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Having insecurities doesn't make you an "insecure person" if you don't let them define you. I guess it's a matter of opinion though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 08:59 PM
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I agree that self-reported data needs to be approached with healthy skepticism, but if we don't allow people to be introspective on this sub, what's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 11:30 PM
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So true. GOD FORBID any woman act confidently enough that a man no longer feels like the top kid on the playground.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 11:29 PM
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So your wife being bad with directions means that she stopped maturing in her late teens? Do the things that you're bad at mean that you stopped maturing then too?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 10:33 PM
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...and in response to that topic, you wrote about an "unattractive" person (a beta) and said the opposite would be attractive/alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:54 PM
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Well I'm sorry that I took your very strict generalization to mean that you were strictly generalizing? I guess in the future I should try to fill in the blanks and put words in peoples' mouths on my own instead of replying... ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:45 PM
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I forgave grudges that I held for too long, I started crafting my own opinions (by reading, listening, and analyzing) instead of mimicking the people I liked or respected, I gained more confidence in my strengths (math and science), recognized what weaknesses I should work on (anger and stubbornness), diversifying my social circle by not refusing to see the good in people that may have different thoughts or values, I travelled, became more worldly and aware yeah, I'd say I've been doing a hell o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:40 PM
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wouldn't someone rather be with a person that has some insecurities? Doesn't that humanize them and make them more relatable? I certainly would prefer someone that admits to insecurities, but tries their best to not let them get in the way. In addition, everyone is confused in some ways, sometimes. Everyone either feigns confidence sometimes or is too dumb to not be aware of their own confusion. People have wishes and dreams that they're working on. It's kinda how we build up to real aspirations…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:33 PM
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If anything I think I matured even more exponentially in my late teens. I went to college, met new people, had new experiences, exposed myself to new ideas. I think I matured a hell of a lot more in my late teens and I"m still maturing in my early 20s. The whole thing about us not maturing after that age is BS. Individuals mature in all different ways. To make a statement that women stop maturing in their late teens is just ignorance that stems from prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:51 PM
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I see your shitpost and raise you an overly used movie reference
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:00 PM
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Maybe, but that would require criminals and the justice system to be more equal. Gangs would have to include more women while jurors found more women guilty, drug rings would have to employ more female members while judges gave them equal sentencing, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 04:36 PM
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An interesting idea subscribed!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 04:32 PM
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I guess nobody should believe anybody.... or at least, not without a level of skepticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 04:27 PM
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I'm sure that I will always want to spend time with my children (if I have them), but I've grown up watching my family members have great professional and home lives. I hope to emulate them and have my own success in and out of the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 04:26 PM
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this is the best comparison I've seen on the subject! thank you for explaining it better than I've ever read!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 03:15 AM
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Because I want things in life that require gasp venturing outside of the home. Cooking, cleaning, playing wife and mommy aren't the kinds of stimulation that I crave. It works for some people, but it would kill my soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 02:40 AM
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Sure they can...when given all true, important information. People can't make the right decisions for themselves if everything they know about a situation is a lie, tactic, or stimulation to get a certain response. Let me put this in a different way that maybe others could understand. If a woman lied and manipulated a man in order for him to marry her, then dumped him and took all his money, that would be damn shitty of her. But did she use mind control to get him to give her all these nice thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 10:37 PM
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female rape statistics are hate propaganda? That's a stretch
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 10:26 PM
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I meant that if, in order to achieve their goal of sleeping around as much as possible, the person lies, cheats, manipulates, and uses people, then that would be strange and wrong to me. I would go as far as to think that's potentially sociopathic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 10:23 PM
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It depends on what you want to do. If you want to be independent, live your own life, support yourself, and be seem as smarter, more logical, and competent --> men have the higher privilege and are more likely to succeed If you want to be able to do less work and supplement with looks and "feminine whiles" (not recommended) --> women are more likely to be successful I'd rather be an unattractive man because I value the mind over the physical and I think a man's mind is taken more seriously than …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 09:42 PM
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They don't believe my anecdotal evidence and I don't believe theirs. I also think that self reported data, especially when reported to friends, peers, or other people from which you may seek validation, is highly suspect and I'm extremely skeptical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:49 PM
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It depends on how it's done: Is it all fun, honest, and friendly? Does it hurt anyone? Is it all safe sex done with the consent of both parties? If yes, then I don't think it seems bad But on the other hand, it could be done as though a person was collecting things from other people, using them, and taking what they want. That would be bad in my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:46 PM
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If anything, women gaining more power and doing more in the world has improved society. More minds/ more people working for a better tomorrow= higher chance at a better tomorrow
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:33 PM
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I think he's an asshole and she's a champ! Good for her for not letting that make her feel bad. She shouldn't let stupid guys like that take her power over her own self esteem. I'm glad she shared it because it's very relatable (as an average woman) to fear never being good enough as a result of your physical features.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:27 PM
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Posting about the extremes of the other side doesn't make anyone look "more right" Neither side is represented solely by their extremists. Let's just all stick with that assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 04:10 PM
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Many of the places that I have lived haven't had large Indian populations, but I was good friends with a group of Indian people in college and the guys didn't seem to be having too hard of a time. I personally find exotic, darker skin attractive so I guess I haven't noticed a severe inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 03:18 PM
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We will overcome with pure willpower! and the occasional Xanax
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 03:13 PM
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The only things that have ever really bothered me have been replies or comments that have contained personal attacks. Especially those that have attacked me by calling me a slut, stupid woman, or filthy Jew. Those were removed, but they still were shitty. I didn't leap into bed and cry about it, but it just kinda sucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 03:12 PM
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Pretty much any woman that has gained her popularity as a result of artistic talent or writing/comedy: Tina, Amy P., Mindy, Chelsea, Amy S., Sarah silverman, Any other woman on SNL, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 02:49 PM
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Sure! I think advocates have brought up several inequalities that should be addressed (see the rest of the thread for examples). Anyone that fully believes that they can make a difference should tackle them. One of the biggest issues that I see with the MRM is their message and methods. Instead of building up their own ideas, they tear others down. Instead of advocating for their own rights, they challenge ones that were given to others. There are enough rights to go around and gaining more does…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:19 AM
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Feminism sees that society (as a whole) treats men better than everyone else. To promote equality, the solution has been to treat the others better and increase their rights. It would make little sense to make men a large focus of feminism if part of the philosophy is that men have the advantage. The point is to raise everyone else up to that level. Though, efforts by feminists have impacted men positively by increasing access to birth control and family planning, getting more women in the work …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:04 PM
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feminism doesn't frown on prostitution. Some feminists are against prostitution and some support it. I think that anyone should be able to buy and sell sex as long as it's legal, safe, regulated, and done by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 02:14 AM
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I meant that I was talking about end and not means.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 01:57 AM
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It doesn't matter what choice they've made. My point was on the end result of few women in power makes the female population a minority in political leadership. You're right. We could vote in women. Until then, women are a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:33 PM
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The are in terms of power. A huge majority of world leaders and elected officials are men. Minority can be used for numbers and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 03:46 AM
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I'm sorry you internalized that message. I think we have grown as a society enough to do our best to not make blanket statements like that about populations AND to not encourage suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 02:43 PM
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I meant move on to a new person because a person that would like you for being an asshole and not like you for being decent probably isn't the best choice. Being a decent human being is the baseline. It's up to us individually to make ourselves interesting, fun, and attractive enough to date. If you try to supplement with games and strategies instead of just becoming a more attractive option in terms of your attributes, that's kind of sad for the people you might date and for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 12:56 PM
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Almost 21, 2 relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 04:38 AM
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by the way you're acting, I wish I chose to use the Nazis, just to piss you off even more I'm done trying to make you feel better about this. I really don't care if you like my comparison or not. I've made my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 01:56 AM
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those are not serious, widely accepted claims made by feminists. Just like not all RPers believe "AWALT"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 01:53 AM
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you escalated this a lot I shouldn't be a selfish asshole because "it's not cool." Therefore if I want to preserve my "coolness" (at least as you perceive it), I should act as a "decent" person. I didn't mean the word "cool" in the same way I use it to describe my cousin's new fashionable hairstyle. I was trying to use a colloquialism to decrease the seriousness and the potential preachiness of my response. It's not cool = it's not something that would be generally considered to be acceptable be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 01:52 AM
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As I've already explained, I was using another minority that I fall into as a point for comparison. I'm jewish and a lot of people have bad things to say about jews. I used one of those groups to show how I feel about the things TRP says about another demographic that I fall into (I'm female). It's not about TRP being the KKK. It's about me being jewish and a woman. I don't know how many times I have to say that for you to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 01:30 AM
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Leftists and feminists don't systematically hate or target people based exclusively on gender, race, religion, or any other uncontrollable factors. The hate you perceive from those groups is based on ideas, words, and actions. They do not fit in with my comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 01:26 AM
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I hoped my analogy would make my feelings of being stereotyped by different groups for different uncontrollable factors easier to understand. I guess it didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 01:11 AM
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I said that I was using the comparison between a group that stereotypes me for being a woman and a group that stereotypes me for being Jewish. Being jewish and a woman are uncontrollable factors that I'm judged for by certain groups so it makes sense to compare them. Sorry that was not clear to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 01:09 AM
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Sure! Feminism is supposed to be inclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 12:56 AM
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I'm comparing people that dislike me for my life as a jew to those that dislike me for my life as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 12:11 AM
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complete selfishness of individuals will only hurt the group at large. I understand that RO doesn't care about the group, but it is still important to look at the big picture. Are wives and girlfriends not members of the group of people that RPers are closest to? Aren't they supposed to use these tactics on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 12:06 AM
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it is ludicrous, which is why I made it very clear that I used it specifically because I couldn't think of another comparison that would work. I'm open to other ideas for comparisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 12:04 AM
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I'm sorry that this comparison bothers you so much. I made every effort to show that I was using the comparison to my being another type of minority that groups tend to dislike. It wasn't about TRP being the KKK, it was about me being a Jew in a world where many people don't like Jews. I'm not saying that I'm "fighting the good fight" but TRP is a group that has protocols to treat a group in negative ways. Can you think of any other groups that target certain demographics with contempt, strategi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 11:27 PM
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It sounds like you chose to stop participating in fights (not exclusively TRP), made her insecure with your relationship (TRP), became more attractive (not exclusively TRP), made sex more fun and interesting for both of you (not exclusively TRP), and became a more active/ productive father+ husband
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 10:58 PM
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Feminism plays many roles today. A main difference is choosing to use the term or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 09:47 PM
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I'm glad that your marriage has improved. How did you used specific RP principles to improve it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 09:46 PM
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This is going to sound harsh, but hear me out: I'm against TRP in the same way I'm against racism. Is the TRP comparable to the KKK? No, but I'm just using the comparison to describe my reaction to it. In no way am I saying that RPers are as bad as racists or that they want to lynch women. I'm using this example because I'm Jewish and I wanted to make an analogy using that part of myself. Just wanted to make that clear I don't like the KKK. I think their views are outdated and not valuable for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 09:24 PM
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There are still feminists the are for and against porn. Those that are for it believe that a women using her sexuality as a job is her right. They also believe that the porn industry often mistreats the performers so regulation is needed. Those that are against porn believe that it shows an unrealistic version of sex (and lets admit, it does) and can be degrading to women and performers. These feminists believe that the industry and culture around porn are so broken that they cannot be changed f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 09:06 PM
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I agree that feminism needs to be "rebranded". All people see are the "crazies" that believe that all PIV sex is rape or that looking at a person is harassment. The weird ones are always the loudest and the most heard because people pay attention to them. More focus needs to be on the feminists that put underprivileged youth through school as opposed to the feminists that hold up signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 09:02 PM
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Feminism is for gender equality. Therefore achieving equal rights between genders (or for gender communities) is a goal of feminism. Just because it's called "feminism," doesn't mean it's purely for women. It may have started with the intentions of improving rights for women, but it has broadened it's horizons, while keeping the same name.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 08:59 PM
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If social science isn't real science, why are RP people always posting studies that they find from social science journals?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 08:53 PM
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Are you really comparing feminists to Nazis? You're really prepared to suggest that people that think the culture around gender needs to be changed are like the people that want to exterminate entire races? No sane, respected feminist ever says that all men should be gassed to death or lynched. You're ruining your argument by using that stupid comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 08:50 PM
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No, I don't think that feminism is dying. I think it's taking on other forms and being rebranded using other words. To be more specific: The idea that people should be treated equally regardless of gender isn't dying The fight for equal rights to education for boys and girls across the world isn't dying The fight against forced prostitution and human trafficking isn't dying The fight for LGBTQ equality and other "alternative" lifestyle rights isn't dying. The acceptance of women in male dominate…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 08:43 PM
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Aren't women sentenced less harshly for the same crimes specifically because society sees women as harmless, delicate beings that are incapable of bad things and underserving of punishment? I agree that that is a definite inequality that has to be addressed. It can be addressed either by sentencing women to the same punishments or by punishing men less harshly. I think it would make more sense to just punish people for the same crime in the same fashion. Yes, men are often the ones sent to jail …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 08:35 PM
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Not in my opinion. I can think of a huge list of people that I find very attractive, but that I don't want to have sex with. My dad is a very handsome man and I can see that he is much more attractive than my freinds' fathers, but I don't want to have sex with him My best friend is extremely beautiful and has legs a mile long, but I don't want to have sex with her George Clooney is a very attractive man, but I don't want to have sex with him Victoria's Secret Angels Amy Schumer the list goes on
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 08:27 PM
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So we shouldn't try to close a small gap in equality in the US because a larger gap exists somewhere else? Can we believe both need to happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 05:11 PM
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Why would that matter at all? it doesn't happen to me = I shouldn't care it happens? This is like the argument that a person in the developed world can't say that they're hungry because there are people starving in Africa. Other peoples' suffering doesn't invalidate the feelings of those that are more fortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 09:42 AM
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Benevolent sexism isn't the only problem. If just benevolent sexism was eliminated, traditional boys' club attitude would take over again and women would be kept out of science and politics just like they were before. If all sexism was eliminated and people could be judged based on their minds and abilities, i think there would be a greater possibility of equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 04:46 AM
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a lot of benevolent sexism is based in the thought that women shouldn't/can't do certain things like carry their own bags, work at a landfill, support their family financially, etc. Continuing to support benevolent sexism, supports the idea that women need special treatment because they are unable to do things for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 04:29 AM
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Actually no I wouldn't. First, people don't just punch each other in real life for talking shit as much as they do in movies. Second, I've actually been punched by a guy before for saying things he didn't like. He was drunk and we were at a college party. It actually wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Yeah it hurt and the dentist had to fix my tooth, but it kinda gave me confidence. It made me say "what's the worst thing that could happen? I get punched in the face for speaking my mind? Mka…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 03:58 AM
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I'd be willing to give up advantages in those areas for equal opportunity for education across the world, no honor killings, no forced prostitution/ sex trafficking, and other improvements.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 03:02 AM
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probably a lot more equal...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 02:57 AM
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I never said that I judged anybody that wants to change as not sincere. I said I would have a hard time blindly trusting a new personality that someone has created from a guide in order to get what they want. I said that it wouldn't be possible to know if such a drastic change is sincere so trusting it without a reason would be difficult for me. It would have to depend on the individual, but I have a hard time believing that drastic changes in personality are healthy or permanent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 02:06 AM
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I will always have an issue with making blanket statements about large groups of people. It's the same as prejudice and very unfair to the people in those groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 01:49 AM
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just because a difference isn't tangible, doesn't mean it's unimportant
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 01:09 AM
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Wrong. You live with them just fine Thats not true. The population that struggles with mental illness, anxiety, and emotional problems will agree with me. Men are not researching women's feelings. They are researching women's reactions. It doesn't matter why it works as long as it gets them into bed. I don't think we will come to a conclusion on this so I think we will just have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:55 PM
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I don't have an incentive to understand my own feelings? I have every incentive to understand my own feelings because I have to live with them. I have to know if I'm moody because I had a bad day or if I have low blood sugar. I have to understand if my sad feelings are a result of a fight I had with my mom or if I'm depressed and need therapy. I have much more of a reason to figure out my own feelings than a man has to figure out my feelings in order to screw me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:29 PM
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yet you believe you understand the feelings of others more than the people that have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:17 PM
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I don't believe that I'm as much a slave to my biology as TRP says I am. Even if I don't choose my feelings, I can be introspective to find from where they originate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:03 PM
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I agree with you that morality as payment to get into heaven is not true morality. In Judaism, there is no heaven, but they still support the idea that one should be good and moral because thats the right thing to do. I don't think it's the best comparison to TRP. The idealized view of the religion is that it's supposed help people and the world as a whole. TRP is supposed to get men what they want for their own selfish desires (as human as they may be).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:03 PM
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in this boxing analogy, the boxer has to change his style based on the opponent. If a person changed how they acted for every person they spoke to in order to get what they wanted, people would consider that person to be "fake" and not like them. I think a boxing analogy isn't the best to use here. It assumes that human interaction is a contest to be won, when I think it's something that should be treated very differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:40 PM
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почему мы говорим по-русский?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:35 PM
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could you explain why you think it's stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:28 PM
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I think we are looking at this "guide" in different ways. I'm imagining this as a book that someone reads and immediately starts speaking like the book tells them to. "if the woman says this, you say this". what I'm starting to understand is that you see it as a self-help book that encourages gradual improvement in confidence and social skills. Is that correct? If we are imagining different things, that would explain a part of our disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:24 PM
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I agree that a handshake in an informal, social situation feels abnormal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:16 PM
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it's hard for me to hear all of the conversations, but from what I can see, he's being friendly, outgoing, and funny. I did that when I approached my boyfriend for the first time. Does that make me a PUA?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:15 PM
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Isn't it society that gives the "pussy pass"? Who has more power in society? men or women? Isn't the "pussy pass" a cultural result of how women are viewed and treated by society? How do we fix it? Get men to stop giving the "pussy pass" and the women that rely on it will not be able to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:10 PM
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I agree that we need to defend and support all victims of domestic violence. I don't think it's too far fetched that criminals want to quiet the victims of their crimes. Powerful people just have more means of doing this. In a society where husbands are often more powerful/out-earning their wives, it makes sense that abusive husbands would have more ability to quiet their abused wives. It is NEVER okay to be violent with an SO, but it follows logically that those that are violent would do everyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:07 PM
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As long as it is regulated, I support it. I believe that it requires someone to be terminally ill, request verbally and in writing, physical and emotional tests, and time requirements. I'm okay with those regulations. I don't see why I could stop my dog from feeling the incredible pain that was caused by her incurable cancer and couldn't do the same for my grandmother.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:59 PM
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I agree. If someone was being genuine and became a better person on the inside as well, I'd be fine with it, but I would never be sure. How could we ever know? Parroting lines and pretending without actual change is where I draw the line. I consider that manipulation if it's just used to get what they want by using people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:43 PM
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I'm not trying to argue one guide over another. I'm arguing that genuinely changing for oneself on the inside and outside is preferable to portraying a change on just the outside. I understand that you could never be sure if someone changed inside and outside, but I would just hope for good things to come from good places. Obviously, we wouldn't know, but I wouldn't let myself blindly trust that change without good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:41 PM
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I'm not looking at this guide as the source of a new personality. I'm looking at it as a script to pretend to have a different personality. If they changed on the inside and outside, I wouldn't have a problem. to answer your question, I got my personality over a time of trial, error, self reflection, and the input of those I trust. Is that better than a book? Not necessarily, but at least I know I'm being genuine. I could never be sure with someone that was able to use a guide to change so quick…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:38 PM
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I disagree. If my boyfriend made me lasagna for dinner because he remembered that I told him it was my favorite on our first date (or some shit like that), I'd be more touched than if he made it for us just because he wanted it. It's the thought that counts to me. If he didn't put any thought into our relationship, and instead relied on a book of instructions, it wouldn't mean as much to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:35 PM
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To me, it's the difference between Robert Downey jr pretending to be Iron man and Actually being Iron Man. If it's all an act, why be with that person? It's the same as wanting to be with someone that actually loves me over someone that pretends to love me. I want his heart to be in the right place. Love on the outside and hate on the inside isn't enough for me to want to stay in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:29 PM
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With those assumptions, I'm inclined to agree with you more. If he improved himself for the purpose of being better for himself and not because he wanted to put on an act to get what he wants, I wouldn't have as much of an issue. I know it's impossible to know this, but I would feel better about using a guide if the "inside" changes are genuine. If he said something smooth and thought "yeah this will make her sleep with me; the book said so," I would consider that manipulation. The style and sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:24 PM
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I may have misunderstood the original question, but I read it with the idea that this guide was being used to be successful, get women, and get everything you can. I see religious people (at least the good ones) using religious texts to improve themselves within. This type of change would be genuine and permanent because it's not caused by greed or ambition, but by true belief. I see the hypothetical guide in the question to be about acquiring things for oneself for nothing more than superficial…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:02 AM
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I would only care if the guide influenced him to change who he was as a person. So advice on clothes, fitness, cars, and other superficial stuff wouldn't bother me. If the guide told him to parrot lines and jokes at me or to say or do certain things as though they were his ideas, I'd have a problem. Clothes don't make the man, the mind and actions do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 06:49 AM
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I think you're misinterpreting the responses to the post. Yes, women didn't like the idea of their SO having used a guide, but there could be other reasons that have nothing to do with the rejection of the "unnatural alpha" I answered that question and I said that I wouldn't want to be with that person anymore. Why? Because it meant that I fell in love with a guide and not the person. Because the person was using that guide while I was under the impression that things came from the heart (it's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:33 AM
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They think that giving something to someone means taking something from someone else. That doesn't have to be the case. There's enough rights for all of us!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 03:46 AM
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I would be heartbroken if I found that my boyfriend was doing this to me. I think he's so special and a great match for me. If our relationship was built on him lying to me and building the love that I have for him from manipulation, I'd never want to see him again. I would no longer be attracted to him because I would know that the things that I loved about him weren't really part of him. It would be like he has been acting in a play for the whole time. Sure he can show all of these emotions, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 11:31 PM
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Prestige isn't as big of a deal to me in others. I like to be ambitious and have goals for myself so it doesn't matter as much to me what my SO's standing is. I'd rather be confident and secure in my own independence and have a boyfriend that I adore than worry about my boyfriend's rank. Right now, I'm going into my senior year of college and my boyfriend just graduated. He's working at a non-profit and taking the LSATs soon. Could he have a better job? Maybe, but he's really interested in what …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 11:24 PM
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Good. I see no reason that consenting adults cannot be married in groups. (in terms of the US constitution) yeah yeah yeah divorce taxes and whatever. there will be ways to work around this my aunt used to work for a company that had offices in the middle east. they had to revamp health insurance benefits over there because some men had multiple wives. they made it work. When there is a need, we'll find a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 11:15 PM
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depends on the situation and the people. I'm not a very good texter because I have trouble keeping a conversation going that doesn't have a purpose. Talking for the sake of talking is boring to me. I don't really think it matters if you send two texts in a row. Unless you bring attention to it and say something like "you tired of me? am i bothering you?"etc it doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 11:09 PM
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I'd fully support this! well said!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 09:45 PM
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I just want people to be able to live their lives without their gender (or other non-earned attributes) being used to help or hurt them. I want people to walk down the street and be able to see attractive people of the opposite sex and not immediately think about how they'ed want to fuck them In practice, I try my best to treat everyone equally and understand my own bias in order to improve. I want to promote the idea that the mind is more valuable than anything else in a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 09:43 PM
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I don't really see the need to marry outside of government perks or religious belief. If you love someone, you can be with them. I don't know if I'll be married, but I want to be with someone long-term and maybe have kids. Changing names, signing papers, and eating cake are just superfluous sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 03:54 AM
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I think I didn't explain myself well enough in my quick reply. What I meant was that some people are asses about it and I see no reason to be. It wasn't specific to anyone in this thread or OP. Sorry for any confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 02:58 AM
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If I saw the point in arguing with you, I would, but it's obvious that I would be wasting my time. You obviously are too set on blaming women's progression for societies issues. Your attacks on my character and ideas on "the typical feminist" make me even less likely to want to debate with you. I was doing my best to be mature and have a decent discussion, but you don't have the same self restraint. From now on I'll just remember to not reply to your bullshit. Also, was it really necessary to ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 02:57 AM
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You're blowing this way out of proportion. Women being single mothers and men not marrying isn't that big of a deal. Certainly not worse than disease, famine, war, or a ton of other things that happen to society. There was single motherhood before and there always will be. Men fully participate in the creation of children so they should be held responsible for single motherhood as well. Why should we give a shit if men don't marry? Not a problem as far as I see it. Seems like a personal problem …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 02:06 AM
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I wasn't saying that you're being an ass about it. I'm saying that some people are. This isn't a message of support for gay marriage. It's a message of support for any marriage AND divorce. I don't understand why so many people post crap about divorce on here. Nothing anyone can do about it if people want to be divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 01:01 AM
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My thought is; Who cares? Of two people want to get married, they should. If one or both don't want to be married anymore, get a divorce. I think we should let people do what they want for themselves without being an ass about itwithout feeling the need to judge As for the study, I've seen better so I'm not convinced that it holds that much truth. Even if it is true, I don't see a reason to do or think differently. (edited for clarity)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 09:59 PM
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feminism doesn't hurt people. people hurt people. Just like with everything else. It depends on the person and their actions your example is ridiculous so I don't really know where youre going with it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 07:09 PM
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is this a serious answer? Just because a child gestated for 9months and was then shot out of your cunt hole does not grant you special time off. uh pregnancy has a huge impact on women in their life and body. It's not trivial Women shouldn't be in politics. As women should not have the right to make decisions and at the same time not take responsibility for said actions. you have a source or reason to support this claim? An Iud implant should be installed from their first period until they're 18…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 07:06 PM
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what a very mature, valuable response.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:56 PM
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So you're saying cheating should be illegal? That's incredibly unconstitutional. Men and women both cheat. Sex amongst consenting adults isn't a government concern (it's 2015). the spouse that makes more money usually pays during a divorce, yes. If a greater portion of women made more money than their husbands, more women would pay (just like my mom had to). Feminism doesn't have a belief that all men are abusive. some feminists believe that, though most disagree with extreme, sweeping statement…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:54 PM
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Equality like "no" fault, man fault, divorce the issues with the way divorce is executed aren't caused by feminism, they're caused by inherent sexism Equality like making adultery legal. what? adultery isn't a legal issue. It's a moral issue. The government (at least in the US) can't tell you who you can and can't have sex with VAWA flawed, could be improved Equality with the Bradley amendment that turned fatherhood into a crime punishable with life in prison or murder. fatherhood isn't a crime.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:39 PM
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Feminism doesn't have a rulebook. There is no "official" definition or code of ethics to follow. Like people that believe in TRP philosophy, some feminists do good in the name of feminism and some do "evil". People can be jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:22 PM
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it isn't the same as communism
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:19 PM
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This is a stupid question. You don't say anything else that describes the choices. Are they exactly the same other than their looks and salaries? This post is meant as a trap to push bad ideas about women and what they want. I'd rather have an SO that has a job, a passion, or something to do with their life. I'd also want to be attracted to my SO. I'm not going to choose money over attraction, but I'm also not going to choose attraction over ambition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:15 PM
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the idea that people should be equal and not treated in certain ways isn't a harmful philosophy. harm comes from people that take ideas and take action. Can actions be harmful? yes. Actions based on any philosophy can have consequences. That doesn't mean the idea as a whole needs to be wiped out. Some people help the poor in the name of their religion. Some people hurt others in the name of the same religion. Is it the religion's fault? no. people just make poor choices. in addition: I don't thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 03:25 PM
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Feminism is about equality. It may not seem that way to some, but that's what the point of it was when it was started. Some think the ideals have strayed and some feminists act in ways that show sexism against men. Just because it's called feminism, doesn't mean it's about valuing women over men. It's called that because at the time it was started, equality meant that women needed to catch up to men. It's a philosophy that people take to mean different things. It's very subjective, but I see it …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 03:19 PM
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Given the kids are closer with your husband, and want to stay with him, should he get main custody? Custody shouldn't be the child's decision. If both parents are capable, they should share. I was closer with my mom when my parents were divorced and didn't want to spend half my time with my dad, but they made me. I'm so glad custody was shared equally because it improved my relationship with both parents. So no, giving custody to only one parent (when both are capable) is not a good idea. I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 03:15 PM
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Also the post is about making men more attractive to women. "more" is assuming that it's not a zero to sixty kind of thing. People value attributes differently than others. It's about individual preference. I broke up with my last boyfriend because I realized that he wasn't funny and didn't show any emotion. It was exhausting trying to understand how things affected him because he never showed it. When I brought this up, he tried to tell me that he did feel these things, but didn't want to show …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 02:34 PM
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Agreed. My boyfriend is hilarious, which is something that made me want to spend more time with him and eventually become his girlfriend. He tells me when he's feeling upset, mad, etc and I'm able to help or make adjustments if I've caused him to feel those things. If he didn't tell me, how would I know what's going on?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 02:27 PM
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I agree with you. Not all RPW are the same, which is why I was very specific in explaining that I have issues with some RPW and not RPW as a philosophy. I don't like the people that use RPW ideals to be assholes to other people or other philosophies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 02:15 PM
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.... By people on drugs or that support that drug dealing lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 12:07 AM
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These things are so different. Acknowledging emotion: I really feel bad about this Whining: oh my goddd. this sucks, you suck, I hate my life...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:22 PM
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I used to feel that way as well. To combat that, I think it's better to say "I don't know that right now, but I think I can find the answer" or "I'm not sure, but this is how I could figure it out"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:00 PM
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I'm sure your face is fantastic! With eyes, a nose, and all that god stuff! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 10:55 PM
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THANK YOU! It's like talking to a brick wall sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 10:47 PM
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Wait. tomatostew says that men emoting is sexually attractive. I'm confused. Which is it? Do I emote, or not? could you at least try to be mature about this? I said that showing emotion is a positive. I didn't say cry every day at the beauty of the sunrise. Do I really have to spell out that humans should act human?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 10:41 PM
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the poster included in a comment that it can be gender inclusive and there's nothing in the original post about this having to be purely physical, sexual attraction. Attributes that are not about looks can also attract women. Valuable attributes can attract people, valuable attributes can attract men, valuable attributes can attract women. These are the valuable attributes that I think could be improved for more success.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 10:34 PM
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this is a stupid line of questioning a very simple and quickly-made list.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:34 PM
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Why would I like a man that didn't have the attributes that I value in all people? Aren't men people?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:32 PM
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woman-speak? are you kidding? Is it woman speak to dislike when people overemphasize the importance of the physical rather than the mental, social, or emotional? No I don't mean just not obviously bragging. I mean give more of a shit about your mind than your body
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:21 PM
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I wasn't talking about specifically being more attractive in the physical sense. I don't really care if you think this advice is bad. I like when people make me laugh and hate when people act like unemotional robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:17 PM
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obviously one would want to think someone they're dating is good looking, but thanks for turning that into something it wasnt. I'll edit it so you can understand
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:09 PM
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My grandma died this year and we were all expecting it as she had been sick my whole life. Now that I'm old enough to think about my future and who I might want to have it with, I asked her how she spent over 60 years with my grandpa. It was so simple to her, "He's my best friend. He's a good man." I took this to heart so marriage material to me is a man that I can say that about. Thats the most important thing Little things: also obviously I'd need to be attracted to him, he would need to be ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:07 PM
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I said too seriously. Yes, looks are important in attraction, but narcissism isn't. Yes, money is important in life, but selling your soul sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:54 PM
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When you don't know something, say "I don't know". this is so important!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:53 PM
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Later in my comment I added that being an ass is something I don't have tolerance for. I'm criticizing people for having a prejudice against people based on their sex life. I think racists are assholes even if they don't hurt black people. In the same way I think people that have contempt for people based on their sex lives are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:50 PM
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Quick things: don't be afraid to do things that make you "look stupid," silliness is fun don't act like a narcissist. Obviously people are attracted to hot people, but that doesn't mean hot people should be able to be asses about it. don't take your body too seriously. "I only eat clean because fat people are gross and I refuse to be a fatty"= not cool "I can carry a 350lb log, uphill, while it's on fire," --> I don't care. these numbers are uninteresting and just bragging. this is what I mean c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:43 PM
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feminism isn't a club or even a singular, cohesive movement because there are so many different interpretations. There are individuals that make decisions and act in ways due to feminist ideas, but this isn't one club. There aren't a set of commandments. there isn't a "feminism" bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:22 PM
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How do you know what RPW is saying about other women? they talk about it in open forums... Do you seek out people who disagree with you and then scold them for not being open minded? only if they pretend to be superior and act like assholes about it. Also this is a debate sub that specifically asked how I felt about RPW so I'm pretty justified in speaking up now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:21 PM
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Maybe you just shouldn't deck anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:32 AM
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Yeah yeah yeah I'm sure your view of feminism makes that ironic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:31 AM
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I think feminists would agree that different people like different things in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 01:33 AM
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Manipulation? where? the whole RP "game" bullshit Uhhh the already do? *some do so why are RP guys mad that some women just take advantage of these opportunities with men like some men take advantage of sex with women. Some could be "slutty" with their bodies and others, with their money. Nobody's fault if someone chooses to take advantage right? all playing the same game with different strengths right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 01:27 AM
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were you seriously expecting to get that kind of response?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 01:23 AM
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both get sex after the manipulation tactics trp is so proud of. nobody says that both walk out happy. The woman could end up miserable when she figures out she was played. They're good for busting nuts. what if these women took one from TRP and said "this is the world we live in. Women aren't trying to change the world or make betas alpha. So we take advantage of their assets. they're good for free money"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 01:05 AM
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would the same go for other RP guys that have been or might be "victims" of women taking advantage of opportunities? alimony, child custody, family planning, "feminist welfare state"? are those just fair game?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:58 AM
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I'd think that this girl has a kink and might like to be submissive in bed. I don't understand where you're going with this, though. Hearing one sentence doesn't tell you a person's whole life story.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:46 AM
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so it's okay for you to take advantage of "sluttery," but women taking advantage of "beta bucks" pisses you off?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:44 AM
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since when is "gross" a word used only by children and feminists? Why are you criticizing word choice, rather than debating?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:42 AM
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slut shaming, bullying, and other mistreatment aren't limited to internet interactions
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:36 AM
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to be specific, the topic was about TBP's issue with RPW and not issues with TBP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:19 AM
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I think the subs are both bad in different ways. TBP has contempt for TRP and RPW because of the way they treat others, while TRP and RPW have contempt for TBP because of the way they treat themselves. I can agree with one more than the other here. edited because of more thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:11 AM
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I don't read it, but I just don't see how it could benefit anyone to have this amount of disdain for people based on their sexual history. It's kind of sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:07 AM
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well obviously you and I have different opinions on what being a feminist means. To me, my feminism means that I support peoples' rights to live how they want without being forced into certain things due to gender
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:54 PM
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Just not cool, man. Why do people feel the need to be assholes to each other for making decisions that have no effects on anyone but themselves. I don't have ill feelings toward RPW, yet the philosophy calls me a slut because I've had sex. Seems kinda shitty to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:52 PM
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so everyone that isn't a RPW is a "filthy slut" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:42 PM
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"should" is subjective. People can live different lives and that's okay
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:41 PM
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I'm a feminist so I think anyone should have the freedom to live exactly as they see fit. The only problem I might have with some RPW is that they put down women that don't choose to live like they do. Life motto: You do you, but don't be an ass about it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:39 PM
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There is something wrong with calling people that live differently than you do "filthy sluts," though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 11:37 PM
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I would only be in a relationship with someone that I respect and that respects me. In addition, I respect both of us enough to believe that neither's happiness is the most important thing and that both deserve as much happiness as possible. They should have what they want and I should have what I want. We both need what we need and that can be accomplished in an equal relationship. To me: I love someone =/= I'm going to sacrifice everything for them I love myself as well. If I love someone, of …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 03:59 PM
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I'll write about it in my memoirs
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 02:44 PM
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Haha I wish! I'd do it just for the tiny chance that some of his talent would rub off on me!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:07 AM
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2.5 - the .5 is a weird story
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 03:25 AM
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I like to understand the other side and their arguments, views, etc I like to argue, think, research and be creative also... it's actually kinda funny cuz I lurk and comment before I workout. I do better when I'm thinking passionately
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 12:35 AM
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I've been with my boyfriend for almost 8 months and we have always just paid our own way. It's that simple. There is no "should". A couple can just figure out what works for them and meets their wants and needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 02:26 AM
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I'm not sure what kind of relationships you have seen, but I think I've come across many examples of equality in relationships (including my own LTR). An equal dynamic doesn't have to mean exactly equal money, time, work, etc. It can mean that both people are providing value that they each recognize as an equal input.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 02:06 AM
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If you ask for prominent feminists, they don't really fall under the category of women you haven't heard of. Barbara Walters, Emma Watson, Maya Angelou (now no longer living), and a bunch of others. You can just look up famous feminists and pick out the ones that people haven't decided are not "sane" When I wrote the comment, I meant women like my aunt who got her MBA at Wharton and has a great job, or the principle of the high school I went to who educated and supported young women for many yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 12:10 AM
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Who embodies the sane, rational, intelligent brand of Feminism? a ton of women you've never heard of You've never heard of these sane, rational, intelligent feminists because they don't make good news stories or circlejerks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 03:14 AM
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Try to stay calm! I know it's hard because common sense is rarely found in the wild. Hopefully, if we let it thrive, it will procreate!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 12:06 PM
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It depends on the individual. Why does there always have to be a competition between men and women? Can't it depend on the person, the situation, or anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 04:42 AM
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I think we can all rely on our abilities to be logical in the progression of our species now. This isn't a reason to keep people in marriages when they want to end their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 01:11 AM
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I understand that in that time a wife was basically a sex slave. I'm saying that shouldn't be the argument now. In more recent years, marriage has been a consensual partnership and husbands haven't relied on raping their wives to prevent war.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 12:52 AM
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thats a (poor) argument for a sex slave, not a marriage also masturbation exists
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 12:27 AM
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I think you put WAY too much emphasis on the power of marriage in the development of society. I'd argue that innovation, learning, and science have been more important, but I don't think a debate of this kind would change any opinions. I'll agree to disagree on that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 08:38 PM
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I said nothing about that, but I don't think that's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 08:36 PM
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how is marriage the cornerstone of civilization? all western people that go into marriage know what divorce is and many know that 50% end in divorce. Everyone knows they have a chance of divorce, but they do it anyway. This isn't a contract in the business sense, it's a human, emotional relationship that can't be restricted by signing a piece of paper
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 04:03 PM
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the government shouldn't be involved in marriage or divorce. I don't think the relationships between adults are any of the government's business. Child custody, support, and property have to do with claiming responsibility or ownership, which I don't have an issue with the government being involved in. I don't think it's currently being executed in the best way possible, but it's probably in the best interest of the people to have laws about it. Constitutional means "in relation to the constitut…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 03:30 PM
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Why wouldn't you make divorce easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 02:14 PM
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By the constitutional part I mean that there should not be a law in place that prevents anyone who wants a divorce from obtaining one. In the religious sense, marriage is an eternal contract, but the law cannot and should not consider it or make it an unbreakable (or difficult to break) contract. All I'm saying is that the government shouldn't be able to decide what are decent reasons to get divorced and attach rights to them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 01:17 PM
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I actually think that it's a good idea to legalize prostitution as long as it's strictly regulated. I was just trying to explain the other side that would be hesitant or against legalization. I can't this Saturday because I will be on vacation. Can't wait to read it later though!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 11:43 AM
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It doesn't have to do with fault. I just don't see a good reason to make divorce hard to obtain. It takes two people to create a marriage relationship so if one doesn't want it to continue, they should be able to end it. I'm not talking about rewards or money or even kids here. If you can't legally sign an eternal contract, why should the law prevent the termination of a marriage contract? I'm talking about the law here and not the "sacred" idea of marriage. It would be unconstitutional to restr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 04:14 AM
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If you don't have to be married to have kids, how should you have to stay married in order to keep them? Kids and marriage aren't as connected as they might seem. I'm still confused about the trapping people into staying together thing? How would this be constitutional (in the U.S.) or sane? How and why would you force someone to stay married to someone if they don't want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 03:45 AM
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feminists don't all share the same opinion on this. Some believe that it should happen because women should be able to use their bodies as they see fit. Others oppose it because it could be unsafe for people and could take advantage of poor women. Imagine if it were legal to sell your organs for easy money. A ton of poor people would be in the hospital getting a kidney taken out because they're in greater need. The worry is that the same thing would happen, but for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 03:01 AM
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don't you think that's too broad a topic? could you try to break it down into categories: reproductive rights, equal wages, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 02:56 AM
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I don't think either deserves full custody if both are capable to share custody. Divorce is a different matter. Fault or no fault, if both people aren't united in a decision to continue the relationship, the party that wants to end it should have the right to do so. As far as custody and money... there's a flawed system in play
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 02:48 AM
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I agree that the government really shouldn't be sticking their nose in relationships between consenting adults. Though there are things like joint filing of taxes that could be of interest to people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 11:49 PM
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Why should you relinquish custody if you want a divorce? Children aren't bound to the relationship of their parents, they're bound to the people. Why should people have to give up their kids if they don't want to spend the rest of their lives with someone they don't love anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 11:44 PM
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Also people can choose to not be dicks about it. My parents had an agreement that my mom would only pay my dad alimony until I (the youngest child) graduated high school. A lot of what could be wrong with the law are the people that are the type to use it to hurt people. Bad people are bad
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 03:09 PM
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I agree that it's mutually beneficial but I also believe that someone shouldn't have to stay in a marriage if they don't want to
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 11:35 AM
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How is it even statistically possible for the vast majority of women to marry up? If people get married between 20 and 30 years old, they haven't really gotten a chance to build up their worth so we would have to be going by the status that they were "born into". For the stats to work out, the women would have to have been born below all these men. That makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:55 AM
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I don't see how these are specific to women the more people that participate in raising kids, the better (and easier) having an SO makes having more children easier people in relationships have more regular sex than people out of relationships. A healthy, steady relationship will have more sex in it than a single life companionship is good for everyone dual income benefits both involved having someone to love, cherish, and honor is something that could be good for anyone in a marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:48 AM
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Yeah I hear you but I don't believe that you are all together in your mastery of frame. Also it's just a personal preference that I like to be with people that aren't "smooth". One of the first things that attracted me to my SO was that he was kinda quiet and awkward around the group at first then warmed up. The point is that TRP guys don't all get together and practice their "craft" so I'm nit super confident that individuals are as good as they say they are. I just can't buy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 04:49 AM
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Thats what I'm talking about though: the "frame". Usually I'm very outgoing and can be funny and sassy so I'd notice someone's reactions feeling scripted
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 03:51 AM
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from all the information I've read about TRP, I can make the educated guess that I'd be able to differentiate a RP guy from a different one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 03:29 AM
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So to accept that this is a bad thing, I'll have to be convinced by this blogger's flimsy evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:29 AM
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Why exactly is it bad that birth rates may be decreasing? Why is that a reason to not like feminism? There are both men and women that don't want to make children so why does the statistic reflect poorly on women? Because they are the ones that actually have a womb? who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:55 PM
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why ya gotta troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 12:29 AM
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not as much your sexuality as your desire to harm and violate someone that disagrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 12:21 AM
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I've learned that I will never have such little respect for myself that I will let someone else treat me in a way that makes me feel small.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 12:19 AM
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I've learned how to identify people, with whom, I will try to avoid relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 07:43 PM
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Wow.... this might be the most horrible thing I've read on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 07:41 PM
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I'm fine with my vagina. I don't really think anybody's genitals are "pretty" because I think they are all weird looking. I think mine are normal and I wouldn't change anything. I do have a routine that I keep to clean up my pubic hair region, but that's mostly out of personal preference. I think my genitals are average in comparison to other vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 01:17 AM
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My mom's side of the family operates like this. My grandmother got pregnant at 17, got married, and had 3 kids but 23. She went back to school, got her PHD, and worked in finance. She and her husband had 3 daughters together. Then she and her husband split sometime later and he moved on to CA, where he had his second, third, and fourth marriages. Grandma remarried and was with her second husband for the last 35 years before he died. He worked in sales so she made more than he did as well. All 3 …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 01:48 AM
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If a person can readily come up to exceptions to a rule (with little thinking or effort), it must not be a very good rule...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 03:40 PM
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It's not about "safe spaces" it's about consciously choosing to play someone that's being genuine. Why be an ass when you could be something else? I'm not saying you have to be kind, just try not to be unkind
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 06:29 AM
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this is a great reply! It kind of made me think of a person sitting at a bar, minding their own business, when another person comes out of nowhere and tackles them. 1: "What the hell?! My legs are broken and my lung is punctured" 2: "We're playing football and you lost. You should have known better than to come out without your pads on"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 04:39 AM
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We should all be able to make our own choices (generally) manipulating people causes them to behave in a certain way or do things that they may not have chosen for themselves otherwise so manipulation is just a mind game that takes away or decreases someone's ability to make their own choices and that's not cool, man
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 04:27 AM
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I think this question is somewhat flawed. It cannot be answered because TBP isn't a group or a way of life, but the absence of TRP. There are no BP strategies that could help because none exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 07:32 PM
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I'm a feminist answering for only me (and not the entirety of feminism) I think that the movement is good. It's not cool to make fun of or otherwise shame people based on their looks or their personal choices. Why be an asshole? Just let them live their lives and stay out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:06 AM
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A relationship should be a two-way street and I believe both people should put in equal amounts of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 09:42 PM
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I just wanted to add a quick reply to this. I know this is just a personal story, but I think it illustrates that there are no "perfect instructions" for relationships. I was miserable with my family when my parents were married. When they got divorced, my relationships with each of them increased in value and closeness. Sometimes families just shouldn't be forced together. I'm much happier with divorced parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 02:29 PM
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It's not about biological benefit. It's about people having the freedom to have the relationships that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 10:53 PM
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I'm not here to CYV. Just commenting because I thought it was a coincidence that I was just talking about this issue. I completely agree that there is no legal reason that the (American) government should forbid plural marriage. If two consenting adults can be married, then why not three or four or five? The only reason it's banned is that most major religions look poorly on that kind of relationship. Though the US is supposed to be governed without the input of the Church, it is too heavily ing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 10:50 PM
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I guess if I had 100k worth of man power, I'd have them rebuild homes and communities that were damaged by disasters. Something along the lines of improving the lives of this less fortunate. If you want an answer from the "pill" side of me, I'd have them build schools and help girls around the world that are treated poorly based on gender
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:32 AM
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White female At two different times and places in my life I have been interested in two asian men total and neither ended up turning into anything. Coincidentally, my best friend hooked up with one of them later because she grew to really like him and he ended up being a jerk. Oh well, his loss. I've only dated white and black men most likely because they are the two most populous races around me. I'm not sure what we could do about this, honestly. I think as time goes on and populations become …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 03:50 AM
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BP Early 20's, undergrad student, realist with a dash of optimism, registered democrat, many liberal beliefs and a few conservative beliefs. I identify (proudly) as a feminist because i take that to mean that I support gender equality for everyone in the world. I think the average feminist doesn't use the "f word" due to stigma, but I do because I recognize that there is power in language. I think feminism has benifitted society greatly by giving them opportunities and breaking down barriers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 06:20 PM
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haha great idea!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 06:45 PM
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I'm glad you're a fan of my honesty. I'm just saying that I'm not perfect and that I rationally know that censorship is wrong, I'm not sure I could make the "right" choice if given that power and responsibility. So I figure that in this case, I'm too close to this issue and would likely be affected by my bias. I'd propose that an unbiased party decide whether or not it gets deleted. I understand and myself enough to not pretend I would choose correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:27 PM
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I'd want more details about the trade I'm making but I'd definitely consider it if I felt it was a good deal. Then again, reproduction and sex aren't high on my personal list of importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 04:35 AM
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I don't see how it could possibly be bad that a woman would get to make that choice for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 04:33 AM
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While I totally believe in the right to free speech and expression, I don't believe I should be trusted completely with protecting that right. I'm obviously biased, but I probably would delete it. Not because I want to silence them or protect people from them, but because I think that would piss them off and I might find some sick joy in that. I think deleting them and censoring their ideas is not the right thing to do, but I would, which is why I shouldn't have that power.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:56 AM
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If you're doing everything to become the best you can be, why don't you try to treat others in the best way you can?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 01:36 AM
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I think hollywood sex symbols and men on the street/out in public are different and people have different reactions to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 09:38 PM
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I can't answer for all women because I don't have that data, but as a woman I think I can provide personal insight. When I see any man, I don't automatically think "Wow I want to have sex with him vigorously and often," or "no I do not want to have any sexual contact with him". If I see an attractive man I might think "wow that man is very attractive and maybe I'd like to horseback ride on the beach with him, romantic montage style." If I see a man that I don't really find appealing I don't thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 06:15 PM
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I don't think that all relationships with a dominant partner are bad. I think that it can work or not work depending on the people, but I'm trying to illustrate the inequality and danger involved when people have power over others.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 08:40 PM
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women across the world are denied an education based on their gender, shamed for sexual history, attacked and not believed, denied jobs based on gender or potential for childbearing, treated differently based on looks, sexualized in the media differently than men, and so much more Men across the world lack equal rights in marriage/divorce, parenting, have unattainable expectations of success and masculinity, are more likely to be convicted of a crime, lack equal birth control methods, and more I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 02:29 PM
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There are a ton of men that could be considered "ugly" that have girlfriends and wives. Most of them didn't get into those relationships by using TRP. I have an okay personality, I guess. I just know I'm really ugly. So what you're saying is that you have neither good looks, nor a good personality, not to mention you consider yourself to be immature and you have noticeably low self esteem? It sounds to me that it isn't "ugliness" that is holding you back. You can groom yourself, become more attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 02:34 AM
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wow there's so much here. I don't even know where to begin You have the mentality of a child. Everything to you is about feelings. You live based on feelings, you make decisions based on feelings In no way is this correct. I'm going to school right now to learn and increase my options. Sometimes that's not the easiest thing because I have to study and competitive academics can be stressful. Despite these feelings I am moving on with my education because I know it will be better for me in the end…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 08:32 PM
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And I'm sure laws are passed a lot more quickly in a dictatorship... see where I'm going here? Having one person call the shots might increase order, but does it make things more pleasant? Also a stable relationship isn't the same as a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 11:42 PM
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I'm happy living as I am so l don't think I would change anything about how I date
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:18 AM
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because I want to, and it's causing no one any harm" wouldn't that also be the reply of a member of an out group that wants to join an excluding club? I'm not saying you shouldn't get your guy club, but be prepared for backlash because nobody likes to feel excluded. The world is becoming more inclusive as time goes on. That just seems to be the trend now. So there's your answer. People try to influence other groups because diversity and inclusivity is "in".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 11:04 PM
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I don't see why you are so resistant to diversifying groups because science, society, and history have all taught us how important variation is to our lives and survival. The truth is that this is all happening because there is no real, valid reason to keep certain kinds of people from doing certain things. I guess if you don't like it, you don't have to be in any of those groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 10:20 PM
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we can't have that, now can we? What about fraternities and the freemasons? Things shouldn't be allowed simply because they ruffle other folk's feathers? Garbage what about the inclusion that's ruffling your feathers? Who gets to decide which ruffles get what they want? If you really want to be separate from different kinds of people, there are many religious organizations that will oblige you. I think the real problem is the entitled white men that refuse to accept that there are countless othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 09:30 PM
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I get what you're saying, but I just don't think it's that black and white. Anyways, people have always and will continue to have personal preferences when dating so I guess we should just let them. I don't think I'm going to CYV so oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 09:16 PM
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that's fine. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 09:08 PM
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Ok I can sorta see why you're mad about the MRA thing (though protesters ruin a lot of things for different groups), but why was the golf club supposed to keep women out? Because it was a male only space? The article even says that the club refused to let in black members until 1990. Were they trying to infiltrate white-only spaces? That seems kind of silly. The discrimination was just a dick move by the old, white, conservative men that started the club and they're just mad because people aren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 09:07 PM
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So what is the point? You obviously really want me to tell you about my sexual past, which is pretty damn short considering I'm a college student. Is it impossible to believe that sometimes people do or don't have sex just because that's what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:59 PM
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So smart women should just stop being smart to ease the burden of the men that can't handle a relationship with someone that isn't intellectually inferior? Why? What would the point of that be? I don't think smart women would see that as a good choice so I guess both of these groups of people should just choose to continue not dating each other. I'm not losing hope, though. I know a lot of intelligent women that found someone who valued their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:54 PM
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Nobody is preventing you from actually taking your homogeneous opinions to a private place where different voices cannot be heard, but if not, remember that a lot of where you converse is public and "haters gonna hate"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:43 PM
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Let me get this straight: if I've had sex on a first date it means that I'm just a "slut" that doesn't use men as a utility, but if I have chosen not to have sex on any of my first dates (for what ever reason) it means I'm just using them for their money? That's an incredibly ridiculous argument
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:40 PM
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What about all the women that actually enjoy sex and those that can make an independent living? Do you think they do this as well? What would be the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:31 PM
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I don't intend to be rude. I'm just trying to clarify because you have an interesting and unique attitude. This is how I'm interpreting this conversation: Me: Why you gotta be a mean? You: Cuz it's fun Am I understanding you correctly with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:28 PM
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I agree. I hope people can see equal worth in unique individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:24 PM
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I did not mean that the sexes are identical in everything within the mind. I mean that we cannot dismiss potential for a great mind based on something like gender. As a science student, I recognize that there are many, many literal differences between men and women. That being said, I don't believe that these differences make a huge difference or create impenetrable barriers in important things like intelligence, kindness, wit, creativity, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:23 PM
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I think it could be helpful to understand the type of people that would want to treat women in this way. It could also be beneficial for those men to hear differing opinions from a more diverse group of contributors. Knowledge is power!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:17 PM
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Is it weird that I don't want to answer very personal questions about my sex life on this public forum? You're taking my lack of answer as an actual answer instead of a refusal to disclose my private information. It's true that I try not to limit myself and different situations could call for different actions. Is that not enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:12 PM
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says who? I might depending on how it goes. Why limit myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:44 PM
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I see what you're saying about not needing the childish "hero" dreams, but there are some aspects of morality that are generally agreed upon. For example: treat others as you would like to be treated (yes it's childish and we learned it in grade school). The holding the door example makes sense, but you said that you would like to "pump and dump" feminist types? Why go out of your way to hurt someone? I'm not trying to save your soul or anything. I'm just genuinely curious why someone would call…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:43 PM
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I don't see why my sexual history or tendencies would have anything to do with targeting a guy for his money. I understand that "gold diggers" exist but I wouldn't go so far as to declare all women to be like that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:37 PM
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I meant living your life in a way that makes you think you're an asshole. Isn't that a bad thing? Isn't it a human thing to want to see yourself as good? Why don't you want to act in a way that would make you consider yourself good? It doesn't make sense to me that you would want to identify as a bad person or an asshole no matter what you're getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 09:27 AM
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If you're referring to conversations within RP, I think women want to get in on these conversations because they are specifically about targeting and manipulating women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 06:52 AM
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don't you think that might me a little messed up?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 06:43 AM
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why do you want to be an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 05:35 AM
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feminist, female, I'm in my early 20's but a lot of people think I'm 16 because I have a young face and I don't wear much make-up, part scottish and Native American so I have darkly tinted skin that changes color based on the sun, about 5'6", athletic build from sports and exercise, long brown curly hair, usually wear clothes for comfort rather than style or prestige, wow describing myself is hard
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 12:35 AM
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why would you "pump and dump" someone based on their views? What's the point in using sex as a way to hurt people when it's better to use it for fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 12:31 AM
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Equality is the most important thing if we want to get anywhere. We can't limit people in the world or in our minds if we want everyone to live up to their potential. Sure average men are physically larger and can lift heavier things than average women. So what? I believe the mind is the most important asset in a person and a person's mind isn't limited by their sex. Men and women can be emotional and rational, strong and sensitive, confident and supportive. There are no winners so I don't know …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 12:27 AM
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somehow, the world before internet, forums, and TRP included successful relationships. Can I give you a singular answer why? No. This is probably because, like most things in life, relationship knowledge grows with experience and seeking advice from those close to you. I don't see why strangers on the internet telling other strangers to play mind games holds so much value. For example, I asked my grandmother how she made her relationship work with her husband of 61 years and she shared some of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 12:19 AM
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I'm with you there. I've always preferred to date men that are kind rather than loud and confident/arrogant. I like someone that's strong in himself more than outwardly showing how he's awesome or ripped or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 12:15 AM
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That's nobody's business but my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 11:31 PM
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still untrue. I prefer to weigh the pros and cons of actions when I've gotten all the information that I need-- meaning I decide that after I've gone on the date
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 10:55 PM
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Police work would not include them asking me if I was sure that I didn't want him to take my purse, they wouldn't ask how many times I told him that he couldn't have it, and the amount of alcohol I might have had would have nothing to do with being mugged
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 10:53 PM
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Nope, wrong. I've always paid for myself on dates because I don't want that responsibility to fall on one side. Also what I decide to do sexually on dates has nothing to do with money
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 10:49 PM
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isn't it also true that men have the easiest means of preventing pregnancy in a partner? Female birth control and abortion are invasive, expensive, and require extensive medical treatment, while condoms are cheap, plentiful, and easy. Should that be taken into account?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 01:26 PM
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they don't report it because they are afraid (and rightfully so) that people like those in this thread will dismiss them and not believe them. Then their attacker will walk free and they could be in more social, physical, or other danger than they would be if they didn't report it. If someone grabbed my purse and I told a cop, I would most likely be believed, but if I told him I was just raped he might ask what I was wearing, if I had been drinking, am I sure I didn't want it, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 01:21 PM
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I really don't understand the whole RP thing with kids "women suck because they can take our kids away in divorce" "Women suck because they can choose to bring kids into the world" Why does RP want equality when they want the kid and not when they don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 01:15 PM
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I agree that women have the final "say" but men definitely have their own power to prevent pregnancy with up to 97% accuracy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 01:08 PM
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Whose job is it to assign "value added" by a person in a relationship? That's kind of an absurd thing to try to quantify. As long as both people are happy in contributing what they collectively give, that's all that matters. I think it's wrong to assume that the average woman looks at a man as a means to an easy life considering that more women are going to college and getting jobs than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 05:57 AM
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men can absolutely reduce the risk of pregnancy in their female partners by choosing to wear a condom
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 03:14 AM
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I wouldn't date someone that actively shamed people for their sexuality. I think slut-shaming is a dick-move and I don't like to date dicky guys
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 03:13 AM
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As a woman, I've never looked at a guy and thought "oh yeah, I want him to financially support me for my whole life for nothing in return" I think that seems like a kind of weird stereotype to put women in
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 01:54 AM
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short answer: yes I was actually talking to my roommate about this the other day. We were driving to the store and our university's male swim team passed us as they were on a run together. 10 built, shirtless, attractive, young athletes ran by us two college girls. We looked at each other and said "wow". Then I started thinking and analyzing what we had just done. We had just objectified these men. I turned to my friend and we discussed that if the genders were switched, we'd be talking about ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 01:52 AM
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1) someone funny, smart, interesting, strong (in his own way/ doesn't have to be physically strong), IDK depends I guess. I don't think i have a solid "type" 2) I can be both depending on mood or whatever 3) probably average, but can be high or low depending on certain circumstances 4) I don't think about female promiscuity. I don't see why anyone's sex life is anyone's business but their own. I wouldn't call myself "promiscuous". I've had boyfriends, but nothing too serious and I haven't had ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 01:45 AM
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because it's not cool to be a dick to people
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 01:38 AM
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Listen to your heart, but act using your brain, no man's happiness is more important than your own, don't hurt others and try to avoid being hurt, don't go out of control and don't be so controlled that you don't live your life, be smart, love yourself, men may come and go but your true friends and family will stay by your side, Go forth and set the world on fire
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 01:37 AM
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Kids are stupid and they shame people for their sexual histories. It was bullshit. I lost it to a guy I dated in high school. It probably wasn't the best idea, but we wanted to do it and the decision doesn't/ never did keep me up at night. I don't regret it because nothing bad came of it and I don't think my life would be different at all if I chose not to do it. It wasn't "special" nor does it hold a "special place in my heart". Meh I say that you should do with your body what you want and who …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 01:29 AM
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I don't thinker a terper would ever date me because I openly identify as a strong, independent, feminist type. Pretty sure that would be a no-no for a terper. But if I found out that a guy I am dating or my SO was a terper or just a TRP enthusiast, I'd end it. I can see how that kind of relationship or a relationship with a TRP guy could work for some people, but I'm just not into it personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 01:25 AM
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Yeah I don't know why they believe that this is a good idea People don't understand these lawsuits enough to know that they can be dangerous for both sides. They'll probably be suing for defamation or libel, but for that to come out the way they want it to, RS is going to have to question them and paint a picture of that frat that wouldn't be good. It's now RS's job to show that the frat didn't have a good reputation to harm by going deep, deep into their secrets. And knowing frats, members will…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 12:18 AM
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Lol yeah, but somehow I think I'll live with repelling RP types
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 12:10 AM
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you didn't specify in the post that you were only asking BP men I stand by my answer though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 06:11 PM
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Step 1: Identify the target of my affection Step 2: Get to know them Step 3: Flirt and show my personality Step 4: Do I want to continue with this? Is he even into me? Step 4a: if no- back down gracefully and proceed with only friendship Step 4b: if yes- proceed to step 5 Step 5: Get together privately (dating, hanging out, etc) Step 6: SEXXX
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 05:50 PM
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well she's credited on her songs as either writer or cowriter that's something, but I guess it doesn't really matter
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 09:32 PM
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does it matter if it sells and she's gotten successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 05:58 PM
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just throwing out there that she was a songwriter and musician before she made it big. I'm not saying that to defend her poor message in the song, but I thought it would be worth adding.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 02:33 PM
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I actually really like Meghan Trainor. Her songs aren't going down in history, but they're fun to dance to. If we went through all of today's top songs' lyrics, we could find A TON of things to be pissed about. Let's just agree that some shitty things sell. Next, everyone has expectations that may bot be the most realistic. I think it has to do with our influences growing up, gender expectations, and other socially constructed concepts. This men v. women thing is unproductive and we should just …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 02:32 PM
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I was trying to get the information from each individuals' point of view, but thanks for the unnecessary sass.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 10:24 PM
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was it in response? Yeah it was in response to one of them (very drunkenly) announcing his intentions to hookup with me. I responded by saying that the person that I was the most likely to sleep with in that room was my roommate. She found that funny. It was all in good humor, but it got the point across that I was there to be friends with these people and nothing more. I agree that it would have been a dick move if I had said it without being prompted.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 10:21 PM
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Sometimes I have similar thoughts, but then I think about my friend who peed in the middle of the living room carpet while drunk. Then I think about my other friend who exposed his penis to a room full of less drunk friends "to prove it was there". Maybe at a point drunken escapades have to do with true desire, but mostly I think they are the result of a drug that has disabled our abilities to think clearly and causes us to do things we never would have done sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 03:25 PM
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You seem really against the idea of having a productive discussion. Just because I'm not going to change my views doesn't mean I'm not interested to learn how other people see and experience things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 07:40 PM
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what about RPW?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 03:14 PM
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either crack or pot, but if you want something else...I know someone...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 03:11 PM
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I included that people could make statements about what they would say to other types of people. I used myself as an example of someone who did not know what either side had to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 03:09 PM
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great. I'm glad this was so productive and educational for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 05:26 AM
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I was interested to learn how they would have me accept the truths of the world as they see it or let me know what impacts RPW would have on me. I also included that people should submit what they would say to other types of people as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 05:21 AM
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you mean the hypothetical question that I asked in order to start a discussion in which people put forth the best that their side has to offer? I said that I had no idea what TRP would have to offer me because I seriously just don't know, but I'm sure something was intriguing to RPW which led them to live their lives the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 05:18 AM
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Neither side preaches! I know that and I didn't say they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 05:10 AM
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I don't think I've communicated very well here. I used the door to door thing to show that I was interested in a "short n sweet" version of each philosophy. I don't actually think anybody is going to preach. The idea was to use that image to set up this kind of discussion. If you don't want to share anything, that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 05:08 AM
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thats funny! But the point was to get a quick, introductory statement that would sum up the main points and make the listener want to hear more
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 02:35 AM
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I say I'm a woman in my 20's She says something bad about women in their 20's I show displeasure "don't take it so personally lololol women are so sensitive" did I miss something here? Looks pretty clear
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 01:56 AM
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I haven't really thought it applied to me. I'm trying to just start from the beginning here and I'm trying pretty hard to look at these responses with an open mind, but you're making it really hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 01:53 AM
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you ignore my question, refuse to contribute to this discussion, made an insulting general statement about a demographic that I fall into and I'm supposed to take it well?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 01:45 AM
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So instead of trying to constructively add to this discussion, you choose to tell me I fall into your made-up stereotype and dismiss my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 01:08 AM
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Communicate your intentions. It's that simple. Exactly! I don't know what people have issues with this. I have a large group of friends (guys and girls) and we all know that are relationships are non-sexual. I think I've even told a few of them "we are never having sex". To which they replied, "k"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 12:47 AM
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Yeah I know they wouldn't recruit me to be in the club, but I wonder what they would say to convince me that their views are the truth. There must be something that made some women become RPW
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 12:25 AM
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so... you're saying you have nothing constructive to add to this discussion? thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 12:08 AM
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I see how some men would want to listen. Nice summary!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 11:51 PM
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I think that's an arrogant and rude comment considering I asked an open question with the intent of hearing opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 11:49 PM
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No, not really. He gives me the creeps, pops out out of nowhere and my dog barks at him every time she sees him and he's the only one she does that to. I see where you're going with this though, but even if I found him physically attractive I wouldn't sleep with him because it would be a very poor choice to associate with drug dealer. I do see your point though *A drug dealer probably does need "fixing", but just not by me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 11:29 PM
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It's actually funny that you said that because I'm pretty convinced that my next door neighbor sells drugs! He's in his 60's and huge so no thats to the banging lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 11:25 PM
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I think it could possibly be both. I think we are biologically designed to pick certain attributes in a mate in order to produce the best offspring possible, but society can change what we think desirable traits are. For example, different decades have different trends of "perfect" men. I think there's a "lumbersexual" trend going on now, "greasers" used to be sexy, "guidos" in NJ, hipsters in Portland, etc. I think there's a lot of thing that could be involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 11:06 PM
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Even as a Jewish woman, I love a good Jew joke, but most of these aren't even funny. I'm disappointed :/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 07:14 PM
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I think I misspoke (misstyped). When I said she changed the genre, I mean that she added to it by including action, adventure, comedy, and other things that caused it to have one of the biggest cultural impacts since Tolkien.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 11:12 PM
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Rowling is a perfect example of a writer the changed the genre of fantasy. She created a world and characters that people all over the world fell in love with. People stood outside of stores for hours to get a copy when new ones were released. She taught a generation to love reading. Her writing and story crafting abilities are great and she made history as being the first author to make a billion dollars. Her stories sparked hugely successful movies, theme parks, computer games, and even a spor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 10:57 PM
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There isn't a lack of female genius. This thread is full of examples of women excelling creatively, but you just refuse to acknowledge them and their success.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 10:01 PM
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well I guess this ends here because there's absolutely no way to know or test that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:48 PM
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Don't you think it's possible that it's a cycle? "that work isn't good because it was done by a woman who's gender is bad at that type of work" that's probably what a lot of people heard, saw, and believed. Probably discouraged a lot of potentially talented people
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:36 PM
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I agree that partnership and equality are important, though for some people that may mean different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:31 PM
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This was my life for a time. My mom owns her own company and my dad had a few short term, low paying jobs that he didn't really like. Between his jobs, he stayed at home with my older brother and me. It was fine. I don't think much of it other than that I'm proud of my mom and look up to her success and I'm glad my dad stayed home sometimes. My mom is just smarter and better at what she does than my dad is. People are different; it wasn't/isn't a big deal. Actually, now that I think about it, al…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:25 PM
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100 years of female emancipation While women have had the rights to participate in the arts, there have been many other things keeping them out. For example: Societal pressures limited them. We have only had birth control since 1960 and the right to safe and legal abortion since 1973. If women got pregnant, they were expected to keep it and take care of the children and the home. The idea of the nuclear family kept women in a box from which it has taken a long time to escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:14 PM
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You make a good point here for women. Traditionally women spent hours and hours creating clothing, quilts, and other crafts. Those crafts aren't considered valuable fine arts, but still require a lot of creativity and talent. Even now I know far more women than men that enjoy creative hobbies and interests. I want to add that I still don't believe that one gender is better than the other at "being creative". I don't think in our world it's realistic to think that one gender "wins" at creativity.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 08:55 PM
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They probably painted as a hobby sometimes, but the fact is that nobody valued work by women at the time. So it was probably done (and done well) but nobody cared to look at a housemaid's pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 08:49 PM
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I strongly disagree, but I don't think this conversation is going to end with anyone agreeing or changing their minds. At this point I'm just going to have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 08:44 PM
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To me, a creep is someone that makes unwanted advances that makes the receiver very uncomfortable. I think the graduation from pushy to creep happens when the person in question ignores requests to stop their behavior or is just acting outright insane. My first "creep" emerged when I was taking drivers' ed. He went through the file cabinet in the office to find my paperwork and get my number. Then he kept texting me without telling me who he was. Then when he finally told me, he kept getting wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 06:17 PM
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I just included the female executives because they are related to apps that you brought up. You said you couldn't think of an app made by a woman so I gave you one. I'm not sorry that you're unfazed. I was just trying to contribute. I don't think we can prove anything about either gender being more or less artistically creative due to inequalities in history, education, and populations within artistic communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 06:04 PM
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Marriage is around for civil, financial, and religious services. In addition, a vast majority of marriages are between people that love each other and the choice to do it wasn't a business decision. I think there is a problem in debating this type of question on this sub. Some people here see marriage as a merging of lives, some see putting assets in danger, and some see other things. Really though, people don't go into marriage with the end of a relationship in sight. That's kind of the whole p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:49 PM
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There is a huge gender gap in computer science. Of course if there are more men making apps, top apps are more likely to have been made by men. This doesn't necessarily mean that men are innately better in creative pursuits or app making. Also just throwing out there that the COO of Facebook is a woman named Sheryl Sandberg and Twitter also has female executives. Edit: your comment got me thinking so after a quick google search I found that the #10 paid app "Camara+" was co-created by a woman na…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:33 PM
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I cannot agree with you more here! I like to write comedy mostly as a hobby and maybe want to turn it into a career. This "unfunny women" thing drives me up the wall. I watched a documentary on the subject on Netflix (I forget the title). But here's to supporting women in comedy!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:17 PM
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The examples you gave came from a time when women weren't even allowed to explore their artistic talents. Do you think anybody would want to see a play written by the housewife next door to shakespeare? Men even played women in plays because they didn't want them in the arts. Only in the past few decades have women begun to break into the entertainment industry and be recognized for their talent rather than their appearance. You're making an impossible comparison that cannot be tested due to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:12 PM
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I'm not sure if you're referring to everyone that isn't RP as BP or just the people on the BP sub. I think there's a huge difference between the type of people that actively participate in the satire subreddit and the people that come to PPD to debate opposing views. I consider myself as sort of anti-RP philosophy, but I don't subscribe to the BP sub. I think TRP would still consider me as BP though. As far as judging BPers for certain traits, I think you can find examples of childish behavior, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:01 PM
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I think that's a horrible idea. Not because it would specifically hurt anyone, but it would just be a pain in the ass. First, I don't think the government has a right to take DNA from it's citizens. I'm not paranoid, but there's evidence to suggest they might abuse their power. Next, that's just a TON of unneeded testing done. The number of people that could doubt parenthood is far exceeded by those who don't. Finally, who would pay for it? Let's say theres a couple million births per year, mult…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:02 AM
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I strongly disagree. There are tons of single parents that bring up good children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 03:40 AM
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empathy: the ability to understand and share the feelings of another my friend struggled because society expected him to act masculine all the time and not show his true self. I empathize with him because I understand the struggle of having societal expectations for behavior and I share his pain by imagining what he is going through and feeling for him in addition to knowing what effects societal norms have on me. I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say that I take advantage of men "…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 02:24 AM
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I want to let you know that I fall into the demographic of white women in college. I also have no need to see men as only a utility and I can feel sympathy and empathy for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 02:13 AM
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I don't either... seems like this is more of an opinion than the "fact" OP claims it is. I know that I both sympathize and empathize with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 02:10 AM
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That doesn't make any sense. Why would anybody (man or woman) have a relationship with someone out of which they get nothing? People go into relationships wanting and expecting things of the other. If they don't get what they need, the relationship ends. Isn't that just the way things work?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 02:08 AM
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Wear down in what ways? Are these relationships short term, long term, or marriages? How often (percentage wise) do you mean by "most of the time"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:30 PM
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These are huge generalizations about a large, diverse population. I think it would be beneficial for all if we stepped back and examined how we each see romantic relationships. I will choose a mate by finding someone that is kind, funny, stimulating, challenging, has similar values, and yeah I want us to be attracted to each other (whatever that may mean for us as individuals) Here is how I see my future relationship (as I'm currently single): I hope to be financially independent and stable by t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:07 PM
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so you're saying women can give sympathy to some men for a limited time? Isn't that different from none at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 08:40 PM
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If you agree that women have changed, isn't it possible that their change may have caused (at least somewhat of) a change in the average "expectations"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 04:32 PM
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women as a group feel absolutely nothing for men? Doesn't that seem like kind of a stretch? There are countless women that would understand/ empathize with being a "workhorse". Just as there are men that support others, there are women that support families without a man. Maybe I could see your point of view as somewhat understandable decades ago, but times have changed and struggles are more similar than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 04:07 PM
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she was yelling "no" and telling him to let her go. It wasn't a sexual encounter. He attacked her and she had to run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 08:57 PM
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The second example definitely fits here. The guy was keeping her there against her will by blocking the door and not letting her leave when she kept saying "no". A court of law would absolutely not dismiss this. It was terrifying for her and she didn't want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 01:02 PM
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I think I am a good person to answer this question because I'm a woman in college. My freshman year, two weeks into the semester, my hallmate was raped vaginally and anally by two other students. They found her at a party and told her they were going to help her get back to the dorm because she shouldn't be walking alone. They then took her to their apartment and attacked her. She kept saying it was her own fault for being too drunk. She had to go to the hospital and she had both physical and ps…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 05:19 AM
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1>2>3 Personality is definitely #1 for the person I'm going to be with for a long time. I can't stand the idea of having to spend a huge part of my life with a person I don't even like. #2 is difficult. I mean, I need to be attracted to them, but that may not mean they are conventionally "attractive". I think it's important to be attracted to your mate and I don't think that's wrong. #3 is also a weird one. I don't care about how much money they make, but I want someone to be my partner and to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 01:37 AM
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I don't have kids, but I'd like to have some in the future. Maybe 10 years from now
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 01:29 AM
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I understand how you have come to this view, but I think there is something that needs to be addressed: The rape fantasy, actual rape, and rape as defined by the law are not the same in all ways. This haziness makes it difficult to base views on these concepts. First, I think (and others may/may not agree) that the "rape fantasy" doesn't really mean that the woman wants to be hurt, violated, etc. I think this fantasy is just about another person having sexual control and that may be something so…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 01:22 AM
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I really don't think the issue is that simple. I truly believe that men and women intend on staying together when they get married. I also think that there could be many reasons for people to want to get divorced or to want to stay together and they probably don't result from someone's gender. Yes, more women have been asking for divorces than ever before, but that most likely has to do with the fact that women have more options and opportunities today than they ever have. Before, women had to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 09:13 PM
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I haven't made those kinds of plans yet, but I could see myself potentially being in a long term, monogamous relationship with a man and decide that I (we) want us to spend the rest of our lives together. I'm not religious in any way so a wedding, to me, is just a celebration of a huge life decision/ change and a chance to get everyone in your life together so they can all meet, have fun, and send you down the road toward the rest of your life. Though culturally brides are more the center of att…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 07:39 PM
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considered the undeniable pinnacle of Western beauty standards (which are the most prevalent in the world) what about all the unattractive white women? Do they have it easiest too? Hordes of men at your beck and call on social media waiting to validate you how does this make life easier? fake internet interaction doesn't do too much in the grand scheme of things Tinder (nuff said) alimony child support not exclusively white women things scholarships in STEM fields should you choose to pursue it …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 03:17 PM
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can you explain your views a little more? Why do you think this would be helpful/ better for people?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 05:46 AM
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could you elaborate a little? Do you think it shouldn't exist because marriage shouldn't exist or because married people should be forced to stay together?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 05:35 AM
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Sure! My aunt is a great example. She stopped dating after college, moved around a lot, settled down, and adopted two children. They are a lovely family. She didn't do it because she felt ill will toward men; she just realized that the relationship life wasn't/isn't for her. Now she's very successful and quite happy :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 01:48 AM
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nah, but thanks for the condescending tone. My mom set a great example for me by making all of her own money and supporting my dad and my family so I don't think I'll run into the money issue while dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 04:30 AM
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I've never dated a guy that had any money. I'm a college student. We're all poor and live with our parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 04:25 AM
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nope. I'm comfortable in my earning potential so I don't care how much money someone has.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 04:07 AM
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nope! money never comes up when my friends and I are talking about guys we like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 03:36 AM
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Maybe they turn some women on, but it sounds a little over simplified. I also have never talked to my girl-friends about how sexy a guy's money is. I can see how people would be attracted to fame, but it's unrealistic to think everyone wants to sleep with the football player just because he's a football player. As one of the subjects of this discussion, I find this whole thing to be extremely flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 09:49 PM
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Well I can't say I'm unhappy to know that I still think they are going about it wrong though, but to each, their own
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 08:37 PM
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I mean "cold, calculating, and shallow" in such a way that women would have an attraction checklist: "status? check looks? check money? check. okay time to have sex with that guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 08:35 PM
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What if women want a variety of attractive men to sleep with? If you are all becoming the same person, you're all in competition for the women that want to sleep with that type of person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 07:45 PM
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Like not having a single ideal. What I'm hearing from TRP is that they all want to be super powerful, built, muscular, confident, rich alphas. Isn't there something to be said for variety? There are so many more great things about people that you can strive for like generosity and kindness. Perhaps it's time to add different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 07:40 PM
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they also may hurt by generalizing a huge population made up of individuals. I can see how it could be helpful, but I think there could be a better way of going about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 07:23 PM
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I don't see how having a diverse dating history= not knowing what I want I just don't have a physical type that I prefer, but I really don't feel the need to defend my choices any further to a stranger that thinks they know more about me than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 07:22 PM
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I'd pick average and average
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:28 PM
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Okay, what i do: I'm in a relationship with an average height guy that's neither skinny nor super muscular. Before that I was in a relationship with a skinny guy that is very tall. Before that I dated a guy that was average build and pretty short.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:26 PM
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We don't have meetings to come up with a set of criteria. Is it too much to grasp for people here that people are individuals and can have their own preferences? Why is there a huge need to generalize?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:24 PM
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No. I think that everyone has their own preferences and opinions about attractiveness and things can change. Some people like shorter guys, some like tall ones; some people like muscular guys that go to the gym and others like skinny ones. I've dated a range and so have others. Women aren't as cold, calculated, and shallow about it as TRP thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:39 AM
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I'm in my early 20s and I cannot disagree with this more. The only thing that may be remotely, consistently true is that people my age choose to have sexual relations with people they find attractive, but that's true of all people. As far as status, penis size, and arrogance are concerned... just no way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:10 AM
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I think sex and emotions are tricky subjects, but nobody should be entitled to have sexual relations with someone that it unwilling. That being said, I believe that either partner doing or withholding anything as a tactic to manipulate the other can be an abusive behavior. Intention here is a catalyst that can change my answer. While consent in sex is required, it's unhealthy to refuse consent as a method of gaining power or manipulating using it as a tool. Simply saying "no I don't want to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 12:51 AM
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I'm not sure how to answer this well. My words are just from me and not from all feminists (because feminism isn't a club that has meetings or votes on general opinions). I don't want that to be misunderstood. you gotta do you. if this is what you want and you're happy with your own decisions, then play on. I really don't care what other people do as long as they aren't hurting themselves or others and try to be decent human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:37 PM
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I sorta started by accident. I decided that I wanted to have a big oak chest in my apartment but they were all so expensive. I said "that's a crazy amount of money for something I bet I could build myself". Words were said, challenges were made, and people didn't believe in me so I obviously had to build a kick ass chest and rub their faces in my talent and persistence. Lowes and YouTube are the only resources I needed. In the process it got fun and became a hobby. Anyone could do it with the ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 06:42 AM
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Make divorce harder to get how would you do that? In my state, both people have to testify that they've lived apart and have not spent the night under the same roof in the past year. So my parents had to live in separate homes for 365 nights before they were granted a divorce. Why was this better than letting them sign a piece of paper in a day? They spent 22 years together and didn't come upon the decision to divorce during a stupid argument. I don't see how making divorces harder to get would …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 01:43 AM
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Female, not RP: building furniture, crafting, knitting, hiking with my dog, softball, baseball, music/singing, baking, laughing, movies, pissing of old white men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 11:24 PM
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Again, I understand your view. I'd like to bring up that "incentivizing abortion" is a dangerous area. For some people that isn't an option due to the laws of the area, development stage of the fetus, religious + political beliefs, and other issues. I think abortion in this debate is being taken very lightly. Becoming a parent, giving a child up for adoption and terminating a pregnancy are extremely serious decisions. I think it would be cruel (but not unrealistic) to boil the decision down to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 05:27 PM
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I see where you are coming from and it makes sense. The reality is that everyone knows that it takes sex to make a child. With that information, people sometimes choose to have sex and accidentally get pregnant. I realize that a person's money is their own much like a woman's body is her own. I agree that a woman has more chances to forfeit the child than a man does, but this has largely to do with the fact that it grows inside of her, which is just biology and not up to an individual. I don't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:47 PM
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I don't claim to have all the answers, but it's obvious that the current laws aren't as effective. Every law has unintended consequences, but it's important that they are as fair as possible to the involved parties. Divorce and Alimony: Allow divorce for any reason to anyone, not because marriage is an unimportant agreement, but because it is unjust to keep people together if one or both do not want to be. That being said, I believe that current alimony rules are unsound. A no fault divorce coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:13 PM
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or that you don't like doing that thing anymore and don't want to force yourself to be uncomfortable for the rest of your life just because you've done it before
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 04:48 AM
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Why should someone take it as a bad thing that their SO is being themselves because they are comfortable saying that they don't want to do something? I think the main point here is that this person is saying "no, I don't want to do that". Doing those things specifically to manipulate someone into staying is exactly the kind of game-playing, manipulation that I thought TRP hated. What matters in the moment is that the person does not want to do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 03:00 AM
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situations and minds change all the time. Why should it matter the reason? They are saying "no". Why should anybody deal with the previous "yeses"? If you can deal with "no" then deal with it and don't overanalyze. If you can't, then end the relationship. It's that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:51 PM
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or maybe people change their minds maybe situations change maybe it has more to do with her than it does with you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:28 PM
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Why does it matter who she has done it for? If someone does something, it doesn't mean they're required to do it again. If you want something that someone won't give to you, either get over it or leave. There's no use over analyzing and playing this game.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:26 PM
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That's not a reliable way to judge a person's opinion of you. It may not have to do with attraction at all. Maybe they did something for someone else and aren't doing it for you because they didn't like it and are comfortable enough with you to think they shouldn't have to. For example, I do different sexual things in my current relationship than in my last one. It is not because I am more attracted to my current SO, but I am more comfortable doing different things with him and my previous SO ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:22 PM
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Does she not want to give you a blow job, because it's really uncomfortable for her, or is it because she doesn't feel like she needs to do it to a keep you around. Both of these reasons are based on the fact that she doesn't want to do it. Keeping someone around by doing something you don't want to do isn't fair to either person in the relationship. The idea that you have to do certain things to keep someone around is most likely bad for a relationship. People should be together because they wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:18 PM
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I think it's a ridiculous way to judge women in relationships. Why do we have to wonder who she'd do it for other than you. It's a waste of time to analyze a nonexistent relationship to determine something about a partner. All that matters is the people in the relationship. Will they do that thing for you? Will you communicate and work on it? Is it a deal breaker for you? These are the things that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:34 PM
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I think I'm a good friend and girlfriend. I'm fiercely loyal, mostly friendly, I have a great sense of humor, I'm smart, and I never give up. I do recognize my faults though. For example, when I'm fighting I fight hard and I'm often hard on myself. All together, I think I'm great "relationship material" for the right people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:29 PM
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I was raised Jewish but my family and I aren't really believers. We are just culturally involved. I also consider myself an atheist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:24 PM
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Dad: stop beating the boys in sports and games. Don't emasculate them so they'll like you. you're beautiful, funny, and smart so boys are intimidated. Lighten it up a bit so they're comfortable with you. boys don't like: unnatural make-up/nail colors, girls that say curse words, tattoos, feminists, debaters Mom: be comfortable with yourself and what you're doing. you're great and they'll see that. Be the smart, witty, strong woman I know you are I took dad's advice first and hated being that per…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 09:11 PM
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I don't really care. I focus on a few other things that I find to be more important: Do I like him? Do I want to have sex with him? Will he use a condom? (very important), Is he free of disease? (high partner count does not automatically = diseased) and finally, will/ do we have mutual respect? After I have my answers to those questions, it doesn't matter to me how many people he's been with before.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 02:28 AM
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that's not completely true. Condoms do reduce the risk of HPV and other STDs. In addition, condoms cannot 100% anything (including pregnancy) but decrease the likelihood of getting infections.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 03:13 PM
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I have never had an STD and I use many types of prevention methods. I think the problem with your question is that you assume not caring about partner count = mindless sexual shenanigans. We can still be careful without judging people based on their number of sexual partners. Sexual freedom =/= sexual carelessness
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 03:08 PM
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It's like a religious war because both sides think they are fighting "for good"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 12:08 AM
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looks like we're twins!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 11:58 PM
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My grandma has been married for the last 61 years and her advice to me was has changed the way I think about relationships. "You can't just love him; you have to like him" I want my LTR to be with someone that I see as a best friend, but gives me the perks of romance (and obviously sex). Similar interests Fun to be around makes me laugh**** SUPER IMPORTANT! respects and supports me loyal and caring Smart attractive (in my opinion)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 11:17 PM
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I'm not. If you read my reply, you'd see that I have questions about your answer that have to do with your opinions on changing divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 02:08 PM
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Who gets to decide what is a good reason to want a divorce? Is that the government's place to get into that? If you can cut a child out of a will for any reason you want, why shouldn't you have the same ease for a divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:30 AM
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I don't think people go into marriage thinking that they'll get a divorce. I also don't believe that the government has the right to give the ultimatum of marriage or kids. Just because people don't want to stay married to their spouse doesn't mean they don't want to be a parent. You can want to leave your SO and still love your child. You could be on to something with the alimony point, though it's hard to make it so black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:25 AM
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Why would it benefit people to force unhappy couples to stay together? A huge portion of divorces have nothing to do with a mean wife wanting to steal their husband's money. There's no point in trapping a couple together if one or both want out. As a child of divorced parents, I can't imagine how tough my home life would have been if the government required my unhappy parents to stay together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:49 PM
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As a member of Greek Life on my campus, I'd like to clear something up. A frat party is not an official fraternity function. They are not sanctioned by the national headquarters and are generally not allowed. Many Greek organizations still throw these parties anyway. So even thought there was not an official function that day, there still could have been a party.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 11:28 PM
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I absolutely see what you mean when you make those points, but I do not believe that being in a relationship is like buying a house. I think it is more complicated than comparing a person to a thing. When valuing an object, it may be important to know the history, but human beings are always learning, changing, and growing. Yes it is possible that a person with a very promiscuous sexual background could slip into old habits. It is also possible for people to move on, go through phases, change vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 09:10 PM
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you're taking my quick addition to my comment wayyyy too seriously. I wasn't arguing something. I just meant that maybe we should try to mind our own business
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 05:20 AM
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This was really not the main point of my original comment. 1:"You should/shouldn't do that sexual thing you are/n't doing!" 2:"Stop telling me what to do! It's not your business!" 1:"I know better!" 2: "No you don't!" 1: "GRR!" 2: "GRR" =unpleasant
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 04:07 AM
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That wasn't a proposition. I added it because generally getting in other people's business causes unpleasantness. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 03:56 AM
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using the same logic aren't men with high partner counts also not suitable for LTRs?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 02:15 AM
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It's not any of my business how many partners my SO has had. If everyone minded their own (sexual) business, we'd get along much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 01:40 AM
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Thats true, though there are several theories of humor. I hate to be that "I'm so smart" kind of person, but I learned about them in a theater class and now is my time to share that useless knowledge. There are three main theories of laughter: 1.contempt- laughing at people, making fun of others emotional release- relief after a build-up of emotion "OMG a giant spider ahhhhh... wait... it's just lint haha whew" incongruity- "lolz that cat has a piece of bread in his head" So you could definitely…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 01:39 AM
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I absolutely think men and women can be equally funny. I think it's hard for people to see because comedy has been a "boys' club" until pretty recently. There are also a lot of things that are engrained in our society that make it easier for men to make jokes. For example, there are some double standards in gender that effect the funniness of a joke. A male comedian can spend five minutes talking about a pimple he found on his ballsack and people would laugh, but not as many people would laugh a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 01:06 AM
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I don't think this is unattainable at all. It sounds like my relationship and we are really happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 03:43 PM
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Frankly, I think the whole debate is stupid and neither side is right. When you try to measure something as abstract as happiness, you're in for a ton of problems. This is especially true because all people measure happiness in different ways. As far as these numbers are concerned, they are poorly supported and should be erased from all our memories. People are too trusting in people who use the terms, "experiments say" and "studies show". What studies? How many people were used? Was it a random…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 09:21 PM
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I think this response shows that anyone can be harassed or a harasser. If this video wasn't made to make fun of the movement, it could be a good stepping stone to making the discussion about mutual respect among people of all genders. This video is an interesting representation of the more silent harassment of men, which I'm sure happens, but on a smaller scale (most likely). Instead of fighting about everything, wouldn't it make more sense to say "yeah, I hear you. You don't like when people do…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 08:29 AM
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again, you're wrong. I wasn't born to wealthy parents. My mom sold her company and made her money when I was going into high school so there's just another thing that shows that you have no idea what you're talking about. I will have a nice day because I know I'm worth something beyond what my parents earn. I hope you find that same confidence in yourself. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 09:43 PM
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There is so much wrong with what you said about me. You know nothing about me. I didn't win anything. My mom worked hard and made something of herself. She did this so she could afford to care for me and send me to school. I don't have a BMW (I don't even have a car of my own) and I'm not wealthy because it's not my money. I also think that, yeah, I'm worth a hell of a lot. My worth has nothing to do with money. I'm smart, I work hard, and I'm passionate and that's something to be proud of. I NE…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 08:13 PM
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You seem to think you know a lot about me and my intentions for someone that I've never met. What do you mean by "humble bragging"? Am I humble bragging every time I say that I have something, simply because it may be better than something someone else has? Who determines what is better than anything else. Also, if you don't care about wealth, upbringing, or privilege, why are you blowing up at me for saying that I have things? Calm down and reevaluate your priorities. Do u even argument bro? Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 11:57 PM
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So you replied to my comment to insult me? Even though (like the other commenter) my comment was sarcastic? Even though I announced that I realized my sarcasm was immature? Even though I was just using my experiences to provide an example that shows a different side of the argument? It sounds like your bitterness for people (or "snobs" as you put it) that discuss the fortunate aspects of their lives, make you angrier than needed. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 04:28 PM
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No, I'm bothered because you turned my disagreement with this generalization into just a personal defense. In addition, you used my reasons for disagreeing into an attack and told me that people hate me because my mom worked to give me a good life and I worked hard enough to maintain it. This is ridiculous and neither of us are going to get anything out of continuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 02:23 AM
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That's a bs generalization of that demographic. It's insulting to people that have done nothing to deserve that reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 06:51 PM
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While that might be true, I think making the statement that this is accurate for any demographic is a reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 01:04 PM
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I think you're misunderstanding my intentions. I said that stuff about my university and my scares and other things to show that I did not get in just because I'm a women. I used my credentials to show that I succeeded based on my own merit. I don't think I would consider discussing my fortunate situation as bragging. I was just trying to make a point. Also I never said that people in trade school were poor saps. I was making a joke that I would go find a poor sap from trade school to be in a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 04:54 AM
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I think it definitely depends on the woman. The average woman might be thrown off (to say the least) by the request for this advice so their answer may not be the best. I think asking the right women the right questions can result in some good advice. I'm not sure if it is better than the advice of men that may have had these kinds of sexual relationships, but anything is possible, I guess. I don't think we are able to generalize enough because everyone is different and instead of asking for adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 01:32 PM
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Yeah.... in no way is this an accurate representation of the life of a specific or broad demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 01:08 PM
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People hate me because my mom worked hard to send me to private school so I didn't have to go to the gang and drug infested public school that I was districted for? I never said I was better than everyone and I didn't act snobby. I said that I was a part of OP's target demographic and my life is very different than what they described.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 01:05 PM
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I didn't say it was easy. I said that it was the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 11:22 PM
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Only because you meant it as one and are being disrespectful even though my answer was very respectful. Also my answer is not the result of being a "standard boilerplate" anything. I happen to be a feminist AND that is my answer. I'm sure many non-feminists (maybe not in TRP community) would agree that this guy needs to take a hard look at himself and what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 11:04 PM
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Because you are intent on taking my words as a broad, literal statement, I have fixed the comment so you will not longer be so sadly confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 11:02 PM
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I don't think being a feminists means that I speak for all feminists. In addition, I was just trying to point out that this very specific dream is unrealistic and most likely won't bring immediate and lasting happiness. I think our culture supports that idea that sleeping with attractive women will make men happy, but that's most likely not the case. I was just trying to write that in short, coherent sentences, but I guess that makes me a "standard boilerplate feminist"...?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 12:48 PM
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EPILOGUE I think you are right that we won't agree, but you misunderstand my reasoning. That's fine. It's difficult to answer a very RP question using non-RP ideals. That's probably why you don't fully understand my reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 12:37 PM
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I'm not going to use the energy to write an extensive reply because we both know that's not what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 02:10 AM
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I don't think my use of "far more" means that a substantial amount of guys would do it. There are so few that adding any amount would be a substantial increase to that population. I also meant that far more members of TRP community would be in relationships with multiple supermodels if the method worked, not men in general. Yes, members of the general male population might get in on it too, but I was just talking about TRP. The self reflection was supposed to help the hypothetical person that wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 02:05 AM
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Yes I understand that you are rp and have those values. Now apply that situation to every man. Don't you think that the average man would pick the former? Up until the point when he decided he wanted this relationship, isn't the guy OP is talking about more like the average man than TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 08:37 PM
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I'm not lecturing or saying that you're shallow people. I think the healthy thing would be to think before you act in case you may be making a mistake. OP asked for an answer and I gave one. My answer does not include a method because one does not exist. If a true method did exist, there would be far more men in these types of relationships. No I don't think you should want what I want because we are most likely in very different life situations. Self reflection can help with anyone at any time.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 08:31 PM
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You're (poorly) twisting my words. What you want and what you need may not be the same thing. I'm not advocating for wasting time, deep in thought. I think we would all just be happier if we reflected upon our own thoughts and desires and better understood their origin. When I got out of class today I was really hungry because I had not eaten in hours. I wanted to go out for a giant cheeseburger because I was starving and tired. I realized that this wouldn't be good for my health and I probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 07:59 PM
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I didn't decide that. Imagine the following scenario: You are on your deathbed and your family is surrounding you, saying their last goodbyes. What are you more likely to be thinking? God, I wish I could spent more time (insert warm, fuzzy thing here) OR God, I wish I could have had an extra $500k and more nights in the club You see what I'm saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 07:56 PM
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okay I used 75k because it is well above the average American yearly income. Let me be more extreme. It's like telling someone making $500k per year that making $2million per year will provide happiness for the rest of their life. Yeah having money is better than having no money, but money does not bring love, friendship, fun, or anything non-material unless you are shallow enough to not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 05:36 PM
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Does it really state what women find attractive? Is it realistic to make these blanket statements? I think feminism is more for the self, while trp helps you create a persona that can only be satisfied by the respect, feelings, and submission of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 05:29 PM
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How can you expect to have your argument taken seriously when you start out with insults and name-calling?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 05:18 PM
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Those are techniques for manipulating and destroying the self-esteem of a target to make them dependent on the man. They don't teach you how to get ripped, make a lot of money, become super interesting, or gain social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 05:10 PM
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I'm going to disagree partly. I've never been under the impression that feminism is a way to achieve happiness, but rather, a way to gain the tools and equality to be able to find that happiness on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 04:08 PM
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I'm not saying that having sex with many beautiful women wouldn't be an awesome time for him. Here is an example: When I was 15 I couldn't wait to get my license because I would be so happy and free and independent. Then I got it and yeah it was nice, but it was not the utopia I thought it would be. I think if someone says "if I have this thing, I will be happy. This is my biggest dream in life," they are not being honest with themselves or realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 03:58 PM
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I think it's more like telling someone making $75k per year that making $500k per year may not be the answer to life's problems and most likely won't bring true happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 03:54 PM
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ok I see where you are coming from. Let me add to my answer. Also TRP answer isn't really providing a method either except saying "somehow change everything you are to make you what we think these women want"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 03:47 PM
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This is one of the most accurate descriptions I've ever read
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 01:38 PM
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Thanks for the wish of good luck being single. I probably won't need it because my sense of personal happiness and fulfillment doesn't come from receiving attention from the opposite sex. If it did, I'd have to change pill colors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 01:36 PM
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if this is how you joke about them, I doubt it is lacking in genuine feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 01:31 PM
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It's a bad line of reasoning because it matters to a lot of people? So the opinion held by the majority is considered truth? Next, I've only slept with two people and even if that number stayed the same, I wouldn't want to go out with a man that judged women based on sexual history. Also I like that you assume I'm partying and sleeping around because I support the right to do so. I've been in a relationship for the past 3 years and plan instating in it. I meant that I'm going to do what ever I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 04:12 AM
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What?! I feel like I missed out on a lot of things! I didn't know I was supposed to get better grades in my (all female) school because I'm a girl. I was coddled when I fell and not told to toughen up? my memory seems fuzzy... I also didn't know that I got into a top level, female majority university because of my genitals and not because of my superior SAT scores, GPA, community service, internships, extracurriculars, essay, and application. I guess I should start that search for that poor sap …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 04:00 AM
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I'd tell John to reevaluate his priorities because there can be only one Heff. I'd also let John know that his desires are most likely a product of what society has conditioned him to believe will bring him happiness and they will most likely not deliver. Edit: (continued) The Heff comment was a more lighthearted way to say that one man surrounded by many very hot women is exceedingly rare and might not be a realistic ideal. I'd also encourage John to look deeper into himself and try to understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 03:45 AM
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I would think they wouldn't want a mate that would judge them for something as shallow as past sexual history anyway. I know I wouldn't so sexual freedom followed by a non-judgemental mate sounds like a win. In fact, it's what I'm planning on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 03:31 AM
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in the context of feminism we haven't talked about attracting men. Feminism is not about attracting men. Setting them up for failure? According to whom? Shouldn't their own happiness and freedom count as a "win"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 01:45 AM
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so why do you want anything to do with them? just use prostitutes or sex toys and stay away from the people you think so poorly of?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/14 11:55 PM
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I don't believe that TRP is a path to riches, women, respect, and success in unlimited quantities. I doubt that most redpillers are rolling in women, money and prestige. Even if you de get more money and have a lot of sex, would that make anyone completely happy or fulfilled? Wouldn't finding happiness in your own way help you more?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/14 11:47 PM
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RP absolutely affects men in a negative way. Instead of being who they are, they try to turn themselves into the "ideal" alpha male that acts a certain way. It must be truly exhausting to spend so much time trying to make yourself into someone else...and all for what? sex? the illusion of respect? To me, trading everything you are for a little female attention seems like a bad deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/14 10:35 PM
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I don't know where you learned about feminism, but I think you should broaden your knowledge. Feminism doesn't support any of those ideas. None of my Women and Gender Studies classes have ever told me that looks don't matter or that being fat doesn't matter. We have looked into beauty ideals and studied the effect on society and generally decided that looks =/= total worth. Next, we have NEVER discussed attracting a specific kind of man. Finally, sexual freedom is encouraged regardless of what a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/14 10:27 PM
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I understand where you are coming from, but let me add this: people that were abused as children are more likely to abuse their child, there is a huge quantity of adults with mental illnesses, and there are no exams, drug tests, or other means of judgement for heterosexual people's ability to raise children. Would it be right to limit people based on their personal sexual orientation when there are so many other potential hazards to children?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/14 02:19 PM
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so you wouldn't object to LGBTQ people with no history of mental illness adopting a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/14 12:37 PM
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I'm not afraid to say that I am a strong woman and a feminist. I do not believe that feminism as a movement has "ruined lives". I believe that some lives have been ruined due to some imperfects laws, double standards, and other social aspects that may have been connected to feminists or some feminist ideology. For those people I am sorry, but I don't think that the idea of equality between the sexes has ruined lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/14 02:46 PM
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Why would LGBTQ parents not be better than an orphanage? These people (regardless of sexual identity or orientation) want a child and take one in to love and care for. They offer their home, hearts, and lives to the benefit of a child. How is that not better than living without that kind of support?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/14 02:31 PM
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My parents were married for 22 years and had two children before they got divorced. The people in my home were unhappy for years and my family was not the support system that I needed. We went to family and individual therapy, made changes, and my parents did couples' therapy. This did not solve enough of our problems so my parents split up when I was 14. I tell anybody that will listen that the divorce was THE BEST THING that ever happened to my relationship with my father. I was no longer putt…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/14 02:27 PM
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And I'm sure that son is desperate for his parents' dating advice... Additionally, both my mom and dad gave me dating advice. Only one of them had ever attracted a man and neither had a successful, healthy marriage. Advice doesn't have to come from personal experience; it can come from life experience and the wisdom that comes from becoming an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/14 02:17 PM
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