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Feeling negative emotions isn't the issue, the ones who lash out are the issue. It would be a bigger problem for men if they were often physically afraid of a woman who gets upset or lashes out but they typically aren't. Angry women are laughed at while angry men are often feared. I've had a strange man literally yell at me at my place of work because I told him " sorry I'm married". He was at least double my weight, over a foot taller and i was totally alone. I don't care how many guys took a n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:33 PM
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This i can agree with, you never know if it works until you try. I know one guy who wears nail polish regularly and the girls who like it REALLY like it. Men should feel freer to try different styles and products like women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:10 AM
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The argument is that no, most people don't do this behavior in committed relationships. It might seem that way when you're single and dating around but that's because people with that behavior are single more often than the ones who aren't. The types who are more committed pop up in the dating pool less frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:38 AM
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People tend to hang out with people who are like them so nothing shocking here. I fuck up plenty and make mistakes too, i just don't need to drag exes into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:36 AM
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Everyone has sexual needs but most people don't use others to get them met, they just wait until they find something new even if it takes months. I don't need to use someone from my past and risk getting their hopes up for more just to get my urges met. But some of us think of our exes as people with feelings and not just fuck bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:55 AM
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Just because I have people in my past who could be options doesn't mean I keep them in mind as that. I would never ever call up and ex and use them for comfort if my current relationship starts struggling, that's just not something I need or want to do ever. Some people have a desperate need to always have someone around for validation and others don't, keeping options isn't a flex it's a sign of low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:32 AM
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This is just not true. The people who don't keep backups are just more likely to stay in the LTRs longer than the ones who do. If you desire a true relationship with someone who isn't like this learn how to spot people with avoidant relationship attachment and avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:16 AM
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This is ridiculous. Why would the onus be on the person who doesn't want to change the status of the relationship to end things? Anyone is free to terminate any relationship at the point they decide to, there is no obligation to do it a this or that right or wrong time. If you want to give someone blanket advice for these situations it should be never ever "pour your heart out" to a friend. That is the worst possible way to try to advance a relationship to a new level and it will almost never wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:09 PM
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No, entitlement only gets labeled based on your behavior or the things you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:59 PM
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Someone suffering in silence is the opposite of entitled, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:53 PM
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Or. Women couldn't speak out then because of the restrictions. If you have to rely on men for your existence and comfort maybe you just weren't allowed to speak out about their unhappiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:57 PM
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Right and endless responses to the OP are explaining how everything seems that way because of social media and algorithms. But that still doesn't answer the question about went being allowed to attend college or have jobs wild mean liking men more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:54 PM
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Why would women being allowed to attend college mean they should like men more now? Like men allowed us to attend college so we should be more grateful and never question their behavior? Can you explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:47 PM
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Pretty much every woman here is saying men are more likeable now overall. But saying women go to college more often so they should never have complaints about their dealings with men is sorta weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:44 PM
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I'm asking what you saw a man hating on that time period specifically? What were the women doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:33 PM
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I'm asking why you are labeling that as an emotional burden?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:32 PM
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How is listening to someone talk about their day an emotional burden?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:17 PM
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Women attending college means they hate men? I can't figure out the correlation in those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:13 PM
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Unprovoked misandry? Women disliking men for zero reason? Or do you mean a movement to restrict the rights of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:10 PM
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Women are claiming to be abused when they ask random men for money and don't get it? Yeah, they would be equally as delusional when they do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:47 PM
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I'm really trying hard here to make sense of your "less rights" comment. How are men having less rights and being violently subjugated by women just because the woman doesn't want to clean up after you all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:39 PM
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The problem always comes down to lack of sex drive for women. Most women lack that catalyst to propel them into wanting to pursue a relationship early on. If we don't feel sexualyv driven attraction until we feel it from the man wanting a more egalitarian society doesn't change that. Men think we want performance but really we just don't feel anything sexual unless he does it says something sexual. It doesn't have to be overt but if there's no flirt we just never feel that way about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:17 PM
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These sources still include the older generations though where this wast the case as often. So all the 60 year olds where the women were often expected to give up their careers are still included.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:11 PM
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Men have always done that though, none of this is new. They just renamed it is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:01 PM
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Much of what you say here is true, but none of that means the shit that gets posted here about women tend to be true. If people made posts here about how dating is so much harder since covid because people are less social now and the internet is ruining everything most of us could agree. Yet we get crazy assc rants claiming all sorts of random conspiracy theories about women instead. Participating in the crazy social media conspiracy shit puts many of yall on the same level as boomers on Faceboo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:59 AM
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Do you think populating and happy are the same thing or even related?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:49 AM
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Treated like shit specifically how? Most men here just fear a woman could treat him like shit which is rather different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:48 AM
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You will never get all of the people to agree with you all of the time. Find the people you work well with and stop worrying about how the rest operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:48 AM
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Occupy Wallstreet scared the shit out of the people in power so the promotion of gender wars and race wars are the consequence. They couldn't let the people actually agree on who the real enemy was.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:46 AM
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How can you say these things about women when you participate in this place? Something about pots and kettles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:42 AM
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Are you still using the same app? Preference shifts over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:41 PM
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Agreed. Where I live everyone works. I know one women who expected what OP says and she's always been dumped after a few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:40 AM
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Men who get all their information about women from social media complaining that women get too much of something from social media are funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:35 AM
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Because watching that get misread then referred to as "scientific research" day after day is mildly infuriating, at least this is just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:04 PM
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Honestly I would take this over a 20 year old blog post that they didn't even read.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:43 PM
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Yes because that is just total nonsense. Police are well aware that women aren't all angels, they arrest women regularly and they do not automatically just believe whatever women say. They literally can't do anything to someone for walking around the block because that's not illegal they can only warm them away. Id totally watch or read about this stabbing incident of you have a link or reference to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:44 AM
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Yes, you typically have to have evidence for police to take it stalking seriously. Otherwise they just warn the other person to leave you alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:43 AM
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True men can get drugged and robbed. Most don't fear that but maybe they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:40 AM
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If you lie in order to get someone to consent to sex who otherwise wouldn't the use of the statement consensual sex is questionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:01 PM
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There is no right or wrong, it just works out sometimes and other times it fizzles. Relationships that advance typically include escalation. Texting more, making plans for dates, communication of sexual interest. Relationships that fizzle the conversation feels awkward and forced, texting starts feeling sorta stressful, it never advances to in person dates, a lack of flirting or any sexual interaction/ tension etc. It's not like i think "this guy failed", on my end it just feels like something t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:39 PM
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The question was about what are women jealous of. Having stalkers who don't scare the ever lovin shit out of you can't be one? It's not a competition, each gender has pluses and minuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:57 AM
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You want to get your hopes up that someone is actually interested then find out later it was all a lie and they were just using you? Why would that be better?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:02 PM
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But again my stalkers were double my weight and strenth and one was arrested breaking into a woman's house watching her sleep with a knife in his pocket. All stalkers are annoying but ones who can over power you easily are extra scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:23 PM
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In dating, mostly just the benefit of not being worried about always being so much physically weaker. I work out 10 times more than my husband but he's still naturally much stronger than I am. Not getting roofied or having stalkers would be nice too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:50 PM
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What default terms set by law entitle someone to premarital assets?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:40 AM
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It's not really any different for women of wealth who want one to protect their assets. People don't like to lose money and people also don't like when their partner seems messages that they are distrustful. This isn't gendered. Prenups should protect both people not just one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:53 PM
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Who has to do anything? The OP was asking what the difference in how behaviors are received is, so my response was in the context of that question. I never stated a man should or does have to do anything at all because that's not what the conversation is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:47 PM
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After seeing the things the non-confident guys say here I think maybe yall are more similar than people like to pretend. One just says what the other is afraid to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:17 PM
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Generally doesn't mean all. If yall want to fight over the 15 to 20 prevent who experience attraction more like men typically do have at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:16 PM
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We don't want men to approach so we don't have to, we literally don't feel anything unless there is some flirt. Why would i approach someone i don't feel anything from? Men want to fuck women by looking at them, so the problems for women are the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:32 AM
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Men look at women and feel attraction, women generally only feel attraction if they're is some flirt. If you think that means women prefer assholes that's a wild leap.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:30 AM
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Do you get that all advice isn't for all people? If you don't think something applies to you then you just move on and try something else. The above is generally for people who don't hardly leave their homes who online dating isn't working for. And even if you fall into that catagory you don't have to want to take the advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:28 AM
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I would agree with the idea that changing your personality is harder, but if you've been trying the apps for some time and have no skill at it growing some social skills isn't exactly bad advice. It could only help your online profiles as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:27 AM
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The advice isn't for attractive people though. Apps work well for people who people who can rely on looks alone, most people don't have that luxury. Those people either need to develop other skills or become really good at online marketing themselves. People who aren't exceptionally attractive want to attract a few people, not all of them. They aren't typically looking for the same superficial people you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:00 AM
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The result is almost identical, but the behavior is totally different. We know the difference when ya post about it online. Nobody cares why you don't approach but you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:47 AM
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A man who says he avoids asking strange women out in public because he'd rather not make any of them uncomfortable will probably be either well received or neutral to most women. While a man who rants online about how he doesn't feel safe approaching women because he can't control how they will react is going to generally be seen as a whiny shite. A man who crosses the street so because he doesn't want to stress out the woman who's walking alone is thoughtful but the one who does it because he's…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:00 AM
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Using someone for sex is not the same as love and men who aren't completely sex obsessed know it. Men who aren't completely sex obsessed do not get scammed by a pretty face because they pay attention to her behavior and what she says. If a person wants to use another person for sex them complaining that the other person wants to use them for something else is just funny. User doesn't want to be used. Ok...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:48 PM
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Ah yes that every well known, very scientific experiment that came to very scientific results. It's so wild to find out what men who don't personally know any women think women live like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:41 PM
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Men settle and mature but women do not? Are you talking about all women or just instagram models and reality tv stars?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:36 PM
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I think it would be nice if superficial people all just made their own country and moved there. Whether they are successful superficial people or the ones who just wallow in the lack of success it would be nice if they would just leave quietly and not take a bunch of innocent people with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:15 PM
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They think blog posts are "scientific evidence".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:42 PM
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If a person uses standards as their exit strategy they would just use another excuse if that one wasn't available. It's best to avoid dating people who feel trapped in relationships. Like most things, the middle ground is where you want to find partners since people with no standards are equally problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:51 AM
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I followered a local one for a month to see an it was the same 5 guys posted over and over. Mostly men who scam women for money. A handful that got zero response and a handful that got responses like "nah i went to HS with him, he's legit. " There really wasnt any trash talk or anything like what the stories I heard here. Men should start ones to help them identify scammers too. That's not at all what OP is suggesting though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:25 AM
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I have received a few personal messages that say yes but i don't think it was ever the OP of the post. But anyone here saying they post "scientific research" cracks me up. I've been around here a long time and have yet to see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:08 PM
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You have evidence, is love to see it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:11 AM
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Do you think that women can't be chronically lonely? Ive known some really pretty women who were very lonely, it's not just something men experience. People wanting to use your body doesn't typically make you feel un-alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:17 PM
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Do they care? It seems to me they just want any excuse that makes it out that it's women's fault they are alone. Can't be anything I am doing wrong, women are all actually gay now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:22 PM
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I do say that I feel lucky as a woman that I don't feel such a strong need for a relationship as a man does, I think that is a huge part of this issue men feel. Relationships just aren't worth the endless hours of digging through dating profiles, chatting men up just to find out he's trash and you have to start all over. Much better just to see if one happens to come along.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:21 PM
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This is the new line they started pushing a few weeks ago If women aren't turned on just by looking at a man they are gay, so most women are gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:10 PM
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So you are mad at men for not punishing women enough over their general response to that question? Should men stop pursuing women because some would rather see a bear in the woods than a strange man?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:43 PM
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So if not job loss what should happen to women who feel safer spending time alone in the woods with a bear in the same woods than a strange man?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:13 PM
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Accountable lol. Means nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:30 PM
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There is more than one sub on reddit that "call women out". Plus like 30 radio shows and 200 podcasts but yeah not common at all....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:21 PM
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You think people should lose their jobs if their would rather be in the woods with a wild animal? Lots of people like time with animals more than people, that means they shouldn't have jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:19 PM
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This entire sub seems to exist to "call women out" so I'm not sure if the point you're trying to make is real. Women agreeing with you is what you view as accountability?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:17 PM
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Don't POS people almost always play victim though? I see that behavior from men here daily too. How is people thinking you are an ass accountability? It doesn't seem to bother any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:54 PM
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What would being held accountable for choosing to be alone in the woods with a bear over a strange man look like. I want to know what you specifically mean by accountability here. Do you think the response from men on that topic had been overall supportive? People disagreeing with you isn't accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:52 PM
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I would like more information on what you think being held accountable looks like. I see this mentioned all the time here but nobody ever says what they mean by it. How do you see men being held accountable? What do you think it would look like if women were held accountable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:25 PM
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Lawyers can't just quit without legal reason though and the reason they are giving doesn't look great for the guy. It will be interesting to learn more as the case progresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:29 AM
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She should take a hit for the greater good even though his lawyer fired him for making false statements? I'm not sure this case is the good fight you are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:18 AM
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Being annoyed that other people want more social interaction than you personally do doesn't sound very patient. Or do you mean people think you appear patient?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:49 AM
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Statistically cold approaching had a very high likely of negative outcome. Its really only a game that work well for people who don't give many shits.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:42 AM
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Yes we all know apps are great for hookups with random men. If women like that more they'd be having a great time with it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:37 AM
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Because when they feel that pain of rejection you can feel it and it doesn't feel good. Even if your reason is good you can feel their disappointment and it sucks. I'm not even arguing that men shouldn't approach, they still should if they want to. I'm only explaining why some women will dislike it no matter what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:44 PM
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Im not sure that is true for most women. It's honestly really easy to tell the player guy to bugger off. Having to turn down the sweety guy who seems respectful is harder. I would rank the worst to turn down as the harassers then the actual nice guys and players are the easiest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:34 PM
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Right, so it's not great.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:39 PM
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I wish there were loads of women out there looking for pegging relationships with men. The men want sexual relationships with many women, why not them? How dare the men who desire sex not offer it to them? Sure they aren't that man's cup of tea exactly but he's a slut so how dare he choose who his own partners are. Men are so hypocritical because they sleep around so easily but also want consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:03 PM
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Different posts get different engagement, wow so confusing. If you actually read most of those posts there is a whole lot of thought and nuance into most comments. I don't really see any simply throwing shit. Yeah life would be easier for you if all women had the exact same opinion on every subject regardless of context but turns out they are people, doesn't seem to be anything women need to apologize for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:57 PM
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Do you have an example of a post where this is happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:53 PM
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Why would they need to defend clientele of sex workers in order to not be hypocrites? If you defend labor unions are you a hypocrite if you don't also speak in support of management? What if they defend all sex workers regardless of gender? Would that be ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:31 PM
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Do you have evidence that the same women are saying these things or are you just really mad all women don't believe the exact same things?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:09 PM
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If the woman doesn't like being approached she doesn't like being approached, it's not like it's made better by who the person approaching is. Caring about what others think about you isn't the same as caring about others though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:23 PM
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Most women who complain about being approached complain about guys like that even more because they tend to be pushier. Those guys just don't give a shit if some random woman thinks hes a bag of dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:11 PM
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I just imagine all the potential court cases "but your honor she was wearing the shirt!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:42 PM
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Oooh i can do that for you - once in a blue moon when i am both single and ovulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:27 PM
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Something I think is funny is the only men this pushes to not approach are ones who are already most uncomfortable about approaching, and it's all because their uncomfortable female counterparts complained. It's almost as if being socially awkward has downsides regardless of your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:02 PM
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Who's agency are you talking about. I can't figure out what you are arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:48 AM
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Yeah no, didn't say that. Very few people choose abortion because they think "fuckem". Usually they think things like if i let these cells grow into a person im not capable of taking care of them the way they would deserve to be taken care of so i will prevent that from happening. Any parent can quit being an active parent if the child is being cared for by someone else. There is just a small window of time some woman get the additional option to prevent a child from even happening so there will…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:21 PM
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Yes we all know that denying abortion is often used as a way to punish a woman for having sex. That's why people often say "my abortion is a justified abortion, it's not like other people" when their contraception fails. She probably typically isn't considering needs of a fetus because a fetus never comes to exist in most cases involving abortion as it typically takes place before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:28 PM
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You can't legally give up someone else's rights. Just because some people think that doesn't make it a valid idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:48 PM
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Pretty much all conversations about that do. Many people, including many doctors don't agree that that potential life trumps the mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:47 PM
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I'm not accusing you of believing it's a good idea, but there really aren't many of any laws that exist because of fairness. Laws will often cover fairness of opportunity but that's it. The law sees this as fair because anyone who gets pregnant regardless of gender has the same rights according to that state. Child support payments are based on calculators that don't factor gender. Any parent who has a child that isn't legally adopted by someone else is responsible for that child financially bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:17 PM
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It's funny how yall completely disregard the needs and rights of the person being brought into this situation without choice. Any discussion about this that doesn't consider the child is fucking pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:07 PM
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If the men who are going this way need every single women to either agree with them or stay silent in order to stop them from jumping in with people who openly vote to make their lives harder there's likely no help anyway. It's also not like all issues are created equally. Supporting women's right to Healthcare doesn't require men to do anything except not stop them. Supporting lonely men's rights to have dates and access to sex requires women to date them, which gets weird fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:39 AM
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Except aren't the pro choice crowd usually also supportive of more Healthcare and mental Healthcare funding and help? It's not like abortion is the only thing they care about, generally they want all healthcare to be easy to access for everyone. Yes it's easy to make sexually frustrated young men angrier but that doesn't make the people who aren't manipulating them the bad guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:12 AM
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Why should his feelings be obvious to her? If he can't even determine whether he can handle just being friends why should she be responsible for doing it for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:47 PM
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Is this a regional thing? The men i know who date the most wear nail polish and heart shaped glasses. Or is that ultra masculine since they are so secure in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:22 PM
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Completely agree. If you only learn how to spot and avoid dating avoidant people you'll still be in way better shape for having a healthier relationship. A person who fleas at any sign of stress is impossible to have a true partnership with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:22 AM
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The aps don't have to hurt the women to simply not work well for them. All i can tell by a looking at an online profile is if there is a bit of potential i will find the guy actually attractive IRL. If i only feel attraction after interacting with a person it's really draining to try to figure that out online. I can talk to the guy for weeks feel potential then go out in person and feel nothing. The guy was attractive enough, ticked the paper boxes but there was no chemistry. The more i try to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:24 PM
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This seems a bit like you're discussing attachment theory. Yes, i would agree that an anxiously attached person would make a better partner than an avoidant one. However neither are the optimal choice. The best choice is the person in the middle who is securely attached, they will make a more stable partner long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:37 PM
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Well the financial elite wasn't too make sure we stay mad at each other instead of those who actually fuck up or lives beyond repair. So here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:16 PM
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I wouldn't want to have an LTR with anyone who is only partly into it so that sounds great.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:04 PM
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Im starting to wonder how many women's profiles are actually just men playing this game. The ratio of men to actual women might be way lower than it even looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:08 AM
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I don't have to think I'm better than someone to think we wouldn't make a good match. This idea that women are only not interested because they think you aren't good enough is so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 10:59 AM
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I think this is the case more so for men than women, women don't tend to be as visually stimulated so it doesn't play as big of a role for many of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:59 AM
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If it's so great why don't more women like it? Wouldn't there be more women then men by double if it worked so awesome for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:21 AM
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So no matter what women do the women are bad, but not misogynistic. No not at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:16 AM
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Comfort is so much of it. If your dead silent during sex don't expect your partner to ever hit the point wild and adventurous with you. The more verbal reassurance that you're finding it really hot the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:15 AM
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Sex acts aren't things that are performed on you, it's the combo of energy the two people have together. If you are just showing up you're not going to get wild kinky sex unless the person you're with is full wild kinky person on their own. Experimentation doesn't make people wild, wild people are wild even with little experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:08 AM
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That isn't context though, it's just garbage pseudo science based on a blog post from a dating app 20 fucking years ago. Yall have turned a blog post into a virtual cult of misinformation about an entire gender being your enemy in dating. You derail conversations because you don't understand context, not to add context.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:04 AM
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Women tend to avoid attractive men who collect women like they are pokemon cards and call them players so the women are bad? Huh? Are they bad because they avoid these types or are the women bad because they thought the guy was attractive at first? Seems like no matter who the women talk to its negative unless it is you. It does come off a bit misogynistic, maybe not the worst case but definitely a sort of revenge fantasy. How dare those women be attracted to attractive men, let me write a post …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:56 AM
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You want people to acknowledge that only 20 percent of men get access to women although actual dating statistics say otherwise. Please acknowledge our totally made up false reality. Yes getting dates as a man is harder. Pretty much everyone acknowledges that, but this conversation you are commenting on never said otherwise. Do you get that conversations have context? If you just butt into every conversation to rant that men have a harder time finding dates that is frankly sorta weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:47 PM
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But in this context its more like a person with a low paying job complaining about not being able to afford the house they want and people saying pick a better job then if you want a better possibility of someday owning a house like that. Some people in that position may be able to just go after a new job and get it, some would have to put in more effort and/or schooling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:55 PM
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Yes, my point is that using that one word is causing the issue here. Most often when people say shit like this they use the word "find" not "pick". Find implies a search would likely have to take place. The argument is stupid if you are just talking about the extremely small minority who actually use the word "pick".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:58 AM
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Is there a link to how religious their are, this sounds like religious people issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:33 AM
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X is just manufactured political rage bait
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:28 AM
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You don't need to have an abundance of options laying at you feet to go actively search our the type of person you will actually like. The lazier you are in your search for a partner the more likely you are to meet people who aren't a good fit for yourself. If you want to rely solely on online dating you either better be really good at creating a profile or ok dating people who are less than what you hope for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:50 PM
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Why would you expect random women to have great advice to improve your life when you can't figure out that issue yourself? What makes them so much more qualified to fix your dating problems than you are? It sounds like they care but just have no advice or anything to say that will make you feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:33 PM
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A person who talks to me about what he wants, likes and enjoys without worry for what i will think. Someone who shares his opinions on social, political, lifestyle issues again without worrying what i will think. Someone who is interested in getting to know me instead of imposing me because he doesn't worry if i don't like him, he just moves on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:53 AM
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How about when it does become unethical or abusive it puts the woman in a very difficult position to leave? That actually goes both ways. When he wants out he also feels financially trapped in the situation as he likely can't afford to support 2 households separately on his own. I support the right of people to search out such relationships but i think they should be talked out of it if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:50 AM
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The more i feel like a guy is putting effort into how he treats me to impress me the more wary i get. I want to get to know a guy and see if there is a connection point there, not be performed to our catered to. So i guess what he does for me or to me plays a huge role in my attraction, the harder he tries to impress me the less likely i am to be attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:30 AM
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You know women have that experience too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:02 AM
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Pretty sure i was supposed to say back in the day but autocorrect really went to town with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:04 PM
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I'm the pay splitting bills was just an option, now if a guy brings it up the odds that he follows misogynistic content seems too high. Women who used to prefer splitting bills are now wary of men who want to split bills. Dating has become a dumpster fire
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:43 PM
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I heard that in my husbands voice hahahah
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:25 PM
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The point is that behind both of their perceptions of what is causing the issue are their feelings. Neither one of their issues are being caused exactly by the thing they think, it just seems that way to them. If he thinks not having sex often enough is the issue so she lays there still and lets him get off on her more while clearly feeling resentful about it that's really unlikely to solve problem. It's not pointless and unproductive to talk about it, it's pointless and unproductive to think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:59 PM
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My guess is he would find it easy to access cheap sex at first then realize why women don't prioritize relationships based on sex the way men do rather quickly. It's too bad this can't happen because it would make people more empathetic with each other. Dating sucks for almost everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:42 AM
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The point of dating is to chat with people and see if there is a match, not to try to force a match with every person who gives you any attention. If you do that it's not the women forcing you to, that's just your desperation. It's a shame women don't like online dating more if it's so easy for them to find good partners there. Dating sucks for everyone right now because a lot of people regardless of gender are fucking miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:34 AM
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How is the "burden placed on men" exactly? If the potential relationship didn't work out for either of them isn't that equal? The only reason men who would prefer to not pick up the slack do is because they feel some extra drive to do so. It could be sexual hormones, or a pressure to keep up socially but the woman isn't making you do more if she's lazy. You are choosing to do more instead of walking away from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:40 PM
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Maybe those women think their personal preferences apply to all people. Why would you expect some random woman to have amazing advice or speak perfectly? What if that particular one is just really dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:49 AM
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It's typically only an issue when those women are chatting with a guy who has the same issue. If one person is a great communicator with clear goals that's usually enough. Doormat/doormat relationships are next to impossible to launch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:06 AM
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What are the alternatives? You can twist yourself into knots doing things you dislike a lot to cater to someone who you don't have goals in common with. Or you can try to make people who want things you don't change. Both of those are infinitely harder than moving on to other prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:57 AM
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There are plenty of people who don't really put on false personas well, mostly ND people likely. If you prefer those sorts search them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:16 PM
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Right so back to my original question, explain the men who will fuck your body when they hate that part of it? How it that humanizing? Of that party of the cost is the most important part to me why is then poking the meat sack pay with their penis supposed to make me feel great when they hate the rest of me?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 12:18 PM
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But if you don't actually like the person inside the body how does saying that make sense. Or do you mean the body just has to be warm and functioning?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 12:03 PM
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It's great if they also like me as a person. It's dehumanizing if they just want me as a living sex doll and don't actually like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:21 AM
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But for all the men who just want a body, any body how is that hunanizing to the women? If she can be replaced with any other warm body and he doesn't like her personality, how is that validating to her? She's literally as valuable as a warm sex doll. Not humanizing You're just trying to make your own personal desire sound more noble.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:11 AM
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Having men lust after you who wouldn't like one word that comes out of your mouth isn't humanizing, it's almost like sexual attraction doesn't have much to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:54 AM
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One of the first needs they prescribe women in menopause is antidepressants and the men here use antidepressant prescriptions to women as evidence of how sad they are. Sad is years of insomnia, mood swings and night sweats without meds. Women now can be in relationships if they want or avoid them. Life might not be perfect now but at least they get a few options instead of one assigned path they can never leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:35 AM
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You want people in abusive situations to have a very hard time leaving? When no fault divorce was stated the female suicide rate plumetted. But why should anyone regardless of gender be trapped for life if they are miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:09 AM
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It doesn't need to which is the brilliance of right now, today if your marriage sucks it's pretty easy to leave. In the past leaving was extremely hard or near impossible which was the major difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:03 AM
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There are plenty of women out there who enjoy simple dates like movie nights or thrift shopping dates. If you want those types of dates to be enough, look for those women. Like there are many men who live boating and boat related vacations, those are my nightmare so i avoid dating men like that. I don't get being upset that all women aren't a great for for you, if course they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:31 PM
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The grass grows where you water it, if you don't spend time doing relationship things then expect your relationship to dry out and slowly die. If the only really fond memories i have are from years ago then that's not going to be enough. I can have love for you but that's not enough to attach my life to you forever if you're not into relationship things anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:37 PM
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You can't leave a shitty relationship if you can't support yourself and your children. The options were often stay married or be homeless and lose your kids. So it was misery or worse misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:43 AM
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Trapping people for life in marriages that made them miserable wasnt equitable to though. There is a reason old women tell young ones to never rely on a man financially and have their own jobs for the freedom. If one person is trapped in a situation that the other wants that's not equity just because they are both physically there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:41 AM
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What percentage of marriages are single income? Do you think that is the norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:03 AM
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Sometimes you can feel more alone surrounded by people who don't really like you than you do actuality just being on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:26 PM
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I'd honestly rather take the dork who had the glow up but has gotten over the nostalgia of it and is ready to find something serious. The person who has no other options often doesn't know themselves well enough to be a good partner. If a person is really hard up for dates they can often deny their own wants and desires to the point that it makes them a problem. I do not desire to be catered to, I want to find someone who has similar life goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:56 PM
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I only experience sexual attraction after interacting with the guy, it doesn't just happen just by looking at him. No emotional connection has to be made though, so that's not demi. It's just what makes apps hard. I can only tell by a profile that sexual attraction would be possible, not that it will happen. You're trying way too hard to put women into a box.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:52 PM
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Yup, they tend to have slightly different issues in dating and relationships but overall many of the most common issues aren't gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:23 PM
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25 percent or more of adults have avoidant attachment which makes them prone to feeling stressed out in a relationship. If you're not like them that's ok, it's better for you to not be like that. Seeking someone you click with is a great plan really. If you're no longer in school just waiting to bump into someone doesn't really work anymore. Go seek your click.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:52 PM
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I'm talking about guys i know who are actually interested in women but still won't bother texting them back. Mostly because they fear rejection or relationships take more effort than video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:15 PM
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So then they are honest and day this accusation was devistating to them and they may have trouble getting over it and trusting you as a partner in the futurec that's fine then. Add long as them hurting by it is ok with you then carry on. Id personally prefer to know of my husband felt this way but that's because of like to know where my relationship is really at, it wouldn't be great for him though if he wanted things to no be rocky.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:13 PM
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But if it's just for you and telling your partner you are worried they cheated will hurt them why do that part? Why not just appease your worries all on your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:11 PM
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None of the options are good here. Worry your partner cheated even though there is no sign but do nothing and worry forever. Tell your partner you think it's possible they cheated and request they complete a dna test for you Complete the dna test on your own and keep your worries to yourself that would hurt your partners feelings. The best bet is to only have babies with someone you actually trust but if you trust nobody and still want babies then your choices get harder
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:37 PM
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Why would he not want custody of his kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:14 PM
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He could remove those doubts on his own though without her involvement or the need to make her feel accused. Why throw the whole relationship into question over something you can just verify on your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:12 PM
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Where is that called body shaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:53 AM
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None of this shit is stuff that can be consistent though. Every single topic you listed shifts with context of a given situation. It's not inconsistent to dislike aggressive violence but appreciate violence when it's used for defense. How is it inconsistent to like strong people who aren't threatening? Aren't there a while bunch of reasons being strong would be great that don't include being threatening? If someone says confidence is attractive that doesn't mean men need to be confident, it just…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:04 PM
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Yes life would be immensely easier socially if all people liked the exact same things and there were clear instructions to deal with others. If life were a video game where learning the right button combo made people want to interact with you it would be better for many. Getting mad at women because they are people who have varying opinions and don't come with clear instructions is a choice, but it says more about you than it does women. The best bet is to stop trying to figure out what to mold …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:34 PM
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It sure seems to cause about 90 percent of the drama around here. Women tend to dislike it because they can't tell if they will find the guy attractive IRL without interacting with him more and it's just making men more angry that "women have it so easy"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:20 PM
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Because women will never have the same visual sex drive men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:35 AM
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People just weren't made for online dating, especially swipe apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:34 AM
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Women who can't talk to strangers generally don't travel alone because it's not safe for them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:17 AM
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But that makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:11 AM
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I thought this post was about going out with friends, not getting into night clubs. Who is making friends at night clubs? Making friends anywhere takes real effort. If you want to make friends you have to start talking to people and then do it many many times before a friendship develops.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:57 PM
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Yup. Friendships don't just appear. I think they say it takes 50 to 100 interactions with a person for a friendship to form. That's a lot of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:04 PM
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By average are you talking about the women you follow on Instagram? The only women who get invited places are women who also put a lot of effort into developing deeper friendships and inviting others out often too. Socializing takes effort and the women who don't put in the effort aren't being invited anywhere more than your average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:00 PM
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But it's typically the men complaining, so worse for who?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:42 AM
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They already don't, what are you talking about? Many men can barely return a text.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:56 AM
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Women experience sexual excitement and arousal all the time with average men. This idea that you have no hope of average is just crazy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:41 PM
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Yall are so far gone giving up on relationships actually makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:05 PM
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Just because they are less aroused by looks doesn't mean looks don't factor at all. What is this obsession with everything being either or. Looks aren't the primary reason a woman orgasms doesn't mean an actually ugly guy can't turn a woman off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:54 PM
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Also not what i said. Women tend to get off more on feeling desired than lookingat other people. This is why reading romance books is more popular with women than porn is. I'm not sure what effort you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:37 PM
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By how much? Would love to see the actual research but this gives no info, it could be like 2 percent more likely. Do you have the actual studies? I'm not paying for it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:35 PM
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The men around here always know so much more about being a woman than women do, they shouldn't have any issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:32 PM
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This comment actually helps me understand male logic better. Men get more aroused if the woman is more attractive so they assume women are the same. Women are more likely to get aroused when they feel attractive than when they see something attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:33 PM
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Please explain how outdated theories about wolf packs scientifically applies to human behavior? Id love to see the actual science behind this. If anything the use of baddie makes more sense than this bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:30 PM
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If i don't cook for my husband enough it means i don't respect him and gave negative beliefs about men? I pay the majority of the bills so he can spend more of his income on his hobbies so it seems like some sort of trade off to me but it still doesn't feel connected to respect. Do I need to lower myself to servant in order to be respectful of a person with man parts?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:16 PM
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It is oftenn what you describe here but it can also be used as a manipulation tactic by some people. Not everyone's motives are pure just because yours are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:59 PM
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Like how 80/20 had become 95/5 confidence had become only exceptional level counts. Clearly men who aren't near perfect should never even try to date because they have zero chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:45 AM
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A lot of people think being a doormat is polite while it's actually covert manipulation. If you're "being polite" in a performative way to get what you want out if someone that's doormat shit. If you choose what you'll say next based on trying to guess what will get the response you want out of the other person that's doormat shit. If you pretend you agree or don't have an opinion when that's not true it isn't polite, that's just more doormat shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:40 AM
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Yes, wealthy dumb asses with more bravado than brains can still attract some people, but they turn off way more people than they attract. They just put themselves in front of more people and get more exposure. It's hard to attract people who never even see you. I'm not sure if count most of the world laughing at you as being on the top though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:35 AM
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Being a doormat is the lack of confidence tho. So if I say don't lack confidence you just respond with. Confidence isn't the lack of lacking confidence... my dood.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:40 AM
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If there was only one way to be attractive it would be easy as fuck and you would all just have one thing to shoot for. But life aint easy like that and there a hundreds of ways to be attractive and hundreds of ways to kill attraction. Confidence building attraction only works if people can actually see it, if all they are seeing is neurotic guy they are going to read you as that. The more positive attraction qualities you have the easier attracting people will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:36 AM
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Your doing the thing, playing word games and setting nonsensical parameters in order to feel like you won something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:27 AM
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This is why being so entrenched in online narratives is unhealthy. Wanting someone confident doesn't mean that person has to light up a room, impress everyone they meet or lead all decisions. They don't need to be alpha Chad giant cockman. It means they want someone who has their own opinions and expresses them without terror of being judged... a guy who makes decisions about most of what goes on in his life without calling his parents...a guy who isn't afraid to try something new sometimes... a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:57 AM
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Are you asking why are some women manipulative and also instigators? The answer is because they are humans. Humans come in many varieties of shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:48 AM
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But the question just said bear in the woods you're in, not agressive grizzly or hungry polar bear. You're just twisting it to be something it wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:19 PM
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That's why many men also picked the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:32 AM
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Yeah! Why don't they give great advice like the red pill to pretend to be someone you're not! What if he's gotten jacked, bought new clothing etc and still doesn't get anything? No advice works for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:06 AM
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I think this might be a case of you get what you click on, I have never clicked on such content so never see it. It might look like it's all over to you because that is what you are being led to believe. They know you will engage more if they keep you agitated, happy people are less likely to doom scroll or make purchases. Of course some women have crazy standards, of course if their voices are amplified it will look like it's everywhere but its not even amplification anymore its more often stra…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:16 PM
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Maybe your only experience with the word is people who misuse the word online, I am glad that has not been my experience. I have seen a number of people IRL who were once obsessed with needing constant validation from the other gender move on to figuring out their own desires and finding better relationships because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:49 PM
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If the only goal of your relationship is sex why would you bother being married in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:10 PM
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If you have time to cheat on your spouse you have time to connect online with a therapist once a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:36 PM
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Imagine living in a world where you could do more than one thing a week that's good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:11 PM
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Lots of people who attend therapy learn skills that help them in future relationships even if the one they are currently in is too far gone to be saved. Even if all they learn is how to set some boundaries or argue more effectively that can be life changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:24 PM
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But it's not sexist radicalization to not behave like a monkey trying constantly in impress the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:12 AM
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On it's own that's what decentering means though. There are plenty of people out there decentering for their own mental health who aren't part of extremist communities. Those groups are just the ones yapping the loudest about everything, they don't own it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:04 PM
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They have no power or influence over him so he says yet the majority of his energy is going into attracting them, pretending not to be too interested and replacing them. SUUUURE. That isn't decentering women in general that is just not giving one single one too much power over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:56 PM
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Exactly how much focus on dating should someone have in order to not be sexist? What should it be more important than?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:45 PM
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Y'all really can't understand why people would want to spend time with people who are fun to spend time with? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:40 PM
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But even the nicer side of the manosphere you are describing here is about centering women. You are doing all of those things with the hopes it ends with attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:36 PM
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Most of the time that I reject someone it's about me and what i personally have going on at that time, why would it be sexism?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:30 PM
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Just because something is pretty normal doesn't mean it's good for you. If you crave lots of external validation and are always worried about what others think of you it's not generally good for your own mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:26 PM
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So men are upset now because women now want to consent to be treated that way and it's confusing to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:17 PM
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Wouldn't their additional power have been more that women's roles in society were severely limited?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:13 PM
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Women have been "the prize" for a long time though. If anything that pressure is a little less than it used to be. What has changed is social media showing everyone you have ever known whether or not you are keeping up with your peers on every level.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:03 PM
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Why do i seem angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:15 PM
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It's just so hard to gauge quickly and take a lot of time interacting with someone to see what level their interest is at. My coworker dated a guy half her age for a while but he wouldn't let her meet his family and only a few friends. For many that's not enough interest to count. Dating can be exhausting because their is a lot of truth to the good ones tending to being taken. There are a lot of great men out there but finding them on dating apps isn't easy like the men here always claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:00 PM
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In your proposal above the women again take much more of the burden. You know how society treats women who have abortions yet you want to force them into it anyway. Again most of the consequences falls on women alone like my previous comment to you stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:51 AM
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I'm saying weeding through the single people willing to date you isn't always so freaking easy. Having a lot of messages in your inbox isn't easy street unless they are all from people who actually are interested in you and not just willing to pretend to be to fuck you. I didn't ever say all men were any such way, but enough are that it invalidates your claim that having men message you on dating apps means that the men actually like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:48 AM
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But you're also ignoring the fact that many men will date women they don't really like for access to sex. If men only dated women they actually liked everything would be easier for women. I watched my father date as an older man and the way he treated his gf was terrible. She was so sweet but he treated her like dirt because he didn't really find her attractive, she was just the best he could get. He looked 20 years older than he actually was and treated the women who gave him chances like they …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:30 AM
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What is it called when you want 100 percent of the consequences of making children to fall on women alone with men having zero responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:19 AM
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She can abort, IF... She lives in place where that's legal She finds out she's pregnant within the abortion availability window She has the money, transportation ability to access it She has a family in which it would be safe to make that choice She isn't religious and afraid of what that wild so to her soul It's not a of abortions is free and easy to access for many people. In many places in the US even where it is legal it can be really difficult to access because the nearest dr for that is ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:17 AM
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Wanting to fuck someone so much that you ignore all the stuff about them that bothers you isn't really a win. Women crave the fuck out of passion but what they typically get is more like porn. Being desired sexually isn't the same as being desired sexually plus as a true partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:49 AM
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Hatred makes people easier to control, if you want this to stop you gotta target the people at the top pushing the narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:28 AM
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Paper abortion should come with a mandatory face tattoo so your choice follows you for life like the person stuck raising your child alone has.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:57 AM
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Except what you are calling the conclusion wasn't the conclusion so this argument makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:20 AM
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But she is using it as an example not actually advocating for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:08 PM
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She isn't really making an actual case for that though. If you have to take the context of the entire conversation away to make the statements appear horrific then your point sorta falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:05 PM
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Idk. Your explanation of why society hates feminine men doesn't seem any more nuanced than theirs. Aren't they both oversimplifications? If your argument is that society doesn't hate women because they are allowed to act like men and includes a bunch of reasons why feminine traits are viewed as weakness then I'm not sure you are all that far apart in reasoning really.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:23 AM
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To some percentage of people, sure, very few felons are serial killers though. My point is that we'll behaved rule followers tend to have the least attractive personalities, not just for dating but for all sorts of friendships and interactions. They pretty universally put people off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:08 AM
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When your meet a new person you compare them to other people you know? I dint think that's what most people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:00 AM
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Caring about personality doesn't mean they like will behaved rule followers. The most hated kids in school were typically the overly well behaved rule followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:57 AM
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Men should stand up for their beliefs and needs. What are those in your mind? What are you uniting for? Is hard to get people to speak or if there aren't any set goals. The national coalition of men being more loud?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:56 PM
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People who share all are annoying, nobody gives a shit about all your thoughts but you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:53 PM
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People have all sorts of thoughts and fantasies they have no desire to act out in real life. Sharing these things with people is something you can choose to do but you can never take it back. If knowing these things makes the other person uncomfortable there is no undo button. Everyone always picks and chooses what parts of themselves to share with others. If you have no filter your life will typically be a lot harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:02 PM
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Sex for most people isn't a performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:17 AM
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Yes if women's dating choices were actually based on a single thing like so many manosphere con artists claim it would be much much easier for y'all to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:23 PM
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Because you want to be the person that hurts her and causes baggage?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:07 PM
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You aren't entitled if you just want something. Definitely not entitled for being frustrated. I don't even think you are necessarily entitled if you blame the world. You are entitled when you think life owes it to you or want to take revenge on people you feel have rejected you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:12 AM
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If you are chasing someone for 2 years you aren't treating them like a normal human, you are treating them like they are prey. Meeting someone who lives an hour away for a date isn't abnormal in many places, why not offer to meet somewhere in the middle since that's what most friends would do when meeting up. If you treat someone like a prize you have to perform like a monkey for they will feel performed to, most people dislike that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:57 PM
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Some men really appreciate a woman who is funny, those people should date each other instead of pretending to be someone they are not. What is the point of pretending to be a person you aren't? So you can date people you don't really even like?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:45 PM
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Social skills are a thing and lacking them affects both men and women looking for relationships. That doesn't mean they are moral failures, everyone has issues with something. These people tend to be extremely competent in other areas of their lives like getting good grades. Everyone has areas that could use improvement that doesn't mean you're a bad person. People aren't black and white like that you can't file them away as good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:00 PM
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I don't "require" a man to have certain characteristics to find him attractive, just if he happens to have certain characteristics im much more likely to find him attractive. Group 1 ...Men who fit my niches have a higher likelihood of me finding them attractive. Group 2... Men who fit a handful of other niches i view as a turn off. Very very unlikely to find them attractive. Group 3... The majority are just neutral where i could find them attractive given certain circumstances, the odds are jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:34 PM
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You do get that your group is also society, right? There is part off "society" that is annoyed by men's behavior and also a large part of society that dislikes women's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:16 AM
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According to women 20 years ago men on a single app were less attractive than average according to a blog survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:14 AM
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There really isn't a difference. If you're waiting until you're in love with someone to approach them you're only choosing to hurt yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:11 AM
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Right, so just ask them out, they can deal with being annoyed just like you can deal with rejection. It's even
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:30 AM
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It's not hate to not want to be bothered by strangers. Often it's anxiety of not feeling comfortable saying no so you prefer they never approach to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 12:59 AM
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How is women not wanting to be approached by strangers the same as hate in your mind? When people approach you in the street asking for something and you don't say yes does that mean you hate them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:00 PM
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Have you ever known anyone who sleeps around a lot? They get turned down all the damn time, they just don't take it as a personal rejection and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 02:58 PM
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If caring about what others think worked well all the men here would be eating. Doormats would be sought after instead of repeatedly rejected. The men who get rejected most often are the ones dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:06 AM
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Often yes, but not always. The not caring what others think of them is often good, the not caring to the point they have few morals is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 02:00 AM
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Well women still birthed and raised them most likely so I'm sure there is still plenty of blame to hand out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:09 PM
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I'm not sure what to call people who who vote against feminism besides that. Feel free to change it to whatever word you think fits better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:59 PM
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Feminists are more likely to support things like 5050 parenting time instead of saying only mothers should raise children etc. Do you have examples of policies that only benefit men without harming others that feminists are less likely to support than conservatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:55 PM
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You still can't control that. They may think they understand but really don't. Maybe they do understand but you just don't like or understand the point of their answer. Why ask questions in public forums if you don't want public responses? But if you are asking a question why go off on a bunch of tangents? If you can't even control the direction of your own post why would you expect others to respond only on point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:49 PM
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This isn't a new thing. People who don't fear consequence have always done better and not just in dating. They are the people who go after promotions they aren't qualified for. They are the people who start businesses that they don't even know the business of. They run for office even though they don't know how government works. One of the best things you can do for yourself is work on learning not to care what others think of you. It's good for your mental health. Its good for your career. Its …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:45 PM
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Because they are people and not robots. You can't control how they respond to your questions and rants. However, if you want answers to very specific questions just ask those questions and leave off all the fluff. I can't even figure out what your main topic is here. Do you want to ask why people respond the way they do? Do you want to just revisit the post that bugged you about clothing or do you want to rant about feminism supposedly ignoring biological differences. If you can't even stay on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:22 PM
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Men are usually trying to gain access to women. You talk about women like they are a club to enter and not actual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:34 PM
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Except statistically feminists are more likely to vote in favor of policies that benefit men. There seems to be either a lot of confusion assuming all women are feminists or more likely itsc propaganda to get men to vote against their best interests in order to feel like they are exacting revenge on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:49 AM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 10:23 PM
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In both of those cases the father can absolutely go get the child. Adoptions aren't final for a year in part because the father gets time to decide to stop it. Clearly that only applies if he knows, but more often than not he knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:58 PM
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Yeah, lots of women who love having sex with men aren't turned on by simply looking at them. Its not like there is a rule that desire is only allowed to form one single way. A man who is desired sexually because of his personality is still desired sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:27 PM
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That seems to be what I have witnessed but you tell me, do you want to sleep with ugly women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:23 PM
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Wants to? Or will because he lacks any other options? Those are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:02 PM
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Plenty of women aren't raised to repress their sexually though who still don't lust after make body visuals alone. Still way more prone to desiring a romance story than watching some make man dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:58 PM
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You literally said a woman will show up and make a comment. How is reading what you said misinterpreting it? If you have any examples it might help a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:48 PM
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The OP mentions woken saying nobody is stopping men from organizing. Not being against something is literally all most men do to be feminist allies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:46 PM
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If the father disagrees with the adoption it stops. If he takes custody she pays child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:47 PM
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If you're going to be upset when even one lady responds negatively to something you say then you're bound to be annoyed for life. Women are people after all and come in all forms like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:46 PM
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She can't legally separate from the child after birth either without his approval. He gets an equal choice about his pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:38 PM
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Where are you talking about these things that they are dismissed?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:36 PM
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Men have the same legal options to avoid becoming parents that women do. Anyone, regardless of gender, can take abortion pills within a small time window when the pregnancy is in their body and they live in a specific places.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 01:49 PM
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What actions are men doing to organize and actively support women's issues that you think they should stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 01:42 PM
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So women get some men who are allies (support the cause while not actually doing the organizing) but women who are willing to support men who organize themselves aren't doing enough? Can you say specifically what you think women should be doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 01:35 PM
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My experience says yes. People don't have to outwardly proclaim things about themselves that are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 09:37 AM
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Exactly, actually nice people don't identify themselves as nice they just are, they don't need validation for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 09:32 AM
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That doesn't make sense though because I don't have to want to fuck things or people I support.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 08:50 AM
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To feel entitled to wild and crazy sex when they don't bring any wild and crazy to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:30 PM
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Oh yeah I don't think most people are like this at all. It would be awesome if we were all born with confidence and natural charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:27 PM
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Sex isn't a commodity that women dole out in quantities dependent on how worthy their partner is. It's a combination of the personalities of both people doing it together. My husband isn't likely to get wild and crazy sex (out of anyone) since he's not a wild and crazy sexual person. He gets as much wild as he gives and it's a good fit for both of us. If you want to have fun, wild sex learn to be a fun and wild person. Nobody want to perform fun/ wild sex alone on someone because they whined abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:33 PM
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I think this is totally and completely backwards. These men are not living their lives filling the desires of others, they are filling the desires of themselves and sometimes inviting others along with them. Entrepreneurs are more likely to be risk takers who go after what they want. They have a vision for their life and go after what they are looking for. They approach women they want without a fear of rejection. They dump women who don't fit their end goals. Being with people who know what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:22 PM
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As long as the plotline is always their victimization
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:02 PM
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What bias? My point is being found unattractive sucks regardless of your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:36 PM
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Just because a man will take you for an LTR doesn't mean he actually likes you. I've seen men date them who treat them like total crap. Being an unattractive woman isn't easy either. Being unattractive sucks no matter your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:36 PM
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I wouldn't enjoy having sex with a man who doesn't actually like me and is just looking for any warm body.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:33 PM
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I've seen how men treat some of my less attractive friends, if you think having men who are willing to fuck you is better you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:44 PM
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Men often can simply experience physical attraction and become sexually turned on. Women often also need to feel some sort of chemistry to feel turned on. I have never been sexually turned on by simply looking at a man, that only comes after some sort of interaction. It makes sense, if women experienced sexual attraction as easily as men do there would be so many unwanted pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:58 PM
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Something that always annoyed me about dating men was when they would assume that me rejecting them meant i was looking for someone statistically better. Just because Im not feeling it for you doesn't mean i want someone "better", i just want someone i click with in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:04 PM
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Yep, if someone doesn't experience things the exact same way you do that means their experience isn't real. Surrrrrre
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:08 PM
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Womens brains don't flip from other tasks to sex as quickly as mens do. That doesn't mean women don't like men. Just because we don't typically have the ability to spend 2 hours getting children in bed then immediately flip to sex brain doesn't mean we don't like sex with men. If women got turned on as easily as men do the world would have over populated millions of years ago. If women were ready to jump men all the time right after having babies they would end up with too many babies to care fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:46 PM
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That's a choice, if you don't care about your relationship much. Pele who care about their relationship more get a sitter now and then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:33 AM
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Sex doesn't have to be a hellishly unpleasant chore for you just not to have the energy and mental space for frequent sex while you have really small children. Most people with small children wish that they had the energy, time, mental capacity for frequent sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:30 AM
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I never see people comment negatively about random single men minding their own business, i only see people comment about men who post online rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:00 AM
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So what i said in my original comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:38 AM
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As if they feel entitled to having a relationship with another person. As if life owes people relationships with others or should be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:11 PM
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Depends on what you define success as. Its almost like women and men don't typically have the same goals and priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:24 PM
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It depends on how they word their venting. Some of the rants come off as feeling entitled to relationships and some do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:14 PM
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If you like the advice don't take it. It might be great for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:00 AM
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Ah. Got it, just another man who tells women their lived experience isn't real because it's not how he lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:30 PM
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For you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:25 PM
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There are 3 or 4 different ways a man can trigger attraction in me, it doesn't have to be his looks alone. If someone is less than physically attractive it's not game over unless they are a complete troll. But if you're unattractive, dress like you work in a cubicle, not funny and boring then you're probably pretty screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:09 PM
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No. I'm saying its not common for autistic men to be the flirty party guy so they aren't typically in casual sex environments as often as other men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:47 AM
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If you wanted to try to go after casual sex tonight would you hit on the quiet girl at the library or go after the one who is out at the bar ready to flirt and have fun? Its the same for women. If we wake up in the mood to go after a casual thing we aren't going to just call up the serious guy from class, we are going to go for the flirty one who makes it obvious what he wants. People who get more casual sex live casual sex sorta lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:41 PM
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What is the point of dating if not to find out if the other person is a good fit or not? You aren't a failure for not knowing a person before you get to know them better. Dating exists so we don't marry off to someone and find out later they were terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:06 PM
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"oh you'll run into the right girl" obviously isn't dating advice so getting upset that it doesn't manifest you a date is sorta weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:59 PM
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Most men are attractive enough that if they were in a style niche that I personally find attractive that it would be fine. Most men are not in a style niche I find attractive so I feel nothing for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:33 AM
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That highly depends on what you personally consider a successful relationship. Plenty of people out there think any relationship with a hot person and not too much conflict is a success. Others want a much deeper connection but they aren't likely the same people chasing models.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:32 PM
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I mean sort of. You can date someone for a while, find out they are an asshole and breakup and consider that a success. The success is you found out they were an asshole and dumped them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:30 PM
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Do you think women only get hired because employers are forced to hire women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:34 PM
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Most people would rather be alone than trapped in a shitty relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:14 PM
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The way you get to a successful relationships is dumping people you date when you realize it won't be successful. That's the whole point of dating. You get to know the person better and break up if it isn't going the way you hoped.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:13 PM
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I agree with this. Ugly people aren't typically nicer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:11 PM
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If you don't date to very what is the point of dating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:10 PM
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What do you imagine that means exactly? Forced marriage? No divorce no matter how much you hate each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:08 PM
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If being shamed for your behavior made people likely to change then this place wouldn't exist. It usually just makes people more bitter. More punishment doesn't make anyone nicer and rarely gets anyone to behave better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:36 AM
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But isn't that the entire point of dating? You date them until you figure out that they aren't worth it, then you break up. You don't get bonus points in life for never dating someone who turns out to be an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:32 AM
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You want me to have empathy for people who treat others with a lack of empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:04 PM
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Or date them until you don't want to anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:13 AM
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Why are you assuming it was only the 7 ft part that made him dateable? This seems like a wierd assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:24 AM
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Damn women wanting men who also like them as a person instead of just wanting to use them as sex toys. Go ahead and date for whatever reason you want but dont expect anyone to praise you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:18 PM
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Some men might, but that still doesn't mean the OP is revealing any secrets
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:33 PM
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Why not date someone who is 7ft tall? Are 7ft tall men always going to cheat? Being tall doesn't make someone a cheater just like being attractive doesn't. If you date someone who is attractive or 7ft tall and they cheat after a year you move on. It's not better somehow if you date the 5'6 guy who doesn't get the opportunity to cheat until you've been together 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:43 PM
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Yes, men attempt to date women to have access to sex. Why do you feel like this is some hidden secret? I'm confused
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:38 PM
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Then you get all the men posting here who say these women should date unattractive men because they can't easily cheat. Sorry but if the only reason you aren't cheating is because it's hard that means you're still a cheater. Being attractive doesn't make someone cheat, them choosing to cheat does. Not all men but it's a pattern
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:23 PM
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They don't even recognize they have boundaries to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:18 PM
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Not agreeable online which they're feel is their safe space. But when they describe their behavior in person it's most often doormat shit. I have to date the girl i don't actually like. I have to go along with shit i don't want...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:18 PM
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This place is a lesson in why you should never date a doormat. If a person is too agreeable on the surface there is a good chance they aren't telling you how they really feel. Secretly resentful people are just manipulators who are afraid to take risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:42 AM
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She can get uncomfortable no matter how many times you ask so it doesn't matter. If a guy can't read between the lines and tell this was a no then them asking again isn't making it worse. The entire goal is that he figure out what the answer actually means, if she gets annoyed the the process that doesn't really matter. I was not saying he should wait around.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:23 AM
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Make sure to tiptoe around the man's feelings on the post where he's complaining about women tiptoeing around his feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:52 AM
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My husband was a late bloomer who did this shit in his early 30s, literally nobody stopped him. What is supposedly stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:15 PM
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Again, not a man or woman thing, most PEOPLE change as they grow up. We all have to constantly adjust to the world around us as things change. Being confused about life changing as you age is like being confused by why its harder to breathe when you put a bag over your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:41 PM
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A lot of people don't think in black and white. They don't operate like I like this person or I don't like this person. Many take time to really decide. She was leaving the door open to see if the vibe changed between you. If things had gotten flirty and fun the next time you asked she might have said yes. Things didn't change and you kept asking anyway which made her uncomfortable. There really isn't a magic way to avoid this because you can only ask for what you want and accept that the other …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:56 PM
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Ok, so you didn't pick up on her indirect communication and you crossed her boundary, So what? She isn't comfortable in the way you communicate and you aren't comfortable in the way she communicates. Don't you both just move on then? You have to find the people who you aren't in constant miscommunication with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:43 PM
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Can you give an example of what you mean when you say misdirection and repression of emotions?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:32 PM
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This isn't a man vs woman issue. This is a man who struggles to read social cues struggling thing. There is a lot of non verbal communication that goes on in the world and if you can't read it you're going to feel left out and confused. Sorta like people reading in to what you are saying and asking further questions. That's just how people often communicate. You don't need to mind read people's boundaries ahead of time, if someone misunderstands your intentions just leave. If you can pick up in …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:29 PM
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If the reason you aren't cheating is because you lack options that just means you're a cheater who lacks options. The minute am option appears there will be issues. Give me a guy with options who chooses not to cheat any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:17 PM
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Most guys barely leaves their homes so they can't be shocked they aren't getting lots of hookuos.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:48 AM
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Because 27 days out of 28 that's what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:46 AM
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Who do assume hookups means she likes you? If a man hooks up with a woman does that mean he likes her?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:53 PM
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The OP isn't about making the cut, it's about thinking getting casual sex means you're somehow better than relationships guy... that's delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:43 PM
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Nobody calls up random friends they have had totally platonic relationships with for sex (or at least they shouldn't). People hookup with people who flirt with them pretty openly because the know there is a good chance that person also wants sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:41 PM
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The ones who make post like this seem to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:52 PM
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Getting casual sex can still make you feel validated and wanted, but that doesn't mean that it was all or even mostly about you. Women often feel validated after casual sex too, that doesn't mean he wouldn't have fucked any other woman that offered that night.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:49 PM
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I think many men would be really disappointed if they realized how much her wanting casual sex has to do with her hormones instead of your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:52 PM
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Autistic women don't just mask and learn to be decent, they also get labeled as too much and too sensitive also. They just find men who will hang around long enough to fuck them before giving them the crushing rejection. Being autistic isn't easy no matter what, it's not a character flaw. However we also need to stop pretending that autistic mens dating problems are "average guy" problems, that's not belong anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:25 PM
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That depends on a lot of factors like your age and how much offensive content you put out there that could follow you around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:30 PM
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Right, that's my point. Not all men have the same experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:12 AM
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Do they just go up to random men and tell them these things or are they responding to specific posts or groups online?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:33 AM
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Dating gets better for late boomers as they get older, for some other men its the opposite and they peak in highschool/ college. I think Id rather be a late boomer, but to each their own. But who is gaslighting men exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:20 AM
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Ah yes, women exist only to be the pleasure of men, how could i have forgotten that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:30 PM
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The point of dating is to find a good match not to tie yourself in knots pretending to be something you aren't. If a guy wants something Im not willing to give he should move on and find someone willing to give it. That benefits both of us. Him moving on would be him being assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:23 PM
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Nobody makes a person resentful, that's their choice. Usually it's because they lack assertiveness. Most people would benefit from learning assertiveness and avoiding relationships with people who tend to get resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:36 PM
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Why would anyone expect good advice from random people on anything? You either go to an expert of some sort or you just research options and try them out to see what works for you. Random everyday people rarely give decent advice on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:55 PM
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Right my comment only applies to men who say those things
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:13 PM
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The men who aren't waiting around for women who want to wait are statistically unlikely to complain about women being picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:35 PM
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The difference is that while they WANT the woman who is instantly sexual, they will take the woman who makes them wait. They might be resentful about it but they will still take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:30 PM
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Everything is conditional. Who hands over control of their finances to someone they are just dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:48 AM
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It would be like any custody matter, you'd need evidence to support your claim. It's obviously going to be pretty tricky to argue that you were in a romantic relationship with someone for months or years and that one time they got pregnant was rape. The vast majority of unwanted kids come from relationships, not one time encounters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:22 AM
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You can only control your own choices, not others choices though. .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:15 AM
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It was a lot easier to justify changing your name when you got married at 20, had no career and couldn't get a credit card. It's a whole different thing if you get married at 30. Imagine you have an established career with business contacts, multiple bank accounts, multiple credit cards, a passport etc etc. Suddenly changing your name seems really outdated and unnecessary. People are way less likely to care about traditions that take little effort don't have lasting consequences like kneeling fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:40 PM
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Teachers want kids paying attention instead of making babies so why would male teachers want to teach you otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:34 AM
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So if it's working so normally for you in the end why do we need teachers to focus on the sex appeal of children?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:37 AM
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So now that you have the answers you just get the amen and get married, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:20 AM
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If hating feministsx made men get dates yall would be eating. Now that you have all the answers you're good, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:12 AM
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Shouldn't the men pick better women? Or is that something only women are supposed to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 08:01 PM
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Why would attractive men do this? To spite women who have access to relationships like they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:51 PM
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Who are the random women you don't even know going to ruin your reputation with? If you're town only has one gym then maybe you don't fuck around with your gym reputation but anywhere else if there's a huge misunderstanding there you just go to a new gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:12 AM
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My entire point is that its not "traditional gender roles" if it directly follows how women experience attraction. You said they only approach men who are very physically attractive or they develop some other connection to... yeah because otherwise they don't feel anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:23 PM
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I have personally witnessed the awful things men have done and said to my less attractive friends, particularly after having sex. I don't think most men do it but the ones who do are often single and approaching. It's not an internet talking point just because you don't do it. Being a woman who isn't particularly attractive definitely isn't easy street like men here claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:53 PM
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Right, because women tend to only be attracted to men who are either extremely physically attractive or men they have gotten to know and the attraction grew off other qualities. That's just how it works. Why would women ask out men they haven't developed attraction to? Men will approach and hit on women they find unattractive just for access to sex. Men aren't some bastions of appropriate approching, just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:22 PM
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So women do ask out guys they find attractive but not guys they don't find attractive? Unlike men who ask out women they find less attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:27 PM
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I thought men were mad at women for not liking simp behavior anymore and instead requiring the guy to actually be attractive now? It's almost like no matter what women do there will be a group of men it pisses off who assume all women do it. Most women dislike being played to, they just want to have normal ass conversations with a man who also finds them attractive. We want friendship with a side of sex life. Women who want to play assigned gender roles exist but in much smaller numbers than eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:32 PM
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And your piano playing was what held your relationships together long term? Like your relationship partners just sit and listen to you play?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:31 PM
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Most people would find travel way more interesting to talk about than listening to someone talk about practicing the piano. This is just a personal rant that more people aren't your specific sort of weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:10 PM
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There are so many hobbies someone could have that wouldn't make them more attractive too most people. Again, this is just your preference and you only count hobbies you find more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:59 PM
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This is the exact sort of advice that is the least helpful. What benefit is it for random women you will never meet to learn to be more attractive to you? I also find people without hobbies boring and that is why I am with my husband, however, I don't for a second think that he would be a good fit for most women. Most people who are more basic actually prefer their partners be the same. My chill friends would be super annoyed by my husband's hobbies just like I would be annoyed by their husbands…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:45 PM
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Circus workouts
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:44 PM
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Women who took a survey for a blogpost on one dating site close to a decade ago thought that 80 percent of men on the site were less attractive than average. How you can twist that into a "fact" about women overall is crazy. Men claim so often here to be the logical sex but all I see is faux logic to cover up their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 10:39 AM
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Do you assume that people who don't get turned on by visuals only don't have active sex lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:16 AM
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Just because looking at someone doesn't make you wet doesn't mean that you don't get wet for them for other equally valid attraction reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:05 AM
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So you only care about looks and that's nearly all that matters? I'm not saying some women aren't like this, it's just not very common. Usually when people say reactive it means you can't tell if you'll be sexually attracted just by looking at a profile, or do you mean something else by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:35 AM
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I'm not sure that's why. Most women I know hate apps because they can't get a real feel for the person through photos. If we were all as visually attracted as men tend to be it would likely work pretty well. It's not just because men are desperate that apps suck for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:43 AM
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This has been tried, it didn't work well financially for the company. Nobody is in the matchmaking business for charity. Apps exist to make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:25 AM
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Boundaries are great for self protection but why would i need to protect myself from spending time with my husband? He can try to talk me into going out but I'm not under any pressure to do it and I'm not going to resent him for wanting to spend time with me. If i agree that's my decision and i own that decision, i don't change my mind if i really don't want to. My point is that how you say no matters a lot if you care about the person. People have feelings, ignoring that is silly. If you like y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:28 PM
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So you want to be able to change plans with someone at the last minute and not experience a negative reaction or hurt feelings on their end? If my husband was looking forward to going out but I'm tired i ask if he'd be ok changing plans but still doing something together or rescheduling because spending time with him is still my priority. It's really not all that hard. Sometimes he talks me into going out tired and it ends up being great.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:04 PM
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It's almost always about how you word it. If you make a comment or post about your suffering only or blame yourself in some way people will generally respond that it's not all your fault. If you make a post or comment generalizing xyz people you will get pushback. How much you externalize your pain matters. I know women who do this and they get similar reactions to men who do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:42 PM
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Hoarding attention? How does that work exactly? How do possibly control attention boarding behavior? If someone gives me attention am i forced to reciprocate? How much time per day so i need to devote to reciprocating attention people choose to give me? What is the punishment if i don't or can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:48 PM
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Something I've noticed with people who are full wfh is many lose the desire to ever leave the house and just become way less social overall. My husband has had this exact job and it affected his personality in a not wonderful way. It was great for a while but made him less fun to interact with overall. I think most people benefit from getting out a bit, hybrid jobs are great for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:43 PM
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So you think my comment was about any ire pointed at any feminist? My comment was specifically about this one topic, hence the word "here". Context in conversations matters. If you don't like context and only want single statements twitter might be a better format for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:49 PM
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Sorry when you mentioned posts and comments i assumed you were referencing social media of some sort should have said social media instead of a specific platform but that's still applies even to reddit. You will get shown things you are most likely to react to, This is like saying a humanist who believes in the Christian God is responsible for what other extremists do in the name of Christianity. That's just not how really life works. Feminism doesn't have one definition that is controlled by a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:39 PM
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There is no membership though anyone can claim to be feminist based on whether they agree with one ideal or all of them. The way algorithms work people don't usually see content unless they either really agree or really disagree. My feed doesn't fill up with content that i semi agree with. You probably shouldn't base your impression of something off tiktok reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 04:44 PM
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So if some guys switch their mode from one to the other at some point isn't it best for women to attempt to select guys who are in the same mode they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:32 PM
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Isn't that half the point made when women warn other women away from age gap relationships? If you want someone who values you for more going with the guy who only chases young women means you'll be unlikely to find what you want in this relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:39 PM
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Are you claiming that men who will bond emotionally don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:53 AM
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Some people are obsessed with being attractive and being validated by people being attracted to them. People who are like this can't seem to understand other people who aren't at all. No, most people aren't lying to you or themselves about their feelings on the matter, they just don't think like you do. Not everyone feels immense validation when someone wants to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:33 AM
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Right, so many of them aren't feminist enough then, or are you trying to argue something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:43 PM
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I don't ever get why feminism is the target of the ire here. The more liberal and feminist a woman is the more likely she is to be into bi men, so how is the feminism the problem then? It sure seems that the issue is how trad ideals are so deeply saturated into our culture than anything. Wouldn't you want people to become more liberal and feminist if you want more support as a bi man?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:39 PM
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I totally agree with trying to find out as many deal breakers as you can beforehand. My comment is really about people around here who act like if you date someone for a bit and it doesn't work out that its terrible. It's really fucking normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:22 PM
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I don't have anything financially in common with either of these people so neither? That's the thing about financial or dating advice, it doesn't really do shit for you if it doesn't address the specific problems you are having or suggest solutions you are capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:34 PM
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I'm totally down for getting a much info as you can early on but needing all info before dating is crazy because it nullifies the whole point of dating which is to get to know someone better. Learn to break up without thinking it's some massive personal failure. It's not a failure to date someone a bit and realize you aren't compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:50 AM
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You keep saying vulnerability but then just talking about gender war discussions. Do you mean victimhood? Like you want to discuss with women how men are often victims of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:27 PM
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Why would i even know that he had that? Even if i looked at those, which i don't, what would be the odds this guy would get posted when I'm looking? Is she posting about him constantly over and over for some reason? Or is he dating me like immediately right at their breakup? Why would she hate the guy that much? What percentage of possible new partners for him would even see it? How much could this really affect him?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:22 PM
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I feel like the discussion is getting extremely side tracked to become about this one random woman but how did she now see men as full people?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:14 PM
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What would be the worst danger to you if that were to happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:02 PM
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If your partner isn't capable of empathy the relationship isn't perfect. But that story doesn't sound like it describes an issue with empathy, it just sounds like gender war trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:59 PM
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Algorithms will be the death of our society. Someone else over here only sees zesty referenced online as a compliment to men who aren't afraid of having their masculinity questioned. If your tiktok is full of content that makes you feel hated delete it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:02 PM
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Why would you want a relationship with someone who would hate you if they knew you're true feelings? What is fulfilling about a fake relationship to begin with? At that point it's not just refusing to express your feelings it is basically lying. My comment was under the assumption that the negative feelings weren't all directly pointed at you relationship partner, if they are that's a whole other issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 01:56 PM
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How you express your feelings matters a lot in how those feelings are responded to by others. Whiny can sometimes pass in really small doses but anyone who whines a lot will get a lot of people avoiding them regardless of gender. Then the comments will typically say yeah but whiny women still get dates. They still sometimes get men who will want to fuck them, they rarely get men who enjoy their company. Men are more likely to dick someone they don't enjoy the company of but they won't typically …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:43 AM
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Then men shouldn't have any issues fixing their dating problems. I'm so glad to hear that men are capable of it all, that's a different sort of take around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:07 PM
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Are you not in the USA or just don't follow the news?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:04 PM
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You are 100 percent wrong about family courts in the US and how your attitude hurts men. It's so common to hear "women have all the power in family courts so instead of spending money to fight it I just gave her full custody." It does NOT help men to make courts out to be way more daunting than they really are. It doesn't make them more likely to fight, it makes them more likely to walk away without even looking into the reality. For example. My husband has a child from before our marriage. She …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:20 PM
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Feminists had to fight for how many decades to get simple equality in the law ( not in daily treatment) and men fight them every step of the way to this day actively trying and often succeeding in removing their rights. Men decide to start talking about their problems online and in podcasts in the last 10 years or so and can't handle that all women don't agree with them on everything? You will never get all of the people not to agree with you all of the time. I never said anything about blaming …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:13 PM
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It goes totally unchallenged yet there a numerous subreddits, podcasts, channels, radio shows that are dedicated to complaining about it. Also you again have to ignore all the people in actual power working actively to limit the actual rights of women. But sure, things women do go totally unchallenged... sure
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:47 PM
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What do you mean society makes exceptions? Allows them to continue existing without physical punishment? Women get a lot of clapback constantly. In many states their rights are being limited legally, they can be legally punished for making decisions about their own bodies. There are people in actual power in the house/ senate/ presidency trying to make it harder for women to vote and strip their rights. If you are seriously trying to argue that nobody gives women a hard time you need to get your…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:31 PM
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When people are hurting they tend to be really shitty at discussing their pain in a way that garners empathy. There really is no such thing as a safe space if you are consuming internet content. If witnessing people be unempathetic to your pain or disagree with your stance makes you more upset the only semi safe decision is to avoid the internet. All you have to do is make a few bad clicks and you will be bombarded with content that will piss you off. If people can't learn to figure out that it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:39 PM
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What do you believe the substance is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:46 PM
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So if you know it's not about all men and women why do you assume in your post it's the same women doing these things? Are you just trying to manufacture an argument? The OP doesn't mean shit if it's not based on reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:37 PM
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Daily reminder that women aren't all the same person. The type of person who complains about Manic Pixie fantasies isnt often the same woman with fantasies of being swept up by the rich guy. Just because some people think the thing you are into is stupid doesn't mean it's not socially permissible to enjoy that thing. Anytime the things you enjoy become obsessive it will become less socially permissible so as long as you aren't talking non stop about your manic pixie fantasies enjoy the content.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:19 PM
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I wasnt arguing you i was answering your question about avoiding the women. You don't have to write someone off at the first question you have about them because dating allows you to learn more about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:06 PM
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The entire point of dating is to get to know the person better. If you date them and it turns out they were toxic themselves you just break up. Dating someone for a bit who turned out to have issues isn't really a mark against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:41 AM
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You do realize most women don't do that, right? Even if many of us don't like it when it happens to us that doesn't mean we push men to stop it. Even if only a tiny percentage of women complained about it online it could look like a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:53 PM
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But the nerdy kid in movies is also always hot too. It's never a neck beard guy. It's just non sporty attractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:22 PM
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Not all parents lie to their children to the same extent. It's this mainly an issue for children who were extremely sheltered?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:20 PM
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Black and white thinking seems to be much of the barrier
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:17 PM
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A lot of people who think they would enjoy dancing don't join dance classes because they are afraid of being laughed at and ostracized by the group. It's why people who aren't naturally sporty don't join team sports groups. Unless you are a small child you generally have to pay people to teach you new skills plus suffer through the period where you feel like a total embarrassing failure at it. It's a lot more like learning other skills than it is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:48 AM
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So women would be picker of we outlawed divorce again?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:36 AM
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How was that better exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 09:38 PM
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When was dating and marriage better? Was it better when there was no divorce and you were forced to stay no matter how much you disliked your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:01 AM
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It's sorta hard to empathize with someone's plight when they say shit like women have inherent value. Yes, i know that lonely men who want sex think that someone using them as a human sex toy would add value to their life, but women repeatedly tell you it doesn't make them feel valuable at all. I have no desire to use men for money so my desirability to them as a human sex toy doesn't matter to me. If you want empathy the best way to get it is to start by giving it, if you are unable to do so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:20 AM
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If you don't give a shit about something why would you use it as an example to show what a free thinker you are? If you don't give a shit about it were you only saying it to be contrary? That's not free think inker behavior, that is just shitster behavior. Trolling people is only edgy in middle school.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:59 PM
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Being a capitalist who hates feminists isn't exactly original thought. If you think your POV is original you might want to spend some time reading the posts around here. Imagine writing this shit while calling others intellectually lazy with victimized complex. It's this a joke or actual projection?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:01 PM
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Too bad they add like 80 other bullshit things on top that nullify any benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 03:49 AM
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Why do you think your parents would have good dating advice? By the time i was 12 i knew for sure my parents didn't have all the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 03:39 AM
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Well sure anyone can give a came response or lie about something that's why you have lots of conversations and not just one over the course of dating. If he turns out to be a liar then it's over.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:25 AM
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If a person is a reasonable person i never have to set boundaries with them to begin with. Odds are if you have to set a bounty the person won't be happy about it. That's sorta how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:05 AM
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Their ecosystem causes issues because they are easy to exploit. It's a hard thing to get a grasp on if you're not willing to lie to them a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:40 AM
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The things the people in the other country call them aren't usually much nicer either, they just can't speak the language.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:32 PM
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Never has dating internationally been easier. If you want to do it why not just do it? Anyone who can afford to travel can, so why not just prioritize that? Why would you need government incentives to meet people you could meet now if you wanted to? We can't even make sure all people get Healthcare nobody's going to care if you need help traveling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:08 PM
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Op said "someone needs to put them in their place" what are your talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:05 PM
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Wait aren't you literally doing the exact thing you say they do that bugs you? They complain that men are intimidated and that they should be put in their place so you respond by complaining that these women are too uppity and should be put in their place? If the behavior is offputting why do you yourself do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 04:01 PM
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Why are you confused that all sounds very trad
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:36 AM
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Right, that was much of the point i was trying to make. It was about perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:30 AM
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My point is it is a problem for everyone. It's a problem for the women because we get hassled by the shitty guys so often we get burn the f out. It's a problem for guys because it makes us wary of dealing with men. Nobody said hate. I don't have to hate someone to simply prefer to avoid dealing with them if possible. We just get tired. Definitely not the same as hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:34 PM
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How is any of that a problem with my statement? I feel like we are actually in agreement here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:28 PM
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The only reasons a decent man would go up to a woman is friendship or romance however it's actually most likely the decent man just doesn't risk the rejection and goes home. Women are over and over and over and over dealing with the manipulative, annoying, pushy, shitty men who don't fear rejection so we get tired. Bears are also cool, I don't get to see them that often so its still fun when i do. Most men I have seen (outside the internet) who were asked the man or bear question also picked the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:25 PM
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"Lokks aren't everything" isn't saying advice so that might be part of the miscommunication here. Who the f says "act like a gentleman? "Are you going to your gma for advice? I get it, women haven't helped solve your issues, but if it were simple everyone would just know the magic answer and no advice would ever be needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:32 PM
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The funny part is it only feels easier in that moment you decide not to actually say what you want. Pretending to want things you don't day in and day out is way more exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:44 AM
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If it's working well for you by all means keep pretending to be someone you aren't in order to get the response you desire. It's exhausting and will likely leave you miserable, but its your choice at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:42 PM
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This is doormat mindset. Trying to control others reactions by guessing what behavior they would like most to see. Nobody forces you into doing this, it's just a less direct way of trying to control people around you. It sets you up for a life of resentment. I highly recommend learning to get rid of this mindset forgot your own happiness. You can't control the responses of others to the extent you'll stop feeling resentful. It's better t pay attention to what you actually want and let them have …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:53 PM
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Nobody said someone who can't make others laugh isn't worthy of love though. It might be harder for them to find a good match for themselves but that doesn't mean they aren't worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:45 PM
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My level of annoyance with being approached or asked out terms to be directly correlated to how casual the conversion is. Never felt annoyed by a guy who kept the conversation light and clearly wasn't going to take my rejection personally. I get increasingly stressed by guys who aren't going to take a no thanks well or try to argue me around. But hands down the worst situation is the guy who confesses his love and feelings. It's so fucking stressful to have someone you're friends with dump all o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:41 PM
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This is the problem you get when you pretend to be someone you aren't while dating. Partners didn't realize you were just faking to hook them and get let down. Don't perform too someone if you want someone who doesn't want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:32 PM
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You are basically just saying you are fine with concentration warehouses and denying people their constitutional rights. Nothing about your statement changes the facts in my statement. Of course some people are fine with what is happening or it wouldn't be happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:56 PM
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What do you believe makes the technical difference there? They are camps where people are being held indefinitely without due process because of their race. Concentration camp doesn't mean extermination camp, those are sixteenth things but people often confuse them. Ann Frank died in a concentration camp or a detention camp, not an extermination camp so people often confuse them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:08 PM
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Are you denying that they exist? I'm not sure what you are claiming?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:01 PM
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What part shows evidence of brainwashing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:19 AM
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I think that every day before people are allowed to open the internet they should have to watch a PSA about algorithms
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:38 AM
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I can't figure out what you're trying to debate specifically. I also can't even figure out what the word good means to you. Can you explain what a good woman would be? Or is a woman only good of she had no negative qualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:11 AM
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Oh that made me feel so much better. I was worried for a minute that my husband could leave me for a younger, hotter woman but knowing I am better than nothing has reassured me that we can have a long lasting, partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:25 AM
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The supreme court has repeatedly upheld that constitutional rights apply to everyone, not just US citizens. So if you are going to go around ranting about laws you might want to do some actual research into what the laws are. How can your right of religion conflict with my right of free speech exactly? I would love to hear someone who has supposedly attended law school explain that to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:58 PM
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Yes many people in the world think that violating the human rights of others should be untouchable. Immigration in the US clearly wasn't an untouchable issue in 2024 since there was an agreed on bipartisan bill to address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:30 PM
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So because there are more issues with immigration than the massive human rights violations that are currently taking place people who talk about the massive human rights violations that are currently taking place are radicals... sure. I didn't say anyone is evil but I guess at least that is something we likely can agree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:18 PM
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Are you claiming that the warehouses where people are being held indefinitely without due process as afforced in the constitution are not suffering human rights issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:01 PM
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They matter more than ever. I know elderly couples on the verge of split ups over political differences now. They used to be able to agree to disagree because the main disagreement was what entitlement program tax money got spent on. Now the difference is between being pro concentration camp or not. Sorry should say concentration warehouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:25 PM
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"backed by studies" that often show the opposite of what the poster is claiming. It's not manipulation if someone disagrees with your interpretation of data. The most often sited "study" here is a blog post from nearly 20 years ago. If you want to play a game of "facts" you gotta bring the receipts or it's all just games. This is a perfect example of men claiming to be factual while actually offering zero facts to back up their claims. You called women multiple names in these comments and accuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:10 PM
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Again, what specific facts are you claiming the irrational women ignore? Since you are unable to show any examples it's hard to assume what you are claiming is true. Don't even need links just state what the facts are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:02 PM
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Can you give me an example of some of these so called facts? So many self identified rational people in these spaces spewing out feelings and assumptions and calling them facts. I would love to see a specific example of what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:15 PM
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If none of the redpill is about unfairness why is so much of the content and posts on redpill forums men complaining about how much easier they imagine women have it? You can search this forum for the word unfair and find out how many times men use it to describe their situation. The red pill is like the bible everyone can pick and choose what parts to believe in and what to ignore in order to fit their own personal worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:47 PM
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That would make no sense with the response rates like they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:14 AM
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If there are so many more men than women on the apps and men swipe on most women why would they swipe more? If you swipe on 5 people and get 4 matches and conversations that's gonna be enough to keep you busy. Why would women swipe on more men? To have potential conversations you're too busy to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:43 AM
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Yeah because it's totally the same as CP..... right
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:12 PM
1

Which innate struggles specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:11 PM
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A lot of people get sexually excited by things they don't personally want to experience. People who feel the need to live out every single idea that turns them on are weird and make bad partners because they are never satisfied. I would lol for signs of this and avoid dating such people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:30 PM
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What is the point you're trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:27 PM
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So men are victims of they want something they have to go attempt to get it? That is such a fucking weird mindset. If you are hungry do you complain that you have to go get food? Do you complain that you have to go to the store while some other random person didn't? Nobody has to initiate anything if they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:11 PM
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If the person did try and couldn't find a solution that worked do you still cheat and hurt them? If they don't even try at all why do you want to keep tied to them? Punishment?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:34 AM
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15 years ago it was easy to empathize with lonely men online because they talked about the pain of loneliness and their inability to connect. Now it's almost always red pill fueled rantss about unfairness and lots of blame. If you're response to pain is too lash out it makes people way less likely to empathize. Like if someone is poor and hungry and they talk about what starvation feels like vs ranting about how easy everyone else has it and how stealing from them is justified. They way you disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:26 AM
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I doubt many fans of dark romance fantasize as themselves as the one hurting others though. It's almost always some sort of traumac fantasy where the person who hurts me actually loves me and our bond saved both of us. Give me a person with trauma who fantasize like this over someone who fantasize of having power over others any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:21 AM
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This isn't an accident. It was a way to get people with a generally low self worth to think society agrees with their feeling of their self worth so they are easier to manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:39 AM
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I see it in certain circles and cultures more than others. It's almost always more trad types that i don't share much in common with. I think it's weird when i see it. However, i usually think other things are wild about these types of relationships. Like my friend who is Italian lives in an area with a lot of southern European immigrants and they are all like this. Maybe you need to find people who think more like yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:21 PM
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Just because you read a book doesn't mean you want to live it. Do you also question people who read murder books about why they want people in their lives to murder
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 06:26 PM
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You think mainstream people don't generally think hot people get more leeway? Seriously? You can agree with some of the people all of the time, you can agree with all of the people some of the time but you will never agree with all of the people all of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:41 PM
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That's not at all what i said. I said it can apear that way to someone who has only interacted with scammers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:13 PM
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These people arent typically looking for actual dates though they are looking for easy marks for money scams. They fish for easy targets by pretending to be gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:08 AM
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Probably because of you're online dating and not one of the more desirable choices the interactions you do have tend to be with women (or men pretending to be women) who are looking to get money out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:52 AM
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So then you aren't anti marriage you're just anti asset sharing? You can still be married without comingling assets and bank accounts. Just like you can be in an LTR and have a lot of it. Its not common for a person to be able to own a home on their own these days which makes all this more difficult. A married person who divorced often comes out financially ahead of someone who lived alone their entire adult life based solely on real estate (kids change finances obviously regardless of marriage)…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:29 PM
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Try leaving an LTR with shared assets and no marriage, it's even messier if you joint own property.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:57 PM
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Most divorces don't even go to court and have no assets of significant value to split. In many cases is like a break up with a bit of paperwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:55 PM
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You sure being her up a lot for someone who isn't relevant. The man doth protest too much me thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:07 AM
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I notice you didn't answer the question, Is this a game where you see how much pain she'll take before she leaves? Why not just do the leaving unless you are enjoying this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:57 AM
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What emotion do you feel thinking about your wife hurting? You like it dontv you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:40 AM
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Yeah there is no one piece of advice that cures all dating issues. Everyone has their own mix of issues that make their own life harder in ways. The think about being a doormat and worrying about what people think of you is that it doesn't just negatively impact you when dating, it negatively impacts all relationships you will have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:34 PM
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Pretending to be a different person so you can catfish people with a fake persona isn't exactly the person I was talking about. My comment only refers to people who are constantly worrying about what others think of them as the OP described. A person with a doormat personality will often have 100 reasons why being a doormat is something they have to do to keep people happy but they also seem to struggle with maintaining relationships because it mostly annoys people. Even doormats get annoyed by …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:23 PM
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I read the title and thought none of my friends are like that maybe this guy is into superficial women. Then i read the rest and realized it was just a random hate women rant. K bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:47 PM
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Please see first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:52 PM
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I agree that not caring what women think is great. I disagree that it's advice. Nobody who struggles with self identity issues can just stop caring what others think. Nobody who is a doormat can just simply change their outlook and develop a self identity to get there. This is like saying "people with money problems need to just become millionaires then it will be easier". That is the end goal, not the process, its not advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:35 PM
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The real best best approach is to work on liking yourself regardless of what others think of you. Develop your own opinions and personality that you actually like and stop catering to others. Basically learn not to be a doormat, very few people want to be with a doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:47 PM
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A father can also abandon a child at a firehouse, that exists to protect children from murder, not as an out for women. A father can also stop an adoption if he isn't on the birth certificate by filing in court for paternity, adoptions aren't final for a year because of that possibility. If the father stops it and takes custody he can get child support court ordered just like the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:18 AM
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Anyone can become less attractive to you once you get to know them better. Someone thinking you were super hot when you met isn't going to make them want to fuck you often 10 years down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:00 PM
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That's 90 percent of what people complain about now. I have zero hope for our future at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:34 PM
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Can you post a link to someone arguing for what you are talking about? I'm confused how daily hours has to do with monthly cycles. I feel like something is missing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:09 PM
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Well sure if you eliminate the huge sectors that primarily employ women you can get the statistics to match what you claim. That's just manipulation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:17 PM
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I'm confused about the job part. Women getting jobs is an issue period? Or is it only an issue if they get good jobs? Or is it only an issue is a man also wanted the job?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:57 PM
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Growing on someone is awesome and it doesn't mean the attraction is less just because it's based on something besides looks alone. Some of the healthiest relationships I know are between couples who weren't immediately attracted to each other. Any start could lead you to a shaky core, overthinking it on a relationship that doesn't even exist yet is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:18 PM
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The only factors I see making big differences in how much a person dates is, do they regularly leave their house and how much they care what others think of them. The less you care what others think of you the less rejection matters, and if you never leave your house it's extremely hard to meet people. It does seem to me that poor rural people date a lot more than higher earning people in cities/ burbs but that might go hand in hand with caring about what others think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:11 PM
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This is batshit. He's got female friends, women like him he doesn't need to play power games to interest them, wtf. He just has to work on being a little more sexual in his interactions since women tend to have responsive desire. If we feel no flirt or interest from the guy or brains will register it as no sprark, just a friend. Nice guy with a little flirt beats this shit all day every day, do not do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:08 AM
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It's easier to say the other side has bad standards when you don't understand how they experience attraction to begin with. It's harder for women to decide on someone at the entry level stage that they haven't met in person yet. Most of us at that point can only say attraction could be possible, but there is no guarantee it will happen when we finally meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:45 AM
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My list wasn't mean to be a complete list of things men in general need ever, more just in the same vein of the OP on learning to say no and set boundaries for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:35 AM
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I feel like this is so close to what many men need but then just veers of to crazy town. More men need to be taught to recognize when someone's trying to use them. More men need to learn to say no. Many men need to spend less time thinking about how to impress women and more time thinking about what they actually want and how to find it. More men need to be open to therapy so they can get rid of the damage their manipulative parents did to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:15 AM
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I would expect that if i don't use perfect language people will guestion me about my choice of words, and then i wild try to clarify.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:08 AM
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If i take someone or a group of someones somewhere i expect to pay for them. Its how the topic comes up and is planned that matters. I would never call someone and say let me take you to dinner then expect them to pay, but that's not typically how things are planned. A lot of couples plan outings together and split expenses. It would likely be a little weird to never pay for anything for your partners kids but if also say it is typical where i live that the parent pays for the bulk of the expens…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 09:55 AM
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I must not have explained my point well if you think I'm agreeing with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:47 AM
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For sure. I was not trying to imply that negging is a better option. I think that is used more by manipulative guys who are looking for people who have low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:32 PM
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So many stds
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 04:01 PM
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Yeah once you get into the old folks home as a man you're golden
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:19 PM
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Plenty of men want to stay with their partners even after they are 40 and have had kids. Some people actually like their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:06 PM
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My worst relationship nightmare would be to be trapped in a relationship with someone who has a strong desire to get out. If shame is the only thing making you stay with me Id much rather you be gone. I would call this a win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 02:48 PM
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Is this a black and white thinking thing? Do you think if a relationship ends that means one or both of the people have to be "bad"? Women definitely tend to be less tolerant of incompatibility than men are, but why do you think that means men are better or good? You aren't automatically good because your relationship lasted longer. Men are more likely to have relationships with people they don't even like very much, seems to me neither extreme is better than the other. Most people aren't all go…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:51 PM
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Yes that's why i can't make your previous comment make sense. The discussion is primarily about dating which the entire point is to get to know the person better. I can't figure out what you were getting at before at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:56 AM
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The topic specifically says "lesbian dating problems" so I guess i missed the part where it turned specifically about marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:11 AM
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You know you can flirt with someone and express sexual interest without putting them on a pedestal, right? You can be attracted to someone you view and treat like a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:14 AM
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I'm not saying it's necessarily healthier im just not jumping in the longer relationships are automatically better assumption either. Most people i know in the LGBT community joke about lesbian couples moving super fast, i just can't get upset about a 6 month relationship whilrwind relationship ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:12 AM
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I'm not denying that they break up more, I'm denying that that's automatically bad. I see so many men stay in relationships with women they barely tolerate who should probably break up. I'm saying breaking up isn't always the worst thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:42 PM
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How do you know that they didn't also pass up a lot of blatently bad relationships though? The whole point of dating is to get to know someone better and see if the appearance of compatibility lasts or not. Needing to fully vet a person for full compatibility before simply dating is sorta weird. Especially if that person can't even get you pregnant and likely isn't particularly physically dangerous to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:28 PM
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You can only resolve issues that both parties want to resolve though and those tend to be pretty rare. Even if women were better communicators (which I'm not claiming) why would we assume that would solve all relationship issues? Even if two great communicating women live together that doesn't mean issues like differences in money habits etc will be solvable. Sometimes you just can't agree. The reason talking about issues works is because you can figure out if it's solvable or incompatibility. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:18 PM
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Lesbian couples are also way more likely to move in together or get married sooner so it isn't really shocking the break up more often. I don't love the whole idea that relationships that last longer are better since I've seen so many long marriages that are totally toxic but the people just don't break it off for whatever reason. Women are more likely to leave but honestly i think men could benefit from learning to do that more often too. Stop staying in relationships that drain you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:46 PM
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Being sucked up to isn't unattractive because most dudes do it therefore making it less special, it's just uncomfortable all on its own. If a guy i barely know has me on some pedestal I don't know how to interact with that. I'm just a normal fucking person who wants to have conversations with other people who treat me like a normal person to get to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:29 PM
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Please explain how so
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:15 PM
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Red pill is always coming in teaching about all the secrets. Hot people get more sexual attraction and now cheaters are more likely to cheat. How can anyone survive without learning these redpill truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:40 PM
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Using psuedological tactics can derail a conversation just as much as emotions can. It's really not better like you are claiming it to be. It's one of the most common tactics people use to dismiss arguments and avoid accountability. Just like your example above of telling someone who is upset to calm down. It takes the focus off what they are upset with you about and twists the conversion to tone instead. It's often just manipulative gaslighting shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:34 AM
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Wouldn't a logical person learn what actually helps people calm down if they are upset? Wouldn't the logical person pretty easily find out that telling someone in an emotional state to calm down will likely only escalate things? Logical people know that's just a game to get the person more upset and of balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:12 AM
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If you're actually logical you probably don't have to claim it outloud and use it as an excuse to justify a conversation going off the rails. Actual logical people tend to see where the disconnect happened and are able to try to establish the connection or realize when the conversation becomes pointless. Most of the time someone claims they're being logical it seems to be more of a manipulation tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:57 AM
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Go read the r/stepparent page. Men definitely expect their partners to raise and pay for their children all the time. Yes, if you adopt a child you become legally responsible to financially support that child, it's literally what adoption is. You are not a victim if you go through the legal process of adoption then get upset that it means you're now the legal parent. Wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:52 AM
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Men typically claim to be logical. Then go off on what they call logic but others consider emotional rants. People are really shit at being self aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:41 AM
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I think this might be the closest I've ever seen a guy get to how most womens libidos work. It's so rarely about the guy or his looks and way more likely about how she woke up that day and if she can tell that he's also into her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:33 AM
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The post you're using as an example is pretty weak since it's possible to agree with some of what she's saying without agreeing with her totally. I wonder if that isn't the bulk of the difference here. Women are much less likely to be black and white thinkers than men are. I find it nearly impossible to ever agree with black and white think which makes it really hard to ever agree with a percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 12:41 PM
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I've definitely seen it happen with my friends. Although my friends who were openly too intimidated to approach pretty women were typically also too intimidated to approach less attractive women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:59 PM
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Id say for me out was 5050 whether something came up that turned me off or if we've just been chatting for a while but nothing has turned me on. Usually if it is a turn off is flat out tell him there's no point in continuing. It it was just a lack of any spark id hope it would just fizzle out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:48 PM
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Responsive desire means you find someone more attractive if you know they find you attractive. Its when feeling wanted makes you feel desire for the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:39 PM
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Probably that payriarchal bullshit that men should pay for women that still remains in certain groups. No man should pay for someone they don't want to pay for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:50 PM
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I can't figure out what the point is you are trying to make here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:38 PM
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Perhaps our they are agreeing with each other, that totally depends on the exact argument and context. I see sexism claims from men constantly on debates about age gaps but often the women just think something the men don't like. If you want to discuss a particular conversation post a link.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:37 PM
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The comment isn't intended to sign blame though, it's to help people choose to remove themselves from bad situations. It's about claiming your own power.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:32 PM
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Women are just more likely to back each other up and try to build each other up than men are. Men often seem to enjoy watching other men struggle more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:27 PM
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I can say women support each other more because i see women support each other way more often. I cant speak for any specific discussion without actually seeing it and how the participants are speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:20 PM
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Yes, its the normal people way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:32 AM
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Women are wonderful affect doesn't seem to be promoted by women that I can see. Women might stand up for each other more but they don't seem to be in denial that women are people and therefore not automatically wonderful. Any woman who made it through middle school knows women can be horrible if they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:42 PM
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Do you have any studies to support your claim that women are more emotional which was the claim? All evidence I can find is that they are very similar but women might be more comfortable outwardly expressing certain emotions. Or are you only counting neuroticism because it makes women look worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:40 PM
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Yes, women are more likely to support each other than men are, that's not really new news. Just because someone complains about a behavior doesn't mean that the complainer will always be perfect. That's sorta how life works, you get bothered by things then you do things that bother others. Nobody is perfect, but adults should generally be trying to make better choices if they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:26 PM
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People who attempt to appeal to a wider range of people often fail massively though. It's a pretty rare situation where going generic will work the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:50 PM
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Men who are jobless typically expect to be covered by their woman. It's a genderless concern. If you don't want to support someone else don't shack up with a jobless person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:54 PM
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Men are quicker to anger
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:43 AM
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You think they don't read your messages and track your behavior? Ha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:40 AM
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They purposefully promote people who are casual daters too, they don't value people finding the one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:09 AM
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If your profile isn't recognized as attractive pretty quickly it gets buried and nobody sees it. They often do very little to control fake accounts or obvious scammers. They purposefully promote the profiles of people who are casual daters to keep people in the market longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:06 AM
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They do control who sees your photos and profile though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:13 AM
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I met my husband on a dating app but that doesn't mean I don't think dating apps are generally scams. Just because it's a scam overall doesn't mean it never works. It has to work just often enough to keep people buying but not so much they stop buying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:12 AM
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The parent comment here was about making enough to ensure the bills were covered though. Isn't that simply being responsible and thoughtful?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:09 PM
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Innate self doesn't just mean looks so this doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:28 PM
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So? Women generally value stability more than men. What is wrong with that? Many men would have less to complain about if they valued it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 04:38 PM
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Shouldn't everyone prefer date people who have the capacity to pay the bills when needed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:47 AM
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Most the videos i see posted of anything at this time is railgebait. Half of the posts about food, ragebait. Almost anything related to driving. Lots of workout content. At this point i think most of us are frankly too dumb to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:11 PM
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Don't get caught in certain places, so again, if you don't get nuance you will struggle while those who do get it don't find this hard at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 05:29 PM
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What does "truly socially acceptable" even mean? Very few things are so perfectly socially acceptable that you can engage with them anywhere any time any way you like without any judgement from others. You can't control the thoughts of others, ever. If you can't get any nuance you will likely struggle in all parts of social life, not just with women, just like the guy who pisses in socially questionable places.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 05:17 PM
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Pissing probably would be a better analogy. It's a totally normal body function you only do in societally acceptable spaces. Some spaces are 100 percent acceptable and some are 100 percent not acceptable. Some places are up to personal judgement but opinions can vary widely and you have to be ready for some people to disagree with your choices. Talking about pissing is the same too. You wouldn't just bring it up to random strangers in the check out at the grocery. You wouldn't make comments abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 05:01 PM
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There are lots of things that are normal to do but how accepted they are depends on the context of the situation. Eating is normal but if you're eating in a public bathroom people will get weirded out. In certain places everyone will be doing it and in others it's considered really rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:09 PM
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That's the point. You think not getting "enough" sex is bad try struggling to get any. The entire point of saying that is that the men complaining are going to complain no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:08 PM
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I never made any claims that men who succeed are better, they likely are full spectrum just like men who fail are. You're actually the one making all the assumptions and just made a bunch more. What people are all good or all bad? Men who make hate filled red pill rants might not be bad guys overall but they definitely make some shitty choices. There's no way a guy can follow hate content all day and seriously claim to be a "good guy". Nah bro, you're just a normal person like everyone else who …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:42 PM
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You are so self focused on your own pain that you can't even imagine others also experience pain or loneliness. Very rarely are people just going around looking for lonely men to hate on. Much more likely is lonely men group together on internet and say hateful shit and get less than empathetic responses. Absolutely nothing about the responses that pillers get to their rants are shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:37 PM
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That's not true plenty of rich people so things to try to make things better, unfortunately many don't. Sorta like in dating. It's a common assumption around here that successful men are all assholes, but it doesnt seem to be based on anything more than the fact the person claiming it would be more of an asshole if they felt like they could and still get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:09 PM
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You assume all people who have things you want but struggle to get are vapid? I'm not saying they can't be but that's a weird assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:07 PM
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That's a great example, it's just like that. Poor people who use their poorness as an excuse to hurt others are pretty universally looked down on by people of all income levesl. While ones who try to change the system or do nothing are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:43 PM
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Of course if affects people, why would anyone assume it wouldn't? What you choose to do with your pain does matter though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:06 PM
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Lets start talking about what the fuck is so wrong with our society that so many adult men can't accept the idea that super hot people have an easier time dating. Why wouldn't they? Do you also get upset and whine endlessly that smarter people got better scores on tests? That people who are good at sports made the sports teams? Who is teaching you that everyone will magically get a girl easily?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:50 PM
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It's about figuring out of your compatible. Being disingenuous and hiding who you really are only works for so long and leads to resentment when the other person finds out. The funniest part as noted in this OP is out also makes you resentful too, even though it was your choice all along. The thing about presenting as who you actually are is that some people won't want to spend extra time with you and that's ok because now you can spend your time finding the people who would actually want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:50 PM
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Fair. Spent time with some old school Italian women today and it's like they live in a totally different world. They expected men to treat them like princesses but then seemed to sorta hate the men too. It was like a trad nightmare. If i lived in a place where everyone was like that I'd be tempted to move. It was super fake and infuriating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:15 AM
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Nah they love seeing the real side so they know who to avoid and who to spend more time with. Clearly if you're talking about autism that's a separate issue and not simply issues experienced for being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:10 AM
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I totally agree with you but the person who doesn't care about their own happiness doesn't care about yours. You'll never be able to get them to understand because they don't care. They can't understated why you care and therefore think you're lying about the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:06 PM
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Some people don't even want happiness or compatibility though, they are the ones who rant about people who do want those things being too picky. Some people love to have shit to complain about instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:57 PM
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If you're compatible with nobody you may as well date anyone, even if you don't like them as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:00 PM
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Women repeatedly say they don't want to date men who perform for them. We just want to chat and get to know you, the real you. If you don't like your real self so much you feel the need to perform for people that's something only you yourself can fix. If you're so miserable to be around that people wouldn't like you if they knew the real you that's also not their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:46 PM
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Worldwide? Quite a bit. In the US in msny places feminism is losing ground, In some places they are solidifying legal protections (assuming the current system stands) . Does the fight only count if you're winning? Right now almost everyone but the billionaires are losing and some of the billionaires have done a great job of making us think other common folk are the enemy by pointing to random shit online. People are easier to manipulate than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:42 PM
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It doesn't matter what is actually done in the name of feminism anymore, if some girl online who may be feminist hurt your feelings it means feminism must burn. We're so cooked at this point it doesn't even matter anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:31 PM
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That seems like a total distortion of the statements i have read. What i see women claiming is that some men prefer to date young women because more experienced women won't tolerate his bullshit. Not all men who are attracted to much younger women are predatory but many men who only go after much younger women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 04:33 PM
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If she's talking about men who randomly approach her it doesn't sound like this had anything to do with her aim.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 04:20 PM
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So you're saying that if she were more attractive men wouldn't feel so entitled to her attention? That makes men seems so much more horrible but explains why so many less attractive women have vile experiences with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 12:42 PM
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A huge percentage of men don't care. The times I pointed out to them the obvious reasons we wouldn't be a good match they told me I was stupid and wrong. I still think being specific is the best way to go for most men and women though, gotta help the right ones find you. We know good matches for us exist out there, it's just a lot harder to find them on aps than it should be. It can be exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 12:33 PM
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Ahv yes because when you're assertive you have to take answer you get back. See, guys don't have to play these exhausting games of manipulation, they choose to because they can't handle the woman having any say in how it goes. Men basically complaining that they are the victims because they have to manipulate and lie to women to get shit out of them that they wouldn't want to give if there was honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 12:13 PM
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What do you think assertiveness is? Men and women in general would experience life improvements if they learned to be more assertive and less doormat/ manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:43 PM
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If you don't actually like the women being done with them might make more sense than twisting yourself into a puppet to impress them does
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:58 PM
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Your life will improve if you learn assertiveness. It beats this mind game, manipulation bullshit on every level. You don't have to stress yourself out playing emotional games if you learn assertiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:02 AM
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You don't need society's permission to learn to be assertive. Your life will improve without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:17 AM
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Men complain that women want assertive men then make every excuse they can to be the opposite. Yes you lack all leverage when you're a doormat
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:12 AM
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The answer is the same as when women complain about having to do emotional labor for men they are in relationships with, stop doing it. It doesn't benefit you or the relationship so its much better to learn to be assertive and set healthy boundaries instead. Trying to anticipate someone else's reaction to your behavior and making choices to control that response is stressful, but it's also not very effective. It's exhausting for you but also annoying to be on the receiving end on. I want a guy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:31 AM
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I was pointing out your fallacy by stating one that was equally silly. Do you have any factual academic evidence to backup your claim that... "Before invented speech, you would literally just size up your partner with your eyes and find them suitable or not, all the man made stuff is actually more superficial than liking someone for the way they look, beauty doesn't typically fade as much as people claim if you're bone development isn't poor, eat well, and take care of yourself." You do not
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:22 AM
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Yes, that was the entire fucking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:19 AM
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Many animal species reproduce through rape. Maybe rape is really the purest form of sex. The speed logic here is hilarious. Like i said previously if you're into looks primarily date people who are into looks primarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:59 PM
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What if they get in an accident and look different or age or gain some weight? Being only physically attracted sounds much more temporary.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:09 PM
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A man who respects himself isn't likely to get upset when someone disrespects him because his self worth isn't determined by the feelings of others. He's just going to keep looking until he finds a relationships where respect goes both ways. You can't control the reactions of others only your own actions. If someone is mean to you leave. If you don't like superficial women avoid dating them, they fit better with superficial men. Getting upset that people who you don't like exist sounds exhaustin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:43 PM
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Assertiveness is attractive, but i don't get this idea that it's anti feminist somehow. It's not the same as aggressiveness or being an asshole, learn the difference. It's a great skill to learn that will improve your life on all levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:47 PM
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Black and white thinkers can't get nuance of the conversation. They think that if i say i need more than physical looks to be turned on that means i will magically want to fuck ugly men. No, you're looks can still turn me off, just like your personality can.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:47 PM
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Women. "This is how i experience sexual attraction" Black Pill guy "no you don't, what you really like is..." Ok buddy, we'll I'll just keep having sex with people you think i don't find attractive then wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:29 PM
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Why do you even bother reading posts where men ask women what they experience if you're so certain you actually know women better than they know themselves? If yall want to fight over the small percentage of women who experience attraction in a way similar to most men go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:17 PM
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That's not what the question was though, the OP didn't ask does the person you have sex with have to meet a baseline of attractiveness. It's about women claiming that looking at male bodies doesn't turn them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:09 PM
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People can find their partners unattractive and still not have a dead bedroom. People can find their partners very attractive and still have a dead bedroom. Desire for sex can fade with zero link to how attractive someone finds their partner. The best thing about a dead bedroom is, if you hate it you can leave the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:08 PM
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Interacting with them, the back and forth, verbal plays a large role.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:22 AM
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We have plenty of imagination, we just imagine more verbal interaction while you guys imagine more physical interaction. Yall are just obsessed with seeing women as broken versions of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:20 AM
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I find men physically attractive. I don't get sexually turned on by simply looking at them but that doesn't mean i don't find men attractive. Sexual attraction just also requires interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:18 AM
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That's my entire point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 11:54 AM
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Dating is like this for most people older than college age. The better, more stable options tend to be in relationships so you get all the leftovers and toxic ones with only a few catches mixed in. They aren't necessarily common in the broader population but they are extremely common online dating. Whenever I'm single it seems like all the available men are toxic, then i partner up and hang out with couples more and most men seem stable again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:33 PM
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Context to a conversation always matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:41 PM
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Where are women just going around saying this randomly? Or is it in response to claims men make about women all wanting the same men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:33 PM
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Is this comment supposed to make the idea of forced relationships better somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:49 AM
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This is why this sub exists primarily. Many men just can't understand that most women experience personal sexual attraction in a totally different way than men do. I can find something sexy by realizing it/ they are sexy in a way that appeals to others but not to me personally. All sorts of sexy exist that i dont find personally arousing. Sexy and what i find sexually appealing for myself are different. No it doesn't mean there are just other reasons i dont want to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:31 AM
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No sexy is not the same as their sexual appeal to you. If it was the same there would only be one word.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:07 AM
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Yes. There takes some sort of sexual energy to the situation for actual attraction to exist for many of us. If it doesn't exist personal sexual attraction wont happen even if the guy is technically an attractive person. Its what most people mean when they say chemistry. Flirts tend to develop sexual chemistryv with a lot of people the rest of us don't so it's not happening with guys our friends are with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:06 AM
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Beautiful or pretty can exist without any sexiness or sensuality so it is different. Sexy can exist with pretty but it can also exist in someone who isn't particularly pretty. I've seen people reenact the exorcist is sexy/ erotic ways, while not looking"pretty" covered in fake vomit. Sexy is like a vibe and separate from wanting to have sex. The idea that you have to want to personally fuck everyone that is sexy is so foreign to me i can't even imagine it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:30 AM
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Threshold for me and most women just means sexual attraction could be possible, not that it exists. It doesn't matter if one part of the recipe is there if the other parts aren't it's not registering to me as sexually attractive to me. More like when you look at a family member and think i can see why other people would find you attractive but i feel nothing for you myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:19 AM
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Some of my friends have attractive husbands but that doesn't mean I'm personally attracted to them. Just like when i tell another woman she's sexy it doesn't mean that i want to have sex with her. Much of what causes attraction is sexual tension of some sort, if i had that with my friends partners that would mean there are major issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:04 AM
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If you think that 1 percent of married Afghan women not being in forced monogamous relationships means my argument is weak that's funny. 99 percent of them are in forced monogamous relationships that exist for the exact reason the OP is arguing about. Having to say it's unethical or gross implies that most people are too stupid to already know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:37 PM
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You do get that Afghanistan only like 1 percent of marriages aren't monogamous right? Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's most. The vast majority are forced into monogamous relationships not polygamous ones. It's not common at all even though allowed in the religion and laws. But I'm the context of this conversation the OP rant isnt talking about the need to control men, only the need to control women for the benefit of men so I'm not understanding what point you're trying to argue exactly…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:22 PM
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Please explain how forced monogamy to ensure that more men get access to women's bodies is different than treating women like property. What culture has forced monogamy that isn't based on religion? Also wouldn't polygamy be forced monogamy for the person being forced? It's not like the sister wives are allowed to take other partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:45 PM
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There is no forced monogamy for men, only the women. Or does that not count because women aren't actually people?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:03 PM
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Well yes, forced monogamy as it exists in places like Afghanistan is used to ration women to undesirable men. If men were forced into relationships they didn't want they would also consider it unfair. What these men are complaining about isn't women actually joining harems of really attractive men, it's that women are allowed to wait around a long as they want until they find someone they are attracted to. Most women who aren't settling down are still monogamous. Really they want to debate the u…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:42 PM
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What did this cost you? Why do you feel it was wasted energy? Where you only doing it to impress the women or because you actually felt it was right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:14 AM
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So if affordable daycare exists for lower income earners does that not also benefit the fathers? Or are we assuming that only mothers are financially responsible for their children by default? What do you mean by salary conditions? Like if women make the same for the same job that hurts men somehow? I'm still having a hard time understanding how men were injured here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:47 PM
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What load specifically? What have you done specifically to support women's causes that you regret? How much time did worrying about random women take from you? Do you feel this way about other issues? You have money to women's causes and now want the money back?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:42 PM
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Sounds great for prostitutes or people who are prostitute adjacent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:31 PM
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Can i ask how you were negatively affected by this societal expectation to behave yourself or support others? What behavior do you think society should praise in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:10 PM
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So just partners who don't want open relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:26 PM
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You see women wanting to open their relationships then getting jealous of all the girls her partner finds?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:04 PM
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Typically because that is what their parents, pastors, christian nationalist leaders tell them. Don't ask questions or you are the trouble maker, they are just looking out for your own best interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:49 PM
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Yes. If red pill worked we'd have all the evidence by now. It's been over a decade and it seems to be having the opposite effect if any on most of the guys eating up the content.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:31 PM
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Id say that's fair. We've spent at least 2 decades telling women they aren't worth less if they are single. Should be same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:18 PM
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But mistakes for one dating partner or employer aren't necessarily mistakes for another. Just looking at it like that is shooting yourself in the foot from the get go. If people sense youre performing or trying to please them too much many will get uncomfortable and leave. Some people find easy compatibility with many people and others struggle to find it with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:43 PM
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For some men it's really easy for others basically impossible. Not cheating only because you can't find a partner to cheat with isn't a really good argument to make about not being a cheater. Sounds more like you're a cheater but really bad at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:12 PM
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That's literally every therapy or bit of advice ever though. There really isn't one price of advice that works for everyone. You have to just try a bunch and see if any work for you or not. Not everyone has the same potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:50 PM
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There is some logic. The men i know who get rejected most often also get laid the most often. It's possible that many guys could benefit from exposure to reduce rejection sensitivity. However, if you are a really sensitive person or socially awkward by nature this might be a very bad idea. The idea that it's hotter is just stupid marketing shit, i don't think that's going to sell like they hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:13 PM
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Assertiveness is simply an attractive quality in anyone and doesn't require dominance or any alpha bullshit to exist. You don't need to be a bully or dominant personality to develop assertiveness. At it's core it's basically just "dont be a doormat". Learning assertiveness will help you in all aspects of life,not just dating, no matter what you gender is. For the rest. You have to live within the system you are in, not live as you wish it to be. Do i wish that we had a better system that evened …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:05 PM
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Idk, that sounds sorta funny and if they yell at you it's not scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:19 AM
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I don't actually want that, it was just an example of how much i don't like having to reject people in person. Like I'd rather be forced to chat with people online against my will than have to reject more people in person. I look approachable though, strangers love to talk to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:28 AM
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I would prefer mandatory online dating over being approached by more strangers. Having to reject people sucks, sucks more if they are likeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:23 PM
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So if men have more drive to have a woman and jump into serious relationships even faster how does that work with your OP? Is it just ok when men do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:20 PM
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If women pushed for rings why aren't the divorced women doing that though?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:49 PM
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I don't have any friends like this really because i don't have much in common with people like that. There are some at my work and they hang out with people who are like them. They date superficial men while my friends don't. You just gotta find the ones you align with, getting upset different sorts exist is pointless, just avoid dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:10 PM
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Men are statistically more likely to remarry sooner after a divorce than women are though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:29 PM
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If women typically have responsive sexual attraction that means lack of sexual desire in her part isn't caused by your looks, it's caused by her not feeling desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:56 AM
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Id say more that I've noticed men be babied than women being intentionally hurt by other women. If my husband and i go in for care for the same issue I get treated like an adult and he gets treated like he's a sweet helpless child. It's weird, we both note it and make fun of it. If i take him in with me I get treated nicer by everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:01 PM
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I'm into men, like actually into all of them not just their bodies. If you basically want a living blow up doll of a partner it might be you who actually isn't really into the other gender. If i experience arousal by men I'm still aroused by men. You can claim it's not real until you're blue in the face but it still exists. Thank God there are so many men out there who are more than just an attractive body and have more to offer than just their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:53 PM
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Nobody wants your jestering or jumping through hoops, we just want to be allowed to experience desire the way we do. No ammount of ranting at me about my straightness making me broken will make me get aroused by looking at a guy. It definitely doesn't mean I'm not into men. I still fantasize about men, just not in the correct way according to you. My being turned on by our interactions with each other is somehow wrong and not really attraction...ok i will just keep dating men i find attractive w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:43 PM
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But you think who you are is just your body? Is your entire personality false and just performance? I don't think this is what normal people experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:09 PM
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I find, in general, that physically superficial people tend to be the most fickle. Attraction ending because you got a new haircut or had a breakout is better? Why jump through so many hoops to keep someone fickle attracted? Why not spend your time finding someone who isn't fickle instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:28 PM
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Because you only experience attraction as a man does and think anything that isn't the exact same isn't really attraction. Most women just don't experience it like that ever. If you only want women who experience attraction by simply looking at a guy you're going to be limiting you dating pool to a really small percentage. Having your attraction be based on more than just looks doesn't mean the attraction doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:35 PM
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Most PEOPLE don't obsess about clean eating and intense workouts. If you want a partner like that regardless of gender it's going to be a pretty tight niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:23 PM
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No because dating profiles are terrible at telling if you'd be attracted after meeting. It's all just a guess and i just don't have enough free time to talk to every guy much less meet in person. It's much more likely that i never even saw him and just started talking to someone else first. You really think it's condescending ig someone finds you attractive when they meet you? That's weird
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:21 PM
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The reason they swipe on so few men is because there are so many more men than women on there. If it only take 6 swipes to get a date why would i keep going? How many conversations can a person handle at one time?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:27 AM
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What makes those guys bad in your mind? Are they bad because they are charming or have sex? You don't need to push boundaries to shoot your shot. Not taking chances doesn't make a person good just like taking chances doesn't make a person bad. This whole good bad thing is so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:28 PM
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If you're in a marriage and your partner just arbitrarily quits working without your buy in that's definitely major major. That's counseling for sure but definitely divorce worthy. How do men constantly take zero ownership for anything they but into?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:15 AM
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Some people have baggage that keeps them single, others have baggage that make them fuck a lot of people. People who need therapy come in all different sexual packaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:18 AM
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I desire clear communication, that doesn't mean I'm going to like what you communicate. I want to know what you're actually thinking so i know if i actually like you or if it's just the fake you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:16 PM
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Ifv you're ranting about the instructions provided for how to construct a chair you should be able to say what specifically was wrong with the instructions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:15 PM
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You are the one who derailedc of the OP. If the woman quits working and the man isn't ok with that why not file for divorce? That's a major issue to most people. But this is also more of a trad people thing, why are feminists to blame forgot trad shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:11 PM
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Ok. So a couple decides that if one person earns az lot they can afford the other to stay home and do childcare etc. How is them making this decision somehow something feminists are responsible for? I think most feminists would say it's a terrible risk/ idea so what is the point here exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:40 AM
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Do married women also earn more? There is a lot of missing context in your claim
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:43 PM
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Men can also take advantage of safe haven laws if they have a child they find they can't care for. Any child who is born both parents are responsible for their care and expenses, there is no getting out of child expenses except safe haven laws which exist to prevent child murder. There is no way to force another person into having a medical procedure against their will, you can offer to pay for her abortion if she accepts then that's great. Really if you want people to be more accepting of abort…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:01 PM
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Women are also forced to pay for children they have and abandon. They only get one extra option to get out of having a child in a small window of time in some places if they have money and access to medical procedures.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:23 PM
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But my point is how is that a different experience when different positions, location, the use of toys etc isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:45 PM
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Why would you need to make a post about a person saying something false? Why would you not just confront that person about their comment? Why would all feminists be responsible for the dating opinions of a single woman online who may or may not be a feminist? Clearly your posting this in order to start some debate or issue, what is your motivation?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:44 PM
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If you were just stating it as a fact without wanting to make it into something that requires debate and justification then sure. However, the fact you think it's something women need to justify and debate makes it appear to have misogynistic roots. It's just a really weird thing to want a gender to justify unless you have resentment or anger to that gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:57 PM
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It's not per se misogynistic to say that, but the idea that you think caring about money more is an issue with feminism makes it more likely. Why is it wrong to care about money and financial security more on average? Couldn't you just as easily say men should care more about the finances of their partners? Why is this seen by you as something women are doing wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:20 PM
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You have to have something attractive about you and the more that thing aligns with the type you want to attract the better. If you like superficial women who enjoy dressing up and being pampered then money and status are better to have. If you are into goth baddies that's not likely to help you as much. This is why fishing with a wide net often backfires. Sure you didn't turn anyone off but you also fail to ever spark anyone's interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:31 AM
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So if all different types of sex that use the same hole are the same experience why would having sex with a different person's hole be a new one? That just makes no sense. It's more likely that missionary in a bed with two different people would be really similar than comparing that to a completely different position or location.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:18 AM
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If you think sex is only 3 holes then i truly feel for your partners. I mean go back and reread my original comment, i did specifically mention a person who likes the novelty of new partners how does this not basically mean the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:19 AM
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You find out she's not into it fast so you can move on quickly to find a person who is down for it. You stop wasting time and effort lying and manipulating and focus on finding what you actuality want instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:57 PM
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If you don't know what being assertive means maybe you can watch youtube videos or something? Basically figure out what you want and communicate it to the other person. It's an attractive quality that makes it easier to get what you want but doesn't require manipulation or guessing what the other person wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:51 PM
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Orrrrr he could just learn to be assertive and prioritize his own needs without being a lying asshole. It will still get him a lot further than being a doormat but he won't have to totally abandon all morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:42 PM
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I was speaking of variety of sexual experiences not variety of partners. I did mention if you just want variety of partners LTRs aren't for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:31 PM
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Yeah because the only other option is models. K
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:28 PM
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It's funny, my less attractive friends actually get hit on more often because men think they will be desperate. Men project way too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:40 PM
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The overwhelming majority of people aren't ugly just like the majority of people who have casual sex aren't too 10 precent in looks. Its all just excuses
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:25 PM
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Someone can truly love you and just not really be into sex. It doesn't mean she settled or sees you as less than someone else, it can just mean sex isn't much of a thing for her at the moment. If you're unhappy with that you're totally justified to move on, just stop making shit about you that isn't necessarily about you. Not every interaction another person has with you is all about you. This mentality where you determine your worth based on what you imagine the woman thinks of you sets you up …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:02 AM
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Statistically the guy in the LTR is more likely to have much more sex and more variety than people not in LTRS. Even if most of the couples sexual encounters aren't particularly enthusiastic they still have way more opportunity to enthusiastic sex than someone not in a relationship. So many people leave relationships due to not having "enough" sex just to find that they get to have way less sex. Yes, making assumptions that you are being settled for just because you want different sex is wrong. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:50 AM
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Your advice isn't any better. Get a haircut that suits you? What does that even mean? Drinking with friends in the weekend is much more likely to result in a date than doing most hobbies. People in glass houses shouldn't give alternative shitty advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:55 PM
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Don't make relationships your goal is life advice, not dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:30 PM
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You said that if someone presents a piece of evidence and you cant dispute it then it stands, please present the piece of evidence and your claim and we will see if it stands
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:14 PM
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Present the evidence and your claim about it and we can see
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:51 PM
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It can be valid if what is says actually backs up what the person referencing it claims, which I have never seen on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:47 PM
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It also doesn't say what most people referencing it claim it says.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:46 PM
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Half of those magazines are about how to attract someone, how to keep a relationship happy etc. They might not have many articles explicitely talking about unhappily single women but they definitely do not just cater to the happily single crowd. I can't help but think this is just you seeing the articles that your algorithm thinks will annoy you more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:34 PM
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The problems with this mindset is how these spaces define "blue pillers" it is anyone who doesn't agree with redpill. That means it includes most women who do empathize with lonely men who struggle socially and also all of the naturally social, outgoing people with oodles of confidence who can't relate at all on any level about it. If you want empathy you have to look for it in places where people can relate to you a little bit. If you want empathy you have to be careful to leave out rants where…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:59 PM
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It's not all men that's women fear though. Nobody is afraid of the man in the next grocery line over. It's always fear or caution of men who want something from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:23 PM
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You think people don't seems up in abusive jobs or friendships regularly? It happens all the time. I just don't see any post ranting about what a failure someone who ended up working for a shit job is. Nobody says you deserve a terrible roommate or abusive boss because you weren't picky enough. Nobody's saying a person who signed a lease with a bad roommate doesn't deserve a good roommate in the future. This is such delusional bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:40 PM
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I didn't exactly say that. I do agree for the most part, but you can put effort into making your partner feel something good without turning it into anxiety ridden pressure for orgasm. Pleasure isn't an either or thing if the sex is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:48 AM
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I find it odd that in your rant all women are treated as if they are one entity while men come in distinct good and bad options. Say this is true (even though it obviously is not) how can people tell so perfectly who is good or bad? How many negative qualities does it take to qualify as bad? Are they only certain types of negative qualities, or will any negative characteristic do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:09 AM
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People don't become doormats because they date someone as an adult. You're just struggling so hard turn everything into gender war that the conversation doesn't even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:20 PM
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If women were really forcing men into being doormats they would find that behavior attractive and most the guys here would be dating. Being a doormat is a choice based on social fear no one gender causes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:05 PM
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If you think what I'm saying is "man up and stop complaining" then i think you don't understand what I'm talking about at all. I'm talking about the benefits of learning to be assertive and make decisions for yourself instead of being a doormat and trying to control people's emotions by guessing what they want to hear. My advice isn't just for men, it would also apply to women who do the same shit. Playing that game will just leave you anxious and stressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:34 PM
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If you had accomplished the task and truly become assertive it wouldn't bother you if someone else misinterpreted your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:15 PM
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Superficial people always think people who aren't are just pretending.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:43 PM
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The thing that needs solving is figuring out how to let go of the fear of offending others. Attempting to alter your behavior in an attempt to control the feelings of someone else is doormat mindset. High value people don't play all these games. They do whatever they feel is the right thing to do then let the other person decide how to feel about it. If there is a mismatch in personalities or communication styles the high value person simply moves on. Relationships with others aren't games you p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:48 AM
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The best sex I've ever had had always been when the guy wasn't focused on getting me there but instead focused on is enjoying the journey together. Focus on does this thing I'm doing feel good and not what can i do to get you off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:07 AM
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I never see comments like this because forums full of superficial people like that would annoy me. One of my coworkers who I'm pretty close with is 1st gen Italian and it's like going to another world to spend time with her family in their neighborhood. All the people there talk about is superficial shit like looks and money, it's like they live in a completely different world than my main group of friends who NEVER talk about such things. People who share interests tend to group together.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:57 AM
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If it were equally easy for men we would have over populated the planet millions of years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:31 PM
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People wouldn't give much of a fuck about mens attraction if they could all keep their "attraction" to themselves and not make it problems for others. Don't use you attraction as an excuse to make people who don't fit it feel bad. Don't use your attraction as an excuse to harass others. Don't use your attraction as an excuse to hurt others. Be your sexual self but keep it to yourself if you don't want comments back.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:44 PM
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So you just wanted to make a totally random comment on mine, ok then
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:35 PM
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I know many women who do not want dating to be transaction but they clearly don't speak for all women because I know another group who want relationships to be very transactional. Hourly reminder needed that all women are not the same person, some are way more superficial than other ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:39 PM
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In the decades that people often idolize what the perfect housewives were like yes, most women were offered amphetamines by their drs as a solution for weight loss, fatigue, depression. These were used very commonly just like barbiturates, valium and tranquilizers. People in the past didn't look down on drugs like we do now, they viewed them as progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:36 PM
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Old school red pill was basically pick up artist shit with more offensive packaging so that it got more attention. A lot of it was basically fake it till you make it, but with a helping of trash talking women. Repackaged self help to get guys over being so intimidated by women. Does redpill even really exist anymore? It seems to have been taken over by a bunch of semi political to very political feminist hate shit. As far as I see it now it's basically fodder to keep men mad at feminists so they…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:51 PM
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And most women were prescribed amphetamines.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:51 PM
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Of course, teleconference someone to their face is always worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:50 AM
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Women saying they don't want to be approached in certain places isn't dating advice, that could be part of the issue haha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:57 AM
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No i think your comment was meant for someone else because it didn't relate to what i said. Like i actually think there was a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:44 PM
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It's generally much easier to see someone as an option if they express interest in you, so that makes sense. If you want sex are you likely to pick someone showing zero interest over another person who's showing interest, of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:38 PM
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I think maybe you responded to the wrong person?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:34 PM
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Of course it can't be ruled out in every instance, but quite often women choose to have sex because they desire sex. It's not about the man as often as men like to imagine it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:32 PM
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They can definitely be separate but not carrying about women makes it more likely that you won't care what they think of your behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:30 PM
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Why would a good man get destroyed by a woman questioning his tone or intentions? Wouldn't he just have a conversation with her about it? Why would a good partner assume that there would never be any misunderstandings? This is weird
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:35 AM
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If you don't care about women, you won't care what they think of you so you will likely pursue sex a hell of a lot more than someone who is biting his nails worried about a possible rejection. The sexist asshole may have approached 100 women to get laid a few times, but the guy who is worried about rejection approached zero or one in that same amount of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:24 AM
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No matter how much people desire there to be one answer that works for everyone there just isn't. Finding a new hobby will work for a handful of people, but not all or even most. Going out more with friends will work for some people but not all. Dressing nicer and paying more attention to personal smell can work for some people but not all or most. Being more specific in a dating app profile can work for some. ETC ETC ETC Anyone who struggles with anything has to try out different solutions unti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:18 AM
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You really think that a group that tells you no matter what you do you are a loser is having compassion for you? If you fall in love you are a simp, if you aren't her first and only you are cuck, if you make more than her and not particularly hot you are beta bucks. It just seems like a bunch of men making each other feel like shit day in and day out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:04 PM
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Again, i said sex, not men. There is a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:31 AM
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Relationship doesn't mean only monogamy, she wanted a short term sexual relationship and had that. Men can see a woman and get sexually obsessed with getting her in a way that just doesn't happen to very many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:57 PM
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There are definitely women who work better with that sort of communication, they just tend to be harder to find since they also tend to be less social overall. I just want to be clear that I am not trying to trash anyone who suffers with these challenges, I have family members who do (male and female) and it's a real bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:09 PM
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Women generally want a relationship, men generally want women. The sexual drive between the two desires is just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:49 PM
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One of the biggest reasons to get married is for kids, if you have already decided not to have any there is a lot less reason to marry. Its hard to decide to have kids when you know they are likely to have a harder time economically than you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:58 PM
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I really like that doctors now (at least in my state) have to meet with teens alone to discuss options without parents getting involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:25 PM
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It depends on how capitalist you are, less future worker drones is bad for the future economy. A lot of people who want to outlaw abortion also want to outlaw birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:23 PM
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Yes. Again. Clear communication is great and a real bonus to having a healthy, lasting relationship. It's just not the only type of communication most people desire to have in relationship. Otherwise we'd all be jumping up and down at the idea of dating robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:35 PM
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Divorce rate have been falling in the US for some time but so has the birth rate. So many married couples now are deciding not to have kids or only have one. Is there any proof it's because of divorce? Teen births have dropped off a cliff the last decade, but is it because there is better birth control now or because teens are having much less sex overall?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:10 PM
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Explicit communicating is necessary to have but if it's the initial communication you're capable of it's gonna leave you with a hard time connecting with other people. Explicit communication is wonderful when used for conflict resolution, scheduling events, and business emails. Expecting it to be the answer for everything is weird
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:06 PM
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Based on how this is written this is so spot on to what i am imagining.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:51 PM
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Flirting is a petty reliable indicator of attraction for most women. Finding someone attractive doesn't mean the woman is going to want anything more necessarily. I can't think of any way you found out these women weren't attracted to you without extremely socially awkward conversations happening. Often when people flirt they want others to flirt back, not grill them on their attraction level.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:48 AM
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What resources? All these men out there paying the bills of women they are just starting to date? WTF
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:17 PM
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How are women extracting male resources and what should be done specifically to stop that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:57 PM
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Do you think you can win the gender war? what would that look like? Women losing the right to vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:56 PM
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People can wait for sex for issues like it's not a good week for sex, why would you assume its because they are using it for a power play?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:50 PM
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But again it is likely to be more about what's going on with her than about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:34 PM
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They pick a guy when they feel hormonal driven to pick one. They don't typically just wait around until someone hot enough shows up
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:29 PM
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The guys guys all seem to think that women will start humping up on a guy they find attractive if she feels "raw desire" even if the guy is showing no interest himself. They go on dates with women, express zero sexual interest then say she didn't have raw desire because she didn't offer him sex out of nowhere. Like sex isn't a chemistry between 2 people at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:19 PM
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It's not nearly as much about the guy as men want to believe it is. Women rarely get turned on by looking at a guy, much more often they just wake up in the mood that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:15 PM
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Why would the ideal man never get casual sex? Plenty of men that women want for relationships also had casual sex before. They aren't mutually exclusive in either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:42 PM
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Where does this wackass idea come from that more desired men are the ones who get flings? Every women i know who had a fling did so because she wanted to have a fling, it had way less to do with the guy than it did her hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:16 PM
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But isn't that just a reluctance to have children? You don't need to be single to not want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:00 AM
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The link you added about the single generation speaks to how singleness doesn't affect happiness. So if there are more single people now but their happiness scale is pretty similar to people who are coupled up then what is the cause for alarm? This entire argument is based on the idea that there is cause for alarm, what do you think the alarm is. If less people end up getting married what do you fear will happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:18 PM
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Statistically you are still more likely to come out financially ahead if you marry than if you go it alone. It's just a much bigger risk to both people if you choose to live on one income, for many extremely obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:11 PM
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Why do we continously pretend that marriage ending only creates financial issues for one person? Both people lose financially when a marriage fails. If one person has given up a career to care for the family you now have to temporarily support two households on one income. That's a major risk for both people but often the career giverupper loses more. Taking on an adult as a dependent is a financial risk, giving up your career as a sacrifice for a family that could abandon you is ahuge risk. Don…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:47 PM
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It's just black and white thinkers thinking black and white shit. Some people feel stifled when they are put in a box and given only one role to fill, others are comforted by it. The idea that you have to decide what you want to be for yourself and see if anyone else might like what you chose is terrifying for some people. These people want to be assigned a simple role that would be difficult to fail at playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:58 PM
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1 in 5 stay at home spouses are men now, should be more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:17 AM
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So the wife that earns more is the provider? Should more men give up their careers for family? I vote yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:15 AM
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You said one will provide more. Exactly how much more is required before a man becomes a provider?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:45 AM
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So at it takes to be labeled as a provider is earning a little more? What if that person earns a little more but does nothing else and lets all other burdens fall on their spouse? This metric is garbage. If your wife earns 10k more thar means she's "the provider"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:07 AM
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You really know a bunch of women who aren't expected to work and provide for themselves these days? I know very few families with a stay at home spouse and the ones i do know typically have enough kids that they can't afford daycare otherwise. It wasn't about the man playing provide, only about saving on child care. Everyone for the most part is a provider now, even in higher income locations both spouses typically work and provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:14 AM
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So men who aren't virgins also aren't wise? Is a man's value as a partner also based on having had a sexual relationship before?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:13 PM
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A woman who isn't a virgin can't have those qualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:50 PM
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If a non virgin mom wouldn't be a good role model for a daughter what does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:40 PM
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Slut shaming is at an all time low and yet young women are having less sex and the birth rate is falling. Go ahead and try to reverse shame them into having babies, maybe it will work this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:36 AM
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Please explain what the function of this would be
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:30 AM
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Shaming overall is not a positive. Making someone feel shitty about themselves pretty much never makes them make better decisions. Nobody is saying you need to like or agree with the behavior, but when you go around trash talking others it reflects more on your need to feel superior than it does on them. Putting others down to make yourself seem better is a bad look. I'd much rather date someone who says "sleeping around just isn't for me" than someone who gets off on putting others down.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:28 AM
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All couples should decide for themselves what they want to do, why would there need to be one rule for all couples?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:21 AM
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Why would they need to be the more reasonable ones if they just want to go about their day without being bothered? Wouldn't that just go both ways? Should the approachers also be more reasonable and understand some people will not like being approached?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:01 PM
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My question is, what changes for you if they view it more neutrally? Nothing changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:31 PM
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If you change a few minds what gets better for you? If you are going to get rejected either way why would the person thinking it was wrong you approached be so much worse than someone being neutral to it? The outcome to you is the same
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:04 PM
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No matter how women react many men will think (and say) it was wrong, so who cares? You can not control what other people think so why bother caring what they think?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:46 PM
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On today's episode of If You Dont Fuck Us We'll Take Your Rights Away.... You're example of the man who got locked down was Don Draper?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:42 PM
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If you want something from someone else you can't control how they are going to react when you communicate that to them. Imagine you're a plan handler, of course it would be nice is everyone was either willing to hand out money or be really polite about it but that's not really how people are. Some people hate being hassled and there's not much you can do about it. If you complain to them they will just say don't hassle anyone if you can't take rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:32 PM
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I think most women now are pretty fine dating someone who makes less than they do. I know quite a few dating women and none of them ever mention money as an issue unless the guy is basically unemployed. Now if you are into gold diggers and superficial women they definitely want higher incomes than ever before. I know a handful of these types and they always seem so miserable and never fulfilled. If you keep running into this sort of woman your picker might be off or you might live in the wrong n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:42 AM
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No their area of expertise is worrying about their patients.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:34 PM
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Is it morally a good thing that women are dying because drs are afraid of losing their license or going to jail to save them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:31 PM
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Because doctors can't be trusted to know what's best?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:24 PM
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If she's at the point of experiencing life threatening complications then long travel through areas without hospitals is just no biggie? But also yes there are laws making it illegal for her to seek such care in other places in some states. Abortions in later pregnancy are almost always wanted babies that we at major risk of suffering or killing the mother
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:19 PM
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So it's ok for women to lose their reproductive rights as long as it's done at a state level instead of a national one? Went should women in red states die of complications be ok just because I'm blue states that doesn't happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:08 PM
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You want her to value herself independently but also her entire worth is determined by her sexually experience? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:30 AM
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Some evidence, in flies, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:40 AM
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How do you know she's not lying about being a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:32 AM
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They exist to try to get equality and protect women's rights. It will stop being an equality movement when people stop trying to take women's rights away. Men can totally have their own equality movements when they need them and their rights are at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:03 AM
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Most often his laugh.i mean he can't be physically repulsive, but he can go from neutral to heck yeah with good laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:40 PM
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I can't figure out what youre trying to say here. Why can't you be a let's make things more fair for everybody person also support different groups advocating for different things? Doest that mean you just support multiple groups at the same time? It's not an eitherv or thing. You can support mens issues and women's issues at the same time. You can also be a feminist overall even if you disagree with some things some feminists believe. It's not all or nothing Actual agendas have to have a somewh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:32 PM
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Advocating for a group is adversarial? Unless you're advocating to remove someone else's rights or something a group advocating for themselves shouldn't hurt you or stop you from advocating for your issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:45 PM
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Avoidant relationships attachment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:47 PM
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That's not a gendered thing, that's a bully thing. Many men also abuse the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:35 PM
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Yes feminist organizations take action to protect women, since that's what they exist for. Feminists aren't the ones who think only women can raise children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:19 PM
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Most of the time the parent who wants 5050 gets it because that's the court preference in most of the US anyway. Either parent seeking more than that or for supervised has a fight on their hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:15 PM
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I know giver men and taker men. I know giver women and taker women. I think statistically i know more giver women than i do men, but not by a lot. I'm a giver, i used to feel used a lot until i started only spending time with other givers or neutral people. Reciprocal friends are awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:53 AM
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Depends on what your goal is. If you think it will make women who are bad in bed better that's extremely unlikely, if they cared they'd already put in effort. If you just want to make jokes about it then you'll have a lot of company since these jokes are really common. If you simply want to explain why you aren't into casual sex it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:48 PM
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Or they read a reddit post that has 40 comments that age with them and focus on the 4 comments that don't agree like they are the only opinions that exist.. They clearly just want something to be mad at.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:28 PM
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People are quickly losing the ability to think
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:07 PM
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This is the main problem with any discussion these days it doesn't matter what actual policy is, if someone who identifies as something says something dumb online it represents that entire genre now. People are just too dumb to exist in an online environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:26 PM
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Feminism doesn't mean that you think only women are ever treated unfairly, it exists to fight for them when they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:25 PM
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I feel like you are just describing vulnerable narcissists, which I notice are common in these parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:54 PM
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Just because I don't take someone up on an offer to go out doesn't mean they don't meet my standards. The majority of the time I turn someone down it's because I have something else going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:42 PM
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Here's the thing about advice, it doesn't' have to all reconcile with other advice. You just try different things and see if any of them work for you. Just because something works for one person doesn't mean it will work for you. Everyone has to experiment for themselves. This cant really be that hard of a concept can it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:04 PM
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Any parent can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:38 AM
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Having flirt doesn't mean the same thing as having game to approach strangers with sexual interest - you are the one only counting the masters. It doesn't mean you have to approach strangers at all. Say you are in a group of people and are chatting with a single woman you are interested in, it can be how you interact and laugh with her and sending a few interested glances. Having no flirt is the guy who gets a date and shows up talking and acting like he's on a job interview or talking with an u…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:57 PM
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Even if you had "statistics" from modern dating apps it wouldn't help anything because it doesn't account for how manipulated the apps are. They exist to make money, not to get you dates or good matches. If you aren't determined to be attractive in the first few hours or days of making a profile they are going to burry you ass, almost nobody is going to see you. Also how many of the women's profiles they account for are even real? When they release the demographics statistics are they discountin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:51 PM
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That was pretty much what my original comment was stating. Getting upset that the other sex doesn't think the way you do is fucking retarded. Doesn't matter if you are a man or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:31 PM
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Do you know any women in real life or is your total world experience with them from social media and red pill podcasts? Most women are just normal ass people who want other normal ass people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:28 PM
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You don't have to be some super confident flirty rockstar to have some. Men who express zero sexual interest and flirt will struggle 10 times harder than men who look just like them and bring none. Having no flirt is not common.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:25 PM
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It's the part about wanting women to want them without flirting, women don't typically work like that. If there is no flirtation then the attraction likely won't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:37 PM
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You don't know men who date women they don't really like?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:35 PM
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A small percentage of women can feel this way for very attractive men, many women never experience it. So the odds are super against you if that's what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:34 PM
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Women aren't aware that men experience attraction by simply looking at women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:32 PM
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Most women have responsive sexual attraction so if they never get any flirt from you they likely won't ever feel any attraction to you. Wanting otherwise is exactly what i said above.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:31 PM
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This is it. Men just really really want women to basically be men inside bodies with boobs. It drives men nuts that women don't experience sexual attraction the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:00 PM
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Men with degrees also look down on women with bad grammar, they will just fuck them while looking down on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:30 AM
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Playing a gender role doesn't usually so the minute the pertain you want to fuck walks away. If you're more comfortable playing a role than figuring out your authentic life it followers you everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:34 PM
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That's not a standard, that's just a choice. My husband spends more money on himself than anyone else in the family, my Mooney goes toward the household more. Marry a spender and they will spend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:12 PM
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I use my bonus to suport or family lifestyle too, that's not just a man thing. It's a reward for my hard work but i work so i can spend time with my family and improve our lives. That's also not a man only thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:45 PM
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It's always been easier for shy or socially anxious women to find dates than it is for shy or socially anxious men. I don't know that that automatically means easier overall because the stories i hear from these women about being targeted specifically by abusive predators doesn't sound nice either. I think socially awkward and anxious people could use more empathy from the general public about their struggles but its hard to have empathy if they go towards incel gender war hate women rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:40 PM
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And they get credit for now simply not oppressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:45 PM
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Are they really? I see so much content about men being obsessed with making money and having social power. Men are still turned on by money dynamics they just want to have the money and power themselves. It's all just superficial people doing superficial people shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:28 PM
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Is that bad? Right now a lot of men feel pressured to have relationships with women they don't really want, it's that really better? If it's not actually adding positives to your life why chase it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:24 PM
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How do you determine that it's ingrained and not socialized? And how do you determine that men don't care about status? Lots of men are turned on by the power dynamic of making more than she does, the lower status hot woman who they can more easily impress is a fantasy. Men can still be attracted due to status but sometimes in an opposite way. Men are conditioned to have power and status fantasies for themselves more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:20 PM
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Decentering shouldn't be a threat to relationships though. Decentering doesn't mean never experience sexual attraction and act on it, it means just don't base all the focus in your life on finding sexual relationships. Decentering doesn't mean swearing off. It means don't consider yourself a failure if you aren't in a relationship. It means give yourself more value than just being a partner to someone else. Just because a man isn't approaching women doesn't mean he's actually decentralized them …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:05 PM
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Most women aren't getting turned on by a guy because he makes money. Most women just don't want to date someone they have to be financially responsible for, you know, in that logical way you claim men use. So the men who allow their sexual attraction to override their logic brain about her finances are not classified as lizard brain to you? This men logical, women lizard shit is just so toxic and fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:50 AM
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Yeah unfortunately none of any of that is likely to happen in the US. They are working on lots of legislation to reduce access to birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:45 AM
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It doesn't have to be a separate law, depending on the situation it can be prosecuted as sexual assault just like stealthing, or fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:19 AM
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Id personally be ok with this if good birth control was affordable and easy to access same with abortion. Just because something exists doesn't mean that most people who need it are able to easily access it. There are places where abortion is technically legal but only people with money are able to access it due to availability and travel costs etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:18 AM
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You can already sue for this, problem is that like stealthing, it's often hard to prove actual fraud instead of simple birth control failure. Then you run into the issuesxl of money to fund the lawsuit and does the person you're suing have any assets. People with assets don't typically have unwanted children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:12 AM
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Too bad OP doesn't think like you and is confused about why sometimes people feel misled.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:51 PM
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Sure but if you lied to the woman why would you get bothered if she makes comments about feeling misled?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:39 PM
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I don't think the guys who do that are any different than the women who are into trad wife practices. Sometimes it's just easier to play a role than to actually be in charge of making decisions for yourself and owning the outcome. The more effort someone has to put into playing their role the more angry they seem to get at people who don't play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:48 PM
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Women talk all the time about hating swipe aps and the stats tends to back that up. Women tend to prefer to seek out relationships instead of hookups and if they do opt for a hookup it will be when they are feeling it. None of this is contradictory. May as well just rant that women aren't just men with tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:20 PM
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Raising children is simultaneously too important to leave to childcare professionals but also has no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:33 PM
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I did. Maybe you just didn't get my point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:30 PM
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Oh my bad, i though we got to choose who to marry, i didn't realize we had to marry a statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:38 PM
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The stats are skewed by stay at home partners. Again, why not simply avoid mating someone who doesn't work?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:45 PM
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Bit isn't it easier to survive retirement with 2 Pele having IRAs? I get not wanting to support a stay at home spouse but why does everyone here act like stay at home, no income women are the norm these days? Is this a location thing? Like do women not work in the deep south or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:42 PM
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If you want to be an active parent why wouldn't you just be an active parent? Why would you wait around for someone to "give" you the role? Being an active parent isn't default a woman's role that needs to be passed on to a man for him to participate. If you want to be a more active parent and you partner is trying not to let you wouldn't you have a talk with them about it? This seems like it would just snowball into a much bigger issue if not addressed. If you are a passive parent it's because …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:37 PM
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I think maybe you should talk to the people who actually work on these cases. Pretty much everything you spout is untrue in the majority of areas redditors live. What country and state are you talking about specifically? For example, it's not easy to get your ex's hours reduced, you have to have a significant change in circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:23 AM
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The majority of the time i see it mentioned it's in conversations about abortion. Many men want to see women who have sex, especially casual sex, suffer for it. Women need to be punished for having sex with babies. It's rare to see the comment made in any conversation that's not about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:18 AM
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You really think that visiting prostitutes was more socially acceptable in Victorian times? Plenty of people do it every day now without consequence. Visiting prostitutes in the past was extremely risky socially because stds couldnt be treated and could cause disfigurments that everyone could see. This is some rose tinted glasses shit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:38 PM
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Spreading bs like this is what causes so many men to just sign over full custody. So much terrible informative here. No it is not common for lawyers in the US to tell men not to try for custody. Unless maybe you are talking about full custody? A good lawyer would try to talk either gender or of trying for full custody because the odds are not good unless the other parent will simply agree. It's nearly impossible to get visitation removed from a parent of either gender who wants it. Unless the pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:34 PM
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Most parents who want it get 5050 time split or as close to as possible. Its extremely rare that only one parent would get the kids these days. And alimony is not forever, it's to help the non worker until they can get something going of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:26 PM
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Who constantly tells men this? If men were actually constantly told this i feel like id see it somewhere? Or are you just assuming that a woman who has a body count is promiscuous and loves casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 11:42 AM
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Where do you live that you can't order an escort from your phone? You don't even need to go out looking anymore. Access to prostitution is also easier now. Not to mention access to free porn and virtual interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 11:38 AM
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Yes, the generations since the invention of birth control have been more likely to only have children if they want them. Its harder to want them now even if you really like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 11:33 AM
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Statistically it's much more likely that the start at home ends up in poverty. That's likely worse than being parted with some money after a divorce. Im still not advocating that anyone play either role, both are very risky. Men are also more likely to remarry and faster than women if divorcing was so horrible for them is sorta weird that so many want to jump back in so quickly. /
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 11:29 AM
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Before that there were other reasons to have kids than for the kid's sake. Do you need more hands around the farm?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:43 AM
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When was it easy? What time period was that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:42 AM
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That is an answer of you have any reading comprehension. If you have a lot of other shit going for you the negative can get overlooked, for a bit anyway. If you don't really have any positive qualities your negative ones will be center stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:25 PM
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My neighbors had their first at 51. It wasn't their plan but they are the happiest most attentive parents I have ever seen. Never has a kid been more wanted. A lot of people have sorta shit or really shit parents who live a long ass time, can't tell me that is automatically better than this child's magical childhood with parents who are all in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:59 PM
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Having kids right now is a tough decision for generations you could pretty much assume the kids would have it better than you did. Can you say that now?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:07 PM
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If i had children i would of course warn them against being the only earner in a relationship due to financial risk but i would 10x warn them against being the stay at home side of the relationship. If the relationship goes bust it's always the low or no earner who suffers much more greatly. Always better to have a career and make a few years of payments than not have a career. Best interest of the child is most often believed by the courts to be 5050 split custody. It's not the 1980s anymore, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:03 PM
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Plenty of women "date down" financially. The assumption that non do and never will is what makes it weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:08 PM
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Right, and the people pushing the narrative that suddenly this is what they should be angry about know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:44 AM
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Getting laid had always been hard for men, right now its more accessible than almost all times in history. What didn't used to be hard was having a pension. Being able to afford both a car and insurance. Buying a home before your mid 40s. Graduating college without crippling debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:23 AM
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There were a number of years when young people angry about their bleak future stated getting mad at Wallstreet and billionaires and money in politics. If nothing was done there was no way the status quo could be maintained. Then suddenly all the content started getting pushed to gender war bait and reasons to hate immigrants. Anger is easy to sell and if you get them young all the better. This is the scapegoat generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:48 PM
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But i thought only modern women were formed off by desperation?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:37 PM
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It's not about censorship though. It's about having the right to have a decent job, get a mortgage, go to work without being harassed. Shit that actually matters in people's lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:46 PM
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Maybe some would but many of us would rejoice. Dating is so much easier when the person you are chatting with has his own standards, goals and life plans. So many guys are "open to anything". Doesn't send a great message that you are either too lazy to have any plans or so desperate that you will take anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:44 PM
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Isn't that what anti racism policies have always been though? it's not illegal to have the feelings you just can't actually use them to hurt people. In order to support certain politicians you have to not only have some racist thoughts but be willing to hurt people because of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:34 PM
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This is just how it works when money equal speech, big money donors get to own the message. The donors are always going to fund campaigns that support the most capitalist friendly candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:31 PM
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But then couldn't you use places like Iran to speak for how women's lives are?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:11 PM
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It's a pretty well known issue that people tend to gravitate toward relationships like they are used to. If you've grown up never experiencing someone being nice and loving to you experiencing it as an adult can feel foreign and fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:00 PM
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But you're entire premise is that men still have to do all these things all the time while women ditched their gender roles recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:51 PM
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Right but it doesn't just exist for you, it also exists for everyone who judges you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:08 AM
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No more villainized than the women are. So really it's the same. Women who make ignorant decisions get judged for the decisions and men who make ignorant comments get judged for the comments. If you don't realize that of course someone famous who has millions of women aware of him will get positive attention from some percentage of them no matter what that's ignorance. It could just be .0005 percent of the women who are aware of him and still look like a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:03 AM
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It's probably overrated but if you ignore it and something bad happens you should have listened to your gut. No matter what you do it will be wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:48 AM
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There are 1000 reasons for people today to feel less hope for the future than people the same age would have decades ago. It's hard to motivate yourself to go to college and collect massive debt when a lot of people you know who did never got good jobs from it. Even if they did get a "good" job they are still going to need roommates of some sort probably forever. Many people who work full time avoid going to the doctor because they can't afford to. The average age of a first time homebuyer is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:46 AM
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Teens are known for being rather hormone driven but a huge portion of both genders do grow up. If everyone thrived constantly on animal instincts we would have overpopulated the planet a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:38 AM
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It's shocking to you that she wouldn't feel uncomfortable with a person totally unlike anyone from the area in which she lived who hyperfocuses on programming? Simply both being Christian isn't a lot in common to work with unless you both make religion a primary focus in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:35 AM
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Of course it could never be that people from the hood are most comfortable with other people from the hood.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:29 AM
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Someone who is online calling others misogynist isn't likely the same person that's dating Chris Brown. This is taking all women are the same person to an extraordinary new level.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:27 AM
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Who said we've evolved past attraction? That's a new one
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:23 AM
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Why does a guy who has massive social clout, who is very attractive, and some think very talented get away with things non famous, normal looking, people can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:47 AM
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The group of people who banded together under that title started out as simply a group of involuntarily celibate people and then shifted into nothing but gender bait hate shit, so now the term is used to describe gender bait haters because that is where the groups went. Its sorta like how political parties can shift over time. You can cling to the values that party originally defined itself by or you can accept what they have become.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 12:17 AM
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I would say incel is a word that the definition has shifted. It originally was used to describe certain people but was taken over by a group who spew certain views. Now it is used to describe people who share those views regardless of whether or not they put their penis in other people sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 12:02 AM
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You can have hopes/ desires and you can make decisions on your own actions to try to make your desires come true. But if you are interacting with other people and expecting them to never change variables that is ignorant. Like you limit the chances of being massively disappointed in your friendship changing if you are friends with people who aren't flaky. If you are friending flaky people then getting upset because you expect more of friends that is just silly. But even if you are friends with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:01 PM
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Expectations are resentments in training. The more you expect your friendships to never change when their lives change the more you will experience resentment. Everyday you wake up you decide if that friendship or relationship still works well for you, if thing have changed and it no longer works well then it's likely time to move on. Certain times of life have more change than others. Teens and young adults experience life changes more often than people in their 50s tend to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:27 PM
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I have seen this work really well for men who make the transition from flirty friendship to asking her out, where it typically goes really bad is when the guy confesses his undying love one day totally out of the blue. Never ever confess your undying love to someone you aren't already in a relationship with, even then be cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:43 PM
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I don't agree with this. I have had to turn down friends who confessed their love for me and it was very stressful and I felt guilty because I liked them so much, just not like that. Just because you feel guilt over a situation doesn't mean you actually feel responsible or obligated or that you actually did anything wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:30 PM
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I'm not saying anything is defensible, but relationships change when people get partners. Its not like only opposite sex friends get dropped when people get partners, it happens all the time to all sorts of friends. Yes, people who do this often have shallow friendships. Shallow people come in all genders. The best way to avoid these issues is to learn to identify shallow people and avoid becoming friends or anything more with them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:26 PM
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Some people handle change better than others. Some people will get bent out of shape if a friendship changes no matter the cause. The same person who gets dramatic about something like this will also get dramatic about other changes. Avoid dramatic people if you don't want to deal with dramatic responses. A friend who gets upset that the friendship changes when their friend gets a new partner really isn't any different, just another person getting annoyed that something they were comfortable wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:32 PM
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50 precent of gen z are still virgins in their late 20s? That's a new stat i have never seen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:22 AM
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Only half of any generation is securely attached and prone to stable relationships so that would actuality be normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:20 AM
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He had to decide for himself if he wants to keep trying. I definitely think there are some people who are better off giving up for one reason or another. I don't think it's anywhere near most people who struggle, but some people just aren't really cut out for dating life. But they definitely have to figure that out either themselves or with a counselor or something. It's like someone looking for a job. There desperation for a job doesn't mean they are going to appear to be a good fit to any comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:27 PM
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Then he has to keep trying to figure out what the issue is or give up, i can't imagine why you'd think there was any other possibility. This is literally how life is for everyone. Do some people have near zero social issues and just glide through more easily, yeah but that doesn't mean lots of others men and women don't struggle and have to try to overcome their issues. Having more social issues than other fucking sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:13 PM
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Why would anyone know you are still learning? You think that any employees you had in your business that failed are just like awe that's ok that we lost our job, we get that you didn't really know what you're doing yet. You can not control how other people will see you, you either risk interacting with them anyway or you hermit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:07 PM
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This isn't a new thing, there has always been a percentage of men afraid to make moves or flirt because they fear rejection. The only part that is new is so many of those men gathering on the internet to collectively hate women over it. Do you guys ever read any books from past decades, watch movies, anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:59 PM
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Maybe you just aren't listening enough to people talk about business owners, there are a lot of people who think business owners in general are immoral pieces of something. Especially CEOs of larger corps, landlords, lawyers. I saw some videos yesterday about how many people hate veterinary companies. This might be a case of you only see what you click on
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:55 PM
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I'm not blaming men for anything, I'm just also not blanketly blaming women either. Most women have reactive sexual attraction, if they get zero sexual interest from a guy they are chatting with that guy just won't ever register as a sexual option. I'm not saying that men have to start randomly touching women or just going in for kisses but they have to learn some way to express sexual interest that works for them is they want sexual relationships. The only other option is to wait around hoping …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:46 PM
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The way to learn is still trial and error, even when there are consequences for making errors. Most successful business owners had previous businesses that failed. That doesn't mean there were no negative consequences from the failures, the difference is they are the ones who tried again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:40 PM
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If that was true, which it isn't since i know many women, it wouldn't change that it's their issue to deal with. You really think that the guys who successfully get in relationships magically have no misunderstandings or just guess what she wants to hear every time? No, they just don't care what she would prefer to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:36 PM
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If a specific man gets negative responses over and over from different people no matter what he tries either something is off that he's not aware of or his picker is broken and he repeatedly picks shiity people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:34 PM
1

I've had so many men talk about stuff like this with me before dating and while on dates. You don't have to just go for it and then get upset if you're wrong. What does it matter if someone thinks something badly of you if you are no longer dating? You expect everyone you talk to to always think of you the exact "right" way? That's not how people work. You can try to compensate with conversation, but there is no for sure bullet proof answer to dating with zero misunderstandings. They are people …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:32 PM
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If specific women think that then that is their issue to deal with. If they say something like that to you you just tell them you aren't a mind reader. This is how communication works in dating. A lot of men have open conversations with women about this stuff while dating so they don't have to guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:42 PM
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If you think all women think the exact same that's on you. Not expressing attraction is a choice, it might eventually work if you keep trying it, but if you want to have sex it is a really hard way to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:12 PM
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This is no different than other relationships though. One person wants their friends to do acb and the other wants xyz. We chat around until we find friends who are a good fit for us. You don't have to know ahead of time, just be willing to find out individual opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:10 PM
2

Yes we understand that you guys would like clear rules that spell out a path to sexual success. If that could happen it would but women aren't all the same person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:47 PM
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Women tend to have reactive sexual attraction. If they don't feel any attraction pointed at them they are unlikely to feel any attraction. Women aren't holding back because they simply don't want to, it's often that they won't feel anything. They go on the date and say "he was nice but there was no spark". It's not a punishment, it's just an extra natural struggle of being attracted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:45 PM
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One issue is that people think it's all or nothing. Women say they want consent and men think it means never express sexual attraction ever, even if on a date. I do think this is a problem for many men who struggle to get into relationships at all. I'm not sold that's the main reason people are having less sex as people in relationships are also having less sex. People have more ways to get their dopamine hit than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:13 PM
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No they dismiss it because they disagree with the policies, plenty of men also disagree with the policies. You just say it's all about feels to discount other opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:37 PM
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Assuming the friend is a full fledged adult it is up to him to manage his emotions about my relationship. If seeing me with someone else is upsetting to him it's probably best for him that he see it. He can either stay friends but get over me and crush on someone else instead or he can step away as he needs to be able to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:53 PM
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Is your point that you could transition and get laid? Cuz that is probably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:37 PM
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Yessss. Having a good personality doesn't mean being a good boy. Everyone knows the least liked kid in school was the most well behaved rule follower. Why would that magically flip when sex gets involved? I think those kids all grew up to become resentful incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:24 PM
2

ISIS also recruits women who they marry off to the lonely men. The promise of women is part of their sales package.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:12 PM
0

Yall look like 2 sides of the same coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:23 AM
1

Given how many redits, podcasts, youtube channels etc thrive on the male victimhood thing it seems like you guys have a lot of support for your victimized status, isn't it making it feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:35 AM
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Women suffering domestic violence hey shelters to help them avoid further injury. Is that what you want for men experiencing lack of dating pain? What wild that be? More public funding for mental Healthcare? Finding for spaces where they can meetup with each other? Could probably at least get the dems to support that. Its not like the women who suffer abusive relationships get programs to help them find better men, and I don't foresee anyone caring about that just like i can't imagine then suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:20 AM
2

This is the fucked part of cold approaching. 98 out of 100 times I'm cold approached i have something else going on relationshipwose and not open to any new options. It's usually not personal yet totally feels like it on the receiving end. It's a shit game to play unless you have thick ass skin
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:51 AM
2

You mention the first step in solving the problem, how do you imagine it could possibly be solved besides on an individual level?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:48 AM
6

It's easy for women who want casual sex, which most men want. So men would find it easy to be women dating as long as they were in the small percentage of women who want casual sex. Men really just wish women were like them. The world would have overpopulated millenia ago but wow would dating be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:45 AM
1

Is that why they get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:39 AM
3

What discourse would you expect to happen around this exactly? Like it's something new or weird?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:37 AM
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Even if 90 percent of women agreed with it being harder to get dates as a man, if they aren't dating you it won't matter or make you feel better. Agreeing doesn't mean they feel sympathy or feel is something that needs to be fixed by society. I think men have a harder time finding dates, i don't think that's an issue women have any responsibility for fixing. My opinion of the plight of men shouldnt impact how you feel about your own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 11:04 PM
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But dating that doesn't mean it's easy for women, that's where the men lose the rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:58 PM
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Now you're getting it. It's never going to actually make men feel better until men have the exact same experience. Therefore the entire "if women would just say it's easier for them to get dates" thing is bullshit. Unless all women were to say they have it super easy in dating and only men experience bad things in it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:57 PM
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Perhaps, if they aren't radicalized first.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:27 PM
1

Right because it isn't about simple agreement. It has to be agreement plus telling men that their assumptions about women's dating experience are correct as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:26 PM
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What do you see as scorn by the average female users here? Most of the responses i see to posts are just disagreeing without any scorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:23 PM
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Right because you are focusing on the comments that you want to and ignoring ones that don't upset you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:17 PM
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What the fuck is that rant even?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:13 PM
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So they are only allowed to be counted as agreeing attracting women is harder than men if they think it's virtually hopeless and totally out his contol at all? Well yeah then that's unlikely to happen very often. If that happened men would just say see women all hate is and want us to all just give up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:11 PM
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Dating has always been harder for men, why would anyone need to discuss it? It's not like there are any fixes society can do for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:05 PM
2

So? Plenty of men who come to this place are the exact same. Them existing and focusing the majority of their energy on women hating doesn't mean all men are like this. The grass grows where you water it if you focus on the people who disagree with you eventually that's all you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:01 PM
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People here constantly make posts judging women who have rape fantasies or read wierd romance books. Everyone is judged all the time, you choose whether or not to be bothered by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:55 PM
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Just because it's harder doesn't mean there aren't valid reasons why it's harder. Why would women having opinions on the reasons mean they don't agree that attracting women is harder?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:53 PM
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Women admit what i said all the time, meaning very often. They don't say that men always have everything harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:51 PM
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If you see women as more than bodies then why does it bother you of some people who don't even know you assume you don't? Wouldn't you just shrug and say nah that's not my issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:00 PM
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If you don't let us treat you in ways that make you very uncomfortable and often miserable them out makes us feel bad for ourselves? Something about that seems incredibl fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:58 PM
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On their own, no. But there is no denying that men who are lonely are much easier to radicalize to violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:47 PM
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How often does the conversation happen without the men adding that women must have so easy verbatim it's easier for them to sexually attract men? Yes. The context of conversions matters. Men experience struggles women generally don't and visa versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:43 PM
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Women freely admit it often when it's talked about without adding that all women have it "so easy." It's all the other shit added to the conversations that get women's hackles up. Men have a much harder time attracting women than the reverse. Many men assume that means women have it easy, but that's not most women's experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:39 PM
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If you need everyone to agree with you you'll be waiting forever and annoyed for no good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:34 PM
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Plenty of women admit all the time that finding dates is much harder for men. It's never made any men here feel better about their struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:54 PM
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That's pretty rare thinking I'm the progressive area I live in, but my family in other conservative areas have totally different experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:20 PM
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For me it has nothing to do with masculinity, i can get heavily into zesty men. The more I get access to how many men think the more wary I am. I know initial attraction doesn't mean much if after chatting for a few minutes i figure out that i will likely hate him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:16 PM
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All relationships get judged
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:35 PM
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It's funny how you think that focusing on that part of it makes it any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:32 PM
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Here's the thing about advice, you get to pick and choose what advice to try for yourself, it's not forced on you. I see lots of advice given that contradicts the ones you started above, if you'd rather try other things you should. Find what works for you. Getting upset that some people give advice you don't like seems like a ginormous time waste to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 03:28 PM
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Why do you think waiting for someone who adds to your life means you won't reciprocate?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:37 PM
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Women who hookup usually do it when they are very hormonal, it's rarely much about the men at all. The vast majority of the time most women do have a more demi view of relationships because that's where they are at in their cycles. It's not anywhere near as much about the guy as the guys like to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:48 AM
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Is it an either or thing though? Many people can love themselves while still loving others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:21 AM
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Are you new here? Beta bucks? Alfa widow? Most women can barely get turned on at all just by looking at a man so if you're relying on looks alone as a man you are going to have to be really attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:07 AM
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Just like you did most young women also grow up to realize that superficial things like height don't mean much in the end. The magic is that when they do that it's no longer seen as maturing it's now seen as settling and a sign she can't really like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:56 AM
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Always end up with a white guy unless they don't but then there will be another reason why her choice was terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:49 AM
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Yes times change attitudes about social issues yet people still remain people. The weird part is thinking this is something that only happens in women. Women aren't a different species.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:22 AM
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Niceness should matter for getting into a relationship, it's just not enough on is own with zero other positive qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:25 PM
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Correct, the shame is it only makes them less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:23 PM
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There are different attraction factors for relationships that aren't purely sexual. If he doesn't care about those other factors i just keep dating until i meet someone who does. There are other women who are better matches for a guy like that than i am.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:22 PM
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Non of my friends do this, even if they are helping in gymnastics poses they ask consent to touch first. She just had boundary violating friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:10 PM
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You sure that people in your parents time had less sex? Even the boomers used to get around a lot. How old are your parents? Up to 2 to 5 percent of women used to be prostitutes because that used to be more common, maybe you just have a distorted view of what it used to be like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:08 PM
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More partners than when? 60 years ago? 100?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:28 AM
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People have been having less sex and fewer partners overall when compared to the last few decades. Dating apps are used more now than they were 15 years ago so why is there so much less sex happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:01 AM
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Probably but I've asked this guy for more detail multiple times and he can't say anything more that "because it's cool!" So I'm not sure it's just the train driving that is the issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:59 AM
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So you are claiming that couples where both people work (the majority of marriages) that the people do no love each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:48 PM
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Right but the question wasn't would you freak out if you see men, it was are you comfortable running into one when you are completely isolated and alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:46 PM
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A father can also leave his baby at a fire station, safe haven laws aren't just for women, they are to save babies who are in danger. You just can't abandon a child at the fire station if the other parent wants custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:45 PM
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You can be technically right and still leave people feeling hurt. Hurt people tend to feel played, whether that's technically right or not. It's really hard to date without any feelings getting involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 12:48 PM
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Yes. All you have to do is bend the rhetoric a little bit one way and you will trigger some women to feel offended. If you twist it a bit the other way you can trigger men to feel offended. That's not strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 12:21 PM
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Some people want others to be one way, some people want them to be another way. The best bet is to figure out what you want to be and then find the people who agree most with you to spend time with. Then you won't give a fuck what some random person thinks you should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 12:15 PM
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If you are rich making someone who doesn't work is extra risk for both of you. Statistically if you divorce she will end up way worse off financially compared to the partner who had a career. If both partners are educated why wouldn't they both have decent jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 12:05 PM
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People see bears every day without being attacked. The thing just said bear, not polar bear which wild make that statement truer. I walked out on a porch to a cabin last year to find a bear on the other end of the porch, it was a little frightening but also really cool, don't feel the same way about strange men on my porch. The bear ran away because it didn't want anything to do with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:51 AM
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If this is about safety then you'd understand why the hospitals don't want to be involved. If some guy finds out he's not the dad and goes on a violent rampage they don't want it to be on their watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:42 AM
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Women can also get in legal trouble and go to jail for not paying child support. That's not gendered, men are just more likely to leave their kids, but not the only ones who do. We don't let any parents abandon their kids financially unless the child is adopted legally by others. Going to prison for not paying is extremely rare though. It doesn't typically happen when the person is just broke and can't pay, it's almost always when they hide money from the judge and repeatedly lie in court.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:36 AM
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The argument wasn't get locked in a cage with a man or a bear. It was of you were walking ALONE in the woods would you rather come across a strange man or a bear. It didn't say cuddle, fight, etc. Just see a bear or a strange man. If men didn't get it they wouldn't have to twist it into fighting a bear or being in a cage with a bear to make it sound worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:29 AM
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This topic and the reactions to it made everyone look dumber.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:24 AM
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This is like online dating as a women. You just gotta hope you'll feel some attraction in person, if not you get practice at turning down second dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 09:44 PM
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If that was happening why aren't they having more sex and more partners instead of less?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 09:34 PM
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My social, music fest friends live like this, it's not that it doesn't exist anymore. There are just more socially awkward people who don't leave their house now. I don't think any of my socially awkward friends would ever meet anyone if not for the internet. People weren't all getting laid back in your day, i know my uncle wasn't. Socially awkward people used to struggle then too but you rarely saw it because they were at home and there was no reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 09:27 PM
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It really isn't for anyone that doesn't know anything about it. I'm sure it's really cool to people who are into trains, people who aren't probably need you to use your words to explain to them what exactly makes that cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:46 PM
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So it's the conversation skills
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:08 PM
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It doesn't sound like you're just looking for a woman to date but looking for a woman who admires your job and thinks it's cool. Since women who are into trains are rare it will likely make finding her harder, but maybe that should help guide you in where to look? Or at least consider different ways to discuss it with someone who's not into trains to make the conversation less defensive. Like you wrote all this and i still have no idea what makes your job cool besides it pays well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:41 AM
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It's so weird how often trad shit gets pinnedc at feminists. Feminists are way more likely to want to split the bill than other women yet it's somehow always there fault .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:58 PM
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Nothing, they do it all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:15 AM
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When was it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:11 AM
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It would be an enormous privilege of the women were men. If we all wanted to get sex like men do it would be wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:10 AM
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Men have such a distorted idea of what dating is like for women. Most of my friends who are online dating are exhausted, not pumped up. Itcl takes a lot of time chatting up men who are just bullshiting along looking for whatever woman will fuck them first. Yes men get more aggressive negative. Women get men who don't even like them flattering them just for vagina. A whole lotta fake nice isn't actually nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:53 AM
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I think i got the most attention from adult men when i was in high school and i looked young for my age. I fucking hope my prime wasn't when i was 16 but looking 13. Gross
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:50 AM
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I guess i would want to know the definition of scared or worried. I don't have to fear you will actually kill me to fear having to interact with you. Having strangers want something from you can be stressful, even if they are nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:57 AM
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The people following it arent necessarily malicious but the ones programming bots to spread this gender rage bait are often malicious just like the people spamming reddit with anti immigrant and race baiting shit. That's why it intensifies so much during elections.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 11:14 PM
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Rage bait sells and it is obvious that a lot of grifters on platforms like youtube and tiktok use it to make money. It's also being used by people in power to keep us mad at each other so we don't start getting mad at what is really fucking up our lives like the destruction of the middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:17 PM
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Mostly PPD but there has been a major shift in reddit in general. There is so much more propaganda and bots fanning flames now. Much of the outrage is manufactured and I lose respect for people who eat it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:45 PM
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When I first started coming here about 12 years ago I agreed with men often, it still happens but less often. The conversations have shifted a lot over the years and most of the OPs are pretty crazy now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:38 PM
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It could be but it's extremely rare, and often really temporary. Again it's a valid concern for a man or woman who makes significantly more. Getting married to someone you make a lot more than is a much bigger risk to take. Being a stay at home wife is an even worse financial risk that should also be warned against.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:49 AM
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But alimony is not paid iff you make a few grand more. It's only 10 percent of divorces for reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:33 AM
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Most women also do both just fine, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. If alimony is a concern pick one of the vast majority who work?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 08:25 PM
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Because the odds of a man giving up his career to raise kids is really low. It's almost exclusively non working spouses who get alimony. If you dont want to pay just marry someone who works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 12:04 PM
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I don't come to a debate page for gender dynamics to debate, i just want to make comments and claim it's not debate. Weird troll
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:28 PM
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You might be in the wrong place of you aren't here to discuss pill topics
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:51 PM
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But it's typically because the women just don't feel the drive to escalate like men do not just because they refuse to for some reason. Half of the complaints here are really just men upset that women don't have the same sex drive they do. But if they did the world would have over populated millenia ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:23 PM
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There was still a lot of familial pressure to date and marry young through the 90s, it's not like the minute women were able to exist legally alone that families were ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:16 PM
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It's not like they simply refuse to initiate, unless they feel some attraction pointed towards them from the guy there is literally no desire created for them to initiate on. There is balance since they don't experience desire the same way men do. Very few women just look at a guy and feel desire, that's attpical. If we go on a date with you and it feels like we went out worth a relative meaning we felt zero sexual attraction from the guy than it's typical we will feel nothing and say something …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:12 PM
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Of course, everything is open to interpretation. It's all a spectrum and varies a bit from women to woman. The more childish your behavior the more mature you need to appear to make up for it. If your very thin, extremely clean shaven, have chubby cheaks, and dress like your mommy picked out your clothing it will be harder to get away with very innocent juvenile behavior. Behavior that seems childlike would be constantly seeking approval for behavior, asking permission for everything, inability …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 04:15 PM
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People obsess way too much about feminine or masculine blah blah. I've known men who wore dresses or makeup and got women. It's not about how masculine or feminine you are it's about women's sexual attraction and how it works. We are less likely to get turned on by looking at someone and typically have responsive sexually. It's not that we find men who are passive to be feminine or unattractive, we just rarely feel attraction of there is none pointed at us. We also don't typically come back afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:00 PM
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People who are judgmental and superficial don't tend to be people I enjoy spending time with so it's not generally an issue. With my friends it's more likely that Id say not to sell themselves short. Some of my coworkers tho, hoo dang it can be hard not to comment or make jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 09:57 PM
2

Being a doormat is a form of manipulation so it makes sense they'd view it as social competence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:42 PM
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Plenty of people who don't share their opinions have one, they admit it here all the time. If you spend time thinking about what the other person would like to hear that's the red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:22 PM
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It's not either or
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:18 PM
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The number one behavior id call out would be basing your decisions on what you think the other person would want to hear or react to in the way you want. Like if you calculate the reaction of the other person before expressing your own desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:40 AM
3

Being with someone who doesn't have express their own opinions and desires is only one way to have an empty feeling relationship. Doormats consider their behavior nice because they are so agreeable but they never date each other because they don't like that behavior turned back at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:27 AM
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You don't have to use someone to be annoyed by doormat behavior. What annoys people early on about doormats is usually that they just go along with everything all the time. They never offer up their own opinion either to not be offensive or because they don't even bother having one. It feels very disingenuous. Its much easier and more fulfilling to have a relationship with someone who has and knows at least some of their own desires. Very few people want relationships where their desires are con…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:06 AM
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You can be nice and be a doormat which is super unattractive or you can be nice and still be at least somewhat assertive which is generally attractive. Being nice isn't the issue, thinking you have to be a doormat in order to be nice will really fuck up your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:53 PM
8

I don't' think many people say this, all of the ones I am personally aware of were super shady and wanted to be able to hide things they were doing without being questioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 02:23 PM
3

Do you no longer have friends or everyone just got older and are busy a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 11:43 PM
4

It's not like only empathetic people have friends. Charismatic people tend to also have friends, or at least a lot of acquaintances and people to spend time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 10:56 PM
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