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Social IssuesEsraYmssik/r/MensRights06/07/17 03:53 PM
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Chloe Roma I kinda lost interest when she claimed to be the first female YouTube MRA. Like a decade after Karen Straughan stopped making regular videos.
/r/MensRights03/05/26 10:06 PM
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If one were being cynical one might note that the likelihood of women enacting, or falling victim to, such political violence is quite low. Rather like politicians (and musicians) who were quite adamantly pacifist in their younger years, but now they're too old to fight, happily bang the drums for war... if one were being cynical.
/r/MensRights27/04/26 04:27 PM
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As far as my antecedents, I have been involved in the movement in one way or another since Iron John, I don't need to pass your ridiculous litmus of who subscribes most strongly to particular jargon. Iron John, eh? Well, good for you. Well done. Have a fucking banana. Although you don't appear to have heard of Karen Straughan, Paul Elam, Janice Fiamengo, Warren Farrell or others in the MHRM, as you would have heard the term from them. It's not my litmus test whether or not YOU count as a MHRA, M…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 11:54 AM
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I would be interested in seeing you provide examples of the historical use here (or anywhere, really), which you seem to expect to be common parlance. Even google doesn't seem to know what the hell you are talking about. Ah. I see the source of your confusion. You see, I came to this sub FROM /r/MensRights, where the term "Men's Human Rights Movement" and the acronym are a commonplace. I'm not sure how one can profess an interest in Male Advocacy and not have at least passing interest in that su…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 09:46 AM
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Let me get this straight, you're on a sub called LeftWingMaleAdvocates, and you're thrown by the term Men's Human Rights Movement. And the best bit? You act smug about it, calling it stupid or like a TikTok thing. I promise the second or so you saved not typing it will be eclipsed hundreds of times over by people having to puzzle out what the fuck it means. No. it's apparently just you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 06:56 PM
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I would argue it's not the Tates (nor the Breiviks or the like) that harm the MHRM. It's the people who wilfully conflate them. Let's be honest, Tate is to the MHRM what aerosol cheese is to Darwinian Evolution.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 02:21 PM
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Oh you will. It'll be all about how the girls internalised misogyny, so they were acting out toxic masculinity... or some such nonsense.
/r/MensRights17/05/25 08:55 AM
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Yes, absolutely true. Look back to WW1 and all those men enjoying their freedom to jump up in the air and scatter themselves over a large radius, or to play fun games of "Dodge the Bullet". /s Seriously, this idea is absolute horse shit. As far as ik only men from a particular strata were free in the society. And the women in that stratum were more free than lower class men.
/r/MensRights10/04/25 05:58 PM
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Excuse the parallel, but it reminds me of how the Left treats the working class, particularly pro-Brexit voters in the UK; as idiots, 'deplorable', 'brain damaged', stupid, fundamentally flawed, guilty of White PrivilegeTM while at the same time mocking their poverty. Then the Trumps, the Farages, the AfDs come along and are all, "you're the salt of the earth. You built this country. You ARE this country!" And the left is all 'Shocked Pikachu Face' when populists win elections. You tell boys the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/25 07:44 AM
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Why do people always engage in whataboutery when it comes to male genital mutilation. That wasn't what I was attempting to do. If that's how it came across, my bad.
/r/MensRights13/03/25 11:42 AM
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Selective service is still a thing, right? Right now I'd be more worried about that if I was an American man. Trump's been talking a lot about using military force. So much, he's going to require a lot of bodies. [edit to add] Don't get me wrong, this is great news. But... I'd worry, is it just a sop? An easy morsel to toss to the 'manosphere' (god, I hate that term, but it fits here) so they don't notice the draft for all the cheering?
/r/MensRights12/03/25 06:44 AM
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Something like: "Men are insensitive and thoughtless." "This man is sensitive and thoughtful." "That man is a woman."
/r/MensRights11/03/25 09:00 AM
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Just out of curiosity, how is this a Men's Rights issue?
/r/MensRights09/03/25 03:12 AM
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Sure, you can leave a comment. But I can dismiss your comment as ill-informed at best.
/r/MensRights02/11/24 01:41 PM
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I didn't see the video tbh. You should've stopped there.
/r/MensRights02/11/24 10:22 AM
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Well, in most cases, men's rights activists are right-wing. Sauce? Every time they poll, /R/MensRights consistently swings left.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/24 02:01 PM
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World wide pandemic. Economies going crazy. Supply chains still recovering from COVID. War in Ukraine. Female led super hero TV show... ...it's great to see people grappling with the REAL issues.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 11:29 AM
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Much of The MRM has been Alt Right adjacent from the get-go, rather than Far Leftist. Funny that every time someone polls the sub, it leans left. So Imma ask you for sauce for that claim. ALSO just because someone disagrees with the far left, does NOT make them far- or alt- right. You do know that Social Democrats are a thing, right? As are Chrisitian Democrats, One Nation Conservatives and Greens, among others.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 11:06 AM
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Thank you.
/r/MensRights27/08/22 08:49 AM
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These would be MY central tenets of being an MRA: Men are NOT oppressed. That whole idea that society is split into oppressor/oppressed along gender lines is nonsense. Actually, worse than nonsense. It turns relevant discussion of REAL issues into a "who has it worse" pissing contest that hides genuine issues that affect men, that affect women, that affect PEOPLE generally. OTOH A large number of problems faced by men are not specific to men, but are definitely exacerbated by the unequal focus/c…
/r/MensRights27/08/22 12:07 AM
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I love the way that here we are; sympathising over the death of someone who we 'ought' to consider an 'enemy'. Here you are, spitting venom and mocking her death. Who is the misogynist here? The people who can distinguish the person from the ideology? Or the person who will throw one of their own under the bus to take a cheap shot?
/r/AntiFeminists23/08/22 12:51 PM
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"Don't trust every quote you read on the internet" Abraham Lincoln
/r/MensRights16/08/22 11:02 AM
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A few ideas, sorry if this is a long post. First, "Gender roles exist to serve societies, not individuals" Imagine 100 cavemen, no strict gender roles. EVERY task is split 50/50 between men and women. They can have a max of 25 babies per year, cos only half the women are available to have babies, but that's OK because those babies enough to replace deaths. The population is stable. Now imagine, just across the river is another cave, except THIS group splits jobs by gender. Women stay home to coo…
/r/MensRights23/06/22 04:02 PM
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there are just as many ways that men are oppressed that people ignore Sorry, but no. Just no. That whole oppressor/oppressed dichotomy is a feminist idea. It's how THEY look at the world. Adopting their language cedes a huge part of the argument.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 11:48 AM
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It's often coincident with Boisterous Overactive Youth Syndrome.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 04:01 PM
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Guess someone's never met a pink girl. Ex of mine (total rock chick) had a daughter. Guess who's home is now full of barbies? Saw a guy on a train; all in black, leather, tatts, piercings, Hello Kitty backpack cos daughter was with him.
/r/AntiFeminists19/06/22 02:42 PM
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“[A proud independent womon] should never hold a door open for a man." Isn't that kinda... sexist in itself?
/r/MensRights19/06/22 02:20 PM
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"Feminism is just about treating women as human beings." "Feminism just wants men and women to be treated equally." Then why did feminists make bomb threats against Erin Pizzey when she tried to set up a shelter for male victims of DV? Why do femininists fight against gender neutral laws on DV? Why are feminists silent when 80% of suicides are men? when Boko Haram murders boys? when the US army is ordered to ignore the rape of boys by their Afghan allies? Hardly seems like they want equal treatm…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/22 01:07 PM
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Women weren't allowed to work? O RLY? What do you call a male vs female police officer? Policeman vs police woman. The roles are so new, we just stuck 'man' and 'woman' at the end. What do you call a male vs female person serving food? Waiter vs waitress. The distinction is so old the language has changed to reflect the difference. What do you call a male vs female person who makes bread? Baker vs Baxter. Betcha didn't know that. There are gendered terms for jobs so old they've fallen out of use…
/r/AntiFeminists25/05/22 07:46 AM
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I embrace the genuinely egalitarian vision often espoused by mainstream feminists Like the NoW rewarding Emma Sulkowicz for her malicious rape accusations? https://news.artnet.com/art-world/national-organization-for-women-honors-emma-sulkowicz-527621 Those egalitarian organisations?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/22 07:27 AM
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Also, you misspelled Guardian. Quite. It's spelled Grauniad, as any fule kno.
/r/MensRights23/05/22 04:21 PM
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Because we are better than them.
/r/MensRights23/05/22 04:06 PM
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"Will my teenage son be careful to clean himself properly under his foreskin?" WIll my teenage son remember to pullback (and forth... and back... and forth... etc etc ad infinitum) his foreskin in the shower? We may never know... Really? Has this woman NEVER met a man before?
/r/AntiFeminists02/05/22 10:00 PM
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Steve Shives is a longtime simp. He apparently also has the habit of pre-emptively blocking people, does not debate in good faith, and is an all-round twat. He'd never talk to actual MRAs. To be honest, I'm surprised he's still a thing. Oh, he's not. This video is from 2013. I think we can safely chuck it in the "fuck it" bucket.
/r/MensRights02/05/22 09:34 PM
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tl;dr It's better to not be a dick to your partner about money if you want your relationship to last. In other news, your dog wants steak.
/r/MensRights30/04/22 11:00 AM
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Would framing men's issues as "Equal rights for people assigned male at birth, regardless of gender expression" make it click for those who are interested in trans rights but buy the usual narrative about men? No. Because people are NOT 'assigned' male or female. They are OBSERVED. There's a small minority born intersex, and they are 'assigned' although even that is AFAIK diminishing in favour of letting the child form and express their own identity. The whole AMAB/AFAB bullshit is Gender Critic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/22 11:07 AM
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Not really but... the "best way to take a whizz" for whom, exactly? Surely the best way for me, as a man, to tap the keg is the way I choose. Why is there this push to dictate (and I use the term carefully) how men water the daisies? I can't play Sink The Bismark with cigarette butts if I'm sitting down to syphon the python. I'd agree it's demeaning for people to think they have a right to tell others how to drain the main vein. Whether I sit or stand to spend a penny is purely MY business.
/r/MensRights21/04/22 03:34 PM
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[people] tend to abuse my politeness and agreeableness Two issues I see that you might like to consider: Being polite does NOT equal being submissive. Courtesy means treating others well, not allowing others to walk over you. Learning to be more assertive, to set boundaries, and to define and hold to standards, are worthy goals. Beware you don't go too far the other way to douchiness, however. Now this may well be projection on my part, however, I worry that when you say "abuse my politeness" yo…
/r/AntiFeminists21/04/22 09:41 AM
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No, I think you were right. Why are 90% of refugees woman (and children)? Because the men are still in the warzone, alive if they're lucky, but they're probably not. So THOSE men, ie the ones who died or are forced to stay are the earliest, the FOREMOST victims.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 07:03 PM
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So what you're saying is Peterson is a total liar? /s
/r/MensRights14/04/22 06:46 PM
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In https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29787593/ Peterson says: Conscientious and Neurotic individuals together appear particularly sensitive to task difficulty, becoming significantly more motivated by negative feedback on playful tasks and demotivated by negative feedback on frustrating tasks. Your response? [edit to add] Also, in https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23795918/ he says: Intellect was independently associated with general intelligence (g) and with verbal and nonverbal intelligence about …
/r/MensRights13/04/22 03:23 PM
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OK, I can't think of the correct logical terminology right now. So I'm going to try and explain my disagreement with you in natural language. To say something WOULD be something else, you are claiming that one necessarily follows from the other. Frex, let's say cars are defined as motorised vehicles with 4 wheels. If you point out a car to me, I can tell you it WOULD necessarily have a motor. If you pointed out something else with an motor, it WOULD NOT necessarily be a car. It COULD be a car. I…
/r/MensRights12/04/22 05:51 PM
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While it may be true that it happens to women more often, Except it is not true. From the abstract: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10989615/ Women were slightly more likely (d = -.05) than men to use one or more act of physical aggression and to use such acts more frequently. From https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01973530701331247?journalCode=hbas20 Findings revealed that although the incarcerated sample experienced a higher frequency of violence, the nature of IPV was similar across…
/r/MensRights12/04/22 05:16 PM
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Because like you said humans are animals, a female would be a human that could be an adult or a child. No. You have it completely arse-about-face. A FEMALE would be an animal that has, frex, female chromosomes (XX for mammals, ZW in birds). There is NO way you can say that "a female would be a human". On the face of it, you just said something risibly absurd. The existence of females of any other animal disproves you. You could say a WOMAN would be a female, because 'woman' is a subset of 'femal…
/r/MensRights12/04/22 09:40 AM
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A femiinist with double standards? Perish the thought. Quick! Fetch my smelling salts! /s
/r/MensRights11/04/22 12:58 PM
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I know. I had to double check this was /r/MensRights an not /r/TumblrInAction.
/r/MensRights11/04/22 12:55 PM
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"Feminists do it" is hardly an argument FOR, is it? Especially not on this sub.
/r/MensRights11/04/22 12:54 PM
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OK, let me put this in simple terms. Humans are a subset of animals. Females are a subset of animals. Human females are the subset of animals that are both 'female' and 'human'. There is a specific term for that; 'woman'. One can rightly describe a woman as a "female human", but to or refer to (or describe) her solely as a "female" is to suggest she does not fit in the category 'human'. Yeah but can't humans be female? That's not what I said. That's so ridiculous a strawman that it passes beyond…
/r/MensRights11/04/22 11:45 AM
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Animals can be female. Only humans can be women.
/r/MensRights10/04/22 10:09 AM
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do some men get upset when a woman defends them?
/r/MensRights09/04/22 08:13 PM
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Something like: MGTOW aren't total dicks, the online 'hate' is from the of newly red-pilled who feel betrayed when they learn the truth, MGTOW actually have some genuine concerns about how society is being engineered and how men are feeling forced to change in ways they dislike, MGTOW is more about self-improvment than hating women, and most MGTOW just want to be left the hell alone.
/r/MensRights09/04/22 02:05 PM
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And you actually got your masters from this? I'm genuinely surprised you weren't blacklisted for going against the 'norm'. An interesting read. I kept waiting for the "Aha! Really they're swine. Here's a quote from Dave Futrelle" or some such. Seeing an academic paper actually stick to principles is a refreshing change, especially when approaching a topic so contentious. Interesting conclusion that MGTOW is more of a 'hidden resistance'. Never thought of it that way myself, then again I've never…
/r/MensRights09/04/22 11:46 AM
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Difficult question... Perhaps women are just people and people are self-centered.
/r/MensRights23/03/22 01:29 PM
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Yes, we live in a very predominantly capitalist world, so it is the greatest form of oppression [...] we shouldn't forget capitalism really is the primary system of oppression. That, my little Tankie chum, is called equivocation. You're fucking about with the meaning of 'greatest' which now, apparently, means 'primary' or 'most common' rather than the generally accepted meaning: the superlative of adjective, great·er, great·est. unusually or comparatively large in size or dimensions: A great fir…
/r/MensRights13/03/22 10:15 PM
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I didn't say all the bad things that ever happened were capitalism, but very nice strawman! No. You said that the greatest forms of oppression came from capitalism. Ergo worse than any Communist atrocity. Also yes, the holocaust was capitalist. No. The Holocaust came from Nazi theories about race. It certainly wasn't in keeping with ANY economic policy, let alone economic sense. Hell it pretty much cost Germany the war. you don't necessarily support Hitler, Pinochet, Mussolini, Franco and the re…
/r/MensRights13/03/22 08:26 PM
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Why don't modern people rally against capitalism? IDK... maybe it's because after the obvious failures of Marxism the left went down the rabbit hole of identity politics?
/r/MensRights13/03/22 12:32 PM
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the greatest forms of oppression still come from capitalism O RLY? TIL the govts that gave us the Holodomor, the Holocaust and the Killing Fields were all capitalists. TIL that Tibet, Uyghur concentration camps, and struggle sessions were run by capitalists. TIL that the regime in North Korea, that punishes dissent with imprisonment for generations, was a capitalist state. /s
/r/MensRights13/03/22 12:29 PM
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In Afghanistan? Yeah, 'cause boys have it SO good in Afghanistan. /s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
/r/MensRights12/03/22 04:52 PM
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Sima Bahous, who in Sept. 2021 became head of the U.N body dedicated to gender equality [...] told CNBC’s Tania Bryer that women and girls are particularly vulnerable to sexual and gender-based violence during conflict, as well as loss of access to healthcare, education, food, water and sanitation. I have no words for this lack of awareness... men are victims of rape in war: from the Guardian: https://archive.ph/Ff1kH https://www.chathamhouse.org/2019/01/ignoring-male-victims-sexual-violence-con…
/r/MensRights11/03/22 12:58 PM
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No. Absolutely not. I wouldn't want students losing grades because their research goes against approved "Meninist" thought. I wouldn't want suicides ignored because "Matriarchy". I'd hate to see our society being twisted around to fit a narrative that matches no version of reality, simply because "penis". Mainstream? Yes. Like feminism? Nah, I'll pass. I'd love it if the MRM could become more well known and supported, without a doubt... but perhaps I'm just quibbling about semantics.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 02:06 PM
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Simple answer. They don't.
/r/MensRights01/03/22 10:38 AM
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men are ill equiped for therapy Dafuq? Is it time for the Principal Skinner meme?
/r/MensRights28/02/22 11:42 AM
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Or is this just another example of women feminists changing the rules so they can shit on men? FTFY
/r/MensRights26/02/22 04:05 PM
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Only [rich] women matter to feminism. FTFY
/r/MensRights26/02/22 11:56 AM
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I love the smell of male privilege in the morning. /s
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 02:27 PM
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Yes. A while back someone came on the sub demanding that the MRHM fight for his right to a relationship. He was a "high status male" because he went to a prestigious law school, who deserved a "high status" female. He would not see that he was not "high status" compared to all the other students, male and female, at that school; would not see that it was up to him to improve.
/r/MensRights25/02/22 02:13 PM
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The difference between a Feminist and a 'Feminist' None. None whatsoever.
/r/AntiFeminists17/02/22 09:17 PM
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Huh? You don't debate someone to change THEIR mind, you do it to change the minds of the audience. Let them post their "Kill all men" BS. It only shows them up. Two things to remember: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_Time_British_National_Party_controversy To much wailing and gnashing of teeth, a mainstream TV show had a neo-nazi on. The guy proved to be such a moron that he lost all his support. The group is now esentially defunct. The old adage: Feminists are stupid. Throw facts at them…
/r/AntiFeminists12/02/22 12:36 AM
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Is it possible to teach some ppl that the "average behavior of X" they think about is almost always a thin slice in the middle on the edge of the bell curve FTFY
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/22 09:13 PM
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Denounce what, exactly? You haven't posted a link to a story, only YOUR version of a story. All I can see from the thumbnail is some people holding a large piece of paper. Could be lottery winners posing with a cheque for all I know.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 09:04 PM
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Also interesting to note, most men couldn't vote in the UK prior to 1987 Huh?
/r/MensRights25/01/22 09:43 AM
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So Patriarchy Theory then?
/r/AntiFeminists25/01/22 09:33 AM
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To be fair, I don't think OP should have this discussion at all. If their friend is having a breakdown, telling them they're wrong isn't going to help them at all. In this case, I'd say OP would do better to just be supportive and listen to their friend's concerns without judgement (for want of a better term). It's a discussion worth having, yes, but in this specific situation I'd suggest being a friend is more important than being an activist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/22 02:57 PM
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men are more likely to be victims of all violent crime, except sexual, Even that's debatable. IIRC more men are raped in US prisons every year than women worldwide.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/22 02:31 PM
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improve the conditions of men's prisons. I love your optimism...
/r/MensRights23/12/21 12:25 PM
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If you haven't watched the movie "Free Guy" don't. It's full of woke virtue signaling nonsense crap; not funny at all. FTFY
/r/MensRights23/12/21 12:19 PM
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Imma take option 5: This sub does a good job of debating all sides of issues and not banning people.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 08:11 PM
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Bluntly, no. Firstly MRM is NOT an ideology. There are no grand theories, no simple slogans you can point to and say, "that's it." Second, feminism DOES have grand throries, theories that centre men as the source of all evil. One cannot be a feminist without accepting some form of Patriarchy Theory, the idea that society is organised as a system whereby MEN (all men, and only men) exercise power by oppressing WOMEN (all women, and ONLY women). Frex, Andrea Dworkin : "Being female in this world m…
/r/AntiFeminists04/11/21 11:23 AM
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Men/boys are only cared about when. 1: they are under 16 years old and in peril. [x] Doubt.... sadly. /s
/r/MensRights20/10/21 12:04 PM
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feminism
/r/MensRights07/10/21 08:19 PM
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And the decline in piracy caused Global Warmng. Your point?
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/21 06:27 PM
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If I’m not providing specific examples, does that not indicate to you that the I feel that the not so subtle tones of misogyny on that sub are apparent enough? No. No it does not. It’s obvious, many of the users that frequent that sub, dislike women. Then it should present ZERO problem for you to provide links. If you want people to take your 'feelings' as evidence, then /r/feminism is thataways. tl;dr Facts or GTFO.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/21 09:19 AM
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Try https://old.reddit.com/r/menkampf/
/r/AntiFeminists25/08/21 02:50 PM
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Yeah, I figured. Wasn't having a go at you.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 11:27 AM
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assigned gender at birth I know you're trying to explain Tumblrese, but I really hate the use of this term. It was coined to describe intersex people and how their gender identity can be 'forced' on them by literally being 'assigned' a gender, because their external genitalia is 'odd' (I genuinely can't think of a better word, sorry).
/r/MensRights24/08/21 11:22 AM
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Lately?
/r/MensRights23/08/21 02:03 PM
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Emotional Labor!!!!!
/r/MensRights16/08/21 10:16 AM
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Feinism (noun): the fear that somewhere, somehow, a man is having a good time. :D
/r/AntiFeminists13/08/21 04:02 PM
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Dafuq you been smoking? When one woman acts like an idiot, obviously patriarchy is to blame. /S
/r/AntiFeminists06/08/21 12:45 PM
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If men don't hate women: Why did men ban women from doing so many things during most of European and American history? - Like coal mining, working on oil rigs, being drafted and being killed in wars? Why did men ban women from voting in most countries in the world such as UK and USA? - when most men could not vote either. Why did men create religions... etc etc? - Beats the shit outa me. Maybe, just maybe, tying gender roles to religiou authority was good for the SOCIETY, and damn the individual…
/r/MensRights31/07/21 10:21 AM
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In fact, think back on sports related to men in general and try to find a well-known example where a man's well-being was something that mattered to us - and for the right reasons. Possibly Niki Lauda, in the 1976 Japanese Grand Prix?
/r/MensRights29/07/21 03:22 PM
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any 'evidence' that women are violent is totally evidence of how white, cis-het patriarchal hegemonic power structures force women to internalise toxic masculine behaviours. So when your gf murders you, it's actually because SHE is the victim, bless her little cotton socks. /s
/r/MensRights28/07/21 12:27 PM
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I think a lot of ground-roots feminism is ALL about class. FTFY
/r/MensRights23/07/21 09:28 AM
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Imma have to diagree strongly. 'Sealioning' is, I'd suggest, simply a term used to dismiss reasonable requests for sauce. It is a bad faith attempt to dismiss an argument by claiming the argument itself is in bad faith. Q: How is asking for evidence for a position a bad thing? A: when said position is indefensible; based on anecdote, emotion, woo, or just simply made up on the spot. One's positions should be based on evidence, so asking for it should be no problem. Heck, ask me why I had tea or …
/r/MensRights08/07/21 08:00 PM
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Ground-breaking new research shows society still does not readily recognise male domestic abuse victims and some may have lost their lives as a result. (emphasis mine) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233717660_Thirty_Years_of_Denying_the_Evidence_on_Gender_Symmetry_in_Partner_Violence_Implications_for_Prevention_and_Treatment was published over 10 years ago.
/r/MensRights02/07/21 09:17 AM
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But, I take your point that you believe the feminists wrecked everything. I did not say that. I said that feminism has a history of invading, subverting and eventually neutering other movements that might actually be disruptive to the status quo. Maybe you could help and be more specific about who these feminists were or was it just a group of female looking forms who caused the mayhem? Oh boy, the familiar charge that since I am pro Mens' Rights (and therefore anti-feminist) I must hate women. …
/r/MensRights22/06/21 04:18 PM
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So feminsim as you describe it benefits all women plus male elites? (emphasis mine) Sadly, no. From the start feminism has been about the interests of rich women. Frex, we hear constant complaints that "women weren't allowed to work outside the home" That completely ignores all the servants, factory workers, artisans. Some english surnames are feminised version of trade names ie Baker becomes Baxter. Women WERE working, it was only the pampered rich who had time to complain they were bored. Even…
/r/MensRights22/06/21 02:07 PM
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Yeah, nerds get pretty het up about their card cases.
/r/AntiFeminists24/03/21 02:18 PM
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We have plenty of posts supporting trans men. Because we don't distinguish. Black or white? Gay or straight? Cis or trans? It's just men. You facing discrimination at work because you're trans? Not our problem. You facing discrimination because you're a man? That's our thang, and we don't give two stuffs if you're an 'outie' or an 'innie'.
/r/MensRights07/12/20 11:36 AM
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Bill or George... any damn thing but Sue!
/r/MensRights10/11/20 12:40 PM
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Imagine a movie lead guy saying the same about women, he would never get work again FTFY
/r/AntiFeminists14/10/20 03:31 PM
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Nearly all kids who go on puberty blockers go on cross-sex hormones, often at the same time. sauce?
/r/MensRights29/09/20 08:16 AM
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Any activisim i have seen about mens rights is met with caring, supporting womyn letting us know all men's issues can only be fixed by feminism... or some such. BTW, do you want to buy a bridge?
/r/MensRights15/09/20 09:16 AM
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if women gives births sometime doctors will ask their male partners if they want a extra stitch on the women for better sexual pleasure (sometimes they ONLY ask the men and not the women herself) this can be painful for the women when they have sex again sauce? In many places around the world women cannot get an education, and men 100% can, is as if they were seen as superior so they absolutely can with no issue Yeah, sure, there are places where girls aren't educated. There are places where gir…
/r/MensRights11/09/20 10:08 PM
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Uh... you DO? Where is it the law that women HAVE to like men? Especially in the modern West? She, apparently, loves her hubby (the poor guy) but doesn't like other men. Yeah... and...? I love my gf, doesn't mean I like ALL other women. But she's getting backlash because she didn't say THAT. She said she hates all men (again, her poor hubby) and she's getting pushback. Of course, out come the handkerchiefs, and the boo-hoos, and the "poor me"s. Sauce: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original…
/r/MensRights11/09/20 01:57 PM
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"the amount of people coming out as trans has increased after trans people are finally starting to become accepted in todays society and aren't being shunned by everyone around them, they're obv just doing it for attention and no other reason at all" The problem is that the question of whether this increase in trans youth is due to more social acceptance or peer pressure is one that IS being shouted down by transflake activists: http://archive.is/xyOBV Please note, when I say transflake, I'm ref…
/r/MensRights11/09/20 12:43 PM
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Puberty blockers won't sterilise anybody. That's not how they work. They have NO permanent effect. Stop taking them and puberty resumes as normal. If a kid is trans (and, yes, they do exist), puberty blockers are prescribed to delay puberty (duh!) until the kid is old enough to make an informed decision whether to continue transition or not. At least that is how I understood the system was supposed to work. If a minor has been given hormone treatment, though, that's a horse of a totally differen…
/r/MensRights10/09/20 06:40 PM
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Daiper changing tables in mens toilets... genius! I can't wait to use that one against a feminist argument. BTW, what's the inverse of '/s'? As in, I'm not being ironic or sarcastic, I 100% mean it.
/r/MensRights10/09/20 03:13 PM
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The opening example in your link is a man looking for adult connections, yes, but ‘the girl’ explicitly told him she was 13. OTOH, the photo she sent explicitly showed she was an adult. I'm not jusitfying pedophiles, but the guy was NOT a pedophile. This was NOT a case of Chris Hansen knocking on Onision's door. This wasn't a case of a cop posing as a 13 year old in a teen chat room and waiting for predators to approach. This was cop posing as an adult woman who built a relationship with a man, …
/r/MensRights08/09/20 01:34 PM
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Who claimed she was 13 on a site that restricted use to adults, then sent a pic of an obvious adult. I'm not going to say the guy is completely innocent, but there is certainly a grey area where the police actions are questionable. Read the article I linked. These are men seeking ADULT connection who get tricked into meeting an adult in circumstances that could be presented as trying "to meet up in person after she bluntly told him she was 13". And people like you are cheering this on. I get it.…
/r/MensRights07/09/20 11:15 AM
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One thing that appears to unite the majority of boys and men in their masculinity is the almost total disassociation from anything held in society as feminine. That's farcically redudndant. Masculine people distinguish themselves from feminine people. O RLY? That's kinda how you define masculine people. Come back next week for my ground breaking research on Jazz fans and how one thing that appears to unite the majority of jazz fans in their love of jazz is the almost total disassociation from an…
/r/MensRights07/09/20 10:01 AM
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Makes perfect sense. It's a criticism of feminist men, not men as a whole. Used to be some virulently anti-gay preacher would pop up in the news, infamous for rants against the homosexual agenda etc etc etc. You could set your clock that six months later they'd be exposed for snorting meth off a nale prostitutes chest. Now it's male feminists. And it's due to the same cause, projection. "I want to do this bad thing, therefore everybody wants to do the bad thing." NOTE gay sex isn't a bad thing i…
/r/AntiFeminists07/09/20 09:47 AM
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OP's article links to an original NYT piece. Archived version: http://archive.is/FcBmN Wow... that's some fucked up shit.
/r/MensRights07/09/20 09:38 AM
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It seems possible. Bear in mind; that would mean 1:20 women's deaths would be in childbirth NOT that 1:20 childbirths caused death of the mother. It also means that, historically, 19:20 of women died due to other reasons. https://slate.com/technology/2013/09/death-in-childbirth-doctors-increased-maternal-mortality-in-the-20th-century-are-midwives-better.html In the United States today, about 15 women die in pregnancy or childbirth per 100,000 live births. That’s way too many, but a century ago i…
/r/AntiFeminists06/09/20 11:23 AM
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That's not even wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representation_of_the_People_Act_1918 The Act extended the franchise in parliamentary elections, also known as the right to vote, to men aged over 21, whether or not they owned property, and to women aged over 30 who resided in the constituency or occupied land or premises with a rateable value above £5, or whose husbands did.[2][3] At the same time, it extended the local government franchise to include women aged over 21 on the same terms as …
/r/MensRights06/09/20 06:41 AM
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Don't know if you're being a deliberate troll, but your question basically boils down to: MRAs argue about trivia. Do you agree, or do you believe MRA issues aren't real issues. You're missing the HUGE third option. MRAs are actually concerned about situations such as MGM, the workplace death gap, the suicide gap, the sentencing gap, the widening education gap, the demonisation of masculinity, lack of provision for male victims of domestic and sexual violence etc.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 06:35 AM
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Proof? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4 The attacks have never relied on evidence before. Why would they accept proof of a rebuttal now?
/r/MensRights04/09/20 07:12 PM
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the same circlejerk I see in feminist subreddits. Let's see, have you been banned yet?
/r/AntiFeminists04/09/20 01:01 PM
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Oh look, the latest "we should all just work together" troll. I firmly believe you can be both a feminist and a MR advocate No you can't. To be a feminist you have to believe in Patriarchy Theory, the idea that the WHOLE of society is arranged to oppress women to the benefit of men. You have to believe in 'toxic masculinity'; the idea that masculinity is inherently and essentially poisonous, that ALL men are violent oppressors or tacitly complicit, and that ONLY men exhibit these behaviours. You…
/r/MensRights03/09/20 06:47 PM
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What do you think of the argument that toxic femininity is real because women commit the most child murders? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2174580/ The term neonaticide was coined by Resnick (9) to describe murder of an infant within the first 24 hours of life. Almost all neonaticides are committed by mothers. Neonaticidal mothers are often young, unmarried women with unwanted pregnancies who receive no prenatal care. For a detailed analysis of the neonaticide literature and a dis…
/r/MensRights02/09/20 01:04 PM
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...and the thirty dead so far. But yeah, apart from THOSE fascists (ie people who object to being bankrupted or shot) nobody got hurt. /s
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/20 09:48 AM
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There's more than 8 countries in Europe, and I'd challenge anybody to find one that is NOT working for equality.
/r/MensRights21/08/20 06:34 PM
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No. Longanswer, "fuck no!" Men aren't oppressed. Women aren't oppressed. That whole 'oppression' thing is feminist bullshit, splitting society between oppressor/oppressed on gender lines.
/r/MensRights20/08/20 09:37 AM
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Erin Pizzey started discussing male victimes of DV, soon after opening the world's first DV shelter for women and tried to open a shelter for male victims. She received death threats from feminists, to the point she required police protection and had to flee the UK.
/r/MensRights09/08/20 05:02 PM
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Red Pill movie was removed from YouTube, Netflix Netflix opted not to buy the movie. It was not removed. Get your facts straight. Then again, you are correct, it was protested and was withdrawn from several cinemas that had planned to show it thanks to... can you guess...?
/r/MensRights09/08/20 05:01 PM
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Imma say "no." Long answer, "fuck no." The white feather is a potent reminder/symbol of feminists using shaming to force men (and ONLY men) to fight and die in a war they had no part in deciding, all while screaming, "teh womynz need teh votes!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/20 09:34 AM
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Angry Poster Idiot Makes False clichéd Generalization About MRAs FTFY
/r/MensRights08/08/20 10:42 AM
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Not your personal army.
/r/MensRights07/08/20 10:16 AM
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I think the main reason that men and women are so divided is because it’s become a competition about who’s most oppressed Then you think wrong. Not only do we not think women are oppressed, we don't think men are oppressed. We reject the entire premise that society is split between oppressors/oppressed. There are plenty of twitter screenshots and other examples on this sub of women saying horrible stuff about men but on feminism subs there is just as much evidence of men saying things just as ba…
/r/MensRights07/08/20 10:15 AM
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Well yes... but actually, no. I have every sympathy for men who are only now realising they've been sold a pack of lies about modern dating, sexual politics and the position of men; who've swallowed whole the feminist line about being 'modern, sensitive men' and are even worse off; who are just plain lonely and desiring love. Absolute sympathy. OTOH, I got into it with a self-proclaimed incel on this sub, who was going on about deserving a 'high status' woman, because HE was 'high status'. Ie, h…
/r/MensRights05/08/20 01:02 PM
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She has a baaad case of RISMF (resting "I shat myself" face).
/r/MensRights28/07/20 04:41 PM
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When people call out and criticize invent bad or creepy male behavior, people have no problem with it and even receive money, awards and fame for doing it FTFY Looking at ou, mattress girl, winner of a bravery award from NoW.
/r/AntiFeminists17/07/20 03:55 PM
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Until I discovered that many posts are just hostile towards feminism as a whole, and the comment section is even worse. Perhaps it's because feminism has a LOT of problems? the politicisation (and gendering) of rape and domestic violence the politicisation (and gendering) of infant genital mutilation, ironically leading to a FGM case being thrown out of court in the US because the law was unconstitutional, not covering both sexes patriarchy theory the hostility toward anyone who questions femini…
/r/AntiFeminists15/07/20 12:15 PM
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This is terrible. You'd never find a REAL feminist molesting their younger sibling. I mean there's Lena Dunham, but she's not a REAL feminist really.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 07:50 PM
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Of course you'll never hear a woman say, "happens to girls too." What they WILL say is, "women attempt suicide three times more than men." Although I've never seen sauce for that claim.
/r/MensRights26/06/20 03:47 PM
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Why do users here seem to largely concur with popular transgender ideology? Jesus H (for Herbert) Christ. Transgender ideology? Stop acting like a feminist. Not EVERYTHING is ideological. That male person who just "knows" they ought to have a woman's body isn't pursuing some agenda, they have a serious condition that demands sympathy. Yes, there are a lot of transflake Critical Gender Theory activists, but their greatest success so far seems to be pushing dysphoric people (y'know, those actual t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 04:58 PM
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My cup of tea went cold. Fucking incels. /s
/r/MensRights19/05/20 11:26 PM
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Just because FGM is SOMETIMES worse, doesn’t mean male circumcision isn’t mutilation. FTFY
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 12:47 PM
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When men start having their dicks cut off with dull shards of metal while being held on the ground in public Odd factoid. EVERY country that circumcises girls, also cuts boys. Guess what, those boys get cut in the same shitty conditions as the girls do. with everyone watching as they scream in agony and beg for death, then you can compare the 2. Try and watch a circumcision training video and listen to the boys screaming. And before you ask... NO! I am not going to link one because I haven't got…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/20 05:10 PM
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Dunno why you got downvotes. Seems you got the 'logic' spot on.
/r/MensRights03/05/20 02:36 PM
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Karen Straughan? As in /u/girlwriteswhat? As in one of the leading lights of the MHRM? :D Jokey snark aside, she's a great resource for people interested in what MRAs (male and female) are all about.
/r/MensRights30/04/20 04:19 PM
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Was /r/mensrights EVER 'very right wing'? Stop begging the question.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/20 04:09 PM
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Who said this is a male only sub? There are plenty of women who post here, heck some of the leading lights of the MRM are women and post here regularly.
/r/MensRights23/04/20 01:02 PM
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Damn. Busted.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 04:52 PM
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Firstly, as /u/theanchorman05 pointed out, it's only a term applied to men. There's no discussion of 'toxic feminity' in the mainstream. Second, notice how 'toxic masculinity' (imma call it TM from now on) changes meaning. It's a classic 'Motte and Bailey' doctrine. The 'bailey' in TM is that men are toxic. The 'motte' is "I'm only talking about toxic behaviours by some men". It's a bullshit concept. Third, TM ascribes ONLY negative actions to men, and ONLY men. Anger? Violence? Bullying? Sexual…
/r/MensRights21/04/20 06:54 PM
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Funny thing is, someone recently did exactly this, posted "You're the same, why the fighting?" here and in /feminism. Guess which sub they got push back and debate, and which one they got banned from. Fair go, they did change their view.
/r/MensRights21/04/20 02:09 PM
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We always have had them. How about the MRM drinking game? Take a drink every time you see: The concern troll. "You guys would get a better reponse if you didn't sound so angry." The disingenuous: "I'm simply curious, why do you support the Patrarchy?" The 14 yr old edgelord: "Women suck." The 14 yr old feminist: "something something wage gap something." The shamer: "You guys are just pissy 'cos you can't get laid." The dismisser: "Patriarchy hurts men too (so don't complain, because women someho…
/r/MensRights21/04/20 08:40 AM
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Where are the feminists campaigning for equality in coal mines/forests/oil rigs/bin collectors/etc etc?
/r/MensRights19/04/20 04:20 PM
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Can you name one MRA group that receives proportional funding as the average feminist group? FTFY, sadly...
/r/MensRights13/04/20 12:35 PM
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Mods, Go ahead and ban me. This needed to be said. Yeah, good luck with that. We don't ban people here unless they're truly offensive. Drive-by concern trolls like you? You don't even make the 'offense' needle wobble.
/r/MensRights13/04/20 07:17 AM
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Frankly, no. Feminism and the MRM LITERALLY 2 sides of the same coin. Arguably true as, in many ways, the MRM as it exists today makes the same calls for relaxing gender norms/roles as feminis does. Groups fighting for gender equality. The MRM? Yes. Feminism? Not so much. But they're just looking at the worst parts of the other movement. The 'worst' part of the MRM is people who aren't MRAs. We're constantly conflated with incels, PUAs, MGTOW, and murderous nutbags like Anders Brevik. 'We' look …
/r/MensRights12/04/20 08:20 PM
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A direct statement of a proposition, that is testable and would have a definite answer. Congratulations, OP, you argue better than a feminist.
/r/AntiFeminists12/04/20 12:57 PM
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19 times more likely to die on the job.
/r/MensRights10/04/20 10:55 AM
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Archive: http://archive.is/5vheq So I started reading. First paragraph looks OK. The second? Oh dear: However, the history of the Men’s Rights Movement (MRM) is complex, fueled as much by genuine concerns for equality as disdain for feminism and women in general. (emphasis mine) Typical feminist anti-MRA line. MRAs hate women because women and feminism are identical. The rest follows the usual BS, quoting Michael Kimmel, who likened the MRM to white supremacists. I love the bit where the article…
/r/MensRights10/04/20 10:53 AM
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So... not exactly a GOOD symbol then?
/r/MensRights09/04/20 01:36 PM
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Medusa happens to be the symbol for feminism. Sauce?
/r/MensRights09/04/20 12:40 PM
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most MRAs I know are liberals/libertarians, their sexism is essentially rooted in a refusal to care about structural barriers for women when no-one cares about structural sexism harming men. you're assuming MRAs are sexist, which is funny because one of the most well-known is Karen Straughan. A Voice for Men has many well-respected women writing for them. Heck Waren Farell, one of the guiding lights, used to be a NoW official. refusing to care about structural barriers affecting women? Name some…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/20 11:04 AM
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You must be new here. :D Political lesbians are as old as 2nd wave feminism.
/r/MensRights31/03/20 06:20 PM
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Please note that by no means am I a feminist. I just coincidentally use ancient feminist concern-troll talking points. If you have a specific complaint about this sub "shitting on women's rights." then it should be no problem for you to provide sauce.
/r/MensRights31/03/20 06:18 PM
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[You fail] to recognise the responsibility that women had during that time as the handling of society was left to the women of many countries during World War One in which many of these countries still didn’t allow women to vote Men couldn't vote. Not as a whole. Women were not fighting and dying during WW1. Prominent suffragettes formed the 'white feather girls' shaming men into going off to fight. When volinteers couldn't fill the need for soldiers, it was men (and only men) who were drafted. …
/r/AntiFeminists29/03/20 06:44 PM
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IIRC, if you count US-only prisons, there are more men raped each year than women world-wide.
/r/AntiFeminists28/02/20 08:13 PM
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What /r/MensRights claims to be vs some f'd up idea of what it really is posts link from /r/MTOW as evidence. I can do that, too. r/PicuresOfFlowers is ALL about having sex with goats! Check out this link from r/GoatPorking! /s Dear lord, I hope the second isn't a real sub. I'm not gonna check. [edit to add] I searched 'Skyler' AND 'breaking bad' in both r/MGTOW and r/Mensrights. Guess what, couldn't find this thread anywhere.
/r/MensRights24/02/20 04:14 PM
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I think the women's movement is due an alternative to feminism. There WAS one, in the 60s. It was called Women's Lib, but then it got taken over by people pushing a specific political ideology. Same as what has happened to Gay rights, atheism, open source software, autism and, lately, trans rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/20 11:12 PM
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You forgot to add that 1 in 3 victims of violence are women and that 19% of journalists killed last year were female.
/r/MensRights13/02/20 10:28 PM
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Aaaand? Apparently a feminist has been hired to write a sequel to a financially well-performing, but otherwise totally "meh" film. Curious how you think this is a Mens Rights issue?
/r/MensRights13/01/20 10:39 PM
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"I can't argue against your point with facts and logic, so I'll resort to dismissing your argument by attacking YOU."
/r/MensRights10/01/20 10:10 AM
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and...? Waiting to see why this is a men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights06/01/20 08:53 AM
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shit article from Buzzfeed Well, that really narrows it down...
/r/MensRights19/11/19 07:50 PM
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When men do horrible things - We Demonize. FTFY
/r/MensRights18/10/19 02:59 PM
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Feminists? Responsibility? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwSts2s4ba4
/r/MensRights11/10/19 07:47 PM
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It is no exaggeration to say that it is now considered a borderline if not actual criminal offence to approach a woman unsolicited and take the risk to ask them out or even just talk to them. I wanna ding for hyperbole... but then there's this thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/dfxj4d/shy_and_awkward_student_19_who_googled_how_to/
/r/MensRights10/10/19 08:08 PM
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Learn to fucking read, will you? I never said that men don't face issues. I said that using feminist language, ie 'oppression', to discuss thoise isssues means ceding a large part of the argument by allowing feminists to dictate the language of the argument.
/r/MensRights10/10/19 05:20 PM
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Hey, guess what? Thank to feminist BS over 'oppression' FGM is legal in the US as well. The first case over anti FGM laws fell apart because the judge noted that because the law only protected girls, it failed to cover ALL people and was therefore unconstitutional. Still want to argue 'oppression' or should we perhaps try to not parse which kids are acceptable targets for mutilation based on their genitalia?
/r/MensRights10/10/19 03:10 PM
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FWIW, yeah. I have. My point is NOT that everything is peachy for men. My point is that CALLING the shitty situation men are in OPPRESSION is buying into the feminist PoV. We should reject the premise of the question, "are men (or women) oppressed?" because we implicitly cede the basis of the debate if we get into an argument over who is more or less oppressed. There's no way to measure oppression, so no way to compare. All we end up with is a screaming match betwen ideologues. Frex, look at cir…
/r/MensRights10/10/19 02:56 PM
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Men ARE NOT oppressed. That's a bullshit feminist idea that somehow society is defined as oppressor/oppressed and that line is drawn by sex. Men and women traditionally have had DIFFERENT rights and responsibilities, usually based on who gets to stay in the warm and face the dangers of childbirth, and who gets to go outside and face the dangers of the envirnoment/animals/enemies. It's only in the last century that technology has advanced to the point that those dangers are pretty much zero for a…
/r/MensRights10/10/19 02:20 PM
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In a way, this is typical of feminist bullshit... in that attacks the guys you meet, not the people creating the situation. Buildings have 'equity' codes for toilets. It has to be equal sqaure footage for men and women. The problem is that men's toilets have a mix of urinals and cubicles. The 'flow through' (excuse the pun) is much higher. Ladies' toilets are all cubicles, ie fewer possible 'customers' per square foot. Of COURSE ladies' loos are going to have queues in that case, but it ain't th…
/r/MensRights09/10/19 07:41 PM
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Seriously, when he gets old enough that he NEEDS to wash under his foreskin, your fight will be getting him to stop. There's a whole lotta nerve endings in that flap o' skin that plug right into the pleasure centre of your brain and moving it back and forth feels real good.
/r/MensRights08/10/19 10:38 PM
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Funnily (funny or I'll cry) enough, that's EXACTLY the same argument child molesters use when fucking boys: "If he wasn't into it, he wouldn't have got hard."
/r/AntiFeminists27/07/19 04:38 PM
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Signed... FWIW...
/r/MensRights26/07/19 12:21 PM
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Since when did 1 (ONE, count them! I dares ya!) become a brigade?
/r/MensRights24/07/19 06:43 PM
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This struck me as a really dodgy idea. Bascially, the cops can search an accuser's phone and use any evidence of crimes not related to the rape case to charge the 'victim'. Of course that's going to cause a fuss. I wonder if it was deliberate, as a move to block accusers' phone records completely.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 12:34 PM
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. It smells when it's uncut because I'm a lazy parent that can't be bothered washing him properly Who's getting that close to a baby's dick to SMELL it anyway?
/r/MensRights19/07/19 08:28 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_B [edit to add] Apparently /r/woooosh is thataways.
/r/MensRights16/07/19 08:39 PM
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Scary Spice?
/r/MensRights16/07/19 08:22 PM
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You mean that trivial technicality where a MAN may be found innocent of rape if he is, in fact, innocent of rape? The horror! Somebody fetch my smelling salts!
/r/MensRights15/07/19 11:38 AM
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If it is a chore, then it's the most fun chore by far. Certainly better than doing laundry.
/r/MensRights14/07/19 11:58 AM
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Of you? Not much. Not when you can't see when someone is posting a qualified agreement with you.
/r/MensRights14/07/19 01:00 AM
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This child hasn't hit puberty yet but he [IS] going through an irreversible medical procedure because a judge said so! (emphasis mine) You're claiming the kid is going through surgery NOW. Not right at this moment, of course, but round about the time I write this. Says "Future sex change surgery" right there bud. Might want consider reading before ranting (emphasis mine) There is a meaningful difference between NOW and FUTURE. Might want consider reading before ranting Glass houses
/r/MensRights13/07/19 12:57 PM
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irreversible medical procedure O RLY? What procedure would that be? Because I don't see any mention of 'medical procedures' reversible or otherwise in the post. The use of the scary phrase 'chemical castration' is worrying. The most a responsible doctor would do is prescribe puberty blockers, and that only when the child is nearing puberty and until the kid is mature enough to make a more informed decision to transition or not, at which point hormone/surgical therapies. That said, and I'm 100% F…
/r/MensRights13/07/19 12:10 PM
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I kinda think "yes but". Critical Theory started to come to the fore on the left when academics could no longer deny the abuses of communism. So they applied Marxist theories of history and economics to art, literature, race, etc etc. 'Feminism' is an example of this, applying Marxist theory and that whole 'oppressor/oppressed' view, to sex roles. They (Critical Theorists) missed the boat with Civil Rights, but did a great job with BLM. They managed to subvert gay rights, destroyed atheism, ruin…
/r/MensRights12/07/19 10:57 AM
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If you think sex has nothing to do with emotional relationships... perhaps there's a reason you're not getting either. (general you, not /u/vicious_armbar specifically)
/r/MensRights11/07/19 06:20 PM
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Like anybody's going to offer her disrespect. :)
/r/MensRights11/07/19 10:18 AM
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The term 'incel' was invented by a woman when she created an online space for 'people', not MEN or WOMEN, who couldn't form relationships: http://archive.is/AK4LG
/r/MensRights11/07/19 10:17 AM
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No mention of TheRedPill either. And no 'accidental' conflation of MRAs with PUAs. Whatever happened to journalism? /s [edit to add] Reading the abstract of the original report (thanks to https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cbkjhg/another_data_mining_study_slams_the_manosphere/etg8gfh/), apparently they looked at "seven online communities on Reddit, with openly misogynistic members". Weird, I though WE were the openly misogynistic ones? (y'know that whole, "not being 100% convinced that…
/r/MensRights10/07/19 07:49 PM
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For next trick, she's going to design something that stops women dumping their bags all over the seats.
/r/MensRights10/07/19 02:33 PM
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If one were feeling cynical, one might wonder what would be the response if 6 nurses had died while the 'safety commission' dicked non-gender-specific-genitalia-ed around with quotas? If one were feeling cynical... [edit to correct penis]
/r/MensRights08/07/19 06:34 PM
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A civilized society is one which moved beyond biology. Jesus H tapdancing Christ. You sound like a fucking feminist. 'Move beyond biology' What the hell is the source for this asinine claim? Name one society that has managed to move 'beyond biology'. We don't beat each other up anymore. No. We just throw gays off roofs, or call in drone strikes. How many times are you going to read this before you understand it? You are NOT oppressed because women aren't interested in you. You continually state …
/r/MensRights07/07/19 06:04 PM
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What can MRA's do: Get governments to fund campaigns chastising women for making men make the first move. Get governments to fund campaigns telling women that they have higher earning potentials over men nowadays and that they should stop thinking they have a God given right to marry a man who is more successful than them. In your expert opinion, should MRAs do that before or after: closing the education gap so boys don't fall further behind girls ensuring equal treatment for male and female vic…
/r/MensRights06/07/19 08:36 PM
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OK I will reserve judgement until the courts have spoken, but I suspect he's guilty of no more than trading sex for favours. We need an MRM-friendly party period. They certainly need to be tightened. The first approach shouldn't be considered harassment, how else are you supposed to know if an approach is welcome or not? Any further, asumming a rejection, would certainly count. Perhaps, but the point is that a minor cannot legally consent, so kinda by defintion it is rape ie sex without consent.…
/r/MensRights06/07/19 06:01 PM
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Firstly, the fact you are using 'work' as a metaphor for 'relationships' is worrying. It's not a job, FFS. Then you go on to say 'entry level job' as if your whole plan is to get that first lover, then trade up. Do you REALLY think that attitude to relationships is going to be a winner? Do you really think ANY person is going to be won over by someone who only looks at them as a stepping stone to someone hot? Then again: The reason single people complain is that they do all these things and are …
/r/MensRights06/07/19 05:54 PM
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There's two answers to that: Yes. But don't forget how incels'll bitch and moan when they get dating advice, because that's a lot easier than actually improving themselves. Case in point, look at how OP had a hissy fit when I told him to take a shower. In actuality, I was more talking about how feminists will use 'incel' as an ad hominem. Incels are, apparently, the new 'whiny pissbabies', which were in turn the new 'misogynists, before that 'male chauvinist pigs'. God I miss the 70s.
/r/MensRights06/07/19 02:48 PM
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You (should) have the right to want love, sex, companionship, affection. You (should) have the right to want all those things and not be demonised for it. 'Toxic masculinity' and all that crap? The way feminists attack 'incels'? The way they demonise male sexuality and desire? Those are men's issues. What you don't have, and I cannot think of reasonable argument why you should, is the right to have a relationship. Yeah, dating is hard. Meeting women is hard. Impressing women is hard. Boo fucking…
/r/MensRights06/07/19 01:33 PM
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I think they should have left it up, because it deserves being debunked. Considering the MRM position (as far as I understand it) is that 'we' (as much as we are a WE) do not agree with feminism's oppressor/oppressed dichotomy. Men adn women have, historically, had differing rights and responsibilities. That does not mean that one sex had it 'better' or 'worse'. Different gender roles are a necessity for survival in a pre-technological society. It's only in the last hundred years that mechanisat…
/r/MensRights06/07/19 12:31 PM
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Archive? Can't read this in the EU.
/r/MensRights06/07/19 12:19 PM
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Have Feminists ever called out women for upholding restrictive notions of masculinity and male expectations? Let me think... https://youtu.be/pBrU9laptGI
/r/MensRights05/07/19 03:27 PM
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You're welcome. Seccondly, absolutely. Routine infant circumcision should be banned, for all children, PERIOD. Otherwise one is just parsing which kids can be mutilated based on their genitalia.
/r/MensRights04/07/19 11:18 AM
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The ruling: https://content-static.detroitnews.com/pdf/2018/US-v-Nagarwala-dismissal-order-11-20-18.pdf The defendants argued: on the grounds that Congress lacked authority to enact § 116(a) (“the FGM statute”). Defendants argue that Congress may exercise legislative authority only to the extentallowed by the Constitution, and that the only potentially applicable sources of congressional power– the Necessary and Proper Clause and the Commerce Clause3 – do not grant it authority to prohibit FGM. …
/r/MensRights04/07/19 07:34 AM
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And the first trial based on those laws collapsed. The judge noted that the laws were unconstitutional because they did not provide equal protection.
/r/MensRights03/07/19 04:09 PM
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skimmed the video just to see if Oliver addressed anything of a controversial nature or even of substance Such optimism.
/r/MensRights03/07/19 04:05 PM
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Oh, so male rape is OK then? And obviously malicious accusations aren't a rpoblem either. /s
/r/MensRights03/07/19 03:13 PM
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Read the fucking article, Updoot for your optimism.
/r/MensRights02/07/19 12:00 PM
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I want a t-shirt that says, "Feminist are stupid. Throw facts at them"
/r/MensRights02/07/19 11:48 AM
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Where have I "blamed feminism for all mens problems"? Feminism didn't make specialised sex roles in stone age cultures that have endured even though technology has made them almost obsolete. Feminism didn't invent military conscription (although they didn't help, what with the White Feather Girls and all that). Feminism didn't invent circumcision. Then again, feminist screeching HAS hindered efforts to get it stopped. Amusingly enough, that same feminist reeee actually hindered efforts to stop F…
/r/MensRights01/07/19 08:23 PM
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Funnily enough, the first time I heard the phrase 'intactivist' was from my ex-wife who considers herself a feminist. Interestingly enough, she got polio from a bad vaccine, but our son got all his shots. But that's by-the-by. It's interesting that you say the MRM fits into feminism. The modern incarnation is, after all, very influenced by a former high-ranking member of the National Organisation of Women, Warren Farell. In many ways, the modern MRM's position could be stated as, "let's ensure t…
/r/MensRights01/07/19 08:04 PM
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LOL! OP seems to think there's some essential difference between a group of men and women trying to raise awareness of mens' issues, and a bunch of guys trying to get laid. /s
/r/MensRights01/07/19 04:55 PM
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Is this the new 'party line', that MRAs are SJWs? Seems a bit odd for two 'separate' accounts to suddenly pop up making that point.
/r/MensRights01/07/19 04:47 PM
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Then brush up on your makeup skills.
/r/MensRights01/07/19 04:44 PM
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Usually when people come to this sub for information it's because they feel screwed over in some way and want to vent. So they do and then they get it out of their system and start seeking wiser solutions to their problems. Or we get the feminist trolls thinking their gotcha post is going to completely destroy our tiny male minds and convince us all to join the sisterhood... except we've heard (and debunked) them a million times already. Sometimes it's concern trolls, "if you weren't so angry, f…
/r/MensRights01/07/19 04:36 PM
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If.
/r/MensRights01/07/19 04:25 PM
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And here you are, bickering over trivia and wilfully ignoring the fact that, worldwide, men make up 80% of suicides. This, THIS RIGHT HERE, is a perfect example of the BS mindset that dismisses men's problems and the MRM.
/r/MensRights01/07/19 04:03 PM
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And what is the proposed punishment for female child molesters? Apart from community service and a future spot on Oprah, of course.
/r/MensRights01/07/19 11:55 AM
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So unless you behave like an 'ideal innocent person' in the eyes of r/TwoXChromosomes if you are male, you are to be presumed guilty? FTFY
/r/MensRights01/07/19 11:05 AM
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Nice try, but no. I didn't finish the video because I 'knew it was correct'. I stopped watching because it was full of long debunked talking points, special pleading, strawmanning, misconceptions and outright lies. FWIW I watched as far as I did because I was hoping he was starting with the BS, only to sneakily slip in some genuinely researched and supported facts. Didn't happen.
/r/MensRights01/07/19 10:54 AM
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Considering that it's the big feminist organisations that push for changes in the law I'm not really impressed with YOUR self-identified 'good' feminism. Why don't YOU criticise feminism, from your position as 'one of them'? It's a rhetorical question, I know exaclty why. It's because you know that you will be excoriated by the sisterhood if you do. You and I don't want the same thing. I don't want to dismantle some 'Patriarchy' boogieman, because I do not believe such a thing exists. I don't wa…
/r/MensRights01/07/19 10:51 AM
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MRA's were involved in the production One person getting an associate producer credit as a kickstarter reward doesn't mean that "MRAs were involved in the production" except in the loosest, 'provided some funding' sense. The point he's making is that if a women built like a tank wants to be a firefighter then she should be allowed to be a firefighter. A woman built like a tank should have no problem with passing the strength/fitness requirements then. Guess that would mean less male suicide in c…
/r/MensRights01/07/19 09:00 AM
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Guess who wants to change that culture? ding ding, it's feminism! And the prize for Bullshitter of the Week goes to you. Which political movement has pressured lawmakers in several countries to write laws that specifically exclude male rape victims? Hint, it isn't vegans. I'm a feminist, further to the left than your average liberal feminist, and I genuinely and sincerely want harmful gender expectations to stop weighing down on men's psyches and causing demonstrable harm to them. So every big f…
/r/MensRights01/07/19 08:56 AM
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Research? I love your optimism.
/r/MensRights01/07/19 08:44 AM
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Because I hate you all, I'm going to suggest a drinking game. Take a drink whenever he says something where he's: Mistaken, but obviously not bothered to actually research Misled, parroting feminist talking points we've heard a million times already. Flat out lying Using the phrase 'manosphere' Seriously,though... DON'T! You'll die of alcohol poisoning. I'm currently at 2:04 and had to take a break at he claim that MRAs "released a documentary called, 'The Red Pill'." [edit to add] 4:42 Apparent…
/r/MensRights30/06/19 05:35 PM
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Yes, but if he says, "I would never rape anyone", that is how you know you're dealing with a rapist. /s
/r/MensRights30/06/19 04:23 PM
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It's almost like the patriarchy is a necessary just-so story Just-so stories are totally different from Patriarchy Theory. One is a naive post-hoc fantasy creating implausible explanations for natural phenomena, the other was written by Rudyard Kipling.
/r/MensRights30/06/19 12:23 PM
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Your first point was that: "Men had it better than women for thousands of years after civilization started." Sauce? But then you go on to argue: "No, BOTH sexes were required to work to keep themselves and their children alive." What point are you trying to make? That men had it better, or that both sexes had it bad? AFAIk, the MRM position is that, histtorically, men and women had different privileges and responsibilities. NOT that one had it better. When did men "have it better"? In the 18th/1…
/r/MensRights30/06/19 09:29 AM
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that'll never happen. Because women aren't fucking psychpaths. FTFY
/r/MensRights29/06/19 05:40 PM
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AKA trying to explain the reality of the MRM?
/r/MensRights29/06/19 05:36 PM
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Hollywood actresses gotta get their face creams from SOMEWHERE.
/r/MensRights29/06/19 11:33 AM
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ask her watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikd0ZYQoDko
/r/MensRights29/06/19 10:13 AM
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One could argue that since, at one time, by law wives could not be raped by husbands that feminists should have just shut up about it. That's obviously nonsense, just because something is not recognised by law does not mean it is not a problem and should not be addressed. The fact that feminists fought to make certain acts illegal undermines her whole argument. Voting rights for women, equal pay for women, equal rights for racial minorities, gay marriage. These are all examples of things that we…
/r/MensRights29/06/19 10:11 AM
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ROFLSHIP! Let me get this straight... a police officer, the ultimate symbol of 'White Cishet Patriarchy'TM said something she will accept without question? I wonder why? Perhaps because this alleged officer's statement agreed with her pre-conceptions? What she is doing is arguing from authority, even more ironic as that authority is alleged to be anttithetical to feminism. Ultimately, what she is saying is that male victims do not exist, purely by definition which is, as I said, laughable. I wou…
/r/MensRights28/06/19 02:02 PM
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What does she mean by "does not exist"? As some have pointed out, in some countries the laws are written in such a way that male victims do not, by definition, exist. That's such a non-argument, it's laughable. Is she arguing that males are never victimised? Then why is it a running joke that criminals will be raped in prison, for example?
/r/MensRights28/06/19 12:28 PM
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Toxic masculinity by definition refers to the restraint that men have due to social norms being pushed onto them, such as boys shouldnt show emotion, etc etc. That's the big problem 'we' (as much as such a diverse group can be a 'we') have with 'toxic masculinity'. That is not the ONLY definition. The whole concept of 'Toxic Masculinity' is an exemplar of what is called the 'Motte and Bailey' doctrine; succinctly it is a dishonest form of argument where a person proposes a controversial idea (th…
/r/MensRights27/06/19 06:38 PM
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And? There ARE FtM trans people, who may still need tampons/pads but aren't willing to enter the ladies' room. As long as it's not accompanied by anti-male, pro-Critical Gender Theory nosense, and is quietly there then I don't see the problem.
/r/MensRights27/06/19 05:40 PM
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Oh look, another shit post from a tradcon.
/r/MensRights27/06/19 05:34 PM
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I dunno if you noticed, but in the first 3 films they had a black actor. I know, it's one of those "blink and you'll miss him" things... /s
/r/MensRights24/06/19 06:54 PM
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Then OP can defend his position. Isn't robust, "reals before feels" debate what this sub is all about? Isn't that how we differentiate ourselves from feminist subs? You don't own this sub either. Any and all of us are free to call out BS if we see it. What's so difficult to understand about that?
/r/MensRights24/06/19 06:45 PM
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Yes, they did, Linda Fiorentino's character and Emma Thompson was head of MiB in number 3.
/r/MensRights24/06/19 06:22 PM
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And I'm sick of people posting links to some woman doing something they somehow disagree with no discussion of its relevance to the MRM. Frex, this post: https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/c4sfiq/men_in_black_is_no_longer_men_in_black_for_the/ Are we supposed to forget that at the end of the first film Linda Fiorentino's character became an MiB, or that Emma Thompson was head of the MiB in the third film? Why? Because it doesn't fit the narrative? If OP is making a point, perhaps they'…
/r/MensRights24/06/19 06:19 PM
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aaand... what? A woman marries into a VERY wealthy family and accumulates $765,000 worth of bling. This article seems off. It compares Markle to Middleton purely on number of pieces, including the fact that Middleton has ONE ring worth $382,000. Is the problem that Markle appears to have gone for quantity over quality? So what? Thing is, any way you slice it this has fuck all to do with men's right.
/r/MensRights24/06/19 11:54 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_children Apparently, a few years back, a lot of parents were convinced their children were so special and magical they had a uniquely coloured aura. Yes, you read that right. My worry is parents pushing the kids into things just to make themself look good, to win them "woke parent" points. Frex, a while back there was a post on Reddit where a 13 year old boy was being pressured into sex by his mom's friend's 17 year old son, and the mom was absolutely aghast …
/r/MensRights23/06/19 04:41 PM
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Usually, when this sub discusses trans kids I argue on the side of supporting their transition. I do that from my understanding of the science and medical ethics; that the best thing to do for a trans adolescent is therapy, hormone blockers, and then when they are adult enough to make an informed decision hormones and possibly SRS. AFAIK the majority of trans children 'grow out of it', but the majority of trans teens do go on to transition. This THIS is exactly the opposite. This is manipulating…
/r/MensRights22/06/19 09:24 PM
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No.
/r/MensRights18/06/19 07:09 PM
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A few years back there was an article decrying the sexism of indie film festivals for only awarding 25% of the awards to women. Obvious sexism, amirite? Checking the stats, it turned out that women only made up 25% of the ENTRANTS. Totally on par. Indie film making is a risk. There's no big money, no studio support; only your drive and ambition. STATISTICALLY women TEND to be more risk averse than men. Ergo, less likely to make an indie film. They also TEND to prefer the 'life' side of the 'work…
/r/AntiFeminists09/06/19 04:57 PM
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I ask Joe if I can do his birth chart. He says I can, so I go onto Cafe Astrology and work it out for him, sharing some of his characteristics: stubborn, stoical, likes pleasure and the arts, might easily get a bruised ego if not "heard". (emphasis mine) There's a term for this, the Barnum Effect, when you throw out vague statments that could apply to anyone as 'proof' of whatever pseudo-scientific woo you want to sell to suckers. Does this apply to you, dear reader? You have a great need for ot…
/r/MensRights08/06/19 09:12 PM
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Wilkinson Sword/Schick aren't owned by Procter & Gamble (the co that owns Gillette).
/r/MensRights08/06/19 07:32 PM
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Hmmm... the MRM worries about: Male victims of rape Victims of malicious rape accusations Male disposability The unfairness of draft/selective service laws Routine infant circumcision Male suicide Male homelessness The inequitable nature of DV laws, the presumption of guilt on the part of men The lack of provision for male victims of DV Finding it hard to get a date is ridiculously low on the list of problems that men face. Here's one piece of information you appear to have missed. When people (…
/r/MensRights07/06/19 05:19 PM
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If you think men being raped is a source of humour, you're in the wrong sub.
/r/MensRights07/06/19 02:50 PM
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Ah... Brislington. What a shit hole. A hive of scum and villainy, same sort of people who'd attack a pediatrician because 'ped'. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/aug/30/childprotection.society
/r/MensRights07/06/19 02:50 PM
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ITT /r/woosh
/r/MensRights07/06/19 02:42 PM
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Simple test: Did a man say it? Then it's sexist.
/r/MensRights05/06/19 10:55 PM
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i do believe that it is vital to have this knowledge out there as a means to put an end to toxic masculinity Fuck off. 'Toxic masculinity' is a bullshit phrase used to discreddit ALL men for the alleged infractions of a minority. All the 'problems' lumped in under 'toxic masculinity' already have perfectly adequate and gender neutral terms, like bully frex. Anything and everything lumped under 'toxic masculinity' is acted out by men and women. Yes, a minority of women, but a minority of men as w…
/r/MensRights05/06/19 10:54 PM
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Ditch hunting and learn to cook. Huh? I never knew it was common to take 'Teh Little Lady'TM with you on a camping trip. /s FFS the Nuge released a cook book. Don't fight and learn to mediate. There are some people who are just assholes, you ain't gonna negotiate with some scrotum who thinks he's Chuck Norris. Don't fix your own car, learn to code? It's possible to do both. Heck, even if coding always paid better, how much of that would you be losing to pay someone else to maintain your car? Don…
/r/MensRights25/05/19 11:18 AM
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Shouldn’t Title IX have to go both ways? Hey check out this guy! /s
/r/MensRights04/05/19 05:09 PM
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right leaning ? You can stereotype/caricature/smear the right as much as you want and nobody bats an eye. Could you imagine a politician attacking a whole demographic (republican voters) as "deplorables" and getting away with it? Especially if they're working class. Look at the way nice, white bread, 'progressive' people talk about rednecks (or Chavs in the UK).
/r/MensRights26/04/19 07:42 AM
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A counter point: There are cases of young children expressing a desire to be the opposite sex, not growing out of it by puberty, and then going on to transition. It CAN and DOES happen, but they are a tiny minority of children. A link to my comment, 'cos I had the stats: https://old.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/4us2yc/better_not_let_anyone_go_through_puberty_just_to/d5t9f6l/?context=3 There are approx 120,000 trans teens in the US, so it's a non-zero amount, but not a massive number eith…
/r/MensRights21/04/19 06:22 PM
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Well, how does a 4 year old boy "know" he's a boy? As far as I am aware, most pre-pubescent trans kids grow out of it. Then again some don't and the majority (again AFAIK) of pubescent trans kids go on to transition fully. So... assuming the kid is allowed to (socially) detransition if required, what's the problem? You want to to argue about the issue of trans activists (not trans people who simply want to switch gender, aware they can't change their biological sex) pushing doctors to diagnose a…
/r/MensRights20/04/19 07:51 PM
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then killed himself because he was mentally ill O RLY? From the article: Alex was an intelligent and popular 23-year-old with no history of mental illness. Unless you're going to take the position that committing suicide is, prima facie, evidence of mental illness your point is nonsense.
/r/MensRights17/04/19 07:43 PM
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More mainstream source: http://archive.is/yDzgE So... seriously, why is this on this sub? A FtM student posts a pic from the boys' toilet. Some guys get pissy and try to enter the girls' toilet to take a pic in some form of 'protest'. Girl feels threatened (or just full of 'righteous anger at Teh Patriarchy^<sup>TM</sup> and attacks one of the boys. Girl gets expelled. So girl attacks boyt and gets expelled. Surely that's what we want to happen? Rules/laws to be followed regardless of the sex/ge…
/r/MensRights17/04/19 12:12 PM
1

From their 'About' page: Founded in New York City in 2008, BroBible is the ultimate lifestyle destination for millennial men. Of course they're going to trade in insults and shaming. Guys with beards aren't buying the expensive shaving products their advertisers are trying to sell.
/r/MensRights12/04/19 02:45 PM
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Start way back with the Suffragettes. No, they did NOT get women the vote. In the UK at least, they were part of the wider suffragist movement which aimed to extend voting to ALL citizens. At the time there was a property qualification to vote, this disenfranchised approx 40% of men. After WW1, where millions of men died who could NOT vote on the policies that sent them to their deaths, the vote was extended to ALL men over 21 and ALL women over 30. In 1929 the vote was extended to ALL women ove…
/r/MensRights28/03/19 05:24 PM
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As a cis hetero man, I can assure you that most men are trashy trash McTrshface and you should not trust them.. except me. I'm totally wonderful, I'll worship you as a goddess. Please let me do 'Teh Sex'TM to you, pretty please, I promise I won't bother you with boundaries or expectation to contribute meaningfully to a relationship, I just wanna put my pee-pee in your front bottom. FTFY /s
/r/MensRights25/03/19 09:40 PM
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Maybe some women want to be treated like that? You must be new here. Feminism is ALL ABOUT giving women the freedom to make the 'correct choices'.
/r/MensRights20/03/19 05:07 PM
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Because some of the big hurdles MRAs face are: a) lack of empathy for men and b) the 'women are wonderful' effect. There are plenty of posts around from femininsts stating men have no emotions or "LOL male tears!", that boys can't be sexually abused because males do not have the emotional capacity to feel the pain. The relevance of this story is firstly, it shows a counter to point b. Women are not wonderful. Sure, that doesn't mean all women suck, but some do. Secondly, the murderer killed the …
/r/MensRights19/03/19 09:57 PM
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This is a farcically ridiculous analogy. The two images are totally different, to the point any comparison is meaningless. One is a picture of a slimy, cold blooded creature that is almost lethally toxic and should be avoided at all costs. The other picture is a frog.
/r/MensRights13/03/19 06:23 PM
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And while men's rights activists hold up women's studies programs and affirmative action as evidence of discrimination against white men, to make that argument, you'd have to ignore that women have had more difficulty competing in academia and the workforce, especially in certain fields, like science, tech, engineering, and math. And to make THAT argument, you have to ignore that women are over represented in just about every other field.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 04:28 PM
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But it's 'good rape', apparently...
/r/MensRights09/03/19 01:18 PM
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Re-read the title.
/r/MensRights08/03/19 01:26 PM
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So yeah just out of curiosity are you guys aware of the subreddit r/againstmensrights ? Meh. Old news. I'm more worried about the sub that, apparently, wants to stop men using the number between 7 and 9.
/r/MensRights08/03/19 12:54 PM
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FFS, that's Aloy from Horizon Zero Dawn
/r/MensRights08/03/19 12:49 PM
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Class? Can'thave the consumers noticing THAT.
/r/MensRights07/03/19 11:37 PM
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I was gonna take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...
/r/MensRights07/03/19 02:16 PM
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"...you as a woman don't get to tell men that toxic masculinity is bullshit. Toxic feminity is called internalized misogyny but is basically the same thing" O RLY? I would've said that, as a woman, you don't get to tell men that toxic masculinity IS NOT bullshit.
/r/MensRights06/03/19 09:57 PM
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Let me get this straight correct: Trans women aren't real, because biology do real Sex roles can't be genetic in any way, because biology don't real Help, I are confuzzled.
/r/MensRights06/03/19 03:52 PM
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Dunno what the big deal is. It's not like proxy violence is REAL violence. Nobody got hurt (at least nobody with a vagoo). /s
/r/MensRights06/03/19 03:49 PM
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Yes, but this is /r/MensRights, not /r/SuperHeroMovies. The value of this dicussion here is how the press has, previously, puffed up Captain Marvel as being 'Citizen Kane in Spandex, With Boobs' and any criticism as being based in misogyny. The fact is that the MSM reviewers are actually stating, flat out, that the film is not that good. This is not a repeat of Ghostbusters, where the screeching continued even when we could see what a steaming turd that film was.
/r/MensRights06/03/19 11:43 AM
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Archive for the actual, y'know, ARTICLE: http://archive.is/s7KAM
/r/MensRights06/03/19 11:33 AM
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You must be new here...
/r/MensRights04/03/19 09:57 PM
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She was posting anti-SJW (somewhat) MRA content for a long time, until the harpies chased her off social media with death threats, doxxing and some light stalking.
/r/MensRights02/03/19 09:44 PM
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It's like the old joke: Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he can get away from his wife for the whole weekend. Alternatively: Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
/r/MensRights02/03/19 03:28 PM
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Ah, the old "there'd be no wars if women ruled the world" argument. Because NO female leader EVER started wars, apparently.
/r/MensRights02/03/19 01:42 PM
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So men aren't necessarily toxic, as long as they are willing to put on the uniform and pick up a gun. Not really a massive turn around; just marketing male disposability.
/r/MensRights02/03/19 12:11 PM
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Must be the first politician to actually follow through on a campaign promise...
/r/MensRights01/03/19 11:15 PM
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Yes, but men are 'privileged' so they don't have the experience of sexism that women do. Hatred against oppressor groups is NOT negative, it is morally justifiable as it is an effort to dirupt and transform bigoted social constructs ...or some such BS. The trick for OP is to find an effective counter argument to that, before the 'neckbeard incel misogynist' screeching starts.
/r/MensRights01/03/19 04:30 PM
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Checked out the twitter thread and I love this comment, re Obama: I love we had a black president but we’re still waiting for the first African American one. The guy's father was born in Kenya FFS. He still has close family in 'the old country'. How much more 'African' can one get and still be president? Or is the old 'crabs in a bucket' thing again?
/r/MensRights01/03/19 04:21 PM
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Alot of the stuff we used to get upset with the bad feminism we are now doing. Such as? Got any actual examples of posts from 'the good old days'TM vs the, alleged, current horror show?
/r/MensRights24/02/19 07:42 PM
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So how does this belong here? Simple answer. It doesn't.
/r/MensRights24/02/19 11:43 AM
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I said that "Mens Rights Activist" has come to mean mysogynist, somehow. I love the 'somehow'. It is deliberate. Look at any article on the 'manosphere'. You will see MRAs being conflated with MGTOW (men going their own way), PUA (pick up artists), incels (who are, themselves, painted as Satan incarnate). You will see even the mildest MRA (such as Warren Farell, who used to LEAD a National Orhanization of Women chapter) smeared as being similar to Anders Brevik or Elliot Rogers. You will see gen…
/r/MensRights22/02/19 04:20 PM
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Well yes, women ARE objectively more attractive than men IF (and it's a really big IF) you are a non-straight woman or a non-gay man. I mean, c'mon FFS... hairy chests, big muscles, deep voices, dicks... UGH! Otherwise it is the case that MEN are objectively more attractive than women. I mean, c'mon FFS... hairless chests, small muscles, high voices, tits... UGH!
/r/MensRights19/02/19 04:22 PM
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Not necessarily true AFAIK. Some states have laws that convicted felons can't vote. Those laws are not currently being enforced but, again AFAIK, scotus has found such laws to be constitutional.
/r/MensRights16/02/19 08:23 AM
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No. In fact I'd argue that people , not just women, have become (possibly dangerously) LESS materialistic, more airy-fairy idealistic over the last few decades. I'd suggest the world could do with MORE peopple with their feet solidly planted in reality and what it takes to earn a living.
/r/MensRights09/02/19 01:07 AM
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One point you might want to raise is, the original dress was black and blue. The white/gold one was mocked up after the whole thing went viral. Ie it's fake. The South African Salvation Army used the fake for this campaign.
/r/MensRights09/02/19 12:37 AM
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Sucks, but NOT a Mens Rights issue.
/r/MensRights04/02/19 06:44 PM
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It's crazy. Whether it's judges striking down sexist laws or 'Pesky Natives'TM unable to wrap their heads around the double standards of anti -FGM activists, the unequal treatment of FGM and MGM actually allows FGM, or at least hampers efforts to fight it. EVERYONE has some skin in this game.
/r/MensRights03/02/19 04:29 PM
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I've been thinking about this... from the sound of it, it's possible OP is probably a lance corporal and possibly recently promoted. I don't know for sure, but IF that is the case then there may be a couple of points to make (and I'm going to talk about 'you', but I mean this generally, not pointed AT OP): You are not their mate. You're not there to be chummy with them (sure, there's always going to be some back-and-forth among colleagues). If you're on duty, you are in command. IF you are newly…
/r/MensRights03/02/19 04:05 PM
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Apparently the modern woman prefers a man with really shitty taste in underwear... and made of chocolate. Apart from that, not much really. Why?
/r/MensRights02/02/19 11:19 PM
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That is, unfortunately, also a possibility.
/r/MensRights02/02/19 10:11 PM
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This isn't a sexual assault allegation, though. Even if there were a sexual component, it's striking a superioir officer.
/r/MensRights02/02/19 09:32 PM
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Are you implying that people are rushing to judgement over a selectively edited video clip? Say it ain't so... /s
/r/MensRights02/02/19 03:17 PM
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Unfortunately not. A judge recently dismissed the first FGM trial in the US for the following reason: The treaty on which the government relies in the present case is the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (“ICCPR”), which the Senate ratified in 1992. Specifically, the government points to two provisions of this treaty: Article 3, which calls on the signatories to “ensure the equal right of men and women to the enjoyment of all civil and political rights set forth in the presen…
/r/MensRights02/02/19 02:00 PM
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Let me get this straight, this soldier has REPEATEDLY struck a superior officer? In front of witnesses? That sounds like a major breach of discipline. What is she going to do if you're under fire and you give an order she 'dislikes'? Because she appears to have demonstrated she has no respect for the chain of command.
/r/MensRights02/02/19 01:46 PM
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-39947017 You're right.
/r/MensRights02/02/19 01:41 PM
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Once it is shown that human rights >>>> religious rights then we can finally start convincing the public that MGM needs ban too. But you're derailing the conversation. LOL masculinity so fragile etc etc (cont p 94) FGM needs ban without any wiggle room. And we'll just ignore that little bit, 'cos it gets in the way of the narrative. /s
/r/MensRights01/02/19 09:29 PM
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I can kinda sympathise with the girl who'd been homeless. But... what about the student nurse who beat up some guy recently, or that student doctor who glassed someone? What about those situations where an offender has had all the benefits of growing up in a stable home and STILL commits violence? And, if we're going to have pity on the homeless girl, what about the homeless boys? Are THEY given all these options to stay out of prison? Who the fuck am I kidding?
/r/MensRights01/02/19 06:56 PM
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Aggression is easy. Civilized behaviour is difficult. It is the integration of aggression that is learned. And it is primarily men who teach it, particularly to aggressive boys. But, but, muh 'toxic masculinity'... /s
/r/MensRights01/02/19 06:42 PM
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Dunno why this belongs in this sub, except as an example of typical feminist spinning everything into sexism... Still, the film has Emma Thompson getting pushed out by her new FEMALE boss, while the men in the show (the writers Thompson can't even bother to remember, the producer) try to keep her relevant. So they take on a diversity hire, who has "zero experience, unless you count cracking jokes over the P.A. at the chemical plant where she works" and... this is all proof of patriarchy, because…
/r/MensRights01/02/19 04:03 PM
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Because it isn't? I think it's the same line of thinking why feminists go ballistic over MGM/FGM comparisons. The reasonable thought goes: An issue affecting women is terrible It affects men too, therefore we should help men and women The deranged feminist thinking seems to go An issue affecting men is laughable This affects men and women, therefore The effect on women is laughable So when I (or any of us) point out male victims of rape, we are trying to say "this affects everyone, everyone need…
/r/AntiFeminists31/01/19 11:42 PM
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This is the issue imo, people get caught up in trying to compare them. Similar then, or analagous.
/r/MensRights30/01/19 09:50 PM
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caricatural http://kimcampion.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/IMG_0596-1024x768.jpg ???
/r/MensRights30/01/19 09:26 PM
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I've come to realise something about this issue. The rational line of thought goes: FGM is terrible MGM and FGM are comparable, therefore MGM is terrible I suspect a lot of the pro-MGM (for want of a better phrase) people think: MGM is trivial You say "MGM and FGM are comparable", therefore You are saying FGM is trivial
/r/MensRights30/01/19 09:19 PM
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From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitoral_hood In female human anatomy, the clitoral hood (also called preputium clitoridis and clitoral prepuce) is a fold of skin that surrounds and protects the glans (emphasis mine) of the clitoris; it also covers the external shaft of the clitoris, develops as part of the labia minora and is homologous with the foreskin (equally called prepuce) in male genitals. (emphasis mine) What is the glans? In women, it is the visible part of the clitoris, https://en…
/r/MensRights30/01/19 08:55 PM
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Oh do tell HOW they are different? Before you come back with claiming that FGM = removing the clitoris, only a fraction does. The WHO classifies FG< from Type 1, a pinprick, up to Type IV, rmoving the clitoris. So far, the only difference is that the term FGM covers a wider range of practices. Both are done for 'hygeine', to control sexuality, 'health' benefits. In fact, I challenge you to find a rationale for FGM that is not also used to justify MGM. Ironically, that type of 'comparitive suffer…
/r/MensRights30/01/19 05:48 PM
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Damien is a shameless chauvinist who has all the benefits of living in a patriarchal society. So, it starts in a fantasy world, then?
/r/MensRights30/01/19 05:31 PM
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Then you are playing RIGHT into feminist hands. FFS loook at the Covington kids, the BHI and Nathan Philips were trying to provoke those kids just so they could scream 'muh uhpreshunz!" It's not about being the bigger man. It's about responding effectively, and I do not believe accepting the underlying premise of 'toxic masculinity', that ALL (people of a certain sex) are evil and ALL evil people are (people of a certain sex), is effective.
/r/MensRights30/01/19 12:31 PM
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It's the reverse side of the same shit coin. Duh... that's EXACTLY what I said. Shining a spotlight on the fucked up things that some women do is sexist now? No. I think it's totally justifiable. The point being SOME... and the inequitable way society treats women who act badly vs men who behave EXACTLY the same way... or the way society will excuse a woman and place blame (and legal culpability) for HER actions on a man. I repeat - NO ONE has suggested using the new sub as a landing page for an…
/r/MensRights30/01/19 12:28 PM
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The official reason for legitimizing talking about "toxic femininity" is to fight off the "women are wonderful effect". If you (generally, not Zelda specifically) say, "all X are Y" (ie ALL women are WONDERFUL), the counter argument is not to say "all X are NOT Y" (ie all women are terrible). The correct counter argument is simply to demonstrate that SOME X are not Y (ie SOME women bully, harrass, assault, whatever). I absolutely defend posts along those lines in this sub for precisely that reas…
/r/MensRights30/01/19 12:34 AM
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We need to fight back in some manner Yes. I absolutely agree. there needs to be an opposite notion presented Toxic femininity is NOT the opposite notion. It is exactly the same notion, just inverted. this is a very benign way to do that. This is a very sexist way to fight back. It's playing directly into feminist hands. FFS they make up shit about us all the time, no good will come from making their job easier. Do you know the slogan, "Feminists are stupid, throw facts at them"? We fight back by…
/r/MensRights30/01/19 12:24 AM
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Toxic masculinity implies that someone is using their gender as an excuse to be a piece of shit. No it is NOT. FFS, did you read the APA guidelines for treating men and boys? Did you watch the Gillette ad? Did you read the criticism? The phrase is used by feminists to smear men. It is NOT used to obscure/excuse women's bad actions, it is used to HIDE them, to deny them. It's used to identify, frex, bullying with MEN. Women use their gender as an excuse to weaponize female privilege to hurt men. …
/r/MensRights30/01/19 12:18 AM
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Our criticism of 'toxic masculinity' rests on THAT point. That it uses the actions of individual men to smear all men. Simply turning the accusing finger to point at women doesn't make the 'logic' any different.
/r/MensRights29/01/19 04:14 PM
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I'd suggest it's a lot simpler: Are you me? No? You do not get to define my masculinity
/r/MensRights29/01/19 04:04 PM
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You're right. I was unclear. AFTER finding the squatted subs, you created a new one. When talking about "subs" you created, I meant THAT one. My apologies.
/r/MensRights29/01/19 03:54 PM
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I didn't "show up out of nowhere". I've been a poster and contributor here for a long time. Looking at your profile, your first post to this sub was 20 days ago: https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/adyxmc/meredith_vieira_sexually_harasses_a_navy_pilot_on/ Surely you can see why I said, "out of nowhere"? The point was NOT a ding on you, merely pointing out the strange timing that the concept seems never to been considered before in this sub, and suddenly there is a whole new sub (which, …
/r/MensRights29/01/19 03:49 PM
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So we cede the argument that 'toxic masculinity' is not a thing? Because talking about 'toxic feminity' does just that. It legitimises a bad argument used against men, by accepting the premise of that argument. Why not direct people to /r/pussyPass? Why link to, why refer people to, why legitimise a sub that does something we complain about as MRAs? Because it's pointing to the bad actions of a single WOMAN and claiming that action indicts ALL women, as if that's better because it's simply inver…
/r/MensRights29/01/19 12:59 PM
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I'm with /u/Lethn on this. It's a bad move. Firstly, we (as much as this sub can be 'we') have NEVER been interested in such a sub before. Recently, /u/stakesishigh012 turned up out of nowhere and started discussing a 'toxic femininity' sub and there was little to no response; no interest. He found that there were a number of subs that someone was 'cyber squatting' and then, two days ago, this /r/Toxic_Femininity was created, strangely as if in opposition to the subs /u/stakesishigh012 created a…
/r/MensRights29/01/19 11:35 AM
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It'd have to be something about Men. There'd have to be some indicator what the movement is about, Rights or Human Rights. We should also include a descriptor of what we aim to do... I dunno, the Activism. Hmmm... How about we call ourselves Men's Rights Activists? That has a nice ring to it.
/r/MensRights29/01/19 02:01 AM
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Since, as you say, "Public post history works both ways" feel free to go back through my post history and find all the places where I have made my position as a 'free speech absolutist' clear. Pro tip, look for places where I disuss Alex Jones. I was going to sarcastially suggest you look for places I have advocated censorship, but that would be taking the piss as I never have. /u/Goodmod has posted that absent certain conditions, such links belong in /r/Toxic_Femininity. I would not have even g…
/r/MensRights29/01/19 01:01 AM
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Perhaps you could tell me what I was implying? Or was it simply you inferring?
/r/MensRights29/01/19 12:52 AM
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From which I can deduce you didn't actually read my post.
/r/MensRights29/01/19 12:43 AM
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you make it out that people in this sub are making some form of claim or are implying that women in general are behaving like this. Really? Did you miss the bit where I explicitly stated: That's not to say ALL women do this, but that SOME do. Also: you yourself just went and put women on a pedestal making it out that it was some great travesty to talk about genuine criminals, paedophiles and scam artists and abusers. Where? The bit where I said that 'toxic masculinity' is a dishonest tactic to b…
/r/MensRights29/01/19 12:41 AM
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this generation of men, socialised to believe in a certain kind of masculinity, Can someone ELI5 this BS? When, and how, did ONE generation (in EVERY country, mind you) somehow get infected with self-sacrifice, ambition, stoicism, defending the weak... ie 'toxic masculinity'TM all at once? /s
/r/MensRights28/01/19 06:18 PM
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Feminists: "Yes! This is about equality of outcomes! Just because there's the same number of toilets, and even though women are equal to men, they aren't equal in this case because we have to sit down to pee." Nice try, but there aren't the 'same number of toilets'. Simple logic, cubicles take up more space than urinals. So for the same square footage, you get more 'flow through' for men than women. The code, at least in the UK, for parity is purely on AREA, not usage. You wanna talk about male …
/r/MensRights28/01/19 06:12 PM
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As the saying goes, you can't logic someone out of a position they didn't logic themself into. Still, I'm an optimist.
/r/MensRights28/01/19 06:06 PM
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She retorted with, but the sentence would have been most likely handed down by a man. Patriarchy theory (and the whole concept of privilege) is baased on the idea that MEN have organized society in such a way that it SOLELY benfits men and ALWAYS at the expense of women. If she claims a male judge is handing women more lenient sentences, then her own argument disproves the idea that men ALWAYS act at women's expense.
/r/MensRights27/01/19 10:40 PM
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It exists, and the ONLY post is your link to Return of Kings. So, apart from shilling your very own subreddit (assuming you can get ownership from /u/Bucklar) what is your point, and what is the relevance to this sub?
/r/MensRights27/01/19 12:30 AM
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From wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage The suffrage movement was a broad one, encompassing women and men with a wide range of views. In terms of diversity, the greatest achievement of the twentieth-century woman suffrage movement was its extremely broad class base. One major division, especially in Britain, was between suffragists, who sought to create change constitutionally, and suffragettes, led by English political activist Emmeline Pankhurst, who in 1903 formed the …
/r/MensRights25/01/19 02:28 PM
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It is definitely not my intent to throw men under the bus Well, that's for you to demonstrate. Two things: You're getting a LOT of push back from various subs, so my suspicion is not unusual The MRM has a long track record of being misquoted and misrepresented. Look at most MSM stories and you'll see MRAs being conflated with incels, MGTOWs and pick-up artists. We are, apparently, all alt-right white supremacists. We're all transphobic misogynists. We're ALL simultaneously wife beaters AND bitte…
/r/MensRights25/01/19 02:17 PM
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"men, don't prey on women, they are not yours for the taking!" OMFG, why did nobody tell me this before? Well... TIL, FFS /s
/r/MensRights25/01/19 01:54 PM
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And here comes the White Knight to rescue the fair damsel in distress... Super crazy hostile? Moi? As I said: I'm not the one posting here under false pretenses. Plus, and here's the kicker, I believe Marissa's adult enough to defend herself, to face some hard questions. This sub expects posters to have their big kid pants on, regardless of sex/gender/whatever.
/r/MensRights25/01/19 12:20 PM
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[edit to add] Imma call bullshit on this one. Marissa's next book, according to her website is Everyone Is a Freak: Anonymous Confessions About Sex, Sexuality, and Desire Straight off the bat, she's taking the MRM as a 'kink' thing. I guess when we're not being hateful misogynists, we're simpering pussy-beggers. So, here's a simple answer for why MRAs might feel that men are 'oppressed' (pro-tip, we don't really, see below): Feminists who think they know what we are talking about, because they d…
/r/MensRights24/01/19 11:13 PM
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Leaving aside the politics, the MAGA hats 'n' all that jazz... we have a group of KIDS being harassed by TWO groups of adults. One of the adults is, allegedly, a con artist with a history of making up anti-Indian racism (as well as lying about his military service). The other group was throwing out racist and homophobic slurs. In the middle of all this, there's one kid, who is now the whpping boy for the whole 'outrage/callout culture'. A young man; being doxxed, having celebrities calling for h…
/r/MensRights24/01/19 02:38 PM
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My question was, why do you think YOU get to be the arbiter of what is and is not a Men's Issue? Look at circumcision. Some people here have no skin in the game either way (excuse the pun). For some it is a central part of their Advocacy. You don't get to swan in here and tell us we're "doing it wrong" because YOU don't think an issue 'counts'.
/r/MensRights22/01/19 07:50 PM
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white centered You got sauce for this ridiculous claim? OP is getting downvoted for attempting to push a position that we reject. Period. Not because of anyone's identity, but because we reject 'intersectionalism'.
/r/MensRights22/01/19 07:46 PM
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unless it is an actionable problem it's not mens issue Who the fuck put you in charge of the committee deciding what is a men's issue?
/r/MensRights22/01/19 05:33 PM
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I don't get why people are so mad about this, who cares. Because it came less than a week after the APA guidelines that basically called all men toxic.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/01/19 04:20 PM
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So you don't think that black men for example might be facing some problems that are also related to their race? I said nothing that could remotely be taken to imply that. And how would splitting the MRM into 'PoC' and 'white' sections help those guys?
/r/MensRights22/01/19 03:50 PM
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You left out the doxxing, the threats, the harassment, the realisation they'd doxxed the wrong kid, the rinse and repeat
/r/MensRights22/01/19 03:46 PM
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I have noticed imagined that MRAs tend to be a bit white-centric That's just on you. If you look at discussions about our issues and only see it as being about, or ALL comments being from, 'white' men then YOU are the problem (generally, not /u/UsedToBeRadical specifically). Thing is, we're never going to 'acceptable' to feminists, because we undermine their central narrative; that men are privileged and women oppressed. Bascially Marxism twisted out of recognition, replacing class/wealth with s…
/r/MensRights22/01/19 03:41 PM
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This NOT a Trump/MAGA issue. It is raising a fair point about feminist hypocrisy. People are calling for violence against someone for a political statement. That ought to concern us, because who is going to be called on to commit and defend against that violence? Antifa and the Proud Boys have one thing in common, it's mostly men on the 'front lines', and the cops, when they are called in? It's threats against a man. Regardless of your politics, the fact that a school boy was harassed by Racist …
/r/MensRights22/01/19 03:26 PM
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Oh I got your point plenty fine; Men are bad, you are bad and you should feel bad. I got it from this little beauty: Hmm, except for the fact that men raping women is 1000x more prevalent than Islamic terrorists. and this I think every woman over the age of 20 has had some experience with at least being harassed or assaulted. Which implies a definition of 'harassment' that's so broad it's meaningless. You are willfully ignoring MY point, that the problem with the Gillette ad is the broad way it …
/r/PussyPassDenied22/01/19 03:10 PM
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I am from UK So am I. So what? According to http://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/pdf/fatalinjuries.pdf: Fatal injuries to workers are predominately to male workers. In 2017/18, 138 (96%) of all worker fatalities were to male workers, a similar proportion to earlier years. What is your point?
/r/MensRights22/01/19 01:26 AM
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How about this version, then? Women, stop fucking underage boys. It's Maybelline. or Women, stop murdering your sons. Buy Maxi Pads. And if you're the sort of woman who gets offended by being told not to maliciously accuse someone of rape, then you are the type of woman who needs to hear this message. Better?
/r/PussyPassDenied22/01/19 01:09 AM
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Two reasons for using it: Debunks male privilege. If the argument is that ALL men are privileged at the expense of ALL women, the counter-argument is not to claim ALL men are opressed. It is to show SOME men are not privileged. The death gap is one among many statistics dused to argue against male privilege. It shows feminist hypocrisy. We've seen complaints that, "OMG! X% of group Y are women".1 Imagine the shitfit if 95% of workplace deaths were women. The silence over the death gap is deafeni…
/r/MensRights21/01/19 10:50 PM
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How about I respond to the ad in MY way? Because, bluntly, I refuse to cede the point that the idea is raising a 'useful', meaningful question.
/r/MensRights21/01/19 09:19 PM
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You know this is a remake, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPxFaEo9_c8
/r/MensRights20/01/19 08:34 AM
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Perhaps, but there are male civilians as well. Of course, they don't count. Think I'm being hyperbolic? Remember the girls kidnapped by Boko Haram and how the world lost its collective shit? Ever ask yourself what happened to the boys in those schools? There's also the question of who is killing the civilians. That'd be soldiers, who are men, and by the time civilians are being affected many soldiers will have been killed on both sides.
/r/MensRights20/01/19 06:00 AM
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primary victims of war, Hilary Clinton said it: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-victims-of-war/
/r/MensRights20/01/19 05:30 AM
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It''s called the 'Motte and Bailey doctrine': http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2014/09/motte-and-bailey-doctrines/
/r/MensRights20/01/19 05:11 AM
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As far as I can see from https://www.refinedshave.com/gillette-wilkinson-sword/ there's a knock-off from China labelled as both 'Gllette' and 'Wilkinson Sword'. Also, I found THESE websites (https://2ndvote.com/new-research-better-alternative-to-gillette-the-best-a-2ndvote-man-can-get/ and https://www.marketscreener.com/PROCTER-GAMBLE-COMPANY-4838/news/Procter-Gamble-Gillette-s-Ad-With-a-Metoo-Edge-Gets-Mixed-Reactions-27882322/) which seem to imply they ARE different companies. This one (http:/…
/r/MensRights20/01/19 05:06 AM
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Everyone know that Wikipedia is filled with MRA... oh, hang on...
/r/MensRights20/01/19 02:05 AM
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duluth_model#Criticism
/r/MensRights20/01/19 02:04 AM
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AFAIK, WS are owned by Edgwell who aren't part of Procter & Gamble (owners of Gillette). In fact, as of 2017 they were in legal dispute: http://ir.edgewell.com/news-and-events/press-releases/2017/09-26-2017-140515034
/r/MensRights20/01/19 01:10 AM
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OK, it's the Daily Heil, but fuck me. The MSM using the word 'misandry' unironically.
/r/MensRights19/01/19 06:06 PM
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tl;dr Here's an issue where men suffer, and here's why it's men's fault. /s
/r/MensRights19/01/19 05:55 PM
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She was asked a stupid question, and came back with a sarcastic answer. She doesn't genuinely pick team members on penis size, as the context would make clear if you'd posted a link to the actual article, rather than an outrage-bait image.
/r/MensRights19/01/19 05:51 PM
1

What about Gen X?
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/19 05:13 PM
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It happens all the time here. We (as much as this sub can be considered a 'we') constantly get a stream of concern trolls telling us we are "doing it wrong", feminists bringing in their sure-fire zinger that'll completely destroy the movement (usually because they have NO FRICKEN' CLUE that we've heard it a million times before) and complete assholes who just want to farm Karma by posting vile sexist shit because they think we'll all agree with their "women sux0rz LOL" BS. Thing is, we don't ban…
/r/MensRights19/01/19 02:12 PM
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Well, please don't think this means you have to leave this sub. Honestly, while I disagree with you, I have to respect you for taking a principled stand.
/r/MensRights18/01/19 08:34 PM
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It's using intimidation to bully someone into silence. That's the point. It's not bullying SOMEONE. It's 'bullying' a CORPORATION, a purely legal entity that does not have civil rights. Plus, it's not bullying. The ad is an inducement to purchase. It is not unethical to tell the advertiser that one will choose to buy a competitor's product in future, in response to said inducement. A boycott, or a call to boycott, is an ethical response. The alternative is to consciously choose to buy Gillette p…
/r/MensRights18/01/19 06:57 PM
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I can understand where you're coming from, however boycotting Gillette is not hypocrisy. Think of it this way, you're going to buy razors/shaving foram/aftershave whatever. That is, you are going to be giving your money to one company or another. You have the choice either way, to buy Gillette or not, but that choice can ethically be informed by your opinions on a company's position on issues. Is boycotting Gillette a free speech issue? Bluntly no. Gillette is a corporation, a business entity, a…
/r/MensRights18/01/19 06:14 PM
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It's when your own smell bad that you know they're REALLY rank...
/r/PussyPassDenied18/01/19 04:30 PM
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Imke Wuebbenhorst is a pretty cool guy. Eh does her job and doesn't afraid of penis. :) Srsly, she shut down a sexist line of questioning and cracked a dick joke. It's a funny article and I think it shows us what feminism ought to be aiming for; professionalism, eqality and strength, rather than special treatment. Dunno what it has to do with mens rights.
/r/MensRights18/01/19 12:10 PM
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You do realise that when I say "This sub" I don't mean literally every single person on it right? A classic Motte-and-Bailey dodge. You say "this sub", implying it's ALL of 'us', but when pressed it's suddenly just 'the actions of a few individuals'. Found the feminist.
/r/MensRights18/01/19 11:58 AM
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This sub has always been about freedom of speech, being your own person, etc but it downvotes EVERYTHING that goes against it's views (One of the biggest complaints it has of Feminism). Imma call shenanigans. The sub does not downvote anything. Individuals downvote, based on their own individual points of view. The mods (as close as you can get to saying the sub does anything as a unit) do not ban people willy-nilly. We get a lot of feminists coming in to attempt to rebut the MRM position and mo…
/r/MensRights18/01/19 11:51 AM
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That's a dishonest response. The questin was about 'toxic masculinity' and 'patriarchy theory'; NOT whether feminists believe men should be killed.
/r/MensRights18/01/19 11:37 AM
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high off sniffing their own farts You know I have to sleep tonight, right? :)
/r/PussyPassDenied18/01/19 10:44 AM
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GTFO with your sexist 'facts' and shit... :)
/r/MensRights18/01/19 10:43 AM
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Can you imagine an ad that said: Muslims, stop blowing people up, it's finger lickin' good and then following that up with, "If you're the type of muslim that gets offended by this, then you are the type of muslim who needs to hear this message." I'm sure THAT would go over well. /s
/r/PussyPassDenied18/01/19 10:26 AM
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You numbskulls couldn't keep your crap consistent for two consecutive paragraphs. Took me a moment to realise you didn't mean MRAs with that 'you'. :) But yes, that's the shift. Ambition == abuse == man bad.
/r/MensRights18/01/19 10:23 AM
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when women, men are to blame FTFY /s
/r/MensRights17/01/19 10:12 PM
1

Do you mean THIS post: https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/agoypo/pot_calling_all_the_kettles_black/ee8vyqb/? The post where, rather than defending the 'best a man can be' ad, you were excusing Gillette's hypocrisy in objectification of women to sell razors while at the same time virtue signalling its 'Toxic MasculinityTM' wokeness? Because looking at your profile, that's the only involvement you've had with this sub in the last week, apart from THIS thread.
/r/MensRights17/01/19 10:02 PM
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I originally posted this, somewhat, as a break from Gillette-gate. Trouble is, having thought about it, they are two symptoms of the same disease. Both are saying, "toxic masculinity is bad, men are bad. Oops, sorry, we only meant to point at specific actions, (but then only when performed by men, and we won't talk about that)." There's a chain of links in the article, but in a nutshell these two events are both examples of a 'Motte and Bailey doctrine' (definition here). Basically, the 'bailey'…
/r/MensRights17/01/19 09:11 PM
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Did I say you SHOULD be criticised? No. Did I threaten you? No. Did I make any statment about incels, good or bad? No. I merely pointed out that you are more active in other subs than this one and dinged you for gatekeeping. Period.
/r/MensRights17/01/19 09:01 PM
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And Bush Jr went to war under false pretenses, and Clinton bombed the Middle East to get Lewinsky off the front pages and fucked up in Somalia, Regan invaded Grenada, Carter fucked up the Iran hostage rescue, Ford pardoned Nixon, Nixon was all Nixon-y, Lyndon Johnson brought us Vietnam. The list goes on.
/r/MensRights17/01/19 06:11 PM
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When conservatives (in America) stop Selective Service, when all conservatives stop banging the drums for war, when they start agitating to fund mental health services or homeless shelters or DV shelters for men get back to me and I'll listen. Both sides have their litle misandrist 'quirks', and I'm not entirely sure which is better for men.
/r/MensRights17/01/19 05:56 PM
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anyone here can tell you arent from this sub Are you? Your profile shows you're most active in incel subs. Does that mean we should criticise you? How about you stop gatekeeping?
/r/MensRights17/01/19 05:52 PM
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The people saying only bad men are triggered by the ad A classic Kafka-trap. If you disagree when I smear you, that's only proof the smear was valid. Angry that I called you racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/whatever? Proof you ARE those things.
/r/MensRights17/01/19 05:36 PM
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'We are constantly redefining what it means to be a man. We strive to be proud men. 'To achieve this, we try and spread the message about helping others. O RLY? They spend their time SAVING LIVES. How much more of a positive image of masculinity can they be expected to give?
/r/MensRights17/01/19 11:24 AM
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And comments are disabled...
/r/MensRights16/01/19 06:49 PM
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What does the mother's race have to do with ANYTHING?
/r/MensRights16/01/19 05:06 PM
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The worst sort, the perpetually outraged conservative. Basically the flip-side of the screeching feminist.
/r/MensRights16/01/19 11:20 AM
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Just sent them this: I understand that Gillette, as part of its new "We Believe: The Best Men Can Be" campaign, has undertaken to donate to causes helping men. Approximately 95% of workplace deaths are men, 80% of suicides are men, men receive 60% longer prison sentences than women for the same crime, approx 2/3 of the homeless are men and there are few (if any) provions made for male victims of domestic violence. I was wondering, will Gillette be donating to funds to bring awareness to these is…
/r/MensRights15/01/19 10:23 PM
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Sure. A credit'd be nice.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 08:18 PM
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Imagine an advert that went: "Muslims, stop blowing people up. It's finger lickin' good." or "Women, stop murdering your children. Buy Maxi Pads instead." Firstly, there's the problem of blaming a whole group for the actions of individuals. Second, there's the problem of treating serious issues so glibly. Thrid, and this is the kicker for me, there's the issue of ignoring issues that men face. Gillette have said they're going to donate $3m over the next 3 years to “programs designed to inspire, …
/r/MensRights15/01/19 07:52 PM
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Let me guess, before I read it... the problem is the letters 'm', 'e' and 'n' in THAT order in the word... and I called it. Never mind the word comes from Latin, from https://www.etymonline.com/word/menstruation: "the period of menstruation," 1680s, from past-participle stem of Late Latin menstruare, from menstruus "monthly" (from mensis "month;" see moon (n.)) + -ation. Old English equivalent was monaðblot "month-blood." Middle English had menstrue (n.), late 14c., from Old French menstrue, fro…
/r/MensRights15/01/19 07:41 PM
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"frail" Ie not conforming to 'toxic'TM ideals of masculinity as strong, rugged, stoic etc etc... Ironic how all the shaming language that'll be used against 'Gilette ad' critics is essentially perpetuating those horrible, worst a man can be, behaviours.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 02:35 PM
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And Enron was run by men, the majority of the bankers that caused the 2008 crash were men, the designers of the Tacoma Narrows bridge were men, the famine in India in the 1940s was orchestrated by a man, the famine in China was caused by men, the Holodomor was caused by men, the Holocaust... need I go on. Pointing out that an individual woman may (or may not, AFAIK the cause of the fire is still under investigation) have been responsible for the Tubbs fire is not a Mens Rights issue. The (allege…
/r/MensRights14/01/19 12:22 PM
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I remember a comment from the 2008 primaries, to the effect that the problem was that Hillary wanted to be the first female president whereas Obama simply wanted to be the 44th president. Comparing 2008 vs 2016, Obama/McCain seemed to a challenge to find the better of two excellent candidates but Clinton/Trump seemed to be about finding the least sucky.
/r/MensRights12/01/19 10:31 AM
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The phrase "Sex Assignment" was not used, it said "sex assigned at birth" Now you're arguing semantics. When I google "Sex Assignment", all I find is explanations that it just refers to what sex doctors assign a baby at birth Funny, when I did that, the first link was to Wikipedia, where most of the references are to scientific papers about intersex. The next two were direct links to scientific papers about... can you guess?... https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/sex+assignment sex …
/r/MensRights12/01/19 02:27 AM
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The fuck is the "scientific usage" of assign? The 'scientific usage' of a word refers to specific meanings of a word to refer to a specific technical point. 'Sex Assignment', in scientific terms, refers to intersexed individuals. The definition of "retard" is someone that is a dumb redditor that focuses on semantics. Also, the earth is round. See, I just used a word incorrectly and then said something factually correct. Your dumb point is dumb. You defined a word. Then made a completely unrelate…
/r/MensRights12/01/19 01:45 AM
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Not quite. Sure, Merriam-Webster gives an example of the colloquial, Critical Gender theorist, use of the term 'assign'. This is the APA's guidelines for treating men and boys, a scientific paper. 'Assign', in reference to sex/gender is a scientific usage, not colloquial. Oh, and to answer your point: Even if I was wrong it's not a valid reason to dismiss everything the APA says. Let me put it this way, a chain of logic is only as strong as its weakest link. A basic definition being wrong invali…
/r/MensRights12/01/19 12:54 AM
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I 'love' this comment: Male mentors literally avoid mentoring women at all because they’re afraid it will tarnish their name somehow & because they want to mentor someone more like them. They are afraid someone will get the wrong idea if they stay late with a female employee, so they fuck over all the talented women below them. "tarnish their name somehow" yeah right, because being maliciously accused fucking your life up is SUCH an inconvenience for us eebil Patrarchs. "they fuck over all the t…
/r/MensRights12/01/19 12:35 AM
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It's not semantics, that's just sophistry on your part. I'm talking a fundamental flaw in the paper, a misuse of a scientific term for dealing with rare individuals with intersex characteristics. The APA paper is NOT focussed on intersex people, it's focussed on men. This misuse occurs in the 'definitions' section. If the APA cannot get the basic definitions correct, then EVERYTHING that follows on from those definitions is flawed.
/r/MensRights12/01/19 12:28 AM
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You want to know why we reject the APA position? This is why, from the APA paper, page 2, under Definitions: CISGENDER Cisgender is used to refer to people whose sex assigned at birth is aligned with their gender identity With the exception of a small minority of intersex people, with ambiguous genitalia, people are NOT assigned sex or gender at birth. According to the Intersex Society of North America, intersex conditions occur in about 1 in 1500 to 1 in 2000 births (0.05% - 0.07%). THOSE are w…
/r/MensRights11/01/19 08:26 PM
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Buh-bye. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out... OR... you could become the change you wish to see.
/r/MensRights11/01/19 03:41 PM
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Brigading is against reddit rules.
/r/AntiFeminists11/01/19 12:35 PM
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an elderly couple who drove past us fishing Not gonna catch many fish from a moving car. Just sayin'...
/r/MensRights11/01/19 12:32 PM
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I am wondering what most of you think about homosexual men being part of Mens Rights Movement? No you're not. You're trolling with a leading question. The MRM, regardless of what you've read in Vice or Vox or wherever the latest hitpiece du jour has been posted, fights for the rights of MEN. Period. Are there issues that gay men face for being gay? Sure, and they have support for that. Are there issues that trans men and women face for being trans? Sure, and they have support for that. Are there…
/r/MensRights10/01/19 12:37 PM
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I never even heard if iFunny. Don't. Just don't. I had a quick look... let's just say it makes Uncyclopedia look like Mel Brooks.
/r/MensRights09/01/19 11:35 PM
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This caught my eye: There are two distinct age ranges for Men's Rights Activists: group one consists of adolescent boys aged 12-16, and group two is mainly inhabited by young adult males in the early 20s to late 30s range. The most prominent MRA media and literature consist of memes circulated on sites such as iFunny or 4chan, as well as YouTube channels run by fundamentalists or, unfortunately, New Atheists. Firstly, someone better tell Paul Elam and Warren Farell they're not MRAs anymore. I kn…
/r/MensRights09/01/19 07:51 PM
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If it's that important a point, maybe find a way to word it better and repost rather than claiming censorship.
/r/MensRights07/01/19 01:10 PM
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AKA trolling at its weakest
/r/MensRights07/01/19 01:04 PM
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Ok, how about: Oh look, another concern troll telling us we're "doing it wrong". Better?
/r/MensRights05/01/19 05:57 AM
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Let's put this in simple terms. If you (generally, not /u/CanadianAsshole1 specifically) make a claim of the form: All X are Y I do not have to prove that "all X are not Y" to disprove your claim. I only have to show that "some X are not Y". One of the cornerstones of feminism today is Patriarchy Theory, the idea that society (all societies, apparently) are specifically designed to 'privilege' ALL men at the expense of ALL women, that ALL women are oppressed and ALL men are their oppressors. Ie …
/r/MensRights05/01/19 05:40 AM
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What has this to do with Mens Rights?
/r/MensRights04/01/19 01:35 PM
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My point is he's getting the hate because male.
/r/MensRights03/01/19 07:21 AM
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Because Netflix didn't buy it.
/r/MensRights02/01/19 05:33 PM
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The sheer hatred for a man who did nothing wrong is sad. FTFY
/r/MensRights02/01/19 04:46 PM
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You agree with feminism, because it somehow 'used to' be good? When, in your opinion, did feminism go bad? When the National Organization of Women (one of the largest feminist bodies in the US) gave 'mattress girl' an award for bravery after she maliciously accused a fellow student of rape, then spent the next two years doubling down on that accusation? With the start of Title IX? With the development of the Duluth Model, when feminists wrote laws and policies in the US such that men are always …
/r/MensRights02/01/19 11:56 AM
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Feminism = tradcon, who knew. TIL
/r/MensRights31/12/18 06:01 PM
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I've read that according to genetic evidence, monogamy started around 20,000 years ago. Do you have sauce? Genuine interest, not "facts or TFO".
/r/MensRights26/12/18 05:50 PM
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Which is why stone-age hunter gatherer societies (frex indiginous Amazonians and New Guineans) have gender equality and no concept of war... /s
/r/MensRights26/12/18 04:27 PM
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Low level troll is low level.
/r/MensRights25/12/18 05:06 PM
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Well good for her... and... still waiting to hear why this is a MRA issue.
/r/MensRights17/12/18 04:50 PM
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Yeah. Sure. I'm not gonna hold my breath, though.
/r/MensRights10/12/18 12:23 PM
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Does this sub have a place for trans people? Yes. Either you're born male (and becoming a WOMAN), in which case society shits on you for fitting THAT XY demographic, so we've got you covered. OR... you're female becoming a MAN, in which case society shits on you for being a dude; male privilege and all that, and we've got your back on that one. As a trans person, you have specific issues that affect you because trans but not because MALE or MAN. On those issues some of us may be more or less sym…
/r/MensRights02/12/18 11:09 PM
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Men aren't raped. They are "Forcible Intercourse Survivors" TIL. /s
/r/MensRights01/12/18 06:19 PM
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If ya'll can't agree saying Feminazi is some cringey low-level shit... Firstly, what do YOU mean "you people"? Since when is this sub an "all"? ...then this isn't the /r/MenRights I subscribed to. Hate to break it to you snowflake, but it IS. This sub is one of a VERY small number of places where discussion of mens rights is not taboo. Thing is there's a lot of reasons people end up here. There are some who use this sub as a sort of 'clearing house' for links to feminist nonsense. There are some…
/r/MensRights25/11/18 06:18 PM
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So can we make a pact to stop stooping to their level with this cringey shit? Sure. Why not? While we're at it, why don't we agree not to do anything else controversial frex... Criticising feminism Campaigning against MGM Debunking patriarchy theory OR, how about we let people express their feelings as they will and, as we already do, point out their errors with logic and evidence based reason?
/r/MensRights25/11/18 04:38 PM
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Ooh! Ooh! I know this one! A two month old account that's only posted stuff about working at McDonalds suddenly pops up here and asks one of those leading questions we've seen so many times before! I call... wait for it... here it comes... Feminist Troll What the hell, let's throw a serious answer under the bridge for a laugh. Do you support trans mens rights What do you mean 'you'? The MRM as a whole? No one person here can answer that. So, assuming you're simply asking what I think about these…
/r/MensRights14/11/18 12:12 PM
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No, that's just sexism. I seriously doubt that men are looking at a woman having a heart attack and saying, "Imma watch her die 'cos fuck you #MeToo." I'd suggest it's more that men are looking at a woman and thinking, "If I touch her I could be slandered. Imma walk away, I'm sure someone else will help."
/r/MensRights06/11/18 10:45 AM
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Him (very angry): You are going to tell me exactly who you are and why you are here. Why is he so mad? He knows who I am and why I’m here. Hmmm... perhaps her first assumption was, I dunno, incorrect?
/r/MensRights06/11/18 09:48 AM
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Actually, [changing Ellen Ripley into Allan Ripley] WOULD have a lot to do with women's rights. O RLY? How, exactly, would a casting decision affect anybody's legal rights? OK, in the most trivial sense, an actor signs a contract in which they explicitly sign away certain rights of ownership to their performance to the producer in return for specific benefits. But that's not a men's (or women's) rights issue. Like that actress a while back pissing and moaning because she got screwed over on re-s…
/r/MensRights20/10/18 03:58 PM
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more lunacy from divorce courts. Not really. The precedent is that alimony ends on death... EXCEPT that this particular agreement had a clause stating that “entitlement, quantum, and duration of spousal support is non-reviewable and may not be varied on any material change of circumstances.” (emphasis mine) Change of circumstances like, frex, HER DEATH. Bascially they put it in so he wouldn't be on the hook for more than 5 years worth of payments. Trouble is, it also meant he could not be held l…
/r/MensRights20/10/18 03:52 PM
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I think the casting in a genre TV show has VERY LITTLE (ie fuck all) to do with men's rights.
/r/MensRights19/10/18 09:16 PM
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I love the thinking "do what we tell you, or we will use physical force. If you flee we will identify you and pursue you." Add to that the racial slurs. It's the fricken' bad-cop trifecta. But it's OK when THEY do it, 'cos they're 'punching up'.
/r/MensRights11/10/18 08:59 PM
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would HAVE /GrammarNazi
/r/MensRights11/10/18 01:28 PM
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No.
/r/AntiFeminists11/10/18 09:00 AM
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It basically seems to boil down to "bro code" or "snitches get stitches". The ex did something immoral, but don't tell because: But there’s a significant body of research in social psychology suggesting that our conduct in one type of situation often doesn’t generalize to others1. Except this is NOT different situations. This is not, as the article suggests "honest banker and dishonest husband". The ex-wife wants to be a reproductive rights consellor. The analogue would be be, "this banker admit…
/r/MensRights04/10/18 05:20 PM
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Main Stream Media? From what I can tell, the Washington Times leans conservative. That's not a criticism of TWT, good or bad, simply an observation. It's just that they're already against SJW-nonsense. I'll be more impressed when CNN or MSNBC cover the story positively. I'm not gonna hold my breath, though.
/r/MensRights04/10/18 12:52 PM
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I'm sorry, but WTF are you smoking? While the documentary is great, the following movement behind it is focused in very hardcore misogyny, and can damage the purpose of this sub (Men's Rights). Which movement do you think the movie discusses? ProTip, it's not PUAs (pick-up artists, ie the folks in /r/TheRedPill). Are you seriously arguing that MRAs (Men's Rights Activists, the subject of the documentary) damage THIS sub?
/r/MensRights03/10/18 06:30 PM
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Aspirin, Quinine, THC are all modern drugs derived from 'herbal' remedies. I think /u/Onithyr's point stands, there may be SOME good stuff there. OTOH homeopathy is STILL as efficacious as TimeCube is reasonable.
/r/MensRights03/10/18 03:53 PM
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I've been an active member of this sub for eight years Reddit Birthday June 27, 2018 Help, I are confuzzled.
/r/MensRights03/10/18 02:37 PM
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Sauce, for the interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XscaGDxuQqE
/r/MensRights30/09/18 03:48 PM
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Quick answer? No. Reason and logic aren't outdated, nor ineffective. I'd also suggest that the point of Critical Theory (feminism, SocJus et al) is to break down logical debate, to undermine empiricism, to allow for political correctness. I don't mean PC as in "you can't use the 'N' word". I mean the judgement of ideas on how they agree with a political position, not how they agree with observable reality. We can't accept the CT methodology and tactics, because that means ceding the grounds of t…
/r/MensRights29/09/18 01:00 AM
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Let the logic flow through you...
/r/MensRights28/09/18 12:58 PM
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No. Absolutely not. Want to know why? Because I don't support Kavanaugh now. I worry about false accusations, the overturning ov the presumption of innocence, what it means to genuine survivors of rape when their status is used as a political tool by the party that's supposed to support them the most. Fuck Kavanaugh. This is NOT about one man.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 04:58 PM
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Uphill in both directions.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 02:06 PM
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With the addition of a second woman alleging sexual misconduct of Brett Kavanaugh, it is still not clear what factual disputes will have to be addressed before a final confirmation vote occurs in the Senate. Whether or not the events actually happened as reported? Just spit ballin'...
/r/MensRights25/09/18 02:04 PM
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Working link: http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2017/08/does-female-genital-mutilation-have-health-benefits-the-problem-with-medicalizing-morality/
/r/MensRights25/09/18 01:56 PM
2

Why is this a topic in men's rights sub?? That is a good question. I would say that this discussion belongs on this sub as it highlights the problem with the common feminist rebuttal of intactivist arguments, "Cutting of a piece of skin is not comparable to cutting off a clitoris." Ie the argument that since FGM is 'worse' than MGM, then MGM is 'acceptable'. The problem is that once you give up on the simple standard of the right to bodily integrity, by making the discussion a 'zero-sum game' yo…
/r/MensRights25/09/18 01:53 PM
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Ah, the ol' Reddit WalkingDead-a-roo.
/r/MensRights24/09/18 12:29 PM
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the most obvious low-effort unbelievable fake Nah. That would be pretending that the internationally recognised 'OK' hand gesture was a Nazi salute. That shit's so blatant nobody would EVER fall for it...
/r/MensRights22/09/18 09:47 AM
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Because no mere MAN would go out of their way to purchase a tampon for another dude even, like, a solid bro... or something.
/r/MensRights21/09/18 01:26 AM
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OR Any kind of sexual objectification of others should not be okay. Not that I agree with that, but I do think there should at least be some effort at consistency. If objectification is BADTM for women, then it's bad for men. But if it's OK for men, then it's OK for women. Consistency... who the fuck am I kidding...
/r/MensRights19/09/18 06:51 PM
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the respondent [...] speaks for some I stated explicitly that I'm not claiming to speak for ANYONE. I was simply attempting to make it clear to OP that there are marked differences between the media depictions(/distortions) of the MRM and the actuality.
/r/MensRights19/09/18 04:51 PM
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Which is why I said, "MAY be a troll". [edit to add emphasis] I don't know you, so I'm not going to draw a conclusion about your character either way, but I would rather assume good faith until demonstrated otherwise. I do stand by my point that it is a worthwhile discussion.
/r/MensRights17/09/18 01:36 PM
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because... it hurts and its done on babies when their nerve system isn't sensitive enough yet to understand it Check out a circumcision video. Those babies SCREAM. Those aren't "I'm hungry" cries, or "I'm lonely". They understand pain. I'm not going to link to a video because',bluntly, I'm not strong enough to watch them.
/r/MensRights17/09/18 01:30 PM
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Mods, please leave this up. It may be a troll question, but still IMO a discussion worth having. From Merriam Webster, 'mutilation' is defined as: to cut up or alter radically so as to make imperfect to cut off or permanently destroy a limb or essential part of : cripple So, first point, MGM1 counts as it involves the removal of healthy tissue, ie "making imperfect". Sure, by definition, ALL surgery counts as mutilation, but performed because the damage caused is outweighed by the positives of s…
/r/MensRights17/09/18 01:08 PM
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very accurate summary I was aiming for REASONABLY accurate, so thank you. Yeah, it's a just a quick précis. I feel, looking at my post again, that I should have made it clearer that I wasn't attempting to make an exhaustive list.
/r/MensRights17/09/18 12:17 PM
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You can't, apparently, publish a book on how to have consensual sex with a woman on Amazon. Seriously, though. A lot of the reviews seem to think it was written by a man as a sort of "how to protect against being falsely accused."
/r/MensRights16/09/18 06:05 PM
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Take your insult with good grace, you... uh... piece of volcanic rock... :D
/r/MensRights16/09/18 03:53 PM
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I have yet to hear a logical argument on how "stereotypes" are in any way a negative thing. Two questions: What WAS your point? Because it sounded to me like you were opening a discussion, based on your not hearing reasons why stereotyping is bad. My argument is that, while stereotypes may not always be false, some ARE false and often used to push extreme political agendas. What form of evidence would you accept in support of that argument? And two points: There is no "discussion" to be had. It …
/r/MensRights16/09/18 03:46 PM
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History is irrelevant. All arguments must stand on their own merit. Evidence is irrelevant? Absent evidence, there is no argument only assertion. And if you have to travel back in time a significant way for your argument to have any merit; Your argument is devoid of merit. Activists are agitating to change laws NOW, based on stereotypes. Young men (and some women) are being dragged through kangaroo courts based on feminist 'rape culture' stereotypes, thanks to Title IX in the US. Look at the fro…
/r/MensRights16/09/18 02:45 PM
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Firstly, what is a stereotype? According to Merriam Webster: [edit to correct] I posted the wrong link. The definition I used actually came from https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/stereotype [/edit] a set idea that people have about what someone or something is like, especially an idea that is wrong (emphasis mine) I emphasized the last bit to reiterate that I have already conceded that there may be elements of truth in a stereotype. In a way, that last bit is a stereotype about…
/r/MensRights16/09/18 01:46 PM
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I have yet to hear a logical argument on how "stereotypes" are in any way a negative thing. The implicit question in your post is, "are stereotypes a bad thing? I'd suggest there are two issues: The truth/falsity of stereotypes The application of a general stereotype to an individual Stereotypes may be indicative of an underlying truth. I read a paper recently that argued that, although I can't find the link right now. I'll concede the point, though, that stereotypes are not always false. OTOH, …
/r/MensRights16/09/18 12:16 PM
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Sure. PM me when you want to conduct an interview. HOWEVER, be aware that the MRM is probably NOT what you think. We1 totally disagree with the feminist view of society; that women are oppressed by men. We don't claim that men are oppressed by women. We reject the whole concept that society is an oppressor/oppressed dynamic split along sex/gender2 lines. We claim that historical forces have led to societies that place different rights (actions the individual can claim from the state) and respons…
/r/MensRights15/09/18 12:48 PM
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Why is it so hard for this feminist magazine to believe that men don't care if a software programmer is also a Victoria Secrets model.
/r/MensRights15/09/18 12:25 PM
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A male can not force her. I kinda get where you're going with this, but...
/r/MensRights14/09/18 09:14 PM
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Implying that Sandi Toksvig is comical now... I think I see the flaw in your argument. :)
/r/MensRights14/09/18 11:31 AM
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Just from the abstract: The Men’s Rights Activism (MRA) movement and its sub-movement The Red Pill (TRP), By extracting a significant quantity of content from a prominent MRA website, ReturnOfKings.com (RoK), whose creator is one of the most prominent figures in the manosphere What can topic modeling demonstrate about the men's rights activism movement’s prescriptive masculinity? (emphases mine) Baseball and soccer are both team sports. If I were to write a paper exploring soccer hooliganism in …
/r/MensRights11/09/18 10:57 PM
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I'll just leave this here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Boys-Stupid-Throw-Rocks-Them/dp/0761135936
/r/MensRights11/09/18 09:01 PM
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They claim that everyone used to be fine with the idea of a husband beating the shit out of his wife, and that domestic violence was a one way street. The myth of the "rule of thumb", frex...
/r/MensRights11/09/18 10:49 AM
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At a faculty meeting the week before, the Department Head had explained that sometimes values such as academic freedom and free speech come into conflict with other values to which Penn State was committed. (emphases mine) I'm curious, what values come into conflict with academic freedom? That freedom is, surely, the search for honest understanding. So any values that conflict with it, conflict with honesty. [edit to add] I found THIS: https://behrend.psu.edu/about-the-college/college-strategy-1…
/r/MensRights10/09/18 06:17 PM
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Yeah but the insult was comparing this Daubney to the holy V. It's total misogyny and evidence of sexism against women, and therefore totally belongs on the list of 'abuse against women'. /s FFS
/r/MensRights10/09/18 12:05 PM
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Firstly, as many people have pointed out, this sub does not "trash talk women". Some people do, but they get rebutted quite quickly. What we do is "trash talk feminism". Actually, we don't. We try to (at least it is what I do) find logical, coherent ways to rebut feminist claims. What are those claims? That 'feminism' is "the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes". Patriarchy Theory - The idea that society was (and is) arranged by men to benefit men at the expense…
/r/MensRights10/09/18 12:00 PM
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It is kinda pathetic really. I'm quite insulted.
/r/MensRights09/09/18 10:44 PM
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It's important not to confuse the Suffragettes, <snip> with Suffragists Unless one is deliberately forcing a narrative...
/r/MensRights09/09/18 10:42 PM
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I'm writing from a British perspective its what you said. Yes. I can read. I still don't see HOW that equates to me claiming to speak for anybody. Unless you go by the feminist idea that anything anybody says is solely a reflection of their group identity and uttered on behalf of that group identity. Also, really do not use the word "logic." I wasn't 'using the word', I was trying to actually use logic to understand what the hell you are saying. Now, how about YOU try to understand the actual, y…
/r/MensRights09/09/18 12:42 PM
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Nah, xe's not a troll. Check xis post history, lots of stuff on /r/MensLib, ergo a feminist and remember: Feminists are stupid. Throw facts at them.
/r/MensRights09/09/18 12:36 PM
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I don't mean to be obtuse, but how do you get from: "I'm writing FROM a specific and specified PoV" to "I'm speaking on BEHALF of people" I really can't follow your logic here.
/r/MensRights09/09/18 12:13 PM
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From https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.04184.pdf Since then, evidence of greater male variability, although by no means universal in either traits or species, has been reported in a wide variety of animal species from wasps and adders to salmon and orangutans (cf.[8]). Almost exactly one hundred years after Darwin’s observation, specifically citing Darwin’s research on animals [11, pp. 221–27] and Ellis’s research on humans [15, pp. 358–372], one expert concluded “By the 1890’s several studies had been…
/r/MensRights09/09/18 11:32 AM
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It's not a strawman. I'm taking the piss. Nobody with any sense is going to argue that men are not generally taller than women. I've already ceded that point. My problem with your post is that you dismissed as "PC garbage" the ACTUAL POINT of the article, and the study it discusses, that there are statistical differences in brain structure between men and women, but not enough to explicitly denote an individual as male or female based on brain structure alone.
/r/MensRights08/09/18 03:27 PM
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you would be right 97.8% of the time Which means you could be wrong 2.2% of the time. There are people with Down's syndrome that have an IQ within the normal population range (90-110). That doesn't mean that it's wrong to assume any particular individual with Down's syndrome has an intellectual disability. Really? How about if I rephrase that? Women are twice as likely as men to murder their children. There are women who DON'T murder their children. That doesn't mean that it's wrong to assume an…
/r/MensRights08/09/18 02:42 PM
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While there is overlap between below average men and above average woman, you can safely assume that the vast majority of 5'10" individuals are men and the vast majority of 5'4" individuals are women. What point are you trying to make? Yes, if you meet someone who's 6 feet tall they are MORE LIKELY to be a man than a woman, but you can't say for definite that just because an individual is 6' tall they ARE a man. Conversely, someone who's 5' tall is more likely to be a woman. Ooh look, a woman wh…
/r/MensRights08/09/18 02:01 PM
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I doubt that many trans people are offended by this Probably true, except it's not trans people who make a fuss about this sort of thing. It is what I call 'gender activists' who, frankly, don't actually give a damn about trans people (ie people with gender dysphoria) but are pushing a specific political view of sex/gender issues.
/r/MensRights08/09/18 01:31 PM
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Despite the study’s consistent sex-linked patterns, the researchers also found considerable overlap between men and women in brain volume and cortical thickness, just as you might find in height. In other words, just by looking at the brain scan, or height, of someone plucked at random from the study, researchers would be hard pressed to say whether it came from a man or woman. That suggests both sexes’ brains are far more similar than they are different. Which was exactly Damore's argument. Sta…
/r/MensRights08/09/18 11:29 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/9e1gyw/because_obviously_this_is_all_the_fault_of_white/
/r/MensRights08/09/18 10:58 AM
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Not at all. He would not have had to if the authorities had focused on finding the right person rather than twisting the facts just to convict SOMEONE. [edit to add] Fair criticism, though. Perhaps "absolute worst thing" was hyperbole.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 06:31 PM
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The absolute worst thing about stories like this is that someone was raped and murdered and the rapist got away with it.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 04:30 PM
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It's a woman, it goes without saying it'll be evil. Found the 12 year old.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 02:32 PM
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One of the problems the MRAs have is the "women are wonderful" syndrome, the way that society (in defiance of feminism's claims of oppression) will bend over backwards to excuse women's wrong doing. So, posting stories like this is relevant because it shows that women CAN be manipulative and vindictive. If your (generally, not /u/cld8 specifically) take is that we are saying ALL women are like that you are missing the point. OTOH, and kinda related, society generally frowns upon criticism of wom…
/r/MensRights07/09/18 10:39 AM
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OMFG! The author mis-used ONE word, in a way that made the intent clear given the context! Tar and feather her! Really? You're gong to criticise language (mis)usage and ignore the actual, y'know, CONTENT of the piece? Kinda funny really, as there is a fairly large group of people who do that a lot.
/r/MensRights06/09/18 10:13 PM
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Predictably, Asia Argento claims SHE is the victim of 'sexual attack' by Jimmy Bennett FTFY
/r/MensRights06/09/18 05:33 PM
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Is the aid [gender neutral]? Bwahahahahaa! I love your sense of humour... ...obligatory '/s'
/r/MensRights06/09/18 02:52 PM
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I'm gonna have a go myself... Quantum theory can be described as a countermovement to gender equality, rooted in a collective sense of grievance, which directs knowledge producers and movement participants alike to engage in collective identity construction and in-group penis. Because at least one word in a madlib HAS to be penis.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 07:32 PM
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To be honest, this self styled “radical feminist of a separatist breed” sounds like a lovely piece of work. I'm fairly sure I could predict the content of her blog... still, she ought to be free to say it. That way I can be free to say that she's wrong. OTOH, this IS what the SJWs have been asking for, to criminalise 'hate speech'. Of course, they expected the state to go after 'those people'. Dunno why, though, after all they think the gubmint is full of misogynistic racist transphobic homophob…
/r/MensRights05/09/18 07:08 PM
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Uh no. Cereals are, pretty much by definition, made from grains. Spam is made from meat (supposedly, although I've never seen a spam in the wild). Totally different.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 05:39 PM
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Thank you.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 05:01 PM
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Nah. There were TWO of them, so 'WOMEN' is correct.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 11:15 AM
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Nice response to THIS bullshit: https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9cx6rd/mras_are_worth_studying_but_only_negatively_the/
/r/MensRights05/09/18 10:40 AM
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The Suffragettes tried to kill men and probably did. My first response to this is that you're being hyperbolic, so I'm gonna have to ask for a source. OTOH, prominent suffragettes formed the White Feather Girls, shaming young men in Britain into 'volunteering' to fight in WW1, so yes, in a sense, they did kill men.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 10:28 AM
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Ah, the old: I didn't do it, and it was his fault when I did it defense.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 09:54 AM
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It was a man's show Source? Got you covered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlyoYf0NoH0
/r/MensRights04/09/18 10:51 PM
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Only 15.5 deaths per 100,000 for men, compared to 4.9 per 100,000 for women. So men are only 3 times as likely to kill themselves than women! Huzzah! Time to break out the Bollinger! /s
/r/MensRights04/09/18 05:55 PM
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I'm going through it, well the conclusion at least and came across this little gem: A PMI test of the men’s rights subreddit indicates the community shares a strong similiarity to explicitly conservative or right-leaning communities including MGTOW (63%), sjwhate (62%), and European (54%) Well.. first thing is, unless someone can find a better definition, PMI means Positive material identification, the analysis of metal alloys. Maybe my google-fu is weak. OK, I like Motorhead but I don't see how…
/r/MensRights04/09/18 05:52 PM
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“Banged to rights on that panel today. Just focused on booking women. Any one would do. Ended up with the Shadow Foreign Secretary, a former Home Secretary, the co-Political Editor of the Guardian, an associate Editor of the Daily Telegraph and the BBC’s Political Editor. Sad!” So five people qualified to discuss current events? I have no problem with that, in itself. If they're not 'diversity hires', what's the issue? I do have a problem with this: Former Labour politician Sarah Hayward called …
/r/MensRights04/09/18 02:22 PM
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Archive: http://archive.is/lMphK Deny the bait the clicks.
/r/MensRights03/09/18 02:48 PM
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It seems to me like government has seized the means of production. That's not the case, though. From the article: Angela Todisco, an HR boss at SAP, the German software giant, was giving a talk on the future of work when she breezily mentioned a policy her company had started rolling out to put more women into management. [...] It is always impressive to see a company doing more than spout the same old guff about making the workplace more equal. (emphases mine) The problem here is that the busin…
/r/MensRights02/09/18 08:15 PM
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Conversely, however, trans rights are women's rights. For example, lack of availability of birth control or sterilization affects transmen just as much as it affects cis women. Yes. And "trans rights" as a whole include issues that cis- men and women do not face. Of course, as /u/azazelcrowley pointed out, it's feminists drawing the equivalency as a way to demonise trans issues.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 08:37 AM
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So... no sources then? You've asserted a point: that trans (yeah, I'm using the term since it ought to be blindingly obvious what I mean given the context of the discussion1) people are "mentally ill, or showing signs of factitious disorder." That struck me as rather a strong claim so I asked for sources, which you declined, bragging, "I could source all of that, no problem." Yet NOW you don't need sources. NOW it's simply axiomatic. Since you like pointing out logical fallacies, I'm gonna do it…
/r/MensRights01/09/18 07:00 PM
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There are only people that are mentally ill, or showing signs of factitious disorder . Your claim. So back it up. Still, since you want to play that game: https://wire.ama-assn.org/ama-news/ama-takes-several-actions-supporting-transgender-patients https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria https://www.glad.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ama-resolution-fact-sheet.pdf That's the americans, though. They're weird. How about Britain? They're much more ratio…
/r/MensRights01/09/18 03:55 PM
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"yes ma'am" OMG the sexism of referring to a womyn as "ma'am", a contraction of "madam" which contrasts with "miss", ie reducing a proud womon who don't need no man to her status as married or unmarried. Plus, of course, the dismissive misogyny of the word "yes", giving a one-word answer when obviously the topic requires a thoughtful, well reasoned answer. /s
/r/MensRights01/09/18 03:44 PM
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There are only people that are mentally ill, or showing signs of factitious disorder . So it should be no problem for you to provide links to peer-reviewed research demonstrating this.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 03:35 PM
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Never! Feminism is all about equality and reason... Nah, who'm I kidding. As soon as they started hinting that men might not be the spawn of Satan they were un-personed right away.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 02:35 PM
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Trans rights are men's rights? I would say, yes they are. There are MEN who want to become women. There are women who want to become MEN. Either way, they are men who warrant (at least to some degree) our support.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 12:48 PM
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Well, not GROUPS, but Christina Hoff Summers and Camille Paglia come to mind as being more fair minded feminists.
/r/MensRights01/09/18 12:35 PM
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You missed /u/Adanu0's point, or perhaps they didn't make it clearly. They should have said: "You can't be pro-men's rights without BEING PERCEIVED (or portrayed) AS being anti feminist." That said, anti-feminist <> anti-woman. Under feminism's ideology, history is the story of MEN oppressing WOMEN. Power and oppression are the lens (and only lens) through which they view gender disparities. Look at how feminists consider rape. It's always male perp and female victim. Consider how that erases ma…
/r/MensRights01/09/18 09:18 AM
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I presume you're referencing THIS: https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9b8sky/male_privilege_is_foreskin_advocacy_groups_the/e51tr2r/ Which you then proceed to selectively quote, taking stuff out of context to imply something different than what /u/TheRavenousRabbit actually said. In a thread like this there will always be someone like that to provide a screenshot which will repel feminists from touching this issue. You've got it wrong. What you should have said is: "In a thread like th…
/r/MensRights30/08/18 01:09 PM
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Transgender hype? I've started drawing a distinction between "trans activists" (who advocate for people with gender dysphoria; the 0.3% of people who are actually TRANS) and "gender activists" who are pushing a political agenda. I think I've seen your "guy with full beard, wearing eyeliner". Dakota something, right?
/r/MensRights30/08/18 08:50 AM
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Nobody is excusing FGM. Really? Because HERE you said: "It was not a subtext that MRAs are trying to minimise FGM, it is a direct claim of behavior I have seen." And I'm still waiting for sauce. All your comments seem oriented toward presenting a self-righteous argument to MRAs. No. I'm arguing against your claim that MRAs minimise FGM. From your first post in this thread: "The attraction of the MRM to denialism about the severity of FGM practices is irresistible and its outcome is we look disho…
/r/MensRights29/08/18 11:30 PM
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you would need to understand the reason for including such obviously benign practices as a pinprick in the ban. It's a medically unecessary surgical procedure. That's all you need to know. In terms of how it looks, there is something creepy and weird about MRAs turning up to a joint effort with feminists with an and a whole lot of investment in their obsessively detailed knowledge of what is done to baby girls' genitals and opinions on how it should be dealt with. Really, this is not our field. …
/r/MensRights29/08/18 10:24 PM
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men trying to fix anything about their lives while women [do X/need Y/deal with Z] is male privilege. FTFY
/r/MensRights29/08/18 09:45 PM
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What exactly is your point? There are people in this thread, as usual(emphasis mine), pushing the fact that some FGM practices are less destructive than male circumcision. Again using loaded language to push an agenda. 'Pushing [the] fact' that Type 4 FGM is less intrusive than MGM? A fact you concede, BTW. How is discussing a difficult topic with facts a bad thing? This is true but the emphasis on it is enraging to feminists, who are then blamed for being mysteriously uninterested in male circu…
/r/MensRights29/08/18 08:48 PM
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Say something counter to feminist goodthink.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 07:19 PM
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All through this thread there are people eagerly(emphasis mine) pointing out that there are forms of FGM which do not cut out the clitoris, and which are in fact less destructive than MGM. Nice use of language to try to reinforce your subtext that MRAs are trying to minimise/normalise FGM. The point being made is that MGM is typically worse than many forms of FGM which are banned. That does not entail that we are arguing that since MGM is legal, these 'less intrusive' forms of FGM should be lega…
/r/MensRights29/08/18 07:17 PM
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I'm starting to think we ought to be talking about them as 'gender' activists, rather than as trans activists. There are people who advocate for the rights of trans people: equal opportunity, workplace protections, that sort of thing. Then there are people who are pushing a politicised view of the whole concept of gender; the type who push "37 types of gender", "gender is solely a social construct" etc. Why this distinction? A while back I read a reddit comment from a young gay kid who reported …
/r/MensRights29/08/18 05:23 PM
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The attraction of the MRM to denialism about the severity of FGM practices is irresistible and its outcome is we look dishonest, uncaring, and whining about a relatively minor problem. Says who? The MRM does not diminish FGM. The only way you can argue that is if you follow THIS logic: MGM is trivial MRAs argue that MGM is equivalent to FGM, THEREFORE MRAs argue that FGM is trivial The reality is this: FGM is terrible MRAs point out that MGM is equivalent to FGM THEREFORE MRAs are arguing that b…
/r/MensRights29/08/18 03:35 PM
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The sick thing is how this relativism is now being used to defend FGM as it is, in some cases, 'less bad' than male circumcision.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 12:43 PM
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Narcassist Incel tautology watchdog says "woof!" :)
/r/MensRights29/08/18 12:39 PM
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We all know men are only using girls for sex besides family members that we actually love We don't know that at all. Given that your first premise is nonsense, the rest of your gibberish is meaningless. OTOH, let's pretend arguendo that your point has some merit. How sensible is the rest? Well, let's try and make sense of what you're saying: men only want women for sex men and women should live in separate societies even though... women are unable to take care of themselves, but that doesn't mat…
/r/MensRights29/08/18 09:40 AM
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Sauce?
/r/MensRights28/08/18 04:02 PM
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my point your head
/r/MensRights28/08/18 10:31 AM
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Claiming that mass-shootings like this wouldn't happen if fathers were present is a ridiculous idea. You can't tie something this complex down to a single variable. It's obviously toxic masculinity to blame... /s
/r/MensRights27/08/18 09:27 PM
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I'm imagining a story where a person was raped and someone interjects, "people of the other gender can be raped, too!" Firstly, perhaps you could have been clearer? Second, if a woman is discussing her personal experience of being raped then discussing other rape victims is insensitive, yes. But that is NOT what I am talking about. If someone were talking about a story on the rape crisis specifically in men's prisons and another person interjected about the problem of women getting date raped, t…
/r/MensRights27/08/18 04:42 PM
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What was worrying was this bit: But much of this correlation is due to street-level petty and violent offenses, not mass murder, and it would be abhorrent—obscene, even—to suggest that people with a low IQ should be treated with suspicion, or as murderers-in-waiting. Well, not that quote per se, but the realisation that while that is totally reasonable, and no civilised person would even consider suggesting that, there is a large chunk of society that would argue against this: But much of this c…
/r/MensRights27/08/18 04:01 PM
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It depends on the conversation. If it was something specific to women and one brings up men because they think they are underrepresented (which may well be true), be that a good or a bad thing it's a derail. A good example is someone going on about 9/11 being a false flag: that person should be derailed. No. It depends on the reality of the topic under discussion. Disproving the '911 false flag' is NOT derailing, it's disproving. Pointing out that men can be raped, regardless of the sex/gender o…
/r/MensRights27/08/18 11:21 AM
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I can't believe you missed girlwriteswhat Or an ear for men
/r/MensRights27/08/18 02:14 AM
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Maybe the young ladies weren't attractive enough to make it worth the Neanderthals time? It's Swansea on a saturday night. The girls' attractiveness would have been approaching 100% because the Neanderthals would have all been shit faced. On the other hand they could have been woke MRA Neanderthals, in which case the gals were on a hiding to nothing. 😉 Well, it is a 'Slug and Lettuce', pretentious pubs for people who think they are 'too middle class' to go to pubs.
/r/MensRights26/08/18 10:03 PM
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It's OK. Kindergarten will be open again soon.
/r/AntiFeminists25/08/18 04:33 PM
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if [I am] interjecting those statistics is because [I] think the conversation focuses too much on women's issues already and not enough on the male half of the story, that may or may not be true but it is also an intentional derail Huh? I don't meant to obtuse but I don't get you. If I believe that focusing solely on female victims is counterproductive to helping ALL victims of rape, including females then pointing that out is NOT derailing the conversation. Except in the broadest sense that me …
/r/MensRights25/08/18 11:29 AM
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pointing out that it is different in form To which I would respond that the WHO defines Type 1 clitoridectomy and Type 4 'pinpricks' as FGM. It is THEY who are drawing an equivalence between the most and least invasive forms. If ALL forms of FGM are equivalent per the WHO, then comparing male circumcision to the worst is not a false quivalence. Consider ALSO that the WHO say this: Type 1: Often referred to as clitoridectomy, this is the partial or total removal of the clitoris (a small, sensitiv…
/r/MensRights24/08/18 09:36 AM
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I don't think it is fair to say that circumcision is equivalent to clitoral removal FFS... The WHO definition of FGM is: Female genital mutilation (FGM) includes procedures that intentionally alter or cause injury to the female genital organs for non-medical reasons It then goes on to describe the various Types, from Type 1 (total clitoridectomy, ie removal of the clitoris) to Type 4. Type 4: This includes all other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes, e.g. pricki…
/r/MensRights23/08/18 11:49 PM
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Old news: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Physik /s [edit to add] I read the actual paper (or tried to). She mentions "quantum" so she must be correct, amirite?
/r/MensRights22/08/18 09:30 PM
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How does it affect the spread of HIV to women? Or something REALLY vital, like manspreading? /s
/r/MensRights22/08/18 08:48 PM
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Nice non sequiteur. What is the nicest country to live in is not the issue. Your argument appears to be "The most feminist societies in the world are also the most prosperous" which is demonstrably false according to feminist rhetoric, per the logic I presented earlier about US rape stats. That aside, let's look at your claim of a correlation between 'feminist' and 'wealthy'. According to wikipedia the wealthiest countries are: United States China Japan Germany United Kingdom India France Brazil…
/r/MensRights22/08/18 08:46 PM
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The first of their three theories is that HIV positive men are opting for circumcision at higher rates. The second theory is that men who are at higher risk of contracting HIV because they have many sexual partners or do not like using condoms, opt for circumcision because they think it is a safe solution. And the third theory is that HIV-positive men are more likely to get circumcised. Uh... aren't theories 1 and 3 saying the same thing, that men with HIV are more likely to get circumcised? [ed…
/r/MensRights22/08/18 02:57 PM
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Does she have a thing for kids? <snip> women certainly do these things, but they are outliers Let me guess. It was an 'affair'? a 'romp'? She really loved him? Bullshit. Women can be kiddy-fiddlers too: https://old.reddit.com/r/casualChildAbuse/comments/98x04q/found_a_whole_forum_about_mothers_molesting_their/ Don't excuse this because she's a 'victim' herself. That's exactly the sort of hypocrisy that's driving the Argento outrage. A lot of people on social media are saying "the Argento case pr…
/r/MensRights22/08/18 01:50 PM
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I haven't seen anybody "blindly believing Argento's accuser" here. That's not to say there is nobody doing that, but I haven't seen it. OTOH What I have seen is a lot of outrage over the way the #MeToo figureheads, with one notable exception, have rushed to defend Argento in direct violation of THEIR stated #ListenAndBelieve policy. Heck, look at the way feminists rallied to defend one of their own when faced with such charges: https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-when-top-feminists…
/r/MensRights22/08/18 10:59 AM
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The most feminist societies in the world are also the most prosperous. The least feminist ones are among the least prosperous. I'm having trouble parsing this. The US is the wealthiest country on earth, yes. According to feminists it's also a hive of "scum, villainy and misogyny" with rape statistics comparable to the Congo and led by a wannabe-Hitler "grab 'em by the pussy", Roe-V-Wade overturning president. Perhaps you could expand on your thesis and make a little more sense?
/r/MensRights22/08/18 09:47 AM
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Why is it always left-wing MRAs complaining about right-wing MRAs Because it isn't. I'm a 'lefty' (Social Democrat, as far as I can pigeon hole myself) and I have NO problem with right wing leaning folks here. What we have a problem with is three day old accounts swanning in here and telling us we are "doing it wrong".
/r/MensRights21/08/18 10:11 AM
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they are the primary victims of war, after all.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 08:22 AM
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Men’s rights advocates (MRAs) and anti-feminist men’s groups claim that men now are the victims in our society, of both women and feminism. Uh... nope. Men’s physical and emotional health is constrained above all by traditional constructions of masculinity Hey! Victim blaming FTW! I love this bit: The health of men is equal to that of women on a broad range of measures (Connell et al., 1999). Simple comparisons between men’s and women’s health neglect the influence of social disadvantage. If we …
/r/MensRights19/08/18 03:20 PM
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You'd think more progressives would care, since this particularly affects poor, minority males, the groups they claim to speak for. You must be new here. :D
/r/MensRights13/08/18 02:38 PM
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Damn. You got me...
/r/MensRights13/08/18 02:32 PM
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What a nauseating circle-jerk.
/r/MensRights01/08/18 04:05 PM
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male feminists are just guilty rapists and sex offenders trying to make up for their past sins ... find new victims. FTFY
/r/MensRights26/07/18 05:04 PM
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Not your personal army
/r/AntiFeminists20/07/18 01:13 PM
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Probably wanted to bust up her chifferobe.
/r/MensRights20/07/18 12:46 PM
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I’d prob try starting with something like <asking a reasonable question about the issues>. That prob won’t definitely WILL get you banned. FTFY
/r/AntiFeminists20/07/18 12:43 PM
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Female teacher- "sex romp" "affair" Male teacher - "rape" FTFY
/r/MensRights18/07/18 05:46 PM
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If "many times" the judges are men, then who (or what) is doing the judging the rest of the time? I'm sure it's a fairly simple answer, it's on the tip of my tongue... any ideas?
/r/MensRights18/07/18 04:37 PM
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But men are sexist. They all make gross generalisations based on gender... /s
/r/AntiFeminists02/05/18 07:42 PM
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"You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into."
/r/MensRights02/05/18 12:05 PM
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Toxic masculinity! No qualifications there, no doubts. This expression appears to have been devised by the “mythopoetic” men’s movement that arose in the 1980s as a way of denoting what can go wrong with men if they do not achieve genuine “deep” masculinity through myth and ritual, campfires and drumming. (emphasis mine) Wow. So MRAs invented the phrase 'toxic masculinity'? They're really reaching now.
/r/MensRights28/04/18 03:04 PM
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Scott Adams is just generally guilty of wrongthink. By definition that is wrong. At least according to the SocJus types.
/r/MensRights24/04/18 10:10 AM
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when i say "i hate jews" i'm not talking about every individual jew in the world, im talking about jews as a social class, but if you're the kind of jew that gets offended when i say i hate jews then i do, specifically, hate you on an individual level Doesn't sound quite so progressive now, does it? obligatory '/s'
/r/MensRights17/04/18 02:04 PM
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When Rebecca Watson made her 'sexual harassment at an atheist conference claim' (ie when someone invited her for coffee) Dawkins wrote the 'Dear Muslima' response, calling her out on her bullshit. Harris, on the other hand, has the unforgivable stance that religion is wrong, period. Doesn't sit well with the regressive position that Islam is somehow unquestionable.
/r/MensRights13/03/18 10:36 AM
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Nope. I just can't resist a crappy joke, especially in response to a crappy joke.
/r/MensRights13/03/18 10:32 AM
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Much as I hate to admit it, 'Atheism' as a movement is dead. The Atheism+ crowd killed it years ago when they un-personed Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins. Wish I could put a smiley or a joking '/s', but I can't.
/r/MensRights12/03/18 07:04 PM
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Then become a house husband today! You can do your bit for equality while your wife is living the life fucking the Chads she wants and fighting the patriarchy!" FTFY
/r/MensRights12/03/18 06:27 PM
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The schoolboy was found lying dead on his bunk bed by Speed's partner, Darren Jones, at their home in Church Stretton, Shropshire, on September 21 last year. Darren Jones to be accused of murder in 3, 2, 1...
/r/MensRights09/03/18 05:04 PM
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Not sure about specifics, but the feminism that got women the right to vote and work in the workplace were good. You mean the ones who were handing out white feathers to young men to shame them into fighting in WW1? Those 'good' feminists?
/r/MensRights08/03/18 08:12 PM
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A couple of the points--both the premise that the patriarchy and objectification of women drives female sexual predators and the premise that romantic feelings / emotional connection drives female sexual predators--are part of the ideas that lead to not seeing these kinds of women as predators: they're the victims of social oppression; they're really in love with the boys and mean no harm Of course. Women are weak creatures who are too dumb to think for themselves. Of COURSE they're going to be …
/r/MensRights02/10/17 09:13 PM
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Nope. My father's, because... In the west, we live in a PATRILINEAL society. Not a patriarchy.
/r/MensRights30/09/17 10:36 AM
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Amanda Marcotte 'nuff said...
/r/MensRights11/09/17 01:43 PM
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Because this is normal behaviour for left wing ideologists people? FTFY
/r/MensRights03/09/17 09:07 PM
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Because, I assume, wommynz NEVER take part in genocidal actions.
/r/MensRights02/09/17 01:10 PM
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Just re-read your post, it looks like you're saying "MORE extensive and MORE constraining," otherwise, we seem to agree.
/r/MensRights29/08/17 03:22 PM
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But the gender roles are far more extensive and constraining than actual biological sex. I'd say "more wide ranging and LESS constraining than physical sex".
/r/MensRights29/08/17 03:13 PM
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only about 1 in 1,000 people are transsexual The evidence I've read suggest 0.3% of the population are trans, ie 3 in 1,000. That's just picky details, you're in the right ballpark.
/r/MensRights29/08/17 03:13 PM
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If you don't go through puberty then your brain never finishes developing. Debatable, but for the sake of argument... thing is, kids on puberty blockers DO go through puberty, just a little later than most. If they decide they're not trans, they stop taking blockers and (assuming they're MtF) they go through MALE puberty. If they decide to continue, they go on hormones and go through FEMALE puberty. Yes, a few years later than most, but that's not a massive disaster. Consider that doctors don't …
/r/MensRights28/08/17 10:10 PM
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We have known for a long time this is a growing serious issue Yes. Trans teens have a higher suicide rate than cis teens. The puberty blocker route seems to be the best (because ONLY) effective treatment. In fact, in the US, the current medical ethics position is that it may be unethical to DENY such treatment: so long as the clinician discusses all potential risks and benefits, as he or she must do with any experimental drug. Because this is the only therapy available for children with GID, it …
/r/MensRights28/08/17 09:59 PM
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Maybe this is actually an in-depth investigation of the mythical SJW parents forcing their kids to become trans for 'street cred'. After all, trans is the new Indigo. First few paragraphs in: more than 800 kids Trans (with diagnosed dysphoria) people are bout 0.3% of the population. Is 800 kids with dysphoria a suspiciously high percentage? Dunno. Article doesn't say. Powerful monthly hormone injections stop the development of sex organs, breasts and body hair, making it easier for doctors to ca…
/r/MensRights28/08/17 10:11 AM
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You aren't including US and other countries sanctions. You aren't including the attempts to stop the region modernzing in the run up to the next famine. Well, since I haven't seen any evidence of such, then I'm not going to include them. Your sources are bullshit, because they don't tell you the famines were occoring naturally. Which is it? Was the Holodomor the fault of the Americans or nature? Or, god forbid, perhaps it was the fault of Soviet Policy. Because you'd think; if the West (especial…
/r/MensRights19/08/17 09:54 AM
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Thats not to say terrible things didnt happen in communist countries but to set it up as good guys 'vs bad guys is delusional and political propaganda. That I can agree with. The problem is, you don't see that it is YOU doing that. As for the rest of your 'points', it's all red herrings. The closest to relevance is this: "You had no idea that capitalist countries run trade blockades against communist countries." The issue was never whether western countries have ever used sanctions against commu…
/r/MensRights19/08/17 09:40 AM
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Cuba? Now you've added the Red Herring fallacy to your list. Woot! Sure, stopping the country modernizing and trading had nothing to do with it. 7-10 years BEFORE the famine, or 20 years AFTER. Are you arguing Cold War US policy/sanctions against the USSR had an affect on a famine in the 1930s? The sources I have provided support my claim that Soviet policy caused millions of deaths. Your rebuttal seems to be "there was no famine", "it was natural anyway" and "it woz teh Capitalists wot done it.…
/r/MensRights19/08/17 09:23 AM
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There is NEVER going to be evidence to convince you that the 'left' is less than morally pure, is there? You are projecting the characteristics of your argument onto mine. Not really. Look at this comment of yours: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6udamh/a_charlottesville_unite_the_right_protester/dlu0dvi/ We are discussing the Holodomor and Soviet culpability in millions of deaths. Your counter argument appears to be It was the West's fault, because sanctions/trade blockades. So far…
/r/MensRights19/08/17 08:43 AM
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So you accept that there were official sanctions on USSR, because they were communist. My source says there was trade during the famine western but countries would only accept grain, oil and timber and refused gold. In the 1920s, yes. But they ended, according to YOUR sources, long before the Holodomor. This 'fun' little exchange brings me back to my first point to you: There is NEVER going to be evidence to convince you that the 'left' is less than morally pure, is there? You have twisted and t…
/r/MensRights18/08/17 08:45 PM
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Which covers the period between June 1919 and January 1920. Your other source says: Within the framework of the treaties of Rapallo signed in 1922, Germany and the Soviet Union concluded a most-favoured nation agreement. It was the first of its kind and put an end to the political and economic isolation of the Soviet Union. The first German-Russian economic agreement of 1926 eased the situation considerably (emphases mine) Remember this? Droughts and famines in Russia and the Soviet Union tended…
/r/MensRights18/08/17 07:48 PM
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You are very ignorant of you don't know western capitalism puts economic sanctions on communist countries. So no sources then? You're right, I don't know "western capitalism puts economic sanctions on communist countries". In the same way I don't know that "Teh Jews did 911", or "jet planes are spraying chemicals to keep people docile", or "Gulf War 2 was sold to the people as a hunt for WMDs on outright lies." Oh wait, I do know that last one because there are sources to corroborate it: http://…
/r/MensRights18/08/17 07:06 PM
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Western Capitalist countries run trade blockaids on all communist countries. https://sputniknews.com/russia/201511121029956744-holodomor-hoax-ussr-ukraine-starikov/ Your source is an organisation criticised as a mouthpiece for Russian propaganda? According to Kevin Rothrock, Russia editor for Global Voices, Sputnik "acts as a spoiler to try and disrupt or blur information unfriendly to Russia, such as Russian troops' widely alleged involvement in the war in Ukraine." Historical comparisons have …
/r/MensRights18/08/17 05:55 PM
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My source omits the fact that western capitalist interests were running trade blackaids Then the west was NOT blockading. Hitchen's razor. backs up claim that the region experienced frequent famines Which could be ameliorated (and were, after 1947). Which raises the question, why didn't the State do so for the expected 1930s famine. They apparently knew it was coming. It also provides a lot of doubt to the claim there was an intentional genocide by the soviets. From your own source: Major causes…
/r/MensRights18/08/17 03:42 PM
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We know Trump became President with help from certain subs on Reddit Funny, I thought Trump became president because he got more electoral college votes than Clinton, and he got those because more people1 voted for him than her. It's odd, I remember some guy called Sanchez, no Sandwish, no SANDERS! who was predicted to beat Trump by miles but got fucked over by the DNC in favour of Hilary who, evidently, couldn't beat Trump. 1 More people where it counted.
/r/MensRights18/08/17 02:09 PM
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I guess I'm not as right wing as this sub is. Dafuq? Just because we don't agree with left-wing identity politics doesn't mean we agree with right-wing identity politics.
/r/MensRights18/08/17 02:01 PM
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I'm never gonna get a hard-on again without thinking of Futrella's little nubbin. Thank you SO much. ;)
/r/MensRights18/08/17 01:57 PM
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So the source established that there were natural famines. Your claim was a 1000 year cycle, your source does NOT support that claim. Period. Your source ALSO supports MY claim that government action led to those deaths. Now, as well as that capitalist interests were running trade blockaids, No source Liberals are by definition right wing. And by definition sexism = sex based discrimination + power, racism = race based discrimination + power, feminism is the advocacy of women's rights on the gro…
/r/MensRights18/08/17 01:56 PM
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You have a problem with denouncing running trade blockaids (sic) against countries that are experiencing famine. You've provided NO evidence for that claim. Backing the Nazi genocide O RLY? Remember THESE guys? https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lDZs442oqxA/maxresdefault.jpg I have no problem denouncing wrong doing. Then let's hear your criticism of the extreme left's violent censorious actions (without any attempt to shift the blame by painting Antifa as a right-wing group, because even if I accept your cl…
/r/MensRights18/08/17 01:50 PM
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Your own link says this: The second major Soviet famine happened during the initial push for collectivization during the 30s. Major causes include the 1932–33 confiscations of grain and other food by the Soviet authorities[1] which contributed to the famine and affected more than forty million people, especially in the south on the Don and Kuban areas and in Ukraine, whereby various estimates millions starved to death or died due to famine related illness (the event known as Holodomor). (emphasi…
/r/MensRights18/08/17 01:39 PM
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I don't think there is much credibility in what you are saying. I have, at least, provided sources. This is propaganda, the region was in a 1000 year cycle of famines. So it was entirely predictable? So your point is that the Soviet government was so inept that it could not plan for an expected shortfall in food production? Also, got a source for that "1000 year cycle" claim? According to the Encyclopedia Brittanica: The famine was a direct assault on the Ukrainian peasantry, which had stubbornl…
/r/MensRights18/08/17 01:17 PM
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I didn't even notice "Incoming Bullshit Tsunami" was the author until I scrolled down to the end looking for comments.
/r/MensRights18/08/17 11:03 AM
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Which is all evidence of... misogyny why men need feminism sexism in UNICEF, because men don't listen to girl's stories of abuse why men need feminism rape culture, because boys are 'incomplete men' so get treated like women why men need feminism any others? /s
/r/MensRights18/08/17 11:01 AM
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While there hasn’t been any rigid academic analysis of this phenomenon, sites like We Hunted the Mammoth Yeah... stopped reading there.
/r/MensRights18/08/17 10:55 AM
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There is a big moral difference between nazis, fascists and supremacists and people that oppose nazis, fascists and supremacists. Do you think the soviet union and to a lesser extent the allies were wrong when they defeated Nazi Germany? That is the biggest load of bullshit you have posted on this sub. Firstly: There is a big moral difference between 'wrongthinkers' and people that oppose 'wrongthinkers'. That may be. Frex, there are major differences between authoritarians and anti-authoritaria…
/r/MensRights18/08/17 10:52 AM
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UW physics associate Chanda Prescod-Weinstein disagrees, calling the memo a product of “shoddy science.” Campus Reform reported Monday that the researcher first voiced her argument on Slate before taking matters to Twitter, where she devalued the importance of peer-reviewed research. (emphases mine) So the science is wrong? Obviously the best place to correct bad science is... wait for it... apparently NOT peer-reviewed scientific journals. TIL. /s
/r/MensRights15/08/17 03:55 PM
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Due to the backslash, SJW are taking a step back to regroup and keep pushing. They don't want to lose the initiative on setting the discourse, so they are saying they agree with the general opinion The same way that the 'wage gap' is now evidence of how society pushes women into making 'inferior' life choices?
/r/MensRights13/08/17 07:49 PM
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The difference here is that people will argue against extreme opinions, even with (I know I've done it) people they are supporting on other threads regarding other issues. I don't think allowing 'wrongthink' is a negative here, because any post that gets linked will have a slew of responses arguing against. OTOH, there are people who won't link and just copypasta anything offensive. OTGH, those dishonest, quoting out of context people are more than capable of just outright lying and fabricating …
/r/MensRights13/08/17 07:39 PM
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Sorry, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Free Speech LAWS are a government issue. The First Amendment is, more specifically, a US government issue. Free speech, per se, is not. SJWs love to trot out the line, "freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences." Thing is, if there are consequences my speech is not free. It is constrained by fear.
/r/MensRights11/08/17 08:35 PM
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I meant when people are specifically discussing female victims and someone says something like "but men get raped too!" even though none of the people involved in the conversation were implying that men couldn't be raped. Trouble is, if we are discussing rape and I mention male victims and you (generally, not Skitten219 specifically) lose your shit, then you ARE implying that men can't be victims. A reasonable response to "what about male victims" would be something like, "yes, male victims as w…
/r/MensRights10/08/17 10:06 PM
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7. Rates of suicide are twenty times greater among adults who use cross-sex hormones and undergo sex reassignment surgery, even in Sweden which is among the most LGBQT – affirming countries. Not this shit again. They are misrepresenting a study, http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885&type=printable, for this claim. Yes, the suicide rate for post-op trans people (who are psychiatric in-patients) IS 20x higher than the cis population. That doesn't tell you an…
/r/MensRights08/08/17 10:47 PM
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stop trolling for [someone who did something gender related you dislike]…because attacking them isn’t going to change a thing Feminists should take note.
/r/MensRights08/08/17 07:33 PM
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The more she veers into fascist territory the less credible a spokesperson she will be for men's rights. Even if I accept the trend of dismissing GWW as a libertarian, that doesn't make her a fascist. That's the way the extreme left behaves. Disagree with a feminist talking point? Hate women. Think BLM rhetoric sounds like segregation? Racist. Disagree with some antiFa BS? Fascist. And I'm a speaking as a 'lefty myself, just in case you were thinking of throwing the 'F' word at me. So, with all …
/r/MensRights05/08/17 05:14 PM
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If you mean the nonsense Karen Straughan is spouting, which she presumably garnered from some far right tabloid site like Breitbart, then go ahead and the read the article I linked. Sorry, but no. Firstly, got a source for the claim that GWW got her info from the 'wrong' source? You say: The best article written about Khadr's hellish life is probably this Rolling Stones piece, and link to: https://freeomar.ca/articles/the-unending-torture-of-omar-khadr-rolling-stone/ You do realise this is MensR…
/r/MensRights03/08/17 10:37 PM
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I'm talking about the real world. Do you know what that is? Oh, do tell. We're all agog to see your RL actions. As for your question, you should check /r/Outside.
/r/MensRights31/07/17 04:46 PM
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Kid, you don't have to be subscribed here to be an MRA. Nobody said you did, but I find it odd that you claim to have been doing the 'heavy lifting' but you've done nothing to improve this sub. Yeah, I see you've been trolling Trump supporters and Christians. Have you been active on 2xC? SRS? MensLib? Spoken like a real man. Shaming language? Tut tut. Spoken like a feminist.
/r/MensRights31/07/17 04:27 PM
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I’m a Men’s Rights Activist/Warrior through and through and have been since I learnt as a kid of the hell that men go through in custody battles. So... about 5 minutes ago? Your account is 4 months old, yet you've not posted here before. A real MRA ONLY cares about the shit men have to endure in society So why not post something constructive instead of just shitposting? Be the change you want to see, and all that. I spent 1 minute subscribed here until I had to leave. Buh-bye.
/r/MensRights31/07/17 04:16 PM
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Way back I was watching Angry Harry and Rocking Mister E. I remember when "Feminism and the Disposable Male" was released. Please note, thats not me saying, "I've been around for ages so fuck you." My point is I was watching Stardusk, Barbarossa among others as well, and I never saw Chapin or RazorBlade. That's not to say they weren't there. My point is, they're not really 'big names'. OTOH MGTOW is not the MRM, nor vice versa. OTGH I've just been watching some Chapin this morning and, yes, I ca…
/r/MensRights31/07/17 09:31 AM
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Well, I'm not going to defend Sargon. I find his analyses weak, at best. I never claimed that libertarians have driven the MRM Not trying to imply you did, I'm still pondering whether I can agree with OP's headline.
/r/MensRights31/07/17 09:23 AM
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I'm gonna reply to you and /u/shloopyy at the same time, so I don't end up having the same conversation in two different places. So here we go :) tl;dr Ehh, still not convinced. shloopyy mentions Sargon who (AFAIK) considers himself on the left and not a libertarian. Y'all (excuse me) mention Razorbladekandy2, Bernard Chapin and Paul Joseph Watson. I've never heard of the first two before and Watson, from what I can see, is straight outa bat country. He's also not, again AFIK, an MRA. So I'm not…
/r/MensRights30/07/17 11:02 PM
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So I don't end up rambling all over the place, I'm going to reply to you, but in my reply to Ascendant-Dickwaffle, here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6qikbq/libertarians_the_mrm_part_i/dkxvx4m/
/r/MensRights30/07/17 10:47 PM
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However the current MRM leadership are mostly right-libertarians. Who would you consider the 'MRM leadership', and how would you describe them as libertarians?
/r/MensRights30/07/17 07:14 PM
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Is it really worth getting wound up by the sign? Probably not. OTOH (speaking generally) it is reasonable to point out hypocrisy. If I do something and you complain about it, then don't do it yourself. Of course, sexism = 'house painting' + penis, or some such ad hoc justification for, "It's only wrong when YOU do it."
/r/MensRights30/07/17 06:56 PM
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The Men's Rights Movement has been largely driven by the efforts of activist Libertarians That's begging a particularly egregious question. Is the MRM driven by libertarians? If so, who? Granted, we seem to have had an influx from The_Donald and libertarian subreddits, but that's recent.
/r/MensRights30/07/17 06:20 PM
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The archive page DOES contain a link to the original, though. SO we can, if we wish, go to the original. I'm personally in favour of archive links for a couple of reasons: Sometimes it's pro-feminist outrage the poster wants to discuss, but doesn't want to give clicks It captures what was said THEN, giving us an accurate record. Sometimes websites 'stealth edit' their content.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 11:41 AM
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It's good that someone 'big' is raising this issue. It's frustrating, though, the way he keeps getting close to making it a men's issue but falls back on 'people'. You know if the stats were reversed, he'd be making a huge fuss that "women are suffering".
/r/MensRights28/07/17 05:35 PM
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What about their two other sons who live, quite happily, as men?
/r/MensRights27/07/17 12:48 AM
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I usually go with 0.3%. It's a tiny fraction, either way, but not zero.
/r/MensRights27/07/17 12:44 AM
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Maybe there is that one percent chance that the child you talk of is Trans and this is the right course of action Actually, it's a 0.3% chance the kid is trans. What you are describing is, undoubtedly, abuse. It's a fair point. OTOH There's no evidence, beyond "two lesbians and a trans kid" that the mothers are forcing anything, and this story is 6 years old. I'm sure something would have come up by now. It still could, and if it does I'll change my position. OTGH You are one of a few who have a…
/r/MensRights27/07/17 12:03 AM
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Reasonable parents don't put their children through life-altering, risky surgery unless absolutely necessary, and it isn't necessary in the case of Dysphoria unless it prevents you from living a normal life and you can't get over it They weren't going to perform surgery 6 years ago. The kid may be on HRT now, but won't get surgery for another year when she turns 18. At the time the story first broke, 6 years ago, the kid was just about to go on blockers. Considering she still lives as a girl, it…
/r/MensRights26/07/17 11:53 PM
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I don't see the transphobia angle Stuff like this: http://archive.is/WuKNm Particularly: I wouldn't support a tranny because I hate them and think they're disgusting. And liars.
/r/MensRights26/07/17 11:44 PM
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The source you linked says about 0.6%. Anyhoo, it's good to see at least one other person has tried to present actual, y'know, facts. Thank you.
/r/MensRights26/07/17 11:38 PM
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highly unlikely chance that he identifies as a girl How unlikely? Do you know how many (by percent) people are trans?
/r/MensRights26/07/17 11:01 PM
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So... what? You'd agree that the child should have had blockers/HRT/SRS when they're too old to benefit? When their body is irreparably changed (too short or tall, shoulders too broad, chin too manly) and what can be changed will cost a LOT of money? At that point?
/r/MensRights26/07/17 10:34 PM
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Tell you what, prove it's child abuse and I'll absolutely change my position. But you have to account for the fact that this story is 6 years old. This is no longer the story of an 11 year old boy whose 'evil lezzie moms' are pushing him into a sex change. You have to account for the kid's two, happily 'cis-gendered' older brothers. You have to account for the fact that there is NOTHING, not one single story, online about the family being investigated by California CPS, despite the mandatory rep…
/r/MensRights26/07/17 10:27 PM
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Trannies are sick in the head. You don't tell a schizophrenic person the voices are real people. No. You'd tell them to take their meds. Problem is, right now, transition is the ONLY treatment for GID. Is it perfect? No. Does it reduce the suicide rate to 0? No. Is it all that there is? Yes, for now. So why would you not support a trans person? Even if I assume, arguendo, the implied argument that they are still just sick men then I would ask again, why wouldn't you support a man with a mental h…
/r/MensRights26/07/17 09:52 PM
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They will wind up hurting many more than they actually help. Prove it. Find a source. It is not even sufficiently proven that transitioning actually helps people with body dysmorphia. Of course it isn't proven. Any evidence presented to you can be dismissed as 'profit driven'. The risk of mentally, emotionally and physically damaging healthy children far outweighs any theoretical help for a tiny minority. Sources?
/r/MensRights26/07/17 09:38 PM
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Do you agree that it should be a criminal offense, punishable by a very long sentence to push kids into this? Specifically taking puberty delaying drugs. Yes. If proven that the child was coerced. OTOH, what would it take for you to admit that a child might NOT be being coerced and might, in fact, actually be trans?
/r/MensRights26/07/17 09:35 PM
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Allowing this kind of "treatment" might help some tiny minority, but will definitely be harmful to a much larger majority that are subjected to it needlessly. What is your evidence a "majority that are subjected to [transition] needlessly" exists? The stats I've seen, OK it's HuffPo but it has links to primary sources, puts trans regret at about 4%. OTOH, the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention says the suicide rate for trans people is about 40%. This isn't direct apples-to-apples. The AF…
/r/MensRights26/07/17 09:21 PM
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If the kid has mental problems then there are other ways to address them before chemically castrating them Like what? Bear in mind the AMA Journal of Ethics says: Nevertheless, GnRH agonists are an experimental treatment for pediatric GID, and children cannot be forced into receiving experimental treatment without their consent. Given this situation, are these prepubescent children able to provide consent for the treatment? Giordano says that they can, so long as the clinician discusses all pote…
/r/MensRights26/07/17 08:22 PM
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Delaying puberty and all of the heady experiences that make us men: discovering girls, becoming broader and stronger, our voices breaking, our penises never leaving us alone (and vice versa) Firstly, all that stuff that's so great about being a man; facial hair, deepening voice, getting taller (yes, all the sutff I enjoy about being a man) is going to be absolute hell for a trans girl. Hormone blockers lead to erasure of this at the time when it's normal to experience it. No shit, Sherlock. That…
/r/MensRights26/07/17 08:11 PM
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Can we, as MRAs, as members of the MensRights subreddit, stop with all this transphobic bullshit? This week we've had a slew of bullshit stories, linking bullshit articles by tradcons who consistently misrepresent science, current medical best practice and current medical ethics on treatment for transgender people and youths in particular. This story was posted a year ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4uczwu/lesbian_couple_in_california_chemically_alter/d5otu80/ It had the same r…
/r/MensRights26/07/17 07:40 PM
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I'd love to see the rest of that comment.
/r/MensRights25/07/17 08:15 PM
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But now women are all of a sudden too delicate for the front lines. But... but... biology is just my-soggy-knees. Gender don't real. Women can do EVERYTHING a patriarchal oppressor man can do. /s
/r/MensRights25/07/17 06:16 PM
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"husband caught her with another man in a bushy area" Tautology, surely. ;)
/r/MensRights25/07/17 12:21 PM
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What the hell does this have to do with Men's Rights?
/r/MensRights25/07/17 10:22 AM
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I'm surprised SHE only got 5 months considering the damage they did. surprised? really? /s
/r/MensRights24/07/17 07:20 PM
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How do certain (pro-feminist) subs get away with brigading? How do certain (pro-feminist) subs get away with banning people for their posts in other subs, despite Reddit's rules against that? How do certain (pro-feminist) subs get a free pass on hate speech? How do certain (pro-feminist) subs get away with posting ill-formed bullshit? I don't know. Perhaps there's a pattern there, but I can't see it... /s
/r/MensRights24/07/17 12:27 PM
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If you do, sir, I am for you: I serve as good a man as you.
/r/MensRights24/07/17 11:19 AM
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We should do nothing? I take your point, but I'm not saying we ignore it, just that we should sit back and observe. If we react, and right now any reaction would be an overreaction, then we are just 'feeding the trolls'. [edit to add] A coupla people have bitten. To be honest, it looks quite silly. There's no way this vvn_i has anything intelligent to say, no serious points and no serious counter-points. That sub is the embodiment of the line from War Games, "The only way to win is not to play."
/r/MensRights24/07/17 11:16 AM
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Kids make decisions based on why the parents want. Most parents can't get the kids to tidy their bedrooms.
/r/MensRights23/07/17 06:38 PM
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'manattaching'
/r/MensRights23/07/17 05:13 PM
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That I don't know what the fuck this has to do with Men's Rights.
/r/MensRights23/07/17 12:26 PM
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There's no actual content, just shitposts. The creator, vvn_i, is a 2 month acct. The sub itself has no activity, except for vvn_i. I think it's a troll account and sub, bait for MRAs to go apeshit over to prove how we are all misogynistic pissbabies etc etc. You know the rest of the script. I'd suggest we do nothing about it. If there's any actual support from radfems, then we have something to discuss. Even then any support would probably also be trolls.
/r/MensRights23/07/17 12:24 PM
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is it weird to argue that civil rights movements have been corrupted? Nope. It's deliberate. Look at how Women's Liberation 'became' feminism, how feminism overtook Gay Rights. Look at how SocJus activists destroyed Atheism, how they are undermining the Open Source community. What they've done to autistic and trans people, forcing them out of their own support/activist spaces if they don't toe the Critical Theory line. Arguably, calling this the MEN's Rights movement is probably the only thing s…
/r/MensRights23/07/17 08:47 AM
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Do you bite your thumb at me?
/r/MensRights23/07/17 08:33 AM
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And no mention of the 'manosphere' either. What were they thinking?
/r/MensRights22/07/17 10:39 AM
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Gamergate Alt-Right New Atheists MRAs Red Pillers MGTOW PUA Well props for not conflating MRAs with MGTOW and PUA... but then, who the hell are 'red pillers'? As for New Atheists, granted the article's a year old, but New Atheism died a LOOOONG time ago. Feminists killed it when they re-branded it Atheism+ in 2011-ish.
/r/MensRights22/07/17 09:52 AM
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Right now the top comment is calling out the sexism.
/r/MensRights21/07/17 05:31 PM
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One of the reasons: The way men are taught, through childhood, to be manly throughout their lives that nobody gives a shit about their problems FTFY
/r/MensRights21/07/17 01:20 PM
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It is possible for both men and women to be oppressed in different ways. It's also possible that neither are oppressed. Did you consider that? Maybe, just maybe, societies (and this is true of just about every culture that's advanced beyond hunter-gatherers) have different rights and responsibilities for men and women. Perhaps being protected, fed and sheltered by men isn't that bad when the alternative is going out into the fields, dealing with large animals and heavy equipment, and going to wa…
/r/MensRights21/07/17 01:16 PM
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No one gets extra time for not participating. Yes they do. It's not "the sentence is 90 days, 60 if you get snipped, but I'll make it 120 if you refuse" It's: 90 days in jail OR 60 days + vasectomy Choosing to not get snipped means an extra 30 days.
/r/MensRights21/07/17 10:31 AM
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It's only feminists that we have a problem with, due to their hatred of men and implacable opposition to men's rights. And feminists can be men. It's the unscientific, ahistorical ideology we take issue with, not individuals' identities.
/r/MensRights21/07/17 10:18 AM
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"Mayonnaise" & "Elmer's glue" work just as well. Any white goop, really. Sounds kinda NSFW...
/r/MensRights21/07/17 10:03 AM
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A left wing movement demanding genuine job creation (not trumps corporate welfare scam dressed up as job creation). Unionizing and so on. You are cray-cray if you think the left is going to go against feminism. Hillary "Women are the primary victims of war" Clinton ran on an explicitly feminist platform, the UK Labour party consistently pushes feminist talking points. The ONLY elected official I know of in the Anglosphere who could be called MRM-friendly is Philip Davies, a UK conservative polit…
/r/MensRights21/07/17 09:59 AM
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If men got smart and started demanding that it happens something would be done. There isn't any point in complaining about men being homeless while supporting policies that preclude helping homeless men. There is a guy who pops up on this sub from time to time, he's virulently anti-MGM. Virulent to the point that he's managed to get himself (and his many alts) banned. Banned because he comes in with a dictatorial attitude, "I think THIS about MGM and if you disagree with my position you are MGM …
/r/MensRights21/07/17 09:39 AM
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No probs. Anything else? Before you ask, the capital of Peru is Lima. :)
/r/MensRights20/07/17 07:51 PM
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Griffin didn't send RICIN to the president. She made a crappy, tasteless 'joke' (her word, not mine) and then started pissing and moaning because she got investigated (like, no shit Sherlock)... and everyone lost their shit because "Well, it was Trump, so of course they're going to throw the book at anyone who dares threaten him." Maybe, just maybe, the Secret Service goes after ANYBODY who threatens POTUS. Especially if the threats include attempted assasination, and I don't see how you can cla…
/r/MensRights20/07/17 07:44 PM
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What are you talking about? It was only recently that some 'D' lister was pissing and moaning after being question by the Secret Service for posting a pic posing with Trump's (supposedly) severed head. The Secret Service has no sense of humour over threats to POTUS' life.
/r/MensRights20/07/17 06:05 PM
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Not your personal army.
/r/MensRights20/07/17 05:22 PM
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Duluth Model?
/r/MensRights20/07/17 05:21 PM
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It was deregulation of banks that caused that recession, the US had pulled right back on direct investment in infrastructure by gov, and was reliant on the private sector - so when the private sector took a hit, it effected men worse. What the hell does that have to do with what I said? I never commented on the CAUSE of the 'mancession', ONLY on the way feminists derailed attempts to fix it. THAT is the pertinent point, that any laws or regulations aimed at 'helping men' would be protested, wate…
/r/MensRights19/07/17 11:11 PM
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The source of any funding is WAY DOWN the list of questions to worry about. Seriously. If a government wanted to help homeless men, they'd find the money somehow. /u/Demonspawn already told you that: any government action that helped "the homeless" would be written in such a way to help homeless women more than homeless men Look at what happened in America in, IIRC, 2009. Big recession, loadsa jobs lost, particularly in construction and engineering. It came to be known as the 'Mancession' Obama …
/r/MensRights19/07/17 10:52 PM
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If it's left-wing, we get 'struggle sessions' and the 'Gulags'. If right-wing, we get 'Forcible Disappearances' and 'Vernichtungslager'. Look at the 20th Century. Look at EVERY nation that went down that road and where they ended up: Russia, North Korea, China, Germany, Italy, Japan, most South American countries. A mix between private and gov controlled activity is best. Like the European mixed economies (including Britain)? They work reasonably well, but the states still does not interfere wit…
/r/MensRights19/07/17 10:27 PM
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Where do I stand on demanding government curtail corporate profits? 100% against. That would mean the government has the power to interfere with individual business decisions. We've seen what happens when governments (left or right) take control of industry. Want to raise corporate taxes? That's not unreasonable. Maybe it'd be better for governments to stop paying through the nose to feminist run DV organisations and use some of the savings to fund male-only, or gender-neutral shelters. I think …
/r/MensRights19/07/17 10:09 PM
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But there is a trans character in Ran, so it's not all bad. /s
/r/MensRights19/07/17 03:05 PM
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If I can find it again.
/r/MensRights19/07/17 11:55 AM
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I read an article recently which argued that discussing economic disparity was simply a misgoynistic derailing tactic to stop feminist/anti-racist/anti-whatever activism.
/r/MensRights19/07/17 11:38 AM
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I in fact do have a visceral negative reaction toward [women] Then, frankly, you're an idiot. You have the most apt username. Grow up.
/r/MensRights19/07/17 11:26 AM
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Audrey is totally different from feminism. One is a slimy thing that starts off apparently benign, destroys lives, demands ever more and more, and wants to ultimately take over the world. The other is a carnivorous plant.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 08:56 PM
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Apparently there's statistics showing that the younger generation utterly despise the left now I wouldn't be surprised. I'm fairly sure the majorities in most western nations hate the left. Look at how, as a society, we demonise, caricature, stereotype and insult the white, working class in ways that'd have the left in screaming fits were they applied to any other demographic. 'Redneck', 'white trash', 'chav'... look at the way the dems turned on Dean for daring to suggest they might try to conn…
/r/MensRights18/07/17 08:23 PM
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should we be blaming women? This is begging the question. Who says we blame women? We usually point to historical/evolutionary causes for gender roles. We then go on to argue that, since many of those historical issues no longer pertain, gender roles are an anachronism, that they should be done away with (ostensibly, this is also the feminist position). HOWEVER, we find that gender roles have relaxed for women and NOT for men. Why is this? Because feminist ideology mashes up historical observati…
/r/MensRights18/07/17 04:52 PM
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This one? https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/11/transgender-nhs-doctor-prescribing-sex-hormones-children-uk That's ridiculous. “He had been on puberty blockers since the age of nine,” nine year olds don't get puberty... unless it's precocious puberty, in which case they go on blockers until about 12-13. [edit to add] Still not evidence that Jolie is doing it.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 04:32 PM
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Well that's one definition, I don't think that's how I use it. The term cuck is a generic way of saying a man is working for the enemy, I guess like a man raising the son of another man who fucked his wife. So now you're 'humpty-dumptying'? You should learn to quit while you're behind. There is no comparison between women trying to shame men and men shaming other men. There is no DIFFERENCE between women trying to shame men and men shaming other men. FTFY It's still manipulation to try to get a …
/r/MensRights18/07/17 12:31 PM
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So what are your favorite liberal websites? That question is, frankly, silly. Fuck the mods. The are all admin stooges anyway and I have been here way longer than all of them combined. Really? Your 5 month old account doesn't indicate to me that you've been an MRA longer than, frex, TyphonBlue. But you did say this: We aren't going to change out position to pander to a bunch of liberal cucks. Do you even know what our position is? The fact that you use the insult 'cuck' suggests you don't. It's …
/r/MensRights18/07/17 11:49 AM
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The sad truth is that, in the whole world, the left doesn't care about workers and poor men anymore. They don't, unfortunately. They love The People. They just don't seem to like people that much.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 11:43 AM
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She's performing hormone therapy on a 12 year old? No. Doctors will prescribe HRT An 11 year old would only get puberty blockers until old enough to make a more informed decision whether to start HRT or stop transition (about age 16). The Playground only mentions 'hormone treatment' to block puberty. Yeah, a nice bit of 'outrage bait'.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 10:37 AM
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that kid looks way too fucking young to be undergoing hormone therapy! Which means he'll be taking (at most) puberty blockers until old enough to make a more informed decision whether or not to transition. If you have a source that shows that he is taking HRT let me know and I'll happily join you in the outrage. Bear in mind, the current medical opinion is (at least in the US): Nevertheless, GnRH agonists [puberty blockers] are an experimental treatment for pediatric GID, and children cannot be …
/r/MensRights18/07/17 10:29 AM
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liberal=feminist Bullshit. I'm definitely a liberal, but here I am criticising feminism, SJW idiocy and that whole faux-Marxist Critical Theory post-modern crap (and Marxism). Then again, Mister MRABob, you're a liberal too unless you want to tear down democracy. Are you a feminist? Nah, didn't think so. [edit to add] YOU ARE A FUCKING CONCERN TROLL AND CONCERN TROLLS ARE BANNED HERE SO FUCK OFF. Really? Who the fuck made YOU the gatekeeper for this sub? You're not a mod.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 10:09 AM
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Any other liberal leaning people get tired of the extreme anti-liberal position of the seeming majority of this sub? Nope. Because I don't see THIS: extreme anti-liberal position
/r/MensRights18/07/17 08:54 AM
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Women can even be Ghostbusters. Not a good comparison to bring up, seeing as that film was a great steaming turd.
/r/MensRights18/07/17 08:52 AM
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That's sufficiently vague so that we can all agree nobody can disagree with it. FTFY
/r/MensRights18/07/17 08:44 AM
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This is the Force vs. the Vancian casting system (try making that analogy any nerdier,I dare you). The article is arguing which class/level system is best (D&D vs MERP), we're playing My Life With Master. (try making that analogy any nerdier,I dare you). How'd I do?
/r/MensRights18/07/17 07:25 AM
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I'm not trying to disparage men's problems, Yeah, you are. just saying the way it is oft used today in the media is not to fight for men's rights or to give men a higher standard of living, but to discredit feminist talking points. The ONLY way the media discusses MRAs is as "loser, neckbeard, woman hating, etc etc ad nauseum" and to dismiss men's issues. Look at what's happening today. The US government is reevaluating Title IX and OMG, some politician is talking to 'rape apologists'.
/r/MensRights17/07/17 10:17 PM
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Furthermore, rather than seeing feminism as useless, oppressive, and harmful to men, I argue that the MRA movement needs to acknowledge and adopt the feminist concept of privilege pioneered by feminism in order to fully realize and fight the oppression of men and women alike. Nope. Society is not an oppressor/oppressed dichotomy split along gender lines. Stopped reading there. If you get the basis for your argument flat-out wrong, the rest is worthless bloviation.
/r/MensRights17/07/17 10:10 PM
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Oh look, another feminist (I see you're a 2XC poster) come to tell us that we're "doing it wrong". Often touted around by MRA's are the issues of rape, suicide rate, workplace deaths, and custody battles. Don't get me wrong; I agree with MRA's on these issues, at least to a certain extent. <snip> these issues are not used as something to help men get equal rights, but are more used as a tactic to try and hush feminists and women's rights activists. To a certain extent? That's really very graciou…
/r/MensRights17/07/17 09:57 PM
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“the point we are trying to make is that important research done by traditionally marginalized voices…is often ignored by 'mainstream' and very well-established scholars—which means, in geography at least, white male Marxists.” (emphasis mine) Oh the irony of people who base their ENTIRE world (and academic) view on a variation of the Marxist idea of societies as an oppressor/oppressed dynamic criticising Marxists. They caution, however, that this approach entails a certain risk of “basing assum…
/r/MensRights17/07/17 03:05 PM
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they could have Clara appear more often with her own TARDIS, or even make a spinoff just for her They already did that. It was called Doctor Who. /s Srsly, though: so you're ok with them removing men to shoehorn in women just to push their political ideology Nope. The Doctor's been a male character as long as I remember, and I grew up with Pertwee and Tom Baker. It's part of his identity. There have been strong female characters, both human and Time Lord, in the show before and they were great. …
/r/MensRights16/07/17 08:53 PM
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Which means she'll be out in 5, receiving a 'bravery' award for all the abuse she will somehow turn out to have suffered from her 'abusive' boyfriend. /s
/r/MensRights16/07/17 04:28 PM
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what's going on? From the article: A married Catholic school teacher has been jailed for just 23 months after pleading guilty to having sexual relations with two of her female teenage students. From another comment of yours: when a teacher raped a 16 year old boy it was an "affair" and the word "abuse"mentioned exactly 0 times That's what's going on.
/r/MensRights16/07/17 08:51 AM
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Columbia University Has Settled A Lawsuit With The Man Accused CLEARED Of Raping who didn't rape "Mattress Girl"
/r/MensRights15/07/17 06:40 PM
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More than 20 percent of female undergrads at an array of colleges said they were victims of sexual assault and misconduct, according to a 2015 survey by the Association of American Universities. So the lesson here is, apparently, that American parents shouldn't send their daughters to American universities, where rape is as prevalent as in the Congo. O rly?
/r/MensRights15/07/17 02:02 PM
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Male privilege does not exist. You cannot simultaneously benefit from and be oppressed by the same system. FTFY /s I love the way she says one can't be oppressed by AND privileged by 'a system', then goes right on to claim that you can.
/r/MensRights15/07/17 07:57 AM
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Don't DON'T, for the love of all that is holy, read the comments unless you have an industrial sized barrel of insulin handy.
/r/MensRights13/07/17 08:45 PM
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Some might posit here that while not desirable at least a represents a change in the way female paedophiles are viewed by society. Dunno. Look at the comments. All excusing her.
/r/MensRights13/07/17 03:39 PM
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But what all of these men share in common, even my sons, is a relentless questioning and disbelief of the female experience. Nah... But what all of these men share in common, even my sons, is feminists relentlessly dismissing and mocking the male experience. FTFY
/r/MensRights13/07/17 02:00 PM
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Does every effing feminist own a rapist, like they are keeping psychological slaves or something ? Or a pet? That implied ownership or relationship sounds kinda unhealthy, like it's acceptance of the act. This my rapist. There are many like it, but this one is mine. /s
/r/MensRights13/07/17 01:39 PM
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my rapist stereotypes... homosexual promiscuity I'm assuming same sex rape, then. So... either "women don't rape" (sucks to be lesbian, huh) or "men can't be victims". You might wanna tell your friend which ideology pushes THOSE particular viewpoints.
/r/MensRights13/07/17 11:44 AM
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Especially if we got on board with the RadFem calls for gendercide. No men, no men's problems.
/r/MensRights12/07/17 10:49 AM
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and no self-identified feminist has EVER dismissed men's issues, frex suicide, by saying "cry me a river" have they?
/r/MensRights12/07/17 10:47 AM
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In other news, your dog wants steak.
/r/MensRights11/07/17 09:17 PM
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I was watching Ben Shapiro argue against a weenie who called Trump a fascist/nazi. I disagreed with Shapiro's argument which basically boiled down to "Hitler wasn't a fascist he was a socialist like Stalin who was a fascist." Huh? But I realised, Trump isn't a fascist. He is, literally, a liberal. He's not anti-democratic, he's not trying to force state control of the economy, he's not using secret police to quash dissent. He's at the right end of liberalism, but he's as much a fascist as Sander…
/r/MensRights11/07/17 01:46 PM
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Now, if a man had done this, he would surely have been convicted of sexual assault I wonder how much of a brainfuck it was for the court: "womon offender! Activate the Pussy Pass-o-tronTM " vs "womon victim! stwike him cenuwion, vewwy woughly!"
/r/MensRights11/07/17 12:32 PM
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Only thing I'd disagree with is this: Liberalism isn't about being right. Actually, liberalism IS about being right. It's about finding the best, among competing ideas. It's also about democracy, personal liberties, human rights etc etc... in the sense that Western nations are founded on liberal principles. PC culture isn't liberal. Far from it.
/r/MensRights11/07/17 11:23 AM
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Just because an authority says X doesn't make a contrary opinion wrong. No. Lack of evidence makes the contrary opinion wrong. It does negatively affect the body to not have hormones of either kind in your body. Red herring, the evidence suggests that children who take puberty blockers and then decide NOT to transition go through normal natal puberty. Later, yes, but they go through all the normal developmental stages. Just because something doesn't affect me doesn't mean I can't have an opinion…
/r/MensRights11/07/17 12:26 AM
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Do I have to be to have an opinion? As you're arguing that your opinion is better/more informed than the entire American medical establishment? Yeah, pretty much. Chemical castration? Well that involves Medroxyprogesterone acetate not Leuprorelin, so the comparison you propose is tenuous at best. OTOH Leuprorelin, like DMPA, is reversible although without the long-term effects of DPMA. So even if I accept, arguendo, your position that puberty blockers are 'chemical castration', then what? The ef…
/r/MensRights10/07/17 08:40 PM
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Harriet Harman's proposed ban on sexual history evidence would be grotesquely unfair to men FTFY
/r/MensRights10/07/17 06:58 PM
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there are no bad actions, only bad targets and let's be honest, penis == good target (at least by their definition)
/r/MensRights10/07/17 06:05 PM
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Two things: Got a linky to that story? I vaguely remember it. (Not "facts or GTFO" genuine question) Should've been clearer. There are no long term -ves IF you stop transition. In about 3-6 months regular puberty kicks in. Yeah, there's negatives to transition treatments. It's just that, on the whole, the positives for trans people outweigh the negatives.
/r/MensRights10/07/17 05:58 PM
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I read the article and saw no references to peer reviewed research on the negative effects of puberty blockers on psych development. I think any treatment for gender dysphoria should wait until 16 or beyond. So what? Are you a pediatrician? Endocrinologist? Child psychologist? I think there's other ways we need to research how to manage it in children, other than chemically castrating them for a period of time. Firstly, it's not chemical castration. It's slowing development of adult sex characte…
/r/MensRights10/07/17 05:39 PM
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OMG! So funny! /s I feel genuinely sick after reading that.
/r/MensRights10/07/17 05:20 PM
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we don't know if there's any potential long term issues that can be caused from stunting psychological and sexual development You have evidence that puberty blockers stunt psychological growth? I mean peer-reviewed evidence. The problem is we don't know if these drugs are cancerous or have negative psychological or physical effects. Leuprorelin has been used to treat precocious puberty since 1985. I think 32 years is long enough to notice any long-term adverse effects. Puberty blocking is essent…
/r/MensRights10/07/17 05:11 PM
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Emma Sulkowicz made a malicious rape accusation against a fellow student who was later exonerated. She then spent the next few years dragging a mattress around campus repeating her allegations. She received an award for 'bravery' from the National Organization of Women. Presumably for her boundless bravery in facing no repercussions for smearing a fellow student with baseless and malicious rape accusations. /s
/r/MensRights10/07/17 04:18 PM
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Sorry, but you are mistaken. The current ethical position of the American Medical Association is that: Puberty blockers have no long-term adverse affects on the body. "Once these children, who are already experiencing considerable distress over their gender incongruence, undergo the pubertal development of the “wrong” sex, their psychological well-being deteriorates significantly, and many develop depression and suicidal ideation" " the child will achieve a “more normal and satisfactory appearan…
/r/MensRights10/07/17 04:05 PM
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tl;dr Do you live in the real world? Then you don't live in a patriarchy. Good find OP. Bookmarked ready for the next feminist "looking to start a discussion".
/r/MensRights10/07/17 03:22 PM
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Well yeah... it's not like these 10 issues are comparable to actual misgyny, frex: Being near a man who is sitting comfortably Having a man patiently explain why a woman is mistaken Being invited for coffee Not being as popular with cinema goers as a male actor not being able to fuck 14 year old boys without some MRA pissbaby calling it 'rape' Being expected to go to prison for committing crimes Being expected to miss time with your children so they can spend that time with their father Having t…
/r/MensRights10/07/17 02:41 PM
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There's a difficulty in trying to "measure" it. I still think women come up short by most measures and that's where we disagree. Yes. We disagree because I don't believe we can make sweeping social judgements, start movements and formulate political policies and laws based on "I think women still come up short." Absent evidence, it's just ideology. All the examples you gave there, including men dying all the time, are largely caused by patriarchy. A patriarchy that does NOT EXIST. You (not just …
/r/MensRights10/07/17 12:19 PM
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The dictionary definition of feminism, that we see repeated ad nauseum here is, "the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes." Were that the case then, yes, we would be on the same side. EXCEPT that definition is, at best, superficial and, at worst, deliberate misrepresentation of the ideology. One thing you cannot avoid is Patriarchy Theory. That is at the core of feminism. In Shaw & Lee’s (2012) textbook, Women’s Voices: Feminist Visions (5th edition), they define…
/r/MensRights10/07/17 10:24 AM
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Eh, potato pot-AH-to. :D
/r/MensRights09/07/17 07:01 PM
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But but... muh oppreshunz... What about my-soggy-knees? Obviously the fact that everyone is running around like headless chickens over "bias against women" is prima facie evidence FOR that bias.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 06:20 PM
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Be sexually abused as a child and have nobody care. Be circumcised.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 06:00 PM
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Written by: Kelseigh Ingram, Contributor Aspiring playwright and cultural critic Ah, someone's jealous of Laci's popularity and wants to make a name kicking Laci when she's (metaphorically) down.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 04:57 PM
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I don't think it's really a defection Not defection, heresy. Still, so to speak, Christian but denies the Trinity.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 04:55 PM
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I looked up the study in question So it looks like women account for approx 20-30% of above the line crew on indie films. So that would put their festival wins (25%) right there. No story here folks, only narrative.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 04:44 PM
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My personal position, as someone who studied gender studies and feels comfortable in the post-modern theories, is that the issue is a matter of social constructs. Ah, so no truck with pesky facts and shit.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 04:02 PM
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despite submissions both male and female directors being roughly equal I don't see the bit about the number of submissions being 50/50 male/female. What I do see is her claim that films directed by men are three times more likely to be accepted into festivals. But that's dishonest without stats on the gender split in submissions. Even that's debatable. The film industry exists to make money, and it appears that audiences want 'guy films' so that's what the distributors buy.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 03:50 PM
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and if she still passes? Then what? Shoot her in the leg?
/r/MensRights09/07/17 02:49 PM
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50lbs is nothing for a grown ass man Yeah, that's why there's a 100% pass rate on the course... oh wait...
/r/MensRights09/07/17 02:39 PM
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So your point is that a test that only 13% of 'Screaming Eagles' can pass is too easy because a woman can do it? This is ridiculous. She completed the test, to the same standard as the men who took it, and passed. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEYIzqaVrJw This guy made the run, and credits it to the other soldiers around him supporting him. Then there's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPcYPS92W2o There's also these counterpoints to your "70% of people in the US are overweight…
/r/MensRights09/07/17 02:00 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert_Field_Medical_Badge The pass rate for FY 2013 was 19%, making the EFMB one of the most difficult and prestigious Army special skill badges to earn. Hey, Wikipedia's full of feminist idiots. What does the US army say? FORT CAMPBELL, Ky. -- Over 185 medical Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), started the process to earn the Army's Expert Field Medical Badge at the Medical Simulation Training Center here July 27. In the end, only 25 Screamin…
/r/MensRights09/07/17 12:32 PM
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Pretty much. You should never snitch on a bro, either to fellow guys or gals I'd also suggest that nobody makes up a bro code like this unless they plan to do 'dodgy shit'.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 11:32 AM
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Schizophrenia doesn't work because it not something they address a a minority in their narratives. Sshhh, don't give them ideas.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 09:53 AM
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Making an indie film means just that, it's independent. No experienced script editors, no Hollywood producers who can help finesse your story into something interesting. You're on your own (pretty much) and you can fuck up big time. If you manage to make something decent, yeah you can get big bucks (and blockbuster movies). But the likelihood is you'll produce a pile of crap that's not even good enough for DtV. So which gender is, statistically, more risk taking? And which is more risk averse?
/r/MensRights09/07/17 09:31 AM
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You keep posting Zuzanna's videos. I think someone has a crush. :) Srsly, good find. I like her humour.
/r/MensRights08/07/17 08:24 PM
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As in over 50% are currently serving, or are combat veterans? No. In that the author is TECHNICALLY correct. In the context "Indeed, since World War II, there have been zero wars between great powers — a remarkable anomaly in recorded history, " the author's comment is glib. Chinese troops fought US troops in Korea. Sure Russia and the USA have never gone toe-to-toe, but there have been plenty of wars around the world with both involved. Lots of itty-bitty proxy wars. Sure, Europe's generally be…
/r/MensRights08/07/17 07:09 PM
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Most Americans alive today have neither fought in war nor made any sacrifice for war. O rly? Korea? Vietnam? Grenada? Iraq (twice)? Afghanistan? Any of these ring a bell? If you can get something so simple wrong, how can anyone trust anything else you say?
/r/MensRights08/07/17 05:28 PM
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Women committing suicide is a problem that can't be directly blamed on men. Let me try... hmmm... How about: Male violence is so endemic in society that "strong womynz who don't need no man" have internalised the misogyny to the point they will commit murder on themselves. Female suicide is a symptom, and statistic, of male violence against womyn. /s
/r/MensRights07/07/17 09:37 AM
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Don't be silly. Wymminz don't own property, remember? /s
/r/MensRights07/07/17 08:59 AM
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I figured he wasn't going against the majority so much as seeing the discussion a different way. I guess, as of now, a lot of other posters are going the same way; ie by 'abused' I meant tenants abusing the law to break leases. I did, in fact, intend to mean abusive women abusing the law to exert control over their partner (male, female or whatever) through threat of homelessness.
/r/MensRights06/07/17 07:57 PM
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I would never understand the horror of being a woman. Some man on the train might have been sitting with his legs spread too wide...
/r/MensRights06/07/17 07:19 PM
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Serious reply, and I hope you don't get more downvotes, because I think you are right... to a point. The point being that DV laws are already skewed in favour of women and against men. Should DV victims have better support like this? Yes. It must suck to flee abuse, have to live in a shelter and then be stuck because you can't rent again because you broke a lease. OTOH, it's way easy for a woman to report, file, get court orders, in cases of alleged abuse. They already have plenty of shelters. M…
/r/MensRights06/07/17 06:47 PM
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OMG indeed Master Bateman. :) sorry, couldn't resist...
/r/MensRights06/07/17 06:40 PM
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Sure. Because NO female abuser would EVER use this as a threat. Never say something like, "I can go to the DV shelter and make you homeless." Apologies for tone. Dunno how to word it better. The snark is not aimed at /u/thekanator.
/r/MensRights06/07/17 06:10 PM
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See. You CAN argue a point without coming across as a troll. You just made two REASONABLE counter arguments to a (fake) anti-intactivist without insulting them, or 'shouting' "INFECTED DETECTED". OK, you were perhaps overly terse, but the point remains; THAT is how you reach people who disagree with you and THAT is how you/we move towards banning this disgusting practice. Bear in mind, everyone on this sub including me already knows and agrees with those points. We also know other common pro- an…
/r/MensRights06/07/17 06:07 PM
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The scar on my dick is evidence. The thing you're missing is; I care. Every MRA cares about the scar on your dick. Not being sarcastic, we want to ban MGM. It's a barbaric practice. But suppose some proMGM type were to respond: Parents routinely make decisions that overrride their child's bodily autonomy. What if the child requires heart surgery, frex? Studies show that MGM reduces HIV/AIDS? Do you want AIDS? Do you want your son to get AIDS? I bet you're one of those crazy anti-vaxxers. How wou…
/r/MensRights06/07/17 05:54 PM
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Anyone silencing a MGM victim, is an apologist. Anyone asking for evidence that a woman was raped is a rape apologist. FTFY Not a troll at all, just disgusted at the toxicity of this sub. YOU are the 'toxicity in this sub', dumbass. Oh, and answer my question, if you can. How can we argue against the claim that MGM reduces HIV/AIDS?
/r/MensRights06/07/17 05:35 PM
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Male genital mutilation = Rape and mutilation. Doctors should be arrested for raping and mutilating children regardless. That's the first intelligent thing you've said... and I agree. However, you led with this: Male genital mutilation is NOT legal! That's a positive claim, and it's up to you to provide evidence. If it were illegal police would be arresting doctors who performed it. People wouldn't be posting pics of their kids' Bris on Facebook. Intactivists would not exist, they would not need…
/r/MensRights06/07/17 05:20 PM
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Grow up. If you're serious, then stop acting like a fucking feminist. I never said, "Rape and mutilation are legal." I said MGM is legal. Would I count MGM as mutilation? Yes. Should it be banned? Yes. Should doctors who perform it be arrested and charged? If banned, yes. But trying to discuss the issues, trying to find better ways to spread the intactivist PoV, trying to convince others, is NOT APOLOGIA dickhead. Also, consider this. If you're genuine then attacking the one group of people most…
/r/MensRights06/07/17 04:45 PM
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Grow up. If you're serious, then stop acting like a fucking feminist. I never said, "Rape and mutilation are legal." I said MGM is legal. Would I count MGM as mutilation? Yes. Should it be banned? Yes. Should doctors who perform it be arrested and charged? If banned, yes. But trying to discuss the issues, trying to find better ways to spread the intactivist PoV, trying to convince others, is NOT APOLOGIA dickhead. Also, consider this. If you're genuine then attacking the one group of people most…
/r/MensRights06/07/17 04:42 PM
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This troll is one seriously sick fuck. I mean it, seriousy fucked in the head. Routine infant circumcision aka MGM is a barbaric practice and should be banned. 100%, no ifs and buts. OTOH, it is NOT illegal. I wish it was, but it ain't. Doctors do not routinely perform illegal operations; they get arrested, charged, and lose their licenses and their comfy lifestyle if they do. Some do, like that FGM doc. Look what's happening to them. Notice how it ain't happening to Mohels or pediatricians. OTG…
/r/MensRights06/07/17 04:28 PM
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OP's article references this: Domestic violence half-yearly update: The numbers we need to know. Which includes little gems like this: At minimum, one in every five women and one in every 20 men have been "forced or frightened into unwanted sexual activity" over their lifetime. At least 1 in 5 Aussie women have been sexually assaulted. Wow, apparently Oz is as rapey as the Congo. TIL /s As Jess Hill, who has done outstanding work on uncovering the horrors of Family Court rulings, wrote about the…
/r/MensRights06/07/17 04:03 PM
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In order to understand the faults of the most prominent members of The Manosphere, we should understand what The Manosphere stands against. That's begging the question. Do 'prominent members of the Manosphere' have faults? Even that's a flawed question. What is the 'Manosphere'? Does it even exist? Are there 'leaders'? Who are they? Are they flawed? I, for one, reject the concept of the 'manosphere'. It is, IMHO, a silly concept suggesting that men's problems exists somewhere 'out there', away f…
/r/MensRights05/07/17 07:00 PM
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So how does someone deal with posts like comparing breastfeeding in public to 'manspreading'? Reply that both are non-issues. Babies need feeding and I would argue that if you get het up over a kid sucking on a boob in public, that's YOUR problem and neither the kid nor the mum need to accommodate your hang ups. I know that's harsh, but you can look away from a boob, it's not easy to ignore a screaming child. You're wired to pay attention. As for manspreading, if you can't ask someone to move on…
/r/MensRights05/07/17 12:24 PM
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Saying that someone is wrong because they are lying to push an ideological position is not an ad hominem. Nor, before you think to mention it, am I using guilt by association. I'm not saying McHugh is wrong because he, personally, is a tradcon (that'd be the ad hominem bit). I'm saying he is wrong because he is basing his claim on a deliberate misrepresentation of a scientific study and further, that he is doing so to push an ideologically based viewpoint. He is not 'honestly mistaken', he is be…
/r/MensRights05/07/17 09:54 AM
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How about I follow the scientific consensus about the correct treatment of people with gender dysphoria? Or rather, how about I cede the argument on the right way to treat dysphoric people to those who spend their lives studying the phenomena, best practice and the ethics? OTOH, this Dr McHugh is not one of those people. He's a tradcon ideologue pushing an agenda; misquoting studies, misrepresenting their conclusions, and dishonestly citing his own actions to stop SRS treatment at John Hopkins a…
/r/MensRights04/07/17 04:56 PM
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if you have the talent of Al Pacino and are really lucky you might get away with it Or Tom Cruise. OTOH, there's a shit ton of good looking guys who don't become stars (anyone remember Casper Van Diem or Brendan Fraser?). There's also a ton of hot actresses; Theron, Gadot, Johanssen. Maybe, just maybe, directors are looking for talent that can actually, y'know, ACT?
/r/MensRights04/07/17 09:21 AM
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Respectfully, but I disagree. For MtF, they're born male (If you're anti-trans, like this Dr McHugh then they are still men), ergo, deserving of our support as they struggle with a terrible mental condition. How can we claim we support men's mental health and well-being, but then add the caveat "Except THIS specific condition because reasons". For FtM, they're becoming men so deserving of our support. We don't dismiss the concerns of boys becoming men and learning to navigate a gynocentric world…
/r/MensRights04/07/17 09:13 AM
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There was a coupla threads by someone called something like FUCKMGM, seemed inflammatory. There was another "I just want to have a discussion" thread, by someone who flounced after they got responses they didn't like and deleted the thread themself. That seems to be it. I don't see mods being proMGM.
/r/MensRights04/07/17 09:04 AM
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He's using the data to support his statement. He doesn't appear to be saying the study reached the same conclusion. Where? OP's article refers to an ESSAY, published by a 'Conservative Think Tank'. Specifically this essay: http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/06/15145/ There is no analysis in that essay, no references to analyses. He's not using data. Find me something where McHugh actually runs the data to support his thesis and I'll change my mind. OTOH, the Witherspoon Institute is a tradit…
/r/MensRights04/07/17 08:45 AM
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Bollocks. In OP's article McHugh uses the Swedish study to support his statement: “Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers,” said McHugh. The authors of the Swedish study explicitly states it cannot be used to draw that conclusion, it is purely informative because, as you point out, the variable in question isn't isolated. Ergo McHugh is misrepresenting the study. Ergo his concluci…
/r/MensRights03/07/17 10:32 PM
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You look at suicide rates for those who do and do not receive the reassignment. And the study explicitly states it cannot be used that way. Specifically: For the purpose of evaluating the safety of sex reassignment in terms of morbidity and mortality, however, it is reasonable to compare sex reassigned persons with matched population controls. The caveat with this design is that transsexual persons before sex reassignment might differ from healthy controls (although this bias can be statisticall…
/r/MensRights03/07/17 09:16 PM
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Bullshit. from the article: When “the tumult and shouting dies,” McHugh continued, “it proves not easy nor wise to live in a counterfeit sexual garb. The most thorough follow-up of sex-reassigned people—extending over 30 years and conducted in Sweden, where the culture is strongly supportive of the transgendered—documents their lifelong mental unrest.” That Sweddish study is here: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885&type=printable Contrary to what the li…
/r/MensRights03/07/17 05:47 PM
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To be generous to OP, try going to 2XC to have this discussion or any feminist sub. You'd be right to expect incivility there. OTOH, to OP expect to get serious answers, just don't expect to be treated with kid gloves. We assume people posting here are adults and have their big kid pants on.
/r/MensRights03/07/17 11:56 AM
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Take every argument against FGM and gender swap it (frex: http://www.path.org/files/FGM-The-Facts.htm): note, I'm going use the phrase MGM to refer to routine, medically unnecessary circumcision of males because, by definition, unnecessary surgical procedures are mutilation. Newborns, Children, Adolescents, and Young Adults Are Affected in what way is mutilating newborn boys better than mutilating newborn girls? Yes, it's inflammatory language, but that is what MGM acceptance implies; that MGM i…
/r/MensRights03/07/17 11:45 AM
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Like the coffee cup holder that came with my PC? :D
/r/MensRights03/07/17 11:21 AM
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The site is for adults.. clearly you wouldn't last long there. What a convincing response! /s I looked at your video; selling a social network with scantily clad women? Really? In current year? No girls allowed? facepalm.jpg The silliest thing you have done is post this in /r/MensRights, /r/TheRedPill might be a better fit and TBH I feel that's a bit unfair on PUAs. Srsly, you respond to criticism with name calling? How are you going to deal with RL feminist criticism? Because they will rip you …
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:00 PM
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a place for men to share, shop, suggest and surf Shop? SHOP!?!?!?!?! Dafuq? Do you even men? THE FOLLOWING ARE NOT ALLOWED ACCESS TO THIS WEBSITE OR SPACE: Women, Children, Adolescents, Teenagers, Persons with poor judgment and disrespect. Come back when you start growing your big boy hair.
/r/MensRights02/07/17 03:48 PM
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Under US law, female perpatrators of both statutory AND forced sexual assault can sue the male victim in question for child support. Thing is, it's not the 'mother' suing the father. It's the state. IMO one of the biggest problems with child support law is that it's NOT the parents (OK, sometimes it is) but state beaurocrats, who don't give a damn about the people involved. Child support is (at least in AZ) the one exception to the rule that civil cases should go through mediation first, so the …
/r/MensRights01/07/17 12:50 PM
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"...attacked me as if I were a male ..." Is she saying she got more money? Nah, she's saying she got hit harder. That lovely male privilege in action.
/r/MensRights30/06/17 07:03 PM
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A coupla years back I would've said it was all being led by the kid. Today, though, I'm not sure. I'm pro trans rights (actual trans people, not the Tumblr transflakes) but I see too many stories about 'hip' parents wanting gay or trans kids to (although THEY wouldn't use the term) 'be cool'. OTOH I'm still willing to give mommy the benefit of the doubt. OTGH That's a separate issue, though still a valid question, from the article's "OMG! She's gonna cut off her son's dick!" hyperbole.
/r/MensRights30/06/17 10:55 AM
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FFS can people read the fucking article BEFORE getting outraged? It's from a parent of a trans child (MtF). The kid'll probably go on puberty BLOCKERS in their early teens until old enough to make an informed choice. That's considered best practice by doctors. If, and ONLY IF, the kid decides to continue with transition they go onto hormone treatments and THOSE can make one sterile. So mum's plan is to plan ahead for that eventuality. That's it. It's not some radfem wanting to emasculate their s…
/r/MensRights30/06/17 09:00 AM
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When universities stop blocking the formation of Men's rights groups on campus or even (excuse my trip to fantasy land) set up their own "Men's Services and Resources" departments.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 04:10 PM
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It's just that men's rights activism is becoming a victim to the Propaganda machine, it's becoming a punchline. Sorry, but that ship has sailed. Nothing we do, for good or ill, will be represented fairly. It'll all be "OMG MRA == literal Hitler!". That said, yeah it's a boob joke. Why not? I'm not making any value judgement on her body, nor her choice to flaunt it. Props to her, in fact, for doing what looks like 'feminist' activism (ie getting your tits out for the girls) for the benefit of Men…
/r/MensRights29/06/17 04:06 PM
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Aww... that sounds so sweet. It's great to see a story where women bond and rediscover their shared humanity. /s(ociopathy)
/r/MensRights29/06/17 03:56 PM
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Also from the website http://www.bristol.ac.uk/primaryhealthcare/researchthemes/reprovide/about/: a training and support intervention for general practice to improve the response to children exposed to domestic violence and abuse (DVA) and men experiencing or perpetrating DVA, enlarging the IRIS model beyond women survivors of DVA (emphases mine)
/r/MensRights28/06/17 11:04 PM
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Is there a better source? 'cos I'm googling this and I can't find a damn thing that looks anything like this story.
/r/MensRights28/06/17 06:46 PM
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My child will remain whole ... and well-fed, apparently.
/r/MensRights27/06/17 04:08 PM
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they look pregnant too, but normal Hate to be that guy, but males don't NORMALLY get pregnant. :D
/r/MensRights26/06/17 09:35 PM
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In the UK, ALL men over 21 and ALL women over 30 got the vote in 1919. In 1929 ALL women over 21 got the vote. Why the inequality? So many men had died in WW1 the govt wanted to balance the demographics. OTOH, men didn't get the RIGHT to vote the way women did. Men got the OPPORTUNITY to vote, concomitant with being subject to military drafts. That's an imbalance that still exists. Certainly in the US with selective service. Avoiding registration is a felony and (while no states officially do so…
/r/MensRights26/06/17 01:20 PM
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Nothing says "Constitution loving" like wanting to shoot people for differing political views. PLUS "putting people up against the wall" is a 'joke' about totalitarian governments (like, y'know, communists or actual Nazis) and how THEY behave. Again, not very pro-Bill of Rights.
/r/MensRights26/06/17 12:50 AM
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“These are the same kids who cry about their grades because they didn’t think they’d really have to read and study the material to get a good grade,” Surely that'd be the SJWs, like the ones at Evergreen, disrupting classes then demanding an extension on their course work because "muh oppreshunz" or some such. [edit to add] Apparently she's been fired: http://udreview.com/anthropology-professor-under-scrutiny-for-saying-otto-warmbier-got-what-he-deserved/
/r/MensRights26/06/17 12:32 AM
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It's a Poe site. IIRC, KiA found it's owned by the same person who owns AgeOfShitlords
/r/MensRights25/06/17 10:43 PM
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Otto Warmbier got detained because he tried to steal a propaganda poster as a souvenir is a white man. Oh yes, that definitely counts as rape. FTFY /s
/r/MensRights25/06/17 10:40 PM
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You're conflating seeing a baby crying with seeing a baby in pain. They aren't exactly the same, and babies often cry while not in pain. That's not the "I'm hungry" cry, it's not the "I'm alone and want lovin's" cry. The only time I hear babies cry the way that little fella was is when they are hurt.
/r/MensRights25/06/17 01:36 PM
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"Anger is a tool", according to Feministing, and it can be used to burn the gunk and impurities out of one's brain, Unfortunately, the one thing 'anger' burns out of one's brain is reason.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 11:25 PM
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On the other side of the Atlantic Ocean, science journalist Angela Saini read their research and was filled with a pure and clarifying rage. Love the language. Her anger was pure and clarifying, not at all irrational, it was positive and transformative... totally unlike, I presume, mens' anger. It's good to hear that a science journalist can see the glaring error in modern science, an error that has somehow escaped the notice of EVERY scientist (male and female) for the last few centuries.
/r/MensRights22/06/17 05:56 PM
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This isn't the first time feminists have faked doxxing and so on lied in order to get sympathy from their peers whatever they want. FIFY
/r/MensRights20/06/17 05:36 PM
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The '-warrior' thing has been around for years. There was an 'eco-warrior' character in the Fast Show from the mid 90s.
/r/MensRights20/06/17 11:45 AM
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regressive left Firstly, I'd be wary of using buzz-words and slogans; 'regressive left', 'cultural marxist' etc. It's too easy to fall into a rhetorical trap as you are defining the opposition in easily refutable sound bites. That said, if you are debating male suicide statistics and THEY start bringing up the mythical wage gap, I'd suggest ignoring their points and bringing the conversation back to the point. Yes, they are trying to derail the conversation. Deliberately and dishonestly. By forc…
/r/MensRights17/06/17 04:38 PM
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42nd Corinthians chapter 12, verse 16 There are only two book called Corinthians in the Bible.
/r/MensRights16/06/17 02:32 PM
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Oh yes. Compare the two. Man rapes woman: Actively discouraged by society. Horrible consequences when caught (heck, horrible consequences even if the accusation is false). Woman falsely accuses a man of rape: Is allowed to harass him by reasserting the accusation in public for years after, allowed to make her malicious accusation the basis for her degree, gets an award from the largest feminist organisation in the US for 'bravery'. FTFY
/r/MensRights15/06/17 02:40 PM
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We first have to agree, in my opinion, that this subreddit needs to take a cue or two from 2XC, and cut down on reposts, 'whiney' titles, and take a less pointed stance toward feminism. No. No we don't NEED to do that. That shitty re-post? For some people, that's the first time they've heard that story. 'Whiney titles' are the way some people express themselves. One (as a man) can't complain without being insulted or belittled. This is a 'safe space' to raise serious issues you can't raise anywh…
/r/MensRights15/06/17 02:37 PM
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Your implication was that /r/MensRights is a "male only space". So I'll ask again, how did you reach that conclusion? Because this: Male-only spaces have been outlawed. Women-only spaces are allowed, but it is against the law for men to have the same. The only thing asinine is your ignorance. doesn't have anything to do with anything.
/r/MensRights12/06/17 01:11 PM
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male-only spaces Where the hell did you get that asinine idea from?
/r/MensRights12/06/17 11:32 AM
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To be fair, this actually was appropriate back in the day. No it wasn't. Pankhurst was part of the great campaign to shame men into enlisting in WW1; basically a rich woman deciding it was "right and proper" to send young men to their deaths in the trenches. If women had been subject to the draft she might have had a point.
/r/MensRights11/06/17 07:06 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_feather#World_War_I "Wealthy men and women created a moral code and they expect poorer men to accept it. They have decided that is entirely right and proper to shame young men into dying by the thousand to enrich arms manufacturers." FTFY
/r/MensRights11/06/17 07:00 PM
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Except for the "queue up for 8 hours to buy a loaf of bread" part and the "if you complain about it you go straight to the gulag" part. More like "if the local party is behind on its arrest quota you go straight to the gulag".
/r/MensRights11/06/17 10:43 AM
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Because it's a simple descriptor of one of two types of 'feminist man', who attempt to impress the sisterhood by how they perform masculinity. The White Knight acts uber masculine, swooping in to rescue the feminist damsel from 'Teh Eebil Menz' when they have the temerity to refuse to drink the Kool Aid. 'Manginas' are the type who suppress their masculinity, who act overly feminine, in an attempt to demonstrate that THEY are a safe male. They're both pathetic tactics, attempting to 'pussy beg' …
/r/MensRights11/06/17 10:35 AM
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The old, "we imagine men have done (insert horrible thing here) for centuries, so the men of today who had nothing to do with that must be punished for it, or at least silenced". FTFY
/r/MensRights10/06/17 10:03 PM
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What's the problem? Obviously Ok but can we just murder philip davies is satire. Kinda like when Julie Bindell said all men are rapists and should be shot. It's not REAL violence like, frex, that whole freeze peach thing, or debunking the 'wage gap', or trying to ban MGM, or raising awareness of male victims of DV etc etc ad nauseam... /s
/r/MensRights09/06/17 09:53 PM
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I used to respect Zinnia Jones, lost it somewhat when she drank the 'Kool Aid', but I totally have no respect for her now. This "let's break up Laci!" bullshit is ridiculous. Of course, this is typical for the SJW 'fair game' policy. The crazy thing is Laci's a big-ish name. Others will listen. If anything's going to totally Red Pill her, and her followers, it'll be this sort of bull shit... to the point, I suspect, that it'll stick even after she and Chris break up (assuming the SJW "she's doin…
/r/MensRights08/06/17 07:30 PM
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From the article: "I think it's probably the case that women who've been abused have ended up with a disturbed view of sex," he told me. "People who've suffered former psychological trauma or abuse are often in abusive relationships – they repeat the cycle. We don't know whether the people doing those searches are in an abusive relationship, and are doing the searches because they are being coerced into doing so. Dafuq? There's no evidence to suggest that women who search for 'rape porn' aren't …
/r/MensRights08/06/17 11:58 AM
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Yeah, but if I'd offered "penis for updoots" I'd have had to watch the Sexual Harassment video AGAIN...
/r/MensRights08/06/17 11:54 AM
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updoot for 'penis'
/r/MensRights08/06/17 11:36 AM
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Kinda is because she's playing the 'oppressed woman' card for being called out on badgering a witness and not allowing them to answer, when it's a valid criticism of anyone whether male, female, or transflake. It's basically, "how dare you speak when I'm interrupting," with a side order of "but it's OK, I'm a womonz".
/r/MensRights08/06/17 09:26 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/RadicalFeminism/comments/6fysfn/so_what_you_will_about_the_chinese_mosuo_society/ I think KettleLogic is a pretty cool guy. eh trolls everyone and doesn't afraid of anything. /s
/r/MensRights08/06/17 09:14 AM
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While I can feel some sympathy, he was boinking a married woman and now he's surprised that she's not acting in HIS best interests... the kid will have a 'dad' (at least, until Miss Itchy-pants has a 'wandering-eye-itis' relapse), so it's not a question of the kid's best interests. In fact, having some other guy making a stink is probably worse for the kid. [edit to add] This is just the flipside of paternity fraud, although the husband knows (or ought to) that the baby isn't biologically HIS. A…
/r/MensRights05/06/17 03:37 PM
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I can agree that /r/incels is bad for young men. It's easy for people to fall into a circlejerk where everything is THEIR fault (in this case women) and ignore that the only common denominator in all your relationships is YOU. OTOH I don't see them looking at themselves and their complaints about "All Men" in that light. That said, THIS "it harms young men" stuff is pure bullshittery. It's just censorship splashed with a lick of "won't someone think of Teh Poor Menz"TM paint... whence the sudden…
/r/MensRights04/06/17 03:11 PM
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Not every topic is up for debate. Of course. EVERYBODY knows: the world is flat and was created 6,000 years ago the state should dictate your religion and burn you if you dissent non-white people are savages who will benefit from being enslaved men can learn positive life lessons from being maliciously accused of rape /s FFS. [edit to add] This places MRAs and feminists on an equal footing, presenting them as opposing but essentially the same. But these are not movements with anything approachin…
/r/MensRights02/06/17 02:36 PM
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Another part of me thinks well if I don't have it done for him won't he feel odd that he doesn't look like his dad or most of the other boys at school? Will girls ridicule him for being uncut? As someone who was really unpopular in school, I don't want him to have to go through what I did. Firstly, kids are going to find some reason to pick on that one kid. You are never going to be able to protect your son from that. What you can do, as a father, is teach them to pick themself up, dust themself…
/r/MensRights31/05/17 11:40 PM
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It's perfectly simple, segregation is OK when WE do it, but the absolute ring-piece of Beelzebub when YOU do it. /s
/r/MensRights31/05/17 05:26 PM
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Nice try, but nah... blacks get longer prison sentences than whites, which proves blacks are oppressed BUT men get longer prison sentences than women, which proves women are oppressed.
/r/MensRights30/05/17 10:23 PM
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Weren't the women willing partners in these romps? Dafuq? Don't you know ALL penis-in-vagina sex is rape? No femxle-bodied-person can consent because Patriarchal power norms brutalise womyn into submission to male sexual dominance... or some such bull shit. /s
/r/MensRights30/05/17 11:28 AM
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Oh jeez, not the 'rule of thumb' thing again. For those who don't know, here's a simple explanation: Place your thumb, pad down, on a table. It's about an inch wide. Put your other thumb next to it. Congratulations, you have measured two inches inches, near enough. That's the rule.
/r/MensRights29/05/17 03:52 PM
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Literaly noone reads it and noone takes it seriously. This guy? https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Noone :) Srsly, though, you're right. Whatever it set out to be, it's a more straight faced uncyclopedia, absent the insight.
/r/MensRights29/05/17 11:01 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representation_of_the_People_Act_1918 There you go.
/r/MensRights28/05/17 09:12 AM
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The suffering of men does not negate any oppression of women. Bullshit. All you are doing is saying that different gender roles are 'oppressive' to one gender because reasons. No, not even that. You're not giving reasons, just declaring by fiat that it is so. 'Breeding females' is oppressive? But apparently 'disposable males' is not. The way you say 'we' implies you are a man, so let me ask you a question: Would you rather be at home watching the kids or slogging through the mud and machine gun …
/r/MensRights27/05/17 04:27 PM
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There are, I believe, some good arguments for 'left wing' economic policies (but let's leave the validity to another day)1, but we never seem to hear them. Apparently the best way to reach "guy with confederate flag in his pickup" is to berate him for being privileged; a racist, sexist, gay-bashing transphobe. Let's just ignore the fact that free clinics that used to operate in 3rd world countries now work in the US. Never mind that men's jobs have been trashed thanks to the 2008 recession (and …
/r/MensRights27/05/17 01:04 PM
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So let me get this right... When urban dictionary described MRAs as "a bunch of whiny pedantic morons", presumably written by teh feministas, that was OK. OTOH, "An organization of men and their women allies who draw attention to the ways in which misandry (anti-male attitudes and actions) and gynocentrism (women-privileging) harm men" is somehow an example of my soggy knees? OTGH Buy my t-shirts, 'cos I'm a sensitive nu(tered)-male, and I'm a fitness trainer so totally ripped and I'll never bot…
/r/MensRights27/05/17 11:36 AM
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a recording device is your best friend. Unfortunately true.
/r/MensRights27/05/17 11:10 AM
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Climaxed there I knew you liked calling out trolls, but not THAT much. ;)
/r/MensRights27/05/17 10:56 AM
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you can never say that oppression doesn't exist Uh... yes I can. EVRY society worldwide and throughout history has thrived by protecting and providing for 'breeding females' through the labour and sacrifice of 'disposable males'. Remember when the suffragettes were campaiging for the right to vote? Men, by the thousands, were being blown up in the trenches in WW1. Men were (and still are) expected to work to provide for a family. Men are 95% of workplace deaths, they do the toughest most dangero…
/r/MensRights27/05/17 10:37 AM
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Going by that logic I'd assume that feminists would see a "gendered" award like this as sexist. You must be new here. :)
/r/MensRights26/05/17 04:07 PM
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Um... Nope. In the last year OP has made no posts or submissions to any anti-SJW sub. So I'm gonna give : 6/10 for style. The shrill, angry tone is quite entertaining. 2/10 for technical merit. OP has put no effort into creating a believable persona Not even a good troll.
/r/AntiFeminists23/05/17 12:27 AM
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How many times are we going to have this shitpost repeated? Netflix aren't acting to have the film banned, they aren't blocking DVD sales, they aren't pressuring YouTube, Amazon, Hulu or any other streaming service to stop carrying the movie. They simply have not, as yet, bought the film. That's it. That's the limit of their actions. Tracey Watson is talking out her arse, here, using sloppy writing and 'guilt by association' to create a panic over nothing.
/r/MensRights22/05/17 06:17 PM
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There was a short documentary, The Fog of Sex, that interviews 6 women sex-working their way through college. At the end there's a little blurb that it's 50-50 the number of UK students using sex work to fund their studies... but of course, no men interviewed.
/r/MensRights21/05/17 10:54 PM
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One criticism: I object to labeling feminists as "WRA's." Yes. Feminists aren't defined by 'Women's Rights'. There are a whole slew of philosophical, critical and political theories founded on feminist thought. It's not just a rights movement.
/r/MensRights21/05/17 10:38 PM
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Could you please stop spamming this 'question begging' everywhere? Is stealthing even a 'thing'? Not really, just another attempt to create a moral panic. It used to be a problem in the gay community when HIV+ people would stealth healthy partners to deliberately infect them. Today, the problem is mostly heterosexual women poking holes in condoms to get pregnant. [edit] spelling
/r/MensRights21/05/17 02:48 PM
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All in all, it didn't really sell its central premise—that men are oppressed just as much, if not more, than women. AFAIK the MRM position is NOT that men are oppressed, we reject that whole oppressed/oppressor view of society that Critical Theorists love to push. So no, the Red Pill probably doesn't sell that idea very well, the same way that Farenheit 911 doesn't sell the argument against Brexit very well.
/r/MensRights21/05/17 10:40 AM
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We discuss such issues as: rape hysteria and malicious rape accusations and how this is leading to kangaroo courts in US universities and the erosion of the presumption of innocence in RL courts the dismissal of male rape victims, particularly young boys male suicide (80% of suicides are men, it is the leading cause for men 20-60) male homelessness (75% of the homeless are men) the dismissal of men's problems (#MaleTears #MasculinitySoFragile) men falling behind in education. Educationally, the …
/r/MensRights19/05/17 07:57 PM
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In response to your edit: Edit 2: Some good statements "Be the change you want to see in this world." Some bad statements "Youre a house n****." Overall i hope this post draws out a healthy view of this sub and i ask to look at your comments and think; how does this help promote a healthy cause or is this just cheap internet trash talk? The second one. Your post was "just cheap internet trash talk". You criticise someone for saying "Youre a house n****", but the only difference between my post a…
/r/MensRights19/05/17 06:11 PM
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In spite of the movie’s huge commercial success, Netflix has refused to air it. In theaters in Canada, Australia and the U.S., feminists have come out en masse to protest viewings, and independent theaters have been under huge pressure not to show it. Firstly, HAS Netflix definitively, on the record, REFUSED to air the film? There are a lot of films released annually and Netflix can't buy them all, so not buying one film is not evidence of anything. Secondly, the two are not linked. Feminists HA…
/r/MensRights19/05/17 01:20 PM
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and for my next impression... Jesse Owens.
/r/MensRights19/05/17 10:50 AM
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Oh, no offense taken. It's been DAYS since we had someone swan in and tell us how we are "doing it wrong". Checking your profile I don't see any comments or submissions to this subReddit. You have, as you say, been lurking. How about, if you think this sub could be better, you be the change you want to see and contribute something of worth? Then again, I think discussing a woman potentially getting away with attempted murder because she is apparently 'exceptional', Male genital mutilation, or th…
/r/MensRights18/05/17 09:05 PM
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Michelle Martens (mom) Fabian Gonzales (male) Jessica Kelley (female) Pop quiz: Guess which one is going to get life in prison (or death if NM has the death penalty), and which ones will get probation because 'influenced by teh eebil manz'.
/r/MensRights18/05/17 06:00 PM
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The simple answer is ALL OF THEM. Why? Because 'Patriarchy' as in the feminist notion that society is arranged in a way that benefits all men at the expense of all women is nonsensical. While the majority of the people at 'the top' (presidents, CEOs etc) may be male, it is also true that the majority at 'the bottom' are also male. There is a simpler way to explain this, pre-technological societies that enforce strict gender roles will out-breed and out-compete societies that are more egalitarian…
/r/MensRights18/05/17 10:27 AM
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The tl;dr answer is simple: Stop being a feminist The longer version of that? A fundamental problem with feminism is the way it views society, specifically the Critical Theory view of society as an oppressor/oppressed dichotomy, split along gender lines; the so-called Patriarchy Theory. In this view ALL women are oppressed by ALL men. It's nonsensical. It completely misses the ways that societies (yes ALL societies, another issue is the myopic western-centric view of gender relations across cult…
/r/MensRights14/05/17 01:54 PM
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While the vast majority of men will never commit sexual violence, studies show that those who do commit sexual violence strongly believe in these attitudes. And... ? I'm sure that men who rape share other common factors as well... like breathing, frex. OTOH what about women who rape?
/r/MensRights14/05/17 09:50 AM
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I think there's two ways this could go: Men don't learn how to be 'gentlemen'. Everything manly is doubleplusungood according to Teh Sisterhood (ironic that the worst aspects of 'Toxic Masculinity'TM are abetted by feminists). So for young men learning how to make their way in the world, a set up like this COULD be helpful unless... 'Toxic Masculinity'TM is ALL masculinity and to learn to be 'good people' these guys will have to learn to be subservient lapdogs. Ie it'll be swilling with feminist…
/r/MensRights13/05/17 10:16 PM
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But were the tensions on display really just about one film or are they part of a broader cultural battle playing out between progressives and the far-right? Dafuq? It's not moderate lefties vs right wing nut bags. It's moderates (left and right leaning) vs extremist left wing identity politics. The far right is a marginal mish-mash. Ironically, it's this 'left pole' thinking that's driving moderates into their arms.
/r/MensRights12/05/17 04:29 PM
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Hey, White People: Michael Douglas Is the Villain, Not the Victim, in Falling Down In other news, your dog wants steak.
/r/MensRights10/05/17 09:47 PM
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Is it? I spaced out after point 12.
/r/MensRights08/05/17 11:20 PM
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She's 38. Married, has kids of her own. Ie she has real world, adult things to deal with. The kid doesn't. Now I may be wrong, but I get the feeling that she just wanted some 'young dick' that wouldn't pressure her by having emotional needs of his own, or boundaries that she couldn't just bluff, cajole or just brazenly barge through. My point about this woman, and the 30yr old guy in my first comment, is that I doubt they are at all interested in the kid's best interests, just looking for someon…
/r/MensRights08/05/17 06:07 PM
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it does accidentally push an anti women message to those we don't see post or comment, but just enjoy seeing women being hate on. Firstly, thank you for saying I'm being a nice person, although I'm just trying to be honest. However, this sub is not, will not, can not be responsible for the thoughts and actions of idiots. If people enjoy seeing women being metaphorically shat on, that's not our problem. Our problem is the way people (particularly the media) deliberately twist our words to appear …
/r/MensRights07/05/17 09:50 PM
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how men are treated worse in common day society, which in itself is a huge ass lie O RLY? Which gender makes up: 80% of suicides? 95% of workplace deaths 75% of the homeless 66% victims of violence 50% victims of DV less than 1% funding for DV shelters Did you know that more men are raped in American prisons than women worldwide? Did you know that when Boko Haram kidnapped those girls and the world went apeshit, nobody asked about the boys? ProTip: They were murdered. Did you know that male civi…
/r/MensRights07/05/17 09:15 PM
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That's it? A discussion about yet another boost for women in the workplace? That's your smoking gun? I notice, looking at the New posts right now, that you missed: a discussion about MGM (male genital mutilation, the correct term for medically unnecessary circumcision performed on infant males) two discussions about the reality of 'Rape Culture' and the witch hunt against a man who dared question it discussion of a woman vowing to force her son to conform to feminine standards of behaviour ("tur…
/r/MensRights07/05/17 08:50 PM
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It's a lot more prevalent than you think, just turn off that selective reading for a minute or two. Then it should be a piece of piss for you to post some links.
/r/MensRights07/05/17 08:33 PM
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Standards should be different. Lets face it. If I was a 14 year old boy and nailed her that many times. My life would be complete. She's hot. Is she hot? I don't think a 38 year old woman who'd fuck a 14 year old boy is in any way attractive. [edit to add] Many years ago I knew a woman who'd had a 30 year old boyfriend when she was 13. She was trying to claim it as a 'good thing'; like he was a mentor, a positive role model. I disagreed with her then and still do. My point was (and is) that even…
/r/MensRights07/05/17 07:01 PM
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Monolithic thinking to counter the Monolithic nature for feminism just won't work. I'm gonna second that. While I can see OP's point abut wanting a catchy slogan, a big problem with feminism is the way that "the radical notion that women are human beings" has long passed from being meaningful to empty words on a t-shirt. I think it's a general problem with catchy logos, they go from introducing thought to replacing thought. Our 'Unique Selling Point'TM is that we rely on reason, on facts and evi…
/r/MensRights06/05/17 11:19 PM
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So... you consider yourself a 'moderate' MRA (or reasonable, logical whatever) and in response to a year old brigade of this sub your response is to leave? I would have thought that if you were determined to support the MRM you would rather stick around to counter the brigaders; to actually, y'know, FIGHT BACK.
/r/MensRights06/05/17 12:56 PM
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Two points to consider: /u/dashrandom has been a redditor for 4 years. This post: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9mgox/rmensrights_seems_to_be_less_about_mens_rights/ is from 7 years ago. So when exactly was this sub the site of perfect, reasonable discussion without bashing feminism? OP claims it WAS, about 4 years ago. Hmm... these things don't add up.
/r/MensRights06/05/17 12:09 PM
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I look back through your submission history and, going back two years, you've not submitted ANYTHING to /MensRights apart from this. Be the change you want to see, and all that jazz. Also, looking at the current 'hot' posts we have: Karen Straughan's demolition of the "they're not real feminists" argument Imnotmrabut's posts deconstructing feminist misandry A guy accused of rape for wanting to change his daughter's diaper A discussion about female aggression The Red Pill movie streaming on Hulu …
/r/MensRights06/05/17 10:21 AM
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Isn't Thinx the company where the female CEO got accused of sexual harassment by a female member of staff?
/r/MensRights05/05/17 04:17 PM
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Blade Runner proves Han Solo shouldn't boink androids.
/r/MensRights03/05/17 10:45 PM
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Knock yourself out. :D OTOH https://youtu.be/0zFAvzf0Mv0
/r/MensRights03/05/17 10:24 PM
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Do a lot of MGTOWs have wives (in or out of the kitchen)? Kinda the whole point of my mockery of NEOGaF's mischaracterisation of the MRM.
/r/MensRights03/05/17 10:19 PM
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feminism tackles the problems of men as well by trying to bring down the patriarchy 'Bringing down the Patriarchy' is begging the question and the question is: Is society arranged in such a way that elevates and privileges all men at the expense of all women? They will argue that it can't be ALL men because Patriarchy hurts men too. There are two problems here. The first is that's a classic Motte and Bailey move. The bailey being "for the benefit of all men", the motte being "hurts men too." It'…
/r/MensRights03/05/17 04:52 PM
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tl;dr "I haven't seen the film, but here's EVERYTHING wrong with it and here's how it promotes rape... oh, and MRAs are women hating MGTOW who want their wives back in the kitchen and PUAs who want to derail FGM by banning circumcision (which is OK because reasons) and Paul Elam said a bad word once (or so I've been told) and hurt my fee-fees."
/r/MensRights03/05/17 12:44 PM
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You guys are so out of touch You don't have to post here. If you disagree with this sub so much, if you consider MRAs 'You guys', then don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. I'm not engaging you because I think you're being sexist, or any other '-ist'. I think you're being plain dumb. To be blunt your attitude is, strategically, piss-poor. On a thread criticising feminists "alienating allies" the irony of attacking commenters, and MRAs as a whole, is so thick you could armour a ba…
/r/MensRights02/05/17 08:09 PM
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But "protecting children from their mothers" is a antithetical heretical concept in the West. Usually I do these little FIFY gags as a sarcastic barb. This time I'm gonna honestly suggest the correction.
/r/MensRights02/05/17 07:43 PM
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This writer writes as though it is a crime for men to take control of their own sex life. FIFY /s
/r/MensRights02/05/17 04:42 PM
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It was a tuesday, wasn't it?
/r/MensRights02/05/17 08:45 AM
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There you go again with a totally different situation. Seriously, what point are you trying to make? That today's little gangs of idiot an-coms (I know, it's tautology) are comparable to the armed might of the British Empire? It seems you're actually arguing that antifa are WORSE. I don't think it's unreasnable to think that thousands of soldiers armed with Lee Enfield rifles, machine guns, tanks are more of a threat than a bunch of idiots throwing M80s. But you're still ignoring my point about …
/r/MensRights01/05/17 02:02 PM
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Are you a male? Good, we got you covered on the male front, no further questions asked. Also: Are you a man? Good, we've got you covered on the man front. If you want black or trans representation go to the black or trans movements for it. Sounds kinda harsh at first, but yes. An issue that affects a trans person because they are a man (cis or trans) is a problem we'll address. There are groups fighting for trans rights and we aren't against them.
/r/MensRights01/05/17 01:40 PM
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[Valenti]will blame [men]for breathing and when they stop breathing, she will blame their corpses for stinking. There's nothing to add to this.
/r/MensRights01/05/17 11:30 AM
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If you find it again, can you post the link? It sounds interesting.
/r/MensRights01/05/17 10:57 AM
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In the UK you can legally change your birth certificate. Legally speaking that means you ARE the new gender. That change includes your passport. I can support that, it's a reasonable accommodation to a person with a specific condition. The same way I don't mind wheelchair ramps. However that law already exists. That's my answer to why trans people need different rights, and it's very specific (and you have to jump through a load of hoops to exercise that right). Do trans people need special prot…
/r/MensRights01/05/17 10:56 AM
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Hate to break this to you, but this sub is based around MEN'S RIGHTS. Not ideologically pure men's rights, not politically acceptable men's rights. Not straight men, or white men, or cis men, or educated men, or working class men. Just MEN. If you want to parse which people get to speak because how well they fit YOUR political ideals then I would respectfully suggest you go sub to /r/Feminism.
/r/MensRights01/05/17 10:36 AM
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Ever heard of Hitchen's razor? That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Is this an argument ad Google? Where you'll hide behind the dodge "that's not the source I meant" when I suggest a source and debunk it, implying the information is 'somewhere else'. Or is the old feminist dodge, "It's not my job to educate you"? tl;dr Facts or GTFO
/r/MensRights30/04/17 04:40 PM
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Got sauce?
/r/MensRights30/04/17 03:31 PM
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Seriously? Yes I know it sounds like I'm promoting violence against conservatives, but that's not my point. Let the internet fill up with videos of peaceful people being beaten up by antifa and public opinion WILL turn. The MSM can only lie for so long until it becomes clear that the violence is coming purely from the 'left'. Bear in mind, Gandhi took on the might of the British empire and WON. Fighting back against antifa only benefits the progression of political violence. I'm a 'lefty', for p…
/r/MensRights30/04/17 02:39 PM
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Antifa punches Trump supporters because "words are violence", but those Trump supporters aren't Nazis. They're ordinary people who support their president. Brilliant! NOW the extreme right shows up to bust antifa heads, all in "self defense" of course. So antifa start throwing bombs. OK, just fireworks ATM, thankfully. How long until some radical antifa starts lobbing pipe bombs? How long until the right start bringing their guns? How long until both sides are implementing "selective annihilatio…
/r/MensRights30/04/17 11:16 AM
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One down and we haven't even had any concerned feminists 'just trying to open a discussion' yet. That's dedication to the cause.
/r/MensRights29/04/17 10:28 PM
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Welcome to the MGM drinking game! Sit back with a nice scotch1 and take a sip every time you see one of these: "Female Genital Mutilation is much worse." Take another if they mention clitorectomy. Follow the thread and take a drink every time their description of FGM gets worse. "FGM is done in unsanitary conditions" Not the same as point 1, this is comparing the circumstances rather than the practice itself. "It reduces HIV/STDs" Take an extra drink if they provide links. "It's done to control …
/r/MensRights29/04/17 10:00 PM
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From http://voxday.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/what-alt-right-is.html: 7.The Alt Right is anti-equalitarian. It rejects the idea of equality for the same reason it rejects the ideas of unicorns and leprechauns, noting that human equality does not exist in any observable scientific, legal, material, intellectual, sexual, or spiritual form. In terms of absolute equality, OK I can understand the point. Trouble is, once you start down the path of 'inequality is OK' you quickly step into the quagmire of d…
/r/MensRights29/04/17 09:39 PM
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And, like the FeMRAs, she is not concerned beyond herself. How many men are only here after THEY got screwed by the system? How many were kinda happy with things until they realised how the inequities affected THEM personally?
/r/MensRights29/04/17 09:21 PM
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lena dunham is one woman with severe mental issues A PEDOPHILE, she's had sex with SEXUALLY ABUSED her LITTLE sister . FIFY
/r/MensRights29/04/17 05:20 PM
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To be fair, if I've had a curry that men's room IS gonna be kinda toxic.
/r/MensRights29/04/17 07:14 AM
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You might want to consider the way she compares feminism to an abusive partner. Because feminism is doing the same shit abusive men do: Gaslighting. They're saying "Heyyyy, baby...I care about your rights and feelings too, and I'm going to address those but you need to listen to me first." And then feminism says "You're crazy. I already addressed your concerns three days ago, don't you remember? Or are you too stupid to remember what happened 72 hours ago? This is just like you. Also, I never pr…
/r/MensRights28/04/17 11:16 PM
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Don't forget, 25% of the homeless are FEMALE!
/r/MensRights28/04/17 10:49 PM
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A coupla years back there was a huge fuss because death rates for women had doubled in, IIRC, Canada. Guess what, it was due to the recession. So many men had lost their jobs they were dying in fewer absolute numbers, so the %age of female deaths appeared to spike.
/r/MensRights28/04/17 10:48 PM
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There's a lot of stuff on the internet about how to get over your ex—95 percent of it is patronizing bullshit, and the other 5 percent seems to be covert porn advertising. Bullhockey. I've looked at advice on how to get over your ex. 100% is overt porn. At least according to the search terms I was using...
/r/MensRights28/04/17 06:09 PM
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Oh dear, I kinda liked TYT when I first watched them, about 5 years ago. They were young and energetic. I liked the 'youth' point of view they had on things, although very naive. Watching this, though, it's like they haven't grown up. They're talking like teenagers, and they are blatantly not. It's really cringey.
/r/MensRights28/04/17 10:18 AM
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see how me clearly stating "I am not happy to hurt children" (third time now) Compared to how many times you have tried to minimise the effects of MGM? To pass it off as benign? To pretend that boys don't get complications? What about the ways you have ignored the point that boys in third world countries are cut in the same unsanitary conditions that girls are? What about the ways you have ignored the point that nobody is arguing against the ban on FGM? This is the last fucking time I explain so…
/r/MensRights28/04/17 09:34 AM
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Because on the traditional way, I suggest you all take a deep breath and a minute of silence and think if circumcision to a baby is as brutal, risky, and traumatizing as clitorial ablation to a little girl is. Fuck off. NOBODY was minimising the horrors of FGM. "deep breath and a minute of silence"? Why the fuck should we? How about we do some research instead? Again, nobody is arguing that MGM is worse. You are the only person in this thread comparing practices and arguing one is worse than the…
/r/MensRights28/04/17 08:25 AM
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I didn't introduce the comparison. You did, and your side in this argument has - again and again. Uh no. Re-read this particular thread. Nemodin introduced the comparison. You deliberately compared male circumcision to the only form of FGM that is undefined enough (pricking) to seem on a par with male circumcision. In response to Nemodin's deliberate comparison between the worst example of FGM and MGM as a way to minimise MGM, to make it appear almost benign. Heck, it's performed in sterile cond…
/r/MensRights27/04/17 05:42 PM
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I am personally opposed to circumcision and believe that it should be illegal to perform such unnecessary surgery on an infant. Good. I am also not completely fucking insane, so I acknowledge that clitoridectomy is a much more dangerous and damaging procedure, all but eliminating sexual pleasure in its victims. So what? Nobody is going to disagree that clitorectomy is a horrible, disgusting thing to do. My original point to /u/Nemodin is that the practice has already been banned, it's a moot poi…
/r/MensRights27/04/17 05:16 PM
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he seems crazy to make a point and makes some arguments twisting some of my words. Then please enlighten me where I have twisted your words. I am trying to make a point, yes. The point is simply this: Laws banning FGM already exist, the practice is barbaric and nobody is going to argue otherwise. Arguing against banning MGM is supporting that, also barbaric, practice. You are arguing against banning MGM, by bringing up a (faulty) comparison to an already prohibited act, and minimising the effect…
/r/MensRights27/04/17 05:05 PM
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Oh boy, you have no idea what you're talking about. The practices outlawed as FGM include: Type IV The WHO defines Type IV as "[a]ll other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes", including pricking(emphasis mine), piercing, incising, scraping and cauterization. Circumcision on males ALWAYS involves removal of the foreskin. In girls it can involve a pinprick. That pinprick is banned. An adult woman cannot legally get it done, even when there is consent. It is illegal…
/r/MensRights27/04/17 08:42 AM
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It's on the UK site.
/r/MensRights26/04/17 08:53 PM
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PEOPLE'S FRONT!
/r/MensRights26/04/17 08:18 PM
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That's a VERY different subreddit.
/r/MensRights26/04/17 07:09 PM
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No. Of course not. Next silly question. /s
/r/MensRights26/04/17 06:49 PM
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Fuck, you trying to kill us with alcohol poisoning?
/r/MensRights25/04/17 11:27 PM
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Coherent? FFS don't tell anyone. You'll ruin the anti-MRA narrative. /s
/r/MensRights25/04/17 11:24 PM
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Which leaves my last question unanswered, viz why reinstate the thread and then come here to claim it had "not been deleted", rather than explaining it was under moderation?
/r/MensRights25/04/17 09:04 PM
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It was when I posted that comment. [edit to add] Why was that, exactly? It's a sub that ostensibly supports men, yes? Why would you delete a thread from a man looking for support? Which then raises the question, why would you reinstate it? Or rather, why reinstate it and then come here to claim it had never been deleted?
/r/MensRights25/04/17 08:31 PM
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http://archive.is/jEYPD Looks like they're just traditionalists. Sorry notacrackheadofficer.
/r/MensRights25/04/17 06:55 PM
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"circumcision is not GM because FGM is worse" Even a purely symbolic pin prick is outlawed as FGM: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/05/20/ayaan-hirsi-ali-on-injustice-of-female-genital-mutilation.html I'd like an explanation of how a pin prick is WORSE than cutting off a foreskin. The sickening thing is, if you posted that story on MensRights, while there would be a lot of us (me included) asking 'what about teh menz'1, we would still generally be supportive of reducing genital mutilat…
/r/MensRights25/04/17 06:24 PM
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'Cis' is a prefix, like 'trans'. Cis means 'this side of', trans means 'the other side'. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cis- Frex, during the Roman empire there were two provinces called Gaul, Cisalpine Gaul in the south (THIS side of the Alps) and Transalpine Gaul (THAT side of the Alps). People whose biological sex didn't match their psychological gender were termed 'Transgender', ie they were going to 'the other side', so to speak. Since 'trans' and 'cis' are opposite terms, it makes sense to…
/r/AntiFeminists25/04/17 04:42 PM
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traditional gender roles didn't result in harmony or prosperity No they didn't. Strict gender roles operate for the benefit of the SOCIETY, not individual members whichever sex/gender they are, through the use of disposable males to protect, and provide for, 'breeding' females (excuse the phrase).
/r/MensRights25/04/17 04:01 PM
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You've posted in MensRights. That, right off the bat, makes you guilty of doubleplusungood wrongthink. Plus, any story of female perpetration threatens the 'narrative'. That, of course, is assuming you haven't already been banned. Some subs will ban people for posting in the 'wrong' subs.
/r/MensRights25/04/17 01:45 PM
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MensLib, a feminist sub, already deleted a thread OP started there on this topic. Checking OP's post history, he has mentioned this before in other subs, so I'm inclined to take him at face value.
/r/MensRights25/04/17 01:26 PM
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I would suggest not. It won't end well. As others have said, expect lots of "lol male tears" and similar shaming language. Then you can expect to be banned. I see you posted on MensLib. That's a feminist sub too. Just out of interest, did YOU delete that MensLib thread?
/r/MensRights25/04/17 12:53 PM
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Please excuse me, but RANT powers activate! There are approx 0.3% of people whose biological sex doesn't match their social gender, aka transsexual/gender. Males who feel like women and females who feel like men. There's support, diagnostic criteria and treatments. In the UK, at least, a trans person can get their BIRTH CERTIFICATE changed. They can go into the opposite sex public toilets, they get to live as the opposite gender, their passports and driving licenses match their new gender. Given…
/r/MensRights25/04/17 10:46 AM
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I looked at that link. It's a video by Riley Dennis, apparently a: gender non-binary trans woman How can you be non-binary AND trans? FFS, they just make any old shit up.
/r/MensRights25/04/17 10:18 AM
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[MRAs] tend to cite an imagined history where incredibly traditional gender roles resulted in harmony and prosperity, if not for all, at least for the white men many of these fellas claim to represent. Yeah right, because feminists NEVER cite imagined history. They never refer to some mythical matriarchal society.
/r/MensRights25/04/17 08:18 AM
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It's a trend, but mostly it's women poking holes in condoms or HIV+ men deliberately infecting others.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 07:26 PM
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It's /r/justneckbeardthings, calling it 'low intelligence trolling' is tautology.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 07:17 PM
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I usually leave that until the second date.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 06:53 PM
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In terms of consent, she's consented to sex WITH condom. So, technically, yes. OTOH If this 'stealthing' thing is for real, the problem is not to teach young men about consent. Teach them about STDs. If I've just picked up a girl in a club and she's OK to go bareback, the absolute LAST thing I am going to do with her is go bareback. It's the old joke that if you fuck a girl bareback, you're fucking everybody else she's fucked. OTGH Teach young men about fucking child support! To be honest I seri…
/r/MensRights24/04/17 06:39 PM
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You mean this thread? Where you twisted someone's words into an anti-suffrage statement?
/r/MensRights24/04/17 06:25 PM
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I'll try: No Fuck no A brand new car
/r/MensRights24/04/17 02:50 PM
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You're posting on a public forum and what you say makes a difference on if this movement will be successful or not. The media will mis-represent the MRM regardless. The MRM has nothing, abso-fucking-lutely ZERO, to do with The_Donald, the alt right, white supremacy, the Red Pill subreddit, PUAs. That doesn't stop them from making those connections. Our tone, good or bad, won't affect it. If we use 'indoor' voice, they'll just ignore us as happened for decades.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 02:15 PM
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I am saying that you're a misogynist asshole apologetic. I think you mean 'apologist'. Funny, the only group I see using 'apologist' as an insult with any regularity is... wait for it... feminists. This sub is quite happy to downvote hateful nonsense. Except when that 'nonsense' is only 'misogynistic' because it discusses problems men face. So MRM does require an invitation then. There's a world of difference between requiring an invitation and calling out trolls.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 01:45 PM
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I'm saying that I'm an MRA and, at the same time, not a misogynist asshole. So, what? I'm a 'misogynist asshole'? You're the ONLY reasonable MRA? First you said that using we is unacceptable, next you're saying that even feminists are welcome in the movement. Choose one, they're mutually exclusive Really? FYI this sub is NOT the MRM. Everyone is welcome to participate. It's just that trolls are likely to get called on it, whereas genuine conversation is going to be responded to fairly.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 01:23 PM
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So you're saying either I turn into a mysoganist asshole, or I'm just an internet troll. That's a logical fallacy if I've ever seen one. You're accusing MRAs of being 'misogynist assholes.' Do you really think that makes you look good? Are you an MRA? If you are, and you think that entails being a 'misogynist asshole', then you should take a good hard look at yourself and your attitudes. If you're not, then what exactly are you trying to prove? Also, I didn't realize that Men's Rights was a frat…
/r/MensRights24/04/17 12:39 PM
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You crazy MRAs and your reliance on, like, facts and shit. /s
/r/MensRights24/04/17 12:31 PM
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You do realise that if (when) she loses it'll just be trumpeted around as proof of misogyny.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 12:29 PM
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In the last two weeks we have had two threads started by self-identified feminists along the lines of, "I'm a feminist, what the fuck is up with you guys?" https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/66ybu1/um_so_i_have_some_questions_for_you_guys/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/65jvog/question_for_users_of_this_sub/ In both those cases the OP actually listened to the arguments, and got 'red pilled'. So your contention that our tone "hurts our movement" is bullshit. And then there…
/r/MensRights24/04/17 12:21 PM
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Thank you. AvfM's link is broken unfortunately, but /u/deathdragon5858 found a good link.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 10:00 PM
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I think it's really unfair comparing the WEP to the Monster Raving Loony Party. They're totally different. One is a group of crazies representing a joke political platform based on absolute nonsense. The other was led by Lord Sutch.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 09:45 PM
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no empathy from them NOW That's worth being upset with them over, but try to understand them. For your sake if nothing else. There's an old quote to the effect that holding onto anger is like drinking poison and hoping for someone else to die.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 08:20 PM
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Thank you. Looking forward to the next feminist "just asking questions" in this sub.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 08:09 PM
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Personally, I'd rather have an Aviation.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 05:59 PM
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Not saying 'facts or GTFO' but do you have sauce?
/r/MensRights23/04/17 05:31 PM
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I'm sensing a pattern...
/r/MensRights23/04/17 05:09 PM
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Why? I really enjoy a nice Cosmpolitan. That balance of sweet and citrus, the tartness of cranberry juice, the kick of the vodka... delicious.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 03:38 PM
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I'm genuinely impressed (and actually surprised) that you returned to that thread. Usually, as I said, the "I'm a feminist that wants a debate" poster really means shitposting once and disappearing.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 03:36 PM
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Unless my google-fu is catastrophically weak, I can't find ANY discussion of (maliciously) false accusations apart from rape. That's not to say they don't happen, but at a very low level, vanishingly small. It seems a fair point to make.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 03:17 PM
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all she does is give both sides a fair hearing it made [feminists] look stupid Kinda obvious that would happen. As you said, the sisterhood is pissed because they only look good in puff pieces.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 03:01 PM
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I'm not saying it's rape but... it's apparently 'adjacent' to rape. OTOH, from http://learn.condomdepot.com/2014/05/13/stealthing/ Stealthing can occur between partners of any sexual preference, but is most commonly associated with women who are trying to become pregnant by poking holes in a condom, as in the banned clothing ad from Disigual last week, or by HIV positive people in the POZ scene who find gratification through the transmission of the virus Wonder if that will be discussed? Nah, wh…
/r/MensRights23/04/17 10:29 AM
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Manosphere? It's a media buzzword that allows the MRM media to lump pickup artists with MRAs, MGTOWs, white supremacists, fascists, nazis, and people who prefer jazz to music. [edit to correct an acronym]
/r/MensRights23/04/17 10:10 AM
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Please don't compare male and female circumcision. Male circumcision has helped reduce HIV Infection among men in Sub-Saharan Africa, Male Circumcision is associated with reduced rates of urinary tract infection and cancer of the penis, and also does not impact sexual function. Why shouldn't I compare them? Even if I concede the reduced STD thing, if a male wants to be circumcised to reduce their risks of catching/transmitting STDs then why should we not wait until they are sexually active? Why …
/r/MensRights23/04/17 09:40 AM
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Like she's going to come back and answer anyway. Just another 'drive-by' feminista thinking she's struck a blow for the sisterhood. I just enjoy clogging their inbox with MRA talking points. Remember: Feminists are stupid. Throw facts at them
/r/MensRights22/04/17 09:59 PM
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So I am actually a feminist, and I am curious as to why you guys go to men's rights advocacy. I am not here for a slur contest or shouting match, but to debate with you guys and show why I feel the way I do. I know this will be down-voted to hell and possibly banned but freedom of speech, right? If you are here for genuine debate, that is you are actually willing to listen and consider points that don't fit your narrative1 you won't be downvoted. In fact, and I'm sure you will find this impossib…
/r/MensRights22/04/17 09:47 PM
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IIRC Annually, more men are raped in US prisons than women in the whole world.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 09:08 PM
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If it's propaganda, it'd be from the Soviets... that said, the eastern front was brutal. Pavlichenko wasn't the only female sniper; frex Ziba Ganiyeva, Tania Chernova, Tanya Baramzina and Nina Lobkovskaya. OTOH Simo Häyhä and Vasily Zaytsev got hundreds of kills, so her count is not impossible.
/r/MensRights20/04/17 09:02 PM
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It's like a regular Shalom, but you serve tea and crumpets. (sorry, channelling KenM there)
/r/MensRights20/04/17 07:58 PM
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I started getting angry tweets complaining about how women ruled the world and men were oppressed. Uh no. Men aren't 'oppressed'. Women aren't oppressed. That whole oppressor/oppressed bullshit is just that; BULL SHIT. Society offers rights and responsibilities and sometimes those aren't distributed equally. Usually they've been equitable, a bit of quid pro quo. Sometimes they're unfair. Sometimes women get the shitty end of the stick, sometimes men. The MRA position, as I understand it, is that…
/r/MensRights20/04/17 07:53 PM
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Taking it seriously for a moment, you can read as lampooning feminists' arguments that we should ban everything 'problematic' and how that could give those things 'cred' with edgy kids. Or... Maybe it's just KenM doing his thing?
/r/MensRights20/04/17 07:35 PM
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Well, in all seriousness, if you have a better example I'll gladly use it.
/r/MensRights20/04/17 06:00 PM
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No, it's about children being pressured to be 'gender non-conforming' when they just happen to not be as 'girly' as the supposedly rigid gender roles demand. Asking about boys is apt, because there exists just as much pressure on 'less manly' boys to identify as trans. But, yes, this piece isn't about boys. It isn't about girls. It's about A singular girl, but it concludes with my original quote. Maybe, if we're going to 'celebrate' girls who "who fall outside the narrow confines of gender roles…
/r/MensRights20/04/17 01:06 PM
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Sauce: http://archive.is/R1anO That's from the Reuters web site, not 'shooped.
/r/MensRights20/04/17 10:55 AM
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While celebrating the diversity of sexual and gender identities, we also need to celebrate tomboys and other girls who fall outside the narrow confines of gender roles. What about boys? Of course this is all about 'teh poor womynz'. OTOH, this isn't the 1950s. Gender roles have loosened a LOT, the 'confines' such as they are aren't that narrow. My big problem with the transflake activists is that by defining more and more 'gender identities' they are forcing people to conform to narrower identit…
/r/MensRights20/04/17 10:46 AM
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Remember David Reimer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer? Botched circumcision (and there's an argument against THAT barbarism if there ever was one) so the doctor advised the parents to raise him as a girl... except he knew he was male. Trying to force children into gender roles they don't identify with is child abuse (and, yes, I would say that includes forcing a trans child, all 0.3% of them, into traditional gender roles).
/r/MensRights20/04/17 10:37 AM
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scientific studies have failed to provide good evidence to support the belief that babies are born with something like a “male brain” or a “female brain” Apart from the studies which have, y'know, proved there are differences. Observable differences can be observed in newborns FFS.
/r/MensRights20/04/17 10:31 AM
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Any place where women PEOPLE gather and discuss political issues will be INEVITABLY BECOME INVADED, SUBVERTED AND EVENTUALLY CONTROLLED by feminists. It's how feminists "do politics". FIFY
/r/MensRights20/04/17 08:32 AM
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I'm not sure what you're arguing and I am honestly assuming good faith on your part and trying to show that good faith myself. The problem is I'm not sure how the nature of statistics is problematic when arguing against anecdote. If some feminist argues, frex, "we need legislation because I get scared," then they are not arguing stats at all, they are dishonestly using emotion to push a legislative agenda. The MRA response is essentially to say, "your anecdotal feelings are insufficient reason f…
/r/MensRights18/04/17 04:20 PM
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If a feminist says "women are more likely to be attacked" and MRAs quickly dismiss that because raw statistics show men are more likely to be victims of violence, is that a fair statistic to use? Yes. You claim X>Y, I present evidence that Y>X. I have disproved your claim. What is the problem? I don't see feminists carefully parsing statistics, and that's probably because statistics do not support their 'narrative.'
/r/MensRights18/04/17 03:00 PM
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That discounting male victims because male perpetrator is 'problematic'. I agree, because THAT is a way for feminists to discount male victims of rape, "those rapes are committed by men, so don't count."
/r/MensRights18/04/17 09:54 AM
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Maybe it's time to reclassify ADHD as Boisterous Overactive Youth Syndrome?
/r/MensRights18/04/17 09:35 AM
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I don't debate you to convince YOU. I debate to convince the listeners. This kinda thing. Bring 'em on. You never know, we might change a mind or two.
/r/MensRights17/04/17 04:53 PM
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One wonders what portion of the article is truth and what portion propaganda: I guess we'll find out the first time they come under fire. That said, I don't see why this is in Mens Rights. Women want to be special forces? Good for them. If they can do the job, I for one am not going to say they shouldn't because vagina. And Norway has gender blind draft as well. That is equality.
/r/MensRights17/04/17 02:53 PM
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assume a lone gunman has to be linked to Men's Rights because penis, I guess.
/r/MensRights17/04/17 01:57 PM
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They don't look like regular MensRights posters, but TBH I can't tell either way.
/r/MensRights17/04/17 01:56 PM
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I noticed the Mens Rights thread I linked has been deleted. If the OP deleted it, then fine. Otherwise, if the mods here deleted it, I'm not sure how I feel about it. Is it censoring? I kinda think that it is worthwhile leaving it up to demonstrate how dishonest feminists are, also to show how we responded. OTGH, I'm not a mod, so I'm not unwilling to defer to their decision.
/r/MensRights17/04/17 12:36 PM
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It was called out on their sub as well for hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights17/04/17 12:31 PM
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What about a sick man who murdered someone for no reason and posted the video to social media? What about a murderer? Arrest him, charge him and lock him up for life. What's your point? This is NOT a Mens Rights issue. And what about MY points? What about things that ARE Men's Rights Issues? What about the 95% of workplace deaths being men? Or is that 'privilege'? What about the sex-selective murders, the gendercide, in Yugoslavia? What about the collective shit-fit the world threw when Boko Har…
/r/MensRights17/04/17 10:58 AM
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Elliot Rogers was a sick man who, FYI, NEVER claimed to be an MRA. Not that that matters, even if he were we would still condemn his actions as we do Anders Bervik's. He killed 4 men and 3 women, hardly a male supremacist, and male supremacy is NOT an MRA position anyway. You want to know what MRA positions are? We reject the feminist Patriarchy theory's description of society as an oppressor/oppressed split along gender lines. Women are not, and have never been, oppressed. Rights and responsibi…
/r/MensRights17/04/17 10:42 AM
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Wow. You think a seriously deranged spree-killer like Elliot Rogers is a saint? /u/nitoko, I'm sorry but you have issues. You'd probably do well with therapy.
/r/MensRights17/04/17 09:08 AM
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You should probably avoid /r/MenKampf.
/r/MensRights16/04/17 12:04 PM
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So... Asian men are white now?
/r/MensRights16/04/17 11:32 AM
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Bullshit. I spent minutes, MINUTES, looking before I got bored.
/r/MensRights16/04/17 09:06 AM
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I don't believe conscription is a privilege I didn't say it was. No, but you did say this: As a man who would say they are a feminist If you're a feminist then you believe in male privilege. Ergo my point remains, how is the draft (and all the other issues I mentioned in my first post you replied to) an example of male privilege? Obviously it is not. So how do you square that circle? I've given you a list of situations where men evidently fare worse than women in society. I'm not arguing that me…
/r/MensRights15/04/17 11:09 PM
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Neither side will be able to do anything to ordinary people if they're too busy internally fighting. Do you pay attention to the news? Having the Tories and Labour (or Republicans and Democrats) tied up in internal squabbles doesn't help when there are fringe groups fighting in the streets. Those groups don't care about party politics. Antifa aren't part of the DNC or the Parliamentary Labour Party. The militias and the EDL aren't concerned with the GOP or the Tories. They KNOW they are in the r…
/r/MensRights15/04/17 10:51 PM
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Whether the Reichstag fire was a true or false flag, my point stands that it allowed Hitler to become Fuhrer. It came in a period when such political violence was believable. For example, in the UK there is the Monster Raving Loony Party. Nobody would believe them guilty of violence without COMPELLING evidence. Antifa or EDL (or any far right group)? You could easily believe any accusations against them.
/r/MensRights15/04/17 10:43 PM
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Just out of curiosity, I checked both your post histories. TBH, as far as I could tell, either you're both genuine or both trolls. Although, apparently, NEITHER of you are MRAs. :)
/r/MensRights15/04/17 10:37 PM
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Then Norway and Sweden are the exceptions. in Switzerland a majority of men voted to keep conscription. And? Men are hard wired to WANT to be protectors and defenders. That doesn't change the fact that (with rare exceptions including, IIRC, Israel and Iran) conscription is always male. So can you tell me, with a straight face, that National Service (in the UK) or Selective Service (in the US) or every other instance of men being drafted into war, frex there were no women serving in Napoleon's ar…
/r/MensRights15/04/17 10:35 PM
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fight amongst themselves but that's for the benefit of everyone Really? Quick history lesson. In Germany, there was political violence between the communists and the nazis. Hitler came to power because he was a 'strong man' who promised law and order. He got ultimate power after a communist burned down the Reichstag. So please tell me, how exactly is getting the left and right to polarise to the point we have actual violence good for anyone except 'big state' authoritarians?
/r/MensRights15/04/17 10:22 PM
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no matter how much we reduce the number of combat deaths it will still affect more men than women. Yes it will. Women are less likely to want to be a grunt (not saying NONE do), and less likely to pass the physical tests (not saying NONE can), so men will probably always be the majority of grunts, therefore deaths. The problem is that we make a deal with our soldiers. Risk your life and we will honour your sacrifices. Claiming that some kid who's lost his limbs (or life) in combat is more privil…
/r/MensRights15/04/17 10:17 PM
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Seriously? Not feminists. There's lots to criticise about feminism. Just be sure to make clear that what you're criticising is feminism's failure to live up to its own supposed agenda; equality. Just be aware you ARE the 'bad guy' because 'guy'. Maybe, just maybe, you'll be able to reach someone and change a mind. I assume you're not trying to convince them to go "back to the kitchen". One other point you may want to remember is that 'we' reject feminism's underlying belief that society is arran…
/r/MensRights15/04/17 10:07 PM
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Why aren't you talking about the Andrea Dworkins and Valerie Solanases? Whay aren't you talking about the 2nd wave feminists who drove Erin Pizzey out of the UK with death threats? What about those 2nd wavers who invaded the gay rights movement? What about the white feather girls shaming men into enlisting in WW1? What about those brave sisters who opposed rights for black people? Feminism has been compromised since day 1. Don't shrink from that.
/r/MensRights15/04/17 09:09 PM
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Fuck me sideways. My apologies, I thought you were the OP. Ah well, I should have known I was being too over-optimistic thinking they'd actually have the courage to return. Anyways, have a look at the facts and just ignore the attack. That was aimed at the White Knight OP and not you.
/r/MensRights15/04/17 06:40 PM
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OK, let's starts simply: 50% of DV victims are male. This IS a MRM problem because 'mainstream' discourse about DV concerns male aggressors and female victims. Male victims are denied resources, there are more shelters for women in a typical British city than in the whole UK. 90% of combat deaths Why are we, as a society, so blasé about sending our boys off to fight? Maybe, just maybe, if we cared a little more we wouldn't be so quick to rush into wars (and that's not just the UK). 80% of suicid…
/r/MensRights15/04/17 06:31 PM
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Especially as OP hasn't even bothered to respond. I think this is very apt: http://imgur.com/gallery/n8umjWj
/r/MensRights15/04/17 05:28 PM
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Check its post history. It obviously thinks it's being insightful. So I have no problem engaging. Remember the old slogan: Feminists are stupid. Throw facts at them.
/r/MensRights15/04/17 04:41 PM
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There are issues that impact women more than men and we, as a society, obsess over them all the time. There are a lot of issues that impact men more than women, but society either ignores them, trivialises them, or turns them into a joke. So no. Now let me ask you a question, or two: Do you believe in Patriarchy theory? The wage gap? Rape culture? Are you concerned that men make up: 99% of combat deaths 95% of workplace deaths 80% of suicides (now the leading cause of death for men aged 40-60) 7…
/r/MensRights15/04/17 04:26 PM
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Oh. My. Fucking. God. The comments... who knew that all we need, as men, is the right spell?
/r/MensRights15/04/17 12:22 PM
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“There’s no big protest going on about [the Trump] administration.” O RLY?
/r/MensRights14/04/17 07:34 PM
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tl;dr Just looking at the US, the left has embraced identity politics and SocJus/Critical Theory/Postmodernist disdain for reason, and started engaging in acts of political violence. Criticising that is NOT a mistake. And here we go In 1996 Alan Sokal submitted a fake article to a Cultural Studies journal to show their willingness to publish 'politically correct' content. In 2003, Howard Dean got in trouble for trying to reach out to "guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks." Basicall…
/r/MensRights14/04/17 06:58 PM
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I can agree, but we could still cut away with the entire anti-left narrative and potential exclusion of certain allies Bullshit. What you are saying is, "if you don't allow me to police your language then I won't support you." It's a statement we've heard many times from 'concerned' feminists offering to 'help' and it won't wash. You're trans. So either you're male (biologically) and now a woman, which means the SocJus left will find a way to suppress you for invading 'female safe' spaces, or yo…
/r/MensRights14/04/17 05:54 PM
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Dismantling the patriarchal systems that have brought us to where we are today, communicating almost instantaneously with all sorts of people all around the world? landing on the moon? a belief in tolerance, diversity and the rights of the individual? banning slavery (at least in the west)? eliminating smallpox, or not having children die of minor infections? But, yeah, life isn't perfect so let's just trash the whole enlightenment.
/r/MensRights14/04/17 05:16 PM
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Feminism used to be pretty cool. Sorry, but no. That's one of the pernicious myths of feminism. The third wave did NOT corrupt the 'purity' of the second wave. The second wave gave us Andrea Dworkin, Valerie Solanas and the SCUM Manifesto, death threats against Erin Pizzey. They infiltrated and subverted Gay Rights in the 70s. As a movement, it's always been misandrist and totalitarian, and let's not forget the White Feather girls.
/r/MensRights13/04/17 11:05 AM
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https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2012/12/the-real-complex-connection-between-single-parent-families-and-crime/265860/ This article links to some studies that do appear to show a correlation between absent fathers and increased criminality. [edit to add this quote] The bottom line is that there is a large body of literature showing that children of single mothers are more likely to commit crimes than children who grow up with their married parents. This is true not just in the United Sta…
/r/MensRights13/04/17 09:06 AM
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SC: When I do a Google image search for anything related to women, why are the results so pornified? Especially considering that Google is taking my search history and interests into account? I never search for porn videos or anything of that nature but when I put the word “woman” into Google image search, the top terms Google suggests I add sound like porn genres. That's really weird. I typed "woman" into google image search and got a whole load of non-sexual/pornographic images. The closest wa…
/r/MensRights12/04/17 04:19 PM
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