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I think you're right as was the post you replied to, both aren't mutually exclusive. Hypergamy is the source of their power dynamic, which leads to her compromising more in other areas. Insecurity / desire for symbolic dominance is probably the source of the shitty style in which he's communicating and prioritizing this, too. Because it sounds like he could get what he wants easier with a little encouragement, but he's jumping to ultimatums.
/r/RedPillWomen12/02/24 09:18 PM
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That's weird because in cultures where it's expected that the newlywed couple moves into one of their parents' houses, isn't the usual direction of move that the wife moves in with the husband and his family, not the other way around?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/24 07:47 PM
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OK everyone raise your hand. Now keep your hand up if: - you ever shot at someone - you ever hit someone - you ever hit them in the head Anyone with their hand still up see me after program
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 08:47 PM
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You can't make headway on this through logic, it's unwinnable - they will always fall back on circular or hypocritical logic because to the people arguing these things, it's just culture war - it's just signaling which side you're on. Don't try to engage it with logic, just listen to what they're actually saying, which is as simple as "I'm on team A and against team B, go team A! booo team B!" If you get sucked into their "arguments" you've already lost, it's confusing, it's a waste of time, and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/24 01:55 AM
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If you can make the fact you're nervous a little more noticeable, they'll pick up on that and know you're attracted. If you're great at hiding your nervousness and looking cool and collected on the outside while you avoid them, they wont pick up on it. Lean into the nervousness a bit, let it show, and *most* guys will recognize the signal.
/r/RedPillWomen26/01/24 01:50 AM
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It is a little bit depressing but the silver lining is it’s not a you problem, it’s just how things are for hominids on earth. Many people find a way to be happy under these conditions and I bet you will too.
/r/RedPillWomen24/01/24 09:22 PM
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Flip it around. No guy you choose is going to be your first pick now either, so doesn't that mean you're kind of in the same boat together? At the end of the day, the main choice you have is the tradeoff between aiming high (and putting in more relationship effort) or aiming low (and receiving more relationship effort) or trying to split the difference for similar effort levels. There's almost never a reciprocal first pick situation, that's just statistics. Almost every situation is going to be …
/r/RedPillWomen24/01/24 09:17 PM
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The other way the problem is cyclical is that only the good guys actually start avoiding women, so the proportion of assholes women experience increases - not because there are more assholes but because it’s only the non-assholes that are listening and avoiding interactions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/24 06:52 PM
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Nobody should be calling anybody anything. Let’s get back to strategizing how people can find other meaning in their lives besides sex and relationships, so that both groups can make the most of their time here on earth. Instead of calling an inspin/incel a name, how about suggesting some fun activities they can engage in with friends, like hiking, brewing your own beer, and taking care of pets. Let’s try to be constructive and actually help - there’s a myriad of other ways people can achieve ha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/24 07:47 PM
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Involuntary spinster. The incel can’t get sex. The inspin can’t get commitment. It’s disgusting derogatory language in both cases, I can’t even 😞
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/24 07:22 PM
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It's also not accurate, if one were going to stoop to their level, "inspin" would be a better fit in 99% of cases.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/24 05:31 PM
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"you deserve better" is what they say, when what they really mean is, "I hope I deserve better!"
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/24 10:17 PM
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Public and/or legal commitment to making the relationship permanent, backed by varying consequences, along with an adjustment in how seriously (some) others treat your relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/24 03:40 AM
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I keep trying to write the response to this and keep butchering it, so the answer is "mostly but it's complicated" - the things I'd recommend looking into are Relationship Market Value "RMV" and Sexual Market Value "SMV" and evolutionary biology. Evolution has programmed us to spread our genes as successfully as possible. For men, this means having lots of kids of variable quality. For women, this means having a few high quality kids. Men are generally down to sleep with women of all levels of a…
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/23 08:42 PM
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Men judge their league by who will let them hit with effort. If they get a 5 with no effort, they assume their league must be 6+. If they barely get a 7 with a lot of effort, they go "ok, that's my league" and 7 becomes the bar for effort - they will no longer put in effort for <7. (Using their own perceived rating, not one that we'd all necessarily agree with). Then there's a percentage of men who are just bitter and date only for sex, who'll never put effort in for anyone. And another percenta…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/23 07:04 PM
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It depends if they consider the woman a stretch goal - nearly out of their league - or an easy convenience - below their league. This is based on their perception, not societies' perception, of league - so a deluded guy may not want to provide for a woman who most people would see as out of his league if he, in fact, does not see her that way. When guys aren't putting in much if any effort, 99 times out of 100, it's because they know she's "not the one" for kids etc. The exact same guy who puts …
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/23 06:41 PM
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You need to be more honest with yourself: You want to try and do better than your boyfriend. That's 100% perfectly OK, but the ethical thing to do here is to break up with him first, not contort yourself trying to play it off as theraputic.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/23 02:24 AM
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OP is already preparing to leave the guy and is making moves to attract a better one, but doesn't feel comfortable letting go of him until she's confident that she really can attract better?
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/23 02:20 AM
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Anyone who's socially calibrated knows that you can't just ask and expect the real answer, lol, you've got to try and estimate from observed behavior, what their friends are like, etc. Asking directly is peak naivete.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/23 02:17 AM
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I'm a man, so I'll add the requested $0.02 here - I'm sympathetic to anyone who's had a troubled past, but it still makes them a risky bet for a relationship, more so in fact than someone who was having a good time in the same circumstances. My past problems didn't make me stronger, they made me weaker, and I think this is true of other peoples' past problems as well. So, I'd sympathize of course, but I wouldn't rush to tie my fate to theirs.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/23 02:15 AM
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It’s because if A) a man is not responsible for acts he didn’t do, then B) they are not victims of acts that didn’t happen to them. By treating men as individuals, and accepting they’re not collectively responsible and bad, they lose the ability to treat themselves as collectively victims and good.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/23 06:22 PM
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In the workplace ignoring could result in a strong discrimination claim, the current meta is to apply the same caution to all colleagues as you would with female colleagues. EG, either meet with everyone door open or door closed, but don’t let your policy be different between people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/23 05:04 AM
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Good to know, I just noticed that most of OPs recent posting activity has been posting LeMonde links to various different subreddits
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/23 08:35 PM
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You have 75.62% of this article left to read. The rest is for subscribers only. OP can you post the rest of the article here?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/23 07:37 PM
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It's good that you're taking action to reduce your stress level - ideal action would be ignoring the people who bum you out so you can still enjoy the rest, but if you can't learn to move past them, cutting it all out is still better than nothing.
/r/MenSupportMen31/03/23 03:23 AM
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Could be an effect of sexual selection that's following increasing reproductive freedom.
/r/BlackPillScience17/02/23 12:46 AM
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Now kiss
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 04:33 AM
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Idk, I see dads who discover that their kids aren’t there’s who are incredibly cut up about it, they love the kids, they’ve raised them, and they know how bad it will be for the kids to suddenly lose their father over something incomprehensible to them. Sad all around. Probably dna testing at birth is the path to minimize pain and problems overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 08:40 PM
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Pretty sure you can’t make someone dna test their kid if they don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 08:30 PM
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That’s great, my complaint is about Reddit 1 good on you for improving the situation in the meantime.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/22 05:08 AM
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Wouldn’t it be easier to fix such a simple bug rather than make a bot go around replying to people? If Reddit needs a programmer recommendation my cousin can probably do it, she knows JavaScript - Reddit let me know if you want an intro - you guys will find having a programmer on staff is useful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 11:17 PM
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Research published in 2016 indicated that one in 50 British fathers is unknowingly raising a child who is the biological child of another man, and that misattributed paternity is rarer than commonly believed.[4] A 2005 scientific review of international published studies of paternal discrepancy found a range in incidence, around the world, from 0.8% to 30% (median 3.7%).[5] However, as many of the studies were conducted between the 1950s and the 1980s, numbers may be unreliable due to the inaccu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 11:02 PM
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They could just compare them without names. They take the samples at the hospital, write "individual 1, individual 2, individual 3" on them before they go to the lab, and the lab confirms which individuals are related.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 11:01 PM
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About $300, so... zero cost in the grand scheme of having a kid
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 10:59 PM
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I don't think there's any acceptable "solution." In the past, social structures like the church enforced monogamy, resulting in a game of musical chairs to get married, in which a large portion of men got to mate. It was essentially regulating the sexual marketplace. As society becomes more egalitarian and gives individuals more agency, the dating market becomes deregulated, and that results in more extreme inequality there. I don't see any way around it - many of the men who would have mated un…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 07:58 PM
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Wouldn’t the ratio of good to bad partners keep shifting in favor of the worse ones over time, as the good ones are presumably getting into and sustaining relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:44 PM
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To that I’d add: Womens’ unpaid domestic labor isn’t benefiting their husbands, it’s being used by their husbands’ boss to pay their husband less… unpaid domestic labor benefits the bosses by reducing labor costs, the surplus does not accrue to workers…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/22 06:55 PM
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It’s up to whoever wants it more… and market dynamics means that’s usually men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:54 PM
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The first sentence is good advice, the second sentence not so much. The right person *might* come. They *might* or they *might not*. But, by focussing on yourself, you make the most of the situation either way.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/22 03:15 PM
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People who get into stable relationships easily just aren’t on the market long. The longer you’re on the market, the lower the percentage of relationship-capable people who’re out there gets - including oneself on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:14 PM
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You’re smarter than the people OP is describing. OP is describing the kind of people who, when the price of something goes up, think “well if the price is higher it must be better” This kind of psychology, working against them, in their evaluation of partners: https://www.forbes.com/sites/dorieclark/2012/02/23/how-raising-prices-can-increase-your-sales/?sh=220d8f937b80 In this case, the “price” is how much effort one has to spend to get with / stay with a partner. If you are buying medicine, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:41 PM
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FYI that’s a common phrase: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/where-addiction-meets-your-brain/201404/your-lizard-brain It’s called lizard brain because it’s an old part of the brain, in evolutionary terms - so old that it’s we share it with reptiles (and many other species).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:31 PM
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Nice try; we all know grocery stores aren’t real and supermarkets are a Hollywood trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 06:53 PM
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Is that something you want to believe so you don’t have to go to the gym?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:54 PM
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I expect that most people don’t want relationships with IG models because they’re addicted to strangers’ thirsty validation. They’re probably beautiful enough that most people would be DTR if their personality was ok, but of the several IG-famous people I’ve known, not one of them was ok in the head. It’s not a pleasant experience to go on dates with someone who’s constantly managing a fan base, who spends minutes trying to get the right photo every time you go anywhere, who’s simultaneously ego…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:27 PM
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Can you share the financial reality with her and figure out who needs what more? Eg, you need a car to go to work. She needs the money for _______(she’d have to say). Then decide between the two of you which is more important? If her need for the money is frivolous; at the very least she’d have to admit it. “I want you to give me the money to use for fun instead of you getting a car to save time going to work” It doesn’t sound like a shit test to me - it just sounds like she wants the money. If …
/r/ExRedPill24/06/22 02:24 PM
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The IRS is part of a system of productivity, without it we’d have nearly nothing the government produces, roads, facilities, etc. Your argument that they don’t produce anything is like saying that a cashier at McDonald’s doesn’t contribute to Production the same as a cook. They’re both key to the production. But the point is, sociopathy does not trend towards productivity (making things) so much as it trends towards taking them. Inventors, and conscientious people put their effort into making th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:20 PM
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Same as McDonald’s workers, or you know, pretty much all labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:53 PM
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They would be if IRS agents got to keep the money…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:36 PM
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Sociopathy is helpful to take wealth not to create it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:24 PM
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Well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:55 PM
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There’s no harm in getting bad advice as long as you don’t overvalue it. Let these guys play their ego games, and enjoy giving their advice. You can evaluate it and decide what’s braggadocio, what might be useful, and what you should do the opposite of.
/r/ExRedPill01/06/22 03:02 PM
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Men are bigger than women on average. If we pair everyone up randomly, the most common pairing is going to have the male half bigger. So if you want someone of equal stature, that’s not “more natural” or more equal. We’re a sexually dimorphic species, our most common pairing is between a larger male and a smaller female, for… maybe millions of years? It looks to be the same in all our most closely related species, too. Nothing wrong with being drawn to that. You’re not endorsing any politics by …
/r/ExRedPill01/06/22 02:57 PM
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Ok, but you’re still making the same mistake: if you want to understand someone you have to see it from their perspective. Sure, from the guys perspective they might think one is being rewarded. But from the woman’s perspective nobody is being rewarded, she is not in the process of “giving out a reward” and there is no concept of deserving it or earning it. From her perspective she is doing what’s most motivating to her. She is seeking certain feelings, for her. It’s not about him, she doesn’t t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:29 PM
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You keep forgetting it’s different men. If guy 1 and 2 were equally attractive in your example, they’d both be having a good time or both be getting nothing. Women aren’t rewarding hot men with casual sex, they’re rewarding themselves. The hot guy is the reward. She’s not doing it “for” him she’s doing it for her. I don’t reward a candy bar by choosing it over a piece of lettuce. I might know the lettuce is healthy for me and good for me, but I eat the candybar because I want the endorphins/neur…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:19 PM
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To be fair, 80% of them are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:20 PM
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Be interesting to know how what percent have to attempt to create that 1-2%. Presumably many people follow the dual mating impulse but use birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:06 PM
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I’m willing to bet most of those accounts aren’t women at all, they’re sock puppets of sales guys. If you engage they’ll probably pass you off to a real human before the actual sales call.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:55 AM
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FYI I expect his audience is overwhelmingly male.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/22 08:10 PM
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Thanks for the story, wow! It’s depressing to think that not only were those his intentions, but he felt comfortable saying so too. I guess in this one case I hope he’s so socially miscalibrated that they can see through him and he doesn’t baby trap anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 07:31 PM
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Out of curiosity, what kind of stuff did they confess to doing to those women / wanting to do to those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 07:06 PM
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r/theydidthemath and r/im14andthisisdeep must be doing a mashup
/r/ExRedPill16/04/22 04:45 AM
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I feel like you're putting words in OP's mouth here
/r/ExRedPill10/04/22 03:02 AM
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No, but it does effect the way I drive - it’s a small but important risk and it’s reasonable to learn defensive driving, even if the portion of dangerous drivers is small.
/r/ExRedPill10/04/22 02:58 AM
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On nights when there’s lots of people drinking, such as thanksgiving here in the US, I watch out extra.
/r/ExRedPill10/04/22 02:54 AM
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They have outsize impact. If one m&m in the bowl will ruin you..
/r/ExRedPill10/04/22 02:50 AM
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Psychopaths are real
/r/ExRedPill10/04/22 02:47 AM
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Red pill stuff is like a broken clock, it’s right twice a day and if those moments happen to be what you need, it might accidentally help you a bit. The claim to follow stereotypical “blue pill” advice won’t work for you if women have never been attracted to you before (assuming your an adult and haven’t been in all boys schools and professions the whole time). BP advice boils down to “treat her how you’d like to be treated” which is great if she likes exactly what you like, but most heterosexua…
/r/ExRedPill08/04/22 03:42 PM
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That attitude is reducing the chances you’ll be hurt and cheated on imo
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:51 PM
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I’m trying to date a person similar to me, so kinda The big difference will be you’re attracted to women and the woman you’re trying to date is attracted to men. What turns you on when you look in the mirror is gonna be different from what turns them on when they look at you - that’s all I meant. Give me an example of how I should dress Without proscribing style, your clothes should be clean, fit you well, and look like you picked them on purpose each morning. If someone dates you, brings you ar…
/r/ExRedPill01/04/22 03:24 PM
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Your body needs to look: Healthy Clean Strong Your style needs to convey: Intellectual ease Monetary ease Emotional ease Who cares what you think you look like in the mirror? Are you trying to date yourself?
/r/ExRedPill01/04/22 02:36 AM
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OP here's an MIT study of Columbia grad students - see chart on page 124: https://www.mit.edu/~6.s085/papers/racialPreferences.pdf Here's some data from people who used Facebook dating: https://qz.com/149342/the-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating/ Some more data from OKCupid - doesn't support the conclusion as much as the other two, but the general point is that race almost always affects things IRL, even if you don't feel that way personally https://medium.com/the-post-g…
/r/ExRedPill28/03/22 11:42 PM
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I liked your post. If it wasn’t for my upvote it would be at 0 right now. In the first half of my reply I parodied the most common counter narrative that is, as we agree, not helpful. In the second half I add onto your ideas seriously.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 01:49 AM
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I think you need to come up with plausible replacements for the needs that RP ideas are filling. Then you can develop a questionnaire to identify which ideas a person has attached to, and in treatment help move them over to that idea's replacement. For example, instead of just saying "X isn't true" you've got to show them "instead it is actually Y that is true." The replacements have to be targeted to the same needs that drove them to the idea in the first place. I also think it's important that…
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 12:35 AM
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I think there is a strong alternative message besides RP, it’s got two parts: you’re insecure and you don’t shower enough
/r/ExRedPill10/03/22 08:56 AM
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Nobody alive today, perhaps. But there will be generations that grow up with this stuff - and there will be big money and big advertising going into shifting people's attitudes, TV shows and movies will begin normalizing it, and our great grandchildren may be very different in attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:41 PM
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Settling is based on mindset - if she is going to fantasize about other guys from the past, or future, it’s settling. It’s not strictly about the relative RMV of the people involved but their perceptions of each other. Anyone who perceives themselves as settling will create and experience all the settling related issues, regardless of if an outside observer would agree they’re settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:15 AM
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My past didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you’re insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:05 AM
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Sounds like your mistake was not mixing in the good stuff. Obviously what you were doing worked at the beginning, it was a good ingredient, but it has to be a mix. You can’t get someone hooked on nothing but aloofness, there needs to be breaks and tender moments hinting at what could be, if only she can finally break down your walls. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water here. A lot of people will lose attraction for you if you show too much vulnerability, or devalue you if you’re too ava…
/r/ExRedPill05/03/22 04:34 AM
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It can be a big self esteem booster if you’ve been insecure about your “league” - and it’s very pleasant at first. I dated someone I found gorgeous for a long time: the first time she got undressed in front of me I got a spontaneous nosebleed, which has never happened before or since. After a few years I was totally used to it though, and the aesthetic appreciation was much milder although it didn’t go away. Later I dated some more average people and was still able to appreciate their looks just…
/r/ExRedPill23/02/22 03:39 PM
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mood
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:04 PM
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OP this sounds like it could be a side effect of hormonal birth control - if you've started taking birth control recently-ish it might be worth trying a different one.
/r/RedPillWomen17/11/21 10:16 PM
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So to summarize your position, there is a wall, just it's for men and not women? What age do you think it hits on average?
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 07:57 AM
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I think there's room, on a species level, to suggest that males are comparatively disposable. Afterall, when we look at other species, it's typically the females that are camouflaged (ie: designed to maximize survival) while the males tend to be the opposite. There is a massive imbalance between the value of a sperm, and the value of an egg - one is in essentially limitless supply, while the other is comparatively scarce. It's not that men are disposable per-say, it's more that on a evolutionary…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/21 10:30 PM
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nobody cares about men, and that as a man, all you can do is become dark triad and manipulative to feel valued temporarily, sexually, by women Wow that's gotta be the most concise description I've ever heard, you have a gift with words.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/21 10:23 PM
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Agreed, if surprise relationship issues are as rare as getting hit by a truck, it makes sense to concern oneself in proportion. If they’re more frequent, say 50-50, then one should pay them more mins.
/r/ExRedPill14/10/21 04:52 AM
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you can have faith that they won't leave you the second the going gets tough tbh it's faith not reason though. Will be true for some, and not true for others, and no matter how much you think it's true in your case it's still gonna surprise you sometimes. The broadest point is there's no such thing as security, try not to risk what you can't afford lose.
/r/ExRedPill14/10/21 04:14 AM
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I wouldn't describe myself as RP at any point. My goal in exploring that material was to minimize the risk of being cheated on again - what to look out for and ideas on understanding it.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/21 09:27 PM
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Hey hey hey, there's a lot more variation than that. Some like the sexy nerdy type - others the hunky professional, yet more are down with a hot hot woodsman vibe. There's literally no limit to the different kinds of people that can be attractive!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:19 AM
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Love is a choice but it’s not a choice you just make and it takes effect. It’s a choice like fitness, you make the choice and then you keep practicing and it builds up over time. If you get fit because you have a strenuous job or are enjoying sports, you can keep it with a little effort. This is akin to falling in love, honeymoon phase, and then letting the choice to love extend it past the chemical period. If you’re not starting with that initial infatuation it’s way way harder - you’ve both go…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/09/21 05:04 PM
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What's ironic is that a lot of the genes people are most attracted to are related to success in an environment so different from our current one as to be nonuseful. However, the fact that people still prioritize those genes, means they are still an evolutionary advantage, even if the advantage is now a matter of social preference instead of an actual environmental pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 10:07 PM
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Consciousness of a strategy is not necessary to employ it, look at all the strategies animals employ in their social groups on pure instinct. You’re getting way too hung on on whether abusers are aware of what they’re doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:27 PM
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I think you're jumping to the assumption that any of this behavior requires conscious planning. One can be acting impulsively, off the cuff, and still following this pattern. Your focus on whether it's conscious/deliberate or not doesn't change the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:15 PM
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I think the percentage is throwing it off too. It's not really meaningful, it's gonna tell you more about their ability to do sociological research and reason from there. Why not just ask about redpill concepts with a 0-7 strongly disagree to strongly agree?
/r/ExRedPill20/09/21 08:03 PM
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I think you're trying to be too clever by half. You want to ask an extremely broad question with 1000s of possible interpretations, and then boil their response down to a single axis: "alignment with red-pill" How you interpret someones answer to these questions is going to tell you more about yourself, and your own beliefs, than it does about the person who answered. Here, I'll give a hypothetical answer to the OP question for you to analyze: - What %: 17% of men would remain single despite the…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/21 07:49 PM
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It's an oxymoron, "in this ideal society" kinda implies that most people get what they want right? So you're really asking a different philosophical question that's unrelated to men/women/redpill: "In an ideal society, what percentage of people will never get what they want? Why?" As far as I can tell, you'll get a range of answers of the form: - in an ideal society everyone gets what they want, that's what makes it ideal OR - in an ideal society a good portion of people don't get what they want…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/21 07:45 PM
12

The biggest takeaway from WAATGM for me is how shockingly sad it is for all these kids. How little the moms see themselves and their roles as being a mom. How casually they have them and how little they expect to change their lives for them. The similarity of phrasing “is my world” on so many makes the words ring truly hollow - and here one is on Bumble less than a week after the birth… we have a real epidemic happening here. Free birth control doesn’t go far enough maybe we need mandatory birth…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/09/21 01:54 PM
3

They're not conceptually linked, but there winds up being a lot of group overlap. I'm far left and in left wing spaces it's pretty much verboten to discuss differences between men and women, so by default all such discussion winds up in center or right wing spaces.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/21 04:20 PM
3

Brilliantly explained, especially the metaphor of the user choosing which roads to take. All it really takes for something to be considered an onramp to something else, is for it to show up in youtube's suggested videos next to it - the rest is the viewer choosing it. It's very easy to say "the videos radicalized me" but not so easy to admit "I watched them because I liked it"
/r/ExRedPill13/09/21 04:17 PM
2

Oof, well put - I wouldn't be surprised if followers of other subs double-down on the ridicule and vitriol though. They're going through their own thing, and they're still in the war-of-the-sexes stage.. Best we can ask is that they get ratio'd when they're posting in the wrong spaces. I think it's still better to let them post than have mods disappear it - better to engage with it here before one meets it out there gestures towards door
/r/ExRedPill11/09/21 10:41 PM
1

The majority of successful CEOs and people at the top of the social and financial hierarchy had major safety nets. The examples of people who worked up from the bottom even had safety nets in terms of being able to live with parents rent free, etc. Not saying that your point has no impact, just that realistically, most CEOs had a hell of a safety net (and most were already upper class / upper middle class) for years before they became CEO. If the CEO of a major company tanks it, nothing happens …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:09 PM
8

“I am casually seeing someone who seems really into me but is also avoidant or something” big oof. It’s amazing the hoops people will jump through to convince themselves someone’s really into them. I saw a post on relationship advice recently that boiled down to: he shows me no sign at all he’s into me, so commenters please help me come up with some suuuper subtle signals that really show he’s 100% in love with me and just hiding it perfectly…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/21 04:35 PM
3

I think the correlation is "impulsive people" do both. Additionally, cheaters of both sexes are selfish, which results in shorter relationships = more time for promiscuity. And selfishness in guys helps them pump up their numbers because they're more willing to be deceitful to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:54 PM
1

Joe Biden: He's too old, but for reference if he was younger think how women used to talk about Bill Clinton, or how red team is for Trump... Elon Musk: they simp over him now. You can't judge from what they post on social media - when they have no access to any celebrity they'll pick Chris Hemsworth etc to post about, but if they actually had access to Elon Musk, how many would turn down an offer to hang out?
/r/ExRedPill01/09/21 05:28 PM
3

URL is watermarked on bottom right
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/08/21 04:53 PM
0

I don't get it, I skimmed but didn't see any research, just a bunch of hypothesizing. Seems prone to the same issue as most of economics and game theory - the assumption that people are rational actors acting with perfect information... I'd love to believe the conclusion you're saying, I'm just not sure how to connect any of this conjecture to IRL situations, as they don't describe any experiments, or connect with any pre-existing data, and so much game theory falls apart where real humans with …
/r/ExRedPill27/08/21 08:19 PM
5

Red flags tend to come in pairs: hardworking = not talented, talented = not hardworking considerate = not assertive, assertive = not considerate fun = not reliable, reliable = not fun and so on
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/08/21 06:22 PM
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Being wealthier can get someone who's attracted to wealth.. but that's not the same thing as someone who's attracted to you.. Many people settle for that, being attractive as a provider, some knowingly and others not realizing, thinking their partner would be into them sans job: https://www.thecut.com/2016/07/husbands-job-predicts-divorce.html There's a big thread up on r/relationship_advice right now where the OP is telling ugly men "women are attracted to your lifestyle, so you're not disadvan…
/r/ExRedPill24/08/21 05:55 PM
10

Freedom of the individual is more important than restraining anyone’s sexuality. People need warnings / education about these risks like any other, not social control.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/08/21 11:43 PM
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Probably some sort of therapy, but the core of the problem is motivation. You can hear it in the way people talk about the ex they can’t get over - they don’t want to get over them. Being with the super duper ex was a high point of their ego - they can’t get over them without letting go of that ego boost. It’s an aspirational self, the version of them that was with that ex.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/08/21 06:33 PM
0

The criteria for sexism are met when: person A references one gender differently than another person B reads said reference /s Every 15 years we're going to need a totally new lexicon because of how fast terminology gets diluted, polluted, and coopted. Idk what to do about it, but I know the answer isn't to fight for the old definitions - that's a dead end. Suggestions on a new term for sexism that'll have the same meaning as sexism used to?
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 04:30 PM
1

Marry that right person sure, but what do you do when her attraction wears off after a few years and she starts desiring new / better? Then she starts bringing up "open relationships" and spending lots of nights "out with the girls", acting suspicious around her phone, or just telling you everything you do is wrong. It's not that marriage is not an option, it's just that it's a roll of the dice - ~50% divorce rate, ~70% initiated by women. You can't control if you get a Good marriage or not, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:04 PM
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He called her and moved their date up specifically so he could trick her to coming to bury his cat. Flip the genders here and it makes no difference - nobody should be putting that kind of emotional labor on someone else on the first date. Now that’s not a defense of the author/protagonist one bit, plenty else in the article is totally unreasonable, but avoiding surprise dead-cat dates seems reasonable to me from any perspective.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/07/21 07:02 PM
1

Probably not lol. If they have an emotional event and need someone with them, tricking a stranger into that position isn't a great sign. Where are their friends? Where is their awareness that first impressions count? Seems selfish IMO regardless of gender.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/07/21 05:23 PM
5

Winter is Coming and it's already chilly in Korea
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:19 PM
1

"The silent majority" is not exactly neutral rhetoric - it was coined by Richard Nixon in an address where he declared the silent majority to be in support of his politics. What was the source of this email and what else was in it?
/r/ExRedPill27/07/21 06:47 PM
7

I find this charictarization of narcissism over-broad. I have dealt with a real narcissist and it is a way way bigger deal than your average selfish asshole - diluting the term makes it harder for people dealing with a real narcissist to get assistance. Narcissist's life goal is all about how many people they have at their fingers That's one specific subtype, grandiose narcissism, which seems to stand in for all narcissism in popular misconception. Other narcissists only need one or two people f…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/21 05:24 PM
6

She thinks she can get an even better deal, not have to hide it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/07/21 03:33 AM
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Surprised I had to scroll so far to see the most likely answer - this is it. She’s preparing the ground to push for the occasional big dick weekend - and I’d bet money she has a particular one in mind (and in occasional contact) already.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/07/21 05:25 PM
1

I was satirizing OP's position, that's why I put the whole thing in quotes :p I do happen to agree that one can try to learn things about complex systems :)
/r/ExRedPill20/07/21 04:35 PM
4

"Large heterogeneous groups have variations between individuals, thus no generalizations can be made and there's no point looking for "rules of thumb," trying to identify "average" positions, or in general trying to understand anything at all!"
/r/ExRedPill20/07/21 03:49 PM
0

Realistically, if you date, you will get cheated on. Posters here love to use their story to deny the existence of others’ - “I like my husband therefore you have nothing to worry about” is only relevant to that person’s husband, not the rest of us. They ask silly questions like “why would someone settle these days” but I’ve seen it and it’s all the obvious reasons (according to the person, saying they’re settling): getting older, all their friends married and having kids, wanting kids, family p…
/r/ExRedPill19/07/21 05:30 PM
1

Yeah probably. Ironically the same friend I referenced above complains that she doesn’t have enough sex in the relationship - but I wonder if it’s a function of him having low libido or if he senses how she really feels about him and isn’t into it.
/r/ExRedPill19/07/21 05:20 PM
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It's not ideology, large numbers of people are seriously unaware of what they're attracted to. They keep repeating the same choices, making a serious intention to do differently and then going back to the same dynamics. I've seen AF/BB dynamics in a number of friends over a long period of time - in the most extreme case the woman spent 10 years crushing on guys for being hot, and finally settled with her BB after talking shit about him, his looks, everything to all of us. Not everyone is in the …
/r/ExRedPill19/07/21 03:32 PM
5

I know a worse version of this. Guy two grades behind me in school, was going to be an Olympic swimmer but got injured, had to pick a new path. So he became an astronaut - pilot training, accepted to NASA as an astronaut, the works. Before he can go to space meets a nice young lady, they decide to start a family, and she makes him transfer so he’ll never get to go to space, because she’s nervous what would happen to him. He does it because who knows. He was an astronaut, ready to go, and he let …
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 04:35 PM
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I think on average, for most people but not all, looks plays a large role in who they give a chance to get to know further. I think that role is, on average for most people but not all, bigger than they are aware of or will articulate.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/21 07:58 AM
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They’re just grandstanding when they say that. They can’t know and in almost all cases people are most certainly being rejected for height and looks by a proportion of those they come in contact with. For some people the proportion is small, for others high.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/21 07:44 AM
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It's the old adage "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger," however studies are showing the opposite for psychological stressors: https://critter.blog/2021/06/16/what-doesnt-kill-you-makes-you-weaker/
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/07/21 04:02 PM
1

Got it, it’s realistic (as in it could happen) but not representative of the average experience - right?
/r/ExRedPill14/07/21 05:21 AM
1

I missed the part where they said to be realistic, it had to replicate the experience of every woman I would think to be realistic it only has to replicate the behavior of a few, even a small minority, to be realistic. Are you thinking the show should only include things that are true of "every" woman to be realistic?
/r/ExRedPill14/07/21 04:55 AM
-1

FWIW I know a lot of various forms of psychologist, and out of maybe 10 examples only 1 seemed more self-aware than equivalently educated people from other fields. Even in his case, I didn't know him well enough to know if it was true. I know people who's psychologists cancel 5 minutes before the session or show up and vent about the screaming match they just had with their situationship...
/r/ExRedPill13/07/21 08:59 PM
1

That's the most realistic bit - look at r/relationship_advice for how far some people will go to avoid communicating with their partners... and r/survivinginfidelity for how far some will go after that
/r/ExRedPill13/07/21 08:00 PM
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Ever visited r/survivinginfidelity? I think you'll find the range of human expression is wide enough for this to be a realistic story for many, not most perhaps, but still many.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/21 07:59 PM
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That is what they wrote - apparently they've never spent even a few minutes on r/survivinginfidelity ..
/r/ExRedPill13/07/21 07:58 PM
5

It was definitely some sort of fantasy someone wrote You nailed it, from the author: I wrote the book to entertain myself, first and foremost, and when I published it I did so under the assumption that no one would ever read it. https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/26/sex-life-author-says-netflix-show-provides-intense-viewer-experience-14830807/ However, fantasy is the first step in changing reality. The entertainment, and characters, we invest ourselves in, impacts our fantasies, motivations, our sense …
/r/ExRedPill13/07/21 07:56 PM
2

I don't think "dominant vs submissive" are the clearest labels for the relationship dynamic where someone's following someone else's lead - maybe more like "independent vs collaborative" or something that gets to the heart of how much people weigh others' opinions in their behavior. If forced to pick from dominant and submissive people would call me naturally dominant - I hold formal leadership roles professionaly and often find myself in informal leadership roles socially - but I don't like the…
/r/RedPillWomen13/07/21 07:47 PM
0

This is so dark. Thanks for sharing and sorry you went though that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:44 AM
2

That's fucked up - you should have gone to the FBI with that. They might have traced the origin and helped some people - or at least given the guys records a note that might have protected future victims. If you still have the evidence please do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:23 AM
1

OK, you can see where your problem is right? It's in taking on a duty / responsibility that you seem to define as not allowing you to be happy.. I would start by re-examining how great your personal duty is and how you can define it in a way that doesn't ruin your happiness. I am sure there is a way you can feel ethical while also flirting enough to get into relationships.
/r/ExRedPill11/07/21 12:52 AM
1

Where does your duty to self sacrifice come from? How is your self sacrifice helping people here? Is it helping them more than it’s costing you?
/r/ExRedPill10/07/21 11:06 PM
1

Why is it that you can’t put yourself ahead of the Cause without being awful? Isn’t there room for a middle ground where you behave in ways your target demo will find attractive without being awful?
/r/ExRedPill10/07/21 09:45 PM
2

It sounds like you’ve thrown the baby out with the bath water. Redpill exists because the typical dating advice (be nice, contribute to someone’s life) tends to get people into bad situations - and what’s wrong with redpill isn’t that this is untrue, it’s that it’s got too much misogyny in the vicinity. It’s good to let go of the misogyny but you shouldn’t forget that the advice about dating, and people preferring to chase than be chased, is still true and helps you get a shot with someone. The …
/r/ExRedPill10/07/21 05:27 PM
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Thankfully she was a good person in my estimation and she never did anything to hurt me or others (outside of this temporary medication-induced mania) that I knew of.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 07:39 PM
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I had a long time FWB who I hadn't seen in about a year. She had a serious allergic reaction and was taken to hospital, where they gave her a high dose of corticosteroids. Unfortunately a side effect for some people is mania, and they discharged her in a very unwell mental state. She called a taxi, and convinced the taxi driver to take her 4 hours away to my city, and then called me. While on the phone with me she gave all her money to a homeless person, and then apparently started kicking someo…
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 06:29 PM
10

How does posting this to specific communities and share groups not completely destroy the survey via sample bias? Edit: I (and people who upvoted me perhaps) misunderstood that the purpose of this survey sounds more qualitative. With better reading comprehension I would not have asked this.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 02:13 AM
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I think you missed the argument and invented a bunch that aren’t there. If you propose getting rid of welfare (in whatever form that means to you) it’s on you to come up with an alternative, or accept that it’ll send kids into poverty for no fault of their own, and further perpetuate the cycle of early unwed births you claim to be against. Fwiw I’m against reckless single parenting too, don’t know why you assumed otherwise, I just prioritize harm reduction over punishment.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/21 09:50 PM
-1

Lol, just like how public healthcare enables risky YouTube stunts - we gotta make the world as harsh and brutal as possible to punish mistakes! Fuck those poor kids who had no choice being born, cause we gotta teach their moms a lesson! Surely grinding more children through crushing poverty will lead to less out of wedlock births!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/21 08:35 PM
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They have a hard time picturing the guy as a real person, making his own evaluation of his unique situation and options. I suspect a lot of women who are aiming for the stars picture their ideal guy from the outside - what he looks like next to her, to their friends, at their wedding etc - without picturing his inner life at all. He’s never the focus of a romantic story, he’s usually a deus ex machina at the end - a reward from the universe for never settling. Under that perspective, failing to …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/21 04:16 PM
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If you want to understand it better, this is a study based on interviewing 162 women who became single moms and trying to understand commonalities in their thinking: https://www.scribd.com/read/295628170/Promises-I-Can-Keep-Why-Poor-Women-Put-Motherhood-before-Marriage# More info: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/73305.Promises_I_Can_Keep This book doesn’t promote single parenting, it just tries to get inside the heads of the people who choose it - and unexpectedly many are choosing it, not j…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/21 03:56 PM
1

Kids have ID?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:34 PM
2

Good post. Looking at the stats it says US women are doing 1.8 more hours of unpaid work, and 1.4 fewer hours of paid work, than men, per day, for a total of 0.4 hours more work per day than a man on average. Less work (total) is obviously better, but it's close enough that depending on the paid / unpaid work conditions, I might prefer an extra .4 hours of unpaid work if I can skip a commute, nobody is supervising me, or I can otherwise make it more pleasant / spend less energy. For example, I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:26 PM
3

There are no good or bad arguments for what name someone takes, it's arbitrary. The compiler replaces all the names with symbols before processing anyway. If the two of you can't decide, make up some new ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:17 PM
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I don’t seem to understand A man has already explained, and hopefully in a way that is understandable. That man? Albert Einstein: https://www.defenddemocracy.press/why-socialism-by-albert-einstein/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 03:25 AM
2

Huh, went looking for source on that and found it: https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 04:40 PM
8

Victims of it too - many people misdirect themselves inside their own heads, rewriting narratives to suit their feelings unconciously. This re-writing of the narrative obscures the true patterns and prevents the victim from improving the next time - their historical data is distorted and that distorts their future decisions. This is not unique to women, it's just the key element behind a lot of this kind of doublespeak posted here. They believe both things truly, at separate times, and aren't ab…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/21 07:40 PM
1

Ugly reality of manipulating people - don't need those crutches when the new ideas are right, good, and have proper evidence for them :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:07 PM
6

Yes those and borderline, intense bipolar, people in existential crises, people falling out of another faith (be it religious or social or interpersonal) - people who’ve lived with abuse to whom it’s normalized, people with cripplingly low self esteem, people in other crises (just became homeless for a popular example).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:16 PM
18

It's less about the cult leader and more about the cultist. They recruit people who are mentally broken and ready for any change, or who otherwise have deep insecurities or psychological issues that can be exploited, and re-narrated, into bringing them into the cult. Normal people are not joining cults except when the pitch comes on their worst day.. growing a cult is mostly about seeking out the most vulnerable people and being able to spot an opportunity (in the form of someone in real psychol…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:46 PM
1

a longitudinal study of 231 college student Welp, that oughta generalize to all of humanity nicely..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 12:26 AM
1

That’s a pretty broad generalization for something that doesn’t need to be gendered. If there’s not an essentially gendered element to “going your own way,” then by gendering the term, it’s adding that element. By your examples, monks are GTOW - and so are nuns. So why does MGTOW need to exclude women, as opposed to anybody who’s fed up with dating etc. I would guess that the reason has to do with why it’s often perceived as sexist or potentially problematic. Another reply to my comment suggeste…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 06:32 PM
1

The key question is, if you're just going your own way, why is it MGTOW and not PGTOW (people going their own way)?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:10 PM
80

"What, you mean you don't offer a price match guarantee?"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/08/20 04:36 PM
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