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You got called out for making claims without research and I'm the troll. Right. Present the research or stay silent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:47 PM
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Read what? You just made claims about research without ever providing any. I don't buy that you can even read research in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:40 PM
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If you weren't a teensy bit a lazy, maybe you could have scrolled down the comments and saw the full discussion with the research. It's not on me to try to find data to justify your absurd claims. Link the data where you make the claim or just stay silent. I already wasted a lot of time explaining the connections to two people. You probably just didn't understand what you were looking at in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:23 PM
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You don't have any legitimate research to back up your claim. You shouldn't have made it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:30 PM
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despite the almost equal number of work hours, women still do most of the housework. According to bullshit survey research that relies entirely on perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:53 AM
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For the same reason that women will literally starve themselves to death if that's what's popular. We are just wired differently and women, by and large, just have to go along with what's in fashion. Today, it's fashionable to hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:17 PM
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According to some goofy caricature in your mind...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:20 AM
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The average man does not care for his fellow man in the same way women do fir better or worse A lot of that can just be older women controlling younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:19 AM
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I want to date much younger women because they don’t know how to call me out on my bullshit It's definitely not the objective beauty, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:18 AM
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You just pulled that nonsense out of your butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:24 PM
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Subtract about 90% of the drama in the scenario, and you will be closer to reality. It's just one bunch telling another to shut the f up over the internet. You are trying to read too much into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:01 AM
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Doesn't look like a meltdown. I think this just became a lot more dramatic in your mind than it is in reality. What is going on with those men, exactly? Whatever you imagine...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 12:00 AM
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How could they possibly be annoyed by things they do not notice? Lol, they don’t hear old women in any capacity, come on. This is just goofy. Where did you get this idea in your head? Their whole message to young women is that men do not notice old women. No, it's just that they are unattractive outside of a granny fetish. Why do you contend that they are lying No, this is just in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 11:59 PM
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I am asking you to explain what precisely is going on with those men in your opinion Ok, who specifically actually said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:47 PM
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As I said, this is projecting on men a very feminine way of thinking and manipulating that just isn't anything close to reality. a related phenomenon of men absolutely losing their shit over porn stars getting married A phenomenon? How did you get this idea in your head. How would you explain those men? Frequency illusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:42 PM
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You are correct that they don't care about these old women, but you are wrong in thinking that they aren't annoyed by the complaining. You can't understand that telling them to shut the f up in advance isn't somehow caring about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:37 PM
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Use your words...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:24 PM
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You sound lost. Either get into the debate or stop gumming it up with one-liners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:23 PM
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If they were really living a romantic and beautiful life, they wouldn't need to blame anything on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:23 PM
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You are writing fanfic in your head. This isn't a way that men would manipulate. The collective just doesn't stroke us the way it does for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:21 PM
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Sounds like an elaborate, imaginary boogieman that has little to do with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:20 PM
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Are you from the peanut gallery or something? Respond in the debate or just stay silent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:29 PM
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Women don't have to blame anyone if they choose to be single because they're CHOOSING peace over a relationship. Except that they are constantly on a screed about there being no "good men" and all the things wrong with men. That's called "blaming men".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:28 PM
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I think you are describing sex tourism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:13 PM
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For example, passport bros often older and overweight, pursue younger, attractive women. According to some goofy, feminist blog you read, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:12 PM
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They are welcome to do whatever they want as long as they aren't blaming anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:11 PM
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The men aren't giving advice or trying to help the women plan. They are telling them not to blame men when they wind up cat ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:06 PM
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According to your hysterical fantasy...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:01 PM
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According to the very feminine way of thinking that you are projecting onto them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:57 PM
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That would make sense if the cat ladies didn't spend so much time blaming and screeding at men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:49 PM
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That's a very silly projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:48 PM
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The thing is that the cat ladies have a reputation for blaming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:47 PM
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its a manipulation tactic This sounds like something a woman would project...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:47 PM
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One of those incels could possibly be THEM. So they are "fighting" for a world where This is just silly. There really isn't that much thought involved. It's just a way of telling people to shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:46 PM
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they also want to scare young attractive women into settling for them No, this is just your hysterical projection. No one is telling anyone to be with anyone they don't want. They are telling them not to blame men when things don't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:45 PM
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"Women should pick me NOW otherwise they'll end up alone, old, ugly, eggless and surrounded by cats!" You are totally missing the point. No one is telling women to have sex with anyone they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:44 PM
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My question is, why do men care? They don't. They aren't giving advice. They are telling someone to shut the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:43 PM
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Now it sounds like you don't understand what debate is and really just wanted to hear people agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:06 PM
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This probably isn't the right place for you if you aren't looking to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:53 PM
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It says a lot about your viewpoint that you would even assume that the people bringing the cat lady thing up were trying to give guidance or advice to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:49 PM
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I have eyes, I can see what the consensus is on single moms crystal fucking clear. Especially if the kids happened to be mixed. I believe “burn the coal, pay the toll” is the expression? I don't think that's really an expression in wide-spread use. Are you from the rural deep south or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:08 PM
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Trust me, they’ll have stories. They will probably be driven by frequency illusion and a desire to remember, emphasize and confabulate non-representative examples which validate their ideology. There are absolutely women who will look down on you too. The church ladies are definitely playing a role in all of this. Does telling women they’re gonna become crazy cat ladies and die alone if they have no husband or kids not count? What? It takes a pretty bizarre interpretation to get to "telling wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:06 PM
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Redpillers absolutely despise any woman unlucky enough to end up being a single mother, no matter now they ended up that way. Sounds like you just have an imaginary boogie man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:38 PM
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Michael Knowles said in a semi-recent clip that he was too masculine to understand how to use the washing machine. That guy is about as obvious a closet-case as I have seen in a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:36 PM
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Get real fuckin tired of people telling women who don’t want kids that they’re worthless if they don’t breed Who is actually saying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:35 PM
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I would say it is impossible not to fail at being a parent Being a good parent isn't hard to understand, it's just more work than most people are willing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:35 PM
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Older women get high on controlling younger women with fear. It's been going on since we've had church ladies, and the feminist church ladies are as bad as any that came before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:33 PM
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Women tend to be very concerned with what is fashionable, and being reasonable just isn't fashionable for women these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:44 PM
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respectful women. This just isn't stylish for women these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:30 PM
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A blog? Your opinion is a regurgitation of some stupid blog? Again, link directly to the data or stop pretending.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:57 PM
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Link directly to the data or stop pretending to have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 07:03 AM
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Are you familiar with this study?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:13 AM
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But they didn't, they cited a study. Not a real one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:15 PM
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It's not on everyone else to come up with a "rebuttal" to every nonsense claim someone pulls out of their butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:09 PM
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"Statistically speaking..." (Statistic came from butt)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:56 PM
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And of course none of them actually support the wild claims. Typical feminist blog...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:54 PM
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Up to 30% of men say they would rape if they could get away with it. According to bullshit research that doesn't actually disclose the specific questions they supposedly asked the students in one researcher's class.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:58 AM
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You pulled your point out of your butt based on data you didn't understand in the first place. Stop trying to play dress up in a lab coat, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:36 AM
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your science teachers failed you horribly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:31 AM
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You made a claim about the "cock carousel" and tried to justify it with GSS data. That all came out of your butt, and your science teachers failed you horribly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 01:54 AM
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You don’t need a license to look at a chart and examine trends. You can tell by his grandiose generalizations that he is totally unqualified to be speaking on the subject. I have a feeling you don’t understand this topic if you’re appealing to authority to this extent. You aren't making any sense. I am telling him to make clear what actually came from the research/data and what were the musings that came out of his rear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 01:46 AM
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Examining trends is not extrapolation. He isn't qualified to characterize the general state of research in any area. Looking at data he doesn't understand in the first place, then making a generalization, is an extrapolation and one that came out of his bung.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 01:39 AM
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The notion that this somehow justified your previous generalization shows that you don't have the scientific or statistical background to be speaking on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 01:28 AM
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The GSS results are not a rando's personal impressions. You are making your own extrapolations based on that data. Those came out of your rear end.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 01:21 AM
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it's not meta research, dude It's not even metaresearch. It's one internet rando's personal impressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:56 PM
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The point I just mentioned was supported by GSS trends regarding female sexual partner count. Now you are doing your own meta-research and stating your conclusions as fact. The real problem is that most people on here don't bother to research the overall topic OP or whoever is talking about I don't have any faith in a random redditor's ability to research the overall topic. "OH SEE U MADE THIS ERROR WITH THIS SINGLE STUDY HERE HAHA GOTCHA U FUKER!" If someone makes a bad claim about one study, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:02 AM
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The general thrust of the point is most often correct. Yea, maybe according to fantasy. The quality of the data is how we determine what is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:30 AM
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And even more people pull grandiose generalizations out of their butts based on weak data and speculation made by researchers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:10 AM
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Women may have more friends and social contacts, on average, than men do But how often do they secretly hate and malign each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:03 AM
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That article is full of stupid, dated clichés that don't reflect any reality in the last 40 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:03 AM
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He was an abusive coke-head, drunken asshole, but not violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:15 PM
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No, it isn't. Men don't try to fix women like that. That's something strictly for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:37 PM
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When did I say that he was violent? You don't need to be violent to be an addict POS.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:37 PM
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He never got violent with her as far as I know, but he was definitely a badly behaved, addict POS. It's very, very common among doctors and lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:43 PM
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Don't even need to. Just look at the genre. This is popular reading crap aimed at women. That's like telling me to read one of Sean Hannity's books before forming an opinion. Am I wrong? Does it even attempt to source it's claims at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:39 AM
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So back up the specific claims with links directly to the data that justifies them. Of course, you can't, because this is just a stupid, popular reading book aimed at stroking biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:32 AM
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Dude she isn’t the only one. She isn't even one in the first place. both genders have representatives in that boat. Except they don't really. This is a thing that women do. Edit: and no it wasn’t “solely” due to her claims alone. Notice how they are vague as to the number? Maybe she got one, and we don't even know if it was from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:30 AM
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“i can fix her” is a popular meme in many male groups, its not a gendered thing lol What? That's a thing that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:59 AM
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There are female criminals who also get marriage proposals and love letters etc from men like Casey Anthony That was solely according to Casey Anthony, who was a mega-narcissist and pathological liar. Richard Ramirez had rooms full of fan mail and literal groupies showing up at his trial and doing interviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:55 AM
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no one goes into a relationship wanting to be abused. Maybe not wanting, but definitely knowing that it will happen. Some women are just addicted to complete shit-show relationships. Got a few of those in my family.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:51 AM
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Are you of low socioeconomic status? And, if so, can you see how that influences mate selection? Ask that to the (raging alcoholic and coke-head) doctor my cousin recently married, then eventually divorced. He is pulling in about 400k/yr.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:47 AM
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And you have to ignore red flags that whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:44 AM
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they are, they do not choose them knowingly. This I don't buy at all. So many intelligent women go back over and over to the same dirtbag or a carbon copy. Codependence and relationship addiction is a wild world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:43 AM
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i've read "why does he do that?" by Lundy Bancroft Looks like pseudoscientific, pandering rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:42 AM
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It takes time to get old laws off the books, especially in the ass-ignorant deep south, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:26 AM
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Then they always bitch and moan as if men are doing something wrong, when it is their own delusions that make them miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:18 PM
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everyone would be calling him a coomer with "porn induced erectile dysfunction" No, that would just be the idiots who fell for those stupid Mormon anti-masturbation blogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:17 PM
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you desperately want to brow beat women who obviously don't find you attractive into being in relationships with you This is the painfully stupid idea that the feminists around here always want to project onto men. No one wants anyone to have sex with anyone they don't want to. If a morbidly obese, unshowered man felt that he was entitled to a supermodel, he would be criticized too. Does that mean anyone is trying to force him to have sex with anyone? Of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:16 PM
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You are making absurd demands of someone who obviously didn't make up the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:26 PM
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If there isn't some objective criteria, then you are just stroking some adjunct's ego. With STEM degrees, there's an objective criteria. Outside of that, it gets to be a crap shoot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:16 PM
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Ask the people who made up the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:46 AM
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In college I went to parties pretty much every weekend when I was single (and when I wasn't) Was this recently?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:36 AM
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A lot of higher education is subjective bullshit that just involves validating the political beliefs of the faculty in charge of your grades.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:33 AM
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Also not being weird about your wife earning more than you to the point you need ED medication for it. Men pick the dumbest things to get emasculated over If the women didn't think less of them for it, they wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:32 AM
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women are naturally better suited for the education system How do you figure? There are too many thumbs on the scale for that to mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:25 AM
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Understandable. Some day you will be happy that you aren't bartending.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:06 AM
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Right. All of those women just tripping over each other to marry men doing asbestos removal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:22 AM
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Seems irrelevant to me. It's just how it is for women and men. If you can understand that this is how it is for women, then you can understand that this is how it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:43 AM
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I didn't fucking read the book. So stop talking out of your ass. Why the fuck would you think me copying an image of the synopsis of a book you recommended 5 minutes ago would suggest that I had in fact read it? Because you acted like it somehow didn't support what I was saying, so I assumed you weren't making such a suggestion in complete ignorance. Again- I'd had mere minutes to have done so. AND why are you STILL asking me for my take on this book I've obviously not read. It's a famous book. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:41 AM
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What are you linking? Women don't do heavy labor jobs, even when they can. They don't tend to work out in the weather or in any kind of harsh or dangerous conditions. They are fine letting men do it, and they don't give a damn if those men every find love or commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:34 AM
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Ask the same of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:32 AM
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That's just silly. Sure, there are a small number of women who are into it, but that number is very small and the overwhelming majority have a huge ick factor over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:31 AM
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Bullshit. No they don't. Men don't hate porn stars. We just see them as unattractive for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:32 AM
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No, they just wouldn't find them attractive for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:28 AM
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You seem to be the only one who doesn't get it. If you can understand that women get the ick for bi and low-status men, then you can understand that men get the ick from promiscuous women. No one needs to offer further explanation. There really isn't one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:28 AM
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The difference is BOTH men and women are laboring. No, the men are doing the jobs that the women are unwilling to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:27 AM
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You agreed with his characterization, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:26 AM
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I DIDN'T read the book, just a synopsis So you are definitely talking out of your ass here. I doubt you read this book, Don't project your own ignorance onto me. Educate yourself. I'm not sure your point about her blaming men I was responding to what I thought was a critique of the book, but you were just talking out of your ass. Women can be cruel to other women as men can be. Women are fully formed people with layers, not dissimilar to men. So do you think that Chesler's view on the subject ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:25 AM
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they act like ick is some obvious, no-further-explanation needed thing. It is. I don't know who is saying otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:20 AM
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Your logic fell flat again. I didn't say that women aren't laboring. The women just don't mind if a less attractive men never find love or commitment so long as they keep driving the trucks, laying the bricks, emptying the portajohns, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:18 AM
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Do you not understand the "ick" feeling women get about certain men that are low-status, bi, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:16 AM
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Which means that it's a stupid, circular argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:14 AM
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They speak about them like scum. No, that's feminists. Feminists hate sex workers with a vitriol you used to only find in the churches.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:13 AM
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want a caste of women as sluts/sex workers who are never expected to find love and commitment herself lol. Kind of like how most women feel about unattractive men, except for their labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:11 AM
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They want their friends to think their woman is not only extremely desirable, but very choosy, and she chose him This is such a goofy caricature. Promiscuous women give men the "ick" in a relationship context. There is nothing special about her choosing him because plenty of other men have had her, or even "could" have her. Or they just know that trying to make a hoe into a housewife never works out. Men see it as low status for a man to be with a woman has been sexually available to many other …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:08 AM
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Chesler makes a refrain of blaming men, but that's the genre she was writing in. Do you disagree with her characterization of the way women treat other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:11 PM
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there are loads of children in the porn industry What? Call the fucking FBI!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:57 PM
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If by the 1980s your school system and local culture were not heavily emphasizing racial and gender equality, you are definitely from some ignorant rural patch.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:55 PM
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Are you from the deep south or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:45 PM
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You don't know much about statistics, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:44 PM
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I never said it was universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:41 PM
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do you mean your personal attack about my parents? You described them in such a way to make them sound like ignorant troglodytes. You might have been lying or something, but I can only go off of what you offer. i know my parents are shitty, i'm not responsible for them? No shit. I never suggested that you were, just that you were attempting to lay their behavior on society rather than their choices as individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:40 PM
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Most women are at least perimenopausal in their 40's. Add in the excessive use of antidepressants and it shouldn't be much of a surprise that many women in that age group simply aren't interested in actual sex. That isn't to say that they aren't interested in sexual content and media.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:38 PM
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were you never told that boys/men shouldn't cry growing up? It had already been seen as archaic nonsense by the time I was in grade school in the 80's. You keep dodging the point about the rotten individuals involved. That is fundamental.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:28 PM
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we literally still have gender reveals That's a very long way from telling boys that they should never cry. clothing for infants and other children is still heavily gendered Lots of parents do yellow and green clothing so that they can save them for the next children. we still have gendered ideas about what men should do (provide) and what women should do (nurture) Which is also very vague and not actually enforced in any substantive way. Face it. You just have ass-ignorant parents. Stop trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:20 PM
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Unless you lived in the ass-ignorant deep south or something, racial and gender equality was HEAVILY emphasized in schools and homes by the mid 80's. Again, it sounds like you just have trash parents and want to blame society for their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:12 PM
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do i not know what gendered socialization is? No, I don't think you actually have any coherent idea in your head. yeah millennial moms are squashing that Bullshit. That crap went by the wayside 40 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:01 PM
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Sounds sociopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:58 PM
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Cheaters are fundamentally bad people because of the deception and manipulation involved. If someone wouldn't be with you if they knew the real deal, then lying to manipulate them into staying with you makes you a parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:57 PM
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my "vague claim" is that most parents socialize their children into a gender role? I think you don't have any concrete idea of what that even means, and obviously degree is going to be a factor there. "boys don't cry" I definitely do not think that most parents say this kind of shit anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:49 PM
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I don't even know if I agree with you because what you said could mean just about anything. You pulled a vague claim out of your ass and stated it as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:44 PM
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passport broing works they just have to be themselves and women in poor countries totally desire mediocre Western men? Kind of. There are some countries where just having blue eyes gives a guy a similar dating advantage to a woman having perfect tits. And it's not just poor women who want to move to the US. Lawyers, accountants, doctors, etc. are also eager to date reasonably attractive American men even causally, assuming that he knows how to handle himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:28 PM
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It's such a vague claim that it could mean just about anything. Learn not to state your feelings as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:49 PM
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Because he has to deal with your fight or flight response behavior when it has nothing to do with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:49 PM
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Try reading Phyllis Chesler's "Woman's inhumanity to woman"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:41 PM
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I'm saying that this is another one of those "facts" that you pulled straight out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:38 PM
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It's just that it would make him the victim of your behavior, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:37 PM
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OP didn't invent the term
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:09 PM
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since sex work is becoming more and more normalised due to feminism. Feminists hate sex work aside from onlyfans.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:04 PM
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Not much of a basis for a generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:46 PM
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Did you not graduate or something? STEM degrees tend to be relatively valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:53 AM
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Still no lmao. This is just fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:52 AM
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I have a relative who is all over facebook every day talking about how amazing and empowered she is as a single woman. When she drinks, she talks about killing herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:47 AM
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Granny fetish is nothing new...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:45 AM
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Anyone who needs that much soothing and numbing has some serious problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:44 AM
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that women will "hit the wall" and regret not going for those guys when we were younger This is such dramatic horseshit. No one cares about their regret. It's just describing the situation as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:43 AM
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What was the alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:35 AM
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A lot of women basically have a dead sex drive by that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:32 AM
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So are you relying on crappy, unreplicated social science studies to make all of these hysterical generalizations, or did you just pull them out of your ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:11 AM
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That's not the young men. That's the society, which is basically entirely driven by older people because of the culture. They made it absolutely impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:08 AM
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which most parents currently do More data pulled from the ass...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:05 AM
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a guy yelling over the phone gives me flashbacks Isn't that something that you are projecting onto them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:04 AM
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the lifelong habit of making others happy Maybe in the 50's. Since then feminism has come to revere the yapping, irrational shrew.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:02 AM
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Women don’t need research to learn what happens when irate men don’t get their way. Drywall all over the world illustrates how men behave when frustrated, Sounds like you just had a childish, trash father and sought out men like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:00 AM
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You may be interested in knowing that there is a large body of social science research that shows women are less willing to engage in discussion than men. And it is overwhelmingly pseudoscientific, unreplicated trash pumped out as PR for the colleges.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:59 AM
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Because time after time, they would get one little thing in their head, then let it sit there and fester until it ended up with a big outburst. Then it would be a two hour "fight" where I'm managing them while they lose their shit. Then, after that, it would be the same thing again. Tears, apologizing for "getting crazy" and promising to be more open with what's bothering them. It would always turn out to be a very small issue, but they'd left it unattended, like a splinter that starts to get in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:58 AM
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But that's most red pill guys and passport bros... Another insight pulled straight from the ass. So you had a couple of weird friends. That doesn't justify a hysterical generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:55 AM
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I think the word applies well here. He has become exhausted from too many bad experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:52 AM
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Gaslighting, lol? Do you even know what that means? You pulled a hysterical generalization out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:49 AM
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Kids were neglected socially by their parents way more than in the modern era. No, life was much, much more social before the early 2000's. Even a neglected kid could just walk out his door and find other kids to spend time with. Now you need a whole bureaucracy of approvals to meet face to face, and some boomer will call the cops in a panic if they see two 12 year olds at a playground alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:45 AM
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That makes sense up until you see how women actually treat other women in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:37 AM
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it's possible some TRP thinkers may have been dating women with undiagnosed bipolar disorder, and it kind of interested me. I think this is what is going on behind a lot of negative generalizations about women (not just bipolar, but also borderline and narcissist), but women also tend to let mentally ill women lead them. The mentally ill ones don't have the same aversion to open conflict, so the healthier women tend to back down and follow out of fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:34 AM
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then they act as if she’s invisible or are rude af. This says a lot more about your social circle than it does about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:27 AM
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so I think a lot of the men who claim to be red pilled are usually autistic According to the data you just pulled out of your ass...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:15 AM
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Just look at the Latin root of the word. Masculine simply means "of men" and Feminine simply means "of women".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:05 AM
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Traditionally yes Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:04 AM
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im guessing it means religious, which im not, which also has nothing to do with this. You don't seem to be following what I was saying at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:28 AM
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Are you not familiar with the term?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:58 AM
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It gets to be legitimately difficult to tell the feminists from the fundies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:56 AM
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I know that feminists seem to have the most hatred for women who do sex work. Just look at the screed you went on. What kind of POS even uses the word "whore" to describe women who do sex work? It's those malicious old church ladies all over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:50 AM
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liberal feminists don’t they love that shit That's not actually reality. They spew the same hate as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:40 AM
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Feminists reliably hate sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:38 AM
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Including what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:27 AM
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So much for respecting women's choices, right? Feminists are as bad as the church ladies ever were.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:14 AM
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Why so much hatred for sex workers anyway? I used to volunteer with a city program and the abuse that sex workers received from feminists was even more awful than what they received from the fundies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:24 PM
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I think spamming multiple replies to the same comment counts as a meltdown, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:18 PM
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The only difference is the exchange of currency. If the shoe fits, wear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:18 PM
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Why does every feminist have the same meltdown every time they lose an argument, lol? That doesn't even make any sense in the context of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:09 PM
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I think what you are getting at is women who settle hard and then regret it. I know that when I turned 30, I started getting a lot of messages on dating apps from women at a particular point in their life, usually in their early 30's. There was a palpable desperation to move things quickly toward marriage, and I could see that it was a recipe for disaster. Many women go through a phase where their priorities shift quickly and drastically. The priority of how attracted they are to a man and what …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:42 PM
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A cum bucket is a cum bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:50 PM
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Then you only 'had' them in a way that a man 'has' an escort, which is a very shallow relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:56 AM
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once you had someone out of your league. 'Had' in what sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:56 AM
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I also had a cabbage patch kid and my sister was as into Laser Tag as anyone else. This sounds more like your family members were desperate to hang onto sentiments that largely faded out about 50 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:12 AM
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No, I had a toy kitchen in the 80's along with a toy chainsaw and realistic looking assault rifles and Uzis.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:53 PM
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Women are the ones who use these terms and they already see each other as children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:59 PM
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Because women are socialized to care for the home, raise the children, cook the food, do the laundry Where are women being socialized to do this in the last thirty years?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:56 AM
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You seem to be able to comprehend the idea of spanking without the intent to harm someone, but you can't understand the idea of asphyxiation without the intent to harm someone. That's not a "me" problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:32 AM
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Do you have any idea how unhinged you sound? Do you have no exposure at all to normal, adult sex lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:56 PM
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I think this has to be the stupidest conversation I have ever entertained this long.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:21 PM
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That's just painfully stupid. It is a "medical fact" that spanking can be dangerous as well, but adults understand that none of it is likely to cause harm in the context of consensual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:13 PM
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That's stupid. The "strangulation" that happens in consensual sex play is about as dangerous as the spanking, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:35 PM
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None of it is likely to cause harm in the context of consensual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:53 PM
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What on earth does this have to do with sexual acts between consenting adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:05 PM
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Is that the whole point of spanking? Lots of couples would disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:25 PM
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Spanking can cause grave bodily harm as well, but anyone who isn't a sheltered child would know what we are talking about from the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:49 PM
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The whole porn addiction hysteria is driven by Mormons and other fundies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 03:29 AM
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You couldn't possibly be that naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 03:21 AM
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And some even like to be spanked. Better clutch your pearls, doctor!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:16 AM
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No need. I think we can all take your word for it, relying on the authority of the esteemed degree that you just pulled out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:57 PM
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Do you understand that you don't have any finings, and your own links show studies that did not replicate the findings of the others?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:55 PM
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I think human sexuality is too complicated to generalize, Doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:54 PM
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Find me a source that doesn't replicate my findings. That isn't even a coherent sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:10 PM
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Do you finally understand what replication actually means? I found an article that summarizes the repeat replication of the findings This is so sad. No, you just found an article that talked about different experiments. Actually read the article I just linked so you don't sound so painfully ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:05 PM
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I guess it's my job to make up for your parents' failings. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7100931/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 03:33 PM
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I did. You made it clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. "I'm saying they point out multiple studies that replicated the same findings" LOL! You don't even realize that they need the same methodology for replication. You are painfully scientifically illiterate. This is really, really sad. I'm asking you to find something that doesn't replicate the research. This doesn't make any sense as a sentence, but since you don't even know what replication means, I shouldn't be surprised.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:22 AM
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Maybe learn what replication actually means in the context of research so you don't sound so ridiculous...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:13 AM
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https://www.khanacademy.org/science/biology/intro-to-biology/science-of-biology/a/the-science-of-biology
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 12:09 AM
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just because you can find a trauma victim who wants you to participate in their self-harm doesn't men you have to or should do it Well this is a ridiculous generalization...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:54 PM
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Buddy, I'm saying they point out multiple studies that replicated the same findings LOL! You are scientifically illiterate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:43 PM
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So you are telling me that you don't understand what replication means in the context of research?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:38 PM
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Maybe if you read the study and the article, you'd find that it was all easily replicated. What a stupid lie!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:57 PM
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How much of that trash was actually replicated?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:49 PM
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Yea, looks like unreplicated horseshit from psych and gender studies research (and popular reading, lol). Why don't you link directly to the data that supposedly justifies your absurd claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:19 PM
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it's a scientific journal Psychology Today, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:33 PM
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So I can find another hysterical blog, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:52 PM
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It doesn't get more authoritative than a blog within a blog.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:01 AM
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At one time it was more of a mildly homoerotic fraternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:51 AM
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People often pick an identity and then rationalize whatever validates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:48 AM
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It all takes its toll over time. None of it happens immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:47 AM
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Whisky doesn't tend to reduce sex drive like BC and antidepressants. And "whisky dick" describes someone who wants to have sex but is too drunk at that moment to maintain an erection, not someone who has lost their sex drive. How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:46 AM
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“ As I said, American women are going to be asexual or closer to asexual more often because of the drugs and lifestyle. And this has nothing to do with biology, in your mind? You blamed BC, Antidepressants, Yes, those can have a devastating effect. and “hysteria” If the shoe fits...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:44 AM
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What percent of young women do you suggest are taking them? Hard to say. We don't have exact data, but its safe to say a significant proportion. Antidepressants are only one aspect there, however. Many, many other psychotropic drugs can decrease libido as you can see from the links. Then there's all the boozing on top of those medications, then there's the unhealthy amount of screen time, particularly revolving around fashion and gender-rage media, the sedentary lifestyle, extremely casual sex/s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:08 AM
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A feminist getting information from a blog? Shocking! 10% of young women are taking antidepressants. About 10 of women under 40 reported taking antidepressants in 2014, although purchase data suggests that survey reports only reflect about 2/3 of actual usage, and use has increased about 35% just in the last 6 years. You also have to keep in mind that white women use them at about 3x the rate of other women in the same age group and college educated women use them at double the rate of other wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:18 AM
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Women are not as interested in sex as men. Duh. It has NOTHING to do with anti depressants. That's just silly. This is well documented, as is the enormous use in dating aged women. It’s biology. Did I suggest otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:24 PM
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Well we can't blame them. Who said anything about blame? As I said over and over, it isn't a value judgement. It's just how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:57 PM
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It just doesn't make sense to shame girls who are "asexual" due to birth control So now you actually read what I said? It's not just birth control. It's also the absurdly high rates of antidepressant usage in the relevant demographic along with the boozing, obesity, and hysterical ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:44 PM
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Okay well then enlighten me. Just read the fucking comment you actually replied to in the first place, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:24 PM
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You are just ranting incoherently. Try reading what I actually said in the first place, and maybe learn that the world is a bigger place than the warzones you see on tv.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:00 PM
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Yes I read exactly what you said. So how did you get the impression that geography changes your hormones? That's absurd. Try reading what you actually responded to in the first place. You put those words in my mouth Uh... Women who are interested in sex don't necessarily have high body counts, which isn't even relevant to the OP. You wouldn't personally know that. Do you survey women and their sex lives. No! I just don't see how anyone reading that would see you as an intelligent person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:59 PM
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Doesn't make sense. Your sex drive isn't based on your geographical location. This is hilarious. No shit! You didn't actually read what I wrote, did you? You wouldn't personally know that. So you think the only women who are interested in sex have high body counts? This is all just hysterical nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:49 PM
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Just women in other countries don’t have freedom and are forced to marry and procreate. This is such an asinine view that could only come from an American.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:37 PM
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Yes women don’t have the sex drive men do. They never have and never will. As I said, American women are going to be asexual or closer to asexual more often because of the drugs and lifestyle. That isn't a human universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:04 PM
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You speak as if women are objects. No, that's just absurd projection. The world is not some all you can eat buffet, where you can just choose what girls to date/fuck As long as there is agreement by both parties... Dudes problem isn't the women. As I said, this isn't a value judgement. Women in the US are going to have lower sex drives for a variety of reasons. Men shouldn't think that this is the only way to live. Ofc if a dude wants sex, but then spends time shaming those same girls for having…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:02 PM
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You do realize men have higher rates of addiction right? Yes, but they tend not to lose their sex drive over the types of things they are taking. If women prefer antidepressants to men to have a better quality of life what do you care? Did you even read what I actually wrote? I said it isn't a value judgement. It's just how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:43 PM
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My point is that this is neither sudden nor universal. We have a lot of asexual and demisexual people generally for a whole lot of reasons. The standard is to be a fat drunk with a terrible diet of processed crap. Women are even more likely than men to take antidepressants, and the women who would make up OP's social options are probably in the age range that is most likely to use them. Add the other medications, the copious alcohol, constantly stewing in tribalist anxiety and anger toward men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:31 PM
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A lot of this is a matter of perspective. Other countries have lots and lots of women who haven't made themselves basically asexual with antidepressants, birth control and hysterical ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:49 PM
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Do you understand that the post is criticizing hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:24 PM
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You have no business trying to debate a topic you understand this little.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:08 PM
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Do you actually understand any of this enough to have your own opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:05 PM
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Logically valid according to who? Can you respond to any of the specific points I raised?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:58 PM
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Anselm's%20ontological%20argument That's a dead link, but I gather that you are trying to tell me that Anselm's ontological argument constitutes a logically valid claim of fact about a supernatural being in reality. Is there a reason you aren't making your argument in your own words? Anselm's ontological argument fails to meet the criteria for logical validity due to several gaping flaws. It mistakenly treats existence as a predicate, a concept critiqued by Kant, leading to a non-sequitur where …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:10 PM
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No kidding. I never suggested otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:46 PM
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I'm saying there was no reason to suspect that a war profiteering homophobe who spent decades terrorizing her husband's rape victims was any more likely to appoint a 'good' justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:29 PM
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This has literally nothing to do with anything and sounds mentally ill You acted like we should somehow expect a better appointment from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:05 AM
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As I said, you just didn't understand the research. Those aren't referring to how many rapes happened or didn't, but how many police categorized as "cleared", "unfounded", or in the vast majority of cases "undesignated".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:05 PM
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Currently 97% of rapist go free. Ok, this is just hysterical. There is no way to measure how many rapes occur, or how many rapists there actually are. Since under 5% of rapes are false More hysterical nonsense. Whoever wrote the stupid blog you are regurgitating this all from didn't understand statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:09 PM
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No, that's how you get people worked up over nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:38 PM
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Men supposedly live 12 years longer if they are married Where did that claim come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:34 PM
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Hey, if she can find captain save-a-hoe, more power to her. high risk of being left when diagnosed with a long term illness are just a few to name No, this was just another hysterical myth that flew around the feminist coops. The people saying that nonsense didn't understand the science. but you will become resentful when you realise that most of the things you are doing are to benefit your kids and your partner Your partner will be facing the same thing. Don't take the job of marriage if you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:33 PM
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Show the results and you will have listeners. You can't honestly convey the science without a ton of nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:27 PM
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Between the obesity, birth control, the antidepressants and the raging political ideology, a lot of American women have basically made themselves asexual. It's not like this other places.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:25 PM
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Is that your way of dodging? Ok, prove me wrong by making a logically valid claim of fact about a magic being existing in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:23 PM
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Do you disagree that Clinton was a war-profiteering homophobe who spent most of her career running against gay rights and for mass incarceration? It sounds like you just want to doge.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:21 PM
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Oh my god you are really wound up about the Catholics. You are the one who sounds wound up. I'm just giving credit where it is due. I don’t give two shits that the Supreme Court justices themselves are Catholic. It's one of those inconvenient truths. Would Hillary Clinton have nominated conservative justices to overturn Roe? She was a war-mongering homophobe who spent most of her career running against gay rights and for mass incarceration. Who knows what kind of troglodyte she would have chosen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:23 AM
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No shit, but you can't have a logically coherent claim of fact about a magic being existing in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:47 PM
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Nothing about Catholic claims are formally valid in any real life context. This isn't just a DnD fantasy, these are claims about real life phenomena.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:36 PM
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There's nothing coherent about Catholic claims. Appeals to magic beings are fundamentally absurd in any real-life context. I am willing to admit that it would be coherent as a fantasy novel, but they claim this shit in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:19 PM
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There's nothing coherent about Catholic claims. Appeals to magic beings are fundamentally absurd in any real-life context. I am willing to admit that it would be coherent as a fantasy novel, but they claim this shit in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:19 PM
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Jesus dude. Why are you obsessed with making this about Catholicism? Did you miss the part where 5 Catholics overturned Roe? Clinton is pro-choice. Out of one side of her mouth, sure, but then she is hyper-conservative in her actions and support for evangelicalism. Maddow is Catholic, yes, but she’s also pro-choice and a lesbian. That's like being a black klansman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:18 PM
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Not entirely by themselves, no. It was quite literally overturned by Catholic justices. Can we agree that “modern feminism” has NOT been working to overturn Roe? I never suggested it was as a whole, only that it became to weak to offer and substantive resistance and that prominent figures were working against abortion rights through their religious affiliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:20 PM
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yeah catholocism isn't incoherent Right. Y'all really are drinking Jesus and the pope has a magic being that ensures the veracity of what he says.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:52 PM
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Can we agree that the Catholics overturned Roe?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:49 PM
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It wasn't the evangelicals who overturned Roe, though they deserve plenty of blame. It was the Catholics. Modern feminism was so weak by that point that it gave no substantive resistance to the decades-long Catholic legal push to chip away and finally destroy federal abortion rights. Besides, religion and feminism have always been intertwined, especially in the waves that came after the civil rights movement. Gloria Steinem was a big Catholic who gave homilies at Catholic churches. Hillary Clint…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:37 PM
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More evidence, ladies Said to the totally imaginary crowd! You are nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:58 PM
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Learn the basics of the replication crisis
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:58 PM
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Only an idiot would think that you are a victim here, and it would take an even bigger idiot to accept any of this advice. It's all a goofy LARP with an imaginary boogie man who is totally to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:59 PM
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Identifying your emotionally abusive behavior is helpful Yep. Another superhero church lading to the rescue! Seriously, many women are caught in this grey zone where they want to participate as adults, but don't want to be held accountable as adults. When you say something hysterical and asinine in a debate forum, you get criticized for it. No one is being victimized.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:45 PM
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You aren't a victim and neither is the user who was criticized. Sorry to break it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:40 PM
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That was also hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:36 PM
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Have fun with the data you pulled from your ass, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:32 PM
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Learn the basics of the replication crisis, lick your wounds, and try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:31 PM
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It actually wasn’t at all. Yes, it was. And even if you disagreed, telling someone they’re hysterical and making things up in their head I was treating them like a grown-up. That's what people do when they see women as equals. it is a perfect example of emotional abuse No, that's more of the ideological hysteria that drives this whole feminist hate movement. No one here is a victim. When you make stupid claims in a debate, you get appropriately criticized. Don't like it? Don't try to adult. that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:24 PM
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Wow. You are totally uneducated in science, aren't you? You haven't the faintest idea what a replication is or what replication even means.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:11 PM
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Feminism was/is a movement for creating equality for women. That's the chant, but no one believes that anymore. Besides, the call these days is for equity, not equality. Just like the civil rights movement was about equality for black Americans. And women. It was about equality for everyone, not the nutty tribalism that blowhards like Gloria Steinem ushered in. Feminism is an egalitarian movement at its core No, these days it's just a hate movement driven by pseudoscience and fox-news quality jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:01 PM
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Do you even understand the concept of replication at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:59 PM
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Because in the baby boomer era feminism was making strides towards equality and progress in human society. That was the silent generation. The baby boomer era was what gave us Girl Power, religious nuts like Gloria Steinem, etc, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:58 PM
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All of the big advances were part of the civil rights movement. Modern feminism just fumbled our abortion rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:57 PM
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Who do they have to blame for that? Feminism started working against itself and lots of women are pro-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:55 PM
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Wait until you learn that colleges are boosting admissions for males to increase the number of men in college. What are you referring to here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:53 PM
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If you look at the total history of feminism then sure, it’s done a lot of good. Most of those accomplishments were made as part of the civil rights movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:52 PM
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By that rationale, it's pointless to make sweeping statements about evangelicals, but many of those statements are legitimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:45 PM
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If you can read and understand their “education “ and challenge it directly, theyliterally have nothing left to say but “I feel like it’s right”. They cling to the pseudoscientific crap that gets published out of the gender studies departments.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:44 PM
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when people refer to things that are just their perspective, the way they feel things are, as if its some sort of objective reality. This is happening all over this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:43 PM
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that’s being a feminist No, that's called being an egalitarian. Feminism would be much more popular if it was actually about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:42 PM
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Sounds like more data pulled from the ass...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:41 PM
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Then by this logic you could also make the argument that older men are trying to control older women. No, that's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:40 PM
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You didn't even read it. If you did, you would understand that this is a shitty little one-off survey that some joke forced on her own classroom. We only get a very vague reference to the questions asked on the survey, and no one even bothered to try to replicate it. Do you even understand the concept of replication at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:39 PM
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Calling you hysterical and dismissing your perspective when you’re sharing lived experiences - emotional abuse. Did you see what I was responding to? It was literally fair to call hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:36 PM
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Just read the study itself instead of relying on cosmo, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:39 AM
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Do you at least understand that they even never asked the respondents if they would rape anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:27 AM
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If you actually read that asinine study, you would know that the never claimed to actually ask the respondents anything about rape. " In this study, we attempted to predict membership in the three groups (reports no intentions to be sexually coercive, reports intentions to force a woman to have sex but denies intentions to rape, and reports intentions to rape a women) based on hostility toward women scores and callous sexual attitudes." The equally asinine "attraction to agression" scale is an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:22 AM
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Did you even read the absurd "macho personality constellation"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:48 AM
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I'm aware where it comes from (TIL peer reviewed studies are a "turd"). Yes, much of what comes out of the social science field isn't substantively peer reviewed and even when it is, it typically fails replication. This is especially true for shitty little one-shot surveys the "researchers" conduct in their own classrooms. But, as you are now admitting that you haven't read the survey Read the rest of the paragraph, Einstein.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:12 AM
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It was an exact quote, copied word for word. Bullshit. This is hilariously stupid. This all comes from this gender-studies turd: https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/vio.2014.0022?journalCode=vio And it doesn't even publish the survey. It refers vaguely to the "macho personality constellation", which is just a asinine as it sounds and has nothing to do with anyone saying that would rape anyone. The actual study doesn't even make any such claim. By the way, this whole bullshit article is ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:28 PM
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I gave you an exact percentage from an exact quote. That wasn't an exact quote. You never even read the actual research. You just got worked up over some stupid bullshit you read in cosmo. TIL peer reviewed studies are "childish bull." So quote the actual response, verbatim. We know you won't because it blows that whole stupid claim about raping someone out of the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:09 PM
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I gave you a quote right there. No, you gave a vague percentage and some hysterical bullshit you read in cosmo and had nothing to do with the actual survey response. Yep. You shouldn't expect anyone to take you seriously with this childish bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:34 PM
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No? As I said, you will melt down completely before actually quoting it, because you know that the actual survey question was some vague bullshit that included fantasy and had nothing to do with saying that they would rape someone. Clear as day, my friend. Cosmo? Are you in middle school or something? This is a debate forum for adults. Link directly to the data or STFU. The US government would beg to differ. Link directly to what they supposedly said. Oh, that's right. You can't because this is …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:09 PM
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13% did Quote exactly what they responded affirmatively to. (We both know that you will totally melt down before doing this) "Facts I don't like don't exist!" There are no facts to support the imaginary wage gap. You don't even have any coherent idea in your mind of what a "wage gap" would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:01 PM
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It's not, which is why you won't actually address my argument. You don't have an argument. Your distinction is irrelevant to your own logic. I have! Great. Quote where anyone said that they would rape someone if they could get away with it. Now, dodge desperately! ...the wage gap. It's imaginary. There are no facts to support the idea that one exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:57 PM
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It has everything to do with my point No, it's just aggressive nonsense to deflect from your own blatant hypocrisy. "Facts I don't like don't exist!" You are going to feel so stupid when you actually read that survey. TIL explicitly addressing a question is Ok, what "fact" supposedly justifies your crazy claim about a wage gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:42 PM
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No it's not. Women don't try and say the babies wanted it. Again, this is just a weird distinction that has nothing to do with the point. By your logic, all women need to be taught not to kill babies for attention. Can you find me a survey where 1/3 of women say they would kill a child if they could get away with it? No, that was just a hysterical rumor that circulated among the purple hair types. Actually look at the survey and you will see that no one said any such thing. (facts that supposedl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:32 PM
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Sure, can you show me an instance of a woman saying... This is just a weird, arbitrary distinction you pulled out of your butt. The fact is that women do this, so by your rationale, all women need to be taught not to. No, it's not. That's just silly. You wonder why the movement has lost so much status over the years. It is literally a negative, class-based generalization. It's not You might as well just start stamping your feet. "Facts I don't like aren't real!" Ok, what "fact" do you have in mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:47 PM
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If you want to express your personal impressions, use "I feel like..." statements and don't try to state it as fact. It's like if I said, "The Chargers are the best football team! So you are telling me that you have no grasp of the difference between subjective and objective claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:08 PM
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Except that you were actually behaving badly, and they just stepped out of line for your religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:50 PM
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There are also serious consequences that didn't used to exist. You couldn't get kicked out of your school for asking someone on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:40 PM
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Those are exactly the kinds of places that will ban you over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:39 PM
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How do you think most people feel about someone making some shit up and stating it as fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:26 PM
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By that rationale, they would also want to be approached by Bill Gates, and they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:03 PM
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When you behave that badly, you deserve the criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:00 PM
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It's not, because those women don't try and defend themselves by saying the baby wanted it. They still do it. That must mean that all women need to be taught not to. No, It's a negative, class-based generalization. That's a slur. Yes, the patriarchy is gendered. Purposely... The fact that you believe "patriarchy is bad" means... It's another gender-slur. Wait till you find out about the wage gap. More imaginary bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:00 PM
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Just mind your own business and respect other adults. It's not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:58 PM
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And yet 20 somethings all over would still cut each other's throats to be approached by one who looks like Jason Momoa.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:42 PM
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Just stop with the crazy church lady routine and respect the choices that other adults make about their own bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:39 PM
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The average 23 year old guy is more attractive than Jason Momoa. Right. The average 23 year old American guy is an overweight virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:37 PM
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What you are suffering is called "diarrhea of the mouth".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:37 PM
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This is a thing, because boys and men shouldn't rape people and, for some reason, dudes on Reddit find this to be a controversial statement. That's like saying we need to teach girls not to kill infants for attention. Toxic masculinity is a huge problem. Toxic masculinity is a bigoted gender-slur. Not a thing. The message is clear. Obviously "patriarchy" is gendered as well. Because jobs are still discriminating against people based on their gender and race. But not against women...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:31 PM
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What groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:30 PM
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Then just don't be surprised when you are criticized for pulling nonsense out of your ass and calling it fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:26 PM
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You’re saying church lady thinking like it’s an insult yet you’re the one just acting like a prude that doesn’t like to have conversations with others. It's called having basic boundaries and respect for other adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:19 PM
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And when one pulls a claim of fact out of their ass like Gojo, feel free to criticize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:16 PM
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There's a reason in men's fashion all of the male models are young men. Except that isn't even true. Men's fashion is much more geared toward the notion of power and financial success, not physical beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:14 PM
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Don't state your personal impression as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:13 PM
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That's just a silly analogy. Adults don't have that kind of control over each other solely because of age difference, and she can probably find another partner faster than he can.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:13 PM
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Is it control or is it sharing information? It's control when you don't start out with respect for another adult's choices. You cool also argue that older men are trying to control older women because they don’t want their game exposed. These crazy church ladies aren't exposing anything but their own instability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:12 PM
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Women are better at community than men They are better at conformity. We share experiences and advise each other. And then shame anyone who doesn't conform with reputation destruction. This has all been studied. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1077801202239009?journalCode=vawa
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:11 PM
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I think you don't realize how common that sort of thing actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:09 PM
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Plenty of twenty-somethings would cut each other's throats to be approached by Jason Momoa.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:09 PM
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Wouldn’t you want to explain to them why they’re making a bad choice and to not make them? Again, this is the church lady thinking. No, I don't go around sticking my nose in other adults' business. I expect others to respect my choices and that's how I behave as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:14 AM
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You used an extreme example so I matched it. Mine was an actual example from real life though. Not every insane person is a boomer. I never suggested anything remotely close to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:13 AM
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Therefore they could use some assistance from older people to help them with their decision making. Said every crazy, controlling old church lady ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:43 AM
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That doesn't make any sense. There's no rational reason to think that those old farts melting down at walmart are master manipulators.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:42 AM
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How is it controlling if old women are just telling young women about their experiences? They aren't. They are generalizing about this type of relationship. If the woman chooses to ignore those warnings or believes the man she is interested in is different then there is nothing that keeps her from acting on her interest. They all still have to deal with the disrespect and intrusion. Gay people can similarly just ignore people who don't respect their choices, but it is still a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:26 AM
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The age is relevant to the beauty. Everyone agrees that younger women are more beautiful, even the older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:26 AM
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Just be careful about generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:34 AM
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So now this has nothing to do with age?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:33 AM
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Some people do. By that rationale, the boomers starting fights at walmart when they are asked to wear a mask are children, and age has nothing to do with it. I don't see any reason for you to disrespect the choices that other adults make about their own bodies when they aren't asking for your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:32 AM
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naivety is part of that "beauty". That's the projection. The beauty itself is more than sufficient. Why do you think fashion manufacturers use young models to sell products to older women? Everyone agrees on the beauty aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:15 AM
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And yet we don't stay children forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:14 AM
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I don't doubt that you had bad experiences, but that doesn't make it rational to project this onto large numbers of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:02 AM
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Yes, most women would be very repulsed to find out they had a relationship with someone who would hit on 13 year old girls. Anyone would, but what does any of that have to do with consensual adult relationships among adults generally?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:01 AM
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You are stating all of this as fact, but it's really all just pulled out of your rear.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:00 AM
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Just got to do with anything anyway? Most older men aren't celebrities. That's what I'm saying. You are generalizing your experience as if more attractive women wouldn't have a different experience of it. Lots of twenty-something women would cut each other's throats to be approached by Jason Momoa.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:51 AM
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A disproportionately high number of these people are pedos who would go younger if it was legal. That sounds like some hysterical nonsense that you imagined.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:49 AM
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That probably has more to do with the feminist idea that twenty-something women are children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:48 AM
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I'm in my mid 20s, and even I can recognize that a man 16 years older than me is an established grown man who just wants me because I'm easier to control and have less adult experience. Sounds to me like an imaginary boogie-man. Is it so hard to believe that men think women in their 20's are more beautiful just like women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:46 AM
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To me it just looks like you are trying to hold yourself out as superior to other adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:45 AM
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Some people might dissaprove of the relationship Some people disapprove of same sex relationships. Shouldn't we be focusing on the assholes violating boundaries instead of the adults who are making their own choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:44 AM
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Does that really have anything to do with consensual relationships among adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:42 AM
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Those older women know they were pursued by older men with bad intentions so they’re warning younger women. Old women love to control younger women under the auspices of their safety. Been going on for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:41 AM
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Most of those guys are fucking around the whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:39 AM
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I still remember being a 11 year old girl and being catcalled by older men. Do you really think those ped's are representative of every mixed-age adult relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:38 AM
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When I was 18 I thought men over 28 hitting on me was creepy lol and so did everyone I knew. That probably has as much to do with the ones who were actually hitting on you and which one's weren't. A lot of women who think this is so gross would immediately melt if Daniel Craig approached them looking like 007. The thing is that the great majority of women's experience with this phenomenon exclusively involves some old weirdo in sweatpants at walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:36 AM
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She's playing outside her league. Doesn't she have more options?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:34 AM
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we just don’t recommend that young girls under 25 date much older men Are they really asking for your advice here or are you just nosing in on other adults' personal business? because of the risks and consequences that come with that. Which are?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:34 AM
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I don't understand why you think you know better than the choices other adults make for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:33 AM
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Women like that have issues According to the data you just pulled out of your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:31 AM
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You really don't seem to understand how this works. They couldn't run away to lower status men because those men were basically enslaved or dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:27 AM
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You aren't making any sense. The women weren't choosing anything in those situations. They were the property.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:45 PM
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Just don't expect anyone to take your purely speculative conclusions all that seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:40 PM
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We can all make personal speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:33 PM
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Most men did not reproduce while the opposite was for women for a reason. Right. That reason was that the men were essentially fighting it out and dividing up the property among the winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:28 PM
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You can't make claims about the future with historical data unless you have a good reason to. You didn't. https://otexts.com/fpp2/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:27 PM
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You can't just look at historical data and pull a forecast out of your behind. You need to have a justification in a proven forecasting method.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:16 PM
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You don't understand statistics enough to even understand why you can't make forecasts based on that kind of data.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:04 PM
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This was documented by congressional investigations and the FBI None of that bullshit is reliable. It's all conclusory statements that need to be taken purely on their Scout's Honor.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:36 PM
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The majority of very poor people are white.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:20 PM
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I thought this was old news. Gloria Steinem was a CIA employee for her entire rise to fame. https://uscpublicdiplomacy.org/blog/feminist-was-spy The ostensible target was the Soviet Union, but I think it is clear looking back, especially considering the FBI's role in the Black Power movement, that undermining the Civil Rights Movement was the real objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:58 PM
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That's getting a bit pedantic, but you aren't anywhere close to being able to make the kind of extrapolations you were trying to with that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:10 PM
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And this is "all available evidence"? You can't make the kind of extrapolation you are trying to from the Pew poll.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:54 PM
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It doesn't sound like this is actually about any particular research. What specific data do you have in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:21 PM
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Young men are unmotivated, don't work much Who do you think is doing all the roofing jobs, landscaping, construction laboring, etc? Out of sight, out of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:20 PM
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Nope. People forget that look’s effect ur status and gives a hint about ur ability to protect and provide. In the ancient world, women didn't have much of any say in the matter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:53 PM
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Oh, yea. Asian guys definitely don't like tits, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:28 PM
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Grownups link directly to the data and make their arguments in their own words.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:40 PM
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Frankly, for most of human history, women's opinion of men just didn't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:39 PM
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T&A never goes out of style for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:28 PM
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“Their own instincts” are to choose men who are more likely to have sons that will have sex with many future women in order to pass on their own genes. This is the sexy son hypothesis. Throughout history, a man's ability to reproduce had a lot more to do with his resources and capabilities rather than his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:26 PM
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Muscle mommy/dom” is a relatively recent one This fetish has been around forever. big butts with thin waist are something new as well etc. Media actually made for men has always had a focus on T&A. The whole skinny thing has always been something that appeals to women more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:24 PM
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https://slatestarcodex This isn't a legitimate source for a claim. If you want to use some data mentioned there, just link directly to the original data itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:21 PM
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Women don't know what they want any more or less than men do. Uhh, this is just silly. Men have a much more direct, instinctual drive for women's bodies. It's why you could publish a magazine with nothing but pictures of women's bung holes and men would buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:17 PM
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I just wouldn't call that wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:42 PM
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When you paint every person with issues as inherently bad and always at fault Thanks, Kathy Newman. This your second really irrational interpretation of what I actually said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:20 PM
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I don't think you're anywhere near ready for the subtleties of the challenge that is marriage. I don't think anyone is ready for the kind of crazy marriage you are describing. People live in communities and the community has always been a powerful force in seeing to it people behaved well in marriage. Just be honest before marrying someone that you plan to run to the group chat for validation. That way they at least know what they are getting into. If a relationship is definitely on its way out …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:19 PM
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I understand that people fuck up in relationships, but complaining about an SO publicly is definitely an example of fucking up in a relationship and a sign that the person complaining has a long way to go before being ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:16 PM
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and if you're into divorcing early as soon as there is trouble so you can then just immediately say whatever to whomever about the crazy ass behaviour That is also a really unhinged interpretation of anything I actually said. but most people feel that having made a commitment sort of warrants sticking with it through a bit of hassle How does that require complaining about your SO in group chats or on social media? I personally think it's best not to ever have a relationship with anyone at all ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:47 PM
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Dust in the wind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:38 PM
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I never said that people shouldn't talk to their friends about their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:36 PM
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He thinks people getting help is a bad thing That is a completely absurd interpretation of anything I actually said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:35 PM
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Ah
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:32 PM
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Although, I vent, I still try to present both sides of a story. It's basically humanly impossible to do a good job of that. Communicating is good, but sometimes it leads to more aggression, burnout and not solving any problems. If it gets to the extent of seeking validation outside the relationship, that's a significant red flag for the person and the relationship's longevity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:31 PM
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I didn't suggest that anyone should not ask for help when trying to escape a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:29 PM
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Keeping your mouth completely shut about the things that are wrong... This is such an extreme interpretation of what I said. I'm just talking about people complaining about their SOs in group chats and on social media. It's however definitely something strategic that should be considered. If you're having problem because of his behaviour it probably is foolish to create a false reality to present to the world that completely hides that the problem that is destroying you is even possibly a proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:28 PM
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That all just sounds like someone who isn't ready to be in a serious relationship in the first place, and this definitely isn't something that is limited to teenagers. Lots of 30 and 40-somethings do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:20 PM
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No, if you have a good friend they are going to be honest with you. What does that have to do with throwing a massive tantrum over a minor issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:16 PM
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That's ridiculous. You have basically two people making their own conclusions and generalizations about what other non-rigorous, shitty little experiments "suggest" collectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:14 PM
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Sounds like they weren't ready for an adult relationship. That's not the thing you put out over social media or group chats.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:11 AM
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I don't see what this has to do with complaining about an SO in a group chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:09 AM
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I think this is less of a problem, but you still have many of the same issues with external validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:09 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com The hallmark of crappy little experiments, lol! A review of 56 studies conducted by linguistics researcher Deborah James and social psychologist Janice Drakich So they didn't even bother with an experiment. This was instead a crappy literature review where two idiots made speculation and hysterical interpretations on non-homogeneous data. Literature reviews like this aren't even substantively peer-reviewed in the first place. Welcome to the field of psychology. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:26 AM
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Which means, if a woman is actually talking equally as much as a man, she's PERCEIVED to be taking more. Assuming you can take some crappy little experiment and make a huge generalization based on it. Good thing that's not how science works.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:22 AM
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similar to that study where in a group, if women spoke about 50% of the words, the men were under the impression that women lead the conversation, but 30% meant it was "equal". You shouldn't read too much into that pseudoscientific crap. It's never rigorous and no one even tries to replicate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:20 AM
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I have seen women throw massive tantrum to their boyfriends over a minor issue This is sooooo common these days. You would see this in the past, but everyone seemed to understand that it was bad behavior from a childish adult. Now it's like the norm and totally supported by their friend groups as if it is empowering.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:43 PM
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There are certain..uh..folks whom you should not attempt to make a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:16 AM
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You are talking about a guy who was so morbidly obese and ill that he died at 40, and I still don't buy that he didn't get laid when he was touring with BOC. You are making my point for me. I never said it was magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:29 PM
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How exactly are you defining "status" here? Just having skill and talent gives you some kind of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:47 AM
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There is a power imbalance with wealth gap relationships. It's called financial abuse. Financial abuse isn't an automatic product of a wealth disparity, you have to have enough of a wealth disparity such that one partner can't survive and then you have to have the abuse actually happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:21 AM
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Just don't do it at your school, your job or anywhere you don't want to get arbitrarily banned for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:10 AM
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but I've never seen a woman that was combative/capable of being combative really engaging in that kind of behavior. Women that are capable of being direct don't need the deniability of a hypothetical situation or a blind test to get the answers they want to any question they have for or about the man they're with. You should meet a couple of my exes. They could do both on a professional level.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:40 PM
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It's easy for good people to get isolated by their toxic family members. Not having a bunch of bad relationships is a good sign, but not making any effort to build good relationships is a bad sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:38 PM
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Rather moot point. That's ridiculous. How fast you go down is a matter of tremendous consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:32 PM
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I never suggested otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:00 PM
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I agree that heroin and crack are even more destructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:59 PM
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Why not look at it as the average man not being good enough? I only have what I have because I had what I had. Maybe these men are failing themselves, but that's also heavily influenced by how badly they were failed. I got lots of time to run free, surprisingly hardcore martial arts training, 1-on-1 music lessons, had five different people teaching me how to lift, got to ride motorcycles and shoot in grade school, etc. etc. etc. I thought my social life was boring, and it sucked relative to what…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:56 PM
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Procrastination is not apathy, its the product of disassociation and unprocessed trauma. I'm not saying that it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:48 PM
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That's just a desperate false equivalency. Sedentary life and shit food destroy your body and your mental health. It's not just like anything else. Yes, you can smoke crack and damage yourself too, but you are trying to act like you aren't putting yourself in the shitter physically and mentally with that level of gaming and trash consumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:47 PM
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Excessive gaming damages your physical and mental health, and excessive shit food intake damages your physical and mental health. If you choose to do that for the rest of your life, don't act surprised when you wind up exactly where that would land you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:41 PM
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Are you one of the few guys over 60 who didn't treat their body like shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:27 PM
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There's no rocket science is understanding a morbidly obese man sitting in front of a screen for five hours a day and blaming his problems on everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:00 PM
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Based on real statistics With secret math. This is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:58 PM
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No, you seem desperate to straw man me. This is a debate. Often the debaters don't leave in agreement. Let's let the audience decide which one of us is making sense right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:53 PM
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I stopped reading after your asinine interpretation of something I didn't actually say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:44 PM
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The number came from a novelty calculator on a blog. Just think about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:44 PM
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In my view you are advocating men replace hobbies you see as bad with ones you see as good. As I said, a sumo-like calorie intake and sedentary lifestyle is objectively bad for you. If that's what you choose for yourself, you can't blame women for your shituation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:33 PM
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What do you mean by "the removal of hobbies"? Who is doing the removal?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:17 PM
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Just because you hate video games Did I say that I hate video games? These replies have been so hysterical. I really think that a lot of the manosphere has gotten even worse than feminism for this kooky black-and-white thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:00 PM
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You are advocating the removal of hobbies This is absolutely hysterical. No one is talking about outlawing video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:58 PM
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First of all he didn't assert that number as dogma, twice he said "about" He claimed that it was a direct result of research and calculation. In reality he went to a novelty website. Can we agree on that much? 10 out of 50 women you meet under 30 are going to fit that criteria According to data from the butt and what amounts to some stupid game on a blog. This is the whole point about men not seeing the worth of their time I don't see how that justifies the use of goofy pseudoscientific crap lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:57 PM
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You tell men to go do things to get women that included changing who they are as a person. Someone suggesting that you listen to an audiobook while you play your fifth hour of videogames for the day isn't asking you to change who you are as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:32 PM
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No, that's your victim mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:17 PM
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It doesn't actually give any information about how it calculates those numbers. You understand that each of those factors are going to have overlap, and that you can't just multiply one percentage after another, right? The way adults do it is not to play with some goofball calculator on a joke website and then assert a number as dogma. Find a peer-reviewed article making the claim about a number, and the article will lay out the actual math they used to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:14 PM
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Most people can exercise what, 2 hours per day max? The folks I am talking about aren't exercising 2 hours per day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:12 PM
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That looks like a joke website
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:18 AM
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kids from big families Yes, but I think sometimes this gets into that weird fundy shit where people use their older children as nannies to handle the ridiculous amount of kids god told them to have and all of them suffer. Still I think if people know what they are in for and choose not to have kids it is usually a better deal for everyone than if they have kids and wind up resenting them and half-assing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:16 AM
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What you fail to realise is that most of the time men who choose activities such as video games and other indoor activities is mainly cause they are trying to fill in a void. I understand that part of it, and there is nothing very new about self destructive behaviors to fill a void. Many people just assume such men never tried before to get women. I don't assume that, but at some point the destructive behavior becomes something that requires the man to play his part to maintain. heal while doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:08 AM
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Ok, what was the exact equation that produced the number 14?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 02:43 AM
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Yea, he pulled that number out of his backside.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 02:16 AM
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I get 2+2=4, you tell me that you're not getting 2+2=4. You didn't get 14 from a calculation. You pulled it out of your butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 02:15 AM
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"Vast majority" could mean anything from 99% to 90% to 85% because "vast majority" isn't a number. It's just a big majority. It's a reference to a pretty specific range of numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:41 AM
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You've literally been linked to the calculator ages ago lmfao That doesn't get me to the goofy 14 number you pulled out of your butt after having fun time with those calculators.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:34 AM
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Ok, the average man today doesn't really cut it then. I wouldn't look at it that way. We are seeing the results of massive, complex waves of factors. We all get handed our age and generation. So, a man would have to improve himself to be above average relative to current societal competition to be a viable candidate for dating, would you agree? I don't know, but all men have to constantly improve to deal with countless hazards, challenges, threats, survival, etc. This has always been the case. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:33 AM
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Oh god, you're actually asking me how an equation and a calculator works. We both know you pulled this number out of your rear. Stop trying to attribute it to some mysterious "calculator". You played with some websites and then came up with an arbitrary number that probably murders any semblance of statistical rigor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:26 AM
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Not at your fingertips, nor easily avaible, nor in high quality, nor with every song you can imagine no matter how obscure it is. But we agree that people could watch and listen to talented musicians all day, right? it's 2024 any influence a piece of literature will give you will be offset by 5 hours of content. What kind of content do you have in mind? If someone shot you and you shot yourself afterwards don't make the person that shot you innocent You never got shot. You faced a more challengi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:24 AM
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You keep thinking I'm doing this when it's really just a website. Who specifically came up with the number 14?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:23 AM
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I feel like a lot of young men today share the modern views.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:22 AM
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I guess the early exit of shop and home ec had as much to do with my region's inability to fund our school systems as the changing political landscape, but home ec was definitely a dirty word by the mid 80's in my area of the country. Still, those broken homes and the latch key life were why those generations had less exposure to child care. Boomers grew up in intact (if often miserable) families with more interaction among extended family members, church communities, etc. where they would have …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:20 AM
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I think the boomers (and Xers and millenials at this point) who grew up in front of a TV or the very early net and came out ok-ish just plonked their own kids down in front of the net and figured it would all figure itself out. This definitely factors in. I saw all kinds of this shit, and I think a lot of it stems from resentment at having to do actual parenting. Millennials and exers were kind of the first generations to grow up in nuclear homes without a whole lot of involvement with extended …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:58 AM
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the vinyil is a disembodied voice while the person in the video is a breathing human being. We have had video of musicians for a long time too. Truth hurts or you can wrap your life around the fact that lord of the flies is not a reflection of human behavior but raw author nihilism. And just giving this sort of thing thought improves a young man. It is completely asinine to say that study of literature doesn't result in personal development. I do when those happens in this exaclty same order, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:53 AM
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No, the calculators outright tell you where the data comes for each possible figure Wait, for the 14%? What I don't buy is your ability to analyze several figures and come up with your own. EDIT: IT TURNS OUT THAT HE GOT THE NUMBER FROM A JOKE WEBSITE You just claimed that men fucked themselves over for choosing to enjoy their lives This is just hysterical. That's not what I said at all. You just got the backup with specifics I still don't see anything that would lead us to your 14% number. Give…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:42 AM
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Do you think men have gotten worse? I am trying to think of a way to answer this, but it's difficult. In terms of physical activity, diet, and self-development, yes, men have gotten worse. I don't think that translates to being 'worse' overall, although I think their mental health situation is going to suffer for this unique mix of challenges. date a guy from the era when you were young? Physically, definitely. As far as social skill and impressive talents like music and athletics, almost certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:37 AM
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and just decided it was easier not to go through all that hard work and heartbreak at all. I don't think it's that simple. Human motivation, anxiety, trauma, etc. is extremely complicated. Lots of people who have trouble losing weight have a lot of anxiety about the situation rooted in childhood. It's not really a "decision" directly, although there is some decision involved in not seeking help or a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:26 AM
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Yeah I remember that we had vinyil of every single imaginable song The basic point is the same. You don't need to be the greatest musician someone has ever seen or hear to impress people. No studying literature do not help you understand humans... This is just painful. You can argue anything, it don't make it any true not even useful. If you shot yourself or someone shot you the end is the same you got shot, in sum, the result was the same. I think this makes my point, right here. You get to com…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:20 AM
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For me, the "very basics" is our motivations for creating good habits. I don't think any men from any generation have been able to rely on that. Most people don't go to the gym at all, it's hyperbole to call that "catastrophic problems with basic motivations". If they don't do some kind of regular exercise, that shoe fits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:10 AM
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Census data, theres a billion calculators for this online that effectively just calculate how many people in an age range fit certain characteristics. Thats also with me being generous and just keeping it those 3 exclusions. It sounds like something that came more from your own interpretation of many figures, and I'm not sure that's going to give you accurate numbers. But you dont really have an answer to the problem that is the state of the market. I never claimed to. Of that 14% Again, without…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:09 AM
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That kind of health problem won't necessarily manifest at 40, and I'm not sure that I would even agree that you are free of health problems now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:00 AM
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Instead I figured it was useless, no one would ever find me attractive, so don't even try. This is a big part of human experience, and I understand. It's not as easy as just telling someone to turn their life around, but at some point, we can see from a birds-eye view that there are a lot of extremely unhealthy habits that have reached epidemic levels in young men, and no one on the outside is going to be able to turn it around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:58 PM
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So enjoy your life with what you like to do for yourself. Why shouldn't you? If you basically floor it on the road to obesity, that was what you chose for yourself in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:56 PM
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I hear it from men and women all the time. They say if you're going out, you should primarily be interested in whatever event it is, not just out to meet women. I don't hear anyone saying this kind of thing, and I would have no patience for that kind of advice if I did hear it. As I said, we are all responsible to some degree for the advice we choose to take. I think they say this because of the men who have no social skills and are obviously just hitting on women and not even pretending to be i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:54 PM
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I guarantee you that that amount of unhealthy activity has impacted your long-term health and will continue to for some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:51 PM
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Can we agree that every man has to do some amount of developing himself to be successful to any degree, and that this has always been the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:50 PM
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Of women 18-30, only around 14% are childless, unmarried and not fat. How did you come up with that 14% figure? EDIT: HE GOT IT FROM A NOVELTY CALCULATOR ON A BLOG but the conversation still continues to be "why dont you do more for scraps" Do you understand that I am not telling anyone to do more than men did in previous years? Video game addiction was not anywhere near as common as it is today. no one wants to work like a slave for 80 hours a week only to be able to afford a dollar menu meal f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:49 PM
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a woman can at any point go to youtube and see someone with 1000 hours playing the same instrument That's more or less been the case since we had vinyl. If they're shafted they aren't shafting themselves, they're just geting the shaft period. I would argue that they are also shafting themselves with self-destructive behavior. First one of the core of games is sound design People listen to beats while they play all the time. It's just one example of how a young man can make an effort to develop h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:45 PM
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I'm talking about sins related to healthy lifestyle, like bad diet and smoking or drinking to excess, not some notion of sexual sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:37 PM
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I don't think diet and gym is some magic solution. For obesity, it's an effective solution. What is usually missing is in person socialization in mixed gender groups. Yes, but even when those were more widely available, lots of men men would have still failed if they lived the same lifestyle they do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:35 PM
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I'm not sure if diving into self-destructive habits is a reasonable interpretation of that advice in the first place. That said, we all have some responsibility for whose advice we choose to accept. Alternatively when they go out to meet women, they're told "you shouldn't be out here for women, but because you want to for its own sake". Who exactly is saying this kind of thig? It really flies in the face of human nature and history. When they go to the gym "do it for yourself, not to be attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:32 PM
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Referring to the "vast, vast, majority" of men is talking numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:47 PM
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And above you are pretty much describing the men who can't get it up, and we're not talking about them. That doesn't make any sense. Even if you can get it up, you won't have a very robust sex life you can't walk to the mailbox without wheezing. That describes a significant proportion of American men over 60. What I'm saying unequivocally is that your libido at 60 will not be what it was at 30. That doesn't mean that you can't bust one everyday if you are healthy at that age. You will produce le…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:45 PM
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Very, very few of us have the drive to have sex every day. That is going to say a lot more about your social circle than about men and aging generally. The majority of American men over 60 have completely let themselves go, long before, and fail to meet even the most basic recommendations for diet or physical activity. That doesn't meant that there is anything about being 60 that prevents you from having a robust libido, or that there aren't plenty of 60+ men who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:17 PM
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Yea, this is the imaginary boogieman that drives a great deal of modern feminist discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:08 PM
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but if whatever post cast is anything like PPD then I can see why the people on the show and even in the comments would be investigated. Investigated for what? I know it is a common talking point here that men want women to be forced into looks matched relationships and that women shouldn’t get a say in that. This is absolutely absurd. Be honest. You don't actually see anyone saying that. You heard in some hysterical political echo chamber that this is going on, and just accepted it as dogma.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:07 PM
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If you want to see numbers go do your own research. You pulled those numbers out of your butt in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 09:49 PM
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Probably applies to the vast, vast majority of men though. That sounds like data pulled from the butt. As you age you're more likely to see a decrease in libido, likely to take longer to get an erection, likely to struggle more with maintaining an erection, What specific ages are you talking about, and what percentage of men supposedly have these problems consistently? How does this compare when laid over women's decline in libido? less likely to be able to go again multiple times in one day. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 09:09 PM
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in an LTR you'll both go through peaks and troughs in libido. Uh, this definitely does not apply to all men. Lots of men would fuck every day into their sixties if they could, and lots of men can get it up in their 80's depending on medication and medical conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:07 PM
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It wasn’t that great for my grandmother. It wasn't any better for your grandfather. You could just as easily write up a whole thing about how miserable his life and occupation were.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 07:16 PM
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Most don’t. That says one hell of a lot more about your taste in men than it does about men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:20 AM
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That's what you pulled out of your butt. You had no business claiming that it was justified by the linked paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:02 AM
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To shift blame for the inevitable results of such a self-destructive habit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:39 AM
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You acted as if the research justified your claim. It was just your ridiculous, original "research" that you did in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:35 AM
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I can't tell if we disagree on anything. If she is getting plowed by another guy that night, the first guy is probably getting tricked into buying even the coffee, unless he was never interested in her for more than casual sex, in which case she wouldn't expect him to take her on romantic dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:34 AM
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you pulled a claim out of your butt and tried to attribute it to scientists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:44 PM
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Though, I only have completed a 30ECTS minor in behavioural psychology Then you knew better and did it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:42 PM
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In other words, you pulled a claim out of your butt and tried to attribute it to scientists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:12 PM
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Then they wouldn't be complaining so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:10 PM
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Do you understand that you are making claims of fact about the data that the researcher's are not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:40 PM
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But not if you simply pass on the opportunity to be a horrible human for personal gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:27 PM
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It's literally in the PDF Bull. Where? The data tables show how Ah, so it was your own personal impression/musing about what the tables as a whole "show", and nothing that was actually attributable to any specific data. Shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:18 PM
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By that rationale, anyone would do anything as long as it would benefit them. We have been through this over and over. What you are trying to express is the trait of Machiavellianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:17 PM
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Why would men put more effort in than that when the women aren't even dating them exclusively at that point? Do you really expect them to spend hundreds of dollars on an evening with a woman just so she can go get posted by some other guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:03 PM
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It's really more simple than this. Women have an instinctual aversion that makes the idea of a man who can't get sex unattractive. Men have an instinctual aversion that makes the idea of a woman who gives up sex too easily unattractive for commitment. No one is "against" anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:59 PM
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It literally says it on the data tables. BS. This sounds like data you pulled from your butt. What specific data tables justify your goofball interpretation that equated having the fantasy to "being fearful and having past traumas of Sexual assault"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:56 PM
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I lack the proper personality disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:58 PM
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Another hysterical reply from u/safinated? Shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:20 PM
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That is why said trauma and fears makes up the majority of cases, atleast in the study OP posted. No, you just don't understand how to read that kind of scientific literature. Nothing about the data presented justifies that kind of claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:12 PM
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It was very close. No, your reply was absurd. Having aversive fantasies about past trauma or fears is a coping mechanism for many people. That doesn't lend to a conclusion that the only people fantasizing about SA are recovering from trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:48 PM
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A shocking number of y'all seem to be into exactly that and little else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:46 PM
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So, according to you, being fearful and having past traumas of Sexual assault makes you somehow want more of it? Thanks, Kathy Newman, but that isn't anything close to what they wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:39 PM
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Men also are attracted to women that have Dark Triad personality traits. No, but they are willing to overlook them if she is attractive enough or if they are desperate. Women are actually drawn towards the traits themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:38 PM
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Feminism teaches this explicitly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:23 PM
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That's too broad a question to mean much, but considering the monologue you just had, I should probably count my blessings for the attempt at a real conversation. Women are not innately more or less likely to be a good person than men are. I think that a lot of American culture is trash, and the current state of mainstream feminist ideology is a great example. Plenty of culture that men are involved in is trash too, with sports culture being a great example. Religion is still probably the worst …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:51 AM
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i mean, you hate women enough... That is a completely absurd take. Try reading back through what I said and respond to me instead of having a childish screed at some imaginary boogieman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:20 AM
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How shocking that you resorted to a catty little personal barb instead of dealing with anything I actually said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:13 AM
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So the feminist bigots won that round. At least we know who the bad guys are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:11 AM
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That doesn't excuse the bigotry and hypocrisy displayed by the feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:04 AM
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Look at all the feminist protests on campuses when student groups tried to host speakers about men's issues. Here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiRasOrIoYQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ4wljj7syY
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:11 AM
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What happens when men try to build those spaces? Obviously the feminists freak out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:54 PM
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The fact that you think there are "male empowerment spaces" in real life shows me where you spend your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:16 PM
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I don't have a problem with self-professed echo chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:22 PM
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We can see a parallel in white supremacist discussion boards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:43 PM
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Why should they? Because they claim to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:05 PM
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If left alone and not curated any online space goes one or both of two ways. Totally deserted or porn, spam, trolling, illegal shit and aggression You are making a false dichotomy. Nothing about basic moderation requires allowing only one viewpoint on the relevant topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:05 PM
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They make a lot of nonsense replies where they just talk past the asker with self-affirming platitudes. Ask a clarifying question? Banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:03 PM
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Tell me you spend your whole life on reddit without...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:01 PM
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Most bigots don't like their assertions about the bad ones being questioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:58 PM
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Or a mutually shared fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:57 PM
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Social media spaces in general tend to create alternate realities where anything that goes against the orthodoxy of the specific group and its moderators gets banned. This is basically what human spaces do to a large degree. Before social media, they just met and did this in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:56 PM
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The idea that people in power welcome the chance to refute opposition viewpoints is painfully naive. Except that not all subs are as censorious as the feminist ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:55 PM
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It's not an ideology that is heavy on logic or sense-making. Like other religions, it's more about feelings and bonding over a mutual enemy. I just want to know why they can't advocate for men too? Identity politics is never about their own identity. It's always about the identity of the enemy/bad guy. If they started advocating for men, then they wouldn't have a constant boogieman and the whole structure falls apart. What the reasoning behind blaming all men as being the abusive people, and rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:52 PM
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Stop trying to convince everyone that your shit smells like roses and enjoy cranking it to your porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:14 PM
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Just because your preferred porn comes in text form doesn't mean you aren't turning your own crank just like the guy watching hentai. Get off your high horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:08 AM
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Ripped apart?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:02 AM
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A lot of that sentiment is in their relationships and attitudes towards women no. Men dropping effort in relationships when they get comfortable. Men leading a woman on for her attention but knowing damn well they do not want to keep her and surprised she is upset. A general lack of empathy in regards to how they treat us. Sounds like you are generalizing your experiences onto the entire world. The men you chose is a reflection of your own family and culture, not a reflection on billions of men …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:01 AM
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You shouldn't expect anyone to take you seriously with such over the top hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:57 AM
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Sounds like a bunch of cliches.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:49 AM
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recent overturning of Roe, that women are still not legally as free as men That makes zero sense at all. Religious nuts push pro-life policies. The rest of us suffer. This isn't something men are forcing on women. Most heavily religious people in the US are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:47 AM
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And they have been dealing with free speech for generations. Any semblance of free speech would cause total chaos in China.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:30 AM
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Or it's a crazy religion that hates men. It really depends on which phase it was in at any given time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:29 AM
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Funny how your answers are always vague handwaves that don't actually back up what you claimed in the first place...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 08:12 PM
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Doesn't sound like you had a coherent idea in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:27 PM
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So stop being so coy and go one by one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:19 PM
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Jumping in here, but the way to settle this would be to figure out when women were allowed to own property.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:10 PM
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Jumping in here, but it really is. Lots of baristas have postgraduate degrees. Same with servers and bartenders.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 06:54 PM
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It's just how grownups make claims online. Withholding the sources is childish and a waste of everyone's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 06:19 PM
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No, they definitely do try to justify their own, deeply bigoted perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 06:10 PM
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I’m explaining why the perception exists. As I said, this is something that racists also do, using the exact same reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:15 PM
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Ok? If the shoe fits, wear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 09:18 PM
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Got some half-decent mileage out of that myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:39 PM
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Your thinking is basically the same as a lot of racists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:36 PM
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You can cherrypick some examples I bet, but obviously women are less likely to engage in socially destructive behavior. I've heard racists make this same argument to justify their opinons about black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:23 PM
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Because for enough people clearly the worst things they’ve experienced or witnessed/heard were from guys? Does this justify bigotry towards other classes too?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:22 PM
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because it really goes to "who started the paperwork". It's an administrative stat. Who murders who is an "administrative stat", and knowing who chose to get divorced is relevant in those conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:18 PM
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It's all an eco-chamber buddy! At least it's good for the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:16 PM
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how to classic dance to meet a lot of girls "unlock" a relation and sex. Did the dancing not work for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:15 PM
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I think it’s just because everyone knows a man who has done something bad and it’s completely plausible that another man did the same thing. Sounds like classic bigotry. Imagine saying that about black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:12 PM
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He really should have included the sources in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:11 PM
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I think you are just desperate to hang on to this imaginary straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:46 PM
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Sounds like you had to reach back ten years to find one other person who made the same irrational interpretation/projection that you did based on the same vague anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:55 AM
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How is it imaginary? Because it came out of the land of pretend. We can read it here every day. Then link to it directly. It's common knowledge In your LARP...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:39 PM
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Looks like there was no point to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:38 PM
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Hysterical because of what she pretends is going on in men's minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:37 PM
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Don't dump the cost of your stupid decisions on the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:33 PM
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What a terrifying thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:32 PM
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I think someone watching 90 day fiancé is an even bigger red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:17 PM
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What makes you obsess about these guys enough to pretend that you can read their minds?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:24 PM
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“your brain isn’t fully developed until age 25”, which might be true https://www.iflscience.com/does-the-brain-really-mature-at-the-age-of-25-68979
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:15 PM
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They want it to be easier for them to get into one Like clockwork, in comes the goofy mind reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:13 PM
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nono, "the wall" is a concept from men's subs What does this have to do with your hysterical mind reading fantasy about what is in the head of a man dating a younger adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:04 PM
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and so is 22 and 42 Who are you to judge what those adults choose to do with their own lives? I don't buy that you are any more wise than they are in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:02 PM
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Ppl in large age gap relationships are forcing it. I can never connect with guys more than 5 years older or 5 years younger than me. It's amazing how eager women are to generalize their own experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:59 PM
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guys think that by dating someone younger they are taking revenge on women who didn't pay attention to them in their 20s. According to some bullshit you read on a feminist blog, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:52 PM
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It's still their revenge fantasy to date a younger woman and they already fight the imaginary LOL! The "science pilled" guy went into full fantasy mode and pulled an imaginary boogie man right out of his ass. Time to return that diploma.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:51 PM
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This depends entirely on the type of woman that you are with. If she wants you as a father figure, this will repulse her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:25 PM
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How is this any more ragebaity than the mountains of posts from men about sex being mandatory What do you have in mind here? Can you link one?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:02 AM
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Most women do most of the housework and childcare in the home. According to crappy, unreplicated survey research that only tells you about people's perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:58 AM
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If you just go out and date them, and respect their friendships no one will say that about you. That's hilarious. The feminist Peanut Gallery will imagine a secret nefarious motive if that's all they can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:57 PM
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I think it's great; easier to weed out the crazies if you've spent years getting to know them or their families before dating them. That could also be very limiting in terms of finding someone if your views aren't perfectly in synch with the local culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 08:25 PM
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People used to be a lot more open to conversation generally. It is still like that in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 08:22 PM
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Is he after me and mine or is he just chilling?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:39 PM
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For Down's, it's 1 in 1250 for a 25 year old mother to 1 in 1000 at age 31, 1 in 400 at age 35, and about 1 in 100 at age 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:06 AM
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Marrying young and having kids young is worse and riskier Not for birth defects...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:51 PM
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The real caricature is the myth of the naive, virginal, submissive Asian woman who is magically available to Western men. You are the one carrying that myth around. Most men who go to other countries are going to be dating educated women who live comfortably.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:16 PM
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American women are so medicated that a lot of them are basically asexual anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 07:19 PM
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I wasn’t referring to successful or educated women I know. You have a ridiculous caricature in your head. I’m talking about the women who are available to men who are socially and sexually unsuccessful in their own country. Again, this is all some caricature in your mind. If a man really wants to test her affection and respect, he can ask to move in with her instead. Why wouldn't they just decide like any other couple?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 06:35 PM
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Sounds like speculative musing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 06:33 PM
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They truly have no idea, they believe the naive, unspoiled act and want to believe the self-created myth that they magically stumbled across a twenty year old virginal Russian or Asian woman. This is all just a hysterical caricature. There are countries where women react to blue eyes the way that men react to perfect tits, and plenty of successful women in those countries are interested in dating American men even casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:32 PM
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Passport bros come out as either predatory or losers. According to the caricature in your mind...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:24 PM
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You forgot brain scans. No, those studies still relied on crappy survey research for their conclusions. Try a biology 101 class to learn the basics. And for narcissism testosterone is positively correlated with higher narcissism. According to unreplicated, bullshit survey research...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:59 AM
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Yep, looks like a pile of crappy, unreplicated survey research that doesn't actually come anywhere near justifying your grandiose generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:07 PM
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Realizing men tend to be less empathetic. Realizing men tend to be more narcissistic Realizing men tend to only care about looks. Sounds like crappy survey research. What data do you have in mind here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:20 AM
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when women do this they are blamed for being mistreated by those men That's not a fair characterization. They are blamed for going back to the same type of man over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 08:47 PM
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She gets called a prude I don't believe that any men in the present era are calling women "prudes". Either it is women calling her that or you are making this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:22 PM
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Women are called prudes What, is this 1940? No one actually does this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:57 PM
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"Toxic masculinity" is about as rational and coherent as "The Holy Trinity". There is no consistent meaning, and none of the definitions hold up to the most basic skepticism. It's just a way to voice irrational piss toward men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:42 PM
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they are bored by girls who just listen,smile and look pretty. How can they be bored by something that doesn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:54 PM
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I don’t think she was empowered then either especially if it was out of desperation. Coming from someone who managed strip clubs for many years, it is seldom out of desperation. Most of those women were smart and could have sustained normal jobs. Many of them had college degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:04 PM
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Lots of humans aren't fit to be parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:57 PM
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That just goes to show what a bad pick he was in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:48 PM
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Don't try to take credit where it isn't due.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:35 PM
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Lots of women here in this sub will say openly that they see women in their early 20's as "babies".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:19 PM
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Even if he managed to become mature after the first child, he still wasn't mature enough not to be catastrophically bad on his first child.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:25 PM
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Jumping in here, but I would say that you don't have to tell any specific lies to be engaged in self-deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:00 PM
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You keep contradicting yourself over and over. You can't get sympathy for him being so catastrophically bad and take credit for choosing the right man at the same time. If he had the maturity when his child was born, he wouldn't have been so bad. If he didn't have the maturity, then he wasn't the right man. I do have plenty of childcare experience, which is why it is so obvious that he was completely and totally not ready to have a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:56 PM
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You clearly have never looked after children I have, which is why I know how big a job it is. It would be a really bad idea to have kids with someone who isn't mature enough. he was scared something would happen to her and it be his fault, so he never took her out to give me a break, never watched her himself That's called raging incompetence. You picked wrong. You just picked wrong. This after letting me down in childbirth Again, this is all to some extent your own fault for picking someone who…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:11 PM
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You are talking in circles. If he was a driven and responsible adult, then he wouldn't have been "worse than useless" with your newborn. You just keep contradicting yourself over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:53 AM
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He was driven and very responsible ...and was worse than useless
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:45 AM
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He clearly wasn't very driven or responsible. That doesn't come out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:02 AM
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I have no empathy for the people who chose someone who was a wonderful partner and turned out to be a shit parent People don't become shit parents out of nowhere. Also surveys are a valid source for research if it is a large enough sample size and able to be replicated. They aren't going to tell you much beyond the perceptions of the people being surveyed, and unless they have been legitimately replicated, it's nothing to use to make generalizations. But when it’s meta analysis of hundreds of st…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:02 AM
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Do we hold men responsible when they choose a woman who “leaves because of walk away wife syndrome to take your alimony and fuck Chad?” Who else is going to be responsible? Hence, the warning is given. Life isn’t black and white. And yet red flags are ignored everyday. There is data to suggest even when both people work, women are doing more housework, Sounds like bullshit survey research. But men aren’t prepared to be anything more than a human ATM by their fathers and communities. This is a hy…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:19 AM
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That's silly. It's just another red flag that gets ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:46 AM
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No, they are literally told "find below average men attractive" That's silly. No one is telling them that. That is just an absurd and irrational interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:14 PM
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So this is just weird mind reading?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:21 PM
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No, they are told that their standards are why they are miserable, not that they should have had sex with anyone they didn't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:19 PM
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It's like when women are told to stop complaining about the quality of men when they aren't happy with what their relationships have amounted to. That is very often interpreted as telling them that they should have had sex with other people, when really it is as simple as telling them to stop complaining about problems they made for themselves. No one was trying to solve the women's problems; they were just telling them to shut the fuck up already.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:03 PM
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Nobody is. But men here want to tell women who to have sex with... Is that not a contradiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:01 PM
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Who (specifically) is telling anyone to have sex with anyone they don't want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:55 PM
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This all needs to happen long, long before making children. If a woman chooses to have a child with a childish dirtball of a man, that isn't a reflection on men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:54 PM
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That's usually an irrational interpretation that women make when they are told to stop complaining about the results of their shit relationship choices. No one is telling them that they should have slept with men they weren't attracted to. They are being told to stop blaming men generally for their own bad choices in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:52 PM
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The breakdown is not due to kids. It's due to: 1. Men not pulling their weight to help their partner and kid. 2. Women not communicating their grievances to their partner. Funny there is no mention about simply choosing the wrong partner to have a child with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:49 PM
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It sounds like you just have an imaginary boogie man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:48 PM
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So the women hold no responsibility for choosing the wrong partner to have a child with?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:48 PM
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I almost left my husband when our daughter was 5 months old for this very reason, he had let me down in my moment of need (childbirth) and was worse than useless when she was a newborn Don't you hold any fault here for choosing to have a child with someone who was clearly the wrong person?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:46 PM
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You aren't making any sense. Who (specifically) is telling anyone to have sex with anyone they don't want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:44 PM
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So you are going to cover your ears and stamp your feet while you continue to pretend that it is a problem with men? Shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:27 PM
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I've begun to ponder that one of the greatest horrors and nightmares for men is to realize how little to not at all women think of them. It's the same way women can't handle the idea that people aren't trying to solve their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:24 PM
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It can be comforting for some men to know that the women who made them feel like shit in their younger years are now getting their just desserts. It's more about being irritated with their constant griping about men when their misery is their own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:22 PM
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No one is asking women to pick men they don't actually want, but rather to stop complaining when the men they did pick didn't turn out well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:19 PM
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Can we at least agree that no one is telling women to have sex with anyone they don't want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:13 PM
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As i've said: if only she dated me, i would have committed. That would involve her dating someone she didn't want to. No one is telling her to do that and no one wants that. That is purely your imagination. The point is simply for the women to stop complaining about their own choices and accept responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:09 PM
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I've seen women complain that men aren't committed, that they only pursue sex, that they aren't sure if they want to put a ring on her finger after an 8 year relationship This is a perfect example of what I am talking about. Instead of taking responsibility for their own, shit taste in men, the problem must be with men generally. The fact of the matter is that those women probably had options to date men who would commit to them, but instead they decided to fuck men who weren't interested in com…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:05 PM
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This is all just hysterical projection. Don't try to play Dr. Freud.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:58 PM
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I love how wanting to date someone you’re attracted to No one is telling women to date anyone they aren't attracted to. is considered self indulgent. The "exploring" relationships with dirtbags are self-indulgent, but no one is telling women not to have them. They are telling women to stop complaining about men when all those relationships didn't amount to much. Do YOU want to date someone you’re not attracted to? This is the hysterical projection that we see over and over. No one is telling wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:56 PM
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You are waxing on about the deep, underlying motivations of men when you really just have no idea. The reality is that no one is telling women to have sex with anyone they don't want to or to change their sex life at all. They are telling women to stop blaming men over problems of their own making, and they are warning men that women's behavior and espoused values align far more rarely than young men are told. That's really as deep as it goes. This kind of stuff: that if only those women lowered…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:50 PM
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but to give an analysis of why this phenomenon exist and what is driving it. You are just going with the old "secret nefarious motive" argument as a way of not actually engaging with what they are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:24 PM
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I'll add that some men not only have these bizarre revenge fantasies, but also have a way of thinking that if only those women lowered their standards and if only they wouldn't have been so slutty Deeeeep male psychology.....from a woman. This is some classic women-writing-men bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:22 PM
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most of the problems women constantly blame on men are actually self inflicted by women. But men are always to blame. This is what it is really about, right here. Women tend to assume that someone is trying to fix their problems, when this group is simply telling them to shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:20 PM
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Thanks, Dr. Freud. How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:18 PM
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I think that it is much more about wanting older women to stop complaining when their grief is totally a result of their own, self-indulgent choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:18 PM
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It's is just far more complicated than your black-and-white thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:16 PM
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I dated amazing men but it's extremely obvious what kind of fathers they'd have been. As I said, the fact that you saw them as amazing even though they were too immature to be good fathers says more about your taste in men than it does about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:55 AM
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Because you only see rich men...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:54 AM
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"my baby cries when my husband takes her so I can't shower." Obviously incompetent parents are going to have a more difficult time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:40 PM
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A lot of us grew up with single mothers and we know how incapable men are at being fathers That says a lot more about your taste in men than it does about men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:25 PM
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Just be diplomatic in the way you say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:24 PM
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That she was on birth control, that she was actually single, that she was a rational person, that she was actually into him and not just desperate to get married and have kids, etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:58 PM
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It wouldn't be just about that, would it? It would include any way she mislead him, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:50 PM
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It's manipulation if you lie (for example promise commitment but in fact plan just a hook up) Doesn't this also work in reverse? What about when the woman lies to or misleads the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:01 PM
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Men were literaly selling their dauthers as sex slaves to older men And women were literally going around killing infants. Is this a rational place for a debate to go? Women have no word in the decision, often they saw the husband for the first time at the wedding. The husbands generally didn't have any choice in that situation anyway, and of course you are generalizing based on rich men and completely ignoring the vast majority of very poor men. Women at least usually don't actively hurt men. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:59 PM
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Children don't ruin marriages. Unfit parents ruin their own marriages by choosing to have children for the wrong reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:37 PM
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They already do, just to older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:08 PM
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It's just a thing older people say cuz they remember how young they used to be and they know there's SOOOO much more to learn. I would argue that this is just their particular brand of being childish and condescending toward other adults. I'm surprised you take it so hard I certainly don't get upset every time I see a badly behaved adult, but I also don't feel any inclination to pretend for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:34 AM
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Anyone moving to another country has to do years of studying and preparation to have much hope of doing well there. It's definitely not for everyone, but there are places in this world with a better standard of living than most big US cities and where women react to blue eyes the way that men generally react to perfect tits. If you have the background, financials, and skill set, there's plenty of reward for the risk. It's surreal to be in a place where the women don't hate men generally. If you …
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 07:38 PM
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That user tends to use that technique regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:18 PM
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Okayyy?? So it is disrespectful, bad behavior. Old people call young people young. Nothing about being older requires being childish and disrespectful toward other adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:24 PM
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I'm sure that you are really impressing people right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:04 PM
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Irony is about an outcome that is significantly contradictory to what should be expected. No educated adult would think that a highly educated person never makes spelling errors, particularly online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:02 PM
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That is a very elementary description , and it doesn't even amount to that. Not even close. Nothing about someone being well educated implies that they never make a spelling error. No one who actually had any education would think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:54 PM
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No, that's not actually irony. Nothing significant enough happened. Spelling errors are common and you are just trying to get yourself attention with pedantry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 08:47 PM
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Did you actually read the thread you jumped into? Why would the quality of life of their children be at issue here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 08:46 PM
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Calling them "babies" just means they lack life experience It's a hell of a long way from respecting other adults' choices about their own bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 08:45 PM
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Those don't sound like good family relationships. They sound controlling, manipulative, and devoid of basic boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:27 PM
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So you would hate your SO for the behavior of your childish family?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:02 PM
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Jumping in here, but that isn't actually irony...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:01 PM
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Not that many It's actually very common. and if they do it's not far off. So you also think that 25 year old women are "babies"? That's the issue, right here. We can never have a discussion about adults if you are hellbent on treating adults as children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:46 PM
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And why would the quality of life of their children be at issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:41 PM
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Isn't what is appropriate something to be decided by the adults who would be having the children?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:52 AM
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Who suggested otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:52 AM
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So at what point does a person get to make choices about their own body and expect other adults to mind their business? EDIT Since u/AriesProductions had a meltdown and blocked me, I will respond here: Asked & answered That's the thing. You didn't actually answer. You dodged the central question. Apparently you think that people shouldn't have any decision making over their own body until they are 30. I don’t have to indulge you with a discussion where you ad hominem everything You clearly don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:13 AM
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The old man who clumsily tries to flirt with the teenaged server is a liability and a public embarrassment. That's all most will experience, but plenty of younger women are into older men if they are attractive enough. I remember when women of all ages were all into Patrick Stewart.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:43 AM
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40+ men who deliberately seek out 20something women are definitely going to be judged as creeps What if they want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:42 AM
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Your specious question is in the same vein as “age is just a number” Jumping in here, but that is a really, really weird take. At some point, we have to have control of our own bodies and the right to make decisions as adults. When do you think this will be? when it’s people under 25 when the brain hasn’t finished maturing This was a myth. https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/brain-development-25-year-old-mature-myth.html
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:41 AM
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Lots of women consider 25 year old women "babies"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:40 AM
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it’s highly problematic and has genuine, documented issues. Aren't you projecting your own problems onto other adults' choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:39 AM
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You guys would have had a caniption when women burned their bras. Remember that women were every bit as interested in controlling women as men ever were. Women have always been the enforcers in the churches, and they still provide most of the funding and attendance today.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:38 AM
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but at 25 your brain is more or less fully developed https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/brain-development-25-year-old-mature-myth.html
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:34 AM
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A lot of the time, it is. That's vague. Women do most of the domestic and child raising work in relationships, even when they work full time outside the home. They probably perceive themselves to and answer as much on surveys, anyway. They will also do stupid and unnecessary shit like dressing up in slutty outfits and engaging in sex acts they hate or find uncomfortable or degrading just to try and get their lazy-assed husband interested again. This sounds suspiciously specific. You shouldn't pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:05 PM
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What he said is scientific fact. Ok, what data is he referring to, SPECIFICALLY?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:03 PM
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Honestly this is only a phenomenon we see somewhat recently. Trust me, this was going on decades ago at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:46 PM
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Yes, it is from the 1950s. And we know that psychological research from that era was not just unreliable, it was a complete clown show. Much of it is also extremely difficult to replicate Do you understand that this isn't an excuse act as if it survived replication? The data is easily found, of course, Then link to it instead of being so vague. I provided my definition Which gets us even farther from anything actually justified by data. Why would you say that's highly speculative? You are statin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:03 PM
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”Domestic skills of their predecessors“ = housewife who does all the cooking, cleaning, and childcare I don't think you understand what the word "skill" means. ”They don’t put out like they used to” Could be a reference to the near-universal dead beadroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:01 PM
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Alfred Kinsey's Sexual Behavior In The Human Female. This is from the 1950's, and I don't believe that it has been replicated. That's not adequate to make assertions of fact. they're significantly higher in your 30s than your 20s This would require legitimate data to back up as well, but even if totally true, it wouldn't justify your assertions about a woman's "sexual and youthful prime". And, since we're already discussing something as ambiguous and strange as the concept of "sexual prime" This…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:22 PM
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It's 30s. Your research is clearly the one that needs help. Jumping in here, but what specific research are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:39 PM
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That's just your reflection on a person who wants a woman with a sex drive and the ability to clean up after herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:49 PM
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gender-combativeness and antagonism This is a non-gendered way of describing a very gendered problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:45 PM
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Men say they are looking for a woman who cooks and cleans for them and who is "submissive" Right. The imaginary boogiemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:35 PM
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You need to get out of the country for a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:34 PM
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So no quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:22 PM
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So no quote?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:06 PM
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All it got our grandmothers was stuck in marriages where they were expected to look the other way on cheating and tolerate abuse. That's an unhinged generalization. Sure, but this is not the norm And a dose of data pulled out of your rear. Shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:32 AM
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Yep, this is just another person with a bad experience extrapolating it into a bigoted generalization about men. That seems to be a common theme around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:31 AM
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What did I actually say that was bigoted? Please quote my text and not your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:25 AM
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That's a completely random and unhinged thing to blurt out. I absolutely agree. At least we agree on something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:17 AM
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That's a completely random and unhinged thing to blurt out. I absolutely agree. At least we agree on something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:17 AM
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Sounds like more bigotry that paints men as the bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:16 AM
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Nothing about marriage stops a piece of shit from being a piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:45 AM
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What you are saying is obvious bigotry. You tried several weird misinterpretations of what I said, then just started spraying bigoted piss. It's not the first time I've seen you do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:11 AM
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I think that plenty of people are wildly irresponsible about their relationships and childcare generally. They are going to be trash people both before and after they get divorced. This has nothing to do with the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:03 AM
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How so? I’m just adding more colorful language to your post. No, you are just ranting nonsensically and spraying bigoted piss.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:59 AM
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Again, stop projecting your own baggage onto the scenario. Nothing about divorce is inherently dangerous to a child. If the parents are pieces of shit, and bring molesters into the house, you can't blame that on divorce. Nothing is stopping people from being good co-parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:59 AM
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You just aren't making any sense at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:51 AM
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Men are just helpless victims who deserve sex no matter how little they contribute to a relationship That's a completely random and unhinged thing to blurt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:48 AM
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Of course your bigotry is someone else's fault. It always is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:20 AM
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So men have zero power in a relationship? No one said that either. You keep flying back and forth between extremes that have nothing to do with what I said. Yet they are infallible? This is even more unhinged. You imagined all of this. You see how men can fuck up relationships and end up in a dead headroom? Anyone can fuck up a relationship. By being this dense and ignorant of their own actions. Why would you assume that men are any more dense or ignorant than women? They distance themselves out…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:19 AM
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That's exactly what racists say when they get called out for their bigotry. "It's a joke!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:09 AM
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So, Daddy's penis is the most important factor, eh? That is such a weird, weird take. You seriously have some problems. And kids sure do pick up a lot ...sometimes from Mommy's new boyfriend, or Daddy's new girlfriend's kids who were molested by her previous paramour. Ok, that is beyond suspiciously specific. You need to stop projecting your own baggage onto this scenario. Obviously, a healthy sex life is important, and a lack of a sex life is a perfectly reasonable basis on which to end a marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:52 PM
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I'm talking about your "man math" comment. It's just classic, bigoted, feminist bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:43 PM
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If they can be professional in their co-parenting, why not do it under the same roof If the bedroom is dead, so is the relationship. It doesn't help your kids to live needlessly in misery when you still have blood pumping through your veins. Besides, kids pick up on a lot and you wouldn't want them to wind up in a similar situation. Those kids will be grown before you know it. Life is too short to be tossing away decades like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:40 PM
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So some of 'em are alright?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:38 PM
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I think the obvious rule of decency is that if you are in a partnership, you make sure that you put in at least equal effort That's not the kind of rule you were talking about, though. You need some kind of rule about how to weight different types of work. Obviously someone working a physically demanding job or a frightening job is going to be more exhausted than someone working in a library. I had to dig a trench in 95 degree heat and 85 percent humidity, and after about 4 hours of that, I fell…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:49 PM
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The point is that the man can't clean or woo his way out of this, and you can't necessarily fix hormone issues or just give up medication.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:29 PM
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Go do a Google search In other words, you don't actually have any data to back up your claims. Link directly to the data or just STFU.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:27 PM
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That’s what your question is. Not in reality. Somehow the man is infallible, the wife is at fault, and the husband is somehow free of fault. That is a totally unhinged interpretation of what I actually said. How can a husband and father be free of fault in a situation they have power over. What power? You’re not gonna try to pick up some slack and do better for your child? That also assumes that the man is necessarily doing something wrong, and that the problem is all his fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:27 PM
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Probably because the reasons for lack of desire for sex are different. Even so, the advice given to men is terrible. For women it's resenting their husbands for usually a litany of reasons usually involving laziness... Again, those perceptions aren't reliable. They've identified there is a fundamental mismatch on the amount of sex each party would like in general. And there are many, many factors that can affect this. I guess what I'm saying is this subject is pretty nuanced and it kind of feels…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:25 PM
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super substantiated scientifically. Ok, be specific. What data are you talking about here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:11 PM
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You literally are placing all the blame on the mother and somehow the father is exempt of any fault. That is something that you imagined.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:10 PM
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i am aware we as humans are not perfect. No one was suggesting otherwise. We all have periods of time when we are not at our best, we feel down, etc. I am not the type to go "uh oh, first pink flag, BREAK UP!!" Who you marry is an extremely important decision, and you can't be surprised when people don't change for the better. i don't know why you would feel the need to bring someone down from the sense of achievement they feel I'm pointing out that your story was self-contradictory. That's rele…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:09 PM
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Sure, there could be some cases that are an exception to the rule about counting work hours equally How did you decide what "the rule" is? In the end, perception is reality here. If perceptions are inaccurate, that just makes my point all the more. There is enough anecdotal evidence about the 'second shift' Again, that's not going to be reliable. It does seem likely to me that if there is an imbalance, it is usually the woman doing more. Based on what? If the man does more it is probably due to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:59 PM
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So you're not even going to try to do a fair amount of domestic chores like a normal partner? That isn't a rational conclusion to make from anything I said. Why would you assume that it is all the man's fault in the first place? and women often end up doing the brunt of the work Those perceptions aren't consistently reliable. I'm assuming in this scenario the hypothetical husband wasn't even helping much in the first place That assumption says a lot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:55 PM
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I think children are far less concerned over whether Mommy is keeping Daddy's penis happy This is some truly deranged thinking to even bring this up. Obviously children should not be involved in their parents' sex life. than they are with the possibility of changing schools and losing all of their friends It's definitely not good for kids to be stuck in between a bad marriage. If the parents are professional about their co-parenting, the kids will be better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:53 PM
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Wow, another assumption that it must be all the man's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:52 PM
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Sounds like wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:50 PM
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This is so “doomed loner Redditor” bullshit. Did you miss the part about "the best thing for everyone is to end the relationship and move on, having learned from the last relationship." Worse can scenario, a man loses his job, falls into depression and gets addicted to WOW and wife loses all interest. Why would you assume it was the man's fault and the woman was being reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:49 PM
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Why would you assume that it's the man's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:45 PM
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Ah, the old, "It must be the man's fault". Classic feminist bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:44 PM
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Are we going to pretend deadbedrooms only affect men? No, but the advice given to men is very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:43 PM
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The modern man wants to resent the family. From misusing terminology to an irrational, bigoted generalization. Very impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:49 AM
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Just follow the thread you linked and read what I already said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:33 AM
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I appreciate you sharing all of this, but you are kind of exemplifying some of what I was talking about in the OP in terms of laying more responsibility on him, despite the language about it being a two way street. From my vantage point, it sounds like you ignored some serious red flags for the relationship even before you got married. As for this: regardless of how his body changed, his looks, height, hair, abhorrent snoring, disgusting little habits Don't you think he had a list of similar thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:26 AM
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That means that in whatever situation you are in, you need to be putting in equal effort in life and for the family. Period. People often perceive themselves to be doing a greater share of a team's workload than they actually are. Teamwork perception bias is a frequent topic in management classes. If you are both working 40 hours a week at work, all household chores should be divided equally overall, even if you have different domains That really depends on the type of work being done. If one pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:08 AM
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Again, you weren't making any sense right from the outset. If you would like to try to write something more coherent, as I said before, I will respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:00 AM
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This is really basic to be asking for, but if you insist. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-007-9242-8 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1745506518762664
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:59 AM
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That's not the case in other places in Latin America. Try Buenos Aires.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:54 AM
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You weren't making any sense. You tried to use the same "pop science crap" language to describe my post, but of course, that was completely irrational. If you want to try again, I will respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:41 AM
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and that’s what causes the relationship to die. I don't buy this in the first place. And are women expected to be romantic to keep the man's interest? How can a woman have energy to for sex when after work they have to do house chores and cook? People with a heavy workload often perceive themselves to be doing a greater share of it than they really are. It's called teamwork perception bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:37 AM
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I hit a nerve for saying you were being dismissive You imagined this. written by a woman with a PhD who is a sex researcher Lots of PhDs write saucy popular books that don't have much in the way of scientific rigor. how is that “pop-science crap” if she’s an actual legit researcher? Because it is not a legitimate source for claims of fact. It's just entertainment. The way to source claims is to cite the data directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:29 AM
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I love how men take themselves out of relationships and blame everything on women. You aren't making any sense. This is a scenario where the woman resents the man. I never suggested that only the wife wanted kids, but women are very often the ones in a hurry to have kids. submissive stay at home wife Now this is just hysterical. You imagined this entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:27 AM
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Funny how you lay this all on men and not at all on women. My comment wasn't gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:25 AM
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Living with parents in a shit, dead-end relationship is also bad for the kids. Cooperative divorce and professional co-parenting is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:25 AM
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It's not good for them to be stuck between miserable, trapped parents. They are better off if both parents work together help each other move on and to co-parent professionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:24 AM
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it's science Sorry, you just didn't understand how to interpret what you were reading. The authors make it abundantly clear that their conclusions are purely speculative. EDIT: u/-25T chose to take the coward's way out and blocked me, so I will respond here: Just head on over to scholar.google.com and pull up the many dozens more related to loss of desire after beginning caretaking for your spouse. You didn't understand the first one you linked, so there is no reason to think that you would be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:23 AM
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I did make an argument in my own words I was talking about the user who referred us to the popular reading book. That's who I said it to. you are not addressing it. You aren't making any sense. I didn't make any biological claims beyond those about sex drive reducing with age and antidepressants. Do you seriously need me to link you data for those?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:18 AM
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I didn’t read the book, but it doesn’t seem to claim it is based on science The user made multiple biological claims of fact and attributed them to the book. I am not the one being obtuse here. Dismissing that book simply because it “came off the shelf of Barnes and Noble” It should be dismissed as a source for biological claims. But they’re on the same level - opinions and philosophising based on anecdotes and personal experience No, the book is making claims about biology. Read the user's comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:04 AM
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There are lots of factors that a man just can't do anything to prevent, let alone turn around. That's why we shouldn't be telling them to try to clean their way out of this situation. The best thing will generally be to work on an amicable divorce, professional co-parenting, etc. so that they can both learn from their mistakes and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:54 AM
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Or it could literally be his lack of effort like I said. No one is going to clean or woo their way out of a dead bedroom. That's just not realistic. Christ do you need to rationalize everything? You don't appear to understand what that term means.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:47 AM
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You aren't making any sense. People under a heavy workload often perceive themselves to be doing a greater share than they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:40 AM
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Or it could be just laying blame on him for something that's out of either of their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:39 AM
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He said ignoring your wife and leaving her all the work would be a you problem. Right, assuming that is what is really happening and not an issue of perception or laying blame. You replied that she should have known that’s what marriage would be like!! Because people often feel like they are doing a greater share of the work than they actually are. When you have a job that big, it can seem like you are doing 75% when you are only doing 50%, especially when you are unprepared and inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:36 AM
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The only biological claims I made were about the impact of antidepressants and natural loss of libido. Do you really need me to link that data for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:24 AM
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Yes, medical conditions like menopause will fuck with libido and sex drive. Women frequently start to lose their sex drive well before menopause. Welcome to being in a relationship with a woman. That's why we shouldn't tell men that they can clean or woo their way back to a lively bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:23 AM
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Of course you lay all the blame on the man. Plenty of women want to get married, then become pissed in life when faced with the realities of marriage and parenthood. Nothing he can do could stop that train, let alone turn it around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:22 AM
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How is her “pop science crap” any different from your anecdotal “pop science crap”? You have no idea what these terms mean. I wasn't holding myself out to be making scientific claims. If you are going to do that, link directly to the data or expect criticism. Some stupid book off the shelf at Barnes and Noble is definitely fair to call pop-science crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:20 AM
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I LOVE how you're out in the comments poo-pooing things for being "pop science crap" That user was attempting to cite research to back up specific, scientific claims of fact. I made it quite clear that I am expressing opinion. And citing some stupid book is definitely fair to call pop-science crap. If they were willing to link directly to legitimate data, or even just express opinion, I would have more respect for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:19 AM
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to prevent loss of attraction to begin with I think that isn't realistic. So many things will cause her to lose attraction that he can't do anything about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:17 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:15 AM
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You're talking about a rare side effect. Low libido is more frequent but zero libido is tremendously rare Low libido is enough to kill a bedroom, and women (generally) have a much more rapidly declining sex drive just due to age.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:46 PM
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In any case, the power sits in the hands of the one who cares the least. When it comes to sex, that is generally the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:44 PM
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but even so what the fuck do you want, your partner to die over a medical condition so you can get your rocks off? Not at all. My point is to just be reasonable. If her antidepressants make her basically asexual, and the popularity of those are soaring higher and higher, no amount of maintenance is going to change anything. Be honest and be professional about co-parenting, divorce, etc. and try to make life easier for each other as you move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:43 PM
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If your wife doesn't want to have sex with you because you ignored her and made her do all the work, that's a you problem, bud. And if she wanted to get married and have children without knowing what that was going to be like, Bud can't do anything to change the course of events.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:40 PM
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I defer to my book reference Again, this is pop-science crap. If you want to make an actual reference, refer directly to the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:39 PM
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That all assumes that she had realistic expectations about marriage and parenthood in the first place. In many cases, there's simply nothing that the man could do to keep it going in the face of the realities, either before or after the bedroom dies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:36 PM
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If you don't maintain your marriage (or relationship) then it dies. For a lot of people, no amount of maintenance is going to stop that train. Parenthood and marriage is a very hard road, and lots of people get married and have kids knowing very little about the realities of either. Then there are also the physical issues and issues related to medications, particularly antidepressants.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:34 PM
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Sounds like someone is incapable of understanding a joke. That's how this kind of toxic piss is often packaged.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 09:59 PM
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I'm not much into pop-science crap. Please make your argument in your own words and be specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:55 PM
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The majority of my devout Christian friends who actively prioritize starting a family have no issues with dating But then you are stuck with those idiots who believe in magic and pretend to drink Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:47 PM
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It was like seeing color for the first time. Even just the food will have this effect. Coming back to the US and ordering off of Uber Eats as a sad, sad experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:45 PM
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the types of people who will move abroad tend to be more social, tend to be doing it for work, and probably wouldn't have issues dating at home either. This leaves out the stark difference in dating in the US as opposed to other countries. It's basically a night and day different. They don't have the hostility toward men that American women consistently do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:44 PM
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I’d argue most women don’t marry men they are actually sexually attracted to to the point that will sustain a decades long marriage. All the more reason not to tell men to try to "woo" or clean their way out of this situation. When it's done, it's done.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:42 PM
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I treat my family members with all the respect they deserve. Sounds like weasel language to me.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 09:40 PM
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I hope you learn how to treat your family members with a little bit of respect.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 09:21 PM
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It's obvious malice. It sure as hell isn't respect, and it sure as hell is causing pain for titillation. Only pieces of shit do that.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 09:00 PM
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No one starts being attracted to a man because he starts cleaning. It's just not going to happen. The bedroom is clearly dead and there's no such thing as reviving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:59 PM
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And are aware that this doesn't justify your claim about men in the slightest?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:58 PM
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Again, according to his account, these are pieces of shit. If you think he's lying, congratulations on being able to read minds.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 06:05 PM
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By the account OP gave, these are pieces of shit.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 06:04 PM
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They are jerking themselves off by causing pain.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 04:52 PM
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Going off of his account, these are disrespectful pieces of shit.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 04:52 PM
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Lmfao gaslighting Yes. Exactly. Putting on a happy face isn't going to help this guy. Just be honest.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 03:25 PM
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No, but the predominant culture among American women is trash right now. The world is full of amazing women.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 03:14 PM
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I just don't gaslight people who are understandably having a hard time.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 03:13 PM
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It's a very common thing that pieces if shit do.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 03:12 PM
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That's not an interaction without malice. What OP described is quite malicious.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 03:12 PM
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I get it. You like happy talk.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:41 PM
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So they jerk themselves off by causing more pain?
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:34 PM
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That's what this story is about.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:33 PM
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I don't see how encouraging him to pretend helps at all.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:33 PM
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Your family are just being supportive. Sure, in a narcissistic kind of way that involves titillating themselves by causing pain.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:20 PM
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Thanks, Dr. Freud, but the culture is absolutely brutal to short guys right now.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:20 PM
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They sure as hell don't respect him. You can't care about someone and treat them like shit.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:19 PM
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Why don't you respond to what I actually said? Either you didn't read the Springer link or don't have the background to understand what you were reading. It doesn't back up what you claimed in the slightest, and the rest are just stupid tabloids and blogs. Link directly to the relevant data or just stay quiet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:13 PM
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She is saying that. No, she is constructing a narrative where she can string him along. Her sex drive gone for him Right. because she feels resentment towards him for not pulling his weight Bullshit. There are many reasons why she would lose her sex drive for him or just altogether, but cleaning isn't one of them. There's no bringing back anyone's sex drive by cleaning. She probably just resents being married and certainly got married to the wrong person and for the wrong reasons. It’s hard to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:11 PM
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No, it’s based on what I’ve heard from every single woman I know That's called "anecdata" https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13524-018-0647-x This doesn't actually speak to your claim that the men are contributing less work toward the household and income. https://www.forbes.com/advis These are tabloid articles aimed at getting women riled up over surveys that lack the scientific rigor to make any such claim. Link directly to the data that supposedly backs up your claims or just stay qui…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:26 AM
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I think you are discounting the impacts of antidepressants and other psychiatric meds.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:21 AM
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He’s doing a bit more and thinking he gets tokens to the sex machine he views his wife as That's ridiculous. He is doing what she asked. I think the problem is that she doesn't want to say that her sex drive is just gone, at least for him, because she knows he will leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:06 AM
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A lot of women are hesitant to admit that their antidepressants have made them asexual, so they find a reason to blame the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:04 AM
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If there is a problem in their sex life, he absolutely has a right to bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:02 AM
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Again, you can't project your own way of viewing the world onto others.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:58 PM
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The point is that the story is unsubstantiated and not an adequate basis to make claims of fact about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:57 PM
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https://www.simplypsychology.org/narcissistic-projection.html
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:38 PM
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Again, this type of purely utilitarian thinking is not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:32 PM
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They are not purely transactional unless you have a cluster b disorder. Then everything is purely transactional and it is hard to understand how it is not for others. Before you edited your comment, you admitted that you chose this way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:25 PM
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Again, this purely utilitarian mindset is typical of people with cluster b personality disorders, and they often have a hard time understanding that not everyone thinks like them. It's projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:41 PM
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There's data to support the significance of the financial element. All of the stuff about men being childish is just pulled from the butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:21 AM
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People divorce for all kinds of reasons, mostly financial. That whole generalization about men being childish is just hysterical internet fare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:25 AM
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In 1982, Angela Cavallo lifted a 1964 Chevy Impala off her teenage son https://yeahmotor.com/cars/chevy-impala-lift/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:23 AM
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Generalizations about men as children, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:30 AM
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It's a common mantra in feminist spaces, but that doesn't mean it has any basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:27 AM
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Romance is easy; sex is hard I would argue that its the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:26 AM
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Again, these are all personal musings and speculation. You shouldn't try to state those as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:12 PM
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That’s not an argument. It's a criticism of you. Because I’d have to assume that would imply that you think men and women love the exact same. That's not a rational assumption. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:44 PM
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I disagree with your making generalizations that you pulled out of your butt or read on some stupid blog and regurgitated. Just don't voice your personal musings as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:40 PM
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That's called pulling data out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:36 PM
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When in reality our love and mating strategies are very adversarial. According to speculative, pop-science bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:23 PM
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That’s possible, always. It's safe to assume when someone is making grandiose generalizations based on their personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:58 PM
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I think its a combination of narcissism or psychopathy and heavy use of psychiatric drugs that have a dulling effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:57 PM
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If we’re transactional, so are you Sounds like a narcissist's view of the world. This is usually the result of a combination of childhood abuse and abandonment. Not everyone has that going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:55 PM
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But not just sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:54 PM
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Confirmation bias. You seek out and remember things that validate the view you want to hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:11 AM
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She sees herself as having enough money. That was a big part of her reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:10 AM
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Note that she’s not out looking for a rich guy, either. Because she has money. She addresses this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:41 AM
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Are you personally asexual? That was my first thought reading this. We get a lot of women on this sub projecting their own feelings as generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:39 AM
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frankly that’s what a lot of grown men are these days. That says more about your background and taste in men than anything about men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:36 AM
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It's women who think they can live free and reckless when they are young with the mentality that they can just settle down and start a family in their 30s. In fairness, this is learned. I remember my feminist teachers preaching this very message.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:32 AM
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How do you think a woman has the superhuman strength to lift a car That's an urban legend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:30 AM
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Don't project. Lots of men are legitimately romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:22 AM
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Men love women. The same is not true in reverse. You are describing something that is particular to our culture. Go to Latin America and you will see women who love men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:21 AM
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Most men would. More data pulled from the butt...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:10 AM
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So sorry I stated an opinion you simply cannot handle. That's silly. All I am saying is that everyone holds responsibility for whom they choose, and that their choices are more a reflection of them than of an entire gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:06 AM
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Just about all men who aren't in the top 5 percent are somewhat lazy and childish and they become more so every year they live. According to the data you just pulled out of your butt. This is just bigoted nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:05 AM
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If someone chooses to sleep with men before vetting them, then that is their choice as well. Likewise, the negative experiences that inevitably follow that behavior reflect those choices and the person making them more than they reflect the billions of men walking the earth. I guess now any woman you went on one date with who turned out to not be good is on you...so pick better too man!!! Do you see me generalizing about women over my experiences with individuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:33 AM
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Yet men do that The men you chose did that. This is a huge distinction. Your personal taste in men doesn't reflect the billions of men walking the earth. It reflects what you brought to the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:24 AM
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It's pretty much why 50 percent of the failed marriages among my friends have happened and all the women who gave up men permanently were from that group. It leaves a permanent sour taste. Isn't that your own fault, though? If someone marries someone lazy and childish, don't they bear responsibility for choosing that person, failing to vet them, etc? I really can't see how it can be reliably avoided because all dudes seem to have some of the dynamic Again, this sort of thing says a lot more abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:14 AM
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That's still a generalization that isn't justified by your experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:05 AM
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I was raised in an abusive household which left me with PTSD and borderline personality disorder. My point exactly. These experiences don't reflect men generally, but your personal situation, trauma, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:02 AM
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If someone smells shit everywhere they go, it's time for them to check their own shoes. We are all responsible for the partners we choose, and a woman having shit taste and poor relationship skills doesn't justify maligning men generally. EDIT: user begayallday freaked out about something I didn't actually say and blocked me, so I will post my response here: I’m sorry, but how exactly was I responsible for my own childhood abuse? This is a completely irrational interpretation of what I actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:01 AM
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That just…highlights men as the common, troubling variable Either that or their own shit taste in men, bad relationship skills, failure to wait to figure out who a person is before fucking them, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:58 AM
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Some of these men when they described the past women who apparently cause them issues now, I thought to myself "why did you choose them to date?" Said without irony. Doesn't that apply to you as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:58 AM
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in what part of that singular situation would she need to take accountability. Having shitty taste in men, failing to vet before having sex, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:57 AM
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That’s actually a reflection of our behavior as men, not on a woman’s behavior for knowing more about us … No, that's a reflection of their taste in men, not of the behavior of men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:54 AM
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if I know that i need to enforce boundaries about household chores If you are dating lazy, immature men who don't carry their weight of their own volition, that also says a lot more about you and your taste in men than it does about the billions of people walking around with a pair of testicles.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:53 AM
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Exactly. As I was saying before, these experiences say a lot more about you, your culture, your upbringing, etc, than they do about men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:51 AM
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Doesn't some of that responsibility fall on you for having poor taste, failing to vet your partners, etc? Your experience with your personal relationships is much more a reflection of you than of men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:50 AM
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Not all experience is the same, and greater quantity seldom equals greater quality when it comes to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:49 AM
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It takes marriage to a lazy man who stonewalls in arguments Suspiciously specific. Are you sure you aren't just projecting your own failings on others? After all, you chose the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:48 AM
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We all have eyes and ears, this community does not exist in some airproof vacuum where only you can teach us what the red pill is "really" all about. Who specifically is saying what you claim? This all might just be confirmation bias and frequency illusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:51 AM
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She's kind of weird looking and her style of dress screams mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:35 AM
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No, that's what the discussion already was. If you want to argue against criticism generally, it doesn't make any sense to do so here, or even in this sub. That's like saying that no one should argue about anything ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:28 AM
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I don't know why you would bring that up here. It is really irrelevant to the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:15 AM
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Most debates involve some sort of criticism. Are you aware that you are in a debate sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:03 AM
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I'm sure you can find some extreme fringe women and men saying some wild shit, probably to get a reaction. Until there is some reason to believe that this is somehow pervasive, it's fair to call an unsubstantiated claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:32 PM
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Everyone treats anything as they please. This isn't really a response to what the user said. They are criticizing the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:18 PM
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Maybe just admit that this is in your imagination?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:00 PM
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Who are you talking about, specifically? What exactly are they actually saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:51 PM
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Hmmm, why though? Because it would be totally irrational to do so. There are so many who openly say that they want to control women. Assuming that is true, then criticize them specifically. There are so many here. Who are you talking about, specifically? What exactly are they actually saying? Even if it were true, that they are not the majority of voters….it’s still what they vote for. The point is that even more women vote for that crap. This is why it is so irrational to have hostility toward …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:54 PM
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So men are responsible for their decisions and political work…..so why would it be irrational then to be hostile against them for that? Again, it is fine to hold individuals responsible, but it is irrational to have hostility toward men generally for the behavior of a group that is mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:27 PM
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Without Republicans, this wouldn’t have happened Without (mostly female) Catholics and other religious voters, this wouldn't have ever happened. Links in a chain. Pro-lifers are definitely not limited to Republicans.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:20 PM
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I never said that there are no men that bear responsibility, just that the hostility toward men is irrational because the responsible people are mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:50 PM
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Catholics? In this case, yes. Evangelicals were really the ones that spearheaded the whole thing. No, Catholics have been much more consistent and organized on this issue. Besides, the attendees of both branches are mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:49 PM
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No, it's objectively irrational to blame the wrong people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:32 PM
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the men in political positions drive this and sorry to tell you, that’s their fault. Again, they are voted in to serve by an electorate that is mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:18 PM
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Once again, men who have political power and vote on this are responsible The majority-female electorate that puts them in power is responsible, as is the majority-female audience that supports the churches. if they would have any morality, they wouldn’t do this. The majority of voters and church attendees are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:15 PM
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Let’s say women are blaming all the wrong people… and? That's the basis of the criticism. Men never do? https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/es/tu-quoque The fact is, an emotion is just that. The whole point of the criticism is that the general hostility toward men about this is irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:13 PM
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I think you replied to the wrong comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:20 AM
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You sincerely say Rachel Maddows is responsible No, that's silly. I said that she actually supports this horrible organization. That doesn't make her singularly responsible, but it does make her more responsible than the majority of men. Once again, blaming men generally for attitudes held mostly by women is irrational. Wouldn't you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:16 AM
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So you just ignore your own article? What specifically did I ignore? You seem desperate to blame men for the work of an organization that is mostly supported by women. Women can’t be clergy. Clergy wouldn't exist in this country without the majority female attendees. And 60% to 47 % is not men are hardly going Less than half of them are going, and that was several years ago. plus this seems to be across religions and not Catholicism. Seems to be? You only read the one article I linked. And a les…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:57 AM
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That’s not the point, is it? It's the point of what I said. Are you doing that ridiculous feminist mind reading now, where you have to imagine some ulterior motive that has nothing to do with what I actually said? But if you want to talk about that…..do you have any sources for your claims? How about the five Catholics that actually changed the law? Or was it the thing about Rachel Maddow being a Catholic that you doubt? like the new speaker of the house He's not even Catholic. What criticism he…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:36 AM
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Ok, if you want to play dumb…. Right back at you. Actually respond to what I said about Catholicism being the cause of the reduction in rights, and women's role in Catholicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:24 AM
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If he is, then what you're describing is a form of sex tourism. No, that's silly. "Sex tourism" involves travelling to other countries to hire prostitutes.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 07:22 AM
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respond to the specific points
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:17 AM
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Try reading what I actually said and respond to the specific points.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:01 AM
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I think things like the rise of right wing nationalism/abortion restrictions/etc. play a role, honestly. This is primarily thanks to Catholicism. Women are angry and some are basically popping off about it. But Catholicism in the US is mainly entertainment for older women (and Rachel Maddow). Not many men attend anymore, and donations are largely driven by the older women who attend. In some senses, as a man, I’d rather women rip us a new asshole than pretend to be happy all the time and abandon…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:41 AM
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about women being too picky Nah, it's about hypocrisy. No one is complaining about attractive and cultured women being picky. It's about warped views, an inclination toward destructive relationships, and the blame toward men that always follows.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:40 AM
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I would rather have none of those considerations or compliments than have the fake ones that so many women offer each other. At least when I have a friend, I know he is actually my friend and doesn't secretly want to destroy me. If he and I don't get along, we stop spending time together.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 04:06 AM
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Isn't that what you just said?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:23 AM
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But we can agree that desirable men are definitely not chasing you at your age, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:20 AM
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So just to be clear, they are not desirable men that are chasing after you at 40, and I would guess that the attractive ones are only interested in a MILF experience, and the ones who want an LTR aren't. That's an important distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:55 PM
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No, men offer everything that women do. That's just silly. Young women have beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:51 PM
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It only takes one psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:24 PM
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Young men who can't get laid feel helpless and hopeless in the face of women who are in their primes, in terms of physical beauty. That's because they have to compete with everyone at a time when they have little to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:23 PM
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I'm 41. They're sooo wrong 😅 I have men lined up Then why are so many women constantly bitching that they can't find any good men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:22 PM
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No one is telling you to be with anyone you don't want to. The message is not to complain when you wind up where you put yourself. If you want to do the cat lady thing, no one is trying to stop you. The problem is that the cat ladies tend to blame their misery on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:20 PM
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5'5"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:08 PM
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In years past, and in the country I live in now, that would be correct. Here I can ask almost any woman to dance, and in most cases, she will say yes. In the US, in recent history, there is a religious fervor going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:04 PM
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You won't get charged criminally for that, but you can definitely get kicked out of your university, fired from your job, banned from various properties, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:19 AM
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That's called "lying by omission".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 05:18 PM
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She weighed 140 at her peak fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:34 PM
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No one is saying that you are obligated to. Just stop pretending that anyone is telling you to have sex with anyone you don't want to. They aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:29 PM
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I don’t need to make my partner say the truth This isn't about your partner saying the truth, it's about your lying. If you are settling, he should know that and decide whether he wants to be a part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:28 PM
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most men are still too emotionally stunted or focused on their own needs to provide the same level of emotional support and care women provide them continuously without getting any of it back. This is just an unhinged LARP. This says a whole lot more about your own psyche than it does anything about men. General consensus is that a good vibrator and clit sucker can give us much better orgasm than any man can You have trouble connecting with people, right? Have you considered that you might be on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:14 AM
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I don't see anyone telling anyone to have sex they don't want to have. there. If you don't like what they have to say, go ahead and criticize what they are saying. That's what men are doing when they tell you to shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with you finding someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:46 AM
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So this serves as a license to lie to men? That's just unhinged. Plenty of men actually want to be in a particular relationship and don't consider themselves to be settling. Anyone who deceives someone into a relationship is just trash raised by trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:45 AM
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Men are used to it. We are raised on "shut the fuck up".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:54 AM
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If the man knows that you are settling, then it isn't deceiving him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:54 AM
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There's no excuse for deceiving yourself into a relationship. Anyone who does that is just a total piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:50 AM
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You are just being told to stop whining and shut the fuck up. Anything you perceive beyond that is just your main character syndrome. No one cares if you die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:49 AM
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The men at the lower end generally can't even get a date these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:40 AM
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MEn were attracted to most thinner, slimmer, blonde women. Women like Marilyn Monroe or Pamela Anderson were the embodiment of the most attractive women ever. Marilyn Monroe was plus sized.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:38 AM
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I think that everyone owes everyone honesty. If a woman is settling for a provider, then she should be up-front about that with them and see if they really want to be part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:35 AM
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No one is telling you to have sex with anyone you don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:32 AM
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As long as you are up-front about that with your partner, I don't see the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:32 AM
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This happens at every "level" you want to try to establish through some objective measure. Right. The "objective measure" you just pulled out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:31 AM
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but to stop whining This is what the hypocritical women just can't accept. They have to believe that you have some plan for them, when really the plan stops at telling them to shut the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:30 AM
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What is the solution What gives you the impression that anyone is suggesting one? It seems like every time women are criticized, they have to project some life advice into the criticism. Date someone you are not attracted to? I don't see anyone suggesting this. don't get it. That's the main character syndrome. It's not like you can force attraction. What do you think happens to the fat basement dweller who thinks he deserves a supermodel and says so? He gets criticized. Does that mean anyone wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:28 AM
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Except this study didn't actually say this, so why should we believe that any others do?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:05 AM
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Trough history, men always had the upper hand in dating. You mean a very small number of wealthy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:57 AM
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Research shows Probably more bullshit pseudoscience from the gender studies departments.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:56 AM
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because toxic masculinity Ah, that irrational nonsense again? It's nothing but a vague gender slur that anyone can use to mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:55 AM
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Well, it's a bit of spiritual faith, a bit of law of attraction In other words, horseshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:54 AM
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Why do you suppose she would go to the trouble?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:06 PM
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Things are very different in Latin America.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:00 PM
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Well, when men are brought to tears by that self-indulgent windbag Jordan Peterson, because he's the first time they ever heard anyone actually give a fuck about what they are going through, we shouldn't be all that surprised.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 01:08 AM
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Is it thinking with their dick if it just never occurred to them to look for support from a relationship?
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 05:27 PM
10

Heartbreaking on so many levels.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 04:17 AM
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Are you back to the imagined threat?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 03:28 AM
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Little butts / big butts or super skinny / thicc thighs have been styles that changed and you absolutely see more men into the current popular style. Much more so for women. Look at mens media throughout the last hundred years, and curvy figures (tits and ass) are universal, as are the presence of a variety of body types. During the 80's, when the skinny fashion was arguably at its peak, every Playboy always had women with tits and ass, even when they also had thinner women. The whole skinny con…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:09 PM
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The difference you are missing is that the man's attraction is personal and direct, whereas the woman's is filtered through her community. That means that as different types of men fall in and out of vogue, or the popularity of a certain man, her attraction will fluctuate accordingly. Men don't give a fuck about what kind of woman is in style or how attractive the community thinks she is at that moment as long as they find them attractive directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:56 PM
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So go ahead and criticize them. That's the beauty of free speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:24 PM
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What you said doesn't make any sense in relation to the comment before.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:14 AM
1

nothing raises men’s hackles more than women who dare even speak of sex and sexuality This is just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:38 AM
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No one is solving any problems in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:36 AM
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You don't seem to be talking in a coherent train of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:35 AM
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I and most women think our right to not fuck people we don’t want to fuck is very important Did you read the OP at all? No one is suggesting otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:55 PM
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The history of humanity indicates that it is not our imagination. Back to the projection. it is completely irrational to project some deeper hidden meaning onto every criticism anyone wants to make. Just because you think that this is an important topic to discuss doesn't mean the next person does. Look at the example of the hypocritical fat guy again. This is all much more simple than you are bent on making it. Just because someone tells someone else to shut the fuck up doesn't mean that they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:53 PM
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Did I say that it does matter? Take another look at the fat guy example. This is much more simple than you are trying to make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:50 PM
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And certain folks love imagining themselves being threatened.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:16 PM
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so in that sense they basically are saying No, that's just what you imagine that they actually mean underneath what they are actually saying. That's an important distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:00 PM
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Again, you are imagining things. That's the point of the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:33 AM
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If you read carefully, that is what isn't happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:27 AM
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That is the exact point your OP addresses. I didn't mention anything about solutions. You imagined that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:16 AM
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You're literally in a sub that posts about it multiple times a day, every day. (Has to reach back 7 years to find one post with 2 upvotes and everyone in the comments disagreeing)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:35 AM
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What am I supposed to think? Everyone who actually went to the trouble to link a comment turned out to be full of shit about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:35 AM
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You still aren't talking about anything that has anything to do with the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:30 AM
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You're literally in a sub that posts about it multiple times a day, every day. Show me someone ins this sub arguing that women should be forced to have sex. I think this is in your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:51 AM
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Ok, so if it becomes a problem, how shall it be solved? That's a different discussion entirely. Go ahead and make your own OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:50 AM
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I’m just saying if you want women to lower themselves to you Did you miss the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:49 AM
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I'm sure that you imagine that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:29 AM
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On a personal level, it isn't. If a whole society stops having sex, obviously that will be a problem at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:51 PM
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Still would be a man. I like the freedom to have my own opinion.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 08:54 PM
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If it happens every couple days, you shouldn't have any problem finding an example that actually says this in a way that doesn't require speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:52 PM
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Kind of like a warning to smokers, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:50 PM
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Well that doesn't help us much. Every time someone actually links to one of these supposed posts, it never pans out as promised.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:12 PM
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That’s your opinion. It's just the reality of the discussion. Meanwhile, abortion has been criminalized This is totally irrelevant, but that was the Catholics, and Catholicism is mainly entertainment for older women these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:11 PM
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but a threat is a threat Even an imagined one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:09 PM
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Then we'll just chalk it up to your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:08 PM
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So the doctor is personally threatening the patient, in your mind? That's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:44 PM
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They say it verbatim. Who says it? Let's see an example. I've seen you make this doctor comparison already and it's not equivalent. Of course it is. Not every warning is a threat. The doctor has multiple and repeated examples to draw that probability from. You aren't making any sense. Is the doctor threatening an action on their own behalf or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:44 PM
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Ok, I'll bite. What post?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:42 PM
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Men would be fine Gotta disagree here. If you have ever been in an ER, there are lots of women doing great work. We couldn't handle them or other women professionals disappearing overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:55 PM
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When someone warns of the consequences of smoking, do you consider them to be making a personal threat to damage someone's lungs?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:54 PM
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If an engineer is telling you that a building will collapse if a repair isn't made, do you consider that to be the engineer threatening to personally make the building collapse?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:53 PM
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Why else would that be advised? As I said, as a criticism and a way of telling them to shut the fuck up. No one is trying to save anyone. No one gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:10 PM
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Yes, that’s the whole point of the issue of sexlessness This post isn't about the issue of sexlessness. This is about criticism of hypocrisy and the unhinged interpretations that follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:03 PM
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I'm sure you can find some extreme fringe weirdo trolling by saying all kinds of things. Some people say all PIV sex is rape, or that all men should be enslaved, but they are so fringe as to be irrelevant to any larger conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:57 PM
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Did they actually say that or is that just what you suspect they really mean underneath?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:56 PM
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That's your main character syndrome talking. No one is trying to save you or civilization. They are just criticizing hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:54 PM
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Lol dude, we are on Reddit right now and yes, there are definitely guys on here telling woman they should or should have to have sex with with But they don't actually say that, do they? That's what you extrapolate from what they really said. with the extreme and blatant "threat" of what the long term results of not doing it will be. So if a doctor tells a patient what the consequences will be if the patient doesn't stop smoking, do you consider that to be the doctor threatening to personally har…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:36 PM
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You just imagined some nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:54 PM
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You clearly want us (women in general) to settle You imagined this part out of your main character syndrome. The criticism is of hypocrisy. No one is trying to save you or society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:54 PM
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No, he just didn't say what you claimed he said. You literally misquoted him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:50 PM
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That's irrelevant to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:47 PM
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Because all you’re insinuating is to force women to pair up with men who women don’t want You imagined that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:47 PM
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You understand that they aren't threatening to collapse society, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:45 PM
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Why are you asserting that they are low quality? Why do we consider the fat guy low quality? Human beings don't have quality anyway. We're not cuts of meat. Do you tell that to every woman you hear complaining about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:37 AM
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You realize that this wasn't even what they said, right? You are imagining things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:35 AM
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Again, the starvation thing is just something women do for other women. Men aren't into that sort of thing. Look at the actresses who men think are beautiful. Scarlet Johansen never looked like she was underfed. Tits and ass are fat. Men like tits and ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:31 AM
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Normal shaped women being shamed for not being anorexic definitely is a situation where only women are the problem, but men are shamed for being fat as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:27 AM
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I use "licentious" as a masculine alternate synonym of the feminine "promiscuous". I can't see how that makes any sense linguistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:25 AM
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Of all the stuff that’s potentially unfair, the body positivity movement being probably focused on young women is not one of them. As long as we agree that this is strictly something the activists do for other women, then that concludes the discussion of the thread you jumped into. That said, Hold on there brother there were people saying that Kate winslet in titanic was fat. Certainly other women. Men are far less critical of that level of imperfection. Male models aren’t typically told to lose…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:21 AM
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Guys have said in this sub many times that women should be paired up with men against our wil Paired up by who? Who actually said this, specifically? I think you imagined this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:48 AM
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“It's just a listing of possible consequences if women's standards were to go to a certain level and stay there.” Did you actually read that whole comment? They were saying that they were not going to do anything of the sort, but speculating outcomes. “I personally do not think women will become so selective that we will see existential threats to civilization. But it is a possibility.” What point are you trying to make with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:48 AM
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Its not that women are more libidinous I said they were less libidinous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:46 AM
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Read the whole thread. No one is victimizing you when they expect you to actually follow the thread you jumped into. Quit with the hysterical alarm bells already.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:45 AM
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or we'll take away your rights You imagined this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:44 AM
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*stop fucking chads, because they will be rejected by hiqh quality family father type guys for having a too high body count You are extrapolating way more than this actually says. It's main character syndrome. Someone saying that women with too many past partners won't be able to get a man to commit isn't trying to find a way for the woman to work things out for herself. It's just stating facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:44 AM
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My favorite thing men here say is that women contribute nothing to society. You imagined that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:40 AM
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No, it’s a problem that men want solved, or they will destroy civilization This is just silly and unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:36 AM
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Then celebrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:36 AM
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It's not even hypocritical to have standards that you don't yourself meet. It's hypocritical to complain about the quality of others from a position of very low quality. That's what the fat guy scenario illustrates.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:35 AM
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And people are allowed to criticize them for complaining. If you don't like it, don't listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:31 AM
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The thread you jumped into was about the fact that the activists do not intend to help fat people, but to elevate fat women exclusively. The rest is you going off on your own tangent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:30 AM
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why even criticize who they choose to date? You are missing the point entirely. No one is criticizing who they choose to date. They are criticized for the hypocrisy. Take another look at the fat guy example. I don't believe for a second that men do this in an effort to help women. That's the main character syndrome talking. No one suggested that anyone was criticizing them in an effort to help them. Read the OP more carefully. The point is to criticize them and tell them to shut the fuck up, jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:27 AM
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This is the place to debate something like that. Women complain in sheltered places where even the slightest pushback is banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:40 AM
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A man not getting sex from any number of random women is not a victim of anything. Did anyone suggest that they were?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:38 AM
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Translation: You tried to play smart and got dunked, so now you are going to scamper off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:36 AM
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You are right, but you responded to my response to someone who said just that, so it was fair to assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:35 AM
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They can if they want? But we agree that they don't, right? Can we at least get that much straight? I don't understand men who complain about women advocating for causes for women. You were trying to sell the idea that they were advocating for fat people generally. That's not accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:28 AM
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You have this silly LARP that you like to imagine yourself in, and you attribute those thoughts to others as if they are in the same LARP (though in an opposing role), when really they are thinking something totally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:26 AM
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men are terribly libidinous and licentious. Women are certainly licentious (I'm guessing you learned that term in The Church like I did), although I would agree that they are less libidinous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:24 AM
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Even if we grant all of that for the sake of the discussion, those activists aren't doing the same for fat men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:23 AM
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The culture is fucked and there is no middle ground to be found. I just watched my friend who is a fit, dedicated father get completely irrationally screamed at in public by his fat, childish wife over something she misunderstood and assumed. There's no way to get through to her. It's not worth trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:40 AM
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Because you acted as if you were reading my mind, but you were really just projecting. This isn't difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:37 AM
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Then how are sexless men going to get sex? It's irrelevant. They are just criticizing hypocrisy. It's not supposed to solve any other problems. sex, dating and relationships are currently voluntary No one is suggesting othewise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:36 AM
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Use your words...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:34 AM
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Whether they do or not is irrelevant. The criticism is of hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:34 AM
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The only thing activists are encouraging people to do is stop shaming fat people To stop people from shaming fat women, and to convince us that they are beautiful. That's an important distinction because those activists are not saying that fat men are beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:33 AM
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No one is saying that they shouldn't be as picky as they like, and no one is saying that they should have sex they don't want. They are criticizing the hypocrisy of bitching about men who don't meet standards that the women themselves don't meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:25 AM
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Big problem most red pilled men have is women having too much sex... They don't have a problem with them having too much sex, they just think they aren't worth a relationship after they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:24 AM
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So why should women NOT chase after them? No one is saying they shouldn't. The point is that they should stop complaining about the quality of men when their own quality is in the shitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:22 AM
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Except women aren’t ranting all over the internet about not getting enough attention from men… They are ranting all over the internet about the quality of men, when their own quality is shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:21 AM
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I know you know in your heart and soul You can't address anything I actually said, so you have to resort to mindreading something easier to criticize. It's just a stupid projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:21 AM
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Then why don't men would mind their own business? Because the women are vocally criticizing men for problems the women created for themselves. That's the point of telling them to shut the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:20 AM
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But apparently it doesn't work enough to prevent you from making this useless thread. If it's so useless, why are you spending time here spraying irrational piss?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:19 AM
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Please, elaborate if you actually have something to say. Teach us all about irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:18 AM
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No one would complain if they just silently didn't engage. They are getting told to shut the fuck up because their criticisms are irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:17 AM
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But if you don’t, they will be death, rape and suffering. This is just an unhinged projection. There will be a bunch of miserable cat ladies raising hell online. That's as far as it goes. You imagined the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:16 AM
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Some of these incels even claim that women should be forced into sex slavery by the government. Who exactly is saying this? Either this is in your imagination or this is some 12 year old trolling you. At most.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:14 AM
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You clearly have no idea what the word 'irony' means. In both the case of the fat guy I mentioned and the complaining women, no one is telling them to have sex with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:43 PM
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Trolls say goofy things for attention on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:42 PM
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Your point just isn't making any sense. No one is telling women to have sex with men they don't want to. The beauty industry or the (much smaller) PUA industry doesn't really have anything to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:40 PM
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Ok, but that doesn't really address anything I said in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:34 PM
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People feel justified in saying horrific stuff to actresses People, including both men and women, feel justified in saying all kinds of horrible stuff on the internet to both male and female public figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:32 PM
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Lots of scrotes aren't criticized for wanting beautiful wen though. Lots of women aren't criticized for what they want. That doesn't actually make any sense as a reply to what I said. There's entire PUA courses and communities designed for below average men to gain access to women And there's an entire beauty and cosmetic surgery industry designed for below average women to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:31 PM
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Someone threatened the actress who An anecdote about a totally unserious threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:29 PM
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See how easy that was to turn around? I already turned it around with the fat guy example. It works both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:27 PM
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