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That's a really funny way of saying "I don't care if it's true or not, as long as it makes sense to me." No it isn't. It has nothing to do with that whatsoever. But it's probably because I'm female and don't understand abstract thinking or something. Whether it's actually true that women struggle with abstract thinking is of course impossible to know and "not useful anyway." How convenient. Maybe if you read a book you would understand, I don't know, but you're not interested in knowing anyway. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 09:14 PM
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Alpha/beta is all about mentality and drive, both of which are heavily based on genes. What makes Trump 'alpha' isn't his looks, it's his brain, same as Gordon Ramsay or any other typical alpha type. Nothing to do with looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 12:38 AM
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As much as I loathe TRP and disagree with many of the things they say, it's about showing dominance. It's not a serious thing, like I said I'm not trying to scare her in any way or make her feel bad, it's just that I'm compelled to do that to show her that I'm the genuinely dominant one. It's not TRP 'totally alpha' masquerading, it's pretty instinctive, I feel compelled to dominate her, and that expresses itself sexually. I don't believe in 'kink' dominance because it isn't genuine, it has to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 11:58 PM
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No absolutely wrong. You can't wrap your head around the idea that there's a place between 'I secretly want this' and 'this is rape I have to get away from this guy'. Also, I am perhaps overstating how much I do this. I'm not holding her down forcibly every week and finger blasting her. Just on occasion I poke it in and she's like fuuuck ooffff or I do it when I'm going down on her and she's about to finish, and she's too overwhelmed to really notice or care. The point is, she has made it clear …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 10:58 PM
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No I mean, allow and permit are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 10:11 PM
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But you're forgetting that the reason I first delved into this argument was over semantics. The problem I have is that feminists do obsess over words, so when my girlfriend is literally not giving consent to them that makes it rape. We do essentially have the same stance, but the difference is that you want the meaning of consent to take on some nuance whereas I want the meaning of rape too. I feel like the latter is much more important, more sensible, and more logical. To give nuance to yours w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 10:10 PM
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You're old so better to have a go at it than die alone and miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 02:28 PM
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Where are you getting this idea from? You're not basing this on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 01:04 PM
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You're simply conflating tolerance with permission. She tolerates me doing things without her permission. If you can't see the clear difference between those two things then you need to go back to the drawing board. If a random friend of hers attempted those things on her, would she just stay friends with him and say he's not really assaulting her? Of course not, but that doesn't mean that on the other hand she's giving me permission to do it, this is such a logical leap. You must go back and lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 12:59 PM
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Uh.. It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 11:54 AM
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You're like a broken record. The definition of consent stands alone, it isn't based on the definition of rape. You aren't arguing a point here, you must see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 11:41 AM
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I agree, but ambiguity has a location. I don't see it as simply the middle ground between clear and non-existent. At that point we're seeing the term 'consent' as a very abstract concept, which I think is at odds with the definition of rape that's being given. If it's ambiguous consent then am I actually sort of raping her? And is she actually sort of raping me? (not enough tho).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 01:27 AM
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Let's be clear, I'm not proposing a strict definition, I'm simply saying what isn't a good definition. I don't believe that a person with mental health issues is in good enough mental standing to make a clear judgment about the event that occurred. My point about there needing to be a victim was in response to people insisting that I had committed a crime despite there being no actual victim. I'm not saying 'if you feel like a victim then it's definitely rape'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 11:46 PM
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Yeah maybe. I'll also point out that using your definition, the other case is rape, because she feels like a victim. I don't think she does at all, she's asking if she is one. I think, as I mentioned in the thread, she is projecting her own mental issues onto the event. Similarly, I feel most feminists are actually projecting their own political views onto events like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 11:27 PM
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I'm just using it as an example to show how 'penetration without consent' as an absolute rule is stupid. It's so ridiculous to read people saying stuff like 'well, he seemed genuinely sorry and surprised so that's not so bad, but on the other hand he definitely did rape you'. I wouldn't call what he did rape, I think it was a clumsy misunderstanding. That doesn't make it okay. It's important to make sure to err on the side of caution with strangers and be socially aware, because yeah something l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 11:12 PM
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So clearly she likes the behavior, even if she doesn't like the action. Well exactly, consent is either extremely ambiguous or non-existent. If that's the case then does she 'want' in some way to be raped to some degree? Is that even possible? I wouldn't call that consent, when consent has a fairly clear definition. But all this ambiguity is why I reject rape as 'simply' being penetration without consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 10:56 PM
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But she didn't consider it rape, so she was okay with it. Except she wasn't okay with it, which is why she was like 'wtf are you doing? stop' She had never communicated implicitly or explicitly that it was okay, how are you not getting this. I had no idea whether she would be into it or not. You've literally been saying that sex with an unconscious woman is rape, unless prior consent has been given. That is consent. You started this thread scoffing at the idea of consent classes because you know…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 10:33 PM
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Well I'm okay with it but I had never given or implied consent before she first did it, which by your definition would be rape. She was never okay with it, and she let me know when I tried it. No consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 10:16 PM
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Fundamentally, rape is a crime, and a crime requires there to be a victim. I don't think it's rape if there's no victim. Both of us have done things to each other without each other's consent, but neither of us are victims in any way, shape or form.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:57 PM
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Honestly I think you did have consent since you seem so convinced your girlfriend wouldn't have a problem with it This isn't true though. I'm questioning why you so confidently consider yourself a non-rapist after saying that you don't get consent before having sex with an unconscious person. Because the notion that we're both each other's rapist is absurd. That's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:55 PM
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What difference does the occasional finger in the butt make? Gonna throw an entire relationship away because I stuck a finger in her pooper? Nah. There's another aspect to it though. When I put a finger in her butt, I'm displaying that I don't respect her bodily autonomy, which I don't, really. That doesn't mean I just do whatever I want with her body and don't care about how she feels, I would never abuse that to make her feel upset or afraid or whatever. We are both fairly 'RP' in this regard.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:53 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:17 PM
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I didn't call either of you rapists I'd argue that a non-rapist wouldn't fuck an unconscious person in the first place. Yes you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:14 PM
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I didn't call either of you rapists I'd argue that a non-rapist wouldn't fuck an unconscious person in the first place. Yes you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:13 PM
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or she's dumb Let's go with that. Nah I'm kidding. I don't know, she let's stuff like that slide because she's attracted to me, maybe she has a legitimate thing like many girls for very ambiguous consent, maybe she just doesn't care that much. Probably a bunch of reasons. She doesn't like having a finger in her butt, she says no when I say I want to, but I do it anyway sometimes. If that's not 'penetration without consent' I don't know what it is. There's no part of her that's implicitly giving …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:11 PM
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Allowing and permitting are slightly different though. A person can still be raped while 'allowing' the rapist to carry out the act, because she's scared or whatever, but it isn't the same as permission.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:23 PM
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Let's not change the subject. Actually reply to my comment. I'm not proud of anything, I'm pointing out how ridiculous you sound when you call both of us rapists and at the same time victims of each other. Your definition of rape is completely fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:21 PM
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No she isn't. Permission: 'the action of officially allowing someone to do a particular thing; consent or authorization.' It may seem like an unimportant point, but all I'm trying to show is that the official feminist definition of rape is completely flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:18 PM
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That pass , is permission/consent in my mind. Sorry you don't agree. But that isn't what the literal definition of those words is. She tolerates what I do, but she doesn't give permission.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:41 PM
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Then why didn't she let me keep having sex with her? Why was she like 'wtf are you doing? get off' when I did it? I crossed the line, simple as that, and I was never given permission to cross that line.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:23 PM
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So you trust your ability to not make her feel victimized. It means you have a grasp of her boundaries and what she would or wouldn't be "ok" with. It means she consents to what you do to her body, even if she doesn't like it or isn't ok with it. Not liking something or not being "cool" with it doesn't mean she hasn't consented to it or isn't consenting to it. I think you're still "lucky" that your judgement lines up with reality. You don't know what's going on in her head by definition, so if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:19 PM
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I went to a reddit meetup a long time ago and everyone there looked and acted pretty normal. Very disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:54 PM
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lucky that despite you not having explicitly gotten consent or knowing her state of consent, her state was consent was that she had given it to you But it wasn't though, that's the whole point. At no point was she cool with me doing that, it's simply that she understands that things that are 'bad' are an inevitable part of an exciting sex life, or she at least understands that subconsciously. You're picturing it too much as some kind of BDSM 'dom' shit, when it really isn't role-play. If it were…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:44 PM
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The only reason the action isn't rape is because she likes you. If you were a random guy she would probably believe she was raped. Exactly, it's contextual. If you both believe you're not raping each other that means you have consent. I don't think it's as straightforward as you think. Consent in these cases is very ambiguous or non-existent. I think you're redefining the definition of consent to fit your argument. By that logic, the guy in the other thread who apparently 'raped' the girl could …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:58 PM
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If being a woman automatically means I'm a feminist since I "support the female sexual imperative" (like that's a bad thing?) Then I guess I'm a feminist by your twisted perspective. No, I'm just not surprised that you are. The definition of rape as it stands is a feminist one, which is why I'm being accused of having raped my girlfriend by so many feminists and why legally they have a point. Of course that's insane, no one could seriously think either of us have committed any kind of crime. Rap…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:38 PM
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I'm not saying that unconscious people can consent. I'm saying that not having consent doesn't make you a rapist, because in that case both my girlfriend and I would be two rapists who love each other and both don't believe that we have or have been raped. If you sincerely believe that, then you're a moron, but if you don't and are just disingenuously agree with it because of feminist principles and rape hysteria, then maybe have a think about that. As to your comment about misunderstanding - ig…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:05 PM
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Do you ever think about the fact that you believe two supposed 'rapists' can exist happily in a relationship, in which neither believe themselves to have raped the other or have been raped? At that point do you ever think about how ridiculous you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:00 PM
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It's not though, it's precisely not that. If we had both implicitly agreed on boundaries it would stop actually being dangerous. There's no agreement of boundaries, implicit or explicit, rather she expects me not to push it so far that it genuinely affects her negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 04:58 PM
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I'm not a bloop or a feminist. please stop calling me one, I don't believe in modern feminism and hate the blue pill and accept many red pill concepts. I also believe men's rights are way more important than a lot of women make them out to be so, provide some damn evidence of your claims! Many feminists don't believe in modern feminism, would hate TBP and support men's rights. You still have a complete feminist mentality that inherently favors women's sexual imperative. Why wouldn't you, give th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 04:55 PM
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Yep. Then she told me to stop so I stopped, like any non-rapist would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 04:38 PM
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You don't get it. I had no idea if she would like it or not, and if I'd thought about it more I probably would have concluded that she wouldn't like it. Our sex life is founded on the fact that it isn't safe, and we keep it that way because it's the most fun. There's no implicit consent when I'm pushing it, but I'm still aware of when it would actually start to be rape and when she would actually feel victimised. Rape isn't rape if there's no victim, it's just an abstract notion otherwise. Now m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 04:34 PM
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You clearly don't understand she still "consented" even tho you didn't think she didn't. When she woke up to you inside her, she wasn't like OMG STOP !! I don't want this!! In her head. She was cool with it. Therefore it was consented to, once she was aware of the situation. Nope, she told me to stop. She wasn't that bothered, more annoyed. Before she was woken up, she was neither in a state of consent or not consent. You find out after the fact whether or not she's ok with the action. This is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 04:27 PM
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Well if it is then rape loses almost all of it's effective meaning, considering the only person who actually judged my actions as rape was some anonymous poster online. The hilarious thing is, by your definition, she's also raped me, so we're basically each other's rapist. If we go by your terms, rape simply becomes an abstract concept, rather than a genuine sexual crime. Throwing a snowball at someone is technically assault, so what? A large aspect of our sex life is based around ambiguous 'con…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 04:19 PM
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Because she consented to that action. Even though she was sleeping either there was some understanding previously that was ok or she was cool with it and you got lucky. No she didn't. But if she hadn't given her consent, woke up, and wasn't ok with what you were doing yeah it's rape. Oh my god, call the police, I must be stopped. Just further evidence that you bloops/feminists are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:59 PM
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It means that we've established what's okay and what isn't, something we haven't done. I had as much reason to believe that she wanted to have sex with me as that guy did in the other thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:57 PM
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Rick is the scientist, Morty is the kid...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:37 PM
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If she wanted to press charges against you I think she might have a case, but really that's business between you guys. Lmao, just shows how out of touch people like you are. The scenario we're talking about it a ONS, not an established relationship. In which a man raped an unconscious woman. Do you understand that? Err, excuse me? You just told me that any sex without consent is rape. Either I raped my girlfriend (ridiculous) or it's not such a clear and simple case. Make your mind up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:36 PM
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Did you read my post? I literally said we have no established consent in the first line.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:34 PM
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No, we have no established consent. I get it completely, I just understand context and am able to apply my own judgment to each situation. By your definition, I raped my girlfriend. She'd laugh and call you a moron if you told her that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:13 PM
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And I do know how consent works, and guess what? I know he didn't get it and neither did I when I tried to have sex with my girlfriend. That doesn't make it automatically the big R word, because it's contextual. If you think that then you really think I raped my girlfriend, but she would laugh if you told her that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:12 PM
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Yes, fucking an unconscious person is rape. It doesn't matter that your girlfriend is cool with it. The woman in the other thread wasn't. She wasn't, she told me to get off. Still rape? You still think I raped my girlfriend. Come on, tell me. She wasn't mad, she was just like 'yeah, nah'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:09 PM
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No one here believes that, but it's generally how the law works.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:54 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/68529x/q4everyone_does_this_count_as_sexual_assault/dgwoeeb/ I think they're more informed. No, you can't consent while you're sleeping, but that's not rape or sexual assault. If it is then that would mean I've raped my girlfriend, maybe I should go tell her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:51 PM
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Rick is a beta being trained by Morty into becoming Alpha You must be watching the show in a different universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:30 PM
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The following morning I wake up to him having sex with me. I'm kind of disoriented so I don't say anything for a minute or two but then he starts fingering my asshole which is uncomfortable for me so I tell him to stop and he abides and profusely apologizes. I leave his bed and don't confront him about this until the next day where he claims he was just trying to wake me up in a nice way. This is obviously just a guy with a lack of social awareness, not a rapist lol. He thinks he'd be happy if h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 01:37 PM
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Definitely not woke.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 01:29 PM
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Everyone knows it's wrong already. All rape 'awareness' workshops and shit like that do is create an atmosphere that scares away lots of potential desperate guys that are willing to cross the line to satisfy their pathological desire to have sex. Rape hysteria obviously has some positive benefits as well as some bad ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 01:27 PM
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I know an extremely good looking, tall (6'4) french guy who wants sex so badly that he'll go after older women and completely average girls just so he can get his dick wet. He's not the most charming guy, but he's reasonably confident and perfectly socially capable and likable. Okay guys like that are really rare, even just guys that good looking, but it's just evidence that even average girls can fuck guys that are a million light years out of their league. The idea that there aren't a ton of g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 01:20 PM
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What's the fucking point of this thread? All you've said is that women think that the people with the most attractive features are the most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 07:06 PM
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Neediness is fucking annoying in the first place, but neediness doesn't really equate to loyalty either. It signals a lack of agency in her ability to make herself happy, which translates to a lack of agency and responsibility in general. The ones who talk about how badly they need you are often the ones who end up in situations with guys where sexual things 'just happened and i'm so so sorry blub blub blub, it was the worst mistake of my life etc.'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 07:03 PM
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Meanwhile top post of r/all...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 01:59 PM
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One thing people are ignoring is your voice. Don't underestimate that. Obviously you have your natural tone and timbre but a great voice is enough to make even a less than average girl quite attractive. Don't sound like a donkey, keep your voice gentle, don't be gobby, don't sound trashy or nerdy or whatever, you know what it sounds like. You don't even need to have a particularly high voice, I know a girl with an unusually deep voice who still is really nice to listen to because it's still femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 01:48 PM
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You've picked a really bad example to try and prove your point. I understand exactly what point you're trying to make, but it's incorrect. That the whale is actually a mammal in a biological sense is irrelevant to him because he uses a definition that fits his work better. Okay, but he's still wrong, isn't he? The more he understands about animals and biology, the more he begins to see that it's actually not a fish at all, and then he can't help but see and know that it's a mammal. Let's conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:50 PM
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So what you're saying is that just because it looks like a fish, swims like a fish, and blubs like a fish... that doesn't mean it's actually a fish, because it doesn't fit the biological criteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:01 PM
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Something being a social construct doesn't make it completely meaningless. Social constructs are about how we as a culture define and perceive something that is real. If you're a man with mostly feminine traits who acts like a woman and thinks he's a woman, you're just that, not actually a woman. Masculinity and femininity are constructs that were built from our perceptions of how men and women behave, nothing more, and not separate, sex and gender are two sides of the same coin. The problem wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 02:44 PM
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That would depend on the immigrants country of origin, a boatload of Africans arriving in Korea would put up the average. Now do you think there are more Asian/latino people or more African people (not including blacks that descended from slaves) in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:41 PM
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https://ourworldindata.org/human-height/ Here's more for you. Even better, average height is likely to be taken down a notch by immigrants from poorer countries arriving.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 10:33 PM
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Your whole claim is founded on it,, if old people dont significantly outnumber young people then your claim that old people skew the average height is illogical. Oh so you have no idea how averages work? Hilarious. Of course they'll have an effect, even if they don't outnumber them. This is just simple mathematics. Make a claim, back it up, and even if true, the growth has been incremental, an 18 year old from now may tower over a man from 100 years ago but may be on average only an inch bigger …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:23 PM
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True, but you aren't using it correctly I am, you're just being obtuse. unless you can point out the exact ratios of height to age its ultimately irrelevant Err nope. I don't need to point out anything in particular, only that old people are shorter than young people. The questions you're asking are retarded. Look... do old people outnumber young enough to skew data They don't need to outnumber young people, why would that be necessary? And have you never seen a population graph? Never ever? are…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:13 PM
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The fuck are you talking about? It's such a simple point. I don't see how there can be any confusion. You aren't in competition with old people for sex, so don't count them in the SM.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:43 PM
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But my point was simply that older people bring the average height down. There's your proof that older people are shorter. If you have any other questions, ask someone who gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:56 PM
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-are-we-getting-taller/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:34 PM
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My butt. No, but it's a fact that old people are much shorter than average than young people, for a variety of reasons. It's pretty logical that the average height for young people is going to be bigger than the national average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:09 PM
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Step 2.5: Jackal dance
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:07 PM
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Happiness isn't a chemical. You can be sad on MDMA and it's not fun at all lol. Try that and you'll see that happiness is much more than chemicals, and is mostly a psychological thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:05 PM
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I'm a guy, my history in this sub shows I clearly like making people feel bad, but you're not bad looking at all. I would say you're probably above average in the face. Shortness is a problem, but even if you were average height you'd struggle. The main problem is that you seem really lame, and that's genetic, so sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:02 PM
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Keep in mind that the height average also includes old men who are substantially shorter on average. Real average for young guys is probably closer to 5'10, maybe even higher. I'm 5'9 and definitely feel shorter than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 05:58 PM
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He's not going to become a prominent MRA. This is probably enough for him to want to leave the public eye forever. He'll step down, people will forget about it, and he'll go back to his other businesses. This isn't even funny outrage, it's just fuel for self-righteous dickbags to toot their own horns. I feel bad for him. Can't even be a filthy misogynist anonymously now, hmmph, guess my political career is over before it's even started.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:39 PM
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Men don't expect women to do all of these chores. We sit around not caring and then when we do care we sort it out. The only thing you mentioned that is true is child-rearing, which hardly belongs in the same list as 'food-shopping'. None of those other things are difficult or even stressful anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 01:25 PM
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Well that's normally obvious, and even if it isn't, acknowledgment of devil's advocate doesn't make the argument any less potent. I didn't say it was always the case that motivations matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 01:14 PM
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Nah I'm just saying it's bullshit. They always create polls that are deliberately worded to produce misleading results to promote their agenda. It's the same idea as that stupid statistic that said the majority of gamers were women, but only because they counted playing games on your smartphone as 'gaming'.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 12:19 PM
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Question: have you ever played Call of Duty? Out of everyone asked, a third of those who said yes were women. So a third of all call of duty players are women. That's the logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:44 AM
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A person's motivations in an argument can be perfectly relevant to the argument. If a person doesn't genuinely believe in what they're talking about, then that can be important, especially given that what we're arguing over concerns ourselves and our experiences. I can't think of a good example, but a person's dishonesty can be revealing of what is actually true. Also, if we're trying to persuade people, sometimes it can be helpful to point out that they're full of shit. It's funny too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 12:40 AM
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There's a difference between needing to stay in the honeymoon first love phase all the time and just giving up completely on any sort of attraction and wooing. Yeah, that's exactly what I described at the start of my last post. That will still not even be close to what is offered by other guys. Some states treat fault based divorces such as infidelity different from no fault divorces. (They should) Well firstly, I'm not from the US. In most of the Anglosphere (and the West generally) infidelity …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 08:36 PM
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I think both partners can be expected to maintain a certain level of attractiveness for their partners and attempt to satisfy sexual needs for the most part. The problem is that men simply cannot reasonably be expected to maintain a level that would compare to how men attempt to attract and seduce women that they haven't had sex with yet. I can't provide my partner the same amount of attention and excitement as a guy that's trying to get into her pants for the first time. Reasonably attractive w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 07:24 PM
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It could also be that a lot of men get complacent and don't act the same way they did when they first got married. Which takes a lot of effort. There will always be men that are willing to act in a certain way to take your wife or girlfriend away from you, even if just for a ONS. It's extremely hard to maintain that level of attraction and excitement in a relationship, especially when you inevitably lose attraction for your partner as time goes on. You're either not going to be able to keep it u…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 06:37 PM
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You're such an obvious phony, come on. Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 05:55 PM
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Go back one hundred years and everyone is RP. People said exactly the same things that they say about women and the way to get women to like you was to be traditionally masculine or be a great provider. Men have always been vying for the top positions in social hierarchies. We need to go back to a time when people were just "fucking cool with each other". Are you high or something? It's true that people are less connected to each other and that this makes people depressed but what does that have…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 05:51 PM
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The point is that he doesn't really know what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 01:17 PM
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Bro your brain ain't tricking you into being attracted; that's a primal fucking reaction; you're tricking yourself into thinking that you'd be less attracted if the beauty was not genetic. No I'm not, I'm seeing that I instinctively recognise good genes and am attracted to that. Whether it's a primal reaction or a more conscious reaction isn't really relevant, it's still my brain. The fact that I'm aware of it doesn't make it any less true. I got your point but what I'm trying to get at is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 10:10 PM
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I think you've misunderstood me. I have nothing against makeup, and it definitely makes women look better for the most part. My point was just that seeing that a girl is attractive even without makeup is a huge plus, because it signals good genes, and ultimately, my brain responds to that. I can get with a girl that looks great with makeup but meh without it, but it's not going to do as much for me as a girl who looks good without makeup, not even considering the fact that she can then put makeu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 06:26 PM
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Most probably can't unless they learn about steroids, what their effects are and just how prevalent they are. That's not really the point though. As soon as the girl figures out that the guy is juicing and spending practically all of his time focusing on bodybuilding, she's going to be less attracted to him. Maybe for one night stands it wouldn't matter, but the same is true for girls and make-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 05:49 PM
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Who has it easier, male lions or female lions? Mehh, I'd say females have it significantly easier than the males. They have to hunt more but they're far less likely to be killed or sustain injuries, and there are more of them in the pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 05:11 PM
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I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 01:25 PM
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Well eventually the make-up has to come off, and even then, it's obviously better if you know the person is naturally very attractive. Same reason girls prefer a guy who is naturally athletic/strong, compared to a guy who juices and spends all day in the gym. People recognise good genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 12:39 PM
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It's not really hard, just look. I know what a person without make-up looks like, I see myself in the mirror everyday and I have a girlfriend who I see without make-up all the time too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 12:28 AM
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It's not that we don't like makeup, it's just that we want hot girls. An 8 without makeup is better than a 6 who looks like an 8 with makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 09:24 PM
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1, early twenties 2, male 3, have a girlfriend 4, rich daddy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:50 PM
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No, I live in the UK and I can assure you that working class white men from here are just as bad. I mean they invented the whole 'man in a van' shouting at women thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:47 PM
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Only lower class white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:44 PM
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Women want attractive men so if you're attractive all you need to do is really be attractive, you don't need any kind of strategy. So when you're a BP guy here who isn't a blatant feminist cuck type, you're signalling to everyone that you don't need strategy to get laid and rubbing it in everyone's faces. You can pretend to support feminism, a movement to advance the female sexual imperative essentially, because it makes it harder for your competition while you get most of the rewards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:44 PM
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IDK, it's boastfulness really. You're putting on a show of being so attractive that you can't even see what the problem is for other men. It's rubbing it in their faces while still pretending to be morally superior and like more relaxed and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:34 PM
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Sanctimony only works on retards, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:29 PM
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Did you even read my post? I'm not from the US. How dense can you be? What you described is your hatred for people Nope. Hatred is an emotion. But a blanket statement against immigration is not going to do you any good on the policy front. lol at immigrants telling natives how their immigrant policy should work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 12:10 PM
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The immigrants of what country? You know the internet exists outside of the US right? So many reasons to oppose immigration. I don't want the government allowing millions of poor, stupid people from 3rd world shitholes to come into the country just to keep wages down. The people who are promulgating these policies aren't the bleeding heart liberals, they're the global capitalists who make a killing from freedom of movement. Most immigrant groups commit far more crime than the native population, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 01:27 AM
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The latter. I don't care about them. They aren't somehow more noble or better people because they're poorer, and most of the time poor people are poor because they have bad genes, and their parents have bad genes etc. I'm not saying 'kill the poor', I'm just saying I don't care. And that's fine because they don't care about me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 01:13 AM
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Yeah I don't care about poor people either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 12:33 AM
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I'm libertarian until things start getting iffy and then I become Conservative. Basically I want weed to be legal but don't want immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 11:46 PM
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Eventually violent and aggressive men will be weeded out of society as we have less and less need for them, and they fail to produce children (as a result of contraception, unemployment, and prison sentences). Soon, the only trait that will be selected for will be cuteness, and so people with more neotonous features, like short men, will become more desirable. Mark my words, this will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 11:43 PM
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The only genuine difference between RP and BP is that BP strategy can be any strategy so long as it fits the female imperative. This is something that all bloops follow. BP women will never recommend a strategy that doesn't put the woman first, neither will BP men, and BP men who are naturally very attractive will also disingenuously agree with that principle, knowing fully well that they benefit from it and that their competition suffers from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 11:15 PM
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Doesn't matter what you read if the things you're writing are complete crap, which is like everyone in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 06:25 PM
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Problem with this thread is that Americans always overshoot what social class they and other people are in. What they consider LMC is mostly just working class, and what they consider UMC is really just middle class most of the time. Social class isn't really about money, but Mericans always think that anyone whose daddy bought a big house and a fancy car for them must be UMC.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 03:30 PM
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but nowadays its more like 80-90%. Lolwut. Not even close haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 12:26 AM
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It's the way you talk about it that sounds creepy and weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 12:22 AM
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Yeah, you get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 10:00 PM
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I'm not saying it's a bad way to get laid, just that it's not sexual. You can build sexual tension without actually being explicit about sex, but he doesn't do that because that's what's genuinely difficult. Just obviously trying to touch a person to imply sexual intent as a procedure does little to build sexual tension, neither does just saying 'that's hot' etc. It says that he's interested in her, which is enough, but it isn't seduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 10:00 PM
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I haven't used this before. Also, when this "systemization" is based on demonstrably false premises it quickly becomes clear that it's just an attempt to reinforce a worldview you already have, not some move towards learning or actual thought. Yeah, bad systemizing, like I said in the first post. If you were actually systemizing maybe it wouldn't be. Oh, you don't know what it means then, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 07:14 PM
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but in reality is just a way they attempt to control the world they live in Trying to get a better understanding of how the world works isn't the same as trying to control it. I'm pretty sure you've used this line before, it reeks of projection more than anything. There's no advantage to this supposed "systemization" when it's based on demonstrably false premises. Eh what? Systemizing is a thought process, not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 06:39 PM
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Bloops, and women in particular, struggle with abstract thinking. They like to think that systemizing types are more constricted and black-and-white in their thinking, but the reality is that systemizing is just the ability to think in an abstract way. In truth, it's the bloops that are severely constricted by their inability to separate abstract concepts from reality. There's no advantage in a debate to being one of the 'feeling' types, it doesn't give you any kind of 'realistic' or 'grounded' …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 05:23 PM
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I think the problem that it quickly turns into race-baiting is just an excuse for mods to filter out content that they find inherently disturbing, which is any discussion of racial differences whatsoever. How difficult is it to ban or warn anyone who is crossing the line? Sure, it may be difficult to discern where the line is but we're all adults and we can use our discretion. The mods in particular should be able to do that. I don't see why modern day racism is so much worse than sexism, other …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 05:17 PM
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But that's literally what it says. "some are good people" implies that most aren't. That's just how words work. Well no, words follow definitions and 'some' literally means 'an unspecified number'. It's deliberately meaningless. And if you ask someone if they agree that some of them aren't criminals, what are you asking? Well if I say 'no' it looks a lot like I'm saying that all of them are criminals doesn't it? These polls are absurdly biased and phrased in such a way that it can't not look bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 04:18 PM
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You sound creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 03:55 PM
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Oh only Trump himself and also according to polls most Trump supporters are racist Yeah nowhere is anyone saying that it's most. The Trump quote is just the ridiculous hyperbole that brought him attention. That vox article is absurd. Their criteria for Trump supporters being sexist includes if they disagree with the statement: 'Feminists are making entirely reasonable demands of men.' You seriously think this is a credible source? Their criteria for racism is 'how much you acknowledge and empath…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 03:55 PM
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What a strawman. First of all, no one cares about immigrants who don't cause crime, the problem is immigrants that do, which is why they're the focus. Who is claiming that most Mexican immigrants are criminals? Who? I've never seen that. Maybe some stupid people, but most Trump supporters aren't going around stating that as fact. "but statistically seen they are even less criminal than the locals" https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/what-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-illegal-im…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 03:23 PM
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I think it really begins when they reach their early 20's. I can't speak for older women after that, but my experience is that guys in their teens can often shoot way out of their league with girls in their teens that don't understand their value yet and are new to sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 12:16 PM
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Well yeah, women rarely hit on men, let alone overtly approach them, though sometimes they do. They still demonstrate and direct their interest towards attractive guys though. Who and where are these ugly girls hitting on guys out of their league though? How do you know this? IDK, everywhere. I'm a pretty attractive guy and have had plenty of fuck ugly girls constantly trying to talk to me between classes (even though I'm not friendly to them whatsoever) and messaging me on facebook when they've…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 12:12 PM
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There's nothing sexual about it, I talk about that in some of my other posts in this thread. He's marking himself out as an attractive, potential sexual partner but he's not actually building any sexual tension between them at all. It's very polite, friendly flirting, and that's more than enough if you're a relatively attractive, confident guy hitting on a slightly above average who probably doesn't get that much attention from guys like that who are confident and attractive, and also have socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 12:04 PM
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I know a bunch of ugly girls who only hit on guys who are way out of their league. And on dating sites fat guys will hit on hot girls with no shame Ever been an attractive guy on a dating site? No? So you don't know that girls do the same thing. You're not basing this on anything, and you're ignoring all of the ugly girls who hit on attractive guys, as well as all the fat and ugly guys who have far too low self-esteem to hit on anyone (and these make up the vast majority of these men). You only …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 11:43 AM
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Yeah but these fat guys aren't going around hitting on hot chicks. They aren't doing a lot of hitting on any girls because most fat people have terrible self-esteem issues. And are these fat women hitting on the fat guys? Doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 11:30 AM
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When a fat guy hits on a fat girl You just said that ugly (so unattractive) guys don't hit on ugly girls though. You're not basing this on anything, there's no logic to your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 11:26 AM
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Right and you're basing that on...?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 11:21 AM
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And ugly girls ignore ugly guys too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 11:14 AM
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Really? She doesn't debate anything, just has a wildly, unrealistic view of how smart she is and lashes out at anyone who challenges it. The whole 'nothing is real or has meaning' etc. shtick sounds like it's coming from an overconfident high schooler who's just started taking philosophy classes. It makes me cringe. Everyone here can't stop sucking her dick just because she's a chick that acts like a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 09:58 AM
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I'm gonna puke.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 09:48 AM
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Yeah but his attitude isn't sexual. His approach was predetermined. He wasn't driven to her because he saw her and was compelled to talk to her out of desire, he did it because he's generally thirsty and made it a habit. His friendly demeanour just shows that, there's nothing sexual about him in this video apart from him going 'derr that's hot' occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 11:38 PM
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You'll just end up with a few very deserved margaritas rolling down your face. Which ironically is actual assault, and maybe one of the best examples of the pussy pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 10:43 PM
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It isn't though, it's barely sexual at all. Watch the video again and you'll see that it's just a friendly interaction with some very mild, polite flirting. There's almost no sexual tension between them at all. It's obvious that he wants to get in her pants, but he's taking a fairly covert, non-sexual way to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 10:15 PM
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Well if you can make the assumption that a taken+committed woman would pass over Mr. Reynolds, it's it so hard to believe that a lesbian woman might? Or that a woman with her children wouldn't want them to her her fling herself at a man? Or that a woman would disqualify him because she previously dated a famous actor and hated the experience? Or what ever other thing? Yeah sure, we're just talking about women that don't have these other factors influencing their decision, just ordinary, single, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:59 PM
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Lmao, you literally can't read. Yes threatening behaviour is disrespectful but what I said was that disrespectful behaviour is not necessarily threatening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:36 PM
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You'd be surprised how many women can and will reject a guy for whatever reason. There are girls who turn down famous musicians and actors just so they can tell their friends that they did that. Image is so important for women, and doubly so for politically-minded lefty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:16 PM
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Well okay, if you're taken + faithful and you're not thinking of this in an abstract way, then this is pointless. I'm just trying to get at this point that once the kind of guy approaching isn't abundant, most girls aren't going to shrug it off unless they see the approach as being insincere. Of course, there's the other factors that you mentioned, and I get that. Most people will find it difficult to believe that such an attractive person is that interested in them, or don't want to get involve…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:13 PM
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Yeah it is disrespectful, but you said that a man shouldn't be surprised if a woman calls the cops if he approaches in a disrespectful way, and that covers more than just the threatening and aggressive behaviour that you described, it could just be being rude and obnoxious, but that's not a crime. Your attempt to mansplain how I should feel in any situation I didn't even do that at all. Get your head out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:03 PM
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Depends on your perspective I guess, as other posters have alluded to. Some people prefer feminine features and others prefer masculine features. To your point about gay men, there's also a whole current of gay men who are obsessively into bodybuilding and other macho aesthetics. Once you take make-up and clothes away, it's mostly pretty similar. Men generally have worse skin and go bald more easily because of testosterone, but after that it's probably pretty similar. I mean, aesthetically there…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:01 PM
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Is this something he told you or a conclusion you reached? He told me. He's just he or everyone who approaches woman? Pickup artists.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:54 PM
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Lol do you realise you're going to the every human is selfish route? Is a hole you can't yourself out because almost everything we do is selfish. No I'm not doing that. Like I said, I don't care to discuss ethics here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:48 PM
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I think you've confused 'disrespectful' with 'threatening'. You can't be catty if you don't even know how to English.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:47 PM
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But no, even if Ryan Reynolds bumped into me while grocery shopping and immediately fell on to one knee to propose to me, I'd still not drop everything I was doing to suck his cock. Yeah I just don't think this is true. Not the sucking cock part, but the idea that you'd just shrug it off. I think you're being quite dishonest here and I think you must know it. Because I'm an adult, and I know if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. Well you're not hallucinating. This is just a hyp…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:44 PM
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Is this bad? Bad as in morally wrong, or bad as in ineffective? And who are you asking is bad? Gotta be more clear with your question. The whole point of the video is enjoying yourself while you approach a girl. So I dont know about you, but I like to meet new people and I love to talk shit, so if every interaction you have to a girl has to be sexual that seems more like objectifying. You're talking like he's not interested in the conversation and just wants to have sex with her. Doesn't really …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:30 PM
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Should have hung up and called the cops.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:22 PM
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So, if he approaches a woman in a disrespectful manner... he shouldn't complain if she calls the police It's 2017, guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:21 PM
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It's more nuanced than that. Ryan Reynolds interrupting your shopping is okay, Ryan Reynolds who has fallen in love at first sight with you and wants to marry you even better. Generic attractive guy, meh. There's no abundance of Ryan Reynolds, so no abundance mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:19 PM
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Straw, so If I sent many cvs I'm being insincere to the company that accepts me?? Maybe. Probably in the case of most applications. I know I've had to bullshit a lot to get jobs. What pick up have you been reading? There's lots of videos on youtube, and pickup forums and subreddits have existed for a long time. I've also actually read 'Bang' by Roosh V, but it wasn't very good. How do they approach women? Do they use any different form of comunication? That's an interesting question. All I'll sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:10 PM
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So how is it insincere? Well like I said, the entire time he's trying to obscure the fact that he is really acting in order to have sex with as many attractive women as possible. This is what pickup, at its essence, is all about. Pickup relies on its insincerity, because if you give away the fact that the girl you're talking to is interchangeable, and that you're relying on certain techniques, roles, and strategies in order to seduce her, you'll fail. Even the name, pickup, is crude. Pickup arti…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:45 PM
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So you're not associating pick up with insincere behaviour? You called me a liar, you said that is not surprising that I'm into pick up and associate it with me not understanding sincere behaviour from insincere. You're obviously saying that pick up has to be insincere. Sure I am. I do think pickup is insincere. It's pretty much the point anyway. PUAs want to have sex with as many attractive women as possible, and of course they don't want to convey that to the woman they're approaching at the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:17 PM
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Now to your point tell me how else can I interpret what you wrote? You clearly associated clumsiness to authenticity. You said that I claimed that it must be clumsy for it to be sincere or authentic. BULLSHIT. I said it generally is how it is, because we're talking about recognising behaviour. I even cleared up that point if you're genuinely not intelligent enough to see that, but you still went on and completely and deliberately misinterpreted what I said. you associate being PUA as necessarily…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:02 PM
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You're referencing my comment and deliberately altering what I said because you lack any kind of integrity whatsoever. I'm revolted by you and your comments in this thread, and it's not even remotely surprising that you're into pickup and can't discern any difference between sincere and insincere behaviour. I'm perfectly right to be getting annoyed by you, considering you're completely misrepresenting what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 05:43 PM
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Bullfuckingshit liar. Stop making things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 05:33 PM
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So if a man improves his social skills makes him less genuine, he has to be clumsy to be authentic, rationalization? No, I never said that. That's what it generally is, like I said, rather than what it has to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 04:11 PM
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It's still a pick up, but it doesn't make me a pick up artist. Every guy that approaches women outside it's a pick up artist? Maybe if you made it a habit, followed certain procedures and techniques etc. That would make you a PUA. If you just occasionally saw a girl you were attracted to and tried hitting on her then I wouldn't really call you a PUA, but guys like that don't act like the guy in the video. It's generally much clumsier, but clearly more sincere and genuine. She didnt seem bothered…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 03:18 PM
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Pick up artists didnt invent pick up. I mean I approached women before I even knew it had a name. So I don't really get your point. Cavemen painted on walls before they even knew art had a name, doesn't change what it is. Says who? The video is about self amusing, so for you he's not enjoying the conversation? Did I say he wasn't enjoying it? Where did I say he wasn't enjoying it? I just said it was inauthentic. There's no substance to the conversation. He's just dominating it and directing it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 02:52 PM
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Lmao the first guy gives himself away as a PUA the moment he opens his mouth. Seriously, no one just approaches people on the street like that unless they're PUAs. "You looked adorable with that cake... and you know what that cake is probably for me" Who are you kidding dude. That guy is following the PUA handbook to the T. Thing is, it's not just the obvious tricks and manoeuvres that give him away, it's his demeanour and way of speaking. The only sincere thing he said was the first line, 'Hey …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 02:12 PM
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Do you honestly not see how transparent you are? Literally everyone thinks you're a joke here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 11:10 AM
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It's funny because there's so much more anger in your post than there even is at TRP. It's really obvious that you're fuming when you write such an incoherent and self-absorbed tirade that has very little to do with the question, one that you clearly don't care to be answered but just serves as an excuse to post rants online about people that you apparently don't care about. OP, if you took the time to stop being so obsessed with yourself, you'd actually see what everyone else sees, which is exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 10:56 AM
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None of her partners agree with her. She just only dates spineless guys that lie about what they think so they can get some action.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 10:21 AM
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What was the nuclear rejection?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:00 PM
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Big labia look like the lips of those alien thingies from Rick and Morty. Sorry, can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:41 PM
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Women don't like being judged. There's so many different avenues that you could go down from there, but it basically boils down to that. That's pretty much all feminism is about nowadays... no judgment for being fat, no judgment for being a slut, no judgment for literally anything that women do or are. It's not enough to apparently believe that being fat or a slut isn't 'wrong', and you're perfectly entitled to believe that if you don't, but most women are especially adamant that everyone else b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:34 AM
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Porn uses lots of camera trickery to make dicks look unfathomably huge, but they really aren't that massive for the most part. The trick is to look at the hands, because then you realise that they look huge too, and that the girls' vaginas look enormous as well. Sure, there are some porn stars that are seriously well-endowed, and you can tell that they're packing a solid nine inches or so, but most are probably around seven inches in reality. It's strange because, looking down at your own penis,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:29 AM
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James Deen really doesn't look that big tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:19 AM
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I don't know man. I've just noticed that a lot of older people, maybe I should have specified women, look at you like you can do know wrong and that you're wonderful and stuff. Maybe it's that age when they're thinking about the future and see that there's still hope left. But I'm kind of a piece of shit a lot of the time, definitely not an angel. I know for a fact that I receive better treatment from my lecturers and teachers because of it, and to be honest it makes me feel more entitled to bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 02:52 PM
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Being attractive and smart is the real shit though. You know when you're both of those, older people (40+) look at you like you're an angel.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 02:42 PM
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There's no such thing as u/atlas_B_shruggin
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:00 PM
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That's not how girl game works. One side of female attraction is created by her, the otherside is created by her playing with your mind, making you like her more. It actually doesn't though. I don't know what kind of weird idea you have in your head but when she's being a bitch it's not at all attractive. Like, we have almost broken up several times because she pushed it. It certainly doesn't make me want her more, it makes me find her repulsive. The woman wants to be his Maybe in your dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:01 PM
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No it's not. If she wants to be attractive she already knows how and she can just combine that with not being bitchy. I don't want a submissive/first-mate thing, it's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 04:39 PM
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What if she's using that information to better figure you out? She can use her intuition. The fuck how is browsing TRP going to help her understand me when I don't even agree with it in the first place. All I want for her to do is be herself without being a bitch, I don't want her to start trying to figure me out and start acting weird to try and make herself more attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 03:49 PM
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2x is a default sub, it's constantly shoved in our faces for no reason. I'm not interested in what goes on there at all, I just know that any girl who is drawn to that sort of thing is bad news. IDGAF about discreet sexism either. My girlfriend is well aware that I'm pretty sexist, but she just doesn't see it as a big deal, and why should she? What difference does it make to her? I'm not interested in having discussions with her about whether sexism is right or whatever (I don't mean discriminat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 03:27 PM
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Even weirder tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 03:17 PM
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Nah, I have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 12:16 PM
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Whenever I see a lot of Muslims males, they seem to have a strong, dominant attitude about them Ha. No. It's almost entirely feigned and non-existent when they aren't in a group. The 'barbaric' behaviour, let's take the Cologne sexual assaults as an example, is just an example of lower class carnival-esque behaviour. There's nothing actually dominant about it, it's just violent acting out because they envy the West but can't be a part of it. Harassing and sexually assaulting teenage girls isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 12:13 PM
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Well I have a girlfriend, so I guess not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:42 AM
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The draft is probably the most perfect example of how the government retains covert control of men's bodies. The idea that feminists would agree with or be in favour of the draft for women is preposterous. The government would be equally justified in forcibly impregnating women if the population started to rapidly decline, or something like that. There should be no draft in the first place. If governments want their citizens to fight for them they should make it worthwhile. Besides, I don't thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:40 AM
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Weightlifting in boxing is way more controversial than this. It's actually kind of a myth that weightlifting will make you slow and sluggish with your punches, but you can see why its been so widely spread, it's boring and strenuous. Most trainers will advocate a reasonable amount of lifting to improve stability, particularly for the lower back. Besides, they have to operate within a certain weight class. Anyone who's ever wrestled with a 'aesthetic' guy of the same weight will know that, while …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:31 AM
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Not even RP but if a woman browsed reddit to the extent that she knew about it, and gave me the impression that it bothered her I probably wouldn't pursue anyway. There's no fun in getting involved with a girl who's monitoring your every word for sexism, and any time you tease her you assume she's going to go post on 2x about this douchebro who was negging her all night. A girl who browses reddit for anything more than cute photos of animals and funny pictures is probably not worth dating, espec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:17 AM
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There's so many holes in your argument. It reek of confirmation bias, or you just making things up, tbh. I've never seen any attractive guy actually be annoyed by it. I mean, I've 100% seen plenty of girls having no problems by being the active ones, even when the guy is attractive, so who's right? Maybe they complain because the girls are less attractive, and maybe the girls are being too aggressive. Maybe they have such an easy time getting laid and enjoy the process so much that they can affo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 11:11 AM
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Jesus fuck, learn to read. I don't have any time for double negatives. Learn to write. No. He is requesting that the driver do something for him -- not to him. It's both. He is literally asking that it be done to him. There's no escaping this, the passenger is the direct object. Is a man who asks a woman to make him a sammich passive because she's the one making the sandwich? No, the sandwich is. The woman isn't doing anything to him. How can you not understand this by now, jesus chriiiiist. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:52 AM
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I don't think you have a point at all. Why would people who don't get hit on ever complain about being hit on? Women who get hit on all the time also complain the most about getting hit on. What's your big point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:13 PM
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Attracted by and aroused by can be used interchangeably in a sexual context, tbh. Not at all. Arousal is just a state of sexual excitement. Lots of women report arousal when they are raped but that doesn't mean they're attracted to their rapist. I'm attracted to girls all the time, random girls that I see on the street or on the bus or whatever, but I wouldn't say I'm aroused. Again, this is an example of your lackadaisical approach to what words actually mean. You don't give a fuck. I am saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:10 PM
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Nevermind to that last point. Maybe I'm sleepy. Just lets go with, 'no shit' that the people getting hit on the most get laid the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:44 PM
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I'm on my phone so bear with me because I can't quote. 1, no you don't understand that I'm talking about roles. A role doesn't need to be believed for it to be undertaken. With regards to the taxi driver analogy, the passenger is taking a passive role in the dynamic for as long as he is willing to. He is being driveN somewhere. The act is the driving yeah? It's not the person telling him where to go, that's a demand, the passenger isn't acting on the passive driver. The driver takes the submissi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:42 PM
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One is eliciting continued interest, the other permission to approach. Both are acting. No come on, otherwise you're reducing my definition of 'passive' to unconscious, or dead, if you count breathing as an action. I'm talking about roles, one is active and one is passive. You're just being obtuse here. Well, yes, by the very definition of attraction -- when he can't perform he is not attracted to her Nonsense. Men as a general rule need to feel dominance over the woman to get hard, it has nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:39 PM
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But why? The man is also the ''object'' (of the woman's desire). Because we're talking about the wider context of the sex ritual. A woman looks at a man and thinks that she wants to be fucked by him, whereas a man looks at a woman and thinks that he wants to fuck her. Maybe that's not the case for you but for the overwhelming number of women it is. He's moving towards her and smiling so that she'll become attracted to him and react. Yes, and give him more indicators of interest so that he can pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:45 PM
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I really don't get this. Dude is standing still, looking. Woman is dressed up, moving in a suggestive way & dude is the active one? You're not looking at it in the wider context. The woman is the object (the passive one) and the man is the subject (the active one). The woman is being proactive in making herself an attractive object, but she's still nevertheless the object and is turned on by the fact that she's succeeding as the object. She's dressing up and moving in an attractive way so that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:11 PM
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Literally just go outside and see muscular, good-looking guys get laid very easily. No one gives a shit who some dweeb on a relatively obscure subreddit thinks. Normal women don't come here, and normal women also don't have normal taste in men. Most girls think reddit is gross and eww, especially attractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:41 PM
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I'm not. I'm just saying -- who is really ''active'' and who is ''passive'' in that situation? The woman is making herself an attractive object. The man is still the active one in the dynamic, the woman is just being proactive in rendering herself as a more attractive object. Woman is doing the same thing to the man via form & figure. Do you think she was born wearing a LBD, with crimson lips? I'm not saying the woman is not also seducing, but she's doing so from a passive position. The woman do…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:25 PM
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Because the pay gap is bullshit. Obama's recognition of the debunked pay gap (which he knows is bullshit) is more indicative of the incredible pandering to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:43 PM
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Cool, so don't make that about female arousal, then (which you did initially. I largely agree with you about actual fucking, but arousal is different). I was obviously talking about the context of sex between men and women. If I weren't I'd be saying that for women to be aroused at all in general they need a man to be seducing them. I have a girlfriend who watches porn and masturbates so obviously I know that's not true. In a real situation between men and women, outside of fantasy, the girl doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:42 PM
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I'm not talking about just being aroused in general, I'm talking about the acts of building up to sex. If women get turned on by doorknobs or cartoon dogs or whatever, it's got nothing to do with what I'm saying. I'm saying that for normal women to have sex with a man that he has to actually seduce her, because if he doesn't she won't be turned on by him. This comes in a number of stages, from what you described as first being noticed to putting on the final moves, it's a gradual seduction. I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:58 PM
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We're talking about people in official positions here. Trump made a joke about grabbing a girl by the pussy, but even in his joke it was consensual, it was just pretty vulgar, not sexual assault. The point is that this was in a private setting before he was even in government. The point is that women have such an elevated social status which is exactly why MPs can openly laugh about serious male issues during parliamentary discussions, so not just in their personal lives, but in their official p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:38 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15491274 https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/2c44/14cde6b6a011e9f4910e6389d658278e3a7a.pdf Plenty more material out there on google if you're interested. They do not pander towards women. They pander towards their electorate. I already mentioned that they're the largest voter demographic. You're missing the point though. It's about societal expectations. Women have an absurdly elevated position in our society to the extent now that even criticism of feminism is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 10:48 AM
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It's not an ''active'' role, but the turn-on is there for a lot of women, ime. And there's 0 ''seduction'' by the male involved. And in order to maintain that arousal she needs to retain the passive role and be seduced. She might already be turned on but that doesn't mean she's going to start going after guys because fundamentally her state of arousal has everything to do with being the object. It's not because people will think she's a slut, it's because taking the active role is a turn-off for…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 10:38 AM
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Depends what culture you're looking at. Lived with an Arab dude who thought a virgin was much better, and this wasn't a case of religion either. He smoked weed, partied, ate pork etc. Just thought that a virgin was better for some reason, but he never actually said why.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:36 PM
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1, You said 3 hours every day, most girls don't do full makeup every day. Dude, I have a girlfriend who can do great makeup in twenty minutes, and doesn't go over an hour even for big events when she wants to look as good as possible. She can do a decent job in ten to fifteen minutes if she's quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:11 PM
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Dude, you're literally just changing what you're saying. No one's saying that guys know how make-up works, I'm just saying that guys know it doesn't take three hours like you suggested with your earlier post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 02:48 PM
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Just stop, you don't have a point. Any guy who's ever had a girlfriend knows how much time women spend on their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 02:43 PM
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Lmao no, your point was that you know one girl who in no way can be considered even close to the norm for how much effort women put into makeup and beauty. Literally how can you even think that your example proves any kind of point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 02:32 PM
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We're obviously not talking about your ridiculous exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 02:26 PM
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Just talking about normal women, like 95% of them. The last line is bullshit too, women don't like the active role in ordinary sex, so for the vast majority of women if you don't take the active role in turning her on there won't be any sex. I'm sure you can think of plenty of examples of girls jumping on passive guys and having a great time, but I doubt they fit the criteria of 'normal'.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 09:50 AM
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Women can get dick whenever they want to, and it can be high value dick, no problem. The thing is that women want to be seduced so a woman, even though she could easily get it, can't just go up to random guys and ask if they want to fuck, even if they're attractive guys. Straight up, if women wanted to (and some do, but they're weird) they could get hot guy after hot guy (or at least someone of much higher SMV) every night just by being very active. They don't though, because they don't want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 11:07 PM
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That would be a valid point if politicians had in-group bias, which time and time again they're proven not to have. Politicians, male or female, are overwhelmingly biased towards women, they pander to them, not only because they're the largest voter demographic, but also because of feminism's effects on society. What does it matter that the politicians are mostly men if they overwhelmingly promulgate policy that discriminates against men in favour of women. It'd be like trying to say that the le…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:58 PM
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It's not really hard to stay in shape. And girls don't spend three hours everyday doing make-up and hair. Most girls can look good with just fifteen to twenty minutes a day on their face. There's a difference between dolling up for a big event (which realistically doesn't take more than an hour anyway IME with girls) and just doing standard daily make-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:02 PM
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They're not showing off for anyone else, it's for their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 02:54 PM
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Ted is really whiny but he's not unattractive, has ambition, and most importantly never stops trying and always takes chances. FA people aren't necessarily unattractive, they just won't be the active participant in sex and dating, and their negative body language means that any chance of a woman actually pursuing is reduced to nil.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 02:40 PM
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Nice dude, I'm definitely gonna look into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 07:15 PM
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Oh shit dude I'll check it out then if I can just get it like that. You sure it's not just placebo or? Thing is, at the time it wasn't bad at all. I'm pretty sure I had a great time for most of it, and I was too busy just doing things instead of thinking about it. I think the anxiety in reflecting back on it comes from thinking about having been in that state which is so unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 12:35 PM
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Nah, it was definitely MDMA, it wasn't in pill form and it was my girlfriend's stuff which she had used before. Besides, I've done MDMA several times before and it was definitely just that. It was more that I was so focused on going after girls that I didn't really feel empathetic. I might have been a bit, obviously it's hard to remember accurately because it was such an unusual experience but it was in a pretty trashy club and pretty much everyone there was drunk. It wasn't about getting laid a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 12:22 PM
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Sure but for casual sex it probably won't make a difference. Most temperamental guys can at least hold it together for one night, but you can still tell who they are for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 12:10 PM
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That's interesting. MDMA is what I would go for if I wanted to hit on girls at the club but honestly, it just makes me feel so anxious and dirty thinking back to when I last did it when I was out. At the time, I'm pretty sure it was great even if there were pings of anxiety, but I didn't feel empathetic at all, I felt like a predator... not necessarily in an immoral way... like I wouldn't have pushed any boundaries that I didn't ordinarily have but I felt very predatory. Obviously it worked pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 12:09 PM
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Amphetamine? Like meth?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 10:56 AM
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LOL at everyone thinking beta = crippling shy and terrible social skills. The very good looking guy will slay unless he has some kind of genuine mental disorder. I've known quite shy but extremely good-looking and tall guys who, after a few drinks, can get girls' attention with no effort whatsoever. Average-looking isn't a good place to be if you're a guy. Seriously, how many girls want an average-looking guy who's really aggressive and gets angry really easily... versus a guy who probably has d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 09:51 AM
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It's about leverage of power in any relationship or encounter. The person who demonstrates greater power (it can be any kind of power, physical, emotional etc.) over the other person will dominate the other person if the other person accepts that person's dominance (i.e. is submissive). If not, they'll either clash or the less powerful person will remove him or herself from the scenario. This is usually subconscious. Women aren't really that submissive at all, especially not in relationships wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:13 PM
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Sorry for not replying, I was sick. I was wrong, I was appealing to authority, lots of authorities. You're appealing to fallacy fallacy. WTF am I talking about. These are the people who are expanding the definition to discuss this exact context that we're talking about now (persuasion and manipulation). If you have an issue with how they've expanded the definition then go ahead, make a case, but if you don't then you can't just stubbornly deny it and cling onto a glossary of logical fallacies ht…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:15 PM
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Stop trying to cling to the appeal to authority fallacy, I don't give a shit. Yes you do, you give all the shits, because if you weren't so convinced that I was appealing to authority you wouldn't have an argument. I'm saying you should read it because it might give you some understanding of the argument, but you don't care anyway, which is why this is so stupid. The truth is that for me, you can either accept the definition because you don't give a shit and just accept that the people who give …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 12:30 AM
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Holy shit, how fucking dense are you feeling tonight. I've never seen you write so much crap in so few words. It's not just a PDF, it's a series of well-conceived ideas putting forward a coherent conceptual framework that is well-established in academia. Oh so what, academia bleh bleh bleh who cares. Okay, well it does matter because these are the people who have actually thought about this before, not people who arrogantly assume they understand a deeper concept because they google'd the word t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 12:10 AM
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It's not a random PDF, it's a PDF that I specifically looked up because it's considered to be one of the best academic books on propaganda and persuasion as a field of study. The dictionary definition isn't wrong, it's just that there are a lot of concepts that are too difficult/long to explain in a dictionary. Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, ideology etc. you can name any concept and never find a satisfying explanation of what it actually is. Again, we're talking about concepts, so our unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 11:52 PM
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Except you just made this up. No I haven't. http://sttpml.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/propaganda-and-persuasion.pdf I understand that it's tempting to say I'm making things up, but it's a well established definition. You don't have to read the whole thing, it's in the very first paragraph. FWIW, 'persuade' when used as a verb has a looser definition, but when we're talking about persuasion as a concept, especially in discussions about manipulation, it's helpful to make the distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 11:12 PM
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There is a difference in definition between persuasion and manipulation (usually just called propaganda though). Persuasion is when someone is trying to act in someone's best interests whereas propaganda is when the person is acting in their own interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 10:53 PM
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Many girls, mostly introverted girls, don't put out a sexual front. They may get some attention, but it comes either in the form of obtuse harassment or 'beta-orbiting', because they themselves don't present themselves as sexual objects to be acted on. There are lots of perfectly attractive women out there that are pretty, have big butts, are smart and funny, but don't receive as much serious romantic attention because men aren't seriously sexually attracted to them. This is really the first sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 01:51 PM
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Sounds like law am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 10:53 PM
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Competitive workplaces in this instance. Women in general are simply not as driven to compete, and I think even most feminists would agree (although they'd frame it as a negative quality). This lack of drive makes them less capable of keeping up, and it makes them less driven to learn how to properly compete. I think men are naturally more savvy too. The way men and women's brains work is different, and I'd say in work environments men generally have the edge. We're better equipped to innovate a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 09:54 PM
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In general, and in this environment, women are mentally inferior. I'm not saying that all women are mentally inferior to all men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 09:33 PM
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Yeah sure, doesn't mean that one really smart, driven woman won't end up being there though. The female mentality isn't suited to this environment, but just as men adopt feminine mentalities, women can adopt masculine mentalities without pretending to be men themselves. Let's say I'm an employer and I have someone come into my office asking for a raise. My first thought is 'ah fuck that, I don't want to give more money away' and that's true regardless of gender. The second step is for them to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 09:32 PM
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First of all, 'male aggression' relates mostly to men who cannot take no for an answer. Does it? Since when? I think if you wanted to talk about men who cannot take no for answer you could have said that. Aggression can come in many different forms. This study shows It actually doesn't really show anything, you know that right? because employers want them to shut up and be pleasant and take less money Like, you know this is just speculation right? The study doesn't actually show this. I'll throw…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 09:07 PM
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You seem to define 'natural masculinity' as naturally abusive towards women. I think you're projecting. Nowhere have I done that. Of course feminists will fight against a man who offers less money to his female employees and treats them badly when they ask for a raise whilst respect their male colleague who does the same. Or they hate the fact that they don't have the balls to work as hard or negotiate as well for a higher salary. This is why feminists are envious, because strong women who are w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 08:36 PM
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Yeah, it's pretty obvious. Lots of feminists openly have disdain for men, and I find it difficult to believe that the rest don't secretly have similar thoughts. Men are basically constantly on probation for feminists, and only the ones who significantly curb their masculinity (or are naturally very feminine-minded), are given a pass. It's a bit of a cop out to say that you don't hate men, but just hate all these masculine characteristics and traits that most men have. Really though, I think the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 08:11 PM
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We're back together again (kind of). I'll propose some kind of swinging to her at some point, she expressed some interest not long ago, but I don't like the idea of polyamory tbh, for me sure, but not for her... That's a stupid idea though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 06:08 PM
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I'm sober and back together with my girlfriend again yay.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 06:05 PM
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Feminists are BP. Feminists are systemizers (patriarchy theory etc.), narcissistic (women's march over nothing, other sanctimonious protests and virtue-signalling etc.) Don't pretend that you're less ideological and narcissistic than everyone else, especially when you make posts about how one group of people totally suck and you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 09:25 AM
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Women want a man, they feign/desire submission(compromise) as needed to get and keep that man. Yeah sure, feign submission, but that doesn't mean they're actually submissive. RPers aren't dominant just because they feign dominance either. Would you respect a God you did not fear? Yeah, sure. Literally anyone who makes other people feel afraid doesn't get my respect because that means they're not smart, and I can't respect anyone who isn't smart. Anyone can be scary and what scares me more than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 10:48 PM
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She still does it because of wanting him, so submitting for him is how I see it. Sounds more like compromise. It also doesn't really make sense that women want to be submissive to a man then, by your definition, if what they secretly want to do is feel obliged to do things that they don't want to do. Fear is usually a part of and adds to respect. Sounds like bullshit you're just making up actually. I've never associated fear of a person with respect. I'm more afraid of scrawny junkies than most …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 10:06 PM
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Yes I do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 09:23 PM
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However, a man can challenge the things a woman wants to do too. She may give a shit and still defer to him, which would be an act of submission. But if she will depends on how she sees him and how much she cares about whatever it is she wanted to do. She'll do it because she ultimately sees it as being the best possible option, given the situation, not out of submissiveness. There's a difference. Okay, she wants something but if she doesn't want it more than she values the relationship then she…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 08:52 PM
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I'm sure some of them do. Shit-testing is dominant behaviour anyway. 'Hey buddy I'm going to say or do something just to annoy you or upset you and the best you can do is eat it up and pretend it doesn't bother you' lol. Obviously you've never properly pissed off a woman though I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 08:14 PM
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You're not dominant over her dude, she just doesn't give a shit. Watch when she actually gives a shit, or you say something bad about her to her face. Seriously, women are submissive? Women blow the fuck up if you even say something wrong that you didn't think about, but men do nothing when their girlfriends or wives start ripping on them for washing the dishes wrong lol. Unless she's genuinely afraid of you, you'll never curb this tendency.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 07:41 PM
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Lol it means they don't want to be told not to get drunk and go dancing with their friends too. It's hardly 'domination' if it's over stuff that she doesn't really care about, and especially when it's stuff that she doesn't want to have to deal with in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 07:26 PM
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That women secretly want to be submissive in their every day lives by a man. Being submissive isn't the same as wanting a man who will decide which restaurant you're going to because you're indecisive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:58 PM
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LOlololol0--009999 it's because it's unattractive if that's what you are. Gotta get some nstank.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 09:13 PM
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Can't villify lads mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 09:01 PM
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Yeah just getting drunk but i'm gonna call her and see if i can get the last train to go see her. you know her problem is that i was never content because i wanna fuck everyone secretly and hated having my sex life shut down but man i'm still wanna get her back and she loves me still. i need her really badly man, i'm an idiot/.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 08:57 PM
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Kayne's a classic type A creative personality. Dude has super ego problems, crazy insecurities and believes he's the greatest artist and rapper to have ever lived, basically thinks he's jesus, while at the same time believes that he isn't and that he's a big phoney. He has no idea how to control his ego and hasn't really ever had to learn how to because he's so famous and can continue to feed it. Eventually that stops though which is apparently what's happening now but I don't really follow himt…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 08:53 PM
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I think me and my girlriend are finally broken up. I'm an arsehole and an idiot but now I want her back and am gonna go all the way back to where she lives from my big butt city. I'm so lonely, sheeeet :(
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 08:39 PM
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So dread game
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:21 PM
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Let them have their vote tbh. Lots of advantages to them leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:13 PM
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You've got a big problem with your definition because it puts a big intelligence cap on being 'alpha'. Not having control means not being successful, by your definition then alphas don't really care about success. Or you're just making stuff up without any rhyme or reason to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 10:06 AM
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Look at her face. A lot of the time you can just tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 10:01 AM
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Sex positive = women getting to fuck who they want without social stigma. Male sexuality is what normal women want. Demonizing male sexual behaviour may be appealing to bitter hags, but ultimately will result in less and worse sex for most women. Plus, it will do nothing to stop sexual abusers who don't even care what feminists think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 04:47 PM
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Most of it is psychological. The physical is pretty simple, you go in and out and vary the pace etc. but honestly that's a pretty small part of it. Technique just comes with practice. Women want to be the object of the entire sexual process, which means a while before you even touch each other. She needs to be seduced if she's going to enjoy it, even if sex is on the cards because it's the third date or whatever. You don't have to be smooth, fine it helps, but actually the main thing is that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 11:48 PM
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He went up on stage in front of huge crowds and did all sorts of things that would make most people shit their pants. Have you ever done anything that terrifying? Also, there are a lot of reports that he was in the early stages of dementia and decided to off himself instead of pointlessly living through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 08:17 PM
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in that case don't date someone with a history of infidelity... promiscuity is a different animal. Again, this isn't the argument we're having. I've never even said I disagree with this point. You're assuming the cheating is due to issues in the relationship, but she might just want some strange. And the lack of communication is still a problem. There is an issue if she's willing to lie and put the relationship and family at risk just to get some 'strange'. I think you're under-estimating how mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 07:23 PM
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You're really obviously dodging the point. First of all, I don't care about the first point and I've made that clear. I'm addressing a point you made that was obviously horseshit. second of all, most cheating never comes into the open. the shitty truth is that undiscovered cheating doesn't affect the family. it's a horrible thing to do, but it usually goes unnoticed. But it can still easily be discovered and the point is that the mother is putting the family, and therefore the child, at serious …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 07:03 PM
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it is moralizing. it's considering the potential for something wrong and hurtful to the husband over motherly traits and calling it the same thing. Uh no. It's saying you're a bad mother because you've now seriously threatened (and frankly, irreparably damaged to some extent) the very fabric of the family. If you're prepared to risk the well-being of your child for your own sexual thrill. You understand that just because if hurts the husband doesn't mean that it won't also hurt the child right? …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 04:12 PM
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Gross, I bet she has one of those really angular haircuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 02:57 PM
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I don't care, I only commented in response to your stupid 'moralizing' argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 02:56 PM
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Most people think cheating is wrong and this has repercussions that have a tangible impact on the child. Whether it is wrong or not is irrelevant, it makes the kid's life worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 01:58 PM
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So how much money exactly is reasonable to take from a man after tricking him into impregnating you? When does it become too much?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 12:15 AM
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I was referring to a kid who was not the man's. There are actually examples of this happening. Besides, it doesn't really make a difference. Forcing a man to pay for a kid that he never wanted and was tricked into creating is just as heinous and that happens all the time. That's a result of feminism. We women pay taxes too. If you want us to be in the higher tax brackets in higher numbers, by any means promote us more. So your argument here is to fix the problem by throwing even more money at yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 02:05 PM
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It would be how to force him to raise your kid even if he does not want to by manipulating his sexuality. Isn't this what feminism has achieved via custody laws lmao. Or even just through taxation, with men paying the majority of tax, especially rich, single men and single mothers receiving the majority of government handouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 01:45 PM
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Can you expand on the reward centers being different? What do you think causes the difference aside from genetics, what actually makes the change? Genetics controls how much testosterone to release and when for example. Well I'm much more in the 'genetics are by far the most important factor in terms of personality' camp. I think the difference between type A and type B all comes down to how much stimulation is required, and what is necessary to essentially poke those reward centers. What makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 12:27 AM
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Women in general aren't funny. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 11:50 PM
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I'm not confusing things, we just obviously share a different understanding of what type A and type B means. For me, there's a fairly distinct difference between type A and type B people and that this difference is genetic and has to do primarily with reward centers in the brain that require greater stimulation. This creates a kind of drive that's different to the increased drive that comes from a boost in testosterone, however increased testosterone is obviously going to result in more behaviou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 11:47 PM
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Simply being aggressive and competitive doesn't make you a type A person. It has more to do with reward centers in the brain that influences a person's drives, rather than just the natural extension of being a healthy man. You could take a typical type B and pump him full of testosterone and all it would do is create a type B person with more aggression and energy. Otherwise type A women just wouldn't exist... but they do so... You don't suddenly become a type A because you started lifting and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 10:44 PM
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are clearly on the autism spectrum, to varying degrees. Unless it's explicitly stated, there's absolutely no way you can discern that lots of RPers are autistic. Systemising is just far more typical among men, it's not something that appeals to them, it's something that's innate. Even then, just because systems of thought are established doesn't mean that they're autistic. What the fuck is feminism if not an incredibly black and white system of thinking about social dynamics. Does Anita Sarkeesi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 09:59 PM
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Alphas are pretty much a combination of high testosterone and type A personality. Just having high testosterone doesn't really make you alpha, anyone can manipulate their hormones to have high testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 09:45 PM
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Justin Bieber only meets one of those points. LOL 80% Biebs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 01:03 AM
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That's still normal. Just like 3.5 is still ''normal'' (the lower end of normal). http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/normal I don't think the chance of you encountering one that size is normal as per the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 12:59 AM
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Or OH MY FUCKING GOD [MY FORNIX]!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 12:55 AM
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I imagine it would also convince her to keep having sex with the guy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 12:51 AM
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Yeah, Natalie Portman is just perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 07:40 PM
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I can see it but I don't wanna put my penis in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 07:37 PM
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She has a Chad jaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 07:35 PM
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I think this is a good analysis. There are some more points to be made though. Firstly, Le Pen is very right-wing on certain issues but actually more left-wing on many other issues. It's not quite correct to put them on a linear spectrum and say that Fillon would then necessarily sweep up the left vote, and that is partially true with Macron, who's more of a Trudeau-esque idealistic leftist rather than the traditional french leftist type which Le Pen better embodies in some ways. Le Pen will ste…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 08:14 PM
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But also stop pretending colonialism wasn't anything but the brutal extraction of resources and forced labor in other countries I've never talked about colonialism. also stop continuing to exploit third world labor Well you do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 05:16 PM
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I'm talking about France. I lived and worked in France and speak French.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 05:05 PM
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Gen Z are woke though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 03:50 PM
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The FN has undergone a massive change in the past six years. Jean-Marie Le Pen's FN is not the same as today's one and times are very different. Back in 2002 they won 18% of the vote and they were a fairly openly anti-semetic party with no serious party policy and without the current political and social conditions. Okay, admittedly Chirac back then wasn't a strong opponent, but neither is Macron or Fillon. Obviously I can't say who'll win but I do believe that they have a good chance. Ordinary …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 03:49 PM
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Mass red pilling. I don't think one person can actually achieve a lot, but Trump has had the effect of influencing a huge number of people, either directly or indirectly. Nothing can be achieved until the marxist brainwashing is dealt with, and it's vital to do that as soon as possible or something genuinely terrible will happen. Well I have no idea what will happen but what I do know is that soon enough muslims and Africans will represent a very sizable minority, and then a majority, in Europe.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 03:40 PM
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Trump appears to be a mess because he's the wrong fit for the political system. I would be worried if everything appeared to be going smoothly because it would mean that he wasn't doing anything. Trump is a perfect mess (except about the environment). The truth is that what's going to happen will almost certainly not be pleasant, but the proper solution to a problem often isn't. No one feels good while undergoing chemotherapy. The reality is that either Europeans will fall or they'll fight back.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 03:04 PM
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Didn't most polls say that Clinton would beat Trump?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 02:22 PM
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It's far from doubtful that Le Pen will win. She stands an excellent chance. Not only do polls always show conservative candidates as doing worse than they actually are, her opposition is a guy that almost nobody really knows and is relatively feeble.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 02:21 PM
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Not related to feet. Have small feet but 6.75 inch willy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 12:42 PM
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1 in 5 seems low if it includes any kind of sexual assault (groping etc.) I'm a pretty reclusive guy and I can think of at least two times that I've been 'sexually assaulted', once by two girls and once by a tranny.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 06:19 PM
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I'm not trying to make her change her mind, I'm trying to make her look stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 03:32 PM
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That poster just asked a question, it wasn't an assertion, you're imagining things. Now that you understand this you're free to interpret the meanings of those words in whichever way you choose. Yay, discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 02:21 AM
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Most people realise that if everyone thought the way that you do that society would collapse, and so people continue to act in a way that takes into account the interests of others. Shit-tier societies are the ones that never understood this simple principle on a larger scale. You go along with it because you don't want to be an idiot, not a moral obligation maybe as much as it's simply that you don't want to be 'that guy'.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 02:00 AM
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Cut the misogynistic bullshit and maybe we can actually have a civilised discussion. We can have a civilised discussion without you claiming I'm 'stalking' your post history too. It's only girls who do that, I'm right about that. Do guys find that weird? No, annoying if they use ad hominem but I didn't actually do that so who cares? I clicked your name because I prefer to know if I'm going to be wasting my time with someone who can't/won't actually debate properly. You might want to look up the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 12:07 AM
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...Did you stalk my comment history based off a single reply? That's super weird dude. It's one of your most recent comments. I didn't 'stalk' your comment history, I just clicked your username which is what I do with most people who reply to any of my comments. Guess how I can tell you're a girl :/ get over yourself. My "lame copypasta" is a well-thought out response to a common misconception based on reading I've done myself. Right, but it's copypasta that doesn't address what is actually give…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 06:07 PM
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No, I did. I read them before you even replied. This paragraph: Theoretical assumptions: The very complexity of the human condition is sometimes itself offered as a reason why psychology cannot be a true science. In epistemological terms, this relates to the various theoretical assumptions of science, including those of systematicity (the ability to orgnanise scientific knowledge into a coherent system) and generality (the ability to create laws and principles that are applicable in different co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 05:31 PM
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I read your copypasta, it doesn't even respond to the very short article that I linked to you. You simply describe family resemblances to the sciences, you don't address the actual reason why it's not considered to be a science.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 05:20 PM
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http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/13/news/la-ol-blowback-pscyhology-science-20120713 Do even a little bit of reading about it and you'll realise that you're wrong. 'Testing' doesn't make something science automatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 05:04 PM
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Far more about the women though. Ultimately, they care about what the other men think... but what the other men think of you is based on the degree of sexual validation that women give you, so it always comes back to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 02:35 PM
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No psychology is scientifically valid. Psychology isn't science.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 12:53 PM
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It's less about approval from friends and more about sexual validation from the women themselves. Sure, men generally care what their friends think about their sexual value but more important to them is what women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 12:34 PM
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Chocolate
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 10:30 PM
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Height matters but it's not as simple as it's presented to be. Not being tall won't stop you from having sex with very attractive girls, that is if you're average or slightly below average. It does lower your chances of that however because certain girls place more emphasis on height than others and won't even consider guys that aren't tall, but it's not a direct hit to your SMV. If you're average-looking there's a limit to what you can do for the most part. It's not that your chances are reduce…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 01:29 PM
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Systemising in arts too. You really don't know what it is, really obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:20 PM
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Most of them got into business/finance/law after university, spent five or six years dating around, and then ended up with someone who they worked with at some point. No one's meeting at bars and clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 10:57 AM
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Uh no, I won't. Most of them met as clients and then almost immediately started dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 09:01 AM
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Talking about middle/UMC here, professional class, in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:59 PM
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For me, and in my environment/culture, it'd be crazy to have a kid that early. Usually people enter the workforce at around 21/22 and it takes at least five years for them to be certain of their ability to provide and for a woman to also be sure of the man's ability to do that as well. Having a baby with a guy fresh out of university seems like a massive risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 06:05 PM
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Yeah I think past 35 you're going to struggle, and even past 30 it gets very difficult, but late twenties is usually when UMC people start getting serious about it and it usually happens fairly quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 06:02 PM
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Not that long. Again, two years is pretty common here. My mother and father met when they were twenty eight and married at thirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 06:01 PM
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high value people-- good marriage prospects-- generally pair off by the end of college at the latest, which leaves poorer relationship prospects to date each other. This must be a cultural thing. I don't know a single person whose parents got married before twenty-eight probably at the earliest and these are UMC, good-looking, successful people. Honestly I think i'd be fairly shocking if I met someone my age (early twenties) whose parents were still in their forties.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 04:48 PM
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You gotta do some more reading instead of specifically looking for negative examples that you can't even reasonably link with their diets. What's the average lifespan of an NFL athlete's career? You can name thousands of meat-eating athletes whose careers also went to shit from a serious of injuries at one point. You can also find plenty of athletes who are vegan that have had very long careers in sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 02:42 PM
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The idea that men were manipulating women into sex back in pre-civilization days is pretty far-fetched. You weren't just wandering around meeting random chicks at bars (or watering holes? IDK) back then. There was very limited opportunity to actually manipulate anyone, and the truth is the other elements of attraction were far more important than 'game'. You can't trick someone into thinking that you're actually a totally alpha hunter guy if you can't also prove it. Game works (I guess) because …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 07:41 PM
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Yeah, and losing numbers too. The Left has a problem because it prizes ideological purity over pragmatism, and that's exactly why the Left is losing all over the place, in the US and all over Europe, most places are taking a turn towards the Right. The fact that the Left is more radical than it has been in recent years benefits the Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 05:40 PM
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I love seeing where this goes. It seems like the Left's response gets crazier and bigger in response to smaller and smaller things. Trump's attitude to abortion/LGBT rights is practically non-existent, he has no ideology there, he doesn't give a shit and yet the Left seems as if the threat has never been greater. The Left can't go backwards so they're just going to get crazier and crazier, I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 04:01 PM
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Doubt it. Can you even think of something that he might have done to warrant having the police arrest him? If he's telling the truth about what his ex did, which let's assume he is because we have to, then it seems unlikely that he was the aggressor, or was stalking/harassing her etc. I mean the law is that the man gets taken away unless there's clear evidence that it's the woman at fault, and this isn't uncommon. All it takes for her to throw any fairly reasonable accusation at him and he's get…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 02:47 PM
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Oh my god, it's so simple. I never said that girls will put up with shitty treatment, I said they'll put up with bad boyfriends, and repeatedly made it clear what I meant by that, and that the more sexually attracted they are to him the less it matters, to the point that a woman will put up with a bad boyfriend, despite having other options, because he's very sexually attractive. That doesn't mean that under no circumstances will a woman leave a man if she's extremely sexually attracted to him, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 10:41 PM
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Well you just completely changed the focus of the discussion. This discussion was never about why women leave men, it was me pointing out that women will put up with bad boyfriends if they are very sexually attractive to them. We don't agree on that point, don't shift goalposts so it looks like I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 10:26 PM
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I'm clarifying why it wasn't necessary for me to point out that there are other factors to why a woman might stay or leave a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 10:20 PM
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No, you ignored my point just then. I made that point in the context of the original discussion. I'm not backtracking, I'm clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 09:32 PM
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They are relevant to the discussion if your argument is that women who won't tolerate shitty treatment are just not sexually attracted to him. But I'm making that point in the context of the discussion we've been having all along, I'm not introducing it as a new point of discussion. I shouldn't have to clarify that there are other factors. Of course, genuine abuse will make a woman stick around with a bad boyfriend a lot of the time, but that's got nothing to do with the original discussion. I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 09:19 PM
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You're equating the two like there's nothing else which is a factor here. Just because I'm not considering other factors doesn't mean I don't think there are other factors, it's just that they aren't really relevant to the discussion. We're talking about the effect of sexual attraction on women and how they respond to it, and this is one context in which the topic is relevant. We aren't really having a discussion about the various factors that keep women in relationships with bad boyfriends. FYI…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 08:43 PM
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He is the man I've most been sexually attracted to. As a woman whose had lots of options for lots of other men, he's the one who is most sexually attractive to me. And if any of those other men had been more attractive then you would have gone out with them... that's my point. The most attractive guy you ever had is not the most attractive guy possible, he isn't the limit for how sexually attracted you can be to someone. That's not what I said, I said I might have some insight, not that "I know …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 08:34 PM
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I was never talking about her own personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 08:17 PM
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To the point that he's the man I've been most sexually attracted to in all of my life. And yet I still broke up with him at one point for being a shitty boyfriend. You were most sexually attracted to him because guys who would be more sexually attractive to you don't want to go out with you. While this may be true of some women, it's certainly not a general trend. Most women don't put up with bad boyfriends because they never get a boyfriend who's attractive enough to put up with. Then, having n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 08:15 PM
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psychology works by surveying and analyzing to parse their thought process. not jumping to conclusions because you've seen some people act a certain way. psychology is all about subjective experience, whether you like it or not. Wrong, "Psychology is the study of behavior and mind, embracing all aspects of conscious and unconscious experience as well as thought." You have no idea what you're talking about. psychology is all about subjective experience, whether you like it or not. Because everyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 08:09 PM
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Harry Potter isn't geeky.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:57 PM
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Most of us in LTRs are very sexually attracted to our partners. To the point where if he were a shitty boyfriend you'd still be there? Or do you just mean he's reasonably good-looking, in shape, and capable of giving orgasms. Not the same thing. I mean, I'm a woman. I might know a thing or two about what women want. You've never been a man in a relationship with a woman. This is a shitty argument. The fact that there's some who will put up with shitty RMV for higher SMV doesn't mean we all would…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:55 PM
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When the balloon pops, conscious consideration of desire goes out the window. They may hold off if they don't want to get pregnant or whatever, but it's not because they're considering if they actually want to have sex with the guy. What guys don't want is for a girl to not have that moment, they don't want her to finally make the conscious decision that he's good enough to have sex with for whatever reason, they want it to be compulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:48 PM
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you are making declarative statements on an experience you have never and could never have An experience? No, I'm not. and using your experiences interacting with women as evidence of your mindreading abilities... No, I'm using my experience with women and the patterns that I've noticed as evidence of how women behave and why they behave that way. This is just how psychology works, what you're doing would make all psychology redundant, which is what feminists want anyone with their obsession wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:45 PM
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Sexual attraction is built up. It swells up like a balloon, but most guys don't do enough or just aren't attractive enough to make it pop, which is what girls and guys want to happen. Instead, it blows up a little bit, and depending on the girl's standards and how desperate she is, she then goes ah that's enough I guess and then let's all the air out. For a relationship and/or sex, the majority of girls don't care that the balloon gets so big that it pops. There's always a point where a balloon …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:37 PM
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I'm not talking about looks, I'm talking about sexual attraction. Guys who are capable of making a woman very sexually attracted to him and who also wants to stick around are rare, and girls will put up with a lot to keep hem around. This isn't my experience. Probably not, that doesn't mean it couldn't be. It not being congruent with your experience doesn't mean it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:32 PM
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it's impossible to have a debate with someone who's argument is "if you don't feel this way then you must not have experienced enough of something." it's an insincere argument, and I think you know it. If you'd allowed the discussion to continue it may have gone something like this https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5oxb8y/article_discussion_the_top_20_traits_women_want/dcn0cvv/ You're not good at discussing things though. and this has nothing to do with feminism's generalization…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:29 PM
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One thing I agree with on TRP is to not take women for their word, same with men, but women get particularly uppity about this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:19 PM
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there's describing your experiences and making one of those educated guesses of yours (in my experience, women tend to do x) and then there's sweeping generalizations such as the one you made. You're only saying that because you disagree. if you make such a gross generalization and people-- especially the people you're generalizing-- disagree with you, you're going to get called out. I don't think it's a particularly wild generalization in the first place, I think you just assume I'm saying that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:18 PM
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Nah I disagree, you were right before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:12 PM
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Sex and other stuff that comes with relationships, mostly sex though. Most women don't even care about your RMV if you're attractive enough anyway. I'm not dependable, or empathetic, or useful, and she has more money than me, but my girlfriend still tells me I'm a good boyfriend because she's attracted to me. No guy seriously gives a shit about how good he is at being a boyfriend if he has anything else. As far as I'm concerned, if I can't get by on just being attractive to her then it's not goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:11 PM
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I didn't say that, you missed the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:06 PM
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I have never claimed to speak for all women... that's what you're doing No, I'm not speaking for all women. That would mean I was speaking as a woman. I'm speaking as me, a man. you have no idea what my experiences are I can make educated guesses about what they aren't. once again, as someone who has never experienced desire as a woman you are no expert This is the whole point of this sub, you realise that? Men and women trying to discuss how men and women think. It would be a pointless forum if…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:04 PM
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I didn't say anything about Chad. I was just clarifying in case anyone thought I was talking about that. People assume I'm a RPer a lot despite having a purple flair. I have yet to find that point. Maybe I'm just not around people who are attractive enough, but I think a lot of women take the "comfortable" thing into account. Not necessarily, "Is he kind and gentle and does he have good values?" but at least "Do I trust him enough?" But yeah, what is "enough" varies among women. I find that it h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:01 PM
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They're undisciplined because they don't care. Nothing is stopping you from going on a run, you just don't want to go on a run because you don't really care that you're overweight. People don't convince themselves that they don't care, they convince themselves that they do care which is why they get so frustrated. Again, anyone who genuinely cares about anything will put the effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:40 PM
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I don't think it does, given that you've never had to think about how to have sex with women as a man at all. You're limited by your own experience and reflection, and you haven't had the opportunity or outside perspective that would allow you to spot patterns in how women as a whole respond to desire. If you've never been in a position where an overwhelmingly attractive man was pushing your buttons hard then you wouldn't know, but you'll always consider the most attractive man to you in your ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:37 PM
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It's easy, most guys just don't care to be dependable. Like, it's not difficult for me to get to work on time, I just don't care about getting into work on time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:31 PM
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Remember what? Are you colourblind, what does my flair say? And yeah, self-control, there's always a point where self-control is broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:26 PM
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Right, and to that end, you may never have been in a position where a guy has made you feel like that, and if that's the case then you wouldn't know what I'm talking about because you've never actually been with a woman who's experiencing that. You might insist you have but that's only because your understanding is limited to your own experience and anything outside of that is alien. You're one woman, and you're a woman who spends a lot of time posting on reddit and has a feminist perspective, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:25 PM
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Yeah but seriously who gives a shit, being dependable is easy, anyone can be that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:18 PM
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I don't believe in the 'only Chad gets girls horny' thing, I simply believe that if a guy knows how to push the right buttons and is simultaneously overwhelmingly attractive to her then girls will give it up very quickly without any conscious consideration of his values or how comfortable he makes her feel. It's just a compulsive thing and every normal girl has a point where she shuts off any of those considerations. Not saying this happens regularly, or that it doesn't occur on a spectrum of so…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:17 PM
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You're welcome, I'm sure you've had a lot of experience having sex with girls as a man yourself, haven't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:03 PM
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Firstly, I'm not, and secondly I never said that men don't care about the actual relationship. Men want sexual validation far more than they want to hear that they're such a lovely boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:32 PM
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Yeah bullshit, if a girl isn't desperate to have sex with a guy she isn't seriously attracted to him, and no girl who's genuinely craving that is going to say no if he starts making moves, not nowadays now that there are no actual repercussions to it. I'm not talking about drunk girls at bars FYI. I'm saying that if it looks like a girl is holding off to make sure he's going to commit or to make sure that she really likes him and sees him as being good for a relationship then she's not genuinely…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:31 PM
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That's not really the point. They just want a girl who is actually turned on by him, and doesn't just judge him to be good relationship material. Really only completely lames, feminist men actually give a shit about being valued as good relationship material and are proud of being considered stable or fatherly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:02 PM
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They want a deeper connection with someone who is actually turned on by them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 04:54 PM
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OP called out for vanity in previous thread --> gotta purify yourself --> "won't someone think of the poor african children?" :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 03:05 PM
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They're aimed at lower intelligence people (although you'd be surprised actually) but that doesn't mean that the same general mentality has some crossover with people that don't read that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 02:09 PM
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This isn't just something The Sun would post, the Daily Mail probably would too, and that's supposed to be the most popular online newspaper in the world. Ultimately, it's just indicative of a wider feeling towards men and their sexuality in general. I'm not saying the media is making people think this way, it's just that it represents how people already think at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 02:00 PM
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Because lots of people read them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 01:06 PM
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But that's a philosophical exercise, and people don't understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 01:02 PM
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Well then you're just wrong, that's fine too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 12:54 PM
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'Be yourself' might as well be the same as 'stop trying', 'relax' etc. Maybe you agree, but I don't think you've put it very well. It's not about recognising aspects of your personality that are immutable and being aware of not trying to pretend that you're not like that, the problem is deliberately trying to give anyone any impression of yourself. There's a genuine you, which is the you in the present moment that you can be perfectly aware of, and then there's the 'you' that you perceive to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 11:38 PM
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Hummm well I agree with what's written in that link entirely but I don't really see how it's relevant to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 08:52 PM
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Well yeah but TRP looks at evopsyche in the wrong way too. I'm replying to people who think that evopsyche doesn't have a hugely important, primary even, place in the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:57 PM
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Consciousness is perfectly natural, if you're saying it's unnatural you're really just saying it's artificial... which you could but that's a different discussion entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 06:19 PM
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we control our diets Because our health is fundamentally bound by nature, and is in accordance with our genetic makeup. we force ourselves to sit at desks for 9 hours a day, we sit around letting someone dictate abstract facts to us for 18+ years of our lives So that we can acquire resources for survival and for the ultimate purpose of reproduction, whether for us or for the tribe. shit we force ourselves to arbitrarily lift weights and run in place in the hopes that in the future we'll look bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 06:18 PM
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This thread is pure vanity, completely pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 01:17 PM
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Languages are systems too. I'm not sure you fully grasp what systemising is. It's not just STEM, or about physical systems, it's a thought process itself. Different kinds on brains are drawn to psychology... yeah because it's mostly girls with daddy issues or a naive desire to help other people when they're completely unequipped to do so. Philosophy also pulls in pretentious guys and burned out girls. At a high level though, it includes just as many systemising people, they just do it to a diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 01:06 PM
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The only reason anyone thinks TRP has "gone too far" Never said that, literally never said that and also never implied that it had gone too far. It's intellectual lethargy. So is copying and pasting something that has absolutely no relevance to what I'm saying. I'm not talking about the result of their thinking being simple, I'm talking about their thoughts being simple. I'm not saying that TRP is wrong because it's too extreme or because it makes use of generalisations. I'm saying it's wrong be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 10:37 PM
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aye aye cap'n
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 09:34 PM
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No. Why married or LTR? There's no reason to make discussion so concrete like that. People can go about their lives however they want from whatever perspective they like, providing their posting habits don't have the effect of limiting discussion or promoting closed-mindedness. And no 'FRs'. You could bring up examples of times you scored or how someone reacted to something etc. in the context of a greater point, but it's not a place to post chapters in your diary. The emphasis is on original co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 09:26 PM
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Lot of ego behind that statement. Lot of ego behind this keyboard! Firstly, this is just a hypothetical subreddit. If we want to talk about reality, well this is it... I of course haven't made that sub because I know it would never work. TRP was broken from the start because their main goal was to help large groups of men, whereas I have no special interest in helping anyone, rather I'm really mostly interested in having a place to develop ideas, and obviously those would actually serve to help …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 09:09 PM
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If I'm the only moderator then I can ban whoever I want. I'm not a woman FYI and I literally said in my post that I wouldn't have a problem with misogyny, no moralizing. It would be like TRP, only flexible and intelligent, based more on genuinely good philosophy and psychology rather than the absurdly reductionist nonsense over there. TRP is too much like a support group or a guide, rather than a place for people to genuinely develop and share their ideas. Anyone could chime in with their own id…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 08:39 PM
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Nah, not at all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 08:13 PM
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It would actually be pretty similar to this one, with plenty of open discussion and debate around sexual and social dynamics, however I'd completely ban any wishy-washy and self-righteous blueness, as well as any close-minded and boring redness. I'd keep it a purely male forum and strictly no moralizing. People can say as much 'reprehensible' shit they want, but similarly there's no expectation that any of the discussion should be 'misogynistic'.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 07:04 PM
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Yeah, all the people saying that losing your virginity is no big deal are the ones who had to have sex to actually realise that. It's not the sex, it's the not being a virgin and the not knowing what it's really like that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 03:12 PM
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Psychology and philosophy requires systemisation just as much, if not more, it just also requires much more intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 01:51 PM
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Really obvious that most of you over there are just a bit narcissistic and don't want TRP infringing poorly on your territory. So funny to see one bunch of people who are full of shit start calling out another group for being the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 11:13 AM
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A very small minority genuinely prefer no makeup. EDIT: Usually what guys really mean when they say that they prefer no makeup is that they want a girl who's pretty enough and has nice enough skin that they can go without makeup and still look okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 01:49 AM
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UMC white people will get into that if they're corrupted by drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 12:07 AM
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One of those guys is the founder of Visvim, fuck is anyone going to look anything like that. He dresses that way for his spirit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 12:04 AM
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I'd give it a go but I'm not paying for one and I'm not keeping it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 04:19 PM
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So reinforcing patriarchal notions of masculinity/femininity is okay as long as it appeals to the tiny minority of people who actually believe that such notions aren't okay. That makes sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:30 PM
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But if no feminist would ever admit to your definition, what exactly is the point of your argument? If I'll never concede, why engage? When have feminists ever conceded that they're full of shit? Feminists may not think that crying is feminine but they know that society sees it that way. It's not a coincidence that out of all the possible ways that they could make fun of men for complaining that they choose to focus on men crying so much. Of course, any feminist worth her salt would immediately …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 07:39 PM
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But it's not just that at all. It's turning around the whole 'women stop crying about your problems' accusation that men apparently all go around saying to women, and the accusation is that crying is feminine, that's why men say it and that's why feminists know that it stings men more. It's willful ignorance or just plausible deniability to say that it's simply a coincidence. The reality is that feminists who say this sort of thing are just playing on the fact that society sees men crying as bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 07:17 PM
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It's similar to saying "cry me a river". How?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 05:57 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5o02oy/the_creep_accusation_is_invalid_and_cannot_be/dcfkdwt/ This is my first post. Nowhere in it do I talk about or consider how it makes men feel sad. You can't just randomly throw arguments into a conversation just because they have some relation to the original debate. I only posted because I was interested in the original debate. I don't give a shit about how it makes men feel so why are you making that part of the argument, it's not relev…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 03:30 AM
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Are you saying that I look at women as objects? No, I'm not. I'm saying that we're discussing how men navigate the SMV. Men are the subjects, women are the objects. We aren't talking about how women act as the subjects with men as the objects. How is it irrelevant? if guys are mad that they're being called 'creeps' without intending to be creepy then that makes it relevant to the discussion. No it doesn't. Just because it's related to 'creepiness' as a point of discussion doesn't mean it has any…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 03:22 AM
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That hilarious. If you can't even post it then it makes me inclined to believe that you're full of shit. Are you kidding me? I literally said that everything I ignored I said was irrelevant, so if you care that much go back and look at what I ignored. Right, men who are approaching women and getting called creeps for it. Yes, women as the objects, not subjects. So then why do frustrated men get so much flak for expressing their frustration? they're playing a game that's rigged against them and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 03:11 AM
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No it hasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:54 AM
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Like what? Who cares, if I ignored it it's because it was so irrelevant that there was no point in even replying. You must have not come across one of those posts then. Because one post is indicative of a widespread belief. Go on, why not make a thread right now. It can say 'Q4BP: how many of you believe that physical attractiveness doesn't matter?' Save me wasting my time arguing this point. Play within your league, but what about when women refuse to play within their own league? Who cares, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:48 AM
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Like I said, it plays a role. But there's so much stuff that isn't universal and can't be explained with any kind of fertility -- very thin women in some cultures, very obese women in others, extreme paleness, tan skin, etc. Beauty standards change wildly across time and place, and not for any reason you can pin on evolution. They're trends but they aren't the fundamental indicators of attractiveness. Certain physical characteristics are essentially fetishised but they aren't the basis of attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:42 AM
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Well firstly, that has nothing to do with what we're talking about, don't shift goalposts. Secondly, don't be such a pansy. People think and say 'reprehensible' things all the time, everyone deep down is a bit of a shit and the self-righteous act rarely lasts. You really think that the most likable people are the ones who have the least 'reprehensible' views? IME, people tend to find them to be quite insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:36 AM
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Sexual attraction is largely dependent on societal cues. I'm not saying that evolution doesn't play a role, just that the role it plays is relatively minor. You spend your entire life getting fed one idea of what an attractive woman looks like and that's what you're going to find attractive, regardless of whether it indicates "fertility" or not. But you just made this up. It's not actually true. Facial symmetry, waist:hip ratio etc. are all proven to be universally sexually attractive in the opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:30 AM
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Saying 'fertile' = reprehensible?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:28 AM
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Yeah because the first thing I want to talk about is sexual dynamics when I'm in social situations. Look through your post history and tell me how natural it would be for you to say any of what you say in your posts, not paraphrasing, word for word. Yeah, you'd sound ridiculous too lol. I mean, we're literally on a discussion forum to discuss sexual dynamics, and obviously fertility is an aspect of that. No one is going to avoid saying that because it would sound really weird IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:12 AM
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I've ignored anything where it's clear that you're not trying to make a point, but just ranting. Yes, it's unbalanced, the vast majority of people here agree with that. Bloopers on the other hand will question the very notion of SMV and will say they know ugly guys who can get girls. This is entirely untrue. I can give you that guys often overestimate their attractiveness, but I can also tell you that many guys are well aware of their league and hit on women accordingly Sure, but they might be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:07 AM
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I shut them down coldly and then I text mean things about them to my girlfriend. I don't label them all as creeps and stalkers just because they're ugly, and neither do women. Most ugly men are completely invisible to attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 01:25 AM
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Tinder might give you an idea. There are fatties on there who openly state that they want a tall guy with biceps and abs. Tinder's the same thing as the club, probably worse even. They aren't looking for a relationship, they just want to have sex. What about when it's not in a club setting though? when a guy hits on a girl that he knows from a mutual social circle say at a party or something but still gets called creep? I'm saying the creep label can be used loosely not just in a club but in any…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 01:21 AM
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Yeah but most women don't even do that anyway. I don't see why it's any worse to talk about guys being creeps online than it is to talk about girls being sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 01:11 AM
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I am in the kitchen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 01:08 AM
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No, the answer is to pick your spots. You can approach everyone but don't be surprised if everyone starts to call you a creep and security kick you out of the mall.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 01:07 AM
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I'm a guy, so no I don't. And yeah, ugly girls who hit on me creep me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 01:00 AM
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Yeah exactly, which is why they get shamed. If you can't handle being rejected and called creepy then GTFO.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 12:53 AM
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Well then women would become bitchy in response to every guy hitting on her and try (and succeed) to make him feel awful about himself... aaaand we're full circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 12:35 AM
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I'm thin! Due to good genes I am able to eat mostly crap and not exercise and maintain a body in keeping with societal standards Me too lol. Doesn't matter what I do, how shit I eat and how little exercise I do, I always look pretty athletic. This is not wishful thinking. I directly benefit from the fact that men are not attracted to fertility. Men are attracted to a lot of different things. I really like thin girls as much as I like curvy girls. They do different things for me. I mean, it is sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 12:34 AM
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What about when guys do hit on girls within their own league but continue to encounter girls who only want Chads? Either they're over-estimating how attractive they are, or they're in the right league but she's just not interested for whatever reason. There's no way to know that the girl who's rejecting you is holding out for 'Chad'. First of all you're strawmanning by implying that guys who get called creeps are socially inadequate when I've been trying to explain that totally normal guys also …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 12:29 AM
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I don't talk the way I write academic essays. People change their language depending on the situation. Maybe 'fertile' was just the word he thought was most appropriate, and why not, there's no judgment here. I mean, does anyone talk about this stuff in real life? How many people here ever use the term 'sexual market value' in real life? I've seen almost everyone here say that. I think this is much more a case of wishing that they were the way you imagine them to be and taking the tiniest shred …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 12:09 AM
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Or he's a threatening guy with no social awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 12:03 AM
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You can. If you're an ugly or average guy and approach women with something close to competence, nothing bad will happen. Girls don't want to be hit on by guys that are below their league. If every guy had the 'hey nothing bad will happen' attitude women would be put in the uncomfortable situation of having to deal with and reject a less good-looking guy every hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:59 PM
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You know, on one hand guys are told to be more confident and go out and approach girls, but then you have people who expect them to somehow "just know" their "league" and so need to stop approaching women? No, approach women that are within your league. You can fairly easily figure out what kind of league you're in by how women of different levels of attractiveness respond to you. If you're not sure, aim a bit below. Or don't, whatever. There's always some reason or justification as to why it al…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:57 PM
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But ugly guys and attractive guys aren't the same. The fact that an ugly guy seemingly thinks he isn't ugly makes her think that he must think he has a shot at her, which is sexually threatening to her. It's even more threatening because he obviously lacks the social awareness to realise how out of his league she is, and that lack of social awareness could make things uncomfortable for her if he tries anything. If it were totally okay and fine for anyone to hit on attractive girls wherever and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 10:17 PM
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And how many good ones are there out there? Enough to actually affect an even remotely significant proportion of women? And even then, there's no reason why women can't be sociopaths and narcissists too at that level. What's the difference between a woman years deep in a relationship getting punched and a man years deep in a relationship being hit with a hot iron?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 09:34 PM
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Just because someone says something in one way on the internet doesn't mean that they're like that offline. Okay whatever, I don't doubt that they give or at least used to give off that vibe in real life, but I don't think this is great evidence. I don't think people are listening to how their writing actually sounds online, it's not a popularity contest. I think most people would recognise that saying someone is 'fertile' in real life would sound creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 07:23 PM
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but only in cases like these where the extreme black and white thinking is literally an autistic trait. Lol no it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 06:26 PM
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Did he say that though? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question And? Does that mean it doesn't happen more often to women than to men? What does "relatively few" have to do with anything? It means that even if women are five times more likely to be murdered by their partner, it's still only a difference of 0.001% (making figures up, don't take that literally), and what practical difference does that make to women as a whole? Using it as a point to say that women have it much harder doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:40 PM
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Think we're missing a big point anyway. This shit almost entirely occurs at bars and clubs and other environments like that. If it kept happening and it were that bad you'd simply stop going. This isn't some uniform fact of dating, this is what happens when you go to a place filled with drunk (and aggressive/desperate) men. I know I avoid them partly for the above reasons and I'm not a girl anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 10:51 AM
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I ended up with an extroverted, party type because all the attractive shy girls were taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:35 AM
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Yeah guys like that will be kicked out instantly as soon as bouncers know about it. Don't even need to see it, any hint of it going on and he's gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:18 AM
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Women can't be abusive alcoholics? Still, relatively few women ever have to deal with the risk of being killed or seriously abused in a relationship, and the probability of that happening to a woman can be easily diminished by not making stupid choices of partners and/or not being lower class. The risk of ending up on a date with a serial killer are incredibly low. And besides, how many guys have been beaten up for hitting on some violent, aggressive dick's girlfriend? Oh but that can just be av…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:12 AM
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Women can get sex and relationships easily, but maybe not with the best-quality men, and there are some real duds out there. But whenever men do manage to get sex or a relationship it's with great women...?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 02:23 AM
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Well no, because I'm replying to a post of yours that's in a thread about someone not understanding you. I can understand you fine, but that's not because what you've said is actually coherent. You're still to blame for anyone who misunderstands what you're trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 06:29 PM
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He didn't say some women, he didn't say these women or those women. So I followed with the same general 'women'. If he didn't mean all women, he could have corrected me. Since he didn't correct me, I will continue to assume he meant all women. If he meant 'all women' he would have said 'all women', just saying 'women' doesn't mean he means all of them, and it never has. Because I've seen enough of these conversations to know that it's not an unreasonable assumption to make. Yeah, exactly, you've…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 06:08 PM
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He did say it I don't think he did. You said he was saying that all girls want commitment from everyone that they have sex with, but then you've written here that he's said something different. How is my response not a valid argument? Women don't want want commitment from them. You're changing the goalposts again. If this is what you meant the first time, why not say it the first time? Not everyone is a super special INTJ mind-reader like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 05:37 PM
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You're looking at the bigger picture but the discussion isn't about the bigger picture. He might think that or he might not, but he never said it and it's not the argument, so there's no reason to respond to it. INTJ. Uh no... you make it sound like a mental disorder. This kind of reasoning isn't exclusive to that type, or any type, it's just stupid masquerading as smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 04:45 PM
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Pretty much the basis of the Quran is that it was written word for word by God. Claims that this is the case for the bible don't really hold up. If you 'pick and choose' the moderate parts of the Quran you're either saying that God never wrote it or that he was wrong, the first makes you not a Muslim and the second makes you a blasphemer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 05:55 PM
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What do you actually mean by interchangeable? Maybe I don't understand what you're trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 08:32 PM
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Is interchangeable the word you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 06:38 PM
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Maybe humanity should just die out entirely, all our problems will be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 05:04 PM
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I mostly agree, but I think you focus too much on looks. Looks are important but so is personality, and personality is also pretty much immutable. You can gain confidence, social skills etc. but there's no going from being bland to being an interesting person. I think there are a lot of different factors in this, self-determination being a big one, but fundamentally they're innate. There's only so far that you can give the illusion that you're an innately interesting and exciting person, and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 05:03 PM
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The queen was robbed of any kind of identity as an individual from birth and it'll remain that way until she dies. Her entire life is, has always been, and will always be to represent the nation, not allowing her to pursue any kind of serious individual endeavours or ever know any kind of freedom, and barely giving her a day off either. She may live a life of luxury but it's still a burden, and the fact that nowadays fewer and fewer people can even recognise her purpose and the sacrifices she's …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 04:25 PM
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There's really not that much indication as to whether a woman will cheat on you or not. I mean, if it were that easy why do so many married guys end up being cheated on? Surely you would know what your girlfriend was like before you married her? If the right circumstances come together then people will cheat, and it doesn't take a lot for anyone to rationalise why they did it, and it's not like they won't get support from their friends for it. You know, 'oh he was so abusive, oh no he never hit …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 03:02 AM
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Her career will dry up when her genitals do because she's a shit actress. She isn't discriminated against because she's a woman, she's given endless opportunities and attention because she has a pretty face. Seriously, have you watched her films? She's horribly unconvincing in anything but HP, and she only got the hermione granger role because that's who she is pretty much. She'll never see or admit to seeing the fact that if she had a dick she would be a nobody. Daniel Radcliffe actually had to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 10:27 PM
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I am sure you know how hard it is to change habits. There are tons of people that drop weight, for example, only to gain it back later. Similarly, drug addicts have relapse, sometimes after years of sobriety. There are people capable of adjusting their lives and making a conscious change. However, why would you want to take a serious risk on someone who has to put conscious effort into being a certain way to qualify fit for a relationship; especially if you have options. My girlfriend used to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 08:23 PM
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Habits are habits, not laws, and so habits can be changed. People don't miraculously become fat, but then they don't miraculously decide to become fit and healthy, they learn and experience and actively work to change those habits. Nothing I've seen suggests that a person who is fat when they're younger is destined to fall back into unhealthy habits as they get older, and I can think of plenty of people who were in great shape when they were younger who then got fat. I think you're wrong to assu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 01:18 AM
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Yeah but when guys measure they always measure themselves when they're at their peak size. When you're getting measured by someone else I doubt you'll be at your maximum. At peak size I'm around 6.75 inches, but no way that would ever get measured in a study, probably it would be at least half an inch shorter, so already I'm thinking you can bump up that bell curve (lel) by a half inch. That makes most guys who think they have slightly larger than average wangs really only have average wangs, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 05:23 PM
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Yeah but so do the vaginas lol. Guys watching porn spend too much time looking at the dicks. If you want a decent measure, look at the girl's hands to compare. They get really small girls whose hands make the dicks look huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 04:56 PM
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Most porn dicks aren't even that much bigger than average. Camera angles, tiny girls, camera tricks, the fact that they barely go inside the girl etc. all make them seem much bigger than they are. Granted, there are some monstrous looking ones but if you actually look clearly you can see that most don't exceed eight inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 04:35 PM
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The big dicks are actually there for the guys. There's studies on this, you should google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 04:31 PM
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Didn't say that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 04:13 PM
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Go ahead and describe those situations precisely so you can feel silly while you lie through your teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:23 PM
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You're being overdramatic. They shouldn't reproduce because they don't tell you about how to get laid? How pathetic is that. You're a dimwit for failing to notice some really obvious things that pretty much everyone else managed to figure out on their own. That's on you. It's just the truth. No one becomes more interesting because of TRP, because if you need to that you're a naturally uninteresting, unexciting person. If that makes you feel ashamed then too bad. I'm definitely not trying to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:55 PM
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You knocked out a drunk person, so what? Have you ever been in a fight with a boxer? An MMA fighter? Ever actually used your two years of weapons training IRL? Are you fat? You said you were big but you never said you were ripped. I say that because if you were you'd probably have some success, but admittedly you don't. You wouldn't have more success. What would you do? Rape a girl? Threaten other men? How long before you get shot or stabbed? Not long. You are completely delusional dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:19 PM
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It's hardly reading between the lines, it's everywhere. It is IMPOSSIBLE to avoid the understanding that looks are important. It is overwhelmingly prevalent. Even in social settings girls and guys ALWAYS talk about who's attractive and who's ugly. It is IMPOSSIBLE to avoid noticing that the attractive girls pair up with the attractive guys. It's wilful ignorance. You're talking about something different now. People don't care about sexual strategy, they don't think about it. Anyone who tells you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:15 PM
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All sorts of things can happen, that's the point. The law benefits everyone. And saying that you'd be dead so it wouldn't matter might be true but it's completely besides the point. You're not even that big and don't seem to have any or much experience in actual fighting but you think you'd be fine without the law to protect you. That's delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:51 PM
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I'm not moving the goalposts. Your original point is that women would be screwed if the law that men agreed to didn't protect them, so I said that men would be too (presumably all law has gone out the window), and that means that any scenario can happen. In a lawless world people are going to gang up to hurt you, it's not going to be an evenly matched 1v1 scenario most of the time. You set the goalposts up, this is your scenario. If there's no law then a gang of five people with assault rifles c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:14 PM
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And if you believe those false narratives you're an idiot. It's not that this message is being pushed on you, you seek it out. Movies that promote the hot girl falling in love with the average guy are successful because average men will happily buy into that fantasy. It's a fantasy and nothing more, and you want to call it some kind of propaganda program. Most guys who are successful with women don't figure it out, only us lames on the internet want to talk about it. The problem isn't that you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 07:51 PM
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How are you going to defend yourself when two people with guns decide they want to kill you. Two years of Monday night kendo stick training isn't going to help you there. The lack of self-awareness is embarrassing. The law is there for you too. Also your size and experience is hardly unusual or exceptional. LOTS of bigger and more experienced people out there who might decide that they want to kill you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 07:45 PM
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As if you wouldn't be dead as soon as SHTF. Just embarrassing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 07:35 PM
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What guy who's reached puberty is watching Disney movies? And aren't all the guys in Disney movies really good looking anyway? What guy is getting relationship advice from teachers? And since when have kids gone around telling each other that looks don't matter. That doesn't reflect reality at all. This is really all nonsense. There's no one in the world who can't see that looks matter, because if you took one minute to look at couples you would see that their looks pretty much measure up. You h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 07:19 PM
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Yeah sure, super tough guy thinks he would be better off and happier in a lawless world but still posts on Reddit, also thinks it's better to be dead than to be dumped. Bigger guy with weapons training could just mean obese neckbeard who occasionally noodles around with a kendo stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 07:12 PM
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That's not the point, it's the fact that it could and WOULD happen. In any social setting, maybe at your work party even, you're submissive to your higher ups. That's a rule, and you can say it wouldn't happen but then I could ensure that I only hung out with complete losers and call myself super alpha because I'm dominant over everyone I talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 07:10 PM
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Who grows up thinking that looks don't matter. What world are you living in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 05:34 PM
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Everyone benefits from it, not just women. As if you wouldn't be shitting your pants if some guy couldn't just kill you because he wanted to have sex with your girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 05:33 PM
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This is just women doing what's best for them. Not really an argument for why it isn't wrong though. Why expect anyone to CYV when you don't even have a genuine basis for the belief that you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 09:05 PM
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Well I don't think there are very many popular, good looking guys who are "submissive". Sure there are, it's just that they don't need to be so you don't see it. Even then, more average guys still have the opportunity to be more assertive over very 'low value' men. I'm not talking about value, I'm talking about dominant/submissive mindedness. A more valid example would be software engineers. Not really. It applies to everyone. People are genetically more dominant-minded than others, and how popu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:50 PM
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The problem is when you say that someone has an alpha/beta personality and then explain alpha/beta in terms of social hierarchy. In this case, a really good-looking, intelligent, popular guy who is fairly submissive would still be more 'alpha' than the ugly, stupid guy that no one likes who has a very dominant personality. Human social hierarchy is too complex for this alpha/beta stuff. You can be hot shit at the club but still take orders at work from the nerd who worked really hard to get ahea…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:15 AM
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I can acknowledge when women are extremely attractive but still not be that attracted to them. Just because it's not perfect doesn't mean you can't take a more objective perspective on looks. It's not entirely subjective, there are objective markers for attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 06:48 PM
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It doesn't mean that. If it's objective it means looking at it from an unbiased angle (as best as possible), it doesn't mean that how people subjectively view it won't differ and it doesn't mean that people won't have different tastes. Most people, if confronted with the choice between something that fits perfectly with their tastes but is kind of meh, will pass that up in favor of something that's not to their taste but is the best thing possible. I love pizza, but I'll forget about going down …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 09:07 PM
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Strive for greatness, take a shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 01:50 AM
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Is this a serious post? Serious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 06:43 PM
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However, if you were to interview Christine Marzano and ask her why she was interested in Merchant, I guarantee you that she would say “oh, he's just such a funny guy, he's really genuine”, etc, etc. I wonder if she would be going out with him if he weren't such a funny guy though. She's a model, obviously she's going to have high standards, she's just explaining what's otherwise appealing about this guy who is obviously attractive enough to her to be in her league. If someone asks me why I like…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 05:24 PM
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