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I don't think you really require to observe it while it happens. You believe other things based on what people report as well. Reports of those men and women who had those experiences should be enough, right?
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The fact that the majority of red pillers not only downplay but outright deny that women have not become delusional in their standards or that there isn't a serious issue in dating is a huge red flag and tells you they are not interested in an honest debate. You see the dialogue on here, it’s always the same. No matter how abundant the evidence and statistics or how easily observable these points are, you see the same tired gaslighting responses: simp, whiteknight, cuckold self-reported data lol…
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The higher testosterone you have the more likely you are to not be celibate, have more sexual partners, and cheat more. The same rules apply to women with higher testosterone levels. Is that what the studies say, or is that how you want it to be? Because: "The difference in sexual partner count by testosterone is driven almost entirely by men in the first quartile. This is a trend that we will see replicated later in research on testosterone and physical strength. When we do see differences with…
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Doesn't matter if something exists "in nature" or not. As i said "there is no difference between naturally happy and artificially happy".
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It's fine as long as their actions don't intend to harm someone, sure.
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I explained that I work in a boring job in finance in an office, when I said how much I make I could see her face change. I mean I don't honestly expect a woman like that to be super interested in me. But the way it seemed like my dollar value mattered was insane. Why would you say about yourself that you work a "boring job" and then be surprised when she also thinks you must be boring and loses interest? Were you interested in her? It doesn't come off as you being into her and wanting to deepen…
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It's incredibly how you are not failing to own yourself with every further response you give, in ways i couldn't have dreamt to insult you with. I don't need to do anything here. You are fucking yourself over. Hard to imagine who you will respond to this in an even more selfdeprecating way.
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Seems correct, since you are getting fucked in this conversation.
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Are you saying i was lieing about not being aware that she was asleep and that not even having crossed my mind as a possibility?
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It's also easy when you are privileged in the mating arena. If i was undesirable and rejected by most people due to prejudices or just plain old requirements i am not meeting, i would also argue that people should not be "that shallow" or "racist" or whatever. I can easily respect people's choices to reject me, because i am still overall desired by enough people so i can live comfortably. Of course it's unrealistic for people in different situations to have the same norms. I just have these norm…
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So you are not black pilled. If the success of your mating efforts is more determined by having children or not than by your physical looks, you are not black pilled.
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So you are not black pilled. If the success of your mating efforts is more determined by having children or not than by your physical looks, you are not black pilled.
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The healed rapist. you are too fucking stupid to make your point understandable. If there is something that i didn't get in the first place. Looks like you just got stuck in hating on someone who made an honest mistake and now it turned on your being the idiot and morally bad person. I see how you need to resort to namecalling and deflection.
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Shhh, little girl, there was no talk about ongoing consent 21 years ago. I did go with the time since then and make sure there is ongoing consent. Go be an angry feminist that nobody wants to be around somewhere else.
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No you called it an absurd scenario and didn't believe it happened this way. Invalidating her experience and her trauma. good job being part of the problem.
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Sex was consensual before she fell asleep and as i said, i didn't notice she fell asleep. Maybe you shouldn't be taking part in conversations if you can't follow a simple story.
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The only thing that can be found in feminist theory is deliberate obscurantism (aka word salad) fueled by nepotism and openly admitted hate of men. If you want to be this incincere, you are not better than feminist. But that was obvious from the start. There is no openness to change your views. Didn't you just say that proof of that is in feminist theory? I don't understand what you are trying to say. You should read that again. There is a male power imbalance, but it's not due to sexism and it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:51 PM
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Anmd you will find that proof in the feminist theory. I don't think there is a way to argue out of men being in the prime positions of power. THis part of the patriarchy claim has enough evidence. What i don't see evidence for, is that gender pay gap, leadership position, division of unpaid work, is due to a patriarchal oppression/sexism. THere is no evidence, that the gender pay gap is due to sexism, as opposed to freely made life choices/biology and our evolutionary past. As i said, someone ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:38 AM
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the word lost it's meaning. Next thing we hear is micro-dehumanization.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:26 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:02 PM
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Clearly would imply you can prove it? do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:59 PM
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tell me, why would your self reported, self participated data be more valuable than that of the study you don't accept?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:59 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:26 AM
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The common man IS in a relationship and has regular sex and is happy with that. Amount of sex partners is mostly predicted by personality, not looks. The reason some men go unfucked is that women don't need to be married to them and even in the marriages, they cannot be forced to have sex. I regard that as a win. It's not hard to have a girlfriend and to have sex with her. It's not TVM who take those women from those men. It's those men not meeting the lowest bar of being a fucking net positive …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:58 AM
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Your comment is self participated self reported biased perception. It's pretty irrelavant to the discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:37 AM
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Yes, of course it's falsifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:33 AM
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They are a thing but they were never a mainstream mass market thing. I don't know anyone who ever was on a speed dating event, but everyone was on an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:32 AM
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NOT. THE. SAME. GROUP. OF. PEOPLE. MEN. ARE. NOT. A. MONOLITH.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:30 AM
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There are also tons (what kind of measurement is that even?) of tall guys who don't get anything, for every one that has a hot girlfriend. <image> THere is a weak correlation between sexual partner count and body height in men. The correlation between having a girlfriend and body height is likely weak or non-existent as well. Hot women are most likely together with hot men. Getting a hot girlfriend when you are not hot is not to be expected. If you want to argue, that the bottom 1% in attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:17 PM
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But it's not a discussion, it's a debate. Which requires us to argue against your point. If you want to discuss the implications of girls not being disadvantaged in education anymore, that would be another kind of thread. I did tell you my definition of patriarchy: "Patriarchy refers to a system of male dominance that can manifest in various forms, including but not limited to political, social, and economic power."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:09 PM
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But this is a debate, sir. Stating an factual truth is not a debate. You need to make a point that we can content. You seem to be a MRA and therefore i assume, that you use that statistic to point out something that is in need of correction: helping boys to get to at least same level as girls on education. Do i assume wrongly? Other than that, your title implies, that your statistics are used to claim, that if boys do worse than girls, there can't be a patriarchy. To which i said, that this is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:40 PM
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The midget with the hot girlfriend also gets rejected by disabled women. You seem to think that when someone has an average desirability level that is above that of someone else, that the one below should have to accept them as a partner. People date on their desirability level, or within their league, but most people within their league still reject each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:30 PM
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If you are insecure, every woman is an alpha widow, because you think so lowly of yourself, that of course, at least one of her past partners or ONS must have been so much better than you. Also, every man she comes across on a daily basis is better than you, and it's only a question of time and loyalty, when she will leave you. That's why all the insecure guys here can't stop analyzing the probability of divorce or infidelity, because they are absolutely sure that if there exists even a slight c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:09 PM
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What is your point though? A sign that there is no patriarchy? Patriarchy was never about all men having advantages over all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:57 PM
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Its scientifically proven that men are most attracted to women in their early 20s (even younger than that if they had the option). So this makes it apparent that they're not going to be attracted to their partners as time goes on. That does not follow logically. Just because one age is the most attractive, doesn't mean other ages are not attractive. You are not looking at the relevant science to answer the question You would need to look at the science that investigates if men are attracted to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:15 PM
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I wouldn't have thought you to be a woke gender feminist. Where does your fight for equality come from? Men and women, boys and girls, are different. Why do you want to have them have the same outcomes in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:15 AM
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post pardon https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/postpartum-depression/symptoms-causes/syc-20376617 Also, you are a black pilled man, yet you claim how kids are a major factor in desirability on the dating market. Shouldn't physical attractiveness be the main determining factor, and money, social status, mental health, kids etc be basically irrelevant? Where did your genetic determinism go to?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:12 AM
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You follow the lawas of the state you belong to. Not because you want to, but because your leaders made sure you are punished if you don't follow their laws. Try not brining your passport to an international travel and tell them how you don't belong to any state. See how well your leaders tolerate your antics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:01 AM
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We don't do anything about it. Men will always be overrepresented as physical violence perpetrators. That is biology and personality. We already do enough in general to bring down overall violence, but men will always be overrepresented. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:58 AM
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THat is mental gymnastics. The documents you use state that you are a belonging to a state with it's respective leaders. You are just a delusional conspiracy theorist who thinks he lives "off gird" while paying his taxes and being a good boy with a passport. You follow the laws your leaders told you to follow, and if you don't, your leaders and state will punish you for that and you can do nothing about that. You are not following yourself, you follow what you have been told to do. Like everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 08:34 AM
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So if one is the provider, the other should also be the provider, or else there's something wrong? That doesn't work. Asymmetries are fine for a specific issue. If one provides, the other can take care of another issue to get to some kind of balance. You can visit her parents, but she can not do the same with your parents. That is not in conflict with having a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 08:24 AM
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How do you travel outside the country that you live in if you don't belong to a state and don't use it's paperwork to cross borders?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 08:21 AM
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The quote you shared only talks about height. So the obvious first choice answer would be: face and body look more attractive. Regarding your title, where "look like him" is added, the obvious first choice is personality as the difference. Standards are the close second. It's easy to have success when you date down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:20 PM
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Because players play women. Which includes that those women don't realize the players are players. Mostly not even after they have been dumped. There is absolutely no need to let a woman know what just happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:14 PM
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Why don't incels not simply become criminals or drug dealers then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:47 PM
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Top 1% men is 1 in 100. I see them every week.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:16 PM
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You are responsible for your own sex life. If you want porn sex, pick a partner who agrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:55 PM
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Evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:50 PM
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So you want people to take you seriously while you proclaim you don't belong to a state and have nobody leading you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:44 PM
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Relationships are not tit for tat. It's no obvious that if we see her parents, that we also see my parents. She can very well hate my parents and not want to visit them. Stop assuming things and talk about it openly. Expecting that partners are mind readers is bad communication. A covert contract is one that the other doesn't know about and you just expect them to agree to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:43 PM
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You can love someone and be attracted to their person without finding them physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:07 AM
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Speak for yourself. So you don't belong to a state that is lead by state leaders who lead YOU? It's interesting how you think your opinion matters to me It clearly does, or you wouldn't engage with it. Why would I care what you think? Because it affects you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:06 AM
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But it's the other way round. Men and women also are equally lonely and sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:36 AM
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WHy have you been socially excluded and why didn't you address the reasons first, before taking other measurements?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:34 AM
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I think the point was, that women simultaneously want that their partners don't look at those women. We are just proud of their bodies and show them some self-love support, give them the "better treatment from society" that they so deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:28 AM
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You think a woman who dresses oversexualized has a problem with her boyfriend playing videogames with oversexualized female characters?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:16 AM
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I have read that many women don't find there husbands particulary attractive. Unattractive people marry unattractive people. They are unattractive, not blind. Of course they don't find their partners physically attractive. THe subjective part of physical attractiveness isn't large enough to completely negate that you objectively see the physically unattractive traits in your partner. That doesn't necessarily keep them from having lots of sex with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:15 AM
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You do realize that the amount of posts with a certain role/personality say nothing about what women are excited about, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:07 AM
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How is a hidden contract a good thing? Do you want to be in a contract that you don't know about but if you break the conditions that you know nothing about, you will face consequences that you don't want to face?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:53 AM
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Young men ARE dating young hot women. Fat women ARE dating men. Nobody fucking cares about potential in a 20yo. The relationships are not going to last anyway. Fat men are dating fat women, sometimes even slim men. We don't get to pick ideal partners, we get to pick on our mate value level.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:34 AM
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But I think a lot of people in general (men and women) need to realize that it’s not enough to be a nice guy, to succeed in a relationship, you need to be a good guy, and you need to approach things in good faith But the men who argue from a niceguy standpoint argue that it's actually not required at all to be nice or good to have casual sex and be in a relationship. To the contrary, being a niceguy seems to be a negative, even being a good guy does get you nowhere with women. It's because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:27 AM
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So you don't try to look your best for your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:10 AM
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I had to break up with a guy because he purposely make me jealous by mentioning other women to me. Seems like you are just very insecure and fear that the moment competition comes up, you will lose the competition and be broken up with. You escape this fear by breaking up yourself or looking for men who are unable to compete for women and you are their only option. It's a toxic way to cope with your fears and insecurity. In your case, you might prefer to get a worse partner than you could get, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:09 AM
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the equivalent of this would be an average guy barging into a club, picking out the hottest bombshell on the dance floor, approaching her and upon rejection start philosophizing how much of a "shallow whore she is" for failing to see past his looks That is exactly what happens. Women's attractiveness formula is more deep than men's, regarding the weight that attractiveness (the major shallow component) has. Of course, both sexes put attractiveness as number 1 priority on average. Both sexes try …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:01 AM
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Again, if someone has intelligence they don't need to be led That is not true. We are all being led, at different stages of organization. Leadership distribution is not about intelligence. Stop being an idiot and leave intelligence out of it. Also, looking at your insane conspiracy theory posts, it's absolutely clear who lacks the intelligence to understand simple concepts here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:56 AM
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you probably should google what "the contract is void" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:54 AM
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The sociosexuality scale is really not between "degenerate" and "prude". I don't think the scale is know well enough by people for them to accurately place themselves on it, with only those two words and spectrum endpoints. I think the placement on this spectrum is the major cause of all of the "virgin vs promiscuous" women debates and if people realized that people are just different in that aspect, there would be less fighting over what is "right". Also, some men would realize that women who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:51 AM
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Because the ideal person is better than you. You ideal perso is not just as good as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:24 PM
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Yes, but if you pick someone, they are your ideal partner. An ideal partner is better than yourself. Which in turn means, that the picked partner would get a partner that is below him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:03 PM
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You didn't understand her comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:01 PM
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You don't get how she plays on common manosphere comments regarding women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:01 PM
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That is not what the state is concerned with though. If the child is his, is for him to make sure before signing the contract. The contract cannot be void, because it doesn't include: "this is your biological child".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:59 PM
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Why do you make the cut at physical violence? What is the difference betwen "That’s in our nature to break down when our world falls apart, and it’s completely normal." And use physical violence, vs emotional violence, vs verbal violence, vs packing up and leaving, etc. "Her lies created the mess." - why does "the mess" not include physical violence but everything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:55 PM
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Expecting manipulation is still manipulation. You would need to find an actual argument for why women are not manipulated in their decision to date the man by the man paying. Not minding being dependent is still being manipulated by the person you depend on. You have no arguments. Not minding being manipulated is still being manipulated. because they have no intelligence to lead themselves https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_intelligence "There is no statistically significant differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:39 PM
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Under the following premises: -If you’re picked, it might take a long time or may not happen at all. But you have your sanity and mental health intact. How would that be a premise? This is only how it works for the picker-side, not the picked-side. The much more interesting aspect is: if you are picked by a picky partner, then the partner is probably below you in desirability, because you are that perfect for them. If you are settled for, your partner is more desirable than you. I'd rather be se…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:32 PM
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You tell us how many men are like this. MANY?? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:12 PM
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You have it the wrong way. Nothing of that is an example of a manipulatd man but a manipulated woman. Men get what they want by manipulating women with paying for dates. A prostitute is a business exchange. Paying for the dinner is manipulation. Same with diamond engagement rings and doing all the stuff men know manipulates women into regarding them as marriage material. Providing for a stay at home mom is a position of power, as she is dependent. Leading a person IS manipulating them into doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:07 PM
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Is it my fault that I lust after a 16 yo. No, the child is a seductress tempting me. It's neither one's fault, it's biology. Nobody chooses who they are attracted to. Calling someone a seductress is a defensive mechanism to conform to societal norms of not being "allowed" to find 16 yo sexually attractive. The cam models do manipulate their audience. Women have immense power over men with how lust works in men. They very much exploit that power for their own interests. Some men call women seduct…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:00 AM
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You can take my silence on the topic as still waiting for you to engage with my arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:44 AM
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You think not advertising junk food and putting candy on top shelves is going to solve this? It's the parents who give candy to thei children and buy junk food, because they eat that themselves. You think 70% overweight/obese population is feeding their kids the stuff that doesn't make them overweight/obese as well? What is with your freedoms? YOu want the freedom to feed your kid the worst shit imaginabel? you want the freedom to eat that yourself, so your kids learn from you and imitate your b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:43 AM
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What is a crime against children?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:56 PM
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It's not rare to have a gf whne oyu miss these traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:52 PM
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I bet if you drag your chodey self to the bar and open 10 off girls your worldview will be crushed. Dude, you got laid twice with pua? I got laid twice YESTERDAY with blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:47 PM
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I said i have an IQ of 130, which is ~97.5th percentile. That is not genius level and i never claimed to be a genius. I am not playing games with you. You either tell me where i ignored something because i goes against my preconceived notions. What are those notions and what did i ignore?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:51 PM
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Of course they would not advocate for you to get hired, because the goal is to get less people like you hired. How can you hold that against them? It's the overarching goal for more equality/equity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:49 PM
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i don't think the men you talk about are in a position that anyone wants to make them care about women. We are fine with those men being pushed further away. They are already outside of society. Women don't need to be cared for. Women are doing fine now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:45 PM
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I am not a genius. Please, show me what you mean exactly and we can talk about it. The more you weasle around, the more it looks like you don't actually have anything behind your accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:39 PM
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No chance you are a biologist. I find that impossible to believe. Here we go again. Me telling you that you are wrong about the things you believe are impossible. Do you notice the pattern? You are closeminded and possibly afraid of things existing outside your value system. You called yourself insecure and jealous. Most people are just trying to get through the day and enjoy what free time they have . Preferably with a faithful monogamous companion. You are the one putting up walls against life…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:36 PM
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Don't engage in the same line of argument, and threaten him with "mentally ill women who will be the only ones being up for his shit". Let him be the bad boy, if he really thinks this will get him what he wants. Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't. But he should put his money where his mouth is, instead of doing this fucking weak ass manipulation attempt towards "women on the internet". He doesn't even have the guts to tell it to women in his actual real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:34 PM
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What did i ignore that goes against my preconceived notions? If i made a mistake, i am the first to apologize and change my views and stance on it. Tell me where i went wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:32 PM
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Of course i believe his story. that doesn't change the fact that he is a crazy outlier and his experiences does not negate the general advice for people who are not extreme outliers. It's like a guy with one leg, claiming he isn't obese, because his BMI is 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:57 PM
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i am still rational and scientific where it applies. Looking for evidence for your results in your life history and comments IS rational and scientific. I am upper percentiles in intelligence. How is that inane crap? I saw your poll. What do you think does it say about your situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:53 PM
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The dude is a 30-something kissless virgin who gets called the cops on for saying "hi" to women. People in other subs, sharing his fate, tell him that he is the isssue and should go to therapy. Even in support groups, targeted at his issues, he is the one sticking out. Read his comments/profile. This dude is a far outlier and not a good measuring stick to see how "mentally ill" women are with thier actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:30 PM
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Your posting history
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:29 PM
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So in my estimation, this is the most effective means to keep a girl emotionally invested in you. Throw her a few breadcrumbs now and then, then treat her like a second option. Show her she is below you and she will come back. My only issue with the above is I hate to do it. It's not in my nature but it seems to be the best way of acting in the modern dating scene This is every other niceguy thread in essence. " I was told women want nice guys, but i don't get women, being a niceguy. i observe w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:26 PM
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My point is: you are the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:15 PM
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So you did all this work to come up with MORE evidence, that there are gender biases? What is your goal here? It is already well established that these biases exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:06 PM
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Population averages say nothing about the individual. And you only care about the individual, because you are not dating the population average. Making up percentages with no explanation for them is peak manosphere bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:21 AM
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Denying reality and biology isn’t going to help you. I am a biologist and that is the last thing i am denying. I say that we are not slaves to our evolutionary instincts. We can act in a way that goes against them. Don’t call people who don’t enjoy being a cuckold insecure or jealous. You called yourself insecure and jealous, and that is exactly what you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:15 AM
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I know people who won the lottery, does that mean you can use playing the lottery as financial strategy? Nope. This is not the point. The point is: it is not a REQUIREMENT to get into a relationship to be this or that. You don't claim that you are unlucky, you claim that you can't get a gf because of XYZ
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:13 AM
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I know that book and the issues around it. That was not what i was thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:11 AM
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The DM is always right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:10 AM
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This is just a plain assertion. No, that's from the surveys of the PPD demographic. Just because someone doesn't know redpill, doesn't mean they are bluepilled. So everyone who is successful with women is red pilled, even if they deny it. Oh, that is just what an ideologist would say to keep his worldview intact. Bluepilled is everyone who doesn't fully agree with red pill views. It's all of the people who are NOT-red pilled. Being red pilled is "i believe in what the red pill states". Take Elon…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:08 AM
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It's not about "not all men/women", it's about the inconsistency of accusing a group of the same thing that OP does himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:01 AM
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You are the bigoted one here, claiming that american & canadian women are this or that negative stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:56 AM
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When women do not consider you to be an option, that is a clear sign they are not in your league. Go to places where there are women who match you level of desirability and talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:17 PM
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Maybe try women in your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:15 PM
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If you read DrunkOnRamens profile, you will quickly see he is a crazy outlier. Probably a multi-dimensional issue. Not even sugarbabes want to have anything to do with him. You get the most extreme incels there are on this sub, who claim the generally good advice "is not working, because <my example>".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:13 PM
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How does anyone you approach know you are a mid 30s virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:58 PM
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"i'd rather be alone forever than date a single mom" -guys want to have a word with you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:54 PM
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The amount is irrelevant. Their existence prooves that non of the things they lack are required for a relationship. Now, go on how those relationships are unhapppy and you don't want something like that anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:53 PM
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And some guys here think that swiping daily on apps is "being active".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:52 PM
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What seems to be the real missing X factor between guys who can attract and guys who can’t? Talking to single women, who are in their league, who they already have an at least lukewarm connection to, and not being autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:36 PM
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You just repeated the same stuff over and over, without dealing with my argument. Yes, it has evolved that way. Yes we can still act differently. Just as with caloric dense food. The people who successfully do what you think is "impossible" do exist. I just wanted to make that clear. I can deal with jealousy. If you can't, that's fine, but don't go around saying that people can't deal with jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:26 PM
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WHy would you think that women are perfect arbiters or a partners quality as a long term partner? They are the same as men, and make bad choices. If you want to be the bad guy who gets picked by women who are used to abused and broken homes, go for it. It will be fun. Over the past year, one thing has become clear: the unfortunate truth is that women will always choose an attractive abuser over a respectful, unattractive man. Most men are not attractive abusers. Most men are in relationships wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:15 PM
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How do you know all this? Noticing things about myself that seem to be different from the norm, then doing research and applying psychometric tests to get results. I can then see where i rank at in the distribution within the population. I am interested in personality and have lots of psychologists and psychiatrists as friends. Yeah, how do you know it's "they feel safe with me" not the halo effect of being percieved trustworthy? I'm telling you that how you look determines the outcome A LOT. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:23 AM
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Why do you value attractiveness in people you're not planning on sleeping with? Because attractive people are pleasant to look at. They make me feel good to be around. The halo effect makes me think more highly of them, so i am drawn to them. I want to be liked by attractive people, so i am supporting, helping, kind, to them, which in turn makes me like them more, makes me want to spend more time with them. Which then makes me think that i must really like them, when i am spending so much time w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:59 AM
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Of course i am an outlier. No question about it. I was countering your statements that you can't imagine this to exist. Definitely, mate guarding and mate retention strategies are there for a reason. But so is over-indulgence on sweet and fatty, high caloric food. So is cheating. So is mate poaching and polygyny. ALl of that evolved and there is a good reason it exists in us and other mammals. BUT, that doesn't mean it's optimal for the current situation/environment (see obesity). And it doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:35 AM
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What specifically is wrong about what i wrote and why? How does it not match red pill/Pua?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:10 AM
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If you think my counter argument was "deny", you are hopelessly lost in your ideology. Nothing i wrote was "deny". What is the actionable advice which works, that red pill has to offer? There clearly arer more red pilled virgins or men with less than 1 sex partner per year in this sub, than blue pilled virgins. So whatever red pill has to offer, is either not actionable, not working, or those incels and foreveralone niceguys just don't value having sex as much as they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:09 AM
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Traditional men want traditional women, modern men want mondern women,, and everything in between also exists. There is no answer to your question, other than "it depends on the man". There are lots of traditional, non-promiscuous women for the traditional men. What the red pillers, of the type you described, are not happy about, is that they are not attractive partners for the women they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:56 AM
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Just because you cannot imagine that, doesn't mean it's not real or doesn't happen. I am okay with my gf going hiking with a male friend. She is okay i am making out with a female friend. I am not into being a cuckold. Does nothing for me. I am in an open relationship. the fact that my gf is having sex with other men is not causing anger, stress, disgust. I can emotionally regulate my thoughts and feelings regarding jealousy and insecurity pretty quickly. It doesn't grow to any noteworthy size t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:51 PM
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That's my point. Woman X is obviously wrong, yet women in general defend this type of behavior. How is woman X clearly wrong? Do you have a line of argument here or is this just a "i say so" type of discussion? Woman X goes to the gym wearing clothes that violate modesty; Woman X turns on the camera in the gym while she works out, framing herself and the men in the gym; Woman X posts the video on the internet and calls the men she framed who looked at her perverts, creepy, etc. What violates mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:41 PM
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We would have less discussions about n counts if people understood sociosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:22 PM
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Your memory is likely wrong. Look up the study you think you found this informatio in, show me the study and quote the part where it says what you keep repeating. Otherwise, i consider this discussion over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:47 PM
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You claim there is something abotu short term vs long term thresholds in the study, while it's not there. It's not too much to ask you where you got that information from. Your Chatgpt summary is clearly lies. The study clearly says that the minimum threshhold goes up for long term. By proxy that means men must be more attractive at minimum for long term. CITE IT! You cannot fuck around with your chatgpt summaries any longer. It's NOT in the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:31 PM
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which country are you from? I am from Germany, living in Germany. In what other areas are you clearly above average as you said? Intellect (~97th percentile) and knowledge, sociosexual unrestrictedness (90th+ percentile),machiavellianism (80th+ percentile), narcissism (~70th percentile), openness for experience, confidence probably, not jealous, above average stoic and with a "resting in himself"-aura (at least that is what people tell me). And something i think is super valuable but i never hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:14 PM
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I AM a research scientist. My life IS studies. They ARE real and not bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:31 PM
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I ask you to tell me which study you mean. I will read it and see if your claims are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:30 PM
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From the study: "If we assume normally distributed PA in population and an absence of the BTA effect, the PA self-assessments for a random general sample should cluster around a theoretical mean of 5.5. However, established mean rating score was 6.43 (SD = 1.70; 26.4% of 7’s, with 67.9% of 6+) for men and 7.18 (SD = 1.56; 31.8% of 8’s, with 84.1% of 6+) for women. Only 3.4% of women and 12.8% of men rated themselves as 4 or less. Both gender means were significantly higher (ps < .001) than a the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 12:10 PM
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The data for the report OP linked is based on n= 500 to 1000 per country. Can you tell me how large the n needs to be to get "accurate" data? Or do you just "feel" what is right and wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:08 AM
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Your "study" is titled "Average Age to Lose Virginity by Country 2024" but the source of the data is "Global Face of Sex 2012 report" made by Durex, the condom manufacturer. Also, for this study, adults of all ages were surveyed, so it's not even about what age people lost their virginity in 2012. from the study: "The minimum sample was composed of 500 respondents per country including people 18 and up to 64 (for a margin of error in each country of approximately 4.3%)" Also, i don't see how ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:29 AM
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I think it was just that women with children are unhappier. Relationships without children seemed to be fine. Do you have the study at hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:53 AM
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There is no thing that all men want. So the question can't be answered for all men. You can ask: what do men want on average, or what do most men want, etc. You can specify regardin what aspect of life: what do men want in love/relationships/family, work/career, personal growth/self actualization, leasure time/hobbies, friendships etc. Why should women care? Because helping men get what they want is a mating advantage for women. If a woman wants to get the highest mate value man possible, she be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:51 AM
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How do men know you slept around?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:45 AM
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You are unchallenged because you require better arguments against your position that oyu require FOR your position. That is the problem here. You believe without evidence. But only the things you want to believe. I doubt you would accept any evidence that contradicts what you want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:34 AM
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I am a little below average height (175 cm, avg is 178.9 cm), below average penis size, and with average income. So, by some red pill standards, definitely not a Chad. But in other traits i am way above average. Here a photofeeler rating of a portait shot: https://preview.redd.it/ukm04gst8bsd1.png?width=585&format=png&auto=webp&s=cde2a58fd445ccc6bc3a7576e42e5ed6e625eb64 But that doesn't lead to women throwing themselves at me. I still have to do the stuff, i think other men would also need to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:32 AM
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The study literally shows you that the looks threshold is lower for short term than long term The study doesn't mention short term relationships AT ALL. Make a screenshot of the passage you talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:01 AM
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You should first take a look at what you said: "What I see is that women only want marriage if there’s a financial incentive to it, " My data clearly shows that women also want marriage if there is no financial incentive to it, because they are the breadwinners. The trend is showing a clear signal. Also, you case in India is obviously different. Pointless to discuss reasons for marraige with culutres that different.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:01 AM
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I am a biologist. I have read the selfish gene several times. It's on the bookshelf 3 meters behind me right now. I am reading mating science as a hobby. Daily. Red pill is the idiot's version of mating science, mixed with quackery, grifting and plain ideology. It's the pattern very biased people with low sample size think they observe and cannot really test for validity. It's basically how people tried to understand the world before science. Praxeology: "Rather than relying on empirical observa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:58 AM
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I don't get berated personally. I only get berated online/in most of media, as being part of the labeled group of "men", even "white, heterosexual, cis-men". I really couldn't care less about it. It isn't weird at all. Men at the top don't need to keep others down. They need to give others the impression that they are not powerless. That hey can change something. That they are heard and in charge of "society". It's way safer to let them post about the patriarchy, than to not let them post about …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:44 AM
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When males say that single women are lonely and bitter they are doing projection of their situation being without female partner.[...] They admit this openly with "male loneliness" so why would women tolerate something where they don't come out as winners? Same simply just doesn't apply to women. Men and women feel equally lonely. Your story doesn't add up. <image> Women have nothing to gain by dating men, CMV They overwhelmingly WANT to date men because they do actually get something from it. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:36 AM
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What I see is that women only want marriage if there’s a financial incentive to it, even if they’re deeply in love with a man. Where do you see that? Marriage statistics and attitudes towards finances do not reflect that. <image> In my country You realize that if we leave the standard WEIRD-country context, you need to specify that and make an argument for a differnet cultural setting. What is your country and how does the data look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:06 PM
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And i told you how i perceive things. If you don't accept that as an argument to change your mind, you might want to improve the arguments on your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:05 PM
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Why does it keep existing then?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:03 PM
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Alright. I'll just accept that i am a Chad then and i have no idea how average guys can't do anything to get similar results as i do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:00 PM
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The common modern dating strategy for women is love bombing the man she wants. Where did you get that from?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:16 AM
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1st: we need to keep science out of love. There is nothing mysterious and magical about love. It's all able to be understood scientifically. You may not like that, but that is the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:15 AM
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Change my mind. Dude, with ZERO evidence for your claims, i think it's sufficient to just say "no, nothing you wrote is true".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:11 AM
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You might think that just existing as a Chad is enough to kiss/fuck women. That's not true. You also need to put in certain behavior/action. And you can do that too. Besides i'm training for 8+ years and look like i've just goined a gym a few months ago. And that is due to poor genetics too? Is your pessimistic view of yourself also due to poor genetics? Does the black pill card free you of any responsibility for your life's outcomes? Have you tried telling a woman that you want to take the next…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:58 AM
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Are..are.. you new to this sub and the topic? It has been very well established and supported by evidence and evolutionary theory. There is no debate to be had here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:47 AM
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Title says it all. Women get offended if and when men don't accurately 100% predict what a woman means by her actions. No, they don't. They get offended when you go for the kiss after they have just moved AWAY from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:42 AM
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Okay, what kind of action is happening on the parties you are on and what are the men who get the action doing? You said you are often the life of the party, you are well trained and good in social interactions. You take drugs which facilitates a lot of sexual things. Where in the process of doing what the other guys do, does it turn out differently for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:30 AM
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So, what does it take to get a GF? Did you understand the rules of the game yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:14 AM
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I agree that people who fail at relationships will always feel some personal sense of shame, but whats the point in adding to that? What do you think is the purpose of shame. Why do they feel it themselves and what could possibly be a good outcome of feeling ashamed or being shamed?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:24 AM
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That is not my experience with the parties i have been on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:23 AM
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Your children will almost certainly be mediocre losers who hate you and despise whatever ethical principles you hold as out of touch. I am not pretending that children are important. I am saying that being chosen by a woman is important. Important in the value system of our species. It so core to our biology that we will never get rid of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:20 AM
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I did. Still wrong. Women do not control natural selection. Humans exhibit mutual mate choice. It is not completely possible that women drive the species into the ground. It's also just the same as it was in 2004 with adult virgins. Being 5'8" leads to the same average sex partner count as being 6' https://preview.redd.it/rt6d807rh3sd1.png?width=757&format=png&auto=webp&s=e1b250d4154bee0cd156fef50e01c8fe07bfabfd
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:14 AM
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And do you expect that just "being there" is enough to get some action? Or did you think i was implying that "just being at parties" is enough, as compared to just the first, necessary step?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:09 AM
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The key study by Norman Li et al. (2002) on mate preferences explains the concept of a "minimum threshold" for physical attractiveness. The findings indicate that: Are we talking about this study? https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2002-02942-006 That study is not about short term vs long term relationships mate pickings at all. Basically you got it backwards. You are using lowering of her priorities of looks compared to other attributes as an argument that her minimum to engage in that relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:08 AM
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amazing how you failed to understand and address my comment. Are you sure you have a high IQ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:36 AM
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People don't want top make sex and relationships a social justice movement. The goal is individual freedom, not most equal distribution of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:01 PM
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How does selecting good genetics and resourcefulness and social status possibly lead to "driving the species into the ground"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:57 PM
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I think it is wrong to shame men who don't get selected by women because being unchosen is a consequence of natural selection that we all must accept. What do you think is the reason that shaming exists? We can't get rid of it. It's a necessary tool for our societies. There is nothing shameful about being unchosen by women since that's just how mother nature does her work. Of course it's shameful to be the worst at the most important thing that basically everyone else succeeds at.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:56 PM
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What is an average man to you? Only one who is spot on average on every trait? Those are VERY rare. Where is all that evidence from that you keep narrating. Your personal anecdotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:51 PM
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You mean there doesn't happen anything at the parties, or there doesn't happen anything for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:45 PM
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We all know the OP and his struggle. He posts basically every day with a similar angle on the topic. He has no idea about dating or mating interactions and can only view the topic from his very biased and narrow personal point as an autistic incel who is angry about how mating goes for him. There is nothing to gain from his rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:42 PM
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where do you see evidence, that average men have to pick women twice their weight for romantic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:39 PM
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True, but i doubt that your target audience is still GenZ women. You are meeting other people outside who are used to being outside. My comment was regarding that genZ men are leaving "their" women to older men, who are still used to be outside and approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:34 PM
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Gangestad and Simpson (2000): This study focuses on women’s mate preferences in short-term versus long-term mating contexts, often referred to as strategic pluralism. The researchers found that women tend to prioritize physical attractiveness and markers of genetic fitness (e.g., masculine features) more in short-term sexual relationships. In long-term relationships, women place more emphasis on traits such as resource potential, stability, and emotional commitment. Source: Gangestad, S. W., & S…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:31 PM
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Where do you see the evidence, that modern sexuality is destroyed or is getting destroyed? Also, you should watch more porn. You have a very limited view on what people see in porn and a very outdated view of what watching something does to what you will do. We had the ego shooters lead to school shootings debate years ago and it turned out not to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:27 PM
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YOur dating advice comes from a place of ignorant personal struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 11:28 AM
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A lot of PUA/Redpill concepts are simply how codified tenets of how men who are successful with women behave. A lot of it is the unpleasant truth. An unpleasant truth for red pillers is, that 70% of men are in relationships currently and red pill claims only 5, 10 or 20% of men (consensus my ass) are getting female attention. An unpleasant truth for red pillers is, that they base their whole "knowledge" on a few statements of men who have reason to lie for status within their online community an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 10:55 AM
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...also many high IQ people tend to have personality disorders such as autism Statements like these are worthless. Autism is not a personality disorder, and "many people tend" is not making any sense. Either "high iq people tend to have autism (correlation)", or "many high iq people have autism (percentage or absolute number?)" where you also need to define what "many" is, because it could be 30% or 50000. What do you want to say and what are your sources? Because your on a completely different …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 10:37 AM
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Make all men gay
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 10:21 AM
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A problem for genZ men. A blessing for genY men. It's like fishing in a barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 10:03 AM
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The reasoning is backwards: there are less than 50% women in the top positions, and our ideology tells us, this can only be the reason because men are keeping women from being there: glass ceiling. Any other explanation, other than the opppressor-oppressed dynamic and unthinkable. Look at the gender equality paradox in sociology. The ideologist don't have an answer and rather than dropping their ideology, they make up absurd nonsense for why women in the most egalitarian countries still pick tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:59 AM
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Nice try, making women have sex with men early on, for "their own benefit" :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:53 AM
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Studies are red pill. Studies say: women have higher standards for physical attractiveness for casual sex partners than for romantic relationship partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:50 AM
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That is definitely not the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:49 AM
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That is your fault though. Keep to the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:48 AM
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And you want to argue they marry them for stability reasons, because their own high income doesn't give them a stable financial situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:44 AM
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yeah, SOME. Pick one that doesnt
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:43 AM
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Everyone has to pick women below their own relationship value if they want to have lots of casual sex. For a relationship though, he can pick a woman that is similar to him
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:33 AM
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So you start a debate about a topic with "this is a fact". Is this part of a mental illness you are dealing with? Seeing the current trends regarding hypergamy The current trends regarding hypergamy are that hypergamy is decreasing in the West. This is a fact. , dating a guy having a "mental illness" always be regarded as dating downwards by most women. No, it cannot be regarded as dating downward. It can only be regarded as dating sub-optimal. But then again, everyone has a limit of how high th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 07:49 AM
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You should have asked them about platonic dining. And no, love doesn't need a ring. Culture and long term future planning can be the reasons people "need" a ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:31 AM
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Just meet women without flaunting money or rich lifestyle. Then you will see if it's really the money or other factors that you were unaware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:17 AM
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And BE AT PARTIES AND BARS. "Most of the incels here" don't get invited to parties and say "i don't like loud music and bars". They are still at the step of "where can i meet women" and "it's not okay to approach a woman anywhere so how do i get to talk to women?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:06 AM
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What does this mean? Women raise their visual standards for LTRs and they will lower their visual standards for hookups. Stop listening to what people say, whether they are blue pilled or red pilled. The studies have the answer and the study data is the red pill. That is the opposite of the red pill claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:01 AM
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That is no longer needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:59 AM
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They do have money and stability on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:58 AM
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If you wanted to step out I don’t see how the relationship was all that valuable in the first place. That is where your whole argument falls. Cheaters do not necessarily cheat because there was something wrong. It could be the best relationship in the world for them and they still want to fuck another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:21 AM
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The child is not yours and i will keep it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:19 AM
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YOU HAVE NO DATA AT ALL
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:16 AM
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I dealt with all your arguments. It's not AI arguing with AI. What you don't seem to get is, that i know what i want the AI to write. The AI doesn't have an opinion that is different from mine. I tell it what to write. It's just a time saver. You are not dealing with the AIs arguments, you are dealing with mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:15 AM
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I think we need ages at this point of the anecdotal evidence trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:14 AM
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I think you are just unhappy that you can't argue with the AI generated response and now look for a way to discredit it. deal with the argument or gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:48 PM
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Why "should have"? Why do you want to tell others where to sleep? Nobody is interested in how you sleep. People already find the arrangements that best suit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:47 PM
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Of course not. You're missing my point which is -- why would anyone waste their time reading some regurgitated crap from an AI on a discusson board made for humans to discuss things? Because it's not crap. It's a precise explanation of sometthing i could have done similarly but not as fast and not as complete. it's an improvement on my own way of explaining it. It helps understand a topic, where the read would maybe not agree with it, if i explained it in a shorter way, because i didn't want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:39 PM
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You have no data at all. Bring some not-outdate data and we can talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:37 PM
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Why worthless? If you look for something that will guarantee you attraction from another person, you will not succeed. There is only average increases in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:36 PM
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How? They were not looking for a relationship, or were looking for a relationship on the side. YOu can have casual sex AND look for a committed relationship at the same time. Fucking strangers doesn't take up all your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:34 PM
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I like to deal with the current reality that is evidence based. We might not come together in this discussion, as you want to believe what suits your worldview and disregard evidence based on nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:15 AM
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You are repeating what i said. Do you even check what the AI generates? You are agreeing with me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:37 AM
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https://preview.redd.it/kd8i6zw3t4rd1.png?width=1298&format=png&auto=webp&s=84681b827d48fe0788099d3fcce8db6da4ca0b98 AfD voters are a minority anyway, but women are not too far behind men. I wouldn't call that a huge difference between every 4th woman vs every 3rd man. Again, how do you know why people vote for the AfD?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:35 AM
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Please don't format it in that way. Other than that, my argument is, that the "cultural shift" is not happening to the degree that men think it is. Men think it's not socially accepted to approach women here and there, but it IS. Going from one personal experience to others is exactly this bias i am talking about. You think you are clever by doing an AI response, but fail to see how i already addressed all of this with my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:30 AM
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Their votes are just a big fuck you to the establishment. How do you know that? The genZ AfD voting women i have met couldn't stop mentioning how "Ausländer" are the reason for her not being able to afford a flat in the city, and for having a bad time in the clubs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:02 AM
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The AI is just typing my thoughts and opinions out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:44 AM
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Because it is AI. Why would i spend the time explaining the issue people have with cognitive biases around rare negative events, when i can be done with it in 10 seconds and get to another thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:24 AM
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And a lot of women also stupidly moan like mad after 90 seconds. Just like we laugh at jokes that are not that funny for social cohesion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:10 AM
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How is the AfD helping your generation get a girlfriend, a job or an apartment?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:46 AM
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Nobody has someone who is everything they want in a partner. That doesn't keep people from being in relationships and being happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:43 AM
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It's quite a lot of work to do an observation like OP lined out. The cost-benefit assessment for the woman will lead to her not keeping up with this regime when she has had a string of "nothing suspicious" weeks. It's pretty much what people high in neuroticism do. It's exhausting, it's VERY negative for the relationship satisfaction of both partners. Ultimately, it leads to breakup, because nobody wants to constantly be under suspicious or accusation of cheating. A relationship with dynamics li…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:42 AM
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pumping and dumping is not taking away from the pool of relationship candidates. Those are single women who want to have no strings attached casual sex. They are not on the market for a relationship in that moment. But let me phrase that argument in another way: What about all the genz men who can't have a relationship, because the women in their age bracket are in relationships with older men, and the older women don't like younger men or are unattractive to those men? That is a real issue and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:36 AM
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Men not approaching women because they fear being labeled a creep/laughed at/sexual assault accused/cops called/etc. is similar to women choosing the bear. People's irrational fear of very unlikely events stems from several psychological and cognitive biases that distort risk perception: Availability Heuristic: People judge the probability of events based on how easily they can recall similar events. Highly publicized, dramatic events—like plane crashes, terrorist attacks, or shark attacks—are m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:29 AM
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"from being cheated on and not able to expose it".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:47 PM
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Exactly, now what? You don't have a gotcha. If you need your peace of mind surveillance, you can have it. Doesn't protect you from being cheated on. And doesn't protect your paternity frauding.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:41 PM
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You do not have the slightest ideas about how these studies are done, right? It's absolutely clear for everyone involved, that surveys are anonymous. No names. And guess who the most avid afd voters are, yeah its gen Z. You can look up the stats on that as they are actually Recent. What do you have to say to that one? That is of course true. In Popular Culture, the frustration we experience due to the phenomenon caused by the illusion of choice outlined above, is blamed on migrants. How is the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:39 PM
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And i have real life examples of men who trusted their wives and got paternity frauded. Now what? You concede your points?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:32 PM
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Self Reports Studies are acceptable if they are collected under ANONYMOUS conditions. Where the subjects are also convinced they are anonymous. so that is about all of them. There a no non-anonymous studies on relationship status or dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:00 PM
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And none of those things would be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:48 PM
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read about sociosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:29 PM
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I literally quoted from the bottom half of the main text. Or did you not read that far?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:24 PM
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I think it's because these socially isolated people never socialize with others after the forced interactions in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:23 PM
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I mean, lets assume its the small sample size ok. Complaints like these come...often in all three directions. Rent, Jobs, Dating....If everyone just so happens to complain of the same thing...its indicative of a trend. You mean self reports? Yeah.... No I know, and we have talked about it. I am asking you to explain it away. Theres a reason my generation gen Z relies on phonies like Andrew Tate for answers more and more. You mean self reports? Yeah.... Like I guarantee, most married dudes today,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:22 PM
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as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. She can do that whenever. You think i am so stupid to leave a trace of cheating on my phone? Well, its only fair that she has insurance that you a good family man and not a manipulative piece of shit. Afterall, if you desperately need a peace of mind, so should she. Sure, that is exactly the way i am manipulative. This "insurance" is all planned out. Her piece of mind is a clever fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:04 PM
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What makes you say its by choice? The studies on the topic. Those stats are what was UNTIL now. I dont see it as true. So you reject all studies because they are not up to date for your liking, and your views of how reality is, are based on your biased perception from your biased point of view on a very small sample size. And you want me to rather believe what you say than what is the trend from previous years? I used to study Law, which had plenty of women in it. And still the majority of the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:54 AM
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No, because humiliation in this way is not a typical female kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:49 AM
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Well, that surely has to do with the fact that a man needs to do pretty well to even become single father.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:47 AM
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You mean the part about polygamy, that leaves millions of men without a wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:43 AM
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Why don't you think about a humiliation kink?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:42 AM
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I think the husband has a kink regarding this. All fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:42 AM
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there is a large number of women who are single and use or have used dating apps pretty extensively. 70% of women are currently in relationships. Slightly more in their 30s, slightly less in their 20s. Half of the singles do want to be single currently. the other half is looking for a partner. Of the part that is looking, most will find a partner within the near future. A tiny fraction of the ones who look for a partner will stay single due to "nobody being good enough". It's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:36 AM
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Macedonian immigrant. I was thinking about someone else. My error. Most of people in my generation are single. By choice. It has nothing to do with being unnatractive but with not being some perfect ideal. Then relationships would only happen for the perfect ideal people. Which is objectively not true. Relationships are distributed pretty evenly along the attractiveness spectrum. Normal looking people ARE in relationships. They are also NOT in relationships, just like super attractive and super …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:33 AM
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why don't you have an illusion of choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:17 AM
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You know there are relationship forms other than marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:16 AM
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Women on dating apps who are perpetually single due to an illusion of choice are an irrelevant minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:11 AM
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My girlfriend is genZ (albeit right on the border) and the women i date from online dating are exclusively genZ. My dating experience IS with genZ. I have been an ugly computer science nerd who couldn't be attractive to women if his life depended on it. It was the same 2004 as it is 2024. It was "tough" for me back then as it is tough for you now. It's not about the generation, it's about you being unattractive to the women you are interested in. Also, as a poor (student), polish immigrant to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:06 AM
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I would refrain from using any stats that haven't been made at least from 2025. Sure, if you want to talk about what happens currently with certainty, you need to wait two years. But we have past stats and trends and we have reason or no reason to believe that something fundamentally changed about dating. Most of Gen Z is single. I would refrain from using any stats that haven't been made at least from 2025. Like I'm starting to understand why they keep saying men are obsessed with us. I don't u…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:44 AM
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I really do not care what feminists shame. They are not my peer group. They have no relevance for my life. I don't think feminists are your peer group. So why do you care what hey think about your lifestyle?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:15 AM
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You don't need consistency. Women are not men. Why would they be shamed for the same things? Also women ARE shamed for having kids late. Just not by feminist online reddit social circles. Go out and touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:36 AM
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"Should not be shamed". Please, let people shame whatever they want. If you go against social norms, shaming happens. That is just how it goes. Shaming has it's place and use. If you want to break social norms, you need to be able to deal with the consequences. If you don't want to get shamed, keep to social circles that have norms that match your lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:33 AM
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and unbothered by societal judgment. You are the opposite of unbothered by societal judgment if you adapt what you say to what is received well by society. Also, how does this societal judgment look like for you exactly? And i am not talking about some anonymous online debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:17 AM
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Men of reddit, why is is so hard for you to accept the fact that you cannot be loved for how you want to be unlike women? But you just showed a way: "If you refuse to pay for any dates and wants that pure emotional love you could only insist 50/50 dates only from women. Why just not do it?" Make sure money is not a reason you are loved by keeping money out of the relationship/courting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:05 AM
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I think it would be more interesting to ask how the men would react.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:59 AM
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<image> 5'5" is 165cm and the way you described the guy makes him above average attractive for his height class. If he has the personality and lifetsyle for it, there is no reason to not have lots of sexual partners and girlfriends, just like his taller mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:26 AM
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Look at all the 'Just found out my bf is a virgin!!!?' posts on reddit and the comments will be riddled with condescension like 'aww what a cutie pie late bloomer hehe make sure you go slow and give him lots of cuddles and he will have the best 5 seconds of his life hehe' How could a virgin not feel even worse about their situation after reading shit like that? https://np.reddit.com/r/dating/comments/1e2z3jg/my_boyfriend_is_a_virgin/ https://np.reddit.com/r/dating/comments/z4zfqn/just_found_out_…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:17 AM
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Do you have any backing evidence for that or is that just a trust me bro, that is my anecdotal experience with the few women i had this kind of insight with in my life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:01 AM
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60%+ of women aged 18-29 are in committed relationships, 70%+ of women 30-40yo are in committed relationships. They are not looking for "some ethereal perfect fit". They have found a fit that is from the "you see who you like, and who likes you back. Those are your ACTUAL options to pick from" category. It's the single people, and to some degree the casually dating people, who could only fall in the category of looking "for the "better option" out there, which will never come.". And those are mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:43 AM
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What are your thoughts? I think you should stop daydreaming and update your views on social interactions, because it looks like you are stuck in highschool.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:58 PM
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The bar for men is way to high! women should lower their standards. women lower their standards and settle for a guy who wouldn't have met their previous standards - But I don't want to be settled for!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:49 PM
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Not for you though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:40 PM
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FWIW, i live near NYC and i'm totally convinced this is why there's an insane number of lonely single women who will never get married, the men are SOFT as hell and just aren't manly at all. What is that insane number of lonely single women? What is your source? What is the sex ratio of men to women in that bracket?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:39 PM
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They don't. Holy fuck. Every woman would have a body count of 100 if they always had visceral attraction and lust for Chads. The Chads are NOT the limiting factor here. It's the women, NOT sleeping with the Chads, because there isn't visceral lusting. If women want to have sex with a guy, they can pretty much. So if they do not have sex with the Chads all the time, it's a good indicator that there isn't this strong urge to fuck them,
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:15 PM
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What you want is irrelvant. What you can get is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:12 PM
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What if we had XR headsets with an AI wingman attached to it that could tell you what to say to women to get them. Why would an AI wingman know what to say to get that woman that is sitting in front of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:11 PM
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THis might be interesting to you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSSkDos2hzo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:09 PM
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Yes, for the specific situations. For speed dating. You can't generalize onto other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:31 PM
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I never thought someone ghosted me because sex was bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:35 AM
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From western Europe, together for 4 years, but it has been the same with prior relationships, no matter the duration: we split expenses evenly or take turns, or just pay for our own expenses separately, or treat each other to things/events/food, so in the end, it's pretty equal, without actively keeping book. It FEELS equal. This goes for everything that we do together. Vacations, dates, random nights out, daily expenses, etc. I was never the only one paying for dates, not even the first few tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:24 AM
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of couse you don't. You would't cite the study if you understood the limitations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:50 AM
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If she takes it as an accusation she can react to it in any way she wants. If she breaks up, that is on her, not on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:50 AM
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You might rethink how think about who "SHOULD" accept whom. Just because someone is a 7 doesn't mean they are attractive to a 2 or they are the type of person a 2 would want to spend time with. A 7 can be an autistic idiot and be laughed at and rejected for that. You imply that a 2 should be grateful that a 7 approached them. You can absolutely reject a 7 as a 2 and it has nothign to do with your own valuation of yourself. That might be a reasoning on your end, that she could only reject a 7 if …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:49 AM
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I do not care what you or others classify as body shaming. You are not going to convince someone to change their behavior because it is hypocritical. That is the gotcha all the incels think they can play out to get sex from women, but it's not going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:17 PM
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You should just do what you want and not ask for permission like a dirty niceguy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:02 PM
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Dude, if you have a micropenis, women do have a point about the sex not being as good. Your insecurity would be justified. I don't think anyone disputes, that being at the lowest end of the spectrum is a shit place to be. But penis insecurity happens for average dudes or even above average dudes. Because of porn. Not because anyone ever told them something negative about their "physical sexual performance" (another thing men are obsessed with that barely matters for women).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:56 PM
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I am not calling her anything. I say that i believe she is faithful and it's my child, but i know i will possibly get to a point where emotional turmoil will make me doubt that because i am weak and triggered. I want to make sure this situation doesn't arise and it won't have negative consequences for my bonding with the child or the relationship with the mother. It's all about me knowing i will be weak and doubt it and this will cause trouble. It's a safety net for MY issues. It has nothing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:42 PM
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Point me to some of that literature
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:40 PM
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The limited number of traits that you can observe about a person. You choose based on things that can't be faked, that are reliable mate value indicators. Such as attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:40 PM
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Did the value of men increase too? Or how do the same old men win over these high value women for relationships to such an extent, that 70%+ of men are in relationships in their 30s? Do women sell themselves below value? I don't get it. If women are more valuable, then fewer men should be able to afford them. I don't see that. The lowest tier guy stil has a girlfriend. We only see some terminally online autists claiming that it's impossible to get a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:38 PM
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If there's no baby, then there's no baby being raised in a broken home after you demand a paternity test from your baby mama after it's born. My argumentation has nothing to do with the woman. There is no reason to break up for wanting a paternity test for my reasoning. Did you even read and understand what my argument was?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 06:16 PM
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Why does "dating in the west" only contain online dating? The overwhelming majority of average western men are in relationships and have frequent sex and are happy. Doesn't sound so bad. Why is it aparently a problem, that average western men get attention from women who are not conventionally attractive? Average MEANS not conventionally attractive. Is this a classic example of average men having overblown expectations for how beautiful their girlfriend needs to be? Average people date average p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:45 PM
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IN A SPEED DATING SITUATION. Can't you read the study?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:27 PM
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(which admittedly has never actually happened), Case closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:26 PM
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What do you base that on?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:26 PM
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IN A SPEED DATING SITUATION. Which clearly is not a house party with a DJ playing and having social status, competence, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:23 PM
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I told you my take. YOu are not going to do this by thinking hard about it. You do not have the knowledge to build the model you want to build. The model will be way too faulty and incomplete. Research what there is on the topic first and present it, then we can build on that foundation together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:10 PM
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What does that change? My argument has nothing to do with the woman. It doesn't matter if i tell her before or after conception or birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:26 PM
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Sure, you are allowed to approach people way out of your league, but your succcess rate will be close to 0. And if you want to take those chances, you will need to accept that everyone is alllowed to laugh into your face and that it's a normal reaction to defend one's own social standing. because you approaching them is a sign that you think they are as undesirable as you are. If the gap is too far, this is an attack and can be reacted to by a defensive action, like laughing, as in: How dare you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:23 PM
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How do you know those men are not right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:13 PM
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I think everyone is likely to cheat. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:00 PM
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can you name one jurisdiction where this isn't the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:56 PM
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Maybe don't be a typical american and think the world only consists of the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:54 PM
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Therefore, if you demand a paternity test after the baby is born, you are telling your baby mama that you think it is sufficiently likely that she cheated on you, had sex with another man, and conceived that child with him instead of you that you are unsure that you're the father of said child. The whole point of IF she is my baby mama is to be found out. But other than semantics, no: i want a paternity test to make sure i will never doubt the paternity, even in the most heated arguments, in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:53 PM
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What do you mean with "where"? How? The most important social circle of my life i started from scratch at the age of 34. That started with online dating and led to a cascade of meeting and being introduced to new people that form a giant web of friends and acquaintances. Social circles before that started from school or university, or hobby groups, or friends of girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:31 AM
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which part and why? I used online dating and social circles, where meeting women happened naturally, without the need to approach anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:14 AM
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Entirely depends at what stage in the process of matching to dating the ghosting happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:08 AM
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No, that is enough to get matches, unless you only try to match women above your league on the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:06 AM
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In 2024, the best way to meet someone is by combining dating apps, social activities, and events that align with your interests, while avoiding relying solely on any one method. Focus on self-improvement, confidence, and communication skills to make yourself more desirable. Be intentional and genuine in your approach, and prioritize shared values over superficial attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:00 AM
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Let photofeeler.com judge your pictures. You can use it for free if you rate some pictures for free credits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:43 AM
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"women". you mean some fringe minority on an incel&autist board on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:11 AM
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Then you need to get a better profile. Different set of pictures are night and day. Check photofeeler to pick out the best pics of you. Also, you probably do not have a single goog picture. Take new ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:07 AM
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First, that survey is not representative. Second, why would one need to approach someone? I have had 3 girlfriends and 40 sex partners before i approached my first woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:06 AM
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Why? because you can't work with someone you fucked or have been in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:05 AM
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If people laugh in your face, you might want to look into if the people you approach are way out of your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:04 AM
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However, most do not hold these same sympathies for a man who wishes to get a paternity test. Soure? All you read about are the voice of emotionally triggered people who want to comment on the respective posts. It's biased. His feelings are valid, but he shouldn’t take it personally. Women's feelings about the paternity test are also valid, but they shouldn't take it personally. What you read in online discussions are the first reactions to feelings being hurt, by putting oneself into that scena…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:58 AM
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Why don't you understand average values? if you are a gamer, get a gamer girlfriend, or one who doesn't care. What the general public thinks about your gaming hobby is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:25 AM
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You work that way. And that is probably also a main reason for your issues in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:17 AM
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If this is your approach to getting to that formula to solve all attraction questions, you will not be successful. Stop making up theoretical examples and play it out in your head, but instead read the fucking literature on human mate selection and attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:14 AM
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Men cheating on their wives protect them from paternity fraud. Only in your constructed world where people cannot imagine that others work differently than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:08 AM
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How is that relevant to what we talked about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:19 AM
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Well, if he is 20, then yes. When he is 40, then no, because it fits his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:03 AM
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If those men think making compliments is flirting, then this is why their "flirting" isn't working. Of course, flirting doesn't guarantee attraction at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:26 AM
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of course, compliments work as compliments, but it's not flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:25 AM
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How do you think all of the unattractive men get into their relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:24 AM
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So the solution is: be friends with lots of women who are way below you in mate value. Have a ONS with one of them, and then go on to profit from all the social proof and herd-mindedness of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:23 AM
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but many 40 year olds are shamed to the point that dating a 26 year old feels wrong I am a 40yo dating a 26yo (>4 years already) and i wasn't faced with any shaming (neither was she). same with many 35 year olds with 22 year olds I was 35 and she was 22. It didn't feel wrong for neither of us and we didn't get shamed or weird looks or comments by social circle or outsiders. Parents are super fine with it. and definitely hitting on 18. That's the area where i get SOME shaming from people outside …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:18 PM
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That is not flirting though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:08 PM
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Because joking is not flirting. It's joking. Flirting CAN contain a joking element, but that is not sufficient for flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:07 PM
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More men need to understand how flirting works. It's not making compliments. That's complimenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:05 PM
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That is not true. Showing off your confidence via flirting DOES cause attraction. Because confidence is attractive. And if it couldn't be shown prior to flirting, it can be shown with flirting. Which makes a formerly uninteresting man interesting to a woman, who is receptive to the man showing off his confidence. Of course, nothing guarantees attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:53 PM
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That is not the goal when you ask about the reports. The goal is to build a connection that you can take outside the workplace after a while and when there is mutual interest. It's a slow buildup, that never feels like sexual harassment or hitting on her, because it is not. It's a normal conversation to build rapport and bond over stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:36 PM
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I said overwhelmingly. So no, i am not convincing your that it doesn't happen. Women get wet and hot for men for all kinds of things other than physical attractiveness. Maybe focus on those, if you are not physically gifted. A lot of women get turned on insanely by what you say to them, or what you are capable of doing. Come back from repairing the car, with sweat and dirt, black oil alll over you, and she will want to fuck you right there and then, regardless of if you are 5'9 or 6'2, or if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:34 PM
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Incels (and non-incel single men) significantly overestimated the importance of physical attractiveness and financial prospects to women, and underestimated the importance of intelligence, kindness, and humor. Furthermore, incels underestimated women’s overall minimum mate preference standards. Our findings suggest that incels should be targeted for interventions to challenge cognitive distortions around female mate preferences. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224499.2023.2248096
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:25 PM
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Women overwhelmingly do not work that way. Men work that way. You should start taking their perspective and not force a very unlikely situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:24 PM
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That would be a "personality-issue" category man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:04 PM
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If someone has a tight circle of supportive and nontoxic friends and has trouble dating, it is likely due to uncontrollable factors such as looks, money, etc etc You will not find a looks level or a money level that keeps people single. There is an equally undesirable persone to date for everyone. What keeps people single, other than their personality, is having too high standards for their own desirability level. And that might also just be part of their personality. But they will reject this n…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:03 PM
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"The second amendment to folk psychology concerns the sexual double standard. Contrary to the common notion that male promiscuity is tolerated whereas female promiscuity is not, both sexes expressed an unwillingness to get involved with someone with a high number of past sexual partners. For long-term relationships, there was virtually no difference between the sexes in this respect. For short-term relationships, in contrast, men were more tolerant of female promiscuity than women were of male p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:55 AM
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But those are average values. People are very different when it comes to how they view sexual partner count. The very few very promiscuous men have no trouble finding women who have no problem with their promiscuity and are likely promiscuous themselves. The study tested participants for their sociosexuality (SO), which plays a large role in attittudes towards promiscuity. Controlling for age, there was a significant interaction between sociosexuality and number of past sexual partners (Wilks’ L…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:41 AM
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Doesn't work out mathematically. You might not have the experience, but attractiveness and shaming are not the only reasons to make a partner choice on. I am notoriously into very young women and all my girlfriends had been 22 or 23 when i got together with them, regardless of my own age. But now, at 40, i wouldn't want another 22yo gf. I can't do that phase of life in a partner another time. It gets boring or i get too old for that, or both. For a relationship, i'd much more prefer a woman 26-3…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:50 AM
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Maybe because mothers don't want a lonely depressed son who hates life. I for one, would pick Caleb.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:40 AM
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So she can also do that when you don't talk to her. Why would she do it after you have been talking to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:33 AM
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i am making fun of the men who think you can't talk to women anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:25 PM
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It's not just women who have increased likelihood to divorce with more sex partners before marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:24 PM
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All divorce reason are a fail. WHo is at fault when you stop loving someone? Who is at fault when life paths diverge? When people develop at different speeds and are not good for each otehr after a couple of years?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:23 PM
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The graph says she probably wont be divorced in 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:22 PM
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You don't need to sexually harass a woman at her workplace. you can talk with her without that happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:20 PM
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I was joking. But apparently this kind of statement is repeated so often in this sub, that it's not clear that i am making fun of the people who think there is no way to meet women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:19 PM
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that was parody
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:18 PM
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Really depends on what "younger" is and what the age gap is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:17 PM
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What do you mean with "date"? Being in a committed relationship or going on casual dates, ONS, fwb, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:14 PM
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Where do you even meet women? You can't talk to them at work, in school, at bars, in clubs, in the gym or on the street! Social circles are a no go! Online dating doesn't work! I have tried everything, except approaching women in the spaces i told myself i can't approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 11:08 AM
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if you didnt manage to make someone interested in you No, it's when you didn't manage to make ANYONE interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 11:07 AM
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You don't sweat it? You just increased your likelihood of divorcing your first marriage due to an increased number of sexual partners and pre-marital relationships...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:50 AM
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Easy, when everyone who has a sexual partner is a hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:47 AM
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But you know nothing about the reasons for the divorces. Maybe the man fell in love with another woman and wanted a divorce. Maybe the man was cheating. Maybe the hoe was a perfect housewife. You just assume, that the woman was doing something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:46 AM
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And how do you get from a 35% chance, to her being divorced in 5 years? If anything, that statistic makes it more plausible that she is still married in 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:40 AM
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I think i have read a study where receding hairlines were viewed as a marker of maturity, which has an attractive component for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:33 AM
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The idea that only your values and the things you personally care about matter is a very narcissistic way to approach a relationship That is exactly what you are doing though. You don't care about the woman's values.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:27 AM
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It is only modern women that have chilled discussion of past partners and sexual history, because they are insecure and care about keeping up appearance. I have never had an issue talking with women about their sexual history. But that is because they don't get the feeling i am judging them. Of course, they would react defensively if i would convey the sentiment, that they are someone worth less for having had lots of casual sex partners. Same reason why incels don't tell they are virgins, unles…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:26 AM
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Then do so, if it's trivial for you and you are already familiar with the formulas and data. Provide the information for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:15 AM
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are you dense? There is no difference for the answer of your question. Just ASSUME she just broke up before posting the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:03 AM
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That is the point. They are not potential dates for those guys who claim those high numbers either. They just go over to them, ask for number and then leave. It's a game at this point. "Do 20 approaches a night" but they are nowhere near a real chance to get a date from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:44 AM
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So the real advice is to tell average men to put themselves out there and to embrace rejection. Eventually it will yield results. That IS the advice. Improving only yields higher success rate at your current level, or opens up same success rate at higher mate value levels. Nobody needs to improve to get a girlfriend. You just need to talk to enough people on your level.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:42 AM
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You need to differentiate what people desire and what they realize in their lives. The perception that men are more interested in having children or larger families than women is rooted more in societal, economic, and structural factors than in inherent differences in desires between the genders. The practical constraints that women face—career conflicts, financial burdens, unequal caregiving responsibilities, and biological pressures—are significant factors that influence the decision to have f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 07:59 AM
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Start dealing with women who don't reject you. You choose who you approach. Women reject you because you are below their mating value.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:53 PM
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Somehow i expected that you would calculate the corrected values and show us how the results are in reality, instead of you just saying that Without the falsification, the index would show something very controversial: in every developed country, males are the less developed gender. without proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:43 PM
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Not just comparatively physically uglier guys but guys who are ugly on the inside as well. Oftentimes shorter, in worse shape, petty, controlling, boring, ambitionless. You said it with your sister and her guy: if they are happy dating these "runts", they must be in the same league.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 09:00 AM
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So the most closest strategy to success Is to propel yourself upwards in ranking And then go for women way below you in ranking Try your formula by exposing yourself to women who are already way below you/you are already way better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:45 AM
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This is why everyone wants to be a victim today, because people like OP ascribe value to victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:22 AM
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Now, please give me your sources and stop making a fool out of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:06 AM
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This is based on your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:02 AM
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"Stop posting, or i'll tell the mods which formerly banned account you are." would be fine in your book?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:01 AM
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"The Rosie Project" by Graeme Simsion Male Protagonist: Don Tillman, a socially awkward, autistic professor of genetics. Why it fits: Don is not traditionally athletic or muscular, and his quirks and idiosyncrasies take center stage instead of physical appearance. He approaches love analytically, making for a refreshing romance narrative. "Attachments" by Rainbow Rowell Male Protagonist: Lincoln O'Neill, a shy IT worker. Why it fits: Lincoln is more of an introspective, sensitive guy who works a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:24 PM
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You don't want to be judged by who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:50 PM
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about 95% of teenagers will never end up dating <image> Instead of making up the world how you would like it, you should look at the actual statistics on that. People often claim that dating in middle school or high school is fundamental for people as it gives them experience. But that’s not the true case. It fucking is important for development: More than Myth: The Developmental Significance of Romantic Relationships During Adolescence The main reason being is that younger children don’t care a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:16 PM
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Every day we get one of those threads. In the end, you just want to manipulate women into giving sex to beta buxxers so they don't become abusive cheaters and women don't ahve anyone to build a family with anymore. You couldn't become a bad boy if you wanted to. You are a toothless tiger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:35 PM
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"Far fewer husbands are the sole breadwinner in their marriage these days. The share of marriages where the husband is the primary or sole breadwinner has fallen steadily in recent decades, driven mainly by the declining share of marriages where the husband is the sole provider – this was the arrangement in 49% of marriages in 1972, while today that share is 23%." https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ Now,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:18 PM
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What men experience in the dating market is a weak correlation between height and average sexual parnter count. What men here claim is that you are doomed to being a virgin if you are 5'3". What men here claim is that an average height man (5'9") is dwarved by a >6' guy and that all women just go for the >6' guys. Which is not true. Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:28 PM
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Don't go lawyer on me here. Or when you do, then do the conflict resolution part of your expertise. She values me for being me, because being me outcompetes other men who are interested in her. If that some day is not enough anymore for any reason, i am happy to let her go and be with someone else. I don't expect loyalty. I want a relationship with someone who regards me as the best (for them) they can get, just as i do. So, i read up on your kink profile and see how my comment regarding your pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:16 PM
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Again, you are making up a reality here that doesn't exist. I do not ONLY get my value from how desirable i am to the other sex. I get parts of it from that. And if i should ever not be desirable by the other sex, compared to most other men, i still have lots of things to stabilize my ego on. Some of which do not require competing but cooperation, like a large circle of really good friends who value me immensely for "being me" and who carry and push my ego to levels that even a narcissist would …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:27 PM
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... why i agreed with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:23 PM
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Lots of women want me and i am in the priviliged position to be able to pick from a bunch of desirable options. And i have picked a girlfriend that is desired by lots of men. The reason she is with me, is because i outcompete the other men who want her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:03 PM
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I would say that smake dab in the middle of avavarage. Yes, for total relationships before settling down into a "lifelong" relationship, but not for relationships at the age were i started dating my girlfriends (22-23yo). And i don't consider dating someone for 5 weeks a relationship. But that is , of course, all my subjective setting i had in mind when answering the question about the scenarios. In any case, a sign that someone isn't able to keep a relationship going or pick the right partners …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:53 PM
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Sorry to hear that no man wants your girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:48 PM
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Sure, that is not an excuse. You just do the test again and see if it was a false negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:41 PM
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Monogamy does not include having sex with your partner whenever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:36 PM
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It's cheating on the vows itself. I am not an expert on marriage vows, but to my knowledge, they are (1) personal and (2) do not contain vows to never deny sex in a marriage on a regular basis, if at all. There are no rules what you can consider cheating. If that is cheating to you, divorce or have any other consequences for it. Now, for social stigma, you need people to regard your rules as sensible. Not allowing a partner to deny sex is not sensible and everyone wants to be able to do that. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:34 PM
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But the point is the revealed preference is “tall” over “short” and the taller you are the more sex parters you have. DUDE: LOOK AT THE EFFECT SIZE! It's 15 average lifetime sexual partners vs 10, from tallest to shortest, with no limit on individual sex partners. body height has a weak correlation with sex partners. WEAK! I would say the point of talking about 6/6/6 is not to be defeatist and say you need those things or you don’t have a shot, but to direct men toward what women actually find i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:59 PM
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My point is ,that you are an inexperienced 20yo, probably incel, who is afraid of talking to women outside his social circle and would like that women just come to him, so he doesn't need to overcome his fear of rejection. The number of dates you have been on are likely in the single digit area (and that is absolutely fine) and all the "semi-industrial" work you put into "dating" is swiping on apps. You claim something as work you have done, that you actually never did and actually do not know i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:51 PM
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"ask questions on date". Yeah, if that is work to you, this whole thing about a relationship will not work for you. Again, semi-industrial scale seems to imply you are going on dates multiple times a week or at least a month. Unless you talk about your socialist type of industry :D Again, how many times have you DONE that in this year. I don't want to hear what you think about how dating goes in Poland. I want to hear what you specifically did with regards to dating this year, other than swiping…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:15 PM
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I started out this conversation with: "As of recent data, the percentage of relationships in the U.S. where men are the sole breadwinners has decreased over time. In heterosexual households, among couples aged up to 45, around 23% had men as the sole earners according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau and Pew Research (as of 2021). This is part of a broader decline from previous decades, reflecting changing gender roles and increasing female participation in the labor force." The sources are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:05 PM
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that is not the blue pill advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:17 AM
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Well, did you agree to have a child together? Then whatever care needs to be done is on the both of you. How you split up childcare and paid work is up to you. Same goes for household responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:11 AM
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Well of course you haven’t because what women say they want and what they actually go for are two different things. Emotionally available, stable men who are not 6/6/6: not getting laid. I don't have any of the 6/6/6 traits, but i am getting laid a lot, also desired as a relationship partner, for marriage and as a father. YOu want to look at what women do? Look at relationship statistics, height and income statistics, bodyfat or dick size statistics. WAAAAY more men than those who meet the 6/6/6…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:34 AM
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Shaming is by definition socially acceptable. Because it's society's tool to make people adhere to the social norms of society. It's only not socially acceptable, when two sub-groups in society clash with their social norms. In this case, it's people who think promiscuity is violating social norms vs people who don't think it does. People still try to apply their social norms to the subgroup that doesn't want to follow it. And if both subgroups are large enough, so that the pressure/shaming from…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:27 AM
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The solo flying one would be the least attractive to pursue something with. Very high chance that i am also not the one they want to commit being with and likely that is not even the true reason for being solo all their life. 4-5 relationships is on the higher end but still reasonable if they started early. No problems with that. Dodging questions and being the victim in relationships would make me hesistant to pursue anything with them. As with the first person, they are probably lying and ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:17 AM
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What exactly are you doing on a semi-industrial scale? Or have you done?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:10 AM
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you say "women" but then speak about a very specific subgroup of women who can't get commitment from men because they continually make bad choices and shoot above their league. The overwhelming majority of women ARE IN RELATIONSHIPS and do not whine about getting used for sex. The overwhelming majority of women are not misandrist. You do not help to deescalate the online gender war, if you keep painting with such a coarse brush. If men can be happy being used for sex, why can't women? Because me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:26 AM
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How is it nerve wrecking to flirt with a woman? It's pleasurable. What exactly are you doing on a semi-industrial scale? Or have you done?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:21 AM
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Because you say so, or because you have some foundation to base that statement on?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:01 AM
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.these are the women that have to pay . Says the guy who is so lonely and terminally online that he wants to pay for strangers (women) to go eat with him in restaurants, platonically: "I like being alone 99% of the time unless I'm going to a nice restaurant I don't want to maintain and invest energy into a friendship" , "...and call me old school but a gentleman should pay for the meal if he has a lady join him for dinner" . https://np.reddit.com/r/LivingAlone/comments/1ffoqpr/have_you_ever_cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:53 AM
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How many dates have you been on this year were you paid for all expenses?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:42 AM
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This depends on the relationship and the situation and the legal situation and what the father wants to do with the test.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:27 AM
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What kind of excuse would she be able to make up if the test comes up showing you are not the father?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:19 AM
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Men and women can now read each other's thoughts on the internet, and that takes all the mystery and intrigue away from the opposite sex and fills in gaps that are better left unfilled. So is that an appeal to go back into the Matrix and swallow the blue pill? By extensions, red pill knowledge is also killing romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:17 AM
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Ah yes, the classic n=1 study of "i know a guy" that you know exactly how great his relationship is, who is an outlier in intelligence and maturity. That surely is a great way to generalize over all people and make a statement about the importance of relationship experience for having good relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:10 AM
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That's why he said no one wants someone with the baggage of inexperience. What unspoken rules? What is your combined time of having been in romantic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:06 AM
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lol, posting this in this sub is ABSURD. SO many bitter incels here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:03 AM
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With an internship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:02 AM
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the red flag is not that they lack experience, but that they are unwanted by others for some unknown reason that the lack of relationship experience is the proxy for. Also, i think you cannot know what you want unless you have experienced a couple of people. Communication skills can be fine, but conflict resolution skills without relationship experience must be low, as you mainly learn that by being in relationship fights. Sexually pleasing a partner can be learned, but then again, why would you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:57 AM
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Thats fine for you on a personal level but this a societal level and we need to have something or at least work on figuring that out. Absolutely, and we figured it out. 12 weeks is fine, the arguments are there. This is a reasonable point in the process. Your argument is not better, it just has a different valuation of a subjective thing. Morals are not objective and our laws are based on what we actually want to do. People want to abort AND not kill fetuses that are too far developed. The resul…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:42 AM
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You don't seem to understand what exploitation is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:33 AM
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I favor chocolate icecream over vanilla. Do i never eat vanilla ice cream? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:32 AM
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What do you call work? Flirting with women? Asking someone on a date is work to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:30 AM
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it's irrelevant how you call that what you want. You compete over it with other men, in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:29 AM
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That is not about WANTING to sacrifice. It's law.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:27 AM
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They still want a breadwinner, You keep repeating that as if you had established a source for your claims earlier, but you haven't. You just make up information and pretend it's true. Your statement stands on nothing. Support it or gtfo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:26 AM
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Yes, some women are being shamed for not being mothers, for not having partners, for not fulfilling a female role in society, for not being pretty. Exactly. Go to places that accept you how you are. Shame is a societal tool to make you follow norms. If you don't want to follow norms, go to subspaces or just take the pressure and withstand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:22 AM
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Ah, the classic: I base my worldview on a reddit post of a singular example of a biased population of people who have problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:07 AM
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You are competing with other men for the prizes you want. There is no negotiation with society. there is only competition with your rivals. What is your own interest, that you want to put foremost? What are you sacrificing right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:48 PM
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Favoring women does not mean not caring about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:45 PM
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Correct me if i am wrong, but we steadily increase workplace safety for everyone since at least 100 years in the West. Where do you get the idea from that we, men and women, are not convinced that it'd be nice if fewer men died on the workplace and are not doing a lot to achieve this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:38 PM
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I never thought about where my limiting principle is, because it's WAY far out of what society discusses and the current laws are. I am FINE with what laws in my country say, as long as i have a reasonable chance to abort within that timeframe. I don't need others to follow my morals and i recognize that they would not make good laws for a society, where most people don't share my views. No, a parent could not just stop caring for a 6 month old with no repercussions. As with any life, we strive …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:29 PM
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If women expect men to be breadwinners but then the relationships that are chosen by women show 77% not having men as breadwinners, this pretty much means that women do not require men to be breadwinners in their relationships. Any expectation that women might have, do not weigh heavily enough that it keeps them being in relationships with men who do not fulfill that expectation. That is like saying women expect men to be taller than 6 feet. No, they don't. It's a wishlist item for a lot of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:08 PM
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I don't care if it's a human life. It's a human life that i think we have a right to extinguish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:58 PM
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I am not "admitting" anything. Morals are subjective. Mine are as valid as yours. I don't call you out for "admitting" that you are treating fetuses like newborn. No, there a no new anatomical structures that develop after birth. Why would THAT be relevant to my morals? I don't define abortion based on anatomical structures.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:50 PM
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As of recent data, the percentage of relationships in the U.S. where men are the sole breadwinners has decreased over time. In heterosexual households, among couples aged up to 45, around 23% had men as the sole earners according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau and Pew Research (as of 2021). This is part of a broader decline from previous decades, reflecting changing gender roles and increasing female participation in the labor force. Doesn't seem like there is an expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:45 PM
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I really don't care about the fetus' anatomy. I am fine with the limits on abortion within the first 12 weeks, if that makes people happy about their morals. I can get my girls to the abortion clinic within 12 weeks. But I would abort the fetus any time before it's born. Because that are my morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:29 PM
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You do know that you are the boss of your financial interactions with your partner? Don't want a partner who expects you to pay more? Don't fucking be with such a woman. Who the fuck cares if other relationships do it differnetly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:16 PM
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Fuck the fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:03 PM
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If you interfere with adequate mate options, you will be successful in no time. Men who get rejected all the time shoot above their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:55 PM
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You mean that some species get eaten by their mates after sex? You know that his is in the interest of the males? It's evolutionarily beneficial to provide nutrients for the female that just got impregnated, than to keep living and maybe impregnating another female. The males who had a fleeing instinct were less evolutionarily successful, than the ones who stayed around to get eaten. Male spiders are not complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:53 PM
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Fine, then they can take the better option and not compete. They are happier this way, women are happier this way, and other men are also happier this way. What is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:50 PM
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There is no expectation that men are the breadwinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:16 PM
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There is shaming and ostracizing going on for everyone. People just find the social circle where they are not shamed and ostracized for how and who they are. I am sure there is a social circle for you, where you can live a life with minimal shaming and ostracizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:12 PM
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Not caring about women doesn't mean not contributing to society. Why would anyone check out of society and not just relationships with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:05 PM
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60% of young men have NEVER approached a woman and don't plan on doing it! You don't need to approach a woman to have sex or a girlfriend. I approached my first woman after having had 14 years of combined relationships and about 30 sexual partners (women). Things just happen. Also, online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:56 PM
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Just stirring the pot. I saw a lot of comments about penis size in your comment history. Usually, that is a sign of men being super insecure about their penis size and often for no good reason. I have read so many body dysmorphia guys who were convince that their average sized penis was absolutely unfuckable and the reason women would laugh at them and reject them on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:27 PM
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Marriage isn't done by society to men. You choose to marry. It's optional. How is it exploitative? If anything, you could argue it's beneficial to the lesser earning partner in case there is a divorce. There are more benefits for women => how is that EXPLOITING men? Institutions are also not society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:24 PM
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Is it because you worry so much about penis size?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:20 PM
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No, it doesn't. There's this thing called self-control which allows you to still make educated decisions despite how you may be feeling at the moment. You couldn't be more wrong. Maybe read "Predictably Irrational: The Hidden Forces That Shape Our Decisions" by Dan Ariely. There is a chapter about how we make decisions when we are sexually aroused (or in any other emotionally heated situation). Here is the study that is talked about in the book https://people.duke.edu/~dandan/webfiles/PapersPI/S…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:11 PM
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Why are you so afraid of failing? Some things cannot be made sure to not fail. Such as relationships. If you don't want to get divorced in your life, you are not able to marry. Which is fine, too. Marriage is getting out of fashion anyway. I can hardly see a reason why i should marry, and i am not even averse to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:17 PM
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Love isn't an excuse to not use your brain But that is exactly what love does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:15 PM
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Not divorcing means you will fail forever. Do you want to cut your losses and start into a better life, or do you want to keep losing forever like an idiot?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:10 PM
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Mental gymnastics? I literally gave you a review study on how women think about men to disprove your gibberish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:08 PM
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You should include up to date science on love in your worldview. Yes, all relationships are transactional by this reasoning, except that conclusion doesn't mean anything anymore because you get there with such a broad and all encompassing definition of "value" that the conclusion becomes baked into the premise, thus making the argument unfalsifiable and untestable. What is your definition of transactional? Cuddels for rent payment? That is a bit narrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:16 PM
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Don't you want to divorce a cheatign wife or a wife who doesn't love you anymore , or a wife who gambles away all your money or who is pregnant by some other guy and wants to keep it? Don't you think it's good that you can get out of a marriaage with a woman who turned into someone you don't want to be married to anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:14 PM
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Disadvantaged is not the same as exploited. That would be dumb, uninformed and harmful to say. 50% of young men having never asked out a girl is not "checking out" of society. Also, basing your argument on a fucking survey on twitter on a biased sample of incels who follow the account that did the research is dumb, uninformed and harmful. Women do not hate men. Not even feminists hate men. To think that generations of women hate men is dumb, uninformed and harmful. https://journals.sagepub.com/d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:12 PM
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Why would that make anyone mad? Divorce is GOOD. It ends a bad relationship and gives both parties the option to get into a better relationship. That 0 sex partner people don't divorce is a religious thing, not a thing about sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:26 PM
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To me, volunteering is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:21 PM
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Flags are different for every person. A green flag for me is a red flag for you. Where you find your friends, you can also find you relationship partners. Dating apps work great for some and offer options for introverts to engage with others, they would not meet or talk to in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:20 PM
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Why would any man want to sacrifice himself for a society that exploits him. Sacrifice himself for a society? By doing what? In what way is society exploiting the man? By not giving him a woman to fuck but expect him to not live on social security? Who is checking out exactly? The few MGTOW weasles? How many men check out and why should we care? I don't think there is an alterantive to our evolved hierarchical systems and the behavior that it leads to. You can get a girlfriend at any level. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:15 PM
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"the very rich"... go to a similarly small group at the bottom of the food chain and you will have 100% crime rate. To the extent of daily crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:07 PM
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A lot of "good/nice men" are men who live or have lived through hardships as opposed to men who were born with a golden spoon in their mouths. A lot of golden-spoon-in-their-mouths men are good/nice men as opposed to men who live or have lived through hardships. There is no reason to believe, that people who suffer in life are somehow better partners for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:03 PM
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The ancient Greeks had multiple concepts of love, such as agape (unconditional love), eros (romantic/erotic love), philia (friendship), and storge (familial love). While self-sacrifice may play a role in certain relationships (e.g., friendship or familial bonds), it wasn't a universally prescribed element of love in Greek thought. In Plato's philosophy, love (eros) is often defined as the pursuit of the Good and the Beautiful—an ascent towards higher forms of beauty and truth, as discussed in wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:51 PM
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I'd pick the woman who loves me. The other arrangement is not a romantic relationship for me. I can have that anytime when i am single. No need to commit to someone who doesn't love me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:26 PM
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The fact that they choose to speak about and promote these ideas, even when they don’t directly benefit from them So money and social status are no benefit to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:18 PM
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So you had ONE example of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:17 PM
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Normal people don’t talk about ex’s on the first few dates. "What's your relationship history" has been a question from both sides on all my first dates with relationship intentions. I think i, and the women i dated, are pretty normal with regards to what is talked about on first dates. Other than that: sure, lie about your sex and relationship past if it's a big hurdle for your dating life to say the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:09 PM
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Neither people nor any app can find the perfect match for a person based on pictures. But they DO! A perfect match starts with a match of how people look. Then they text and see if that matches. Then they meet and see if that matches. They have sex. They spend more time... and in the end, you have a perfect match for whatever relationship type is wanted. We choose mates based on how attractive they are. If that is the first level of choosing or the 4th level of choosing doesn't matter. Imagine a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:06 PM
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Love is inherently self sacrificing by definition, or else it's not love. You just defined it that way? Where do you get that from? Who subscribes to that definition? It should require you to want to die for something, and isn't defined in any exchanges of value. What is the point of wanting to die for something? Why would that be love? Who would that serve? The loved one? On the other end, seeing all relationships as transactional is a typical sign of autism. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:52 PM
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You add that to his statement. It's not IN his statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:41 AM
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IMO what most men (including myself) expect from a relationship are sex, companionship and peace, and the first two are basic components from a relationship, and the woman gets exactly the same, those are shared, not exchanged. Peace is more tricky but it should be basic too. If both are getting the same, by giving exactly that, is it a transaction? So ANY kind of sex and sex frequency will do? And ANY kind of companionship will do, no matter what kind of lifestyle? If she wants 1 time sex a yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:40 AM
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It's a typical sign of personality issues and attachment style. People who are super afraid of being abandonned cannot deal wit hthe fact, that they need to bring something to table in order to be loved by someone and not be left. THey fear, that some day, they might not be able to provide and the nbe left, which is a trauma they cannot face and cannot risk. So it's better to be forever alone than to risk being left. Only unconditional love would guarantee to never be left. But that is a fantasy…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:27 AM
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That is the claim. There is a guy who is exactly like the commenter, except that he is in a relationship. So there is no quality about the commenter, that makes it impossible for him to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:25 AM
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I don't think sex is degrading to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:13 AM
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There is a man just like you, who is in a relationship. How did that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:59 PM
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They say that men and women must be able to be friends so let's look for evidence to support it, when in reality, if you go from evidence to conclusion as one always should, you come to the reality that men and women can't be friends. I can do everything with my female friends that i can do with my male friends. Don't pick relationship partners that limit you in your friendships, if you want to have equal friendships with women and men. You are trying to make a general statement, when every rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:31 PM
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please explain. I reread it 3 times and translated it into my language in case i missed something. There is nothing to be found about why he is unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:23 PM
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Why do you think i was making a point towards NOT "faking it till you make it" or to have an overblown sense of value? It's beneficial. That's why WE EVOLVED TO OVERRATE OURSELVES.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:15 PM
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There always is someone interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:12 PM
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None of my dates ever felt like a job interview. The overwhelming majority of them were enjoyable and rewarding. 99% of them were with me being >35yo. I think there is no reason to give up. It's in your hand to have enjoyable dates. Also, I dont think women have much to offer anymore, unless they desire you from the get go, their time and affection feels preety conditioned and transactional. They are always expecting something from us and sometimes their actions are not alingned to their desires…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:01 PM
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How do you know you are unwanted when you haven't been in the game to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:38 PM
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Why don't you post that research then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:23 PM
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Women file 80 percent of the divorces and divorce rate is 50 percent. Now we can debate all we want about these statistics, but they are what they are and there is a significant proportion of those marriages that ends because women is at fault. The numbers are wrong. Cite your sources. We live in a time where men are favored in relationships. No more commitment. You remember that women are the ones who seek commitment more while men want to be free and "spread their seed"? Situationships, fuckbu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:52 PM
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Alright, that's the friendzone equivalent behavior. Your case might be one that leads to a misqualification on a survey, but i still think she wouldn't call that a committed relationship on a survey, even when she wants to get to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:11 PM
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Did you tell them you are having a FRIENDS WITH BENEFITS relationship prior to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:36 PM
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Make an example where it doesn't open up more desirable partners
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:36 PM
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Feel free to do it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:35 PM
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Sure, if you put yourself into a situation where there are no women, no advice other than "change location" will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:34 PM
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Show the statistics. Otherwise i'll just brush your comment aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:22 PM
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It's only a scarce resource in your worldview. The women i fuck from online dating do not regard it as giving away part of their dignity. (and they are also not looking to bag me. they just want to have fun and sex, feel desired and get attention)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:36 AM
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You can also just have committed relationships with women for years before you switch to single or another relationship, and you can also have sex with other women in the mean time. YOU are the designer of your relationships. Nobody forces you to be married to one woman for life in a "boring and stale marriage". If YOU have a boring and stale marriage, that is due to YOU being boring and stale or YOU choosing boring and stale partners. Ghosting women once they sleep with you? Why? This is just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:28 AM
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No, this is really attractive to men. There is science on the appeal of borderline personality disorder women for men for short term sexual relationships. Read it!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:19 AM
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Working out to become more physically attractive, becoming financially successful to allow for a high quality of life for you and your family to be, acquiring social status in your relevant peer group, OBVIOUSLY improves your desirability on the mating market. Any country's mating market. Yet, this is not a requirement to have a relationship or sex. It opens up more desirable partners and makes it easier to get casual sex interest from women. Nobody needs to self improve to get a girlfriend. Men…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:13 AM
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Dating is not hard for straight men. Maybe it's hard for you. Maybe because you want to be dominated by an older woman, and that is just a very rare setup to find for a committed relationship, and probably even less available in traditional societies like Belarus, where you seem to be from. Nobody needs to self-improve to qualify for a girlfriend. Don't be ridiculous. The ugliest and worst personality men are in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:05 AM
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you have no idea about women, men and dating. Don't make up silly terms in a post, as a front to hide the fact you just want to put out one more thread about how women should date you, rather than get fucked by Chads. It's so tiring. Niceguys and incels keep on telling women how bad their behavior is for their own goals...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:57 AM
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What does that have to do with anything? The goal in these movements in not to gaslight others, it's to gaslight oneself so one doesn't feel bad about oneself. Fat acceptance movements don't want ME to accept fat women. They want fat women to accept themselves. The movements are inherently about keeping fat women unattractive and happy about it. Women keep their competition down, by telling them how attractive they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:48 AM
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But yet, we approach and we succeed. It's your choice if you approach and succeed or don't approach and whine on the internet about not getting a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:43 AM
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Source: THE LAW. https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_stgb.html Section 183 Acts of exhibitionism (1) A man who vexes another person by committing an act of exhibitionism incurs a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year or a fine. [...]
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:40 AM
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Date the people who are just as undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:35 AM
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The one who doesn't go on dates is the one at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:35 AM
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i know. The explanations have been done in several threads over the past months. But it's always Chad harems and women thinking they are in committed relationships while they are just fuckbuddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:34 AM
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again, some people call each other boyfriend and girlfriend when they are not even in a relationship, but just have a 5th date. As long as she doesn't answer "i am in a committed relationship" when you told her that you have a friends with benefits relationship, everything is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:33 AM
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Can you quote 3 of the comments where "commenters will tell you to date other men as a solution to their dating problems."?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:30 AM
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<image> Women do approach the men who are just as desirable as themselves the most and they, a little more than men, stick to their own desirability level with the messages. There's a difference between "shoot your shot" and "I refuse to settle for anything less than a 6 foot tall Adonis with a 6 figure income and a 6 pack". Who refuses to settle for anything less than a 6 foot tall adonis with a 6 figure income and 6 pack? 99.9% of all the women in relationsships settled for less. And 99.9% of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:49 AM
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If you say " the statistics don't agree" then i expect you to be able to actually have those statistics or point me to them. Please do so or retract your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:45 AM
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COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP is the key term. What does "dating" even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:45 AM
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Men gaslight themselves into believing their are hot shit. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:44 AM
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Well if you look at ~36yo women, that is to be expected. If you friend group would consist of 27-29yo women, you would have most of them in relationships with men 29+
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:43 AM
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well if a guy shoots his shot with a woman out of his league, he will just get rejected. meanwhile a woman in the same situation might get strung along, used for sex etc. That is not true. He might just get strung along, used for attention and money. Making up for your lack in looks with a fancy dinner is casual dating 101. Lots of men PERFORM something to keep the women interested, who are out of their league. It's short term and transactional. Just like when women get used for sex. All the men…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:42 AM
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Women get significantly more dating opportunities and attention Who is to blame if you are not one of the dating opportunities? The women who wait for you to approach them, or you, who waits for women to approach you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:10 PM
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In Germany, the law regarding indecent exposure or exhibitionism was set up in a way to only criminalize men, possibly, in hopes to get women to show us more of their naked bodies. Didn't work. Now, women are free to swim topless in public swimming pools, but they still don't do that. Instead, the woke left makes men keep on their shirts while dancing in techno clubs... instead of making women take off theirs, too. How quickly did "free the nipple" turn into "cover all nipples"?!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:37 PM
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They just date younger men because men their age are not putting up with their bullshit. They need to focus on men who lack the life experience to sort out the trashy women. Men, who are still so underdeveloped and hormone driven, that they can't resist pussy when it's offered, even if it's a loser women attached to it. OH WAIT
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:26 AM
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People, on average, see themselves as more attractive than they really are. That is good though. Slightly shooting above your own attractiveness level because you think this is who you match up with, is beneficial in evolutionary terms. It works from time to time and the negatives of getting a higher rejection rate is bearable. On average, we shoot 25% over our own desirability, when contacting others for dating. Most often, we do end up with people IN our league, rather than slightly above our …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:24 AM
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No, women who are stuck in situationships do not think they are in committed relationships to any relevant degree. Also, we have cohabitating data as well. But of course, you will explain how the players have several women rotating cohabitating with them because of work shift differences, so they all think they are in committed relationship, cohabitating with their partner, but actually they are just unknowingly part of a harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:02 AM
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"he said" is your basis?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:59 AM
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But why should that be an issue? It's not. Mating works. Both the short term sexual variety, and the romantic committed long term variety, as well as anything in between and outside of those two main drivers. The only people who can't shut up about this topic are foreveralone people, incels, niceguys, autists etc. who are a tiny minority in the whole mating dynamic. And they don't mate, because they think they deserve more than they can get, or they do not even attempt reasonable efforts to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:56 AM
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Bring the basis for your heuristics
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:30 AM
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Semantics. The implicit implication is obvious to everybody else that commented, but you So you agree, that you are just talking about young, single women who don't seem to be able to get a suitable man to take them on nice dates with intentions of commitment. That is: 34% of young women are single (pew definition). Half of young singles do not look to date/for a relationship. So 17% remain. It's a stretch to assume, that every woman who potentially wants a relationship but isn't in one right no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:23 AM
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You don't mention "single people", you talk about "women", who cannot find a single suitable date. Yet, the overwhelming majority of women find lots of suitable dates and go into committed relationships or marriages with them. Single women are only single for a time, for the majority of cases. There are very few people who are foreveralone against their will. Look at people in their 30s. They all lived and still live, finding relationships every day, in the age of tinder&instagram when they got …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:40 AM
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So when men shoot above their league it's "shoot your shot, maybe you get lucky". But when women shoot above their league, it's "don't do it, you will never find a suitable date, but only men who just want sex and don't commit to. you really should give the men in your league, which i define who they are, a chance!" At some point you have to accept responsibility and acknowledge that there are many men out there willing to take you nice dates, but you're just not into them. The overwhelming majo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:10 AM
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It's not a "vs". it's the same fucking shit. Stop using averages of groups or even extreme outlier positions to make statements about individuals of the same group. The greatest problem of this sub is people thinking that averages of groups (other than the own group) mean that every individual is like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:58 AM
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What people are attracted to is not necessarily what they would choose as a relationship partner. Overall, people in romantic relationships are quite similar in attractiveness and other traits. A league is no definitive rule for who you can get, it's a probabilistic approach. After all, you don't want to spend your life going for the 0.000001% chance types, because LEAGUES ARE NOT A HARD RULE! You want to date people that have a realistic chance to want to commit to you. Imagine what a world wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:33 AM
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That is exactly what women are doing on OLD and everyone is furious how they have no sense of their own value and try to get men to commit to them who are way above them. What is it now? Are you fine with all women just shooting their shot with the very attractive men, because they might hit the jackpot?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:27 AM
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Sounds like you need to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:18 AM
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We always talk about averages. Nothing applies to all men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:50 PM
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Why are you not accepted and not loved?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:48 PM
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"what would happen".. please , pick out a respective sample of threads that are not biased but representative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:47 PM
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wrong. There are experiments with Mdma and octopus. They also get cuddly and happy from the serotonin flush.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:46 PM
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Of course. How can it not be "fine" with me? People don't choose to be pedophiles. Just as they don't choose to be homosexuals. If there is no harm done, how could i not be fine with them existing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:45 PM
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There are studies about incels and they tend to have problematic mental health issues. OP was an incel for 30 years. There really is enough data on incels to use heuristics about them. OP really just fits and people don't see how he is different from the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:44 PM
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"I believe" is not heuristics. Show the data basis of your heuristics and we can cleary see that there is no correlation of science and pedophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:42 PM
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I absolutely did this. My main argument is, that i do not ever want to get into an emotional/heated situation/jealous situation/etc. where my insecurity or heatedness goes to a place where i doubt that my kids are mine. I do not want to feel that, i do not want to risk blurting that out, i do not want my kids to hear or notice this insecure thought that might come up and can't be kept secret. I do never want to have my children get less of my affection or commitment, because i have doubts about …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:52 AM
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You don't know if he is or isn't. He just knows that voicing his concerns will end the relationship and that is not worth it to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:47 AM
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I guarantee you if this was a man berating his wife Well, your guarantee is nothing to base your analysis of this being a biased platform on. You should find a comparable example, or even better, a range of comparable examples. https://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/1ewtcuv/every_time_my_wife_43f_gets_home_after_a_few_days/ The top comment is: I think she may have some bitter feelings or resentment about having a very disabled child. When she has to return after having fun, it seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:45 AM
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I'll bite, even though i am probably not belonging to the group of people you have in mind. But i can see myself saying that women are, on average, more uninteresting/boring to me than men (although, overall most men and women are boring to me). This is based on the fact that i enjoy a type of conversation that, all my life, i only had to satisfactory levels with other men. I have REALLY great women in my life. A girlfriend, two female best friends, one of which i chat with daily and meet up wee…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:32 AM
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Heuristics. If you are the exception, you need to prove it. Your post didn't do a good job at proving that. The consequence is, that people are not convinced you are different than what statistics would lead them to expect from your life history
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:36 AM
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Ah, i think i misread a comment/post of you. You are 31 now, i thought you are 32 now, but you met your girlfriend a year ago. Alright, my error.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:33 AM
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See I'm all for men needing to take risks, but if we want to live in an age of equality we can't one sidedly foist all the risks and dangers on men, and then have women be able to just sit back, accept who they want, and shoot down men as they wish. You are, again, hiding your inactivity behind "if we want to live in an age of equality". We don't. Equality doesn't mean things are the same for men and women. Women face great risks and dangers in mating that men don't. It's not comparable. Equalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:23 AM
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Dude, you have been a 31yo incel and just got into a relaitonship recently. That's why i didn't write 32yo incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:17 AM
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Agree, she can freak out as much as she wants. At some level of reaction to that, i would be the one to break up the relationship. Just as with some of the women in this thread, not being in agreement on this topic too much, will result in not wanting to be with that partner. It's better to know this before getting married/pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:17 AM
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Yes, absolutely. And i would be surprised if he doesn't already do that. After all, how much control do you have over whom you fall in love with?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:13 AM
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Where do you stop trusting your partner in your relationship? At what point do you express, that you think he might be doing something that breaks the rules, when you don't know for sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:12 AM
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Dude, you can get accused of anything for just existing. How are you not deathly afraid of that? You don't need to talk to women to get accused. So, at least do somethign with your life that even has a chance of women wanting to be with you. Men need to take risks to get what they want. Being as risk averse as you are won't get you anything in mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:03 AM
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I don't think that. I would advise and have done so myself, to talk about abortion, contraception, and dna tests as soon as possible. Contraception before having the first sex. Abortion before having regular or unprotected sex. DNA tests when talking about having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:58 AM
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He is not wrong. Also, he didn't have a chance to react differntly without threatening his marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:54 AM
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Right, that would be the next best thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:53 AM
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I am a Chad. Not the chadliest of Chads, but well within the top 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:51 AM
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What does that say about you then, to be married and expect a child of a clueless immature man that you need to divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:50 AM
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You used "logical part of the brain" and several other commenters, which i couldn't all address specifically, talked about "logical" when "rational" would be correct. I just wanted to make a point for all the readers to adopt a more precise language.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:48 AM
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There are men who will still find reasons to be angry even when none exist There is an example for of and for everything. This doesn't disprove a rule. You for example, are angry because you didn't get to experience being loved, desired, in a romantic relationship in your teens and early twenties. You think you deserve that. You compare yourself to others and come out worse. Your ego can't take that and you make women responsible for how you feel. You study law and are convinced, that this statu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:43 AM
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Show us the statistics please.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:38 AM
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Explain, how you get to average values of men who hare happy with their girlfriends/wives and can find sex with women easily, about how they treat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:37 AM
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How many percent of men are not loved and accepted?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:35 AM
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Yes, there is a evo-bio urge for procreation Got a source for that? Because that is one of the things i highly doubt and never could find a source for it. For all i know, we have a drive for sex, not for procreation. Procreation just happens on the side. There never was a need for a specific drive for procreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:34 AM
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Difference Between Logical and Rational Logical and rational are two concepts that are often used interchangeably, but they have distinct meanings in philosophy, psychology, and everyday usage. Here’s a breakdown of their differences: Logical refers to reasoning that is consistent and follows a strict set of rules or principles, often based on formal logic. Logical thinking focuses on the structure and validity of arguments. If an argument is logical, it means that the conclusions follow correct…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:18 PM
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Doing the test after the child is born will destroy the relationship, in case it's not my child. Telling her in advance, will make sure she will abort children with an unsure dad, or be extra careful with other men's sperm during ovulation. Both of wich is fine and preferred, over losing the relationship when i get to know it's not my child after the child is already born. I already told my gf that i will need a DNA test. I never want to get to a point where i doubt that my children are mine. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:02 PM
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Which might be due to your personal issues with social circles. Being a 31yo incel clearly makes you "not normal" and normal advice might not be suitable to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:56 PM
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Classic, BraindeadMarshal response.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:51 PM
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Who says that the fraud is intentional? I really do not care if my woman is cheating. I just want to make sure the baby is mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:50 PM
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I am not punching down. I want to know if he understands why he gets to have this experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:48 PM
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You should read the comments then. A lot of women here think it's worth divorcing the man over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:46 PM
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Because if she knows in advance, she would not risk getting pregnant by another man. It's a difference if the child exists or doesn't exist. Getting the DNA tetst after the child by another man is already born is NOT the same as never bringing the child to terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:45 PM
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But he men who get paternity frauded also think they have a very committed and solid marriage and their wive would never do that to them. They also have to ask for the DNA test to be sure, despite trusting their wives. This is the whole point. Men trust their wives, but then get frauded. The only way to not get frauded is to do the test, EVEN if you fully trust your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:43 PM
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To let them know that they will not get through with having Chad's baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:39 PM
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That is what it's about. I don't care about cheating, as long as the child is mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:37 PM
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you should show htis post to your husband, so he can send you the divorce papers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:36 PM
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Half of all women cheat. It's not character assassination, if you accept the realistic chance that your woman is part of the cheating group of women. It's not a "i am sure you cheat", it's a "i can't be sure you don't cheat". Requiring to believe anything else for such an important, life changing issue, is naive and stupid. Get over your hurt feeligns and think about the position of the man. "Trust me" , when half of the population is cheating, is NOT enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:35 PM
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I actually mean it. I have zero issues with her getting pregnant from another guy and then aborting it. But if the kid gets born, the relationship ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:32 PM
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Springing it into a partner who is already pregnant or just given birth is not ok. Why? because she doesn't have the option to not fuck other guys to get pregnant from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:26 PM
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But at the same time, women ask where the guy has been after work for the past weeks and do not think about this question being a fundamental insult to the man's honor and intergrity. What is it about trust in this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:24 PM
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You think any man who wants a paternity test, is not getting one to spare his woman's feelings? What percentage of births are we talking here? Most men don't want one or don't care. The ones who want one mostly get one. What is this mysterious group of men who really want one but choose not to get one?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:23 PM
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Make an argument against it being about insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:17 PM
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I am curious if he realizes how his condition affects his desirability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:16 PM
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Any social group. You know how you become part of social groups? You do stuff with others that interests you and them. You talk to them about this interest, life, the world. You get warm with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:14 PM
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then change your fucking life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:13 PM
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Yet, work is, was and remains one of the most prominent places to find partners offline.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:12 PM
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It's better to approach and risk making people slighty uncomfortable, than being super uncomfortable yourself for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:11 PM
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Same. Every week i get closer to deleting the account and giving up on making people see their issues or the truth. This board is about challenging your views. I don't think anyone here has ever changed their views or was willing to challenge them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:11 PM
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What are you angry about and how does it show?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:09 PM
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Yes, it has been like this for years. Most of the threads here are terminally online autists who have lost touch with reality and make up arguments in their head and think they get to "gotcha moments" that will result in them getting laid or society seeing how it has to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:08 PM
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Chad doesn't feel entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:07 PM
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I think it's super unrealistic. But you don't seem to have a problem with unrealistic things, considering your religious beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:04 PM
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Do you have a lot of these inner conversations with yourself, where two positions are answered in contradicting manners? Where does this shaming of men happen? In your terminally online world of incels and angy catladies, where the most extreme positions of the most fucked up people collide and you think that is life?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:49 PM
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No, you don't ask around. You become part of a social group and do warm approaches where you see mutual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:45 PM
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You are just shifting the goal post. For every solution, you introduce another hurdle. In the end, there is no way for a social anxiety, autistic man in a 100% male dominated work and hobby environment, who is allergic to sunlight and only sits at home, being 400 pounds and with several facial deformities to find a woman without divine intervention. Are oyu happy now? For everyone else, going out and socializing, doing warm approaches, is working. Stop being so fucking annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:44 PM
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Consider that people are not a monolith and some want to be approach while others don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:42 PM
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Yes, warm approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:40 PM
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These people need to see that the problem is within them I spent the last years posting basically "no, you are the problem here" under posts in all subs related to dating and relationships. It's astonishing how many people do not understand their own mechanisms and faults.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:37 PM
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That's probably both within one standard deviation of the mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 11:05 AM
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triple digits, at any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:00 PM
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I don't think 11 and 2 is a mismatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:00 PM
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Trustworthy man here. I am a man who is rated as super trustworthy by men and women of all ages alike. It doesn't take long for people to trust me. Most of the trustworthyness seems to come just from my appearance. People trust me right from the start to quite a large amount. Talkin a few minutes with me opens up further trustworthyness and people tell me their deepest issues, mental health problems, fears, shameful things, etc. Bouncers tell me "nah, i don't need to search you, i just trust you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:20 PM
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The woman dropped clear signs that she just plays along to lets you keep your face in the social cirlce. You on the other hand, did not get that, because autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:03 PM
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You blindly trust data way too much bro. You are the idiot here, but you are too stupid to realize it. I also remember another crazy statistics saying like a 85% percent of men haven't had sex in years. Your own source says that sexlessness is low, with ~15% of men having not had sex in 2021. It's way lower if you take a longer timeframe of "sex in years". You just owned yourself pretty hard, going from a claimed 85% to a source of 15%. Obviously 85% percent being sexless for five years is delus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:56 PM
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i have dealt 2 times with the issue now. Yes, right now religious people have more children. But they do not keep their high fertility. You think it will always remain higher than the non-religious. I think it will end up at similar levels. My argument for that is, that the fertility rate is dominated by factors outside of religious values. Religion just correlated with the previous outside values that led to higher fertility. Where will fertility of religious people be at in 50 years, according…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:32 PM
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Can you understand why women don't want to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:23 PM
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"what you can get" for a relationship. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:13 AM
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This sub is wrong. ALL the data show that the top percent of men regarding sex partners have a higher count than the top percent of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:11 AM
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We don't disagree with that. My claim is that it's even lower in non religious countries and groups. No, my point is, that religious communities are just lagging behind but show the exact same trend and will end up at the same low points. Why are you hostile to future projections in data. As i just explained, that is exactly what i do. Project the data of religious communities into the future and you end up with below-replacement fertility in a few years. Are you trying to say that religion does…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:10 AM
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of course i am interested in a woman that sleeps with me on the first date. If she doesn't sleep with me on the second date at the latest, i would discard her as relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:01 AM
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As a woman, you encounter plenty of dudes of both types during your lifetime. The first sounds a lot more feminist, and egalitarian, but would it be a stretch to say that the second type of man wins you out a lot more often? How many fucking times does it need to be repeated before you guys finally understand that women are not a monolith. What the FUCK do you mean with "as a woman"? Every woman has her own views on this. My girlfriend would never choose the traditional man, because she doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:18 PM
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go look who was in their bed the weekend before. Look at relationship statistics. 70% of men are in relationships. How many percent of men are slim, fit, musculous, outgoing, ec." 1-5%. I am all for "look at what women do, not at what they say". And this clearly points at average guys being just right for average girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:00 PM
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I think the issue is we've had rules over such boundaries for decades, Who the fuck is "we"? Everyone makes their own rules for their relationship and friendships. The one thing that seems quite disingenous though is saying that men and women can be friends, including with people they're sexually attracted to, as long as there are certain boundaries present. Boundaries apply to how you interact with ANY person outside a romantic relationship partner. People are sexually attracted to a lot of peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:53 PM
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. I also remember another crazy statistics saying like a 85% percent of men haven't had sex in years. You remember incorrectly. Sex partners in the past 5 years: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:44 PM
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So what is the role of women in society? We know men are to be providers, and domestic laborers, what do women do? Can you please stop thinking about all women/men being the same? Everyone can do what they want and choose a partner that is to their liking, regarding roles. Not everyone is a feminist. And men are definitely not the domestic laborers right now, on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:41 PM
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And why would you take the views of the vocal minority in a datingover40 sub, over what actually happens in the world? You say that in other countries, it's teh standard. What do you base that on? Do you have statistics for that? Why don't you use the same statistics for the US, but instead rely on a biased unrepresentative subsample of women to inform us about hte state of coffee dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:16 PM
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There will be a greater proportion of traditions like religious adherence in a generation or two. Do you have the data on that or is that just speculation, that decline in fertility rate is faster in non-religious communities than decline in adherence to religious traditions overall? More religious countries are more likely to be above replacement Africa has the greatest rise in religiosity. Look at how their TFR is developing. Where do you think will it end up? https://www.statista.com/statisti…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:09 PM
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Define what you mean with fetish. Because it's not what a fetish is. Unless you mean by "type" the way my foot looks. I think what you talk about are sexual preferences, maybe a kink, but not a fetish. Of course, my long term partners want to be "my type", matching my sexual pereferences. And of course, i pick my LTR partners to match my preferneces and kinks. Key Characteristics of Fetishes Intense Focus on a Specific Object or Activity: A fetish involves a strong sexual attraction to a particu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:20 PM
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he didn't read the room. Just like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:13 PM
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agree, but how is this relevant to the topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:10 PM
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Makes you be less fearful of abandonment... work on your self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:09 PM
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People can be clingy in relationships for various psychological, emotional, and social reasons. "Clinginess" generally refers to behaviors characterized by an excessive need for attention, reassurance, or constant proximity to a partner. Several factors may contribute to such behaviors: 1. Attachment Styles Attachment theory, developed by John Bowlby and later expanded by Mary Ainsworth, suggests that early childhood experiences with primary caregivers shape one's attachment style, which can inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:08 PM
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Any tradition that's tied to increasing birth rates will last longer than one that doesn't. Fertility rates go down worldwide. Where are the traditions that are tied to increasing birth rates? They die like flies. They are in niche minority communities. but religiosity is a long-lasting tradition that is tied to increased birth rates. "Thus, the overall picture of fertility in Muslim countries has been from a regime of high fertility in the early 1960s, when most countries had a TFR of 6 to 7.5 …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:07 PM
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Women don't want to not be desirable for the men they desire based on how old they have become. It's just a reaction to a hurt ego. I don't understand why you would even make this a topic, other than again, lashing back out at those women and make public statement about how they are all insecure in their value and not able to deal with how young women are more desirable to men. The only way to not make it about the woman's sexual marketplace value, is to make it about oyung women being too naive…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:55 PM
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If a woman is in the mood for getting down and dirty and a guy isn't for any valid reason, she will very rarely acquiesce politely...she will very likely either sulk and leave or go silent, or aggressively pressure you, or imply that you must be a closet homosexual. Au contraire if a man wants to get his pecker wet and she is not in the mood he is expected to drop the subject immediately or risk being seen as a sex pest pig. So what? Both sexes expect that the other takes a rejection easily and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:45 PM
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they will not withstand the test of time Nothing withstands the test of time. Least of all, conservative traditions. Are you blind? All conservative traditions EVER have fallen over time and the ones we currently still see around to a high degree are also going to fade out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:43 PM
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Being clingy is not because the partner is such a catch. Only incels think that a clingy gf would be not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:40 PM
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If a man on here brings up women’s dual mating strategy Well, you whole argument is only right because you misrepresent what the dual mating strategy is. Also, there is no evidence that the strategy really exists. "that some women will hook up with their first choice, but when they are unable to get commitment from these men, will “settle” for the stable but not so attractive guy" This is just "settling" and both men and women do it, because nobody gets their first, theoretically ideal choice. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:39 PM
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Low birth rates will solve themselves. It just takes generations. It's the normal adaptation of the gene frequencies in a population to the new environmental situation. There is absolutely no point in "making people have kids" who don't want kids, or who want to have them later rather than sooner. Nobody has even found a way to "make people have more kids". Don't worry, everything will work out evnetually and the adaptation phase will be different but not a "disaster". People do not live where t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:29 PM
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Imagine you're a man, walking down the street, minding your own business and every so often a women comes up to you unprompted. Awesome! She propositions you for a relationship! I'll proposition being a stay at home trophy boyfriend. She tells you that you're perfect husband material and if you please please pretty please would marry her! I'll check her assets and earnings, and consider being with her, if that offers me a lifestyle i couldn't get on my own. If she isn't wealthy and influential/c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:13 PM
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[source needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:54 AM
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Having a 50% position + baby vs having a 100% position is a tradeoff many couples do to share the workload. Depending on the job, the person working more carries WAY higher risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:53 AM
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The vast majority of people are also running at capacity. If something gets added on top, like a pregnancy, something else will have to be dropped and/or taken care of by the partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:51 AM
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What i said was: people who care about their looks are more successful with women. It is factually right, that increasing your attractiveness increases your desirability as a sexual partner and thereby increases your chance to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:21 AM
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middleschool edgelord detected :D
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:49 PM
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For most men the idea of even one woman actively liking you and wanting to be with you is unimaginable. Stop the "most men" bullshit. Most men are in committed relationships and have multiple sexual partners (n>5). If a regular guy said what Tate said then people would laugh at him But people DO laugh at him. He is a clown. The one who don't are also not laughing at average guys saying the same stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:41 PM
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Now you are being the average leftist idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:26 PM
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You do understand that you can exchange goods and services for each other? One doing the dishes, the other doing the lawnmowing, can also be an evenly split workload. One carrying the baby, while the other earns the money for the baby, can also be an equally shared workload
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:20 PM
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You have no moral ground to stand an, so you repeat "rapist" as if that makes you win anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:18 PM
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If you exclude the following:... Then you find that there's no realistic way a women who... What do you mean with "then you find". Where do i find? In personal anecdotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:35 PM
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Women don't typically love like men do. Yes, they do. Love works the same in both sexes. And to maintain a high level of attraction, you need to continue being the guy she fell in love with. No, that is stagnation and not attractive. To maintain a high level of attraction, you need to become the man she will fall in love with again in the future. centred in his masculine purpose empty made up buzzwods.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:06 PM
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How is a "modern relationship" one that isn't 50/50 in all regards?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:49 PM
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I personally don’t care if a rapist has his feelings hurt That is the issue. You might not be a rapist, but you certainly are a shitty person
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:38 PM
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The issue is, that those women "ain't shit" themselves and you don't realize that advising them to have higher standards would lead to no better result in men at their side. you get what you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:32 PM
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"allowed" "justified". Dude, you can do whatever you want. You do not need permission by some reddit "AITA" jury, or anyone else. Want to break up/divorce for whatever reason that seems fine in your view? DO IT.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:09 PM
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I mean... If women can also display those bad behaviors, why exactly there are people spreading out this idea that straight dating is disadvantageous for women? Men can run into women with those bad behaviors too! It's a false and biased idea because it comes from a false assumption that those are the reasons that straight dating is disadvantageous to women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:25 AM
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if you cannot provide the evidence or even just the google search term to find it with a bit of digging, yo uare clearly full of shit. But that was obvious from you other posts too. PURE ideology, zero evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:19 AM
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So they are not in a committed relationship? That is what i said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:18 AM
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How is it relevant if 90% of reddit disagrees with a factually right statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:16 AM
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You also do not sound remorseful but more concerned with insulting me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:14 AM
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Who holds the view that men are obligated to risk their lives for strange women? It's in the freaking law, that nobody is obligated to risk their lives for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:41 AM
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You should probably not take part in online discussions with that low of a reading comprehension, if you think i bragged about hurting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:01 PM
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From the male perspective, yes. You don't know the female perspective and you do not even put in some effort to try to get into their perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:00 PM
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Then it should be easy for you to present the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:59 PM
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female 4 can date a male 8 If 4 means the same in men as i women, then no, she cannot date this man seriously. She can only get fucked by this man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:59 PM
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Men need to stop wanting women based off of how they look lol. never.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:58 PM
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Because "good" doesn't earn anything. Valuable earns things. You apply just world thinking to label my version as just world fallacy. I fucking do not care if her brother is good or bad. He is undesirable for being an autist. That's why he struggles in dating. Regardless of how "good of a person" he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:57 PM
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My USERNAME indicates i am not reasonable? How is that a reasonable assumption to make about a person. Other than that, you are correct about your difference of definition. I do not define settling as not gettign what one wants. That is why i had an "IF" in my initial comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:56 PM
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an average leftist is going to disagree hard. and how is that relevant? Average leftists are completely removed from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:52 PM
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Compressing any set of complex behaviors into a single data point is specious. No, you are just no aware that his is possible and i fucking hate it that you are so ignorant instead of asking me HOW. Overview of Multidimensional Scaling (MDS) Multidimensional Scaling (MDS) is a technique used to visualize the level of similarity or dissimilarity between a set of objects. The goal of MDS is to place each object in an N-dimensional space such that the distances between the objects in this space mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:48 PM
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Looksmaxxers are called incels because they think women prioritize looks, not for looksmaxxing itself. But they do prioritize looks, and people who care about their looks are more successful with women. Putting effort into one's appearance is pretty much the opposite of inceldom. As i said, i never heard someone being called an incel for caring about that. I only see incels being called incels, regardless of how they see caring for attractiveness. Those studies deal mostly with patients who suff…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:40 AM
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That was not the point. It's about what is currently in fashion regarding first dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:12 AM
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Cheers! "No one should remove options" is the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:10 AM
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Because they apparently are more attractive short term partners than her brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:10 AM
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Well, first of all, you’re reducing a very complex set of behaviors into a single data point, No, the data point consists of as many values or descriptions as you'd like. Secondly, mating behavior pre- and post- agriculture are vastly different from each other, Yes, but still way closer to each other than what we do today. Birth control is MASSIVE. Being together with many different people in committed relationships over hte course of a life instead of just one, is massive. Being to gether for "…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:08 AM
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You you define it the same way. settling as accepting someone who is less ideal than you dreamt of == think you can do better (whether that is correct or not)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:00 AM
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That would be singling out a large number of women. That's fine though. If you regard anything more than 5% of women relationships candidates, i think you are desperate. Women are always going to marry men with higher incomes On average? Probably. But that is not what we are talking about. There already are a sizeable amount of marriages where the woman is the breadwinner, and a small minority of stay at home dads. If you are this type of man, go be in this type of marriage. There are few men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:58 AM
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Men, for the most part, cannot imagine that the female situation really is shit either. it's not HARD, as OP claimed, but it's really a bad experience overall. That's why women overwhelmingly hate online dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:53 AM
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Autists are not average normal people. In any generation. The severely diverge from being normal in the aspects that are more relevant for social relationships. Why i even need to tell you this is beyond comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:57 PM
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that he still deserves an amazing wife. No, he doesn't, Partners are earned, not deserved. There is a reason why he doesn't have a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:53 PM
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As i said : matches have no values for us. You do not understand. Not getting ANY match, would destroy your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:46 PM
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I DO NOT ARGUE FOR WHY!!!! ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID?!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:44 PM
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WHich of the two studies i posted did you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:28 PM
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Sins? :D Are you a religious nutjob?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:50 PM
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I just changed over time and experienced different people, different environments, myself in different situations. "i don't need a study". Yes you do. This is one of those things where you would change your mind if you actually went through the process of reading the science. "i never thought i should read a study on predicting behavior in certain situations because i was sure i just know it, but then i realized how all teh people in the study thought so as well and they were mostly wrong".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:48 PM
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So swiping 100 women to the right, even the unattractive ones, and not getting a single match after days of waiting for them to possibly swipe back, is somehow not different for the ego, from matchign with 2/3 of the men you find attractive and possibly want to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:46 PM
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I don't justify rape at all. I condemn it. I just explain how people end up raping who thought they would never rape someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:32 PM
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Cheating for everyone is excuseable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:31 PM
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You are wrong. Please, read the studies as a starter into that topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:30 PM
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It was my first night of having sex ever. After the initial two rounds of sex we spooned, i fingered her slightly while her back was turned towards me. She fell asleep during that and i did not notice that. When she became increasingly wet, i took that as a sign that she is horny and wants to fuck. Stuck my dick in and after a while she started moving. Only learned the next day that i woke her up with sex and she was asleep at first. She felt very violated and i felt very sorry. Still, rape is r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:28 PM
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isn't that what all the true crime stuff is about? Should be plenty of material to consume. Unless you have specific persona lquestions that you think nobody else has asked rapists on tape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:24 PM
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I am not projecting my weaknesses to others. I posted studies about how people are not able to predict their actions in the future in certain situations. But of course you far smarter person haven't read the studies. Probably never read a study in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:23 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHA! You accuse me of shifting the goal post and then you shift what "providing" means. Done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:21 PM
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It's amazing what you can learn about a person by just reading their comments. In your case, you are an insecure sensitive niceguy who doesn't want to do anything wrong and desperately looks for guidance by women on how to behave to be pleasant for them. Contradicting info is stressful to you and you cannot distinguish what to follow, because oyu are this insecure. So you comment in a way to trigger "gotcha moments" that will help you find out what you should really do. You know what signals low…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:19 PM
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Would be over quite fast: i didn't know she wasn't awake and didn't know women can get wet while asleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:12 PM
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To quote you from another thread: Nah, sorry. Advice women give are 9 out of 10 times useless. And I'm not saying this out of malice. How come you changed to "believe when women post stupid dating advice shit on social media without scrutiny" so quickly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:35 PM
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how old are you? <image> https://bumble.com/date/seasonal/coffee-date https://www.eharmony.ca/dating-advice/getting-to-know/coffee-date/ https://www.thecut.com/2018/07/the-best-first-date-is-a-boring-coffee-date.html https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-advice/coffee-date/ I can go on forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:26 PM
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If you don't contribute to your relationship financially, you're not going to have a relationship for very long. I genuinely can't fathom how anyone can be so wrong yet so confident. You can perfectly well cover all financial aspects of yourself in a relationship and your partner covers all their financial aspects. You do only provide for yourself. This is not a gender role. EVERYBODY is expected to provide for their partners. [...] That's literally what a 50:50 relationship is. I genuinely can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:22 PM
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A leg to stand in here? It's part of the argument, part of the leg to stand on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:17 PM
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I am not justifying anything. I am only pointing out to you, that people are BAD A PREDICTING WHAT THEY WILL DO. HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO I NEED TO REPEAT THAT TO YOU? Nature is not joking, sadly. I'd rather laugh about your lack of reading comprehension and reasoning abilities, than realizing you are probably an average man, and i am surrounded by what feels like idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:13 PM
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There is no equivalent widespread male infanticide because men are perceived as more valuable. Men are more valued by society What society are you speaking of? We default to a WEIRD country society, like USA, when taling in this sub. There obviously are other societies with female infanticide. This is not an issue in WEIRD countries, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:47 PM
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Male gender expectations now apply equally to everybody, NO! JESUS CHRIST! The male gender role was to provide for and protect their partner. This role is broken up with and this behavior is now optional. What applies to everyone is PROVIDING AND PROTECTING THEMSELVES, not their PARTNERS. Learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:43 PM
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Again, how old are you? Not believing everything you hear or read is not the same as treating everything you read or hear as a lie. You have to find out if something is a truth or a lie by yourself. That is part of being an adult. Understanding motivations helps at figuring out truths and lies. having real life interactions with people, as opposed to only social media interactions helps to get a background to compare information to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:41 PM
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It's not my lack of discipline. I even gave you a start to read the science on it. Maybe read Dan Ariely's book "Predictably Irrational: The Hidden Forces That Shape Our Decisions"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:37 PM
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. Are you saying we shouldn't believe those women? That is the essence of not being a naive child, yes. You are not meant to believe everything you read, even if it is from REAL people. Are you serious? You don't know to not believe everything others say on the internet or in real lfie? How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:35 PM
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.but you WILL lose out hard to other men who continue to be masculine. Lose out hard to other men over women you don't want to be with in the first place. Go be with a woman who doesn't want to be provided for or doesn't require it. Be with a woman who breaks female gender roles and wants to provide and protect her man. You win over men who want to provide for those women BIG TIME.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:33 PM
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The last time I checked people who refuse to work end up homeless as well as those who refuse to protect themselves ending up very dead. Providing and protecting YOURSELF is not a gender role. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:31 PM
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And more and more women are saying Didn't you get that the first time you read it? What is your source on that? What you FEEL when you consume your super biased and cherry picked social media stream which exists in itself only to provoke and cause emotional engagement, not as a source of truth? bUt WhEr'S yOuR eViDeNcE" is not changing those facts Your facts are not representative of the population. They are anecdotes, and possibly not even real ones. What people post on social media is first an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:29 PM
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But the women are not matching with men. Just because those women exist, doesn't make dating apps easy for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:26 PM
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I also said i would never rape. Then i raped the first woman i had sex with. I also said i would never take drugs. Then i took all the drugs. I also said i would never enjoy casual sex. Then i got an n count of 50, 10 years later. I also said i could never cheat on a girlfriend. Then i had an affair with her best friend. im sure most men are like this. Most people are bad at estimating what they would do, just as i said. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/bdm.501 https://www.science…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:23 PM
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"Believe Women" is a conspiracy to profit from destroying men and feminist establishment is party to it. So, we should believe you without evidence now? I really thought you would at least be better than random accusations that trigger emotional reactions and lead to a court of public opinions without looking at the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:15 PM
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Without laws against murder, we'd all probably start killing each other. No, we don't. <image> Most people are not going to assault anyone. We don't need laws to stop people from murdering. We need laws to keep the ones who are above the threshold for murder locked away, after they have revealed themselves to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:07 PM
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we don't want to have more children. Deal with your mental health issues privately with a therapist, and not by forcing the whole of society to do something it doesn't want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:05 PM
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self-sabotaging
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:58 AM
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I never understood how the red pill can cling to concepts like "alpha widow", and at the same time talk about the wall and 21yo women having the highest market value. Basically "every man" once had a "21yo girlfriend" and that relationship ended. Either, the 31yo woman he has children with later, somehow, miraculously, is higher value than that 21yo, breaking red pill logic, or basically all men are alpha widowers, unable to have fullfilling relationships after that highly desirable 21yo gf got …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:56 AM
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hiding something" (like wives) Yes, for example. I just gave out a fake instagram account to set up a date with a woman whom i didn't want to reveal my real age nor relationship status to, which would be obvious from a real account. Just be one step ahead. i don't get it, i just don't like it, idk by women are repulsed by me not wanting all my business out there. i don't want hundreds/thousands of people to be able to contact me whenever they want. i appreciate my privacy. You can set it up as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:46 AM
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When you say "hard for women" you actually mean "it takes time to swipe left on all the men women don't like and talk to all the men until they can be filtered out for not being good matches". There ARE men with careers, grooming, emotional intelligence and relationship goals on the apps, and women DO match with them and they DO get into relationships with them. This is not hard, it's time consuming. It's HARD for men, as in: 60% of men on dating apps cannot get a relationship with a woman from …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:36 AM
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I don’t understand. On Reddit everyone advises to say to the women who gained weight that you love her the way you are. Really? You do not understand how people advise in self interest? You do not understand that the same people who give this advice do not want to be broken up with, when they gain 10kg? They do not want to live in a world where they have to accept that love IS conditional and they DO have to provide something for the other person in order to be loved by them. You do not understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:28 AM
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Men here say they would never rape. People are bad at estimating what they would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:12 AM
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However more and more women are considering coffee dates to be a low standard. What is your source on that? What you FEEL when you consume your super biased and cherry picked social media stream which exists in itself only to provoke and cause emotional engagement, not as a source of truth? But also women have consistently said they don't want to be bothered and left alone Same source as above? . Often on dating subs are even on dating profiles themselves they will not accept a high or hello as …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:07 AM
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Show us the data, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:58 AM
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Where guys go wrong us they just putting out effort for no nuts and don't even really do an analysis of how much untill their burnt out and frustrated. Men need to set a baseline exchange rate and make sure women are sticking to it. If you burn out and get frustrated, you are dating outside your league. Date within your league, and she will exchange sex for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:55 AM
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Liberating men from gender roles does not mean the men want to perform those gender role anymore. Just as there are women who want to live traditional gender roles, despite being liberated. Men love to provide and protect. Liberation from this role does not mean that men want to stop doing them. It means they don't HAVE to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:43 AM
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The percentages for divorce is sky high. What are you talking about? Both the crude divorce rate as well as the refined divorce rate are at a 40 year low point, and it has been falling for 40 years straight. I believe all of these factors and many more contribute to the divide. What is this divide you speak of? 70%+ of men and women aged 30-45 are in committed relationship with each other, at any given point in time. Many more (~15%) are in committed relationships for at least some time in this …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:40 AM
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Why do you care what other men want to put up with? Just like no woman should've to tolerate men with ED Enjoy getting older and hoping women will tolerate you with your ED.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:52 AM
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Men are equally effected by trusting attractive people, while they make others jump through hoops to prove it. That is the human condition. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:49 AM
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Either both people should he traditional, or the woman should let the man also be modern, but expecting only one side to be traditional either way is unfair. Modern women do not expect men to provide for them. They have their own jobs or careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:48 AM
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Do you think it should be mandatory No. It should be optional. People want to live the life they make up in their head.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:43 AM
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Imagine, some men even do have female friends they are not in the friendzone with, but just regular friends with, and who they do not want to use to get to know other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:42 AM
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Women call looksmaxxers incels I am looksmaxxing. Never been called an incel, because i am not an incel. Incels get called incels, regardless of if they looksmaxx or not. According to studies it works Care to show me those studies? If oyu are right, i owe you an apology. Most male looksmaxxing comes down to discipline, not financial investment. Most? Gym membership, supplements, protein powder, all the skincare products, going to the barber/hairdresser regularly, clothing & shoes, accessoires an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:34 AM
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That is factually wrong. But i am open to see your evidence for your claims. Do you have any?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:25 AM
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How does going outside prove the data is wrong? What is going outside show you about reality that is in opposition to the data?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:25 AM
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Of course we never stop evolving. That is why i said "Today, we are as far from our behavior in our evolutionary past as we have ever been". All of our past up until the last couple of thousands of years has been more similar, with regards to how mating went. If you gathered a datapoint regarding mating behavior every 100 years and then did a Non-metric Multidimensional Scaling graph on it, you would see all the datapoints clumb up pretty thightly, except for the datapoints for the last couple o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:23 AM
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less than they think they deserve Foreveralone guys are neither average nor do they have a realistic idea of what they deserve/should be able to get. Ask yourself - would you really want to commit to dating someone if you knew they were only settling for you? If you define settling as accepting someone who is less ideal than you dreamt of all your life, then we are all settling and the answer is yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:09 AM
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do everything but kiss. While single girls will reject quickly, Sample size 20?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:05 PM
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There's a substantial number of men who are adamant that Zendaya is unattractive and looks like a man No there isn't. Picking up 100 comments on an instagram post is not a substantial amount of men, it's not representative of the general public, so you can't get to what the silent masses think about Zendaya, and it's also most likely just not true, but posted for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:52 PM
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The average womans idea of a unattractive man is usually the average man One filters out 20% of women, the other filters out 80% of men. You just perfectly well explained why dating sucks for women. Imagine going through a world where 80% of women are unattractive to you, and you cannot compete with all other women for the 20% of men who are attractive. It's a terrible situation to be in. 80% of women are either forced to be with an unattractive man or to be the fucktoy of a man who doesn't want…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:50 PM
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Where the fuck do you see pushback against male looksmaxxing? Your ridiculous dickmaxxing is being pushed against, because it's not working and just ripping off gullible insecure men. Looksmaxxing is literally the name of the game of the 21st century. the body is THE status symbol of our time. I am literally getting the most support ever right now, for improving my body and looks. it detracts from the time he could instead be spending contributing to the economy, which is what society wants from…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:36 AM
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It's the other way round. Red pill is evo psych for dummies, mixed with ideology of angry incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:28 AM
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First off, the “state of nature” argument structure went out of fashion after like 1800 because it’s stupid. Also, it doesn’t even hold up since we’re not lions and ancient humans mostly lived in monogamy and that monogamy was mostly through arranged marriages. First off, biology doesn't go out of fashion. You cannot argue your way out of evolutionary facts. Today, we are as far from our behavior in our evolutionary past as we have ever been, and men still fight each other over access to women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:26 AM
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The vast majority of women's life's ARE worse if single. That is why 70% of women are currently in relationships with men, and many more % are looking for that and going to be in relationships in the near future, while others become single again and go looking for relationships with men. How bad should women's single life be, that being with an abusive loser who is a financial leech and general asshole, is still better than being single? How is this "fair"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:16 AM
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Is that your reaction when you can't argue with facts anymore? We do have the cohabitation data. We do have marriage data. We do have data on people in committed relationships. It's impossible that any relevant number of women are sharing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:05 AM
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Preferential treatment of women "to make up for past injustices" is not equity, it's reversing the power dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:04 AM
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Women are just as lonely as men. Men are just as much in relationships as women. Only a tiny fraction of men have the traits that will get them into jail. The overwhelming majority of men will never have to worry about jail or jail time. When 2% of the male population are i prison, you don't have a 2% chance to get into prison. You likely have a 0.000x% chance to get into prison, while a tiny fraction of men have a very high chance to go to prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:02 AM
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So probably features that encourage people to be more sincere, or features that help boost women’s sense of safety or certainty in choosing to go on a date with a stranger, etc Why would the app boost women's sense of safety about going on a date with a stranger? THis is NOT safe. The app cannot make it safe or guarantee for it, so why would they make women feel more safe about it than they should? You can't make dating safe in my opinion. How would such a feature look like, in your view? I coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:13 PM
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How do gamified features make people not show up to dates and remain single this way? Swiping on apps doesn't make you not go to dates. It keeps you swiping while on the date, sure, it keeps you swiping while in a relationship, sure. But it doesn't keep people miserable and single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:07 PM
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Yes i do have much free time on my hands. My gf is making dinner behind me, while i enjoy your salty tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:05 PM
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If it's nasty or not is not the debate we have. It's about pain. I am 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:05 PM
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And lube is somehow not available to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:03 PM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:02 PM
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But they don't share top tier men. They are married to them or live with them exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:01 PM
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We were conditioned to believe that women are inherently sweet, nurturing, and always looking for their one true love. Dude, you conditioned yourself by consuming a very limited type of media with a very narrow and homogeneous view of women, men, relationships, love, etc. You consumed that because you wanted this depiction of relationships. Then you are shocked how your worldview is formed by the only views you consumed and exposed yourself with. You brainwashed yourself in the face of reality. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:23 PM
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What do you mean by fair? Equality of outcome is not fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:06 PM
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So you do complain about how women say there are no good enough men, when they limit themselves by having those standards, AND NOT ACCEPTING YOU AS AN OPTION....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:04 PM
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How do they care more about keeping people single and unhappy? What do they do to promote this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:59 PM
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What does "why are you rubbing me" mean in this context? I am not a native speaker and i don't suspect she was rubbing his dick while hugging.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:58 PM
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What is a female friendly feature that is in line with gender equality and discrimination views of western, feminist societes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:54 PM
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That would require there to be waaaay more male 10s than female 10s. Do you think this is true? or how are all the female 9s and 10s together in committed relationships with male 10s?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:49 PM
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Reality is your example. Men are more interested in things than people, compared to women. Being interested in things gets shit done when you need to dig a well to get water, when you need an irrigation system for your crops, when you need to build a shelter, when you need to hunt, etc. Men are better at surviving because they are interested in the things that make survival more probable. Their bodies are better at doing the things that are required. Yes, they also take more risks and are more p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:47 PM
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The apps have a bad reputation because of people not willing to attribute their failures to their own person. The apps are great. People just think they are deserving more than they are. Lots of men who think they deserve to have a casual sex life. Lots of women who think they deserve men committing to them, instead of just wanting sex from them. What exactly does the app do, to get a bad reputation? It's the people who treat each other in a way that has nothing to do with the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:42 PM
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A delightful personality will make a girl fall for him, IF HE FUCKING TALKS TO WOMEN (who are on his level, regarding mate value).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:38 PM
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But men and women don't agree on how to rate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:16 PM
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You clearly see in the graph, that men are rated less attractive than women. It's impossible that there are the same amounts of 8s in men and women, unless male 8s are less attractive than female 8s. At which point, you should start talking about percentiles of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:15 PM
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Apps profit of the surplus of men who think they can increase their chances by paying. But in the end, they pay because people DO get relationships and casual sex from the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:14 PM
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But happy couples lead to people wanting to do the same. Happy success stories off of dating apps are what keeps generating return customers and people who want that success too. If nobody would have success, nobody would use the apps. Most new relationships start online. Part of that is from dating apps. Dating apps work. But when there are 70% men and 30% women, most of the men cannot, mathematically, pair off with a woman from the apps. There is no ill intent from the apps. That is just math.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:13 PM
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Alright, so the male 10s and female 10s are off the market then, or would just date each other if single. Who are the female 9s settling for? You see how this game plays out. There are no female 2s who can settle for male 4s. The male 4s are with female 4s, because that is the best both can get and nobody needs to date a 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:11 PM
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How is it not female friendly when they take the money from men instead of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:59 PM
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What would change your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:58 PM
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Ha ha ha, we all know it's shit. No black pill content, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:54 PM
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Reddit's r/truerateme has a vastly different view on the distribution of people on the scale. https://imgur.com/true-rate-me-mens-rating-guide-soZ3OuP And you will find as many different views on that as there are people. So why are we so confident, when we talk about a 6, that we all know what the commenter means? It's absolutely subjective and not fixed on anything. People can't even agree on what an average man looks like. People are notoriously bad at judging themselves. Most people put them…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:51 PM
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When women rate a man an average of 6 and men rate him an 8, who is right about how attractive that man is? I never said that they have the same scale of attractiveness, I said they share the same rating system. Using the same scale, doesn't mean that there are the same amounts of 8s in both sexes. It just means the scale goes from 1 to 10 in both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:46 PM
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It is substantially different. One requires an abortion, the other not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:44 PM
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It doesn't reduce social value. It's yellow flag that signals: this is highly indicative of her being lower mate value than you. You should double and triple check her value compared to yours and her motivation for showing direct signs of sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:42 PM
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I played videogames religiously from 8 to 36 years old. Main hobby, several hours daily. I don't even think that this is a healthy hobby for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:53 PM
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Every man is competition. Some for me, some for other men. Getting an increasingly uneven population size of men and women for the respective dating demographics definitely leads to problems. That doesn't lead me to any political stance though. There is an immigration problem regardless of sex. But the bulk of those immigrants don't play in my dating arena.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:43 PM
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And where do you get that men and women have the same distribution of attractiveness? And who is right about male attractiveness: men or women? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:29 PM
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Of course it's inconsistent. Everyone defines the scale differently and no majority agrees on how many % of the population are 10s. What is your position? How many % of the population are 10s in men and in women respectively?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:27 PM
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What is an inappropriate moment for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:25 PM
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Do you mean if men can be friends with women without WANTING to fuck them sooner or later? No. Unless they didn't choose that friend themselves and it's just a "part of the group" friend. Are there exceptions? Sure, a few. Can they be friends without actually fucking? Sure. I don't care if friends of my gf WANT to fuck her. And if you care about if others want to fuck your SO, you should have a look at yourself and the trust that you have in your SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:23 PM
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“Senior year, Jim fixed up a Mustang with his dad over the summer and then Jenny wanted to date him, the key to finding a girlfriend is getting a Mustang” said by a 30 year old Red Piller on Reddit 12 years later It absolutely is like that. Most of the autists who post here seem to have stopped having any meaningful social contacts after highschool and they still use highschool-esque dynamics in their thinking and examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:08 PM
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So a 5 would be better than 50% an 8 would be better than 80% etc. That is not how the scale is defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:06 PM
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How do you know there are equal number of male 7s and female 7s?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:05 PM
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Is the whole idea of a scale not to be a bell curve? So 5s are the most common, 0s and 10s are the least common? No, there was never any agreement on what the 1-10 scale looks like. Also, even if it should be a bell curve, there is no reason that it's centered on 5 (or 5.5). And there is no reason to assume that women and men are centered on the same value. It's very possible that women have a mean of their distribution that is higher than that of men. Nobody agrees upon how rare, what percentag…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:04 PM
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There is no definition of what a 7 is. Take it as 70th percentile of average rated attractiveness by 10000 judges. Then, 7s do mate with 7s on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:01 PM
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My reality is fact based, on the total population, not some biased bartender experience on a biased subsample. You can try to attack the facts instead of my person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:54 AM
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1988 is not the era that "70% of people are in relationships" fact is from. That is today. Current couples in their 30s who mostly met online.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:54 AM
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It's even higher for men and women in their 30s. I am 40, i exclusively dated via online dating in the last years. Current gf is from Bumble. You don't know what you are talking about. That high percentage of couples IS current era with current dating types and methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:52 AM
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United States - 74.1% New Zealand - 71.6% Australia - 70.4% United Kingdom - 68.4% Greece - 67.4% Mexico - 66.7% Canada - 65.7% Spain - 65.4% Germany - 64.9% Chile - 64.5% Finland - 64.1% Ireland - 63.7% Argentina - 63.1% Russia - 62.5% Norway - 62.1% France - 61.9% Netherlands - 61.2% Italy - 60.7% Belgium - 60.5% Turkey - 60.3% Portugal - 59.8% Brazil - 59.6% South Africa - 59.3% Sweden - 58.9% Austria - 58.3% Japan - 57.9% South Korea - 57.6% Denmark - 56.8% Switzerland - 56.2% Israel - 55.9%…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:50 AM
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THE HEART SAYS CHAD? are you fucking serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:48 AM
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Of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:47 AM
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Why do you think sex happens rarely? Average is 2-3 times per week
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:47 AM
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Your sphincter can accomodate a regular penis without pain. You just don't want to ease your way into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:46 AM
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Who do female 10s settle for?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:45 AM
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Then lets switch it to same rank when rank ordered for attractiveness. Or percentiles, if that is more to your liking. If you are 10th percentile, go for 10th percentile women, regardless of if you or they think you or they are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:44 AM
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Point being, shit being old doesn't mean shit is wrong. Try pulling recent research that shows things have changed, regarding homogamy and preferneces for similarity. Or try making an argument for why things have changed. As far as i see it, all things point to people becoming MORE similar in relationships, concerning the typical homogamy traits. Hypergamy regarding education and earning is in decline in the West. Age gaps have shrunk to a pretty stable all-time-low. From 2024: https://www.cambr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:05 PM
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Ah right, the 70% of women and men who are in committed relationships right now are all (with) " the same sporty, outgoing, extroverted, frat types" Not. Your fucking experience as a bartender doesn't capture reality. Most men are overweight. At least half of men are not extraverted to any meaningful degree, and basically nobody in a realtionship is a frat-type. Yet, they all have women who are so into them, that they want to spend their lives with them. I never saw a sorority girl have a thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:25 PM
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Spit on whatever you insert. Control your reflexes. How is that something i need to spell out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 11:32 AM
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I'm curious if you think guys being hung up on high n-count women being "used goods" have the Madonna Whore complex though No that is something completely different. Ok then I'm talking about the phenomenon of seeing people as just for sex and seeing them as respected long term partner material. That is of course not gendered. Short term relationship (sexual nature) and long term relationship have different requirements for partners, in men and women. Then there is also the topic of relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:14 AM
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Exactly, and it doesn't matter if something passes in or out, it has to stretch to the same size.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:06 AM
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yes, most people on this board wrongly treat the complex as if it's the standard thinking of men. No, it's a rare condition. it is very much gendered: Freud argued that the Madonna–whore complex was caused by a split between the affectionate and the sexual currents in male desire.\5]) Oedipal and castration anxiety fears prohibit the affection felt for past incestuous objects from being attached to women who are sensually desired: "The whole sphere of love in such persons remains divided in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:21 AM
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<image> Also, stated preferences vs revealed preferences regarding education and earning potential/wealth shows, that men undererstimate and women overestimate the importance of these traits in a potential partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:12 AM
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The madonna-whore complex is not common or normal. It has nothing to do with power. Please don't use an established term for something completely different. Your analysis of some men's dating issues doesn't require you to use the madonna-whore complex. Losing attraction to a long term partner is not the madonna-whore complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:00 AM
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What increases how good you are in bed more? A ONS with a new sex partner, or the 501th time of having sex with your long term relationship partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:02 AM
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I've always had difficulty reading and connecting with people. Ah classic. You try to get from an average value of the population to what you can expect for the individual, that is not representative of that population. It's pointless, dude. You are you. Others join a book club and leave with 5 friends. You can join 10 book clubs and leave with 0. There is no way to get a basic idea of the amount of time you will need to put in. If people don't like you and you don't like talking to people, it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:42 AM
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How do you determine if someone has no options, or if someone doesn't do anything to have options?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:20 AM
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Same thing for what the ring muscle experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:20 AM
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How come introverted men seem less attractive to women than extroverted men? <image> It's a trade-off. Extraversion is preferred, but introversion has other reproductive advantages, that leads to it being present in a stable and pretty even balance, or rather distribution. Please don't think of extra-intro as a dichotomy but as a spectrum, with most people falling in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:17 AM
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Can you give exact number for women who agree and disagree and men who agree and disagree? Because i see a mixed bag for female answers as well. Woman: No, because the relationship will probably be boring and I don’t like a boring relationship. Woman: Definitely not. Is your view changed yet? It's not gendered. As per your own experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:45 PM
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Where is that threshold. Who is too undesirable to date? Or is it rather, that you define it in reverse: everyone who doesn't date is too undesirable. You see how that is nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:41 PM
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Is asking out in person the same as asking for number, instagram, etc. in person, but then asking out via online channels?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:33 PM
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The majority of men ARE in dignified relationships. There are no requirements for a dignified relationship. Name ANY of those requirements and i will show you a man who is in a dignifed relationship who doesn't meet that requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:59 PM
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ADAPT.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:27 PM
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Most women who date don’t casually date men that aren’t desirable. Being successful and beautiful is rare, when you have those qualities women chase you. This fact has never changed in the entire course of civilization. Men of all desirability levels date and are in relationships. There is no magical threshold you need to get over to be date-material for women. Each level of desirability is dating their equals. Go outside, check out ugly dudes with ugly girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:24 PM
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So they also just BELIEVE they are cohabitating with their committed partner..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:10 PM
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You fantasize again: i did never say women are obligated to fuck me. Also, i am not your homie.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:09 PM
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Do you define best friend as "having the most fun with"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:06 PM
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You don't seem to feel dirty. Do you feel dirty?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:54 PM
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Who is giving dating advice for 38yo single mothers in this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:50 PM
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By having made the experience in the past. How is your partner dealing with that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:18 PM
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A responsive sexual desire doesn't mean that someone will get turned on once someone starts physically having sex with them. Responsive sexual desire is a type of sexual desire that is typically triggered by external stimuli or the context of a particular situation rather than arising spontaneously. It often occurs in response to sexual or intimate stimuli, such as physical touch, emotional connection, or a partner's sexual advances. Unlike spontaneous sexual desire, which arises without any spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:16 PM
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You think it's reasonable to get the "ick" when a man posts on PPD about "icks" and red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:12 PM
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Then hopefully, you are not in a relationship with a person who wants to have sex with you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:43 AM
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Murder is not bad if you are the good guys and the dead ones are the bad guys. Absurd way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:31 AM
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No, i would not marry someone whom i don't go to if i want to hang out and have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:35 AM
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Cuckolds do get something out of their wives having sex with others. They often are the ones making the wives do that in the first place. That is hardly a "loving someone more" piece of evidence. It's about the cuckolds own sexual pleasure and not about love.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:31 AM
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I'm of the opinion that very few women are attracted to total peace in a relationship. It kind of makes sense. You are wrong. The majority of women are securely attached and do not crave chaos and drama in their relationship. They crave stability, peace, harmony. It might be your own attachment style that talks here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:29 AM
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Oh yes, make something harder to get that already is on the decline regarding being wanted at all. That totally solves something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:25 AM
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The error you make is to think that women are choosing in relationships and that all women could choose a top % man. People pair off into relationships with their equals. The top 10% of men does so with the top 10% of women, the bottom 10% of women does so with the bottom 10% of men. Mutual mate choice. Assortative mating. "but...but.. all women just date Chad", no, 63% of young women are in committed relationships, 70%+ of women 30-45yo are in committed relationships. Unless there are 63-70% Ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:20 AM
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What is morally bad is subjective. Niceguys would claim that a guy is morally bad if he is accepting to possibly bother a woman by his advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:59 AM
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You are in pain every time you shit? You should get that checked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:57 AM
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Jesus Christ, you are next level stupid. I shared a meta-analysis that was done via systematic review, which is considered the highest tier of evidence in the hierarchy of evidence. Studies within that analysis explicitly state that your position does not have scientific support and that it is echoed in the meta-analysis itself. Then you probably should accept that i am right. Your evidence: Thoma (1986): Moral reasoning: Stage d = -0.21 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0273…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:52 AM
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The incels don't have a problem with most women wanting good guys. It's that they have a problem with criminals being wanted by women over nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:54 AM
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That is why i am broadening the OP to include the types of desires and the "agreeing to start sexual activities to get into the mood".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:52 AM
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So your example doesn’t follow It does. All I care about is if you agree with the concept though And i don't care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:51 AM
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see, this is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:50 AM
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"bad men" are men who talk to women when and where they want, and don't ask if it's okay if they touch their hand. It's fucking nice guys who complain about bad men. To them, everyone who isn't a door mat is a bad man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:34 PM
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Yes i broadened the topic because OP appears to not know about the types of desire. I am not strawmanning anything. I don't care what others have argued. you are dealing with my posts. Don't make me answer to what others have said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:32 PM
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the trait you are not seeing is on page 585. Be more obscure please. This is a discussion not a scavenger hunt. Either you make your case by naming the trait and making an argument for it, or you fuck off. There is no trait on page 585 that is about "being a terrible person". Did you read it? Yes, i have read plenty of studies that are about men and women being more similar than dissimilar in most traits. That is nothing new. But if you want to make a point about who is on average producing more…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:29 PM
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You aren ot replying to the Op but to me though. Was that an error?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:44 PM
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THe point is to get aroused after starting sexual activity. BEFORE penetration. If arousal doesn't happen, don't progress to penetration. Yes, rejection after having started foreplay will hurt. This is a downside, compared to getting rejected from the start. But overall, if this leads to sex from time to time or most of the time, the greater downside of later rejection is well worth it. Especially because there was a willingness to try. Regularly NOT engaging in sexual activity is destroying int…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:38 PM
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Dude, it's not your inability to internalize gendered behavior. Your autism in itself is the turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:43 PM
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i am the only one providing facts and statistics. YOu still haven't provided ANYTHING on age preferences, except your own perspective. Which is the opposite of facts and statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:13 PM
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then argue with foreplay in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:10 PM
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Not talking about penetration. You should read the fucking source.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:52 PM
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THE INTERNET DOESN'T BREED ANYTHING. It's a bunch of individuals acting in a wide range of different ways that coincide in their own interests and concerns and who don't spend even 30 seconds of their life thinking about "breeding new avenues of propaganda".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:46 PM
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I am not interested in doing lots of good. I want a partner i love and find attractive. Female Bezos is not that. You are a golddigger and Bezos tried to not fall for women like you. That's probably a reason why he didn't go for a young woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:22 PM
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HOW is that power? Power over whom? The Chad who is not going to commit to her? The Chad who controls everything in this relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:40 AM
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I don't need an argument to reject your fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:38 AM
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No, as long as it has no effect on them. If you hate women but do not act on that hate, there is no difference between hating and not hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:38 AM
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Do you have reading comprehension problems or are you dishonest? You edited your post about your stance on Bezos. Not interested in this kind of dishonest arguments. Be annoying to people somewhere else. And I’d deeply doubt any man who stated they wouldn’t jump at the chance to become a billionaire through marriage. I wouldn't marry female Bezos.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:37 AM
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You are degrading women who enjoy anal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:35 AM
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Except we BOTH know he could if he wanted. Hell I would marry him and I don’t like him. He’s richer than God. Oh, so you suddenly turn around on your statement that attractiveness is your most important trait in a mate and that you wouldn't marry a guy who you are not physically attracted to, and that old men just don't look as good as young men... interesting. What to do with you, when you flip flop on your arguments if it suits you? First, singular examples can be anything. It's pointless to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:24 AM
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Read the fuckign study. All the answers to your questions are in there. You are annoying. Either you take part in this debate willing to learn something, change your mind, or you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:42 AM
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That you have no idea about this just became apparent. What is the largest object you can put in your ass without pain?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:40 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:37 AM
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OK? this changes nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:36 AM
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You're a man. You're trying to explain why anal sex is good for women but I've yet to see men argue this hard for pegging. Because they are afraid to come off as gay. Because they don't like the switch of roles. Because there is stigma around it. Because they are not used to get penetrated. Multiple reasons. Anal sex would actually be much more fun for you because you have a prostate. You keep repeating it, but it's not true. I have tried everything, from prostate vibrators, dildos, fingers, any…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:36 AM
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If arousal doesn't happen, the partner can still stop the process. THe point is to give it a chance to get aroused by starting the sexual process, instead of waiting until there is spontaneous desire in both partners. Dead bedrooms come from people waiting until both are spontaneously in the mood. Which happens rarely, if one partner is high in responsive desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:04 AM
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The study does not look at any trait that is linked to being a terrible person, other than aggression. So why is the study relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:02 AM
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Old fashioned women don’t consider caring about a man being a provider “shallow.” Neither do old-fashioned men Speculation. Parents want their daughters to marry a doctor. It’s looks women don’t like to admit they care so deeply about. No, it's the opposite. They care less about it than they report. Did you even read the study? Do you want to walk through the entire list of the top 20 richest men and their wives with me? Please, read the fucking study i linked. Realized marriages are not preferr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:59 AM
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I am using the wording of the commenter who claimed that women are more kinky. What they obviously meant was "on average". Science class? You just argued "there are exceptions" as if that would make it not true that women on average are less kinky. Of course there are exceptions. That is why we use means instead of anecdotes of singular women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:27 AM
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What is the majority of your point? That women will resent their men? I just argued that they will get aroused and want to have sex once they started. SO all of your point is dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:23 AM
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It would have really helped to introduce the concepts of spontaneous desire and responsive desire for this discussion. Spontaneous Desire vs. Responsive Desire In the context of human sexuality, spontaneous desire and responsive desire are two distinct ways individuals may experience sexual arousal and interest. Spontaneous Desire: This is the type of sexual desire that occurs seemingly out of nowhere, without any particular trigger or stimulus. It can be thought of as a sudden, intrinsic urge t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:18 AM
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The scenario is very real. YOu just don't want to accep that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:15 AM
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other autists do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:13 AM
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The point is, that the arousal will happen. https://drelizabethperri.com/spontaneous-and-responsive-sexual-desire/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:10 AM
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WHat do you not understand about "women as a whole"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:51 AM
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THere is no pain and domination is not the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:47 AM
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So sucking a dick is also homosexual sex? Kissing is homosexual? Having anal sex does not take away from all the trembling orgasms achieved from clitoral stimulation. You can even do it WHILE getting your ass fucked. Women have had orgasms from anal sex. They seem to greatly enjoy it. The mental stimulation of being a bad girl who gets fucked in the ass is not to be neglected. Taboo is a great stimulant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:46 AM
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Don't use singular celebrity examples to prove a trend. That is bullshit. We can do the same thing in reverse. Anecdotes are not helping your point. You just admitted, that it's not socially accepted that women are shallow in their statements about mate preferences, yet you claim it's totally accepted and not influenced by social desirability, when women say they value wealth in their mate. SUPER shallow. As for age, even in self reports women starting in their thirties want younger men. In thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:37 AM
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She limits her options by only doing missionary. What you are sure she will try is not relevant. I'll take her seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:31 AM
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this confirms that men are more physically and verbally aggressive than women. There is nothing in it about "being terrible people" otherwise. Do you care to cite what you want to use as evidence for your claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:30 AM
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Explain to me how they differ physiologically that one experiences pain and one not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:26 AM
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you don't have to be an autistic PUA to cold approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:25 PM
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of course not. do you have data on that to support that women are equally capable of being terrible people?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:23 PM
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How would you hold a man responsible? There is no name, no address, no jurisdiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:46 PM
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Women are NOT kinkier than men on the whole. What do you base that ridiculous statement on? Research on sexual behavior and preferences, including kinkiness, indicates that men, on average, report a higher interest in kinky or non-normative sexual activities compared to women. However, this finding is nuanced and can be influenced by factors like social desirability, cultural norms, and the way "kinkiness" is defined in studies. Key Findings: Interest in Kinky Activities: Surveys generally show …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:43 PM
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There is a WORLD of sex between missionary only and BDSM
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:38 PM
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Not at all. Men are way more capable of being terrible people. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:32 PM
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Research consistently shows that, on average, women tend to score higher on measures of empathy than men. This finding is supported by a range of studies across different cultures and age groups. Key Points from the Research: Self-Report Studies: Many studies use self-report questionnaires to measure empathy. Women generally report higher levels of empathy, particularly in emotional empathy (the ability to feel what others are feeling) and empathic concern (the tendency to feel concern for other…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:31 PM
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holy fuck, you have no idea how much you limit your options. Please make that clear from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:14 PM
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No, i would not be in a LTR with a woman who rejects anal sex. It's not painful if done right and if she is too ashamed or not freaky enough for that ,she is not my girl in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:10 PM
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Men use the niceguy trope as well. Because nice guys exist, and they are so unattractive, even men get the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:04 PM
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Do you disagree people tend to report more socially palatable and polite desires than their true desires? Not at all. I am not autistic, but on the harsh truths side, not conforming to social desirability. Those reports are not affected by social desirability though. It's not socially desirable to report putting high value on a man's earning potential. It's not knowing what is really important to oneself and just going by what is often talked about to be more important for men than for women. Or…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:03 PM
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I think you would first need to show how there were more good father figures in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:13 PM
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That shouldn't be socially taboo. It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:31 PM
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Thanks to hypergamy and women only dating 1 out of 10 guys. Even in the age bracket of 18-29, where men tend to not want committed relationships as much as when they are older, 37% of men are in committed relationship and nobody knows how many more are in casual relationships, at any given point in time. Men who go without a relationship from 18-29 are super rare. Men who go without sex to the age of 29 are about 2%. That is basically the asexuals and other severely disabled or mental health cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:24 PM
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Because you don't approach unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:19 PM
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The frequency can be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:18 PM
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Marriages are a compromise of both sexes preferences, on average. Women cannot get their preferences in marriages, so we cannot deduct them from the realized marriages. Couples also form from who happens to be in their life. Just as with friends, similar age is the norm, because those are who you meet in the educational phase and in hobbies, places you hang out, etc. People are poor reporters or their own desires. That’s my point. So, you are not really into younger men, you are just poor at rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:09 PM
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WHAT COMMUNITY?! Where the fuck do you live, that women you cold approach can tell anyone anything about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:01 PM
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That is not about age preferences though. You cannot go from stated preferneces vs revealed prefernecs regarding attractiveness, to the same issue regarding age. Also, who people choose in speed dating situations is hardly a good measure for who they pick for relationships. What can you go by in speed dating, except looks, job and a sentence about passions? If there is no other info, you pick the best of the available info and hope that the traits you really value are there too. No reason to pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:42 AM
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What do you think it's like for men? You think most of their matches are high quality matches? More matchse = higher chance to have a quality match in them. If it's really 1 in 100, then this takes a woman considerably less time to find than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:28 AM
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Behavioral studies? Like, which of these 3 men would you choose experiments? That is still just preferences, what people say they want. If you look at what people actually realize in their relationships, it's a mix of what they want and what they can get and what the other sex wants. But I’ve met women who claim they don’t want a younger man. They tend to be very conservative women who state this. So they want a man who has a nice paycheck. Why is your critique of "self-reports" not working here…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:20 AM
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What did you not get about "men in general" as opposed to "all men"? It's not weird at all that there is a spectrum of preferences and all we can talk about are averages or distributions. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:32 AM
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YOu can go to the ER after you have been date raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:24 AM
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I think what's going on is very obvious: women are incredibly paranoid and frequently suspect being "drugged" when in reality it's just the symptoms of their own voluntary alcohol/recreational drug consumption. Women live on attention. They get a lot of attention for being victims of men who spike their drinks with date rape drugs. They become heroes for bringing attention to this issue on social media. If anyone thinks that some women would not lie to get this level of attention and victim stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:21 AM
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I know there are women who will stay in abusive relationships too, and I feel for them, but honestly most women I know would rather be alone than be mistreated. That was not the question in the thread though. It was about not being able to attract anyone. You can be single and still enjoy casual sex and being desired by men. Ask women who have never been desired by any man, if they want an abusive relationship, and you will get similar responses. And secondly, "most women i know" is not the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:05 AM
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But if you tell men: "don't be nice and friendly. Take what you want, even if it risks offending or bothering someone." They will respond with: but that is not who i am! I can't fake being the assertive guy who is confident and competitive. I want to be loved for me, not for faking an attractive personality/masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:51 AM
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You should not mix up what love is with what relationships are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:37 AM
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Those men just want to highlight the features where they think they differ from other men and are unnoticed for them. Traits they think women want and don't understand why they are not attractive to women for. SO they think it must be because those traits go unnoticed. That's why they are advertised. But obviously it's not the issue of women not noticing those qualities, it's that they notice the stuff that makes those men unattractive enough, so no amount of "good qualities" this man posesses c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:35 AM
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You seem to be high on feminist propaganda and wishful thinking. They brag about her income/titles/achievements basically the same way women do with men NEVER. In my 40 years on this planet, i have never heard a man brag about his woman in any way related to those achievments. It's ridiculous to think that. <image> You see this? Postgrad women are less desirable than college level educated women. Women want men who make more, are better educated and have higher status. Men do want the opposite. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:15 AM
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there is no difference between naturally and artificially happy. It's just about the amount of serotonin in the synaptic gap. That is like saying people who feel good because they spend time with their friends or loved ones are not "naturally happy" because they need to do something to be that happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:06 AM
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If you'd say that black people on average have a lower IQ than white people, then this would be fact and i would have to agree. But if you would apply this in racist hate speech to drive your rejection/ego hurt retaliation crusade, i would call you out for that. I asked only about the concept. You start a debate about a fact. What do you expect? People tell you that women ARE entitled to love? There is nothing to debate here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:01 AM
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Men on this board "demonize" women over 30 so much, because they can. They are not as attracted to them as to younger women, so they feel in a position of power. It doesn't hurt them as much to "reject" them. Also, men in general don't like older women than themselves and the men here are mostly <30yo. To them, 30+ women are no go area, until they become 30+ themselves. It's ridiculous to think, that a majority of men in their late 30s to early 40s would reject women in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:57 AM
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Your argument is wrong. Just because someone can get into a relationship if he is powerful enough, doesn't mean that someone who is average powerful is not getting into a relationship because of his personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:33 AM
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In general I think a lot of men’s internal issues in relationships stem from the fact their hypergamy and need to be dominant are in conflict. Hypergamy in men is not about things they get in conflict with regarding their own value. Men don't pick women who are better at "being men" then they are. (at least on average). And "being men" is meant in a way where their ego could be hurt by losing a competition in this field. Men who want to earn more do not pick a woman who earns more becuase of "we…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:50 AM
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I do understand how even one experience results in a trauma. But i also understand how "looked disappointed" can very much be in your head if you want it to be true. I can see how the stereotype about black men can lead to expectations. That must be tough. Especially for short term sexual relationships, where you might have been selected for that expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:47 AM
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I don't agree with how you will apply it in your specific case to your specific woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:40 AM
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absolutely. That is part of your problem with the current times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:38 AM
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You think there was no degrading sex in traditional relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:38 AM
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Who the fuck are you having sex with, that you get blamed for these things? Is this just in your head? Is this again some dude with body dysmorphia imagining how women ridicule him for a small penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:59 PM
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No, that does NOT show that. How in the FUCK does that show that? It would show that, if that was the ONLY explanation possible for this situation to be the result. Is it? Nope. Women can be in relationships with men who are older than 29.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:47 PM
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You are the pedantic one, "well, overweight spans a broad category..." OP DOESN'T LIKE FAT WOMEN. Period. It's absolutely besides the point i was making, how fat exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:45 PM
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You think you are an average guy? Is it just Chads and average guys? Chads are everything, average guys are nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:38 PM
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