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Sure
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 12:25 AM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:25 PM
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Biology is the harder science.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:12 PM
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Getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:51 PM
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Okay. For clearing sake, it’s about phenotype.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 03:59 PM
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How were the elite men monogamous? They were polyamorous.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 03:50 PM
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Phenotype is what they’re after.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 03:46 PM
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They’ll still fuck if hotn
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:16 AM
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Cmon relax.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 08:16 AM
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My man!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:09 AM
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It is what it is. Mellow out dude. Have you tried shrooms.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 08:06 AM
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Then go to hell!
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:58 AM
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It’s based on raw biology. It’s literally natural selection. Hmm, I suspected you have another theory in the works, dr?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:58 AM
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:O
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:55 AM
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Dude whatever. Do you agree with the hypothesis?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:46 AM
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You are mentally Ill. Where are your parents in all of this?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:41 AM
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You’re not invited into my thread dude.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:39 AM
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Well, relative to your viewpoint.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:29 AM
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These apes secured multiple mates because of genetics and violence. I think as early as Egypt enforced monogamy was established because it kept the peace. All laws are artificial, but I don’t think people will be for abolishing the rule of law.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:28 AM
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It’s like 50 50. But 75 percent plus or minus is the phenotype.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:20 AM
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Then go to hell
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:14 AM
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Mainly phenotype, some behavior.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:12 AM
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Well monogamy made sure it was distributive. I think it’s demonized for not being distributive. As in, you’re all going for the top genes.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:08 AM
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Let’s just keep it on genetics just to be clear.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:04 AM
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Which references in particular?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:03 AM
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Yes, you can look at the 17 references on the wiki page
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:46 AM
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I think you’ll default to the exception rather than the rule. Just go the the Rule.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:34 AM
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For clarity sake let’s just make it the be all end all. It’ll make our lives simpler
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:29 AM
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Fine. Here is a hypothesis which may turn into a theory. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_son_hypothesis
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:19 AM
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Nah. It’s true. Everyone knows it. It’s the genes. Done.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:17 AM
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We both know it’s true it’s late. Do you actually want to find articles?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:13 AM
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Lol
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:10 AM
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it’s close to being the be it and end all. I mean that’s what dating for girls is.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:03 AM
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What’s your take on girls evaluating guys on genes
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 05:56 AM
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Buddy you say autistic in a thread, the autistic people come, and women this label these guts as autistic. You guys aren’t autistic lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:54 AM
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We both know what I meant.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 05:51 AM
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Yup they are by giving validation
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:42 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:40 AM
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Girls not finding guys attractive enough to have kids with is the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:04 AM
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Lmao girls are still fucking the most attractive guys. The rest are choosing to opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:01 AM
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Girls not finding guys attractive to have kids with is the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:57 AM
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They want kids. But with the right guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:52 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:51 AM
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Talk plain.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 03:40 AM
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Girls not finding guys attractive enough to have kids with is the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 02:51 AM
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They will still have kids, and have sex. Believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 02:49 AM
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This has nothing to do with socioeconomics
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 02:48 AM
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Masturbatory thought
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:53 AM
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Don’t masturbate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:53 AM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:50 AM
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Dude fine by me bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:44 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:41 AM
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Dude obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:40 AM
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The 2/3 of the article headline is about a fertility crysis and most men aren’t having sex. We both know that girls are shacking up with the few hot guys lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:39 AM
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Nope they know. They don’t want a ugly guy to keep complaining on and on about it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:27 AM
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Yet they can still do it and the vast majority of girls love it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:22 AM
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Also, women are having sex with hot guys. Don’t forget the other half
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:21 AM
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Lmao it’s about sex, which they are having plenty of. Most will be single mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:19 AM
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It’s a bit phenomenal that nobody taught us to prepare for. A new standard for determining your life quality that is totally random. Talk to your parents about surgeries
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 12:31 AM
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Maybe genes isn’t the right word, but sexual selected for. Such as Caucasian women with big breasts and hip to waist ratio, who are young.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 11:06 PM
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Maybe genes isn’t the right word, but sexual selective for. Such as Caucasian women with big breasts and hip to waist ratio, who are young.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 11:04 PM
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The ratio is stabilized as 50:50 by how chromosomes are arranged.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 10:43 PM
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Dude.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 10:35 PM
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But it’s just a talking point. Like if you can’t get laid, there’s something wrong if your first thought goes to war.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 10:33 PM
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It’s a problem, because it a random variable that’s being hammered into society that is not based on merit, but your genetics.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 10:18 PM
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So if a person is having difficulty getting laid the solution is to somehow ignite a civic war?
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 10:14 PM
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Well I don’t believe they have a vested interest in the societal consequence further than establishing a system where it gets easier to get laid. And instead of focusing on societal consequence, maybe they can start with how it might be easier for them to get laid.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 09:52 PM
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Well maybe. But you are not coming at this in a objective anthropologist. You are coming at this from a disenfranchised person, who is generalizing the disenfranchisement into future societal consequence.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 09:49 PM
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No,you are hurt because it in inherently unfair and you got the losing end of the stick. Than hiding behind a societal consequence to justify your feelings.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 09:23 PM
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No it’s literally be hot. You’ll go on dates and get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 03:30 AM
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The best dating strategy is be hot, or get enough surgeries to be hot. Anything else masturbatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 03:09 AM
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It’s usually the person concerned about your emotions are not the narcissist. Sounds like your mom is the narcissist.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 11:29 PM
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You may actually had a narcissistic mom then. Did your dad teach you anything? Did your mom? Who cared more about your emotional health?
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 04:46 PM
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He was absent with you and thus absent with her. She showed borderline traits, not narcissism.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 04:34 PM
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Nope. In a narcissistic family household, the male is in control, and is responsible for the family structure. In single -motherhood, if the women is too domineering , she will raise an incel son
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 03:27 AM
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Strongly disagree. I would say parenting styles are strongly correlated with inceldom. Mainly controlling styles, usually done by men, or by domineering Single moms
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 03:25 AM
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The mental health affects lead to a cycle of bad behavior and depressive outcomes, eventually finalizing to inceldom. Physical attractiveness is only partly to blame.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 01:39 AM
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Yes. Search up narcissistic family structures and search up narcissistic fathers and sons.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 12:41 AM
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You agree eh
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 10:52 PM
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Logical argument. I agree, it is a sound argument that greater access to sex correlates with higher self esteem and vice versa. But it is the chicken and the egg problem. The high self-esteem is built firstly, and primary from the family, and more internalized.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 09:43 PM
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I’m sorry, in a non controversial topic as personality traits, the science and overwhelming evidence wins.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 08:37 PM
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No, look at any scholarly article of gender and personality traits. Men score higher in narcism universally.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 08:34 PM
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The trend of narcissism in men and women have remained stable over time. Women are far less likely to have npd traits or npd. don’t know the statistics after social media, but it was before our moms time.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 08:30 PM
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It makes sense. The system is ran by the father, which influences the mother, which influences the children. I think we blame moms instinctually, but the statistics say narcissism in women is half then of men. Narcissistic women typically also do not have nuclear families. The mom most likely has borderline traits, and is an enabler of the father.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 08:26 PM
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I think you’re correct.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 08:20 PM
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Okay, understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:47 PM
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I think a significant factor that prevents loneliness and sexlessness is an empathetic father.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:43 PM
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Why do you have to bring faults into this. Relax man
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:35 PM
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Provide any scientific literature even coming close to any one of your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:32 PM
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Your using garbage vocabulary. It’s an empathetic father.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:30 PM
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Nope. They know the child is a loser from early on. They can either discuss it or ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:28 PM
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This is complex. The fundamental problem is the differences of parental empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:28 PM
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Nope. No conspiratory theory. Just bad parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:21 PM
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That’s rarely true. Supportive parents rarely produce narcissist children. Provided the parents aren’t suffering from another psychiatric disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:20 PM
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Same with every other country. New generations means new problems
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:18 PM
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Yes, they should do shrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:52 PM
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I think that’s what they mean. Not they they wanted them to give lessons, but to have an ear to listen to when having relationship problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:49 PM
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The studied variables are mating performance and emotional outcomes.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 06:48 PM
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It’s not their role to tell or instruct. But there role to listen and provide dialogue and connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:38 PM
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Wanna debate bud?
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 06:17 PM
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I’m sorry
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 06:16 PM
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Please. I like statistics.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 06:13 PM
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I don’t agree self esteem and easy access to casual sex is significantly positively correlated.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 06:13 PM
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I disagree. And I can be happy to compare statistics on how self esteem is gained. Looks can be a factor. Upbringing is the current consensus on how self esteem is developed.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 06:09 PM
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The father and son connection is necessary for self esteem.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 06:07 PM
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I’m sorry that happened to you
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 06:05 PM
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In my the US alone correct? If you can break down “the never getting laid and depressed” to “having sex as desirable and happy”, I don’t think physical attractiveness is a significant factor.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 06:02 PM
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Explain further.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 06:00 PM
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Ugliness is universal, attractiveness is universal. If the ugliness=incel hypothesis were to hold true, there has to be a positive correlation between people who are objectively unattractive and people that claim inceldom. I don’t think that you can statistically claim a significant positive correlation. Go on and post studies.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 05:56 PM
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I’m sorry about having a NPD dad
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 05:49 PM
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Nope. Statistically unlikely. The blame can often be instinctually placed on the mother for being to overbearing, as she is in the system herself.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 05:43 PM
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What incentive is there to lie on an incel forum?
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 05:35 PM
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You knew this from years ago, why are you repeating yourself!
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 05:34 PM
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Don’t get so mad lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:48 AM
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Fuck the painting. OP is not attractive. What is this painting bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:54 AM
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Lol I edited my comment. I agree what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:49 AM
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Oh sorry you were agreeing. Yea this guy needs to stop being gaslighted. It’s not his fault, but he seeks advice from women and cucks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:44 AM
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It is. You idiots should not mislead him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:51 AM
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Listen you idiot, it’s the looks. It’s ducking common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:55 AM
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Don’t bully them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:45 AM
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Right. Women screen for genetics and resources. Autism and social awkwardness are gaslighting to say you’re not physically attractive. Every women in my this thread is laughing at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:44 AM
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No. A lot of guys are now screaming that they are autistic because that’s what women say to them to be nice. They aren’t hot, and that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:38 AM
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Social awkwardness is gaslighting for unattractive men needing a excuse to blame other than they’re not hot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:32 AM
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Single mothers do a bad job
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:27 AM
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Your not autistic your just physically unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:15 AM
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I don’t care about you, I’m talking about OP said he’s been on 100s of dates and all of whom the girl ghosted or stopped returning texts. It means he’s not attractive. Don’t mislead him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:21 PM
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Lmao he has said he’s been on a lot of dates and didn’t get anything. If a girl really likes you she’ll sleep with you on the first date. We both know it’s true. Don’t bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:15 PM
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Lmao OP is not attractive. She was saying it to let him down easy. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:10 PM
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Lol she had other options who were more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:55 PM
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She had other options who were more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:48 PM
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Casual sex of men is going down. With young women it’s going up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:24 AM
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Okay. You made the statement that parents commonly do not notice autistic behavior patterns in children, and thus never have them evaluated. Please provide a research study supporting this claim. Furthermore, you said 40 percent never learn to speak functionally, which is hard to miss. You said the behavior patterns vary. The behavior patterns have to meet a specific criteria in the DSM5, if the child does not exhibit the minimal amount of these patterns, they do not have autism. DSM5. I’m guess…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:19 AM
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Dude, even spending 5 minutes of research, the the overall consensus is that it is now being over-diagnosed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:23 AM
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Both genders haven’t changed. Tech and culture have incentivized certain behavior that encourage women to hookup with men with good genetics, and men with lesser genetics to be shut-ins.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:45 AM
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This sub used to be about rationality. Autism is a developmental disorder. It stays the same through time. There are just as many men with autism as their were 100 years ago. Now we are better at diagnosing and treating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:42 AM
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Most videos on dating and women put them is a negative light
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 05:49 AM
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YouTube seems to be pro men
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 03:22 AM
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Who says it’s okay to hate men?
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 03:18 AM
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Men are lookist as well. I think all women would classify a human as a human, regardless if they’re attractive
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 03:18 AM
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Because the father is the source of the emotional support and self esteem of the child. Parentification is a term to describe a dynamic of narcissistic family system where the children have to emotionally take care of the parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:12 PM
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You need someone to talk to this about. Sadly, for men, this has to be a paid professional. But this is a a state I’m guessing is very psychologically distressing, and you need someone to hear you out. I would advise not to get trapped in forums as they affirm your viewpoints and don’t challenge them, keeping you trapped in the same emotional state.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 10:08 PM
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Social media, government policy, and cultural changes. These things happened rapidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:01 PM
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I think they need to talk to a professional where they can discuss their feelings rather than echochambers who validate their viewpoint.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 09:57 PM
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Giving him sports classes is one of the greatest things you can give him. But don’t push him too much and if he decides to quit that’s fine as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:51 PM
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No, you have to make sure the father is there for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:48 PM
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Girls are great to talk to. But you have to be care not to bring a lot of your own emotions into the conversation.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 09:45 PM
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https://m.facebook.com/ThisMorning/photos/a.470715372121/10157544638027122/?type=3&wtsid=rdr_0Zsp0O7gYbE77g2I3
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 06:59 PM
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If 2.8 percent of men are autistic, that will not skew the dating market. Developmental disorders usually have stable rates in the population over time. Therefore there were just as many autistic men in 1970s and beforehand. In fact, I would argue as autism is now widely more recognized, earlier interventions and appropriate therapy are lessening the behaviors symptoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:30 PM
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I’m sorry, I think I made my argument clear. I’m not sure expanding anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:22 PM
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Let me give you an analogy. If I have pain in my leg I can research on the internet and be convinced it’s due to a leg sprain. And think that is what it is my whole life. Or I can get x rays done, and find out I actually have been developing a tumor. And I can get treatment for it. Do you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:17 PM
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I told you the benefits in my previous post. Please reply to the points I made.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:07 PM
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There are two benefits. Too confirm if you actually have the condition, or actually have another psychiatric condition, Or mental health issue. There are different medications And different therapies for each and every condition. Or To find out you don’t meet criteria for any condition at all. Although there is no medication indicated, nor a specific treatment, There are therapies individuals can go to such as anger management or family therapy which in research have shown to increase well-being
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:58 PM
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Idk what your saying dude
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 03:53 PM
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A licensed psychiatrist can give an official diagnosis, which your file will officially show. You can get diagnosed as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:49 PM
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I would agree but the reddit’s culture and Reddit’s algorithms make subreddits the opposite of therapy. You are being shown the same views and you are not being challenged with new concepts or ideas. It creates at atmosphere of hopelessness, and it further pushes you away from a reasonable viewpoint. If you go force yourself just to stay outdoors for 12 hours a day, doing whatever you want, and then come back here in a week, you would be surprised how bizarre and out-of-touch these viewpoints ac…
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 03:06 PM
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Well it is a developmental disorder, due to genetics and prenatal development. The incident rate of types of disorders tend to stay consistent . So there would likely be the same percentage of autistic people from the early 1900s and before.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:21 PM
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Autism is not about behaving badly. It is a fixed pattern of easily identified behavior. I think health benefits for children are insured by the government in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 12:35 PM
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Well, is it they themselves by acting like this or is society incentivizing it this behavior and their simply playing the part? Why weren’t they acting like this in 1950s or 60s?
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 12:28 PM
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When it is only and all criticism, it becomes like you guys really hate women.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 10:02 AM
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Lol okay
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:58 AM
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This is false. Any studying on choosing partners indicates physical attractiveness is the most important factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:44 AM
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They can still do that and complain as well. The complaining part should be handled by a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:38 AM
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The research on pairing indicates social skills variance is negligible for attraction in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:31 AM
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They can say what they want, and I disagree with many of their opinions. But you’re doing whataboutism which is a logical fallacy.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 09:27 AM
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Yes.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 09:16 AM
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They are preserving feelings. They are also shit testing you to see if you can catch their lie. Lieing is a harsh word. Usually women do something to indicate that they’re gaslighting
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 09:15 AM
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They are preserving feelings. They are also shit testing you to see if you can catch their lie
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 09:14 AM
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They really like big dicks. Simple as that.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 09:11 AM
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I have said the words “this sub is claiming to be neutral on women” I used the word that they are covert. They will imply it but not say it directly. About the hate issue. Let’s look at the top 10 posts on this subreddit, and we can analyze comments that are complimentary towards women, and comments which are deregulatory.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 09:09 AM
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It can’t be autism the rates are so low.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:56 AM
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Okay, so their is not a sentiment of dislike of women in this sub? This sub is claiming to be neutral on women? Okay. Your second paragraph says they are essentially liars. So pointing out the fact women tend be more covert is important, but why keep talking about it. It is what it is. Where wad the males that tried to teach you this stuff?
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 08:48 AM
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But it wasn’t women who did this exclusively. I will say women are by design more deceitful. Did your father ever gave you advice on women? Did the movies you saw as a kid (usually written by men) had the loser getting with the hot girl? Yes there is still gaslighting, from both sides. But we know the truth, and it’s time to move foreword. Neurotypical is bullshit femenist propaganda. It’s not about being or not being neurotypical. It’s about whether a guy is dominant or submissive. That’s how t…
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 08:29 AM
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I don’t think it’s due to sudden psychiatric impairments that just sprang up from nowhere. I think a lot of it was caused by boomer parents, usually an over attentive mom and a emotionally unavailable father. Although I do well with women, I know this dynamic has hampered my success a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:22 AM
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Social anxiety disorder is common. If you have been diagnosed you should be prescribed an SSRI. I have a fairly big theory that bad or uninvolved parenting is a cause of a lot of men’s issues nowadays. You should have been prescribed when you were a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:01 AM
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That is called self labeling or other people’s judgement about you. But it has nothing to do with autism. Maybe a better word would be socially awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:58 AM
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You cannot be diagnosed with being on the spectrum. Either you have autism or not. The autism itself can vary on the severity. But you either have it or you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:47 AM
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I would think it’s not what the father says, but how emotionally and their he is for the boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:40 AM
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The problem I have is saying you are that thing when you are not. Like it makes no sense. You can say anything else of how you are similar to that thing (which you shouldn’t because it implies low self esteem) But not that you are that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:31 AM
1

It must be challenging. Are you doing therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:26 AM
1

I think you cannot statistically prove autism is miss-diagnosed, higher than any developmental disorder. So you have your words, no data.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:25 AM
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Yes, you have to be evaluated to get the diagnosis. My argument: The missed-diagnosis rate of autism is not significantly high. If you want to do research for my argument I can. But it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:22 AM
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I would say autistic traits in children are picked up really easily by parents. I’m a medical resident, and the traits begin showing around 4. They are very specific. It would be odd for parents not to evaluate a child if they noticed the symptoms. I think if I can find the missed-diagnosis rate, it would be low.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:18 AM
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I wasn’t going to rebut your first paragraph, but I will. This article came out this year. If autism is now widely recognized, the real number of children with autism should be fairly close to what the statistics say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:14 AM
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It’s reality. Your emotions are valid, and you should get someone to hear you out. Pragmatically, to lessen the anger and to let the emotions out to a professional, so you can think more rationally in real-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:10 AM
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That is not true. The DSM5 has a specific criteria. The culture has nothing to do if someone is diagnosed or not. Again, limits in finances can limit any other psychiatric diagnoses (major depression, bipolar, histrionic, borderline, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:06 AM
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This can be disproven as all personality or mood disorders can never be diagnosed. Autism is 1 of 100s. The rate is likely not higher. And this is 2.8 of girls and boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:56 AM
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The patient seeking the therapy (from his own fee will and not assigned) will likely have a selection which has both men and women. Zocdoc for example had options, male and female therapist. I agree men need sources talk about their emotions, and it’s a shame we have to pay to get that source. But that’s reality. men don’t have a lot of channels to talk about emotions, nor to they have a constant source of cheerleading. This is why you can get someone to provide the service.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:54 AM
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Then you are not autistic. You have no psychiatric bases of even associating that label to yourself, far less associate it with sex and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:41 AM
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If a hot guy is broke he’s still getting laid buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:06 AM
1

No. It’s about 3 percent of men and women who have been diagnosed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:05 AM
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Nobody understands what you just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:04 AM
4

Why do you think they have a hard time saying “it’s the most important factor?”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:58 AM
1

Probably both.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:53 AM
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Only 3 percent of both men and women are autistic. It doesn’t make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:52 AM
1

Dude, like 3 percent of Both women and men are autistic. It doesn’t make a difference in dating statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:52 AM
1

This is an idiotic statement. If a man wants a male therapist, he can easily get the one. The point of therapy is not to talk about solutions, but rather emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:50 AM
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Linking therapy with sex and relationships is a link that should not be made. Therapy is about yourself, and has no bearing on frequency of sex or successful relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:41 AM
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Dating is shallow. Whether you go to therapy or not, will do nothing for your sex relationship life. But, I think we are in an age where men are lacking individuals who will listen and care for them. This is essential for psychological well being. It can spiral men to reach their highest potentials. But therapy when it comes to sex and relationships are not related.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:39 AM
1

No, they blame themselves a lot more than bluepill
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:35 AM
1

Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:11 AM
2

Dude, how would it feel to know that a girl is you for money while in the past she was getting with guys for their dicks and bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:03 AM
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If an unattractive man does not simp, he is not more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:42 AM
1

Low class university.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:38 AM
0

Bill Clinton today likely be considered right leaning. I'm mocking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:18 AM
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Yes, If you ask bill Clinton today on his political thoughts, he will say he is right leaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:16 AM
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Bill Clinton today likely be considered right leaning. Bill Clinton today likely be considered right leaning. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:02 AM
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It would require less capitalistic mindsets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:56 AM
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Marriage rates are declining because people are marrying for love instead of business nowadays Marriage rates are declining because people are marrying for love instead of business nowadays. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:18 AM
2

It's a LARP
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:20 AM
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Lying. LARP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:20 AM
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He's lying
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:17 AM
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Lie. The amount of upvotes is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:04 AM
1

Yes, im sure women articles of what they're looking for ons will highlight physical attractiveness a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:24 AM
0

The people argument is irrelevant to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:18 AM
1

System.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:14 AM
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"Ask any chick who’s interested in ONS/hook ups (most of them aren’t, or aren’t usually), and I guarantee they’ll say they want someone hot." This is the argument I'm trying to refute. Google "what do you women look for in a ons" 2 credible sites pull up: https://www.wikihow.com/Pull-a-One-Night-Stand-With-Women https://textgod.com/what-are-you-looking-for-on-tinder/ ​ the word "hot", "Height", "muscles" "physical attraction" are vastly understated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:09 AM
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No. It's not the people, but the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:02 AM
1

I would incline to disagree. I think most studies show, individual happiness peaks about 100k per year, and any wage above that show no statistically significance in happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:56 AM
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Yes, me and you are very ordinary by statical measures as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:49 AM
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It's ordinary peoe who elevated celebrities not the system. Yes, it is the system. The ordinary people, are the system, because the ordinary is statistically the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:44 AM
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https://dmerharyana.org/world-happiness-index/ Most of Europe is generally a lot more happier than the US. In other words, they should be going to places which actually promote well-being.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:40 AM
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The algorithms will keep giving him more attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:33 AM
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They work themselves to death to climb 1 step on the socioeconomic latter, because of their perceived lower status. Which is interesting, because this system also promotes socialites and celebrity worship for...being popular?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:24 AM
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TRP and feminism is also part of this phenomenon as well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:15 AM
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His view points generate interest, thus there is a profit in promoting them, no matter how toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:06 AM
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Nice! And unrestricted capitalism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:02 AM
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"People being equal" is not aligned with American capitalism. The lower status, even with 20x the hard work of the rich, will probably remain in lower socioeconomic class. Yes, and we should all be as opposite as American Democrats, and adopt a nazistic view. What nazism said in their manifesto, to what they actually practiced are not aligned.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:59 AM
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And why is this such a millennial problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:48 AM
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Nazi Germany was insanely capitalistic. The notion of people being equal was the anthesis of their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:44 AM
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There have been instances in history where unrestricted capitalism has taken place. Unrestricted capitalism leads to fascism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:27 AM
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Yes, they will. Because it will be the trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:12 AM
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Capitalism is good. I'm talking about unrestricted capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:11 AM
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Unrestricted capitalism runs on greed. The US is insanely capitalistic, shockingly capitalistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:10 AM
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Yes, good. Which is motivated by profits.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:09 AM
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Society panders to the women imperative because it is better for business. Social media, instagram, onlyfans popularity is showcasing this. There is a neglect for actual data and research on what works best for individuals, because it is not good for business. As in, can dating apps, with all the data they have researched and collected, try to only match the most compatible potential couples? They don't do this obviously, they profit on male scarcity and validation of women, because of busines.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:08 AM
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My main point is that tech and capitalism is the main issue of like everything in American society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:59 AM
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It is reverse propaganda to mass societal gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:49 AM
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Click my link. Top site which the common person may find credible: https://www.elitedaily.com/p/this-is-what-women-are-looking-for-on-dating-apps-according-to-6-single-women-9547565 First quote in anything relating to attraction: "While I'm a big advocate of being honest about what you're looking for in relationships early on, people aren't always 100 percent sure of what they want. Even if a person says they're looking for more than just a hookup, that doesn't mean they're really ready to commi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:42 AM
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...okay now show me an actual social platform in any mainstream media where men are espousing this view. By social platform I mean actual discussions which are taken seriously by the common person
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:37 AM
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And why is feminism bullshit so prevalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:35 AM
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And unrestricted capitalism, especially in tech
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:35 AM
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Show me a social platform in any mainstream media where men are espousing this view He's using reactionary rhetoric, to generate interest, which in turn will make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:06 AM
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yes, especially with capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:54 AM
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Yes, but why is it so popular in men? It is basically about money, but the marketing theme is appealing why?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:53 AM
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Okay, skip the dating, advice, look at other relevant links that are credible. What are they saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:53 AM
2

As it will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:50 AM
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Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:39 AM
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He is a misogynist, but because it is too justifiable in American trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:39 AM
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No chad fucking will be rampant
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:38 AM
0

I think it's mostly a tech problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:36 AM
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I think the men will be in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:35 AM
2

Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:35 AM
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Why are people reposting?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:34 AM
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"Women think they have it harder in romantic interactions with men because they compare themselves to the highest SMV men" How does this relate to having it harder? Are men not comparing themselves also? Studies show men are more competitive than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:34 AM
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Good
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:53 AM
2

Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:32 AM
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How is some truth to that? Explain how your comment agrees whatsoever with the previous comment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:27 AM
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Depends who's allowed to censor
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:52 PM
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It's getting more censored.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:56 PM
1

No, government interventions have to regulate corperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:07 AM
1

Bro online dating is just a new trend. It’s already dying off. This is not a trend. Corporations have no interest in making users less addicted until there is some sort of government intervention. Mass, unrestricted, digital capitalism is uniquely an American phenomenon, and not seen in other parts of the world. Look at the "Tiktok" app in China; Make a dating profile in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:39 AM
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I would accept this as fact, but for not of corporations and social media changing the dating landscape. This is not an organic phenomenon, but a phenomenon brought on by technology. As in, our criteria of who to mate with are not governed by our natural evolutionary drive, but rather conditioned artificially.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:26 AM
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Dude when did evolution become so prominent in civilized society? Should I be murdering any male competitive up for higher chance of reproduction? No where in society do our primal instincts come first, other than online dating, a market controlled by corporations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:15 AM
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They are picky because of social media. Cut dating apps and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:59 PM
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US Modern dating and its aps, like everything in America, has turned into mass capitalism. Connection and chemistry means nothing if your looking for results. Women filter for cute guys, and anything else means little. Maybe old rich guys when they're in their late 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:42 AM
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That is the problem with dating. The problem is extreme shallowness, and that is the main hurdle men face.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:17 PM
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yes, we should all grow taller, become white, use steroids, and have unrivalled charisma while working a 9-5.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:13 PM
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:O
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:22 AM
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That is misleading. A women does not screen first for "is he looking for a relationship", and then "is he attractive." The screening is: "Is he attractive" and then "Is he looking for a relationship/other things"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:49 AM
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yo incels are unattractive and are likely mildly autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:10 AM
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Knowing the rational does nothing to help men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:26 PM
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Having more access for romantic relationship will alleviate loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:14 PM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:10 PM
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You are talking to yourself. I said none of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:01 PM
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Yes, this article is gas lighting. It is the access to women driving loneliness, not maintaining a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:16 PM
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​ "You don't like women if you think they are shallow, yet you want one" lmao, did u actually say that sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:01 PM
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Why would I insult women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:57 PM
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Everyone is shallow. The rapid increase in shallowness is the main driving force creating lonely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:49 PM
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women are great! I'm trying to describe the phenomenon, my personal life is my personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:42 PM
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That is the issue, most people are average, thus increasing looks standards will naturally make men lonely. Hence the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:41 PM
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It is because they are physically unattractive. Everything else is secondary.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:32 PM
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The problem men are having leading to loneliness is lack access to women. And the access portion is now based entirely based on physical attraction that men cannot reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:55 PM
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I think the algorithms was causative in creating the lopsided ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:04 PM
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Do you sleep with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:21 AM
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:O. Haha, this is why I think gay people are much happier than straight males.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:39 AM
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Yes, these corporations do not care about matching, compatability, or your mental health. It's pretty insane how much of a negative impact they have on society. Congrats that it worked for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:47 AM
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Yes, I agree. Civilizations have been partnering off men and women due to there socioeconomic status for centuries
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:43 AM
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That's good then. I think its fine if women have more matches than men, but when the ratio is normalized to 1:50, it starts to become problematic and have real-life consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:42 AM
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I think the algorithms dating companies are using it is profitable to keep men in scarcity and women in constant attention. When online dating first began, and when the algorithms were primitive, the pairings were more natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:32 AM
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Well, hey lucky you. Also, dating apps allows you to see 100s of people at once, with most guys swiping right. But the percentage of men who fit your criteria is still 2%.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:21 AM
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Putting your attributes and privileges into the app would not change the % of men in the US who fit your criteria. The result would be the same as it the population is the being measured are the men in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:19 AM
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Yes, obviously. I think it was just targeting the major things people are to swipe right on/have requirements on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:58 AM
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https://igotstandardsbro.com Every girl should do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:22 AM
1

if its over for most men logically its over for most women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:11 AM
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There are definitely guys that these things might happen to. They're usually very into the party scene and are more physically attractive than 95 percent of other men. Or they are just somewhat attractive, and the women are very unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:22 PM
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Get plastic surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:46 AM
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The solution is to be an 8, so you can have the exact same attitude and still get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:45 AM
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Yes, im sure men are willing to fork over over half there assets because they can't do 1 hour of household cleaning
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:44 AM
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It's not the horniness, its the governing laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:42 AM
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Women within 10 feet of my SO: grabbing his ass, “falling” into his lap, giving him their numbers on receipts, begging him for a date, asking ME to “share him” yes I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:13 AM
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Oh haha, I'm sorry I thought you were the OP. My mistake!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:49 PM
1

Chad is a low-value man whore
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:23 PM
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If women are so strongly inclined to play by their biological imperative if they have the leverage is society, then, by the same token, men would play equally to there biological imperative if the power shifted to their side.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:01 PM
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Chad is by definition someone who has slept with a lot of girls. Ergo, chad is high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:42 PM
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If chad is low value, why are girls sleeping with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:53 AM
1

Yes, but I think my disagreement might be a bit more nuanced than your sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:22 PM
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Okay, good discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:41 PM
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I don't agree. I think this mindset will over-value presentability rather than character- causing people to excessively have conflicts, and superfluous relationships, and overall be more lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:48 AM
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Well, again you are citing an opinion piece that is interpreting a study. This is not a meta-analysis. A study has an abstract, introduction, statistics, discussion, conclusions, and citations. "And by a wide margin, Americans who have used a dating site or app in the past year say the experience left them feeling more frustrated (45%) than hopeful (28%)." I don't think 95 percent of men are exclusively swiped left on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:44 AM
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But suppose online dating continues to be the main default of contemporary dating, it's reasonable to assume it's a bad thing that being photogenic and photo-taking skills are at the forefront.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:38 AM
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"Men and women who have used online dating in the past five years have contrasting experiences with the amount of messages they received Chart shows roughly six-in-ten men who have used a dating site in the past five years feel as if they didn’t receive enough messages But there are stark gender differences in the amount of attention users report receiving. Some 57% of men who have online dated in the past five years report that they did not receive enough messages, while just 6% state they rece…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:24 AM
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Your link.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:49 AM
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Should the ability to be photogenic and have photo-taking skills be this heavily based on dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:43 AM
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This isn't a study and is not statistics. It is an opinion piece. The opinion piece actually supports the comment you're replying to, rather than your own opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:39 AM
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Which person, in a western setting, says the words "Hi, my name is joe, please date and send bob and vagine," or anything similar to the following. Would you say it's greater than 5 percent?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:09 AM
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Which guy actually says these things in real life in western culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:45 AM
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*they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:49 AM
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Looks are not a small part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:44 PM
1

Hypercompetiveness because of scarce resources based on genetics and worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:43 PM
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Yes, the comments of the TikTok videos are making fun of him, but indirectly. They're directly mocking the rational girls use to hook up with him. With the comments that that the video maker received by girls in real life, whether or not they can be interpreted as a joke is determined by whether he has a high success rate in girls sleeping with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:56 PM
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They're not making fun of him, they're making fun of themselves and other girls who go for guys like him They're making self-deprecating remarks, because they know going for guys this problematic and stupid, hence the humour in absurdly justifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:15 PM
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They're not making fun of him, they're making fun of themselves and other girls who go for guys like him They're making self-deprecating remarks, because they know going for guys this problematic and stupid, hence the humour in absurdly justifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:13 PM
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They're not making fun of him, they're making fun of themselves and other girls who go for guys like him They're making self-deprecating remarks, because they know going for guys this problematic and stupid, hence the humour in absurdly justifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:12 PM
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If the subset of women you're dating is making the amount you're making; they're more likely concerned about stability and consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 05:16 AM
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There are very few women who think 200k isn't enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:59 AM
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It's a hypothetical. Usually, the meals are between 20% of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:47 AM
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Seeing prostitutes, although there have been few studies, has been seen as unfavorable to the well-being of men and women. Most clients are married and have to go to improvised, crime-filled areas. A large portion of men who visit prostitutes have a prior criminal history. The rate of violence between clients and sex-worker is also dramatically high.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:43 AM
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Yea, then I agree. Usually, these things are pretty well established after the first few dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:25 AM
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It's an extreme version of the scenario you proposed. The logical conclusion to your scenario would be to first gauge the financial status of your partner, then weirdly somehow calculate in your head how much the bill is going to be split between you two, then verbalize it. With the person earning less being incentivized to have a more expensive meal and the person earning less to have a cheaper meal. "uh yeah, since you make 300% more than me, that would be 250 for you. And since I only had app…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:16 AM
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What if person A ordered a 500 dollar meal, and person B ordered a 20 dollar bill. Regardless, this idea is flawed because dating, especially successful dating, is the opposite of a logical/business transaction
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:42 AM
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"Only 2/3" should be replace with 2/3.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 03:30 AM
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Maslow hierarchy of needs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:09 PM
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Haha, I'm brown. Honestly, I can say my argument, and you can say yours. But ultimately it's the statistics that will ultimately decide if intervention is needed or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:33 PM
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What are your thoughts of women being more attracted to aggressive behaviors (for short-term flings), more so than men? https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-019-0262-5
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:09 PM
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Exactly, and that's why incentives come into play. Imagine if suddenly women were put in an environment of social Darwinism. What about blacks? Muslims? As a society, we naturally respond to people who are struggling in society. Although I don't think the statistics are disastrous as of yet, in a few years, if trends continue, we'll have 50 percent of the male population severely depressed and lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:00 PM
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Honestly, my point isn't gender-based. I think incentives work equally for men and women. With the Harvard example, people apply to Harvard not because it's difficult to get into, but because it is the best college in the world. If suddenly the acceptance rate of Harvard was 50 percent, and it still remained the top school, the application rate will no doubt increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:37 PM
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haha maybe. But I think love is love.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:53 AM
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*if they were high-school sweethearts. Same if a 5/10 can get a model girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:45 AM
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Haha never said hot men date down in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:41 AM
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Not really. A 5/10 girl can't get a millionaire model to commit to her. Maybe she can, if they were high school sweethearts. I think the game eventually equals out to both males and females; males have to wait a little bit longer for it to even out though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:22 AM
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It's the difference in effort in what the average girl needs to get those things, vs the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:19 AM
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Motivation is the internal need to do something, whether for extrinsic or intrinsic effect. Maybe you want to work to earn money, or maybe you just love your job. Incentives are the barriers or rewards associated with that work, which can be manipulated. It's basic behaviorism. Say a scientist presents a dog with a treat. In one scenario, when the dog goes for the treat, it gets shocked; in another scenario, when the dog goes for the treat, it gets a pat on the head. The dog, in scenario one, wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 03:07 AM
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My point isn't about motivation, it's about incentive. Current research shows women and men roughly have the same desire to be successful. There are dozens of studies between gender and motivation, and there has yet to be conclusive proof that one gender is inherently more motivated than the other. https://www.eurofound.europa.eu/publications/article/2006/gender-differences-in-performance-motivation ​ In terms of dating, I think a lack of desire from the opposite sex can definitely dampen motiva…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:16 AM
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Whether they were kept out, or whether not they chose not to apply as much as men is arbitrary. What matters is government intervention incentivized a desired outcome, and women are better for it. ​ There's naturally going to be intervention when statistics keep getting worst. Women have sons, brothers, fathers-It'll be a societal issue than a gender issue, or a dating issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:41 AM
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Well, governments incentivize certain desired behaviors from subsections of the population all the time. Look at affirmative action, women-based scholarships into STEM. What we need to ask ourselves, are men struggling enough that certain government action is necessary, and what should that action be. As statistics go, women are currently outperforming men in virtually all aspects. And I think we're going to see certain programs being implemented to incentivize men as a whole in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:17 AM
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that's the problem. We need to give men greater incentives to actually work hard. People are only as good as the incentives they're provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:14 PM
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might help 10-20 percent. But won't a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:13 PM
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It's not up to you, it's evolutionary. One of the key components of many religions is the chastity of women, stemming from the biological imperative that men want to know their offspring is there's, aka the women is not sleeping around with random men. It's like a guy buying presents, flowers, and spending money lavishly on his previous girlfriend, and spending nothing on his current wife. He may say those presents meant nothing, but the wife won't be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:30 PM
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Haha, yea logical response. But being or not being obsessed doesn't change objective reality. And I do think society is trending toward how you are external than internally, which will no doubt uptick plastic surgery, eugenics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:32 PM
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Yea, it's not a theorem bud; this is an internet forum. I never meant this to be a calculated thought on my expression about dating dynamics; more of a loose association. But I do think my general principles are spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:39 AM
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Hyperbolic language. nobody's obsessed with comparing themselves to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:33 AM
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Well, it depends. On how you feel inside; internal plays the majority of the role. On your self-esteem; internal plays the majority of the role. But, I think, as dating gets more superficial- it'll become more about how you look from the outside than in. And I think girls already understand this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:23 AM
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we are so going off the original point of my topic it's ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:18 AM
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haha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 09:44 AM
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Yea accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 09:34 AM
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Yea but IDK. I think there are a lot of better jobs that "make money" which aren't low status (engineers). I think if someone is smart enough, they should seek out a high-paying job, which is still socially lucrative. Cause people trade in high job potential for low sociability; which I don't think should be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 09:30 AM
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Like honestly nothing to do with ur argument; why r u putting ur motto as an Indian programmer. like dude...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 09:27 AM
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yea sports; not games lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 09:20 AM
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Yea I think so, but I disagree. It's more about our appearance than it's ever been. Useful talents are outmoded. It's what people make us feel good, and that's hot people We are living in a world of hedonistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 09:18 AM
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dude wtf r u talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 09:13 AM
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I think there is a very real line between genetic and personality. I think people go for now for genetics than personality, no matter how sad it is,
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 09:11 AM
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My point is, when will guys start following up with the same rhetoric; aka faking the same posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:59 AM
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okay whatever with genetic. Half of that guy's click to is fake we all know that. Like its not new to me dude. Like what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:57 AM
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Sorry I disagree with you. Instagram models have a tap of what men want to click on. And I am very sure; a lot of Instagram models have had surgery just to appeal to our biological imperative. Like women aren't stupid. They see what girls get the highest likes and the copy it, Like its obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:52 AM
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well, I think you're making a homoerotic complex. I just think men and women, in this day and you (especially when their you-cause I'm young) respond lookism more than any other doctrine. And I think the trend will continue, and be further exacerbated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:48 AM
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Well, i'll say this. Internal validation should be anyone's goal to feel good and feel secure for themselves. I think internal validation is the most important step. But then you want to feel others feel good. And I think where external validation comes from; its for them to feel good than for me to feel good
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:44 AM
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dude thats rude...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:39 AM
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No I don't think so. I think men are obsessed with chastity, being young, and being "ooh wow so new to me" I think women are obsessed with being "the one he wants' 'the girl who understands", and the "girl who's different" am I completely off base?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:38 AM
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I think it's a result of weak men. The culture is driven by women. Why can't men stop it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:25 AM
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I think it's technology. But IDK we'll see how plays out, I'm not too worried. But I do think we should keep in mind the mentality of the men and women of our society (and anyone else).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:55 AM
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But that is the thing; I think the ones who decide NOT to participate gets the short of the stick; we all know people who didn't try to look good, and tried to do their own thing; ​ it just doesn't work- and why doesn't it work?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:51 AM
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Wow; amazingly accurate. Which is great cause I'm almost a PS lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:43 AM
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Dude, it's evolutionary; I would never say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:42 AM
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Same for girls too lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:39 AM
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Yea It's true; I'm sure ill find someone I love. But like, look at how it's going. Maybe it's going above the purple pill, but it's hyper-importanicing eugenics in an arms race to get laid the most. Men obviously realize it more than the women cause they actually have to understand it to get laid. But it's all so sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:36 AM
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Well, I think genetics are playing more of a role than they should. Like idk I'm so over genetics being the say-all. But see how Snapchat reacts to hot guys vs ugly guys. See how Instagram reacts. Popular culture is trending that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:33 AM
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The external appearance is basically the phenotype of the genes we're created with. Social skills and personality, I don't think I have correlated with anything. I don't think what we are external can be strongly changed, but maybe it can-I think massive fraud is a good way to do it. Dude-we've always been vain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:28 AM
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I think lookism is very glorified. I just think it'll keep getting more glorified as the generations go on. How you look is being more glorified than what you are, and I think the trend will keep going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:13 AM
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Yea, I agree; we are living in a very lookist culture. But men being men, will be the ones to be rational (women can be rational too lol)-aka being more image-obsessed than girls to beat them at their own game; aka to get plastic/height/muscle surgery to look phenotypically better. or to be savages, to be more aggressive than any other guy. But obviously, this strategy will be mute in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:05 AM
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That has nothing to do with my question. But I agree with you all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:58 AM
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I use the terms interchangeably. I agree, and in the past those two points could be important. But in the dating landscape of today, being a 4 will gain you zero casual or long-term partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 12:40 PM
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I think it really depends on ur baseline. Short, asian minority and bad face structure? Very little you can do to up ur sex-appeal. Even getting a ridiculous body will minimally up the potential of women who find u attractive. Tall, white, and obese guy, with great bone structure? Than losing weight will substantially help, because he had a good base to begin with. I think about there might be 20 percent of guys that have a good base, but don't maximize on it (might be obese, might have cystic a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 12:21 PM
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I think it really depends on ur baseline. Short, asian minority and bad face structure? Very little you can do to up ur sex-appeal. Even getting a ridiculous body will minimally up the potential of women who find u attractive. Tall, white, and obese guy, with great bone structure? Than losing weight will substantially help, because he had a good base to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 12:15 PM
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status are frequently arrogant assholes that women don't want to commit to Yes, precisely because they are good looking and have status, thus having options to pick and choose women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 11:05 PM
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Bar isn't higher for relationship material lol. The men who get one night stands are frequently a lot better looking, have more status, then men who ultimately get the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 07:07 PM
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Agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 09:51 PM
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I think photos depict a fair representation of the physical attractiveness of a person if he/she is not using deceiving angles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:47 PM
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Well since women swipe roughly on 10% of men (being generous), that is saying he is in the 90th percentile of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 11:21 PM
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u can try Cognitive-behavior therapy to change your mental schemas and behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 08:05 PM
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increase ur looks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 10:50 AM
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I don't agree. I do think women want a man that is better than her. Whether or not he treats her bad is irrelevant. An unattractive short minority man can deploy all the red pill tactics he wants, he's still not going to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 10:39 AM
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Eh, but is the lemon worth the squeeze at that point? Seems an awful amount of effort for a slim chance for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 10:30 AM
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I think it's the makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 10:27 AM
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Big correlation between the two. Also, broadness is correlated with height as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 10:16 AM
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True. But women permit/allow more leeway for an attractive man to show creepy/weird afflictions than unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 10:06 AM
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Being tall gives you a substantial advantage in weight and reach, indicating you will come out the victor in a fight. The UFC has weight rankings for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 10:00 AM
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Mistakes are fine, and making good life decisions after making mistakes is encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 05:10 PM
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People aren't consistant. Let's say the women adopts a 4 date rule, before sleeping with a guy. Although I would assume she would follow this rule for most guys, Im betting their are at least some guys she would fuck the same day, some guys could be within minutes of meeting them. And yes, their attractiveness will be strongly correlated on how fast she sleeps with these select guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 11:23 PM
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Sex isn't a reward? Is that a serious arguement? No, there aren't buttons, but their are observable patterns which when manifested can lead to sex. Individual human beings yes, but the macro patterns are there, and are a strong driving force for male behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 05:57 PM
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I think men should absolutely be held accountable, and the justice system favours women heavily. Now why would shitty men be shitty unless being shitty is incentivized? This brings up the fact of how toxic masculinity is often rewarded (by sex). A heavy grievance of black men is that women often go for the irresponsible rather than the dutiful and studious. Look at the current entertainment industry, why are raps about fucking hoes, doing drugs praised? Why are stars with face tattoos, who rap a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 05:08 PM
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I agree, and women buckling is becoming all too common recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 03:50 PM
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Personality, as in an "evil" personality, matters very little and takes a backseet to looks and charisma, in regards to whether the girl will put out or not initially.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 03:14 PM
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In their 20s girls, especially in more sexually lax countries, definitely prefer fuckboys, at least for sexual relationships. In their 30s, they might go for more stable characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 03:01 PM
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LOL I have a whole metric to judge my future partners on, not only if they put out or not. Here's the thing, precedents are fine, they should be encouraged. But in my observation, the precedent is not set by time, but rather by the TYPE of guy. As in, a specific type of guy can always hit it, while another type of guy has to wait around 5 dates. I have yet to seen any women who sets time-based precedents regardless of the character of her date, as in, she MUST only sleep with him on the 5th date…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:59 PM
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LOL have you ever been to a highschool or college?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:52 PM
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What im saying is the fuckboys get women who are attractive and HIGH quality. Nerds might get non-attractive, but high quality (in other area) girls, but fuckboys still have a overwhelming monopoly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:50 PM
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"a woman who holds out for an attractive, compatible guy with a steady job, nice friends and good values is an overly picky hypergamous witch." LOL such a mis-statement. Nobody would define it as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:37 PM
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LOL ignooring the problem is what causing the single motherhood rate the skyrocket.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:34 PM
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No they are. They aren't the nerdiest, but they are attractive. Nerd girls typically dont flock to nerd men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:33 PM
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"They don't need to take responsibility to you or anyone else." Single motherhood rises dramatically in gynocentric communities. Single motherhood is one of the worse things for society, often breading areas of extreme poverty and crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:32 PM
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We want consistancy. IF she doesn't put out for guys, then fine, she shouldnt put out for you. If she does, then great, she should put out for you. Its when certain girls put out for certain guys, but string other guys along, then thats when it becomes a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:19 PM
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LOL than youre gonna get cucked for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:18 PM
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Yes, but does he LOOK dominant? AKA strong brow ridge, muscles, et cetera?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 09:43 AM
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Easier said than done.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 09:42 AM
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LOL, dominance is basically how dominant you look. You think a 5'4 indian weak chin man can be percieved as dominant?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 04:17 AM
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LOL the TRP wouldnt exist if "Everyone knew this." None of the pills would exist.
/r/askTRP20/12/18 06:31 AM
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Its like womens aversion to short men. Short men earn less, have lower status jobs, etc. Data prove these trends, but the distaste is instinctual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 01:39 PM
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https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1490411769854.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 11:25 AM
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Men are okay with sleeping with a women with a n count of 100 because it requires little emotional investment. Men are not okay with dating a women with n count of 100 because it requires a lot more emotional investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 10:28 AM
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Look at women-centric subs and men-centric subs. Men are usually a lot more self-blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 10:21 PM
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LOL Its true. Its so funny to see in asian families, the daughter usually ends up a hypergamous slut, and the son usually ends up being virgin
/r/TheRedPill25/07/18 02:42 AM
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Feminist think their somehow different. RP think their somehow different. It's called group dynamics. What really matters is what world view most accurately described reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 11:53 PM
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LOL, shaming is needed. Look at how dating is progressing and will become as shaming is being lessened.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 10:32 PM
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Not true for the vast majority. Studies show women actually prefer men with a lot more experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 08:04 PM
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Their not. Theres not incentive to be a beta anymore, or wage-slaving away. Agree with your second point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 01:29 AM
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I never said trade up. I said their just more difficult to satisfy, especially in this age, and the problem is getting worse the more sexual liberation and financial emancipation. There are ALWAYS financial betas available for women, no matter what age. Women tend to have safety nets available. And cheating is not always for financial reasons. Maybe he just doesnt provide excitement, maybe she wants to have sex with taller, more attractive guys. Now im sure that once you get past the age of 50, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 01:19 AM
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Women report much higher rates of marriage dissatisfaction. Also gay men have the healthiest marriages (much more likely to stay together), and lesbian divorce rates are very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 11:01 PM
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answer me this then. Why isnt the same trend shown for gay men. Also lesbian relationships have much higher domestic abuse rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 10:27 PM
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Interesting lesbian couples have a much higher rate of divorce than hetersexual couples, and gay men have a much lower rate. I think women are simply harder to satisfy, and put much of their emotional stock on the relationship (more nitpicky), creating problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 09:07 PM
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why are 80 percent of divorces filed by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 09:06 PM
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From personal experience they create a lot more instability in relationships (testing), than men. They initiate 80 percent of divorces. All my friends that are girls have cheated or attempted to cheat, especially in the tinder era.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 10:04 PM
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I think men don't usually put that much emotional and cognitive stock into relationships as women. They don't need best of the best, they have other hobbies and interest, and move on to other things instead of being incessantly preoccupied whether they found the best mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 09:56 PM
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No, there standards go UP, depending on whats available. If men all men suddenly became -2 points less attractive, women will still pair off in equal rates, rather than be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 07:44 AM
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This is exactly what the op is argueing. Women's standards go UP depending on the people available, thus they are never satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 07:41 AM
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LOL cheating rates in marriage are roughly the same
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 07:30 AM
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LOL what an idiotic statements. Men will gravitate to things that gets rewarded. If being feminist means never having a sex life, and the same girls mock you for it while getting fucked for a guy thats the complete opposite, then feminism is a joke to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 08:13 PM
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Why is this any different from women, who are also constantly looking for a new partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 06:34 PM
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LOL monogomy is the hallmark of a stable society. What incentive is their to build civilization if your moral and unattractive? I think I really understand how women work at a biological level. They select for genes and high dominance. I think what they preach is the exact opposite, which is why we're seeing so much cognitive dissonance these days. So funny how you can literally say suck my dick to a women, and she'll get turned on and do it lol, but never do it for a guy the genuinely cares abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 06:01 PM
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http://is2.4chan.org/pol/1529111579720.jpg Trust me, as someone with a high count, and friends with a high count, being thugish definitely attracts more women (lots of women cheat on their bfs with these guys as well). Very hard to find genuine women who like a genuine man. Definitely exist though, but tend to have strong moral and family values, and great self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 05:37 PM
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I think you mean well, but the science does not back your viewpoint. Even two partners drastically reduces the pair bonding ability of women. I think men are impacted by this as well, but they seem to have better compartmentalization and seperation of sex and commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 04:29 PM
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Here's the thing, young teenagers are awful at retaining relationships. The more sex positive the atmoshpere is, the younger they will have sex, and probably more sexual partners. We are seeing the ramifications of it right now. I'm in college and I have friends who have slept with a 100 guys. These women CANNOT form bonds, it is impossible. Now if we want to live in a monogamous society, then this is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 09:24 PM
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LOL. There is a very logical reason why female sexuality has been restrained throughout all civilizations throughout time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 08:52 AM
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LOL. No. Healthy sexual activity and acceptance of casual sex always leads to further degenerate behavior. If I'm allowed to do this, then what about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 08:50 AM
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In biology, women select for resources and strong long-term potential. But women also select for genes and aggressive behavior for short term mating. This is a biological fact. Without proper guidance, education, a family unit, and morals, women become very prone for short term mating. Women, not men, are the selectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 04:12 AM
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Fewer men, but not enough to account for 71% of single mothers. What we can tell from this, however, is women do not select at all for stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 08:18 PM
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Less family/societal pressure to marry stable men. More socially accepted/encouraged to date hyprmasculine men. More accepted to cheat/ and have sex out of wedlock. Less emphasis on purity/virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 09:33 AM
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Look at the african american community for example, where hypergamous controls are a lot more at ease. 72% Of Black Kids Raised In Single Parent Household. This is female mate choice in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 12:05 AM
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No, I said if all hypergamous control were lifted. Women still cannot date who they want, they have an extreme societal and family pressure to date stable men (hint: these are not the men they really want to date). Watch as the trends shift, as more pressures are lifted, and more access are granted, women will increasingly select for genes. The short, ethnic, ugly young men are going to be heavily decentivized in the coming years. Your completely missing the complexities of my argument on female…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 10:28 AM
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"Harms noone." Wrong. If all hypergamous control were lifted (no slut shaming, all access to men, subsidies by government), women will flock to the men with the strongest genes. Worker bees of the society will be left without wives or sex, and even if they did get a partner, she would quickly trade up. This would incentivize alternate mating strategies such as hyper masculinity (violence) to make up for lack of genetics, further destablelzing society. Whats to blame? Womens hypergamous nature, r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 10:01 AM
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LOL as if to say women make rational decisions on who they should fuck or marry It is the main cornerstone of society and religion to curb women biological impulses.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 09:28 AM
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LOL a vast amount of statistics show that women have a much narrower and harsher field of what they consider attractive than guys
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 09:21 AM
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obviously not. I would say it'll boost you about 10% in normal attraction generally (as long as its not self deprecating or you come out looking like a clown).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 04:07 AM
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I think its good for relationships. But in of itself its not that important for attraction (wont get her to fuck you only because of it).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:25 AM
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We judge variables by isolating them. Thus if we take gilbert godfrey, and made him very unfunny. Then we made him very funny, how much of his chances go up? Let's take an attractive man. Make him very unfunny. Then make him very funny. How much do his chances go up?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:02 AM
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Disagree. Women and rampant female nature without controls, and increasing level of connectiveness (tinder), are a real, and lead to a destabalized society, and a worsening of behavior. Beta males are also bad for society.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/18 01:59 AM
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https://www.gilbertpodcast.com/women-say-they-want-a-guy-with-a-sense-of-humor-they-dont/ Read this. It's very insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 12:52 AM
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what are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:27 PM
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Lol I’m in med school
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 05:51 PM
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Communication is defined as the imparting or exchanging of information or news. By all leading definition it is defined as an exchange of information. Now, if the communicator is not able to exchange the information accurately (the signals are set in way that are easy to misinterpret or ambiguous), then that is not an accurate communicator. Now if women try to purposely try to subvert direct methods, by perhaps putting in manipulation, or being purposely indirect, then fine. But if communication…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 08:46 AM
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Communication as in being unambiguous and clear of your wants and needs. Manipulation tactics, such as what you describe, should not be used in a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 07:58 AM
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I literally said one sentence LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 06:06 AM
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https://www.google.ca/search?rlz=1C5CHFA_enCA766CA766&biw=1440&bih=731&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=0fTrWvm8GsyejwOyn4bYBA&q=erotic+novels+men&oq=erotic+novels+men&gs_l=psy-ab.3...2223.3288.0.3553.5.5.0.0.0.0.71.239.5.5.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.zNamveoHseQ -The look is the basic criteria. If its far far more than looks then why isn't there one ugly model? One model thats short? One model thats fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 05:53 AM
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No it really can't lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 05:43 AM
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Go look up any erotic novel targeted to women. Go to the top results of r/ladyboners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 05:42 AM
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That's like 5 percent of the male population. Too much choice!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 05:24 AM
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It's not so much as different. Men have effective communication styles (clear, nonambiguous). Women have poor communication styles (unclear, ambiguous).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 05:04 AM
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Communicating in ways where men don't know the severity of an issue is not indirect/direct communication, it is simply poor communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 05:00 AM
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Yea exactly depends on the girl. Usually true for high-school, or freshman college. After that however, women develop a disgust to needy behavior (If she's high smv, she's definitely going to have beta orbitors). This is why I Think its best to go for the inexperienced nerdy girls.
/r/askTRP27/04/18 11:11 AM
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Over pursuing is basically what the girl defines as over perusing. So if you message her, and she takes a long time to reply, or gives short answers, your over persueing. Basically its a judgement on who's putting the effort in maintaining the relationship (she should do about 60% of the work). How do you get her to do more work? Increase SMV.
/r/askTRP27/04/18 11:06 AM
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Depends on the girl. But if she's a high smv girl, she knows exactly how much she's worth, and probably gets a lot of attention. Usually when girls like you, they make it easy for you.
/r/askTRP27/04/18 10:58 AM
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Approach, but don't over persue and don't chase. Initiate, but let her also come to you.
/r/askTRP27/04/18 04:38 AM
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In western, sexually liberal countries, emphasis is placed on face, race, and height, more than other features. Status can make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 12:14 AM
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Keep her away from social media (espeically between 12-18 years old). Look at the things being promoted in popular culture, these are not the values you want her to have.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/18 11:57 PM
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A good rule of thumb is to show just as much interest as her, or less. Never show more interest, unless she has earned it.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/18 11:39 PM
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LOL you need a certain amount of genetics first. The vast majority of guys dont reach that standard
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 10:09 PM
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http://thepopularman.com/forever-alone-guys-science-says-yes/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 08:07 PM
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https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/male-loneliness-megasahd/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 07:57 PM
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http://www.upcisam.com/about/singles-statistics/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 07:57 PM
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The phenomenon of displaced men is absolutely taking place, more and more men are checking out of society. Society exist because there's incentive to work, when incentives are taken away, there is no reason to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 07:13 PM
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I think a lot of people take it so far is because the mainstream view "women are wonderful" is so ingrained since childhood that the violation of that is shocking. I think this is beginning to change, as society is coming to terms to the behavior changes sexual liberation brings (less woman are wonderful indoctrination when young). Also remember that most of these guys are teenagers and/or young adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 12:14 AM
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No girlfriend in an LTR should be going to clubs. Cleavage profile pic is also a red flag. Make your boundries clear, and if she can't follow them, leave.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/18 11:35 PM
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thats the biological dictionary definition, not the redpill definition as outlined by rolo (creator of the red pill), in specifics to female human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 04:33 AM
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What's interesting is that cheating rates vastly diminish depending on whether the woman is a virgin wife. https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1490/41/1490411769854.jpg
/r/TheRedPill18/04/18 10:02 PM
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There are still collectivist countries who emphasize the nuclear family (China just banned rap). The more liberal a country gets, and the more freedom and political power women hold, the more degenerate it gets. The wall is a real phenomenon. But, surprisingly, most girls still hold out for chad even in their 30s. And If they do marry in that time, they will get divorced quicky (Broken goods).
/r/TheRedPill18/04/18 05:41 PM
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I would say the percentage of women that fantasize that would be somewhat high (at least 50 percent). But, you as a man need to develop strong vetting procedures (comes with time experience, reading) for a LTR
/r/TheRedPill18/04/18 05:39 PM
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-Stats prove you correct. However, you see the clear advantage of white men (+33), and clear disadvantage of asian men (-29). Here's a tinder study showing women overly preferring white men in terms of response rate: https://www.inverse.com/article/36379-tinder-black-women-asian-men-racism. I also might add that dating and hookup are different. OK cupid is a dating app, and women would face a stronger societal pressure to date within their race, than merely hooking up. -Yes, but you could have p…
/r/TheRedPill18/04/18 02:24 PM
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Frame, I agree, is vital. But, especially in western countries, women, even in their own race, substantially prefer white men (Especially considering asian or dark skinned indian men). What's more important however, is that the more physical features you lack, the more aggressive you have to be. Women also have a threshold of men they will fuck. If your below that threshold they will not fuck you, no matter how aggressive your pick up is.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/18 01:44 PM
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Its genetic hypergamy, going for a person with more genetic worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 12:56 PM
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Im more worried about the trends. Women gaining more sexual freedom (lack of shaming, more contraceptives, etc), makes them r-selective. Meaning women increasing put more of an emphasis on gentic traits, or high psychopathic traits, than traits of stability or morality. this is bad for society. As for ugly males that get laid, then yes they can. But with the incel crowd you have to know that they're already mentally disturbed and are not like the basedzeus example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 12:05 PM
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Very naive. Face, Height and frame, ethnicity, and robustness are weighed HEAVILY in short term mating.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/18 11:41 AM
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LOL women aren't completely devoid of self control. Although yes they do employ the af/bb strategy, some are better at control than others. Some actually select HARD for compatability/stablelity rather than pure alphaness.
/r/askTRP18/04/18 02:49 AM
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Yes, but you need to triviliaze the her, and the relationship (It meant nothing and you didn't/dont really care, AKA indifference).
/r/askTRP18/04/18 02:48 AM
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Nope. If women selected more for stable men, there would be no single mother problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 12:26 AM
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Why are you looking through my post history creeper. 5-6 (probably 4s LOL), we're talking about hookups, not girls who MIGHT go on a date with them (EMOTIONAL TAMPON). He was talking to what 6 girls before, and they flaked right? Have you ever talked to a girl? You know they're flaky af right? 100% those two girls will eventually flake as well. Also the pics were designed to show that he was rich, had lots of friends, and was into sports. Here's what I am getting at. My profile, I can legit be l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 03:08 PM
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You're pulling out a lot of variables for a single argument of "I'm talking about men in general being able to have casual sex with their looksmatches." Now how do we know whats a 6 compared to whats a 7? We don't, this is decided on how you do in a club environment, or in tinder. Usually I've got a good eye on what's considered attractive. Now, I also want to displace the myth of "different opinions of what's attractive or not" Girls are typically universally attracted to certain physical featu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 01:09 PM
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Not true. If this was the case non of the pill communities would exist. I agree with you that this is possible for guys that are 7 or above, but guys below that experience a substantial drop in attraction from ALL women. Make a tinder of a 6 or below guy on tinder, and he will get hardly any matches. Now increase attractiveness marginally, and you will see a hyberbolic rise in match in the 7-10 range. 5 or below will get 1-2 matches/100 swipes (usually very very unattractive) a 6 will get 1-10 m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 11:55 AM
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IF we're talking about ONS with ugly bland girls, yes its possible for conventionally unattractive males to get ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:37 PM
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Never said impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 07:53 PM
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LOL. Check out memes girls tag other girls in. Height memes, face memes, body memes. Et cetera. Girls know what impresses other girls, they don't have to hide anything. They hide it from naive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:46 PM
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It's because white collar crimes aren't national news, that's covered over and over again. Also showcasing the shooter in many different lights, even sympathetic. These girls definitely need help, but I don't think its that shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:43 PM
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Being hot physically is a higher standard thats placed for hookups. Being comfortable to be around, having a good career, and being stable is more important for long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:37 PM
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Well you have to think about it in multiple ways. Women pay a social price for hookups. The less desirable or lower status the guy is, the more of a social price she pays, both from her peers and from the opposite sex. Girls also have to worry about potential assault, must be able to trust the guy, and have a possible risk for pregnancy. Girls also report to feelings of "being used" after sex, which guys dont usually report. This is for obvious reasons. Also, girls release more pair bonding horm…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:34 PM
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No LOL. Its because women frequently downplay their hookup experiences to spare feelings of inexperienced and naive males
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 10:52 PM
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Are you a girl or a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 07:33 PM
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I think youre attributing way more control to the women then she actually has. If she's hooking up to a guy she barely knows, we know that he must be very physically attractive, high status, and charismatic. We also know that guy probably initiate and had an active roll in the mating procedure (girls rarely approach). "In a report of 152 female undergraduate students, 74% of women had either a few or some regrets from uncommitted sex: 61% had a few regrets, 23% had no regrets, 13% had some regre…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 06:33 PM
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It's not about liking, its about being treated VASTLY different, especially by the opposite sex, depending on your looks level.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 09:23 AM
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Giving helpful advice does not mean telling them they're unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 11:11 PM
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IDK what happened with baby boomer parenting. Either they had NO clue on female nature, or they didn't care enough to tell their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 12:49 AM
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The trajectory is this. Watch disney movies/listen to parents/mainstream dating advice---->Get real world experiences that disprove the utopian Disney/parents view--->Change mindset. OR Watch disney movies---->Never get real world experience to change view--->hold on to disney concept Why do you think most girls are naturally "redpilled" more than guys? Girls, when young, get numerous chances to have experiences whether attractive or not (the threshold for attractiveness is lower with girls, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 12:42 AM
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LOL its about guys that either have the genetics to be attractive or guys that dont and have to work extremely hard. Both receive the same advice-be yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 07:42 AM
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Hows his status, high paying job? If not, then congrats to him, a great outlier that everyone should strive to be. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 10:51 PM
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https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060 Look at this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 10:20 PM
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LOL let's see him, and let's see the quality of the women he pulls
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 10:19 PM
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These are based on real profiles (which has a host of other factors, such as income, career hobbies, bio sections etc) on OkCupid
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:41 PM
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https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/0*C1hAYh2NFpmDNvHs. In this study, Asian men were given a sum rating of -29 across the board of all races of women. White men were given a sum rating +28 across of all races of women. Asian women rated white men 6% higher than they rate asian men. LOL yes, personality matters, but you can't deny these statistics. You have to have a BIG personality to make up for these looks gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 07:56 PM
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https://youtu.be/ZbG05ePWRQE?t=5m18s Stu, the 5'2 guy was made a doctor, world traveler, as well as given many desirable traits. The only way the women would consider dating him was that if the other men were serial killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 07:44 PM
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There is a vast majority and tiny minority. Nobody mentions the percentages. Yes, ,some women don't care if you're a virgin, but that can be only 10.%
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 07:39 PM
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Yup. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/alison-denisco/dating-women-men-whos-taller_b_1527117.html "But a whopping 89 percent of women said the shortest person they would date would still have to be taller than them. Only seven percent would accept someone who was their height, and just four percent would allow for a shorter guy."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 07:18 PM
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2) Dr. Frank conner, psychologist, analyzed surveys which showed that men place physical attractiveness in their top 3 traits in a partner, women place physical attractiveness in the 5,6,7,8 place. When evaluated with behaviour, women are no different than men. https://youtu.be/iOHdZKDldIg?t=27m20s https://pics.me.me/6-least-attractive-27-least-attractive-how-men-rate-women-9666472.png http://i.imgur.com/2MstAzl.gif Women are far harsher rating males then males are rating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 07:13 PM
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LOL such a bad answer. Women judge physical appearance just as harshly, if not harsher, than men for both dating and casual sex. This is proven again and again by studies and statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 06:51 PM
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No, it can be social status as well, or how well your personality dominates other personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 10:16 PM
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It can, I've done this several times, but it has to come from a high status position. If the women perceives you to be lower in status, then no it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 08:58 PM
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Well it really depends. The more a guy is lacking in conventional attractiveness (short, bald, ugly, etc), the more he may need to rely on RP tactics. An unattractive guy cannot have a milketoast personality. RP tactics are GREAT for attracting women that like RP tactics. Look at rappers (lil pump/wayne). But extreme RP men seldom make a relationship last, there needs to be a beta-ness as well, for comfort building. But, I think what's better than an RP personality is an INFLUENTIAL personality-…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 11:34 AM
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RP works with a certain set of women. The more a woman likes RP style tactics, the less she is worth for long-term commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 10:26 AM
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The problem of this is that men value sex far greater than women. Sex is basically seen as a reward for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 01:15 AM
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Yes, I agree, a middle of the road guy can fuck 0-5s, with low inhibition. But like....really? Nobody wants to be that guy lol. the OP in the reply doesn't want that either lol. He wants to be able to fuck girls that he finds attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 12:14 AM
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IDK I do not identify with men that want to sleep with girls below 7s. Like if you're willing to fuck 1s, then okay. Looks are absolutely a form of status. Women know intrinsically that better looking men are treated differently, and are wanted more by other women. Women want to show off their boyfriends to other women. Look at the memes trending on FB. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuA1aidIUAAlycL.jpg Do you really think women are excitingly telling their girlfriends about fucking pajeet the 5'4 …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 11:53 PM
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Dude, the average guy cannot pull this shit off. Im a pretty attractive guy, and its even difficult for me. Like what I'm saying is, that to consistently fuck 7-10, you need to be at least an 8. Maybe a 7 with god like game. Remember, women are disgusted with sleeping with men they're not attracted to. Looks and status are really important, so these guys HAVE status (status might come from looks) Also remember that women DO NOT want to be judged. Sleeping with low status or ugly men, even averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 11:39 PM
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Be an ugly, socially inept, and low inhibition. See where that leads you. Women do not fuck ugly men unless they have status and extreme social acuity. Also, yes its easier to bang ugly chicks, but I would assume your aiming to bang girls your attracted to lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 11:10 PM
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LOL this lifestyle just cant be unlocked. You need a combination of physical attractiveness (mostly genetics), social adeptedness, and low inhibition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:31 PM
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It's a common stereotype that good looking attractive guys are dumb/ or socially inept. How could he be socially inept and still have so many women wanting to fuck him? Attractivene is actually correlated to intelligence. Unless women are sexually attracted to lack of intelligence, their's nothing to indicate that the men that women seek to fuck are dumb/socially inept.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:27 PM
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Yes, but women fucking men they disdain only because they're hot is okay. Sounds super fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:16 PM
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LOL. Women sleep with him, and still want a relationship with him, but knows the guy will probably cheat on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:14 PM
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Your mother wants to beta-fy you. Mothers do not want their sons to be seen as sexual beings for obvious reasons. She wants you to be a good boy and just study, so that you'll take care of her when youre older. This goes into the extreme ends for indian/asian households.
/r/askTRP05/03/18 10:33 PM
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Pre internet im supposing, when girls didn't have access to 10000 different men on their phones.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 10:12 PM
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Yes, but it has almost nothing to do with the work environment. If the frycook was a short balding minority, and the doctor was a white, tall chiseled face guy, guess wh would get laid more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 09:26 PM
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I'm in med school LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 08:25 PM
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Well, if you can pull much more attractive girls with much larger frequency than the doctor, then thats something to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 07:24 PM
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Dude. If the doctor is a short, balding minority, and the frycook is a white tall, chiseled face guy, there really isn't a competition on who's getting laid more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 06:54 PM
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LOL this post isn't about life in general its about who's getting laid more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 06:53 PM
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Other studies: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19130207/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26445346/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3946692/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23742031/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 03:18 AM
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I don't think being better at sex is a worthwilde skill to have. And you can get better at sex with only 1 partner. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5731847/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3752789/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 11:53 PM
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Yes, similar n count partners will be more satisfied than partners with a high difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 11:23 PM
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Women with higher partner counts report higher in instability, depression, mood disorders, etc. There aren't many positive qualities that correlate with higher partner counts. I see a high n counts as I see drug use.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 11:21 PM
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I think shaming language is necessary for the aversion of a destructive activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 01:52 PM
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It could! It's up to women to make it count, not men. If women were disgusted by the idea of a guy not being a virgin, then male n count would matter a whole lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 01:37 PM
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http://s3.amazonaws.com/thf_media/2003/pdf/Bookofcharts.pdf http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0192513X02023003004 I think or marriage as a business investment, and I think it's good to maximize your chances at a long lasting and stable one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 01:28 PM
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"If you are comfortable and secure, you aren't worried about the likelihood of a break up. You enjoy her company and want to spend more time with her. That's a secure POV." Yes, exactly. But I also want to, statistically, reduce my chances of a divorce, which can be statistically maximized by marrying a less promiscuous women. So ill be secure either way, but marrying a less promiscuous women will make me statistically better off. I think we have a fundamental misunerstanding of what insecurity …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 01:15 PM
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No, I could not be worried at all and be content. Just do my own thing. My behavior might change the likelihood of a break up (maybe even negatively if im too complacent), but the break up is more statistically more likely to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 01:02 PM
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Let's use extreme values at first, to see if aversion of N count is for practical, or insecurity reasons. There are many studies which correlate promiscuity with the divorce rate. Not only that, happiness rates and marriage stability rates go down with higher number of n count as well. A n count of higher than 10 indicates a 4x likelihood of divorce than a virgin, or 1 partner count, bride. As for your second argument, YOU can believe that you are the best she had, and be content, but that doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 01:00 PM
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Never once did I use the terms "worried", or "satisfying a woman who's been with other men." I made a statistical argument. My security factor has nothing to with the statistics at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 12:43 PM
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No it really doesn't. Men know that if your a women's first, you have a much better likelihood, both practically and statistically in staying with her long-term. 1/0, vs 1/100. The first statistic is basically an unknown. If you have sex with her, you'll further reduce the chance of her break up. With the second girl, you have a 98 percent chance of it not working out. Men also know that highly promiscuous women also come with a lot of baggage as well from past relationshio. Whether that means e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 12:29 PM
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Do you know how social mores, folkways work? These things aren't illegal, just heavily frowned upon. Like doing heroin.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 12:20 PM
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No, just agreeing. Problem is, the media heavily pushes promiscuity, as it appeals to their primary consumers, other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 12:17 PM
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Insecurity would be when I see something wrong within myself, so I project it on to the other person. I can be the most self-assured person in the world, but I would still prefer a partner with a low n count, than a partner with a 100, for practicality reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 12:14 PM
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I think in order to gain practical stability of the nuclear family, both men and women's promiscuous behaviour should be discouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 12:06 PM
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LOL I'm good looking, so it doesn't really bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 09:18 PM
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True, But I think they're willing to entertain the thought of him joking because of his looks. I don't think they'll grant the same leeway (or not enough leeway to swipe) to an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 08:33 PM
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If this bio was accompanied with an average profile, I do not think that profile would get many swipes. I'll see if I can input this bio into my tinder, and how my response rate changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 08:16 PM
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Even an average guy posting it, its very creepy. And girls don't typically spend that time figuring out the actual meaning of a convoluted bio. They just read it, get a weird vibe, and swipe left.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 08:06 PM
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True. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9BQ-_33RGg&t= You might be interested in this. This guy wrote the red pill, and this is his first public speech. He argues that female mate selection varies from where she is on her ovarian cycle. When she's ovulating, she's looking for more for genetic markers, and at other times, she's looking for feautures of parental involvement. As for fame power money, I think these things will become less and less attractive as women enter the workforce and make thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 07:32 PM
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Well, black pill argues that good genetics, even without status or money (but still a semi-attractive personality) can slay. You see this in night-clubs and tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 07:17 PM
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Well, to eliminate confirmation bias, you can do a mathmatical tally. You can see the match rate of the attractive profile vs unattractive profile. Then you can move further, and see which of the girls you matched are willing to meet up with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 07:14 PM
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I don't think so. The way the it was written was extremely creepy. Imagine if the bio was accompanied by an ugly man. He would never get swiped.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 07:07 PM
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See the sexy son hypothesis on wikipedia. Women want the best genetics for their offspring, and chase good looking men a lot more aggressively than average looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 07:04 PM
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Not true. A crude bio, with an ugly profile photo will, in my opinion, be rarely swiped right. What we can do is control for bio first. As in, use 1 pic, and try all different kinds of bio, and then pick out the worse and best performing one. And then conduct the experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 06:49 PM
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Good as in a bio that showcases positive traits. Like being a doctor, being a traveler, showing skills, as well as personality. A bad bio is short and crude. "Hookups only" Each bio will be accomponied by the opposite picture. So with the bad bio ill use a model, and with the good bio ill use an average guy. And then compare results.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 06:36 PM
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A bad bio could be "Hook ups only, swipe right if good looking" A good bio could just about myself and made up accomplishments, such as being a doctor, world travler, etc. I think data shows hat other sites, which are more relationship ortineted (E-harmony, ok cupid) also have a huge emphasis on looks, but not as dramatic as tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 05:59 PM
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Yes, appearance is more important for a lot of men and women. Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 04:11 PM
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Yes, we both agree, physical appearance is very important for both men and women, and you get treated differently because of it. Great!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 04:09 PM
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Again, do it yourself. But there was also experiments where the attractive profile had very negative qualities in the bio, and the unattractive profile had very positive qualities. The attractive profile still had a lot more matches, and a much higher response rate. Women were inclined to give out their numbers, and keep the convo going.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 04:06 PM
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You're moving the goal post, that wasn't your argument. Your argument was that this was confirmation bias, my argument that if you do the experiment yourself, you will produce very similar results.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 04:01 PM
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Literally do it your self. It'll take 1 hour. You'll unlock a whole new way you see women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 03:58 PM
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Okay I'll use several examples. 1) Existence of the red/black pill. If women's emphasis on looks was established and well known, there would be no pill sphere. Tinder experiments would be common knowledge, the chad stereotype would be common knowledge. 2) Dr. Frank conner, psychologist, analyzed surveys which showed that men place physical attractiveness in their top 3 traits in a partner, women place physical attractiveness in the 5,6,7,8 place. When evaluated with behaviour, women are no diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 03:54 PM
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It is common knowledge that men put a heavy emphasis on looks. It is not common knowledge that women place a heavy emphasis (if not drastically more so) on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 03:32 PM
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LOL these experiments aren't hard to do. Create 2 profiles, one male thats very good looking, one male that's not good looking, and give them the exact same bio. You would be AMAZED at the difference in the level of matches, and the enthusiasm of the matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 03:25 PM
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great!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 06:07 PM
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Obviously not, but I never hear in-depth ways to increase looks. There's so many ways to add +2 to your looks, which will go much of a long way than any generic advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 06:07 PM
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What we do know is that being physical attractive is immenseley beneficial. Tinder, bars, clubs, all first and foremost highlight the importance of physical attraction. I hang out with a lot of women, and I know to the extent of how you look matters. Being in a relationship is different, and thats where relationship management skills come in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 06:02 PM
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Solution? Society needs to be upfront of how sexual dynamics work. It's astonishing how many men are in the dark about how attraction works, and social hierarchy which are largely based on looks. When these dynamics get revealed, bitterness results.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 04:15 PM
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The response literally just said how good looking people are granted permissibility for bad behaviour. "Also, I don't hate ugly guys, I brush them off as a form of 'soft no', but there's no resentment on my part."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 04:11 PM
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Canada. I think relatively, compared to the world, the US isn't particularly puritanical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 06:04 PM
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I would argue the US isn't puritanical, especially the younger generation. I would say that a high n count, that is achieved through failed relationship, where the person legitimately had tried to make each relationship (but couldn't because of extreme hurdles) is okay. A high n count which is achieved through flings, hookups, short relationships, cheating etc, is extremely damaging to the well being of both women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 09:03 AM
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LOL dispute the statistic not make ad hominem please.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 09:46 AM
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https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1482/46/1482460019660.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 08:35 PM
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It depends on what stage you are at life. Learning to fix cars doesn't make me a better person, but I know how to fix cars. Ultimately, women decide what behaviours they reward and what behaviours they punish.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 10:44 PM
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Yes, because the dating market is has shifted completely towards women, and everyone can see that. It brings out bad behaviour, and will naturally get a pushback from men. You see it now with popular subs like black people twitter, and women will increasingly get more defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 12:27 PM
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These studies all use random sampling, there is no indication that these studies are using certain cohorts of women. Regardless, we can assume these women are college educated, at the very least, and there are a significant amount of them https://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Dark-Triad-Personality.pdf This is a study where women themselves rated DT traits as significantly more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 12:21 PM
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128 has a very small standard of error. Research is done by random samples to preserve generalizability to the population. There is no evidence to indicate this sample was biased in any sort of way (aside from location bias of Britain, and the girls being in college). DT traits of course only work on a subset of women. These are by definition girls who are attracted to DT men. Some women like tall men, some don't. The argument is not whether dark triad trait work on ALL women, but rather that da…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 12:03 PM
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https://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Dark-Triad-Personality.pdf "128 women rated created (male) characters designed to capture high DT facets of personality or a control personality. Physicality was held constant. Women rated the high DT character as significantly more attractive. Moreover, this greater attractiveness was not explained by correlated perceptions of Big 5 traits. These findings are considered in light of mating strategies, the evolutionary ‘arms race’ and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 09:48 AM
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Depends on what you want, and at what stage you are in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 09:20 AM
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TRP advocates to aspire to traits that make you attractive, not traits that are anti-social. Extraversion is postively correlated with attractiveness. Again, this isn't an individual thing, this is a group thing. Groups will lean towards incentivized behaviours. If no external pressure exist, these behaviors will continue. But TRP is dying out. These ideas are now mainstream and are common knowledge. TRP existed as a push back to the just be nice and women are wonderful ideals of the 70s that pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 08:45 AM
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Yes, my point is people do behaviours that are incentivized. If we want to get rid of TRP, then it is up to both men and women to stigmatize these behaviours, and not reward them. These behaviors would not exist if women did not RESPOND to these behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 08:00 AM
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That is not to mention that "better" is entirely subjective, but in my world (which is a very normal world), being a better person involves being giving, thoughtful, community-oriented, gracious, self-aware and devoted (to whatever it may be, family, their goals, etc.). Aside from maybe devotion (to a futile goal), TRP is not that type of place that exemplifies those values." These values have no correlation for short-term mating. Studies have suggested that on average, those who exhibit the dar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 07:37 AM
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That is not to mention that "better" is entirely subjective, but in my world (which is a very normal world), being a better person involves being giving, thoughtful, community-oriented, gracious, self-aware and devoted (to whatever it may be, family, their goals, etc.). Aside from maybe devotion (to a futile goal), TRP is not that type of place that exemplifies those values." These values have no correlation for short-term mating. Studies have suggested that on average, those who exhibit the dar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 07:37 AM
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Seduction is what subreddit for your first sentence. The redpill is a pushback to the emerging dating market, and a relative change in female behavior. The just be nice and have a good job mindset of the 70s and 80s, that parents have passed down to their kids does not prepare them on modern dating, as such dozens of man flocked to TRP in order to find out what they were doing wrong. As women gained more power and choice the RP advised peackocking and methods to showcase alphaness. As women cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 04:12 AM
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Yes, agreeableness is negatively correlated. Confrontational behavior is preferred. Now this is only for short term mating, long term mating the results could be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 06:21 PM
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There are no studies linking stoicism with attractiveness. In fact, risk taking and low inhibition is far more predicative of mating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 03:19 PM
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Only inexperienced men. Men usually start out with the process of meeting--->friendship--->Dating. Young men don't realize going from meeting to dating actually works a lot better, and usually prolonging friendships deteriates chances of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 11:29 AM
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Literally the opposite of me. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 02:57 AM
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I'm actually the opposite of a feminist. I treat women as harshly as men, and it's a good balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 02:47 AM
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By moral I mean -To not lie -To be honest as possible -To not manipulate -To trait others with benevolence -ETC. As in to live an altruistic life. This is the conventional way morality is interpreted in social science. If you have a new definition, please enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 02:12 AM
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Although they might make a small impression, most study show aggressiveness, manipulation, social acuity, dark triad traits, far outweigh moral attributes in short term mating success for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 02:04 AM
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Let's redefine as altruistic traits. -To not lie -To be honest as possible -To not manipulate -To trait others with benevolence -ETC. Again, these things don't correlate with increase attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 01:56 AM
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There's no correlation between promiscuity/lackthereof and the rates of withholding sex. The most common reason for withholding sex is spite, which is much more common in unstable relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 05:25 PM
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I defined my first comment, traits such as niceness, pleasentness, integrity, sympathy, empathy as "moral traits". This was in response to the question prompt "What would it mean for attraction to be “moral” in the first place?" You construed the traits I listed as feminine. I said that these traits do not necessarily make a person more feminine. I said these traits off the cuff, and I think one would define these traits as "moral." A more formal definition could be any trait which promotes the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 05:02 PM
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I don't really have a say in the matter of what women find attractive. Although I don't think moral traits are exclusively feminine (charitability, integrity, pleasantness does not make an individual more feminine). I also think women should be congruent in what they say they find attractive. Usually, women's advice encourage the further feminization of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 04:41 PM
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LTRing promiscuous women is a terrible idea. Statistically, they are significantly more likely to initiate divorce, cause relationship instablitiy, and cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 03:58 PM
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According to studies: There's a negative correlation between attractiveness and agreebleblenss. Positive correlation between attractiveness and dark triad traits (narcissism, psychopathy) A negative correlation between attractiveness and IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 03:14 PM
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All my female friends have equated sex, especially their first sex partner, with love. These girls are college aged, and were pretty conservative about their sexuality. I also know tons of older women who are in the dating scene. They do not equate sex with love at all, in fact its quite the opposite. The more experience you have, the less you will equate sex with love. Each instance becomes less special, and you stop equating the two together. You lower your standard about the feelings needed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 03:05 PM
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This is a standard men have, and should seek women with the same standard. I think all women initially have that standard, but lose it the more casual encounters they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:03 PM
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Yes, pro-social and extraversion is correlated with mating success. But not so much as "moral" behavior. Empathy might be the only moral characteristic that might correlate with mating success. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4873083/ Look at this study. Extraversion is positively correlated, agreeableness is significantly negatively correlated. https://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Dark-Triad-Personality.pdf "It has been suggested that the Dark Triad (DT) per…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:49 PM
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Guys aren't really that manipulative. We aren't and scheming behind your back. Guys act nice because thats what they've been TAUGHT to do, until they learn by trial and error that its awful at getting laid, and they change stratagies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 12:26 PM
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A positive correlation between percieved attractiveness and niceness, pleasentness, integrity, sympathy, empathy, charitablness, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 11:44 AM
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Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 08:05 AM
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physical attractiveness is by definition attractive. It is the forefront of both men and women. It's just that men can have other factors to make up for it like money or prestige, where women main appeal comes from looks and youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 07:18 AM
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Youre missing the second half, more than they ADMIT or STATE. Men will put physical attractiveness at the forefront of what they look in a partner, but women put it after other things. When you actually evaluate mating choices, the important of physical attractiveness is about the same for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:47 AM
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Read the title:Women care about men's looks much more than they STATE or ADMIT, research says
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 10:18 PM
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Go to the doctor and see if your growth plates are closed, chances are they will be, but there might be a chance they wont. If they're not, buy an estrogen inhibitor (such as nolvadex) ASAP, as well a growth hormone, or mk677, which is considerably cheaper. You might be able to grow an inch or two. Also buy one or two inch shoe lifts.
/r/askTRP11/01/18 06:44 AM
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2 things: 1) Has your face gotten worse or better since losing weight? Usually faces get better when leaner, but sometimes thats not the case. 2)How well do you fill out your shirts compared to when you were heavier? Appearing muscular in shirts is what draws attention, especially when you're tall.
/r/askTRP07/01/18 04:12 PM
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Numbers game dude. https://tnimage.taiwannews.com.tw/photos/shares/59bf972d7e32b.PNG Look at these couple. I can show you thousands of examples where the man has a significantly lower smv than the girl. But you need to keep your ego at the door, and be ready for countless rejections.
/r/askTRP23/11/17 08:50 AM
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Okay, for people who have low SMV, they should run numbers game. Check out my previous post on what factors are needed for high SMV. Let's say your success rate is 10 percent. then, if you approach let's say 20 women a day, at least 2 of them will say yes. Let's say you do that from a month, you'll have 60 potential partners, and at least 1-2 of them will be quality. Thus, for everyone with low smv (low success rate in cold approaching) should just simply approach more.
/r/askTRP23/11/17 02:19 AM
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Dude, if people ask questions on how to be chad, or how to be the top 1 percent males, im gonna give them realistic answers. If people ask how to be happy, or how to enjoy life, than my answers will be different. If people ask about how to stay in a relationship, then my answers will once again be different. I believe 100% in red pill teachings, but these teachings should be applied realistically. My answers are based on statistics, and general trends in the dating community, nothing else.
/r/askTRP23/11/17 01:52 AM
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One way to beat the system is to make more money. Being a millionaire or billionaire can buy you anything. Looks, women, houses, respect. Everything. The other way is to have chad genes. These are being white, tall, good looking, muscular, naturally social, and alpha voice. You can access whether you have chad genes depending on your ratio of girls that swipe right on tinder.
/r/askTRP22/11/17 06:43 AM
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IDK if its that hard to make a good story out of it, after all, sex is just sex. Anyways, hollywood does not depict reality. Usually male leads, no matter how attractive, have to have a journey to win over the girl. Sex usually comes from a showcase of personality. We all know thats not true, attractive men just pump and dump multiple girls without committment. So would you agree with my original arguement that hollywood might mislead men into believing personality/character traits are more heav…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 10:25 PM
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Knocked Up, Just Go with It, The 40 Year Old Virgin, Life as We Know It, she's out of my league, easy A, juno, pretty woman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 10:15 PM
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No, I think women will make sacrifices for men she's willing to fuck, but these sacrifices will become smaller the more emancipation she gets, and the more high value men she fucks, as in her standards will get higher (until she's 34, like a lot of my older female friends are). The thing is, the only thing I see increasing rapidly is the genetic component rather than the success component or even personality. As in, women are discriminating more on looks rather than anything else. It's mindblowi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 01:15 AM
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I've has casual sex like 10 times. No, I don't agree. I don't think it's a threshold. Yes, if you're attractive enough, a girl will sleep with you. But the more attractive you are, the less personality you need. So if a girl considers you moderately attractive, she may date you and maybe have sex with you on the 4rth date. If a girl thinks you're insanely hot, she'll take you home 10 minutes after meeting you. Or fuck you right in the club (many times where this has happened) Movies never show t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 01:04 AM
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Well I think in the past women were somewhat forced into marrying men they did not find attractive for security, or cultural reasons. I think it'll be really interesting to see what happens when women are given complete emancipation, such as what we're seeing with western women. I'm in college in canada, and looks are insanely important for hooking up. Women, once they've had many high value men (in genetics and/or in status), would rather stay alone than be with a low value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 12:55 AM
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Yea, that's true. I Think it's a little mistaken in that regard. Looks are very powerful, and becoming increasingly more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 12:45 AM
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Knocked Up, Just Go with It, The 40 Year Old Virgin, Life as We Know It, she's out of my league, easy A, juno, pretty woman, you've got male. I picked sci-fi/zombie movies because they're more targeted to males. What you also need to realize is that even though some movies MAY have attractive men, they're looks are not the focal point, but their personality. They always have to WIN OVER the girl, which does not depict what happens in real life. The movies put an emphasis on personality rather th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 12:42 AM
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I'm showcasing movies that try to depict real life. Comedies that depict life usually have a bluepill message. When have you ever seen a movie, depicting real life, starring a chad having harems of women because of his looks? No, it's movies like The Girl Next Door, Adventureland, Zombieland, Kick-ass. Almost always a guy (not that physically attractive) obsessed with one girl, that he can never get, but then eventually gets because of his personality. Your arguement is, that since movies stars …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 12:14 AM
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Well we both agree looks matter, which is the main point im getting at. Some guys don't get it because they dont get the experience to witness it first hand, for a multitude of reasons (Went to all boys school, didn't attend parties, were nerds, sheltered), and actually end up believing these platitudes. If you look at a lot of men today, I would say a lot of them are still bluepilled in how they think girls act. I think this'll fade fast quick as the importance of looks is becoming common knowl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 11:17 PM
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Thats the problem right there. Boys are comforted. Boys, when young, are not as socially savvy as girls, and don't pick up on passive/indirect messages. They are also much more likely to find mechanisms to preserve their egos, thus they tend to BELIEVE these lies. And we also have the bluepilled movies reinforcing the nerd getting the girl in the end as well. The incel problem would not exist if the mother just told her son that Sally only fucks good looking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 11:02 PM
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How old are you? You're describing the dating scene of the 90's, not the present. Tinder, bumble, social media has made it where the most good looking guys can hook up with a push of a button simply based on how they look. Also, I think you're being too generous to women. Women are often harsher in judging men's looks than you would expect. It's a pretty steep curb. A 7/10 and a 10/10's matches are astronomically different. Below 7, and you barely get anything. Looks is PREDOMINANTLY a random va…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:47 PM
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I'll tell you why guys fall into this trap: It's because guys are egotistical and naive, especially when they're young. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLV7oS90Hsk Look at this. All girls say, "looks do matter, but personality can make up for it." Most guys, because of bluepilled parenting, think they're already good looking, or that the standards of being good looking are not high. Even if they aren't good looking, they still think their personality can make up for it. Thus, they overemphasize …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:34 PM
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Yes, but there's too much variability, and doesn't allow much of vertical movement. Thats the problem, and also the beauty of it. A 3/10 man will never get the amount of lays as an 8. There isn't a route available. All im saying is, that basing relationship more and more on a RANDOM variable, rather than a merit variable, creates problems. Again, there are winners and losers in this system. But the loser's can't really do anything else but check out of the dating system, as we're seeing now with…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:16 PM
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Look at interviews with any girl, and ask them what they want in a guy. Or what makes a guy attractive. NONE of them will say looks. These are movies that are not based on real life. Look at movies based on real life, or that try to depict real life, like superbad. It almost always involves the nerd getting the girl or winning her over because of his personality. Men have 2 deal breakers, height and face. Yes, I believe everyone who's not facially attractive should get plastic surgery to become …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:07 PM
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LOL you're missing the point. It's that being physically attractive, which is basically based on genetics, is completely out of your control. Like money, being born into great genetics is increasingly becoming more and more importnant than any character traits (morality, judgement, compassion). Secondly, NO-ONE admits this. This is why it's called the "Red pill" because its not common knowledge because society completely lies to men. Hollywood lies to you, your parents lie to you, nobody wants t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 09:48 PM
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You should note online dating is DOMINATED by looks. The more casual the dating app is, the more looks heavy it is. My advice is to max out your looks first, and then make sure you have high status pics.
/r/askTRP20/11/17 04:34 PM
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Beta orbitors allow women to get their emotional needs met by people of the opposite gender. Women don't have any attraction to beta orbitors, and in most cases, these beta oribors have low SMV and have a pipedream that they'll eventually hook up with these girls. Friendships are different, and are usually based on pairing where both people have similar SMV. Whenever there's a significant SMV difference, you'll either get a pump and dump, or a beta orbitor situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 04:32 PM
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Get a 25 percent tca peel from amazon. Learn how to self apply it and proper after care. Keep doing a peel once every 2 months. In 6 months you'll have perfect skin.
/r/askTRP20/11/17 04:28 PM
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It's not hard if you lower your standards, as in someone 2 or more SMV points below you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 05:14 AM
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Usually, when young, women aren't as prone to aspects such as hypergamy and abundance. They usually become "redpilled" at around 16, when they learn the power of the pussy. And this reaches a peak during university years. So 2 things can happen now. When she learns how much power she has, she can either dump her bf and ride the CC, or stay loyal.
/r/askTRP11/11/17 04:51 AM
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BTW, Confidence comes from positive reinforcement. As in, you do activity A, and it generates good reactions. Thus you will do activity A more confidently next time. If you do activity A, and it generates bad reactions, you are less likely to do activity A, and if you do it again, you will be less confident.
/r/askTRP11/11/17 04:40 AM
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I know its an unpopular opinion, but look into plastic surgery. Control the things you can, and appearance is something you can control, and will have big benefits.
/r/askTRP11/11/17 04:30 AM
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LOL well maybe its because im in canada but everyone is skinny here!
/r/askTRP07/11/17 09:38 AM
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I never said it's hard to get jacked. I said if a person has genetics that are not what's considered attractive in the western world, just becoming more muscular will not automatically get him to the top 20% of males.
/r/askTRP05/11/17 09:59 PM
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May I ask how tall you are?
/r/askTRP05/11/17 01:15 AM
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Depends on the area. Generally, 6 feet and over is good. 5'10 is the cut-off point, and every inch below 5'10, you begin getting penalized. If I would put a rating on it, it would be. 6'1-6'3=10. 5'11-6=9 5'10=8 5'8-5'9=7 5'7-5'8=6 5'5-5'6=5
/r/askTRP04/11/17 11:38 PM
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Most girls don't give a shit about how big a guy is. Being low bodyfat (Should have abs), with an additional 15-20lb (Should fill out t-shirt) of muscle is the optimum.
/r/askTRP04/11/17 11:32 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Vpx5NBvDA&t=4s This video does a great job explaining the components.
/r/askTRP04/11/17 11:17 PM
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It's important to not delude yourself and actually look at statistical evidence, and hard facts, of what attracts women.
/r/askTRP04/11/17 11:16 PM
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Delusional. It depends on your starting off point, a guy who lifts but has shitty genetics will not automatically get to the 20%, at all.
/r/askTRP04/11/17 10:00 PM
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-Be white -Be tall -Have a handsome face -Have a great body -Have great style/grooming -Be social and successful/ and have money.
/r/askTRP04/11/17 09:56 PM
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The sexual market place is not purely bases on meritocracy. Genetic variation creates value gaps that cannot be overcome with hard-work alone. A good looking tall man (often white), is automatically assigned a high status position by women, and an ugly short man (often a minority) is automatically assigned a low position. This is why it is next to impossible for the latter male to ever achieve a ONS; he has to increase status continuously and flawlessly through his actions, to overcome the initi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 10:46 AM
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Well it may be because I am in college, but looks play a HUGE role in casual sex and relationship. Frequently, the criteria of hooking up is either height, face, or social status. My friends have hooked up with guys simply because of their height. A friend who has the personality of a cardboard has had threesomes simply because he's aesthetic. None of my friends have ever hooked up with a guy because he's "nice" or "has a great personality". College is a lookist bubble, and to deny that is to de…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:33 PM
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Great post. Positive reinforcement is crucial for the development of confidence and risk taking. The more you are challenged for your actions, the less likely you will do these actions in the future. This is why you seldom see a unattractive males take social risks, and why they tend to be more conservative when approaching the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:07 PM
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My first statement fully captures my views: women gaining financial stability, freedom from sexual repercussions (slut-shaming), the backing of a continuing feminized society, and exposure to more men (tinder and other apps), it forces them to be pickier. Women are practicing greater lookism, as there independence and emancipation increase. Personality traits (niceness, motivated, pleasant, funny etc) is slowly taking a backseat to genetics, and more dominant behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 09:50 PM
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I was assuming they have average personality. As in, for a given personality (and same achievement level), a 10/10 will do a lot better on the dating market. So not including extremes (complete shut-ins, social outcasts), the 10/10 (with an average personality) will do much better in the dating market than a 4/10 (with an average personality). If including the negative extremes of personality, such as people who are mentally ill, or mentally disturbed, then yes, both their success rate will be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 09:16 PM
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You're making several variables as low as possible to offset the looks variable, and even then, I still think the 10/10 would do better. Thus, by your argument, the 10/10 would have to be a low functioning, low esteem, and socially handicapped person to be on the same level as the average 4/10. It's very rare that 10/10 people have will have this mindset, as they are given positive reinforcement and attention throughout their lives. Attractive people tend to be statistically more optimistic, soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:06 PM
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He should just get plastic surgery then eh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:34 PM
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I think incels main gripe is the huge gap between being a good looking male, and being an ugly male. The experience of a 4/10 male going through college, and a 10/10 male, given the exact same personality, is very different. Let's say an Incel is an ugly short man studying in a western university. He should definitely try to become as sexually appealing as possible, and try to get as socially adept as possible. The uncomfortable truth is, however, that sexual mating success (basically getting la…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:04 PM
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Agree, but leadership power is different from sexual strategy, the latter of which relies far more on biological factors. These incels aren't complaining that they can't get elected to high societal positions, they're complaining because they can't get laid, usually due to them being either physically uncompetitive with other men (physically unattractive), and/or them being socially inept.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:39 PM
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I think it's a trend we are seeing more and more. With women gaining financial stability, freedom from sexual repercussions (slut-shaming), the backing of a continuing feminized society, and exposure to more men (tinder and other apps), it forces them to be more pickier. Women, especially young women, are now going after what they really care about, good-looking, fun guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:13 PM
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I disagree. Look at tinder. Vast majority of guys hardly get matches (guys less than 7s). Guys around 7 do get matches, but their messages tactics usually have to be conservative, and the options for a one night stand is rare. They passed the looks threshold, but their needs to be something more (chemistry, accomplishments etc) Guys who are 10/10 however, can say whatever they want, however crude and fucked up, and the girl will not be deterred. Their chances for a ONS are high, from the same gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:55 PM
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I think it's the vast differences in behaviour men experience due to genetic differences. a 4/10 male will get a completely different interaction than a 10/10 male. What's interesting is that below a 7, most guys get treated the same, but the gap from 7 to a 10 is insane. Basically the women acting celibate and uninterested, to a women being completely over you. Women go through this bias too, but I think it's less drastic, and more gradual.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:40 PM
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Good point. This is usually said by women who are older (mid 30s and onwards) where the sexual market tends to shift in men's favour.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:13 PM
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Men typically lack the options to branch swing, but those with top genetics, usually do. Men are also less hypergamous then women. They are less likely to try and "trade-up" to other women, this is probably because of the provider/protector instinct. Also, you have to keep in mind that with the advent of tinder and other dating apps, mixed with modern hook-up culture, the standards of women (especially when it comes to genetics) are constantly going up. A woman who has fucked a 10/10 man will no…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:01 PM
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The irony of your post is that high intelligence is inversely correlated with mating success, and Machiavellian traits are positively correlated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 12:48 PM
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Problem is many men don't have the options to go for their ideal, while women do (at least more so then men).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 12:38 PM
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