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DebateThrowAway47384729923/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 05:29 PM
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-5

I don’t take them seriously either.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 07:01 PM
-19

So because you were an angry, bitter little bitch that means all of RP is bad? lol
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 06:45 PM
2

It’s unrealistic.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 04:41 PM
1

Why is it problem that it appeals to young men? Because again everyone has outright accepted that RP/MGTOW is bad. If RP/MGTOW is so terrible, why are we not asking ourself “WHY does this appeal to young men?” And trying to understand them as opposed to judging them? That right there is what drives guys further into it: the fact that not only do we refuse to try to understand the why, it’s also that we don’t really care about the why, we just care about bashing and embarrassing these people beca…
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 02:30 AM
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Check out this post… https://www.reddit.com/r/instantkarma/comments/j2vma0/guy_gets_cheated_on_so_he_removed_his_exs_floor/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf This is why RP/MGTOW exists. I think that objectively speaking, almost anyone would see this and agree that this person is a mess. A lot of men of have with women like this, who cheat and play the victim and when confronted, have the gall to say something like “that’s why I cheated” because “I needed a man not a boy”. The …
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 02:15 AM
1

r/menslib is a feminazi-ran sub, not a sub for men. I don’t say it’s not for men because it’s ran by feminazis, but rather because feminazis have taken it upon themselves to decide what views men are allowed to have and what views are allowed to be expressed. R/menslib has the same problem exredpill does. It only allows for views that are negatively critical of RP/MGTOW. I use to participate in that sub until I posted something that was critical of feminism and was banned by a female, feminist m…
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 01:55 AM
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Thank you for accepting that my experience was different. That is important but it’s important for folks like myself to say thank you when we’re given the opportunity to present a different point of view. I don’t disagree with you at all. It can mess with you if you aren’t ready to move on in a positive way. Like I said, if you’re angry and bitter (and many guys do start off that way) then RP will amplify that. But if you’re a reasonable guy, and accept that we’re all flawed human beings and tha…
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 01:32 AM
-1

Nah. Why would I be triggered? I don’t get triggered by the stupid things 19 year olds say because I was 19 before too and I know that at that age you think you know everything.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 01:19 AM
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I actually heard about Blue Pull first before Red Pill. I believe I first heard about both while I was reading about depression and suicide. RP/MGTOW started off as an idea that a lot of men’s suffering comes from societal expectation that are reinforced upon us by society, governments, women and even other men. It was interestingly reminiscent of the buddhist idea that suffering comes from wanting things. Except that in the case of men, we’ve been told to want those things. If you look at some …
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 01:07 AM
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You have no idea what you’re talking about either. What you and everyone else seems to fail to realize is that RP is whatever you bring to it. If you’re a toxic male, then you’ll bring toxicity to your interpretation of RP. No one can define in any absolute terms what RP is because it means different things to different people. I know that for me, I definitely helped. It’s too bad that most people are too lazy to think and talk people with different perspective on the matter so they can see that…
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 12:55 AM
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What a thoughtful and reasoned counter. /s No. RP Has significantly improved my life. It’s too bad that most of you are too brainwashed to realize that no ideology is perfect and that what you’re fed regarding RP Is geared at misrepresenting the fact that there’s a lot more to explore within RP. But of course it’s easier to be intellectually lazy and just dismiss it all.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 12:27 AM
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“Because they don’t have life experiences except school and computer.” And he knows that how? This is just conjecture based on the fact that it’s trendy to shit on anything RP because it is assumed that it’s all just misogyny, hate, etc. Look, I get it. This sub is for shitting on RP, but this 19 year old doesn’t have enough life experience to speak on anyone else’s lack of life experience and that’s the lowest of critiques. I’m open to listening to thoughtful and reasoned critiques of RP. This …
/r/ExRedPill24/10/20 11:58 PM
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You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about, but that’s common on this sub. The people I’ve spoken to are RP BECAUSE of their life experiences. You’re 19. What life experience do you have? It’s silly to think that because you don’t agree with RP that it stems from “not experiencing life”.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/20 11:35 PM
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Separate but equal doesn’t work.
/r/MensRights24/10/20 03:49 PM
5

I’ve done surprisingly well during Covid. I had Covid right after I was furloughed from my job earlier in the year during shutdown, but I got severance pay, 2 weeks of pay, got all my PTO and sick days paid out, was able to withdraw from my 401k penalty free under the CARES act, AND I was able to find a new job literally the next week after losing my other job. Been very fortunate.
/r/MGTOW224/10/20 07:47 AM
5

That’s not even funny anymore. Now you’re just harassing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 06:53 AM
50

Actual dead men…women most affected. And quite literally on the graves of dead men. Disgusting.
/r/MensRights24/10/20 05:22 AM
44

Helping men is not allowed in 2020.
/r/MensRights24/10/20 05:12 AM
1

I agree completely. By the way, if you look at the numbers, it says the the total % of women who lied down was greater than the % of men who lied BOTH up AND down combined! That’s damning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 02:11 AM
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And I’m a “I’ve been falsely accused of sexual harassment” kind of cunt lol :) I’m not kidding by the way. I really was falsely accused at my old job for what I found out later was an insanely petty reason. Anyway, most guys are like this. Believe it or not, we actually don’t like and don’t want women to be harassed by men or anyone for that matter. I think we men sometimes overcompensate when expressing this because it’s very common for us to be accused of not caring. Thanks for sharing your pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 10:49 PM
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Yes, I agree with your assessment. If “you’re not attractive enough to speak to me” is the measure, I fear for the health of the relationship between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 09:52 PM
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lol…I appreciate your humor. It’s actually refreshing that we can talk and still joke around a bit. 😂 On a serious note though, the point is that my feelings shouldn’t be enough to justify legal consequences for certain behaviors that don’t reach the level of harassment, especially when whether or not something is “harassment” can be swayed by the attractiveness, age or race of the offender.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 09:34 PM
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I tend to want to agree that it’s not so black and white as far as how women interpret the harassment based on who the guy is. However, I think we need to accept that harassment is generally not enjoyable. This is a basic human fact not some gendered thing. On the other hand, women should be more honest about the fact that women’s feelings about a variety of things don’t always line up with their rhetoric. In summary, I don’t think it’s as black and white in either direction. Humans are far too …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 09:21 PM
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I completely understood what you meant. It’s funny how when people are too lazy to think, they make silly misrepresentations about what’s being said. Sexual harassment should always be deal with seriously. The study wasn’t even about that, but rather the way “harassment” is interpreted based on who is doing the harassing. I have no idea where the above transformed into “sexual harassment should be ignored”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 09:17 PM
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You saying you’re going to report me to the cops for trying to flirt with you while ugly makes me feel threatened. Are my subjective feelings of feeling threatened enough to punish you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 09:12 PM
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Whoa, whoa, whoa! C’mon now, you know that women’s feelings supersedes all facts and data.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 09:07 PM
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I have seen it as well. It does exist. I’m not debating that, but it’s not the be all end all of what MGTOW/RP people think. I also take issue with the word “obsession” to describe men caring about n-count because the purpose of that word choice is to frame the entire thing as unreasonable. This fits into a larger narrative that seeks to silence men in regard to criticisms we have about women. Is it an obsession? I’m sure for some it is, but women already don’t take those guys seriously, so I’m …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:18 PM
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It doesn’t matter. Women good, men bad. Always remember that.
/r/MensRights23/10/20 06:51 PM
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The fact that people are unsure is in itself an indication that the system is FUCKED, because while obviously the law says nothing about the sex of the offender, our societal attitudes about men do leak into and make their way into legal decisions making about cases.
/r/MensRights23/10/20 06:48 PM
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Because she’s a woman, duh! C’mon, we know that’s why.
/r/MensRights23/10/20 06:46 PM
1

Thinking like what? What exact belief are you asking me about? Also, be aware that even if I give you an answer, I’m really only speaking for myself. There maybe be MGTOW/RP people who don’t agree. That’s kind of my point. Sure there will be some overlap and overarching themes, but that’s the case for almost any ideological space.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:43 PM
1

I want to clarify a few things. • A high n-count by itself doesn’t mean a woman is trash. • We’re all entitled to our opinions. If someone thinks a high n-count makes a woman trash, that’s their opinion. I don’t agree with it if the n-count is the ONLY factor that was considered. • Some high n-count women are trash and not always exclusively because of the high n-count. It may be a contributing factor. • It’s not “obsession” to worry about the risk of your gf or wive cheating on you especially w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:40 PM
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I mean, yeah… you can be upset at the data but it is what it is. Also, you’re way too focused on “the number” when the real issue for men is what that number means or what tells us about the person and the risk involved with dealing with them. It’s not uncommon for people to take these things personally, which is why I think you’re using yourself as an example of how “it’s not true”. We men do the same thing when women talk about “how men are”. We are constantly having to remind women that men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:18 PM
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It does affect your partner though. That’s the whole point of the study with all the stats and data. It’s not so much the “who” (although that matter too), but how many. It affects a woman’s probability of cheating and therefore OBVIOUSLY that affects your partner’s risk of being cheated on and, for some people and in some cases, it affects their ability to trust you. Just because you don’t like the consequences doesn’t mean there aren’t any. Whoring around will never be consequence free.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:12 PM
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You are correct, it means different things for different people. That’s why people who say it’s just a bunch of misogynists complaining they can get laid is about the most intellectually lazy analysis on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:55 PM
1

Those individuals only represent themselves. Start talking to more people and you’ll find we don’t all think the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:47 PM
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The problem is that men who don’t care about female history aren’t controversial, only the men who care are controversial. Most men are somewhere in the middle. I would consider myself as the kind of MGTOW/RP that doesn’t commit to LTR/STR or marriage, but still dates occasionally and I’m in the gray. I personally don’t want a virgin and I don’t see why so many men idealize virgins. I don’t mind if she has had sex before but the n-count and the rate at which that number was racked up matters to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:45 PM
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lmao @ “Sex positive” I get that the world use to be much more conservative and restrictive when it comes to sexuality and that because of that there was a need to reframe sexuality in a more positive and less shameful light, BUT… And here is the important part: that doesn’t mean you can whore around and that there isn’t going to be any consequence. The only thing “sex positive” thinking did is convince YOU not to be ashamed of sleeping around and racking up a high n-count. The purpose of being …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:35 PM
1

They’re trying reeeeeeeeeally hard to force this nonsense narrative that a woman’s n-count doesn’t matter, but we have facts and data on our side to show infidelity increases with n-count. What do they have? Hurt feelings and annoyance with the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:27 PM
1

And you’re quite the hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:25 PM
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Nah. A lie is not equivalent to another lie just because both are lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:24 PM
2

That would be correct, lying down is worse than lying up, at minimum for health and STD reasons, but as usual people like to pretend there’s equivalency with nonsense arguments like “a lie is a lie”. I’m sorry but if you’re a woman and you whored around all your 20s and racked up 200 men and lie and say it’s only 100, that is NOT the same as a man saying he slept with 100 when it’s only really 50, which by the way 50 is high for most men unless of course he’s insanely attractive and/or are rich …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:23 PM
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Men lie to increase the count and women lie to bring it down. Men lie to bring their numbers up because: 1) This is one way that men compete with each other, but more importantly because… 2) Women judge men and their sexual utility to women by how many other women he’s slept with. As one woman in another sub put it, “it’s the ultimate co-sign”. If you go to any sub where men and women discuss sex and relationships, you’ll see that one of the most common ways women attack men is by calling them “…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:17 PM
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Women will never accept that being a slut has consequences. This is why they contort themselves to force the kind of social change that would allow for this opinion (that you can be a slut and it will have no affect on your ability to commit) to become mainstream. Sorry ladies, that will NEVER happen. No amount of feminists indoctrination will make men not care about your n-count. They want to social benefits of being a slut while trying to avoid the negative that comes with that. Different men …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:07 PM
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Most woman don’t see why it matters because it forces them to look inward and accept that actions have consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:58 PM
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GYOW doesn’t mean you never interact with women. You can still pump and dump, have friendships, etc. you just don’t commit and no marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:56 PM
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Did you even read the lengthy comment posted above? Confirmation bias? How? Even then, confirmation bias literally means that there are examples that confirm the “bias”. Logically if men have a “bias” against high n-count women because of what we know from experience but also what these studies say, how is that a bias? It’s just observable pattern of behavior backed by data. But let’s say it’s true, men do have a bias against high n-count women. SO WHAT? No one, including men, want to be cheated…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:48 PM
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During which they’ll cheat and bump that n count up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:15 AM
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What do you not understand? There is a POSITIVE correlation between promiscuity/high n count and infidelity & hypergamy. Relationships with women who are promiscuous/have high n count are higher risk for men. It’s really not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:07 AM
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There are far too many men who do see gradations for this statement to be accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 11:55 PM
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Although poorly expressed, I think I understand what they’re trying to say. It sounds like women are resolute in their views about certain issues and if you disagree it feels like you’re attacking her as a person rather than the issue at hand. Edit: I love how all I did was try to better phrase the comment and people got butt hurt apparently.
/r/ExRedPill22/10/20 11:38 PM
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“Marriage is a bad deal for men who are bad deals.” Well that wasn’t a predictable response at all. /s Yeah, we know…it’s always the man’s fault. We’re just so absolutely terrible people and when fucked up shit happens it’s because we’re a “bad deal”. Tell that to my best friend, who by almost any standard is a good fucking man. Never been in trouble, doesn’t have a criminal record, college educated guy. Works his ass off, will do literally ANYTHING for his 2 kids (one boy and one girl), has lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 05:06 PM
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Good! You should definitely be independent. Not only is it attractive, but you also won’t be at the mercy of a potentially toxic man who uses your reliance on him to abuse you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 04:56 PM
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No, I didn’t mean that. If I had intended to say that, I would have simply said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 04:06 PM
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I actually don’t disagree with you at all. Women SHOULD earn their own money. I don’t get why having a slave-wife is appealing to any man. To me the very idea is just gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 04:03 PM
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Marriage IS a bad deal for men and women have a callous indifference to that, just like you’re demonstrating here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 03:41 PM
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So basically a sugar daddy that buys you a lot of material possessions. Cool. Edit: I LOOOOOOVE that this triggered a bunch of you. Keep it coming. Truth hurts and this makes it entirely evident.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 03:39 PM
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Fuck this bitch. I don’t know where she’s from, but in the US, we still have something called civil rights and the presumption of innocence, and thank goodness that we still do (for now), because if it was up to this feminazi bitch, men would be in prison. Every man needs to be aware that this is what they’re (feminazis) doing to normalize the idea of jailing men based on an accusation alone. When you pair this with drum beat of “believe women” we start to see the full scope of this campaign to …
/r/MensRights22/10/20 12:17 PM
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Not just pill subs, that shit is everywhere. There is a societal wide effort to shield women and feminists from any and all criticism. That’s why I tell men: Guys, if we want to be taken seriously, we need to make sure our arguments are solid and we have facts to back it up. Of course any and all criticism of women and feminists will be framed as misogyny no matter what we say, but it’s easier to expose that if we remain disciplined.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 12:09 PM
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That has NOTHING to do with the idiotic notion of “the one”.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/20 11:09 PM
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You’re an actual moron if you actually believe that shit.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/20 10:33 PM
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Women lie about sleeping around. Shocker. Why is this surprising to anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 08:02 PM
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There is no such thing as “the right one”.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/20 03:48 PM
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I slightly disagree with the last part. Women ARE nice (sometimes) but usually it’s because they don’t want to come off an unpleasant, not because they’re actually nice. It’s similar to how “nice guys” aren’t actually nice because they’re nice but because there’s an ulterior motive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 03:39 PM
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It’s a waste of time.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/20 03:35 PM
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“As I have learned men view women who actively pursue as LV.” That applies only to the men who expressed that view, not “men” in general. Do you really think that men, who are the ones society expects to approach, knowing how difficult it can be to even work up the courage to do it, knowing there’s 99% chance you’ll be rejected, would view women that way merely for approaching us? Most men don’t view women as LV merely for approaching and the ones who do are probably toxic anyway, and you should…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 03:34 PM
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I don’t know why you’re even signifying this person why a response. I’ve seen a few stories where the woman asks how she can get a guy to notice her even though she’s already being fun, friendly, etc. Men are told not to read too much into their interactions with women or to assume anything, and that most of the time women are just being nice. It’s best for both men and women for men to take this at face value and just not assume a woman likes you because she’s being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 03:12 PM
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99% she’s not interested and just being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 03:08 PM
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That explains a lot. FDS is a cesspool of bitter, angry, women. It’s the female version of incel subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 02:24 PM
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And yet when men say we don’t care about make up, we’re told “we do it for ourselves, not men!” Well, then you don’t get to use that against us if you’re doing it for you. I’ve dated and hooked up with many pretty girls who despite their looks, left me bored and unsatisfied. Why? Because looks aren’t everything and women would be wise to start realizing that men care about much more than your looks.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 01:09 AM
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I noticed that too. Typical bluepill cuckery.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 09:42 PM
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Irrelevant but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:17 PM
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“Indoctrinate young people into your hate?” You can keep using the word “hate” if it makes you feel like you understand what you’re talking about, but you’re still wrong. You haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about. And as much as you keep mentioning my age, I’m surprised someone as old as you isn’t wiser. “You foster those beliefs in young minds because you can’t be happy no one should have joy.” Those = the believes YOU want to pigeonhole MGTOW/RP with, because you’re too fucking lazy to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:01 PM
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Are your feelings going to be ok? 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:45 PM
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Not All Women Are Like That
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:44 PM
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I agree. But I believe it’s important to highlight how many women enjoyed it because these issues are often ONLY framed as men oppressing women through a variety of channels including sex and relationships. If we are going to try to “re-educate” (so to speak) men to reject the romanticization of abuse, then women need to hear that too. I simply reject the idea that the issues between men and women are EXCLUSIVELY the fault of men. Women need to be held accountable for their role in perpetuating …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:14 AM
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Just for clarity, I wasn’t contesting any of that. I wasn’t contesting that men have the physically ability to violently harm and even kill women. But when it does happen, men are generally arrested and charged. That’s not always the case with women so they effectively get to get away with being violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:02 AM
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And female audiences enjoyed it. That doesn’t mean I’m denied it was romanticized, clearly it was, and women played a role in creating the demand for that kind of content. That’s all I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 02:22 AM
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Men “come off”? What does that even mean? Men are arrested more because they’re committing more crime. The amount of crime by women that would have to go without prosecutions to explain the disparity in arrests would have to be massive, and that’s just not the case. And actually you are completely incorrect about how the crime rate is determined. It is generally determined by successful prosecutions for specific offenses, not arrests. There are stats on arrests, but they don’t represent what you…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 02:01 AM
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And? What’s your point exactly? That’s dehumanizing and not kind. I wouldn’t call my wife that, but I also understand what analogies are. I’m not sure why I’m expected to speak for that or defend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 01:40 AM
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Most single women, especially perpetually single women, are trash though. The good ones are typically in stable relationships. The trash ones circulate the dating pool over and over since no one can tolerate them for long. Often, they learn from experience how to masquerade as a decent woman for a while but since it’s not who they are you can’t keep it up for long. I’m not going to do the entire thing, but you get the point…as evident by your acknowledgement. And yet that very realizations that …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 12:27 AM
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Ahhh yes…keep the hate coming Mr. Altruistic-I-Just-Want-To-Help-Young-Men. It was surprisingly easy to coax you out of your bullshit façade. Thanks for making it easy, edge lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:26 PM
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You’re wrong, my man. The stats show men commit more crimes. Believe me, I wish it wasn’t true, but it is bro. FBI data on crime rate by sex of the offender. I’m not saying that there isn’t a lot that women get away with, I’m just saying that it’s not an absolute in either direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:24 PM
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This is a thing men hear as well though. “If she’s mean to you, she likes you.” So AGAIN, you’re making this a gendered thing when women do this shit as well and men have to deal with it too. If she gets jealous, it’s because she cares. If she hits you, it’s out of fear that you’re not paying attention so she needs to find a way to get your attention. If she yells at you, it’s because she’s passionate about what she’s saying. And one of my favorites… If she cheats on you, it’s because she didn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:19 PM
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Appreciate your thoughtful input and perspective. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:07 PM
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Hold up… I actually studied criminal justice in college and have studied constitutional law as well. Men are charged more OFTEN (frequency) because men commit more crime. So if your issue is with frequency, that can be partially resolved if men stop committing so much crimes. On the flip side, you are correct about the severity of the punishment for same crimes. That’s one of the things that is 100% valid criticism. As far as MeToo goes, I have been falsely accused so I have a biased opinion on …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:02 PM
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Here’s how “progressive” India is… https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/13/india/tanishq-jewelry-commercial-india-scli-intl/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=fbCNN&utm_content=2020-10-18T21%3A30%3A28&utm_term=link&fbclid=IwAR0k_W9iLHKtPv7X0fuko_uNqXJXXhvN1WvaiohFsyqcY_CQCMsKYQ_JaO8 It’s hardly a good example of what healthy relationships should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 10:57 PM
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What actions are we talking about exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 10:49 PM
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Yawn For someone who is trying really hard to portray themselves as someone who “just wants to help young men” you sure have a funny way of showing it. I’m not sold on your little sob story about losing your brother to “self-pity” and “hate” when your conduct clearly shows you rather make snide remarks that any reasonable person would realize is just gaslight and pushing someone further into toxicity. If your brother was one of these guys, would you have said something that objectively ignorant …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 10:44 PM
0

I’m literally telling you, as someone whose been IN that community, that there’s much more to explore and discuss but you WANT to and are CHOOSING to only focus on the negative. I don’t understand why you’re so locked into ONLY seeing that? This is why feminism is criticized in MGTOW/RP because as I said before EVERYTHING is about how men are the problem with ZERO focus on how women play a role in all this. My definition of generalizations is the act of attributing thoughts/believes or actions o…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 09:54 PM
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I’m done here. This is pointless. You continue to complain about the generalizations MGTOW/RP makes while LITERALLY generalizing MGTOW/RP yourself. I’m not trying to paint men as innocent victims in society, I’ve only argued that men have valid reasons to complain about women and that as long as women get to openly complain about us (and in similar generalizing manner that you can’t bring yourself to call out but are more than happy to call out for men), men have every right to do the same while…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 09:14 PM
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Hypergamy is not about looks though, it’s about status and resources. I’ve noticed a significant increase in posts by women claiming hypergamy is not a female trait and that men do it too. For starters, I don’t believe hypergamy is innately female because OBVIOUSLY a man can choose to leave his wife for a woman of higher status and resources, but this is often not a motivating factor for men and more importantly, while not innate to being female, it is very much more prevalent among women than m…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 08:26 PM
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No one is calling you stupid. I definitely didn’t. Again, your letting your anger take over how you see things. Pointing out the women chose toxic men doesn’t mean they’re stupid, wtf? It just means she chose a shit guy. Sometimes that’s caused by prior trauma or deep seeded issues that have no been resolved. In regard to India, it’s a shit show over there right now, and there are many variables that contribute to it, one of which is religion and conservative views on relationship. That’s not an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:10 PM
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Lol…what do you gain from coming up with an arbitrary percentage of how often it is men that are the problem? This is 100% an ego thing for you, and it’s very obvious. I literally grant you the point (because you are correct) that men are indeed part of the problem, and that wasn’t good enough. It’s not enough to say yes were part of the problem, you want men to take all of not most of the blame. Your Princess complex is truly hindering your growth in the same way men who are arrogant enough to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:02 PM
0

You don’t have to like or agree with the point for it to be valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:57 PM
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No we’re not “the” problem, but we are indeed part of the problem. That’s my view and has been my view because I myself have had to work on myself to become a better man in general, but also to set myself up to be a better potential partner. I’m not ashamed of that so I have very little reason to try to excuse the behavior of toxic men. It’s funny how you reply as if I’m making excuses for men who are objectively shit human beings when really what’s happening is men telling you that woman can be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:55 PM
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I care VERY little that you’re annoyed by an example that proved the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:48 PM
2

Married life = “the rest of her boring life” to these types. This is all men need to know about how women feel about marriage. That’s all men need to know to avoid marriage like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:47 PM
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He lied to you. Men lie, remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:44 PM
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Yes, I understand that. I don’t disagree generally. I was just challenging what seems to be an assertion that men are always held accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:40 PM
1

The ones who got over their anger do seek therapy (I know of 4 guys who did go to therapy to help overcome this toxic mentality) while also recognizing that society does play a role in all this. Its not an either or thing. Its not that different than women who have to let go of toxic selection habits (and working on themselves in general) while also navigating the struggles that are unique to women in the dating world. The difference is women are given the benefit of the doubt (in relation to fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:36 PM
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I respectfully disagree and have to slightly push back on this. Men are not always held accountable for being abusive. This is true for women as well though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:29 PM
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That’s hilarious considering 50 Shades of gray was a huge hit with WOMEN. But sure, continue with your Princess complex and refusal to take any responsibility for your choices. 🐸☕️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:28 PM
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I can smell her dryness. Musty. Ugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:25 PM
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That’s EXACTLY what’s going on here. She can’t handle the fact that she chose trash because that would be taking responsibility for those choices. We can’t have that. All blame MUST always be placed on men. lmao! I bet she thinks she’s a catch too, despite the very obvious emotional baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:24 PM
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Oh c’mon man! Don’t you know men are ALWAYS trash and women never choose poorly? You see how it always goes back to men being trash and there’s never any accountability for women making poor choices? But let the sexes be reversed, and women are more than happy to tell men we are making poor choices in women. Women good, men bad. Always remember that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:21 PM
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So basically you’re old and still an immature child who has done so much in life and yet you still need to supplement your awesome life by attacking compete strangers on the internet? That’s not an accomplishment, sir. Lmao! The question remains: Do you feel better about yourself yet? I’m 33 and make plenty of money to live happily and comfortably in the DC metro area, one of the most expensive places to live in the US. I have a job I enjoy and pays well so it doesn’t feel like work. On my free …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:04 PM
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Aww. Do you feel better about yourself yet? I find your childish comments HILARIOUS considering this… Yikes! I’m sorry you felt so personally attacked by my comment. Your insecurities regarding reading and personal development have nothing to do with me. You own that. Luckily for me, I don’t derive my self-worth from being in a relationship or from ignorant people like you who have nothing intelligent to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:48 PM
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lol, are you ok? It’s entirely irrelevant. It’s called sarcasm. I get it’s easy to miss in text, but I literally marked it with the “/s”. But I’m the dimwit? No one asked you to prove if anyone agreed with you or not so you did that for no other reason than your ego lmfao 😂🤣 go have a seat somewhere until you calm down. 😂🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:11 AM
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Oh my! You have a whole ten votes? Well that’s just it then, isn’t it? /s what a joke… Reading books is not a personality trait. Reading is basic. Maybe work on your own intellectually development so you won’t feel personally attacked by a comment about something as unremarkable as reading 6 books. Are you going to be ok after reading that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:29 AM
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Check out this post… https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/jd211t/how_do_i_m21_survive_my_girlfriend_f19_leaving_me/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Hypergamy is very much a real thing and as you can see, it has severely damaging affects on the mental and emotional well being of men, and instead of helping men through that by acknowledging that hypergamy is real and that we cannot control it and must accept it we tell men to shut up and stop complaining and “wOrK oN YoUrSe…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 06:28 AM
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The fact that people are too lazy to invest in their own intellectual curiosity/development by reading doesn’t mean that ones who are doing it are doing something particularly special or unique. It is very much a basic thing to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:22 AM
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“It’s not what you said it’s how you said it.” There’s nothing remarkable about reading 6 books, so yes that is pretty basic. That’s not a commentary on ones own intelligence at all so I’m not sure why you’re pretending that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:19 AM
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He said absolutely nothing about smarts or intelligence. He simply said reading books isn’t a personality. It appears everyone understood what he was saying except you. YOU tried to make that about intelligence when really it was about elevating a relatively unremarkable thing, like reading books, into a personality, which is a meme because of how often it’s mentioned in bios. You’re projecting your own insecurities about intelligence on to others and otherwise intentionally misrepresenting what…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:15 AM
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It’s about as dull as nice guys who think “nice” is a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:09 AM
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I appreciate this. I don’t think people realize how humanizing it is for people to SIMPLY acknowledge that we aren’t the scum of the earth like everyone thinks we are. Many are just severely emotionally damaged by women and are having their wounds salted by a society that literally doesn’t give a fuck about how those things cause us emotional and mental health problems. I just wish society actually cared about men’s emotional and mental health as much as they care about women, instead of concern…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 06:07 AM
1

2/2 SO, if you are able to see how men have been drained, why then are we (meaning you, society, and perhaps others who see things with even less compassion for men) completely unable to accept that MGTOW/RP men see it too and have decided to check out of that system? Why is it always “you just hate wome”? Because some people within that community are garbage human beings and misogynists, that’s reason enough to dismiss everyone as the same? How is that any different than the generalizations fem…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 05:57 AM
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1/2 I chose the man spreading example because it perfectly highlights the hypocrisy of making a gendered attack out of a behavior that is not gendered at all. Saying it’s an annoyed joke doesn’t excuse that it’s deliberately antagonizing for no reason other than to piss off men by finding yet another thing we are terrible people for doing. It’s not the crime of the century obviously, it as I said it speaks to the kind of belligerent nonsense that feminists get away with. There are other gems lik…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 05:47 AM
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Respectfully, you’re still wrong about the philosophy. You’re taking the most disgusting and outrageous stuff and those who have chosen a path of toxicity (as opposed to a path of self-improvement and healing) as representative of the whole thing. This is precisely why some MGTOW/RP won’t sit down and talk in more depth like we are doing now; because everyone just outright generalizes MGTOW/RP while complaining that “we” generalize. Where does it stop? When do we accept that we are all individua…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 04:26 AM
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So I had no clue I typed as much as I did, so I had to split this into two… 1/2 Majority? How do you quantify that exactly? By how many misogynist rants we see on Reddit? We’re nearly 7 billion humans on the planet. How much do those toxic views actually represent men’s thinking? And why do those voices matter more than others? Because it’s easier to pigeonhole than it is to convince yourself that there is more to it. And by the way, I’m not accusing you personally, it’s a general statement abou…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 03:17 AM
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2/2 I think we essentially agree that there needs to be a re-education of sorts for men on the fact that “it doesn’t have to be that way” (meaning what masculinity is and how it’s expressed) but because of the damage already done, people need to realize it won’t be affective if it’s done while also incessantly bashing men for almost any thing they do (including silly things like position of legs in public transportation). Stuff like that just seems punitive and vindictive when you consider we’ve…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 03:00 AM
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Let me help you understand what’s going on here… Feminists/women: openly discuss men, men’s toxicity, men’s poor behavior, how men harm women, etc. - no one bats an eyelid. Society: Yeah! Fuck men! You need to learn to be better behaved. Men: we’re not all like that but ok. Feminists/women: We don’t care. There’s enough of you that are like that to warrant the criticism so STFU, listen and stop complaining. Men are trash. Kill all men. Men: You women do some of this stuff to us too. Feminist/Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 12:03 AM
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What are you even saying here? Like what’s your goal? To get me to abandon talking about hypergamy, how it harms men and how women are get away with it because there’s always people like you ready to tell use that we’re wrong about what we have experienced in real life? I’m not here to convince anyone that “such a wide group harbors that hypocrisy enough to be accountable”. I have zero interest in that. To use the argument feminists use against men, “there’s enough bad ones to warrant the critic…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 10:30 PM
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Oh, I get it…so your argument is that it doesn’t happen frequently enough for you to care, but more so, it doesn’t happen frequently enough for anyone to care. So since you don’t care, and you don’t think anyone else should care, what are men who are affected by this suppose to do then? Just shut up and sit down so as to not ruffle your feathers by talking about hypergamy? Why not just say you don’t care that men are harmed by hypergamy? That would be the most honest thing you could say to fully…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 10:09 PM
3

Calling out the hypocrisy of a group of people (in general - feminists/women) who are attempting to use a counter-argument (“you guys do it too”) when they themselves do not accept this counter-argument as a response to their criticisms about men, is 100% valid. Does it advance the discussion about hypergamy itself, not exactly, but it does provide a certain amount of accountability for the hypocrisy we see with feminists/women that often (if not always) goes unchallenged, partially because ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 08:01 PM
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“The reason all women are bad…” just so you know, I stopped taking your reply seriously after that line right there because I didn’t say anything even remotely close to that. But I’ll entertain your comment… I’m angry? lol…that isn’t a predictable straw-man at all. /s Why is it that any time men have something to say about women it’s framed as “anger”? Because it’s easy to dismiss someone if you can convince others that men are just being emotional. What you’re doing is NO DIFFERENT than when me…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 07:44 PM
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My argument isn’t hypocritical, it is clearly pointing out the hypocrisy of trying to make this a “both genders” thing when that answer is not acceptable to women when men say “women do that too”. If men don’t get to say “women do it too” in the face of criticism about men’s toxic behavior, then intellectual consistency would render that same argument invalid when women use it against men. That’s not me saying “it’s valid when we do it but not you”. It’s saying “if it’s invalid when we do it, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 06:48 PM
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“…I can assure you this topic rarely comes up.” Yes, I’m aware. If I was a feminist/woman, I too would avoid discussing hypergamy considering it is one of the few legit criticisms that can be made about women that is based on observable behavior but also rooted in at least some scientific basis. It’s uncomfortable to have to face criticisms about your sex/gender. Welcome to what it’s like to be a man and have to answer for all the fucked up shit other men do. The majority of people just don’t ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 06:45 PM
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But, but, but…but feminists said women don’t care about your money.
/r/MGTOW213/10/20 02:04 PM
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No point in trying to educate them on what hypergamy is. The fact they’re trying really hard to make it a both genders thing on its own is somewhat of an acknowledgement on their part that it is true that women are hypergamous, and not in the “looks” way that women want to pigeonhole men into. It’s funny because hypergamy is about status and resources, not looks, but they don’t care…they just want yet another thing they can bash men for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 12:46 PM
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Feminists/women are trying really hard to make hypergamy a “both genders” thing while feminist continue to lambast men for traits both genders have and things both genders do. It’s laughable. It’s especially laughable considering “both genders do it” is what men have been telling feminists regarding their complaints about men, but they weren’t trying to hear it, but we men are suppose to welcome this same argument being used against us? lol…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 12:42 PM
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Show me where I said that.
/r/MGTOW213/10/20 01:38 AM
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Next time a woman says she was raped, tell her to gain control over her anger and see how people react. Maybe then you’ll see why your reply is condescending.
/r/MGTOW213/10/20 01:25 AM
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You haven’t said a single insightful thing. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤣😂
/r/MGTOW212/10/20 09:10 PM
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lol @ the trend I’ve noticed recently of women trying to flip the tables on the hypergamy debate by saying trading up for looks is how men practice hypergamy, but women do it for that too, and for the original reason (resources, not looks).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 03:09 AM
1

That’s an interesting projection, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 12:21 AM
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Because FWB doesn’t grant her the kind of power, control and influence over him that an actual relationship does, and women don’t like that. Whether they admit it or not (they’re not going to) women control men with sex and with their bodies. As much as they complain about being sexualized and objectified, they know how to wield that power when it suits them, and they do. So they get sex (which isn’t special because women can get sex whenever they want), they get temporary attention, in exchange…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 12:20 AM
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“Radfem” doesn’t mean much to me. Who decides what’s radical and what’s not? Feminists say fucked up shit like “kill all men” and no one bats an eyelid, including those within the community. And equally ridiculous comment like that by men would be met with strong opposition, but say this about men and you’ll get nothing but giggles and chuckles from many of them. Not to mention that even the crazy ones don’t think they’re radical. The acceptability of misandrist within feminism is shocking to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:18 PM
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How often do you get called a misogynist for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:13 PM
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I think you’re failing to understand that when people share these things, they’re sharing it from their perspective. It’s crazy how many people simply do not understand this. That’s why straight women say “men are…” in generalizing terms — as straight women, their experiences are with men and therefore it should be expected that they’re talking from that point of view. The only difference is that when women say things like this, men are expected to just take it because they’re expected to know t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:09 PM
3

It 100% is projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:05 PM
1

One way is they don’t make ridiculous demands of them because they’re only in it for the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:03 PM
1

I think when express in those words, yes. That word choice is precisely the kind of opening we give folks to think it’s about power and control, which are generally viewed to be toxic. To me it’s a sign of poor communication, which men are known for. I think it’s commentary about how in recent years we’ve seen a shift in how we view the sexes and generally see women more empathetically and favorably, while men see the opposite. I think if it was worded better, it could open up a healthy conversa…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 09:54 PM
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We are kind of talking about the same thing. Tomassi did a better job explaining what RP is in the video than I could here via text, partially because very few people are actually interested in challenging the narrative that RP/MGTOW is just misogyny. Also, MGTOW means different things to different people and people can call themselves MGTOW and take different paths. What I mean is that some MGTOW are doing is to devolve into misogyny and toxic views while others will take a healthier approach a…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 08:40 PM
1

I think the general idea of examining double standards that harm men is a good thing. What I don’t agree with is the undisciplined and yes sometimes misogynistic manner in which these issues are discussed. Ultimately, it’s just not productive and doesn’t create a welcoming space where people who are actually interested personal grown can share their experiences, or where those who are not part of MGTOW can learn about it. We are often our own worst enemy in how the community is represented, and …
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 07:14 PM
1

There is some shared views and overlap between RP and MGTOW.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 05:41 PM
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Yeah, that stuff is fucking insane. I see that and I see someone who is traumatized so badly that they’re creating these narratives whose purpose is to provide a foundation for all sorts of crazy ideas about women. Also, a lot of this stuff is also trolling because they know people are going to go see that and say “see! They are crazy!”. I remember this guy said, “I don’t hate women, but they already think that I do, so why not have fun with them and rile them up”. It’s crazy, but I kinda unders…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 05:44 AM
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Lol…and that is not representative of the community as a whole. That’s kind of what I’ve been trying to say. This is like me saying “seat belt saves lives” and someone saying “oh look, here’s a case where the person died. Oh! Here’s another one where the person died. Look at this case here, they also died. I’ve seen a few other cases where the seat belt didn’t save a life” as if pointing out individual examples somehow invalidates that fact there are still RP/MGTOW conversations that aren’t toxi…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 05:30 AM
1

It does exist and even you believe it, but you clearly feel like arguing. The good thing about this is that demisexual exists regardless of whether you accept it or not.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 04:52 AM
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I think it would be wise to listen to someone who is actually in that world because I can tell you that you’re completely wrong when you say “everything MGTOW revolves around women”. “Hating then, being bitter about them, etc.” “All the top posts…have something to do with bitching about unfair standards regarding women.” “Bitching about trans people and gender studies.” “Bitching about female movie reboots.” “Complaining about feminist.” You are choosing to believe the absolute worst that comes …
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 04:41 AM
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Because you’re complaining about people calling themselves something that even you admitted is normal. Why are you like that?
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 04:18 AM
1

Are you going to be ok?
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 04:02 AM
1

Maybe because what you wrote is a dumpster fire of egotistical ignorance. Yeah, that might have something to do with it.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 03:52 AM
1

This is a classic “I don’t understand it, so I’m just going to slander it…because that’s easier” answer. “These categories are just annoying.” So that’s the real issue. You’re having a temper tantrum because you’re annoyed. User name checks out for sure.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 03:08 AM
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Yes, they are indeed part of the problem because they often create their own self-fulfilling prophecy, just like the women who sleep around with precisely that kind of guy and complain that men are trash. Well, yeah…what did you expect from a man who only wanted you for sex? It takes two to tango and while it’s easy to call out men for using women for sex (which is unequivocally not ok) there needs to be some accountability on the other side as well, and that means getting rid of this notion tha…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 02:41 AM
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It’s no different than promiscuous women who sleep around without a care who is affected by their actions. Identical actions and ideology, but it’s treated very differently because “women good, men bad”.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 01:59 AM
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For starters, please understand MGTOW is not a monolith. People who identify as MGTOW have a range of views on this topic. Surprisingly, most of us have no problem acknowledging that daughters must be protected from males because, well…men (and boys) are evil scum, remember? We basically understand the threat that undisciplined boys pose to girls and we want to protect them, how patriarchal of us. Whether it’s right or wrong, many times having a daughter helps men see the work that men still nee…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 01:52 AM
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The issues that lead men to go MGTOW are more complex than “crying about not getting laid”, but I’m not surprised that this ignorant and reductive framing is how it’s being described here. I get it though, it’s trendy to frame those guys as losers for walking away from traditional male roles than relegate them to a life of servitude to other people (mainly women). It is interesting to see that when women reject the expectations society has for them (like being a trad wife) we call that empowerme…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 01:42 AM
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If all I had to do was embrace a passive role, look pretty, sit back and pick and choose, I’d be really confident too.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 01:35 AM
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Just goes to show how absolutely miserable they are.
/r/MGTOW205/10/20 01:15 AM
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