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Which sale of products like hymns AKA effectively Viagra on demands or Viagra available missile monsters appetite in advert with where the best dates was where a man had Viagra available for the woman to dispens to him on demand... Woman's like being drugged for stud service so his feet so he took the med that made him a dildo
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/23 04:55 PM
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What is " a real relationship"? You talk about casual. What is that? What is casual sex? I was under the impression that is predatory and moral objectifying or whatever it fusing out. There is really confusing out there
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 03:57 AM
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Lost in the words with apparently received with laughter very recently. Lots of recognition among the 40 something audience when frozen 2's at the cinemas. The apparently though also loved of derision from some younger people who had incorporated the view that men don't have emotions. The if you cross reference foreigners back catalogue you'll notice a lot of the time. The expression of sex as an outlet for the love felt is featured with the lyrics of mania power Ballard Peter cetera glory of lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:35 PM
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Kristoff: male character in Disney's Frozen franchise. Anna's boyfriend in frozen 2. Sang Lost in the woods, the 80s power ballad in f2
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:16 AM
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It's kind of relevant really because it what you said was yes but it was also the template used by Disney for kristoff lost in the woods REO speedwagon Chicago air supply were some of the major source materials which they used
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:23 PM
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Can't fight this feeling was released in 1982-83
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:13 PM
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Certain 2022 I'll be effectively at the point where the question asked by. Rose Royce in the 1970s is this love that you're after or just a good time and actual legitimate? Either way I would like to. I want to know because I can then plan accordingly or is it more voice as Paula Abdul? You asked the same question. Where the will you love me forever? Or am I caught in a hit and run? Which angle is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:12 PM
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I'm kind of understanding you. Yeah ok I'm 51. I was taught that manner. I also have that kind of obvious. Yes I still got the old school mindset of well. I walked away from a sex as I wasn't ready to be a dad so I repressed myself. I suppose I'm getting a health back and I'm just wondering what are the balls of engagement in your 50s? Would it be the case of saying yes I had other things to concentrate on? Yes had her. I had a few short relationships back in the 90s. Yes I was concentrating on …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:09 PM
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Then purity culture. This is actually explicitly taught and even before that is saying more in Christian circles. It was actually explicitly taught. You become friends first and then it grows. It's also comes across in top culture as well. Listen to the lyrics of REO speedwagon can't fight this feeling and similar. The premise is quite as the OP set
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:57 PM
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A lot of the sexual politics and feminist discussion areas were tracked in music of the time. It was sometimes easier to rather than read a long treaties on something or 300 page book. It was often condensed by other songwriters and a three and a half minute pop song got the point across faster in some cases. Women's empowerment and men's reaction surprise can shock complaints
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:50 AM
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On the flip side, back in 1982 the Nolan sisters released attention to me off the album making waves. This track actually still listed dread game as action by a woman against an inattentive man. https://youtu.be/Sykj2J--828
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:13 AM
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And I take it is as I am autistic. Is it likely to be that we're not? If I wouldn't even know how to make sexual approach, all I could possibly do is maybe say I'm curious about this thing called sex but I'm not sure how to do it. And would there ever be acceptable to a woman at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:07 AM
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What was extremely confusing at the time was where a lot of them talked about centrist being centrist, Carl, Benjamin or Sargon of akkad talked about being centrist when he then ended up joining Ukip . when viewed from the British perspective. A lot of the against quite it gives very confusing when you look at American politics from a British perspective because when someone talks about centrist I think in liberal democrat. I don't think Jacob Rees mogg
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/22 11:10 AM
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Early 1970s.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/22 10:43 AM
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What about a guy with a completely reactive sexual interface?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 03:46 AM
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The point is that some women did make that choice and others didn't. It's on. It's not a case of oh. That was only the outlier if you look at 1990s broadcasts like it'll be throne covered like the girls one wild stuff. Like all of that material, you'll find that everything is much more open men and women alike or the more while the type of fee more extrovert high socio sexuality types would be looking for casual encounters
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:21 AM
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Erica young also promoted the idea of the zipras f*** this was very concept that was tracked in looking for Mr. Goodbar. It was effectively women s******* like men looking for a casual hook up going off and basically breaking the sexual role model gender role of the time where she had to be. Oh so demure etc. It was the same dynamic that was broken down with Greece where they were re-analyzing through. Sandy, the pre-sexual Revolution Sandra District gidget character played by Sally Field in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:20 AM
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looking for Mr goodbar
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:32 PM
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I am thinking of the lyrics to Elle King's track exes and o's That seems to track this. https://youtu.be/6nXI6r6aCoU
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/22 11:47 AM
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But if you are completely heterosexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:49 AM
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Not one to be owned and free in the next minute Wanting to be owned was actually in mainstream. there even in films like 1964's summer holiday. The cliff Richard one
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:31 AM
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In the UK this is also mean your they would loop some of the footage so that most of the actual action as in the actual Felicio the actual sex acts that's opportunity penetration was taking place just outside of the frame. This would be on anything and everything pretty much you could get hold of easily. I didn't actually see R18 rated stuff until the internet BBFC 18 effectively had to simulate it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:21 AM
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It's interesting to note that limit the transfer devious consent A lot of times on the women's side of media. Male gays p*** a lot more often when contrasted with say the rape fantasy in bodice rippers, seems to present the idea in the woman of being a of aggressively enthusiastic consent. Not just consenting as in. I'll let you but I want that I need that I'm gonna have it. You don't have a choice I'm taking over here you. I am going to completely f****** well have you... Kind of sex. The kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:14 AM
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Second verse of queen's tie your mother down and other songs like that references this .Also, do I love the songs from people who actually truly turned out to be bad boys Gary glitters. I love you. Love me love.. Neil diamond girl. You'll be a woman soon...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:10 AM
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Stronghold in the back of the neck as in Arnold Schwarzenegger with the female interest in running man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:56 AM
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Was one of the first references to women wanting things a little bit rough in the guys Madonna's song hanky panky? At least in the complete mainstream meaning that type of p*** I didn't even have a clue about until Madonna's book sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:46 AM
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Technically that would be harassment under current regulations
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:39 PM
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In Urgent the lines "but sometimes I wonder as I look in your eyes / maybe you're thinking of some other guy / but I know cos I know that how I treat you right / that's why you call me in the middle of the night / you say it's urgent"suggests even a tenuous emotional connection is looked for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:42 PM
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Maybe it was the case that in the 80s and 90s relationships were more common culturally. However Urgent (Foreigner) tracked the booty call from the pov of a side dude. Pointer sisters baby come and come and get it and bev craven two of a kind yes did track the route from the active boyfriend. Or from a player. Thinking about cravens track she is in the position of the female best friend how this guy who is breadcrumbing her best friend is treating her. Lines like " is there for the telephone to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:38 PM
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One of the main love languages for men is sexual expression. Listen to some Chicago Reo speedwagon or foreigner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:02 AM
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Do a close reading of the old foreigner track Urgent. Tracks the inner dynamics of the booty call. Same with pointer sisters baby come and get it. Or bev craven two of a kind
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:43 AM
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Would it be permitted to suggest that some of us can only run integrated love and sexual desire? And the feelings cannot be separated out?
/r/RedPillWomen17/04/22 06:10 AM
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Tolkien may have tracked this. https://youtu.be/K3VOf3CBGvw
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/22 05:39 AM
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It can lead to the idea quoted
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 10:11 PM
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Contextless lines from a character in Marilyn French's novels were used in sex war era placards, and entered the culture as garbled "all men are pigs, all sex is rape " etc. Doubled down on by terfs etc, and affirmed in acts like Tim Allen's in the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 10:05 PM
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A doubleplusgood duckspeaker.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/22 06:33 PM
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Exposure of these issues started way back in the 9+ seasons of Grange Hill.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/22 06:32 PM
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"From that point I couldn't help but notice a change in Daisy..."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/22 03:35 AM
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In the corridors of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 12:37 AM
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It might be that this was discounted and erased for decades. Violence prevention elsewhere was already handled
/r/ExRedPill11/04/22 01:41 AM
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Really doesn't help when Julie bindle. I would sit quite happily on FTS and it was a political lesbian from the 70s influenced police decision making so much so, but you have anti-harassment as in staring as harassment notices going up in the tube
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 05:39 AM
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Not necessarily think about the track Jesse's girl. The guy is pining after a specific woman
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 05:31 AM
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I recall clips from BBC Mongrels featuring Destiny, the bpd Afghan hound. Look up just a little tap on the nose it is a parody of lily Allen's style involving destiny and her committing domestic abuse on her canine boyfriend.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/22 06:18 AM
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Would the Beatles track "I want to hold your hand" be seen as creepy now?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/22 04:21 AM
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No, from memory. I am 51
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:35 PM
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Didn't always be the case. If you look back in to the 1980s and before the were a thread of souls which had the female protagonist asking for the man to lie to her if it meant they could both have sex. Often the design was to throw off the rules they both were constrained by. Songs like dancing of the soundtrack of Xanadu, Fleetwood Mac little lies. Corollary the desire for open negotiation of the Rules of engagement around the sexual encounter were trapped in songs like shirelles Will you still…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:25 AM
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Angus young actually commented on this in whole Lotta Rosie. "She ain't exactly pretty/ she ain't exactly small / but at 42 3546 let me tell you she can do it all " were the opening lines
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:53 PM
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Twitter curtain twitchers are also behind phenomena like the strictly curse. Where contestants on something like say strictly come dancing had been seen out together and a shock horror they're breaking their partnerships... What will the neighbours say has been age shaming attitude in Britain for years. Has been tracked in Dylan Thomas for ages
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:47 PM
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I have always been confused by this as I mostly worked at college balls in a first aid capacity... So always really been in work mode. Or sound engineering at church. How does the start point towards meeting a future wife happen and is acceptable and correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 08:12 AM
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Can church be a "social venue"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:43 AM
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Section 28 all over again?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/22 10:14 PM
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A lot of the time could be sometimes I hear trends of women requesting that and men possibly using porn as a storyboard
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:21 AM
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Red pill was developed almost as a reaction to The Rules which was released in 1990s that basically was a reheat and weaponization of the 1950s gender roles.
/r/ExRedPill11/01/22 04:20 AM
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Like Cleveland suggested to Quagmire in S15E5 of family guy? https://youtu.be/MPihSNhyYhM
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:07 AM
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If you look back at older media representations I think of happy feet the meeting calls thinks the hot songs or the calling of the daily of the adelie penguins... Or old songs like music to watch girls by... Or even the old programs like Ibiza uncovered covered in other programs like that... As I understand cat calling it's basically a mating call
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/21 06:54 AM
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Autistic people internalising purity culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:41 AM
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Compete of men has also been tracked through the years and this has often been where you had conservative women wanting to make guard and this may well have been a reaction to the male mate guarding that happened in the 1960s and 70s. The Dr hook track when you're in love with a beautiful woman could have its corollary in the Gretchen Wilson track homewrecker. Then again breakup has often been the major Hotpoint in a lot of music. As for the creepy male archetype the bad boy hiding in plain sigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:25 AM
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Old sister sledge song from 1979. The ideal boyfriend is also portrayed or tracked in the 1984 song it's raining men by the weather girls and other similar content. Think of popular music as a contemporary poetry and a lot of hidden desires are brought out. The idea of the desire for a traditional red red colour stereotype or protector provider man was tracked by Paula Cole in her track where have all the cowboys gone in a proximately 2004 iirc. The lyrics trout Cole as the female protagonist sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:21 AM
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I had to contextualize the EXTREMELY loud rhetoric by contextualising with songs like bad manners track Lorraine from 1980 this was contemporaneous with the woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle Lesley gore you don't own me was contextualized with the hootenanny singers baby those are the rules or constant talk about a woman being proper and training all the material that was recommended that was quoted in 1950s style folk rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:06 AM
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Same characteristics were being portrayed in he's the greatest dancer,
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:56 AM
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And the interaction between historical male sexual shame and growing female sexual enhancement is playing out in the bbc series coupling. Princess being a track of the position in about 2001 to 2004. However what is creepy in what is not creepy Justin changes and it's actually quite difficult when you're from the outside looking in especially if you're autistic but trying to break down the understanding and the main said because you also have the idea that anything sexual has got to be unspoken …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:36 AM
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The checking in the are you ok are you ok with this do you want to go further discussion I don't think that was actually portrayed by major pentagonal all the TV series until sex education or The handmaid's tale (nick and Cora series 1 episode 8 jezabels kitchen). Asked if nick wanted a quickie, he said no, she said ok. Discussion of consent and how power dynamics for coming in and how that put someone in a Holborn position was played somewhat differently the sudden stop and go for the go for st…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:19 AM
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Also it wasn't until The handmaid's tale had the idea of how to ask for a firm achieve consent was actually portrayed on TV. Prior to that either people characters were silently consenting or just went for it or you had no means no being portrayed with the man saying no for the first time in disclosure. In the absence of the baseline understanding of consent forms grade and other red and a green lists and discussing your sex life only yes please yes read like a erase pin of purity culture if on …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:15 AM
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As I remember it enthusiastic consent for you only yes means yes was being taught without the baseline understandings that were also active in the BDSM community. The idea of sex is a hermetically sealed other section of life would you entered into was it basically constructed a scene played out almost like very cinematic manor was not easily visible when you viewed sex as organic aggressive desire. A lot of RP praxis was built from a pre sexual Revolution model. Think about how baby it's cold o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:06 AM
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That observation is tracked in the second verse of Man I feel like a woman by Shania twain released in 1998.
/r/seduction02/11/21 07:17 AM
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Oh - and Cliff Richard - Living Doll..
/r/ExRedPill01/11/21 08:32 AM
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Oh I forgot foreigner cold as ice And head games double vision and many others the flip side to tracks like waiting for a girl like you urgent I want to know what love is is hot blooded....
/r/ExRedPill31/10/21 09:13 PM
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And the angle when it all blows up is tracked in songs -like bon Jovi you give love a bad name. Alice cooper poison. Eagles lying eyes... Eagles New kid in town... Hall and Oates maneater.... Even the rain does the risks of having a very narcissistic woman archetype was tracks by Robert Palmer simply irresistible, addicted to love etc. Obviously this was from the male pov. Bad boy lyrics like Frank Sinatra as sky Masterson singing luck be a lady tonight in guys and dolls...
/r/ExRedPill31/10/21 07:39 PM
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Peter cetera. Not pizza tara.
/r/ExRedPill31/10/21 07:31 PM
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Further to below the Dr hook lyrics for instance they were they were translate saying when you're in love with a beautiful woman you watch your friends you watch her eyes etc yeah basically being possessive over her. Other tracks along those lines like for example Neil sedaka queen of 1964, Frankie Laine Jezebel, Kenny Rogers Lucille, sting Roxanne, jilted John ("Gordon is a moron")... In Fleetwood Mac the contrast between Stevie nicks track dreams and Lindsey Buckingham track Go your own way is…
/r/ExRedPill31/10/21 07:30 PM
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According to current mores probably the case. Back vin the basic concept was I'm yours and you are mine that to some of the lyrics it was actually common theme. Early to mid 1980s Madonna into the groove, the bridge includes the line "touch my body and move in time... now I know you're mine" Making someone yours was a common theme. In a lot of lyrics possessiveness was quoted both by male and female voices. They were also the free of Voices an example of the ball possessive would be Connie Franc…
/r/ExRedPill31/10/21 07:18 PM
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The Layton life male version marrying the exploitative manipulative CC rider is also a mainstream trokan film I think of even Addams family values where the the big bad was a black widows archetype marrying Fester. I think they're also being the erotic thriller films that were released in the late 80s on home video I believe those what actually called black widow and that archetype pin entered the end of the culture so much so then that trope was spoofed in Values. Also played with of course was…
/r/ExRedPill31/10/21 02:10 PM
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And practices such as mate guarding are taught through old 1970s songs like Dr hook when you're in love with a beautiful woman.
/r/ExRedPill31/10/21 02:04 PM
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I suppose where my confusion comes from is that in this the nearest to this type of event life into were the college ball duties I worked at when I was in st John ambulance. So I was pretty much always in a work mode.
/r/seduction31/10/21 06:13 AM
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I'm a little bit confused . what do people mean by a social setting?
/r/seduction30/10/21 02:04 PM
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Statutory rape does not exist as a charge under UK law... Section 4 of the Sexual Offences Act does have equivalent sentencing thoiugh.. I think- IANAL.
/r/MensRights27/10/21 01:31 PM
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The track I quoted always takes me back to my st John ambulance days when I worked at a lot of college balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:38 PM
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And a producer husband who also produced acdc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:41 PM
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To quote SHania Twain - "The best thing about being a woman / Is the prerogative to have a little fun and / Oh oh oh go totally crazy..."...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:06 PM
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Why have I got the midnight snack clip from The King and I running in my head?
/r/ExRedPill11/08/21 11:24 AM
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The Revolution is now complete that song is now forbidden Napoleon animal farm
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 04:49 PM
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... from a feminist guide book by Rosalind Wiseman called queen bees and wannabes..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:08 PM
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The complaint is actually voiced by chandler in a series 1 episode of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:50 PM
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Cleaner case that everything is so cool arise both politically religiously and sexually it the if you're not with us you are my enemy mindset. And the militant type and the fdS type are acting as aunt Lydia towards the more freewheeling women and the same on the men.
/r/MensRights28/05/21 12:33 PM
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So hAs it rolled round back to very traditional courting? you only ever go down that route if you're willing to marry that basically what they intend?
/r/MensRights28/05/21 11:35 AM
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Culturally tracked through the olivia newton-john track a little more love. Released in 1979 of the album totally hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 08:43 AM
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Greer also wrote the book The beautiful boy which was a basically pederast dream well ladyboner. Some of the 15-year old boys that she loaded in their she talks about " wanting a young fresh boy with semen flowing like water" I think was the quote... Or words to that effect. It's ended up with her being deplatformed buy some of the current wave...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/21 06:23 AM
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Memories of my time in st John ambulance. I worked at the British equivalent of a lot of those events...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 07:27 AM
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Borderline autistic was one of the oldest terms for what was called asperger syndrome or very very very high functioning back in Rain Man era. Back then everything was beautiful when you're typical length and and back when stolen and co active word the about where where the character Melvin in war games ... In approximately 1982. Functioning levels as in very high functioning pre-post typical or low functioning being for the way was common during canera as well that would be 1970s and before
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/21 10:56 AM
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I also think of a fictional difference in the Ghostbusters remake where's the female team with much more objectifying of Hemsworth in the Janine role than there ever was in the 1984 original where yes egon spengler and the rest of them were concentrating on journeys work after typed this with you and paying type something with you while putting together homework station as supposed to to nice body. It actually was truly uncomfortable to watch. And you have to go back as far as the 15th or 60s to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/21 05:50 AM
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Who else has Nik Kershaw's track wouldn't it be good starting in their head?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:05 PM
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https://youtu.be/OVpG4bzV1TY
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 05:05 PM
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Ephron put it in the screenplay in the following clip
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:59 PM
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Same as back in the 1980s you had the broken and MacKinnon French side of feminism alloying with the religious right this was warned about by Margaret Atwood when she wrote the handmaid's tale
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/21 02:45 PM
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Marilyn French was the source of the all men are rapists slogans that ended up on placards on protests of the era. She was namechecked in the third verse of Abbas the day before you came which was released in 1982
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/21 02:43 PM
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https://youtu.be/twBU5Xxem7A And I have Nik Kershaw's track wouldn't it be good starting up in my head
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/21 07:01 AM
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I only ever worked at club type places as part of the st John ambulance uniformedfirst aid cover
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 04:20 PM
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I am hearing the old Neneh Cherry track in my head...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/21 08:45 PM
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You can thank Julie Bindel for that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 09:45 AM
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Immortalised in 1950s music in songs like "I ain't gonna wash for a week". As in Return to the Forbidden Planet - based on The Tempest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5BfKVTFKqQ ​ Cookie is an expy for Caliban - kissed (approached) by Miranda, daughter of Dr Prospero.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 09:22 AM
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But Ian Fleming even tracked the internal emotional damage Bond did and suffered internally. THere seems to be references to loss of family, and also his wife being gunned down at the end of OHMSS...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 05:15 AM
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Add the release of Paula Cole's Where have all the cowboys gone in, 2002, wasn't it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/20 08:13 AM
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You can thank MAry Koss for that.. ​ Also over in AskFeminists.... https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/7pdgxk/misinterpreting_mary_koss/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/20 07:40 AM
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Lesbian radical feminsit who wrote Self Made Man - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Self-Made-Man-My-Year-Disguised/dp/1843545047
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 05:03 PM
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And then cue the HArvey Weinstein trial....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 09:03 PM
1

THe musical Chess tracks this - Frederick Trumper was a classic redpill character - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSpxd-0iQzY ​ This was released in 1984.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/20 07:31 PM
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If you look back to the 1970s, RP101 and GAslighting 101 was taught by The Drifters on the 1975 album "Every Night's a Saturday Night". - https://www.allmusic.com/album/every-nights-saturday-night-mw0000488608
/r/ExRedPill08/02/20 08:41 AM
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Bluepillers mentioned they wanted to see FDS die... https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/ewoav4/rmgtow_has_been_quarantined_and_men_sheds_real/fg3fcis?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:55 PM
1

Define "high value". Does character or anything like that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:28 PM
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Oh - add these cultural references. The Hand that Rocks the Cradle - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXGZj5H9kGg ​ Female perps using blackmail - https://www.reddit.com/r/MenGetRapedToo/comments/7jrruq/perhaps_48_of_men_have_been_forced_into_sex_with/ ​ Mary Koss - https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/7pdgxk/misinterpreting_mary_koss/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/19 10:07 AM
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I successfully approached tow women on a sidewalk and convinced them to crash a party with me that I was not technically even invited to. We partied through the week, but ultimately I failed to seduce the one I was interested in. But they were clearly not creeped out per se. It might engender an "ok boomer" response - but I did have Billy Joel's "You May Be Right" starting up in my head - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilsv0C1-aBw
/r/seduction14/11/19 09:25 AM
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Almost in a "don't worry your handsome/pretty little head about..." manner?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/19 07:41 PM
1

I worked college balls when I was in - and if I had a drink- it was coffee..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 12:22 PM
1

And if he is working? In SJA uniform or similar?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 11:11 AM
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Oh, also read his book The Myth of male power. He used feminist analysis to track the male gender role, and he and Karen DeCrow were also working towards a mutual consent model and away from Swept Away in the 70s. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/the-now-president-who-became-a-mens-rights-activist/372742/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/19 08:24 PM
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Have a read of the book Sexual Impolitics (was No More Sex War) and look at the old Oprah episodes with him on... Sexual Impolitics - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sexual-Impolitics-Heresies-gender-feminism-ebook/dp/B00PBA6ZRQ Warren Farrell on Oprah - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=oprah+warren+farrell - from 1991 or thereabouts. Myth of Male Power was released in 1993 - Farrell was booted out of NOW in the 70s...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/19 05:50 PM
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Warren Farrell was pushing for that role to end. Possibly part of the reason he was pushed out of NOW...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/19 05:58 AM
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And in both The Rules and The Game - "never mention Fight Club"...
/r/ExRedPill29/08/19 07:49 AM
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Tracked in music by Billy Joel - Uptown Girl, 1983. He actually married Christie Brinkley after she was in his video..
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 08:28 AM
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Would having ones trousers yanked down in an arcade by one of the female bullies equate? Happened to me at age 15
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 12:21 PM
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What is difficult is that this was *explicitly taught* throughout Purity Culture as the one and only way forward.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/19 06:13 PM
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Or they had been sexually abused or bullied - so are filtering everything through a "threat first" filter... it REALLY fucks with your head when you, the victim, are called a predator by loud cultural messages because biology... ​ SO much so that the "it's too much to believe, yoiure not joking me?" as Tony asked MAria in West Side Story at the dance at the gym is a common trope. Common enough for Jerome Robbins to put it int he libretto..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 03:32 PM
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Funnily enough, Foreigner were tracking this shit back in the 70s. EG - Headgames. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6N66I9mcG0
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 03:28 PM
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1970s - male PUA praxis is implemented after the Sexual Revolution. CF the Drifters album "Every Nite's a Saturday Night". https://www.discogs.com/The-Drifters-Every-Nites-A-Saturday-Night/release/1843921 Also look at Allan Pease's stuff on body language - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1zTmx6FsCg BUT - the SNAG (Sensitive New Age Guy) is also taught - cf Alan Alda and many John Hughes protagonists. ​ 1970s and 1980s - women and men were very up-front - this played out in the music of the time…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 03:31 PM
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That old rule also played into slutshaming.. cf the ganging up on Fantine in Les Mis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QytyoGfwPnY ​ Having been outed as a single mum - the immediate goto was "The slut brought it on herself" - by the hypocritical queen bee..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:37 AM
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Rape baiting was described in this Louis CK clip where he chronicled his time with a waitress who had that kink - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXpFtwYIKew ​ The juxtaposition between vanilla and BDSM rules of engagement.. sounds like he was trying to safeword it..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:31 AM
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There was a Guardian article recently that tracked the 90s - https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jan/31/as-a-1990s-teenager-the-world-gave-us-girl-power-and-pornification ​ One track mentioned was ANother Level's Freaky. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6vRC06updg Interesting to note - that R&B of the time was preaching affirm consent back then - and even back with Foreigner lyrics... "Let me lick you up and down / Till you stay stop..."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 09:59 AM
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Portrayed on film in Cruel Intentions - a remake of Dangerous Liaisons back int he 90s.. when Ryan Philippe rejects SMG.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 10:57 AM
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Yup - that one as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 10:53 AM
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Historically, tropes such as "hard to get" were common. Although affirm consent was being communicated through music, it was not exactly clear. ​ The area was muddied even further by the Rules and PUA mixes... and how worries about being "easy" and "reputation" were commonplace. Give loads of 1970s-1990s music a listen to track this change...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 07:44 AM
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I studied that Forster story in O Level English Lit (1987) Here's the Hazel O'Connor track - from Breaking Glass (1980) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ALdL8oV_sY
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 02:09 PM
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Umm - didn't EM Forster list the risks of that type of culture (disembodied) in The Machine Stops?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 07:09 AM
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But if you think about the last few verses... From verse 3 - especially the "robots to be our slaves" bit - On the third we get green and blue for pie On the fourth we send rockets to the sky On the fifth make the beasts and submarines On the sixth man prepares his final dream: In our image, let's make robots for our slaves Imagine all the time that we can save Computers, machines, the silicon dream Seventh he retired from the scene And he said: Behold what I have done I've made a better world f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 06:54 AM
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Lysistrata
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 11:35 AM
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Yup. Or the 999 docco strand on C4 - the one in control..
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 11:24 AM
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Cyborg thesis - wasn't that deconstructed and ripped into by Hazel O'Connor's Eighth Day? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ALdL8oV_sY
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 11:19 AM
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Was mentioned during the episode when Iain (paramedic) was doing some shifts in control while receiving counselling. He was talking a policewoman through administering it... BAsically BBC Drama doing the fly-on-the-wall stuff they do with the documentary Ambulance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 11:06 AM
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... or are part of their support system when in uniform at the college balls and events they go to?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 11:00 AM
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But copying the NHS then means you CAN do strategic preventative healthcare in an equitable manner..
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 10:52 AM
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I remember in recent eps of Casualty the naloxone home kit being mentioned... I miss my SJA days...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 09:19 AM
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Then please stay away from ambulances when you;re trying it.. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 08:19 AM
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Speedballs would be the mix of speed and PCP? Memories of my first duty - a rave down in Exmouth in 1993 - when one cas on that and rum threatened to tear apart our new Renault Master road ambulance when transfer was taking place.. ​ I was hearing the radio traffic...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 12:10 PM
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Nope- I was in St John Ambulance back in the 90s - so was working at raves and balls as part of the first aid cover. ​ Nearest I've been to "party" drugs have been the display cases at Drugs Project awareness sessions - so I coudl remove cause from casualty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 11:50 AM
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Can't help but think back to when I read both Hite Reports.. there was a guy in there who bragged about jackhammering.. And how Charlotte Rose complained about pain with jackhammering - and Punternet reports... (she heads English Collective for Prostitiutes - and fronts rosetalkssex)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 10:09 PM
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I LOVED working at college ball/rave/club type SJA duties back then...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 06:37 PM
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The Rules weaponised 1950s gender roles in the 90s; Game/PUA/TRP took the Rules Girl as the baseline and planned countermeasures... ​ Scorched earth.
/r/ExRedPill29/04/19 01:19 PM
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Was Erica Jong Zipless Fuck territory - she wanted to "pump and dump" like the Male Chauvinist Pig (1970s term for "fuckboy" or "player". Basically match and beat the "cads" at their own game. Susan Brownmiller was saying "stay away" and covering off rape in Against Our Will... Led to the Cath Comins deadman's switch... There was the Twitter spat between Brownmiller and MArcotte/Valenti that was fun to watch... Have a read of Fear of Flying and Lookign for Mr Goodbar. In the film, Richard Gere p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 05:58 PM
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That really says something about American and hard-conservative British culture - how afraid it is around sex... ​ And re what acts almost got banned under extreme-porn regs.. pretty much everything where the clit was front and centre.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:56 PM
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Victoria Wood was tracking this in the Ballad of Freda and Barry back in 1986.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNU5KVa_Tu8
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:50 PM
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Culturally - demisexual was held out as the moral choice for men. Also tracked in REO Speedwagon, Chicago and Ceters songs for example. ​ Allosexual- this was condemned in Hogarth's The Rake's Progress etc.. part of the sex-neg Victorian/Edwardian heritage, and in conservative evangelical Christianity...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:47 PM
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Yep- except you now have a solit between the sex-neg and sex-pos which copies the twist put on the Bible by Constantine... You have MArgaret Mead slutshaming the woman in SOng of SOngs who went and fucked her shepherd boyfriend at work - or in a vineyard... Woman in SOng of Songs complains about slutshaming...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:40 PM
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And yet TERFs/SWERFs and Political Lesbians horseshoe around to this - as /r/gendercynical tracks re /r/gendercritical. And this - https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CAASUL_enGB761GB776&q=reddit+gendercynical+julie+bindel+force+women+to+be+lesbian&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiagaSy2fDhAhUuUhUIHQIeAJUQBQgrKAA&biw=1536&bih=738 Or Julie Burchill wanting to put all sex workers in front of a firing squead for.. wait for ti - Gender Treachery... going full Handmaids' Tale... https://www.google.com/search?…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:27 PM
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In their mindset - yes. Have a read of books like Every Man's BAttle - and Josh HArris's stuff. How he nwo admits to fucking everything up. Also why Blurred Lines caused so much controversy... as it slips outside Polite Society... It could be argued that Robin Thicke genderflipped the Madam Folly stuff in Proverbs 9 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+9&version=NIV;MSG;NLT In the same way as Song of Songs was heavily allogorised by the moralists - and how MArk Driscoll got in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:09 PM
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There was a resurgence of Purity Culture in the 90s... and many of the kids from conservative areas went through it.. it was big enough to be plot points on Glee...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:03 PM
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In the case of scrupulous guys who internalised Purity Culture teaching all the way back to Why Wait - and were only aware of the "freaky" nature due to programmes like What Happens in Kavos and Ibiza Uncovered...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 01:59 PM
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Wait - what? When the message was clearer in Back to the Future... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxe8tzTMdrE ​ Then again - what you had in the woman's attitude was based on Mary Koss's view, and the flip? The Orange Wotsit himself..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:58 PM
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This was the dynamic tracked in Louis CK's classic bit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4hNaFkbZYU
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:45 PM
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It's an old comedy - but my brain went to Hooks's character development in the Police Academy series...
/r/RedPillWomen18/04/19 11:42 AM
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Swindon into Slough? Gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 03:08 PM
1

Look at Tim and Dawn - the UK version. Most of the time the attraction was bubbling under...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 08:54 AM
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What if you;'re autistic/alexythemic? I am - how do I pattern-match for interest?
/r/seduction15/04/19 05:27 PM
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So in pop-culture or music, this would be tracked in songs like Shania's "Man I feel like a woman" or Out tonight from RENT? ​ Funny how the Shania track throws me back mentally to my time in St John Ambulance, at all the balls in shortsleeve uniform, hearing the radio traffic, looking after all the women who "go totally crazy / forget I'm a lady...." ..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 05:20 PM
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UMm --isn;t it the case that Patric Carnes's stuff is potentially suspect? ​
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/19 03:38 PM
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Think how stereotypical gender roles worked in the 50s (Rules/Game)... on rereading, I had this clip from Grease play in my head - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS9SXH3DfT8 ​ Yup - PUA forced hypermasculine roles in... ​ I've been having to do a crash course in seeing where I operate, and undoing the whole Koss erasing me thing in my head... ​ Lots of people caught in the splash damage... ​ CF Grease - https://www.themarysue.com/grease-feminism-is-the-word/ ​
/r/ExRedPill06/03/19 06:09 PM
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They weren't. But The Rules started the whole Combat Dating thing off - led to eventually this XKCD cartoon - https://xkcd.com/800/ MArk Manson, an ex-PUA, wrote Models...
/r/ExRedPill06/03/19 05:51 PM
1

How would you folks crossmatch attractiveness of Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan? ​
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 04:22 PM
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Umm - as I recall, DeAngelis was making that point in the book The Real Rules - she was calling out TRANSACTIONAL uses rather than being authentic. She called out The Rules as being manipulative. In a similar manner that MArk Manson taught being authentic to guys. cf https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/83mpvl/lets_just_admit_to_ourselves_that_mgtow_are_just/dvj6iu1
/r/ExRedPill06/03/19 03:30 PM
1

Consider that Game/PUA/Seduction was a reaction and adaptation to The Rules - weaponised 1950s hard-to-get. What BArbara DeAbgelis called "manipulation and masquerade" - so it was both sides using NLP on each other. ​
/r/ExRedPill06/03/19 12:12 PM
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Try Purity Culture stuff. EVery Man's Battle and Every Woman's Battle put the bio sexes at complete loggerheads, viewing the other as a threat to salvation. Add books like The Jezebel Spirit etc.... ​ Of course - they also effectively preach against SOng of Songs.. I KIssed Dating Goodbye even taught that if pantsfeel was present, that person was NOT the person to marry.. ​ Just ask people in /r/deadbedrooms and /r/inceltears. ANd /r/exchristian and /r/OpenChristian ​
/r/ExRedPill19/02/19 06:23 PM
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Most of that is taught. ​
/r/ExRedPill15/02/19 05:11 PM
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Assholes hate-fucking each other...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:40 AM
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Which in turn is the very "patriarchy" but in heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:51 AM
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SO The Patriarchy == Christendom as opposed to Christianity? The Political Church versus the Confessing Church to use old German 1930s terms? Team Asshole as opposed ot Team Niemoller? In terms of autism, high sex drive and gender-non-conforming - cunthammers like Ivar Lovaas and Doug Rekers?
/r/ExRedPill29/12/18 01:51 PM
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Would systematic oppression include JB Handley wanting to eradicate autistic people like me from the planet? And the Final Solution type of stuff Autism Speaks comes out with - a mirror image of how NAS was back in the 80s?
/r/ExRedPill29/12/18 01:49 PM
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From what I understand, men still have to sign up for the draft system in order to unlock federal money over there. If they don't, they have committed a federal crime.
/r/ExRedPill29/12/18 08:37 AM
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Or under Christendom as opposed to nonconformist Christianity?
/r/ExRedPill29/12/18 08:13 AM
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So... Being under "patriarchy" is like being under Roman occupation from the pov of early Christians and ancient Israel?
/r/ExRedPill29/12/18 08:12 AM
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And re that, I internalised the self-hatred and proto-incel stuff running through Every Man's Battle. Add the massively sex-negative bolus from early aids education and related repression... Also add that I was always in a work mode at college balls and the like.
/r/ExRedPill29/12/18 08:02 AM
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All gone over my head. Nope - stil don;t; understand. Does it work like Original Sin? Is there Salvationm By Grace in the Feminist doctrine - or just Salvation By Works?
/r/ExRedPill28/12/18 02:40 PM
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Although it can, as an autistic guy, feel more like "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"...
/r/ExRedPill28/12/18 03:43 AM
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Or like someone just quietly being a Good Soldier Schweik under a Gilead like regime?
/r/ExRedPill28/12/18 03:41 AM
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Would the inaction be similar to Luke Skywalker's initial response to Ben Kenobi in A New Hope, "I can't get involved, I have work to do. It's not that I like the Empire, I hate it but..."?
/r/ExRedPill28/12/18 03:39 AM
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What throws me is that I had been taught through my time as a Good Little Evangelical that rebelling against this thing you talk about was rebelling against God himself. Terms like "Jezebel spirit" and the like were thrown about. Same as injunctions to "shun the teaching of the nicolaitians" whatever that means. I have stayed chaste and celibate because the church told me to.. I have been taught that there will be a ""strong delusion" etc... Is part of "patriarchy" Pharisee type teaching as oppo…
/r/ExRedPill28/12/18 03:31 AM
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You found the line, that was shorn of context and used as a slogan...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 01:56 AM
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Try MArilyn French... ​
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 08:14 PM
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Yes there is. It is the law of the land in the UK. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 08:03 PM
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It can get very confusing when we see some female Eric Berne case studies being lauded as cultural role models. Yes Taylor Swift, I am referring to you. Latest track sharing the same name as a chapter in Games People Play...
/r/ExRedPill22/12/18 08:40 AM
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Is part of this thing called "patriarchy" the notion that was given voice in John MacArthur's book "Slave" that I am just a tool in God's hands to be used as he sees fit? And that autonomy is rebellion?
/r/ExRedPill22/12/18 07:39 AM
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They'd be able to deal with the strong abstinence teaching I internalised from books like No sex please, we're single?
/r/ExRedPill22/12/18 07:35 AM
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How do I remove the blocks put in through the AIDS Don't Die Of Ignorance campaign? As this was running as well. And then I see the latest call from Denmark's recent PIFs to "do it for Denmark" - feels like a "lie back and think of England" for men... ​ That I have no choice - if I were to sexually engage - I am a sextoy for a woman to use as she sees fit... And I have to somehow put in an Oscar-winning performance in order to be in teh runnign for any kind of aftercare? ​ That I am fungible?
/r/ExRedPill19/12/18 11:38 PM
1

And Combat Dating resulted in this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g_GeQR8fJo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 11:22 PM
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I was more referring ot my personal life - how I ended up on the underside of all those Overton windows... was a perfect storm.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/18 07:44 PM
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Seeing LAra Stmeple fighting my corner via seeing Chrisitna Hoff Sommers and Camille PAglia pushing back - helped me stop my 3 decades of suicidal eating, from the cumulative gaslighting and victim-blaming from MAry Koss and Cath Comins... ​ ​
/r/ExRedPill18/12/18 08:06 AM
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I'm 47. The sex wars were in full flood, so I heard out of context slogans on BBC news broadcasts in the 80s....
/r/ExRedPill18/12/18 12:47 AM
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And thinking back to those black tie ball duties, I was in hi-viz...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 10:07 AM
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I internalised Dworkin/MacKinnon/French in the way Scott Aaronson did when I was 12, at the time of my abuse. Only now trying to break that down after I saw Lara Stemple fight my corner. Add Judeo-Christian ideas around premarital sex and the aids crisis... Add autism and scrupulosity... It has only been in the last couple of years that I managed to reinforce off commercial phonesex operatives that my baseline fantasy mindset built around Song of Songs was NOT ipso facto "creepy". I had to dig d…
/r/ExRedPill17/12/18 08:30 AM
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And thinking back, you always have teams of people like me alongside Street Pastors standing ready with thermal foil blankets and flipflops for the way home. I recall is treating one woman who swapped to dms for the rest of the night after we treated her twisted ankle after she came off her 4 inch heels at one of the Bicton college ball duties I covered...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 08:08 AM
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Yeah - rolled that type into recovery position quite frequently... When they were in black tie - I was in shortsleeve uniform... ​
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 12:33 AM
1

I was in ST John Ambulance between 1993 and 1998 - I worked at 25 college balls as part of the hundreds of duties I did - saw the whole Balls Society clubbing scene from the POV of part of the people keeping the partygoers safe.... Even down to declaring certain inflatable things like Human Fly walls out of bounds when they had nor been set up properly... (Rolle College summer ball in 1994 IIRC - my duty officer called in Environmental Health at about 0400 after we had had one casualty with a ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 12:24 AM
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Good point... was dropping in the history and timeline... And how we ended up with scorched earth.. and most of us diving for the bunkers...
/r/ExRedPill13/12/18 09:04 PM
1

TRP/Game had been a reaction to The Rules - Ellen Fein reheating toxic feminine ideas - and blowing up her relationships by being cold and manipulative; BArbara DeAngelis called out Rules stuff in her books... ​ DeAngelis summarised The Rules/The Secret as "Manipulation & Masquerade". Mystery et al took the Rules Girl as their cultural baseline. ​ Ellen Fein blew up 4 marriages... ​
/r/ExRedPill13/12/18 05:14 PM
1

GenderCrits call them "fucking handmaids".. with no sense of irony.. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 04:01 PM
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Flip it - same applies if you flip the initiator and recipient... ​
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 08:21 PM
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SOunds like the whole Rabbinical argument between Shammai and Hillel... Flip of this? AN old scene in Oklahoma comes to mind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVz5K63iYDs Consider - Will is trying the old TRP stuff... and slutshaming Ado Annie - who could be polyamorous.. http://the-toast.net/2014/02/11/let-us-now-talk-very-seriously-about-oklahoma/ ​ ​
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:37 PM
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Telegraph is a broadsheet paper. BBC is our state broadcaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 11:09 AM
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The "girls rule boys drool" and similar propaganda has left long and deep psychological scars... Built atop the fish/bike stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 10:17 AM
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Sounds like a Julio Igelsias lyric - or the Spitting Image parody - of *To all the girls I loved before* ​
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 12:18 PM
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AT the time when it was written - she was constructing an alibi... More the https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeeminglyWholesomeFiftiesGirl aspect... She was always DTF... but too progressive for the timeline and social rules...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:30 PM
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One cultural bait and switch from the early 1980s was Sheena Easton - going from her character in Modern Girl - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ngGX46Uhk (released in 1980 IIRC - I had the vinyl)... ​ to 9 to 5 (released in the States as Morning Train) - where she went SAHW after nabbing the guy in the first single - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_3vZYOYNYU ​ 2nd verse tracks your comment, Calibre-cat. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 08:12 PM
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You then had the Steinem/Paglia split in the 70s...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 04:39 PM
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Yup- as tracked over on Gendercynical - and all over the shop! https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=reddit+terfs+incels&rlz=1CAASUL_enGB761GB776&oq=reddit+terfs+incels&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.6125j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 ​ And.. ​ https://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1CAASUL_enGB761GB776&ei=rG39W9mxKIiZsAf9o43IDA&q=reddit+terfs+terps&oq=reddit+terfs+terps&gs_l=psy-ab.3...256558.260506..261110...0.0..0.88.426.5......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j33i160.B1Q46fwMpZc ​
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 04:16 PM
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SHumalith Firestone wrote The Dialectic of Sex - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shulamith_Firestone Led to misandry in the slipstream... https://quillette.com/2018/08/15/why-its-not-ok-to-hate-men/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 04:14 PM
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If you consider that this seems to derive from Firestone's Dialectic of Sex.. and her solution was to go full Huxley/Zager and Evans with hatcheries and "puck your son and your daughter too/From the bottom of a long glass tube.." ​
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 03:23 PM
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Yeah - but SHulamith Firestone would... ​
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 03:19 PM
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Internalise the whole rubric preached by the systematic theology that built up around I Kissed Dating Goodbye and Every Man's Battle - including the Origen/Jerome mindset... ​ ​
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:15 PM
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What about Tim and Dawn - the BBC originals? ​
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 10:14 PM
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Male POV covered in Godley and Creme's Wedding Bells (1981) Female POV in ONJ's * A Little More Love* (1979)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 01:57 PM
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Op, you do NOT need Ritalin. That "neuroatypical conversion therapy" is derived from Ivar Lovass forcing people into strict roles. Comes from his "gay conversion therapy" work that fucked up a load of LGBT folks... And could it be argued that "sex addiction" theory could be Lovaas linked as well?
/r/ExRedPill14/09/18 04:48 PM
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FTO == Future Time Orientation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 07:37 PM
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I deeply internalised the AIDS Don't Die of Ignorance stuff- and was one of the first people to receive an AS diagnosis - so spent the 90s taking part in early online activism - and taking part in all the early research. Add my sexual abuse experience and history - and how i was on the underside of the Overton window.... and dealt with that.. I think I also internalised the "used Sellotape" stuff from the hardline sex-neg stuff when Harris ramped it all up to 11 and applied it to myself. until I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 03:52 PM
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As someone who was Gen X, I will admit to being a little more old-school in my training. I've run my sex drive in a simulation mode - and I will admit to being thrown for a loop by Purity Culture in the middle.. and I will admit to my brain skewing towards scrupulosity. And with that comes a difficulty in understanding weaponised sexuality. However, I did have a few playful short relationships in the 90s. Please could someone explain sex-positive to me... is any thought or care given to a guy's …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 02:38 PM
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ELO Diary of Horace Wimp? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u448Yrdlt5E
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 01:11 PM
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Culturally - wasn't there Bill's stepmum from Bill and Ted?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 12:49 PM
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The "there is a promise made in every bed".. bit from an Arthur Miller play is in my head... And was there in music right the way through the sexual revolution. Crystals- Will you still love me tomorrow (1966, Goffin/King - I think) Rose Royce - Is it love that you're after or just a good time.. (1976) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfLBa6HBXlw And guys expressed the same - Lou Gramm, Peter Cetera etc... Not every woman is Elle Knight (Exes and Os)...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 12:29 PM
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"I knew I should have told you all I wanted was to have some fun / But you wanted me to be the permanent one..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j63pgYe6K7M (1983 - Godley & Creme - Wedding Bells)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 10:06 AM
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It was back in the 90s - used to see it turn up quite a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 02:05 PM
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"Boo'd Up" - Ella Mai ("How many ways can I say I need you, baby it's true, I might die without you") Harry Nilsson - Without You (1972) ("I can't liiiive, if living is without youuuuu") - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sVN3RuLyfI Of course - you have Bridget Jones 1 ... and Zellweger's offkey version - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xam0i02GLRE .. before Mariah Carey's cover of Eric Carmen's "All by myself" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8iTZm8-mbA
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 07:36 PM
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OK- was just observing...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 03:01 PM
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To quote Gretchen Wilson - "There are two ways we can do this / I'll let you decide / You can take it somewhere else or we can take it outside / You little homewrecker...."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 12:11 PM
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Same can be tracked the other way from men to women. And it's interesting how male-penned "misogynistic" lyrics are most often in reality frustration and trying to cut through the crap. CF Foreigner Head games...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 12:08 PM
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"God Is a Woman" by Ariana Grande could I guess be construed as a "girl power" song if you just pay attention to the title, but tbh it's just an ode to sex and if anything it's about HER pleasing her man. Nothing new. The Weather Girls' It's Raining Men had the lines "God bless Mother Nature / She's a single woman too..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5aZJBLAu1E back in 1984.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 12:02 PM
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"Delicate" - Taylor Swift ("Sometimes I wonder when you sleep, are you ever dreaming of me?") Foreigner - Urgent - 1981? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNDLBetg3kc ("But sometimes I wonder, as I look in your eyes / maybe you're thinking of some other guy...")
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 11:58 AM
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Warren Farrell tracked in Women can;t hear what men don't say and Myth of male power how the love outbound is mother-love supercharged with sexual desire..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 11:49 AM
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The same bullshit that says that feeling insanely horny for each other is somehow "disrespectful"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 11:44 AM
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Interesting how Kanye's track "Golddigger" was slammed as "misogynistic" when it was a response to Destiny's Child's "Bills bills bills"... and how SHeena Easton bait-and-switched from Modern Girl to 9 to 5...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 11:41 AM
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It always was. 1998 - Shania Twain - That don't impress me much..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 11:39 AM
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So she's following on from artists like Olivia Newton-John? The WHOLE of Totally Hot is from that POV... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP7O18Jf85VChIFzklTYtuoOriqhD0EKB (yeah - one of my favourite albums - my EMI vinyl copy got played a LOT back in 1979). Borrowed Time and A little more love would be the key points in the album's narrative. And people living lies in Never Enough? Is it a coincidence that ONJ came from country initially before playing Sandy in Grease? Oh - and ONJ's equi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 11:06 AM
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Doesn't it all come back to this Chris Rock clip? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaOUnwfD1dQ
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 10:50 AM
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Maybe because many women who identify with cultural cues could see where the thoughts are hypocritical? (CF Gretchen Wilson When I think about cheating - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKHmGTSGzMM ) (2004) (CF Amy Grant Faithless Heart 1988 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDWL6nfdZms )
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 10:39 AM
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Gretchen Wilson's Homewrecker is a more empowered version of Jolene. Instead of "Please don't take him from me" - it's "Try it, sister, you're dead"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS_3MhPHeLU (2005) When we track it all through cultural output - the main battle has always been intrasexual...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 10:34 AM
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So, that’s five pretty straightforward love songs. The only song in the top 40 that really seems like a “fuck men” song is "Home With You" by Madison Beer. "I'm a Mess" by Bebe Rexha ("He don't love me, but that's okay 'cause I love me”) kind of fits the bill, but the lyrics of the song combined with the music video make it read more like a woman trying to convince herself that she's over a dude when she's obviously not. Umm - basically the female version of 10CC's I'm not in love from 1975? - h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 10:28 AM
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Shortly after the Spice Girls era, the track Where have all the cowboys gone was released - Paula Cole - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPR108kwNo4 (1997) The Connie Francis Robot man redux period of Wannabe did not last long culturally...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 10:20 AM
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WHich links to another song of that time period - Bruce Hornsby - The Way it is...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 03:14 PM
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At the time the track was released (1985) - https://www.discogs.com/Jermaine-Stewart-We-Dont-Have-To-Take-Our-Clothes-Off/release/764337 - the AIDS crisis was running full strength.. so everyone was runnign scared. British AIDS campaign - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SqRNUUOk7s American - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=usa+aids+advert+1985
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 02:59 PM
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Agreed - I know my scrupulosity has kicked in again - and it's quite difficult to spin the freer parts of me up...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 03:37 PM
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And Comstock-type laws if reintroduced may end up restricting condoms even further...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 02:12 PM
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Would a brother/sister dynamic as common in the church pass muster? Out of interest... If not even that - we HAVE been atomised into tribes...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 06:08 PM
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And it explains the objection to some of theirs to equal accountability... From The Ad-Dressing of Cats - "SO first your memory I'll jog / And say a Cat is NOT a Dog"... Before it goes on to describe how up themselves Steinem cats are.. and how Paglia Cats HATE them..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 04:43 PM
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I was thinking of Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 03:46 PM
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Well - if they are... Gloria Steinem is gonna get seriously pissed that TS Eliot mansplained her in the 1920s...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 11:49 AM
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Have you listened to much 1980s power balled rock? Stuff by Chicago, Foreigner, Level 42 etc? Most of the male-penned stuff declaring love etc - sweet somethings... is post-coital. But yes - Love Languages are needed as well...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 11:45 AM
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Then start listening to female artists... Bonnie Raitt, The Nolans - Making Waves was the go-to there... Too lazy to crack a book - the tl:drs are all bloody well there... Even country. Gretchen Wilson is a good option..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 11:36 AM
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Mate - get thee hence and watch the Goatboy bit of Bill Hicks's 1992 set - an entire 10 minutes that concentrates completely on wearing her like a feedbag...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 11:33 AM
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Hmm - that was tracked through the current cultural poetry - pop music - in 1982 - Nolans- Attention To Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sykj2J--828 And the effect of going on too long - in 1993 - Paul McCartney - Mistress and Maid - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Litzq_0Behk And ultimate outcome? Mary Chapin-Carpenter - He thinks he'll keep her... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tQ4vpdB-24
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 11:06 AM
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Depends on scrupulosity. Gloria Steinem kinda gave the game away when she said "Women, be like cats". Ok, so to understand the reverse rationalisation from my pov as an autistic Christian guy, I can reach for my copy of Ts Eliot or play out Andrew Lloyd Webber's Cats. Also I may be demisexual... The granular aspect you describe still confuses me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 06:34 AM
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This is precisely the scenario Michael Crichton tracked in Disclosure...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 12:05 PM
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The Goodies released a track called "Father Christmas do not touch me"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsagJ0hxYCo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 06:49 PM
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Hmm - interesting that Lou Gramm was practising affirmative consent around that in the old Foreigner track "Dirty White Boy"..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 06:38 PM
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Often- no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 05:51 PM
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"Are you worried what your friends see/ WOuld it ruin your reputation loving me... / Cos I'm a dirty white boy...."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 01:57 PM
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Many guides in print had taught the demisexual Friends first model was the one and only way in
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 08:02 AM
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Peter Lilley - "Just like the Mikado - I have a little list...." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOx8q3eGq3g Tory conference 1992...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 12:49 PM
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Warren Farrell and Karen DeCrow were working on decoupling sex from pregnancy/childbirth and child support on both sides of the divide... hence DeCrow's stuff on paternity fraud. ANd this was being done back in the 70s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 11:50 AM
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Add abstinence teaching plus sex-neg Dworkin/Kimmell blame...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 11:38 AM
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Yes. One old song from 1938, You made me love you, describes the mindset... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFSczLif0q4
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 02:23 PM
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So the BluePill idea is in line with Connie Francis's Robot Man as opposed to the PPW/RPW following Peggy Lee? To think back to the 50s?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 02:17 PM
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Nearest I've been to them is removing cause from casualty when I did first aid cover at a rave.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 09:39 AM
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And Aldous Huxley beat her to it...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 08:23 AM
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Clip from Chris Rock Never Scared.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 04:23 PM
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"He ain't talking about me".. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWoiZwU93fM
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 04:05 PM
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They are taking the Ellen Fein "Rules Girl" as their baseline. That book weaponised "hard to get" and othr 1950s roles.. Barbara DeAngelis called that shit out in The Real Rules.
/r/ExRedPill14/06/18 07:47 PM
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European Space Agency and other stem environments have very relaxed dress codes. They had been up all night landing the probe on that comet. He was justness ring the shirt his friend had made, had come straight from mission control. He was in mufti then got pulled into the studio to be congratulated... Then got set upon by a Twitter mob led by someone who did not understand the more relaxed cultural standards in the esa. Rose Eveleth was being an asshole. No more, no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 05:28 AM
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Purity Culture really kicked in again in the mid-90s in conservative evangelical communities. Hence the massive split..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 04:40 PM
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About 55-45 if you count "made to penetrate" as rape by envelopment. Use 12-month figures from CDC etc. Near as dammit equal. Methods of coercion include blackmail etc eg "If you don't fuck me I'll tell everyone you raped me. Who will they believe?" - which was the one used in Michael Crichton in Disclosure. And that John Landrith experienced himself. "What - are you gay?" which was used by eden against Nick in THT s2e4. https://www.reddit.com/r/MenGetRapedToo/new/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MenGe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 04:31 PM
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What if the guy was raped by envelopment or made to penetrate? Or coerced into it by being threatened with "What - are you gay or something"? CF Handmaids Tale s2e4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkDVR_K0do0 Mary Koss would view that as Simple Assault. Lara Stemple is disabusing her of that...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 04:05 PM
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The couple you described seemed like the couple described in Life In The Fast Lane
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 12:10 PM
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Why do I have old Eagles tracks playing in my head?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 06:38 AM
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I was referring to the ellen Fein book that was released in 1995. The whole Rules/Game thing led to this - https://xkcd.com/800/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 07:15 PM
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The Game, Mystery method etc seem to flip the script on women "viewing themselves as the prize"...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 06:15 PM
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... flipping the script from The Rules that was released 10 years earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 12:27 PM
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Really? It's actually lauded and promoted by a major female UMC rolemodel - who even released a song named after a chapter in Eric Berne's book Games People Play - http://www.ericberne.com/games-people-play/see-what-you-made-me-do/ - and the artist and song? Taylor Swift. Track - Look what you made me do - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4xcpMCPhfE Blank Space basically lauds Cluster B red flags.... and it was scary watching her set during the BBC Biggest Weekend... just looked like a playout o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 12:25 PM
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And I have the Nolan's track Attention To Me playing in my head again
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 07:40 AM
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It all gores into perspective when you work at 25 college balls as part of uniformed first aid cover... all the assholes look the same when you're rolling them into recovery...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 01:27 PM
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"Fun and active". WHat would you call the quieter guys who may, for instance, not be the life and soul of the party - but nay be there as part of uniformed first aid cover, or doing sound at an event...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 06:24 PM
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I'm not sure. All I know is that I get very intimidated when it appears that if I were ever to sexually engage - I was taught that I give my whole self, body and soul, to the lady - and could sustain a hell of a lot of damage.. I see talk of women only viewing men as resources or dildos.. and it scares me. I know I am fragile - beign autistic, I am a Vulnerable Adult.. and I saw a documentary clip where the woman was forcing her man to wear pig masks and the like - is that how i am viewed? Lives…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 03:34 PM
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Armed response police do. I do not believe Sally Miller Gearhart or Mary Daly were joking when they proposed a 90% cull to the male population. If this is truly planned by man-haters like Bindel (then again _ icalled the Fawcett Society when she had proposed these in the national press) - they confirmed she was acting on her own.. but the fear was there - that I would end up forced to my knees and summarily executed for the crime of possessing a Y chromosome and penis. It is this fear that is dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 03:02 PM
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This "crazy radfem" has MASSIVE positional real-world authority - Bit like Cathy brennan doxxing and denying transpeople medical care. Sarah Noble MP had Government power at her hands. The prospect of Army and police gunnign down hapless men. THAT is proxy power. Potentially in To Kill A Mockingbird territory... it;'s also the case that fear erupts as anger...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 02:45 PM
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Julie Bindel tweeted publicly that "all men are inherent rapists and should be shot". She was reported to the police - as this is deemed hate speech in the UK - and this was after her call fro men to be interned in concentration camps. Proxy force is the use of State machinery "white knights with guns" to enforce power over an outgroup. Was demonstrated effectively by Cersei Lannister in GOT.. series 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKTc8Chvw5k She and Sarah Noble are two TERFs with heavy rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 02:02 PM
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Roachford, Cuddly toy etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 07:56 AM
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Love don't live here any more was Rose Royce originally. Covered by loads! Two hearts collide by Level 42
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 07:55 AM
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How about the Political Lesbians or gender separatists in the sex wars? Or bindel's proposed use of proxy force to massacre men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 07:43 AM
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The Simpsons alluded to this with ned Flanders's backstory
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 06:56 PM
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What Athol Kay describes as Dread Game had been written up in Ellen Fein's The Rules - the first salvo that was fired in Combat Dating. It was also enumerated as weapons-of-last-resort in the Nolans' 1981 track Attention To Me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sykj2J--828 - all the sexual politics aspect of feminism was being discussed and played out in UK and US culture in the 80s. TOTP reruns on BBC4 have helped me catch up.. and you see the gender dynamics playing out in song lyrics... It was …
/r/ExRedPill25/04/18 04:11 PM
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50SOG is basically the old potboiler plot turned up to 11. And when eve Jilly Cooper complained about the sleeve art on her novel Riders being toned down...
/r/ExRedPill25/04/18 03:29 PM
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Problem is - a lot of the rules being put in place do seem to suggest a rebuild of gilded cages... or running from one form of misogyny to another...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 01:55 PM
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The difficulty is where you have scrupulosity and the 180-degree inverse flip within a generation. ALso if a guy has come out of evangelical Christianity or Purity Culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 01:50 PM
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"Those women don't give a FUCK! If the beat's all right, they'll dance all night..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcqJDDhoUlc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 11:58 AM
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this confuses me. How am I, as a male virgin in his 40s, supposed to learn how to do sex to the exacting standards of a lady? Without aiming my soul at hell if I was to stick to conventional rules over the whole area? Is there any hope for thshy autistic late bloomer tonnage a chance of experiencing what they write about in married Christian sex or the porn like stuff I read about in Nancy Friday books? Or am I genetic waste and therefore should kill mys3lf?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:24 AM
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Why have I got Chas and Dave's Rabbit playing in my head? https://youtu.be/qGNojF9qKS0
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 09:41 AM
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"You would THINK that women would rule the world. But they don't! You know why...?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaOUnwfD1dQ
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 10:27 AM
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I'm hearing a line from Grease 2 - Michelle Pfeiffer as Stephanie Zinoni saying that she was getting bored with her relationship with Jonny Nogarelli (Adrian Zmed) as "there's more to life than making out"... it's about 6 minutes into the film..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 12:09 PM
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Olivia Newton-John.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:33 PM
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And the genderflip? Switch back from "no" to "yes"... and we have ONJ "Physical"...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:54 PM
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See Cats, raise you Miss Saigon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:48 PM
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Aaand - we're into Phil Spector territory...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 03:48 PM
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They were doubled down on in the Helicopter Parenting post-Columbine period.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 09:20 PM
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It's reinforced through rap tracks like "don't want no short dick man"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 02:01 AM
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Please someone kill me now. sobbing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:33 AM
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Less sociopathic than The Rules is stuff like Nicole Beland Ask the girl next door, where she spilled the beans back in the 90s or early 2000s. Even exposed the "hot dude" rating that seems to mirror the HB classification system. Women's own NATO comm brevity type system, akin to the Pua Brevity Code.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 04:45 AM
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Culturally, the Uk view was more open to the female abuser (cf Rod Stewart, Maggie May, 1971) than in the States - Van Halen, Hot For Teacher. 1984.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 10:56 AM
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Define "sexual misconduct". There seem to be a large number of possible definitions - and it's a very woolly phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 09:41 PM
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equivalent over here would be Glastonbury etc. Again - it's a long way back - but when I've undone the damage from the traumatic eating - I may go back into St John Ambulance.. Balls Societies had all the socialites - who I was looking after when in the Brigade back in the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 12:18 AM
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There was the whole Purity Culture thing that kicked in from 1995 - with all the Josh Harris stuff - along with Bush 2 forcing abstinence-only in some communities.. was basically a replay of footloose-type attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 04:30 PM
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If they grew up in more conservative times or cultures... it's also quite difficult to override teaching akin to the Just Say No stuff..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 03:46 PM
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Unless you're there as part of the first aid cover.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 10:52 AM
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I think the model and mindset some guys might have is whre Hugh Grant and Andie Macdowell are comparing counts in 4 Weddings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_uKO6LIWLA
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 08:07 PM
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The Guardian is one of the main UK print newspapers. Valenti's op-ed pieces have MASSIVE reach.. same as Bindel in the Independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 06:58 PM
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The probelm was at the time when some dingbat TERF/SWERF push was going on - it wasn;t loudly shouted down within the ivory tower - but visible/audible publicly...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 06:53 PM
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You haven't read any Nancy Friday have you...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 10:13 PM
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Because due to Allison Saunders, the DPP, issuing guidance that effect to prosecutors... it's also the case in the UK now...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 06:47 PM
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Even chronicled culturally. Erin Pizzey tried to raise the example of the equally-toxic on both sides relationship - the kind of thing portrayed in Bad Manners' Lorraine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxdTcbCSQwY
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 06:59 PM
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Consider that selflessness is baked into Judeo-Christian codes like Scouts etc. If he was brought up that way, the skew applied in the "me me me" mindset in some forms of feminismTM, and in Seneca Falls... Someone brought up as a Boy Scout can find that confusing and infuriating, especially if he is being blamed for stuff he didn't do or even know to do..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 10:35 AM
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Oh? Women like Sally Miller Gearhart and Germaine Greer and Gloria Steinem, and the motherboard, Andrea Dworkin were raped by prominent men in their lives and then externalised their rage through "personal is political" and painted everyone who wasn't assigned female atmbirth as Satan. Then you have Julie Bindel turning male-female Comms into a kafkatrap after being on record as wanting to destroy any vestiges of male-female goodwill ("I want to see heterosexuality die" and her stuff about putti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 10:02 AM
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That expectation mismatch was kinda covered back in 1983 - Wedding Bells by Godley and Creme - I think...
/r/ExRedPill26/01/18 06:17 PM
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Just asking out of curiosity - is there some overriding of agency going on here? Is casual sex always manipulation? As Erica Jong/Sheryl Sandberg's Zipless Fuck was all about casual... do these women have no agency?
/r/ExRedPill24/01/18 02:23 PM
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Agreed. Tracked in culture again - Boomtown Rats - MAry of the 4th Form (1977). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiv7hE0s7Xw Lyrics - https://genius.com/Boomtown-rats-mary-of-the-4th-form-lyrics Based on old O-level/CSE Uk school structure, 4th form/4th year would mean approx 15. Under Uk age of consent. What used to be called "jailbait".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:17 AM
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Back in the 90s, the early autism spectrum/PDD community were split over the British "empower the autie/aspie" model and the American "feed them Adderall/Ritalin like Smarties/M&Ms" models. I remember the shouting matches across the Atlantic over the LISTSERV community when all this was going on - SSRIs based on neurotypical brain structure was doing all kinds of damage. This was at the same time as the "geek profiling" ont he back of Columbine, the helicopter-parenting starting up from the time…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:33 PM
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And when the author of this "satire" shot Andy Warhol? And was lauded by Ti Grace Anderson who headed up NOW atmthe time? And Jilly Cooper and Sharon Stone were card carrying members of Scum?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 06:52 AM
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And when Julie Bindel eulogised Dworkin in the Guardian a couple of years back.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 06:50 AM
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So possibly books like Every man's Battle which enforce Madonna/whore inadvertently spawned "creeps" who would need help to come up to speed? Or is there also female-aimed or sex negative propaganda that projects blame?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:51 PM
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I was wondering what the trends were..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 10:11 PM
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One model of masculinity pushed back in the 70s was the Sensitive New Age Guy. I was wonderign whether this type of guy was still attractive to Millenials...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 07:28 PM
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I'd be interested to know what Millennial women think of musicians like Leo Sayer. One key track of his in 1977 - When I Need You - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxiH46q4_ak IIRC, it went platinum. Or is he too much of a SNAG now?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 06:53 PM
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And the fact it namechecks Lolita as well...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 09:31 AM
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I know - but the ethical brakes were still there...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 08:48 PM
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Aaand another track starts playing in my head. Gary Puckett's Young Girl - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyzDcQR2GOs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 07:50 PM
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Yeah - I kinda go stream of consciousness a lot of the time - especially when slicing between discussions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 07:46 PM
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Madness covered this in their 1982 track My Girl.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avDPY-wvUwk
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 04:35 PM
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Abba - when i kissed the teacher - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME_zc8hfuxk Abba - Does Your Mother Know - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OspATQ4HuLs Queen - Tie Your Mother Down - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGDGwDnJvps
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 04:10 PM
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Was covered in culture... even ABBA had both sides. Woman's side - When I Kissed The Teacher. Male adult to female underage? Does Your Mother Know. And the more TRP aspect? The badboy who will go under the AOC? Brian May wrote that one.. Queen - Tie Your Mother Down...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 04:05 PM
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Swerf is the same as TERF, but dealing with sex workers. Example of one will be Gail Dines
/r/MensRights11/01/18 02:18 AM
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I'd strongly recommend Huey Lewis etc...
/r/RedPillWives08/01/18 08:36 PM
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Karen DeCrow, who was high up in NOW in the 70s, tried to push back against paternity fraud alongside Warren Farrell's LPS idea - to decouple sex from parenthood on the male side...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 07:25 PM
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"It's different when I do it"? And this isn't hypocrisy? Yeah- mind boggles..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 07:51 PM
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Parodied by Family Guy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c82z_bxy60E
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 07:24 PM
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Was an article she wrote...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 02:39 PM
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She promoted camps where women could check out men like library books in a Guardian piece, then a year later just tweeted that all men were inherent rapists and should be shot. Then again as a TERF lesbian who just hates men...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 10:38 AM
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She promoted camps where women could check out men like library books in a Guardian piece, then a year later just tweeted that all men were inherent rapists and should be shot. Then again as a TERF lesbian who just hates men...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 10:37 AM
2

Erica Jong was one of the first to promote weaponising sex, Fear of Flying covered it. Basically she promoted "fuck like a Chauvinist", or use pump and dump. She named it The Zipless Fuck. don't care about the guy connected to the dick... just use him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 10:16 AM
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And they say that Horseshoe Theory is bunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:26 PM
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I know of the effects of being sexually abused then gaslit by my assailants telling me that they would declare rape if I talked... because it happened to me. I suicidally ate for 30 years.. and it's only with the aid of a gastric balloon that I am losing the weight at a clip now. The abuse happened in 1984 - I as told in 2004 it wasn't my fault... for the first time. Mary Koss would say it was "unwanted contact".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:24 PM
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Gets very confusing when a group ostensibly for equality eschews going the way that Nelson mandela did - and opt for Winnie Mandela's MO... trashing libraries for equality makes as much logical sense as shoving burning tyres over political opponents' heads for unity..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:18 PM
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When Pizzey's dog was shot and her post was redirected to the Bomb Squad - that was her own generation- Team Brennan's cohort...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 03:40 PM
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CHS/friday/Paglia wanted to critique the Patriarchy - the TERFs and SWERFs wanted to BE the Patriarchy..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 03:13 PM
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Mix of Gloria Steinem and Julie Bindel. Steinem comes from the prissy UMC Victorian-type model (as described by Camille PAglia)... Bindel went on record as wanting to "see heterosexuality die". So she went to Nottingham Police Chief Constable and suggested they enact laws to ban flirting akin to Titipu in the Mikado. The clip from Downfall - and Bindel's bit about male concentration camps - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hitler+bindel
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 03:08 PM
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Like when Susan Brownmiller shouted at Amada Marcotte and Jessica Valenti for going off half-cocked?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 03:05 PM
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Allison Saunders, the current Director of Public Prosecutions, is a hardline 2nd wave Steinem/MAckinnon feminist...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 02:59 PM
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Farrell and Decrow were both pushed out of NOW along with CHS and Camille Paglia, Judy Blume, Nancy Friday etc by Team Steinem. Back in the 70s. Same as when Esther Vilar got death threats from the misandric faction for writing The Manipulated Man - which kinda described Erica Jong's MO.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 01:55 PM
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I suppose if the guy has been highly scrupulous - then put through the wringer...
/r/ExRedPill06/01/18 01:32 PM
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I am confused... why are autistic spectrum guys like me deemed disqualified from sex? What have I done wrong? Is there any hope for the autistic man to be seen as a sexual citizen?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 04:15 PM
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seems to suggest the more scrupulous guys are dead in the water... which seems unfair. How should a shy scrupulous ASD guy attempt to date/court? And still experience this really enthusiastic sex I read and hear about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 04:05 PM
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I was diagnosed personally by Lorna Wing back in 1987 when I was 16. I'm not TRP - but I only managed to decouple the suicidal eating after finding MMSL and CHS and Paglia pushing back against the "women are from Venus, men are from hell" concepts.. I lived ont he underside of the Overton window for 30 years.. Or is there space for a shy humble "Umm - is it OK to say that i like you" and ask someone out? And what woudl the dating/courtship process look like? Would I be allowed sexual citizenship…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 07:30 PM
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What hope for the shy autistic guileless guy? What would SMP "beginner slopes" look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 07:13 PM
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Plays out similarly to this clip from Quadrophenia? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Wj-LUq-6w
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 09:02 PM
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And some of Firestone's ideas were modelled and tracked by Aldous Huxley earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:45 AM
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How about immersive simulations like Vatsim? This has been used by real world small airlines to train people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:36 AM
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There appears to be a crossmatch between the Fabio-alike on most romance novels and the reference male build described by Kathy Sledge in He's the greatest dancer (1982) and Sinitta in So Macho (1987)..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 12:32 PM
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Yeah - they both got sidelined by Steinem's contingent... back in the 70s.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 12:20 PM
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I'm slap bagn in the middle between camps - but am an IT Capacity Planner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 04:40 PM
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Not him. Feminist thought leaders like Mary Koss saying that I as a male victim of female sexual abuse did not experience what I experienced, but erased it as "unwanted contact"; Germaine Greer saying that I as a male victim am at risk of becoming a perp and therefore should be incarcerated; and Julie Bindel or Mary Daly saying I should die for the crime of being born with a Y chromosome and a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 04:30 PM
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Like Warren Farrell?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:56 PM
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Karen DeCrow and Warren Farrell were working towards sorting out LPS/paper abortion to balance out the parental fraud risk...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:53 PM
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So do appeals to authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:29 PM
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You really don;'t know your COle Porter, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:28 PM
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Problem is - this was what a lot of SJWs following the misandric model of feminism expressed widely. We're talking SJW blogger/journos with massive PA systems - like Amada MArcotte and Julie Bindel. Gender-fem thought-leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:23 PM
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"Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply outside the courtroom" aka "We are free to vilify you for even thinking you have any right to express sexual interest as not even a walking dildo"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 11:36 AM
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I was referring to some of them always being assholes...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:58 PM
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Temperance era feminists were in favour of the Comstock laws that prohibited birth control aids like condoms being sent through the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 01:47 PM
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What if he was made to penetrate? Or raped by envelopment?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:02 AM
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Or more the case that the current wave intersectionalists are throwing away all the gains won by CHS, Paglia et al...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 09:26 PM
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Is the Inner Asshole/Badboy the "Oh yes they fucking do" originator within Colin Firth in the last reel of Bridget Jones?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 12:41 PM
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And how many copies of Maneater did Hall and Oates sell? Peak Pos 06 Title: MANEATER Artist: DARYL HALL AND JOHN OATES Label: RCA Cat no: 290 First charted: 30.10.1982
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 12:03 PM
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Viz Comic shows the hypocrisy in strips like Victorian Dad. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=viz+victorian+dad&client=firefox-b-ab&dcr=0&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQrdn6oevXAhUMZlAKHb61DnEQsAQIKA&biw=1600&bih=749
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 11:53 AM
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Cross-country the Nolan's track Attention to me. In the lyric, Bernie is enumerating female Dread Game as listed by Kay. Also consider that MRP life is a reaction more towards Rules type processing. Hence the Beautiful Dream xkcde strip
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 07:11 AM
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And this is the confusion. Male reference sexual connection acts cumulatively... think back to old Rod Stewart or REO Speedwagon tracks - it's all cumulative. "You are my lover, you're my best friend"... etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:35 AM
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Well - a lot of people cheered when Prohibition was defeated... And there was a LOT of hypocrisy during Victorian periods...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 11:44 PM
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... which everybody hated... and under the covers you had the Yorkshire Ripper... ...and MArie Stopes, Mary Woolstonecraft etc pushing to bin...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 11:08 PM
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Paracetamol can be flushed out of the system - cranial reconstruction is a tad harder...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 11:03 PM
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"Toxic masculinity" is a fucking TERRIBLE term. It comes across as blaming the poor guy locked into the gender role he struggles to perform.. while enforcing it even more tightly. Makes the feminist more of a Pharisee...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 11:00 PM
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Considering that Mean Girls is built atop Ros Wiseman's book Queen Bees and Wannabes, andTina Fey's lines in the gym scene is a direct lift fromt he first chapter... where Wiseman describes the session she led..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 12:01 PM
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A lot of the time the help just isn't available. I recall when looking into sexual anorexia (me suicidally eating ont he back of my sbuse by predatory women); Patric Carnes's work is built atop Mary Koss's assumptions; so a guy suffering this would have to attend or engage resources for "sex addicts" - way to blame the victim. Likewise - all the support is built atop Ellen Pence's original assumptions in v1 Duluth... unless that's changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 11:44 AM
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Just like her leader, one Catherine Comins. Who weaponised the False rape claim and then wrote Vawa. Recent Dean of Vassar.
/r/MensRights22/11/17 07:54 AM
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.. or autistic and not aware of traffic on the wire - or can't pattern-match to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:58 PM
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When the safe approach window is as narrow as an Apollo Command Module atmos reentry...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:49 PM
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Biggie was saying what Kanye said - only earlier...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 11:56 PM
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It's interesting then when you look at the line-up in Gamergate and Notyourshield. Autistic gamers and sex workers - two marginalised communities where the people writing about them in the States at least break the cardinal rule. Nothing about us without us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:25 PM
1

in about 1995, the social sphere bisected into a fight between "bros before hos" and "chicks before dicks". Fratboys versus Spice Girl types...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:22 PM
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1980s. Andrea Dworkin and Cath Mackinnon teamed up with James Dobson of Focus on the Family during the Sex Wars. Happily they lost. CHS and Camille Paglia numbered among their detractors. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=uYQ1AQAAQBAJ&pg=PT81&lpg=PT81&dq=dworkin+mackinnon+dobson&source=bl&ots=azdviOrgEw&sig=8ny2F-wqje3lA1K8R5Nd2-rRY40&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjn7v7m-sDXAhWmDcAKHYHTDjkQ6AEIOTAD#v=onepage&q=dworkin%20mackinnon%20dobson&f=false Led to this cartoon.. TERF/SWERF & tradcon. http://40.m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:08 PM
1

A book "Just Fuck Me" was released to cater into this...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:34 AM
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Tim Tebow etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:32 AM
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Same concept as Lous CK discussed here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXpFtwYIKew
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:31 AM
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Hence the Mk 1 Comins Deadmans Switch - or the weaponised VAWA rape claim.. As we saw with James Meeks - the woman tried to safeword-abort- he ignored it - so she hit the halon.. Of course - the same legal device can be used as a blackmail weapon in the hands of a female-rapist against her male victim... (as happened to me)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:19 AM
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Meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:22 AM
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Cited in Baby It's Cold Outside, Move Over Darling etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:54 PM
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50SOG and other erotica saw faster sales after the Kindle was rolled out - as it removed the shame aspect of being clocked by other women with a thick "rapey" tome...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:52 PM
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first scene in Everything you Ever Wanted to Know About Sex but were afraid to ask, anyone? Also this track... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr1okBUa1kk
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:49 PM
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It was the main premise behind the Dworkin/Mackinnon/DObson push to ban porn in the 80s. The Mary Whitehouse contingent. Also behind the Alton Bill that begat the Video recordings act in the Uk in the 80s...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:47 PM
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FARRELL - "Before we called it harassment we called it 'exciting'"...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:45 PM
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All this was covered in Erica Jong's book Fear of Flying - and the novel Looking for Mr Goodbar. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Looking-Mr-Goodbar-Judith-Rossner/dp/1476774722 Back in 1975. Jong wanted to fuck the MCPs while Brownmiller warned against them...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:43 PM
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The Rules wasn't. All the Rules: Time-tested Secrets for Capturing the Heart of Mr. Right Kindle Edition by Ellen Fein (Author),‎ Sherrie Schneider (Author) I am confused as to why the sex of the author is germane... I do kinda understand the dynamics from the female side through reading books like The Temp by Serena Mackesy, and Nicole Beland's Ask the Girl Next Door
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 01:21 PM
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Then again - it actually WAS part of the female dating script options in the 50s. also namechecked in Rizzo's sogn "There are worse things i could do " in Grease - set in 1959. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGzBZJHhHsc As an Ethical Slut, it was anathema to her. The Rules had promoted the weaponising of 1950s gender roles - which along with Game/PUA led to the scorched earth out there... but if someone went down that route - they were Biff Tannen - who was about to.. yes.. rape Lorraine in Bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 12:05 PM
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"See the little faggot with the earrings and the makeup? Yeah buddy, that's his own hair..."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:17 AM
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Th eporblem you have is that the male side is downstream of sex-neg in terms of dworkin/Mackinnon... Also add one-sided erasure of male victims (Koss/made to penetrate)... So first order of business is telling Mike Kimmell to go fuck himself..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 06:49 PM
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I reckon that on both sides, the whole "How can it be wrong if it feels so right" plausible deniability is running.. A clash between both sides wanting to give in to the urges - but also wanting to save face... LOTS of 50s songs cover this... I'm thinking of Doris Day and Move Over Darling, or the Everlys Wake Up Little Susie... Bung in Purity Culture and wider sex-neg culture...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 09:22 AM
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Mary Koss- http://feministing.com/2013/01/31/the-dangers-of-a-gender-essentialist-approach-to-sexual-violence/ Michael Kimmell designed that Aggrieved Entitlement theory - which is also a pile of bollocks when used as a DARVO.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:15 PM
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Fuck "competition" - some of us are more collaborative than that - especially us on the autism spectrum...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:54 AM
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Having Michael Kimmell blaming guys like me for our own rapes at the hands of women - after being erased by MAry Koss, though.. Was only in telling Kimmell to go fuck himself was i able to decouple the suicidal eating..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:51 AM
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Translate back to "philanderer" or "rake" - highly scrupulous guys like me - I'd have to go against my conscience...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:47 PM
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In the book, Serena Joy (the Commander's wife) was an expy of Tammy faye Bakker or that type of televangelist, aping what was going on on the 700 Club and Moral Majority supporters of Reagan and Thatcher. Possible elements of Phyllis Schafly. The MGM/HULU series' Serena Joy Waterford may be based on Schafly's real-world niece - Suzanne Venker. Do image searches for Serena Joy Waterford and Venker - you'll see the similarity. As well as writing, Venker is on Fox/Sky News a lot. Ouch - Just notice…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 05:25 PM
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Aren't rape jokes more often than not a refuge in audacity or demoing the characters as beyond the moral event horizon?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 06:39 AM
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I suppose saw all the rich people at play when on duty during my time with St John Ambulance. College balls run by BABS SOC - the equvalent of the frat system; 3-day-events at Bicton, other horsey duties etc etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 03:20 AM
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Thank Julie Bindel for that one. She met with Nottingham Police - and she's on the record as wanting to see heterosexuality die. Led to this Downfall meme - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZjcPaBrGqI Fawcett Society confirm she was acting on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:10 AM
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I kinda started doing that after I had read all this ranting from the Christian hard-right.. I borrowed the book Rap Lyrics from the library - you had an anthology of poetry... and cultural milestones..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:07 AM
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S'pose I'd need a good wingwoman to help me if I were to enter a relationship... as I'm a tad more defenceless, being on the autism spectrum... Yeah - just that the lyrics do seem a tad callous if you process them as poetry... I'v ebeen doing a crash course in changes in sexual politics by way of BBC4's TOTP reruns...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 11:49 PM
1

And round we go to Andrew Gold's Lonely Boy all over again? The other problem is that there are women out there who weaponise that very openness against the man they asked to drop his defences... Sensitive guys notice the karaoke choices - the women murdering Elle Knight's Exes and Ohs, or Taylor Swift's Blank Space, or that horrible "to the left, to the left" one by Beyonce... And the response to those? Foreigner's songbook. Or Marc Almond's. And then when she uses the blurts as weapons? Fast r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 11:42 PM
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Mostly because of the ingroup bias - they have societal support as opposed to the cultural message to "man up" and "big boys don;t cry".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 11:30 PM
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Hmm - sounds like the Rules side of the Combat Dating equation... The authors of The Rules deep-sixed their marriages... And before any guys did - Barbara deAngelis called her type out in The Real Rules. Manipulation+Masquerade==BITCH. And the insufferable kind - not the Babe In Total Control Of Herself..
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:00 PM
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how about their utility? cash or cum?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 07:53 PM
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Actually it WAS analysed as an oppressive gender role by a feminist now in exile - Warren Farrell. Also by Karen DeCrow etc... But Team greer (the TERFs/SWERFs) wanted servants slaves and scapegoats...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 03:50 PM
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The same rhetoric Scott heard also nearly killed me...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 03:38 PM
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Just ask Scott Aaronson.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 02:54 PM
1

And you can thank insane misandrists like Julie Bindel for that.. she was the one who met with Notts Police to make male-female seduction comms in public illegal. Twinning Nottingham with titipu... Which brings us round to Japan again...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 01:03 PM
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*actually do come off as insecurity, like would a truly confident man be counting his texts and doling them out by formula? A&A would get sooo annoying after awhile too. That's where TRP trips up, it makes guys overthink simple things and act weird. * Barbara deAngelis said the same about women running The Rules in The Real Rules...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 10:59 AM
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Ooh - I stuck my head in MRI and FPET scanners down in London as part of that...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 10:23 AM
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I don't know about that - what ages is kiss chase played? And the bit in Under Milk Wood where "kiss Gwenny where she says/Or give her a penny" is played?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 10:20 AM
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The nearest I'v ebeen to illegal substances was the display cases used by the drugs Project people - earlier that day. We gave CPR demonstrations during that time window - before covering the rave. Otherwise? When removing cause from casualty...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:52 PM
1

And then someone like you who's on speed and PCP threatens to rip apart a St John Ambulance Crusader vehicle when being transported. I recall my first duty - back in 1993 - a rave put on by Exeter Drugs Project - some numpty threatened to rip apart our road ambulance cos he was on the above combination along with a skinful of cider and rum.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:46 PM
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There's a direct line from the Nolans with Attention To Me in '81, through to Exes and Ohs, via Gretchen Wilson's When I think about cheating...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:30 PM
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Mary Chapin-Carpenter - he Thinks He'll keep her? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tQ4vpdB-24 90s Country tracked it all..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:38 PM
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1993 - Paul McCartney - Mistress and Maid? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Litzq_0Behk I heard this track originally on a Q Magazine compilation.. FUCK! It was all there in the music!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:35 PM
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And when it fails - you have tracks like Buzzcocks' Ever Fallen in love with someone you shouldn't have fallen in love with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:30 PM
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Or maybe because they had been taught that this was the only honourable way to approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 11:04 PM
1

Toss Pillows? As in Steve's cushion rant from S2 of Coupling? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp0-8Ibkczc
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 06:14 PM
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So the "friendship" is in effect protection money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 04:11 PM
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demisexual REO Speedwagon model- was the way it was always taught back in the 70s. Can't Fight This Feeling. One of the many male-voice rock power ballad soliloquies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmo36gnUCWE
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 12:41 PM
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Ok, so apart from the risk of looking like a Rockwell HiMAT after - yeah, I'd use it on her... maybe twin with a head-over-the-side-of-the-bed down the throat blowjob...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 01:02 PM
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Question - if he works in something like 3rd line IT support and had a bastard of a release to do, or a major incident kicked off - and he rainchecked because of that... I trust that wouldn't be a flake?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:06 PM
1

"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am, tuck in the middle with you-uuu"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WROJl6QtNMk
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:06 PM
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So someone like me - 1st gen Asperger Syndrome, gave back after my diagnosis by taking part in all the research studies in the 80s, 90s and 2000s; sexually bullied by all and sundry; stayed chaste as I wasn't about to risk unwanted pregnancy etc, and was taught that you only dated in order to marry (IKDG/Why Wait/Just Good friends); suicidally ate after internalising the same "All men are rapists - THAT MEANS YOU! KILL YOURSELF!" message Scott Aaronson heard in the 80s (aka garbled Dworkin& Fren…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:23 AM
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No, but there would still be endless songs written about it... madness, Amy girl Joe Jackson, is she really going it with him All of Foreigner's output.. ohhhh a LOT of male voice pop and rock output
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:44 AM
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No, but there would still be endless songs written about it... madness, Amy girl Joe Jackson, is she really going it with him All of Foreigner's output.. ohhhh a LOT of male voice pop and rock output
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:43 AM
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For the record, yes, I did look at Rational Male, which talked about The Severing from the 1980s Age of Accountability - in their terms. Basically the classic Evangelical JudeoChristian ethic detailed in books by Joyce Huggett and Josh McDowell... Scott Aaronson is in my cultural cohort. Made MGTOW very attractive - sat out alongside them while trying to understand "affirm granular consent"... Thing is - I've always been a bit of a freethinker - and want to express internally held broadmindednes…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 03:40 AM
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Nolans, Attention to Me- again. "If I walk right up with another guy..." was in verse 3 from memory...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 03:35 AM
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Nah - just a scrupulous Asperger guy who is coming out of really-hardline Evangelical mindset - trying to swap to sex-pos.. Recovering IKDG type- I traumatically ate and repressed everything. Still trying to find the lie of the land..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 06:10 PM
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I had heard the term - but it was confusing... So is it now the case that women have any number of options, but a guy like me has one and only one shot in the dating market - and it's strict monogamy for guys? I am a late-blooming male virgin... do I have to commit to marry in order to experience sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 05:06 PM
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Ahhh - NOW we have a definition of "fuckboy"! A Rake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 12:19 PM
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Sex addiction theory is pushed by Patric Carnes, who is downstream of Mary Koss. It is NOT in the DSM5 or ICD10. It's also been debunked. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007ZRFSWQ/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 Koss erased me as a male victim of female perpetrated sexual abuse. She is directly linked to me suicidally eating for 30 years as I internalised the highly toxic Dworkin/Mackinnon/Koss "you are an evil subhuman rapemonster because penis - and you weren't raped" alongside my ab…
/r/ExRedPill24/09/17 12:26 AM
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Mostly as it was a reaction to The Rules - that taught women that men were subhuman... The rules were a weaponised version of reheated 1950s female gender role... even back then, most men were viewed as subhuman... cf the "Men are rats" clip between Frenchy and Sandy in Grease... after Danny being forced into the douchebag role by Kenickie etc...
/r/ExRedPill23/09/17 04:59 PM
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As a corollary to the stuff your husband is reading in TRP, also look at Barbara DeAngelis's The Real Rules; Game/TRP was a response to The Rules - it's basically Combat Marriage (like Combat Dating). Don't act like the sterotypical Rules Girl (who IIRC had the equiv of a Bug-Out-bag and Bug Out Fund). The "lawyer up and hide funds" instruction is based around the scenario that the wife is cheating on the hapless husband and is preparing to replace him. Part of getting into straight and level fl…
/r/ExRedPill23/09/17 04:37 PM
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Add in the Net turning Em Forster's The Machine stops in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 09:23 AM
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Umm - raises hand - what about the guy who'd been bullied a lot - and had garbled stuff screamed at him, or was abused or gaslit? And traumatically ate- but is working back from that? Any hope for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 05:23 PM
1

What about The Wonder Years?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 12:23 PM
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Watch the musical. The pedlar was what used to be called a "rake".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 08:29 AM
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Cultural data point, pedlar subplot in Oklahoma
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 11:33 PM
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That would be late 80s... Lorna Wing translated Hans Asperger's papers in 1985 - DX'd me in 87.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 06:25 PM
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Dread Game essentially applies the female arsenal back to the woman; cutural data point - 1981 - Nolans - Attention to me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sykj2J--828 Bernie Nolan is listing female dread game - trying to shock a Dead Bear husband out of his inertia.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 10:06 AM
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Here's the clip from the film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3WGkx1MYDQ "Always true to you in my fashion".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:48 PM
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"why can't you behave " reprise from Kiss Me Kate portrays it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 09:45 AM
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Tabasco comes in sachets. Common in MREs.. or small bottle.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 11:59 AM
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And as happened to me, a woman can threaten you with crying rape if you talk about your sexual abuse at her hands. Kept me silent and suicidally eating for 30 years. It's also the Mrs Potiphar gambit, after she was rejected by Joseph.,
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 05:46 AM
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It Is real fur!into courts in the UK. One has to apparently have granular knowledge and consent ahead of time. Which also precludes nervous autistic male virgins losing virginity... Unless "be gentle " from the guy is legally permissible
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 05:19 AM
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Also it's in prosecution advice issued by the UK Director of Public Prosecutions. Basically the element that drives the Crown Prosecution Service. So law of the land in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 01:44 PM
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Re personal is political, an old 1975 BBC interview between Clive James and Germaine Greer had hr explaining "I'm not frigid, you're boring".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 07:35 AM
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I can't help but think of an exchange between George Martin(e) and Douglas Fackler in Police Academy... https://youtu.be/NcQ9diqCKeI?t=53 - "To me, marriage is a sacred institution. So tell me, you and the wife - you do it doggy-style or what?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:23 PM
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"Beautiful girl" is about as accurate as "moment" in terms of definition.. HB[1-9] is applying a stat - so they have the same approx definition.. as in, say "Oh - you pulled someone like Catherine Zeta Jones? COOL!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:16 PM
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Why do I have Summer Nights from Grease running in my head? Same crossmatch h.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 11:22 PM
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I simply know the loudest voices as they were the ones heard in the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 05:31 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Friday
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:05 PM
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Would that be why we have so many Entitled Princesses swanning around now? And this whole up-their-own-arses thing I see on site like Fetlife, where they insist on bullying their partners/charges/victims/whatever? And when, like me, you've deadlifted them from toilet floors etc when I was in St John Ambulance - I just roll my eyes at them? Where would you put Nancy Friday?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 02:53 PM
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Sommers/Steinem split in the 70s. Warren farrell, CHS, Camille Paglia, Doris Lessing, Esther Vilar etc etc are Feminism-in-exile; Steinem's lot are feminism-in-power.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 01:02 PM
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And yet many women calling themselves feminist trip over themselves to fuck the douchebags.... As Erica Jong did....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 03:18 PM
1

Wasn't it in level 1 and level 3 of an earlier release?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:44 AM
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How the hell is that supposed to happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 01:51 PM
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And yet all the YOUGOGIRL stuff promotes casual sex for women... And men have to stay completely chaste and celibate?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 01:36 PM
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Boundless are a conservative Christian site, Harris wrote I Kissed Dating Goodbye...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 01:27 PM
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I recall Boundless promoting that as courtship activity as did Josh Harris...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 01:21 PM
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Because the literal words used... TOXIC - I know that is harmful MASCULINITY - I think that pertains to men. "Toxic masculinity" == Masculinity that is toxic - the only one talked about in the public sphere - "all men are bad". I'm the bad guy? See? Especially when the hapless male victim is told to "man up" unironically...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 01:18 PM
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ESOTERIC definitions - when there is also a colloquial definition... based on the individual words...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 12:50 PM
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It's more how those ideas reached the general public - through mass media. for instance, the "all men are potential rapists" message got sent far and wide - and the resentment at the slander was portrayed by Geirge dent to Helen Cooper in an S3 episode of Drop the dead donkey. Or Helen Slater's "I hate men" to Michale J Fox in The Secret of my success... His line - "Well I'm glad I;m not one.."... And it's gonna take time before ASD folks can do a celebratory reprise of something to match tom Ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 12:47 PM
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Maybe JUST use the term "outdated gender roles" when talking to the public?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 12:27 PM
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"Toxic masculinity" to a layperson like me seems to suggest that apparently I have Original Sin because of my penis... or something... Comes from the TERFs being the loudest element - and a lot of blaming of men. Doris Lessing asked feminists to lay off men in 2001 - and Camille Paglia did recently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8-jRZiXbe4
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 12:26 PM
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Sorry - all I heard was the soundbite.. it was how it came across. I apologise... I was triggered from the mix of sexual abuse by girls and gaslighting my my tutor from back int he 80s, alogn with the "YOU ARE A N INHERENT RAPIST" message - the garbled Dworkin stuff... I am confused. Also comes from the apparent hypocrisy where men can't express any criticism about women - but it's open season on shyer guys... Sentitive Asperger guys like me and Scott Aaronson get hit when loud feminist activist…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 12:23 PM
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When Diane Abbott etc spout how men have to change... or Jess Phillips scoffs at male suicides, or Clem Ford asks "have you killed a man today"...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 11:44 AM
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Maybe use something like "enforced unwanted gender roles" when talking to laypeople like me? Rather than "You are a toxic evil inherent rapey potential bastard because penis - you can never atone".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 09:09 AM
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OK - I don't know what I am talking about. I hear there is this thing called "sex" that according to Maslow, I need to be able to procure in order to be a fully-rounded individual and get my man-card. it appears to be the last "merit badge" that I am missing. I walked away from offers in the past as I was told to not risk getting someone pregnant unless I was able and willing to marry. I am straight. What do I do to become a MAN? It would appear that I have to be willign to commit to a woman who…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 08:45 AM
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Agreed - but I saw Aretha and Dionne - Burt wrote TONS of their stuff...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:43 PM
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.. in a Diana Ross "Upside Down" way - what MGTOW call an Alpha Widow song.. or akin to "the one that got away". Guys? More an "I admit I fucked up - tell me what I did wrong - can we repair this?" (cf level 42, Chicago..)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:43 PM
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Look at the current Scout and Guide promises - Scout promise is still based around an external locus of accountability - God and Queen/Country. Guides is (paraphrased) "me and mine". Both used to be outward...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:39 PM
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Musical/cultural citation - Huey Lewis - Hip to be Square. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Pph3p6zww
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:35 PM
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... and give the Buzzcocks cul-de-sac a swerve?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:32 PM
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"It is men that are willing to become a slave for and to love" ... tot he point that this namechecks a classic Beyan Ferry/Roxy Music track. And about loneliness? Dance Away goes into the songbook alongside how many by Berry Gordy or Holland/Dozier/Holland?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:30 PM
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Interesting- who wrote a lot of the crooning type tracks? Men. Burt bacharach, Neil Sedaka etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:27 PM
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Do I have to be ready to marry the first woman who would have me and take my virginity? As Beyonce seems to suggest that... but then I can be dumped at any time....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 05:06 PM
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Umm - I recall what I watched. Apologies... I just feel confused and a little envious when I saw how the "other side" lived... even on programmes like Unsafe Sex in the city, What Happens in Kavos, and the bacchanal doccos. Observations of the Party Set at uni at the ball duties I worked at... I do wonder... how can I, at approaching 50... possibly experience this "sex" thing before I die? I don't have a clue how to start.. and all I was told through church etc was what not to do. Could i cope w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 04:40 PM
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Yes. http://www.channel4.com/programmes/young-swingers/episode-guide/ There was also one covering Elite Swinging groups - the sexual elite...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 02:42 PM
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Lots of documentaries have been produced and aired...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 08:52 AM
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However, listen to the track "Nobody's Side" from Chess - and then think how it all comes across...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 03:27 AM
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Even worse is if the woman sexually assaults YOU and then DARVOs...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 03:31 PM
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1970s was a lot more unisex than the equivalents in the 1990s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 06:22 PM
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Has anyone noticed how close that is to the Islamic doctrine of Abrogation? Old scriptures replaced by new? What Winston Smith was doing in his job in the Ministry of truth? Or how Orwell described Doublethink? Or the "all animals are equal but some are more equal than others" bit in Animal farm? "We have so very much in co-o-ommon" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecJUqhm2g08
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 01:00 PM
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... by Huxley-style hatcheries...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 12:50 PM
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The Rules was weaponised 1950s hard-to-get. So you had Game developed to flip the script and apply "Rules" manipulation techniques the other way, which turned everything hostile... Barbara deAngelis called out The Rules in The Real Rules - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00CR42LSG/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 She defined the Rules personality as being manipulative and masquerading - and how this made women look like bitches to men. Mix Erica Jong (fuck the Male Chauvinist Pigs and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 12:29 PM
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And to flip it - back in Dialectic of Sex, Shulamith firestone pushed Huxley-type external wombs - from an apparent hatred of childbirth...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 10:24 PM
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That sounds like it was cribbed from the film Wargames, how the FBI guys described David Lightman (Matthew Broderick's character)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 10:21 PM
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"Hone your social skills". How do I do that? Is there an actual curriculum and course I can attend, and who signs off on whether I am good enough to Get A Woman In My Life?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 10:03 AM
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try contrasting Rod Stewart's MAggie May with ABBA's When I Kissed The Teacher...
/r/MensRights14/07/17 07:54 PM
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I saw a few different walks of life when I was in St John Ambulance... And it was a damn sight cheaper for me being there on duty...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 06:05 PM
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Yeah - with one minor hassle. frontal lobes may be optimised for batch-type workloads, not highly interactive jobs like nonverbal-comms-stacks - especially under emulation...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 05:58 PM
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Related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerberos_(protocol) Basically it's a take on how rapidly the "flirt request" ticket times out.. based on having to sync up clocks and then pass the three-way authent... which happens subconsciously... in NTs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 02:04 PM
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I default the other way. "Flirting" seems to have too short a Kerberos timeout for me to sync up in time... So much so that I do wonder from time to time whether it is possible to enter this wonderland called "romance" or "sex" without the requirement to "flirt" - whatever that means...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 10:36 AM
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And when female dishonesty is given a free pass in the culture - to the point of that daytime TV clip where oops-babies are promoted...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 08:44 AM
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Yep - there were a few highly-publicised attempts at "spermjacking" that got a number of guys very scared... IIRC, some NBA guys ONSs tried to entrap. So yes - in case the turkey baster trick was tried - McIlhenny boobytrap hits mucous membrane..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 02:31 PM
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And if that contraception method is sabotaged? Hence the TRP/MGTOW recommendations of Tabasco being applied to the used condom... But it's interesting that the disliked research is starting to see the light of day - was skewed for 40 years...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 02:17 PM
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And flip it - TO THIS DAY TBP don't like mentions of Nancy friday or Anais Nin.. I got banned over there for bringing them up...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 12:44 PM
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Every Man's Battle literally preached the former. /r/gonewild woudl be called "BJ Blowers" and be held up as the "Vapid Slut". Bung in Homer's warnings against Sirens etc (think O Brother Where Art Thou) etc etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 06:39 AM
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Yup.. Oh - and remember that series Employable Me, covering ASD folk being taken on at MS etc? The model they used was that of NAS Prospects- who got me in to my career in 1998 after me being in their control group to set up Prospects in the first place. I was also one of their posterboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 10:31 PM
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Umm - we created Autreat, Autscape; we pushed for all the early understanding. and yes- we had issues with Tactical Autism.. but I am talkign about knowing Jessica Kingsley personally on Martijn Dekker's Independent Living list before she set up JKP.. people like Claire Sinsbury writing AMrtian in the Playground, Liane Holliday-Whilley.. and all the other major activism names... Neurotypical was our term
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 10:20 PM
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And I am on the other end of that teahcing-support loop - I was personally diagnosed by Lorna Wing back in 1987, one of the first to receive an Asperger diagnosis at the Maudsley - so all the big names were involved with me - Uta frith, francesca happe etc etc, all under michael Rutter. Rain Man was released 6 months after my DX. Took part in all the research studies between 1988 and early 2000s. All the MRI and FPET stuff, all of Tony Attwood ad Simon B-C's stuff.. was part of the early online …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 10:14 PM
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Some ASD folks are claiming him as poss diagnosed... Same as Bill Hicks... And Gary Numan etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 09:39 PM
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Vasectomies/RISUG/Vasalgel on the NHS? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 06:01 PM
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Led to some really good classic music though - The Doors - People are strange... Joe Jackson - Is she really going out with him... ALL of Morrissey's stuff...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 07:54 AM
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There is the issue of Informed Consent. Back during the height of the AIDS crisis, the training of the day stipulated that people were absolutely honest re sexual history - or at least STD status, as they were impacting someone else's health.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:36 PM
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Where does 5 ft 11 for a guy come on that scale?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:37 PM
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And bung in the Duluth Pussypass and the Mk 1 Comins False Rape Accusation fail-deadly..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 08:31 AM
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As long as they are the ones using men as placeholders cf Taylor Swift Blank Space or Elle Knight Exes and Ohs. Interesting how Olly Murs is following Marc Almond - You Don't know love echoing Say Hello Wave Goodbye...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 08:29 AM
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Would you view the tactics threatened by Bernie Nolan in the track "Attention to Me" as immoral? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sykj2J--828 Lists stages 1-8 of feminine Dread Game as listed by Athol Kay... TRP flipped the script - after the gender war turned into a shooting war... They were legit arguments though... but with proxy power and weaponising of false claims etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 08:21 AM
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Which was a reaction to The Rules - weaponised "leading on" by women... DeAngelis called that shit out...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 08:14 AM
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People like Gail Dines try to save women from themselves, and break "nothing about us without us" in the process... Same dynamic that runs in the autism community - pissing off ASD folk... the relationship between ASD-negative bodies like Autism $peaks and ASD folk is analogous to the trans community and TERFs, or the sex-work community and SWERFs... Then you get arseholes like Bindel aiming proxy power int he form of police MP5s at male skulls...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 02:04 PM
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It's fun to see how it's impossible to synthesise a logical structure between Hite and Dworkin...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 02:03 PM
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And yet some of the loudest voices in the culture promote that... for women... (Cf Elle Knight Exes and Ohs etc) If anything, one of the few saving graces RP does is calls out the hypocrisy visible by flipping the script.. but Male Chauvinism 101 / Rape 101 doesn't sit well with my conscience personally.. Been rewatching Grease and other classic films recently - and I can see the TRP characters in Sonny Latierri (Grease) etc - and hwo they were called out for being the predatory SOBs they are...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 01:49 PM
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I rwally don't understand what "working on myself" means. I am an IT capacity planner by profession I am diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome. I am trying to lose weight. I am a Baptist Christian. I suffered relentless bullying - some of which was sexual - throughout my childhood. What standard do I have to reach to be able to be worth sex? Do I have to be the spitting image of Chris Hemsworth in order to get basic missionary? How do I get to experience what I hear about on documentaries? What do I …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 09:21 AM
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Ok, somi am not entitled, but how do I earn my way to the Land of Abundant sex? With women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 06:21 AM
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Male mate-guarding - in culture - the Dr Hook track When you're in love with a beautiful woman - from 1978 approx - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gutSCU4-3Q Female mate-guarding - Gretchen Wilson - Homewrecker - 1990s. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS_3MhPHeLU
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 06:40 PM
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And Witchwind is quoting TERFs like Dworkin, Mackinnon and Bindel.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 08:37 AM
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Chronicled from the male perspective (OK - maintaining AF aspects re weight etc namechecked) in Huey Lewis's Hip to be Square. And if he fails? The Mary C-C track above.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:07 PM
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Why do I have Mary Chapin-Carpenter's track "He thinks he'll keep her" running? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tQ4vpdB-24 Heard it for the first time on an old Q Magazine Country compilation I borrowed from Exmouth library
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:05 PM
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Ahh - this is where the granular consent model comes in -
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 03:08 PM
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The baseline teaching that RP comes from is sex-neg abstinence teaching and the like. Tracking from Augustine and Jerome...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 12:05 PM
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In the context of sex-negative teaching, "You made me love you / I didn't want to do it..." - a ravishment fantasy plays out as a "rape" fantasy. Was a common trope in 1970s potboilers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 11:53 AM
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AND another song ripping the piss out of them - John Miles - Glamour Boy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yZSRhULzqM From the album Stranger in the City (1976) - my dad had it on vinyl back in the day... From my perspective - some of them were at the balls I worked at - they all look the same when you're rolling 'em into recovery after they overdid the booze...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 07:29 PM
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"implying you're a faggot".... as portrayed by Mark Knopfler way back in 1985? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 07:25 PM
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Down to gender policing. Back in the 1920s, Pretty Boy was probably synonymous with "gay"/LGBT. Crossref Noel Coward in his musical "Bittersweet" - the song Green Carnation. The green carnation was a covert gaydar transponder - Oscar Wilde wore one.. Lyrics - https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=mwbZAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=song+lyrics++bittersweet+green+carnation&source=bl&ots=0SlvKNEvfD&sig=X6zAGOEc6-S31BvjlZd4afGUEPk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD94_819TUAhVrB8AKHSaSBFoQ6AEIRDAG#v=onepage&q=song…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 07:19 PM
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And at college balls - I was part of the team looking after them while they were sleeping off a good hit on the vodka luges...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 04:29 PM
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Could I honestly see those women don St John Service Delivery uniform? Get to know them as colleagues and friends during duties - and then maybe segue into a relationship based on more than just what they look like? Cos I'm autistic and I think the term is "demisexual".. I spin up based on trust levels...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 12:13 PM
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Bill Hicks saw differently - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeavNauY59o
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 10:16 PM
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Concur - I rememebr when I reported my historical sexual abuse at the hands of predatory girls to the police - I referred to the garbled Dworkin/Mackinnon Political Lesbianism message I had internalised - the "All men are inherent rapists" one - which I absorbed as "... that means you. Your penis makes you a rapist - you are a rapist - kill yourself" leading to suicidal eating. Also CF - https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/3peria/how_should_a_man_appropriately_respond_to_a/ Basically …
/r/ExRedPill20/06/17 09:23 AM
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Try the very loud "all men are inherent rapists" stuff, SNAG indoctrination, and (int he Christian community) all the I Kissed Dating Goodbye stuff. How to completely nerf a couple of generations. AND- AIDS, abstinence teaching - especially if guys are being highly scrupulous...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 09:14 AM
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Yiup - and Warren farrell was trying to free men from the SuccessObject role - and was booted out of NOW for his efforts. Greer et al wanted meatsack automatons and scapegoats...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 09:07 AM
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Is there any hope at all if a guy is Asperger? What do I need to do to experience any of this wondrous stuff called enthusiastic sex? Or is it never going to happen and I did a loveless virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 07:00 AM
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It was common back in the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:50 AM
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Probably more the case that sexual approaches have become legal Kafkatraps...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 07:11 AM
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There was a protest at the premiere of Suffragette, as Refuge were being told by the Uk Govt to share the revenue and creatre male DV shelter spaces.. they refused.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 04:47 AM
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When feminism was more egalitarian - in the 90s, this was actually pushed and held to.. CF Warren Farrell on Oprah - he was chair of NY NOW in the 70s, pushign fro men to be released from the Success Object role - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azc6U2O6Q2s And Joy Behar versus Patti Stanger - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeQKCUXdEfo Behar is old-school feminist.... Patti is an entitled arsehole. Funnily enough - BArbara DeAngelis was making the same observations about the women behind The Ru…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:45 PM
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oh - and add conservative evangelical mindset to the mix...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 06:16 PM
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Try the 1940s cartoon strip..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 05:29 PM
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OK - internal and external views - it all gets VERY confusing on the outside.. so I just defaulted after my abuse to "desexualise everything", and then I had the whole I kissed dating goodbye stuff - that ramped uip my false guilt even more.. and THEN chuck in a load of scrupulosity.. and Viz Comic.. LOTS of anxiety-led eating..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 05:23 PM
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Possibly - I am general public.. so I just saw how 2nd wave radfem played out in the legal sphere and in the mass media. for example - a lot of "I hate men" lines in films - eg The Secret of My Success (1987), all the fish/bike stuff in stuff like A Very Peculiar Practice, BBC news footage of protests - programmes like Angry Wimmin - covering the TERF/SWERF contingent... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCRohDqWDcw Granted - it all got confusing - but the sloganeering and public face led to the M…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 04:59 PM
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Oh - they were. It was just that "sex-positivity" is downstream of Jessica Valenti - whose upstream feeds were MacDworkin and Jong. Led to the Fainting Couch feminism as opposed to, say, Paglia's "Street Amazon feminism". Sommers and Paglia wanted to get out there - their strand led to the more assertive sexually aggressive style, including the Ladette stuff... I think we're violently agreeing with each other. I just lived through the whole loud sex-neg radfem stuff...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 04:21 PM
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"sex-pos" has Dworkin/MAckinnon sex-neg radfem baked into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 04:01 PM
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Or a strong maternal presence - hence Gail Dines/Charlotte Proudman "prostituted women, the poor little lambs" rhetoric... which pisses off sex workers - denying the sex worker's agency... Shariah again - except this time you have the muttawa.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 03:42 PM
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It wouldn't. At all. Kills off the extreme ends of the ability curve.. which then dulls down the extreme intelligence that comes with ASD... SSRIs, geared for the neurotypical brain - are the worst thing to bung into an autistic brain.
/r/ExRedPill12/06/17 03:35 PM
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The Nordic model has been decried by sex workers - who proposed the Australia/New Zealand model. AMnesty are now pushing the Australia/New Zealand model - and pissing off Julie Bindel and Gail Dines while doing so. The green Party in the Uk are now standing with Amnesty re legalising sex work. SWERFs like Gail Dines are basically the same as the Victorian sex-neg lot. "Nothing about us without us" is a common protest for any marginalised group - I'm Asperger - it's used a lot by the ASD communit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 03:33 PM
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Ritalin was handed out like Smarties to ASD folk in the 90s in the States - I remember the shouting matches we had across the Pond in the early online autism communities... we Brits were screaming "WTF DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING?!"
/r/ExRedPill12/06/17 11:53 AM
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Since when was "in good faith" only " agree with me"? Scott Aaronson was accused of not taking 3rd wave feminism in good faith - how more good faith can you take something when you take it at face value?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 10:16 AM
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reason is that 3rd wave has Dworkin/Mackinnon and Erica Jong mixed in - the worst aspects of condemning a guy for his sex drive - only female spontaneous desire is good - AND Jong's objectification of a guy as either a walking wallet or a dildo. Contrast Nancy Friday...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 10:14 AM
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Fusilade of 500ml plastic bottles filled with human waste starts.. https://youtu.be/_hnxies4Wtk
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 05:13 AM
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And possibly worse for scrupulous men who never had a chance to explore their sexuality- or even knew that was a possibility...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 12:16 AM
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Is it possible for a 50 year old male virgin to join the party?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 12:00 AM
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Point taken - just takes a lot of unlearning, that's all...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 03:10 PM
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Hmm - so is this clip out of Hitch "creepy"? https://youtu.be/YQ3uYWobbOA?t=61
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 03:08 PM
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It's a complete inversion to the training that I received back in the 70s and 80s from mainstream...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 10:50 AM
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I am confused about the "practice" rule. Apparently this is by default Creepy. So I don't ever get the chance to switch out of Professional Service Mode. Do I lead with a request for permission to personalise, and then to sexualise the conversation? As in asking her directly for permission?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 09:43 AM
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Already in progress - finding MMSL helped me decouple the suicidal eating from MacDworkin screeching internally...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 01:32 PM
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Or if I manage to claw back fromt he traumatic eating (which was ramped up during the I Kissed Dating Goodbye period - and left me with tons of false guilt), and rejoin St John Ambulance - and just let someone come on to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 01:22 PM
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Only time I had really been around Balls and Parties were when I was on duty there as part of St John Ambulance cover.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 01:20 PM
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So no hope of ever being good enough to woo and win the heart of a lady?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:21 PM
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no social group. autistic. shy. loner. introvert. what do i do? even if suited and booted?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 06:24 PM
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Hmm- and yet if you read Fear of Flying - Erica Jong viewed the men her character shagged as a life support system for a wallet and a dick. Who's objectifying now? Sounds like the best impression of a Eumig S820 8mm PROJECTOR...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 01:05 PM
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So it's the same as the "flee lust" stuff in the Bible? So if I assume brother/sister dynamic same as in church? But then trying to move to romantic mode is stymied as I have anti-incest limbic taboos running. But how can a scrupulous guy navigate to seeing and processing in a romantic and sexual mode legitimately? Is it back to the first time I think sexually when the pastor says "you may now kiss the bride"? I thought Feminism was supposed to free us all from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:50 PM
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I'm not very comfortable at bars and imdon't get to Tokyo parties. What should a shy introvert on the periphery do? Would church be an ok venue? Or can I engage a matchmaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:37 PM
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They were terms applied to some of the "weaponised hard to get" stuff pulled from The Rules, and how to overpower them.. Yep - 1950s reheated- and to avoid being slutshamed - by other women. Verse 2 of Grease 2 "reproduction" - "But they change their tune when you got 'em in the back seat..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwM0SPJ9Gj0 Has been retired from what I gather - but was part of v1.0 Game... but was also very predatory. On rewatch, it would have been classed as "pressing your advantage…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 05:39 PM
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And then when you start seeing SWERFs and similar acting as muttawa in France? And Gilead being a hardline-Christian ISIS-type deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 05:22 PM
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Alogn the same timeframe, you had Dworkin&Mckinnon teaming up with James Dobson and the Meese Commission against porn etc... the Sex Wars were at their height. In the UK - David Alton and Mary Whitehouse trying to push against the greater liberalisation in media... Nancy friday also commented about the authoritarian streak in Feminism acting in concert with Reagan/Thatcher.. she commented on it in Women On Top - saying how the fun period was dying out... Hello TERFs and tradcons.. https://www.go…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 05:15 PM
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I was trying to find the crossmatch to Valenti's shirt juxtaposed over war deaths etc..
/r/MensRights28/05/17 04:31 PM
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Already done. Valenti et al are covered in this thread - https://np.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/4m9s44/on_male_tears/
/r/MensRights28/05/17 11:57 AM
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Also happened IRL on Pitcairn
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 06:37 AM
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Remind you of Dworkin, Mackinnon, Dobson - and Phyllis Schafly on the flipside? Conservative and Patriarchal Dominance Feminism - or the flip of it.. Nancy friday saw this coming in her book Women on Top - as the Sex Wars were in progress alongside the Meese Commission..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 06:42 AM
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Trp was formed after The Rules, which promoted manipulation and abuse as a sexual strategy for women. And then we go scorched earth...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 07:21 AM
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Or loads of women bellowing out to Elle Knight's Exes and Ohs at the local karaoke bar... and isn't the corollary of.. "... 1 2 3 they always come up to me.. but they never wanna leave..." "... she took my love and ran around / WIth every single guy in town..." ?
/r/ExRedPill24/05/17 09:06 AM
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The problem there is that if you're brought up as a Christian - what's one of the Beatitudes? "Blessed are the meek, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven". A society is judged by how they treat the weakest...
/r/ExRedPill24/05/17 08:54 AM
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After her arguments had been torn apart by Wendy McElroy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 07:33 AM
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And then you see women bragging about their party years - and I read that while watching Guitar Heroes at the BBC on BBC4 - and Dave Edmunds is performing "I knew the bride when she used to rock and roll"...
/r/ExRedPill22/05/17 04:02 PM
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Lots of warnings of the "feminine shadow" are menitoned in pop music - music being today's poetry...
/r/ExRedPill22/05/17 07:55 AM
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If you think how Daryl Hall and John Oates would sound in the lyrics of Maneater, or Don Henley in Lying Eyes, or Dion/Racey inthe lyrics of Runaround Sue.. or Neil Sedaka when he penned The Queen of 1964... These are cited over on MGTOW groups.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/17 09:50 PM
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Oh- you gotta love Jessica valenti...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 09:09 PM
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.. or female-on-male rape by envelopment. Defined by Mary Koss as "mere unwanted contact".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 07:59 PM
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Which is why escorts are seei
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 08:55 AM
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Oh - the 4 girls who wanted to return to the Uk after joining ISIS?
/r/MGTOW19/05/17 09:15 PM
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From watching the Channel 4 series Coppers - not much difference on either side. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3wdtRuJOk4
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 02:11 PM
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Most embarrassing 23 minutes of my life were at Bicton College Valentine Ball in 1996. I was part of the St John Ambulance cover at that event - covering the area near a low stage. Couple had a 20-min kneetrembler - full on fucking against the wall - at 20 degrees off the centreline of my arc of responsibility. Loo shagging as well- saw that when I did the periodic checks of the loos for people who had been passed out... As Etta James would comment - "Honey - the things I saw..."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 10:47 AM
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doesn't help when the pussypass is stipulated by a misandrist DPP's prosecution guidelines..
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 10:11 AM
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Prosecution guidelines got put in which asked QCs to be lenient - because vagina, apparently.
/r/MensRights17/05/17 09:22 AM
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Curious - how does that map onto the fruits of the Holy Spirit as listed in Galatians? Love, Joy , peace, patience, tenderness, goodness, self-control?
/r/ExRedPill16/05/17 02:04 PM
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Can scrupulosity generate a false "creep" flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 11:57 AM
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YMY or Affirm Consent is effectively the legal standard in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:48 AM
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Catherine Comins, when she wrote VAWA, also weaponised the false rape accusation. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cath+comins+false+rape&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=UDUYWfXXM_TR8gfek4HYCg
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:47 AM
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Fuck off Cath Comins; haven't you done enough damage?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:04 AM
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"too insecure"... or prohibited by an overarching ethos, say evangelical Christianity. In that mode, you are taught that you are NOT your own. So it confused me when this body-autonomy stuff started getting propagated...
/r/ExRedPill13/05/17 06:27 PM
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As CHS said - her lot (more egalitarian) won the public argument - while the misandrists got tenure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Y9ufTJ0uU
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 12:50 PM
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"He had it comin'" from Cell Block Tango, anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:04 AM
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MAry Daly and sally Miller Gearhart wrote the first Gender Studies curricula. There's you rmotherlode, or queen's nest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:03 AM
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reason why I apply capacity-planning rules to baselining my senses before I did ball duties... ITSP and Asperger
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:44 AM
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You can thank Cath Comins for that...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:41 AM
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Happened in the UK back in the 70s and 80s...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 02:18 PM
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Also led to the Duluth Model etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 02:16 PM
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It's when that complaint against a specific dude gets Greer'd into "all men are..." through deafening megaphones and onto the news and into statute...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 02:14 PM
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Those nerds may well have been in uniform as part of the medical or security cover at those events, keeping your arse alive when you overdid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 10:25 AM
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Then again - think back to the drug-use thread. The BP viewpoint was very much of the party-animal... I skew a little more purple as I was in St John uniform at those events....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:57 PM
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Add Barbara Ellen handwaving Assault ABH against men...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 03:52 PM
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But all those guys "male rape victim, or a homeless man, or a suicidal man, or a beaten man, or a falsely imprisoned man etc" - get hit -as the lay definition of "toxic masculinity" plays out as "bad men"... and splash damage occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 09:08 PM
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Does to a layperson.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 07:45 PM
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Mary fucking Daly and Sally Miller fucking Gearhart were pretty damn serious when they proposed male massacre int he 80s... Valerie Solanas was pretty fuckign serious when she fired 2 rounds at Andy Warhol...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:13 PM
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Ummm- "privilege beign revoked"? Come again? Try me. Mary Koss erasing me as a victim of female-perp sexual abuse Germaine Greer saying I should be incarcerated as a male victim as i am somehow a threat... Julie Bindel wanting me dead as I am XY... Remember how i suicidally ate from all that... "Privilege"? I do NOT have the world on a stick... please do not condescend and presume I do... Try ALL OVER Twitter and Tumblr.. TIA is the public face in a lot of cases..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:10 PM
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The male tears stuff hits a LOT of guys suffering from depression and despair from sirect shitty actions from shitty women... bolstered by shitty feminist activism...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:44 PM
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Bartender. He was in work mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 09:35 AM
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And yet Trigglypuff exists...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:48 PM
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To think musically - EAGLES- New kid in town as opposed to GODLEY & CREME - Wedding Bells.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 08:28 PM
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Yes - but when Chad is the one that Sheryl Sandberg said "get your oats with"...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 05:30 PM
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Fundamental difference between men and women - it's all cumulative for many guys - or the ones who veer more demi..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 06:08 PM
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Ohhh - the US version of Jeremy Kyle...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:54 PM
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As in MOTEL : "That may be true Reb Tevye, but even a poor tailor is entitled to some happiness!" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 12:47 PM
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And then you factor in Germaine Greer waxing lyrical about teenage boys - or Eve Ensler saying "Niiice" re a teenage lesbian rape...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 11:23 PM
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And legal. Julie Bindel pushed Nottingham Police to make the laws in Notts more like Titipu...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:24 AM
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Nancy Friday mentioned that in Women On Top - after the Dworkin/Mackinnon/Dobson thing in the 80s. "We'll be on the fast track with our feet bound".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:52 AM
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Mary Koss still left out male victims of female perps...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:45 AM
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Mary Koss still left out male victims of female perps...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:45 AM
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Asperger guy here - and yes - cf Athol Kay and Maxine Aston - Game/PUA was applying RPG dynamics and coding...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 12:43 PM
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And when guys raised as "good guys" - eg did time in Scouts or St John or similar - the male subjecting himself to external authority (".. do my duty to God and to the Queen"/"For the faith, for the service of mankind") is faced with post-feminist Guide ethos ("duty to me and mine") - it throws you for a loop..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 01:22 PM
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Didn't Beauty and the Geek play this out?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 09:15 AM
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And I lose count of the number of those entitled princesses I rolled into recovery position and hauled out of toilet at college balls. The balls societies Re the nearest to frats in the British uni system. Oh, memories from St John Ambulance uniform days.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:46 AM
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THanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 04:00 PM
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Look at my story.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:21 AM
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Is it on-tiopic to bring up the flipside to this - as in the massive false guilt that highly scrupulous guys, more often than not on the autism spectrum experience? As Scott aaronson reported from back in the 80s and 90s? As in the scrupulous seeking permission to acknowledge and spin up their sexual processing to at least integrate it? Without the crushing guilt? Also relevant... http://www.intimacy4us.co.za/tips-for-him/176-what-every-christian-man-needs-to-know-about-sex.html https://www.thea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 11:41 PM
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Warren Farrell was chairman of New York's chapter of the National Organisation for Women for 3 years in the 1970s - then was booted out when he challenged men's Success Object gender role. CHS was a feminist in good standing until about 1993.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:14 PM
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Not quite. Ti-Grace Atkinson (high up in NOW at the time) proposed her for some high level award in Feminism at the time...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:12 PM
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One thing talked about on the MMSL boards was systematising and cultuvating the Inner Bad Boy to bring out the Inner Bad Girl. Kind of stuff covered on sites like marriedheat.com, christiannymphos etc... Although it's difficult when being Aspie - I may not necessarily have enough spoons to do Full Husband And Father...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 03:58 PM
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Umm - HOW MANY songs have been written about this very dynamic? Off the top of my head - Tracks of my tears, What becomes of the brokenhearted, HArd ot say I'm sorry, Somebody to Love... All genres, all styles...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 09:50 PM
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iPlayered the recent Stepford Wives remake the other day; this was originally a feminist book, right? Also I'm autistic and was heavily bullied in the 70s.. and seem to run a responder on inbound sexual channels... So i have never fit into tight gender roles...
/r/ExRedPill11/04/17 07:01 PM
1

Especially when the female rapist uses it as a weapon to silence her male victim as happened with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 07:23 AM
1

Especially when the female rapist uses it as a weapon to silence her male victim as happened with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 07:22 AM
2

Especially when the female rapist uses it as a weapon to silence her male victim as happened with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 07:22 AM
2

Example : Julie Bindel pushed the kafkatrap change to harassment rules to Notts police.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 06:56 AM
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Problem is - many of them apparently blamed the grunts actually conscripted... the cry "Howzit gong, baby killer" echoes down the ages from when DEROS hit (I remember reading about that in NAM- The Vietnam Experience)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 02:41 PM
7

He's known as Jody to the squaddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 02:33 PM
1

Interesting how the desire for "a girl like you to come into my life" or any other Foreigner line describes the supercharged male-mother-need that Warren Farrell writes about in Women don;t hear what men can't say... And Erica Jong was much more of an objectifier than guys are deep-down..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:26 PM
1

Would someone who... was diagnosed AS back in the 80s took part in all the research studies that led to the support kids have now was heavily active in St John Ambulance etc. works in IT capacity planning be a high beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 04:50 PM
1

Don't really know- but sadly I gained a LOT of weight from suicidal eating for 30 years due to the mix of sexual bullying and gaslighting, amilifed by Team Dworkin/Brennan.. I get a cumulative rating of 8.5 on ilikeyou, but the mix of mobility and Asperger burnout took its toll... I'm 5ft 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 10:37 AM
1

As was on Leykis last night?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 02:17 PM
1

"The homosexual agenda" "Jezebel Spirit" and similar terms are used in con-evo preaching - cf David Jeremiah, Michael Youssef, John MacArthur.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 11:13 AM
1

Consider that if their mental model is closer to John MacArthur and other conservative evangelical pastors... "People worked out how sex worked - I mean, children were being born..." - an actual quote from a Grace To You broadcast - I think it was on Corinthians... The ONE tactic they had been supplied with regarding anything about sex outside heteronormative heterosexual monogamous marriage was "FLEE". https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/understanding-evangelicalism-why-not-only-or-best…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:47 AM
1

Anyone hearing Pink Floyd's track "Mother" from The Wall? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFBf_alErog
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:11 AM
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The ideal for a Christian techie like me would be that mix of responsible girl next door - who'd gleam and pull me into one of the prayer rooms for a quickie or get a little frisky once I'd soundchecked the worship band or prepped the Easyworship schedule. (thanks to marriedheat for that one)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:05 AM
1

I seem to recall CS Lewis cover this in Screwtape's Letters.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 07:33 PM
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I don't hate women. I hate Mary Koss for erasing me as a male victim of female-perpetrated sexual assault... ... Germaine Greer for saying that as said victim I should be incarcerated as I am somehow some kind of threat... .... Julie Bindel for wanting me dead for the crime of being born as a white heterosexual male... Because somehow I am guilty of Original Sin or "Privilege" for being straight, white, male and autistic... Oh - add Mary Daly, Sally Miller Gearhart...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:32 PM
2

BUt you are hitting diagnosed Asperger people as part of the splash damage - and if you are allistic, you are NTsplaining Aspeger Syndrome to an Aspie. Ableism. You are punching down. Stop that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:21 PM
2

I would like to ask- whay am I of less worth as a human being - or somehow subhuman simply because I am autistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 11:42 AM
1

Nearest I got to that party scene were the college balls I worked at while in St John Ambulance in the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 10:12 AM
1

Depends who you talk to. If the woman concerned has more of a male-pattern brain, as can be common on the autism continuum (and some of us male Aspies can be a bit more seahorse-like) - the sexual aggression can be greater...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:25 PM
1

It could be said that Party World is what is portrayed on Girls Gone Wild, What happens in Kavos, Ibiza Uncovered etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 09:18 AM
1

Anyone else hearing Richard Burton as O'Brien lecturing Winston Smith in the Ministry of Love?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:56 AM
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Question - how do you do that with battered or nonexistent self-worth? And the only validation as a Sexual Man is that bestowed by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:28 AM
1

And consider that where abstinence education holds sway - the only material that portrays women as being enthusiastic about sex is.... porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:11 AM
1

"bbc" or "big black cock" is a common trope in porn...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 09:38 PM
1

Even there - if you think back to Doris Day's track "Move Over Darling" - this was all her rationalising and traversal through what TRP/Game originally called LMR - "Our lips shouldn't touch... I like it too much... You captured my heart, and now that I'm no longer free..." It still causes cognitive dissonance as it goes against "ask for permission"...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 09:23 AM
1

have a read of Every Man's battle and other stuff like covenantEyes.. they literally push madonna/Whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:24 PM
1

Anyone else getting Adam Pontipee's (played by Howard Keel) description of Milly in "Bless Yore Beautiful Hide" from 7 Brides playing in their head? "Pretty and trim, but not too slim/ Heavenly eyes and just the right size / Simple and sweet.. and SASSY as can be..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7OJs10y5t0
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 10:27 AM
1

Billy Graham regularly preached and practised this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 07:10 AM
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More the case that the American Purity Culture authors recommended sequestering into a subculture. rev Moore from Footloose wasn't just a parody. Remember - we're talking kids who internalised tipper gore...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 11:03 AM
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Hmmm - "serial philandering". Called the Zipless Fuck or Leaning iN when women do it? Why is a guy called a rake or philanderer when he does the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:15 PM
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It REALLY didn't help matters when Ellen Fein and the other one released The Rules, weaponising 1950s hard-to-get - Barbara de Angelis called them out as the manipulative masquerading bitches they were. Game was a reaction to this. And I'll repeat - if you crossmatch Neil Strauss with Maxine Aston - it systtematises it for us autistic STEM folk so we can pattern-match inbound IOIs etc.. I dove for the nuclear shelters as the ordnance rained down..
/r/ExRedPill24/03/17 10:36 PM
1

Female dread game - and escalating it - was portrayed in the lyrics to Attention To Me by the Nolans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sykj2J--828 Notice that Bernie is addressing Dead Bear husbands. Lyrics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REjBImPE3og
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:51 PM
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Mostly down to Michael Kimmell beign downstream of Dworkin/Mackinnon - and the messages that go out being "If you have a penis, you are Rapey McrapePerson. Kill yourself."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 05:47 PM
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The problem is that it can be the only portrayal of women enjoying sex a boy can see if he got baked in abstinence-only teaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 05:44 PM
1

Pitcairn, here we come again..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 04:55 PM
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Worse. The #masculinitysofragile or #lolmaletears crap being brought up in the way Mary Koss erased me - a male victim of female-perp rape.. or Jessica Valenti erased me when I explained how YMY could be abused to frame a guy fro his own rape, letting the female rapist off scott-free... Or Big Red singing Cry me a river re that guy's suicide... I was suicidal when I was sexually abused by predatory girls then blamed by my militantly Dworkin feminist tutor back at school..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 04:50 PM
1

Hmm - when JudeoChristianity turns despotic (as in fascist countries like Germany in the 30s), you had two churches. The cultural church - nationalist The confessing church - more Bible-based and altruistic. Martin Niemoller came from this strand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 04:42 PM
1

Interesting thought pattern. Taking power is a fascist mindset - as opposed to the JudeoChristian or egalitarian idea of granting power - along with the view that "with great power comes great responsibility".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 04:37 PM
1

Was that also the reaction towards Jess when she scoffed at male suicides in that Select Committee?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 04:35 PM
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Being alone and kinds flatbound, I've had to use the odd commercial phonesex service to test what is running in my limbic system - and it would appear that one of the major aspects of my arousal IS the enjoyment and arousal of said partner... or that as a concept. Well - if it's there in concept... hopefully it would be there if I was ever fortunate enough to experience sex during my lifetime...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 02:02 PM
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Hmm - very difficult when autistic... Friends First was an explicit instruction - working to get past that.. but in the words assigned to Chip in On The Town (I suspect this character, played by Frank Sinatra on screen, was ASD) "but my thoughts get mangled and my words get tangled..."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 10:08 AM
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.. or they were told that others were idiots. CF Xemnas's bit about how the SNAG was promoted back in the 70s-90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 09:47 AM
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Doesn't stop Bindel turning approaching women in Notts into a kafkatrap
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 08:52 PM
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And when you get a research fellow at Lincoln University who has stated publicly that she wants heterosexuality to die, or for all white males to be shot on sight - and when she meets with a chief Constable to make social contact across the gender divide a Kafkatrap.. Hence Kat Mcsnatch;s "You are a cunt" song was aimed at Julie Bindel..
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 08:33 PM
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NOthing new - "I got hoes in different area codes", anyone? Or how about chris Rock's bit on Never Scared about the same stuff? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWvi9dfB4jU
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 12:03 PM
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Oh - it gets better. Brownmiller didn't like Jong - Erica Jong wanted to fuck the MCPs or Chads - or her own construction of the Chad - who she objectified to a greater extent - all written uip in fear of Flying and played out in Looking for Mr Goodbar. Browmiller thought she was a slut...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 01:15 PM
1

"Your feminism" doesn't define public policy. Germaine Greer's and Julie Bindel's do. Remember them? The TERFs who are now persona non grata?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 07:41 AM
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.. which in turn is reinforcing toxic gender norms... and the very same feminists shame the male virgins for not living up to being "real men" - or plowhorses...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 10:35 AM
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Thanks for shaming my brain wiring.. you do not BECOME autistic - you're born that way..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 10:33 AM
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It can still hurt - to be fair. Actually part of The Man Box... Can also be a double-bind, especially if the guy is devout... and when men are supposed to be constantly up for it.. and shamed for that very expected behaviour...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 10:31 AM
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Under V1 of the Power Wheel, it did collapse down to "arrest the dude". Ellen Pence admitted cognitive bias late in 2015.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 02:42 PM
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... as actually happened when Jessica Vaneti and Amanda Marcotte went off half-cocked against Susan Brownmiller..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 02:27 PM
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.. even though they influenced Michael Kimmell (Aggreived Entitlement Theory) and Patric Carnes (Sexual addiction - recently debunked).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 02:25 PM
1

Elle Knight describes the MO in her track Exes and Ohs...
/r/MGTOW11/03/17 01:04 PM
1

HR lady to Tom Cruise early in Cocktail - "Can you be a minority woman?"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 10:18 PM
1

I cite erica Jong. The Zipless Fuck was her main idea - objectify and use a guy as an embodies dildo.. Pump and dump "like the MCP Douchebags do"...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 02:51 PM
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However, the shame/blame stuff pushed by Michael Kimmell towards men "Men, you are all part of rape culture - feel guilty! nobody cares about your pee-pee" etc... are ALL downstream of Dworkin/Mackinnon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 02:49 PM
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Ask Erin Pizzey. Back in the 80s, "all men are rapists, all men are Pol Pot" was the public face. Basically Team Brennan's output was deafeningly loud...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 02:38 PM
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"So can I rape you now?" "Don't be silly! its' not rape is a Muslim does it!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecJUqhm2g08
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 10:47 AM
2

Hmm - women marrying robots. Didn't Connie Francis state this as a desire back in the 50s?
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 10:44 AM
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Are TRP beliefs really that false when the actions described are lauded in the kind of Elle Knight lyric belted out over karaoke rigs?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:37 PM
2

You can thank Julie Bindel for that one.. I remember the Twitter traffic although I can't find it now - she met with Notts police chiefs... She is also the one who wanted to see heterosexuality die...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:28 PM
1

Umm - thanks for NTsplaining Asperger Syndrome - I know that stuff - my lived reality. I didn't know body language existed before I read Allan Pease's stuff on it.. and the "passive sonar" aspect of Game stuff is useful - as it described IOIs and other stuff to pattern-match for... Unless you're a fellow Aspie...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:47 AM
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Add loud voices like Julie Bindel calling for bullpup rifles at the back of men's skulls and her pushing the new rules of engagement re approaching women to Notts Police...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:36 AM
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Hmm - being that I AM an Asperger guy... I woul dtake it literally! ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 10:14 AM
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Please explain to me what is so offensive about the guy with Asperger Syndrome?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 06:00 AM
1

Concur. Josh McDowell's Why Wait and Joyce Huggett's Just Good friends were released in 1987...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 10:21 PM
1

Yes.
/r/MGTOW28/02/17 03:55 PM
1

Funny how I don't recall the character voiced by Rod Stewart in Maggie May being elated...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:42 PM
1

I lost count of the number of times Channel 4 reran that programme...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 03:28 PM
2

Some fucking joke...
/r/MensRights20/02/17 10:19 AM
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When you're autistic, stuff like body language and social rules have to be learned by rote or cognitively. The coprocessors aren't there. It's often called "neurotypical emulation" - or we called it that back in the 90s on the old autism LISTSERV lists... RP was reverse-engineered stuff from Rules presentation etc..
/r/ExRedPill17/02/17 09:38 PM
2

Why did I have Foreigner's track "Feels like the first time" playing in my head on reading that article? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3sfBQdrgiU
/r/RedPillWives14/02/17 11:13 AM
3

Or "fuckboi"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:48 PM
1

Do I detect someone who's poured friends into taxis a few times too often? ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 04:23 PM
1

Memories of treatment rooms full of modelesque types sleeping it off under cellular blankets while I get another coffee and dump my response bag for a break during an all-night duty - knowing the uni would be giving me a decent fryup in the following morning...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 03:15 PM
1

And we IT folks are often applying releases etc when the userbase are off getting hammered...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 02:59 PM
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Depends. Casualties receive medical treatment - their friends get thanked..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 02:57 PM
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Oh -sorry - easy to generalise based on a trend. I enlisted their help in looking after the drinkers... Pisshead slseeping it off - offered the nondrinker a cup of coffee as she helped us fill in the paperwork..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 02:19 PM
1

I worked at 25 college balls as part of the uniformed first aid cover.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 01:03 PM
1

And I treated folks like you at the college ball duties imworked at while in St John Ambulance
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 10:56 AM
1

When The One That Got Away entered the American songbook off A Star Is Born - and describes the Alpha Widow trope - or Neil Sedaka releasing The Queen of 1964...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 11:18 PM
1

Take a shy scrupulous guy - any attraction is likely to be clunky at best... almost as though the intention was for women to have the master-arm-switch to start up a guy's sexual sense...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 10:52 PM
1

Take me for example- predatory girls raped me (by feminism's own rules - sexually abused me against my will) and silenced me by threatening to declare rape if I talked. Suicidal eating for 30 years ensued.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 10:50 PM
1

Bobby Womack? Alexander O'Neal? Luther Vandross...?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 10:46 PM
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The inverse problem then occurs - when men are then told to be sexual... spinning it up is difficult... and clunky...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 10:44 PM
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"All men are rapists" was the Cliffs Notes version of a major Dworkin tenet claimed in Intercourse... And it looks as though the blowback from intersectionality succeeded in Solanas's aim to blow apart society for shits and giggles...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 09:56 PM
1

Actually if you crossref to Power Wheel in the Duluth Model...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:51 PM
1

American English seems to use the inverse of British English in some cases - "Pond difference" was a term we used on a different board when discovering this dynamic...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 03:40 PM
1

Pond difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 02:44 PM
1

Live Action Role Playing. Cosplay is part of the milieu. as opposed to being sat around a table rolling dice and updating character sheets.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 02:39 PM
1

"I believe in the family/With my ever-lovign wife beside me / But she don't know about my girlfriend / Or the man I met last night" - Phil Collins - Jesus He Knows Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35K6vQRt67g
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 02:36 PM
1

Confirmed. I remember a couple from church - hubby was at first surprised at how hard his wife wanted him to pound her...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 08:46 AM
1

Option 2 - given voice back in 1982/83 in the Uk Eurovision entry fro that year - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuGPWE1UifI
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 06:03 PM
1

Reel 1 of When Harry Met Sally, anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 06:00 PM
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Or the uniformed first aid element in their element?
/r/TheRedPill27/01/17 12:27 PM
1

Or they think "He ain't talkin' about me"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWoiZwU93fM
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 04:24 PM
1

Rod Stewart's character in Maggie May (released in 1971) would beg to differ.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVApuLlv-rU
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 04:08 PM
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Quite. That pussypass is also held up as a position of power when culturally observed. 2 examples from the main run of the Sexual revolution - ABBA - When I Kissed The Teacher - released in 1975, opens their ARRIVAL album - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wydPIAxuXdw Most SJW-type feminists operating in a schoolmarm mode would heavily shame the character Agnetha is portraying. Or Boomtown Rats - Mary of the 4th form - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiv7hE0s7Xw 4th form, based on the old O-level…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 04:04 PM
2

Bill Hicks cited this in his bit "Pussywhipped Satan" on one of his tours.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S57XyZc-uTo
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 08:41 PM
1

However it IS a classic porn trope - and would come up in American Pie-esque films...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 09:01 AM
1

Difficult when you're autistic - you have to calculate precise greyscale... With your primary CPUs... no coprocessor to handle it...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 08:58 AM
1

Interesting how old Wham lyrics are somewhat prescient... George michael's death was quite timely. Track - Young guns...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 01:00 AM
1

Use of "tart more often conservative female led. Think Nellie Boswell in Carla Lane's Bread.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 04:14 AM
1

The problem is when militant feminists like the current DPP - Allison Saunders writes it into prosecution guidelines...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:53 AM
1

I thought of the reference in Grease 2 which was set in 1961. Also seems as though America has always been more conservative than over here in Britain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 12:14 PM
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American mostly. Spread internationally through film and magazine media. Middle American 1950s "giver her your class pin" stuff seems to have been sourced from Victorian "lovers tokens" a la Kipps or Half A Sixpence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 08:06 AM
1

And SSRIs can REALLY mangle autistic brains...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 07:47 AM
1

Nancy Friday also referenced the Avon lady as the genderflipped horny pedlar stereotype (think Oklahoma )...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 07:45 AM
1

Interesting that I was banned from TBP and feminism/Askfeminists for mentioning Anais Nin and Nancy friday..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 06:00 PM
1

Problem is - when it comes to balancing the allocation of part of GDP to either the male or female populace... it IS zero-sum. Or when Duluth 1.0 without the bias corection injected by Ellen pence is preached from the lips of the Prime Minister.
/r/ExRedPill05/01/17 02:00 PM
3

Well- she can go fuck herself.
/r/MGTOW05/01/17 01:35 PM
2

If you were to speak musically - the average TRPer is in the character Mark Knopfler gave voice to in a certain track in 1985. Why do I have Money for Nothing running in my head?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 12:32 PM
1

Type 1 clubs are also the ones shown on programmes like Sun sex and suspicious parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 03:40 AM
1

I'm British - we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:15 PM
1

Happened in Britain. Bunch of red-bar-tabloid-reading idiots laid into him after he was misidentified- or they didn't understand the difference - only heard the first 2 syllables.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 02:44 PM
2

Tell that to the paediatrician who was lynched by the News of the World reading crowd after being slandered as a "paedophile".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 10:41 AM
1

Asperger is still in ICD-10..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 07:26 PM
1

Sex Addiction ideas, being downstream of Mary Koss, have been brought into doubt by some sectors of the psych community..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 01:05 PM
1

Always the front main, never the sound tech or first aid crew?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:11 AM
1

TERF and swerf types have tried to shut down her Sex Maniacs Balls, that help fund Outsiders... As well as some tradcon elements trying to shut down the stuff she does for disabled sexuality. Which is currently being crowdfunded and promoted heavily by Annie Sprinkle etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 11:02 AM
2

No, I had internalised resentment etc. I take it back. Sorry for speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 10:59 AM
1

You've just lost your next Tim Berners-Lee..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 04:59 AM
1

One of the few people fighting against this is Dr Tuppy Owens - she formed Outsiders.... Sex-pos and pisses off the sex-neg loud Feminist Body...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 04:57 AM
1

Have a look at feminismisformen - https://www.reddit.com/r/feminismformen/comments/2u5at9/ironic_misandry/ Here for instance. It is having a MASSIVE effect. So much so that Doris Lessing wrote Lay Off Men in 2001.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 01:32 AM
1

So a street version of gaslighting? Same as Lou Gramm complained about in Head games?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:35 AM
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Phantom was originally written for a baritone (Crawford)...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 01:24 AM
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Ally Fogg has been commenting on it... so it would have hit a wider audience...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:45 PM
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Well - its equivalent - "Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them" shirts were on sale in the high street...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:28 PM
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The problem is - a LOT of bystanders are being hit in the crossfire.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:17 PM
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Also, re his loft-bombing skills - this was lampshaded in the briefing room - he had been hitting womp rats in his Incom T-16 back on Tatooine. Reference was made ot their size being a match for their target. IIRC, the Incom T16 and T65 (X-wing) had similar controls and avionics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:24 PM
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3 - men still have to sign up for Selective Service (which means subject to a draft if one were called...)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:34 PM
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"Catch for us the little foxes..." bit out of Song of Songs?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 07:56 PM
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Could be said that the person spouting such platitudes should read Job and/or James. "Go, keep warm and well-fed"... fuck you who said that - why not feed them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 07:53 PM
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Even worse - when Roisin handwaved away the 2 girls who bullied an autistic boy into risking his life on a frozen lake.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 01:36 PM
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Backstory of The Mikado - flirting was a capital crime throughout the devolved city-state of Titipu.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:21 PM
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And you can thank Mary Koss for the Made to penetrate category. And for viewing it as "mere unwanted contact", and erasing male victims for 30-40 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 09:58 AM
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You may remember AVFM running a satirical corollary to a Jezebel Piece titled "Ever beaten up your boyfriend? Cos uh we have"? Also female on CV has led to male shaming in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 09:50 AM
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Problem you have is where feminist academic jargon has been thrown around as weapons against laymen. If Team Steinem were willing to look again at what Warren Farrell was saying back in the 90s, and toxic aspects in the female shadow self were also addressed...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 06:29 PM
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I don't know. What I DO know is that I suicidally ate for 30 years when my assailants threatened to declare rape if I talked - after raping me according to feminism's own rules...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 06:05 PM
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We cannot afford to take ANY of the TERF/SWERF pushes with a grain of salt - they pushed for the Duluth Pussypass, erasing male domestic violence victims, Koss's pushes erased me as she viewed female-on-male sexual assault as "mere unwanted contact".... Team Brennan/Bindel/Dines are the Junior Anti-Sex League. They are pushing "guilty because penis". They're also pushing Nordic model alongside Ruhama (who were behind the Magdalen laundries or the same money trails match) when sex workers want Ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 03:08 PM
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Julie Bindel was the one who met with the Nottingham Chief Constable and made flirting into a Kafkatrap - effectively twinning the city with Titipu out of the Mikado.. Effectively male approaches are being turned into a "hate crime"... and turning it all neoVictorian... She is on record as wanting "to see heterosexuality die". And it is VERY confusing out there now, compared to the sexually charged env in the 80s-2000s...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 02:59 PM
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That is precisely what Julie Bindel proposed in a Guardian piece that effectively recommended no-jury trials more akin to Terrorism Act tribunals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 08:23 AM
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Being that Bindel and Valenti both write in the Guardian - they are current pop-feminist thought leaders. Who can affect laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:41 AM
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"Come on man. Did I say innocent men should ALL be found guilty, that they should forfeit all rights? You're free to strawman people all you want, but it makes you look like a tard." Sadly Jessica Valenti and Julie Bindel have gone on record promoting precisely that...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:30 AM
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Barbara DeAngelis called out the manipulation and masquerade in The Rules in her book The Real Rules. Actually went as far as enumerating it in the equation Manipulation + Masquerade == BITCH. Game was a way of men flipping the script - was a return volley in what became Combat Dating. Started the nuclear winter that is out there now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:25 AM
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I'm 45 - I lived through the whole period...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:04 AM
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I just live on the underside of the pop-feminist Overton window as a male survivor of female-perp sexual abuse - who was erased by Mary Koss and silenced by the threat of my assailants declaring rape as blackmail.. for 30 years. Just the joys of my lived reality being a direct counter to most of the deafening MacDworkinite rhetoric that was blasted out for 3 decades. CF Scott Aaronson - https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/in-which-ozy-despite-not-being-a-scott-a-adopts-their-habit-of-…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:30 AM
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Yep - Simon Baron-Cohen is the autism/Asperger researcher; Sacha played Ali G/Borat/Bruno.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:07 AM
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ASD = "Anti-Slut defence" LMR = LAst Minute Resistance. The Rules promoted a weaponised version of the 1950s "I'm not that type of girl" approach, but threw in plausible deniability - and confused everything... The concept was overcoming the "What type of girl do you take me for" or the above line. Think the track "Reproduction" from Grease 2... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwM0SPJ9Gj0 Rules was released in 1995; The Game was released in 2005. Cpouple that with the 1970s-1990s Swept Away/Rape…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:49 PM
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Being Asperger, and a Christian, my default is "no".. but I can see how it came about historically. Game/PUA/TRP was an attempt at reverse-engineering the post-Fear Of Flying woman... and then you had The Rules skewing it... Was all art of that Combat Dating shite...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:04 PM
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NOt really. I've seen the Mrs Potiphar gampit being pushed on Facebook, as in self-defined "fat girls" saying that if a guy doesn't fuck them on demand - he's raping them... somehow. Takes me back to the "crying rape" scenario in Gen 39...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 10:40 PM
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Flipside of the ASD/LMR teaching as at 2005 (Strauss writing The Game) was the Rules weaponising the false hold-out... Consensual nonconsent from before the concept was more widely known... Only it was used as part of an "ISO9000 Reference Neurotypical Woman" assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 10:10 PM
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Also there is the use of the false rape claim as a blackmail threat.. or the "if you don't do what I want, I'll tell everyone you raped me" threat...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 10:03 PM
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Ah - and I remember the constant shouting matches on the AUTISM and ASPERGER LISTSERV lists back in the 90s, when the USA went down the Curebie route - and NAS went down the Empower route... As I blazed the trail for the kids coming through now...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:16 PM
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If you flip the experience - you have Billy Joel going for Christie Brinkley - and why do I have Uptown Girl playing in my head?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:05 PM
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Crossmatch between UK and us office - Jim == Tim Roy == Finchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 07:26 AM
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Well, Big Shot tracks the morning after the night before when Bolt was trying to get the woman being addressed home safely...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 07:11 AM
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How do I start on Socialite 101?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 07:29 PM
1

Nile Rodgers wrote these words for Kathy Sledge to sing - "He had the kind of body that would shame Adonis And a face that would make any man proud" http://www.metrolyrics.com/hes-the-greatest-dancer-lyrics-sister-sledge.html?ModPagespeed=noscript
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:33 PM
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And when this is weaponised by Cath Comins...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:02 PM
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During Disclosure, the protagonist was only saved by the fact that the mobile phone call was still live and recording to an answerphone...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:01 PM
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Back in the 80s, the human race was making good headway into seeing themselves as one human family, to quote a song title from the libretto of the Dave Clark penned musical TIME. Led to Live Aid being a thing re the Ethiopian famine etc. Also the Berlin Wall coming down etc. Instead of everyone going tribal...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 10:38 AM
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So socially awkward == see if God can give you a pass and pay for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:22 PM
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I think Mutt Lange divorced her...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 04:23 PM
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Not quite sure precisely where, but the annotated quotes are mentioned in Neil Lyndon's book Sexual Impolitics, previously released as Mo more sex war, where he tracked
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:39 PM
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And yet Greer also proposed that I, as a male victim of female perp sexual abuse, be incarcerated as I was somehow a "threat".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 12:13 PM
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Mrs Potiphar is also the classic Hotwife trope - same as the woman in Proverbs 5...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 12:02 PM
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Book's available as a Kindle purchase over on Amazon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:50 AM
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Think of most male-voiced pop and rock music.. most of it is post-cital - and with the massive dump fo oxytocin into the male bloodstream AFTER orgasm... Level 42 - Two Hearts Collide Peter Cetera - Glory of Love etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:32 AM
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Neil Lyndon covers it and references the quote in his book Sexual Impolitics (previously released as No More Sex War). Covers where it all went wrong..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:27 AM
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Classic Biblical go-to - Mrs Potiphar in Genesis 39. Bored housewife wants to fuck the aide - aide knocks her back.. she cries rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:10 AM
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Depends if they are an old-school Joy Behar feminist, or a PAtti Stanger one... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeQKCUXdEfo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:43 AM
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... which kinda goes against equalist-feminist principles portrayed in, say, Donna Summer's track "She works hard for rthe money". Joy Behar as opposed to PAtti Stanger. And nowhere near the entitled cunt that Shania Twain gives voice to in "Any man of mine".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:41 AM
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Have you looked at Diefendorf's piece re men coming out of Purity Culture? Most of them are "red pill". Song of Songs Shulamite/Beloved is the sexually aggressive woman dreamed about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:34 AM
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I think it's the apparent enthusiasm shown where all parties ARE consenting...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:33 AM
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And when men DON'T... have a read of Neil Lyndon's book Sexual Impolitics - he chronicles how Team Greer wanted Servant/Slave/Scapegoat... This was precisely why and how Warren Farrell was booted out of NOW...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 09:49 AM
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Warren Farrell was pushing for men to be released from their Success Object gender role - Germaine Greer pushed for it to be skewed to Servant, Slave and Scapegoat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:58 PM
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Written up by Nile Rodgers in Spacer, He's the Greatest Dancer.... Jeff goldblum played the archetype in Thank God It's friday. Leisure Suit Larry/Sid the Sexist were the wannabes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 12:03 PM
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no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 06:33 PM
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Proxy force.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 01:13 PM
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"frivolous tweet" about massacring 90% of the male population? Bindel promoting Treblinka for men? Statutory rape against teeen boys by predatory women? Fuck you - I suicidally ate for 30 years and it derailed my sexual development completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 12:14 PM
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Or more the way that Warren Farrell and others were sidelined by Team Steinem pulling some Mean Girls shit in the 70s. In addition, you had Susan Brownmiller warning against the Male Chauvinist Pigs (who were later retconned to Patriarchy) while Erica Jong (progenitor of AFBB - and dehumanising guys as ATMS or cum dispensers) wanted to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 12:01 PM
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Would places like Bicton Agricultural College have a similar feel? Thinking back to the ball duties I worked at....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 05:52 PM
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Often as a reaction. If you consider that TERFs are most often on the news as "the Feminist voice"... or the way they use the rest of Feminism as a meatshield to shove some really nasty misandric stuff into statute...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:00 PM
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Grounds like classic burden of performance stuff. Does he get laid like tile?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 07:34 AM
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Good point - that 9 year delta closely crossmatches the damage I suffered as an unknown-at-the-time Aspie when those girls abused me at 13; it was like abusing a 6-7-year-old...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 10:46 AM
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Obstetrics/gynecologic. Medico involved with all things childbirth related.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 07:49 AM
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"Stand in line, marking, time, waiting for the welfare dime, cos they can't find a job. Man in the silk suit..."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 05:23 PM
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Authors like Joyce Huggett and Josh McDowell explicitly taught that sex "is a mystery" back in the 80s. Was a common view in JudeoChristian models. And the changes have Not been culturally taught.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 12:42 PM
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"You must think in Russian, Mitchell Gant. You cannot think in English and translate; you must think in Russian. "
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:41 AM
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Tell that to Catherine COmins who weaponised the use of the false rape allegation as a tool to force "men to respect women". And she then wrote VAWA>
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 08:08 PM
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Driven by extremists/misandrists false-flagging as "feminists" on the regressive left - as hard-righters like Milo Y call them...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 12:48 PM
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You mean in the way that Julie Bindel met with the Nottingham Chief Constable and pushed for Nottingham to resemble Titipu from The Mikado?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 05:35 AM
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Like, for instance, the male voice in the Godley and Creme track Wedding Bells back from around 1982? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j63pgYe6K7M
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 02:45 PM
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It IS a crime in the UK... or is on its way to be in Nottingham - due to Julie Bindel meeting with the Notts Chief Constable. We have misandrists making some REALLY Byzantine law out there...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 10:11 AM
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And verse 2 of "He's the greatest dancer" plays in my head. Rolled arrogant memories like the guy described into recovery many a time at the balls I worked at.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 07:47 AM
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Would someone PLEASE give a definition of this "fuckboy" term? It seems to match to "philanderer", although casual sex is condoned in some quarter....
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 07:32 AM
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Tracks like The Nolan's attention to me etc may cover it. Same as the MMSL stuff on defusing or averting the ILYBINILWY trap. Or Smalley/Trent Hidden value of a man etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:20 PM
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I was simply explaining its origin. Love is supposed to underpin everything, along with mutual submission - hence the assumption of standing consent. Starts from an "I am not my own - I am God's" stance... Hence the whole affirm granular consent thing can be VERY confusing for conservative Christians... I had to spend a lot of effort getting my head around it all...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:41 PM
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Why do I have Mary Chapin-Carpenter's "He thinks he'll keep her" playing in my head? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tQ4vpdB-24 Opened a Q Magazine Country compilation I borrowed from the library back int he day
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:58 AM
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If they come from a Judeo-Christian understanding, Pem is raising the 1 Corinthians 7 card... https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+7&version=NKJV " 2 Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:48 AM
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Gilbert Shelton referenced this in a fabulous furry freak brothers strip...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 07:37 PM
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Try these... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-box_testing and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-box_testing I posit that the BDSM granular-consent model (kinda like opening specific ports on a firewall) is analogous to a white-box understanding of sex, as opposed to the black-box model of sex where you talked about "foreplay" and "the main event" - the heteronormative PIV model (with oral as a preceding step and anal as an advanced optional "extra stage") which was taught in the 80s. If whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 03:31 PM
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Like the Dangerous Dogs Act? Which was another bad law. Symbolic laws are NEVER a good idea. Good law at least provides a defence...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 05:40 AM
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Ah - this is the main difference between BDSM consent models and conservative AIDS-era sex-as-black-box models. With current feminist pushes ASSUMING white-box sexual understanding...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 05:37 AM
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St John Ambulance cover at 25 university balls put on by Balls Societies - probably the nearest to the frat/sorority system in the British uni system. They were in tuxes and ballgowns; I was there in shortsleeve uniform. They paid £100 per person - I was working.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 07:44 PM
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"Demisexual" would be what the conventional male heterosexual script was back in the 70s and 80s? CF REO Speedwagon, Foreigner and other 70s artists?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 07:41 PM
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Understood. However, when it gets reduced to slogans (normally the only thing heard on the news) and weaponised... it is very confusing to the general public...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 07:38 PM
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I've treated and looked after a lot of you more economically-privileged folk when I worked at those college balls...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 07:35 PM
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Probably not - as the toxic behaviours (false rape allegations etc) are weaponised by the people in power...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 06:30 PM
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It's OK for loud extremists on one side to put the other side into the reticles of SUSAT sights. Yes, Bindel, I'm referring to you.
/r/MensRights13/11/16 06:03 PM
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Funnily enough, back in the 90s on the bar streets of Ibiza, catcalls were often conducted between groups of men and women on Club 18-30 pub crawls. As seen on Ibiza Uncovered etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 09:06 AM
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The sexual response "leaks"? Charlie Goodman goes on about containing it all, but is it really fair to demand that guys come across as eunuchs until a Master Arm Switch is thrown?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 09:23 PM
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As Jessica Valenti did. And shared with everyone in her Guardian column.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 06:35 PM
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I am 45. Who am I allowed to attempt an approach towards?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 06:48 PM
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Chris Rock? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 11:14 AM
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1977 - played with in Blazing Saddles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 11:12 AM
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Black artists bounced around via the UK to make it mainstream... Motown stuff was released on Fontana over here before the Tamla Motown imprint was rolled out by EMI... Footage from Ready Steady Go probably acted as promos on Bandstand before acts who played Soul Train bounced back over the Atlantic... Which version of Little red rooster was originally known by American white audiences? The Howlin' Wolf original or the Stones' cover?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 11:11 AM
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I understand. I suppose the public message blasted out is VERY confusing... "You're wrong, toxic and a rapemonster - but i won't tell you why you're wrong.. " is not really the best way to win the member of the public to your cause...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 11:04 AM
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Why does this one play in my head? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTLTG4FTNBQ
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 10:25 AM
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Simone De Beauvoir came across as a hardline evangelist - "We will save you poor housewives from yourselves", akin to the SWERFs like Gail Dines talking about "prostituted women" to high-end escorts and peopl elike Mercedes Carrera - who was involved in early streaming tech (porn led a lot of tech advances)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 10:20 AM
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I'm not red pill. Purple maybe.. but it was a link to the Chas and Dave track Rabbit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:44 PM
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And as an Asperger male - I don't see this social ranking stuff...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 05:19 PM
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I'll leave this here (just couldn't resist the tease - nothing meant by it... but was irresistible) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1fOZjiDaw4
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 11:13 AM
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Madness covered it in My Girl. And Shania Twain's "Honey I'm home"? What if she was ranting about not being able to send mail - to her boyfriend... who may have been one of the email admins actually WORKING on the server hosting her mailfile (as well as 3000 others)?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 11:12 AM
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This girl fancied herself as a domme - or something. But her approach was a hell of a turnoff. Then again - my parents had the plaque "I am I and you are you in thought. I am yours and you are mine in love. Independently we share our lives together". I was also socialised into JudeoChristian mindset. What she was offering didn't sound anything like Song of Songs...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:53 AM
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NeoVictorianism in other words. I literally remember some white knight going on about "beastly nature" echoing Baden-Powell...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:47 AM
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However, there is a trend for younger women (over on fetlife) to demand it... Sort of "I'm a princess and I want a slave to worship me" - serious narcissism. I actually received a message from one asking whether I wanted to "serve" her. Umm.. no. If I hold to feminism - it's the old-school Sommers version... men and women truly equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:45 AM
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Loudest element that is most often heard on the news.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 07:25 AM
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So seen from Screwtape's pov as written by CS Lewis?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 10:00 AM
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6 inch heel delta - probably. As a baseline.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:06 PM
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It's the flipside of Every Man's Battle...
/r/ExRedPill02/11/16 11:41 AM
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A good 101 on male thought patterns - from a musical perspective.. is Billy Joel...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:41 PM
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"Here's my story, it's sad but true / About a girlfriend I once knew / She took my love and ran around / With every single guy in town..." LOTS of red pills in male-voiced pop music down the years...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:35 PM
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Er... yeah. I've done loo checks at balls and had to hammer on disabled loo doors and disturb couples having a quickie when someone needed to answer nature's call. The stuff you see at college balls when in St John Ambulance uniform.. working at the event...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:24 PM
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Considering that Game/TRP was a reverse-engineer after The Rules had done its damage, weaponising a version of 1950s antagonistic gender dynamics - as opposed to the "both here for fun" model in the 70s and 80s...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:13 PM
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Just noticed this bit - "Elizabeth Armstrong and her colleagues conclude that women’s orgasm rates are strongly related to her evolving relationship with her partner, the activities they include, and his investment in her pleasure. Qualitative research on men’s motivations confirm the last piece. “I’m all about making her orgasm,” said a man interviewed for their study. “The general her or like the specific her?” he was asked. “Girlfriend her,” he responded, “In a hookup her, I don’t give a shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:08 PM
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Would explain the Orgasm Gap copy submitted to the Guardian by Jessica Valenti...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 11:42 AM
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This was the point where the social sphere split into male and female areas. Before that, I recall men and women having each other 's backs. Typical track in 1985 would be Solid by Ashford and Simpson.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 05:28 PM
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And if you're autistic, and therefore only have the logical systems to call on?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:08 PM
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Could it be the case that a guy can learn a hell of a lot more about nourishing sex from musicians like Ian Dury, Nolans etc.. classic 1970s and 1980s stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:58 PM
1

A good deconstruction of that dynamic is in the film The Girl Next Door...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:52 PM
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Also covers how the classic male strategy is to do a root-cause analysis on the problem presented - so the bugger DOESN'T come back... thus he is helping to reduce his SO's stress load...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 02:46 PM
2

Sam Biddle's tweet painted Gawker for all the Gamergate launched Paveways.
/r/MensRights24/10/16 06:37 AM
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Reminds me of the book Men are like waffles, women are like spaghetti...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 05:36 AM
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Fuck off Mary Daly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 08:50 PM
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AOC in UK is 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 10:50 AM
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Written up culturally in Boomtown Rats Mary of the 4th form and ABBA's When I kissed the teacher - and Police's Don't stand so close to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 10:47 AM
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OK - apologies. Still a little confused... I know what you mean though - there does seem to be more pressure to "pretend to be normal" to borrow Liane Holliday-Whilley's title (I knew her personally on the InLv lists back in the day, along with Jessica Kingsley) on TRP... S'pose I'm still that lightning rod... I was blocked on TBP partially int he way that I push back against Mary Koss for erasing me...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 08:19 AM
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OK - but "sperg" has similar etymology to discriminating against people who hold an Asperger diagnosis... as I do. I was called a "spazz" or "spazmo" int he 70s - this was before the Spastics Society changed their name to Scope. NTsplaining has been raised over there as well... Thanks though.. just rankles from wherever...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 07:38 AM
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Duty of care. She blew her ecrb. Throw the book at her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 06:09 AM
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"sperg". For people waxing on about political correctness and inclusivity and diversity, you bloops sure do heap the shame on Asperger individuals. As a first generation aspie, this does rankle somewhat.. also seems a little hypocritical... Just saying. But you're right. It systematized the whole thing to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 05:53 AM
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I spent my 20s in St John Ambulance, working at all the events others partied at. Also was doing audiovisual support at my local church. Also got disconnected from my own sociosexuality sense due to following the Joyce Huggett/Josh Harris path.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 05:39 AM
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"...pick up my guitar and play, just like yesterday. And I'll get on my knees and pray... We won't be fooled again..."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 05:31 AM
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Flip of that was the JudeoChristian mindset - described thus by Joyce Huggett in Just Good Friends - "god wants two virgins, free from guilt and shame, to enter into marriage undefiled".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 12:22 PM
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The app was taken off the appstores based on objections by extremist activist feminists - who did NOT want an independently-provable way of confirming consent...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:54 AM
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In addition - 40something Aspies like me had it drummed into us that you just avoid pregnancy at all costs - and if you then internalised McDowell etc - you learned abstinence... Then I read Craigslist - and it is one hell of a standing start.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:52 AM
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1st generation Asperger guy - took part in all the research studies that led to the early support today's ASD kids get... lots of work on myself - BUT JudeoChristian origins - plus all the really wingnutted stuff the 80s American evangelicals put out... so had to deconstruct and jettison the "Bj Blowers" Every Man's Battle stuff...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:06 PM
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MORE complex? Try insanely complex - and as I'm on the wrong planet... the phrasebooks don;t come out fast enough...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:56 PM
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Honest. Rules of engagement are chanign so damn fast it's impossible to tell. For example - when the whole "objectification" embargo came up recently, my brain went to the Louise redknapp track "Naked" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EnLCyrsBQg - and was surprised to find on lookup that it had been released 20 years ago... back when this was being condoned - and the culture was much more sexually charged. This goes along with Christina Hoff-Sommers' comments about where Fainting Couch Feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:43 PM
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Good point - Ladder was reverse-engineered on the back of the post-Goodbar/Cyndi Lauper model, and the whole Cad/Dad thing as well... But for more Boolean brains (my brain has to calculate greyscale) - it helps when building the fuzzy logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:07 PM
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Although the passive part of Game/PUA etc - helps with pattern-matching IOIs etc.. builds on Allan Pease's stuff delineating body language... Well - helps Aspies like me...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 11:56 AM
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The trouble is - accordign to Curiously Social and Socially Curious - there is a difference between the additive "acquaintance, friend, close friend, girlfriend" male path - and the two "gates" - where I apparently audition to be a Friend or a Lover-candidate. And this was reverse-engineered in the Game/PUA community as Ladder theory... But of course - I need to set up a trust bond before I could spin up sexually...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 11:48 AM
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I suppose I was having to backstop from suicidal eating - and was only on finding the Athol Kay and Maxine Aston stuff did i backstop from suicidal eating (look at my post history) - and christina Hoff Sommers that enabled me to do that... counselling and somatic sex therapy is on the schedule once the weight comes down. Vasectomy is planned ( I'm an engineer - condom is too much of a single point of failure). I'm trying to avoid the Entitlement Princesses though - I'm 45 - I grew up to see sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 11:36 AM
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I was merely commenting on the historical context. I don't even know what is allowed - so I don't do anything. Is it permissible to ask a lady out on a date - or to propose marriage - and then maybe find out what this "sex" thing is all about permissible for a male to do now?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 11:15 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:37 AM
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Consider that trp is a reaction to Rules female chauvinism, or Patti Stanger type golddigging. Dig out the old Joy Behar and Patti Stanger clip on YouTube. Behar was an old school equality feminist compared to the sheer entitlement Stanger promoted. The whole mess was called Combat dating and led to the scorched earth out there now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:28 AM
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It IS a massive issue for Feminism as a movement, as this was Julie Bindel going off on one with Notts Chief Constable. I phoned the Fawcett Society, British version of NOW; Bindel is not acting in accordance with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:21 AM
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Where does that leave the guy who is operating from a Good Little Evangelical Christian mindset?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:10 AM
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Ah. Was thinking of the deafening MacDworkinite cultural stuff that led to the Millie Tant stereotype...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:32 PM
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Hall and Oates released a track "Wedding Bells" in approx 1983 - where the guy wanted an FWB, the woman wanted an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:36 PM
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One of the people victim-blaming me was my own tutor-group (think homeroom) tutor. Also consider Dworkin was deafeningly loud - and the concept of a male victim wasn't even there until Michael Crichton wrote Disclosure in 1991 - this was 1984 - so even 3 years before Childline was set up by Esther Rantzen. So I swallowed the guilt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:51 AM
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This can now happen and is the effective law of the land in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:03 AM
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Think about the way I was sexually abused by predatory women - whjo then silenced me for 30 years by threatening to falsely cry rape if i talked...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:01 AM
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Yep - backstory of the operetta is the banning of all flirting in Titipu.. Bindel was on record as wanting to destroy heterosexuality..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:42 AM
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A lot of people need to - because they skew laws to screw up communication between the sexes...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:24 PM
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Maybe not - but hardline misandrists false-flagging as "feminists" are.. For instance - Julie Bindel encouraging Nottingham chief constable to make like the Lord High Executioner from the Mikado...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:51 PM
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Contracted name.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:19 PM
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Backward rationalising. "Rationalisation Hamster" is a manosphere definition.
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 11:56 AM
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And then she pulls a Mrs Potiphar?
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 11:55 AM
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It's confusing. When you were taught a black-box model of sexuality - and told to "flee sexual immorality" - it's actually quite difficult to break stuff down... hence the mass retreat from the whole area you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 12:39 AM
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If you contrast the two main strands of female sexuality in feminism - Nancy friday was a lot fairer than Erica Jong. Only Jong won out - "hate men, weaponise sex"... you see this in Em and Lo columns which drive the "train your man using sex as doggy treats" model -as opposed to the 80s much more equitable model - eg "Tonight I celebrate my love for you"; Pointer Sisters, etc etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 11:46 PM
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.. until you look to male-voiced music over the last 40 years...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 11:43 PM
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That shit was directly from Erica Jong...
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 01:11 AM
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Shut up Wesley!
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 01:10 AM
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So this is her plan? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeRSqekHh1g - we have another Eartha Kitt...
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 05:16 PM
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Try looking up Hogarth - was a classic trope ALL THE WAY THROUGH the Victorian era.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 12:57 PM
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I wouldn't know about that. "Player" isn't exactly a positive epithet. Historically he would be shamed as a "rake".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:35 PM
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How should he ask then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:01 PM
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So the question stands. How does an independent get some of this Sex that everyone else seems to be getting tons of? How do they join the party?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:32 PM
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Good point. I had to do that pretty bloody fast when a close friend of mine reported "gonewild" type stuff she had got up to on a holiday... I ID'd and had to talk it through with my mum - as I had been marinaded in the whole conservative evangelical mindset - and how it built all on sex-neg to such an extent... scrupulosity and Asperger is fun to deal with.. Where did my brain go to initially? "Madonna/Whore". You know - the whole "ambassador for Christ" thing? Also the whole "sex and everythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 03:50 PM
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And if he'd managed to jettison views internalised from books like Every Man's BAttle, along with the whole Jerome/Augustine/Platonic/Hellenistic sex-neg Christian worldview?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 03:23 PM
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When you, like me, are an autistic guy who was sexually abused by predatory girls, silenced for 30 years, victim-blamed by the Dworkin slander and by a militant feminist tutor... and then stumbled into the purity culture... So is left terrified of sex... Then come back and say it's a "tantrum". If I could find some tenderhearted lady who wanted me - and wouldn't hurt me...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 10:38 AM
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Mainstream media.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:55 AM
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Same one as used by Mark Knopfler in Money for Nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 06:00 PM
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Started in 1995 with the social sphere splitting into separate boys and girls halves. Also that sodding L'oreal "I'm worth it (because pussy)" crap. Team Steinem's misandry being the main form of Feminism in power.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 11:14 PM
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Consider some of us lived through the AIDS epidemic scare...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 11:09 PM
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Those "outrageous demagogues" were VERY loud in the 80s... and pushed a lot of very toxic stuff into statute. UNderstandable about marital rape - even though at the time sex-ed was taught in a black box manner. so it was all pretty confusing... You had the Sex Wars - then more of an up-front method.. then The Rules (false no etc) - then Game.. and it all went scorched earth...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 09:12 PM
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However, to flip it back - is it really fair of Cath Comins to have hung a sword of Damocles of the weaponised false rape claim over every guy? Takes a special kind of evil... Went with Linda Gordon and Kate Millett deliberately destroying marriage - or Cath mackinnon being that hateful as to describe all heterosexual sex as rape...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 09:06 PM
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... or the Political Lesbians and TERF/SWERF lot who are screwing it up for everyone. EG Julie Bindel pushing for Nottingham to be twinned with Titipu (The Mikado) - or appears to at first glance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 09:02 PM
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However, to flip it - TRP/Game was a reaction to The Rules, and advice to "train your man like a dog" - the Erica Jong use-sex-as-a-weapon-and-as-doggy-treats model- which is pretty damn insultung to men. Sex was never meant to be a weapon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:57 PM
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REALLY didn't help matters that books like Every Man's Battle pushed Madonna/Whore bigtime... lots of self-hatred leaking all over the shop - deprogramming that is FUN(!).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 02:16 PM
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It would appear that the really militant activists took the BDSM "firewall" approach (that consent grid I saw mentioned on fetlife and also shown on the C4 film Hardcore back in 1991 - when specific acts were agreed to/not agreed to ahead of time) and turned it into something more akin to an aviation Surveillance Approach for an aircraft receiving a full IFR service from air traffic control. Progressive clearances... Only issue - somehow you have to be able to prove this to a 3rd party....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 02:03 PM
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Which - if you flip it, is the basis of Elle Knight's "Exes and Ohs". Only she got up to... no 3 in the UK charts, wasn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 01:57 PM
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Three Up two Down was a classic BBC example.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 11:58 AM
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So pretty much locked into a traditional monogamous marriage? And then get cheated on?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:03 PM
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Concur good to see you again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 04:22 AM
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It wasn't of her volition. Therefore she is absolved of all guilt or any pangs of conscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 09:28 AM
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Mercedes actually worked in the tech side of porn before going in front of the lens. Before that she was an aerospace engineer
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 07:05 AM
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Agreed. What is all this "weaponising sex" bullshit? That's how we got into this problem int he first place! Nancy friday - not Erica Jong - PLEASE!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:01 PM
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And proving it is Jeremy Kyle or Maury, depending on which side of the Atlantic you're on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:33 PM
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Try looking at The Myth of Male Power - he used to be chairman of New York chapter of NOW - before Team Steinem booted him out - he is the main MRA face. Also look him up on Youtube...
/r/TheRedPill23/09/16 05:32 PM
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That was Warren Farrell's argument back in the 70s...
/r/TheRedPill23/09/16 01:24 PM
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More a case of toxic women wanting to use men as their muscle (proxy force) - rather than just making themselves scarce - or keeping the peace - or let them fight it out. they're big girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 12:56 PM
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Female feminists of different camps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 12:50 PM
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Play out the track Attention To Me by the Nolans. Bernie (lead vocal) was asking the guy (a dead bear hubby based on the video) should she weaponise sex to get his attention. Does he really want her to start levels of dread game?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:31 AM
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There is a lot of intrasexual crossfire... And intrafeminism crossfire...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:01 PM
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Gilded cage was what Woolstonecraft etc were trying to escape from... Blue helmets - what do UN troops wear?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 09:47 PM
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Twain insists she wants any guy to put stuff in place - and reserves the right to change her mind at any time... without thinking of lead times to preposition stuff... or preposition bookings etc... https://play.google.com/music/preview/Tfrr34tqwlokednuhs2wpfbwzwa?lyrics=1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=lyrics&pcampaignid=kp-lyrics She may want to "change my mind a million times"... but any guy is soon gonna get fed up with that shit... as he pisses off suppliers as he tries to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 09:46 PM
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Might help if "critical path" and "lead times" were in the woman's mind - just saying... (wincing at Shania Twain's Any Man Of Mine, along with Barbara DeAngelis on that one)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 07:27 PM
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Yup- which means that some seem to want to recreate their gilded cage.. and others don't... so it can feel a bit like guys have to don blue Kevlar helmets to avoid the shrapnel...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 07:23 PM
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Which would be played out in what I saw over while Gamergate was running. The porn actress Cythera was gang-raped in her own home; Mercedes Carrera tried to get Anita Sarkeesian et al to boost the call for help - she received radio silence. Here is her vid on it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z85GQF9--s Basically it's an example of "Not Quite Like Us dear".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:32 PM
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I remember the Dworkin MacKinnon stuff being screamed out on telly, so was a but skittish
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:06 PM
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OK, I get you. Was worried that stare-rape idiocy was about to be pushed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:54 PM
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Rape can happen without penetration?! HOW? Rape is sex without consent. Mary Koss was a direct apt by Gloria Steinem, she did the whole made to penetrate crap, erasing male victim of female perp rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 08:22 PM
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If they manage to push back on MAry Koss - and get her to reverse the 2made to penetrate" bullshit...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 07:25 PM
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Even worse- they can frame a guy for his own rape by envelopment. Jessica Valenti did NOT like me pointing that out on her affirm consent piece in the Guardian. I was blocked and premodded for that comment. Oh - and she wanted to remove due process as well. Add Bindel wanting Star Chambers for the woolier definition of rape... Add to that Julie Bindel putting my head squarely in the aiming reticle of an SA80s's SUSAT sight with her "all men are rapists and shoudl be shot on sight" tweet. I take …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:14 PM
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Umm - I don't know. I had to backstop there as I was suicidally eating from my sexual abuse plus all the anti-male rhetoric. I will admit - I am Asperger, so I took the whole Team dworkin stuff very literally... and soaked in the "girl power/girls rule boyd drool" stuff. Was only on finding Athol Kay's MMSL stuff that I managed to decouple the eating. I will admit - I am purple pill - I was born in 1970 in the UK - so lived through and saw all the activism on news footage etc. So I saw the effec…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 05:54 PM
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Many data points, safetys have been taken off... Is viewing women as being capable of being equally as shitty as good - "hateful"? Is The Hand that rocks The Cradle a "misogynistic" film in how it handles Rebecca De Mornay's character?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 04:23 PM
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Mary koss describes female-on-male sexual assault/rape by envelopment as "mere unwanted contact". Re young teens - it gets very confusing when you think how some more precocious or predatory younger women under the AOC can act - I was sexually abused at 13 (sexual dev age 7 due to unknown AS) by predatory 14-15 year old girls. At the same era, the more predatory girl was written up in Mary of the 4th Form by the Boomtown Rats, and When I Kissed The Teacher by ABBA. they basically honed their ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 04:18 PM
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Is it really "hateful" to mention where toxic femininity has been weaponised?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 04:04 PM
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Add the Women Are Wonderful Effect - where if a guy holds a woman accountable to the same standard he is - it's somehow "misogyny". Since when was treating a woman as truly equal - and capable of being toxic - "hateful"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 03:53 PM
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Gets confusing when you ask which definition of "rape". Is it the "sex without mutual consent" one... or the Cath Mackinnon/MAry Koss "not-rape only if initiated by the woman - man doesn't have to consent" one?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 03:41 PM
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Basic plot of Taming of the Shrew/Kiss Me Kate. And how many old Phil Spector tracks? Hence the whole MMSL thing about developing the "Inner bad Boy" allowing the "inner bad girl" out to play. Even CHRISTIAN BLOGS are suggesting women develop their Inner Slut or Inner Shulamite... And how many potboilers have the "tame the bad boy" plot? Aaaand a certain repurposed MArvin Gaye percussion and bass pattern starts as a music bed....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:58 PM
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Hence safewording and the VAWA deadman's switch. And with white-box granular consent - which is NOT well known if a kid's been through conservative sex-ed. It is only being added to sex-ed curricula in the Uk now. Back in the 80s, sex was taught in a very black-box manner. A series of go-no-go points - but the idea was that the couple would be swept away down a waterfall if they weren't careful... and with Sex being viewed as a black box- add hard-to-get, then you had the "no means yes and yes m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:46 PM
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Historically, due to pervasive slutshaming - a major plot element of 1970s potboilers seem to be the rape Fantasy - allowing the reader a get-out-of-guilt-free card. "I was swept away". Basically Farrell and DeCrow would have covered this one in the 70s (they were moving to mutual consent and away from the Swept Away model) had Team dworkin with the "all men are inherent rapists - all piv is rape" not been in the ascendant...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:19 PM
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Ouch. Mostly conservative evangelical voices firing the epithets? Then you have people like Proudman, Dines, Greer and Bindel trying to shut down the industry as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:12 PM
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When proto-Rules "dread game" was proposed in an old Nolans lyric from 1981 (BBC4's Top Of The Pops reruns help to see how the legit points were raised - pop music being today's poetry and all) - I saw where the legit issues HAD been raised... Attention To Me was released in 1981 - and basically enumerated female Dread Game - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sykj2J--828 as MMSL describe it. Actually a LOT of feminists' talking points were raised in Nolans lyrics... The "hysterical harpy" line was…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 01:59 PM
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However, when there has been externalised hatred towards men taught through Mary Daly and Sally Miller Gearhart - and it cascaded down... look at how Nancy friday, Judy Blume, CHS, Cathy Young and Warren farrell were sidelined by Team Steinem, or Erica Jong, who DID hate men and weaponised sex.. basically all the stuff in the Sex Wars... Liana K makes some good points re the Mean Girls aspect within 2nd wave and downstream feminism.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOZrOR0mIOs Or look at Barbara…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 01:34 PM
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I'm curious - if you did a demographic survey, do you get most hate inbound from men or women? Just that I seemed to notice a lot of Mean girls stuff on other threads. I get the impression that the same women who piled into you would have, if they were in egypt in Biblical times, would have tried to shut down Rahab's base of ops (and she was jesus's great-great-gran)...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 01:16 PM
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