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What do you think "average" means?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 12:16 PM
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Lol except redpill is a change of behaviour from bluepill .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 05:24 PM
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yes sure and maybe, but when it comes to demanding changes to behaviour ... women almost always demand male to change their behaviours while women defend themselves and not wanting to change their behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:17 PM
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Your complaints are pointless, because the left and feminist are in control of the definitions, especially when it benefits them and push their agenda. i.e https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/sep/17/thousands-demand-oxford-dictionaries-eliminate-sexist-definitions Your arguments will be void when they change the definition of "predator" to fit whatever narriative they want to protray. Furthermore their tactics means that it's pointless to critize them from the "definition" angle, when the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:06 PM
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The problem of the left is that, in other for their theory to work (men vs women, rich vs poor, left vs right) they all have to hard divide people by their idenities, and there can't be overlaps in their idenities (poor male can't be victims)... so when "not all men" comes out... ask them how we can't use "all muslims", or "all communist" or even "all feminist".
/r/MensRights25/01/22 03:33 PM
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That's the problem here... FDS is pretty much on the level of TRP... but TRP is banned from reddit but FDS is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 10:41 PM
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Its like asking a company about the stragety of selling their products; the stragety depends on the product they are selling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 04:04 PM
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Neither. Modern women can increase their physical attractiveness via makeup, body shaping clothes, photoshop.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:29 PM
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and when women call immature men children, it's to all men lol and saying it's typical men behaviour... #yesallmen. Edit: and let's not forget about "All men are rapist."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:50 PM
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Sure, but when other subs call men for being a Man-child, or shunning them for not being mature when they don't conform to certain behaviours, they weren't shut down lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:46 PM
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Women wants powerful/dominant men who would provide and make concessions with them. The difference of treatment between their men to others vs them makes them feel elevated and "special". The problem here is that the current narrative is just to tell men to be nice without explaining this nuisance. RP tries to explained it in more clear terms and from the perspective of a male but were shut down for being misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:47 PM
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women has been complaining the lack of datable men on the market. Men who use Redpill from self improve will improve the quality of men that's available.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:06 PM
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Most guys don't know the correct way to even try. They "thirst" for female isn't as strong due to many reasons (porn, video games, female's own behavior, current social culture, etc) When guys are given "cheat codes" to females like TRP they were told its misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:27 PM
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what OP doesn't want to show you: etable 6: Trends in Sexual Frequency in the Last Year Among Men in the Total Age Range and by Age Group 2000/2002: Not at all 9.5% 2004/2006: Not at all 10.3% 2008/2010: Not at all 8.7% 2012/2014: Not at all 14.9% 2016/2018: Not at all 16.5% The sexless in male is rising from 9.5% in 2002 to 16.5% 2016. Also the US population is 329.5 Million. Using the sample size calculation https://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm in order to have a 0.25 Confidence Interval on…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 05:00 PM
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average means 50%, not sure what planet OP is from or who taught them math.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:43 PM
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For those that argued "not all men, but enough men" that's why men put out the message to not support these women. It's important that men send these messages across and this isn't about you. And you shouldn't be offended if you are not these ethots, and if you are not an ethot then this message isn't directed at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:04 PM
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No one is sexually attracted to money, accomplishments, or intelligence... but they are romantically attacted to these things. The take away that women doesn't want from this is that women can and do cheat on you even when men check all the boxes on money/accomplishment/intelligence, or that older women who are intelligent, have money, and accomplished a lot of things are not what men are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 10:28 PM
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Only spoke up when the guy's dead so he can't even defend himself. JFC have some respect ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 03:07 PM
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Sadly not all college/University Degree are equal. Women would find themselves in degrees that has less demand for jobs will just be saddled with student debt. It's not so much as women outpacing men, but slewing the top precentile men into being even more rare as men are having a more difficult time to enter into higher education.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:13 PM
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Women were never too physically attracted to most of their partner. Back in the days women have to rely on men economically and were pressured to marry for that aspect. With the Feminist right's moment, women can now relie on themselves to earn a living.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:33 AM
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Still would get into meaningful relationship and aims to get marry. You just have to vet very very carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:20 PM
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I don't think women's beauty standard is toxic. I'll rather they have standards then becoming a 300 pound landwhale. There's nothing wrong with women seeking only top tier men as qualified partner as it's their biological imperiative. The problem here is that feminist often ask men to solve their problems, and doesn't like the solution that men presented in the highlighted problem. For this particular case, men is learning to see beyond the makeup and the cosmetic surgeory and is vetting their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 02:21 PM
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Women are different. Yet when men ask, women gives the most generic advise. think emoji
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:23 PM
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Its not hard to tell if someone doesn't like you. At some point the courtship eitial became a bargining at some point as each person wants to maximize what they get but commit as little as possible.. i.e. not showing their hand. Also most people can be lukewarm... they might like some of what they see, but want to see if there's more or if other options are available before they commit. So in short... yes because human relationship are complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 02:57 PM
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It's bad to generalized one gender generalize one gender
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:04 PM
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Does not apply to trans . Lesbiens not taking trans and accepting them as real women is considered tranphobic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:46 AM
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Except RP say its okay for men to not go after women as well. They let male "see the truth" of male's situation in society and let them decided what to do. i.e. Can you say the same about bluepill?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:16 PM
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There are many, including MGTOW. Except ofcourse women hates MGTOW and consider not going the same "inconducive to stability, optimal productivity, or, I would argue, long-term happiness. These feelings and sensations can be best described as drama" as a men is considered mysgonist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:28 PM
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"Split chores" - I mean if you are single you are doing 100% of thr chores ... hmm....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:56 AM
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You fail to understand the goal of women in dating and relationship, and that's for them to find a provider in both emotionally and financially. Women actively validating men who tries to improve will not help them reach that goal. That's why the manosphere keeps telling us that women wants a finished product.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:28 AM
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Lol this is where the fail is : "4) I say "oh so women cook more than men" which proves my assertion most women know how to cook 5) " Just because women cooks more then men doesn't mean that most women knows how to cook. it's like saying that you are smarter then a 4 year old, but that doesn't mean you are smart Learn to logic and think before you embarrass yourself with your post and turn yourself into a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:00 PM
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Your own word "So we cook MORE than men. Gotcha" https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/osgr4j/women_want_to_be_valued_for_more_than_sex_but/h6qs3y1/ Even after editing it you still try to compare it to men lol what a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:48 PM
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The conversation was about women cooking less, not women cooking more or less then men lol. Nice try thou.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:43 PM
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So moving goal post, gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:41 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/19/why-so-many-millennial-men-are-cooking/ "By contrast, 70 percent of women cook these days, a bump from the 67 percent that cooked two decades ago but a definite decline from the 88 percent of women who cooked 40 years ago. And they're spending 71 minutes a day cooking, also a small increase from 20 years ago but less than the 101 minutes they spent 40 years ago."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:31 PM
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We need that minions Gru presentation meme pronto: Everyone should learn how to cook. Most american women doesn't know how to cook. Most american women doesn't know how to cook. Sad face
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:24 PM
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I hear a lot of women complain about men nowadays. They say they are too dorky, too boring, too weak, too effeminate, too hedonistic, too lazy, too poor, too manipulative, too cheap, etc.... But apparently trying to break out of this is labelled as "toxic masculinity"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:25 PM
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People opting for agenda that benefits themselves. News at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:04 PM
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What's considered "Holding men back"? and holding men back from what? That's why MGTOW is great. If you chose to play video games in your spare time instead of chasing women, and if that person isn't complaining about the lack of women in their lives, then that's not a bad thing according to MGTOW. At the end of the day men should have the ultimate decision to do what he wants to do in life, and if that doesn't involve women or contributing to society at large, that should be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:34 PM
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Counter-point for female and female toxicity, but ofcourse when female or feminist shows their toxic trade, they blame it on internal misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:34 PM
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Should use all channels to get your game in. No one told you to use either social circles or OLD exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:39 PM
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Everyone is trying to pull a catch22 on the other team in this sub, but it's only a catch 22 inside their head. Also bluepill apparently are using red flairs now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:37 PM
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"If you don't get what i'm saying, you aren't smart enough" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 01:05 AM
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every women and every men would have complained about certain aspects of the dating scene, so I fail to see what's the point of your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:50 AM
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So are you shaming men who are seeking help to change their lives for the better?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 01:02 PM
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Just find a study here that debunks your premise: https://news.iu.edu/stories/2020/06/iub/releases/15-sexual-inactivity-young-men-united-states-no-sex-debby-herbenick.html
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 04:18 PM
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I'm addressing the facts and underlying logic in your post. If the facts and logic that supports your opinion isn't correct, chances are you'll have an incorrect opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 04:11 PM
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Almost there - You also need to increase your own qualification if you want to actually get the people who'll meet your standards. There's nothing worse them demanding people to meet your standards when you have zero leverage, demands for things like a Karen when your got nothing to offer and is meeting none of the things on the other person's checklist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 04:04 PM
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I guarantee that I could take your average Instagram model that men are following around like a lost puppy and make her look like Jane average or even below Jane average standards. That candid, carefree shot at the park or the beach you’re jerking off to as a man that was 5 outfit changes and 100 pictures with picking the best one. 1) doesn't take much effort to follow and like an Instagram model. its just a few button pressing on your phone to be precise 2) Those Instagram models ARE average Ja…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 06:26 PM
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Would you like to be know as a productive employee? Would you also like to have an easy job with good pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 02:24 PM
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I agree with OP here, so can we get the feminist and the FDS off our backs?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:34 PM
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The thing is, one does not change people's mindset by being mean to them. Incel's mindset is unhealthy and shaming them and shutting them down doesn't stop the idea of incel, but rather fuel them.
/r/MGTOW210/03/21 09:08 PM
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There is no gender strategy and people should just work on themselves & understand their value. Perfectly fine answer, but that's a big ask for today's generation. One would also need to experience what's out there and compare it to themselves. Also people's needs and requirement changes. i.e. girls wanted to date around in the 20s wanted to settle down later in their lives but having history catch up to them or realized they've missed opportunities. I definitely do not want to shame them, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:06 PM
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Only the well off gets married and the rich will be afford to have kids. The whole thing is really a population control and only the smart ones who figured that its a game of nash equilibrium will get their genes passed on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 04:07 AM
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Lol it's like saying only the ultra rich gets scammed out of their money. Meanwhile i'm getting robo calls from the "legal department of revenue canada" and some ppl speaking in mandarin daily. The new reality is that, with the availability of tinder and other online dating apps, all sorts of scammers are putting themselves out there and trying their scam en mass. I had a match where some girl claim she got inside info on bitcoin and tell me to open a bitcoin acct and send me a link. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 12:14 PM
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The shotgun method... if you asked 1000 girls to have sex with you, one of them will say yes. If they asked 10,000 girls they'll have an n count of 10. They also might lower their standard. They'll have sex with anyone while other have a threashold on who they'll have sex with. Finally if you do things 10,000 times. Chances are they'll have some level of experties
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 12:41 AM
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Both genders were never taught how to attract the opposite gender. The problem is only more obvioud for male because they are the ones who are required to chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:42 AM
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Women have more freedom than they’ve ever had in history, but they still choose to sell their bodies for income More freedom just means more options. It doesn't mean they'll always choose the best options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:02 PM
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A woman should be virgin or low n-count but you don't want to wait for sex, it is very unattractive and even detrimental to a woman's worth if she has sex with a lot of men, but there's not the same standard for men, You'll be surprised, but it is the same standard for men. Long Lasting couple generally match each other's N-Count and I have someone asked me about my N-count and ensuring that I didn't play around before I matched with her. She also states that her N-count and relationship count i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:26 AM
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Well there are all kinds of people in this world, but they are nowhere near the top comment so I'll say that's not the majority of the sub. Also can't help but to notice that most of the comments you linked are from the OP himself. Again it's just today's digital world where no one is immune to criticism... again referencing twitter and other subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 07:08 PM
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You don’t know this women, we don’t know what she looks like, nor did she list a bunch demands she has for men. She simply expresses that she was depressed due to loneliness and had thoughts about self harm. This is not the first time I’ve seen WAATGHG do this. I agree, with that being said maybe you should check the comments that was in the thread before you post. People are just telling her to "get a cat" being the top comment. If you are going into specifics about this post can you please poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 06:56 PM
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The angle from subs like WAATGM is women who've hit the wall, and/or any combination of single parents/overweight/High N-count who demands high quality men to have relationship with them. with Relationship that's often predatory to the male and demands a lot from the male side. I’ve only seen women become unsympathetic if the guy in question is misogynistic and the op does not at anytime blame men or say anything misandrists. The problem here is that any criticism of female's behavior can be see…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 06:30 PM
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The best way to protect and strengthen yourself against emotional pain is not to pretend you can vet out all risks and harm, but actually to take risks and endure them, and inure yourself to the discomfort, becoming stronger in the process. Horrible advice - you marry an abuser and you'll physically take punches and slaps to the face daily. It might build up your pain threshold and reflexes thou. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 04:53 PM
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1.)Just how successful are your friends In dating? Most of my friends are already married. I know one guy who's divorced, and another who is single. Not sure if he wants to date. Both are considered low income earners and not having the best quality of life, but they can support their own lifestyle, have hobbies, and not seemingly in debt. Another female friend have been engaged with a guy in Texas for like 8 years and I have heard nothing from the guy's side for the last 4 years. 2.) If you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 04:37 PM
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American female is horrifically overweight (5'4 / 171lbs). Yikes. This to me speaks more about the American obesity problem in general then anything... and for both male and female. A healthy person should pair up with other healthy person for the lifestyle fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 07:22 PM
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I noticed a lot of men can’t stand to be alone. Not only that but they’re desperate to get married and start a family. They don’t cultivate relationships outside of dating which leads them to be socially inept and needy when they do interact with other people. I think the subset of men that fits your description is rather small, at least in view of the population of men at large. They also try to put the woman’s needs first whereas women in similar situations would ghost or flake on them. They t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:38 PM
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You see that once its socially acceptable (and financially viable) for people to get divorced, those people who felt stuck in a marriage start getting divorced as it was in the previous generation. I think it's smart to marry early, because you have more options and its easier to get pregnant. That's in consideration that you found the right one that you've content to be with for the rest of your lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 01:56 AM
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Lol Not sure what you mean. People do compromise, but it's like one of the thing both sides agreed on is that men are they gatekeeper of commitment, while women are the gatekeeper of sex. Just like women have hard lines on certain issues about sex, male should have hard lines on certain issues about relationship. So if we are agreeing, not sure what your comment was all about. If you’re older or have a high N count or kids, there might be a case but that doesn’t mean your ideal isn’t out there, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 11:50 PM
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sure there isn't enough standards for men when it comes to getting nut off, but the complain is that men are too picky when it comes to relationship (commitment). N-count, single mothers, and older women comes into mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 11:19 PM
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Sure, except women's idea of slut shaming is not marrying sluts and that's a entirely different topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 11:33 AM
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I consider it a solution for the world's over population. It only makes sense that in an overpopulated world with resources being more scarced... those with better genes are the one who'll get to reproduce. The effects of men that can't get laid or women that can't secure a man is just the side effects of themselves not suitable to carry on their genes in this world and part of natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 04:59 AM
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Fair enough. But the 'I'm busy' white lie is almost a cliche for a reason. If a woman deploys it, and the man doesn't take the hint, only a foolish woman doubles down and says something like 'I'm busy next week, too.' Emphasis mine again why there's should be a place for male to learn to read women, and that's RP. Usually she then moves on to 'I don't think we are right for each other' or 'this won't work'. None of the other white lies you suggested are bad, IMO. and I'm saying that only FA and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:01 PM
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But I have never heard guys complaining that women aren't brutal enough when they turn us down? Not brutal, but honest. A lot of those FA or Incel types have complaints about women letting them down easy with stuff like "We should be friends and we don't want to ruin this friendship", "You are a nice guy but...", and the classic "it's not you, its me.", while they preferer the honest truth like the fact that he's ugly, fat, not rich or tall enough, or lack social proofing. Maybe a few truly no-s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 05:57 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with what you've said. I'm just asking why it doesn't work when the genders are reversed? Perhaps you would like to read what ppl are saying before responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 02:02 PM
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As a guy who just got ghosted right before christmas with no explaination, I can understand this. I don't think its fair, but i don't believe fairness should or does exist in the first place. The problem here is that female and feminist expected things to be "fair" when it favourd them, but create exceptions on why it shouldn't when it requires concession on their end.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 10:11 AM
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The person they’re interacting with. and the gender of that other person if it's a heterosexual male that's initiating? You don’t determine if you’re funny to others. The men not laughing or laughing at your joke do. Sure, but again the issue here is who sets the bar, and clearly if the female is the one that's being approached, they are the one that determine if it's funny or charming. I'm not even sure why you are arguing against this fact when your words are even supporting what I'm saying lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:57 PM
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who determines when they are offensive/creepy vs when they are charming lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:47 PM
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We don’t have dating/relationship advantages Which gender usually pay for dates and initiate and setup dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:05 PM
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so at the end of the day it's basically "women set the standards". I'm find with this, except that's what the title should be instead of "Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.", and that women just wants everything and the best of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 05:10 PM
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Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal. except we were told that's not the case by females that are against the PUA. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 05:03 PM
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I agree with most of the above. Men are still out here thinking they have some inherent value to women that’s their problem. Most of y’all don’t so you need to have influence, status, power money something I believe most men don't have the believe that they have inherent value, hense they are working on themselves and seeks self improvement. I believe it's women that believe that they have inherent value, given the current social narrative and female being the protected gender in today's society…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 03:26 PM
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It's not possible under the current economic situation to have a sole breadwinner in a household. Even if that individual is making significantly more then the average, the quality of life for the family would still be decreased due to potential income lost if both spouse works. Also work-culture is part of our daily lives now and there isn't much to be done outside of work (Laundry/cooking/cleaning are way easier and less time consuming then previous generations, due to the advent of technology…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 10:37 PM
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Sex is only a 5 minute thing, tops. If there's nothing else that women can attract a man except for sex, men will use them only for that. Small wonder why women found themselves being pumped-and-dumped after they were used for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:15 PM
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Lol no I won't suggest r/FeMRADebates right now. It's currently underseiged by feminist trolling the sub and left-leaning mods enabling them and exempting them from certain rules of that sub. Also note that sub doesn't have a single MRA-leaning mod.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:13 PM
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But then men complain that it's not fair for a woman who put out early before to ever change her behavior. Women have said a lot about men too, but men just act and let the results speaks for itself. Other then that I agree with your comment, and do remember the sexual liberation is a left leaning feminist movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 06:51 PM
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A system where merit is placed before gender would be a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 03:46 AM
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You can have a virgin girl, but most likely she is either religious, has a low libido or has emotional baggage or all three. You can have a girl who knows how to pleasure you, and has a high libido. But chances are she has pleasured before. Pick your poison. You have person A who have a history and perceived notion of sex, and those ideas are not jointly created with you. You have Person B, who is a more of a blank slate so whatever experience you have with her, she won't have any previous exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 06:20 PM
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This chain of discussion is about the risk and reward of male getting into marriage and how happy they are depending on their choices. Yes... women take a bigger financial hit because usually women marry up, and the reason why divorce court usually reward alimony to women and why male have to pay child support.... so women are compensated in that regard.... and one of the reason why the court why the court reward child custody to women... cuz male are supposed to put their career first and it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 11:00 AM
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You seem to forget that in a divorce most often then not men plays the alimony, child support, loses their home and less likely to be award custody of their child. Men have more to lose in a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 06:11 AM
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Agreed. Biology doesn't say that you "should" reproduce and spread your genes. Biology just says that if you don't pass your genes, your lines of genetics will decrease in the human gene pool. It goes more in line with Eugenics... for example if White people just stop reproducing, there will be no more white people on this earth in a few generation. Most of the idea about genes stems from the book "The Selfish Gene" I agree with the conclusion and mainly that it's between you and your potential …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 04:41 PM
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Because TRP is for men rather then for women. It's the reverse from society who support single mothers and "empowered" women who chooses career over marriage, and women who desire to live a lifestyle similar to "sex in the city" If anything, stats show that men gain more health-related benefits from marriage than women. Except again, the study doesn't show the risk of the average men going into marriage, which is divorce. (and alimony, child support, child custody, losing your house, but those a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 01:34 PM
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I think the source of discontent with many low smv men who swarm these manosphere sites is they are both envious of high smv men In regards to Incel and Blackpill, yes. No in regards to MGTOW, MRA, or PUA. MGTOW seeks to exit the system, while PUA's goal is to emulate high value men. same time envious of their female counterparts, low smv women, for having an easier attracting a high smv partner of the opposite sex. Disagree. That's never part of the picture. Low SMV women are invisible to men s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:57 PM
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There's a misunderstand due to semantics here. RP don't react negatively to men who chooses to be stepfathers. RP just discourage men to take on the role as stepfathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:43 PM
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I'm a male and i have female friends. I fail to see why my females friends won't befriend me just because i'm male?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 11:04 AM
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All I'll say that is that beauty is subjective. Average: Brie Larson Beautiful: Romee Strijd or pick any famous model out there, or maybe actresses like Gal Gadot or Alexandra Daddario I think here's the lies the problem of people in the 21st centaury. What you've listed as Average would be considered as above average for me. What I'll considered average is the average girl you see on the street. The problem here is that we've been exposed to media so much that even the average actress is consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 12:31 AM
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Agreed. No amount of makeup can cure the obesity pandemic that's currently in the North American Culture. That girl is neither a 1 or an 8? and you are saying I was overrating women lol? I'll like to see pics of what you'll considered an average woman and of a truly beautiful one for reference lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 12:11 AM
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I'll do you one better and post this video instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mu_betPexI Btw the girl in question is both a 1 and an 8, and you'll get to see why.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:44 PM
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What's wrong with the dictionary and the broad definition: "the action of marrying or forming a sexual relationship with a person of a superior sociological or educational background." For instance, I like a guy who is facially more attractive than me, which is classic hypergamy. But he is also shorter than me by a few feet. We both have jobs (so same SES) and the same sense of humor. Would this be hypergamy? Half hypergamy? Depends on how much you think height is a factor. The problem here is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:40 PM
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Where did you get that from the movie. The last scene from the movie is where he went for a job interview in an architecture firm and met Autumn as they both interview for the same job.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 01:22 PM
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500 Days of Summer is actually one of my Fav film and there's a lot of redpill truth in it, and by redpill... I mean that most men like Tom have this strange ideas about women and relationship in general (which was really the bluepill in a nutshell). Tom equate relationship with Sex, and assume Summer wanted a relationship, when all Summer wanted was a fling. From a women's perspective it's always nice to be desired and have a little fun, but when it comes to contribution from her end, they'll a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:45 AM
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It's basically the sum of most discussion in PPD: why does certain strategies works, but other experienced failures... cuz It works for some men. No one claims OLD works for every men, just like joining a social circle doesn't work for every men. Having more options overall increase the success for the average men. A guy struggling with dating is not about him not being a catch is mainly him not being lucky. Online and approaching if they worked would give men the abundance they need. that's bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:15 PM
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If OLD doesn't work, why are women joining these sites in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 11:10 AM
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Why do some beautiful women become sex workers instead of marrying a rich provider? because it's really all just makeup, plastic surgery, and boob jobs. These things skewed the looks of an average female in society, so your idea of "beautiful women" is really average to below average, especially once they removed their makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 12:25 AM
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There's an expression for the Chinese call "dark face" That's where you gave a stern look of displeasure. In my example I was out with my parents when the waiter was rude, and my parents display the "dark face" and then afterwards we talked about how its important to show that to people, or else they'll just step over you, eventhought usually in the Chinese culture people tried to be polite to each other. This relates to the topic at hand here, and I think men should be emotionally expressive...…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 02:40 AM
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I know plenty of amazing dudes who can not see the obvious attraction women are throwing at them. I agree it's obvious, but our culture hasn't supported men in developing the skills to see it. Perhaps one of the reason for this is because male and female communicates differently, and the genders are only familiar with showing signs of attractions that's from their own gender? This is kinda like the dilemma of requiring job experience to get a job. A person have to experience positive outcome aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 01:15 AM
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Men do you feel you have a duty, perhaps this is honor, towards women? Feminist have done well to wash away any idea of that both in terms of their #neednomen, and they adamant idea of gender equality.... so if females don't have a duty toward men, then it is by the very definition of equality that men shouldn't care about women. What about a duty for children? Say to make sure children have enough to not go hungry or to not be cold at night? Not in that sense to a random child, but I gave child…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 02:49 AM
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This statistics have been bought up before in this sub. The biggest problem here is that all three articles lump divorced men along with single men, and we can all agreed that divorced men are living very miserable lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 03:41 PM
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The problem is that our social circle shrinks as we reached 30. There's forced social interaction in school and colleges, and the couples you know probably pair bonded together during that time. A huge part of this is also the change in social culture, where its no longer acceptable for co-workers to have that kind of relationship with each other. It is a good thing that HR has sexual harassment policy, however that's just one of the side effects of #metoo, and that men are scared or advised not…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 04:04 PM
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When i was overweight, girls clearly wasn't interested in me and was laughing behind their backs when i tried to approach them. Now that i'm in shape, girls was starting to notice and I feel successful and more confident, not just in dating but in other parts of my life. I believe in gender equality so I think the social standards of apperance should also apply to other genders. To further that point... keeping in shape in is a sign of self control and discipline that is so rare in the modern er…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:00 AM
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Or maybe they tried everything else and finally found something that works... Also Hilarious meta now. Men should start a Q4Men: Why do you believe that women all became cat ladies after they hit the wall, and ofcourse... because it's a Q4Men, only men are allowed to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:37 AM
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Multiple studies and article accepts the facts that the genders communicate differently: http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jhss/papers/Vol2-issue1/D0211827.pdf?id=5636 https://scholarship.claremont.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1521&context=cmc_theses https://online.pointpark.edu/public-relations-and-advertising/gender-differences-communication-styles/ https://psychcentral.com/blog/6-ways-men-and-women-communicate-differently/ The problem here is that the current feminist narrative wants to pus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 05:46 PM
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Disagree... and that's the inherit problem between the right and the left ideology. The left believe that people's wants and desires can be changed, and does so via social movements. In this case, they believe that they can make women want lesser men by putting all men down. Surely if all men sucks, women have no choice by to just choose any men. What they seem to forget is that women can just choose no man at all if they all suck. Hence the "Need no men" mentality from women, and in some degree…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 02:22 PM
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I think there's a difference here: It's more like "there's a common belief that women prefer men that doesn't treat women well (aka not worshipping women, giving them resources then a beta male would have)" and it makes sense: An alpha male doesn't need to provide the same level of effort then the beta male to net the same girl. An alpha male could also get away with a lot more then a beta male giving the same situation. So a beta male that treats women badly and abuse women still won't attract …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 02:44 PM
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In places like France, Israel, and Germany, Private DNA test (paternity test) are illegal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_paternity_testing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 03:12 PM
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Hmmm I’ve seen ALOT of dudes here complain specifically about women’s hypergamy as being the problem in Western culture. A lot of people are talking about Western culture allowing for hypergamy to exist and be blatantly on display. Basically if hypergamy is basic human nature (like pissing everywhere)... civilized society institute rules for us to only take a piss in a washroom for sanitary and many different reasons (Think Traditionalism), but now society is telling everyone it's okay to piss a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 07:36 PM
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My question here is... how does a 89 year old with dementia have the mental state to sign a marriage contract. I think the marriage can easily be voided with one party not having sufficient mental capacity to understand what he's signing into.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 03:45 PM
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From a guy's perspective, they don't care if guys are hypergamous. They are dating women not men. Also I'll date a girl who looks like Megan fox rather then Megan fox. Fame has its own baggage. Also op doesn't understand that a guy don't usually date women for their fame and wealth. Edit: So why do people keep complaining about women being hypergamous? People are not complaining that women are hypergamous. A complaint means they want it changed, and we all know its women's nature to be hypergamo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 10:43 AM
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That was not the full extent of your question and we both know what your veil-thin question was trying to imply. I'm also answer your questions directly in each part. I'm not sure why you are unhappy with the simple fact that RP doesn't aim to change women, and if you are upset about how men are trying to change women by simping... you should take your frustration on bp. Also this is PPD... so ofcourse the pills have to be psrt of the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 11:30 AM
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and thru TRP they learn they cannot change women no matter what they did, and they know women's nature. So let's begin by answering the question you pose: How many of you wound up in the manosphere for similar reasons, because you believed that life was this simple: if I am good to her, she will automatically be good to me, even if she’s a shitty person? And when it didn’t play out that way you got hurt and frustrated and wanted answers? None. Men who see RP and stumble into the manosphere was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 03:28 AM
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I don't think OP understands RP. RP doesn't aim to change women; It aims for men to change themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 03:19 AM
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First. It's not so much as "work is not a choice for most women". It's "women have more of a chance of being a SAHM more then a guy being a Stay at home dad." Second, props for your grandmother to be a tailor and housework is much harder before modern day where there's household appliances. However that also applies to any labor that men have to do for a living as well. It's always a given that technology makes peoples lives easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 01:55 AM
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Astronauts meme : wait men still have to chase women in this day and age? Always have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:35 PM
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Traditionalism is still in play here and Korea is still a developing country and an emerging markets according to its economics definition. Just because it makes fancy electronics, have its own Hip hop band, and is democratic doesn't mean women rights and its humans right are advanced. Edit: This may be the case, although South Korea until very recently had an issue with sex selective abortion and I wouldn't call them a 'primitive' society. I hope you do understand what the word "more" means, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 03:59 PM
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So I am curious as to what do you guys think, do you think the prevalence of sex selective abortion contradicts the redpill idea that its mainly men who are viewed as disposable? Or do you think because its happening mainly in non western countries it doesn't count because the redpill is a western philosophy? I think this was in the OP, and I'm only strictly responding to the question posed in the OP. I don't think that was my sisters argument, she said mainly brought it up to show women are dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 03:45 PM
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You are talking about two different societies here. Middle east, India, and China are still developing countries where a large portion of the job market is manual labor (oil fields, farming without heavy machinery, factory jobs, etc.) These societies are also less developed in terms of human rights and laws, and are more rooted in traditionalism. Saying men in the western world is not disposable by raising examples in non-western society is kind of a misleading argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 03:37 PM
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Here's the part that I don't understand. Did your view changed already from when you Posted your OP? Do you still believe that "We should view men who pump and dump and women who finesse men for money the same way"... despite the fact that most of society and any sane person does already "view men who pump and dump and women who finesse men for money the same way" and basically say they are Low value and non-datable?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 01:00 AM
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I personally find both immoral but I have been told so many times that it is okay for men to manipulate women into sex by pretending to be interested in them. If this is really okay to do then I don't see why I shouldn't be able to spin the same lies to get men to give me money and gifts without having long term interest in them. It's literally the same thing. The same problems likes in both scenario: passable deniability. A guy could say he was genuinely interested in the girl until he had sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 12:49 AM
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At least this is the impression that they give me. It makes me wonder if there is anything you do for yourself that is JUST for yourself. And not for women. Some hobbies - cooking (not sure how women feels about men cooking) - TCG (definitely not. It's s sausage fest) - Gaming (also a hard no) - Guitar (Can't attest. Just started this during COVID) Education - Online learning course, reading non-fiction, Youtube binging on History Channels, my CFA charter designation. I double anything here woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 03:11 PM
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Racking up a high n-count doesn’t mean they’re more likely to cheat. They just compartmentalize casual sex women and wife material and appreciate them both the same. And “pre-selection” makes it Good Actually. Science disagree with you https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-road-to-infidelity-passes-through-multiple-sexual-partners Among the participants, 16% of married adults had committed sexual infidelity at least once in their current marriage (the study did not measure infidelities that occurred in…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 03:33 PM
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Yes men are insecure. Sure. Men are definitely insecure when it comes to risk of STD, having their partner having more difficulties giving actual birth when she might have undergone an abortion, having their partner's sexual history and ex caught up to her, etc. Post like these does nothing to make the male less insecure and does nothing to alleviate these risk for selecting a women with high N-count, and instead just keep strawmening men for not selecting high N-count women because the women mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:51 PM
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The bluepill, though, seems to only exist as a mirror of the red pill. Is that not enough for a definition of Bluepill? Mind you thou at one point his this sub, BP used that as a definition to defend itself from any justification by stating that BP doesn't need to provide any answers or alternative views to how dating works... it just needs to say that RP strategies doesn't work. Is a "bluepilled" person just someone who does not agree with the red pill ideology, therefore encompassing all ideol…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:40 PM
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perhaps science has an answer: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/03/040316072953.htm https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2739403/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:36 PM
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and there lies the problem: The mindset is actually not wrong: Instead of marrying someone who finance and status, achieve them yourself. However being a doctor doesn't actually make you more datable in the eyes of men. In fact it might shrink your pool of datable men. People value a partner who would be able to spend time with them, and a doctor might have less time or a more erratic work schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:37 PM
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Why should I when prove and evidence improve the discussion? and again Lauren Chen did criticize FDS, but show me where she criticized FDS because it doesn't help men? Her video is saying that FDS is terrible advice... for women. Are you betting on the fact that I didn't watch a 19 minute video or something? The closest thing you got here is around 5:38 where she said that a common trait for these bad strategies is that people forgot the other person is ... actually a person with feelings and wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 04:19 PM
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I read a lot of men and female you-tubers bashing FDS and saying “it’s a totally lopsided strategy that is meant to benefit women completely and do nothing to help men.” Strawman after strawman. FDS is only a small corner of reddit. Show me which youtuber over 250k subs talks about FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 03:57 PM
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it kinda depends, but it's more like having a high N-count is just a symptom of many other problems. For example chances are if you are overweight, you could have diabetes, eating disorder, heart problems, and as you get older your knees won't be able to support your body's weight... sure you can be overweight and not have these problems and they are all genetics... but the odds are pretty bad that you'll have these listed health issues. So I'll say a high N-count is a huge red flag that most me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 04:14 AM
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I just drove by to make a purple point about how TRP "dating strategy" is totally fine for certain demographics, but not others. I'm not here to develop a "male dating strategy checklist". I'm not sure where you are getting this from? OP is asking for a "real" qualitative of FDS for men. Can you quote or say how you arrived at the idea that "TRP "dating strategy" is totally fine for certain demographics, but not others. " Not to say if you are incorrect or anything, and also no one asked you to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 04:05 AM
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If she thinks having sex with her husband to make him happy is antiwomen, then she's low value. disagree. sex is part of a healthy relationship for a couple. She puts in equal or greater effort. Makes her partner feel special for being with her, not that its his honor to be in her presence. I think i need to clarify what I'm saying here, and that is "enjoy making her husband or partner happy in life" can change or get stale after a relationship, and also if you read the 5 love languages, differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 02:33 AM
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Agree with the premise that men should care about Women's salary and finances, but for different reasons. 1) In the date and age single income can hardly afford to raise a family. Both partners have to pit in financially, and both partner have to do their share outside of work as well. 2) The risk of getting divorced raped is pretty high, and the reason why divorce rape isn't so prevalent is that most men aren't rich and they marry women of just slightly lower or equal income and social status. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 02:23 AM
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Sure but that's a check list isn't it then? I did agree with you that compatible personality mores, and libido is part of the check list. What I'm saying is that it's not the complete and full checklist. Guys do make the mistake of being with an attractive women with an awful personality and a messed-up life like having kids, but guys also would never date someone he don't consider attractive, even if they have compatible personal, mores, libido, or any other things that BP would consider a high…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 02:06 AM
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I agree that's one of the key properties of a High value female, but how does one qualify that before they are even dating or marriage (during the selection process?) You know a lot of people got married into dead bed rooms right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 02:04 AM
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as a male, i would say that "compatible personality, mores, libido" are certain characters I would look for in an attractive women with no red flags, and yes BP would consider these as positive characteristics. I would also say that an 400 lb older women with kids, no money, but having compatible personal, mores, and libido would not be considered to be a "high value female" by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 10:31 PM
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But I have no intentions of writing up a male dating strategy lol. I'm not sure why you would even suggest something like that. I'm just asking simple question about what's your definition of a "high value female" and I'm disappointed that you can't even respond when someone ask you a direction question in a debate sub lol. Also what's LDAR?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 09:32 PM
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what's your definition of a "high value female"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 07:03 PM
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Also just had my cup of coffee for the day and would like to add a few things: Like come on, unless you're extremely poor, even if you live alone it'd be in your best interests to sit your arse in something other than a crappy camping chair? A person's best interest is for themselves to dictate and not from strangers from the other side of the computer screen lol. Of course, this response will rile certain men because it doesn't fit into the extremely limited, sexist narrative they have in their…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 01:35 PM
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did you not realized the contradiction in your post. You said loner, but the very next sentence you think these loners will have friends and they'll come over lol. The thread is fill of veil-thin remarks about the person not having any friends lol, so we might as well just get to the point. Also I can actually relate to said picture. I was living the same minimalist lifestyle abroad in the last year of University. There was literally cooking and eating utensils, a desk, a computer, a mattress, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 12:31 PM
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As for Diogenes, he would have found living in a modern apartment with a TV and chair WILDLY too luxurious. He literally lived in filth on the street like a dog. And, shockingly, most people did not like to hang around Diogenes. And his philosophy, while studied today, doesn't really have adherents. You are more then welcome to your opinion regarding Diogenes but his quotes survived to the modern day, and yes most people didn't like hanging around Diogenes, but Alexandra the Great did have that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 12:23 PM
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Sure the men you know would definately have x,y,z and they should have at least a sofa, chair, etc... but that's the exact point that OP is saying... these things are expectations of how a male should live from society and you've just proved OP's point. So what if a guy doesn't have anything in his room besides a play station? And so what if he doesn't have tables or chairs.. or even friends? He choose this lifestyle and his lifestyle isn't for you to judge. I remember a famous greek philosopher…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 11:49 AM
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The discussion on this sub gets so heated from time to time and there's so much vitriol and hatred thrown between men and women. Which is incredibly ironic as this sub discusses the dynamic between men and women and the attraction they have towards each other as straight people. Most often then not, a lot of people who use emotional reasoning confuse criticism with hate. For example when men say women have certain mating behaviors, it doesn't mean they hate them at all. This also goes with stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 02:36 AM
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Honest take thou: You are right, only people marrying someone with huge wealth disparity should be worried prenup, alimony, and such. The poor men have nothing to lose, their problem is that women won't married them. In the case where men knock up a girl, his worry is to be able to pay child support, or gets locked up in jail. See that's why one shouldn't generalized men. i’m not disagreeing with you about generalizations, but at the same time i don’t think it’s wrong to make them when they happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 07:03 PM
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you’re right when you say men aren’t a monolith, but we’re not here to talk about what each individual man is doing & how he should handle things. we’re talking about men as a whole, just as we talk about women as a whole. of course you should consider for exceptions, but they’re not the rule. Except we shouldn't generalize the gender, and that the only conclusion about certain gender as a whole is that people are different. Otherwise every time a negative trait comes up about a women it'll dege…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 06:51 PM
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You are more then welcome to, and I do agree that sometimes it is stated as such both here and on RP subs. However its more worthwhile to discuss the true reason why men are anxious about marriage and prenups. Next time when it's bought up, I'll be sure to state the exact reason why men are anxious about prenups because how bias the family courts are, how duress can be loosely interpreted, how the law can throw up prenups because it included preconditions about child support, or whenever the cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 06:45 PM
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i wouldn’t object you saying “i think i should be worried” or “in my opinion, i am & should be worried.” that’s your opinion, you’re entitled to that. Perfect. Glad we are on the same page. my opinion wasn’t even directed towards you as an individual, but rather men (who want to get married, i should say) as a demographic. Except I didn't say anything about men as a demographics. I'm saying that I should be worried lol. Not interested in getting Gaslighted. & just to quote you, since you want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 06:37 PM
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Nah I'm just upset you debunked a strawmen that you built.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 06:35 PM
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telling you that i don’t think men should worry about it too much doesn’t mean i’m saying you’re not allowed to worry. saying “i think men don’t have to worry” is not saying “you are not allowed to worry.” again you’re taking it personal & i’m starting to wonder what you have to gain from this. do you enjoy being a victim that much? In that case, you'll find no objection if I say "I think I should be worried" or "In my opinion, I am and should be worried." right? funny now that you realize you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 06:23 PM
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Last words: It's a free country, but apparently I'm told that I don't have the freedom to worry. lol you very much took it personally, seeing as i gave an opinion on men as a demographic & you started getting bothered about me saying they shouldn’t worry as if i told you specifically not to worry. You keep saying these things but I wasn't bother to begin with, just humored.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 06:15 PM
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PPD is half manosphere half not Again that's perfectly fine, but are you saying that men won't get ridiculed or being called a sexist for posting about women's anxieties in PPD, or just half the time cuz PPD is half Manosphere? We are going in circles here but I'm sure both of us know the answer. That's really not the goal of this post but feel free to create another one to discuss that other topic. Yes, the true goal of the post is about protecting the female narrative and you have done your jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 06:12 PM
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gave my opinion on your thoughts. my opinion is that men who aren’t rich shouldn’t worry so much because they have less to lose, & you took it personal & now you’re saying i’m telling you how to feel. worry all you want to, this is a free country after all. Lol saying I took it personal, but started using words like "flying fuck" and calling me "a little girl". Okay. It is a free country, but apparently men are not free to even worry and have to be told by women. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 06:09 PM
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Edit: to reply to the last part of your post, men who do this in the manosphere are not ridiculed since this is the manosphere main discourse. except we are not having this discussion in the manopshere aren't we? At least I don't consider PPD to be part of the manosphere. The goal of my post was to stop people from spreading more disinformation ? I see so many people spreading fake news here it's worrying as fuck. In that cause we should discuss the truth about why these men have anxieties, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 06:04 PM
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i’m allowed to say whatever i want. freedom of speech. take what i have to say with a grain of salt if it bothers you so much. Nah, I'm bothered why you keep telling me what I should think and how I should feel, because we are living in a free country and I should be allowed to act as such. Tell me again why I shouldn't have to worry? if i wanted you to stop worrying i would’ve told you to stop worrying. truthfully, i don’t care what you do lol. Except you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 06:02 PM
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telling you that you’re worrying for nothing isn’t telling you what to think. except worry is a state of mind. give way to anxiety or unease; allow one's mind to dwell on difficulty or troubles. it’s telling you what i think about what you’re thinking. this is reddit, i‘m allowed to share my opinion on your thoughts. And in that cause we are on the same page cuz I'm worried. Are you telling me that I shouldn't be worried? You are allowed to say I'm worried, you aren't allowed to say I shouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 05:55 PM
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sexist is a meaningless bullshit word that doesnt exist to peopel who arent on the left. its a conceptual misframing of reality Disagree, and no. Sexist isn't meaningless, but rather the left use the these terms beyond their definition, and is surprised when people don't agree with them. yeh im allowed to "Stereotype". get it? not a leftist, dont care about your shibboleths I judge people on their actions and not their words, and it's hilarious how you have a red flair, but your words are defend…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 05:53 PM
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That was never the goal Which is exactly why I don't understand the point of your post. You are more then welcome to say (and yes, most people would agree) that a solid prenup, that's been reviewed by lawyers, is not easy to break. However it doesn't dismiss the fact that male today have anxiety about prenup, or marriage in general. Are you kidding? The manosphere does that all the time so are you saying that when a male made a post about a women's anxieties, they won't get called out for being …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 05:49 PM
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The key word here is "legal circumstances", which is why I bought up the letter of the law vs the interpretation of the law. For example, It's certainly "legal" to wave a prenup due to duress, but the validity of the claim is up to the interpretation of the judge, which is bias. Just because there are anxieties in the manosphere doesnt mean they're based. And unfortunately your post and everything you've said so far has done nothing to dismiss these anxieties. I can't imagine if the situation is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 05:36 PM
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haha never told you what to think. you’re entitled to worry, just saying you’re worrying for nothing if you don’t have nearly as much to lose. Except you did and just did it again lol. Why you keep telling me why I don't have to worry? also you’re forgetting that a large part of why she even got so much money from him was because it was proven in court that she played a part in his business turning out to be successful. i doubt she would’ve gotten as much if that weren’t the case. Again if you r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 05:28 PM
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I will admit I should not have implied in my original thread that one case where it is not clear if the prenup should have been waived would vindicate the fake information that prenups can be waived easily. I would agree too that just because one or two cases happens, it doesn't mean that prenups can be easily wavied too. However if you are interested in a real discussion, the fact remains that men fear prenups because of how prenups really doesn't protect men's assets and rights in a marriage, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 05:08 PM
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Except sexist isn't a swear word. Sexist: "characterized by or showing prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex." Calling other people little girl is definitely stereotyping.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 05:04 PM
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because using the word "flying fuck" is really assertive there lol. No anger at all, absolutely none whatsoever. Quote before you edit: Go ahead, no one gives a flying fuck if you get married except some woman you date Edit: assertiveness is not anger, are you a little girl? Also wow y so sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 04:46 PM
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Did you even read the OP ? This whole thread is about "prenups are hard to break". From your own source: All I read here is a moat and bailey, also the two article just shows how easy it was to break a prenup by claiming duress and/or have laverish weddings. Dont change the goalpost, the OP is pretty clear: Fine and well but I'm still not sure what's your point. If you want to go back to your OP, here you clearly stated "If you don't agree with this: can you provide any information, even just on…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 04:44 PM
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As it should be. Why so angry thou?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 04:35 PM
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unless you have anything remotely close to jeff bezos wealth, you’re worrying for nothing. I'll think for myself rather then have random strangers tell me what to think, thank you. & the amount he lost barely hurt him financially in the grand scheme of things. In 2019, Bezos's wealth was reduced by his divorce from his wife MacKenzie Bezos.[197][198] According to Forbes, had the Washington state common law applied to their divorce without a prenuptial agreement, Bezos's wealth could have been eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 04:23 PM
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Let's put aside the legal details about if these prenups should have been waived or not. or let's not put aside the legal details, because laws are all about details. Let's focus rather on the fact that this thread says that "prenups are pretty solid and almost never get thrown for no reason" Let's focus on the the support for your narrative while ignore mine lol, because we are definitely not in a debate sub and I'm definitely not allowed to present my side of the argument cuz i'm only a male l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 04:13 PM
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"Hypergamy" wasn't invented by men. Partner chooses each other and women have responsible and do make their own choices in the partner they choose, men doesn't make women choose to be with someone better, lol. "Actually in 2014, 38% of women out-earned their husbands, a trend that has only increased. Mothers are nearly 50% breadwinners." Except wealth is only part of the equation, and not the sum of a person's value. Yes, marriage rates are down, but it’s not because of women’s artificial standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 04:09 PM
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I'll like to keep my half, and that who all that matters to too, so thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 03:59 PM
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1) the article I show was just an example of family court bias, and all dispute of prenup goes thru family court. Nice moat and bailey here 2) Here's another example: https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2013/03/11/prenup-trashed-brooklyn-court-dumps-marriage-contract-in-unprecedented-action/ While it's true that alimony can be thrown out due to duress, the interpretation of duress all comes to the interpretation of the judge, which once again is bias toward the female. edit: 3) Also prenup can be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 03:58 PM
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yet somehow Jeff Bezos managed to still lose half, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 03:48 PM
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Because there's such thing as the letter of the law and the interpretation of the law, and family court can (and does) favor women in terms of the law's interpretation. For example: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/no-home-or-kids-together-but-couple-still-spouses-appeal-court-rules "Under Ontario law, an unmarried couple are considered common-law spouses if they have cohabited — lived together in a conjugal relationship — continuously for at least three years. But that doesn’t necessarily m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 03:38 PM
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wait, it's 80/20 again? Always has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 05:10 PM
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Criticism and pointing out the flaws in one's post isn't hate, and none of my criticisms is directed at women to begin with, so I'm not sure where you are getting all this. Considering this is a debate sub, I don't think your comments belongs in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 05:07 PM
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So many points that are just not as valid as you think. Yes, cars move people around faster but so effing what? Cars are also polluting much worse, which was the main point of putting more focus than previously done on snow removal on sidewalks and bikeways. Sorry what? how does cars polluting means that road shouldn't be prioritized to be cleared of snow? Yes, men can be raped by women. Women can penetrate men for example digitally. They can also force oral sex. So are we in agreement then that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 06:50 PM
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Gender equal snow clearing was about not only clearing the roads, as it was hard to move around when snow clearing shoved snow onto pavements and biking paths. Don’t link Swedish policy to a swede who knows exactly what happened. Again... what moves people faster? Actual road with cars, or bikes and sidewalks? And no, I'll continue to post articles detailing the result of this bad policy based on the perspective of common sense and not just because one swede told me not to lol. https://www.lifes…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 12:00 PM
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My point is that, as the article says, people have had prejudice against feminism, since it has been slandered and purposefully misunderstood for decades by people such as yourself, but of course more importantly by people with more power, comfortable with the status quo. Men AND women. Prejudice, or realistic criticism? For example https://www.thelocal.se/20161112/stockholm-transport-heads-defends-gender-equal-snow-clearing Do you consider snow-shoveling to clear sidewalks instead of roads (whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 09:06 PM
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No, you should stop preaching fake news and causing harm to people's mental health https://www.addictioncenter.com/drugs/hallucinogens/psilocybin-mushrooms/ Psilocybin Mushroom Addiction Psilocybin Mushrooms Are Powerful Hallucinogens. There is a debate over whether or not magic mushrooms are addictive. Like any substance, someone can become dependent on the substance for different reasons. The more someone uses mushrooms, they may begin to crave more of the substance. In some cases, individuals…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:43 PM
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Your point? and if "feminism" became associated with man-hating, lesbianism, or lack of femininity (which is ironic), then shouldn't the intellectual feminists have an actual introspective inward look at what they actually stood for and why the public have associated these labels with their movement? Also in the article: "If many believe gender equality is important, and still lacking, then why do relatively few people - including young women - identify as feminist? It could be that they do not …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:36 PM
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Oh right! So the the feminists are the ones in power! Do you have any doubt that that feminism has not influence government policies, social dynamics (including how women are portrayed in hollywood and social media)? And they choose policies that contradict their own beliefs. Thanks for summerizing and articulating that so clearly. Yes It was once believed that feminism stood for equality. Let’s not criticize the policies, let’s criticize the movement that has sane values that are contradicted b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:32 PM
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Lol the critiques of feminism goes waaaay beyond what "random women say" about feminism. Again the article show that younger generation doesn't identify as feminists, the backlash of the Gillette commetcial, or weak showing of "female empowerment" movies such as ghost busters really just speak for themselves. I think you don't understand that society isn't criticizing what feminism say they are, but what they do and the bias and often discriminatory policies of handpicking issues that only suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 09:26 AM
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Feminist doesn't have an intellectual monopoly to describe what themselves are, especially based on their action and the effect of their policies and ideals, and in effect made yourselves immune to criticism. If each group have monopolies on describing themselves, the RP is just a bunch of men who helps other men to navigate today's world especially in dealing with women, and mgtow is just a bunch of men who goes their own way. Yet feminist such as yourself loves to paint theses group with the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 11:22 AM
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Is daily mail your scientific source for your view on gender roles. lol no, the story written by the dailymail doesn't require science to understand, also other news outlets has made reference to this incident as well: https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/630e250e-3b65-4e02-a3ec-d562cd8b7868 Obviously, some women are content with being a traditional woman, a lot believe it is not enough and want the freedom to do whatever they choose to. There's no opposition there. If e person believes she ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 06:41 PM
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If you read your own link you can find it here: "One study found that the effect is mediated by increased gender equality. The mediation comes not from differences in attitudes towards women. But in attitudes towards men. In more egalitarian societies, people have more positive attitudes towards men than in less egalitarian societies.[6]" I believe the wikipedia article was referring how the "women are wonderful" effect" are mediated by gender equality", but definitely nothing about the roles of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 05:59 PM
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I think ultimately the views of "male privilege" is flawed because "female privilege" also exist i.e. women are wonderful effect. Other cases more relevant to the discussion of PPD is that male have to initiate first in the relationship and often times pay for dinner, also the stigma of male being breadwinner in the relationship. Feminist often times preaches the equality of gender, but fail to comprehend that ultimately the genders are difference and there will be difference in how they are tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 12:54 PM
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Lol are you saying that overthinking, over-systematizing, or lack of emparhy isn't a real problem? People like you are the real problem them. Lol try harder "bro".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 07:53 PM
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Or since you are opposing wikipedia'a definition of male privilage, perhapse you should cite what male privilage is as defined by feminist? And no. Perhaps the reality is that male doesn't actually have it easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 07:51 PM
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I would say that most women are unhappy because they realized that life isn't any better once the caged door open. Don't get me wrong; women's liberation is a great thing and i support women's equal rights, but women also discovered with equal rights comes equal responsibility, and that some of their life's failing isn't due to gender equality but their own failings. Women are more unhappy today because they can't handle failings on their own and instead try to blame all problems on the patriarc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 06:23 PM
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Except you still haven't answer the question why women are unhappier. and if it's truly an adjustment, when will it end and what's the end result? Edit: on that note.. what rights have men possess that women don't have in today's western society? and what does it take for women to have an overall happiness level that's at least on par with the 70s?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 05:27 PM
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Nobody suggested consuming psychedelics to avoid real life problems. from OP: "My advice, as a formerly turbo sperg INTJ, do a bunch a shrooms a few times to rewire the overthinking, over-systematizing, lack of capacity for empathy out of your brains." Do you know how difficult it is to become addicted to psychedelics? It's borderline impossible. It's not a thing. I'm sorry that you have been so misinformed about drug addictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 05:11 PM
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You are telling me that consuming psychedelics to avoid real life problem, isn't a sign of drug addiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 05:04 PM
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Again, that's really all to yourself and you have to answer yourself honestly, and not to me. And again, advising people to consume drugs to avoid real life problem is 100% not a healthy advise. Real Life Problems doesn't go away after you took drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:26 PM
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consuming too much psychedelics is substance abuse, that's all I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:25 PM
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Maybe you can cite examples of feminist writing that demonstrate that it isn't the case? I can cite examples where the female's perspective of "male privilege" is strictly due to their gender idenity https://www.cpt.org/files/US%20-%20Male%20Privilege%20Checklist.pdf Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_privilege "Male privilege is the system of advantages or rights that are available to men solely on the basis of their sex. A man's access to these benefits may vary depending on how closely …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:23 PM
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Refusal to admitting to having a problem is also a clear sign of having a problem and denial is a stage... Again ask yourself this: Can you get by a day without shroom? Does shroom rank very high in your priorities that goes above life's necessity and your responsibilities? Don't bother responding and try to defend yourself with humor just like you did in your last reply, but just ask yourself these questions in real life and hopefully you'll eventually come out of it as a healthier human being,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:16 PM
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Honestly at this point, this is a red herring to me. I don't understand why you brought up scientific method in this discussion and how it's related to your shroom addiction. But drugs are bad, M'kay?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:08 PM
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I think the part you are missing here is this: "Stevenson and Wolfers discovered that American women rated their overall life satisfaction higher than men in the 1970s. Thereafter, women’s happiness scores decreased while men’s scores stayed roughly stable. By the 1990s, women were less happy than men. This relative unhappiness softened after the turn of the century, but men continue to enjoy a higher sense of subjective wellbeing that is at least as high — if not higher — than women’s." So no, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:05 PM
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Lol go back and read the Post. OP suggested dealing with life's problem by consuming shroom. We need an intervention on OP's part, and yes, we should ask OP if he/she/it is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:03 PM
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my personality has evolved after shrooms and reading some philosophy books that have revealed that oftentimes the scientific approach to things isn't always as productive as trial and error experimentation and knowledge gained through experience. the rigidity serves no purpose if it isn't utilitarian Oh dear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method It involves careful observation, applying rigorous skepticism about what is observed, given that cognitive assumptions can distort how one in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:01 PM
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It's completely okay. The first step of resolving your problem is to recognize that you have a problem. The very fact that your OP suggest to use drugs as a way to cope with an issue is a very telling sign that you are a victim of substance abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:55 PM
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Again I wish you well and hopefully you'll overcome your mental issues as well as your drug addiction. also your response is very fitting for /r/INTJmeme. I had my doubts about you being an INTJ but now I'm sure you are an INTJ lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:53 PM
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Again i do wish you well and hope that you will eventually recover from your mental issue and your drug addiction, but it's pretty obvious that a community (especially a community such as a reddit sub) can't exist without discussion. At this point, they need not to read, they need to live And how do you know this to be true and that they haven't "live "it? It seems like your argument has too much assumptions and perhaps you should heed your own advise?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:52 PM
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It's a personality test and that INTJ types are problem solvers and introspective thinkers... opposite of what you've demonstrated in your post as well as the way you respond to people in this thread. Shouldn't have that much shrooms to begin with, clearly it affected your logic and reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:45 PM
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The problem here is the double standard that exist. Women have their own space to discuss their problems, and does it without much scrutiny. I can't imagine going into their space and start telling these females to "stop thinking and start doing."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:40 PM
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Your ideal of martyrdom is basically the difficulties and challenges that the modern men face everyday. People in general need the truth in order to act on the correct path and make decisions that's best for themselves. It's small wonder that women, especially feminist don't understand this, and seem to think that being a male is all about privilege and that a guy has it easy in life, when in reality it's the reverse. Men have it easy after they got everything figured out, but women doesn't see …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:36 PM
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As a current self-diagnosed sperg and an actual INTJ, I'll say stay off shroom, or any drugs, or even porn and social media in general for your overall mental as well as physical health. Drugs and porn and social media are nothing but escapism and a true INTJ would never indulge in these things to escape their real life problems to their fantasy land, instead they just figure a solution to deal with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:31 PM
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Maybe no you precisely but the average women in the modern world is reported to be less happy. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/may/18/womens-rights-happiness-wellbeing-gender-gap
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 09:52 AM
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Lol except as stated before by many... they are linked. Guess action and consequences isn't your forte.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 12:15 PM
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male sex drive and motivation goes hand in hand... at least naturally. You can't make people work without the reward... that's call slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 12:09 PM
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Same argument can be made regarding global warming, pollution, war, disease as well. COVID is gonna kill us all, global warming is going to make earth uninhabitable... Why do I care about extinction. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:41 AM
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Whoever approach first loses leverage, because being rejected usually signal a lower status. Whoever initiate first have sunk cost. With that being said, male have no issues being approached by women of equal or higher SMV/RMV. They might even try to let the girl off gently if he doesn't like her. Women thou generally doesn't like being rejected, while men have more experiences dealing with rejection since men gets rejected way more then females in the dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 02:15 PM
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There is absolutely a MGTOW community. Communities form around philosophies, movements, and identities. Whatever you want to call it. There is a Trans community on reddit, but just because someone is trans doesn't mean that they are necessarily participate in that online community, but that community still exists and it can be talked about. On that point... there's a mile of difference between philosophy, movement, and identity. MTGOW is a philosophy - it is a set of beliefs and an approach to l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:33 PM
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Everyone is free to criticize behavior they don't like with or without a specific term. I'm 100% with you on this, the problem is that feminist made up a specific term and indirectly/directly attributed to all males. AMALT, and "you men should do better", and ofcourse the infamous Gillette commercial. I believe dishonesty, knowingly hurting people, and nonconsensual sex acts are always wrong. People who do that should not get a free pass on account of gender. The idea that sexual conquests are m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 07:44 PM
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"The "boys will be boys" excuse hasn't been use in current society at this point," REALLY? Yes. Really. Or at least can you cite examples which it was recently applied? I do not endorse anyone who would stereotype all men. That has nothing to do with the words toxic masculinity as I understand them. Toxic masculinity separates a toxic view of masculinity from masculinity itself. Do you realized that most feminist critique men by stereotyping all of them? Also no, the way toxic masculinity is app…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 05:51 PM
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The message that a particular view of masculinity that some social circles embrace is toxic: it celebrates certain bad behaviors as masculine and condemns many good and neutral behaviors as unmanly. And here's where the double standard lies... when female does something bad, we don't call it "toxic femininity", and also it's the feminist that is the judge of what's considered good and bad behavior and use the term toxic masculinity to push their feminist agenda. it also leads to a lot of doubles…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 05:02 PM
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I’m not asking if you’re sexually attracted to women, I’m asking if you like women on a personal or romantic level in a meaningful way. There seems to be a bit of resentment for women in some spaces on here and a lot of times it’s not explained, they just say things about women all being identical/bitchy/superficial. I have female family members, female friends and female co-workers/bosses who's contributed to my life in a positive way. Generally, how do you feel about women? Can you enjoy them …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 01:26 AM
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Did I actually say that women cant be any of those? Show me a quote of say this then I will take what you dat seriously.I said these are masculine traits, aka these are traits we contribute to masculinity, just like we consider nurturing with being feminine. If a man shows this it is considered a feminine thing. I'm saying these trades aren't exclusively male, so no they can't be classified as masculine traits. So I dont know why I have to qualify this. But you asked for traits that are positive…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 01:19 AM
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lol so are you saying that females are not brave, courageous, or confident, because I'll say both male and female can be courageous, confident, or brave... and I'm not even a feminist. The thing is though if they are contained to just being masculine traits it means women cant have these traits and be feminine. Which is dumb? Again.... if both genders has about the same quantity that trait.. it won't be call a "masculine trait", the same applies to any trait that's considered "toxic"... for exam…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 11:18 PM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/bgabqr/q4bp_who_believe_in_toxic_masculinity_what_are/ This was a thread one year ago. To be honest most arguments in PPD has been rehashed and argued to the death and any meaningful contributor to the discussion has already left the sub. What's left is really feminist and incels trying to the same arguments again, but hoping there's different results because people who knew the answer won't reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:44 PM
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What definite an individual if not for their behavior? You are just playing with linguistics and Semitics here. Men will always behave like men, and if their behavior change then there will be consequences. I.e , men stop chasing women and choose not to interact with women for fear of false rape accusation, just for women to label these new behavior as the next example of toxic masculinity or other "troubling" male behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:54 AM
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You're a male living in a different culture. Definitions are going to change/aren't going to be the same. That's probably why you don't have any concept of "toxic masculinity" = toxic behaviors associated with masculinity. We don't discuss foreign relations here unless someone specifically makes a post about foreign relations. Most of what is posted in this sub relates to the US and western culture. Responding to both statement above: Lol I don't live in the States, but I do live in western cult…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:46 AM
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Why bother posting a definition if you don't even agree with or acknowledge it? You are speaking from an outsider perspective about something that is observed and discussed in another country and saying "it doesn't exist." Gee, I wonder why. Great debate, M8. Lol how can you say I have an outsider perspective when I'm male? and as a male shouldn't I have a closer perspective on male behavior? and shouldn't definition and terms be the subject of debate? aka I can disagree on the definition that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:03 AM
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My rationale? Do you even live in the US, first of all? If not, then I might understand why you don't seem have a concept of masculinity. It's also just one google search away. Lol yes I don't live in the State, but i fail to see how that's relevant? Are you saying that toxic masculinity is a US thing only? Or maybe.... just maybe.... you don't know what masculinity is at all? Or don't believe in it? Again. the topic here isn't masculinity, but toxic masculinity. So you have a definition right h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 03:54 AM
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Again, do you really have to be lectured on how the examples that I mentioned relate to masculinity? Go ahead then. This is a debate sub so ofcourse i want to hear your rationale. No, it doesn't. That would mean that, aside from exposing your dick to strangers, toxic masculinity doesn't exist. Then perhaps maybe... just maybe... toxic masculinity doesn't exist? and yes it'll have to be exclusive, or at least predominately a male trait. What's the point of labeling a behavior with a group (gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 03:41 AM
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except this topic at hand is "toxic masculinity"... if both gender display these behavior then these behavior isn't just "toxic masculinity", but toxic in general. To say a behavior is "toxic masculinity", it has to be exclusive to male behavior only. Also deleting your comments doesn't help your argument, removeddit.com is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 03:16 AM
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I AM SIMPLY STATING THE COUNTERARGUMENT which you seem to agree with. What are we even arguing about? except your "counterargument" misrepresent my original position: This from you This is an IDPOL trap though. "Only black people can talk about black issues" And you "Men should talk about masculinity" No. Everyone can have valid input on issues. https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/impzju/what_exactly_is_toxic_masculinity/g42htwl/ As stated before and by me. Male should have a say …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 02:13 AM
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ad hominem doesn't an argument make. This is a debate sub please at least pretend you are engaging in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:58 AM
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except I never oppose it in the first place, despite your attempt at strawmening, again show men where I've stated or even alleged that male should have a monopoly on defining masculinity and actually start having a discussion in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:52 AM
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Lol are you telling me that females don't drink alcohol, reckless/overaggressive driving or virgin-shame? Also it's your argument, so please link what you've listed as example to masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:51 AM
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Show me where I've stated or even alleged that male should have a monopoly on defining masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:27 AM
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except if you haven't notice. Only females (and especially feminist) can label and define what's considered "toxic masculinity". When male try to say that the behavior isn't toxic, there's a lot of feminist push back instead. Everyone can have valid input on issues. So yes you are agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:20 AM
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Examples: drinking alcohol in any fashion, reckless/overaggressive driving, n-count bragging or virgin-shaming, and many more. Except your examples doesn't limit itself to male only, nor males are the one even predominately displaying these behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:16 AM
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and here lies the problem. Feminist dominated the literature and dictate the terminology to fit their ideology. If toxic masculinity is about male, why shouldn't male have a say in what it really means?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:14 AM
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This question comes up all the time. The challenge for feminist who created the term "toxic masculinity" is to try to come up with examples of masculinity that's not toxic. Till this day, they can't come up with a single example. So in the end all masculinity is toxic to feminists, which is really their uncovered intent to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:12 AM
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Men have to be respected based on their accomplishments, and develop their ego and personality by facing adversity. A lot of that was robbed from us but by various means: 1) Video games means we are satisfied our accomplishment in the virtual and digital world instead of the real world, and generally accomplishment are easier in the digital world then real one (which is why video games has the draw that it possess). I did learn a few things about hierachy and teamwork by being in a competitive r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:09 AM
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Yes but AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 06:11 AM
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Maybe the problem is that you classify pill stagetied as "evil" ? The argument that pills(especially redpill) is amoral rathern then immoral has been an old argument that has been around for a while and you are just rehashing old arguements
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 06:02 AM
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Reason #1: Its "against/anti" women. Mgtow forums often criticise women, and since women in todays society are angels and can't be criticised, people will hate mgtow movement I would say it has to do with female already dominating the media and public opinion (and more of the women are wonderful/require protection effect) Men's right has the potential to be more about protecting men's right then criticizing women, but its brand is still being tarnished by feminist's slander campaign. Another big…
/r/MGTOW228/08/20 09:56 PM
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How does OP knows that people that hate Instagram models are following them? How does one have an opinion on something without having some exposure to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:32 PM
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I don't think that most mainstream feminists are saying that women should take over the world and relegate men to second-class citizens. that's not what I was saying either, and I don't understand how you came to the conclusion based on what I've said so far. But you can't deny that the "don't need no man" and "women are able to do things men can" has been floating around in pop culture. Examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqAJLh9wuZ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msUCyAVeXUU&vl=en https…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 12:03 AM
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I wanted to just be accepted when I was little but boys would never talk to me the same way they talked to each other. It does suck that the moment you walk up, they change their mannerisms and speech and shit. That's not possible to begin with due to the fact that people recognizes the gender as different, and people act different when faced with different people, so it's not just a gender thing. And that's the thing - the fact that you change your tune around us tells us everything we need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 10:46 PM
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Argument from Fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy#:~:text=Argument%20from%20fallacy%20is%20the,and%20the%20bad%20reasons%20fallacy. https://effectiviology.com/fallacy-fallacy/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 10:38 PM
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Sure. I've stated before that incel has actually taken over MGTOW before, and that the population of MGTOW has already moved into /r/MGTOW2, which actually have rules against women hating and negativity in general. If you want actual examples of MGTOW, take it from MGTOW2 instead, which is actually not a quarantined sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 10:33 PM
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I think we are actually in agreement here, the statistical problem as highlighted in the video is that male and female are reporting different numbers 4 for female and 9 to male, which isn't possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:30 PM
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Not MGTOW on reddit who's posting on falseflag account, because I could cite multiple examples of women saying kill all men on twitter, and I don't consider the majority of feminist wanting to kill all men. You'll need something from popular MGTOW like stardust or Sandman saying these things, and as far as content creator for MGTOW are concern, their thoughts are that the floodgate has already opened and it's too late to bring it back.... and that MGTOW shouldn't care about society in general lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:04 PM
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I’m pretty sure there’s not a human alive that doesn’t know the stereotype that women want relationships and love over sex I just find the whole thing hilarious because MGTOW's aim is to actually get away from their sex drive.. AKA monk mode, and yes, as you so eloquently stated... they are exercising their rights not to be motivated by sex. But you don’t see women saying we should take away men’s rights because they don’t love or date us Sure. Cite any example where MGTOW state that women's rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:42 PM
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Agree, but hilariously enough so does any of the higher emotions such as love and being in a relationship. A 30+ year old women could probably relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:17 PM
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If someone’s goal is mutual respect between two groups, then it becomes alarming when one group completely opts out of even trying to respect the other group. The key word here is "if", and your statement runs contrary to today's feminism message of women being able to do things men can and that they don't need no man. and I’m guessing that the author really just wants men and women to get along as equals with equal opportunities and equal power in society. The tone and the attitude the article …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:14 PM
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i'll like the opportunity to point out some double standards, and counter-points from the article: "The implication was that there are so many women ready to lie about rape that any contact with them is simply too dangerous to risk. In reality, a man in the UK is 230 times more likely to be raped himself than falsely accused of rape." The 2006–07 Crime Survey for England and Wales (formerly the British Crime Survey) reports that 1 in every 200 women were raped in that period. It also showed that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:46 PM
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I'll summarize the part of the video for you Let's say there are 5 of Gender A and 5 of Gender B. In this extreme example all of 5 of Gender A sleeps with only one member of Gender B. The N Count would be as follows A1 = 1 A2 = 2 A3 = 3 A4 = 4 A5 = 5 Average (1+1+1+1+1)/5 = 1 B1 = 5 B2 = 0 B3 = 0 B4 = 0 B5 = 0 Average (5+0+0+0+0+0)/5 = 1 That's because the act of sleep together requires both Gender A and B. Now let's say there's only 4 of Gender B and 5 of Gender A: A1 = 1 A2 = 2 A3 = 3 A4 = 4 A…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:16 PM
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So where are they getting the data they are commenting on from? What data? The video was referencing the flaws of statistics.. and just happen to be using N-count as an example. The fact that the N-count of male and female should be identical is a logic and the difference, as explained by the video, was due to population size difference. Again, please watch the first part of the video before further commenting plz.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:06 PM
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It's another thing to spend your time searching the internet for studies on other people's sex lives. The video doesn't have any content that relates to any studies on other people's sex lives to begin with, so I have no idea what you are referring to. Perhaps you should actually watch the first part of the video, and actually read to understand what my post is about, before you start making malicious posts and pointing fingers? do give you credit for bringing up the flaw in these types of studi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:01 PM
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Actually this just came up over at least a few months subscribing to that youtuber, and his whole video wasn't even about N-count to begin with, but most about statistics and how it can be misleading in general. There's no way that one could arrived to this video if you explicitly search for N-count on youtube, so once again your narrative spinning just fails and fall flat. I just don't get it. Maybe because I wasn't obsessed with N-count to begin with lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 06:56 PM
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Citation needed?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 06:40 PM
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Again your statement would be true if they don't include prostitution in the female they survey. I don't see any reason or why prostitutes are deleted from the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 03:58 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 03:04 PM
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But if we are talking absolute numbers involved men will be overwhelmingly over represented. Again I'll like to point back to the video. I think what you are describing is more like a lot of men vs less women in hookup culture. However because of the gender imbalance, women there have high N count. So yes hookup culture wouldn't exist without women in it, but the fixation with hookup culture is why so my are suck on 80-20, etc. They are looking for unicorns. Agree to that extent, except men shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 03:02 PM
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Religion and personal belief could be a factor. Some people do choose to withheld sex until after getting married, or are being withhold from sex by their girlfriends till after marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 02:57 PM
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I'm not going to agree or disagree with you, but because this is a debate about statistics, one should at least have some stats to back up what they say. because if that was the case women wouldn’t have wanted hookup culture then. I do agree that just like N-count. It takes both genders to participate in hookup culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 02:28 PM
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selection bias is only one of the possible explanation. Is there anything more you try to get from this post ? By your comments I don't understand what you expect to get. It's just to generate discussion and to put us in the right frame of mind when N-count is being bought into the discussion. From what I see in this thread, most people still don't understand that the averages should be close to equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 02:10 PM
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Agreed, which is why "average" N-count for the purposes of a population is meaningless. What we should be looking for is skewness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 01:57 PM
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I don't remember bring prostitution up , nor does the video mention anything about prostitution... Also prostitution are considered female and should be included in the sample, or at least not be excluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 01:54 PM
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What you are describing is what statistician call "Tail-end" and skewness. Not disagreeing with you here, but just pointing out what N-count was supposed to look like and what it logically should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 01:48 PM
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Assuming there's no reporting bias and sampling bias, the N count should still be about the same even if there's a harem scenrio. I believe if there's sampling bias, it just means that men who doesn't get sex are just invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 01:13 PM
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These people have likely been burned a few too many times and are seeking refuge from the harsh world of dating and relationships, much to other people's dismay when they begin employing tactics that protect themselves but exploit or hurt others in the process to obtain what they wanted, whether it be sex or whatever perks that someone has to offer in a relationship at near-zero cost to the one who plays the game the best. I think OP underestimate how many times an average male gets rejected or …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 01:57 PM
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There are three ways to deal with this when it comes to psychology. You can resent it, or you can say you got something else better, or you can diminish the importance of what was denied to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 07:05 PM
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What you've described as "misogynistic" is what men would considered "self-interested" aka looking out for themselves and looking to get their share of what they put in and asking for a fair deal. And men subsequently spent the majority of human existence using violence, laws, forced social structures, emotional manipulation, physical dominance, you name it, trying to level that playing field. You'll probably need to cite examples of what you are describing. Also I don't believe in retribution f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 07:02 PM
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Sanity talk here. Humans in general are not great at checking their urges. Also what's considered ethical for one gender is different then another, and can vary from couple to couple. (i.e. some couples considered flirting with others cheating, others might not.) All this comes in consideration that women are advantaged and privileged both in relationship and the divorce court.... and the fact that most people are self serving into taking these advantages means it's a safe bet for guys to take p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 11:21 PM
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I think it all depends on genetics and 30 is indeed too young to "hit the wall" in terms of looks. However biologically menstruation cycle does start to decrease around that time. It's also important to note that women do hit the wall eveuntually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 01:16 PM
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Sure feminism has overstepped multiple times but in general i think it’s doing well Again the criticism that feminist doesn't police their own still stands. Any social movement that doesn't check their own can be easily swayed and their message distorted, as well as becoming a danger to itself and society. Just imagine if no one stands up against women acting on false rape accusation... many innocent men will go to jail on crimes they didn't commit, and lost their future prospect as well as losi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:50 PM
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Eh, I mean we both know that even faced with hard data people don’t change their mind that easily and even in the case they do they aren’t happy with it. I think generally my stance on a lot of topics we talk about here is that the red pill is acting based on how things are. While the blue pill is making decisions on how we’d like the world to be, more equal. Mostly agree. I generally think that if we all started acting this way the culture would change and that would change behavior. That's the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:27 PM
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It's not about winning. Just having a casual conservation on reddit that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:00 PM
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hat I’m arguing is that it’s unfounded. Men have been told that high n count women are bad for ltrs and therefor prefer low n count women. If there was a way to perform a blind study where husbands didn’t know the n count of their wives and visa versa, I don’t believe there would be correlation. I’ll have to take a look at the Wikipedia article you sent when I’m not on mobile, can’t find the source right now Except it's not un-found, and once again was supported by the link I've just posted in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 11:44 AM
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But If people didn’t ask about n counts I don’t think there would be any measurable difference in ltr success for high n count women. So we are just arguing different things "If." Again I'll point out to the article "the article cite the average acceptable numbers are 3, and for men, their acceptable cut off point is 11." I don't know how many times that needs to be pointed out that men accepting women with high N count isn't the norm... ofcourse a women might find someone like that, but it woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:44 AM
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Again... I'll like to point out what was said in the article that I've posted in my previous post. https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/746787/sexual-partners-number "the article cite the average acceptable numbers are 3, and for men, their acceptable cut off point is 11." Think eleven is lower then numbers in the teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:07 AM
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I only brought up the fact of the rarity of “high” n count women to say that it’s not helpful to have a conversation based on their experiences in relation to women as a whole Are we even discussing women as a whole? When talking about n counts in the teens I believe there is not a negative correlation with ability to have a ltr. Does that make sense from where I’m coming from The average numbers varies, but most studies varies between 4 to 8. So being in the Teens is actually pretty high. https…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 05:07 PM
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Lol no. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_promiscuity The idea of being pure and waiting for sex after marriage has been well grounded in religion even in pre-historic times.. way before manosphere even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 04:40 PM
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Many people, both men and women go through a period of their life where they have casual sex. That doesn’t mean that they never want a LTR or that they are incapable of being committed. But yet it's common knowledge that people prefer their mate to have a low N count... this isn't about they wanting an LTR later, but the consequences of having a lot of casual sex, leading to be less desirable when they do want an LTR. This is akin to the same argument that people shouldn't work hard in their you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 04:26 PM
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I wouldn’t have found her if I wasn’t dating a lot of women. Idk why you think women can’t do the same thing Because just because you date doesn't mean you'll have sex. But all kidding aside, what I think we are saying is that in reality these absurdly high n count people/women are so few and far between it doesn’t make sense to even factor them into your evaluation. In reality a “high”n count is in the teens. And at that point we/I don’t believe there is an appreciable difference in ability to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 04:22 PM
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asymptote Sure, but what's the difference between 99% vs 99.99% chance of not getting an LTR? I think you are too caught up with semantics here, but still failing to address the issues with High N count making LTR harder to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 03:04 PM
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Lol "Non-fallacious usage - Logic and critical thinking textbooks typically discuss slippery slope arguments as a form of fallacy but usually acknowledge that "slippery slope arguments can be good ones if the slope is real—that is, if there is good evidence that the consequences of the initial action are highly likely to occur. The strength of the argument depends on two factors. The first is the strength of each link in the causal chain; the argument cannot be stronger than its weakest link. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:46 PM
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lol again no. That's not a slippery slope fallacy. A Slippy slope fallacy would be if i say having an N count makes LTR harder, therefore anyone with an N count is impossible to have an LTR. Also the consequence of having a high N count and harder LTR is not unforeseen as have direct correlation. We have just spend the last few post agreeing on this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:42 PM
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Lol, if higher N count means it's more difficult for one to have an LTR, then there must be a point where one have racked up enough N count to make LTR impossible. I just find it say that people have to play the politically correct angle and play up to fantasizes just to avoid the consequences of their actions and the life-choices they've made.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:37 PM
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I agree that a low N-count is fine for most people, myself included. The question that was posed under this part of the thread was was scottandcake's comment: "Fuck 100 guys if you want to and if that what makes you happy but realize few men will want to commit to you." So I believe you should address that part of the question in order to move on to the discussion. It's not about whether 50 or 100 is rare, but if a women is very promiscuous, does it already, through their actions, signal to othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:30 PM
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Does it actually take someone fucking 100 guys to find you thou?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:19 PM
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So yeah, As kids we were not supposed to listen to our parents and other adults and instead have the onus to figure out stuff on our own... lol. You are standing by a huge unrealistic standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:23 PM
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Except the boomer are your parents and adult figures when you are a kid growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 10:57 AM
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There is no fairness in the world. It's a leftist agenda and an ideological fantasies to assume that anything in the world is "fair". The biggest problem is that no one can agree on what's "fair". Shouldn't women should not have the fear of being raped when they walk alone at night? Shouldn't single mothers have a chance to get the love they serve? shouldn't high N-count women be viewed the same as low-count women? what about men believing that since this is the age if equality, women should cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 11:56 PM
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Lol but was that in any of my reply to you? When we are having a discussion, you are talking to me. not anyone else you want to assume to be talking to, not should you impose their beliefs into our discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 01:28 AM
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That's a lie. Most have had exes and at least 1 or 2 ONS. Most people have gone through life and its changed how they think and what they want. I don't even know where you get this crazy Disney idea where people are marrying their first love. The only way someone would think that is if they're from a religious area. I didn't say "First love" I said first choice.... meaning their best option out of all the options they have at the time. Lol. You should actually read what what people are saying be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:12 PM
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Most people aren't anyone's first choice. So I never understood why so many guys lament over not being this super unrealistic perfect man that gets any woman he wants. I feel sad for you then. Most people are each other's first choice. Women also demand that they are the male's first choice when it comes to relationship. I suspect you get these ideas from FDS. It's toxic and you should stay away from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:52 PM
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Why does the manosphere consider mgtow a good thing, yet women who have full lives without partners somehow a negative? 1) manosphere will also consider thing from the male perspective. MGTOW is a good thing because they control their lives and choose not be be married or be in an unequal relationship with women 2) manosphere view women who have lived without partners, but still desires partners, a negative. The difference between that and MGTOW is that MGTOW doesn't desire partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 11:54 AM
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Women always have the upper hand when it comes to dating because they are the gatekeeper of relationship. Compared to the past, women doesn't have it easier when it comes to dating due to multiple factors: 1) Women's standards are higher, so to them it's harder to find their desired quality of men 2) changing gender dynamics made things more complicated for everyone involved, 3) Women started dating late, so they got less time before their biological clock runs out. 4) Most women found themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 05:27 PM
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Feminist and BP has often cite changing gender roles... and that's fine because I believe Male can and should take on more household duties, take on more active roles in child rearing etc to adopt to changes in gender dynamics. The problem is that female do not find these traits attractive so even if male are taking on these roles that's left from women moving to be more career orientated. Ultimate the power in the relationship lies in the female (who are the choosers) but they do not self-regul…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:35 PM
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Actually I doubt he heard of MGTOW, which is why MGTOW is so amazing... men from different background, walks of life, and races are coincidentally coming to the same conclusion about women, often times independently. To me that's very telling about MGTOW's message and how things are going for men in today's world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:48 PM
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You can try /r/MGTOW2... where they actually have a rule for not talking too much about women. I'll expect trolls to start falseflagging /r/MGTOW2 thou.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:44 PM
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again... MGTOW is not limited to reddit. In fact you have just pointed out the reason why MGTOW is flooded with misogynist messages... subs like /r/incel got banned and their user flooded into subs like MGTOW instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:06 PM
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Can you address OP's post instead of resorting to Ad-hominen? I believe OP talks about MGTOW's utility to beta male, and not about the sub.. also the MGTOW's community goes way beyond reddit. There's large MGTOW channels on Youtube for example. In theory its fine, it looks like Japan's herbivore men. Men who can't make it find fulfillment other places. But the reality is you guys are incellite and saying just ignore that for the parts I like is asking us to ignore over half of your content. No. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:42 PM
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Why does that matter? Because there's such thing as emotional cheating? The statistics only counts when the spouse have sex outside of marriage. If a woman gets cheated on, do you really think she is going to go 'Oh understandable, it's because of biology after all!'... No. No. It just highlights that both genders wanted to cheat, but male's numbers are higher because the statistics only counts when sex happens. Am I wrong? Is the lifetime risk of a cheating partner higher for women or not? Depe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 09:01 PM
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Ok, so you agree men do cheat more! Great! Point to me where I said otherwise? But I do say nuance matters.. because the difference is due to biology. Your turn to start acknowledging other people's argument. I never said that, but across almost every age, men are more likely to cheat, the lifetime risk of being cheated on is higher if you're a woman And here's an example of the narrative control that i was talking about. Again... if you see my edited response (cuz you edited yours)... I said th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:24 PM
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My point is men cheat more than women on average, which is demonstrably true. And I'm not saying it's false, but you keep implying that i was.. literally strawmen tactics. What does the reason you think it happens matter? Because that means it's non sequitur. Just because men cheats more doesn't mean they don't want loyal partner, but rather the difference is explained by biology. There's also more men on any dating sites then women, again what's your point. Neither of your points refute my poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:59 PM
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Men across EVERY AGE GROUP bar one cheat more. When women cheat more, there is only a 1% difference. Again.. sick of the narrative control. The biggest difference between the percentage is for the 80%+ age group. which is 24% for men vs 6% for women. Men also signed up to the website 'Ashley Madison' a lot more than women. Many want to cheat but can't find a suitable opportunity. There's also more men on any dating sites then women, again what's your point. Neither of your points refute my point…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:50 PM
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If you are trying to actually have an argument then plz at least read the article. 1% isn't much? looking at the same chart, female at 30-39 age group women still cheats 11% vs men at 14% for a messily 4% swing, but of course you want to paint it as a bigger problem when men does it. You should admit you are wrong in a debate instead of trying to minimize your opponent's argument, again your behaviour is disgusting and no wonder why this sub is toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:40 PM
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The left have often pointed out that the wealth gap is growing.. as in the rich getting richer and the poor getting poor? Does this fact not support the same argument (because wealth/economic is also a big factor when it comes to dating and relationship) It's ironical how the left often ended up contradicting their own narrative, or just ignore it when its convenient for their argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:34 PM
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However, as the figure above indicates, this gender gap varies by age. Among ever-married adults ages 18 to 29, women are slightly more likely than men to be guilty of infidelity (11% vs. 10%). But this gap quickly reverses among those ages 30 to 34 There's also a chart on the article as well that literally pointed out that fact. This is literally from the article, or do you not reading things that disagree with your world views? I dislike having discussion with those that are intellectually dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:27 PM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america#:~:text=also%20means%20infidelity.-,In%20general%2C%20men%20are%20more%20likely%20than%20women%20to%20cheat,gender%20gap%20varies%20by%20age. it's a bit more complicated then that. In the 18-29 age group women cheat more then men. The fact that women cheat less as they age is because of biology, while men isn't hindered by biology as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:17 PM
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off topic: the format of your post is horrible. if you want to add line breaker just put a space at the end of your sentence and then press enter https://www.reddit.com/wiki/commenting on topic: I don't understand what's the purpose of making this post. I would say you've pointed out the obvious problem of double standard here yourself when you stated that you won't date single dad if disclosed, but will continue to date one if he disclosed after the fact. Sooo.... apply the golden rule and trea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 04:52 PM
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I'm not sure what point you are trying to raise here. OP is asking for proof about " start the campaign for "mandatory" paternity testing and paper abortions?" I've provided proof that there's activism for these and other causes the MRA embrace. (points which other posters here have raised in terms of MRA and its lack of actual activism) I think that's sufficient to answer OP's questions. The fact that OP is not aware of these causes means that OP should go educate themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:07 PM
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Just because it doesn't appear in mainstream media doesn't mean it's not happening: https://www.thelocal.se/20160304/let-men-have-legal-abortions https://menandfamilies.org/family-shelter-for-abused-men-and-children/ https://www.webmd.com/balance/features/help-for-battered-men#1 https://equalitycanada.com/SeJXc https://www.gofundme.com/f/47bx5q Edit : and literally the whole Movember movement. https://ca.movember.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:26 PM
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Meta: I find it offputting that the OP doesn't source or at least reference where this discussion came from. https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/hmrbn0/why_do_so_many_dudes_see_sex_as_the_best_thing_in/ It take away a lot of context and people are being mislead when they joined the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:58 PM
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It's a bad characteristic... for marriage, for the very same reason why in another post bp argued why male with high n-counts are bad at marriage... higher chances of infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 09:05 AM
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You've got me interested enough to actually google up the actual study - Takes 5 seconds and I'm not sure why OP hasn't done so already if he's interested as well in this discussion to dismiss a study's relevance: https://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Dark-Triad-Personality.pdf "One hundred and twenty eight female undergraduates at a British university, (mean age, 19.4; range, 18–36) participated in the study, conducted via online questionnaire. Participants were given cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 02:02 PM
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First of all - let's all look back at the study that some user has bought up to provide empirical differences to support Redpill: https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill "In a study by Cartera et al. (2014), 128 women were presented with male characters of varying degrees of dark triad personality. Physicality was held constant. Men with dark traits were rated as dramatically more attractive to women compared to control characters who lacked these traits (with >99.9% statistical certainty, p …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 01:31 PM
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Holy fuck, are you that dense? 100 is MINIMUM, not IDEAL. The ideal sample size will depend on the nature of the study. There are billions of women in the world, from many different countries. You go to each of those country and you will find variations in what women usually like. You will also find variations based on age and life experience. You can't just poll 120 women and expect me to take it seriously. That's as retarded as it gets. For a study like this you would need to do it on a local …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 10:19 AM
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No, it's not a good sample at all, when you have over 3 billion women in the world. you are literally arguing against math at this point. http://www.tools4dev.org/resources/how-to-choose-a-sample-size/ "Most statisticians agree that the minimum sample size to get any kind of meaningful result is 100. If your population is less than 100 then you really need to survey all of them." Then you have nonsense like this: "Women are incapable of loving men like men expect to be loved" I think you are rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 08:28 AM
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128 sample is actually a good study size due to how t stat. Not sure what's your complain here if you actually know statistics http://www.tools4dev.org/resources/how-to-choose-a-sample-size/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 08:00 AM
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It does matter especially if you are going to portray marriage as essentially prostitution, where then man provides the resource and the women gives him sex in return. If both are providing resources for each other, then that model doesn’t work. Debatable. Considering that I don't see disagreement when we discuss the fact that women do marry for a combination of resources and sexual attraction. Do we not agree to this? I think the angle that requires examination is that men also married for a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 04:09 PM
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That's not what I'm saying either. The argument still works even if the man is not being a sole provider in the relationship. From another perspective 70% of husbands make more then their wives, and even then that's not sufficient ground to avoid alimony in certain states or countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 03:49 PM
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I think there's a gross misunderstanding on how Bluepill interpret Redpill teachings and OP's post is just another example of this. This is a common trp trope I see repeated on here and it has no basis in reality in my opinion. There isn’t a single women I know who has gotten into a relationship with a man she didn’t find attractive just for money or resource. There has been some exceptions of course and most of these women were blatant gold diggers with a certain mentality that anyone would hal…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 03:40 PM
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That's not true. Most guys here don't care about morality. Their arguement is that women change as they have more experence in sex, and that they prefere to be the partner who show then these experiences the first time rather instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:47 AM
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Is the prevailing image of women that they’re virtuous, or treacherous, promiscuous, and unfaithful, or is it more nuanced? Women are human beings and can range for all the above categories at any given circumstances. The thing is thou that anyone can be tempted and everyone have a price. I disagree with your interpretation of the various group thou and it require more nuance. Category A) TRPers and MGTOWs For MGTOW, they just look at today's divorce rate, the rate of successful relationship, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 05:12 PM
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While men and women are different, we’re more similar than we think. We are... we are all self-interested and the problem is that we wanted the other gender to provide more, which puts us in conflicting views. The problem is that only one gender is acknowledging this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 08:07 PM
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To be harassment it apparently has to be repeated or severe enough, which isn't what I'm describing. Think this needs to be examined: "commenting on the attractiveness of others in front of an employee" " On that note. "That is, a co-worker standing nearby when inappropriate sexual comments are uttered may be affected, even if the comments aren't directed toward them. "t's also worth noting that victims of the harassment may not be just the target of the offense, but anyone who is affected by th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 12:37 PM
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Lol I already have a girlfriend and all my previous female partners are not from work. So yes you are right lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:44 AM
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I've asked everywhere in this comment section examples of dudes getting fired for asking a girl out or saying to a woman she's beautiful ONCE. I didn't get a damn example. How about instead we just look at the letters of the law? "While overt forms of sexual harassment certainly still happen in the workplace, more subtle forms of harassment are on the rise. For example, any of the following actions can be sexual harassment if they happen often enough or are severe enough to make an employee unco…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:40 AM
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not actually harassing anyone, you tried one time to tell your coworker she's sexy beautiful (had to edit so people don't overfocus on a random example) and she reacted negatively, you stop there and don't bother her unnecessarely). Here's one thing Redpill absolutely gets right and I believe most BPers can't disagree with... Don't shit where you eat. Also the problem is... there's a chance that telling your co-worker is beautiful is considered harassment in the first place. Remember a social in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 11:54 PM
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It is thou. There's some twisted stuff going on in the bible, and I don't see the current church preaching any of the below at a sermon. Deuteronomy 21:18 " If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20 And they shall say…
/r/MGTOW219/06/20 11:36 PM
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Whatever acts when the it shows that the women is into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 09:53 PM
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/04/shortage-eligible-men-has-left-women-taking-desperate-steps/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 04:04 PM
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All that stuff is pretty standard expectation for a relationship... and the list isn't even inclusive.. stuff like not cheating, having share goals and ideas (children, finances, etc) should also be on the list. The fact that people have to make a post about this and ask men is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 04:32 PM
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I’ll leave this here for your reading pleasure: https://www.payscale.com/data/gender-pay-gap Your link stated that the controlled wage gap for median salary between men and women with the same job and same qualification is 98 cents for women for 1 dollar of men. That's 2 cent is insignificant enough of a statistical difference. Do you not read your own source? Also Your buzzfeed article about retracting study of the previous gender study of STEM wasn't refering to the article I posted so I'm not…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:46 PM
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No one will ever tell me the wage gap isn’t real. I saw it in action. https://www.forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2019/06/06/dispelling-myths-about-the-gender-pay-gap/#23a6887946fa I just told you. Not a myth at all. I had two classmates apply for the same job fresh out of school. The woman had higher class rank, more experience and all around better dentist. The male who didn’t have great social skills and didn’t do great work was offered more. Neither were married or had children. what does den…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:15 PM
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How on earth do you equate a physical act like sex to gender opportunity issues? I'm not... in fact if you read again.. I'm telling OP that no one in this sub is saying women owe men sex. That’s like saying if the black man isn’t going to serve me it’s his problem to fix racism..... Again No. if you read carefully again... no one on this sub is advocating male to have sex with female to fill any quota to begin with. I can understand thou.. it's women's modus operandi to highlight a cause and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 11:19 AM
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I agree thou that it's certainly not women's responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men, but using the same argument... we can all say it's not a man's job to fill in the wage gap, the STEM gap, the CEO gap, and on and on, and men are sick and tired to have the agenda pushed to our faces and having to be told to make room for women for the sake of "equality" And the worst part is... I don't see anywhere on the other thread of people telling women they should have se…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:42 AM
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Sure, but the thing that's missing in the equation is what the women provide in the relationship. If the women provide sufficient things and qualities that a guy wants, even if he was a chad/attractive male, he'll choose not to mess around because he got a good thing going and might not get a better deal otherwise. A man with no option would still leave or not put his shares into the relationship because he's treated poorly and doesn't see the point of contributing to a relationship when the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:50 PM
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WOW this is so disconnected from reality that I don’t even know what to say. I’ll allow the stupidity for the moment, but only for the moment. Let me start from the beginning. MGTOW is a movement founded by divorced fathers and cucked boyfriends. These men had some of it or all of it. If you go your own way, you’re doing it because you’ve realized you don’t want it anymore. And the only way to know that is if you had at least some of it. You don’t decide you don’t want cake unless you actually h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 04:58 PM
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Not necessary and irrelevant in the context of OP's question. Doesn't matter if they got sent their own way, at the end of the day, MGTOW show Men the way to not be slaves to their desire and catering to women and just have to realized for these men, dating and being in a relationship with a women is a bad deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 04:31 PM
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This is the classic example of causation fallacy. Basically one assume that because 1 out of 5 CEO are sociopaths, that being a sociopaths is a advantage when you want to be a CEO, when in reality there are probably as man Psychopaths and Sociopaths who failed in their careers, just as there are Psychopaths and Sociopaths that fails at "game". The biggest disadvantage for Psychopaths and Sociopaths when it comes to "game" is their lack of empathy, as they can't tell a girl's feeling. This is det…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:06 PM
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ITT: OP thinks all women wants relationship. OP should be banned for misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 06:54 PM
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If it's womem desire for commitment, isn't it her responsibility to filter out men who'll commit to fuckboys? What happened to women's agency? Also hilarious.. when then genders are flipped and it's the men who got cheated on or divorce-raped... the very same women would tell these men they should have chosen better lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:57 AM
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Ive heard of it. Ignoring the misogyny and covert pussy obsession of the sub. They irony that the same attitude of what you've viewed as "misogyny and convert pussy obsession" is what feminist uses to advocate their cause, has not be lost to me. MGTOW as a philosophy isnt going to be appealing to most of these men. And it doesnt solve the alienation problem. No philosophy is going to appeal to the mass. MGTOW appeal to those that seeks it. Also I don't think you understand alienation problem at …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 04:09 PM
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With Redpill ideology stressing the importance of men maintaining frame and veneer of strength, stability and control with their interactions with women in order for women to continue being attracted to men, what do Red Pill men do to get the relief of emotionally opening up to someone and getting support and advice when they have difficult problems or want to ease the load of expectations for a bit? I think OP doesn't understand a few things or misunderstand what RP was trying to say. For examp…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 02:09 PM
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Guess OP never heard of MGTOW. Most Redpill do teach men to cope and deal with women in the 21st Century... just not in the way BP and feminist likes, because "friends" don't shower ppl with attention, take them out to dates and pay for them, and seek a more fair and balanced relationship then cater to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 02:52 PM
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It's absolutely not true. I'll rather say that it's important that my potential female partner is also at least earning as much as I do. That way she has less chances of being a gold-digger and I'll be ruled more favorably in the off-chance of a divorce settlement. The argument that RP makes here is about education not increasing SMV, (They are better off marrying young, then to pursue education and career, which is something i have some disagreement with. Human lifespan has generally increase w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 06:42 AM
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ITT: OP is caught up in how the left seemed to work...aka movement based on issues.. and the fact that they see one issue trumping the other is why the left tend to eat itself because to them... there can only exist one dominate issue that superceded the rest... whether it's LQBTQA over feminism, or BLM over white feminism. It's the same toxic attitude of victimhood hierachy that makes it so that men's right movement cannot exist where feminist movement exist... where ppl can't be fearful of fal…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:15 AM
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We all know what the term betabux is in the context of this subreddit but many posters just want to dodge the conversation by pretending the term isn't conventional... it's simple ladies: did you think you settled when you married a guy and did you marry him for money and security more then sexual attraction? Did you marry a yes man who'll do anything for you and tend to lack a backbone? Did you ended up wearing the pants in the relationship? If you answered yes then you married a betabux
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:07 AM
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I'm Asian so there are some cultural specific thing that applies differently. For example asian girls do tend to look younger so they hit the wall a bit later... I'll say 40 is where they started to hit the wall. In general they are less open to hookup and sex but it's not impossible to get some action going. IOI ques can also different for Asian and I suspect it's due to culture as well. Finally there's a lot of Asian golddiggers out there. And yes, you'll need to learn some lines and smooth ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 12:41 AM
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I've started the dating game late and only started in my 30s. From a male perspective, having more previous relationships means you'll have more experience dealing with women, and that's a positive. You'll learn to avoid some landmines, know what women is looking for and what's expected in a relationship, and moreover what you are looking for in a relationship as well. Most of my dating experience confirmed some aspect of redpill, rejected some, and even some that the sidebar hasn't taught me. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 10:46 PM
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I don't think it's great news considering people can just false flag... make alt accounts and spam hentai porn or anything just to get the sub quartatined.. nvm the fact that spez can just modify users's post.. It's time for mgtow to think of alternative sites or backup plan that goes beyond such toxic site as reddit
/r/MGTOW204/06/20 03:33 AM
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The irony of feminist demanding equal pay and closing the wage gap, but at the same time would only pair with men who earns more then they do has not been lost to me
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/06/20 01:48 PM
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If anything, it is low value men who don't want to chase. They are used to get everything the hard way so they get pleasantly surprised when a girl is easy. High value men are the opposite, they are more likely to pursue you if you are not easy. FDS is right to tell women to wait. Yes and no and it actually more complex then that. Economics call it "game theory". The Strategy of "playing hard to get" works to weed out those who are serious and those who are not, but it's only effective when you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 01:38 AM
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Is it really lying thou? So if there's not much you can do about it, why fuss about when RP relapses? I found that the BP just hate the RP label, but when it happens outside the context of RP, it's "just life" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 02:13 AM
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People also change for many other reasons thou, and people also can continue to change and grow as an individual . I'm not sure what's your take here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 01:51 AM
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and one is to assume that the other member of the party would not end the relationship if the male fail to maintain said performance? That's very off-putting to presume that the female have zero ability to leave once relationship have been established.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 12:34 AM
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Feminism, especially radical feminism, sees gender roles as repressive and misogynistic because it limits what they can do as compared to the male. However often times they are mute regarding masculine gender roles that benefits the female. This goes from simple stuff like paying for first date, first to initiate interest, to military drafts, and the often feminist article that say "modern male must do X". Another big part of feminist hating gender roles is that it liberating them from their res…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 04:26 PM
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The problem is that BP often accused RP of not being authentic and not being true to themselves because their drive for self improvement is themselves putting on an act to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 04:20 PM
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Like what? Can you be more specific? Relevant link https://old.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/gssixt/young_men_are_massively_discriminated_against_in/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 07:04 PM
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Like holy fuck. Did your post not just tell us that sense of humor, personality and fitness don't matter and that it's all about looks? Those are checkpoints for men to get access to girls. If you aren't good looking, you won't have a chance to display your humor and personality. Also fitness is part of being good looking and well being that OP preaches. Also: Women don't care about your fitness whatsoever. You can be a marathon runner and not a single woman will care whatsoever about your skinn…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 05:19 PM
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that's saying a lot of if a debate is devoid from reality lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 06:16 PM
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That's my point exactly thanks, but also take into account that Male football is an established spectator sport and therefore it follows that it would have more followers and more sponsors, which is expected to generate more revenue.. and therefore more pay for its talent. Female accountants compete on an even playing field with male accountants, so it's reasonable to expect pay equity. They are and they do. The original wage gap study only took the average between working men and working women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:23 PM
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There are many angles on which to tackle this: There are instances in which certain gender have advantage or be disadvantage. Certain people are born more privileged then others. The problem is that this goes against the left's narrative that the genders and everyone should be equal. And they use "equality" to push certain agendas that often favors the female and their support base. When the same argument for equality is used against them, they'll argue for the tit and tat strategy and saying th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:53 PM
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I'll need to look at the data, but logic would say that if the population increase and male and female population keeps the same proportion of population.... increase amount of females enrollment rate means that as a proportion, male is falling behind... or to demonstrate in numbers as per example: 50/100 male and 25/100 females goes to university in 1980 60/150 male and 75/150 females goes to university in 2000 You can say that yes more male are still going to college, but male are still fallin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:09 PM
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What is true is that a higher proportion of college degrees are going to women today. If you look at the data, you’ll see that enrollment rates have risen steadily over the years, but the number of women enrolling in college has skyrocketed compared to men Does this take account of the general increase of population over time? If you agree that the educational system is hostile toward boys and men, is that because you personally experienced or witnessed that hostility? Can you share some of your…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:04 PM
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Funny OP is trying to fish for men answering to not block and give dudes a chance. Reality is that most men and some women are telling OP to block or at least leave. Men who've internalized RP knows RMV/SMV is just that...a market place and ppl don't get mad if a transaction doesn't happen. Now flip the gender around and you'll have BPers flipping out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 10:55 AM
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What about other women issues like the wage gap? Rape culture? Lack of female CEO? Air conditioning?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 10:43 AM
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consent, but not just verbal consent. Except that people flip our because she didn't verbally consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:37 PM
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Disclaimer.. I don't live in the states, but just to point out that your previous statement here is wrong: "As far as I can see there are 100 thousand people dead in the US due to Corona. Nowhere in Europe is it that bad. Your healthcare system is pathetic and you are completely deluded." https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/gq77r4/the_level_of_student_debt_a_girl_has_should_be/frrtctk/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 07:02 PM
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Sure as you wish: https://www.statista.com/chart/21170/coronavirus-death-rate-worldwide/ Looks like Italy did beat US per 100,000 when it comes to mortality rate. Do you want to keep pushing the goal line further?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 06:22 PM
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https://www.statista.com/chart/21176/covid-19-infection-density-in-countries-most-total-cases/ Sure Italy didn't, but looks like Spain and Belgium have it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:11 PM
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Think Italy got hit worse then US.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:33 PM
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Putting your hands on your ears , ignoning what ppl say while making false claim about what RP stands for isn't "knocking down point" but whatever...it's not like the stuff you accused RP of : ie not being true self, saying they are actually miserable, and that they use non sjw language, etc is anything origional anyways... lol just scroll back a year or so and other RP user also respond to your points as well.. with answer similar to mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:14 AM
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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/men-are-afraid-to-mentor-female-colleagues-in-the-metoo-era-heres-what-not-to-do-2019-05-20
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:41 AM
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https://news.trust.org/item/20190517163433-9kstx/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:29 AM
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If you're not being yourself, are you being honest in who you're being? You're the one attaching labels like 'loser', not me. What makes one a 'loser'? Labels like loser are generated when you have an external locus of control and when you don't love yourself. You measure your worth as a person in relation to others, whether it be how much you're having sex compared to someone else, to how much money you have compared to someone else, to what material things you have to someone else. If you're i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 08:37 PM
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How on earth is that your takeaway from what I wrote? How is 'improving yourself for your own sake' anything like what you just said? because of your insistence that you have to be "yourself" lol, and the points below will address that more in detail.. but basically again.. you keep insisting that RP is changing the individual and cater to women... and that's not what RP is... stop attacking the strawmen. I would contest that you're going to be your best self following the RP script, but yes, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 12:31 PM
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RP teaches you to change yourself for the sake of what women want. Or at least what RP thinks they want. That is literally an external locus of control. So according to you, if you are a born loser, you'll have to "be true to yourself" and continue to be a true loser and pray women will date a loser? RP teaches people to be the best version of themselves and not just change their way just to cater to women... again I don't think you understand what RP is. RP doesn't teach you that women are good…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 10:40 AM
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Uh nope. For someone claiming to have an econ degree you really are lacking in understanding in what behavior economics is. As you are not only dead set in the old school though of economics, but also wrong. You clearly don't get that people are not rational but irrational. Curious, because I don't think I've stated anything regarding my economics degree in this thread, and I didn't mention anything about behavioral economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:21 PM
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Economics is the study of how resources are allocated and the exchange of goods and services between rational agents... the problem you see in the current economy is that, despite rational people, they do not have perfect information nor could they predict the future. There has been no precedence of the current pandemic in the history of human kind. Also such view suffers from hindsight bias because these individuals are behaving rationally with what information they have at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 02:09 PM
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That's not utility. Utility is a term in economics that refers to the total satisfaction received from consuming a good or service. Economic theories based on rational choice usually assume that consumers will strive to maximize their utility. The economic utility of a good or service is important to understand, because it directly influences the demand, and therefore price, of that good or service. In practice, a consumer's utility is impossible to measure and quantify. However, some economists…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:34 AM
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Internal locus of control. When you improve yourself, do it for your own sake, not for the sake of others. An internal locus of control helps you better deal with failure and adversity, as well as self esteem. 2) The default position should be treating romantic prospects as good faith actors. Relationships are built on trust. If you can't trust women (or men) to be honest, it's never going to succeed. 3) Be honest with yourself, and others. What is it you want out of a relationship? Be honest ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:15 AM
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Because I'm not playing for a 'team' here looking to score points. I'm trying to get anyone that does this to realize that it's not a useful behavior if the desired result is a healthy relationship. That kind of message ain't gender specific. That's cool and we are in agreement then. Before we go down this rabbit hole, would you mind quoting me where I've shared a dating strategy? Like, my exact words. https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/gov98k/using_the_language_and_terminology_o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:12 AM
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I think the point is that you are arguing with something that RP is not. For example saying men deserves girls after filling out a stamp card is a very nice guy mentality and certainly not RP's way of thinking. Also most rp doesn't check their balance with female in black and red either, as least it's not view in that way. It's more of a "if i'm not getting anything here, i'll bail" mentality... but certainly not a ledger... if you want to present your argument that way you might as well talk to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:46 AM
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I specifically mean the kind of dehumanizing terms they're talked about in. And, as per my edit, men are sometimes spoken of in a dehumanizing way too, this is also not ok. Sure, so what you are saying is that both sides doing mean things are not okay. I fail to see why you are bring it up if both sides are doing it thou. Whats the draw to share what we think is right, if not for the conviction that we believe we are right? Conviction without introspection is dangerous, agreed. That's a large pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:32 AM
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We certainly try to be. To hear some people talk about women though, you'd think half the population are simply slaves to their own whims. We are in a sub that discuss relationship and dating strategy, and it'l be a surprise if women wasn't talked about. Again the problem is that you are mixing up incels and RP, and fall into the "all men" trap. Also we are in a debate sub, so yes we should be logical, or the point of being in a debate is useless. Do you think it's wrong for someone to have enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:44 AM
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I mean, as far as rejection goes, why not just ask? I was rejected a lot in dating. I asked sometimes why, and I'd get different answers. All it taught me was that people aren't puzzle boxes that'll open to some universal key, and every woman is different, even if there are some commonalities most of them have. TRP is the answer, and the commonalities is that a male who seeks to have a successful dating life should increase their SMV. And that answer certain beats any convoluted answer and often…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:30 AM
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I don't have all the answers. If I did, I would have just put it in the OP. I think that people are messy, emotional creatures, and we can't simply remove that. Humans are logical, self-optimizing creatures, or else progress won't exist and we are nothing but beast that are slave to our whims. And any attempts at trying to are gonna backfire eventually Disagree, and heard that being used against RP multiple times. at the end of the day people live with different moral codes and ideals and it's h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:13 AM
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Maybe we start with allowing that there is a human element that eludes boxing in in pure terms of economics, and that things like the 'SMP' aren't literal markets where people are bought, sold and traded for utility, and is just a crude expression for the intricacies of romantic interaction. So no logical explanation then. I'll say it's more painful If someone rejected me and there's no explaination why that's the case, because that means reasoning as to why a person is rejected, and one must be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 05:50 AM
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I mean, I thought I explained it pretty well in the OP, but I'll give it another shot here. Can we agree that often times, people use economic terms in this sub to try and model dating behavior? Agreed. If yes, can we also agree that many people seem to be upset at the other party for things like 'not realizing their own value' or 'wanting more than their own value' or 'having to put in work for sex, where it was given freely to someone else'? It's way more then that, but the view of RP is to in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 05:44 AM
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And what's the alternative method of describing romantic relationship in today's world?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 05:27 AM
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Can you be more precise on what you classified as "wrong thing"? And why they seemed wrong to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 05:24 AM
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Except hormones do respond to utility... people seek joy and avoid pain. And agreed that no one would fall in love with a loser, at least a girl would never date anyone who she identify as a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 05:18 AM
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Not sure if this example counts: Start of university year one out of town, started talking with a few people (both male and female) because we are all freshmen. Know this girl who was dating another guy at the time (both of them international students studying abroad), but since we shared a few classes and lived in the same dorm, she would offer me a ride back to campus. (it's kinda strange really considering the BF was also in the same program as us and I don't remember if he was in the same cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:09 PM
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Except sex , or at least intimacy, is a big part of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:29 AM
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Post the same question in /r/deadbedroom and 100% of the posters there (both male and female) would say yes, but in PPD the female left doesn't agree because once again it goes against the female worshipping narriative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:28 AM
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equilibrium means where supply meet demands and both party close the deal and exchange their goods and services. If a women rides the CC and then complain that she can't find a decent men... it mean not deals have been reached and so no equilibrium have been established.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 01:19 AM
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they genuinely believe a woman gets "mileage" from being "used up" and so on. It is genuinely run by angry, bitter men who project their romantic failures into hatred for women Think we have our own discussion regarding women's N-count daily here on PPD. They vilify every single mom on dating apps Again the topic of single mothers often comes up on PPD as well. From what I've gather, /r/wherearethegoodmen 's view on single mothers is that they often include the line "my children comes first" whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 10:57 PM
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Not seeing what you are trying to point out... at least not on most upvoted comment... what i'm seeing is these posters point out the unrealistic expectations whiling pointing out these girls on tinder profile brings nothing to the table, which still requires a few logic steps to say they are revenge fantasies. You'll need to be more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 10:10 PM
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I think we are describing two different things here, but yes I agree that incels have a very immature and skewed view on women that's often not healthy. However there are questions and facts which are presented that doesn't view favorably to women, and when these facts and questions are presented, the women often gets defensive and start labeling the people that presents these things as incels. 1) there's no a healthy way or does anything to further the discussion... poisoning the well so to spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 09:11 PM
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I dunno, but the recent post on there are exactly the kind of things that i expected on the sub... for example off the top three post on that sub just now: https://old.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/gmlzus/33_and_offering_nothing_except_complaints/ https://old.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/glz3oy/single_moms_mad_because_a_man_put_no_single_moms/ https://old.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/gmp8od/shouldnt_you_have_a_problem_with_that_extended/ The way they t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 08:36 PM
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What is that subreddit awful consider they are pulling live examples of low value women with over the top standards for male companionship on tinder and other dating sites?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 08:03 PM
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I don’t think women should make fun of male virgins but I also think male virgins are in no position to post ‘insight’ into how to interact with women when they have little to no experience with them. And they often do in the manosphere, which in turn invites them to be shamed by women and men for that matter. No. I was refereing to how women shame men by saying they are virgins (and now incels) whenever they said something that doesn't align with the female narrative. I do agree thou that male …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 08:00 PM
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I'm perfectly fine with the view that a HVM might night have a high N-count for one reason or another. That does have implications for those women who make fun of men for being virgins thou. There focus here is the difference between high N-count men vs High N-count women, and it seems we are in agreement with the view that they should be viewed different, mainly the old axiom "a key that can open all doors is the masterkey, while the lock that can be opened by any key is a shitty lock."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 03:58 PM
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The reality is most people are looking for dating and relationships that benefit them. There’s nothing wrong with that. That's fair enough. But let’s be real and acknowledge that TRP strategies also are only to their benefit. She has to submit to his frame and ideally be able to be molded into what he wants and all that stuff. Kinda. The flaw of the "let's view the gender in reverse" scenario is that the genders does have different expectations and their situations are different, which is contra…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 01:16 PM
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I would also say it's a valud criticism except for the fact that TRP teaches men to have their shit together and increse their SMV... which is still something women found desirable in men. FDS teaches women to only benefit themselves and does nothing to make themselves more attractive and desirable to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 11:42 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_headquarters_shooting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 05:40 PM
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You know very well that up to recent modern history, cultures that gets conquered gets wiped out right? Hittites, Sillas, most of what the Mongolians conquered during their invasion. There were even cultures in the Americans that have risen and fallen even before Colonialism plays out: Olmec, People in the Mississippi valley, Clovis, etc. You are assuming that culture extinction is caused by white culture, when in reality cultures and people wiped each other out or assimilate each other througho…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:09 PM
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nothing great and I'm not white, but all cultures have the right to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:26 PM
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Except Capital isn't freely being moved between countries at will, just some first world countries, and not even China, Middle east, or African Countries. Also Large Capital flows are regulated (you are even limited to bring in 10k, or have to report when traveling), as well as allow only certain % of foreign investments, especially in sensitive industries, and finally all large cash flows are checked against Anti-Terrorist and Money Laundering regulations. The "Capital is free to move between c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:24 PM
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Ok, so then what was all your bullshit about me looking at someone’s post history? In case you missed it: "I was on your side after I read the OP until i realized from your comments this was just another PSA for your repressed ideals about sex. I should have known." I never defended her and if you don’t stop blatantly lying and accusing me of saying things I never said I’m reporting you. I never said you did. I'm asking you if would would like to defend her actions. Edit: See if we are actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:43 AM
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Ok let’s see. you just accused me of going through someone else’s post history. So then YOU go through MY post history, and take a comment that wasn’t addressed to you and completely misrepresent it? Except that comment was in this thread and part of this conversation chain. Permalink for grade A goodness. https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/gjfsie/absolutely_beautiful_gem_from_rsex_overheard_my/fql6acq/ I’m sorry did I hurt your feelings during purge week or something? Is that wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:33 AM
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What are you talking about? Whose post history did I go through? poppy_Blu "I was on your side after I read the OP until i realized from your comments this was just another PSA for your repressed ideals about sex. I should have known." This. Not high. Just extremely angry now at your arrogance and your shitty attitude, but I expected no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:13 AM
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Or how about if you want to post in this thread, stick to what ppl said in this thread instead of going through his post history? Lol what hypocrisy. How is it not projection? How about how is it projection?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:06 AM
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You didn't but i'm drawing parallel to the typical PPD conversation and the general FDS attitude about how male should handle female's sexual history lol. What you implied is much worse... when male find evidence of anything that goes against the female narriative.. you go back to the poster's history and suggest it's all male whinning .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:00 AM
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Just sick and tired of you defaulting to "projecting" every time, and no i've comprendend you fully; giving the info from op, most male would be wary about op's gf and her sexual history. It's a giant red flag. Saying that a men who tolerate his gf from saying such things opening is akin to women saying "he's not man enough to handle me"...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:55 AM
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So talking to your friends about your partner's intimate detail and small penis size is "respectful"? Lol.. also the "peojecting" defense ws so old and overused. It's blatantly obvious op's gf doesn't respect him and you just don't like the implication where this conversation leads to... or any conversation where a women doesn't look good lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:45 AM
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My point is that we only have ops words and he didn't give info one way or another. What you are trying to use as a defense has no way to validate or invalidate... i call that a red herring. As to her having a very casual attittude about sex... having a conversation about your current sex satifaction and talking about your ex's dick size loud enough to be within earshot of your bf is a pretty low bar when it comes to openness about sex imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:31 AM
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The view point is limited but we can only gleaned that she is at least very opened snd have a casual attitude about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:25 AM
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It's not really Hypocrisy: My view on BDSM/Violent Porn is basically consent, and FDS is all about putting women on the pedestal so they can be build a relationship with imbalance of power. Only simps and cucks will fall and tolerate this. A healthy relationship is build on trust and mutual respect and I see no evidence of FDS promoting anything remotely close. It's not the fact that FDS won't accept BDSM or violent sexual fantasies as toxic, but the view that women has to be on top of the relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:38 PM
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Good thing it'll be up to the Mods to decide what's considered incel views and not by people who uses the term Incel to attack or shut down anyone that gets triggered by not agreeing with certain agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 04:42 PM
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Link to said sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 05:26 AM
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ITT: people from the left doesn't understand what equality is lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:05 AM
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/r/pcmasterrace
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:55 PM
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Lol You are still dodging the fact that the left embrace feminism so much they can't talk about male being protrayed as vicitims without hurting their narriative. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:37 AM
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If i didn't make myself clear in the last post here it is again.. the reason why it's poinless to discuss with the left is that the left IS part of the problem. Their platform have zero room for anything that doesn't support their agenda... and your last sentence is ironic considering how the left have been playing the "who had it harder game" for the longest time... wage gap, gender inequality, racial inequality, etc lol but it only wanted to stop when it's not their franchise group that's now …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:30 AM
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The "solution" can't exist in a left leaning narriative lol that's the problem. It'll mean having to admit men are vunerable, except in the leftist narriative female are the vulnerable gender lol. So when the left talks about "solutions for male problems" it'll always end up saying female have it worse lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:20 AM
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The left love "discussion" but provides no solutions lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:18 AM
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Lol and here's the key: language... but dive deep into the context it's all the same.. the left loves playing the language game because they can hide their ill intent behind words but once again... deeper discussion reveal their true ugliness and their hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:42 AM
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Most mgtows are divorced men who got burned in divorced hearings, most rp just want to know how to hear dating stragety that actually not detrimental to men... only the vocal few promote violence against women... see how i can also play the narriative game here lol what a joke. The reality here is fds isn't quarantined and women can boardly talking about dating stragety that benefit them while men can't, and shutting down male space means they can't talk about male stuff ... and then feminist li…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:31 AM
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When i mean "by your standard" i meant it... cuz fds is all about scamming betas off their money and teaches women to abuse men and play with their emotions lol. Are you still blind from the double standards now that i've just pointed it out to you lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:21 AM
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By the very same standard, redpill , mgtow is here to support men... but feminist hates them lol. Why do you have to be such misandrists?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:13 AM
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Lol except feminism and especially the regulars here in PPD doesn't stop at rape... for example the regular talking point on PPD talks about spousal abuse and being used by chad. So why don't women support each other by preventing their fellow sisters from racking up their n count and better select their husbands lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:09 AM
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Imagine the genders being reversed in the same question and you'll be called a misogynist. Once again the double standard of feminism rear it's ugly head. Women blame men and expect them to solve women's problems but men are told to solve their own problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:00 AM
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The answer: just look at the typical feminist blogs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:36 PM
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TRP has occasionally taken some of their ideas a big extreme. The reality is that those that find 18-24 year olds attractive are probably around the 28-20 range. One can come to that conclusion because those that talks about picking up 18-24 year olds talks about how they meet them at bars and clubs. By the time you hit 30, clubbing might be a bit too old for you. The truth here is twofold: 1. Men usually prefer women that's younger then them 2. The wall is a thing, (at least biologically, as wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:16 PM
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At the end of the day, I think good men just want a woman who was there for them in their critical period. And they want to be able to be there for her during her critical period as well. I'll go even further then then that: 1) men just want a woman who was there for them in their critical period. 2) women just want a man who was there for them in their critical period. The problem is for most women, their critical year (at least biologically) is not in their 30s. For most men in their 30s, thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:26 PM
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The main problem here is (and i believe the reason why PPD doesn't allow incel content before) was that that incels are not a sexual strategy and dating, but just a bunch of people that can't get dates and sex. Incels whines and feminist respond and suddenly relate every post to inceldom because that's the lower hanging fruit. Also Red Pill isn't dead, it's lacking fresh content because their strategy is very simple... be a better person and actually have a strategy when it comes to dating. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:04 PM
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Men don't like sluts, but like women with "slutty" side.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 03:33 PM
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Recently there was a post about how "women rape men as much as the opposite". I wouldn't say that's true. As much as I'm on team red, women gets raped more then men. FBI's definition of "rape" is "made to penetrate" and since women can't penetrate men... women can't literally rape men in the criminal sense. However the problem begins when the left expand the definition of "rape" as anything that can be interpreted as unwanted sexual approach. Then suddenly the reported numbers became much closer…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 04:27 PM
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This is basically the problem when discussing mostly anything on this sub. Things are basically taken to the extreme by saying all X are Y. If it's true that women loves opportunistically, and men just falls for a women that was projected in their head... then any long term relationship are doomed to fail. Except while there's cases where relationship fails due to these things... a successful relationship means that men loves women for who she is, and women are devoted to their significant other…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:08 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 02:28 PM
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This is getting too crazy. I already explained this. Care to repost then? I think your response is unclear. but you're insisting on digressing first into faulty studies, then domestic abuse, then into domestic emotional abuse and emotionally scrambled celebrities, Why is the study faulty? Also isn't the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard a domestic abuse case? even though the prison topic was your choice. Example. I've been talking about male physical strength as a reason for longer prison sentences Prison…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 01:54 PM
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Humans still exist. Yes, but objective people are a rare case, as people are often prone to biases. You need to ask someone who says these examples are misogynistic or biased. Considering that the examples i linked are "relationship advice for women", i don't think they are misogynistic lol. It's also erroneous to assume's people position... you examine "what" they say, not "who". No one is complaining about advice catering to men. Not unless it's biased. Did you post this in the right place? I …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 01:41 PM
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Hello? I didn't "just dismiss" the advice as bad, I explained my reasons point-by-point, my major point being that if it was an RP truth, it wasn't a RL truth. And my counter-point again is "why is the advice bad if it's telling men to be self-interested, especially when it comes to relationship with women?" Perhaps if you would address the question, we can move on with the disucssion. My point here is that the "social narrative" that you seem to think is so poisonous is as likely to be based on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 12:59 PM
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There are LOTS of objective men and women. Citation needed. Why would you want biased advice anyway, even if it was biased in your favor? It would still be bad advice. I won't say men's advise is bias for men, but rather advice catered to men. For example women's slogan is often "women power", "don't need no man", etc... but if you swap the genders around and talk about "men power" and "don't need no women"... it's suddenly misogyny. Why is that? Also here's a list of women's advice I found http…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 12:05 PM
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Males are bigger and stronger than at least 50% of the population and generally speaking, by the age of 15. They're more aggressive and defiant and naturally less respectful of authority. They're less cooperative. This translates into a greater potential to be dangerous. And AFAIK, men don't spend nearly the amount of time caring for children that women do. They don't have the interest or the experience that women have, as demonstrated by time spent caring prior to divorce. Thanks for pointing o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:13 AM
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Come on. I said I've never heard anyone say they believe women are wonderful or the Hollywood version of romance. You don't have to hear the effect to see it fully in effect in society. For example: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742, this is just one example of course... the women are wonderful effect also applies to custody where women are seen as better at rearing children then men... the list can go on and on... or the whole entire premise of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 06:38 PM
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I can no longer tell if you are being serious or not.. considering you were raging at the 1% a few post ago, but now mocking someone who has a 99% job, or the fact that you are trying to mocking someone who's still working to provide services to society undergoing a pandemic. The left showing its true color I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 06:00 PM
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I disagree. I've never heard anyone say they believe this about women. In fact, the only people I've ever heard say that other people do are men (mostly) who are already very angry and negative toward women. You never heard of the women are wonderful effect? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect As to "oneitis", the word itself tells that it's not about women in general. "One" + "itis". And telling a man who may be just lucky enough to have found someone who REALLY suits him t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 05:09 PM
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There’s also a ton of stuff about how all women are sluts, they all lie and cheat, they’re all shallow and dumb as a bag of bricks, etc. There's actually different pheromone at play here.. 1) From what I've read and more to RP language here... it's more like how women are promiscuous, they have the potential to monkey branch... the key here is "potential" and explanation of women's logic behind their behaviors. It's definitely not as simple as "all women are sluts, they all lie and cheat" and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:58 PM
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I believe the problem all begins when reddit shutdown /r/incel and its population base flooded the other malespace of reddit. Also of note that RP, MRA, and MGTOW doesn't exist on reddit alone and you'll find a more healthy discussion on places like youtube. Also places like /r/MGTOW2 does exist and it's quite heavy-handed when the discussion turns to something that sounds like incel tears lol. Well, leftists have different ideas and beliefs too and there are plenty of people who contradict each…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:16 PM
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It has some theories and has people who have developed it, but most red pillers themselves have their own ideas. I believe that's very important as it demonstrate that RP, unlike the left, isn't an ideological monolith. It allow debates and diversity of beliefs and room for people to co-exist despite their difference of opinion and beliefs. Also to note that RP is a recent pheromone. One could say the same thing about feminism and feminism is an older social movement. and a lot of them concentra…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:23 PM
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First it's not "negative" but rather to view women as humans beings and not to be worshiped on a pedestal. You can find example of this in RP's teaching regarding Oneitis and "women are wonderful effect". It's only view as a negative because it goes against the belief of society where they do believe that women are wonderful and hollywood's portrayal about romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:11 PM
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I think that blue pill is just a body of opinions. It is just everything that contradicts the red pill in general, so there are people with different views and these views often can be contradictory. And that's also one of its major criticism: it's basically an armchair critic that offers no alternative or solutions to male of this generation that seeks to navigate the gender dynamics of this generation. Their contradictory views just means that, as a collective, their views are against logic, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:07 PM
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The point is to treat women like how women treat men: disposal, manipulable, and be opportunistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:01 PM
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Self-improvement doesn't comes in a vacuum. People need to self-actualization to seek and know in which area they need to self-improve. The self-actualization the the part where it goes against the BP narrative, and that's the major road block for RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:58 PM
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Everyone is stuck in some low paying profession? Are you speaking for yourself? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 08:58 AM
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Lol that's why i look at facts.. and no opinions. A reasonable debate and logical argument uses facts to verify their observation instead of moving the discussion and changing the narriative, as you have just demonstrated lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 07:32 PM
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If you've all missed it - "Journalism – 88% Liberal". Conservatives are hard-pressed to find articles which isn't left-leaning or bias considered that Journalism and most of the social sciences are predominately Liberal, lol. So we have to make do with what we have, and if possible go back to the raw data and interpret it without a leftist lense. it's a blessing thou that the narrative of the left touting their horns too much goes against their victimhood narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:06 PM
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Dude, no. Why put surgeons on the list so many times? Guess what, it’s because they lean conservative but overall physicians lean liberal. Do you get how that creates an unfair bias to you and makes it seem like all physicians are probably conservative? Are you asking the source, or are you asking me? Also you are welcome to counter with a source which you believe are less bias. Also Ironic.. consider that you believe that breaking up medical services with different categories (ie surgeons and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 03:58 PM
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Lol, if I say that the typical liberals are (including students), then that means they are enrolled an in educational institution right? liberals are uneducated or universities are liberal factories run by liberals? Again, can you look past your political lens and read what I've actually posted? People who are educated can be in low wages jobs. You should know overall liberals are more educated and that is a fact not an opinion, please feel free to google it. Where did I stated otherwise, and wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 02:39 PM
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1) I’m on neither side The Tone of your original response suggested otherwise. On the other hand I can say that I'm on neither side because I'm not even American. 2) The original statement was about this impacting liberals more than conservatives. Someone mentioned liberals we working more non essential jobs. If you want the truth... it affect different people in different ways. (Some people lost their jobs, Others work from home, some like doctors, essential services, groceries have to work har…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:47 PM
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This is so dumb This is call narrative. Both sides wants to portray negative aspects of their supporters, among other things. It's just bad when it's done to your sided... as you've just demonstrated below. Plenty of uneducated poor conservatives There are definitely plenty of uneducated poor conservatives.. as demonstrated when Trump won the rust belt. When did I say, or even give off the impression that I've stated the contrary? lol someone have to be doing the low wage jobs right now, and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:10 PM
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And doctors, scientists also tend to be quite rare. The typical liberals are struggling artists, students and ppl struggling in low wage jobs hoping for "equality" to give them "their fair share" thou
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 08:52 AM
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Because there's more to life then just finding a women? And before you or anyone said anything said anything about western men being desperate... I'm an Chinese men born in Hong Kong, and have dual citizenship as a result. It won't be hard for me to move back because I also know the language and have relatives there, and dating is confirmed to be much easier then in the country where I was in now. RP has it right that the attitude of western females are very different then those in other more tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 02:58 AM
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something i find funny is when guys paint the women who post here as like evil harpies who don't care about incels or men. The problem is that men, or any gender, is not an ideological monolith. Too often in this sub and otherwise I see too much tribalism at play... whether it's men vs women, left vs right, rich vs poor. I'm also not seeing how women are painted as evil harpies, even if they don't care about incel or men. The reality is that people should be responsible for their own well-being …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 10:47 PM
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This is purely hypothetical. If all women could be killed off and replaced with realistic robots designed to please men and artificial wombs, do you think such a society would be better or worse? Blowup dolls and sex robots are already in place, same with VR dating Sims. Artificial wombs are more for the purposes of continuing human civilization... and since neither gender would take care of them, they would be raised by the government... that has a very Utopia/Dystonia feel to it. Also same opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 09:56 PM
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You cannot talk about now without talking about those past movements. The feminist movement 60 years ago and the feminist movement today are different, evolving movements. I don't understand your point on that. The point is that 60 years ago is two generations. The problem regarding single parenthood is now and a previous generation prior. Today's women and women a generation ago is not subjected as much to the same problems of having to marry a men to obtain economical stability, at least not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 09:04 PM
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I flaired this question for men because a lot of men seem very bothered by the fact that not many women care much about men's sexual struggles. Not one of these people. I have to wonder- what do you think "caring" about that entails? What would you like women to do? Say "aww man, that sucks"? Spread awareness for the group (the 'poor men who can't get laid')? Post "tits out for the sexless" on their Facebook timelines? Encourage their female peers to take one for the team? Take one for the team …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:11 PM
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Sounds like a lot of narrative, and I can only provide counterpoint with antidotical evidence: Most of my friends are married and have kids. Both parents are working but the husband is actively participating in the life of their child, including diaper duty and bedtime stories, and also sports, and babysitting so that the wife can get some alone time and attend social events. I do believe thou it is a culture thing, and furthermore because the previous generation of fathers doesn't share childre…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 06:37 PM
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I think at this point, the discussion has moved beyond the scope of this thread. We can both agree that people suffer under abusive spouses... I suggest people should vet and be choosy, you suggest not to trust any male at all, and that's your choice. I can keep posting about the consequences of male choosing the wrong mate too (divorce rape, husband got their kids taken away and not being able to see their kids, etc) but I'm not interested in a pity party.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:29 PM
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You are remembering that women did not have as many choices to leave even 50 years ago, right? It's not the problem of the feminist social movement. It wasn't that women made begger choices before. They didn't really have a choice before and children weren't better off for it. I believe my post is about the current situation and not context in the previous generation... and certainly female should have equal rights, including the right to divorce and leave their spouse... my criticism on this th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:25 PM
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1) I would not say that it's easy to discern between an abuser or vet against people who are not ideal spouses. This is why there's so many heartbreaks... whether its abuse/cheating spouse/dead bedrooms. Also said problem applies to both genders, as most male have problem distinguishing between women with high N-count, cheaters, abusers (Amber Herd/ Johnny Depp is a great example of this), or golddiggers. Also to elaborate on my previous point... your study is basically a comparison between male…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:19 PM
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I don't pretend to tell how you should live your life, you are more then welcome to (in all caps) shun all men. However I found that scientific studies can provide contradictory results.. which is why I often suggest to read the definition, scope, and sources of said study... for example: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150403095927.htm Men, relative to women, show a stronger preference for utilitarian over deontological judgments, according to a new meta-analysis of 40 studies. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:02 PM
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Again, that's why I don't agree with incels, and that's also why in my previous post that I suggest women to be picky about who these choose to be with, and furthermore men shouldn't be angry about it. Please kindly re-read what I've posted again. Women need to shun men en masse THAT would be effective "avoiding deceitful people". You are making the basic assumption that most men are deceitful... that's quite a position to stand on. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 04:30 PM
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Again... the importance of vetting and mate selection. It's a very naive mentality to assume that people don't lie or cheat, or that just because people do, it removes the self-responsibility to avoid deceitful people. Caveat emptor. If you received an email about Nigerian prince asking your bank account info so they can move some money and gave you a cut... and you lost all your cash in your account... who's fault would that be ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 04:24 PM
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I'll just post the link and let other readers decide if a society with endless resource is a good idea, and if any of this sounds familiar with current society: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-mouse-utopias-1960s-led-grim-predictions-humans-180954423/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 04:16 PM
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I agree with and it's actually important that people get out abusive relationship for the safety of their offspring as well as themselves... However the point still stands that the female's mate selection was poor to begin with, which goes back to my original point. it definitely says a lot about traditionalism. Also from a male perspective, it's important to understand why women shit-test, vet their mate, and desire the top 20% of male, and even monkey-branch... because women have that option a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 03:53 PM
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I believe the here here is more like "horse before the cart" - people require resources to get married, and marriage to have kids. However with the sexual liberation movement comes the single parenthood... which means people are having kids without the social and economical support to properly raise them. It takes resources and mental maturity to have a family and raise kids, and currently we have a generation of people who skipped the steps and now that generation and the next are suffering the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 03:36 PM
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The narrative about single mothers is more of a a social issues: Children who grew up n single parent family are more "ikely to be abused, have emotional problems, engage in questionable behavior, struggle academically, and become delinquent.4) Problems with children from fatherless families can continue into adulthood. These children are three times more likely to end up in jail by the time they reach age 30 than are children raised in intact families, and5) have the highest rates of incarcerat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 01:29 PM
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Then you should at least respond with what was said on the post .. cuz i have no clue what response and quote you were refering too lol.. Also note that my origional response was posted this morning.. more then 7 hours ago... and apparantly your expectation was for me to respond to thing that was posted by others afterwards as if i'm a time traveler lol. Talk about dick move right lol what a joke. Edit: btw you still haven't proved any evidence as to why i was wrong lol... someone's clearly tryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:25 AM
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Do you not understand how logic works? If you want to prove someone wrong you should at least demonstrate the logic and facts ... and no "scroll down the thread genius" is by no means helpful or demonstate anything lol. How about you just cool down and take a 5 minute break from reddit to think about what you've said instead lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:10 AM
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With all due respect I am respond to op's question and not to the thread itself... op is saying 30% of male didn't get laid doesn't mean 30% male tried to get laid and failed. Do you understad how posting and responding works?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:05 AM
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As defined ages ago in this sub.. BP is everything that's non redpill... not mainstream And lol your first responses what that my statement was shared by redpill and incel... and now you are saying that it isn't demonstrated by reality... instread of elaborating in your origional response that you believe that what rp and incel observe isn't reality in the first place See what you are doing is call moat and bailey... too scare to put your position out frount in fear of having it attacked and onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:58 AM
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And everyone said 1+1=2 too, so again if i may ask you what's the point that you are trying to raise here? Because different groups can share similar observations about this world lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:48 AM
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And your point is? So a lot of ppl came to the same conclusion. Can you at least elobrate what's the point that you are trying to raise here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:44 AM
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The problem is that it's the BP's narrative that all men wants to get laid... it's even a meme for "Guys Literally Only Want One Thing And It's Fucking Disgusting".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:51 PM
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ITT: Op managed to pissed off both RP and BP... think that's a first in my books.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:28 AM
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The way I hear/see men talking about their sexual strategy (i.e throwing the dick at any and every vagina-like source) really makes me curious how they feel about it/themselves. Do you feel any shame? Pride? Are you just indifferent (“it is what it is”)? Do you think women should be more like this? Really depends on the circle of friends one have. I've been thru different social circles (throughout university, all-male high school, and various different office environments) and none of the sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:43 PM
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Most men don't have problem with women sleeping around in 20s and get married at 30s.. as long as they are not the one marrying her lol. Problem comes from the women side. They are the ones sleeping around in 20s and wondering were have all the good men gone in their 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:12 PM
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That's because r/thebluepill self-described themselves as a Satire sub, and use it as a deflection to any criticisms to anything they say or do. We see no intellectual gain discussing a sub that's tells people not to take themselves seriously, and takes no responsibility to anything they say. They do not offer solution to any discussion that is on this sub, but mocks those that tries to come up for a solution or offer answers, especially when its presented for and by a male perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:41 PM
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I think under your own logic... if 30-40% of these specific crimes are done by females... then the general female population should be responsible for solving 30-40% of it, No? lol But yes, prostitution is definitely close to 100% on the female to be resolved lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:04 PM
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Also Hilarious: there are female dominate crimes as well... such as prostitution, larceny-theft, fraud, forgery, and embezzlement. Aside from prostitution, female representation has been greatest for minor property crimes such as larceny-theft, fraud, forgery, and embezzlement. Female arrests for these crime categories has been as high as 30 to 40 percent, especially since the mid-1970s. The thefts and frauds committed by women typically involve shoplifting (larceny-theft), "bad checks" (forgery…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 05:55 PM
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Because my post is a rebuttal to men blaming women when the people they should be pissed at are some of their fellow men. A lot of men believe that most of the people perpetuating their issues are women. My rebuttal is that this is not actually the case; most of the people perpetuating these issues are men. That's what my concern is about. RP's response is that they should look inward and adapt to the changes in society and let those bad policies bite themselves in the ass. For example https://w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 05:48 PM
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I also added it this: And also so what if it's 9 out of 10 times it's male making these comments... the key here is that it's not 9 out of 10 males condoning these acts and the sentiment isn't shared by 9 out of 10 men... I think you should be more concern with how men generally feels, rather then most bad actors are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 05:31 PM
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Then sorry if it wasn't clear. I mean 9 out of 10 times when someone makes a downplaying comment it's a man. I do not mean that 9 out of 10 times when someone makes any comment it's a man making a downplaying comment. No... you've provided examples (reddit post) in which when a male is a victim is sexual abuse.. it's male making downplaying comment... I see one downplaying comment with 11 upvotes and the setup with 44 upvotes... the question to you is: How do you how it's a guy making these and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 05:28 PM
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You are misreading the post. I'm not talking about 9 of 10 times whenever someone comments on the story it's someone downplaying it. I'm talking about 9 of 10 times when someone explicitly downplays the issue it's a man doing it Your origional post in the OP. When women, especially attractive women, sexually assault men or boys, a lot of men would comment on how they feel the victim is "lucky" and that the whole ordeal isn't harmful. A female teacher does this to her student, a bunch of men come…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 05:19 PM
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I'll just link some FB posts to the comments: Again I don't have facebook, but even on reddit (which is typically left meaning) the response is very telling Top comment for https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/a7x8nv/these_facebook_comments_about_a_rape_case/ "It's insanely simple. Don't fuck kids. It doesn't matter if the person that fucked the kid is kinda hot. Even if the little dude loved every second of it, he's now in the middle of a life-ruining whirlwind that will likely e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 05:07 PM
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Because men and women aren't the same? Let's start with that. Do you how much of the Leftist and feminist agenda and ideology is based on the gospel that they preach that men and women are the same and should be treated the same? https://nypost.com/2015/12/27/unfireable-female-firefighter-returns-to-the-fdny/ https://theconversation.com/the-gender-pay-gap-for-the-fifa-world-cup-is-us-370-million-its-time-for-equity-118400 or the fact that they push for female equal representation and benefits at…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 04:47 PM
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Like lets use the example of male sexual assault. It's true that it's not as taken seriously as female sexual assault... but who are the people who don't take it seriously? Disagree. The point of contention here wasn't social aspect (whether society takes sexual assault seriously when it's female on male), but rather the bias and often lenient sentencing women get. Case in Point : https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/jun/27/montana-woman-with-machete-hides-behind-ex-boyfrie/ In which the ex-gf…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 03:21 PM
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No. The rules isn't different for non japanese men vs women.. but i fail to understand why you believe that's important and why one would continue to be stuck in the men vs women mindset. The fact is it's harder for japanese of any gender to marry foreigners due to japan's immigration policy... and that's a sufficient counterpoint. Once again I must remind you that i'm not interested in the victimhood Olympics between the genders. As to redpill men treating women better the native japanese men..…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 05:14 AM
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Yes. And not because they want to. The expectations for marrying and reproducing are stifling and merciless — for men as well as women —- because they are seen as societal obligations. Solution? Don’t get married/have kids Sure, but that doesn't just applied to Japanese culture, but its a global pheromone to begin with lol. I do agree thou that people should pursue what's best for themselves ... and if that mean not getting married/having kids so be it. Unfortunately and relating back to OP, I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:51 PM
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Uh, Japanese women are Japanese too? And they marry foreigners. In Japan. And live. In Japan. Actually no. Being Married in Japan doesn't mean you'll get Japanese citizenship... hence my previous statement on why Japanese immigration laws are strict. https://www.tokyoimmigration.jp/?p=165 But the disrespect and contempt a lot of Japanese guys display towards their spouses (didn’t see so much of this in dating) can be shocking when you come from the West. To a certain degree I believe Japanese me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:47 PM
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I don't have any info regarding this one way or another, but for such a broad claim to be made, some citation or info to backup is preferred. Also look at my other response in this thread. Traditionally women became stay at home wife after the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:21 PM
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Sure, but given Japan's strict immigration policy... what's the odds of finding a foreigner in Japan? Also traditional Japanese family tradition: Once a women married, she becomes a housewife and the husband gives all his salary to his wife and then ask for allowance back. You can guarantee that's not going to be how things goes when a Japanese women marries a foreigner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:18 PM
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The problem is that more then often enough, both sides of the argument implied to short terms happiness. 1) Incels not working on themselves to be desirable (short term complacency and sacrificing long term potential gains) 2) Women racking up high N-count, only to find themselves at the low end of the RMV and then asking where have all the good men gone. Because OP's post was so vague and open ended, I can only assume that it has to related to one if not both points on the above. So to answer m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 09:54 PM
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Add to the fact that people should be responsible for their own happiness, the problem is that these "happiness" should be long term and better their own lives instead of short term and fleeting ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 09:38 PM
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“If men aren’t kept happy, there will be dire consequences for women” or “women can’t have it all; they need to sacrifice some things for men’s sake” and even revere the idea of women being oppressed/kept down to the benefit of men. I think a) the quotes are taken out of context and and b) this turns the relationship between male and female into a zero-sum game, which I don't agree to be the case. a) “If men aren’t kept happy, there will be dire consequences for women” - I'll be straightforward …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 09:26 PM
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Change "getting laid" to "being desired" and you'll be spot on. Unfortunately what you are describing is only the symptom, and didn't dig deep enough for a solution. You could also say that poor people are complaining about rich people because they don't have money too, but that doesn't explore whether the views are justified, or how the wealth should be distributed toward society. At the end of the day RP offer a comprehensive view to this problem from a male perspective, and clear solutions. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:29 PM
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I just want to be very clear on a few things, and there's so much to take away from this: 1) Usually the female gender felt very attacked when exposed to this reality, because it goes against the idea that they can "have it all", i.e. successful career, good looks, romantic relationship, and family. a) And there are rare examples that this can be done. I know a former co-worker who's decent looking, worked her butt off from being a bank teller to a mortgage broker, married a guy who got 6-pack a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:17 PM
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The problem here is that feminist culture called it "intimidated", while in reality men describes it as just being "out of their league". That's the typical feminist/leftist tactic of just changing the terms of the conversation to control their narrative. It is very possible that some women could be "out of the league" for most men, but that presents the problem of female empowerment ... mainly women who improved themselves so much that no men is worthy of her. And here lies the double-speak of …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:42 PM
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In before feminist write article about Animal Crossing being misogynistic because it turned into a tool for males to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:58 AM
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That's not the only example in today's society. For example there's still huge pressure and expectation for men to approach first in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:20 PM
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another demonstration of "toxic masculinity" right there, attacking one's gender identity when confronted in an argument, especially when comprehension has nothing to do with one's gender... or did someone just suggested that one's gender can affect comprehension?... omg sexist!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:56 PM
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From Wikipedia: "The concept of toxic masculinity is used in academic and media discussions of masculinity to refer to certain cultural norms that are associated with harm to society and to men themselves. Traditional stereotypes of men as socially dominant, along with related traits such as misogyny and homophobia, can be considered "toxic" due in part to their promotion of violence, including sexual assault and domestic violence. The socialization of boys in patriarchal societies often normali…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:51 PM
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Perhaps you should read your original response again? Where are women supposed to learn it? Your question is like the entirety of male delusional complains right here. You seriously think that women are privileged because they somehow get this secret knowledge about how to take care of themselves, while in reality they just learn it. Nobody teaches them, we don't have mandatory attractiveness classes. Women just go out there and learn it, and so should men, instead of blaming the "western societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:48 PM
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It is whatever you say it is. That's the problem lol. Again thanks for the demonstration.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:47 PM
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Toxic masculinity is a feminist term that they can change on their own whimes at their own convenience to fit their own narrative. For example when an ugly guy approach a women it's sexual harassment, but for a handsome chad approach a women it's fine. That's all the education that male needs in terms of toxic masculinity lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:45 PM
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In my response to another poster here... the if the question was "where do men learn certain info", and the answer was "women have it rough too"... that's a victim-hood Olympics and the "introspection" doesn't answer the question or improve anybody lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:42 PM
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Disagree and thanks for demonstrating what toxic masculinity looks like, basically as a tool for feminist and the left to discourage certain male behaviors to further their agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:40 PM
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With a lot of saltiness and passive-aggressiveness no less. Perhaps you and OP would make a great pair lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:37 PM
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That wasn't so hard was it? lol. Could have just gave that answer without having me pulling at your teeth lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:28 PM
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Do you seriously think that when someone says "people" they mean men? I'm not sure what you are trying to point out or how it's relevant. OP didn't have "people" in his OP either. He in very good health complained about men not being able to learn how to be attractive, and demanded women open up about their secret conspiracy that helps women be attractive. 1) Lol he didn't demand. He asked a question. No words game here. and one could definately choose not to respond. 2) He didn't complained, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:25 PM
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He didn't ask "where do people learn to be attractive?", You mean he didn't post on OP in bold "where, when, and how are men supposed to get the clear message of what to do in Western society to get what they want?" he asked specifically women about specifically men and their failed education. If you didn't catch the slightly accusatory tone "it's unfair!" in OP, then I don't know what to tell ya I think you are projecting, but in a debate/discourse one should assume the question was asked in go…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:17 PM
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Your short reply was not very informative and definitely does not demonstrate your position and why you disagree. This is a debate and discourse sub... and certainly if I response with " I disagree on your disagree" would only decrease the quality of this sub. Please respond with something of substance next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:12 PM
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Again ... the question was "where do male learn to be attractive?" and the answer was "women have it rough too." You can think whatever you want, but as a male I don't think the answer was in any way helpful at all lol and one would still have no clue as to where to learn to be attractive with that response.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:07 PM
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Lol the question didn't even mention women... How does it even "implied that women learn it naturally"? lol, and so what if they did? Are women and men suppose to be different and experienced different things? Or did the narrative of the gender being equal have to applied to everything? lol You cannot ask a gendered question like that, and then wonder why gender was brought into this. Except that when the genders are reversed, men are told to go elsewhere and make their own thread. So go make yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:03 PM
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It's a free world and you can think whatever you want lol, but at the end of the day the response didn't really answer OP's question... lol Unless you "think" it did lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:59 PM
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The question was directed at women, but the question was not asking about "where women learn the correct way to be attractive". There's a distinct difference and let's not get it mixed up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:50 PM
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Lol, why bring up women in this conversation? OP didn't ask about the opposite gender, and I believe both male and women could have difficulties learning certain aspects on what could make them more attractive here. Perhaps if you are so interested in this topic you could start your own thread, but as it stands it seems off-topic, and sounds kinda butt-hurt lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:37 PM
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From positive male role models, but society has shut these down due to them being labeled as "toxic masculinity".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:34 PM
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On the Meta view, there are so many other examples one could draw for equivalence when it comes to situation on both side of the gender. For example: It's hard to find girls that enjoy video games/it's hard to find guy that like fat chicks. It's not impossible but the odds are stacked against you. Unfortunately when one tries to point out these equivalences, others are too quick to point out nuances and/or it turns into a pity competition. At the end of the day, Redpill is men's response and ada…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 04:53 PM
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if 100% is the top 20% ... lol logic fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:46 PM
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Lol you underestimate how much it cost to raise kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:13 PM
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MRA do exist lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 05:58 AM
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Becausr she's at a dead end job and became a single mother of 3 children. Diapers aren't cheap and she needed a beta to help pay the bills
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 05:50 AM
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The reverse is ofcourse women post 30s , but ofcourse to BP it's all just RP revenge fantasy lol. Everything has give and take according to BP but they'll never think or care what post 30's women offer to men that'll make men reciprocate other then shaming languages... bunch of hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 05:46 AM
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Loyalty Devotion Attractive Comparability Career/Education level.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 08:33 PM
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Citation needed, and the difference here is that TRP takes ques from society as a whole... including porn, hollywood, evolution-science, psychology... meanwhile you are basing your premise on artist's songs lyrics lol. Do you fail to see the difference? Your premise isn't that hard to prove, but poor evidence and horrible attitude weakens your arguments. Finally: https://genius.com/Juice-wrld-all-girls-are-the-same-lyrics
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:23 PM
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Should look up what "moving goalpost is" before you use the term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts saying your premise is faulty cuz it's base on song lyrics isn't "moving the goal post" lol, that's how adult debate and discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:45 PM
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Lol TRP takes ques from pop songs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:44 PM
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I dunno.. i can't take anyone's argument serious if they are using pop songs as their reasoning and supporting evidence. Lol And yes not only do i not listen to her songs, but i'll take pride from the fact that i don't. Finally you do realizee that her life isn't the average life of a girl right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:27 PM
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When did TRP say otherwise? And sure different women might want to settle down at different age but the point is it's a phase that most women goes thru and in the end they all seek to settle down if it's possible... again due to biology. Also hilarious you are backing your theory up with tailor swift songs lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 07:13 AM
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So close yet so far away... yes different women want different types of men.. but their difference is age. Younger women chases after guys with looks and social status. When biology calls they'll look for a provider so they can settle down. TRP has been all over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:56 AM
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The underlying problem is: What's considered "attractive"? and for the male students at least... the major goals of attending college to to receive a piece of paper by the end of their 3 or 4 year so they can hopefully get a job and paid off their student debt, which was a result from having them spend the same years getting that piece of paper. Irony aside, its no surprise that these male would spend time studying instead of hitting the gym or look good. Gym, eating right and maintaining those …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:48 PM
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That's why self improvememt is so critical ... rather then hoping ppl won't leave you... one should continue to improve so that it makes it less likely for them to leave.. or if they did... you still have value to recover if you choose, or at least not be in a terrible situation
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 04:12 PM
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"You can't control other humans" is the exact point that'll come up when she does decide to leave you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 05:20 AM
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While I agreed that Redpill have overstated the wall, it's less harmful then the Bluepill's preaching women that they can "have it all", which ended up with them being entitled and utterly confused when their age sets in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 12:53 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjSh_esW9W4 At work, but if this is the correct video then it should say that 80% of people reported in the study stick to their own race. 1) Yes. 2) Maybe... not sure if it counts as a date. The experience was decent but definitely not comparable. 3) Yes. It's a combination of stereotype as well as un-aligned shared values and culture... and of course language barrier. For the racial stereotypes... popular culture does nothing except to perpetrate this. 4) And he…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:44 PM
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The only real answer is : Whatever that's in high demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 02:06 AM
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This is not a new idea. The problem arise when one individual seeks people from another market. For example: girl looking for long relationship while targeting males who are looking for flings, or male incels looking for commitment to girls who wanted nothing to do with them. The problem with OP's solution is that she/he/they assumed that people's wants and desires are based on age and location, while in reality people in the same place with the same age group wanted different things... as well …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 02:04 AM
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Actually it's more like guys don't want girls to cheat on them. The key here is exclusivity. It's viewed as duality to because of their lack of contribution to a relationship besides sex or the promise of sex. Also hilarious is that the views OP shares are not shared exclusively by the male gender and often enforced by their female peers lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 12:23 AM
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No i don’t. Amoral means without regard to morality, it encompasses both ideas people would deem moral or immoral, the full range of behavior. lol and No. Amoral means without regards to mortality.. that doesn't encompass it but to be view in absence of it. The “Sexual strategy is amoral” rhetoric 9/10 times is used to remind men not to assign moral value to conduct which many would object to. Hilarious when the opposite fails to apply to females and BP beliefs. For example traditional RP would …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:28 PM
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Amoral...immoral.. after all this time you spent on here you still fail to understand the difference lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:18 PM
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“Dancing monkey” is a lie (it’s called flirting and everyone does it). Dancing monkey is more then just flirting. It's catering to the female you are trying to attract at one's on expense and defamation. RP always says it best: "You are the prize." Most statements these dudes make that end in “...she will never respect you” If you do things that doesn't make her respect you... why isn't that a surprise? All women wanting to be treated like children is a lie. That I agree with and one of the few …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 01:49 PM
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LOL, RP never advocated commitment, and definitely suggest the guy to not get involved if the plate becomes clingy. I have no clue where you are getting the idea from. If you see post where they say this, then link it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 01:24 PM
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Yes, pride and self-esteem are important. Having standards is important. But not lying is also important. And the pillosphere's worldview is based on lies to cover up their own struggles with pride. In order to complete your argument logically you have to explain to us where did RP lie? And to what extent is self-improvement, and developing skills and knowledge to have better success in the dating scene consider "lying"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 01:07 PM
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Lol you are assuming male models don't work out, groom, wear makeup, wear the fanciest clothes, or even plastic surgery. Being born with good genes can't get you so far if you sit on the couch and eat junk food all day lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:41 AM
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I'm perfectly find with this, but what does it say about female when they are supposed to gatekeep reproduction but ended up having multiple sex partners and even children with different fathers? Perfectly agreeable as well, but then why do some women find it so offensive when male prefere younger, more fertile female to have a better chance to reproduce and wanting more healthier female then obese and ugly ones as potential partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:37 AM
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Lol ofcourse the average man will never be Chad, cuz Chad is not average. Think you missed the point is that Drake was once average, and he became Chad after he achieved fame and success. I think what you are failing to see here is that people can generally improve and Chad is definitely wasn't born but made.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:31 AM
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Quite the strawmen argument. Men are not surprised about women being attracted to Chad at all. The whole point of redpill and Pua is literally trying to be Chad to attract girls, so how can you say they are surprised about things that they are aiming to achieve? Can you provide an example where men are actually surprised by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:28 AM
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Let's flip the coin here a bit: How can you expect a women to have enthusiastic sex with her husband if she's not feeling it? Marital Rape is a thing. How can you expect a husband to be romantic if he's no longer feeling loved?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 01:02 PM
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I don't often upvote blue flair but you deserve this one. The only thing I'll like to add is that the logic cut both ways and people can have a case of FOMO in terms of marriage as well. This is more of a blue leaning idea but one should find happiness for themselves rather then trying to find happiness via partner, whether it's series of short flings or marriage. In the end people need to have their shit figured out before pursing any relationship... whether it's short term or long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 10:37 PM
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Isn't it scary to think that we are having a discussion with ppl choosing to sex with other ppl and it can have no relations to who they want to have a relationship with? Lololololol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:23 AM
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If they are not, why are women fucking them and why do these fuckboys get sex so often? lol. it's seems like the female duel mating strategy is once again on display here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 02:56 AM
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Because in their world view, most females are not known to show kindness to them. So if one did stood out from the rest and display kindness, then it must have meant she must be different from the rest. This speaks volume about female's attitude toward men then anything else. Also most men only fall for this a few times, then they became more guarded when female acted more kindly toward them. Ofcourse at this point women would only say men became aloof or heartless, but really who's the one to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 01:23 AM
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Disagree. The media's silence about Amber Heard is about how dominate the left's hold/Monopoly on mainstream media is (including reddit). It's a wide gag order on the issue to preserve the status quo agenda, including female being portrayed always as the victim, but not the propagator of domestic abuse. The issue is, who is behind and instituting all these narrative and to what purpose do they serve?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 10:31 PM
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Going to the Gym doesn't just scrupt the body but also the mind. You get out of the house, against your instinct to just slack off, and commit to a cause which works for the betterment of one's self. Only when one achieve their goals or gain the habit to the path of success, then you can apply your experience to replicate the process to the other parts of your life. The best way to describe is is the cliche iceberg motivational posters... people only see the 10% of the iceberg... meaning the mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 04:00 PM
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Underrated comment
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 01:21 PM
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and MGTOW is just about men going their own way. Seriously we judge a subset base on their action and not what they say they advocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:26 PM
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Guess I was a natural born MGTOW... never was interested in dating because I realized it was a raw deal ever since I was young. Was bit of an social outcast growing up as well cuz I'm not into things not many ppl are into and vice versa.
/r/MGTOW226/01/20 06:06 PM
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Firstly I put ‘standards’ in quotes because it’s just such a stupid term; you can’t control who you’re attracted to. Agreed. The same logic should apply to men who won't date women with high N-Count, who are single parents, transgendered, or feminists. Also men are generally attracted to young women, and that's also biology. Why do women have to lower their “standards”? Again agreed that women shouldn't have to lower their standards... the same people who agreed that women shouldn't have to lowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:47 PM
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You've under estimate skills that is required and also the fact that male don't want any women but goes after women they desire... Trp doesn't build frame.. but gives you a guide on how to build one. The problem is that building frame is something that isn't taught much outside of trp
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:38 PM
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Reality: it's true that you don't need to be a perfect person to get a date... but getting a date isn't the goal here but to develope a relationship... and the threshold is much higher... getting into countless date but not developing into anything is also a failure. Trp is about successful dating stragety from the male perspective... and that's way more then just getting dates lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:18 PM
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Disagree... especially in education in which spots are made available to females as suppose to male enrollment... you are sacrificing male bodies to place female bodies in universities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 12:47 PM
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Sure we can't force society to distribute love and sex, but apparantly we should distribute our wealth, healthcare, and education... and all these things which actually increase our sex appeal, to the rest of society lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 12:44 PM
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I believe that they are not blindspots.. most PPD would agree with the facts that you've stated.. but draws different conclusions from them. The experience of actual Chads - they’re not sex robots, with no motivation in life except pussy. If anything, they care less about it than the guys on this board, because it’s so available to them (note that this isn’t to say that it’s of no importance, just that it’s not their sole goal in life) The quote "sex is like oxygen, you don't care unless you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 05:28 PM
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Because there's more to moving out to another country then it is to get your dick wet... lol... language barrier, cultural differences, job market all comes into play.. but funny enough being a sex-pat would be more of a redpill solution consider how they view western women as obese and entitled lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 10:33 PM
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Immigrantion in the western world ... unless you suggest men's struggling is a universal thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 10:27 PM
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Immigration is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 09:51 PM
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And it'll be up to the individual to justify whether or not it's worth it.. not random self righteous person on the other side of the internet lol. It's also debatable that everything have a cost.. and what op advocated is against self improvement of any kind for the sake of being "genuine"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 11:38 AM
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Psychopathy is not an inherently attractive trait. Disagree. CEO and successful people often have psychopathic traits. - https://www.insider.com/ceos-often-have-psychopathic-traits-2017-7 This is extremely draining to the average man, who has been trained to care for other people; psychopaths only make up one percent of the population in the US. While I can't deny that it might work in certain occasions, attempting to acquire a mental illness is at best a stupid goal and at worst damaging to one…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:44 AM
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So where are the girls at?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 11:32 PM
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The problem is that your post tells us that finding a good girl in a market of flesh is pointless.. yet your recent response suggest men to find the nice girl in the same market of flesh... and have to dig them in the backroom...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 03:01 AM
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I'm okay and agreed with what most of what OP posted... but the problem is... where do you find these "good girls(tm)" if they don't even go out and be in a casual social environment? and one can imagine the backlash men would get if they start approaching girls randomly on the streets or other more serious social setting... and dating at work is definitely a dangerous proposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 12:04 AM
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I dare op to say that the genders are no blankslated equal but different in r/feminism or r/twoxxchromosones. The problem is in any other areas besides dating... blankslated gender equality is the expectation and what the woke crowd pushed for at every turn and every opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 03:54 PM
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Simple answer... as this has been asked a couple of times throughout this sub: men will sleep with sluts, but will not commit to sluts. Also STD is a legit concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:19 AM
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So apparently women doesn't count and anti red female have literally no effect in this sub... how prograsive and anti red you are lol ...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 12:27 AM
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Agreed and that was what i was trying to imply.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 08:36 PM
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Maybe it's just their life style, views, and expectations of each other in that relationship doesn't align?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 07:48 PM
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It's not just looks. It's also height, social status, wealth/future prospect. If a person doesn't have the perfect look/body... other criteria can compensate up to a certain degree. The reverse can also apply. This is in sharp contrast to male's preference to women, where a girl's look matters way more then other criteria. Personality does also matter. Women are definitely attracted to an Alpha Personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 11:30 PM
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Youd be daft to think being a slut should be outright ok Today's feminist seems to think otherwise. Using shaming to stop shaming huh? That's the usual tactics of most female advocates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 01:41 PM
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They do? It's the whole idea behind internalized misogyny. Yet they can't even control their and police their own gender, and expect the opposite gender to fall in line? I also wish men would shame each other less for being virgins. That's another topic and maybe you should start a post about it. In my experience that's hardly the case in this generation and rather it invoke sympathy and even some jealousy among today's men as they are also free of women trouble lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 01:37 PM
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Slut shaming is a serious issue and feminist and female advocates should educate their own gender regarding regarding the toxic nature of slut-shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 09:54 PM
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Sure but what's the qualification of doctors in this case? Certainly not those who claimed that those people are not sick and is born that way undeserving of what others have or could do, or claim the patient is sick due to their own failings and suggest no remedy for said situation. As it stands society itself offer no solution for these people, and it's small wonder they turn toward themselves to seek for solution rather then follow some propaganda to tell them to give more and shame themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 01:30 PM
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Geez... do you expect the hospital to be full of sick people or healthy people lol Also: I dunno... the general advise from those certain subs you keep referring to keeps advocating self improvement and/or coping mechanism so they can lead fulfilling lives without relationship... how is that "not willing to leave?" Lol Finally you'll find a lot of happy people in religion and cults... but it sure hell doesn't mean the advise they gave are sound or good advise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:33 PM
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This question has been bought up many different times in many different ways, but the answer still remains the same: If you want to lose weight, you seek advise from health and fitness subs. Furthermore the subs will be filled with others who post their weights, BMI, and age and problems that might hinder their progress. Which is why those people may seem miserable to you. When these people see progress they leave the sub maybe after an update so it may seem like those fitness subs are full of o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:50 PM
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Sure - now let's try the below quotes "To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he's a machine, a walking dildo." -- Valerie Solanas, Authoress of the SCUM Manifesto "The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness...can be trained to do most things." -- Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society For Cutting Up Men, started by Valerie Solanas) Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman." -- Andrea Dworkin "Men are r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 10:46 PM
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No one knows what they want or need, and people's wants and needs changes over time. “watch what women do, not what they say” Action speaks louder then words no? Or is exceptions being made just because it portrays a certain gender in a negative light?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 10:37 PM
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How else are you going ensure your views of this world is the correct one unless you test them and discuss with people who think otherwise? That's the danger of today's society: an echo chamber where people of similar minds shout down anything that oppose them and shame/misrepresent opposite views instead of trying to understand from a different perspective. And one has to wonder why the world has become so divisive these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 08:49 PM
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Shaming language aside, I agree with the premise but a) what about when the gender is revsered? And b) what about those who accept the the reality of women's preference and choose to either not participate or increase their value in order to get higher quality women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 05:07 PM
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So if a percentage of men was affected by it... it's partially effective? https://onenewsnow.com/business/2019/08/02/gillette-cut-by-8b-loss-after-toxic-masculinity-ad considering their profits went down after this I wouldn't consider the effects as "useless" or minimal, or that "everyone else" was just laughing. Also just a note: You can think that it's useless.. but it doesn't add to the discussion unless you actually input some counter-point as to why it's useless. I can think the sky is gree…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 02:57 PM
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Yeah but only pussies care about shame sooooo If indeed only "pussies" cares about shame, then stuff like the Gillette commercial would be pretty useless. Male doesn't care about "shame" in the same way female does, but there are consequences such as reputation loss when they are accused of misogyny or racists. This all goes back to the question: is preference in certain traits racist/bigoted/misogynistic went it's pre-selected by the male, and why is the reverse not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 08:29 PM
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I agree with the premise of what OP said, but what OP had observe has a much larger implication: Basically put, a male cannot shame or change female's choice and preference. To some extent they have to mold into and possess what the opposite gender desire. Neither genders or any Pill would disagree with this. The problem is when the genders are reversed. In today's society male are shamed regarding their preference to what they want in an ideal mate. This ranges from fat shaming, not dating sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 07:47 PM
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I think we have a bit of a misunderstanding regarding what constitute "strategy". The Strategy that I'll considering is also increasing one's attractiveness (getting in shape, dress well, learning proper etiquette, changing one's lifestyle, etc.) and not just limited to the physical. I don't think those have negligent impact, and furthermore those are not always apparent to the average male. The strategy isn't that elaborate though when you're attractive. All you have to do is be straight up abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 07:41 PM
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Average compared to what? From the male perspective the context of "average" is the average for those they are able to get into relationship or get laid, which is relevant to the question in context. The statement Op poses is only relevant if there are other ways to be successful with dating other then being attractive. It's hilarious to think that what OP said actually true to a certain extent. Male who are attractive already doesn't need to do much to get dates... those who aren't will require…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:32 PM
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And who's fault was that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 08:47 AM
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Blackpill answer: Genetics Redpill answer: Game Bluepill answer: Trick question bluepill doesn't have an answer MGTOW answer: Who gives a fuck? Pick your poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:49 PM
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Men do not think feminism is dating advise.. but rather rules that, if you don't follow, would keep you away from girls you are dating by being labled as a creep and a misogynist. Think of it as trading stocks... the SEC (Securities exchange Commission) setup rules that people must follow to trade stocks... you can't use the SEC guideline to tell you how to invest, but if you don't follow the SEC rules, you can't even trade. my instinct tells me that men are reading feminist essays in mainstream…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:21 PM
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Is Legality the Only Thing Keeping Omega Dudes From Just Hiring An Escort? The problem with this line of thinking is the premise "Male only want sex" and that's the furthest thing from the truth. Male wants to be desired by female (aka loved) and the desirability is expressed by sexual intercourse. They are called Omega dudes for a reason; and that reason is that they genuinely have little sense of their self-worth. They already seem to visualize women requiring you to spend money on them in exc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:15 PM
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Triumphant pride precipitates a dizzying fall.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/06/19 05:10 AM
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My question is: what do you plan to do to offset the fact that women carry the child? what disadvantage should men suffer in result of biological facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 10:15 AM
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Q4Men: You see a guy giving women what they want and going out of their way too appease them in an effort to get those women to like and have sex with him. Is this guy acting "manly" in this situation, or would you consider him to be an unmanly, "beta" guy? If the women, in turn, is giving her men what he wants and gets him to like her and have sex with her... then it's not so much as pandering but fair trade... this is the idealized fantasy scenario thou. Men love women and will do anything to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 01:42 AM
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Because biology. The women carry the child not the men. You are more then welcome to blame the creator for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 09:42 AM
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The biggest problem I see in this post is that it views sex as a reward from women given to men for good behavior and I find that misogynist. This also contradicts your message against sex being a commodity. OP better check him/herself. Also if you agree that individuals are different, then you must concede the point that different people have different views and are entitled to live their lives differently, including to choose the MGTOW style of life and to view marriage as something that's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 10:32 PM
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I agree, but don't be surprised that a certain type of people, both male and female, could ended up single. Part of evolution and the laizze faire attitude is that a certain percentage of ppl could end up failing... and that's certain no the sentimemt that the idealogue leftist/feminist shared
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 02:37 AM
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Sure, but switch the gender around and BP will call you a misogynist. The only objection I have to your Post is that men can still increase their value even after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 03:09 AM
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How long does attraction last and what happens when the attraction fades?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 11:28 AM
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Have you heard of a thing call "men's rights movement"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 05:03 PM
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Used to work in an office enviroment and had to train a recent female hired. I was showing her stuff on my computer and my hand was on my mouse when she leaned foward and press her boobs onto to back of my hand that's using the mouse... I was actually completely caught offguard and was flustered so i gave her an angry/annoyed look. Not sure if that counts
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 02:37 AM
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When I was younger I got no social skills, was overweight, and was stuck in a dead-end job. There are many girls who are super-nice and whom I'll love to spend the rest of my life with but they are not obtainable. Eventually I found myself a decent job, worked out, and is currently socializing with new people... but I've already passed my prime. All the girls I knew was in a steady relation or married/started their families. I've tried online dating, got matched up with some nice looking girls b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 10:14 PM
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Don't forget the rise of the herbivore men in Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 10:28 AM
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The "ok-cupid" study has also confirmed the same conclusion, but I see it also being handwaved by other BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 10:47 PM
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Sure they don't but there are such thing as "trophy wife"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 03:49 AM
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Hate to break it to you all: but just because you are older doesn't necessarily mean you are wiser or more mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 04:36 PM
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Your response right here: http://money.com/money/4116161/alimony-reform-spousal-support/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:22 PM
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The reverse of this question is: if Bluepill see their brother started to be a doormat to women and fell victim to golddigger and cheaters... will they say anything? Most of them would. It really also depends on what red pill tactic is used here... the public and ppl in general doesn't support abuse.. but most RP tactic and pickup games isn't really abuse... more like psychology and displaying masculine behaviour that's desirable... society generally accept those behaviours
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 02:55 AM
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Toxic masculinity doesn’t equate to men being toxic. It equates to some aspects of masculinity being toxic when they are extreme. So many to take away from this 1) What and who defines "extreme" and 2) Why do men have to be subjected to laws and social media about certain views if it doesn't apply to all men? Again this Gillette commercial is a prime example... why the ad calling for men to stop certain behaviors if most men aren't toxic? Only fucking morons think a whole sex are bad/toxic. Moro…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 11:46 AM
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I think that's the problem and you believed that men are triggered and got defensive regarding the Gillette commercial. We are not. We are fearful. Fearful of being stereotyped and portrayed as toxic by large corporations trying to selling their social agenda, and our female counterpart actually believe that men in general is toxic... that they don't understand that women and men are different and that boys will be boys and they'll fight... that men have to approach women because women don't app…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 11:25 AM
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I’d agree they’re toxic, yes. I’d adjust my views if you were able to counter them You'vs just adjusted your views and considered the Gillette Ad as toxic. That's quite frankly is all I required. Have a good day. No one is asking every man to follow a rigid stereotype. I don’t even know where you pulling any of this from. You mean the ad isn't 1) showing men behave in a certain negative ways and 2) encouraging men to stop other men to stop these behaviors? Watch the ad again exhibit a) Guy tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 11:08 AM
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Not surprising that you dismissed my example. If we are literally discussing your example, then how am I dismissing it? Dismissing doesn't mean we have to agree like a bunch of NPCs. The Man Up campaign was pioneered by men, backed by men, and there’s plenty of videos to watch of men discussing their experiences. in counter-part...toxic femininity... the unrealistic female body standards are completely backed by the fashion industry and anorexic female runway models and ads featured by female mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 10:35 AM
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I literally just gave you one: mental health. Toxic ideas of masculinity can affect how men deal with their mental health. That’s why such campaigns/charities which as “Man Up” are around, trying to advocate against these ideas. Hilarious considering one of the prime example of such ad campaign is literally this Gilettte commercial. We should all "men up" to support the feminist agenda and white knight for our female counterpart because women can't stand up for themselves and because men should …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 01:08 AM
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I never said they weren’t the same. I’m saying it’s still a massive issue in men and it’s the biggest killer in age groups of men. keep backpeddling. The biggest killer is heart disease, follow by cancer and injuries: http://www.idph.state.il.us/menshealth/healththreats.htm I don’t think you grasp what the concept of toxic femininity or toxic masculinity is. It’s not just men/women doing back things, it’s how gender roles hurt the sexes. So again, how does female gender roles lead to women sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 12:02 AM
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Toxic? Yes. I’m asking you how it shows toxic femininity though. You don't believe that older women preying on under-aged male who can't consent isn't toxic? You’re not showing me anything I don’t know. But suicide is a massive killer of men, and one of the biggest in a few age ranges in men. So again, it’s a big issue and something a lot of men admit themselves to struggling with but are too scared to seek help due to being seen as weak (toxic masculinity). In case you missed it... the link fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 11:42 PM
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You didn’t even show me examples of toxic femininity... I’m not about to send you examples of something I’m more than sure you’ll disregard as not toxic. I already see your tactic here... disregard your opponent's example while enforcing your own you showed me examples of women having sex with their students (how is this linked to toxic femininity?) you don't think female teachers raping their male student isn't toxic? And frankly, considering more men are violent/more men commit suicide, it’s p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 11:33 PM
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No one said women don’t do bad things... it’s just not on the same scale as men I've shown you some examples of toxic femininity on my last reply... you are welcome to show examples for counterparts and explain how "they are not on the same scale as men"... but in reality... I'm not really interested in this victimhood olypmics... people in general suffers and it is really necessary to decend into tribalism... because last time in history there was a guy that attempted to do this around 1939 to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 10:49 PM
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Why should a multi million dollar corporation be telling us how to live our lives and teach moral lessons when it's using child labor and animal testing? https://www.cosmeticsdesign.com/Article/2016/11/30/Are-P-G-and-Unilever-using-child-labor-to-source-palm-oil-for-personal-care-and-cosmetic-products-Amnesty-International-says-yes http://features.peta2.com/shopcrueltyfree/cruelty_free_companies_search.aspx?Dotest=8 Or they don’t make a Gillette commercial for it because it pales in comparison v…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 12:14 PM
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Women have issues,too, but they really pale in comparison. Probably because they didn't make a gillete commercial that shows you the problems of of toxic femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 08:43 AM
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yet when women are disadvantaged when it comes to divorce laws... women petition to have the law change... http://time.com/money/4116161/alimony-reform-spousal-support/ ofcourse men do not do this, because society has no sympathy for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:12 AM
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Because people are not talking about a generalized experience. They are talking about a very specific instance. A d someone needs to stop and tell us that 'oh but not all guys will do that'. When I had to report a break-in, no one told me 'but not all people break into cars'. When I call the cops on my neighbors for screaming in the street at 3 am no one tells me 'not all neighbors are like that'. Its not necessary. Its intrusive and selfish and narcissistic. No one asked and no one said. But fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 01:34 AM
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partly true... except it's more like: ->'This guy grabbed my ass on the bus' -> all guys should be segregated from riding in the same bus as women -> but not all guys do that. You are blinded to the accusations and the misandry on your own side and how it affects all men, and not just the guilty... #menspreading and #metoo movement shows this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 01:01 AM
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We both quote the same paragraph but the interpretation is vastly different. For example how does saying "Not all men" derail and dismiss the lived experiences of women and girls? Are we supposed to say instead "Yes all men" and profess our non-existence guilt? Can you imagine if the situation is reversed? AWALT for example? What will happened if women respond saying NAWALT and men goes, "but you are derailing and dismissing the lived experiences of men and boys"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 07:23 PM
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Just because something is harsh doesn’t mean it’s true. I'm perfectly fine with this. People should take out emotions in their argument and instead view it with logic and facts. Happy people are magnanimous, not withholding of courtesy. Citation needed... also the individual define their own happiness. Who's determining the happiness of RP other then themselves, except to be met with the shaming language and moral criticism of BP? You say people won’t get out of their comfort zones out of fear o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 06:43 PM
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Where the fuck did I say anything even remotely close to that? Learn to argue in good faith or STFU. Your post here: I’m not sure what a bunch of click bait articles have to do with TBP. If I linked to you random alt right and white supremacists websites as “proof” of TRP, I doubt you’d accept it. So does the link count, or didn't count as BP? You never answered the question, and the biggest question why Brietbrad and TJ media counts as RP, but my link doesn't count as BP... again you didn't say…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 05:29 PM
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Title 9 was passed in 70s to ensure equal funding for girls sports and activites, and provide legal recourse for discrimination against girls in education. Provisions in the 90s were added to deal with the huge jump in sexual assaults on campuses, and give schools the abiilty to provide faster due process to address cases reported on their campuses -- which for the record, I vehemently disagree with. All it did was allow schools to become kangaroo courts and save face by sweeping the prevalence …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 05:06 PM
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you real? "So #NotAllMen doesn’t clarify anything. It doesn’t add to the discussion or develop it in any way. All it does is derail and dismiss the lived experiences of women and girls. And what the men who leap to remind us that ‘’not all men are like that’’, are actually saying is, ‘’I’m not like that.’’ Or to put it another way, they are letting women know that discussing misogyny makes them uncomfortable, and they’d like to be absolved of any blame before they will let women continue." To el…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 04:32 PM
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It is asbolutely 100% analogous to me taking a sexist comment by a conservative or a right winger (groups I happen to not like) and using it as example of TRP cuz "hey I disagree with all of them so I can lump them all together." I could produce millions of articles promoting sexist and racist ideology from Brietbart, PJ Media, etc. Doesn't mean I get to assign their words to a group they didn't sign up for, does it? except the public, pressured by left-leaning group, has been implementing dysto…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 04:21 PM
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except it goes completely against science and common sense... women have tits and can breastfeed, men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:53 PM
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I agree it's right there... why it is believing that women are better care for children a "sexist value" ? or believing that "women enjoy unfair advantages in the workplace" and disagree that it's right a "sexist value"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:49 PM
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Girl you can’t be that socially stunted... it is really the truth that she's socially stunted? What do you know about her, or are you just projecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:45 PM
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The second article is a scientific study saying that while gender relations have been steadily improving, most men still harbor some, probably unconscious, sexist beliefs. Hardly "all men are sexist rapists." "But Men Are Still All Kinds of Sexist Most men are not sexually assaulting women. Men consider harassment a societal problem, and are becoming more progressive about their gender attitudes with every passing year. But harmful attitudes persist among the majority — often in confusing ways. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:33 PM
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I did say a TBP thread... didn’t I? 1) And here's the double standard displayed by the BP... when it's RP... whatever someone said anything on this sub or one of the RP sub became the standard beliefs of all RP... but when it's BP... it's "NotALLBP"... 2) What's the point of discussing anything in this sub if it doesn't confirm to the real life?(again regarding the OP's BP bubble) It's like as if someone says that he's not as asshole because he didn't say anything mean on this sub, but acted lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:29 PM
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Try these for size https://thenextweb.com/facebook/2018/09/06/facebooks-double-standards-censorship/ https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/are-men-sexist-data-male-feminism/ https://medium.com/@KirstyStricklan/why-men-should-stop-saying-notallmen-immediately-f657e244f7a1 Again... the problem with the BP bubble... they don't look outs into the world and are confined into their own little world... including just finding examples in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:02 PM
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Girl you can’t be that socially stunted... and they say RP has not empathy... meanwhile BP mocks someone who's been abandoned by her father... wow....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:39 PM
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This thread is like a rehash of all BP/RP argument, but as the Okcupid study has show (and never been refuted or directly acknowledge by BP).. that women have a higher and skewed standard when it comes to mate selection then men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:34 PM
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BP also has their own equivalent of AWALT... (it's call all men are pig/rapist/sexist, and then there's toxic masculinity and how they define every men behavior as toxic masculinity) Not everyone runs the Dread game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 02:31 PM
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So the BPers are kinda taken aback by the lack of grace these guys display (since some of the shit is pretty crass) and so taunt them because they think it’s a way to combat it. the RP has a way of saying this.. it's call shaming language. 1)Why should we display grace when society didn't offer these men the same courtesy? 2) Reality doesn't get confirmed to your "grace"... reality is the harsh brutal truth and it's sad that snowflakes can't handle these truth. That's part of the 'bubble' that O…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 01:53 PM
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https://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/a21969968/lose-virginity-average-age/ This article disagree with your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 01:27 PM
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Mind if you share link to the study? and as I've stead previously... recidivism comparison between male and female would be the things we should be looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 02:28 PM
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In general people who got jail sentence has a higher rate of re-offending ... I think for the purpose of this discussion it'll be more useful to compare the rate of female vs male chances of being repeated offenders after they have served a jail sentence. ... or punishment such as not letting them see their children was less helpful to recidivism than allowing their kids to see them. this also assumes that the female individual in question is a mother to begin with...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 02:24 PM
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Also, people always love to preach how men and women are different but never seem to think about maybe the way we rehabilitate/punish (depends on what your justice system focuses on) men is not going to work the same on women. Interesting point actually... but what is the justification or scientifical/rational thinking that leads to the conclusion that women should have lesser and shorter sentencing then men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:39 PM
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Again you fail to understand that you can't change the gender and gender roles because they are part of gender idenity unless you destroy the gender itself... it's like the concept of being any idenity, such as being and adult... you get to vote, drive, and get married and have a job... but ppl have car accidents, vote the way liberals don't like, and failed to achieve marital or career success.... and basically feminist's solution is to redefine the terms of adulthood instead to relief ppl from…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 05:44 AM
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A lot of the problems with this post and OP's proposal is that it's devoid of how reality actually works Divorce: Feminists want women to have access to higher paying fields and promotions. Feminists want paid family leave for men and women, and want it to be more acceptable for men to be stay at home dads. If we reduce the gap in average pay between men and women, “divorce rape” will effect men and women equally. how do you actually get around to enforce that? there's already legislation and la…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:21 AM
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You, as a responsible person, will then pay for their treatment via your own insurance/med bills because guess what - hospitals and doctors and nurses work to make a profit - the more they CANT charge irresponsible people, the more they'll charge responsible people. Which means I'm subsidizing retards, and I'm not a fan of that. I currently live in a country with universal healthcare. While I do agree with most of your points... the fact is that you've switch the agency from corporate to governm…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 01:33 PM
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There are some problems here, particularly fostering the habit of talking to everyone which can tend to alienate people. having the habit of talking to everyone tends to alienate people? is the earth flat? Also, you didn't mention any of these activities in your previous post. check the post above that post please https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/a7xrgm/cmv_theredpill_only_discourages_young_men_from/ec6oury/ ... and that's actually from a quote in a post on /r/theredpill's side…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 09:30 PM
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Yes, cuz apparently eating right, avoiding fast food, hitting the gym, dressing your best, and having the habit to talk to everyone is "promoting a desolate, empty existence; like a tumble weed rolling across the desert floor at three o'clock in the afternoon."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 06:36 PM
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and how do they differ? They'll probably be the same except Bp would protect the female narrative. For example if TRP would say wealth because they want beta providers and you can't be a provider without money... BP would also say money but because the men should at least provide a suitable lifestyle for himself and the ones he loves... and what follows would be argument of semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 03:42 PM
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it's actually not narrow at all and it's all over TRP and in the sidebar (one may argument it's actually the bases of TRP)... also it's more to do with self development then "max the pen0r"... This is taken right outside of one of the post on the side bar "INTRODUCTION What did I make this guide? All too often guys grow up hearing the typical dating advice of: “Just be yourself” “Be confident” “The right girl will come along some day” As just about everyone who's found TRP knows, those statement…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 03:27 PM
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how is it teaching them though? Confidence, lift, invest in yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 02:52 PM
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yeah, you need to take the result of theredpill into account as well. Show me the results thens? Where's your proof that TRP discourage young men from dating? Also I'll say that there's is a moral obligation to show young men about the reality and the red flags in the dating scene... just like how society should teach people how to drive to avoid traffic collusion, we should tell our young men how to start and maintain relationships to avoid pain and suffering. Rather than just focusing on a few…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 02:46 PM
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except you still fail to understand what TRP is... TRP isn't scaring young men off so they'll never date, but how to avoid failures and achieve the success in dating these young men are hoping for. Again with my example... it's like the difference between telling people to "check your blind spot before you change lanes" vs "don't ever change lanes oncoming traffic will ram into you."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 02:31 PM
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Not really, but this is a debate sub and I'm trying to point out the deficiencies of your position and your argument. That's what people in debates do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 02:25 PM
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There's more then a subtle difference between "be careful out there when you drive to avoid traffic accident because you are not an experience" and straight up telling people "don't drive it'll kill you cuz you got little experience in driving". OP can't distinguish between one and the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 02:19 PM
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Question for OP: are you referring to "men who have a preference for having a partner that stays home" vs "men who forces all women to stay at home"? because there's nothing wrong with having preferences for mate selection and as long as the male doesn't force his partner to stay home then it's really their own business. I would like some more detailed answer than the trivial cliche excuse "If women work they cannot have/take care of children". There's no details because that's not the position …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 12:24 AM
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"Whataboutism"...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 01:17 PM
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Quality men are quality men; Assholes are Assholes. They are not mutually exclusive. There are quality men that are assholes and there are non-assholes who are not quality men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 11:00 AM
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Straight Men, about how many of your female friends and acquaintances have you sexually fantasized? Most of them, especially the good looking ones. The only restriction was I won't if they are married or in a long term relationship... obviously my list of "spank-bank" grew shorter and shorter until I unintentionally found myself in /r/nofap. How frequently? Surprisingly more frequently then the girl's I've dated. It may have to do with the fact that I know my friends more then my dates and there…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 11:53 PM
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The problem is there's one group of people that does things that the other group doesn't like and then shame them with everything they can find. The other group, on the contrary, never tell the other side how they should live their lives. You figure out which one is which pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 10:50 AM
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Can you tell me why past behaviour is a bad case to judge future behavior upon? Not so much as "past behaviours" as much as you don't know what's going on behind closed doors. People can be in an abusive relationship but other people won't know a thing about it. Men do it to women all the time. Agree. Doesn't mean they are right either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 10:38 PM
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What some women are saying: "I prefer dad bods". Said no women ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 10:48 PM
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"There's nothing wrong with "riding the cock carousel"" - if you are 1) smart enough to quit while you are ahead, 2) understand the consequence and able to deal with it, or 3) able to hide your past well so you can avoid dealing with said consequences later in life. The main argument against CC isn't about not letting women choosing how to live their lives, but women who gone past the wall and then blame men for not wanting them afterwards because they've developed nothing and has nothing to off…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 11:16 AM
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What's your gender, and do you have female friends? Male. have Quite a few female friends. How do your friendships with women differ from your friendships with men? Guys don't bother each other and only hang out to do stuff (shared goals). Girls hang out more for social reasons. I would say there's more competition for men vs men (throwing good-natured shades at each other then friendship on the opposite sex.) However men that doesn't like each other would still tolerate each other and hang out …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 11:26 AM
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Unlike most of BP here, I'm interested in an honest argument and as long as /r/BiggerDthenYou agreed that the underlying forces that drives gender difference is biology, I'll rest my case. One must never sink down to the level of your opponent even if they strawmen you and argue in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:32 PM
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You should really try to understand what you are reading because I clearly said that they spread it. Allow me to elaborate my question: Explain how Christianity, which existed around 30 AD, spread to influence culture with the concept of masculinity (of Herculean and Apollonian) that existed in 300 B.C, or the concept of Yin and Yan of the Chinese philosophy representing masculinity and femininity, who already have this concept around at least 500 B.C? Not a single TBPer has ever said that sex a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:26 PM
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Learn to read. I clearly said that they are often built upon sex differences and that they are often based on biology. So gender is based on social standards which is based on Biology. Do you agree with this? First: because societal ideas are social constructs even if they have a basis in reality Emphasis on reality forming societal ideals and not the reversed. Which means you would already know that why men's crying is looked down upon... Secondly: they didn't. There have been plenty of culture…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 05:36 PM
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They are still societal standards even if they have a basis in biology. Again - putting the cart before the horse. Biology drives the social standards, not the reverse Like for example it's a sex difference that males cry less due to higher amounts of testosterone, but the idea that men shouldn't cry is a social construct built upon those sex differences. Not all cultures came up with the idea that it's wrong for men to show emotions or that it makes them lesser men. Because most BP like you doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:40 PM
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How is this contradictory to "Masculinity refers to societal standards and expectations on men"? Because these standards and expectations are driven by biological differences. It's literally putting the cart before the horse. As stated before male define masculinity and not masculinity defines men as per society. The problem of BP's position is that they think men can forego their masculinity and still be men and that's the furthest thing from the truth. They explicitly talk about "roles associa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 02:33 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvcnx6-0GhA It's not ""TRPers can't read very well" - it's more like we don't agree with the terms that you've conveniently interpret on your end to justify your own argument. You can't have an intellectually honest argument if we aren't using the same terms that correspond with the same meaning. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masculinity can you at least be a bit intellectually honest here? Literally the first and second paragraph of the link: "One of the most f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:42 PM
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So basically besides snipping more post from gender studies, you really got nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 11:22 AM
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Blackness and homosexuality refer to innate properties of someone. You are born black or gay. Masculinity refers to societal standards and expectations on men. You can adhere to masculine gender norms if you want to. Lol... so according to OP people are not born male. It's like ask if basic biology like having a dick or more testosterone doesn't matter. Also... Masculinity refers to societal standards and expectations on men Nice bait and switch on the definition, except it's not the conventiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 11:20 AM
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They want something specific, something good quality, most guys are not good quality Everyones perception of good quality is different, but generally it would be someone you're attracted to and personality goes well with. Of course there are other big factors like social standing, jobs, finances etc too. So basically according to you, most guys "don't have something that most ppl are attracted to and the personality to go with it... and for some girls that might also include factors such as soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 11:12 AM
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Define "good quality".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:58 AM
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Relevant video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lp-ONTyMkM
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:58 AM
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I'm gonna be real. I picked up on your shaming tactics and bad faith posting in these sentences alone. I'm quite honestly tired of dealing with closed minded red pill lovers who can't comprehend anything but their narrow world view. I'm going to be real too, how was my previous statement "shaming tactic and bad faith posting"? Are the statement not actually facts for the majority of the BP out there as per the general BP response to this post? Power struggles can always arise, it takes a mindful…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 10:45 AM
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What you're not getting is most people think the way you claim. But not my fiance and I. We recognize that power struggles are things we don't want in the relationship. So basically.. exceptions and hunt for unicorns... And the fact that your cannot wrap your head around this proves to me you are more closed minded than the blue pillers you chastise. It means to you there is nothing but black and white and nuanced Greys can never EVER exist. Does power struggle exist or does it not exist in rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 02:45 AM
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Now he's the most popular Canadian of all time. Debatable. If you push change some people are always going to bitch. Except those changes are not positive changes for those in Alberta and they have every right to raise concerns in a democratic society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 02:38 AM
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I suppose, there's just an inherent repulsion against women AND men who view their relationship through the lens of a power struggle. and that is exactly the difference between the Bluepill and the redpill. There must be times where there's power struggle in a relationship... even in a team environment there has to be divide of responsibilities and which person controls which domains. The problem with the Bluepill is they completely deny the existence or ignore said power struggle, and ofcourse …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 02:21 AM
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That's perfectly fine, but then why do women fear RP so much if men are just bidding to take back the power dynamic in the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 01:56 AM
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If anything, this thread highlights where the "redpill" and "bluepill" analogy comes from. Most BP in this thread are happily ignorant of sexual dynamics and how gender roles are important to relationship. The "redpill" stuff isn't 100% perfect and there maybe be exceptions... but bluepill's argument is either denial of these norms or telling men to seek out these exceptions.... and they are call "exceptions" for a reason. Ignorance is true bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 01:54 AM
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Around the world, except the for largest economy that's conveniently south of Canada's border apparently...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 01:45 AM
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As a Canadian, I can attest that Justin Trudeau is a soyboy... He never actually answer any questions during the questioning period besides giving meaningless slogans. he got pushed into buying the Kinder Morgan Pipeline, just to have the thing blew up in his face when a judge blocks it from being built, and then he blames the previous government for writing said laws which leads to the judge's decision instead of owning him and his party for not doing due diligence... meanwhile more and more pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 01:44 AM
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Should head over the /r/communism or /r/latestagecapitalism, because there's still a bunch of people out there that thinks communism works, or it fails because capitalist countries are actively interfering with said countries (it's not like any other countries, regardless of political/economic systems, hasn't actively sabotage other countries throughout history), corruption (because every countries, communist or not, is still vulnerable to corruption), or "it's not real communism" (because if so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 02:09 PM
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I found /r/menslib anything but a men's liberation. It's full of underlying messages that "discuss" men's problem in society, but is afraid to talk about what caused these issue, because anyone of average intelligence and an unbias mind will know that today's men's problem stem from a society that favors women over men in certain areas including law, the application of said laws, social media as well as the portrayal of men in today's media.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 10:27 PM
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/r/purplepilldebate is next
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 08:31 PM
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Except that RP says that even unattractive women can get a ton of sex just by spreading their legs, which of course they can, but of course most women do not want anything like this. Agreed - what they want is attention when they are young, and then a way to secure a betabuck when they get old. Less attractive women have less ability to get either of those things compared to more attractive women. The focus here is what men actually want, which isn't just low-N count or nice shy submissive women…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 12:36 AM
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Define "types of women". You can totally avoid high n-count and AF/BB if you go toward shy/nerdy/or religious women. Not every women spend her 20s sleeping around with Chad or having fwb. What I noticed is that Tinder/Insta/Party women are the most popular with men. My theory is this - The reason why women have a high N count or an AF/BB attitude is because they have high SMV and can afford to do these things. It is obvious that less attractive women would have a lower N-count and will not have …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 09:12 PM
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I have little empathy for men who say it’s too hard. I think a lot of women are the same. Except I'm not asking whether you should have empathy for those men who doesn't try, but for those why are trying and learning the game. I think the problem with BP is not that RP doesn't try, but RP did try and found success and answers. BP doesn't like the answers RP found despite the fact that it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 04:51 PM
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So your solution is to just indulge in hypergamy? Serial dating... You meet new people and you do a price discovery between your worth in the market vs the value out there in the market. "If you're a tall buff guy, you should be happy to settle with an ugly fat women with no discipline!" That makes no sense and any sane human would say that's extremely unbalanced. I think I've state that I don't like to argue in black and white logic. You either keep gaining your SMV, or decrease your standard s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 04:37 PM
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A man could be perfectly polite and respectful and charming and all that good shit, and be 5'10 and fairly muscular, BUT if a guy with the same personality comes around, who is 6'1 and even MORE muscular, the first guy's gonna get rejected, despite doing everything 100% right. Well then there's your answer... and from there on you can continue to make the below choices... get more muscular, settle for a women with lower standards, or somewhere in between. The key is that he know he's doing 100% …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 03:50 PM
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Men without experience should be going after similar lower SMV girls at the start, not high-n Stacey types. People have to be objectively aware of their own SMV and go after their SMV-match. Unfortunately there's no "I'm not that experienced" carved on a girl's forehead or some sorta of XP meter like a video game. I just mean that there are only so many things that a guy can control in himself. And yes, there are consistent things that a man can control in himself that will be successful (liftin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 01:54 PM
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There is no one single consistent reason for past failure. There are many and they vary depending on the girl and the environment. I find it funny that it has to be all "depend on the girl"... men can't control everything in their environment but they'll still optimize themselves so they can be in a position to best succeed. I think that's the fundamental disagreement we are having: You say when men failed, it's because each girl is different. I wholly disagree and there most be at least some si…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 11:02 AM
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Bluepillers: Self improvement makes me special, just have game bro, anyone can make it if they work hard and believe in themselves, something something improve your social skills/social intelligence/blah, women are queens you need to impress, major in STEM bro Disagree - From what I've gather from most BP is that people should be themselves even if it's to their detriment. Self-improvement is worthless because "you aren't being true to yourself and therefore you are a fake". If you failed to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 02:46 AM
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Men need to stop being so hard on themselves - getting rejected by a girl doesn’t always mean it was 100% the man’s attractiveness. This obsessive introspection, persistently asking Why, is rumination; It’s a negative feedback loop that will only keep men stuck. Disagree - Men needs to know the reason for their failure so they do not repeat their past mistakes. This goes for anything including dating. Have you hear the phase "Insanity is trying the same thing 100 times and expecting different re…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 02:30 AM
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In pre-historical days, if the parents didn't survive ... no one would fend for the young.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/18 01:45 PM
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"Women also tend to leave the workforce for periods to raise children, seek jobs that may have more flexible hours but lower pay, and choose careers that tend to have lower pay. (BLS data show that women who have never married have virtually no wage gap; they earn nearly 94 cents for every dollar a man makes.)" https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/14/here-are-the-facts-behind-that-79-cent-pay-gap-factoid/?utm_term=.e26554238845 " survey earlier this year of America, Austra…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 10:36 AM
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but again... 77% on the dollar isn't a systemic issue either (women choose to have a family over career and women choosing not to be in STEM fields). Didn't stop people from making a fuss about it. Back on topic thou... are women having an easier time then men in the the dating scene a systemic issue? I kinda agree with OP here because whining doesn't help. Unfortunately BP often shoot down RP when they offer solutions, but meanwhile offer no solutions on their own... now that's solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 10:29 AM
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Sure dude. . Like male sucide rate vs female sucide rate, donation and activism of male prostate cancer vs breast cancer, male homelessness rate... etc... i could go on but you can continune to be ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 09:41 AM
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Except their studies are quantifiable data about "the real world (TM)"... while "going outside" only limits your viewpoints from your own perspective rather then random sampling. I don't agree that people need to match with each other (people have different needs and standards) but to tell people to disregard scientific studies by "going outside" is rather disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 11:15 AM
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I think BP fails to under position regarding "false rape accusation" - BP thinks RP's arguement is how about prevalent False rape accusation is. There is the further things from the truth. RP and the manosphere's fear of "false rape accusation" is the cost - their future is ruined because they pissed off the wrong girl, or some girl he slept with had regrets after the fact. They'll be forever branded as a criminal in the eye of society even when the the accusation were proven false. It's hard to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 09:58 PM
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Nothing in this world is risk free: this is the delusion of the sheltered millennial living in the comfort of the first world having first world problems who just happens to be all bluepill and left leaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 02:26 AM
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Which is true, but if we look at turning that into action men want the eights and the nines, not the fives. Either because the men are unaware they are below them or they are aware but dreams take over rationality. And this is how men with rejection issues are created Your theory falls apart because the Manosphere/TRP teaches men ways on how to deal with rejection (keep trying and increase SMV). It's like as if people can't understand cause and effect in this day and age. Blaming the manosphere …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 02:23 AM
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Also, reproductive coercion is as common the other way, men doing it to women. Common doesn't equal always. As long as there is paternity fraud and other ways for women to cheat the system; men should be protected. it's that trying to differentiate between an accidental pregnancy and a deliberate one is an almost useless exercise. Protecting a person's property, integrity, and not saddle him with financial burden should never be a useless exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 12:57 PM
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I'll say there's a slight improvement in the States regarding this situation, but the Laws are still bias against men in this regard. For example if a man was already "acting in the father role" but then found out that he's not the biological father... he cannot bail out of Child support. Also paternity test is outright illegal in the EU.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 12:54 PM
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I don't know about you, but what you've summarized is basically what I'll call "RP Knowledge". While I agree that that's not the whole message of RP and there's also a lot of negative aspect of RP (dread game, LMR, etc). There's a lot of good in RP that men, especially younger men, should take away from in order to be a healthy, functional male in today's society instead of popping happy pills. Furthermore to determine actual facts: It is an individual's job to not take any information that was …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 01:46 PM
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Except I'm not. Just to be clear: this is under the automod.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 09:39 PM
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I think the hilarious part is the answer is reversed and how females would have answered "how would you lived as a guy/how would you raised your sons"... They all think picking up girls is easy and that being a guy means you can go around and do whatever you want. They are oblivious to the struggles of men. This also reminds me of this documentary of a girl who pretended to be a guy for 3 months... and in the end she ended up realizing life as a man isn't as easy as she would have imagined. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 09:22 PM
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(The people on TheRedpill and Gold diggers are similar.)In the sense they have this fatal attraction to toxic attractive people (extremely hot men and women who don't really care much about others) and end up getting burnt. Disagree: Gold Diggers aren't after the person; they are after the money. Even if they met a genuinely nice person this wouldn't factor in into their equation because they're not hot enough to be considered as individuals according to them. Define "genuinely nice" - also who …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 03:39 PM
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Will /r/banout affect /r/purplepilldebate in any way? Are we on the list?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 12:27 AM
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Most women are lower middle class or poor. Most people are lower middle class or poor. Completely disagree - the problem is that most of views focus on women only... except for the fact that gender is binary. For every "More than 1 in 7 women (nearly 18.4 million) lived in poverty in 2014." there's 6 in 7 men living in poverty in 2014... which means that while there's a large group of women that are poor... but a way larger group of men that's also equally poor... the problem is ofcourse that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 11:20 AM
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So the yin of the women is that she's ready to settle down after she's in her 30s and passed her biological prime, while the yang of the guy is that he's finally got enough cash, a house, and a steady job. and in the event they both falter at least they have each other. No that's usually when the women wants a divorce... the "stand by her men" attitude died ages ago due to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 11:09 AM
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except "love" involves an exchange between two individuals which results in emotional bonding. OP is saying that from the view of most today's women... men that aren't in the top 20% has nothing to offer. It's great that you "love" your husband... but again in general women don't find the average men attractive and doesn't add significant value to their lives. Furthermore, these women thing the problem lies in the men themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 11:04 AM
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It's actually scary because it's true. It can't even be quantified in a divorce when "she doesn't love him anymore"... and then despite having custody of his children, taking the house and the money and alimony... it's still not enough from her perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 11:01 AM
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Why do so many women still follow radical feminism when men are against that kinda thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 11:03 PM
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It's almost as if men who expect to work full time but don't want to put their fair share into the domestic duties should ya know, not marry women who want to also want to work full time. God forbid they do and then feel "forced into being a housekeeper" because their wife who is working full time wants them to contribute fairly. https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/9dm06b/are_women_unhappy_without_traditional_gender_roles/e5jiix4/ Re-read what you posted here. You are assuming tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 06:51 AM
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What do you take issue with with the idea that men who want a more traditional role in which the woman does the maj housework and doesn't work whereas he does should probably pick women who want that too? Actually that's my argument to you. Why do you make the assumption that a women automatically choose to have a more career oriented life and not a more stay at home mom lifestyle? The very same reason why SAMH are being looked down upon society is because of BP like you who makes the assumption…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 06:43 AM
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Because of this comment "It's almost as if men who expect to work full time but don't want to put their fair share into the domestic duties should ya know, not marry women who want to also want to work full time. " - ... because you only want to view the world in black and white when it suits your narrative and that's truly a very narrow and juvenile way to view an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 06:27 AM
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Or these men can find some women who will dedicate their effort into domestic duties while the guy makes the banks. Unfortunately these women are being lied to because they are expected to "have it all" between a career, family, social life, etc... the greatest lie in the 21st Century is work-life balance, because we are all limited to 24 hours a day and something's gotta give. Also I suspect /u/sublimemorgrel has never been in a relationship because she doesn't understand the word "compromise".…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 06:20 AM
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Having just looked up the stats, I'd quibble with "women have a majority" today because >50% is not a majority; it's significantly more than it used to be, sure, but that's also reflected in the changing character of ads. Majority = Greater then 50%. Works in politics or in any feminist literature where they sway people to believe in the patriarchy narrative. I get what you mean thou but I'm not here to play word games. Can you think of a reason why these ads are common today, and not in the 199…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 06:05 AM
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Could you people stop with that? A man needs to be tall to sexually successful? The vast majority of Europeans are under 6 feet Fine. tall relative to their peers. Don't be ugly(average face is good enough). Consider that Average is 50% and above... half the male population is screwed Don't be fat(easy af). Tell that to the fat acceptance movement on the other thread Don't be 5 feet tall. K. Who do I go to to get taller? That's it. You are not going to be getting laid with 10/10, 17 year old Jen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 05:00 PM
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!redditsilver
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:54 PM
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So consider this: before all those BP and feminist complain about being sexist and ads with women with "unrealistic" body types; women has a majority in the media/advertising industry. It's the same with fashion industry as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 11:14 AM
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For a self-help place, TRP is filled with a lot of negativity and bitter people. Personally, I think part of the reason is that they promote so much toxic masculinity. They probably think its cool and masculine, but it ultimately leaves them depressed. Typical SJW; putting the cart before the horse. TRP exist because men seeks answers for all the problems they have in their lives which caused the negativity and bitterness, not the reverse. It's like you are trying to blame alcohol anonymous for …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 10:40 AM
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Men - what are your opinions on a society that tells perfectly pretty women they're allowed to AND are still attractive to be fat? How do you fight a social movements that de-emphasizes female beauty? One major point that was missed in this discussion is that the Fact acceptance movement only talks about accepting fat women, not men. Society tell us a lot of things: You must have fast cars, living the party life, be popular on social media, always be mindful not to Rape (eye rape, saying high to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 09:37 PM
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I think you mis-understand my point... I'm saying that sexual attraction and relationship potential are not always the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 02:19 PM
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These results are what women want relationship wise, NOT necessarily what they're most sexually attracted to. TRP cares mostly about sexual attraction and women can be sexually attracted to older men... while still wanting a long term relationship with someone their age. I see no contradiction there... or your article here really doesn't disprove anything TRP said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 01:39 AM
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Women are against "locker room talk" when "locker room talk" means "bragging about how you sexually assault women." Some of what I'm talking about happens right in front of women as well as men; a man came into my office last year loudly complaining about his wife because she wouldn't do anal with him anymore. Trust me, the feminazi police were nowhere in sight. Women need their safe space; so do men. The point is that men are not allowed to talked freely in lockerrooms and you've just proven my…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 06:25 PM
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You live in an alternate reality if you actually think this happens. I hear guys I work with throwing around similar complaints about women all the time. Men who honestly think tRP is some sort of bastion of free thought speaking truth to power need to get out more. You mean like how women are against men's lockerroom talk? Also I've asked for your example of other spaces where men can speak freely without being judged by women. You didn't provide any. Please provide to defend your point No, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 05:41 PM
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First of, I'd reply that the red pill is not "one of the only places" where men can talk about their experiences with sex and relationships. Nine times out of ten men and their perspectives on these topics are treated as more worthwhile and valuable than women's by default. Plenty of men feel incredibly comfortable voicing their own opinions about women and dating in general, occasionally to the point that it blurs the line between "conversation" and "harassment." Some me where... and where else…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 04:58 PM
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I nearly go shot by a chick. Should I be upset and all chicks? Yet all men are Rapist, and should be educated to stop raping women? The problem here is that BP appeal to logic when it supports their narrative, yet runs back to the "misogyny" defense when the very same logic is used against them. Neither arguments are right, but where were you when the #metoo movement and Title IX went too far?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 10:01 PM
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Reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgGLFozNM2o&t=22s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 02:57 AM
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That's because these BP sophist are doing their "duck and cover" tactic... when they are asked hard questions like solutions to how men can better themselves in the SMV, or ask to show any proof in their beliefs, they "duck" under the guise of BP being satire so they don't have to proof and be responsible for the well being of their fellow men. Meanwhile anything that RP preaches that makes women looks bad automatically made them scream "misogyny" and "RP is bad because we tell men to follow sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 02:25 AM
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BP doesnt have to do or prove shit, bluepillers just like laughing at TRP spergs and pointing out their hilarious and sometimes scary misogyny. So basically, you show no sympathy for those who are struggling and trying to learn how to socialize. Sadly your type of attitude is very prevalent to those in the BP. Where you get your dating advice is none of our concern nor is dating advice the point of TBP. Then why do you criticize or care about people following TRP? There's plenty of mainstream da…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 02:18 AM
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Was Op really "objective" to begin with? so what’s your “most charitable” summary with that in mind? If I want to be obnoxious and pretend I'm right in everything... I'll make my own post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 09:58 PM
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The post claim to be "the most charitable interpretation of TRP" when it's obviously not. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 10:39 AM
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It doesn't disprove the fact that the things that he listed do suck thou.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 10:37 AM
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I'm a guy. Hormones, youth naivete, and lacking of actual experience to see a person for what they are and instead putting her on a pedestal. Everyone must have a oneitis at least once in their life as a trial to reach maturity and enlightenment, to understand the opposite gender, and to be rid of the perceived notion of relationship that was in our younger heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/18 01:29 PM
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Both men and women tend to contact people more desirable than them (specifically, 25% more desirable). And hardly anyone contacts someone significantly less desirable. Hmm.. how does that work? either both parties have a perceived sense of self-worth less then what they actually are, or at least one party inflated their desirability more then what is really is... Women’s desirability peaks high at age 18, then declines dramatically with age; men’s desirability peaks at 50 (however the desirabili…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/18 01:19 PM
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You say Narcissist; We say self-empowerment. Tomato, To-mato...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/18 11:43 AM
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Metoo should be improving the economy! metoo should be fighting the rampant corruption in Mexican government! metoo should be preventing foreign women from marrying native men just for a green card! etc etc etc. That's not what I've asked... worse case of poisoning the well ever. All I've ask is should #metoo be against rape and sexually harassment... even when the victim is men and then perpetrator is women? All I've learned from this question for trps is that you fellas are extremely ignorant …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/18 03:54 AM
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It doesn't.. that's the point... because #metoo should also be helping men too when they are the victim... because #metoo should be "investigate it thoroughly" instead of being branded a rapist on social media as soon as accusations comes out... And that is why your argument... and the movement itself fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 10:43 PM
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The first post? Look there's an accusation against a woman being posted online. And we can all read about it and investigate it. Exactly what metoo is about. Except... again feminist preached about rape accusation is "listen and believe." and that includes the #metoo movement. That second link? You're just posting links about a crime that a woman committed? You don't actually think that blue pillers somehow think that women don't commit crimes or something right? Again - the women was convicted …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 08:48 PM
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The problem is the hypocrisy - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/metoo-leader-cristina-garcia-california-sexual-harassment-accusation-groping-man-a8202766.html (we are told to "listen and believe"... unless it's about women harassing men) https://nypost.com/2018/06/26/woman-forced-ex-to-have-sex-holding-machete-to-his-face-cops/ (no rape charges on the women wielding an axe and rapes a men... where's the me too movement when males are the victims?)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 05:59 PM
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You can be lonely too when you are married or with a significant other So I fail to see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 10:09 AM
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One thing that I've noticed about relatively inexperienced men who turn to TRP, PUA advice, or complain about losing out badly when it comes to casual sex in general, is the belief that somewhere out there the chads of the world are sleeping with a new hot girl every weekend. And indeed that's what The Red Pill, PUA snakeoil salesmen, men's magazines, The Blackpill, incels, and even real life locker room talk would have you believe if you took their words at face value. We can agree that it's le…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 09:54 PM
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Like very famous men, actors, athletes, etc. Do you mean like Tom cruise (divorced three times) or Brad Pitt (Married and divorced Angelina Joline, and Jennifer Anderson), Dwilght Howard (got at least 6 baby mamas).... they switch their spouses in the long run anyways... the difference is that they can actually afford to pay them.. and then paid them off cuz they are filthy rich. They have easy access to thousands of women, but still decide to engage in monogamy instead of having sex with multip…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 07:57 PM
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1: How should men respond to the "winner-take-all" dynamic in which extremely talented/handsome/intelligent men scoop up all the hottest women? Is that not fundamentally painful and envy-inducing? What should men do in this scenario? It is that way for almost all aspect of life: The winner of the race takes the trophy, the Smart/Hard working students get As, The best Candidate gets the job.... etc. 2: What do you guys think of the "daddy's little girl" dynamic in which your dad spoils your littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 11:01 PM
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If you are a dude shooting fucking blanks, shit doesn't matter. If you're on highly effective birth control as a man, it doesn't matter as much. How is that different then men using condoms? Condoms are scientifically proven to be 90+% effective. So what if women are limited to having sex with men who are able to support raising children? As stated before... that'll be regressive to the sexual liberation of the second wave feminism... and another reason why I call you a regressive, sexist indivi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:47 AM
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I don't think I'm misogynist. Regressive? Maybe for men only - women have other options. Sexist? Only so much as nature and biology are sexist. Dude... marriage and child-rearing is a responsibility for both parents. So when you are enforcing that men to only have sex when they are prepared to have children... you are literally limiting the same option for women; and that is limited women to only have sex with men who are able to support raising children... I don't think you understand biology..…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:33 AM
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If most men did this, there would be a hell of a lot fewer problems with unplanned pregnancies, regretful sex, and all the other risks that come from casual sex. It takes two to tango, and for men to have sex, there must be a women who's willing to have sex with that man and share the risk of pregnancy. Taken to the extreme: Men cannot have sex before marriage, and if they do they'll be forced to marry that women and that sounds pretty much what they do in the olden days. Basically what you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 12:14 AM
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I'm a guy, red leaning: We should allow abortion, but it should not be paid for the the state. People can do whatever they want with their bodies, but the government shouldn't pay for the individual's mistakes. We should only go as far as to incentives and educate the population so they don't make mistakes in their lives. Abortion is actually a cheaper alternative then supporting welfare for a children being raised in a broken family and trying to pour money to feed people that will not produce …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 01:21 AM
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Not sure what you meant by this, but yes. In general people only give attention to those they found attractive, male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 01:26 AM
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I'm a guy: Will turn down. They can only see skin-deep and failed to see the other qualities that I have (or put more "weight" on my other appearance) despite the fact that I was overweight. Edit: clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 01:11 AM
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No... all study should have a reality check to their conclusion... again, is women worst off in mexico or in the states? If not then why are there so many illegal immigrants flocking acorss the border? Do you see women fleeing to india, Pakistan, or syria? Liberal and feminist are literally departing from reality here
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 06:58 PM
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but that's what that study/survey was about: women. why would this particular study/survey that was designed to look at worst countries for women cite numbers for countries that are worst for society as a whole? that has nothing to do with BP or liberal views; it's just looking at the information that the study was specifically designed for. So basically it's designed to be bias, or would you actually believe that women in South Africa, Mexico, or any other third world country is better off in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:48 PM
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but that's what that study/survey was about. why would this particular study/survey that was designed to look at worst countries for women cite numbers for countries that are worst for society as a whole? Because women are a part of said society? It's like saying that just because there's less inequality between the the men and women of Uganda then the US, women are better of in Uganda then the US... which is completely not true. I also find it strange that the study definitely didn't include wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:32 PM
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Its low performance for sexual and nonsexual violence, however, was enough to get it into the top 10 worst offenders. Again. Do you actually believe that US is lower for nonsexual violence then Venezuela which is undergoing a regime change, or South Africa which top the highest homicide rate? Again.. the fault of BP and Liberal views is that you limit your views in identity politics. A country that suffers problems in violence only counts in the study if you only count violence against women as …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:22 PM
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And it's pretty sad you actually believe this. Edit: it's basically a game of naming more then 9 other countries that is worst then US. Vietnam and Thailand for starters has underage prostitution problems, and there's definite more then 9 other countries that has worst "overall" healthcare, non-sexual violence, human discrimination then the US for anybody (most of South Africa and the middle east) and not just for any particular gender. I question who those "500 experts" that form the survey act…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 04:22 PM
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I didn't need to make an "eloquent counter-argument" because your "argument" wasn't based in reality in the first place. then explain how the article came up with the conclusion that US is one of the worse country for women... worst then places under shia muslims in the middle east, Nigeria where schoolgirls are kidnapped by Boko Haram, or India where rape literally happened on the street? Which "reality" did you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 04:12 PM
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if sex is the only thing that gets you to pay attention to the problems in the relationship, isn’t she kind of right to withhold it? Isnt it kind of your fault? Honestly, if sex is the only thing that gets your husband to pay attention to you... the relationship (and partially yourself) has a problem. Why should she reward continuous bad behavior with sex knowing you’ll now have no initiative to change? Because positive reinforcement also works? It's hilarious that people in this day of age won'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 10:08 AM
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Does OP believe that having more experience would have an effect on one's perception of the next set of experience? Does it not follow logic that if you have a bad experience, your expectation of the next similar experience would be worse? Does it not follow that if you have a good experience in a relationship, you wouldn't want to end it and even seek the prolong said relationship into marriage? And what does it say about the women who, despite having an overall positive experience in a relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 12:22 AM
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I'm red leaning, but I believe it is not as bleak as it seems. Obviously for a marriage to work, both partner have to compromise. The compromising part on behalf of the husband is probably what most people see as "pussy whipped". At the end of the day, only the couple themselves knows what each other compromised for the sake of their relationship and if they are getting a fair deal in return. The problem is that society in general catered to the female in marriages (divorce settlements, child cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 10:21 PM
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The grand dillusion of the left is that they can actually dictates popular opinions via media and that if it was shown enough time on twitter/facebook/TV/etc people will get brainwashed by it. In reality people would watch only what's genuinely good and what they wanted to see, and in return the shows cater to their audiences... women consume more mass media then men and it's no surprised that they'll like a certain female stereotypes and male stereotypes like the loving mom who tend to their ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 10:59 AM
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Question for OP: how do you feel about a man who is making changing SPECIFICALLY to meet better women? All with the intention of getting laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 01:58 AM
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Being born male shouldn't relegate someone to the role of someone's meat shield or walking wallet, and it shouldn't mean the devaluation of a man's humanity if he finds himself in distress or if he fails to fulfill the role of meat shield or provider. That's how society is today and feminism offers no solution for ending this, even as they scream about equal rights and how they supposedly help men. What individual or society-wide solutions might work to put an end to this? The solution isn't abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 01:50 AM
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It just seems like the vest way to get rid of toxic masculinity and equality between the genders is to reduce the amount of physiological and biological differences between the genders. Typical Leftist fantasy ideas... can you really enforce the two genders to be rid of their gender identities, how would one achieve in doing that, and what's the moral implications of doing these things? Would you force male boys to cut off their testosterone by cutting off their balls or take estrogen supplement…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 06:49 PM
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They'll look like Korean boys. https://www.google.ca/search?q=korean+boys&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwivoKjJ3-PbAhVK3IMKHVg6AmoQ_AUICigB&biw=1304&bih=702
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 02:50 AM
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The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilizat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 02:34 AM
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I agree that there's a certain way to apply TRP. It's probably helpful to varying degrees to all aspects of life. But the problem arises when you broadly apply all the concepts blindly across the board. You are asking a bunch of guys who doesn't have much experience or successful experience on women on how to apply concepts? Ofcourse they'll try to apply it blindly (because of the lack of experience) and they'll apply it broadly because it'll be trial and error. To expect anything else otherwise…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:26 PM
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Close. You are not wrong when it comes to the application of BP/RP. The problem is that there is no Long Term when there's no Short Term. If men can't even get a date or maintain a girl's interest for a few dates, how are they going to become relationship material? That's why most RP call the BP's "method" BS. Solely being nice to girls, caring and providing for them can gets you from Short term to Long term, but it'll also get you from initial contact to friendzone with a hefty credit card bill…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:10 AM
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Do your own research. You think every business owner is out there playing fair and legally? No Basically your reply is "educate yourself"... lol... It's your position in your argument. Defend it yourself, you are a strong [Insert your gender here]. I have no problem with men trying to avoid getting exploited by women. It's the hypocrisy that comes out of the movement. The above article is about avoiding Machiavellian women but the majority of game contains Machiavellian tactics? So men get a fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:20 PM
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Edit: oh maybe I think I know what you're trying to say. Here's the problem: red pill is based on the idea of splitting people into "red pill" and "blue pill" camps. Anyone who unironically calls themselves blue pill has implicitly accepted the fundamental premise of red pill: the existence of the blue pill. In other words blue pill can only be defined by red pill. Red pill is unable to do this and red pillers who attempt to define it find out that non-red-pill do not subscribe to their definiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:14 PM
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Then what are morals? Or even ethics? Morals and ethics are society's beliefs on what's just and fair. So tell me again how is RP immoral and lacking ethics? RP is amoral... not immoral. Because if you want to talk about CEOs' there are plenty of them who have compromised their morals and exploited people. Citation needed. By your definition any exchange of labour for monetary value is exploitation... you'll also be surprised how CEO are governed by the Board of Directors and how business ethics…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:07 PM
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MGTOW: I hate that women get on Instagram and Snapchat with all their selfies and their narcissism. All they want is validation and attention…. Attention whores. …. As they type in the echo chamber of Reddit seeking validation and attention from each other and screaming obscenities at everyone with opposing views. Are people not allow to discourse within their own social circle? Are they broadcasting their message to the whole Reddit like how girls post stuff in Instragram? MGTOW: We care nothin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 10:25 PM
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You realize that Machiavellianism is linked to Sociopathic behavior? Dictators and Hitler were Machiavellian. 1) Slippery Slope... 2) You've also realized that 1 in 5 CEO are Psychopaths right? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/1-in-5-ceos-are-psychopaths-australian-study-finds/ Dictators and Hitler were Machiavellian, but so are a lot of people. Tom Cruise, Steve Jobs... You are literally picking people who committed genocide and then applied the trait to everyone else who's against y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 10:15 PM
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The fact that you acknowledge that "blue pill" lacks a unified message just underscores that it doesn't exist. So if a unified message doesn't exist, how can BP have a concise argument? The requirement of the BP strawman is existential to RP. Disagree, and I'll leave it at that because all I need to do is disagree. (see what I did there?) TRP and TBP are definitely subreddits. They are more then subreddits... and in order to debate there must be opposing arguments. My criticism of BP is that whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 11:45 PM
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TBP and TRP are subreddits. Except they are not. Two subreddits don't have another subreddit dedicated to debating each other. The fact is that what RP calls blue pill is either (a) undefined or (b) not anything anyone actually holds up as model behavior except red pillers. The Fact is RP criticizes BP has having no position and no solution to the problems today's male faces rings true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:50 PM
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So basically it's that good ol' "TBP isn't a position, because it doesn't hold any position besides it's against TRP"... so Since this is a debate sub and if TBP doesn't have a position, can the BP here concede their point because they don't have a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:29 PM
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The problem is that human emotions are often unpredictable by it's very own nature and for the sake of analysis we should eliminate what's unpredictable as these random factors can't be assumed to applied on a general basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:24 PM
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Lol. You still don't understand what he means and the perspective of the RP. We don't do it out of vice, but realized that manipulation is part of the game. People manipulate each other all the time and the redpill is part of the enlightenment and it opened a broad range of possibilities of what people can do in the dating scene. Also we can describe your attitude on this with how you react when you got downvoted: Cuz I got downvoted too and I don't give two shit about reddit karma while you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:21 AM
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You show the girl enough money and she agrees. A contract is establish where cash is exchanged for services... the man does his business and then leaves. That's the only "safe" legally enthusiastic consent there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 02:16 AM
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or it describes an ingrained prejudice of women, possibly including valuing a woman based on her attractiveness So what do you call women who value men base on his wealth or attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 02:10 AM
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According to my experience TRP's knowledge about women seems to be very limited and narrow. Even at 15 I had a deeper understanding of women than the whole sidebar combined. r/im14andthisisdeep
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 01:57 AM
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So yes AWALT might be true for you and TRP might work for you, but it's still just a self-reinforcing cycle that doesn't offer you any real insight to a broader spectrum of women. And why do we need to know that? Do you need to be a car mechanic to know how to drive? Narcissists are not only tolerant of narcissism in their friends, they also are not turned off by the selfishness, arrogance, and bossiness that would drive non-narcissists away. That explains 90% of the TBP crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 01:55 AM
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That's not what he said. He's saying if women does it, so should men. We aren't saying either is okay, we are saying that's how the game is played.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 01:50 AM
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Maybe... just maybe because in the BP world... marriage involves actual home ownership, at least 50K on the wedding/honeymoon, and that'll equal a whole lot of commitment, especially when it sits squarely on the shoulders on the male? It's entirely a leftist delusion that most men will be financially ready to take on the burden of marriage. Most can't even find a decent paying job straight out of college.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 05:42 PM
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My whole argument is that average doesn't equal median, and why men are considered unattractive is because they are below the median attractiveness even if they are average looking. Does that make sense? If you argument is directed against RP, then you have no argument because RP agrees. as I've said on my other reply... RP believe in the 80/20 rule and if the average american is overweight... simply losing that weight will move then up. Also it's the average american that's becoming obese and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 05:33 PM
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I was currently getting that women have similar standards regarding men as they did 20 years ago citation needed. but men are getting less healthy and fewer are meeting female standards. Perfectly fine, except women's obesity and the average rate of obesity in America has also gone up as well. What's your perspective on women who maintained the same standards as they did 20 years ago, but are also getting fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 03:21 PM
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I think what you failed to understand is that Median =/= average: For example... in a sample size of {10,1,1,1,1,1,1,1} you average is 2.125. Your Median is 1. If you argument is to argue that most men are unattractive.. then you are already agreeing with RP. The 80/20 rule covered this down pat and that's why RP drives so hard at self-improvement because even without a big of improvement... you could beat the average "overweight" men. https://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/definition/statistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 03:17 PM
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What kind of educational programs can improve relationship/sex outcomes for men? Life.. and experience. The problem of this generation is that we became over-protective of our children... make them wear kiddie gloves and not be able to learn what was needed to learn via experience: Participation awards so no one seems like a failure, anti-bullying campaigns so it gets into the mindset that "big brother" will protect them from every little wrongs that was done against them, and shoving gender iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 03:18 AM
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I've ghosted girls on Tinder, Girls have ghosted me on Tinder... It's a Ghost Eat Ghost world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 12:41 AM
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No. That’s not what I am doing. Jfc. I am trying to see if men get offended when they get approached because men have said here several times that if a man finds you attractive he WILL approach you and if he doesn’t approach you it’s as if you’ve already been rejected. It means he doesn’t like you. Doesn't this depend on the person (introvert/extrovert), social situation, etc? I'm not sure what you are trying to prove here, especially when you frame it in such a narrow & impossible situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 10:37 AM
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The answer you are trying to bait out of us is that it's view negatively so one should reverse the gender and tell all the 5-6/10 men not to flirt aggressively out of the blue (day gaming) There's so many problems with this 1) the Male is always the "aggressive" one when it comes seeking relationship. It's their role in biology especially if, on the reverse, men is seeking casual sex. 2) A 5-6/10 or even lower men might even like that as it serves as an ego boost. 3) nuance matters. Most men kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 09:49 AM
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"women loving men for what they do" Or to be more specific - Women loves men for what they do to provide for them: wealth, status, protection, entertainment, comfort, etc. rather than “who they are”. Men can be good looking, successful, genuine, creative, etc. All this means nothing if it does not provide for them + trigger the reaction of attractiveness for the female. There lies your distinction. I would think that a person is made up of everything; their mannerisms, physical features, voice a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 09:06 PM
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I'll argue that we know from the women we actually lived with (AKA our family). One think OP has to remember that TRP isn't actually against women, but describe women's optimal mating strategy and general behavior. It's ironic how BPers claim AWALT is a bad thing, but meanwhile supports #yesallmen and #metoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 11:04 PM
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What specific personality traits and attributes defines a woman worthy of love and marriage in your 1) She has to have at least the same approximate level of attraction/intelligence/wealth as I do 2) She has to demonstrate that when a better option appeared, she continued to maintain the same level of devotion to me instead of immediately jumping ships. What is she getting out of this deal? In return... if better options do turn up in my life... I'll still maintain the same level of devotion to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 11:53 PM
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Men say that women should be less picky, should settle for whoever they can get. This is the exact opposite of what the females are supposed to do within their respective species, weed out the weak through natural selection. To ask a woman not to do that is asking her to cease being a woman. Disagree. At least TRP never said that women should be less picky... in fact the whole idea of hypergamy is that women are picky and men should understand why and comes to terms with it. So if men are going …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 12:48 AM
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In Norway the percentage of middle-age childless men has been growing proportionally much more compared to childless middle age women because a number of women would rather have kids with men that already fathered children since they have been proven to be good in the reproductive market and disregard beta or subpar males. They will start relying more and more on a social safety net generously offered by the Scandinavian socialdemocratic model, resorting to highly selected sperm donors to get pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 12:28 AM
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There is a difference between someone who doesn't like their partner going out because 'control' and someone who doesn't like their partner going out because they're lonely and don't have any friends. Sometimes its clear which it is, in this case it isn't just from the information given. There is is very telling of the current attitude of domestic abuse in today's society when it's done on men vs women. There's zero justification for 'controlling'(manipulative) partner in a relationship, whether…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 10:31 AM
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If you switch the genders and post this on /r/twoXX or /r/relationship they'll tell you that you are in a toxic and emotionally abusive relationship and should bail. It's sad tho in this day and age.. a women who's educated, cooks, makes her own money, and got banging good looks, would have considered to be a 9+ in my books. Being her emotional tampon is pretty bad thou. Campsite rules would dictates that you should at least try to make herself a bit more independent (having her own group of fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 07:13 AM
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When people are so far on the left... everything looks "right-wing" to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 07:00 AM
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Diseases and cancer aren't people. Disagree... SJW and radical feminists are literally cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 06:53 AM
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MGTOW do date. (there's some internal conflict between MGTOWs when if MGTOW can form casual relationship with women, but there are quite a few MGTOWs are encourage ppl to date) Redpillers are basically becoming MGTOWs, and I believe this will be harmful for the younger generation of men who will end up despising women which will prevent them from forming healthy relationships. CMV. So many things to take from this statement: 1) define healthy relationship. Redpill believe the current state of re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 06:40 AM
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The fact that tons of losers have girlfriends and get laid. I mean have any Red Pillers ever watched one of those Teen Mom shows? The boyfriends in those shows are generally morons, but obviously they've had some success with women. TV isn't reality. In fact it's actually quite sad that anyone would support their worldview and beliefs via Television. I think there's a certain subset of women that are exclusively hypergamous, but plenty of women are more open minded to the idea of dating someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 12:31 AM
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Do you think the average man struggles as much romantically as some RPers claim? Do you think the average man is born with the knowledge and experience of how to get girls? If not then you must agree they have to get those knowledge from somewhere, either thru experience or second-hand source. Furthermore you then must believe that for men to learn their way in the SMV, they'll have to struggle a bit in the learning process. Men with high SMV/RMV will often have more chance to experience things …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 11:02 AM
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Which would you rather have: your son as a relatively unattractive man, 5'5" tall with a rather ugly face - yet a heart of gold? He's intelligent, determined, and even a little athletic. He's also extremely sweet and caring, though he can take a stand for the issues he believes in. At 15, he has a religious awakening and decides to become a Quaker, and becomes committed to nonviolence and pacifism. He is outgoing and friendly, though at 17 he is slightly frustrated with his lack of success with …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 02:49 AM
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It's not so much as "denying internet rape" but as so much as you stating that they are done by "white autistic men" and implied it's a widespread paramedic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 06:11 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/03/us/youtube-hq-shooting/index.html does content creator shooting up the youtube HQ cuz she got hit by the ad-poclypose count?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 11:59 PM
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Back to the example: We are each responsible only for our own lives. I'll advised you not to get into the dramas of his life unless he comes asking for advise again. On that note, BP has always wondered why RP held such cynicism and have such views about women and relationship: this is an example why and maybe after she leaves him again he'll begin his path to seek the redpill. I think this would have been a great opportunity to show BP for their true nature if this was a double-blind test: let …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 10:24 PM
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Close: 1) Your example provided isn't about "respecting women at all". It's a simple case where a men demonstrating value (by attracting an 18 year old) leading the single mother to realized his value and re-commit. Unfortunately chances are this relationship probably won't last long as it requires external force for the women to see the man's value instead of coming to that conclusion on her own. She's just "hogging" him and will leave him on two weeks once the competition is out of the picture…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 10:01 PM
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So you are telling me they are raping women over the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 01:22 PM
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As stated before, the fundamental core of the RP/BP divide is whether the human is born good or evil. The truth is that morality is really just terms defined by human and society. RP's beliefs is that all women (and in fact, everyone) will cheat/leave a relationship under the right circumstances. The basic of AWALT is that biologically, women will always mate and seek out mate that's the best for her. The only constraint from her for doing so is inherited morals/beliefs she grew up with, experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 12:59 PM
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TRP doesn't mind dissenting opinions. They'll disagree and might mock him but he won't get banned. You've mistaken that with /r/thebluepill
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 12:24 PM
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username relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 10:41 AM
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I can understand why MGTOW reject marriage due to divorce rape, alimony, etc. But why don't MGTOW take a RP approach and seek LTR (without marriage) and ONS? Both TRP and MGTOW recommend self improvement, and TRP states this will help in terms of attracting women. Since MGTOW are already doing the self improvement, it's not like they have to go a completely different direction. Consider RP knowledge as theoretical science, and the differences between MGTOW, PUA and TRP as applied science. In thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 02:18 PM
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The problem is what's define as "low quality" and "high quality". Ultimately BP's definition of "high quality" women are career women who is already make above average income, high education, etc and TRP already has an answer to that: hypergramy - They will only look for those that have higher social status then they do and marry up. An average male offering resources to them, even if those women aren't that good looking, will still yield no results. Also on that note: TRP's definition of "value…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 12:33 AM
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You know something rather interesting? Our biases, the biases that you remarked there, make us somewhat sure, or sure enough to make the exchange. In real life, we know, rationally, that we can't be SO aware about the compatibility, we are conscious that we can not have so much certainty, but we ARE certain. We believe we are sure. Now here I TOLD people they are sure. I remarked it ALL ALONG THE WAY. I did it because I wanted people to assess the conflicting values freely and went as far as poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 10:37 PM
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After seeing the few responses, I've come to see one of the main problems in PPD. When OP posed this question; she probably asking in a more general term. Meanwhile most men respond to in specific term and ask what they "individually" contributed. Basically put, when BP tried be critical, they are being critical to "all men" and the RP men all take these attacks personally. Back to the question, and there's so many ways to tacking it: 1) If SMV is truly "a market place" then it's up to the indiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 03:02 AM
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You basically told me that I must be making assumptions about men, but then assumed that I'm a typical leftist feminist and am claiming victimhood. I'm saying you made the same bad assumption about men as typical leftist feminist. (more on the victimhood next) If you'd bothered to read the other responses to my OP, you'd have seen that I actually did provide a real-world example from personal experience that is very similar to my hypothetical (link). I never asked this guy for commitment, nor di…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 01:24 AM
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Literally shitpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 02:51 PM
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Lol again with the strawmanning. Where did I say that a man must commit after having sex with a woman? OP clearly laid out a scenario where the guy’s intent was to deceive her by stating, “ the guy says that he’s looking for a relationship (but he isn’t)”. Her including “but he isn’t” wasn’t just there for decoration, it was intended to create a scenario where the guy is purposely and intentionally deceiving her. Either learn to read the actual words in an argument before you start running your …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 02:06 PM
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How does a man prove that he was deceived by a woman that led him on and used him for money and free stuff? When was "free stuff" ever mention in any of my response? are you responding to the correct comment here? Or are you actually implying that just because the guy gives the women free stuff, he's offering "commitment". In that case I'm all for that and will suggest that TRP would never preach giving women free stuff as that's a beta move. Every guy here wails about how “unfair” it is that me…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 01:25 PM
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They're great, in addition to physical appearance. Not instead of. So a) your SMV doesn't have a direct correlation with age because even as you age, you can increase charisma, humor, social skills, status, etc. b) also age doesn't have a strong correlation with physical appearance as well; some people age well while others are born ugly. So Once again back to your original statement: Not really, men age and get less attractive but still want young, attractive women. This is again false because,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 10:51 AM
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are you really suggesting that anything beyond physical appearance (again: i.e charisma, humor, frame, status, etc.) isn't sexually attractive? Funny enough I think BP would agree that Sexual attraction is more the physical appearance then RP. Or are you just trying to nitpick at definitions at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 10:26 AM
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No, I don't believe that anyone is obligated to stay together after sex. What I'm asking is if people believe it's okay to deceive in order to get sex. For example, woman makes it clear she doesn't want casual sex. Man says he's looking for a relationship or whatever she's looking for (but he really isn't), just to get her to sleep with him. After sex happens, man drops woman because that's all he wanted in the first place. And how do you prove such deception has already taken place? To do so yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 09:19 AM
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"Attractive" can mean anything including physical appearance, charisma, humor, "frame", and beyond. That's where the fault of your logic lies
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 09:07 AM
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Again: If the male makes more, does it not mean he can afford a better quality of life? Then why does the mother get custody of the child most of the time if the court's decision is solo for the benefit of the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 02:07 AM
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Male, and I know for a fact that at least in one point, I'm the other guy. Someone comes. You don't pursue the person, but the person is interested and single. And on ALL FACTORS YOU CAN POSSIBLY ACCOUNT FOR, this person is more of a match for you than your current partner. You're sure that AT LEAST the "bit of a strain" you perceive won't exist anymore, but there's a chance that you'll find a whole new level to "happy couple". You're sure that this person is aware and intelligent enough to put …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 02:00 AM
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Do you think it's okay to tell a woman whatever you think she wants to hear (e.g. that you're open to or looking for a relationship) in order to get her into bed? As long as it's not false. Sure Do you think it's okay to hide your intentions and let her think she might have a future with you when all you want is casual sex? I think Op suffers from some major misconception here; women usually don't ask their date whether they are looking for a relationship. They are more concern to gage the male'…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 01:31 AM
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I'll go agree and disagree on this: men do not go into relationship that's without sex. I believe your main point is that men's SMV goes down as they age due to decrease in looks. Unfortunate your previous statement does nothing to support those arguments. I think the issue is that you see sex and relationship as separate things while again, in reality no men would go into a relationship with female without sexual context involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 10:41 PM
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women wants a lot of things too.. I fail to see the point in your statement Not really, men age and get less attractive but still want young, attractive women. To clarify: This is your statement. I'm telling you that age isn't the only factor when it comes to male's SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 10:01 PM
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But somehow parents in one gender had to pay more then the other? Give me justification for this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 07:27 PM
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Except men's smv isn't based on appearance: it's about status
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 07:24 PM
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There's quite a bit of stuff to take away from such a short reply: 1) And that's why PUA does what they do to increase the SMV. It's not something I completely agree with (I'm more for self improvement for the sake of self improvement) 2) SMV is not something you "run out of" because you used to to attract someone; a women in full makeup, high heels and one piece dress getting rejected doesn't mean she can't reuse the same for the next potential mate. Yeah but you're out of luck if the one that …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 11:14 AM
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I don't know if it's in their "bible" or if it's just the go to response of some individuals there, but anyway why is this so popular: Father abandons child? Woman chose wrong Marriage fell apart? Woman chose wrong Father's an alcoholic? Woman chose wrong It's simple: We don't think of men as a collective and is not liable to share the sins of those that happened to share our gender. As individual they probably didn't abandon any children or a raging alcoholic and therefore isn't guilty by assoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 10:47 AM
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So many times on Reddit I read how single moms are to blame for not getting men properly. They are harshly condemned and criticized for accepting a bad/ flakey man into their lives and taught that they should have been more picky. True. My question is: why do men also criticize women who are picky about their life partners if they’re only going to blame the woman if something goes wrong? I don't think they do; and definitely not to my knowledge. My standards are high. I expect a man to have a go…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 10:12 PM
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and if they are terrible to anyone and not just female, are they misogyny, or just your typical online troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 09:56 PM
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I wonder what onlookers would think about PPD if they accidentally ventured into this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 01:09 PM
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!redditsilver Why isn't this upvoted more?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 10:55 AM
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From any SJW's perspective, "victim-blaming" is placing any responsibilities and/or diminishing the feelings of victimhood from said victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 10:09 AM
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I don't like to victim-blame here but gas stations always have 1) an attendant, 2) cameras around to make sure they catch ppl's licence plate when they tried to steal Gas. Can a man simultaneously hold the belief that sexual assault is rare and that women should constantly be on the look out for danger by other men? Being robbed or any general crime is rare (and going down) in America, yet it doesn't mean you should leave your doors open at night or walk around covered in blings. Additon2: Yes, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 09:54 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism The ancient Stoics are often misunderstood because the terms they used pertained to different concepts in the past than they do today. The word "stoic" has come to mean "unemotional" or indifferent to pain because Stoic ethics taught freedom from "passion" by following "reason". The Stoics did not seek to extinguish emotions; rather, they sought to transform them by a resolute "askēsis" that enables a person to develop clear judgment and inner calm.[25] Log…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 09:36 AM
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That’s not an anecdote. Love your nitpicking and dodging all the difficult questions. Ofcourse since you won't answear difficult questions like declining marriage, or cared about why men would want to commit in the first place, or what's the bargaining power of men if both want commitment but only the men wants sex, so why are you surprised the discussion when nowhere? The funny thing is you think I'm all over the place, when it's really you that doesn't see the connection: If marriage is a fail…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 01:51 AM
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This is exclusively a PPD thing. RP preaches about stoicism, and BP translate to anything PR teaches as evil and misogynistic. In this case they tried to portray stoicism as teaching men to not expressing feelings and enforcing male stereotypes that men shouldn't cry. Meanwhile the reason why stoicism won't suggest men should cry is because crying is useless and instead we should channel that effort to solve the issue that makes us cry in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 01:41 AM
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Holy shit definition batman! sto·i·cism ˈstōəˌsizəm/Submit noun 1. the endurance of pain or hardship without a display of feelings and without complaint. 2. an ancient Greek school of philosophy founded at Athens by Zeno of Citium. The school taught that virtue, the highest good, is based on knowledge, and that the wise live in harmony with the divine Reason (also identified with Fate and Providence) that governs nature, and are indifferent to the vicissitudes of fortune and to pleasure and pain…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 01:32 AM
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You are still describing what you "think" and what you "think" doesn't always apply to what is reality. If you want to suggest that RP's method is "rickety" and sway RP to "commit", I suggest you find strong evidence in the real world and not ideas that made up inside your head. On that note: the survival rate of marriage is going down and people aren't getting married (the ultimate commitment) those are hard facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 01:21 AM
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I don’t think the majority of people experience love like I am describing. So, no. I don’t think many women (or men) “love” their partner when it stops being easy. Divorce rates are not nearly as high as RPers claim and vary wildly by demographic and I think RPers hyperfocus on attraction only makes them more vulnerable. But ultimately, I think both sexes are the gatekeepers if commitment not just men. Your very own words? no? Face it, your "theory" is only backed up by your own personal experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 12:43 AM
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I am expressing that RP’s approach seems rickety. by using your own anecdote. That doesn't seem like strong evidence, also other BP already tried hundreds of time so I can't even claim it's fresh material.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 12:38 AM
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Summary: Just because you think love works a certain way; don't assume everyone loves a certain way. Also don't tell us how we should love, LoL. Need to be any more clear then that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 12:26 AM
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If you would have ever actually read an article about toxic masculinity you would have seen some examples. That's basically "educate yourselves" in more words, however, since I'm the one asking the question the burden of proof is on you. Perhaps you'll like to share those article on Toxic masculinity? It's quite easy actually. Those that we don't label toxic are those that we don't believe to be toxic. Similarly if I talk about not liking rotten apples it doesn't imply that I hate apples in gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 12:24 AM
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I am talking about how women treat men. Me too. I'm not sure how that got lost in translation RPers claim men want desire from women but I think would prefer duty and integrity. It gives them as close to unconditional love as exists in this world. You keep asking why someone would offer duty and commitment and I don’t think there’s a universal reason so can’t help you there. Thanks for sharing your personal experience and your anecdote. I'm glad that things worked the way it did for you, but und…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 12:14 AM
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https://www.glassdoor.ca/Salaries/us-social-worker-salary-SRCH_IL.0,2_IN1_KO3,16.htm Average 50k isn't the best thing in the world, but it's far from "peanuts". I also wonder where you get the idea that social workers makes peanuts, their unions maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 01:29 PM
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I'll imagine there's lots of cars in this universe and they won't run out of cars any time soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 10:33 AM
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We are walking in circles here: what do you think will cause men to give his duty and integrity to women? You suggest that men will do it because of "love" is literally putting the cart before the horse. As you said yourself above... we enjoy the outcome of proving commitment to women, not actually enjoy providing it... again... "men is the gatekeeper of commitment", and If you agree then why are we gatekeeping the thing we actually enjoy doing? Also give credit when credit is due here: the Alph…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 09:51 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't your assumption about love based on "duty and integrity" which is basically "commitment?" and isn't men wanting sex because he wants women to desire him and the ultimate form to express that is to copulate with him? Not sure if you are unable or unwilling to come to that conclusion. Unless your assumption is that men wants "integrity and duty' from women too and it trumps being desired upon, in which case you are dead wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:39 AM
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Women decapitate their husband's dicks are only rare incidents http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/cannibal-killers-the-first-bite-was-very-strange/news-story/c48fd2632c8e5568f812b43553429725 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Lorena_Bobbitt Yet you don't hear husbands forming group and raising mass hysteria about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:33 AM
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Sure, then why do so many BP deny or play logic twist on the statement "women are the gatekeeper of sex; men are the gatekeeper of commitment"? Perhaps instead of claiming strawmen, you should check what your side really is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:24 AM
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I'm saying BP/Women didn't or don't like reaching that conclusion on their own. It's half of BP's complain bout TPR/PUA: guys are misogynist because they pump and dump and don't commit. So maybe you should tell your BP friends that just because guys slept with women, they don't owe them "duty and integrity".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 01:47 AM
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1) What gender norms do you see in the current year that dictate that women should decide to be stay at home mothers? If anything all the girl power talk is convincing women to do the opposite of this I was simply staying on topic by using his example. You don't like how my 3) answered your question about how there's nothing wrong with gender norms because they are basic biology? Or you just don't like answering it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 01:43 AM
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Agree, in this case you are preaching to the wrong crowd here. Tell the BP and the women that men don't really love them just because they had sex with them, and therefore they shouldn't expect "duty and integrity" out of them... lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 12:39 AM
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Again for every time some BP tried to separate what they defined as "Toxic masculinity" to make it seem like they are not attacking "masculinity" itself: Name a positive trait that's exclusively masculine. I'll at least have an ounce of respect for BPers for at least having a consistent argument if they come out and say that they are attacking "masculinity" instead of playing silly word games and making up new proxy terms to hide their intent. *edit: "having control over your feelings is toxic m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 12:35 AM
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So many problems here: 1) What gender norms do you see in the current year that dictate that women should decide to be stay at home mothers? If anything all the girl power talk is convincing women to do the opposite of this 2) Continuing with the previous point, are you justifying propaganda to advocate for women in today's society (aka women's increase in scholarship and college enrollment, and push for more women CEO) and basically dictate a different set of gender norm for women... you know i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 12:28 AM
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I think you are getting ahead of yourself here. For example, how does two ppl decided to commit to each other via "duty and integrity" just by hooking up and bump uglies a few times? In fact, the very thought of exchanging these commitment due to hormonal stimulation is where the illusion and falsehood lies
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 04:36 PM
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If love is a choice and you have control over it, doesn't it mean that it's conditional based on your choices and whether you want it or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:23 PM
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I'll try to CUV by one-upping it: ugly PEOPLE have to work harder at dating. From the male perspective it's either they tried so hard at being nice they are labeled as niceguys(tm), or they have to work hard to earn money and status, or to learn the game (dating coach), or by being more attractive by losing weight, gain muscles, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 12:58 AM
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"Why do you think your partner leaves you when you show an undesirable trait?" Seriously I'm not sure who's side is worse: the side asking a obvious question, or the side that's actually trying to argue the obvious answer and try to frame it to suite their view of the world. Ofcourse it's more then just "one strike and you are out" and there's multiple issues that gotta happen before one person leaves their significant other, but it's just sad to see anyone trying to discuss something so obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 12:50 AM
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Lol... and mutter something about "not all men."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 10:51 AM
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It depends if you want to come here for an honest debate or to join a circlejerk
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 09:06 AM
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People are shallow: News at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 12:04 AM
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Isn't the feminist movement based on the reactionary of women suffering under the patriarchy? Isn't Nazism a reactionary movement based on unfair war reparation as a result of losing World War 1? Isn't socialism a reactionary movement based on the exploitation of labor as a result of the industrial revolution? It's basically comes down to the same conclusion: people don't look for solutions for a problem that doesn't exist. The bigger question is: why is this generation of men "broken emotionall…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 12:01 AM
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When women complain, they are "brave" for coming out as victims and "raising awareness" of certain gender issues. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 01:37 AM
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Agree on the first part; disagree on the second We don't care whether they have the freedom to do whatever they want; we care when feminist blame man/patriarchy when they made bad choices with their lives. i.e: feminism allowed women to open their lives to career paths and higher position in the corporate world. However that doesn't come without the sacrifice of your personal and dating lives. Also, unless the women want to marry down, their selection of men will get smaller because the pool of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 01:29 AM
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The danger here is that if that's the case, then that'll mean that men cannot be raped by women because they'll always consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 10:39 AM
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Exactly the response I'm looking for. Dismissing the study and all other points in my previous post without a single counter-point. Q.E.D.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 11:25 PM
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Except The BP has no contest to RP when actual scientific facts and statics are bought up: ie. 1)The OkCucip study where women's rating on the opposite gender on average lower when comparing to how men rate women, 2) The rate of marriage is on the decline & divorce rate getting higher, 3) the disproving of the 1 in 4 (or 5) women being a victim of rape, 4) disproving the gender wage gap, 5) biases of women getting lighter jail sentence, etc/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 11:18 PM
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If you think Leadership is objectively masculine, then please take off your blue flare. You are a misogynist redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 12:20 AM
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Except Leadership isn't exclusively nor objectively male. Talk about being a sexist pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 11:42 PM
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To BP and 3rd wave feminist, it's a sign that society and men are going more misogynist.. REEEEEEEEEEE
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 09:50 PM
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CMV: Reducing people to a list of trains and calculating their "SMV" dehumanized people... 1) We are always evaluated based on traits. Friendship is valued based on loyalty, comparability, shared-ideals. Your work is based on your performance, due-diligence, how you fit in the work environment, etc. and suck the soul out of life. How do you define "soul", and what proof do you have that it exist? What about human individuality/uniqueness? Those are call "traits". What about respect for a unique …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 07:54 AM
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Agree. Except the men (in general) isn't complaining about the SMV in general. It's BP that's complaining when RP describe the very nature of SMV The concept of Sex is Transaction & 80/20 rule - Who's view is that, and who's more likely to disagree with said views, BP or RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:40 PM
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It's pretty obvious that if he's not putting in the same effort and care into the relationship, he's not really interested as much as you think he's interested. In TRP it's call "don't listen to their words; pay attention to their actions" (just the gender is reversed) TL;DR He's just not that into you. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 06:02 PM
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The Heart of MGTOW is really men having their own individual ideas on how to live their lives and reject the standards society (and especially the opposite gender) has set upon them. So at the end of the day, if you truly chooses the life that you wanted, then you are "going your own way." That involves how men weight and values "female companionship", and for some men, they realized it's not worth the trouble. Meanwhile, Why aren't more women feminist? https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/only-1-in-…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 05:55 PM
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No women lied to me or brainwashed me. My mother thought the sun shone out of my butt but that wasn't a lie. It WAS true - to her. If your parents taught you the sky was green and it's really true to them then it's true that it they weren't lying, but the sky still isn't green. Yeah she told me girls will like me for whom I am. And she was right. The kid who thought he was a superhero sports legend (in his own mind) grew up into a guy who had pretty good confidence. What is your confidence found…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 10:52 AM
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At some point, women became convinced that our self worth is tied up in the ability to “keep a man”; a sentiment that men don’t particularly share as they generally aren’t judged on the quality of their relationships, just the quantity. Looking at how miserable a lot of women are in their marriages, I don’t get why so many are dying to be wives. Study after study shows marriage benefits men vastly more than women. It seems like they should be begging us to marry them. The Red Pill only functions…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:32 PM
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“Body positivity will never make WE MEN find fat chicks attractive!” That's not about female empowerment; it's about male's preference. Are the male gender not allowed to have preference in regard to who they want to be with? “A sub4 chick’s okcupid profile says she wants to be treated like a princess - the GALL! Thinking she deserves to be treated well!” "Princess" goes beyond "treated well". We don't treat anyone like royalty, unless they are royalty, or they are giving you the same level of r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:54 PM
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If you agree that that there's a difference between MGTOW/TRP/Incel, perhaps you'll like to retract your statement below: I don't care what BP does. But there is some sort of truth in that caricature - MGTOW/TRP/Incel is a spectrum. You all use the same terms (Chad, betabux etc). There are tons of reasons people do hang around there - but like with the dieting sub, it's not unreasonable to assume that most users are new users, and that they mostly come there for advice, and that they seek advice…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 10:57 AM
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Link? And just to be clear. I'm saying that that Marilyn Monroe is a a size 2 during her times and she was considered slightly on the heavy side.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 10:45 AM
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You mean as opposed to the RPers who say bloops are all delusional naive idiots? How about the ones who say you’re automatically unattractive if you’re a feminist/blooper? What about the ones predicting my marriage will fail because I’m blue pill. Where are all the screams of “shaming” when men here tout this shit? Thanks. I agree those are all bad and equivalent to how some BP would lump RP as incel. In general, associating the group you want to attacking with negative traits, and then attackin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 10:41 AM
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I don't care what BP does. But there is some sort of truth in that caricature - MGTOW/TRP/Incel is a spectrum. You all use the same terms (Chad, betabux etc). Again - Some B is A =/= All A is B... so just because MGTOW uses the same term as Incel doesn't make them all the same. You agree there's a spectrum there so there is a difference. That's a huge logical fallacy there. If the advise works you probably don't hang around the sub much more - just like with the dieting sub. It's reasonable to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 10:39 AM
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dieting sub - the key here is "most" and not "all", also there's varying degree ranging from 300 lb to a 180 lb. person. with different BMI, or even normal people subbing to a dieting sub as an interest, or even students studying to be dietitians. The dishonesty here is most BP tried to sweep everyone who even goes to RP as a caricature of angry incels, which isn't true. Another point - If the advise works and you lost tons of weight and kept it off, does it still mean you are an overweight dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 02:24 AM
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http://time.com/4477888/clothing-vanity-sizing/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 02:13 AM
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And therefore they are high value because they actually commit and don't keep going between relationships and as a result have a high-N count. QED?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 01:37 PM
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How many people do you think will do it? Part of accepting the RedPill is about killing your ego. You'll never get to keep the best girl, so you'll always have to work hard, maintain your frame and your game, and if she leaves you "It's just your turn".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 01:35 PM
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You made a really good point! If you flip the other side of the token, you'll hear stuff like "behind the success of every man there is a woman", "Incel are low value because they can't get laid", etc, but apparently it's not okay if the gender is reversed. The truth is that the sexual market is all about supply and demand, and like any other market, demand drives value. Unfortunately, men don't want women with high N count and no social engineering and shaming language can change biological imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 01:33 PM
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The problem with PPD is that the redpill position is seen as "rude, in your face, unapologetic, nihilistic, and against all political correctness and tact." Furthermore there is no stronger or simpler way to express RP because at the end of the day, reality is also rude, unforgiving, and matter-of-fact. This is also the fact that why most RP are right leaning, while BP are left leaning, because the left often has massive delusion where human utopia could exist and their left leaning ideology are…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 01:46 AM
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Ideology isn't bad; Ideologues are. An ideology is a system for a string of beliefs and it's important for a individual to have their own system of thinking and behavior, and also to identify it's inconsistencies and either modify them or abandon them. Ideologues are people who are living in a fantasy that their ideas are without flaws and requires no introspective look, and will defend their ideas to the death even when it's against reality itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 07:09 AM
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/r/totallynotrobots
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 03:23 PM
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Why do you assume that people who hate RP are perfectly rational? I'm glad we come to a consensus then. There maybe justified criticism of RP, but for the most part, them preaching women's advantage and strategy in today's dating scene, and how they "game" the dating game" are considered misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:03 PM
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people don't hate the red pill for dating advice. They hate it for misogyny, mens rights, mgtows, incels, anger, bitterness, slut shaming, endorsing trump, moralizing, right wing politics, anti feminism... is that not what you said? can you now explain to me how RP is related to Incel? As I said before. Incels are just told to apply harder on RP, RP doesn't sympathize incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:58 PM
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No. You tell me how RP is incel. That's literally your original statement, no more deflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:51 PM
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Again. I think your attempt failed at trying to equate TRP with misogyny and everything you hate about it makes your argument that much weaker, because at the bases of it all, you are just committing emotional bias. Most people of the left committed the same error on their argument by leaving the connection between what they hate about a certain subject vague... at least you shouldn't be a lazy debater and establish a connection between TRP and what you see as "misogyny, mens rights, mgtows, inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:41 PM
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I think you grossly misunderstand RP. They don't care that people hate them. It's like you are trying to moral police TRP, but most of them understand that it's completely BS, especially considering the behaviors of modern day feminist and how men are treated in today's society. Would you be sway by moral arguments by someone who doesn't even live up to their own standards and being guilty of the things they are trying to preach against?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:11 PM
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the problem with your thinking is that if you critique RP the same way you critique the current feminist movement and the stuff in TBP, you'll arrived to the same conclusion at the other end of the spectrum. However you clearly only condemn one side but not the other and therefore your bias is showing. So can you please at least be morally consistent?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:03 PM
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No. I can't understand how you contradicted yourself by saying that redpill is incel... if redpill is incel they won't even bother to date. I can't understand what's wrong with men standing up for their rights, just like how any gender should stand up for their rights. What's wrong with men going their own way, if they just wanna leave the sexual market? You are labeling these things, or anything that somehow disadvantage the female as misogyny or anti feminism, but meanwhile you don't realized …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:44 PM
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Red's pill dating advice is incel now? but isn't incel "involuntary celebrate", how could a bunch of male teaching others about dating advice be inclined to be "involuntary celebrate"? I think at this point you are using the typical leftist tactic of labeling the opposition with things you hate, and then attacking by proxy. on the same token, Redpills loves sluts. They are easy game. Dating, spinning plates, one night stands, flirting, being charming, game, lifting, inner game, self improvement,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 04:46 PM
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Q4BP: What % of TBP voted for Hilary? and what can we really conclude with this? and let's not kid ourselves that democrats have the higher moral ground here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 04:36 PM
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Your sentiment is a mixture of misunderstand male as a gender, lacking nuance, and basically trying to twist TRP's message into a negative light. Allow me to elobrate Do you want me to screen cap every instance of someone telling someone else to hide feelings Society in general teaches people to hide their feelings... in some social circle it's call "tact", or even conventional wisdom. For example you might hate your boss, but it's not healthy for you to say it in his/her face if you still need …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:26 AM
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Good. We should attack shitty behaviors that make men feel less than human. For starters, the entirety of TRP. What makes you think that the case? Citation needed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:07 AM
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"What does it mean to act like a man? Well it means to act like a man, of course!" Allow me to elaborate: Say you have a four legged animal that plays fetch with you, attacks strangers entering the house, and starts licking you to show affection. Would you call that a cat or a dog? and what happens when a cat actually does these things, would you call the cat a dog? So contrary to the left's view, gender isn't a social construct. Male has more testosterone in their bodies, has different developm…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 12:28 AM
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The right is hypocritical as fuck considering who the president is right now. In a two party system where you put forth a weak candidate in Hillary Clinton by rigging the primaries, you are hardly giving people a choice. Also Trump-hate is just the media trying to feed the rage and click-bait... for example: https://www.snopes.com/did-trump-impatiently-dump-fish-food-in-japanese-koi-pond/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 12:07 PM
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The left/BP/idealogue behave as if they do have a solution thou, and when it didn't work out they blame it on anyone but themselves. Tell me how many times you've heard Russia/China/Venezuela failed because it's not a true socialist/communist country?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 07:31 AM
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Actually #notyourshield
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 07:23 AM
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if anything, it shows the hypocritical position of the left. Weinstein was the producer of The Hunting Ground,” about sexual assault on college campuses, and fundraised almost $650,000 for Barack Obama. It shows you that these "blue-pill" advocates doesn't really practice what they preach and they don't really stand on any moral high ground if they are literally doing the same thing they shame RP are doing if they thought they could get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 07:18 AM
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They kinda did that with how they changed the format and /r/popular not showing any right_leaning subreddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/5u9pl5/introducing_rpopular/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 07:07 AM
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But isn't having your belief actually backed by a scientific study a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:53 AM
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1) What does it mean to "act like a man?" Who made up these rules? That's entirely arbitrary. What does it mean to "act like a man?" If you believe there's only two genders, then the answer is simple because it's binary. It's male displaying male typical male traits and behavior, just like acting like a women is "women displaying typical women behavior". Unfortunately we currently live in a society where only one gender is discouraged and shamed from having their own typical traits and behavior,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:36 AM
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"For generations the institution of marriage was perceived as a "bad deal" for men in society. It was "a trap", "a trick" where women lassoed guys and forced them to stay for the rest of their lives." Disagree. Traditionally it's a social convention that people should get married and start a family. It's only recently with groups like MGTOW and MRA that start preaching that marriage is a bad deal for men. I dislike the intellectual dishonesty and the historical revisionist attitude that's very t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:20 AM
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OP, If you think HR is there to "teach good values" then I got some bad news for you. HR doesn't protect the company employees; it only serves to protects the company's interest. Trying to adjust your moral compass by a company's HR sensitivity training is like learning the communist manifesto in Soviet Russia; it's a good idea if you want to live, but it's no way "morally good".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:01 AM
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I think you still failed to realized what you've just said here, which summarized the exact problem of BP's position regarding masculinity: 1) TRP would and should definitely demonize behavior that aren't typically masculine... because one would expect a male to act in a way that's more masculine then not? 2) BP DOES criticize masculine behaviors, and they do this by equating masculine behaviors with misogynistic behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:42 AM
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That's fine, but what's the obvious solution to the points you've bought up other then blame the "patriarchy"? At some point, women have to realized that there's no perfect solution where their gender gets both the benefit, but be relief of the burden of "being a strong, independent women". If you want equality, you'll have to earn you keep just like the male gender does.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:32 AM
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Because you snipe the quote and put it out of context?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:26 AM
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There's 7.5 billion people in this world, but only 11,312,500 subs in /r/TwoXChromosomes. What does that mean? FYI Red Pill Philosophy on youtube alone got 185k Subs. Perhaps Op should get off reddit for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 12:06 AM
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https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/adult An adult is a mature, fully developed person. An adult has reached the age when they are legally responsible for their actions. So no. Not everyone over the age 18-21 fit that description, especially around the toxic left-leaning environment today.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 06:03 AM
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Thank you for highlighting the pointlessness of arguing with the likes of SJW and general alt-left/Antifa, people on /r/bluepill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 05:59 AM
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Q4Women: Can you communicate nonverbal cues to men clearly? After all, isn't communication a two way street?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 05:51 AM
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'1."We all have biases and use motivated reasoning to dismiss ideas that run counter to our internal values." It's call emotional bias and everyone has them. Agree '2. "I strongly support trying to understand how and why people think the way they do." It's none of my business to understand how and why people think the way they do, so Disagree. '3. "Being emotionally unengaged helps us better reason about the facts." It's call stoicism. Agree. '4. "We should treat people as individuals, not as ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 12:46 AM
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No I don't. How easy is it to grow your hair and change your wardrobe vs growing 10 inches taller, making 6 figure salaries, or even getting in shape?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 10:41 AM
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I'll be utterly confused by the double-standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 10:05 AM
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ignoring you is hostility now? According to people from the left, Yes http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/oxford-university-racism-students-warn-not-look-someone-in-eye-equality-diversity-free-speech-on-a7698866.html
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 10:02 AM
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Actually quite contrary. I'll teach them to love wisely, and to develop themselves first at an early age so they can command higher market in the SMV, if they choose. I'll also teach them the rules of the game so they can be the best, like all parents want their children to achieve. Would you teach your kids about how terrible love and women and relationships are too? I'm sure that'll help them turn out quite happy funny.. what If I had a daughter? lol I think you should be rid of your gender bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 12:58 AM
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What society would be had, without relationships to be found? sorry but romantic relationship is overrated, also with the advent of technology surrogacy will be readily available and become more common. Self preservation, driven by fear, of being raped and left to die by feelings, is what clearly compels. You should really direct that quote that to the feminist who's find themselves single at 30+ instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 12:49 AM
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If you can't love the other, you'll tend to love yourself, or suffer without intimacy of any sort, until you can't handle your dry spell. It's the very act of loving yourself that one would chose self-preservation rather then the illusion of false hope and self-delusion. as you tremble in your boots, lost and confused on who is who poetic but otherwise meaningless strawman. Why are you such a misanthrope? mis·an·thrope ˈmis(ə)nˌTHrōp,ˈmiz(ə)nˌTHrōp/Submit noun a person who dislikes humankind and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 12:36 AM
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Wow, chosing a single life has nothing to do with being gay, why are you such a homophobe?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 12:27 AM
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Nothing anymore. The Cost outweighs the benefits and the Risk is too much given the return.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 09:32 PM
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http://no-maam.blogspot.ca/2012/06/woman-most-responsible-teenager-in.html This is the sidebar material in which both me and OP made reference to... read it for yourself and see which interpretation holds true, specially the part about OP saying the article in question is saying that women is mentally inferior. You do not need to reply to this post and I won't respond to any further response to this comment. The important thing about RP is that the narrative isn't forced fed, nor are you forced …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:50 AM
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I don't think I've destroyed any women, but I did destroy your whole argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:37 AM
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Lol. Whatever makes you sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:32 AM
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Theories and ideas can be amoral, actions. the Opposite is true. Also I'm currently twirling my pen around right now, what morality is associated with that action. Casual sex is not amoral if you think it ruins people's lives. Car accidents ruin people's lives, moral or amoral? Failing an exam ruin people's lives, moral or amoral? Reddit ruin people's lives, moral or amoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:27 AM
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and what's TRP's way of achieving sex? Sexual strategy and sexual strategy is amoral. You really like to negate certain words to suits your own agenda don't you? Also how's action amoral? The very act of casual sex itself is amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:23 AM
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No it's not immoral... it's "amoral" according to TRP. It's like wolves hunting down Rabbits... there's no morals involved except for predator and prey and each does it's thing naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:20 AM
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synonyms: a word having the same or nearly the same meaning as another in the language, as happy, joyful, elated It's simple... "shortsighted and foolish" isn't "unintelligent" they only have similar meanings. For example... Nicola Tesla is said to be highly intelligent, but Thomas Edison literally took credit for most of his invention. One is rich and famous in his life time while the other only had a resurgence in popular interest in Tesla since the 1990s. Sufficient example for nuance?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:19 AM
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Didn't change that we have to be responsible for our own well being and execute a sexual strategy in our own best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:13 AM
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And they're inherently doomed to be unhappy according to TRP. Beta marriages are typically unhappy. TRPillers knowingly participate in destroying these women's lives. And then perhaps it's in the best interest for women to have a low N-count and to snatch up an RP, beta him by making him commit? It's just hilarious that we are going back to full circle here and turns back into traditionalism as if it was conventional wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:11 AM
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Your logic is like saying that giving a gun to someone and telling them to commit suicide is not evil. That's what TRPillers do. RP didn't tell them to commit suicide thou. RP didn't tell these women to not get a beta male before she hits the wall and in fact most women do according to /r/theredpill anyways. Edit: also again I fail to see the comparison. In which part of your logic did you arrive to RP having casual with women equates to telling them to commit suicide. In fact one may even argue…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:03 AM
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our logic is like saying "it was her fault she got murdered because she went out at night, the murderer is not responsible. He was just trying to have some fun!" False analogy. One is two willing participants engaging in carnal pleasure, the other is murder which is a criminal offense. You believe X is ruining someone's life. You do X anyway, therefore you're responsible for knowingly ruining people's lives. You can't escape it. You believe that you are arguing in bad faith, you do it anyways. l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:59 AM
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No? TBPillers don't believe that promiscuity ruins women forever, TRPillers do. They even use biological determinism to prove it. I think you are mixing up TBPiller with "BP".. one is a bunch of left-leaning keyboard warriors on reddit who, among other things, believe that sexual behavior doesn't have consequences..... meanwhile the "BP" are defined (by TBPiller themselves) as anything not RP. (which is why I've stated that the definitions are important) With that in mind: https://ifstudies.org/…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:55 AM
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TRPillers say that. actually more like society's perception of women with high N-count and not exclusively RP. Again this is why i said RP is descriptive of sexual dynamics in today's society. TRPillers say that women have hypoagency. Also, BP women are unaware of the consequences of their actions. To the point where they can't even make decisions regarding their sexual lives? Reductio ad absurdum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:39 AM
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I'm responding to your comment, not OP. You called it intellectually dishonest to interpret "foolish" as "unintelligent. Except I'm responding to OP's comment, so I must adher to what OP said and the meaning of her words... not your. If you got issues with this bring it up with her. Except in your definition.. those are just synonyms. Instead let's reference to thse first definition.. which is lacking good sense or judgement...(unwise) which, again, doesn't automatically equate to the lack of me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:33 AM
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Yes, because when you had sex with someone, they literally became unwanted goods. /s. The irony is so rich here. Also assuming it's consensual, what happened to women's agency again?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:26 AM
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So yeah... "when I fuck her, I intent for her to grow old and become single because no one would want her when she hit 30s?" you literally thought that was a comparable scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:24 AM
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Yes, but it still doesn't mean they aren't evil. I think we need to define what "evil" is. Are RP selfish? Yes. Evil requires malicious intent, and again, their intent is for carnal pleasure and it doesn't derive from waiting for women to hit the wall and watch them turn into cat-ladies... also it's literally impossible for anyone to even guarantee this cause in effect in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:22 AM
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You really should read what OP said. She's working under the presumption that women are intellectually inferior... again "foolish" isn't intelligence, if anything that's more of a wisdom stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:18 AM
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except they don't own responsibility/due diligence to those they fuck. Having the knowledge doesn't mean they are required to use that knowledge to benefit/prevent harm to all parties involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:17 AM
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Again. You need to prove intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:13 AM
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Women divorcing their husband are subjecting their former spouse to unfair ruling in the divorce court, losing their house, friends, and increasing the risk of suicide... does this means that female divorcee are evil people? I won't say all female divorcees are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:08 AM
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because intelligent people can be shortsighted and foolish too? This is another example of Nuance, and OP is clearly making the argument that RP views women as intellectually inferior, while the article in question only describe women's behavior, but not intellectual capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:06 AM
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Thank god you aren't a judge... because conviction requires mens reas, which includes the test of intent... It's one thing to say that RP seeks casual sex, it's another thing to say that actively seek to have casual sex with women to ruin their lives... instead of the obvious carnal pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:03 AM
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Citation massively needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:56 PM
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Because you've already made the assumption that women are helpless damsels that can't be helped but to get used by RP. That's a very loaded question and I won't answer it with all it's inherited bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:54 PM
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see response here https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6ih9ll/in_your_personal_opinion_are_rp_puas_horrible/dj6dtol/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:50 PM
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They view women as inherently irresponsible compared to men. Therefore a man's agency is always more important. these women don't know their lives are being destroyed because they're BP. Therefore TRP PUAs that destroy women's lives are evil people. If you knowingly destroy someone's life, aren't you an evil person? and now you just made a lot of real feminist cry because you took away women's agency because, just because they are less responsible compare to men, they can't make decisions to avo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:50 PM
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That's assuming that they do view women as biologically inferior... so.. begging the question? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:45 PM
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Why do you bring misogyny into this? I didn't say TRPillers are misogynists. I said they are evil. Define evil? I'll say that sexism is pretty evil. Also I think what you are doing is trying to bait and switch the terms around... and you know that evil has negative implications. It doesn't matter. TRPillers believe women are mentally inferior. Your articles don't matter, I am using links from TRP sub. If you believe women are illogical, more immature and more irresponsible than men then yes you …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:42 PM
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The point is, saying that men is better then women at certain things doesn't make it misogynist anymore then saying a women is better then men at certain things misandrist... also as I've stated before, rational thinking and responsibility isn't the whole criteria of intelligence. I'll respond with this recent edit on my previous post, and yes. the funny thing about the RP source that you've posted is that it doesn't actually actually prove your point. Again, RP isn't saying that women are intel…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:33 PM
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Actually there's a deja vu moment in here.. but didn't we had this discussion at some point before? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6dbeln/q4rp_redpillers_of_ppd_can_you_point_me_to_any/di1bg4f/ specifically my comment here which cites the scientific study that men actually does think more rationally? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6dbeln/q4rp_redpillers_of_ppd_can_you_point_me_to_any/di1bg4f/ http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/study-finds-significant-d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:28 PM
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I think we'll need a rehash on what TBP and TRP preaches and see if we are in agreement for the definition of BP and RP. BP: absence of RP, mainstream dating advice, and let things happen "naturally", everyone's unique and there's no sexual preference trait. RP: Systemic laws of attraction, general behavior and preference for sexual attraction, and believe in having these "traits" will generate success in the SMP. The problem here is that these "traits" whether is social skills, knowledge of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:21 PM
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except these posters are pretty active on reddit during the day too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:14 PM
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I think you missed the point. If BP is clearly effective, they it should work for everyone that tries to apply it, including everyone at /r/incel and /r/foreveralone, yet they all ended up being featured on /r/niceguys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:13 PM
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It's literally saying that women are not abstract thinkers and isn't strong in logical deduction... again how did you derived GLO saying women are intellectually inferior? In fact in the flip side of things, you could say that GLO said women have higher emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:11 PM
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Selective sampling. If BP work /r/incel won't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:37 PM
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It's saying they're mentally inferior and naturally less responsible and mature. less responsible and mature doesn't mean mentally inferior, I see where your logic failed. I can show you RP Vanguards saying women are intellectually inferior. Sure go ahead and post the link, then we can discourse and discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:22 PM
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Not sure what you mean by that, but what I means was that anyone still practicing their game would be busying at bars and clubs picking up chicks instead of posting on reddit all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:21 PM
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for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling things to the most important. that's not saying they are intellectually inferior, just their behavior and the mentality/maturity. What you are implying is the author of the post (and by extension RP) say that women are dumber and that's intellectually dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:20 PM
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or yourself who keeps making post after post but still doesn't understand what's PUA and RP entails and instead want to paint them all as misogynist and alt-right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:15 PM
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So naturally irresponsible compared to men. Have you actually read that post? They believe women are mentally inferior. It's right there. Right where? I literally linked the article. Show me where they said that women are "intellectually inferior and have the brain of a child" in that article.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:13 PM
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It's possible to want impossible things only if you are unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:07 PM
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I puked a little in my mouth. It's hard to believe what these two said in regards to their sexual experience; if they are real PUA they won't spend so much time on reddit arguing in PPD, at least if they are still running their pick up game.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:06 PM
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