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They all sucked for me, my one match was from bumble but she just wanted friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 08:25 PM
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I think 5 is 4-4.5 but 2 is 6.5
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 08:09 PM
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Insane that you think 5 and 2 are lookmatched
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:24 PM
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I would have given the same, I think she might actually be a model
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:24 PM
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Those are good examples, what did you give the black lady?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:11 PM
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Rehab Room spoke of this. His reasoning was that if you are an unattractive male you will be rejected by pretty much every segment of society so it is easy to be radicalized by people online since they can give you the community you crave for irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:01 PM
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Less than 1%
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:55 PM
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You can't necessarily map behaviour for two closely related species to each other, also chimps and bonobos are equally distant from humans. Humans share ancestry with the LUCA of chimps and bonobos but humans don't act like chimps and bonobos definitely don't act like chimps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:52 PM
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My one dating app match did that, I had to carry the convo and she wanted to just be a friend in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:11 PM
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How did you get this women to tell you this and where did you meet them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:00 PM
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Lol: https://x.com/Polymarket/status/2087157960447328262?s=20
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:56 PM
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She’s a sex worker
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:03 PM
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Incredibly relevant panel
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:23 PM
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I asked a similar question a while ago and it was 50/50 Edit: this is the post
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:47 PM
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Access to their bodies is strange wording since women want and enjoy sexual as well but no I would not. I would still talk to a relate to women since I do that in my daily life with friends, classmates, professors etc. I would just go sexless and likely also go without a relationship. I personally don’t have a strong desire for children so there would be no need for that from women. I would be open to a non-sexual living situation with a woman or a man just to have someone to talk to day to day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:41 PM
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I'm not talking about Brad Pitt right now but in his prime when he was in Thelma and Louise, Interview with a Vampire, Fight Club and Troy. Justin Bieber right now doesn't have the same appeal as he did back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:14 PM
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I had an idea he was who you meant just wanted to be sure. Justin Bieber has never been the most popular male sex symbol for the female population especially not the adult female population. For early teenage girls and pre teen girls, sure he was in the 2010s(before being replaced by the one direction guys) but he was young(pre-pubescent) when he was appealing to other pre-teen/teenage girls. Brad Pitt is the best choice for the most popular male sex symbol but honestly I don't think you can cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:30 PM
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Who are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:58 PM
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Yeah people in the bp/lookism community speak on this that your pre-attractive experiences would still stunt even after you looksmax.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:00 PM
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Is it literally 1.5 before?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:53 PM
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You don't necessarily know he won't do anything about it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:00 AM
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That would be the wife's attempt to cheat not you telling the man about it. The conflict from telling him about it would be positive since you are telling someone about their sacred agreement being broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:52 AM
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What's the point when they never leave anyway? 😂 For morality's sake
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:48 AM
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First
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:18 AM
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Because broadly speaking, biologists and psychologists alike don't believe humans have "instincts" in the way my interlocutor is describing. I mean, biologists do debate the degree behaviour including attraction is socialization based vs innate but they don't say human's don't have some instincts that have remained largely unchanged, a simple example is the palmar reflex in newborns. Although that guy shot himself in the foot by saying humans have the exactly the same ones as 20,000 years ago, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:00 AM
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I know you're not a student of any biological science if you're making a claim about what human instincts are. Why do you say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:38 AM
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Yes, I do feel that way. I think majority of women want a man who is tall, lean and somewhat muscular with a good frame, a good looking face, ambitious, moderately intelligent, confident, charismatic, kind and financially successful*. My answers are largely shaped by the scientific data on women's attraction to men and to a lesser degree personal observation. * Obviously this doesn't apply to 100% of women just majority of them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:53 AM
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I was just wondering and you can ask questions not relevant to the thread if they aren't top level comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:36 AM
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Did you tell the neighbour about his wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:12 AM
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The difference between the breakfast question and this is that the breakfast question is based on ability to make an inference based on previous experiences while this question asks you to imagine how you would be if you experiences, socialization and biology were different.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:04 PM
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You're getting matches?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:17 PM
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I mean this is where the differences in socialization and biology come into play. I personally don't care about height as a man but I can predict that as a woman I would care about a man being taller just because of how much women do but I can't predict the degree unless I use averages. As far as emotional availability, I do care about it if I am going through serious emotional distress(as a man) but generally I don't in day to day life, again I assume it would be different as a woman and I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:46 PM
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If you were a woman who is into men, what sort of men would you be looking to date? What sort of life would you want for yourself? Children? Jobs/roles? Lifestyle? There's no way to answer this wrt the physical aside from the general stuff like height, face, frame, general leanness, etc because I am not attracted to men like a woman is attracted to men so it would be impossible to answer. For compatibility, I don't want kids and I don't care about someone else's money so I don't care what job yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:19 PM
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This isn't answering his question what should a struggling man do with the information that Holland isn't tall and Zendaya is slightly more attractive and taller
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:51 PM
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Women are more than capable of working in construction, doing hard labour, entering the military, whatever male dominated field you can think of There are objective physical standards for the military that far more women than men can't reach even after training, only 7% of male soldiers failed the minimum compared to 44% of female ones*. In construction and other hard labour, men also have a physical advantage though there isn't an actual on paper standard like in the military just that any phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:38 PM
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WTF, the people on this sub can be so hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:17 PM
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<image> Also wanted to post how selective it showed I was
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:00 AM
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I'm not saying you can't make joke about dark topics including SA but the punchline of his joke was just that male soldiers would be more sexually aggressive towards female ones and I personally find that to be disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:47 PM
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I don’t agree I think his joke was disgustingly and someone should have said something
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:26 PM
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So wh*te women have a revealed preference for women being raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:25 PM
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An equal number of men and women were on the panel as bystanders, is it also all women since didn't they call him out? Even then what should I as a man who only saw that clip because you brought it up do? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:24 PM
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You can say it is supposed to be fun and maybe it is fun for some men(or hell even most men) but for the men who are constantly getting rejected by women either explicitly or implicitly dating would always be a slog because you know it is more disappointment coming up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:12 AM
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Still not working
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:53 AM
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worse - don't be autistic Brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:49 AM
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Your link didn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:34 AM
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They resort to prostitutes because women refuse to do the unpaid work of pleasuring men, while receiving little to no pleasure in return. It's the natural consequence of men being inconsiderate and selfish in bed. The vast majority of men don't pay for the services of a prostitute so I doubt it, the men who do pay do it because they can't get it from normie women or they can't get sex under the conditions of anonymity(if they are rich men).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:34 AM
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Higher male sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:49 AM
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That does play into it, but also men are way higher libido than women (so much so they would be desperate enough to pay for sex). I would say the reason why women can get sex more easily is because of higher male libido. I think personality can sweeten the deal or a really poor personality can turn off a woman but I still think looks matters the most for pure hookups in most women. I understand that you are different but this is how I believe it works for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:49 AM
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At the same time, we do observe strong average differences when it comes to the consumption of porn and sex work where the clients are overwhelmingly men. The reason why men are the overwhelmingly majority of clients for prostitutes is because the average woman can get sex quite easily while the average man cannot. women have evolved to want so sleep with a man they not only physically fancy but whose personality they also like I also don't think women need to like a man's personality to have se…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:47 AM
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I don't really care beyond don't be unpleasant or disrespectful to me and other people(unless they do something to deserve it).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:53 AM
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Are you in a LTR right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:58 PM
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You said lower in this comment chain that even neurotypical men are failing at it, in what ways do you think they fail at it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:54 PM
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It also comes from this sub btw
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:12 AM
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First
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 07:18 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/1km61hi/2_million/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:13 PM
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They're married though?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:12 PM
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Nah she's a woman and she also used to post on PPD funnily enough
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:31 PM
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Unironically heartwarming
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:30 PM
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I would stay and given him my stuff as well
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:25 PM
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Homoerotic means showing, feeling, or suggesting sexual desire between people of the same sex But objectively they are more attractive Even if that is true which I think is debatable, it can still be true that men are dating women less attractive than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 08:42 AM
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Women literally say that they think women are more attractive and wish they were bi or lesbians because of that, are they homoerotic?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 08:03 AM
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I can see how it is protective in case you die but I don't see how it would work in the case of break ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:35 PM
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why not take the easy and cheap route if it's identical? If you have assets to protect marriage is less appealing. Also marriage is just more difficult to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:13 PM
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but for men the issues come in higher risk of health problems for the baby. This applies for women as well, it is just that the issues from advanced paternal age are more pscychological.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:39 PM
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So young men are just screwed and why are you assuming all the older men would be rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:30 PM
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She didn't sacrifice anything Ariel always wanted to live on the surface
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:33 AM
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There is data on this and women prefer tall men, the most preferred height difference is 9" above her and the most preferred male height was 6'. The height of the woman had no impact in her choice of taller men btw the women didn't know the numerical value of the man's height before hand and this was based on actual selection not just stated preference: https://www.gertstulp.com/pdf/Stulp%20et%20al%202013_Anim%20Behav_The%20height%20of%20choosiness.pdf Being short also started to really matter(i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:27 AM
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I'm very tolerant of a woman(people in general) getting plastic surgery but I can't imagine paying for it unless she is my wife and/or long term relationship of 5+ years at least. I would try and help with the payment for it to the best of my ability if it is just something that bothers her a lot(she also has to contribute financially to it as well) and it doesn't look ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:55 PM
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Time had past between when he said it and being rude doesn't justify pour something on someone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:07 PM
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but what started it? Nothing that's the point she just decided to pour water on him when they were sitting down. The worst he said prior to that point was a while ago(2 hours ago at least) during their date he said he would pay for the bill if she slept with him(this was after the cigarettes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:59 PM
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That particularly woman is known for poor behaviour and was bully and berating him the whole night. He also wasn't a manosphere dude he was just some random autistic crypto streamer who watched another streamer and he invited him to go on a date with that woman for views. In that date she threw a lit cigarette at him and insulted him, so he left the restaurant then later when he was sitting on his own she poured a bucket of water(not alcohol) on him, then he retaliated by pouring a bottle of wat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:40 PM
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For women if they get too muscular it would turn men off, same for men but men have more leeway in that regard
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:33 PM
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You're correct on that front as well, although to be fair to OP he likely just believes that those men will start seeing women as human beings due to proximity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:20 PM
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First of all, being friend with no purpose of dating anyone help you have clarity about how women think. You can already learn what women think by observing their behaviour and reading studies on women's attraction to men. Frankly you might just get bad advice from your female friends like looks and height don't matter it is all about the personality. Secondly, you would receive advices about what you're wearing, your grooming or your lifestyle. This only works if they are the type of woman you …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:45 PM
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Men are more likely to intervene to save a stranger than women* are while women were more likely to not intervene at all. * Men were also more likely to encourage escalation as bystanders but my point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:19 PM
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Height boosters: https://www.amazon.com/4-Layer-Increase-Insoles-Cushion-Inserts/dp/B079JWJB8K/ref=asc_df_B079JWJB8K?mcid=a4b870bb3d163205ab53ce428ccbc343&tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=706828956941&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1172969893042956612&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000633&hvtargid=pla-634258011357&hvocijid=1172969893042956612-B079JWJB8K-&hvexpln=0&gad_source=1&th=1
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:52 AM
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Body positivity didn't actually increase the attractiveness of fat women to men so it would likely not do so for men. The only thing it might do is make it not socially acceptable to mock short and balding men(and honestly I highly doubt that would happen).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:50 AM
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Men didn't do it for women though and women had less input into how they wanted men to look unlike today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:45 AM
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Still just to be safe
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:11 PM
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How are you making the money?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:06 PM
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You should probably repost this with your face blurred out
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:00 PM
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There's data on this and no women don't care about personality over looks, both men and women care about looks equally as the most important thing: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283875457_Do_Men_and_Women_Exhibit_Different_Preferences_for_Mates_A_Replication_of_Eastwick_and_Finkel_2008 Obviously it matters but only if you meet the looks bar first.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:32 PM
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since I have nothing in common with women. How come?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:24 PM
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Did she do it 15 times in 1 hour while making back handed compliments and lying about the level of commitment you have? Nothing in the study indicates that this was what happened when those men ask more than once.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:58 PM
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It isn't a lie in my scenario and lying is manipulative depending on lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:16 PM
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Point is that the other person might say yes and want it under different circumstances or with more information.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:14 PM
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Why are you trying to change her mind anyway? I've never done that but presumably the person in question is attracted to her and figures if I give her previously unknown information about myself she might change her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:07 PM
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How are you manipulating someone by telling them your job it is persuasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:39 PM
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It is not manipulation to manipulate someone you have to use exploitative tactics on them, her choice isn't manipulated because she still has the option to reasonably say no, if she still doesn't find him appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:32 PM
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Coercion requires there to be physical and/or psychological pressure/manipulation, what was the pressure in my scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:11 PM
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How is that deceptive or any different? Because say had not consented implies that the woman didn't change her mind and consent during any period prior to the sex. They are still not respecting her consent. One of the things there is that you used your money and status to convince her. How is it not respecting someones consent if she says no initially then you bring up that you play football professionally to convince her and that causes her to change her mind. Not respecting someone consent wrt…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:38 AM
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A 2 year window. 95% of these guys did that in the last 2 years. TWO years. The study deliberately excluded men who hadn't had sex in 2 years or were virgins: "Men were eligible if they self-identified as men, were in the age range 18 to 34 years, and reported having had a sexual encounter with a woman in the past 2 years.. Rationale: Men are far more likely to be perpetrators of sexual aggression than are women (Koss et al., 2022). These ages correspond to the age group with the highest rates o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:23 AM
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Villains are meant to be intimidating so they end up looking cool
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:45 PM
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That's actually funny
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:50 PM
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New(this year) study on how height, penis(flaccid) size and a v taper influence male attractiveness assessment by women and fighting ability assessment by men. As a lot of you might expect more height, a bigger penis size and more of a v taper influence were rated as more attractive by women and all three were also rated by men as more physically formidable(including a bigger penis). Men were also more jealous of the men who had more height, a bigger penis size and more of a v taper. Greater pen…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:31 PM
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This is why a man can still commit rape even if a woman ultimately says yes. If you're deliberately seeking out someone in a vulnerable position and leveraging socioeconomic status, power, dependence, or other forms of pressure to get that yes, you're missing what informed, meaningful, ongoing consent actually requires. If a woman(or man) says yes and it isn't a coerced yes, then it is not rape. What does leveraging socioeconomic status even mean here? If a man flaunts his wealth to get an attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:37 PM
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Okay but what does this have to do with dating/relationship dynamics?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:55 PM
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Jesus, that's rough man
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:01 PM
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WTF, if you don't mind me asking how did that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:53 PM
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What does Clavicular say that you find as objectionable as Tate or Fuentes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:47 PM
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He never said anything about vulnerable people, if a man is upper class then a middle class women is lower in socio-economic status. Even upper middle vs lower middle qualifies, he also said nothing about men actively looking for that just that it happens because men don't care about socio-economic class that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:29 PM
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<image> Q4M: Which don't you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:27 PM
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How is that rapey, what does that have to do with rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:18 PM
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their genetics are low quality and need to be filtered out. Why do they need to be filtered out?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:53 AM
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I don't agree, I do think she would have to vet to see if the guy is worth commitment and a ltr but average looking women would get a relationship fairly easily especially if they actively look for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:03 AM
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I know this might seem like me trying to cheer you up but I saw your pictures and you're not ugly even the most strict judgement would label you a 4/10 but I would say you're closer to average looking. You can have your friends take pictures of you or even just take mirror selfies(trust me men don't care), I can personally also say that I would swipe right on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:38 AM
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Yes because murder, the killing of innocent people, is bad regardless of the victim being a prostitute, john or a normie
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:33 AM
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Well, I can understand that and it sucks but it just is how the world works people(both men and women) are nicer to more attractive people. This might be unsolicited advice but have tried dating using a dating app because while it won't be guaranteed success it would give you more options with men and I am not just talking about guys looking for a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:31 AM
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Men are talking about the average woman when they say women have endless options. I personally do believe that unattractive women have less options and if you are a 3/10 or less woman you would have to work more than the average woman(but not as much as the average man) and might even have to approach men. That being said what do you mean by consider you a woman? Do you mean men are attracted/lust over you by checking you out in public? That men do gender roles for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:13 AM
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If a prostitute was talking about how johns are committing more murders of prostitutes and other sex workers people would comment on how those men are scum. No one wants to prostitutes being killed and people do care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:05 AM
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If you're at least a 4/10 woman or an attractive male it would work, aside from that it is very unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 11:24 PM
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You can also drastically alter your face with diet and exercise, which is a skill thing. Not unless you were very overweight or really skinny to start
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 11:22 PM
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Then it isn't a "skill issue", it is a money issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:47 PM
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Do you believe men can substantially alter their face or height?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:43 PM
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That's insane even for this place
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:24 PM
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I think you're all sick in the head and should be launched expeditiously into the sun for the betterment of humanity over all Why? What is wrong with a man who can't get a relationship the conventional way entering an arrangement with a woman to be in a paid relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:19 PM
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Find it funny most people here are ignoring that some of these women are committing violence crimes like murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:16 PM
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Yeah and women make fun of that statement because it is ridiculous same as when say that about makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:00 PM
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Okay I would grant that maybe an older woman is likely to be able to sense bad behaviour or insecurity more due to experience but why is it that the statement isn't older women can smell x better?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:51 PM
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The only reason i can come up with is that you don't think that misogyny is an issue women should pay attention to, and it's unfair to choose based on this, so you protect misogynists, or just blind to them because that level of hate is just a normal attitude. That is a huge leap, I never said women don't see misogyny as a negative, they do but i just don't think they can smell it or any other negative behaviour unless it is overt or they are actively looking for implicit signs which most women …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:44 PM
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I disagree, the reason why men bring up the women and being able to smell bad behaviour and also the women choosing men for fairly is that women say they can do these things fairly often. Women say they can smell misogyny or insecurity, they also say that they are fairer in their assessment of men and care more about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:30 PM
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Unless the girl is underaged and the "boy" is an adult, the only older men who can consistently get younger women are the most attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:53 PM
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Some of these scenarios you describe are different like the one with the freshman and the teachers was likely just because he understood that the isn't much the female teacher can do to him compared to an adult male who could physically hurt him. Part of it is due to sexism like dismissing women's opinions and the women only watch sports because they are attracted to the players. I also disagree with the IShowSpeed idolization of Ronaldo vs Swifties, people do make fun of men for obsession with …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:50 PM
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It’s complicated while the archaic Greeks(from the time the Iliad was composed) likely believed there was nothing wrong with a man being move to tears for real shit, there was likely also a gendered view of crying considering that later in the Iliad Achilles makes fun Patroclus for crying. He explicitly says he is crying like a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 11:49 AM
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The only way your son can become an incel is if you give him unideal genetics both physical and/or mental(neurodivergence) or he just had poor socialization growing. up. If you think you birth one then just don't have any kids, adopt or do IVF, sex selective abortion is just evil regardless of the child's sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:31 AM
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I think women like that just compartmentalize that aspect while the men themselves likely have internalized misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:58 PM
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I'm assuming that because of your race and the stereotypes around black men and fat women they think it would be possible to get a more attractive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:50 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:45 PM
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Are you a black male?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:44 PM
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Disclaimer: I have never been in a romantic relationship. I would personally just make my intentions specifically clear from the beginning and can't imagine being in that close of a relationship with someone and it not being serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:24 PM
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How tall are her parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:54 PM
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You also have a fallacy; "how men behave" isn't naturalistic- men have been shown to inflate their libido when not on a polygraph (deflating it when hooked up to a lie detector) or when in the presence of peers. Men aren't a monolith. There's no such biological thing as "the male gaze". Where is the evidence for this because the only evidence I have found related to this topic says that there is no statistically significant difference for men if men whether they are subject to a bogus pipeline o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:01 AM
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This is a different word usage from merit as a noun, the definition says that when it is used as a noun it is a value or an advantage. The verb form is just a synonym for justify
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:13 AM
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The sample place you can find someone who deadlifts 700lbs IRL. Both things are so rare that someone can go their life without see them unless they specifically look for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:05 AM
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There is nothing in any of the definitions of merit there that says it has to be earned, just that it is free of external biases like nepotism. In the definition of meritocracy you posted talent is listed as a basis which people are judged do you think people earn their talents?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:04 AM
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Why do you say being attractive isn’t a merit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:37 AM
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There are benefits, for one there are a lot more straight women and bi/pan women than gay/bi men so it would be easier to find a partner. There is also the social benefit from passing as straight namely you get no homophobia and if you want kids it would be easier with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:19 PM
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The only ways to substantially improve your looks as a man is gym to lose weight and improve your frame and plastic surgery for your height and facial flaws. All the stuff you brought up there either straight up don’t matter for your looks like eye lash curlers or are fraudmaxxing methods which will just lead to rejection and mockery by women when they find out you are faking like the height boosters(which short men actually do wear), shapewear and fake bulge. Even something like skincare which …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:30 PM
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So you won’t listen to/read data that show that looks matters as much if not more for men because women get advertised things that only marginally affect their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:58 PM
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Personal curiosity
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:37 PM
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Lol, nice catch
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:35 PM
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How is asking about periods sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:34 PM
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I didn't say those men don't exist they do but I am talking about typical complaints, I would also like to say there is a difference between a man complaining about his dating experience due to those standards vs complaining that women have those standards and saying they are shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:36 AM
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I would pick casual then
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:30 AM
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You're talking about your earlier post right? I didn't engage with it but I did lurk and the men weren't generally complaining about women's preferences. They were talking about the feasibility of improving in the way you described and talking about how it is more preferable to be desired for yourself as opposed to superficial factors, like money or building a gym body, you have to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:28 AM
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If only that was all he did
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:13 AM
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You can have any preference you want even if it is unrealistic. What men typically complain about is women downplaying or denying the standards/preference that they have or saying men are shallow for their preference but their own preferences are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:11 AM
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Can I also get hot women for LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:01 AM
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The Tates have been arrested: https://x.com/Clav0Updates/status/2078636061073310049?s=20
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:53 AM
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Except lying isn't always coercive. Coercion involves something done to directly compel an action, for it to be coercive there has to be some measure of potential negative impacts if you say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:54 PM
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I didn't dismiss it because of the sample, I was pointing out the issues with using the survey for estimate the percentage of men that would rape. That is the reason I also pointed out that it wasn't an estimation of the men who say they would force(or rape) someone to have sex but about if they have ever felt the desire to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:16 AM
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Well, I guess this is just a difference of opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:12 AM
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Imagine a scenario where a man meets a woman in a bar after chatting her up a bit he alludes to sex and she says she doesn't know but he tell her that she's the most beautiful woman there and other things. Is it coercion if he doesn't really believe she is the most beautiful woman there?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:59 AM
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I didn't include those one specifically because I just wanted to go over the ones that people would universally understand that they are problematic to classify as coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:10 AM
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The link above only has 372 from the 2019 sample and 172 from the 1984 sample. No questions were provided to check for biasing in the data collection nor does it give any parameters for the sampling selection. The sample sizes of 372 and 172 are a lot better than 86, it isn't as good one in the 1000s especially the 172 one but you can start to at least make some rough assumptions about the population. nor does it give any parameters for the sampling selection. It follows the parameters of a prev…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:10 AM
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95% of men between 18-34 admitting to using sexual coercion as long as you don't call it sexual coercion. In that survey, "Told her whatever she wanted to hear" and "Had a female friend around to make the woman Feel safe and convince her" are counted as sexual coercion. In fact the vast majority of the things there either don't qualify as sexual coercion or are incredibly vague. Also it isn't 95% of men those ages or 95% of sexually active men or 95% of men those ages that have ever had sex, jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:10 AM
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Poor looks in men reduces their chances of getting a partner but it doesn't do so in women. This indicates that at least some average looking or even attractive men are dating below their looks level leaving unattractive men with less options.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:02 PM
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What is any context in which you would think that is acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:43 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:47 AM
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Yeah but you can pay them compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:59 PM
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If women suck so much at social support, then why don't men just talk to other men? Because one of them actually has to set his needs aside for someone else's benefit, be empathetic and listen. This is unpaid work that men expect from women, but the issue is that men don't reciprocate and women are tired of it. The reason why men don't talk to other men is because men don't care about other men. Men talking with other men about personal issues is the equivalent of two narcissists constantly talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:34 AM
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The reasons why men tend to complain more about this online is one because it is less socially acceptable for a man to talk about this to his irl friends or even his family especially now with incel accusations so he goes online to talk about it anonymously. There is also the fact that the vast majority of women could easily get a man to date her short term or even long term while most men cannot do so as easily. Finally the different social roles of men and women wrt dating men are more likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:54 AM
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They do, I’m not saying a woman is immoral for choosing to have a kid on her own. I only mean cases where she does it with the expectation that taxes should pay for the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:05 AM
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She’s being sarcastic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:02 AM
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I get what you mean but I can't think of any black guy that looks like that right now
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:44 AM
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The immorality is expecting others to pay for the kid, I say consider for those who literally can't afford a child because it is possible that their fortunes might change or family and friends might help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:41 AM
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Do you mean like similar ethnicity? If so, then I think someone like Austin Dunham
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:35 AM
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Like massive fake breasts, a lot of lip filler, extreme body modifications
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:45 AM
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That's fine, has it affected your dating life?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:58 AM
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It depends on how outrageous the plastic surgery is, I don't see anything wrong with plastic surgery but if it is out of the ordinary I would consider not dating her. Other men may disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:53 AM
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It depends poverty varies and if you literally can't afford child then you should consider not having children. I say this with the position that society should take care of poor/disabled people but it should also try to give them work if there is availablility.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:24 AM
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We do but not every solution to maintain the population or at least have a sustainable decrease is good
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:54 PM
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He's not unattractive but he isn't handsome, he is a slightly above average(6/10) looking guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:53 PM
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So they can work but just choose not to? I'm not talking about people with any physical or mental illnesses or difficulty finding work. I'm talking about people who can but just don't want to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:41 PM
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So why wasn’t he asking when she didn’t bring up physical attraction? I don't know I'm sure a lot of them did. That’s an indication of poor social skills. What is?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:01 PM
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That’s the lie that men tell themselves to cope. Most women who seek out actual sperm donation are pretty well off. I am not talking about you or any other woman who can afford it, the paper literally proposes transferring tax dollars to support women choosing this route: We suggest that two main elements are key to making individualistic reproduction sufficiently appealing, one economic and the other social. Women must feel economically secure, regardless of whether they want to work fulltime, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:58 PM
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It doesn't matter whether or not those women work and pay taxes, they are still expect others to pay for their future kids instead of making more money to pay for them. Taxes are to be paid for societal goods and incentivizing women to have kids they can't afford is not a societal good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:28 PM
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It's irrelevant because your relative contribution or lack thereof isn't want determines whether societal wealth should be transferred to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:25 PM
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Voluntarily choosing to become a single mother when you don't have the money to pay for the kid and then expecting others to foot the bill against their own volition is what is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:21 PM
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It is but I also disagree with those who are in favour of restrict female rights to increase the birth rate because it is also immoral and trying to reverse a problem by promoting immorality is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:03 PM
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NEETs dont contribute to society. Mothers do. That's irrelevant, I brought up NEETs because most people would agree that poor people suffering is a bad thing but would understand the immorality of paying for someone who voluntarily put themselves in a bad situation. Single parenthood isn't bad behaviour. Voluntarily choosing to become a single mother when you don't have the money to pay for the kid and then expecting other to foot the bill is bad behaviour. I never said single motherhood is blan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:01 PM
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completely on their own terms "Their own terms" involves transferring tax dollars to them so that actually isn't good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:46 PM
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The most popular example is guys asking a woman what she wants in a guy and then getting upset physical attractiveness was never brought up. Looks are part(and the most important part) of what women and men want in partners so if a man ask what a woman wants in men, it isn't weird for him to expect her to talk about looks. when guys complain about being used for a free meal Being used for a free meal is in the context of expecting an actual date with a woman. Another example is “how to talk to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:44 PM
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Taxes exist as a means of promoting social good, it is immoral to take people's taxes to incentivize the bad behaviour of other people. This is like giving NEETs who can work but choose not to do so more money so they can live better lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:13 PM
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You're in favour of tax revenue being transferred to pay for women to become single moms? Because that is a proposal in the paper: We suggest that two main elements are key to making individualistic reproduction sufficiently appealing, one economic and the other social. Women must feel economically secure, regardless of whether they want to work fulltime, parttime, or not at all while raising their children. That is why we propose experiments should begin soon, to find out what level of economic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:03 PM
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Tbf isekai and romance anime geared towards men also have blank slate male character getting more attarctive women, although the man has to do something prior to attract the woman. It is jut self-insert wish fulfilment for both sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:40 AM
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Sorry about that, did he just ghost you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:42 AM
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willing to take any woman can take moral high ground about how better they are than those picky devils. It's not about being better most of the time, it is about showing that them having high standards isn't the reason for their lack of options. As a man with low standards, I personally won't enter a relationship with anyone just that I would consider most women as a potential options for a relationship, the same applies to other men like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:41 AM
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What she's into btw: Even though I’ve only had genuine physical attraction to a small amount of males, the ones I usually end up liking are: usually Caucasian, but with dark features, like dark hair and dark eyes. good face shape and jaw. facial hair usually but depends on the face so that’s not set stone., and always 6ft and above. And yes I’m aware there’s many men like this who have dark features, but it’s very specific with me. I’ve seen many men with these type of features and they still do…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:52 AM
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Unless it is POV you can see the guy's face but they typically are average to below average looking
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:31 AM
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There are examples from the incel forum of men travelling to other countries and hooking up/dating women over there without spending money on them. Certain traits like height and fairer skin are seen as more attractive if you go to a country with shorter men and less men with that phenotype then you will do better there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:20 AM
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How can I get rid of my libido without become an actual or a functional castrate? Also the desire for a romantic relationship would still be there They still want their high libido, they still want to believe they'll generate real attraction in Thailand or Colombia Some unattractive men can go to countries where they are seen as more attractive because they are taller than the men there, because their ethnic traits are more attractive in those countries or just that women like men better there(b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:59 AM
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Amazing how they had all that free time to pursue their passions They were typically wealthy or monks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:02 AM
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What was the statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:51 AM
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I don't think that guy did anything wrong but I can understand why some women don't like it, video here. The guy plainly and bluntly stated his expectations for the relationship, where I can see issues arise is if she says yes because she initially wants to have sex but later in the date she doesn't like the guy and doesn't want to continue. Realistically consent for sex is an in the moment thing and he did give her out but you can't set it up like a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:31 PM
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Do you have a link to the voice memo video Edit: never mind I found it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:05 PM
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The only evidence I found was the fact that arsenic used to be colloquially referred to as 'inheritance powder.' This is about elite during the age of nobility killing their kin for inheritance not about wives killing their husbands. As for you idea that forensic analysis was rudimentary in the 50s, sure but people knew what the signs of arsenic and thallium poisoning particularly arsenic since it has been known to be poisonous along with its signs since the victorian era.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:14 PM
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So what happened you told your friends you were looking for someone or you just saw them in a friend meet up?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:54 PM
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Women regularly say that they don't like it if men try to be their friends first in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:43 PM
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males should not be movie critics or people in power or anything, in fact most of them deserve to be disposable because all they care about is sex and their dicks and looks of women and how women who aren't their type or women who says no to them shouldn't exist. You are male, why do you constantly seem to think that because you are gay you've stopped being in the category man. That is an edgelord joke that isn't a very common one because most men don't think that is funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:37 PM
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Looks are important but they aren't the foundation for an enjoyable fuck or relationship. Looks are the most important factor for a relationship and for a hookup Young attractive men are dying, injecting themselves with gold, and taking hammers to their face because they are listening to other men telling them they are ugly. Connor Murphy didn't die because of looks obsession, he died because he had been losing his wits for a long time since taking Ayahuasca. He literally believe injecting gold …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:33 PM
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looks are the only thing that can compensate, and any man who is fixated solely on looks it telling. If a man doesn't met a woman's minimum looks bar then she won't consider his personality for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:24 PM
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Why can't it be most of it? Because part of it is also because of his looks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:40 PM
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Q4W, Do you agree with the lady in yellow in this scenario, was the guy doing anything wrong because from what I can tell he was being respectful throughout the interaction: https://x.com/ReclaimD1/status/2075232421599990128
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:38 PM
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At what point could it just be the guy’s fault? I acknowledged he has some blame here: "The guy in question, just wasn't attractive and had an unappealing profile on top of it."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:16 PM
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# 3. He’s doesnt act desperate. I thought women could smell desperation and weren't attracted to it? The guy in question, just wasn't attractive and had an unappealing profile on top of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:20 PM
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How is this a debate? And why are you pretending you don't know the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:11 AM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:17 AM
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The study was about relationships, marriage specifically not just casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:31 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:54 PM
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It's fine if you want a tall man but that isn't the only thing women want in a man physically, they also want a good face, leanness, and good frame. Women also care about looks as much as men when it comes to selecting a partner: https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/eli-finkel/documents/EastwickFinkel2008_JPSP.pdf Poor looks in men also reduces their chance of finding a partner but not for women. I personally don't think you are shallow even if you only care about looks, I don't think that is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:51 PM
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It's fine if you want a tall man but that isn't the only thing women want in a man physically, they also want a good face, leanness, and good frame. Women also care about looks as much as men when it comes to selecting a partner: https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/eli-finkel/documents/EastwickFinkel2008_JPSP.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:44 PM
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No, I am not. If you go to the Data, variables and methods, the researchers themselves go over this the reason for the second survey being included was as a robustness check the same reason why two models were used: In addition, two robustness checks were performed in order to discover if the results were consistent using different techniques. The key dependent variable, which will be explained later, was derived from the interviewers’ scores on interviewees. Therefore, apart from the original a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:31 PM
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I'm not, everything I said there is from survey 2975 while the other survey 3004 didn't show a statistically significant difference aside from a 1 percentage point difference in model 4. There is also just a difference/problem in survey 3004 in the sense that it used quota sampling as opposed to probability sampling which can introduce bias in the modelling. The reason I was addressing survey 2975 is because that was the primary data being studied and it is the one used to make conclusion on att…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:12 PM
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Yeah, it happens but for what it is worth blackpill channels like rehab room and wheat waffles don't say that, just that looks are most important
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:09 PM
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I literally said there's basically no difference between attractive men and average men. That dispels the whole belief on Chads. So 10 percentage point vs 15 percentage points is basically no difference to you? Secondly, it shows the the difference between average men and ugly men to be small. Again 10 percentage points is small to you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:49 PM
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Factors besides looks (education level) significantly affect chances of finding a partner? Aside looks, personality is the next most important factor according other studies, then financial status: https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/eli-finkel/documents/EastwickFinkel2008_JPSP.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:37 PM
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Nope. The percent increase of very attractive is pretty much the same as average (it's actually lower in a few instances). No, it's not for survey one it is higher for all the models with statistical significance even in the second survey all it showed was that there wasn't any statistically significant difference in most models. Also in the interest of honesty I actually made a mistake in my first quote response, all the models fro survey 3004(the second survey) showed no statistical significan…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:19 PM
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7-10% less likely. That means in a group do 100 ugly men and 100 average men, ~92 ugly men will have a partner for ever 100 average partnered men. This isn't the interpretation since the average looking men also suffered a reduced likelihood of entering a relationship compared to attractive men except in one model which didn't control for educational level, social origin and age. This also shows that there's not really a significant difference between average and very attractive men, which also …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:43 PM
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You can be below average in looks but above average in wealth though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:21 PM
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So the problem isn't that short/unattractive men can't get dates at home, it's that they can't get the level of women they want. Unattractive men are less likely to find any woman: https://reis.cis.es/index.php/reis/article/view/826/1056
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:20 PM
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Not the real only solution, I've said it before but the solutions if you have tried and your looks are the problem are looksmaxxing(hard and soft), becoming a beta bux with the knowledge that you are beta buxxing, geomaxxing and passportbro paying for escorts and finally find satisfaction in other areas of life to replace your desire for a relationship such as career success, hobbies or friendships. Which ever solution you pick is based on your means and your tolerance to unideal situations like…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:16 PM
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When was the last time you saw a man in the mainstream make fun of a woman's body like AOC making fun of Stephen Miller for his perceived short height(he is actually 5'10) and not get backlash?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:21 AM
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Most women do not even know about hip dips. The only reason why men started bringing up hip dips was because they notice women talking about not liking them on their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:11 AM
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It hasn't been socially acceptable for a man to make fun of women for their looks since at least the 2010s but it has always been fine to make fun of a man for his height.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:57 AM
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https://x.com/FlvffyKitty/status/2061468459850989606?s=20
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:53 AM
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Just for lols
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:43 AM
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Makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:24 AM
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Why did you add male vs female, if this was for women only?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:12 AM
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Didn't this get deleted last time?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:05 AM
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https://www.tiktok.com/@dustin__wayne/video/7636621028222962975?q=Dustin%20Wayne%20just%20ask%20her%20out&t=1783656234337
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:04 AM
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Can anyone give me advice on this journey / tell me if it's a good idea? If you have the height and the frame you would look good and maybe even better to some women depending on how big you are
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:03 AM
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Buccal fat removal would likely just make him look uncanny
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:01 AM
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Specific bluepill influencers don't exists because it is just mainstream opinions and advice, you only recognized Trevor Noah but Pod Save America is a left wing podcast that has at one point been more listened to than Joe Rogan(not for long but still it happened). I think very few, if any, of these men are true idealogues. I think they will adopt whatever viewpoint makes them money; if it was more beneficial for Joe Rogan or Myron Gaines to lean blue, they absolutely would. All of those people …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:53 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:01 PM
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The amount of times I’ve seen a single man: Henry Cavill (literally Superman) be held up as the ideal of masculinity that all men should try to emulate or be considered a failure. I think this is also where the idea of women being Hypergamous comes from. If all men are trying to achieve the same idealised outcome, then they can only be judged on how well they succeed at that. The reason why Henry Cavill is held up as the idea of masculinity is because wrt dating and attracting women he is(or was…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:51 AM
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It’s some guy’s hinge message I saw on twitter
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:03 AM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:28 AM
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All of those monsters are tall and have fit humanoid bodies even the Frankenstein was just Jacob Elordi in makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:51 PM
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I'm 5'7.5"(so I'm short but not very) and I'm muscular, this is the last pic I took of myself <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:08 PM
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That isn't me, the last woman I asked out was in her 40s(I am 23) and I regularly swipe right on overweight bordering obese women but get no matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:00 PM
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It's funny because he is an objectively tall men but that isn't good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:23 PM
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That's disgusting, did you report him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:55 PM
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So a TA?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:53 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:50 PM
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The professor did that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:49 PM
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I thought you were already married
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:42 PM
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ugly women can fuck a male godlike looking guy with 0 dollars. No, they can't they can get an average looking guy and a more attractive but still below average guy(3 or 4) if they are ugly(less than a 3/10) but never a 7+ guy in the vast majority of cases. And he is larping, he aint a escort. There is no such thing as a male escort. He literally has reviews from women: https://ozinlondon.co.uk/reviews/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:04 PM
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One of the mods on r/sexworkers is a male escort that caters to both sexes and women also care about looks equally as much as men wrt partner selection. Just because women have a lower sex drive than men and can get a man to have sex with them doesn't mean she would get the man with the looks that she wants even if she can more often that not get a man that is slightly more attractive than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:39 PM
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Most of you arent hot enough for other factors not to matter. This isn't a response to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:37 PM
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Media can influence some of your views and perspectives but I highly doubt it would influence the views men have about sexual scenarios because everything in their lives show that stuff like that doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:34 PM
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People generally expect members of the in-group to have more insight about that group. It is for the same reason why women semi-regularly ask questions about male sexual interests to men despite male interests being widely know from several media. There is also a question of the degree to which it matters. You can get an idea that height matters to women from the fact that romantic male leads in female media are typically tall and women on social media attacking and lusting for men based on thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:32 PM
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She clearly has a sarcastic tone. No, she does not. And she also said give me an ugly man. She clearly can spot someone that’s not attractive . And? The point is that she is giving misinformation wrt looks and dating She’s also a comedian. Do you think comedians are always doing a bit? What a conincidence thats she’s also conventionally attractive. I clicked the first non-blackpill video about this that showed up on my search, I am also not sure why this matters unless you believe that attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:12 PM
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So? That didnt change my point. It’s not women’s fault these guys were too stupid to realize physical attraction still mattered. He should have asked that specifically. Most adults are not your mommy. We’re not gonna cater to you. Women themselves on reddit say that women aren't as looks driven as men(not true) and that height doesn't matter to women. As for your question that he should have asked that specifically, that makes no sense because you can just as easily say any other trait that make…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:06 PM
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Most people's(including women's) sexual interest conform to societal standards, as a woman even if you are one with non-standard interests in men you can notice the generalities that women as a group are attracted to like height.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:44 PM
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Most men don't believe porn is real life wrt its scenario so this argument doesn't make any sense. There is a reason that making fun of porn scenarios happening irl is an increasingly common type of stock humour, it is because people know it is unrealistic. If I am wrong, then someone actually show me society and social media lying to guys about dating. https://www.tiktok.com/@siennahubertross/video/7366268173420645678?q=women%20don%27t%20care%20about%20looks&t=1783427508536 https://x.com/emkeno…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:41 PM
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Imagine if men had the reproductive and sexual power of women. What do you think they would do with it? Probably fck as many hoes as they possibly can. Why do you assume this? When men have money from winning the lottery or have a higher income their marriage rates go up, it also makes men more like to get married, the opposite happens for women. I would say that most men if they had the same sexual power as women they would likely pursue relationships. I also agree that you shouldn't be angry a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:25 AM
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The all-male draft does not exist in any egalitarian (feminist) countries. What countries do you consider egalitarian (feminist) countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:14 AM
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How am I backtracking? I said more men are interested in taller women than women interested in shorter men, how does the study disprove that? If you scroll lower you can also see a graph that directly compares the likelihood of saying yes by height difference and men's likelihood doesn't go down much even for a woman who is 10cm taller but <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:19 PM
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It measured the strength of both men's and women's height preferences and women's was stronger than men's <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:02 PM
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I just saw it can't believe she said that and then claims it is about his compassion and empathy while bringing up that he is tall and handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:32 PM
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More men are interested in taller women(even women taller than them) than women interested in shorter men: https://www.gertstulp.com/pdf/Stulp%20et%20al%202013_Anim%20Behav_The%20height%20of%20choosiness.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:25 PM
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On desktop look on the right side of the subreddit page and you'll see user flair, you can add a flair from there
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:24 PM
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The vast majority of men are attracted almost exclusively by physical appearance (a guy sees a pair of thighs and a pair of tits and immediately wants to get laid), whereas most women also need emotional and mental involvement. That doesn’t mean looks don’t matter to women, but very often they’re not enough. Looks are the most important factor for both sexes in selecting a partner for both sexes, personality is next and it matters very similarly. The real question is: if this is really how attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:03 PM
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I assumed this was just a study survey like appears occasionally
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:31 AM
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Female students are more likely to take university loans than male students in the US at least. They are also more likely to take a greater amount of loans: https://educationdata.org/student-loan-debt-by-gender
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:11 PM
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I changed the link because that one didn't specify if it was a victim of another person or just two people in general conflict situations but yeah men being more likely to exacerbate an already tense situation doesn't negate the fact that if you're in conflict with someone a man is more likely to physically, verbally and even calm the situation. Women were more likely to just not intervene. This is the original link in case anyone wants to read it: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/08…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:07 AM
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Men have already been proven to be more likely to intervene to save a bystander: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38376350/ Edit: wrong link
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:51 AM
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I don't think men should intervene as in it should be a societal obligation to women since we don't live in a society where women have duties to men but I do think you should do it out of the goodness of your heart and with the understanding that it is better for society for people to generally help each other if others are in danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:04 AM
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Young men are more physically attractive than older men and that is the most important thing for female selection. A young woman would prefer a young man for that reason alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:06 PM
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In your opinion, if he was able to date while young and get married, was he ever an incel to begin with? Fakecel or truecel? I don't know I would have to see how he looks and if he was neurodivergent, you can be an incel and then ascend(i.e find a relationship or have sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 02:19 PM
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Yes I can and I did with my source. You "can" in the literal meaning of the world but what I meant is that it won't be valid to project it on first world dating dynamics since it is skewed by people in the third world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 02:04 PM
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Yes and my point is that you can't project that trend for first world countries which is the general perspective on this forum
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:59 PM
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That study included third world countries in their survey and according to that survey women are also becoming more sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:50 PM
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I agree with the overall sentiment but you shouldn't have been absolutist in your position about women rejecting toxic, violent and sexist men, it undermines your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:29 PM
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And people like that guy will claim to be progressive minded people, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:36 AM
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Cauliflower ear or gang tattoos
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:35 AM
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There isn’t one macro level solution, the solutions proposed are looksmaxxing(hard and soft), geomaxxing(going to another country where the looks competition is weaker), becoming a provider who is only in a relationship because of his utility to her, abandoning relationships for other life enrichment or paying for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:18 AM
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Dating apps have influenced things but I would say that it is just that women have their own jobs and a less attractive guy can’t buy his way into a relationship. I’m personally not blackpilled because some of them take extreme positions like overexaggering the number of men who would never get a relationship but I think the case for looks being king is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:11 AM
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The vast majority of the blackpill men don’t advocate against women’s right or do anything of the other stuff. The incel forum is an extremism forum that exists because incels got banned from everywhere. I am in rehab room’s discord and patreon, as it stands he is the biggest blackpill YouTuber and he has never advocated for that on his forums, the same applies to wheat waffles and tails(although the latter is another extremist entirely). Very few blackpillers say looks are the only thing that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:50 PM
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It’s not nihilism, it is closer to realism. No one can say anything about those men whether they are above average looking or what kind of relationship they are in
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:34 PM
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If you average looking it can happen every once in a while for you but it isn't common.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:36 AM
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You have the chance to pick any superpower and you pick that, utter vaginal slave
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:29 AM
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Geomaxxing is about going to a country where your looks are preferred or at least the competition isn’t as bad while being a passport bro is more about using your better economic position to secure a woman in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:23 PM
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Goon was started by porn addicts(or fake porn addicts)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:28 AM
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Except sex isn’t economics you aren’t getting opposite sex attention abroad because of relative “purchasing power,” yall are getting attention because you are exploiting poor women in poorer countries. They aren't being exploited considering that they had to have found a way to survive in those countries before the man came. Men can also go to another country where they are seen as more attractive for being taller or of a different ethnicity than the men in those countries. Even if it was exploi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:28 PM
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Passport broing is but geomaxxing is a viable strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:21 PM
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but unless you’re a hideously unattractive man then it doesn’t really hit you negatively, it just gives other guys an advantage, which like good for them I guess. If an attractive or very attractive male has a leg up in the workplace over you as an average male then you are being disadvantaged by your looks. And while I do feel bad for the guys who get body shamed, most of it is just on the internet. People don’t really say that stuff in the real world. Yes they do, I got made fun of for being s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:43 AM
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But in your day to day life, unless you’re still in high school or your profession directly involves your appearance, no one really cares how you look. Being less attractive as a man has more of a hit to your socioeconomic status than it does for women: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ssqu.13320 In general, attractive people get the halo effect but an attractive woman will get both women are wonderful and halo effect so people would just be more likely to do stuff for her and view he…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:32 PM
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Why tolerate and not enjoy the sex if you are attracted to him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:50 PM
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No not necessarily, she said a man who is in the top 15% of all categories income, education, social class vs a man in top 15% of looks categories i.e face, body, height. They won't be both 15% since not every man in the top 15% of one category would necessarily be in the top 15% of another.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:54 PM
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The women in the comments said that it was about objectification and I can understand if it is literally constant groping when you're doing chores but I can't understand why she would hate her husband showing he finds her attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:42 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:30 AM
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Sorry about that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:17 AM
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Women literally say the worst things about short men and how men who are 5'8 should kill themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:21 AM
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If you look at his comment history, he talks about jacking off so much that it’s leaving scars on his penis. Jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:41 PM
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I have see studies about relationship satisfaction that men care more but in mate selection it is equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:42 PM
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Women are less regarding than men when it comes to appearance. This isn't true women care about looks just as much as men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:21 PM
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The is incorrect on two grounds, the idea that beautiful men are less common than beautiful women isn't true. The second reason relates to the first which is that men are far more attracted to women than women are to men so men already simp for and give privilege to the average woman and give even more to attractive women. The only reason it seems that an attractive man has more privilege than an attractive woman is because the average man doesn't get any simping or privilege for his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:17 PM
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Just the rules according to the mods the looks posts were too much so they created the biweekly thread
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:09 PM
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This going to get taken down, no looks posts allowed
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:59 PM
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No, she’s not. She’s above average looking but nowhere that high.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:00 PM
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A would have more dating success, more successful top 15% men than attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:55 PM
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The retracted study was done in 2009. This is it - > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19645027/ Multiple studies can be retracted, the image below is the top of your 3rd link and it states it was retracted and resubmitted. The link to the revised result on the retractionwatch site is to the same paper. So, in other words the risk is higher for women if she falls ill. Thank you. For only one age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:35 AM
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The first study is the same one I commented and the third link was the same data pre-retraction. In the second one, the risk is only higher for women age 50-64, 65+ there was no difference, also the risk of divorce was higher when the man had depression in the 50-64 group(the the risk for divorce and depression was higher for women age 65+).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:00 AM
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The paper had a large sample enough to make inference about the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:04 AM
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Statistically men are many tines more likely to leave their partner if she falls ill or becomes wheelchair bound. The widely cited paper on men more likely to leave ill wives was retracted and the correction found no statistically significant difference in all illness but heart disease and the difference was small: https://retractionwatch.com/2015/09/10/divorce-study-felled-by-a-coding-error-gets-a-second-chance/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:56 AM
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That was a title but you should have read the body of the post
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:42 AM
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Since far more women put far more effort into their appearance than men do, it stands to reason, then, that that attractiveness would be taken for granted It doesn't make sense for attractiveness to be taken for granted in women even if they put in more effort since they would be judged based on women. Also that the "average" women are more attractive than the "average" men because of this. I completely reject this, women have similar obesity and overweight rates as men by sex based bodyfat stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:15 AM
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Higher than I thought it was(for mothers at least)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:55 AM
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Because men overall put less effort into their appearance, which means it benefits them more when they do. Both the men and women were sorted into very attractive, attractive, average, attractive, and very unattractive categories unless you believe women in all those looks categories are closer in attractiveness than men are which I reject then that idea doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:04 AM
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Who is buying all of those parenting books then? I read a bunch of them when I was pregnant and when my daughter was young. I said most people, I didn't say no one does that. Then why don’t men develop it to the same level? The gap isn't that large in the first place and the gap that exists is likely due to some combination of socialization and sex differences
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:00 AM
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Style contributes very, very little to someone's overall looks, makeup contributes more but it still less than the main contributor which is your genetic attractiveness. Men are also valued for their looks and it actually has more of an effect on men's socioeconomic advancement than women. Most people don't actively work to be a good parent, male or female, you do pick up skills as you raise them but it isn't a thing women are actively working to build especially when majority of young women the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:30 PM
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No, I just wanted to ask it to both sexes but I can't make a Q4M
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:58 PM
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Chad is about looks not status, it means a very good looking male
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:39 AM
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Sorry about that, I hope you find someone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:14 AM
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Modern Love column No never, last time I touch a cosmo mag my brother made fun of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:12 AM
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How was it dating the men you weren't attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:53 AM
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Congratulations on the engagement
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:20 AM
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Congratulations on your marriage, was the cold approach a street approach or in a bar/event
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:16 AM
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Could someone also ask men the same question for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:44 PM
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I don't think it is that far off, it isn't the strangest thing that exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:00 PM
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Find it funny a woman like that calls herself a feminist yet according to her own account of events he does majority of the housework yet still has to do a labour intensive job btw I looked up her account and she works from home jfl.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:42 PM
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:31 PM
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Yes and that's why I choice a bigger number like 10%, although again it will likely be lower
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:16 PM
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Of all violent crime ever not just murders and sexual assault, yes and it was a high guess based on data that shows only 3.9% of the population(both men and women) is ever convicted of violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:02 PM
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Lol, I assumed you did an amateur bout
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:44 PM
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That is a low percentage, I wouldn't eat a box of chocolate if even 0.001% of them were poisoned because that would be an unnecessary risk. If I starving and had to pick the 10% then I would look signs that one is poisonous before eating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:27 PM
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All of violent crime at most 10% but likely lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:17 PM
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If he got raped, had to pay for it or just fluked it like in your case
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:52 PM
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Women find intelligence somewhat attractive but looks matter first and a less intelligent, attractive guy will beat a more intelligent, less attractive guy: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-024-00418-y?fromPaywallRec=false
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:29 PM
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Was waiting till the looks thread to post this study
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:04 PM
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Again, I think it is fine to be cautious around men, I won't criticize someone for taking personal measures to protect themselves. I just took particular note of the most men would do bad stuff if society was different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:51 PM
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Marital Strain and Psychological Distress in Same‐Sex and Different‐Sex Couples The only area where same sex couples(gay male couples mostly) did better was the marital strain and psychological distress aside from that in the dissolution rates when you compare same-sex unions(gay marriage wasn't legal when they got their data) and straight cohabitation(I'm excluding marriage because it won't be one to one), straight relationships were better(although I looked up other data and think the answer i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:46 PM
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Half of all white women voted for the orange rapist, yet no one attacks them like they do young men despite young men voting for him at similar rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:47 PM
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Every single day there is a story about a guy doing some HEINOUS shit to a woman or child (or animal, or corpse). There are also cases of women raping and abusing men, other women, children and animals, what percentage of men do you think commit any of these crimes. As for this: Second, do not pretend that most of y’all would be doing the EXACT same things your forefathers did if it was still socially acceptable. People's morality is largely influenced by their society, I can just as easily say …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:39 PM
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During the 1918-1919 influenza, the death rate for men exceeded the rate for women: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2740912/ It is also problematice to group "women and children" as if children doesn't include male children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:22 PM
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Women on average notice personality, competence and dynamics alongside appearance from the beginning. This isn't true looks are also the most important factor for female attraction to men: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236183331_The_Predictive_Validity_of_Ideal_Partner_Preferences_A_Review_and_Meta-Analysis If you don't meet a woman's requirement for physical attractiveness she won't consider the other factors: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-024-00418-y?fromPaywallRe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:14 PM
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I have question, if you've ever had a significant other do you think they are the most intelligent person because beauty is just another physical metric like intelligent to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:40 PM
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If they do then they are delusional and can't think objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:27 PM
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What sub is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:53 PM
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How tall are you and how attractive is your face?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:53 PM
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Both of these things improve how attractive they are according to you. I assume by that you mean face and height sure, some people improve far more than their teenage years would indicate but everyone else would grow so your relative looks level would remain the same. One thing that I would concede though was that it was wrong of me to cite the teenager data in the place of the adult data since it won't be 1 to 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:47 AM
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Most of these either not specific to women (abortion, paid maternal leave, subsidized childcare.) Abortion is a women's issue unless you count trans men, paid maternal leave and subsidized childcare are supported by the left largely because they make work easier for women. Or it's not policy, a private individual or a company creating a scholarship for women, is technically female specific affirmative action, but it's not government related, it's private equity. The government is the reason why …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:25 AM
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He said only one was overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:37 AM
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That's fine
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:34 AM
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There is a new paper of female use of GLP-1s like ozempic and their correlation to marriage/cohabitation rates rise and employment: https://hu-my.sharepoint.com/personal/rdiamond_fas_harvard_edu/_layouts/15/onedrive.aspx?id=%2Fpersonal%2Frdiamond%5Ffas%5Fharvard%5Fedu%2FDocuments%2FCombined%5FGLP1%5FLabor%2Epdf&parent=%2Fpersonal%2Frdiamond%5Ffas%5Fharvard%5Fedu%2FDocuments&ga=1 TLDR: Single women who took GLP-1s increased their marriage/cohabitation rates and also their employment rates if they…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:32 AM
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To some degree sure but they aren't supported by the left for those reasons, they are supported because they help women. I'm not saying any of those things are bad just that people on the left do support women's issues specifically and pander to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:21 AM
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How does the left pander to us as women? The political left is viscerally misogynistic btw. Why would my political ideology be connected to my gender? The left supports female interest from abortion, female specific affirmative action, gender based quotas in business, paid maternal leave, and subsidized childcare all of these thing are largely pushed because they specifically help women and not because of any broader anti-capitalist or pro socialist views. I mean, if the left would suddenly also…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:19 AM
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it says 44% didn't have any romantic relationships during THEIR TEENAGE YEARS. Yes and dating in your teenage years is largely reflective of dating success as an adult, I posted it because there wasn't any data on dating as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:40 PM
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44% of GenZ men have never been on a date with a woman, even if all those men are sub-5s it would still include some average looking men: https://aibm.org/commentary/gen-zs-romance-gap-why-nearly-half-of-young-men-arent-dating/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:13 PM
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I never said they are, what I said is that if you want to change those most important factors you will most likely need to have plastic surgery. It matters especially more if you are deficient in those areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:46 PM
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The manosphere exists as a response to modern dating problems and the different parts of it are based on the varying responses to those problems, the redpill says you should become more masculine i.e. hold frame, gym, and game, MGTOW says you should give up on women and the blackpill/lookism says it is largely genetic mainly physical attractiveness but also neurotypicality. I think it is fine for a man to go to therapy and those men's sheds if they help in with his mental health but they won't g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:36 PM
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Your facial attractiveness is the most important in attracting a woman, the next is your height both of which are largely immutable unless you are obese in the case of the former or undergo plastic surgery in the case of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:28 PM
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Yeah but they both seem to be fine with it and maybe she is trying to lose weigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:12 AM
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The mods have their favoured people
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:04 AM
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No, it is because she is morbidly obese and also unattractive(likely due to her obese) while he is fit and slightly above average looking. It doesn't matter because that is his relationship but there is a huge range of looks between a woman who is a giga stacey i.e 8+ vs a woman like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:03 AM
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Most of the men there are positive, 馬鹿
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:51 AM
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I assuming by personality you mean charisma since you said he is an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:41 AM
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Absolute state of jestermaxxers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:39 AM
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Just ditch casual sex at scale, starting with the men who have the hardest time getting it. Casual sex causes the "dick is cheap" paradox because too many men are pursuing it with too few women who want casual sex at all, much less with him. Casual sex is grossly distorting the supply and demand curve. It's also damaging men's and women mentally by revving up dopamine loops and de-sensitizing the brain to oxytocin in women and vasopressin in men, which are neurochemicals directly responsible for…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:26 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:27 AM
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Women do this regularly on dating apps, he is likely isn't as interested in her because he has options and he expects her to impress him. She was also the one who messaged him first.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:23 AM
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I mean stuff like not being able to tell social cues that the woman doesn't want to talk or socialize with you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:22 AM
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Change from unfunny, uncharismatic, or unconfident to funny, charismatic and confident
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:47 AM
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I think all those stuff are good and would develop you as a person but how would you them be able to express them in social settings, if you have trouble socializing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:43 AM
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I don't look like a lesbian Lesbians have a certain stereotyped look
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:28 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ecqWzwKLa4
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:18 AM
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Yes but the point is that women still do care about the d size
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:15 AM
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There it is right there. Men think most women n, when in reality it’s the clit play that does it for them. Except women(straight ones at least) still do care about penetration, if they didn't why would there be a penis size preferred and why would it be in the 98th percentile for length and 65th percentile for girth: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0133079
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:58 AM
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Not really in the case of the ugly guy it is that she finds he too unappealing to have sex with him and for the female clients she isn't at all attracted to women. Most women can't have sex with men they don't find attractive so they don't do escorting, the ones that can do it do the job. I am not saying all female sex workers are under favourable conditions but they entered the job as their choice and if they didn't then that is sex trafficking/sex slavery. Some straight men also do enter sex w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:35 PM
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Reverse the genders: Imagine female sex workers refusing to have sex with clients because they weren't attracted to them. They can, they can refuse a client for any reason and female sex worker do routinely refuse female clients because they are straight: https://www.tiktok.com/@lucyhuxleyxxx/video/7357305233833233696?q=lucyhuxleyxxx%20women&t=1781640322079 Female sex workers routinely have to sleep with obese, smelly and/or ugly men whom they aren't attracted to. Yeah and that is their choice, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:10 PM
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Different circumstances, he did it to prevent excess deaths and was a mercenary leader while I am just a normie
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:11 AM
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Fake this is from his recent stream one day ago <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:35 AM
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It's fine, I was just wondering why
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:31 AM
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That is infinitely more tolerable but the level of money for me to ever consider even conventional sex work with women is going to be a lot, so this would require even more money. That said I have a question why are you trying to convince me otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:10 AM
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Okay you actual got a laugh out of me with the second paragraph but no those to things aren't the same just like having sex with a woman isn't the same as with a man since you're already sticking your penis in a hole. Who said you have to enjoy it? It’s for money, we do many things for money we don’t find pleasurable I personally have never done a job I didn't find somewhat tolerable and there are far more tolerable things than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:48 AM
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No, I'm not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:54 AM
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Jesus, this white house card was the best birthday present ever. How did Gaethje do it? I knew he was going to fight Ilia's hardest fight but this is amazing, Justin Gaethje has done it. Islam mogs both though. Edit: Just realized Arman put 1 mil on Gaethje, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:06 AM
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I do think Clavicular has feminine affects and personality traits and there is some inherently feminine aspects to looksmaxxing if it becomes obsessive but I don't think it matters to most women if they find you attractive. Women know about Clavicular's makeup use but they don't bring it up till he inevitably says something to offend them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:22 PM
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Where did you get this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:46 PM
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The average male can't looksmax much unless he is obese or really underweight but if you are talking about women knowing his routine and thinking he is less masculine for it all that matters is how attractive you are. If you became a Chad through looksmaxxing then she won't care but the less attractive you are the more it matters for masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:44 PM
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Oh okay
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:19 AM
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What else did you think it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:58 AM
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Why? Isn't that just marriage in arabic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:53 AM
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Brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:12 PM
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I also won't feel anything either although it has never happened
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:59 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:45 PM
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What’s the saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:42 PM
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Wow, that’s interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:42 PM
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No, I'm not on the apps the last time I tried I got one match on bumble and she wanted to be friends. I am also not talking to women IRL or on reddit(do people actually date on reddit?). I wanted to get back on hinge but I don't feel too comfortable putting myself out there, I am doing self-improvement/looksmaxxing right now to improve my dating options and also for quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:45 PM
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I agree that why my position on this is that couples should talk to each other and compromise on the less important stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:22 PM
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I'm talking about single people, it is lower in the article: Similarly, among all single people without children, women do nearly twice as much household work as men, spending 9.7 hours per week on household tasks compared to 5 hours for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:20 PM
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That isn’t why, it is just because women have a different standard of tidiness than men. When men and women are single and have no children, women do twice as much house work than men. The most likely answer is there is something that bothers her about the house that doesn’t bother him and it isn’t as if he expects her to do it, he expects no one to do it because that thing doesn’t matter to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:04 PM
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Ya know guns exist right? Our 17x higher muscle mass (or whatever) doesn't do us much good against a bullet. It's 1.57 times greater muscle mass for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:29 AM
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Feminism is advocacy for women, it only incidentally happened to promote equality because of the lower socioeconomic status of women. If you look at the early first wave feminist causes none of them said anything about the injustices that men faced in their time such as universal draft/mandatory militia service or the fact that sexual offences like rape could only be committed by men. They even introduce a new injustice in the form of the tender years doctrine for custody as opposed to a decisio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:23 AM
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I actually checked and it turns out it is true leering is a crime in UK
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:16 PM
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I was just wondering because of the arranged marriage, do your parents accept your no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:52 PM
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Street harassment is what is ban in the UK, don't think leering is street harassment even per UK standards. I'm not saying you can't control how you look you can but I just don't think it is harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:52 PM
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Yeah but leering isn't approaching. I would say you can't stop it unless you are a genuinely ugly woman or old because it is a sign of sexual interest and most men are interested in most women sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:42 PM
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It is better and positive in that case and I do think it is different from “relationship material" not in terms of content since most people have children with those they are in a relationship with but in terms of wording.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:39 PM
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That isn't approaching though? If all they did is look at you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:33 PM
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JFL your husband hit you with the it just so happens
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:16 PM
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Most likely the first one because people generally think that individuals with that level of disability cannot consent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:12 PM
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She said the best night ever is the hookup guy so it would still be suboptimal
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:11 PM
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Do you live in a developing country?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:09 PM
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I said the vast maority of violent crime is done by men, not the majority of men, but by men. If you know this then how is it at all relevant to bring up this" "The evidence is that the vast majority of violent crime is done by men" in response to me saying you have no evidence aside from personal experience to support this: "Most women are decent pleasant people. Whilst a lot of men are just an accident waiting to happen"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:39 PM
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Okay I understand that you might not understand how statistics work but the vast majority of violent crime is done by men doesn't mean that most men commit violent crime. Only 3.91% of the population commits a violent crime even assume 100%(actual percentage is 10.8%) of them are men you only get 7.82% of men ever committing a violent crime: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:34 PM
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Thats the difference imo. Most women are decent pleasant people. Whilst a lot of men are just an accident waiting to happen The only evidence you use to support this claim is personal experience and nothing else, in fact this whole post is personal experience and likely spurred on by some personal grievance or the other. If most men were as you claim " just an accident waiting to happen" then society would not be able to properly function. What percentage of men do you truly believe even have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:11 PM
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This isn't a debunk of what I said that being said I looked for evidence against my position and found that marriage rate for both men and women have fallen since 1970 to 2011 with it being worse the less those men and women making. The only group that marriage rates increase for was the 100th percentile group. It should be noticed that this isn't the percentage of those people that are married: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-marriage-gap-the-impact-of-economic-and-technological-change-o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:07 PM
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Both men and women would ideally want this and would also ideally want their partner to be the most desirable person to themselves. The difference is a lot of men recognize at some point that they would have to lower their standards and they are not the most attractive person to their female partner unless those men are very desirable and can leverage their desirability to get their ideal partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:41 AM
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I would pick the former but I would pick the second scenario if it was that vs no women having interest in me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:41 AM
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It's the guy who posts here every once in a while that women that women are all secretly lesbians, it isn't a mainstream blackpill belief and most blackpillers would call it c*pe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:41 PM
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You know you can be college educated and make less money right? College educated women of all income brackets for example were approximately twice as likely to have gotten married in the past year when you compare between income brackets. Accounting for college education there is only a 0 and 1% difference for poorest and average women in the college educated and non-college educated respectively, for the richest and poorest women it is a 2% gap in both the college educated and non-college educa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:29 PM
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That is the worst possible way to read what I said because I don't believe all men settle, I think that the more attractive a man is the less he is likely to go down in looks. It is just that if you include all men including the least attractive men you will find enough men who are attracted to all groups of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:03 PM
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I can just as easily say that it is more blackpilling that women find a man so repulsive that they wouldn't want anything to do with him. Realistically most people don't have access to mates the find very attractive and will have to settle women included.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:01 PM
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What were the ethnic demographics of the university?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:50 PM
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How do you know men actually find those women unattractive? It is also possible they just find them to be attractive enough to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:49 PM
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Men do not want ugly women. Men do not want poor women. Men do not want old women. Men do not want disabled women. Men do not want women with kids. The list goes on. Not true for ugly and poor women if you are talking about men as a group, because women's looks have no impact on their chances of finding a relationship and the poorest and richest women have similar marriage rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:41 PM
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It was a sample of 135 women and 76 men, it reduced to 69 because that was the single women in the first study. The second is what the rest applies to and you're right it wasn't casual explicitly it was dating apps in general I made an error in applying it to casual dating. As for the journal h-index, 46 is only an insanely low h-index for more multidisciplinary journals at least from what I have seen because for social sciences it was average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:33 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/ep3vxs8qnv5h1.png?width=1036&format=png&auto=webp&s=481feb751574fb4639330debf1e595af71978c10 This is a table from the first study I posted the correlation between attractiveness(mate value here) and interest in casual sex for women is r=.47, that is a good moderate correlation, that is a major factor. Dating apps also show the same thing physical attractiveness outweighs the other factors for women and men: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S24519588240021…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:29 PM
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Rich people(obesity correlates with poverty) are just far less likely to have kids and have less kids than poor people when they do reproduce at least till you reach a certain point in terms of wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:12 PM
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Based on his looks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:06 PM
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Yes but there is going to be a barrier for sexual attraction to that man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:44 PM
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Then why do they do it because sex in this context is purely carnal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:28 PM
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Why did you post these charts? I have an idea about your argument but I actually what to read it before I respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:06 PM
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I doubt it because women as a group have higher standards on looks for both relationships and casual sex while men as a group seem to have no standards at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:00 PM
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I plan on doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:46 AM
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I'm actually going to defend women here but no not necessarily. If you were a good woman and you know you didn't cheat on your spouse it can feel like a slap in the face for him to imply you cheat on and are literally cucking him. I personally can't imagine not getting a DNA test unless the kid really looks like me or someone in my family just because I have trust issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:02 AM
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Why do you say it is pretty easy then what evidence beyond personal experience do you have because unattractive men were 15-17 points less likely to find a relationship than attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:29 AM
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There is actual data on this and being unattractive as a male reduces your chances of entering a relationship but it doesn't do so for women, looks are also shown to be the most important factor for both men and women in terms of mate selection. Just because you can find average or ugly men with women doesn't disprove this just like a 6' man from East Timor doesn't disprove men from there being 5'3" tall on average
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:03 AM
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That's the problem, you can't know if that woman likes or even tolerates a man approaching her in such environment and she can react really negatively because of it if you aren't that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:59 PM
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the 2025 Antioch High School shooting If you actually read that guy's manifesto you won't say he was motivated by misogyny. He was a schizoid who was motivated by misanthropy, he idolized white supremacist shooters despite being black and had a racialized hatred for his own race, most of his manifesto was also copy pasted from the Christchurch shooter. Misogynistic Extremist Communities Appear to Outnumber Misandrist Extremist Communities (in scale and harm) The reason why misogynistic extremist…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:52 PM
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Women regularly say online that they go to bars and clubs to have fun and not get approached by men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:38 PM
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In the middle east maybe but it is the exact opposite in the west, men have been shown to vicim blame and ascribe pleasure to male victims of women less than women in 2019, women have actually gotten worse in their attitudes towards male victims of women since 1984 while men have gotten significantly better: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34978934/#:~:text=Judgments%20by%20male%20participants%20of,with%205.8%25%20in%202019
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:39 PM
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A few years back, I gave in and had a contractor install a full on dungeon in my house. How many women demand that stuff from you? That seems like a niche sexual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:24 PM
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There is evidence that women's pain is taken less seriously although funnily enough men also tend to underreport pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:19 PM
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Women say men are entitled for wanting most of those things that you listed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:14 PM
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Tbf he was wh*te
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:34 PM
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He's talking about maximum physical attraction, people generally don't have access to their maximum ideal of a partner unless they are very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:33 PM
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The problem with this post is that the face is what matters the most, then height, then ethnicity, then the age, every other thing like frame(not muscularity frame) is supplemental, gymmaxxing and building muscle will have minimal gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:31 PM
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Sure. But “women sometimes receive a hiring preference in STEM today” isn’t the same thing as “women were never disadvantaged.” It was a 2:1 bias for all but one of the evaluator groups studies, both male and female, that is more than the bias in the 2012 study which only found an ~1.2 bias for men. I didn't dispute the rest including the competence evaluations because I already saw the evidence for them. The reason why I disputed that specific point is because this is a clear bias for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 03:16 PM
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Studies have found that identical or near-identical résumés can be evaluated more favourably when perceived as belonging to a man rather than a woman. Do you have the studies for this because at least in STEM it is the exact opposite if qualifications are equal women are more likely to be called for interviews in STEM jobs: https://economics.yale.edu/sites/default/files/marley_finley.senior_essay.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4611984/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:46 PM
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Your first Q4M got deleted really fast, last time I posted an internal question it took at least 30 minutes to get deleted. I personally do not get turned on by dominance or submissiveness, I only get turned on by women's bodies, women doing sexual things with me or the idea of women doing sexual things with me. I also find most BDSM to be really cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:47 AM
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You can't say that because when you read those articles the framing portrays those men and boys as controlling for talking to a non-sentient beings but doesn't say the same about women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:35 PM
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It is just the women are wonderful effect again. Men are evil demons while women are perfect angels who can do no wrong, so they will find a way to make anything men do to be a threat to society even if women are doing the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:28 PM
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Okay, I was just confused about that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:05 PM
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Male survivors I've encountered tell me that they were taught that marriage = sex on demand in response. I don't get this, do you mean that their wives raped/coerced them into sex because of those ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:54 PM
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Why would you ask this question knowing no one here would say yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:21 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:26 PM
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Is this RDR2?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:24 PM
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They weren't sex workers, I can't post the incel guy because I would have to link to the forum but the russian guy was just asking out normie women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMXEs5sfXJA It uses ai dubbing so it sounds weird
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:51 PM
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They had sex with them without expecting money or a relationship in most cases, that is those women seeing those foreign men as more attractive is it not? I’m not joking in those video he literally goes up to random African women and asks them to come to his house with the implication that it is for sex only and they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:49 PM
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She likes her own men better Depending on the case I doubt it, there was a Russian guy who went to Kenya and Ghana and found it to be stupidly easy because he is a mzungu there. He recorded these women during the cold approach so we know he didn't pay them in the vast majority of cases, even in the cases where they did ask for money, they only asked for like 20 dollars. There is another case of a guy on the incels forum who went to south east asian and had several hookups there even got a few wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:00 PM
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Well because he is likely of European descent which is seen as more attractive in a lot of ethnic countries. There is also the height difference since westerners are taller than people in developing countries so he would be more attractive on that front as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:33 PM
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Short and unattractive women still reproduce and they will pass down these traits to their son even in a society where female selection was uninhibited. Also even if people became more attractive and taller, the standards for men would just rise to adjust to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:29 PM
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Those women are typically aware of/exploit the social taboo against men hitting women. They are just violent toxic women who use the female privilege in this case because like in your original situation she knows other men will defend her if she gets attacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:35 AM
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Looks aren't the only thing but the primary thing other stuff can still come into play but it is the first barrier.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:32 PM
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Q4W: What are the paper towels for? https://x.com/dyingscribe/status/2061922159497183524?s=20
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:31 PM
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That isn't why those people typically don't want to date single moms, it is because of the presence of another man's child
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:31 PM
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Not really looks are already the primary filter so those women already had some physical attraction to you maybe the funny picture made them have more interest than some other guy they found attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:12 PM
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I think those women were already physically attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:06 PM
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Okay, I was thinking about making her laugh before she selected you like something funny in your bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:05 PM
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How would making her laugh be the best strategy if you already said that attraction is the first filter
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:36 PM
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How do they contradict? Women already aren't as physically attracted to as men are to women irl so they reject majority of men in dating app which already have a bad male to female ratio and of the remaining small percentage of men they find physically attractive some of them want to hookup, are incompatible and/or are creepy. The attractive men also get to have high standards since they are a hot commodity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:30 PM
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She did bring up prison: It’s a big concern for men when it has to be, aka in prison
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:57 PM
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How was I talking shit about women? All I did was bring up the stats. There also was something that promoted it which is saying that rape because a big concern for men in prison
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:51 PM
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I'm not trying to make it a competition. When some people(not saying that person is one of those people) bring up male prison rape or generally men raping other men, they bring it up as a point to say that men are so violent and degenerate that they rape other men despite not being sexually attracted to men. I brought up the stats because one it just is true that female inmates rape other female inmates more often but also as a counter to that thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:35 PM
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Women rape each other in prison more than men do to each other at a rate of 2x as much: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2438589/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:58 PM
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I assume you’re of European descent so it is likely just because that phenotype is rarer there than in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:10 PM
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It depends on why you do it. If you see that men of you "type" basically your ethnic makeup are more attractive in those countries or you see that the women in those countries demand less in terms of dating then I think it is fine to move there. If you are doing it to exploit poor people like old men who typically go to SEA or the old women who go to Gambia then I think it is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:17 PM
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That's really strange, what was the reason it bothered her
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:23 AM
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She complains her male partner doesn't watch porn
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:18 AM
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You can have fantasies without porn
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:16 AM
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The horde just means 3 to 5 and htn is 5.5 to 6
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:06 PM
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You think that data from when you were 6 is still completely accurate when it surveyed people before swipe apps existed, But it’s also more difficult now that swipe apps exist? Do you just not understand the english language, I said that it is fine to cite this data but if(the operative word in both my responses to you) the data is out of date then it would be worse based on what we know about dating apps and greater socioeconomic equality between the sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:04 PM
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HTN means high tier normie 5.5 to 6, you migh find the top two groups boring but the vast majority of women will find them to be the most attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:51 PM
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What do you think he should be?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:51 PM
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Didn't answer my question. It is 6 years old for me. The point of saying that people over 35 don't understand the dating market is that stuff like dating apps have made dating more difficult because of the higher looks demands from women. Like I said if there was an effect looks would be more important for men to be selected by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:46 PM
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Yeah, that means it is more correlated for women as in for women men's looks was more of an influence in their selection but it wasn't statistically significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:43 PM
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This isn't the slam dunk you think it is, you actually have to explain why you think the data would be irrelevant, social science data wrt relationships and dating are cited from even before that paper. If anything I would argue that looks have become more important for men considering that women are gaining more in the workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:14 PM
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It’s not statistically different so it is pretty much the same
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:03 PM
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most are women they would pump and dump since they aren’t attractive enough for relationships. Looks don't have any correlation in the chances of a woman finding a relationship but they do for men, so a lot of these men might actually be just casting a wide net and dating the less attractive women if the others don't respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:32 PM
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It matters because unless you are going to be like a 7+/10 male then women will just see you as a threat from the get go.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:30 PM
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Yeah mate can you point out the part that data looks are the most important for women? <image> The correlation's are between the different factors studied looks, money and personality. It is on page 253, page 7 it you are using a pdf reader
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:29 PM
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Yeah but you are dating women as a woman not as a man, the dynamics would be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:06 PM
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This isn't true, for both men and women when it comes to actual selection not just stated preferences looks are the most important factor: https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/eli-finkel/documents/EastwickFinkel2008_JPSP.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:05 PM
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Women will still have to contend with a harsher looks barrier and different dynamics so I don't think they would have an advantage, I think they would actually be at a disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:50 PM
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Why do you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:48 PM
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How does this work? Do they become male versions of themselves with stats adjusted for sex change or do they become average?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:19 PM
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Yes but they are a far tinier percentage of the population than people(a lot of women and blue pillers) say
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:57 PM
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He was better looking when he was younger but he has aged well
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:00 PM
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That woman was average looking but I do agree that morphs are not 1 to 1
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:00 PM
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Slavic countries have higher rates of poverty and more tradition views on relationships, so it makes sense that the man will be able to provide(read pay) his way into getting a more attractive woman. As for the effect of male attractiveness on success we have data showing that being less attractive as a male reduces your chances of entering a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 01:10 PM
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Do you have a criteria? You can’t just say it is obvious because you might mistake siblings or friends for a couple. My personal criteria is if they hold hands, kiss or anything like that
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:20 PM
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The problem with this post is that when men get a raise or just win the lottery they are more likely to start a family and have kids and lowers their divorce rate but when women get money their marriage and fertility is unaffected but their divorce rate goes up. So while we can't test for looks since there is no study for this, we can use wealth as a proxy and it isn't true men do want families and kids more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:29 AM
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I saw an incredible amount neckbeard-type guys walking around with cute girlfriends who totally "mogged" them imo How could you tell they were dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:20 AM
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Which ones? I do think Gosling and Pratt should be htn, I also think tobey should be in the horde(I think he is mtn). I think the rest are fine which chadlites do you think should be htns and which htns do you think should be lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:28 PM
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Could you explain why?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:06 PM
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Do you actually think Wolf of Wall street Leo is as attractive as when he was in Titanic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:05 PM
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I think Cavill isn't in the unmoggable tier because of his widow's peak and his nose, obviously he is still a Chad imo. I do think Gosling should be htn though, rehab himself even rated him a 6.5 but chadlite for him was 7 to 6.5
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:00 PM
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And why are some of these photos 30+ years old???? Probably because that is those men's peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:52 PM
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What do you guys think about rehab room's male looks scale, I personally think it is mostly correct though that pic of Patterson doesn't do him justice <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:50 PM
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Thanks, she derserves the 8
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:44 PM
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Booktok training irl: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Tra7W7yKPvE
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:37 PM
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Yeah, I saw she's really attractive, do you have a link to the 8?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:32 PM
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There have been societies that propped the male form up as more desirable like the ancient Greeks I mentioned Why do think the ancient Greeks thought men were more desirable? I ask because my perception from what I have read is that men and women could both embody beauty in different ways. An example of female beauty being appreciated cultural by them is the story of Phryne's trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:29 PM
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Workers in a sweat shop are an example of non-sexual objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:17 PM
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Do you think women being pinned as the beautiful and sexually desirable ones as a cultural default helps matters? I think it has no effect because they only reason it emerged is that men are more attracted to women than the reverse. I just don't think if society tries to psyop women into seeing men as more beautiful and desirable that it would actually have an effect. Do you think we would arrive exactly where we are in regards to attitudes towards this is we restarted society on a blank slate b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:56 PM
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The objectification of women is part of why male victims of assault are often treated differently. Objectification means reduce a person to an object, it doesn't make any sense that you say female predator aren't treated as harshly due to objectification. It is just because women are see as less of a threat than men are, even if those women were being seen as nurturing or motherly that still won't be objectification
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:45 PM
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No, it exists because it exists because it has become more difficult to enter a relationship/having sex with a woman as a man. Men are sexually attracted to women and want to be in a relationship/having sex with women so they look for solutions and form ideas on how to advance towards that goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:41 PM
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Men describing their ideal partner look wise is way more outrageous than when women do it. How?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:33 PM
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We've had this argument before but graduate status or level of educational attainment isn't affected by the woman's looks, you actually need to bring up evidence that what you are saying is true instead of telling just so stories
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:50 PM
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This is a dumb take, women's looks have no effect on their chances of finding a relationship and incel men have been shown to have lower looks standards. But instead of posting actual evidence you post braindead tiktoks instead as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:30 PM
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If you didn't mean men are more likely to be unwilling to change why did you make your post gender specific instead of gender neutral why do you use guys throughout your post as a general term to refer to men? You don't need to explicitly say something for it be expressed implicitly in your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:34 PM
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Yes, I am saying that both aren't good evidence and that you need better evidence, they only reason I brought up those places and the screenshot was a counter to using incel forums as evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:28 PM
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No, I am saying personal experience isn't good evidence especially on here since if a man were to use his own personal experience that would be shot down as anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:23 PM
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Again, I'm sorry this isn't evidence. Aside from the fact that most people on incel forums aren't unwilling to change, why do you think looksmaxxing is even a thing, you can easily go on femcelgrippysockjail, trueuglywomen and see women talking about how they would never lose weight or looksmax because ugly men get attractive women and they don't have to improve their looks according to them. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:22 PM
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“You should take me as I am or FUCK OFF!” It’s just there’s a lot of men who don’t like giving up on dating altogether. For some reason, guys have believed that wanting a woman to take you as you are isn’t being picky or filtering when it actually is. Do you have any actual evidence about men being unwilling to change to get women aside from anecdotes? Because I have a wealth of anecdotes that shows the exact opposite. I acknowledge severe birth effects would make it hard for dating. Are you wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:13 PM
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Party due to giving birth to fetuses with short life expectancy, that otherwise would have been aborted. Do you have any evidence of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:49 PM
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Governments around the world are already offering financial incentives, childcare subsidies, tax breaks, and housing support to encourage family formation, yet birth rates remain stubbornly low. Those policies are already failing all of the countries that implemented them either didn't see any effect or saw small reversals during the initial period of implementing these policies before falling again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:34 PM
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So you think men aren't treating other men or women like people?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:03 PM
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But if men’s baseline for treating other men is worse, then men are treating women like people, it would just be a different problem that men treat people badly(which I don’t believe).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:47 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:33 PM
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This is just because men as a group(not individual men) just have a far lower looks bar for women than women have for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:01 AM
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In this case, she says she is not old or overweight(although I would have liked to see what she considers overweight) so it could truly be her face but a lot of them are likely overweight and don't want to lose weight or looksmax because jfl "ugly men don't have to do that they get beautiful women" <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:00 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:43 AM
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I think I would. I don't have any out of the ordinary kinks or demands during sex and I also do try and make the escort have an orgasm so I assume it would be similar to normal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:06 PM
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I've paid for sex before and I have masturbated before I can remember how both felt and the sex felt better
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:27 PM
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That's insane, is he attractive facially?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:57 PM
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You're AFAB and I think asexual? I would say most men are difference and do find sex better or prostitution won't exist like it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:57 PM
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>Why do they need sex? Because sex feels infinitely better than masturbating
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:30 PM
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With other 70 year old women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:01 PM
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If you actually believed this then you wouldn't have said the judges photo was edited and then switched to Clavicular's license pics looking like shit. As for the idea that your opinion is more valid than mine, that is nonsense for the simple fact that one can determine who has better facial structure the same way a woman can tell which woman has better facial structure. If this wasn't true then the halo and horns effects won't work on people of the same sex but it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:51 PM
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We have his mugshot and he looks way better: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Clavicular_mugshot_March_2026.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:28 PM
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That is literally his photo from his judicial details: https://www.jud11.flcourts.org/Judge-Details?judgeid=2165&sectionid=346
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:21 PM
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He doesn't, this is what he looks like: https://www.jud11.flcourts.org/judges_pic/Bach%20ArmasMarcus2165.jpg?1779909491052
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:18 PM
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Sure but you were making an argument that all characters should be race swapped to Ugandans when only a small group of people the Ethiopians even somewhat resemble them in the Odyssey
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:56 PM
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WASPs are genetically closer to Greeks than any one from subsaharan Africa
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:33 PM
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>ugly women get betabuxxed and used for sex in relationships and men don't treat them as good as they would stacy. Except this likely isn’t true because if you read that study you will see that the educational attainment of their partner is unaffected. >for example autistic and disabled women are more 3x more likely to be abused than NT women This happens more to autistic and disabled people not just autistic women, autistic and disabled men are also more likely than the general population of me…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:56 AM
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I can’t speak to other stuff but I can say that in terms of looks men as a group do not have as high standards as women as a group. I know this because women’s looks have no effect on them finding a partner but men’s looks do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:17 AM
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Yeah I expected it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:17 PM
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23 so it is close <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:59 PM
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I don't agree with hoemath on a lot of things but he cooked when he made this <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:34 PM
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This is false, looks are the most important factor for both sexes, followed by personality, then wealth. Women's looks have no effect on her chances of finding a partner, it also doesn't affect the level of educational attainment of that partner but it does affect all those things for men. If all these women did have a range of tastes then you would looks not to have an effect for men but it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:33 PM
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Who’s those people?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:10 PM
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He said feminism not all women so he likely just means feminists as a group
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:22 AM
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Can you expound?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:07 PM
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I don't really care why a person values me provided that the love they feel is genuine
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:30 PM
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It was a face rating not about the clothes and what you wear generally factors very little into how attractive other people find you. As for the idea that "most men try less than most women to look decent", what is your evidence for this that isn't just anecdotes? More women are overweight than men by body fat percentage(not by much but it is still more than men), the healthy range for men and women are 12-20% and 20-30% respectively(note that the most attractive range would be lower and closer …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:08 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:30 PM
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Poor looks in a woman doesn't reduce her chances of finding a partner and it doesn't affect the socioeconomic status of the partner but it does reduce a man's chances of finding a partner: https://reis.cis.es/index.php/reis/article/view/826/1056 I'm not saying all men are desperate but this shows that yeah men as a group are quite desperate at least wrt looks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:44 AM
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N-count is also a poor marker of sluttiness if you ask me. It is actually a really good one considering that the more partners you have(male or female) the less satisfied you will be in a marriage and the higher the risk of infidelity. Obviously this doesn't apply to all high n-count people but the risks are there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:46 PM
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I don't think you should block someone for that I am just saying why someone might be inclined to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:10 AM
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Why is you friend vegetarian
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:57 AM
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Being vegetarian or vegan(especially vegan) is most of the time a moral choice, the person is likely going to try and get you to change your eating habits which most people don't want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:42 AM
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Women say this as well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:41 AM
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Men and women care about looks and personality at equal rates: https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/eli-finkel/documents/EastwickFinkel2008_JPSP.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:33 AM
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She already covered safety, care and decency so those parts and things in that realm don’t factor in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:14 AM
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That ask for money upfront because that is their job and the guy can decide not to pay after
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:38 PM
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Women aren’t that physically attracted to the vast majority of men so not much would change
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:37 PM
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Then those people won't be incels
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:51 PM
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I know that is my position as well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:02 PM
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Mainly my looks but to a lesser degree my socialization skills. I am solving the socialization skills by unironically currently being in therapy while for my looks I don't have the money for my plastic surgery but I am saving up for it. I am also cutting bodyfat, I'm not fat and am somewhat muscular but I am not at 10-12% yet(lean is law).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:59 PM
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This is false, poor looks in men reduces their relationship outcomes but it doesn't do so for women. If men's standards were high for relationships you won't see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:35 PM
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The rest of my comment still matters
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:23 PM
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Rehab Room's male lookscale has just dropped
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:22 PM
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You didn't but what is the point of commenting this if you don't think it is common to say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:18 PM
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No one says it makes men more moral in most cases
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:13 PM
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What did you say before she unmatched you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:50 PM
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Why did she unmatch you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:46 PM
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It's true though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:59 PM
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The mog never stops
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:42 PM
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Unless the photo is bad that the person's beauty is obscured it doesn't matter much
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:34 PM
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This implies that either sex cares much about photogenic photos and not just if that person is physically attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:03 PM
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Jfl, the study is called where are all the good men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:01 PM
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All 9 female Jurors voted to acquit Weinstein but all 3 male Jurors voted guilty: https://x.com/mtracey/status/2057647933080662276?s=20
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:14 AM
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Why does this matter? Like what exactly do you want to gleam from women’s views on male pornography habits? Actual question
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:13 PM
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You talk to your friends about their pornography habits?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:10 PM
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That is just the opinion of one man. I for one don't want to be playfully groped in public by anyone even an attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:00 AM
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I don't think that's good, as in I think the workers should be treated well if you decide to let them in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:44 AM
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The Africans are likely just going to be used the same way south asians are used in Dubai as an underclass labourer population so it's not like they are being replaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:31 AM
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I strongly disagree, that stuff is just virtue signalling by women. The vast majority of the romance novels written for women have tall and attractive chads, there is also the fact that poor looks in women doesn't reduce chances of finding a relationship but it does in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:39 AM
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I agree that the second lady(Eva) is better looking than Sydney Sweeney but I think it is by a noticeable degree I think Eva is an 8 while Sydney is a 6(face is only counted here). I asked because I think the original lady and Sydney are comparable wrt the face but I think Eva is better looking than both.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 07:19 PM
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Okay what do you rate Sydney Sweeney and this woman https://www.instagram.com/p/DXEmD3qCJ3_/?hl=en as?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:26 PM
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What do you think she is?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:56 PM
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What’s crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:39 PM
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No he is below like a 4
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:39 PM
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That guy is above average like a 6.5
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:20 PM
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She has heavy makeup on so I would have to see her without it or with less to judge. He is average looking and a preliminary assessment of her with makeup puts her at a 7/10. As for your question of monkey branching, I’ll ask a question before I answer. Do you think it would be reasonable for a man to date a woman more attractive than his current partner when he comes into money? Edit: On second assessment she is lower like a 6/10
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:20 PM
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I just saw my female housemate in her bra, later virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 03:19 PM
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Because I am aware the world is not all about me and I would like connections with those people. And I am aware in order to have them I need to control my egotistical urge to believe everything about me is the right way to be and my comfort is the only thing which is important. And that some sacrifice is necessary to get along. Where would that be necessary though aside from the case I brought up outside of that you can just choose not to associate with that person instead of putting up a false …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 02:38 PM
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Do you think women are more likely to at least pretend to get along - YES Why would you pretend to get along with someone outside of a business context where that person has power over you Also Do you think most women put more effort into their appearance than their male counterpart - YES Do you think most women put more thought into their connections with friends, families, and romantic partners - YES No to the former considering that women are fatter than men based on ideal bodyfat percentages…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:55 PM
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James Sapphire is a perfect example of what happens if you are a PSL tard that ignores facial harmony and appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:06 PM
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Option A, who cares what others think
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:42 AM
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I like Casca and find her attractive, I'm thinking of changing it to Elric of Melnibone
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 04:55 AM
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I got banned for two days, the ban has passed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 04:42 AM
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I personally think 2 and below should be reserved for people with legitimate facial deformities that person is just ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 03:05 AM
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Got banned for posting this on the daily thread but thoughts: https://x.com/Aella_Girl/status/2055700685099090410?s=20
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 03:04 AM
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Do you mean they won't get partners in sugar dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 02:46 AM
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There has been a lot of evidence since the 80s that, in the US at least, most domestic violence is reciprocal, so yeah I believe it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:34 PM
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Thoughts?: https://x.com/Aella_Girl/status/2055700685099090410?s=20
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:18 PM
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They're mma fighters
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:13 PM
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What’s the percentage on women you would have sex with? 65% What percentage of women would you be willing to date? 40% Once the looks minimum is reached what about her personality or character would make you not want to date her? I don't want to date a woman who is really older than me. I am 23 and the oldest age I would date is 40, I also don't want to be around and abusive, annoying or bigoted
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:10 PM
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She's a lifestyle 2.5, she could look better if she lost weight
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:02 PM
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Daily reminder that looks have the biggest impact on your dating outcome: https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/eli-finkel/documents/EastwickFinkel2008_JPSP.pdf Poor looks in men reduces their dating outcomes but it doesn't do so for women: https://reis.cis.es/index.php/reis/article/view/826/1056 Looks in men also has far more positive outcomes in the workplace than for women: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ssqu.13320
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:29 PM
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Why don't you cycle off?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:07 PM
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That's alot
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:05 PM
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I think 3.5s there are fine, at least to me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:04 PM
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If there is a deliberate effort to restrict it then I would say so, if not then it is just that they have a bad sexual partner or maybe they just couldn’t enjoy it for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:02 AM
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That’s the idealized scenario. I’ll also answer your other question here: >So if someone isn’t being pleased, they’re submissive ? No not necessarily, in that scenario the point is the complete restriction of that person’s pleasure, that’s what makes it submissive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:45 PM
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Yeah but that doesn’t necessarily make it submissive, you do it for a partner and then they reciprocate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:40 PM
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If you’re just normally using them on a partner it is fine but I’ve seen some BDSM stuff on 4chan where the guy’s penis is in a cage and he is only allowed to use dildos on her. I know it is hyper specific but that was what I was thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:23 PM
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No but it depends
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:12 PM
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No, why would it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:12 PM
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No for cunniligus and yes for cucking
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:08 PM
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Never watch it, I've only ever watched Dragon ball, Hellsing and Berserk abridged
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:03 PM
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What show is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:27 PM
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I’m assuming this is a relationship that starts off being dead bedrooms, if so, the answers is no. That sounds like a really good, close friendship except they have more time for you since they aren’t in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:31 PM
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The relationship waiting for you as an oofy doofy: https://np.reddit.com/r/lnkyverse/comments/1talknt/perspective_majority_of_the_time_theirs_a_hidden/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:38 AM
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Question for people in the UK, how is Kemi Badenoch received by both the general population and the more conservative people?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:35 AM
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Yeah and that's my position women are going to harsh about looks this is why men have a harder time finding women and also why bi women will find male partners to be easier than female ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:56 PM
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But most incels have a baseline as well. They just think theirs is more valid than women’s because women are the only ones who should be settling. Incels popularized the term looksmatch because they were literally uninterested in the women swiping on them or giving them any attention because they were too ugly or fat. Women just have 10x these amount of “options”. The problem with this is that unattractive women have options for relationships while unattractive men do not. It isn't a matter of o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:34 PM
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You should really read the study, but tldr: Being unattractive reduced the probability of mating for males by between 15 and 17 points, depending on the models used, when compared to the more attractive group, and 10 points compared to those with an average attractiveness level (see Table 1). There was a statistically significant difference between the most attractive group and the normal group in favour of the former in the more complete model, which included education level, age and social cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:24 PM
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No, even for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:19 PM
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Do you know any ugly girls? Depends on what you mean ugly, for me to call someone ugly as opposed to unattractive they have to be at most a 2 on the truerateme scale. I don't know any woman like that but I do know women who are a 3.5 and obese who do regularly date. I don't expect an unattractive and below woman to get the same amount of men as an average looking but she will still get men, if she opens a dating app or even puts herself out there long enough. I have this opinion because of the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:11 PM
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The problem is that even that day ugly girl has men pining for her, so there is no guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:34 PM
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Being unattractive doesn’t reduce a woman’s chances of finding a relationship so those fat girls likely have suitors to chose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:30 PM
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I don't have any data on men dating specifically overweight women but I do have on unattractive women, I think you would agree that men would rate overweight women as less attractive, and a woman's looks don't affect her chances of finding a relationship but men's looks do(the second half of the paper is a spanish translation so it isn't actually 43 pages long).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:46 AM
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Obviously if your personality actual sucks you should improve it, the problem is just when people assume that the personality is the problem when the guy brings up his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:39 AM
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It is though and it show been shown in studies
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:33 AM
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If they just said looks aren't everything that would be fine but that is coupled with saying personality matters more to women which isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:31 AM
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I think for them it is more likely looks don't matter for men while men care about women's looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:26 AM
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His looks, the most important dating factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:58 PM
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The problem with this is that even in cases where the man doesn't say anything misogynistic or entitled, he still gets told that his dating struggles are due to some personality failing as opposed to the more likely reason that he just isn't physically attractive to women. Even with the insecurity point, a man who talks about how much height matters and that women pass him over for being short will get labelled as insecure despite there being evidence to show that he is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:57 PM
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He's talking about women as a group, that if women weren't interested in him when he was younger and more attractive(generally), why would dating be better when he is older and less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:42 PM
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It's possible the guy left her or she broke up with him for other reasons. I do agree that aside from the morality of pressuring someone to do something, it will mess with your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:32 PM
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He probably would not be happy but he would be happier than in the case where he compares himself to the other guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:07 PM
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The reason why is typically because they assume that she did that with the previous guy because she was actually into him more than her current guy. Like I said earlier it could be for other reasons but the default assuming for these guys is that she isn't as attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:02 PM
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Won't you agree though that wanting those things is a different desire from relationships and sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:42 PM
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I never said that but I just noticed I wrote did instead of didn't so that is why you might have gotten that idea. You obviously shouldn't do anything you don't like whether you have or haven't tried it before with a previous partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:26 PM
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Yeah, it does most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:23 PM
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It depends I wanted to add at the end that if you want to use that as a gauge of whether she likes you or not it should have other more concrete proofs just because other reasons might exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:21 PM
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Sorry that happened to you. I do agree though that most of the time it happens is because the other person didn't like the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:19 PM
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The problem with this is that there are tons of guys who have fulfilling lives and do see themselves as complete people but still yearn for a relationship and sex because there is a part of their physical selves which desires those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:42 AM
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The reason the guy cares is because he wants that treatment and/or sex act, but the woman doesn't want to do it with him. However, she did it with the ex, so he wonders why not with him. That is why it matters. Obviously, there could be a myriad of reasons for this, none of which could be related to the guy she's currently seeing vs her ex, that being said it also could be so that is the reason why it matters to those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:37 AM
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What do you think it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:23 AM
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Why do you use that analogy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:13 AM
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Most men have lived without relationship and sex with women at some point in their life so they can judge whether it did or didn't make them happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:57 AM
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Oofy doofy is a specific thing not just a man in a relationship, it means an average looking or slightly below average guy who is chosen(read settled) typically after the woman didn't get her first choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:33 AM
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The problem with this is that your average male on a macroscale has no reason to change. He will still get a gf/wife and even if he is a disrespected oofy doofy, he will still think at least I have sex and a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:00 AM
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How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:11 AM
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I never said that you can help does countries in other ways like helping with infrastructure planning to reduce the effects of climate change on the health of the population, helping to set up more efficient water system or promoting family planning in those countries. I'm not saying western countries shouldn't reduce their population but that if it is going to happen it should ideal be controlled and planned.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:56 AM
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Sure, it is not that fault and it is understandable that people would want to migrate(legally or otherwise) but people in more developed countries don't have to let them in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:36 AM
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My point is that the people living in those countries are the ones who have to worry about overpopulation. As for climate change, it is already over tbh, could get worse but it is already over, those countries are already becoming less habitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:22 AM
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Developed countries aren't overpopulated only less developed ones are that way. A population reducing isn't 100% bad if it is controlled but in developed countries the population falling is uncontrolled and will lead to negative impacts for the economy particularly for older people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:16 AM
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If she isn't an unfit mother then 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:44 PM
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Why did you assume this he never even so much as alluded to harming women be it physically or indirectly by taking their rights away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:16 PM
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She was a sugar baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:03 AM
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I know, I posted the news article and it is still up by 32% for them and 12.5% for all ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:39 PM
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It's across the US: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/date-flation-hits-hard-average-110000882.html
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:25 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:12 PM
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I can't speak to the degree to which the average woman uses either language to refer to sex since most of my reference for this is female comedians, female musicians, women on social media and female podcasts like call her daddy but my point was that women also do describe sex that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:41 PM
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Women of PPD what do you rate this male <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:46 PM
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While I understand what you are talking about, the terms you brought up are not describing sex as an act of humiliation or violence done to a woman and women also describe sex in these terms. You say: Its always "I fucked her" instead of "We fucked together". And it is true people don't say that but they do say "we banged", "we screwed", "we smashed" and even "we fucked". The reason why men are typically the subject for these verbs describing sex is for two reasons: historically(and even today) …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:35 PM
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This is what normies are watching while they make fun of you for watching fanservice anime.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:12 PM
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She said no no no as self talk wrt if she's pregnant
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:58 AM
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That’s being said why is bro having unprotected sex with her? It feels like he’s trying to baby trap her. How is he trying to baby trap when she is presumably consenting to the unprotected sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:39 AM
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Okay then, I already plan on paying for dates if I ever get one just to increase my chances of secure a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 11:39 PM
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Do you mean she is in the top 10% of women or she is 10% of a Stacy because the latter doesn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 11:23 PM
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I think that is just an uncomfortable smile
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 11:04 PM
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I want a woman who loves me like I love her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:47 PM
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I think he just feels uncomfortable around gay men that's why he smiled.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:46 PM
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Those women are living in third world countries so they don't have access to taller men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:38 AM
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Oh sorry, this might upset you but that was its poop.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:26 PM
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Yes, assuming I wasn't a child. I live in a first world country so I would expect it to be investigated well and for the guy to go to prison(this applies to rape specifically). For other stuff like groping then I won't unless it is an acquaintance and there are witnesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:21 PM
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How? What happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:12 PM
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The men she has hitting on her, pursuing a relationship with her or as her orbiter. I am also not chasing Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:21 PM
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The problem is that since all women have men pining after them even the ones that aren't narcissistic or extremely popular with guys expect it since they have choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:56 AM
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Making a clown out of yourself to impress her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:29 AM
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Even a woman who is more compatible with you will still want you to do jestermaxxed stuff to impress her unless you are a guy that is at least a 7 in looks just because she has so many options for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:14 AM
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This won't matter since women would only approach the attractive men and the other men would be too horny to make it work since women already weren't going to approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:08 AM
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What is the cultural context here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:52 AM
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I am in university right now so I can speak on this and the lean ones would be considered attractive by most men, they aren't actual stacies or even staceylites but most men would put them in that tier
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:30 AM
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Rehab room's new video is brilliant as usual, he mostly covered the female plastic surgery industry. He also correctly points out that being low bodyfat and young is enough to be attractive for 90% of women. Even the lookism community over rates women but are brutally harsh wrt rating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:09 AM
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90k in student loans debt isn't small though it is more than the national average, it isn't too bad of an ask since according to her he pays the rent and the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:47 AM
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Most sexual assaults where male or female happen from acquaintances, then partners, it is only a minority of cases that it happens from strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:44 AM
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When I hear this braindead level takes from from boomers like Ramsey I understand why their divorce rates are so high: https://x.com/yonann/status/2052403833536475499?s=20
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:08 AM
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Why lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:27 PM
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If they are actually looking for poor women in those countries, then yes. If they just went to a country because it would be easier due to some combination of their ethnic traits being seen as more attractive or because the women don't desire as much more to be satisfied due to lower cost of living, then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:31 PM
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That's taking advantage of someone in a bad situation, that's why it isn't moral behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:23 PM
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Men are more likely to be sexually assaulted by women than by a man and even more likely to be raped by one when you include made to penetrate: https://www.cdc.gov/nisvs/documentation/nisvsReportonSexualViolence.pdf I not saying it is as bad for men but this line: "unless you’re talking what men do to each other" is just incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:21 PM
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Yet more women get plastic surgery, which you consider work then men. This is because most plastic surgeries are for personal fulfilment or medically necessarily rather than to improve dating options. If you wanted to have sex with any woman you could walk up to a homeless encampment and trade sex for beer. So what work do you do, that women dont? I could but I don't consider that to be moral behaviour, you likely see it the same way. It's not about whether or not women do this as well but do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:17 PM
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You consider butt implants to be real work? Yes, although I don't think they are effective. Who will do the work on your plastic surgery? Why is you getting this work? It is the doctor. I consider it work because I would have to do work to get the money for the surgery, go through the recovery and any potential risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:59 PM
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I'm not saying looks is correlated with personality, I think they are unrelated. I was just making a comparison between a morally upstanding less attractive male and a less moral attractive male. I do agree that looks doesn't 100% lead to wanting a relationship with someone for several reasons but it is a strong determinant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:38 PM
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Because women even the ones on here claim it is all about personality, that while looks matter personality are the decider but it is the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:31 PM
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Great to see you too, man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:16 PM
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This week not much because I don't have the money for my plastic surgeries but I unironically go to therapy for my social skills, gymcelling and I buy/use expensive skincare products to help with my facial blemishes. Btw I should clarify I only consider the plastic surgery to be real work since it is the most effective one
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:59 PM
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Nurse or doctor?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:51 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:51 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:51 AM
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No, I'm unattractive which is why I never get the dates, unattractive men don't even get past the selection stage. Only men she considers worth it because they are really attractive, attractive enough to date and see if they impress her in some more ways or only attractive enough for a free meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:10 AM
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No the opposite the before, the selection process, is not as easy as the date
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:55 AM
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Like that other guy said if you can make it to the date and she has genuine interest(i.e she doesn't just want to use you as a free meal) then it is easier than the date itself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:36 AM
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No, the point is that looks(particularly your genetic baseline) are king and that it can trump even negative personality and that having positive attributes that don't involve your appearance will most of the time never beat out an excellent face. Also, some men did straight up make that complaint like they couldn’t understand why a hot guy would get sexual attention, even though he’s a convict, even though they can understand being attracted to a beautiful woman, even if they knew something bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:35 AM
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If dating is work, you shouldn't date. The work isn't centred around the dates themselves but what you have to do to get the date and/or not get suboptimal treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:02 AM
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That isn't the point though. It isn't that people are complaining about not getting exceptional attention, it is exceptional attention vs no attention even if you are a more morally upstanding person than him and/or have done the work(improved your finances, personality and even your looks).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:00 AM
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The reason why people bring up Meeks isn't about getting exception results but about how much looks can take you even when you are a criminal vs how much you have to work as a sub-5/unattractive male. Also what is exceptional here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:22 AM
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Yes, if it is just a rejection. You also said she did me the dirtiest so that is assuming more than rejection, it depends on what she did, like if she tried to kill then I wouldn't but if she like stole a lot of money from me I would help but I won't feel particularly good about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:50 PM
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She’s had two boyfriends but she isn’t dating anyone right now, I have had no girlfriend. I’ve never ask her experiences being approached or anything like that so idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:25 PM
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Yes, most of the guy who get caught are looking for the cheapest girls available so they go for girls who don't screen and who charge low rates for more services. Police generally use both of those tactics in ads to get the most amount of guys responding to ads.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 11:53 AM
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You can't travel all the time if you want it to be a regular thing, it could have easily avoided by just doing basic research and not going for the cheapest girl you see online
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 11:29 AM
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Sub-5s getting caught trying to escortmax but tbh it is kind of his fault for cheaping out and not doing his research: https://x.com/AmericanCrime01/status/2051345048185323976?s=20
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:43 AM
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I don't think so because even Whatifalthist was like Adin Ross who is famous and sociable he won't ever have Laci Green's body count unless he pay for women directly or indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:51 AM
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The guy on the left(Whatifalthist) claims he has a good friend circle but he doesn't have any where near the status of Laci Green.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:24 AM
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Okay that's actually a good exception
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:15 AM
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Why would she being a blogger affect it? Because of status/being known?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:14 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:43 AM
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You have to at least be somewhat attracted to someone to want to fuck them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:42 AM
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I(and Ubersoy) posted it to mean just sex/the y-chromosome but yes, the fact that men are more attracted to women makes the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:20 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:07 AM
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Yeah those women like kpop idols but kpop idols have conventionally attractive features not as much as Cavill but the a lot of them are htn(6/10) with a few even higher, there is also the multiplier they get due to status. Even then I would say prime Cavill from Tristan and Isolde would pull more women than them if the status was gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:57 AM
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Depends on what you are talking about, if it is style then sure but I don't think style factors much compared to basic physical feature such as facial harmony, symmetry and dimorphic traits. By conventionally attractive, I mean a man with a face like Prime Cavill or a woman like Eva Vlaardingerbroek or Madison Beer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:23 AM
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The behaviours and attractions of LGBT people can't necessarily be projected towards straight people or even each other. Even among gay people/lesbians, I would guess that the more "conventionally attractive" people do the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:31 AM
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Transmaxxing is a meme. The few sub-5s/incels who actually transition were already feeling those feelings from before, this is similar to the one incel forgot his name who went gay(rehab room touched on this in a video of his)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:03 AM
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Enough people of can easily kill a gorilla barehanded. It doesn’t even need to be that many assuming they work as a unit and are not physically infirmed just 20 at most
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:51 AM
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This is a strange question(it is also going to get removed because it is men to men)but do you mean how many women at once or what percentage of the female population? If it is the former and it is just normie women with no strength training or no combat training then I think I can comfortably beat two of them, past that then it would be a matter of if they can work together. If you mean percentage wise then I would say 99.9%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:48 AM
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Not really, there has been plenty of asexual species that thrive well and have perfected the "code" of their genes. This isn't a matter of opinion, it is just factually true that no mammal exist on earth and that only a few vertebrates are capable of it. You could argue that sexual species help with faster baby production because bigger babys require more energy and resources, but then again even that possibly can be changed, maybe we can finally start laying eggs again since resources at the cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:37 AM
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parthenogenesis No mammal on earth is known to be capable of parthenogenesis and only 80 vertebrate species(the vast majority of them non-avian reptiles) have been documented being able to do so even then it isn't their preferred mode of reproduction because it is inferior to sexual reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:28 AM
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I assume this is a troll post but I'll respond seriously. Being trans isn't a choice in this vast majority of cases and "becoming a woman" for those men would be a false identity and cause them dysphoria since they aren't real transwomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:47 AM
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Surprised no one has commented about his profile name yet
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:19 AM
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Those are also good expressions of love
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 01:51 AM
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Strong feelings of care and warmth towards someone along with a desire to do what you believe is in that person's best interests. It is expressed in wanting to do what is in the best interests of the object of your love even if it makes you or that person unhappy in the short term and also just wanting to be around that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 11:55 PM
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Sure he wasn’t as big as them but I would say that he is in that realm though just below. The reason I was surprised is because my sister who doesn’t watch sports knows who he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:50 AM
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Really? You don’t like basketball or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:32 AM
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She’s not a Stacey but come on she not average looking, she’s around that htb(6 to 6.5/10) level from just the face. Body halo adds to her looks and she is in the 7 range for most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:10 AM
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Average looking
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:05 PM
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What do you mean by sexually aroused by women? I have never looked and a man or woman and become sexually aroused. I mostly meant with regards to sexual encounters but it also applies to seeing people you're attracted to in daily life. I asked because I am only attracted to women and I have being aroused by them in both scenario though less of the latter after I became an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:30 AM
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Yeah but you’re doing it to him without his consent and it’s not medically necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 11:25 PM
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Don’t off yourself because of lack of dating success. I’m not going to sugar coat it as a 5’3 man dating will be brutal and you might never find love if you aren’t at least a 6.5 but you should at least try and even if that doesn’t work just find ways to cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 10:58 PM
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Not attracted to men but why would you circumcise your son?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 10:55 PM
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Wait, pardon me asking mind me asking but does you get sexually aroused by women as well and is it just the mechanics of sex with women you don’t like?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 09:24 PM
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It’s extermination not genocide according to international law
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 08:05 PM
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They get the neonatal fibroblasts from the tissue in the foreskin. It is used because they secrete more collagen and elastin which people belief that rubbing on their skin will cause a reversal in aging due to skin sagging and wrinkles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 06:50 PM
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Circumcision doesn’t exist in the US because of Kellogg. It is a thing because of medical studies at the time showed it reduces the rate of STI transmission(namely syphilis). Circumcision has been reducing in the US has been decreasing though and I’m not sure how much of an effect the beauty industry would have in driving rates of circumcision
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 06:47 PM
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Davidson is 6'3 and is rumoured to have a large phallus
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:14 AM
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I’m just wishing hard working men be safe Stuff like this and the earlier sentence came off as sarcasm to me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 03:17 AM
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Is this sarcasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:55 AM
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The wretched state of oofy doofy marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:47 AM
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Last album I cared about
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:45 AM
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Wait this place is in the documentary
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:44 AM
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Sure there is some minor overlap wrt tradition roles particularly when you get to the Myron Gaines style redpill but in the end the redpill is about modern dating including premarital sex. Realistic people like Myron, Rollo and the rest would be killed by the government of Iran for half the stuff they say and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 11:25 PM
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The men who do those stuff around the world aren't motivated by the redpill and only a very small amount like 7 around the world are motivated by the blackpill(wrt the incel mass attacks). The post is about the extremist positions by the people in those communities and while I would admit that it is more prevalent amongst incel communities that either feminist or redpill ones, it is still the fringes even in those places
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 11:03 PM
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Can't believe you responded to your own argument, although this is a higher IQ argument
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:43 PM
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There are feminists on twitter calling for men to be enslaved and male children to be aborted/culled.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:42 PM
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and it's threats of violence, which of were there were plenty by the dude. His statements won't count as a "true threat" under the law and that is likely why they released him. For it to be illegal he had to indicate an actual imminent intent to cause harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:35 PM
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It's possible that those particular girls were just using you for a meal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:25 PM
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How are you sure you are a 7/10? Did you also pay for the dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:59 PM
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it proves it's all in struggling males heads. No, it shows some guys are larping as inkwells. most inkies who did go on to commit murders and shooting said the same thing, arresting these guys would set an example to not say hateful things on social media so that the real deranged who will commit such acts get weeded since they're too mentally ill to know not to post before doing the crime. Not really, it will just push people to more extreme sites but aside from that people are allowed freedom …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:56 PM
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I tried to explain that my looks was the problem about why I have never gotten a gf but she just said I was handsome and I should try talking to girls. I just tell her I am focusing on my studies these days and she leaves me alone about it, although I haven't seen her in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:25 PM
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How old were her boyfriends? Did they eventually find out?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:45 PM
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I don't care about it much anymore and I have already accepted it. I just feel sad about it like once a year, it especially get annoying when my mom pesters me about it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:42 PM
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Both of them mog me to hell and back but claim to be incels. I don't support what either of them said but I don't think they should have arrested him for that: https://x.com/FR0STY_333/status/2047906898410705249?s=20 Apparently he is out of prison and still fedposting, what a dumbass
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:34 PM
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You posted this in the N-count thread as well but sure I want to hear about it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:55 PM
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This is what I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:29 PM
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Why is your clubhouse being male only not enough, why do you need to have the "no girls allowed" sign over the door? Because if a women does join which do rules do allow(if there are any), it can ruin the space for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:19 PM
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Why is a space that is male only in practice not sufficient for you? Because it isn't truly a male only space if women are allowed to join and there can be several reasons why someone wants a male only space: they just feel more comfortable among men, they might have trauma from being abused by women or they might just want a space where they can enjoy the friendly company of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:02 PM
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It isn't just a label though since women can be allowed to join. It would be one thing if women are also just refused admission even if they don't explicitly say so but it seems like those places you are mentioning would allow women if they wanted to join.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:55 PM
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No, the group just isn't male only. You can say the membership consists of only men but it cannot be male only because the membership isn't restricted to solely men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:51 PM
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since having them by practice is not enough for some reason. Well, it's not male only if women could theoretically join even if they don't join much or at all in practice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:35 PM
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Aren't you catholic?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:31 PM
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I thought this would be stuff like abuse or being pushy in bed, I can see how most of these stuff happen except the skid marks that will always be a meme to me in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:28 PM
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I would choose A just because of the risk of B cheating but the more partners you have(male or female) the less satisfied you will be in a marriage and it also increases risk of infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:20 PM
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I benefit from shitty guys by just doing what I thought was normal. Come to find out that it isn’t that common, so naturally I’d get praised for it. Can you give an example of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:37 PM
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A few days ago you put up a post about not being able to get a woman so I have to ask a question. If dating is so easy and it is just a matter of socialization, learning hobbies and approaching more women, why didn’t it work for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:58 PM
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3rd
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:13 AM
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Were you wearing make up
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:50 AM
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Are you trying to speed run a ban?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:08 AM
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You should have a the caveat about if -10 gives a partner below 18, it just defaults to 18
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:26 PM
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It is likely due to your looks. I haven't seen your face but you're pretty skinny and also short, you can fix the former easily by gymmaxxing, except unironically this time and it would improve your looks. I also looked through your post history and saw you met a woman on a dating app and that's more than can be said for me so I would just stick to mostly that if it actually works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:04 PM
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5'8" and my ideal it depends. I would date a woman up to 8" above me so 6'4" and I am also fine with up to 8" below me 5'0.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:37 PM
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The only people who say this are sub-5s, I'm sorry bro <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:37 PM
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why do these posts always have these guys in them Because the attraction imbalance that typically exists between men and women is even worse in cases like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:33 PM
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That is obvious bait
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:50 PM
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Brutal oofy doofy L
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:46 PM
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Yes, they're different
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:42 PM
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Meanwhile, a man who dated someone for a few months is getting an overwhelming level of hate for dating said woman’s friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:41 PM
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"woman throwing chair at reality show" https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/taylor-frankie-paul-seen-attacking-ex-boyfriend-chair-newly-released-v-rcna264351 "Twitch streamer cheats on partner" https://sg.news.yahoo.com/whats-going-sykkuno-cheating-drama-183643600.html
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:35 PM
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Yeah I realized that after the Sydney Sweeney dog gif
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:05 PM
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I'm not. The study shows looks don't affect women's chances of entering a relationship but it does for men which shows that men are more attracted to women for relationships than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:51 PM
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you have a study that vaguely confirms your justifications for why men can't get laid and you're calling it evidence. This isn't about men being able to have sex or not, it is about male preferences and standards for women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:43 PM
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I really don't give a shit about studies when men freak the fuck out when a slightly over weight women makes a joke. I don't know what you're talking about wrt "slightly over weight women makes a joke" or why that would matter when we are talking about male preferences and whether or not they are less restrictive than women's preferences. Your second sentence though is just an admission that you aren't someone who listens to evidence or reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:33 PM
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There are studies that show looks matters more in men wrt find a partner: https://reis.cis.es/index.php/reis/article/view/826/1056 Men are also less restrictive wrt height preferences: https://www.gertstulp.com/pdf/Stulp%20et%20al%202013_Anim%20Behav_The%20height%20of%20choosiness.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:20 PM
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But just one person. Very likely more than one but even if it was one that is still one more person than her male looks equivalent I'm talking about multiple men liking certain women, having tastes in common. Yes certain women would do better among men than other women but men as a group find more women attractive than women do for men and individual men have less restrictive looks standards and find more women and varieties of women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:15 PM
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Even if it was just about settling down with someone you still have to find them attractive enough for that, this isn't like hookups where you just need a warm body to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:19 PM
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Anyway, i disagree because i know women's "hear me outs", and there are fucking lizard aliens. Unless you believe women are experiencing zoophilia those "here me outs" are not actual expressions of sexual attraction in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:11 PM
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That wasn't the point he was making though, the point was that men have a wider range of preferences so there would be far more men that find a certain woman's looks attractive than if she was a man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:09 PM
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Men also tend to go for certain types of women over others. This might be true but it doesn't matter in practice since poor looks doesn't affect women's chances of finding a partner nor does it affect the socioeconomic status of the partner but it does for men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:07 PM
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You can have your face rated on a by someone of the same sex even if that person is not attracted to the same sex provided that they rate based on generally agreed upon points that make a man or woman attractive like on truerateme or with some looksmax youtubers like wheat waffles
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:04 PM
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Bigonial width is actually a thing though and having a suboptimal one is going to reduce your attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:02 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:02 AM
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She was saying that as a Stacey(female equivalent of a Chad), she was being hated on by other women and fawned over by men due to her looks, she also did some pro-sex work stuff likely to eventually funnel guys to her OF
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:26 AM
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Then no that won't happen at least not on the blackpill side. A half-black(important for the story) chick who also did OF tried to do that on the blackpill side but when she face revealed people made fun of her for her race and the fact that she wasn't as attractive as she claimed(also doing OF).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:16 AM
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First
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:10 AM
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What do you mean by redpill or blackpill e-girls? Women who think the blackpill applies to them or women who understand how the blackpill applies to men? Same kinda applies to the redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:57 AM
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You cease they fire
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:17 AM
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That's not the only reason why but there are multiple videos of that happening. The only reason I brought up the first video of it was because I'm not sure if the others(this and this) are fake considering he deleted the stream of the first(due to backlash) but the others remain so they could be fake*. There's also the video I posted of some random girl showing him her vagina or this video on the same yacht. Maybe he's paying for all these encounters with women that's a possibility but I highly …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:32 AM
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His looks improved he went from a legit sub-5 to average looking
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:58 PM
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True but how would you tell difference between those two kinds of women, especially since there is a chance the first kind of woman mind react in a disproportionately negative way
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:38 PM
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Many women literally say they don't want men to approach them in bars and clubs because they are there to have fun with their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:31 PM
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He got to see a vag? Like a guy at a strip club? That is not the same and you know it. Those women are paid to show their bodies in that place, normie women don't do that randomly even strippers don't do that outside of their work. His bad game is irrelevant because he is well above average looking, tall and rich, I also don't think it matters that he streams for money ever streamer does especially since he does low effort IRL streams.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:19 PM
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Clavy doesn’t get casual. Hes admitted the drugs make it so his dick doesn’t work. He takes cialis for it and there is at least one video of him getting head on stream, a girl literally flashed him her vagina to prove she's not trans. He very obviously is having a lot of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:00 PM
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I agree don't know why some people idolize when he did more to harm struggling/unattractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:17 PM
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Yes and it sucked, although I haven't watched it in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:25 PM
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Who's ready for a bad Gundam live action movie, honestly how could Tomino allow this <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:56 PM
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I'm a man who likes anal(including ass eating and fingering) on women and I'm really attracted to women's butts so it's a psychological turn on to interact with them sexually just like with tits. It also feels different so it's a variety thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:16 PM
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I just checked that on wikipedia, the inguinal canal penetration and wow, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:07 PM
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Nondescript shirt(sometimes long sleeved, sometimes short) and jeans. Edit: I don't have a favourite outfit, the last time I did was when I was a kid and I got a ben 10 shirt(I was really into the show).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:36 PM
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The gender balance is a surplus for men in China but I'm surprised they'll go all the way to the ME but it makes sense since it is an untapped passportbro and geomaxxing spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:07 PM
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You can read the study yourself but for women as a group the stated height preference was lower than the revealed height preference, there wasn't any variation in height standards based on the height of the woman meaning that a 6'2 woman was equally as likely as a 4'11 one to want a guy who is 9.8" taller. The thing that actually affected matches was that men also had their own standards of 2.8" shorter(although it was nowhere as strong or as rigid) so the pair-matching was most likely here at 7…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:04 PM
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What’s harsher for shorter women? Because this comment was disagreeing with the idea that shorter women have harsher standards
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:48 PM
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What country do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:45 PM
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Go to the tourist spots in your country and talk to a foreigner, bonus points if it is an old white man and you are SEA woman
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:24 PM
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From the study itself. I know and the point of the study is about revealed height preferences vs stated height preferences and it came to the conclusion that revealed height preferences for women are harsher than what they state: Female height was not significantly related to either responsiveness or pair formation(Table2,Fig.4a,c). Your anecdotes are just not good evidence when we have data on this, I can also state my anecdotes that most of the women who are even very tall(6+) are with even ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:20 PM
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Tall girls almost always have much more relaxed height preferences. This is false, height of the woman(up to 6’2) has been shown not to affect female height preferences. If he wants to pursue her for a romantic relationship he should do it but the evidence contradicts what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:51 PM
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I'm not backtracking, I never said that men date outside their preferences, in fact from the context, me responding to a comment about how men only find a small number of women attractive, it should have been clear that I was saying men don't just find a small subset of women attractive. If you are willing to marry someone then you are very likely to find them attractive enough to marry even if men/society as a whole would find them unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:44 AM
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Women or men or anyone else can have any standard they want I never said women should infact the first part of my second sentence, the quoted section, was there to preemptively answer such objections.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:56 AM
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Men only find a small number of women attractive so women should be free to also have preferences. Being unattractive as a woman doesn't reduce you chances of finding a partner but it does for men so this is false. Women or men or anyone else can have any standard they want but trying to defend it by saying men only find a small number of women attractive is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:58 AM
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Geomaxxing was a term coined by blackpillers and looksmaxxers so I am just using it how they use it and how it has worked for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:35 AM
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Wrt physical attractiveness women are at their peak at around that age but the peak of men is close to that age group as well just slightly older(23-27). The reason why geomaxxing works isn't because of money and wealth, that is passportbroing, geomaxxing is about going to countries where your ethnic traits are found more attractive like European descended men in South East Asia(other places as well but that is the most common place) or West African descended men in certain slavic countries like…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:15 AM
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He seemed the exact same as the Piers interview except he didn't have dirt on the 60 minutes interviewer to respond with like he did with Piers
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:29 AM
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He's clearly not calling them bitches as an insult for rejecting short men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:03 AM
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No, if I bring a child into this world especially a son, he will suffer from my poor looks and height, it won't be moral to bring anyone into this world under those conditions. As far as adopting I am a single man with no romantic prospects so that won't go over well in adoption applications.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:01 AM
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The vast majority of women are straight this is a shit take. They might not find majority of men to be attractive but they are still attracted to only men. There is also the fact that heterosexuality serves the social function of the continuation of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 07:21 PM
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Okay I was just asking because I was surprised that you weren’t able to do 1
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:57 PM
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Don't mind me asking but what is your height and weight
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:23 PM
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This is why you should pay for actual escorts instead of normie women, they charge less and won't sue you like this. Sharpe likely wanted no strings sex but didn't want to pay for an actual escort but a sugar baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:00 AM
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The guy in front of me in the bus is watching bp TikTok edits of PSL gods
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:42 AM
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And they can lobby to make it legal if it's that big of a deal. For this to work there would have to be political will to change it and there already is a sex workers lobby though it is on the service provider end and it is small. No politician is going to stake their career on this because it just isn’t a very pressing position, even Zohran who claim he wasn’t to decriminalize sex work in New York hasn’t done anything towards that end. Gosh, I wonder why. If you’re saying because of other men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:14 AM
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Sex isn’t a need but your prostitution argument is a bad one. Prostitution is illegal in the places where most people here live and you take a risk if do it and this is coming from a guy who does play for it sometimes. If you do see an escort and don’t do proper research on the forums you can land in prison and face the shame of being known by family, friends and coworkers as a guy who pays for sex. There is also the fact that for some paying for sex can make you feel bad about yourself if you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:57 PM
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He said most women don’t care about height which is false according to the data on this. It isn’t gaslighting to just say no woman cares about height this is a strawman of my argument, it is also gaslighting to say most women don’t care about height or to downplay how much height factors into women’s selection of men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:02 PM
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Sure and they’re wrong but the general societal narrative if a man asks about this is that women don’t care about height and what matters is confidence. People already accept men care about looks, a woman’s weight and breast size
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:49 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/askanything/comments/1qf7s03/are_there_any_women_who_dont_care_about_height/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:54 PM
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Even if this is true it doesn't matter because looks are the most important factor in irl dating as well
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:12 PM
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Even to this day if you bring up the importance of height people will gaslight you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:05 PM
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Then how come ugly women rarely if ever get hit on or shown interest ? They do get interest just that it is likely less less attractive women, studies show that woman's looks don't affect her chances of finding a partner neither do they affect partner socioeconomic status but men's looks do affect their chances
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:04 PM
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In reality, IIRC, the IRR when controlling for culture / ethnicity (since most people date intraracially) for women rating men as attractive is ~0.55, for men it's ~0.65. As you see, men are more stable in their ratings but we're talking about a minor gap. Which study has the ratings for men vs women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:01 PM
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I've always found that holding while you pee stuff to be strange
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:48 PM
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Yeah, someone said she looked like a guy and I couldn't see it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:45 PM
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Still do you have people to wait on you hand and foot for a year while you are disabled for a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:44 PM
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Q4A: This is a strange question but does this character look like a man or woman to you <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:23 PM
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Unless you have the money and people to take care of you for a year leg lengthening is a bad idea
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:18 PM
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I personally as a man would not and would prefer to take a hit in other qualities than to have no sex with her. If it was an long time relationship and she couldn't have sex because of a reason out of her control them I would stay though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:17 PM
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Can a woman here do a Q4M post for my post topic here: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1slq7xw/would_you_enter_a_relationship_your_ideal_male/ I want to get data for men as well about half of all women said yes, which is interesting for me and I want to compare for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:57 AM
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No, all the data on this contradicts you, a woman's looks don't affect her chances at a relationship or hookup. I didn't post this early because the relationship data includes marriages that formed before the rise of instagram but I don't think much has changed and the hookup data is from after.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:06 PM
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I don't particularly find them attractive but if it was a wife that bore me children and was a good mother then I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:51 PM
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Do you have any data for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:41 PM
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If you did it with the intent of arousing you or the other person then it isn't allowed. Kissing, hugging and even sleeping or showering together naked as non-sexual romantic affection is allowed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:43 PM
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I doubt it, he has just likely developed a drug problem with the influencer lifestyle he lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 11:50 AM
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Thankfully the news is that he's doing better
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 11:46 AM
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Some people online were celebrating but the good news is that according to the people around him, he is stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:28 AM
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They’re saying it GHB, I don’t know anything about drugs so I’m not sure he was dozing off in the video: https://x.com/livestreamclps/status/2044220197502918818?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:53 AM
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Clavicular just ODed on stream, he’s in the ICU right now
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:38 AM
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She actually a woman and I genuinely don’t see the resemblance to that guy <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:05 AM
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Listen your profile in pfp looks like @phobiaz from Instagram . If you look anything like that buddy.... I don’t look like my pfp, that’s just a character from a manga I like
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:39 AM
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It's just a hypothetical
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:53 AM
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No, I could not. If it was just low sex drive but she still wants sex just not as often then I could deal with that but never would be too difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:46 AM
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If that is part of your ideal scenario sure but he can't have sex with you but if not no he is ace
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:40 AM
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Anything sexual counts, so not oral, hand stuff, kink or mutual masturbation. You can masturbate by yourself with porn and/or erotica
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:39 AM
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No sex for him but just imagine that he is asexual
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:28 AM
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I'm asking out of curiosity but you will enter the relationship knowing no sex is happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:17 AM
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So you would enter the relationship knowing you can never have sex? I also wanted to add that this isn't someone you were with romantically prior to your meeting him
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:16 AM
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I doubt this but I just sent you my face pic on imgur for your rating just to check
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:02 AM
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He's a blackpill/face rating youtuber
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:47 AM
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My face is below average, I'm not completely horrible looking but it is bad enough that several people have commented on it and I was rated a 3.5/10 by wheat waffles. I also haven't socialized much since high school and I've always found people hard to relate to but it got worse after highschool.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:36 AM
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Second
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:18 PM
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StandardOrganic7630 probably
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:09 PM
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He's only done botox to my knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:11 PM
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Poor looks in women doesn't reduce their chances of a relationship or the socioeconomic status of their partner so you can't just say it is about lust, men just are willing to settle period.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:44 PM
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The right pocket seems to be his wallet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:40 PM
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You're dating as a wlw not as a straight man while there are some overlaps the dynamics aren't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:24 PM
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I guess clav is actually 6'2 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:19 PM
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Makeup won't do much though aside from hiding blemishes like acne
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:03 AM
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That study was so braindead. Told her whatever she wanted to hear No Had a friend, partner, or group of friends help you get what you want No unless they specify that force, threat of force, intoxication or blackmail was used. Had a female friend around to make the woman Feel safe and convince her No Had a female friend bring her to you No Used your money, age, status to convince her No Kept touching and kissing her Did she say no to touching and kissing prior, because in the study they didn't c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:27 AM
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Approaching women as a sub-7 in 2026, NGMI.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:20 AM
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This implies that it can change, you can't do much to improve your facial appearance outside of losing weight which won't even do much unless you are obese or borderline or you get plastic surgery and are lucky. Women also care about height and 48% of them reject a 5'8 men just for being that height without considering other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:04 AM
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They're not even someone like Angela white is only 41, milf starts at 30-35 generally
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:53 AM
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Can you explain why you think women caring about looks more proves your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:51 AM
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It is true though poor looks in men reduces their chances of finding a partner but it doesn't in women. Women also care way more than men about looks for hookups since men have literally no standards for them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:47 AM
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This has less to do with men’s understanding of female sexuality and more to do with women not being as attractive to men as men are to women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:13 AM
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Paying for it implicitly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:03 AM
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That’s not the point, if a man were to listen to what women say about this he would easily think they aren’t actually into those men and are just dating them for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:50 AM
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I literally posted a study that shows what I said is true after controlling for confounders.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:34 PM
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No one here was talking about reproductive outcomes, it was about metabolism. This is a non-response to my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:31 PM
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Yes but it only happens in your 60s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:50 PM
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He's wrong but this is also wrong factually. People's metabolism don't change much due to age till their 60s, what cause people men and women to gain weight at 30 to 40 is due to increased sedentariness compare to their 20s: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abe5017
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:40 PM
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Neither men or women get better with age if we are talking about sexual attractiveness which is what people even the RP guy although they are more likely to believe the men age like fine wine stuff. Both men and women are most attractive when they are younger although it is likely around early 20s for women and mid 20s for men but still both men and women find younger partners more physically attractive https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2416984122#:~:text=After%20a%20blind%20date%2C%20partic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:30 PM
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He's not facially attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:34 PM
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No, that is a ticket to emotional abuse and/or divorce. When you enter as a jester, you exit as a jester
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:25 PM
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Women say they don't find the vast majority attractive and that the only find 1% or even less 0.1% of men are attractive to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:26 PM
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But women also as a whole are denied our sexuality and its even a quoted myth that we don't desire men or like sex The reason why people say that is because women themselves say this regularly particularly the idea that they aren't attracted to men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:09 PM
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That is a terrible sample to use
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:03 PM
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Wow, you're saying that. If other people who are first language english speakers read this exchange, the vast majority of them who actually took the time to check the sources would agree that what I wrote is true and what you wrote was a false interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:01 PM
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Why didn't you pretend to be bi instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 05:41 PM
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It is compulsory heterosexuality not compulsive heterosexuality and it exactly means that heterosexuality isn't natural but it is forced on women. It was wrt that Adrianne Rich coined this term, she literally believed that most women weren't straight due to orientation but societal enforcement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_heterosexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 05:10 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/ru6yn3kjhsug1.png?width=2600&format=png&auto=webp&s=5c1b5ba51bd68feedcc5af20a33f130843d26b2f
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:51 PM
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Okay I'm assuming you don't understand statistics because this can only be said by someone who does not understand basic statistics. "Males’ test scores in mathematics are on average higher than those for females, whereas females on average score better than males for reading. Regarding the spread of the curves, it is narrow and highly concentrated around the mean for females compared to the relatively wider distribution of males both in mathematics and reading test scores" What the statement ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:51 PM
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Find it funny you asked if I had read it but you clearly didn't read it, this is insane No, boys perform „better“ in multiple choice but multiple is not „neutral“. This was the authors of the paper citing another paper not this one and btw in that one the boys still did better in open ended math tests than girls, it was just that the gap was smaller but that wasn't cited here you can go check the papers for yourself. That said my point in this wasn't the scope of this paper it was other papers b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:24 PM
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Yes I did, standardized tests are general gender neutral/blind such that the examiner doesn't typically know the sex of the student being graded and in both papers boys outperformed girls in mathematics This is most striking if we look at sex differences in mathematics scores across evaluation types: while the gap is clearly in favor of male students in the standardized test (d = −0.41, p < 0.001), it shrinks but is still in favor of male students in the national examination (d = −0.11, p < 0.00…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:48 AM
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Men having lower standards doesn't mean women can't stand other women. It is just that men would demand less in terms of looks and generally pedestalize/simp for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 05:13 AM
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Some men live in luxury while others starve. Is she a sugar baby or a normie woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:46 AM
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Yeah them too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:00 AM
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It's not, the reason why it happens in the anglosphere west(the christian/atheist majority countries were it happens in noticeable amounts) is due to outdated medical information from the 19th century that circumcision prevents STIs(it does but the effect is weak) and due to Jewish religious and cultural practices. Doctors advice people against it these days, the US is just slow to change since Australia, Canada and England have it at a low minority
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:51 AM
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That boys are outperformed by girls, when girls are allowed to partake is only showing that men have been proped up for ever. When the grading is gender neutral, boys perform better than girls in the maths and sciences, the only area where girls perform better is in language tests: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1041608020301151 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s12651-018-0246-8
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 11:44 PM
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Clav met some irl transmaxxers the other day: https://x.com/Kick_Champ/status/2042363676150084045
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:11 PM
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Again relying on the law to base your morals on I brought up the US and other western countries to show that if I was basing my morality based on the law then I would say the age of consent is fine at 16 based on where I live but I didn't. If you’re using semantics to say “not actually pedophilia” then yes, its child sexual abuse then. Its a weird gotcha you tried to when regardless, the label applied is still a very bad one. It isn't a gotcha, words have meaning and semantics do matter. Pedophi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 03:11 AM
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Women were just not that attracted to most men physically and looks were and still remain the most important thing in women's actual mating choices. The only reasons why there was hope for the oofy doofy(less attractive) male is that women didn't have much access to men beyond the ones in her local community and that women were forced to select for men based on earning capacity and they needed a husband to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:52 AM
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Not unless she has hirsutism due to PCOS or something of the like or she is on exogenous androgens
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:12 AM
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Conveniently where the line is drawn in the law. And Im supposed to believe thats just coincidence The most common age of consent in the US is 16(30/50 states), 9 have it at 17 and only 11 have it at 18. In fact in most of the western world, it is more likely to be at 14-15 than it is to be at 18, although the most common age is also 16. Ok child sexual abuser. If semantics is really the route youre going to go then its not going to make you look any better. I don't care about trying to "look an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:01 AM
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It is 16 in most of the US as well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:28 PM
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The majority of 17 year olds are physically indistinguishable from 18 year olds but it doesn’t matter because that isn’t pedophilia. As for younger, it becomes exponentially less likely as you go lower than 16 for boys and 15 for girls. 18 is my moral bar because by that point only an insignificant minority of men and women aren’t physically and mentally mature
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:28 PM
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The changes starts before 18, it ends by 18 for both sexes. You know the thing called puberty
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:47 PM
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An 18 year old looks nothing like a pubescent or prepubescent child
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:56 PM
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So of course, my questions are - Are women discouraged from taking on, or systemically discriminated against pursuing, higher paying jobs, such as in STEM fields? They're not in the modern era, in fact if qualifications are equal women are more likely to be hired in certain STEM jobs: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4611984/ Are women expected to take on an unfair amount of household work, which leads to them not being able to work as much as men? Never married women have a worse pay ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:05 PM
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He posted a comment in response to the OP, who did say men should fight for it. Your comment is rendered irrelevant to what Outrageous-Floor-424 said because he said nothing about acknowledging it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:37 PM
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do what we can to fight against it because it absolutely exists. This is from the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:28 PM
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Why is this thread still up have the mods just given up?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 12:59 AM
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No, I just think women are just not that into most men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:21 PM
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How do we know that the men who pick more unattractive women aren't at least somewhat attracted to them? This isn't for hookups, it is commitment so that makes it more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:15 PM
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When men have standards they dont compromise. You would never see a guy who isnt attracted to fat girls dating one. Yet women will date almost anyone- fat guys, broke guys, ugly guys, low effort guys. Women's looks have been proven not to affect their chances of getting a partner or the socioeconomic status of the partner but for men being unattractive reduces their chances of find a partner. You claim that the only time a man is dating fat women it is because he is attracted to them(I presume y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:47 AM
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PPD is incel-central. It's known that a significant portion of incels and incel adjacent people have clinical depression. The reason why incels are depressed is because they have recognized and issue in their life, lack of an romantic or sexual prospects, of which they have no clear solution. Any daily mental health thread would have to be geared towards potential solutions to inceldom like hard and soft looksmaxxing, geomaxxing, escortmaxxing, etc . I highly doubt the mods would ever allow any …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:32 AM
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I'm aware of them but like I said strangers are not equipped to talk about them, if it's a non-serious issue like oh my cat died or I have trouble making friends, then that's one thing but if it is serious like suicidal ideation, depression, etc then you need actual help.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:08 AM
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In what way name the issues/rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:36 AM
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That doesn't follow. If your mental health is so bad you need other people then go to your family and friends, if you don't even have family for any reason then go to professionals they are far better equipped than strangers online(and this is coming from someone who thinks therapy is mostly copium)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:35 AM
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I think so, he has done so much stuff that believing he can change is unrealistic, it was just so much that at a certain point you just have to give up on him
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:03 PM
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I'm not an ideological socialist, I just pointing out the contradictions in his position
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:27 PM
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I think they should have reported and disowned him aside from the CP which was so evil that it including the rape and torture of an 18 month old, he also sexually abused his own sisters. He just seems like an all around degenerate who will never change from my glance through his Wikipedia article.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:38 PM
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Socialist Supports a revisionist state like China Supports an oligarchy like Russia
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:32 PM
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A man who is shorter and/or skinner than a woman would still most likely be stronger than her
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:13 PM
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Sometimes but not often
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:09 PM
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Because people think women are special angels and men are sub-humans
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:37 AM
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Brutal, worst part is that she will likely emotionally abuse and/or divorce the oofy doofy because he isn't the man she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:45 AM
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You’re retarded
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:03 PM
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Women can do no wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:11 PM
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Very quickly if we were compatible in other ways and had being talking beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:10 PM
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I’m sorry but you are a degenerate if you keep having sex with other people after you’ve started dating another person. Particularly in this case where she said she wanted to “build slowly”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:38 PM
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Sure but they like them in a specific, fraternal way not in an erotic or romantic sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:35 PM
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Oh then I don’t know for each specific case. In her case, she had enough of a conscience to realize what she did was wrong so she told him
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:27 PM
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That’s you and not the vast majority of men who don’t want to be cheated on
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:18 PM
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Because she’s just not that into the good guy/boyfriend material and wants to keep him as a fall back option
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:18 PM
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<image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:06 PM
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It's nd men looksmaxxing for nd women who are prioritizing looks bc they won't ever have a chance with a rich successful high status man with a good personality. You might see it that way but the evidence doesn't see it that way
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:05 PM
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a quick glance at the conclusions/results NGMI. In the first study by Eastwick et al, it compares the impact of looks, positiive personality traits and money as stated/ideal preferences vs chances of forming a relationship/sex. As you can see from the table below looks were the most important factor to women and has a r=.46 correlation with mate preferences for women <image> For the second study, they find that poor looks in men reduces a man's chances of finding a partner but doesn't do so for …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:34 PM
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How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:23 PM
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Do you want to have sex with your little brother?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:18 PM
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That is allowed on Reddit but inkwell subs are banned immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 04:19 PM
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No, people just realized looks are the most important factor in dating for men: https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/eli-finkel/documents/EastwickFinkel2008_JPSP.pdf https://reis.cis.es/index.php/reis/article/view/826/1056
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:00 AM
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The guy approaching them looks wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:56 AM
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Assuming this is a joke of some kind
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:04 AM
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Only the first study(about hookups) involves women at their prime but the second study was 30-50 year olds, their age at marriage wasn't given.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:57 AM
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A woman's looks don't matter in her chances for hookups and eventual marriage so that indicates that men are attracted to most women enough that they would marry and/or have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:33 AM
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First paper: <image> Value here was rated by attractiveness of mate Second paper: Among women, physical attractiveness did not matter when it came to mating (Table 4). There were no statistically significant di-fferences between them in terms of their at-tractiveness. Level of attractiveness did mat-ter, however, depending on the social class of origin. This will be discussed later. In ge-neral, these results corroborated the first hypothesis for males, but not for women. Less attractive males w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:27 AM
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Men, too, wouldn't actually find most individuals of the opposite sex attractive. Forgot to quote it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:17 AM
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Men have no standards for hookups and for eventual marriage wrt looks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:07 AM
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It was assessed based on a group of evaluators: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-032-08035-6_12 INB4 that isn't objective. I agree that objective was the wrong word because objectivity implies independence of a mind but the general ideal is widely accepted attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:41 AM
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That sub is wild
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:55 PM
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Clavicular and other looksmaxxers do use light makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:31 PM
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Yeah it is important for women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:34 AM
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Looks are the most important factor in dating and attracting women and focus on personality is secondary to looks. Your statement about women's hobbies and goals is anecdotal, I can just as easily point out that most of the women I talk to in my college just care about TikTok or the latest slop show.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:09 AM
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If we go further back to hunter-gatherers and more primitive styles of living, we find much more equal task division with a lot more proof. The problem is that the evidence contradicts this both if contemporary hunter-gatherers are used and if you check the graves of prehistoric peoples. Only a small minority of the vast majority of pre-historic hunter-gatherer burials show women buried with weapons: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.70217 In the case of contemporary hunter-gather…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:56 PM
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Sure, I'm interested
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:29 PM
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Lesbian are interested in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:19 PM
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Why is this sub slow during weekends or holidays but it is very active on weekdays? Shouldn't it be the opposite since people have more free time on weekends and holidays
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:49 PM
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This might be prying but do the women have threesome with you or does he just watch?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:20 PM
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I didn't read the body of your post because it was too long but you made two errors in your post which only came to my attention because of someone else's comment: Plenty of women have a naturally higher testosterone than plenty of men. This isn't true. There might be small overlap in a tiny minority of cases but in a narrative review of some studies on the matter all the men had higher testosterone than all the women. Even women with PCOS(who tend to have higher testosterone than the average wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:19 PM
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However since I’ve added more pastels, florals and such to my clothing collection as well as casual dating and picking up women with a pansexual polygamist cuckquean lingerie clad tight assed lanky femboy….I’ve been doing stupid numbers Brodie. Wait, I don't get it. Do you mean you're bisexual in an open relationship with a crossdresser and you pick up women with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:53 PM
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What I am talking about is that he said gender is data i.e masculinity/femininity can be measured on a bell curve, if that is true then it won't be a social construct
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:27 PM
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The Bureau of Labour statistics: https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat22.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:25 PM
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genders are societal constructs all data (including gender, Gender is a social construct, yet you believe it is data that can be measured and produces patterns like a bell curve
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:55 PM
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Porn is fake but it still involves real women, that’s why it is more popular than hentai and other animated adult content
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:06 PM
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This is more viable but at that point why not just pay for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:05 PM
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How have you not gotten banned for trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:04 PM
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Sex robots are already here you can buy them but they are really expensive and can only perform rudimentary functions like the one in your video. It is going to take a very long while before they can do complex functions like having sex in a realistic way. This isn’t even accounting for the fact that the skin on them feels like rubber so it can’t mimic a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:24 PM
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Why does that matter wrt the alleged increase in toxicity on the sub today?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:40 PM
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The study found no clear evidence (or statistically significant data) that suggests mate preferences actually influence who people pursue as a romantic partner. This is what it says wrt stated/ideal mate preferences, I'm talking about the revealed preferences that was found by the study. The section about Mate selection versus mate retention makes it clear with context they are talking about ideal/stated mate preference <image> It showed that regardless of what the individual put on paper, even …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:57 PM
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I agree that there are some people who glamorize sex work and gloss over its risks and downsides. In terms of acceptability I guess this is just a difference in terms of work view because I think it is acceptable in the sense that people who consent to it should be allowed to do it but it should be hidden from the eyes of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:46 PM
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I agree that all the stuff I listed are to some degree detrimental to the consumer(although I don’t think sex work is as bad as the rest at least not for the consumer) but people should have the right to engage with those goods and services when they are capable of understanding the risks as adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:39 PM
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Sex work isn’t a job like most others but it still is work. I don’t think casino owner, club promoter or people involved in the alcohol or tobacco industry should be promoted to teenagers but it still is a job just not one like any other
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:26 PM
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I don’t have any friend photos so that could be an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:15 PM
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Sure tell me
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:00 PM
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Q4W: what should I put on my hinge profile, I’m just making one and I’m not sure what to do. Also why is height always visible
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:51 PM
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This is anecdotes vs data though and the data should be put above personal experience, that being said there is a study about women’s stated vs revealed preferences and while women state that they care about personality first, then money then looks but their actual revealed preferences are looks, personality then money
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:38 PM
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I edited the previous post because I posted only the Spanish paper now, the english one is up as well. That paper talks about the marriage market, which involves older people. As men and women get older dating outcomes equalize and the vast majority of men and women 80%+ get married or find relationships. If you hold to this position then you should understand that it would be even worse for younger men. This is a study of casual sex for university students(19-30, mean=22), in it the men's attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:59 PM
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If young men were willing to date women in the bottom percentiles of desirability (overweight, older), they would have less difficulty but they only try to attract women their age or younger. Men are already more willing than women to date and marry unattractive women than women are for unattractive men, being unattractive as a man reduces your chances of finding a partner but being unattractive as a woman does not
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:41 PM
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Is this a repost? As for what men bring to the table aside from the general answer that people bring different things to a relationship based on individual difference, men are still expected by society to protect and provide for a woman and men still take up that role in the majority of heterosexual relationships(less so wrt the provision)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:57 AM
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Then she only has a case for the paying for the return trip not the arrival. I never post rage bait. Really, I'm not even saying I hate it, I actually like your posting but it is clear ragebait
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:28 AM
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Hello Windmill, been a while since you posted your last ragebait. They aren't even dating, why does she assume they are going to have sex? Honestly this is just stupid, if she expects all of this from a man what is she going to do for him, INB4 sex, she is also attracted to him and wants to have sex so this doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:41 PM
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It was already dead from the video, if he gets charged it would likely be a fine
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:29 PM
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It is worse because the women still presumably want to have sex with those men, the women are still attracted to those men while for the money, the men don't want to just pay for a woman's stuff unless they have some findom fetish which is a tiny non-significant percentage of men. It would have been one thing if you said those men were putting up a false front or lying then they would be equal
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:47 PM
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The reason why blackpillers don't do that stuff anymore is that with all of the studies that prove looks and height have a strong effect on male relationship and sexual success and you still deny it then you're just obstinate. What is the point of trying to prove to people who cannot be convinced otherwise and will bring up anecdotes as evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:27 PM
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