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Question For MenJollyBowler2510/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:15 PM
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Question For MenJollyBowler2510/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:35 PM
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Damn. That’s not fair on you my friend. You deserve to be wanted for more than sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 05:38 PM
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No absolutely disclose your body count. I feel women deserve to know as much as men. If you men have been ran through, there’s no interest. Period, point blank. It also keeps us from getting std’s, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 04:28 PM
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That’s a sad ass existence to live, I hope you find peace somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 03:51 PM
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It’s them wanting to be codependent on someone. They really need therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 03:36 PM
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Also, the legacy thing is a fallacy to make men feel better, because a majority of men, especially under a certain percentage, don’t have any legacy to leave, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 03:30 PM
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That’s not on women. Change your mindset. You want kids? Go adopt. Stop expecting women to do shit for you WHO DONT WANT TO!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 03:26 PM
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😂 very true, should be my tagline on my dating app bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:53 PM
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You absolutely can leave, and a lot of people do. Congrats, sometimes you don’t find out till later that the person you married isn’t what you need. This is why I implore people to live together for at least 2 years before getting married, and to stop rushing in to marriage. Because sex and how men treat it, isn’t for most women. And I wish more women would take the time to learn a guy before jumping in to something that they don’t want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:47 PM
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Yup. I agree. If it’s only about sex for the guy, which a large amount of the time it is, I insist they go for the prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:39 PM
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It’s not always cut and dry with that, nor does it always have to be about sex. Women can struggle for all types of reasons. And just because someone has a moral of not having sex with someone they barely know doesn’t mean their low value in anything, in fact I’d argue they’re higher value. Now yeah, if someone is willing to have sex with multiple people randomly, but not willing to have sex early in the relationship, maybe that’s a bit questionable. But same goes for men. It’s why I won’t date …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:30 PM
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I don’t settle. For anything below what I have on my “checklist” per se. It helps me maintain my goals, happy lifestyle, etc. I pay attention to intention, their words and their actions. Something is off, it ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:28 PM
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“And what happens when two populations have goals that are opposed to each other? Well… only one gets what they want… usually the one that has a better grasp on violence.” Being ok with violence and saying shit like this out loud, is a threat. Toaster or psych ward, you absolute f**king psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:25 PM
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Genuinely, toaster or psych ward.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:23 PM
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Definitely will. You may want to look in to that toaster thing, especially if you’re ok with the thought process you’re having. Threatening women because they don’t want to be your personal play things is a genuine issue, one that very much might need a psych ward.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:21 PM
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Glad you agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:20 PM
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They need therapy. Genuinely. It’s a serious problem. Men genuinely think they have the right to violate women in to a relationship, marriage, etc. and you see the manipulation from the redditor above you. They’ll do anything to “not be dead,” except change in who they need to be or therapy. I implore every woman to get a gun, so fast. Because I genuinely think a vast majority of men have no morals and have lost their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:16 PM
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They are ok having sex with a woman if it’s forced, I don’t think them forcing women to give birth or be in a relationship has anything to do with their morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:14 PM
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It doesn’t make me feel anything. I think everyone as a whole has more to deal with. If men can’t find happiness outside of a relationship and what it gives them, there’s therapy for that, and I’m being genuinely serious. A lot of women, don’t even want kids nowadays, I know I don’t, so us that are staying kid free won’t help them in the long run anyways. There’s solutions men can try, if they want sex, there’s dolls, sex toys, prostitution, etc. If they want kids, there’s adoption, adopt an “he…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:12 PM
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Same with men who struggle to date are low value as partners, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:05 PM
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Yup. You hit the nail on the head. So therefore it’s equal, and everyone deals with it. Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:58 PM
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And that’s part of why relationships don’t work out. It’s never going to be cut or dry, in the entire duration of a relationship. With anything. Things change almost daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:57 PM
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You wouldn’t know the generalization about women either, because you haven’t dated all women. But anything to keep your point alive. At the end of the day, each gender has individuals who are the worst or have the most unlikable quality of that gender, in no way shape or form is it all of anyone, the sooner everyone learns that, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:53 PM
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Generally speaking, they use the “I’m a nice guy” incentive as a way to try and make women feel bad for not picking them. “But hey, I’ve never cheated, or abused a partner.” Congrats, you’re normal. You are a basic, normal, functioning human being. Thank God. Still doesn’t mean I am automatically going to be physically or sexually attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:50 PM
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It isn’t. Men just choose to generalize a whole gender, but hey, is what it is. I guess by that standard most men are cheaters and abusers too, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:47 PM
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Well if you’re monogamous and want a relationship, then that’s where compromise and communication comes in. If you only see your wife as a sex doll for your pleasure and she “should never say no,” there’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:45 PM
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If you are expecting sex every single night, without fail, yes you are treating it and asking for it as if it's a chore. If he would've stated this to begin with, at the start of the relationship, I would've told him to find someone else, however, he waited until we had moved in together, and had to see each other every day, to then consistently accuse me of not loving him or cheating, because no, I dont want to have sex with you every single day after I work, I'm not always going to feel like i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 04:02 AM
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100%. Been single for a year, and won't be dating anyone, unless I find someone worth my time. They're totally ok with lying, not having actual feelings, and stepping out of the relationship, but god forbid if she has standards that started from their actions. Majority, not all, of the reason that some women want men with money, is because men want a stay at home wife, and then when they want to leave for their secretary or what the f**k ever else, they want to leave the partner high and dry... …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 03:53 AM
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Yup. Instead of trying to have an actual relationship, and majority have already proved they're not interested in that, they just want sex and to not earn it, and think they're entitled to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 03:19 AM
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Absolutely, if all you want is sex from a woman, there is a pretty big industry right there. Or you know, sex dolls, since men love to complain so much. It kills me, because there's easy solutions, they just want women to change their preferences and standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:59 AM
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And? That wasn't the statement was it? And just because it isnt majority doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It's not majority of women either, some do, some don't. They're individuals. At the end of the day, don't be with the ones who want you for your money and you have no problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:58 AM
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I'll tell you what men tell women when they're in an abusive relationship. Those men chose those women, choose nicer women. But in all honesty, some women aren't attracted to their partners beards or hairstyles, same way some men aren't attracted to certain hair cuts. At the end of the day, it's that person's hair, beard or whatever, and the reaction will pass, or they'll break up over something stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:04 AM
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Yes of course, benefits for attractive women. Women who are unattractive, we don't get the same benefits. So we just don't try, it's better than being called ugly, or having a horrible response for even having the audacity to approach someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:01 AM
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That's anything you ever do thats worth something. There's always a risk of being rejected, that's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:58 PM
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Of course, I don't have standards for casual sex at all, because I don't do casual sex, but I do agree my friends standards for casual sex are lower than that she considers a long term investment, per se. My standards for a relationship period are way higher than most, let alone for marriage down the road, if I was to ever even do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:57 PM
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100% agree. Which Is why I tell men to enjoy being alone and don't settle. I as a woman, have my own standards, but I think everyone should have standards for their own lives and what suits them. Hold out, it's smarter and lets you have what you actually desire, instead of settling for what you have to settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:47 PM
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If you were busy, she may very well had concluded you'd be too busy to go out ever, or she got someone who showed more interest. The second one I can't really speak to, unless she was talking to someone else and found interest in them elsewhere. Truly it can come down to, they weren't interested in you as much as you were them. If you make it to first dates, women can change their minds just based on a wrong word spoken or an action you took that we didn't like. It's happened to me twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:23 PM
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I guess it depends on the shorts? I didn't know this was a serious issue. But I've never seen an issue with shorts overall. I'll tell you boat boys or yacht boys or what the hell ever they're called isnt attractive, but that has more to do with who they are and what you can tell about them than their shorts. You can just tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:06 PM
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Oh I agree, we're no longer in contact, I've been single for almost a year now, so I'm all good. Someone else can deal with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:00 PM
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Ok that's a fair point, I suppose most people aren't going to do that beforehand though, people might straight up consider you a sex addict and leave, so I guess there is that. Lol. Disagree, but everyone has their own beliefs, and that's ok. You're right, but no one is keeping a relationship, especially a happy one in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:00 PM
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I did leave, after being accused of "cheating on him" for the 567th time, I did leave. I let him think what he thought and went on my way, I've been single for about a year now, and refuse to settle for something like this again. Want sex fine, I don't have any issues with sex, whatsoever, but every damn day, unromantically asking me to fuck you, I can do without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:57 PM
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Here, I'll answer from my pov. The reason I don't approach men, is because I am not big on rejection. I don't split dates because usually when I get asked on a date, I let them know up front, hey I have no extra money to spend, and the man will offer and insist. Women don't propose to men, because it's looked at as a joke, like the poor girl who proposed at the World Cup game, that man didn't look the least bit interested or excited, and men in general don't get emotional about things like this,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:49 PM
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Yup, don't want to, don't. It's so easy and such a simple solution, that I swear they just like to argue just to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:31 PM
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Well yeah he communicated he wanted sex, and I told him when I didn't and when I did. Beats me, I guess prior trauma from other relationships? I have no idea. True, I agree a lot of humans aren't willing to do that, it's why so many relationships end. I envy not being wanted for only my body or what I can offer physically, I will gladly trade. Very fair, but it has to beat begging for it, as men try to complain happens all the time, in every relationship they have (supposedly). Them complaining …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:30 PM
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If not dating them, is "shitting on them," sure... but that's not hating on short men or poor men or socially awkward men, that's just not being attracted to them. Learn the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:16 PM
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I think you obviously live in another world friend, but like I said, go find someone to love, stop spending your time on shit you can't change and that isn't your business. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:12 PM
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It's not always an issue, from situations I have seen. Sometimes, it's the man wanting it every damn night, like it's a chore, and that is highly unromantic. My ex wanted it consistently, every single night, without fail, after I have been working all day, and if I didn't want to, I was looking elsewhere, or I "didn't love him anymore." At the end of the day, it is exhausting feeling like all men want from a woman is sex, if there isn't any other reason for you to be there, and spending time tog…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:51 PM
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I believe it's quite stupid to criticize people for shit that you dont want to do but someone else is willing to do. Especially when there is plenty of other options. Kind of juvenile if you ask me. But people like to complain, that's all there is to it. Men also like to control others' preferences, especially the low class, ugly ones who don't have more options and can't get what they THINK they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:45 PM
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I mean, I wouldn’t outright hate on him for wearing it. What men wear is their business. But I’ve been attracted to Jacob Elordi even with him wearing speedos (which generally I can’t stand), so it would probably depend on the man and how attracted I am to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:11 PM
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😂😂😂 yall already try to do that. We don’t give a damn. Everyone has a right to their standards and wants in a relationship. You not getting the girl you want, because you refuse to pay, is your business. Just like her waiting it out for someone who is willing to pay, is hers. You’re wasting you own time pal. Go be happy with someone. 🙄 but of course you’re ok with violent threats, you are a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:58 PM
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There's nothing to change. Lol. Either pay or don't. It's not killing you. Go after the women that want to split pay, and those of us that appreciate men that pay, can still have men that pay. It's a choice, no one is forcing you to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:19 PM
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Oh Jesus Christ, stop threatening your bullshit, and do it already. Who gives a damn?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:39 PM
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Well yes, because everyone has a type, so do men. I don't get attention ever, but you dont see me bitching. I just go about my day, and I'll be single till I find what I am looking for or who's looking for me. Men's problem is blaming women when it's an every day thing, everyone deals with. Not everyone is going to find you attractive, sorry. Same way not everyone I like finds me attractive. It's just something that happens. Yeah, women have standards, guess what, it keeps women from a lot of hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:27 PM
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At the end of the day, yeah, I want nice things, I love nice things, but I work hard for my nice things. So, if that makes me materialistic, so be it. But men in my opinion are also materialistic, just about differing things. People in general are materialistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:22 PM
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Men who are trash like that, shouldn't waste my time with fake friendship. Y'all need to focus more on paying for sex, if all you want is non genuine anything. Kind of disgusting, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:54 PM
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You did, with your generalizations. But like I said, you can only change what you're wanting at the end of the day. I hope it all works out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:53 PM
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Some women, myself included, know this. It's kind of obvious, doesn't mean we don't still want what we desire at the end of the day. We will still be attracted to that type of man, the situation will just end when or if it comes time for that conversation. Lower value men also still want kids, most do. Still isn't going to change our attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:46 PM
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Women will straight up tell you, yeah they expect men to pay, it shows they're interested. You keep generalizing, but not every woman is wanting you to pay, so stick to the ones that will split with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:40 PM
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If you're only being friends with a woman to get with her, that's your first issue. You're not a genuine person, and no one wants to be with someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:30 PM
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They still have to be a woman's type. Y'all keep missing this point with all your imaginary arguments. It's not cut and dry, yes I prefer to be friends first with anyone that I date because I can trust them more. The problem is, men aren't trying to be genuine friends, they use friendship to get to that point to date the girl. But at the end of the day women aren't going to like every guy that becomes friends with them. I'm still best friends with the man who liked me back in 2014, up to like 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:20 PM
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Men also stereotype women, congrats we both do it. Some women expect men to pay, it's been a tradition as old as time. A lot of men seem to want some girl who is trying to be a stay at home wife. At the end of the day, all you can do is find someone who fits your needs. Same as any woman who doesn't want to pay. Your argument for women saying the thing about housework has never been spoken by majority of women anyways. It kills me, men want to be men, until women want men to be men, and then the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:06 PM
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Well then approach at places where I am telling you as a woman, that most women will be ok with it, and go from there. Or don't and be alone, just stop bitching, Jesus Christ thats unattractive. I simply gave you the solution, ask women out in social places, and you swear up and down, women don't like it. Yes, some women don't want to be bothered at all, they're either married, in a relationship or not looking. But the vast majority of(myself included), would rather not be hit on at the gym, doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:51 PM
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This. Why can't they just go after the ones that actually do what they are wanting? Damn, leave everyone else alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:45 PM
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Because he wants all women to change their standards and pay their part. They can't just ever deal with the ones that are in line with their beliefs, they have to believe "all women want them" and go after those that are a challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:36 PM
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100%. Like either put in your bio you'll pay or you expect the woman to pay, and the ones that agree with you will pay, just don't expect all women to agree to it. Jesus this is a tiring object.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:33 PM
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I just wish men would either pay or don't. Stop arguing the shit, women who want men to pay aren't going to pay, period, point blank. The best thing for men to do is to be straight up, and say hey, I don't pay for the first few dates and that's how I see it. You'll get the girl who are willing to pay, and that be it. Christ it has to be tiring to argue this shit all the time, either do it or don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:32 PM
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Depends on the woman, as do most situations. Best thing I can tell you all who "don't want to try" is to be alone. Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:27 PM
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You’re fine. I may have misread it. It’s all good 😂 I was just trying to help the original op in regards to the difference between men and women’s versions of liking masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:36 AM
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True. Everyone has different likes and dislikes, quite literally my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:29 AM
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Unfortunately 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:42 PM
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Agreed I suppose. I guess when women didn’t have a choice, it would’ve worked for men more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:38 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:13 PM
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I get it, but it becomes a large turn off too. Especially when it seems to be all men are interested in. That’s why I said women like intent, because if at the end of the day men only want sex or want sex too early, it won’t work for a large majority of us, it also screams I only like you for your body, and have no interest in anything else, and if men are mostly in to sex, there’s a large chance they’ll cheat. Overall it sucks. I haven’t dated a man in a while now, and I’m lucky I have other op…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:11 PM
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I will say it does depend on the woman, but majority of women I know, that’s what they’re attracted to. Men are pretty simple in my eyes. It’s mostly physical with them, but it does depends as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:00 PM
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Yes I’ve seen it, that’s why I mentioned it. Be yourself. Who gives a fuck? You read, you read. If you are worried about what people are going to say, you probably don’t need to date anyways. Everyone talks, it doesn’t matter what you do. Might as well be yourself and get someone who likes you for you. Jacob Elordi is one of the sexiest men on earth to me, why? Because he reads, takes care of himself, and isn’t afraid of looking “feminine.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:59 PM
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Start going to a coffee shop and reading in front of women. Dress nice. Wear nice cologne. Show you care for yourself. There’s still intention in actions, and women can tell. Most masculine Men only fall head over heels for women’s looks and if they can screw them or not, show you care about more than that. Don’t bring up sex, looks, etc. unless you want to be a one night stand, then that’s a different goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:49 PM
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Agreed. Strictly speaking on how a lot of society sees it. Which is why I said. If you enjoy doing those things, show them more. Women are attracted to smarts, intention, and someone who isn’t afraid to be themselves or to show a softer side.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:42 PM
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You most certainly can do those on the first few dates, I don’t mean love or something to that extent, but listening, romantic gestures, and taking care of yourself aren’t preserved only for relationships that are a year in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:41 PM
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Also, romance, showing you care, and taking care of yourself, also go a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:30 PM
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I never said it was. But society as a whole (not everyone) says it is, your masculine friends would probably say the same. I think cooking is necessary for everyone too. But I’m not necessarily saying cooking is what you need to work on. Reading can be considered feminine, don’t know why, but look at a lot of men who talk about reading and how they’re treated or talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:27 PM
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I can guarantee you reading and cooking isn’t part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:13 PM
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Being masculine in no way, shape or form means being a good man. There are a lot of “masculine” men that are abusers, cheaters, etc. At the end of the day, all I can tell you is to try and broaden your interests. Don’t be scared to be in to things men see as feminine, don’t be scared to be yourself. But if all you are at the end of the day is a gym bro, most girls will hook up with it, but there isn’t a lasting relationship with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:07 PM
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I mean you asked, and women are genuinely trying to explain it to you. I think that’s what I don’t understand. Men ask these questions, wanting advice from women on how to get women, or how to keep a lasting relationship or how to be desirable, and whenever it’s given, it’s an automatic “no that’s not true,” or men don’t like the advice given. At the end of the day, masculinity is something that mostly men worship, and if that’s who you want to attract, I’d say you’re on the right path.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:00 PM
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Yes a lot of women are attracted to feminine traits. Shocker, not all women are cookie cutter when it comes to preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:53 PM
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As long as it isn’t the only trait a man has, it’s not necessarily bad. But if all he has is his masculinity, it usually comes with insecurity and judgment towards men not so masculine, among others. I for one am very attracted to men who have feminine traits as well. But it does depend on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:49 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:41 PM
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I always laugh at the cases on off my chest or aitah, because if you’re waiting till kid #3 to ask for a paternity test for all your kids, your an asshole. And I’ll tell the woman, yes absolutely give it to him, but when it comes back how, file for divorce and let that be end of the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:41 PM
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That’s warm approach friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:37 PM
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If we are, I didn’t notice / didn’t read it that way. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:30 PM
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I mean, if you’re not in to women, people still want a companion and someone to love them. It’s normal. And it’s nice to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:03 PM
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Depends on what they classify as masculinity. I don’t mind it, but I’m not in to someone that is only masculine. It usually has insecurity, and judgment behind it, and I’m just not attracted. I like a man who isn’t scared to do or be things that are a little feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:59 PM
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A number can be doable, depending on the woman. It at least implies you want to ask the basics first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:57 PM
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Good for you for speaking on what “most women” want, which you don’t know. But I disagree. And was simply letting you know. Thank you for the conversation. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:54 PM
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Disagree. But that happens. Thank you for the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:52 PM
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A cold approach is just asking out from the jump. It may work for some women. But a lot aren’t going to say yes to it. There’s no getting to know the person, there’s no figuring out if we’re even compatible in the basic ways. It’s just straight, “wanna go have dinner?” But like I said, it works for some women. I was speaking strictly from my point of view. I would say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:51 PM
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Sure. Because then you know the woman actually likes you. Just wait for a woman to ask you out. Seems like the best bet at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:49 PM
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😂 sir, I’m saying not to ask women out in settings like a gym, etc. because yes we will feel unsafe, a bar is specifically for these situations and is expected, it’s up to the other person to say hey, no thank you, and the asker to go about his business.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:42 PM
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I think both should disclose the information, but if it comes to the date and you didn’t let her know and she has no money, don’t get shocked when she walks out the door. 🤷🏻‍♀️ it’s smarter for men to be up front.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:41 PM
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I don’t agree with trauma dumping, but having discussions about trauma (actual trauma) is necessary on both sides. Both sides should have empathy, but at the end of the day, they can’t solve the problem, therapy is still needed on both fronts. Men just refuse to do so more. But there is a difference between trauma and some things that men complain about. I can have empathy about men not finding someone to sleep with, but the blaming is when it makes us back up and say hey, ok, fix your situation…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:39 PM
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Then I don’t know what you’re wanting pal. Seems like you just want to argue. Ask, don’t ask. Just ask in the right setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:36 PM
1

I also refuse to date men who have ever had a one night stand or cheated before. It’s safer that way. So I get it. If that’s their preference, more power to them, just don’t down them for something that wasn’t their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:34 PM
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Cold approaching is the least attractive in my opinion. I’d always say no to a cold approach. It’s just not an effort worth pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:32 PM
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I truly thing he’s gay. Not knocking him at all. I just don’t think any man who truly likes women, trashes them as much as that man does. I think he just hates society standards and takes it out on women instead of just being himself and being happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:31 PM
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Your loss then my friend. I’ve met plenty of women and men at bars willing to date. Maybe it’s a lack of social skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:29 PM
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I tell men up front that if they expect sex right away, to not date me, because I’m not that way. So in a way, yes I do. It’s called respect. You not telling a woman up front is your way of trapping her in to paying her own side of the bill as punishment, instead of just saying hey I want someone who will pay for themselves so you can find those women who you are actually compatible with. People have different preferences, and that’s ok. Find those people with those preferences. Just like I’m no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:29 PM
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Some do yes. If they go to women’s only bars or women’s only functions that means they’re not looking. But there are blind date functions, there’s bars that are open to everyone. You can still ask women in bars, but if they say no, they’re not looking or they have someone. There is still the risk of being rejected, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:25 PM
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I’ll use a personal experience with a friend of mine. He liked me after we met at work, told me after being friends for about a year, and I told him I would always be there for him, but I didn’t have those feelings for him. Of course the crush didn’t go away for a long time, but I was very careful with how I was with him from that point on. There was no flirty language, even though I’m a natural flirt, I didn’t do any touchy feely anything, because I didn’t want him to think I was leading him on…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:05 PM
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No. I think it’s human by human distinctions. I’ve known women who thrived on sex, and men who weren’t that into it and vice versa. I do think men depend on it more, in a general sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:51 PM
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I would agree if it wasn’t the mindset and the marriage ruining taking place. Porn unfortunately puts unrealistic standards in to sex for men and when their wives aren’t like that, they cheat or resort to porn only and don’t stay consistent in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:48 PM
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I have always argued that what you came into the marriage with, you should leave with. If you had it before marriage, it should still be yours if it ends. If you buy things together in the marriage, they should be split. But this also depends on if there is an agreement in the marriage for her to be a stay at home wife or mom, then she should be compensated and shouldn’t leave with absolutely nothing. Same if there was a stay at home dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:42 PM
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Go to SOCIAL SETTINGS. That’s the whole point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:33 PM
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This is because men want to put ALL their baggage on to women instead of going to therapy. A lot of their baggage (on Reddit especially) seems to come from them not getting laid, and to be honest women aren’t going to take that seriously, especially when they’re expecting something from their partners to fix it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:29 PM
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This. This right here, is spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:25 PM
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A man who can communicate his feelings (without anger and yelling), who doesn’t use “men being blunt” as a way to attack and be rude to his partner, someone who understands women have deeper emotions than men do and yes will get hurt easily sometimes, someone who can have a conversation about each others emotions easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:23 PM
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Of course, but in that same discussion, they’re not good for a relationship and are seen as disgusting on some levels, myself included. But a majority of men are and might be ok with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:18 PM
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Ugh agreed, I love men that more feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:15 PM
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Why wouldn’t you, it gives her the option to say yes or no to a date, so she knows what to expect and so do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:59 PM
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I mean. There’s simple solutions. Don’t date women you aren’t compatible with, be up front and honest with how you want to move in a relationship. OR you change how you are and become a “simp” to get the women you desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:52 PM
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No, is no. Period. And after a certain point if she's done said no, and you keep on, I dont blame the girl for making a scene and making you go away, period. take the loss and fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:23 PM
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I’m confused on what you’re wanting or saying really…. I mean unless you come from a family that does arranged marriages / meet-ups, you’re not going to really be finding someone this way. Through being friends, etc. the friend still has to ask the other friend out. It still all starts with a conversation unless you have a belief of arranged marriages or automatic mating, which no one really wants. Unless you have that belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:29 AM
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Oh I definitely agree with that. I don’t know if it’s an insecurity thing, a belief system or just their nature, but it’s why a lot of oppressive type men, are not finding women they want. Women aren’t giving in to being oppressed anymore, except for the ones that want that I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:35 PM
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That is very true. I would say call the cops instead, but they don’t do a lot of good in situations like this either, a lot of times, the perpetrators are put the next night. I
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:25 PM
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I do understand not wanting to call it out, especially if you’re physically there. That’s a fair reservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:22 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:17 PM
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Me neither. I just don’t understand why someone would want to disrespect or try not to understand someone that they claim they want and are trying to get. Even as a whole, like why disrespect, even if they aren’t your cup of tea or they don’t like you, or they have different preferences, etc. It’s sad because communication and having different wants / needs is very easy to master and live with, but people (especially on this Reddit) make it harder than it is. But I truly don’t think anyone on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:34 PM
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Now we’re just being obtuse. It’s not hard to just communicate and when politely asked to help when I as a wife is busy, or if it’s too heavy, or even if we team carry the damn thing to the trash can, it can be done in less than ten minutes, and everyone can go back to what they were doing beforehand. I have fully come to terms that men just want to argue, not even listen to actual conversation or solutions. Same as the men that when we ask them to do something like hang up a tv, take this down,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:28 PM
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There are plenty who will be that for you. I think some women unfortunately won’t lean in to that role, even if a man likes it, because a majority of men, look down on or make fun of masculine women and the men that like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:20 PM
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And I believe it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:43 AM
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No feminism as a whole does not. Radical feminism, yes. Please learn the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:51 AM
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Like I said, If you’re not one, it isn’t for you. Be intelligent enough to read in between the lines. If you’re not hateful towards women, you’re not one. You can go now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:13 AM
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Are you an ignorant, sniveling bastard? If not, then it’s not mean towards you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:09 AM
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Neither does the original wrong. But happy you’re one of the good ones. I hope you stay that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:04 AM
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It’s not about feminism. It’s about knowing when men are treating women like shit, same way I don’t stay friends with a woman who puts down men as a whole. It’s about being a human being. But that seems to be hard for a lot of you anyways. Thank god for the ones who aren’t ignorant, sniveling bastards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:02 AM
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What men mostly get mad about is that women hold their attraction standards at a high value and are refusing to come off them (I most certainly won't), but SOME women act like it's a bad thing for men to have their own standards. I for one, vote for everyone to date what they see fit for THEIR LIVES, at the end of the day, men and women alike have to live with it and are the ones who have to be happy in their relationships, which include attraction. My only issue is with anyone who puts people d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:12 PM
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It requires you to care about the person you’re dating. End of. I don’t care about someone’s interests who one, isn’t part of the relationship, and two, isn’t the values I am after. Family is a hit or miss, a lot of times, family’s have their own interests, and should really kick rocks and mind their own businesses. But within your partners family, sure you can care to an extent what they think, but no, my preferences don’t have shit to do with his family or my family’s choices unless I’m active…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:50 PM
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Society as a whole is completely different from the justice system. I said they didn’t CHOOSE to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:47 PM
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I mean, or men could stop raping their friends? Let's put the blame where it actually belongs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:34 PM
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I agree, for me it mainly shows they only look at women in a sexual nature, not as anything else. They don't value her as a person, or for her conversation, mutual interests, nothing. It all comes down to sex for a lot of men who don't have women friends. To be honest, I think it's kind of in the best interest of the woman, to ask about the women in his life before she goes on a date or during, and if they don't have female friendships it would be not necessarily a flag, but something to conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:33 PM
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🤣 men didn’t CHOOSE to do anything. But yeah, you keep believing men as a whole are “the good ones.” I spoke my peace, we don’t agree. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:29 PM
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Oh I agree 100%, i feel like we’re definitely at a last resort.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:28 PM
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I said men holding their own, not the justice system, where they “have to.” But even the justice system isn’t perfect. There are still men who get away with this on a daily basis. Rape still isn’t considered a serious concern in multiple cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:26 PM
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I mean, when do men hold their own accountable? They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:57 PM
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I don't want that at the end of the day, truly, but really, what do men expect? If it keeps women safe, I don't know what else they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:56 PM
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They skip over this because when have men ever gave a damn about what happens to women, they're just as cruel to women, so it'll continue to be a cycle. Another reason is men like to act like they have feelings when something doesn't go their way, but don't give a damn when something happens to the women, truly why should women care what happens to men, at all? Have you seen what men do to women, as far as men killing their wives for wanting to leave an unhappy marriage, rape, killing random wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:54 PM
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You go on to the next one, stop trying to coerce people to date you, it's sad, and a little pathetic. Like I said, pay attention to body language, if she looks uncomfortable, back tf away, it's not hard. Apparently, when she starts screaming is the only time men will back the hell off, have some damn respect and go away when she tells you no the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:43 PM
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why should anyone give a damn about what someone thinks about their dating life, especially when they're not apart of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:39 PM
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Well of course, no one is truly "too good" for most people, but it still comes down to attraction and what the person is looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:15 AM
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I absolutely do, I'll mention when I notice one who is attractive to whoever I am with, but I also will not interact, if he sees me looking, he could think it's an invitation and I don't want him to think that, I'd much rather fantasize if I am honest. Sounds fucked but, I don't like the possibility of rejections or failure, so I don't try or even let them attempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:06 AM
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It depends on the woman to be honest, some women may change their minds, some may be more willing to date someone depending on the day. I however, find it horrible for a man to keep on when I have already said no thank you. I guess the key is, to pay attention to tone and body language, if she seems uncomfortable, back tf off, if she starts getting pissed off because you continue, move tf on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:00 AM
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I personally don't think people should lie, but men have this thing where they're blunt about every little damn thing, and it's not needed, especially when it pertains to feelings. I think white lies where the person asks about how they look, or their weight, or some other opinion that you know damn well is going to hurt their feelings, you have free reign to white lie. I mean if you asked about your size, do you want me to be straight up honest and say, ehh I've seen bigger? No, you don't. Beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:56 AM
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I mean, if we can get what we want, why should we? Plenty of men are willing to give women what they desire, same for men if each side works for it or achieves the standard each person sets. I personally think dropping your standards makes you more suspect to horrible behavior and horrible partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:51 AM
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I agree, you can have any preference you damn well please, just unfortunately the men that don't have those things will come at you for it. It's best to just ignore them and focus on what you want or need. That's what everyone needs to do in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:49 AM
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To be honest, probably not, men in the past were allowed to pick a woman, and women had to put up with it if they wanted a stable life, etc. So no, men really weren't better in the past, I prefer them now, IF they're level-headed, can hold a conversation and aren't in it for their own interests (which is very rare), then I'd prefer now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:48 AM
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Well duh, some women do bad things to men yes, just as some men do bad things to women. Who knew?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:45 AM
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You don't what women experience, because newsflash, you aren't one. Have a good one. Continue being woe is me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:26 PM
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No it wasn't but keep thinking you know everything. Rejection isn't one sided or an experience only men have. Hate to burst your bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:21 PM
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Oh they're not, oh my bad, my experience and the women I know's experience, must not count then. But yeah sure you assume everything is right on yours and other men's side of the world, when in fact, no it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:10 PM
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Could've been, or it could just be professor Bob up there who originally posted, if it was, then I do apologize. But, I figured he got it from somewhere, so If I assumed, my bad. My last point stands though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:09 PM
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Have a good day monk. Go argue with someone willing to listen to nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:01 PM
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Yes it does. Don’t like it, fix yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:56 PM
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That’s dating apps for you. Sure he can be burned. But the issue is, when men complain, men in general like to blame women, when it is no one’s fault. Just how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:53 PM
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There’s no proof he’s not anyone’s cup of tea. A dating app is bad for everyone, hell it was awful for me for a good year. Everyone struggles. It ain’t nothing new. But even then, he just has to keep trying. No one HAS to find you attractive, nor should they.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:46 PM
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It may be calling it “playtime” that leads women to believe he’s not looking for a serious relationship. He also won’t be everyone’s cup of tea. Just because you and himself find him attractive doesn’t mean all women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:23 PM
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First off, if you have someone who is jealous of celebrities and tv shows and stuff, you need to leave, because that’s weird. If you don’t want someone jealous don’t date them. I personally wouldn’t be with a man who still has dating apps, or follows a lot of women on insta that he’s obviously talking to or in to, but that’s just me. Us not wanting you interacting with another woman, isn’t the same as you wanting to control us. What we wear isn’t your business, what we post depends on what exact…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:10 PM
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And all I hear is me, me, me. No one said women should look down on men, but not dating them isn’t the same as looking down on them. You’re still a pos. I don’t care who you try to convince. Have you ever thought certain things happened to you to teach you a lesson, but damn you still haven’t learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:14 PM
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🤷🏻‍♀️ keep trying. That’s best I can tell you, but to expect women or men for that matter to lower there’s, isn’t realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:55 PM
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You wouldn’t settle for less than what you want, it would also get you to level up to meet your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:53 PM
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There is a difference between pressuring and simply asking, you can ask, but if he’s an asshole about me saying not yet, then it’s a hard no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:17 PM
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Oh I 100% agree, the emotional intelligence is a must and is very rare. I agree whole-heartedly. It sounds bad but I’m looking for certain things, someone that can hold a deep, intellectual conversation with me about almost anything (my interests or theirs), emotional intelligence is absolute and needs to be on my level. And yes, men seem to lack this the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:11 PM
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I already spoke on this, try to reread.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:06 PM
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Because the women that are attracted to all of you, you complain about. So obviously you all have an issue somewhere, why continue putting yourself through it, if you don’t want to settle and you have no chance with the others?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:59 PM
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It’s a fair fear, to be honest. Especially with how high of a risk it is to be alone with a man. Women get killed, etc. from being married to them, or being their sister in law (if you seen the new one), or just being friends with them sometimes. So I think the fear is always going to be there to an extent. It’s just something you have to battle, and you either try or you don’t. If they’re still scared, take the loss and move on to the next one. Not every woman gets scared, but a lot do. To be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:58 PM
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That’s what makes it uncomfortable though. I’ve never met a woman that had an issue with them approaching, it’s not taking a hint that gets uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:50 PM
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I’m bisexual. I lean largely towards women. But yes occasionally I find a guy attractive. Usually it’s ruined within a date or two by them pressuring for sex, but I try, and it’s not 95%, I’d say more around 75% that I’m not attracted to. But I usually find an occasional man that seems worth it, and he either winds up not being so, or we date for a while. Just depends. Really you could say the same about men too. If you have no interest in learning and loving women completely, and are not attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:49 PM
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The only thing that makes things uncomfortable is timing and not backing off when told no. When some men keep on pressuring, yeah at that point I’m going to assume you’re out to get me or something. A simple no, ok thanks, goes a long way. And yeah, unfortunately cold approach doesn’t work with everyone. A lot of women will see it as inconvenient if it’s in a busy setting. Just depends, you can always try, but the key is to back off when told no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:45 PM
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If the fertility rate is that important to people, it takes sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:06 PM
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Because they aren’t wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:42 AM
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Oh look, the pot calling the kettle black. Men do the same thing, and if you keep on having this moronic debate / conversation, you’ll just continue to wallow in your own self pity, because no one actually gives a damn. Find who wants you and be happy. That’s I tell everyone. Keep your standards high, and take the rejection and don’t be rude. End of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:38 AM
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No. Hope this helps. Try having higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:35 AM
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Can’t sell what you don’t have. And a lot of women aren’t lining up to see Bob the builder thrust in to someone… or a plastic doll… or jack off… etc. Maybe if he’s good looking and has abs, but even that is a very big dependent, because I’ve seen men who have done it get made fun of for trying. Gay men have a market. But that’s because that works for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:31 AM
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Does being a hateful man-child, who can’t get any pussy, mean op’s claim is credible? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:15 AM
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Damn, you are on some black pill shit. 🤣🤣🤣 “Let’s ask women a question, have no idea what women are like at all, except the extremes, and then tell them they’re wrong, because hey I’m alone and single, so that must mean they’re shallow, enjoy money over love and don’t want intimacy….”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:08 AM
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Seems like you’re getting women mixed up with men. Did you mean to ask men this question? 🤣 because flopped the answer is probably 50% in my experience, because a lot of men don’t truly love their wives, they love sex, and at the end of the day, that’s all they live for, then they wonder why they’re so alone at the end of the day. If you how however, asking women, the answer is most men will. Whether the men also desire the woman back, isn’t the question. The question is will they be desired by …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:04 AM
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Who desires the men isn’t the question is it? Whether it be someone you’re not attracted to or not, doesn’t matter. The question is, how many men will be TRULY DESIRED, and the answer is still MOST. Whether you settle and have sex with someone out of being desperate or wait it out for the person you want, they’re truly desired. Maybe at the end of the day, it isn’t that no one will date you average men, maybe it’s your backwards, rude, f**ked up way of seeing women that makes you alone, and it’l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:46 AM
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Has nothing to do with women picking anyone. Most men still have the opportunity to be desired once in their life, dating apps aren’t the only way you find people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:42 AM
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You're a pos because you look down on other people just because "you got better," you can not date whoever, it's how you talk about them and treat them that is the fucking issue, but you should know that.... then again, only kind, loving person would know that, and you are neither of those things. An inspiration to what exactly? Gym bro mode? No one gives a shit about that unless they're just as shallow, but that may work for you, seems like your type. Grow the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:32 AM
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Self-hate is very normal for people who want to "show people" what they were missing, you should've used your time to grow in to a better person and not a "healthy" pos.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:27 AM
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Oh that makes sense now, you want your get back at bigger women because they rejected you when you were out of shape. Damn. Son don’t you know it’s better to heal than be vengeful, it only leads to hate and unhappiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:14 AM
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Completely agree with that and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:07 AM
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Oh yeah I know, simple conversations make people like the commenters in this Reddit so angry… it’s insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:03 AM
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Men don’t love women, they are doing what society pressured them in to doing. But you also aren’t describing love at all. Women aren’t pressured by society to do so, so no probably not, but nowadays men wouldn’t either. Who’s sacrificing themselves anymore? Who would ask someone to do that? Just be happy and find someone who cares for you the way you care for them, it isn’t hard, people just choose to make it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:48 PM
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Then don’t reply. That simple. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:43 PM
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Learn to have choices or keep complaining and keep settling. There are options. Stop bitching just to bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:36 PM
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And neither should settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:25 PM
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I don't have empathy for any of y'all, men or women. No woman should settle, no man should settle. You all need to man up and fix your own problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:25 PM
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Sad that you'll never actually be liked or loved, because you're a terrible person. But you have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:12 PM
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I see why no one will date you without you having a gym body to be honest. You have a shit personality, might be the reason other things don't work out for you in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:11 PM
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Damn, at the end of the day I just feel bad for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:04 PM
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Disagree but we're not going to agree. Things won't change, might as well live with it and find who likes you. Have a good one friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:39 PM
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Times change friend, some women like guys with gym bods, some don't, it's all about preference. Look elsewhere would be my suggestion, or just be happy until you find the one. I'm sorry you went through that, I it works out for you on both fronts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:31 PM
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I see your comment for the most part, but no, 20 years ago would've been 2006, so yeah still wouldn't have been my type. But if you want to say the 70's, then possibly I would have to, because women couldn't have credit cards or houses without a man, so we had to do shit we didn't want to, to survive. And that's the kicker, you know that, but if that's what you're wanting to go back to, I'd say you're out of luck my friend. Men are also attracted to "completely unnatural" women, but hey, to each…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:02 PM
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I see your comment for the most part, but no, 20 years ago would've been 2006, so yeah still wouldn't have been my type. But if you want to say the 70's, then possibly I would have to, because women couldn't have credit cards or houses without a man, so we had to do shit we didn't want to, to survive. And that's the kicker, you know that, but if that's what you're wanting to go back to, I'd say you're out of luck my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:57 PM
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Looks like you need to edit your reply, they deleted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:54 PM
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It’s really something everyone needs to stop doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:38 PM
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And again, don’t date. Women don’t have to cater to you because you think you’re ugly. Find someone that likes you, and move on with your life. I don’t expect shit from men, I find one I find attractive, if we work and he finds me attractive, that’s it. End of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:31 PM
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And you too should “get over it,” because I’m sorry, no woman is settling for mediocre, nor are we having sex with it either. Be alone, or find someone who likes you the way you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:25 PM
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I for one am not settling for someone I don’t like physically, nor would I sleep with him on a nightly basis if he was ugly to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:15 PM
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Again, no one is required or should settle. You find who you find attractive, and pray they find you attractive back. The world would be easier if everyone would mind their own business.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:15 PM
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Because no one is above 80% of anyone. You just have to find what likes you, and stop bitching about everyone else. That and attraction depends on the person, so not everyone is the same. Like with your attitude, I wouldn’t find you in the highest 50%, I don’t care how much money you make. And awful inside makes an ugly outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:14 PM
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It's not, you just think you're better than 80% of women, which is laughable. If you don't want to date someone thick or curvy, don't. Wait for someone you want. But they have the right to date who wants them as well, and there are men who want thick or curvy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:07 PM
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Well I'm happy for you. But women in relationships where they have to settle for someone they don't find attractive aren't going to prosper good sex or sex at all, sometimes. Resentment is a very big factor in these relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:06 PM
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Yup, but trying to get them to understand goes nowhere, so I stopped arguing, I just speak my peace and tell them good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:26 PM
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At the end of the day, you're still going to be begging for sex from someone who thinks you look awful and hates you, so why do you want to do that just to not be lonely?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:19 PM
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Maybe so, but again, don't date those women, if they can find men that will date them, what's stopping the men that complain?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:18 PM
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Exactly, they are just desperate for right now, but then when their wives don't want to have sex with them because they aren't attracted, it'll be back to, why don't women want to have sex? Same with the men that get pissed off when women leave a marriage they aren't happy in, why do you want to stay in a marriage where she hates you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:15 PM
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Yup, but they don't understand that. They want a woman to "desire them" sexually, but then want them to date people they're not attracted to, it doesn't work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:03 PM
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What women want is patience (majority of us are not ready to trust you that much), and for it not to be a daily chore, and there to be some romance to the actions. You making it a daily chore, makes us very turned off and unlikely to reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:19 PM
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Then you decide not to do it, because it doesn't work for you. Ranking system exists on both sides because people are attracted to what they're attracted to. Nothing is going to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:07 AM
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And this is where I step out of this convo because you're choosing not to make sense. Nor are you replying intellectually. I hope you have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:02 AM
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I said the women that only care about money, not all women. Learn to read the entire comment if you want to have a conversation. Glad you did what was necessary instead of complaining, also glad it worked out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:59 AM
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Doesn't change their beliefs at the end of the day, but hey nor do people like that really care about hotness to be fair, but every one is entitled to their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:55 AM
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Ok? They’re not going to listen to you. Both people in the couples that are money hungry get benefits from it, so it won’t change anything. People have different values that they’re attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:46 AM
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Ok, you have that right to that opinion. Go say it to women that are actually with those men. I'm not entertaining you putting women down if that's what you're wanting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:43 AM
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Ok? What does this have to do with anything I said? I wouldn't personally date a man that wasn't attractive JUST because he has money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:37 AM
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Cool, not everyone is the same. Nor are all rich men ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:33 AM
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Oh, no sir. He still has to be attractive, I don't care for money that much. Lol. But, like I said, if I have kids, it is very much a plus. If I don't, we can still have a good life and not struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:29 AM
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I said it was an option. This man asked, I told him. You don't have to take it as an option, as I said, there are other options. It's just nothing people want to do I suppose. So there's no options left. I even included become a passport bro as an option, and he didn't care for that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:25 AM
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Depends on the woman, but a man who has money, for me means my kids (if I decide to have them) don't have to struggle like I did. And if not, It means we can have a good life, it means not wanting or needing for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:15 AM
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Every man has the opportunity to experience it, and I think most do. It’s the extremes people look at that make things like this pop in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:37 PM
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Men are complaining, like I said they're not required to lower anything, but then don't complain or change or become a passport bro and get your money up. There doesn't seem to be any options that are going to satisfy you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:22 PM
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Depends, I think some women get scared and settle quickly. But it's about the same amount of us that know from the start we don't want children at all, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:13 PM
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To be fair, I feel like it's about equal as it's not every woman nor every man, but I do think men blame women more than just accepting it and moving on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:10 PM
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No shit, it's an option, not the only one, but an option none the less.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:09 PM
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Never said they should, but you asked how someone could work on themselves. I told you, or the option is to be a passport bro or to lower your standards IF you are desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:03 PM
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You can get surgery to extend your height to be fair. Or you could go for less attractive women if you're that desperate to have someone. Get fit, get your money up, there are many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:41 PM
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People don't have to agree with something for you to want to do it. In that case none of us would ever do things in spite of what our families think. Passport Bro shit is your business, and if some woman is willing to do it, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:38 PM
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Yup, I tried to talk to a few just to show empathy because of course I want to care for people, but men make it so hard. Especially when all they do is attack and they don't want to actually have a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:36 PM
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Considering eligible bachelors are considered very highly respected and wanted, I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:07 PM
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The problem is they aren't willing to take any woman, so they don't consider the ones that don't want women. They want the women they find attractive to settle and will continue saying "women have outrageous standards" until one settles for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:06 PM
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Yeah not going to agree with that, especially with how we're treated, but you're free to think what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:04 PM
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Because they know how it works and pay attention to what makes their partner feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:43 PM
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We don't orgasm the same way as you all do, penetration doesn't do it for most women, that's why foreplay and oral is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:42 PM
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The crazy thing is, if this was swapped and the man was staying with a financially irresponsible woman, you’d all preach at him to leave, period. No one should be staying with anyone who is genuinely a selfish idiot, who is financially ruining them. Nowadays we as women have to think about ourselves on the very real chance the man we love decides to cheat or leave, us being in debt doesn’t protect us, especially when it’s because of the husband. It’s a large part of the reason women don’t want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:29 PM
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I mean, would you stay in an unhappy marriage? If she sees no way around it, I support them both finding what makes them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:20 PM
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And men only appreciate women when they get sex or they’re their housemaids and child bearers. It’s a double edged sword friend, might as well get used to it and refuse to date until you find someone who doesn’t. None of us appreciate at our most simple unless you find a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:07 PM
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You’re comparing two different things, it’s not remotely the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:00 PM
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Because majority of the emotional issues men want help with, are lack of sex, or they can’t find a woman. And when you try to have sympathy for the not dating issues, they get pissed ofd and would rather blame women than fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:57 PM
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Thank god there’s one of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:55 PM
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I do think it depends on their emotions, I only say this because it took one little thing to piss my dad off and make him want to cheat on my mom, it also depends on maturity as well. This is very much true, that's why there's so many Leonardo's out here. But this is still another one that has to do with maturity and how they were raised (a lot of the time). They want their "heir," they dont care how they get it, everyone is expendable and they'll always do what suits them first, nothing more, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:49 PM
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My only situationship was with a girl, and I stayed because I liked her so much, and there was promises of "maybe someday." I'm not going to lie, I think me not believing I deserved better at the time had me stuck, but also, it was the first time I fell for anyone. Honestly, it can be a lot of different for each person. Promises of more, manipulation, low self-esteem. Many different situations honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:41 PM
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Not getting approached every two seconds by randoms. It would be so nice to just exist without being expected to smile, give out my number or reject / not reject someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:32 PM
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Men seem happy doing the same. The beautiful thing is there are individuals in each group that aren't like the few we all get mad at. Stop grouping people together, it's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:29 PM
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Please. We're already way over-populated as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:17 AM
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Finally they can understand something we've been saying.....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:04 AM
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Apps are definitely not all they’re cracked up to be, and in my experience are used mainly to hook up, by a lot of people. So I wouldn’t count what people say about apps. As far as would I. Yes, because I don’t use apps to begin with, but if I did, and this happened to happen, there could be many differences. His confidence could come off better in person than on an app. Pictures may have made him look entirely different on the app than in person. So yes, it absolutely could be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:49 AM
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People are going to assume based on their personal experiences. That much is obvious at this point. Men do the same shit. We know this already.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:19 PM
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It is pointless. Women aren’t going to change them, and we shouldn’t have to. Men need to be more selective as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:10 PM
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Yes we do. If the man is wealthy and that’s what we want and go after. But majority of the men who average women date and marry, aren’t rich or successful, they’re working a 9 to 5, or a 12 to 12. Just like she does. Stop basing your lives on the outliers and extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:30 PM
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They’ll never understand. In their mind, sex = attraction, they don’t think about everything else. And swear to god we don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:28 PM
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Everyone finds someone by chance majority of the time. Unless you’re on dating apps, it’s literally chance happenings and chance meetings that lead you to your person. That’s how I met my boyfriend. Literally just happened. I wasn’t looking for anything, nor was he. We found each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:07 AM
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False. But you’re not going to understand that. MEN DO NOT DO THESE THINGS FOR WOMEN. We don’t FUCKING LIKE THEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:42 AM
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Well god I would hope so. The problem with people like Ted Bundy and Gary Ridgeway, is they pretended to be someone else, this nice, amazing, loving men, and manipulated the women they married and stayed with while doing the killings. Now I’m not going to say they weren’t stupid for not noticing the signs, etc. but many people don’t notice red flags while in a toxic relationship, until it’s too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:39 AM
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He’s emotional about any topic to do with women or sex or men who, in his words, “are big d**ked studs,” because they bother him so much, because women like them more than him. Him and his partner OP, tag team these debates to attack women and insult them and their way of thinking. They’re both wastes of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:35 AM
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Everything 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:24 AM
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Exactly what I said. Men do not care about what we like or want. When we like or want something, they try to change our minds, or change what we like. Men aren’t dressing up for us or going to the gym for us. That’s for them (as it should be) and to impress other men. Same with the cars and clothes and shoes they buy. That’s got nothing to do with women or what we are attracted to or like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:23 AM
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That’s to help them get women, and impress other men. That has nothing to do with what women like or want, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:21 AM
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Me either buddy. Some need to go to be honest. 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:25 AM
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I’m not disagreeing with you by any means. I can deal and involve myself with stuff a man likes, hell I like comics and video games, but definitely more so if I’m attracted to him and it doesn’t revolve around his entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:24 AM
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Exactly. When have they ever gave a damn about what we want or like? They always try to change it, our minds, or don’t give a damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:18 AM
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Again, do men do this for women? They don’t, they revolve around sex, which doesn’t make women want y’all anymore for the record. They don’t learn a damn thing or care about our lives or our wants or what turns us on (obviously), or our interests…. Unless it’s the VERY FEW that date some women. In what way? Change myself? No, absolutely not. Try to indulge in their interests? Sure, depending on what they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:17 AM
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No, not really. I’ve never tried to learn things like that. Why would I want to know anything about a man unless I’m with one? Do men do this for women? Absolutely not, only when they date them. I don’t understand your other question, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:40 AM
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If I’m with him, obviously equal as to how much he cares learning about me. Other than that, not really. But no. I’m not changing myself for the opinion of anyone. That’s the point of finding someone who loves you for you and you love them the same. No, why would I? You don’t go looking for love or anything of that nature, that’s how you get in f**ked up situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:47 AM
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I'm not arguing that men won't have sex with anything. They'll have sex with severely younger than them women if it suits them, along with animals, etc. Women don't because they have higher standards, but they're attacked for it. That is my issue, the victimization men use on themselves to make women seem like the problem, when there is no issue to begin with, they're just lonely and sex crazed so they have to make it everyone else's problem instead of making their standards higher or just being…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:11 PM
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Amen. Nothing else to add, your honor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:06 PM
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You completely missed what the hypocrisy was. But thank you for understanding that women don't owe these men anything but human decency and a niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:03 PM
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I can understand that. Really on both sides, everyone just needs to stop blaming whole groups at one time I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:01 PM
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That's fair, and I can understand that. It's not that I have no empathy for them, I do, but it's hard to have empathy when they blame all of women kind, and take no initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:00 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:55 PM
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To be fair, I am not in red pill's anything and stay away from them. Lol. This was mainly a post in response to the men that posted about a week ago, that women wouldn't date "people they don't find attractive," and how they don't have any options. My entire point was women deal with the same shit, but apparently it's women's fault they're alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:30 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/ruuvwucebhbh1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c93613c1e75f1894b48661c1ba941dded7438377 Damn, I thought the Forrest Gump gif would work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:27 PM
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Emphasis on clown. Just like the man yesterday that told me all women only want "big d**ked studs" on one of the Reddit posts here. And the original op's comment was about if as women, do we think our men have more of a sex drive or about the same as us. I had to tell him that he was more concerned with the size of someone's private area, than any woman I have known ever has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:26 PM
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I'm legitimately talking about this reddit sub and the people on it. Not all men obviously (let me make that clear), but a good majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:23 PM
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I know, I'm about to delete it, it causes me too much stress, even when I want to try and understand. People make life too hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:05 PM
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Oh yeah I know. They don't like being seen as objective. They know they are, they know they only look at women for looks, but when we do it, its so damn bad and we're "ruining society."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:03 PM
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I'm not bothered by men not liking anyone. Like who you like. My point is about the hypocrisy, which obviously you're missing. I could ask every guy here the same things about women. How do any of you know anything about what women want, etc. or about the lady on the forum's habits. You don't and that is exactly the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:58 PM
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Lol this is very true. There's two people in particular that find me each time I post (one is here now), and I just like to mess with him, because he's that ass backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:54 PM
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Same thing with the woman, she also could be doing the same thing and she's still getting judged for "being unhealthy and not trying." Women deal with the same thing, whether men want to admit or not. Agree, for both genders. So men should stop being hypocritical and saying women need to change their standards and deal with it, just like women should.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:53 PM
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I'm starting to get that. Lol. I enjoy the ones about interests, but thinking we could come on here and actually have constructive arguments, that was definitely an oversight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:50 PM
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Yup, I never once compared healthy men and obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:49 PM
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That's what I am saying. Every time a man says any woman is attractive, you have people like Certain Pattern up there, who is like, "Stop simping, she's not even all that." I just wish they would go ahead and find their perfect man if they think they're above everyone. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:48 PM
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Disagree. But you have a good day. And thank you for the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:45 PM
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Oh I know. They just can’t admit they’re also objective and wouldn’t date just anyone. That would be too simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:45 PM
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Well majority of people would disagree with you, and this is probably why you’re so unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:44 PM
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I agree. I tried to have empathy a week ago, and help them find a solution but got told it was women’s fault instead. So I just thought I’d make a comparison. But you’re right, I do need to stop caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:43 PM
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Men are definitely broken, especially you. Fix yourself or be alone, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:41 PM
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I agree, I feel the same way about average, overweight men. I just think it's their way to complain and not do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:39 PM
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I also agree, the argument is tiring. It's exhausting to see a man complaining and do nothing to fix it. I just the thought the hypocrisy was ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:38 PM
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I'm complaining about hypocrisy. I don't care about people being shallow. People like who they like at the end of the day. I'm talking about the lonely incels who won't go to the gym, groom themselves, or level up and still expect to be picked by women. And complain, consistently. But will do nothing to fix their options. I would tell a woman the same thing, but it's not women that I see complaining about their options as someone out of shape. I see them asking for advice, as the girl did in tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:37 PM
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Everything happens in their heads. I keep telling them therapy helps, but they don't listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:35 PM
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People who should date who they want, and desire to. Work on yourself, or be alone and happy. Who is to decide who anyones look match is, because not everyone is out for looks, does it help? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:34 PM
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I really dont give a damn if you get pissed off. Your hypocrisy is what pisses me off. Fix yourselves or dont date, those are your choices. And no, no one has empathy for your selfish ass anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:33 PM
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I agree. My point is, you tell this same thing to men, and they want to make excuses. This is where the hypocrisy comes in, because they believe women should choose them "just because", barring the fact they haven't worked on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:32 PM
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Yes, seen it done. But again, this is about the hypocrISY. There are plenty of women these "lonely" men could have, but they choose not to. Why? Because they're NOT ATTRACTED TO THEM. Which is why I find it ironic that these men tell her to get in shape and work on herself (fair), but you tell men this, and it's, "that doesn't work, and women still won't date us, and nothing I ever do can fix it." It's excuses hold you all back.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:30 PM
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Amen. They want someone to be control and do their chores for them. That's what they're pissed off at. The women "out of heir league" won't put up with their bullshit unless she's getting something from it too. That's why I laugh when men say they want "to be loved for who they are."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:28 PM
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Not according to the comments. But we're talking about relationships here, and even with just one night stands, so could ugly, obese men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:25 PM
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My relationships works for both of us, and thats all that matters. We both clean, we both cook, we both work. Neither one of us wants children, thank god. Focus on yourself, find who wants you and what you want and stop focusing on on everyone else. Because at the end of the day, men and women all want different things and no one is the same. And no one knows all women or all men. Y'all truly make it harder than it has to be. Not all women want egalitarian relationships, not all men do. Find wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:47 PM
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Spontaneous, romantic things are chores for everyone. If you don’t want to be in a relationship, don’t be in one. That goes for everyone. Use your hand, don’t know what to tell you. You want something, you work for it. If you don’t want actual love and commitment, do not be in a relationship. Period. I don’t think anyone should do something they don’t like. You know what that’s called? Not compatible. The joy is, both parties can go and find someone who is. Imagine that, there are other fish in …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:23 PM
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The answer is yes. And that’s part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:32 PM
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Apparently no. This guy is stuck on Hotwives. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:14 AM
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In what world did anyone make a video and say you specifically are worthless? If she desires another group of men, that doesn’t concern you. She doesn’t want you. So go on and find someone else that does. Women are all different, everyone is different, no one has the same preferences verbatim. Women listen to people they care about, yes, but that’s something you and other men are going to have to get over.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:52 AM
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No it doesn’t, y’all just like to think it does. Stop trying to control all women and mind your business. What me and my partner do has no effect on you whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:46 AM
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So if women desire you, find your one and leave everyone else the hell alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:40 AM
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If you’re jealous, go be sexually liberated and stfu.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:36 AM
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Why shouldn’t they? That’s their business. Mind yours. What works for them, is their business.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:36 AM
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Again, you don’t know all women. But men aren’t very different either, all selfish cheaters, since we’re labeling a group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:35 AM
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Is that what you’re mad at? That you don’t have a big dick or something? Why do you care what a small set of women do? They have their own relationship dynamic. Find yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:34 AM
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They are women faking sex sir, that’s why we insist y’all don’t watch it, because it isn’t real, and you ruin your relationships and what you think a relationship should be, by doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:27 AM
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Which is exactly my point, all relationships and women are different. So you hate all women, because you can’t find one to desire you or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:24 AM
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That’s where they get majority of their statistics and info anyways, it seems like.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:15 AM
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Jesus son, I need you to point these women out to me, because they’re not representing ALL women, not even close to most.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:14 AM
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Because women desire who desires them. And for women to feel desired and for them to want to desire a man back, men have to actually put work in to pleasuring them, which a lot of men can be very selfish about, which is why I say, women don’t desire easily. They have to feel loved and like they’re attractive to desire someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:37 PM
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Could be laughing to be nice. But it may depend. Like someone below said, it may have nothing to do with you. Things are rough, depending on what people are going through. Is it always the same girl flaking?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:02 PM
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Is there anything you’re doing or saying that you can think is making them uncomfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:29 PM
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I mean, to be fair, I would ask you both the same questions. Distrust all day long, but leading with distrust isn't going to make relationships work, and that goes for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:30 PM
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A lot aren't, and have relationships. The key is to find someone who doesn't expect that of you, every relationship is different and people expect different things. As said before, men don't love women unconditionally either, so hey, we all have to bring something to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:28 PM
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He doe. That's the point, our relationship is great for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:13 PM
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I have a man? So no, I don't desire another man. Each relationship is different, not everyone is going to want sex, some people are asexual, some are into polyamory. I think their relationship is what they want, so it shouldn't matter what you or I think. Each man will be different and each women will be, thats why you find what is important to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:05 PM
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Are you alright? Everyone is different. Women desire who desires them, they desire sex in an emotional way. A man needing it 24/7 isn’t going to make us desire you anymore. Work on actually pleasuring your girl, then you’ll be alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:56 PM
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Most men won’t. Thats your opinion, you don’t know them. They’re happy and that’s all that matters. He’s a great guy, and they work well together.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:44 PM
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I mean, she tells him she’s not in to it like that. Every once in a while she will be. And he seems fine, so no, I don’t feel bad for him or her. It’s what they want. They communicate and that’s all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:38 PM
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No. It’s what she wants. That’s her lifestyle. I’m not going to rain on what someone wants my man. Because there’s just as many men that would love a stay at home wife. So that’s their business.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:35 PM
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Well that is where communication comes in. But everyone is bad at that nowadays. Probably true for some women, I mean yeah, I have a friend that doesn’t give a damn about sex at all, and would be a ok being a stay at home mom if the man made enough and she got to buy things. People are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:19 PM
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I completely agree. I wouldn’t want to have sex with someone just doing it just to do it. That’s why if I don’t desire to, I don’t. Who’s we? I’m not open to anything if I’m not getting pleasure from it, sorry. This whole debate is based on women not desiring men as much as they desire sex. A large argument is men want it more and women won’t do it just because. So your argument is based on what? Women that you met once?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:11 PM
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And most women aren’t going to be open if they don’t desire it. Just the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:02 PM
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Well yes, because Henry Cavill is a self-proclaimed nerd, but he also has other interests outside of this, and isn’t a full timer. It’s about balance, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:44 PM
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Depends on the woman and what she finds attractive. I’ve dated a comic book fan before. And as a gamer myself, a gamer that had his priorities in line, wouldn’t be too bad, but I don’t think I could ever date a full time gamer. Casual is fine. And I don’t think I could ever date someone who went to comic cons all the time and dressed up. Don’t know why, I just am not attracted to it. But again, depends on the woman, women aren’t cut and dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:42 PM
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Truly if both people are ok with it, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:35 PM
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Unfortunately. That’s why I’d rather just not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:45 PM
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🤣 I’m not much of a body horror person. I hate the substance, but your post had me rolling over laughing, so good job. :) But I agree, the question is so immature in a way, and it’s impossible to think about seriously, without these types of answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:14 PM
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As a woman, and partially answering because I asked him, I feel like me and mine are around about the same, but he probably wants / needs it a little more, but I don’t have to have it quite so much. My thing is, I don’t like feeling like it’s a chore that has to be done every day, then I don’t want to do it. So romantic spontaneity works wonders, but a lot of the time that doesn’t happen, so it doesn’t happen in general. Feeling like it’s a chore will ruin the libido for a woman faster than anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:56 PM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:49 PM
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I don’t think anyone should be mocked for a fear that they have by any means. But I feel like the worm question is just asking in an immature way I guess. But also, stop asking these questions. Especially when we already know, your partner will lie anyways to get what they want. You’re only going to make yourself upset. I feel like us as women unfortunately put ourselves in uncomfortable situations and deal with it in the end to try and force a happy ending, and truly we have to stop. Just go wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:48 PM
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If I had a man that I was incompatible with, I would just break up to be honest. Because he’s never going to be happy. Better to find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:38 PM
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Yeah I know. It’s unfortunate. You sound like an amazing mom, kudos to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:24 AM
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Honestly? Men and women are just different. Men for whatever reason want or need sex all the time. Women don’t, especially not when they’re not being pleasured on a regular basis. I truly don’t think there’s a way around it, other than you deal with it or break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:32 AM
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You said ‘if she wanted to, she would.’ Well ‘we don’t, so we won’t.’ Some of us want to be left alone (not speaking for all women). So leave us and go to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:17 AM
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So now do men understand why women don’t come out about their rapes? Because of things like this, or a man getting no time? So I’m going to hit you all with same thing you do women. What proof did he have? Does he have any? What if they are false? Why should her career and life be ruined? Why didn’t he speak up earlier? What was he wearing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:11 AM
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I replied to his comment, where I said if he didn’t want to help that was his right and he could be one, I didn’t outright call him one. I don’t have an attitude. I have my stance, and I won’t change it. Everyone should help, period. I don’t care about your gender wars. It’s exhausting, and I choose to be content in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:59 AM
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Great. Have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:52 AM
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Yeah, I’m not going to keep listening to people just argue just to do so. I said everyone should help as a human being, bottom line. No one knows everyone of the opposite gender, no one knows what everyone does. At the end of the day, you all make it harder than it has to be. No I wasn’t, because you don’t know me. I said it twice, because it’s not damn hard to do, and the argumentative person above me kept insisting I didn’t, because I’m a woman, so blame him if you want someone to blame. Again…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:49 AM
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By no means am I holier than thou. Like I said, everyone should be willing to help in an awful situation. People just like to make things harder than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:38 AM
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Jesus, I would trade places any day. Sign me up to be left tf alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:35 AM
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“Maybe it’s Maybelline” or maybe it’s both….
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:34 AM
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Well yes, a lack of confidence does usually deter a woman from a relationship. The violent misogynists a lot of times, aren’t violent and misogynists up front, they manipulate you first. Not that I agree with either one. I really wish women would stop entertaining either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:31 AM
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Then don’t date those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:29 AM
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Create your own group, who cares. The women’s group is used to deter women from entertaining or being with trash men, that all women need to stay from. If men could do this in an equal way, and maturely, then by all means.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:28 AM
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Do or don’t. That’s all people can choose to do. Don’t hang or talk to the women and men that don’t help. That’s the other thing people can do. I’ve spoke my piece, so have you. I hope you have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:23 AM
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And here in lies the problem, not you or I know every man or woman, so we don’t know what the majority of anyone does. Crazy how that works. Like I said, everyone should everyone, period. And if you don’t want to, continue being a jerk, and good people will know to stay away from those. I make things better for people every day. I watch out for people, I help when asked, I help when not asked. Everyone could learn to do the same. It’s a human quality. Or we can just continue to argue over who’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:05 AM
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I help everyone that needs help. Consider changing yourself and your mindset. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:49 AM
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I’m not trying to push for anything, it’s how I believe people should naturally be, but unfortunately people just want to fight so I’ll let them. Me and the women I know will help our way. Y’all continue to preach no men helping anyone. Somewhere someone will meet in the middle I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:48 AM
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Stand by what I said. You continue doing what you do. I’ll continue helping. We’re never going to agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:42 AM
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🤷🏻‍♀️ stand by what I said, I can only control myself and those in my inner circle, and people that don’t help aren’t in my inner circle, so….
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:39 AM
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My thing is, no one can tell which guy is good, that’s our problem to begin with. And when we recommend being done with men period, it’s unfair and we’re judging all men. Hell, I said everyone should intervene, and still got called a liar. 🤣 there’s no winning. No getting along. People just want to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:01 AM
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If I could choose some, I’d want them to look at them from a woman’s pov, and how we feel, but that seems to be asking a lot these days. So, In all honesty? None. Men and women see things in very different lights, and as much as I would love them to, I don’t think they’ll ever understand. I stopped trying with my male friends long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:54 AM
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In all honesty? None. Men and women see things in very different lights, and as much as I would love them to, I don’t think they’ll ever understand. I stopped trying with my male friends long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:52 AM
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No one’s attacked you. 🤣 I merely replied Sir you don’t know all women, but again, Like I said, your right to be the way you are. I’ll continue intervening and helping people. Have a good one. I don’t expect anything from men anymore, I know how they are. It’s all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:41 AM
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Gives me what I need or desire in a relationship, and that’s alright with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:38 AM
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There you go again, with all the women shit. Like I said everyone should intervene. You’re not going to agree, and that’s fine, you want to be a self-preserving asshole, that’s your right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:25 AM
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Equality is exactly what I said at the top. Learn to read EVERYONE SHOULD INTERVENE.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:11 AM
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Yes, let’s make things worse, that’s really smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:07 AM
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Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:06 AM
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You know how many men? 0. We all have statistics. I stand by what I said. Everyone should intervene.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:05 AM
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Hold your fellow men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:04 AM
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Stop putting your situations on all women. All women didn’t hurt you. Everyone should intervene, period. If you don’t want to be caring and helpful, learn to be tf alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:01 AM
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Did I say any different? Don’t believe I did. My comment was EVERYONE SHOULD INTERVENE.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:00 AM
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There’s de-escalating, there’s removing people from the situation. A lot can be done besides standing there and watching someone get hurt, harassed, attack, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:59 AM
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Disagree friend, but thats what opinions are for. People can choose to be selfish, I like my people kind and loving. But even selfish people have their tribe that agrees with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:39 AM
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If you have the evidence of it, then sure you have a right to post it. But to promote attacks isn't ok. On either side. Whoever said it shouldn't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:30 AM
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Glad the women were there to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:27 AM
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I don't agree with you tagging her and attacking her back, but I haven't seen any comments, so I can't reply or say anything to what I haven't read. All in all, everyone should help, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:26 AM
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That's what I'm asking. But apparently people are against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:22 AM
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I’m sorry that happened to you. Shouldn’t have. Everyone should help. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:36 AM
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If you took it personally, thats on you. We disagree, end of. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:06 AM
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Again, you said what I would avoid. So yes, I would avoid you. I don't like selfish people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:02 AM
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They very much are. I would absolutely help someone, with nothing expected in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:59 PM
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No, that's what you said. <It's my responsibility and nobody else's to save me. < I would rather be on my own in that scenario than to be labeled an a hole for not saving others randomly. So, if the shoe fits, then wear it. So yes I was talking to you, but also to anyone with your same mindset, I would not want them in my life, but you're allowed to be in other peoples.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:58 PM
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Hard disagree, but as I said, we're not going to agree. You go for profit, I go for people. We're very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:54 PM
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Someone who wouldn't help people, I would never be friends or otherwise with a person like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:53 PM
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We'll agree to disagree on this one. When it comes to morals and caring, doesn't have shit to do with what I can get out of it, nor trade. But you have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:53 PM
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Men aren't entitled to just any woman's time or relationship, and neither are women. Relationships aren't apart of my post. Nor are genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:50 PM
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I never said anything about women entitled to anything. I said ANYONE needs to help someone in a bad situation, period. Don't give a f**k about gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:49 PM
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Yeah, at that point no one is doing it to actually care and only doing it for the reward. I would avoid people like this in life, as they're generally greedy and the kind to f**k you over to get ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:47 PM
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Work on yourself, you'll find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:37 PM
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I think every human is under obligation to care about other human lives, but apparently thats where society has gone wrong. If you want something for helping someone, it isn't helping, and I'd rather avoid you all together as well, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:36 PM
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And we know who to avoid all together. Thank you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:34 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:33 PM
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Using the word should, means I would hope people wouldn't stand by and watch as someone gets attacked, raped or otherwise.... but hey, there are assholes in the world, so at least we can spot them when something happens so we know who to avoid all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:31 PM
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No one's entitled to anyone's anything. It's about making sure someone doesn't get hurt. If you don't want to help, stay in your corner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:26 PM
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Well thats the point of my comment. So duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:25 PM
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Well they are humans, so yeah I feel like people should care for other people, but hey, I might be an odd one out. At least the decent people will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:22 PM
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If someone is getting attacked, harassed, etc.? Seriously? It's so another fellow human being doesn't get hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:21 PM
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I think ANYONE should be able to tell when something is off, and should intervene. But thats just my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:15 PM
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I disagree with either side dating DRASTICALLY out of their age range for the record.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:13 PM
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Take your misogynistic bullshit on somewhere. No one wants to listen to it, or has to listen to the opinions of a poor parented pos.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:43 PM
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Why are you dating women 25 years younger than you? What went wrong in your life that you date 20 year olds? Man child. Sorry. Just my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:38 PM
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🤦🏻‍♀️ and yet they complain about those too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:53 PM
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Then don’t date? 🤷🏻‍♀️ it’s simple. If women are so boring, why continue to date them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:25 PM
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Sir, it’s weird. I’ve seen many people say how weird he is. He’s a 51 year old man child. Maybe it just isn’t your circle mentioning it. But he is friends with Leo so who is really shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:24 PM
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Amen to that. Can’t help someone that isn’t willing to be helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:20 PM
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I try to understand the ones that actually want a solution and I have empathy for them... but then you have the ones who choose to blame women's standards and how they should lower them, etc. and I just have to say ok and move on. There isn't anything I can do about a lot of it, but I try to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:07 PM
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Then OP's logic is flawed, and yet again, people are not cut and dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:06 PM
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Funnily enough, I know a lot of women who have the same opinion I do. Just unfortunately there are bad seeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:56 AM
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And I don’t like men that aren’t unmotivated, just depends on what you want or what you find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:02 PM
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No. I think unfortunately neither side wants to get along, a lot of people just like to argue instead of try to come to a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:55 PM
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There's literally moments she begs him to kill her, she also came back in to her body when they were making out, and the other "entity" took it back over. He becomes aware of the fact she is inside the body, and ignores it, it's why viewers say he is a rapist. He ignores every plea and call she makes. Just like when she asks to be killed and he says "what's so bad about being with me..." F**king everything when you're that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:36 AM
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I mean hard disagree, especially with what we were given in the movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:19 AM
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It works, just have to find the right one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:13 AM
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No he’s not, at all. And that’s not even the reason he is disliked later or why he’s considered a rapist, unlike what this op seems to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:51 AM
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The reason he was a rapist was because even after finding out it wasn’t her, he continued. Being unattractive (which Michael very much is not) doesn’t make you a rapist, being a pos does, therefore he is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:50 AM
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Disagree. When you find out new information, you’re allowed to take that empathy back or adjust it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:36 PM
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I’m not going to change what I believe if that’s what you’re wanting. Like I said, sorry you’re dealing with what you are, I hope it changes. That’s all I have to give friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:52 PM
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Me neither but empathy isn’t apart of that. Empathy is feeling bad for how someone is feeling, but when the person’s only solution that they want is “you need to like people that aren’t attractive to you” I kind of lose any empathy I have. Still feel bad it’s happening, but not willing to listen to it any longer. Which is fair, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:51 PM
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I said I personally feel this way. I already told you I was sorry you were going through it and hoped it got better and you wanted to continue the conversation despite what I have already stated. Like I said, sorry you are going through it. I hope it gets better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:46 PM
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Ehhh, never happened to me. But I’ll live. Maybe one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:35 PM
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I personally feel like your attitude of yourself would be more off putting than what you think you look like, to be honest. But hey, what do I know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:35 PM
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Damn… maybe I’m doing it wrong. Do I possibly need to settle for someone I’m not attracted to and force him in to becoming everything I want and more? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:34 PM
1

I don't believe genetics can be changed either but there are situations and traits that can be. But in the end, I am sorry you feel this way and you're dealing with it. I hope it gets better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:15 PM
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Not when I am being told to change who I am and how I date, no I don't have any. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:05 PM
1

I mean, I don't see anyone hating. I don't hate anyone. I did try to say this in a previous post on here, and was told by multiple men (not you obviously) that if I wanted to help I could "change my perception on life and how I see men..." So maybe I took it as they wanted me to change my habits.... I also guess maybe I just don't see any point in continuing to complain instead of doing something about it? Maybe that's where people come off wrong, because people to be fair, don't have much empat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:04 PM
6

I am too honestly. With how many men I’ve seen say Bear was actually a hero, I expected this bull a lot earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:07 AM
1

My bad, that’s what your post sounded like. But even with that, there are emotional needs women need that also kind of goes against your post. At the end of the day, you just need to wait it out and find someone that’s with you on those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:07 AM
13

🤦🏻‍♀️ leave it to men to miss the point f**king entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:02 AM
1

So now women don’t care enough about the elite men who yeah you’re right we can do nothing about. But you not getting a woman, is a skill based problem that you’re responsible for fixing. No one is mocking you, I feel sorry for guys who claim to have this problem. But it’s a problem only they can fix. Women are not responsible for dating someone they’re not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:36 AM
1

Well it’s that, or hold out for a robot in a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:40 PM
3

So… you want her to work, and do the house work and cook, and childcare? Seems like you’ll have a hard time with that one. But hey, hold out long enough you’ll find your person or a robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:36 PM
1

Don’t see it impacting that much, but hey, what do I know? There’s things men can do, they just don’t wanna do them. I hope you all find someone you’re looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:35 PM
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I guess my point through it all, would be nothing can fix it for men, unless they fix themselves, or develop a liking to life until their preferred person comes along, or forced marriage is what some seem to want. I’d say the same thing to women going through the same thing. No amount of study is going to fix someone’s choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:25 PM
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Damn, guilty. I’m holding out for what I want. Apologize for holding up the dating scene I guess. I don’t think anything is fixing it anytime soon though unfortunately. A lot of it on women’s side has to do with fear and wanting someone they actually like. On top of that, women not having to settle to have a credit card and to be able to buy a house, also affected it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:15 PM
0

Again, different experiences friend. Take it and go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:50 PM
2

Yes I know, "men would be ok with anything." Hell that's probably part of their problem, that and they aren't honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:49 PM
1

Everyone is to be treated with respect period. You just aren't owed extras just because. You aren't owed a date, but you are owed a kind rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:20 PM
3

Men don’t want women they don’t find attractive approaching them either. Seriously, who does? Why would anyone want someone they aren’t attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:02 PM
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Doesn’t happen often, but it happens enough. Oddly enough I’ve never seen a woman react the way you’re describing, but apparently you’ve never seen a man react the way I’m describing, so I guess it’s just a matter of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:00 PM
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Yes, with people who actually want them or want to be in one with that person. We're saying not to put emphasis on it, not having one is not a bad thing, nor should it be looked down upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:41 PM
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They wouldn't, otherwise they wouldn't be complaining so much. They are just complaining that women like better looking, more confident, interesting men, and they aren't willing to better themselves to be seen by the women they want. So, they would rather complain that ALL WOMEN don't want them and need gender studies. No Gender Studies needed, we KNOW men are the least desirable gender. But it still does not change the fact I am still not going to pity date or date someone I am unattracted to, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:49 PM
6

I haven't had a relationship in 6 years. Eventually it'll happen, but I'm not going to blame other people for it, nor am I going to be unhappy because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:43 PM
2

Everyone just likes to argue is what I have came to a conclusion on. Men only like hot women, women only like hot men. We know this. It's the biggest duh I have seen in a long minute. There is no solution for it, except to keep trying and find who likes you that you also like. But, people like to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:42 PM
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It's why I dont try to "empathize" anymore. You get told we don't understand, and the only way to fix it is to be with average men that we aren't attracted to. I finally had to tell a bunch of men to just stay miserable I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:34 PM
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Amen, I just wish everyone would stop putting such an emphasis on relationships. I get wanting one, but you can be perfectly fine and happy without one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:32 PM
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Crazy, I've never threatened to kill a man because he said no. But maybe you're right, maybe somewhere out there some women have acted irrationally. But to be clear, they have a right to feel sad or upset, just like you do if you get rejected. What both sides don't have the right to do, is try to convince them after they've done said no, or being violent, that we agree on. Yes, I am also talking about rejections from first time encounters. No one has to say yes, or has to "try it out" if they'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:29 PM
1

Nope, nor do I care anymore. So have a good one. Take your complaints to someone who will listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:19 AM
1

Damn, no wonder you aren't receiving any offers... you're quite the narcissi aren't you? Like I said, take advice or don't, those are the two options you have. You don't have to listen to me, doesn't change anything. Whatever you're seeking, hope you find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:14 AM
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Sure, and I am allowed to tell you, that'll you won't get the solution you're seeking without work on your part, my friend. I'm sorry you're struggling, I hope it gets better for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:05 AM
2

They could be, it just depends. You're really not going to get a straight answer unfortunately. I suggest the social places because that's where I'd be most comfortable with it, but you're not wrong, I guess if some girl was hanging out with friends, she might be less likely to be ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:04 AM
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Clubs, bars, places where they’re actually trying to meet someone. If you want to compliment a girl in passing somewhere else, that’s a different story, that’s when she takes the compliment and thinks about it for the rest of the day and smiles. Those are nice. But, trying to “get at her” is reserved for social places for most women. Or at least when they’re not doing chores like grocery shopping or out to dinner with girlfriends, or at the gym working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:11 PM
1

I mean, it doesn’t concern me either way if someone besides myself has options or not. That’s for them to come to terms with or fix. I’m just trying to find someone to love without sacrificing my morales and things I want. As should anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:08 PM
1

🤣 I mean I am bi. So I have the option of a happy ever after thank god.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:04 PM
1

I don’t approach men because the 3 times I did, I got insulted for even thinking I was attractive to them. So I just gave up and said if he likes me, he’ll talk to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:04 PM
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Being blunt and direct isn’t the same as sharing your feelings. Men’s version of being blunt and direct, A LOT of times, comes off rude and sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:03 PM
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Usually it’s just what we’re attracted to. Some people like skinny dudes that wear eye liner like my sister. I like Jacob Elordi, and some other conveniently attractive men. I don’t think anyone really knows why. You just like how they look. 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:53 PM
1

Guess there’s no way around it then. Just be alone or be gay are the only choices I have. 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:51 PM
1

Some women sure. Some women don’t care. I don’t care what you do. My issue is you being honest about it. Don’t lie to a girl who wants a relationship if that’s all you’re wanting. Be upfront and honest. Wait for someone that also wants just casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:49 PM
1

Except men want sex right away, and women want to wait until there's a connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:16 PM
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Which is why I said we'll never come to an agreement. Because just having sex isn't something at least I as a woman is willing to do... maybe some other girl, but there has to be connection there for most. At least I have the option of women, thank God.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:12 PM
1

As a bi-woman, I agree. But I like men too, just wish they care more like women, if that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:44 PM
1

That's what I am saying. I don't judge, nor do I have an issue with it. The dishonesty is what I have an issue with, and this goes with guys wanting casual sex too. It's not the casual sex that I have an issue with, it's being dishonest about wanting a relationship and hurting someone because you don't want the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:14 PM
1

I mean, no one wants to be alone, so I definitely sympathize with that as I’ve been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:05 AM
1

Oh I agree 100%. I don't think people should be compromising their values just to have someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:24 AM
3

Those are all great values to have, I like that. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:37 AM
1

Very fair ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:36 AM
1

I have no issue with criticizing, doesn't mean you or I are right or wrong either way. I gave advice, you can take it or not. At the end of the day, if you want to continue complaining and dont want things to change, you're allowed that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:36 AM
4

All different issues, none less important than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:34 AM
1

I hate that. Neither have I to be fair. But I am moving soon, so hoping it changes things up a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:32 AM
6

Sad place to be. For both sides. Hate that anyone has to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:28 AM
2

And neither are solving anything, but as long as they can find happiness with themselves, I guess that's all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:27 AM
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Girl, amen. Watching my family give up majority of their life for kids, made me not want children for the most part. I just keep seeing more and more reasons not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:26 AM
4

I fully support both. I guess I just think it's better than being unhappy if you can't find happiness being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:20 AM
1

I'm saying you can add to what you already are if what you currently are isn't working. Of course you are good enough as is, but you may have to wait longer, all I am saying is you can speed it up per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:17 AM
1

I'm happy you are. :) Thank God someone is having success in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:15 AM
5

You're absolutely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:14 AM
0

That's a fair thing to want. I can understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:14 AM
1

And in the prompt, it was asked, "what are you genuinely wanting to happen?" Since empathy isn't what you actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:13 AM
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Thank you for understanding what I was asking, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:12 AM
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Not interested. For one, I have no interest sleeping with someone I don't have deep feelings for yet, but that's just me. I also wouldn't be with someone who has other people lined up, that's disrespectful to myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:11 AM
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This is very true too. Women have to be attracted to said person who is asking, that's very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:08 AM
1

Beautifully said. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:07 AM
1

That’s what I’m saying, like what else are you wanting besides women just pity dating you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:09 AM
1

Thank God.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:08 AM
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You just grew from that experience. There’s nothing wrong with that, you found what you like in dating. It’s a normal thing. Just unfortunately some men will say things when you’re not bowing down to the man’s wants. It’s not all thank god.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:58 PM
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No I don’t. Because I was genuinely answering back. Do you have anything better to do than argue about something you’re assuming?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:56 PM
1

Considering it depends on the individual. Those are assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:55 PM
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Genuinely asking because I’m curious. Can you give me an example of both?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:42 PM
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Have never seen that study. But sure, I’ll take your word for it considering there’s no backing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:38 PM
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And like I said. Go be with a sex worker, or be one. The key is honesty. I won’t be with someone who was one or was with one, but I’m sure some women will and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:36 PM
1

That’s misogyny. Us being pregnant is a net loss, don’t get a girl pregnant. Majority of us don’t want children now anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:35 PM
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This and the guy before you are the only responses where I’ve said anything less than a genuine conversation because you attacking me over one sarcastic prick, yes it pissed me off. Like I said, go talk to him if you want. I’m not entertaining him being a smartass because he isn’t genuine. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:32 PM
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It’s about 60/40 to be honest. 60 being physicality, 40 being personality. But I will say the personality can ruin the physical very easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:29 PM
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I say if you want a sex worker or want to be one, go for it. Just be honest if you ever want a future partner, in case they don’t want this associated with them or they don’t agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:28 PM
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I agree 100%. I feel like that is the smartest move.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:25 PM
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You don’t have a right to someone’s time just because you like them friend. Nor do you get to take them on a date if you don’t meet their standards. Women have a right to have a job if they are equally good at that job. Welcome to the world. You don’t get everything you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:25 PM
3

That I can understand and sympathize with. Thank you for your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:23 PM
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How are we privileged when we do in fact risk getting killed and raped though? That’s a genuine question by the way. Because I’m not saying men don’t have issues with dating, of course they do. The problem is, men just simply want someone for sex and desire. And women have higher standards. That I agree with. But women still do have different issues, don’t think either one is way worse really, just different. One is life-threatening, one sucks because it’s harder for you to find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:21 PM
2

In fact, next time one of these conversations get brought up on purple pill. I’ll tag you, so you can see how men take a woman say “sounds rough dude.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:17 PM
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That’s not a solution. But sure, I’ll try that next time, and let them continue to feel sorry for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:16 PM
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I’m curious about what actually genuine men are wanting. Again, not a sarcastic prick trying to say women should choose him. Girl I’ve had plenty of good conversations with genuine guys that were both enjoying. You found the one prick who’s d**k you seem to want to fuck, and want to defend him? Go talk to him. Give him what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:15 PM
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I like that. Amazing answer. Have you had any luck? Genuinely asking as some one that hasn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:11 PM
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My point is, him complaining doesn’t help him. Except to feel bad about himself. But yes, if you want to continue complaining, that is your prerogative. But doing it in a DEBATE forum is kind of defeating the purpose when people are telling you, hey be happy anyways, or change. I think that’s when I would just take my woes to my journal and be alone. Because complaining to women about “be less picky” is the same thing men say women should stop complaining about, which is “the bar is in hell.” Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:10 PM
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Well there’s no other solution animal. That’s the point. The solution they’re wanting is for women to date them anyways. I’m not going to lie to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:07 PM
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Not even the same thing. But you want empathy? Ok here. “Yes, women should absolutely date you to pity you and in spite of the fact they do not find you attractive in the slightest, develop a relationship with you. I’m so sorry you’re unattractive, and not up to par of whatever woman you’re wanting. How dare these women not find you attractive. They’re absolutely insane, person I’ve never met in my life. Next one you like, I’ll meet you and we can tie her down and throw her in the back of your t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:05 PM
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Are their answers in good faith? He’s being a sarcastic prick. That much is obvious. I’m not going to genuinely listen to a sarcastic prick’s selfishness. Nor should women have to choose someone they don’t want. You want to? Be my guest. They’re not going to find a solution if they aren’t considering both sides. Women aren’t play things, they’re not going to choose someone they don’t find attractive to them. And forcing a relationship makes EVERYONE unhappy. Me offering advice about bettering yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:02 PM
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Your argument isn’t even remotely the same thing. But thank you for proving misogyny is still alive and well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:59 PM
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I absolutely love this. This is what I think too. When you look for it, you find the wrong person or you wind up not finding what you’re looking for. Forcing things doesn’t work. I’m so happy you found what you were looking for. I hope we all find this one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:58 PM
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Become above average. Thats the best solution. That doesn’t infringe on someone else’s right to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:52 PM
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That’s part of their issue, they put too much emphasis on sex and then cheat later and hurt the girl because they decide they’re not in love with the person. It’s fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:51 PM
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Well I guess you’re doomed to be single until you can find someone willing to do this. Personally I’m starting to think men should be with men and women should be with women. We obviously want different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:51 PM
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To be honest, I was most asking the men who keep complaining about women not choosing average men. But I appreciate your answers too. It’s honestly nice to read a response that isn’t “sex.” Or some smart ass just being a smart ass. lol. I agree. I guess it all comes down to what someone is willing to sacrifice. Which isn’t a lot in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:48 PM
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Ok, explain one. You want to be automatically matched to someone where both people are unhappy? You want to take away someone body autonomy? What? I’m asking but yall aren’t saying anything. So I’m going to guess you want to take away women’s choice, and that isn’t happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:44 PM
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Keep trying. One will find you attractive back. Just be their type of attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:41 PM
2

Do I think people should be hired based on experience? Yes. But there gender inequality’s with certain jobs. Date women you don’t usually date. People aren’t required to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:40 PM
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Well the problem is, you still have to be attracted to the person. I guess the real solution for men would be to automatically be matched to someone like a dystopia. But then there lies the issue of the woman actually wanting to be there, and women don’t want to be in Handsmaid Tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:34 PM
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Women want the same, well most. I’m not talking about extremes who want money, but there are extremes in men too. So what you’re describing is the normal imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:27 PM
2

I just continue to work on myself so I can make myself above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:26 PM
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Because average people are still not meeting standards that the other person has set. It’s a waiting game for us average people. My standards are high, so I just wait until I can find that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:26 PM
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Well that’s because women want to actually be loved. A lot of men don’t care one way or another. That’s where you have to be willing to hold on until you find someone that wants the same as you. Or you have to change your desires and be willing to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:22 PM
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I hate it feels like that for you. I get that. I’m the same way, and have been for 7 years so I understand. I feel like it’s always the best ones that get overlooked, but I do feel like we’ll win in the end. I know that isn’t the best pep talk, but it’s what I tell myself when I get lonely or upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:21 PM
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So you want to be able to get a prostitute in replacement of not being desirable to the women you like? I mean, I’m all for sex positivity, so if that’s what makes a man happy, go for it. As long as everyone is honest about their intentions, I see no harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:18 PM
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Ok let me reword. Because everything you’re describing is unfortunately a society issue and there isn’t much I can do about that. What do you want women to do? I’ve seen be understanding, which is all fine and good, but it doesn’t change anything which is why I give the advice I do about changing yourself. When it comes to women who expect too much from men and are the “dating bedwetter types” I can’t do much about her either. I don’t befriend people like that, so that’s all I really can do, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:14 PM
3

Absolutely yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:03 PM
4

Then date a man? Or be straight up and tell which ever woman you're able to get to screw you, that you don't want a relationship. I'd have more respect if they did. But don't waste women's time when you don't want anything of substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:01 PM
4

Why don't men just increase their standards, problems solved. Both sides have to be willing to level up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:00 PM
4

I agree, but I was trying to have "empathy" since I apparently don't have any. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:58 PM
4

Yep. That's my issue too. If you actually wanted anyone, you wouldn't be so damn picky, at least I as a woman can tell a man straight up that no I probably wouldn't date you because I am not attracted. They are just mad women that are their type per se won't give the "good guys" the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:55 PM
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Accepting it doesn't change what we find attractive though. Asking us to basically say men are least desirable, isn't going to make us want any of them any more. We'll still want what attracts us. At that point, you'll play on the heart strings of women who care too much, and they'll date you because they pity you, but it sounds like a lot of men would be ok with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:53 PM
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You have to find the one that wants you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:51 PM
4

From what I've read they're "ok with anyone." So I'm betting he'd agree... my thing is, who is actually happy in this arrangement? No one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:51 PM
5

And this is why there isn't any solution to these problems. You'll never be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:50 PM
2

There are gender studies in College. And if that's what is important to you sure. But saying men are the least desirable gender, yeah it's true, I'll agree with that, but at the end of the day, it doesn't and won't change anything about the outcome. Women will till choose their mates based on what they find attractive, you just have to wait for the one that finds you attractive specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:48 PM
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In order to get that with women, you have to develop a connection. Most of the time. I'm not going to say some women won't just give you a one night stand, I'm sure you could get it if you tried people who don't want love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:47 PM
0

Sorry, in another sub they're pissed off and I misconstrued what you typed. Lol. That was my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:23 PM
1

Try harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:16 PM
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The question is, who are you to say she is delusional? Especially if the man also shows interest. People just like who they like dude. You should do the same. Go after your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:09 PM
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I agree. I wish more women did notice things or asked tiny questions to dodge bullets, but for some reason they wait until they’re living together to then be like, oh my god he isn’t what I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:47 PM
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Disagree. But everyone’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:44 PM
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As a woman, you aren’t going to straight up ask questions that send him running in two seconds, but I do agree as you go along women should start to notice things and realize this may be hell if it continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:38 PM
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Sure. Everyone has a right to try. It’s what they do after that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:35 PM
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I said, you can approach whenever. But you have to be ok with possibly being rejected. There are days where I don’t feel like getting hit on, and I probably will say no. Women are humans, we aren’t going to be ok all the time. I say shoot your shot, but again, you have to be ok with taking a no and moving on if it happens. And if it does work, great. But it’s not going to work all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:32 PM
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Same here. And some men have a very hard time taking rejection. It’s why women choose to be nice and then ghost after because it’s better than getting killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:27 PM
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I don’t. I go about my day, stay single, have friends, go out, have fun, live my life. I have hope one day I’ll find who I’ve been waiting on, but until then, I don’t expect anyone to like me just because I’m me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:25 PM
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I promise you they are. Unless you’ve had every lived experience, which you haven’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:12 PM
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I have problems dating. Everyone does. It’s just something you deal with and make yourself happy until you find the one. There’s not much you can do. Sorry you’re going through whatever it is friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:05 PM
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BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T WANT TO GIVE UP HER EXISTENCE BURNER. Why risk something you truly love for something you don't fucking know is going to be worth it or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:46 PM
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Precisely why a lot of women don't want to have them, because they aren't worth the risk. I'm truly happy you enjoy yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:44 PM
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That's the rare cases, that's part of men's and women's issues is they put a few examples of the opposite gender on EVERYONE. Not every girl wants a rich guy, some do, some want them to make an equal amount of money, you just have to find what you're attracted to and looking for. Women wait for it, instead of settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:42 PM
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That's when you go look for someone that has your standards, putting women down for what they want isn't helping. You go after what you want too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:40 PM
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The risk you have to take is someone not being in to you. You are perfectly good enough how you are, barring the extreme cases of course. But you still have to find your match, because women are still trying to find theirs too. So yes, people are going to tell you if you want someone specific to "level up" because that woman is looking for something specific. That doesn't mean there isn't someone out there, that isn't looking for someone just like you right now. Just have to find her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:38 PM
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I agree with the other women, it's how and when and where you all decide to approach. If you ask at the gym and I am in the midst of a workout, one it's going to come off creepy because you starting while I am at the gym in workout attire, kind of gives me the vibe you are only asking because of my body and it's a turn off. The grocery store does depend, some women don't have good grocery store stories, some do, it's all a matter of maybe or maybe not. You can try, but their mood going in to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:32 PM
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Brad Pitt would absolutely get sent in to traffic because he's a heinous human being. Also, man does not look decent anymore and hasn't since he cheated on Jennifer Aniston.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:17 PM
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Well yes, women aren't going to just date you for the hell of it. We do have to be attracted to you. This is where you take the L and go to the next person. It could've also been like LadyLana said, they're lesbian or in a relationship, but it's still a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:15 PM
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Precisely, and unfortunately they don't rear their ugly head until after it's here. To some of motherhood sure, but to a lot of it, oh absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:11 PM
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Pregnancy and motherhood in itself makes women lose theirselves. They're not the same, we don't get to go out "with the girls" and still have fun or live life, our lives are just children 24/7., unless you can hire a nanny and have money, then you can be absent from your children all the time and be judged. We also don't get help a lot of the time. I watched my mom be alone in her pregnancy and raising my sister, it's agonizing and heart-wrenching. It made me have the decision to never have chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:01 PM
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There's nothing wrong with feeling empathy, but empathy doesn't include people we don't feel that way for the hell of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:56 PM
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A negotiation doesn't consider attraction and feelings, both of which are needed to want someone, at least for women. You can't force someone to like you if they don't my friend. I can understand trying a date as some people do, but if you're not compatible, no one is going to stick around and be unhappy just for the sake of not being lonely. No, I don't like analogies because analogies of non-human objects literally offer nothing to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:51 PM
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I mean, if y'all don't want nothing to do with the kids, I don't care if you don't pay child support. Just leave women tf alone. Child support is something you'll have to take up with society and the government and your non-partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:45 PM
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Don't really care. We each are allowed our opinions, such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:40 AM
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I disagree, simple as that. You just don't want to take that advice and want to continue being a victim. It's your life, be unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:35 AM
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Then don't reply and don't complain, hope you find what you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:23 AM
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You are allowed to want a relationship, but what you're not allowed to do is expect women to lower their standards to fix it for you. Find the one that wants you, or don't, those are the choices you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:11 AM
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Then you'll have no solution. But hey, don't take the advice and continue victimizing yourself, whatever works for you. Good conversation there Brian.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:03 AM
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Not sure what you're wanting then friend? Gave you advice, you can better yourself and become what you want to attract or you can wait for someone to come to you. Genuinely not knowing what you want women to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:58 AM
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Glad to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:59 AM
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No arguments here, I gave up on dating apps years ago when all I got were men looking for one night stands. I don't think dating apps are ideal for anyone to find true love on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:17 AM
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Women do tell women to deal with it, all the time, I don't know what men you have met, but if you have that kind of friend group, bless you. When has society actually bent over backwards for women? When we finally got to have credit cards and houses without marrying a man? Sure, we became equal technically. But women still get raped at an alarming basis and men get away with it, women get killed by their partners and the question is what did she do, society doesn't like either side fairly and it…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:15 AM
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The best thing you can do, is find someone that makes you happy, hope they like you back, with work you're wiling to do, I bet you they will, and be happy. That's all any one can do. No one is changing any one's opinions in society, not even society's. If that could happen, women wouldn't still being raped and not believed, gay and trans people wouldn't be getting killed, etc., etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:09 AM
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What social issues? You keep saying women aren't willing to have relationships with average men, no shit, we aren't attracted to them sometimes, and it's no ones fault, but no one, not even men should be in a relationship with someone they aren't happy or content in, just to say they're not lonely. So call it out, I call out men that I see, call out women. Not all women are doing it, not all men are, maybe calling them out will fix it, but I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:06 AM
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Dude, I explained my point, said my peace, literally just said I was replying to your statements because you sounded confused and super pissed, hell I was confused. I'm not going to continue entertaining it. We agreed, if you can't let it go, go fixate on another conversation with someone else. Have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:59 AM
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Because if a woman dates him while not being attracted to him, it causes resentment or they're not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:54 AM
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It's not the preference, it's how men word it or put women down that is the misogyny issue. If men were just like hey, you're not my type and went about their day, that's no one's fault but you can reject someone and be kind, and men have an issue with that for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:53 AM
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This depends on the woman, that is both sides problem, you say all women are saying men are misogynistic, but it's not women saying this, just like not all men are attacking women for not wanting to be housewives. Don't be attracted to whoever and don't date someone you don't want to date, it's a really simple solution. Women aren't going to date someone they are not attracted to for the hell of it. Just like I dont believe men shouldn't either. The issue lies when men down women they're not att…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:47 AM
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So... you want women to lower their standards to date average men? Like in all honesty, who gives a damn if a girl wants to be alone, if she wants to wait for whatever reason, or doesn't want to settle? Why does that bother you so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:42 AM
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Because I was literally replying, and you kept acting like you missed the point? Not how I seen it but hey, that's your debate with her, doesn't mean I am going to join. Dude, I quite literally agree, and don't care who states it, both should state what they want and if they're not compatible move on, I was literally replying to your comments, it's how a conversation works. My issue is only when men say this, then when a woman either states what she wants, she's put down for her wants, instead o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:38 AM
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I haven't been mad this entire time, I am trying to figure out what has you so mad? We literally agreed multiple times but you wanted to keep arguing semantics because a girl had different needs that I am not going to debate over? Because quite literally we both agree women and men alike had the right to want what they want and do what they want, and other than that move on? I haven't even seen a "sisterhood" to argue for or against, because again Yves was stating her preference, which quite lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:26 AM
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Why does that piss you off so bad? It literally depends on the woman or man? Women are allowed to want to be chased, men are allowed to want to as well, both are allowed to say they don't want to reciprocate and what to be the center of attention. That's when they're not compatible. What is so hard to see about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:22 AM
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I agree, you definitely don't know how to discuss anything without getting pissed off for whatever reason. God help that girl, or any girl for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:18 AM
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Go get her then, and leave everyone else tf alone. You might be happier that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:15 AM
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I was agree to disagreeing on men wanting king treatment, yes men do want this without doing the same for women, but it is a case by case basis, like I said. Obviously NOT ALL MEN. What YvesGrey said FITS HER RELATIONSHIP NEEDS. I'm not going to tell her she's wrong for wanting or needing what she says she does. Same goes for you. You want someone to reciprocate, tell them that, or don't and stop dating, whatever fits your mold.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:14 AM
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Then stop? If you don't want kids and a wife, don't settle. I'd tell women the same, don't settle. That's how men and women alike wind up on Snapped and Unsolved Mysteries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:10 AM
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Same goes for you my friend. Like I said, there are clear solutions, you just don't want them. Be up front, tell your dates, if it doesn't fit your needs, don't do it. Simple. Everyone wins or loses, you go about your business and find someone new, such is the act of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:08 AM
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Agree to disagree on that, but if reciprocation is what you want, tell your date that and stfu. Everyone has a right to their wants and needs, and if you don't meet them, you're not compatible, end of. Glad we could agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:06 AM
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They haven't said anything wrong, they've said the same thing I have. You just seem to want a woman to bow down and admit, yes women need to lower their standards, and no, sorry don't agree with it. Go better yourself and find something happy in life. And for godsakes, stop victimizing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:04 AM
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Awesome, finally. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:02 AM
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Bottom Line: Do what makes you happy, and leave everyone else alone. It isn't hard. You can decline things you don't want as much as women can. Compromise and change for things and people you do want, it's how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:57 PM
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You were debating? What the fuck do you mean? You started saying bullshit in your comments about "women need to get with the program." No one needs to get with shit, go after what you want and stfu.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:50 PM
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A lot of men will do it. If you don't feel like it, don't. Be upfront and if she doesn't want to pay, you both go about your business and try again with someone else. It's how dating works, you're not going to be compatible with everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:35 PM
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Not if she is also working, that's what the housemaid is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:31 PM
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Yes, I am. Because it is. Literally a case by case point. As are most things. Things are used against women too, and again, it is a case by case basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:31 PM
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I don't think anyone should be treated like royalty if they're not reciprocating, sorry. That's not an equal relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:29 PM
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Except like I said it's not a false narrative, it's a case by case basis. The best thing men can do is stop comparing themselves to all men, and go after what you want and change if needed to get it. Same for women. But I truly hope you find what you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:04 PM
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Both are true depending on case by case basis though, and majority of people are going to speak in their lived experience. Doesn't mean either is right or wrong, just means they have unique experiences. What is the alternative? Forcing women to do the same so they settle for men want? Does that sound better? No it doesn't, to anyone. Which is why I said, go after what you as a man want, and let women do the same, find your "yoked person" or what the hell ever people say. There's no alternative t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:30 PM
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What narrative exactly? That men reject women at the same rate? It's not a narrative it's true, both that and the fact women and men don't like average people can be true at the same time. But yes, I will be the first one to tell a man that asks, yeah hey, we're not compatible, you aren't desirable to me, don't worry. I'd disagree with that, but I'm not really arguing about men's preferences. I'll agree they settle because they can't afford one, that's where resentment comes in to play. No one i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:11 PM
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Depends, but they also do more blue collar or bulk work. Which is why I said, if he makes more, he should take on the more expensive bills, and whoever makes least should pay the least expensive bills, that way every one gets to save and put away their fair share of spending and/or emergency funds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:35 PM
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Men tend to have higher paid positions for one. But I have never said anything about men providing shit. That's up to the couple's dynamics. Not mine. I have no issues splitting bills based on what he makes and then what I make, and yes I would rather hire a housekeeper, and then cook together. It's called an equal lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:30 PM
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So you want women to admit to you that you're not desirable in the least to them? I mean I agree that a lot of women aren't going for short men, or men of average looks because that isn't our standard, but its also true that men aren't looking for commitment unless it fits in their bounds. Unless women are willing to be "housewives" or willing to let their men cheat openly, men are very skeptical to commitment. A lot would just rather avoid relationships at all, and I'd rather them be upfront ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:28 PM
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Most women agree with that dude. Go find who wants you, no one is stopping you. Women not wanting you because you don't want to work for a relationship is fair, just like you wanting a woman to be ok with you as an average person is fair, just to the right people. No one is arguing against you. Me and YveisGrey just want someone to work for a relationship and not expect king treatment for nothing. In the end we just have different needs. That's not "women not getting with the program." That's so…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:22 PM
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You need to be content with yourself first. Do I want a man to want me? Of course. But I don't think need is the right thing for any one. Needing someone puts you at risk. Meaning you can't survive on your own, and god forbid something happens after 35 years together, a mental breakdown will ensue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:14 PM
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What else is there? Genuinely asking. Be who you want to attract. Stop expecting people to change and be lower for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:05 PM
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They do tend to settle down with top tier women, but men somewhat value how many women they can bag before that, for whatever reason. I've never understood it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:59 PM
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Good, I'm happy for you. That's how everyone should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:53 PM
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You just did, "Women seem to have an issue getting with the program though."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:52 PM
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Up your worth, don't know what to tell you. Women want more attractive men, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:39 PM
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Why should women change what they want to please you, though? I don't think either should, you should find someone who wants what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:28 PM
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So, what would you rather the advice be? Go out, meet friends, take care of yourself, go to the gym, attempt to make conversation, become desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:11 PM
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No, you don't have to work for a relationship you as a man obviously don't want, you have that option, just as women have the option to say no. That's the equality. Don't do something you don't want to, it's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:21 PM
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Someone tag that man from like 8 days ago that was complaining women didn't want average men.... the truth is, men don't want average women either... shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:54 PM
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Okay, I don't think it's fair for her to think that, but unfortunately that is her right. Yes, most women are going to believe this because it's one of the only times, women know men actually desire or want a woman, EVER. But, I'd argue at the end of the day that makes you not compatible with most women. Which is why I recommend in turn for you to find a woman who will split or will take care of you.... they're out there, you just have to find them and not be willing to settle. That's why I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:44 PM
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Part of your issue may be describing dating as a housing issue... but beyond that, don't know why you would want to settle in the first place. In the long run, you'll wind up unhappy and resentful, so in the end of it, you don't wind up with the person you settled for anyways. Settling is what people do when"to just have someone." That's how to wind up on snapped or people investigates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:33 PM
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You're not a woman, you wouldn't know anything about how women think or how they're attracted to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:28 AM
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Being sexually attracted to you, has nothing to do with if you see men as human. We can see you as a human being and not want intimacy with you......
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:03 AM
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Because we're NOT attracted to a lot of average.... would you rather be lied to? I'm genuinely confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:00 AM
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Because we aren't attracted to them? It's nature. That doesn't mean treat them like shit, but not being attracted is the issue here. Why don't you show interest at average looking women? Let me be clear, the ONLY man I actually have gotten horny or lusting over, without meeting, was Jacob Elordi. So there's that.....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:59 AM
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They don't, each couple is different. But I'd argue, people are attracted to what attracts them, no one's fault, just is. I'm attached to tall men, yes, but I am also attracted to tall women, but at the same time, I wouldn't really turn down a short anything if they were my type physically, and then personality and morals come in to play. The only thing I ask about money is they make around or as much as I do, because I don't want my kids (if I were ever to consider having them) to suffer the wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:52 AM
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Depends, if you want your one woman to be a trad wife, that's your business, but if you have some mindset that all women are is housewives, that's what makes you sexist. Your personal preference has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:45 AM
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I prefer this dynamic, 50/50 is all I ask for... well 100/100. Treat me, how I treat you. Would I like the door held open occasionally? Yes, but I would do the same for him. Share chores, share responsibilities, I just don't understand why this is seen as awful or not desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:43 AM
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I think celebrating it is a little much, on both sides.... treated like it's not an ick, would be something I would settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:42 AM
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I'd like it to be more even, hell even just act like you like being around me in bed.... but its not to say your way is bad per se, but I would want my partner to feel appreciated too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:38 AM
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Hear me out, a lot of men are a mix of both. Just because they are exciting and charismatic, doesn't mean they aren't loyal or emotionally available. Could it just be that the "nice guys" use this because they're not charismatic or confident or exciting, and so they have to hate on men that can do all of the above instead of combating their own insecurities with leveling up?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:34 AM
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No, assuming he still thinks and acts like a man, since he was that way his whole life, men wouldn't be attracted to his personality in that way, hell men barely like women who don't want to be traditional (majority speaking), they wouldn't want someone exactly like them.... then again, sometimes I wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:30 AM
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I'd argue a good maybe 30% to be honest. Surely it has to be higher than 10% I'd like to hope.....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:25 AM
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Someone who is outgoing, someone who can have a conversation with me and is easy to talk to, someone who is sure of themselves, someone who doesn't have to lie to get a date, someone who has concrete intentions, someone who takes care of themselves, someone who isn't afraid to be vulnerable with me.... someone who is confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:13 AM
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I actually agree, when I see men (not you) saying they need it and it should always be given in relationships, I always think but why? It's pretty good IF you have someone absolutely stunning at it, and even then, you can do the same thing with a sex toy... people put way too much emphasis on sex. If you're in love with someone, I can understand the connection and it being passionate (depending on if the man is actually passionate or treats you like a whore), but if it's just sex, it's mediocre …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:58 AM
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Prefer and want that for themselves? Yes. you have the right. What you dont have the right to do, which I see way too often, is be interested in a woman, and when you find out she isn't a traditional woman, either a. try to make her change her mind, or b. talk to down to her and insult what she's looking for. Take the L and move on, that's where men lose me. We don't all want to be traditional, and that's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:54 AM
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Men who lie to get laid. I'd rather men go pay sex, in turn no one gets hurt as the one they are paying USUALLY is consenting, but if you're lying to a woman who is actually looking for a relationship, that's immoral and you're a bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:22 AM
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Lol. I highly disagree with you, and do encourage you to look deeper in mainstream discussions. But, we both know you're not going to agree with anything that makes your original point look less than, so I'll leave it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:18 AM
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You lost me with your further explanation, because your original question seemed to be % of who he is compared to what he does (financially, around the house, etc.) but then in your further explanation you go on to say who he is is his traits, yes of course but how he treats you... so is it what he does for me, or how he treats me? I'd argue all 3 matter. Who he is and how he treats me usually are in the same ball park though, as they both depend on each other. Him being loyal and calm, has ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:58 AM
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Men most certainly do call women gold-digging whores for wanting a traditional relationship with a man. Just as men receive the same. That being said, no there is nothing inherently wrong with you wanting a trad wife, as long as she is consenting and it doesn't border on controlling, toxic behavior. The problem lies in men getting pissed off when someone they're attracted to, isn't this way and doesn't seek this type of relationship and men choose to insult them and their personal choices. That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:44 AM
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Define power? Because from what I have seen, women are attracted to attractive men (by their standards) as not every woman's is the same. Sometimes power may equal money for women, that I can agree with for women looking for a traditional life standpoint, etc. But really what are you saying power is, because I have never seen a woman go after the king of Scotland or something, and there aren't enough men in power of a country to go around, so its obviously not all women attracted to power.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:32 AM
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Both tend to stick their nose in each other's business honestly. I've seen women give a damn when men want their own spaces, same for men when women want their own. Unfortunately there is an ego in every bunch. Just like your example of women living their lives and men being condescending, it's usually the lonely ones that are pissed off women are living single and enjoying times with their friends and they make assumptions. Women do the same thing when men are single and choose to sleep around …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:59 AM
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My post was mostly a joke, but it's only because who gives a damn who does what better? Women tend to like and do things men do, and vice versa. Except for production, as of right now, both are needed for that, whether it be IVF or whatever. I feel like comparing only pisses people off more... there's no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:55 AM
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I'd argue the opposite as a bi-sexual woman. Men aren't passionate, they treat sex like it's disposable, and don't even get me started on how aggressive they are, which rough sex isn't a taboo thing depending on who you are, but the way they treat their partners like animals is not passionate in the slightest. Women, totally different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:48 AM
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Then don't date women? Only date men? If you dont like how hard women make your life, don't get with one. Simple fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:41 AM
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What statement would you like? Some people dont like men controlling or having traditional wives? We knew this already. It's a pretty big thing with feminists and women overall, so what do you want from me that adds to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:39 AM
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No one is saying be applauded, but I sympathize with them sure. I disagree with your views on abortions and fetuses and not having children period, but hey like you said, cold reality of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:38 AM
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I can't control society my friend, nor can I control a campaign based on other people's opinions. I don't have a problem with men going to find their stay at home wife, as long as they're not forcing me in to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:33 AM
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If reproductive science keeps going the way it is, pretty soon we won't need men for births either. Are men wanted by a lot of women? Yes, it's nice when they're actual partners, but needed is a bit of a stretch besides birth, not going to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:29 AM
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I dont want the same hardships and SUFFERING I had as a child, for my kid. End of. For someone that said they didn't care about aboritons in your original post, you sure did turn in to a "pro-lifer." Bravo for being good at deceiving. But not all women want their kids to suffer the same way they did, nor do we want to put ourselves on the back burner to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:27 AM
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Go find someone you're compatible with? Work on yourself, get healthy, then go find someone you can see yourself with. A key is honestly friendships, it's what helped me the most. I'm single, sex toys are my best friend. TMI I know, but right now, I am not in a place for human connection, especially not with the options I have at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:20 AM
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Attraction is a thing everyone deals with, you work on it, you go to the gym, you take care of yourself. Go out, meet friends, especially friends of the opposite sex, as JUST FRIENDS, and be outgoing and do things you enjoy doing. Not sure about the loss of blue collar work as I see plenty of blue collar workers, but everyone is having trouble finding work right now, so I get it, not just a man thing. The loss of identity as a male provider is unfortunately a thing society put on you all, and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:16 AM
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Ok if that isn't what you look for, then don't, and someone will like those traits about you as well. The first thing is to be yourself, go out and date around until you find someone that you are compatible with. I look for confidence, ambition, intelligence, and loyalty. I hope you find your person, genuinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:10 AM
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Ok, then find someone that is ok with you being you? That's what dating is about. There's no real solution to your issue. Women aren't going to change what they're attracted to, neither are men, but the good news is, there is someone for everybody, and you just have to date around to find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:06 AM
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Go get a sex doll, go get a flesh light. What do you think single women do? We have friendships, which men very much need, and we have sex toys. It's possible if you just believe. Struggling mentally? Talk to your friends, talk to a therapist (that is what they're there for).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:02 AM
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When your need for empathy or sympathy becomes "it's all women's fault" or "women need to lower their standards" or "you don't care enough." It gets tiring, my friend. Telling you to go to therapy is what I would tell anyone struggling with mental health. It's what all people need. Therapy is there for a reason, but if what you are expecting is to trauma dump and then a solution be, women need to allow me to have sex with them or date me because us as men are at a disadvantage, then I can't help…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:56 AM
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The reason majority of the time women have no empathy for men, is because since children, men have largely been coddled by society and their mothers alike. That and men have no empathy for women at all either, so why should we care when you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:51 AM
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Or, become confident. Change yourself to be confident. Do things that make you happy, go out, talk to people, go to the gym, take care of yourself. I mean, I am really not understanding what you as a man are wanting here? You want women to not want confident men? So we just ignore what we're attracted to and date people who are insecure to make them feel better? I'm not meaning to come off rude, but I genuinely don't know what you're wanting besides you also being confident and dating confident …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:47 AM
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So instead of going to find a woman that does like or is ok with certain things, or changing yourself... you'd rather argue and debate with women who don't agree with these things you seek, to make them change? I'm not understanding what other option you are seeking, other than finding someone who fits your niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:40 AM
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Depends on if it's actually controlling or not. There is a difference. But if that's what you want, go find your traditional wife. I'm not stopping you, but don't expect every woman to be that, we're not all like that, the key is to find what makes you happy. Just like I as a woman who wants to wear something I am comfortable in, wants to go out and wants enjoy life with my partner, will find what makes me happy, which is a man who wants to travel and have fun in this one life we live, wants me …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:31 AM
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Women aren't the one's complaining on a reddit thread about men liking confident women, Ultra. In fact it's a norm to appreciate confidence. It's what determines success in many ways, dating, job wise, money wise, life period.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:25 AM
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Wasn't being condescending, I'm genuinely trying to figure out what you're complaining about. Confidence is an attractive trait. Like I told another commenter, if you are pissed off women find confidence attractive for whatever reason, and men don't, change it. Make it the new social norm to like confident women, no one is stopping you. But you complaining that men don't like confidence like women do, isn't doing anything for you. It's making you look insecure, and the best thing you can do is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:24 AM
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Because you see how bad the world is as a whole, economically, society wise, just period, and you want to bring a baby in to this? Especially if you're someone who is struggling economically and can't give your child their needs (other countries and other circumstances can't help it, I get that), but choosing to bring children in to bad situations in America especially, is selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:20 AM
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So what is your complaint about? Because women at a "macro level" like confident men? Welcome to dating. The bright thing to do, would be to also like confident women and work on becoming confident yourself. Make it a societal norm Ultra, no ones stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:18 AM
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Precisely. The other issue is, men don't really care where the baby comes from, as long as they have their "imaginary heir." As long as they have that, they're set. The woman being not ideal is the least of their worries, they just want the heir to the life they don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:16 AM
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I didn't say it was all or even a majority, I said it was a lot, which it is. But there are also women who have sex with men and the risk of condoms breaking, pills not working, etc. there you go. Pregnancy is not an amazing thing for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:14 AM
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If you choose not to pay, that makes you not compatible with the woman you chose to ask out that also does not want to pay, meaning you should go look elsewhere, while she goes on a date with the guy willing to pay. That's how asking someone out works. You have the risk of being used for a free meal, women have the risk of being sexualized and asked where we are headed after this. Both are a risk. There is an inherent risk with dating both parties have to be ok with. If the date doesn't go well,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:11 AM
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Because men are the ones complaining about bill splitting? So if they don't want to pay, just say that so women can go find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:08 AM
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Really both parties need to be upfront, so you can avoid each other and go about your day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:05 AM
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Completely agreed. If she likes you for you, she'll take the getting to know you date. a $5 coffee never hurt any one. And if a man doesn't want to pay, be up front, that way she can decide if she wants to go out, or if its really worth her time saying no to paying $5, either way is preference. It's really not hard, people just like to make it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:05 AM
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So you do get the point. Happy for you Finn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:02 AM
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The answer is yes, we do say don't date men that expect you to be slaves while also working your own job.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:58 AM
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Both things can be true at once. If you're not confident you're insecure. If you're insecure, you're not confident. What are you missing here Finn?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:49 AM
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Disagree entirely with that, but neither is wrong. If men don't want a confident woman, that's your prerogative. Just like it's women's prerogative's if we want one. It's called preference Billy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:48 AM
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On top of that, there are goals of mine that I haven't met, so no, children are not for me right now, if in the future I decide otherwise, possibly, but until then it's a hard no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:47 AM
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Don't really care about running out of time, especially when it comes to my children not having to endure what I did. Wanting children despite the unwellness of society and it's members right now is called selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:46 AM
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You would be surprised how many children would say, why couldn't you just not have me if I was going to suffer this way, I being one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:44 AM
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Precisely, like feel free to not want the child by all means as the male partner, there forth she has the right to abortion but like you said, if she keeps it, I do believe the state should pick up the slack, especially since they keep complaining about low birth rates and expect women to endure it for their sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:43 AM
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Yes, a lot of women I know do in fact warn others not to have kids for a multitude of reasons, a lot regret it, a lot wish they had them at another time, its not sunshine and rainbows sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:41 AM
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I would describe happiness as happiness and sadness as sadness. confident is confident, insecure is insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:38 AM
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Your last comment didn’t show up. But from seeing the top of it, I don’t know what you mean by the absence of negative? Either you’re confident or not. Meaning I find you attractive or don’t. There is not a sense of negative. Same way if you find someone attractive because they’re “athletic,” they either are or they’re not. There is no in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:23 AM
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🤣 that’s fair I suppose. But no I don’t have a corporate job. I just believe people should want better for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:17 AM
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What does either/or have to do with wanting more for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:14 AM
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Also welfare and services isn’t shit. Don’t get it twisted. They are the bare minimum of what it takes to have children. So until you’ve lived that life, don’t judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:13 AM
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Didn’t say it was all. But it is a lot. My personal feelings are valid as much as everyone else’s. You asked, I answered. I think of the children always. It’s why I won’t have any of my own until everything is absolutely perfect for them, and if not, I won’t. Even if you don’t like the financial argument, it’s someone’s every day. Take it as what you wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:11 AM
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We’ll gladly trade places. You wanna go through the pain of pregnancy? Be our guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:02 AM
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Start having high standards friend. There’s nothing wrong with it. Believe in yourself more. Know you deserve the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:58 AM
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Many reasons, like you said the 6% of genetically disadvantaged babies, rape cases, or moms dying. But also, sometimes if you know the man isn’t going to be around or help parent which happens a lot more than you think. Who wants to be a single parent? Also, if you’re at a disadvantage money wise, I’d argue that’s a good reason. My parents didn’t have their shit together, and I would’ve rather them aborted me than me have to go through the life I had to endure. It’s not fun for a kid who did not…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:55 AM
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Do you just not have standards or something? Having standards doesn’t mean treating people like shit. It means you have needs that you want met and won’t stoop lower, you don’t have to treat someone like shit to reject them. You can be kind and reject someone who doesn’t meet your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:51 AM
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Someone who is exceptional at athletics is someone who is not horribly out of shape. Both can exist at the same time. It is a core trait people are attracted to, and unfortunately needs to be said. You’d be surprised by how many insecure people are in this day and age, weeds out the ones we don’t need to put up with. I’m attracted to confidence, so yes I state it when asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:49 AM
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It’s a risk everyone should take if I’m being honest. Keeps people from being treated like shit. If you want to go to settle, go for it. Doesn’t mean everyone should.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:46 AM
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It isn’t about y’all caring or “having skin in the game.” It’s about men actively voting against women’s rights. If you don’t care, mind your business and go about your day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:44 AM
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Depends, there’s a difference between knowing you deserve better than bare minimum, and thinking you are above everyone. They’re not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:38 AM
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Now, if you’re going to sit here and say a man can never be insecure or have emotions, that isn’t fair, and isn’t plausible. We’re all human and all have feelings. It’s when you are insecure every second of the day, need reassurance all the time if I love you, or like someone else, and when you find me hanging out with friends a problem, all because you’re insecure. No I’m not attracted to that. Have feelings and emotion all day, it’s welcomed, but not when it’s weaponized or is your entire pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:09 AM
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Except athleticism would be someone who’s not horribly out of shape for the most part. Just like confidence is someone who’s confident, who doesn’t come off as insecure. Confidence is the same thing in both genders. Everyone for the most part is going to be attracted to confidence, it’s a pretty common standard. (Unless your my sisters best friend, who says she likes people who are insecure because then she can beat them down and they won’t leave her) but hey, that’s narcissism. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:06 AM
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Depends on the partner. You never said the hours you played so I have no idea what her complaint was, but it also depends if she felt appreciated as a partner. You may have just not been compatible or you didn’t want a relationship. It’s not about basing a personality on it, it’s about our fear if we will make it home or not if we do go out with said guy or trust said guy or go home with said guy. It’s the risk, and we have to be ok with that. No one said it was ok to make a personality trait ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:00 AM
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Sounds like she communicated her needs if she told you you’re on the game too much. Lol. But slightly just kidding, kind of. Again, I think more of the issue is you aren’t taking in to accountability, women’s experiences which largely combat studies, especially where sexual harassment and rape and the alike are concerned. Do keep in mind, studies can also be skewed, which is why there are so many different ones of the same topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:41 AM
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What exact definition would you think she is wanting if you haven’t actually talked or thought like a woman? And describe normal amount of confidence, because I don’t believe it’s two different things. Confidence overall is confidence. I don’t think there is exactly a scale depending on gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:37 AM
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Completely agree. Everyone should have high standards. It keeps you from putting up with bullshit and things you don’t deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:33 AM
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Yes the woman is wrong for her behavior. But at the same time, the man is in fact a moron for not noticing the red flags and/or her behavior. I mean men tell women the same thing about men they have babies with and how they should have noticed they weren’t good men in the beginning. Both things can be true at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:20 AM
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Of course they do. We know it happens. We know there are victims of the same crimes and circumstances, even if considerably lower numbers and different perpetrators. The issue lies where we stop caring when men use statistics and arguments to compare situations and take the focus off women when we are having a discussion or trying to solve OUR situation, instead of coming up with their own solutions. Women are expected to care about men’s issues, where men don’t care about ours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:16 AM
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Doesn’t sound like you care about the issues stated, sounds like you just want to prove women wrong, which is a problem in itself, and is probably largely why you ex partner is an ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:10 AM
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I’d like to say size doesn’t matter, and it wouldn’t if men for the most part cared about their partners during intimacy. The problem is, men don’t give a damn so if that’s the case, women might as well get their rocks off and be with someone they can at least decently feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:44 AM
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F**k it, I’ll play. There are plenty of reason why women feel a type of way with men sexualizing them, harassment and not wanting to be disrespected come to mind. But I’ll argue that two things can be true at once. I agree, I don’t find certain things attractive about a man’s sexuality. In part, they are very rough a lot of times with sex, don’t give a shit if their partner is satisfied or not, and all are just downright disgusting when performing the act or when talking during, along with how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:33 AM
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As a woman with no issues being with a bi-man. I completely agree. My mom had an acquaintance a few years ago that found out her boyfriend had been with men after he had asked for something sexually that was “feminine” based in her eyes… needless to say, she thought about leaving after and I believe she eventually did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:25 AM
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Depends on the person and what you’re talking about. Sexually? I’d rather not have a man with 35+ bodies, but experienced or not experienced doesn’t matter really as long as THEY ACTUALLY LISTEN TO WHAT I NEED. That’s the key with that. As far as experienced in relationships. Yeah it would be nice to date someone who is emotionally intelligent and knows how to communicate but that doesn’t always mean being in a relationship. A lot of this “men are unappealing with no experience” comes from socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:23 AM
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Truly, I just like discussions. I did largely give up on dating, because it’s inevitable to be hurt, and majority of us aren’t going to find the person of our dreams, it’s just better to be alone. But I do like general talking points with people, and deeper conversations, so Reddit does what’s needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:16 AM
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Hypergamy exists in both genders. Women have dated better looking men, men have dated better looking women. My question is, when it’s their choice, why it bothers you so much? Do the same, or find someone you feel is equal to you that also likes you back. People like who they like, sometimes it doesn’t make sense except to those in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:09 AM
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I mean, don’t you too want a confident woman? I feel like it’s a natural thing on both sides for people to want their partners confident. Why would anyone want to be with someone that is always insecure??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:54 PM
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I think the base line is, men need to date men, they’d be happier, because if you’re trying to DATE WOMEN, then I suggest you learn how to treat women, but hey, who am I?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:42 PM
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How exactly are men being punished? By not having dating options? That is dependent upon the person and their personality or preferences overall. Women not liking men isn’t a punishment, it’s a personal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:35 PM
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Well I would argue men are the same, when has a man ever accepted being sexually attracted by a woman not in their preferences? In fact majority of times, men are loads harsher towards a woman who isn’t their type than a woman is. Not saying it doesn’t happen. But men don’t accept it either. So personally, no should be good enough, both parties should shut up, and go about their day when someone says they’re not interested or they don’t like it. Problems solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:25 PM
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Well lying and not saying hey if you’ve had taboo sex with other men, I’m not really attracted to you, isn’t great either. I would be more pissed about finding out later to be honest, and would rather know up front so I know we’re not compatible but hey, everyone’s different. I hope there’s a middle ground somewhere. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:23 AM
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I feel like it’s slightly different to be honest. If I was in love with someone, I just don’t think I could continue in the same space as them, it would be too hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:55 AM
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Ahhh, "Why I'm Single: The Essay." alternative versions; "Women Please Stay Away from Egotistical Men," "Men and Control," or "Men: The Sequel." I hope women see through this bull and stay far away from you and your cousin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 12:42 PM
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Sounds like your “type” didn’t like you, so you expect women to lower what they desire? There’s nothing wrong with having a type of man. Like someone above said, my type hasn’t changed in the years I’ve been alive. Now there is some people who may settle for less than or someone who isn’t their type based on how someone treats them or vice versa, but that still doesn’t change what they’re attracted to. To be honest, I think you’re getting things confused. People fall in to other leagues sure, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:21 AM
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So let’s just say I believe half the shit you’re spewing because majority of it is case by case basis of rare instances where yes some groups of women do have issues with men rights, it’s called extremists, and not all women are like that. Now I will tell you that yes equal custody can be an issue, but I can also talk to you on why the assumption is men don’t really want to take care of their kids full time or half time and the MAJORITY are who show that. So the courts and women overall generali…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:14 AM
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He doesn’t. Someone broke his little heart and turned down his proposal because he didn’t make enough money (I guess) and he decided all women were shallow. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:49 AM
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So I don’t get to enjoy my activity or community after it ends? No thanks. Friends in the community? Great. Not relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:46 AM
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On top of that, not every marriage is not the same. Women also provide, so guess what? 50/50 the chores and cooking. It’s not hard, people just like to make it hard. The problem is, majority of people want to put their preferences on other relationships, and the point is, it’s not your relationship to put shit on to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:41 AM
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And men only care about sex what else is new? No, not all women care about a fancy shit wedding just like not all men care about sex but again this is part of the problem y’all generalize people and then wonder why there’s issues with conversation. But while we’re at it generalizing, men don’t want an actual relationship either, they want a woman to be their mother, and then want women on the side because they have no loyalty and don’t know how to stay with one woman. Guess we all have our “vice…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:32 AM
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I never said it was an issue. If people like sex that’s fair. But I’m just saying men operate differently that’s why they would be ok being treated like a manwhore, because they value sex that much. The problem with “constant complaining” is it isn’t always complaining. It’s things, that were obvious things, that could’ve been done or issues that are obvious that aren’t taken care of. Like I said men and women aren’t different, men unfortunately need things to be kindergarten obvious, and women …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:34 PM
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They shouldn’t. In fact if men just decided to say hey, we’re going to pleasure ourselves and have sex dolls instead, a lot of women would be thrilled. We wouldn’t have to be bothered, hit on when not wanted, or scared of certain things happening to be honest. Yeah some women would miss their sexual needs, attention, etc. but a lot could deal. Y’all would just have to deal with the ones that still wanted the attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:06 PM
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That’s because all men need to thrive or “feel loved” is sex. Women are completely different and don’t want to be treated like meat or “sluts.” So much so, that I’m starting to think women and men just aren’t compatible period.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:56 PM
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Depends, if it’s something I care about and you have done it for someone else, then yeah it would be a conversation to be had, and if it can’t be compromised upon or it’s an issue for you whatever reason, then possibly we just aren’t compatible, and that’s ok, it would just be you finding someone who was willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:36 PM
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Your problem and most people’s problems, are they take people doing bad shit or stupid shit or judgmental shit and lump them in to what political party they represent. It’s called stereotyping, assuming every person in that group is the same way. It’s why no one can have a conversation half the time. That’s where you have to grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:21 PM
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He wants control. Thats what I’ve gathered from his comments. He’s one of those “I’m a high value man,” and I deserve a high value whatever the fuck. He only values sex obviously because each argument about why women don’t stay in relationships where love is not prevalent, he argues about women’s “sexual” experiences. Sex is most important to him, he’ll love no one beyond sex. Stay far away. That’s what I have gotten so far. He also hates kinky sex because obviously he’s not into it or bad at it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:15 PM
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No it’s still society in my opinion and majority of others I’ve seen, men just happened to set society up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:08 PM
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I feel like that’s something to ask on one of the first couple of dates to get it out of the way… because if you’re not compatible, you’re just not. Other women enjoy certain types of things, that’s why you go after someone your type. Wanting her not to have other experiences, sounds a little like control, which is a problem some men have anyways. To be honest. Not being rude but, you can cut out spending a lot of money just by putting in your bio or conversation, hey I’m vanilla, I don’t like “…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:05 PM
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Yeah I disagree with that, especially with people with no Medicare not being able to live, but hey I actually care about other people. Or people just don’t want to have children? Find a woman who wants to have one, pay to woo her, have yourself a baby, and leave everyone else be. Yay, one more child in this f**ked world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:44 PM
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Amen. This right here… like, no Medicare or other needs, but men who have no social skills or are horrible people need to find a mate. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:39 PM
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And half of that crisis is obese men as well. 🤦🏻‍♀️ the birth rate is on the decline because women don’t need to stay with a man to have credit cards, etc. anymore. But also, a lot of women don’t want to put theirselves second to a child and man anymore either, they want careers. And having kids is an awful consideration regardless, look at our world and economy, why would any one want to bring kids in to this? If you want to date, but a passport and go date abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:38 PM
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Now I feel like you’re trolling… lol. If the government is against Medicare, what makes you think they’ll sponsor travel for people to meet people OUTSIDE of the us? That’s a you need to get your money up situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:32 PM
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Or people just stop being shit people? 🤷🏻‍♀️ the dating market isn’t going to go anyone’s way if the person who was dating has de used to stop because they got cheated on, abused, etc. multiple times. To be honest, people just suck, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:28 PM
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That’s not the offensive thing. Any guy on earth can ask out a girl. It’s the not taking no for an answer. Whether they’re “hot” or a woman’s type or whatever. No means no. I’m not interested doesn’t mean keep trying to change someone’s mind. And when a girl says she has a man or a woman or a partner or whatever, that also isn’t the time to be like, but I can treat you better or anything of that sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:49 PM
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Well, the reason that is, is who else is going to speak up for our fellow women? Men don’t and they don’t seem to care about our problems, so to you I genuinely ask, why would we speak up for yall?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:01 AM
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The irony is, you say the common denominator isn't you. However, any time a woman has an issue with multiple men, it's thrown her way... so I'm going to keep it simple. If you have this many issues with relationships multiple times, the common denominator is very much YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:04 AM
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That’s fair. I think from both sides, both genders are sick of the hypocrisy. Unfortunately I don’t think anything is ever going to change. People aren’t willing to grow or look past their preferences. But, like someone below said, men with non-masculine aesthetics can still be assholes, and masculine men can still be teddy bears… same goes for the opposite side. No one will ever learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 04:23 PM
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I’m confused. I was agreeing with you because I have friends that have done this same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 03:42 PM
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Damn, dude can’t get anyone so he’s trying to “manipulate” liberal women in to “spreading their legs” for him, by suggesting they save their political interests. Thats something I haven’t seen even the worst of Red Pill men try… color me “impressed.” 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:44 AM
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No one is saying to solve a problem genius, we’re saying to make a break, for men and women alike to take care of childcare. Period. That isn’t hurting anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:35 AM
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Would you say this same statement to a single dad who also needs breaks to get children to and from school / appointments? There's no issues with breaks as long as everyone is working the same amount of hours, which she would be, just with a break to get children.... so why would she need a pay cut?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:25 AM
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Really in all honesty, both sides get slaughtered for it overall. Men are seen disgusting and creepy for p#rn, women are seen as "promiscuous" for watching and wanting sex. (Overall I think p#rn is disgusting no matter the gender, it creates unreal expectations and to an extent causes cheating, but that's a discussion for another time). Same with toys. Men are instructed to cover up sure, but women are seen as horrors for dressing the way they do and showing too much skin. Overall, we're all jud…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:13 AM
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Let me just say, p#rn overall is disgusting for both genders (just my opinion), it creates unrealistic expectations for sex, and is a lot of the reason people aren't content and cheat in their relationships. Toys are each individuals own business. I mean, if men want to go around in a skirt and high heels, I'm all for it, if that's what the man wants to do. Lol. But in all honesty, I love a man in a crop top, so I can't say shit about this one. But I also love how a man looks in a suit. Those ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:03 AM
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Now, let me be clear, I don't think a "reward system" is changing a damn thing. People are too wired in their own desires / selves. I just wish women and men alike would stop saying they want one thing, and then doing the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:56 AM
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I as a woman actually partially agree with this sentiment. I've seen so many women complain about f**kboy men, and men that don't want relationships, and the horn dogs who only want sex, only to then turn around and continue dating these very men, a lot of the time because they think they can change them, and then as you said, the cycle continues and she wonders why she keeps getting hurt, while dating assholes. Another example, women say they want an emotional or more (non-traditional masculine…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:51 AM
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