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The only one of those that would have this kind of data is economic research... which uses data from banking institutions among others.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:48 AM
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Where exactly do you think the US gets is financial and economic data from?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:29 AM
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"A financial survey encouraging Americans to save more money was released in 2019 and exposed that 59% of Americans are currently at risk of homelessness. In fact, they are all just one paycheck away from experiencing homelessness firsthand." https://content.schwab.com/web/retail/public/about-schwab/Charles-Schwab-2019-Modern-Wealth-Survey-findings-0519-9JBP.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:13 AM
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I think you're having an entirely different conversation. Again "I was merely pointing out that virginal doesn't mean 'makes good decisions' or 'doesn't make decisions based on lust'."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:10 AM
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Repeating since apparently you missed it the first time: "I'd have to look at actual research. If I have time to after the holiday weekend I will but in the meantime IFStudies.org is a trashfire not taken seriously by the scientific community."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:04 AM
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I think the 'just get out there' means because that's the best way to meet and comprehend the existence of a variety of people, including the existence of people who want you for more than your career, or your grind, or your muscles, or your youth, or your beauty, or your hostess-abilities. Staying inside, not trying to have normal social exchanges with women and men, not trying to build friendships or connect with people, having very limited or narrow interactions with people of a variety of ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:21 AM
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The things you mentioned, public housing, healthcare, and education is paid for by someone else laying claim to your productive output. It's collective. You're right in that billionaires get the benefits of roads they sometimes loophole themselves into paying far less and smaller percentages than a middle-income person. But having a society that is healthy and housed is a net good. Having a society where people are pressured/forced to date someone they don't want is not. What would you say if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:17 AM
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It depends on the market. For instance, clothing models look different than fitness models look different than the model they choose to sell car insurance. Victoria's Secret still has mostly thin, tall models, but the few plus sizes ones they added are purely so they can get the dollars of plus-sized customers in their stores. Since (US) most women are plus-sized, it's a considerable market.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:11 AM
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I don't think it holds up with the demonstrated fact that most people don't fit into these niches and yet most still end up with someone where there is genuine mutual physical attraction (at least at the start of the relationship). Outside of some arranged and sugar relationships most people get together because they find each other attractive physically in addition to other factors like personality/compatibility). Also people weigh things differently, and there are so many factors that go into …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:10 AM
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I think the unfortunate reality is that taking no at face value guarantees you will miss out on sexual opportunities with women who just wanted you to push harder. Why is that unfortunate? You didn't violate them and you didn't end up with someone who plays shitty games about consent. Win/win.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:40 PM
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I have spent most of my life in the Bay Area and there is still a lot of conservative sentiment when it comes to gender dynamics, slut-shaming, et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:05 PM
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Better to never get laid at all than to ignore someone's no and find out that it was rape. You don't know if that person is okay with it or not until after they tell you, in which case, after they told you they wanted to fuck you/continue... that would be consent. Someone who lies about what they want in bed or says 'no' when they mean 'yes' is a one-way ticket to crazy town.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:03 PM
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I text people during appointments too.... I was at one today and texted the guy I'm seeing from the waiting room. It's not that unusual. Even if it's work related sometimes you're waiting for everyone to join a meeting, or in a waiting room or a line to see a representative, doctor, specialist, et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:02 PM
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Right? So many people out there who might be wonderful, decent, interesting, sexy human beings, but when I've been available and looking for dates like some months ago on the apps, I still will reject a person who wants kids or marriage et cetera. Doesn't mean anything negative about them or negative or positive about me...just means we would not be a good fit, healthy, or make each other happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:48 PM
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Romantic and sexual chemistry are too nuanced for it to be an easy blame game. But if someone is hostile and smells bad for example, that's likely the #1 cause of them not dating. Most people who haven't dated yet or been in a relationship who have been actively looking for one are unlucky, but some are actively sabotaging themselves yes. And this isn't gendered. Plenty of women have done things while wanting to date that make them unappealing to people. And those men have every right to say no …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:33 PM
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Exchanging possessions involves another consenting person too??? Hah, I wish, we'd have a lot less wealth disparity. If you're talking about housing though, something like government housing would be owned by people as a whole. And a mutually-beneficial societal service is not a person's body or dating interest. Trying to get people to date who they don't want is a societal detriment not a societal advancement.... and even if it were proven to be so, their right to not participate in an optional…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:28 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:25 PM
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It's pretty unethical to try to 'throw someone off' when dating is generally about getting to know someone. Most people regardless of ideology would agree that games suck and people should not play them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:06 PM
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I looked into it further and it looks like we were both looking at different ranges (you have to match the same year with the same year) and that we weren't accounting for gender (the discussion was about young men). Additionally one of your listed sources doesn't list where the actual data was from and is an organization focused on US suicide, not Worldwide suicide among men. This shows that Japan has much lower rates among suicide in men than the US in men. You have to sort the data for men. h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:05 PM
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He and his cronies said she could do with a good raping, basically, and she indicated in her clapback that he seemed to be insecure about his manhood. How is a clapback against someone teasing rape where you use the same body-language of your attacker an example of body shaming. For instance, if someone calls you a bitch for politely declining their advance, and then calls you ugly. You might not agree that you're ugly. You might not agree that they are ugly. But based on their insult of you, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:47 PM
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Wanting to be ugly just so that you don't get male attention is extreme. Ugly doesn't protect you unfortunately from at least some unwanted attention. I don't think wanting to be ugly is that extreme if the alternative is being harassed, I do think it's inaccurate to say that ugly people aren't harassed. People are harassed sometimes even when the harasser has no idea what they look like yet. aying that you are single by choice doesn't mean you have options, though (Example: MGTOW). No the resea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:40 PM
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Yes young men still approach us even outside the club... I would agree that it's less often than in prior generations it seems though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:37 PM
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Just adding on to this thread for more context regarding the distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:36 PM
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Looks like those figures are old. The US is 31st worldwide for suicide rate. Japan is almost 20 slots lower at 49th. https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/suicide/by-country/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:36 PM
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Most people aren't one paycheck away form homelessness. In the US they are. I have never seen a woman mow a lawn, Go outside more. most men still pay and plan dates, and women still clean more than men. As of 2021 most women and men (near 70% in all ages, and much higher among zoomers and millennials) believe dates should be split/pay for oneself. Most dates are planned collaboratively. If you're dating a woman in her 50s, yeah this is less likely to happen, but still a majority believe in split…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:33 PM
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Or maybe men and women should date however they want, whether that's organically in person, through online dating, or a mixture of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:29 PM
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Movies and tv shows aside, most blind people don't feel someone's faces before they agree to go on a date with them....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:29 PM
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The problem is they're exceedingly likely to become partners, despite these social inefficiencies. I mean, what's wrong with that if someone consents to be with them and enjoys their company? Sometimes dum dums find each other and have a beautiful love story. Sometimes obnoxious pricks do too. It's not up to your or me to judge if they should be together or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:28 PM
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even in professional environments they don't make basic eye contact, Basic eye contact isn't indicative of being a good communicator. In fact, it can be considered rude in some professional and other spaces. Also, one word answers are not necessarily bad communication either. Neither is speaking with an indoor voice. Your examples of bad communication don't seem to be universally bad communication. Plenty of great communicators speak with indoor voices and don't need a lot of words to hold a con…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:27 PM
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It's crazy to me that dating apps seem to be the only way some people try to find partners anymore. They're not the only one they are just the #1 source of relationships and becoming even more common. For example in the US still 1 out of 4 relationships will begin through friends/family social connections and 1 out of 4 relationships will begin through academic/professional social connections at least until the end of the decade. Online dating isn't for everyone, but it is for some people and co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:23 PM
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"Correct" lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:18 PM
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Oppression would be pressuring someone to be with someone they don't want to be. It's not 'being oppressed' if someone doesn't consent to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:16 PM
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Mostly men pay for and plan all the dates, Really depends on the country and generation. For example in the US over every age range/generation almost 70% of people believe in splitting these costs and responsibilities. That percentage rises if you're dating someone under 45. Most people incur at least small costs while dating, that's one of the many reasons coffee dates are so popular among every gender. There are plenty of brokies out there dating other brokies and laughing about budgeting for …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:15 PM
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Or God help you online dating lol. Online dating is the number one source of relationships in many countries, and only becoming more common as the "place" where couples meet. Some relationships suck, some are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:11 PM
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Plenty of people don't fall for sales pitches... plenty of people would never be dodgy in their 'sales pitches' or never date as a sales pitch in the first place, plenty of people end up with long-term partners based on compatibility and both wanting the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:10 PM
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Most women and men (in the US) are one paycheck away from homelessnes and still date each other and that dating usually starts with mutual attraction. Women love gender roles in dating as long as they are the male gender role. Most men and women aren't in a binary of tradition. Even the most traditionalist man might acknowledge his wife is better at repairing fences and he's better at cooking. As long as they both consent to the breakdown of household chores, there's nothing hypocritical about i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:07 PM
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Women pay taxes too. Women work too (some of it paid, some of it unpaid labor). Dating isn't a possession. Dating involves another consenting person. Houses are object with no feelings. Healthcare already has (though eroding) bodily autonomy built into it as well. You do have to render aid, you don't have to use your own body to do so (or shouldn't). Dating isn't necessary to live a fulfilling, healthy happy life. 98% of people date well before retirement age (US), most of them in long-term rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:06 PM
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Because dating isn't required to be happy, healthy, fulfilled and 98% of people date and have relationships who want them decades before retirement age (US). Edited to add: housing involves inanimate objects. Dating involves another person to consent to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:01 PM
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Housing is necessary to survive and is an inanimate object. A house isn't a person and doesn't need to consent. Education as a concept and a system isn't a person. Healthcare is also about bodily autonomy. A dad can't be forced to donate marrow to their dying toddler, even if that's the only way that toddler will survive. Dating isn't a right or necessary for a happy, healthy, enriching life... most of those other things are. One person's freedom and rights ends where another begins. You can smo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:01 PM
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Well certainly some men and some women are socially inept, but there are also people who 'lack meaningful connection' or 'lack emotional intelligence'. Although I think there is a lot of overlap between 'socially inept' and '[lacking] in emotional intelligence'. Women get to be pickier than ever Anyone can consent to whomever they want, regardless of gender but they are not picking personality Most people do need to have someone who has a compatible personality who they have chemistry with in ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:53 PM
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We know that being single for men is almost always not a choice Almost always? On the latest US data wasn't it more than a third of the single men who were single by choice? That doesn't seem like 'almost always' but to be fair I don't know how it is in other countries and don't have their data. For example, I've seen plenty of posts making fun of men who prefer "traditional" type of women or men who make a list of their standards for a woman on r/NotHowGirlsWork That subreddit often has to do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:47 PM
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Plenty of people, whether fit or not, would turn down a workout date. Or a date where you're focused on your physical task instead of getting to know each other. For safety issues alone I wouldn't go on a nature walk/hike on a first date, and I prefer to go on my walks or work out alone anyway. I could definitely see the hiking date working out for some people (say they met through a moutaineering group) but most people want to be in a relaxed environment where they are facing the person they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:38 PM
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It's also hard to see someone's face across the table if they are hiking next to you or behind you on a nature trail. You miss so many of those important first facial expressions and getting to know them that way. I like to sit or stand across from someone if I am meeting them for the first time, particularly for a date. If you're on a small family trail with families coming down it every once in a while... you're going to be walking single file as nature trails usually aren't wide. So you're ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:34 PM
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Even when I'm in my peak condition I don't want to do anything physical with a date unless we end up making out or something. Not everyone finds it fun, sexy, and a good way to meet someone for the first time by sweating and flexing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:32 PM
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I wouldn't do either on a first date but some would. I want the first date to at least start in a stationary place with staff always within eye view. Even a 'family friendly nature trail' might have nobody pass for hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:31 PM
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Not everyone's expecting their date to have to do something intensive and 'high effort'. I certainly would want a first date to be comfortable and easy for all, not 'high effort' or even 'moderate effort'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:30 PM
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There's a reason coffee or drinks are the most popular first dates for many places in many hemispheres.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:29 PM
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Why would you want a first date to throw someone off? Or any date, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:28 PM
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Exactly. I'd go on a walk with someone alone in the woods once I knew them for a while, not if the date was the first time we were meeting in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:26 PM
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I am pretty sure most guys would prefer another type of exercising.... I'm a girl but yes the only exercising I'd want to do on a date if it really went well and we were getting physical... and that's rare that I'd do that on the first date anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:19 PM
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I was going to say that a walk in the country to find a nice place to sit and have a picnic could be at least as pleasant for me as a drinks date in a pub/wine bar. Unless they already know you in person ahead of time, most people won't agree to go out alone into the country with a stranger on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:18 PM
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Most people will not agree to go into the wilderness with you even if it's a 'family friendly nature trail' on a first date unless they've already been friends with you. I certainly will not meet a stranger from online for example anywhere that doesn't have at least a few people and at least one regular staff person/employee (coffee shops, cocktail lounges, et cetera). Some people might be into axe throwing or disc golf. Some are not, either because it's a lot of commitment for a first date, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:18 PM
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If they've been single and trying for years it is unusual/statistically curious after certain ages, but it doesn't automatically mean they are socially inept. Some are shy and just don't get out enough (shy doesn't mean socially inept). Some are just unlucky. Some are in a bad location (live in a small city with mostly retirees or married couples and the few young singles have mostly moved to bigger cities). And so on and so forth. Surely by now we’ve all read of or witnessed enough stories of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:04 PM
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I think it also has to do with a lot of people not doing it in easy view or hearing distance of other witnesses or just other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:55 PM
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This happens regardless. When I was an ugly child, plain pre-teen with bad skin and wearing lumpy, shapeless clothing it still happened. It happened when I was a young teen. It happens even if I'm covered up and nobody knows what I look like. It happens if I'm dressed up or dressed down. If I've been an adult for several years or when I wasn't. It even happens to my mom who dresses like a conservative Mormon and is several decades older than I am when she's running errands or working at the fron…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:54 PM
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They usually do it when nobody (or not a lot of people) are around. I had it happen a couple of weeks ago a block away from a concert, from someone coming in the opposite direction who wasn't at the concert. It was unwelcome and my polite redirection was treated with a scream-shout but at least he stomped away after. I was in the quieter neighborhood of the city, a residential area a block away from the venue, heading toward a cafe. Nobody was around because most of the concert goers were headed…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:50 PM
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It's just not a realistic expectation. I disagree. Healthy couples still maintain a healthy desire for each other throughout the length of that relationship; whether it's 10 months or 10 years, or for the entirety of their adult lives. If it becomes just a friendship and roommateship it's often doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:40 PM
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Any of your comment previous to this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:38 PM
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Same to you. From actual accredited researchers please.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:38 PM
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Oppression? Well it would definitely be creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:37 PM
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You understand staring is considered even MORE rude in a lot of eastern nations, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:36 PM
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Sure there are cultural variations, but staring and leering are considered incredibly rude in most of them, including most of the eastern hemisphere and plenty of the western hemisphere. Just out of curiosity, if I were to wear a codpiece and people started looking/commenting, am I a victim? Who said anything about victims? I just said the people if they are staring will be likely to be thought rude, inappropriate, and a creep in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:35 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:33 PM
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How is monogamy dating someone you don’t want? It isn't but it can be. If you had a society that tried to pressure, coax, or coerce it. It’s a genuinely something that a man need to have to have a partner No they don't. Most men aren't even able to display/hold 1/10th of these masculine ideals, and still get dates/get laid. But the pressure to display them is still there. You're right that sometimes it's mothers and sometimes its fathers and sometimes it's sisters and brothers who keep promoting…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:32 PM
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I mean if the voters want to keep it I still think it should be something the couple both consents too and that it doesn't automatically apply. You can still have a legal framework for distribution of property of a couple who has lived together for 10 years and both made payments on the furniture for example, without having it be common law marriage. For instance, in New Hampshire, both parties have to consent and actually acknowledge each other as husband and wife. That's their call in my opini…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:26 PM
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No as in if you take 100 married millennial and zoomer couples (mostly millennials and most zoomers are still pretty young for marriage), and you take 100 boomer couples, and you look at the same marriage time spans... the younger generations have halved the rate of divorce in their generations. The married couples in generations currently under 40 (zoomers, millenials) divorce less compared to the same marriage time frames for couples from older generations. Among the married younger generation…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:21 PM
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Depression isn't always a temporary state. Sometimes it is (depression being caused from a sudden loss/grief can often be temporary, people find help, process their grief, or have professional guidance or support). Sometimes it's a lifelong thing that has to be managed. As long as you work on managing it and get help for it when appropriate, you're much more likely to find interesting developments and relative health.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:18 AM
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Lol how do you differentiate sexual chemistry from sexual lust? It sounds like you're conflating the two. They're not that different, except that lust can be one sided, chemistry implies both of you are into it. Chemistry is mutual. Lust might not be. It's so funny when girls use buzzwords like this without really knowing what they are saying. Well I think we're done here if that's what you really think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:14 AM
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Yeah absolutely. And as I said, probably no more than those couples who both start out wanting children and then one decides they don't, or both start out wanting marriage and one backs out. Sometimes couples don't work out. Usually though if someone's been set about it and clear about it for years (in my case all my life even when I was a child I never played at being mother or bride), they'd be less likely to have a sudden change of heart. I have been a loosely-affiliated member of a Childfree…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:51 AM
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I'd love to get your definition on "sexual chemistry" Wanting to fuck someone and them wanting to fuck you back. Often it's not a tangible thing, it's just what differentiates a friend from a lover for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:47 AM
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ave you found that that dating pool has upheld those notions of childfree and marriage free when in serious relationships? Yes I've had multiple serious relationships and all of them were with childfree/marriage free people. The ending of them didn't have to do with those things either, (one of them got into a cultish New Age MLM) for example, after years of rationality. I know mwnay childfree men and women are crushed when their partner changes their mind and then wants to have children - with …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:39 AM
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I will only date childfree and marriage free people. Exclusively. We're definitely a smaller pool/the minority (if a growing one) but there are still the better part of a billion of us, so ultimately I can still find good matches in this pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:32 AM
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There's a difference between noticing someone is attractive and leering at them. Anyone with social IQ knows the difference and can exercise it, regardless of what their 'biology' tells them. I'm the thirstiest person I've ever met or read about and I still don't leer at people or scan them top to bottom like some creep. I notice them and appreciate them in my environment and act normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:30 AM
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I've already addressed most of those from the last time. Did you copypaste from that person or are you the same one and your last account got deleted or something? I went through one by one and spent waaaay too much time calling out that most of those studies either didn't support your claims, or supported mine specifically. Edited to add: I found it and the other posters who called you out for similar reasons. ""Adolescent romantic relationships promote lower rates of alienation and isolation, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:04 AM
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I don't think anyone was 'slipping', bot. It was perfectly deliberate and mindful. God damn is perfectly acceptable in many faiths and those who do not abide by a particular faith. I guess we need to get bots for those too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:03 AM
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Lmao. Did 'He Gets Us' pay for this bot?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:01 AM
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Men and women take similar amounts of time after breakups before they start dating again so this doesn't bear out. In fact in some US studies women on average take longer than men after a breakup to start dating again... if they have all these orbiters, and men are caught unawares, why do men start dating again more quickly in so many cases? "There is also research that shows women may remain celibate for a period of time after a breakup, whereas men are more likely to sleep with someone sooner.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:00 AM
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If you overlisten any conversation between two or more women, you find that it is almost always about (1) romantic shit (2) ex's and orbiters (3) hot guy from X film or soap opera (4) what partners did for them (5) what dress is the best to look fine for X or Y, etc. Sounds like you need to get out more. While those things are absolutely valid topics of discussion, as someone who has been both professionally and personally in many spaces with women talking both casually and seriously... this doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:45 AM
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All I see is a made up scenario and Jordan Peterson talking about his grandmother's pubic hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:39 AM
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Lol sorry but as much as women (and men) want to talk up the “single life” that shit legitimately gets old and not having a “special someone” in your life is not what most women desire. Nor most men. I can say this as someone who has lived in several major metropolitan areas in the US and has to swipe left on a good portion of the people on apps because so many are either 'looking for a relationship' or 'open to a relationship' and when I've been on the apps I'm only looking for casual. Consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:34 AM
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Stop making shit up ? You’ll get one woman making a post and a bunch more saying they have the exact same experience in the comments. Of course, all fake accounts /s ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:30 AM
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No I said 'could make'. Virgins can sometimes be impulsive and make the lustful mistake of marrying the first person they want to have sex with, while someone with multiple sexual partners in a lifetime could be far more careful about becoming intimate with someone, turning down hundreds of suitors, only having sex in committed relationships with people of good character et cetera. I was merely pointing out that virginal doesn't mean 'makes good decisions' or 'doesn't make decisions based on lus…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:29 AM
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So do you disagree right now that women with more sex partners are less likely to be sexually satisfied I'd have to look at actual research. If I have time too after the holiday weekend I will but in the meantime IFStudies.org is a trashfire not taken seriously by the scientific community.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:27 AM
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It's so common because it's expected and other options aren't presented as viable. I'm so sorry you had this experience, that sucks, and it shouldn't be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:25 AM
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Each couple is different you'd have to ask them. I'm not interested in marriage but my aunt and uncle adored each other, flirted with each other, were kissy and dreamy-eyed at each other, went on dates together even as they got older and he got fat and bald. Some couples find each other hot even as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:24 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:23 AM
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They dont value the right things in mine. Stability, kindness, responsible..they want Chads who are tall, muscular, handsome, rich, game, swag, has other girls, etc Most people aren't tall or muscular, or conventionally handsome, or rich, or have great game, et cetera... yet most people still get laid, have relationships, and either get married or have live-in partners. Modern day women are so backwards in their thinking and deserve to suffer the consequences of their own terrible behavior. "Mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:22 AM
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Yes and that stops once a human with a penis is involved, women are liberal until their dating standards com up. What are you talking about? Most households, particularly in the US can't even afford a stay-at-home spouse. Both parties work full-time even after moving in in many cases. All they had to do was apply, No they were literally barred from entry until fairly recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:20 AM
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You'd be wrong. It's well documented, studied, and considered. Human connection is necessary to be happy, healthy and live a fulfilled life (for most, there is the occasional happy hermit that maintains health)... but that 'human connection' for the rest of humanity does not have to be romantic or sexual in nature to fulfill that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:18 AM
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Women seem to want to treat marriage as a boyfriend + wedding. Sure women do, and some men. This is why I am fundamentally against marriage. Well I am not into it for myself but it seems lovely for some of my friends and family, I'd never dream of going against their marriages just because I don't want one myself. Vows mean nothing. Sure sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:15 AM
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right now a famous twitch streamer is being sued by his ex girlfriend claiming they were in a common law marriage Okay? Do they have standing? Are they in one of 8 states and in the US where that's a thing? Again, it's not much of a thing if you have to find a famous streamer as an example of it in one of the few states where it can happen to a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:13 AM
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98% of men have relationships with people they like and vice versa decades before retirement age. You think only 2% of men are 'decent'? Overly selective and will destroy a marriage to chase their feels Destroying a marriage would be staying in one where even one party out of the couple doesn't want to be married anymore. It would just fall apart from within slowly instead of a clean break. As far as 'selectiveness' this doesn't make sense. If you truly think women "don't value good men" wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:09 PM
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I'm in the US, as of 2020 only 8 states out of 50 have common law marriage. Of the other handful of states that used to have it, it only applies to relationships from the 1960s and earlier. It's not much of a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:05 PM
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That's part of it too, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:40 PM
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You can't ask random women out anymore like that in 2023. Have you never been to a rave, festival, bonfire party, singles event, club, house party? Sure you can. If you read the room and are polite and appropriate (which I'm sure you are, most people can be).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:38 PM
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Setting, context, and approach are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:36 PM
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Because sitting around and watching you play video games is not very stimulating for your partner. I mean I could watch my guy play for hours but then we also leave home and go out to eat, walk around, watch movies together, travel...work on our own work projects, hang out in the kitchen together while he cooks.... so he has more to his life than games even though he spends hours per day on a console, heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:33 PM
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Keep in mind it depends on the venue, its rules, its management, and the atmosphere of that particular party or night but... Bars Weddings Festivals Raves Cons Art Fairs Renaissance Faires Bonfire parties House parties College parties Block Parties BBQs Dances Themed Balls Cocktail Lounges Concerts Food Truck events Sports events Singles Groups Speed Dating events
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:29 PM
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Yes, people here admitting to making the online spaces worse and less trustworthy so they can pretend to be someone else and fuck up a bunch of other peoples' days... and even I regularly on here have had people suggest or try to pressure me personally into pretending to be a man online to see what the dating apps are like from a man's perspective...when I don't need to use this deception or get people's hopes up to do this... the men in my life sometimes share their app stories with me or invit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:26 PM
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What a weird take. College isn't the only path to social and mental development but it is an important one for many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:24 PM
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I don't think he's ugly and I can see him gracing many a magazine, but he's not my type for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:22 PM
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Well not all, but definitely a lot. I agree though, this image is more what a gay guy finds attractive than a straight or bi woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:21 PM
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Well not all, but definitely a lot. I agree though, this image is more what a gay guy finds attractive than a straight or bi woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:21 PM
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For it to be fun it takes time. Meeting people, getting to know them a little, seeing if the attraction you feel on the screen (if online dating) translates to sexual chemistry in person. Avoiding/weeding out those who have behaviors that are turn-offs. Finding someone you find hot who also finds you hot. It really depends though. Sometimes this is weeks, sometimes months, sometimes years. I have to feel safe to desire someone enough to have some 'fun' with them so I can't just ask out any despe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:20 PM
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Same... I mean I'm not the marrying kind but even for a long-term relationship, I won't enter into it if I don't have sexual desire for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:15 PM
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Agreed. Roommates.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:12 PM
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For some it's not the only component for long-term happiness but it's a big one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:12 PM
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Women have always looked for men to provide and give them things just for being women. No even in decades past where they weren't allowed into anything except low-paying work for the most part (maids, nannies, laundrywomen) there were women who still looked beyond men to gain things for themselves. But many were still homeless or at the least ostracized and made to be servile to their parents they were still living with if they didn't find someone to marry. Cash and prizes for breaking a one sid…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:12 PM
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Two asexuals can still commit to each other. Two people with low libidos can still commit to each other. Some arranged marriages where she doesn't lust after him and he doesn't lust after her, can work out... but rarely. Usually you need desire... that's what sets a relationship apart from a friendship. Plenty of women have decent sex drives... the point of dating is finding someone compatible with you. High libido rarely works out with low libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:08 PM
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Nobody is owed romance. Nobody has to have romance to live a happy, healthy, fulfilling life. People DO need human connection (and most get it) but it can be platonic in nature. That being said, mathematically it's statistically inevitable that people who continue to seek romance will find it eventually. Usually decades before retirement age, most of them starting within the first decade of their adult life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:06 PM
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None whatsoever. It was come up with by someone whose education consists of Bible schools and seminaries not schools accredited for relationships or related subjects/majors, who has almost no experience dating, whose love languages book is religious (it's classified in genre as self-help but also Christian literature), and who encourages couples to stay in physically or otherwise violent marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:04 PM
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They're based on nonsense and don't apply to most people. They are limited in their scope and the authors have no formal accreditation in any related capacity. It has as much use as horoscopes. That being said, if those concepts help someone, great! Problem is when they meet someone who does not either fit into any of those categories, or does not subscribe to that philosophy, it can then create issues if one person is expecting them to fit in a little category that they just don't. The science …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:01 PM
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It can be that they like someone despite that No quite a huge chunk of humanity likes that part of them, not 'despite' that. Some people specifically even week it out. They're not always welcome in that as most people don't want to be fetishized for having partners and most people don't want to be fetishized for being a virgin or having a 'low n-count'... but plenty of couples out there are experienced, with many partners, and attracted to each other, including their history of sexual adventures…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:52 PM
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A 'documentary' is wildly different than an 'artistic project'... it's not a vague semantic argument, the implications of each word/phrase are completely different any way you slice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:33 PM
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It's not like hormonal pills are the only contraceptive so you don't need to present it as a choice between pills or pregnancy. Except I very specifically did it. This is what I said in the comment you're responding to "Some might find better alternatives as far as contraceptives are concerned." I've literally had a nurse try to prescribe me pills when I was there for a different reason and said I couldn't take pills and had another method That's incredibly fucked, I hope you reported them. More…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:32 PM
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Dudes who want virgins only aren’t super common They exist, there is no evidence to show they are common. Yeah high body count women can get married, doesn’t mean it’s not an unattractive trait lol It's not unattractive to the people they get married to, and that's all that's important.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:30 PM
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I'm sure the number of partners someone had in their life impacts the current relationship or their next one. Not numbers but if someone learned something from their last relationship perhaps. If it was not the case, why divorce is most likely to happen if someone has a high body count? It's not most likely to happen for this reason... it's most likely to happen if they marry young; that is the number one indicator of divorce... marrying under 25. Having multiple sexual partners prior to the mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 11:11 AM
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The same things I like in any gender. A sense of humor, an ability to communicate, kind to people and animals and not mistaking kindness for weakness in others, someone who knows how to have fun and how to be dedicated... and how to be dedicated to fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:10 AM
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Well when I noted 'any birth control currently on the market' I was including all forms. Either you're using birth control of some kind or you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:06 AM
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In the US it's 4 for women and 7 for men. Fresh and Fit is not a source for accurate data on... almost anything. I find people with less experience as more intelligent because they will be more able to form a bond with someone, Ability to form a bond has nothing to do with either number of times someone has had sex or however many partners. Then explain to me how a man can make her partner more excited about him than a previous sexual partner who is more attractive than him. Because just because…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:04 AM
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Really? Many weeks of asking out ten women you are interested in every week? That's mathematically fascinating to say the least. It's very, very, very likely your luck will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:50 AM
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You don't get to decide what the purview of this subreddit is. No the description, rules and mods do... and that's what I'm basing this on. Furthermore, you are making the assumption that the absolute numbers of men who cannot find an intimate relationship will always remain small. No I only noted that a) it's not this way now and b)... here let me quote myself from the exact comment you are responding to "And if some day it were true" In other words, I am not making the assumption and in fact I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:48 AM
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Pretty much every single survey out there says more women want to get married than men in Japan. Wanting to get married can coexist with not wanting to get married if it makes you worse off and your life suck. Wanting to get married doesn't mean you will agree to get married just to satisfy that desire. Few people in Japan live with parents after marriage anymore(3.9% of newly marrying couples live with parents in 2011 and it keep declining) it was only common until ~90s Where did I say live wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:46 AM
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When I was in middle school I started to learn about that sweet spot in various kinds of purchases where past a certain dollar amount the quality didn't improve but up until that point it definitely did. For example generally $350 hiking boots are just as good as $1,000 ones but much better than $100 ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:41 AM
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Japan has some pretty incredible nutrition... not sure where you're getting that. Also Japanese women have all different hormone levels from normal range to abnormal range... just as any other nation. Testosterone plays a role but it's more nuanced than that. For instance some people have normal hormone levels and still are more thirsty than any man they've ever known of.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:40 AM
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No most women need to find them attractive in some way (though everyone has a slightly different range of features they find appealing), and most women would still need something other than him being sure of himself to know if they're interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:38 AM
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It's mostly red and black pill men in this subreddit. Them and some of the women do the opposite of demonizing it. But also, it is something of an inappropriate place for someone talking about their personal struggle in a subreddit that is pretty much exclusively about gender and dating dynamics between men and women...not simply a subreddit focused on acknowledging the suffering of the small minority of men who don't date at various points in their lives or don't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:37 AM
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The main issue is when it is always assumed that this is the implication No it isn't. It's usually when someone says 'if women don't do a) b) and c) then violence will happen. Which isn't even true, most incels for example never hurt anyone. And if some day it were true it would make no sense to bring it up in a dating/gender dynamic sub as it has nothing to do with women but rather in that particular individual's mentality. It's not that 'women won't change'... it's that women have nothing to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:34 AM
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The reason is that most of these women gave their best year to attractive guys by having hookups with them or being on their roster. I Most women (US stats) have on the low end of single digits in sexual partners in a lifetime. Most men have almost twice that. A third of marriages begin with a hookup. If she's with you because she has no knowledge that there is anyone more suited out there that would seem like the more 'beta' of the options. It's like you're saying 'she doesn't know any better'.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:26 AM
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Most guys will just check out and stop contributing to society. Right but even if that were the case (most are still motivated by a need to eat)... the discussion of how to deal with it or think about it doesn't belong in a dating/straight relationships debate sub. Women who don't consent have nothing to do with acknowledging that some men (a small minority of men) aren't having access to an optional and not-necessary-to-live-a-happy-healthy-life romantic and/or sexual partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:24 AM
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If you think a 30%+ and growing share of the male population being locked out of sex and relationships won’t have any downstream effects, I don’t know what to tell you. Right but is that an appropriate topic for a sub about debating gender dynamics, since a person not consenting to another person is perfectly legitimate and not a bad thing? It seems like it would belong more to a mental health sub or a 'being celibate and healthy' sub. Women who don't consent don't come into the picture at all a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:23 AM
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Most women don't experience men coming to their rescue... and haven't thought it was a possibility for most men to since they were young children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:21 AM
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How many weeks in a row exactly have you been asking out at least 10 women (whether out touching grass/running errands/or online)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:19 AM
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Women with plenty of sexual partners still very often get married to men they love and who love them. The women who "have a 'high' body count" aren't usually looking to date anyone who finds it unappealing that she has a high body count. And plenty of us with 'low' body counts wouldn't date a virgin-hunter or someone who only seeks out virgins or people with only 1 or 2 partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:19 AM
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No one wants a used up woman get over it. Sex doesn't use someone up.... And stop acting like women don't care about body count . They care just in the opposite direction. Women HATE virgins. No plenty of them are the reasons virgins get laid later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:17 AM
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Can you find a source that isn't from the Institute for Family Studies which has been removed from journals and consideration for falsifying data and using bad data science to serve their self-admitted conservative traditional religious agenda?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:15 AM
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Having a high body count comes from lustful mistakes, which inherently is bad behavior. Not really. Someone who is a virgin until marriage could make a lustful mistake by marrying the very first person she had sex with, meanwhile, someone with a double-digit number of sexual partners could have declined the advances or declined sex with the first several hundred. Having a healthy and active sex life doesn't mean you've made a single 'lustful mistake'. Someone could have sex just once per year af…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:15 AM
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We don't want to increase the chance of being in a relationship where the woman had way more attractive partners in her sex life (tall, conventionally attractive, etc). Why? Isn't it a compliment to you that she went for you and wasn't interested in staying with people who were conventionally attractive? Also, what if she just had one person in her past but he was much hotter than you in your estimation? How is that different?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:12 AM
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I can't in good conscience encourage anyone to 'spend more time here' but all of those things are fairly regular occurrences here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:11 AM
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The sandwich jokes still occur in this very subreddit on the regular. Some people never left the older decades. Or take their references from their aging grandparents.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:10 AM
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Holding back as in she's using them deliberately to manipulate? Sure. Not if she just decides she's not interested in doing that. That being said, if the act she is not interested in is a dealbreaker for him... he can leave. For example I doubt I'd want to be with a man who didn't enjoy receiving head or offering a particular act I most enjoy. But that doesn't make him 'beta' if he simply has a boundary for himself. It just makes us not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:10 AM
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Yeah you literally improve muscles by breaking the muscle fibers. The soreness shouldn't limit your activities the next day or two but it should still be sensed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:08 AM
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If you are actually challenging yourself you should always be a little sore the next day, but not enough to keep you from doing physical things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:07 AM
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Yeah I feel like people looking for this nice sweet thin girl thinks she'd be totally cool with someone calling her mom a 'beached whale' or her sister, or her best friend from high school, or her boss, or her when she gains 10lbs from pregnancy....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:07 AM
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Yes. But I did not oblige. I left when I was still a minor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:04 AM
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Some dudes just pay to watch a movie with someone and rub their feet; sex doesn't even enter into the equation. Some just do it to relax in between girlfriends, and treat it like a spa day. Some do it so they can test their boundaries in a controlled, paid for environment. Maybe they want to look into being dominated but would rather try it out before springing their desire on a new gf/bf. As long as it's consenting adults there is nothing wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:03 AM
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Those last two would be a win with me for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:01 AM
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Most people readily acknowledge that not having sex when you want to have sex sucks. Or not having a date when you want to have a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:58 AM
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Only if the person talking about it is saying women should change their behavior so more men they don't want get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:57 AM
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Not really. I always decided if I wanted to date, kiss, or sleep with someone before I even generally knew their income and budget. In fact, very extreme forms of wealth can be a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:56 AM
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It depends on how much sex with a partner that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:54 AM
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Most normal people with healthy dating lives have friends of various genders. Plenty of men and women can be friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:53 AM
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Eh plenty won't reject you for that depending on the reason why. For example if I were looking for someone I wouldn't mind if they were a 30 year old virgin, but the reason why might make us incompatible. If the reason is religious, for example, we're not going to be compatible so I wouldn't continue/agree to date them. If it's just they've never had the opportunity even though they ask people out or even date them and it's just never gone 'that far' that would not be discouraging at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:51 AM
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Absolutely true. And fine for someone who has your ideal n-count to find your n-count interest unattractive and move on to another potential date/mate. I was a late-bloomer in the realm of sex. Even for my many years as a virgin and my still 'ideal' (according to the weird boundaries of many in this subreddit) n-count, I and my other virgin friends avoided virgin-hunters like the plague. We wouldn't have dated someone interested in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:49 AM
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Do they even exist ? Yes the latest data in the US shows that there are more and a larger percentage of sexless women than sexless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:45 AM
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It depends on the app. Most I only see someone if we both liked each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:41 AM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:40 AM
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When your grandpa got in because he was white and your friend's grandpa couldn't get into any college hardly at all because they didn't allow black people or they couldn't afford to send their kids to school because none of the high-paying jobs allowed non-whites, yes legacy admissions can absolutely be race-based.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:38 AM
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They kept Affirmative Action. In the armed forces. They want minorities to die protecting oil, but not to get an education. Absolutely let's get rid of legacy admissions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:37 AM
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I had someone make me a bridesmaid even though we'd barely talked in years. I tried to talk her out of it, but she really wanted it so I obliged. It was fun but I still don't know why she didn't choose one of the other friends, they were much closer to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:33 AM
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It got worse with COVID. People who previously would have at least had the decency to brush when their breath got stale now can't sense it so they think it doesn't exist. Not gendered either; women are just as capable of having poor hygiene. For the sake of all that is decent, people, take regular showers, care for your teeth twice daily, and wear antiperspirant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:30 AM
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You'd rather they led someone on...or not dump the other person before getting with a new one? Sometimes it's health for people to take long breaks in between partners. Sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's neutral. Sometimes the person leaving already made peace with it, processed the inevitability of the breakup, and healed in the month before they fully made the decision to break up, and they don't need anymore time to 'regroup'. Most women average a month to a year after a breakup before dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:28 AM
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Or maybe she just didn't want him and had enough integrity to be honest so they both could find a good match. Leading him on after knowing it was not a good match anymore would have been more along the lines of 'unresolved emotional issues'. Staying in a romance where you're not a good match or you don't truly like them/want them anymore would be the unhealthy emotional decision. Sometimes things fall apart. Sometimes people change. Sometimes the love just isn't there. Or sometimes love just ain…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:26 AM
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Nah, I prefer Android users. But I make exceptions when I like the person at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:24 AM
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. If you sure of yourself, in mind and behavior, many women will give you a chance. No I won't give someone a chance just because they are sure of themselves... but yes confidence is a good thing and has a lot of general appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:23 AM
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People whose best times were before 30 are probably just living shitty lives. Plenty of people 30+ are doing cool shit and enjoying themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:23 AM
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I've been an adult for more than a few years and even the supposed 'list' on Two Chromosomes doesn't have any doctors who will do a bisalp. They keep saying I'm too young. But I'm old enough to make a decision to have a kid (a permanent, life-changing decision) but not to not have a kid (a permanent, life-changing decision)? It's ludicrous. Also insurance will pay for a lot of maternity care but not really anything for a bisalp...even though the former is much more expensive and fills up the hos…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:22 AM
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What women do you see who have expected sympathy from men regarding 'manspreading'?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:19 AM
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Taxes are supposed to work for the people. The people already paid off the student loans. The government just decided that a small handful of fraud-committing PPD recipients and multimillionaires and billionaires get the handouts instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:19 AM
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It's not even adulting. Most people learn not to harass others in elementary school age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:16 AM
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Most women are well aware even from (sadly) childhood that nobody is going to step in an 'save them from harassment'. Although depending on the place you have a moral and legal obligation to help a child who is being harassed. Most people don't help the child being harassed though. Some participate in it. There's no protection as an adult either, certainly not from men in almost all cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:16 AM
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A pregnancy has more side effects even in best case scenario than a lifetime of birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:13 AM
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None of those side effects are as risky as a single pregnancy though, hence why 90% of women have taken oral bc for part of their lives and 70% use it regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:13 AM
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They are much safer to take for a lifetime than a single pregnancy is for the body. But it depends on the person of course. Some might find better alternatives as far as contraceptives are concerned. Where do you see people pushing the pill on women? I grew up in a very progressive place and still had to seek out, work on, and wait to get them. It's much easier now as an adult but I still have to initiate and perpetuate every little thing regularly. There is not a week that goes by where I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:12 AM
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Some of us do. I have only had good side effects from it for the most part. I continued to take them (with physician approval) even for the years I was never sexually active or expecting to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:11 AM
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A baby puts your life's quality and medical well-being (even if you're not carrying it) at much more risk of detriment than any birth control currently available on the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:10 AM
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No the studies were delayed due to men experiencing... the exact same side effects (and less intense in most cases) as women. Things that are considered a-ok for women but 'too taxing' for men. Don't get me wrong, I want hormonal birth control to be available for everyone with as few side effects as possible but it's rich that the reason they didn't continue some of the studies were that the men couldn't handle what women handle regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:09 AM
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This subreddit is one of many things that keeps gender studies' major working....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:06 AM
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They sure were happy to leave it in for the armed forces though, and legacy admissions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:06 AM
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A group of people in this subreddit considered 140lbs at 5'6" to be 'severely obese'.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:05 AM
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Sure it is. If you're making close to or more than a billion dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:04 AM
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They both consented. Some skinny guys are only (or mostly) attracted to fat girls. Take your pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:03 AM
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You'd be so pissed if we were out there posing as straight men on the apps and stealing all your girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:02 AM
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Women wear these things home alone and also at all girls' parties when they're not even gay. In fact, some of us would actually dress in even fewer pieces of clothing and smaller bits of fabric if there were no straight men around. Some of the top results women provided for the 'what would you do if there were no men for one day' thing was swimming nude, walking topless, walking at night in no bra.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:00 AM
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She also calls it an artistic project not a 'documentary', just people in the comments did that but people are putting words in her mouth to try to make her look like she's claiming to be something she isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:57 AM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/14mzvhc/i_interviewed_a_bunch_of_incels_as_part_of_a_film/ She said it was an artistic project... not sure why you said 'documentary'. People in the comments used that word, OP was very clear that it was an artistic project for an art collective. And it didn't seem like she was claiming to have solved anything, she was just sharing her observations...again...for her art project.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:56 AM
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Having to emotionally regulate someone or have someone treating you as responsible for taking care of most of their personal problems. Yes any two people close to each other will generally confide in each other and support each other. But a) it needs to be a two-way street and b) one shouldn't be thought to be responsible for the other's emotional regulation, self-actualization, finding themselves, et cetera. You're not supposed to treat a partner like they are your mental health specialist. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:53 AM
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I don't actually care at all what I look like. Then your only interest should be in looking how you want, hygiene so you're not a menace to anyone who has to be in a room with you, and your own health. And that should be anyone's interest anyway. People who work out, work on style, grooming, et cetera should be doing it to look how THEY want to look, now how they think some potential gf/bf/ef wants them to look.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:50 AM
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Most 25 year old women want to date other people in their twenties.... only at the end of their 20s are some women actively looking for men in their 30s, and only in their early 30s in most cases. May/December pairings exist but are in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:42 AM
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As someone who has been on a few first dates with women of the same age: they can seem really excited and interested during the conversation as well as entire date and then hit you with "Actually I just see you as a friend." Yeah some of us are very interested in our friends otherwise we wouldn't be friends with them. You two having a good, fun, excited conversation together doesn't mean there is mutual romantic or sexual chemistry. Doesn't matter if she doesn't "feel" it. Yeah, that's what cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:40 AM
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When the company is actually someone you enjoy being around, it's never boring....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:37 AM
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The blood of the covenant can be thicker than the water of the womb. Sometimes the truest dad you'll ever had is a step-dad, not a bio-dad. Sometimes the truest mom you'll ever have is both your mum and your step-mom. There are so many endless variations of family. Sometimes your step siblings are the brother you never had and always wanted. Sometimes they are trash. But good strong loving families can come in all different manners.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:36 AM
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You're denying the existence of hundreds of millions of women. Someone choosing not to be in a relationship doesn't mean they are any less capable of it than anyone who chooses to be in one. And even for the subset of people who aren't good at being in relationships (and this subset occurs both in people who want a relationship and don't want one), it's the more responsible option not to be in one. Asexual people exist. Aromantics exist. People who realized or know they are happier single exist.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 01:57 AM
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Ah okay, if you look up further in this thread someone specifically was focusing on a subset of domestically violent men in Korea.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:54 AM
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Most guys figure out what a woman looks like without makeup the first time they have one spend the night and it usually isn't the make-or-break as far as if he'll see her again or still be attracted. Same with any guy who has ever been on a long hike with a woman (most women at any rate do not wear makeup while hiking). Same with any guy who has seen a women's swim team at his school, or often some of the track team as well. Same as any guy with sisters or mothers at home. Same as any guy who go…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:46 AM
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Someone reminded people the other day that arguably one of the most popular video game characters of all time is a grimy, fat, short, blue collar guy with a high pitched voice. There's plenty of room for memorable, interesting characters that defeat challenges and enemies even if they don't look conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:41 AM
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Considering most men don't meet any of these or hardly any of these conventional attributes yet most men get laid anyway, and most of them before they're even old enough to really have a lot of these attributes it's not as important to the population of women as is said. For instance, someone could like delicate waifish goth guys with eyeliner and also a guy with a big beard, a big belly, broad shoulders and tattoos. Most people date people with incomes similar to them, most people don't have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:40 AM
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They're referring to farmers buying mail order brides. Okay but there are plenty of farmers who do not commit domestic violence. And honestly, if you visit a country unless you are out in the country itself and not the cities where most of the men are, you're not going to run into predominantly farmers. Also a Passport Sister isn't the same as a mail-order bride. Mail-order brides put themselves in an insert expecting to be taken care of and not have a lot of autonomy in choosing a spouse, a Pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:34 AM
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Why do you think all Passport Sisters would go to Korea and specifically try to get with the domestic abusers there out of all men in the country? There are domestic violence rates in every country, if you see your love in a new one you probably (unless you are very unhealthy) would specifically seek out those who do not have a known history of domestic violence. This is such an odd thing to think that Passport Sisters would automatically choose a small subset of violent Korean men instead of oh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:31 AM
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Both of you know that Ashley Madison is waiting for you Cheating has always been an option but (US at least) there is a lower percentage of infidelity now than in any decade prior since it was first researched, and the gender gap is pretty small, only 7%, with a slightly smaller percentage of women cheating than men. Even if you look at a demographic of 20-somethings there is only a 1% difference (with women cheating a sliver more than men). There are always options. The point of a relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:29 AM
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If you're some regular guy looking to get with some relatively attractive member of the opposite sex, you are in direct competition with 35 year old tech millionaires on steroids and unlimited willpower to make up for lost time A teeny, tiny percent of the population. 6'5" 4th generation football quarterback genetic lottery legacies A teenier, tinier percentage of the population Instagram model fitness influencers in town for the month with 8 Tinder boosts on standby A tiny percent of the popula…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:14 AM
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Well no problem then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:43 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:42 PM
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What do the chunk of men of a particular nation who have histories of domestic violence have to do with being a Passport Sister in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:42 PM
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There has never a statistically significant number of men who "really, really wanted a career woman." Where do you come by this idea? A lot of career types are attracted to career types. Having compatible lifestyles and values is often critical to romantic/sexual connection. Never once in the history of the world has a man thought "Damn, she's a CEO. That makes her a 10 out of 10." That's an entirely different argument. Just because some guys are into career women (plenty of them out there, beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:41 PM
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<Any girl with more than 100-300 IG followers is undatable. Even if you just have family and extended family on there (plus their spouses and children) you might have more than that. You also need to realize that in some cases social media is also something like a CV/Resume. It can be used for networking. The 'followers' might be others in the business, even if that business has nothing to do with 'influencing'. You could work in a legal office and have a lot of lawyer and paralegal followers. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 10:01 PM
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Isn't he a billionaire? Additionally, he and Beyonce both work in music and live performance. Having that in common and respecting each others' work and need to tour, and all that being a public figure entails can bring people together, and there are very few people who have reached the heights of not merely wealth but popularity and longevity in the industry and who can appreciate what it's like to live in the spotlight. Also I wouldn't use them as an example of a great relationship as he cheat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:57 PM
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Women generally just aren’t that interested in men no matter how attractive because they aren’t as horny. Arousal state or intensity doesn't necessarily have anything to do with who you pursue or how many you pursue or accept into your life, or how much you are interested in someone. Plenty of people with high libidos also also have the ability to self-moderate. Even when they do find a man attractive, they keep their ego so closely guarded that everything has to be PERFECT for them to open them…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:53 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:48 PM
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being poor rarely stops people from shopping It absolutely does. i dont see how shopping can only be fun for rich people? When someone who only has a $30 grocery budget goes into the store it is often taxing, not fun. When someone who could theoretically spend $30,000 (not possible in a grocery store but this is just a hypothetical) and still have more than twice that in a single checking account, grocery shopping is fun and easy. the term "retail therapy" exists for a reason, It's a concept tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:44 PM
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They might just mean they live well within their means (have a low rent/low mortgage modest home, keep their food/entertainment expenses low, et cetera. For example, I am not making as much as them but I try to skimp on things where I don't mind the frugality (generic mustard brand) so I can spend more money on the things that are meaningful to me (traveling, saving for my early retirement).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:40 PM
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Why would any man want to marry a career woman? They marry them all the time. Sometimes because they both have the same priorities/similar interest in a career path, sometimes because the guy lives more low-key and likes to be with someone heavily motivated in this way. Sometimes just because your work doesn't necessarily reflect who you are and you have to pay bills. People who lead very corporate lives publicly often aren't the same way at home with a partner. I'm not trying to convince you to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:38 PM
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Right, I wasn't necessarily speaking to your situation. I just mean sometimes people will cut corners on costs for appliances that cause health problems or break down in a couple years, instead of investing in a better quality appliance that is still in their budget that doesn't have any safety recalls and will last for decades. Skimping on healthcare, food quality, things that protect your feet from the ground, safety gear, proper maintenance of a home for example is where (some) frugal types c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:30 PM
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But in terms of partner-seeking, it has much of a less effect on women's success than it is for men. I don't know, a lot of neurodivergent women are less likely to uphold normal etiquette. It's generally seen as much less appealing and much less inappropriate for a woman to break that 'hostess etiquette' assumption than for a man to. The threshold for a woman seeming 'mean' is much, much lower than for a man. A woman who merely doesn't smile as much (but still more than her male colleagues), or …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:28 PM
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So you're saying women should be Passport Sisters?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:25 PM
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Do we know how many of them by choice though?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:24 PM
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I disagree. I think most of this subreddit even those of us who would disagree would acknowledge that it's much more common for even non-creep, non-misogynists who aren't getting dates in Japan to stay inside and not socialize more than men in the US. Even though in Japan they work fewer hours in the US and are less likely to commit suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:24 PM
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The expectations that change for a woman when she goes from being single to being married in Japan are extreme, and usually unappealing/not worth marrying someone. You go from being someone with some level of autonomy to being expected to be in a servile role not just to the husband, but to his parents and aunts/uncles. Now some people are okay with that (or maybe their spouses and spouses families don't buy into that archaic oppressive notion and have a healthy dynamic in regards to a particula…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:22 PM
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In the US if the guy has equal interest and attempt at custody he has equal outcomes generally. Most of the time custody is agreed to beforehand without the court involvement and usually the men choose to have the woman be primary caretaker. As far as her taking half of 'your' stuff... it's not your stuff if you agreed to marry in a state without a prenup where you know the marriage contract in that state means all the stuff (her stuff, and your stuff) is now belonging to both of you. Most coupl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:14 PM
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Yes, men are also capable of having motivations for self-improvement or learning new things/building new things outside of sex and/or romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:44 AM
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I pretty much never know someone's income until we have dated for quite a while. Plenty of brokies have a flashy car and shoes and the illusion that they are wealthy. Plenty of millionaires look a bit shlubby or don't have labels showing on their clothing. Having money doesn't make them better in bed, more fun to share a meal with, or more compatible. Youth and beauty do have some benefits and some disadvantages but only for a few years. Most people don't want to be desired for their youth and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:28 AM
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I don't believe "single by choice" is a thing that actually exists for women You'd be wrong. It's still not a majority of women but there is a more than two-digit percentage who are happily "single by choice". That doesn't mean their lives are bliss, it just means they would be worse off if they were in a relationship. Single by choice generally just means that a guy at the level they want to date isn't interested in dating them long term. No asexuals and aromantics exist. Also those who might s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:19 AM
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Correct, they get it from not being conscious about what they're doing. Most people get it from sharing drinks with parents or friends as a kid.... Edited to add: True sharing smokes/bongs
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:16 AM
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Nothing. Being alone can be good for someone. Also not dating doesn't mean being alone. Most humans are not healthy alone long term, but they don't need a girlfriend/boyfriend to not be lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:15 AM
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It depends. They could experience growth and make a good partner and just not have met the right person. Some people just run into a lot of bad people just by happenstance. Red flags aren't always visible, particularly right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:13 AM
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Also, friendly reminder that nearly 3/4ths of people in the US under the age of 50 have oral herpes. Stay frosty out there. It's actually thought to be higher than that, but most people don't get it from dating.... Most of the planet has it, that's why controlling outbreaks and managing health is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:12 AM
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Why would they do that? What incentive do they have to bully you? Kids are mean sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:03 AM
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Men. Funny thing is, I experienced the majority of it before I even had done more than kissed, before I had even dated more than one guy, et cetera. They would do it to me while the girls thought to be 'virginal' were asking me to arrange private rooms at parties for them to have sex in with different guys. I was sex positive/anti-slutshamey (still am) so I'd help them and keep their confidences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:02 AM
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The problem is, the behavior being seen as 'cute' 'funny' or 'quirky' makes it more difficult for women to get diagnosed and get help managing it... so it can actually make life more difficult. That being said, I don't think autism is 'easy' for anyone in a world that is generally only built for the neurotypical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:50 AM
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The main distinction is women who WANT to be single or prefer it to being in a relationship are happier single. Women who DON'T want to be single and prefer to be in a relationship won't necessarily be happier single (some of them will though).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:38 AM
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Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:25 AM
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Your counter source is the Catholic News Agency....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:25 AM
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Sometimes when people crave salt what they really need is electrolytes in some form for example. It's not that they need the ruffles, but the craving can sometimes be a signal that something essential is missing that the body needs. Not sure about the muscle recovery issue though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:23 AM
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It doesn't even matter if the guy would definitely not 'hold things like that over my head' I still will never agree to a first date if we're not each paying for ourselves or splitting the bill. Never once have I let a man pay for me on the first date (and after that we take turns or continue splitting indefinitely).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:23 AM
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I've met great people organically and great people online. But I prefer online. There are many reasons I prefer online dating but one is that I hate becoming really interested in someone I meet the 'old-fashioned way' only to find out we're not compatible (they're a smoker, they want kids, et cetera) whereas it would have been a basic tag on most online dating sites or easier to work out before we both got closer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:22 AM
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Most relationships start online. Most are hetero and involve a woman. It's the number one source for relationships. You'd be right we don't know if it's the number one source for dating in general when people are not interested in a relationship, but I'd be surprised and there's no reason to believe it isn't also for that. If girls were using it just to kill time then it wouldn't be the number one source for relationships...and most people ultimately do get into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:20 AM
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Also...most women are not on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:15 AM
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Couldn't this also just mean you are missing a particular nutrient or vitamin that you need to make up for?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:12 AM
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Just a note, there are people even in this very subreddit who admit to pretending to be women on their alts over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:12 AM
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Yeah I've never met someone with a higher libido than mine or even read about them and yet my 'n-count' according to some people on this very subreddit is one of the 'ideal' ones and on the low end.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:10 AM
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Marrying young (under 25) is the #1 indicator of divorce, so waiting/having long engagements is a good idea. Additionally, infidelity, addiction, abuse, and lack of commitment are top reasons for divorce, so avoid being those people or accepting those people into your dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:08 AM
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Right? You can statistically lower your chances of divorce by not marrying young, by marrying someone you're compatible with, by not having a lot of outside factors that put strain on the marriage (controlling family, long-distance work, et cetera) and it still doesn't make you immune from the marriage breaking down at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:07 AM
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This may have been asked before but do those who disagree with redpill have a model of dating dynamics that is better supported by data? Most people have sex, relationships, and a live-in partner or spouse before retirement age (US). Most people are not redpill and do not follow any redpill behaviors. So most people are successful in alternate dating dynamics. It's not a monolith either. People have all different sort of ways they find dates, date, and enter into relationships (or decide to be p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:05 AM
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Thanks! I don't think I'll need it, it doesn't seem like the odds need help but I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:03 AM
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I don't think the problem is that women are being pressured to be promiscuous. I grew up in a somewhat progressive household in a very progressive area of the US. Even with this, more of the propaganda was pressuring me and other women to NOT be promiscuous, and to get married and have kids. There is far more cultural pressure to not explore sexuality and to get hitched and reproduce than there is in the other direction. School, popular culture, parents, even a lot of social circles encourage fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:01 AM
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I keep that in mind as well. Some are still in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:57 AM
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Yeah most people are average looking. Considerably conventionally ugly people aren't that common. They're on a narrow end of a spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:56 AM
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Does that time frame give you enough time to save up for it? Can you talk to your dad about it and ask if you can come along if you fund your way? And ask what your little brother did in order to have his trip funded?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:55 AM
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I don't know, I'm looking forward to it. Older men and women around me and who are or have been my mentors include a lot of people who are doing better and enjoying life more than in their 20s and are happier in their dating lives and relationships. Aging (especially if you are lucky enough to keep some health for a few decades before the body falls apart), doesn't seem so scary to me. I'm looking forward to retirement some day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:54 AM
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It's almost as though Reddit isn't indicative of the demographic known as women of a certain age or men of a certain age, hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:53 AM
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Right? Those are rookie numbers, gotta get those numbers up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:52 AM
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I can't speak for that subreddit but there are a few that will ban you if you ever have posted in this subreddit. r/Dating for example
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:51 AM
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For example, its literally been confirmed that women on dating apps rated 80% of the men as unattractive It hasn't been. People mostly reference outdated blogs from OK Cupid that actually wasn't data but again (a blog) and even if you took it at face value or falsely extrapolated it to the dating public at large it showed that women sent messages to a broader and more diverse variety of appearances of men compared to the men who only messaged/communicated with a much more narrowly attractive gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:46 AM
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If that city is in the US the men will on average have twice as many sexual partners in a lifetime as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:44 AM
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A minority but a significant one. 1 in 3 marriages begin with a single hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:44 AM
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The public eye as well as touring schedules and filming schedules do a number on even the healthiest relationship. Everything is scrutinized by the public, you have security issues, you're touring for months on end with almost no breaks, she/he is filming for a year or doing prep and training. Some of the reasons these relationships break down are the public eye. Sometimes it's the same reasons why most long-distance relationships don't work out. Also when your income is reliant on your 'brand' …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:39 AM
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It's not cheating if the initial couple agrees to it ahead of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:31 AM
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When you cheat on someone you are invoking harm for your temporary lust or desire... that's not love. It's possible the person did love that person up until they decided to cheat on them... once they followed through, it's not a legitimate love. The act of violating this and risking their health and life to a partner's sexual imput they didn't consent to, just to get off... or for affection for someone else but not enough to actually end things properly with the person being cheated on... it sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:30 AM
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Yeah OP is literally talking about the 1%. Actually a sliver of the 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:27 AM
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Yep. My phones are always older than those of pretty much every guy I date (by my choice). I don't like to have the 'latest' consoles, and buy fewer than one pair of shoes per year on average (usually only when two or three others are wearing down/ready to be tossed or sold to consignment. There are still things I like though (and won't skimp on).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:01 AM
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Frugal doesn't mean better (it doesn't mean worse either). Cutting costs can sometimes be a detriment, also someone who is interested in frugality for the sake of longevity. It really depends on the individual, how they execute it, and how compatible they are with the person they are sharing bills/expenses with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:59 AM
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women have the chore of shopping in the first place because they enjoy it more. Hell no, many women hate shopping. Shopping is generally only fun for people who are very financially comfortable... that's not most women or most men in the US for example who are living paycheck to paycheck and drowning in debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:58 AM
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I read a study that said women make 80% of purchases, Purchasing decisions, yes, because in a household even where a man benefits from those decisions (washer/dryer, dishwasher, oven, shampoo) and uses those products and appliances, predominantly it is on the women to get those things purchased/replaced. It really depends though and this is changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:57 AM
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But then buy cars they can't afford and spend a shitload on gaming consoles and PCs. There's nothing wrong with allowing yourself purchases though as long as you are managing other bills/goals in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:55 AM
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Just a note, it's mostly people over 40/45 who are into luxury jewelry/household decorations. That's why we zoomers and millennials are being blamed for the collapse of those industries. Additionally, luxury handbags and precious-metals jewelry often go up in value not down once purchased.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:54 AM
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Toys are investments. You can sell them. Designer handbags often go UP in value after you buy them as well. Most guys who buy a gaming system aren't considering it an investment. Or the guys who pay $1,000 for special edition Nikes. They usually plan to wear them, which immediately decreases the value of most of them. At any rate, in a dating sub the only way this is relevant is when a couple is together long enough and sharing expenses that they have to create a budget. Even then as long as the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:53 AM
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Most people regardless of gender are into 'the finer things'. But it varies not just with individual which is the main factor, but also culture and generation. For example, in the US couples used to care about an expensive wedding ring, a dinner set of fine china, a hope chest. Now women and men currently under 40 (most millennials and zoomers) are being blamed for the collapse of these industries because it's shown they are more interested in shared experiences rather than overpriced common gem…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:50 AM
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You don't know how even a handful of women in your country are dating. Also what you observe for 40 minutes in a restaurant isn't going to tell you much unless there is incredibly loud and egregious behavior of some sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:29 AM
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80% of women (US) aren't even on Twitter. Also the kind of person who openly gives advice on their own social media pages is a very narrow demographic that is not reflective of most women. That being said, a woman who has dated/has relationships/has seen their friends struggle with dating or has experienced it themselves has a lot more knowledge and practical experience than someone who has rarely even asked someone out, never dated, et cetera. Though I agree that there's a lot of information on…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:28 AM
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Plenty of people are into fucking chairs. Pretty sure of the 98% of of people (US) who date, have sex, relationships, and a majority of that marriage or a live-in partner dwarf the 2% that includes asexuals and 'people into fucking chairs'. Why? You have offered no explanation. Most relationships (US) are not arranged. Most begin with mutual attraction instead of a business arrangement. More than 90% of people have sex by age 25 (and most of them by age 17), most are married or have a live-in pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:09 AM
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Lonliness is a cause of suicidal tendencies Loneliness is not cured by dating. Loneliness alone is not a direct cause of suicidal ideation, there are so many other variables, none of them having to do with dating or women who don't want them agreeing to date them out of a warped sense of obligation to a random person rather than the person in their life there might be mutual consent with. You don't solve suicidal ideation by giving someone a gf or pressuring someone into dating. It has no place …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:55 PM
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But the problem is that Japanese men didn't used to jump in front of trains, they only started this after their traditional society fully caved in the 1960s. You're drawing a false connection between 'traditional dating/marriage' falling off and suicide. There are a lot of socioeconomic and cultural reasons this is happening. Lack of gf/baby mama isn't a legitimate cause of depression or suicidal tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:44 AM
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Who's going to pay the salary of the caretakers? A business that is not exploiting workers pays decent wages. A well paid, non-hungry, non-desperate staff has less turnover, less payments needed for constant new training. People who feel appreciated and respected at work. In state run facilities, taxes. For instance in the US, we could easily change how much we spend on the military and make it instead so that some parts of military spending are cut and that goes back into the coffers to support…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:42 AM
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Like if I tell a girl I'm interested in tall women and then exclusively date short women because because I don't find tall women attractive, that is literally lying to her. No it could just mean tall women aren't interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:32 AM
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TRP doesn't describe 'normal female language'. Also TRP does not appear to be successful. Most of the people who identify as TRP also identify as struggling in the sex or dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:12 AM
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If someone is jumping in front of a train they have a myriad of struggles they need help with that have to do with mental health and the material conditions of their lives... not some individual selecting not to date them. Japan's problems can be solved a million ways that don't involve pressuring Japanese women to birth babies or date people against their will.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:03 AM
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That's not how it works. What you're going to have (and what you already have in say Greece), is 2 or 3 pensioners for every working adult. Pay caretakers a good wage, make their ratio of caretaker-to-patient reasonable and untaxing, give them benefits, stop demeaning the position in society, bring in more immigrants, are just a few things you can do that won't have anything to do with unethically and draconianly trying to just get couples who don't want to couple up or don't want babies to birt…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:02 AM
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Keep in mind: all you get out of a LTR is someone constantly nagging and complaining Not if both are doing it right. Plenty of relationships have a much better dynamic than what you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:58 AM
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In most cases, but not all. Demisexuals exist (those who need to get to know a person before they know if they desire them for a relationship, or romance in general, or sex), but they are a minority. Some people occasionally have someone who is nowhere near any of their 'types' catch their interest. But in most cases mutual attraction is needed at the start of every LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:56 AM
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We only need really 500 people to several thousand for healthy genetic diversity and a self-perpetuating population. Maybe a few hundred thousand more based on other factors, but still well under a billion and there are plenty of ways society can be just fine that don't involve half of the population being financially desperate and dependent and uneducated or undereducated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:30 AM
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Half of the population being uneducated, unable to provide for themselves, and desperate doesn't benefit society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:29 AM
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Firstly the Taliban is extremism not merely 'traditional Islam'. Most Muslims abhor the Taliban. Secondly, even though Islam will likely overtake Christianity in terms of followers/participants in the religion as followers of Christianity are on a steady decline, most Muslims around the world are far from anything like the Taliban and for good reason. And in more and more places some people are culturally somewhat Muslim but still want all their children regardless of gender to be safe, strong, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:28 AM
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Why are we acting like women having more autonomy, freedom, and access to education and being able to support themselves is a bad thing? Educated, financially-independent women (or any woman) is not responsible for a man being lonely. Though some support men in their lives in other ways just as any good friend, sibling, parent, colleague does to different extents. Doesn't mean there is any onus to date, or to date a specific person they don't want. A woman getting a degree and wanting to date so…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:25 AM
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Definitely! There are some of men in this subreddit for example who won't date and aren't attracted to feminists no matter what they look like. Or anyone who isn't a tradwife-type. There are also some men in this subreddit who won't date a trad-type even if they are physically their type. Physical attraction is necessary in most dating scenarios for most people (not all, but almost all). But you might still find something unappealing that breaks that attraction (maybe you find out she's a smoker…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:21 AM
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I'm a cis woman....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:14 AM
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I was referring to adapting workouts to align with where hormones are during the menstrual cycle. For one individual woman. Ah okay, my bad. I'm just wondering now if I should change my workouts but I don't really have much of a cycle because I take bc back-to-back and skip all my periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:14 AM
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In my case it just means we're both contributing equally to whatever we're doing together or whatever space is shared. It's not going to be exactly 50/50 but still balanced. I think that's why you see a lot of different takes on it, because what is egalitarian is going to depend a lot on the couple and their individual needs, strengths, and limitations. Neither person is "the leader", the person who is better at something or enjoys it more might be designated (by mutual agreement) to handle it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:12 AM
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Sure they should have. It's not for someone else to decide, it's between them and the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:06 AM
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Think a bit on that why that might not be in the cultural vernacular equal to the way it is used for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:04 AM
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Cycle syncing is just law of averages and the fact that cycles are slightly different lengths and not consistent. https://www.figo.org/news/period-syncing-myth-debunked
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:03 AM
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Sure it is. Ugly people still get laid. Poor people still get laid. A vast majority of young men are having fairly regular sex currently (the last GSS data I believe was around 80% from a month or two ago), and women it's somewhat less. Men are doing 'better' than women even in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:02 AM
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Not really relevant so I won't get too much into it, but last year I brought in a considerably higher than average income for individuals in the US. This year will likely be similar but I'm not quite in the thick of my busy season yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:01 AM
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It depends on the culture, but in many, including the US a broad shouldered guy with a bit of a belly is going to be considered more attractive than a guy who is underweight. It really depends on a lot of factors though. For instance Timothee Chalamet is probably a bit underweight, but due to having some muscle and a decent frame is considered a heartthrob for many.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:58 AM
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Social conditioning absolutely has some influence, I agree (and that's not a good thing in most ways) but many people shake it off or don't buy into it fully. Plenty of people are attracted to those who look nothing like social conditioning. We should be pushing for people to be more accepting of certain traits and less accepting of others. Physically? No. If you mean things like teaching people to recognize and avoid abusers (any gender), sure, but that's unquestionable good. Not pressuring peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:56 AM
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It's not just women getting married a little later, men too. Still most (US) either marry or have/have had a live-in partner by their 30s or 40s. Of those in generations currently under 40 they are marrying on average 1 to 2 years later than earlier generations and have halved the divorce rate (yes when compared to the same marriage time frames of older generations). You put 100 millennial and zoomer (mostly millennial since most zoomers are too young to marry) married couples next to 100 Gen X …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:54 AM
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Firstly, subreddits are not representative of the average population of any demographic. Suddenly, I rarely visit except when people in this subreddit guide me there and often not even then, but the last time I went like three of the top posts were celebrating people doing or honing traditionally feminine "tradwife" crafts and skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:51 AM
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And if someone is only with you or even primarily with you for your bank balance...that ain't love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:57 AM
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I mostly date men who earn less than me. As a good percentage of men in the US do not make what I do. That being said I have also (occasionally) dated millionaires, multi-millionaires, and found that they were no better a date or more fun to spend time with than people bringing in very little income. A man being well off doesn't make them a better date, more interesting, more fun, more decent, even more relaxed than a man who is poor or in between these types.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:56 AM
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People who are poor, out of shape, emotionally still have a ways to go to meet a good baseline, and don't have hobbies that are 'cool' still date, still have a right to date, still have sex and relationships and have throughout human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:53 AM
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That's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:52 AM
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You sure? It's the very definition of the word. Take the tinfoil off. Most men only want a blowjob and a sandwich. If you dated men or spoke with men you'd realize some don't even like blowjobs. Most humans like sandwiches though.. that has nothing to do with dating or gender dynamics though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:52 AM
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Why wouldn't most women do this? If a guy is attractive they will want to try different things with him. Even very high libido women who are curious still don't just suddenly become turned on by something they weren't into (fecal play for example) just because someone is attractive and into it. With the right guy? Are you kidding me? Not at all. Women are more sexual with certain guys. I'm that guy so I would know. I'm sorry but your personal experience doesn't extrapolate to huge swaths of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:51 AM
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Women can have a healthy sexuality without attention whoring on social media, For some women and men social media is a terrible thing, for others it's a healthy outlet, and it can be these things regardless of if some random observer judges it to be 'attention-seeking'. There's nothing inherently wrong about consenting adults performing or watching performances. Most women aren't on OF and most women on there can't make any profit from it. 666 deal? Similarly, more attractive men don't need the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:49 AM
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I know it’s right for me though. I don’t really see myself being happy in an totally egalitarian relationship. Exactly, you're like my cousin whose wedding I loved going to and who is very happy with her spouse and vice versa. That's the point, some are happy in that situation, someone like me would be in hell. Just out of curiosity, what kind of relationships do you prefer? For yourself, I mean. As far as traditional versus modern? My preference and the only ones I'll agree to are more modern a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:45 AM
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Sure it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:42 AM
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Then you agree that some women are like this? Sure and some men. Not most, not all. Not enough to generalize. The limits are completely different depending on the guy. You know it and I know it. Really not. Most people don't just suddenly find something a turn on or acceptable that they didn't before. Someone who doesn't like poop play is not going to suddenly like it because a guy was hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:41 AM
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A woman is not a child. Your idea is cute but get real. Additionally, some children definitely are more authoritative than some adults. Another word for that is good woman. Or someone who would allow their child to be beaten or raped if they obeyed the authority of some types. Obeying every command without question makes someone a sheep at beats and at worst someone who will just commit atrocities all day because someone told them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:40 AM
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All these note is that depression is complex, not that chemical imbalance doesn't play a factor or isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:38 AM
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That's kind of my point. The kind of person who would care about the number instead of someone's health and if they find their appearance attractive would be concerning because it's not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:37 AM
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Or get exposed to viruses from others in their vicinity, et cetera, et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:36 AM
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Yep sort of like without firefighters, fires spread from your neighbor's house to yours. Untreated illness spreads, becomes more inflamed and contagious, and people who can't afford to go to the hospital instead come to work sick and by proxy of you infect your baby who dies of pertussis, or run you over in their car because they can't treat their fever or their compromised vision, or pull out a gun on you at the checkout stand because their unmanaged back pain and their untreated brain inflamma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:35 AM
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People around you would be less sick, less stressed, instead of paying your taxes for people who didn't get treatment until they were at death's door and now it's an ambulance and emergency instead of a few weeks of antiobiotics before it became bad. You realize you're still paying for their healthcare now, but now it's when it's a huge medical emergency instead of the minor sinus infection it was a few weeks ago when they couldn't afford to go. Paying for prevention even taxwise is much cheaper…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:33 AM
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Workers would disappear out of thin air. Stagnated wages, inadequate staffing, non-existent or poor quality training, fewer workers' rights and protections than even some less developed nations, I could go on and on. Only a sucker stays at a job that is inadequate to their needs and progress if they have other opportunities. UBI would just create more competition in the workplace and companies would need to actually pay wages that were acceptable and offer decent work conditions. A business that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:30 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:28 AM
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Some of those are a reach, but it is well known that it effects your dopamine sensitivity. So does working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:27 AM
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Porn is fine as long as it's all consenting adults involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:26 AM
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This was a global pandemic that killed pretty quickly. Though a slower, less guaranteed, less common death, smoking is prohibited in a lot of restaurants now, even though second hand smoke doesn't cause cancer in 100% of people exposed, and for those it does, it takes decades usually to develop whereas COVID can develop in days and in cases where it is deadly, take them out in weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:25 AM
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I wore masks and still do in certain contexts because I was emergency contact for someone recovering from lung cancer and another who had pneumonia as a child and already has breathing problems. I was the only person they could trust in their home when they needed something. Additionally, the guy I'm seeing does it in certain contexts mostly to protect a severely immunocompromised loved one he sees every other week, but also because he doesn't want the erectile dysfunction that can come with lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:24 AM
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I don't know there are a ton of anarchists at sci-fi and cosplay conventions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:21 AM
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Chemical imbalance is made up It's most certainly not 'made up'. It also isn't always the course of action for those who need help. Or the only course. If only the men who committed suicide at higher rates than women had gotten help earlier they might be alive today and living better lives. SSRIs are also prescribed to treat menopause and those symptoms, they aren't prescribe to treat 'feminism'.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:20 AM
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Yeah of the men who commit suicide in vast numbers compared to women, SSRIs would have been appropriate help for some of them in addition to other person-to-professional therapies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:18 AM
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25% of feminists are not on SSRIs. SSRIs have nothing to do with gender dynamics or dating. Women are more likely to get help when they need it. Depression is not caused by feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:17 AM
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I have like seventeen different 'types' even if you oversimplify it and none of them physically are rankable... it's pretty equal... maybe a slight preference for men with buddha bellies versus washboard abs but only like 51% to 49%.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:14 AM
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She sounds either cruel or socially inept or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:10 AM
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The function of the jester was to mock the monarchy in an entertaining way....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:10 AM
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You realize that most people function regardless of hormonal cycles and that men have a monthly testosterone cycle as well, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:09 AM
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It would make the birthrates among people who DO want kids go up. It would make the birthrates among people who DO NOT want kids go down.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:08 AM
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What? I can't tell if this is a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:07 AM
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Of course. And men aren't owed commitment either and women aren't owed sex. But to be together successfully whether for a night or forever, you both need to be on the same page about both of these in addition to other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:06 AM
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Burning desire is great, but plenty of couples who never want children share it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:05 AM
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Nowadays I see many gold, -digger TikTok accounts with millions of views That's your problem right there... TikToks. You can't assume you know what women want or how they are generally from Tiktoks. Content creators usually are looking for views and they know provocation gets likes. Also your TikTok is curated based on what you find exciting. My TikTok when I had one was full of exotic botany, physics lectures, and goth eye makeup tutorials (some of which yes had millions of views). That doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:01 AM
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Well yeah I'd tell them immediately but I still would leave the date. I have no patience for people with no social IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:58 AM
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Sure they are. That doesn't make the question not come off as rude, and of low Social IQ. You usually can determine by looking at someone if they have a weight you like. If you're "bringing out the calipers" it gives off someone who wants an excel spreadsheet rather than a person they are simply attracted to. They have a right to do the socially unacceptable thing of asking, and they also have the right to be rejected (or to reject someone who does not want to answer or whose answer doesn't meet…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:57 AM
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When I was in high school I looked like I was 97 lbs soaking wet but was 20 lbs heavier because of so much pure muscle from swimming and water polo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:48 AM
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If someone asked me, I'd ask them why they want to know. In most cases I would then tell them my weight and promptly say my goodbyes to them and not go on a second date, not because of the weight, but because it shows they have no social IQ. If they just wanted to know because we were going on some kind of rope-line adventure later and it was a safety concern that would be different of course. Someone can ask, it's just considered weird and not 'good weird'. And they can decide not to date someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:47 AM
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Feminism is about men being able to choose to be a stay at home dad and women too. Feminism is about choice to be what you want to be, regardless of if it shares some commonalities or none with older dynamics. It's about men not being shamed if they want to stay at home and wear an apron all day and do domestic shit and women not being shamed if they want to become a CEO.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:41 AM
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Your response here is just a self-report. They're making a point and you try to discredit them by guessing that they're crying about it just because they disagree with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:39 AM
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Yes 'obey' has quite a few negative connotations unless you are talking about a dog. Submissive definition: "ready to conform to the authority or will of others; meekly obedient or passive. "a submissive, almost sheeplike people" So yes, someone who conforms to someone just because they are a man or thinks they have inherent authority just because they are a man would be someone you might be concerned for as men do not have inherent authority or superiority. Additionally, passive isn't a positiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:37 AM
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Exactly. I like making good money and I'm an inappropriate person to be doing much of anything in the kitchen. My parents and siblings however, of various genders are all excellent cooks. I would be miserable in any sort of traditional arrangement, unhealthy an unhappy, but my cousin and her husband have a much more traditional dynamic and they both seem happy as clams. I was happy to celebrate them at their wedding and I'm happy to keep her company in the kitchen while awing over her mastery in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:28 AM
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Most people don't view traditional relationships with hate unless someone is being exploited in the relationship. It's usually if someone tries to argue traditional should be something everyone participates in (even against their will) or is somehow superior to more modern dynamics which understandably gets criticism. Honestly, when you grow up in this kind of environment and witness this traditional dynamic maintained in a healthy, loving way (no one is forced to do it), you kind of get used it…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:23 AM
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It's funny to imagine a woman typing "strong hot naked men" on google hahahaha. More than 70% of women in the US do something like that however. It's only funny if you're not aware of how many women and how high a percentage of women watch porn. Men are much more simple about this. Not necessarily. There is diversity in the types of porn men watch and the way they access it as well. But it seems to be that women are usually not turned on by just looking at a attractive man. Some of us are very v…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:14 AM
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She won't respect you, if you don't act like a man and take up higher position in the power dynamic of the relationship. Plenty of women (not all) will lose all respect for someone who tries to dominate a relationship. Even traditionalists will expect a man to sometimes trust her over his own judgement in areas of the couple's life. For instance, some traditional types will entrust matters of home, food, clothing, childbearing, household accounting, et cetera to a wife who will take charge and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:02 AM
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Having multiple sexual partners does not limit one's ability to love or connect, lmao. Men have almost twice as many sexual partners in a lifetime as women (US) and you could easily argue they have just as much capacity for love and connection. In some cases you could even argue that more experience makes one better to differentiate love from a crush, and true connection from infatuation (but it depends, sometimes there are of course very perceptive people with limited experience).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:00 AM
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I can vouch that this "Then there's a secret menu of degenerate things they're only willing to do with guys they really like." is bullshit except in individual cases. Plenty of people have hard limits regardless of the partner and what they feel toward them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:57 AM
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Unfortunately it's true. When a woman really wants to sleep with you she will do anything to please you. That's simply not the case with plenty of women. Not everyone is a people pleaser, some people actually become more reserved (at least temporarily) when they are more attracted because they want to make sure they don't make any rash decisions. Someone, even someone I initially found incredibly hot and wanted to take home will kill it in the bud if they try to rush sex for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:54 AM
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Yep I have never met or heard about anyone with a libido as high as mine... that doesn't mean I will want to (or will) agree to sex quickly or be attracted to someone who brings it up too soon or tries to rush it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:50 AM
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Not necessarily. A human does not need a romantic or sexual relationship in order to be happy, healthy, and fulfilled. A human DOES Need to have some social connections and close relationships with people, but those can be friendships, family, mentorships, colleagues, et cetera. None of those have to be romantic or sexual in nature. That being said, sex and romance are wildly popular, and most people experience them throughout their lives, more than 90% by age 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:42 AM
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Yes but the main reason that fell out of favor was improved education regarding things like health and knowledge of the damage it caused and reduction in quality of life. Similarly, pressuring or forcing someone to date or marry someone they are not attracted to would be similarly unhealthy and damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:35 AM
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Most people are told that their entire lives. That doesn't make it of interest to everyone, healthy for everyone, or practical for everyone. Individuals can decide what they promote, but a societal-level attempt to control, manipulate, or pressure a segment of society into giving over their bodily autonomy to someone they don't want to, or spending optional romantic time with someone they don't want is impractical, unethical, and downright draconian.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:34 AM
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We're only a few decades out from women (not men) being lobotomized for having "too much" of a healthy sexual appetite. Some of the most popular religions in the world are based on a creation story of a woman wanting to have more experiences/and knowledge and being demonized and blamed for it. At any rate, sex positivity should be something promoted for all genders, same with consent, creating healthy boundaries, avoiding bad relationships, et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:29 AM
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Please return to my dance-card area. That would have been hundreds at a single dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:08 AM
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I am well aware of the issues of american lack of healthcare and of the struggles of american poor. Ah, good, your earlier notes about women and their finances seemed to indicate the opposite. I have seen low wage american social media because of my family in america... I doubt they are budgetting anything or doing any of what you describe No. It is not hard for women to get into the academia. Most can't even afford it. More than half of women in the US in fact. I can't take your arguments serio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:07 AM
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If you don’t agree with persuading, cajoling or pressuring people to do something then you’re just disagreeing with the very concept of society. Dating someone you don't want doesn't promote the concept of society at all. Men for example are pressured all the time to make money, to be more masculine, to be a certain way,… to even get a chance to have a partner. I'd argue that such pressure is unethical and unhelpful. Men being pressured to do all these things does not make them healthier, often …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:59 AM
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Just about every ancient people prior to religious civlizations. Additionally, the majority of Sweden, Vietnam, Norway, Denmark are currently secular societies in the manner in which they are run, where etiquette and morality are not based on any earlier predominant religion. Atheist societies coexisted with pagan religious groups in Ancient Greece and other civilizations as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:53 AM
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Fiddling with things. Making improvements though not necessarily in a focused, efficient way. Creatively making adjustments mechanically, creatively, or otherwise. This can be something like carpentry, minor electrical work, adjusting shelving liners and reorganizing the kitchen, garage, reworking the ends of a knit blanket a few times to fit onto a certain chair more snugly, taking apart a lamp just to see how it works and put in a custom bulb, little adjustments for the fun and satisfaction of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:45 AM
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A single parent home is not a broken one. As long as a growing child has their needs comfortably looked after and loving figures in their life who guide them, they do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:41 AM
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Some women very much do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:40 AM
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Most of the feminists in this very subreddit have men in their life whom they love and appreciate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:38 AM
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I'm afraid not. That sounds like something a love coach would say. Credentialed experts, researchers, medical professionals do not support that even romantic love is the primary or only way to have a high level of "life satistication".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:36 AM
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Quite a few 'hoes' don't marry until their 30s or 40s....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:35 AM
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'80s hair bands, Boy George, '70s long flowing hair with flower patterns and flowing, frilled shirts....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:38 AM
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If they're not into you they're not the right match.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:16 AM
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It should pay for half of the expenses strictly related to the child(ren).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:15 AM
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Yes some think someone not wanting to date them is cruelty and oppression. It's definitely concerning but more for their own health than any societal danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:12 AM
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If I'm single and looking and the setting is appropriate, I start a conversation with him and ask to meet him again some time in the future. But it really depends on the context. If I'm at a DJ'd show and I know the DJ I'll offer to play something they like (if said DJ agrees) for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:08 AM
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Living off pettiness and redirecting anger toward people because of their gender sounds sad and exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:07 AM
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Hormones + sucking action.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:05 AM
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Generally doesn't even cover the percentage of groceries the kid eats and the gas used purely to drive them to school, practice, friends' houses et cetera. Want to know what my friend who is a single parent veteran on disability was awarded for two kids (their ex makes above average wages)? Less than $60 a month. Doesn't even pay for food for the kids for the time they spend with them or the gas for transport that is purely child-related.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:04 AM
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Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:55 AM
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Most child support doesn't even cover the grocery and gas bills for just the kids' part of the monthly food for people. A third of child support in the US is never paid, not even a single penny of. Do you not realize how expensive it is to raise children?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:55 AM
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Most feminists date men and enjoy and like the men they date. Many feminists have men who are friends, have had adult men mentors and teachers some of whom they liked and appreciated, et cetera. Even lesbian feminists sometimes have a cadre of dudes who are friends and love their dads, brothers, and their teaching assistants or professors. You have a misconception.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:53 AM
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That's assuming we all like someone "in spite of their height" instead of finding it hot, whether they are 5'1" or 6'1". If I date someone shorter than myself it's not 'in spite of his height' it's because I also find shortness hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:51 AM
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I don't think movies are always insignificant. Yes they're entertainment, they also are able to convey someone's story, and even if it isn't based real people, it's based on real feelings. A man being touched by that is definitely not 'icky' to me, but that's the beauty of the diversity of women and men on this planet, we like different things. Also a lot of times people have been holding their head up for months, years through a lot of cry-worthy shit and didn't cry... and then something small …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:49 AM
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The right match is going to de select you if they meet you when you’re at you’re worst. When you're at your worst, perhaps. Most people, however, are not anywhere near 'their best' when they meet people, even if they could plan for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:45 AM
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That's not true. Gamer groups do this all the time. Bachelor parties even when they don't have a dancer, hiking buddies, people having a casual bbq, and so much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:33 AM
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Do it as a block party so people can trickle in at will. Or at a park with big signs saying (everyone welcome). You can even lean into it with signs that say 'Trying to make friends, come join my party, free cans of soda and Funyuns'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:33 AM
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It depends on the severity. Some people just need improv classes and etiquette courses with someone who works with neuroatypical people (or is just open to it, has a good environment for it). Other people need more professional help, someone who specializes in autism or is a worker who specializes in helping people reacclimate to society after being out of it for a long time. There are credentialed professionals who do this but they can take a while to seek out. It's more difficult in the US of …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:29 AM
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I'm not sure you'd be able to glean the interior emotions of 50 people even if you were an empath or something... But I think at that point you might consider taking a friend/minder with you to observe your behavior and find out how in the world you are disgusting so many people in your approach or by your propositions to them. It could be a run of bad luck, but that many people genuinely "disgusted" by just a normal reasonable polite approach? Very unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:25 AM
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Morality has existed and life has mattered to many civilizations that had no religion or drew away from religion. Communities throughout have supported and nurtured each other, regardless of which god they were following throughout history regardless of which god they followed or if they followed any.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:23 AM
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I don't know, religion also tells people to rape children (child brides/child grooms) and to kill (in the name of their god or creed), and to destroy the lives of others (see human history). Religion isn't inherently good or bad though. It's what someone does with that belief and if following those beliefs harms others.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:19 AM
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Religion is responsible for most of the worst atrocities of mankind, however it has also inspired people to do beautiful, life-giving, soul-enriching things. Religion is like money. It can be used for good or evil, but systems powerful in it tend to abuse, exploit and harm. There is nothing wrong with someone having a belief as long as a) it doesn't cause them to harm other people when following it and b) they don't pressure, or expect society or any individual to follow it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:18 AM
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Fungi have an advanced network that also communicates and understands risk and detriment to their system... plants send communication signals across their tops to warn their 'sister' trees when giraffes are starting to eat the leaves further down the line. Plants are also sensitive to music. Just eat nothing. ; )
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:17 AM
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I don't know, cows are pretty sensitive, even chickens for all their goofiness have some advanced behaviors et cetera. Even plants can respond differently to different types of music, communicate through chemical release and adjustments of fronds to send messages through networks, and fungi are an entirely different animal. Maybe we should just eat nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:15 AM
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What I find sexy for people some definitely will not: Urban gardening Gaming Water Polo Tinkering Composing Writing Foraging Skateboarding Thrifting Styling (clothing, grooming with an artistic eye) Painting Sketching Beadwork Playing an instrument Cooking Collecting (not hoarding) but having an organized beloved collection, even if it's just 'pennies prior to 1990' or 'bottle caps that twisted into a weird shape' Swimming Kite dueling Fly Tying Calligraphy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:12 AM
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To be clear my body language and tone is that of someone with severe autism There's a huge range of behaviors and tones for people with severe autism, this isn't helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:03 AM
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The same. I date mostly 20s and some 30s when I'm looking and if I was only looking at appearance I'd swipe right on more than half on the apps (and a third or more out in the world organically). The big things that narrow my dating pools for people I will 'swipe right on' are values and personality/lifestyle based. I won't date someone who wants kids or marriage for example. That's the big disqualifier. Plenty of people either look good or just normal and not ugly at all. Of course this is very…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:01 AM
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While online dating does have its own distinctions, the visual aspect of it is not that much different from someone sending a portrait of their daughter to suitors some time ago, or decades and earlier people putting someone's name on a dance card after only seeing their face and asking the dance chaperones their name. Sometimes they'd get a few tidbits about the guy but certainly not as much as a dating profile. Most people need someone to look attractive to them in order to be attractive. Very…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:59 AM
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Everyone could always be better. That's what life is, a process of (hopefully) trying to be the best you. The right match will meet you where you are, and if things go toward a longer-term angle, will grow with you into their own path.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:52 AM
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I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about. I have the luxury of spending a LOT of time online during certain parts of the year. I'll spend it how I choose. Perhaps you should follow your own judgement though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:35 AM
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How does "some men" try to "protect their loved ones" validate some kind of victim narrative? Rape isn't a narrative, it's inherently bad. The fact that fewer people participate in it now than almost ever is a good thing. Fewer people experiencing this is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:34 AM
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I believe it exists and have observed it being demonstrated. People often fall in love and show each other they care before someone's perceived status is even known, and while most people need to be physically attracted to someone they care about in a different way than they would love friend or family, there is a variety of what people find attractive. And there is a small percent of the population who does not feel attraction/does not recognize if they find someone 'hot' until they get to know…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:33 AM
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It was not. Men have always protected women and feel a lot of sympathy for them. Lmao, no. Now you're rewriting history. If you reworded that to say "There have always been some men who tried to protect their loved ones and feel sympathy, of course that's true. There are good men and have been good men and women throughout time. That has nothing to do with the fact that marital rape and abuse were not only codified in law but taught and encouraged for a great deal of human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:20 AM
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For a proper and well rounded upbringing, kids need to be exposed to both masculine and feminine energy. I don't subscribe to this idea of 'energy' but I do partially agree. A child needs a variety of trusted adults and a diversity of mentors to be healthy and grow and be nurtured. But the primary parental figure being a tomboy mom doesn't preclude this. Butch single mothers have just as much ability to raise a child as anyone else, all things being equal. Same with single fathers who aren't tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:18 AM
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In most relationships, the man is more dominant than the woman. I disagree. I think every couple has some areas where one takes the lead and other areas where another does. Relationships that are one sided like that are ripe for abuse (regardless of the gender of the more dominant one). Consider that both might even enjoy it. I don't think you're understanding me. People who 'enjoy' it would be able to speak up about their needs and have their needs respected from a partner, someone who is a 100…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:16 AM
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No, only compared to some, but this doesn't have to do with intelligence, it's just a side bar that you needed some clarification on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:13 AM
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No most of that was made up of people who had married or had a cohabitating partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:12 AM
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No I'm not personally relevant to all that, I'm using the references a lot of pillers here seem to glom on to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:11 AM
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My point was that the only people that are scared are feminists and that's a good thing. They deserve what is to come. No, plenty of feminists aren't scared at all, they find the claims of people like this laughable (to an extent) and feminists don't usually associate much with people who have this mentality and desire to do harm, but sometimes of course still can be victim to a rare act of violence. Don't get me wrong the violence is still far too common, but it's a tiny sliver in a sea of norm…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:08 AM
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No, but in order to be allowed in certain journals they have to be of scientific merit. The data has to be gathered by actual scientists and researchers and meet a certain threshold of scientific integrity. It's not that children of gay parents don't face some difficulty, just not on average any more than children of straight parents. Both children of straight parents and gay parents get bullied sometimes for example, just sometimes for different reasons. Now keep in mind that the gay couple als…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:05 AM
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Most women are not good with budgetting There are plenty of women who are good at budgeting (plenty of men, too), most people make below living wages in their states and still manage to take care of their necessities though not comfortably. That takes budgeting. How to creatively have filling meals while still keeping the car in gas, the mortgage paid and so on and so forth while working full time and getting new shoes for the littlest that keeps growing. A lot of men are also good at budgeting.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:00 AM
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I honestly don't know, especially since in some places they can pull your tax refund or put a lien or similiar on bank accounts. But a third never pay a single penny of it ever anyway (men and women who owe).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:52 AM
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No the "norm" is less than half that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:50 AM
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That's very difficult if they are a submissive person. Bullies will target them and 'beat out' the decent men. Truly submissive people will be afraid to speak out or won't speak out. They won't be able to choose to dance with/date the decent guy because if you're a submissive person in your day to day life, you'll succumb more often to the bullies, abusers, and the insecure types.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:31 PM
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It was also culturally encouraged, even taught. Of course that doesn't mean everybody did it, but there was a lot more of it then than when it became discouraged and illegal. Women weren't allowed to say 'no'.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:29 PM
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US Census for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:28 PM
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The only "threat" they are is a threat to feminism You literally used the following example... which is the very definition of a threat, and that is the person I was referring to when I was responding to you in my post. "It doesn't take much to throw a brick at someone's window, to ram people with a car, to pull a trigger, or to hit people with sticks." That person is a) not common but b) definitely a threat.. not merely a threat but a violent person who needs to be treated, removed from those t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:28 PM
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I feel like you might need to educate yourself on trans people. 'Transgenders' for example isn't even a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:23 PM
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Femininity is a requisite for a good mother. It's not. You can meet almost no definition of femininity except being a woman and still be a wonderful mother. But tomboy doesn't necessarily mean a woman is masculine I'd greatly disagree as far as traditional perceptions, but for this case you could change it to 'the most masculine-presenting of tomboys' and they can still be an incredible mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:22 PM
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Women who aren’t even sluts get called sluts depending on who the guy she turned down is.. Yep. First time I was called one I was a virgin who had never had any part of myself touched in a romantic or sexual way except my lips (twice) for kisses. A ex-boyfriend. I was a virgin throughout high school and into the early part of my college life too, but because I was a sex positive person who always criticized those who slut-shamed, I was called a slut as well. I only had one boyfriend in high scho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:20 PM
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Trans women and gay men very often act in what would be considered traditionally feminine ways. Are they considered weak, stupid, irrational and useless too? Yes a great deal of society still considers gay men 'weak' because some (not all) of them are perceived as 'effeminate'. Think of the insults traditionally used and still used today for a gay man. They're not being called insults like 'pleasant to be around/agreeable' they're called flimsy, they're denigrated with slurs like 'pansy', 'limp-…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:14 PM
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Why would the decisions be against them? The decisions would be in the interest of both people. Except it wouldn't because a submissive person wouldn't speak out or wouldn't be allowed/encouraged to speak out when it's not in their interests. And their spouse won't inherently know (not even maliciously, just because you can't know someone's needs unless they are able to discuss them with you without it breaking that 'submissiveness' barrier they've been put in) what is 'best for them'. It's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:08 PM
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pleasant to be around and would make a great mother. Pleasant to be around doesn't mean they are traditionally feminine. Plenty of tomboys make great mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:05 PM
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Well, considering that we live in a society where many people think that a man can get a surgery and then magically become a "woman" then I can't help but think you're right.. Are you talking about trans people? Many trans people never even get surgery. 1 in 50 people are intersex and that doesn't even touch the realm of the trans journey. It's not 'magical'. It's science that some people's gender doesn't match the sex they were assigned at birth. And, as noted with the existence of intersex peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:04 PM
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Men were legally allowed to beat their wives (and encouraged to do so as a form of 'discipline') for a good chunk of human history. A woman did not have the similar 'right' to do so to her husband. A submissive woman would not have been even able to run away in many cases. Marital rape in the US was legal until 1993.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:53 PM
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Depending on the generation we're talking about more than 40% of women were abused by their spouses (as in physically, we're not even talking financially, emotionally, et cetera) in the 1950s and earlier for example, and 85% of domestic violence cases that actually had any legal acknowledgement were against women. Keep in mind it was legal to beat your wife (and encouraged, as a form of discipline!) in the 1950s and earlier in some parts of the US as long as the damage was 'limited'. Officially …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:52 PM
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Why when all science and research shows that children do just as well with gay parents compared to those with straight parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:10 PM
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And showing that as long as the kid has a supportive remaining family, and has their material conditions at a steady and reliable level, there is no negative impact compared to two parent families.... A woman who wants to be a single mom has enough to spend often 5 or 6 figures on IVF. The kid will have a lot of supportive adults in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:09 PM
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Yeah I'm all about the 'choice' in pro-choice. You can't bar adults from having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:05 PM
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I think forced child support is a good compensation for that, In the US only about half of divorces award child support. And of that amount, 33% of the parent owing it never pays a single penny of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:04 PM
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The kid will probably never meet the actual biological father, and they may resent that later. Yes this is true if someone marries someone out of 'pressure' and it doesn't last and they disappear from their lives. A child would also resent being kept in an unhappy family. But the latter is worse for them. The woman will have to work overtime to provide for the kid, who will likely be raised by nannies and child care. She will be more tired. Most women who can afford to deliberately decide to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:03 PM
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Of the tiny sliver of 8% of women in the US making 100K+ most are married or successfully dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:53 PM
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Most older career women are dating or married....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:51 PM
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Stalked, harassed, sexually assaulted. Having your job which pays for you to live threatened, your self-esteem from the respect you had gained for your accomplishments as a man now fall apart when you are perceived as women... these are not little things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:50 PM
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It doesn't take much to throw a brick at someone's window, to ram people with a car, to pull a trigger, or to hit people with sticks. Agreed, and those people should be removed from society to heal, to get help, to be reduced as a threat to their community, neighbors, fellow humans, to face consequences, and et cetera...not given a girlfriend or a Hustler's University subscription. Your entire post more or less is criticizing Tate which isn't really relevant I didn't bring him up, I was simply r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:48 PM
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There’s many ways to push something onto people without it being forced or coercion. That's why I mentioned manipulation and propaganda with this agenda of pressuring people to want who they don't is also unacceptable, unethical, unhealthy. We can totally have a society that rewards monogamous living style more than other. Slippery slope if you hinge it on monogamy. I'm all for parents getting more rights to take time off for their families, and people in general regardless of their relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:44 PM
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It's not easy to make it big in streaming. It takes much more than simply looking good on camera. It also takes a LOT of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:26 PM
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Lmao, did you not see when he invited his fans to his compound and beat the shit out of them? He has professional kick boxing experience.. his followers very rarely. They're often undedicated underweight homebodies who never leave. Sure the fringe is dangerous, and people who think like him can be a danger (especially to women), but not 'women as a whole' just the woman that rare person targets. Most of his fans, even the most unhinged are not like him. They're not going to be physically intimid…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:24 PM
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I am whatever ideology manages to spark an insurrection So self-reporting you are a Nazi when it's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:19 PM
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Libs of TikTok has called attention to a phenomenon the mainstream media refuses to cover, and has been branded an unhinged zealot for it. Do the slightest bit of research into this. They're a unethical, unserious party, who decontextualizes usually the fringe of a particular demographic that is the 'hate target of choice' that tweet, and has admitted to not just criminal but horrific behavior. You're adding YouTube and Libs of TikTok as sources, I simply can't take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:18 PM
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There was a popular female author who dressed and lived life as a man, she developed extreme depression and even ptsd from the experience. Yes living in a gender that's not true to yourself is traumatizing. It's why transition is a treatment only for genuinely trans people. Also that author you speak of had suicidal ideation and depression before the project. Of course the stress of dealing (from the start) with both the same challenges you faced in one gender and now adding on the additional on…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:16 PM
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sounds like rather small issues tbh Well there's your problem right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:14 PM
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They'll usually refer to them as 'landwhales' 'libtards' 'blue-haired SJWs' 'trolls with septum piercings' or any other group that they simultaneously say they could never be attracted to but then get mad at when the people they think fall into those groups get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:14 PM
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Most men aren't stoic neutral-faced unfazeable rocks. Most men get sad sometimes just as anyone. Most men cry sometimes just as anyone. Most men get frustrated. Yet most men still get laid, get into relationships, get married, et cetera. If you are telling a loved one you are feeling bereft, hurt, et cetera, if you are crying because you're sad, all these things and 'the lust leaves their eyes' it's not because they think less of you (if that is the reason they are a terrible person and not wort…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:31 AM
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I didn't have it nearly as badly as you but birth control made a huge difference in improving the quality of my life in this way. Even for the years I wasn't seeing anyone I stayed on it because of the other benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:16 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:14 AM
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And motivation. Between 70% and 80% of men had sex recently and many want to keep women in their good graces and vice versa. Pretty sure the other gays would side with us, the lefty anarchists with all the good tinkering skills, and pretty much all the women of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:14 AM
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We'll so who's laughing 20 years from now when you get the kristallnacht treatment. Are you self-reporting as a Nazi? Classic. No idea who you are referring to They are referring to Jordan Peterson.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:12 AM
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Right? We'll have a good chunk the 70%-80% of guys who aren't currently incelibate, plus almost all the women, plus almost all of the queer community including a great deal of programmers, and a ton of lefty anarchists with incredible explosives skills. Pretty sure we'll be alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:11 AM
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Really? Most of the world's billionaires are women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:09 AM
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Someone using Libs of TikTok as a source on anything, I can't. It's run by an unhinged zealot. Of course there are challenges that are more common among women versus men. Trans women will also tell you they were shocked and appalled at how post transition suddenly their coding credentials were questioned or mocked, (even with new clients who didn't know they were trans and were just responding to the feminine sounding name on the email, whereas previously under their old name that read as male t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:07 AM
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Only 5% of OF performers even make enough to even pay for a power bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:03 AM
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Women are able to live such easy lives that they can acquire education, careers, jobs, opportunities and wealth aplenty using their sexual value alone. What world are you living in? Wealth is the realm of literally the 1%, most men and most women are living paycheck to paycheck (US and elsewhere). Education has mired so many men and women in debt and many more cannot afford to go at all. As for careers it depends on the industry. Women definitely have an advantage in nursing but those advantages…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:02 AM
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What the medical field calls 'mild' includes what feels like being sliced with a twisted knife for one third of every month, vomiting, fevers, migraines, swelling, exhaustion, back aches, breast aches, and 'mild' anemia from losing too much blood. And that's just the week of. Some people get variations of these symptoms or other ones the week prior to this as well so half the month they are in great discomfort or agony. Edited to add, I forgot some people get dysentary-levels of incontinence/dia…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:48 AM
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I understand if someone wants to explore their first sexual experiences with another explorer new to "these waters" et cetera, but one of the things that flummoxes me is people getting mad or insulting women they aren't even interested in who are getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:56 PM
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by the practice "try before you buy" and sex should be between two people who are potentially considering marriage one day. So people who are not into public ceremonies about their romantic life or who do not want to register a contract with the state should remain celibate by your philosophy? Promiscuous people are disgusting because they 1. use and manipulate people to get pleasure What does being promiscuous have to do with using people? Someone who is promiscuous can have plenty of healthy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:54 PM
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Otherwise, spare me a minute to introduce myself. After a bit of conversation you can easily say, 'It's been nice to meet you but I have to get going now' or 'You seem nice but you're not my type'. Basically just try to be courteous, there's no need to be rude This sounds like it wastes someone's time if you're just showing interest in continuing a conversation with someone who has just asked you out only to tell them you're not interested after the conversation, but it's definitely something to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:42 PM
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Yeah it's not an invitation to hit on them... I'm not saying hit on the bartender (that's kind of fucked in many circumstances), I'm saying building a polite, non-distracting rapport with people at a venue can have a positive effect on your dating life and also make you feel less awkward/alone at a bar. I think you were confused when I said talk to the staff... I didn't mean hit on them. I meant just... be sociable (again not distracting them from their work or other customers).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:18 PM
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I don’t care Nope I’m fine banning things for decency sake alone. I don’t care about harm. And yes I’m fine with the definitions of decency to be based on religious beliefs. And as long as I’m able to convince more people then you. It’s a wrap. I think we're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:00 PM
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Possibly, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:42 PM
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But to my point, asking a woman out is a little more emotionally and socially charged than not being invited to somebody's wedding. Not sure I can agree with that, wedding drama can get pretty intense and emotional for some people. There aren't a thousand tiktoks out there TikTok is an entertainment and provocation platform, it's not a place to get information on what a demographic of people is like. I hear all the time about how much gravity there is on the woman's end of these interactions. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:41 PM
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Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:38 PM
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I thought those people were being nice "because it's their job"? They are and you shouldn't presume it's that deep, but as long as you aren't distracting them/demanding you can still be friendly with them and build even a casual acquaintanceship. These professions also consistent of people of various genders, not sure why you thought the 'why not the same for male professionals' applies here when a bartender can be any gender, the DJ too, the promoter, the bouncer (though less often), and a ton …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:37 PM
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Oxytocin is also released when you pet a dog and can happen in between friends in a platonic relationship as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:32 PM
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Not in recent history has unmarried sex been so casual and socially acceptable. That's not true but it's very culture-dependent and time period.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:27 PM
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It's not normal for 30% of men to never find a partner. 98% of men do (technically likely more than that as most asexuals are women not men). That's in the US, that last 2% is even smaller in some places. Most people find one before they are 40, the average person has multiple sexual partners in a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:26 PM
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It makes it seem like he just wants sex/dates, and isn't actually interested in people in and of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:14 PM
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Or you can just make friends with the bartender, or the DJ, the promoters, the bouncers, the karaoke/trivia hosts (not in a way that makes you distract them from their work or other customers, just in an occasional, building-rapport-each-visit kind of a way). Not to mention to a lot of people seeing someone be kind and friendly to the staff is a mark in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:12 PM
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Well it also shows that he's not interested in you, he's just interested in any random women nearby. Most people don't enjoy just being the person that 'ups someone's odds' rather than someone found their t-shirt interesting or their smile delightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:10 PM
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What is your favorite way (not that it's fun) to be rejected by a woman that you wish women would do more often?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:09 PM
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Yes, and the following is just my personal observation NOT data but from what I've seen there are fewer women who are stalkers/harassers, but the few who are on average are more intense and scary than a good deal of the men who do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:08 PM
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Most people aren't sexual predators or serial harassers it's true. If someone's being weirdly aggressive following me and hitting on me, walking into a rough looking bar filled with men still makes me feel a lot more comfortable, because I know that most of the men in there are chill. It's not that I think that they are going to protect me, I'd also feel more comfortable walking into a cafe filled with women. No man has ever protected me from those who have harassed me or attempted sexual harm o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:07 PM
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Right nobody's saying it's easy for everyone or always easy... just that it's a normal, natural part of the consent process. And rejection is common in every aspect of life. Everyone doesn't get every job they apply for. Everyone isn't invited to their co-worker's wedding. Everyone isn't is welcomed for friendship with a particular person, and so on and so forth. It's not that it's no big deal, or doesn't weigh on some people or cause them grief, it's just that it's the nature of consent. And co…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:04 PM
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Rejection is a normal, natural part of life, particularly in the dating process. If someone becomes desperate due to rejection they may need to take some time to work on processing rejection in a way that isn't harmful to them or anyone else. Nobody isn't saying it's a pleasant thing to be rejected. I don't even observe most people chalk it up to being 'character building'. It's just the nature of consent. And consent is a good thing. How would you suggest a woman reject someone who asks her out…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:01 PM
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Moral relativism is an easily debunked position that criminals and those without a logical backbone rely on. Comparing consensual sexuality to degeneracy and crime sounds like an emotional response. It's not about what you find appealing or modest or what a religion does or what a certain sect of society does. It's about what is actually harmful and where the balance is between liberty and harm to others. Someone forcing you to watch their OF is one thing, that is infringing upon you and causing…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:56 PM
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No, not all of them. I was in plenty of vulnerable situations alone with good men who never harmed me too. Statistically that bears out. Most men and most women never harm anyone. Ultimately it's a small section of society who are harmful in this way, but sadly they are repeat offenders and rarely held accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:53 PM
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No I have an interest in these things and there's a lot of bad information out there I like to correct (and I have learned things too, the clitoris for instance wasn't mapped out fully until 2005 and I only learned that it was more than the 'button' which is the literal tip of the iceberg only within the last few years). We all have blind spots. I love to share this information with people and I also enjoy learning something new.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:52 PM
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Too censored, aka, you want to post more TOS-breaking content?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:51 PM
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Owning a bar and being an actor isn't considered 'status' to everyone, not even always generally to the women you might consider relatively 'high status'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:50 PM
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For which part? Almost everything I mentioned unless noted is based on actual data (but particular to the US). I had no beliefs about what was common until I actually read up on the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:48 PM
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Not sure, depends on why I'm being tasked with it and the person asking. I'm rarely the best person in the house to make one. If I'm making it for myself crusty sourdough toasted with a bit of olive oil in a pan, swiss, salami or proscuitto, spicy mustard, pickled jalapeños, a few thick slices of small campari tomatoes and a dab of mayo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:47 PM
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Depending on the person it definitely can. The men getting out of the truck/out of the car when you're 9 and circling you and not letting you leave and nobody in earshot or the few adults who are not doing anything to help a child is definitely not usually an uplifting experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:44 PM
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It is and it isn't. The studies can vary widely too based not only on generation but age (for example in their 20s women are slightly (by 1 percent) more likely to cheat than men, and in every other decade of adult life less likely to cheat than men (but only by single digit percentages). Different countries also have some more variation (having mistresses in England for example is practically codified in law). The data removes suspicious survey answers and they have ways of eliminating dishones…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:42 PM
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It’s all degenerate That's just like, your opinion. One person's degeneracy is another's harmless delight. Selling their souls for a glorified MLM schem People sell their souls every day. Lawyers (not you purple possum), people who work for corporations making products from slave labor (most of them), people who sell bodies and souls to the military to guard opium and oil fields and hurt and kill people, et cetera. In fact, creating sexual content from the privacy of one's home, consensually, is…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:40 PM
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Ah so that's why you're leaving this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:38 PM
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Even if I agreed that there is not a lot of variety in the libidos of both for various reasons, that still doesn't nullify the fact that women want sex too. Clits have much more nerve endings, multiple consecutive orgasms are a thing, women generally experience touch-pressure and pleasure with more precision and sensitivity, et cetera, et cetera. Ultimately what it comes down to is some men want it more than some women. There are also a lot of average and low libido men out there and some high l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:37 PM
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It's definitely not a myth, just doesn't affect some people in a noticeable way. Others very much so. It can definitely destroy one's metabolism. It's so very individual though, as I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:32 PM
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Plenty of us never sleep with any of the men in our friends group.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:46 PM
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Not directly, no. You can be celibate and still be out working, going to school, going out dancing, going to movies, enjoying an after-work drink at the bar or the coffee shop, spending time with friends, going to parties et cetera. Obviously, if someone is TRYING to get laid they're going to have more luck if they are around people though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:46 PM
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The teaches of Peaches?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:43 PM
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So do women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:43 PM
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Sex isn't a need. Human connection is a need (for most but not all humans, though pretty much everyone in their formative years). That human connection can take many shapes and forms and does not have to be sexual or platonic in nature. If you mean purely physiologically, yes ejaculation and kegels are important to limit cancer and keep the pelvic wall strong but you can do that for yourself it doesn't require a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:42 PM
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Sun protection is the best makeup anyway. And I say this as someone who loves dramatic eyeliner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:40 PM
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I never knew how powerful and deceiving makeup was Anyone who has ever been to the pool or the beach with a co-ed group, has been hiking or camping with them or has slept with a woman and seen her the morning after knows what women look like without makeup and can imagine it. Those TikTok shapeshifters are at the top of the game, most women don't have that ability even if they had the desire. Just make sure to add 'makeup of any kind' to your dealbreakers in your dating app profiles if so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:39 PM
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Come join you where?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:37 PM
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Yes just like some of the best acting coaches in the world have never been in a movie, but they are sought out by Hollywood actors and serious theater types just the same because (some) of them are very good at training and guiding toward great performances.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:36 PM
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Most arts by their nature are progressive. Literature, art, theater, et cetera, do not usually thrive in conservatism due to the nature of creativity. That being said, there are plenty of shit teachers out there, you may have had one or some.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:36 PM
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Still a majority but the percentage who do not or decide not to is growing. I know quite a few couples who would love to have a child but cannot justify getting pregnant in a country where pregnant women's health and access to life-saving medical care is so bad and getting worse. Plenty of other couples want to have children but can't afford to, or can't afford for one to take the time off of work to go into labor and have the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:20 PM
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It would actually make more sense that liking somewhat overweight women is 'biology' with their argument since somewhat overweight women tend to be more fertile and able to carry a pregnancy to term than thin women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:19 PM
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Yes up to a certain point (previously in the US it was up to $75,000 now adjusted for costs increasing it's more like $150,000. After that level of yearly income the ROI for things like happiness/life-problem-solving related to income plateaus.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:16 PM
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Yep, even growing up with a lot of women in a progressive city and education system from all directions throughout my life there was a lot more pressure not to 'be bossy' or 'immasculate him' by taking the reins ever, by asking men out, by initiating things, by being assertive with them. Some of us shook that off, some of us bought into it. I learned pretty early that any strong competent man isn't intimidated by an assertive confident, take-charge woman, and many (even admitted traditionalists …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:15 PM
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OF isn't inherently immoral unless the performers aren't of age or are being coerced by another party. Additionally, only 5% of performers make enough on there to even pay their power bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:12 PM
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They dropped 70% in price in some cases since Elon bought Twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:11 PM
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Local ones even in a low cost city at an inexpensive restaurant you would still expect to pay $12+ just for an entree (not including beverages, sides, salads, dessert).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:11 PM
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No it's not. Most Americans expect coffee for a first date and that's the most popular first date in the entirety of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:10 PM
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Prices have become extreme since the pandemic. In some places doubled or tripled even for inexpensive places. But the number one date choice in the US is coffee and coffees can be as low as $2.50 at a local place (sometimes less at a retro diner) or up to $7 or $8 depending on size of the drink, location, and modifications on the drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:09 PM
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Eh there is no income threshold to dating... but both parties should agree on a place that is in their budget and both parties need to know ahead of time that they are splitting 50/50 or (more fair) each paying for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:08 PM
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Who said it was insignificant? Most countries have a beer or a coffee as the first date. If you're in the US 70% of people believe the cost should be split/each should offer to pay for themselves, and that percentage is higher if you're dating women under 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:08 PM
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The only person I feel bad for in that submarine is the 19 year old. He didn't want to go (even if it had been a certified and safe sub spending a long time in a stinky tin can with old men doesn't sound like what you're average 19 year old wants to do, especially without getting college paid for and a new camaro), but he went because his father pressured him into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:05 PM
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No it's our main sexual attraction too. That's what sexual attraction primarily consists of for most people, but it doesn't mean it's the only factor for many.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:57 PM
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I mean, nobody has to date someone who wants an annoying or constant amount of attention, but some couples like that in each other or are okay with it. They can do what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:56 PM
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If suddenly tomorrow there were no women it would be a huge loss but men would get on and probably develop artificial wombs by the time population loss was too severe to continue to perpetuate the human species, those areas (nursing, psychology) that are heavily dominated by women would still exist and more men would learn the skills needed. If all men disappeared tomorrow it would be a huge loss, but women over time would develop artificial sperm or other ways to conceive after the sperm banks …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:56 PM
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There is a higher percentage of women electricians now than likely ever, and growing. Some industries that were dominated by women are now dominated by men (coding), some industries that were dominated by men are now dominated by women (psychology). In the UK the police force is now almost 50/50 gender balance, and different industries in different cultures also have trends, though overall more industries are becoming slowly but steadily more gender-balanced. Most men and women (especially those…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:53 PM
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Yeah I've been an adult for years and prior to the pandemic I got carded going into Rated R movies alone, lmao. Currently seeing someone who also looks younger than he is though so I think we both come off as the same age but both of us years younger than we actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:45 PM
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They are but only by about 7%.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:43 PM
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Though in reality women cheat (only slightly) less than men. 80% of men never cheat and 87% of women never cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:43 PM
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Consenting adults can do what they like, however, most people only want to date and do date within four or five years of their age (and that is trending down to a smaller gap (closer to four than five now).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:39 PM
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What is this bullshit about 'working out' or 'exercising' being good for health but not actually helping weight loss. It takes both diet and exercise changes for most people to lose weight. 30 minutes a day of cardio is just for maintaining current weight (assuming you limit your calories). If you want to actually lose weight, most people have to both reduce their calories and increase the amount of time and intensity in their workouts. Also if you're not successful the first time your metabolis…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:18 PM
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Fully stocked pantry or fridge? Are we talking making it from only shelf-stable foods? Because canned bread sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:14 PM
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Or smoke or eat tuna, or bungee jump (okay the latter isn't a commonly done activity but still).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:13 PM
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Doesn't sound appropriate or relevant to everyone, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:13 PM
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Last day of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:12 PM
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Yeah, catcalls usually start (regardless of what we look like) when we're children and are generally not fun or even neutral experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:12 PM
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Who advocates for hitting on random women in the street? I haven't seen any pill do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:42 PM
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I mean in this scenario they don't have to say 'I want to fuck you and that's it'. Anyone with even a smidgen of social IQ will put it something more like "I don't want anything formal or serious but it's a good time hanging out with you/spending time with you/kissing you... how does that sound?" et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:41 PM
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This is general, obviously there are some exceptions: Testing, designing scenarios, environments, experience with an attempt to change someone's behavior or mind without talking to them openly and honestly about it. Changing your behavior or being to something that isn't genuine to you dishonest about yourself or your beliefs or life just to try to illicit a particular behavior or response from someone in a surreptitious way. For example, pretending to be really into a band she likes that you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:35 PM
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Status is subjective. Experience in what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:22 PM
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Men still have to adhere to gender roles way more often than women do nowadays. In some ways yes, I don't think 'way more' though. You have men taking over industries where women used to dominate (coding) for example... you have men who can more easily be treated decently in construction or in the office, whereas a woman usually faces much more challenges if she shifts from being an office worker to a construction worker purely based on how her gender is treated in that environment, et cetera. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:21 PM
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I'd be attracted to them as a friend, not a lover/date, what have you. That's literally (except for demisexuals who are a small percentage of society) what the distinction is between a friend and someone who is a date/boyfriend/girlfriend et cetera. Otherwise I'd be dating everyone with a cool personality who also liked me back and I would have no friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:16 PM
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I don’t advocate for women to love who they don’t want to. That's a relief. What I’m suggesting is monogamy. Monogamy exists. It's popular with many people but not with everyone. Monogamy isn't going to make particular women like particular men more. Many would rather date than (if they're not inclined to monogamy) be pressured/cajoled/forced into it. As far as I know, no sector of the Christian religion have made it okay for men to have multiple wives, There are fundamentalists groups through t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:14 PM
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How are you able to comport yourself just in society (work, school, errands?)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:02 PM
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Intentionally? I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:01 PM
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Also, rappers, athletes, and players are all commonly known to sleep around and cheat. Not really. There are a bunch of public figures who draw headlines but you'll notice even on an average NBA team most of the guys are living quiet love lives...it's not 'exciting' enough to make headlines. Same as in any industry where fame is involved. I don't have to be Amber to know this because she went on a public tirade about how she wants to date a more traditional upstanding man after her child's fathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:40 PM
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Yeah, female orgasm is not essential for reproduction, that's amazing, Dawkins took an L there. Conservative couples tend to prioritize having children more. It depends on the conservative community of course and the couple, but plenty of them discourage a woman from even learning how to orgasm, masturbate, and men are discouraged from oral or alternate forms of stimulation that are more likely to result in orgasm. 80% of women cannot come from penetration alone. Dry sex that liberal women have?…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:34 PM
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Sometimes I work, sleep, or am out living my life and spending time with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:30 PM
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Maybe you misunderstood. What I mean is if that person enjoys wearing makeup (or a flattering sundress that hugs in all the right places, whatever) regularly, if they show up suddenly looking different and adoring themselves in a way they don't like, they're being disingenuous to themselves. Someone who wears tons of makeup every day only removing it for the date would be not being 'themselves' since their true self is a person who enjoys and regularly applies makeup/wears a sundress/puts braids…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:28 PM
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In many cases, it can, and it does. We'll have to simply disagree in the 'in many cases it can, and does' statement of yours. You might just be a bit more shallow/materialistic than other people, and that's fine. You're saying me dating someone I'm not attracted to at all just to get laid or go on a date would be less shallow and less materialistic? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:23 PM
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Not sure about your 'hell of of a lot' but let's assume it's so. You can still be morally consistent (although that in and of itself isn't a virtue as you can be morally consistent about terrible things) and still not be 100% a tradwife nor 100% something else. Most couples again, are somewhere in the middle. For instance, in the US most couples even if they wanted to, one can't afford to support the other. Most households don't make enough to support a tradwife. Of the ones who do, plenty aren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:20 PM
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No the excitement I feel with someone I'm attracted to is entirely different than discomfort. The former is still a prodding, rockety ride, that stokes my already high libido and engages my mind and body. Sure it's an upheaval of sort but not an uncomfortable one. The latter is not of interest to most people. Some people of course embrace the discomfort when there is no pleasure or satisfaction or fullfillment but those are fringe people usually with emotional problems or mental vulnerabilities …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:09 PM
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It also ignores the overall demographic trajectories for all regions of Earth will eventually (as it already has for most of the world) reach below replacement level and finally collapse. Eventually all the world will be consumed by modernism if it hasn't already (at this point it's basically just sub saharan africa) It is complex I agree. There's nothing simple about it. But it's still totally doable, and always, always, always there are smarter, more beneficial, non-draconian ways to build or …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:04 PM
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What's top tier to me isn't top tier to my sister or to you. Plenty of people who had options still say no to the millionaire, I did. Money doesn't make someone a more fun date or a more interesting person, or sexier. Sure there are gold diggers, or people who want to make sure when they marry since marriage has you absorb your spouse's credit history that they're still able to buy a home and not be in debt or whatever... but again, plenty of people still have said no to a rich boring guy for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:55 PM
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Why are you using 'rappers' as though it's inherently a bad thing? As though all rappers act the same. Plenty of rappers (and people of every type of musical persuasion or any type of career) live quiet lives you know nothing about because drama makes headlines and they don't have it. Also unless you are Amber Rose pretty sure you don't know who she wants and why she dates the people she does. Thinking you know the inner lives of these couples without actually living in their walls is fan/hatewa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:50 PM
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Lol. This thing you call a "spark" is bs. You can use another term if you want. Basically what I'm talking about is the connection that sets a 'just a friend' apart from a romantic or sex interest. I used it specifically so people would understand, as it's not as verbose as a longer explanation. You can use connection, chemistry, mutual attraction, whatever, it serves the same purpose. and I stated that they can. Not always and not with everyone. For instance plenty of people myself included wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:45 PM
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I don't know of all of them but I thought they all identify as men except for Mrs Degree and maybe one other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:42 PM
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Late how?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:39 PM
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Yeah you don't have an adequate sample size. And when someone's talking about their feelings, you can't prove that they aren't feeling what they are feeling. Just as courage doesn't mean fearlessness (you can be scared and still do the thing), neither does outward behavior always appear to a casual observer always match a true sentiment in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:38 PM
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All/most of the mods here are women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:34 PM
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Probably the ones that predominantly drink tea. Or beer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:33 PM
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The guy I'm seeing now limits his caffeine intake but our first date was going to be at a tea and coffee shop and he was just going to order some of the fruit juices they have there or an herbal tea or tonic... it ended up having closed early that day (unexpectedly, the hours were the same on their phone message and website) so we went to a cocktail lounge close by. Neither of us really drink so I got cola with cherries and he got a lemonade.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:32 PM
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Nothing. They're the most popular date in the US and many other countries and the most preferred.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:31 PM
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Almond is more rounded and not dagger-sharp at the end, just tapered and smooth. Stiletto is narrow and pointy with pretty much no gentle tapering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:30 PM
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like whenever I see American/British Muslims bitching about “the west” “western degeneracy” “lack of religion” it’s like I think they sound exactly like some of the Christians here in the US, and quite a few people in this very subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:29 PM
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It depends on the community. The problem isn't Christianity, Islam, Judaism in and of themselves... the problems are extreme conservatism, fundamentalism, et cetera. For example I'm in the US, so the Muslim communities here are going to be different than what you'd find in Saudi Arabia. And in Iran which still has fucked upedness you still have more human rights protections than in Saudi Arabia by far. The problem isn't necessarily Islam itself, it's theocracy, extremism, conservatism in regards…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:28 PM
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Contrary to pill thinking most people are. Approximately 80% of men and 87% of women, and the gender gap is closing. Also less infidelity in younger generations than older generations, even when comparing the same spans of time/relationship lengths. Still, 1 out of 5 or 1 out of 6 isn't a that comfortable a prospect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:25 PM
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Probably, would you want your ducklings to be in the same nest as your assaulter (mallard duck reproduction is fucking violent).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:22 PM
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You realize there is nobody on the planet who is 100% traditional or 100% modern, right? Most couples fall somewhere in between. It's not morally inconsistent as long as you BOTH agree on the same things where values are concerned/have enough overlap. AKA maybe you both want to keep finances separate but he's better at plumbing repairs than you are. Maybe she's better at pest removal and lawn care and pays all the mortage on the home they share, but also likes to be given flowers on her birthday…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:21 PM
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Or, if you live in reality you'd realize that even someone who does it for themselves probably wants to look like themselves for the date. Not everyone wants to show up to the date not looking like themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:18 PM
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Are you just forgetting that online dating is where most relationships start one the fastest-climbing-alread-near-the-top-dating app is where only women can initate?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:16 PM
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Yep most people do (US) but also quite a few other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:15 PM
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I like when it comes to paying on the first date women will say whoever offered to go on the date is supposed to pay. This is common etiquette but in regards to dating, it's archaic. Most women under 50 won't assume that but it depends on culture and part of the country. In the US most people want to split/think the date should be split/pay your own bill. And it's an even larger majority if you're dating people in their 20s/30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:15 PM
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Tell that to all the long-covid bros out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:13 PM
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Looks smelly, is smelly. Sneering expression. Intense cultlike perky smile/eyes. Stained clothing (part of the smelly bit), I don't just mean they had a recent unlucky accident with some ketchup. Habsburg jaw. Jarhead haircut. Most severe undercuts (the ones like Hilter youth style... I disliked this even before the Nazi associations). I do like this on some women though. Tiny nose (though it depends, there are exceptions to this). Rotten/deep yellow or brown teeth. Thin lips (there are exceptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:12 PM
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My ideal date is not in a restaurant In most countries the ideal and preferred first date is for coffee (even if they are taken to go and sipped while walking or sitting in the garden/on the grass outside the shop.) Getting comfortable being around people eating is part of being human. Do you have significant sensory issues? That can make it more difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:07 PM
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I'd fuck that up so badly, compliments to the chef!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:05 PM
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I'm not sure if you'd consider me 'sexually experienced' but I have a little. I don't think there is anything inherently attractive or unattractive about inexperience. Can they learn? Can they communicate? Are they interested in sharing what they want/asking for what they want, and able to do so? Are they willing to explore? Are they willing to respect boundaries (for themselves and others). Curious and devoted in the bedroom? That's what's important to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:04 PM
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I mean some people do just get up from bed to go to the date (or only shower once that week right before the date thinking it will disrupt the biome of filth and odor they've grown)... you can tell when someone washes regularly versus only occasionally by smell alone. But you're right, that's a shit argument about the 'time to get ready', I'm glad this is the first I'm seeing it. At any rate a vast majority of people in the US (especially if you're dating under 40) prefer to split the bill/each …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:01 PM
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Well how tall is Ben? Aren't they twinsies?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:52 PM
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Yep and Jack Black had an active love life well before he was rich, famous, or even getting regular work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:50 PM
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Nah I need to want someone physically and personality-wise to move forward/agree to a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:49 PM
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Or just some people are attracted to a variety of shapes, sizes, colors, types. If I date a guy who is not 'magazine/conventionally handsome' it's not because his great personality 'makes up for it', it's because I physically find desireable and hot features that the magazine doesn't. It's involuntary what physically turns me on. It often doesn't match up with magazines, movies, television, or 'rating scales'. And that's true for many people. Even here, devoted pill types with a similar mentalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:48 PM
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Yeah extroversion isn't necessarily better... it's just often painted that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:43 PM
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It depends on the person. For me I need to be hot for you physically and determine that very quickly. For others, I enjoy the quote "It wasn't just his body...it was the way he animated it". For still others (demisexuals) they don't know if they're attracted to someone/desire them until they get to know them better... everyone is just a question mark until a connection develops. It takes all kinds. On average most people know if they physically desire someone within moments of seeing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:40 PM
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Yep. 40% of relationships start with online dating, it's the number one source for relationships (next closest being professiona/academic social circles and after that next closest being family/friend social connections/introductions). Most of that online dating is apps. Most people (US data) end up in relationships who want them (eventually). So yeah a good chunk confirms that there is a lot of variety in what men and women want and that it works out for a good chunk of the population. Also onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:37 PM
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Plenty of women readily admit we aren't interested in someone who doesn't turn us on physically. I think the contention comes in when random people try to tell us what DOES turn us on physically and don't believe us when we explain that yes, some of us like big guys with a gut and some of us like short dudes, not "in spite" of their gut, not "in spite" of their height... for these qualities and so many others they possess. What I find handsome you might not. What I find handsome my sisters do no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:34 PM
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Yeah sure, it's hard for (most not all) people to lose weight. And 90% fail. It's much easier to quit smoking than to lose weight and keep it off for most people... and smoking is one of the most addictive habits out there. One of the main differences is you can go cold turkey (pun intended) off cigs, alcohol (well after weaning), gambling, et cetera. You can't go cold turkey off food. Eventually... you gotta eat. Imagine telling an alcoholic they have to limit themselves to three thimblefuls of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:28 PM
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Plenty of articles from therapists self reporting that their offices are filled with single childless middle-aged women going through a midlife crisis Sure there are... but the reasons aren't dating life. Do you know the stresses caused by having children, by living (as in most countries) where most people are separated from their work and live in an atomized society? Where artists can't pursue their passion and scientists don't have time to continue innovating in the lab because they have mouth…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:26 PM
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How incels act today is not necessarily representative of how they would act if they had high numbers. Right but the solution would not be to coax, cajole, propagandize to, coerce women to appease their terrorism by fucking them or dating them or marrying them or carrying their child. Someone becomes a violent terrorist they need to be removed from society (prison et cetera). I have also said that the first things to be tried would be to find ways to increase heterosexual pairing rates voluntari…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:23 PM
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while getting all of the benefits of hard work. Benefits of hard work? The hardest workers in the US get the lowest pay, and most workers get shit benefits. The US is behind a majority of countries in things like parental leave and vacation/sick pay which are considered bare bones basics in even less developed countries. Regardless of who among those 90% were hardworking and their goal and who were not, the fact of the matter is, almost everyone who attempts will fail. That doesn't mean you shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:19 PM
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Apparently you're unaware of frat parties an engineering and arts schools....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:17 PM
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Also the guy at the corporate convention, with a lanyard. But we don't extrapolate these to 'all men' or 'all musicians' or 'all frat guys'. Most men aren't rapists... the ones who are are almost always reoffenders with mutliple victims. Same with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:17 PM
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The guy that brings his acoustic guitar to the party, and croons melodic pop songs. Will also put something in your drink. Just casually stating musicians are likely to be date rapists, that's a wild take. Additionally, I personally would not be attracted to anyone who takes out their guitar at a party in most cases, certainly not if they were just playing pop songs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:16 PM
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Kinda of like how Amber Rose is stuck forever dating rappers that will cheat on her. No plenty of people with many sex partners in a lifetime never cheat. I'm not aware of your example's love life or whatever but it doesn't extrapolate to a trend defining all or most women (most women have multiple sex partners in a lifetime, though only about half as many as the average man).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:14 PM
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People with loved ones don't end up I nursing homes. Yes they do in the US, most children even if they WANT to keep their parents at home can't afford to watch over them/provide medical monitoring because of needing to work outside the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:12 PM
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True, less than 5% of OF performers even make enough to pay their monthly power bill, but there are other perks like performing in the comfort and (relative) safety of your own home without necessarily even including another person much less a strange man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:09 PM
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I mean I won't date someone who is a bad person or a bad partner, but some of that is relative, yeah? Part of what makes a good partner is compatible values. For you, you wouldn't be compatible with someone who does OF maybe, for me I absolutely would.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:07 PM
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Most men average 7 sexual partners and 1 to 2 marriages (US) in a lifetime. Most women average 4 sexual partners. First sexual partner for men and women is most commonly before age 18, but over 90% (with very close gender parity) by age 25. I'd have to check but a majority of men whoever want to/plan to get married in lifetime do it by early 30s. Now granted in some cases there are things like divorce before 33, et cetera so there are still single guys who are (or were until the divorce at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:06 PM
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Well you've convinced me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:58 PM
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I mean I care that I have enough to take care of myself. I could not give a shit what a person I date makes as long as they are not neglecting pets or expecting me to support them/pay their bills. Consider that almost everyone (US) gets laid, has relationships, and either gets married or moves in with a love interest ultimately (mostly before their 40s). Most people in the US are poor or on a knife's edge of separation from it. People are dating broke dudes, unemployed dudes, dudes in debt. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:58 PM
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It's not what I personally think is healthy. It's what actual health experts and researchers have proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:57 PM
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Just because you can find unhealthy thin people doesn't suddenly make being fat healthy The reverse is true as well. I for example at a size medium in junior's still even well after being in the junior's age range am not as healthy as my obese friend whose levels are great, can do things in yoga I would never hope to do, eats a lot more healthy, varied, home-cooked meals et cetera. If you looked at us someone like you would assume I'm healthier. You just can't know. Someone who is a chainsmoker …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:56 PM
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Those people made poor choices and they have bad discipline/decision making/no guidance. What people? Making what bad decisions? Sorry but a lot of women are depressed bc they’re trying to Buck the system, be corporate juggernauts, I'd agree that the work culture (particular in the US) is shit, but not a gendered thing or because women want to be 'corporate juggernauts', plenty of us are trying to get well out of the corporate world. Promiscuity is relative... consensual sex with willing adults …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:54 PM
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I'm saying that based on the data all those men have had those experiences and are in those relationships... with women. You denying it would be an argument that they were actually mostly with men. It's not bad faith, it's making a point that the only way your argument would be supported by the numbers and percentages of men having relationships, sex, et cetera is if they weren't having them with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:49 PM
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It is obvious that most people outside arranged marriages and sugar relationships or relationships of convenience (which exist but are a minority, particularly in the US) are genuinely attracted to each other at the start of the relationship, yes. Infidelity is much less common in millennials and younger generations than in people who are currently over 45. Fewer people marry but when they do they are half as likely to divorce as older generations, and report higher levels of happiness (in regar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:25 PM
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No, not really. At least there haven't been any effective ways presented yet. Yes really. The world is overpopulated and enough babies overall are being born, just certain parts of the world are not. The work that needs doing can pay better, offer better staffing, a work-life balance, et cetera to entice enough people to enter certain fields. Technology can supplement but we need to take care of the people as more things become automated et cetera. it's telling that criticism of the market is al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:17 PM
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Well I didn't suggest 'neo liberal' I just said 'immigration'. And that's just one of a million things, as noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:14 PM
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Women usually don't enjoy sharing things with short, unemployed guys like me. Some definitely do. I have greatly enjoyed dating short unemployed guys. Everyone enjoys people they find hot. Everyone enjoys a nice lifestyle. Most people are poor and ordinary and yet most people still find lust and love (about 98% in the US by a decade before retirement age), likely higher after.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:55 AM
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Most women who marry marry by their late 20s, at least in the US. And most people who marry actually do like each other and find each other attractive, they aren't just 'settling'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:39 AM
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The society people claim to want to protect gets worse when there aren't social safety nets for its people and its children. But regardless, there are plenty of things I don't want my taxes to pay for. Like new camaros for soldiers just going over to protect opium and oil fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:37 AM
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Men have every right to reject a woman they don't want. But if you think quite a few older women aren't dating and marring and having sex with people they like and who like them you'd be wrong. It's why retirement homes have STI problems. Old people do be fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:35 AM
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Programming, Wi-Fi, GPS, Bluetooth, modern security systems for the home, Kevlar, fire escapes, life rafts, circular saws, medical syringes, electric hot water heaters, solar heaters, feeding tubes, signal flares, coffee filters, several varieties of rocket fuel, chemotherapy treatments, underwater telescopes....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:31 AM
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Antidepressants are given for depression... not for dating problems; it's pretty irrelevant to bring them up. In fact, the only recognized 'relationship'-related cause of depression is grieving a deceased spouse or long-term partner. Women are more likely than men to seek out help, get a diagnosis, and continue an advised prescription, particularly regarding mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:20 AM
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Yes anyone's freedom to say no to romantic advances/sexual advances trump anyone's else's right to be sheltered from the possibility of rejection from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:19 AM
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Right if someone politely asks you out, you politely reject them. The only time you might have to change that for safety and sanity is if they won't take no for an answer, or if their response to your rejection is verbal threats, violence, screaming et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:11 AM
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You don't have to light yourself on fire to keep others warm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:09 AM
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It's absolutely natural to have hurt feelings when you're rejected. And to take care of yourself after as you process it should it affect you deeply.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:08 AM
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Still, you are basically saying that you would rather your society be destroyed, or people enslaved, than say go back to 1950s gender roles. An individual women or several of them, not dating someone they don't want doesn't 'destroy society'... if it did the solution would not be forcing them, pressuring them, or manipulating them into dating someone they don't want or legalizing marital rape and things of that nature from the 1950s. Your premise is ridiculous. First you're implying that a signi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:56 AM
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According to my therapist, both were directly linked to my lack of romantic life and by the amount and ways of rejection. Then either your therapist is a quack or the 'linked to' isn't 'caused by'. No legitimate mental health professional or institution would support them in saying that the 'cure' to your depression is 'girlfriend'. Humans do need human touch. It doesn't have to be romantic though to provide that health to their life. It can be family, friends, mentors, hugs, contact sports et c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:49 AM
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Yeah and look again, at the percentage of men who WANT to be single in their 20s. The average age of first marriage for men is in their 30s. Also look at the data, what's the percentage of those singles who are single by choice and not looking to date right now. Look at men who are sexually active (and as in recently, not just lost their virginity ten years ago).More than 70% on the COVID GSS data and more than 80% on the more recent data). Also keep in mind, women in their late twenties still u…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:46 AM
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What is a 'mixed wedding'?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:42 AM
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yet a tiny virus named Covid-19 ended up taking the whole world hostage for at least two full years. And fortunately a vaccine was developed (and in record time). Still, it was never my intention to pressure people into anything. I don't think people care what I have to say that much. Oh good, I'm glad you're not one of those who think women need to date men they don't want or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:42 AM
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Most 'hoes' aren't dating partners who would be humiliated by them. They are dating guys who don't 'scare the hoes' and aren't 'scared by the hoes'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:39 AM
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I mean your plan worked for you. Most people who marry in their early twenties divorce. I don't think any path is a one-size-fits-all. I would be miserable married or not having my career (or one that is similarly satisfying) but I also have friends whose path doesn't look like mine and it was right for them. Depression and SSRI prescriptions aren't giving because of women's dating lives, lmao. In fact the only main cause of depression that is relationship related is grieving a spouse or partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:38 AM
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Most people outside of arranged marriages and sugar relationships are attracted to each other (at least at the start) and usually when they first get married too if they go that route.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:22 AM
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Not to mention it was an OK Cupid blog, not data... and the OK Cupid blog showed that women reached out to and messaged a broader and more diverse variety of men with a variety of appearances compared to the men reaching out to a variety of women by significant margins....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:21 AM
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It's unscientific noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:19 AM
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Not to mention most people don't know your bank account, your dick size, or even what your abs look like/feel like before they decide to get intimate with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:19 AM
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Well according to your philosophy they'll land guys anyway who are sweet and thoughtful Betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:18 AM
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On OKCupid women still reached out to a broader variety and diversity of men and messaged them compared to men messaging women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:17 AM
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Probably lasts longer than the person who forces themselves to date someone they don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:12 AM
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I was there before dating apps and women were picky back then as well. Not as picky as they are now but still delusional. Desire isn't delusional. Everyone has a right to say no. Everyone wants who they want. Doesn't mean they will get to be with that person. Understand that there is little that women can offer an independent man. Sex - you can rent better. Food - get real they can't and won't cook. Company - I have an Xbox. They have nothing to bargain with. We know this but they don't. Most wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:11 AM
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The amount of straight women (and a few of them with LGBTQ language in their social media profiles even though they are straight) Pretty sure they know who they are attracted to or if they are queer more than you do. " are you gaaayy or something??" Internalized homophobia is a thing. Not only do these women have inflated standards, It's just consent. That's literally it. Whether or not you think she's being reasonable or I think she's being petty is irrelevant. Romantic and sexual relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:03 AM
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Monogamy doesn't create attraction... the attraction has to come first. And monogamy still is plenty popular, most people still get married, and among younger generations (US) are half as likely to divorce as older generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:49 AM
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Immigration would help Japan. There are a million things that would help Japan that don't involve pressuring women there to just put out and shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:47 AM
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If society goes from having healthy family formation, stable fertility rates, good mental health indicators, robust social networks and then all these indicators fall off a cliff there is definitely something very fucked up with society. If there is some huge societal collapse there are a million ethical ways to help it. The solution to 'unhealthy family formation' is not 'unhealthy coercion, pressure, or manipulation of people to date people they don't want'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:47 AM
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I'd say the person who is trying to convince others to date them even if they don't want to is the one getting in the way of two consenting adults, the two who actually DO both find each other appealing. Why would I drop the guy I'm dating and choose a stranger I find unappealing over him?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:46 AM
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Yeah some people's attraction grows broader and some people's attraction narrows. I've been an adult for more than a few years and yet physically my 'types' haven't changed. Overall the personality I find attractive hasn't changed. The only change I made was to be more careful and making sure I was denying people who don't believe in preventative medicine or are even mildly wishy-washy about bodily autonomy rights. And that didn't narrow by much my values were already pretty set there. Most of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:44 AM
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And what happens when a vast majority of women only like a small minority of men? How do you think that could turn out for society. The appropriate response would not be to force, pressure, manipulate, or propagandize women into dating those other men. It would have nothing to do with influencing dating decisions at all. Do we go back to Islam. I'm in the US so here you'd be talking about Christian fundamentalism, people trying to convert someone to Islam is pretty rare here, meanwhile you can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:41 AM
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Yeah most couples are straight and 98% of people pair up in some way (marriage, dating, living together) before retirement age in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:34 AM
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I was also reading that shaving was promoted during WW2 because of nylon shortages so instead of wearing panty hose some women started going bare-legged and a smoother appearance would sometimes mimic the sheen of the hose.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:34 AM
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They still don't. You have men in this very subreddit occasionally railing that they want women to be pressured to shave again and not have hair in their pits or have dyed hair in their pits. It's not even a 'what they are attracted to' thing because they wouldn't date those women anyway for entirely unrelated reasons...and yet they still want them to change.' Hairlessness was popular in various cultures over the millennia, but in the US trimmed and groomed but not bare is the most popular accor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:32 AM
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When women say “sorry I can’t help who I’m attracted to” they are not being entirely honest with themselves or us. It's literally a physical involuntary reaction. People ask themselves internally "Can I picture myself kissing this person's mouth" and so on and so forth. Not necessarily in words/internal monologue, but as a sort of 'ping' in the mind. If they acknowledged that the abundance of advances they received, Plenty of women don't receive an "abundance" of advances, and some arrive when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:29 AM
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The brain runs on carbs. Also people who do low-carb diets (the really low carb ones) are grumpy and reek to high heaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:09 AM
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To be honest watching fat people eat makes me wanna vomit Sounds like you might need to work on that. Do you never leave your home?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:08 AM
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Not at all. Several big girls on my water polo team had visible abs. Just huge thighs (muscular but also fatty) and big butts. Massive calves with some muscle, sure, but also plump.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:05 AM
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You have never seen the self-assurance in the sex appeal of a big-bellied man in NYC in a tank top. In all seriousness, plenty of us love fat men. Most men in the US are fat yet almost all get laid by 17 or 25, and most marry. And most are attracted to and found attractive by that person at least at the beginning of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:03 AM
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So all the fat men who are laid by on average age 17 and who are mostly in relationships by their 20s or 30s are really gay bears? Who are all the straight women dating since most men (US) are fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:01 AM
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Obesity is correlated with a laundry list of negative health outcomes and diseases. It is also very representative of the kind of lifestyle a person leads. True but when you look at someone you don't know that their cholesterol, weight, and blood pressure improved significantly over the last 4 months, you only see what they look like. Meanwhile, plenty of thin people are more unhealthy with more unhealthy lifestyles (cigarettes, coke, opiates, alcohol, amphetamines, yo-yo-dieting, et cetera) but…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:58 AM
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To put it in perspective, in the US 90% of people who attempt to lose weight will never succeed. Only 2% of people won't have have dates, sex, relationships (and often marriage) before retirement age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:54 AM
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90% of people who attempt to lose weight fail, either in the initial effort(s) or they gain it back in a year or two. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try if you and your doctor have some good ideas though. That being said, you don't lose weight so some jerk on a subreddit will stop calling you a 'worthless landwhale' you do it to get the health YOU want and/or the body YOU want. At the end you might still not get dates regardless of gender, might as well work on the goals you (and your doctor) s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:53 AM
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Yeah people don't seem to realize that some of us are physically attracted to more than half the men we see on a dating app but then we go to their profile and they have a dealbreaker. I had to ultimately swipe left on a ton of people I found hot as hell because they wanted a) children and/or b) a serious/formal relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:48 AM
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Do you guys take into consideration what people going to think about your partner before getting into relationship ? Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:42 AM
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Is this Andrew Tate?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:40 AM
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That's a terribly low wage, not competitive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:39 AM
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Eh some lawyers (not including you purple possum) sell their souls. Selling videos of your body in comparison is of much better character. And there are other jobs where people sell their bodies (military) just for things like oil and drone bombing hospitals. There's nothing inherently wrong about consenting adults making explicit art or lewd footage for a living.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:38 AM
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Plenty of decent men marry sex workers. And sometimes pieces of shit with dogshit opinions marry non-sex workers. There are all kinds in this world. Most porn stars get married (often to other people in the industry but not always).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:35 AM
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I won't marry anyone. But I'd date someone who used to have an OF.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:34 AM
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Nobody's 'programmed' to do all the same of anything. Living single forever and having many sexual partners is an environment some women thrive in and some women don't. Same as men. Some of us never want commitment from men, make our own security, never desire protection from men or received it in tangible actual relevant ways. Family it's true if you mean biological kids, women will need to at least visit a sperm bank and men will need a surrogate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:33 AM
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Yeah not everyone is photogenic or has the ability to look comfortable or genuinely happy on camera even if they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:29 AM
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That's why I get it with ice instead of tapioca.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:29 AM
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Even if you eschew free will you can't get everyone to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:29 AM
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You are attractive to someone, likely thousands or hundreds of thousands, you just don't know or not because there is a lot of variation in what people like. For example, I'm not my own type so it's hard for me to rate myself even using something more realistic and not an asinine 1-10 rating scale. But I am other people's types. Some of the features I have that drive some people wild send other people running. It's all relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:28 AM
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Are we including the narrow definition of sex some people in this subreddit have or any kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:25 AM
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Or if that non-dead bedroom is actually a happy one or if she's just 'submitting to her husband' or if he's just 'doing his marital duty' and neither of them are sexually compatible but didn't find that out until the wedding night. I'm not saying some couples who are each others' first and then marry aren't happy and healthy, some very much are. But it depends on the individual. Someone like me would be no good in a marriage but I thrive in alternative types of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:20 AM
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Most men (and women) don't wait past 17 for sex. And yes marrying young (under 25) is the #1 indicator for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:18 AM
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Not really, traditional religions sometimes compel a woman to 'submit to her husband'. Technically not a dead bedroom but still a miserable one if she or her husband are having sex out of religious pressure instead of mutual consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:17 AM
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Nah. Those are all played out. It's moon dresses now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:13 AM
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So what should be said if the conversation is about what she did last night or what her plans are today. I'm going to the movies with some unspecified person? Last night I hung out with someone who will remain unnamed?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:10 AM
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By the time that happened worldwide we would have developed artificial wombs. Population crises can be solved in many ways that have nothing to do with pressuring people to be in relationships who don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:48 AM
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First we have to consider that some people (like me) generally don't want a relationship. I prefer to date casually/stay single. I do occasionally make exceptions. We also need to look at the demographic. People in their early twenties for example might not want to be in a relationship while they are cramming for finals or writing their thesis or perfecting a trade or what have you. They might also not be looking for something serious as they are just beginning to regularly dip their toes in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:47 AM
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Everyone's different. For me I care about their past but only how they treated people and how they were treated. Not how many people they've been with sexually or how much they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:44 AM
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Only if you wouldn't help a dude who similarly was in need of that assistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:43 AM
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Correlation is not causation and a Reddit post is not indicative of a broader social presumption. Don't you think the reason someone who outearns their spouse can leave more easily is because they can afford to move out? Or afford to have him move out?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:43 AM
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I mean some of his kids are too young to hate him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:41 AM
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Why would you have to look at the floor? Just learn to be normal. Practice at home or at improv classes on how to make eye contact or keep your head level. If you can't handle this you're never going to be able to handle a destination beach wedding, a backyard bbq pool party, or a night at a party celebrating your achievements or one of your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:39 AM
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I'm not Christian but that guy had his moments. Critical of the rich and benevolent to the poor. Kept the wine flowing at the party and make sure nobody went hungry. Pro free universal healthcare. Told slut-shamers to shut the hell up and go work on themselves. Flipped tables on the capitalists at the temples. Forgiving. Gentle, humble. That being said, you probably are already wary of this but never give your money to a church nor your decision making to an authority in that church.. .and if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:38 AM
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Not sure what you're asking but if you had a post removed/prevented you can send a polite mod mail if you didn't get an explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:33 AM
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Eh plenty of Karen footage out there where the Karen is young, fit and conventionally attractive but just an awful person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:32 AM
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The 60 was just an example for percentages. Obviously you can still do it in actuality but not in a row at one venue for a couple of hours. You ask out a couple of different school mates every day. You ask out three women at the bar a few nights a week. A few women at the club on weekends. The person who danced with you at the festival. And a few dozen you send 'swipe rights' and messages to online, et cetera. And when you add to that meet up and activities with a no flirt/only friendship policy…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:29 AM
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Most relationships (US) begin online....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:26 AM
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Well those "statistical anomalies" will be pretty damaged and it isn't sure they will be in a relationship in the future or have a family if they wanted one No they aren't intrinsically damaged by no sex and no romance. There are millions of ways you can make sure you are healthy and happy that have nothing to do with those. He has never been rejected, he wait that women come to him and he still can have 4 new partners a week if he wants to (thanks dating apps) Yes and I have a coworker with alm…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:25 AM
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Too based. Give me a sensitive musician or music aficionado any day of the week. I'm seeing the latter right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:20 AM
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A pussy is someone afraid to dress how they want because they think some random CoD player will call them girly. A pussy is someone who doesn't speak out or offer support when they see a child being hurt. A pussy is someone who tries to commit harm against someone anonymously on the internet. A pussy isn't someone who is merely a sensitive soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:20 AM
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Without the shadow of a doubt almost all men of all the world are putting "high effort" into dating or obtaining sex. Lmao no. Even men regularly in this subreddit admit they haven't even gone to meet someone or asked someone out in years (or in some cases or ever) which is bare minimum effort for anyone looking to date who hasn't had any recent advances. If they do have apps they admit they only use one or two at a time and only have one photo which they don't update. It literally takes sometim…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:18 AM
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Again, you don't need vacation to move abroad. Moving costs money and you need a to afford it. The visa process is not affordable nor accessible to most Americans. Many cannot become fluent enough in the language to get good work and can only work at low paying tourist attractions that cater to English-speaking parties. Most Americans don't have $1,000 in the bank, much less the ability to break a lease. Yes there are some who can... most of those who can afford to... don't necessarily want to. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:57 AM
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Have you ever been rejected? Yes. Most women who date have been rejected. Most experienced it for the first time in middle school when asking guys to a dance. Yes even the popular girls were occasionally rejected. It continues to be experienced by almost everyone who regularly tries to date. Once or twice would be a pretty uncommon rejection rate, particularly if someone has dated for a few years and not been in long-term relationships during that time. It's true that men do more of the asking (…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:54 AM
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Yes, and they don't save any of the money. Most have cars and most don't rent rooms Most aren't able to save. They save up $800 and need to use it for a minor medical procedure. They save up $10,000 and need to use it to pay the plumber. What have you. Most cities in the US are spread out, not walkable, and with little or no reliable transportation. Cars unfortunately are quite necessary for some or it would take two days to walk to get groceries and they wouldn't be able to sleep if they wanted…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:51 AM
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Insisting isn't bad, it's quite common (especially in younger generations, you might find it's less common in people 45 and older). I insist on paying half regardless of what my date's potential intentions or expectations are. I don't believe in starting a dating connection (regardless of how long or how casual or how formal or how short-lived) in imbalance, regardless. And this is pretty common. Again, the insisting on splitting the bill is more common in younger generations. You can make whate…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:47 AM
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So no evidence. I understand that you are frustrated but frustrations are not evidence. Of if you're saying it's just a theory I also have a theory then. I have a theory that 'free sexual marketplaces' I hesitate to even use the phrase as it's more of a gimmick/PUA/pill term than a universally accepted thing produce results that create no serious problems that aren't solved by addressing the person, not the random woman in their vicinity who they have designs on. You are taking your own personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:45 AM
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I speak of plenty of rejection over years without a single acceptance or a compliment. True if someone is asking ten people out for years politely and in the right contexts and rejected every time, makes friends with people and never meets potential dates who accept them that way et cetera, they are still experiencing that they are just a statistical anomaly. It's almost guaranteed they will still be in a relationship by retirement age if they keep asking. "you look good/cute/hot but I already h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:41 AM
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"fascist wokes" lmao. I can't entertain this any longer as an even marginally serious argument. Your "matching" of Becky is not your call to make. Becky gets to decide for herself. So does Joe. And both have to agree to move forward without 'designs' to coax them to be with someone one or both of them don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:34 AM
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There is no need to 'cull' men just because a small percentage aren't getting their dicks wet, lmao. Incel isn't a protected class nor should it be. Nobody owes anybody a fuck, or a kiss, or a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:32 AM
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Dating in your early twenties is fine... getting married in your early twenties is the indicator of divorce, not dating or even having a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:30 AM
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Well doubt is just a feeling. Here are just a few articles. https://fortune.com/2022/08/17/long-covid-erectile-dysfunction-link-pandemic-health-carolyn-barber/ https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0276429 https://www.webmd.com/covid/covid-erectile-dysfunction "A wide array of symptoms and side effects have been associated with COVID-19. One that’s currently being studied? Erectile dysfunction, or ED. Preliminary studies show about a 20% increase in the incidence of e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:28 AM
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Nowadays, asking out the 60 people of the club is the best way to get kicked out. Well yeah, doing that shows no social IQ not to mention makes everyone feel like you aren't actually interested in the person just in any person. Asking out people you like doesn't mean asking out dozens of people in an hour like they're a production line instead of people. A guy of the climbing hall got a warning for having asked out one woman. So he got a warning informing him that hitting on people is frowned up…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:22 AM
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An estimated 60 percent of nursing home residents never have visitors. National Center for Health Statistics. Again, a majority do not get visitors. If I find the study on phone calls I'll post it here too (it also included things like Facetime).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:18 AM
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That's just consent. You want what you want. Going after someone you don't want just to get your rocks off would be incredibly deceptive and highly unethical. Some women and women men have a lot of dealbreakers it's true, it's not a gendered thing. Being 'picky' is just not going with someone you're not into. What I think is picky you might think is reasonable. Some might even think you need to tighten your threshold for if you'll consider someone for a date. For example, some people think I'm t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:15 AM
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My principal point is that BECAUSE everyone makes romantic relationships the cornerstone of fulfilling their intimacy needs No not everyone. It's common yes, but not healthy and definitely not everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:11 AM
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It isn't unhealthy at all to make it your "primary" interest. It is very normal. Normal/common doesn't mean healthy. It's not considered healthy from a mental health, emotional health or physical health standpoint to make this your only or primary interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:46 AM
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Yes. Still more men approach but there is a higher number and percentage of women approaching than ever in human history. One of the top popular dating apps right now lets only women make the initial approach. Even in middle school plenty of guys and girls were rejected when asking people to dances. It's a normal part of dating and just life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:45 AM
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I don't think you realize that the expense and challenge of moving (especially for families, particular if both parents work and would have to arrange new jobs in a new city) is insurmountable for many. Not to mention credit checks, security deposit, application fees, pet deposits, moving trucks/services, et cetera. Most people in the US for example don't have savings and by the time they saved enough to cover last month's rent at the old place, first month's rent at the new place, security depo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:44 AM
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None in good standing would suggest this as a 'cure for these things'. They might advise therapeutic touch which is done or sex therapy/surrogates but for sexual issues, not for extreme loneliness or depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:40 AM
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The point is that all evidence and common sense suggests that if too many men are not sufficiently involved in mating and intimate relationships with women, then problems arise. Pray point me to this evidence. Most men are getting laid. Most are marrying or getting into long-term relationships. Most have multiple partners in a lifetime. Younger generations get married later in life (by just on average a couple of years) and have lower rates and percentages of divorce compared to older generation…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:21 AM
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It is nore a question of will than means. Once you live there, you will try to find a partner, not before or on holidays. Again most people in the US don't get much paid vacation if at all (certainly not enough to meet and court a spouse). Most don't have the flexibility at work to take off for more than a couple of days even if they do have paid vacation. Also they have children to tend to, ailing parents (especially after COVID), businesses to look after where the work or even management of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:18 AM
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I speak from experience. I'm literally practicing what I preach in a poorer country. Yes and you are very lucky that even in your poorer country you are able to do so. Most aren't able to. If hard work resulted for most people in enough wealth and job flexibility in the US to travel to another country for long enough to meet a life partner then day laborers, produce pickers, nurses, teachers, and machinists would all be millionaires with four months paid vacation every year. Where is your experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:15 AM
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It's just funny because you're talking about medical conditions and a global pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:12 AM
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It's not exclusionary to simply not want someone. It's not exclusionary to simply not force yourself to fuck someone you're not interested in. Being inclusive to someone doesn't mean dating them, fucking them, marrying them, et cetera. As I said, I have no certainty that left to its own devices the sexual market place will not reach a tolerable equilibrium in terms of levels of male sexual exclusion. There are plenty of solutions to building/continuing a healthy society that don't involve any pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:11 AM
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No some of the data is brand new. GSS data and census figures are fairly recent. Imo it means assisted, voluntary passage to the afterlife Assisted suicide has nothing to do with dating. This is a bizarre and illogical take.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:05 AM
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The issue is the very high amount of rejection and the low amount of positive feedbacks that some people receive. It's normal and healthy to experience rejection and learn how to deal with it. Most people aren't compatible. It often takes dates with a variety of people before someone enters into something like marriage with one of them. Thinking dating isn't going to be more rejection than acceptance seems unrealistic. Your friends are outliers. Most people who actually ask people out regularly …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:03 AM
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Porn addiction isn't considered an actual diagnosis by any mental or physical health professional. More than 90% of men in the US watch porn and more than 70% of women (higher in Utah which is number one in the union). do not think it is proven that women are biologically hardwired to not want to be with a very high percentage of men once women have truly free choice. The entire history of humanity is living beyond base biology. Buildings, organizations, shoes, contacts, health supplements, prot…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:01 AM
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I mean I've learned another language (and working on my third and fourth) but in my country (US) most people never learn a second language. They may take classes in school for a few years but promptly forget it. Most people (again in my country, US) cannot afford to travel to another nation. It's particularly harder for younger generations who have higher housing costs and more stagnated wages than most older generations. Americans are mostly living paycheck to paycheck, in jobs that don't have …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:57 AM
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The answer for stopping brownshirts has nothing to do with dating, pressuring, coercing, or manipulating people into being with someone they don't want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:55 AM
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Also that men for the most part only are able to obtain partners at great effort. This simply isn't true. You think 98% of people in the US are 'high effort' when it comes to dating? As long as you actually seek out someone statistically you'll be laid by 17 or 25 except for extreme outliers, you'll be married or in a long-term relationship by late twenties/early thirties. And the exceptions go down to 2% when it comes to retirement age.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:54 AM
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What do you mean 'we can make something else from her'? Lmao. the objective is to making them flock to men "Making" someone do that is the Nazi shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:53 AM
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My response is very logical as I can clearly combine multiple points and experiences and curate them into an observation. Your personal experiences do not extrapolate to a general entity of 'women'. That's not logical at all. Another example would be women never knowing where or what to eat. I feel like your experience of women is mostly from archaic sitcoms and not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:52 AM
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Most in USA have the ability to when young. No, they don't. Most people in the US cannot afford the visa, passport, and travel/accommodation costs to go overseas for long enough to find a partner (not to mention getting enough time off work to do so). And maybe by 50 they will have like 300k saved up and can retire early overseas. Not in the US. Most people live paycheck to paycheck (even if they do eat rice and beans) and don't have savings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:50 AM
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Yeah I have free 5G now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:48 AM
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All the people I know That sure sounds like science to me, gosh!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:47 AM
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It's literally the most reviewed and monitored vaccine in human history. I'll look at the data actual immunologist and virologists show me thanks as well as the history of pandemics and the advice of accredited doctors in good standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:46 AM
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Is this a roundabout flowery poetry way of reminding people that COVID and Long Covid have caused a great deal of permanent erectile dysfunction that is not responsive to things like Viagra?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:45 AM
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I think I'm due for a booster soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:43 AM
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So an overwhelming majority of the planet. By the by, Covid remained the #1 cause of death for cops in the US, pretty much exclusively those who weren't vaccinated. Still less dangerous than being a landscaper or a pizza delivery guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:43 AM
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They extended the investigation a few times and his prison time and house arrest. But an additional victim (and additional evidence for other crimes) was discovered. Formal indictment came down. It also appears he is not the billionaire and trillionaire he claimed at various times. He's not even a hundred aire. Pretended he had a great hairline (his vanity is why I mention it, I like baldies personally), proven false. Pretended his house was a several million dollar mansion, it was about $600,00…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:37 AM
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I'm kind of bummed I missed purge week. Sounds like it caused a lot of excitement around these parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:32 AM
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It isn't. Additionally, even if you use the incorrect translation, it would still not be worse than being inhospitable to strangers or wearing gym clothes/any clothes made with mixed fabrics. Or shaving a beard. Or eating lobster.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:28 AM
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It denounces being inhospitable to strangers more. Also, if you go to the original language it can be translated as same-sex pairings are not okay in a hetero couple's marital bed, not that it's bad in and of itself. Basically, if you're cheating on your hetero spouse keep it out of the house, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:27 AM
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There are people in this subreddit who don't think a woman being with a woman or a man being with a man counts toward their n-count. And some who don't count sex with a disabled person. Some don't count hand jobs. So strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:26 AM
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In a row?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:24 AM
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And at BYU they had an outbreak of armpit crabs because of another perceived "loophole", lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:24 AM
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Some people here don't count oral. Some don't count anal. Some don't count hand jobs. Some don't count same-sex sexual encounters. Some don't count the disabled. It's wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:23 AM
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Sure they do. Minimalism is all the rage, for some it's not just a trend but lifelong. That being said, $40,000 in a lot of places in the US isn't even enough for food, housing, soap, and health insurance for two, even if nobody has a single prescription or health problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:57 AM
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Depends on where you live and if your job/parental care/sibling care/obligations allow you to move. $100K can get dicey if you have a kid or two in the Bay Area or in NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:55 AM
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No oral and 8/10 sex. I'd want more than 2 to 3 times a week though. Regardless of orgasm I'm not into receiving oral most of the time. Love to deliver for them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:52 AM
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Have fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:51 AM
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Keep in mind, free/low cost healthcare in the UK. So that's anywhere from a few hundred to a few thousand more each month in the bank that you're not spending on premiums, co pays, treatments, medication in nearly that high amount et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:51 AM
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It happens, I'm not sure how common it is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:49 AM
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I'm always on time. Generally I'll arrive fifteen or so minutes early and then show up inside the venue about 10 minutes early.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:48 AM
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Yep. There are shitty pretty men and shitty ugly men. There are also incredible men with gorgeous eyes (and everything else) and incredible men who do not meet any metric of conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:45 AM
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I can't speak for them but I would not date someone who was not okay with me traveling alone sometimes. However, often I invite someone I'm dating with me (but not every time). Traveling doesn't have to be done with another. That being said, I take precautions... but there's plenty of unwanted harassment right here in the US of A.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:42 AM
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They do but not at the expense of someone else. Even the healthiest pregnancy requires a host (with current technology). Bodily autonomy is the priority here. Which is why you can't force a dad to donate marrow to his dying three year old without informed, written consent. Even if he's the only match. Even if the three year old will die without the transplant. Even though the procedure time, length, and intensity is less painful, less dangerous, and less invasive than even the easiest third of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:37 AM
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What's that? Is it good?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:32 AM
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A "persuasive" argument doesn't make it a correct one or a moral one. That being said, even if you consider it a life, no person has to sacrifice the access to their body or let an intruder stay inside their physical self. People aren't blood bags. And in fact the few who offer the use of themselves temporarily to be a donor have to consent. Informed consent in writing to donate a kidney to your dying toddler or to even have a marrow transplant for your ailing middle schooler. Because it would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:32 AM
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I like to ask women why women who miscarry get upset Some women grieve. Some feel relief. Some are glad. Some are sad. It also depends on how far along. If they were five months along probably they wanted the child and had already imbued it with qualities, began building a life for them in a nursery/bedroom based on what their hopes were. The miscarriage can be the destruction of those hopes, the dissolving of the picture they had already begun to paint. Some feel it was their baby. Some feel it…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:30 AM
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We're all going to have different answers for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:24 AM
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What's the new block function? Did this subreddit remove its rule about 'no blocking'?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:13 AM
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For someone it would be a good deal. I wouldn't take that deal in a million years. I'm almost never going to cook for someone else. I hate it and I'm not good at it. Need a bug removed? I can do it. Basic plumbing repairs? I can do it. Basic carpentry? I can do it. Kitchen skills? Nah. They can feed themselves, or if I'm living with someone I will happily take on three grueling chores if I don't have to cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:11 AM
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Almost everyone looking for it has sex at some point, most with various partners over the years. Most people aren't good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:09 AM
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"There is neither male nor female, for ye are all one in Christ Jesus". The Bible is gender abolitionist confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:03 AM
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Wait until you hear what politicians in the US and people in this very subreddit want....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:53 AM
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That's quite a date!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:52 AM
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Yes. If I were looking to date and I found him attractive and compatible, definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:52 AM
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It's unhealthy to make romance/sex your only or primary interest in life but I agree, sex is awesome and one of life's greatest pleasures (for many).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:48 AM
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Americans are just outright denied medical support or help with something like affording insulin and just die before they even live long enough to get to the 'waiting for an appointment' part. People dying all the time due to insurance falling through or maintaining their condition being too expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:45 AM
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No she's done this to the most milquetoast popular queries too... if OP abandoned them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:43 AM
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I simply used the debates on Twitch as an example of where it can clearly be demonstrated or seen how women respond. Except that it's not an example of clear demonstration of anything other than how a produced personality on a platform of cultivating content creators gaining your attention. That's not an example of a clear demonstration of seeing how 'women respond'. Humans, regardless of gender have both the capacity for logic and the reality of having emotions. You thinking Twitch is a relevan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:43 AM
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Statistically you are still likely to have a relationship, get laid and likely marry some day, but you're timeline might deviate from the norm. Most people are ordinary. Most people aren't conventionally attractive. Most people (depending on your country) are poor or close to it. However... most people do not have a noxious personality. Most people have had a friend who was a woman. These might give you more of a disadvantage than the average person. You're still likely to be (if in the US) marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:35 AM
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There's nothing logical about deducing your ideas about gender dynamics or relationships from what you watch on Twitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:29 AM
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No they don't. By brownshirts I mean in the West. You don't think the west has nukes? Or that some of the people making these decisions aren't by every metric except the garb a brownshirt? Or we give them families or they will march. Give who to families or who will march? Do you really want Nazism 2.0 because Becky wants to party with the girls at age 30, have brunches, meet hotties and drink Starbucks until bursting? Pretty sure forcing the Starbucks girl to be raped is pretty nazi-ish. No the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:28 AM
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There is a post with links from this very subreddit that goes into it with the source and the breakdown. It also notes that a vast majority of men have had sex in that last year (closing in on 80%) which is particularly impressive considering how many people lost use of their dick with long COVID, how many people likely divorced recently, how many people are employed away from spouses for things like the DOD (largest employer in the US) et cetera. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/commen…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:24 AM
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Users... not creating content. Read again. Most women aren't making content for TikTok. If you go to TikTok for serious content without a skeptical eye or a realization that most of the stuff is fed to you with editing and agenda, I've got a bridge to sell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:21 AM
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US Census, US Survey on Sexual Health, GSS, population of unmarried adults living together with children in the same household. To be fair the data tends to stop at age 60-65 where 98% of people have either been married, dated multiple people, or are living together... it could be closer to 99% by age 70 or older.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:18 AM
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Now do the massive amount of shit women talk about short, balding, fat or broke men with absolute impunity. Most women are close to broke, most men are close to broke. Most of them date (more often each other but it depends). Short guys still get married and have kids, some of whom are short and some are not. Plenty of women not only don't talk 'massive shit' about short, balding, fat, or broke men, but many of us date them. If someone calls a fat chick 'worthless land whale' and she responds by…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:15 AM
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However, I fail to see how someone can be lonely when they're seeing and interacting with their partner very often. Well whether you personally can see it or not it's a thing. You can be lonely (or depressed) even with a loving boyfriend or girlfriend. Loneliness generally isn't 'cured' by dating or even getting into a relationship. It usually takes many things coming together to overcome loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:05 AM
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Well true because there isn't a Soviet Union and hasn't been for quite a long time. As for the brownshirts, some already have nukes. That doesn't mean your response is to offer them a girl, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:04 AM
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Regardless, finding a date doesn't cure either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:03 AM
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Doesn't seem to be the exception. Most people are ordinary, not wealthy, not super fit, not conventionally attractive, yet most men (and a slightly smaller percentage of women) are sexually active, marry by their late twenties or early thirties, and have multiple sexual partners and relationships within a lifetime. Arranged marriages exist but are rare (particularly in the US). Marriages of convenience exist but are rare. Most people who get together (whether to date or fuck or a relationship or…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:01 AM
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TikTok is an entertainment platform and what you view on there is based on what the algorithm finds excites you the most/you interact with the most. TikToks that go viral enough to be 'popular' with a large variety of people are often entertainers, content creators, making things for view and to provoke, they're not representative of the average woman. The average woman (most women) aren't making any content on TikTok. People view what they find entertaining not what is realistic. Same goes for …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:55 AM
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Not sure which country you're in but most women in the US are married or in long-term relationships by their thirties. You're talking about a smaller percentage of women. Men too. Most men in the US are in a long-term relationship or married by their early thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:45 AM
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I doubt they even ask out ten women they like per week.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:43 AM
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It's really not. Some of the struggles we face overlap with your and some (overall) are distinct. But it's not easy for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:42 AM
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Or just leave to a country where you are the Chad. Most men and women have neither the means nor the flexibility in their lives or regular obligations to do this (US).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:41 AM
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You're painting an unrealistic scenario. Most women (US) have multiple sexual partners (though only a little more than half of what men have on average) in a lifetime. People who 'sleep around' don't have problems finding marriage ultimately. Most get married or get into long term relationships with people who are fine with their history or don't care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:39 AM
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Either way, the solution to preventing terrorism from the small percentage of incels who do it isn't to pressure someone who doesn't want them to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:36 AM
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Rejection is a normal part of dating, regardless of gender. If it hasn't happened to someone yet they probably haven't dated much/don't ask out that many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:30 AM
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Women in the workplace isn't the cause of that, with them working came more income to spend on products and services, not to mention unless you were middle class/upper class you DID have to work as a woman before women's liberation (as maids, as nurses, as nannies, as teachers, as laundresses et cetera) Wages didn't stagnate and housing prices don't rise because women work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:28 AM
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I mean a campaign like that just seems misguided. Most women (particularly in Italy) know that it's best if they want a child they have one by their mid-thirties or before 40 before they are even a teen. I feel like posters like that would cause more people to get a bisalp to permanently prevent pregnancy than it would encourage women who don't want babies to have babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:26 AM
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Online dating makes dancing monkeys out of decent men, A decent man would never make a mockery or a 'dancing monkey' out of himself. I know this creates its own set of serious problems that women have to navigate but in case you haven’t gathered yet im sort of despairing at how fucked things have gotten and I don’t see a solution in sight. What is fucked up about someone choosing to be with someone they want if that person also wants them? Guys should have enough self respect and decency to avoi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:22 AM
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Same. I have dated people of all sorts in this way. Being rich doesn't make you a better dinner companion or better in bed or more fun or more kind (or even more relaxed/cool). There are rich jerks and poor jerks. There are wonderful people of a variety of incomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:19 AM
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Capitalism and its consequences definitely make it difficult for people to go out in the evenings and meet their community, difficult to have time and energy in between work and side hustles to prepare for dates, reduce third spaces and them being made for people to loiter to get to know their neighbors or flirt with someone at the park while waiting for sunset or what have you. Arts budgets slashed so there are fewer things going on in the community on weekends where you can meet people or take…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:16 AM
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If you are suffering a deep loneliness or depression, getting a gf isn't going to cure it, even if it's a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:11 AM
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Solve what problem? I could be misunderstanding you, please correct me, but there are many ways to handle and quell brownshirts that don't have anything to do with dating or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:09 AM
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In the US there are more (and a higher percentage of) sexless adult women right now than men. Most people are straight and most of them get married or into long term relationships (more than 95% before 50 and approximately 98% by 60-65). Thus, we should be starting with any voluntary measures to decrease the number of male untouchables to a manageable level. What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:08 AM
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They're not the same but in (some) ways they can actually be deeper. I have a bond with one of my sisters that nothing compares to, it is the deepest, truest bond I know, though obviously I feel very differently about romantic interests, and they are special to me in their own way it's nothing as vast or connected as this bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:05 AM
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Co-op living spaces Sisters who live together Five friends who buy a house together A punk DJ acquaintance of mine lives in Toronto (incredibly expensive housing) and basically has this with traveling musicians (sometimes is just a night while a visitor is in town), and sometimes friends who then stay for months or years (one for a decade) and pay the rent or contribute to groceries, or do other work to keep the place in good condition et cetera. Granted some have been close friends and some hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:02 AM
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Even going from no relationship to a good relationship doesn't cure loneliness or depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:57 AM
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GF/BF is not a cure for loneliness or depression. Some of those who have actually been in relationships will tell you that the loneliest they ever felt was not during the years they pined for a partner, but while sleeping in bed next to her. You can be happy, healthy, and fulfilled without romance or sex (physiologically you generally do need to get one off now and again to reduce atrophy/cancer risk/pelvic wall issues, but that doesn't require a partner). No doctor (whether physical health or m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:57 AM
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Also some men and women (myself included) are attracted to fat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:53 AM
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It would be illogical considering most men (US, younger in many other countries) are married or in long-term relationships before their 40s. Most get laid before the end of their 17th year, more than 90% by age 25. It's only about 2% that remain unmarried with no long term relationships or sex. Lower, because there are women in that 2% and there is a much higher percentage of women asexuals for example than men who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:51 AM
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That's not true at all, most are sexually active by the time they reach the end of their 17th year (US), most are married or in a long-term relationship (usually several of the latter) before their 30s. You're talking about a 2% of people left before retirement age (actually earlier the studies usually stop at 60 or 65) without having experienced marriage or a long-term relationship. And most of that 2% is likely asexuals and most asexuals are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:40 AM
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You misspelled "lying" No, I mostly date men but occasionally date women. I've swiped right on people who didn't look that dissimilar to Lizzo. I never swipe right on someone I'm not genuinely attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:38 AM
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I grew up in a progressive part of the country and haven't been an adult that many years and regardless of what media I consumed or was exposed to the messages were rarely more uplifting than demanding ('get into bikini shape', 'body hair is gross', 'play hostess', 'periods should be secrets', 'don't look desperate', 'smile', 'A in class, why not an A+', 'you need a makeover for him to like you', and on and on and on. Meanwhile so much media for men tells them they are a strong confident lumberj…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:36 AM
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I mean if I were a big black woman I might find it a compliment. As a pale size medium one who never wears feathers or neon I'd just find it a curious and confusing compliment but a compliment nonetheless. That being said I find her attractive (I have swiped right on women who look somewhat like her) but don't necessarily think my boyfriend would. It's all relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:34 AM
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At the end of the day, they still crave validation from being desired by the opposite gender. It doesn't seem like gay dudes on the whole resent straight guys just because straight guys aren't attracted to them (even if they have crushes or unrequited love for those straight guys). But something like this would be pretty hard to get data for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:30 AM
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Actually a poster here the other data posted data showing the opposite... there were more sexless women out there than men (US). I believe it was the GSS data.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:28 AM
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I don't think anyone should 'lower their standards'. I think everyone should be open to the possibility they might be a different person five years from now, but nobody should date someone they're not attracted to just to get laid/get a date. The fact is, so many people look at me and assume they know the kind of guy or girl I'm into and generally they're wrong. Also I never know who is going to reject or accept me, it has nothing to do with their perceived 'status' or if they meet conventional …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:27 AM
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Protip: If a woman insists on paying half the bill, she doesn't want another date with you. I guess all the people I've gone on second dates with have been imaginary? A majority of people in the US believe the first date should be split/pay your own bill, regardless of gender. You'll second guess yourself or miss out on potentially the lust of your night or the love of your life if you assume someone insisting on paying for themselves isn't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:09 AM
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I am from a Nordic country, where it is a given that the check be paid separately when dining out. The man paying is not a part of our culture at all. This is true in the United States as well for the majority, almost 70% of Americans believe each party should pay for themselves or offer to split on dates (first dates in particular). The remaining 30% also includes older generations which are more likely to subscribe to this somewhat archaic idea. Keeping in mind, their entire lives where where …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:04 AM
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Communicating, processing emotions, sharing feelings... not throwing your controller at someone's head because you died in CoD or screaming epithets at someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:53 AM
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Short guys are as attractive to me as tall guys or medium-height guys. I don't care about salary/income but I won't date someone I have to be the sole financial support system for. So the examples you give are pretty even. As far as being on the spectrum, depends on the meltdown. If they scream hurtful things or talk in a movie theater while the movie is playing we're not going to gel. If they on the other hand have a panic attack and need to be escorted out I can do that. Or if they need me to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:38 AM
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Western society is badly set up if one is to rely on these other relationships to fulfill their intimacy needs. That's just an impulse that you have... it doesn't bear out. And it's not a purely western thing. Research from all different cultures and influences shows that people can live happy healthy lives without sex but not without all human contact and connection. I used to think that work would be a good place to find new friends or whatever but at most workplaces I've seen, no one really h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:23 AM
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80% of US women aren't even on Twitter and have limited use of social media accounts. Plenty of women on there don't use it for dating or respond to DMs. As far as leverage, both people have the right to say 'no' or yes. Usually when people get together (unless arranged) it's because they both 'opened the gate' to each other in a mutual way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:20 AM
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Paying a woman who by their biological nature The existence of the clit proves there are biological reasons for sex that have nothing to do with procreation. Also the fact that up to 40% of pregnancies end in natural miscarriages... and plenty of biologically hale people throughout history have chosen not to have kids or not had the luck to even if they were trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:16 AM
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Most divorces are filed for things like infidelity, lack of commitment, addiction, abuse. It's smart to divorce over things like that, especially if children are involved/at risk. As far as women not wanting relationships in general, not sure where you are, but relationship-wanting is pretty popular among men and women throughout the US (other countries too I just haven't looked so much at that data).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:13 AM
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I would agree that nobody in their right mind does. Plenty of people out of their minds do though, on niche subreddits like this one, and in Discord forums, and elsewhere in the virtual and actual world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:11 AM
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You don't know most women and streamers (entertainers) and content creation platforms aren't there to give you a realistic view of the average women or 'most women'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:09 AM
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Women can not respond logically - it's seen over and over again. "It's seen over and over again" is hardly a logical way to come to a conclusion. You realize Twitch is an entertainment platform? Guests are often paid in money or by other means to be on someone's show? Sometimes they are selected (or the streamers themselves) for portraying a character, personality, or being provocative. Using entertainment/content creation platforms (YouTube, Twitch, TikTok, IG) as 'proof' of 'how women are' is …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:08 AM
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The point is, that when men express any kind of preference let alone a “requirement” they are met with chants of “man up” or accusations of misogyny, toxic masculinity, etc. I generally only observe this if it's not stated as a preference but rather trying to devalue women who just don't get their pp hard (you saw this with the Jordan Peterson backlash). He didn't understand that just because he (who is married and hasn't dated in almost half a century) doesn't find certain models hot, that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:06 AM
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Men aren’t obligated to do anything at all. Feel free to be celibate Most men (US) are having sex. Most men (and women) are (at least initially) attracted to the person they are fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:09 AM
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I would encourage you and anyone never to agree to a date with someone you don't want. In fact, it would be completely unethical to pretend to be interested in someone you're not just to get a date/get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:07 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:06 AM
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Data on people in retirement homes who have regular visits from family (US). A majority do not get visitors or phone calls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:58 AM
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No they don't. Nobody has an obligation to supply another person with sex, full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:54 AM
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No most couples are straight and 98% of people date and have sex (and most of them ultimately marry). So unless you think 98% of people are 'elite'/'top' percent (in which case I'd like to see what makes you think that) most people eventually get with someone where there is mutual attraction (at least at the beginning).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:48 AM
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You're just making things up now. I have been so very consistent on this in that when extreme situations such as the ones I mentioned are not applicable that it is rude to just cut contact. I think your assumptions about me are coming from an emotional place instead of a rational one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:44 AM
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We'd have to know the full context. If someone wasn't respecting her 'no'/was coercive, stalking her work/personal information/ threatened her et cetera, it's perfectly acceptable for her to drop all contact without explanation. It would also be acceptable for a guy to do this. If there has been no stalking/abuse/coercion/threats et cetera... then any semi-decent adult would simply type 'I don't feel we're compatible, and I wish you well' before unmatching or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:08 AM
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Everyone knows what ghosting is. It's when you simply disappear from an ongoing set of interactions. The original and most common use of the phrase is someone who you have dated multiple times/met in person multiple times suddenly drops communication for no discernible reason/blocks you/doesn't say goodbye. It's acceptable if someone is being coercive, stalking you, abusive, won't take 'no' for an answer, has threatened you or your family or friends, or assaulted you on a date or something. Reje…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:06 AM
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Right but if you had married before you both turned 25 you would have been likely to divorce. Notice the indication is marrying young not having a relationship young. Plenty of long-lasting couples meet when young but they have a long engagement and don't rush into marriage. Waiting until you are 25 or older (regardless of how old you are when you meet) improves your chances of not divorcing considerably.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:59 AM
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I don't know, we're heading closer and closer together in this respect. Just see extreme religious fundamentalists in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:33 AM
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They're perfectly visible if you enter one. Again, Southern California might be different as the "Hollywood standard" is still very strong there and there's a lot more drive for size zeros due to the part of the country and the movie industry. I'm not about to start snapping photos randomly in a Nordstrom just to satisfy someone on a Reddit thread. If you google it it will show you clothing and models though. Some of them are under 'Big and Tall'.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:25 AM
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Admittedly Southern California might be very different considering the "Hollywood standard" but in northern California, DC, Baltimore, Atlanta, they have them in Nordstrom, Neiman Marcus, and Kohl's.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:18 AM
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I can't speak for all of us, but it just means that there is no social obligation to force yourself to fuck people you don't want. That women's bodies are not just socially obligated to date specific men (or any men, or anyone, though asexuals are very rare). That men pressuring women to 'lower their standards' and to give the guy they don't want 'a chance' is acting like women have some sort of obligation to supply men with sex. I also notice women on reddit in general telling struggling dudes …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:13 AM
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But there’s also an activism aspect to it in their advertising I disagree. It's pure marketing. They reach more people who will open their wallets to them if they target fat women (a majority of women in the US) or fat men (a majority of men in the US) and their supportive thin siblings/friends/parents, than if they just target to thin people or fatphobic people. There are fat dude mannequins in some of the most popular departments stores in the US. Additionally, it's one out of every 30 models …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:58 AM
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Where are you getting these ideas from?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:36 AM
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I've supported myself since the age of 17. During this time period (late teens/very early twenties) I had as many as four jobs simultaneously (at least two were full-time at any given time), and sometimes went months without a full day off. I still had time for my dating life, but obviously was not compatible with people who had carefree 'youthful free time'. I was only with people who were cool with my obscene work hours or were similarly busy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:36 AM
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I'm not seeing anything showing that a women's finances or even finances in general are the number one cause of divorce in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:33 AM
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I cannot make the decision for anyone but myself, however, I think people should examine the reasons why they want someone who is less experienced and has fewer good experiences or excellent lovers to compare someone to. History is important in the sense that you want to know how someone treated their previous partners (were they loyal, did the end things/try to end things amicably/civilly, were they kind) and also how they were treated (were they abused by their previous partner, do they want m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:49 PM
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So, go gay? Just be less picky, in the words of a lot of men here. It has to be an ACTUAL REASONABLE AVAILABLE option. So that's my point. The way some straight men think of gay men as not a viable option (they're not attracted) is the way some straight women think of some straight men as not a viable option (they're not attracted). Gay men are not available to most straight men. Patently untrue. Many, many, gay men are happy to satisfy a straight man. They just are aware that it's not going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:41 PM
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Where are you seeing this? For the entirety of the United States? I think you might just be looking at a state or county.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:40 PM
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So this is what we call a 'Daily Community Chat', basically it's informal, anyone can jump in. I was asking how you define 'single'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:39 PM
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I wouldn't agree that women run the dating world. As far as being 'good enough'. You only have to be in the 98%. And really, probably a lot more than that since the 2% who never have relationships but want them/have sex but want it, are likely mostly agoraphobics and asexuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:38 PM
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Specifically for dating? The last few years (pandemic not withstanding) mostly online. Before that a combination of online, at school/classes, through sports/team events/team competitions, at barcades, at bars, at festivals and cons/sci-fi conventions, parties, and through friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:36 PM
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Yeah isn't it sad that she got the idea somewhere that as some sort of social obligation she should give special specific attention romantic to guys she wasn't interested in? Now don't get me wrong she's a jerk, but she was also doing what a lot of men in this subreddit promote, talking to someone she wasn't into in a romantic way. Now women should learn so If you're only being a good person to 'catch up to men' or 'catch up to women' you're not a good person. If you're only being a good person …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:02 PM
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Pete Davidson manages his issues... gets help for them, is not dishonest about them, has changed his lifestyle to be healthier while dealing with them... that takes courage, it takes self-awareness, it takes both confidence and humility, that's likely what people are attracted to. Not the fact that he has these issues but that he takes pains to manage them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:58 PM
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Perhaps you live in a very unusual insular community but the expectations on styled and quality of hair, clothing, jewelry, and style and grooming in general (nails, shaving, et cetera) is much higher and much more prominent with a lot more external pressure for women than for men. Men can ace a job interview (all other qualities being equal) in a button down shirt and pants and a comb run through his hair, can have a beard in most jobs. Women are expected to have styled hair (either curled or i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:54 PM
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Do you think those stores have plus sized mannequins because corporate wants to boost self-esteem for people or do you think it's because most Americans are fat and if they want to make money on their products they should target a broader demographic? Again, Victoria's Secret didn't add plus size models because that company has some noble idea of uplifting women on a spiritual or confidence level... they did it because they want to sell lingerie, and most women are fat in the US, thus if they ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:36 PM
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If you think posters who demean brokies online don't get backlash you aren't looking at the comments. A woman does this and she gets death threats. Being called a 'golddigger' is like the mildest form of backlash she gets, it's usually not just politely-worded criticism or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:32 PM
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I think you are missing something big. Corporations and advertisers didn't join 'the movement' because they have some noble desire to see people accept themselves. They go where the money is. Most people (men and women) in the US are fat. Victoria's Secret doesn't occasionally (still the minority of their models) use plus sized models because they are trying to boost people's self-esteem... they do it because fat women shop. Most women with spending money in the US are fat. When they see a model…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:24 PM
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Work smarter not harder. The fact of the matter is though, no matter how smart people are, or how hard-working, most will not make six figures individually. But if that is someone's goal they should focus on passive income or less expensive and less time-consuming certifications that are still in high demand. Also find someone who is also on the grind but still likes to date/be sexual. Some parts of the year I am working from 9am until 1am. So I only date people who don't expect to see me every …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:05 PM
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Oh well if that were the case I would have been to their home already. If I hadn't been I'd want to meet in a neutral place first still.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:03 PM
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You’re missing a lot of context and modern sexual access to disgust Huh? I’m a late bloomer. When I bloom I’m going wreck pussies. Hopefully. Maybe. You very well probably will. In a good way for all involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:02 PM
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Finances aren't even in the top five.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:01 PM
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No literally all they have to do is go on Grindr.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:01 PM
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For millions of years men and woman have used body language. For millions of years people have suffered in silence after having been raped. Your 'history' isn't a pleasant one. Yes there are some cases where all this can be done without words (like a hug, you close some of the distance between you and open your arms, if they close the distance and complete the embrace that's consent). There are others where you don't know. Sometimes people just want to kiss, sometimes they don't want to kiss. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:00 PM
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Yes a lot more women struggled silently with sexual assault back then compared to now (not saying that's what you did, I'm just saying that even as difficult as it is for someone to report sexual assault today or speak out, it was even more difficult and even less support then).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:58 PM
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Better to kill a mood than hurt someone, assault them, or rape them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:55 PM
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Not every person expresses mood the same way. Guys misread me all the time, fortunately almost all the ones I've associated with have never tried to rape me. I've had saying please and thank you to someone while making them coffee as a teen be interpreted as me 'giving them signals that I wanted them'. Everyone's different. You don't know automatically what they want, how they want it, and if they want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:55 PM
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What the fuck, no I don't. What you're talking about that you would be okay with for you is rape to me. You don't know which person you are dealing with so it's best to get clear consent. You don't risk raping someone because you're worried about 'ruining the mood'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:54 PM
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Right but she might be okay with oral but not penetration. She might be okay with penetration but only with a condom and spermicidal gel inserts. She might be okay with vaginal intercourse but not anal. You need to know before you go sticking things inside her. It doesn't have to be clinical and both parties should communicate what they want. It's not "I want to put this appendage in your orfice", you have a world of sexy things to say that are not that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:52 PM
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I don’t understand why anyone would think it’s a mood killer to ask for consent? Because there are people in this very thread who would rather risk assaulting and hurting someone than risk 'ruining the mood'. Not understanding that rape and assault are horrific and 'ruining the mood' is just another way of consent being revoked which a person (regardless of gender) has every right to do. If someone tries to fuck me without my permission I am running away from attempted rape and likely calling th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:50 PM
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No Louis CK showed his dick and did other things to people who were employees. He completely went against one of his own previous jokes where he discussed consent. He knew the right thing to do and he did the fucked up thing. His stuff isn't as egregious as some but it's still shit behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:48 PM
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Well you ask similar questions related to kissing and other touching leading up to sexual acts. Replace one body part in the sentence with something less intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:47 PM
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The only body language in which you could take as consent from me would be if we were both signing in ASL or something an enthusiastic and specific yes. If someone puts their mouth on me without my okay, that's assault. And there are plenty of women like me. The fact is, you don't know what someone wants in this way and what they are okay with until you ask. Honestly, it still disturbs me how many people would rather risk raping someone than risk 'ruining the mood'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:44 PM
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Someone puts their mouth on me without my consent they are violating me. I am not every women but there are plenty of women like me. And you don't know who is who until it's too late if you aren't keeping consent foremost in mind and practice. It continues to disturb me that people would rather risk raping someone than risk potentially 'ruining the mood'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:36 PM
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Just a note, a man has the right to consent or revoke consent as well. 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:33 PM
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I assume it is a pretty wide spread phenomenon that many women consider it ruining the mood if you verbally ask for consent You probably shouldn't fuck these women and additionally, you don't know if she consents ahead of time. Better to ask and be rejected than to not ask and commit rape. Why do you think that it is a preference for many women to communicate with body language rather than words? It actually isn't unless you are only polling women 50+. It's also about not being clinical or awkwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:32 PM
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Not really. Lost them millions in 'He Gets Us' Jesus bullshit advertising, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:25 PM
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Remember the clit isn't just the outwardly visible 'button', it's a much larger organ shaped somewhat like a wishbone. The 'button' is a tiny percentage of the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:24 PM
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Most women (80%) don't even come by penetration alone (and the remaining 20% are often capable of non-penetrative orgasms as well) so really you don't even need a dick at all to make us come.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:23 PM
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It's also the only organ made exclusively for sexual pleasure. It has no other biological purpose. Sometimes it sucks being a woman, but this is not one of the things that sucks about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:21 PM
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If forget how many but it has twice the nerve count of the entirety of the penis. It also wraps around and behind the vaginal walls so the 'button' is literally just the tip of the ice berg. You're missing when the clitoris was mapped out (only for the first time in 2005, yikes, how low a priority science is when it comes to the only organ whose sole purpose is sexual pleasure for mostly women). '90s information would likely not have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:21 PM
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Are you in their walls?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:18 PM
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It depends. If they are under 45 (a millennial or a zoomer) they are half as likely to divorce as older generations should they decide to get married. Also less likely to face/participate in infidelity, and more likely to find happiness within the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:18 PM
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For relationships to happen, either women or men need to lower their standards No, they don't. Plenty of people on this planet. You might be stuck if you're unwilling/unable to leave a small town but otherwise, there is someone for everyone out there. 98% of people end up in relationships, most of them by their 20s, and all of that 98% by retirement age (US), actually a little earlier, most of the data only goes through age 65. The remaining 2% are likely agoraphobics and asexuals who are avoidi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:17 PM
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Plenty of men have standards and a modicum of self-respect, just because you don't surround yourself with them doesn't mean they aren't everywhere. What you are calling 'taking away men's ability' is just consent. Nobody can help who they are attracted to and no woman (or anyone) should just 'take one for the team' and date someone or fuck someone they aren't into just for some warped sense of social obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:13 PM
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Antinatalism is not popular at all, where are you? It's being discussed more today than in prior times but it's still incredibly unpopular. Most people still have kids and still want to have kids. I say this as someone who does not want kids and doesn't think the world needs more people but who also supports families and wants every couple to decide for themselves what is best for them and if they want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:11 PM
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How are your sex lives? Unbelievable. I won't detail here because people would just call bullshit/be skeptical. We often joke that nobody would believe us. Are you engaging in sexual activities with a another person? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:08 PM
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Single in what way? I will never marry (never wanted to, never will) and have never sought out a long term relationship (though rarely I will agree to them), but I am seeing someone. Am I single? Some people define single as unmarried. Some define it as 'not-in-a-long-term-relationship', some define it as not dating at all, even casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:06 PM
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Yet the reality is, most people who date, fuck, marry, are not making six figures. Most people are attracted to each other (at least at the start of the relationship or marriage), most people are sexually active, most people are doing all this even while fat, poor, not conventionally beautiful, and not incredibly charming. The reality is, romance and sex are inevitable for most people who leave their homes (and even some who never/rarely do thanks to online dating or friends who bring the party …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:05 PM
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Most divorces are from things like infidelity, abuse, addiction, lack of commitment... pretty sure those are what ruined the marriage/family if they had kids. A marriage (or any optional relationship) should build up both parties, be a place of solace and delight. No it's not going to be puppies and rainbows all the time, but it should be a net good for all parties involved most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:02 PM
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Designed? Not really. Beneficial to them? Sometimes. There have been women and men with fertility/virility issues forever, (or on a smaller scale those who just didn't want kids), they still got married going back millennia. A small (though larger percentage than ever) chunk of married couples don't want kids, they still got married. They wanted the title or the rights or the tax breaks, or the ceremony to be recognized by the state, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:01 PM
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I'm never getting married but plenty of married couples give each other oral. And plenty of us women (whether we want to marry or not) love giving head.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:00 PM
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It means enthusiastic consent and integrity. Dating someone you're not attracted to just to get laid/get a gf/bf is extremely unethical, unless you both are friends who agreed to practice and were open about not being attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:58 PM
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Most first dates in the US are coffee anyway, so while goldiggers (and guy bums) exist, they aren't that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:56 PM
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The most common first date in the US is coffee, most people pay for themselves, a basic cuppa is $3 (more obviously for lattes and such). Almost 70% of Americans believe the bill should be split or each person should offer to pay for themselves. Most of the remaining 30% is likely old people who still abide by archaic traditions (but admittedly I can't be sure about that).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:55 PM
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I literally won't agree to date anyone who wants to meet at an expensive place for the first date or wants to pay for me. We have to both agree on the place, and they have to agree we will each pay for ourselves or I'm saying goodbye and not coming on the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:54 PM
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I mean I won't go to someone's home on a first date regardless of how thirsty I am and how much we want each other. I'd have to meet in person first in a neutral public area with other people around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:53 PM
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Nah, food is one of my greatest physical pleasures in life, and I have a limited number of calories in a day I can eat to maintain myself where I want to be... I'm not going to eat shit. I'd rather have one meal a day and have it taste good than drink three chalky protein drinks (that being said, there are some tasty protein drinks out there, they're just expensive and not easy to store).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:51 PM
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Hell even US advice in the '90s wouldn't really be relative to today. That's why I chuckle when people want to go to Jordan Peterson for dating advice when he hasn't dated in almost half a century... and never modern dating/online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:50 PM
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It really depends. I was raised in a progressive city in a progressive part of the US, but at every angle (parents, media, school, society) was told that a woman asking someone out appears 'desperate'. But I didn't care, I did it anyway. Some think a woman winking at a guy is desperate, others thing it's sexy and appealing or at least fun or flattering. It's a lot of cultural bullshit you have to wade through and just know that as long as you are reading the room, being respectful, being appropr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:49 PM
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It's not 'material' it's fact. Almost every human DOES need human connection to be happy and healthy. But that form of human connection can be family, friendships, mentors, et cetera in order to fulfill that. The reason she (and I rarely agree with Lilith but on this I do) keeps mentioning it is because she's countering the false narrative that continuously appears on here to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:46 PM
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Sure they matter but a) most people experience them throughout their lifetimes (98% in the US) and b) sex and romance are not necessary to health and happiness, however SOME form of human connection is but this can be friends, mentors, family, neighbors, colleagues, et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:45 PM
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Short guys do not need to pay for sex. Most of them are married by their early thirties (US) and (at least at the start of the relationship) are attracted to their partner and their partner to them. Most of them are in long term relationships well before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:44 PM
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Lacking relationships, sex, families, love, intimacy, and all the other stuff that comes along with it is a genuine health risk. The majority of healthcare professionals recognize that this is a problem. You DO need social connection to be healthy (except for a small percentage of humans who can be happy healthy hermits alone). However, those social connections do not have to be sexual or romantic in nature in order for someone to be healthy and happy. From a physiological standpoint someone wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:41 PM
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Very few men have such options unless in a relationship. Most of them do but not (just as for women) with people they're attracted to. They could do it with a lot lizard, a sex worker, or someone on Grindr. Availability of sex doesn't mean you want to have sex with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:38 PM
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Workhorse coffee: "Love is Believing All Women All The Time" How disingenuous. How is me saying don't intrinsically be skeptical of women just because they are women the same as me saying "love is believing all women all the time". It's additionally disingenuous because you are putting a variation of my username next to quotation marks for something I never said. I'm not a dude. And I reject "nice guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:35 PM
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Yeah go ahead. Just don’t be surprised when they reject you because chances are they will. Or just ask out everyone who is available and who you're attracted to. If you only ask out someone you think is in your "league" that's your choice, however, you're only shooting yourself in the foot. If there are 100 people at the club. And you are attracted to 60 of them but you only talk to/ask out over the course of a few weeks like 10 because you think they match your league you are leaving out the 2-…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:33 PM
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Yes but most elderly people don't have 'loving kids and grandkids'. Most of those who have grandkids those grandkids don't call them or visit them in the retirement home.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:26 PM
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It's also odd to think that women are all of us getting all the sex we want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:23 PM
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Men can have someone at their door to suck their dick in 10 minutes too. It doesn't mean the prospect is appealing for all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:23 PM
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Arguably (at least in the US based on the last two rounds of GSS data) a slightly higher percentage of men do this than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:21 PM
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They have just as much ability to be happy single as long as they have other social connections in their lives, same as women. (Friends, neighbors, family, mentors, mentees, colleagues, et cetera). Nobody needs a gf/bf to be happy and healthy... but just about every human does need SOME kind of social connection (friends/family) to be happy and healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:20 PM
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Evidence 1 You linked to a study about the very specific demographic of nurses in mid-to-late life. Not only is that a very particular demographic even among women, but considering the nature of the long-hours worked by nurses, it's likely that sharing the load of a household with a spouse would have a far stronger positive impact on them then on the average woman who doesn't work 12 hours shifts. "Marital transitions during earlier adulthood and subsequent health and well-being in mid- to late-…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:19 PM
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I mean being cautious about something where the long-term effects have disabled 4 million people (in the US alone who can no longer work even office jobs because of long covid) and where the treatments for long covid are still being developed is smart. COVID numbers are on the rise throughout the US (not sure about other countries). It's like any other risk, you take precautions and you go on with it. When I was last on the apps a few months back all the people I messaged I asked if they were wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:09 PM
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Myself included. I have the highest libido of anyone I've ever met (or heard of) and I still won't just hook up with a stranger. I'd have to get to know them over time and meet them in person to get an idea of them before I'd even consider kissing them much less something more intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:06 PM
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The people who are like this who are out and about living their lives you don't know are demi unless you became close friends with them. Sometimes not even then. There are plenty of people who are demi and they only go online twice a week to stream their favorite HBO show, not to visit posting websites, forums, or Discords.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:06 PM
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It's been shown (for both men and women) that a bad relationship or even a 'neutral relationship' is less healthy and happy than being single. But that a GREAT relationship is better for all involved than being single. So unless you both add significantly to each others' lives, it is better in most cases for people to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:03 PM
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I agree with the first part, not the second. In a relationship, both people should build each other up and add to each others' lives not detract.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:02 PM
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Women know they are a swipe away from hooking up with a cute guy if they happen to get the 'itch' So are men if they go on Grindr. But 'hooking up' is something you still do while single. Single just means either unmarried or not in a formal/long-term relationship usually. Did you have another definition? Women know they could probably get a fwb arrangement with one of their guy friends if their 'dry spell' becomes unbearable Not at all, most of my guy friends are seriously dating and we don't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:01 PM
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They married young (before 25). It's the number 1 indicator of divorce (US). I was right. They lasted two years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:56 PM
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Most people who stream, even if they have a dedicated and mildly growing audience, will never make enough to even pay a power bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:54 PM
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Sometimes yes, but not necessarily. I'm okay if my guy only has ambitions to finish a song he plays for free at a festival. It's about having a lust for life, not a six figure income. Most men aren't bringing in a good income (neither are most women), yet most men still date, have sex, get into relationships, and many get married. Just at different times in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:53 PM
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I don't think anyone (regardless of gender) should improve themselves solely to attract a date/partner. When you work out, you should do it for the body you want and what you and your doctor have agreed to, not what you think a future boyfriend would want. When you set and meet goals for your career path, you should do it based on who you want to be and what you want to accomplish, not based on how you think it will appeal to a future husband/wife/spouse. When you work on being a better person (…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:52 PM
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Yeah I'm not okay with the debt, or the military thing either. Plenty of people aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:40 PM
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Yes and the US data shows this to be true as well. Marrying young (under 25) is the #1 indicator of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:40 PM
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Marrying in your 20s is not that bad In your early twenties (under 25 it is the #1 indicator for divorce). If you two really are a good match then you can put off the engagement until age 24 at least. Growing up with another is a good thing. You can grow as a person and marrying can help you grow. Marrying doesn't 'help you grow'. All it is is a title and a certificate, couples who merely date long-term or live together long-term are identical except for the legal contract and what they call eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:39 PM
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I love women, I just am skeptical of the things they say If you're skeptical of things women say purely because they are women then no, it doesn't sound like you 'love women' at all. No woman will want to date you if you are skeptical of what they say just because they are a woman. But women really just need to exercise/not be homely. Why? Women and men who are not conventionally attractive almost always still date someone and at the start of that relationship there is mutual attraction, same fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:27 PM
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Even if a great partner, it would not be beneficial to many of us to be in a house-spouse role. For example I am miserable when having to do domestic tasks, I can't imagine not working a job long-term except after my expected early retirement. Having to host parties, be the sole person responsible for the home's errands, cleaning, cooking, decorating are awful to me. None of these things interest me (though I respect them in others and sit in awe of a tasty home-cooked meal). On the other hand, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:22 PM
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While they get to do literally anything else. Not remotely. The expectations on women (even women who work) to be responsible for the state of the household and all the scheduling is immense. Even growing up in a progressive city I was expected to 'play hostess' from a young age. When I became an adult, people held me responsible for how my date's car looked inside and out or how he kept his home (I wasn't even living there). Being a parent is a 24/7 job with no guaranteed bathroom or meal break…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:14 PM
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The stigma is less now. But plenty of women were prescribed 'pep' pills and other uppers which were basically just meth in the 1950s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:04 PM
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Even then lower middle class and lower income women still had to work (maids, nurses, teachers, laundrywomen). Sometimes backbreaking factory work as well. Only the somewhat well off women could afford to not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:02 PM
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Even severe. Some of the men in this chat preferred pictures of women who were actively heroin addicts but because their physique was thinner, they were desired. In most cases it's not about health and those who want thin women want them even if they are chainsmokers compared to an overweight woman who is an Olympic shotputter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:00 PM
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A higher percentage of men have an income over 0 than women but only slightly. There is a more significant chunk of men who are overweight though compared to women (US).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:58 PM
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Most women only voice concern if someone is saying they want to become a Passport Bro because they assume women in certain countries will 'comply', because it sounds like they want a server, not a partner, and a bit exploitative. Others just caution against targeting poverty-stricken women who will not be able to make a fair decision about if they genuinely like you or they just only want security for their family. Plenty of people find love overseas, and only some of those end in her leaving th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:56 PM
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You will die from lack of vitamin D and some sort of human connection. That being said the human connection doesn't have to be sexual or romantic in nature for you to live a fulfilling, healthy life. Dating can be cheap, depending on how walkable your city is or how far your date is willing to travel, it can be free.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:52 PM
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Yes. If I can't read you at all and you're not communicating and you don't seem to be emotionally interested or responsive, we're probably not going to vibe. Being emotionally vulnerable means you're not afraid to cry in front of me, not afraid to voice frustration, can feel and acknowledge those feelings, can talk to me about concerns you have. It does not mean being violent, throwing tantrums, screaming, shouting epithets at me or throwing glasses or cell phones, or consoles at the wall, and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:51 PM
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Well he’s not an above average/attractive guy so he should be shooting for his looksmatch or slightly below it. Nah, why limit yourself to a small percentage of those you find attractive. Instead, go for anyone you want (politely, respectfully). Let them decide if they want to reject you or not, you don't know what their 'type' is or if you are part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:46 PM
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There's nothing wrong with an anime shirt when you're out on the town as long as it isn't porn/hentai if you put a sharp blazer over it or wear it with some nice slacks or cool shoes. Too many though (of any gender) don't keep their clothes clean, darned, pressed, and with attention to how pieces pair together. A lot of upscale department stores will give you a free consultation with a personal stylist so you don't have to know how to do this intrinsically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:46 PM
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There's a huge range between expressing you want someone and becoming a door mat or a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:43 PM
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The same things I expect in a short-term one. Whatever we've agreed to. A maintained interest in sex and whatever our particular brand of devotion looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:41 PM
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Yeah, when you disconsidered women working half time as the study you are thinking about didn't do. In the US most women work full-time at a paying job and end up doing more than half of the housework and other household organizing, even if they work the same amount of hours as their spouse. Women (in the US) make most decisions for major appliances in the home and are in charge of the purchasing of them (washer, dryer, dishwasher, toilet) pretty sure men use or benefit directly from all those t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:39 PM
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Only about half of a percent (maybe less) of those I've gone on dates with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:30 PM
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Dude, the divorce rates have been ~50% from the implementation of no fault divorce. You're thinking over overall, whereas I keep illustrating that I'm talking about comparing younger generations to older generations. There's also no quality LMAO I guess it depends on how you define quality. Less infidelity, happier marriages seem to be a pretty good demonstration of quality. They're not doing it impulsively and they're still failing lol. Again, you take 100 married couples who have been married …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:27 PM
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True! If you're looking for a one-on-one monogamous relationship you only need to find one compatible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:56 PM
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If you take a room filled with 100 married couples under 40 who have been married 5 years, and 100 married couples from older generations who have been married 5 years, the zoomers and millennials are half as likely to divorce, have less infidelity, and report higher happiness in their relationships. When you compare the same marriage lengths in different generations, millennials and zoomers (not many zoomers yet because most are too young to marry), again the younger generations who are already…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:38 PM
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Women only marry up, by dividing the goods in half and not by contribution the men will in the ultmost majority be the one losing money. In the US just about half of households (and trending to an exact half) women make the same or more than the guys they are with. In the cases where the men make more it's often not more than a hundred or so difference a month. Most people in this day and age when/if they decide to move in are splitting expenses. Ok then, let the child for the guy. Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:33 PM
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What benefits are you talking about? 90% of divorces don't award anyone alimony, and the remaining sliver that do, some of the time that goes to the man. You usually only see this if someone's making six figures (pretty rare in the US). Child support is for the children, if you have a kid regardless of gender, yes you need to support them financially until they are 18 in most cases, and the mom shouldn't be solely stuck with paying for college either. Also child support isn't always awarded and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:17 PM
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They are marrying just a slightly smaller percentage of people and generally a couple of years later in life (28 instead of 26 for women in the US) for example. But among married couples in younger generations they are half as likely to divorce compared to older generations. They are also less likely to cheat, and report higher levels of happiness in regards to the marriage compared to generations of people who are at the time of this writing in their 40s and older. A majority of people are stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:12 PM
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40% of all relationships (but you're right it didn't specify how long-term they are). If we include casual dating/fwb it's probably a much larger piece of the pie but I don't know. I don't know of research that breaks it down so specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 09:32 PM
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Perhaps. We were teens. We only went to dances together, hung out, and kissed a few times, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 09:31 PM
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Not remotely. We would not have been compatible and I would have been miserable dating people like that. They are free to find a better match and so was I.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:54 PM
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You're including school/professional. This is the breakdown. 1 source of relationships is from Online Dating (40% and trending to be 50% by the end of the decade). Studies do not generally lump professional/academic circles with family/friend social circles and consider them distinct (which you should, they're an entirely different category). They're at about 30% each respectively (and dropping).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:53 PM
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Most people (pretty even among gender lines) aren't virgins by the end of age 17. And more than 90% aren't virgins by the time they hit 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:50 PM
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That's not true in the US. Most people don't hit their 'dating prime' until mid twenties at the earliest. Once you’re past college age, the best avenues for dating is closed off for you and you’re left with bars and dating apps. There are more options than these but OLD is the #1 source of relationships in the US by far. That doesn't mean you can't still meet people organically by going out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:49 PM
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You don't need legs to be a good lover or a hot boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:44 PM
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It didn't matter either way if they were a virgin or not. Many of us women (and probably some men too) don't want to be desired or hunted down or preferred due to our virginity or 'low n-count'. We avoid men who 'seek virgins'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:41 PM
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Lmao, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:40 PM
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I don't agree that such is true but let's say it is. Most virgin women aren't interested in a guy who is 'seeking them out for their virginity'. We want to be wanted as a person not a virginity status. We avoid men seeking virgins like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:40 PM
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That's history. Documented history. Look up the history of Ireland (last century) for one example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:36 PM
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Those statistics are not very good. Sure they are. Just because you are uncomfortable with the reality of what they say doesn't mean they aren't valid. Most men are married by their 30s and (at least at the start of the marriage) having regular sex. More than 70% of even younger men (US) are currently sexually active (and I believe the GSS data that just dropped shows that has actually gone UP). So a vast majority are. Men having sex like once a decade Where are you getting this idea from? ?>And…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:35 PM
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So? What does that have to do with anything? Most of us women who waited and weren't sexually active that young would still avoid someone who wanted us for our virginity or 'sought out virgins' regardless of if they were a virgin themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:32 PM
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Because most men and most women don't wait that long and don't want to wait that long. In the US most men and women have sex before the end of their 17th year. And it trends a bit younger in many other countries. Why do you think 'abstinence' has a 90% failure rate at preventing pregnancy? Because humans aren't interested in waiting. There is no benefit. Sex can often be a great time. And there is nothing morally superior about being a virgin (or about not being one).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:31 PM
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No... I was fine with virgin men. I was NOT fine with men who sought me out because of my virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:29 PM
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Men quite possibly a little more since they have a 'g-spot' in their prostate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:19 PM
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Being a virgin isn't morally superior. Neither is wanting to find a virgin to date. Most of us who waited before sex avoid people like you like the plague. We don't want to be desired for our virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:18 PM
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You're not even a good actor on the internet, why would you be in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:17 PM
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Why would you think most of us who were virgins a long time/late bloomers would want to be with someone tracking us for our virginity? Plenty of us deliberately avoided people looking to 'land' a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:17 PM
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Men and women tend to lose their virginity at the same age (17), most of them. And it's more than 90% (again pretty even among gender lines) by age 25. Most men and most women don't subscribe to the idea of virginity being better than having been sexually active.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:16 PM
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No, people were actually having sex for the first time even younger than they are now and no not exclusively in marriage... it was just hushed up in many cultures. They'd send away the pregnant teen for the summer to 'visit her aunt' (to have the baby and adopt it out).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:15 PM
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It's actually been found that it's worse for the kids if parents who no longer love each other or have an unhealthy relationship stay together. It's less damaging against the kids for the parents to divorce than for an unhappy and/or unhealthy couple to stay together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:13 PM
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Most women in their twenties aren't tradcons...and a vast majority of twenty somethings will not date thirty somethings (unless they are in their late twenties and the person is in their early thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:12 PM
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OLD is the #1 source for relationships it's true, but some people do better in person. That being said, I still think it's odd that some people have a 'purist' mentality about it, as though it's 'only allowed' to do one or the other when it's perfectly fine to leave four active apps updated monthly on the back burner while still socializing out in the world and meeting people organically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:10 PM
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Exactly. And how few make enough money on it to even pay their internet bill much less rent/mortgage?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:08 PM
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As someone who was a late bloomer, many of us who are/were virgins past 17 will avoid people like you like the plague. Most virgins don't want to be chased for being a virgin or hunted for being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:07 PM
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Many people overall use these to make the interface more practical or palatable, they are also needed by many people with disabilities in order to use Reddit at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:44 AM
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Some of them, definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:41 AM
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A shy socially awkward girl will still have been on plenty of dates and relationships, while a socially awkward guy would have had none. Socially awkward guys never having dates is a temporary state. 98% of people have dates (and most of them marriage) before retirement age (most of them by their thirties though and 90% of them have had sex by 25, most of those by age 17). And a vast majority are currently sexually active (US). In the US, 60% of young men are single while 30% of young women are.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:11 AM
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If youre in rich circles you have to provide money. Most wealthy people date other wealthy people. And plenty of us don't know what someone makes when we start dating them. It's not really that appropriate to discuss finances until you're sharing bills, just agreeing to what budget you want for dates (keeping in mind budget doesn't necessarily have anything to do with income). People who are saving for an early retirement for example may be bringing in six figures or more, but they are being car…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:53 AM
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A lack of romance or ability to find love can lead directly to death This isn't true at all. While it IS true that most humans need social connections/human connection to be healthy, that can come in the form of family or friends or a mentor as well. Romance and sex aren't required to be happy and healthy, they're just wildly popular. If we want men to stop killing themselves, we need to somehow make it easier for relationships to happen. Suicide is not caused by 'lack of girlfriend' and neither…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:43 AM
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It's not more accurate any way you cut it. Cis as in cisgender. Cis is an old term and definitely 'a thing'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:36 AM
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Well yeah you can get fired if you do something unprofessional. Throwing insults at people in the workplace can get you fired, even if you're a woman. If you're creating a 'hostile workplace' you can be fired. Women have just as much capacity to be fired or be nasty, but we have the experience more often of being encouraged to be nice, friendly, and hospitable from a young age compared to men. We're often trained, pressured from family, parents, media, and even school sometimes to keep the mood …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:17 PM
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Everyone is 'allowed to complain'. But if you put something out there, people might react to it. Even if it were a 'freedom of speech' scenario, that doesn't mean freedom from consequences, or freedom from differing opinions, or freedom from criticism. Nobody needs to (and pretty much nobody can) change who they are attracted to. It is disingenuous and unethical to pretend to be hot for someone just to get a date or get laid when really you're not interested in them. That being said, when you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:15 PM
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No but you won't necessarily see the attractive women who are introverted as often, because they don't necessarily come out into public (or even private) parties as often. In fact, being conventionally attractive can make you MORE introverted if your attractiveness gets you a huge amount of attention or a lot of unwelcome aggressive friendliness. Even the most social butterfly can become more of an introvert if it's all too much attention. It depends though. People on social media who are introv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:09 PM
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No some people who are unwillingly single are just unlucky or in a dry spell. Almost everyone either enters into a long-term relationship or a marriage eventually aside from those actively avoiding them. Those who have gone decades looking for someone and haven't found anyone are statistical outliers but it might not be that they suck, they just might be very rare. By retirement age in the US most people have either married or entered a long-term relationship. Approximately 98%. Now some of cour…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:07 PM
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It's absolutely not cheating if it's a sex worker who they aren't regularly meeting in person. That being said, I know some couples aren't cool with it, it is up to the individual to decide if they will enter into a relationship with someone who watches porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:02 PM
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Sure you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:01 PM
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I listen to music very regularly both for work and for personal time. It can heighten the effects of the sexual experience to have a good playlist going, or just get people in the mood, or soften the strange sounds of sex to a pleasant level. It can have a Pavlovian effect, there are definitely tracks that might get my partner going or me even more in the mood. Also if you or they have a good sound system the vibrations of the music can also enhance the physical pleasures of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:00 PM
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Bedroom stuff, and also honoring the requests they shyly made about things that made them uncomfortable. They didn't expect me to accommodate them but it was a) pretty easy to do and b) made me happy that I could make them more comfortable. I'm not some special magic person, there is plenty about me that is basic and pedestrian, but parts of me are strange and very accepting of strange so a lot of people's little preferences that are unusual are very much accepted by me, unless they hurt one or …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:58 PM
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Yeah I've had several paragraphs of an hour's worth of sifting through research to find the right studies and then the person you're responding to gets suspended or their posts revoked. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:54 PM
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Perhaps, regardless of gender, the ones who ARE good at flirting and ARE good at building intimacy are mostly already in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:52 PM
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They're not kinder if you don't look like/act like what they want you too... (see how they act if you are openly gay, or if you're black and dating someone white, or if you dress in an alternative way) they also sometimes feign kindness and then are nasty. But they WILL feed you if you are a guest more than in the north on average I'd say. But just like some in the north, some are kind and decent through and through.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:48 PM
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Isn't Seth MacFarlane chubby most of the time? Not extremely but somewhat? Also if you work in Hollywood, you're surrounded by a lot of actors. Most actors have to keep at a low body weight for their job (but not all, much higher percentage of chubby guys in Hollywood compared to chubby girls).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:46 PM
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You get used to it. If I cared about downvotes I wouldn't be here. Though keep in mind you never know who is downvoting you. I had someone accuse me of downvoting when I've never downvoted in this sub and rarely outside it. Three people had already downvoted them by the time I even saw their thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:45 PM
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It's not just that a lot of women are looking for tall guys... it's that the average woman is 4" shorter than the average man. It's less common unless you're taller than average like I am to find yourself looking down to the men in the room as a cis woman than looking up. The average woman only wears 2"-3" heels so the average man is still taller than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:43 PM
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They're capable, assuredly. It's not ideal though for health. I'm sorry you got called that when that's all you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:39 PM
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I just spent a couple of days with the guy I'm seeing, so today I am relaxing at home. I'll probably do some laundry and go swimming. Maybe watch some playthroughs of Diablo from some of my favorite streamers (I've already seen one start to finish but they can be fun depending on the clan members). Tomorrow I might relax at home some more but I'm considering picking up a gig downtown for a couple of hours. I'd get my steps in for an hour and then make some quick cash to basically just sit in a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:38 PM
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Yes, it wouldn't be a disqualifer if they were someone I was into otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:33 PM
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There is also that recent study which predicts that by 2030, 45% of women will be single and much of it voluntary Yes and this includes women who love to date men, just don't want to marry them or be in a long term formal relationship don't think most men signed up for that Most people eventually do want to pair up. But even if 99% of women decide tomorrow they wanted to be single forever that would be their choice, not a man's. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be single forever (or for a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:29 PM
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Same. I also like a slim guy with cut pecs and abs but a big Buddha belly and soft fat arms make me melt too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:19 PM
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Good suggestion!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:06 PM
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Also it's not decent to shame but it's perfectly reasonable to call someone out who claims to not have sexual experience if they're trying to make statements as though they had any experience with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:05 PM
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It's rare for people to 'slut shame' a man unless calling him out on hypocrisy but I'm sure it happens sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:04 PM
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In that case usually the Man is the one to get it done because it's a simpler procedure True. Much simpler, less pain, faster recovery time, fewer long term risks. I'm talking about what it signifies when only one person gets it done and it happens to be the woman. Yeah I see what you're getting at now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:03 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:02 PM
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You kinda started it by saying “hits you in the feels” You've made a mistake. Re-read the thread, a completely different poster put 'hits you in the feels'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:01 PM
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I'm completely okay with fascists dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:00 PM
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Not at all. Plenty of people with social status and a fancy professional title utterly fail at commanding a room.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:59 PM
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Currently dating 5'4" king. I'm 5'8". I live in a part of the country that tends to have slightly-shorter-than-average men as well so I see men shorter than me pretty regularly, but I'm also 4" taller than the average woman in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:58 PM
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No you don't. It doesn't even make sense grammatically. If you're trying to exclude trans women from your questions you should specify 'cis women' not 'female women' and usually this would only be relevant if your question was related to ovaries or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:55 PM
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Yeah, forgive doesn't mean you stay with the cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:54 PM
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Is there a reason you post 'female women' instead of just saying 'women'?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:54 PM
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And if you're in the US, women tend to mostly date (and on dating apps swipe right on) liberal and leftist men more than conservatives). But only by 15-25%.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:52 PM
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Meanwhile, plenty of guys I've met in eyeliner were much more rough-and-tumble and in many ways met a lot more definitions of traditional masculinity than the cargo-pant wearing gun nuts. But it depends. There are people who display traditional masculinity in action on different parts of the political spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:51 PM
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As a reminder, TikTok is an entertainment platform, many users like ms_petch are there to provoke you and get views and to entertain. She's not representative of an average person being genuine. She's here to get your engagement with her page. Please stop acting like TikTok, YouTube, IG have any relevance when discussing broad gender dynamics and general dating on a subreddit like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:49 PM
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It's irrelevant, they can keep being citizens they just don't get to say how the country is run. Yeah that idea is militant fascist bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:06 AM
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It usually refers to social or professional standing, regardless of their ability to 'command a room'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:05 AM
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But you think it's fine to decide the future of a country you're not willing to protect. I'd be willing to protect my country from invasion by a hostile force. But that's generally not what the US military does. If anything it shows my dedication to my country that I want it to be better, and I want fighting to be a noble last resort, not drone bombing preschools and hospitals or guarding opium crops or oil fields. A country is more than its military. Its people are more than just soldiers. Edit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:56 AM
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That's not true. Most men and women ultimately want to get married. A growing minority (but still a minority) don't have interest in marriage or have decided to never marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:02 AM
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The studies are done every year, usually in combination with the largest legitimate porn sites (Porn Hub). Also I'm not finding the 70% currently but I linked to the study back months ago in my post history here or in the OnlineDating sub (I think because it's 70% in the last year, and it's 60% percent in the last month). "One study found that 91.5% of men and 60.2% of women reported using porn in the past month. " This article has an overview of some of the studies but is sadly not linking to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:33 PM
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You shouldn't have to agree to work for an employer that does war crimes just to have a say in what goes on in the country you live in and with your tax dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:27 PM
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Heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:26 PM
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We have many solutions to preventing a demographic collapse that do not involve squirting out children just to feed them to the machines of factories or service work or expect them to be servants to the elderly. You could not pay me to take care of an elderly person in most cases, but if dishwashing paid well, protected workers, had benefits, and took place in an air conditioned room where you could listen to whatever music/content you wanted, I'd do it. But it would have to pay close to six fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:26 PM
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No status is something ascribed to you based on a 'position' even if you are shit at commanding a room.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:23 PM
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What does that have to do with status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:14 PM
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It's weird how many women genuinely think that just because most older men are in relationships that they are found attractive by their partners. They usually are at least at the start. Marriages of convenience or coercion exist but aren't common (though the latter still too common). Most relationships start with mutual lust/mutual attraction, often well before it even becomes a formal 'relationship'.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:13 PM
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There are homeless married couples and close-to-homeless married couples. True a marriage license does have a cost. Usually less than $100, but still unobtainable for some.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:12 PM
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Nah. It just narrows your pool. And if you apply it to men it would narrow the pool much more as women out perform men in spelling at every level (US). Keep in mind though, spelling is not a sign of intelligence. I do judge a profile if it looks like they didn't edit it at all though. I'm not incredibly draconian about it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:10 PM
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Yeah I'm definitely not going to be even tangentially involved in the armed services where my country is constantly committing war crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:05 PM
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So most men wouldn't be able to vote either. Also people over 35 won't be able to vote... wait you may be on to something. In actuality, most men don't serve (US). And as far as conscription the US hasn't had an actual draft in more than half a century.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:05 PM
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Actually a lot of Europeans are shocked workplaces aren't taking it more seriously and are asking what the fuck is wrong with the US. And I'm like... have you seen us?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:02 PM
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As far as what? Punching nazis? Captain America reached that height I think. Maybe Blues Bros too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:01 PM
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There's no threshold. It's on a spectrum. Bi just means you might be attracted to the right woman too. Keep in mind also that you might not run into another woman you know is bi to ask out nearly as often as you run into a straight guy. If there were as many bi women as straight men you might see more of a balance. For me personally, I don't look for a particular gender but date men more often because there are very few openly bi girls in my vicinity. I don't exclude them, I just don't have as m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:00 PM
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Or maybe because being a straight guy is a much larger portion of the population you run into than running into bi girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:58 PM
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There's still a lot of social pressure and stigma regarding a woman being with a woman. I wonder if once we've had gay rights and open gay acceptance in society for several hundred years if we'll see it more like 50/50 among bi girls. Keep in mind too, there are a LOT more straight guys in the world than bi girls or lesbians willing to date bi girls. We meet a lot more and a lot higher percentage of straight men then we do bi women. Perhaps if there were as many bi women in the world as straight…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:57 PM
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The majority for the US is preferring hair but trimmed/groomed. And it's actually pretty even on men preferring this look on women and women preferring this look on men. However still a sizeable chunk (more than 20% prefer full bush) and about 15% prefer fully shaved.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:54 PM
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You might not be your type. But you might be exactly her favorite type.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:52 PM
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That's not true. But even if it were, it would be better to choose nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:50 PM
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For days at a time I won't even have vibrate on but it depends. I usually turn off notifications on all my apps unless I have a delivery or am expecting something for a project or a family member is going through something dangerous like a surgery. And some places it will be silent no matter what (while I'm working on something, in a conference call/zoom meeting, or at a movie theater).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:45 PM
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Often people don't show their true colors until after.... For instance, in a lot of abusive marriages the wife or the husband or spouse whomever... doesn't show their abusive qualities until after the honeymoon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:40 PM
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Leagues are bullshit. Don't limit yourself to what you think your 'league' is. It's subjective but also it's just shooting yourself in the foot. Imagine not asking out someone who would potentially be love of your life or the lust of your night because you think their league is just "too darn high". Ask out who you want. Politely. Accept rejection gracefully and move on when it happens. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:37 PM
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I only get gel lacquer at a few salons that have a really high quality thin gel. It basically is just like wearing a mere two layers of 'typical' nail polish but very-strong and less markable/chippable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:35 PM
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Rollo is one of the saddest people to ever potentially hold a martini.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:34 PM
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It's true for some women and some men. Plenty of people get attached before sexual intimacy. And plenty of people don't become attached even after years together. It depends. It's why some people aren't healthy in casual relationships and some aren't healthy in formal/exclusive relationships, and some are healthy in both. There's a lot of variation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:33 PM
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