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No, talking about clitoral stimulation in the context of female pleasure and female orgasm. Penises weren't mentioned once until you had to cry about yours. But at least you admit you're just trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:41 AM
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We're discussing clitoral stimulation anyway, so your penis is irrelevant. And your red herring is quite telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:36 AM
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I've had sex with loads of women, and it's a common talking point we have to be happy that we can finally request clit play without expecting pain. Lots of women tell men "I don't like my clit played with" solely because it's less offensive than telling him the truth of "You're bad at playing with my clit."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:24 AM
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Unless he's recently shaved. His stubble scraping against my genitals hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:23 AM
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And clitoral hood stimulation. Some women's clits are too sensitive for direct contact, so you should keep pressure to the hood (the skin protecting the clit).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:06 AM
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Nah, you're right that I could have made my point more clear. I appreciate you pointing that out and giving me the chance to explain better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:20 AM
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Yes, you are misinterpreting what I'm saying. Good sex is when sex isn't just about the "finishing". It's when sex is about both people caring about each other's pleasure and having a good time. I didn't say that the guy couldn't orgasm. Just that his orgasm was as likely and took as much work as my orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:59 AM
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You would have to clarify the forums, then, clarify your confidence in that 99% number, and clarify your confidence that the women here and the women there are the same, because your post is based on us assuming that what you describe is an accurate assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:52 AM
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See point #2.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:48 AM
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A few flaws with your premise: If you're able to see the conversation, then it isn't women talking amongst themselves. They're women (and men) talking while knowing they have a male audience. If the place is about discussing those traits, then people who come to them will talk about those traits. That doesn't mean that's the only thing they care about, just what they talk about in that specific forum. That's like someone looking at this sub titled "Purple Pill Debate" and thinking that every per…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:39 AM
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The biggest flaw/ bad trait a potential father could possibly have to me is not wanting to be a father (I don't mean "If you hate fatherhood, you're a bad person." I mean "I couldn't possibly feel comfortable having procreative sex with someone who doesn't want to be a father"). So by definition, a man who is not my partner always has a bigger flaw than the man who is. Especially in your hypothetical that my partner does want to be a father. Wanting to be a father is the biggest trait I want in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:44 PM
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(Reposted this to add some things) It would be very easy to convince a man to impregnate you. Sure, but it will be infinitely easier to just use the man that doesn't need to be convinced at all. Spending 1% effort to find a guy to convince is still harder than spending 0%, right? I’m wondering internally do you want that child to have your husbands dna, The child having my DNA doesn't matter to me, hence why I'm willing to adopt or foster. Why do you keep bringing DNA into this when I've already…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:10 PM
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It would be very easy to convince a man to impregnate you. Sure, but it will be infinitely easier to just use the man that doesn't need to be convinced at all. Spending 1% effort to find a guy to convince is still harder than spending 0%, right? I’m wondering internally do you want that child to have your husbands dna, The child having my DNA doesn't matter to me, hence why I'm willing to adopt or foster. Why do you keep bringing DNA into this when I've already answered that DNA is not important…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:06 PM
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I mean, one of the biggest things I consider attractive is consent, and my husband presumably consented to impregnating me and fathering my child, so right off the bat, he's more attractive than a man I have to convince to impregnate me and father my child.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:57 PM
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I'm still confused. Why are "fit man/better genes" and "my husband" mutually exclusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:54 PM
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I guess I don't understand how it could be another man's? My husband is right there and easily accessible. If I'm deadset on birthing a baby, then why would I go out and find other guys when I have free access to male genitals at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:50 PM
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The biggest problem is that men see sex as "I do what I can to get my penis in her, and then I keep my penis in her until I orgasm." That's not what sex is. Sex is a bond/connection between two people involving their genitals. It does suck for men that they can't keep going after their orgasm like women can, but I've found that the best sex I've had was with a guy who was on some medication that made it hard for him to orgasm. It completely changed his perspective on sex, and made us much more i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:44 PM
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“I want to only love a child that is mine” you’ll respect that. No, the opposite. If that's his opinion, then that means he'll refuse to love a foster child or adoptive child. I care about that (meaning, that is a thing I can't ignore). Adoption/fostering = a parent loving a child that isn't from their balls/ovaries Paternity fraud = 1. A man loving a child that isn't from his balls + 2. Lying to the man. The second part, "Lying to the man" is the problem. I would never do a thing to my husband …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:36 PM
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Can you clarify your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:21 PM
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There's a reason that Romeo and Juliet laws exist. If both parties have underdeveloped brains, then you can at least brush it off as two idiots being idiots. But if one party has an underdeveloped brain and the other doesn't, of course we should acknowledge the risk of predation. Also, it's not just that the brain is developing, it's that the last part to develop, the part that matures in early 20s, is the part that processes long-term consequences. Of course I find it creepy that a fully-mature…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:19 PM
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No? Seems pointless. Do you care if your man is represented in the literal dna of your child? Well, that's an entirely different question. The problem with paternity fraud is that it's lying, not that it's expecting a person to love a kid not related to them. Yes, I care if my man thinks that, for example, adopting or fostering a kid means that he shouldn't love that kid like his own, just like I would. My two nieces aren't related to me at all, but they're as much my nieces as my bio nephew is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:16 PM

That said, even a guy can't have guaranteed orgasm due to ED or whatever. That's true, that's why I said "basically". But that also leads to the conversation about how there is way more medical research in getting men's dicks to work than there are for curing vaginismus (the female equivalent of ED) or low female sex-drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:27 PM
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There's no age at which your brain ever "becomes fully mature" and I've seen that age change ...21, then 23, then 25) Yeah, puberty also doesn't start or stop at any one specific year. Different people's bodies and brains are different. That's why I just said late 20s was a good place (technically, the cognitive maturity is around mid 20s, to be precise). Different parts of the brain mature at different times, and the part that processes long-term consequences is the last part, which matures in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:05 PM
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Your brain being "fully mature" has nothing to do with your fertility. I didn't say it was about fertility specifically, just about reproduction in general. Having a mature brain when you have kids is objectively beneficial, because it means you're capable of cognitively handling the tasks of parenthood. An older woman (late 30's) will struggle with conceiving whether she has sperm from a young man or an older one There are two errors here: A woman who struggles to conceive in her late 30s+ was …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:28 PM
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it seems for a lot of women whenever there is a conversation all they want to talk about is the guys that they are dating or their kids Because those two things are important parts of their lives? Especially kids: motherhood is a 24/7 job, where even when you're not actively caring for your kids, you're on-call. So, it's something they think about. I don't know a single woman who doesn't have at least three hobbies/fandoms/interests unrelated to kids or partners to talk about, though. If all she…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:11 PM
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Nah, you're fine. The "Prime" talk is just a way some guys excuse going after teenagers. Even in the reproductive type of Prime, late 20s iirc is the best time to start having kids, since that's when your brain and body are all fully mature and have a low miscarriage rate. I run in circles of mostly older crowds (40+), and plenty of them are just starting to discover themselves and put themselves out there. My best friend was a good little virgin school boy into his late 20s, jumped into a marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:45 PM

Casual sex exists because women do still want sex, even if it isn't that great for us. Regardless of how good or bad men are in bed, humans are innately a social sex species, and will still desire social sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:05 PM

I think women who peg do have it a bit harder, mostly because most men think prostate play must inherently be gay, and refuse to try it. Hell, I know guys who won't even wash their ass because they think doing so is gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:04 PM
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Where as for women, just have to say yes or no. I just shouted the word "Yes", and didn't suddenly get laid. But anyway, sex is designed for primarily your pleasure, with little direct risk to you, you are incapable of getting pregnant, you have a much lower chance of STDs as the penetrator, and you are almost guaranteed an orgasm. Seems pretty fair that if you get way more out of it and risk way less, then you should work harder for it. The thing is, you're seeing this as a gendered issue rathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:51 PM
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Not straight, but from what I understand, lesbian porn tends to involve less physical violence, less misogyny and slurs, and more attention to female pleasure, and that's why straight women often like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:25 PM
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I don't currently have a partner, but the last one I had, I asked out. There is only one time I can think of where a guy made the first move on me. I generally approach first, especially when seeking dating. Some times, he was the first person to interact with me, but the number exchange and date planning was almost always my idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:32 AM
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Mid 20s. Met him at a pup event at a kink event. We'll call him Guy 1. He's a bisexual whore (affectionate). Guy 1 told me his friend was into me and set us up. Guy 1 invited me to join him in a threesome he was having with another guy. That threesome became a foursome because Guy 1 invited another guy. This was not "train run on me", they all gave each other equal attention. Seriously, spend an evening with pup players, they get an insane amount of tail. Friend I met at a different kink event.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:30 AM
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I don't know if she lied or not, but what I do know is that you've made up your own story of the events, and it's really weird. You've decided that there were 180 men. Google can't tell you the amount of men who showed up to her specific attended events, because there are too many variables. You've decided that she only rejected them based on physical attraction and for no other attraction reason. You've decided that there absolutely must have been physically attractive men in the group that she…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:26 AM
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"it will happen when you stop looking" translation: This means that when you're actively trying to impress someone, you get anxious and stuck in your own head. If you're out just trying to enjoy yourself and make connections in general, then you won't feel as anxious and won't get in your own way. It'll be easier for you to find a girlfriend because it will be easier for you to interact with women in general. "stop bothering women going about their day, join a hobby and meet women there" transla…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:54 PM
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I mean, hot is subjective, so what any particular person might find hot isn't exactly required to involve youth. Of course I see people being afraid that they won't be found attractive in their age, but that's because they don't run with the right crowds. Most people are socially groomed with that "old hag when you turn 30" type talk, so they often believe those lies. The thing is, young hot people tend to need more attention or not know how to actually get someone, so they are the ones often ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:12 PM
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There are two phases here: The "It's in your body" and the "It's our of your body". If you both select "Yes" on Phase One (move it from your body to the next place it needs to go to be a child), then you move on to Phase Two, where you both decide together to support it or abandon it to the state. Women's Phase One lasts from her puberty to her giving birth (when it leaves her body). Men's Phase One lasts from his puberty to his ejaculation into her (when it leaves his body). That is equality. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 12:45 PM
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Plenty of women don't feel bad about having abortions. Plenty of women feel great relief. Plenty of women feel terrible about pregnancy, even if they initially wanted the baby. Plenty of people feel bad about exercising. Doesn't mean it's bad for you. Plenty of people feel bad about people of other races. Doesn't mean anything is wrong with those races. Our brains just make us feel bad about things. Sometimes it's our brain being smart. Sometimes it's our brain being stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 12:40 PM
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Both have a choice to do a part in making the baby (Phase one). Then, both have a choice on what happens afterwards to the baby that exists (Phase two). If both of you choose "Yes" in Phase One, then you both automatically move on to Phase Two. The man and woman get to opt out of the baby's existence every moment from the time they become fertile to the time the baby-making step exits their body (puberty to childbirth for woman, puberty to ejaculation into the woman for men). The baby can only e…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 12:38 PM
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Our bodies are literally designed to reproduce. Actually, they're not: We're a social sex species. We have the lowest sex-event to conception rate of animals, because our bodies are literally designed to have pleasure sex to build social bonds, with reproduction as only a second reason for sex for us. We're a menses species, unlike most other animals, which means our females are only fertile 1-2 days a month, but we're horny all month, including the point right before our period (when our sex dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 12:23 PM
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The situation I use is this: If I accidentally knock a glass over and it shatters, what is the more responsible option: ignoring it and leaving it there as it inevitably causes someone pain and injury, or picking it up and cleaning it? If you didn't intend to have a baby and are not ready for the baby, then having the baby will cause immense harm to that child. The responsible thing to do would be acknowledge your mistake and clean it up before the baby exists as a sapient and independent human,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 12:16 PM
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The right to an abortion is being responsible. If you make a mistake that will in the future cause someone a lot of harm, like have procreative sex when you aren't ready to have a child, then the responsible thing to do would be fix the mistake as soon as possible while you still can and while it's still in your control, like have an abortion. The idea that birth is just the "punishment" for sex is dehumanising to both the woman and the baby. Babies deserve to be born to parents who want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 12:13 PM
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The idea that women like attractive or productive men, and the idea that women are generally going to have better luck in dating than men is not an issue with me. The issues I have are: This is a gendered thing. People generally want what is beneficial for them. Men don't pursue the same things as women because men are just groomed to see different things as beneficial to them than women do. This is objectively true in all cases. 20% of men are not the only men with partners, so the 80/20 rule i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 12:06 PM
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Eh, not really. Young, hot, and energetic are not explicitly correlated, nor are they all explicitly related to "good at sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:37 AM
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I took that line straight from Greta Thunberg's kick back against Tate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:56 PM
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This. Likewise why some feminists are against body shaming men when it's punching down, but will refer to "small dick energy" or call a man bald when it's punching up. You're just hitting where it hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:32 PM
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I know plenty of guys and girls, straight, bi, gay, who are hoes well into their adult years. Hell, I used to work at a senior center, and we have several male and female hoes in their 60s, 70s, 80s. Missing out on being a hoe isn't real, you just gotta find your people. What I do see some women mean when they say that is that they missed out on being an independent young adult in general. Like, if this woman is married, and started the marriage by age 18, then she has no real understanding of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:29 PM
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I have no clue what happened in the posts OP is referencing. He didn't link it. All I'm taking is his word, on which he is openly incredibly biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:48 AM

Yeah, I've gone to dating events and happened not to hit it off with anyone. Sometimes, you just don't find that spark. He also didn't clarify the timeframe for the dating events: was in 9 in a day? 9 in a week? 9 in a month? 9 in a year? 9 in 5 years? Side note, putting an exclamation point after a number makes it a factorial. 9! = 362880, and yeah, if she went to that many dating events, then she must really care about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:08 PM
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They do? I've never seen a person tell someone they should only aim for anything. (Besides consenting, appropriate age, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:13 PM
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I'd probably try to do it in a nice, public, scenic way. I'd never have a public, scenic proposal before a private conversation, though, to ensure he actually wants to be proposed to, and that conversation will probably open the door for him to sneakily beat me to it, lol. I just feel weird about doing the knee and ring without actually talking about it privately first.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:10 PM

And that's true for the basement-dwelling idiots who only wants women who look like instagram influencers? Putting aside that yeah, people don't pick on those guys solely for the attraction they have, more of what they do with it and say about it, Why, to make your point, do you have to add so many details beyond what OP added?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:50 PM
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It's also why most male animals of social species have an instinct to leave their birth herd/pack/pride/colony/etc, so as to avoid accidental incest, while many females of the same species stay with or near their birth group.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:33 PM

You keep saying "if a man did that" despite proving that a man did that and wasn't told that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:19 PM
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Similarly-aged siblings and cousins also share a power-dynamic. My older brother is barely a year older than me, and there is absolutely a power-dynamic between me and him. Siblings or sibling-like cousins have a natural level of peer competition How often, when people complain about incest, are they complaining about two people who have a completely equal relationship? I don't think I've ever heard an incest complaint about anything but a power-dynamic relationship. That's like if I said "Besti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:12 PM

The fact of the matter is that when you tried to prove that "people are absolutely okay with telling men their standards are too high", you compared OP randomly calling a woman ugly and implying that she doesn't deserve to have attractiveness standards solely due to her appearance, to a man asking his friend "Why can't I get women?" And the friend responding "Maybe you're looking for too much out of one person" with no insults, no calling him ugly, etc. Double standards only apply when you compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:07 PM

Might want to read the comments of the post you shared. It proves you wrong. Literally the top comments include: " you approached this mindfully and with good intentions" "you’ve risked looking like the bad guy to genuinely help your friend because you want him to be happy and you spent time and energy thinking how to do that in a way that wouldn’t hurt his feelings. You didn’t call him unattractive or say they were out his league," (This one acknowledges that suggesting someone lower their stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:54 PM

Yeah, her standards are realistic. She doesn't find the guys attractive. It's not like not ever running into a guy you find attractive will ruin your life. Cats are pretty chill, and there is way more to life than romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:27 PM

Why are you implying the way you look directly affects what you find attractive? "Plain, overweight" doesn't like affect the brain like that or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:25 PM

The fact that you don't personally find her attractive doesn't mean she's not allowed to have standards for what she finds attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:42 PM
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Indeed men, contribute to patriarchy, which harms women and other men. Yet women also contribute to patriarchy, and not solely on an individual basis but also a systemic, cultural one. They do, yes, as a coping method. If a woman distracts the misogyny witchhunt to chase after another woman, then she can earn herself some extra time before the witchhunt turns back around on her. So if feminism's primary goal is dismantling patriarchy, what justification does it have for being a movement "for wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:33 AM
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You don’t get to throw away your most rotten apples I mean you didn't actually give the thing that feminists did there, so I have no clue what you're referring to. I appreciate the mentions of Femicide legislation and Duluth model, because in those examples, you specifically named the model/legislation, so I could actually respond to it. I would be happy to respond to the other ones if you can provide specific terms/models/laws. And explain to me, how a policy that treats men as the defacto guil…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:05 PM
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The only specific examples you listed are the Duluth model, and the need to have "Femicide" defined in law, so I'll respond to those two. Duluth Model: Is a specific model for dealing with specific contextual issues: male-on-female domestic violence. It doesn't tackle female-on-male domestic violence or non-contexted domestic violence for the same reason a dog trainer doesn't have to also know how to train cats: A person is allowed to focus on one specific issue, without being forced to focus on…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:29 PM
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Feminism has fought against men’s issues and applied policies What men's issue or applied policy did feminism fight against completely unrelated to defending a woman's issue? (Ex. Making it illegal to rape your wife does mean men don't get free access to sex slaves, which makes those men sad, but feminists didn't do it because it hurts men. They did it because not stopping it hurts women). Maybe not, but “equality” is sure as hell one of its fundamental tenants. Interesting that you ignored the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:41 PM
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Even though women are the ones who most heavily uphold your so called patriarchy Yeah, it's a form of self-preservation. Basically, if she directs the witchhunt at another woman, then the witchhunt is less likely to come for herself. She wouldn't have to do that at all if the witchhunt wasn't happening in the first place. Well, were a more than five decades in and men’s “help” are nowhere to be seen so allow me to doubt that chief. I work in mental healthcare, and I have way more male clients th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:23 PM
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Problem is, you are not the only ones oppressed by your sex. There is a difference between facing struggles, and being oppressed by your sex. No one argues that every man has an easy and grand old time. But when men have struggles, they are largely caused by either circumstance or by other men. Even when a man faces an issue from an individual woman (ex. woman rapes a man), his greater part of that issue is male-caused (ex. male judges and male-run police and male-run lawmakers don't believe tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:59 PM
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I answered that elsewhere: This is exactly why feminism isn't about "equality", it's about freedom of women from oppression based on their female sex. We can both acknowledge that men and women have different reproductive roles and different bodies, and equally acknowledge that having different bodies doesn't make women less human. (And we acknowledge that men being stronger than women doesn't make them more human, since if that were the case, chimps, gorillas, and virtually every other Great Ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:31 AM
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I just thought back and realised that I have pursued and asked out nearly every man I've dated. I've almost never been approached first. I would love to see these people actually bring stats on how many women initiate vs men. It will likely be more men than women, but the difference, I imagine, will be way smaller than they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:56 PM
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Those are the minority of women, The risk of avoiding pregnancy still largely falls on her, We're still sexually dimorphic. Human males are larger and stronger than human females of a similar regional origin, so women are still at more risk to men than men are to women. Women have less overall to gain from a mate than men do, since women are at risk by that very mate. And iirc, a woman's significant other/a man close to her is way more of a risk to her than a strange man she doesn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:54 PM
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Why do we always go to 'women get pregnant and do domestic labor' whenever we talk about equality which feminists fought for? This is exactly why feminism isn't about "equality", it's about freedom of women from oppression based on their female sex. We can both acknowledge that men and women have different reproductive roles and different bodies, and equally acknowledge that having different bodies doesn't make women less human. (And we acknowledge that men being stronger than women doesn't make…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:51 PM
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In the animal kingdom the females don’t get a say in who they mate with. Yeah they do? Rape is performed in very few animal species. A male can't waste his energy chasing down one unreceptive female, especially if she responds violently, since risking a blow to the wrong place or spending all of his time chasing one female risks him wasting the entire mating season. Not to mention that most social animals are matriarchal (since the leadership is done by the oldest female who knows the group and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:22 PM
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This. And it's not about living like animals or anything: Women objectively take more risk in mate selection. We're a sexually dimorphic species, with females smaller than males, and we are affected by great risk from pregnancy and child birth. It's not appeal to nature, it's acknowledging that the pattern is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:20 PM
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A woman being a virgin displays mental strength, an ability to resist temptation. Or just bad luck. Ain't any interesting guys around her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:14 PM
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Shouldnt you keep girls out of an organization if it has rape issues? Yes, but people are more afraid of gay rape than straight rape. The boy scouts folded to pressure by families to allow girls in, because apparently it sexist to have by only scouts but not sexist to have girl only scouts As I said, they folded purely because of money and because boys weren't supporting them. They needed membership. This "feminists were forcing them" narrative is largely a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:13 PM
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At least you admit you're just trolling. Sucks, as it could have been an interesting conversation. Ah, well, see you around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:01 AM

Civility is a rule on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:46 AM
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Are you going to actually defend your point, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:40 AM
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How else would you interpret "has enough money to support himself, has physical size, and has dominance/self-confidence needed to approach a partner"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:23 AM
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(Not OP) Financially supporting yourself =/= cognitively supporting yourself. The part of the brain that process long-term consequences doesn't develop until your early 20s. 18 year olds have no understanding of what it means to be an adult in the adult world with equal adult peers, and will act out to impress older people in order to "demonstrate" their place as adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:16 AM
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For context of that situation: The Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts are two separate organisations. the Girl Scouts didn't want girls in Boy Scouts. The Boy Scouts were actively dying due to lack of membership when they decided to add girls. They literally only added girls because there weren't enough boy applicants to keep the company alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:10 AM
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Larger size, higher income, and dominant personality are all strengths. By your logic, women are interested in men who are strong and independent. Valuing virginity is valuing stupidity about sex and oneself. It's valuing ignorance. A weakness. By your own admission, women want to encourage and strengthen men. Men want to discourage and weaken women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:04 AM
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Given that OP referred to women as "human females", the depersonification is pretty obvious. Likely a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:44 AM
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OP specified in other comments that by "male spaces" he was referring to fandoms, not spaces designed around being male.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:41 AM
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Unless those spaces are specifically designed around being male, like a proctologist's office, then they aren't male spaces, and women aren't invading them. Women are just participating. For example, I'm in the Bionicle fandom. The book and toy series was primarily advertised to boys and designed around boys' interest, from the protagonists always being 5 males to 1 female, to one villain being incredibly sexualised and portrayed as a busty dominatrix cuckqueen in one of the movies, etc. I have …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:33 AM
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Why would women have to hold the same stupid standard in order to note that it's unfair? The point is that virginity is based on lack of knowledge. Valuing virginity means valuing ignorance. Women don't have to value ignorance to earn the right to point out that it's rather creepy for men to value ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:27 AM
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Interesting. Though the discourse isn't about the rate, it's about the issues that arise from it. In the same vein, we complain about, say, pedophilia, way more than it actually happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:51 PM
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That's fair. Do you think actual trends are in any way affected by social grooming? (For example, divorce being seen as shameful, divorce being expensive, the idea that a marriage ending meant all of the time married was wasted, etc)? As in, if a person could say "I love my wife, but I just don't want to live with her anymore. I would like to split things off friendly, equally divvy up any childcare and child support payments, not have to pay alimony, and no one will see me as a bad person, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:37 PM
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Okay, let's start with an easy point: What do you think is the reason I gave why couples are likely to split up after 20 years? Your answer will show me whether you're trolling and not here for an honest conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:22 PM
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It's not my fault that you speak confidently about a group of people that you clearly have no experience in. But I do find it interesting that you refuse to actually respond to the points I make. Strawman after strawman. I explicitly refuted your "board" comment, which given how you misspelled "bored" again, proves that you're not reading my responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:46 PM
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What? You might want to edit your comment, it has several misspelled words that make it hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:44 PM
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Your saying that we naturally will grow incapable after 20 years Incompatible, not incapable. Basically, think back on all of the people who were close to you 10 years ago. How many of them are still in your life today? People change over time. Sometimes, they change in small ways (ex. I keep my hair a different colour now than I did 10 years ago). Some people change in big ways (A couple are both atheists, then one has a religious experience and goes full Conservative Christian while the other …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:51 PM
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Take age gap discourse for example, women will tell you that they will absolutely not date someone more than 2 years older than them. That's not the age gap discourse. The age gap discourse isn't just about a man being older at all, or any couple happening to be 10 years apart. It's about a woman who has barely been an independent adult for that long and a man who is well-established into adulthood. Basically, things outside of the "Half your age plus seven" range. Another example is people tell…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:08 PM
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It's not. Eugenics is when the government or other power outside of the specific couple controls reproduction. One person choosing for themselves alone is not eugenics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:05 PM
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The average man and woman before modern labour laws worked a strict over 9-5 schedule hours (they worked from dawn to dusk) and generally did not have weekends. Also, neither the average man nor woman left far from home because towns were walkable before modern transportation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:44 PM

What do most old couples hate each other? Growing apart doesn't mean hate. Quite the opposite: If I love someone, I want to see them happy. If they happen to have grown in a way that makes them incompatible with me, and now they're unhappy, then I want them to be happy because I love them, and will let them go if that is the best way to make them happy. It's sad, but it's life. People change as the years pass, nothing wrong with that. Some people change compatibly, some people happen not to. , t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:02 AM

I didn't say we're just mammals, I pointed out that every animal that is anywhere close to our level of sapience, lifespan, and social ability communal raises. This is because communal raising is the most efficient way to care for children that are high-sapient, long-living, and highly social. We arnt dogs or cows. Neither of which fit my specifications (dogs aren't long-living, and cows aren't stupid, but they're not high-sapience) (Ironically, dogs are lifelong monogamous and live less than 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:23 AM
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Grandparents, cousins, siblings, other parent friends, etc. Today in general our society is too split up and individualistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:11 PM
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I think the thing that really damage mutual effort was the nuclear family. Every other social, high-sapience, long-lived mammal communal raises. The reason women get so exhausted is because we're not supposed to have all caretaking of our children done by one person or 50/50 two people.. We and our relationships just aren't evolved for that, and struggle to handle it without being forced/pressured to. We acknowledge that in some part given that we have public school (kids taken care of by multip…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:01 PM
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he is mad that he has been used for attention, walks, jokes, learning materials and favours without anything in return He got attention, walks, jokes, learning materials, and likely at least some favours in return. The reason he doesn't see friendships with women the way he sees them with men, is because he sees friendship with men as socializing, and "friendships" with women as transactional. He has chosen to do that. I doubt he keeps a list of all of the favours he has done for his male friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 06:07 PM
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Yes, that's why that period didn't last long and was incredibly novel for the human experience. There were large(er than average) women suddenly being forced into the home, and there was economic shifting and challenges as a result, and then many of those women clawed their way back.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:50 PM
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Both. Rather than have every woman working in their own kitchen, one home (or the church) would have a communal kitchen where many of the women would work. Some of the homes would have various types of textile mills.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:53 PM
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It was forced. Women could be legally denied jobs and promotions, so even if they worked, they couldn't support themselves. And abortion wasn't legal until over halfway through the 1900s, which meant a woman could be impregnated by her husband against her will and forced out of work. Not to mention that a big push behind prohibition was about how men would take the family savings and drink it away, and their wives couldn't do anything about it. Women couldn't avoid that by not marrying, because …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:19 PM
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In the mid 1900s, after the men returned from the World Wars. You're right that women always worked, because we've never had a consistent time in history where we could afford to not have women working. I was referring to how men today look at how in the mid 1900s, women were literally forced to stay home and take care of their kids, and men believe that women have always done that and that men have always been the "providers".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:06 PM
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I can't, its paywalled. And husbands' domicile/land would be external communal labor force, since rather than every woman cook for, sew for, clean for, etc, only her own children, various families would own community kitchens, linen cleaning areas, textile mills, crop mills, etc, and various women and children would work at them. Day-to-day tasks required more hands and time before modern inventions, so you couldn't have one woman only doing domestic work for her own family.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:06 PM
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There has virtually never been a time in history outside of a few decades in the mid 1900s where the majority of women stayed in their own house only tending to their own kids. Society has never been able to function with that much of the workforce not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:49 PM
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Women always had to as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:30 PM
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If you want to bring evolution into this, you'd have to keep in mind that lifelong monogamy is virtually non existent in any mammal that lives over 20 years, and that every social, long-living, high-sapience mammal, including all of our primate relatives, and including humans' ancestors and human societies beyond 150 years ago, are communal raisers. The nuclear family is incredibly inefficient in raising high-sapience, long-lived, social species children. The best lifestyle is that grandmothers …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:06 AM
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The "provider" thing is stupid, anyway. Men forced women out of the workforce and then used that to claim that men's purpose is to provide for women, when what we should always have been doing is have that equality/equity. Everyone should provide for society what he or she is capable of providing. It's like if a guy stands around smacking his head against a tree, and insists that by doing so, he is blocking this tree from the potential of you accidentally hurting yourself by running into it. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:02 AM
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Of course not, until men are the ones that have to take time off for pregnancy and birth, and until formula can be as nutritionally excellent and custom as milk (formula is good, but milk directly from the breast is better, as the nipple can sense the baby's needs through its saliva and change the milk's content to match). Women will always have a slight disadvantage in the workforce there. Employers will pass them up for promotions, and women will have to sacrifice their work ethic for their ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 07:58 AM
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Raising children is important, but there was no reason for each woman to waste her time raising only her own kids, when she could be out serving the community, and one woman could take care of her and three other women's kids. I keep telling you why the women had to be out: the community could not afford 60-70% of the population (all women and most kids) not doing textiles, food making, farm work, and other manufacturing for the community. There was physically too much community work to do for o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:05 AM
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And other duties. Textiles and food were one of the biggest factors: We need fabric for clothes, blankets, fishing nets, sails, etc, and before modern inventions, no one person could make all of the food her family needed for the day by herself. Women would often work in textile mills and large community kitchens.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:55 PM
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They almost always stayed home and their primary job was having and raising children. As I said, no, their primary job couldn't be having and raising kids because the society couldn't have functioned without the women and kids in the workforce. You're right they weren't getting paid, though, since they were considered either doing a service to society, or their husband would get the pay. Usually for childcare, you'd have maybe 4 women and their over age 10 kids all working in a textile mill, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:52 PM
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In the same way as masturbation doesn't count as sex. They see sex with a prostitute as basically equivalent to using a fleshlight that happens to be warm and expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:15 PM
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A lot of assumptions there. Not very useful conversation for you to tell me what I do and do not know. And even presuming women have power over men, it's possible to have a type of power without knowing it (ex. Men may not realise that their presence is physically imposing and might be scary to a woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:48 PM
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I was referring to specifically the incel community.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:47 PM
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And for women, it's not that. Sex is a way to socially bond and connect, so when women see men talk about their sex events, they have no idea that men aren't doing that to be friendly, they are doing it to compete. They talk about it in a friendly and casual manner, so we just assume that they're being as casual as their tones sound. We have no idea that their casual tones are actually a form of passive aggression/competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:04 PM
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I talk about lots of things with my friends that they don't experience. I have a friend who wants to have cats, but can't because she's allergic, and I chat about the antics my cats get into. My friends chat about events they went to that I would have liked to attend, but wasn't able to. It's likely that she didn't see it as "bragging", just casual conversation about what she's been up to lately. Especially with how women often are told that men like to chat to each other about their sexual enco…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:42 PM
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That's often the point. If the man is never on-screen or public, then she can pretend that the trad wife lifestyle will bag you a handsome, hunky man, without him having to do any work to actually present himself or look good. Keep in mind that women tend to prefer erotica/written things to images, so it's way easier for her to use her female viewers' imagination if she makes sure they never actually see her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:41 PM
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I was using the "promote" definition of "sell". She doesn't directly gain anything from her viewers, but she's likely on board with or being pushed by her conservative husband. (She is also likely getting advertiser funding) Basically, alpha male dudebros want to push the narrative that being an alpha male dudebro will guarantee you a woman. But in order to do that, he needs women pushing the idea to other women that they should want alpha male dudebros.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:26 PM
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Women have always been able to work, but that doesn’t mean they did (if we’re defining work as paid work that is, not work around the house). Keep in mind that before modern industrialisation, you couldn't afford to have 60-70% of the population (women and children) not providing services to the community. Things we take for granted today took more hands and time to accomplish. Women didn't just stay home taking care of kids, because she would be working on the jobsite with her kids. And if a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:10 PM
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I think it's also interesting that physical sports tend to only be popular when the rules are specifically designed to cater to men's strength. I saw once a video of a woman doing American Ninja Warrior by relying more on her lower body than upper body. She looked nothing like any male ANW, and she looked way cooler and flowed through the steps way easier. But she didn't do it "right", because "right" is the male way. Likewise with things like Foot Archery and Ballet. We don't treat those like r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:49 PM
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Incels pretty famously hate prostitutes. They think it doesn't count if she doesn't actually want him for him, and just wants him for his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:31 PM
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There's been an increase in conservative tradwife content lately, often made by rich women who can afford housekeepers (hence why they have so much time to film themselves "making cereal from scratch" and run their influencer accounts). They make SAHM life look very easy and fun, because they're trying to sell the life to young women who don't know any better. This is also why there's been this false notion lately that feminism "made women work" (when really, women have always been a part of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:28 PM
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I mean, yeah, all of the highest sapience, longest living, social species are communal raisers, with children generally raised by moms, sisters, aunts, and grandmothers, and fathers and brothers primarily taking a role to guide teenage boys. And we know that as well, which is why we always instinctively create that: before the modern era, kids were generally communally raised by most female relatives in the area (town/village/farm), and in the modern era, where we are more spread out and cut off…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:53 PM
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Because we're a social sex species. It's in our nature to bond over sex, hence why our art and stories have been filled with it and we've been making dildos and contraceptives since before recorded history. Even our closest primate ancestors have social sex. It's also why our sex-to-conception rate is one of the lowest of mammals, and why we desire sex at all parts of the month even though we're only fertile 1-2 days of the month. Females desiring sex when not ovulating is very rare in the anima…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:08 AM
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Oh, you mean like guys don't generally think "Wow, I'm expendable! That's my purpose in life!" Yeah, I agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:46 PM
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I mean, the guy I'm responding to just said he and his dad consciously choose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:38 PM
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Civility is a rule on this sub. As is good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:24 PM
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No, really? I thought it was invented by aliens as an excuse to watch Earthlings flail around naked. Although by your own logic, it was invented by humans for gods, and those gods had no problem presenting themselves as animals, elements, etc, so I see no reason why the guy who would turn himself into a bull to fuck a girl would have a problem with bulls participating in the Olympics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:50 PM
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If the only thing that matters was objective physical prowess, then the Olympics should include polar bears and cheetahs and no human would ever win. Human males are physically weaker and slower than most animals of a mass anywhere similar to a human's. That's why we have leagues: Men's, Women's, Mixed, Children's, Regional, Disabled, Weight-Class, and even animal leagues, like racing horses, tortoises, and dogs, showing cats and dogs, etc. In every other situation, we're totally fine with point…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:47 PM
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And it makes evolutionary sense for men to feel that way. Women generally evolved to live longer and be more durable, men evolved to burst, impregnate, and then die. My closest male friend just had two kids and turned 40, and he vented to me once about how he feels like his body is just done now. He's done his part. Of course, I don't want my husband to die, hence why I don't expect it from him, but if it's basically in men's genes to want to sacrifice themselves for the family, it makes some se…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:05 PM
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Not really. It would be appreciated, but we can't control what our response to fear is, so if his response is to save himself, I won't fault him for that. I'll be dead anyway, so it's not like I can sit around stewing on it. Now, if we were, say, being chased by a bear, and he throws me down so it will eat me, then yeah, I'd be pissed as I die. But if he just runs away on his own without thinking about me, that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:15 PM
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All posts are debate posts, There are reasons for different post flairs. "Debate" flair means you have to come in with objective arguments and sources. "Discussion" means you're not held as strongly and don't have to disagree with the OP. "Q4W/M" means it's asking the Women/Men their subjective opinions on things, and why they have those opinions. If you came to a Q4W, saw me state my opinion and perspective, and then your response was to call me a liar, then you're not coming here in good will.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:11 PM
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Oh, I agree. It's not the point of your or my argument, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:08 PM
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This is a Q4W post, not a debate post. And even if it was a debate post, "Nuh-uh" isn't a good debate response. There is nowhere for the conversation to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:20 PM
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Creepiness isn't overused, but it is subjective, both on the person, and on the emotions they happen to be feeling at the time, so it's not really possible to put one answer on it. "Creepy" is kind of like words like "Pretty" or "Ugly" or "Mean" or "Friendly". There are some things we all can agree are "Mean", like randomly attacking someone and beating them up, but I might think that someone is mean for calling me "cunt", but that same person just lives in a society like Australia where the slu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:17 PM
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but the perspective tend to tell people "Women are wonderful" while men are devalued to the point of being evil by just existing The "Women are Wonderful" thing confuses me. Even in your OP, you want to discuss what men experience, and discuss it as "women are achieving the default, men are told the default isn't good enough" and that your post is about men being devalued. But you still call it "Women are Wonderful". Every time I see someone use that phrase, it seems like they want to vent about…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:56 PM
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Attractiveness does play a role, but that doesn't mean location doesn't. If I'm at the gym, I won't even look at you, so I won't notice if you're attractive or not. It's dangerous for me to stop focusing on my workout, depending on what I'm doing at the time. Basically, if the location is something where you need to focus, then there's a massive chance that cold approach is not going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:15 PM
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So basically, most young women nowadays at some point end up having a short-term fling or sexual situation-ship with a handsome, masculine Chad who’s 6'4", built like a QB, and has a 7" dick. No, most women don't. he doesn't have to do the chores and he could well have dirty apartment, have a sweaty ass and you'll still want to lick his asshole. I have never seen a straight woman talk/think like this, but I've seen plenty of gay men talk/think like this. Letting us know something, OP? after you’…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:15 PM
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At least you admit you're trolling. I mean, you did that a while ago, but I was hoping you'd at least identify Myron, since I was legitimately curious. Ah well, see ya around.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:47 PM
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Says the guy who can't read flairs apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:09 PM
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I looked up "Myron" and the first result is a Greek sculptor. Given that Mannosphere occasionally does take things from Greek philospohers, I presume that's to whom you're referring? It's also a type of oil, a type of snake, an Archbishop, a character from a game, a character from a book, a song, and the name of a different book. Is the book Myron about Red Pill philosophy? Are you quoting the Archbishop or one of the two characters? I legit have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:48 PM
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If you make a reference on a debate subreddit, you're responsible for providing context. You can't just drop a given name and demand people Google for the name, or they might come up with the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:32 PM
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Nah, influencers come and go. It's not too weird for a concept to be popular, but a specific name to happen not to be heard of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:40 PM
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Maybe it could possibly have something to do with the fact that we're a social species. Also, the majority of people burned for witchcraft were women, and "witchcraft" literally just meant "whatever the (male) religious leaders didn't like. A lot of our social norms are created by men or male religious/group leaders. But besides that, men absolutely have a herd mentality, and do things to impress both their peers and women. They just don't do as much stereotypically "feminine" things, like using…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:37 PM
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It's some nature, some nurture. For example, you can't have a fetish for, say, pony play, if you live in a society that has no horses or any equivalent animals. Some fetishes are more common in different societies than others, because those fetishes are partially created from their social environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:01 PM
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I might get a little weirded out by some misogynistic or abusive elements, like implying that looking feminine makes you stupid (like some versions of bimbofication), upsetting people on purpose to trick them into humiliating him without their consent of participation to his fetish, or stealing my clothes/undergarments without consent, which is not unheard of from men with those fetishes. Otherwise, as long as he's not hurting anyone (me and my property included), I don't care. You do you. Domin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:59 PM

Merry Christmas, OP, and to all of the rest of you. I've had a lot of fun debates in this sub, and I appreciate the mental exercises I get from them. Here is to another great year of a bunch of lonely guys and gals keeping each other company, teaching each other, and learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 02:08 PM
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Yes, I'm bi and can experience it when I'm with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:11 AM
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For clarity, mine does not require actual physical contact between my genitals and the thing I'm humping. It can, but it can also be purely psychological. Mine is actually AAP, not just contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:19 PM
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Yep, Autogynephilia and Autoandrophilia are 100% real. The myth aspect of them is the idea that all trans people are them. You can be an AGP/AAP and be trans, or just be AGP/AAP without being trans/ trans without being AGP or AAP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:41 AM
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I'm poly. The reason I like people and am not exclusive, is because my partner(s) and I understand that everyone has needs, and not everyone can 100% fit someone else's needs. I will never be able to find one person who fits every single need I have. How Mono people deal with that is by sacrificing needs. How Poly people deal with that is by communicating alternate ways to get the unmet needs met. Neither is a better or worse option, it's just different for different people. I do agree with you …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:10 AM

It's shocking to me seeing just how many women think the majority of men are rapists or would rape a woman. No one thinks the majority of men are rapists. What they point out accurately is that the average rapist looks and acts identical to the average man. And that many men feel very entitled to sexual access/are socially groomed to see a woman not wanting to have sex with him is her personally slighting him. If it was the other way around, men generalising women, it would be all over the news …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:07 AM
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There are a bunch of different orgasms I can get. Weakest to strongest is: G-Spot: Through fingering. This feels like very little. I don't wear out from it. Anal: Feels more than G-Spot, but not enough for me to ever really crave it. Pleasure is localised around genitals and head. I don't wear out from it. Clitoral (general): Pretty strong, especially because these can easily stack. The first isn't usually so big, but I can have another every 20 seconds or so. Pleasure is usually localised aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:03 PM
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And can't tell your kid has a smelly dick unless your conducting penis checks on your child. Which you should be doing until your child is old enough to be trusted to bathe independently. If your child can't consistently clean their body, including their genitals, without prompting, then they're not ready to bathe without assistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:33 PM
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Exactly. Brushing teeth is harder than cleaning foreskin, so if the kid has brushed teeth and balanitis, that's proof that the "but I have to cut the skin off so he won't have to clean it" is not a valid excuse. That is the parents proving that they could teach him to clean his dick, but willfully choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:42 PM
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Are parents comparing their sons penis to other boys pensis ? Yes. The common excuse the parents use is "I don't want him to look weird", and from the dad, "I want him to have an easier time getting laid" and "I want his to look like mine." It's weird as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:01 PM
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It's because girls don't develop inner labia until puberty I already addressed that. There are three different types of flappy bits that girls have that need to be cleaned, two of which are on infants, and can easily get infected because even wiping the wrong way can get feces stuck in them: the outer labia and the clitoral hood are both on infants. You can't pull a babies teeth because they don't have any I meant pull them as soon as they start teething. They just require a lot more maintenance…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:48 PM
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I never saw a little girl with a similar issue. That's because girls clean it. We get a female version of smegma as well. The foreskin is basically the same as our clitoral hood, and the rest of the labia, including the outer labia, definitely gets gunk in it. Hell, during infancy, the baby can get feces in her labia, which you have to clean, and will also get feces in her labia if you don't teach her how to properly wipe front to back. We have the clitoral hood and outer labia at birth. My moth…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:16 PM
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Yeah, that's true for any of the excess covering parts of the body like ears, hair, nails, labia, etc. When you have kids, you have to clean them, and then teach your kids to clean themselves. It's so bizarre to me that people would rather chop off a healthy, protective part of their child's body than just teach them how to clean it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:38 AM
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For the Circumcision front, it's primarily a thing because of Western Christians and Jews, and purity culture, and Conservative Christians do have power in the West. Among those who aren't conservative Christian or Jewish in USA, it's pushed because the Christians are so prevalent about it, that even the Atheist/Liberals do it because they don't want their boys looking comparatively odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:18 AM
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I recommend you actually make a debate post about that, if you really care to discuss it. This is a Q4W post, not a debate post, and your debate is irrelevant to the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:10 AM
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The work was always demanding, and the household was also at the fields. Kids worked too. Kids and women staying home and not working is a very recent phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:09 AM
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I didn't say it's a stop everything kind of deal, but the fact that you have to teach women how to work around it proves my point that it's not as simple as "Well, men can just bottlefeed pumped milk, problem solved".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:50 PM
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Breastfeeding is hard and painful, so I don't blame a woman who doesn't want to do it. It's better for the baby, but harder on the mother, and mom's gotta balance what she can handle versus what she provides.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:46 PM
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Did you mean to respond this to me? I didn't say anything even closely to what you're responding to, so you may have gotten me mixed up with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:44 PM
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Presuming that you want to go the formula route. My comment is about the route I would like to take, and I wouldn't like to deprive my baby of the benefits of breastmilk, especially straight from the breast, unless absolutely neccesary (such as a medical issue preventing breastfeeding). Our nipples can sense what the baby needs based on its saliva, and change the breast milk to match.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:43 PM
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all I’m saying is those “social constructs” you despise Another strawman. I never said I didn't like social constructs. I have no feelings toward the concept of social constructs, I just want us to acknowledge that that's what they are. Paternity fraud is most definitely an evolutionary fear for men. Kinda, but as I said, it's inherently inefficient for us (I listed the reason why in my previous comment). Saying “humans should act like mammals because they don’t pair more than 20 years” is an ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:23 PM
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So you think pairbonding is fine until you hit 40 or you face any adversity? This is another strawman. I didn't even mention adversity or specific ages. Basically, think about how many friends from 10 years ago that you still have now. Probably a few, and probably not all of them. We change as we experience things, and we don't all change the same way from the same experience. Some people get lucky and happen to stick it to the end, other people happen to grow in ways that make them still compat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:05 PM
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You are saying lust is a larger human push than relationship. I say bullshit. I never said that. We are a social sex species, so our interest in sex is beyond just lust, it's a prominent part of how we create society. That's why a lot of our art and nature is built on sex, why contraceptives are so old that abortifacients are mentioned in the Bible, why male humans have the largest penis-to-body ratio of any animal that has our level of flexibility, and why I have repeatedly told you to stop str…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 10:43 PM
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Yes, but you're not a farmer when you only tend the field when you have free time of your main function. Her main function was farming. The children farmed as well, so she wasn't primarily tending to them. They were also tending to each other. The rest of your responses are just "Nuh-uh" without any actual arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 09:57 PM
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I get where you're coming from as well, and I think you're coming at it from a more general perspective than a personal once, hence why it's not really an answer to my specific personal issues. Hybrid/remote jobs make it even more complicated, though, since you'd have maternal hormones flaring every time you'd hear the baby cry. I have a friend with a 4 year old and year old, and I've seen so much of that. Basically, your options are to work out of the house, but still set aside time to pump at …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:58 PM
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That's why I think it's best for one of us to work part-time and the other to work full-time. We definitely shouldn't both have to work full-time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:50 PM
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They did not "work" they would help tend the field, even factory work was a minimal part of it mostly textile work. Tending a field is work, as is factory work. Textile work is a major part of our society, especially before the invention of modern machinery. We're a species that hasn't been able to regulate our temperature and been prone to sunburn for thousands of years. Sails on sailing ship are made of fabric. As are fisher's nets, bedding, sacks for storing things, etc. One of the reasons th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:49 PM
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But men can bottle feed for pumping mothers. The mother still has to pump, though, which takes hours out of her day. Don't get me wrong, I agree that a man can help with childcare. My point is that it's just easier to schedule around me doing it rather than him trying to work around doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:43 PM
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The vast majority of couples are monogamous. You’re really telling me they were “groomed” into thinking that way? The vast majority of society teaches that if you aren't monogamous, you're a failure as a person. No Fault Divorce wasn't even legal until less than a century ago. My own mother believes that my lack of hymen (which I was born without) means no man will ever pairbond with me at all. So, yes, the social grooming is pretty obvious. Shame hurts in a social species. Or do you think it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:41 PM
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I recommend you to separate a bunch of apes that discovered fire to the set of behaviors that produced the people that stepped on the moon. By recent, I meant "a few decades in the mid 1900s". Up until the mid 1900s, women generally did factory and farm work, which was the primary labour being done and required way more people to do before the invention of modern machines. Nuclear families with Stay At Home moms has never been our primary way of doing things. Women just weren't allowed to contro…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:33 PM
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That’s why you get a special feeling around your husband or wife, why you long for them. We literally have evolved within our hormones and bonding systems for monogamy. We don't know that, because state-enforced monogamy and wife-ownership under religions like Christianity is socially groomed into us. We don't really know what humans are naturally like without that amount of social grooming. It's like how we think nudity is morally wrong and disgusting, but there is no biological reason to think…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:20 PM
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Never heard of that one. I was more referencing the parenting styles of the other high-sapience social species, the general understanding of why menopause and gay people exist (more hands caring for kids without making kids of their own) and recent anthropological findings that ancient women were just as likely to hunt and whatnot as men were.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:15 PM
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I think in general you have to be very careful about criticism about sex. It's a very vulnerable situation, and most people don't want to hear that you didn't like what they thought they were putting their heart and soul into, unless they specifically asked. Your advice is definitely good for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:09 PM
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But I don't think I'd be able to utilise weaponized incompetence quite like men do. I'd feel bad pretending I don't know how to properly put away the leftovers I'm tomboy to hell and back, but I still end up in the kitchen during Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners. I just can't stand sitting around chatting like all of the men do, and leaving my mother and grandmothers to all of the cooking and cleaning work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:03 PM
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Technically, the evolutionary standard for high-sapience social species is that the family unit is primarily made of the mother, her mother, her aunts, sisters, etc. Fathers are around in Great Apes, like gorillas, chimpanzees, and bonobos, but nuclear family monogamy is incredibly inefficient for long-lived high-sapience species, and "Men go out and hunt, women all stay home" is a super recent trend in human history. Early human societies couldn't afford to have half the population stay in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:02 PM
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It's become a socially accepted punchline to demean men by joking about how they don't "last long" or can't find the clit. While the average woman just...lays there and expects men to do all work ? The head that a good many give is either toothy and borderline painful or just awkward and doesn't hit the spot. While I do generally agree with "You get what you give" in terms of picking on people, these are insanely different things. There's definitely a difference between a man not finding a spot …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:36 PM
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I'm generally not looking for a SAHH because even if he's staying at home, he's not going to be pregnant, give birth, or lactate, so I'll still have to do the primary childcare for 3 years (one for the pregnancy, and 2 for the nursing) and risk serious disability, both of which will tank my career, so might as well not risk it. Otherwise, if we don't ever have kids, and my career could afford it, then I wouldn't mind it. But it is a bit weird for me to be contributing financially and him to not …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:32 PM
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It's a rather interesting comparison: 6 foot is an actual number measurement, while "fat" could be anything from "not anorexic" to "has lots of fat, but only in the specific places I like", to "actual obesity". At least women are specific. When women complain about being told to be "Not fat", it's often women who are legitimately a healthy weight- Like I have never reached even up to the higher end of "Normal" in the BMI, but even I am self-conscious about the potential that I might look fat. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:53 PM
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What's true? I said a few things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:39 PM
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What? The spelling and grammar- Not being coy, I legitimately have no clue what you are saying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:29 PM
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Tbf, the OP post didn't say men have "high" standards, just standards in general. The last sentence clarifies that. It looks like she's trying to confront the "Women are the picky ones, while us men literally give no shits except that she gives me sex." meme that goes around sometimes. Or the mentality of men getting mad when he isn't picked, and believing that no woman knows what it's like to be rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:07 PM
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I'd recommend him read some Feminist literature. Invisible Woman is a good one, which talks about the problems with male defaultism even in today's world, in everything from safety equipment, to medicine. The "What Were You Wearing" exhibit was also one that really hit me, showing how women's sexual abuse primarily occurs because women are female, not for their behaviour, clothing choice, etc. I also would want to look at any studies he has read that may have strengthened his beliefs. And I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:44 PM
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"Good man" depends on what she wants in a man. I'd advise that she list her "Needs" (He has to have this), "Wants" (Would be nice if he has this), and "Bad" (He can't have this). We could work out where to best find men who check off all Needs, as many Wants as possible, and no Bads. For example, if he Needs to be of her religion, I would recommend her check in her religious meeting place. If he Needs to be okay with dogs, I'd suggest she casually bring up her dogs in conversation on any first d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:35 AM
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I'm not sure what your question has to do with the quoted line.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:33 PM
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I was born to a Conservative mother and a Liberal father. I generally have been in both liberal and conservative circles, from the female perspective, and I have seen my findings pretty equally across both spectrums. The liberal men are just as willing to turn on women as conservative men and hold them more accountable than they hold liberal men: more so, I've noticed, since conservative men generally know they'd get picked on for picking on women, but liberal men are much quicker to brand the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 11:08 PM
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For example, when someone says that older men who specifically seek younger women are creepy, the socially acceptable response usually isn’t to reject the claim entirely. I find the exact opposite. The most common response I see is complete shifts of the focus from the man to the woman. Complain about old men creeping on barely legal girls, the high risk of the average John using a trafficked or non consenting prostituted woman, or even the idea of sexual sadism, and the immediate response is "M…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:13 PM
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Sexual health means health related to sex. Things like: Regular medical check-ups. Education on contraceptives. Education on how to properly wash genitals, and the potential correlation between unwashed genitals and UTIs (as I understand it, female UTIs often correlate with the unwashed state of her partner's penis). Education about appropriate amounts of masturbation (warning about excessive masturbation potentially causing things like erectile dysfunction, if that's true, about ensuring that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 06:55 PM
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Women who don't go into higher careers are also split into two categories: the ones who are bullied or socialised out of them (which would be comparable to the men who are bullied by their bosses not to do safety procedures) and the ones who choose not to take them purely out of their own volition (which would be comparable to the men who choose to ignore safety procedures). The wage gap complaints are not about lots of women choosing not to do high paying careers. Most people in general don't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 06:20 PM
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There is literally no reason for "Conception" to have any relevance as its own step. Conception is just a part of the pregnancy, which exclusively takes place in the woman's body. The steps should only be: All of the years between age of consent and the moment it exits your body. (18 to ejaculation, with the "ejaculation" being ejaculating sperm for male or baby for female.) All of the years after it exits your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:46 AM
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it just pushes back the point where you consider men to be responsible to the sex What are you talking about? I didn't say anything about responsibility, and you keep randomly saying "conception" and ignoring the comparison between ejaculation and birth. Conception is pretty much irrelevant. In order to be consistent, I stated that "Stage One = Age of Consent to Point where Baby-making Product exits the body". Since Stage One is about Bodily Autonomy, Stage One is exclusively about "When your bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:43 AM
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Is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:25 AM
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There is no meaningful differences between the sexes when it comes to conception There is a massive difference: Sperm leaves the man's body. Every part of the baby-making process exits the man's body at ejaculation (hence why his point of exit of Stage 1 is ejaculation, not conception. Conception doesn't occur in his body). Every part of the baby-making process does not exit the woman's body. They do not conceive or birth at the moment of ejaculation, so it makes no sense to count conception. Co…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:08 AM
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Sexism applies when sex is not directly related. For example, it's not sexism to not offer cervix exams to men or prostate exams to women. Likewise, it's not sexist to treat the pregnancy as women's biological role in the development of the child, and ejaculation as the man's biological role. The decision on your part of the biological role is directly related to what part you biologically play.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 12:38 AM
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For the first category, no. The victims are the workers, the perpetrator is the boss. The boss is solely to blame for forcing unsafe working conditions on his workers. For the second category, there is no victim, as it's a Self-Harm scenario. Self-Harm doesn't really have a victim/perpetrator setup.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:08 PM
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I hear that a lot but I usually see some wild posts on Reddit over the years that seem to paint it as pretty common. Because people who don't pay alimony aren't going on Reddit to complain about how they're not paying alimony. Survivorship bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:06 PM
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In my mind, there are two stages of child abandonment: The stage where the child does not yet exist in the world. This stage occurs between the age of consent of the parent, and the point in which they complete their part in creating the child (for men, it's age of consent to ejaculation in a woman. For women, it's age of consent to birth of child). In this stage, each party is allowed to abandon his or her process in creating the child, but is not allowed to control the other party's role in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:05 PM
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Source And one of the studies that go into the methodology of recognising the myth. And to your other comment about women mostly staying home and taking care of kids, the reason we have menopause is so grandmothers can take care of kids without making more of their own. That's likely also the reason homosexuality is prevelant. This is also what we see in other high-sapience social species, like whales, other Great Apes, and elephants,
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:52 PM
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Men hunted, fought, built, enforced. Of note, the reason we believe this is because we kept digging up skeletons and then sexing them based on what was buried with them: weapons or building tools, we would just assign them as male. Recently, we started actually genetically sexing the skeletons, and found that many of those warrior, hunter, and builder skeletons were female. The idea that most women didn't fight, hunt, or build is a comparatively very recent trend of our history. We're a pathetic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:27 PM
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I'm not a hardcore Christian, but I am a man and I've definitely been hit on many times over the years by gay men. I don't see why it would be any different for Christians. Hardcore Christians are usually not the kinds of guys that gay men want, is the point there. They don't go to places that gay men tend to socialise, they often make their Hardcore Christianity very clear, which the gay men take as a sign not to bother, and they often don't ping the "Gaydar", so to speak. Certainly one could h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:07 PM
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So push for the laws to exist. Stealthing didn't become recognised because some lawmaker thought about it one day. Only very recently did countries start passing laws about it, and that's because people pushed their lawmakers to do so. If you want the laws to exist, you have to actually put work in, just like women did to get the Stealthing laws to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:20 PM
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You know how hardcore Christians are convinced that gay people will frequently hit on and harass them, but that doesn't really happen? Unlike with them, it does happen to us with balding old men. The reason we think about them is because they forced us to think about them since we were young. I was 16 or so when a 70 year old man walked up to me in my place of work and told me "I wish my wife looked like you". I was around the same age when a guy followed me around in his car while I was on a wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:15 PM
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My observations is that society in general is losing social skills. The men who spend time here are, like me, the kind of people who have even less than average social skills, so struggle more in social areas. The men and women who have better social skills also have better things to do than hang out on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:29 PM
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Workplace fatalities is also men on men violence. It's often either: Boss, who is likely male, trying to get more work out of his workers, so pressures them to ignore safety procedures (ex. trucking is one of the most dangerous jobs, because truckers are required to drive long spans of time on too-little sleep, so get into lots of accidents). Men choosing to ignore safety procedures out of habit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:00 PM
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Medicine generally ignores women's symptoms Medical research is largely done on male bodies as well, so most medicine and treatments, and standard things in our day-to-day life like the size of handheld objects, workspace temperatures, car seats, crash test dummies, safety equipment, etc, are designed with the average male body in mind. Constantly having to fit in a society that physically is not designed for you to fit in starts to stack up discomfort after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:56 PM
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Here's the thing...how did men not only fall for this, but take pride in doing so? Because we're a social species. Women take pride in the sacrifices they make (hence why women who don't have/want kids or put their careers first get shamed, women who work rather than rely on their husband's income and be SAHMs get shamed, women who give her kids her own surname are treated like she hates her husband, women are shamed for having C-sections and formula rather than birth and breastfeeding, women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:53 PM
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I occasionally downvote, but only because I have an REI extension that shows me how many downvotes I have given a person in the past, so I use it to personally flag people who were toxic and atrocious debaters, so I can steer clear of engaging with them in the future. I don't ever downvote based solely on disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:04 PM
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However it is not applicable to upvotes. Upvotes are about what majority think. No, upvotes are about what people who give upvotes happened to vote for. I don't ever upvote comments in this sub. Doesn't mean I don't agree with any. If I find a thread I don't find interesting, then I don't go into it at all- which means if I was a voter, I wouldn't vote for anything in that thread. It could just be that some voters are more attracted to some threads than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:02 PM
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Or maybe different women have different opinions. Because women aren't a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:59 PM
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You're proving my point by your insistence on sexualising all of your problems and ignoring any point I've made.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:52 PM
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Sure but a huge complaint is the sexual needs not being met, Just because that's a huge complaint doesn't mean that's the primary issue. Men are taught that emotional, physical, and sexual needs must all be met at the same time by the same person, hence why many men find it "gay" to hug, cuddle up to, or vent and talk about emotions to another man. None of those are inherently sexual, but men are taught to believe that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:25 PM
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I've had like three debates on this sub in the past two days that ended with the man assuming my intentions and only arguing with those. For one of them, a guy made a claim, I asked for a source, his source was a news article that was objectively badly written, and when I pointed out the issues with the writing and how it wasn't a good source, he kept calling me "emotional" and stating that I only didn't like the article because it was made by the "woke" BBC. Purple Pill Debates are primarily he…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:11 PM
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I said "like women can with other women" to clarify the non-sexual nature of the needs. You can have physical and emotional needs met non-sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 12:56 PM
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I just listed two male friends I have. You're shooting yourself in the foot with that kind of mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:45 PM
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It wouldn't be as big of a problem if the guy didn't literally use "females" and "guys" in the same sentence, and "Females" and "Men" in the same sentence elsewhere. It's very suspicious that he is perfectly fine using multiple humanised terms for men, but not once use one for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:08 PM
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Females want to be hit on by guys they already know I don't think my cat would appreciate a man hitting on her, even if she knows him. I'd probably call the police.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:05 PM
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I want to be socially approached in social settings. For example, at my library's Craft and Chill event for adults, I would love for other adults to sit with me and chat about our art projects, find things to bond over, and then suggest other places we can hang out, with our mutual interests in mind. I don't mind at some point during one of our hangouts, if he pops the idea of us dating, as long as getting to that question is not the only reason he wants to hang out with me. Also, just because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:05 PM
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Not sure why you act so weirdly or why it has become somehow personal for you, it isn't for me. You're the one who keeps getting emotional when I point out objective issues. It looks like you're desperate for me to be emotional, that you're trying to bait and assume it, rather than honestly address my arguments. Since you're still doing that, it doesn't seem like this conversation is going to go any further, so see you around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:34 PM
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Virtually all human cultures have been fundamentally based on monogamy, Have they? Keep in mind that most of today's history books are written by Christians, or are based on records written by Christians, who looked at the cultures with the Christian lenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:18 AM
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This would make sense if it were it were just incels raping and/or murdering women, but that's not the case. There are lots of reasons somewhat might rape, torture, and murder. I don't have to discuss every single reason at once. Here, I am discussing the fact that "No woman has picked me for sex" or "That specific woman I like turned me down" is one of the reasons. I am discussing that specific line of reasoning, because the OP post is about the conversation of men struggling to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:32 AM
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Obviously you think the number is pretty high Incorrect. Just enough to be notable. given you believe we need to change society around it The reason we need to change society around it is because every man is groomed up to believe that he is a failure of a person, that there is nowhere to get emotional support needs met, if he doesn't get a woman. Which means regardless of what the number is, if the number of men who get women is less than 100%, then the one man who doesn't get one will be miser…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:03 AM
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Yeah, a good chunk is still not an exact number. I just meant "enough that the difference is noticeable". But yeah, I don't want to answer things that stray too far from my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:49 AM
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I asked for your opinion since you're the one making a claim If I had an opinion on that, I would have added it to my claim. There is a reason I just said "A chunk" and "More men in a population than women". That's my understanding. in another comment you said women select the best genes. I didn't say that, that was another person who was also responding to people who responded to me. I think there are all sorts of things women select for, but at the end of the day, women are selecting more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:42 AM
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My claim has nothing to do with exact numbers, nor "worth". Plenty of people reproduce who probably shouldn't, so not reproducing is not necessarily about "worth". It's just about logistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:33 AM
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You do not want to understand my argument At least you admit you're just trolling. Why the hell would I read your question if you're not here to have a conversation? See ya around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:04 AM
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So called "culture" is made from biology. You literally argue against nature. Oh, you're making the "Humans are animals, so everything we do is technically nature and can't be defined as nurture or not natural" argument? It's one of those "What is a chair" type arguments that's designed to be dumb and waste time. I have no clue what any of the rest of your points here mean, or their relation to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:55 PM
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You are saying, that society has made the pressure. I am saying, nature made the pressure. They both made some pressure, but only society made laws that made it so that if a woman walks away from a mate she doesn't like, then a bunch of other unrelated males who don't personally know her or her mate will gang up on her and drag her back to the male against her will. (which was the case back in the early days of women's domestic abuse shelters in the mid 1900s. It was literally illegal to house a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:42 PM
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You literally are saying, that "society" has made the Illusion, that they will find a family. Yeah, my mother was alive at a time in which it was legal to ban a woman from having a bank account without her father or husband's name attached to it, and it was legal to refuse to sell/rent your house to a woman who had kids. In the West, we are literally one generation from when it was legal to ban a woman from living independently from a man. Outside of the west, it's still legal in many countries.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:56 PM
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I am very sorry if it somehow offends you. Dude, I don't care. "Can women be pedos" is a perfectly valid conversation to have. It's just not the specific conversation we're having right now. I even pointed out that the article about the women pedos is actually way better written and sourced. "There's no meaningfully ethical way of taking 200 men, hooking them up to detectors, showing them pictures of adults and children and seeing how many respond most to children." This whole thing started when…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:53 PM
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This is bad biology. Humans are not the same as other mammals. Appeal to Nature fallacy is a thing when the thing of nature is not related to the conversation. It's not a thing when the specific trait is related. The average human male in a population statistically is less likely to mate in his lifetime than the average human female, because as OP stated, we experience attraction differently, and our difference of attraction, while having some learned traits, also has some natural traits built i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:45 PM
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The vast majority of humans reproduced in the past, even during the hunter-gatherer era and beyond. That's a different claim. I'm not saying the 80/20 thing is true or anything, just that statistically, more females of a population naturally mate than males do. For most species, including humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:42 PM
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Don't get me wrong, it might be true, however, you are trying to prepare men for something, you cannot prepare them. I agree that the culture shock will hit men very hard, and will take time for us to shift culture to better support men and help to reduce the social grooming that put so much pressure on them. I feel very badly for men, that they are forced under so much pressure to value something they never should have been made to value so hard, which is completely unhealthy and unrealistic to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:33 PM
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You claim it shares "links", but it shares one link, and it's to another BBC article. And that link and article is just about the fact that women can be pedos as well (ironically, that article is way more objective and detailed). It named "places where the studies were conducted", by naming a few countries where supposedly studies took place. NOT naming the actual websites where the studies are listed, where their methodology can be reviewed. When it does name specific colleges, it only names th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:19 PM
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That's not a source, it's an article, about a guy mentioning surveys without even naming them. It's basically an opinion piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:55 PM
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The truth is that "straight" women don't really experience attraction to men the same way men experience attraction to women. Yeah, that's the point of the existence of the male and female sexes. Females are the default sex that creates- and in mammals case, gestates and nurses- offspring. Males evolved to assist in creating genetic diversity, hence why they have the small gametes that move more, and can't contribute anything directly in childcreation outside of some of the initial blueprints. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:51 PM
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By this logic, any rights are not an idea but instead technology. This is basically true, because bigotry and abuse is born of ignorance, and knowledge leads to technology. Technology does correlate with less bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:58 PM
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Their proto-feminist spiritual ancestors spread their legs for aristocratic men That's a weird way to spell "it was basically legal to rape a woman as long as she was societally pressured into marrying you to 'preserve her honour', and it was legal for her to be abused or thrown out into the streets if she didn't go along with whatever the rich male sexual abuser wanted from her." This episode is quietly buried, for obvious reasons. Proto feminists were written about by Simone de Beauvoir, one o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:56 PM
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"Attractive young women" are in multiple vulnerability categories: Makeup category (groomed to hate themselves and their natural skin, desperate to preserve their youthful appearance) Lack of experience as adults in the adult world category (meaning they are more desperate to appease adults to fit in, and have a harder time recognizing toxic adult behaviour, because they don't have as much experience with red flags) Lack of peers category (Young woman are often ostracised from older adult women,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:27 PM
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If this was true, men would seek out sickly, unattractive women (even extremely fat and downright ugly women with low self-esteem Never heard of chubby chasers or trans man chasers? (the latter is straight men who go after trans men, seeing them as sickly and desperate women who will do anything if you call them a dude). Also, men go after anorexics and bodyshame even physically healthy women, because not getting enough nutrients will affect you mentally. And men go after women who do "nude make…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:20 PM

Actually we’re men who are often not beautiful, jaded, not bubbly, unkind, and pessimistic are looking for beauty subjective appearance, non jadedness lack of experience in the real world, bubbly disposition naive behaviour due to lack of experience in the real world, kindness, and optimistic outlook lack of experience in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:15 PM
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UPPER very frivolous estimate on pedophilia is 5%. Source? And not source on pedophiles who are caught, by the way. Source on the rate of men who feel any sexual attraction toward people under 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:11 PM
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People who make fun of older guys interested in younger women can't help implying that She can do better than you, suggesting logically that Younger women have more options because they are more desirable. As someone who is in the age range in which I'm still being preyed on by older men, yes, older women know we're more desirable: we're more desirable by bad people who want to hurt us. The men who target us over the older women are targeting us because the older women aren't as vulnerable to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:05 PM
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Don't have the attention span. I'd be doing way more advertising of my art, writing, and would make porn of myself, if I had a social media manager handling all of the uploading and schedule-keeping. Basically, if my job was "interact with fans" and "make art/write/photoshoots", and I had someone else to handle all of the "upload the media at the right time and to the right websites, let me know when I am due another art piece/photoshoot/writing of a particular theme", etc, I would do great.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:25 PM

Not even unrealistic beauty standards anyway, it was mainly just don't be fat. This being a time period where lots of traits that are objectively healthy were considered fat, though, like having normal, healthy levels of stomach rolls that appear when you bend over forward, or a muffin top on someone who had several kids. We often forget that in the 1990s and 2000s legitimate anorexia was all the rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:33 PM

When a man says "You don't take accountability", I usually hear it as an honest criticism. Like in your situation with your friend, that is not a woman not taking womanly accountability, that's that specific person not taking it. When I hear a man online say "women don't take accountability", it's often followed by a misogynistic rant. If a man wants to point out a common issue of women often not taking accountability of a specific thing (ex. Women often don't acknowledge when women bodyshame ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:28 PM
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I cook for myself. If my guy happens to be over at a meal time or he's spent the night, I'll cook for him. And he has cooked for me many times, probably more often than I've cooked for him. I've cooked for my friends, as well, and they've cooked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:10 AM
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Looks like you accidentally responded to me again, instead of the person you meant to. I can tell because that other person clearly made a bunch of claims that I never did. I'll mute this, so you can get back to your conversation with them. Looks like a fun one, so good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:33 AM
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Did you mean to respond this to me? Your anecdote and rant aren't related to this conversation. You might have meant this to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:49 AM
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Not really sure how that's related to my point. Also not intending to be offensive, I'm honestly confused. If your point is changing the subject, that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:34 PM
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Women worked menial jobs but they weren't expected to be breadwinners. Women worked mostly the same hours, especially in farms, textile mills, factories, and janitorial jobs. Society couldn't function with the majority of women not working full-time jobs. Women didn't forego husbands and children all for the sake of their careers. Because all of the money she earned went to her father or husband. Women were not allowed to own property or money in their own names throughout most of history. She w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:49 PM
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Women were the ones who wanted to work outside the home and work alongside men Women were already doing that. Almost no point in history involved all or most women staying home and only tending to kids. Women have always been a part of the workforce, and all of the money she earned went to her father or husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:20 PM
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There seems to be a growing pattern of you not engaging with the substance of the argument, instead you’re litigating phrasing in order to neutralise a reality you’re clearly uncomfortable sitting with. Back at ya. You acknowledge porn as extramarital, then dismiss the emotional impact away by claiming women are “naturally” poly and only hurt because they’ve been “groomed” to care. That’s not liberation, that’s asking women to dissociate from their own discomfort so men don’t have to adjust thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:58 PM
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It's because men have historically been more productive in real economic terms. You realise that's still a circle, right? Men value men's labour as more productive. Until the one child policy, men stuck women in the home with back to back babies (and take her away from her mother, sisters, and aunts, who could help raise those babies, giving her more time to work outside the home) and even with the one child policy, men value men's creations more, even though many of China's main exports have be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:01 PM
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It is driven by Grandmothers who want retirement plans. And it was men who decided that the existence of granddaughters would deny the grandmother her retirement plan. Female children leave the family. And it was men who decided that female children leave the family, but male children don't. That female children don't get to carry on the family name, and are just considered the broodmare of her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:38 PM
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You don’t get to say “it’s her house too” as if that magically erases the fact that: he benefits from a cleaner, organised environment without contributing proportionately and again, for free That wasn't your initial claim, though. Your claim was "clean a man’s house for free". Your initial claim wasn't about the nuances of load distribution, it was an exaggeration that the house she is maintaining is completely irrelevant to her. Same with the kid thing. You even contradict yourself by admittin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:23 PM
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or it would have never ceased. It occurred for almost a thousand years, and only stopped early in the 1900s, and the reason it ceased was basically because Chinese traditions in general were being heavily challenged, so that one went too. Several attempts to stop it on its own failed. They do it because they wanted a grandson -- but why do they want a grandson? Because grandsons are culturally liable for aiding the family financially. Female infanticide is driven by men, yeah. Men decided that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:15 PM
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If women are openly for holding other women accountable for things that aren't even problems, like pre-marital sex, then why wouldn't you think women aren't holding women accountable for things that are? OP didn't list any examples, so I have no clue what the "spirit" of the question is. But regardless, everyone else seems to be answering the "spirit" that you want to discuss. I wanted to address from a different direction: Women holding each other accountable regardless of the toxicity, and how…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:22 AM
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My bisexual-ass will never understand this hetero problem. I pay for my girlfriends, they pay for me, we split the bill, etc. This just isn't something people really have to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:38 AM
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When I am at a party, I don't walk away from a man because he's "low value". If I walk away from him, then it's usually because of one of the following: Social anxiety I wasn't there to hook up and I suspected that he is. I didn't realise he wanted an extended conversation. I was doing or thinking about something else and he interrupted me. The conversation was boring. As for the title question: I don't think of "value", but if I think of someone I don't want to date, it's someone who would make…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:36 AM
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Women are constantly groomed to hold other women accountable, including for things they didn't even do. Female Genital Mutilation, Foot Binding, etc, were usually performed by women on their own daughters, because she knew that if her daughter didn't have those things, she'd upset the men around her, never get a good husband, and suffer. My own mother called me out for "losing my hymen" (even though I've never had one). "Not like the other girls" is a common phrase that women use to say "You're …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:51 PM
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Sure, but you’re also cleaning up after a grown man who benefits from the labor without matching it. That's an assumption. Sure, most women do more housework, but that doesn't automatically translate to "she's cleaning his house.". Basically, you're swinging the dial way too far in one direction while acknowledging a small imbalance. But pretending the father is contributing equally is delusion. Which is irrelevant because they're still my kids, and me taking care of them is me taking care of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:51 PM
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On one hand, I don't shame sex workers. On the other hand prostitutes are often enslaved. The vast majority of them inherently do not have control, clarity, or boundaries, which is evidenced by the fact that the murder, abuse, and rape rate for prostituted women by a John or Pimp is way higher than the murder rate for a married woman by her husband. It's also interesting how people call sex workers “demeaning” but women will: clean a man’s house for free: I am cleaning my house. In which I live.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:45 PM
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Different standards mean different things. The reason people complain about the virgin one isn't just about being equal, it's because virginity is inherently "stupidity". As in, it is having a lack of knowledge in a topic. In any other situation, we would consider it creepy for someone with great experience in an activity to be terrified to participate in that thing with someone with equal experience. Think of like a professional soccer player who brags about his win streak, but only plays again…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:09 PM
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For contrast, look at the pay gap, last time I checked it was around 30% (70 compared to 100) yet I have never heard a woman say “we rarely ever get paid” it’s always just “we get paid less than men” Because those are two different things? An orgasm is something you either have or you don't have (I guess you could have a ruined orgasm, so there are at least three options). Pay is something you have equal to, have less than, have more than, or don't have. The orgasm gap is "I rarely orgasm/Sex is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:01 PM
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Under every video about her are a bloodbath of female fury. “She deserves to be raped to death,” “I hope she gets acid attacked,” “kill yourself whore” and the lovely “you deserve to be trafficked for real this time.” These are comments I pulled from random videos today with unmistakably female avatars. "Female avatar" does not mean feminist, or even female. My father exclusively uses redhead women as his avatars because he has a fetish for them. I barely see anyone talk about her in the radfem …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:55 PM

That's an observation in the Rules of Misogyny. Number 15. It's definitely not just your feeling: male philosophers and doctors throughout history pretty openly stated it, from everything from the vagina being treated like just a hole and the absence of a penis (despite being a complex organ), to it being super common for anatomy textbooks in schools to only show male skeletons, male anatomy structures, etc, to represent humans in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:45 PM

But not wanting to date men isn’t that. Not wanting kids isn’t that. Hope that helps. This. I think it's important to remember that if your human society requires half the population to be breeding stock to the other half, then establishing that and raising the birthrate will not save humanity. Your society has homo sapiens, but it's already lost its humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:25 PM

Not going to go down the whole list, but I will pick some to debate: You will rarely, if ever, see a politician or a main stream tv show try to talk about women's role in regards to falling birth rate, marriage rate and the growing divide between the sexes. What are you talking about? Women are primarily blamed for the birth rate, and the birthrate is used to argue against women having rights, from abortion and contraceptive access in the states, to higher education access in some countries in A…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:23 PM
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Did you mean to reply this to someone else? It's unrelated to my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:19 PM
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My female friends aren't prostitutes. Why would I glorify your violent behaviour? Self-defense wise (as in, the specific and super rare circumstance of getting jumped), though, it is a problem that most women don't learn self-defense skills, or at the very least how to properly crush a male attackers' testicles. Conversations require cooperation between two or more parties. Maybe it's you who can't participate. I have no problem talking to my friends. Again, why I would I glorify your hateful be…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 11:25 AM
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Lol, some people just like to fold so they can see what clothes they have. If I happen to want to wear a particular shirt, it's nice to be able to actually tell where that shirt is without digging around. Also, the physical act of folding is just fun for some people. Manipulating things with our hands is a basic instinct, and is also why many people like making things out of clay or building with Lego.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:15 PM
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The men I've dated and been around generally did to housework, but did way less housework than they thought they were. For example, the laundry needs folding and putting away, supper needs to be made, and the dogs need to be walked. Each takes 30 minutes to do, and the person doing them has 1 hour to do them. I and the women I know would walk the dogs, and then do laundry and supper at the same time. (Ex. sort clothes, chop veggies and meat for supper, put food to cook, fold laundry in the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:43 PM
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I didn't actually say anything about the root of the differences, just that many women acknowledge men's difference and many men acknowledge women's. You may have mistaken me for someone else. I don't think the root is a bad discussion to have, it just wasn't what I was discussing there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:33 PM
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To be fair, just like men know that women consider emotional and physical bonding as platonic, women also know that men consider the same emotional and physical bonding as sexual/romantic. So, it could be that she wanted to bond with him platonically, and found it generally easy to convince the friend to relax about it, but didn't want to deal with the hassle of reassuring both her male friend and her boyfriend, so just decided to step back from the male friend to save herself the headache.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:07 PM
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It was in OP's scenario. Quote from OP's post: You’re ignoring everything the Man has done for you just because your current boyfriend says he doesn’t like it. And they just don’t talk to you anymore because their boyfriend doesn’t want them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:58 PM
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The first issue is women constantly say they want to get to know the guy before they go out. Depends on how they learned about him. I've generally done things like: Gone out with former coworkers, who I had learned about during the work time, but hadn't attempted to date until after we were no longer working together. Talked to someone on a dating app a bit before going out. Been set up by friends, and talked to the person online a bit before going out. I would consider none of those "Becoming h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:53 PM
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There are 4 billion women on this planet. You're not only not asking any decent portion of the 4 billion women, but you're specifically only asking women who frequent this very biased subreddit. I will say, though, the main thing women want is to feel like they are being treated like a human. Depending on how the woman is groomed up from birth, she will perceive that as coming from different places. For example, a strictly traditional conservative woman doesn't see her husband ordering her aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:25 PM
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Passport bros often go way out of their way to describe, in great insulting detail, what they think of modern western women. And in equally insulting detail what they think of the women they're passporting at. When defending passport broing, they insist that it's just innocent, lonely men looking for love, but when actually passport broing, it's all about how desperate and submissive (read: devoid of her own personality and humanity, servile) that the women are. Not to mention the fetishes they …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:48 PM
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Dude, I have no clue why you're getting this worked up over a conversation that isn't even occurring. It isn't my fault that your ramble is off-topic to the conversation I was having with OP. Since you refuse to engage, there's not much else here, so I'll mute and bounce. See ya around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:42 PM
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Let’s just assume OP is being fully honest My debate response to OP is on the presumption that we have no clue what part his biases and perspectives play. If you want to debate with someone who is giving him that benefit of the doubt that every thing the women do is exactly as irrational as described, you are welcome to go find someone like that to debate with. I have no reason to change my debate focus because you don't like the perspective I want to bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:37 PM
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Is repeatedly going for partners who value things in ways you don't agree with an okay and adult way to handle dating? "Spazzing out" is completely subjective, and we're only getting OP's side of the story. I can't make presumptions about their specific behaviour or the specific context of each reaction, because we don't have enough information there. What we do have information on, though, is that OP is repeatedly dating women whose values he doesn't share. So that's the only thing on which I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:32 PM
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it’s moreso the spazzing out and flipping shit because your guy couldn’t cuddle you. Why date multiple women who find cuddles important if you don't find them important? Are you actually ever going to hold these women accountable for their childish behavior? If it was one woman, then sure. But again, when it's every woman, there's a common denominator, and it's not the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:49 PM
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Clearly they aren't working a similar schedule as you, though, if all of them were in bed waiting to cuddle and you weren't, or if all of them weren't exhausted from their jobs and you were. You keep repeatedly choosing to date women whose lifestyles are so different from yours that they aren't too busy with their work to want to spend time with their partner. And if you don't even have time to have a partner, why even string the women along? (And then blame them)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:38 PM
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I meant that you keep repeatedly dating women who don't have crazy schedules, and then blame them for having normal schedules. Rather than just going for women who also have crazy schedules. If every relationship you've had has had issues because of your schedule, can you really blame the women at that point? You and your schedule is the common denominator.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:21 PM
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Why are you dating so many women whose schedules and lifestyles misalign with yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:15 PM
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It's barely a damn Christmas song. It shouldn't be as overplayed as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:51 PM
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The character ones. Rudolph, Frosty, etc. I don't dislike them, but it's a bit weird that songs about random characters who aren't even related to the primary Christmas story are so famous. Hell, Rudolph is still copyrighted, hence why he's never portrayed in films about Santa. "You're a Mean One, Mr Grinch" gets a pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:50 PM
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A guy I had a crush on introduced me to one of his new girlfriends, and he actually dated a close friend of mine for a while. A woman with whom I have a mutual crush, but I turned down due to conflicting lifestyle issues, occasionally shows me her new boyfriends/girlfriends/flings, and has no issue showing PDA in front of me. I haven't been in that situation from the side of the person getting the new partner, but as someone who was "the rejected person", I didn't really care. Stewing about thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:56 PM
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Just because a kid has a single parent doesn't mean they have no other support. They often have a consistent place to live with a consistent school and consistent peers, they likely have at least one set of grandparents, aunts and uncles, etc. Kids in foster care have none of that. They can't rely on each other, can't rely on any individual parent to provide long-time or more expensive support, move around a lot so frequently lose their peerbase or job, etc. They may even lose their siblings.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:51 PM

Whats everyone's thoughts on arranged marriages? Why would I want to be stuck in a marriage that isn't my choice? This is about with whom I'm going to share my life. If my mother or the president thinks that guy would make a good partner, then they can marry that guy. I'd rather be alone than be forced to share a bed and my private life with someone, even if I happened to like that someone. It not being my choice immediately removes my ability to really like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:45 PM
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I don't see why not. I work in mental healthcare as a case manager, and male clients work better with male case managers, so I'd probably get assigned all of the dude clients. That's the main difference I think I'd see in my life. That and just generally being left alone day to day, which I'm fine with. I'm asocial. Most of the friends I run with are bisexual kinkster dudes, so my access to physical intimacy wouldn't change. Those guys would be just as likely to want me regardless of my sex. May…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:43 PM
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This is the basis of female and male socialisation: We are socialised from birth, and our liberal or conservative or identity views on gender come up later. Meaning all women experience points where they are told "you are inferior because you're a woman", in obvious or non-obvious ways. Even if her parents are liberal, she still saw adverts or heard some peers expressing it. Creeps who prey on women prey on any woman, misogynists abuse any woman. Women, regardless of her identity, are more likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:04 PM
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What you describe as a "good leader" is just a functional, independent adult, and none of the traits of the "leader" and "friend" are mutually exclusive. Except maybe "emotionally supportive" vs "holds you to promises". Does that mean if I have to cancel a date due to coming down ill, the "leader" will be obnoxious about it, while the "friend" would be understanding? Likewise, if the "Plans things out thoroughly" means planning things with me, or planning things without caring about my plans or …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:54 PM
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They can't feel pleasure anymore if they're dead, and they can't see the viewcount of the picture or know that the picture is out and being watched sexually. If there is no possible way for them to know the thing was viewed, that is a reasonable cutoff point for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:30 PM
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The part that gave them pleasure was the knowledge that you would watch and get off to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:17 PM
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How are you not participating in any way? You searched for the person's video, which they put up and tagged intentionally so that it would sexually viewed, you provided a view to it, potentially provided either direct or ad revenue to it, and then sexually stimulated yourself to it. They intentionally wanted you to view themselves sexually, even if they don't happen to personally know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:58 PM
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You watch porn. You feel pleasure but you are not involved. Not sex. If you actively masturbate to it, does that mean you're involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:49 PM

This. I'm in my mid 20s, and I just aged out of the type of woman that the worse of the worst creeps prey on. I still get creepy guys at my age, but looking back on who I was just 3 or so years ago makes me very grateful that I had kind people watching my back and warning me from those men. I don't think I was a total idiot 3 years ago, but that doesn't mean I wasn't vulnerable in that specific regard. People really need to get rid of the mindset of "Stupid/inexperienced about this specific thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:03 PM
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This is like the third time you've straw-manned my claim. The first times, I can excuse because I may have been not fully clear, but this one I straight-up very clearly expressed is false. Doesn't seem like anything else is going to come out of this conversation, since you haven't made any original points in a few comments, so I'll mute and bounce. See ya around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:43 PM

I'm just saying you're being insufferable and sticking your nose where it doesn't belong. If that's too complicated for you, then best of luck saving all us women from our own folly I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:18 PM

Holding you to your own standards does not make me a hypocrite. I do think you have the right to whine about my conversation with another person. Hence why I am here in this debate sub responding to the debate about this topic. You're allowed to comment about my interaction with someone else, and like she's allowed to decide whether she cares what I have to say, I'm allowed to decide whether I care what you have to say. I can block you if you will be uncivil or dull, and she can block me if she …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:52 PM

I would intercede if I thought someone may be in trouble, because we're a social species who are strengthened by empathy. If the woman herself asks me to stop, I will stop. If anyone who isn't the woman asks me to stop, then that would make me very suspicious about what they may be gaining from people being denied safety information. Only the woman has the right to decide if the information is or isn't useful, so only she herself has the right to decide she should be barred from hearing it. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:43 PM

I answered that in the third argument response.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:31 PM

Argument 1 "Her body, her choice", means the law shouldn't ban someone from physically removing something or someone from their body that they don't want in their body, and retaining their right to their own body. I can judge a pregnant woman for smoking or drinking while pregnant all I want. Argument 2 Anti-Abortionists hate the women too, so I don't see how this is even relevant. I mean, it's not, due to the reason above, but also they objectively do hate the women. The only person they rarely…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:06 PM
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If that's the only option you want to do, then do that. It's not really another person's place to tell you you can't aim for your goals the way you think works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:58 PM
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Yeah, my main FWB is good in bed. He's also a hoarder, momma's boy, and has a habit of talking to everyone as if he's lecturing them (he used to be a professor). I love hanging out with and sleeping with him, but there's a reason he's just FWB and not boyfriend (There are more reasons than that, but that's some of them). I've also met a guy who was good in bed, seemed nice, but surrounded himself with really bad company, and that turned me off, because I felt if he fit in with them when I wasn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:06 AM
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Lol I'm not downvoting you. But given how I'm getting upvotes, it's definitely proof of my point that not everyone agrees with your criteria. I'm sorry you assume I'm bad faith. I can't convince you that I'm not, so I don't have anything else to add here. See ya around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:07 PM
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But yes women giving oral to another woman is still sex. Okay, so it's not just penetration. And I didn't say the "Couldn't get it up" guy penetrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:03 PM
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Did you even read my comment? Lots of them either explicitly didn't involve penetration, or didn't explicitly say they involved penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 07:55 PM
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Okay, so you admit that a bunch of my examples aren't sex, since a bunch of them didn't involve penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 07:38 PM
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Some of those things are explicitly not sex (ex. He couldn't get it up). And plenty of guys don't count all or many of those things as "body count", regardless of if you personally count them all as "sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 07:25 PM
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Some of those don't directly involve sex, or don't involve things everyone would count as sex. That's why I'm confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:54 PM
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She wasn't fully honest though (she gave me a number range when we both know she knows the exact number) I've always wondered how those counts specify. Like, I don't know anywhere close to my exact number, and I'd have to parse out which specific acts you're counting and which ones you aren't. Is it PIV only? Does the PIV count if he had premature ejaculation or couldn't get it up? Does me pegging a guy count? Do you count women? Given that I can't exactly PIV a woman, what extent of things does…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:42 PM
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I mean, the patriarchy isn't just a nebulous cloud raining oppression on people. It's people. Generally men, or women who worship/submit to men's authority. Richer men use their power to hurt poorer men, and keep poorer men from standing up for the women in their lives. Masculine men target less masculine men, etc. But I do think that people often, through maliciousness or ignorance, reinforce the patriarchy from under the moral cover of feminism. Now this, I agree with, and is why I get iffy wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:03 PM
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But, obviously feminism aims to achieve equality by removing the oppression of women and not by increasing the oppression of men. The problem there is that, presuming a scenario where men are oppressors and women are oppressed, then women gaining rights would cause men to lose some privileges. For example, when women can have bank accounts in their own names, men will have less access to wives (because wives won't be as desperate). Although, feminism as a collection doesn't really have much powe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:25 PM
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Oh yeah, there are definitely crazies on both sides. I don't dismiss that any individual woman pushes for that. She just can't meaningfully argue why her opinion benefits feminism as a movement. Contrary to some people's popular belief, feminists do frequently infight and debate amongst each other as well, on their path to a better feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:54 PM
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Sexual assault is an outlier Is it? Do you have a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:24 PM
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There’s liberal/intersectional/egalitarian feminism which frames patriarchy as an extension of “gender essentialist” or “gender determinist” beliefs. Basically feminism that opposes sexism as a whole. Which definitionally isn't feminism, it's egalitarianism. If it doesn't focus on women, it's not feminism. Rights movements are allowed to focus on one specific group of people. No "Feminism is for everyone" person has actually read any feminist theory or can clearly explain why women don't deserve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:23 PM
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I want you to look up any court cases where women has been found to truly of lie even through text message or found evidence or confession after a males conviction and tell me if they went to jail. I want you to compare that rate with court cases where a person has been found to truly have lied about being the victim of a crime, and as a result, received any significant jail time. Especially jail time equal to what the perpetrator would have received, which many MRAs call for. Again, it's very i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:15 PM
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I have seen feminist and non-feminous women say they don't want women who lie about sexual assault to go to prison and they have defended that point aggressively. That is a very specific thing, though. That's not a general "women shouldn't go to prison", it's "This specific issue is way more overblown and men demand way more punishment than is warranted for this thing, purely for sexist reasons". The problems with the "Women who lie about sexual assault should be in prison" include: Sexual assau…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:04 PM

Okay, that one worked. I'm going to review it, and then go back and edit my first comment with my review.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:45 PM

You can't just post a link to your ChatGPT chat. It will only show for you, and for me it shows as a new chat. You have to actually copy and paste its' list of sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:39 PM

Yes, please do it again and share the specific source citations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:21 PM

Your Chatgpt link is broken, so I can't review the sources it found/potentially made-up. Can you share the sources? I'd like to review them. Edit: OP's fixed link: Here Citations 1,2,3,4, 6 do seem to say what Chatgpt claims they say. Citation 5 is a real study, but doesn't seem to make any claims about sexual satisfaction, despite Chatgpt claiming that it does. It discuses things like thoughts of worry, plans for the future, and amount of partners, and how those correlate with each other. Citat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:32 PM
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I didn't say anything about vaginas. You asked what sex organ is not a weak spot for someone to hit. I named one: the ovaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:31 PM
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The female version of testicles are the ovaries, dude, not the vagina. Which are protected by organs and fat, so way, way harder to hit than testicles. Therefore not a weak spot. idk, why are we not covered with titanium shells all around? what a stupid question Lol, lighten up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 10:52 PM
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The female equivalent of testicles was smart enough to stay inside the body. Which actually makes me wonder why eggs can survive human body heat but sperm can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 09:41 PM
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I was legitimately confused, so I asked an honest clarifying question in one sentence, and you responded two separate comments with 13 total sentences, including rambling something about the president, groceries, and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:32 PM
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No one has been found guilty. No one should be insisting that anyone is guilty here. I'm on this sub because it's a debate sub. I have no reason to go debate in a non-debate sub like TwoX.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:56 PM
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I'm confused: So if I make a Doordash order, put in the instructions "Leave at door", and then leave the door open, then that instruction is evidence that I didn't leave the door open?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:35 PM
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Odd that with all the evidence, she was the one arrested, no? Not really, no. People get arrested over nothing all the time. My neighbour entered my yard once with his dogs after he had been told not to, my dad confronted him and told him to leave, and when the cops came, they arrested my dad and not the neighbour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:33 PM
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There is a difference between "He was drunk.", stated officer Sam. Police are also looking at Ring footage. There is Ring footage showing that she entered the house. and "He was drunk, and we found Ring footage showing that she entered the house.", stated officer Sam. The first sources the drunk claim, but doesn't actually source the Ring footage claim. It just wants you to infer that that claim came from the police as well. The second states clearly that both claims are from the police. It's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:31 PM
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It matters to them. It didn't matter to me, hence why I didn't bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:26 PM
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It's a red herring. I don't own an answer to a red herring.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:26 PM
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What does that have to do with proving who opened the door?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:25 PM
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Or maybe that men need literal video evidence Well, yeah. She provided literal video evidence of her side.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:25 PM
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You're still shifting the burden of proof, deciding my intentions for me, and straw-manning. My presumption that you don't want to actually have an honest conversation seems correct. So, again, see ya around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:42 PM
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"A lot" isn't a percentage. "Every" and "Most", which was your claim, is. Elsewhere in the comments, though, you argued very dishonestly with me (making up my intentions for me and refusing to let me discuss a hypothetical scenario). So I presume you don't want to have this conversation either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:36 PM
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See ya around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:35 PM
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I didn't bring up gender. Why are you changing the topic to gender and making assumptions about my opinions on gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:34 PM
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Why does your "direct quote" not mention anything about the footage finding that she opened the door? Even your quote of the "direct quote" doesn't include that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:33 PM
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She hasn't been found guilty of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:32 PM
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Well she did all that and it BACKFIRED on her. Yep, regardless of if she was actually a victim or not, there wasn't really a way for her to win this. How would you feel if this was gender-flipped? Why are you bringing gender into this? I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:31 PM
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I agree. As I said to another commentor, she's obviously not a lawyer. No scenario makes her 100% in the right. The question is just if she did something stupid or something malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:29 PM
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I was answering based on the hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:28 PM
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You're just making claims, you're not actually providing the percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:28 PM
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As I pointed out, the article and videos don't actually directly quote the police about the information in the Ring camera footage. The article provides direct quotes, but not specifically about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:27 PM
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What percentage?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:24 PM
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"I see news articles directly quote the police statements of him being drunk". They literally have given direct quotes about evidence already. It's just that one specific piece of evidence they aren't directly quoting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:24 PM
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That likely occurs regardless. Why do you assume I care about the sexes being reversed?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:23 PM
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It's rather interesting that you keep quoting and responding to half the sentence out of context. Why did you ignore my point about how the article does provide direct quotes about other details?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:22 PM
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I was answering based on the hypothetical. The revenge porn conversation is an interesting one, though: In a situation where a person doesn't consent to being flashed, does the flasher's lack of consent to their flashing being shared count as revenge porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:21 PM
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Ring doorbell video which the police have stated shows her doing so, I see articles summarising that police stated that, but those same articles directly quote the police's comment about him being drunk. I have yet to see an article actually quote the police saying that the Ring doorbell footage shows her entering.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:08 PM
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Okay, but the police didn’t even start the investigation yet because she sent it to TikTok literally hours after it happened She's obviously not a lawyer, but my point is that- in the scenario where she is actually a victim- she was likely just trying to cover that base beforehand, so she doesn't have to worry about the risk later.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:04 PM
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Do you think this woman going viral for lying about SA and using it for clout is also making it harder for victims to be believed? A liar does hurt victims, yeah. But the fact that she is getting way more attention as a potential liar, than she ever would have gotten as a potential victim, definitely hurts victims way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:01 PM
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Thank you. I've asked so many people, and no one ever provides it, so I appreciate your willingness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:57 PM
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SHE ENTERED HIS HOME!!! How do you know? I see news articles directly quote the police statements of him being drunk, but when they reference her opening the door or entering, it's never direct quotes from police, just summaries. Right now, it seems like she's only getting arrested for filming, not for entering or whatnot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:56 PM
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Because it's super common for police to throw these cases out, and they can even seize and destroy evidence. Presuming best case scenario, she likely posted it online to ensure it wouldn't disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:55 PM
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Well, the evidence in this case shows that she pushed the door open Where is that evidence? I see news articles directly quote the police statements of him being drunk, but when they reference her opening the door, it's never direct quotes from police, just summaries. Right now, it seems like she's only getting arrested for filming, not for entering or whatnot. Even if she is a liar, this one case is now going to be used to even further push the idea that all or most cases are liars. Men are so …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:53 PM
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The police are claiming he is blameless because he was drunk passed-out, as well. I find it interesting that he was apparently too drunk to know not to "sleep" pantsless in front of his open door while he has a DoorDasher coming, but he wasn't too drunk to be unable to order DoorDash. I definitely wouldn't be able to if I was drunk to the point of imminent pass-out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:41 PM
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Asia Argento raped a 17 year old, yet she still has a career. A lot of guys rape teenagers and still have careers as well. That's less of a gendered issue and more of an issue about no one really doing anything about child/teen predation. People whine and complain about it, but rarely does anyone actually face any real consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:38 PM

(Edit: Answering in the general scenario, not for this specific event) Evidence. When women don't get evidence, they are written off as liars. When they get evidence but don't share it publicly and only share it with the police, they are written off as liars and the police take and disregard it. When they get evidence and share it publicly, they are written off as just wanting to shame the guy for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:37 PM
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Turns out he had a ring camera that allegedly caught her walking up (with "leave at door" instructions, mind you), and seeing the door was slightly ajar, pushed it all the way open, Does it turn out? Every news source I see directly quotes the police saying "There was no sexual assault" and "He was drunk", but when the article references the Ring cam, they never directly quote the police saying "The Ring cam showed her entering the building". It seems to me like the police are just arresting her…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:34 PM
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Why would I answer that question, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:29 AM
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Watching gore also is not the equivalent of committing real murder. No, but it is the equivalent of watching real murder, which you acknowledged by the fact that you kept comparing watching fake death to watching real penetration, while refusing to admit that one was completely fake while the other involved real penetration. Enjoying porn is normal. This didn't start with normality. This started with whether it's reasonable for a woman to feel cheated on when she knows her husband regularly watc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:25 AM
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Why are you curious?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:20 AM
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You already admitted that you agree with the normal women, and that I am not included in those normal women (and I didn't claim to be). My problem with live-action porn is the fact that it's impossible to tell which porn actress is trafficked and which is not. I prefer men who don't risk watching trafficked women, and who stick to drawn porn, if they must use porn at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:17 AM
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Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:08 AM
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Watching a video of someone fucking is equivalent to watching someone dying in Lord of the Rings. The person fucking is literally being fucked. The person "dying" is not actually dying. If you really wanted to compare them, why not compare the person being actually fucked to a person actually being killed on one of those gore sites? Why compare real penis-in-vagina penetration to fake death? For makeup and artificial semen, Google it yourself, Why would they fake it, when it's perfectly cheaper …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:07 AM
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You have to keep in mind virtues as well. If a person believes that they are a failure of a person if they don't report being happy about their arranged/young marriage, or if they legitimately don't know what an alternate life would honestly be, then of course they will report being happy in their current life. Likewise, they might think divorce is worse than it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:02 AM
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stuff like bruises might be makeup, and money shots might be made of an artificial liquid. Source that most porn uses fake penetration in fake holes, fake liquid, fake bruises, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:57 AM
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Cool, so instead of comparing it to deaths in Call of Duty, then compare it to the deaths in movies like Lord of the Rings. The difference is that those are still people only pretending to die. Women in porn are literally penetrated in their actual vaginas. They are literally strangled and bruised. Are you claiming that the vast majority of porn is done with fake vaginas, make-up bruises, fake throats being grabbed, etc, like in Lord of the Rings?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:48 AM
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For about the same reason playing Call of Duty is not the same as committing acts of murder. The people “aren’t real” This is why I specified "live action porn". Those women are literally real people who are literally being penetrated, strangled, etc. The characters in Call of Duty are just 3D models.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:39 AM
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Do you actually get turned on by this furry imagery? Do you think artists only post what turns them on? I've drawn porn for years, and rarely do I draw things that explicitly turn me on. We post what is likely to get us commissioners. Rezen, the Tiger Shark OC, has fans. Some of those fans have paid me to draw art for them. If they like big shark dommy mommies, I have no reason to disrespect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:37 AM
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I did say "Some women consider that on par with cheating, and I don't see a flaw in their argument." As in, I'm not the one making the argument. I'm just respecting other people's perspectives. I make cartoon furry porn, sure. Don't you think that'd mean I have a bias pro-porn? Of course, you're the one who claimed that "normal" women don't see live-action porn including real women as cheating, so you're still the one who has to source that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:25 AM
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There are no normal women that consider porn to be cheating in the USA Well, that seems heavily biased by your definition of "normal".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:05 AM
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I'd imagine because there is a difference between assaulting someone sexually, and assaulting someone in a weakspot that coincidentally happens to be a sex organ.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:58 AM
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Depends on what you mean by "loyal". If you mean any inclusion of another live human being in their sex life, then no. The majority of men watch live-action porn. If you mean that the person included in their sex life knows them personally, then yes. Most people are loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:55 AM
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Yeah, I have. Never been with a guy who has like a 3000$ doll, but I run in kinkster circles, where people are way less ashamed about buying what they need. Most guys I've been with have at least one hitachi vibrator (yes, they work for men as well), at least one had an anime girl pocket pussy I knew about, at least two had fleshlight-type devices, and many had dildos (straight guys have prostates too). Any other toy, I didn't know about, but then I don't go snooping. What you do in your room is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:45 AM
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It's not. Everyone has immediate biases and instincts- although, there are many people who think they are intelligent because they are able to quickly word-salad argue why their immediate biases are logical. That's where a lot of bigotry comes from. Bigots are convinced that their biases are right, and they're often very good at quickly making up justifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:54 PM
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Otherwise we’re not examining instinct Instinct isn't based on accuracy. “Id rather free climb down the side of a 9 story building than take an elevator with a jew”. In your examples, presuming a non-jew would be more likely to say "free-climb", would a jew also be more likely to say "free-climb"? Would a black person also be more likely to say "Black people contaminant drinking fountains"? The problem with your examples is that you're intentionally picking categories of oppressed class. In the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:14 PM
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that instinct deserves to be examined rather than treated as a given. Examining the instinct does not mean actually going into the threat level of bears, though, or any of the three points in your OP. The point of bears is just "compare our (male and female) feelings about human man's risk to women to our feelings about something that we know is dangerous." The specific thing is irrelevant, and doesn't even have to be an animal. So yes, the meme is about instinct. I’m asking why that instinct ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:58 PM
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The actual "Debate" was never meant to be a debate. It was meant to be a thinking point. If women are asked, they are likely to immediately choose bear. If men are asked (about their daughter coming across a man/bear), they are likely to immediately choose bear. The point was never "debate why one is a better option". The point was "Let's think about why all of us, men and women, automatically perceive men as threats to women."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:42 PM
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Do we really need to reopen the topic, while completely ignoring the point of the topic? The debate was never "Provide a clear and precise argument for each side". The argument was "Without thinking, if you were alone in the woods, what is the first thing you'd presume was safer" and (if you're a man) "Without thinking, if your daughter was alone in the woods, which would you prefer she be alone with?" and since the answer from most people, women for themselves or men for their daughters, is "Be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:39 PM
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I agree that she wants him because he is more desirable. She desires a man with physical attraction, casual sex (and therefore the ability to handle performing casual sex), and trustworthiness, and as I expressed, he has or she perceives him to have those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 11:17 PM
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you think it’s valid for society to expect men to pretend as though the men women have casual sex with merely behaved the right way to assuage their fear of pregnancy and physical harm. I explicitly didn't say that. I said "It is natural to perceive attractiveness as more trustworthy, regardless of sex. (Hence why megachurch pastors, cult leaders, etc, tend to do better when they have visible traits their congregations consider attractive)." I acknowledged that overall physical attractiveness pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 11:04 PM
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Okay, so then you agreed with my overall point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:49 PM
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I meant she isn't afraid of [pregnancy and physical harm] magically falling out of the sky. She's afraid of those things being afflicted on her against her will.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:46 PM
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This response seems unrelated to mine. Especially since it starts with generally agreeing with my overall point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:35 PM
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"Artificial wombs" still require a female body. Test tube babies only start out in the test tube, and then are put into person's body to gestate, because of all of the very specific things the female body keeps track of and manages during gestation. We are nowhere close to actually making an artificial womb where the fetus spends the entire time from start to finish without being inside or connected at all to a living being.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:21 PM
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My point was that you and all other parent commenters ought to address that in your parent comment, It's a debate sub. Having conversations is what the sub is about. If a woman cites fear of pregnancy and fear of physical harm She isn't afraid of pregnancy and physical harm, she's afraid of a man impregnating her and a man harming her. So, she vets for men she thinks won't do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 09:11 PM
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how there are many women who disregard their stated reasons against casual sex (risk to safety, risk of pregnancy, etc.) for men who are particularly desirable. And I answered that in my last comment: They're not disregarding their stated reasons (safety). That man fits their stated reasons (they consider him safe). Pregnancy and other harms don't just have a random chance of appearing. Men can cause those issues, and different traits men have causes him to be more likely to cause them (ex. not …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:31 PM
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I'm still having a little trouble understanding what your argument here is, then. I don't know if you're not being clear/specific enough, or you're using some words incorrectly (I don't mean this as an insult).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:22 PM
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your parent comment and all of the others ought to first acknowledge that not all women have some altruistic/safety-first objection to casual sex All but the very stupid women generally acknowledge the fact that sex is risky and that men are generally bigger and stronger than them. They don't just ignore it for the man they want to have sex with, they consider that man safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:17 PM
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these same women still have casual sex, just with men who they deem to be worth the risk of pregnancy and physical harm. Or if her standards for casual sex were related to the risk factor. According to OP they have higher standards for casual sex than for relationships, so if those standards include risk or perceived risk, then it would make sense. It is natural to perceive attractiveness as more trustworthy, regardless of sex. (Hence why megachurch pastors, cult leaders, etc, tend to do better …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:11 PM
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Basically, a man studied a group of wolves in a very specific environment and with a lot of his own specific personal biases. He then wrote a book stating that that specific thing was the basis of all wolf pack dynamics. That is what this post feels like. Although in his case, he realised he was wrong and spent the rest of his life trying to tell people not to take that book as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:32 PM
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It gets asked all too often on first dates: “So what are you looking for?” I have never had an issue asking this question before the first date. Most dating apps I've used have an option to select if you're looking for hookups, casual, serious, casual and open to serious, or serious and open to casual. For the Cold Approach type situations, usually guys will casually mention in the first five minutes something like "I broke up a few months ago, so I'm getting back into the dating market" or "I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:45 PM
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Okay, so the main basis of your argument is that you believe that feminism is the right for women to choose their lives (and we discussed the non-vacuum of choice) and you define MAGA as having absolutely nothing to do with women or women's rights. Which answers my initial question: You believe MAGA can be feminists, because you believe that MAGA is unrelated to women. What MAGA is and isn't is outside of the scope of PPD, so there's not really more we can go with there. I did get the answer I r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:46 PM
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You said a bunch of things it's not, and then said it's "nationalist, economic, and xenophobic backlash to economic pressures". Which isn't a clear descriptor of what it is. Do you define MAGA as having any opinions on women or women's rights at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:30 PM
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Project 2025's authors are not "MAGA" Okay, so that's where the issue rests, which was my initial question. I had needed you to define feminism and MAGA. You defined feminism, and we discussed that definition, but you haven't defined MAGA.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:24 PM
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The part where Marjorie Taylor Greene is a congresswoman and Pam Bondi is the top law enforcement agent in the country? The fact that they use female spokespersons doesn't mean they don't want women to submit to men and not have jobs. Those women do not represent the majority of MAGA women. This predated MAGA. As you said, MAGA wants "traditionalism". Everything MAGA wants predates them. Their whole goal is banking off of false nostalgia. Please source this x2 They're both in Project 2025. What …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:09 PM
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Of note, feminism is quite torn on that debate as well, hence why trans rights activists have designated "terf" as a label for feminists who don't agree with them. Radical feminists (terfs) are the majority of feminists around the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:17 PM
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So do you believe choosing to live a traditional lifestyle is self harm? Depends on what you mean by "choosing to live a traditional lifestyle". For one thing, the lifestyle that MAGA promotes is not "traditional", as it only barely existed for like two decades in the mid 1900s. Otherwise, a woman not having an income in her own name is not in her best interest, unless she is taking steps to mitigate the husband's ability to financially trap her (ex. She receives a percentage of his income that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:49 PM
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Not entirely, feminism is the movement to fight oppression of women based on their female sex. It does promote women making their own choices, but also acknowledges that choices are not made in a vacuum (for example, we intervene when an anorexic woman chooses to starve herself.) Feminism challenges the ideas that force or pressure women to "choose" self-harm options that they would not otherwise wish to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:24 PM
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I'm honestly curious: how can you be MAGA and feminist? I suppose you'd need to define both, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:08 PM
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I edited it when I realised I was talking to OP. I got a lot of comments and wasn't checking usernames.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:45 PM
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Some levels of lying in a job interview count as fraud, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:44 PM
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It's not horrific when you realize they're only doing it to women who are lying by omission to them to begin with. Your OP claim is that she's not lying, though. That she just has different standards, and he's lying to reach those standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:42 PM
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Can you at least concede that many women will in fact overcome their inhibitions, if all else being equal, the man is more desirable? I can't concede to that because I don't entirely understand what you mean by that. Can you try rewording it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:41 PM
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I'm not sure that "The justified reason that I lie to you is to manipulate you into having sex with me" is the defense you'd want to use. I generally think that most men don't want to be represented so horrifically. Finally, if a woman would only have sex with a man if he gives her companionship in return, then that means she's not really attracted to him anyway. Or maybe women risk pregnancy and physical danger when they have sex, and it's much harder for women to get off if she's with a rando …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:10 AM

So, you admit you're just trolling? Kinda sad, you showed that you can actually make debate points (even if I personally didn't see much to debate with it), but you're choosing not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:04 AM

See, this is why everyone is so confused and are making fun of you. I appreciate that paragraph there, because it makes more sense as an argument than literally anything in your OP. It's also way less emotionally charged/rage-baity. Once your OP gets deleted again, I suggest you just debate using paragraphs like that, that are super specific. Okay, going back to actually debating: My claim is that many of women’s instincts and socializing works well in within a harem This isn't really much of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:59 AM

Concubinage is a noun, concubining, while technically an invented word, would be the verb form of concubine. That sentence could be correct with either verb or noun.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:46 AM

The post is a debate post. I'm trying to see if you can actually back and discuss any of your claims. Your post just makes wild assertions, doesn't actually defend any of them. Your title refers to concubines, but your OP doesn't ever define what you even mean by concubine. Hence my challenge. Whatever you mean by that word is clearly not what the word actually means. So, make a claim, and defend that claim, so I can respond to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:40 AM

I'm actually impressed that he managed to make AI slop look coherent by comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:33 AM

Once again: Women existed before concubining existed, and women have existed in every culture, where concubines have not. You'll have to be more specific. Name one "Woman's instinct" and how you think that specific instinct came from "being part of concubines".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:32 AM

Generally no emotions or thoughts go through my mind when having an orgasm. That's kinda the point of orgasms. Head empty, only Happy. And is there anything a man can do in that moment to make the experience better, more comfortable, or more meaningful? Asking in this sub won't provide you any useful information. It depends on the specific woman with whom you're sleeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:31 AM
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Kinda. He has a PHD and a wide range of education, but he has a hard time seeing things that are right in front of his face. Like, one time I had to explain to him that the reason his toddler was staring blankly off into space was because she was bored (he thought she was just overwhelmed by the event we were at), or the reason she doesn't pay attention when he reads to her is because his reading style is very, very boring. I do have a hard time having equal conversations with him sometimes, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:03 AM
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Yeah, this feels like a dating version of that one "alpha wolf" study.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:56 AM
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Of course it doesn't exist. There's no way the amount of monogamously coupled people would be as high as it is if that rate were true. When I say I find most men not attractive, I don't mean I find most men ugly. I mean I don't look at men very often, because men take eye contact as a sign that I must want their attention, and then they harass me. I'd imagine most women who say that are similar: Not attractive =/= unattractive. It just means they are not in an attracted mood right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:52 AM

Grab his junk and scream in excitement that I've found the Dragon Balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:40 PM

Wow, that is the worst attempt at negging I've ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:39 PM
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So as long as I keep an open hand I never said anything about open hands alone being the point of focus. The point that makes women see it as less of a threat is that humans are a sexually dimorphic species. Male humans are specifically evolved to hit harder than female humans are capable of hitting. I don't agree with those women, and their mentality didn't pop up out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 01:42 PM
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To me, spanking children shows them that I can’t express myself appropriately with words and have to use violence and the size/strength advantage I only have due to age to convey my point. I agree. I wasn't defending the action, I was pointing out why women have a hard time seeing the problem in it. It's for the same reason the vast majority of parents are convinced that spanking is perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:56 AM
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Most of my jobs have been women-dominated (Fast Food, Hospitality/Hotel, Group Home worker, and now Case Manager). From women, I have never heard: "I hate all men" Anything to do with wanting men's wallets or finances. Anything about "good men" being absent. Anything about preferring rich men. Anything to do with upgrading a man. Any locker room talk beyond just calling the guy cute or hot. I have like one friend who has chatted about dick size to me, but never complaining about small dicks. She…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:50 AM
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When did I say anything was okay? Although, the use of names makes it pretty clear you're trolling. Civility is a rule on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:08 AM
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You think it's cool for men to assault each other and adults to assault children? I didn't say any of my examples were cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:37 AM
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That really depends on the friend group. My brother is a marine, and his marine friends would definitely say something way worse and demeaning than that to him, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 12:55 AM
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Verbal abuse is an interesting one: We see men josh each other verbally all of the time, but women just rarely do that to each other, so women don't know how to do it. My brothers jokingly say things to each other and their friends that, if I said to my female friends, would ruin our relationship. I presume a lot of those women legitimately don't understand the harm they are causing men, because learning the difference between a light-hearted insult and a cruel one is just not really something w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 12:49 AM
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Do some women not register their own actions as abuse when the target is a man? I think in general women register a slap from a woman to a man in the same way a man registers a shoulder check from a man to another man, or a parent registering a spank on their kid's ass. They all register as more "Making a point" than "Assault". They are all assaulting, but its ability/intention/likeliness to do serious damage is just so low, that it's hard to process it as assault. The harm that a woman can do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 12:43 AM
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I can't remember the last time I've actually heard a woman IRL say something misandristic or toxic. I hear it from men often (ex. I used to work at a group home for elderly people, and those old men were sometimes misogynistic as hell, but the old women were rarely misandristic, I hang around gay men and lesbians, and the gay men are misogynistic, but the lesbians are rarely misandristic, etc). If I did hear a woman say it, I'm sure I wouldn't agree, but I just don't hear it. I'd also like to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 10:31 PM
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True, but so was his point there. It was a side step to an overall conversation, which he and I fleshed out going down the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:43 PM
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The confusion is that the "Equal Rights For Women" stuff is a simplified, laymen's understanding. That's why I point out elsewhere that people who only use that one don't get anything done. It's not a real rights movement, it's just a catchy phrase that vanishes the moment you think about it (hence my example: No one is calling for the right of prostate exams for women). The Rights Movement part, which is what feminism is, is the part that actually focuses on oppression of the female sex. You ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:13 PM
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When the criteria for inclusion are inconsistent and ever changing on a whim It's not. Feminism has "Fem" in the name. Egalitarian has "Egal". Humanism has "Human". No one does this with other groups. I work as a case manager for people with Autism, and no one has ever expected me to center people who don't have autism in my work. No one demands a dog shelter make shelter for humans as well. Yet, feminists are expected to center everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:10 PM
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I shouldn't have to explain the no true scotsman fallacy to you but suffice it to say There is a reason the fallacy is called "No True Scotsman". It comes from this: Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge." Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge." Person A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge." No True Scotsman means "Removing someone's claim to an identity based on a trait that has nothing to do with that identity." If you're challe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:03 PM
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Ohh, see my bad, I didn't realize fhe majority of feminists were not TRUE Scotsmen If a man was born in Ireland, lived his entire life in Ireland, visited Scotland for a few weeks, and then declared himself the arbiter of Scottish culture, he is objectively not a Scotsman. No True Scotsman is about when the thing has nothing to do with being a Scotsman ("No True Scotsman drinks Irish whiskey!") It doesn't apply when the person is literally not a Scotsman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:43 PM
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Basically, egalitarians invaded feminism and lied to everyone about what feminism is. That's what that big "Liberal Feminism" movement in the west is. There's a reason that the "Feminism is for everyone" people never get anything done: it's because they never read any feminist literature, never center women, never focus on specific issues, etc. The Left knew that "Everyone should be equal" was a problem when it came to tackling the "All Lives Matter" thing. They all knew perfectly how to argue, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:23 PM
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You've got me mixed up with the wrong person. I said: "It's not an equality movement. It's a movement about freedom from oppression based on the female sex. We're a sexually dimorphic species, so we have different needs based on our sex. No feminist is demanding that proctologists offer prostate exams to women." Egalitarians have invaded feminism and spread the false message that it's about equality. None of them have ever read feminist theory, and their "the goal is equality" thing is useless a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:20 PM
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I did not provide a discussion about modern warfare. You've confused me with the other commentors. My focus is addressing your claim about feminism being an equality movement. Hence why that is the line I quoted in my response.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:00 PM
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So are bullets shot by women less effective that one shot by men? Yeah? Recoil is a thing, which would affect women more than men, since women have less upper-body strength. Why are there female police officers if they are sexually dimorphic and less effective? Because being a police officer isn't just running around punching bad guys. The vast majority of policing work is administrative, wellness checks, conflict de-esculation, or involves driving. (Women are better drivers, hence why insurance…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:29 PM
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But if women's equality movement avoids areas where they have an advantage, it is a failure of the equality movement. It's not an equality movement. It's a movement about freedom from oppression based on the female sex. We're a sexually dimorphic species, so we have different needs based on our sex. No feminist is demanding that proctologists offer prostate exams to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:15 PM

A few reasons: It's making stupidity attractive. It's on par with saying "I prefer a woman who didn't graduate high school". When you prefer someone who doesn't have knowledge explicitly based on them not having knowledge, it leads to a bit of suspicion on the power dynamic you may be trying to set up. Hence why women are a lot less offended when the man has a low body count himself. If his is high and he wants low, then he's saying "I am highly educated and I want a woman with no education." Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:07 PM
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Civility is a rule on this sub. Judging by your comment history (and this and the previous comment), and your starting point of knowing me (I have no clue who you are), you're not here to actually debate. I doubt you would be okay with someone talking to you like you've talked to me. I'm interested in a civilised conversation, and most of your point is responding to other people anyway (like the Ring footage: that was initially OPs claim). So you're not even addressing me. I'm not interested in …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 02:29 AM
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You really should take this up with the people insisting there is Ring camera footage of her entering the building, and that the entire issue is based around that. That'd be an interesting conversation. By your admission, the only thing she is being charged with is trying to provide proof of what she presumed was sexual assault (him being apparently not drunk enough that he could order DoorDash, but simultaneously too drunk to know not to leave the door open and present his naked body to the Das…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 02:11 AM
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I don't think your question is as grasping as you think it is. Hence why you never answered my clarifying question: What's interesting about them worth fantasizing? We've established that taboo alone doesn't do it, so now you have to explain why you think those things are interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 01:46 AM
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You quoted the second half of the sentence. It's in the first half of the sentence. Taboo adds to the appeal. Taboo in and of itself is not the only axis of appeal. It adds to it. Hence my example: A crack warehouse is a taboo warehouse. If I find warehouses boring, then a taboo warehouse won't suddenly become interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 01:29 AM
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And what was my next response? Especially the last sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 01:17 AM
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And what did I say in response to you providing those examples the first time?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 01:08 AM
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What's the point of asking me a question if you're going to repeatedly ignore my answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 01:00 AM
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I also don't fantasize about working in a crack warehouse, because even though it's illegal, it's still just working in a warehouse at the end of the day. Which is boring. Tabooness adds to the appeal, but some things are still boring despite being taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 12:53 AM
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What's interesting about them worth fantasizing? I don't fantasize about working at a warehouse, even though I've never done it. It's just not an interesting fantasy. The second isn't uncommon, though. Femdom/Mommydom is a pretty standard fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 12:46 AM
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Can you provide an example that isn't answered by my last comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 12:17 AM
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Because fantasising about things you do or can experience every day is boring. We're a social sex species, so of course we think about sex things more than non-sex things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 12:02 AM

Scenario One: "Problem with food" is unclear about what the problem is, but makes it very clear there is a problem. The range is too loose. "Spanks" doesn't make it clear that there is a problem. (Spanking is a problem, to be clear, but given how divided laymen are, I could see it being easy for an AI bot to side with "spanking is not a problem" in this situation. So: Man with confirmed problem, vs woman with no confirmed problem. Scenario Two: No information is given about the father. The only …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 10:17 PM
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AI didn’t create this. It inherited it. Yeah, you can get AI to say whatever you want it to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 10:10 PM
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I obviously can’t post it but there is an uncensored version floating around. I meant source for how you know it's uncensored. I don't want to look at his nude, if it does exist, but I do want to know it exists. if it’s true that DD banned her only after she posted the video, would it change your perspective of the situation? My current perspective is: She did a dumb thing (post the video), he did a dumb thing (get too drunk to know not to sleep naked when you have a DoorDash coming, but not dru…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 09:53 PM
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The original video was not blurred Source? Not of the video itself of course, but I've only ever seen the censored one on TikTok, since you can't post porn on TikTok. She posted the video online then got banned by DoorDash for sharing personal information and content of their customers online — you can find their statement online going into detail They being DoorDash? They have just as much reason to insist that order as she does to insist the other order. Semantics in this case, but sure It's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 09:35 PM
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you still cant whip out your phone and record them nude with their full name, address and post it online. She did censor his nudity even in her video. From what I understand, she initially just shared the video with DoorDash to report him, then she got banned from DoorDash, then she shared the censored video publicly to shame DoorDash. That leads to another issue, though: If she doesn't share evidence, she's immediately brushed off as a liar. If she does share evidence, she's immediately brushed…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 09:10 PM
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The fact that you have that "preference" and are still advocating for men to stop having any sexual desires I answered this already: "I'm poly, though, so for me, the concept of my man being attracted to another actual real woman doesn't bother me. I'm speaking for the monogamous women." And that "preference" I have, is "I prefer my husband not watch hours of an actual woman actually get raped and abused". My personal preference has nothing to do with his sexual desires and everything to do with…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 09:05 PM
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That's fair. But it still backs up my original point: when she first posted, people were jumping to attack her, with debates on both sides. Now, with only one very unclear police statement to go off of, people are immediately jumping on her, women in general, and the entire Me Too movement. It really goes to show that men as a collective gain way more for calling a woman a liar than any individual woman gains from saying anything, truth or lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:51 PM
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The police obtained ring camera footage that hasn’t been released online yet How do we know this is true? I see articles claiming it, but what is the source those articles used? AI is also nowhere near advance enough to pass off as credible evidence lol I'll go back and dig up the clips in the thread I was discussing it in previously. It would have been super easy to fake, as it was super grainy and like 5 seconds long. Edit: I can't find the Ring footage. Which is even more suspicious, that eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:15 PM
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And if women see their man getting off to a [an actual human being who is presenting herself for the man to get off to]. FTFY. Again, she's upset because her husband is getting sexual gratification from another woman. He has excuses (he's not actually talking to this woman, etc), but still, the issue wives have is the fact that her husband wants sexual gratification from another human woman who exists. [2nd paragraph] I am aware. I'm not generally one of the women who complains, although I prefe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:01 PM
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Turns out she lied about it, and actually opened the man’s door to record him in order to gain sympathy This is highly debatable. The Ring doorbell footage looks fake as hell (shows a different house exterior than what hers shows, only shows her going in and cuts off, doesn't show its angle of her filming her video, her video shows an open space where the Ring camera would be at, etc). In another thread on another sub I was on, every one who pointed those out were viciously attacked more than I …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 07:54 PM
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There is a difference when it's a real person on the other end of that screen. The reason the man never asks if he's devil-enough is because he and she both know that him being a devil is impossible. I never question if my GTA loving boyfriend actually wants to run people over in his car, because he's only running over fake characters, not watching hours and hours and hours of real people being violently run over.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 07:36 PM
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Because fantasizing about against the status quo provides a different perspective from that of your day to day life. That's also why crime-committing games like Grand Theft Auto and Payday are so popular, and why kids are obsessed with stories like Warrior Cats and Wings of Fire and whatnot. I have to be a human every day. I have to follow laws every day. The only sex I can experience that isn't dangerous or traumatic is consensual sex. When we fantasize, we want the fantasy world to include som…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:48 PM
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Birth rates are going to get better. Their current decrease is a part of that: Birth rates shouldn't be as high as they are. We don't need this many people. The birth rate today being lower than it was 50 years ago is a good thing (the "better" thing), because the birth rate 50 years ago was a bad thing. People act like birth rates being low means we're going to go extinct. It's not, it just means our overall population will reduce a bit to more reasonable numbers, and then will stabilise again.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:58 PM
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The problem is that they aren't bluffing. All it takes is for people to stop telling them they can't openly abuse women, and they will do it. That's one of the reasons Islam spreads so well: those men are given permission to feel entitled to women, and they take it without hesitation. Women got access to their own bank accounts like 50 years ago. My mother lived in a time where she could have been barred from having one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:14 PM
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Well, abusers find partners who like them, so possibly. Those men want women to lower the bar on what constitutes a good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:09 PM
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The usual cliche is that men don't want monogamy. They want open or "open" relationships, as in "I want to have at least one woman that I claim as mine, but I also want access to other women when I'm in the mood for that". For some men, that's cheating or prostitutes, and for the vast majority of men, it's pornography. One of my FWBs has a wife and kids (he's not cheating, it's a consensual open relationship. I'm friends with her, and she has a boyfriend on the side as well), and he told me that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:42 PM

I think it causes problems, yeah. Beyond the ones you stated, I see issues with: Change: We change as we grow. Sometimes, we change in ways that make us more compatible, and sometimes not. How many of the friends you had 10 years ago do you still have today? Someone could be "The One" for one period of your life, but not the following period. Nature: Lifelong monogamy is basically nonexistent in mammals that live longer than 20 years. I'm not really sure why we're obsessed with the idea of being…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:38 PM
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We're a social sex species. If you don't explicitly outlaw social sex, then people will have social sex. And if you do explicitly outlaw it, people will still do it. It's just in our nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:24 PM
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I prefer bi men to straight men. A man who's been harassed by men knows what it's like to be harassed by men and is less likely to do it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:06 PM
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Gotten into coding. My little brother was into Scratch. I should have gotten into that when I was his age, and moved up from there like he did. I don't want a career in coding, but being able to understand the basics goes a long way, and I have no attention span for trying to learn it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:53 PM

Maybe she's into that, idk. Or they just do it with the lights off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 06:55 PM
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What kind of harm can an eating disorder cause to those around them? Some examples Stealing food from other people. The disordered person destroying other people's food so the disordered person doesn't feel tempted to eat it. Expressing paranoia about food or weight around their children, which will cause the children to develop the same paranoia (ex. discussing how disgusting and fat they feel, even when they are a healthy weight, in front of their kids, causing the kids to develop an internal …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:50 PM
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Dude, I don't care about your personal lifestyle. I'm not trying to date you. If the diet in question is directly caused by or directly causes serious stress to the dieting person and people around them, then it would be an eating disorder. I don't generally date people who have serious disorders like that that may harm me. That's it. Whether your personal diet falls into that category is your business, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:35 PM
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A disorder refers to a consistent neurological, emotional, or behavioural state that directly negatively affects the person and the people around them, so if your very controlled diet is directly caused by or directly causes serious stress to you and people around you, then it would be an eating disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 04:42 PM
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That's a conversation you can take up with the psychology community.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 11:46 AM
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For example bodybuilders on off season or GYM guys who take steroids or are natural but has been weightlifting for several years Drug abusers is a no. Those guys tend to have pretty severe eating disorders, which is a no. Gym addiction is the most common type of male eating disorder iirc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 12:33 AM
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Knowledge of some of the fandoms I'm in. Artistic skills. (Appreciates are is a bare minimum, can make it himself is beyond that minimum). Good with kids (I'm not hard pressed about having kids, but I'm definitely more likely to have them with a guy who is good with kids).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 10:48 AM
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Dating is the act of sharing your life with another person. If he's only attracted to younger women, then he would only have sex with them. He wouldn't progress to dating, because he's not thinking about sharing his life. He's thinking about attraction. If he is only interested in sharing his life with younger women, while he is well established, then it's clear that "sharing" means she is moulded to fit around him and his interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:13 PM
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There are different ways to "ask for help". For doing a task, he feels unmanly if he looks like he can't do the task. I agree that men will not say "Can you help me?" For a mental health issue, he's not asking for help explicitly, but he is expecting it, and will make a big stink if it isn't handed to him. He won't say "Can you help me?" But he will act more and more obnoxious until you just step in and help him. For the men I've worked with, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:11 PM
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Then he would only be having sex with young women. Dating is when it's beyond just attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:41 PM
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My point is that this really has nothing to do with whether a couple treats each other with mutual respect. You can be 20 years older than your partner and choose to treat them respectfully from date #1. It doesn't actually require growing together. Hence my paragraph's difference between Man 2 and Man 3. Man 2 happened into it, Man 3 only wants a woman 30 years younger than him. His primary goal is a woman who is not his equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:10 PM
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Or we're only talking about the men who do it exclusively. If most men don't apply to the conversation, that's fine. The conversation isn't about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:54 PM
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Wanting something and getting it is failure? No, your quote was "wanting something and not trying to get it." I mean, while we're stereotyping age-gap relationships, let's not forget that same-age relationships between young people also have a well-earned reputation for being messy. So? I said nothing about relationships being immature in general. My point was a mature, developed person who intentionally wants someone who is immature and not developed, so rather than develop more with her, he ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:42 PM
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Are you just trolling? You are repeatedly asking questions I already answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:26 PM
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The reason I think 50 year old men who exclusively go after 20 year old women see those women as accessories is because: "They talk to me and other women like me as if we're idiots. 20 year old women aren't children, but these 50 year old men want us to be. They don't want us to be independent adults. They want us to rely on them and hang on their every interest." I think if Person A wants their partner to be uninitiated in the adult world, unable to compare them to better partners, and unable t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:16 PM
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I answered that here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:06 PM
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Did you mean this question to OP? I'm confused. I stated that I don't find the ability relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:54 PM
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If he's Man #3, then his ability is irrelevant, so I don't think about his ability. Ability is only relevant to Man #2. He is Man #3 (Regardless of his ability, he only wants younger women).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:39 PM
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He would be Man #3.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:29 PM
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particularly when it comes to very long-term couples, who may have gradually adopted "mature" standards for their behavior regardless of whether or not this reflects any sense of inner happiness. That's the point. A long-term same-age couple has the ability to grow that bond. They might fail to, but they have the ability. A couple where one party is already established middle-aged, and the other party has barely been an independent adult for very long, has way, way less of that ability. Cowardly…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:28 PM
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That's the difference between Man #2 and Man #3 in my scenario. I've met ones who happened not to be dating a woman his age, but had nothing against dating them if the option was available. They would be Man #2. And I've met the ones who were exclusively into my age, and wouldn't take a woman his age even if it was an option. They acted like Man #3.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:16 PM

Civility is a rule in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:29 PM

You cherry-picked the conclusion statement for your strawman, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:30 PM
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If I'm experiencing acute emotional distress that I can't handle on my own, the last thing on my mind is whether I'm expressing emotions in a way that she finds palatable. I'm sure it depends on the person, but this is honestly one of the first things on my mind when I am experiencing acute emotional distress. I'm terrified of being a burden, so the idea that other people are affected by my actions is horrifying to me. My tics making people think I'm on drugs and being afraid of me, my panic att…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:53 PM
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Y'all do realise that younger women have this complaint as well, right? I'm in my mid 20s. I get plenty of male attention. I would presume that I am pretty attractive. I've seen the way 50 year old men with 50 year old women partners treat their partners. I see the mutual respect. I've seen the way 50 year old men who happen to be into me, but are not exclusively into women my age, treat me. They tend to be more respectful, treating me more like a person. I've seen the way 50 year old men who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:11 PM

Your entire comment history is only three things: Debating in this sub Asking for Dating Advice Talking about your severe mental health problems. If I had to guess, it'd be you doing the third one during dates. Early dates shouldn't be big and heavy. On dates that I've been on, if the other person didn't like me, they just ghosted me, not full on blocked me. If you're getting blocked, then you're probably doing or saying something very obnoxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 12:41 PM
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I do not benefit from a society in which children are born to parents who are incentivized to be lazy and just beg the state for handouts" If this is your claim, then your claim is that those children cannot provide any benefit to you. So my summary is correct. And this is like me saying "I do not benefit from a military in which soldiers rape poor foreign women." If child welfare is completely useless because it may sometimes advantage undeserving parents, then the military is completely useles…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:13 AM
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Strawman. I said: Source that it is impossible for a child with a bad or deadbeat parent upbringing to become a labourer or tax payer? Provide a source for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:07 AM
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I benefit from a generation of children who were born to responsible parents, not deadbeat parents. Source that it is impossible for a child with a bad or deadbeat parent upbringing to become a labourer or tax payer? Your entire argument seems to be "If the kid's dad is lazy, the kid will never provide anything useful to society". So, source that. Ironically, a lot of soldiers were kids with no father figure. The military recruiters notoriously prey on poor and desperate people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:01 AM
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Great, so you're pro child welfare, and anti lazy moms. And I am pro military protection and anti soldiers raping foreign women. And you agree that it's our job to pay taxes and let the elected officials deal with sorting out the two military options, so therefore, it's the same for the two parenting options. There is no evolutionary reason for me to do so. So many commentors, myself included, have repeatedly pointed out to you why you benefit from society having a next generation, which you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:51 AM
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Sure, we elect skilled officials to make this decision, but in general militaries are essential. Exactly, we elect skilled officials to make this decision, because each of us individual people aren't personally looking over each case. I can't declare that "Military funding just incentivises shipping men out to poor countries to rape women, and that's the only/primary purpose of it", even though that is one of the things that can and does occur at some rate. Child welfare helps all kids, whether …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:38 AM
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In general, militaries exist to protect the nations which they serve You pretty much proved my point there. In general, militaries exist to protect the nation, but we don't immediately discredit the military and throw it away the minute it happens to do something that does nothing to protect us. We don't weigh all of the "waste of time" versus "actually did something useful" before we hand it general funding. You don't tell the military "You can ONLY use this tax money to support the specific dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:23 AM
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You pay veterans to protect the country. My money is going to pay for that veteran regardless of if he did nothing except bomb and rape a bunch of innocent women in a far country. The majority of veterans alive today have done absolutely nothing to protect me. Yet, my taxes should still pay for the PTSD they got from watching their friends accidentally step on his own landmine. I am not being cucked by the state out of my own volition. You can leave the state at any time. If you don't want to pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:04 AM
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Men can opt out of the male role in reproduction (ejaculation). Why would it be fair for him to opt out of his role in reproduction and her role in reproduction (gestation)? Unless you think she should be allowed to force his ejaculation against his will. Or, I guess the comparison would be something like her physically grabbing his genitals right before he ejaculates against his will and forcefully stopping him from doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:48 AM
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You going to read my comment? I answered those questions in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:37 AM
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Safe haven laws are gender neutral. Basically, each party has the right to abort his or her biological role in reproduction. Once both has chosen to complete their individual role (ejaculation for him, gestation and birth for her), then both will have to decide together to abandon it to the state or have it be both of their responsibility. Their rights are equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:32 AM
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Most people would define feminism as "equal rights for men and for women". And those people are wrong. Egalitarianism or humanism is the "equal rights" one. Egalitarians invaded feminism. Feminism is "Freedom of women from oppression based on their female sex." The people actually versed in feminism with actual clear goals are the people who understand that. Effective rights movements aren't about making everyone equal, they are about specific issues faced by that specific group. The average sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:28 AM
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I literally never had a talk with my father about relationships. My mother told me about hymens, since she believes in that, and condom usage and the religious stuff, but my father has never given me any advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 08:44 PM
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That's the one, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 07:00 PM
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Very well, what is your source for how many books labelled "romance" have plots that are only about sex specifically and have no/few other main plot themes (such as, for example, romance), versus books labelled "romance" that may have sex as one of, but not the only theme? I can't address your claim until you back your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:57 PM
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How many scenes in an average romance book is explicit, compared to how many are not explicit? Where is your source? And what ratio would you consider "Plot with some sex" versus "Sex with some plot"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:10 PM
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They're not, though. The average person can basically only name 50SOG, or maybe that male stripper movie I can't remember the name of. Like, those two are basically the only ones who became famous. Meanwhile, porn for men is so commonplace that we barely notice it anymore. There is a running joke in the horror community about how often women are naked or killed in sexualised ways in horror movies, Game of Thrones ran for 8 seasons and like 1/4th of it was just sexy/naked women (very rarely were …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 03:32 PM
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You have yet to explain why you didn't make "Why do men hit on women?" a Question for Men. Most of the women are calling you out as well. Edit: Rather than actually answer the question, the dude blocked me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:17 AM
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That wasn't the OP question. The OP question was why men in general hit on me. To answer that as a woman, I'd have to know why all/most of the men who hit on me do it, not just the specific ones who ended up with me. Meanwhile, to answer that as a man, he'd have to just answer why he specifically did it. It's nonsensical to ask a woman a question an answer she couldn't know. I have no clue why 90% of the men who hit on me do it. I'm not in their head.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 03:50 AM
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That doesn't make this a reasonable question for women. You should be asking "What draws men to women" to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 03:41 AM
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Why would you ask women what draws men to us? We don't know what's in men's heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 03:29 AM
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Rule #2 and #3
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 10:58 PM
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The point is not to enjoy the thing, the point is to spend time around other people in a setting where you have something to focus on other than the specific person. For example, you go to the crafting event because doing something with your hands is physically and mentally good for you. You can use the crafting theme to launch into conversation with other people. Having a craft to think about puts you and them at ease, and makes you both much less anxious about your chatter. The more you go and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 08:58 PM
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Says the one afflicted by the "male loneliness epidemic".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 08:46 PM
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Well, yeah, when there is a whole other person in your house to call the ambulance and perform CPR when you have a heart attack, then you're more likely to not die.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 07:05 PM
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Making friends as an adult is damn near impossible I provided some examples on how to make new friends: My local library has lots of free adults events, like book club, writing group, craft and chill, board games, etc. Local rec centers often host pick-up games and sports. Local park centers often have free or cheap events for adults as well, like nature walks, crafting events, educational events, etc. If you're in a country that has any of these available, try them. And don't just stop attendin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 05:22 PM
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I explicitly said "I don't think most men are unattractive" My entire comment was literally that I don't know how many men are attractive, because I'm not looking at them. Did you mean to respond to someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 04:12 PM
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I'm Bisexual, yeah. Not really relevant to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 03:53 PM
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I don't think most men are unattractive, but I do think most women are attractive. I don't really look at men that much (mostly because it seems to draw their attention and make them think I'm hitting on them), so I don't consider the rate of attractive to neutral to ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 02:22 PM
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A white blonde woman from a upper middle class family or a brown man from a poor family? Already answered this to someone else: "Oppression is intersectional. It's not a single number, where, for example, a black lesbian woman is More/Less Oppressed tm than a disabled hispanic bisexual man and therefore has a higher Oppressed tm score. I agree, the Oppression Olympics thing is dumb. Each axis is a separate thing. A separate conversation. That's why we can't talk about race in this subreddit: the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:39 PM
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Of course we do. We know it every time men brag about how they could spend an hour car ride with their "bro" and not learn a single thing about him that entire time. Or when we go out to local free crafting or book club events at the library and see a room full of women. Or when men talk about "male loneliness epidemic" and solely think the solution is for women to touch his penis. We also know that humans are a social species, and there is nothing really stopping you from learning how to make f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:13 PM
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It just depends on the woman and situation. I used to work in a group home for people who were elderly, but had a specific type of disorder that normal senior care homes don't take. Some of our women were as follows: No kids, close relationship with her sister, couldn't be happier in her old age. No kids, close relationship with her sister and mother, active in the community, couldn't be happier in her old age. Had a daughter who died in an accident. Miserable and depressed (her daughter died fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:09 PM
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"I could have intimate sex with my bf in the morning, and fun sex with a friend in the evening."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:51 AM
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But for you, is it an expression of love? Or not really? Dude. Again. I literally just answered that in the first paragraph of my last comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:59 AM
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I never said it can't be an expression of love. Sex is what you want it to be. It can be love, it can be fun, it can be boring. I could have intimate sex with my bf in the morning, and fun sex with a friend in the evening. The only thing sex can't be is nonconsensual, because sex where at least one party doesn't consent is rape, not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:33 AM
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So, you admit that your question is biased based on your personal feelings? That the fact that other people are open doesn't mean they don't love, it just means they love in a way you don't understand? Everyone loves differently, that's okay. And you don't get to dictate other people's experience with it, just like I can't dictate yours. Is the no kissing thing purely cause of health reasons or cause you feel it’s too intimate you only want to safe it for your partner? I. Already. Answered. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:27 AM
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Physically riskier for women, financially/legally riskier for men. Emotional/social risk depends on the individual. I'd kinda agree with this, although the only reason it's financially/legally riskier for men is because of aggressive fighting by feminists to lower the risks to women that benefitted men, and has only been the case for the past 50 years or so. Likewise, the risk to men is deteriorating rapidly, since alimony and child custody are way more equal now than they used to be/not as much…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:19 AM
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Why are you lessening my relationship to just specific physical acts? I mean yeah, I don't share bodily fluids with other people just due to safety, but my love is way more than just some specific act. So there is nothing sexually unique about your love life with him No matter what I do with my friends, they are not the person who knows me and is sharing their lives with me. As I, again, already said, the uniqueness is that he and I share a life. A hug from a friend is not the same as a hug from…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:08 AM
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If I were from the same culture as her, then that argument could not definitively be made You already said you don't, so that's redundant, and I already answered that. I have more in common with an Indian woman than you would if you were Indian, because, while I've never been shoved into a menstrual hut, I understand the basis of being shamed and forced to hide my menstruation. You have never and will never have to think about your menstruation. A western woman probably is in a much better place…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:01 AM
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Are you actually reading my answer? I just answered all of those questions. I can break them down for you: How can you love him if you’re letting other men stick their dick inside you? "Fucking my friends, to me, is like sharing a hobby with them." it’s an expression of love. "Fucking ... to me, is like sharing a hobby..." So what do you save for him? What is unique to your relationship with him to show you love him "I share my life with him." My friends come and go in my life. My partner is bui…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:00 AM
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Different women are different categories. Based on their differences, but they are all still women. That's the point. I don't understand all of the woman things she experiences, but I do understand the core of both she and I have been valued by our having uteruses, both she and I lack proper medical studies on our female bodies, both she and I have the social pressure of carrying the brunt of the responsibility for contraception, both she and I have the problem that safety equipment sizing is ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:49 AM
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Because I love his time and company and building a life together with him. Fucking my friends, to me, is like sharing a hobby with them. One of my friends likes to draw with me. One of my friends likes to get pegged. One of my friends likes to go hiking. I don't fuck him because I love him. I love him because I love him. Fucking is just one of the many things we happen to like to do together. Fucking him is better than fucking my friends, just like doing any hobby with him is better than doing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:42 AM
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So many people asked this XD It's the logical solution, but it doesn't fit OP's narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:38 AM
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Lol, why would you ask a Question For Women post with such dishonesty? "Either you answer exactly how I want you to, or you're lying." The majority of people who said yes made it very clear that they are dating someone who is fine with it (either an open relationship, or just mostly mono but fine with the specific parameters). You refuse to acknowledge the fact that it's not cheating if you and your partner are okay with it. Literally no woman responded "I would sneak behind my partner's back an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:34 AM
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What exactly is the point of the line of questions? If there is a specific end point you're trying to get, please get to it, rather than asking one question at a time. It's suspicious that you're only questioning people who didn't say neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:27 AM
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For what? Given that I wouldn't be dating a guy who would feel bad about me sleeping with other people (especially if he gets $5 Million out of it), and the selection was made by a fair coin flip, who's getting hurt? I mean, I guess I'd feel a little bad that my partner didn't get to bang a hot woman too, thanks to your "we don't both get to do it" rule. It ain't as fun if it's just me having fun. But the coin flip is to blame for that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:20 AM
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Aww, you're no fun. I'd probably just flip a coin, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:38 PM
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We can’t really talk about race here, but aren’t minority men of an oppressed class? Yes, a black man in USA is oppressed on the axis of race, but not on the axis of sex. For example, black men oppress black women in their own communities (such as obsessing over rappers who rap about raping and beating women, or abandoning the mothers of their kids in high numbers), and back during slavery times, slave owners knew the difference between black women and black men, since they knew which ones to ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:22 PM
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So, that answers your previous question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:07 PM
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And most of what you’re describing sounds like basic life management. If you’re single, you’d still be doing those things for yourself. Yes, and I'm describing things I've seen about an entire adult, the man, not doing them for himself, and another entire adult, the woman, doing all of them for herself and for himself. And the man claiming that she's not doing enough, because he's convinced she's doing only like 10% of hiding the stress from him, while she's actually doing 10x as much that he is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:42 PM
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Where in my response did I say I was married?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:41 PM
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Agreed, but if women started actually acknowledging the unfair share of emotional load, women would never marry at all. Then, there is the religious or childhood grooming aspect, that teaches that a woman who doesn't do all of this for her husband ranges from worthy of burning in hell, to just generally worthless as a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:03 PM
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Yeah, being treated like a computer, an emotional punching bag, his nanny, his maid, and all of that while tricking him into thinking that you're not stressed or overwhelmed at all, takes an emotional toll. Then you tried to switch to a long ramble about whataboutism. Your question was where the emotional aspect was in my list. That's what we're discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:02 PM
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Men are just going to be to the right of me regardless. As one feminist thinker put it: "men are liberal from the waist up". The left is about uplifting the oppressed classes, and as an oppressor class, men will just never really be able to have see liberalism the same way as women do, likewise with any other oppressor/oppressed group. That doesn't mean all women are left: of course not. Most are likely either center or right (there are two ways to fight oppression: be a "pick-me" and turn on yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:52 PM
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I don't know any men who do any of these things, or at least never to the extent that their wives/girlfriends do. The emotional aspects are, in order: Worrying (about his health), being practised in processing remembering lots of little things, keeping the peace (being more worried about him being stressed about seeing her workload than her workload), keeping track of and assuming responsibility for his overwhelm (while not keeping track of her own), reducing aggression and remaining calm and fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:40 PM
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Bisexual women have the highest rate of being domestically abused than any other sexuality/sex combo. (There is a myth that it's lesbians by other lesbians. No, it's bi women by men). Bi women have the worst mental health if I recall as well. Straight men fetishize us because they think our love for women is just something that exists to get their dicks hard. Lesbians hate us because they think our love for women is just us lying to get men's dicks hard. Straight women hate bi men because they t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:31 PM
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Some things I consider emotional labour: Doing the planning for the future. He eats whatever he wants, and lets me do all of the worrying about his weight and pushing him to exercise. My father is a diabetic, and literally does nothing to take care of his health. My mother has to do all of his blood sugar monitoring, give him his insulin, plan his meals, etc. He is literally at risk of dying, and doesn't care. (Or, he feels bad, I guess, but not enough to actually take any charge.) Keeping track…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:15 PM
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I mean, if I'm letting him do it, it's not cheating. Can we both do it and both get 10$million? I know you said that we can't "even the score", but like it's not evening the score, we're just both going for it. Sucks that we can't be open relationship after we get the money, though. Is there like a timeframe until we're allowed to be open again?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 01:57 PM
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And that's not to mention that he can't simply find another woman if things don't work out with this one, because he's unattractive Yeah, that's the point. He's afraid that if she leaves him, he will never get another girl. So he manipulates her into never leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:17 PM
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Since when attractive men being abusive is perceived as not as bad as ugly men being abusive I didn't say the abuse specifically is not as bad. Also, this is why I am using "incompatible": this isn't just about abuse. I used that as an example, not the be-all, end-all. Okay, let's try an analogy. I want to get a cat. I love to cuddle, so I want a cuddly cat (this will represent good behaviour). Also, I don't like how flat-faced cats look. I prefer a full, more standard muzzle. (This will represe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 07:11 PM
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You never talked about compatibility in the first comment. I did that to help you be less confused about the point I am making. "Bad" is too loose of a term and confused you from my point, so "compatible" makes it more clear for you. Try reading and responding to the my previous comment with that in mind, and see if it makes more sense there (not trying to sound flippant, but don't know how best to say that, sorry).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:21 PM
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It’s so rare for an attractive woman to give some ugly dudes a chance That's such an intentionally loose claim that it's useless to the conversation. That use of "Some" means that you can define the parameters however you want that's convenient to you. And I didn't say anything about the attractiveness of the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:00 PM
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The problem is the conflation of "bad" here. Both men can be morally incompatible. Ugly men are [presumed for this conversation] men who are aesthetically incompatible. A good ugly man is morally compatible, aesthetically incompatible. A bad ugly man is morally incompatible, aesthetically incompatible. A good pretty man is morally compatible, aesthetically compatible. A bad pretty man is morally incompatible, aesthetically compatible. If you have one of each man, you have a 1 in 4 chance of gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:55 PM
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I don't see your logic. My point was that if you are seeking a partner, and attractiveness only greatly correlates with attractiveness, not really much else about the guy, then there is no point in sacrificing attractiveness. Doing so won't greatly boost your numbers in other satisfaction departments, if at all. You can find a guy who makes you happy. It's not more likely than not that the guy in question is unattractive to you. So, on your quest for your couple, don't turn down the hot guy just…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:25 PM
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An attractive man can be shallow. So can an ugly man. An attractive man can be deep. So can an ugly man. An attractive man can abuse his woman because "he can just get another one". An ugly man can abuse his woman because he wants to break her spirit and believe that she doesn't deserve any better than him. Getting an ugly man doesn't guarantee deepness, kindness, or love, so why settle for a man she's not attracted to? Edit: Circlejerking is against the rules of this sub. A bunch of guys in thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:52 PM
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I would push memes of men being responsible for caring about men, such as getting degrees in mental health care: counseling, therapy, psychiatry, etc, and doing so out of an honest want to care about other men. Basically, memes about shaming men's self-harm and encouraging men's self-care. (REAL self-care). Men who work mental health and nursing jobs would have memes praising him, especially if he makes sure to protect his female colleagues from male client abuse, and works to help his male clie…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:57 PM
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Does not make my life worse. Makes my life better. That's about it. Everything I could list as a requirement would be boiled into those two things. Alcohol drinking? Fine unless he's drinking our savings away or is otherwise irresponsible with it. Doesn't have a job? Fine if I have a career at the time that can support both of us, not fine if I don't. Weight? As long as it's not too much that it affects our life negatively, or too less that it affects our life negatively, I don't care about spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:56 PM
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which is why they’re protected and compensated on different scales of magnitude. Which is irrelevant to my point. My point was just the fact that they're not comparable. That utilizing the only real method by which one can legally and morally have biological offspring as a single man with no custody issues is shameful? I did not contribute a moral argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:55 PM
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Wanting to be a single father is not indicative of being a bad person. Strawman. My claim wasn't "Wanting to be a single father is bad". It's "Sperm donation and Surrogacy aren't comparable, because there are too many differences between them. Having no complaints with Sperm Banks and having complaints with Surrogacy is therefore not contradictory/Double standards".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:41 PM
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Literally all of those are covered through any reasonable surrogacy contract. Except it's not. There are plenty of cases of the parents treating the surrogate like garbage, abandoning the baby, or people who are convicted sex offenders getting surrogate kids (since the adoption industry has balances in place to stop that, but surrogacy does not). The surrogacy industry is too unstable and too reliant on poor, desperate women who can't afford the court fees of chasing down the abandoning parents,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:19 PM
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While I don't think a man should be shamed for adopting, the conception comparison (sperm bank vs surrogate) isn't similar. Getting sperm from a sperm bank is way different from hiring a woman for 9 months to go through pregnancy and birthing for you. There is often criticism about risks such as the surrogation payment not covering pregnancy costs, what would happen if the fetus is still born or disabled or the father changes his mind, if there are any neurological harms to woman or baby from ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:41 PM
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We can't really help that the fear of being disbelieved is a factor, for ex. The way to treat the issue is described in the second study. Also, as the last study points out, we don't even have statistics on how many allegations are false, so by definition, we wouldn't have statistics on how many "the falsified allegation was false" there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:09 PM
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Here's an article that talks about it, although this article is about domestic abuse, the events still apply [Here's one that talks about sexual abuse recantations It notes, quote: The majority of adult sexual assault survivors do not report the crime to police. Studies have found non-reporting rates of ranging from 54% to 98% (Feldhaus et al., 2000; Jones et al., 2009; Langerdorfer-Magruder, 2016; Thompson et al., 2007). The reasons for not reporting vary from person to person and include: expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:39 PM
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How can someone claim to be an advocate for victims while defending or staying silent when an allegation turns out to be false? Proving a claim false is a tricky one, because then you have to figure out if the "proof of the claim being false" is itself a false claim. People who report sexual abuse crimes get bullied and harassed by the community and by the police to whom they reported, and are forced to relive the trauma over and over again. Often, they will recant to get out of that pain, or wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:06 PM
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There are remarkable creatures in nature that operate in a hive mind Living in a hive and being hive-minded are two different things. Hive-minded usually refers to a fictional species that shares the same brain, like the Borg. It's not a bad thing to call women hive-minded, it's a stupid thing. We literally do not all have the same brain. Even if you're going the bee or ant angle: those are beings that do not have higher conscious. If you put death pheromones on a living ant, it will walk to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:46 PM
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Getting to know the person, doing something with them, getting out of the house in general, being a member of a social species, etc. What I'm looking for is what in the whole process do you get out of it? It's literally that. The whole process. The whole process is a variant of social and emotional connection, which produces oxytocin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:48 PM
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Impossible to tell, and useless anyway. I will either find a good partner, or I won't. Either way, I can make a satisfactory life for myself. Your example doesn't make any sense. I don't have any people lined up for me. I'm either interested in them, and they've turned me down, which is why I'm not currently dating them, or I'm not interested in them/we're not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:45 PM
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Its not funny to make women uncomfortable Boys have snapped my bra straps, broken or done sexual things to my toys in front of me just to get a reaction out of me, flashed me, and asked about my pubic hair status in the middle of my work day and in front of the children with whom I was working. Men have followed me around a club silently staring at me, followed me around a grocery store silently staring at me, followed me in his car for miles while I was walking, and for that last one, after I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:54 PM
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Sure, but right off the bat you admit that you're debating in bad faith, since you weren't looking for a debate, and I didn't give a debate. Not to mention that I've debated you before, at the end of which you revealed you had been debating in bad faith the entire time. If you had made this a debate post, I wouldn't have responded because I know you're not an honest debater. I only answered because I expected you to be civil and not try to trick a debate out. Since you're not doing that, I will …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 12:11 PM
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Ok I'll try to debate this seriously This is a Q4W post, not a debate post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:42 AM
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I have plenty of sober casual sex. I'd presume that most sex women do is sober, solely because sex is free and alcohol is not. if you can't do casual sex without alcohol then you never wanted it at all. Tbf, being tipsy is just a horniness trigger for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:31 PM
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Yes it’s called getting teased and it’s a way men flirt with women. Non-malicious. Just boys who don’t know how to express their feelings (which is hardly surprising). Little boys bully... girls they like Whoop, there it is. This is exactly why men don't grow out of it. A girl complains about a boy snapping her bra (as in, putting his hands on her and grabbing her underwear), and she's told that "boys will be boys" and "he just likes you". You're literally proving your own case wrong, by giving …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:39 PM
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You should probably use actual sources. The first is just a woman rambling (I would try to summarize her points, but honestly, I have no clue what she's saying). The second is just a woman saying she doesn't like guys in dresses, not specifically about her not liking men being feminine in general, and then it ends with her saying she learned to love it after she unpacked her understanding of masculinity, and the third is a rambly article behind a paywall. You literally just picked three ragebait…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:36 PM
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Men go out of their way to bother women and girls all of the time. I have brothers. They had male friends. I was around boys in classes. I know firsthand. My brothers harass me in non-sexual ways. The other boys harassed me in non-sexual ways until they hit puberty, and suddenly they were harassing me with the same look in their eyes, except now it was sexual. And men have that same look as they do the same thing. It's pretty well-known that little boys especially bully little girls explicitly b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:01 PM
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Why would a dude risk hitting on a young girl just to disturb her? Another guy in the comments already answered that from his perspective: Men perceive attractive women as some sort of "threat" to his power, so they do it to "humble" her. Basically, he's doing a thing he knows she doesn't want him to do and forcing her to pay attention to him and think about his attraction to her. Older men aren't stupid. They know their comments are unwarranted and make her feel uncomfortable. Just like a littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:23 PM
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Ooh, this is a good one. I'd do something along this line as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:20 PM
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What makes you say that? Basically, the information on his initial arrest was super suspect. I'd have to go back and look over those conversations from back in January, but if I recall, it was things like: A note admitting to the crime was found in his backpack, but uses specific wording that primarily only cops would use and was unfamiliar with his usual writing style. The killer intentionally left his backpack and weapon near the scene of the crime as a message, but Luigi was caught by identif…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:16 PM
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I don't like that women are not taught to pursue/how to pursue. It is so hard as a female to get a girlfriend, because we get stuck in a loop of waiting for the other to pursue XD
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:55 PM
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I never really thought of it that way, that's a good point. The reason old, geriatric men hit on teenage me was because they felt slighted and wronged by this little me just existing. He knows he has the power to hurt or humiliate me with the unearned status of his sex, but me just existing made him feel threatened and like he needed to lash out. It's an especially good analogy, since Luigi Mangione didn't even do anything. He's just some guy that got framed. So, his name is literally a threat t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:45 PM
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Geriatric men don't hit on 20-year-olds because they think the 20 year old wants them. Geriatric men hit on 20-year-olds because they find it funny to make 20-year-old women uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:02 PM
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We're a sexually dimorphic species, so no, we're not the same. No matter what you do, a male human will never see past his male socialization and his role in reproduction (as the one who spreads genetic diversity), and a female human will never see past her female socialization and her female role in reproduction (as the one who is at least initially the primary caretaker for the child). There are similar patterns we see with animals who are like us, both on the genus level and the sapience leve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:58 PM
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Would you rather date an NBA player or a nerdy tech geek? Depends on the player and the geek? You'd need to provide more information. Main athletes I wouldn't date are the ones from concussion/violence sports, like football, boxing, etc. I wouldn't marry or hook up with a person with brain damage who does violence as a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:53 PM
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"Not sure if you're even dating" implies that I can't pick 1, because he's not interested in being my partner. (The title question says "partner", not just FWB). If I actually have assurance that we're in a relationship, and he's honest about his other endeavours (I don't mind poly/open), and he always uses protection with them, then he's fine. 2 is out due to the "stubbornly thinks I'm a virgin". The rest of the points are decent, but I'd be open about not being a virgin, so that means he is ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:38 PM
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Why would they? Being single is also an option. I run in the kink community, and people my age (20s) who are in the kink community tend to be rather bad with money/mentally unstable. I am the rare few of young adult kinksters who is stable, career, renting independently, etc, and happen to be a kinkster. Which means I know people like me exist. It's hard to find people like me, but I won't settle for someone unstable or someone who is anti-kink, when I know a stable person exists, and just stayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:09 PM
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Yeah, that's why I just said it's a red flag, not a deal breaker. Although, if he's like that second example, that definitely screams "manchild that lives with mom because he can't be bothered to do his own cooking and cleaning". If you've got that much money saved up and have absolutely no interest in independence, that's concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:42 AM
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"Unreasonable" and "Red Flag" are two different things. I don't think finding ways to save money is unreasonable in and of itself, and that is a logical way to save money. By "red flag", I mean it would make me more suspicious and observant of his behaviour to make sure that when he says he is just planning for the future, he's being honest, and not just secretly planless and making excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:54 AM
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"Own", no. "At least have his own apartment and pay his own rent (with or without roommates)", depends on age and circumstance. If he has a good reason to still be with his parents in his 30s and not paying any rent or anything (ex. A parent is sick and he is helping care for them, he honestly just had a streak of really bad luck, etc), that's fine. In his 30s and renting an apartment with a roommate is fine. Rent's pricey nowadays. But if he's in his 30s and doesn't pay his own rent/bills, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:22 AM
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Can't get pregnant, and gay bathhouse-type culture looks interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 08:47 PM
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I'm not sure what this comment is intended to contribute to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:13 PM
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ENORMOUS. Like The Mountain. 6'9 and 450 pounds. RIP your knees and back!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:23 PM
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You brought an argument to me. Once again, I did not bring an argument to you. I agreed with you and helped build your case. Now, you're arguing with me about whether I want to argue with you, which is weird, so I'm going to mute and drop this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:20 PM
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I'm so confused at the hostility and why you're convinced that I'm arguing against you. I was just adding to your point, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:07 PM
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How would you want to look? Able to hold muscle, able to grow a decent beard, maybe 5'10 or so. I'd be a bit fem for a guy, so I wouldn't want to be very tall. Wash sort of career would you want? I'm currently a case manager for people with Autism. I'd hope I'd still be doing that as a guy, especially since mental health jobs like this are desperate for male workers, since we know male clients work better with them. I'd probably be a hero in my job, and have a lot of leverage for raises and what…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:05 PM
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What? No one believes women “didn’t have to lift a finger”, The women who have that complaint think about the housewife workload as similar as it is today, because they don't realise that things like washing machines and vacuum cleaners being easily accessible are somewhat recent inventions. But also, they believe that they would just get to be stay-at-home wives/mothers, despite the fact that women have always worked out of the house as well, doing things like factory, farm, and textile work. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:52 PM
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Neither of these are feminists( Kamala Harris, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Angela Merkel) . Kamala Harris: Has fought for abortion rights Has fought against sex-trafficking Has fought for more safety and regulations when it comes to detaining pregnant women Introduced the Maternal Care Access and Reducing Emergencies, which is for focusing on issues that pregnant and birthing black women face in healthcare access AOC: Has fought against the beauty standards forced on women Has fought for abortion …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:21 PM
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What most people mean when they say “feminism is bad for women!” is “feminism makes it harder for men to get women to need them.” And women in the workforce who honestly believe that if it weren't for feminism, they'd be sitting at home watching the tele and not have to lift a finger to work. They don't understand that women have always been in the workforce, they just couldn't always own their earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:10 PM
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No, femdom is just as much about female submission to men as femsub is. You can tell by the fact that in femdom, she is usually required to wear tight, restrictive clothing (very high heels, corsets), wear full make-up, and scenes usually involve her pleasuring or stimulating the man, but rarely her getting directly stimulated or pleasured. (As opposed to maledom, where the man is usually wearing comfortable non-restrictive clothing, not expected to wear make-up, and is more likely to receive di…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:08 PM
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You don't LIKE my characterization of (average, neurotypical, heterosexual) women's general fantasies I don't like the weird malice you made-up while you tell me that you know what's in my head better than I do. But NEITHER sex's (normal/typical) sexual fantasies come from a place of wholesome pure selfless pro-sociality and/or compassion-for-the-weak I get that you don't appreciate empathy and pro-sociality, but that doesn't mean no man or woman does. Speak for yourself, dude. It certainly DOES…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:49 AM
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The beast is still tamed. For her. I'm not sure what you mean by "beast is tamed for her", when the whole point is that he is no longer weighed by the trauma that makes him afraid of being submissive and respectful. That would apply to his interactions with anyone. And also that it ends in them having two kids, so clearly, he's not just paying attention to her. He's not just a husband, he's a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:38 PM
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I have been having casual sex for about 3 years now and I'm getting burnt out on the same old cycle. Have you tried doing non-sexual things with him as well? Every FWB I've had, we had at least 2 non-sexual things to do. Sure, we bang, but we also go to conventions together, or we draw together, or go out to lunch to hang out, have nature walks, etc. The "Friend" in "Friend with benefits".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:32 PM
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And they look identical to the fresh ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:50 PM
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Grapes have never sexually assaulted, screamed at, or stalked me for deciding not to eat them. Women's ire/fear toward men doesn't spawn out of nowhere. It spawns out of being raised by a mother who couldn't keep a bank account in her own name, being raised in a church that teaches that it's your fault if a man rapes you. It's spawned out of trauma, either our own, or that of our women friends. My mother insisted she couldn't possibly hate men, yet she still banned me from having a male gynecolo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:13 PM
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The "helping Christian learn to be vulnerable" is because his own introduction into BDSM was when he was abusively groomed by his previous dom (a woman), and Ana helping him learn to overcome that trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:50 AM
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Women think they have a power People think they have a power to make bad go away. As my last paragraph said, its' not just a woman thing. The only difference is that men want to defeat evil with violence, and women want to defeat evil with love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:48 AM
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My experience is similar to yours, I've been cold approached by ugly men, handsome men, old men, young men, teenagers, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 11:30 PM
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feminism has caused wealth and status equality among men and women, though women still won't "date down", Plenty do, but also feminism hasn't removed the fact that a woman's career will be harmed by the fact that she can get pregnant. From jobs assuming she will get pregnant and not wanting to promote her, to having to take off for birthing and lactation, and she will likely be the one who has to deprioritize her job to be available for her kid if he needs to leave school early. Women don't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 10:48 PM
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Male romantic leads written by women seem to only know how to dominate, lead, dominate some more and let out a manly grunt during sex. Did you actually read the erotic literature, or just scan the summary on the back of the book? The books usually involve the man being aggressive because he's guarded or traumatised, and the woman has to unlock that and get him to be vulnerable. The fantasy isn't "mean man is nice to me", it's "Bad people will become good people if you're kind and patient to them…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:05 PM
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Nah, my friend was a good student who did nothing but study until he turned 30 or so. He then spent 10 years in the sluttiest bisexual hoephase imaginable, and now he's got a wife and two kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:57 PM
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This depends very heavily on the severity of the autism. Autism can make it hard to process sensory information, so having two autistic people who, for example, are both unable to control their volume, but also both sensitive to other people making loud sounds, will be disastrous for both of them. I work as a case manager for autistic people, and one of the struggles I have in finding resources for them is that many autistic people can't stand being around other autistic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:36 PM
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Depends on the parents. Roommates have way less power over my partner than his parents. I don't have to impress his roommates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:31 PM
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In my mind, me and that woman were equals. Tbf, you're not both equals, unless you are a single dad. Staying with her mum means she has more assistance with the childcare. does dating traditionally workout for women like her? Sure it does, happens all of the time. There will be a little bit of difficulty in finding a man who doesn't mind her already having kids, but that will be the hardest part. Finding a man whose home is more stable than hers wouldn't be too hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:30 PM
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And how many people do they have on their team to view these cases? 20 complaints per day seems super small. One person could crack those out pretty easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:00 AM
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This was clearly not for the purposes of alerting people. If you need to “alert” your local community of something, you don’t post it on your public Tiktok profile for anyone, including those outside of your community, to see. Sure you could. If I put on Facebook a couch I'm trying to get rid of, you could see that without being anywhere near me. Doesn't mean I'm trying to give you the couch. I don’t have the answers to since I am definitely not a lawyer. That's fair. You don't have any objectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:59 PM
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You don't know how many more serious reports were disregarded just to make her specific report a priority. Well, now I want to know. Do you have any data? You claim that it's a lot, so I'm curious where you got that number.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:18 PM
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Exactly, hence why she made sure that in her neighbourhood, other Dashers were protected as soon as possible. I'm not sure why you keep arguing for "They can't possibly be expected to move quickly!" When they objectively can and did move quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:15 PM
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Alerting people is not vigilantism. It's neighbourly. Providing evidence during the alert is not always required, but she did so to avoid claims that she was lying. Because now she has posted what could legally be considered revenge porn of an assumed innocent man since he was not afforded due process That is actually a really interesting question: If someone exposes themselves to you without your consent, therefore sexually assaulting you, and you post a video of them sexually assaulting you, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:14 PM
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Exactly. If they have a reason to care, they will care. If it's just one complaining Dasher, then shove it aside and not care, while the man flashes his next driver. And the next few until it finally gets heard, if ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:41 PM
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I don’t understand why she didn’t just get evidence for the police Because the police have just as little reason to care as DoorDash does, if the rest of the public aren't aware to hold them accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:30 PM
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So realistically maybe a day after it went viral. So it does take them a day to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:29 PM
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But she literally took less than a single day to report to them and then post the video on Tiktok. Like I'm sorry, but name any large global company with millions of users and employees that makes a response to a particular report in less than 2 days. Nobody is that efficient. How long did it take them to act when the video went viral?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:59 PM
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She reported it first to DoorDash, then posted it to Tiktok to get views. How do you know that DoorDash's response only happened before the TikTok was posted to bring attention to the situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 08:34 PM
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So, it would have been okay to post it on the internet only after she sent it to DoorDash and they did nothing first? That's not unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 08:24 PM
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She was stupid for not just doing her damn job and leaving, and evil for getting him on camera. Problem is that if she didn't get him on camera, people would have claimed that she just lied about the whole thing. DoorDash probably wouldn't have done anything about him if she didn't get the video, or got it and only gave it to DoorDash. Damned if you show proof, damned if you don't show proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:58 PM
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You've moved the goalposts so far that you're in another sports field entirely, dude. I'll give you credit that you're having three different simultaneous debates right now, so It's not unreasonable that you lost my original point. Given the last sentence, I'd presume that you're getting about as exhausted as I am, so I'm going to mute and leave this one, and focus on more productive conversations. This was a good convo for a while, though, even if it did end up kinda falling all over the place.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:51 PM
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That would be fine if feminism didn't claim to be for equality, They don't, or at least the ones who actually read feminist theory don't. There is a confusion there, I know. It's because egalitarians for some reason took over feminism and pushed this "feminism is for everyone" crap. They ignore actual feminist theory, they ignore data, and they don't care that focusing on everyone leaves them no energy to actually help anyone. A real feminist only stops men's rights activists if the MRA is activ…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:14 PM
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Just to be clear, are we talking about fantasy, or are we talking about irl stuff? We can talk about both, but we were talking about fantasy stuff and now you're bringing in a completely different issue. It's irrelevant. In porn, femdoms wear high heels, makeup, and tight-restrictive clothing. In IRL kink scenes I've seen, femdoms wear high heels, makeup, and tight-restrictive clothing. In porn and in real life, maledoms may start off with like a suit and tie sometimes, but usually, they start o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:09 PM
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I'm sorry but no. Women are far more picky. Sorry, I misspoke, I meant women have more to pick from. They have more options. But there are significantly more women who want to be dominated and significantly less women who want to dominate, while most men tend to to either be dominant or switch. Already answered. The exact same group of feminists who constantly do vocal calling out of anything and everything that could be even remotely sexist. The exact same group of feminists who constantly do v…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:58 PM
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It is still true however that there are far far far more men willing to be dominated, than there are women willing to dominate men I answered that elsewhere: It's basically just because women aren't as picky, so they can get away with not having to be as open in interests. Both men and women want to be dominated, but women have more to choose from, so a man's options are "Dominate, and hope eventually she will decide to dominate me back sometime" or "Don't get a woman". Whereas, a woman can ask …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:30 PM
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Can you ask your question in an actual sentence? I still have no clue what your question is here. Edit: Sorry, thought you were the same guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:26 PM
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all idealize and fantasize about the top 1% of men who are tall, muscular, dominant, charismatic, and caring, How many men in women's erotica novels do things that make it hard to breathe, damage the muscles in their feet and ankles with high-heels, or paint unknown chemicals on their faces to the point of having trouble feeling comfortable with their real faces? but if that's the logic you're using for men and femdom, then what I wrote above is the exact same logic you used when it comes to wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:25 PM
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Oh yeah, I won't argue against the point that 50 Shades is an abusive relationship with very inaccurate informstion on basic safety. My point was just that it's not just women wanting to be dominated, it's women wanting to know that dominant men are actually secretly weak to her, and his desire to dominate her is actually just him submitting to her desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 05:32 PM
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Many many many many men absolutely want a femdom who is enjoying herself. If that was the case, then the vast majority of femdom porn would have the woman in the same clothes male doms wear: comfortable, loose fitting clothes, flat shoes, no makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 05:30 PM
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I looked that word up, and couldn't find a definition for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:03 PM
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So what is the probleman? probleman?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 03:15 PM
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Yeah, there are a lot of reasons they do that, but the biggest reason is pretty obvious: convenience. As I said, If men had the easy ability to get sex and opt out of having to do any physical work, they'd take it in a heartbeat. It's not "Most women want to be dominated". It's "Most men want to dominate, and being dominated means women have to do less work, so they just go with it".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:29 PM
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50 shades sold 165 Million copies for a reason. Ironically, 50 Shades isn't about a world where men are all dominant and women are all submissive. A core plot point is that Christian Grey's first BDSM experience was when he was dommed by an abusive woman, and about the protagonist learning how to dom him back in a way to help him get through his trauma and learn to love being dommed again, and the couple eventually learning how to be equal and respectfully dominate each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:53 PM
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If men had the easy ability to get sex and opt out of having to do any physical work, they'd take it in a heartbeat. What I've found in my experience in the kink community, is that submissives on both sides are the most common, and femdoms are the least common (probably since femdoms as advertised in porn are designed for the male gaze, with tight, restrictive clothing, make-up, high-heels, etc, and not comfort). The reason that men tend to advertise themselves as dominant more often is because …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:52 PM
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This. When a man gets turned down by an attractive woman, he gets pissed off because "How dare she think she's better than him just because she's pretty?" When a man gets turned down by an unattractive woman, he gets pissed off because "How dare she think she's better than him? Does she really think she's worth a man higher than her league?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:35 PM
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Domestic violence becomes an addiction for three reasons: "Don't deserve better" mentality, religious control, and "Calm Before The Storm". Don't Deserve Better: The victim is manipulated into thinking that they are worth the abuse they receive, that no good person would want a "tainted" partner, or that the abuser is actually above average, and treats them better than any other person would. Religious Control: The religion manipulates the victim into thinking "if I put up with this now, I will …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 04:32 PM
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They are "Pick-mes". The problem is that "Pick-me" stereotypes never mention why women want to be picked. They are just blamed for wanting to be picked. It is common for an oppressed person to want to appease the oppressor party, to lighten the pain that that individual oppressed person feels. They do selfishly choose their own hide over standing strong with their group, but having to make that choice at all is still a sign of their oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 03:45 PM
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Bringing up the Third World examples is showing that in every situation where a man forces things on women, mothers will force it on their daughters to protect their daughters from the ire of the fathers and brothers. In the first world, teenage girls are still way more at risk from being pregnant than teenage boys are. A teenage girl who gets pregnant and is pressured or forced to carry to term will lose access to an equal education to what a boy gets. And in the Bible Belt, teenage girls are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 02:16 PM
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Because conservative values are designed to weaken women more than they are designed to weaken men. If girls are given poor sex-ed, then pushed to drop out of highschool and raise their resulting teen pregnancies, they when that girl becomes a woman, she won't have the education to educate her daughters on how to avoid her fate. When girls are taught that she should submit to her husband and not taught how to make her own choices, then she won't know how to leave behind conservative values. Or, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 01:57 PM
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There is so much media showing perfect women with the perfect life with a lot of them not doing much to achieve it. I don't know any media that shows women have perfect lives without doing anything to achieve it. Most media don't show what women do, but that doesn't mean they do nothing. It just means it's not interesting to show the work. So how do you remain so confident or have ego when there is so much competition or people who just out right are just more capable of getting more out of life…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 01:25 PM
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Not particularly, no. Depends on what I'm scrolling. I generally scroll the art side of social media nowadays, and when I scroll art that is better than mine, I study it to learn what tricks I can add to my art from it. If I scroll depression-bate/rage-bait, then I feel a bit bad. Like stuff about how the environment is getting destroyed or whatnot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 02:01 AM
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"This whole thread" didn't make a debate post. You did. I'm only here to debate with people who bring their words to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 12:12 AM
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For example, a man wearing tight compression shorts without a cover-up that clearly outlines his groin would instantly attract disgust or accusations of being inappropriate I get the overall complaint, but it's just an unfortunate side effect of having so much external genitalia is just that you can't compare a woman going skin-tight with a man going skin-tight. A man can have something that hugs his ass, which is comparable to a woman having something that hugs her ass. A man can have something…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:00 PM
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It's been legal in my country for a long time and no women do it lol. Already responded to that: "the order will have to be legal (you're here), then giver, then receiver." men will not accept being shamed like you're suggesting You can call it a pipe dream all you want, but the fact that this has happened repeatedly for other body parts before, with full success, jut proves you wrong. That's about all I have for this conversation, since you're just going to keep "nuh-uh"ing despite the proof th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:19 PM
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Given that women can be arrested or sexually assaulted, the order will have to be legal, then giver, then receiver. So, legalise it, then men shame other men, then encourage women (and encourage them in a non-sexual way).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:33 PM
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Shall we conscript the first segment of the female population for the first step, or will it be voluntary? Did we ever conscript any of the examples of other times this has occurred? Did we ever require people to wear sandals to denormalise foot fetishes, require women to show their ankles and wrists to normalize their neutrality, etc? I gave you several real world examples of this actually happening with other body parts. I'm not sure why you're not taking any of those into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:32 PM
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Your responses are garbage. Reading them doesn't actually help them make sense or be useful. Civility is a rule on this subreddit. I will answer your question, because it is a valid question, but you are required on this sub to ask it with civility. How do we magically erase all the conditioning our society has gone through since ankles were the bee's knees? Three parts, the receiver side, the giver side, and the legal side. The Receiver (The one who receives the attention): Do it. We normalised…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:50 PM
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You can't just say let's be like some obscure tribe in sub Saharan Africa. I didn't say that. I said "Let's be like most cultures throughout history. Let's be like Americans were literally 100 years ago when they changed from sexualising ankles to not sexualising ankles." Are you actually going to bother reading my responses?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:22 PM
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So your solution is to just stop sexualizing breasts? Lol jfc how would you even go about doing that, exactly? The same way it's done in every society that doesn't sexualise breasts, or for any breast that isn't stereotypically sexualised. You do realise that all across the world, there are places where nudity or breasts specifically aren't sexualised, right? Japanese people at the sauna don't go around oggling each other. The average artist has to study nude figures to learn how to draw anatomy…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:17 PM
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That doesn't mean they aren't sexualised as much or even more than vaginas. That doesn't make them as sexual as vaginas, though. Ankles and wrists also used to be sexualised as much as vagina. That is society's fault, not breast's fault. The solution is to stop sexualising breasts so much. If an obese man's breasts aren't censored despite being bigger than mine, then mine shouldn't either. (Neither of ours should be, but still).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:00 PM
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I don't think it's unreasonable to have more than one person in the "first two dates", or "first month of seeing each other" (whichever is the shorter period). I think by the end of those, though, you should be sending off the less preferred option.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:57 PM
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Now if men started dressing the same way how would you feel? If men at formal events had clothes that showed their entire chest area and buttcheeks. Showing off butt cheeks isn't "formal" for women either outside of the Mett Gala, and I totally think men should be as nude as women at the Mett Gala. If men wore sheer see through tight pants where you could literally see their dick. How often do you see a woman's vulva in formal wear (outside of, again, one of those rich people galas that exist to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:41 PM
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A woman asking a man to help her move implies she wants him there to do all the heavy lifting she can't do herself. Last time I helped my female friend move, there were only women working. Of course, this resulted in every object over 20lbs getting left behind because our dainty little woman hands couldn't lift them. Or you can get free labor by batting your eyelashes at your new guy friend, squeezing his muscles and cooing about how strong he is, and he'll do anything for you Not every woman is…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 08:07 PM
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Anger at the sense that they feel like they were being lead on by your (friendly) affection? Sure why not? You get angry when someone doesn't want to touch your dick after they hung out with you? Or maybe, in some cases, you actually were using him for free labor or meals, and were intentionally disingenuous in your interest. Don't pretend that doesn't happen sometimes too. I helped my friend move, and not once did I get mad that she didn't sit on my face afterwards. I've bought friends lunch an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 07:57 PM
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None of this addresses my point, which is: women are generally complaining about a specific thing: "I am pretending that I have no interest in dating you whatsoever, I am just an innocent friend who just likes your company- wait, you don't want my penis? Well, I never liked you anyway." If your example doesn't fit that specific summary, then your example is irrelevant to that specific complaint. Do you at least acknowledge my point there? For the rest of your examples: Sure, there are asshole gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:19 PM
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I'd imagine it's this part: "I like big boys, itty bitty boys Mississippi boys, inner city boys I like the pretty boys with the bow tie Get your nails did, let it blow dry I like a big beard, I like a clean face I don't discriminate, come and get a taste From the playboys to the gay boys Go and slay, boys, you my fave boys" There are definitely better ways to do body positivity than "I'd fuck any guy", but I get what they're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:15 PM
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I think the reason they find it manosphere is because of men who demand it without any care about what happens to the kid. For example, a man who says the kid isn't his problem because he shouldn't have to pay for a kid he doesn't want, including he doesn't want his taxes to go toward childwelfare funds the single mom now has to use, or he doesn't want to have to pay for the kid himself because he wants to punish the woman for having the right to not have her genitals torn open by childbirth (th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:11 PM
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What if a guy genuinely enjoyed your company so much that he gained feelings for you over time and only realized months down the road? I did that for a guy once. Asked him if he was okay with our friendship turning into a relationship. He said no. We kept being friends and continued as normal. As I said, women are generally complaining about a specific thing: "I am pretending that I have no interest in dating you whatsoever, I am just an innocent friend who just likes your company- wait, you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:51 PM
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but on the relationship level, if you were actually interested, wouldn't you want someone that's willing to pursue you for months and months? That's what the early stages of dating are for. You make your intentions clear early on, you go out together and spend time together, and eventually the dating becomes more serious. The difference is that you make it clear beforehand "I am getting to know you with an end goal of being with you or not" versus "I am pretending that I have no interest in dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:26 PM
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Fun fact, STD new infection rates are quite high among the elderly. Lots of older women (and men) have that exact mindset!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 09:18 PM
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We both have biological clocks. Women's uteri stop working, and male sperm gets worse. No one should be having kids after age 50 or so. A 60-year-old doesn't have the energy to keep up with a 10-year-old. The purpose of menopause is likely to respect that, too, since higher-intelligence social species tend to have a grandmother role to pass down information to younger generations. It would make so much sense for men to get their own version of "man"opause for the same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 09:16 PM
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I think there is a difference between a man making small talk before moving on to the sex talk while chatting with a woman at a bar, versus a man being friends and doing friend stuff with a woman for months and months, then dropping the sex request, then immediately dumping her as a friend when she turns it down. It's the latter that women are complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 05:54 PM
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Going there, hopefully feeling accepted and like I can loosen up in whatever way, maybe meeting some people or having sex or "spectating" and definitely respecting people. Yeah, that is exactly the events I'm describing. What you're looking for is 100% out there, quite common, and FetLife lists them for ya. is a very interesting contrast to society's hateful answer to sexless men and their "stupid, disgusting perversions". That's not entirely society's fault. You know how I said that if you trie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 05:49 PM
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I meant that women are much more welcomed in these places that you suggested looking up on fetlife, munches, sex-clubs, orgies, bdsm clubs, according to like all the things I have read about such places. 3 of the five events tonight in my area explicitly ask for men (they are gang bangs hosted by the woman, so logically, they need men). I'm an introverted man with very little experience who knows nobody in the "scene". It doesn't sound too feasible. Maybe one day I'll give something like this a …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:55 PM
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Did you mean to respond this to me? Your comment doesn't seem to respond to anything in mine. You didn't even answer the question I've asked you twice. Also, looking back at that event list, of the sex events tonight, three of them explicitly ask for single men, since they are gangbangs, with a woman seeking many men. You can literally use Fetlife to search for male-on-female gangbangs. Whatabouts country are you in? I will look for some events in your country.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:27 PM
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They are small, unedrground, heavily protected places that exist in vacuums and are not too accessible for random men. Try FetLife. It's Facebook for Kinksters. According to Fetlife, in my area, which isn't that big of a place and is an hour from the nearest city, there are 7 Hotel Orgies and 5 Munches (social meet-up for kinksters to meet in a non-kinky setting and get to know each other) tonight alone. My local kink club in that city has literally at least 5 events per week, every week. The ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:47 PM
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And there happen to be places where a bunch of people come together and just so happen to nurture just that, collectively. No they don't. As I said, I've been to orgies, swingers events, BDSM spaces, etc. If you walk into a room and start grabbing tits like you'd pick up a penny off the ground, you would immediately get thrown out. Any place that allows that behaviour would quickly go out of business, because people would stop attending it out of fear of those entitled assholes. All I'm saying i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:26 PM
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Yes, even at a bdsm club "nobody is entitled to anything", but let's be real: there is a theme there that everyone is there for, and it's sexual. BDSM is sensual, not inherently sexual. Sex is a type of sensation, but it's not the only sensation. BDSM can involve sex, but doesn't have to. BDSM, orgies, swingers clubs, etc, all still involve a level of consent and respect. If you walk into any of those clubs and just start grabbing tits without asking first, you will get punched and thrown out im…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:01 PM
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Autistic women get approached more, yes, and they are no better at masking (in day-to-day they are, but not as much in dating), yes. But the fact they are no better at masking is why they get approached more. It's not because masking requires confidence. It's because men want to take advantage of autistic women. Autistic women have a very high rate of being abused. Even in the scenario where men approach and women select from those who approach her, and a woman's job is to keep safeguarding hers…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:00 PM
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Not sure if you're trolling. Yes, that's super recent. My or your mother's conception of me could have been marital rape. All or most of the other things are current.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:03 AM

The subreddit's definition of Red Pill doesn't say anything about it being an exclusively western post sexual revolution thing. So I'd like to know what about it you find exclusively western and post sexual revolution, and what about tutsi culture disqualifies them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:02 PM

Why is the redpill only a western response to western post sexual revolution? What about the tutsi culture' "traditional" (whatever that means) disqualifies them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:33 PM

A woman who gets naturally wet for a hot guy but lets say he is an insensitive and disloyal player is also blinded by beauty. There are also three alternatives: He is nice to her in private, she does like the behaviour, and you as an opposing man believe that man is worse than he actually is, because your competitive bias. Whats your take on for example the "Femme Fatale"? It's a trope created by men who want to see women's boobs jiggle in a tight suit. That's pretty much it. She's also generall…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:58 PM

That's why I didn't respond directly to the post. I was responding to the point on whether the Bible is a good example of what you're referring to. Ironically, it is a good example, but in the opposite way you think it is. It's not an example of beauty blinding people and making men do dumb things. It's an example of men doing dumb things and then blaming the nearest pretty woman for his actions. Which is a thing that occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:28 PM

Honest question: Why? Idk much about tutsis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:51 PM

(Not the person you're responding to, but I agree with her) It's a fictional story from the same book that blames all of the evil on the world on a woman making a choice for herself (and her punishment is to be submissive to men), where the majority of female heroes aren't named or their only role is to serve men. The book is written by men, for men, positing men as the default and the sole creators of life, and women who men don't control as evil, purely as a way to encourage men to control wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:48 PM
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I'm happier because I have other hobbies than just centering my life around finding a man. Don't get me wrong, I think about men sometimes, but you find it's a lot less overwhelming when you think about other things too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:13 PM
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(Not so) Fun fact: Seeking empathy and pity are common methods that abusive people, including some famous serial killers, target female victims. That's not saying all men who fumble socially are bad, but that just because a man fumbles socially doesn't mean it's in a woman's best interest to pay him more attention. Your examples seem to acknowledge that as well: every example you gave was of a situation where a woman is being blamed for being unable to protect herself from a threat (froze, unabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:45 PM
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People in various jobs very often experience violence or other mistreatment at their job that makes them hate it. The people in those jobs have legal protections from physical and sexual abuse. Prostituted women are expected to accept it, and the law looks the other way. Which, yes, is often because they are women. Women who have sex are expected to accept sexual and physical abuse. Since we both agree there, that prostituted women are treated differently because they are women, that's about all…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 01:07 PM
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except in the profession of mma. Yes, because sex and violence are both things that change the context of things. Except that prostituted women very frequently are exposed to violence by clients and their boss as well. Clients often feel entitled to violence to the prostituted woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 11:52 AM
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I appreciate that you admit that you're just trolling. I'll mute and leave you to that, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 11:39 PM
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I don't see any sources in your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:44 PM
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Okay, I will respect the misspeak. In that case, the conversation is moot, since what they charge means nothing. Only what they make is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:30 PM
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I don't generally respond to the same person across two different comment threads, so I'm going to mute this comment and focus on the other one, but if you actually read my comment, you will see me state my exact reasoning, in answer to your "idk why"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:19 PM
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Source on the percentage of prostituted women who make regular wages anywhere close to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:17 PM
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Your claim wasn't what they charge, your claim is what they make. So, to back the claim, you have to prove that they actually make that much money. That that much money is physically and regularly provided to them. If I say my rate is 800$ for a night, but no one hires me, then I did not make 800$. I made 0$ If I say my rate is 800$ for a night, but the website gets 20% of my income, my pimp/producer/manager gets 20% my bodyguard gets 20% and the makeup and outfits and beauty treatments I need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:16 PM
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I can’t link websites that show rates, I can’t link websites that show rates I'm asking for a statistical average. I can put any rate I want on to a website, doesn't tell you that I'm actually getting clients or supporting myself. Also doesn't tell you if I am the one who put it there, or if it was put there by a pimp who will make me do it regardless of my consent and is keeping a percentage for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:56 PM
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Source on the percentage of prostituted women who make regular wages anywhere close to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:45 PM
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I have worked in food service, retail, hospitality, counseling, and case management. In every one of those jobs, if my boss, coworkers, or clients/customer grabbed my ass or sexually propositioned me, HR will step in, fire the coworker or boss, call the police and charge the client/customer, and pay me a settlement. Clearly, we know that sexual interaction changes the context of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:14 PM
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Flaw: Ranges from "this thing annoys me" to "This thing may make this person incompatible with me". Example: He's not a fan of or allergic to cats. Nothing wrong with them just not being your thing, but I have cats, so if he can't ignore or is very allergic to mine, we may not be compatible. Red Flag: Ranges from "this thing actively harms his partners" to "This thing may make this person incompatible with anyone who values their safety or sanity". Example: He hates cats and insists they all hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:08 PM
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Flaw: Ranges from "this thing annoys me" to "This thing may make this person incompatible with me". Ex. "Bad with money" ranging from "He can't count very well and needs me to check his maths when he's paying the bills" to "He has some savings, but not very much, and has a hard time planning for the future when it comes to finances." Red Flag: Ranges from "this thing actively harms his partners" to "This thing may make this person incompatible with anyone who values their safety or sanity". Ex. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:02 PM
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Oh yeah, besides the quote being horribly cruel to prostituted women, it's also just straight-up wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:47 PM
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Maybe go ask someone who is complaining about men who do housework and don't get sex? Given that my sentence was "Every married man I know who I've overheard complaining about a dead bedroom was a man who refused to do his own laundry or wash his own dishes.", clearly you're talking to the wrong person. I'll mute and leave this one, so you can focus on going to find the person you intended to talk to. See ya around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:33 PM
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I don't often orgasm with the guy in question, and never have often, but it only recently became maintenance sex. In my situation, he used to have trouble orgasming as well, so we'd just both go until we were tired. Neither of us had reason to focus on ourselves, since neither of us expected to finish, so sex was a bonding thing. Then, he changed up his medications, so now every sex event ends in him orgasming if he manages to stay hard long enough. So, it's no longer about us bonding, it's abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:05 PM
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You didn't make a debate post, you made a Q4W post. And my answer wasn't "I'm fine with people selling sex", it was "They should have a legal right, but there are two paragraphs full of reasons outside of the law that should/reasonably could stop or discourage them." I don't think my partner should get arrested for cheating on me, but that doesn't mean I'm fine with him cheating on me. It just means that not all rules are legal rules. Some are social or moral rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:57 PM
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I'm not entirely against sex work, but I have had maintenance sex (sex that I didn't really want to have just to keep the guy around), and it's hard to explain the feeling if you've never felt it yourself, but the feeling that this thing, which used to be/could be an intimate, bonding thing that you two do together, is now becoming a thing where your body is just being used by someone else, even if you like that someone else, is mentally draining. When someone is physically inside your body, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:40 PM
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Ah, I guess that would explain why you're so passionate about this. You have not found a way to actually tell if you're raping a slave, and you've decided to use a prostituted woman anyway despite there being a decent chance. Unfortunately, that's just a thing you've done, and can't undo, and the judgement of women who pity the potential raped slave is just something you're going to have to live with. There isn't much more we can do with this conversation, so I'm going to mute and focus on the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 04:57 PM

My impression from your comment I first replied to was that you don't really think that's possible It's not that I don't think it's possible, it's that I don't think the majority of Johns care to do it. So what, if... [example] I already answered that: "I would only see it as immoral if he had a high chance of raping a slave. If he does know for a fact that he isn't raping a slave and can confidently confirm that, then definitionally he would not apply in this conversation." It is irrelevant to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 04:28 PM

Recommenting to edit: I apologise, I didn't realise someone else interrupted us and I had been talking to him this whole time instead of you. But yeah, the "Technically, most people don't like their job" caveat is irrelevant. As the context of the rest of the sentences show, by "She likes it", I was summarizing your "it's absolutely NOT a slave and it's a woman who WANTS to make the money" without having to quote that whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:54 PM
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If you cherry-pick those three words out of context, then you'll come to that strawman, yeah. By "she likes it", both me and the guy I was talking to meant "she is seeing this as a consensual job and not an abusive enslavement".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:51 PM

I do not know if there is more of an answer to that than ... Granted, I don't presume you're the dude going out and doing this, so I don't expect you to be an expert, but if a dude actually uses prostituted women, and his answer to those questions was "Idk, try to look on good sites. Trust your gut." then that wouldn't reassure me that he actually cared or was taking this seriously. Imagine saying "Try" when asked "How do you avoid raping someone?" This "see all clients of sex workers as immoral…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:33 PM

I'm sure there legitimately are ones who love what they do,
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:29 PM

Reposting to add a point No, women who are trying to add non-rape options and trying to dilute out the rape options aren't to blame for men not caring whether or not the option he targets is raped. Men are to blame for their own actions. Notice how my last response wasn't just a statement: it was a list of questions. Valid questions. I would be fine with a man who can answer those all and ensure he didn't rape anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:15 PM
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No, women who are trying to add non-rape options and trying to dilute out the rape options aren't to blame for men not caring whether or not the option he targets is raped. Men are to blame for their own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:14 PM
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If I'm too tired from having done all of the housework and doing my own career, then of course I'd be too tired for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:35 PM

The OP question isn't about if a woman being in prostitution is okay, it's about men who seek prostitutes. So, your question wouldn't be "What if she likes it?" It's "How does he know she likes it? How did he confirm that she absolutely did not get trafficked, is not just putting on a front because her pimp is forcing her to smile and act happy?" And it's "Why is he going to fuck this woman while knowing that there is a good chance that she doesn't consent and is only putting on a front? Why is …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:19 PM

The "luxury life" is often a front the pimp puts on. Basically, he showers her with gifts as a way of creating a debt, so she has to work in order to pay off her debt. He then instructs her to act like she earned it herself, that she bought it with money she already earned, and that she is living a happy luxury life. Wouldn't want the clients knowing how miserable she is. Even if she does buy it herself, it's still out of necessity, not just want. No one would pay good money for a girl who looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:26 PM

I don't want a diamond ring, but green energy and green cars will keep the air in our planet from becoming inhospitable and killing all of us. Not to mention that slavery occurs in those industries, but it's not inherent to them: there is nothing stopping companies from just not enslaving mine workers. They just choose to do so for convenience. Human trafficking is inherent to sex work, since the supply of women wanting to be fucked by any dude who comes by is way, way lower than demand, and ref…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:20 PM

Out of curiosity how do feel about the sex-workers who explicitly say they love what they do? I'm sure there legitimately are ones who love what they do, but if she doesn't and admits that she doesn't, she might lose her job. Her pimp might beat her for humiliating her, her clients might drop her. So, I have no reason to take that claim as true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:16 PM

Because there is a much, much higher chance that the prostitute is a sex slave who doesn't want too do this. The casual hookup, ONS, or FWB is more likely to actually be consenting. Wanting someone who is potentially a slave to not be raped is not "punching down" on the person looking to rape her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:13 PM
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Biggest betrayal would be something that directly affects me. He turns out to be kidnapping me and planning on doing something terrible. He turns out to be married and cheating. He stealthed (secretly removed the condom). He is an abuser. Etc. the male equivalent most men would agree is if a woman claimed to be low count, but later into the relationship he finds out she was a huge whore, This being a betrayal, I get, but this being the biggest is pretty sad: you're basically saying that the wors…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 04:56 AM
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Did you mean to respond this to someone else? It doesn't have anything to do with my comment in this dead comment thread. I'll mute and leave you to the conversation you were intending to have. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:22 AM
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brought mainstream awareness to the objectification of women bodies in the media. But yet it's still normalized for men to sexualize women though. We're a social sex species, of course sexualisation isn't going away. Feminists just don't want women to be reduced to nothing but a vagina. And half of the times it's left-leaning or progressive men making these comments in the spaces I'm in. But yet this isn't considered a issue though. Feminists do consider this an issue. There is a feminist quote:…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 11:07 PM
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That is a strawman. I never claimed that. For the last time: Choice to pursue this specific relationship is a choice on if that relationship happens or not. Do you understand at least this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 10:35 PM
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If I offer a candy to you, the act of the candy being picked relies SOLELY on your choice of picking it or not You proved yourself wrong in the fact that your sentence starts with "If I offer a candy to you". It can't be "solely" if the choice does not exist without both parties acting. Cheating only happens if a third person is involved. Well, we can't argue that one, because the level of involvement of a third party is just your personal opinion. I'd be interested in the results of a group pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 10:19 PM
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Two people can be able to make choices but if one have priority of the other he is the chooser between the two. Consent requires both people to make the choice. If one person did not make the choice and the other does, it is nonconsensual. The cheating not happens until someone decides to take his dick. Well that's definitely not true. He's cheating if he's actively trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:54 PM
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Can only be one chooser, if both choose the same thing they're not choosers. A chooser by default have priority over the other. You keep claiming this, and refuse to defend it. If there is only one chooser, then the other person is a slave. If I choose to have sex with you and you don't choose to have sex with me, I am raping you. If I choose to stab your ear and you choose to be stabbed in the ear, you are consensually getting a piercing. Again a strawman, They have a role in partner selection,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:06 PM
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Oh yeah, for clarity, I'm on the side of "Abuse victims didn't just 'choose wrong'. Abusers can be manipulative, abuse can cause a cycle of trauma" etc. I was just granting the hypothetical to argue about the guy's claim that men have no choices. Interesting fact about the cycle of abuse, though, there is a concept referred to as "Calm Before The Storm" that explains why some abuse victims become addicted to being abused, and even become abusers themselves. When you are abused, you exist in two …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:00 PM
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Because the affirmation is "women are the choosers in human mating" Your statement wasn't "Women are the choosers in human mating". It was "Men are not the choosers in human mating". Your statement was that men do not have a choice. Which is objectively false. Presuming your initial point is correct (about men not having any role in partner selection), then women would have the choices "No//Yes (Man A)//Yes (Man B)//Yes (Man C)..." and men would have the choice "No// Yes (To this woman who is cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:54 PM
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Did you mean to respond this to someone else? It's an unfortunate story, but is irrelevant to my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:44 PM
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If your argument about a relationship is not having a relationship you don't have an argument, your argument invalidates the premise. Why? Why is "dating yourself" not a valid option? And the argument is "Men have a choice in dating." Objectively, they have a choice in dating, unless women are enslaving them and forcing them to date against their will. They don't choose between women, but they choose to pursue a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:43 PM
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I just gave that as an example. The point is that if you think women choose abusers, then you also have to think men choose abusers, since even if you argue that men don't pick between women, you can't avoid that men do pick to date that woman in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:11 PM
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I just gave that as an example. The point is that if you think women choose abusers, then you also have to think men choose abusers, since even if you argue that men don't pick between women, you can't avoid that men do pick to date that woman in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:11 PM
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He may not be choosing between two different women, but he is choosing between dating and his own company. I'd imagine his own company is better than being raped or abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:50 PM

Oh yeah, and humans are really bad at getting pregnant. We're a social sex species: we evolved to have sex more for social bonding, with reproduction as more of an afterthought. We have the lowest sex-to-conception rate of most, if not all animals. The importance of female orgasm in conception (it seems to - in multiple studies - be correlated with higher likelihood of pregnancy) Yeah, this is likely due to the muscles contracting and pulling the sperm along. Not to mention that the sperm doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:31 PM

Nah, I don't think it's racist. Each culture has their own rules, and I don't want to force my partner out of their cultural traditions or force myself to get along with something against my values.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:18 PM

I used to work at a long-stay hotel by an airport (it had a kitchenette, and is good if you need to stay somewhere a few weeks/months, like if you're in between homes). We had quite a few situations where it was pretty obvious that trafficking was happening (wife was much younger, clearly didn't speak a single word of English, didn't know how to access basic things like transportation services, didn't have access to local currency, while he went to work during the day, she spent most of her time…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:16 PM

A close friend of mine mentioned he feels a spiritual connection when he does it. I tend to prefer the "Gaze at them while they are paying attention to something else that makes them very happy, and they don't notice you looking at them" or "Pay attention while they are undressing so they know I still find them very attractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:12 PM
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You bond with like minded individuals in real life. At least some of the people on the internet are real people. Not a bunch of hopeless social failures who are largely going to blame most of their woes on whatever their relevant in group is. Well, yeah, you cherrypicked one specific type of post on one specific subreddit. Only an absolute buffoon would think the same online, parasocial venting would somehow work better just because its women doing the venting. Only an absolute buffoon would mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:06 PM
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So, those guys are against any expensive and time consuming hobbies? Or just that one?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:03 PM
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Not OP, but I can give some nuance: For women, dishwashing, laundry, etc daily tasks, definitely take a shorter amount of time now, thanks to dedicated machines. Many women can now opt out of pregnancies and childbirths who could not before. Public schools are free, and provide education and daycare to her kids for most of the morning and some of the afternoon. And No-Fault divorce, meaning she can leave a marriage that has turned bad much easier. One of the reasons for the temperance movement w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:59 PM
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When I read subs like twox, it makes me feel many just use feminism as a mask for their lack of ability to maintain healthy social bonds with other women You said this about a subreddit for women to talk to other women and bond with other women about shared experiences. That's one of the core parts of socialization. Learning about and bonding over each other's weaknesses. You need to learn how to talk about your weakness before you can rely on someone else to help with it. You're right, those wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:54 PM
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Why are men put off by horse girls, anyway? Most horse girls I've met were pretty interesting and fun girls. Horse guys on the other hand, are 50/50 between really nice guys, and really rude "alpha male dominating this horse and proving that he's like a lead stallion" (ironic, since horses are matriarchal).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:44 PM
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Rich women don't have to live with their husband or raise their kids. Her husband can just be eye-candy for paparazzi for all she cares, and her kids have nannies and maids. This is why you see many women without children literally treating their cats and dogs like human children, sleeping with them, arranging doggy daycare and even throwing parties for them. I like my cats because they're not humans. We are a cat colony. Small kids are loud and destructive, and weigh more than 10lbs, so it's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:27 PM
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if the trash or dishes aren’t currently done, she wants me to do them immediately without them becoming her problem This is a big one. I haven't had anyone tell me to clean something since I was a teenager. Sure, I don't always take out my trash right away, but I've lived alone for years and my place is generally tidy. I wish partners saw cleaning our shared home as "This is his house too, he should take care of his house" and not "He is helping her clean the house."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:25 PM
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Personally, I come to debate subreddits to actually debate with other people, not to just decide what the other person secretly meant, only argue that, and coward away from their actual comment, but I respect that you've got your own thing going on. It ain't my thing, though, so I'll step out of this one. See ya around, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:00 PM
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Being a victim of manipulation is worse than being a perpetrator of it? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 11:32 AM
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Logically men are going to pick A Dude, this is a Question For Women thread. Men's opinions and assumptions are literally irrelevant. Including yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:59 AM
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None of this comment has anything to do with the conversation. We're talking about if we'd individually prefer sexless companionship or companionless sex. Reproduction is irrelevant, since you can reproduce without either sex or companionship, and the OP question has nothing to do with my interest in having kids. Since companionlessness literally causes insanity, and sexlessness does not, and I have gone sexless for years but not companionless for years, I prefer the companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:42 AM
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Depends on the week, it ranges from one to four times a week. Get me when I'm PMSing and it may be multiple times a day. I see relationships as us sharing our life, so I would want to feel like my life is easier because my partner is in it. I prefer doing things alone, so I would want to feel like being with my partner is better than being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:32 AM
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The hypothetical does not prevent reproducing. I can hit up a sperm bank, if I felt the need to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:04 PM
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The hypothetical does not prevent me from reproducing. I can hit up a sperm bank, if I felt the need to have kids. Not having kids sucks. Having no socialization wrecks our psyches. There are way more mentally healthy people who choose not to have kids, than mentally healthy people who choose to have absolutely no friends. Not to mention that we are a communal raising species. Not even homeschool moms can handle raising kids without friends to help out (take it from someone who was homeschooled)…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:03 PM
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Separating HSV1 and HSV2 is important when educating about herpes to patients, as laypeople associated herpes with genital herpes, rather than cold sores. The exact opposite: because laypeople erroneously think herpes is just genital herpes and not cold sores and erroneously think it's some horrible, nasty rash all over the genitals, we should connect them. People will understand that the disorder is way less of a deal than they think it is when they understand that symptomatic genital herpes is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:07 PM

Yep, men would rather buy prostituted women than wash a damn dish once in a while. Says a lot about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 08:14 PM
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Both versions can show up on either your mouth or your genitals. HSV2 just more commonly shows up on genitals and vice versa HSV1 and the mouth. But still, there is no point in acting like people with cold sores (oral herpes) don't have herpes. The vast majority of people have herpes, the vast majority of people don't show symptoms. You should take precautions, but herpes really isn't that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 08:13 PM
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The opposite: HPV is a much bigger deal, since it can directly cause cancer, so it's important to get your HPV vaccine. About 70% of the population have at least one of the two variants of HSV. Only about 5% of the population has ever experienced any genital-related symptoms of HSV.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 08:07 PM

Yep. Every married man I know who I've overheard complaining about a dead bedroom was a man who refused to do his own laundry or wash his own dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 07:26 PM
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B sounds much better. Sex is good, but we're a social species. Our strength comes in having friends. And no, I am not asexual or aromantic, and I can get plenty horny. I can just take care of myself fine. I've existed on this planet for over 25 years, and so far, only had a romantic relationship in two of those years, had no sex at all for 20 of them, so I know I can get along just fine without those two things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 07:23 PM
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Women's urethras being in the vulvas, but not the vaginas (and how men not washing their dicks may correlate with female UTIs) In general, the difference between the vulva and the vagina. The benefits of female armpit hair and pubic hair (reducing chaffing for the former, and keeping the vulva clean for the latter), and the normalization of leaving the hair where it is. The entire clitoral structure. It's not just the little nub, it's an entire organ that wraps around the vagina. The prostate (n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 04:58 AM

Eh, it's not your fault. It's a common troll tactic for a man to pretend to be a woman, and then make a post asking his "fellow ladies" to describe their sex life (so he can jerk off to their descriptions), or claim that some thing that misogynists believe is true, like "Hey, we women really are all vapid sluts who ride the cock carousel in our 20s and then hit the wall in our 30s". You didn't explicitly do either of those, but your post did feel a little bit like one of them. People's "troll al…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:18 PM

Says the one who misread the very comment thread to which you're responding. "I'll give OP credit: if it is a guy, then he's got a pretty well-made history. There are a few sus comments, but honestly it is mostly comments and posts that do look like they could have been written by a femcel." The first guy thought you were lying about your sex. I wrote that comment before you started responding to the other comments in this post. I went through your comment history to see if I could find evidence…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:55 PM

Pretty straight forward. Female incel. You noted that you had trouble getting men, and your comment/post history has you whine about that a lot in the general incel fashion, so that would make you an incel. And according to you, you're a woman, so, femcel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:37 PM

I mean, it'd depend on where you are in Florida. Keep away from any events that charge more for men than women (those ones may be more sleazy and see women as things to sell to male patrons, rather than be an equal and welcoming social group). Fetlife is the kink version of Facebook. You can use that to find kink events and clubs in your area.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 03:02 PM

I guess I'm a bit confused by what you're envisioning here. In a kink event/club, generally you will have a "dungeon", which is a place with kink furniture you can interact with or watch other people perform, a bar (they restrict you from getting too drunk), a social hangout place where you explicitly go to chill and chat with people, and often a dance floor as well. It makes it way easier to socialise, since it gives you something to talk about: you could see a girl watching a scene, and chat w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:42 PM

It seems like single men would still struggle at these Why do you say that? And the OP is a woman, so how is that relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:31 PM

Did you mean to respond this to someone else? It doesn't seem to have anything to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:08 PM

I'll give OP credit: if it is a guy, then he's got a pretty well-made history. There are a few sus comments, but honestly it is mostly comments and posts that do look like they could have been written by a femcel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:58 PM

Depends on where you live and who/what you're into. Kink events are a pretty good place to meet people. See if you have any local kink clubhouses, especially ones that require membership, vet their members to bar people on the sex offender registry, are restrictive on alcohol, and have good dungeon monitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:56 PM
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Girls didn't invade the Boy Scouts, because the Boy Scouts stopped being a thing before girls were involved. Men sabotaged the boy scouts by molesting and raping boy scout members. Boys stopped joining boy scouts due to general disinterest, and due to fear of being molested and raped. Boy Scouts collapsed due to lack of membership. The group that previously ran the Boy Scouts tried to rebrand and make a new group that was separated from all of the molestation history. They named this new group "…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:45 PM
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(Recommenting to edit, as I found more data) Apparantly the rebrand had nothing to do with equality. Boyscouts became Scouts of America and starting letting in girls for two reasons: membership had dwindled and they were desperate for new members, and they were rebranding due to all of the sex abuse scandals. So, girls didn't invade boy scouts. They saved boy scouts. The Scouts of America/Boy Scouts would have fallen apart because of abusive male scout leaders, and because boys stopped supportin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:19 PM
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What percentage of boy scout troupes have female members?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:08 PM
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Dating means actually setting up to share my life with this person, so they'd need to have a compatible lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:57 AM
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Well, that's okay, you can see it how you want. Since it's not relevant to my initial question, I'll go ahead and mute this thread, though, so I can focus on people who are actually answering that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:56 AM
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Oh, if that's all you meant, then that's the crux of the issue. I misunderstood and thought you meant something serious and negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:40 AM
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So, by "invasion", you just mean that a thing you liked gradually and naturally evolved into something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:30 AM
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At least you admit that you're just trolling. I'll mute this and see ya around, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:29 AM
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Weird, usually the conservatives complain about liberals not being specific enough. But yeah, if you're going to argue that someone doesn't belong somewhere, then you should have an objective reason. What's unreasonable about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:12 AM
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If you showed up at that gay bath house, you COULD go there You often can't. It's a private space that will turn you away at the door if you're female. The ones at my city do, and they should. That's what a designated space is. It's a privately run thing designed for that group, and have the right to turn that group away, as long as in doing so, they are not oppressing that group. (Like, separating black and white water fountains is oppression, because there is no difference between a white pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:01 AM
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Answering in the other comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:58 AM
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How do you know you weren't just not paying attention to the girls? Not to mention that Reddit is an anonymous forum by definition. You had no way of knowing the number of girls there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:52 AM
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why? Because it’s not for him. For literally no reason, since there is nothing stopping him from enjoying that book or going to that book club. I used to be a pegasister, and the bronies got along just fine in the "for girls" fanbase, because they understood that just because the show is about girls doesn't mean guys can't like it. And we didn't think anything about them as long as they were not being assholes. Men don’t make “spaces”, we just do things and show up. Sure they do. My local librar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:51 AM
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Where are you getting any of these numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:45 AM
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nowhere on the book does it say it’s for women but it is. Your claim wasn't that it was marketed to men or men happen to enjoy it. You called it a male "space". A book isn't a "space", it's just a book. Anyone can like the book, even if some people happen to like it more than others. People don’t make things and proclaim it’s for a certain demographic, People literally do that. That's what a designated "space" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:31 AM
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Nah, that's fine, I'd just like you to answer my initial question. You keep saying it's a fact without actually explaining how and why you think it's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:00 AM
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How was it only made for men? And what do you mean by "nerdy" in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:34 PM
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You didn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:07 PM
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PPD is a debate subreddit. People come here for the express purpose of having their opinions questioned and debated. I am here because I'm a bored office-worker who likes responding to debate prompts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:38 PM
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Why is Reddit a "male space"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:37 PM
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Tbf, that one is a common issue in general when you're friends with someone who is in a relationship. Women have the same issue with a girl bringing her boyfriend along to Girls' Night and totally killing the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:06 PM
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lately there seems to be a massive influx of a certain type of woman invading male spaces and policing what they can and cant say Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:40 PM
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Two reasons: Among women: Dick size directly affects pleasure in sex in a way that almost nothing compares. If the dick isn't long enough, it physically will not reach the good spots. A woman who wants a small penis isn't a woman who actually enjoys the small penis directly (as in, the penis physically isn't stimulating pleasure spots). She likely enjoys the aesthetic or enjoys it indirectly (such as enjoying playing with it, like men like playing at or looking at breasts). In porn: Big dicks ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:38 PM
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This, especially when I often hear men talk about their wives being the "ball and chain" or calling their day before marriage "Last day of freedom". There is nothing wrong in theory with a woman proposing, but plenty of societies are so gross about women having any say in these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:35 PM

The judicial system will more often than not give women their fair share of finances if they divorce and maybe even too much. What is the stats on alimony and "fair share", that you're going off of? There’s even laws that make it so that if a woman cheats and has a child but the baby daddy disappears, the child will legally be put under the husband’s name Oh? What law is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:37 PM
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I agree except with the finances part. The judicial system will more often than not give women their fair share of finances if they divorce and maybe even too much. So they have that safety net except they didn’t work for it like the man did. We're talking about the past with this one, where it was legal to require a woman to have a husband or father attached to her bank account, and beyond where it was legal to just not sell a home to a woman. There’s even laws that make it so that if a woman c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:36 PM

I’m shocked alot of women would want it considering it was a dark time in history for women. I'm also shocked by the amount of women who trust their husbands enough for her to want no control over her own finances. It's common in feminist circles to discuss how to educate housewives on the dangers they are getting themselves into. That tends to be the crux of the issue, though: Women who want to be housewives with no income to her name are usually women from heavily patriarchal religions, with n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 10:57 PM

Yeah, and I said in my comment "Traditional gender roles definitely existed before the Industrial revolution, since women often couldn't own property, her own money, or her own children until recently. Men weren't seen as sole "providers", yeah, but they were seen as the "owner" of the woman, or her "master"." Only reason she can be provided for and not do anything is because it's no longer legal to beat her or throw her out penniless and keep her kids hostage for it. It's not that feminists wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 10:43 PM

This doesn’t apply to couples where both partners work It's a bit confusing for you to call that Traditionalism, when throughout most of history, both partners worked. Although, only the man owned the finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 10:25 PM
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I think people who hear this advice take it a little too seriously. It just means that you should enjoy yourself first, focus on romance second. It's easier to be confidant and romantic when you are already having a good time. Go to the pottery class because you actually like pottery. Actually enjoy the pottery. Actually care about what you make. Ask a fellow classmate out every now and then, that's fine. What is not fine is just sitting in that class, staring at all of the women, putting no eff…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:15 PM

His minimum height requirement. Meaning, if he's shorter, he's likely to be a dick about his height. If he's not a dick about his height, then I don't have as much reason to care about his height. I've only ever met a handful of men shorter than me (under 5'5" is in the 8th percentile where I live), and all of them were dicks about their height. Tbf, I'm Bi, and plenty of women are shorter than me. When I'm already used to being into people shorter than me, it's not as hard to be into shorter me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:26 PM
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It's rather ironic that the men who say "Men built society" then throw a fit about being blamed for rapists and thugs. He didn't rape anyone, but he also didn't provide anything useful to society. You can't "Not all men" only when it suits you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:23 PM

I wouldn't even notice unless he was insanely tall. Like, if he put 5'10 and he's 6'1, I'd just assume he's 5'10. I'm 5'5". It's hard to tell how tall someone is when you're shorter than them and looking up. Not like I could compare the top of his head to a 5'10 guy's if I can't see the top of either of their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:15 PM

If I want to leave a conversation and the person won't let up, I will usually just mute the conversation, not block. But if they start following me to other comment threads, the block hammer comes out. I will also block people who spam posts in a sub (like this one) that are always really stupid posts or they are terrible at conversing, so I don't have to see their posts or be tempted to join in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:13 PM

Three different carb levels, no tea, and not even a fruit option besides the OJ and Blueberries in the pancakes -_- OJ is just concentrate, not even real fruit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:11 PM
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Why do you think that demand would necessarily outpace supply? A few reasons: Because virtually all men and pubescent boys want some access to sex work. Right now, the vast majority of men watch porn, and that's in a society where prostitution is frowned upon or illegal. If prostitution were promoted, it is easy to presume that a similar number of men as those who currently watch porn will want those prostitutes. There is no way for supply to meet demand unless virtually all women and girl child…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 12:58 PM
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A lot of women do demand traditionalism, sure. A lot of women refuse to cook or clean. But the intersection of these two opinions is, while not tiny, much smaller than either category. The other thing is, though, that things these women tend to demand of men are things that happen every once in a while. Paying on dates, for example, when they only go on dates once a month, and once they are in a committed relationship, it will likely reduce to a few times a year if ever. Meanwhile, she is expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 12:41 PM
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Look up the horrors around "Comfort Women". Women don't oppose it because it "doesn't benefit them". Women oppose it because it directly leads to state-sponsored sexual slavery and violent abuse of women and girl children. The problem is that there will never be enough supply for the demand. While I don't think prostitution should be illegal, making a big push for promoting it will inevitably lead to way more demand than supply, which leads to violent entitlement to women's bodies, which leads t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 12:35 PM
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You have it backwards. Attractive, then crush. By "Crush" I mean that I got to know enough about a person that I perceive us as being personally compatible enough to actually date, but am not currently dating that person due to a reason outside of my control (ex. him not agreeing with that assessment from his perspective and having rejected me, him not being available, etc.) I find both guys attractive, but I have not experienced enough mutual compatibility with the second guy for a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:46 PM
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How come both you and your friend "joke" that you find the first guy attractive but not the second? Because that friend has never met the second guy. The first guy is a mutual friend. I didn't say "find attractive", I said "have a crush". My friend would likely find the second guy attractive too if they ever met. I prefer the first guy for the reason I just stated: The first guy is more outgoing and interesting. When you chat with him, he has things to talk about: adventures he's gone on, books …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:24 PM
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Yeah, the biggest difference in results I've seen his is lifestyle. I know two pretty attractive guys who look very similar, both pretty shy, but one is always on diving trips and going to conventions and events, etc, and the other doesn't do any of that. The first one usually has a woman or two pining after him at all times, and the second doesn't. Both a friend and I occasionally joke about how we both have a crush on the first guy. I know less attractive guys who get more attention than some …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:49 PM
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I would be upset that he lied. If he's willing to directly lie about something because he thinks it will raise his chances of dating me, then that makes me wonder what else he's lied about for the same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:04 PM
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Notice how the sentence you omitted was the actual question? "Do you have a source about this being a common occurrence?" So, that would be a no, you don't have the answer and are just trolling. I appreciate the heads up, then, so I'll head out of this one. See ya around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 04:04 PM
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You must be bad at statistics then. The irony. At this point, I'm pretty sure you're just trolling, though. Either bring actual stats, or that's pretty much it for this conversation, since you have no answer to my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:31 PM
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It means nothing statistically, especially since I don't know how many pages you'd have to sift through to happen into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:11 PM
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So, three?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:03 PM
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The only post in the search results that is about this topic is a man complaining about women who say it. I don't see any results that is just a woman saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:46 AM
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That article is basically just making the same claim you are with the same amount of evidence, so it's not a source. When I looked up "Not Enough Good Men", I found like one or two posts from women, and a bunch of posts from men. I don't see evidence that it's a commonly expressed statement, just that men claim it's a commonly expressed statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:44 AM
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If it's "virtually every", then I'd imagine you can share enough for a relevant statistic? Likewise if you think they are the loudest, then there should be loads of samples available.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 04:30 AM
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I see a lot of posts on social media of women that cannot seem to find a good man I see people make this claim, but I have literally never seen a woman say this. Do you have a source about this being a common occurrence?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:47 AM
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Judging how many posts this guy has made to this sub, I think like half of the recent ones are just him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:08 PM
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Can you reword your point here? Your post doesn't really clarify how it results in your title. I've noticed that most of the comments also seem confused or aren't addressing your point directly, so I seem to be not alone in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:12 PM
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I'm not replying directly to the OP, so I'm not required to be addressing the argument. I'm just responding to this other guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 05:12 PM
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The overall idea isn't terrible, but there are too many things you need to add to avoid risks: There should be a dating period, and the man and woman should both be able to opt out at any time. There should be NO shame in rejecting the arrangement. Even in places where you are allowed to reject, there is often a heavy shame element involved. Divorce should absolutely be allowed, and there should be no shame in it (I mean, this should be true in any marriage situation, but especially arrangements…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:33 PM

Holy shit, this dude's history is insane. For the past month, he has non-stop thought and talked about that girl, with like 90% his posts and comments directly about or alluding to that one experience with her, or otherwise just being jealous about women. Probably goes back more than a month, but I'm going to stop scrolling -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:53 PM
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That isn't the claim you made and were asked to prove. We're not talking about single parent households, we are talking about families that have a full, large family support system, and happen to be lacking an older male figure. (Ignoring the fact, by the way, that I never said kids shouldn't have any male role model: I very clearly stated that most of the animals do have a male role model. Cetaceans and elephants, I specifically said do have one, just not in early years. Great Apes have them in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:31 AM
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Not to mention that I say "Bless you" when people sneeze, but I don't literally believe people's spirits leave their body and have to be blessed back in after a sneeze. Saying "Bless you" is just considered polite. Sometimes, we just say things by tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:44 AM
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How do you think guys end up in gangs? If they don't have a father figure at home, they will find a father figure out on the streets and be introduced to a life of crime, drugs and prison. Where is your source that every man who doesn't have a father figure at home will inevitably end up in crime, drugs, and prison? And prove that whatever stats you find is only based on him having no father figure (so, growing up in poverty, which would be resolved in my scenario, plays absolutely no role in an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:40 AM
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Orcas also defecate and nurse their young, does that mean we have magically stopped doing those two things? Nature isn't the only basis for an argument, but it also can't be the only stop for it. I gave several points of my argument. I am not arguing "animals do it so we must do it", I am arguing several different angles and points, with one of them being "Every independently evolved high intelligence, high-social mammal does it. That is not a coincidence. There is likely a benefit for doing it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:38 AM
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And all of those women end up raising a future gangbanger because the kid has no positive male role models in his life. More specifically, in those animals in question, the young male usually joins a bachelor group when he reaches young adulthood, which is where he gets his positive male role models. In fact, we find that when poachers kill older bull elephants, the young males literally become gangbangers who rape rhinos. That behaviour is seriously reduced by having the bulls around. Cancel al…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:09 AM
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What else is not found among animals is ... generational knowledge. Generational knowledge is prominent among the same species to which I was referring, such as great apes, orcas, dolphins, and elephants. It tends to go hand-in-hand with "Long-lived social mammal", and is the basis of the social safety nets I mentioned. My entire third paragraph was about that fact. Why would you make an argument to me without even reading the comment to which you're responding?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:05 AM
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Conflicts are a natural part of understanding, but changing as we grow is also natural. How many friends that you had 10 years ago do you still have? How many of the interests and values you had 10 years ago do you still hold to the exact same degree? We change, and sometimes, two people just change in ways incompatible. Lifelong monogamy is pretty much non-existent among mammals that live more than 20 years. In every other long-lived mammal, there are instead support groups, so if a female is r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:06 AM
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This. If she says she has a boyfriend, but really doesn't, it's because she knows you won't take "no" for an answer unless you think the "no" comes from a man. If she blocks you, she is physically preventing you from reaching out to her, so how the hell could that be "playing hard to get"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 11:51 PM
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Why do women break off FWB relationships when they catch feelings, even if they are genuinely good friends and have quality sex? I haven't done that, so I wouldn't know. The guy I mentioned in my first comment was an occasional FWB at first. I'm still friends with plenty of FWBs, including ones with whom I've caught feelings but just wasn't compatible with. I guess that's what confuses me. These guys are saying that this bad thing is inevitable, but the exact opposite keeps happening to me. Mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:25 PM
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Why are you trying to attract people in the beginner class, then? Take the beginner class to focus on learning, then once you've learned, go to dance events and more advanced classes now that you're competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 03:09 PM
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Surgery, Tooth Extraction, Carpenter: Implies that a woman knows nothing about her own interests. To imply that she may not know every perspective is fine, but this one fails because it implies she is completely clueless. Food Critic: Probably the best one, since it removes the issue from the other ones and allows the woman knowledge about herself. Food critics are usually somewhat versed in food-preparation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:04 PM
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Depends on what you mean by "display sex appeal". Do I, as someone who finds women attractive, find attraction to some outfits I see women wear? Sure. Do I think that there is any kind of outfit a woman could wear that communicates "I consent to being physically touched, commented on, or stared at in a very obnoxious way"? No. Do I find some outfits inappropriate for some settings? When the setting has a dress code, then yes. Also, outfits that expose genital fluids to public seating areas are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:42 PM
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Honestly, this interpretation of those terms makes way more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 04:24 PM
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I have literally never heard a woman use those terms. But agreeing with another commentor, if a woman does refer to "theme"-dick, it means the guy in general, not just the penis size.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:11 PM
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It's not just about a man leaving, it's about him specifically leaving the moment he is told there is no sex. You're right, it could be another reason, but the presumption isn't too unfounded. (And I agree that the conversation should be held earlier. I didn't go into that because I'd have a shower of men complaining that they can't for various reasons).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:04 PM
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Okay, then. See ya around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:19 PM
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You're not the other guy, so you can't tell me what he was intending on saying. And it's moot anyway, since I already continued the conversation with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:28 PM
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Well yeah, you interrupted a conversation I was having with someone else to make up a malicious claim/incorrect assumption against me. So, I responded to the claim/assumption. Now you're trying to change the subject from your initial assumption instead of acknowledging your error.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:18 PM
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It is said every time this topic comes up. A lot of things are said when the topic comes up. If he wants me to have something to respond to, he needed, to actually state the point, not just allude to it. Which he ended up doing, and then we continued the conversation. You can't have a debate by just saying "You know my opinion on XYZ" without giving said opinion first.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:43 AM
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He didn't tell me what men's feelings were. My point there was that he needed to actually give the explanation, not just say "Men already explained".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:17 AM
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I guess I don't get why the "Happy for you" kind of mentality is uncommon in men's relationships with women. I don't generally break off a friendship because I'm jealous my friend has something I want or enjoys other things with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:43 AM
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Even beginner’s classes women are well ahead of the curve while most dudes show up knowing zero. I think you're going to the wrong beginner's class. Or she is. Either way, survivorship bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:52 AM
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"Okay, and what explanation is that" would have been a fine response, instead of the snarky, condescending junk you just typed. Says the one who could have just given the explanation in the first place, instead of the snarky, condescending junk you typed. Anyway, the reason is most typically because it's hard for a lot of people to stay platonic friends with someone they have romantic feelings for. The first thing I said in my comment was about a man who I have romantic feelings for and am still…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:49 AM
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Are you trying to date the instructor? If you're in a beginner class, then no one should be teaching you to move except the instructor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:44 AM
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Depends on what you mean by "Grow on you". Like, yeah, as you get to know a person, the relationship becomes easier, since you actually know what they like and they know what you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:26 AM
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Might want to try a beginner class.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:25 AM
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Your comment doesn't add anything to the conversation. If you want to give me something to respond to, you'd have to argue the explanation. I have no clue what you're alluding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:24 AM
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It's not a contradiction. I have a male friend that, early in the friendship, I asked if down the line, he would potentially be open to a relationship. He said no. We stayed friends. Simple as. Women aren't upset that their friends have the interest in general, they are upset when the male "friend" immediately stops being her friend the moment the relationship door closes. It's a difference between "Date someone you've gotten to know" and "The 'friendship' only exists for you to get in my pants.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:58 AM

Feminists will call me an inc-l for this but it’s true. Not sure why you had to throw in a "Feminists are meanies!" jab in there, when it wasn't relevant to the rest of the post. Can't you make your point without the imaginary bad guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:14 PM
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I sometimes hear about women who support their deadbeat boyfriend or husband who doesn’t work, The problem is in the question: You hear about them. Someone who is satisfied with their life is generally not complaining about it. It's the Survivorship Bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:13 PM
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I asked you first.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:11 PM
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I think men and women see their invisible labour differently. When a man does a chore, he does that chore. So, the laundry needs to be done, he sits down and does the laundry. The kids need to be watched, so he sits down and watches the kids. Dinner needs to be made, so he sits down and makes dinner. He spends 30 minutes for the first, 30 minutes for the second, 30 minutes for the third. 1.5 hrs total. When a woman does those same tasks, she tends to the dinner while picking up clothes to put in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:02 PM
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That's a lot of excuses and not a lot of source.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:28 AM
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Literally the first step in questioning my bias involves looking at the objective fact that proves my bias wrong. If your only response is "Nuh-uh", then how do I know that what you're saying isn't your bias? That's what data is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:58 AM
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Which is sad, because we're a social species. Literally one of the first signs of our higher sapience was bones of a human who had survived decades after a debilitating leg injury, meaning other humans took care of him. The first thing we as humans learn to do is cry: asking others for help. Helping each other is what makes us human.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 11:51 PM
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You are remarkably good at proving my point. You had the opportunity to defend other men, and instead you trolled. Proving my point that men are the biggest hurdle to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 07:03 PM
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Source for that statistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 06:40 PM
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You have to be "above average" in the hobby based on some objective metric that is observable by others. Which a lot of hobbies don't have, especially depending on what specifically he is getting out of it. There is no such burden on women. If your definition of "contextual alpha" means they have to stand out, then there is the same burden on women, because if he doesn't physically see her in a crowd, then he can't pursue her. She can do it for fun. She can suck. She can be good. If he isn't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 06:03 PM
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You are mixing up the rarity of the hobby with the degree of competence in the hobby itself to assessing the meaning of "average". I'm not mixing up anything, you're not defining your words. Hence my previous complaint that the word "average" doesn't work here. Maybe "stereotypical". The concept of mathematical average is pointless in a conversation about things that are not trackable by numbers. Astrology isn't really a competitive sport, although you could define a metric for performance based…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:47 PM
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Depends on how many areas of life you're including, on the definition of average, and on the actual distribution of competence in each such area. I mean, yeah, if you cherry-pick every word and context to mean only the absolute most convenient thing for your argument. But at that point, it's not much of a conversation. On the other hand, I would say I know plenty of women who are average in everyway. I know a woman who does Uber delivery, is into astrology and doesn't have any other hobbies. She…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:31 PM
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A man who is simply average in ALL areas of his life is not a contextual alpha, and will not succeed with women. It's statistically impossible to be average in all areas of your life. I never mentioned income. You mentioned the job, that's why I added that as an example. I wasn't basing my argument around the income specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:18 PM
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A contextual alpha is someone who is dominant and successful either in a job, hobby or some other environment that is of non-trivial value to society. So, he needs to be a functional, interesting, independent adult? That doesn't seem too unreasonable. Women need to have the same requirements, just geared toward childcare and homecare instead of an income, or if she is making an income, then she usually needs to have those same requirements toward childcare and homecare and gaining and income. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:53 PM
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The biggest hurdle for empathy to men is other men. Ted Bundy faked injuries and weakness to attract his victims. Pretending to need help is a common kidnapping tactic. Men deserve to be complimented, but if I compliment that man on the street, there is a non-zero chance that he will take that as a flirt, then hit on me, then get mad at me for "leading him on". So, I keep my mouth shut and my head down. Men can absolutely be victims of abuse by women... but a common tactic of some male abusers i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:47 PM
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Basically, the "Wait till marriage" crowd gets the 100% or 0% option. You don't have to worry about a person being interested in intimacy without romance, but if the intimacy turns out to not work out, that will crush the romance and you will have a much harder time breaking off the relationship. "Dead bedrooms" or disconnected sexual feelings are notorious for killing romance and marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:34 PM
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surely must affect how you view your value on the relationship market No, because I don't see relationships as a market, I see them as me choosing to share my life with another person. I wouldn't want to share my life with someone who is not a match for my specific lifestyle and whose lifestyle requires me stepping way too far out of my bounds to match, so I wouldn't feel morally bad about someone who feels the same. At the very most, I may reconsider where I am finding partners. As in, "I know …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:31 PM
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But what I think they don't seem to realize is that what religion, ideology or movement you're apart of can only survive if the people propagating said religion, ideology or movement have children and pass those teachings down to them and so on and so forth. The ideology in question is "Women are human beings and shouldn't be treated like children, pets, or property." As long as women have existed (which is longer than men have existed, technically), women have understood that concept. Now, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:17 PM
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Well, yeah, a disappointment is going to sting inherently, and of course it happens. It's just that someone shouldn't take it consciously as a moral failing. There are lots of women who do take it as a moral failing or feel it on their self-worth. The women in this sub are often women who are feminists, so they likely have better self-esteem and have learned that you shouldn't take it as a moral failing, but the average woman may not have considered that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:04 PM
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There are some realistic-ass video games out there. But even then, it's still both fantasy, and in both cases, you know that you're not actually committing the crime, but you're getting away with getting in the headspace as if you are and thinking like the type of person who is doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:27 PM
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I've got other shit to do, so I guess I just get back to my other things. I might think about the past experience with him now and then, and if I liked him a lot, then I might daydream about how that relationship could have been, but that's the very most I'd do. How do you mentally cope with being good enough for sex/fun but not for a relationship/commitment? I don't see it as "good enough", I see it as "different". People want different things from a partner than they do from a friend or FWB. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:24 PM
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Do murderers pretend to consensually murder others to act out their fantasy of murder but with consent?? You realise how many violent video games there are? People have lots of opportunities to act out violent actions, and not only are we all fine with it, but anyone who suggests it may be correlated with aggressive behaviour or a desire to commit aggression is immediately shut down by people who insist it isn't. Why does the addition of sex make a difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:21 PM
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Never had at least one first date? I agree with most people here that it would be mid 20s. It wouldn't be bad, just either unusual or really bad luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 01:16 AM
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This and the reverse have both happened to me on numerous occasions, with both male and female friends. We're either still friends, or we stopped being friends for unrelated reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 01:14 AM
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Depends on the woman. My paternal grandmother grew up the middle of like 8 kids on a farm, so when the city-boy promised her a new, exciting life, she took him up on that. She was never good at socializing with non-family or getting out of the house, and her life is objectively worse now that he's dead and not taking her to events and vacations every few weeks. After he died, she went from visiting a new country every few months, to spending weeks at a time without leaving her house once, outsid…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:51 PM
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It literally says, on the very first line: The Office for National Statistics has published its analysis of the divorce rates in 2018 But it's still suspicious that it throws out the name without providing the link or the code for the study. As if they aren't expecting people to actually look at where they got their information. Not being married is consistently coupled with poorer relationship outcomes. That depends on what you mean by "poor relationship outcomes". Do you mean a breakup? That's…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 01:08 AM
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And a lot of people aren't using those. Most of the bi guys I know have the HPV vaccine, a few are on prep, and I know like one on doxypep. And I live in an area where that sort of thing is widely available and sex-ed is widely accessible, way moreso than the place I was living in before my current area.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:00 AM
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That article doesn't cite its source. Not being married doesn't mean the relationship is bad. They could just not feel like getting married. It's normal for Bi people to prefer one sex over the other or experience their attraction to each sex differently, so it wouldn't be weird for a Bi Person to not realise they are bi, get married monogamously, and then live the rest of their life being bi but never identifying with the sexuality. LGBTQ people have some of the worst health, wellbeing and econ…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 11:57 PM
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As someone who regularly hangs out with bisexual men, and who personally is fine with dating them, I think those women just have the fear of STIs, honestly. Bisexual/gay men are weirdly uncaring about risks. At least when a woman is promiscuous, she may fear pregnancy enough to want to use condoms (not every woman, but probably more than not), but I know bi men who gave me weird looks when I expected him to put on a condom for oral/anal. So many of them literally think of condoms as just the "pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 11:52 PM
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Yea well, my overall point here I guess is that I find it unfair to push this seemingly delicate balance mainly on men. Fair, but that's just kinda what happens when men historically decided to shoulder the role that was never really supposed to be their's. It will take a while to fix the damage that was done by thousands of years of oppression. Historically, a ton of men died in wars. And after-effects of our old past attitudes still linger, but beyond a certain point it's like... come on. If w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:28 PM
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Okay but if this is the experience of a substantial amount of women living in civilization Keep in mind that this is a civilization that, for thousands of years, heavily oppressed women from even being allowed to select their partner based on actual attraction. If she was even allowed to have a say in the selection, she was selecting because she wasn't allowed to have a home without a husband. In almost every other species, mate selection is done by females, but humans forced it to be done by ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:51 PM
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Pitting women against each other is incredibly common. That's the Wife/Whore dichotomy, the "Wife Vs Mother-In-Law" emotional incest trope, or the "Don't talk about feminism in the West while women in the East are suffering/Don't talk about feminism in the East unless you'd like to suffer like women in the West." If the fact that plenty of women express rarely ever even feeling attraction to men in actual real life It's the difference between overall desire and specific desire to a specific pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:45 PM
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Men know what consent is when it comes to gay men trying to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:37 PM
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Uncivility is a reportable offense on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:57 PM
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Thereby justifying my point that you should focus on I can focus on whatever I want to focus on. If you don't have a response to my post, then "No, you should be arguing about XYZ instead!" is pointless. Not to mention that telling me what to say so you can argue against the topic you're better at arguing is basically trying to build a strawman. It’s overall a weak argument, although your points about bias in the medical industry are very valid, since they show real systemic imbalances. Those bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:51 PM
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You didn't actually address my points. You just added on to your previous comment regardless of my response to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:25 PM
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A woman’s ability to find her matrilineal history has no bearing on whether she can get a job. So? Why can't a woman be upset that her family is lost? Why do you have to make it about a different issue? Besides that, though, culture affects material. Who we are before we are anything is our culture. If we perceive ourselves as never being allowed to own our selves or our own names, always being a part of our father or husband, or were raised by women who did even though we personally rebel again…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:59 PM
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I'll keep an eye out for your actual response, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:05 PM
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Did you mean to respond this to me? It has no relation to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:35 PM
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women impose on other women (like makeup) That's another good point: Women lash out at other women to gain favour for men. When a man lashes out at other men to gain favour for women, he is brushed off as a white-knight, and his lashing is usually quite harmless to other men in the long-run (or, if it does harm other men, people blame "the evil feminists" and not the man himself, even if the feminists/women didn't even condone that man's actions). Yet, when a woman lashes out at other women, she…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:30 PM
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If a woman-beater isn't in a relationship, how do you know he's a woman-beater? How do you know so many woman-beaters? A bit of Survivorship bias going on here. being from a bumfuck town myself That skews your perspective quite a bit. If the women grew up there, they will be groomed into thinking that's the best they can get/"Might as well be with the danger who will protect me from the danger I don't see". On that note, abusive behaviour literally becomes an addiction. Abuse occurs in two steps…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:18 PM
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Beyond the physical advantage of strength, they also have the social advantage of being considered the default: Medicine, PPO, safety procedures, etc, are made for men. Medicines are rejected if they don't work for men, even if they could work for women. The average male height and weight is used for safety limits. Male animal test subjects and male tissue is used in research. The standard male body (ex. body hair, normal face) is seen as default, but a woman who goes without makeup or shaving o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:59 PM
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Notice anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:00 PM
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Double standards don't apply to things that are objectively different. Like, providing a bag of hay to a horse, but giving a meat-based food to a cat are not double standards. They need different food.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:43 PM
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Did you just compare having a say in the laws and leadership of your government, to being able to insert your body into someone else's body? Women are called cars/gas mileage, candy that gets ruined, locks, etc. Calling women "a piece of paper with check bubbles on it" is a new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:29 PM
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I don't generally care about what people who aren't me do in their bed, as long as everyone consents. "You're not entitled to sex" doesn't mean you should be banned from having it with a consenting party. It just means that you should not build yourself up on the idea that sex is the only way to feel meaningful. The problem with hookup culture is that men's part in sex can and has disabled or killed people via causing pregnancy, or the fact that being the penetrator makes you more likely to spre…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:49 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:35 PM
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The response works regardless of whether or not she actually has one, so it's used regardless of whether or not she actually has one. So just because she says it doesn't mean you should feel humiliated or just assume she's lying, since there is at least a decent chance that she does have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:15 PM
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I made three bullet points. Are you going to respond to/acknowledge the second and third?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:00 PM
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Dude, I did engage with the post. The grammar thing was just one of my three points, and I did acknowledge that it wasn't something on which I usually comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:33 PM
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See, that would be a much better question, though. OP could make a post about why/if there are gender differences in how each sex approaches weddings in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:01 PM
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Your girlfriend’s not single, but her friends probably are. This. Just because I'm not playing the game doesn't mean I can't wingwoman my girl, or be her designated driver/drink-watcher.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:59 PM
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That's not PPD's problem or an excuse to post inappropriate questions here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:57 PM
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1: I don't usually pick on this, but your grammar is atrocious regarding run-on sentences. Your post is very hard to read. 2: Your title: "Rejection is Humiliating to Men" Your post: "Being rejected on it’s own is not bad[.] What’s horrific is the humiliation from women who find the idea of a man she doesn’t find that attractive repulsive so she goes out of her way to publicly humiliate him " "rejection is humiliating due to how many rejections you have to go through" Your post disagrees with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:55 PM
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It's a way to meet people and quickly get to know things about our sexual compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:49 PM
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This subreddit is for Purple Pill debating, not just "Ask Women". The Question For Women flair should be used for questions actually related to the Pills or the theories around them. Ask this in a wedding sub, AskWomen, or AskReddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:48 PM
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Because those women's gestation and nursing of those men are why those men exist. A little respect doesn't seem that farfetched. Because if you decide that it's okay to oppress some people, eventually that is going to bite you in some way. Because empathy and social connections are some of the main things that put us above the other animals. Humans aren't the fastest or the strongest. We are smart, and we are great at working together. Being a human who chooses to be shit at working with 50% of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 10:06 PM
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How many dates do you think you need to know a person. You could go your whole life without knowing a person. They can hide stuff, and of course, they can change, so it's impossible to know everything about them at any given time. Presuming he's not a very manipulative and he is honestly trying to be an honest person, I'd imagine it would take me: A few months to get the general information about him. A year or two to get his more in-depth information. A year or two of actually living with him t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 05:34 PM
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Yeah, we're talking about rates, so generalizing is appropriate when creating hypothesis about why the rates are as they are. Your personal experience is irrelevant to rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:31 PM
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men are never gonna view it that way since being ejected back into the terrible dating market can't really come off as anything but a failure. That's just a weird way of looking at it. I don't think a car was a waste of money just because I won't be driving it in 20 years. I don't think my first apartment was a shitty apartment just because I happened to have moved to one closer to my current job. I don't think any of my previous jobs were failures just because I happen not to be working at them…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 02:27 AM
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Responding in the other comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 08:46 PM
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I presume the reason you needed to spread that into two comments was because of a word limit. That word limit is rather useful to stop Gish Gallops. Basically, the more you throw at your argument, the less you actually care about the argument. It's about throwing as much as possible to see what sticks, rather than actually reviewing your own sources and putting interest in your actual case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 08:46 PM
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It makes the stat about women initiating more divorces even weirder. Yeah, it's rather interesting. Women get more judgement for divorces, but women also initiate divorces more. If that judgement didn't exist at all, I bet you that lifetime monogamy would be basically uncommon as polycule relationships currently are. It would be so uncommon that it would be seen as weird and fringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 05:21 PM
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Part of that is internalized misogyny. Especially since many (male-led) religions push the rhetoric of "If he beats/cheats on/leaves you, it's because you are a failure as a wife" and "women exist for the purpose of marrying a man and mothering children". If you're groomed since birth to see a marriage ending as your moral/personal failing as a woman, then it makes sense that you would have negative beliefs about ending relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:49 PM
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so you think feminism is supposed to change people's personal opinions on things like promiscuity? Historically, it has. Christianity likely exists because a teenage girl made up a story to avoid the death sentence of having sex out of wedlock. Nowadays, most civilised parents think of their daughter having sex out of wedlock is a mild inconvenience at most. Places with higher feminism tend to have less people arguing why a sexual woman should be murdered or have her clitoris cut off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:40 PM
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I already answered that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:41 PM
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with why even get to the point of a relationship until you fully know them? It's impossible to fully know someone, because we change over time, and those changes can be impossible to predict. For example, when my parents married, both were liberal, atheist, and egalitarian. One pregnancy-induced stress hallucination and a few uses of a daycare center that turned out to be Baptist-run later, and my mother is a conservative, Baptist, and mostly anti-feminist, homophobe, etc. My dad is still a libe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:35 PM
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Society doesn't just decide what our instinct is. It's not that I want short relationships in a society that hates them, it's that what happens to me relationship-wise is going to happen, and the healthiest option is for me to accept which discomforts are my fault (forcing on a relationship that has ended) and which discomforts are other people's fault (society's treatment of me for ending the relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:25 PM
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Yeah, we exist in a society that shames, and previously banned, relationships ending, and doesn't appropriately teach people how to healthily end a relationship. Of course a person is going to feel worse mental health when they're treated like they're a bad person for acknowledging the need to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:19 PM
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But that kind of just shows that women are driven by emotion Quite the opposite. Dragging a partner along, hurting both of you, because you are so afraid of being alone, is definitely more "driven by emotion", than accepting the logic of "This relationship was okay, but it's not working anymore." Contrary to popular belief, humans are not a long-term monogamous species. Some humans do manage to make it work (or force it to work via shame and/or laws), but long-term monogamy is basically nonexist…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:12 PM
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Higher rates of breakups, shorter average relationship length This is because they are easier. If women aren't happy, they end the relationship. If men aren't happy, they drag their wives along because they are more afraid of being alone again than the stress of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:05 PM
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Edit: He admitted he was intending to talk to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:37 PM
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So, you admit you weren't talking about me? If you have a problem with "some posters", then go talk about it with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:36 PM
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I have no clue what you're talking about. I think you might have confused me with someone else. I'll mute, so you can get back to that conversation with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:36 PM
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Uncivility in debate is against the rules in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:35 PM
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Did you get me confused with someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:04 PM
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They kinda have to. The minute they stop pushing forward, they get yanked back, and things they obtained quickly get taken away again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:02 PM
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We didn't even have Roe Vs. Wade for 50 years. The current USA campaign is absolutely into the idea of making it harder for married women to vote, stay single, etc. The Tickle Vs Giggle and similar lawsuits are barring women from having sex-based spaces to talk about sex-based issues. Childcare is absurdly expensive (most single parents are women). USA is very interested in stopping contraceptive accessibility, and the low birth rate is blamed on women not having kids instead of being blamed on …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:01 PM
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"Heart breaking" from the breaker's side is very different from the broken side. "Breaking someone's heart" could literally be anything like "The guy had a crush on me until he found out that I have an opposing value/already dating someone/ am not interested in some trait about him/etc." You can break someone's heart without knowing they exist at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:54 PM
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The majority of women aren't dating inmates, so that's not a very good sample size. Being an inmate doesn't inherently make you a bad person. More people are arrested for just stupid or mostly harmless shit than explicitly violent or dangerous things. Dating an inmate isn't the same as dating someone on the outside. While he is incarcerated, the inmate is basically harmless. I'd be more interested in how many of those inmates' girlfriends stick around after he is out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:50 PM
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I don't think anyone is 100% unattractive. She likely has some traits to honestly compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:05 PM
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I was recently trying to understand why Game of Thrones was so absurdly popular It's well-written, with an interesting story and lots of cool characters? Doesn't seem that unusual for it to become popular. I think one of the big aspects is that no one was really designed to be the main character, so anyone can find a favourite character in the cast, from the sword-fighting little girl, to the woman who seeks retribution for having been humiliated, to the boy who loses his family and tries to fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:03 PM

It's ironic that we jump on to wolves about this, since our primate relatives actually do have alphas... except dominance and social status in males is usually upheld through dudes grooming each other (chimps), being protective but not explicitly aggressive and being experts at settling conflict without blows (gorillas), and sexually satisfying females and each other (bonobos)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:48 PM
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Yeah, you stated my claim, and then wrote out a whole paragraph that doesn't make sense as a response to my claim, but does make sense as a response to a different claim I didn't make. I guess that's it for this one, though. I'll mute, then. See ya around. Maybe we'll have better luck next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:44 AM
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I appreciate the attempt to steelman me, at least. It still failed, but still. You still have no clue what my actual claim was, and I'm not sure how to reword it again for you to understand. There won't really be anything we can productively discuss if you aren't actually responding to my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:05 AM
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Can you repeat to me what the concern I just stated is? Just to prove that you actually intend on having a productive conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 10:07 PM
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This entire conversation has just been you telling me what you think I said or how you understood my words. If you won't even let me interpret my own words, then how exactly do you consider this a productive conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:24 PM
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This is honestly one of the things that will actually help. Providing better support systems makes raising kids easier, which means more people can feel comfortable having kids. It's suspected that that's the reason gay people exist. More hands working that aren't making more mouths to feed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:46 PM
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Yeah, I have no clue why people are so insistent on the birth rate being so high. Like yeah, it's gonna suck for the next few decades, but it will even itself out eventually. It's not like humans are going extinct. There really is no reason for there to be 9 billion of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:45 PM
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I'm just saying that you hold the belief in your mind that men cannot be trusted to be homemakers, Don't you think I know more about what my beliefs are than you do? Why do you get to tell me that I'm wrong about what I think my beliefs are? If a man said "A woman cannot be trusted to be the breadwinner" Notice how you worded it like that? If you were being honest, you would have worded it "I have no reason to trust that she will actually be a breadwinner." Which is the sex-swap of my actual wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:41 PM
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So, you're saying that I am the arbiter of what is physically possible? That's pretty neat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 07:14 PM
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I'm not the arbiter of what is physically possible. So, "I don't trust a man to do it" can't be the same as "Men can't do it."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:50 PM

That isn't what I meant by "Ugliness is subjective". I explained what I meant in the following two paragraphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:49 PM

Being ugly also not healthy though It's not not healthy. It doesn't affect health directly, unless it is caused by a health issue. I believe 'fixing' can be reasonable to 'a degree' if you know where to stop. That "if" is doing a lot of carrying. Ugliness is subjective. You see it in makeup all of the time: She starts out with a little eyeliner to look nice. The more she looks at her eyes to apply eyeliner, the more chances she has to notice other things on her face: a wrinkle here, a pimple the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:22 PM
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I didn't say "men can't be trusted." I said "I don't trust a man to do it, because I have never met a man who did it, and most men I've met explicitly lied about it."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:19 PM
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Your entire post was about complaining that men can't be househusbands No it isn't. I never said that men can't be househusbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:12 PM

Obsessing over your appearance enough to want to drastically change it becomes an addiction. The more things you "fix" the more things you find will "need" to be "fixed". Not to mention that unnecessary cosmetic surgeries are dangerous. We don't pick on going to the gym, because going to the gym is physically healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:10 PM
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It looks like you just zeroed in on the phrase "50/50" completely out of context.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:04 PM
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Simple solution is to become the breadwinner but they're hypergamous so they're not going to settle for a househusband. Unless the househusband is the one who will gestate, birth, and nurse the child[ren], we're still going to rely on his income for months to years at a time. Not to mention the concern of a job giving a woman less hours or not hiring her at all out of fear that they will lose her to pregnancy, even if she has no interest in actually having kids or plans on being the working pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:24 PM
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In your rant, you didn't actually answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 11:13 AM
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How/why would I control whether my daughter was friends with a prostitute? Did you read anything else in my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:23 AM
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I am currently friends with an active prostitute. I don't see why I should stop being friends with her over it. I don't generally reject a friend over just an occupation. She doesn't quite fit your model of "she only does it to afford expensive shit", but then, I have never heard of a real prostitute who does. This idea that prostitution is "just easy money" is pretty much just a fantasy made by Johns and Pimps, which is made obvious by the fact that those Johns and Pimps are magically never wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:35 AM
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You're*, and sentences end with periods. (I'll mute and head out, though, I don't feed trolls).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:52 PM
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You are remarkably good at proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:51 PM
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I used to work at a group home for senior citizens... the reason men die 7 years younger is because that's what happens when you choose to not take care of your body. The self-care behaviour between the men and the similar-aged women was drastically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:10 PM
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The majority of these sorts of things don't require any change besides just a verbal declaration. Beyond that, in your 60s, your testosterone is crippling due to age anyway, so it's not that big of a deal, I don't think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:32 PM
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It's basically to be expected. If sex laws are built around a personal identity and not actual needs, then people are going to use that loophole to get around them. I don't really think retirement has a reason to be sex-based anyway, and I don't think people should be able to change their legal sex on official government documentation, records, and censuses. Your gender identity is your personal identity. Your sex is an objective measure of census and record. So, I'm not a fan of any part of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:31 PM

I meant masking is easier when the requirement to mask is forced on you at a young age, and it's harder when the first time you're told "no" is well into adulthood. Not that the overall experience is better for girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:34 PM

How do you know its easier for women to mask? My first thought as well. I think it is easier, though: I work with people with autism for a living, and you would not believe how much the moms coddle the boys. Men who really could be more independent than they are are still at home with mommy well into their 30s, still being fed by her instead of being encouraged to cook for himself, still letting her handle all the paperwork when I know he could pull some weight with it, etc. Dad does it too, don…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:05 PM
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Literally the purpose of letting women enter and drink for free is to sell very drunk women to men. There are way better places you can have a ladies' night with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:42 PM

then they would be a bit more careful about what they say and how they treat men. They are. Hence why these sorts of things are usually only complained about online, where no man is actually present, or otherwise in situations where she is not alone with a man. Iran should be a cautionary tale to women that the backlash can be swift and irreversible and that their rights are contingent on the acceptance of the majority of men. That cautionary tale makes so little sense to me. Men are so terrifie…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:32 PM

While I haven't seen all of those, the usual common factor isn't just that he's an oaf, but that he's a loveable oaf. A woman portrayed as an oaf is played off as "Look at this stupid bitch. Anyone who tries to correct or direct her is clearly in the right.", while a man portrayed as an oaf is played off as "Look at this silly, wholesome dad. Anyone who tries to correct or direct him is clearly just a nagging bitch (his wife)."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:12 PM

These days it has become so lopsided that even the hint of it coming from a man gets you canceled but coming from a woman gets you applause. Not that it's a good thing, but in fairness that difference of response is probably because a man can kill a woman easily with his fists alone, and it's way harder for a woman to do the same to a man. It's kinda like how people freak out way more about a pit-bull biting someone than a cat biting someone. It's not a double standard if you are describing two …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:09 PM

Venting about a group who has collectively threatened you and caused you harm pretty much occurs as soon as you have some safe place to do so. The only difference for men is that in the past, complaining about men occurred over tea time when no men were around, and nowadays it occurs on the internet, where a man might stumble into and see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:29 PM
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Isn't that what you want? Guys complain when women don't give them signs we're not interested in him, and now they complain when we do give them signs we're not interested in him? Make up your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:54 PM
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Because when men say it, they only focus on appearance. They basically use it as an excuse to not change any misogynistic behaviour, and state "The only reasons she isn't dating me is because of my appearance, so she has to lower her standards, and I am perfect and have to change nothing." Basically implying that her standards only exist to personally bully him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:10 PM
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I've gotta say, this trolling style is a new one I haven't seen before. I'll see if you want to actually respond to what I said, otherwise I'll mute and head out, since I don't tend to feed trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 09:25 AM
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So when you go out, do you wear clothes that show a lot of skin and cleavage or do you dress in a way that’s designed doesn’t show off the tatas? I'm irrelevant, I don't have large breasts and ass. But I also said nothing about just skin: my point is that even if the outfit doesn't show skin, it will still hug the frame and clearly show the bust shape. A busty woman has to go super far out of her way to wear enough clothing to actually hide her bust. As for skin, the more fat you have, the hotte…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:25 AM
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Like everything you wear automatically shows off cleavage and underboob because your boobs are just too big to cover up and it’s not your fault? You literally said "Every single dress or club outfit is designed to show cleavage and draw attention to the tits." So, that's your claim. I don't entirely agree, as I don't think it's every outfit, but yeah, the majority of outfits that aren't explicitly outfits for very cold weather and therefore be very bulky, will in some way wrap around the cleavag…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:10 AM
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It's weird that you're asking me that instead of actually responding to my points. I have no reason to answer your question if you won't respond to my points first. Why would I answer you if you're not reading my answers?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:42 AM
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You didn't respond to either of my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:07 AM
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Did you mean to respond this to me? It doesn't seem to respond to anything from my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 05:01 PM

I have more than just PCOS... I appreciate that answer, at least. The reason I asked is because you're waving around "your" DSD as if it's relevant, but you refuse to state what your DSD is. This is very common in the DSD version of AsABlackMan (pretending to be something you're not and using it to shut down conversation). You can't say "Why would you ask about my condition?!" when you literally started a conversation built around your perspective of supposedly your condition. That is super dish…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:57 PM
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1, I already answered that: Problem is that when you have big ass/tits, then everything accentuates them unless you are going far out of your way to hide them. As you said, all of the clothes are designed to show them off. It's not like she can temporarily deflate her large tits/ass. 2, I already answered that: I've also had no problem with a man finding me attractive if he was being respectful about it. My point of "If she doesn't know" is that if he's not being obnoxious, then she wouldn't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:42 PM
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Women basically want to see themselves as sexy sexual beings, with hot bodies and good looks, capable of drawing sexual attention. But they see the men who sexualise them as disgusting pigs Idk, I run in lesbian circles, and we have no problem finding each other attractive. I've also had no problem with a man finding me attractive if he was being respectful about it. Yet every single man who dares look at their breasts. If she doesn't know you're looking at her breasts, then she wouldn't have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:29 PM

EDIT: I just looked up your post history, and I see you talked a bit about having PCOS. Is that what you're referring to by your claim to be Intersex? Or do you have another diagnosis from which you base your identity? Which DSD/Intersex variant are you? DSD is an outdated and sexist term. Intersex variants aren't disorders, You got a bit mixed up there. The first D can either mean "Disorder" or "Difference". Also, a majority of people with DSDs feel positive or neutral to the term Basically, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:54 PM
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DSD is an outdated and sexist term. Intersex variants aren't disorders, You got a bit mixed up there. The first D can either mean "Disorder" or "Difference". Also, a majority of people with DSDs feel positive or neutral to the term Basically, there isn't really a consensus on DSD individuals for if they as a community prefer DSD or Intersex. I use DSD (Difference). DSD Wiki page: "Urologists were concerned that terms like intersex, hermaphrodite, and pseudohermaphrodite were confusing and pejora…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:39 PM
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Still no sources, huh? At least you admit that you're just trolling. I'll mute and bounce, then. I don't feed trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:56 AM

Besides reporting the comment for irrelevancy, you can also just stop responding to the thread if you're in it. That's not how studies work. If I made a "study" where I asked my 10 male friends a question, and then uploaded that article somewhere, that's not a real, peer-reviewed study that can actually back the argument. In the same vein, just because a study is old doesn't mean it's not valid. I don't think quoting things is worth being a whole rule, but I agree that it's helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:43 PM
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Is this really the place for such a thing? Consider the relevant subreddits. Yes. This is a debate sub. The fact that the only "source" you've provided was a fictional story, and not the "evidence" and "academic assessment" you claim to have is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:35 PM
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It doesn't hinge on belief. Belief is irrelevant. Again, this is just religious talk. Hence why you claim there is "evidence" and "academic assessment" but don't provide any evidence. There's a reason people are declared essentially dead if their brain ceases to function even if their body does not Yeah, the reason is because the brain sends the commands to the rest of the organs. Not because everything you experience is only in your brain. It is very likely that in the near future, we will have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:55 PM
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Fancy talk, but doesn't provide any evidence to your implication that brains and bodies are two completely different things. Basically, it boils down to if you believe in spirits (that our identity is a separate thing from our physicality).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:59 PM
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If you don't have a body, you don't exist. Your brain isn't a separate entity from your body, it's intertwined and connected to your body through your nervous system, which directly affects your thought processes and emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:35 PM
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Tbf, that term has very subjective definitions. If you polled the sub on how many people believe consenting adults should be allowed to transition their body if they choose, and participate in any event of their transitioned gender that is not explicitly affected by any part of their sex that couldn't be transitioned (ex, trans woman wants to wear a dress, trans man wants to be a voice actor for male characters), I'd wager most of the sub would be fine with that. What I'm mostly seeing here is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:21 PM
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All intersex disorders are either male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:17 PM
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That red hair statistic is wrong. It tends to count people whose sex was affected later than developmental stages (like Late onset congenital adrenal hyperplasia, or even Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome). If you specifically are counting disorders in which a person's sexual development is disordered, the number is much lower. like there was a story about a woman who had birthed children but was intersex Yeah, there are a few DSDs that do not affect a woman's fertility. For example, Trisomy X (XXX ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:40 PM
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Intersex people do fit the male and female categories. I also have a list of intersex/DSDs, which states which sex each one fits into and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:35 PM
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There will likely come a time when human brains can be put into other bodies. What will people be then? Does the brain define sex? Bodies are sexed, brains are not (outside of the fact that your brain is your body). Brain development is affected by your experiences, but your body was sexed before your brain even existed, and your sex is built into every single cell of your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:32 PM
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Honestly, I think they just like the pretty number. I doubt most women could actually correctly guess that a man is 6'0.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:32 PM
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The whole idea that a tradwife is a good thing or that giving up your name and your kids' names is no big deal. Why any woman goes through birthing a child- a process that is life-threatening or can cause permanent injury if not closely monitored by a doctor and was a massive cause of death until like a century ago- and then gives no shits about the man's name being plastered on the baby is beyond me. The overall idea of letting his name be on the kid isn't my issue, it's the idea that this is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:30 PM
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I have one past boyfriend, and yeah, I'd hook up with him. At the time, I was looking for a boyfriend specifically, and wasn't open to FWBs, so I would have rejected that then, but I wouldn't reject it now, since now I'm open to FWBs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:24 PM

The majority of men I've dated or tried to date were bisexual, yeah. They tend to be more respectful (although I have met one or two who were still horribly misogynistic).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:48 AM
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Yeah, as I said, he made a bad investment and now he's whining about it. Should have gone for hiring a nanny and maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:12 PM
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