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I think it could be a valid term if it's either applied both ways or just towards men as good-faith constructive criticism. The problem is, it will NEVER be applied both ways.. It will only ever be applied in one direction, from women towards men. I also do not believe there is a "Good Faith" way to use the term at all The way the term has been and is constantly used is to shut men down Its used in the context of women being the sole people who have to bare the Emotional / Mental load in a relat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/26 10:21 PM
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What they really meant was: "We only want men we find attractive to come up to us and ask us out!" And of course, men are expected to be mind readers or Know if they are attractive or not... They want to have their cake, and eat it too
/r/MensRights16/08/26 07:35 PM
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So.. instead they could have found her guilty of manslaughter? But no.. they didn't even do that.. The problem is, this stinks of a woman getting special privilege because of her gender.. I can guarantee that if the genders were reversed and a man was found not guilty of murder by insanity / psychosis he would 100% be done for Manslaughter and STILL receive jail time for it...
/r/MensRights16/08/26 06:34 AM
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Fuck off! You are part of the problem of why this shit isn't taken seriously enough!
/r/MensRights16/08/26 03:24 AM
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Second-wave feminists were the ones who successfully advocated for statutory rape laws with gender neutral language. They're the ones who made persecution of female perpetrators possible. Except for you know.. the fact that these women are NOT being charged with "Rape" but usually are charged with something like "Unlawful sexual connection with a minor" Because in many places the crime of "Rape" is defined to specifically be a crime that ONLY men can commit, often because the definition specific…
/r/MensRights16/08/26 12:44 AM
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Oh, they are absolutely possible and have happened. Hermesmann v. Seyer - 1993 where a court in Kansas ruled that a 12 year old boy who was raped by his 16 year old baby sitter would have to pay child support because "The child's right to financial support outweighed other factors" Nick Olivas (2014) - The court in Arizona ordered Nick Olivas to pay back child support for a child that was conceived when he was 14 and raped by a 20 year old woman. So yeah.. it absolutely DOES happen.
/r/MensRights15/08/26 11:33 PM
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The answer to selective service is to give women an equivalent role.. I don't think the answer is to force women to be on the front lines.. But women are perfectly capable of working 8 hour shifts in the factories producing clothing, food and ammunition / other supplies to support the men who are fighting.. So then the equal service would be they are required to report for duty and work shifts to help provide supplies for the men fighting for them.. That's one solution.. The other solution which…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/26 10:38 PM
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There's this thing called "The Age of Consent" ever heard of it? The idea is that people who are younger than the age of consent legally can not consent to having sex because the law recognizes that they are not old enough to know / understand the consequences of having sex. Which is why when an older man or woman has sex with an underage boy / girl it absolutely should be called what it is: Rape
/r/MensRights15/08/26 10:30 PM
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Well in the USA they seem to have no qualms forcing boys to pay their rapists... Yet i'm sure if they forced girls who were raped to pay their rapist there would be a massive uproar...
/r/MensRights15/08/26 10:28 PM
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I was a little rushed when I posted my initial comment, but this was indeed the case I was thinking of when I made my comment!
/r/MensRights15/08/26 10:23 PM
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Yeah, as other people have stated it absolutely is the case The courts will agree that the facts of the case prove beyond a doubt that the woman raped the boy.. But they ignore all of that and instead say "The needs of the child must be met" Except for you know.. when its an underage boy being raped by a woman and then being forced into being an indentured servant by the courts... Its fucking insane to me that the courts will say: "People below the age of 16 - 18 in the United States can not con…
/r/MensRights15/08/26 10:14 PM
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It’s like you’re not even trying to advocate for equality, you just want to feel like you’re suffering more than women. You are projecting so had right now its visible from the surface of Mars... Seriously.. go read your first comment again It is literally you trying to feel like women are suffering more than men...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/26 08:14 PM
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I'm sure those "Men' wouldn't want to be in the boy's shoes once he turns 18 and the state forces him to pay child support for a child he legally could not consent to having... I'm sure when that happens they would suddenly say "That's so UNFAIR!!!"
/r/MensRights15/08/26 08:06 PM
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I'm sorry? But are you really acting like men are not expected by society to be the "Bread Winner"? And any man who fails at this gender role is mocked and or told he's useless? Lets also not forget that because men tend to work more and thus EARN more than women they also pay more income tax than women do.. Tax which is used to fund social safety nets either exclusively for women or nearly exclusively used by women.. You also seem to ignore the FACT that in a majority of households the women co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/26 07:20 PM
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Those same statistics are based on biased premises / laws / policies which assume that men are by default the aggressor / abuser.. So yeah.. when the policies state that you are by default an abuser and not a victim of course the statistics are going to reflect that. Just look at the statistics when it comes to rape for example.. Then look at how many places DELIBERATELY define the crime of rape in such a way that ONLY MEN can be charged with it. Once again.. if Rape is a crime that, due to the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/26 04:12 AM
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The part you don’t seem to understand the patriarchy harms men too. Why do you think so many young men are in crisis? Firstly, your assumption that we live in a "Patriarchy" and that said "Patriarchy" hurts men too is asinine. Secondly, why do I think so many men are in crisis? Oh I don't know... but it might have something to do with the constant berating and shaming of men as a whole through the main stream media and especially social media? Men are constantly being vilified, generalized and d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/26 04:08 AM
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Women could work in factories producing food, ammunition, medical supplies etc to support the troops in the field.. The state could absolutely mandate this and force women to work to support defending the country.. But it does not.. Its not like women are incapable of doing the work.. They don't want to do it and expect special treatment / the ability to flee the country in times of war.. And what do men get in return for being forced to fight, die or be mutilated doing so for their country? Do …
/r/MensRights14/08/26 11:23 PM
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I'm constantly reminded of Season 2 of "The Island, with Bear Grylls" where they placed 14 men and 14 women on separate uninhabited islands in the pacific for 6 weeks with basic tools to test their survival skills.. Each had a survival expert with them. The men had some conflicts but were able to resolve their issues and work together. They established a hierarchy and everything went smoothly because everyone had their role to play Oh, and they caught so much food that they started sharing it wi…
/r/MensRights14/08/26 10:27 PM
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When you are accustomed to not being held accountable for your actions, equality can feel like oppression... But yeah.. isn't it funny how whenever a woman commits a violent heinous act.. the sisterhood circles the wagons and looks at every single angle they can to remove accountability from the woman? Of course, that accountability can't just vanish and so they have to redirect accountability onto someone else.. and in most cases that turns out being a man...
/r/MensRights14/08/26 01:14 AM
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Grow up and get married. You don't have to do an expensive ceremony. Just sign the damn paper and any prenuptial documents you and your partner agree to like adults. Given the fact that judges can and have thrown out prenuptial agreements in the past simply signing one is no guarantee of protection.. If I have spent the last 2 decades working hard, amassing a large savings for my retirement etc.. why should a women I meet and have a short relationship with be entitled to half of what I've saved …
/r/MensRights13/08/26 02:25 AM
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Ah yes.. once again forcing men to foot the bill.. No wonder Paternity fraud isn't taken seriously... the government doesn't care WHO the father is.. so long as A man is paying for the child...
/r/MensRights13/08/26 02:19 AM
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Incorrect... The move is to live with only men.. Either the government will have to apply the same policies to same sex cohabitants or they won't get anything.. At the very least if you live with only men you have a higher chance of both sides saying and agreeing to: "We leave with what we came in with right?"
/r/MensRights13/08/26 02:18 AM
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Oh hey! remember the moral panic about male teachers only being teachers because they secretly want to diddle kids? Now that education has over 80% of teachers as women isn't it surprising that there are still adults diddling kids? Yet when female teachers do it, its not treated as serious as when men do it..
/r/MensRights13/08/26 02:16 AM
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The point is, they use "Equality isn't a zero sum game" as a way to dismiss criticism of their movement. Often it get paired with "Feminism is fighting for men's right's / equality too!" Which is often nothing more than lip service designed to deflect and detract men from focusing on the issues they face and instead redirect their attention back towards the issues women face.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 07:12 PM
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Bingo! And of course they hide all of this behind the Pubic Relations spin of "But Feminism is a movement for equality!" or "Feminism is for men too!" But you are correct.. the idea has always been to keep the money / resources flowing towards women's issues..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 07:10 PM
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Its all deflection and projection.. Especially from feminists who claim "Equality is not a zero sum game" all while dismissing or downplaying men's issues... usually by blaming the issues we as men face as caused by "The Patriarchy" or "Toxic Masculinity" or simply "Other Men" There's also this idea that in order for men's issues to be discussed / looked into it means taking away attention or resources from women's issues.. (But remember, Equality isn't a zero sum game!)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 06:29 AM
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I agree, but sadly feminism has conditioned many women to see any and all forms of men opening up / being emotional as "Emotional Labor" And we wonder why there's a male loneliness epidemic and why the male suicide rate is so high...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 06:26 AM
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Or the men open up and share their feelings only for them to be weaponized against them down the line.. Or the classic: "Stop trauma dumping!" or "Stop saddling me with emotional labor!" or "Women aren't men's therapists!" And sure.. I agree that women are not men's therapists.. But you can't say on one hand: "Men should open up more, men who don't are exhibiting 'Toxic Masculinity'" And then with the other hand proclaim a man is "Trauma dumping" or saddling you with "Emotional Labor" Men who en…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 04:42 AM
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And people wonder why men are in general so adverse to going to therapy... It would not surprise me in the least if many men who sought therapy ended up with a therapist who is anti-man and they could tell within a few sessions and simply stopped going..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 02:22 AM
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Its called a bait and switch.. The claim we need to move beyond traditional gender roles / norms.. But only the ones which apply to / negatively affect women.. Gender roles for men which benefit women are allowed to stay / continue and should not be removed at all.. For obvious reasons...
/r/MensRights11/08/26 09:28 PM
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No joke i've seen women who have been rejected by men they've approached at a bar.. Going so far as to smash a glass on his head.. But remember what the feminist overlords tell us "A man is worried his pride / ego will be hurt if a woman says No.. a woman is worried a man will hurt or kill her if she says No"
/r/MensRights11/08/26 09:26 PM
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Mother of 7. My kids are my world!!!! Dont message unless your 6 foot and make 6 figures. I know my worth!!! Clearly not as you haven't also demanded the man have a 6 pack of abs! /S
/r/MensRights11/08/26 09:24 PM
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Real feminism is saying that women can do what men can Except you know.. when it comes to taking accountability like men are expected to do.. Or to serve your country like men are expected to do.. Or to work in dangerous, dirty or physically demanding jobs like men are expected to do.. Or to be committing suicide at the rate men do... Or expecting men to make the first move / pay for dates... Feminism treats equality more like a buffet where they pick and choose what they want / don't want.. Cla…
/r/MensRights11/08/26 07:27 PM
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And then watch as nothing changes at all.. Welcome to "Equality" ladies!
/r/MensRights11/08/26 07:21 PM
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Yep.. they LOVE to gaslight with that justification.. "If a man has nothing to hide then he should let his partner have access to his phone and social media" In their mind this is a perfectly acceptable position to take.. But then if you suggest: "If a woman has nothing to hide she should have no issue with having a paternity test done on the kids.." Suddenly its all: "OMG That's a massive invasion of her trust and privacy!! How could you possibly ask that!? The only reason you would ask for a p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/26 07:13 PM
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And the double standards / bias increase if the man accused / found guilty is of color.. Then they get even harsher sentences... Its also funny how people will leap to the defense of a woman who is accused of a violent crime with "Oh she was suffering from a mental disorder" or "She has substance abuse issues" or "She faced trauma while growing up..." Yet NONE of those factors apply to men who commit violent crimes.. Amazing how that works right..
/r/MensRights11/08/26 09:33 AM
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“She is taking criminal responsibility for her action, the state is willing to accept her plea,” But apparently "Responsibility" stops at doing ACTUAL prison time for the crime she committed... Clenney’s attorneys alleged that Obumseli, 27, was abusive and argued their client was a battered partner. Now, I'm not going to say he wasn't.. but its the usual go to in these cases where they claim the deceased man was "Abusive" and that she was "Battered" Convenient that we can't get his side of the s…
/r/MensRights11/08/26 02:44 AM
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But you literally just said in your previous comment: Because as men, we shouldn't lower ourselves to their level. We should be better than that. We have to be better than that. Yet here you are saying if being the better man isn't working try something else... Do you have any form of internal consistency?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 10:02 AM
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Yes, but WHY should we "Venerate" women? Just look at our current society and the constant slandering of men and the use of #KillALLMen or #YesALLMen etc.. What have they done that is deserving of veneration?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 09:30 AM
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I have been the "Better man" for decades now.. It hasn't changed a single thing... The definition of insanity is performing the same action over and over again and expecting a different result...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 09:29 AM
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I WANT to.. But its kind of hard living up to those ideals / expectations while watching as the "Fairer Sex" is constantly not held up to the same level of ideals / expectations or even standards... Why should I expend effort on those ideals if at the end of the day i'm still going to be generalized, vilified and demonized for things I have never done based exclusively on my gender and race?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 06:54 AM
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I think what you have said is an over simplification of things... I wouldn't say this sub takes the position of "Men have no rights" and "women rule the world" It DOES highlight the blatant inequalities men face compared to women as well as debunking the bullshit narrative of our society being a "Patriarchy" in which men have ALL the "power" and "privilege" and use it exclusively to oppress women.. Oh yeah and of course every single issue we as men face is caused by either: "The Patriarchy", "To…
/r/MensRights10/08/26 06:51 AM
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I agree he isn't perfect and I'm not defending his actions.. But you have people acting as though he was the one who was whispering in her ear or literally forced her to do what she did.. When that simply isn't the case.. An argument COULD be made that his actions were a contributing factor to her mental decline.. But to try and pin all the blame for what she ultimately ended up doing is insane to me...
/r/MensRights10/08/26 02:27 AM
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And yet.. despite all this evidence look at how willing people are to blame her husband for everything...
/r/MensRights10/08/26 01:37 AM
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Can you imagine a world where blackout drunk or unconsious people could consent you could litterly just get people drunk/high and manipulate them anyway they want. Luckily our legal system prevents this kind of behaviour Except our legal system only applies this defense to women who are blackout drunk.. If a woman gets a man black out drunk and forces sex on him she is not held accountable in the same way a man would be...
/r/MensRights10/08/26 01:35 AM
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I'm honestly not surprised by this at all.. This only further reinforces the widely held belief of: "Boys / Men aren't allowed to hit Girls / Women" How many girls have grown up having this exact thing told to them day after day while watching media which reinforces this message? How many of those women then go on to believe they can hit boys / men with what to them feels like diplomatic immunity? We've seen it over and over again, videos where a woman is going ballistic on a man in the street, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/26 11:04 PM
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You are absolutely correct.. Sadly though, society has deemed that men are not allowed "Privacy" After all.. what if the men are making misogynistic comments in their locker room talks? We can't have that! And so they must be scrutinized at all times.. But as you said, when it comes to women's sports.. Their privacy is sacrosanct..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/26 09:20 PM
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It really does feel like "Misandry" is the the new Spice Melange... these days.. Oh and of course, any man who is upset by this article will be instantly and immediately painted as "One of the men they need to be wary of" Because in their minds its a case of: "Men who are innocent have no reason to get upset at being generalized based on their gender..."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/26 09:14 PM
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It absolutely is! The Bailey is when they use the definition specifically to fight for women's rights / issues The Motte is what they retreat to when you call them out often heavily citing / emphasizing the "Feminism is about equality" in their definition.. and claiming that anyone who cares about "Equality" is a feminist and anyone who disagrees with feminism must be against "Equality"
/r/MensRights09/08/26 09:11 PM
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Umm yeah see.. Your Sun sign is currently rising in the house of Aeries.. while you Moon sign is setting in the house of Cancer.. This is causing a wave of negativity to come from you.. You should consider realigning your Chakras.... /S But yeah I get what you mean.. Zodiac Signs and all that can be amusing / fun.. but anyone who takes it seriously is nuts
/r/MensRights09/08/26 08:59 PM
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Ah yes.. because why let FACTS get in the way of the sisterhood defending the actions of a killer? Every single time a woman does something wrong they come out of the woodwork to defend her.. - Oh she was clearly under massive amounts of stress - A man MADE her do it... - etc They come up with reasons upon reasons to remove accountability for what she has done.. But of course.. if they absolve her accountability the blame needs to go somewhere so naturally they go ahead and stick it on the man i…
/r/MensRights09/08/26 08:56 PM
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Feminism at its core seeks out equality, that is its main principle, in no way is that anti-male. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.. You CLAIM feminism is not "Anti-male" yet from my own personal experience I can say that claim has no legs to stand on... Earlier in this thread someone posted a highlight reel of things PROMINENT FEMINISTS have said.. Many of the things they have said and things feminists to this day CONTINUE to say is firmly "Anti-male"
/r/MensRights09/08/26 07:18 AM
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Also, why is it women's job to help men? Actual feminists want to abolish the patriarchy, capitalism, racism, and homophobia with it, and every single one of these goals helps men, so actual feminists DO fight for your cause as well. But even if the feminist movement ONLY wanted advancement for women, and women only, why is that so bothersome? Feminists have been preaching for DECADES now about how the feminism movement is a "Movement for equality" or how "Feminism is for men too!" I would be fi…
/r/MensRights09/08/26 07:14 AM
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What do male suicide rates have to do with women, and what do boys failing at school have to do with women? I'm SOOOO glad you asked.. Firstly, regarding male suicide, we aren't even ALLOWED to discuss it in formal settings.. There was an attempt many years ago to have a discussion about the high male suicide rates at the University of Toronto and what happened? FEMINISTS (The majority of which were women) protested it and did everything they could to disrupt the conference / shut it down.. even…
/r/MensRights09/08/26 07:01 AM
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“The officers have been very brave, and I think people who saw some of the videos that were circulating online, you can see the officers they didn't rush to use their tasers." “They were trying to negotiate. They were trying to do it...That's British policing. You don't rush to use force unless you have to." And yet I'd be willing to bet, if the gender of the offender were "Male" they would be more likely / willing to utilize their tasers / use force.. Also, note how heavily they focus on the "M…
/r/MensRights08/08/26 03:21 AM
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You already see this playing out after years of discourse telling men to leave women alone being plastered all over the internet and all of left-leaning media. And in the last couple years the data starts rolling out about how men have become more avoidant of women, and all the secondary effects of that social change. And now the discourse has flipped to shaming men for avoiding women. They sure do love placing us men in double binds don't they? They say leave women alone so we do as they ask an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/26 02:45 AM
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My hero! As I said, I paraphrased but I got the overall gist of what was said And now i'm going to save that link for when I need to reference it down the line. Edit: I also forgot this tidbit in her article: In her view, rape is a subjective term, one that women must use to draw attention to other, nonviolent, even nonsexual forms of oppression. "If a woman did falsely accuse a man of rape, she may have had reasons to," Ginny says. "Maybe she wasn't raped, but he clearly violated her in some wa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/26 11:22 PM
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Mean while they are also complaining about "Where have all the good men gone" or "Why aren't men making the first move anymore?" etc.. They love sticking men into double binds where no matter what we do, we lose.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/26 10:46 PM
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Its worse than that.. I saw an article that justified why False Accusations against men are a "Good" thing.. I don't have a link to it anymore but i'll paraphrase what the author said: A false accusation is a good learning opportunity for the man accused, he can take time to reflect and ask himself difficult questions like, "If I didn't rape her, could I have?, What could I have said or done to make her think I was capable of raping her, how can I change what I say and do to be a better ally to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/26 10:43 PM
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So, she agrees to have sex, but the guy doesn’t want a third date, so it was therefore a booty call, and what? The consent didn’t count? The whole idea that someone can consent to sex at the time but then upon reflection or realization that the guy broke things off with her she can retroactively withdraw consent is insane to me.. Now, for any lurkers out there, Consent IS VERY IMPORTANT I am all for consent. But this idea that at any point in the future that consent can be withdrawn? that's fuck…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/26 10:37 PM
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So.. women falsely accusing men of rape is "A problem men created"? Or women committing paternity fraud is "A problem men created"? Or female teachers grooming / raping underage male students is "A problem men created"? Or feminists controlling the narrative when it comes to Domestic Violence, Rape and Sexual Assault is "A problem men created"?
/r/MensRights07/08/26 10:28 PM
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Exactly! When a woman does something bad there are many attempts at justification. "She's obviously suffering from mental health issues" "A man made her do it" etc. Pretty much anything and everything is tried to negate her accountability.. But when a man does something wrong there is no "Justification" he's just bad and needs to be held accountable / punished to the full extent of the law.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/26 07:10 PM
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Argument one: It was feminists who drafted, published and pushed for the uptake of the Duluth Model of domestic violence, a model which assumes that in ALL cases of domestic violence involving heterosexual couples the man is ALWAYS the aggressor / abuser and the women is ALWAYS the victim. This model alone has influenced domestic violence programs around the world and has lead to men who are victims of domestic violence being erased from the statistics. After all, you can't be a "Victim" if the …
/r/MensRights07/08/26 08:55 AM
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When you hear women make fun of this, do you call them out? I do call them out when it happens.. and then usually I get accused of being a rape apologist or misogynist or incel etc...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/26 05:56 AM
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Actually no, never heard a woman say that ever. So.. because YOU have never heard a woman say that, it NEVER happens? That is your logic here right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/26 05:56 AM
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Its absolutely disgusting how they think its okay to justify female teachers being just as predatory as male teachers is "not as bad" as when the genders are reversed It very much is a case of "Rules for He, not for She" isn't it? But remember, Women are just as capable as men are! Except when it comes to being held accountable apparently...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/26 09:12 PM
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In my view his statement could possibly still be correct.. But until we fix the biases within the system and get a more accurate measure we can not know for sure. Like i'd still be willing to agree that in such a scenario, women would still be the majority of victims of Sexual Assault and Rape, but I don't think it would be by as wide a margin as it currently is painted as.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/26 09:05 AM
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I agree with responses above that definitions of sexual assault and rape need to be changed to make sure we have accurate account of male victims, but it doesn't make my statement about female victims incorrect. If the definitions of Sexual Assault and Rape are wrong and need to be changed as you agree they should.. Then how can you then claim your statement about female victims is correct? If the definitions of the crimes are wrong and are done so specifically to ensure that women are considere…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/26 09:03 AM
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Would you be saying the same thing if the genders were reversed? No.. I don't think you would.. Not only that, but, if the genders were reversed this would ABSOLUTELY be used as an example of "Misogyny" and "Attempted Femicide"... But when its a woman inflicting the violence it always get deflected by "Oh she has mental health issues" etc..
/r/MensRights05/08/26 11:53 PM
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I'm not "Making excuses for men who rape" I'm pointing out a very clear very REAL double standard and bias in the system. I will state this as clearly as I can: I am aware there ARE men who commit rape, it is horrible and those men absolutely should be held accountable I am not defending their actions at all. I am pointing out the FACT that the statistics are NOT representative because of the clear bias in the system. against men A bias which feminists seem to have little interest in addressing …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/26 11:29 PM
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I don't have any sources at this point. But you are still ignoring the fact that in many places the crime of "Rape" is specifically defined / gender coded to be a crime that only men can commit. Ergo, if the crime is something that ONLY MEN can be found guilty of.. then logically, the statistics are going to reflect that right? What i'm saying here is, If the law / crime of rape were gender neutral AND we held women accountable to the same degree we hold men too the statistics would NOT be as on…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/26 09:29 PM
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To many libs/lefties/progressive, denying patriarchy is like denying gravity. It's such an internalized "truth" to them they can't fathom anyone disgreeing it exists who also shares most of their worldview. It's time to try defying patriarchy! I think i'll try defying patriarchy! Kiss me goodbye, i'm defying patriarchy! And you won't bring me down! Sorry, I couldn't resist. You are correct that they hold "Patriarchy" to be as fundamental a force as gravity is. And as an aside, it genuinely makes…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/26 08:21 PM
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I guess the problem there is when someone claims "But men commit the majority of rape!" and use statistics as evidence to back up their claim.. And when we offer a nuanced response to that claim, we get accused of not wanting to accept reality or facts.. To be fair, I don't accept statistics as "Facts" because of how easily statistics can be manipulated.. But so many feminists will hold up a statistic from a study as though it is on the level of scientific theory and thus undeniable... all while…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/26 08:03 PM
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As someone who regularly comments in this sub I can say that i've had interactions with people who have annoyed or even angered me but i've never blocked a single person after responding to them. In my mind, when i'm picking apart someone's arguments i'm not trying to change their minds but instead i'm speaking to the people lurking in the shadows.. Blocking someone from responding to me removes any chances of me further picking their arguments apart..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/26 07:54 PM
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I agree that saying "No one cares about men" is reductive and even similar to feminists blaming patriarchy.. But I can also understand why many people fall into that reductive conclusion.. Given the overall anti-male sentiments we see on a daily basis its not that hard to fall into the conclusion of "No body cares about men" because if people actually cared about men then things wouldn't be as grim for men as they are right now. I myself have fallen into that depressive spiral a few times and ha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/26 07:50 PM
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I will freely state that I fall into the former camp (I identified as feminist and then stopped after not being able to reconcile their treatment of men) I guess for me, when someone who is a feminist comes into this sub and starts parroting the usual feminist rhetoric of "Patriarchy" and "Toxic Masculinity" and "Other Men" etc.. I get annoyed because it reminds me of why I stopped being a feminist in the first place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/26 07:44 PM
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And, it seems like anything that isn't part of an echo chamber or asks a question is completely unwelcome. I think its important to use that "Nuance" you mentioned earlier.. In my experience at least the people who "Says something we don't agree with" or "Asks a question" are usually feminists who are either rage baiting us or concern trolling.. They start from the view point of us living within a "Patriarchy" as being self-evident and then they usually go on to blame most if not all the issues …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/26 06:41 AM
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But remember! Its "Other Men" committing violence against men... At least according to our feminist overlords.. Or i'm sure they will spin it to make it seem like this man MADE her shoot him...
/r/MensRights04/08/26 10:20 PM
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I'm fully aware, It still sickens me that feminists can drone on and on about supposed "Rape Academies" on a porn website.. yet in the year of our lord 2026 Rape is still a crime that in most countries only men can be charged with...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 08:57 PM
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I'm so sick and tired of the flowery language used to dismiss women who are predators.. Its always: Woman guilty of "Having sex with underage boy" or: Woman charged with "Unlawful sexual connection with a minor" Yet when its a man the headlines always call it what it is, Rape!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 08:53 PM
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Its all good, it happens, I also apologize if I came in hot there..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 08:25 PM
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Now i'm NOT going to boldly say that every woman who calls out men is projecting.. You seem to have missed out the word NOT in my statement.. I said I was NOT going to boldly say that every woman who calls out men is projecting" Do you like creating strawman arguments by conveniently dropping words from what people have said to suite your arguments?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 07:45 PM
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Yeah.. isn't it amazing the amount of misogyny she got from other women for speaking her mind? But lets not talk about that.. the feminist overlords want us to believe that Misogyny is a one way street and comes explicitly from men towards women.... The fact is, an accusation was made, Asia denied it completely and literally did the same things men who have been accused do.. And then when evidence came to light which proved the claim was true? Instead of calling her out as the snake in the grass…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 07:37 PM
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I didn't mention a single thing about projection in my comment? You are putting words in my mouth friend.. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy and double standards Asia was one of the many women who accused Harvey Weinstein (And don't get me wrong he was a predator) But then it turns out she was also a predator.. Its a bit hypocritical for her to call out someone for something she her self did right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 07:19 PM
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People in the #MeToo movement were justifying what she did with: "Those who are abused often go on to become abusers themselves" Which of course they never applied that reasoning to ANY man accused inside the movement.. Not only that.. but I can guarantee that if the boy she raped (calling it what it is) went on to become a predator.. they would NOT allow anyone to justify his actions on the fact that he was a victim when he was younger..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 08:15 AM
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Yep! and the kicker? What consequences did she face? None because she was never formally charged for what she did to Jimmy Bennett, instead paying him off with a settlement of $380,000 (Which i'm sure ex-husband actually paid) She's still getting acting roles! But I don't hear or see feminists protesting the fact that she was a sexual predator the same as Weinstein and didn't go to jail...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 08:13 AM
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Yeah its fucking insane.. she used full on DARVO tactics to try and paint the boy she had sex with as the "Offender" And honestly I'm convinced that this situation played a factor in Anthony's death... But by far the worst part of all of this was how the #MeToo movement responded.. This was THE movement to bring rapists and sex pests into the light and hold them accountable.. But, what happened when Asia got #MeToo'd? Did they ostracize her? Did they hold her accountable to the same scrutiny and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 08:09 AM
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Remember Asia Argento? one of the leaders of #MeToo and someone who leveled an accusation against Harvey Weinstein? She also got #MeToo'd by young boy actor, worse than that she tried to silence him with hush money.. you know.. the same thing they accused Harvey Weinstein of doing... Now i'm not going to boldly say that every woman who calls out men is projecting.. But the phrase: "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones" comes to mind. The worst part about all of this is just lik…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 04:11 AM
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And how often has a man said he didn't want too and yet a woman still forced him anyway? We don't know because people don't care when men are the victims...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 02:37 AM
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So, the labor party is saying they can't elect women to be their leaders based on their own merits.. Yet in New Zealand we've had MULTIPLE female leaders of the Labor party and three of those female leaders have been prime ministers... TL;DR: This is what the younger generations would classify as a "Skill Issue" to me..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 10:58 PM
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And, to rub salt in the wound here.. New Zealand has had THREE female prime ministers, and all of them were leader of the Labor party..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 10:55 PM
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You mean like when there was the uproar over the supposed "Rape Academy" They totally did not fudge the numbers at all when they posted about that now did they? Yeah.. absolutely NOTHING to be skeptical about regarding the reporting of the supposed "Rape Academy" right? /S Also as I mentioned in another comment, many of the "Strategies" brought up in this study are also utilized by women.. But we're not the ones out here saying "91% of women admit to raping men" now are we?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 10:53 PM
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It should be, but it wont Because "Men making the first move" is a privilege women have enjoyed since the dawn of time.. and they aren't about to give that up anytime soon.
/r/MensRights03/08/26 09:10 PM
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It would also help if the questions weren't biased or massaged in such ways as to generate the results they were looking for...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 09:08 PM
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So the sample size was 2,689 men.. which is a decent size.. but its also like 0.0001% of the total population of a country Hell that sample size is barely 0.1% the population of reasonably sized city.. To make extrapolations based on this sample size is utter madness.. Also, the strategies are misleading as the Tinman said.. many of them are not what they are painting them to be "Started undressing before she was ready" for example I fail to see how that is a "Strategy" to force sex.. sounds to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 07:59 PM
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I think the problem is, Feminism and Feminists have focused on "Removing women's gender roles / expectations" which is fine.. Yet they still expect men to be held to the traditional gender roles expected of them. Classic examples: - Men are still expected to make the first move, men are expected to take all the risk in initiating courting with a woman and is expected to take on the full risk of being rejected. And, if he is rejected he's expected to handle it with dignity and grace.. Yet i've se…
/r/MensRights03/08/26 07:48 PM
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Women are generally not believed in court and in general. So idk grow up guys!!! We have Rape Shield laws which protect WOMEN who make accusations of sexual assault / rape Their identities are kept anonymous regardless of the outcome of the trial.. Defense attorneys are not allowed to bring up a woman's prior sexual history or her social media messages / text messages etc.. Yet the Prosecution are allowed to bring ALL of those points up as evidence against the man being accused. If a woman DOES …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 07:16 AM
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But there’s so many women who just don’t talk about it at all. It just seems goofy to fixate on it like it’s an epidemic of women just lying about rape to punish men or something. Of course some women will lie. People will do anything for attention. But fixating on it isn’t the move. And how many men do you think "don't talk about it at all" or are even more not believed compared to women.. or who are only considered "Victims" if the person who raped them shares their gender? Because all of that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 07:10 AM
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I'm gonna have to politely disagree with you there.. There are many reasons for women to lie about being raped - Revenge - Social Clout - Victimhood Points - Attention Now, to be clear here I'm NOT saying that ALL women lie about their sexual assaults, nor do I think for a moment even a majority of them do it.. But sadly there ARE women who have or will lie about being sexually assaulted or raped. Also the whole"because often even when they share it people don’t believe them." In the past I coul…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/26 11:02 PM
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And the resources of the authorities involved, Bomb Squad, Officers who could have been elsewhere etc..
/r/MensRights02/08/26 09:39 PM
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Yeah, I saw this video a few days ago.. Its not just the man she accused who is affected by her lies.. There were many innocent people who had their plans delayed or ruined because of her selfish actions.. And when she got arrested she STILL continued to claim that "She" was the victim here... And i'm sure there will be feminists out there who try to justify what she did as "Oh well, she clearly has some mental disorders / issues" or "It wasn't her fault, a man MADE HER do it!" etc...
/r/MensRights02/08/26 07:32 PM
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Once again, I agree with you that forcing women to cover up completely from head to toe is wrong. I'm not sure how much more clear I can make that point... What i'm pointing out here is how your ONE example is not universal and that yes, men also have their dress code in the workplace dictated / enforced. Men are not allowed to wear shorts in the summer with their business suit.. women are allowed to wear skirts with their business suit.. I'm sorry but you still have yet to successfully argue yo…
/r/MensRights02/08/26 04:22 AM
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Well, given the police did an investigation and had enough evidence to arrest her and charge her with the crimes.. Also I think the dude had a Ring doorbell camera as well.. It sure does seem like what happened was the guy came home after drinking, didn't shut the door fully / thought he had but it the latch didn't catch.. He orders some Wendys, sits down on the couch and at some point his underwear fell down and he zonked out She arrives and instead of following the instructions she notices the…
/r/MensRights02/08/26 04:07 AM
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Your icon looked very similar to the person I was responding to So I guess ignore the part where I mentioned the previous list in the OPC's comment My point still stands that I never claimed any of the things I brought up were due to "Misandry" that's an assumption you think I was making but I never claimed that. Also I agree with your example, but the counter to it is that in many western countries men who work in office buildings often have much more strict dress codes compared to women often …
/r/MensRights02/08/26 04:01 AM
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That's your opinion.. I also NEVER stated that the issues I brought up are "Because of Misandry" That is you putting words in my mouth The list I provided was more to show to you that being a man in today's society is not the "Silver Spooned Privilege Club" to seem to be making it out to be. You were literally trying to list points that make it seem like men are "Privileged" even though I debunked each of your points
/r/MensRights02/08/26 03:23 AM
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Both of her charges are iirc are Class E felonies and each charge carries a maximum prison sentence of 4 years.. So if they threw the book at her she would be looking at 8 years in prison.. But its more likely she'll get a plea deal which includes probation, community service and a small fine.
/r/MensRights02/08/26 03:19 AM
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I'm actually legitimately interested to see what her defense attorney's arguments for dismissing her case are.. The evidence against her regarding the charges is crystal clear.. Its not like the cops arrested the wrong person here.. She deserves to be made an example of! But my guess is, assuming the defense fails in their attempt to have the case dismissed they will instead push for a plea deal likely the deal will involve her not going to jail and instead getting a sentence of probation and co…
/r/MensRights02/08/26 03:01 AM
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So.. instead of wanting the best person for the job.. They want to focus on ideology.. If they go ahead with this will the woman who becomes the leader believe she got that position because she's the best person for the job? Or was it because she's a woman and they are simply ticking a box? And yet, of course if we were to suggest that maybe a MAN should hold the position of "Minister for Women" that would be a completely different situation right?
/r/MensRights02/08/26 12:55 AM
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In short, no, we as men can never win.. Men who manage to conform to the rigorous requirements needed to successfully date in today's society will be told they have achieved the "Bare minimum" required while being expected to go above and beyond even these insane double standards and gender roles.
/r/MensRights01/08/26 09:31 PM
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My analogy is that the dating market / pool / scene for men is like trying to navigate a minefield, blind folded while getting conflicting messages on which way to step. One wrong move, you step on a landmine (Get labeled a creep) And if you somehow manage to luck your way through the minefield then you still have to have a triple PHD in "Women's Body Language" otherwise you also run the risk of being labeled a "Creep" Also, not only does society expect men to "Make the first move" but it also e…
/r/MensRights01/08/26 09:09 PM
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I agree that she has the ability down the line to turn it into "Sexual Assault" but the OP's claim in the title of the post is misleading She did not cry "Rape" or "Sexual Assault" she simply said "Assault" She's still a piece of shit for even claiming he falsely assaulted her but OP is trying to rage bait hard with the title of their post.
/r/MensRights01/08/26 08:56 PM
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Yeah, OP is totally rage baiting here with the title of their post.. They claimed she falsely accused the man of "Sexually Assaulting" her when that's not what happened at all. Just look at my original comment on this thread where they tried to call me out for pointing out how the title of the thread is factually wrong and in their words: You know, I wondered if anyone would say that ridiculous comment. OK, riddle me this batman? If the assault was not sexual assault, then what other kind of ass…
/r/MensRights01/08/26 07:45 PM
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There is actually a fucking difference you pleb. Assault as it is commonly defined is the act of punching, pushing or otherwise laying your hands on someone without their consent. Sexual Assault is specific as well. She may be INFERRING that he "Sexually Assaulted" Me but she never actually stated he SEXUALLY Assaulted her Which does actually matter.. The facts don't care about how you feel about something.. What you said in your title was an outright LIE and I will fucking call it out. That doe…
/r/MensRights01/08/26 07:42 PM
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Sure.. she was caught falsely accusing a man of assault (not sexual assault) but did she face any tangible consequences for lying? No.. she did not.. Yet if there was no video evidence of what actually happened the man stood to lose EVERYTHING on an accusation alone.. But remember guys "False Accusations are extremely rare" /S
/r/MensRights01/08/26 08:55 AM
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And when those boys grow up and believe they are entitled to sex because of their experience when they were younger? What then? Do you then justify them raping a woman because of their experience? The fact that YOU can not see the direct harm this sort of thing causes, that doesn't mean it doesn't cause harm.
/r/MensRights31/07/26 10:37 PM
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Absolutely.. When they are prejudiced or bigoted towards men its always justified as "Punching Up" or as "The oppressed lashing out against their oppressors" Every other day it feels like there's a new justification invented to justify the bigotry / double standards against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 08:04 PM
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The problem is.. they truly believe that all the generalizing, demonizing and shaming IS supposed to "Get men on their side" The idea is that the "Good" men who have done nothing wrong should realize that they aren't talking about "Them" and so those men should be their "Allies" (Read: Whipping Boys) They have no idea what an "Alliance" actually is and have this notion that men being their "Allies' means men agreeing with what ever they say and sitting there mutely while they are berated, genera…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 08:39 AM
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Across the ditch in New Zealand we had one of the Green Party co-leaders Marama Davidson said: “I am a violence prevention minister and I know who causes violence in the world, it is white, cis men.” Link to an article about it Despite her disgusting, racist and sexist claim / statement she faced ZERO consequences for it.. (She is also factually wrong) She said what she said to incite racial / gender based discrimination against a specific sub-set of the population.. But despite that the NZ Huma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 12:49 AM
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And of course they walked it back trying to claim it wasn't about shaming boys etc.. But in reality it was a test case to see how the public would react.. Now they know they need to be more subtle in their pushing of their narrative of "Boys / Men, Bad! Girls / Women Good!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/26 08:03 PM
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Instead of framing it as "Free Stuff" I point out: And who benefits / has more access to tax funded social safety nets? Safety nets which are funded by the higher tax men pay for EARNING more.. It helps to balance the conversation and show that even if women on average earn less than men they still benefit from it overall
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/26 08:01 PM
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I'm not 100% defending him either but.. something you seem to not have taken into account here is the fact that he was clearly the bread winner in the family.. So you then have him trying to deal with what his partner is going through / saying while also balancing going to work to earn money to support the family.. Its not like he can constantly say to his boss: "Sorry, I can't come into work today, my wife is having a psychotic episode" And as someone said, its easy to judge with the benefit of…
/r/MensRights30/07/26 07:56 PM
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The point you are missing here is.. the fact that women are being "Paid" the same amount of prize money that the men get despite objectively playing overall LESS tennis is being lorded as some sort of victory for "Equality" when its decidedly the opposite.
/r/MensRights30/07/26 06:31 AM
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Men make more than women in the same jobs. Are you comparing like for like? and controlling for factors like Men being willing to commute 2+ hours a day for a higher paying job or more likely to work over time than women? Abortion is not legal in this country. I assume you are referring to America (Btw, America is not the only country on the planet) but while I disagree with this, Men also have no legal right / way to give up their parental responsibilities.. Women can put the child up for adopt…
/r/MensRights30/07/26 06:30 AM
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Let me put it to you this way.. Imagine for a moment an article came out that started spouting off reasons why men don't consider women up to their standards when it comes to dating / marrying.. You can BET that feminists would be tearing the article apart and calling it out as "Misogyny" or claiming that "Men having standards is misogynistic" etc.. But yet its perfectly okay for women to have standards and expect men to meet those standards?
/r/MensRights29/07/26 06:23 AM
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Have you stopped to consider for a moment that due to things like the Duluth Model of Domestic Violence and the fact that in many countries the crime of "Rape" is gender coded to be a crime that ONLY MEN can be charged with MIGHT just influence the numbers when it comes to victims? Top that off with the FACT that women are flat out less likely to be arrested, charged and convicted of violent crimes compared to men and it makes sense why the statistics seem to paint a picture of one directional v…
/r/MensRights27/07/26 09:28 PM
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And if a male artist were to ask "All black women to step back" would that also not be discrimination? We both know for a FACT it would 100% be taken as discrimination So why it is okay to be discriminatory towards "White Men" but not "Black Women"? And to be clear I think ALL forms of discrimination are bad
/r/MensRights27/07/26 09:21 PM
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I think the way you should look at this group is that primarily its a group advocating for men's rights from a left wing perspective / slant. However, MaleLeftWingAdvocates does not flow as nicely as "LeftWingMaleAdvocates" does.. Also I would say that the group is not strictly "Left Wing" as i'm sure there are many centrist / or left of center people here and even a few disenfranchised Right Wing people.. The point is.. we don't want this place to become an echo chamber by limiting it to strict…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/26 04:22 AM
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While I agree women absolutely have done that, would debate to the end of time the majority of people who do this and engage in this behavior are men. I disagree, I think men and women engage in this at equal rates to be honest with you. I am always baffled at how often men refuse to seek out support through male support groups, therapy, group therapy, There are many men who attempt therapy but it does not work for them Mainly because Therapy has been tailored to suite / meet the needs of women …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 08:24 PM
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The hotline points out that Straat did not make any offensive remarks about white men. “The call only concerned one short, one-off mosh pit for these groups. Visitors were not refused entry to the concert.” Discriminatie.nl will not take any further steps at this time. That's how it starts though.. it ALWAYS starts with "one short / one-off" instance of sexism / racism.. Then emboldened by the fact that they faced no consequences for it previously it keeps escalating until we're told "This is si…
/r/MensRights25/07/26 08:18 PM
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The dildo of consequences rarely comes with lube as they say.. She made a flat out sexist AND racist demand and now she's coping flack for it and is spinning it all around to he being the "Victim" Typical fare from here type to be honest..
/r/MensRights25/07/26 08:06 PM
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Anywho - what I tend to see happen is… women will be sharing experiences of pain and suffering with one another about let’s say being molested by a male uncle, cousin, or being raped by a close male friend, etc. This would be an inappropriate time to insert yourself in the conversation and say things such as “men get raped and molested too.” And i've seen the opposite happen as well where a bunch of men are discussing the Male Suicide rate and a woman butts into the conversation with "But women …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 08:01 PM
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Bringing attention to the psychological harm of patriarchy on men (e.g. bell hooks) So.. blaming men for the psychological harm we as men face? Generally fighting against gender roles, which includes liberating men from limiting roles and harmful stereotypes Except for gender roles that benefit women.. like say, expecting men to pay for all dates, or to be protectors of women etc.. They don't seem to keen on dismantling those particular gender roles... In a counter argument to you OP.. Feminists…
/r/MensRights25/07/26 05:28 AM
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My point is, do you understand the other perspective? Hard to understand the "other perspective" when that perspective is: "Women only spaces / times are fine" "Men only spaces / times are problematic"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 05:19 AM
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I can't! You have proven to me that your dick and balls and your bruised ego are more important to you than the love for a child you raised! I am the psychotic one?! Why are you constantly placing ALL RESPONSIBILITY AND BLAME ON MEN!? Seriously.. I have YET to see you acknowledge that women are even responsible in the first place in these situations... Also.. how original for you to question someone's sexuality... Are low brow ad hominem attacks REALLY the best you can do?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/26 09:54 AM
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And do you think there might be a reason WHY he didn't want to press charges? I'll give you a hint.. because the moment he presses charges is the moment his partner turns on the water works and DARVO's it back onto him being the abuser...
/r/MensRights24/07/26 07:44 AM
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The dildo of consequences rarely comes lubed. I LOVE this.. and i'm stealing it! You are also correct, This is firmly in the "Fuck around, Find out" category of life.. Women have spent decades fucking around (Shitting on men, generalizing ALL men etc) and now they are finding out, Men not wanting to form relationships with them or get married etc. Men have been getting a raw deal for a long time now and now, more and more men are waking up and realizing it.. We keep seeing articles about the dec…
/r/MensRights23/07/26 01:57 AM
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Firstly, I'd like to say BIG kudos to you for taking the time to crunch the numbers there. I also love how your numbers are overly generous towards the misandristic feminist perspective.. But even with that generosity.. it still confirms what i've been saying for decades now: "Ultimately the majority of sexual based crimes are caused by what is actually less than 1% of ALL men" Now, I expect that once this post starts getting cross posted to different subs, you WILL get feminists trying to tear …
/r/MensRights22/07/26 08:34 PM
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This is the only way they will learn.. By realizing that actions have consequences.. They are riding their high of "Male Bashing" and "Misandry" now.. They have spent decades turning Divorce into an industry for women.. But when they want a man to marry them they are finding out that men are waking up, realizing that we are getting a raw deal in society and especially in marriage and are simply refusing to play the game anymore..
/r/MensRights22/07/26 08:25 PM
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Or when a woman comes home to find her partner cheating on her and she gets a knife or shears and cuts off his genitals.. People will often praise her actions with "Yas Kween!" or "Well clearly that was a valid response" Yet.. if you reverse the genders and it was a man coming home to find his partner cheating on him and then he mutilated her genitals for it.. there would be ZERO justification for it and he would be expected to be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law... Our society …
/r/MensRights22/07/26 08:21 PM
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I've seen this happen.. A man being attacked by a woman on the streets, people stand there recording / laughing and saying "I wonder what HE did for her to attack him like that" or "He must have done something to deserve it" etc.. Yet, flip the genders and say the exact same thing would be called out as misogynistic hate speech.. and people would say that there is NEVER any justification for violence against women.. (but apparently there are plenty of justifications for violence against men..)
/r/MensRights22/07/26 08:18 PM
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It is depraved of a man to abandon a child that is not 'his' by blood but whom he has previously, up until that moment, allegedly 'loved' and cared for. For years. Out of curiosity.. why do you place all responsibility / blame on men in these situations? Where's the accountability for the woman who CHEATED on him LIED about it and then continued to LIE / GASLIGHT him into believing the child was his? Why do you expect men to "Suck it up" and deal with the situation they have been dealt by keepin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 08:11 PM
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Or just look at the hysteria feminists tried to kick up with the whole "Rape Academy" thing.. Where they were taking an aggregate number of visitors to a website and conflating that to be individual users.. They didn't even remotely entertain the notion that many of those numbers would be repeat viewers... And that's the point.. they defend to the death statistics which align with their dogmatic viewpoints.. and expend herculean efforts to smoother / dismiss statistics which refute their establi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 08:04 PM
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Isn't it amazing that, when a statistic comes up that paints women in a negative light Feminists are all over it trying to debunk it or trying to claim we need "Nuance" when looking at the statistic or even saying "You can't base opinions / policies on statistics" Yet.. when it comes to statistics that paint men in a negative light... Well then.. we don't need "Nuance" or to look deeper into the statistic.. nope! The statistic in those cases are the pure 100% unvarnished truth of the matter and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 06:01 AM
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Don't you just love the irony here? How do we defeat sexism / discrimination? Clearly the answer is by being sexist / discriminating against men!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 02:01 AM
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Ah yes.. the whole "I don't want to raise future rapists and so its perfectly acceptable to considering aborting the child all together" argument.. Note as well how this is always EXCLUSIVELY a choice / decision women get.. There is no choice or decision for men.. If a woman is having a girl, he has no say in it.. If a woman is having a boy.. she has every right to choose to birth it or abort it... Its so fucked up..
/r/MensRights22/07/26 01:54 AM
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This is something I bring up all the time.. People overlook how often women will recruit or as you say outsource their violence to "Other Men" Hell this is readily seen when you get people chirping in about how the violence men face is often at the hands of "Other Men" There is also a massive downplay when it comes to the "Softer" forms of violence.. As a society we are so hyper fixated on "Physical" violence that we ignore the prevalence of "Emotional" or "Mental" violence (of which I would be …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/26 10:25 PM
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Or for me, the fact that I have been abused by multiple women in my life means that by the same logic they use.. I should be fully justified in generalizing ALL women based on my lived experiences.. I should be fully justified in being cautious or wary around women I don't know because in their own words: "I can't tell at a glance which women will be friendly towards me and which will try to hurt me" But when I bring this up I get told "Its not the same!" or that i'm giving off "Incel" vibes or …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/26 10:19 PM
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Well, when you've been brainwashed into believing that ALL men are rapists regardless of things like facts or evidence.. what do you expect? But oh yeah don't worry.. False Rape Accusations are actually "Extremely Rare" according to feminists.. not only that but men who are falsely accused don't actually suffer much if any harm apparently... Or some feminists out there believe that False Accusations are a good thing and that a man who is falsely accused can use it as a learning experience.. They…
/r/MensRights21/07/26 10:15 PM
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I have no trouble at all emphasizing with women in the United States losing the ability to have access to safe abortions.. Or how the fact that because only women can get pregnant, they are more likely to end up putting their careers on hold to raise the child / children. I can completely empathize with these and other issues.. However, from my perspective.. it feels like our society is hyper focused / fixated on "Women's Issues / Struggles" to the point that bringing up any issue that we as men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/26 09:13 AM
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I don't have the stats on hand but i'm pretty sure i've seen stats that show that women are more likely to face "Violence" (Rape, Assault, Murder etc) at the hands of men they know intimately (Family, Partner, Boyfriend, Work colleague etc) compared to a complete stranger.. Now, this does not automatically mean that every stranger is 100% safe.. However, given feminists and their love of taking statistics at face value (Rape / Domestic Violence statistics especially) One could make the argument …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/26 05:21 AM
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‘misandry’ is supposedly ‘exponentially higher’ because misandry is characterised by misogynists as feminism or feministic ideologies a person holds. Misandry is not systematic. Misandry is the direct response to systematic misogyny, the patriarchy and systems discriminating and oppressing women. You seem to be implying here that Misandry can ONLY flow in the direction of women towards men.. Also.. how is Misandry NOT "Systematic" when we can literally point out the SYSTEMS that are flat out dis…
/r/MensRights20/07/26 05:13 AM
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Do you think a man would want a paternity test if it would expose him as a cheater? This does not make any sense at all.. How would a man taking a paternity test reveal HIM to be a cheater? What you fail to understand here is short of the following situations: 1) A Paternity Test 2) Locking a woman up and making sure you are the only one who has sex with her There is no way for a man to KNOW the child / children are his from a biological standpoint Because the woman is the one giving birth she A…
/r/MensRights19/07/26 06:28 PM
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In America, if men want to exercise the right to vote, or get a drivers license or get federal aid (Student loan) or a federal job they MUST also agree to be drafted.. Women get all of those benefits without any of the associated responsibilities.. Also there was a bill recently that would have made it mandatory for women to also be drafted. And it was FEMINISTS who protested with the slogan: "Don't Draft our Daughters" and claiming "No one should be drafted" But of course, once the bill was def…
/r/MensRights19/07/26 10:09 AM
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So then.. the government could force women to agree to be be "Conscripted" to become pregnant to replace the lives of men lost in war right? That would be an equal service yes?
/r/MensRights19/07/26 10:06 AM
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Just because 30% of fathers who get paternity tests find out they are not the father of the child / children that doesn't automatically equate to "70% of men are trying to avoid financial and parental responsibilities though false allegations" That isn't how statistics work at all.. It's ironic how you bring up "Mis-representaiton" before mis-representing how statistics work...
/r/MensRights19/07/26 09:10 AM
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A man can not KNOW with 100% confidence that a child is his.. A woman ALWAYS knows that the child is 100% hers If a man is told by a woman, "We had a one night stand, I got pregnant and the child is yours" he has no way of knowing that to be true except for a paternity test being done. TL;DR: If a woman expects a man to pay for a child a paternity test should be require to prove the child is his, if the child is his then he should step up and be responsible for the child. If the test result is t…
/r/MensRights19/07/26 01:27 AM
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Really ALL sexism is caused by misogyny.. I think not.. Do you not think that SOME misogyny may be caused by misandry? Because I can guarantee it..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 06:51 AM
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Funny how that works isn't it? When its a statistic that paints women in a negative light its all "Oh, you don't understand the nuance behind the statistic" or "You're taking the statistic out of context!" But when its a statistic that paints men in a negative light its apparently the 100% unvarnished truth and and we aren't allowed to question it at all.. Case in point.. look at how often the "Men commit the majority of rape" statistic is brought up as though it is a verified and indisputable f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/26 09:38 PM
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Honestly.. that's my goal when I respond to people like him. My aim isn't to get that specific person to change their mind.. I'm more shutting down the arguments they are using on the hope that the lurkers will realize that their arguments are not what they are made out to be. Or at least to engage their critical thinking skills. For example, my hope is that people will take what I said about Rape being a gendered crime and go look it up and realize that yes.. it very much is a gendered crime.. …
/r/MensRights14/07/26 06:52 PM
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To be clear, there is a very big difference between a depressed and lonely man taking his life as he sees no way out of his pain versus an abuser who takes his life (often in front of his partner) with the end goal of causing her as much pain and guilt as possible. Not according to the people in the screenshot apparently...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/26 05:59 PM
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The problem is, how easy it is to chalk up a man killing himself to "Misogyny" And to be clear i'm not saying the situation in the OP doesn't happen because it at some point must happen. But the danger here is they are trying to warp things and make it seem like every single time a man commits suicide its an act of "Misogyny" against women.. Yet of course when a woman is actually suicidal and is successful no one dares call it "Misandry" because that would be disgusting.. I can imagine situation…
/r/MensRights14/07/26 10:21 AM
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So.. if I as a man can not afford my own house (given the current economy that's not surprising) and I am in a long term flatting situation and I happen to flat with the same woman for 3 years.. the UK government can consider me "In a relationship" with the woman i'm flatting with and as such if she moves out she then gets half my stuff, savings, pension etc.. even though we may have never had an actual relationship at all? Yeah.. that totally seems fair... Or even worse case.. I move into a fla…
/r/MensRights12/07/26 11:26 PM
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Or just look at what happened a year or so ago when a woman had her purse snatched and as she quoted: "Three men just stood there and did nothing about it!" The expectation was that these 3 strange men who she didn't know were to be white knights and leap to her aid / defense and attack the mugger / get her purse back.. And the men who did nothing were absolutely lambasted by many women.. called "Cowards" and "Losers" etc... Its yet another example of "Expectations for He, not for She"
/r/MensRights12/07/26 09:09 AM
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This is the answer
/r/MensRights12/07/26 04:32 AM
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And you know what you are saying is hard to sell when you are equating what SOME men have done to MEN as a whole right? You do understand what the Apex Fallacy is yes?
/r/MensRights12/07/26 12:30 AM
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Okay.. so Feminists are "Not violent" at all.. apparently.. So explain Erin Pizzey and how she got bomb and death threats and was essentially forced to move countries BY FEMINISTS because she DARED to go against the dogmatic rhetoric and claim that women can be just as violent as men.. Or how feminists in the #MeToo movement were calling for men accused to be cancelled / "Brought to justice" but when one of their own, one of the LEADERS of the movement Asia Argento was Me Too'd by a younger man.…
/r/MensRights11/07/26 11:33 PM
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I don't think many feminists say we don't need mens rights, I think they say that these spaces just turn into mysognisitic incel breeding grounds that completely stop being "how do we help men with bodily autonomy in regards to circumcision, how do we build support for men leaving abusive relationships?" And do you HONESTLY think for a second that many of the feminists spaces out there don't devolve into dens of misandry where instead of focusing on "How can we make sure women get access to heal…
/r/MensRights11/07/26 11:17 PM
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Because when we do we get told "We don't need Men's Rights because Feminism is fighting for Men's Rights!" Or we get told we are "Doing it wrong" because we aren't looking at men's rights / issues "Through the lens of Feminism" And we are complaining that feminists aren't doing it because feminists are the ones claiming that we don't need men's rights because feminism is apparently supposed to be for men too! Yet despite their claims.. what we see in reality is the opposite, feminism ONLY cares …
/r/MensRights11/07/26 11:11 PM
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So.. sexual crimes are okay if the one committing them is "Hot"? That IS how your logic works here right?
/r/MensRights11/07/26 11:08 PM
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The point I think your missing here is.. you are jumping to the conclusion that JUST because the court found the man not guilty of rape.. that automatically means the women was lying / made a false accusation. Which is a dangerous path to take.. If however it can be proven that the did make a malicious false accusation against him then absolutely she SHOULD be held accountable.. In that situation her name should be revealed and posted for all to see. However its unlikely to happen, especially in…
/r/MensRights11/07/26 07:53 PM
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The problem with "Suing them into the stone age" is that in most cases they will be declared "Judgement Proof" so you'd spend a bunch of money getting a hollow victory.
/r/MensRights11/07/26 07:48 PM
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Well, technically all we know is that the court has stated that she wasn't raped by this particular man.. That doesn't automatically mean she wasn't raped at all.. They would still have to prove that she maliciously lied about being raped by the defendant before i'd agree to naming and shaming her. But I will say that it IS likely that this is another case of a false accusation
/r/MensRights11/07/26 07:46 PM
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"Sideline your own concerns to address ours" is a pretty big ask for a movement created so that women had recourse for their own issues, isn't it? Then why do feminists keep LYING about their movement being about "Equality" and "For men too?" Why do feminists constantly tell us "We don't need Men's Rights because Feminism is about Men's Rights!" Clearly they are lying right?
/r/MensRights11/07/26 07:44 PM
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Why would the feminist movement spend its time and effort fixing an issue cause by men? Why then do FEMINISTS keep declaring "Feminism is a movement for Equality!" and "Feminism is for Men too" when by your own admittance both of those statements are false? Men being conscripted for the army predates women being allowed to vote. Correct, men getting the right to vote was tied to the responsibility of fighting for king and country.. Yet women get ALL the same rights to vote that men do, without A…
/r/MensRights11/07/26 07:42 PM
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You are being down voted here but you are absolutely correct
/r/MensRights10/07/26 10:32 PM
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I as a man am already being vilified no matter what I apparently do.. So If my options are: 1) Do nothing and still get vilified 2) Reflect the generalizing I as a man receive back onto the ones generalizing me knowing that i'll till be vilified in the end Which option would you pick? Either way i'm still going to be vilified / generalized I know your expectation is that I pick option 1, which is what I have been doing for years on the hope that maybe something would change.. But no, nothing has…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/26 10:26 PM
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I don't want to.. But at this point it feels like we don't have much of a choice... Its just so frustrating that time and time again we are being told to "Be the bigger men" or that we are being held to a standard that women / feminists refuse to be held to.. At what point do we say enough is enough and start using feminist's own tactics against them? Because so far the "Be the bigger man" strategy hasn't changed anything has it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/26 08:08 PM
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I don't know what world you are living on.. but currently ALL men ARE lumped in with Andrew Tait or Donald Trump etc... Feminists do it all the time... They constantly generalize and vilify ALL men based on the actions of cherry picked bad men. But once again we are expected to be the "Better Men" and not do the same in return.. But despite us in general NOT doing the same thing back to women / feminists has that caused them to reflect on their stance and think "Hey, actually you know what, its …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/26 07:11 PM
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The problem is that we have taken the accusation to be proof of the claim.. Which is insane to say the least.. And anyone who dares speak up about this issue gets labeled a "Misogynist" But the thing is.. you can "Believe" what someone says while also waiting for evidence to back up what they have told you. The issue I find is that originally "Believe all women" was about not dismissing the claims women make out of hand. Which I agree with. However, like everything.. feminists have warped and ch…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/26 07:36 AM
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And the majority of false rape accusations are done by women.. Does this mean we as men are allowed to be prejudiced or discriminate against women and treat them all as liars? No, it doesn't! Also, "Most rapists are men" This is based solely on the fact that in most countries the crime of "Rape" is gender coded to be a crime that ONLY men can be charged with. So yeah.. no fucking shit, the majority of rapists according to the statistics are men because the statistics are biased. If women were he…
/r/MensRights10/07/26 12:08 AM
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Let me see if I can explain it.. If you swapped the genders on these t-shirts.. Would they be hand waved away as "Just jokes"? The answer is of course, no they wouldn't Women who have suffered violence at the hands of men would absolutely and rightfully so be outraged over t-shirts essentially mocking or minimizing the suffering they experienced.. Any store that tried to sell: "Girlfriend Beater" or "Woman Hater" shirts would be protested against with claims of "MISOGYNY!!!!!!!" and we'd have ne…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/26 10:06 PM
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Have you ever killed or raped a woman? I suspect not. So why then do you feel that the prejudice and hatred towards ALL men is deserved when the majority of us have done nothing wrong?
/r/MensRights09/07/26 09:58 PM
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I saw a substack where a guy crunched the numbers regarding one of the Tennis tournaments and how they are planning on giving women the same amount of prize money that the men get and how they are lauding this as "Progressive" Yet the guy did the math and worked out that on average, men are playing more tennis than the women do. Firstly women play best of 3 sets while men have to play best of 5 sets. he also noted that the viewer counts showed that more people were tuned in to watch the men's fi…
/r/MensRights09/07/26 10:39 AM
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That's your focus here? Not the fact that these sites ALLOW these shirts to be sold. Shirts where if the genders were reversed would ABSOLUTELY be taken down from the site... You also clearly missed the point.. The point was that he photoshopped the shirt onto the CEO to make a point.. The point being: He clearly has no problem with these shirts being sold on his platform so he might as well be wearing one...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/26 02:38 AM
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This is what gets me about this too.. If the designs were gender swapped feminists would be causing an uproar claiming the designs as evidence of "Misogyny Culture" or "Femicide Culture" and protesting / demanding Shopify / Etsy remove them.. But when the target is men... Oh its just "Satire" or "Punching up" And of course any man who gets up set by these shirts is "Fragile" and simply can not take a joke.... As a man who has been the victim of violence at the hands of women.. I find these shirt…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 09:24 PM
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Sure, However in my experience everyone who identifies as Feminist has held to the belief that our society was and still is a "Patriarchy" specifically designed to protect / benefit men at the cost / oppression of women. Regardless of what you say or what evidence you bring up to them to disprove this idea that men are universally "Privileged" or "Protected" by "The Patriarchy" they refuse to accept it. and instead often fall back on the tired trope of "Those are just examples of The Patriarchy …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 08:58 PM
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Honestly that wouldn't surprise me at all
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 09:16 AM
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And Lavinia Woodward got NO prison time after stabbing her boyfriend with a bread knife because she was studying to be a surgeon.. To be clear.. she was given a 10 month jail sentence but it was suspended for 18 months.. Which essentially meant they were not punishing her for her violent crime. All because of her "Promising future career" Or how about the case of Bhim Kohli in the UK in 2024 80 year old Bhim Kohli was fatally assaulted while walking his dog by a boy and a girl. The 13 year old g…
/r/MensRights08/07/26 09:15 AM
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but there is such a misguided tendency to blame women/feminism for these problems rather than acknowledge the major ways that MEN THEMSELVES perpetuate them. (most male sexual assault victims were assaulted by other men, this is a fact) When women / feminists have full control over the definition of "Rape" and have succeeded in having the definition twisted to be a crime that ONLY men can commit.. Then yes, it IS fair to blame them for that. The majority of false rape accusations are made by wom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 12:12 AM
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I doubt it... So long as the lies are for the betterment of women that's all that matters to them.
/r/MensRights07/07/26 11:10 PM
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All good, I also thought this was a bait post.. so I decided to do some digging as I was expecting the OP to be some sort of feminist concern troll.. So I can understand your hesitation.
/r/MensRights07/07/26 11:09 PM
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I've checked the OP's post history They pass the vibe check from what I can see This looks like bait but does not appear to be
/r/MensRights07/07/26 11:02 PM
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There needs to be way more acknowledgement of accepted statistics (like I'm sorry but women are not sexually assaulting men more than the other way around), proven biological differences between the sexes that lead to one-sided vulnerabilities (most men can overpower most women) and clear and proven power dynamics (the wage gap is real and men just hold more power globally). Firstly, the stats are not "accepted" especially when it comes to sexual or violent crimes. Take rape for example, the sta…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/26 10:57 PM
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Its a lie they use to make Feminism more palatable to the masses.. Plus, they can then claim: "If you aren't a feminist, that must mean you don't believe in equality!" They claim their movement is about "Equality" between men and women.. But at EVERY opportunity they've had to back up their claims with actions.. they have failed. Feminists have no problem in pushing for laws / policies which protect women and not men or which specifically punish men but not women For example, the crime of "Rape"…
/r/MensRights07/07/26 09:41 PM
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I prefer: "Rules for He, not for She" myself..
/r/MensRights07/07/26 09:05 PM
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Feminism has always been about freeing women from gender roles.. Feminists only care about free men from gender roles if those gender roles negatively affect women.. But the gender roles which women benefit from? No, they are quite happy to keep men locked into the gender roles that benefit them.
/r/MensRights07/07/26 08:57 PM
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You are correct.. I did mean Misandrist.. I think I was on auto pilot there..
/r/MensRights06/07/26 07:04 PM
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Firstly you point out how the statistics also show that of the violent crimes committed by men, the majority of those men are black. And then ask them: "Does that mean its okay to discriminate against black men and treat all black men as violent criminals?" They will get upset / offended because they know that stance would make them a racist. But don't let up, tell them that if that makes them a racist, then taking a step back and treating ALL men as violent criminals makes them a Misandrist The…
/r/MensRights05/07/26 09:04 PM
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Exactly! But its what they do on a daily basis!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 08:58 PM
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So you're a hypocrite? You are calling out men for "not acting" when you don't do anything either..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 05:30 AM
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Unironically I am actually extremely pro-choice And I agree that should mean that if women are given the ability to give up being parents, men should also get the same ability. But yeah.. the hypocrisy within the feminist movement is one of the biggest issues for me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 05:26 AM
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"Believe all women" should be more along the lines of "Don't simply dismiss a woman's claims" However the accusation its self should not be allowed to be used as evidence. There's a saying: "Trust, but verify" Essentially take what someone says at face value but verify what they have told you is correct before you take action.. And look, yes, there absolutely are going to be cases where a man is a violent abuser and the woman is divorcing him. However, The courts need to be ensuring that any acc…
/r/MensRights05/07/26 04:46 AM
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Feminists dig up much older stuff all the time.. If they are allowed to us things that happened in the past, why can't we?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 04:42 AM
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So this should be labeled and recorded as Androcide right? After all, the killer clearly has admitted that her hatred of men was a direct causal link to his death.. So now we get to go on a moral panic about "Androcide" and insisting that women who kill men have committed Androcide and should be punished harsher than just standard murder right? Because that is absolutely how feminists seem to be treating "Femicide" by implying that every single time a man kills a woman her gender is a massive co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 04:41 AM
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This Zero Sum way of thinking benefits absolutely nobody. Ironic given how often feminists say: "When you are accustomed to privilege, equality can feel like oppression" Sure does seem to me like feminists have no problem in treating equality as Zero Sum when it comes to women benefiting.. You can advocate for bodily autonomy for example by being against Male Circumcision whilst also supporting a woman’s right to choose. Also ironic given that the feminists who petitioned the United Nations to r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 04:29 AM
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Has the thought crossed your mind that the reason men don’t get as much support as women because we don’t have an organized structure teaching people about men’s struggles and advocating for better rights without bringing up women in the conversation? If you all here would focus on your own issues and find ways to help men in ways that wouldn’t involve or hurt women, I think it’d be a lot more useful. The problem is, we are only allowed to discuss the issues we as men face so long as we do it "T…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 04:26 AM
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And of course they will deny saying that they do.. But they know that if they are representing a mother going through divorce the easy win strategy is for the mother to make an accusation of violence.. Because it works.
/r/MensRights05/07/26 03:47 AM
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Well, firstly thank you for proving you did not read anything and have nothing constructive to add to this discussion. The study was done in NEW ZEALAND New Zealand is NOT the USA, we don't have "ICE" or "MAGA" here... If you had read even a fraction of the article linked in OP's post you would have seen where it listed the study was done at the University of Auckland in New Zealand..
/r/MensRights05/07/26 01:18 AM
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This is a fantastic list and very apt. I have to say that point 27 - Cherry Picking is especially rampant when it comes to feminists.. They LOVE to cherry pick statistics which support their narrative or induce a moral panic. Like the BS about men being in a "Rape Academy" Or they will try to use statistics to defend their points on why they believe women are justified in being cautious of "All" men while ignoring the statistics which clearly show that women are more likely to face violence at t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/26 11:01 PM
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Feminists are always complaining about "The Pay Gap" or how the majority of CEO's / board members are men (aka "The Glass Ceiling") And so they push for quotas for women to be put into higher levels of business / government etc.. But they don't push for quotas for women to get into jobs like Construction, Sewage Maintenance, Mining, Forestry, Garbage collection etc.. You know.. the dirty, dangerous and / or physically demanding jobs that men are simply expected to do.
/r/MensRights04/07/26 09:48 PM
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And there in lies the problem.. We are constantly told "Feminism is a movement for equality" Yet the focus of "Feminism" is on women and women's issues Its literally in the name of their movement.. And yet despite all of that, we are expected to believe that they are fighting for equality?
/r/MensRights04/07/26 09:43 PM
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From a brief glance I have some issues with this study.. Opposition to domestic violence prevention initiatives: Being opposed to initiatives helping prevent violence towards women in relationships This implies that domestic violence only happens in one direction, e.g. Men being violent towards women in relationships.. The problem here then is, if a man in the study disagrees with domestic violence prevention initiatives based on this he would likely be chalked up as "exhibiting toxic masculinit…
/r/MensRights04/07/26 05:27 AM
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And watch as the feminists dismiss the study or try to pick it apart or claim "Bias" etc... Meanwhile of course any "Study" done which affirms their positions is protected from criticism of examination....
/r/MensRights04/07/26 05:23 AM
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And without fail those who claim to be "Real" feminists inevitably end up parroting the same rhetoric / vitriol that the "Not real" Feminists use... This is most obvious when they say "Real feminists want to help men" or "Real feminists care about men's issues" All before spouting off how the issues we as men face are caused by "The Patriarchy" or "Toxic Masculinity" or simply the dreaded "Other Men"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/26 04:06 AM
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Oh.. i'm very much aware of that.. Still doesn't stop me being annoyed by that fact.
/r/MensRights04/07/26 04:01 AM
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A woman facing accountability at the level we expect men to be held to? I never thought i'd see the day... Its still disappointing that the media is reporting it as: "Sexually abusing" when they should be calling it what it is.. Rape.. But its a start
/r/MensRights03/07/26 11:58 PM
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Absolutely! Even worse is the fact that we as men are not allowed to use our previous bad experiences with women shape or perception of women as a whole (That's misogynistic) Yet we are constantly bombarded by "Well if you ask any woman you know they will tell you they have experienced violence at the hands of men" and this is thusly used as a perfectly reasonable justification for women to be cautious or wary of "ALL" men... Its a massive double standard to say the least.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/26 11:06 PM
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I was recently told on Reddit, "Ask any woman you know; they will have experienced male violence." Any objection to self-reported victimization is seen as hyper-skeptical and misogynistic And yet, if we were to tell women "Ask any man you know; they will have experienced abuse at the hands of women" And you'll be met with "Oh you are exaggerating" or "But women face more abuse than men do!" etc.. Also, to further riff on this idea of "Women need to be hyper vigilant of men" moral panic they have…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/26 10:15 PM
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The point is that feminism is NOT a movement for equality.. The claim that it stands for equality is nothing but PR spin to make it look good / be more palatable to the ignorant masses... Once they've hooked people in with the idea of "Fighting for equality" they can control the narrative until "Fighting for equality" becomes "Smashing the Patriarchy" and by extension blaming men for "The Patriarchy" They also use the claim of "Fighting for equality" to deflect blame or criticism of their moveme…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/26 10:57 AM
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It's not all that surprising to be honest.. Feminism and Feminists themselves have been doing their best PR spin's for decades now.. Usually by claiming "Feminism is a movement for equality so if you believe in equality that makes you a feminist!" The idea is to make people equate "Equality" with "Feminism" On the whole they tend to dislike the "Egalitarian" label precisely because it does not center "Women's Rights" or "Women's Issues" which is ironic because "Feminism" is specifically gendered…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/26 10:52 AM
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Will she go to prison? Most likely.. Will it be for the same length of time if a man had committed this crime? Lets just say I wouldn't hold my breath on that...
/r/MensRights02/07/26 08:19 PM
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And all of those women should rot in a cell for the rest of their fucking lives of course but they don’t represent what feminism actually is they are dirt stains who clearly don’t belive in equal rights. And when are feminists going to repeal the bullshit Duluth Model of Domestic Violence and have it replaced with a model based on facts and evidence instead of "feelings" and "Assumptions"? They aren't because despite the fact the model is completely debunked and broken it benefits women.. So why…
/r/MensRights02/07/26 08:11 PM
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Unequal sentencing is awful and prevalent of course but I wouldn’t say feminists nessasarly ignore it I mean when arguing against sexism a big thing is treat women like they’re capable women don’t get as much time because they’re seen as fragile which is sexist and yes misandrist because men get longer sentences. They ABSOLUTELY DO IGNORE IT because women BENEFIT form unequal sentencing.. Feminists in the UK want to take it even further and are pushing the UK to stop sending women to prison at a…
/r/MensRights02/07/26 08:07 PM
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Thank you for proving ALL of my points for me.. With each and every point I made instead of saying "Hey yeah you know... maybe we do need to also look into how women are a factor here" you instead do PR spin and once again turn it back around onto men.. Okay so let’s go over your main issues family court right why does it side with mothers so often because women have always been seen as the ones who should take care of the kids that’s the patriarchy that feminists want to get rid of. If "Feminis…
/r/MensRights02/07/26 08:00 PM
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I’m a feminist first and no it didn’t mean I hate men it just means I believe in equal rights Followed by: Focus on your actual issues male suicide rates are skyrocketing no it’s not women’s faults it’s because you can’t form for the most part deep emotional friendships because of a system that told you emotions are weak. Riiiiiight you don't "Hate" men but you see no problem in blaming men for the issues we as men face.. And look to be clear I'm NOT saying "Women are to blame for every single i…
/r/MensRights02/07/26 05:19 AM
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The point, which you have missed is how we constantly are told: "Feminism is a movement for equality!" And "Feminism is for men too" Now, if those statements were true that would be great and there would be no need for Men's Rights or Men's Advocates.. But we have multiple examples actions feminism / feminists have taken which completely debunk those claims. So please, give me ONE example of something feminism or feminists has ACTIVELY done for men.. I'll wait..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 08:46 PM
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First of all, as any movement through history feminism is not a single ideology. Except for the fact that without exception most if not all "Ideologies" that use the feminist label adhere to the idea that we live within a "Patriarchy" Specifically in the idea that we live in an Oppressor vs Oppressed dichotomy where men are the oppressors and women are the oppressed Thirdly, there is always a significant gap between the people behind the theory of a movement, and the masses that follows it. If y…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 08:42 PM
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I disagree with you there.. All discrimination is not "Positive" discrimination.. You can negatively discriminate against people with no positivity involved..
/r/MensRights01/07/26 08:22 PM
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The problem is.. you don't need to sign legal papers.. Governments are getting wise and realizing more and more men are waking up to the absolute insanity and raw deal that "Marriage" is... So now they are introducing laws where if a woman co-habitat's your living space for even up to 3 months you are considered legally in a "Civil Union" and thus she is entitled to the same legal rights if you separate..
/r/MensRights01/07/26 07:03 AM
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"We call for women and girls to be placed at the center of rescue efforts" According to those posters: "That doesn't mean ignore boys and men.." Except it absolutely does.. Because to "Center" something means to give it greater / more attention than anything else.. Ergo.. they are calling for women and girls to the be center of attention in regards to rescue efforts. And that can only happen if men / boys are ignored.. Remember this post by UN Women the next time a feminist says "Equality isn't …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 04:44 AM
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Yeah, Its been a busy day.. Edited my post to fix that
/r/MensRights01/07/26 04:38 AM
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In their minds Women are so wonderful that they would NEVER hurt their children like this... So rather than accept the truth its easier for them to make up a false narrative of "Well the father is clearly the one at fault here"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 12:11 AM
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Clearly i'm so absorbed in my Patriarchal Privilege that I completely overlooked that fact! /S Edit: Added the /S to ensure people are aware that i'm still being sarcastic
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 12:09 AM
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It absolutely is discrimination.. But its touted as "Positive Discrimination" so it's okay.. They justify it as balancing the scales due to "women being oppressed in the past.." But you don't fix discrimination by using discrimination..
/r/MensRights30/06/26 10:55 PM
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All I can say is.. my life has become so much more positive since I stopped focusing on / worrying about dating and relationships. If I want affection I can get it from a dog or cat... I'm just gonna sit here living my best life where the only one I have to focus on is me.. I absolutely can not understand why any sane man in this day and age would agree to get married considering how heavily the deck is stacked against us these days...
/r/MensRights30/06/26 10:24 PM
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Well OBVIOUSLY she was so battered and abused by her MALE partner that she was forced to murder two innocent children to protect them from her abusive MALE partner... /S (Seriously I can not highlight my sarcasm enough here) But yeah.. its shameful that when something like this happens we as a society are so deep in the sauce of women not being held accountable for their actions that we assume that when anything like this happens a MAN must ultimately be responsible for what happened...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 10:21 PM
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At the same time they act as though men go through a divorce, come out the other end completely fine with no issues at all.. All while ignoring the many men who end up living in a small apartment having to work 2-3 jobs just to earn enough to pay for: - The alimony to their ex-partner - Child Support (If they have children) - Supporting their own existence All while the ex partner is often still living in the family home and using the child support as supplemental income Or you have women who si…
/r/MensRights29/06/26 07:50 PM
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From the article: And now, Glass’s camps have a new challenge. The intoxicating pull of the manosphere – the hyper-online community led by men who tout misogynistic definitions of manliness – has given Glass a boisterous brigade of rivals. Vulnerability is out; after a few post-#MeToo years in the wilderness, the alpha male is back. With a vengeance. If there is a counterweight to the manosphere, this is it. Glass says her camps provide disillusioned men a better way forward. She works directly …
/r/MensRights29/06/26 06:56 AM
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Men are not marginalized, nor disenfranchised. They are literally in charge. And are doing a terrible job. I'm sorry but WHAT THE FUCK!? Men make up the majority of the homeless population (but apparently that doesn't count as being 'marginalized') Men make up the majority of work place fatalities.. Men are demonized, vilified and generalized on a daily basis (but men are totally not disenfranchised at all...) Also MEN as a whole are NOT "In Charge" an extremely small subset of men are in charge…
/r/MensRights29/06/26 06:50 AM
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So.. when men want sex we're all "Pests" and "Predators" But when we don't want sex we're "gay" or "weak" or "Pussies" etc.. Can't win at all can we?
/r/MensRights29/06/26 06:36 AM
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I've been making the same arguments for years now.. pointing out how men are playing more tennis, putting in more effort and bringing in more viewership than women in regards to tennis. But I was told that I was being a "Misogynist" or that I "Want to keep women oppressed" Or the classic: "When you are accustomed to privilege, equality can feel like oppression" I'm sorry.. but if "Women can do what men do" then clearly they can play best of 5 sets like men do right? But that's not going to happe…
/r/MensRights28/06/26 10:29 PM
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The organization is what ever they need it to be at any given moment.. When they need to focus on women the organization is a "Women's Organization" When they need to give lip service or appear to be for equality then the organization is "About equality"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/26 09:48 AM
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Murphy denied murder and said during a trial she did not harm Mr Self, claiming he had received the injuries prior to their stay in Clacton, to celebrate the defendant’s 40th birthday. Ah yes.. the classic "He had the injuries prior to me calling an ambulance" defense During the trial, which lasted nearly two months, Chelmsford Crown Court heard paramedics found “blood everywhere”, including walls, the floor, and ceilings. The fact that she could try and defend her actions as not murder despite …
/r/MensRights28/06/26 04:19 AM
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These days simply LOOKING in the general direction of a woman and making eye contact makes you a "Misogynist" if she feels uncomfortable.. I've accepted for a long time now that the label of "Misogynist" will likely be applied to me.. It doesn't bother me at all
/r/MensRights28/06/26 04:08 AM
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I agree that it is disturbingly common.. There are divorce lawyers out there who tell their clients to fabricate claims of abuse or sexual assault against their partners to gain custody of the kids (thus getting child support) and to get a bigger share of the assets from the divorce.. And all the while feminists snidely sit there and claim "Men don't fight for custody of their children" Ignoring the fact that many fathers DO fight but due to court costs they run our of money and literally can no…
/r/MensRights28/06/26 04:05 AM
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It is dumb.. However as per what our society has dictated.. No matter how violent a woman is being towards a man if he so much as pushes her or even tries to restrain her he is automatically labeled the "Abuser" This is the end result of multiple generations being brought up being told: "Boys aren't allowed to hit girls" Many women take this with them into adulthood and then are of the belief that they are allowed to hit men because men aren't allowed to hit them back.
/r/MensRights28/06/26 03:57 AM
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The correct answer here is: Your lived experience is not representative of the majority lived experience of men. If you ever get arrested and charged with a crime I guarantee you will see first hand the bias and discrimination within the legal frame work towards men I have personally felt systemic discrimination based on my gender all the way back in high school where I got lower marks than the girls despite my work being on par with what they had done. I've had women at the park / mall look at …
/r/MensRights28/06/26 01:33 AM
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And meanwhile the feminists in the back row sit there and claim: "Men don't get custody of their children because they don't fight for it!" And when men DO fight for custody of their children and win shit like this happens.. I feel absolute sorrow for what this father is going through He must feel extremely helpless knowing that he did everything the right way through the correct legal channels and yet despite all of that the system failed and allowed his children to come to harm.
/r/MensRights28/06/26 01:27 AM
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And men do the majority of the hard labor, building homes, infrastructure, keeping the power on etc.. How well do you think women would handle all of that?
/r/MensRights28/06/26 12:38 AM
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"The Future Is Female" - Feminists So this reaction by the largest feminist organization does not surprise me..
/r/MensRights27/06/26 11:06 PM
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why did he not leave as soon as he saw what she was? Firstly, this is victim blaming, its not okay when people say it about women who are victims of abuse and so its not okay to say it about men either. However in answer to your question.. It can be very hard to escape from an abuser.. Often times they have exerted large levels of control over your life. For example, if she controlled his access to money, then without money it makes it harder to escape. She also shank / limited his social circle…
/r/MensRights27/06/26 10:09 PM
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“The government policy is that if you are a male victim of domestic abuse, you are officially classed as being a victim of abuse against women. It’s wrong and makes it harder for male victims to be recognised in their own right.” Yeah.. no wonder men are so reluctant to share their experiences with domestic violence in the UK.. First they need to get over the hurdle of actually being believed, then they have their suffering minimized and used to fuel the agenda of "Violence against women" “A lot…
/r/MensRights27/06/26 10:02 PM
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I'm saving this so the next time a feminist spouts of about how "Feminism is a movement for equality" I can shove this in their face and force them to explain how prioritizing women and girls is "Equality" Dear feminist lurkers out there This right here is a perfect example of what we are fighting against.. We agree that Men, Women, Boys, Girls, Trans, Non-binary etc deserve to be treated as equally as possible.. But here is one of if not THE largest FEMINIST organization in the world calling fo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 08:03 PM
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To any lurking feminists out there.. This is a FEMINIST organization which is calling for women and girls to get preferential treatment / rescue over men / boys.. But hey lets just ignore that because "Feminism is a movement for equality" right? And nothing says "Men and Boys are equal to Women / Girls" by treating them as expendable losses...
/r/MensRights27/06/26 07:53 PM
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Its literally in the X / Twitter.. "We call for women and girls to be placed at the center of rescue efforts and immediate humanitarian response" They literally are calling for women and girls to be prioritized in the rescue efforts...
/r/MensRights27/06/26 07:51 PM
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Please explain to me why we should allow women to define what is "Toxic Masculinity" and what is "Positive Masculinity" If they want to go down that road then obviously we as men would then be allowed to define what "Toxic Femininity" is and what "Positive Femininity" is right? That is how their logic works right? Except you and I both know that's not how it works at all The problem here is, the "Positive" masculinity they are promoting is essentially gender roles / traits which are beneficial t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 02:27 AM
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Definition of Misogyny: hatred of, aversion to, or prejudice against women No where in that definition does it explicitly state that only men can be misogynistic.. Women can absolutely be misogynistic and men can absolutely be misandrist. Both of course can also be sexist.
/r/MensRights26/06/26 09:39 PM
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Off the top of my head I'd say the abortion bans in the USA would be an example of this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/26 08:30 PM
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The honest answer is: Because they want men to be held accountable to a standard that they refuse women to be held to.. They want the sole focus in society to be on "Misogyny" hence why the constantly down play Misandry while hyping up Misogyny.. Whats even more hilarious is the claim "Misandry only hurts feelings" which then if men bottle up their feelings they get called out as exhibiting "Toxic Masculinity" and if men call out the Misandry they experience online / offline they get called cry …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/26 08:27 PM
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Now.. to be clear.. Twitter isn't exactly an accurate snap shot when it comes to reality.. But it is rather fascinating that despite the claims of feminists saying that men are the "Misogynists" the study showed that women on Twitter (and I would assume on other social media platforms) are actually more misogynistic than men. That doesn't mean there aren't misogynistic men out there or that misogyny is actually something women do to themselves.. There are absolutely many misogynistic men out the…
/r/MensRights26/06/26 08:23 PM
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Once again I feel like I need to ask: "Why are women allowed to define what masculinity is and which versions are 'Toxic' and which are 'Positive'"? After all I thought the argument was "No uterus, no opinion" Aka, if you aren't a woman you don't get to comment on things intrinsically linked to being a woman.. Yet for over a decade now we've had women telling us that they've "Broken the code" as far as "Masculinity" goes and thus they know better than men.. how to be men... Now, to be charitable…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/26 10:02 AM
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The idea essentially is this: 1) Bring up "Femicide" more and more in casual discussion, get people used to hearing the term 2) Hyper inflate the number of "Femicide" cases there are 3) Demand that men who commit "Femicide" are punished more severely than for standard "Murder" 4) Proclaim every single instance of a man killing a woman is a "Femicide" End goal, men get sent to prison for longer for killing a woman and every single instance of a woman dying is labeled as a "Femicide" If a man happ…
/r/MensRights26/06/26 09:57 AM
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Are they undeniable? Many of the statistics around violent crime are based on flawed / biased statistics / laws / policies. Just look at how influential the Duluth Model of Domestic Violence (Thanks Feminists) has been in molding the discussion of domestic violence into one of "Men are abusers, women are victims" Or look at the statistics on Rape If you take them at face value they do suggest that it is indeed mostly men committing rape.. But if you use some critical thinking or apply nuance you…
/r/MensRights26/06/26 05:33 AM
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The whole argument falls apart with even the littlest bit of scrutiny.. The whole premise and focus is on how men "on average" are physically stronger than women which is true.. However they use this to conflate that to men on average being more "Powerful" than women which is not the case. Women make up for the lack of biological strength by implying "Soft Power" aka the System.. A woman can easily level an accusation of violence or rape against a man and the system is setup to assume by default…
/r/MensRights26/06/26 05:11 AM
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The other problem is this idea that "Because men are on average physically stronger than women its impossible for a woman to physically hurt any man" is just plain bullshit. Its literally the same argument used to explain why women "Can not rape men" They argue that because a man is on average physically stronger than women its impossible for a woman to overpower a man and thus they can not rape him. All while ignoring the fact that a woman doesn't need to physically overwhelm a man to commit ra…
/r/MensRights25/06/26 08:44 PM
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And yet... despite this apparent logical fear women have of men.. women initiate or escalate domestic violence in 70% of cases.. I don't know about you but if I were worried about a man getting physical with me I wouldn't be attacking him in the first place right? Also you are falling into the same trap everyone else does.. You are so hyper fixated on the physical differences between men and women that you ignore facts like: - If a woman shoots a man the physical strength difference does not mat…
/r/MensRights25/06/26 07:54 PM
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Excuse me? So according to you.. the fact that men on average are biologically stronger than women.. that means that we can't possibly discuss instances of women being violent because it falls outside the average? That's a pretty piss poor line of reasoning.. If a woman shoots a man with a gun or slams into him with a car or recruits "Other Men" to do her violence for her then the strength differential between her and the man she wants harmed is meaningless..
/r/MensRights25/06/26 07:52 PM
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Sure.. and if a woman shoots a man with a gun or slams into him with a car then the strength difference doesn't matter at all. Or if the woman hires "Other Men" to inflict violence on her behalf.. then once again her biological strength difference doesn't matter does it? Also just throwing it out there.. but when I was 5 years old I was physically abused by a 36 year old woman.. I lacked the strength to stop her from abusing me. Being "Male" didn't help me in that situation did it?
/r/MensRights25/06/26 07:49 PM
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And congratulations for missing the point.. The point is this: It doesn't matter if a man is 3x or 100x stronger than a woman.. If she shoots him with a gun or slams into him with a car that strength differential does not matter at all You also under estimate how often women will hire "Other Men" to inflict violence for them.. Once again.. in those cases where a woman hires a man to hurt another man for her the strength differential between her and the man she want's harmed does not matter becau…
/r/MensRights25/06/26 07:47 PM
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The issue I see here is.. this is another situation where as a man you are damned if you do, damned if you don't.. If you go be there for the birth of your first child you are damned as "Abandoning your team" If you don't go and something happens to your wife / the baby you are damned as: "Not caring enough to be there for them" Also where are the feminists getting up in arms over this? After all haven't they been claiming that they WANT men to be more active in the lives of the children they ha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/26 07:40 PM
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You don't get it at all.. Your concept of "Free Speech" is that you can say absolutely anything you want and no one is allowed to do anything about it. When that is not true at all. As I said, claiming "Free Speech" will NOT protect you from someone inflicting violence upon you for the things you have said. As I then pointed out, if that happens the person is also not protected from being arrested, charged and convicted for what they did.. But my point still stands.. "Free Speech" is not a magic…
/r/MensRights25/06/26 09:17 AM
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You can say racist stuff and not go to jail. that is true.. But equally if you say racist stuff "Free Speech" doesn't protect you from getting curb stomped or your teeth smashed in..
/r/MensRights25/06/26 08:03 AM
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You really don't know what you are talking about.. "Free Speech" protects you from the government taking action against you.. Free speech is not a magical shield that lets you get away with saying what ever you want with zero consequences.. For example, if you use your free speech to spew hate speech towards a particular demographic and someone punches you in the face your "Free Speech" hasn't been silenced.. Nor is that person protected from consequences for punching you in the face... Take a m…
/r/MensRights25/06/26 08:02 AM
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They only care or give lip service to men's issues when they can blame it on "Other Men" or "The Patriarchy" or "Toxic Masculinity" Because then it becomes an issue men created and thus in their minds its on men to resolve it themselves.. Or they will give lip service to male victims only to spin the conversation back around to "But women have it worse"
/r/MensRights25/06/26 07:51 AM
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And women also initiate over 70% of all divorces... Makes you wonder if there's a reason for that..
/r/MensRights25/06/26 07:49 AM
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Exactly! Also.. it doesn't matter if the man is bigger or stronger than us.. we still have to call out his misogyny and put ourselves on the line to protect their feelings from getting hurt... And in return they constantly belittle us and claim that our "Fee Fee's are hurt by their words" But hey double standards, feminists and not having any standards other than double standards and all that jazz right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/26 07:45 AM
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Yeah.. I'm aware of how feminists in the UK are pushing for women to not be sent to jail for any crime at all.. All while ignoring the fact that the same arguments they use to justify why women shouldn't be sent to prison also apply equally (And in some cases more) to men..
/r/MensRights25/06/26 07:43 AM
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Given how crazy the UK goes with accusations of Rape? Unlikely.. I can guarantee that there will still be people that despite the court case will believe that this man raped her and will continue to hound him over something he never did.
/r/MensRights25/06/26 04:32 AM
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Well of course we all know that prison in the UK is SOOOOOOO much worse for female offenders.. of obviously a 2 year sentence is the equivalent of 15 years in prison for a man so justice was clearly served here.. /S Are you kidding me.. she was already on a suspended sentence for perverting the course of justice of which this case would also fall into.. And all she gets is a measly 2 years? (and what's to bet she'll get out on parole in less than 1 year served anyway) Also.. for something that f…
/r/MensRights25/06/26 02:24 AM
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I do actively call out Misogyny where and when I see it. That being said If Donald Trump or Andrew Tait says something misogynistic there isn't overly much I can do about it besides calling them out for what they have said as I don't live in the countries they reside in.. I think that's part of the problem though.. It feels like we as men are constantly being treated as a monolith by feminists.. Anytime a man says or does something wrong or harms a woman its not enough for us to call the man out…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/26 02:14 AM
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And yet, if we don't call out the slightest misogynistic thing a man says they reverse it on us and say "Why aren't you calling out Misogyny!?"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 11:05 PM
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And yet of course.. the same does not work in reverse for men.. When men complain or generalize women they aren't "Venting" they are "Spewing Misogyny" The same feminists that are alright with “kill all men” and “all men are rapists” would start climbing walls in rage if they ever hear a man respectfully voice their opinion about a woman. You are 100% correct about this When its women generalizing, demonizing or vilifying men its perfectly acceptable.. But when its men generalizing, demonizing o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 11:04 PM
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I wasn’t even taking a position for or against, just giving some basic facts. Oh really? You aren’t engaging in any type of good faith discussion. The fact is that circumcision does reduces infections, including hiv, and FGM is an unhygienic practice that causes infections, has no medical benefit, and is carried out on older children that will remember their suffering. If you want to debate the value of circumcision in western countries where the large majority will be straight and have low risk…
/r/MensRights24/06/26 06:38 AM
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That’s just a lie about FGM and it’s also criminal in all of the civilized world. And yet Male Circumcision is not.. Funny how that works eh? Why do we make it illegal to alter / mutilate the genitals of girls / women but make it legal to do it to boys / men? Quite the double standard no?
/r/MensRights24/06/26 06:35 AM
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You aren’t engaging in any type of good faith discussion. The fact is that circumcision does reduces infections, including hiv, You know what does a better job of reducing getting HIV and other infections from having sex? Condoms! The "Study" done which supposedly proved the benefit of circumcision did not include the fact that most of the participants studied were using condoms when having sex.. Thus they falsely attributed circumcision to reducing the rates of HIV / other infections. The fores…
/r/MensRights24/06/26 03:31 AM
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And what of the many single mothers out there who also decide to have their infant sons circumcised? Stop acting as though this is something that only men are doing.
/r/MensRights24/06/26 03:27 AM
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This will never work The only way feminists would work with us is if we accept without question their assertion that we live within a "Patriarchy" and because of that we as men are "Privileged" and we need to give up that privilege to help women.. Oh and of course, because of our privilege any issues we face are our own fault.. So yeah.. its never going to happen..
/r/MensRights24/06/26 03:25 AM
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And how exactly pray tell do you expect us to work with a movement that at its core has blamed, generalized and vilified ALL men for decades now? Feminists love to spout about how feminism is "A movement for equality" and that feminism is "For men too" But in reality feminism and feminists only care about women. The only time i've seen feminists actually care about issues that we as men face is when fixing an issue we as men face benefits women in some way.. If it doesn't benefit women its deeme…
/r/MensRights24/06/26 03:24 AM
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Women aren’t generally wary of men simply because they had one bad experience. They’re responding to broader social realities. Men commit the overwhelming majority of violent crime, and roughly 90% of homicide offenders are male. That doesn’t mean all men are dangerous. It means women are making risk assessments based on both personal experience and population-level patterns. And there are many men who have had negative experiences with women.. from experiencing violence or abuse at their hands …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/26 07:34 PM
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I absolutely agree with you! I've been saying it for a while now but Feminists have been lying for a long time now.. They claim their movement is "About equality" and "For men too" Yet their actions disprove those claims time and time again and prove the movement is actually only about the betterment of women. And as you said, I'm fine if that's the case.. But they need to be honest about their intentions and need to stop lying about being "For equality" or "For men too" They would also need to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/26 10:52 AM
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You asked how anyone can say men have power over women and made an example where women harm men with their votes. I showed you how that‘s possible by giving you an example where it‘s the other way around (ergo an example where men have power over women) And your example was flawed because you are painting "Roe V Wade" as an example of "Men harming women with their vote" and acting as though it was EXCLUSIVELY Men who voted on it to be overturned When as I have already told you.. that is not the …
/r/MensRights23/06/26 07:11 AM
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I think you‘re moving the golpost. Everything you say is true. Roe v Wade s still an example where men harm women with their votes just like war policies are an example of it happening the other way around. No, i'm not.. I'm pointing out the dishonesty of the Roe V Wade argument.. Its constantly touted as "Men wanting to control what women do with their bodies" And everyone conveniently ignores the MANY women who voted FOR Roe V Wade to be overturned. When that's not how it was at all.. Even now…
/r/MensRights23/06/26 07:09 AM
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And was it exclusively MEN who voted on Roe Vs Wade to be overturned? No, it was not.. There were hundreds of thousands of "Pro-life" women pushing for it to be overturned.. But yet without fail Roe Vs Wade being overturned is constantly twisted and contorted to be something that MEN did all on their own specifically to oppress women..
/r/MensRights23/06/26 04:24 AM
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It would be great if that's how it works.. But it is not how it works.. We've painted a picture of a social hierarchy where men are in positions of power or are otherwise 'dominant' So then people start looking at men and assuming "Oh, your a man, and therefore you are in a position of power and because of this you can't face discrimination or oppression or if you do its no where near what women face" The problem with acknowledging the Social Hierarchy of 'Patriarchy' means that by default men A…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/26 04:13 AM
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I will never experience what women do - the constant staring, harassment, and feeling of being at risk; As a man, I have experienced this.. When my niece was still quite young i'd occasionally take her to the mall to give my sister and bother-in-law some peace. And without fail.. I would get judgemental states / glares from women around me looking at me as though i'm a sexual predator who had abducted a little girl. I even had instances of women reporting me to mall security.. I am also a man wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/26 09:27 PM
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I agree that most manosphere creators don't actually care about men and are simply looking for clicks / money.. But at the same time.. The Left Wing / Feminism / The Femosphere also doesn't care about men.. So In that situation which direction are men most likely to flow? Are they going to flow in the direction of the side which constantly blames them, vilifies and demonizes them? Or are they going to flow into the direction of the side that validates their concerns and struggles? I should think…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/26 08:48 PM
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its poor math and stats skills to look only at microscope images and not entire pictures. Domestic abuse and violence highly out numbers in favour of men towards women than the reverse, Based on biased systems and statistics.. If women were arrested, charged, convicted and sentenced to the same standard men are held to the statistics would NOT be as one sided as they are now.. this also matters because women who murder male partners have to be split in were they saving themselves from a captor, …
/r/MensRights22/06/26 07:39 AM
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And Lucy Lethby murdered SEVEN infants and attempted to murder EIGHT more.. Do we get to judge ALL women based on HER actions? That wouldn't be fair now would it? Yet it seems perfectly acceptable to judge ALL men based on the actions of a minority of men... Make that make sense...
/r/MensRights22/06/26 07:29 AM
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You should check current polls of support for stripping women of their reproductive rights, the percent of women who have been sexually assaulted, etc... And how many WOMEN are involved in the stripping of women of their reproductive rights? Or do you ACTUALLY believe its exclusively men doing this? How many hundreds of thousands of "Pro-life" women were pushing for and voting for Roe Vs Wade to be overturned? No, lets ignore that little fact and instead make it seem like its exclusively men try…
/r/MensRights22/06/26 07:26 AM
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Women are also more likely to recruit "Other Men" to inflict violence on their behalf.. Yet when this happens it gets recorded as an instance of "Male on Male Violence" and not as an instance of "Female on Male Violence" Also, women are more likely to initiate domestic violence more often than men, often clinging to the concept of "Men aren't allowed to hit women" as some form of diplomatic immunity..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 10:04 PM
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"Male on Female violence (MoFV) is much higher than the other way around so you can't deny that" Watch me.. The only reason MoFV is "much higher" is because we only care when it happens.. Where as FoMV is often overlooked or dismissed or justified as "Self defense" even in cases where its clear the woman was the aggressor / abuser from start to finish. Our legal system is also less likely to arrest, charge and convict women for their violent crimes compared to men As such the statistics are skew…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 10:01 PM
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I'm not wrong.. I showed my math.. on it.. If you were getting paid a wage / salary of 60K per year then over 15 years you would only earn 900K And last I checked 900K is less than 2.5 Million Its like winning the 2.5 million dollars in a lottery. Its a significant amount of money and if invested / used wisely could give you a comfortable life for the rest of your life. So in that sense.. its not a bad amount. Ultimately I do say "Nothing can replace the time taken away"
/r/MensRights21/06/26 07:36 PM
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Sure, that's possible.. Its also possible that Breast Cancer gets more focus on there is more drive on women getting checked for Breast Cancer so its more likely to be picked up early.. Yet with Prostate Cancer there isn't the same drive on getting men to get themselves checked regularly Which means its more likely to go unchecked and thus regardless of it progressing slowly is more likely to be fatal?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 07:33 PM
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Are you fucking serious!? Yes, women CAN still get first degree murder charges for killing their partners.. The difference here is, when a woman is killed it is AUTOMATICALLY classified as 1st degree murder.. I mean it makes sense since the rates male partners kill their female partners is far higher than the reverse. And women commit the majority of false rape accusations.. should we then put laws in place to punish specifically women who lie about being raped? After all rates of women lying ab…
/r/MensRights21/06/26 08:25 AM
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This is more than a little rich... Breast cancer gets waaaaaaaaaay more funding than Prostate Cancer does.. Despite Prostate cancer having higher terminal rates compared to Breast Cancer no less.. And yes, i'm aware that men can also get breast cancer.. Yes, endometriosis is a serious issue and it's not right that it isn't receiving the resources and attention that it should get, but framing it this way where it becomes a man vs woman issue screams "Ulterior motive" to me. It's like they want to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 07:32 AM
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My point is.. if you were working essentially minimum wage then the payout is more than what you would have earned in 15 years.. Obviously I don't think its enough at al
/r/MensRights21/06/26 05:05 AM
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I don't think its reasonable Note what I said at the end of my post: "But as you said, nothing can replace the time taken away from you." I literally said "Nothing can replace the time taken away from you"
/r/MensRights21/06/26 03:23 AM
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I agree about the misuse, but it's still important to be able to talk about the negative aspects of the expectations thrust on men by society and how they hurt men. Maybe there's a better term that's less loaded, idk. I literally gave you a less loaded term: "Toxic Gender Norms" We can still have same discussions but its less focused on genders and rather the traits / norms expected of men / women which are "Toxic" or harmful to men / women and society.. How hard is that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 02:06 AM
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Yes, but in her case he wasn't even robbing her.. she just THOUGHT he was.. What makes her justified in shooting a man who wasn't actually robbing her? Or are you saying that we're allowed to shoot people if we even THINK they might be committing a crime against us?
/r/MensRights21/06/26 12:52 AM
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This means btw that women can display toxic masculinity (and vice versa) and so it's not necessarily a misandrist term. If women can display "toxic masculinity" too then why is it even gendered in the first place? Surely it would be better to label it "Toxic Gender Norms" or "Toxic Gender Roles" right? But every single feminist i've mentioned that to has usually responded that we don't need to make the term gender neutral to protect men's "Fee Fees" The problem is that despite any actual usefuln…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 12:44 AM
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One person doesn't define a movement, That's funny given how often feminists LOVE to paint ALL men as "Rapists" or "Abusers" based on the actions of what is essentially the minority of men as a whole.. I'm not sure if you mean to be saying women would be getting justice by returning the level of violence toward men? There's this idea that "Women have been oppressed since the dawn of time and because of that its okay to hate ALL men for the actions of men long since dead" Also, what happens when …
/r/MensRights21/06/26 12:39 AM
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Theft is a crime, cheating isn't. That's insane. I never claimed that cheating was a crime The point which you have missed here is the idea that someone can shoot or inflict harm upon another person for a presumed slight against them. In your example its theft, In my example is cheating. Neither in my view are justifications at all.. But you do seem to be doing you best to defend her actions...
/r/MensRights21/06/26 12:34 AM
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And what exactly is the bar used to decide whether a woman was killed EXPLICITLY because of her gender rather than other factors? The answer is, there is none, in their minds any time a woman is killed at all the default assumption is "Femicide" Yet watch as women are still only convicted of "Homicide" and even then you still need to prove intent.. Mean while under this new law if you kill a woman your intent does not matter, you murdered the most protected class in existence: "Women" and for th…
/r/MensRights20/06/26 11:37 PM
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Depending on your wage / salary its not bad.. If someone earns $60,000 a year (before tax) then over 15 years that equates to $900k (Once again before taxes, usual living costs etc) Its a significant amount of money and if utilized correctly would ensure a comfortable life for you.. But as you said, nothing can replace the time taken away from you.
/r/MensRights20/06/26 11:30 PM
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The problem is, they claim "Toxic Masculinity" is an academic term and that we as men are being deliberately obtuse or simply do not understand what the term actually means... All the while they use the term exactly in the way of labeling Men / Masculinity as a whole as "toxic"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/26 11:01 PM
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Its funny how they will say: "OMG! Toxic Masculinity doesn't mean 'Men are Toxic!'" all while attributing literally everything and anything a man does which a woman does not agree with or even takes offense to as "Toxic Masculinity" In other words, the claim that Toxic Masculinity doesn't mean "Men are Toxic" while using it in exactly that context.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/26 11:00 PM
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The issue I have is how prevalent "Toxic Masculinity" is discussed.. Yet "Toxic Femininity" is almost never discussed or if it is, its to deflect it with people saying "Toxic Femininity does exist except it isn't called that, its called 'Internalized Misogyny'" Because of course they don't want Women or Femininity attributed to being "Toxic" But its apparently perfectly acceptable for Men or Masculinity to be attributed to being "Toxic" Its just another double standard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/26 10:58 PM
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So.. if a man shot a woman over a presumed instance of her cheating... Would that be the same thing? No.. people would still attribute it to "Misogyny" or label it "Attempted Femicide" Do you not understand the double standards here?
/r/MensRights20/06/26 10:55 PM
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Edmund Kemper (The Co-Ed Killer) was abused by his alcoholic mother Ed Gein (another male serial killer) was raised by a heavily religious and abusive mother who strictly forbade any interaction with women while continuously condemning them as evil These are just two examples of men who were abused by women (often their mothers) who went on to kill multiple people.. They could be classified as "Deeply wounded" but I suspect any attempt to do so would be met with reactions of disgust.. Now, their…
/r/MensRights20/06/26 09:29 PM
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The fact that men who are victims of domestic violence are counted under "VAWG" is absolutely dehumanizing to say the least! How disgusting is it that the only way men can be counted as "Victims" is if they get recorded under the stats which are specifically for tracking violence against women and girls? And of course.. the men who are recorded under this system will be used to fuel the established agenda of "Women are facing a pandemic of domestic violence"
/r/MensRights19/06/26 10:40 PM
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The thing that has always gotten me is, If I spent many years alone working and saving up a bunch of money And then I get into a relationship with a woman.. Why should she be entitled to half my savings if we split up? She wasn't there for me when I was working and earning that money so why does she magically get half of it?
/r/MensRights19/06/26 10:26 PM
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Given this is the UK we're talking about.. it will likely be a "He said / She Said" and if she said it was a "Romantic Relationship" then its up to the man to prove it was not..
/r/MensRights19/06/26 10:23 PM
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One aspect I don't see people discussing here is: Given how near impossible it can be to own your own place these days and how prevalent renting is.. What happens if your renting a place and because you can't afford to rent it by yourself you get other random people in to rent the place with you and one of them happens to be a woman? You have no romantic interest in her but under this new law if she flats with you for 3 years she is then in a defacto relationship.. Also.. watch as this will ONLY…
/r/MensRights19/06/26 07:20 PM
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Is female abuse prevalent? Its not all women but always A woman when it comes to false rape accusations Its not all women but always A woman when it comes to paternity fraud Also, the rates of Female on Male violence are biased and skewed because of the heavy focus we have on Male on Female violence. Also because of bullshit like The Duluth Model of Domestic Violence. Not only that, but women are more likely to recruit men to do their violence for them. But, when this happens it doesn't get coun…
/r/MensRights18/06/26 07:13 PM
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And when exactly can we expect women to call out women for their misandry towards men?
/r/MensRights18/06/26 12:47 AM
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Its funny, the moment you use their same arguments against them suddenly its "NOT ALL WOMEN!" or "Women are not a monolith!" But when its men being generalized based on the actions of what is ultimately the minority of men.. We aren't allowed to say "Not all Men" or "Men aren't a monolith" we get told that we are "deflecting" or "derailing" At this point It feels like in order to become a feminist these days you are required to attend a ceremony where you recite the hypocritical oath...
/r/MensRights17/06/26 06:29 AM
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my point is the large majority of sexual crime aggravators are men and that’s it And if you drill further down you'll find that the majority of those men are Men of Color.. But you won't say that because that would make you sound like a racist wouldn't it? So instead you jump back a step and simply state "Its mostly men who are committing these crimes" Your overall point is bullshit and has no merit at all
/r/MensRights17/06/26 06:26 AM
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but we can’t deny that men make up the vast majority. What are you basing this opinion of yours on? If you are basing it on the crime "Statistics" then you are basing you opinion on biases and faulty statistics...
/r/MensRights17/06/26 06:24 AM
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Absolutely this! You don't even have to say anything to them.. You could simply be looking in their general direction and happen to make eye contact for less than 3 seconds and BOOM! That's all they need to generate their imagined scenario of you being dangerous to them.. It also sure is ironic how feminists will tell us its not on them to protect our "Fee Fee's" (Feelings for those who don't get it) Yet they also demand that we as men change what we say or do to make women FEEL safe. But hey...…
/r/MensRights17/06/26 06:23 AM
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Just look at what happened a few years ago when a College (High school) in Australia forced all the boys in an assembly to stand and apologize to the girls in the assembly "For the crimes of their gender" Yes, there was backlash and outrage about it.. But now I fear this will become the norm.. Boys will be forced to essentially confess their sins on a daily basis and spout about how they are all abusive pieces of shit who need to work hard to be protectors and allies to the girls / women around …
/r/MensRights17/06/26 06:18 AM
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And your "point" is based on biased and flawed statistics
/r/MensRights17/06/26 03:11 AM
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I think you need to rethink things. You shouldn’t expect to get anything out of it, it’s just the responsibility of being a man. Take pride in it, and embrace healthy masculinity. It isn’t a man’s place to feel entitled to love or praise for doing this, those things come from being a good and charming person. Okay.. so expecting women to hold women accountable for their misandry / bad deeds is not a reasonable expectation? After all you said "it’s just the responsibility of being a man." So what…
/r/MensRights16/06/26 10:41 PM
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They will make arguments like "women commit less violence than men, therefor if women in charge then there would never be any war", The irony here is, Women are very good at recruiting "Other Men" to do their violence for them.. Yet this is rarely if ever acknowledge when it comes to statistics around violence.. Worse, they are often miss-attributed to "Male on Male Violence" instead. So knowing this, the idea of "If women were in charge there would never be any war" is insane.. Women in charge …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/26 09:25 PM
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I get where you are coming from OP.. But from my perspective its hard to justify the time, effort and potential risk of "Calling out the bad men" when the end result is that I will still be tarred and feathered as a "Rapist" If me actively calling out the misogyny and bad actions of men won't change me being generalized and demonized by women then honestly.. why should I bother? Yes, its the "Right" thing to do.. But that simply isn't enough anymore for me.. I still do call out Misogyny where an…
/r/MensRights16/06/26 09:21 PM
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Its a Kafka trap.. They claim "Men have oppressed women for centuries" If you replay with "I have never oppressed women" your denial gets taken as evidence against you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/26 07:59 PM
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Please point out where anyone in this thread has been misogynistic I'll wait...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/26 07:58 PM
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Why is it though, that Feminists are allowed to define what is "Toxic" or "Positive" Masculinity Also.. why are we ONLY focusing on "Toxic" and "Positive" Masculinity? Doing so implies that Femininity is fine and there is nothing "Toxic" about it at all.. Shouldn't we be gender neutral and addressing ALL aspects of society which are "Toxic"? I'd argue the age old saying: "Boys / Men are not allowed to hit Girls / Women" is an example of Toxic Femininity At the end of the day we should be teachin…
/r/MensRights15/06/26 07:57 PM
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I'm personally sick and tired of the enforced guilt, blame and shame i'm expected to bare on my shoulders just because SOME people who share my gender have done bad things to women.. I'm also sick and tired of being told that I clearly don't understand the situation because of my "Privilege" and because of that I am indeed "Part of the problem" It sure is easy for you to look from the outside in, see but a small FRAGMENT of someone's lived experience and make assumptions based on that.. It feels…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/26 06:38 AM
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Isn't it funny how often feminists parrot that line of your "Fee Fees" being hurt by their misandry.. Without realizing that they are enforcing the "Toxic Masculinity" and "Patriarchal Culture" they claim to be fighting against. The whole idea behind it is to shame men into silence / compliance.. You are "Weak" in their eyes if their blatant misandry hurts your feelings... All while of course they femsplain about "Toxic Masculinity" and "Positive Masculinity" and how "Men need to be more open wi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/26 06:32 AM
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let's brainwwash boys into believing they are the problem.. That's exactly what they are doing right now.. They are brainwashing / shaming boys into compliance.
/r/MensRights15/06/26 04:48 AM
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Well.. if you include the women who were in The Order of the White Feather... Then yes.. the statement of "Women more likely to send men into wars against their will" is technically correct too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/26 12:26 AM
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I WAS ON YOUR SIDE Except for you know that part when you said: my entire point is that men AS A WHOLE have oppressed women for centuries which led to a general caution of every man regardless of individual actions. Ah yes.. you are TOTALLY on our side.. all while blaming men as a whole for oppressing women for centuries... Yeah.. that makes total sense....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/26 10:25 PM
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What ever dude. Expend your energy on this complete nothing burger of an issue.. I'm gonna go focus on actual issues like Male Genital Mutilation or Male Homelessness..
/r/MensRights14/06/26 09:49 PM
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what on earth is happening here 😭 my entire point is that men AS A WHOLE have oppressed women for centuries which led to a general caution of every man regardless of individual actions. And your entire point is WRONG I'm a man and I have not oppressed any women in my life.. How is it then justified for women to blame me for things I have never done? did you read my comment past just the parts at the beginning that you didn’t like? It was quite hard to read what you said given it was one MASSIVE …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/26 09:46 PM
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No, my position is: "IF a man has a daughter(s) and no son(s) and he decides to name his company after his daughter how is that "sexism"?" My position is, you are reading into something that simply isn't there.. You seem hyper fixated on this idea that it MUST be sexism.. But there are many factors involved. For example.. If I were starting a woman's cosmetics brand.. would it make sense to name the brand after my son? or would it make more sense to name it after my daughter? Conversely, If I we…
/r/MensRights14/06/26 09:17 PM
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In all honesty OP.. I think you are reading into things that are either not really there or are essentially a non-issue. If someone starts a business and they have a daughter but no son and they name the business after their daughter that doesn't mean "Men value their daughters more than their sons" and that's a pretty silly hot take to have. Of all the hills you are choosing to die upon OP.. this is the wrong hill
/r/MensRights14/06/26 04:53 AM
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That wouldn't surprise me..
/r/MensRights13/06/26 10:40 PM
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You know.. its funny how many women "Choose the Bear" and cite "Statistics" yet ignore the fact that statistics show that you are actually safer with a man you don't know well vs a man you know intimately. So with that in mind, If women used logic rather than emotion the answer would be they should choose the man every time. Also, logically speaking: "If you were in my skin (cis-woman physically weaker than the great majority of men)" Most bears are stronger than the majority of men.. So I imagi…
/r/MensRights13/06/26 09:31 PM
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To be honest, I mostly post for the observers more than the person i'm responding to.. I do however get more than a little annoyed when people claim "But feminism is a movement for equality!" Without even knowing or acknowledging the actual harm caused by Feminism and Feminists to men.
/r/MensRights13/06/26 07:45 PM
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how do u feel cornered?? I think loneliness would be fixed if people would be easier to talk to and emotions were easier to to talk about but sadly all those things are deemed to be weak and feminine and since those terms in society are meant to make you feel less of a man it ends up bing men in the arse. so my point is if we normalise these topics in society and among our friends and family we won't feel so lonely anymore. Sure, i'd be great to be more open with our emotions.. However we as men…
/r/MensRights13/06/26 10:52 AM
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I wouldn't hold my breath expecting a response.. The OP has a bias and is set in their ways.. They refuse to accept anything that goes against the narrative they have painted. They have drunk the cool-aid too deeply and believe that feminism is 100% a movement for "Equality" and "For men too" despite evidence to the contrary.
/r/MensRights13/06/26 10:44 AM
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from where im sitting it seems that u just want a world catered to men and not women, u think that feminism is about a world catered to women IT IS NOT So.. me pointing out the areas where FEMINISM and FEMINISTS have FAILED in their claims of "Equality" is me apparently wanting a world catered men and not women? You have no clue at all what you are talking about do you? hopefully one day u can come to terms with having mutual respect for women . Respect is a two way street I am fucking sick and …
/r/MensRights13/06/26 10:42 AM
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Damned if we do, damned if we don't.. If we let our emotions out we are "Trauma Dumping" or "Saddling women with emotional labor" If we bottle up our emotions we are exhibiting "Toxic Masculinity" We literally can not win here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/26 09:36 AM
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BULLSHIT! Feminism and Feminists CLAIM to be about "Equality" but at EVERY SINGLE OPPORTUNITY Feminism / Feminists have had to prove this they've fallen flat. It was FEMINISTS who drafted, published and pushed for the uptake of the Duluth Model of Domestic Violence A model based on assumptions and feelings rather than facts and evidence. A model which assumes that in domestic violence cases in heterosexual couples the man is ALWAYS the abuser / aggressor and the woman is ALWAYS the victim. This …
/r/MensRights13/06/26 09:33 AM
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im confused as to what women have done to menthol is so bad? Women can be outright physically abusive towards men with near diplomatic immunity because they've been raised being told "Boys / Men are not allowed to hit Girls / Women" And if a woman is attacking a man and he so much as hits her back ONCE or even pushes her away to defend himself.. that's it! he's instantly "The Aggressor" and anything she did up to that point is completely ignored. Women can AND DO make false rape accusations abou…
/r/MensRights13/06/26 09:26 AM
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hi so your upset for women comparing the majority of men to the worst of men right and your tired of being judged for things that you haven't done and won't do because your a good guy right. And can you understand how frustrating it is to be constantly demonized and vilified by feminists / women for things you have never and would never do regardless of being a "good guy"? You talk about leading by example.. Well that hasn't worked now has it? Regardless of what we do we keep getting demonized a…
/r/MensRights13/06/26 09:20 AM
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I highly doubt that majority of women were widows, which lead to them being able to vote, there were still going to be thousands of women who couldn't vote And there would have been equally thousands of men who were not land owners who could not vote either. But just look at how things work in the USA today. Men had to go fight and die in a war to get their right to vote.. That "Right" also comes with attached responsibilities As a man, if you want to Vote, Get a drivers license, get federal aid…
/r/MensRights13/06/26 01:11 AM
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I agree with the fact that we are both oppressed completely. the only fault I have with this is the history thing women were not allowed to vote until 1920 And you are wrong here. That is the common feminist narrative so I don't blame you.. However you will find that prior to 1920 voting rights were usually tied to landownership And while yes, the majority of landowners were men.. there were MANY cases where a woman's husband who was a landowner died and she inherited his lands and thus could vo…
/r/MensRights13/06/26 12:45 AM
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so have some empathy an understand why they're complaining and change the rhetoric so they dont feel unsafe around us anymore. cuz do u feel unsafe around women?? prolly not so please try to understand and if we do we'll see a rise in marriage and family and so much more. I have suffered physical, emotional and psychological abuse at the hands of multiple women in my life. So yes.. I DO feel safe around women.. But when I bring this up, I often get dismissed or told "Yes, that's horrible, but wo…
/r/MensRights13/06/26 12:41 AM
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Feminists drafted, published and pushed for the uptake of the Duluth Model of Domestic Violence, A model which assumes that in all cases of domestic violence involving heterosexual couples the man is ALWAYS the "Aggressor" or "Abuser" and women are ALWAYS the vicitms This model has all but erased male victims of domestic violence from the statistics and has made it seem that only women suffer from domestic violence. Feminists went to the United Nations to have Female Circumcision reclassified as…
/r/MensRights13/06/26 12:39 AM
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Do you go into women's spaces and tell them to stop complaining about men? Why are they allowed to spew hatred towards us yet you expect us to "Be the bigger men" and continue treating them with respect? Respect is EARNED not given.. Also I would point out that many of us blame FEMINISTS not "Women" Blaming feminists is not the same as "Hating women" Feminism and Feminists have done A LOT or harmful things to men And we are fully justified in feeling hated towards a movement that constantly clai…
/r/MensRights12/06/26 11:31 PM
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They pointed out facts. All of those are facts. I call BS on all of what was said were "facts" We hear a lot about how women under report their rape.. well its even worse for men because while women rarely not believed.. men are more often NEVER believed or told that they probably actually enjoyed what happened. Or here's a "fact" for you. In most western countries the crime of "Rape" is specifically defined to be a crime that ONLY MEN can be charged with. Because the crime is often defined alon…
/r/MensRights12/06/26 11:23 PM
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ALL RAPE IS HORRIBLE PERIOD is what I believe if that wasnt clear enough. Except for you know when you also said: Any rape is horrible but fortunately this is like 0.01% of cases where a man got raped by a woman. So almost never. Notice how you said BUT and then tried to dismiss this as an isolated incident.. a statistical anomaly not worth disucssing You are claiming "All rape is horrible" but your very words betray your stance. If you truly believe that "All rape is horrible" you wouldn't be d…
/r/MensRights12/06/26 09:45 PM
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Female rapists need punishment just as the male ones, but Im not gonna act like it's a 50/50 issue here when clearly it has been men for millennia raping. I'm curious to see where you got your statistics. Well first, we'd need to fix the laws around rape so that women can ACTUALLY be charged with rape. In many countries the crime of "Rape" is gender coded to be a crime that ONLY men can be charged with. And seeing as how its a crime that only men can be charged with.. clearly the statistics are …
/r/MensRights12/06/26 09:33 PM
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Calm down bro. This is something 99.9% of men never have to worry about. Your EXACT words there.. The fact you felt the need to say "This is something 99.99% of men never have to worry about is you saying you don't care if men get raped. I'm not twisting anything here. All I'm doing is putting things into perspective to show you while rape to men does happen it almost never happens so this isnt a big societal issue like it is with rape on women like some of you are making it seem. Oh right.. so …
/r/MensRights12/06/26 09:31 PM
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Any rape is horrible but fortunately this is like 0.01% of cases where a man got raped by a woman. So almost never. Your statement can be best summarized as: "Any rape is horrible, except when its a man being raped by a woman because of how rare it is" How fucking disgusting of you... You don't actually believe any rape as horrible because you are justifying what happened here as "Rare" and thus not important. Men ACTUALLY die from suicide more than women.. but that doesn't stop women and femini…
/r/MensRights12/06/26 08:10 PM
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Ah yes.. the whole "Men are only now experiencing 1% of what women as a whole have experienced throughout history so shut the fuck up! Women have it worse!" Do you not see how fucking disgusting and dismissive your comment is to men who are victims? Imagine if we started doing the same thing to women who attempt suicide telling them "Well men are actually dying from suicide more so stop attention seeking!" It would be absolutely dismissive and disgusting if we did that right?
/r/MensRights12/06/26 08:03 PM
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No, in my opinion Feminism has lied to us for decades about being "For equality" and being "For Men too" Feminism's entire focus is actually on women's rights / advocacy Which i'm fine with.. but if that's the case they need to stop lying and declaring their movement to be the "One true movement for equality" They also need to stop gatekeeping / monopolizing equality or the resources for equality. I also feel that Feminism and Feminists as a whole have a misguided assumption that men are to blam…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/26 07:58 PM
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A woman hating men based on their experiences is them hating people based on an immutable characteristic (gender) Me hating feminists for their generalizing of men is me hating them based on their ideology. Feminists can stop being feminists at any point they like.. I can not simply stop being a "man" nor would it matter If I said "Um actually... I don't identify as man" because they would still generalize me anyway. So, when a feminist hates men because she's been harassed and abused by them, a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/26 10:08 AM
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So, what you get is feminists yelling about patriarchy and just generally blaming everything on men. Which, as you correctly identified, sucks. Sucks being blamed for all those bad things you have (I hope) never done. You can't help but want to defend yourself saying that just because a man might've done something bad, even if many men have done something bad, that doesn't mean every man has or is responsible for it. It would be insane to hold you accountable for things you never did, or, god fo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/26 08:03 AM
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If that's the case, then why do so many governments decree that if you live with a woman for a period of time you are considered to be in a "Civil Union" which essentially gives her the same rights as though she had been married to you and so if she leaves she can essentially divorce you and still get half your stuff even if you haven't actually been married? If women don't need men anymore then clearly they also don't need Alimony anymore right? Oh wait.. they aren't about to give up their cash…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/26 07:06 AM
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Because by saying that 'men aren't needed', they're not saying that each individual man is no longer needed for society, it's saying that men are no longer needed by virtue of being a man. Except they are.. Unless you mean they are doing the typical feminist thing where they generalize men and then claim "We obviously don't mean ALL men" The lack of a quantifier denotes an assumption that you are speaking about ALL by default. Otherwise they would have said "Most men aren't needed" or "Many men …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/26 07:05 AM
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Its not just men.. The Final Fantasy 14 fan base are filled with women who sexualize many of the male characters often quite obnoxiously.. Thancred, Estenien, Haurchefant, Emeric, Hien, Emmet Selch, Hythlodaeus, G'raha Tia All of these are examples of male characters who have been overtly sexualized by female fans. In the End Walker expansion there is even a cut scene of Estenien shirtless doing pushups on the floor.. Would this be an example of "The Female Gaze"? Should we shame women for enjoy…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/26 12:13 AM
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Being upset that someone's using the word 'Patriarchy' wrong isn't helping you fight the rich. In fact, it helps the rich - the more energy you spend being angry about feminism, the less energy you have to organise and agitate for change that claws power out of the hands of the rich and puts it back into the hands of the working class people. If the problem is "The Rich" aka The Oligarchy then yes, it makes absolute sense to be upset at people using the wrong word.. When feminists use "Patriarch…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 10:05 PM
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The comic in question showed up in my feed this morning and it was truly disgusting. The old tired "only men are responsible for the behavior of bad men because they'll listen to them but they won't listen to women." And yet, flip the genders and tell them "Well women are responsible for the behavior and misandry of bad women because they'll listen to them but won't listen to men" And watch as you get pelted with: "NOT ALL WOMEN!" "Women are NOT a monolith!" "Misandry doesn't exist" "Misandry is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 09:58 PM
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No, clearly your own ingrained biases and assumptions have blinded you to the fact that all of those are simple examples of "The Patriarchy backfiring on men" And of course, who set up the system in the first place? That's right! Men! So its men's fault that wives cheat on their husbands, get custody of the children and that women aren't held accountable for their crimes... So we need to stop blaming women and start blaming men! /S (PLEASE for the love of god note the sarcasm here) But yeah it h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 09:55 PM
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Really!? who couldn't see that result from a mile away? Its almost like shaming men who have done nothing wrong is only going to alienate / disenfranchise them.. And the men who are doing the horrible things you are shaming? They don't care.. they know it's wrong and shaming them isn't going to help..
/r/MensRights10/06/26 08:50 PM
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Yeah.. they fail to see how convenient it is that men "Under report their abuse" when its homosexual men (because it supports their narrative) But try advising that hetero sexual men also under report their abuse at the hands of women and suddenly its like you spouting heresy..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/26 10:20 AM
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And of course feminists will claim that we are "Cherry picking" or that we are misinterpreting that statistic (Ironic I know) Because according to the statistic actually shows that women in lesbian relationships have previously been in heterosexual relationships where they experienced domestic violence or something like that. Oh and they also point out that men in homosexual relationships are less likely to report their abuse.. Which again is astounding because they seem to think only homosexual…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/26 09:01 PM
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I'm glad i'm not the only one! It just seems logical to me that if we are willing to inflict violence upon boys mere hours / days of being born... maybe just maybe that does something in their heads which makes them somewhat more prone to violent tendencies? If nothing else its a massive violation of their rights to bodily autonomy.. (Ironic given that this same argument is used in regards to Female Genital Mutilation yet apparently it does not apply to men)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/26 06:38 AM
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And Male Circumcision is also commonly labeled as "Just removal of the foreskin" But it can lead to many complications from UTI's to botched circumcisions removing the head of the penis etc.. But despite all of that, its all treated as just one "Category"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/26 06:36 AM
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Yet another double standard... They try to claim that Suicide is a "Woman's issue" because "Women attempt more" and sure, that's what the statistics say.. yet, lets use the same logic in regards to Male Genital Mutilation.. The stats are clear, there are more infant / young boys who have their genitals mutilated on a daily basis than there are girls / women who have their genitals mutilated per year.. So from that stand point and using their "Logic" Male Genital Mutilation is "worse" because of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/26 06:34 AM
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Tbh though I really cba to argue semantics with you, you can use whatever definition you want. I am genuinely interested though, do you actually consider yourself left wing, pro equality, or an ally of women, or against misogyny? Like I'm not suggesting you aren't but I'm interested to hear how you square the circle of being so vehemently antifeminist and posting on a left wing sub? I do consider myself left wing as i'm pro equality and I do care about the issues women face.. I'm anti-feminist b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/26 02:24 AM
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Women (I assume you mean women here) don't have a monopoly on equality and actually a big part of fourth wave feminism is looking at intersectionality with other identities. Men should do the same when considering mens advocacy. No, I do NOT mean "Women" Feminism and Feminists do not equal "Women" There are many men in the feminist movement who are also responsible for the ongoing misandry and inequality towards men. Its also funny that you bring up intersectionality because in my experience wit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/26 10:10 PM
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The answer here is to give them their own medicine.. If its perfectly acceptable generalizing ALL men based on the actions of the minority of men.. then clearly its acceptable to generalize ALL women based on the actions of the minority of women right? If that's the version of equality they want then go for it. Maybe if we spent the next decade generalizing women based on the crimes women do it might sink in that being generalized based on things you have never done and would never do sucks and …
/r/MensRights08/06/26 09:11 PM
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Remember, Feminism is fighting for women to be equal to men.. Except when it comes to accountability.. They treat equality like the salad bar at a buffet
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/26 09:03 PM
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Exactly! If you make a joke that is even slightly misogynistic in tone you get called out for it.. Yet women can make misandrist jokes about men all the time and we're expected to treat it as the epitome of humor... On the note of: "Kill All Men" I absolutely despise how it gets hand waved away as "A joke" or "Satire" or "Punching Up" When we know for a fact that if you swapped "Man" with ANY other demographic it would be considered hate speech and would NEVER be tolerated as "A Joke"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/26 09:00 PM
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Thank you for admitting what you are.
/r/MensRights08/06/26 07:59 AM
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You still have yet to prove that I said anything "wrong" You based your entire argument on me claiming that I was blaming "women" for things when I never was.. Maybe think a little before you speak next time eh?
/r/MensRights08/06/26 07:50 AM
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Women can’t physically do what men do and don’t tend to lean on physicality. They use other means like reputation destruction, gossip etc. That’s still a form of aggression but indirect and very damaging. Look at false allegations and getting someone fired etc. Women will often hire or recruit "Other Men" (as feminists love to point out) to inflict violence on their behalf.. When this happens and it can be proven the women recruited men to inflict harm on another man for her.. its NEVER counted …
/r/MensRights08/06/26 07:31 AM
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Wrong, All women are NOT feminists. Many women are feminists but not all Some men are feminists, many are not. You are the only one who is making incorrect statements here.
/r/MensRights08/06/26 04:04 AM
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I NEVER said "Women" have done all of those things I said FEMINISTS Feminism and Feminist Does NOT equal "Women" Feminists have done all the things I mentioned I'm blaming FEMINISTS not women. Ergo what I have said is correct.
/r/MensRights08/06/26 12:10 AM
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Care to elaborate on what exactly is "not accurate"
/r/MensRights07/06/26 10:41 PM
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I'm not expecting women to do everything for me.. I'm expecting FEMINISTS to live up to the claims they make.. If FEMINISTS claim to be a movement for equality and that their movement is "For men too" Then I expect them to back up their words with actions to prove their claims Thus far, that has not happened.
/r/MensRights07/06/26 10:41 PM
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I have no foreskin (female), but I think circumcision is absolutely heinous considering the fact that the reasons baby boys die from it are either infections or lungs bursting from screaming in agony (when anesthesia isn’t used). Technically, the clitoral hood is analogous to the male foreskin so technically you do have foreskin.. but only on a technical term. On the anesthesia point.. the majority of infant circumcision is done without it because its too dangerous to anesthetize them.. I've alw…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/26 07:02 AM
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Its always bothered me how the claim is made: "Male circumcision has its roots in religious / cultural practices so that makes it harder if not impossible to stamp out" Yet "FGM" is also rooted in cultural / religious practices but that didn't stop feminists from decrying the practice and demanding it be outlawed. I also hate the argument of how you can't compare the two.. Well of course not! young girls are not routinely having their clitoral hoods removed, those hoods given to skin care compan…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/26 04:24 AM
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The great thing about the internet is everyone is allowed to have their opinions.. I disagree with yours but I'm at least I'll still take you seriously.. My opinion is that TLJ definitely had misandry in it.. From the way Luke was portrayed through to how Admiral Holdo outright dismisses Poe or tells him how he doesn't need to know "The Plan" Holdo was the encapsulation of "The Girl Boss" trope. If you disagree that's your opinion but at least I don't think less of you for it...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/26 03:29 AM
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Well, at this stage when it comes to feminism and feminists double standards go hand in hand.. The apt saying here is: "If feminists didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards" Which is pretty much spot on from my experience.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/26 10:43 PM
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I've heard feminists using "ironic misandry" is them "Punching Up" when in reality they are punching down.. The thing about humor is that it should be funny to everyone.. Its also telling that feminists are allowed to use blatant misandry while hiding behind the shield of "Its just satire" Yet there is no way men would EVER get away with using misogyny for humor or "Ironically"... Its yet another double standard which at this point is what i've come to expect from feminism and feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/26 10:41 PM
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What its "Supposed to be about" and what it "Actually is" are two different things.. I've constantly heard feminists claim: "Feminism is a movement for equality" and "Feminism is for men too!" Yet at EVERY opportunity feminism has had to prove these claims.. they have failed miserably.. It was FEMINISTS who drafted, published and pushed for the uptake of the Duluth Model of Domestic Violence, A model which was based upon what they expected to find rather than facts and evidence, a model which as…
/r/MensRights06/06/26 08:12 PM
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I can't lie...I find the hand-wringing about misandry in films/TV as cringe and often as misguided as cries of misogyny from feminists. I understand where you are coming from but respectfully I disagree.. All too often recently we've seen film / franchises taken over by feminists and used to essentially push feminist dogma or to essentially be a gender studies lecture in disguise.. A classic example here would be The Last Jedi where the misandry and feminist rhetoric was overt and in your face..…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/26 07:52 PM
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Personally I do not think "Most of them are false" However, enough cases HAVE turned out to be false that it warrants more skepticism in my mind. What I would like to see is a shake up in the system.. If a man is arrested and charged with "Rape" then as per the idea of Innocent until PROVEN guilty the man's name should be kept anonymous up and including through the trial Once the trial is concluded and if he's found guilty then yes publish his name.. But why is it the system only protects women?…
/r/MensRights06/06/26 06:03 AM
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She would likely be declared judgement proof. As in she probably lacks the income., savings or otherwise to pay any judgement set against her by the courts... So while he possibly could try it.. likely it would be a hollow victory as he would simply end up paying lawyers money that he wouldn't get back at all..
/r/MensRights06/06/26 06:01 AM
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Sure, I agree that he is still a piece of shit.. But the point here is that he was being falsely accused of a crime that did not happen.. Yes, she SHOULD have reported him for filming and distributing the act and I would have 100% supported her on that.. But no.. she went the tactical nuclear option of accusing him of Rape Most likely because: - The crime of rape is seen as far more heinous and so he would get a longer prison sentence for it - She knew that if evidence came to light to disprove …
/r/MensRights06/06/26 05:59 AM
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I saw the movie with my sister yesterday and I was prepared for it to be a feminist gender studies lecture in disguise.. But honestly, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as I thought it was going to be.. Sure, there are some undertones there like Skeletor being an obvious example of "Toxic Masculinity" or even Adam's father also being an example of it.. But through all of that it was still an enjoyable movie and there were enough references and nods to the fanbase that I was pleasantly surprised
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/26 10:47 PM
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Are we also arguing about semantics regarding the other gendered terms feminists have / continue to use? - Toxic MASCULINITY - MANsplaining - MANspreading - MANterrupting - MANkeeping - The MALE Gaze Please kindly explain how all of those are perfectly legitimate terms which only apply to men and thus need to be gendered after men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/26 07:25 PM
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If that's the case their excuse is as weak as their bladder.
/r/MensRights05/06/26 07:18 PM
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I mean do you accept that there is (and certainly was) a need to look at systemic issues specifically affecting women? I think if you can see that there are systemic issues facing men then it's not too much of a stretch to see that there are/were different issues affecting women in a similar way. Sure, I agree that there are systemic issues specifically affecting women and a need to look into those I hear what you are saying here. The reason for the name is because feminism is specifically inter…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/26 07:18 PM
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Respectfully I disagree.. Despite the "Claims" of feminists regarding feminism being a "Movement for equality" I feel that it will never be the case.. If the end goal is equality, why is the name of the movement gendered after women? Surely if equality is the main goal then the label of the movement should be gender neutral to reflect the stated outcomes of the movement right? That has always been the bait and switch.. Feminists make the claim about feminism being about equality or being for men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/26 01:08 AM
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Yep, they only care about "Gendered Language" when it potentially disadvantages women.. When it has negative association with men its perfectly fine...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/26 01:03 AM
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Its a clear double standard.. We can't use the job term / description: FireMAN or PoliceMAN or MailMAN or ChairMAN etc because that denotes that those are jobs only men are capable of doing.. So we have to make those job titles gender neutral! Fire Fighter, Police Officer, Mail Person, Chair Person (or just Chair) But at the same time they can totally come up and use gendered terms like "The Patriarchy", "Toxic Masculinity", "Mansplaining", "Manspreading" and "Manterrupting" and those are absolu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 09:21 PM
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It happens all the time.. Just look at what happened at the Taylor Swift concert in Australia where women barged in and took over male rest rooms because they had "Greater need of them" And yet, if a man were to even accidentally enter a woman's rest room he is instantly screamed at, labeled a pervert etc.. The overarching idea here is: "Women's spaces are inviolate / sacred and only women are allowed into them Men's spaces however are nothing special and women can take them over if they perceiv…
/r/MensRights04/06/26 08:59 PM
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Why use the feminist label at all? If you believe in the concept of gender equality then simply say that you are an egalitarian.. But sadly, if you do.. you'll find that most women who identify as feminists will denounce you for it. In their minds if you are not a "Feminist" you are "The Enemy"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 08:54 PM
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From my understanding, many feminists believe that we live in a "Patriarchy" and due to that Men as a whole are out to oppress them. Mean while from an Men's rights perspective.. I have actively seen feminists implement laws / policies which are directly discriminatory towards men. Just look at how feminists drafted, published and established The Duluth Model of Domestic Violence. And, despite the fact the model has been debunked over and over again there has been zero effort from feminists to r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 08:50 PM
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That's been something that has never sit well with me.. Why is it that feminists are the ones who are allowed to define what is "Toxic Masculinity" and what is "Positive Masculinity" After all, we've all heard the saying "No uterus, no opinion" when it comes to discussions about abortions right? Well certainly the same can be said when it comes to masculinity or anything to do with men right? "No penis, no opinion"... But over and over and over again we get told about how we are exhibiting "Toxi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 11:24 AM
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I don't know what to do about it but I like to believe that if moderate MRAs and feminists sat down and actually listened to each other they would agree on the important stuff and at least understand the differing beliefs. The problem would be, for any sort of discussion to take place it both sides would have to agree on on a few things first: - We agree that we all live in a system that oppresses or discriminates against men, women, non-binary and people of minorities in different ways. - We ag…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 11:20 AM
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Oligarchy is indeed closer to the truth.. The problem is, I feel that feminists will not entertain the notion of us living in an "Oligarchy" without attaching "Maleness" to it.. e.g. I can see them accepting that we live in a "Patriarchal Oligarchy" but that doesn't really change things does it? They would still hyper fixate on the "Patriarchal" part and we wouldn't be any further off.. I prefer "Oligarchy" precisely because its gender neutral and because it allows us to examine how women are in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 11:12 AM
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As I said, the goal is to make it seem like every single time a woman is killed its "Femicide" mean while when a man is killed its nothing special. Then, once they are done fearmongering they can then push governments to consider "Femicide" a "Pandemic" and push for laws / policies which result in harsher sentences for those found guilty of "Femicide" The fact that the majority of those who will likely be found guilty are men is absolutely not lost on them at all...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 09:13 AM
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I do agree with you somewhat.. With that said I have seen more than a few self labeled feminists on this and other subs parrot the same old talking points or essentially concern trolling us... "You don't understand! Feminists are not your enemy! We all suffer under The Patriarchy! If you could only understand that we could work on making things better!" or "And who is it primarily committing violence against men? 'Other Men!'" or telling us how we are being ignorant / deliberately misunderstandi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 09:11 AM
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When a woman is violent towards a man it is considered acceptable to say: "I wonder what HE said or did to deserve that" Yet the same is NOT acceptable for us to say when its a man hitting a woman. That right there shows you where society's focus is on.. We have been conditioned for decades on how its not acceptable for men to be violent towards women. Yet, at the same time, women being violent towards men has become normalized. often through justifications like what I posted above as well as: "…
/r/MensRights04/06/26 03:43 AM
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When that happens I have no problem pointing out the hypocrisy in their statements. And look, I'm actually 100% okay with feminism being a movement exclusively for women's rights / issues. But, if that's the case then feminists need to: - Stop lying about their movement being for "Equality" or "For Men Too" - Stop gatekeeping "Equality" If they are focusing on women's rights / issues then they need to step aside and let Men and MRA's have access to resources so that we can try to resolve our iss…
/r/MensRights03/06/26 07:15 PM
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And yet they will claim that its "Men" who are causing the harm to infant boys.. Completely ignoring how often single mothers will make the decision to inflict that pain on their child... But yeah, That is yet another example of the blatant double standard at play.
/r/MensRights03/06/26 11:07 AM
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To be honest, while it may seem silly to quantify everything you say.. I feel that ultimately its the best course of action as it means there is no ambiguity in what you are saying. I also feel extremely frustrated when it comes to generalizations.. Women are allowed to generalize men and when we say: "Hey, that's not fair!" or "Not all men" we get accused of "De-railing" (We also aren't allowed to say: "Men are not a monolith") But the moment we make even the smallest generalization about women…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 09:42 PM
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Oh that's rich! You made a big song and dance about me putting words in your mouth. Please.. point out ONE instance in this thread where I claimed: - Men struggle more than women - Women are to blame for men's struggles You can't because I NEVER SAID OR CLAIMED THOSE THINGS You really are a bad faith hypocrite aren't you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 09:37 PM
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Or the idea that "Men must pay for dates" They want to be seen as equal to men, paid equally to men but they expect men to pay for them on dates to make them feel special.. The idea of splitting the bill in the name of "Equality" is often labeled a "Red Flag"
/r/MensRights02/06/26 09:28 PM
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And all the while they will gaslight you by claiming: "Feminism is a movement for equality!" And "Feminism is for men too!" All while proving the opposite of those statements are the truth.
/r/MensRights02/06/26 09:26 PM
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Gender roles for thee, not for me!
/r/MensRights02/06/26 09:25 PM
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Worse than that! Look at those statements.. Note how they aren't generalizations due to the quantifiers used "Many", and "Sometimes" Unlike the typical feminist narrative of "Men are abusers!" (implying "ALL" Men) I look at those statements and find myself agreeing with all of them.. Except the statement of Domestic Violence, that one is the only outlier.. because they are true statements. The biggest standout of those statements would be the "Denial of gender equality" Well i'm sorry.. but when…
/r/MensRights02/06/26 09:23 PM
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Well, if nothing else, the fact that I manage to reach out to other people reading this thread helps me believe my time was not wasted here and I'm glad my arguments gave you much to think about. I will admit upon reflection here that my responses were more aggressive or hostile than what I would normally respond with. But I just get so frustrated when those who self identify as feminists come into our space and their arguments essentially boil down to: 'Nuh uh! you're wrong! The system hurts ev…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 08:49 PM
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Not every feminist shares the same views or has the same attitude. Just because I self identify as a feminist doesn’t mean it gives people permission to mischaracterise me and attack me based on things other feminists have said. Isn’t that one of the things male advocates are fighting against? Being painted with the same brush based on identity? Except for you know.. the part where you use the EXACT same talking points feminists use all the time.. 1: "Who setup the system? Men!" - You made this …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 07:38 AM
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And you have ducked and dodged and weaved out of answering my questions at every turn. Answer me clearly: Are we allowed to blame feminism and feminists for the actions and policies they have initiated / actioned which cause ACTUAL harm to men? Because like it or not FEMINISTS have caused ACTUAL harm to men. Are we also not allowed to hold women who LIE about being raped accountable for their disgusting lies? Are we also not allowed to hold women who DO commit paternity fraud accountable for the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 07:26 AM
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4 The majority of murder victims are actually men but most of the timd they are killed by other men And how often is it the case that these "Other Men" were recruited by a woman to commit the violence / killing on her behalf? Or do we simply ignore that because it makes you uncomfortable?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 03:45 AM
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Your "words": Okay fair. But I think rather than there being a nefarious motive behind the misuse/weaponisation of the term, it’s really just women being fed up with men complaining to them about men’s issues as if the average woman played/plays a role in creating & upholding the system that created them. And does this work in the other direction at all? I as a man am fucking SICK AND TIRED of CONSTANTLY being blamed for every fucking thing wrong in this world as if I personally am in full contr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 01:26 AM
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So I guess the things I mentioned above have NOTHING to do with Feminism / Feminists and the blame lies squarely on "The Patriarchy" right? Am I saying that Feminism and Feminists are responsible for everything? No, i'm not.. But here you are acting as though every single issue we as men face is caused by "The Patriarchy" or "Men" and Women / Feminists aren't to blame at all.. Please explain how: - False Rape Accusations are because of "The Patriarchy" when its mostly if not near exclusively wom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 01:22 AM
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You’d have more if you were less combative with women and more focused on the actual cause of all of our collective suffering Okay.. so please explain to me how we are going to bring a light to MALE victims of Domestic Violence when FEMINISTS control the narrative around domestic violence? Because it was FEMINISTS who drafted, created, published and pushed for the uptake of the Duluth Model of Domestic Violence, a model which assumes that in ALL cases of domestic violence in heterosexual couples…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 12:27 AM
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An example is when men tell feminists or women in general that men have to go to war while women don’t, or that women and children get priority in certain situations, it’s like…why are you complaining to women about that? That’s why we say “yes, that’s the patriarchy” or “who set up that system?”. The implication here is that the man complaining about how only men get sent off to war or how women and children receive priority in certain situations is somehow complicit or was an active entity in …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 12:19 AM
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They also ignore the fact that women are more likely to recruit "Other Men" to commit their violence for them.. When this happens I still classify it as "Female on Male Violence" because it was HER choices and actions that led to the violence.. Also, women can do a lot of damage when armed with any form of weapon, be it a gun, a knife, a baseball bat, a hammer or even a car.. I'm sure there are many instances of Female on Male violence that involved a woman running a man over with the car she wa…
/r/MensRights01/06/26 08:39 PM
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Yes, but in your example of the Ukraine, that Isn't what is happening.. Men are being forced to fight and die for their country.. while the women are allowed to flee.. Surely they could enforce a conscription on women to force them to stay and work the factories right?
/r/MensRights31/05/26 11:27 PM
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The problem is that there was no nuance or vetting done.. The campaign simply had women give white feathers to men whom they thought were fit and able to shame them into enlisting.. There were many men who had physical disabilities that made them incapable of fighting that were given white feathers.. Did those men deserve to be shamed for something beyond their control? No, they did not.. But like with anything regarding men there was ZERO nuance done and only assumptions made.. Also it whole th…
/r/MensRights31/05/26 08:45 PM
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While feminism may have begun with good intentions, it very quickly got de-railed from its proposed Egalitarian views and has shifted into full on women supremacy and man bashing. Just look at the constant Kafka Traps used by feminists. For those who don't know, a Kafka Trap is a logical fallacy and manipulation tactic where your denial of an accusation is twisted into proof that the accusation is true. A classic example of this is when feminists make sweeping generalizations about men Like: "Al…
/r/MensRights29/05/26 09:57 PM
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FGM is not a safe practice at all. I never said it was? So you are putting words in my mouth there.. Also, there are many instances of Male Circumcision being performed by non-medically tried people like Rabbi's.. There are also instances where the Rabbi will put their mouth on the child's circumcised penis and suck the blood out which is not only completely unsanitary, and an infection risk but i'm pretty sure that would EASILY meet even the basic definition of "Rape" And yet its allowed and tr…
/r/MensRights29/05/26 06:36 AM
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I didn't say you did either. I was making a point that feminists constantly treat ALL men like we are some sort of monolithic hive mind.. You know the same thing you are accusing us of doing right now?
/r/MensRights29/05/26 06:29 AM
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Feminists generalize men based on our gender.. We generalize feminists based on their ideology.. That is not an apples to apples comparison.. Anyone can stop being a feminist at any time.. But I can't just snap my fingers and say "I'm no longer a man"
/r/MensRights29/05/26 04:36 AM
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So what exactly are feminists and feminism doing in regards to these issues!? After all, have we not been told all these years: "Feminism is a movement for equality' and "Feminism is for men too!" If that's the case then i'm sorry but feminism as a whole has utterly FAILED in those stated goals. Also, the examples I listed are examples of FEMINISTS directly causing harm / disadvantage to men.. You don't get to claim "Oh that doesn't represent all of feminism" Because frankly if that's the case t…
/r/MensRights29/05/26 04:33 AM
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Hello, my comment is in the list of screenshots here, it's in the fourth image. If you read through the comment again you'll see that the response is entirely positive and in no way victim blaming him. Lets investigate your claim closely shall we? Your post in question: You already answered all your question in the original post, friend. "Why would I do that just because another man did?" You wouldn't. That's the thing" you're not like the men who do awful, atrocious things that have given us su…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/26 04:11 AM
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I think the idea is to attribute any and ALL cases of women being killed as "Femicide" That way they can proclaim it a "Pandemic" and push for laws which punish "Femicide" harsher than standard "Homicide" At least that's my tinfoil hat theory of the day...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/26 03:50 AM
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And no real Men's Right Activist believes that Rape doesn't happen.. Or that Misogyny isn't a problem.. Yet we all get lumped together and told we are "Part of the problem"
/r/MensRights29/05/26 12:57 AM
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Yes, men are more often falsely accused of rape (beacuse they are more litery to rape...) Thank you for proving to me and everyone that you lack ANY form of critical thinking skills. You are full of absolute SHIT! Men are "Not" more likely to rape.. The only reason you make this claim at all is because in many countries the crime of "Rape" is SPECIFICALLY gender coded to be a crime that ONLY men can commit. Ergo, If Rape is a crime that only men can commit then obviously the statistics are going…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/26 12:32 AM
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The majority of men don't do anything to deserve the hate, I agree. But enough do bad enough to warrant skepticism and fear from women as a precaution, especially women who have been abused/attacked/mistreated by us. And the majority of women do not falsely accuse men of rape, nor do the majority of women commit paternity fraud.. But by your "Logic" the fact that "enough" women have done these things, we as men would be justified in being cautious around ALL women, especially men who have gone t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 10:30 PM
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100% this! Not only that but this is a perfect example of how we as men are constantly living within a "Damned if we do, Damned if we don't" dichotomy. If we open up about our mental struggles / issues we are told we are "Trauma dumping" or "Saddling women with emotional labor" or "Treating women as our therapists" But if we don't open up we are exhibiting "Toxic Masculinity" Couple that with the constant Kafka trap's we navigate on a daily basis: "Yes, ALL Men", "All men are rapists" etc where …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 10:19 PM
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Sure, modern feminism has lost its focus on equality. The draft being a prime example. That's not their responsibility to fix. I'm sorry but hasn't Feminism and Feminists been telling us for decades now that Feminism: "Is a movement for Equality" and "Feminism is for men too!" If that's true then yes it is ABSOLUTELY "Their responsibility" to fix issues like The Draft and Male Circumcision.. If that's not the case i'm fine with that too. HOWEVER! If feminism is NOT about "Equality" and is rather…
/r/MensRights28/05/26 10:09 PM
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"male SA happens all the time" that's funny you say that because none of my male friends told me they ever experienced it upon being asked. Because we as men have been conditioned to NOT tell people about it? Because doing so makes us "Weak" I can guarantee you that a decent amount of your male friends have probably experienced "Rape" or "Sexual Assault" at the hands of women but due to their conditioning have internalized it as something that simply happens and not something to be shared or con…
/r/MensRights28/05/26 10:06 PM
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The feminists who petitioned the United Nations to have "Female Circumcision" reclassified as "Female Genital Mutilation" and for the practice to be outlawed? If they were against "Circumcision" fundamentally then surely they could have also requested the United Nations classify "Male Circumcision" as "Male Genital Mutilation" and push for it to be outlawed as well right? Nah, that was apparently "Too hard" or we get told "Well actually, FMG is worse!" Many feminists tend to fall into the "But F…
/r/MensRights28/05/26 10:02 PM
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Oh boy.. buckle up friend! 1) The Duluth Model - FEMINISTS drafted, published and pushed for the uptake of the Duluth Model of Domestic Violence, a model which ASSUMES that in ALL cases of domestic violence in heterosexual couples the man is ALWAYS the abuser / aggressor and the woman is ALWAYS the victim. This model has been the basis for domestic violence initiatives in multiple countries around the world. One of the original authors even admitted that the model was based on their assumptions …
/r/MensRights28/05/26 09:58 PM
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I REALLY hate the "By other men" argument.. Its not "Other Men" falsely accusing men of rape Its not "Other Men" Who are marking boy's work as lesser than the work submitted by girls in school Also, the "By Other Men" argument shuts ignores the fact that women are more likely to recruit "Other Men" to commit violence on their behalf by proxy. Yet, when this happens the fact the men were hired / recruited by a woman to commit the violence is ignored in is instead treated as an example of Men expe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 07:18 PM
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I don't accept that for a second! Imagine if they did a survey of men and found that 40% of college men would be wiling to sleep with a woman without her consent. There would be NO "Nuance" from women / feminists between "Being willing to" and "Actually doing" They would take that statistic, run with it and use it as evidence of "Rape Culture" I also disagree that its not something we need to focus on. Once again that would be minimizing / trivializing False Accusations which is exactly what the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 07:12 PM
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There is an issue is with those people who use phrases like "equal rights equal fights" and make content about it, which doesn't help at all, if we could peacefully address the offensive trope instead of making those sexist and misogynistic "equal rights equal fights" videos, we would have progressed even more into countering the issue. While I agree that the "Equal Rights, Equal Fights" is problematic.. I can also see where it comes from. It often comes from a place of frustration where men hav…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 11:52 PM
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Oh, trust me, I'm firmly in the camp that both FGM and MGM are horrible and BOTH should have been stopped and outlawed decades ago.. But that's the mentality we are fighting.. Even if our position is: "We don't think one is worse than the other, we think both are horrible and both should be stopped" We get push back and told "No, FGM is MUCH worse" They simply refuse to listen to any form of reason.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 11:16 PM
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It also explains why instead of tackling Circumcision as equally hard / ferociously as we expect FGM to be tackled.. instead more and more effort is put into deflection and minimization.. They know that ending circumcision would hurt their bottom line and so they focus massive levels of effort into downplaying the harm it causes.. or hide behind "Religious / Cultural practices" (even though most FGM was ALSO performed under "Religious" or "Cultural" reasons) Or how the focus is on how FGM is "Wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 05:41 AM
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Also consider for a moment that women are more likely to engage in violence by proxy Aka hiring or recruiting "Other Men" (as many feminists like to put it) to commit their violence for them.. But I often find this fact to be omitted from many discussions.. Also, while I do not deny that "Femicide" is a thing.. I feel that like many other terms (Read: Misogyny, Incel, Toxic Masculinity etc) it has been misused over and over again.. The fact that many countries are looking to introduce "Femicide …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/26 05:40 AM
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Sure, I can agree with that.. However that would also mean that police NEED to understand that yes, Women CAN inflict violence or commit sexual based crimes just as men can... But our current society has been utterly brainwashed to believe that ONLY men are "violent" or "commit rape / sexual assault" And i'm tired of living in a world where male victims are continuously downplayed and minimized because society has decreed that men can only be "Abusers / Aggressors" and can only be classified as …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/26 05:34 AM
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I would add: - It is up to you to take actions / make decisions to protect your feelings from getting hurt This is mostly in regards to the idea that men should not walk behind a woman or cross the street / take a different route to make her "Feel" safe. In this world the only person who has control over your feelings is you.. stop trying to outsource this onto random strangers. - When the police ask "What were you wearing" its not so they can judge you or claim that you somehow "deserved" what …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/26 11:41 PM
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fathers who actually seek custody win sole or joint custody about 70% of the time (Florida State University Law Review) And you conveniently leave out the FACT that these fathers often have to pay MASSIVE sums of money to fight for custody... And of course men who lack the money to fight for custody and thus give up are simply labeled as "Dead beats" or listed as "They clearly didn't want custody" Because that inconvenient fact would interfere with the narrative you are pushing right? ‘forced to…
/r/MensRights25/05/26 11:31 PM
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Thank you for missing my point completely My point Is: "Just because something happened in the past or is "Old News" according to you, that doesn't automatically make it irrelevant" I don't understand how that seems to be such a difficult concept for you to grasp? Do you tell black people to "Stop bringing up old news" when it comes to them discussing how they faced historical discrimination? No, I suspect you don't because you know it would be fucked up to tell them to "Stop moaning about old n…
/r/MensRights25/05/26 06:46 AM
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This is a topic that is close to me because I am a man who has had negative and even traumatic experiences with women. I have NEVER used those experiences as justification for treating all women as dangerous.. I am personally cautious around women in my life but I don't go around on social media saying "I had these negative experiences with women and because of that I am now cautious around all women and all men should be cautious too!!" And that's what I feel the crux of the issue is. I can acc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 10:40 PM
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The issue is, we have for over 2 decades now have been hearing about how oppressed women are and how ALL men are "Privileged" Or even that we as men face oppression or discrimination at all. Yet this list makes it clear that yes, we as men DO face oppression and discrimination. And sure we shouldn't be arguing over which gender is more oppressed and should instead agree that ALL genders face oppression, discrimination and unique struggles and we should work at resolving those issues. We shouldn'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 10:25 PM
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27. 40% of college women polled said they would happily make a malicious accusation. Bertsch, S., Matthews, K. Lies and imagined intent to lie: Personality, sexism beliefs and false claims of assault. Curr Psychol 42, 9810–9818 (2023). https://doi.org/10.1007/s12144-021-02278-2 And yet.. how often are we gaslit and told "False Accusations are actually very rare!" But 40% of college women being willing / happy to make a malicious or false accusation against men? That is NOT "Rare" And yet, instea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 10:16 PM
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The story is 12 years old... And has anything actually changed in those 12 years? Has the system improved to the point where this story is no longer relevant? No.. it hasn't Men are to this day still treated as walking ATM's and forced to pay child support often without any associated right or formalized custody arrangements... Just because its "Old" doesn't make it irrelevant
/r/MensRights24/05/26 10:06 PM
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The problem is, we are damned if we do, damned if we don't.. If we say "Not all men" they use it as evidence against us.. If we ignore them generalizing all men then our silence is taken as evidence of them being right.. Its literally a no win scenario for us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 06:02 AM
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And yet.. of course we are not allowed to say "Not all women, but always A woman" when it comes to things like False Rape Accusations or Paternity Fraud... Despite it being extremely clear that yes, it's mostly if not near exclusively women doing those things.. "We know it's not all men but we don't know which one of you is safe" And same logic applies to men generalizing women.. We don't know which women are going to falsely accuse us of rape, or cheat on us and make us raise a child / children…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/26 05:37 AM
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Its ironic, They want to saddle ALL men with collective guilt for the crimes "Men" commit against Women.. But of course we aren't allowed to saddle ALL women with collective guilt / blame for the crimes women commit against men.. If a woman makes a deliberate false accusation against a man we aren't allowed to hold "ALL" women accountable or responsible.. If a woman commits paternity fraud, we aren't allowed to hold ALL women accountable.. Yet the moment a man rapes a woman or even hits a women …
/r/MensRights22/05/26 11:49 AM
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This clearly falls under the "No Shit" files.. In today's dating market / pool a solid 90%+ of the risk is on boys / men.. And what they get out of it frankly.. just isn't worth the risk anymore.. If I want love / affection I can get that from a cat or a dog Why would I ever think of dating a woman when she can ruin my life with a single accusation? or if we end up in a relationship and get married she can divorce me, take half my stuff, half my savings and potentially force me to be a walking A…
/r/MensRights21/05/26 02:15 AM
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Just look at the controversy that rose up when it came to the first season of the Anime: "The Rising of The Shield Hero" where in the main character is the victim of a false accusation of Sexual Assault / Rape by another character and is ostracized by the other hero's / people of the kingdom. He's later vindicated but I remember when it came out there was A LOT of blow back from many women / feminists who claimed that the anime is making it seem like false accusations are common.. They even call…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/26 02:09 AM
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And yet, when someone falsely accuses someone else of a different crime like Theft for example it doesn't carry the same weight or social stigma that the accusation of rape does.. It also doesn't help that those who make false accusations very rarely if ever face any actual repercussions from doing so. The legal system is so heavily skewed and biased in the favor of women that it allows women to raise false accusations and get away with them. Usually the only time a woman faces consequences is w…
/r/MensRights21/05/26 02:02 AM
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And of course.. when they squirrel away thousands of dollars in a secret bank account while insisting that they can't help pay for expenses and they get found out women will leap to their defense of "She needs that money in case she needs to escape!" "A man being uncomfortable with a woman doing is is coercive and controlling and proof of why women need to do it!" Oh and lets not forget the classic 'Pay gap" they harp on about all while ignoring the fact that women control the majority of househ…
/r/MensRights19/05/26 11:26 PM
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The idea isn't asserting that men or masculinity are toxic. Except that is EXACTLY how the term is being used over and over and over again.. The term has warped and is now used as a catch all for anything a man says or does which a woman doesn't agree with or even takes offense with. A man scratching his balls or butt in public? TOXIC MASCULINITY!!!! A man telling a woman she's wrong about something? TOXIC MASCULINITY!!!! I also note that we have a heavy focus on "Toxic Masculinity" yet when you…
/r/MensRights18/05/26 11:05 PM
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You beat me to it! And that being said your post is much more informative than mine anyway! Take my up vote!
/r/MensRights17/05/26 11:33 PM
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Okay then.. so I guess the Feminists who drafted, published and pushed for the uptake of The Duluth Model of Domestic Violence aren't "Real" Feminists then? This model has all but single-handedly erased male victims of domestic violence from the statistics. This is because this model assumes that in ALL cases of domestic violence in heterosexual couples the man is ALWAYS the abuser / aggressor while the woman is ALWAYS the victim. And yet, despite even one of the original authors of this model a…
/r/MensRights17/05/26 10:41 PM
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They act all surprised that men as a whole have begun to check out and have stopped putting in the effort. Well, what's the point of navigating the minefield that is today's dating? Why should men bother when in the end we're still being generalized, vilified and demonized? If I want companionship I can get it from a pet.. I get all the benefits with next to none of the downsides.. Dating in today's society is an insane prospect for boys / men Men are still expected to handle rejected with digni…
/r/MensRights16/05/26 10:27 PM
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This is the state of our society.. Thanks to #MeToo and #BelieveALLWomen our society is now in a state of moral panic... Any accusation by a girl / woman must be taken as 100% factually true and any suggestion of requiring facts or evidence slapped back with claims of you "Silencing Victims" or trying to "Victim Blame" Even then, it seems like no matter what evidence you can bring up to refute the accusation its never "Enough" because society has been utterly brainwashed to believe that women an…
/r/MensRights16/05/26 04:58 AM
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I see so many people (women and men) who walk around town like this, eyes glued to their phones not paying attention to the world around them.. Hell, i've had to reach out and pull someone back onto the sidewalk when they walked without looking into traffic! But try to say that people should be expected to protect themselves from danger is akin to saying that they deserve to be victimized apparently...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/26 06:30 AM
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And of course.. being an egalitarian society the same defense would TOTALLY be applied to a man who killed his female partner in the "Heat of passion upon a sudden quarrel" right? Yeah.. no... I suspect not!
/r/MensRights13/05/26 06:28 AM
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I am sorry that happened to you, Truly I am. You are also correct in regards to being taught to keep yourself safe. Personally I think everyone has a duty of care / responsibility to themselves when it comes to keeping themself safe. Yet, we constantly hear from feminists and women about how women should be told "Don't walk down dark allies" or "Cross the street if you see someone weird approaching you" I would also add onto that: "Don't walk around with earbuds / headphones on" and "Don't walk …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 09:30 PM
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There are also plenty of true crime stories about women who hired hit men to kill their husband / partner or were caught in a police / FBI sting.. You watch the interrogation footage and they cry on demand and when the trap closes and the reveal that their husband / partner was not actually killed they still try to cry and squirm out of it. I saw one true crime video of a guy who fell for one of those inheritance scams, thought he was getting 30million Euro's His partner murdered him to get all …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 09:21 PM
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And feminists absolutely say "False Rape Accusations are extremely rare" to deflect from the issue that there ARE women who lie.. And yet those feminists don't see where our anger comes from in regards to false rape accusations.. instead they continue to gaslight and shout about how "Rare" they are..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 09:12 PM
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Now, back again, feminicide is real. And it happens a lot. Define what you mean by femicide.. Also please explain how we identify a woman's death was specifically a "Femicide" I'm not saying that femicide isn't real, however I do doubt it being "Common" or that women are being killed BECAUSE of their gender.. If that is the case then surely the majority of male deaths should be classified as "Mascucide" or "Androcide" right? After all, i'm sure there are plenty of men who are killed simply becau…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 09:10 PM
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>"I believe the reason why women watch so much true crime content is to help us recognise any warning signs. It's self preservation at its core. The more you learn, the more you know The women in all those stories are us.... It's a lived, shared experience we all have. All women know someone or knows someone who knows someone that's experienced something" And yet.. we aren't allowed to say: "All men know someone or knows someone who knows someone that was falsely accused of rape... Nah.. the "Li…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 07:36 PM
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This is something i've been saying for years! We've heard over and over and over about how women have a "right" to be prejudiced towards men due to their lived experiences.. But of course the same does not hold true for men.. If a man has had negative experiences with a / some women.. he's expected to put it behind him and not generalize women based off his lived experience.. If he does generalize based on his lived experience he's a "Misogynist" As a man who has had some extremely bad experienc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 09:22 AM
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I also don't like that framing.. but I feel it needed to be said.. They constantly demonize, vilify and generalize men as "Abusers" and "Aggressors" or claim that we are "Controlling" But in reality, thanks to how sheltered they have been they don't know just how bad it "Could" be if men as a whole said "Fuck it, we're done, lets show you what 'Oppression' really looks like" I would seriously hope that it would never come to that to be fair.. And yeah.. whenever I hear a feminist parrot the talk…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 05:16 AM
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100% this! I would also add how there seems to be the expectation that ALL men are responsible.. But as a man in New Zealand.. I don't exactly have any power or control over a man in the US who rapes a woman now do I? I can call him out and condemn his actions.. but I literally could not stop him from raping a woman.. But that doesn't seem to be enough for them.. My "Failure" to act is an indictment of "Complicity" according to them.. I've literally given up at this point.. I feel like i'm damne…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/26 09:36 PM
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If I could award multiple upvotes you'd be getting them! You have articulated all of my constant frustrations with feminism neatly.. as you said, they demand ally-ship from men while not having a single clue of even what an "Alliance" is or how it works.. Men are expected to be obedient bootlickers who take the abuse with a smile on their face.. Any man who gets upset or speaks out is shamed, labeled as an incel or misogynist and kicked out. Feminists literally do not understand that there is on…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/26 09:22 PM
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She declared that men and boys had declared war against all femalekind. The funny thing is.. she doesn't even realize that if we as men finally decide enough is enough.. we could easily subjugate "Femalekind" She doesn't realize that the very same men she collectively blames are also the same men protecting her and other women from the "bad" men. "It is not our sole responsibility to not die. It is mostly the responsibility of the people raping and killing us" And here is where she completely lo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/26 09:10 PM
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Richard Reeves is a hypocrite He CLAIMS to be an advocate for men but how can that be when he is NOT advocating to fix issues boys / men face and is instead capitulating / essentially licking the boots of feminists? His idea of "Advocacy" is based on the idea that he can only advocate on issues that men face if the outcome will be beneficial for women. And if he can't or wont advocate on Male Circumcision because he finds it too hard or contentious then how effective of an "Advocate" is he in th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/26 11:26 PM
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My dude.. you really don't know what you are doing here do you? You are boldly asking "wHeRe iS yOuR eViDeNcE?" when the OP has not claimed that it is.. The OP is not saying "Hey! SA and Rape are not as traumatic for men as it is for women" He's asking a QUESTION And asking a QUESTION does not require them to back it up with evidence... They are making an OBSERVATION that it appears that SA and Rape appears to be less traumatic for men compared to women and are asking questions while providing a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/26 09:57 PM
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If you want another example.. then simply watch the staunchest feminist turn into a conservative tradcon woman the moment she gets told that she has to pay child support or alimony to her ex-male partner.. In the blink of an eye they suddenly see how "Unfair" those systems are when they are the ones getting shafted by the system...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/26 09:47 PM
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Because as men we are conditioned to not see ourselves as victims.. Because typically being a "Victim" means you are weak.. Or if you admit that you were Sexually Assaulted or Raped by woman there's the shame of being considered so "Weak" that a woman can SA you.. Couple onto that the fact that if a man even attempts to come forward he is often not believed or shamed into thinking what happened to him was a "Good" thing.. Add all of that together and you have the basis of what you are experienci…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/26 04:50 AM
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For me, I’ve actually always thought the opposite. I think us men actually don’t know we’re not safe, and that’s why we take needless risks. Cause no one acknowledges that we’re not safe. So men simply don’t learn that we’re not. I do think there is some amount of bravado or recklessness when it comes to men.. That being said, I'm sure there are also many men who are scared who put up a facade of confidence to make them seem like less of a target. It also doesn't help that in our society men can…
/r/MensRights08/05/26 11:50 PM
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I genuinely can't understand why you think men and boys on a population scale don't have more power than women and girls. - Men have shorter expected life spans than women - Men get longer prison sentences on average compared to women - Men are more likely to be given jail sentences compared to women - The crime of "Rape" is gender coded to be a crime that ONLY MEN can commit - When men are victims of violence it is often dismissed as being by "Other Men", when men are victims of violence at the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/26 11:09 PM
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I think the problem here is, we as men know that we aren't safe and thus we actively take precautions to keep ourselves safe. We also don't let fear control our lives.. This comes across as a lack of fear rather than us being in control Hence why they make the baseless claim of "Men don't have to fear walking down the street alone at night" What staggers me is the number of women I see walking around with headphones on or noise cancelling earbuds in either looking down at their phones or simply …
/r/MensRights08/05/26 10:51 PM
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Oh really? (1) A person (A) commits an offence if— (a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis, (b) B does not consent to the penetration, and (c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents. Note the bold part... Now forgive me.. but which gender has a penis again? This definition is PERFECTLY CLEAR that it considers that ONLY men can commit the crime of rape because ONLY MEN (and Transwomen) have penises..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/26 09:59 AM
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Teacher sacked from one of England's most outstanding state schools FOR RAPING TEEN BOY I fixed the headline.. Why is it so fucking difficult for them to call it what we all know it is? And yes.. i'm aware that in the Uterus Kingdom, the crime of Rape expressly and only applies to boys / men... Its just so fucking disgusting to me. Edit: Despite the letter not naming the teacher, it is believed the vast majority of pupils and parents are now aware the letter concerns her. I would ask all familie…
/r/MensRights08/05/26 04:57 AM
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Feminists have and continue to campaign for women to have all the same rights / benefits men receive whilst also having none of the associated responsibilities while maintaining the accountability of children. No where else is this more stark and clear than the legal / justice system.. When a woman commits a crime she isn't accountable because "A man forced her to do it When a man commits a crime however, he is always 100% responsible for his own actions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/26 12:17 AM
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When I say "Our society" i'm talking about "Western Society" as a general rule of thumb. Even in the US, how is the repealing of Roe Vs Wade not a result of patriarchy? For the record despite the fact that I don't live in the US, I was heavily against Roe Vs Wade being overturned. Also, note how it is framed as "Men wanting to control women's bodies" yet how many WOMEN pushed for and voted for Roe Vs Wade to be overturned? Because it wasn't JUST men doing it. Also, from another point of view.. e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 11:01 PM
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Yep.. That is a complete embarrassment as far as my country goes.. Its very much an example of "Rules for He, not for She" Our justice system is already broken, treating criminals as though they are the true victims in all of it.. But if you're going to commit a crime in New Zealand, being a woman is a massive advantage and means you are less likely to actually see any jail time.. Instead they will sentence you to the dreaded and much feared "Home Detention" which we are told is "Just as harsh a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 10:46 PM
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You would think so.. But then again that isn't how things actually work In New Zealand we have the crime of "Assault" which is firmly defined Yet we also have the crime: "Male Assaults Female" which is essentially the same as standard "Assault" but the penalties are harsher... Yet when a woman attacks a man its simply classified as "Assault" and she faces less penalties for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 09:55 PM
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Worse.. If someone tries to open up a male only gym one of two things happens: 1) Women protest it as "Sexist" until it gets shut down 2) Women protest when they are denied membership and eventually they are forced to cave in and open up membership to women. That's how it usually goes.. and this applies to essentially ALL male only spaces.. We as men are simply not allowed to have our own spaces because they are deemed "Den's of Misogyny" But women of course are allowed to have their own spaces …
/r/MensRights07/05/26 12:57 PM
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Hahah false.....
/r/MensRights07/05/26 12:51 PM
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This is a Men's Right's sub.. so we care about Men's Rights and when those rights are abused or denied.. Circumcision is a violation of boys / men's rights to bodily autonomy (a right which the UN has solidified for women btw) So us bringing up the fact that Circumcision still happens is "ridiculous" according to you? I get that you don't see it as a big deal.. but that also doesn't make it "ridiculous"
/r/MensRights07/05/26 12:51 PM
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I agree that in the past our society WAS closer to what feminists describe as a "Patriarchy" I disagree completely with the concept that our society today is STILL as patriarchal as they describe.. Just because I deny the concept that we live in a Patriarchy today, that doesn't mean our society wasn't in the past more patriarchal... Please point to one example of someone in this sub making that claim because I have yet to see anyone make such a claim.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 12:34 PM
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It takes literally like 10 seconds at most to clean.. OMG what EVER will you do with those extra 10 seconds you save ever day?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 12:31 PM
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studies performed in African nations provide convincing evidence that circumcision reduces, by 50-60 percent, the risk of transmitting the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) to HIV negative men through sexual contact with HIV positive females" You know what does an even better job of that than mutilating a man's genitals? CONDOMS I wonder if the studies they did on African nations took into consideration the fact that they were likely using condoms while having sex? Nah.. Clearly it was the circ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 12:30 PM
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Remember guys.. Women are "Strong", "Independent" and can do everything a man can.. Except for being held accountable to the same standards men would be held too of course.. I'm sure that if a similar situation happens with a man behind the wheel the UK's justice system will be consistent and also give a man the same sentence right? Yeah.. no... We all know for a FACT that if it was a man who did this the would 10000000000000% be going to prison regardless of if he had a 3 week old infant at hom…
/r/MensRights07/05/26 05:25 AM
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Its pretty peaceful actually.. Thanks for thinking of me.
/r/MensRights07/05/26 01:10 AM
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Meanwhile they sit there scratching their heads saying: "I don't understand it.. I really thought that if we shamed boy / men enough they would correct their course and become less misogynistic!" Their strategy is literally the text book definition of insanity..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 11:42 PM
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On April 29, a judge ordered Clemente to be released on her own recognizance until her next court date, according to the sheriff's office. Incredible.. And what's the bet that had this been a man who had done this he would have been set with an excessive bail or even denied bail due to him "Posing a threat to the community"?
/r/MensRights05/05/26 11:39 PM
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That's the point they miss.. They are fine demonizing, vilifying and generalizing men based on the actions of individual men.. But the moment we so much as DARE to generalize women based on the actions of individual women? Suddenly its all: "That's not fair!" "Not all women!" "Generalizations are harmful!" The irony is palpable...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 10:43 PM
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I deleted my previous comment due to inaccurate information.. I claimed the one holding the camera, filming and uploading the video was a man.. I appear to be incorrect on that. Moving on, Its funny how when its a man doing something wrong / horrible its perfectly fine to condemn ALL men as guilty of the same actions.. And of course the common retort is: "Well if you don't do what we are generalizing then why are you getting upset?" And yet, we all know just how angry women would get if we start…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 09:46 PM
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The absolute irony about the whole situation was how many women were using the video as "proof" of men being complicit / doing nothing to call out men and their misogyny.. But they completely ignore the fact that the person holding the camera, recording everything and who posted the video online as a man... But still the narrative is "Yes, ALL men"...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 09:18 PM
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Oh wow! color me shocked and surprised! A strategy we were told "Totally applies equally to men too, Trust us!" doesn't actually apply equally to men too.. Where have we seen this before... Ah yes.. that's right.. when Feminists say that "Feminism is for men too" despite.. you know.. the name of the movement being obviously gendered? Its impressive the levels of gaslighting they go to in order to try to convince us that they actually care about male victims when at best they are relegated to a m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/26 09:45 PM
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At the same time its literally what amounts to a foot note in the overall strategy.. and feels like it was added out of obligation rather due to any actual care for male victims..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/26 09:10 PM
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Not all women falsely accuse men of rape.. but ALWAYS a woman Not all women commit paternity fraud but ALWAYS a woman That IS how your logic works correct?
/r/MensRights03/05/26 10:10 PM
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Its an awkward situation to be sure.. Yes there ARE predatory and abusive men out there I'm not saying there aren't.. Just as you agree there are vindictive women out there who can and will falsely accuse a man to get back at him. How do we balance things out? How do we keep women safe without creating a breeding ground for false accusations? The biggest issue I see here is the fact that these sites are setup with anonymity.. The moment you have an anonymous source claiming: This man is a rapist…
/r/MensRights03/05/26 10:09 PM
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Ah yes.. so just because there is a video of A SINGLE MAN doing something bad / horrible it means that ALL MEN must be like that.. I also note how they conveniently ignore the FACT it was a man who: 1) Took the video 2) Uploaded it But no.. ALL men are like this and "Men don't hold other men accountable" apparently..
/r/MensRights03/05/26 09:56 PM
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What exactly about this post "Screams AI"? I don't see it at all..
/r/MensRights03/05/26 12:59 AM
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"I disagree with this post, therefore it must be AI" What exactly about this post makes you think it was written by AI?
/r/MensRights03/05/26 12:59 AM
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OP is 100% spot on here.. The analogy I've been using in regards to the dating pool is this: Its like wandering blindfolded through a minefield while you are getting mixed messages of which way to step / go.. Mess up and set on a landmine? BAM! your dating life is over! You get labeled as a "Rapist" or "Creep" or "Incel" etc and discarded. And of course if you manage to navigate the minefield successfully? Well the battle's not over! Next you need to ensure that you have a double PHD in Women's …
/r/MensRights03/05/26 12:55 AM
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Sure? My point still stands that the majority of false rape accusations are made by women towards men.. But watch how feminists jump in and instead of admitting "Yeah, women falsely accusing men is a problem" instead they minimize by gaslighting us into thinking they are "Rare"
/r/MensRights03/05/26 12:37 AM
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They sure do seem to be all for collective blame / guilt when it comes to men.. But of course as always they refuse to be held to the same standard... I'd take their arguments and throw them back in their faces: "Not all woman, but always a woman when it comes to false rape accusations" "None of the women present had the courage to stop their friend from lying to their partner about the paternity of the child, so yes, all women by action or omission" "These are the ones who end up lying about be…
/r/MensRights02/05/26 11:32 PM
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That's what always annoyed me.. The concept of intersectionality is fine and if used properly can be helpful.. But sadly when it comes to men.. the intersection stops at the point of "Man" meeting anything and the assumed conclusion of any and all lines of intersection which include "Man" are: Privilege, Abuser, Aggressor, Predator etc.. There is no room for nuance or examining things closer...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 10:40 AM
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Its not just Rape laws.. They have their fingers in the Domestic Violence laws too Just look at how impactful the feminist Duluth Model of Domestic Violence has been, how it has been the basis for domestic violence initiatives world wide. A model which was based on assumptions and assumed conclusions / outcomes rather than facts or evidence. A model which has led to multiple countries adopting "Violence Against Women and Girls" statistics / policies.. A policy which further dehumanizes and de-le…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 05:24 AM
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And yet.. how often are we as men told that we need to do more to make women FEEL safe? How we need to change our words, actions and even thoughts to protect the FEELINGS of women? Meanwhile they can generalize, demonize and vilify ALL men using terms like "Patriarchy", "Incel", "Toxic Masculinity" etc And when we speak up about it? We get told its not up to women to change their language / terms to coddle men / protect men's feelings... But that's exactly what they expect from men.. They expect…
/r/MensRights02/05/26 05:19 AM
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Okay then.. if Feminism is so "Anti-draft" as you claim.. Then explain WHY when a bill was proposed that would have made it mandatory for women to be drafted they protested against it using slogans like: "Don't Draft our Daughters!" And claiming "No one should be drafted" Yet, once the bill was defeated.. did those FEMINISTS use the momentum created to continue pushing for men to not be drafted as well? No, they did not.. Because they got what they wanted, Women would not be drafted and the fact…
/r/MensRights02/05/26 02:23 AM
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Ah yes.. because ALL men since the dawn of time have been / are complicit in everything women have gone through... Imagine how angry and upset that person would get if we started holding all women accountable for the women who have / do lie about being raped? Imagine telling a young girl she's a liar because some people who share her gender have lied in the past and so now she needs to take accountability for things she never did.. That would be horrible, traumatic and disgusting... But its what…
/r/MensRights01/05/26 10:47 PM
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No, Feminists are the ones doing the nitpicking where they cherry pick out the fact that yes in SOME countries where voting was tied to landownership there were women who could vote. Hell they also conveniently forget that men only got the right to vote after agreeing to fight and die in world war 1... Or they forget how in the USA men who want to vote, drive a car, get a student loan or other government financial assistance or even a government job MUST also agree to be drafted.. Women get ALL …
/r/MensRights01/05/26 09:30 PM
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I do love when people take statistics at face value and simply ASSUME the statistics are the unvarnished truth with zero bias or manipulation behind them... or outright IGNORING key factors which make them uncomfortable... Tell me, when it comes to the "Rape" statistics and how feminists LOVE to point to them and proclaim "Its men committing the majority of Rape!" They act as though this is some sort of shocking revelation when to anyone with even a smidge of critical thinking this result would …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 08:33 PM
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You mean like how feminists constantly spout out how "Women didn't have the right to vote" while ignoring the historical FACTS that voting was tied to landownership and the fact that there WERE women who inherited the lands of their husband when he died and thus absolutely could and DID vote? Sure is easy to make women appear oppressed when they conveniently re-write history to suite their narrative eh?
/r/MensRights01/05/26 08:24 PM
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Just look at what happened in the USA when a bill was raised that would have made it mandatory for women to also sign up to be drafted.. Feminists fought tooth and nail to defeat the bill.. Gathering support from men by claiming "No one should be drafted" But what happened once the bill was defeated? Did they utilize the established momentum and continue campaigning to end the draft for men as well? No, they did not.. they got what they wanted and so they slipped back into the night comfortable …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 07:18 AM
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Or suggest that a feminist should pay Alimony or Child support if she is the breadwinner and the man stays at home to raise the kids.. Feminists become Tradcons on the spot once they get a mere taste of the "Equality" men face on a daily basis...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 07:14 AM
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Rape laws should be gender neutral, but they aren't.. Men are treated as lesser victims when they are abused sexually.. The only time anyone gives a fuck about male victims is if the gender of the person(s) abusing them matches their gender.. If the gender of the one(s) committing the abuse is "Female" its dismissed and rejected. EVERY FUCKING TIME I hear feminists scream about "Rape Culture" and "Rape Myths" but they are shocking silent on the Rape Culture and Rape Myths when it comes to male v…
/r/MensRights29/04/26 11:20 PM
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No. There is a lot of differences. The lack of penetration being the main one. The intention being another. Well maybe this will factor into things.. But in New Zealand (I live here) the crime of "Rape" is gender coded to be a crime that ONLY men can commit And yet we are constantly told "Oh, Sexual Assault and Indecent Assault are treated "just as harshly" as Rape is" Yeah fucking right... The lack of penetration is because shocking I know.. but women LACK the penetrative genitals that men have…
/r/MensRights29/04/26 01:06 PM
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In some countries ONLY men can be charged with Rape.. New Zealand for example...
/r/MensRights29/04/26 11:44 AM
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The same UN Women who went from "women and children" to "women and girls", even in terrible tragedies involving deaths of children in places like Gaza. Sure, it's the MRAs who are dividing communites. Not going to lie.. I would love to slap back at them with something along the lines of: "Hey UN Women, if Feminism is about gender equality.. then please explain why feminists petitioned the United Nations to reclassify "Female Circumcision" as "Female Genital Mutilation" and successfully push for …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/26 10:47 PM
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And yet, despite that claim, false accusations DO happen.. And when they happen its "Not ALL women, but always A woman" When it comes to paternity fraud, its "Not ALL women, but always A woman" But hey.. if you have never falsely accused a man of rape or committed paternity fraud then we obviously aren't talking about you and so there's no reason for you to get defensive over those statements right?
/r/MensRights28/04/26 10:55 AM
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The worst part is, women discriminating against men based on their height is accepted and defended as her "Preference" Yet, if we, as men say "Hey, If you are over 80kg (176lbs) do not apply" we get chewed out and called "Fatphobes" or told that we are being "Controlling" etc.. Yet, last I checked while there are SOME people with genetic / glandular problems which they can't control.. MOST people can control their weight through diet and exercise.. And even if we defend it in the same way by say…
/r/MensRights28/04/26 10:35 AM
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Oh so apparently i'm just talking about how my GF left me or Friendzoned me huh? Watch as you next accuse me of "Trauma Dumping" here.. but.. When I was FIVE YEARS OLD we had a woman who was a friend of the family who would look after me and my two sisters after school. She was constantly abusive towards me, calling me useless, stupid, slapping me in the face, punching me, kicking me and once she got right up into my face, squeezed my neck and whispered how I was a waste of oxygen before telling…
/r/MensRights27/04/26 11:17 PM
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Pretty much.. Except, rather than Witch hunts being limited to individual towns / cities.. Thanks to the magic of the Internet the witch hunts can be conducted on a global scale
/r/MensRights27/04/26 10:13 PM
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So what you are saying here is, If women talk shit about me.. i'm in turn allowed to talk shit about women right? That IS how your logic works here right?
/r/MensRights27/04/26 10:09 PM
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Ah right.. so men who are victims of rape and violence at the hands of women simply do not exist right? HOW FUCKING DISGUSTING! I personally am a survivor of violence at the hands of women.. and your statement is essentially silencing the pain and suffering I endured at the hands of women.. And thank you for proving my point that men are not ALLOWED to be victims unless they share the same gender as the one inflicting violence / harm on them. You absolutely disgust me!
/r/MensRights27/04/26 10:06 PM
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Oh yes, because apparently women NEVER EVER LIE ABOUT BEING RAPED It simply has never happened and will never happen right? The fact is that YES women HAVE and DO lie about this. If they never did, you would have a point.. But here you are treating each and every single claim as though they are legitimate. And look I'm NOT saying that every single accusation is a woman lying.. But its also not as "Rare" as you would have us believe. You've proven your own bias here with you own statement: "you a…
/r/MensRights27/04/26 10:04 PM
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You are projecting so hard it can be seen from the moon.
/r/MensRights27/04/26 07:07 PM
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You are the one who clearly does not understand it.. Let me break it down for you: Premise One: Feminism claims to be a movement about Equality and claims to be for men to For this premise to be true we would expect to see feminists giving equal time / consideration to the issues men face as they give towards the issues women face. But that is not what we see in reality so the premise is false. Let me be clear here as well, I am 100% fine with feminism being a movement devoted to uplifting / res…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/26 07:06 PM
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I'm not justifying anything.. I think its stupid and Door Dash should honestly have come to the table when the facts became clear..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/26 07:46 AM
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My Point <---- Your absolute reach / moving of the goal posts --------------------------------> So you agree it's dehumanizing to be a woman or to even be included in the same stats as women. You are twisting my words here and you fucking know it. The point i'm making is this: ALL VIOLENCE IS WRONG What is between your legs should NOT be the defining characteristic on what makes someone a "Victim" We shouldn't be separating victims based on gender because it only serves to divide and silence vic…
/r/MensRights27/04/26 01:34 AM
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If you dont like the draft for men then do something about it, dont expect others to do it for you. If FEMINISTS are making the claim of "Feminism is for Equality" or "Feminism is for Men too" Then should I not expect Feminists to lobby for men's issues too? If Feminism is about focusing on women's issues / rights, that's fine.. but if that's the case then FEMINISTS need to stop gatekeeping equality.. Your other example is the same, you are askinbg men to set aside the issues women face to foxcu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/26 12:00 AM
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My answer is "so what if there are women who do that?" you want every single woman to behave exactly how you'd like, to make you comfortable? There are men who kill and rape. The irony here is so strong in that comment.. Imagine if we dismissed rape as "So what if there are men who do that?" we'd (Rightfully) be called out as misogynists But the key point here is the "You want every single woman to behave exactly how you'd like, to make you comfortable?" Because that is EXACTLY what feminists ar…
/r/MensRights26/04/26 08:07 PM
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Thanks! It feels like an uphill battle but I hope that people reading through can use some objectivity and realize that my position is NOT: "We must protect men who are rapists" But rather its: "I'm 100% for holding guilty men accountable for their horrible crimes, but for that to happen we need to ensure that we are condemning men based on evidence and not simply on accusations alone"
/r/MensRights26/04/26 07:56 PM
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Thank you for making your misandry clear for everyone.. I have NEVER raped a woman, stalked a woman, sexually harassed a woman or even HIT a woman Why do I deserve to be demonized, vilified and generalized over things I have NEVER and would NEVER do? Why would you consider it acceptable for me to be arrested, charged, convicted and spend a long time in prison for something I will never do?
/r/MensRights26/04/26 07:52 PM
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Nice deflection there but no.. If Feminism is "About Equality" and "For men too" as most feminists claim.. Then surely it would have been a simple matter for those feminists to include men in not having their genitals mutilated without their consent right? But they didn't.. Because Feminism is NOT about equality, rather its about the warped version of equality where they see women as perpetual victims and so anything they achieve is "Balancing the scales" It doesn't matter if in doing so they ge…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 07:48 PM
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They are for everyone most feminists dont advocate for previligied treatment for woman. Really? So when FEMINISTS went to the United Nations to petition them to reclassify "Female Circumcision" as "Female Genital Mutilation" and push for it to be outlawed (Successfully I might add) Why is it those FEMINISTS couldn't be bothered to advocate that "Male Circumcision" also be reclassified as "Male Genital Mutilation" and push for the practice to be outlawed? Because they were advocating for privileg…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 05:18 AM
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There are also more false accusations out there than anyone wants to admit.. What's you point?
/r/MensRights26/04/26 05:05 AM
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I am all for holding GUILTY men accountable.. However for a man to be GUILTY there needs to be evidence. And an accusation by itself is not evidence... Yes, rape is both horribly under reported and difficult to get convictions for and yes there ARE men who are guilty who go free.. But the answer to that is NOT to allow modern day witch trials where a man can be declared guilty without any evidence at all..
/r/MensRights26/04/26 05:04 AM
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Ah yes.. anyone who disagrees with anonymously labeling men as rapists or abusers must CLEARLY be an abuser themselves.. Flawless logic there... /S
/r/MensRights26/04/26 04:56 AM
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Imagine if a man who is innocent finds out he's been posted to this website and is getting doxxed / harassed for something he didn't do.. Eventually it gets too much for him to bare and he kills himself.. Because I could absolutely see something like that happening... And if it did, who would or should be held responsible? We have a justice system for a reason.. Public / Vigilante justice is not the answer..
/r/MensRights26/04/26 04:55 AM
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Equally, how do you KNOW that those who posted names WERE victims? I guess its literally impossible for you to conceive the idea that a woman would falsely accuse a man for any reason.. Maybe he broke up with her and she took it personally? I guess that's enough to condemn him as a rapist! Divorce didn't go her way? Time to ruin his reputation by posting anonymously on the web! Now, i'm saying there aren't or weren't actual victims posting.. but it seems a stretch to assume that everyone who pos…
/r/MensRights26/04/26 04:53 AM
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Using your "logic" you wouldn't have a problem with men labeling women as gold diggers right? After all, if you aren't a gold digger then they clearly aren't talking about you and so you would have no reason to get upset at being generalized over something you have never or would never do?
/r/MensRights26/04/26 04:49 AM
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I'm ok with a small percentage of men being wrongfully accused of it means a safer world for woman. Wow... Just.. wow.. I sure hope no men close to you are falsely accused of a heinous crime they didn't do.. At least you are honest about your views. Even if those views are unjustified and frankly disgusting to say the least..
/r/MensRights26/04/26 04:40 AM
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And do you stop to consider for even a moment the fact that in most Western countries the crime of "Rape" is gender coded to be a crime that ONLY men can commit? I don't know about you but if a crime is defined / coded to be something that only one specific gender can commit I would not find it at all surprising to see that reflected in the statistics.. But its funny how readily people rely on statistics when it fits the narrative they are pushing isn't it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 01:32 AM
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But when you take a marginalized group and say their fears and experiences and pain is an attack against you, and they have no right to fear or say so, while you are a member of the oppressing group, it’s furthers the oppression of women and silences their voices. So, what you are saying is its acceptable for women to generalize ALL men based on the actions of a minority of men? And any man who has not EVER committed violence or rape against a woman is "Silencing women" when they get offended by…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 01:29 AM
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Most women are empathetic to male victims, The opposite is true based on my experience.. When men open up about their abuse, women only seem to be empathetic towards men if the one abusing them is also a man.. If the one abusing them is a woman they don't want to hear about it or will deflect / de-rail the conversation back into "But women have it worse" And look to be clear I fully acknowledge that there are many women who are victims of rape and violence... But that does not justify generalizi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 12:43 AM
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While i don’t believe women are saying they hate all men, it is not racism or sexism to say i am afraid or untrusting of men based on my experiences with many of them, because despite believing i was safe in the past, that person also betrayed, abused, or hurt me. It’s not a “all men are bad” issue. it’s a “im not sure which ones are bad, and therefore my defenses are up.” And here’s my experience of why. I am a survivor of physical, mental and emotional abuse at the hands of women.. Based on my…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 11:55 PM
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Its one thing for women to share their lived experiences... Its another to fearmonger by saying: "I had a negative experience with a / some men and because of that i'm now cautious around all men and if you are a woman you should be cautious too!" All this does is fearmonger and cause hysteria / panic Its also telling that women are allowed to generalize / vilify / demonize ALL men based on their lived experience and they are called "Strong" or "Brave" or "Empowered" for doing so.. But men who h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 11:52 PM
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I do work to protect women.. But "Protecting Women" does NOT mean assuming any / all men accused of rape are instantly guilty... How is that such a fucking hard concept to grasp?
/r/MensRights25/04/26 10:50 PM
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Its amazing to me how, when a statistic that paints women in a negative light is thrown out people will leap upon it and say "This stat constant gets misrepresented!" But when it comes to stats that paint men in a negative light, for example the statistics around Rape.. Well, there's no need for nuance or further investigation.. the statistic is clearly 100% factually true.. The rape statistics CONSTANTLY get misrepresented by women / feminists on a daily basis.. Firstly, there's the fact that t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 10:46 PM
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also, it is kind of ironic that gay relationships have the lowest DV rates and lesbian ones have the highest dv rates. They just loop it back round into "The Patriarchy" for example they explain away higher rates of domestic violence in lesbian couples as being a result of one of the women being forced into the "Patriarchal Gender Role" So even when its women hurting "Other women" its still the fault of men / "The Patriarchy"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 10:33 PM
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"Re-tracing me who were counted as victims in the Scottish Crime Survey, found that a majority of the men who said that they were victims of domestic violence, were also perpetrators of violence" And yet, this is despite studies that show that women are actually slightly higher when it comes to reciprocal violence... But heaven forbid they admit that yes, women can be just as violent as men...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 10:31 PM
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Tangentially related here.. But someone did a study many years ago back when it was still called Twitter looking at "Online Misogyny" and found that the majority of misogyny women on Twitter faced... came from "Other women" That didn't mean that men weren't misogynistic towards women.. but it was an eye opening result that showed that "Misogyny" is not the one way street they claimed it to be..
/r/MensRights25/04/26 04:56 AM
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I'm legitimately stunned here.. A feminist who actually makes valid points without falling into the usual rhetoric or dogma of blaming "Men" or "The Patriarchy" or "Toxic Masculinity" for everything? You seem far to logical to be a "Rad Fem" to me.. I think the overall frustration is from our side here as MRA's is the fact that we can all agree that Men and Women face both common and specific issues in society.. What seems to be the sticking point here is how feminism and feminists keep wanting …
/r/MensRights25/04/26 04:54 AM
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Ah yes.. men only face misandry online.. It not like there are entire systems out there which are biased if not directly discriminatory towards men... The criminal justice system for example.. Men are flat out more likely than women to receive prison sentences for their crimes. When a woman does get a prison sentence, the length of her sentence will be on average 60% shorter than what a man would get for the same crime. In most western countries the crime of "Rape" is gender coded to be a crime …
/r/MensRights25/04/26 04:45 AM
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Ah yes.. apparently having standards and wanting EVIDENCE before convicting someone makes me a "Rapist" Quite the argument you've constructed there.. Your mental gymnastics routine is so outstanding you should go represent your country at the Olympic games...
/r/MensRights25/04/26 03:14 AM
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I'M REACHING? Says the person who is calling me a rapist and a perpetrator without ANY evidence. Oh an of course you also said that I should "Go get raped" Do you tell everyone you don't agree with to go get raped? Or is that something you exclusively say to men?
/r/MensRights25/04/26 03:11 AM
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Feminists have been claiming for decades that their movement is about "Equality" and is "For men too" But it has failed each and every time this claim has been made. Feminists created, published and pushed for the uptake of the Duluth Model of Domestic Violence, a model which assumes that in ALL cases of domestic violence involving heterosexual couples the man is ALWAYS the abuser / aggressor and the woman is ALWAYS the victim. This policy leads to men being arrested and charged by default when …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 11:04 PM
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We live in a society where an accusation can travel the world 10 times before the truth has a chance to even step out of the door.. Our society has broken down.. They are so firmly entrenched in the sauce peddled by fearmongers that they now accept an accusation alone as proof.. In the UK its very clear that if you are a man and you have an accusation of Sexual Assault or Rape leveled at you.. the country WILL assume you guilty and condemn you before any facts or evidence are examined..
/r/MensRights24/04/26 10:44 PM
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My lived experience has been that most feminists are hateful towards men.. But here you are trying to gaslight me and say "Nah fam! its all in your head!" Sure, the majority of the hateful feminists are online, you have a point there But I have met equally hateful feminists in real life.. But I guess my lived experiences don't matter huh?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 10:38 PM
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I've spoken to many women and feminists who have told me to "Check my Privilege" Or who have said to my face that because men commit the majority of Sexual Assault / Rape / Domestic Violence they need to be cautious around me. All without knowing me or my life.. Judging me based on my characteristics rather than who I am as a person. And no, its not ALL women who do this.. but in my experience its IS how most feminists act. I can count on both hands the number of rational feminists i've met who …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 10:10 PM
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Nobody is saying every single man rapes. Mean while we have FEMINISTS saying: "Yes, ALL MEN" "Not ALL men but always A Man" "Teach Boys not to rape" But apparently according to you that doesn't equate to them saying every single man rapes? How does that make any sense at all?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 08:33 PM
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Do you really think for a moment the fact that we have a constant bombardment DAILY of messages from the main stream media about how men are "predators" or "Teach boys not to rape" or "Men are such pigs!" or "Yes, ALL Men" isn't doing anything to the mental health of young men? Or how about the fact that the dating pool is so fucking toxic today that there's no longer any point even dipping your toe into it? Women hold near full control over the dating market, swiping left on the majority of men…
/r/MensRights24/04/26 06:20 AM
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Men are rarely believed when they say they were raped by another man.. Men are almost NEVER believed when they claim a woman raped them.. I wonder why that might be?
/r/MensRights24/04/26 06:11 AM
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Women often recruit men to commit their violence by proxy.. This is because its well understood that on average a woman is not as strong physically as a man is. So they recruit "Other Men" to beat the man for them.. So yeah.. I'd say its a legitimate issue for men to keep in mind.
/r/MensRights24/04/26 06:09 AM
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There's a saying, perhaps you have heard of it? "Trust, but verify" The idea is, if someone tells you something happened to them you don't dismiss them out of hand. BUT you also don't implicitly believe them without verifying the claim first. How is that such a hard concept to grasp? If a woman says "I was raped" I TRUST that she was indeed raped.. However until I can verify with evidence the man she claims to have done it I am not going to condemn the man just because he has been accused. In th…
/r/MensRights24/04/26 06:07 AM
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Clearly you haven't heard of the "Are we dating the same guy" face book groups / apps which were used for women to ask for the "Tea" on men they were dating Often getting information anonymously and without any ability for the man to know he's being discussed or defend himself.. So if a woman said "Yeah, he raped me" That's it.. he's now considered a rapist all on an unsubstantiated anonymous post... Do you not see how fucked up that is?
/r/MensRights24/04/26 06:03 AM
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Why does it have to be one or the other? Equality is not a zero sum game, as feminists LOVE to tell me.. And why shouldn't I protect men? I've seen enough false accusations at this point for me to warrant at least looking closer and waiting for evidence before I condemn a man based on an accusation alone.. But hey, apparently you don't see any issue with the shoot first and ask questions later approach...
/r/MensRights24/04/26 06:01 AM
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Oh FUCK OFF WITH THAT! I don't even LIVE in the USA nor am I a citizen of the USA ergo I didn't elect shit Stop assuming that everyone lives in the USA and that everyone who does voted for Trump. Or if you want to have that argument then you will need to acknowledge the MILLIONS of WOMEN who voted for Trump, because unlike the narrative would have you believe.. It wasn't just men voting for Trump. For the Record, I wouldn't have voted for him If I had the choice. So yeah.. nice strawman argument…
/r/MensRights24/04/26 05:59 AM
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I call fucking BULLSHIT on your claim there.. A man in Pennsylvania spent 31 days in jail after a woman falsely accused him of kidnapping and raping her. This is before it got to court or anything like that. After the police finally investigated and looked at camera footage in the area they found the footage did not match her story and after that her story fell apart. She got sentenced to 45 days to 23 months in jail for her false accusation. Yet had the case proceeded and the man convicted he w…
/r/MensRights24/04/26 04:53 AM
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I'm a feminist because there are alarming statistics which show male violence against women and girls is an epidemic And tell me.. how critically have you examined those statistics? Because I assume you are just taking them at face value.. Did you stop to consider the bias the criminal justice system has towards men? Did you consider this bias means that men are flat out more likely than women to be arrested, charged, convicted and sentenced for violent crimes? Does that explain away all of the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 01:36 AM
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Sure.. but at the same time MRA's are not declaring "Men's Rights is about equality!" or "Men's Rights is for Women too!" Which are arguments feminists make ALL THE TIME We get told that we don't "Need" Men's Rights because "Feminism is for men too" And of course when we ask: "Okay, so what is feminism doing to fix these issues that men specifically face?" We get told: "OMG! Stop expecting women to fix MEN'S problems!" "We need to focus on women's issues first" "Once we've 'Smashed the Patriarch…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 01:28 AM
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If it were applied in that way feminists would call themselves "Egalitarians" But that doesn't roll off the tongue now does it? Its right there in the name of the movement FEMinism the Fem of course standing for Female or Feminine.. How can a movement be for "Equality" and "For men too" when the very name of the movement is clearly and obviously biased towards one gender over the other?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 01:23 AM
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Ah yes.. the classic "But Toxic Masculinity / Misogyny is WORSE" argument.. Isn't it funny how when its about men its "Toxic Masculinity" but when its about women its re-framed as "Internalized Misogyny" Its almost like they don't want people equating "Women" with being "Toxic" Yet, its perfectly acceptable to do it towards men...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 01:20 AM
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I didn't want to be to hyperbolic.. I also live in a country where our population is only in the 5 million range.. so I tend to think along the lines of "Thousands" when it comes to my country.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 11:10 PM
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In many cases its a "He said, She said" situation.. Unlike other crimes like murder, or theft etc there is often little evidence. Sometimes though there is evidence of a woman planning to make a false accusation against a man sometimes for revenge or spite or just because she feels like it.. In some cases you have a situation where a woman WAS raped but the wrong man was convicted.. Such as Andrew Malkinson in the UK.. He spent SEVENTEEN YEARS in prison for a crime he did not do. Does this mean …
/r/MensRights23/04/26 11:08 PM
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Men are not believed when they report their rapes either.. And if they try to report a woman raping them they are often laughed at or told "Bet you actually enjoyed it eh?"
/r/MensRights23/04/26 10:55 PM
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SEXUAL ASSAULT / RAPE - About 90% of perpetrators are male Only about 5% are reported to police About 95% are never reported Of reported cases: 92% to 98% are real 2% to 8% are false And it isn't at ALL a coincidence that in most if not all Western countries the crime of "Rape" is gender coded to be crimes that ONLY men can commit.. That in no way at all might influence the statistics there humm? The fact that we have stories upon stories of female teachers in schools raping "Having …
/r/MensRights23/04/26 10:55 PM
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Classic Ad hominem attack.. You can't attack my argument / statements so you claim I must be one of the men on the site.. Thank you for revealing yourself as a misandrist whom we should avoid...
/r/MensRights23/04/26 10:47 PM
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Its not.. and that's not what i'm saying at all. What I AM saying is that false accusations DO happen and for the most part they are swept under the rug in favor of pushing the narrative of "But men are raping women at epidemic levels!" The point here is that we must be balanced in order to be a just society.. If a woman makes an accusation it should not be dismissed out of hand. At the same time we can not treat the accusation itself as evidence... Which all too often is what happens. In my vie…
/r/MensRights23/04/26 10:46 PM
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IF all she did was open the door further, realized the situation, turned around walked out and shut the door behind her this wouldn't have been a thing at all... but she ACTIVELY chose to make it about her.. She chose to film it, publish it and use it for clout / clicks She was labeling herself "The Victim" while all along the man was the victim of HER... I refuse to give her any grace here at all.. She had the opportunity for that but it passed
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 11:50 AM
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Well considering that SHE recorded him and then began slandering him on Tik Tok saying she was Sexually Assaulted and classifying it as him maliciously doing this because he "KNEW" his door dasher was a woman... And people believed her and started slandering him, calling what he "Did" despicable etc.. So clearly people ate up her lies and were willing to classify what he did as "Malicious" all without getting his side of the story. All thanks to #BelieveALLWomen and #MeToo
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 01:37 AM
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So here's what I think happened.. The man comes home, unlocks the door and heads inside he pushes the door behind him to close it with his hand or foot and thinks he's pushed it hard enough to close it or it appears closed to him. Its not actually and a gust of wind pushes the door slightly ajar. I've done the exact thing myself while NOT drunk... The door dasher arrives, notices the door is ajar and peaks inside She can see him on the couch and notices his compromising position She then opens t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 01:33 AM
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So you ASSUME he was whacking it off.. There is absolutely no possibility that as he sat down in his drunken state his pant's happened to slip down? Nah, clearly he was jacking it.. And even if he was who the fuck cares? That doesn't change ANYTHING here.. He could have been jerking it for 2 hours straight before making the door dash order.. The fact remains that he said: "Leave my food at my door" and that was ignored.. Its almost like you think people aren't allowed to masturbate inside their …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 01:28 AM
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Yeah this was an insane time on the internet. Like obviously the guy was a moron to get drunk and pass out like that but I don't know how anyone could view it as malicious. Like he was clearly out when she arrived This is the EXACT sort of victim blaming narrative women / feminists accuse men of when it comes to women being raped.. Maybe understand the FACTS of the situation before laying down judgement.. 1) He went out had some drinks and allegedly a good time then when home 2) He placed an ord…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 01:26 AM
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I suspect Door Dash suspended both the customer and her account to avoid the fall out.. Is it unfair to the man who is in fact the victim here? Absolutely! Is it also the standard corporate response? Also yes! It doesn't justify it but you can see why they would suspend both accounts to minimize the blow back onto them...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 01:18 AM
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Might I also remind the men here that lying/acting a fake personality and/or politics to gain access to women's bodies is coercion, which is r*pe. And no I don't mean harmless lies like weight or height. I mean lies like your political views, principles, on birth, etc... If you have to lie about your politics because you know women will run away when they find out you're a loser, then grow the fuck up. That sure is some massive projection you have going on there buddy
/r/MensRights22/04/26 08:09 PM
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False accusations are real but they are so rare, whereas there’s a fucking tonne of actual abuse and assaults that pricks use the false accusations claim to avoid accountability for a consequences You know what else is "Rare" Female Genital Mutilation, at least compared to the mutilation of infant / young boy's genitals.. But despite how "Rare" it is comparatively guess which is still given ALL the attention and is treated as "worse" than the other? Also we don't KNOW the frequency of false accu…
/r/MensRights22/04/26 12:48 PM
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And what about Asia Argento? a prominent leader of the #MeToo movement and someone who accused Harvey Weinstein of being a predator who turned out to be a predator herself.. The evidence was there, clear as day.. But was Asia held to the same rigorous standards men were being held to? NO Instead the women of the #MeToo movement circled the wagons and called for calm and to wait for the evidence before jumping to conclusions... Which is a far cry from what men got... If you were a man during the …
/r/MensRights22/04/26 09:38 AM
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Yeah.. lets just ignore the facts like him being kicked off / out of multiple franchises aka Cancelled over what turned out to be at least according to the court case a false statement... The fact that after the verdict was reached he still is employed does not negate the fact that he was essentially "Cancelled" over the accusation of being an abuser.. But that's exactly what u/BrightStick would have you believe!
/r/MensRights22/04/26 07:25 AM
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Many "non-celebrity" men have been cancelled or had their lives ruined by a simple accusation.. You are hyper fixating on the top 0.00001% of men aka the rich / famous men Yet you ignore the many men who are not in their league who lose their jobs to an accusation and lack the same financial support to fight the accusation.
/r/MensRights22/04/26 03:18 AM
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Ah yes.. because people only every tell the absolute truth and would NEVER lie about serious matters like "Rape" or "Abuse" right? Ergo every single accusation is to be taken at face value of being 10000000% true with no evidence required. Any man who shows up on this website is to be classified as an "Abuser" or "Rapist" and cancelled.. Now, i'm not against safety.. but the problem here is.. safety can not come at the cost of innocent men being labeled as "Rapists" or "Abusers".. But in our cur…
/r/MensRights22/04/26 12:00 AM
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The answer to this is to fire it right back at them.. For example, Roe Vs Wade being overturned in the USA.. They LOVE to frame this as "Men wanting to control women's bodies" yet they completely ignore the THOUSANDS of women who were in support of Roe Vs Wade being overturned.. Because that would destroy the narrative of "Men controlling women"
/r/MensRights21/04/26 10:28 PM
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From another article on the same topic: https://web.archive.org/web/20260408020225/https://dailytrojan.com/2026/04/07/lyon-gym/ The result was a smaller-scale trial run in the Robinson Room, which Alnajjar said is more of a stretching or yoga room than a full gym floor. She originally hoped for a larger space with more equipment, but said the first phase is mainly about proving student demand. Alnajjar said she hopes to see around 20 to 40 students use the room every day and eventually build the…
/r/MensRights21/04/26 07:12 PM
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Excuse me? One thousand men? That’s actually been fully checked, those weren’t bots, and they could actually be tied back to an actual living man? The answer to that is an astounding no. Or.. perish the thought.. maybe.. just maybe SOME of the "1,000" are *pause for dramatic effect* women? No.. its ONLY men who would be into this sort of thing right....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 09:53 PM
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The person you responded to deleted their comments like a coward!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 11:55 PM
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They also initially wanted to charge him "Room and Board" for his wrongful conviction.. looking to take over $300k out of his compensation... You heard that right.. They made a mistake and wanted him to pay for it... Edit: I see you made a comment about this further below... I honestly can't understand how disgusting the UK's system is.. A person is a the victim of a false conviction and imprisonment.. and they faff about regarding how much he is to be compensated and then on top of that they sa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 11:41 PM
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Are you really comparing DEATH of infants to being raped? Because yes, Rape is a horrible crime.. But you CAN move on from it.. Regardless of how horrible the crime of rape is.. an infant being murdered by their parents is infinitely worse in my opinion..
/r/MensRights19/04/26 11:33 PM
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What exactly is the difference between referring to women as "Female" or men as "Male" Like functionally what really is the difference? I could maybe see your line of reasoning if the OP only referred to women as "female" and didn't refer to men as "male" but that isn't the case here.. It honestly comes across as you making a big deal out of something that isn't actually a big deal..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 11:25 PM
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Its funny because this isn't even the first time feminists have lied to push their narrative of "Men are evil" or "Men are disgusting rapists!" Many feminists (i'm not specifically talking about you) love to throw out the general statistics around "Rape" and use those statistics to proclaim that we live in a "Rape Culture" with epidemic levels of men raping women.. But of course.. if we dig just a little beneath the surface of the statistics with nuance and critical thinking.. we start to see th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 08:51 AM
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Fundamentally I feel like it boils down to: "If men enjoy something.. then obviously its abusive to women" Also.. I love how they focus on the 62 MILLION number as if its significant.. Yet i'd be willing to bet that number pails in comparison to the more mainstream sites... But hey.. anything they can do to push their narrative right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 08:45 AM
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And yet I'd bet you base your own statements and views on the "Rape" and "Domestic Violence" statistics right? Those statistics sure do seem to paint a horrible picture of men being violent rapist abusers of women right? But tell me.. do you look at the statistics with nuance or critical thinking? Do you ask yourself "Is there any bias within these statistics?" I suspect not.. Because if you did you would clearly see that in both Domestic Violence and Rape statistics there is a very clear bias..…
/r/MensRights18/04/26 10:14 PM
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Apparently stating facts is now "Showing hatred of women" according to you?
/r/MensRights18/04/26 10:05 PM
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There might be real male-specific issues, however when it comes to rape and murders in a relationship, women are totally over-represented amongst the victims. My male friends almost risk nothing if they decide to go hiking alone, I can get raped, abducted and murdered alone in the woods, my chances of escaping a brown bear would be far greater. And yet, we as men can only be considered "Victims" of rape if the person raping us shares our gender.. Women can and HAVE lied about being raped with dr…
/r/MensRights18/04/26 09:38 PM
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They make it seem like when people are born they run through a character creator and pick their characteristics.. Humm I think for this play through I'll go easy mode and pick "CIS, White, Heterosexual, Male" and that combination somehow magically unlocks hidden "Privilege" multipliers or something We don't get to choose our characteristics when we are born.. So why then are we punished and blamed for the characteristics we had zero control over?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 09:23 PM
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The worst kind of response is "but [insert small number] people is still too many, it should be zero" And yet ironically.. if you use their same logic against them and say "But even though only a small number of women lie about being raped its still too many! it should be zero!" They will accuse you of being a misogynist or incel etc... Because of course their logic only works when its in their favor...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 09:18 PM
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They were the ones calling out the "High Numbers" And when the facts come out to disprove their claims they 180 and say "Men are hyper focused on the number rather than the fact that such websites exist" Well you know what else exists? "Are We Dating the Same Guy?" Groups on Facebook and other such apps I guess it doesn't matter how many women are using these groups.. the fact remains that they still exist and despite the claim being "About keeping women safe" their primary goal is to slander me…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 09:16 PM
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So.. the "Good" men are supposed to sit there and be lumped in with all the "Bad" men and simply say to themselves "Well I'm not like them so I don't have to worry about people judging me for something I didn't do" Alll while people judge them for things they never did... Using your "Logic" women shouldn't be upset when we discuss false rape accusations..A After all, women who don't lie about being sexually assaulted / raped are the "Good" ones and they shouldn't be worried about men labeling wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 10:09 PM
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Well, when I am being blamed for the deeds of "OTHER MEN" then yeah.. i'd classify that as suffering.. If a man I have never met, who lives in a completely different country from me rapes a woman how am I responsible for him doing that? And that's the problem.. anytime a man does something "Bad" or "Evil" ALL men are deemed responsible for that man's actions.
/r/MensRights17/04/26 10:04 PM
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Even worse.. Feminists tend to blame men for the inequalities we as men face.. "Well who set up the system in the first place? MEN!" or "Its 'Other Men' committing violence against men!" Their entire MO is to deflect and dismiss the issues we as men face. And to be clear here.. I'm not saying if men are the breadwinners they are excused from the household chores.. But many feminists do overlook the house hold chores which are assigned most commonly to men.. Like mowing the lawns which depending …
/r/MensRights17/04/26 10:08 AM
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I would hope you would understand that "Feminism" and "Feminists" are not analogous to "Women" There can and often are Male Feminists who are also peddling the same lies and faulty statistics...
/r/MensRights17/04/26 02:26 AM
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Feminists using misleading statistics and lying about the facts? That never happens! /S But hey.. anything to push the narrative right?
/r/MensRights16/04/26 11:19 PM
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They were also absolutely stating a fact. Men who are victims of domestic violence at the hands of women who call the police are more likely to be arrested by the police and charged as the aggressor / abuser compared to women. This doesn't mean they are saying "Men are always the victim" in domestic violence situations but male victims of domestic violence are absolutely NOT believed compared to women. There is also a lot of anger here because you are essentially trying to tone police us.. and a…
/r/MensRights16/04/26 08:13 AM
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Its not just in legal settings where there are double standards. Lets take the posts about dating for example.. Women are allowed to discriminate against men (Specifically short men) by claiming its their "Preference" Yet we as men are NOT allowed to say we don't date women over 160 pounds as that is our preference.. We get called out for being "Fatphobes" or told that we are wanting women to conform to unfair beauty standards.. The double standard here is, women are allowed to discriminate agai…
/r/MensRights16/04/26 08:09 AM
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The point you are missing here is that while we both agree that anyone should be able to say: "Because of my pas experience of SOME X. I now treat ALL X as..." Its considered an acceptable reason by most women / feminists to justify their generalizing / demonizing / vilifying of ALL men. And if we tell them its not fair for them to do that they simply claim that we are "Fragile" or that if we are upset by their generalization then we must be one of the men they are talking about.. And yet we as …
/r/MensRights16/04/26 08:06 AM
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I am already banned from posting in most feminist subs because I post in this sub.. And i'm not going to create a new reddit account just to prove a point...
/r/MensRights16/04/26 07:58 AM
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You accused someone in another comment about putting words in your mouth.. But here you are being a fucking hypocrite! but to pretend that it is secretly the men who are the victims and the women are endorsed by society to behave in a way (not sure exactly what you meant but i guess unfairly), just isn't a balnket fact. The person you responded to did NOT claim in any way shape or from that men are the victims.. They were pointing out that our society turns an absolute blind eye to the violence …
/r/MensRights16/04/26 07:57 AM
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We aren't posting and saying "WOW ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THIS!!!!" We post examples of women getting away with crimes that as men we ABSOLUTELY would get jail time for We post examples of clear double standards between men and women.. The same happens with personal experiences, where one bad interaction turns into “this is how women are,” but flipped it would be “this is how men are,” and again it sounds reductive. Feminists and many women often use "personal experiences" to justify generalizing all…
/r/MensRights16/04/26 07:53 AM
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I dare you.. go post in the main feminist sub telling them to stop being an echo chamber and how its wrong for them to generalize ALL men based on the actions of a few men.. I can guarantee that your post will be locked, removed and you will be banned from posting in the sub. Because they ARE an echo chamber, they silence anyone who does not parrot the dogma of their movement. Here we will disagree and down vote you but we wont silence you nor will we delete your post or ban you.. So, which move…
/r/MensRights16/04/26 07:48 AM
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And yet.. when a man tries to report that a woman raped him he often gets laughed at and told "I bet you actually enjoyed it eh?" There is a massive double standard on how men are treated vs how women are treated.. Another example is domestic violence. Our system has been built on the idea that "Men are abusers, women are victims" as such if a man is attacked or assaulted by his girlfriend / partner its often justified as "Well, he clearly did or said something to cause her to attack him" Yet th…
/r/MensRights16/04/26 07:46 AM
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In addendum to my previous comment.. This is the same 'logic' used for justifying having "Women only swimming" times at public pools.. The idea is to allow women to swim and feel comfortable while doing so... But its at the cost / expense / discrimination of men... I live in New Zealand and some of the local council's have put "Women only swimming times" in effect at publicly funded swimming pools in towns. The problem here is, no matter how you try to justify it.. doing so IS DISCRIMINATORY tow…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 06:55 AM
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From the article: The result was a smaller-scale trial run in the Robinson Room, which Alnajjar said is more of a stretching or yoga room than a full gym floor. She originally hoped for a larger space with more equipment, but said the first phase is mainly about proving student demand. Alnajjar said she hopes to see around 20 to 40 students use the room every day and eventually build the case for a bigger space and more convenient hours. It may be "Part" of the gym now.. But its clear their goal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 06:49 AM
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The problem is, if you DON'T push back against it at all it gets taken as consent.. So what then happens when they say "Well, no one objected to us having one room set aside for 1-2 hours 2 days a week... "The result was a smaller-scale trial run in the Robinson Room, which Alnajjar said is more of a stretching or yoga room than a full gym floor. She originally hoped for a larger space with more equipment, but said the first phase is mainly about proving student demand. Alnajjar said she hopes t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 06:48 AM
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Well ummm you see.. you have to start from understanding the position of men being "Privileged" and thus to make things more inclusive for those who are not privileged we need to remove men from the area so others have an opportunity without being oppressed by men! /S That is literally the sort of argument they would use to justify why excluding / being sexist towards men is "justifiable" in their minds
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 06:29 AM
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And yet.. you can BET that if the men said "Hey, we want a space / time set aside so that men who feel uncomfortable exercising around women feel included" they would be told to "Suck it up".. Because its only "Equality" when women benefit apparently..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 06:26 AM
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But remember how feminists tell us "Equality is not a zero sum game"? And how "Equality" means lifting women "Up" and not tearing men "Down"? To any feminist out there who ascribes to the notion of "Equality is not a zero sum game" please explain how this situation works? Because it is essentially the argument of "To combat sexism / inequality we need to be sexist / treat men unfairly to balance the scales"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 06:25 AM
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All genders are equal! Some genders are more equal than others...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 12:29 AM
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"Got her away from everyone to somewhere private and under your control" So if you even follow your girlfriend / partner into a room where its just you and her you are a disgusting rapist! "Started undressing before she was ready" You start taking off your clothes to get into bed to go to sleep, no intention on having sex? That doesn't matter! You're a rapist pig! "Got her drunk/high when she was not drunk/high" Your girlfriend asks for an alcoholic beverage? you've just raped her! The questions…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 12:27 AM
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Ask yourself: "If the Patriarchy is a bunch of 'Rich' and 'Powerful' men controlling society" Then why are middle class / lower class men constantly being blamed for it?
/r/MensRights14/04/26 09:29 PM
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The modern dating market / pool is like walking through a minefield while blindfolded and wearing headphones where each ear is giving you different directions. Oh and of course, you also require a PHD in "Non-verbal Communication" or you will not get Oh, and if you somehow manage to navigate the minefield, understand the non-verbal communications of a woman and move onto dating.. Well the battle isn't over! You then are still expected to fulfill male gender roles of being the provider (Paying fo…
/r/MensRights14/04/26 09:27 PM
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My issue here is that I'm not denying the possibility that a man killing a woman wasn't gender motivated. But the problem becomes, the moment you introduce "Femicide" into the mix suddenly it turns into every single instance of a woman dying at the hands of men is "Femicide" If a man is drunk, drives a car and crashes into a car with a female driver / passenger and they die? "Femicide" Did he deliberately crash into their car because of their gender? No.. but who cares! they can just add it to t…
/r/MensRights14/04/26 09:19 PM
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Remember! "Nuance" and "Critical Thinking" only exist when statistics show women in a negative light.. When the statistics show men in a negative light there is no need for "Nuance" or "Critical Thinking" Why would they lie about the statistics that reinforce their established narrative of men being sexual predators? /S Sadly i'm not surprised at all here.. This is how things usually go where they deliberately word the survey questions in ways which prompt the participants to give the answers th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/26 09:05 PM
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Or if you "Tell her whatever she wants to hear" to avoid an argument or fight.. Apparently that too makes you a rapist...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/26 08:59 PM
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Given the track record our society has of hold women accountable / to the same standard expected of men I have doubts any women who was found to have lied would face any sort of repercussion from it.
/r/MensRights14/04/26 08:29 PM
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As I said, if there are feminists fighting to repeal the draft.. where the fuck did they go after they managed to defeat the bill that would have forced women to be drafted? They disappeared into the night and seem to be fine with the Status quo of men being drafted... or how about feminists also apparently being against "Male Circumcision" and how FEMINISTS went to the United Nations to petition them to have Female Circumcision re classified as "Female Genital Mutilation" and push for it to be …
/r/MensRights14/04/26 04:56 AM
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And yet, when a bill was proposed in the USA to make it mandatory for women to also agree to be drafted.. Feminists protested and pushed back with the slogan: "Don't Draft our Daughters!" All while CLAIMING to be "Anti-draft" Yet what happened once they won and the bill was removed? Did they continue fighting to remove men from the draft? No, they slipped way into the night because the status quo had been restored. But hey.. lets not forget that "Feminism is a movement for equality" and "Feminis…
/r/MensRights14/04/26 04:23 AM
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I don't disagree with sick pay / disability accommodations as a concept.. But there DOES need to be balance.. What happens if someone IS found to have "Gamed the system" to get a benefit they weren't actually entitled to? How are they held accountable? Or do we simply ignore instances of people abusing a system for personal gain? I can't point to issues with Spain / Portugal's system because I do not live in either of those countries so I don't know what polices they have in place around getting…
/r/MensRights13/04/26 10:11 PM
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Inevitably surveys like this tend to have questions which are clearly looking to support a preconceived agenda. In this case the agenda appears to be "We believe male online groups have a strong attitude of violence against women" The main issue with these questions as OP has already pointed out is that there aren't any real quantifiers with the questions. example: Q8. Women falsely report rape for attention [Strongly disagree, Somewhat disagree, Somewhat agree, Strongly agree] Do women SOMETIME…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/26 09:50 PM
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I would be fully behind giving women this extra time off as a form of sick leave.. However, as you said I would also support men getting similar time off for mental health / being able to see doctors for checkups etc.. But the feminist overlords would scream at how unfair it would be for men to get extra sick leave too.. All while sneering at us and saying: "Equality isn't a zero sum game!!!"
/r/MensRights13/04/26 09:26 PM
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I'm a realist, and I know that people (both men and women) can and do lie to get any advantage possible This doesn't mean they are all lying? No.. Also how extensive is the testing / diagnosing of endometriosis or adenomyosis? My point is, what safe guards are there in place to prevent / minimize abuse of this system? Yes, I am pessimistic, And while I would not deny this to those who legitimately need it the problem I have is the moment someone finds a loop hole which makes it easy for someone …
/r/MensRights13/04/26 09:24 PM
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Wow, what an incredible stretch you've made there.. 1) I never mentioned Trump at all so you are putting words in my mouth For the record I do think Trump is not only scum but is a rapist piece of shit. 2) You missed the point I was making, There ARE men who are victims of false rape accusations by women.. A false accusation is a traumatic thing for a man to go through similar to when a woman has been raped. If women are allowed to generalize ALL men based on her past traumatic experience with A…
/r/MensRights13/04/26 09:19 PM
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And do you really believe many women wouldn't lie about having those to get extra time off? Because I guarantee they would..
/r/MensRights13/04/26 09:05 PM
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Sure, I can accept that.. But the issue here is that this makes it seem like ALL women who have periods are in the same camp Aka when a woman gets her period it is so debilitating that they are nearly fainting from the pain every time. And i'm not doubting that's the case for your friend.. But I do doubt that being the case for each and every woman And so, if we were to add a clause that this extra leave is only available to women who's periods are debilitating you can guarantee it will be abuse…
/r/MensRights13/04/26 07:43 PM
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I agree with you, however the point I was making was that we as men are not allowed to generalize all women based on a crime / action that is primarily done by women.. Yet whenever a woman is raped by a man somehow apparently ALL men are responsible for it.. I was merely highlighting the double standards, especially how its okay for women to generalize men but not okay for men to generalize women.
/r/MensRights13/04/26 07:07 PM
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Im not blaming men in general, im blaming the men in power. That is who is at fault for how society is structured. I'm not saying that you specifically are blaming men in general.. However feminists in general DO blame men or generalize ALL men as being part of the "Group in power" Why would the patriarchy help you if you are at the bottom of society as if everyone else is? It wont help you just because you are a man. Idk what your point is. Are you just agreeing that the patriarchy is bad for m…
/r/MensRights13/04/26 11:18 AM
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Yep.. Its a term to further minimize the accountability of women.. If a woman is abusive its "Reactive Abuse" and not the same / as serious.. When men are abusive its NEVER "Reactive" its always because men are just naturally abusive... Its very much in the vein of "Rules for He, not for She"
/r/MensRights12/04/26 07:23 PM
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The last comment in the last picture.. Men need to do 50% of the cleaning Men need to do 50% of the cooking Men need to do 50% of the child/pet care Men need to pay 50% of the bills Men need do 50% of the mental load Wow.. just wow... Firstly.. Men are often paying 80 - 90%+ of the bills.. if a woman is a stay at home mom then often she is not working and thus not earning any income to contribute to the bills.. The point of "50% of the mental load" is also a big stretch.. How many men are taking…
/r/MensRights12/04/26 10:41 AM
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But the fact that we as a society (and yes, it's us all regardless of if we're in the country or not) is literally rewarding child rapists with the most powerful position in the world is a huge blow against male advocates fighting anti-men sentiments. I'm sorry but... WHAT THE FUCK!? I live in New Zealand, I am not a citizen of the USA and so I have literally zero control over who gets elected as president. How am I to blame for Donald Trump becoming president? That literally does not make any s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 03:26 AM
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Okay.. Feminists drafted, wrote, published and pushed for the uptake of The Duluth Model of Domestic Violence. A model which has been used as the foundation of many domestic violence programs in many different countries. A model which ASSUMES that in ALL cases of domestic violence between heterosexual couples the man is ALWAYS the aggressor and the woman is ALWAYS the victim. Would you not attribute this to feminism? Also, note one of the original authors even admitted to the fact the model was …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 05:14 AM
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It sounds like the real frustration for you isn't that she is socially allowed to say "We should educate boys not to do bad things at the expense of women" as much as that you are not socially allowed to say "We should educate women not to do bad things at the expense of men." I'd say that would be a valid frustration no? I'd imagine it can't be healthy and or damaging telling boys: "You might grow up to rape girls / women so we have to teach you not to do it!" The other issue here is.. the majo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 05:07 AM
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in a functioning society, you cannot arrest, imprison, or socially execute every person who says something disrespectful, ignorant, or even offensive. If you try to operate like that, you don’t get justice, you get a constant feedback loop of outrage where everyone is a target, everyone is always the victim, and nobody learns anything. In a functioning society EVERYONE should be equal under the law.. But that's not the case in today's society is it? Women are constantly given free passes for the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 04:55 AM
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Rape is horrible, But its also horrible assuming that ONLY men commit the crime of rape.. How is it "Equality" to "Teach boys not to rape" Surely we should instead be teaching boys and girls to respect everyone? we should be teaching boys and girls about consent and how its important for everyone?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 04:44 AM
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Continued: Also, when it comes to domestic violence.. When the statistics show that women in lesbian relationships experience higher rates than women in heterosexual relationships and men in homosexual relationships experience the least amount of domestic violence what do feminists do? Well, suddenly and magically "Nuance" becomes relevant to them! When the statistics negatively implicate women they are all about nuance and bias in the stats etc.. But when the stats reinforce their already held …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 08:31 PM
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are there any first world/US-peer countries that have rape specifically defined as a crime only men can commit? I'd agree that if it by definition isn't a crime when women do it, then absolutely that's a disparity, but I am not familiar with this in most modern systems The United Kingdom, Australia and New Zealand to name a few. The point i'm making is that "Rape" is a crime that is seen as a crime that ONLY MEN can commit So of course that's going to influence the statistics right? Women are th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 08:28 PM
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The first and most important thing: The left needs to stop blaming men for everything! We are constantly being bombarded about how all the ills in the world today are caused by: "The Patrriarchy" or "Toxic Masculinity" or simply "Men" And then, The Left acts all completely shocked when men who are tired of being vilified, generalized and demonized over and over and over again are radicalized and pushed into the open arms of The Right wing.. Why would any man want to support The Left wing's obvio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 07:16 PM
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bc rape is seen as one of the very serious crimes Except if you are a man of course. In many / most countries the crime of "Rape" is specifically defined / gender coded to be a crime that ONLY men can commit... How can we label it a "Serious crime" when we define it in such a way to say "You as a man can only be a rape victim if the person raping you shares your gender" and bc men (as far as I’m aware) do more rapes than women This is mostly due to the fact that as I said above, the crime of rap…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 06:57 PM
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The other excuse used is "Toxic Masculinity" where one of the women in the relationship is "Pressured" into taking on the "Patriarchal, Male gender roles" which in turn causes them to be more violent / controlling.. But of course that still doesn't explain away the fact that gay men experience the lowest rates of domestic violence.. Though i'm sure they would probably hand wave it away with the "Men are less likely to report their abuse" Which is convenient for them but then it opens up another …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 09:19 PM
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The next time I have a feminist tell me "Feminism isn't a zero sum game" I'm going to point them to this.. I'm sure they will deflect with "Oh he's not a "Real" feminist But this is the the result of Feminist Academia... The fact they found it acceptable to publish this in the first place proves that feminism is absolutely a zero sum game where the aim of the game is to uplift women at the cost / expense / removal of rights / protections for men...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 09:39 AM
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But remember: "Feminism isn't a zero sum game" right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 09:36 AM
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We don't live in a "Patriarchy" we live in an Oligarchy where the rich and power (yes, often mostly men) do everything in their power to keep themselves in power / wealth at the expense of everyone else. Power is the defining feature here NOT gender.. The fact that the majority of those in power are men is irrelevant.. Instead of blaming "The Patriarchy" which does not exist.. we should instead be blaming The Oligarchy But Feminists refuse this because it would men holding women who ARE in posit…
/r/MensRights08/04/26 02:31 AM
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And yet.. if we were to instead suggest curfews for women, on the grounds of keeping them safe how would that go over? The answer is women and feminists would be screaming about how its unfair to subject ALL women to a curfew as it stifles their freedom.. But its perfectly acceptable to suggest a curfew for men? Also, who is going to enforce this curfew? Surely it will be "Men"... Who is going to keep the infrastructures running over night? infrastructures which we all benefit from? Are women go…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 12:09 AM
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The infuriating thing here is the whole "Stranger Danger" narrative supported by the "statistics" of men committing the majority of violent crime.. But when it comes to specifically male on female violence.. the statistics clearly show that women are more likely to suffer violent crimes at the hands of men known to them than complete strangers.. Does this mean that women are 100% safe with men they don't know? Not at all.. but statistically a woman has a better chance of not being violently hurt…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 12:05 AM
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This! Boys are already being bombarded on a daily basis with messages about how they and people who share their gender are "Abusers" or "Predators" and how ALL men are responsible for the actions of "Other Men" All while being told they are also suffering from / exhibiting "Toxic Masculinity" And the cherry on top of all of this? Despite boys / men committing suicide in higher numbers, suicide is still touted as "Women most affected" because women "attempt" more...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 12:01 AM
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The response to that is clearly "The male prison guards!" But yeah I see where you're coming from...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 11:58 PM
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And yet.. when statistics show that women living in lesbian relationships face higher rates of domestic violence than women in heterosexual relationships.. Well suddenly its all "Oh well you aren't looking at the statistics with nuance!" or "That doesn't mean women are more violent than men are! you are twisting the statistics for your narrative!" Yet its what they do on a daily basis! They take ANY statistic which reinforces their position / narrative as 100% factually true with no nuance requi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 07:56 PM
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And yet.. that is NOT how it's used... Its used to check boxes so the company "Looks good" I've seen situations where a man who had more experience / knowledge in a role was passed over because DEI demanded they promote a woman instead.. Also, don't you see how counter productive forced DEI initiatives are? Imagine if you get hired / promoted into a role and you struggle with some of the tasks and you begin to wonder: "Was I the best person for this job / promotion? or did they simply need to fi…
/r/MensRights07/04/26 07:43 PM
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Funny.. because most women / feminist who peddle "The Patriarchy" constantly use it to blame men for everything. ESPECIALLY their own issues. Literally anything and EVERYTHING gets tied back to "The Patriarchy" Which is fucking asinine because they treat "The Patriarchy" as though its some sort of shadowy cabal of men who plot on a weekly basis on how to oppress women while protecting men... Yet when we bring up clear examples of how men are NOT protected or benefited in our society, False Rape …
/r/MensRights07/04/26 10:14 AM
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No.. shes Femsplaining it.. Specifically in a way which absolves women of guilt or blame and places ALL agency back on men.. "Oh its just 'Internalized Misogyny'" Funny because i'm pretty sure that would be the female equivalent of "Toxic Masculinity" but isn't it funny how instead of calling it "Toxic Femininity" they instead call it "Internalized Misogyny" Its almost as though they want to avoid blaming women for being "toxic" or having "toxic behaviors / traits" which are harmful to themselve…
/r/MensRights07/04/26 10:07 AM
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This! When it comes to female killers and abusers their trauma is used to excuse their actions.. But when it comes to men who have committed violent crimes its specifically not used as an excuse because as a man he should "simply know better" Its a massive double standard.
/r/MensRights06/04/26 07:25 AM
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Women can falsely accuse men of rape and face next to zero consequences for doing so.. Would you agree that women who DO make false rape accusations are using an existing power imbalance to do so?
/r/MensRights06/04/26 07:23 AM
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This is a fact often over looked by many feminists. Women tend to get "Other men" as they put it to commit the violence for them.. Yet the woman's involvement in the violence is downplayed in favor of pushing the narrative of "Its men being violent towards other men" She orchestrated the whole thing and so should have been held just as accountable as the thugs who committed the violence! But no, Female Privilege strikes again and she is spared the same accountability that we expect of men. And! …
/r/MensRights06/04/26 07:19 AM
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They want men to "Step up" but only in the ways they deem to be socially acceptable.. Any other way shall be condemned as "Misogyny" and "Toxic Masculinity" Its not just a lack of role models Young boys aren't stupid.. the are watching as men are constantly being demonized, vilified and generalized on a daily basis as "Evil" or "Predators" or "Abusers" And so they are growing up learning from an early age that they are going to be blamed for everything. So is it any wonder these boys are becomin…
/r/MensRights05/04/26 01:41 AM
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Except for when they DO mean it that way and simply retreat back to the more defensive position of "Clearly we don't mean "ALL" men" when called out on it.
/r/MensRights04/04/26 03:37 AM
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And we want you to understand that most of us are men who would NEVER rape a woman and we are sick and tired of constantly being lumped in with the men who do or told that WE are responsible for their actions. Yet, when a woman does lie about being raped ALL women are not held accountable for her lies.. When a woman cheats on her partner, gets pregnant and lies to her partner about the child being his, ALL women are not held accountable for this either. Why is it acceptable to hold ALL men accou…
/r/MensRights03/04/26 10:51 PM
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Alright, i'll bite. If we accept that argument as true / factual.. Then you would also agree the following would be true: In regards to false rape accusations: "Not all women, but MOST OFTEN a woman" This too would be an undeniable fact correct?
/r/MensRights03/04/26 06:26 PM
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And on the opposite side of that coin you have people so hyper fixated on "men's violence" that they completely ignore or dismiss "women's violence" because it does not fit their narrative. And when a woman IS charged, arrested and sentence for her violence? its treated as an outlier There MAY be social factors that lead men to being more prone to violence than women.. But i'm so fucking sick of this narrative that ONLY MEN are violent.. As a man who has survived violence at the hands of women i…
/r/MensRights03/04/26 06:24 PM
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Uh.. no.. Just.. NO! If a man tries to report a woman for assault / abuse he will often be laughed at or mocked or told "Oh come on, you are obviously bigger and stronger than she is, how could she possibly hurt you?" Source: It happened to me Men are also more likely than women to be arrested, charged and convicted for violence which in turn biases the statistics and makes it SEEM as though men are more violent. But there have been studies done that show that in regards to domestic violence at …
/r/MensRights03/04/26 06:19 PM
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It's possible that the female conviction rate is a little bit lower because of benevolent sexism and double standards, A "Little" lower? Try the conviction rates for women is A LOT lower.. When it comes to the crime of "Rape" its near non-existent. That might just have something to do with the fact that in many countries the crime of "Rape" is specifically defined / gender coded to be a crime that ONLY men can commit. So if that's the case then is it really surprising when the statistics reflect…
/r/MensRights03/04/26 06:15 PM
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And because women are more prone to do that than men are we as men would be justified in treating ALL women as though they may falsely accuse us? Because that is the logic / justification used to treat ALL men as "Abusers" or "Aggressors" when it comes to violent crime. Why is it okay for them to generalize us based on their experiences but not okay for us to do the same?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/26 06:39 AM
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Okay then, so you would agree that women can also be unpredictable and because of that I would be justified in treating ALL women as though they may level a false accusation of rape against me That IS how your logic works correct?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/26 04:03 AM
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This is why women are really annoying about this because they are powerless in addressing male violence. Women vs bear topic for example. And yet, despite the statistics clearly showing women are actually SAFER with a man they don't know.. how many women "Choose the bear"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/26 03:40 AM
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So, because a woman has never threaten to kill you, it simply does not happen? I'm a man and when I was 5 years old both my parents worked so we had a friend of the family look after us at her place after school.. She would constantly berate me, call me ugly, dumb, slow, and she even got right up in my face and said "You are a complete waste of air and I wish I could get away with ending you" It took my parents literally walking in on her going slap happy across my face before they believed me w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/26 03:38 AM
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Rose Caldwell, CEO of the charity Plan International UK, said: "Everyone deserves to move through public spaces without fear. And so i'm sure they will also be tackling the violence being inflicted upon people by gangs of girls who know they can get away with it? Such in the case of Fredi Rivero a 75 year old man who was killed by 3 teenage girls near a bus stop. Surely he "Deserved to move through public spaces without fear" yet he was brutally assaulted by 3 young gilrs. And yet the focus has …
/r/MensRights03/04/26 03:03 AM
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A man eyes must not meet the gaze of his betters...
/r/MensRights03/04/26 02:58 AM
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But will the law be equally ENFORCED? the answer is a resounding no Also from the article: The government has declared violence against women and girls a national emergency and said it is using "the full power of the state" to tackle such crimes "with the seriousness they deserve, stepping in early to stop harassment escalating into more serious violence". The implications here are that while on paper these laws are gender neutral.. the framing of these laws is on the basis of "women are victims…
/r/MensRights03/04/26 02:56 AM
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Every day the UK is becoming more and more like the UK depicted in V for Vendetta....
/r/MensRights03/04/26 02:51 AM
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Except, in the case of the UK feminists have "Won" the "Equal Representation" fight.. and now they continue fighting not for "Equality" or "Equal representation" but instead to claw more back for women.. The UK has moved FAAAAAAR beyond equal representation and into the realms of feminist supremacy territory... Just look at what they are pushing for.. - Stop sending women to prison completely and close women's prisons. - Make "Misogyny" a hate crime and akin to "Domestic Terrorism" - Label any t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/26 11:27 AM
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It's just beauty privilege and sexism that assumes a woman isn't dangerous, but in other areas, men are more privileged. Men make up the majority of the homeless population because women have the privilege of being considered more vulnerable. If a woman ends up homeless its because society failed her.. If a man ends up homeless he gets told he made poor decisions / its his fault Men make up over 94% of work place fatalities and yet despite this feminists still scream about "The Wage Gap" When wo…
/r/MensRights31/03/26 10:09 PM
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Thank you for proving that you do not know what you are talking about. We keep hearing about how men "control the world" or how society is setup to protect / benefit men.. Yet when I point out an obvious flaw to this narrative, being that men get harsher sentences compared to women you claim its because of "men" If society were setup to protect / benefit men, then women would be the ones getting harsher prison sentences.. And no, i'm not saying "Women should go out because men are the majority o…
/r/MensRights31/03/26 09:29 PM
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It’s an epidemic in this country because all it takes one person to say “he did this” or “she did this”. Not quote.. all it takes is for one person to say "He did this" and people are ready and willing to believe the man is guilty without waiting for a trial or evidence. If a man said "She did this" its less likely the man will be believed or people will say "Lets wait for the evidence first" or more likely the woman he accuses will pull an UNO reverse and simply counter accuse him of rape or se…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/26 08:44 PM
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Yeah.. she was quite vocal in her victim narrative and the idea of this being a "Man's world" She had convinced herself that she was truly a victim despite the illegal and immoral actions she took.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/26 08:38 PM
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Have you actually looked at the statistics? Or do you only look at statistics which support or reinforce your internal beliefs? Because if you look at the statistics you would see that women are more likely to be raped or killed by men they know intimately compared to complete strangers.. So if you live your life based on "Statistics" you would distrust the men closest to you the most. Yet how often do we hear women claiming that they have to be suspicious of ALL men? despite what the statistics…
/r/MensRights31/03/26 06:24 PM
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The majority of governments are led by men, and if that were true, why are women always afraid to go out? If the majority of governments are led by men, then why is it that in those countries men get longer prison sentences than women do for the same crimes? Also you are implying that men are not afraid to go out Yet MEN make up the majority victims of ALL violent crimes... if anyone should be "Afraid" to go out on the street logically it should be men. Why have they already experienced verbal o…
/r/MensRights31/03/26 06:15 PM
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If that was how it worked in reality you would be correct. However, the actions of FEMINISTS go directly against that definition.. Literally everything feminists have done / are currently doing is based on raising women UP while pushing men DOWN If feminism were about "Equality" then the name of their movement wouldn't be gendered after women, it would be called: "Egalitarianism" Feminism may have started as a movement for equality.. but it feel off those tracks decades ago..
/r/MensRights30/03/26 07:05 PM
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But unfortunately we live in a patriarchal society and misogyny is on the rise. From where I'm standing I reject the notion of us living in a patriarchal society.. We live in a patriarchal leaning Oligarchy but we do not live in a "Patriarchy" as described by feminists Your views are playing into the hands of the misogynists. We can be feminists without hating men. Sure, its possible to be feminists without hating men.. But in practice not really.. The dogma of feminism places blame square on th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/26 09:22 PM
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So, equally then, there is no male privilege correct?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/26 09:09 PM
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How about the idea that "Men need to cry more / be open with their emotions" Now to preface this, I agree that the idea of men being cold, stoic rocks is both unhealthy and toxic.. But its treated as a binary, where men who understand how to regulate their emotions or not let their emotions take them over in moments of crisis or panic can be a good thing too. But with how its described, any man with emotional regulation or who does not "express their emotions enough" is deemed to be suffering fr…
/r/MensRights29/03/26 09:04 PM
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My biggest issue is that as you said while there is some validity to the frameworks behind the terms. The terms themselves have been in my mind irrevocably weaponized and misused by feminists to the point that frankly, there is no salvaging them. Patriarchy is too charged gender wise, regardless of how it can indeed be a framework it has been weaponized to be used as an attack against men or to shut down men's issues / experiences time and time again. I would also argue that its not even accurat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/26 08:49 PM
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So from my perspective, the issue isn’t that feminism is fundamentally incapable of analyzing men’s experiences but it’s that people often use it in a shallow or adversarial way & there’s lot of talking past each other on terminology. And from my perspective it feels like we're expected to understand and accept that feminists (of which the majority are women) somehow know / fully understand the "male lived experience" to the point of being able to tell us what its "Right" or "Wrong" about being …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/26 03:47 PM
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For what its worth, I do agree with much of what you have said. For me the issue I have is when you have self proclaimed / labeled feminists barging in and telling us how we have things "Wrong" or how we don't understand the terms feminists use.. Like "Patriarchy" or "Toxic Masculinity" all while ignoring how those terms are used by feminists against men on a daily basis. Sure, I'll freely admit right here and now that when someone says they are a feminist I am more likely to be on my guard with…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/26 03:05 AM
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Okay.. so please explain how having men's domestic violence at the hands of women counted under "Violence against women and girls" is leveling the playing field? To me it sounds like erasing male victims. Or please explain how despite the FACT that women now make up the majority of those attending and graduating College / University there are STILL more scholarships exclusively for women than men.. Equality was met in this area and now the pendulum has swung too far in the opposite direction. Al…
/r/MensRights28/03/26 07:13 PM
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You are twisting their words.. They NEVER accused you of lying about sexual assault They said that you are lying about Universities following due process. There's a difference.
/r/MensRights28/03/26 07:08 PM
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And should we also bring race into the discussion? Because i'm sure the statistics will show that the majority of those committing violent crimes are men of color.. But that makes it uncomfortable doesn't it because it makes you seem like a racist if you try to use statistics to point out that men of color commit the majority of violent crime.. But its perfectly acceptable for you to take one step back and blame ALL men as a whole for it instead... Funny how that works no?
/r/MensRights28/03/26 07:06 PM
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Well. I disagree. Sexual violence and abortion rights are clearly gendered. immigration is gendered. Violence is gendered. Suicide is gendered. Even politics itself is gendered in the newest generation. You can choose to ignore that simple fact or you can choose to work with it. There is statistical evidence of gendered differences. And how many of the statistics are based on biased assumptions? Take the statistics for rape for example, if we only look at the statistics it paints a picture of me…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/26 05:32 PM
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No. Just no. This old feminism you talking about. The newer feminist take is intersectional. It says "some men have all the rights" and " most men suffer from patriarchy too". And yet that's not the way it works in practice, i've had numerous feminists use intersectionality against me to tell me to "Check my privilege" because I intersect the lines of "White" and "Male" and in their eyes that means that I am "Privileged" or one of the men who has "All the rights" It does not matter in their mind…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/26 03:38 PM
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What feminism "Should" be and what it actually "IS" are two different things... Once again.. I ask.. if Feminism is about gender equality.. then the simple expectation is that feminism would do things to help resolve issues that men face or would give men's issues equal weight / attention right? But again I ask, what is one thing that feminism has achieved exclusively for men's "Equality" over women? A few years ago a group of feminists petitioned the United Nations to reclassify female circumci…
/r/MensRights28/03/26 03:23 PM
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Men rights are part of their narrative. Doesnt matter if you call it a lie. Because if they believe that feminism is about men rights too then you can discuss that. And i siccesfullly did so many times. yes, Men's rights are part of their narrative.. The narrative of "Men have ALL the rights" and women have been oppressed since the dawn of time. And i'm calling it a lie because it is! We keep hearing from feminists about how they believe in "Equality" or how they claim "Feminism is for men too!"…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/26 10:25 AM
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I can kind of see where you are coming from.. but after decades of us being fed the lie of "Feminism is a movement for equality" and "Feminism is for men too!" And yet despite these claims being used over and over and over again I have yet to see ANYTHING feminists have done that is beneficial for men or was done exclusively for men... Instead we keep hearing those above lies all while any attempt to center men's issues are met with deflection and dismissal... I'm sorry.. but when a feminist say…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/26 08:56 AM
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The problem is, one of the fundamental belief or dogma of feminism is the belief that we live in a "Patriarchy" specifically one designed to benefit / protect men at the cost / oppression of women. It essentially blames "Men" for everything Ergo anyone who calls themself 'Feminist' is also accepting this fundamental premise of men being responsible for everything.. Feminism is gender equality with a focus on women. This too is a lie.. Feminism was NEVER about "Equality" it has always been about …
/r/MensRights28/03/26 03:50 AM
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And women are more likely to work part time jobs or work less hours overall than men do or work in more safe / less physically demanding / dirty jobs than men do.. Yet feminists LOVE to claim "The Pay Gap" despite these differences.... So what you're saying here is, its okay to discriminate against people as long as its men being discriminated against? That IS what you are saying here correct?
/r/MensRights28/03/26 01:16 AM
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I won't say that I don't.. But I certainly do not think I have EVERY advantage over women as feminists love to claim.. Do you think women DON'T have any advantages over men in our society? Because as my short list above states there are many areas where women have a clear advantage over men...
/r/MensRights28/03/26 01:13 AM
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Its no more dumb that you asking or assuming those who disagree with you "Voted for Trump" You have no way to prove it either.. so why should we take your "Did you vote for Trump" question seriously?
/r/MensRights28/03/26 01:11 AM
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I would prefer anyone had won instead of Trump I'm not in the USA either so its not like I as a man had any control on him winning the election... Yet many feminists seem to love to make it seem like despite the fact I don't live the USA, the fact that Trump won is somehow my fault...
/r/MensRights28/03/26 01:10 AM
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So.. when are women going to "Catch up" to men in regards to: - Jail sentencing length - Work place fatalities - Life expectancy - Retirement age Because I oddly don't see feminist campaigning to bridge ANY of those gaps... I wonder why....
/r/MensRights28/03/26 01:03 AM
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Idk what to tell ya babe. Society is male dominated. So dominated that I’m more likely to die in a car crash than you, even if it’s the same severity, because car companies have prioritized safety for their male crash dummy over the “female” (debatable if it’s even a female dummy, given it was just a male dummy scaled down). The female crash dummy wasn’t even invented for decades later, iirc. How doesn’t that benefit you? Amazing.. you would think that if this grand conspiracy you have going on …
/r/MensRights28/03/26 01:01 AM
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There's more to the world than the USA you troglodyte! Not all of us live in the USA.. But here you are assuming that anyone who disagrees with you must be a "Trump Voter" Thank you for revealing how logically and morally bankrupt you are.
/r/MensRights28/03/26 12:55 AM
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How many white women who call themselves feminists voted for Trump? It will be more than you think..
/r/MensRights28/03/26 12:53 AM
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Feminists at any time can CHOOSE to stop being feminists.. Men can not simply "Choose" to stop being being men.. Generalizing a movement for the actions of those who ascribe to that movement's ideals is NOT the same as generalizing ALL men for the actions of other men.. Just because i'm a man, that doesn't make me responsible if a man rapes a woman.. Yet that is EXACTLY how feminists generalize ALL men, treating us as some sort of hive mind who should feel collective shame and guilt over the act…
/r/MensRights27/03/26 09:45 PM
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I am sure he will make a full recovery. You seem confident for someone who has no fucking clue.. What happens when he gets older and he ends up sexually assaulting a young girl because he's internalized it as something "normal" because of what happened to him? Would you classify that as having made a "full recovery"?
/r/MensRights27/03/26 08:21 PM
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on the other hand there really is no victim in this case. I would have totally plowed her too at that age. FUCK RIGHT OFF WITH THAT SHIT! That kind of bullshit is why most boys / men who ARE victims of sexual assault / rape at the hands don't come forward.. because people like you try to normalize what happened to him or make them think that if they didn't enjoy what happened to them that something must be wrong with them. You disgust me!
/r/MensRights27/03/26 08:18 PM
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That's the key point here.. At any time they can CHOOSE to stop being feminists.. I however can not simply "Choose" to stop being a man.. But instead of understanding that fact.. they double and triple down on defending the movement instead of realizing that fundamentally any feminist who ascribes to the "Women are oppressed because we live in a Patriarchy" feminist theory are fundamentally supporting the anti-male rhetoric within the feminist movement regardless how how they defend it..
/r/MensRights27/03/26 08:06 PM
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The funny thing is.. when they use "Statistics" as their shield / reasoning you can very easily destabilize their position.. If you have a woman / feminist says she bases her opinions on statistics.. point out to her that "Statistics" show that as a woman she is actually more safe with a man she has never met compared to men she knows intimately (Family, Boyfriend, Spouse, Partner, Work Colleague etc) and so if that's what the statistics say.. then why are so many women "Choosing the bear" when …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/26 07:31 PM
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I've noticed that many feminists only bring up "Black women" when its convenient for their position.. otherwise they act as if being a white woman in today's society is the most oppressive point of intersection. We as MRA's however openly bring up the fact that in for example the Justice system not only are men as a whole disadvantaged or out right biased against.. but it's even worse for black men. Are you really proposing that we erase black male victims from the narrative? If so that says a W…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/26 07:27 PM
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This is a common rebuttal I see a lot of MRA conservatives types use. But I noticed that a lot of feminists try to find a cleaver way by deflecting this argument. By saying that violence in the black community is being done by black men. And black men are still men. So therefore it's still men's fault. Proving their point about men being statistically violent. I disagree, in my experience most feminists refuse to respond when you bring up black on black crime because they realize that the argume…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/26 07:23 PM
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For example, I recall one time I heard the phrase frequently used to sum up a problematic attitude was in response to the judge's comments about Brock Turner being a "promising young man with a bright future" or whatever it was exactly that he said during his sentencing for having sex with a passed out woman. The irony here is when Lavinia Woodward stabbed her boyfriend with a bread knife while intoxicated was spared going to jail for her violent crime because she was "an aspiring heart surgeon"…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/26 01:26 AM
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Yes, there has traditionally been a problem with people dismissing sexual harassment and assault of women with a "boys will be boys" attitude, and that is a problem that should be addressed. I have never once in my life heard of women being sexually harassed / assaulted dismissed with "Boys will be Boys" The only people i've heard use that phrase in that context are women / feminists. And i'm disgusted that they have co-opted and twisted the phrase for their own agenda. When I was growing up the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/26 10:41 PM
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I'm interested in research-based explanations and whether reforms are being considered. I don't have any research on hand at the moment but, despite the obvious sentencing disparities between men and women, in the UK there are people pushing for women to not be given jail sentences and for women's prisons to be closed completely. The funny thing is, the arguments they use to justify their position equally apply to many men who are sentenced to prison. Yet despite that the focus in the UK is how …
/r/MensRights24/03/26 10:25 PM
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They also ignore the fact that women are more likely to use less lethal attempts and thus are more likely to survive their attempts. Those women can then go on to attempt again and again.. and each and every "attempt" is counted as legitimate. Men on the other hand tend to use more lethal means and so they don't usually get / need multiple attempts. This in turn skews the numbers and thus their common rebuttal of "But women ATTEMPT it more!"
/r/MensRights24/03/26 05:26 PM
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Well, when it comes to the crime of rape it pays to remember that in many countries and states in the USA the crime is specifically defined or gendered to be a crime that ONLY MEN can commit.. The definitions often go along the lines of: "An individual is guilty of rape if Person A is penetrated by Person B's genitals without Person A's consent" And because men are the only gender with genitals that "penetrate" its rather implicit that only men can be guilty of this crime no? So with that in min…
/r/MensRights24/03/26 03:20 AM
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Dude, it's already been said in this thread that you'll get hit by lightning twice before somebody will accuse you of rape. Sure, but we can also mitigate our chances of being hit by lighting by not running through an open field carrying a large rod of metal during a thunder / lightning storm. I choose to mitigate my chances of being falsely accused of an absolutely disgusting crime by minimizing my interaction with women.. And yet.. apparently me making that choice is enough to label me as a "M…
/r/MensRights24/03/26 03:15 AM
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Okay.. so how about the Amber Heard vs Johnny Depp case? When the evidence was presented that showed that Amber was a violent abuser to Johnny there were still people defending her or claiming that it was "Reactive" abuse. They refused to accept that Amber Heard could as a woman be an abuser like they were painting Johnny to be. Now to clarify, I think both of them were abusive towards each other and both were toxic.. But Amber was NOT the clear cut victimized woman she was made out to be... So,…
/r/MensRights24/03/26 01:33 AM
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And here YOU are downplaying False accusations as if they aren't serious or as though they don't completely ruin men who are falsely accused. Or to put it in your own words.. You are victim blaming men who are falsely accused / fear of being falsely accused by trying to use bogus statistics to make it seem like false accusations aren't a big deal. Statistically, a man is more likely to be hit by lightning twice than he is to be the victim of a false rape conviction. Maybe those numbers can ease …
/r/MensRights23/03/26 09:59 PM
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How do you go about being "Objective" when the facts are that men ARE falsely accused of a horrible crime more often than feminists would have us believe? If justice requires "Objectivity" then false accusations wouldn't happen because the justice system would step in to prevent them. But as it currently stands, instead of "Innocent until PROVEN guilty" as it should be, when a man is accused of Rape / Sexual Assault he is assumed guilty until proven innocent. Finally, no I don't need to be "Obje…
/r/MensRights23/03/26 06:23 PM
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OP, your sister is unfortunately toxic and has been brain washed by viral feminism.. She seems the sort of person who would tell you "False accusations are very rare and you should worry about being raped more than being falsely accused of rape" I'm sorry that your sister appears to be a lost cause.. But what you are feeling is valid.. In my opinion, a man being falsely accused of rape is in many ways more harmful and traumatic than actually being raped.. The reason I say this is because when a …
/r/MensRights23/03/26 04:29 AM
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And of course.. when you tell people "I tried therapy and it didn't work for me" even if you tried MULTIPLE therapists.. They will blame you and say "Well you clearly didn't go in with an open mind" etc But when women say "Therapy didn't work for me" its nothing but support and "Oh, you were failed by those who should have helped you"
/r/MensRights21/03/26 06:06 PM
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Partially true.. What you are missing here is the fact that those taxes we all "equally" contribute to are not used equally. There are more tax funded programs / services which either exist exclusively for women are are primarily accessed by women compared to the same for men.. What this means is, despite us all being taxed.. women still benefit more from those taxes than men do.
/r/MensRights20/03/26 08:17 PM
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Yep.. when its a woman being obviously violent / abusive its "Reactive abuse" But when it's a man? He's just naturally abusive / controlling.... And, to be clear here.. I do think reactive abuse IS a thing.. I just don't think its solely limited to women... How many men have had women they live with abuse them constantly.. yelling at them, degrading them.. throwing stuff at them, slapping them, punching them, scratching them etc.. And then the man reaches his limit, snaps and slaps her back ONCE…
/r/MensRights20/03/26 08:14 PM
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The funny thing about that was how it was framed as "Men" wanting to control women's bodies.. All the while they outright ignored the multitude of women who voted for and pushed for Roe vs Wade to be overturned....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 04:13 AM
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Yes, it would be better, but they aren't going to use it because it breaks the narrative of "Boys / Men are violent and evil oppressors" The point here is if boys should be "Educated" on how to treat girls / women.. then EQUALLY girls should be "Educated" on how to treat boys / men. Because i've seen a large number of girls / young women and even older women who have ZERO respect for boys, men or their personal boundaries... And yes, I have also seen boys / men who are also guilty of this. Every…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 04:11 AM
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In their delusional world view women have always been held accountable for everything.. So they simply see that slogan as "Balancing the scales" I also hate the fact that they co-opted the phrase and twisted it into something it was never used for and never intended to be used for...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 04:06 AM
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Clearly it is given the fact that its been happening for years..
/r/MensRights19/03/26 09:24 PM
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I'm not saying "every woman does this" you fucking troglodyte! But you are ignoring the FACT that women DO often invade men's restrooms.
/r/MensRights19/03/26 09:11 PM
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There are many examples of women invading men's restrooms out there.. Usually at concerts or other such venues where they unilaterally decide that their need for the restroom supersedes any man's right to use the bathroom.. So they barge into one of the men's bathrooms and take it over, refusing men entry into the restroom that is for them.. Stop acting as if this sort of shit is rare because it isn't...
/r/MensRights19/03/26 11:53 AM
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It absolutely IS normalized.. There was an article about a Taylor Swift concert in Australia where women literally barged in and over took men's rest rooms because the line for the women's rest room was too long. And it was treated as perfectly acceptable behavior for them to do so...
/r/MensRights19/03/26 11:50 AM
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I get where you are coming from I really do.. But, think about how many men there are out there who are ordered by the court to pay child support but are too poor to keep up with the payments.. They don't get a break and are told to pay up or they have their drivers license revoked or even their passport suspended or they get arrested and sent to jail. I'm not saying the same doesn't ever happen with women who are forced to pay child support but I guarantee that it happens commonly to men.
/r/MensRights17/03/26 10:49 PM
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Sure.. but lets not pretend like the system is equal or fair.. Women who have to pay child support can and often do get away with refusing to pay and do not typically face the same consequences a man who refuses to or can not afford to does. Women are less likely to have their drivers license revoked or their passport flagged or even have a warrant issued for their arrest for failure to pay child support.
/r/MensRights17/03/26 10:46 PM
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Yep.. or they chalk up men dying earlier to men being more brash or likely to take risks thrill seek.. But they conveniently ignore the massive numbers of men who break their bodies doing hard manual labor for years to keep our society functioning.. Oh and of course they don't care that despite the fact that men on average don't live as long as women do, Women are allowed to retire earlier than men are..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 10:39 PM
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Men are the majority of the prison population.. yet despite this it seems the narrative of "Women most affected" prevails. Almost £32m investment for women’s services to tackle root causes of reoffending Life‑changing support will help female offenders get their lives back on track Fewer women sent to prison as Women’s Justice Board publishes landmark report And none of the same could be applied to men? Oh and lo and behold the UK has a "Women's Justice Board" but no "Men's Justice Board" Honest…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 10:28 PM
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I would add to the list the fact that in many if not most western countries the crime of "Rape" is specifically defined / gender coded to be a crime that only men can commit. Which then means that if a woman rapes a man, he can not seek the same level of justice against her that a woman could to a man who rapes her. Worse, because the crime is gender coded if a man even attempts to accuse a woman she can pull an UNO reverse card and simply claim he raped her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 08:51 PM
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And yet the most misandrist feminists in the movement are not called out by feminists... They simply hand wave it away with "Oh, they aren't 'Real' feminists" So can we not do the same and simply say "Oh, Andrew Tait isn't a real MRA"? Why do they get to brush aside the extremists in their groups but we aren't allowed to do the same?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 08:38 PM
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Do you think patriarchal society never existed? what exactly is the myth? that we're currently living under it? or that we have holdovers from patriarchal society? or that we ever were under a patriarchal male dominated societal model. I believe that in the past out society was something the more closely resembled what feminists define to be "Patriarchal" But I reject the notion that our society exactly the same now as it was in the past. I also reject the feminist version of original sin where …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 08:36 PM
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I will say that while I have not always agreed with things you have said in this sub you are far and away one of the more rational and consistent feminist guests in this sub. So for what it's worth I thank you for being open minded and staying consistent in your view points.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 08:30 PM
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Ah yes.. despite women flat out being less likely than men to be arrested, charged, convicted and sentenced to jail.. the UK still has to go with the "Women most affected" narrative. Just imagine how many men in the UK are non-violent offenders who have been sent to jail for possessing weed? or shoplifting or something.. Those men could also benefit from the exact same intervention they are proposing for women.. I also hate this victim narrative they are pushing where they treat all but the most…
/r/MensRights17/03/26 08:19 PM
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If a woman is raped by a man she can get an abortion or continue with the pregnancy she has a choice. If a woman rapes a man she has full control of continuing the pregnancy.. The man has no choice, if she continues the pregnancy the man will be forced to pay child support even if he did not consent to it. If a woman rapes an underage boy who legally can not consent to sex and gets pregnant and keeps the baby she can then sue the boy for back dated child support once the child she raped turns 18…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 01:49 AM
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My question is: prison is a leftist issue as it is used by a capitalist mechanism of control. So is it better to approach it from that angle and have it benefit as a side effect When the angle is "Women most affected" and so they focus exclusively on fixing it for women and not men.. How exactly is that a "beneficial side effect"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 01:38 AM
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And what exactly are the academics and educated people doing in regards to the term being misused? The answer: Nothing I also hate the argument of "Oh well you are just uneducated" or "You don't actually understand what the term actually means" Its the motte and bailey fallacy where people can misuse an academic term however they like (the bailey) and then retreat to "Oh you don't understand what the term means" (the motte) when they are called out or criticized. you wouldn't advocate for the er…
/r/MensRights16/03/26 08:28 PM
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What good is the term if it's constantly applied incorrectly?
/r/MensRights16/03/26 07:27 PM
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Firstly, its not framed as "We should not be sending non-violent offenders to prison" its specifically painted as a "Women are suffering from prison" issue. All I see happening here if they go through with this is women further not being sent to prison and thus the statistics will become even more one sided in regards to men and "violent crimes" And those biased statistics will then be used to reinforce changing laws / policies which make it easier for men to be arrested, charged and sent to pri…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/26 06:55 PM
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There's a difference between what something "Means" or is defined as.. and how it is used in practice. I agree with you that the way OP has described intersectionality is not how it is actually defined However, it is pretty close to how it is used in practice.. At least in my experience.. I've had plenty of people using intersectionality tell me that I need to "Check my privilege" because they couldn't get past the point if me intersecting on the lines of "White" and "Male" No other aspects matt…
/r/MensRights16/03/26 06:47 PM
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The problem I have is, when a woman has a negative experience with A man.. its taken as an example of how ALL men behave and its deemed acceptable to generalize all men based on the actions of the minority of men.. Any attempt to rationalize or advise them that they are using faulty logic gets you slapped with insults and labels like: "Misogynist" or "Incel" etc. But of course.. its also a one way street.. If a woman provably falsely accuses a man of rape.. we aren't allowed to generalize ALL wo…
/r/MensRights16/03/26 06:44 PM
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Yeah.. I did wonder about that.. For a gender that apparently is under represented in the medical field they sure do live longer than men who according to them have all the advantages when it comes to the medical field.. No one ever said that logic was their strong point...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/26 05:53 AM
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Yeah.. rather telling really.. I do wonder how they would argue women not being held accountable to the same standard men are in the criminal justice system or how women who commit paternity fraud are often told that there must have been some sort of justification to her cheating on her male partner... Or how a man who thinks about walking away when he finds out he isn't the father is "Not a real man" etc...
/r/MensRights16/03/26 05:49 AM
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Consider for a moment how on many colleges / universities it is trivial for a female student to level an accusation of rape against a male student.. and how these establishments can and will expel a male student accused of rape with zero due process. That couldn't possibly contribute to it all could it?
/r/MensRights16/03/26 05:47 AM
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When I discuss women vs accountability its usually from the point of view from looking at how the criminal justice system treats men compared to women. Women are flat out 50% less likely to receive a prison sentence compared to men and, on the rare exception when they do get a prison sentence for their crimes their sentence will be on average 60% shorter than what a man would get for the same crime. Women are also less likely to be arrested, charged and convicted of their crimes compared to men …
/r/MensRights16/03/26 02:18 AM
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What can I say? I guess I really must be some sort of gross overweight neckbeared incel misogynistic loser who still lives in his parents basement... Imagine the audacity of me expecting gender equality in 2026! /S
/r/MensRights16/03/26 02:07 AM
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Like WH4k or painting mini figures? Sad man child that needs to grow up, same for those who play video games. The irony here is that I can bet that most of them complaining about men painting mini figures or playing video games absolutely thirst over Henry Cavill And yet because of how hot they find him they'd be willing to ignore the fact that he's a gamer and loves WH4k and painting minitures etc...
/r/MensRights15/03/26 10:54 PM
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If there is minister for women and girls (and there is) then there should also be a minister for men and boys.. But of course it will always be blocked by feminists saying "But the whole entire parliament is "For boys and men!" Which is simply not true at all..
/r/MensRights15/03/26 10:16 PM
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I find it funny how they claim "Going to the gym isn't bettering you intellectually" exercising increases blood flow which in turn sends more oxygen to the brain... I don't know about anyone else but I feel a lot more creative or intellectual after i've gone for a long walk or had a work out.. The answer here is that they don't like the fact that we as men have decided we no longer want to play their game and instead of chasing them and giving them the validation they crave we instead focus on o…
/r/MensRights15/03/26 10:10 PM
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Can't be as swift as the coursing river Can't have all the force of a great typhoon Can't have the strength of a raging fire Can't be mysterious as the dark side of the moon
/r/MensRights15/03/26 10:03 PM
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That’s strange because feminism wants to abolish patriarchal gender roles. It would be contradictory for a feminist to tell a man to “be man enough” when feminism revolves around wanting to get rid of these patriarchal roles. Feminism seems to be going the wrong way about abolishing gender roles for men... Consider the fact that many feminists still expect men to pay for all dates with women, often citing "The Pay Gap" as a reason for enforcing the "Patriarchal role" of being a provider Or how m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 09:44 PM
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There is ample reasons why women would want their own space and those reasons don’t really apply to men. You are wrong about the part where you claim that men have no reasons to want their own spaces..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 09:37 PM
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They probably could.. but she would likely be deemed judgement proof. Which means that even if they could win their civil case against her, because she lacks the money / resources to pay any damages awarded to the men would ultimately get nothing out of suing her..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 08:14 PM
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This is not really the right hill to die on…. There is ample reasons why women would want their own space and those reasons don’t really apply to men. Is this a universal truth? Because I don't think that's the case.. Take gyms for example, many women would say they want their own space for safety But i'm sure there are also many men out there who are tired of women who film themselves in the gym who then accuse men who are just minding their own business of being creeps. Your comment also HEAVI…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 07:26 PM
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The worst part is when gyms dedicate women only gym times and refuse men who are paying members entrance at these times yet still charges them the full price of membership while treating them as second class members.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 07:21 PM
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It certainly doesn't help those who are proclaiming what constitutes a "Real Man" are mostly women who could never understand the male lived experience of men due to the lack of their gender. Yet we're expected to believe that they've cracked the code on what is "Toxic" and what is "Positive" masculinity?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 02:24 AM
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Remember, when it comes the feminist notion of "Positive Masculinity" equates to anything which is beneficial for women or that men pay the cost for. In this case, the idea of men being protectors.. its just veiled behind the use of "protecting friends and loved ones" rather than outright claiming men should be protecting women. I also love how many feminists bemoan the decline of chivalry but they seem to treat it as some sort of zero sum game where men are expected to be held to the rules / di…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 02:17 AM
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Its funny to me how most feminists will use the "But false rape accusations are rare" argument.. Yet we don't get to say "Well, FGM is actually rare compared to Male Circumcision" and so based on their own argument we as a society should be more focused on male circumcision than FGM... But the moment you use the same argument / logic against them they fall back to the age old argument of "It doesn't matter how rare it is! FGM is 'worse' and so needs special attention!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 09:41 PM
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If doesn’t mean literally believe all women at instinct but to take them more seriously then we did before Obviously use our brains but this came from a culture where women were and still are dismissed and not listened to The problem is the statement is: "Believe ALL Women" not "Hey, lets take women more seriously than we did before and not simply dismiss their claims" Not only that but there has been a narrative switch in society where the assumption is "A woman would NEVER lie about something …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 06:58 PM
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Prison sentences are most appropriate for dangerous and violent crimes. And the vast majority of those – including murder and sex offences – are committed by men. Men are far more violent than women, and always have been. Ah yes.. use the heavily doctored / biased statistics to prove your point... Men are far more violent because as a society were more likely to arrest, charge, convict and sentence men for violent crimes.. The circular reasoning is complete! It is possible (and would be deeply c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 06:47 PM
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To me, this shows the importance of holding false accusers accountable for their actions. These are not mere lies to be taken as lightly as a kid lying about eating too many snacks; these are heavily serious accusations that causes genuine and serious harm to a person's social life and mental health: they are effectively bombshells to a person's entire livelihood. Should it be proven that the accuser deliberately lied, the falsely accused deserves to be treated as the victims that they are and t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 06:36 PM
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And yet feminists are fond of saying "Not all men, but always A man" So in the case of false rape accusations it would be accurate to claim: "Not all women, but always A woman" right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 06:32 PM
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Which definition?
/r/MensRights13/03/26 06:00 AM
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The truth is men commit most violence or at least most more serious violence. Is it the truth? Or is it was is claimed to be true based on biased legal systems and statistics? Take into account for a moment the FACT that in most countries there's a heavy bias in women's favor when it comes to arresting, charging and convicting women of ANY crime.. So, if women are less likely to be arrested, charged, convicted and sentenced for their violent crimes compared to men then yeah.. the statistics are …
/r/MensRights13/03/26 05:56 AM
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Meanwhile Feminists be like: "This is an isolated case!" yeah because NINETEEN MEN being falsely accused by one women is an "Isolated case" or they will use mental gymnastics to make it seem like because it was only one women falsely accusing multiple men.. it should only be treated as one instance of a woman making a false accusation.. Now, i'm sure everyone agrees that the crime of rape is horrible and disgusting and those who are guilty of it absolutely need to be locked up.. But in the last …
/r/MensRights12/03/26 04:55 AM
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Unless I missed something... Feminism does NOT equal "Women" as there are male and non-binary feminists in the movement. Given that the definition of Misogyny is: dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women How exactly is opposing feminism "Misogyny"?
/r/MensRights12/03/26 04:37 AM
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If women are allowed to define what a "Real Man" is.. Then equally we as men would be allowed to define what a "Real Woman" is... But that's not how it works at all.. When a woman claims what she thinks a "Real Man" is / would do.. she's setting standards / boundaries When a man claims what he thinks a "Real Woman" is / would do.. he's being "Controlling" or setting "Unfair expectations" or "Toxic" As a man in today's world the primary lesson i've learned is that when it comes to men and women t…
/r/MensRights12/03/26 12:01 AM
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How exactly is opposing feminism and feminist rhetoric and dogma of "Men are the cause of all the problems in the world" "Misogyny"? How is holding feminists who claim "Feminism is about equality" or "Feminism is for men too!" accountable when those claims can be proven to be lies, "Misogyny"? How is pushing back against the constant demonization, vilification and generalization of men "Misogyny"? How is pointing out that men ARE victims of domestic violence and sexual assault / rape at the hand…
/r/MensRights11/03/26 11:56 PM
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They should rename it from the United Kingdom to: The Uterus Kingdom...
/r/MensRights10/03/26 07:41 PM
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They also ignore little things like consequences.. If a man steps in to protect a woman that by itself is no legal defense.. If he hits the man harassing her he could be charged with assault and even potentially arrested and jailed. And, as you said a man who steps in may end up in the hospital or morgue.. but because its men paying the price, most women see no problem with men paying that price.
/r/MensRights10/03/26 07:39 PM
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The answer is, because the man is doing what is considered "The bare minimum" Why should he be rewarded or congratulated for achieving "Bare minimum" standard? Or, alternatively.. celebrating a man for protecting a woman would harm the "Men are violent abusers of women" narrative.. and they simply can not have that now can they?
/r/MensRights10/03/26 07:31 PM
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And are you taking into account the bias in the statistics? For example, Men are flat out more likely to be arrested, charged, convicted and sentenced for violent crimes compared to women. Maybe the justice system held violent women accountable to the standard men are the statistics would not be as one sided as they are now?
/r/MensRights10/03/26 07:29 PM
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It feels like we're living in a dystopia where all the onus is on men to protect a woman's "Feelings" Just wait until the Uterus Kingdom makes it a crime for a man's eyes to meet the eyes of a woman without her express consent... Because honestly.. I can see that happening...
/r/MensRights10/03/26 06:00 AM
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And yet here YOU are trying to make it seem like men and women are treated equally in Switzerland when clearly they are not. If they were treated equally women would also be charged the 3% tax for not being in military service.. But women are EXEMPT from this tax.. How is that "equality"?
/r/MensRights10/03/26 03:59 AM
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And everyone already has the option to do civilian service instead. You can even pay a tax and do neither, which will easily pay for itself if you are an above average earner. Clearly not.. given the fact that in Switzerland women are not only exempt from military duty.. but they don't have to do any other sort of civilian service nor do they have to pay a tax if they are incapable or unwilling to do so... So how can "everyone" have the option when that simply isn't the case?
/r/MensRights10/03/26 03:11 AM
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Do you go into the men’s room, see only one guy using the urinal and then stand right next to him? That would be weird. Some would call it a power move...
/r/MensRights09/03/26 09:42 PM
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Alright.. lets start dissecting this slop they call an article.. "Throughout my entire life the onus has always been on the woman to protect herself," The same onus has and continues to be applied to men. Men are expected to protect themselves or at the very least do what they can to minimize harm to themselves.. If that means walking around a building instead of ducking through a dark alleyway then that's something we as men can control to keep ourselves safe. "It uses, effectively, laser beams…
/r/MensRights09/03/26 08:58 PM
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Yeah.. in the US he could sue her and probably even win.. The problem is she would most likely be pronounced judgement proof so even if he wins and the courts agree that her false accusation damaged him he likely wouldn't get a single cent out of her and so not only would he be out of a job, his reputation in tatters but he'd have paid through the nose in lawyer / court costs only to end up with nothing in the end.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/26 08:55 PM
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Ah yes.. he lost his job because of the false accusation but that's okay right? He can just pick himself up by his bootstraps and get another job within the hour right? "The Patriarchy" totally has his back on this right.... Right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/26 06:25 PM
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The problem with your statement is that you equate "An appointment of a pregnant person" to being an appointment which only involves the women / mother to be. But the key thing here is that it also involves the baby growing inside so the appointment isn't exclusively about the woman is it? Ergo, why should it be weird for the soon to be father to want to be there to be involved / find out the progress of their soon to be child?
/r/MensRights07/03/26 09:40 PM
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Yep, when its a man having a one night stand its "Use a condom" or "Accept the consequences of your actions!" But when its a woman getting pregnant from a one night stand and she wants an abortion their stance changes to "Her body, her choice!" But hey.. i'm sure we all know by now, if feminists didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards.
/r/MensRights07/03/26 08:48 PM
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The poster who claims that a woman who rapes a man is going to jail has no fucking clue at all.. In every single case of a woman raping an underage boy and getting pregnant the women were NEVER charged with rape or given a prison sentence.. Instead they were rewarded child support from the boys they had raped who had now just reached legal adulthood.
/r/MensRights07/03/26 08:03 PM
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Men are also more likely to be arrested, charged and convicted of their crimes compared to women.. So yeah.. in the same vein as "Water is Wet" is it any surprise that men are more likely to have prior convictions when the system is literally set up to arrest men over women? And worse, because men are more likely to be arrested, charged, convicted and sent to jail for their crimes the statistics are heavily biased to reflect what appears to be a pandemic of men committing violent crime.. When in…
/r/MensRights07/03/26 10:03 AM
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So apparently men wanting to be active and involved in all stages of child rearing is now considered "weird"? Damned if we do, damned if we don't apparently.. If we take a vested interest in the pregnancy we're "Weird" If we don't take a vested interest in the pregnancy we're "Dead Beats" Its a loose loose situation isn't it?
/r/MensRights07/03/26 09:55 AM
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So you would be perfectly okay with being treated as some sort of abuser or criminal despite never having done anything? And what you forget here is that it takes a minimum TWO people to make a child.. So why then are men constantly being denied input or information regarding how the child is going? Instead of feeling angry about it, we should celebrate that the doctor is caring enough of her patients that they do ask these questions So I shouldn't feel upset at being treated like a fucking crim…
/r/MensRights06/03/26 09:59 PM
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At what point does it become discrimination? During the first visit I could understand them speaking to the woman alone to ensure that she isn't being trafficked or anything like that.. But every single appointment treating the man as though he's some sort of abuser or human trafficker? At what point do we stop and say, you know what.. we need balance here.. Yes we need to keep women safe but it can't be at the expense of treating ALL men as abusers or kidnappers etc..
/r/MensRights06/03/26 09:25 PM
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I fully understand many men drop the ball when it comes to fatherhood. Many men might be absent from raising the kid or being involved. Many men might even be abusers or creeps, but why do they treat all men as if they are? Shouldn’t they be innocent until proven guilty? Why do they act like I’m an abuser or negligent every step of the way? And then they go ahead and reinforce this narrative by deliberately ignoring or leaving men out of the conversations when it comes to THEIR child.. And if a …
/r/MensRights06/03/26 09:21 PM
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Oligarchy is hands down the primary way both men and women are being oppressed worldwide but to ignore the compounding factors of race and sex can be negligent. Note what you said: "compounding factors of race and sex can be negligent." Its funny because feminists often use statistics to back up their claims of why women should treat men as dangerous by default.. But they conveniently ignore as you said the "compounding factors of race and sex" Because if they looked closely at the statistics th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/26 07:28 PM
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I do.. I had a brain fart and simply went on auto pilot..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/26 07:13 PM
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From their perspective because the boy didn't raise a complaint when it happened and the fact that if they were to send the woman to prison for her crime the infant who relies on her would suffer and so they wave their hand and ignore the facts of what led to this situation in favor of telling a young man that the crimes that happened to him do not matter and he needs to "man up" and pay for the child that he could not legally have consented to but they want to enforce what is essentially post-h…
/r/MensRights06/03/26 09:47 AM
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So back in the 90s we started working with women who were arrested and that was a specific group of women. Trying to find out and understand their experience. It was new for our program at the time. I wasn't there then, but it was really a conversation about what leads you to use violence. What happens to you when you do. What are you trying to create when you're resisting his attempts. And yet.. the same level of "Nuance" is not given to men... I wonder why? Maybe its because the model has a pe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/26 09:42 AM
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And how often do feminists bring up the Duke La-cross Team as an example of "Men getting away with rape"? (Despite the fact that it's been proven the women who accused them made it all up) Also, the facts don't change just because this happened "in the past" It still happens.. just go look up Hermesmann v. Seyer as another example of this exact situation happening.. The fact that you lack the empathy to understand why this situation not only unjust but disgusting really does say a lot about you …
/r/MensRights06/03/26 04:04 AM
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The problem here is, they aren't expecting a child to pay child support.. They are expecting an ADULT to pay child support based on the fact that he is no longer a child and thus the state deems him responsible.. Even though we'd all agree that the facts of the case prove beyond a reasonable (and even unreasonable) doubt that he was unable to consent to have sex or consent to the potential results of having sex.. This is why we have laws in place that state "Minors can not consent" But its perfe…
/r/MensRights06/03/26 03:59 AM
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Of course not, because at the present he is no longer a "Child" but is instead considered an adult and thus is responsible for his past actions even when those past actions where when he was a child..
/r/MensRights06/03/26 03:55 AM
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Mostly from a legal standpoint really.. In many countries / states the crime of "Rape" is specifically coded / defined along the lines of "The crime of rape occurs when Person A is penetrated by Person B's genitals without Person A's consent" And under that definition.. only men can be charged with the crime of "Rape" For women they can be charged with "Unlawful Sexual Connection" which feminists will say is TOTALLY taken just as serious as Rape is... When in fact it is not. The crime does not c…
/r/MensRights06/03/26 03:54 AM
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If the "True" feminists aren't actively calling out the extremists then their silence is complicity is it not? And yet how often do we hear from feminists how they want men to hold other men accountable for their misogyny yet they refuse to hold women accountable for their misandry? Quite the double standard no?
/r/MensRights06/03/26 02:00 AM
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Its funny how we get told "Oh.. they are just an extremist" Yet more and more all I see out of feminism is "Extremists" And frankly.. the "Non-extremist" feminists don't seem to be doing ANYTHING about the extremist feminists in their ranks.. I also don't buy the argument of "Oh they can't police crazy..." Its called publicly shaming them for their extremist views and misandry.. But most "Non-extremist" feminists don't want to rock the boat or risk being called out as a "Pick me" or "Gender trai…
/r/MensRights05/03/26 01:57 AM
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Which scenarios happens millions of times? Which scenario is extraordinarily rare? Well.. using your "Logic" there.. lets apply what you have said to "Female Circumcision" Which happens more? Female Circumcision or Male Circumcision? The answer is Male Circumcision Based on your logic.. Female Circumcision by comparison is extraordinarily rare.. But remind me.. which one has been re-classified as "Genital Mutilation" and has been outlawed despite being extraordinarily rare? That's right.. Female…
/r/MensRights03/03/26 07:15 PM
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save the victim mentality for someone whos easy to manipulate Given your clear lack of critical thinking skills its clear you have already been manipulated by agendas and opinions..
/r/MensRights03/03/26 06:38 AM
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So.. why are we seeing more and more women being charged with "Having sex with" underage boys? specifically teachers.. Are they not in positions of authority / trust? Nah.. its clearly ONLY men who do that sort of thing right?
/r/MensRights03/03/26 06:38 AM
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You do realize that there's this handy pill which forces a man to have an erection right? You also realize that a man can be black out drunk and his body will respond to stimulas and thus its possible for a black out drunk guy to become aroused... Nah.. clearly that NEVER happens according to you..
/r/MensRights03/03/26 06:36 AM
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Alright then.. How about the FACT that in the UK, New Zealand, Canada and many states of the USA the crime of "Rape" is specifically gender coded to be a crime that ONLY men can commit as the definitions of the crime specifically state that rape occurs when Person A is penetrated by Person B's Genitals / Penis And seeing as how men are the only gender that have genitals which penetrate it makes it very clear that in the eyes of the law ONLY men can commit the crime of rape. And that's not even a…
/r/MensRights03/03/26 06:34 AM
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And what's the point of that? A woman can get a man black out drunk and ply him with viagra and force him to penetrate her.. By your definition, if that situation happens the man is STILL a rapist because "He penetrated her" Don't you see how fucking disgusting that is? A woman can threaten a man with physical harm or even threaten him with reputational harm by threatening to report him as a rapist if he doesn't have sex with her. In both of those situations if the genders were swapped we would …
/r/MensRights03/03/26 06:32 AM
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Well you know.. If feminists didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have ANY standards..
/r/MensRights03/03/26 01:27 AM
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Or, watch how the staunchest "Strong" and "Independent" feminist magically becomes a Trad-con the moment she's in a divorce and is faced with the possibility of having to pay Alimony or Child support to her soon to be ex male partner.. Suddenly when that happens its "Oh the system is unfair!!!" But when women benefit for decades under that same system its simply treated as the status quo or just how the system works...
/r/MensRights02/03/26 08:53 PM
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Oh? so when men are forced into sex by a woman under the threat of being reported for rape if he does not.. how exactly does it matter if on average he is physically stronger than she is? Or when a woman forces an under age boy to have sex with her? there's actually a massive physical strength advantage for her in that situation. You want facts? How about this: If you go out and get completely smashed out drunk, have sex with a random guy you met at the bar, wake up the next morning and regret i…
/r/MensRights02/03/26 08:50 PM
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So what you're saying here then is that women shouldn't drink alcohol at all? Because that would be the obvious way to minimize the risk no? Also you are ignoring the situation in favor of your own hypothetical of only the woman being drunk. If BOTH the man and woman are equally heavily intoxicated which i'm sure we can both agree would mean that NEITHER of them legally can consent to sex because of their intoxication.. In that specific case why then is it the man is the one who is charge with r…
/r/MensRights02/03/26 06:42 PM
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Some do, but often when a man files a complaint he's not believed or told "Bet you enjoyed it eh?" Or worse.. if a man tries to file a rape complaint against a woman she can very easily UNO reverse the complaint and claim he actually raped her. And because of the current social climate of #BelieveALLWomen who do you think the cops are more likely to believe in that situation?
/r/MensRights02/03/26 06:39 PM
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Because accountability is a foreign concept as far as women are concerned.. They want to be considered "Strong" and "Independent" however at the same time they want protection from consequences of their poor choices.. Although it seems like quite the double standard indeed.. If a woman gets heavily intoxicated and drives a car and then crashes into someone or hits a pedestrian at that point her being "Drunk" is not considered a valid defense.. But if a woman and man gets black out drunk and they…
/r/MensRights02/03/26 06:36 PM
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Spitting facts there! In the extremely rare cases that babies are swapped you are correct, the hospital is held liable and both families get a big pay out. And of course the focus seems to always be on how the mother feels and how her trust in the system has been completely violated by this.. But when a man finds out the child / children he's been raising for years are not actually his? Its "Boo hoo!" "Suck it up!" and a whole lot of emotional gaslighting / manipulation to force the man into sta…
/r/MensRights02/03/26 07:53 AM
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This, "Creepy" is so nebulous that it encompasses anything from "A man looked at me / in my general direction" to "A man asked me if I was having a good day today" Because its so subjective it fails as a descriptor of what is actually "Creepy" behavior.
/r/MensRights02/03/26 02:10 AM
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Its rather funny to see the double standards at play here.. If a man wants a prenup its because hes insecure / doesn't trust her.. If a woman is the more wealthy partner and wants a prenup, she's simply protecting herself.. If a man wants a paternity test he's questioning her trust / loyalty.. If a woman wants a man to unlock his phone / give her access to his messages / social media she's just protecting herself... If a woman stashes money away in a secret bank account its seen as her protectin…
/r/MensRights01/03/26 11:12 PM
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The problem is, with the narrative of "Men on average are physically stronger than women so they can do more damage" is often used to minimize or excuse violence women inflict upon men. Or its usually re-framed or justified as "Self Defense" Now, don't get me wrong there are cases where a woman is defending herself.. But in nearly all cases where it looks like the woman was the violent aggressor it conveniently gets dismissed as "Reactive Abuse" or "I bet he said or did something to cause her to…
/r/MensRights01/03/26 06:09 PM
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Being physically stronger is only a slight advantage. Being on average physically stronger doesn't make a man immune to being stabbed with a knife, run over by a car or shot by a gun. Not only that but women often enlist the aid of "Other men" to inflict violence on their behalf.. so, being on average physically stronger than women means nothing if a woman convinces a man to attack you on her behalf.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 02:12 AM
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Before people come for me, sure there’s probably some of the same on my side of the fence, but in actual feminist discussion groups it’s generally with either a sense of humor or a sense of nuance. The vibe in the men’s rights spaces I’ve been reading is so vitriolic I have to constantly reset my defenses to consider what legitimate analysis underlies it. Amazing.. because when I lurk in feminist spaces and watch their discussions about men being the source of all problems in the world or the pr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/26 06:52 PM
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If that's the case.. why do so many feminists treat ALL men as though we are universally privileged? when clearly we are not?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/26 07:36 AM
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Its funny how when it comes to infant male circumcision the argument is about "Religious / Cultural belief / freedom" But apply the same logic to Female Circumcision and suddenly its "No, its FGM and barbaric!!!" Quite the double standard really..
/r/MensRights27/02/26 09:22 PM
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If a woman is sinking her finger nails into my skin, leaving scratches and drawing my blood or is trying to attack my vital areas like my throat, eyes, etc.. Then yes.. in those situations striking back is absolutely warranted. I'm so sick and tired of this idea that so many women think that because of their gender they are immune from having their physical violence met with physical violence in return. And don't give me the "But men are on average stronger than women are" bullshit. If that's th…
/r/MensRights27/02/26 09:02 PM
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The other thing to consider is how women say "I'm scared of walking alone at night" when the statistics show that men are much more likely to be attacked and harmed walking home alone at night.. The statistics also show women are actually in greater danger from men they actually KNOW vs random men on the street. Does this mean that a random man on the street wont ever attack or attempt to / actually rape a woman? no, not at all but its funny how they can be so confident basing their reactions an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/26 10:18 AM
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Women are conditioned throughout childhood with the notion of "Boys aren't allowed to hit girls" and then they carry it into adulthood with the belief that men are not allowed to hit women. Which in turn gives them what they believe to be diplomatic immunity to be as violent towards men as they like because they've been taught that "Boys / Men are not allowed to hit girls" And of course.. because our society encourages this notion what happens? A woman can go slap happy / scratch crazy on a man …
/r/MensRights27/02/26 10:09 AM
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So throughout recorded history ALL men were in positions of power? I'm sure the serfs of middle aged Europe felt like they were "Privileged" being forced to work and toil on their lords lands and to be conscripted to fight and die in wars caused by their lords... And no, you don't get to squirm out of this with the "I clearly don't mean ALL men" argument.. If you make a statement about "Men" without including a quantifier in that statement then by default you ARE referring to "ALL" men. If you d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/26 10:00 AM
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The point is.. there's a very clear double standard at play here.. They use "Statistics" to justify universal fear of "ALL" men.. But when the statistics objectively prove that the men they know are more of a danger to them than random men they have never met before.. Suddenly its all "Fake statistics" or "But you don't understand the nuance..." or "Those statistics don't count!" etc... As I said, they don't care about what is factually True, they only care about what is true when it comes to su…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/26 05:52 AM
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I see people clutching repeatedly to the narrative that women always have it worse than men, specifically, that women are not safe walking the streets at night whereas men are, but that is simply statistically not true. I am 4x more likely to be murdered and 3x more likely to be physically assaulted than a woman is. Every time I bring that up, I am accused of having a victim mentality and brushed off by the fact the person theoretically murdering/assaulting me is likely male. Its funny how they …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/26 08:14 AM
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I hope the uk also makes a spot to shed light on male victims too. Because if both videos exists then it's more clear that the snake can represent a violent partner of any gender If you think the UK would produce any sort of advertisement / campaign which shows that women can be just as violent or horrible as men.. Then I have a bridge id like to sell you.
/r/MensRights24/02/26 01:23 AM
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It absolutely is NOT a "Fact" as your "fact" is based upon flawed and biased data.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 11:23 PM
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Men are also more likely to actually be arrested, charged and sentenced for their abuse against children. All i'm saying is, "The numbers do not lie" is actually false.. If we held women as accountable as we did men the numbers may still point to men being the majority of abusers but it wouldn't be as one sided as the current numbers makes it look like. If you care about the truth then you'll be willing to look beyond the surface level of "The numbers do not lie" and actually investigate HOW we …
/r/MensRights22/02/26 08:16 PM
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Feminism, as a movement, is rooted in the idea that women deserve equal rights, safety, and respect. That’s a broadly progressive goal. What you’re describing isn’t feminism- it’s people using the label to shield bad or hypocritical views. Any ideology can be misused by individuals who twist it to justify prejudice or push unrelated agendas. That doesn’t redefine the movement itself. Some self-identified feminists hold sexist or extreme views. And yet, I notice a distinct LACK of "actual" femini…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/26 06:08 PM
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So.. demonizing men and boys is NOT harmful to men and boys? You have no fucking idea what you are talking about!
/r/MensRights21/02/26 05:58 PM
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And yet, where are the "True" feminists calling them out? Where are the "True" feminists fighting for men to have equal rights / protections? Where are the Feminists fighting to have the Duluth Model of Domestic Violence overturned and replaced with a model that includes men as victims? They don't exist because they don't want to "Rock the boat" or despite the harm that feminism HAS done against men they see the benefits women have gotten from that harm and think that despite the harm inflicted …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/26 07:32 AM
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Okay then.. if feminism / feminists are for equality.. Please explain how FEMINISTS went to the United Nations to have "Female Circumcision" reclassified as "Female Genital Mutilation" and push for it to be outlawed.. yet these same FEMINISTS couldn't be bothered to request boys / men receive the same protection in regards to Male Circumcision. Surely if feminism were about "Equality" this would have been a simple thing for them to do right? Or, please explain how FEMINISTS in the UK are fightin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/26 11:58 PM
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Feminism is founded on the basis of equality And yet, in reality it fights on the basis of empowering women at the cost / discrimination of men..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/26 11:53 PM
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And Domestic and Sexual violence are also serious issues for men.. but when was the last time we heard anyone in power say "Lets end violence towards men as well"? The answer is never because both Domestic and Sexual violence are constantly framed as "Women's Issues" and men who face domestic or sexual violence are considered to be lesser victims
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/26 11:34 PM
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Feminism is about equality. If the goal is for one sex to have more rights than the other, that isn’t equality, it’s just a new version of the same problem. Oh boy.. if only feminism were actually for equality.. If feminism is for "equality" as you clam.. then please explain how / why FEMINISTS: - Petitioned the United Nations to have "Female Circumcision" re classified as "Female Genital Mutilation" and for it to be outlawed, yet they couldn't EQUALLY request boys / men receive the same protect…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/26 09:30 PM
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The idea behind a Prenup is to protect both parties in the case of a divorce. However if for example the man has 800K in savings before marrying a woman and he gets her to sign a prenup to protect that 800K then some judges will simply declare it to be "Unfair" and will throw the prenup out and force him to give up 1/2 of that 800K savings to the women despite her not "earning" it nor contributing to it during the marriage. Now to be clear.. If during a marriage both parties contribute to a savi…
/r/MensRights20/02/26 06:32 PM
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The correct answer here is: If someone murders someone else they should be treated equally under the law.. Case in point.. if a man would get 20 - 35 years for murdering a woman.. then equally a woman should get 20 - 35 years if she murders a man.
/r/MensRights20/02/26 06:25 PM
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A patriarchy doesn't benefit men as a general group, it benefits rich and powerful men Why then are feminists CONSTANTLY blaming the 99% of men who are NOT "rich" or "powerful" or why then do they treat us as though we are part of the problem or they treat us as though because the top 1% of positions in society are held by men, that means that ALL men share in that level of power / privilege when clearly that's not the case?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/26 09:02 AM
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The issue is, we don't live in a "Patriarchy" we live in an "Oligarchy" (which just happens to be somewhat patriarchal) Our system is not setup by "Men" to protect and benefit "Men" Our system is setup by the rich / powerful to protect and keep the rich and powerful in control at the cost / oppression of everyone else. But instead of understanding this.. feminists want to continue focusing on "The Patriarchy" which doesn't actually exist because it aligns with their narrative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/26 07:49 AM
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If you look at the pyramid within the box, where it shows men at the "top" and women at the "bottom" this is to denote the typical feminist viewpoint when it comes to gender dynamics between men and women where they see men as being at the top of society and women at the bottom of society. Or rather its more an encapsulation of the Apex fallacy where they see that the very top positions of society are held by men and thus they assume that to be the default setting for ALL men. Women then by defa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/26 07:37 AM
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And that's the problem.. they blame everything on "The Patriarchy" which is a convenient boogieman for them.. "The Patriarchy" is gender coded as being male which means that when feminists blame "The Patriarchy" they are essentially blaming "Men" Just look at how often feminists respond to the issues men face with: "And who set the system up? Men!!" "Yeah, by other men!" "This is an example of The Patriarchy backfiring.." I also doubt your claim of "Women are more physically threatened day to da…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/26 07:34 AM
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And yet, despite it being mostly men paying alimony to women.. most feminists still declare that we live in a "Patriarchy"
/r/MensRights20/02/26 01:48 AM
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Okay.. but at the same time if a man and a woman CHOOSE to have one or more children then the obvious consequence of that choice is that said children require care.. And its not generally possible for both the man and the woman to stop working to raise the child ergo the common strategy is that the person who earns less stops working to focus on raising the child. And yes, in most cases this happens to be women who find themselves in this position. But again, if they make the CHOICE to have a ch…
/r/MensRights20/02/26 12:14 AM
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Idk man. Alimony is paid from the higher earner to the lower earner, it's not inherently gendered. If you don't want to pay Alimony, then don't marry someone who has/makes money different than you. And the fact the men are in general more likely to be the higher earner in the relationship means nothing here? Also, nice idea about "Don't marry someone who has less money / makes less money than you. In many places simply co-habituating with a woman for a certain period of time is enough to have yo…
/r/MensRights19/02/26 09:29 PM
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I'm calling it what it is because if the genders were flipped here you can BET women would be telling her that if you refused to sign a prenup its a "Red Flag" Hell.. i'd be willing to bet that if she brings up that you want a Prenup on a different sub, women will be calling the fact you want a Prenup a "Red Flag" So i'm only fighting fire with fire here.
/r/MensRights19/02/26 09:22 PM
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The problem with the "Man Vs Bear" thing is that while it was touted about women's "Safety" it ignored very key facts. Firstly, the fact that a woman is more likely to be harmed, raped, SA'd or killed by a man she intimately knows (Boyfriend, Partner, Family etc) compared to being killed by a random stranger. Yet despite this fact many women still "Choose the Bear" over a man they do not know Despite the statistics being right there telling them that a woman is statistically SAFER with a random …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/26 09:08 PM
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The problem here is, Feminism has for decades now forced lies down the throat of the public consciousness. We've heard for decades from feminists how feminism is "A movement for equality" and how feminism is "For men too" They also love to claim "Equality is not a zero sum game" But all of these statements are lies and obfuscations. When we ask what feminism is doing for the issues we as men face, given their claims about being for "Equality" and "Men Too" we would expect them to also fight for …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/26 09:01 PM
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As you said, the issues are often minimized or hand waved away with "Oh that's just The Patriarchy backfiring" or "And who setup the system in the first place? Men!" or "By other Men" The idea is to victim blame and shame men for their own issues while dismissing them as "Lesser" and reminding everyone that "Women's issues" are more important.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/26 08:52 PM
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What does Donald Trump being the current president of the United States have to do with anything? He is ONE man True he's in the highest position of authority in the United States but that doesn't magically mean that ALL men share that level of power does it? Nor does it mean that his actions are a reflection of every other man in the world? If you want to go down that road and want to hold men accountable for the actions of specific men like Donald Trump, then that would mean that we would have…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/26 08:49 PM
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"When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression," is a common phrase slung at men speaking up for themselves. However, when I am talking to men who live in the society feminists scrutinize, I see anything but privilege. If anything, it seems more likely the people saying this phrase like a mantra are the ones with privilege, and are using it to beat down men who are worse off than them into silence by using shame and gaslighting them into thinking they're oppressors. It feel…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/26 08:41 PM
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Are you planning to have kids? At best, this is going to side track her career. Often having kids significantly reduces ability to earn…for life, because even long after kids are grown, she will have missed time and opportunities. That shouldn’t be the way it is, but it is….to deny it is just silly and frankly, hurtful. What if she becomes a SAHM, does the prenup account for those years? Okay then, will the Prenup take into account that if she becomes a SAHM thus "Sacrificing her career" will it…
/r/MensRights19/02/26 08:33 PM
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And its funny how many "feminist" women instantly become conservative when if during a divorce they find out that they might have to pay their soon to be ex-partner alimony... Many divorce lawyers have seen feminist women become conservative on the spot in those situations.. And of course.. when in the rare case a woman is the one with the higher income and she has to pay alimony, give up half her savings, 401k etc.. In those situations suddenly its all "Alimony is unfair!!!" But when it happens…
/r/MensRights19/02/26 08:27 PM
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it's about protecting what I worked hard to build before we even met. But she keeps saying things like "marriage is about sharing everything" and "you clearly don't trust me." This right here is a MASSIVE red flag.. She is emotionally manipulating you to do what she wants.. She wants the security of knowing that if she marries you, YOU need to bend over backwards to please her every demand otherwise she will divorce you and take a large chunk of what you have saved / earned. The fact that she's …
/r/MensRights19/02/26 05:59 PM
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The point i'm making is, if we can't / don't send women to jail for killing their kids due to PPD then equally if its found a man is suffering from PPD and he kills his kid(s) then he too should be spared jail right? But that's not how it works, and I think that's the overall message of this thread.. Women are essentially given a free pass when they kill their kids because its chalked up to PPD and so they are treated as though they are innocent by reason of insanity.. Its yet another example wh…
/r/MensRights19/02/26 05:44 PM
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That's a pretty over zealous generalization you have going on there.. I wouldn't put a stop to all of that, but I would make things more equal.. Case in point, the fact is the pendulum in regards to university admittance and scholarships has swung past the point of "Equality" and now has moved into the position of discrimination against men. I'd adjust things to make things equal again and no further. Stop trying to feel all noble and heroic about yourself and take credit for what you did not do…
/r/MensRights19/02/26 08:44 AM
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I agree that it is real.. However it does feel like its conveniently used as a diagnosis to excuse women murdering children.. Also, despite the fact that yes, men CAN get PPD often referred to as Paternial Postpartum Depression isn't it weird that when a man kills a child its almost NEVER considered that he might be suffering from this? and any attempt to bring it up is often met with accusations of trying to "co-opt" PPD or to excuse his actions... Quite the double standard no?
/r/MensRights19/02/26 08:41 AM
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Coca-Cola Beverages Northeast excused female employees who attended the event from their normal work duties without requiring them to use paid time off, and covered all of their hotel room charges, according to the lawsuit. I'm sure this will be used in the defense of the case where they state "Men weren't bared from attending!" while omitting the fact that if any man wanted to attend it would require them to: - Use PTO to attend - Pay their own hotel costs. The end result here is even IF they c…
/r/MensRights19/02/26 08:17 AM
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And how exactly is pointing out sexist discrimination against men "Misogyny" If you are a man then you seem to be one of those boot licking men who have drunk the feminist kool-aid.. What's next, men breathing the same air as women is misogyny? Maybe it will progress to a man's eyes meeting the eyes of a woman as being misogyny... Oh wait.. the UK is already pushing to make "Unwanted Staring" by men a crime... So yeah.. you seem to have a VERY broad / loose definition of what counts as "Misogyny…
/r/MensRights19/02/26 08:14 AM
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Ah yes.. because this was posted in the sub its because "we" created it.. Sound logic you have there....
/r/MensRights19/02/26 01:39 AM
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And what exactly are YOU doing about the male suicide rate? Sure seems easy to criticize from the safety of your armchair at home doesn't it?
/r/MensRights19/02/26 01:27 AM
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Its utterly insane to me how the UK is getting away with creating a very obvious two tiered justice system where if you are a man the default assumption is: You're an abuser, a piece of shit, a monster etc and you must be punished! If you are a woman, the default assumption is: You're a victim, you aren't responsible for what you have done, a man "made" you do it, Jail is so much more harmful for women so we won't send you to jail regardless of how violent or damaging your crime was... Boy I can…
/r/MensRights18/02/26 08:17 PM
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Yep.. quite the double standard there.. "We can't hold women accountable for what their hormones cause them to do!" While on the other hand.. "Men are full of testosterone which simply makes them violent and we need to hold them accountable!"
/r/MensRights18/02/26 08:01 PM
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Couple this with the fact that in many if not most countries, men are flat out more likely than women to be arrested, charged, convicted and sentenced for violent / sexual crimes compared to women.. Oh, and the fact that in most / many countries the definition of the crime of Rape is gender coded to be a crime that only men can commit. This in turn leads to a self-fulfilling narrative of "Men commit the majority of rape"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/26 08:30 AM
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From the comment section of the article: "The men who are worried about "equality" if you don't attack women then it wont be a problem for you" Ah yes.. so when a woman is going slap happy on a man and the man has enough and pushes her away or slaps her once or punches her once.. i'm SURE he won't be charged with "Misogyny" right? The biggest issue here is how exactly do they go about deciding that a crime was motivated by "Misogyny" Unless of course their default assumption is that ALL crimes c…
/r/MensRights18/02/26 04:41 AM
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How do you go about proving that a man committed a crime against a woman BECAUSE of her gender? If a man is getting yelled at / physically violent with a man and he snaps and throws a punch at her.. Did he do it because she's a woman or did he do it in response to the violence she was inflicting upon him? What do you think the default position is going to be here? If you think they aren't going to assume that ALL cases of male on female crime are due to "Misogyny" then you are drinking the kool-…
/r/MensRights17/02/26 07:58 PM
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Another example is how many women / feminists framed the overturning of Roe Vs Wade as "Men wanting to oppress women and control their bodies" ignoring the fact that MANY women actually pushed for and voted for Roe Vs Wade to be overturned...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/26 06:17 PM
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From my perspective, a lot of intersectionality discourse ends up being just another binary worldview of Oppressor vs Oppressed, just disguised as something more complex. People bring up examples like black men having the social “debuff” of being black while also having the social “buff” of being male, and honestly that wouldn’t be wrong in itself depending on the interpretation. The problem is that it gets pushed to an extreme where being male supposedly grants so much “privilege” that it overr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/26 07:55 AM
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The claims of circumcision being for "hygienic purposes" is bullshit. True fact, the foreskins of infant boys which are removed without any form or anesthetic or pain killers are sold to companies who use those foreskins to make face / skin cream for the wealthy.. Also, the problem here is that rather than turning it into an argument of one being worse than the other how about instead we as a society come together and say "Hey, lets not violate peoples bodily autonomy by mutilating their genital…
/r/MensRights16/02/26 08:01 PM
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I'm also sorry that your understanding of men's rights and the issues we as men face is so woefully lacking... Might I suggest you educate yourself on the subject?
/r/MensRights16/02/26 05:38 AM
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The Tik Tok videos of women generating drama on men LOOKING in their direction at the gym say otherwise.. If i'm in the gym minding my own business with my ear buds in, focusing on my reps what's to stop a woman claiming that because I just so happened to look in her direction i'm a "Creep" Honestly i'd go join a men only gym but there aren't any in my city.. At least then I wouldn't have to walk on egg shells and worry that any thing I say or do could get me listed / flagged as a "creep" If it …
/r/MensRights16/02/26 05:22 AM
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So, to be clear I am going to mention what it stands for (for any lurkers out there who may not be aware) VAWA (Violence Against Woman Act) or VAWAG (Violence Against Women And Girls (in the UK)) The problem with both of these, is it treats violence as one directional and implicitly implies that its ONLY men committing violence against women.. Or in the case of the UK policy, men who are victims of domestic violence have their violence tallied down under the "Violence Against Women and Girls" st…
/r/MensRights16/02/26 05:11 AM
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And of course when you try to hold feminists accountable for this they hand wave it away with: "Oh, those aren't "Real" feminists" or "But FGM is "Worse" than male circumcision" or "Stop expecting women to fix men's problems!" etc..
/r/MensRights15/02/26 07:08 AM
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Citation Needed I'm pretty sure the serfs of middle age Europe had less rights than the nobles.. (Including noble women) I'm also pretty sure when the Titanic sank men didn't have the same "Rights" to access the life boats that women did... Need I go on?
/r/MensRights15/02/26 05:52 AM
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Gee wiz! I wonder why "The Patriarchy" forces boys who were RAPED by older women to pay child support to the woman who raped them? Sure does sound like the sort of system setup to protect boys / men at cost / oppression of women doesn't it?
/r/MensRights15/02/26 05:50 AM
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As mentioned in my first comment, I have had the burden of being sexualisesed, so I naturally am wary about most men due to experiences. It doesnt mean that my experiences color every man I meet a bad one, but I am extra sensitive about stuff related to uncomfortable acctions. Some men respect it when I mention so, others do not. It doesnt automatically make you bad, just that some women and girls go through experiences that frighten them so much, they cant help but react badly at times. In thos…
/r/MensRights15/02/26 05:38 AM
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Exactly! I keep hearing about how more and more boys / men are becoming Right Wing. They refuse to do any sort of reflection and instead pin the blame on the usual suspects of "Misogyny", "Toxic Masculinity" and "The Patriarchy" All while ignoring the fact that the Left Wing (In general, not including this sub) has been alienating, demonizing, vilifying and generalizing boys / men as "Oppressors", "Evil", "Monsters" etc for decades now. They also have been laying the blame for the issues boys / …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/26 06:52 PM
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Well good for you.. But that still doesn't stop the FACT that all a man needs to do in today's society is simply LOOK in the direction a woman is walking / sitting and for her to see it and then if she feels uncomfortable by this BAM! the guy is instantly labeled as a creep! I do respect Trauma, and at an individual level if someone said "I had a negative experience with people of X characteristic and so i'm now cautious around people who share that characteristic" I'd support that. The problem …
/r/MensRights14/02/26 06:46 PM
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If that's the case then why am I as a man being blamed for things I have ZERO control over? Also.. I call bullshit! If we lived in a "Patriarchy" as described by feminists then it would be completely IMPOSSIBLE for women to make false rape accusations against men Yet they DO happen. If we lived in a "Patriarchy" Men wouldn't be getting longer prison sentences compared to women If we lived in a "Patriarchy" Alimony wouldn't be a thing Yet all of the above DO happen "The Patriarchy" is the feminis…
/r/MensRights14/02/26 06:40 PM
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If by that you mean that mean are more likely than women to be arrested, charged, convicted and sentenced for violent crimes then sure... But I wonder, if women were held to the same standard men are would the statistics be less one sided?
/r/MensRights14/02/26 10:03 AM
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Would you say the same also applies to men? I myself have suffered abuse at the hands of women.. Both of them were known to me, one was a care taker who would look after me and my siblings after school while my parents worked, the other was the boss of my department at my first job. Both were physically, emotionally and mentally abusive towards me Would I be justified in treating ALL women as potential dangers to me based on my experiences? If not then why is it not okay for me or other men to b…
/r/MensRights14/02/26 09:58 AM
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Its worse that that.. it feels like when a woman talks about needing / going to therapy she is told she is "Brave" or "Empowering herself" and that its the right thing to do.. On the flip side, as you said when ever therapy is mentioned in relation to men its always seems to be from the context of "You as a man are broken and need therapy to fix yourself" or "You are clearly mentally ill, go get some therapy!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/26 09:53 AM
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The problem is, even when men "Do the Work" as they put it.. its treated as men doing the bare minimum.. There is also pervasive idea that the male loneliness crisis is self inflicted by men.. and sure.. to be charitable to an extent SOME of the blame does fall onto men self sabotaging themselves.. But the crucial part here is how they keep bringing up "Accountability" and the expectation that only men need to be held accountable.. But not women, and not the rest of society.. Nah, its exclusivel…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/26 09:50 AM
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Exactly this! I'm just tired of being constantly demonized, vilified and generalized for things I have never and WILL never do simply because I share the same gender with other individuals who have done horrible things to women. I'm also tired of the blatant double standards.. Its acceptable to pile on collective blame / guilt onto men for the actions of other men.. Yet we aren't allowed to hold ALL women responsible for the crimes of other women.. If a woman falsely accuses a man of rape, we do…
/r/MensRights14/02/26 09:34 AM
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I'm a man on here and I do not hate women.. Ergo your statement is false.
/r/MensRights14/02/26 09:29 AM
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If that's the case then why is there all this fearmongering around "Women don't know which men are the 'Good' ones and so they have to treat ALL men as dangerous" Based on what you said women are infinitely more safe with a random man she meets on the street vs a man she actually knows.. Yet remind me.. how many women chose "The Bear" in the Man Vs Bear hypothetical?
/r/MensRights14/02/26 09:29 AM
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Ah yes.. I'm annoyed with constantly being demonized, vilified and generalized based on my gender day after day after day and apparently that's a sign that I "Can't handle my emotions" Now then.. what do feminists call it when men DON'T open up with their emotions again.. Oh yes that's right.. when we as men don't open up emotionally we get accused of having / exhibiting "Toxic Masculinity" So I guess men are damned if we do, damned if we don't huh? Also.. its ironic that you are telling me to g…
/r/MensRights14/02/26 09:23 AM
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Okay then.. so men who have been abused by women would rightfully be okay to be cautious around women right? Or if a man were falsely accused of rape by a woman he would be justified in being cautious around women right? Oh wait.. only women are allowed to have caution around men because of bad past experiences.. When women are cautious around men because of their previous bad experiences with a / SOME men its fully justified and logical.. When men have had bad experiences with women and are cau…
/r/MensRights14/02/26 09:18 AM
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Blaming "The Patriarchy" is akin to Christians blaming "The Devil" for bad things.. I keep hearing how we live in a "Patriarchy" which is designed to "Protect and Benefit men at the cost / oppression of women" Yet I can supply multiple examples of how men in today's society are NOT "Protected" or "Benefited" over women.. and are in fact discriminated against compared to women.. But of course each and every example I give is slapped back with "Oh, that's juts The Patriarchy backfiring!" Which is …
/r/MensRights14/02/26 06:47 AM
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An estimated 91% of victims of rape & sexual assault are female and 9% male. Nearly 99% of perpetrators are male. (1) This US Dept. of Justice statistic does not report those who do not identify in these gender boxes. And have you taken into account or consideration that in many countries / states in the USA the crime of "Rape" is specifically gender coded to be a crime that ONLY men can commit? Oh, and lets not forget that women are flat out less likely than men to be arrested, charged and sent…
/r/MensRights14/02/26 06:39 AM
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I agree that it is a collective issue that we as males need to fix So.. equally then we could say that women making false rape accusations is a collective issue that women need to fix right? Or how about the rampant misandry women hurl towards men on a daily basis? surely that would also be a collective issue that women need to fix? Yet, if you were to suggest that at all you would be labeled as a "Misogynist" or "Incel" or told "Its not the same" Why is it men are expected to share collective g…
/r/MensRights14/02/26 06:36 AM
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And how many men have been labeled a "Creep" or had a false rape accusation leveled against them or have faced physical, emotional, or even sexual violence at the hands of women and due to their trauma they decide to avoid women? Oh wait... when men avoid women based on their past trauma they are being "Misogynists" or "Incels" But when women avoid / generalize men based on past traumas its perfectly logical... Do you not see the blatant double standards?
/r/MensRights14/02/26 06:33 AM
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Spoken with the confidence of the ignorant.. "Men’s rights isn’t an actual problem." Oh.. so I guess the fact that men are being discriminated against at literally EVERY SINGLE STAGE of the criminal justice system is not "An actual problem" I also guess infant boys having their genitals and their rights to bodily autonomy violated after being born is also NOT "An actual problem" Oh and I guess men being falsely accused of the horrible crime of rape and being sent to jail for a decade or longer i…
/r/MensRights14/02/26 06:31 AM
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Do you realize that you are using the EXACT SAME rhetoric the Nazi's used to justify hatred / fear of Jews? Go look up Der Giftpilz where they claim just as it difficult to tell a poisonous mushroom from an edible mushroom its difficult to tell a Jew apart from a Gentile. So.. how does it feel using the same rhetoric the Naiz's used to fearmonger hatred and distrust towards Jews in the exact same way as doing it towards ALL men?
/r/MensRights14/02/26 01:17 AM
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The fact that its considered a "Joke" is part of the problem.. Yet if we were to flip the genders and make it about a man saying "If you cheat on me i'll cut your clitoris or breasts off" that in no way shape or from would be accepted as a "Joke" Its because we've had decades of men being demonized, vilified and generalized as "Evil" or "Monsters" that is now become acceptable to label even hypothetical violence against men as "A Joke" And when a woman DOES inflict violence upon a man by cutting…
/r/MensRights13/02/26 08:37 AM
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Unlike feminists who are quite happy to generalize ALL men.. we tend to at least quantify our statements with words like "Some" or "Many" or "Most" you know.. being explicit that we aren't talking about ALL women..
/r/MensRights13/02/26 08:34 AM
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Okay cool.. explain the "Logic" where a man works 12+ hours a day in physical / dangerous work conditions to earn money to support the family to keep a roof over their heads, keep the power / gas running, provide food, clothing etc.. And yet.. despite ALL of that in most countries women are allowed to retire earlier than men.. also, despite the fact that they "fuck up their bodies and health to give us children" (Your words not mine) Women on average live longer than men... Also, nice infantaliz…
/r/MensRights12/02/26 11:05 PM
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Probably because men pretty much always have the ability to stop it, and the concept of female on male sexual assault is kind of ridiculous. How am I supposed to rape a man? I weigh 108 pounds. Ah yes.. because women have NEVER gotten men black out drunk before.. or slipped them roofies and or held a gun / knife to their head / throats and forced them to do what she wanted.. Oh and of course no woman has EVER forced a man to have sex with her by threatening him that if he didn't she would go to …
/r/MensRights12/02/26 09:16 PM
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That or they hire men to commit their violence by proxy..
/r/MensRights12/02/26 09:11 PM
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The problem here is.. because men tend to choose more lethal forms of suicide they often only need on attempt to be successful.. Women on the other hand are more likely to overdose on pills or cut themselves which by no means is less serious but they ARE more likely to survive using those methods compared to men. So what happens when you have men who make one attempt and succeed in committing suicide and you have multiple women who make multiple attempts but don't actually succeed? The stats the…
/r/MensRights12/02/26 09:07 PM
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Equality for He, not for SHE
/r/MensRights11/02/26 05:59 AM
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I'm sorry.. but have we not entered the age of "Strong, Independent Women"? As such being that I respect their strength and independence, me paying for their meal on a date would only show me to be a bigoted misogynist who thinks that women are incapable of paying for their own food. As such I choose to respect this choice of women being both strong and independent and refuse to pay on dates as a sign of solidarity to the sisterhood!
/r/MensRights11/02/26 04:55 AM
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Given the fact that literally ANYTHING can be considered "Harassment" by women these days.. I'm not at all surprised if men don't even shout out "Watch out for that falling piano" to women anymore And yes you have a point.. but I think the narrative of "Men constantly cat call women" is heavily over exaggerated these days.. I'm not saying it doesn't happen.. but I doubt its as "frequent" as we are led to believe.. I think I will take your advice though.. I will go ahead and mind my own business,…
/r/MensRights11/02/26 04:26 AM
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Why would men want to be "Hero's" given the current social climate? Just take a look around at the blatant and daily bashing, generalizing, demonization and vilification of men.. Not only that but as the article points out, If a man does step in he can often face drastic legal consequences / lawsuits Not only that but in many cases being a "Hero" could lead a man to being critically injured or even killed.. And yet, men who don't step up / protect women are shamed and called "Cowards" There was …
/r/MensRights10/02/26 07:51 PM
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The problem is when the elected officials start implementing a bachelor tax..
/r/MensRights09/02/26 10:14 PM
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Patriarchy exists the same way white supremacy does. Are white people’s feelings hurt by that admittance? Sure. It’s weighty. Frankly, I do not care. Patriarchy is systemic the same way white supremacy is. It sure if funny how feminists love to point to every single issue or lack or rights women have as being caused by "The Patriarchy" while also claiming that any / all issues men face are also caused by "The Patriarchy" The problem is with the premise, "The Patriarchy" is commonly defined by mo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 08:37 PM
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Whats in it for men ? Interesting thought. I don’t stand up for what I believe in because there is something in it for me. I do it because I want to stand for the morals and values that I believe in. If we all look for what we can get out of something- we are looking in the wrong direction. If it helps I'm not completely misanthropic I do agree that there are legitimate issues women specifically face and there are issues I'm willing to support women on. My comment comes from the position of bein…
/r/MensRights09/02/26 09:25 AM
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Is it really surprising that boys / young men are seeing men being demonized and vilified in the news and main stream media and are being less inclined to care about women's issues? We have feminists spouting about how they want men to "Be their allies" but when you actively look at how most feminists treat boys / men or can't even be bothered to police the misandry within their own movement and then act surprised when men don't want a bar of them.. After all, what's in it for men? at the end of…
/r/MensRights09/02/26 06:50 AM
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Adding onto this.. A man does ask for help = He's weak or is "trauma dumping" or saddling women with emotional labor or is treating women like free therapists A woman asks for help = She's brave and needs support.. Its quite the insane dichotomy..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/26 09:30 PM
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Its a statement used to shield one's bigotry from criticism.. Its essentially used as a rebuttal to the "Not all Men" criticism of generalizations made about men. Essentially they are circling the argument around to say "Sure, Not all men, but its always a man who is raping or murdering or inflicting violence on a woman" The funniest thing here is, the exact same argument / quote can be used in regards to the positive things men do. For example, Not all men are firefighters or will run into a bu…
/r/MensRights07/02/26 07:14 AM
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https://helpfulprofessor.com/toxic-masculinity-examples/ The problem with the term is that they define it generally as: "toxic masculinity” is used to refer to a loosely interrelated collection of norms, beliefs, and behaviors associated with masculinity, which are harmful to women, men, children, and society more broadly." But then they go and start labeling literally EVERYTHING a man says or does which either women disagree with or find offensive as "Toxic Masculinity" But by far the worst asp…
/r/MensRights06/02/26 05:15 PM
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Your deflection proves their point.. The fact is we only EVER hear about "Toxic Masculinity" Yet when we ask "Hey, if Toxic Masculinity exists, then obviously Toxic Femininity exists too right? They respond with "It does.. but it's not called that.. its called: 'Internalized Misandry'" Pretty telling how its "Toxic Masculinity" when it comes to men but "Internalized Misandry" when it comes to women no?
/r/MensRights06/02/26 06:30 AM
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So, apparently he had been out drinking, got home was hungry and so made a Door Dash order for some Wendies. I suspect what happened after he placed the order was he sat down on the couch and in the process his pants fell down, then he nods off. He may not have closed his door properly, i've done that myself while drunk.. The point here though is that his order specifically stated: "leave the food at the door" Not, Open the door and put the food inside.. So what seems to have happened here is, s…
/r/MensRights06/02/26 04:05 AM
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On the one hand.. she IS being held accountable for her false accusation.. On the other hand I feel the sentence is far too light based on the circumstances.. An Innocent man was looking at 8+ years in jail based on her false accusation And she's getting a paltry 2 years? And of course she blames it on being drunk... Yet when someone is drunk and decides to drive home we don't allow them to blame their actions on being drunk do we? I feel that in cases like these where the proof is definitive th…
/r/MensRights05/02/26 09:45 PM
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And why are women allowed to define what is "Toxic" masculinity and what is "Positive" masculinity? You would think that Masculinity being something typically attributed to men we as men would understand it better than women right? But no.. we have women / feminists who seem to be literal experts when it comes to what is Toxic vs Positive masculinty Does this mean that we as men are allowed to declare what is "Toxic Femininity" and what is "Positive Femininity"? The answer to that would be no an…
/r/MensRights05/02/26 08:39 PM
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And yet.. the majority of feminists DO use the term "Toxic Masculinity" as an attack against men.. And when you point out the flaws of their term / how they are using it they typically slap back with "Oh you are being obtuse!" or "You clearly don't understand the 'nuance' behind the term" They refuse to understand that for many men the term is nothing more than a cudgel used to bash / blame men for the issues we face.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 08:36 PM
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From what i've seen with my own eyes.. men who cheat are vilified and called out for cheating.. Women who cheat are lorded and told that she shouldn't feel guilty.. It SHOULD be true for both genders that cheating is wrong.. but in our current society we only call out men who cheat. Not only that but if a married woman cheats on her partner and he files for divorce over it who ends up better off? In most cases its the woman who cheated as she often gets the house, default custody of the children…
/r/MensRights05/02/26 05:33 AM
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This is a perfect example of the double bind we as men face on a daily basis. We get mixed messages and are put into no win scenarios. If we don't show emotion when bad things happen it gets treated as a "Red flag" and they claim that we might be a danger to them. If we do show emotion when bad things happen we get told it gives them the "Ick" and they don't think we can protect them if bad things happen.. Its a lose / lose situation..
/r/MensRights04/02/26 10:12 PM
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Its 100% this! For decades now men have learned that opening up usually results in a net negative to them.. So instead of opening up they close up / bottle things up.. And we are damned if we do, damned if we don't.. If we don't "Open up" we get told we're exhibiting "Toxic Masculinity" But if we do open up we get told that we're giving women the "Ick" or we get told to stop "Trauma dumping" or saddling women with "Emotional Labor" or told "Women are not your therapists!" All while of course bei…
/r/MensRights04/02/26 10:09 PM
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If a man cheats on a woman, its because he's a piece of shit and is never justified If a woman cheats on a man its because he wasn't satisfying her or not giving her enough attention and is fully justified. And of course i'm sure the bleeding hearts out there will try to spin things here as they usually do: "Oh well clearly she felt threatened by her partner whom she was cheating on, he was probably abusive which also contributed to her cheating on him" Or something like that...
/r/MensRights04/02/26 05:32 AM
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Later that year, a therapist who saw clients referred to her by Child Protective Services (CPS) and other agencies began meeting with Moreno’s daughter, identified as A.M. in court records at the time. The therapist would later testify she asked the child, who was then eight years old, if her father ever touched her in an inappropriate way. According to the therapist, the child said “no”. That answer would change in September 2001 when the child began seeing another therapist assigned as part of…
/r/MensRights04/02/26 05:29 AM
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Its funny how when it comes to the dangerous, dirty or physically demanding jobs the argument is "Men CHOOSE to do those jobs" Yet when we point out that jobs women CHOOSE to do directly co-relate to women EARNING less than men do we get told "No, there's inherent sexism / bias against women!" Or we get told that women should be free to choose what job they do but earn the same amount that men do.. Typical cakeism.. These are also the sort of people who will claim that men who end up homeless / …
/r/MensRights04/02/26 05:19 AM
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In many cases I've heard of women accusing men of "Weaponized Incompetence" its usually because the man did what was asked but not in the same way or to a standard they expected. Also, your argument could also apply to women who push responsibility back onto men. For example if a man asked his wife to mow the lawn and she says "But you do it better than me anyway" or she deliberately does a half arsed job / does it badly so that he then has to go out there and do it anyway.. I think the point of…
/r/MensRights29/01/26 08:32 PM
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I would also add Changing a tyre to the common uses of weaponized incompetence.. My dad when he taught all of us to drive also taught us basic maintenance / repair skills and that included how to change a tyre But how often do these women blog on Tik Tok about how they had a flat tyre and not one single man stopped to help them.. Or, when they do, depending on how attractive they find the man they either sing his praise or call him out as a "creep" Since the advent of the internet and social med…
/r/MensRights29/01/26 08:26 PM
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“We’ve seen courts order children to live with an abusive father and prevent them from having any contact with their mother, even when the father’s violence is well documented,” Geiger-Bardswich said. “This bill is essential to ensure that safety and well-being, not outdated myths, guide family court decisions.” And we have also seen courts order children to live with abusive mothers who prevent them from having any contact with their father, even when the mother's violence or drug use is well d…
/r/MensRights29/01/26 08:17 PM
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This is something that really annoys me.. Many feminists will nit-pick stats when it comes to showing male oppression / suffering, in this case homelessness claiming that the stats are "Biased" Yet they never seem to apply the same standard to statistics which support their narrative. A classic example here being Rape and Domestic Violence statistics. Or even when they use statistics to exclaim how its "Men" committing the majority of crime.. There is zero nuance or examination of bias when it c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/26 08:16 PM
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She made a lot of good points earlier in the video. Part of making the world a better place is by being a better person, and a lot of men sassily refuse to forfeit certain privileges at the expense of women/others. Please.. feel free to expand upon this and provide examples of these "Privileges" you think men have and are unwilling to give up.. I doubt their existence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/26 09:18 PM
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I'm so tired of this sub. Some men can still creatively post about how men are losing their rights, but most of the men that are younger... and you can tell who they are, just cry. When men acted like men, this wasn't accelerated like it is now. Cool, feel free to fuck off somewhere else buddy No body is forcing you to stay here..
/r/MensRights23/01/26 04:01 AM
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So.. if a country is ruled by a dictator.. whom the citizens had no choice over.. Are THEY responsible for the actions of the dictator? That's how democracy works. Your vote has power because you need to accept the power of the vote of your neighbour. You cannot wash your hands of the system because the result doesn't suit you. I disagree with your reductionist argument... For example if we look at what's happening in the USA right now... I wouldn't blame those who didn't vote for Trump for what…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 06:08 PM
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Yes and no.. If I vote for one party in my election and that party does not win and another party who I did not want running the country ends up winning and making stupid decisions.. Am I responsible for what they have done when I never voted for them in the first place?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 08:57 AM
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Ah yes.. YOU don't remember anyone caring so therefore its a non-issue and we are all just being dramatic right? Your lack of empathy for boys being mutilated without their consent is very telling..
/r/MensRights22/01/26 08:53 AM
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If its such a "non-issue" then surely it should be okay to allow boys to make the decision for themselves right when they are old enough to understand the procedure and consent to it? But no.. they never get the choice.. they have healthy tissue removed from their bodies based on barbaric and outdated cultural norms and so the foreskins can be sold to beauty companies to make skin cream. All without the parents or the child's consent as its considered "Donating" the skin even though companies ma…
/r/MensRights22/01/26 08:52 AM
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So to answer the question, if you see it at mass scale- when women become physically violent, there's almost always little to no physical harm done. Versus when a man gets violent with a woman, the physical harm tends to be much greater. I've seen men who were completely messed up by a woman taking her finger nails to his face.. Also.. the "Size" and "Strength" factors tend to disappear when a woman arms herself with a weapon.. I've also seen many men messed up after a woman took a metal bat to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/26 08:20 AM
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Well.. thanks to the Duluth Model which was conceived, published and peddled by feminists.. A model which assumes that in all cases of DV involving a man and a woman the man is always the aggressor / abuser.. Then it's no surprise that men are the majority of arrests.. After all, men can't be "Victims" if the system has decreed that they can only be "Abusers"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/26 08:13 AM
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Simple solution.. Given the sentencing gap between men and women.. what ever sentence the judge gives to a woman, increase it by 63% and then she would get what a man would get..
/r/MensRights21/01/26 08:10 AM
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I get where you are coming from here.. But I think you are ignoring the fact that in feminist nomenclature "Toxic Masculinity" is pretty much used to define anything a man says or does that a woman disagrees with or is offended by. Also, in regards to gender roles, I agree they should be absolved.. but what it feels like in today's world is women are being liberated from "Gender Roles" where as we as men are still expected to uphold / be held to gender roles which are beneficial to women (Provid…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 06:12 AM
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My understanding is that the denouncing of it comes from its feminist origins. But aren’t the core the concepts still relevant? Specifically the way that different aspects of a person’s identity interact with one another and can compound. That said, I’m assuming I’m not understanding the negative impacts it has on men if (from the posts I’ve seen so far) it’s denounced on the same level as other feminist frameworks. If that were the way it was applied / used then sure. But sadly, when it comes t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 08:49 PM
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How is that relevant? My point is that your "logic" is that if someone has done or is accused of doing something horrible its okay to body same them over it. Now I am in no way shape or form saying the ICE agent is innocent here but its not like the person being body shamed actually pulled the trigger is it? So once again I ask.. is it logically acceptable for us to body shame ANYONE based on the things they have done or even are alleged to have done? Or is it only okay to do this against people…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 01:15 AM
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What they are implying is, unless a men's right's group is set up under feminist principles like accepting that we live in a "Patriarchy" and that misogyny is prevalent etc.. then they will never see the movement as legitimate in their eyes. We are only allowed to discuss the issues we as men face as long as its through the "lens of feminism" which in turn requires us to accept feminist "theory" and dogma as 100% accurate and beyond reproach. And because most Men's Rights spaces reject the conce…
/r/MensRights18/01/26 06:28 PM
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There sure seems to be a lot of ego stroking on their side of things. The premise falls apart at the very beginning with the whole "Obviously men suffer substantially less under the patriarchy" Then they go on about how feminism should focus on women's issues and men should sort out men's issues "The problem is just, that every time a movement like that gets created, its basically instantly overrun by the righ and sexists" This is because, anyone who disagrees with them or the "lens of feminism"…
/r/MensRights18/01/26 06:31 AM
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100% this.. More and more men are checking out and are saying the juice is no longer worth the squeeze.. I've had the message of "Men, Leave women alone!' bombard me since I was in my mid teenage years.. So I listened and gave them what they wanted..
/r/MensRights18/01/26 02:12 AM
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And me pointing out the SPECIFIC examples of women weaponizing male emotions is NOT me "Blaming all women" Yet, that's how you seemed to take it..
/r/MensRights17/01/26 09:07 PM
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Okay then.. when YOU do something wrong then I guess we're allowed to body shame you.. And you'd be perfectly okay with that right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 08:45 PM
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Okay then.. based on your "Logic" it would be acceptable for us to body shame Lucy Lethby who murdered many infant children right? Or are we only allow to body shame those you don't agree with? The problem is, if you can justify body shaming based on one thing.. then it can be justified or even normalized down the line.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 07:56 PM
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The problem here is.. if men manage to achieve the "minimum" they simply raise the bar on what the "minimum" is. And of course men are not allowed to have any sort of minimum standard for women..
/r/MensRights17/01/26 06:55 PM
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So.. when a bunch of men got together, put in the effort and created "Men's Sheds" which was a safe space for men.. what happened? Women got jealous / wanted to control men and so invaded the space they had created for themselves forcing men to allow women into their safe space. Women claimed they wanted to learn the same skills men in these sheds were learning.. but rather than start their own "Women's Sheds" they simply decided to take over the established group thus not having to put in the e…
/r/MensRights17/01/26 06:52 PM
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I'm not at all saying "Women are responsible" But you are doing the same thing by trying to pin the blame exclusively on men. As a society we need to do better.. Men are also the problem here as they are likely to question the masculinity or 'manhood' of a man who gets too emotional or opens up.. I have literally read articles written by women about how their partner opening up gave them the "ick" If i'm a man and I read something like that.. do you think its going to encourage me to want to ope…
/r/MensRights17/01/26 06:46 PM
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And who are the ones writing articles of "My partner opened up emotionally to me and now I have the 'Ick'"? Or who are the ones who take what they learn from men who open up and then weaponize it against them down the line? Because its not "Other Men" doing that..
/r/MensRights17/01/26 04:52 AM
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You are only blaming women when in reality it is more often that women are supportive of males than themselves. if you really cared about this topic you would acknowledge this and take action..but clearly you are only self interested and fueled with hatred... The same argument could be made of feminists no? Men are constantly blamed for EVERYTHING yet at the end of the day its literally less than 1% of men who are raping women or inflicting violence upon women. Yet that doesn't stop them from sl…
/r/MensRights17/01/26 04:51 AM
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There's the Sara Jane Parkinson case from Australia: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-17/canberra-woman-jailed-for-false-rape-claim/10723908 She fabricated lies of rape and domestic violence against her partner He was arrested and thrown into a maximum security prison in Australia for months While he was in prison (Falsely) she had her lover, a police officer at the station she worked at move in with her. And once she had her ex-partner in prison.. she went after his father claiming he tried …
/r/MensRights15/01/26 10:34 AM
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Yep.. Men are opting out, not dating, not pursuing women and the birth rates are going down.. We are heading for a massive societal collapse and I dare say nothings going to change until that actually happens. Just look at the insanely one sided situation that is "Marriage" In all aspects of marriage women win.. And divorce courts a setup to favor women at every step.. In today's society dating feels like walking into a casino and betting half you assets, savings and pension / retirement on "Red…
/r/MensRights15/01/26 10:17 AM
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I did read your post, but I want to ask you again. Do men and women have different experiences in life? Do men and women live different realities? Are they affected in different ways? Some more, some less? Then guess what, it's an intersectional view. I agree that men and women have different experiences.. However in my experience (pun intended) "Intersectionality" has been weaponized against me time and time again.. When a feminist discusses intersectionality they seem to stop once they reach t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 09:07 AM
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That's a pretty accurate summary on the issue with intersectionality. To add onto that I would say the problem comes down to it being a used to tally "Victim" points and assign someone a level of "Oppression" or "Privilege" based on their point score. Often by inflating the negative axis of intersectionality for women / other minorities and exaggerating the positive / privilege axis of intersectionality for men In most cases i've seen "Intersectionality" boil down to: If you are - Cis - White - …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 08:47 AM
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It COMPLETELY failed.. It claimed about "Holding sexual predators accountable" but when one of their own, one of the leaders of the movement Asia Argento got #MeToo'd what happened? The sisterhood circled the wagons and called for calm, restraint and to "Wait for evidence before jumping to conclusions" But when it was a man who was accused? There was no "Hey, lets not jump the gun and wait for evidence" The moment a man was accused he was deemed guilty as charged and it was time to grab the torc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/26 08:22 PM
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Well someone is a Fragile, Misogynistic, Neck Bearded, Incel, Looser who still lives in their parents basement! /S But yeah... it does feel like they pile on the insults don't they?
/r/MensRights14/01/26 04:29 AM
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The minority find / recruit more people who agree with them until they have the numbers to overthrow the majority.. Is that not essentially how revolutions happen? The minority (usually the repressed / oppressed) gather together and overthrow the ruler. The minority could also still speak loud enough that the majority can not silence them.. If I actively saw even a minority of feminists openly calling out misandry within the movement it would be a start. But sadly it seems like most of them don'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 06:08 AM
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[Part two] As such those terms are used exclusively to shame men despite the fact that many women are guilty of the same thing So when many feminists started using "Toxic Masculinity" for many of us men we simply saw it as yet another attack against men. And it was used exactly in that way. In summary I think there is a high level of fatigue for us as men when it comes to feminism because it feels like all see or hear coming out of the feminist spaces is new gendered / weaponized terms used to b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 06:01 AM
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Given how this is the first time I feel like a feminist has actually engaged in good faith on a topic I feel the need to restrain myself and to try and keep my thoughts and discussion logically based rather than emotively based because that's how your discussion has been, intellectually and logically based rather than appealing to emotions and for that I also thank you. I'll also point out that while I do have tertiary qualifications its in I.T and not anything remotely related to social science…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 05:58 AM
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So.. I have a question here.. How do you go about identifying someone as a "Feminist" vs a "Radical Feminist" Do they wear labels? are they required to show you the membership card of which faction of feminism they follow? I just think there can be a feminism that truly understands both men and women and that there ARE feminists who espouse that idea. Then those feminists are clearly the silent minority of feminists right? What's stopping those feminists from rising up, taking over the movement …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 05:23 AM
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First, i'll acknowledge that as far as interactions go you are one of the very few feminists who seems to want to engage and not simply defend the faith which is refreshing to say the least. In feminist literature concepts like toxic masculinity are usually meant as sociological tools. They are explanatory lenses used to describe structural patterns, power dynamics and social norms, I think one of my main issues is the idea that feminists (whom i'm sure we will agree the majority are women) are …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 08:46 PM
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That’s why I think the real challenge isn’t finding perfectly mirrored terms, but being clearer about what each concept is meant to explain and at which level (structural or affective) it’s being used. Otherwise we keep cycling through new vocabulary while reproducing the same misunderstandings. Instead of "Toxic Masculinity" and "Internalized Misogyny" we could just call both "Toxic Gender Norms" or "Toxic Gender Roles" That keeps it gender neutral and allows for discussions on how gender roles…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 06:35 PM
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