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I dont think 'jokes are important' = 'we shouldnt make jokes' Jokes are important = the things you joke about broadcast a lot about who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 07:13 PM
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Many people end up attracting a personality disordered person into their life because the very thing that makes them crazy often gives them a weird kind of charisma. On first impressions of someone with a cluster B personality disorder (the flashy, dramatic kind) you probably meet them and go "Wow! I've never met anyone like you before! So full of charm/energy/passion/doesn't care what anyone thinks". Theyre ferraris in a world of porsches. I believe this holds true across gender lines. Female c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:34 PM
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I'm on the fence about if this is true or not because this line good thing he was wearing a body camera If true- really tips off that this "friend" is not a person who has normal social interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 04:33 PM
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I read Mode One and had a phase of trying this too. The vibe I get from Alan Roger Currie is that his "thing" is dirty talk, as in he comes across as someone who genuinely gets a kick out of whispering nasty shit in a womans ear for its own sake. So as much as he touts it as a filtering strategy its actually partly a very aggressive style of courtship/flirting in its own way, one that some women are into more than others, one that requires work to be good at, and one that works better at saturda…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 01:05 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfpVY_ZHGDg
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 08:43 AM
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I've seen a video of roosh where he was talking about how he really hates the idea of anal, it makes you gay and he'll never put his 'beener' (his word) in a girls ass. He's a 13 year old in a 40 year old body.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 04:23 PM
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Great fucking band https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgcSe12xdds
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 02:01 PM
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while women are generally upfront Note that this is a self reported study. What I suspect is happnening is that the women all reporting 'oh yeah when I saw the last guy I was attracted to I dropped so many hints and gave so many signals' Wheras the guys are reporting 'no when I saw the last woman I was attracted to I did not make an unambigious move on her' because they're interpreting what 'showing your intentions' means differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:00 PM
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You miss the point. It's not the n-count that 'creates' the status, the n-count is a bi-product OF the status. Maybe thats what you're trying to say, but what you said was. Most high n-count men are high value Which is very different. If you hypothesised a random sample of high n count men, the only thing I would guess with any certainty about them is that they are all of decent-ish looks (model good looks aren't required) and like casual sex. I might even speculate that a lot of them would be f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:50 PM
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Most high n-count men are high value by definition Most of the highest n-count guys I've known have been the 'drop out party guy' type. I've known guys who were (IMO) complete fucking losers in many critical aspects of character who had +50 n's. Really n count just says something very specific about you: how much you value chasing girls. Does that in itself make someone high status? Lets say a hypothetical guy goes out for a night on the town. He hits on a few girls, gets rejected by all and goe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 06:33 PM
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A lot of people looking for serious relationships have serious mental issues too. Yeah this is one of many glaring issues with the OP. It presumes casual sex as abnormal and seeking 'serious relationships' as healthy. But for say, someone with attachment issues, BPD or many psychological illnesses their intense need for close intimate relationships are where things get really fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 09:57 AM
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Its worth noting theres a difference between legalisation and decriminalisation. Decriminalisation: buying and selling sex is not prosecuted Legalisation: Prostitution happens within a codified legal framework. Theres an argument I've heard that legalisation is often counterproductive to sex workers rights, since the legal framework that legislators come up with is oftentimes something subtly intended to dissuade people away from prostitution; red tape etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:31 AM
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I realised a while back: I have real problems remembering the details of a sexual encounter. Like I can remember if something notable happened, but what exact positions we did, what her vagina looks like, can't recall. Sometimes I can't remember if we gave each other oral or not. I chalk it up partly to the whole 'god gave man a brain and a penis and only enough blood to work one at a time' thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 10:55 AM
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I think it lost steam a little round about the time YouTube was getting big. Same as UFO sightings did, it’s easy to CLAIM you have a foolproof system for getting women, but people will want evidence now. Now there are YouTube coaches but they don’t make as bold claims as they used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:02 PM
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Its simple. Most people are too nice to tell someone they are anything less than the best sexual partner they've ever had. Everyone has an overinflated sense of their own sexual ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:23 PM
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When someone makes a passive aggressive provocation (and thats what that post was) they're looking for either of two responses: marshmallow mother ("oooooh you poor baby", MM heaps sympathy and understanding upon the child/victim without them having to ask for it directly) critical father ("what is wrong with you? Shape up!" CF gets angry at the child/victim, which is unconsciously satisfying to the "victim" since it validates and justifies their 'everyone is against me' worldview. The more hars…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 09:16 PM
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Define 'interested' As in, interested in rubbing junk with them? Or interested in their thoughts and feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 02:15 AM
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I have a question: In the video Billys planet (earth) gets destroyed by aliens. They visually resemble and cycle across the screen in a similar way to the ones that destroy civilisation in the background while fry is in cryo in the first episode (before its rebuilt). Does this mean that in Futurama the robot sex apocalypse is actually canon earth history and not a hypothetical made up for the PSA video?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 10:53 PM
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That doesn't happen though. Maybe 100 guys might try to make eye contact, but she's not hearing 100 pick up lines a night.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 07:57 AM
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It never surprised me. It was the only logical explanation for most Hollywood actresses. The median Hollywood actress is modestly above average looking. Like, I could find 10-15 girls in a random biology class in any state university who are significantly hotter. Not only prettier faces, but much better bodies. they're actors. As in, they act, playing other people. Their attractiveness is secondary to acting ability. The median Hollywood actress? sleeping your way to the top isn't generally a vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 07:47 AM
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I bet Brad Pitt didn’t have to cultivate anything. Brad Pitt is naturally good looking (plus a small amount of plastic surgery) but...he's an actor. As in, he's literally dedicated his craft to working on his body language, tone of voice, self presentation, image etc. Being sexy and making it look easy is his full time job.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 02:46 PM
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Not 100s but +60 I had pretty much zero sexual experiences with women until after college. If I had any advice: focus on trying to have fun with women rather than trying to 'impress' them. Guys who try to be impressive are lame as hell, and the constant treadmill of trying to win approval will erode your soul. In a club for example, the guys who hate clubs and go there just to pick up girls need balls of steel because they're in an environment they hate, trying to 'win' every interaction and get…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 12:42 PM
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OCD OCD is very distinctive and isn’t the same thing as a general fixation, it’s different from OCPD for example. OCD is when you can’t stop flicking light switches or something. OCPD is when you’re interpersonally rigid, controlling and moralistic. In any case if we’re talking personality disorders Roissy, Roosh, Cernovich all come off as obvious narcissists to me. However it’s just not the fact that they believe they’re top 10% that does it, it’s the obsession with ranking people into percenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 10:21 AM
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You can improve this And how do you improve it? By doing it. The reason I wrote that bit about "soft rejections" is because I used to think that every time you talked to a woman you'd be be branded CREEP on your head. It was only later in my life I realised "oh wait, it's not that bad". I wish I'd learned that in college tbh. Perceiving yourself as incapable of change doesn't serve you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 07:56 AM
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Someone has already said something similar to this but I don't see the logic. If you refuse to even try because you see failure as inevitable, surely your self esteem/optimism/whatever is shit now. You can't really say "I have good self esteem right now, so I refuse to try, because I'm doomed to fail, and that will make me have bad self esteem" It's an implausible account of what self esteem is. Self esteem is the thing that prevents you from doing challenging things? That makes no sense. Self e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 07:48 AM
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First wrong because if an average guy had to ask out 100 women to get "a hottie" and a hot guy has to ask out 1 woman, then looks do matter. ? That wasn't my premise. I didn't say looks don't matter. I'm saying success isn't diminished by prior failure. If you get a thing you are demonstrably better off than if you don't have the thing, even if you failed to get the thing many times before you got it. And second - I don't think the average guy would actually get the hot girl after asking or 100 …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 07:49 PM
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How did you were socialized when you were young? I'm an only child. I took the sales job I mentioned partly because I wanted to improve my (poor) social skills. I had basically zero sexual encounters during my college years. How much success did you have? I've had 68 sexual partners in the years since then. In terms of rejections many rejections, but I don't count rejections, just successes (In a google spreadsheet as lame as that is, but I tell myself I'm just doing it in case I ever catch some…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 06:10 PM
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I work with a guy, skinny dude, not hideous but not great looking either. From an arabic background, doesn't speak english that great. He has absolutely no compunctions about approaching women and hitting on them, and so he finds girlfriends. I've talked to him about this, he says to me "Go! go! you don't ask you don't get!" See to him his mindset is that not approaching an attractive woman is shameful. To him, regardless of the outcome if you see a hot girl and stare at your shoes and don't hit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 05:59 PM
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I'm male. I've approached women online and in real life and been rejected, I've been dumped. I've worked sales jobs where I had to cold approach customers and would get rejected 50 times a day. How much it bothers you is a matter of perception. In my experience when you approach women irl most rejections are 'soft' rejections. That is to say, you talk to her like a normal person and can read social cues, they'll entertain your company for a bit, then say 'I've gotta go" or 'I just wanna talk to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 04:19 PM
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The only thing you're losing if a girl rejects you is a blow to your ego. Its a renewable resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 03:51 PM
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That makes no sense, if I try to get something, fail 100 times and then get it, then I have it. I dont have 0.01 of the thing I wanted (by generalising or averaging the failures) I have it. Oscar winners don't lose an oscar for every flop they made.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 02:49 PM
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Success matters not counting failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 02:18 PM
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I've been recommending this book up and down reddit recently but I read Never Split the Difference a few months back and it pertains to this topic, its about the skill of negotiation as written by an FBI hostage negotiator. One of his primary points is this: emotion precedes rationality in decision making. people are in no condition to reach any kind of agreement or decision until AFTER their emotional concerns have been aired. So in a sense, you're right. However there are strategies to bring t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 08:37 PM
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Its a discussion piece. I'm not presenting it as a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 11:59 AM
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If it weren’t so unusual you wouldn’t have noticed it, and you wouldn’t even bring it up here as some sort of “Gotcha!”. I wasn't intending a gotcha, I think it is unusual. He is an outlier. Outliers are interesting though because considering the exception of a rule potentially has more interesting implications than assuming the rule is ironclad and can't be violated. Look at it this way: Back when I was into PUA/game/etc one of the better pieces of advice for mindset I ever read was "don't rely…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 01:39 PM
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The fact of that matter is that rates of narcissm I read a book about this recently (The Selfishness of Others) and it directly talks about the idea of the supposed "narcissism epidemic" and while that while it makes for a catchy headline its tricky to actually quantify. A lot of the tests and self questionnaires that supposedly test for narcissistic traits could equally be seen as testing self esteem or independence. At what point does something become "narcissistic" as opposed to self-empoweri…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 06:47 PM
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I would take the attitude that as her parent I don't want to know what she does with her sex life so long as shes doing it safely. I mean I'd find it gross on a visceral level, but lecturing her or yelling at her isnt going to 'fix' it. Indeed, for many people the thrill of pissing off their parents is part of the psychological appeal. (Sometimes when it comes to 'acting out' behaviour its more effective to give a disappointing non-reaction to the acting out than to 'reward it' with an extreme r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 10:20 AM
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No, but OP said Interested in the Male opinion as well
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 11:43 PM
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Funnily enough, I saw a guy in a department store the other day stop a girl and my first thought was "PUA". But then my second thought was "what made me immediately think he was a PUA, rather than just a guy asking a girl out?" So I gave him a second glance and realised what the tell was - overdressed for the occasion. It was a sunday afternoon and he was wearing this pretty pricey looking black and red coordinated outfit. It looked off, like these were his 'hitting on women' clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 11:27 PM
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I think after a first date its fine, after date 2/3 not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 02:01 AM
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Its hard to quantify because a lot of rejections are 'soft rejections' like say, a woman doesn't return a guys initial eye contact so he makes no further advances. Then there are potential 'rejections' at each further stage: she returns eye contact but doesent want to talk, talk but no phone number, phone number but never texts back, no date, date but no sex, sex but no follow up, dating but dumps him after a month or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 06:04 PM
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Second argument I have against vulnerability was my first relationship. When I was a kissless virgin at 18, a cute but crazy girl was into me for some reason (probably because I was "mysterious"), and when we were alone, she straight up kissed me. I, a beta, fell in love instantly. And in our LTR I was very vulnerable/honest/emotionally available with her, treated her like a goddess. And it didn't stop her from absolutely blowing up the relationship 2 years later. So an relationship you had with…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 10:01 PM
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Yeah RP tends to use frame almost for it's connotation of "sturdiness" like a metaphorical frame that holds something up. The NLP that PUA originally took from decades back means more in the sense of framing like a camera though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 09:59 PM
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This depends what you mean by breaking frame. In NLP (which is where the term frame originally comes from) frame control refers to a specific worldview (a 'framing' or the world), and that if you maintain that worldview unshakably then those with weaker frame will come to adopt yours instead of this. Trump is good at this, he talks complete bullshit, but he believes his own bullshit hard enough that it forces everyone else to respond to it. If you refer to maintaining frame as 'never looking wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 09:12 PM
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The friendzone and guys who complain about the friendzone are examples of passive aggressive-behavior in action. The general logic of passive aggressive behaviour goes like this: I want [thing] but going for what I want directly exposes me to potential shame and failure. So I wont go for [thing] unless its completely assured of success, or in a roundabout way where I can be blameless and have no responsibility for it. Now the thing about passive aggressive behaviour is that often its more tempti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 01:33 PM
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If you write for mass market consumption then thats pop-(field). The term is used dismissively but its not necessarily an indictment of your credentials.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 04:30 PM
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Its far, far better to make first impression irl that online. As to how you ask her out that doesent matter though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 04:26 PM
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If we're strictly talking about sex for reproduction/passing on your genes sake, then I know plenty of uhh, somewhat-less-than-genetically-perfect-males from school who are now fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 04:24 PM
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Guys who approach lots of women routinely do it because they get a thrill out of it. Lots of things which one person may consider scary another person gets a little rush from. I mean, walking up to a pretty girl and making her smile, bit of an ego boost yeah? Sure maybe that doesent happen every time, maybe sometimes she tells you to fuck off, but you can chalk that up as part of the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 08:27 PM
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I worked in a sales job for a few years approaching customers so I would approach 100 or so people a day. It taught me a lot about approaching strangers in general. These days I find it way easier to approach women, and online dating has lost a lot of its appeal to me. I find OLD just tedious now, approaching women in real life has advantages, primarily that you know whether or not you’re attracted to each other very quickly. If you have a shitty online date that’s half your evening gone as you …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 09:26 AM
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No but im pretty sure it was this https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26068893
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/18 01:26 PM
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I read an article once (which I can’t find again so take it with a pinch of salt) that claimed that researchers could guess where a couple met by their comparative attractiveness. Couples who meet in a bar or online tend to be similar in league whereas those who met at work or some other situation where they had longer to “warm up to each other” are more likely to be mismatched in physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/18 12:01 PM
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You'd like Terre D'hermes (earthy, masculine cederwood) or Blu de Chanel (citrus fresh spicy woods)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 11:56 AM
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Agreed, also I'd theorise that theres a promiscuous percentage of about 20% men AND 20% women who are mostly having sex with each other. In reality, according to the GSS, the top 20% of the most sexually active never-married young men have about 50-60% of the sex. It’s about the same for women, and these shares are basically stable over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 01:40 PM
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I dont believe 'high quality' 'low quality' is an effective metric for people. I do believe that, moreso than anything else, people tend to date people who are similar to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 09:26 AM
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Very off topic: I've noticed most actors tend to have a 'thing' or archetype they gravitate to play thats largely due to their facial features being suited well for it. Di Caprios 'thing' tends to be obsessives, often with the trappings of wealth. (The Aviator, Shutter Island, Inception, Wolf of Wall Street, Great Gatsby, Django Unchained, Catch Me If You Can etc) he's usually playing an extremely driven, perhaps wealthy guy with a slightly unhinged fixation. It works well for him because his fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 02:58 PM
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yeah its a trip
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 04:01 PM
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I always think of HardBody which is the term Patrick Bateman and his shithead yuppie clique use for women in American Psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 11:55 AM
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timid Timid people often come off as creepier than loud people. That kind of nervous energy makes people feel nervous in turn. I have a friend who's autistic but the loud, talkative kind. Sometimes he comes off a bit intense or annoying, but not creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 02:01 PM
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Rolf didn’t make that assertion. lso if you read the book you will see that it is not super ideological. I'm talking about the interpretation of his words you present. Regardless of what exactly is in Dobelli's book (which I'm probably not going to read, frankly) You're using his words to set out a classic post-ideological position, where the 'correct path' to a 'good life' is to renounce ideology and ideologues. (Its ok to reference someone else's thoughts to make a case but your presentation b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 10:59 AM
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Or, its possible that the poster has already heard the term ideology and put more reading into it than you. Žižek would argue that Rolf Dobellis assertion that he is post-ideological and everyone else is the ideologue is deeply ironic, since this is the most powerful and insidious way to spread ideology there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 01:08 AM
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Dunno. Who cares about anything on this dumb forum? I found it interesting because so much time is spent discussing here what it means to be 'sexually succesful' so heres a picture of a guy who claims to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 07:57 PM
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They likely excised the boring answers from the article tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 07:53 PM
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You would be surprised how that is difficult to do. White men in France are convinced arabian women have straight hair. Majority of them have curly hair, you gotta be married to one to know they straighten their hair after any shower, they never get out of their bathroom with their natural curly hair, straight hair being more beautiful is extremely strong in their culture. You ever consider how many women have unibrows? You see a fair few when you're looking at footage shot in third world countr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 10:02 AM
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Facial features don't go away, your skin quality is surely inconsistent, but your nose doesn't grow bigger and smaller from day to day...... I've waked up next to the same woman for 10 years, if I wasn't into her natural face I wouldn't. ...thats my point. Make up isn't some kind of trick because men aren't fooled. You factor how she looks with and without makeup in. Its not like she looked good with makeup and then you married her because of it but oh no you were bamboozled.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:31 AM
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I wouldn’t call anyone chad because I think it’s a dumb term.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:02 AM
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And countouring... You know about it? Look at this example, she goes from average arabian girl to los angelas white hottie. Seriously this isn't the same face at all. It isn't maximising what she has, it's making it into something else. There’s no way you could look at the final image and assume she’s not wearing makeup. And she’s already cute before, its just highlighting and maximising her best features. Already full lips become fuller, dark eyes become darker etc. I’ve worked in beauty. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:57 AM
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By your logic I can basically wear a mask and appear more attractive and the women I'll attract will be of my league. If the women you’re attracting aren’t fucking dumb they’ll know you’re wearing a mask. (Unless we’re taking about some sci-fi transhumanist false skin shit) If they were somehow still attracted to you regardless then you must be doing something right. Maybe you’re funny as hell I dunno. Or maybe it covers up your horrific burns. But regardless if they’re attracted to you - then t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:27 AM
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You ever waxed your bikini line? Threaded your eyebrows? Bleached your moustache hair? You know what an epilator is? Ever bought hair straighteners? It’s amazing. Red pillers claim to understand gender relations but when it comes to a question which anyone off the street could answer like ”which gender spends more effort on appearance” you flunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:54 PM
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Women wear make up because they don't want to attract men of their league, they want better, because if their higher standards. That makes no sense. Your league is just the pool of “who you can attract”. If people find you attractive you’re attractive. It’s not “who you attract when you put zero effort into your appearance, because anything else would be unfairly inflating your league”. There isn’t your “actual league” and your “inflated league” Y’all are obsessed with the idea of “levels” to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:51 PM
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"Average" does not mean the MEDIAN, or middle, which would be a "5." Average is the sum of every person's subjectively assigned numbers divided by the total number of people. That’s why average is a bad metric to gauge “what people think of as normal”. On average, humans have less than two legs for example. Median or mode makes more sense for many uses.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 06:21 AM
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Attractive girls don’t go to the gym? All she has to do is go the spa and/or mall. And what does she buy at the mall? How much does that cost? How much time/money at the spa/salon? What’s the average cost of skin/hair treatments? Who's the target market for the vast majority of the beauty industry?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 06:18 AM
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No one expects guys to wear suits outside of specific situations. For a college age guy even going around in a suit would be seen as weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 06:07 AM
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Looking good for a women implies some genetic luck and some maintenance "Some maintainance" is underplaying the amount of shit women do, as well as how much it costs. You ever seen how much make up goes for? Wheras, as a guy "doing your hair" means going to the barbers once in a while, no salon treatments required or expected. Doing your face means wearing moisturiser. A guy might have something like 3 sets of shoes (nice casual/smart/running shoes). You're not expected to pluck eyebrows or shav…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 07:50 PM
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I came here to post this. I heard of the concept of frame years and years back as a NLP concept, the way redpillers use it seems to be kind of dumbed down from what I encountered it as. Framing happens in every instant of your perception. Its not even just about how others percieve you, but the way you perceive events. That old cliche of "I choose to see problems as opportunities" is a basic example of reframing. As you say, people seem to have confused it with the definition of the word frame m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:04 AM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:45 AM
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Everyone has the right to think what they like about you. Funnily enough, I encountered this phrase from a PUA site, it was presented as the proper attitude for passing shit tests: "You are welcome to think what you like about me". It remains one of the best pieces of advice from that material I've ever heard. That is, if a woman thinks you're a creep, or a loser, or a fuckboy or whatever thats fine. You shrug. Thats her opinion. She's allowed to think that. Desperate guys are obsessed with tryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 10:00 PM
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One of my male friends- pretty introverted, shy sensitive artist type. He gets tonnes of dates off OLD. If every dating site suddenly disappeared tomorrow though he’d be screwed because he never approaches IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:22 AM
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What about people who decide to abstain? Sex positivity doesent mean condemning people for not-having sex. And as for people don’t have access to contraception, well then the same answer as anyone else who can’t access modern medicine. That’s a problem to be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 07:16 PM
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Yes it did. And I’m saying “modern social mores wouldn’t exist if [invention which changed the modern world] didn’t exist” is a meaningless metric to base behaviour on. It’s like saying “Tell me how keen you’d be to travel if modern medicine and transport didn’t exist and there was a high chance you’d die of disease or starvation before reaching your destination like your forefathers did” well, yes. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 06:32 PM
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Get rid of the pill Why? Should we get rid of antibiotics and indoor plumbing while we’re at it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 06:17 PM
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In general shaming alone doesent stop people from doing the thing, it just makes them do the thing in secrecy and shamefully. Islamic theocracies like Iran for example have horrible STD rates. People are still fucking they’re just not doing it safely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 04:13 PM
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I’ve read gossip from people who’ve met and “gamed” (or whatever the jargon is for going out and talking to girls) Strauss in the flesh saying he’s actually awful at picking up women, what he loves to do is be a smug backseat driver about how you’re doing it wrong though. This is the big problem with PUA: it’s mostly blind leading the blind and there’s such an ego boost factor in believing like youve figured out The Secret to attracting women that makes guys come out with all kinds of overthinki…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 07:27 AM
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I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 08:44 PM
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The girls messaging him in the photo have obviously read it. I'm not saying that its a bio that would work if he weren't super hot. I'm saying that its more that likely the girls in the screenshot think he's joking than think he's a literal sex offender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 08:17 PM
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Its so over the top creepy that it reads as if Ray is deliberately pretending to be creepy to fuck with the reader though. It looks more like the bio of a guy with a twisted sense of humor than that of an actual sex offender. Imagine if the bio was accompanied by an ugly man. He would never get swiped. I said that already.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 07:10 PM
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The thing youre discounting there is polarisation. This for example: A good bio could just about myself and made up accomplishments, such as being a doctor, world travler, etc. Is a nice, but bland bio. A bio which polarises responses (say, for example, a dark joke about raping kids) may cause a whole bunch of women to swipe left, but it can also stand out to any woman who are also into dark humor. A bio which is upfront sexual like "Hook ups only, swipe right if good looking" Might turn a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 06:40 PM
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women will disregard a man's glaring flaws, even criminal ones, if he's hot enough Its far more likely that they assumed that the guy who doesn't look like a stereotypical sex offender putting "I rape kids" in his tinder bio was doing so as a dark joke to fuck with people, and does not in fact literally rape kids. In a way it makes him more attractive, some women are into edgy humor and it gives him a bad boy edge that stands out from the all the "I'm into travel and hanging out with my friends"…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 06:33 PM
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Your hair looks shiny, is it a wig? Oh well it looks nice anyway That’s lovely long hair – are they extensions? I think your hair would look better up/down Nice nails – are they acrylic. Oh, well they look good anyway. Awww, how cute, your nose wiggles when you laugh – look there it goes again !!! Is that your natural hair colour well its not bad So you changed it to that? I like your look, beauty is common but you seem like you have character. You have U shaped teeth. Well at least you have a n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:45 PM
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Lots of common sense advice isn’t followed because people have psychological baggage about actually implementing it. To actually, truely want to change yourself is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 04:34 PM
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This reads as desperate as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 04:32 PM
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I’m saying this, lean and muscular: http://www.ayushveda.com/dietfitness/get-a-swimmers-body (And note the website is pointing out that you can get a “swimmers body” by weight training, so I’m not talking necessarily about literal swimmers) Is closer to most women’s ideal physique than this headline guy ; oversized and muscular, which suggests that there is an upper limit where “more muscles” isn’t necessarily more attractive. https://www.mensfitness.com/training/pro-tips/7-things-anybody-can-le…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:29 PM
3

I remember seeing some novelty dating show where the premise is that you get to see your dates naked right off the bat and a few chicks nope out when they see the guy has a donkey dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 09:16 AM
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With women, I have observed differently. Generally, the more a guy increases in specific characteristics, such as height, muscularity, shoulder width, arm size, confidence, charisma etc most women dont go for bodybuilders, generally the conventional male ideal for women is more like swimmers physique. Also I dont see disproportionate chimpanzee arms held up as an ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 08:56 AM
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lots of people define themselves as Tauruses or Gemini’s too. That doesn’t change my opinion on astrology.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 11:10 PM
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It would depend entirely on my starting location.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 06:24 PM
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I wrote a post about this a while back so this a repost: Its partly because someone can be an asshole in some ways but interesting an attractive in others, a lot of famous and well loved celebrities are kind of dicks if you look at their personal life (John Lennon is the first name that springs to mind). Its partly because the elements that MAKE someone a charismatic high flyer can also make them kind of an asshole. Its partly because some industries and lifestyles are more cutthroat than others…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 01:14 PM
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"to get laid you're going to have to lower your standards all the way to landwhales, who you'll have to treat pretty well to get the time of day." You should probably treat someone pretty well if you want to have sex with them. Landwhale or no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 10:56 AM
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Men are respected more for the appearance of having options than for the actual act of sticking it in everything that moves. Most womens ideal man is a guy who can get with women but chooses to keep it in his pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 10:40 AM
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You are just using someone else's body as a fancy masterbation device. What is the appeal? Why is that necessarily the case just because you only have sex one time? You've never "clicked" with someone immediately? A lot of my female friends started as ONS, I like them as people. The fact that we banged is almost a relief as it means we "got that out of the way" to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 07:20 AM
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Its kinda true but most of humanity isn't in a strict dichotomy between "square jawed chad who can get away with anything" and "misshapen incel scorned by society" Most average people are somewhere in between, in which case other factors come in to play. Also, it becomes less true the further you get from initial impressions. A hot guy can become known as a creep once the shine of his hotness has worn off. An ugly person can become less subjectively ugly as you know them longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 02:34 PM
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Modern Dr Who has a heavily female fanbase anyway though. Or at least I base that on that its one of those shows that tumblr seems to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 01:32 PM
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I used to have a friend who was a highly attractive man and one thing I noticed was that while on the whole, women were nicer to him, he wasn't immune to getting harsh rejections when he did get rejected. There was something about him that made women think 'I bet this guy thinks he's sooo hot shit' that meant women got a real kick out of telling him no. Particularly in public, women want their friends to see that they rejected the hot guy because it builds their own cred. Not to say he didn't ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 08:02 AM
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Not really. I think a lot of people here have a skewed idea of what "success" is. For example, Tinder recently released "tinder gold"- a feature that lets you see how many women have already right swiped you, I checked it out and I'd have to say don't bother, its just depressing. I had a handful of matches when I got the upgrade, left swiped them all and haven't had any more in the week since. Its evidence if any more was needed that I am not Chad. BUT at the same time I know that I can get laid…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 09:37 AM
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I used to have an ex girlfriend who was quite nerdy and didn't like to go out much. She was extremely conscious of being "uncool" and was convinced I was out banging "skinny hipster girls". In any case though I think the kind of jibes women throw at each other tend to revolve more around slut shaming each other, which isn't really the same as the chad thing. Womens insecurity manifests more like "that bitch thinks shes soooo hot", with particular ire for girls who act dumber than they are or "ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 04:06 PM
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Men like fucking someone who doesn't enjoy fucking them? Weird. No, but there have been studies* suggesting that men tend to overestimate how sexually attracted women are to them while women underestimate it. *from the university of: I can't be bothered to google this so I may just be pulling it out of my ass
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 10:16 AM
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Commenting here because I'm a guy not a woman. But in my experience this is super true. Very often, women will not even consider you as a potential sexual prospect until after you've made some kind of show of desire towards them. This has happened to me many times. My last girlfriend teased me for moving too fast because on our first date during the daytime I went for the kiss. Later in our relationship though she admitted that if I hadn't done that there probably wouldn't have been date 2. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 06:20 PM
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I agree, whenever I hear a story on the internet I assume the narrator is an unreliable narrator, but I also put it through the filter of "is it plausible that this event has happened, to someone somewhere on the planet?" "Known celebrity scumbag Chris Brown bangs a married chick" is well within the realms of plausibility and has probably happened to someone, even if it wasn't this redditors friend. In any case, your beliefs shouldn't be so fragile that they depend on the last anecdote you heard…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 01:21 PM
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Red pillers do this weird thing where they take what a mentally healthy person thinks of as just a fun activity for two (consensual recreational sex) and act like they're completely pwning their partner by doing so. He had sex with a girl and she cooked him breakfast, later she joked that cooking breakfast in an apron for a man is a totally 1950s image. Little did she know that this guy was a brokebrain moron with a patriarchy fixation who takes stuff like that way too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 09:47 AM
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I've met women who don't enjoy oral. (And before the obvious rebuttal "you must not be good at it then" they typically stop you as soon as your head starts moving down there)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:31 AM
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He mentioned that historically, women would have to vet out the best man to take care of her child. In communal tribal society with children raised by the community this wasn't such a big deal. It only becomes such when you have private property and a specific family lineage that needs to be guarded. Some prehistoric societies appear to have taken a while to even work out that fathers are meaningful factors in procreation. Also prostitution has always been a thing and in some ways it was a much …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 04:07 PM
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I agree with 1 and 2 but the issue with 3 and 4 is they punish the kids further for having shitty parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 12:14 PM
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At least once they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 05:38 PM
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It's the least you could do for your ancestors, many of whom didn't get laid at all. Well I can assume every single one of them did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 06:13 AM
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Unattractive women are often highly suspicious and defensive against attractive men hitting on them. Despite people saying "just lower your standards/fuck a fat girl" I think its often harder to date down than it is to date someone at your level.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:41 PM
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And even if something was associated with cheating, a human being would not laugh at someone's mutilation just because of that. That's not human nature Well obviously it is. Since humans do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 06:52 PM
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Something can only be funny if it has meaning. If cutting off a penis is equivalent to cutting off a pinky toe to women, why are jokes about cutting off penises 'funny' while jokes about cutting off pinky toes not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:45 PM
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No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I am saying that Castration imagery is one of those things that is fascinating to people, and forms the basis of a lot of jokes, myths, idioms etc This is because penises have a symbolic meaning in our culture that say, arms do not. Nonetheless there is a difference between a joke which gets a laugh in a particular environment, and being genuinely incapable of feeling empathy for something. Admit it, ? I'm trying to have a discussion here with the minimum o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:38 PM
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Firstly, the only time I've seen women openly laugh at a penis being cut off is TV audiences, and I'd put it that a TV audience is more psychopathic than an individual in a mob mentality way. Secondly the reason the image of a penis being cut off might be considered humorous is a Freudian thing. The penis is supposed to be a symbol of power, so castration (which is the word you are looking for that refers to removal of genitals, not circumcision) has a powerful connotation of power-loss. It was …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 03:23 PM
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One of the things I find interesting about women's sexuality is that in my experience I've noticed a significant divide between women who genuinely appreciate looking at dicks, and those who do not. I've noticed this in my sexual partners, some women genuinely like receiving dick pics, they like looking at it, they like touching it, they comment on it a lot etc. Other women like sex, and like sex with men, but a dick is just a not particularly aesthetically pleasing tool to that end. A female fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 04:45 PM
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I've had some fantastic experiences via online dating. I've also had a lot, a lot of flakes and boring dates. The main benefit is the low effort required to virtual "approach" a number of women. The downside is that that low effort is a double edged sword. Women will flake on you harder, because you're just a picture on a screen to them. My ex said to me once "I think I treat guys from online harsher because its like some part of me doesn't see them as real". The other benefit is the ability to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 08:23 PM
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Red pill says "play the numbers game" and approach tons of women because one is bound to say yes (gambler's fallacy) While I agree with the rest of your post, ima put on my pedant hat: technically its only the gamblers fallacy if you start assuming that just because the last few girls have said no, the next one is due to say to balance it out. Like thinking that if a coins landed heads the last few times, its gonna be tails this time. Believing that out of thousands of women its likely that one …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 08:18 PM
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Its partly because someone can be an asshole in some ways but interesting an attractive in others, a lot of famous and well loved celebrities and personality are kind of dicks if you look at their personal life (John Lennon is the first name that springs to mind). Its partly because the elements that MAKE someone a charismatic high flyer can also make them kind of an asshole. Its partly because some industries and lifestyles are more cutthroat than others, and being an asshole is tacitly encoura…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 11:30 AM
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Both premises are wrong. You do not need a genuine DGAF attitude to successfully have consensual sex. Having sex will not necessarily give you a DGAF attitude. Neither do you need to have a lot of sex to have a DGAF attitude. But if you want a facsimile of a DGAF attitude for a night then, well, why do think alcohol is so popular?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 07:42 AM
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Its part of the common way romance works in TV and movies. The archetypal comedy/teen protagonist is a nice guy who is sort of awkward around sex (only the bad boy, love rival is shown to be confident about sex) who needs to do something to impress a girl (setting the plot in motion) and gets rewarded when the girl sees the selfless hero who he really is underneath.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 07:37 AM
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This is why /r/changemyview doesen't allow "hypocrisy" posts, because its too easy to draw up a strawman by saying "why does group say X but ALSO say Y?" answer: because the people saying X and the people saying Y are different people. If you're certain that your view is genuinely about people having a double standard, very often the argument still comes down to "well, one liberal said this thing, and some other liberal said this other thing, so liberals are inconsistent". Please refer to at lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:42 AM
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I kind of agree with the parato thing but It's a vastly different picture depending on if you mean: Pareto Principle, the 80/20 rule. 20% of men are banging 80% of the women 80% of the women or 80% of the casual sex? My anectdotal experience it's closer to the latter, there are a core of promiscuous men AND women who make up 80% of the casual sex that goes on. This is not the same thing as saying that these men are banging most of the women. In other words, if you drew out a chart of numbers of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 12:36 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 02:00 PM
1

Thats an absurdly broad definition. By that standard every man who's ever been attracted to a movie star who is clearly hotter than him is being hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 07:41 AM
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RP's aren't just trying to understand people, they're using a particular kind of lens to do so. One of the main things I find strange about RP's understanding of people, is how much they try to lean on evo-psych to explain people while avoiding all tools of regular psychology. If a red piller wants to explain someones behaviour, very rarely will they attempt to do so by "getting in their head" (i.e, empathy) and trying to account for that persons thoughts and experiences. They'll attempt a very …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 08:46 PM
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Yeah. I used to have no job and live in a squat in a warehouse. Women would fuck me but wouldn't call back. In some ways its way easier to get women for ONS if you present yourself as explicitly not being boyfriend material. If she thinks she might see you again she might be way more critical about whether she wants to hook up with you right now. If she knows she probably wont, she'll say "fuck it why not".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 10:54 AM
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Its interesting that TRP is based off the premise that men and womens psychology are different at a basic biological level, but to account for this particular difference /u/LewisCross looks to differences in socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 08:36 PM
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Women totally understand that many men are desperate, its one of the primary things they filter for when deciding if a guy is fuckable or not. They're hyper sensitive to detecting it even. You're looking at it as a moral thing "men are desperate, therefore women should be more sympathetic to it" which is a separate question. But they are totally aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:36 AM
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Jim Morrisons biography makes him sound like the most obnoxious motherfucker ever. In that respect I'd say he's the ultimate chad in that theres the biggest divide between his sex symbol status and how desperate he actually comes across in interviews and personal accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:32 AM
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Its an old term from NLP. Pickup artists used to be really into NLP and this particular one stuck around as PUA turned into TRP. Its actually a pretty useful concept. Everyone has their own way of seeing the world. In many interactions between two people you are seeing two different perspectives- two different frames of the situation. And often the person who is more certain in their frame ends up pulling the other person into adopting it. Here's a fictional example of framing, that line from Wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 06:49 PM
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Its a question for men? I answered it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 10:05 AM
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If I wanted to get laid tonight. Or score a threeway or any other kind of kinky adventure then yeah being a woman would make it 10000x easier. I don't think women have it easier across the board though. One important difference between men and women in dating: men bullshit to women more often than vice versa. Men are trying to impress, and that often comes out in the form of bullshit: brags, negs, cringy attempts to be alpha, lies about looking for a relationship when they actually just wanna pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 09:43 AM
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I've had one FFM and I found it extremely intimate. It was like I was being allowed into these girls lesbian sex- this moment I normally wouldn't get to be involved in. You're working as a team!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 05:38 PM
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You're on a sub dedicated to discussing PUAs. Its not total BS that people who post here could probably spot one faster than a random person who's not aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 05:12 PM
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I know she doesn't shower after every John, so I can't not think about some other dude's sweat all over her. Its pretty common for girls to shower in front of the client beforehand for this exact reason I hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 04:58 PM
2

will suffer from a worse experience with both romantic relationships with women If they're gay then why would they give a shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 09:22 AM
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While I'm not red pill find the idea of dating being comparable to an economy interesting, and not totally without merit. That said, this example demonstrates one of the problems of trying to appraise "value" along one axis.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 11:51 AM
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Women have described me as a 7/10. I'm not especially good looking. If I put it in video game terms my opinion is that picking up women is a skill with a high difficulty curve but a low difficulty ceiling. In that if you get anxious around approaching, knowing what to say etc then getting over that is a bitch. But if you can approach, be a good conversationalist, come off as natural and not creepy or desperate etc, there isn't much else to "learn". Approaching is the absolute hardest thing, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 02:09 PM
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In a sense you are correct, if a girl is into you it feels "natural" and doesn't feel like work. If you're working hard to try and make it happen with a particular woman, chances are it's not going to happen. However, confidence is what puts you in the situation to make those opportunities happen. Its like the football player who doesn't look like he's working hard, he just somehow always seems to have a knack for being where the ball is. He makes his own opportunities. I'm 28. I've been with 57…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 11:53 AM
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Among my friends my own age, Me possibly. Although I used to play with a grizzled old musician who claimed to have slept with 200+ women and his wife was prepared to vouch for it. Another guy I knoe who scores like crazy is a punk burnout who just goes up to women and says whatever the hell comes into his head. He's not especially good looking but he is likable in a beavis and butthead sense of humour way. Most of the women he gets with are way hotter than him but he just has no fear on who he h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 07:14 PM
2

According to the rules of abstinance only education, anything that jesus wouldn't like counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 04:57 PM
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I'm male, N: 57 I have a list just in case I ever forget a name or get an STI or something. As far as appropriate goes I don't care. I think the median for a mid 20's woman in a metropolitan city is around 10 though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 03:47 PM
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If you aren't comfortable being open around her, she wont feel comfortable being open around you. If she doesn't feel comfortable being open around you, she probably wont fuck you. Simples. The goal isn't to just dump all your neurosis on her, its to create a vibe where you both feel like you can be "real" with each other.
/r/seduction27/03/17 11:48 AM
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Tinder plus is worth it. OKC is not. POF is garbage.
/r/seduction27/03/17 11:44 AM
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Thats comparison points out something pertinent though. Generally one of the reasons why sexual crime is considered worse than other sorts of crime is because its more irrational. People rob for money, but people commit sexual violence for its own sake, just out of a drive to get their rocks off. As such, its rational to be more scared of rapists than torturers, because while torture is worse than rape, its not very likely you're going to get randomly tortured, and most sadists who WOULD want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 10:07 PM
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I'd wager its because the core of redpill is basically the idea that male/female interactions are inherently antagonistic. For certain types of guys hearing that gives them a kick up the ass to try and improve themselves so they can compete (I hate TRP but I can see why some guys claim success from it) but for other guys it just pushes them further away from being able to be comfortable around women. The best bit in Models is where he points out that having an antagonistic attitude towards datin…
/r/seduction23/03/17 05:36 PM
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