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They're very similar. However, the typical female friendzone is a lot more comfortable than the male equivalent.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/13 01:42 PM
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I advise everyone to scroll down to Yareally's texting advice.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/13 01:07 AM
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The % of women that do porn is extremely small. Otherwise pretty solid list. There is more "soft" prostitution than many people realize, especially in places like LA.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/13 12:05 AM
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I'm female. It makes us feel like we're not worth much as a person. Your feelings are accurate. You're not worth much to this guy, why should he pretend?
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 11:56 PM
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JT says: ” (1) Man up and marry those sluts (Blue Pill) (2) Build a life of hedonism (PUA) (3) Forsake civilization (MGTOW) (4) Be patient and pray (Traditional) (5) Try to change the system from within (MRA) (1) is untenable, (2) is unsatisfying, (3) is suicide, (4) is inaction, (5) is futile. These seem like poor choices.”
/r/askTRP22/05/13 11:14 PM
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why the fuck do you even have to pay her at ALL? your overton window has slid and now you're thinking like a crazy person. THIS!
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 03:20 PM
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Day-to-day, the state doesn't really interfere. It's when things go belly up that it will bring it's full force onto you. This is a common misconception. It's called "Bargaining In the Shadow of the Law" and it affects you every day. Just because YOU are not aware of the massive power differential, don't for a second imagine she doesn't, and it will color everything she does. If you have a great, loving relationship, this is one of the most surefire ways to ruin it.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 03:20 PM
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Apparently these two variables are enough to reduce the divorce risk to 20%. Not unreasonable to me. If 20% of the time it absolutely RUINS you, and 80% it doesn't give you anything you didn't have before, yeah, that is pretty unreasonable, and is a contract no rational business would sign off in. Neither should a rational man.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 03:17 PM
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Nobody is arguing that Grandpa's Marriage wasn't a good deal...it was. Unfortunately, it's no longer being offered. We no longer have the once great institution of marriage, just it's rotting corpse. I don't feel like sticking my dick in a rotting corpse...or a meatgrinder for that matter.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 03:14 PM
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Listen well, gentlemen. Love her all you want but you will do whatever it takes to avoid legal ties with a woman, including walking away from her. Do you honestly think the family court system gives a fuck about your feelings? Grow up, and take your goddamned pills. Softharem speaks the truth!
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 03:11 PM
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Xsplat is one of the Mad Scientists of Game, sometimes way off in left field, sometimes absolutely brilliant. Judge for yourself here. We have been brainwashed by this whole bullshit feminine imperative that men are not supposed to be in positions of authority. So brainwashed that as a culture we are ashamed of our of own healthy loving paternal instincts. Paternal love is enormously powerful. Mix it with strong powerful eroticism and you have an atomic bomb of intimacy. Love your girl like your…
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 02:30 PM
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Here's where I get stuck. I often see two major trains of thought surrounding women- that their value is directly tied to their sexual attractiveness, and that most men do not value women's intellect over their physical appearance (I've been looking around to see anything that negates this, so please correct me if I am wrong here). If women know this and have internalized this, then they know that after they hit the wall, that they have no value in society. That's certainly an odd way to look at…
/r/TheRedPill18/05/13 01:27 PM
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Who said anything about vanilla? And you do realize that the actual facts of the story are bearing me out? Red Pill 1, SRS troll 0.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/13 07:09 PM
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You know what I'd love? I'd love for her to just push me on my back, strip of my pants and give me an unreciprocated unasked for blowjob just for being a good boyfriend. Well, there is his problem. If you want someone to throw you down on the ground, rip your pants off and have their way with you, you're probably not dominant enough to warrant spontaneous blowjobs.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/13 04:44 PM
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Doing it abruptly is what gives it most of it's power.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/13 03:49 PM
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EDIT: P.S. I knew you weren't OP... Sure you did. Some guys on internet forums act like idiots, and some actually ARE idiots. You're definitely in the latter category, and no amount of pretending is going to change that now.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/13 03:47 PM
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I think you're confused and frustrated...you're not even responding to the guy advocating jerking. Take a deep breath, step away from the computer, and next time read b4 you post.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/13 04:05 AM
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Hopefully this is the case, and not just a ploy to get people to stop cyberstalking him.
/r/TheRedPill08/05/13 04:06 PM
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Sounds like he didn't use a throwaway, and the identifiable info came from other threads. Still stupid, but sometimes people don't realize how easy it is to track somebody down by cyberstalking. You comment on some technical aspects of firefighting one year, and some local conditions in Flint another year...doesn't take long to figure out you're a Flint Michigan Firefighter. Pretty easy from there.
/r/TheRedPill08/05/13 04:03 PM
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It may not be tighter, but it's warmer, wetter, and a better all round sensation. How can u feel the wetness if you're wearing a condom?
/r/TheRedPill08/05/13 03:05 PM
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Roosh has scientifically determined that there are no downsides to raw dogging - http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-18970.html?highlight=raw
/r/TheRedPill08/05/13 03:04 PM
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It's hard to explain high testosterone/high drive feelings to people that don't have them, but try understand that to the rest of us, RPS's statement makes total sense.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/13 11:45 PM
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I have the feeling that this is what he WISHES he did, and that his actual actions that night were a little less stellar. But at least it's a sign people are thinking in the right direction.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/13 12:43 AM
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Welcome aboard! I don't know enough about gay culture to know if we'll be useful to you, but we're always willing to try.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/13 12:36 AM
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Your post is a farce It's pretty clear it's meant to be a farce. It's a satire of the badguys thread.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/13 03:31 PM
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It's tongue-in-cheek satire of the http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1dkjjk/are_we_the_bad_guys_but_we_dont_get_it/ thread. It's a little over the top, but still pretty funny.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/13 03:29 PM
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A masterpiece! Bravo sir! Bravo!
/r/TheRedPill03/05/13 02:54 PM
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The comments are priceless - I don't hate video games but 20-30 hours is extremely excessive for something that doesn't better you in any way. maybe he would play less and spend more time with you if you wouldnt be such a shallow b****
/r/TheRedPill02/05/13 04:54 PM
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Or I can just take a woman on a vacation to... Where did you meet the girl to take on vacation if you haven't made the time to flirt successfully? Not a bottle service fan, but your post doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/13 03:48 PM
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Typical modern woman self esteem issues. She has WAY more self esteem than is warranted, and can't stand the level of guy she's equipped to marry....because that means she's just as unattractive.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/13 03:38 PM
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Absolutely brutal takedown of Christians that forget they they're supposed to be the Alpha AND the Omega, and only remember the Omega. Additional comments by the great Mark Minter.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/13 04:37 PM
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That is such a good idea...that the state took it away from you. Your wife will continue to enjoy all alimony privileges regardless of whether you file with the gov't or not.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/13 03:53 AM
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It's like an Alchoholic going to AA and giving up drinking while those of us that use it responsibly are still going out and having a good time. Do it if you have to, but otherwise just use it for what you need.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/13 07:07 PM
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Someone needs to read about the Coolidge Effect.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/13 07:03 PM
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Guy is obviously deluded, but props for a funny video.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/13 07:01 PM
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They assume if we're afraid that it's "women" we're afraid of. It is not. It's the state. So true.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/13 06:59 PM
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Learn to like to watch play some kind of a football or something, it helps you becoming the kind of man women dig. Playing sports is manly, watching them, not so much. Remember, an athletic supporter is nothing but another man's jocks strap.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/13 06:54 PM
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"I personally avoid movies starring an aged male actor whose sagging virility is propped up by casting a decades younger "love interest". It's creepy, sexist and totally unbelievable. Does she realize the actors are dating younger women in real life too?
/r/TheRedPill26/04/13 04:21 AM
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I've said this before because I don't think everyone who reads this subreddit has actually had to deal with an e-stalker. Terrible game (and manners) on his part, but calling him a stalker is a little dramatic. Keep in mind that some of the lulls include her drinking his booze and smoking his drugs.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/13 06:48 PM
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She should explain to black people that she's only following them around the store because they're Schroedingers Criminal, and might steal something. They're totally cool with this sort of thing, you just have to explain it to them. /s
/r/TheRedPill23/04/13 06:26 PM
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I think it's worth keeping in mind that on average, women just straight up DO have major advantages until their late 20s. It evens out and then advantages men, but you're going to go through a period where it's plainly weighted in their favor.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/13 06:08 PM
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If all you care about is getting laid then yes knowing how to manipulate women into sex would be great knowledge to have. Beat that Strawman a little harder why don't you.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/13 02:49 AM
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A guy being a firearms trainer for the military doesn't change the fact that he's just giving advice on how to kill people. What's your point? This stuff isn't moral, it isn't immoral, it's amoral. Women do not have magic powers that test the moral character of the men they sleep with. The morality of any of this is in how you use it, not the knowledge itself. I prefer knowing to not knowing.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/13 02:46 AM
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nearly three quarters of divorces in the US are filed by women. _ What is this supposed to prove? All it suggests to me is that women spearhead paperwork. Really? That's all it suggests to you? Really? That's all?
/r/TheRedPill23/04/13 02:44 AM
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FTW!
/r/TheRedPill23/04/13 02:35 AM
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Congrats and welcome aboard.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/13 02:34 AM
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Bullseye. This is also why more women have BPD than men. If a man acted that, all his friends would stop hanging with him and he'd never have a girlfriend. For a pretty girl, many of these behaviors are actually rewarded and reinforced.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/13 05:06 PM
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She had stars in her eyes when he told her a 1000 dollars a month. She doesn't realize that the CS guidelines are double that in states like mine. Instead of bribing her into silence, he should have taken a harder line bribing her into doing the right thing.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/13 04:23 PM
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What's even more is you all claim to be alphas and talk shit and belittle anyone who isn't. Kind of the exact opposite of what this sub is about. THP is mostly nice guys in Recovery. They critique these guys because we used to BE these guys...and aspired to be more.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/13 02:57 AM
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Thanks for clarifying that. I had only heard it the other way before.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/13 04:20 PM
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Isn't that the exact opposite of a quota?
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 08:10 PM
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must be a cultural thing, looks ridiculous to me You get to college, and you're immediately offered membership in a popular social club that throws good parties and has a great track record for getting it's members laid. . It ain't that ridiculous from that end.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 07:49 PM
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If I don’t properly tend his every need, a tantrum erupts: “You ate all the Häagen-Dazs? You’re just using me! It’s over!” Ultimately, being paid to put up with these pathological antics is toxic. He supplies the house, money, life of luxury, but expecting a shred of common decency from you is ridiculous?
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 07:42 PM
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5 Dates for poontang? For a successful, cute I-banker that's giving her thousands of dollars?
/r/TheRedPill19/04/13 07:41 PM
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LOL, just because WE wait till 35 doesn't mean we have to choose only 35 year olds.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/13 05:11 PM
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LOL, great post. However, it wasn't just us, women have worked very hard at the "Unionization of the Vagina" - Beating down prostitutes with various legislation (under the guise of "protecting" them from trafficking), beating down foreign women competing with them through IMBRA and other red tape roadblocks.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/13 05:06 PM
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That's because statistically, there are a lot of lonely fat neckbeards that CAN'T get married. This has little to do with successful guys with options not getting married. It's like when they did that study conflating people wasting away of cancer, aids and old age, and then used it to "prove" you were healthier being fat.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/13 04:59 PM
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No, they talk shit about not fucking pro-lifers. It's the same as them saying they don't fuck douchebags.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/13 12:23 AM
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And the most popular ones show no signs of aging. Guys have no problems putting their dick in anything that looks good, age is just a number.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/13 05:09 PM
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Thought he had some good points about society (except for the racist parts). Had strong religious principles about marriages, refused to bend them. Not my cup of tea, but I can see his point about not wanting to be used as a backup plan.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/13 04:49 PM
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The essence of the Rooshtafarian philosophy.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/13 04:34 PM
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RedPillSchool, I'm a big fan of yours, but think you're wrong here. It's a grossly overused (and abused) word, but sometimes it's applicable, and if the shoe fits, you have to wear it. At the very least I don't think it should be off the table for discussion here completely.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/13 04:00 PM
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"Why do my eyes hurt?" "Because you have never used them before"
/r/TheRedPill15/04/13 03:09 AM
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tl:dr It's a Safe Space for men. Just because every traditional men's hang out has been invaded by women doesn't mean we've lost the need to talk with each other.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/13 04:16 PM
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What part of "high personal moral standards" makes you think "asshole"? I'm just refusing to be judged by a hypocritical society.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/13 07:50 PM
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It might be ugly, it might not be what we'd like it to be, but spinning plates is one of the few options some of us have. All the moral and social controls that once protected men are gone, spinning plates is pretty much all we've got left.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/13 03:02 PM
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Well, it's good business, if you know they're getting married you already know they're chumps.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/13 02:58 PM
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Great point. I think a lot of that has to do with societies ongoing War on Manhood. Women are attracted to status the way we like nice bodies. Many an ugly rock star has a beautiful women that considers herself lucky to have him. In earlier times, just being a hardworking, decent kind human being was enough status to keep the average woman happy...and society was better for it. When you add decades of "men ain't shit", and suddenly the average hardworking decent kind man doesn't have the same st…
/r/TheRedPill10/04/13 03:27 AM
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I'm curious if it's ok for a gay man to take the red pill? By your attitude, it sounds like you're already eating it. Welcome aboard.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/13 05:19 PM
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Blatant Straw Man, my friend, you'll have to do better that. I hold myself to high personal moral standards, I just refuse to follow the slave morality of society.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/13 08:52 AM
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That's kind of what I'm trying to tell society - grow up, the man's not a hero. In the meantime, I won't tolerate being treated as less of a human being than him.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/13 08:33 AM
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good post
/r/TheRedPill08/04/13 03:13 PM
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"When a woman goes home with a tattooed thug, it isn't just a lesson for the thug, it's a lesson for every working man that's watching. This is the path that is rewarded!" - Roissy (paraphrased).
/r/TheRedPill08/04/13 03:11 PM
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George is apparently addicted to Straw Manning. He just can't stop, even when repeatedly called on it.
/r/TheRedPill08/04/13 02:40 PM
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Yes its going to be bitter for a while... Not as bitter as the 8 month load he just blew in her mouth. I bet that felt goooooooood!
/r/TheRedPill05/04/13 04:55 PM
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that a woman’s pleasure must be expected and assumed, because how could she ever resist a man? The “just say no” part of the rule didn’t always exist. That developed later when society realized that women should have some say in the matter. Duh. Actually, until recently society expected women to violently resist rape. It is only recently that the courts started accepting zero signs of force, fear, weapons or drugs as consistent with rape.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/13 12:46 AM
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That's the sting of the red pill. Tall and muscular is the equivalent of narrow waist with big boobs. I'd say just the equivalent of great boobs. It's still possible for a guy to be very attractive without being tall and muscular. The same cannot be said of fat chicks.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/13 11:49 PM
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I haven't heard of her being followed by police or labeled part of a Hate Group like Roosh. Yeah, her stuff is pretty safe and pretty tame. How many guys can keep a white collar career posting this stuff?
/r/TheRedPill04/04/13 08:55 PM
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When I started blogging, I had a decision to make. I knew that writing under my real name would affect not just me, but also my husband and my kids. I also knew that without that honesty and conviction... How brave of her, to write safe, relatively popular, mainstream stuff under her own name.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/13 08:40 PM
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Where have all the good men gone? They're right where you left them...in your twenties.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/13 04:50 PM
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Question - personal knowledge of the parties, or assumption based to the White-Knight pro female bias so evident in the link?
/r/TheRedPill04/04/13 03:36 PM
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That's actually not a strawman. It's a no true Scotsman fallacy. But thanks for pointing that out. There are plenty of better ways to word that. Let me make that clear. You claim it's not a Strawman, then prove it is AGAIN by again mis-stating my argument. Musicians and athletes were used as common examples (mostly because they are common desires). If a woman likes brilliant physicists that were tall, rich and good looking, the same would apply - she's not going to disqualify him from marriage f…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/13 03:33 PM
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There's no reason to have a "long term relationship" with anybody, unless you want to start a family with them. What if you've got someone that continues to make you happy every day? Plenty reason for me. Why would I dump them if they're treating me great and making me happy?
/r/TheRedPill03/04/13 10:15 PM
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Any guy who thinks women just want to marry rock stars is confusing banging with marrying. Beat that Strawman a little harder why don't you? "Best" is different for different people. Very true...and completely irrelevant to my point.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/13 09:35 PM
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Blerg, this line of thought is absurd. If a woman has a chance at marrying the rockstar she is crazy about, or Tom Brady, or someone else that is richer/more famous/more worldly, more powerful than she is, she's not going to say "can't marry him, he's too good for me, won't be an equal relationship". You marry the best you can for the things you like. Seriously, this was one of the wackiest things I've ever seen on Reddit.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/13 03:51 PM
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You're presupposing these toxic views are purely "American". They're absolutely heading your way.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/13 03:33 PM
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When recounting this chain of events, a male game developer at the table said that she only got the GDC pass “because of her tits.” What if he is correct?
/r/TheRedPill03/04/13 03:29 PM
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Wow, Toronto living up to the rep!
/r/TheRedPill03/04/13 05:07 AM
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It's a Female Privilege, like water to a fish. You might not be aware enough of the world around you to see it, but it's definitely there.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/13 05:05 AM
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Most people are more concerned that a relationship work, and make the people in it happy than fulfill some abstract Feminist "equality" goal.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/13 05:01 AM
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...but doesn't apply to all the developed world. Yet. This is the world your children are facing, and it's going to be absolutely BRUTAL for them if they keep trying to be "nice" in a society that doesn't respect it.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 07:13 PM
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Its likely she wasn't honest with the guy because his experience was limited and because of social pressure, obviously. She made him wait 2 months for a BJ. It was obviously a cynical ploy to manipulate him.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 07:02 PM
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All they kept saying, over and over, was that it was in the past, you shouldn't judge her for her past... What should we judge them on, astrology?
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 07:00 PM
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"In a row?" - Clerks
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 06:56 PM
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WHy do you care? Assuming all this took place well before you knew her, its really none of your business. If you wanted to marry a virgin, you should have been upfront about it. Many attractive young women have had way more than 35, they just like to round that nuber down for social reasons. So if he's doesn't want to marry a virgin, it's wrong for him to have any standards at all?
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 06:54 PM
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Roosh said one of his hardest adaptions traveling to certain countries was treating women better and getting rewarded for it. Also, many people caught up in our Divorce Industrial Complex or revictimized by the state after being victims of Domestic Abuse had no idea how bad the system was until they were being ground up in the machine. Marginalizing and silencing the victims is not the same thing as not having a problem.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 06:49 PM
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Courting by demonstrating all the qualities that would make a great father and husband...how manipulative!
/r/TheRedPill30/03/13 03:58 PM
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Don't assume women know that nice-guy orbiters are interested in them sexually. They usually don't. It's possible a few don't. It's possible that many don't dunderstand the depth of the feeling. For "most" to not know that they're actually sexually interested is incrediblytunlikely. If the guys doesn't have the balls to make the move, it gives her awesome Plausible Deniability, but that's not the same thing as not knowing. Complete Bluepill thinking.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/13 03:56 PM
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Great post there by Zhai - The blog world is slowing eating away at “mainstream” media like newspapers. The newspapers are like a tyrannosaurus rex in a tarpit. They can scream and struggle, but they’re sinking. The manosphere doesn’t need a leader. It is more effective without any single leader. If we have a leader, we can be co-opted. The leader can be bribed and brought to heel. If we have no leader, we might never become mainstream, but that doesn’t mean we won’t have a salutary effect.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/13 03:48 PM
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Larry Summers lost his job at Harvard for even suggesting that an alleged academic institution might study WHY females were scoring lower.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/13 03:18 PM
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I hate to post what's basicly a a misandrist advertisement, but if you read the subtext, it demonstrates everything wrong with the modern entitlement attitude. Literally, the only thing the guy did was run out of money, and there are a thousand comments on various sites excoriating him. But when she opens a business and loses everything, she is a goddamn hero.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/13 02:28 PM
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The part that gives me a raging hard on when I see a hottie. The part that made girlie mags a billion dollar industry for decades. The part that makes half the internet about porn. I'm not as good with biology as the average redditor You're damn right you're not as good at biology as the average redditor!
/r/TheRedPill28/03/13 11:25 PM
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Yeah, she needs transcripts. Agreed. I undterstand why she does it, youtube is better for building a brand and personal fame, but writing just straight up expresses ideas faster. She wrote a response to a PM that was one of the best manosphere things I've ever read. Can anyone link it?
/r/TheRedPill28/03/13 10:19 PM
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That ain't the way the hamster rolls. This will devolve into endless fat girl excuses. And there is ALREADY a huge fPUA movement, read the cover of Cosmo someday We're the ones playing catch up with them.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/13 10:10 PM
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LOL at the deranged victim blaming by Poop in the comments.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/13 10:07 PM
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If they grow, maybe the 'that hot guy should love my fat ass for me' movement will wake up The exact oppositie of what they're doing. They're thinking they can overcome the fatass factor by using PUA tactics that are a thousand times more effective on women.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/13 09:46 PM
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...but it's a social construct, and in no way carved into DNA. LOL at lust not being carved into our DNA. Truly one of the most ignorant statements I've ever seen on Reddit.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/13 09:37 PM
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LOL, good find.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/13 09:33 PM
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He didn't have to let her tirade tear him down. And that is how he accomplished that goal. He also didn't have to make it a point to show her how unimportant she was to him. Yes, men should just be emotional tampons and punching bags fr women. She took the the harsh tone with him, she get's treated harshly back. If she had treated him respectfully, maybe he would have treated her respectfully.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/13 06:41 PM
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This an actually be observed in numerous Personal Ads. "I want a guy that is fit and athletic" "..don't want a guy that's obsessed with the gym". They want the results of the hard work, without making the sacrifices to get it.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/13 06:35 PM
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That's how thought...until I swallowed the Red Pill.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/13 06:33 PM
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Good God!
/r/TheRedPill23/03/13 11:01 PM
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Great piece.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/13 02:06 PM
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This part drove me nuts. More women will tie the knot to a man with means, this doesn't mean it's the CAUSE of them making more money.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/13 02:03 PM
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if it would be in the hands of men, all the streets would be covered in couples having sex. Is that really how you see yourself? It is actually a pretty good description of many gay "cruising" areas where men do indeed have it "in their hands". Facts 1, Shaming Language 0.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 07:13 PM
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Alpha Females are all Hyenas...I like it!
/r/TheRedPill18/03/13 01:16 AM
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Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and just go where the women are (even if it's not completely your scene). You've got to find a way to make it your scene, and own that scene, or you're not going to have the contacts to make it work. Doesn't have to be clubs or bars, try a Yoga or some other kind of class that grows you in one way or another...just make sure iths women in it. And Roosh advises watching one hour of Seinfeld a week to sharpen your mindless patter and fill any gaps in a convers…
/r/TheRedPill18/03/13 01:03 AM
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Upvoted for "meta-narcissism".
/r/TheRedPill16/03/13 02:15 AM
1

There is a classic Louis CK bit on this subject - "I'm supposed to risk my freedom on the off chance you're into this shit?"
/r/TheRedPill14/03/13 04:46 PM
1

I think the biggest problem with this is preventing Bubba from F closing you on Day 2 of your prison sentence.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/13 04:45 PM
1

Lots of Bluepill comments on the Redpill forum today.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/13 04:40 PM
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Yes, "What if" she knew how much cock her precious little daughter was sucking.... Seriously, wtf kind of a comment is that OP? A very accurate one.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/13 04:37 PM
2

The guys aren't going on dates, they're hanging out in groups and just "hooking up" with whatever they like. That's not being a pussy, being a pussy is taking them on endless dates when you don't have to.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/13 04:31 PM
1

Redpill is a good deal better than Seddit ever was. Let's hope it stays that way.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/13 04:24 PM
1

This is shocking. You were so popular there back in the day.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/13 04:22 PM
1

Small technical point that may influence your decision - skinny is a choice. Nerds get jacked faster than meatheads of equal talent. There is actual science behind lifting, and you'll always be ahead of the guys depending on "bro-science" from their gym buddies and the next mass marketed fad/scam. If you make your gaming hobby about "leveling up" your body and your own stats instead of leveling up your character's stats, this can be an amazing journey. It was well documented by one scwawny WOW n…
/r/TheRedPill07/02/13 04:00 PM
1

Roosh advises one heavy book an an hour of Seinfeld a week. He says the idle banter of Senfeld gives you something to fill in any gap, and the books give you the depth.
/r/seduction18/05/12 03:59 AM
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Her claim that Betas have an easier time getting relationships is pure BS. The players may not value or choose relationships, but they certainly get offered them more often.
/r/seduction01/05/12 12:24 AM
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It's an art in itself, but still rooted in the same principles. Athol Kay has a good blog on "Married Man Game". This stuff will become VERY imprortant to you after you have kids. Fucking up and then Nexting her is a lot harder when she takes your kids, your house, and the majority of your income with her.
/r/seduction28/04/12 11:33 PM
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IMHO - most of the advice men give women is just as bad as the advice women commonly give men. I see a huge trend towards advice that makes things easier for men, or how to do things that make men happy....instead of focusing on what accomplishes goals for women. Most women have been taught game at a pretty high level since they were 9. Few guys are going to have productive advice for high level players in such a different situation. It's like an elite college player trying to teach 50yish divor…
/r/seduction19/04/12 02:44 PM
1

Liked this gem - today it is very hard to be a family man with and sustain a loving family and a strong marriage. Today, if you have enough status to be a strong family man, you probably also have enough status to be a player with a soft harem. This is a major shift from what was the case in the past where only the highest status men could be “players” and most regular men could easily lead a family.
/r/MensRights23/03/12 06:33 PM
1

I'm a prettty amazing catch right now - I've lived a fairly long and very accomplished life, been a good father, have an amazing and beautiful girlfriend thats been completely devoted to me for many years, a great sidepiece thats one of my best friends (both of whom I can be honest with and understand my need to be with other women). Some parts of my game are at an extremely high level (my LTR game is probably as good as Athol Kay's or the "68 year old natural giving advice" referenced earlier i…
/r/seduction22/03/12 08:06 PM
1

You don't have to be perfectly consistent, you just have to win big when it matters.
/r/seduction22/03/12 07:51 PM
0

If you don't know how you should feel... I know exactly how I feel if they meant it disrespectfully, and I know how I feel if they thought I was just such an amazing stud they thought their drunken friend was privileged to be hooking up with me, I know how I feel if they could just instinctively tell I was a good and decent person and they could trust me to protect their vulnerable friend from predatory douchebags. I just don't understand which way they meant it (it was an unusual situation). It…
/r/seduction20/03/12 04:15 PM
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Pretty much. I was a "nice guy" when i was young, and it didn't always work out that well, so instead I transformed myself from a "Nice Guy" to a "Good Man". There is a big difference, and if I'm still subcommunicating "nice guy" in some of my interactions with women, it's something I want to work on.
/r/seduction20/03/12 03:47 PM
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Not as useful as starting the party with the hottest girl there hanging all over me. Read my other posts to get a better feel for the situation.
/r/seduction20/03/12 03:28 PM
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Friends were fugly. As stated above, was fun (and useful) to start the party with the hottest girl there hanging all over me. Then moved on to the other attractive women at the party. I'm mainly concerned that something about my demeanor is making me come across as too "nice" and "safe" to women. I'm respected (and often feared) by men (very tall, muscular, artisticly broken nose, facial scars earned the hard way, cauliflower ears, a lot of physical confidence from having lived a crazy life), bu…
/r/seduction20/03/12 03:22 PM
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Not sure if you got the subtext - we're on a Pick Up board, I'm asking if I'm sending the wrong signals in my interactions. I'm sorry you find "Offended" to be a such a loaded word, and that it "Offends" you so much. Try not to take the word, or "life" so "seriously" in the future. And to me, it sounds like you're being a "fucking pussy" and drama queen over a humorous choice of words in a FR.
/r/seduction20/03/12 01:34 PM
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Hilariously fro the same website Paddy, like Mick or Taig (Teague), has been used for centuries as an ethnic slur—a common form of disrespect referring to an entire body of people by a stereotypical name—but it's not an insult if it's actually your name. It depends on intent: shout my name at me with a brick attached and I'll take it as an insult.
/r/seduction20/03/12 11:28 AM
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There are huge numbers of elite players that rely on substances. In the US, I would even say the majority of elite naturals commonly use alcohol. There are legitimate arguments against alcohol, but lets not pretend no elite player uses it.
/r/seduction19/03/12 07:29 PM
1

that kind of "speedball" variant is probably more common than u think.
/r/seduction19/03/12 07:25 PM
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I think your view is slanted by the fact that YOU can't handle alcohol, and endlessly spend time listening to the other bottom 10% of people that can't handle alcohol in moderation. The fact is, the MAJORITY of people can moderate their alcohol use in a healthy way.
/r/seduction19/03/12 07:24 PM
1

Uhm Drunkess and Soberness do not make an effect to your game in the sense that it won't increase your "wins".... What do you say to the guys that it does increase wins for? I know several successful guys that wouldn't be as good without alcohol. You can call it a crutch if you want, but the fact is, the guy with a crutch moves faster than a guy with same bum leg and no crutch. You know, there is such a thing as "performance enhancing drug" - it's the main reason they have drug testing in sports…
/r/seduction19/03/12 07:20 PM
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So, if there's a genetic "alphaness" that reliably increases your attractiveness, then we should all have it, just like we all have hands and eyes and brains. There are competing and concurrent mating strategies for both sides. Lets also not forget that todays society makes "acting alpha" strategy about a hundred times safer by shielding people from the violent consequences of their actions. The penalty for "acting alpha" when you couldn't back it up during most of evolutionary history was prett…
/r/seduction19/03/12 06:49 PM
2

If you make them more interested in you, suddenly they are not that busy anymore. Or they're too busy for other guys because they're too busy with you. If you fail to generate enough interest, they're always busy.
/r/seduction08/03/12 03:52 AM
1

Very smooth and educational.
/r/seduction08/03/12 03:51 AM
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All due respect, I strongly dislike the idea. You're throwing away the biggest strengths of Seddit, and adding an extra level hierarchy/beuracracy that serves no purpose and simply doesn't need to exist. It could keep people accountable, and help make sure they dont "fall off the bus" so to speak after that initial spurt of enthusiasm. And this sounds like it has a lot of potential for straight up douchebaggery. Seddit is a tool and a resource, and you take from it as much as you need to accordi…
/r/seduction03/03/12 11:33 PM
1

A lot of people are asking - why is this guy so determined to cockblock you? True friends are happy when their friends succeed. Why is he so vested in you not having fun?
/r/seduction03/03/12 11:19 PM
2

Any party with a 6-1 ration men to women is going to have shitty fucked up vibe.
/r/seduction03/03/12 10:53 PM
1

First off, give them something to be attracted to. Invest in yourself instead investing in trying to make other people happy. Do you go the gym regularly? You can't complain about people not being attracted to you if you're not putting in the work to be an attractive person on some level. Improve something about yourself that will help you achieve your goal here, whether your body, your fashion or whatever, but pick something and do it, make it happen. People will talk about confidence, but the …
/r/seduction03/03/12 09:49 PM
1

Women treat men that give their devotion too cheaply with the same disdain that men treat women that give their virtue too easily. A man will use a slut for sex but never giver her his heart, a woman will use a Herb for emotional support, but never give him her body.
/r/seduction03/03/12 09:43 PM
1

There is a forum that specializes in just this topic, run by a fairly elite and insightful PUA - Rooshv.com
/r/seduction03/03/12 09:29 PM
1

Nope, he's busting his ass to to get a real degree (engineering) so he can provide for his kid better. He think his investment in an engineering degree is better use of resources for the child than her investent (breat implants).
/r/MensRights26/02/12 04:12 AM
1

That would be much appreciated.
/r/MensRights26/02/12 04:04 AM
2

I'm denying the existence of the Patricarchy altogether, it's a completely bullshit concept. Read up on Kyriarchy, a much more nuanced (and accurate) description of human relations.
/r/MensRights26/02/12 04:02 AM
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No. People do not breed like that. Do you seriously believe that 99.99% of people reproduce like this? No, which is why I never claimed they did. I stated 99.99% of human societies are larger than a single completely independent nuclear family. You're either trying to fabricate a really bad Straw Man argument (because you lack the ability to debate my actual points) or reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.
/r/MensRights25/02/12 06:29 PM
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First off, they're not trying to be helpful, they're trying to score cheap points at your expense. Then they're disrespecting you again by trying to lie to you about their motives. They've gotten positive responses from the crowd by throwing you under the bus, it has become part of the group dynamic, and you're going to have to take a hard line to put an end to it. Make it clear that cockblocking is unacceptable. Bring up something (privately) that would horrificly embarass them in front of a gi…
/r/seduction25/02/12 06:20 PM
1

It's appropriate to use the term alpha in an artificial pack where, you know, you might put many wolves together from different assemblages, unrelated wolves and that kind of thing. In other words, if they formed bigger bands (similar in size to primitive human tribes), they would immediately form a pecking order with an Alpha Male. You're not doing a good job of showing that the term isn't applicable to humans. And you're not doing a good job of hiding your ideological bent either - "renouncing…
/r/MensRights24/02/12 06:25 PM
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It's a form of "social engineering" by studying the things that women are irrationally attracted to, and "hacking" them. Some of it is healthy (go to the gym, force yourself to become more social) some of it is superficial, and some of it is straight up mimicking the douchebag behaviors that women like the most (look up the Dark Triad of narcissistic personality traits). You walk the razors edge, because how much douchebag behavior can you copy before you lose your soul and you are no longer cop…
/r/MensRights24/02/12 05:18 AM
1

Except for the part at 1:40 where he says it's entirely appropriate to call a wolf an alpha male. You accuse other people of twisting his words to match an agenda, and then you twist his words to match YOUR agenda.
/r/MensRights24/02/12 04:27 AM
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Women are biologically programmed to seek what would be a good mate in what was essentially a primitive baboon tribe millenia ago. These douches and thugs represent what were the "best bets" for a previous era. Civilization is a blink of an eye in terms of human evolution, so we're kind of stuck with them often being attracted to what would be a "successful man" in caveman terms, not what makes a good mate in modern cvilization.
/r/MensRights24/02/12 04:17 AM
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I don't understand what the problem is, Domestic Violence is always, always funny. That's why posting lurid fantasies of savage acts of Domestic Violence is always acceptable behavior.
/r/MensRights18/02/12 09:56 PM
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Overall, it's FAR better than the advice you'll get on relationships anywhere else. It has transformed my life and my relationships. There is a game website dedicate soley to applying game principles to LTR - Google Athol Kay. Half of marriages end in divorce. Most of the rest involve people living lives of quiet desperation. Life is journey, not a destination...the Game never ends, don't pretend it does.
/r/seduction18/02/12 03:22 PM
1

Negotiating hard for raises obviously isn't going to be as effective for people that aren't working as hard. You have a lot less to bargain with. Statistically, women take a lot more sick time, maternity time, time for family etc.
/r/MensRights12/01/12 01:29 AM
1

The Dunning Krueger effect is when a layman rejects expert information because he doesn't have the capacity to understand or evaluate it. That's funny, because that's not the definition of the Kreuger Dunning Effect. I think you were getting angry and trying to make a clever Ad Hominem attack...but you weren't quite clever enough to make it work, and clowned yourself instead.
/r/MensRights12/01/12 01:27 AM
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I have to quote an important reply by c0mputar that is in danger of getting orphanned - The only controls was "full-time" (lol), without self-employment or part-time (in another job or job title), and whether or not they were periods where they were no longer employed due to a variety of reasons including family. You can still be employed if you are on paternity/maternity/week vacation/etc... And full-time? They don't even bother to differentiate between the 40 hour worker and the 80 hour worker…
/r/MensRights12/01/12 01:24 AM
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He who chases loses races.
/r/seduction10/01/12 01:57 AM
1

Great piece
/r/seduction08/01/12 02:31 PM
1

Some of that was absolutely beautiful.
/r/seduction08/01/12 04:57 AM
1

It was well written....but seriously, how many people didn't already understand this on some level or another? Alpha/Beta may be abstractions, but they're frequently very useful abstractions.
/r/seduction07/01/12 05:13 PM
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This part was a thing of beauty She siphoned off what she thought was the best of a bad lot in the form of a vertically challenged, badly-dressed misogynist. "I ironed his shirts, made him dinner, wore sexy lingerie, and alphabetised his porn collection. "We went to a friend's wedding and I got a bit weepy and asked him if we were ever going to tie the knot. "He dumped me -- by text -- then had the nerve to ask me to wash the stuff he left in the laundry basket before he collected it."
/r/MensRights06/01/12 04:25 AM
3

Ever consider some girls that have the dark triad as well? Dating assholes goes both ways. Except when it doesn't. Yeah, men can be mindfucked into emotional roller coaster relationships sometimes, but for the most part, men put up with "asshole" behavior to get someone the already find physically attractive, it doesn't CREATE attraction the same way it does for women. Trying to pretend there is some kind of equivalency here is shallow, when it's about 100-1 more effective for men.
/r/seduction05/01/12 02:43 PM
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Be honest, being genuinely nice doesn't work either.
/r/MensRights02/01/12 01:13 AM
1

In the US these types of laws are illegal. It wouldn't be ex-post facto or illegal if they suddenly decided to start charging you Child Support in the FUTURE (say 5 years from now). I think that is the major issue. When they decided to extended Child Support from 18 to 22 (plus half of all college expenses), nobody got to say "That wasn't the law when I had the kid"...they were on the hook for another 100 thousand dollars with no defense or recourse whatsoever.
/r/MensRights02/01/12 01:10 AM
1

You mean the people that agreed to take responsibilty for those expenses? That was bullshit.
/r/MensRights02/01/12 01:01 AM
2

It's such a divisive subject that I've actually heard PUAs bring it up to distract AMOGs. They argue politics while he swoops the girl by seeming like the fun one.
/r/seduction30/12/11 10:35 PM
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Great article
/r/MensRights24/12/11 07:28 PM
1

What a vile, vile human being! But I guess everyone else here already knew that. It's amazing how much of his self flagellating desire to take down himself (and as many other men as possible) still remains. WE are now the girlfriend he is trying to kill in his suicide fantasy. He wants to destroy our manhood in a giant flaming explosion, and doesn't care how many neighbors he kills, or if we are down with his deranged suicide pact.
/r/MensRights24/12/11 07:10 PM
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I don't understand the complaint....would you rather have had electronic "affirmative action" to make your character equally strong as the male characters, or had them make your female character realisticly weak? I have a feeling you would find a reason to complain either way.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 08:52 PM
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But, the court said, it would be “a form of social engineering” to take money from the wife and give it to the husband “merely because they went though the act of marriage in 1991″. Amazing how obvious this is when a man benefits, and how impossible it is to see when a woman benefits.
/r/MensRights07/12/11 02:43 AM
1

Instead of expecting all women to suddenly and drasticly changetheir communication methods to better suit you, it would be a lot more efficient to just learn to interpret their communications more effectively. In this case, the lack of message IS the message. It's always been this way, and always will be. There is an old saying "Often, women don't lie, men don't listen" - She's stating her intent clear as day, she's just saying it in Womanese. You've got to learn to speak womanese if you want to…
/r/seduction01/12/11 09:45 PM
1

It's the Stadium Dilemna - one guy stands up and he gets a better view...if everyone stands up, nobody has a better view and everyone becomes progressively less comfortable.
/r/seduction01/12/11 09:37 PM
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And only she has the option of the Morning After pill or abortion.
/r/MensRights01/12/11 07:53 PM
10

That isn't reverse discrimination. The reverse of discrimination is fairness. This is simply discrimination.
/r/MensRights01/12/11 02:18 PM
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It doesn't matter if he tells you about the vasectomy as long as he's honest about his intent not to have children. Otherwise, you're just angry due to your lack of ability to manipulate or control him.
/r/MensRights01/12/11 01:01 PM
1

Creep is only a slur for unnattractive men that want to have sex, it does not apply to attractive people.
/r/MensRights09/11/11 07:01 PM
2

?????????? Acknowledging that they have a slightly different biology that allows them to bear children is not misogyny. I love women, and have had a wonderful relationship with an amazing girl for many years. It's just that I love them for what they are, not for what people like to pretend they are....it works a lot better that way. There are men that are genuinely abusive or evil...a woman acknowledging this and taking steps to protect herself doesn't have to hate the other gender....neither do…
/r/MensRights05/11/11 02:54 AM
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Did you read the article (and study) that prompted this thread? It hardly matters if the Politically Correct think it's a "healthy view", it's an accurate one, and that's all that matters. I was once naive like you, and I learned the hard way because it straight up happened to me. It's something every man should be concerned with, you've got to wrap it up and protect yourself.
/r/MensRights04/11/11 09:14 PM
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because you believe that it is reasonable to assume that women just want to get your sperm for a baby and child support payments I don't know how good your reading comprehension is, but that is actually pretty much the opposite of what I said. Again, any woman can bang fat desperate losers at the bar every night till she gets pregnant, and collect from them. They're generally not doing this, they're instead attempting to control men better than they would otherwise deserve. I'm simply asserting …
/r/MensRights04/11/11 02:23 PM
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Is it misandrist when women describe common patterns of abuse towards women? This is simply an accurate description of the problems men face in modern society. Nowhere am I claiming men wouldn't do the same to claim better partners if their biology allowed it, but this is the practicality of our plumbing. Nobody is saying you have to like biology, but you do have to accept it.
/r/MensRights04/11/11 01:51 PM
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So life in prison for the crime of not getting another hit sitcom? I don't know if people have crunched the numbers, but he has to come up with a quarter million dollars a year for the privilege of eating out of a dumpster as a free man.
/r/MensRights04/11/11 01:43 PM
2

You may not like hearing this, but not being able to rope a guy better than they deserve is an amazingly effective form of birth control. Any woman can go to a bar and bang some some fat loser every night till she gets pregnant. But this isn't what they do, they use it as a tool to control men they aren't otherwise good enough to get commitments from. If they can't control their target, the evading Child Support usually isn't an issue because these kids don't get born. This is the ugly truth of …
/r/MensRights04/11/11 01:36 PM
1

What is misogynistic about protecting yourself from abuse?
/r/MensRights04/11/11 01:20 PM
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40% of kids in America are born out of wedlock...in other words, daddy didn't choose to have them. The number is dead on according births.
/r/MensRights04/11/11 01:07 PM
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You have to remember that no man will ever think he is ready for a family. Sometimes you have to push. This is insanity...the vast majority of men want families. This is purely the result of her self esteem issues....she has way more self esteem than is warranted, and she thinks she should get a better man than she deserves. There are plenty of men that would like to have a family with her, she just thinks she's too good for them.
/r/MensRights04/11/11 01:01 PM
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Some of it's legit, but I strongly disagree with his major premise. Many of the guys most helped by the Seduction industry were straight up good guys, intelligent, educated, hard working people, they were ALREADY good men, they just needed the social skills to attract women. This isn't to say that they shouldn't continue to improve other areas of themselves (which almost every system encourages anyway), but many are ALREADY good men by any reasonable standard, they just need the little social sk…
/r/MensRights31/10/11 12:38 AM
1

You can take a strong stand without starting a fight.
/r/seduction30/10/11 11:47 PM
1

I find myself thinking this a lot - they were looking at me to solve a problem they could have solved themselves. They were definitely uncomfortable with him, but didn't know what to do about someone so aggressive. They did know what to do...they appealed to a male protector. It isn't an accident that it's listed as a DHV spike. Like it or not, it's part of your job as a man to be the protector...better off embracing it (and the benefits that flow from it) than trying to apply logic to female be…
/r/seduction30/10/11 11:42 PM
1

I'm sorry, but that sounds highly unlikely to come from a GAL. And kidnapped children suffering from years of abuse and stockholm syndrome will often say whatever their abuser/brainwasher tells them. Assuming this email is even from the person it's claiming to be from.
/r/MensRights27/10/11 09:45 PM
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If think what they did was wrong...but if you don't want to be accused of making personal threats, perhaps you should not use "You have been targeted for termination" as your sig - it leaves you wide open for both misinterpretation and abuse. It's best not to start the fight by shooting yourself in the foot.
/r/MensRights22/10/11 10:38 PM
1

You have a serious limiting belief that is not in touch with reality. Girls do not want relationships after sex anymore than guys do. This faulty belief is going to hinder your game and understanding of women in general. Sentences one and two are dead on. Sentence two is a little exagerated, but still not a bad mindset to have. upvoted.
/r/seduction17/10/11 08:07 PM
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tl dr - The OP went on intensive campaign of study and self improvement for a YEAR. During this time he practiced extremely difficult "fire discipline" about making him scarce to the object of his desire, and at the end of it, he was able to recover his position with a girl that had clearly been attracted to him their first date. OP then declares the Friend Zone irrlevant, instead of crediting his hard work, discipline, or the wisdom of the community that showed him the way. Nobody ever said the…
/r/seduction17/10/11 07:52 PM
1

It sounds like you've almost answered you're on question - self medicating with alcohol seems to solve your problems pretty effectively, and many other effective medications (xanax etc.) are just going to have more side effects and dependence issues than alcohol.
/r/seduction17/10/11 07:23 PM
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Great analogy. Here is my version...would you CDgirl be as open to marrying a guy in a country where it was legal for him to beat his wife or murder her if he suspected cheating? A place where he would almost automaticly be awarded custody of the kids? In a place where these kinds of things were in fact extremely common in failing marriages (regardless of how nice the guy seemed at first)? Or would she say...wow, I love him, but I don't feel like subjecting myself to these barbaric laws?
/r/MensRights16/10/11 11:48 PM
2

You are dead wrong if you're talking about the real world behavior women in divorce court. The entitlement mentality alone would make them more vicious and conniving.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 11:38 PM
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1) You can get a prenup before getting married to a woman if you're that concerned about them screwing you over in divorce. Terrible advice. Do not depend on a prenup to protect you, you can still get hammered horribly. 2) If you don't trust a woman enough to marry her, then maybe you shouldn't be in a long-term committed relationship with that person. I don't even know what to say to this. Being trusting has not prevented millions of married men from getting horribly hammered in divorce court. …
/r/MensRights16/10/11 11:31 PM
1

But they sure you make you a shitty choice as a life partner. No marriage? No biokids? No legally enforceable shared parenting? You should be SCARED of a woman who would take that deal. Don't believe the hype. I have an amazing relationship with someone for many years under just the conditions you listed above. Develop yourself, improve your relationship skills, and amazing women will fall in love with you and live life on your terms PS - wouldn't adopt (but have children from a previous relatio…
/r/MensRights16/10/11 11:16 PM
1

A common misconception, Child support can certainly be half. Read up on the imputed income doctrine - If you forced to take lower paying job, or don't get overtime anymore, it can 80%, 100%, or even a 150% of your income. And they have debtors prison if you can't make payments.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 11:03 PM
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Some of this stuff is just absurd "One woman's ethnicity makes her too loud to be listened to." Your ethnicity doesn't "make" you do anything, thats just bigotry. If you're loud and obnoxious, people may shut you out, regardless of gender or ethnicity. "Another woman's fatness renders her too invisible to be listened to. " Attractive women are treated with many special privileges in this society. She wants to be treated like part of this special privileged class without making any of the sacrifi…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 03:02 PM
1

...says someone unfamiliar with the "no drop" policies many DAs offices with DV cases. And LOL at the woman being convicted on this. All she has to do is put the victim on trial and she has a damn good chance of walking. Do not attempt to common sense standards of evidence and logic to the handling of DV cases.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 05:38 PM
1

Even if he only gets a year, he's only making $0.30 an hour in prison while continuing to rack up CS debt. He will eventually be back again...and again...and again. Essentially a life sentence of alternating imprisonment, poverty and indentured servitude.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 04:56 PM
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One of the guys in favor of it was a fraud, but that doesn't mean the law is wrong. Yes, cocaine and crack are made from the same chemical. So is the alcohol in beer and whiskey. Every one of us has a friend who will act crazy when drinking whiskey, but not when drinking beer. I don't know how many coke users vs crackheads you've dealt with, but they're definitely different breeds of cat.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 04:33 PM
2

One of it's political statements was pointing out the dicrimination men face. I'ts pretty obviously pro male equal rights.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 04:10 PM
22

"Men with lower levels of testosterone are nicer, more social and less aggressive." Actually, men with low testosterone have been shown to be much crankier, miserable, and harder to deal with.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 04:07 PM
8

It's a win, but it looks like they backdoored some language that allows them to hose men weren't getting hosed before. "But family law attorneys are also hoping that the law will allow people divorcing from shorter marriages - people who previously would have received no alimony - to receive a brief period of payments, just enough to get them through the transition period after the divorce."
/r/MensRights27/09/11 03:58 PM
4

So true.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 03:57 PM
1

Some people can't handle the truth. They would rather believe pretty lies.
/r/seduction23/09/11 01:48 PM
6

Uhhhmm...he lives there. Sounds like a good reason to me.
/r/seduction23/09/11 01:24 PM
1

Damn, this D guy is good!
/r/seduction21/09/11 09:54 PM
1

I respectfully disagree. Talking has a much higher risk of fucking things up versus doing. Kino, kino, kino, get in a cool, fun one on one situation with her and make a bold physical move if she's reacting to your Kino.
/r/seduction21/09/11 09:39 PM
0

PublicStranger, welcome to the world of Pick Up. You're going to find LOT of people here that are in fact more expert on the topic than feminist academics. It's sort of like reading a study on irrational purchase decisions that people make, and then talking to an elite sales guy that makes 500k a year on his proven ability to make those decision happen.
/r/seduction21/09/11 09:26 PM
0

participants were asked to rate either their reported use or attraction to strategies such as “not letting up” when a women becomes defensive, picking on a woman’s appearance or behaviour, and letting a woman know she is not in control. Results confirmed the researchers’ prediction that males and females who both harbour more sexist attitudes and have unrestricted sociosexuality (the degree to which individuals require closeness and commitment prior to engaging in sex), were more likely to repor…
/r/seduction21/09/11 09:21 PM
1

PublicStranger, you're going to discover that a several people here are FAR more expert on this topic than the shmucks that did that study. Learn to listen to them and your journey will be far quicker.
/r/seduction21/09/11 09:16 PM
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Only because you've already fallen for the hype that it's commonly being spread thru "normal" heterosexual sex. The stats makes a lot more sense when you adjust your mind to the fact that it's mainly people who share needles or engage in LOTS of high risk activities with high risk people. This is not a slam on gay people, half of whom are also very low risk (the ones that don't engage in lots of high risk activity with high risk people....the lesbians).
/r/seduction21/09/11 08:50 PM
2

This is going a bit far. Sure their example was a man abusing a woman, but that shouldn't spark such outrage here. It's not as if they used 20 examples of men and none of women, they only used one. Men are held to the standard of Title IX - you MUST make room for the other side, regardless of circumstances. I don't have a problem holding others to the same standards we're held to.
/r/MensRights20/09/11 05:06 PM
1

Though I will say that routine sexual harassment, in any clothing, in any part of town, in any situation, on any given day, is something that I don't think most males have to face. Nor would they perceive it as harassment, just hearty freedom of expression.
/r/MensRights20/09/11 04:45 PM
5

They conveniently gloss over the #1 cause for non-payment of Child Support - Payments Set Higher Than Income.
/r/MensRights19/09/11 04:41 PM
3

I hope this doesn't end up stifling healthy debate.
/r/MensRights19/09/11 04:36 PM
3

And lol at them calling eyewitness testimony of an assault "hearsay".
/r/MensRights18/09/11 08:40 PM
2

Because she held his child hostage. He knew that if he ever raised a hand to defend himself, he might never see his child again.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 08:39 PM
10

Dean Lister the UFC fighter had a similar heartwrenching story. He basically ended up fleeing the the country to get away from his psycho ex wife.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 08:37 PM
1

"Dunn told Suskind that the problems began during the 2008 campaign. At one point she was viewing a television ad with other campaign officials and was shocked to see no women in the spot. “There isn’t a single woman in this ad,” Dunn said. “I was dumbfounded. It wasn’t like they were being deliberately sexist. It’s just there was no one offering a female perspective.” The ad was later reshot, with women included." Jesus Christ, not a single reference to whether or not the ad was effective, just…
/r/MensRights18/09/11 03:42 AM
0

If you're consistently intellectually "outgunned and outmaneuvered" by others in politics, perhaps you shouldn't be giving advice.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 03:40 AM
4

We're slowly but surely grinding our towards creating a new group od second class citizens.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 02:51 AM
0

It's a sad, sick and scary society where a heartfelt quote from one of the greatest statesmen of the 20th century, a plea for fairness, common decency and common sense is treated as some kind of joke. We have truly achieved George Orwell's vision of 1984, where War is Peace, Ignorance is Strength, and We Have Always Been at War With Oceania. Pro-tip - Martin Luther King wasn't being sarcastic when he said that, he actually believed in it as a goal. He did not believe that the only way to prove y…
/r/MensRights16/09/11 12:46 AM
1

You are just full of flat out false information aren't you? What part isn't true? I can confirm every one of those items I mentioned with 30 seconds of googling. Just because it's an uncomfortable truth for your worldview doesn't make it false. 95% of the money our government pays in contracts go to businesses owned and operated by white males. You're making the common error of assuming that the "privilege" that .1% of powerful men have applies to the rest, which simply isn't true. It's kyriarch…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 04:34 PM
0

My friend Anna (all names changed to protect privacy) is married to a man who feels it necessary to make random and unprompted comments about her weight. Well, if she gained weight, that is what prompted him.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 03:29 PM
2

The White Males are privileged...except when applying for college, applying for scolarships to pay for that college, applying for a job with that college degree, trying to get promoted at that job, or trying to get a fair shake at a government contract etc. etc. When I hear about asian kids outscoring whites academically in the US, I don't imagine a bizarre conspiracy devoted to create a biased system around "Asian Privilege". What leaps to mind are bunch of kids putting in the work, busting ass…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 02:21 PM
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but the defence argued that virtually every infanticide case in Canada has resulted in non-custodial punishment for women. The judge stated she was bound by this precedent. So if a law has been enforced in a blatantly discriminatory manner in the past, they would be required to continue to enforce it in a discrininatory manner?
/r/MensRights10/09/11 08:55 PM
2

I'm not defending her, I'm just pointing out that there's no reason for mensrights to piss and moan when if the roles were reversed, the people here would be cheering the guy on and patting him on the back for slapping her before she left him for another guy (possibly). I certainly wouldn't cheer him on. Would anyone else? Clearly unacceptable behavior.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 07:46 PM
3

Maybe someone isn't abusive but one day they hit a breaking point and lose that control. Does that suddenly make them abusive? Obviously yes. committing abuse makes you an abuser. Does a man who slaps his wife for the first time in their relationship because she cheats on him and is leaving him an abusive person? Yes. He may be low on the scale of abusers, but it's obviously abuse.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 07:44 PM
2

Call it what it is - she's a vicious, controlling Domestic Abuser. There is no indication that she'll grow up to be anything different. Someday one of her victim's will defend himself physically, and then be re-victimized by the system with imprisonment.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 07:16 PM
5

And WHY did she not just let the father have the child? Why the fuck was it necessary to give the baby up for adoption? Because she didn't want to pay Child Support to him for the next 20 years.
/r/MensRights09/09/11 02:38 PM
1

And if people can so easily get no-strings attached sex, and then never see the person again if they choose, why would they try for anything else? You're going to have to be worth calling back. Also, she laments that men no longer have to strive to "impress" her. How about you impress them?
/r/MensRights08/09/11 08:43 PM
1

Christianity is not a conspiracy...but there were conspiracy's within Christianity to do things like cover-up pedophile priests. Being a well known ideology does not make it impossible for groups following that ideology to have conspiracies.
/r/MensRights08/09/11 03:15 PM
8

Shameful and sickening.
/r/MensRights01/09/11 07:17 PM
1

The prime for Roissy (and his motley crew) was amazing and VERY influential.
/r/seduction26/08/11 03:37 PM
2

Was it opposite, or was it extreme?
/r/seduction26/08/11 03:31 PM
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upvoted to counter the downvote
/r/seduction26/08/11 03:28 PM
1

Everyone who comments on his blog is an imbecile. That's not accurate. They were mostly batshit crazy, with only an occassional imbecile. Still one of the best commentaries you'll ever read when it was having a good day. Very colorful cast of characters. He has an over-the-top rhetorical style that was designed to make you think by shocking you. Excellent therapy for anyone suffering excessive "nice-guy" syndrome. Think Robert Green's 48 Laws of Power (with a lot more "tongue in cheek" humor). I…
/r/seduction26/08/11 03:25 PM
0

If the "vast majority" don't have problems, why are 50% getting divorced?
/r/MensRights25/08/11 09:26 PM
2

I requested we speak with a mediator through DHS DO NOT go to the system, looking for fairness for a man. Her solution will include your ex getting all of it every time, and additional payments that absolutely dwarf it on a regular basis. I am working overtime as much as they have available at my job so I can afford it, This is a common trap many men fall into. They try to work as much overtime as they can for the new child, not realizing that they're held to it for life. In other words, if the …
/r/MensRights25/08/11 06:52 PM
2

I'm guessing it would be water to a fish to someone who was always a man. As a man, how often do attractive people of the opposite sex come up to you and try to initiate aconversation and get your phone number? This happens every day to attractive women, and they're actually rather shocked when they get older and start to become invisible. Being a beautiful woman can be like being some kind of mini-celebrity that everyone wants to meet.
/r/MensRights22/08/11 09:59 PM
4

I think he's taking it as a given that a man can/will walk if he wants to. Taking his advice give you the OPTION of keeping someone you like. He's off on some points, but the bulk of it is spot on.
/r/seduction21/08/11 11:21 PM
1

Well said.
/r/seduction21/08/11 10:26 PM
1

Yeah, it's bullshit. Double bullshit actually Japanese women, who typically work 40 hours a week in the office, then do, on average, another 30 hours of housework. Japanese businessmen are legendary for putting in 70+ hour weeks. Even if she was doing 30 hours of housework, she would still be putting in 3 less hours of work a week than him.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 01:56 PM
0

Also being fat is not a "bad quality" because some people are naturally fat. Some people are naturally stupid too, it doesn't make it good.
/r/seduction19/08/11 08:57 PM
1

Do people that study PUA really have worse LTR issues than regular people? Every WBAFC is having better LTRs by definition (having any relationship is more than zero). Most RAFC will be in similar situations And the guys that have a lot of options may be choosier, but that's not the same thing as being bad at LTRs, it's just a matter of not being interested in them at this point in your life. Game has only enhanced my own LTRs.
/r/seduction19/08/11 08:40 PM
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Yup, you're already starting behind the eightball because you're trying to game on facebook instead of having the balls to approach in person. It's one thing to be obviously delayed by something practical, it's quite another to be asking during your own free time, makes you sound like you're boring and lead a deadly dull life. Facebook /=/ real life
/r/seduction19/08/11 08:31 PM
1

I like it
/r/seduction19/08/11 08:28 PM
3

It's very simple. The skillset needed for meeting women and dating is a completely different skillset needed for keeping an LTR and marriage. Once you're married, it's a shame that you have to throw out all of your seduction skills and never use them again. But that's what you have to do. I absolutely disgree (and so does Athol Kay, who has an entire website designed to the application of Game principles to marriage). By far my most successuful relationships came when I CONTINUED to to seduce an…
/r/seduction19/08/11 08:18 PM
1

Sweet!
/r/seduction17/08/11 12:19 AM
1

A living legend!
/r/seduction17/08/11 12:19 AM
3

It can when the Child Support is actually Stealth Alimony.
/r/MensRights16/08/11 06:20 PM
1

How the heck is "be yourself" something he's never seen before? He's been himself his entire life. If "yourself" is not a charming, fun, confident person yet, you're going to have to take steps to become that person before "being yourself" will work.
/r/seduction14/08/11 11:09 PM
1

I read your link. She's a prostitute (not that a prostitute can't be raped, but it certainly puts her going into a building with a strange man in a different light). She also explicitly admits she was going there for money. "since I lived for some time on the street - I thought that if I would stay with him, I might feel protected and be taken care of, economically." The false rape claim is the "Customer Service Complaint" department of prostitution (see the Duke Rape case) - any prostitute that…
/r/MensRights14/08/11 04:55 PM
1

I studied inner game for all those years so it’s solid... It's not that solid if you can't approach.
/r/seduction12/08/11 04:37 PM
3

1 - Go to gym 2 - Improve diet 3 - Man up, nobody can give it to you, you have to make it happen yourself. You're going to have to make decision to change and iprove yourself, and it's not going to be easy. It's either that, or suffer horribly the rest of your life. Improve your body with the gym, improve you soul and social skills with the tools on the side bar. You'll get out what you put in. If you fail to improve your life, it's because you chose not to put in the work.
/r/seduction12/08/11 03:48 PM
1

A common theme in Seddit is that women are terrible at giving advice for men. I'm beginning to think the opposite is true as well. So long as you don't have that weird rule about having to make him ask you out instead of just asking him out yourself, here's what you do: Make them chase...this advice is a good for women as it is for men...probably better. This is hardly a "stupid rule" if your goals are more long term than short term. We make fun of women saying what they want, when we know what …
/r/seduction12/08/11 03:41 PM
0

They don't really need a "book" because it's so inherent in the culture and SO MANY magazines like Cosmo.
/r/seduction12/08/11 03:33 PM
1

I'm blown away. She specificly quotes the part where he states he is doing it raise awareness for family justice issues, and she immediately follows with - "A good way for Morelli to work through his anger?" Only womyn can raise awareness on issues, men can only express anger.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 05:54 PM
1

fake till you make it is priceless.
/r/seduction08/08/11 03:23 PM
1

If they're racist call them out for being racist in a humorous way. I don't know if you're catching the subtext, but the OP is the racist. He only considers the 2% of white chicks in his country as hot, and considers all the smoking hot South American chicks in Peru as 6s at best. Guess what bro, that hot Spanish chick think she's a 9 because she is. You can treat like a 6 if you want, but it'snot going to change your relative SMV. I realize everyone has therir preferences, but if you're automat…
/r/seduction07/08/11 08:33 PM
1

He said he liked her talk at the seminar and asked if she wanted to have some coffee. Not that out of line. A socially awkward herb with bad timing, but certainly not rude. Had George Clooney made the same offer, I think her response would have been a little less strident. She ended up in a giant flamewar war with Richard Dawkins, talking about how much she hated being objectified, and ended up calling for a boycott on his books. It turned out she had posed nude for a calendar - so much for hati…
/r/seduction07/08/11 08:04 PM
2

Why are people downvoting this man and his courageous stance?
/r/seduction07/08/11 07:55 PM
1

You had "The Talk" - mistake #1. Don't tell her, show her - be bold - make a move, she either reacts or she doesn't. Probably won't work after all the damage you've done to your position, but at least you've re-established yourself as a man that is physically attracted to her. Then you've got to have the balls to walk away...for real. Don't make it about the sex, make it about respect - I guarantee that she has been creeping into several forms of disrespectful behavior across your puppy dog year…
/r/seduction07/08/11 07:23 PM
1

I think you are a little unclear on the ethics and legalities here. If you put your hands on someone else in an innapropriate manner, and she slaps you, you can hardly call it unprovoked. It's not like she stabbed you, it's reasonable self defense. All a BarryCam would prove is Indecent Assault on your part.
/r/seduction06/08/11 04:17 PM
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I addressed this the lst time you asked this. I'm going to copypasta the exchange to save time [+]Thinks_Like_A_Man -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago (1 child) [–]Thinks_Like_A_Man -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago "Healthiness" has nothing to do with weight, but with your cardio fitness level. Are these people delusional or liars? World Series champion CC Sabathia, age 20, 6'7" 290 pounds and visibly overweight. James Toney Heavyweight Boxer, age 42, 257 pounds. Boxers are considered some of …
/r/MensRights05/08/11 02:34 PM
1

Did someone just accuse Babe Ruth of having a healthy lifestyle? You might want to to reconsider your argument. The man was known for his freakish appetites for food, liquor, tobacco and prostitutes and died at 53. Barkley at a muscular 6'7" is just right at 252. He got a little chunkier when he got older, but if you want to make him the poster boy for your "obese NBA players", you're making my point for me. Toney was far more effective when he was a much leaner middleweight and supermiddleweigh…
/r/MensRights03/08/11 09:57 PM
2

Exactly how I called it. BMI is horribly innacurate for measuring obesity in muscular athletes. It counts 30lbs of extra muscle in your arms and legs the same as 30lbs of fat around around your midsection.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 06:29 PM
2

Obesity tends to be inherited by the children. You can't blame anyone for wanting to spare their children that horrific curse.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 03:48 PM
3

Most NBA players are overweight or obese No they aren't, unless you're trying to manpipulate that stats by using an innaccurate method of calaculating obsesity the categorizes every muscular person as obese.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 03:42 PM
2

Very flawed experiment IMO. The fat girl who had the healthier lifestyle got one request Her lifestyle is demonstrably not that healthy if she's overweight. The logical conclusion for most people reading that would be to assume she was delusional, a liar, or a had a SEVERE eating disorder if she was still that big after doing all the things she claimed to.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 03:34 PM
2

It's not really a "Game" book at all, however it comes to a lot fo the same conclusions coming from a completely direction (mainstream psychiatry). It's on a PDF on Scribd.com if you want to give it a quick read.
/r/seduction01/08/11 12:09 PM
1

That's their spin on it, but this organization had lied to him and screwed him in the past, and he had zero reason to believe that they were going to use the meetings for anything other than generating new reasons for him not to be able to see his kids. This is not farfetched if you've seen some of these organizations at work. One father dropping his child off at his ex-wifes house had to push the outer screen door open because his 3 year old wasn't strong enough to do it on his own. He was arre…
/r/MensRights15/07/11 04:33 PM
2

Source?
/r/MensRights13/07/11 10:24 PM
1

Good idea by one of my more favorite posters here.
/r/seduction26/06/11 03:10 PM
1

This is a trap that's going to hurt your game (and life) seriously long term. The best piece of "inner game" I ever learned was how to love people that treated me great. Otherwise, you're going to be looking at the book "Why Men Marry Bitches" and wondering why you dumped that beautiful, intelligent woman that would have been the perfect wife and mother, and ended up with the ballbusting cunt you're with. What you're describing is a natural human reaction, but it's certainly not a healthy one. T…
/r/seduction26/06/11 03:07 PM
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If you read up on the topic, yes, these are child sex slaves being sold as prostitutes, and it's a common practice that's been going on in the region for a long time. The only wildly innacurate thing was that US tax dollars were being used for it. This was going on long b4 we got there, and will likely continue long after we're gone.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 10:54 PM
-1

If you read up on the topic, yes, these are child sex slaves being sold as prostitutes, and it's a common practice that's been going on in the region for a long time. The only wildly innacurate thing was that US tax dollars were being used for it. This was going on long b4 we got there, and will likely continue long after we're gone.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 10:54 PM
2

Yeah, they're a nutty as the feminists, but I think they're necessarry to counterbalance them. There has been SCARY legislation thrown around, and I'm glad someone is looking out for us.
/r/seduction06/06/11 12:19 AM
2

it ends with 'Style' finding a passionate love which puts the whole PUA culture to shame. It ends with the man he has transformed himself into meeting a beautiful rockstar woman he's happy with (as opposed to being a Forever Alone nerd surrounded by beautiful women he never gets to touch at rockstar parties). BTW - he was still with her when he published the book, what's he going to say - "I cynically manipulated her"? And sometimes real life IS shallow and depressing.
/r/seduction06/06/11 12:11 AM
1

Roissy has an Over-The-Top style that is sometimes necessarry in shocking your average "nice guy" into action.
/r/seduction06/06/11 12:02 AM
2

Seconding MariredManSex.com for applying game principle to LTRs.
/r/seduction06/06/11 12:01 AM
1

It is horrible...but depressingly effective. And this is a battle you're going to have to learn to win, because it's one of the number sources of misery for men in marriages and LTRs. One of the reasons you're having so much of a problem here is because this part of your game is weak. Time to toughen it up...the game only ends when u die.
/r/seduction05/06/11 11:56 PM
3

Great FR, great attitude! LIKE A BOSS!
/r/seduction05/06/11 10:04 PM
1

Nope, he should have been doing those things she wanted without being told, and the frames would have been about her trying to figure out how to please him.
/r/seduction05/06/11 09:43 PM
2

Great article Rob, thanks for posting. Tho I somewhay disagree - I love women, but I've learned to enjoy the process as well, and don't think is anything wrong with that. People can take it too far, but I think enjoying the whole process (including post-game analysis) can be a healthy thing.
/r/seduction20/05/11 04:24 PM
1

Yup. And you've always got to respect a woman's right to change her mind...even if it's to "yes".
/r/seduction17/05/11 01:04 AM
2

Good Day Sir!
/r/seduction16/05/11 11:22 PM
1

Was going to make a post, but Dresden did it better.
/r/seduction14/05/11 11:46 PM
1

really want to build strong relationships from it. As you said, PU is great for getting to know particular types of women at particular types of environments (mostly clubs/bars, but not always). A common misconception. These principles work very effectively on the vast majority of women. But the mindset, skills, tactics, and attitudes common in the PU >community are incompatible with very useful for monogamous LTRs. Once you understand how to properly apply them, game principles become some of y…
/r/seduction14/05/11 11:39 PM
1

In this context, I would say it's more likely that he is throwing gifts at her after she emotionally abuses him.
/r/seduction14/05/11 05:31 PM
2

Roissy is really useful in getting you into the proper mindset when you've stepped up your game and are getting amazing women that used to be way out of your league. You'll feel a terrible urge to start acting like a Mangina. Browse the archives and you'll suddenly start sprouting hair on your chest and acting like more of a man.
/r/seduction13/05/11 02:08 PM
1

It should be fairly obvious, but here is a point where he states it explicitly Therefore, my actions are helping to bring balance to the force. On the cosmic scales of justice the cads and the cockteases are locked in battle supreme for everlasting victory. I unsheath my sword with strength of purpose. On a scale of 1 to 5, 1 being tongue lightly grazing the cheek and 5 being tongue firmly pressed to side of mouth, this post was 2 tongue in cheeks. It's more of a rhetorical technique designed to…
/r/seduction13/05/11 02:04 PM
1

Roissy Maxim #15: Female cultural equality = male dating inequality. Female cultural inequality = male dating equality. You cannot have both. So sayeth human nature. If he needs women to be disadvantaged somehow in order to succeed with them, then his game is super weak. That's kind of his whole point there. Before, when men had higher social status, all you had to do was be a decent hardworking man and you had a good chance of getting a decent woman. Now that women aren't as dependent on men fi…
/r/seduction13/05/11 01:53 PM
2

I wonder if The Game in 50 years will be so sophisticated that our current state-of-the-art will look just as ignorant.
/r/seduction12/05/11 06:32 PM
11

I prefer to avoid lengthy phone converstions - it's hard to build attraction, and it's easy for her to find some excuse to disqualify you. The phone is a tool for you to setup the meet where u build attraction, not a tool to build attraction by itself.
/r/seduction12/05/11 06:28 PM
9

He is intending to be over-the-top, and it's very useful in shocking the "nice guys" into seeing there is another way of looking at the world. If it helps, think of it like Robert Green's "48 Rules of Power". And he himself has admitted a lot of it is toungue-in-cheek.
/r/seduction12/05/11 06:17 PM
6

I'm older than 99% of this board, and have lived more life than 99.9%. If you think my post is juvenile, I suggest you live life and re-read it till you start to understand it. I can describe these things because I've done them, many times, over the course of decades and I know exactly how it plays out and how it feels. And I hope I never stop falling in love.
/r/seduction12/05/11 02:32 AM
19

Very few relationships are between equals Even fewer will stay "equal" throughout the length of a 40 year marriage. Someone always cares more, or has more to lose at any given point. Anything else is just a mass media fiction we've been endlessly force-fed over the years. I've gotten much better at relationships as I've gotten older, and I've gotten pretty damn good at developing what can only be described as "worshipful devotion" from women that were way out of my league in my younger years. Bu…
/r/seduction12/05/11 12:50 AM
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This is exactly how you have to play it with people you care more about (until you have them completely in love with you). It does however take extraordinary discipline if you're truly in love.
/r/seduction11/05/11 11:59 PM
1

LOL - Upboated!
/r/seduction11/05/11 02:49 AM
1

Women don't think "going tanning" is sexy in a guy. They just think the results are.
/r/seduction26/04/11 11:35 PM
1

Tanning is a DLV...in many countries, but not in the US, where it is currently a stylish DHV. You can't conflate something that "ought" to be a DLV (because it is actually kind of stupid and dangerous) with what is actually a DLV in the environment you're playing in. I think motorcycles are stupid and dangerous...this doesn't make the women that like the dangerous bad boy persona riders project any less real, and it's silly of me to pretend otherwise.
/r/seduction26/04/11 11:33 PM
10

That's exactly NOT how it works. The stonger your Game, and the more attraction you've built, the more you can open up, and done properly it will only strengthen your relationship. Most of the people here critiquing the use of Game in relationships simply don't understand how Relationship Game feels or is supposed to work.
/r/seduction26/04/11 11:20 PM
4

The Game works amazingly well for LTRs, and weak game has murdered more relationships than anything else. Is your LTR working because you didn't Game, or because you had Gamed enough already that you had internalized the concepts, and it no longer felt like you were "running game"?
/r/seduction26/04/11 11:04 PM
1

First off, I question whetrher this is even legit, because if this attitude was common, this forum wouldn't even exist. It's either highly fictionalized, or extremely rare. That being said, why is it sick? I realize that women rarely like nice guys, but I would hardly label someone sick because they did. The world would probably be a better place for most guys if this attitude was common.
/r/seduction23/04/11 01:51 AM
1

And FYI - if a man chooses to have a child by a woman, he has an obligation to be faithful to their mother and treat her with respect. If the woman is some deranged narcissist that has his child without his consent, it doesn't reduce his obligation to the child, but it does reduce his obligation to the mother. Women who do this are commonly VERY sick and twisted people and you're ethicly allowed to say ANYTHING to her that allows you to continue to have a relationship with your child. It ain't c…
/r/seduction16/04/11 10:38 PM
1

"Yes, the man has a problem with fidelity. He has poor impulse control." Apparently the man is perfectly capable of fidelity and impulse control (see the new wife), he just didn't feel like being stuck with this psychotic hosebeast his entire life.
/r/seduction16/04/11 10:25 PM
1

LOL at the idea of this guy "deciding" to have kids with her. He had a substance abuse problem, she knew it, and cynically took advantage of his moments of weakness to attempt to control him (and not need to ever work again). And he seems to be doing a good job of being a father to his daughters, he's just not with their crazed narcissistic manipulative mother. And it doesn't even state that he broke up with her, only that they were broken up.
/r/seduction16/04/11 10:23 PM
3

?????? a 9 surrounded by nerds is probably inundated with compliments and fawning behavior. They may not be smooth or well calibrated, but I guarantee they're plentiful.
/r/seduction16/04/11 10:02 PM
1

If they offer you the best odds of keeping her happily in love with you, why wouldn't you? If she is really that special, it's going to suck to fail with her. BTW - There is whole website devoted to to applying PUA techniques in longterm relationships (MarriedManSex.com IIRC), with a lot of focus on balancing the alpha behaviors that keep her intrigued with you and the "beta" behavior needed to be a stable provider/family man.
/r/seduction12/04/11 02:30 AM
1

I used to be really into super-intelligent girls. Eventually I figured out that character is FAR more important than intelligence. Intelligent women overwhelmingly use their intelligence primarily to create elaborate justifications for their selfish/entitled behavior (if you don't believe me, look up the divorce rate, who usually initiates, and how much more likely college educated women are to initiate divorce than non-college educated women).
/r/seduction07/04/11 02:20 AM
1

However, a lot of the women I talk to always complain that there are no nice guys out there. What is their mentality out of this? It means that they don't appreciate nice guys (to the degree that they are damn near invisible), and always go after assholes that treat them like shit. In their world, there really aren't any nice guys.
/r/seduction16/03/11 01:06 AM
2

I'm glad to hear that.
/r/seduction11/03/11 04:06 PM
1

LOL have you seen SCA/SciFi Convention girls? He's boasting about banging 5s and below, and then trying to claim it's because he's not attracted to "dumb" girls. I'm sure he's Alpha for his scene, but it's a very weak scene talent wise.
/r/seduction11/03/11 02:10 AM
1

"This statement does not imply treating women great and simply making them happy. " Well then we're very different people, because when I banging someone, it tends to make them very happy :) If you decide you're happier and more compatible with someone else, and decide to just be friends with the first girl, there is no shame in your game. She had her chance, and not everyone in life gets every partner they ever wanted. I hardly see why this is less ethical for a man than a woman. And, as I stat…
/r/seduction10/03/11 12:58 AM
1

Or maybe just treating them great and making them happy. You're making a lot of assumptions about the character of someone using (fairly basic) social skills - women play variants on jealousy game all the time, it's fair play. And it's probably no more manipulative than a push up bra or high heels - something that makes men stupid and "bends us to their will".
/r/seduction07/03/11 06:27 AM
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You would be amazed at how applicable a lot of this is to maintaining long term healthy relationships (including marriages). A HUGE number of divorces happen when men slowly let themselves be BETA-ized in a relationship. See MarriedManSexLife.com for some good articles on it.
/r/seduction07/03/11 03:39 AM
2

Great technique...but this may be beyond the skill of the truly sticken one-itiser.
/r/seduction07/03/11 02:25 AM
1

I was thinking the same thing. "A good general finds a path to victory, the great general makes all paths lead to victory." It sounds like a good system that will either get you the girl, or cure your one-itis - either one is a win.
/r/seduction07/03/11 02:21 AM
1

Why? You're an amazing person and phenomenal in bed, she just needs a chance to find out. Her reasons for initially rejecting you (being a nice guy or whatever) are just as irrational as the jealousy game that eventually attracts her.
/r/seduction07/03/11 02:19 AM
1

Way more classy than most Friendzoned behavior. She is the one that chose to be Just Friends, why are her friends suddenly off limits? Why do they have to miss out?
/r/seduction07/03/11 02:14 AM
1

Agreed 100% but I'm not quite sure where you're going with this. Are you pre-supposing that Community people aren't having them? It's easy to get biased reading forums, because most like me learn enough game to get an amazing girlfriend that treats them like gold and simply drop out of the game (and forums) for years at a time (meaning you're not hearing much from guys that are happily in relationships). This happens even to the top guys all the time (Dave Wygant getting married etc.). The field…
/r/seduction05/03/11 04:27 AM
1

Great thread with a lot of mutual respect and thoughtful analysis not usually found on the internet.
/r/seduction05/03/11 01:10 AM
1

Seduction is the best place I've ever learned how to maintain a relationship. Since I got a handle on it, my relationships have been 10 times happier and healthier (for both sides). There is a HUGE amount of truth about human nature here, with many applications in a long term relationship (especially if you're essentially a good person that has a tendency to be too much of a nice guy). Many guys may choose to be players, but that doesn't mean there aren't LOTS of guys like me dropping out for ye…
/r/seduction05/03/11 01:05 AM
1

"Pick up" as used by these includes any interaction where you build attraction with someone, and explicitly includes dating, short term relationships, long term relationships and even marriage. You can't even have a marriage if you don't at some point build enough attraction and rapport to have a relationship. I think you're judging a lot of these guys unfairly.
/r/seduction05/03/11 12:53 AM
1

"Why do we have to refer to outside guys as "AFCs". The community places guys outside as weak and losers. Instead of seeing them as normal guys with anxiety we see them as less than us because they aren't involved in all this." The community recognizes and praises Naturals (guys with great natural game that were never part of the community) whenever appropriate. They frequently call people AFC because the A standards for average...anyone engaging in average behavior can be accurately labeled ave…
/r/seduction05/03/11 12:46 AM
1

"Our opinion is that a lot of people become dicks after discovering seddit... my housemate is a prime example... He can make out with 5 girls a night but he can't ever get a second date." If he can't get a second date, he is still TERRIBLE at PU, and it's hardly fair to judge the community by him. If this is 5 more make outs than he used to get, then it's a tremendous improvement and learning experience, and eventually he's going to put the pieced together.
/r/seduction05/03/11 12:31 AM
1

Anyplace good place to read up on this?
/r/seduction25/02/11 04:36 AM
1

Thanks for the reverse field report!
/r/seduction23/02/11 02:17 AM
1

Good FR, and I may be going against the grain here, but I thought your AMOG thing sounded suspiciously like cockblocking. If you're going to go in for a purpose (to enrich your own life), go ahead, steal his set. But if you're going in just to screw with someone else having a good time ....I just don't think it's a healthy pattern. And Karma is a bitch sometimes.
/r/seduction14/02/11 03:39 AM
1

DO NOT "Tell her how you feel" - SHOW her how you feel by making a move. Showing does everything telling does, only a hundred times stronger.
/r/seduction29/01/11 04:35 PM
1

This is a slippery slope towards supplication. More and more of the relationship revolves around doing all kinds of things for her so u can get something basic like regular sex. This tends to just get worse and worse and ends up with a broken marriage/family. I would tell her you would like to keep seeing her, but you think the both of you should be dating other people. Subtly make her realize that when she turns you down, you just end up getting your needs met elsewhere. She can either start tr…
/r/seduction25/01/11 08:47 PM
1

These problems tend to only get bigger for decades to come. It's a HUGE strain in many marriages - these kinds of imbalances are hugely toxic to long term relationships. You probably already painted yourself into a corner here, you shouldn't have committed to a monogamous relationship if she wasn't taking care of your needs. Realisticly, even if she doesn't want to have sex often, she should be blowing you enough to satisfy your needs. And you've probably already lost the Hand necessarry to make…
/r/seduction25/01/11 02:48 AM
2

From his blog - In this case, the "virus" is being your own man and learning to be happy without women. After going for two years without sex and learning to be happy without women I can safely say that I have the "virus". And when the day came that I did hook up, guess what, it wasn't even that special. In fact, it was on par with "jerking off". You know that your neediness is taken care of when the prospect of sex is no more exciting than jerking off." I don't think I want to follow this man's…
/r/seduction25/01/11 01:43 AM
1

Unless you're planning to rob her when you get to her place, why would you feel predatory? She is getting the same thing I am.
/r/seduction24/01/11 02:35 AM
2

I'll probably get a lot of flack for this, but don't be afraid to not drink if it doesn't fit your values/lifestyle. It does do some positive things as far as making you more social, but it comes at a significant price. Learning to play the game sober is tougher, but can be worth it.
/r/seduction21/01/11 09:59 PM
3

Most of these guys that "don't like make-up" are simply too unsophisticated to see the subtle make up they're responding to.
/r/seduction19/01/11 04:44 AM
2

Is he really being an asshole? He's just stating what he likes.
/r/seduction18/01/11 03:01 AM
1

"OkCupid’s math lords theorize that maybe men think they have a better chance with the more extremely rated woman, since there is something about her that is only attractive to some men, hence less competition. Maybe. Whatever the reason, the ultimate advice to single women: Embrace that unique trait. It’s what is going to get you the attention." Bingo
/r/seduction18/01/11 02:59 AM
1

The PUAFieldGuide PDF is free, well written, and a very good all around guide
/r/seduction18/01/11 02:55 AM
4

No disrespect intended, but one of the most common pieces of advice here is "hit the gym". It's very important for men, and even more important for women (because men are that much more visual). If you have trouble maintaining a perfect diet (like me), it's that much more important to keep your "workout program ahead of your diet". Frogma has adrressed your other issues.
/r/seduction18/01/11 12:43 AM
1

OKcupid did a study where they discovered that this was a myth, and while women SAID they hated it, those guys got way more responses. Add it to the long list of things women SAY they hate, but respond to in real life. I'll try to dig up a link. Edit- blackdevildisco beat me to it.
/r/seduction17/01/11 12:07 AM
1

NOBODY here liked it, we all simply had to recognize the truth as it was and deal with it. After you get good at it, it starts to become more fun, especially once you figure out how to be true to yourself, and have fun with it at the same time.
/r/seduction17/01/11 12:00 AM
1

I would NOT recomend a strip club for guys that are inexperienced and emotionally vulnerable. Far too easy for a manipulator to get her hooks into him, and leave him worse off than before. My present to Reddit - Stripper-Web.net (or something like that, I'm on a work computer and can't check it). It's sort of a Seddit for strippers on how to emotionally manipulate men into endlessly giving them money. Should be required reading for any man b4 he steps foot in one. Frightening!
/r/seduction16/01/11 11:43 PM
1

The game has definitely changed in the past 7-10 years - MUCH nicer, more polite, and easier. You younger sedditors have no idea, in the 80s and 90s, it was considered sport to say the most degrading and soul crushing things you could to guys that approached. Now such things are blessedly rare.
/r/seduction14/01/11 02:49 AM
0

It is my belief that most of the people with absurd standards for 10s have some kind of issue because they don't feel they DESERVE a 10. Once you believe you deserve the very best, it's easier to admit they're out there.
/r/seduction12/01/11 08:15 PM
1

"•10: Reserved for A-listers. (She can be found somewhere in a recent top 100 list, no air brush)" This doesn't make a lot of sense...there is nobody on a top 100 list that isn't airbrushed. And believe it or not, the majority of 10s aren't famous (outside of their area) and so wouldn't be able to get on a celeb list anyway. 10 represents a range, the same as 8 does....I have no problem giving 10 status to a top .001% chick. This means there are about 500,000 of them scattered around the world.
/r/seduction12/01/11 08:11 PM
2

Did we just get hit with an opinion opener?
/r/seduction12/01/11 07:03 AM
3

"Depends on whether you impress me or not. We might just end up being good friends."
/r/seduction11/01/11 01:26 AM
2

Agreed. With a one on one, any perceived flaw might just end things. In a group date, any percieved flaw by any one of her friends might end things. Plus it's weak as hell to accept that kind of disprespectful treatment. Should have cancelled out and told her you had something else you wanted to go to anyway. Nothing wrong with wowing the friends...after you've built a bigger cushion, and when you're meeting them under circumstances that are respectful and not deceptive.
/r/seduction05/01/11 03:37 AM
2

"… there was a whole clusterfuck of emotions rushing through me. Mostly anger aimed at myself, self-loathing anger." Well deserved.
/r/seduction05/01/11 03:08 AM
1

Before someone gets themselves hurt, let me point out that this is absolutely not accurate. It may have the best affinity for those places, but you can get get either one in any part of your body, it's just less common.
/r/seduction03/01/11 12:35 AM
0

Hey, if you're happily married at 41, and still getting threeways, there must be something to the method.
/r/seduction29/12/10 03:37 AM
3

Good stuff by the Mayson Man.
/r/seduction29/12/10 02:00 AM
1

A little older guy perspective - I don't know if you arrived at it independently, but this concept (and the reasoning behind it) are almost verbatim from one of the older pick up systems from 15 years ago (DocLove). I used it for years, and it wasn't bad back in the day (when life itself worked at a slower pace). But this was before text messaging (or even the common use of cellphones). I've since switched to something more similar to the Cheddar Method, and it's much better suited to the faster…
/r/seduction29/12/10 01:36 AM
1

You can be opposed to a lot of what is called "feminism" and still love women.
/r/seduction25/12/10 01:18 AM
2

Congrats!
/r/seduction23/12/10 12:40 AM
2

You didn't have the courtesy to take care of him when he needed it, and yet you're surprised and hurt when he treats you the same. Entitled much?
/r/seduction22/12/10 10:35 PM
1

Except that you are blaming the victim.
/r/seduction22/12/10 10:30 PM
1

"What did I do to deserve that" is the mindset that traps and controls so many victims. How about the person that perpetrates the assault takes repsonsibility for their actions. Blaming the victim in situations like these is rarely productive.
/r/seduction14/12/10 02:31 AM
1

Again...She is the one that attacked him - SHE is the abuser here, he is simply refusing to cave into the common domestic abuse frame that he deserved the abuse, and is insisting that she take responisiblilty for her assault.
/r/seduction13/12/10 06:27 PM
2

Gender bias much? "Might work in an existing, abusive relationship. Not going to get you anywhere with someone new." I saw these types of comments on the youtube section too, and it blew me away...SHE IS THE ONE THAT ASSAULTED HIM! She IS the abuser! She IS the one that is SUPPOSED to be apologizing for assaulting him. It takes a very twisted mindset to assume that a victim making someone take responsibility for their assault is an abuser simply because he's a man and she's a woman. Am I the onl…
/r/seduction13/12/10 06:20 PM
1

One of my friends, an elite player with over 200 notches on his belt still lives at home with his mom in his mid thirties. I asked him how the hell he did it. He said "Hey, any girl that wants to get with me better have her own place!". He got laid off last year, so now he is a nerdy looking unemployed guy living with his mom...and he's still getting more ass than a toilet seat.
/r/seduction12/12/10 12:27 AM
1

I would use some variation on "It's complicated". Girls eat up that kind of drama. And your sex appeal will definitely go down if realizes that you're completely single. Make her feel the need to compete...she'll appreciate you more if she does become your primary.
/r/seduction05/12/10 10:51 PM
2

LOL, good catch.
/r/seduction04/12/10 10:49 PM
1

web.archive.org will usually have a copy of everything ever openly published on the net. Pretty darn useful sometimes.
/r/seduction04/12/10 10:44 PM
6

"why do women like facebook?" Because women love attention and it feeds their ego. You might as well ask men why they like blowjobs.
/r/seduction04/12/10 10:05 PM
2

Seddit is full of "shitty feminists" that had to give up their ideals :) We all just end up going with what works. Can u elaborate on exactly how you ended up with a net gain in dating by doing zero approaches? I would have thought you would have gotten the same number of passive approaches, and then gained a few borderline/shy guys. You wouldn't have quite the same momentum with them because you would be chasing, but you could quickly use the usual Seddit tactics to change that around if there …
/r/seduction30/11/10 03:15 AM
2

I would just do an Overview of someone like Intjpua, and read all his posts going back about 3 months. I've read some of his 6month+ stuff, and it wasn't nearly as developed - The guy has obviously had some major personal growth in a short period of time, which is very inspirational. I might do CheddarChexMix next, his stuff is always solid.
/r/seduction27/11/10 11:56 PM
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