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Why would you flake? that’s counter productive
/r/seduction29/12/21 09:29 AM
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Ill make you a deal you show me your best photo video with the hottest girl you’ve been with ( with you in it) ill give you benefit if the doubt you hooked up with her. Then I’ll email you some videos. And then when I do you have to say you were right, you’re the master. I’ve already provided advice, a long with me with girls in lingerie and my house making kissing me so I think it’s fair. For all I know you’re some troll gets validation from talking to a 6 and getting her number.
/r/seduction16/02/20 12:24 PM
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😂😂😂 that’s called cognitive dissonance kid. “He gets all these hot girls so they must be his friends and he “pays for them”. I can show you sex videos and you’ll say I photo shopped my face in there too.
/r/seduction16/02/20 12:09 PM
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I was expecting you to say here’s my results or here’s my advice incel 😂
/r/seduction16/02/20 09:25 AM
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Ok kid guarantee you can’t pull anything close to what I do.
/r/seduction16/02/20 08:49 AM
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Crickets... the people who talk the most tend to be quiet when you prove that they are dumb.
/r/seduction16/02/20 08:47 AM
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Ok I made it public you can see it. My first photo is of me and a famous influencer I approached so you should understand the need for privacy. My philosophy is if you know you show. Check it out.
/r/seduction16/02/20 07:28 AM
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Are you still requested?
/r/seduction16/02/20 07:05 AM
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I did not see your request and of course I do. Having all these girls on this page makes me look like a player if any girl I know runs into it.
/r/seduction16/02/20 06:59 AM
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Speculative? Check out my Instagram and the you tell me if I’m speculating. Ig is Blackbeltpickup my library of 8s and up. Bruh this is like pulling teeth. What part is nonsense? I can’t tell if you’re an incel troll or you actually have experience by your comments
/r/seduction16/02/20 06:52 AM
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Any points as you to why? What do you disagree with? Are you able to express yourself through the use of words?
/r/seduction16/02/20 06:43 AM
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I posted before I finished writing it.
/r/seduction16/02/20 06:26 AM
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Ok great you’re familiar with mystery method. False time constraint is essential when interrupting a set or opening a set in day game walking the opposite way. Instead of saying you have to get back to my friend, I just say “before I go I had to tell you____( direct opener not involving her looks). The idea is to get to A2 as quick as possible. I can do the false time constraint and opener in one sentence. Also works for day game because where would your friends be lol. This is an example of tec…
/r/seduction11/02/20 09:43 AM
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It depends still go sometimes the friend is hotter. Do not pay for them! If they’re at the bar stand away from it. You can use the friend as jealousy plot line or she wants to feel you out. Just make it into a fun time. The opportunity yo escalate will arise if she ends up really liking you. I would also take them to a place where you can open more sets in front of them if you need to rather a place where women are scarce and your value is lower.
/r/seduction11/02/20 04:43 AM
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If its a quieter environment talk to the whole group. Address the target last. If its a loud environment go straight for the target and as people start to pay attention you out of curiosity introduce yourself. Trying to talk to the whole group in loud enviornments would annoy them because it tales work to try to hear you. Better to fo straight for target.
/r/seduction08/12/19 09:32 AM
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Gotcha your’e on point with the last part. Identity level change. The end result of getting good at pick up is someone with charisma who is a logistics master. And it gets to a point where you cant turn it off its who you are.
/r/seduction06/12/19 12:59 AM
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How does practice make competence? If someone practices poor technique doesn’t mean they are competent. Am I misunderstanding? Skills can deteriorate to an extent. You don’t completely lose it. People do get rusty.
/r/seduction06/12/19 12:49 AM
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You seem a little frustrated because all your points have been wrong. Yeah Im sure you get a lot of pussy 👍🏻. Bragging is one thing, offering to back it up because its true is another. Maybe you shouldn’t check out my page it may cause cognitive dissonance. I can tell you haven’t had any training which is why I asked. People who actually pull girls get it. Your’e like that one guy who watches mma fights but had never trained day in his life, but criticizes peoples technique. You go and protect t…
/r/seduction05/12/19 10:30 PM
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First off i didn’t train myself I was professionally trained. Were you trained? Or “you read a lot of books and watched free videos type of expert”? They all know Im a dating coach lmao. I tell them the story of how I was shy and lonely and now my rockstar to lifestyle is due to my education. They love talking about it. They’re even in on it. Once in a while they’ll give me a hard time like I’m not falling for that and its playful. They know its beyond a game and our relationship is real. You’ve…
/r/seduction05/12/19 09:58 PM
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Do you think who you are currently is all you? Lol. Like nothing had an influence in who you became? Ie Your environment your peers. What you were rewarded and punished for? This is where we fundamentally disagree. People go through change and get better and you want to punish that? Your mentality is toxic in my opinion. People should be open to change. Thats like someone changing their style of dressing and you being like you’re a poser, thats not really you. What kind of Doctor are you?
/r/seduction05/12/19 09:29 PM
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Adopting attractive behavior is manipulation? Please explain Doctor.
/r/seduction05/12/19 09:06 PM
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Also follow my Ig. Theres proof that ugly guys can pull hot girls. No one has a bigger album than I Do of 8.5s and higher.
/r/seduction05/12/19 08:39 PM
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Its not forcing lol. How about this we can hop on a call. If you’re going to use what I say then I have to explain the delivery etc. and when it works you write about it and credit me. Sound good?
/r/seduction05/12/19 08:34 PM
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Most common mistake with negs is they wait for the reply they give girls too much time to think about it logically. Deliver neg and move on and have her swallow the idea. That could be the reason for hard rejection and you should be following up with a calibrator. “I appreciate your fashion not a lot of girls would wear that it looks good” one of my friends took me to a fashion show so now I have an appreciation for it”. before she has a chance to think about what you said on to the cold reads. …
/r/seduction05/12/19 08:25 PM
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Ok you’re using an extreme example. But lets go with the ugly old guy since most pickup guys are younger and are the ones with the energy to go out. Old guy with good game may be ugly but understands fashion in important. Its not about your looks but about your look. His fashion conveys creativity and social status. Not a guy in a suite like a square but the entrepreneur who dresses free to express himself. He goes in for a direct opener because opinion openers are way too long. And who gives af…
/r/seduction05/12/19 07:50 PM
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You have to have an understanding of a neg first. Yeah you insult the girl you get nowhere. Neg does the same thing as teasing just doesn’t require rapport. If you get her chasing validation she ends up in your bed. There is nothing forced about it. You are an attractive being and girls want hook up its plain and simple. Get the right habits down and you’ll see results. What do you mean you work a shit load of them?
/r/seduction05/12/19 06:52 PM
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Hell yeah it does. What you say to her can turn her on or turn her off. Girls don’t have types more ao than men because they are emotional beings. If you’re into short blondes and a hot tall red head comes youre going to deny that? Lol
/r/seduction05/12/19 06:42 PM
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Where did you get lost? Im saying I favor routines for a beginner eventually people become natural through practice. I appreciate the constructive criticism.
/r/seduction05/12/19 06:21 PM
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Where am I wrong? Check out my page and then call me an Incel lol.
/r/seduction05/12/19 05:57 PM
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I mean going up to her and saying shes beautiful isnt a compliment to her because she gets that all the time. Plus she knows or assumes there are other intentions behind that. Small talk is just boring. But if your intentions are to make her laugh, tell her something interesting, compliment her (something that matters to her) make her day better, then she will thank you for approaching her. Always have a reason to close, what are you inviting her to. That thing you invite her to she should reall…
/r/seduction04/12/19 08:02 AM
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Situational opener with small talk is whats making it hard for you. You feel its hard to transition to from stranger to someone in her social life. Of course you could get someone to join you from line if you say the right things.
/r/seduction04/12/19 07:54 AM
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Thats where we disagree. Good game is really rare. People game based on rule of thumbs. This is everyones game. Go direct compliment on looks off the bat as an opener Its a numbers game machine gun approach Have fun Self amusement Dont be outcome dependent. Be overly overt on your interest without any kind of qualification None of what i stated above is technical so if everyone is doing what I mentioned above then yes the guy with looks will win. Uglier guys have better game because they have to…
/r/seduction28/11/19 05:38 AM
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Yes in general yes time is better spent doing bight game. Thats why day game for me is integrated into my life. I dont go out to game but when I see a set best believe Im going for it. A lot of times i pull into the social circle Ive built that builds value and then I close. But once in a while if i have the time and bot feeling lazy ill instant date or do 1 on 1 on a day 2. Day game is harder to get blown out less obstacles. Its the approach thats wrong. A lot if times managing distance and bod…
/r/seduction28/11/19 02:49 AM
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Very true. LA had a place called the grove. The hottest girls go shopping there. Also melrose. Day game is everywhere game ill see the hottest girls doing random things. Gym I actually game a lot.
/r/seduction28/11/19 02:45 AM
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That club theory changes when you go to places like LA new york vegas miami. LA is a prime example. Clubs are exlusive they dont let guys in unless they spend thousands to get it. Im friends with a promoter because i use pick up to bring girls with me. But the hottest girls do go to these clubs . Clubs are small so they exclude. But per sqaure inch hottestgirls in one area. Vegas had big djs hot girls go New york you have places like 1 oak Miami-liv Each of these places have absolute stunners in…
/r/seduction28/11/19 02:43 AM
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You learn to love it. Get better at it, if you started getting massive results trust You’ll love night game game. Im naturally an introvert too. But i changed myself now I enjoy going out. Night game isnt a chore i go out with a circle enjoy and see girls I like and merge with my group.
/r/seduction28/11/19 02:35 AM
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Go direct. Tell them exactly why you are approaching them. You guys look like fun ( opener) pause...let them accept what you said. Then continue feel like i should make new friends. Let them know that you have girls in your group that you frequently hang out with this is your dhv and also you wanna let them know you can bring value. But make sure to disqualify yourself at first also. Go in there to legitimately make new friends and when you find out which girls are available you can start flippi…
/r/seduction28/11/19 02:33 AM
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People who have a thirst for knowledge.
/r/seduction28/11/19 02:27 AM
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Also your results doesn’t prove as true. I see why youre saying that but Im an overweight guy getting the opposite results. Im not talking down at you but its your skills that are stopping you. Not your looks.
/r/seduction28/11/19 02:26 AM
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Yes Im talking about fucking. Thats what everything leads to. Can you not get it through your thick skull? lol. Girls do not get attracted the same way men do. We see a girl and we want to fuck her because of her body. Girls don’t give a fuck about that. They will fuck and uglier guy and enjoy it. They will go for charisma every time. In the end good game results in you being charismatic In a regular persons eyes. If you can get into sexual framing and get her to be sexual at the same time being…
/r/seduction28/11/19 02:25 AM
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Its definitely possible. Just not to happen as quick or as often as night game.
/r/seduction27/11/19 01:34 PM
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Night game Fast pace Day game slow pace Can get girlfriends from both or casual hookups from both. If you’re going for one night stand she isn’t hot enough for you.
/r/seduction27/11/19 11:16 AM
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Get more girls in your funnel. Keep yourself busy. Always strive to meet better and hotter. Work on gaining access to places where hotter girls go.
/r/seduction27/11/19 06:52 AM
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The better looking the girl the less she places value on looks. The only thing that makes hotter girls difficult is that they are surrounded by guys who want them or their girlfriends. They usually tend to be placed in the middle hardest to get to. I don’t l consider myself good looking and open and build attraction with hotter girls than average girls. DHVs also hit much harder a long with negs. Ugly men also tend to act wit undesirable behaviors so yes they have less choice.
/r/seduction27/11/19 06:11 AM
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Who wouldn’t want to strive for 8s and up. Are most people interested in 7s and below. Is that what you prefer? Girls going for looks is more rare than you think. Anyone who can successfully open sets attract and merge will win over looks. People who have no technique think that looks play a bigger role. There’s a world of knowledge that can give anyone an edge. This advice can be applied anywhere. How does believing looks matter help anyone? Lol
/r/seduction26/11/19 03:50 AM
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Yes exactly! Money no, social status yes. But thats what game really is communicating, showing, and building social status. If your’e a governor, it’s status not so much social status. If your’e a model photographer make under 6 figures thats high social status. Even Vip hosts at top venues have social status.
/r/seduction26/11/19 01:30 AM
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Yes 10 percent. Money itself the same. If used for proper logistics I’d give it 20 percent. The rest is your social status most importantly behavior. Behavior and status are tied together because you communicate status with your behavior. Guys with preselection at a club will pull more girls than a really good looking guy. Maybe in common gen pop places where a 7 gets validated by going home with the hot guy. But in the big leagues looks hardly count for anything. Ugly guys with clout pull all t…
/r/seduction26/11/19 01:21 AM
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100 is an exaggerated example. Realistically if shes at a .01 percent chance shes not going out with him. Even at a 49 percent chance. When you tell people its a numbers game it’s great for motivation but doesn’t tell someone to fix the issue. It says keep doing what you’re doing eventually you’ll get a result. But then they keep running into a wall then get discouraged, hate game then quit.
/r/seduction26/11/19 01:15 AM
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Whats your plan and reason for getting their number?
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:00 PM
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Im sure he’s approached more than five. You think someone who started out went 5 for 5 number closing. He’s talking about 5 contacts converting to a date. Alleast one should convert to date. But hasn’t even got a reply.
/r/seduction25/11/19 02:54 PM
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That’s assuming they are practicing good technique. Practicing poor technique that gets no results produces bad habits. People may get a little bit better but a quick plateau or very long learning curve. We assume by practicing we just get better but can get better at doing something incorrectly. People have a distain for pickup because of so many poor results. I would rather teach someone that never approached, than someone watch a bunch a free videos and practicing incorrectly based on a few r…
/r/seduction25/11/19 01:52 PM
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Realize that you will start to experience more flaky numbers only because you are now getting flaky numbers. Most people will give you a bunch of theory and just repeat and create versions from RSD. Few things you can do that you can take action on, Simple Greeting, Low investment text that only give such as Happy Saturday! (Girls will reply to these messages because they are positive and simple) High value invite. Must know your area. For example I live in LA. Soho house is very popular. Any gi…
/r/seduction25/11/19 01:00 PM
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Its not a numbers game. Thats a very dangerous mentality. Gamblers fallacy. Getting rejected 100 times does not mean the next approach should increase your chance. If you sucked before you will still sucked unless you diagnose and change behavior. The last interaction has no effect on future interaction. There is something he has to fix.
/r/seduction25/11/19 12:47 PM
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I agree with you 100 percent! People do not value having female friends. Girls have a sense if youre the gay best friend of if the girls around you have some sort of attraction. Truth is some of my closest girl fiends I’ve cold approach but just by our natural personality we are better off as friends. Thats what lead me getting invited to the exclusive parties is that i always had hot girls with me. I have one big funnel. Funny you brought JMULV up. Ive seen some of his posts and he has his loya…
/r/seduction29/03/18 08:32 AM
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Yes you are absolutely correct! I dont teach micro calibration until they have their personal stack material down. And i dont teach speed seduction, (natural game) such as sexual framing, banter, quick escalation, and role play until they can micro calibrate. And you are also correct about them not being real no’s There are 2 types of No’s rejection and objections. Micro-calibration can turn the objections around in a a set fairly easily. They’re just small no’s. The key is to never get blown ou…
/r/seduction28/03/18 05:57 AM
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Allow me to clarify. Im going to escalate until she puts the brakes on me. I wont put the brakes on myself. If a girls says no, and if youre trained in technical pickup, the micro-calibration models states that you would iod, neg/tease or nonverbal ( its cannot come of as reactive to her saying no) then go back to demonstrating value and go through smaller compliances again until shes ready for the big compliance that you want from her. Going through the micro-calibration correctly models gets t…
/r/seduction27/03/18 11:20 PM
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Cold approach is shouldn’t be creepy. Although i believe in building a great social circle (thats the ultimate goal of pickup) My ability to cold approach sets me aside from my “natural friends”. I have something they dont have. So in a social circle setting ie exclusive party. I cannot depend on my friends or other people introducing me. I may have to approach within that circle. But i cold approach all the time but its never creep. If cold approach is creepy then there is something that been d…
/r/seduction27/03/18 11:09 PM
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Thats a very common thought process. Being up front and giving the statement of interest i like you is something everyone does. The problem with that is that she doesn’t realize she likes me until she experiences the various emotions. You know people say things like show intent, to be so literal upfront, without any kind of challenge. if shes already invested/ attracted then that could work. I needed to BUILD attraction first. Pulling the trigger too soon and giving a girl at her caliber an ulti…
/r/seduction27/03/18 12:37 AM
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Thank you!
/r/seduction26/03/18 11:38 PM
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Hi yes i will be posting more on here. Facebook, snap chat, and ig. I am new to the forum. One of my students recommended that i start sharing on here. My ig is cmau. My snap chat is cmau2. My social media isn’t necessarily catered to the pick up community. It is catered to the women I meet. I just allow guys interested in pick up see how I utilize social media as a tool to build preselection, interest and trust. I mostly post snap chat because its what ive been doing the last 24 hours. As far a…
/r/seduction26/03/18 11:31 PM
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Thank you. Im glad I can provide value.
/r/seduction26/03/18 11:23 PM
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I dont disagree. Mine for the moment.
/r/seduction26/03/18 01:51 AM
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Preselection. Jealousy plot line Pass the shit test Sexual framing Role play Pass the shit test Handle amog How to amog Go for the girl you want, not the one that is available.
/r/seduction25/03/18 11:01 PM
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