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Round 1: 0 Round 2: 0 Game can’t fix bring universally ugly
/r/seduction06/08/26 05:32 PM
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Luckily that’s something I don’t have to worry about. Cause I’ve never been on a date. ba-dum tss
/r/seduction05/08/26 06:03 PM
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Except some of us run into a issue where any time we approach any woman with that respect, we are getting rejected by every woman. And when we do looksmax, the result is still the same. Like no woman wants us approaching which can make things very frustrating. Especially if we see everyone else approach and find someone who’s open to them approaching.
/r/seduction04/08/26 07:25 PM
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Pretty obvious that women only want good looking guys approaching them. They don’t want ugly guys ever approaching and will make it well known when one is through their nonverbal side. Although some have no issue verbally saying/telling the guy not to approach or stop talking. It’s shy some of us can never approach women no matter how much we try to looksmax
/r/seduction04/08/26 06:35 PM
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Either get experiences or be honest and say you’ve never dated. Nobody asks me about my dating life because they already know I never have/had one and most likely realize that I’m undateable. The fact that you have women asking about yours shows they think you’re dateable or someone to be with. They may even one day try to set you up with one of their friends.
/r/seduction03/08/26 08:20 PM
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Yes.
/r/seduction31/07/26 07:08 PM
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Yes I do
/r/seduction29/07/26 10:08 PM
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Hey you’re not the only guy that women see/view in a negative sense. Women see me as a disgusting monster of sorts due to being universally ugly and autistic. It might be best for you to bite the bullet and approach even if they don’t give you signals. Obviously you need to be considerate of what woman’s you want to approach body language is and if she’s giving vibes of don’t bother me, don’t bother. But if she is someone who looks to be open to being approached, go for it. Yes you may get calle…
/r/seduction29/07/26 04:52 PM
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The UK women thing is basically the same case here in the Midwest city I live in.
/r/seduction29/07/26 06:57 AM
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Technically there isn’t any.
/r/seduction29/07/26 06:56 AM
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I don’t. Women regardless of their age want nothing to do with me romantically and sexually
/r/seduction28/07/26 03:14 AM
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Yes and no.
/r/seduction27/07/26 05:49 PM
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It might be best for you.
/r/seduction27/07/26 05:25 AM
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People don’t like negative comments on here
/r/seduction24/07/26 01:42 AM
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>insane levels of victimhood and fatalism. Not really. It’s the reality of the situation. It could have happened to anyone. Our shoes could have been reversed easily. Luckily for you, it didn’t. >you for sure can level yourself up, get attractive, get confident, and get a girl. I did/do continue to do those things. They don’t help. >autistic girls need love too man They would rather date NT men. Most have no interest in dating autistic men. Some would/do but it’s nowhere close to the number of s…
/r/seduction23/07/26 08:10 PM
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>bro the SSRIs are numbing the pain rather than helping you fix the problem that shit is bad for you Well my problem is something that can’t be fixed. I certainly can’t force a woman to be into me or date me. Since no woman ever has been and there’s no signs that would indicate a woman would, these SSRI’s numbing the pain is the best case scenario for me.
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:48 PM
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>Wtf is with everyone saying they're autistic the last few years. I mean I was officially diagnosed with Asperger’s at an early age. It’s just that Asperger’s is now seen as level 1 autism today. >Quit making excuses for yourself and get out there. They’re not really excuses. It’s just reality of the situation for me. And I’m not the only guy in said situation either. >There are also ugly chicks in public too. Go to an anime convention or some shit They don’t want ugly guys approaching them. The…
/r/seduction23/07/26 06:36 PM
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Nope. 0 matches and 0 likes when I was on them. I can’t approach women either because I’m universally ugly and autistic. Women assume the absolute worse about me
/r/seduction23/07/26 06:08 PM
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SSRI’s along with other things I can’t say on here. But you’re talking to someone who’s in their 30’s and never had any action at all
/r/seduction23/07/26 03:59 PM
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I didn’t
/r/seduction23/07/26 02:43 AM
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Rejection is the only thing I’ve ever known with my romantic and sex life. For 10+ years, women always rejected me from going on a date with them. I’ve gotten sick and tired of it that I’m no longer gonna try when I know the answer will be rejection.
/r/seduction22/07/26 09:09 PM
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>Okay. Fine then. Continue to throw your hands up in the air and stay stagnant. It’s not so much staying stagnant but rather realizing the things that stop me are beyond my control >Not sure why you’re in this sub tho but that’s fine. More women for the rest of us To shit on seduction and be extremely critical of women’s dating choices
/r/seduction20/07/26 10:30 PM
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Pretty much. Although I would say looks isn’t the only thing that matters but it’s the thing that matters the most. If a woman is into you, she’ll purposely be around you in hope you notice them. Now asking them if they want to lay on their back or bend over will most likely result in that woman losing her attraction towards you. The way you phrased your question makes it seem like you only see her as a sex object. Women don’t like being seen that way.
/r/seduction20/07/26 07:49 PM
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>Naw. That’s now who you are Yes it’s who I am. >The problem is, you’re not actually being yourself when you talk to women. Being myself is avoiding them like the plague since women assume the worse about me from the get go. I speak from experience when I say these things. >You’re being too caught up in what to say, rather than living in the moment. Not at all. >How do you act around friends, family, coworkers? My coworkers are in a different state and I’m pretty much quiet with my family and fr…
/r/seduction20/07/26 03:27 PM
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Well being myself is what led me to being a 32 year old who’s never been on a first date or had a woman interested in me.
/r/seduction20/07/26 03:47 AM
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I’ve reached my peak with looksmax. It’s just that my best was 2/3 out of 10
/r/seduction16/07/26 12:41 AM
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It’s impossible for some of us
/r/seduction15/07/26 02:27 PM
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Maybe. I’m 31 and am in the same boat as you. I’ve never had a woman be romantically or sexually interested in me. You may go through your whole life never having a woman feel that way about me. Especially those men like myself exist.
/r/seduction13/07/26 06:44 PM
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I can confidently say that I’ve never been mentioned/featured in one of those groups……..cause I’ve never been on a first date or had a woman interested in me.
/r/MensRights10/07/26 04:35 PM
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There really isn’t a universal black pill agreement among blackpillers. But yes the answer you have on your post is the most common one among blackpillers. From my experiences of seeing how women react to me and my friends, having a good personality is critical. But her finding you good looking is what matters most. If she finds you too ugly to ever date, then your personality and attitude can’t convince her otherwise. If you can’t get your foot in the door, your personality and attitude can’t o…
/r/seduction07/07/26 03:32 PM
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I’m sorry to hear that for you OP. Sadly not every guy has the IT factor. I don’t have it either. Best thing to do is focus on other things
/r/seduction04/07/26 01:15 AM
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They never have in my entire lifetime. Universally ugly over here
/r/seduction03/07/26 02:54 AM
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It’s still best not to overcome it. If you like her as a friend, respect that and don’t push it
/r/seduction01/07/26 11:06 PM
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It’s best not to try and overcome it. It’s best to end the friendship with her it you like her that way but she doesn’t
/r/seduction01/07/26 11:02 PM
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For 10+ years and not even an ounce of positive reinforcement from a woman? And you watched every single guy around you have a woman interested in them except you?
/r/seduction01/07/26 08:51 PM
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Thanks for confirming to me that you would kill yourself if you had to walk a mile in my shoes
/r/seduction01/07/26 08:29 PM
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>There's an austictic guy in this sub has shown results using tips and tricks in this sub, I think I know who you’re talking about and I found his tips and tricks to be garbage >you just need to try and learn and be outcome free, buddy Go face 10+ years of constant rejection from women, never get an ounce of positive reinforcement at all and watch every single guy around you (including cheaters, abusers, addicts, etc.) have a woman interested in them except you and get back with me.
/r/seduction01/07/26 08:07 PM
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Yet you would feel the same way I feel if you a walked a mile in my shoes.
/r/seduction01/07/26 08:05 PM
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Yet it indeed is. I became this way because of 10+ years of constant rejection from women.
/r/seduction01/07/26 07:54 PM
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Because it didn’t help me. And since it didn’t help me, that’s all more the reason why I need to shit on it.
/r/seduction01/07/26 07:09 PM
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Of course you don’t. You would have already killed yourself if you walked a mile in my shoes with this
/r/seduction01/07/26 06:58 PM
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Made me realize how absolutely retarded seduction is and needs to be shitted on.
/r/seduction01/07/26 06:58 PM
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Some of us are too ugly, too weird, autistic, etc to ever have seduction work for us or even have a woman romantically and sexually interested in us.
/r/seduction01/07/26 06:39 PM
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What kind of reaction can possibly be warranted against people who are not participating in something? Doesn’t matter. You’re still gonna get a reaction. And if may not always be a positive one either. You could also decide to stay single but the majority of you keeps on complaining. Because I’m forced to be forever single. You don't have to lower your standards, I honestly don't even care about mens standards, but stop complaining then when the women you want don't want you. Except no woman wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 01:47 AM
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>We can also just not date and stay single. That's choosing better and still not dating people we're not interested in. Women already are doing that >Would you be okay with that? You and every other woman can do whatever you want. Just realize there’s gonna be a reaction to your action though. >Probably not if you think we should be "open minded" and give unchosen guys a chance. So women should probably stop telling men to lover your standards if this is gonna be the reaction women give when som…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 01:34 AM
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I do it so they can keep creating propaganda for the red and black pill
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:17 AM
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You shouldn’t be surprised considering who the commenter is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:16 AM
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Exactly. They don’t care about the women over at those countries. They care and are angry that the undateable men are going somewhere that would make them dateable instead of staying here and being obedient slaves for work, women’s rights and be romantically and sexually treated like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:15 AM
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how do you suppose this actually works in practice when bad men consistently pretend to be good? All you’re telling me with that is that women need to a better job detecting those things. Especially if the opinion is that men are doing a better job at hiding it. If men are getting better, then women need to be even better. what specifically does accountability look like? because it sounds like you think "accountability" means lowing their standards for people they're not attracted to. Stop assum…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:05 AM
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you're talking in circles about nothing. Not at all. You asked me if we are doomed after mentioning my previous comment and I told you it depends on who you ask regards the doom. you don't want accountability, i have a hard time believing you know what that word actually means. I want women to hold themselves accountable for CHOOSING TO DATE THE BAD MEN and to CHOOSE BETTER you want women to lower their standards so you don't have to try harder. Women can do whatever they want. But I’m still goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:52 PM
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>Again. At what point it is safe to assume that the issue is general men's behavior and not women's choices? Again at what point are a woman or women in general going to tell themselves: We absolutely suck at choosing men to date. We need to do a better job at making sure we don’t bad men but we also need to be more opened minded as well. Let’s stop saying I wouldn’t date so and so cause he’s ugly, he’s autistic, he’s weird, etc. Let’s find out a little who he is before deciding not to date him.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:49 PM
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Depends on what you mean when you say that. Because the people who think said bad guy is good don’t think things are doomed. They think things are going to get better in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:44 PM
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Except the men who you think are bad are considered good by those who voted therm in power.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:31 PM
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As far as dating perspective, a shit ton of men did exactly that. Wanna know what happened to those men? They either killed themselves or started agreeing with they opposed. Why? Because they got tired of being romantically and sexually lonely and got tired of being romantically and sexually treated like shit by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:30 PM
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We get it OP. You want to romantically and sexually treat the undateable men like shit, have them be obedient slaves to work, women’s rights etc and have them be ok be treated that way. You basically want to control the undateable men for your own satisfaction. >If you want access to women stop being a creep and work on your personality and hygiene and actually see women as people Funny enough I did/do all of those things and still ended being a 30+ year old KHHV guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:59 PM
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There’s plenty of bad men out there. I don’t disagree against that. But there’s also plenty of good men who often get overlooked/ignored by women to date because they’re ugly, they’re neurodivergent, they’re weird, etc. If one of these men talk about how they don’t like being single or how it makes them sad nobody wants to date them, women will instantly think he’s a bad person overall or give him dogshit advice. Yet those same women still are choosing to date the cheaters, abusers, addicts, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:35 PM
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Show me exactly where I said those things in my comments. Show me exactly where I said “They want us to apologize for the collective of women existing and not fucking them, girl.“
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:18 PM
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Start shifting blame to yourself for choosing date a bad man instead of assuming all men are bad because of said one man. Stop using the just world fallacy on ugly men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:17 PM
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A year plus just from dating apps only. Me accepting with the black pill was the result of 10+ years of constant rejection from asking women out, no woman ever being romantically or sexually interested in me for one second, reaching my 30’s being a KHHV who’s never been on a first date while watching every single guy around me have those experiences in their life. The 0 matches and 0 likes on the dating apps for a year plus played a role but not as big as the others I’ve mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:45 PM
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>Most women here deny hypergamy, don't sleep around with chads (or like, at all), will split the bill on a date Women’s words and actions don’t align with this. >Like, what do you even want What I personally want is for the blackpill to have a bigger voice on here, to have a mod on here be blackpill, for women to take accountability for their dating choices, for women to choose better, for women to not assume the absolute worst about me due to being universally ugly and autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:38 PM
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1 year+
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:26 PM
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I think most if not all of the PPD women on here do not have a positive impact on men. I actually think most of the women on here do a excellent job creating propaganda for the red and black pill Edit: I really really wish I could mention those who make excellent propaganda on here but sadly I can’t
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:13 PM
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It’s not so fun when it’s every woman being straight up rude either.
/r/seduction30/06/26 04:12 PM
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I’m not
/r/seduction30/06/26 04:11 PM
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Pretty interesting to see a woman saying this: https://np.reddit.com/r/lnkyverse/s/kd6fsxAtNn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:09 PM
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Then positive things need to happen first. Besides 0 matches and 0 likes was my reality with dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:50 PM
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Either N/A or 0 since I wasn’t getting any matches or likes when I was on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:45 PM
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I would defiantly say don’t leave. Because you may discover that the lady isn’t enjoying talking to the tall guy and would rather continue talking to you
/r/seduction30/06/26 03:40 PM
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A lot of them do it because they think the end result will be a woman finding them attractive and wanting to be romantically and sexually involved with them. Yet 99.9% of the time, it doesn’t result in that. There’s a great example of a Reddit user who was a mod for a white knight woman subreddit. Guess what? The guy killed himself because he couldn’t handle being romantically and sexually lonely anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:18 PM
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I tried a couple of times but I ask why am I doing it after a few days when nothing changed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:05 PM
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6’0”. But I’m universally ugly and autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:31 PM
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Yeah. I’ve realized this regarding the SSRI’s quite some time ago as well. I’ve tried many different types with many different dosages and they can’t fix being forever romantically and sexually lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:28 AM
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I have a few times. Came away thinking it’s overrated and overvalued slop
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:26 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:24 AM
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Well it’s a good thing I’m not looking for a obedient woman. Also paragraph breaks would really help you out OP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:23 AM
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For a second, I thought this post was from someone else completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:21 AM
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I certainly can’t afford to be an area or a room with a woman by myself anywhere (regardless of if I talk to her or not). If she accuses me of something while in that area I never did, people are going to take her word before they even let me speak for a second. I’ve had a woman coworker cause a car accident involving me at our workplace parking lot and was the next day bitching/insulting me up and down the work area to other women. It resulted in me getting very dirty looks from women for a whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:12 PM
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Except it’s pretty clear making money is their first goal while people finding matches and deleting the app is the last goal these companies have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:26 PM
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Cause they’re interested in making money. People finding dates and matches means their apps getting deleted which means money lost
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:25 PM
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>Women actively applaud and seemingly love to debate and talk about these unselected men as if they are the boogy man. They parade the isolation of these men as some massive triumph for female empowerment of their "choice" such as things like "welp our choice. too bad so sad'. It is a pathetic proxy war born out of utter cowardice and weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:23 PM
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Which is why it’s best not to develop crushes at work
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:20 PM
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https://x.com/dexerto/status/2071526853492297930?s=46 I would imagine tinder executives are quite pissed at this revelation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:12 PM
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>I think men say they don't want to be used for their money and objectified in that fashion, but they go to strip clubs where the women objectify them! I’ve never been to a strip club my whole life. >They also are sometimes passport bros and purposefully go to poorer countries where their USD matters more to those women and thus they are objectified there for their money I’ve never been a passport bro either u/PurplePillDebate-ModTeam OP basically copied the same idea from last post on here. Got…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:29 PM
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Didn’t a mod delete a post where a woman posted something original and then the guy copied it a hour later. Be interesting to see if the mods will do the same to this post u/PurplePillDebate-ModTeam
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:19 PM
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>That’s just guys making excuses for themselves. Not at all. >Any man who gos out into the world can see that any guy can get a girlfriend, you can be ugly, fat, weird, broke etc, for every kind of guy there are women that will be down. Not for a universally ugly and autistic guy >Now with that said I think every guy should try commit to self improvement and become the best versions of themselves. There are many men who are or were the best version of themselves and still had no woman ever attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:03 PM
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Maybe? But the odds are probably low
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:45 PM
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>It’s self inflicted. The issue is the advancement of technology has incentivized a lot of men to rot behind a screen at home rather than go out and socialize. Of course that has led to more men not getting laid. Let’s not ignore the fact that women have made it clear that they only want certain men to socialize with them. That if men don’t look and act a certain way, women will assume the worse about them and shut them down before they can even approach. >There’s a lot of men who are getting al…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:33 PM
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https://x.com/hauntedai/status/2070101943129649384?s=46 Well? Do they?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:19 PM
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It defiantly is for some of us. Women assume the absolute worst about me before I could even approach them due to being universally ugly and autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:07 PM
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I actually think it’s a great idea in the long run. Problem is that it would require people to starting caring about and start investing into the unselected men. The last thing people (especially women) want to do is care or invest in those men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:06 PM
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If the unselected men are a small number, sure. But the issue we’re seeing is that the number of unselected men keeps growing and growing. What if one day, the number of unselected men is more than selected men? Because we are very very slowly going down that path
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:02 PM
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It is a sad thing regardless of how people feel about him
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:00 AM
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Above all else, I want a chance to have a dating and sex life with a woman. Like that’s one thing I’m going to be very depressed about my whole life. Never ever getting the chance to have one due to being universally ugly and autistic. I can’t force a woman to date me and I don’t expect any woman to do so because of those things. But damn it I want those same chances women have given to every guy around me but me. The cheaters, abusers, addicts, etc. Like I would be ok with going on a first date…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:47 AM
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Yes
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:56 PM
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>My guy you’re using a just world fallacy on yourself. You think you deserve a girlfriend because you have a job. I deserve to have a chance at having a romantic and sex life. Yet no woman wants to give that chance. That’s there right but it’s also my right to shit on women as well and I will continue to do that. Just like how I’m shitting on you. I truly think you should be locked in a mental asylum right now. >I truly don’t give a shit. And that’s why they want to vote away your rights. But do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:03 PM
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>just dont expect people who have their lives somewhat together to want to be in your company and you are all set! Women already weren’t anyway due to me being universally ugly and autistic. Just also don’t get upset if these undateable men decide to vote away women’s rights because of it either and you’re all set.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:46 PM
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>You realise that a lot of white women are “trumpers”right ? Irrelevant >“Women” didn’t tell YOU shit. Oh yes they did. Don’t you dare try to change history. >Women claiming to go “4B” because of an election are delusional and not actually about it Women saying they were going to go 4B because of the loss was extremely deranged. Like borderline lock them up in a mental asylum deranged. >as baskets of unfuckables thinking a trump presidency was going to give them government girlfriends. No they v…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:40 PM
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It was pretty clear in the last election that women had a perspective that all of the men (regardless of them being undateable or not) needed to vote for democrats because the republicans talked about women losing certain rights. A very my way or highway mindset with the whole. So when the republicans won the election, countless women said they were going to go 4B immediately after. It is women who need to grow and they need to grow up now. You defending this shit by women is FUCKING DISGUSTING.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:04 PM
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Not at all. Women expect me (indirectly) to be a slave to work and also expect me to stand up for their rights and freedoms and yet continue to romantically and sexually treat me like shit. They expect me to do those things for good of women. If I told women: Hey women, date the undateable men for the good of men, I’d get blasted by women everywhere. Yet women expect the same from us and get resounding applause.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:52 PM
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>If you dont want to work then you won't have a roof over your head or food. But thats up to you! I thought those things were supposed to be human rights in a sense. >Women aren't making you work, your survival is. If your mom is telling you to get a job, that means shes tired of supporting you, no other woman would care. Women expect me (indirectly) to be a slave to work and also expect me to stand up for their rights and freedoms and yet continue to romantically and sexually treat me like shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:21 PM
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Then women need to stop expecting me to be obedient slave for work and start being open to talking to me. Yet that’s never going to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:50 PM
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The funny thing about that episode is that he found out one of his ex’s he was madly in love with was getting married. It triggered the spiral he went though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:11 PM
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As someone who qualifies for the male romantic and sexual loneliness epidemic, no I haven’t and most likely never will. It would be too depressing to read them. Besides aren’t most of those fiction anyway? I don’t see how they would help me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:30 PM
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I’ll never truly know myself or at least know who I am when it comes to dating, being in a relationship, sex, etc. It’s going to be one of my greatest mysteries I have for myself. I really wish I could find out
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:43 AM
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https://www.tmz.com/2026/06/25/worlds-smallest-penis-man-starts-gofundme-for-surgery/ He needs our help PPD’s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:41 AM
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Why not just give him the HR rejection text message? You don’t have to tell him it’s because he’s got a small penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:22 PM
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Forget about being born a man or a woman. I wish I was never born from the get go
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:18 PM
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The issue for a lot of men being single is that it’s involuntarily. They don’t want to be single. They want to date, be in a relationship, be married or even simply hookup. But they forever into being single and have women everywhere telling them to be happy being single or be given absolute dogshit advice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:32 PM
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31 years old 0 Why: Because I’ve realized no woman wants a universally ugly autistic guy to approach them. Not to mention that the women here in my area are very closed off. They have a don’t bother me vibe to them. Unless she sees you as a Chad of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:49 PM
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Brutal💣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:06 PM
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Oh so the women on here are purposely ignoring OP’s question and spin it in a way where you remind everybody how women can be victims. Except OP never asked if women even exist in the eyes of women? They asked if men victims exist in the eyes of women. And instead of simply answering the question, they’re adding their twist to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:06 PM
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Well based on what I’ve seen from the comments of women so far, only one believes men can be victims. Not surprising
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:22 PM
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>Or just get out of your feelings, recognize every person is a new opportunity/fresh start, and stop carrying all this baggage around with you for no reason. No. My feelings matter and I’m going to treat them as they matter. Also I can’t really a fresh start when every new woman assume the absolute worst about me due to being universally ugly and autistic and them not realizing I’m autistic. All they know is that I’m different in a way they don’t understand. Thus the fear of unknown kicks in. >Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:00 PM
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>Or just get out of your feelings, recognize every person is a new opportunity/fresh start, and stop carrying all this baggage around with you for no reason. No. My feelings matter and I’m going to treat them as they matter. Also I can’t really a fresh start when every new woman assume the absolute worst about me due to being universally ugly and autistic and them not realizing I’m autistic. All they know is that I’m different in a way they don’t understand. Thus the fear of unknown kicks in. >Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:00 PM
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>I’m not sure how it’s not a numbers game? Like, someone who pursues 500 people is going to have more chances for success than someone who pursues 20. I’m a living example that’s it’s not a numbers game. 10+ years of constant rejection from asking women out. Also that said person could pursue 20, 500 or even 1000 and still end up with 0 success. >I was pretty much always the pursuer when I was younger, and I was really aggressive about it—not aggressive with the individual people, but aggressive…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:30 PM
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Why did the men agree to those things? Because there issues were noticed and cared by the current administration. It’s just that care was faked by them but fake care is better than no care. >If you’re one of those American men, what have you gained from Trump’s current term? The only thing I’ve ever gained from any administration regardless of their political party is when Trump gave out I think around 3500 in stimulus checks during COVID
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:18 PM
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Again, I have told you I’ve seen pics of plenty and could see why no woman ever found them attractive. Women hate them and yet don’t even know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:09 PM
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Of course you don’t and you use just world fallacy on those men to reach your conclusion about them way before they started saying those terrible things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:51 PM
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>I think a huge part of this is just that we’re not honest with young people that, for most people, it’s a numbers game. Except it’s not even a numbers game. Also we’re afraid of being honest because the honest answer would result in more incels and blackpillers which increase the chances of other bad things. >The default ‘men pursue, women are pursued’ dynamic definitely needs to change, Women have no interest in pursuing and they don’t have to either. >and women need to reject people kindly ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:44 PM
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And I have seen the pics of plenty of incels and I could easily see as to why they became one. I see why no woman ever found them attractive. So my question still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:34 PM
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>Whatever helps you sleep at night bookie Thank you again for proving my point. >So you tell me then. Do you not believe in the existence of good men unless a reward is in order? If not, what are you even complaining about? I think the existence of a good man is extremely extremely rare. My complaint is that women love to use the just world fallacy as far as romantically and sexually lonely single men being all around evil and the cheaters, abusers, addicts, being good in a sense. >Lol are you y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:33 PM
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>Men are being judged as individuals - individuals that overwhelmingly supported the orange rapist and young MAGAts are the biggest casualty of that as they are the demographic that is hated the most. Why do you think those men have agreed to those things? Let me give you a hint: it’s not because they are gullible
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:12 PM
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>Faulty logic. Not at all. The fact you believe that otherwise proves my original point for me. Thank you for that. >There are plenty of good men. They just don't label themselves as "Nice guys" with a capital N. Are they good men because they’re actually good? Or are they good because they were rewarded for being good? >Say what you mean. Incels. You're talking about incels. Let’s discuss incels for a second: Even if none of those incels ever said any of those things, they still wouldn’t have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:02 PM
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>I have seen incels online advocate for women to be raped and murdered because they don’t choose nice guys. A lot of people who claim to be nice are not nice. Even if none of those incels ever said any of those things, they still wouldn’t have a woman romantically or sexually interested in them for their entire life. Yet why do women expect them to contribute to society? For the greater good of society? For the greater good of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:57 PM
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Women’s actions say my previous message quite clearly. Otherwise, the cheaters, abusers, criminals, addicts would be in the same position as the Nice guys. The fact that OP along with many other women talk about how nice guys aren’t actually nice but are narcissistic people pleasing losers. Yet I never seen a woman post or comment on here saying: “We are terrible men selectors. We choose to be with cheaters, abusers, criminals, addicts, etc. We need to take accountability for our choices and cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:54 PM
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>Build a rapport, get to know her a little, don't call it a "friendship" and then ask her out. If she says no, walk away with your pride and dignity intact and MOVE ON to any one of the literal MILLIONS of women who are in your approximate age range and speak your language in the world. The problem for many men including myself is that we have done this many many times over long periods of time with the result being said woman not being interested in us that way due to something beyond our contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:38 PM
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The funny thing that a lot of women believe is that the nice guy is worse than the cheater, abuser, criminal, addict men. Because those men must have had positive enough qualities to have a woman interested in them. Whereas the nice guy had none and is therefore worse than those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:25 PM
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I thought women realized this many moons ago
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:22 PM
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I truly hate the city I live in. It’s a city where couples move to raise their families. If you live here your whole life, you pretty much have to find your SO in your high school days or basically go your whole life being single. Sadly, I won’t be able to move anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:41 AM
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No. It’s me being autistic and having no romantic and sexual experience at all. Not even touching a woman’s hand
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:35 AM
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I think weed is the alcohol for young people if that makes sense. Shoot I’m 31 who’s sexually and romantically depressed and my drinking day are pretty much gone. But if I could buy a year worth of edibles, I’m do it in a heartbeat and take one each night
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:18 AM
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Even if I don’t tell my lack of experience, I’m sure women will be able to tell through my nonverbal side.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:12 AM
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OP’s former coworker was brutal but she was right (not about OP personally but just overall). There isn’t somebody out there for everybody and some of us are going to live life never having a dating and sex life. I’ve realized the same myself as well after 10+ years of constant rejection and no woman ever being interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:40 AM
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There’s defiantly a lot of men on there who want to date someone exclusively. They don’t want to hookup and go away. They want to find their special someone in a sense. Problem for those guys is that they have everything going against them. They’re too ugly, weird, fat, etc. So they’re getting no matches at all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:21 AM
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Oh I don’t doubt that. I would say more about it but I’d get banned on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:33 AM
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Which post was it on here? All of the posts I’ve seen seem like they came from a real person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:15 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/dating\_advice/s/yb91m7IXPe Brutal💣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:36 PM
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Supposedly it’s 40
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:30 PM
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What hints did these women give out to indicate interest to those men? Complaining about how men don’t approach as much isn’t a hint.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:10 PM
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Did any of the women there get approached by the guys there? If they did, how did it go?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:00 PM
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It is if said man is 30+ and has no dating, relationship or sexual experiences. If a woman becomes interested in said guy and then finds out those things about said guy, it’ll make the woman question herself. She’ll wonder what she’s missing about him that other women did notice and avoided from dating. If she can’t figure it out, most of the time, the said interested woman will lose interest because of other women avoiding him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:35 PM
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Nice to see we have a study that confirms it. So the next time a woman says height doesn’t matter, I’ll present this study to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:14 PM
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Nonexistent
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:05 AM
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Society has no interest in finding an alternative because society truly doesn’t care to find one. The only thing society cares about with each person is what they can contribute to it. Society doesn’t care if so and so incel thinks he’s entitled to a woman. Society doesn’t care if so and so incel thinks women should lose their rights. Society doesn’t care if so and so incel shoots up a random place that results in at most 20 people dying. Society doesn’t care. Which is why you have some incels w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:32 PM
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https://x.com/polymarket/status/2069067640002216174?s=46 For the England soccer fans
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:11 PM
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https://x.com/hauntedai/status/2068687884975026588?s=46 This is probably reality for some soon
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:26 PM
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I mean certain men do like MILF’s and it’s not because all they want to do with them is pump and dump. They want to date and be in a relationship with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:24 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/seduction/s/G2xWD8jvAv The days of me cold approaching a woman are long gone. But, posts like these certainly remind me why the past (of cold approaching) is staying right where it was, in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:27 AM
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Women also tend to assume the worst about us as well since they can sense something is off about us but aren’t what exactly it is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:42 AM
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Pretty clear that they don’t with certain things
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:37 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/WhatMenDontSay/s/VRzpCUCxzD Another brutal💣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:02 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/dating/s/hznCCxs8xA Post is 7 years old but man, that post is so depressing to read. I wonder if he was able to lose it or is currently living as a 72 year old virgin. Sadly, that’s gonna be me 34 years from now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:59 AM
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People love using the just world fallacy on lonely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:49 AM
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Depends on person
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:37 AM
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I know you’re upset and all but 1 week is better than permanent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:33 AM
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Temporary or permanent?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:29 AM
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I’m guessing it’d be the lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:28 AM
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Not really IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:58 AM
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I think sex is a lot more special than what we want to admit on and I personally think society loves sex. It’s a borderline obsession. This is evident based on the fact that most people are starting to have sex at very early ages (me being 31 virgin is rare), the idea that porn is now a borderline 1 billion dollar industry, how sex is seen pretty much everywhere. Commercials, tv shows, online, social media, etc. and how there is a power behind sex. Having sex is seen as a sign of you being a val…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 10:07 PM
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But undateable it looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:57 PM
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<image> I get the feeling she was attracted to men who only wanted to pump and dump her and found the men who thought she was attractive were ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:37 PM
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1: It’s hard telling since everybody’s definition of a good guy is different across the board. There were people who thought Hitler or Stalin were good guys and we both know what history tells us about them. 2: Who truly does have everything together? One could argue no one truly does until the day they die. 3: Hard telling. It’s not very many that’s for sure. I certainly have exposed some men members on here for being very bad person. But I truly believe the worst man on here is nowhere close t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:14 PM
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I get the feeling the answer is gonna be along the lines of “that’s something you’re gonna have to figure out on your own. We may give you some ideas but in the end, the question is all on you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:35 AM
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-10 in looks 5 in social skills with people 3 in social skills with women -10 in game.
/r/seduction19/06/26 05:32 AM
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Some of us are just too ugly to ever have seduction to work. We could be the masters of seduction skills and yet we’ll always fail because every woman we come across finds us too ugly to date:
/r/seduction19/06/26 05:31 AM
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The idea of rejection isn’t something that’s bad in a single sense. However in my case, rejection is the only thing I’ve ever known with my dating life. 10+ years of constant rejection from asking women out. I can’t remember out the times I had success with at least a first date with a woman because I’ve always been rejected. No first dates, no “yes I’ll go out with you.”, no interest, nothing. And after you go through the same thing over and over and over and over, at some point you’re gonna as…
/r/seduction19/06/26 05:29 AM
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Everything plus the autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:47 PM
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No because you have men on these apps who are swiping right on every woman they see in hopes of getting sex with one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:45 PM
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So basically women are doing the exact same thing to men that they hate when men do it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:15 PM
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It’s probably more so young women despise almost all men in the context of dating and relationships and also despise young men in general with just about everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:04 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:35 PM
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Your example is of a different photo that was indeed AI altered. But we’re not talking about that photo. We are talking about this photo. So again if you’re going to say the photo I posted is AI, I’m gonna respond with a:
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:48 PM
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>it's AI.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:20 PM
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<image>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:03 PM
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https://x.com/brianatlas/status/2067585621695295516?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:48 PM
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Well for every woman who dates and realizes a guy is being manipulative and leaves him, another woman is experiencing the same and doesn’t leave him for whatever reason. Point is that being that way for a guy works for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:27 PM
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>What would greatly help is if women stop hating us simply for having autism Sadly that day will never come.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:48 AM
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So you’re indirectly telling that she indeed virtue signal him. You can give me a million reasons as to why she did it. But it doesn’t change the fact that she virtue signaled him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:41 PM
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It still doesn’t warrant her reaction back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:30 PM
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<image> Brutal💣 part 2
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:52 PM
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<image> Brutal💣 part 1
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:51 PM
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Considering how aggressive she got with her comments, it’s seems pretty clear that she was virtue signaling him. If she walked past him, she would have never noticed him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:42 PM
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https://x.com/mujifren/status/2067085891676549156?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:32 PM
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>So you guys want her? Why? Whats special about her? We want a woman to be romantically and sexually attracted to us and vice versa. >When? All of the time with your posts and comments. Of course you can’t see them because you have the all women are always wonderfully disease on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:21 PM
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Words that you personally looked for while ignoring the men who didn’t say such words. So yes you are using just world fallacy on those men and now you’re playing the victim as well instead of taking accountability of doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:18 PM
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>Theyre talking as individuals. Their actions betray their words >So he has pretty privlege. To her. Doesn’t mean he has it with everyone. >Thats how I feel when guys go AWALT over the nasty women they choose to date. Yet you defend women who go AMALT
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:12 PM
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Those who do already do. Those who don’t because they can’t and don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:05 PM
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I personally would want one woman to be into me romantically and sexually and vice versa. But I do see you’re using the just world fallacy and recommend you do some deep reflection on why you are doing that to those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:55 PM
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Because people love using the just world fallacy on the undesirable men. You OP have an obsession to using it considering how you post on here everyday towards undesirable men. Women have preached about how looks don’t matter to them and how they care more about personality and attitude of said guy. To only turn around and date the truly terrible men because she saw him as a Chad in her eyes. Then when that relationship does indeed go wrong, women will say all men are like their bad ex and start…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:46 PM
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Question: What’s so different about the 69th approach vs 70th approach in regard to complain or not about it?
/r/seduction17/06/26 05:52 AM
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Stay safe
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:44 AM
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This is gonna get taken down since you have no indication that you are a woman OP. Only women can ask questions to men and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:13 AM
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So one inexperienced man doing that equals all inexperienced men will do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:31 PM
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>It's like all the advice is horrible. More like it is horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:31 PM
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So yes you are a child. Now everything makes sense. Thank you for confirming what I suspected was the case. I have no interest in talking to children on here so I will be muting this conservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:50 PM
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More so Chad = Republican or Democrat. It depends on which woman finds said guy to be a “Chad” in her eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:48 PM
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Oh no. A white knight reddit user says I’ll be forever alone /s 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 Serious question: Are you a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:39 PM
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😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:33 PM
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An ugly nerdy guy is for women. But otherwise it ranges from no to indifferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:25 PM
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Curious: Do you find everybody who disagrees with you to be ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:10 PM
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Join the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:07 PM
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It’s not the biggest problem for myself but I’m never was a “Chad” in a woman’s eyes. I am universally ugly to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:01 PM
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They already do. The reason for it is because they think with their vagina whenever they come across someone they see as a “Chad”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:59 PM
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There was defiantly a belief from women that men had an moral obligation to vote for Harris. And when the opposite happened, many many women came out and said they were gonna the 4B movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:41 PM
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It’s what you would call thinking with their vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:33 PM
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At least your comment has merit then. Most people who say a statement like yours have no merit behind said comment because they themselves have experienced those things. Also it wasn’t an assumption on my part so quit playing victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:51 PM
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I found those who have said statements like yours to be in a relationship or have been in a relationship/hooked up with someone. It’s never said by those who have been single and/or a KHHV their whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:41 PM
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OP posts another misandrist post about men. The mods:
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:30 PM
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Is it? I mean sure women can now be more picky in who they want to date and have the ability to have their sexual fun and freedom. But at the same time, many women have talked about there aren’t many good men out there. And at the same time, the men don’t get picked is leading to increase of the red and black pill becoming more popular and mainstream. It’s also led to women slowly losing away their rights as well. Roe vs Wade has been overturned, there’s a call for gay marriage to be overturned …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:17 PM
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I wouldn’t say it’s 5% but I don’t think it’s ideal that more and more men are getting no interest/attention from any woman at all. It’s why aspects of both the red and black pill are becoming main stream.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:08 AM
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Isn’t there still a ton of South Korean women who are taking in part in it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:36 PM
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>Disagree. I think both sexes can obtain sex if they really wanted. Sure, men will have to jump through significantly more hoops. Women can obtain it easily but they choose not too. Some (although very small amount) men will never experience sex because no woman will ever want to be with them in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:33 PM
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I’ve seen a lot of videos of Mexican women making out with South Korean men who are there for the World Cup. Considering how many South Korean women take part in the 4B movement, Mexico may see an uptick of South Korean men moving to their country.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:26 PM
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Because it’s an involuntarily one for a lot them. For some of them, it’s an involuntarily until the day they die. For a few certain men like me, it’s a involuntarily one until the day we die and it’s something we’ll never ever experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:16 PM
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Shoot it’s impossible for me to pull any woman.
/r/seduction15/06/26 08:10 PM
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More so depression for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:19 PM
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Well it’s not like I’ll ever be able to experience casual sex since no woman ever wants to be with me in that way. So sadly for me, it’ll forever be a mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:27 PM
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https://x.com/blackpilledpaki/status/2066082075997081641?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:25 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/moreplatesmoredates/s/Ag3IuZVA6R
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 06:15 AM
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Yeah it’s depressing. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:50 AM
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Nope. Never been on a first date. Yes I have and it’s been nothing but rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:21 AM
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I luckily have never missed an opportunity……..because I’ve never been given one. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:16 AM
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Was under a tornado warning tonight for a while so that was nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:15 AM
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2nd
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:23 PM
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And yet I will keep on complaining about it
/r/seduction13/06/26 09:07 PM
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It is amazing how a very small minority are just too ugly to ever have someone be romantically and sexually attracted to us. Like almost 99% of people experience a romantic or sexual moment with someone else. It makes me realize that I’m indeed special.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:03 PM
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<image> Is this something women don’t realize until after they dated a “Bad Boy”? Or is it something they do realize but still go ahead and date them because they are thinking with their vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:00 PM
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I’ve never heard a man say that their 50’s are the peak years. I’ve heard many say the 30’s are the peak years but never 50’s. Shoot I had my peak year as far as looks go in my child years. As I’ve grown, I’ve gotten more and more uglier in a sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:48 PM
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The funny thing is that the ugly woman/en had no romantic or sexual interest in me either. Most of them were interested in a Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:25 PM
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Because I can and will continue to shit on seduction. I’ve accepted it but that doesn’t mean I’m gonna be quiet about it. I’m gonna voice my complaints for everybody to see.
/r/seduction13/06/26 03:00 AM
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Welcome to the ah well I can’t say it on here. But yes there are some of us who just too ugly in which no matter how much you study and try to do seduction, it’ll always end badly simply because of your looks.
/r/seduction13/06/26 12:12 AM
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And once again the mods are being BUZZ KILLINGTON’S AGAIN in less than a minute. It’s an addiction for you guys/gals. You need help and you need it badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:00 PM
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Mods being Buzz Killington’s again. Delete the post that talked most women not being special that had a ton of upvotes to it while keeping the most men aren’t special post up that has a ton of downvotes. You’re not escaping the reddit mods being misandrist allegations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:49 PM
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Constant rejection/negative experiences from cold approaching along being universally ugly and autistic.
/r/seduction12/06/26 03:11 PM
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Well women certainly don’t have to care that men don’t have partners. But the number of single men is starting to grow. Before it started growing, we saw men who got left out deciding to pull the plug on life or even worse forcefully pulling the plug on other people’s lives before pulling his own. We have seen men become NEET’s and have no overall interest in contributing to society but rather hinder it. We have seen the creation and overall rise of both the red pill and black pill. People like …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:31 PM
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Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:18 PM
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Thank you
/r/seduction12/06/26 01:31 PM
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and this is exactly why you got downvoted. So? Your attitude and general perspective is horrendous. You don't know everything and you don't know what people think or feel. what you're doing is assuming based on past experiences and filling in a lot of blanks with your own ideas. A woman could be disinterested in the moment for any number of reasons. Sometimes women will reject you even when they're interested . Not an attitude issue or general perspective issue. Sounds like you don't really even…
/r/seduction12/06/26 01:31 PM
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>Why are you here exactly, except to bitch about how it's too late for you or whatever? To shit on seduction. >I mean if you genuinely believe that you are beyond hope then at least have the decency to fuck off from here and stop annoying others who are actually trying to get or give useful advice. Don’t tell me what I can and can’t do. Who the fuck are you? Why don’t you have the decency to move on after seeing my comment instead of telling me what I can and can’t do. I will continue to shit on…
/r/seduction12/06/26 01:28 PM
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>but luckily this means that there's hope because it's literally impossible for every woman to rate you at 0 consistently. It’s possible. >you just have to find the ones that have an interest above 0. Which are none and will stay that way due to things beyond my control. >don't give up, give yourself some time - you'll be okay u/WebNew9978 Already in my 30’s and have never been on a date.
/r/seduction12/06/26 06:11 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:06 AM
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7 days?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:34 AM
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Which dude? The instagram dude or the YouTube dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:06 AM
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I wouldn’t get famous from it. Shoot it wouldn’t even result the same way like it did with that ugly guy from Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:03 AM
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Well they like too anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:35 AM
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It’s more complicated unfortunately.
/r/seduction12/06/26 01:18 AM
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Yes it is. Going out and about is me actively dating. It’s just that I can’t do more than I would like such as not being able to approach women due to being universally ugly and autistic. Maybe if women didn’t assume the worst about me before I even approach them, I’d be open to doing it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:15 AM
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Well a lot of us don’t either and people love using the just world fallacy on us
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:02 AM
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I gotta get the point of actually going on a first date before I even think a question like yours OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:53 PM
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Well that’s the assumption people have on us. We’re worse than criminals, cheaters and abusers in a dating/relationship regard because those people can get dates and relationships while blackpillers can’t
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:40 PM
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Yes it is. Anytime your “skills” worked on so and so woman is because she at worse find you neutral in her attraction towards you. If she found you ugly beforehand, your “skills” were never going to work.
/r/seduction11/06/26 10:40 PM
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It’s more so a looks issue than skill. I can’t even get to a woman’s door before they slam it shut and lock the key before I even knock.
/r/seduction11/06/26 10:25 PM
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No it’s more do no woman ever wants me to talk to them or approach them. The only skills/lessons I learned are that I’m too ugly and too autistic to approach any woman
/r/seduction11/06/26 10:18 PM
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Why do you want to be best friend with a black piller?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:37 PM
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I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:34 PM
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I guess. Do you want to be friends with a black pilled guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:26 PM
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Missouri
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:20 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:48 PM
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>Get your asses out of the house and actually talk to living, breathing, women, and do so frequently and consistently. Women don’t want me talking to them. Anytime I tried doing so, I was met with rejection to absolute disgust that I ever tried.
/r/seduction11/06/26 08:45 PM
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The city I live in (which is hosting games) acts like it cares but the people who live in it really don’t. Shoot there’s even a rumor that a FIFA official who travelled to all of the cities hosting matches said we were the worst city they’ve been to as far as overall excitement and buzz of it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:39 PM
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Because I still put myself out there for a woman to talk too if they choose to do so. It’s just that I realized I can’t approach women since every time I did it resulted from a simple rejection to almost having the cops called on me. Plus dating apps would be a waste of time since they’re not really designed for ugly men. Yes ugly men are on them but they’re not getting matches or likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:36 PM
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You really agree with the blackpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:23 PM
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https://x.com/wydblaise/status/2064375340441428278?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:05 PM
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>That would be hard to do because I saw when my last post said one day ago before I posted again. With today’s post yes. But yesterday’s post? WRONG >That doesn’t work with other people have also said it. Also, that you’re fitting the definition. YOU’RE PLAYING VICTIM AGAIN. GOTTA STOP IT. YOU’RE NOT THE VICTIM >You were repeatedly told I wasn’t. And it’s quite clear that you were. This really isn’t up for debate either. The fact that the mods are even arguing is a very poor reflection on their …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:17 PM
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Probably. But it’s not like I have a high opinion on Reddit admins either. I personally think the Reddit Admins are misandrist fascist loving pigs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:08 PM
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>You were told it was 24 hours after the last approved post was made and you’re still crying about it. And I counter argued saying it actually had been 23 hours and the fact that you posted 6 hours later as well pointing to the fact that you broke the rule twice. >You’re proving you’re just trying to do a witch hunt. VICTIM MENTALITY ALERT, VICTIM MENTALITY ALERT. For someone who says they hate when men do the same, you sure are addicted to it. >Hey mods, can we do something about people who do …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:43 PM
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It probably doesn’t help.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:24 PM
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>Not exactly asking if it’s going well or not — but are you actively trying to date? Always am. >Are you on dating apps? Nope. Got 0 matches and 0 likes through the years. >Are you asking women out IRL? Not anymore. Women don’t like it when I do ask them out. >Are you on a platform like Reddit or elsewhere wherein you regularly communicate with potential desired partners? Yes and no. It’s more so of taking it one day at a time. >And if you are, why are you still here? Does it help or hurt? Or do…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:24 PM
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No I presented well thought out arguments that proved that you are a rule breaker with that rule. I also should have argued that you should have been banned for a month since you have clearly shown that you disregarded said rule and kept acting like a victim as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:17 PM
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I know but she’s also broken rule twice beforehand. This is her first time actually following said rule
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:06 PM
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>At the same time, I think it might help to separate what’s happened to you from the conclusions you’ve had to make about yourself and about women in general. When you’ve had a lot of negative experiences in a row, it’s really easy for the mind to start turning that into a fixed explanation like “this is just how it is for me” or “people react this way to me universally,” even if reality might be more mixed than that. It’s not really healthy for anyone to be romantically and sexually rejected th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:55 PM
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OP waited 24 hours before she posted again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:53 PM
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The thing I’ve learned about dating is that you can be the most racist, ableist, ageist, etc person out there with your dating life and no one will bat an eye so long as you’re not blaming others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:53 AM
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In my 31 years of living (or 15-16 years of dating), no woman has ever given me the subtle hints of interest women put out. I've seen other guys get these hints from a woman. Some l've helped realize what was happening. Other times I was telling the guy "you blew it with her" and the sense of regret comes by for said guy. Those hints men have seen or received from women have never ever come my way. l've never had a guy tell me that I blew it with her and never have felt the regret of missing out…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:50 AM
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Women can certainly do whatever they want with their dating life. But the thing that women need to realize that for the men who’ll never get picked, you cannot and should not expect them to be ok with being left out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:29 AM
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How could they though? Especially if nobody wants to with them in that way? Sure you may say word of mouth from who have done it or research but that’s not really gonna have them understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:22 PM
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Because most women see it as the guy only seeing her as a sex object and not an actual person
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:21 PM
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>secondly being autistic may have contributed to him being unattractive, but that wasn't the problem, Seems pretty clear that it was based on how you worded your post. >the problem was his sense of sexual entitlement that erases female agency. You mean the same sexual entitlement women have when they assume the worst about someone before they even approach cause they’re ugly and autistic? What’s different? One is public and one is private?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:06 PM
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Women find it insulting when said ugly even tries asking them out. Like a “how dare you even do such thing”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:01 PM
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Question: Why do you think I posted the original comment where I did and not elsewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:49 PM
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And I don’t think a woman should be free to assume the absolute worst about a man before he even speaks to them because they’re ugly and/or autistic. Yet we both know both of those things happen. So wait why is it ok to say you want to control men’s free will in that regard but it would be wrong in wanting the same with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:25 PM
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Pretty clear that women either don’t care or are happy that young men feel abandoned and demonized by the left. A big reason as to why the left lost badly in 2024 is because they cared about every issue related to women, LGTBQ, immigrants and criminals. There was no concern or voice from the left regarding young men, blue collar working men, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:13 PM
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It’s almost like it’s not healthy for anyone to always be romantically and sexually rejected for their whole life and expect them to be ok with always being rejected. Telling them to “just deal with it” isn’t and never will be the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:04 PM
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Misandry has clouded your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:58 PM
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So you want to control men’s free will in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:52 PM
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I wonder what country he was from? Otherwise I don’t find it to be torture when a woman dresses or looks sexy. It’s all meh to me. What is torture for me is when I’m at an event, place, restaurant, etc and everybody around me is coupled and I’m the only odd wheel out. That’s fucking torture. But again it’s not one anybody has to fix. >I was once at a party between colleagues and I chose to wear a dress that showed a fair amount of cleavage but not in a gross way as I wanted to look both serious …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:20 PM
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Those are your words not mine. Do not put words in my mouth for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:05 PM
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Well it seems like it’s time for posts to go through approval since it’s clear someone has been breaking and abusing this new rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:03 PM
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Her posts got approved at one time before it got taken down. It’s not like a mod quickly removed the post. It took hours until wtknights removed hers. So the clock should have kept on going since it got approved at one time. She broke said rule 6 hours later and again 21 hours later from the original deleted post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:35 PM
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And yet everything you mentioned doesn’t take away the fact that she has broken this rule not once but twice in 24 hours
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:18 PM
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It’s actually been 23 hours since her original post got deleted along with wtknights comment. Then she posted six hours later asking a question for men. Then she posted this two hours ago which at the time, it hasn’t been 24 hours since the original deleted post. So not only has she broken this new rule once, she has broken it twice in 24 hours since her original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:16 PM
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I’ve never been on a first date
/r/seduction10/06/26 05:10 PM
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Not just you and me but a lot of men as well if they did the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:02 PM
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Really? If that’s true, that should warrant a permanent ban on here for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:52 PM
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Me saying she broke a rule = witch hunting and targeting?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:51 PM
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Quit acting like Lillth is some victim against the system or a victim of witch hunt. It’s crystal clear she has broken the no new posts in 24 hours not ONCE but TWICE in less than 24 hours. I urge you to look at this photo and realize that she is indeed breaking a rule. That me being black pilled has no bearing on the fact that she has broken the rule not once but twice. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:50 PM
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Follow the rules. It’s not difficult. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:39 PM
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NOPE <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:26 PM
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NOPE <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:22 PM
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It strokes your ego that you’re breaking the rules the mods have put on here? I’m pretty sure that’s gonna warrant a ban. I do find it funny how you got caught breaking a rule and instead of taking fault of breaking said rule, you play victim and personally attack me (which has also been reported). You can’t wait a simple 24 hours before shitting on men again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:08 PM
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It hasn’t been 24 hours mods. u/WtKnight
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:52 PM
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Didn’t OP make the exact same post as last week?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:16 PM
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The dog in the 9th picture looks cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:00 AM
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Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:56 AM
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Serious enough for a woman to ask the same question to men? Only fair enough to ask the same to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:45 AM
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Didn’t the mods on here remove your earlier post and said you can only post once on here every 24 hours? u/WtKnight
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:42 AM
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Like you’re exactly doing for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:30 PM
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Committing illegal crimes isn’t a solution
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:30 PM
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And again you are not entitled to control any of these men’s ability to complain about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:01 PM
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Then there’s no reason to cherry pick. Yet that’s exactly what you are doing. So whats the issue? A lot of them are drug addicts and are doing it so they can their next high So then why aren’t more men dissuaded from wanting sex as soon as possible? Because they are risk takers and risk taking is rewarded in society. Asking a woman to hookup after talking to each other for a few minutes is risky but he still did it because he believes the possibility of being told yes. In one small area of the U…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:26 PM
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If we’re going to pretend all ladies of the night are dealing with an Epstein problem, then there’s no point in continuing this conversation. I never said all are but there are a lot of ladies out there who do have a pimp out there watching and controlling them. Interesting you think only ladies of the night do that. Point to me where I said otherwise. So why isn’t that a concern when guys want to fuck a woman ASAP? It is. Just because they don’t say it doesn’t mean that it isn’t. There’s legal …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:28 PM
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Victim of human trafficking/sex slave, substances abuse, STI’s/STD’s, actual desire to be with said guy, undercover sting operations, etc. You’re basically indirectly endorsing those things when you ignore them when telling these men to go see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:14 PM
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We both know that there are plenty of issues with the oldest profession. You acting like those issues don’t matter since because the guy wants a transaction relationship. You’re in a sense are indirectly endorsing those issues when you offer said solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:55 PM
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>Then professionals of the oldest profession is A GREAT SOLUTION. And we both know that there are plenty of issues with the oldest profession that you are indirectly endorsing when you offer such solution. >What’s getting you guys mad? Why are you mad that I won’t shut up about my dating complaints? Why are you trying to silence my voice? Again if you don’t like the reaction, change the actions. >You guys think dating women is such a fucking chore. Then don’t date most women. There are pros that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:14 PM
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>Then they need to STFU about their complaints. That’s the last thing I’m going to do with my dating complaints. Remember you’re not entitled to others ability to complain about their dating struggles. If you don’t like the reaction, change the action.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:06 PM
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>What is something about your dating life that you're embarrassed to admit publicly I’m not embarrassed to admit that I’m universally ugly and autistic. >but would gladly fix if nobody judged you for it? Except both things can’t be fixed.
/r/seduction09/06/26 05:21 PM
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This is an excellent question: https://np.reddit.com/r/AskMen/s/vcc1LbNQBK
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:33 PM
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Because I have immense anger and hatred towards God
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:14 PM
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No he won’t. Best I’ll get is a downvote from him.
/r/seduction09/06/26 03:24 AM
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>It feels like all the advices, pua infields, books I've read/watched numbed my brain and can't date as a normal person anymore. I always tried to be smooth instead of just being myself and out of my head. That’s probably the reason as to why you’re struggling. You’ve probably become robotic in a sense and women notice it. >But the thing that frustrates me the most is, I know a lot of guys from various friend groups who are total douches, socially uncalibrated and all the things mentioned not to…
/r/seduction09/06/26 01:24 AM
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Do you think it’s more so women are perverted privately where as men are publicly?
/r/seduction09/06/26 01:04 AM
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Yes they’re on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:01 AM
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>So conservatives can keep their kids inside and not go to pride. That’s basically the same thing conservatives tell regarding pride parades. >Is not having every space so fucking hard? Not if they think their space is being taken away from them or they don’t like what they see from the pride space.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:53 PM
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Do you think it’s ideal for children to be seeing those kinks out in public? That’s like the biggest thing conservatives criticize on from these parades.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:20 PM
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>If you (LGBT) try to change the culture, then you should expect push back and be able to defend why your culture should be well represented in society. I don’t think they do because they see it as a human right in a sense. Free will I think is the better word here. And anyone who opposes it is opposing free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:01 PM
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I mean a lot of women hate that June is Men's Mental Health Awareness Month. So it’ll be no different with Nuclear Family Month. I’m sure some already see the Nuclear Family Month as an attempt to enforce Christian values on people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:50 PM
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>You won't be labeled a creep or rejected harshly by girls for approaching them, because they like the attention. Both of those things have happened to me. >Most guys don't approach because they don’t succeed often, not because they care about girls feelings or they are considerate of everything. Why do it when you know it’s a guaranteed 100% failure rate? >Approaching strangers constantly is not a fun activity, but is actually demeaning. Nope it’s not fun. >Average guy's only option is to rely …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:17 PM
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It’s funny when someone says they are romantically and sexually treated like second class, people will try to change and control the narrative of said statement. Yet when said guy asks for proof that he isn’t being treated that way, they all of the sudden have just world fallacy for the said someone
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:20 PM
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Women already assumed the absolute worst about me due to being universally ugly and autistic. It’s not like me saying that changed women’s opinion on me. They already found me to be unstable way before I had that desire
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:04 PM
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Still using it. You gotta a lot of growing up to do still OP. I wish you luck with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:32 PM
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It’s official, we are in a women are always wonderful all of the time disease pandemic. We need a vaccine yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:25 PM
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And again you’re using just world fallacy on all blackpillers and men and creating many made up future scenarios in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:23 PM
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You’re the one who brought up school shootings not me. Not to mention you’re using the just world fallacy on me and other men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:18 PM
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And yet I have never once done or threaten to do such thing. Shoot the only shooting I want to do is to shoot myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:08 PM
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>At most a woman may gossip behind you or reject you, or call you ugly when you interact with her. But she doesn't go out of her way to harrass or to bully. Except they did when it comes to me. >I'm standing outside a restaraunt at 11 pm at dark and a random man shirtless with a hoodie just comes up aggressively to the restaraunt making everyone nervous. Does he understand he is rude, unwashed, unpleasant and generally a nusance? No of course not. He doesn't care that he is unpleasant. And I fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:59 PM
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Wasn’t there a study that basically said sex sells in a sense. Like when Hardee’s had Jessica Simpson on a classic car looking and wearing sex clothes while eating their cheeseburgers. Pretty sure their sales went up tenfold after that commercial came out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:19 PM
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People love using the just world fallacy on incels and blackpillers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:18 PM
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People love using the just world fallacy on incels and blackpillers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:17 PM
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Women along with media.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:16 PM
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Could you go your whole life with your own solitude? Like whatever moments or dates you have had with women don’t exist. It’s been nothing but your own solitude your whole life. >Danny DeVito had every reason in the world to give up, but he discovered what made him seductive and ran with it for over half a century. Celebrity examples aren’t as impactful as you think they are.
/r/seduction08/06/26 05:07 PM
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This post will go over well with women on here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:46 PM
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They’re going to keep rising among men since we now know women are only interested a very small amount of men. 30 will be the new 20 in that sense. They’ll probably be a slight increase among women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:50 PM
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The mods on here:
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:42 PM
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>Women have always been the source of BP. Yep. But this is a fact that women aren’t ready to discuss yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:36 PM
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Because it’s not. It’s just not a popular one among women. Not being popular doesn’t equal negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:31 PM
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Truth
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:47 AM
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Same here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:36 AM
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He’s gotten further with a woman than I ever have in my life. So he must be doing something right
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:35 AM
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I guess you’ll find out one way or another
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:34 AM
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I’m defiantly not. Most likely never will
/r/seduction06/06/26 04:51 AM
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Sounds like we would be better off making a law that says people can only date those within their decade/age bracket. Basically if you’re in your 20’s, you can only date other people who are in their 20’s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:11 PM
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Being myself has led to me being a 31 year old KHHV who’s never been on a first date.
/r/seduction05/06/26 05:12 PM
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True but that doesn’t mean they need to be buzz killington’s though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:47 PM
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I don’t have any personal thought to add anything to it. I’d just add the text of the article and post it. Which you can’t do with debate posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:25 PM
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Purple pill mods should start calling themselves Buzz Killington. Their presence is always unwelcome and they always purposely ruin the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:20 PM
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Yet I highly recommend you do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:14 PM
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Misandry along with women are always wonderful in effect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:00 PM
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https://unherd.com/2026/04/why-young-women-hate-men/?edition=us Text of said link: Why young women hate men Poppy Sowerby Some weeks ago, at the bitter end of a midweek drink, a friend and I found ourselves trying to talk a 24-year-old down from the edge. What seemed at first to be common-or-garden romantic gloom became, over half an hour on that dive-bar banquette, despondent fury: the problem was, she told us, that she just hated men. All of them without exception were inherently bad; anyone w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:58 PM
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Yeah well it’s only going to get worse with future generations. There’s no solution to this because it would require people’s freewill be impacted and that’s line we don’t want to cross
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:48 PM
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What if you’re a 0/10 in looks like me?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:12 AM
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Pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:33 PM
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It’s for reasons out of my control
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:32 PM
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https://www.psypost.org/how-relationship-power-changes-what-women-look-for-in-a-mate/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:32 PM
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One could argue that no one should listen to any advice given on here by anyone
/r/seduction04/06/26 05:17 PM
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I figured it was her defense mechanism when things aren’t going her way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:21 PM
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So why is your name neverTouchedWomen?
/r/seduction04/06/26 04:07 PM
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What else is new?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:52 PM
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Did anonymousppd123123’s comment really bother OP that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:50 PM
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Reading comments on PPD equals stalking? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:48 PM
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In my times I’ve talked or seen you commented, the last thing I ever got or saw from you was empathy. You may think you’re unempathetic to those who were unempathetic to you. But the truth is that you never had it from the get go on here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:46 PM
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Because you already lacked empathy beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:42 PM
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Yes. That’s pretty easy to see since many women are indeed dating misogynist men
/r/seduction03/06/26 08:28 PM
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It’s not men who need to experience an ego death but rather women who need to experience it. And quite frankly they need to experience it badly. But even then that’s probably not even enough. We basically need to start my scratch which means collapses across all fronts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:49 PM
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The men that used coercive tactics had a 70% success rate. So from an outside perspective it looks like the assholes are getting whatever they want from women. That’s the bigger takeaway from said study over OP’s post. We now can confirm that for men, being asshole (or have the tactics of one) is the better way to go about trying to have sex with a woman. That on average every 10 women you approach and be that way, 7 of them will want to sleep with you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:59 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKyqCZZsiYs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKyqCZZsiYs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:49 AM
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Sounds about right
/r/MensRights03/06/26 06:44 AM
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You are proving that you’re willing to talk about a majority of women based on a minority. And that is exactly what you are doing to men with your posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:56 PM
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And yet you act like every woman on there popped their balloon as soon as he did it. Yet when I tell hey there’s two women who didn’t, your all women are always wonderful sickness took affect and you twisted your perception to make it seem like those women who didn’t pop their did so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:38 PM
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Yes, you have reminded this sub that there’s proof that your posts are full of shit when it comes to women’s complaints about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:20 PM
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And yet if the result was the same with day 2 as it was with day 1, the last thing you would be saying is focus on the process.
/r/seduction02/06/26 06:01 PM
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The point is that women don’t care about men’s issues but except/demand men to care about their issues. Basically agree with everything they say regarding their issues. My way or the highway mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:58 PM
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Cause women have made it pretty clear that they don’t care about men’s issue while believing they are entitled to having men care or agree with their issues. It’s defiantly a my way or highway mindset. Why else do take offense to someone believing abortion should be outlawed, or women should be stay at home moms?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:40 PM
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None. Can’t cold approach anymore. Can’t warm approach. Nobody wants to set up their friend with their other friends, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:44 PM
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And? It’s not like women in their home country was ever going to date them. Women in his country already found him to be a loser back home before he became a PPB. So why be mad or give any attention at him for being critical of western women since you already see him as a loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:36 PM
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So basically doing the same thing that you always do with your posts. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:20 PM
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So your video just proved my point for me. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:14 PM
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Because women lie about those things through their actions. Nobody here is lying when a woman complains about her ex BF being bad in so-so way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:10 PM
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OP’s post is basically telling men to take accountability and choose better. Fair enough……………..so one question then: Why do women get very upset when they are told the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:16 PM
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Yet that doesn’t take away my point either
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:32 AM
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Oh but they quite are no matter how much you want to deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:17 AM
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Autistic men are exhausting for autistic women. Watch dating on the spectrum with an open mind and look how it affects the women. So why are those autistic women dating those autistic men? Surely it would bad for those to continue their relationship with them. Sure you might be one of those really rare autistic men that aren’t high maintenance, Because I am. but chances are you are only looking at it from your perspective and becoming resentful because you want the world to change for you instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:17 AM
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Autistic women also often end up in abusive relationships, they are easy prey for perps. It sucks but that’s how the world works. Check out autistic women’s subs, nearly all are alone too. Yet if I want on those autistic women subs and tell them they should start dating autistic men? How do you think they would respond to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:07 AM
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And still expecting these men to be ok with being excluded out isn’t the answer either
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:05 AM
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I mean not really I don't get hit on much, but it’s not really validating or a proof of attractiveness It shows that someone finds you attractive though. when my friend says she has guys asking for feet pics on her insta or men being creepy in general Those men found her attractive as well. They just approached in a creepy way. Men themselves have made their value low, they deem others being with them or receiving their attention as lowering value so no one wants a man's attention especially whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:36 PM
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Are you seeking out female peers (universally ugly and autistic) to date? Yes. They’re either asexual or aren’t interested in dating their looksmatch. They’re interested in ugly NT guys over ugly ND guys. Are you also willing to overlook these things? No to the ones who are asexual. I want said woman to be sexually attracted to me. But I also need to be physically attracted them as well. I can’t force myself to date someone I find unattractive the same way I can’t force them to date me since the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:31 PM
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But at some point, you gotta revisit the drawing board and find a different approach, no? Except there’s no approach out there that would help me. I’ve been back to the drawing board a shit ton of times with new drawings/approaches. Yet they all resulted in one thing: failure. Yes, it sucks. I'll say that as many times as you want to hear it to feel validated. So I hope you’re ready to say it for the rest of my or your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:31 PM
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Except people aren’t even hitting on me at all. They never have in my 31 years of living. Not even by people who I wouldn’t want to be hit on either. I’m betting you’ve been hit on people who you did and didn’t want to be hit on by.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:24 PM
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This wasn’t a a woe is me comment mods. This was a general statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:08 PM
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It’s still a literal hell to those who have put the best version of themselves out there and still not be good enough for anybody to say yes to dating. I personally can speak from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:50 PM
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I get the feeling you’ve never walked a mile in my shoes with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:46 PM
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It’s impossible to feel or believe you are attractive when absolutely no one hits on you. No one even tries to pursue you romantically while everyone else is around you and they have someone attracted to them. They have someone who romantically pursued them. It is literal hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:16 PM
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It’s impossible to feel or believe you are attractive when absolutely no one hits on you. No one even tries to pursue you romantically while everyone else is around you and they have someone attracted to them. They have someone who romantically pursued them. It is literal hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:09 PM
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Agree. Although it’s not just a gen z men issue either with gen z women. As a younger millennial man, trying to find a millennial woman to date offline is no better/worse than trying to find a millennial woman to date online.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:33 PM
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Do not be a coward about my questions boy. Answer them. Why do you think it’s ok for grown men who are Philly fans to spit on children? Why do you think the past never happened since you weren’t born in that time? Why do you keep trying to prove to me that you are a very deeply disturbed person who needs to be locked in a mental institution with the key thrown-away? Answer those questions first. I will continue to comment this exact same comment every single time you reply to me until you answer…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:06 PM
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Do not be a coward about my questions boy. Answer them. Why do you think it’s ok for grown men who are Philly fans to spit on children? Why do you think the past never happened since you weren’t born in that time? Why do you keep trying to prove to me that you are a very deeply disturbed person who needs to be locked in a mental institution with the key thrown-away? Answer those questions first. I will continue to comment this exact same comment every single time you reply to me until you answer…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:52 PM
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Men like me who are too ugly, too weird, autistic, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:45 PM
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Do not be a coward about my questions boy. Answer them. Why do you think it’s ok for grown men who are Philly fans to spit on children? Why do you think the past never happened since you weren’t born in that time? Why do you keep trying to prove to me that you are a very deeply disturbed person who needs to be locked in a mental institution with the key thrown-away? Answer those questions first. I will continue to comment this exact same comment every single time you reply to me until you answer…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:44 PM
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Do not be a coward about my questions boy. Answer them. Why do you think it’s ok for grown men who are Philly fans to spit on children? Why do you think the past never happened since you weren’t born in that time? Why do you keep trying to prove to me that you are a very deeply disturbed person who needs to be locked in a mental institution with the key thrown-away? Answer those questions first. I will continue to comment this exact same comment every single time you reply to me until you answer…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:39 PM
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And excluding those men from the overall dating pool and expecting them to be ok with being excluded isn’t gonna help either
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:37 PM
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And you just proved that you have an extremely severe cognitive bias to women and are deeply sick with women are always wonderful women disease. These two things need to be addressed before you ever post on here again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:34 PM
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Answer my questions first: Why do you think it’s ok for grown men who are Philly fans to spit on children? Why do you think the past never happened since you weren’t born in that time? Why do you keep trying to prove to me that you are a very deeply disturbed person who needs to be locked in a mental institution with the key thrown-away? Answer those questions first.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:29 PM
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Forget about dating for a second, we need to figure out if you believe the time before you were born did indeed happen. Or do you think the past is fake? I mean you admitted to being ok grown men who are Philly fans spitting on kids so I wouldn’t be surprised if you believe in this either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:21 PM
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How would this sub know? They watched a video of a man being disrespectful towards and saw nothing wrong with it. They also watched two women not pop their balloon after watching said guy be disrespectful to a trans woman. Yet you’re the only one who can’t see it. Why? if guys here can’t even detect obvious bad behavior, there’s no way they’re going to figure out when they themselves are acting poorly. Because I’ve had women tell me straight to my face that I’m the most hideous thing they have e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:14 PM
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So all someone needs to do is post a different pic of a couple kissing along with the same message before it becomes true? Do you feel the same way about things like cities being bombed before. We have pics of them happening but they haven’t happened this decade. Therefore it must not be true right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:49 PM
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Except it’s not a personality issue. It’s a look’s issue. Every woman would result in me aiming too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:44 PM
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How does the fact that I’m universally ugly and autistic equal me making dating harder for myself? It’s not like I cannot change the fact that I am those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:27 PM
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What is the male sex worker you want to meet is also an undercover woman hater?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:23 PM
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It’s still true regardless of who or when somebody commented on this. A 25 year old married person could have posted the same idea today and people on here and elsewhere would agree to it. They just live life and everything falls into their lap. One day they’re waking up in their apartment and the next day they’re waking up with their wife or husband sleeping next to them with their 2 children sleeping in the next room over. For people like me, we’re one day waking up in small apartments alone a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:20 PM
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No. It’s very very stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:15 PM
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<image> Brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:12 PM
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Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:13 PM
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What show? I don’t see a link in your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:51 PM
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>The idea that going to these types of things will increase opportunities to make friends or romantic interests with women is a fallacy. You can go to an event with 30 single women and leave with nothing. Women are not interested in men, they have no desire to talk to them. Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:39 PM
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And neither did those two women in the video either
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:29 PM
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>What do you think they truly prefer / makes them happiest? Women want their sexual fun with a small amount of men. But more importantly women want their sexual freedom. Now they finally have a chance to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:28 PM
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Because they have been respectful to women before (they weren’t always red pilled) and yet they saw women choosing to be with guys who didn’t necessarily respect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:26 PM
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0
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:25 PM
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It’s good enough in which many many women want to date them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:23 PM
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Women also assume the worse about you when you’re universally ugly and autistic as well.
/r/seduction31/05/26 05:46 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:19 PM
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Yep they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:18 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:16 AM
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None
/r/seduction30/05/26 04:03 AM
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I’m unfortunately universally ugly and autistic. I’m basically undateable everywhere on the planet
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:00 AM
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https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/politics-and-the-life-sciences/article/toward-individualistic-reproduction-solving-the-fertility-crisis-could-require-a-further-marginalization-of-men/F26A4750B666344157278B72CFC5D223
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:31 PM
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How can that man do that if every woman is saying no to joining him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:01 PM
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Brutal if true
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:20 PM
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Women say they do and most likely truly believe they understand how it might power the red and black pill. But I personally believe women don’t really realize and understand how much of their words and actions help power the red and black pill. Both of these pills have become mainstream in which more and more young men are agreeing to it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:18 PM
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Just because I’m not like everyone else around me doesn’t make me a bad guy or undateable. I don’t deserve to never have a chance at having dating and yet that’s exactly what’s going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:52 PM
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Yeah if I tried to harass a woman like you said, my ass is gonna be spending years in jail. Not basic jail either. More like state penitentiary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:27 AM
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You have my upvote OP
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:26 AM
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I talked to a forever alone woman once and she sent me a picture of herself. She was really pretty and I tried telling her that as well but she eventually blocked me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:24 AM
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Maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:23 PM
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I bet some do indeed where the woman is the giver using a toy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:18 PM
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I hear they do for their SO’s on international woman’s day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:11 PM
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I would guess the conclusion is that they are either dating older men or not dating at all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:07 PM
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But the sex act was with someone else not her current husband. There’s the possibility that she may like doing it with him. But she’ll never find out because she doesn’t want to try anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:00 PM
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Brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:59 PM
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Not that I don’t disagree with your post but don’t women say that attraction can build over time and how they used to know someone they didn’t find attractive at first but over time did find them attractive. The issue is that if all men did indeed not try to raise or build interest, the end result of it would be more older KHHV then there already is. Most women don’t find most men physically attractive so if they men don’t try to build interest, they’re gonna end up like me. Now I will say if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:54 PM
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Not unless your family/genetics has a history of anxiety issues. But I get your point.
/r/seduction28/05/26 06:40 PM
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It makes me think that she’s not interested in me and is politely rejecting me
/r/seduction28/05/26 05:50 PM
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Yeah. And once a divorced single mother (child is most likely 10+ years old), she would be interested in getting to know him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:37 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/malementalhealth/s/JN6uVYJsZp I had talked to the OP of this post and after speaking with him, I came to the conclusion that is a great example of what can happen to heterosexual guy who goes through life never being romantically or sexually desired by any woman in his lifetime. He’s got pictures of himself on his profile and her certainly doesn’t look like someone who would have an issue with women not being interested in him around his age. There’s no doubt that he has …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:09 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/malementalhealth/s/JN6uVYJsZp I had talked to the OP of this post and after speaking with him, I came to the conclusion that is a great example of what can happen to heterosexual guy who goes through life never being romantically or sexually desired by any woman in his lifetime. He’s got pictures of himself on his profile and her certainly doesn’t look like someone who would have an issue with women not being interested in him around his age. There’s no doubt that he has …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:42 PM
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Some women believe consent for sex can’t be bought with money. Not to mention with sex workers, most of them don’t actually want to have sex with their client but have to in order to survive or fuel their addiction. The human trafficking/sex slave concern is also valid with sex workers as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:25 PM
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I don’t think there’s many people out there who would disagree with your post OP. I’ve always said I wanted the same chances that everybody around me has gotten regarding a romantic and sex life. But I also realized that no such person has to give me that chance either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:14 PM
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The serial killers are than some non serial killers. I’m not a serial killer and yet I have a nonexistent romantic and sex life. Yet there are serial killers who indeed did/are. And yes I know dating and sex isn’t fair in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:07 PM
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Nope, that’s simple logic. If dating is voluntary, having a problem with it is having a problem with people’s choices and freedom So basically consent matters until it doesn’t. That my choices and freedom doesn’t matter but there does. You’re an option, in theory. Nobody is preventing you except other people’s lack of desire. Which is not unfair nor oppression Wrong. Never had a chance before I could even try. Never gonna convince me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:40 AM
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No, that’s why there’s criticism Bad faith criticism is what it is. Which is exactly what you are doing. Nope, rejection doesn’t require consent, and a chance doesn’t mean success So why does consent matter until it doesn’t? Still never got the chance from the get go
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:24 AM
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Why waste time and energy in wondering?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:21 AM
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We don’t, because we don’t want to Yet you have no choice but to. You had a chance as a male, but were disqualified because of your looks. No one but yourself prevented it Nope I never did. My consent was violated from the get go with this. Nothing you say is gonna change my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:17 AM
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There are a lot of non-Chad men who are intentional and want a loving, caring relationship but women just aren't interested Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:05 AM
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No, because we don’t want to Yet you have to. Again doesn’t mean you or anyone has to be with me in that way. That’s a chance and you didn’t pass the minimum No it’s not. I never had the chance from the get go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:03 AM
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You should respect people’s decision to not fuck you. Just like a large horny man should respect your decision not to fuck him And people should respect my desire to fuck as well. You’ve had chances, people just don’t wanna Nope never had a chance from the get go. Not my fault women find me universally ugly and assume the worst about me. Can’t force those chances either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:07 AM
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We’ll be agreeing to disagreeing with that. Nobody has to be with me that way but nobody should also expect me to be ok with never having the chance either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:01 AM
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Well your flair does say you’re a “Chad’s Mom”. But there’s nothing average or even below average about being universally ugly and autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:44 AM
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Selfish sure. But critical? Not sure if I fully agree with that. You can say you want a sex life but nobody ever has to be with you in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:31 AM
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The criticism I'm seeing most often now for sexually active women is that they have poor taste in the men they pick, because the guys that are attractive enough to have lots of success on dating apps have enough options to not worry about settling down. Same here. Online dating makes it easy for women to hook up with someone out of their league, but not get one to settle for them long term. Whereas men's experience is usually swiping endlessly on women who are seemingly all out of their league w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:18 AM
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I haven’t really heard any of guy saying those things before personally so I’m guessing it’s coming from the extreme side of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:16 AM
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Aren’t women the ones who harp about attraction being subjective for each woman? You would think that if a guy announces he wants those things, surely a woman be interested to get it on with him in that way
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:57 PM
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They believe the guarantee is already there way before they kill themselves. They have no evidence to believe otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:57 PM
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Do you think you’re asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:46 PM
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And there’s been many men who have or want to commit suicide because they don’t want to spend their whole life never having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:33 PM
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Why is it a bad thing for a man to say they want a woman to find him romantically and sexually desired and vice versa? Why is his desire for that always treated with disrespect and people assume the worst about him? Especially if he’s a ugly guy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:32 PM
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Ino was interested in Sauske but she eventually became interested in Sai who was for the most part an emotionless man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:00 PM
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So you want hookups in a sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:57 PM
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I swiped right on those I found attractive and also had things in common with me. Whenever I saw a woman who I thought was 10/10 in looks, I usually swiped left on them because I knew it was gonna be a wasted swipe
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:45 PM
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Yes because some judge out there said the companies were/are wrong in trying to stop the robber from robbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:40 PM
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When women are telling you very clearly that they do not want to be approached, you’re really wanting to have sex with them isn’t going to change their minds. I never said that approaching was going to result in a woman’s mind changing. All I said was that if a man wants to have a sex life with a woman, he’s going to approach until he finds one. Because if they never approach, they’re gonna end up like me as a KHHV since no woman is going to approach them. Your sincerely held desires do not crea…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:37 PM
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I guess it depends on each person. But there are some who go through life never having sex either.
/r/seduction27/05/26 04:11 PM
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Because there are many women who are or used to be single that never approached a guy and yet still had an expectation that the man has to approach them. Women have spend pretty much the entire 2000’s saying don’t approach us anymore because for so and so reason. You know what would happen if all men did indeed stop approaching? We have a lot more me as far as being older KHHV. Those men have a desire to have a romantic and sex life with a woman and if no woman ever approaches them, what other c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:00 PM
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I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what women wanted though. They didn’t like how ugly men kept approaching them but they felt like they didn’t have a voice that would have sent the message well. Once MeToo came out, that was the appropriate time to mention it. Shoot women don’t even like being warm approached either. They don’t want certain men to ever approach them no matter the time or place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:44 AM
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They’re becoming a lesbian or at least bisexual. I mean have you seen the r/WomenAreNotIntoMen subreddit and all of the examples of women not liking to hating men? Have you seen the studies that show women finding other women attractive but hardly any man attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:40 AM
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I’ve gotten 165 phone numbers, gotten 57 total dates (including instant dates and dates with my 1 girlfriend), kissed 5 women, and gotten 1 girlfriend/sex partner––who I was with for approximately 5 months before she abruptly broke up with me. (I very nearly had 1 one-night stand, too, but she changed her mind at the last minute). At present; 95% of the women whose numbers I get won’t respond when I text them, 95% of those who do respond flake on dates with me instead, non-instant dates are nigh…
/r/seduction27/05/26 04:01 AM
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Well, I'm interested in helping you. No you’re not. All you’re doing is giving me pity help. You have no interest in helping me and only say you are so you can get your gotcha from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:27 AM
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There are women who don't care about physical attraction, therefore you can still date. From my experiences and observances, that’s not true at all. Sure you may say how there’s an ugly guy dating a woman but that woman finds him physically attractive. All you do when you say it is reinforce the fact that I’m universally ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:23 AM
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Find kind people who help others learn to swim. They are out there. I recommend starting with a good book about relationships or sex if that's what you desire. I've personally found Crucial Conversations to be helpful. Come As You Are by Emily Nagoski is another good one that, while written for women, transcends gender in many ways. Read discussions of these books on Reddit and elsewhere too. There’s nobody out there who’s interested in helping me and quite honestly nobody can help a universally…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:53 AM
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Yeah that’s not the case at all. It’s not a state of mind or a self fulfilling prophecy and I certainly don’t choose be in this tier. I’m forced into it. I can’t force a woman to be into me. Since all women find me unattractive, I can’t date, therefore I’m forced into this tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:50 AM
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It’s hell
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:32 PM
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There’s also F tier: No woman will ever want to date you no matter how hard you try. Women assume the absolute worse about you before you could even approach them. That’s the tier I’m in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:36 PM
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I thought women hated using dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:34 PM
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I’d imagine they got it through their life experiences of themselves and others, reading books, studies, watching videos, listening to podcasts. Funny thing is that I agreed with my user flair due to the same things I mentioned above. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:32 PM
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Pretty sure the Bible says that homosexuality is a sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:08 PM
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Except we’re even kicked out of the kitty pool as well for being too ugly, too weird, neurodivergent, etc. But we still have a great desire to swim.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:32 PM
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Pretty much. I didn’t start agreeing to the things I agree to by staying in my parents basement 24/7/365. I started when I was touching grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:31 PM
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The problem is that for men like me, there’s no pool that wants us to swim in. And when we get mad for not being able to swim, the people who do swim are mad at us for being mad at not being able to swim.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:22 PM
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If you're an average man and cannot attract women for casual relationships, FWB situations, or NSA sex, then why is paying for it treated like some shameful last resort? There’s many reasons but one does include being seen as below others. It’s no different than the times of slavery, civil rights, nazism, etc. Sure those examples I mentioned included killing while seeing a sex worker doesn’t but the principle behind it stands. Seriously how much time, money, and emotional exhaustion are men will…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:34 PM
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This is after all how abusers find partners: overconfident, overbearing behaviour, sometimes combined with superficial charisma, passes as masculine for women who are susceptible to that. Yep. All of those who used to bully me are in relationships as we speak while I can’t even get a woman to say yes to a first date. This is how conventionally unattractive men can still find partners. They compensate hard with assertiveness and charisma (the second still arguably a masculine trait). Assuming the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:05 PM
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I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what women wanted though. They didn’t like how ugly men kept approaching them but they felt like they didn’t have a voice that would have sent the message well. Once MeToo came out, that was the appropriate time to mention it. Shoot women don’t even like being warm approached either. They don’t want certain men to ever approach them no matter the time or place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:23 PM
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I mean, assuming I found him neutral in attraction beforehand, I certainly would be open to at least talking to him and see where things go from there. Not every man who gets no attraction from woman is bad and assuming he is because no woman is ever attracted is textbook just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:12 PM
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First off: Are you personally doing ok? You’re not hurt right? Second: I’m sorry to see your truck go up in flames
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:43 AM
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Being a average man is no longer good enough to date
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:41 AM
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The red and black pill have become mainstream. There are different types of incels out there. The popularity Tate loss is going to lookmaxers content men. Roe vs Wade has been overturned. Some states want to make abortion a federal crime regardless how the baby was created (ex rape). There’s a growing number of men who want to eliminate gay marriage while there’s a very small but slowly growing number of men who want to eliminate woman’s right to vote. This “Chud” guy is accused of trying to kil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:12 AM
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Because it’s ridiculously not easy to date. Especially if you’re someone who’s short, ugly and/or neurodivergent. Most women aren’t even interested in dating a ND man. For some men (like me), it’s impossible to date. No matter what we did to increase our chances, no woman will want to date us. Somebody on here mentioned a post of yours of how you’re been getting ghosted and scammed from dating apps. I thought dating was ridiculously easy for you. It sure doesn’t sound like it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:42 AM
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Im 32 years old man with zero sex life. I never even had a real relationship with womens,but like womens. I tried many times but im rejected and failed i don't know why. I’m 31 myself in the same boat as you with decade plus of constant rejection as well. Just the way it goes. But reasontly i saw a news in my country" 19 years old boy had sexul relationship with 4 teacher different age gaps .and i had to think and reconsider why i can't find a woman. Why i failed sex game. I wouldn’t get jealous…
/r/seduction25/05/26 06:17 AM
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Many isn’t most, most men aren’t struggling virgins with zero dates. Most isn’t enough either. Idk you so I can’t tell if you’re ugly or not but uglier dudes have had sex and relationships and more than one.. I’m universally ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:32 PM
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Bro come on. Never happens to you does not mean never happen to men. There’s too many men out there that it hasn’t happened to either. Most men aren’t chads and most men aren’t virgins. No but those women found him to at least be neutral in attraction in their eyes. The door was slightly open to the idea of dating the guy. For men like me and others on there, women already find us ugly the second they see us.9
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:23 PM
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Because scenario 2 hardly ever happens for men whereas the red flags scenario 1 guy puts out either get ignored or never noticed because the woman is thinking with her vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:06 PM
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Well I would communicate with her as far as what she does or doesn’t like. I may ask why she wouldn’t like a certain way and maybe try to push back on one but if she’s dead set on not doing it, I respect it. But of course none of that matters when no one wants to be your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:55 PM
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Thanks OP. I’m gonna start using Femosphere whenever a woman created unfair criticism (which is a ton) on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:50 PM
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Quite possibly, yes. It’s not quite possible for some of us but rather indeed yes. It’s defiantly a yes for me and many other men out there.
/r/seduction24/05/26 05:39 PM
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I used to be ok with doing it but now not anymore.
/r/seduction24/05/26 03:32 AM
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Yep I’ve seen that to from women whenever they were interested in someone.
/r/seduction24/05/26 03:32 AM
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The problem is not recognition but “filtering”. If we see ourselves as unattractive or unappealing, it is likely we will miss signs we would have picked up if we believed otherwise. It’s also possible that someone who feels that way didn’t miss the signs because the signs were never there from the get go.
/r/seduction24/05/26 03:31 AM
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None of the kinks I think I have are intended to cause women pain or discomfort of any sorts. But if they are done for a while, they may cause some discomfort. But pain defiantly isn’t one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:21 PM
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Yet when that guy displayed a very obvious red flag that signifies misogyny, they kept their ballon while everyone else popped theirs. Peer pressure says they should have popped theirs as well. But they didn’t because they saw him as Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:37 PM
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I said those two women who didn’t pop their balloons personally see him as a Chad. I never said he was an actual Chad or not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:04 PM
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Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:59 PM
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There’s no universal agreement with the BP along BPillers. Each of us agree to it for reasons that are common among us. I started agreeing to it after turning 30 with a nonexistent dating life while watching everyone else around me have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:51 AM
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Not arrested but it’s very embarrassing and can make you very hesitant to try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:05 AM
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He’s both but at the same time, he’s still got a lot women ready to have sex with him on a given notice because they see him as a Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:04 AM
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Except for some of us, it’s not just a simple rejection though. It’s have the cops get called on us for even trying. Get kicked out of said place. Get threatened by others to physically harm us.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:54 AM
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Beer? Vodka? Rum? Tequila? Gin?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:50 AM
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Thinking about it a lot more often, women wouldn't be so opposed to the idea of hooking up if it actually guaranteed them safety, care, and human decency. I’m sure those things being a guaranteed would indeed result in more women being open to hooking up with someone. Except it still would result in ugly men being left out of being able to hookup with women. A lot of those men also want hookups as well and it only takes one to take away that guarantee for his sexual happiness. Basically my point…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:50 AM
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Let us hypothetically say there is a man who is in his late 20s or older and has never had one person of his preferred sex interested in him despite trying apps, going to socials, asking people out on dates, joining hobby groups- and for almost 30 years all he has received is rejection and zero interest from others romantically. Why do you have to describe me like that OP? But no I’m not and never will be entitled to a romantic partner. But it can be and sometimes is very very depressing to watc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:41 AM
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They aren't obvious thats why he's "chad". They indeed are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:43 AM
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The red flags are easy to see from Chads. And you don’t think women aren’t monolith with dating? I beg to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:00 AM
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Ah. That I did not know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:00 AM
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news but today isn’t my birthday. I just randomly put a date for this profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:47 PM
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Can anybody appeal the sentence for a harsher one?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:42 PM
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I’m universally ugly and autistic. Can’t change the autism part (I defiantly would if I could) but the looks part: the usual losing weight, grooming, different clothing, etc. I don’t except a future partner to ever be there due to no such woman finding me attractive existing in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:40 PM
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There are some NT people who would rather date a ND person for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:46 PM
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Several other autistic women. I just used the woman mentioned as an example cause she was on the extreme side to her disgust on the idea of dating one. The other autistic women just didn’t have any attraction to any autistic man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:52 PM
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They (ND woman I used to know) didn’t like autistic men that way and felt more related to NT men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:22 PM
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Oh but they indeed are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:53 PM
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I’ve seen quite the opposite over here. Even one of the autistic woman was quite disgusted with me when I mentioned the idea of dating an autistic man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:49 PM
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Those red flags from Chads are super easy to see. But like OP mentioned, women think with their vagina when they see one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:47 PM
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Some of the women I mentioned included autistic women as well. Unless you think them wanting to date a NT man is considered freaky.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:08 PM
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Except some have been treated that way their whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:56 PM
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No. I listened and watched to different types of women. Some women found attraction to those who were close to their looksmatch in a sense. But there’s nothing freaky about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:52 PM
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Especially from a romantic and sexual perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:48 PM
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From my experiences of watching and listening to women, I haven’t seen that to be the case at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:47 PM
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Re read my previous comment and understand why I posted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:14 PM
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I mean you didn’t need to respond. You could have seen the comment and moved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:08 PM
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Not from a human to human perspective but yes it is from romantic and sexual perspective. Especially if you’re someone who’s gone through whole life that way as well. It’s just that nobody needs/has to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:07 PM
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No. Just saying it out loud on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:03 PM
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It’s defiantly not fun for anyone to be romantically and sexually treated like second class.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:59 PM
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Pretty much. It’s not fun being romantically and sexually treated like second class by women. I know women are just as human as men are but I certainly want a woman to be interested in me in that way. Yet when you see women be interested in everyone around you in that way but you, you can easily get the feeling that women see you differently in a negative way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:28 PM
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You’re more than welcome to chase after women who think with their vaginas. No one said you couldn’t chase women who think with their vaginas. But just know that’s the type of women you like. All women at one time or another think with their vaginas when it came to being interested in someone. The disciplined ones come back to reality and look for the things you mentioned. So dating IS NOT a number’s game. It never was. So why are men lying and claiming that it is? Because they believe there’s s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:02 PM
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Most misogynists can’t hide the smaller social cues because they lack the social awareness and self-awareness to realize those behaviors are red flags. It’s just a matter of whether or not a woman sees it as a misunderstanding, a quirk, or indication of a bigger problem. Except women will have no problem ignoring those red flags because they personally find him to be a Chad. The best example ever: https://youtube.com/shorts/_ke-Ep2Gu1E?si=rGk7JeeixsvGtadw Case in point here. The two women who ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:49 PM
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Well like you said, it’s sundress season. Women always look pretty/beautiful in sundresses and when you know/see they are in a relationship or you can’t even approach them cause you’re universally ugly and autistic, it’s depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:16 PM
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Depressing times for men like me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:17 AM
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People should really stop accusing low value male virgins of objectifying women. Well people are going to continue doing it since people and society love to make fun of/bully male virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:16 AM
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I think I did once but otherwise no.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:12 AM
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People will notice. It’ll just range from not caring to being happy that’s it’s happening
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:50 AM
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Not really. If women aren’t even gonna let you talk to them because they’re already shutting down the possibility of those things due to height, autism, face, etc. that’s not a skill issue but rather bad luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:35 PM
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I did the day I turned 30 and saw everyone was either married, in a relationship with someone for years or dead. Every single one including the bullies while I became a dateless wizard that day. It was a swift kick in the balls on what was an internally depressing day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:07 PM
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Because people are drunk with the women are always wonderful bias along with women are always the victim bias
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:58 PM
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Have to remember that some of them have nothing to lose by complaining about it. Women were never going to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:51 PM
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It didn’t
/r/seduction21/05/26 06:50 PM
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Pretty much. But people (especially women) are going to say it’s a skill issue because the other answer will show that women are very very shallow in regard to dating. Most people (especially women) are significantly drunk with the women are always wonderful bias so the idea of accusing women of being shallow is a big no-no
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:02 PM
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It’s a extremely valid question that shouldn’t get the reaction that it does from women. Considering how women say dating is very dangerous and risky to them, they sure keep choosing to date shitty men. If you’re argument is gonna be those shitty men do a good job hiding it, my response is gonna be that women need to do a better job detecting it. You may that’s not fair to women to be required to such thing but so long as shitty men keep getting into relationships, women will need to do better a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:47 AM
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but i do think some subjects should deserve some discernment Says who? I never got that from anybody when I talked about my the subject of constant rejection from dating. So why should they get it but not everybody?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:53 AM
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Haven’t been to a doctor in 5+ years. But when I did, they never asked questions like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:48 AM
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if it’s not coming from a place of love than it’s better not said, and it’s never an appropriate response to someone sharing a story of abuse Why does criticism have to come from a place of love for women? Like this comment only provides proof to those who say women can’t handle criticism. I certainly never got that love criticism from women when I talked about my dating struggles. So tell me why women should.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:46 AM
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Ok so quick question: Why did the woman choose to date the shitty man?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:42 AM
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Think about what you just said…and then explain why it would ever be a good idea for any woman to be alone with, much less physically intimate and vulnerable with, any man who is or has the potential to become unbalanced enough that he would choose anger and hatred towards women and / or commit terrible crimes because women don’t give him what he wants… No woman has to do those things but at the same time, women already found him invisible or repulsive to begin with. He was someone that was neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:30 AM
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Considering how people have their first sexual experience in their late teens to 20’s, porn becoming a billion dollar industry, society loving the idea of sex that is seen through our shows, commercials, social media, etc. It supposedly was part of Maslov’s hierarchy of needs as well. Sex is indeed extremely important in our lives. We see what happens to people who never have a sexual life. Sure they live but it’s a very depressing life and the lack of it can turn to anger and hatred. We’ve seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:05 AM
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I’d bet the 30+ year old dateless, virgin males are a very small minority..like 10% or less. It’s less than even that. But unfortunately we are out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 07:15 PM
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Whatever the number women think it is is a lot higher than what the actual number is (unless their answer is 0-1)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 07:06 PM
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A man telling a woman she looks nice is not bothering her. My experiences tell me differently with this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:29 PM
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socially awkward and creepy aren't synonyms, just because you're awkward doesn't mean you are creepy. Many women would disagree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:19 PM
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Because blue pillers believe some of us should never have a romantic and sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:11 PM
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Yet those aren’t the fascists I’m talking about with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:09 PM
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I’m finally free from the fascists!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:08 PM
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From my experiences with watching women choosing the men they do and don’t date, it’s fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:07 PM
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Because looks has and always will matter more than personality and attitude. That’s not to say those things don’t matter they do. It’s just that looks matter a lot more than people want to admit.
/r/seduction20/05/26 06:52 AM
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They would be a little more open to me if I was good looking. But since I’m not, it’s assuming worse case scenario for me.
/r/seduction20/05/26 06:46 AM
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"ive talked to 50 women in my life and they didnt want to date me even though they didnt tell me why, but i am so smart that I can tell you with 100% certainty that these 50 reponses means that 4 billion women on the planet will ALL reject me as well. It’s way more than 50 but 10+ years of constant negative experiences is gonna result in you believing the next 10+ years will be the same as well. I have no evidence to believe otherwise. Do I want to believe otherwise? Of course I do. But third pa…
/r/seduction20/05/26 06:45 AM
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You can always block me. I won’t lose any sleep if you do so and I get the feeling you’ll feel much better when you do.
/r/seduction20/05/26 06:40 AM
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This is a fallacy. Your logic is "i dont respect your job so therefore what you say cannot be true." With PUA’s and dating coaches like yourself, yes. You can not respect the scientist who tells you that the earth is not flat, but it doesnt make the world suddenly flat. I respect scientists. Just not PUA’s and dating coaches. It isn't technically impossible for you to date or have sex. It is. Can’t force any woman to have sex with me. But it is FUNCTIONALLY impossible for you to date or have sex…
/r/seduction20/05/26 06:39 AM
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They can tell something is off about us but aren’t what exactly. Thus the fear of unknown kicks in and it becomes a fight or flight response.
/r/seduction20/05/26 06:30 AM
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To shit on seduction
/r/seduction20/05/26 06:29 AM
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Over half of my coaching clientele are autistic. Most level 1 but some level 2. And if you know what level 2 is, you know how debilitating that is. That's not "im awkward," that's "i cant live on my own because im a danger to myself and others around me." I’m aware. And those guys have all lost their virginity. We're talking 35 year old virgins who are 5'2", Asian, who live with their parents, couldnt make eye contact, monotone, and came to me not understanding that showering once every 2 weeks …
/r/seduction20/05/26 06:06 AM
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It's the same as me telling my doctor that I KNOW my cough is from throat cancer because I've been coughing for a long time now so that tells me it HAS to be cancer. And you respect your doctor right? The same can’t be said for me when it comes to dating coaches and PUA’s. Your inability to fix a problem does not mean it’s impossible because you cannot differentiate between impossible and difficult. In this case it is indeed impossible. Because these have outside factors to them that can’t be co…
/r/seduction20/05/26 05:58 AM
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If you don’t have them, you have to kick in the door. And that’s how I end up in jail
/r/seduction20/05/26 05:54 AM
1

Nuerodivergent
/r/seduction20/05/26 03:50 AM
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I'm not undermining your experience (or lackthereof). I'm undermining your uneducated opinion by POINTING OUT your lack of experience. Except it’s not uneducated opinion. It’s just an opinion that you don’t agree with. Theres nothing wrong with lacking experience. Everyone starts from somewhere. I started out a lonely virgin so no judgment from me at all. I do have experience. It’s just been nothing but negative experience. But there IS something wrong with claiming to know how women and dating …
/r/seduction20/05/26 12:44 AM
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If youve done a lot of cold approaches, you'd know that you can successfully open and "get your foot in the door" either by being very good looking, being her type, being very high status, or being charismatic. And when you’re someone who’s universally ugly and autistic, the door always stays closed. Women assume the absolute worst about me since they can tell something is off about me but aren’t sure what exactly. Often game/charisma overrides looks in those environments because good looking + …
/r/seduction20/05/26 12:37 AM
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Undermining my experiences with women defiantly isn’t the answer either. You may disagree with me but don’t discount my experiences because they are different from yours.
/r/seduction20/05/26 12:34 AM
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How is one supposed to get their foot in a woman’s door to show their personality? Literally, exactly the same ways a handsome guy will have to do it. He’ll need to go talk to someone, or meet them through a friend group, or class, etc. Except men like me aren’t even getting the chance to talk to women. Women already assume the absolute worst about me before I can even say hello to them. How will he get her to give him a chance, without great looks? Literally by means of any of an infinity of tr…
/r/seduction20/05/26 12:32 AM
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Not at all. But we do agree that women’s words and actions never align with each other and contradict each other.
/r/seduction19/05/26 11:14 PM
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I think you're confused with men, whom are able to decide in less than a second if they'd do or don't. Not at all. I’ve seen it plenty of times with women. They decide less than a second as well. Especially if you’re someone who’s ND. Women don't function like that. Yeah they do. You're projecting. No need for the insults.
/r/seduction19/05/26 11:12 PM
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Because it can’t. Those things can’t unlock and open the door for her if she’s already closed and locked the door because she didn’t find you attractive.
/r/seduction19/05/26 09:04 PM
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That assumption can defiantly be made for some but to assume that’s the case for all of them would be wrong.
/r/seduction19/05/26 07:02 PM
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i disagree. I wasnt a smelly homeless looking bum. When i said i dressed like a bum, i dressed comfortably (comfortable jeans, comfy shirt, etc). I did not distinguish everday clothes from going out clothes, i did not wear cologne etc. That’s not dressing like a bum. And again there are men who do wear going out clothes and put on cologne and still get nowhere because of their looks. You missed my point. My point is that looks wont get you the girl, but they will keep the door open. I promise yo…
/r/seduction19/05/26 06:45 PM
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I dont know where guys get this idea that women are shallow on looks. THey are not. Do they enjoy the top male body as much as we enjoy the top female body? Of course they do. They get it through their experiences. They get it through not even getting a chance to get their foot in the door. It’s not something that they come up with overnight but rather months and years of the same result each time. It’s not like every guy who’s experienced this a smelly homeless looking bum either.
/r/seduction19/05/26 06:29 PM
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For women, it only serves as much as to get your foot in the door. I mean you kinda contradicted yourself with this sentence. Because how is one supposed to get their foot in a woman’s door to show their personality and attitude of someone who’s dateable. If every woman is closing their door on you, your personality and attitude isn’t gonna open the door back up.
/r/seduction19/05/26 06:27 PM
1

Now you understand why BP and Lookmaxxers focus on looks so much.
/r/seduction19/05/26 05:48 PM
1

While you’ve been called both handsome and ugly by different women, there are some men like me who have always been called ugly by women. I’ve never once had a woman tell me that I was handsome or good looking
/r/seduction19/05/26 05:32 PM
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From my experiences, that isn’t true.
/r/seduction19/05/26 04:50 PM
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Because looks do indeed matter more than people want to admit to when it comes to dating. That’s not to say the other things (personality and attitude) don’t matter, they do. But looks are the thing that matters the most. If a woman already finds you unattractive from the get go, the door to dating her will already be closed and things like personality and attitude isn’t gonna make her want to open it. For some men like me, women’s doors are already closed way before we ever get to them and when…
/r/seduction19/05/26 03:42 PM
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It didn’t for me. I’m still getting constantly rejected by women while also never having a woman interested in me that way
/r/seduction18/05/26 03:48 PM
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So you’re basically saying you have no sympathy.
/r/seduction16/05/26 03:10 PM
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10+ years of constant rejection from asking women out on a first date.
/r/seduction15/05/26 06:36 PM
1

So you’re basically saying women words and actions don’t align with each other when it comes to dating
/r/seduction15/05/26 05:21 PM
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You’re gonna have a hard time finding someone who wants to be a wingman for a incel OP
/r/seduction14/05/26 05:25 AM
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The work on yourself and become an attractive version of yourself comes first, when you believe in yourself you are happy and guess what? People including women want to be around you. It’s a cliche cause it’s true. That’s not always true.
/r/seduction12/05/26 06:43 PM
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Sure
/r/seduction11/05/26 08:26 PM
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We’ll have to tolerate (existence of it) any and all negative feelings and emotions they may have towards women or anything for that matter. We have no right nor are we entitled to tell them how they should or shouldn’t feel about being excluded from something that everybody around them is included in (dating). Also telling incels to start giving to a community that has romantically and sexually treated them second class isn’t it either. There romantic and sexual desires matter the same as every…
/r/seduction11/05/26 08:15 PM
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You can do all of the things you mentioned on your post and still end up having a nonexistent dating life when it’s all said and done. Also
/r/seduction11/05/26 03:15 PM
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I personally don’t think it is at my age and everything but again that choice is up to you. If you think it’s worth continuing, go ahead and do so
/r/seduction09/05/26 06:01 PM
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No not really
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:50 PM
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No amount of practice is gonna help me since I’m universally ugly and autistic.
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:34 PM
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Ah
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:05 PM
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The entire earth
/r/seduction08/05/26 08:59 PM
1

Not really. Like I know any woman I would have been with was going to have more sexual experience than I ever have. I just don’t want her sex drive to disappear completely once she’s with me.
/r/seduction08/05/26 08:59 PM
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Who is “we”, and if it is for “some guys” Very below average looking guys, average to very below average neurodivergent guys, like you, describe what “like you” is. I’m universally ugly and autistic. I don’t say those things as putting myself but rather accepting who I am.
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:54 PM
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It’s not so much they think it’s a hallmark movie but rather just never giving up hope.
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:38 PM
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I hear a lot of people spreading the idea that a lot of men are MISSING opportunities with women by not approaching. The reality is they aren't This is one of the truths that dating coaches and seductions gurus have a hard time accepting regarding certain men. They truly believe that if you aren’t approaching then you’re missing out where the truth that for some guys like me, we’re not missing out on anything by no longer doing so. We have the evidence and experiences that tell us there’s no poi…
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:25 PM
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Is this the current state of dating many have recognized as being a drag? Pretty much. Have women’s expectations changed/become more stringent? They’ve become unrealistic
/r/seduction08/05/26 03:02 PM
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why not? youre the lucky guy that gets to marry her and have children with her! I don’t want to settled for and I don’t want to settle for either. There is also a sexual gap as well. She’s has had her fun whereas I’ve never even had a sexual life from the get go. I would want to have an active sexual life with her and if she’s no longer interested in sex, we won’t get along. everyone else was just a ONS. You, mr.special guy, get to be husband and take care of her forever! I want to be a woman’s …
/r/seduction08/05/26 01:13 AM
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No I’m not. Both of our opinions matter equally. Now does it mean people have to listen to mine and not yours or vice versa? No they don’t but silencing someone’s opinion because you personally don’t like it isn’t the answer either.
/r/seduction07/05/26 07:10 PM
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So you can't blame the place, because the place doesn't change anything. Never said I did. But I’m also not blaming myself for being undateable due to things beyond my control either. I was questioning whether you were sure you had enough experience. These are not harsh truths, just opinions. I do have enough experiences to share the harsh truths about dating overall. "The opinions of a guy who sometimes goes for runs on the weekend matter just as much as the opinions of a professional runner on…
/r/seduction07/05/26 07:03 PM
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Yeah, and what happened? Did your results change with the place or did you get rejected everywhere? Endless stream of rejection. No ounce of positive reinforcement from any woman at all in that way. See. Continuing to shun responsibility. Yeah because I’m not responsible for things that aren’t my fault either. >You sure? I’m very sure. The harsh truths need to be said out in public. I've gotten more total cold approaches in one month than you've been rejected in your entire life. Ok and? That do…
/r/seduction07/05/26 06:47 PM
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You can't make that conclusion unless you've tried it in many varying places. I've cold approached all over the US, Europe, Asia, and a bit of the Middle East. It's an excuse. Except I indeed have cold and warmed approached in various places. Maybe not as wide as yours as far as cold approaching in different continents and countries. But it’s enough to come up with them. If you keep blaming other things instead of taking responsibility, you'll never succeed at cold approach, no matter where you …
/r/seduction07/05/26 06:21 PM
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I'm terrified I'll be 30, 40, 50 and still alone, still bitter, still watching other people live the life I want. I see my future and it looks empty. No partner. No intimacy. No connection. Just competitive exams, a government job, and decades of quiet desperation. Well as someone who’s currently living the life you afraid to have, it’s not fully terrible in a sense. Yeah it’s defiantly hell and I don’t recommend you be like me in that regard. But after a while, you start accepting it and eventu…
/r/seduction07/05/26 05:41 PM
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Dancing is something I’ll never do out in public
/r/seduction07/05/26 05:32 PM
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I’m not interested in being a woman’s 10+th pick to be with after she has her fun with other guys, wants to settle down, have a family and shut down her sex drive. I selfishly deserve better than that from any woman. But again no woman is attracted to a universally ugly autistic guy anyway.
/r/seduction07/05/26 03:31 PM
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But the whole "women in my area don't wanna be approached" is an excuse. Not really. My experiences of trying to cold approaches always ended in disaster and it wasn’t much better with warm approaches as well. That’s why I have my conclusion regarding it. And no, your looks aren't what separates a good approach from a bad one. Cowardly guys just like to think that. It plays a bigger role than people want to admit too.
/r/seduction07/05/26 03:24 PM
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Warm and cold approach don’t really work anymore. Also my 10+ years of constant rejection proves it’s not a numbers game.
/r/seduction07/05/26 03:11 PM
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I never got a yes. The only thing my dating life knows is constant rejection
/r/seduction07/05/26 02:41 PM
2

Oh goodness no. 0 matches and 0 likes on the apps through the months.
/r/seduction07/05/26 03:14 AM
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Women in my area don’t want to be approached unless they find you hot and give you the ok in a sense to approach. Plus I’m universally ugly and autistic (saying it as me accepting it instead of insulting myself). so women already assume the worst about me since they can tell something is off about me but aren’t sure what exactly. Thus the fear of unknown kicks and it becomes a fight or flight response of sorts.
/r/seduction07/05/26 01:55 AM
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Although dating apps aren’t great, they’re my only option of having a dating life one day.
/r/seduction07/05/26 01:32 AM
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This makes sense if you’re being rejected in short term sense and then later on have not get rejected. If you’re someone like me who’s been gone through 10+ years of constant rejection from women, it’s gonna bother you until you get the yes
/r/seduction06/05/26 07:36 PM
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It’s usually less than a minute but instead of already finding out she does, it’s more so a neutral/open answer. The door isn’t fully 100% open for it but it also isn’t fully 100% closed either. Therefore other factors play a role into that door being fully open or closed. Now if she’s already closed the door within the first minute, you’re never going to have sex with her no matter the outside factors
/r/seduction06/05/26 06:29 PM
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Disagree
/r/seduction06/05/26 05:50 AM
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Same here as well
/r/seduction29/04/26 03:24 AM
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It’s not so much of being inferior but rather realizing that I just don’t have the it factor a woman wants from dating someone. Any negative assumption I believe is due to my personal experiences.
/r/seduction28/04/26 05:56 AM
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Well as someone who did waste their youth in the way you talked about in your post, there’s no point in wondering if you did when respectfully you clearly have. But that doesn’t mean your 30’s will be the same either though. Plus you don’t want to end up as a legit 40 year old virgin right?
/r/seduction27/04/26 10:36 PM
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This is where the black pilled idiots don't understand game. Even if you're bald, short and ugly, if your energy is fun, light and playful, if you make her laugh and lead the fun, she will open up and begin to consider you as a potential partner. From my experiences as bald, universally ugly guy that’s not true at all. Sure being that way helps out as far women being more open to chat and all. But if she already finds you unattractive from the get go, having that energy isn’t going to have her c…
/r/seduction27/04/26 09:18 PM
1

Yeah I tried that once and quit after the second day. Giving up at 21 is pretty young though IMO.
/r/seduction27/04/26 07:00 PM
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My drinking days are done. But even when I did, women still wanted nothing to do with me. No woman wants to date a universally ugly autistic guy.
/r/seduction27/04/26 06:53 PM
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Not short. Just universally ugly and autistic.
/r/seduction27/04/26 06:02 PM
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Well just remember that you’re not the only older virgin in the world or even on the seduction subreddit as well. I’m two years older than you and I still have my V card. Try to have a good birthday.
/r/seduction27/04/26 05:53 PM
1

Which is all the more reason a magic pill needs to be created.
/r/seduction27/04/26 05:49 PM
2

They want attractive men to approach them.
/r/seduction27/04/26 05:10 AM
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I mean, there's a lot of things we have to cope with in life, it's not a bad word. For example, if a loved one dies you have to learn to cope with it and continue on in life, that doesn't mean your pain doesn't matter, its more like...what else can you do? We find good quality solutions in which guarantee that death doesn’t happen anymore or a woman will find that man attractive. If we’re not interested in finding that solution, then we are ok with the revenge taking place. We tolerate it. I don…
/r/seduction21/04/26 07:15 PM
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That’s up to the individual. But the last thing we should be telling these men that their romantic and sexual desires don’t matter. We indirectly do when we tell them to cope with or be ok with it.
/r/seduction21/04/26 06:55 PM
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The anger and bitterness are there because of action of never having a chance. Telling him to be ok or cope with never having a chance isn’t the answer either.
/r/seduction21/04/26 06:49 PM
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All the more reason as to why women’s words and actions should align when it comes to dating. Again, read the energy not the literal words, and never take anything too seriously, none of this is ever worth getting angry over. That’s easy to say when you’re on the other side but if you’re someone who’s in their 30’s, still a KHHV, never had a woman interested in you and yet hear how every man around you experienced those things years and decade go, you’re gonna take it seriously and you’re gonna …
/r/seduction21/04/26 05:41 PM
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I'm a 5'4" Asian man. I am nobody's 8-10. And I have 20 years of infield proving that claim wrong. https://youtube.com/shorts/ltK3HHvHFv8 Your 20 years of infield shows that you were at least one woman’s 8-10. Here's what actually happens in the field versus what happens in your head. In your head, she sees you and decides in half a second that you're a creep because you're not a Chad. It’s not really a in my head but rather my own personal experiences. In reality, she decides you're a creep bec…
/r/seduction16/04/26 06:04 AM
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Here's what that actually means practically. An average guy, call him a 5, can move himself to a 7 through deliberate looksoptimization. Fashion fit and cut. A modern haircut that works for his face shape. Skincare. Staying lean. These things move the needle meaningfully and they're worth doing. Well that’s the issue though. A 7 is getting little to no attention while the 5 is getting no attention from women at all. While back in the day, a 5 and 7 was getting somewhat to decent amount of attent…
/r/seduction15/04/26 06:52 PM
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If I didn’t approach women, I would have a nonexistent dating and sex life. I still have a nonexistent dating and sex life even after approaching but I tried at least
/r/seduction15/04/26 06:10 AM
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Through my constant negative reinforcement from women over 10+ years
/r/seduction15/04/26 05:49 AM
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Over time I’ve come to realize that attraction is rarely just about physical appearance. Looks might get attention at first, but what really keeps it is usually something else — confidence, the way someone carries themselves, how they communicate, and the overall energy they give off. You kinda contradicted yourself with your first two sentences. You can be confident, have great communication and have great charisma but if they don’t find you attractive, you’re not getting your foot in the door …
/r/seduction14/04/26 03:58 PM
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My guess would be is because those coaches have or are starting to believe in it.
/r/seduction13/04/26 06:32 PM
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Be attractive on her eyes
/r/seduction10/04/26 08:21 PM
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Realize that most women aren’t interested in dating autistic men so you’ll have that going against you. Take part in the activities and events where it gets you meeting others and talking to others regarding anything except sexual.
/r/seduction09/04/26 05:43 PM
1

From my experiences, it’s all women regardless of their race for me.
/r/seduction09/04/26 03:51 PM
2

It used to be but that answer is slowly becoming no.
/r/seduction09/04/26 03:34 PM
1

Nope. Can’t pull no matter what
/r/seduction09/04/26 04:47 AM
1

No not really. It did help ease the pain from being constantly rejected. But it doesn’t do that anymore
/r/seduction09/04/26 04:47 AM
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I mean experiences also play a role as well. If a logical man’s experiences with approaching women is negative, the thoughts and emotions he’s gonna have are gonna be negative as well.
/r/seduction06/04/26 06:05 AM
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Overthinking is a part of who I am. Not to mention every time I had guts and approached it ended badly.
/r/seduction05/04/26 07:15 AM
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No point in asking. Even if he is telling the truth, a dating coach wouldn’t help me at all. Plus I bet he charges astronomical prices for his services.
/r/seduction03/04/26 05:10 PM
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its not helpful because youre more committed to the idea of things being hopeless than to finding a solution. It’s not helpful because I need first party evidence to believe in it. I have no reason to believe in it because of my experiences of constant rejections, negative reinforcement, no interest at all and watching everyone else around me have one. You want your shitty beliefs to be right more than you want to improve your situation. I want guarantees that if I do make improvements, a woman …
/r/seduction03/04/26 05:48 AM
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Prove it. Post your picture. I will be honest with you if you are so ugly that i dont think there's anything you can do. But I have yet to come across that situation. You can even DM me your pic if you dont want to post it publicly. Hell no. I already did that a few times and was rated a 0-1. I even posted on toast me and had people on there want me to post on roast me. I look like Al from Toy Story 2. Little skinner but older and uglier looking. Receding hairline, huge forehead, very oily nose …
/r/seduction03/04/26 03:08 AM
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Then what are you doing in this sub? This is a place for people to talk about how to be successful with women and if you truly believe you're hopeless why are you here? Cause I can and want to be. If you've given up, fine, but don't come and spread those bullshit lies around. NOPE. I will continue to post on here. If you don’t like it, bummer. Maybe I shouldn't be complaining because every guy that gives up is just less competition, but this defeatist attitude is so crazy. Can't imagine what it'…
/r/seduction03/04/26 02:42 AM
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You havent put in sufficient reps. I guarantee you. I have. It’s just that it always resulted in negative reinforcement. Half of my coaching program is autistic and often very below average looking. Makes things more difficult, but it's not impossible. That said, we have no current data on success or feasibility for level 3 autism, so if thats you (which i highly doubt, given your comment), the jury is still out. I’m universally ugly and autistic. Not very below average. Universally ugly. There’…
/r/seduction03/04/26 02:20 AM
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This is whiny bullshit and it's exactly what OP is talking about. Not really at all. If you walk up to a girl and you have this energy that "girls don't want guys like me" then you're completely right, they won't. Do you seriously think I had that energy when ai did approach women? No I didn’t. All I got was negative reinforcement when I did approach women. That’s what led me to believe what I believe in. You have to know that you bring value to the situation. Make yourself the kind of guy that …
/r/seduction03/04/26 02:15 AM
1

Third party evidence isn’t as helpful as you think it is.
/r/seduction02/04/26 06:46 PM
1

It’s defiantly true if you’re someone who’s on the ugly side and/or autistic side.
/r/seduction02/04/26 06:14 PM
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I’m universally ugly and autistic. I creep women out due to it. Women can sense something is off about me but aren’t sure what exactly. Since they don’t know, the fear of unknown kicks in and it becomes a fight or flight response of sorts.
/r/seduction02/04/26 05:11 PM
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Keep buying into Tik Tok propaganda, it’s serving you well. Yet it wasn’t Tik Tok propaganda that made me believe this. It was my own experiences of approaching women. Keep fishing for sympathy and ego support, nobody realizes it and if they do, dont worry, they definitely respect you. Best case scenario for me
/r/seduction02/04/26 05:09 PM
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You’re not automatically doing it wrong. Youre doing it wrong because you suck at it because you haven’t put in the reps yet. Except I indeed have put the reps in and each time I did so, I was met with negative reinforcement from a woman. Theres nothing intrinsically rotten or unattractive about you -- you just lack the reps necessary to be skillful at approaching. Do a few thousands reps and you'll see major improvement. I’m universally ugly and autistic. So yeah I am unattractive enough not to…
/r/seduction02/04/26 05:08 PM
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People need to hear the bitter truth over the sweet lies.
/r/seduction02/04/26 05:22 AM
29

Yet women still don’t want certain men approaching them either. Men like me for example.
/r/seduction02/04/26 05:15 AM
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Because no woman wants to be approached by those men. So for those men who try, they’re automatically doing it wrong.
/r/seduction02/04/26 05:05 AM
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For some men, just even trying to approach a woman is the wrong thing for them to do
/r/seduction02/04/26 04:59 AM
5

31 years old. Midwest state. 0. Not even a first date
/r/seduction02/04/26 02:12 AM
4

Pretty privilege along with halo/horn effect and a dash of just world fallacy
/r/seduction01/04/26 04:11 PM
1

Although you may be sad you only attract “5’s and 6’s”, remember there are men like me out there who attract no woman.
/r/seduction01/04/26 06:07 AM
1

This might sound cliché, but a big part of it is simply being yourself. Not in a forced way—just showing up as you are. They don’t need to know everything about you right away. Let things unfold naturally and allow them to notice the small things over time. Wanna know what that got me? 10+ years of constant rejection, no woman ever being interested in me and seeing everyone else around me get to date.
/r/seduction27/03/26 08:22 PM
1

Have you ever been physically fit in your life? I mean where you’re lean and muscular. At one time, yes. Didn’t change anything. Have you ever gotten a good haircut and skincare routine on top of being fit? At one time yea, but I got receding hairline nowadays.
/r/seduction23/03/26 05:51 AM
1

It's not the autism that's the problem, most women don't care if you’re autistic. It's usually the lack of social skills (specifically the non-verbal ones) that comes from being autistic and sometimes isolated or bullied growing up. But that's a solvable problem. It is my autism. Most women don’t want to date autistic men. I've got autistic friends (hell, I have ADHD and might be on the spectrum myself), they do fine with girls because they have developed social skills. The passion about niche h…
/r/seduction21/03/26 10:39 PM
6

From what I’ve heard, it’s significantly hard to date in western countries.
/r/seduction21/03/26 07:59 PM
2

None
/r/seduction21/03/26 04:58 PM
2

Well, it kinda stinks and is pretty annoying. Overwhelming, even. Because every single one hitting him up is someone he would never want to be with. If women he’s into or desired were hitting him up, those feelings wouldn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:46 AM
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It’s heartbreaking and it’s hell. I feel so lonely in ways that others truly don’t get unless they’re in the same position as me. Which for everyone around me, that’s not the case for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:40 AM
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Talking about dating is the closest I’ll ever get to have a dating and sex life. Yet my desire to have a dating and sex life is at an all time high. So debating is the best case scenario for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:01 AM
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Talking about dating is the closest I’ll ever get to have a dating and sex life. Yet my desire to have a dating and sex life is at an all time high. So debating is the best case scenario for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:00 AM
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Women either find me invisible or repulsive regardless of it being on here or in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:05 AM
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I’m either invisible or repulsive to women whether it be IRL or on here. My point is that no woman wants to date me regardless of political preference because I’m universally ugly and autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:03 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:09 PM
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Except no woman regardless of their politically affiliation wants to date me because I’m universally ugly and autistic. So debating and arguing about dating with liberal women is the only option I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:06 PM
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How can men expect to be a woman's first choice when they didn't meet each other earlier? Well there is this concept called restraint. People don’t need to have their first sexual experiences with the first person they find hot in their teens and 20’s. They can easily wait until their 30’s and 40’s like how some men have to wait. They can control their libido the same way ugly men are expected to control theirs. Besides a man being a virgin past a certain is huge red flag for women and will make…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:12 PM
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They want to a woman’s top choices. All of us had or still do have that desire at one point in our lives. I had that desire as well but had to let it go after realizing women around my age aren’t going to be a virgin. The best case scenario for me was finding a woman whose body count was around 3-5.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:00 PM
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I just realized that the last time I had a woman in my car that wasn’t a family member was all the way back in high school. And the reason she was in it is because we had to leave the school to go pick up for something for student council. If I wasn’t in student council that, I would have never had a woman outside of my family in any of my cars before. God that’s really depressing realization.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:47 PM
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Which would make sense for a virgin man wanting to have sex with a virgin woman. You’re both are going to learn what you do and don’t like and what to lookout and remember if a next time happens. Also how are virgin men supposed to gain experience if no woman (regardless of their body count) wants to give them that experience? You certainly can’t buy anyone’s consent. So how exactly are they supposed to get it? Someone will say well improve yourself and keep trying until you do find someone who’…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:34 PM
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Well women have also mentioned that they don’t really like getting approached either anymore. Especially if you’re on the uglier side in her eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:33 PM
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Sorry OP. Unfortunately you’re not gonna get much sympathy on here.
/r/seduction20/03/26 04:10 PM
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Have you considered plastic surgery? You need to get yourself to at least a 2/10 first before you start worrying about the autism part. Wouldn’t help
/r/seduction20/03/26 02:55 PM
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Sad to hear of Chuck Norris passing today. Was fortunate enough to meet him and get a handshake from him years ago <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:37 PM
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I do find it hard to imagine that anyone can be a 0/10 without some sort of diagnosed deformity or major accident that ruined your face. Maybe post something on /r rate me to get a 2nd opinion. Rate me comments were giving me 0/10 scores across the board.
/r/seduction20/03/26 07:36 AM
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I'll be a realistic. If you're really ugly then yeah you're in trouble even if you don't have autism. The point of the post is that autism alone isn't a disqualifying factor in dating and there are ways to work through the shortcomings caused by autism. Except most women aren’t interested in dating autistic men though. If you can elevate yourself from a 1/10 to 3/10 through gym/glow ups then you have something to work with. I’m a 0/10 in looks. Gym and glow up wouldn’t help. If you're like liter…
/r/seduction20/03/26 05:19 AM
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Somebody is getting fired in the background checking department from ABC. Shoot the entire background checking department is most likely getting fired. The million of dollars ABC spent videoing, creating, editing, etc the show and now they have to cancel it less than 72 hours before the debut.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:00 AM
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Eh men have to be both. It’s just a delicate balance of how much of an asshole you can be/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:56 AM
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Plenty of negative experience before phase 3-4. Getting dumped for being clingy, friendzoned, and blowing it up by physically escalating at the wrong time. Some of these cases are so painful I still get anxiety 2 years later when thinking back on it. Respectfully you didn’t answer my question. The positive reinforcement only started coming in after brute forcing a large quantity of dates and addressing my insecurities. Going on lots of dates with people you find attractive but not quite up to yo…
/r/seduction20/03/26 04:50 AM
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I would imagine it would be places where it’s socially acceptable to approach. But there’s no doubt that if you’re an ugly guy, you can’t approach women anywhere. Otherwise you’ll be labeled as a creep
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:36 AM
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I’m pretty sure most women are indeed ok with how the current dating market is right now. They have little to no reason to not be ok with it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:26 PM
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https://x.com/people/status/2034721686684389508?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:23 PM
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Eh not really. Sure dating was tough back then as well but it’s nowhere tough as it is now today.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:31 PM
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So you got/get positive reinforcement from women after doing those things and now you believe it. Would you still believe in the things you believe if you only ever got negative reinforcement? Would that answer change if it worked for everyone around you except you? Because an an autistic person who’s done the things you mentioned, I still have a nonexistent dating and sex life and yet I’m 7 years older than you.
/r/seduction19/03/26 05:30 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:15 PM
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<image> Fucking brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:15 PM
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Unless you can transform the dating world back to the 2000’s era cultural circumstances where the dating environment was highly accessible, the answer is that there isn’t a way. Not every problem has a solution. The best thing to do is for people needing to be understanding and tolerant of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:59 PM
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Yes. It ended up being a disaster due to my autism.
/r/seduction19/03/26 05:34 AM
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Being critical of women’s dating preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:52 AM
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Rejection is the way forward guys. You need to seek out more rejections!!!! If you got at least 100 rejections last year, good. You are on the right path! Yeah after 10+ years of constant rejection from women, I’m overstuffed of rejections. If take one more bite of it, I’m gonna throw up cause there’s no more room left. And as we all know, the more you shoot your shot, the more you score!!! Yeah that’s not true at all when it comes to dating. Rejections lead to learning, and learning leads to im…
/r/seduction18/03/26 10:13 PM
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Because common dating advice is absolute dogshit and needs to be called out.
/r/seduction18/03/26 09:09 PM
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Haven’t you had casual sex before though? That certainly shows that at least one woman sees you as good enough to have casual sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:03 PM
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You’re still tolerating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:52 PM
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Yet you still have to tolerate those consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:46 PM
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For who? A society that seems him nothing more than an asexual and aromantic worker drone? Or for women who treat him romantically and sexually as second class? Yeah that’s not gonna convince those men to do that. If you think that’s unfair to women, then read your post again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:21 PM
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I think most people realize that dating is indeed not fair. But the thing I’ve seen people (particularly women) struggle to realize is that because of this, there are consequences that will always happen no matter how much you try to censor them. Unfair in dating has and always will be an action. For the men who’ll never get that chance, any potential negative emotion, feelings, and/or actions they do against women has and will always be a reaction. If women don’t like the reaction of those thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:22 PM
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/brock-bullies-sex-1.4487053 Brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:01 PM
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https://techfixated.com/why-some-people-never-have-sex/ “Lower grip strength, leaner arm muscle mass, and wearing glasses from an early age were all significantly associated with sexlessness in men, but not in women. The researchers noted that focus groups in earlier studies had identified a consistent pattern: people who wore glasses as children reported being called “nerds” or “geeks” during adolescence and perceived themselves as unattractive during those critical early years of social and ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:41 PM
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Looks are generally rated between 2.5 and 3 out of 10. I am an unfortunate man. Sorry OP
/r/seduction18/03/26 04:52 AM
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BRUTAL <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:38 AM
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Problem is for that there’s men out there who’ll never the guy for any woman out there. 4.13 billion women will never see him in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:31 AM
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Not surprising considering who he is and all. Even with that, women still wanted to go to his party
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:27 AM
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But what is fair? What if she did something and hated it. Why would you expect her to deal with sex she hates just to be "fair" to you. Because you’re assuming that the act of that certain sex position is going to result in the same feelings she has with her new BF/hookup she’s with. It’s basically like saying a 2 dollar hamburger is going to taste the same as a 200 dollar hamburger. Thats like saying "you tried broccoli in the past. I know you hate it, but it’s my favorite dish. So, to be fair …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:26 PM
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Are they competing for her, Yes or are they just trying to get famous? Yes It depends on who you’re asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:54 PM
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https://x.com/harrisonkrank/status/2033930906067436008?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:05 PM
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I’m interested in hearing you explain the victim complex conclusion you’ve come to, please 🙏🏾. the only possible victim is the person being called an incel and even then, it’s prolly true so they’re not even a victim of anything. You’re standing up and supporting bullying. You’re standing up for the men and women who start the bullying and then protecting them from any rebuttal that comes back. what is this clothing thing? are you just projecting? sorry to burst your bubble but you’re not gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:35 PM
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negative comprehension skills 🤦🏾‍♂️ LMFAO the man warrants the insults with his actions and then assumptions abt virginity come afterwards. Ah yes the actions of wearing clothes that they are comfortable in but makes him look nerdy. The action of them having to wear braces, glasses, or having hobbies that are on the nerdier side. Yes those actions. You for example, are exhibiting the behaviour of the “incel” archetype with your comments, whether you’re a virgin or not doesn’t matter, people are …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:14 PM
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If you are not a fun person to be around, then nobody will have fun with you. You can be a fun person to be around and still have no one wanting to hook up with you. This brings us back to the point of getting out of your own way. You are rejecting yourself, before a girl has a chance to. Except I’m not at all. I was rejected by 9 of the 10 girls I approached back when I was single and looking. But guess what? Oh so you were getting yes’s along the way. What if those yes’s you got were all no’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:59 PM
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Ah so you make gross assumptions about them to justify you laughing with the guy who makes fun of the virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:48 PM
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Having sex is not difficult, Disagree. Trust me, nobody is too ugly for sex, Completely disagree with this notion. get out of your own way and find a girl that's on the same page as yourself. One that is just looking for fun, they are out there. They may be out there but if nobody wants to have that fun with you, you’re not gonna have that fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:12 PM
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And guess who’s laughing right along with men who make the insult? Women. Also how do you know that it was men who started off the insults of it? What proof do you have of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:03 PM
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I would imagine it’s mixed results for each person. Some do end up finding someone and break that pledge while others stick to it. Although I haven’t given up, I accepted that no woman will ever be attracted to me when I turned 30 and have a nonexistent dating and sex life. I’m 31 now and that notion continues on to this day. I always keep wondering what it would be like to be sexually and romantically desired by a woman. But that’s just not gonna happen. Really the only thing I can do is contin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:42 PM
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I have seen plenty of commercials online for this product: https://try.cupids.com/gg/products/hypnosis-3?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21194881597&gbraid=0AAAAAplV04ITEKzaByq3HMkLGa1QagQ2P They advertise it as if you’re a guy who wears this and are around women, a woman will have the hots for you and want to bang you right there. Of course with all commercials, they exaggerate and I’m sure this one is no different. But let’s pretend that what they show in the commercial does indeed happen. Let’s s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:41 PM
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I don't ask that. Dude what. Just because you don’t doesn’t mean every woman doesn’t either. They would more be upset just because oral for women is seen as important but not because he has done it before. Not really the same thing as say the man wanting anal because she has done it before. And what if anal is important for that man who wants it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:34 PM
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You are volunteering that information willingly. Usually men have to probe and ask women about their past to find out what they did before. She doesn't just tell them. And if she asked me about my sexual past and I tell her, is that any different than what you’re mentioning. You gave a reason why you don't like it, she shouldn't expect the same thing. Is that how you really feel about this? Cause I’ve seen posts similar to what I mentioned from women and those women were getting support and sayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:16 PM
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It all goes back not wanting to be treated as a second class citizen of sorts with anybody. It’s no different with dating. We all want to have a chance to be with a woman and be treated fair across the board. If I was in a relationship and I told my current GF how I used to give head to my ex and how much I liked doing it. Yet I also say that I got tired of doing and won’t be giving head to my current GF, how do you think the current GF? I bet it would be the same feelings that the men you’re co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:08 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:24 PM
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31
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:06 PM
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And yet: https://np.reddit.com/r/dating_advice/s/L3HNgUFceV
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:36 AM
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May as well call yourself a sex tourist then. Otherwise no it’s not.
/r/seduction17/03/26 04:25 AM
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50 dates in 6 months screams he’s above average guy to me. If he had went on 1/5 of the number of dates he went on, then I would agree about him being an average guy experience. If anything you have showed us that the above average men are struggling badly as well. If they’re struggling as much as they are, what does that mean for the true average and below average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:15 AM
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Why would a woman who loves sex so much that she slept with 10 guys get into a relationship with someone she hates having sex with? Like what is the logic in thinking that. Because she did those things in her young and fun years. But the young years are done and it isn’t as fun as it used to be for her. She wants to raise a family and start a new life. She’ll have sex to birth children but after that, she’s wants to be celibate for the rest of her life. A woman that sleeps around for "sexual fun…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:45 AM
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I do regarding a FT job and my hair is super short and receding.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:40 AM
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First off my condolences for the loss of your friend. Give yourself some time to heal as well. To answer your question: He looks like he was below average on the looks side. He was going to have a hard time finding (if any) a woman who would truly be interested in him. Apart of me wonders if he realized this and decided he didn’t want to continue on with life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:39 AM
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It still sounds like it’s very very little. You say he’s unpleasant yet we both know or used to know people who we thought were unpleasant and they all have a dating and sex life. You talk about his living right now but we also both know that there are people worse off dating right now. Finally you mention he’s unattractive. That’s probably the thing that’s hurting him the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:20 AM
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It sounds like even before he’s in his current position in life, women still weren’t interested in possibly getting to know him and potentially date him. I’m guessing his dating and sex life has been pretty much nonexistent. It’s probably a reason as to why he’s at where he’s at in life. Honestly it sounds like there’s no advice that would help. Sure you can tell to self improve for himself and all. But I get the feeling that women still wouldn’t be interested in him because of his looks even if…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:01 PM
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Sounds like you have a weak immune system. I don’t know how you feel about taking vitamins but taking Zinc will help out with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:03 PM
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But the virginity does play a role in it being high though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:58 PM
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Pretty much. A woman has to have at least neutral (she doesn’t find you ugly but she also doesn’t find you hot) attraction towards you. If every woman you come across finds you ugly, it would be pointless to try and change their minds. Your personality and attitude won’t change their minds.
/r/seduction16/03/26 07:53 PM
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With all of the events you attended, how many of those events did you actually want to go to? I’m guessing the number is 0 and it seems like everyone there noticed as well. It’s the same feeling I have about them as well. Thus I don’t go to them. Because of my nonexistent romantic and sex life at 31, I want to go somewhere in which women will see me in a dating and sexual sense like right off the bat. I’m guessing you have the same feelings regarding it. I hope you find it one day OP
/r/seduction16/03/26 07:48 PM
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It just mean y’all will have to work harder to prove y’all self to suitors. And yet comments like yours only decrease the chance of said suitor(s) being interested in them. “But it’s unfair!” Not really the bar is low just don’t be weird about it. Spoken like someone who’s never had any real issues with dating. The bar is absolutely high for some of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:08 PM
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And no man wants to be in a relationship with a woman who would act that way. Especially one who’s had little to no sexual experiences. Seems like you’re starting to understand why being husband material is considered bad for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:06 PM
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Assuming every virgin is and would be like that isn’t the answer. It’s already bad enough being an older virgin. Assuming the worst about them will only make it worse for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:03 PM
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Undermining the fact that these things do happen (more frequently than people want to admit to) isn’t the answer either. So long as this keeps happening to men out there, the fear of it happened to a particular man is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:59 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:51 PM
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There are so many examples of men who had little to no sexual experiences being settled by a woman who had her sexual fun before being with him. Her body count is 10+ guys and at her point in life, the last thing she ever wants to do again is be intimate/have sex. Even sex/flirting talk depresses her in a sense. So things like dead bedroom, resentment, anger, etc are happening within the relationship. Would you rather be the husband material for her or the hookup material for her? It seems like …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:06 PM
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What's a recurring pattern in your dating life, It’s nonexistent and what do you think it says about you? That I’m universally ugly and no woman would ever want to date me because of me bing universally ugly and autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:23 AM
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No but I was never expecting it to help me though. My sex life was a lost cause way before I into the BP side of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:21 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/the-asymmetric-brain/202603/being-attractive-makes-men-happier-than-women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:40 AM
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We all just want a chance to have a have a dating and sex life. But women are only interested in a certain percentage of men. Which means that some men will never get the chance because they aren’t that certain percentage of men. If dating was fair and every guy had a chance of having a romantic and sex life, your post would have never existed. Of course women hate that idea of giving every guy a fair chance so that’s never gonna happen
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:15 AM
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There’s nobody out there that wants to live a life with a nonexistent dating and sex life. Yet throughout history there have been men out there who did. It was hell for most of these men and the stories they leave behind make realize that we don’t want to go through those things either. Yet for some of us, we will die with a nonexistent dating and sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:09 AM
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If his girlfriend is having sex with him on demand, why is she packing condoms for him when he travels? Why is he cheating on her regularly if he gets "sex on demand"? It seems like he has an endless appetite for sex. An appetite that I thought would have made any and all woman hesitate to be in a monogamous relationship. But for his GF, it didn’t. Why? 🤔🤔 I'm saying that men shoot themselves in the foot with their ridiculous manosphere beliefs. And I’m saying the reason those men started to bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:46 PM
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Sounds like a movie name (I’m assuming it’s not).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:03 PM
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Pretty sure they’re more concerned about the declining birth rates over the number of single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 08:54 PM
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Yes there is. You're demanding that someone else do something they likely aren't interested in at the exact moment. No woman has to give in to that demand though. It’s why consent exists. But it seems like that women the podcaster is sleeping with have no issues giving into that demand. Maybe if most men weren't saying, "nothing wrong with wanting sex on demand". Men ruin things for themselves. It's not women's fault that they are rightfully turned off by most men who think as described. Oh plea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 08:47 PM
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You’re assuming there’s good help out there that result in those men having a dating and sex life. It’s been made quite clear there’s no good help with that. I mean you really want these men to spend the next 40-50 years having a nonexistent dating and sex life? And don’t say it’s not important. Having an active dating and sex life is very important for almost everybody on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:45 PM
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Yes. Especially if we live in a world that isn’t fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:32 PM
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Don’t stop them from pulling the plug on life because of it (assuming they truly want to pull the plug). Accelerate the progress of having ai robots be made easily available for any and all men in this. Tolerate their negative emotions they have. and respect their desires. Doesn’t mean you have to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:19 PM
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I mean we’ve already seen what that looks like and how society reacts when they get to that point. There’s defiantly a fall back in line belief for these certain men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:43 PM
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It's amazing how society nonchalantly expects certain men to be nothing more than asexual and aromantic worker drones and be totally ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:30 PM
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Not surprising but still brutal
/r/BlackPillScience13/03/26 04:20 PM
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Women do if they find you attractive. If they don’t, then the last thing they want you to do is approach them.
/r/seduction13/03/26 03:36 PM
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Haven’t women said they are more ok being lonely and don’t need a man in their lives? Like they want their sexual freedom badly over being with someone they’re not attracted too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:32 PM
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I discussed recently with a guy who worked his ass off to get a girlfriend but never succeeded. This is something that should get talked about more often than it does (as far men who did try to increase their chances but still got nothing.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:22 PM
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Except there isn’t someone out there for everyone. There has never been a time in history in which every single man and woman has someone out there who wanted to be romantically involved. Some of us just aren’t meant to have a dating and sex life. There are 60+ year old men out ther who are still virgins to this day. These men will die a virgin as well. Not from the lack of trying, but due to things beyond their control. Dating wasn’t a numbers game for those men and quite honestly, dating won’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:46 AM
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A ton have mentioned that they just didn’t find me attractive. Some saying they weren’t ready for a relationship (with me). Some saying they had BF which I didn’t know beforehand. Some were quite disgusted that I even tried with them. So it’s as close as one can get with completing exit interviews with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:40 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:18 AM
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It’s gonna be necessary in the future if not already
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:07 AM
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I'd bet anything it's not your looks that are the problem. No it is due to my looks. It's your defeatist attitude. Result of 10+ years of constant rejection and negative reinforcement with my dating life.
/r/seduction12/03/26 07:23 PM
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There's ugly women out there for ya Who aren’t interested in dating ugly men since they have no attraction to. You put in the effort and you will improve, nobody said you're going to be prime Brad Pitt after hitting the gym for 2 years, but you can go from a 0.1/10 to a 0.5/10 im of the belief that clothes and gym give you at least a +3 each. I'd say 99% of people could hit at least a 6/10 and thats without charisma or money. You can also put in the effort to increase your chances of someone fin…
/r/seduction12/03/26 04:58 PM
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Ugly women want to be with men they find attractive. They don’t want to be with ugly men since they have no attraction towards them.
/r/seduction12/03/26 04:35 PM
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Except there are some men out there in which they are just simply too ugly to ever date. Like they put in the effort to increase their chances but nothing ever worked.
/r/seduction12/03/26 06:26 AM
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I used to but not anymore.
/r/seduction12/03/26 03:49 AM
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There’s someone out there for everyone.
/r/seduction12/03/26 03:18 AM
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Most PPB would tell you to stay and live in the country of where you met your SO
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:36 PM
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I wonder how women would feel if these roles were reversed. Would they have the same feelings that men have now regarding it or would it be completely different
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:17 PM
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Well the thing about never having a chance at having a dating and sex life is that I’ll never have and never cheat on anyone. I’d like to think that I would never cheat if the opportunity ever existed but since my dating and sex life are nonexistent, those kind of questions are still a mystery to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:14 PM
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Black receding hairline, very large forehead, very oily (sebaceous filaments) nose (tried skincare, doesn’t help), buttchin, dead looking (like I’ve given up on life eyes) brown eyes with one eye being lazy. Can’t really grow a good thick beard either. I look like I’m in my 50’s even though I’m in my 30’s. Like Al from Toy Story 2. Skinnier but older and uglier looking version of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 04:26 PM
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I know there’s no right style for a universally ugly guy like me. Anything I wear I make look ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 03:41 PM
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Every face can work with the right styling, outside of very very rare cases like congenital malformations I’m a real life example of this not being true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:26 AM
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Agree. And there are reddit posts of women doing this as well. Of course not all women do it but a good chunk do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:26 AM
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I wouldn’t say almost only. I’d say looks are a bigger deal than people want to admit. Like 75-85%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:32 AM
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Yet for most, it’s not the reason as to why they’re single. It due to their looks. Respectfully with my experiences with this, my opinion isn’t gonna be changed because of a redditor’s experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:41 PM
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It could be both but it’s obvious that women do see them repulsive in a romantic and sexual way. I bet for most, the reason they are repulsive doesn’t have to do with their attitude or personality at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:25 PM
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Except these single men are getting 0 matches on dating apps and are getting negative reinforcement from a warm approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:03 PM
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And if they don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:02 PM
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It’s amazing what positive reinforcement will do for single men. They’re finally seen and heard as romantic and sexual beings. They finally found a woman (even if AI) who didn’t see them as romantically and sexually invisible or repulsive. https://www.psypost.org/therapists-test-an-ai-dating-simulator-to-help-chronically-single-men-practice-romantic-skills/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:49 PM
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But to have trauma from not dating in itself is weird. Undermining the fact that it does for those people isn’t the answer either. Like I have friends, both men and women, who are my age, and never had relationships and are virgins and who aren’t traumatised from it or feel the need to make analysis about the opposite sex. They’re sad that dating is difficult, sure. But it ends there. It sounds like your friends are doing a good job hiding their true feelings around you regarding it. It doesn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:16 PM
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Besides not caring about what and how others react, OP has a point: https://np.reddit.com/r/malementalhealth/s/Hel9UoWBa8
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:36 PM
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Design choice 1: ENTIRELY remove women's ability to proactively send out likes to men. We know they can't control themselves and just go for Chad regardless of their own league which will lead to unfavourable outcomes. So here, all potential matches will be iniated by men, women can only accept or reject. (This emulates real life as men typically make the first move) Any woman who might have been interested just lost that interest when you announced this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:33 PM
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I don’t know. I just guessed as the reason. I could be way off of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:11 PM
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I don’t know. I just guessed as the reason. I could be way off of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:11 PM
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I’m guessing it’s not so much as being submissive but rather not being as independent as they are. I could be totally wrong with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:38 AM
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I never hear of the word neg before so I had to look it up. This seems like something that both women and men do to someone. Especially if that someone has slow self esteem or could be easily swayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:36 AM
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Explain my N count You found women who would be willing to with autistic men. That’s why I said most women. Not all. It's not hard to be decent looking It’s impossible when you’re universally ugly. Except blackpill makes you repulsive and discourage you from seeking connection Women already found them repulsive. When they did try to seek connection, they were met with nothing but negative reinforcement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:30 PM
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Unofficially around 13-14 (family business). Officially around 17-18.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:24 PM
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Autism isn't a problem, you either mask or find hot autistic girls Except most women don’t want to date autistic guy. The ratio of women who would vs the number single autistic men is way off. Eventually women will be able to tell when one is masking not. Beg to differ You can’t if she already finds you ugly. Your personality and attitude won’t win her over if she already finds you ugly beforehand. Blackpill is about refusing all hope, it's a slowburn death cult Third party hope isn’t gonna do s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:13 PM
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The only things you can't change about you are your bones and your dick size You also can’t change women’s attraction and the autism as well. And I've seen men with bad both of those pull women Statements like this doesn’t create any hope whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 05:20 PM
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I think with the right kind of work, it works out, with very few exceptions. The bar is super low for men. Even with the right kind of work, failure is still the higher option than success. Also those very few exception men desires still matter as well. I'm not talking about going to the gym, that's easy work and it yields small results as a consequence I figured. Still doesn’t change the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 04:55 PM
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But we also have to acknowledge that in dating, a guy may put in the hard work (as equal or more so than you) and still result in no woman being attracted due to things beyond their control. This isn’t like HS or college where if you study and work hard, you’ll get good grades. Dating is one of those things where a person can easily be as strict as they want to be with who they do and don’t want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:41 PM
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It’s pretty clear that women’s attraction isn’t as subjective as people think it is though. There are patterns out there that show us what exactly women do and don’t like and what it would take to date a woman. Men observe these moments and try to do these same moments so that they have a woman be attracted to them as well. The issue is that a lot of men are failing even after trying to mimic those moments in their own way and they are failing due to reasons beyond their control. Telling those m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:37 PM
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Society loves the overall concept sex and loves to bully people who are different in a way that’s considered bad. Also just world fallacy
/r/MensRights09/03/26 06:49 AM
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Well first one would be actually being legit physically attracted to me. The attraction can’t be based on what I provide for her. But the thing is that I want to be with someone who’s willing to go though my good times, bad times, ugly times, awkward times, etc and be there for love, support, happiness, comfort, etc. I want to be for her times I mentioned as well and be there for her as well with those things. I also just touching each other in a sexual or non sexual way. Things like just cuddli…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:39 AM
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Yikes to those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:55 AM
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I have had all 5 of those things for a very long time. I still have at least 4 of those things going for me and yet no woman has ever been attracted to me. No woman wants to date me because I’m universally ugly and autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:53 AM
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Do you really believe there are women who are invisible and don't get any attention from men? Yes. Although I don’t think it’s many though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:20 PM
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I think her look match guy is a worse case a 6, best case a 8. Not a 10. I don’t know. I’m not really allowed to have attraction to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 03:47 AM
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It still doesn’t negate my point either. There’s expectation that those who never get to have sex should be ok with it. As someone who’ll never have sex involuntarily, I’ll never ever be ok with never having it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 03:45 AM
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Yeah I’m gonna disagree with you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 03:42 AM
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Yeah no shit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:55 AM
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Do you expect to get sympathy on the debate subreddit? I ignorantly did at first. Now not so much. Being ND definitely makes dating a lot harder. It’s impossible when you’re universally ugly and ND.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 11:05 PM
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Posting about your nonexistent dating life on Reddit doesn’t change the fact that you have no dating life. I never expected it would change. Best case scenario I had expected was getting sympathy but even that’s tall ask. Getting out there and meeting people in real life would be more helpful. This assumes that people (especially women) would even be open to the idea of meeting me. Where you’re universally ugly and autistic, you realize that they’re more close minded for you vs if I was average.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:29 PM
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I’d be even more isolated than I already am and since the only way and I’d truly lose the only way I can have a dating and sex life. Talking about dating and sex are the only way I’ll ever have such life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:21 PM
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I’m pretty sure men and women want someone who words and actions are consistent when dating. So if a woman says she wants to be with a good guy but her actions have her being someone who isn’t to her, then people are going to criticize that woman for contradicting herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:42 PM
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When it comes to someone talking about their dating life or any sort of PDA, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:27 PM
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I’m curious to know what the men she went on dates with look like. Apart of me believes she’s getting ghosted by Chad’s and gets the ick from her looksmatch men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:19 PM
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They believe that no woman will ever want to be with them. They come to that belief based on their first hand experiences of constant rejection. To see someone like them have someone interested, it shows that they are unique in a negative way. That someone exactly like them has someone interested makes them think they are even worse than they thought. It’s how I realized that I was actually universally ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:13 PM
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It’s to show that the traits you think are holding you back might not actually be the reason you’re struggling, or at least that they aren’t the death sentence to your dating life. Except it’s doing the exact opposite. It reaffirms those traits to them. The intention maybe good but the result is the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:14 PM
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For Tinder users: https://www.newsnationnow.com/business/tinder-age-discrimination-lawsuit-settlement/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 05:59 PM
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I look forward to the day when people realize that giving men who have a nonexistent dating life and want one third party examples of someone like them or worse having a dating life will only make them feel even worse than they already do. These men need a first party example of a woman being interested in them. All you’re doing is making them feel even worse beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 05:51 PM
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There isn’t somebody out there for everybody. Some of us will end forever alone
/r/seduction06/03/26 04:34 PM
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So you got positive reinforcement with women due to above average looks. Now do you believe the results would have been the same if you had very below average looks to you?
/r/seduction06/03/26 04:33 PM
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Fucking brutal for him. https://np.reddit.com/r/SikeOrPsyche/s/fLpEZVgaYg
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:49 AM
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Sounds about right
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:47 AM
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He is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:45 AM
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It’s amazing how going to an area where you’re romantically desired by the women there creates a big confidence boost for each man that can show up in other aspects of their life. But of course, they’ve should have never gone there because they’re just all sex tourists. They need to stay in their home country and watch everyone around them have a dating and sex life. /s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:44 AM
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They (PPD) desperately need blackpill mods as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:38 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/SipsTea/s/qtvEGokoGy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:36 AM
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I always ask women that if the ugliest guy they ever met who also has a fantastic personality asked you out on a date, would you say yes? Almost all women tell me no they wouldn’t. It’s the case here as well. Those women are dating guys they found to be attractive. Sure some people may question why she’s attracted to whoever but no woman wants to date someone they think are truly ugly. Which means for some men, no woman will ever want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:15 AM
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Not at all. Consent matters across the board. And the respect that consent brings with it should matter for both sides as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:33 PM
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Nobody is stopping you from going to get that billion dollars. Women are stopping me from having a sex life since no woman is attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:27 PM
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I can say that I don’t consent to not having a sex life without actually forcing it someone to have it with me. But at the same time, I’m being forced to not having a sex life either as well since no one wants too. Consent matters across the board. It’s just that one side of consent doesn’t get the same respect that the other one should and that IMO is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:24 PM
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Women say their sexual and dating consent needs to be respected. Completely fair. Yet if I said I don’t consent to not having a dating and sex life, that same respect goes out the window for me and I would get blasted by women for saying that. It’s quite funny when you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:07 PM
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Have you gotten banned yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:41 PM
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Therapy isn’t going to change his mindset though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:37 PM
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Except there are plenty of examples of men who did work on themselves for the better, play the game and still come away empty handed due to things that can’t be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:04 PM
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Seems pretty clear that women wanted nothing to do with OP in regard to dating and sex way before he became this way. OP didn’t develop this attitude overnight. This is the result of years of constant rejection with his dating and sex life while most likely watching everyone else around him have on. An attitude change isn’t going to change anything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:01 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/Left_wing_Rainbow/s/GtUXOciC6g
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:28 PM
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you can’t attract someone you like, you deal with it: improve yourself, stay single, or settle. For people like me, the options you gave are impossible or piss poor. Anger and being critical are 100 billions times better than the options you presented. And even if you do improve, there’s still no guarantee you’ll get what you want, and you still don’t “deserve” it. That’s blackpill talk. Your post basically says that leagues do indeed exist and that’s a good thing. You just said it indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:34 PM
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Can I ask...how long have you been feeling this way, Over a year. there must have been a time where a woman fucked this up...or you saw something,heard something that changed your perspective of women... Constant rejection from asking women out for 10+ years, no woman ever being romantically and sexually interested in me while watching every single guy around me have a woman feel that way about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:31 PM
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They love the idea of the movie but would hate it if that’s what happened to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:59 PM
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Also ugly looks can’t override having good social skills when talking to women.
/r/seduction05/03/26 05:08 AM
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so of course you will always have a horrible experience....women run from you man... YOU GOTTA LEARN TO FUCKIN LISTEN🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yes due to universally ugly looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:05 AM
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Well atleast you seem better today. Honestly the user flair doesn't bother me. You don't understand women and it does make someone shallow to only go for appearance. Goodluck to them when they're old one-day... It's gonna be a hard reality then. Yet I do understand women and I understand how they see me from a romantic and sexual standpoint. And goodluck to anyone who wants to give you a chance. Shes gonna need great balls on her chest to deal with someone who knows her better than she knows her…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:04 AM
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Absolutely no one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:39 PM
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Question for everyone: What will the red, blue and black pill look like… 20 years from now? 50 years from now? 100 years from now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:37 PM
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Except people also see homeless people (especially homeless men) as subhuman as well. A homelessness man and an older virgin man are seen as subhuman in different ways. Yet people have no issue contradicting themselves regarding helping out the homeless men not be homeless over the older virgin man not be a virgin. Also why did bring whataboutism into this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:23 PM
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Good to hear that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:59 PM
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infact i am jealous of an almost rapist i know ( I helped stop him) who despite being an abhorent human being is married and has a child. what lesson am i to learn form that other than me at my most valiant and brave self is worth less than that troglodyte? And I guessing you never got told thank you for stopping him from doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:54 PM
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One you're probably more ignorant than ugly. Not at all Careful not to be ugly on the inside. Have you read my user flair? And PERSONALITY AND ATTITUDE do make her more attracted dumbass. No they don’t. And that’s ok to admit on. It doesn’t make you or anyone else shallow for admitting to this. Bro is tryna play fucking counter strike when a woman is just tryna help him understand women better. I already understand women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:33 PM
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They can't start at a negative level omg...you don't just hate someone for no reason or there's something fucking wrong with you man or woman ..and don't hate all for one jeez. My experiences with women have told me otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:29 PM
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We live in a society where absolutely love sex. It’s evident based on people experiencing their first sexual moment in their teens or 20’s, the billion dollar porn industry and the fact that sex sells. It’s pretty clear that men who don’t get to experience sex ever are romantically and sexually seen as subhuman in society. Now is it done with intent? No I don’t believe so. Does anybody need to fix this? Of course not but this doesn’t change the fact that we are seen in that way. That we are noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:22 PM
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Cause people (especially) blue pillers see complaining about not having sex as entitlement of sorts. There’s defiantly a belief among people that those who’ll never have sex should never complain about not having it. They should be ok with never having it and if they aren’t, then that reeks of entitlement in their opinion. Also funny how article mentioned about incels ideas growing more popular in 2019. It’s fair to say that these ideas have become mainstream in 2026. I wonder how the author fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:53 PM
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Define why she can't be attracted to the man Because he starts on a neutral level. Level 0 and his behaviors? determine if he goes +1 attraction or -1 attraction. Because these men aren’t starting at neutral level of attraction. They are starting off on a negative level. My point is that women would stay single forever over be with someone they’re not attracted too. A guy with a ugly face can have a great body vise versa....and fat guy can be extremely intelligent and funny...so how do you think…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:52 AM
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Are you sure you’re not talking about pretty nice guy boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:26 AM
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I'm sure you'll find someone you seem.decent enough.... You don’t know what I look like and even then if you saw my face, you would retract this statement. Attraction is created by personality and style And looks Not just physical features and confidence in being you which makes you unique to a woman No but looks has and always will matter the most. You wouldn’t date someone who you had no attraction to regardless of confidence. I have never met a man who was so ugly I wouldn't date him. Yes you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:26 AM
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They (women) would be more than happy staying forever single over being with a man they have no attraction to or fine creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:14 AM
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Military aggression and mobilization. It was safer for men in countryside and other countries. They wanted to be safe. Ok. I know some Russian’s have mixed opinions on what’s going on with that and I wanted to see how you felt about it before I continued. I used to think that I had some objective flaws which couldn't be chanhed. But after that I realized that it's all relative and perception might change and be changed. Also I underestimated how much good women can value kindness, empathy and po…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:06 AM
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Most women are not okay with that and would like to try to change their loneliness to relationship. They just have more safety risks, so they have to be more cautious. They more comfortable having to live a life like that if they have too. That was my point. I used to think like that until 2022 happened in Russia and many men left my city. Suddenly I started getting more matches and more dates. Overall most women still wanted to have a family and were frustrated by lack of suitable men who are n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:47 PM
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And how many of those women died alone while also having a nonexistent dating and sex life? I’m sure there’s some but as many as men? I highly doubt that. That was my point when I said some men will have no choice but dying alone. They die and have a nonexistent dating and sex life involuntarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:43 PM
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Except women are ok with the possibility of dying alone. Especially if they’ve been burned before. Men? Not so much. But the truth that some men (like me) will have no choice but to die alone because no woman will ever be attracted to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:25 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/memesThatUCanRepost/s/2RYOsfHqFv
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:51 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/s/icXU6nXwpV
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:26 PM
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Even if women admitted that it’s their problem that they find only 5% of men attractive. How many of them actually care about having this problem? I would imagine it’s less than 5% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:00 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/bmuuvmli1vmg1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4146878d3aade565d1608f2351daa8d4dff09ccd
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:53 PM
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I know the title is spicy but I actually don't mean it is as pejoratively as it may sound. Well the women on here would disagree with you on that. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:51 PM
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It sounds like those men may have been interested in you. Or maybe they are guys that feel like they always gotta help. When i was in a foreign country, a guy was also acting like a puppy after i asked for book recommendation in the local language. he would constantly sit next to me after this. I had to sign the attendance list, and he immediately handed me a pen WHEN I ALREADY HAD ONE in my hand. I brushed it off. But when i lended him a book, i was 100% done. He was like a puppy wagging its ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:17 PM
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Those 6 or 7 women most likely see you as a 8, 9, 10 in their eyes.
/r/seduction03/03/26 06:07 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/SikeOrPsyche/s/UohWMItK3P
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:50 AM
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Confidence lets you talk to people and flirt. Confidence leads to asking the girl out which leads to dating. And that confidence gets killed if he’s faced constant rejection and never have a woman interested in them. But then you have to follow through. Being confident gets on the doorstep. Not really. Being attractive in her eyes is what gets you on the doorstep and opening the door somewhat. If anything confidence keeps the door open but it can’t open the door for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:36 AM
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https://x.com/alpacaaurelius/status/2028599810719391926?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:12 AM
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Get rid of the misandristic posts and these things won’t happen
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:40 AM
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No there aren't. If you think you've done everything right and tried everything you go back to the drawing board and figure out what you did wrong. Yes there is. Especially in the sense of dating. Any guy can self improve (basically follow the usual advice down to a T) to hopefully increase their chances of having a woman interested in them. But if every woman finds him ugly, then his self improvement didn’t increase his chances. There’s no reason to go back to the drawing board because he’s exh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:08 PM
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There's always a reason. Yeah and those reasons are I’m universally ugly and autistic. Also, if these are all cold approaches, it's no wonder. You need to work on making friends and getting a social circle first. You need to work up slowly to it. Warm approaches over cold approaching ALWAYS. It was a mix of cold and warm approaches. Trying to rush through things to 'getting the gf' is going to work against you. Well that’s where I’m at and going to be at until I get a date. I’m tired of everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:01 PM
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Too many to count that all resulted in constant rejection over a time period of 10+ years. Also never had a woman interested in me at all. The subtitle signs women give out were/have never been given to me. But I sure as hell saw them be given to everyone else around me. And yes the ugly women also rejected me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:51 PM
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If anyone kept falling and scraping their knee and still can’t keep their balance much less start riding, they would have given up. It’s no different here. Constant rejection and negative reinforcement isn’t healthy for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:39 PM
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Don’t make guarantees you can’t keep.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:19 PM
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There's nothing illegal a man can do that will help him be loved though So if he says he’s exhausted all options, he’s exhausted them. Telling they haven’t is advocating them to do any and all illegal things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:19 PM
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What if a guy has exhausted all of his options that are legal? Like there are options out there any man can do in order to have a dating and sex life but they are illegal to do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:05 PM
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Same here. No amount of therapy worked either
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:25 PM
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Yes. 100%. It’s why I get pissed off when I get told I haven’t tried everything when I indeed have. I don’t know why people think I haven’t tried everything since I haven’t gotten the results I wanted. There are moments/times in life when you can do everything right or try everything and still fail. Yet people can’t accept that idea with dating for some reason. have these things helped you? have any of them made a drastic difference? No not at all. Women found me either repulsive or invisible be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:24 PM
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Yes. 100%. It’s why I get pissed off when I get told I haven’t tried everything when I indeed have. have these things helped you? have any of them made a drastic difference? No not at all. Women found me either repulsive or invisible before I started doing those things and even after doing all of those things, women still found me invisible or repulsive. It’s when I realized my struggles are due to things beyond my control. It also made me realize that I’m universally ugly and no woman wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:14 PM
3

Some good PR work for the blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:38 PM
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What about classic survivorship bias? Nonexistent. Especially since how most men usually end up with a woman down the road. There aren’t many 40+ year old virgin and relationshipless men out there. What about all those times when men said you need to get jacked (and they themselves was) but that only brought attention of men and not women? They usually had women wanting to with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:27 PM
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I don’t attract any woman so the pattern I notice is that I’m universally ugly.
/r/seduction02/03/26 05:08 PM
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It’s hell
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:05 PM
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Women’s advice and actions often contradict each other. Women may tell a guy struggling with dating to be confident and be himself. Yet when he does become those things, no woman wants to be with him. Why? Because he’s too ugly for them. Whereas with the successful men, their words of advice and action don’t contradict each other. If a successful man says you need a 6 pack of abs, be emotionally intelligent and have a good career in order to get with women, their actions back up their words. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:05 PM
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Proof? Where’s your proof with your post? All it shows that you’re an extreme misandrist because a guy you liked didn’t like you back and you haven’t gotten over it. Ah. The Motte And Bailey tactic! Ah. Deflection!! Answer the question. This isn’t time to be a coward about this. Answer the question. Projection. I agree. Your post is a projection of you being an extreme misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:48 PM
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Let me be the first one to tell you that most women are indeed using their bodies to soothe the egos of insecure men. What you don’t think the men who you (women) sleep with aren’t insecure about anything? If so, then I have a beach condo in Montana you can buy. Those men just do a better job at hiding it and their insecurity may have nothing to do with their romantic or sexual side. Yet still having sex with a woman still soothe that insecurity they have. If your response back is “well at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:33 PM
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Never had a OLD match
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:46 PM
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Im universally ugly and autistic. No woman has ever been attracted to me no matter what I do to increase my chances. Since no woman wants to be with me in that way, I’m stuck with a nonexistent romantic and sex life
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:38 PM
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I’ve never romantically hugged, hold hands and kissed a woman. I’m also a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:20 AM
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There were none there. Everybody was coupled up around me except me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:18 AM
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I’m supposed to go to a concert on Saturday and I wish I can make up some sort of legit excuse to not go. Seeing everyone around me coupled up (including the couple I’m supposed to go with) but me along with never having a romantic or sexual moments makes me really depressed nowadays. I really I can find a legit excuse. So I ended up going to this concert and at least 75% of their songs was about sex in some way. So that was an unexpected kick in the balls for me as a 31 kissless virgin. Especia…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:12 AM
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Well this is one way to end the month of February. It’s gonna get nasty in the Middle East.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:39 PM
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There’s nothing I can do to increase my chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:39 PM
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They’re either being taken advantage, taking advantage of the women or the women there find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:27 PM
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Yeah they got their chances. A woman found them attractive. This doesn’t negate my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:19 PM
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Be a passport bro? The results would be the same because again universally ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:13 PM
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Thoughts? https://x.com/westsidelaguy/status/2027448206238654847?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:11 PM
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He was below to very below average but not universally ugly. Also he isn’t autistic (I might be wrong on that) and I’m pretty sure his wife was from Argentina (third world country). He basically became a passport bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:09 PM
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No. I will always remain bitter that this is my life. I along with no one else don’t deserve to be in this position. My dating and sex desires are just as important as everyone else. If my desires can never be fulfilled then my bitterness is justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:50 PM
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No universally ugly and autistic man has had success in their dating and sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:48 PM
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Maybe. But you’re talking to someone who’s realized no woman will ever be attracted to him (me)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:12 PM
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As long as both sides consented, sex is sex. A persons weight is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:51 PM
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And yet it still shouldn’t be impossible for a man to have a dating and sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:45 PM
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Well first no teenager should be into blackpill. Yes I’m aware a good chunk of blackpillers are teenagers but that doesn’t negate my point. But that indeed what’s happening when no one is interested in him because of a bad jawline. Especially as he gets older (late 20’s and up) and level of interest is still the same (of being 0)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:43 PM
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Lol none of this makes it literally impossible. Yes it actually does. There are examples of men being on the older side (40+) and never having a dating and sex life due to those things. Attraction is entirely dependent on the person and people vary in what they have as deal-breakers. So objectively you're already wrong Attraction isn’t as subjective as people think it is. This just makes it more challenging not impossible, so you're still wrong. There are literally people with autism in relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:39 PM
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If they’re not getting chances from the get go, it’s a pretty good indicator that they are not attractive but let’s also ask question: would those ugly women be attracted to those men? From what I’ve seen, no they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:35 PM
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Only through pics but this doesn’t negate my point either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:34 PM
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I mean would you want to be with someone you’re not attracted to? Sure you gotta be realistic about things and standards but trying to force yourself to be with someone you’re not attracted to will make everyone miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:00 PM
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Prostitutes exist Which are illegal (at least in my area) plus you can’t buy consent either. What makes it literally impossible for somebody to date Being Too ugly, being too short, being too weird, being autistic, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:55 PM
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And those autistic men never having those chances is also extreme as well. Those ugly people never having a chance is extreme as well. Yet these still get led into believing in the black pill because of having no chance at having a dating and sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:46 PM
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Except there are men out there where it is literally impossible for them to date and have sex due to things beyond their control. The possibilities need to be there for them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:43 PM
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At best they will whine on the Internet and at worst they'll vote for people like Trump. There won't be military revolutions, because a blackpilled man won't be able to hold his own against drones and mass surveillance. All possibilities of anything happening have to be on the table when a significant increase like this. Sure the military revolution is very less likely than them voting on Trump but all possibilities have to be acknowledged though. This is true, but is it ideal? That’s a question…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:34 PM
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Both in a sense. Just being able to have sex. Whether it be hookup or someone you’re in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:31 PM
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Everyone can try to find a date, but success is never promised. There are some people who won’t be able to date whatever they do, but they’re a minority, and it’s usually tied to some bigger issues like severe health problems. “If you’re someone who disagrees then you are basically opening and telling these men: “start believing in the black pill”” You just did that with your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:42 PM
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Everyone can try to find a date, but success is never promised. There are some people who won’t be able to date whatever they do, but they’re a minority, and it’s usually tied to some bigger issues like severe health problems. “If you’re someone who disagrees then you are basically opening and telling these men: “start believing in the black pill”” You just did that with your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:41 PM
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Every single man wants to have a chance at having a dating and sex life. While dating doesn’t have to be easy for anyone, it also shouldn’t be impossible for any man either. Having a sex life should be more difficult than having dating life but again it shouldn’t be impossible. If you’re someone who disagrees then you are basically opening and telling these men: “start believing in the black pill”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:29 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:52 PM
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Suppose neutral men did stop approaching. More men would indeed become blackpilled. Yes they would be miserable, and they would die out without reproducing. But then the next generation would consist primarily of attractive men and attractive women, and seduction wouldn't be required. Both men and women would have genuine desire for most members of the opposite sex and women wouldn't be complaining about patriarchy because they would all be with men they genuinely desired, rather than with men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:52 PM
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I actually agree but the problem that would arise from this is that the number of single men would be higher than it already is. Which would result in the red and black pill being more popular than it already is. Plus there are men out there who have been able to find their wife, GF, or someone to hookup with because their rizz was able to turn that woman’s baseline neutral attraction towards him to actually being attracted towards him. That’s why subreddits like seduction exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:19 PM
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It’s funny how some of the comments on PPD are basically opening the door wide open for men to start agreeing on the red or black pill. It’s even funnier what most of the comment are said by someone who isn’t red or black pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:14 PM
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I started to complain about dating when I reached 30 years old and saw/experienced these three things: Constant rejection from asking women out Never having a woman interested in me ever Watching every single guy around me have a woman interested in them. Finding their wife, their GF or even a hookup. Every single guy except one: me. And all of this happening due to me not trying. I spent 10+ years working on my physical, mental and emotional wellbeing, adjusted clothing and groom habits, starte…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:58 PM
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Yep. It’s hell
/r/seduction27/02/26 07:12 AM
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https://x.com/weretuna/status/2027072053917159499?s=46 The new version of Tea for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:08 AM
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https://x.com/antifeminismau/status/2027032952266195284?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 10:43 PM
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Because each Taiwanese woman is different with different attraction of sorts. But it’s certainly possible that no Taiwanese woman will find you attractive no matter the location. That ^ If you’re trying to make a point, please just say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 08:34 PM
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Because I highly doubt you’re as universally ugly as I am. I highly doubt that if you visited every country, no woman would find you sexually attractive. Just because women find me universally ugly doesn’t mean they find you that way as well. I’m a rare person of sorts in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 08:00 PM
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I thought somebody on here posted a study that said that. Maybe I’m wrong but thought for sure it was someone on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:54 PM
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Who had the study that basically said the number of virgin men drops significantly when they reach their 30’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:31 PM
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Because each Taiwanese woman is different with different attraction of sorts. But it’s certainly possible that no Taiwanese woman will find you attractive no matter the location. No different from me as far as no woman in the world finding me attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:30 PM
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?What makes you think then that eastern women find passport bros to be attractive if tgey weren't attractive to western women? Could be variety of reasons. So you agree eastern women date passport bros just for money? That defiantly could be one reason. But it’s also possible that they may not be the reason at all. Some eastern women do have a thing for western men. They find western men more attractive than the men around them. What do you mean by eastern women? I’m a little confused by that. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:17 PM
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I find it interesting that women always assume that the guys they find are automatically a creep regardless if they approach her or not. Like a woman will be more cautious around the ugly guy than if he was just an average looking guy. Now if he was a good looking guy, she would be less cautious whenever she’s around him. It’s why the whole looking good Susan meme is as popular as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:21 PM
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You succeeded because the women in that country found you attractive. If no woman found you that way, your blue pill beliefs still wasn’t gong to have a woman interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:54 PM
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Time to bring this video out again: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5cGwlSkNcjY
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:22 PM
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The average British solider spent 10 days in the trenches per month. Doesn’t sound bad but when you’re in that trench, you live with many other men in somewhat tight area where you all share the same bathroom, kitchen, and you’re trash area as well. You stay there on the hottest days, coldest nights, rainiest days and sanitary conditions are nonexistent so you have things such as lice and vermin make themselves right at home. This doesn’t even include the fact that a German charge could happen a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:47 PM
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https://x.com/kristanhawkins/status/2026736310728175764?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:13 AM
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https://www.the-independent.com/life-style/singles-nights-men-dating-love-b2926548.html
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:07 AM
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Kinda funny how she became a passport sis in a sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:01 AM
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https://x.com/apxmindset/status/2026712722008678559?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:54 PM
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We desperately need logical thinking back in the dating scene
/r/seduction25/02/26 11:50 PM
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Oh god no. The second you do, they’ll be messaging you saying you’ve been banned from posting on here. From my time on reddit, I’ve realized that mods just can’t handle criticism directed towards them. They go on a power trip and ban anybody who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:40 PM
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The downvotes only prove the point that women don’t take accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:23 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5cGwlSkNcjY
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:20 PM
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It’s also not heathy for someone to be an older virgin involuntarily as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:15 PM
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If you’re a woman who hookups with a dozen plus guys in your 20’s and now want to settle down in your 30’s but no guy wants to be with you because of you sleeping around. Instead of blaming those men for not wanting to be with you, take a good look at the mirror and figure out what actions/decisions you did that resulted in that. Don’t be mad at those men for not wanting to be with a woman who took advantage of her sexual freedom. If you’re a woman who constantly dates/be with good looking but v…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:51 PM
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Ope there it is again. Thanks for once again proving it to me again. It was a nice chat but I’m gonna mute this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:12 PM
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My guy, I'm not a victim because I don't have empathy for men with dating woes. Idk how many times it needs to be repeated. Then delete your excellent example comment. Otherwise yes you are making yourself a victim in all of this. Criticize me all you want. The criticism from men online doesn't impact me. Yup, if you want to call me an asshole. Go for it. All it does it prove my point. Not yours. There’s that victim complex again. You actually keep proving my point more so than I do yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:00 PM
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You look for excuses to justify yourself not having empathy so if/when you get criticized for not having it, you see yourself as a victim for not having that empathy. You point to those excuses as the reason instead of admitting you’re an asshole when it comes to that. You’d be better off admitting that you’re privileged, you don’t have empathy for the men who don’t sex and I’m ok being called an asshole for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 06:51 PM
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Your comment is excellent example someone coming up with an excuse to give them a reason to not have empathy and be seen as a victim for not doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:30 PM
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There’s no cage around me though. It’s just that no woman finds me attractive. It sucks but that’s dating. Dating isn’t fair. People love to say that looks are subjective and all. Yet we all know that dating is completely unfair. With that being the case, is it really fair to say that looks are subjective? I don’t think it is. I think it’s more fair to say that looks are objective not subjective.
/r/seduction25/02/26 04:47 PM
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Any empathy is better than none. Especially since most people would blow their brains out if their whole dating and sex life was filled with constant rejection and no interest from anyone. It would also do good for everyone if any and all lies and gaslighting would stop as well. But I know that the things will never change regarding all of this. All the things in the world to have empathy for and I'm supposed to extend to some man who isn't having the sex life he desires? 🤣🤣🤣 This is defiantly p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 04:45 PM
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Well of course you don’t. Especially if you’ve had a dating life. But if never had one, would you still believe it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:54 AM
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Meh. Wouldn’t be the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:50 AM
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People love to say that looks are subjective and all. Yet we all know that dating is completely unfair. With that being the case, is it really fair to say that looks are subjective? I don’t think it is. I think it’s more fair to say that looks are objective not subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:08 AM
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https://nypost.com/2025/09/06/us-news/secret-nyc-sex-doll-showroom-gives-customers-a-chance-to-get-up-close-and-personal-with-kinky-partner/?utm_source=reddit.com
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:23 AM
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I believe the only woman who’s heart I’ve broken was mother when I told her that I’ll never have a dating life due to being too ugly and too weird:
/r/seduction25/02/26 12:25 AM
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They tell it themselves, that they don't want to look for someone specific, they want to be attractive to as many women as they can be, to have options. That means that they also want to be attractive to women who like chivalry, and a more traditional approach. If they choose it, they choose that those women are options, why do they blame women? I don’t know this seems like something we (men and women) both want. Yeah we want to be with someone we are attracted and vice versa but we both would l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:46 PM
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Agree. I’d also include that doing those things are also very low ROI strategies for making friendships for most average men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:06 PM
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I think a lot of single men would sign up on your app even with the limitations/issues you have mentioned with the app. Women do have it easy when it comes to dating apps. They get matches rather quickly and have guys truly interested in them. Yes the quality of most of these matches is on the poorer side but I would think it would be better to be in a position where you try to find a needle in haystack over being in a position where there’s no haystack and no needle to find
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:14 PM
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I’m supposed to go to a concert on Saturday and I wish I can make up some sort of legit excuse to not go. Seeing everyone around me coupled up (including the couple I’m supposed to go with) but me along with never having a romantic or sexual moments makes me really depressed nowadays. I really I can find a legit excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:04 AM
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Is OP trying to say that online dating works good/fine because a lot of people are meeting each other through it? If the user base skews male-heavy, outcomes won’t be evenly distributed. That’s not evil. That’s supply and demand. Add swipe data + multi county or state competition and you get a hyper-competitive marketplace where a small percentage of profiles get a lot of attention. That doesn’t mean it’s broken. It means it’s competitive. I can’t imagine that the founders of online dating ever …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:15 AM
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And yet if every woman you’ve (you in general sense, not actually you) met thinks you have turd in the punch bowl looks, those women still won’t be interested ever following red pill advice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:01 AM
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But it also doesn’t eliminate/negate my experiences as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:58 AM
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You say that as if there’s someone out there for everyone even though that’s far from true. The woman who would be compatible with me doesn’t exist. Therefore my experiences of it will continue to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:55 PM
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My experiences have told me differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:44 PM
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https://x.com/bqmbulu/status/2025667693261582825?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:52 PM
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https://x.com/robkhenderson/status/2025988031837024752?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:49 PM
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https://x.com/myrongainesx/status/2025967595946430572?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:37 PM
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Not with turd in the punch bowl looks
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:36 PM
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But I've asked other people who've worked with her and they haven't had the same experience as me. All the more reason as to why the reason I mentioned being more true. It’s clear there’s interest from her to you but if she has a BF, then it also seems clear she wants to cheat on him with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:11 PM
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Seems like she wants to cheat with someone and she’s picked you to be that person. I personally would tell her that I’m not sexually escalating anything further until she dumps her BF and becomes single. But the fact that she’s willing to cheat before breaking up certainly shows she’s not someone you would want to be in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:47 PM
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You didn’t even tell me what your “truth” is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:33 PM
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You are?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:18 PM
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MS?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:54 PM
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It’s pretty clear based on women’s actions that twin 1 is gonna have a better dating life than twin 2. Twin 2 is the guy women are gonna ignore because he doesn’t stand out. Twin 1 does stand out but stands out for wrong reasons. But women will ignore those wrong reasons to still be with him until it bites them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:18 PM
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The red pill only works if you have diamond in the rough looks to you. If you have turd in the punch bowl looks, the red pill is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:09 PM
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This is why blackpill is superior, the ultimate truth is your looks and status dictate your worth. Unless you can jestermax or are like 6’4 you are cooked. Agree. The last thing people need to tell these cooked people that they can only feel certain ways and can’t be mad or angry. That only fuels the anger they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:33 PM
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