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So much bad advice here. You don't have to convince her of anything but she's also not kryptonite. You're at the gym to lift not to worry about whether to talk to her or not so just act cool. When you see her, say hi but don't feel obligated to carry a conversation. Ignoring her or acting like a bitch isn't going to anything except protect your ego. Best case scenario she thinks you're not a weirdo and might introduce you to some other girl in the future. Meanwhile ignoring her or acting like yo…
/r/seduction14/03/22 03:25 AM
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For op. I think your post is spot on 👍🏻
/r/seduction25/06/20 03:59 AM
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I'm going to agree to this. Op, You're going you read this and take offense to it. The offense will make you question yourself. Your questioning will affect your next message. You're next message will not get the response you're looking for. And the cycle will repeat. Instead, i recommend you recognize that you don't need validation from anybody. That maybe you aren't great with women now but now is just a point in time. The sooner you stop taking things personally and needing everything to be e…
/r/seduction25/06/20 03:54 AM
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Nah man you just continue making it about her and not making about you and this problem and it's going to be great. One of the major differences with porn vs real sex is it's really not as much about the penis as it's shown. More kisses and good vibes until you re train your brain to know what healthy normal sex is
/r/seduction28/04/20 04:45 AM
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I'm going to put money on jerking it. Take a break, wake up with strong boners and when you're having sex yet to not get worked up about how strong it is. If you lose your boner stop thinking about it and go down on her or focus on something else. I think being worked up about it makes it worse. She digs you, focus on having good passionate sex instead of thinking about how to have the hardest dong for pound town. I would recommend you not take anything for it first and see if you see any result…
/r/seduction26/04/20 11:42 AM
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You know what's beta? Letting a bunch of virgin keyboard warriors tell you that what you're doing is beta. Who gives a fucking fuck? Go be happy with your lady
/r/seduction06/04/20 02:30 AM
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I think what op is saying is you need to have been approaching girls before this. You can't be never approaching, see ops thread and go "oh great this validates what I've been doing for 2 years now" it's a shift of behavior and he's essentially suggesting to mix it up from time you time. So if you don't approach, go approach 🤦🏻‍♂️
/r/seduction09/11/19 04:12 PM
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Nah. Keep partying. Keep them updated every now and again on where you guys are and what your plans are. If you two are getting laid it's going to be at your place not theirs. Figure out a way for them to want to come over. And also you two should try splitting them up.
/r/seduction30/08/19 09:10 AM
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I think what you're describing as natural game isn't what most people are taught. Sometime back we realized that having the pressure of routines ruined the authenticity of the interactions. And I think people got tired of using the same shit and being called out for it by hot girls every weekend. Natural game these days is using charisma and repeated interactions with flexibility to take it anywhere. But eventually you're going to use a few of the same canned things that you've tested plenty of …
/r/seduction04/08/19 01:06 AM
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Look man its about the journey not the end result. You'll find the right girl if you keep at it but maybe this girl teaches you something about yourself (sounding like she did). The most important thing is to be upfront. The women who've come and gone can sometimes remind you of what it feels like to just be in it with someone and you take that with you where you go. Keeping thinking, keep feeling and be fair to yourself. Might not be her but there are so many lessons, why not develop and live w…
/r/seduction19/06/19 06:06 PM
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You need to the the lead. One or two more times and you're going to be posting here about how she's cold now. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Don't worry about how she's going to respond to you, worry about how you're going to connect with her and make it the best night for both of you. I recommend you put all the drugs and distractions away, think of anything both of you really enjoy, or something she's fucking lit up about. Order a pizza, make a fucking pizza, and have a real moment…
/r/seduction09/06/19 05:29 PM
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Quality post. 💯
/r/seduction01/05/19 01:23 PM
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Don't take it to heart. If it felt forced just own up to it.
/r/seduction10/02/19 03:42 AM
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If you texted me "what are you doing?" I wouldn't have replied the first time
/r/seduction05/02/19 01:03 AM
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She's probably just on Instagram a lot and the people she follows are lame so she watches you. In any case, why do you care so much? Go out again live your life, she'll comment if she finds something interesting and wants to start a conversation.
/r/seduction05/02/19 01:00 AM
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I second this, good thought.
/r/seduction16/01/19 11:16 PM
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Get it all the way to the close and then introduce me to them and I'll take it from there
/r/seduction12/01/19 12:43 PM
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Put a fucking little fedora on your rat and they'll love it and Instagram everything. Next.
/r/seduction12/01/19 06:20 AM
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Your post really makes us want to offer advice and help you. Poor you dude. I guess all the rest of us good looking dudes are going to go out and plough and you can just be sad and watch sister porn and use whatever excuse you want to blame other things for your life not going the way you want. /s Or you know you can: Stop being a bitch Take responsibility for what you can change Invest in yourself Stop victimizing yourself Go out and open
/r/seduction12/01/19 06:18 AM
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Practice? Look at yourself in the mirror more. Watch how your eye changes after certain things. Like when you masturbate, when you do yoga, after a long hike, when you feel inspired, when you're super horny and it's been awhile. Don't just close your eyes to this. Make your weakness your strength
/r/seduction09/01/19 03:07 AM
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Fuck it's like this sub repeats itself forever
/r/seduction05/01/19 09:27 AM
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This is a lesson that helps you the earlier you learn it: when a girl likes a guy who isn't you, it doesn't mean you are unattractive. It just means she (not all women) finds that guy attractive. You do not get to make women attracted to you, but you get to showcase and package yourself and control the experience you have when the two of you are together. There are probably girls in your grade who find you attractive who you don't even talk to or care about and they might be in Reddit upset that…
/r/seduction20/12/18 05:33 AM
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Drop the compliment, don't expect a response and go "ANYWAY... da da durrr (next thing)"
/r/seduction10/11/18 04:55 AM
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It's not luck, you're getting frustrated way too early and you're focusing on results instead of the process. You can come back and complain after you've done 200 and not seeing results. But I'll tell you that approaching the same way over and over again isn't going to suddenly make the interactions better. And if you're approaching differently every time, the sample size you're describing is miniscule. Keep moving forward.
/r/seduction10/11/18 01:29 AM
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There is no magic silver bullet. But the reactions that op was getting were ignores. This suggested that he's not coming in strong enough or that he wasn't aware or empathetic to the situation. If it's the end of the night and women are simply not responding to your observation openers, I recommended coming in from left field with something more playful. That's all. That's my way of shaking things up so that I'm not banging my head on a wall over and over trying to open the same way with the sam…
/r/seduction07/11/18 11:42 PM
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Whether that's the case or not, it's important to accept that women are not going to look at you until they determine you are cool. And why should they? Do you give attention to ugly/fat girls who give you compliments? Every set is assumed that you don't have any advantage and that you're going to need to win the set over. You seem to already know this stuff so I'll spare this thread a pity party and just wish you the best of luck. Keep at it!
/r/seduction07/11/18 10:16 AM
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All theories. Go try. I think it's obvious that it's not what you say but how you say it. Either way I'm betting it's better than the how are you opener. Also can try cold reading frames like "I can tell by your earrings that you recently found your soul and true purpose while traveling South East Asia. What are you doing here in Chesterfordshire? And where are your elephant pants?"
/r/seduction07/11/18 08:46 AM
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I don't get the sense that you're calibrated at all. These girls have had to deal with 50 dudes tonight and you're commenting on ear rings. I think day game approaches make more sense for this but especially at the end of the night, focus on fun. For every hey how's your evening? Try at least one "hi I'm the next idiot of the evening"
/r/seduction06/11/18 11:46 PM
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It sounds like inner game dawg. Your outlook on yourself is poor and so what do you think girls get when they interact with you? I do suggest making a list of things you want experience before the end of the year that would really make it a great year. The GF thing is over, let go of that shit and focus on what to look forward to in your life. More girls, great experiences, cool friends, a trip, whatever it is. The more progress you see in those goals, the better you'll feel. As for the ladies, …
/r/seduction29/10/18 10:19 AM
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If you develop the confidence and ability to walk up to him and say "hello, I'm ravengirl", you will be drowning in older men. I promise. Do it 5 times as I bet you you'll get results. Just a caution, still be smart about screening him. A lot of creeps out there.
/r/seduction29/10/18 08:16 AM
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I guess I didn't use it right. I meant get lost or lose yourself, falter.
/r/seduction24/10/18 02:41 AM
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That's a good tasting ham sandwich. I agree. Also op I hope it works out for you but if it doesn't, don't go off the deep end and realize that she's just one girl. There'll be plenty more and the lesson is to work on your self so that the next time you approach it gets marginally better for you. Success will come if you stick to your practice.
/r/seduction24/10/18 02:39 AM
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Yup I agree. I feel for op because the dude is vulturing but he needs to get out and develop himself. Op, I wouldn't avoid him though. Having him around will make you better. Pay more attention to what he's doing within the context of the material you see here. There are good lessons to learn here. I also want to point out something RSD Tyler mentioned about Julien. They have an agreement that Julien can come up anytime during a set and make things hard/steal his girl. He says it makes him much …
/r/seduction18/10/18 04:33 PM
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Agree with this but also your description suggests to me that you don't have a dating life that doesn't somehow border his dating life. Sounds like you guys have a lot of mutual friends but do you go out and meet women without him? Do you have a life outside of his? Like activities and hobbies?
/r/seduction18/10/18 04:20 PM
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She can also introduce you to other women. Don't underestimate the power of women finding you high value. She might invite you to things. She can hold the video camera
/r/seduction17/10/18 03:05 PM
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Have the damn coffee. Don't lead her to an office relationship but use this as a way to practice being engaging and try different routines on her without crossing a line. See if that gets her panties wet. Your choice to act but this can be good practice where playing it cool and leaning back can actually get you places.
/r/seduction17/10/18 02:57 PM
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So what happened
/r/seduction16/10/18 12:56 PM
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Some real progressive dating and pick up advice here.
/r/seduction14/10/18 11:02 AM
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Women are very scared of rejection and by all means by coming over to the 2nd attempt, you sorta showed disinterest in the other girl. Which isn't on you, she's maybe not used to it and decided that you prefer her friend. I don't know about the rest of the interaction, you guys talked and held hands but did it feel like it was ON? I suggest you replay the interaction in your head and write down what you could've done differently. I do suspect that if you stayed even keeled and had a great intera…
/r/seduction12/10/18 02:01 PM
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I guess the main things that I'm getting and the reason I'm recommending them is that they stress: Focusing on being present Having fun Enjoying the experience of gaming Not taking rejections to heart Not being outcome dependent Building up your interactions as the night continues All these things, if they manipulate me into believing, are things I'd happily want to implement in my game. Not sure where you're getting that from.
/r/seduction12/10/18 01:28 PM
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Sorry but this sounds like garbage. Either watch it and take the lesson which he talks about all the time for people who actually put in the work. Or don't. This is like "guys, fast food isn't tasty, help" and I go "try chik fil a, they have tasty" and you go "I used to try them. they are too political and too many people like them"
/r/seduction12/10/18 12:15 PM
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Watch RSD Tyler. We're not here to circle jerk you to success. Choose to enjoy the journey not the end goal. This is some of the best fun you'll have in your life.
/r/seduction12/10/18 08:44 AM
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Just ask her out again and say "just us this time" If she doesn't want to, get another date. Also maybe take girls to not the mall for dates
/r/seduction10/10/18 11:37 PM
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If you have to ask, assume she is not into you. But assume you're good enough and proceed accordingly
/r/seduction09/10/18 12:52 PM
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Nah
/r/seduction08/10/18 01:20 PM
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You guys should have a code word for this to switch. Be a little more tactical. And the overall agreement is this is all practice. Last thing you want is for a girl to ruin your relationship. If that is the situation, let him have what he wants and pick it up later. The wingman relationship is much more valuable.
/r/seduction02/10/18 01:00 PM
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Read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/4seyc9/never_run_out_of_things_to_say_to_womenkeep_the/?st=JMQFKPUI&sh=2f92baec
/r/seduction01/10/18 03:10 PM
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If you're worried about being boring then just assume you're boring and make a concerted effort to fix that. One word of warning for you because you seem quite green: be prepared to lose her. Don't be attached to this girl and don't put her on a pedestal. You don't need this to work and you don't need her validation. You're here to grow and to practice and she's here for the ride. If it works out, great. If not, great. Now when you talk to her you wanna make sure she's a good fit for you. So fin…
/r/seduction01/10/18 07:14 AM
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You seem to be skipping the process and trying to lock her in on the date. If you cannot build attraction via text or on the phone, what are the odds that your date is going to go well? Instead, I recommend you improve your chances by calling her and focusing on having a good conversation and see if there's chemistry. It will highly improve the odds of a good first date and plus if it's not good why go through the trouble of putting on pants and meeting her? This is the same as just getting a nu…
/r/seduction01/10/18 06:40 AM
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You should post what you think you need to work on next so that we can validate it and give you feedback. It's not all about the numbers and it's good that you're approaching but don't forget to push the interaction. You wanna be able to go in, generate emotion, intrigue her and maybe even instadate, the phone number should be plan b. Good luck on your journey, a lot to look forward to.
/r/seduction18/09/18 09:06 AM
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Well if your sandwiches didn't taste like butt, I'm sure they'd stick around for that. A girl who says this probably doesn't have any non physical qualities that men find attractive. I like playing with that idea until proven she has somewhat of a sense of humor.
/r/seduction17/09/18 01:23 PM
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This is not a pickup artist. Just a guy who takes action
/r/seduction07/09/18 04:52 AM
1

Or just embrace it. I'm sure there are a million other things you was worry about in a set that is not your sweaty palms. But thinking about it long enough, it makes me think of this https://youtu.be/C2WIvJUBbJw
/r/seduction06/09/18 04:56 PM
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Yeah I know for me, my hands tend to feel dry once it's applied. Hope it works! Accidental lpt
/r/seduction06/09/18 04:26 PM
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Have you tried hand sanitizer? Keeps it fresh and dries you out. Or have a cute little napkin with your dapper outfit
/r/seduction06/09/18 04:19 PM
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Dude why so aggro? Focus on the topic of discussion instead of the person who's making it. That girl deleted her comment which was a valid point and good insight. Super whack
/r/seduction29/08/18 09:53 AM
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/u/GCPO answer us you pig
/r/seduction29/08/18 05:05 AM
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I'll let him respond. Could be oversight or maybe not great English. Or that most relationships in people's 20s don't work out or he has some special insightf that it isn't going to work. Or maybe he's a fucking narcissist and you and I should get him. Let's start with an intense line of questioning.
/r/seduction29/08/18 05:03 AM
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That's really judgey. They are FRIENDS with benefits. They'll continue to be friends but he likes being physically intimate with her. Why are you slut shaming him? But I do agree with /u/Tasdel that you obviously should have a few other options available and that you are not waiting around which you didn't state but I feel like you're doing.
/r/seduction29/08/18 04:57 AM
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I would say feel happy for her but be stoic about what's happening. If you come from a place of abundance where you realize women will come and go, you'll appear less needy and more real like you "get it" Have a little bit of an interest in the guy she's dating. Tell the girl that you hope he appreciates things about her that you appreciate. I think by establishing a non judgemental, non needy frame will help because when it's over, she'll think you are up to date with her situation, you GET her…
/r/seduction29/08/18 04:54 AM
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However you wanna find girls, great. If people think tinder is not a waste of time and they'd rather spend full evenings in front of the TV swiping, then great! Meanwhile the rest of us are out with the girls you're hoping are going to match you
/r/seduction29/08/18 04:43 AM
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I definitely think tinder would work great for an attractive woman to screen and find men to date. But for average looking men who struggle with going out, being social and getting dates, tinder isn't the magic pill guys wish it could be. I think most women who spend two hours on tinder can pretty easily find an interesting conversation that is worth a coffee date. I don't think most men can say the same. Of course some few guys can find an attractive woman on tinder but what about the 95% of th…
/r/seduction29/08/18 04:35 AM
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Imagine you're a hot girl. You get 10 dick pics a day on Instagram. People invite you to all kinds of events and promotions. You can barely finish your 9-5 without some creep in the office asking you to have coffee. Why the fuck would you be on a dating app unless it's to find your ultimate mormon soulmate? Girls who are hot and have a lot going for them or not hiding at home waiting for you to match them on tinder. They are out enjoying life, pursuing their passion or getting treated by people …
/r/seduction29/08/18 02:32 AM
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What I'm saying is you don't have to open with 1000% intent. You haven't determined if you like her or if she's cool. Your entire mindset when you open is crucial. If you really have no problems chatting up beautiful women with no intention of escalating then KEEP doing that. But once you realize mid way through a casual, non flirty conversation that she's cool or you find her attractive, THEN turn on the intent. Start with a few compliments and physical contact. You know how are you about stuff…
/r/seduction29/08/18 02:27 AM
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Thanks my man. Appreciate your comments today
/r/seduction29/08/18 01:58 AM
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Couple of things here. I know for sure that both are recently single. And while girl 2 was fun to hang out with, there are a few things about her that I know I wouldn't want to seriously date her. I feel like I can get with her if I start becoming impatient but after your comments and thinking about it, I should just go out and have fun with other chicks and try to catch girl 1 when she's back. I know girl 2 is going to talk to girl 1 about me. I originally thought maybe I could parlay this into…
/r/seduction29/08/18 01:49 AM
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My advice is to just open with "hey how's it going?" That's all you need to do. The intent stuff you wanna add as you get more comfortable showing intent. Baby steps. Get out of your head and feel more when you open. Your problem is you have a million thoughts all telling you to not do this and your using showing intent as a crux to not open. So simplify things. Focus on good quality interactions
/r/seduction29/08/18 01:33 AM
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Thanks I appreciate that. It was interesting being out with girl 2 and feeling like I don't need to escalate or game and just have fun. Definitely felt more like she was gaming me at the end. I've just never been on dates where I'm not escalating and I keep finding myself not being as physical or suggestive because that's how I usually am on casual dates. Q: if these two didn't know each other, I would be very intimate with girl 2. Do people advise that I don't get physical with 2 if I want to g…
/r/seduction29/08/18 01:20 AM
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Make fun of them. They are stuck up and complete ridiculous. This reminds me of that Tyler video he explains how ridiculous sex is. The whole idea of courting someone, building attraction then going home with them, getting naked, you have a penis thing, they have a vagina and you two get together and you cum this white goo it's all fucking outrageous. In that same way, hold the frame, point at them and laugh and tell them they are so fucking hilarious in the grand scheme of things.
/r/seduction24/08/18 02:36 PM
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What the fuck alternative are you suggesting? When I go and spend 1:1 time with someone, it's a date. Coffee date, dinner date, Disney date, movie date, pizza date, museum date, yoga date. So do you have a problem with the word date or are you suggesting you rather stay home and watch porn? BTW the consensus definition of a date is: a social or romantic appointment or engagement.
/r/seduction24/08/18 02:32 PM
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What is this?
/r/seduction16/08/18 08:54 AM
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The city
/r/seduction16/08/18 06:00 AM
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Stop worrying about how she sees you and focus more on just enjoying the moment with her. Remember, she's out with you, not someone else. Continue doing what you're doing, don't be a complete different person this next time but be more intentional about touching her, communicating with her and getting the two of you to connect more affectionately. And if you sense that's it's not happening, you're completely in your rights to tell her that you think she's nice and would consider dating her but y…
/r/seduction07/08/18 03:50 PM
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Meh. How young are we talking? Is she a virgin? I think her acting annoyed, or trying to avoid connect is what you should look for. Not reacting is okay and should be treated as a yellow light, prepare to brake or stop but no need to panic just yet. I think you should try to be more inclusive and do more "us" mentality. Remember that your words can be powerful so when you two hug, tell her that "we need to give each other better hugs, hug game has been weak lately" or if they are good, tell her …
/r/seduction07/08/18 03:20 PM
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STRONG eye contact boye. Deep into her eyes, feel the moment coming. Look and her lips and lean in. And if it doesn't happen, don't be a bitch. Don't say shit like "why not?" Just chuckle and change up Hang out some more, share stories, eye contact and then lean in. Touch her, hold her hand, see how she responds. If she's awkward and not responding, it's probably been decided and you shouldve done the things on the FIRST. But also know that she's agreed to a 4th so she probably doesn't think you…
/r/seduction07/08/18 03:22 AM
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"Make sure you say it loud and flamboyant like Al from South Park. There's no half assing this 😚 Oh and I prefer 3 fingers or don't even try"
/r/seduction07/08/18 03:18 AM
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I always thought the location change would adjust the miles to simply be wherever the pin is
/r/seduction03/08/18 12:26 PM
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Go jerk off for a week, try being present, way more foreplay.
/r/seduction24/07/18 07:10 AM
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Why? Just live your life and enjoy being at a party without thinking about what he's thinking about you. Your shit is more important than his perceptions of you. And now you get to be in control of your own happiness instead of finding it in someone else (or sometime else's jealousy or misery)
/r/seduction19/07/18 04:09 PM
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Worst case she thinks you suck. Medium case it's a shit test. Best case she maybe had to put her phone down for a huge shit. But why would any of these situations affect the way you conduct yourself and where you put your attention? Do you have other things that need your attention? Focus on those. She can smell your neediness when you respond to those. Not saying ignore, just have other things to do and you'll give off a better vibe.
/r/seduction15/07/18 12:22 PM
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I mean someones going to go for it eventually. Just be respectful, go 60% and let her reach the other 40%. If she can sense that, she'll be more open to you anyway.
/r/seduction15/07/18 08:55 AM
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I second this. The hottest girls with things going for them are not going to be very active on tinder. I think it's great when you're traveling or new to a city but people also use it as a crutch to not go out and do the work. I think it's better to not even waste your time on apps unless you're taking a huge, slow shit and have nothing to read. Time is precious and tinder is mostly a waste of time unless you have a profile that can get girls matching and messaging you.
/r/seduction13/07/18 12:08 PM
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I'm reading this with a dorky British accent. My recommendation is to keep your eyes up and establish better eye contact. If guys are darting their eyes away from you, then that's their problem. If it's a smile with the eyes, try smiling at them as you continue doing what you're doing. Now if you really really really like someone as you're passing by them and have established eye contact just let out a nice "hi" as you pass them. 99/100 if you look back you'll see him looking back at you too. If…
/r/seduction04/06/18 07:31 PM
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How do you think you might not like sex if you've never penetrated? Do you like kissing her? Then kiss her more and take off her clothes and expose more places to kiss. Pay attention to how she responds. You don't need to take it 100% of the way: grab her hand and put it on your dick. Move forward.
/r/seduction04/06/18 07:20 PM
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No, you can return as many times granted you don't completely disgust her by putting her on a pedestal. You're putting her needs way above yours. When she said she's okay meeting but with friends, this was your opportunity to say that she's ridiculous and you didn't realize she was a 14 year old. You have standards and expectations which your lady needs to meet. And if she doesn't, next girl. The solution isn't bending your needs to accommodate her. Alternatively, other people who would be succe…
/r/seduction04/06/18 07:13 PM
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Or you can introduce them to each other? Next time don't be a sneaky person. Women are okay with you dating other women. They are NOT okay with you telling them that they're the only one when they aren't. Also fuck your plates bullshit. They are women or sets or human beings.
/r/seduction27/05/18 08:10 AM
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Now it's all about going out and meeting new girls and having options yeah?
/r/seduction17/05/18 03:08 PM
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Channel your jizz to 12 approaches a day
/r/seduction16/05/18 04:40 PM
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You're also in college. You're 18 and there are good looking people everywhere having fun. This isn't a knock on you but the people you're seeing are looking to date and not settle into a relationship. The ones who you ask might SAY they are but I think a lot of guys would say that to sleep with you. I would ask you to challenge yourself on who you keep meeting and going out with. The fun, confident guys who actually see you and hit on you are probably not doing that to just you. If you notice a…
/r/seduction16/05/18 04:19 PM
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Are you here to read the comments and advice people are writing or just adding more pieces for a jerk off session? You're having a completely different conversation than the responses above this comment.
/r/seduction16/05/18 04:12 PM
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Or you can do that 90s thing and call her. If you really like her, might as well just get the ball rolling to see if you two like each other. That way you are on each other's radar and you get to build some chemistry/screen her before the date. Plus you should definitely be going out on other dates during the month.
/r/seduction09/05/18 05:07 PM
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I would just say that you should be focusing on quality conversations. Girls give their numbers away all the fucking time. You know what happens when you text them? No reply. Unless you made an impression and they wanna see you again, or are at least somewhat interested. So focus on good interactions, check out a few videos on YouTube about that. Check out RSD Todd and Tyler who talk about this specifically.
/r/seduction08/05/18 04:22 AM
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So originally I thought this was a problem with the approaches but now it sounds like it's in the conversations. Can you tell us what parts of your game do you feel are weaker than others? Are the conversations boring? Are they not hooking the way you expect? Do they not get your humor? Can they even hear you? Is your voice doing what it's supposed to? Are they contributing back to the conversation?
/r/seduction07/05/18 11:57 PM
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This entire response reads like someone seeking validation.. TBH you sound like a narcissistic prick. I hope I just read this all wrong but at this point I really have nothing else to suggest to you. Wishing you all the best.
/r/seduction07/05/18 08:32 PM
2

Try book clubs, wine tastings, high tea, church, gym, the beach, and densely populated places of interest. And try daygame. If you haven't, that's the missing piece.
/r/seduction07/05/18 06:49 PM
2

I hear you but I think this is a limiting belief of yours. The women you wanna date have options ranging from 20-60, and they are being met by men in real life. You are attempting to change the game to fit your preferences instead of growing to find your space in the game. What you're trying can work but you're not doing yourself any favors. My advice stands but maybe you'll find someone special online as well just suggesting you not put all your eggs in one basket
/r/seduction07/05/18 06:01 PM
2

Go out and meet women in real life. 1 hour of solid approaches will be far more productive than 1 hour on tinder or Zoosk or whatever.
/r/seduction07/05/18 05:18 PM
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Okay, how are you approaching? And have you encountered something that consistently leads to a short conversation instead of an auto rejection? If no, try new approaches. If yes, what's been working? Additionally what's your goal when you approach? Could be 1. Get number, get sex 2. Have fun, casual conversations with cool people 3. Show people I'm actually a fun guy 4. Connecting with another human I have a feeling it's #1 with your direct approaches which isn't wrong but may be too aggressive,…
/r/seduction07/05/18 05:17 PM
1

I'm going to celebrate by ___________. You should come with. Or if it's not very cool activity, I feel like we didn't get a chance to properly hang out. What does ____day look like for you? Not to shit on your happiness but you're young and have oneitis. If this fails, realize that being better with girls is a process and based on traits, mindsets and deep deep stuff - adopting a few tricks and lines and unpractised outer game pieces will not get you very far. If it doesn't work with this girl, …
/r/seduction04/05/18 11:21 AM
2

Get back out there and get it
/r/seduction02/05/18 05:39 PM
2

Stop blaming shit on people. Either it did affect you and fucked up your game or it didn't. But does it serve you to even believe that it did? Why not just go about your life like it didn't, focus on the reason you went out that night (getting good with women) instead of what happened (something that challenges and hurt your ego)
/r/seduction02/05/18 01:33 AM
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It's a nice reality check and a good lesson. I would shrug off what this incident "means" but also use it to fuel you. You aren't a clown, and you have things to learn. Let this be a nice change to know what to do in these situations. The only way to know is to practice. This is the worst it gets, not really that bad! Don't let this discourage you. It's literally a step towards improving and you'll get it if you keep going
/r/seduction01/05/18 09:18 AM
2

Dafuq did I read
/r/seduction23/04/18 04:03 AM
2

You have no idea what you are saying and doing and you are trying to rationalize your own lack of understanding with a convenient answer that helps things feel less shitty. You came here for help and we're happy to help. Theres a collective millions of hours of understanding women in this sub and I feel like most of us would agree that you need a reality check. Your whole mentality is wrong and if you don't adjust it to something healthy, then I'm happy for any girl who is smart enough to stay t…
/r/seduction23/04/18 03:32 AM
1

Neither do I so What's your number?
/r/seduction17/04/18 03:23 PM
2

If you have to ask, the answer is no. But within the context of this post I think you need to build more attraction. She's not sold yet but she's not not interested. So go out on dates with other girls, put some interesting shit up on IG without being try hard, and tell her you're doing x, and she should come join you. If she's not receptive then you're done but you're still out having fun doing x and she's just getting railed by NFL players who don't really care about who she is or what she's i…
/r/seduction16/04/18 03:09 AM
1

Good PSA considering three threads just keep coming
/r/seduction11/04/18 02:06 AM
5

If it's impossible, do you really even want to accept that from a bunch of 20 year old dick heads on a Reddit sub? Or would you try your fucking best and find out if it is impossible or not?
/r/seduction10/04/18 05:06 AM
1

Write I'm a virgin In your profile. Try to spike emotions in your matches without needing to commit to anything or trying to hard. Don't take the conversation too seriously unless you yourself want to get real for a minute. When girls ask you about the virginity thing, tease them for being perverted and tell that you are saving it for someone who can really show YOU a good time. But give them a little, tell them what they're saying is really turning you on but you shouldn't go on because you wan…
/r/seduction10/04/18 04:09 AM
1

Lol
/r/seduction09/04/18 01:24 PM
2

If you have to ask, it's a no dog Unless your inner game is so good that she does. But then you wouldn't be asking
/r/seduction09/04/18 05:39 AM
1

Send her a photo of your shit
/r/seduction08/04/18 07:39 PM
1

Keep an eye on your churn rate. That is the number of girls who go cold, become unresponsive or are a no go. Yes you're looking at neediness but just look at the real life facts. If you get 10 numbers a week and by the end of the month you're still talking to only 3/40, that's a high churn. It might be some other things but assume that 90% of the time it's neediness which is the equivalent of having dick breath for a girl.
/r/seduction08/04/18 07:38 PM
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Extend them
/r/seduction08/04/18 07:33 PM
3

There are women who want to sleep around and the people they are dating aren't enough or will do for now. This isn't a male only problem. What I do think is wrong with op is he's not owning up to himself about this. Meaning if he knows he wants to date around, he shouldn't pretend that a LTR will suffice. Op, you need to own your feelings and not wrap yourself into monogamous relationships when you know you won't be in it too long and crave dating new people. You should be clear about your inten…
/r/seduction08/04/18 07:29 PM
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That's not for you to decide. This other person, has the right to her own feelings and decisions. This isn't the confusedloner1 world. She's an autonomous human being who has feelings, bad days and emotionall baggage too. You could end up doing this to a really sweet woman one day. It happens. What's done is done. It'll sort itself out and is a key life lesson. Don't forget it. Now on to better things. Your path to self improvement. You know what you need to work on and you'll never let yourself…
/r/seduction08/04/18 07:24 PM
2

I'll be honest, I didn't read all of this but I think I got the gist. Ask yourself: If you were the girl of your dreams, would you be attracted to the man you are now? I'm guessing probably not. I know that's not the case for me but I'm working on it. You recognize you are a loner and don't have much going on for you. Fix that. Be social, be proactive, be engaging, exciting, charming, funny, sexy, all the things. And keep going out and meeting new people. At least 5 a week. Old people, baristas,…
/r/seduction08/04/18 07:15 PM
4

Stop harassing this girl and move on. Apologize for being awkward and practice reading gestures, and focus more on being playful, building rapport and presenting yourself in a way where women are giving you positive signs IOIs and not blatantly telling you this isn't working
/r/seduction08/04/18 07:09 PM
5

You need more practice. Practice, fail, practice, fail, practice, win, practice, fail.
/r/seduction08/04/18 06:17 PM
1

Late to the party but your being 5'9 is really not your problem. You are who you are. There are girls 5'11 who have this same notion but the opposite. They feel they need to attract taller guys but are insecure about their height and looking too tall. Less guys approach the girls than if they were 5'6. So basically, don't be an insecure tall girl. If you tinder and come across women who bring this up my advice is to own it. It's worked plenty of times for me when I tell them: Cool. I'm 5'7 but h…
/r/seduction08/04/18 06:16 PM
7

I 'm going to predict that you'll get numbers maybe even dates, and then bomb them when you meet them in real life. Women have centuries of evolution and social intelligence to screen out unattractive men. You're failing the screen. This is your solution to a life challenge? Pay someone to do the dirty, bitch work instead of developing an understanding of why your current attempts aren't well received? Focus on the journey not the results. Or be forever unhappy while chasing some Hollywood manuf…
/r/seduction31/03/18 09:42 AM
1

Also get better at kissing. Kissing isn't giving. It's taking and teasing and gigging just barely enough for her to want to keep kissing you. If you're making out is hot and she can't stop, this will all go easier. Also start leading instead of making sure everything is okay with her all the time. If she sets clear boundaries like "I don't like it when you do that" then good go a different way but don't respond with "oh no, why?" And place all this extra emphasis on what she's saying. Shrug it o…
/r/seduction31/03/18 09:31 AM
2

This is great. Do that again, pause on that moment. Laugh at yourself and everything around you. Great for the soul
/r/seduction29/03/18 03:16 PM
1

Ok good man. Don't get too caught up in the what if scenarios. I once had a girl I was casually dating get roofied by this creep in a bar. He kept trying to hit on her and she's a big girl so I thought I'd watch him do his thing. She said no thanks, came back to me and progressively got loopier until she passed out in my living room (couldn't move to come up to my bedroom). Next day she wet the mattress and was totally embarrassed. I told her it's fine, then I started piecing it together. Appare…
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:35 AM
1

Did she share what happened? How does someone get singled out like that in the women's bathroom? There had to be others there right?
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:26 AM
3

This goes beyond just being an attractive girl. You did what you can and if you wanted to, finely let her know to reach you if she needs anything. It's not needy it's just the right thing to do. These situations are hyper real, beyond just playing the game, it's important that we're all still human and set good examples for others to follow. You did a good thing, thanks for sharing this. Hope she's doing okay
/r/seduction20/03/18 02:47 PM
2

It's also narcissistic. You want women to find you attractive. Do they get a say in the matter? You can't control or will other people's thoughts or feelings. You can present yourself in a way that is genuine and they can decide whether they fancy you their type. That being said, not all women have a clear idea of what they find attractive. People don't know what they don't know. So if you don't fit the mold, that's fine. Keep doing things that demonstrate that you have things going on in your l…
/r/seduction19/03/18 06:49 AM
5

Dude. People on here have trouble just speaking to someone with boobs. You went to a hot girls place and fumbled. Put those things into perspective for a sec. Now you sound like you blew this one chance with the only hot girl on Earth. There'll be more girls and at least you know what the fuck you need to do next which is escalate and learn to pleasure women. Get out of your own head and make it about making someone feel good. Find out what women like, how to kiss every part of a women well and …
/r/seduction18/03/18 10:42 AM
3

No it's about realizing what your standards are. Most guys don't spend enough time. It's just see what's out there and "she'll do" Every girl I've seriously dated has set new standards and taught me what I love and don't. It's important to remember what those things are and as soon as you realize that's not what you're getting, stop and move on. I have higher expectations of my partner than most women have when they date me. It also means you two grow together and they know what you will and won…
/r/seduction15/03/18 12:47 PM
2

Grass is always greener. Looks good from where you're standing but you don't see the fights and finances and pain they exists behind closed doors.
/r/seduction15/03/18 10:47 AM
11

But I'll say that this is still the best use of my time and I've learned a great deal from this sub and resources. Think of all the other guys who lowered their standards to check the marriage and kids box. Maybe they're fighting all the time or feeling unfulfilled or maybe even not enough for their partners. I'd rather constantly be searching and getting closer every time than the alternative.
/r/seduction15/03/18 08:26 AM
123

A woman? Easy. The right one? Well, keep it going dude
/r/seduction15/03/18 06:53 AM
2

You're attracted to that but something is telling you that it doesn't feel right. You're somehow intimidated by the alternative which is a good sign. Means that it matters to you and you want that in your life. You should be trying you're hardest to seek out this kind of interaction, identify it quickly and become less aggressive, just hang in and train yourself to be comfortable in that kind of vibe. Don't overdo it, you have nothing to prove. You definitely will get a lot of value from Mark Mo…
/r/seduction10/03/18 01:26 PM
3

I'm just going to rant cause I feel like it: you know the girls who can't help but always date assholes? Not all of them, but some actually seek out emotional abuse because that's what they're attracted to. Some attempt to relive past trauma. These individuals need to literally work against their instincts to find mates who treat them well, attractive. Not saying this is you but that's the extreme spectrum of this issue. As for your problem, are you here to bang or seek deep meaningful relations…
/r/seduction10/03/18 12:59 PM
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As someone who studied psychology and spent my fair share around people working through therapy, I strongly suggest you consider what you're attracted to as well. Relationships are messy, I dated someone who had borderline most recently and took awhile for it to click. They might be going through stuff or have personality issues but realize that their traits, how they project themselves are things you can find attractive. Do screen them better. And sometimes that takes months, so always keep an …
/r/seduction10/03/18 12:54 PM
5

Hey taco, are you in downtown sf or the peninsula? I recommend you focus on cultivating a network of friends and women considering your situation. If daygame involves hanging out at philz in Cupertino, your chances are slim. If you get our at lunch on market St, different story. If it's the former, let me try to sell you a vision. A group of people of varying ages with similar hobbies, aspirations who meet up for adventures or to shoot the shit. Weekend can be a trip to Napa, or a yoga retreat, …
/r/seduction09/03/18 04:19 AM
2

You got it, my man. There are good lessons here. Something you should be focusing on for future interactions is getting her to emotionally invest in you. You need IOIs. When she's texting you instead of the other way around, that's the state you want to get to. So the thing people used to bring up here a lot is, "I got the number but she's not responding". The consensus here is that it's fairly easy to get a phone number, that's not your goal when you meet and interact with people. Don't go into…
/r/seduction09/03/18 04:04 AM
5

Imagine you're a hot girl. Guys blowing up your phone all day, girlfriends sending you memes and you have your regular work day as well. There's no shortage of plans or things to do on a given day. All the while you receive the texts you've been sending. Now, she's at least responding to you from time to time which is par for the course. Theory 1: she's not emotionally invested. She probably is further along with other, more fun conversations and is waiting for you to spike her interests. But la…
/r/seduction09/03/18 03:33 AM
2

I think watching some RSD Tyler will help you immensely. You seem to have a fixed view on how the game works. You asked what you're doing wrong, it's impossible to know with this information. If you give a specific set example with details I'm sure the community can provide ideas. I'll say that 99% of the time, it's inner game, it's your attitude and it's how comfortable with where you are in the universe. Confidence is one thing, how you carry yourself, conduct yourself and your to respond to t…
/r/seduction07/03/18 10:58 AM
2

No point worrying about it now. Just hit her up again. If she's cold then you'll know.
/r/seduction24/02/18 11:57 AM
4

Take it easy on yourself. You aren't stuck, you have options. Remember that. You Always Have Options
/r/seduction19/02/18 10:57 AM
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Dude you are a victim of pretty serious emotional abuse. And you're defending her. Here's my constructive advice. 100% of oneitis cases stems from a lack of confidence. That's inner game. You don't think you can do better and you don't have enough reference points to suggest you can. What do you do about it? Your relationship with this woman is over. Do not respond to her, stop trying to seek abuse. Block her and move on with your life. If you feel emotional opposition to my words, you probably …
/r/seduction19/02/18 10:32 AM
-3

Well you're a warty ass bitch ass hooker from hell
/r/seduction12/02/18 08:51 PM
6

I don't really have a side. If you wanna fuck girls with bfs that's fine. I've done it. My advice is don't sacrifice your own integrity just to get your dick wet. And certainly don't make someone feel bad when they exercise that
/r/seduction05/02/18 05:07 PM
1

Believe what you want but don't impose your philosophy on this young man. If people feel that wrong wedging themselves in the middle of a struggling relationship then who the fuck are you to tell them otherwise? There is no one size fits all to this. Some people are not looking to bang every single hot girl albeit relationship status or daddy issues. Maybe some of us are focused on creating quality, positive relationships without wanting baggage and drama? It's not for me or anybody to shame thi…
/r/seduction05/02/18 05:05 PM
4

This guy's comment sucks. You did the right thing. All these other turds would have ruined this girl's relationship just so they could feel like they are some pua. Fact is, you learned a valuable lesson and you did it without seeing yourself out. You did it with integrity. Whatever you felt in that moment, that's what godmode feels like.
/r/seduction05/02/18 04:23 PM
1

You're very welcome. Go out there, get better and help make the world better. Cheers
/r/seduction26/01/18 08:09 PM
3

All fair questions and we love your being proactive with this. Here are some Golden rules to help you: Spend your time the way that you want without fearing the consequences. You're 20, you're reaching the prime of your life and the most important thing you have is time. Don't waste it trying to make her happy when you feel her requests are unreasonable or she's being overbearing. If you love her and want to make her happy then do the things that make her happy but don't let her meeting unhappy …
/r/seduction26/01/18 04:16 PM
11

She's 18. This behavior is due to the fact that she is relatively new to dating. You're getting pure, unfiltered affection from a lady. Once she gets hurt or taken advantage a few times, she'll start behaving more like the women we're accustomed to. It's just a part of growing up and maturing. Enjoy this while it lasts and make sure to treat her well.
/r/seduction26/01/18 02:18 AM
1

I don't get it. Give her your number again, tell her not to lose it this time wink and mention that you prefer connecting with people in real life instead of over an app.
/r/seduction03/09/17 09:32 PM
1

Start introducing it on smaller occasions. I routinely take her to coffee, order my part and tell the barista that my sugarmama will pay for it and point to her. Or just say "she's getting me" without needing her to confirm it. See if that changes anything.
/r/seduction23/08/17 03:21 PM
1

You're right he has so much content it's so hard to find specific lessons. Try this https://youtu.be/G2H9o6z1oKU
/r/seduction30/07/17 07:17 PM
1

Watch Tyler's bit. And let's be real here. If you can realistically change it, then fix it. If there's really nothing to be done or it'll cost a lot or you don't have the means, then there's really no point talking about it. Take action, focus on being present and not caught up in your self esteem concerns. There are always going to be smarter, better looking, more successful, better gummed people. Separate yourself by being engaging and taking action.
/r/seduction30/07/17 05:23 PM
7

Approaching is the single best thing you can do to attract women
/r/seduction30/07/17 04:31 PM
5

I'm with op. Have some standards and show some abundance - this isn't the first or last time a girl is going to flake. But realize that there are lessons here that you need to improve on. And usually the best comeback is not spite or revenge, it's always having a better time, better life without her. Don't get caught up, we all have work to do
/r/seduction01/07/17 02:59 PM
1

Not here to debate IQ. You're environment is too small for you to grow in for much longer. You're 16 and not long from now you'll be in college. You'll need to work through college on being social, cool and proactive about getting people together. Learn from this now and realize that if you want to pickup, you'll need to live in a city.
/r/seduction15/04/17 04:12 PM
1

https://youtu.be/P5KCMjve-aw. 8:57. Don't wait for the right time just make it the right time
/r/seduction05/04/17 05:55 AM
2

She likes you just have fun and don't overthink it. Good luck my man
/r/seduction04/04/17 03:14 PM
1

Be careful about what you're doing. I feel like calling it a date is pretty old school. Why don't you just ask her to the main thing you intend to do that day? Let's spend the afternoon in the city. Let's grab dinner at this French restaurant that one been meaning to try. Beach on Saturday, you and me. Keep it simple
/r/seduction04/04/17 02:56 PM
1

Just tell her that you got bit by a spider and now all you want is to serially date and impregnate 19 year olds. As she is not that age, you likely won't want to see her anymore though you think she's a lovely person who will definitely settle for a good man and likely cheat on him before their wedding. I think this captures the right amount of asshole that she won't think twice about meeting you.
/r/seduction04/04/17 02:45 PM
2

I love your gif suggestion
/r/seduction01/04/17 05:33 PM
1

Being accused of sleeping with a high number is good. I think you need to own it more instead of trying to make it like you're the one with the problem. She's putting you in a box here, hold your frame maybe even exaggerate/tease her with it. If it's clear that you're the desirable one here and you push her away more in a playful manner, I think you'll see she changes her tune. And if not, who cares? Find an even hotter girl who likes you for you and isn't going to try to control or shame you fo…
/r/seduction31/03/17 05:17 PM
1

I'm no expert but I've seen many times this common theme where victims of trauma or abuse in relationships tend to subconsciously recreate it in new relationships. If you continue to keep attracting people who share similar characteristics you probably want to start there. More importantly if this comment sounds like you, I recommend you talk to somebody with experience about this. If it's not, I would offer human advice that applies to both genders. Try changing things up. Stop meeting guys at …
/r/seduction17/03/17 03:06 PM
2

If you two aren't together, what she did was fair game. You clearly like her and maybe she feels guilt about what happened. I suggest you have a mature conversation about it. If she got a little drunk or silly, made a mistake and wants to be with you, then great. Be with her. If she likes him and wants to be friends then decide whether you want that in your life. If you do, you're friends now. If you don't, move on. If she has no idea what you're talking about, then tell her to come talk to you …
/r/seduction15/03/17 09:24 PM
2

You are not too old. Be confident and don't be afraid to get rejected. The more you push yourself the better your results. Ask how old they are because sometimes you'll be talking to a 16 year old. Ask people how they know each other. They could be fucking. Learn to stop people walking towards you. Moving targets are harder but that will be most of the people you'll want to meet. Don't be in your own head, vibe with people and try to capture emotion not logically convince them to exchange number…
/r/seduction04/03/17 05:54 PM
3

If you recently started nofapping you'll likely experience a remission period where you feel like you have zero sex drive. This will pass. If this was happening before you stopped masturbating, and you think is severe you should consult a doctor.
/r/seduction21/02/17 03:47 PM
3

This is great but I'll caution you to not make this too big of a deal. If you go through with actively taking control of your love life and self development then you'll likely experience many firsts. This is a milestone but not the end game. Keep pushing and don't get complacent. This should give you hope and motivate you to go further.
/r/seduction28/12/16 04:50 PM
2

I feel like you need to cool it a little. A man with abundance and has a life isn't going to go out of his way to have this girl come by on New Years. You can invite the mutual friend and suggest she bring the 8 but don't get caught up with this girl because it's simply not high value behavior. As someone in his 20s who has been out and met plenty of ladies and familiars, know that it's a small world and you'll bump into them again. Side note to consider: maybe she already has a high opinion abo…
/r/seduction27/12/16 04:39 PM
1

Be confident and take the lead. Don't blink if she doesn't want to do what you want, just act calm and creatively work it out. Dont think so much, be present. Don't be outcome dependent. If you want to kiss, make sure you're building tension. So kino a lot. Stop her from walking, or talking mid sentence and look into her eyes and move in, not 100% of the way, just 80. Between 0-80% she needs to move in a little too. When she does, it's on. Don't doubt whether she'll want to kiss, 100% confidence…
/r/seduction26/11/16 06:27 PM
2

I think this is a great opportunity to think about a routine that works for you. Some ideas: You can try playing a game where you ask her to close her eyes and take turns with something like 2 truths a lie with light touching. Or invite her to touch you and get comfortable. In my experience, going for the high five, holding her hand from there to spin, bring in for hugs, etc is fair game. If she's receptive just lift your hand up and invite her to hold it again for key parts of your conversation…
/r/seduction25/11/16 04:53 AM
1

You did the right thing on multiple instances. You can't be responsible for women who are evidently not sure what the hell they want. Looking forward to more from you
/r/seduction16/11/16 04:14 PM
2

She's not an idiot, she knows what she's getting herself into. Fact is, most people have herpes and there's a terrible stigma about it. I'm not saying go around and spread it, I'm saying it's not the end of the world that you have it. In fact this girl I'm seeing came clean with me the first time we were about to and I respected her so much more for telling me. Condoms are expected no matter what you or her think you both have, it's likely always worse than you think. My advice: I recognize your…
/r/seduction01/11/16 04:21 PM
2

I would and we can drink slippery nipples and talk about your awful choice in men but I'm not gay, I'm a lesbian.
/r/seduction23/10/16 02:59 AM
1

Dude I wanna commend you for being open about this and being a responsible man. I hear this a lot on Dr Drew's loveline and he usually brushes it off since HPV is very very common. The only thing I wanna say is that you're doing the right thing, don't change that. Tweak your approach and maybe make an effort to have a 'real talk' moment before you two go upstairs. When she's comfortable with having a serious moment with you beforehand and you approach this in the same way, I feel that would help…
/r/seduction31/07/16 02:04 AM
1

I would just caution that you're in a foreign country and the chances are slim, but if someone wanted to rob and extort you, this would be a really easy way to do it. Keep your guard up and make her earn your trust.
/r/seduction30/06/16 03:00 AM
1

Question for you is how long are you waiting before you contact them again? Some women are a little insecure or feel used and require a little bit of an emotional connection after. What are you doing to pick up from the thread of last night? Or is it just sex and radio silence from you?
/r/seduction19/05/16 03:55 PM
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