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It’s about Genes. Nothing else.

splunx · 2023-09-03T05:26:37+00:00

In my opinion, women are now heavily selecting for genes rather than anything else's....

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September 3, 2023

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Title	It’s about Genes. Nothing else.
Author	splunx
Upvotes	12
Comments	76
Date	September 3, 2023 5:26 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/AllPillDebate
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It's bizarre people believe this. The distance between "natural" human mating selection in a hunter gatherer type society and the modern world is enormous.

The modern world doesn’t change biology

Pre modern/hunter gatherer societies, whether they enforced monogamy or patriarchy or not, were really not kind to women even if in some cases women did have more sexual freedom, a notion that is highly debatable given how often murders and violence are centered around sex in primitive societies.

Patriarchy was created for men by men because you all know your destructive and possessive nature.

We were all too busy ensuring group survival, food and building to be worrying about mating all the time. Men today have too many vices (gaming, porn etc) to be as productive today, so you have more idle time to worry about bullshit like girls don’t like you because of your wrist girth or some silly notion.

It was in the collective group interest that the males of the group protected and help provide for the community.

It may very well be that womens overall welfare and choice increased in monogamous societies.

Sure perhaps. If the society men bulldozed on us ensured individual land and female ‘property’ that needed protecting from other men, it was likely in women’s best interest to go with the status quo. But again, this doesn’t change biology.

[–]FitDomPoet 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

An unfortunate truth about nature that people do not want to talk about is that reproduction does not require consent. Men that go to war no longer get spoils. Society has essentially castrated a select portion of men and the puppet masters know these people need to be addicted to porn and other distractions or else Rome will burn, or simply collapse without their efforts in the labor force. If all the ugly garbage men quit their jobs, No pun intended, we would find out real fast how much we need them in our lives than we ever needed millionaire sports athletes.

Our system thrives on the protection of inequality under the guise of egalitarian liberalism indoctrinated upon the masses through all things 'equality'... But it's all a ruse.

"Marx in the streets, JP Morgan in the sheets."

There was a good meme movement called No pussy, No work. I believe it touches upon the subconscious of why men are dropping out of society. Thanks for coming to my TED talk. 😂

[–]ImOverIt06 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you check out fast/short and slow/long strategy it makes more sense.

Patriarchal structures tend toward the latter.

To put it as briefly as possible and you can extrapolate the rest -

Fast/short = high resource availability, unstable environment, males have an incentive to reproduce quickly and often and a low incentive to spend time fathering a child. This is a very rapey environment relatively or at least courtship is very concise and superficial for the sole purpose of reproducing based on gene selection. A place right now like Barbados is a good example where men basically impregnate women and bounce. They aren't even really expected to financially support the child let alone father it, though they might. The woman's family and her so all the raising and then that child goes on to do similar.

High resource availability makes it a lot easier. It also allows more pathological behavior and female promiscuity.

Patriarchial societies tend to emerge as resource scarcity increases. Now group work becomes more important which means people need to adapt to cooperation. Accountability, reputation, these things become much more important. A father has incentive to stay with his children to reach them and a mother has more incentive to rely on the father, so monogamy is encouraged and can be enforced by marriage to ensure community stability.

Female promiscuity goes down, rape goes down, pathological behaviors get weeded out.

The losers in Patriarchy are the ugly women because they can't find men. Beautiful women tend not to care. Ugly women resent and hate men. They are the original femcels. All the "witchy, theosophical, psychic tarot reading" original feminist suffragettes. These are the women outliers who decided the patriarchy was evil and set out to destroy it in the mid 18th century.

Makes sense when you see the effect now. Wicca and occultism is at an all time high here in the west and the ugliest most undesirable women screetch the loudest about down with the patriarchy.

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The modern world doesn’t change biology

The pill and abortion quite literally are modifying biological outcomes/behaviours, the massively complex media apparatus enculturating preferences, the huge amount of free time spent grooming built on industrial surplus, modern social networks and travel, and so on are all heavily modifying human behaviour. Preferences and behaviours in the modern world, regardless of the degree of female choice (unhindered female choice itself being "unnatural"), do not directly reflect a "state of nature".

If you want the closest thing to your early ancestors romantic experiences, then imagine getting pregnant (probably multiple times and for the rest of your life unless you're lucky enough to reach "old" age) at 15 with the equivalent of your high school boyfriend. Hope you made good choices at 15. You could try leaving him but this might or might not result in him murdering you or your new partner depending on the cultural context of the particular tribe. Now flip a coin to see if you die in childbirth or maybe if a neighboring tribe raids and rapes you.

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That’s right. But think about the millenias before patriarchy was set up; we lived in commune villages with matrilineal lines and the woman was worshipped for bringing life. Women chose which men they wanted to sleep at anytime; some men were more lucky to be chosen often over others and hence why only 40% of the males genetics were passed on.

So as society takes away the artificial rules of patriarchy that has had women literally dependent on being married to live and function, we’re allowed to be free in our true nature and choose who we want to sleep and have children with.

It’s going back to those theories that 60% of men simply won’t get to procreate. It could mean 60-80% manage to have sex, but not all will be able to have children from it).

It sucks for men who have become accustomed to the privileges patriarchal marriages gave the majority of them.

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with matrilineal lines

Wrong.

Women chose which men they wanted to sleep at anytime

Wrong.

some men were more lucky to be chosen often over others and hence why only 40% of the males genetics were passed on.

Wrong.

The genealogical record shows we are polygynous - one man, many women.

This is why twice as many women reproduced as men at given time in our history. In some extreme periods, it was as lopsided as only 20% of men successfully reproducing.

There are 2 million men in modern China who carry the genes of Qing Emperor Yi and 16 million men who carry the genes of Ghengis Khan.

If we returned to nature, you wouldn’t be part of some horseshit hippie earth mother commune with just you and a couple of Chads, you’d be part of some psychotic warlord’s harem with one hundred other women.

[–]hydro9889 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Bruh these whores literally live in some kind of fantasy where women are worshipped, fuck chads, and all the non chads raised their children lol.

In primitive societies, women were seen as much of a resource as any other kind of resource, and that resource was meant for breeding. Polygamy existed as in high status men got as many wives as they could but they could not get every single woman because that would inevitably piss off the vast majority of non high status non chad men, into rebelling and overthrowing the top dog of the tribe. For this reason the leader of every tribe would organize himself and other men into a warband to go and raid other tribes, in order to take THEIR women as concubines and other resources like food and material goods.

If women want to return to a "natural" state in where they are seen as nothing more than an object of breeding to be taken as war bridges and concubines and raped with impunity during conflict simply because they happen to belong to the "other tribe", then we can return back to that lol.

[–]Chan_KC 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bruh these whores literally live in some kind of fantasy where women are worshipped, fuck chads, and all the non chads raised their children lol.

It wasn’t a fantasy, women were revered thousands of years BC. Plenty of female gods and deity figurines that have been found.

And stop lowering the tone of the convo. Calling us whores achieves nothing.

In primitive societies, women were seen as much of a resource as any other kind of resource, and that resource was meant for breeding.

Wrong. We were revered for being able to give life, not just viewed as a resource.

Polygamy existed as in high status men got as many wives as they could but they could not get every single woman because that would inevitably piss off the vast majority of non high status non chad men, into rebelling and overthrowing the top dog of the tribe. For this reason the leader of every tribe would organize himself and other men into a warband to go and raid other tribes, in order to take THEIR women as concubines and other resources like food and material goods.

In ancient matriarchal societies, women were the leaders. It was more like the hottest, strongest men were shared. The least successful men probably had to go elsewhere and use force, yes.

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