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Manners never go out of style. Even when women ask me out, I never expect them to pay for me. In fact, most men don't. Only women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:25 PM

Okay, thanks for your unsolicited advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:22 PM
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So what percentage of women would you say want to be provided for by a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:53 PM
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But as you not a women yourself, you have no idea Well, i date women and talk to men who date women so I have a pretty good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:08 PM
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Well, if both people in a relationship are just looking out for their own interests and only interested in what they can get from the other person then that's not a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:07 PM
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Trad women and modern women are the same. Both are just looking to get resources from men. It's just that trad women are willing to play the role of being submissive and all that. But both are just looking out for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:34 PM
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My point is most relationships are transactional where people are just using each other. With women it's much more obvious with their obsession with getting resources from men. Even paying for their own meals on dates is a dealbreaker for many (probably most) women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:29 PM
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and assume everyone else is the same as you. Well, no. Everyone isn't the same as me, and that's part of the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:26 PM
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No, many women actually do want a provider. I'm not sure what the point of pretending such women dont exist is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:25 PM
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your view is skewed and juvenile. Like which part, for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:24 PM
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Your way of thinking is simping. You didn't actually read the post or understand it. The post is a description of the average relationship, not my approach to them. Isn't that obvious from reading it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:22 PM
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I'm not convincing anyone of anything. I'm simply saying what the reality is in relationships. I literally don't care if women are not submissive. Your comment tells me you didn't actually understand what you read.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:19 PM
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Yes, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:33 AM
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The answer is: if the intended audience understands the style of communication you are using, then it is effective and therefore perfectly reasonable. I So you think it's intelligent for women to just signal that they don't like something instead of just saying it like an adult? Natives here understand their own communication style. And yet men feel like women aren't interested in them if they don't pay... This is a strange question. No, it isn't. The roles you're describing started when women h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:33 AM
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The part you highlighted is literally about using the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:24 AM
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A relationship based on using each for resources or sex or whatever, is not genuine. Nothing you say is going to change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:22 AM
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It seems like you definitely don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:17 AM
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Women are less likely to say no to things and are more likely to use signaling behavior. Is this intelligent behaviour for adults to engage in? gender roles are more entrenched in conservative areas even among secular or liberal men and women. Do you think these gender roles started when women had equal rights? But you know this is what many conservatives think. Do the women in such states ever use their own intelligence and make their own decisions on how to act and how to engage in relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:16 AM
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What does this have to do with whether or not a relationship is genuine? What does people in a relationship using each other for their own gain have to do with the relationship not being genuine? Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:12 AM
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Are some relationships like that? Yes of course What percentage do you think is like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:11 AM
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it’s because they assumed an interested woman wouldn’t try so hard to pay. Why do you think a woman's interest would be based on whether she pays for food she ate or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:02 AM
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men have told me when I don’t let them pay in the first date they assume I’m not interested. Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:56 AM
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and after the first few dates I always tried to split the check with men. Why not try from the beginning?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:53 AM
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It’s 2025, everyone’s working, women don’t “need” a man to provide anymore Sure, but they still want a provider. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:52 AM
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Sure, okay 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:11 PM
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Saying woman dont use men is delusional. Who said this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:43 AM
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I highly recommend you look into how he treated them. He also said "Most women are barely sentient", but I guess it's possible to be both the prize and barely sentient 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:30 AM
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If men were the prize, wouldn’t women have to jump through the hoops to win the prize? That's the point. Men don't know they are the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:28 AM
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Well, they were raised by women so...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:39 PM
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Point being they'd rather not do it for themselves and use someone else and call it "love".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:36 PM
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They don't really think that. You think someone like Andrew Tate thinks women are the prize? He'll pretend like they are just to get them to "work" for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:34 PM
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Because they've been conditioned to be simps, hence my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:38 PM
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why do men pay for women on dates? Because they know if they don't, there's no second date. but it’s rarely ever the woman paying for the man. i wonder why… Because women only care about themselves. You're literally proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:09 PM
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Yes, but they still choose to get a man to provide them...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:06 PM
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Because they are brainwashed simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:05 PM
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How did that work out for him? He ended up being free to look for another woman. Arrogance and a refusal to pursue in a man in a huge turn off. Why would a man who is the prize pursue some woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:05 PM
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No they don't. Yes they do, hence the double standards. Women get turned off and laugh at men who refer to themselves in such a way. Men don't need to refer themselves in such a way. They just have to know they are the prize and act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:01 PM
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It's not gay to be realistic about what men and women bring to the table. Even women know men are the prize based on their expectations of men which they don't have for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:54 PM
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Saying men are the prize. In what way am I wrong though? Even women's expectations of men tells me that they know men are the prize, which is why they don't have those expectations of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:50 PM
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It's because men are simps and don't know that they're actually the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:47 PM
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If you dont bring anything to the table you shouldn't be trying to date This is something you should tell women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:30 PM
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Right, but I'm not saying that I'm personally the prize (even though I am). I'm speaking about men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:29 PM
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True, and i don't date people i don't like either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:27 PM
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Because they're simps who don't know that they're actually the prize, hence the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:34 AM
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Human men and women are animals, just like other animals. Well, maybe you're an animal but I'm not. I have a higher level of consciousness that allows me to act consciously, not like an animal. Men are generally the ones that initiate and pursue women, Men still on the level of animals, yes. But not intelligent men. Also men tend to like the 'pursuer' role and women tend to like the feeling of being 'pursued' Dumb men and women, yes. He can't have children without a woman, unless he pays for an …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:28 AM
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most women i know bring money for their own food even if they expect a man to pay. The point is they still expect a man to pay and if he doesn't, their interest goes out the window. it's not relationship If a woman is parasitic on the first date, she'll be parasitic in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:24 AM
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Most women are not with their partners because of their money and are attracted to other things The money is the foundation and the other things come after the money is provided. and being attracted to someone for their resources doesn't make them the prize. It kinda does. Without the other person's resources, what are you? Men are attracted to women for sex, affection, company, validation, etc all the time. Those are all resources Those are all things a man can literally pay for, and most do ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:21 AM
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same thing You don't really believe that. Women don't even bring money to pay for their own food on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:15 AM
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What do men bring to the table? Money, resources, intelligence, humour, conversation skills and empathy. What do women bring?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:10 AM
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and don't technically need men for that. And yet money is still the foundation of their attraction to men... as humans we're all equally the price Not according to the vast majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:09 AM
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Unfortunately, being gay isn't a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:08 AM
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Do I really have to spell out the point i was making because it went over your head the first time? Yes, please do. Men think that their personal experience trumps all available evidence. No, all I'm saying is men are actually the prize when we look at things equally and objectively, and not treating women differently because they have boobs, which many men do. 'Yes but the 6 men I know are good drivers, so this can't be true' But we're not talking about driving.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:07 AM
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This shit ain't a party where you hit a piñata hoping something falls out That's called marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:58 AM
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I did though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:56 AM
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This is something you should tell women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:55 AM
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men with this mentality are beyond stupid. Well, you got into a relationship with one so... In EVERY single species of mammal (aside from 3) male animals are the ones courting and pursuing the female animals. Women are much more in demand than men and men are more desperate to be with women than women are to be with men. Well, i don't know about the men you date but I am not an animal and I don't live my life like one. Women also tend to be more empathic, self aware and emotionally intelligent t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:54 AM
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The vast majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:52 AM
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If you want a SAHM, then you’re better off with more resources. I don't even want kids... So if you want to be liked for being reasonable by a reasonable woman, then generally that means being wealthier. "If you want to be liked by a reasonable woman that means having money" 😂 Though, there are exceptions and you have to avoid gold diggers. You literally described gold diggers 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:51 AM
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Women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:46 AM
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I'm not speaking about what's more socially acceptable, Well, what's socially acceptable will be more socially prevalent so...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:46 AM
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Well, your ex sounds like an idiot. I've literally never listened to any "manosphere" content. The post is my own ideas based on seeing women's behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:45 AM
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This delusional thinking ended my last relationship. So your last relationship ended because the man knew he was the prize? Somehow I doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:41 AM
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There are share standards And people who see themselves as the default prize (women) tend to have these absurd standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:40 AM
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What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:38 AM
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And what do you want to men to do differently given that men are the “prize”? Nothing, that's the point. Since they are the prize they need to stop catering to women and trying to impress them through money and resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:37 AM
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Who makes them feel this way? Women. What are the hoops? Catering to women, stroking their egos, paying for dates and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:36 AM
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Only a loser would see themselves that way. Women see themselves that way...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:35 AM
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In reality, both men and women bring something to the table Sure, but are you really gonna pretend like the standards applied to men are also applied to women? In reality, both men and women bring something to the table In reality women don't really have to bring much to the table beyond their bodies, and this has actually had a negative impact on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:34 AM
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Sure. But the point of the post isn't about avoiding such people but pointing out that they exist and there are many of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:28 AM
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Not really. Objectively speaking, it's more socially acceptable for women to see themselves as the prize and to act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:25 AM
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They feel they have to pay for dates otherwise women won't like them and they usually jump through all kinds of hoops to get women's sustained attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:24 AM
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These are generally women. No man would genuinely call himself the prize without expecting pushback.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:23 AM
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Not to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:22 AM
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It's not meant to be taken literally 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:22 AM
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Sure, but that doesn't change the point being made. It just means that men have been sufficiently manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:21 AM
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But I will still not double text, chase Yeah, you would unless you don't genuinely like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:24 AM

And I'm not interested in dating a man who can't provide any of that for himself. A man letting you pay for your food like an adult doesn't mean he can't pay his own bills. What are you talking about? 😂 Just say you're not actually interested in men but in their resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:12 AM

So why are you concerned about a man's money if you as an adult make your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:02 AM

I do care about money because I'm an adult and keeping a roof over my head, food in the fridge, and the lights on cost money. So make your own money?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:58 PM

I've had multiple men in this thread tell me I'll end up alone because I want a man who pays for the first date. It's too funny! I doubt anyone said that since most men know that women only care about money and so they all just pay by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:53 PM

You very much want them but can't meet their requirements. If this were the case then I would just pay like every other guy does... Posts like this are nothing more than a pathetic attempt to try and "change the behavior" of those attractive women so that they will agree to go with you on the cheap. No, going dutch on dates doesn't change women's behaviour. It helps me weed out the entitled parasites. you hope to get women to give you free sex. As opposed to paid sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:51 PM

Joe blow on a date (which he initiated)with a 9/10 If a 9/10 is on a date with Joe Blow, that means she finds him attractive, unless she's there for free food, in which case going dutch comes up again. I don't treat women differently based on their physical appearance. Isnt that what women want? Or do you want men to treat you differently according to how you look?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:47 PM

That's what redpill is trying to convince men that women are like. No, that's what the majority of women are like. It's rare to meet one who doesn't have a parasitic mentality and entitlement. I would say over 80% of men do, Do you think it's because they are so kind and selfless? pay for myself So you letting a man pay for you is a sign that you like him? 😂 but just like my husband pulls out women's chairs and stands when they stand, he is just a gentleman. That's definitely a simp. Imagine sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 07:32 AM

Do you feel good about yourself? I'm simply describing how the average woman is. But please, tell us how often women want to go on a second datevwith you. The implication here is ofcourse if you don't pay, there's no second date. sad pathetic men who go to bed alone call him a simp. Well, based on what you said about how he insisted on always paying and all that stuff, that's simp behaviour. Nothing personal. No one wants your money. We live in a world where there are women who literally go on d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 07:20 AM

Maybe you found the highest bidder 🤷‍♂️ Naturally you can't marry all the guys that allow you to use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 06:29 AM

There's no need to bother trying to impress anyone. You're either impressive or you aren't. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:42 AM

There's no need to bother trying to impress women if you know they're just people, and most of them aren't even good people 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:13 AM
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Ofcourse. Why would you not pretend that a man who pays for everything is a gentleman? It incentivises him to keep being used and enjoy it. If he didn't pay, you wouldn't be with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:27 AM
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and when I told him why I wanted to pay for myself, he said, "I would never pressure you." Then he paid. He never let me buy anything even though I made more than him at the time. He would always pay for dinner Kinda sounds like a simp... Deep down he was probably afraid that if he didn't pay, it's over because that's how most women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 02:46 AM
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Ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:15 AM
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That's so nice of you. Thanks 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:41 AM
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The average dusty pays so women will like him 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:41 AM
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Expecting men to pay on dates does not make a woman a "parasite". It does. A parasite takes without giving anything back. That's the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:39 AM
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If a man asked me to go Dutch, I'd assume they weren't interested. If a woman's feelings towards me change because she has to pay for food that goes into her mouth I feel glad that I've weeded out a psychological child and a parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:37 AM
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I don't need women to try to impress me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:34 AM
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lol I'm sure you'd totally ask the most beautiful super model actress or whoever you like to pay for dinner. BS I don't treat women differently just because they're hot. I've even ended relationships with women i found really cute because of their mentality. 'd be trying to impress and paying. Lies on top of lies I have never tried to impress a woman. I don't need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:31 AM
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You would never ask your dream woman to go Dutch. I would because my dream woman's feelings towards me won't be dependent on payment. Also, my dream woman won't be a parasite, and going Dutch helps me find out if she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:21 AM
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but I would like if they paid. Do you think women are the only people who would like it if someone paid for their food??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:13 PM
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Yes that’s not a mental health diagnosis lol. No shit. It's a reflection of a psychological hangup.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:03 PM
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Did you not say a woman paying for her own food is a turn off for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:57 PM
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They expect it because they're gonna cook and clean for you, They don't know all this on the first few dates. Also, a woman expecting me to pay for her because in the future she might cook for me is idiotic. be loyal, modest, and submissive I want a human partner, not a dog. And have boobs (and will let you touch them often). This is a simp way of looking at it. "Pay for her food and she'll let you touch her boobs" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:56 PM
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the happily married are the ones with psychological issues. You think being married means you dont have psychological issues? 😂 You literally just described how you have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:53 PM
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I like how you Swiftly ignored that men also date abusive women Well, i didn't claim that men can figure out a woman by looking at their tinder profile like you did. everyone was a beggar in some way…. The difference is women choose to be beggars, after years of having no choice but to depend on men financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:52 PM
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It’s a turn off to me if a woman wants to go Dutch or pay. Then you clearly have some internal issues. A woman choosing to pay for her own meals shouldn't have such an effect on you. It says something about your psychological state.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:49 PM
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if one dinner is this much of a concern for a guy he shouldn’t be out dating he should be out earning. If paying for her own meals is this much of a concern, a woman shouldn't be out dating, she should be working. This is actually much more logical and reasonable than the simp shit you wrote. And insecure dudes shouldn’t be dating. Insecure men are the ones who pay out of desperation and a desire for validation from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:46 PM
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that's it? Sounds simple, and yet most women can't even meet that criteria. It's like they're inherently parasitic and entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:36 PM
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what people should do to attract you? Not be an entitled parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:32 PM
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Then why did you make this post? Read it and find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:29 PM
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Why use food to attract men What idiot uses food to attract anyone? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:28 PM
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If they like abusive men then let them date them…. What an intelligent thing to say. Dating and paying for dates is the modern world problems Yes, because in the past women literally couldn't pay for their own food. And now they choose to be beggars. That's so sad and pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:27 PM
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I think that her being willing to accept a modest first date demonstrates enough to me that she is not a parasite Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:26 PM
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Why use money to impress women? That only attracts parasites.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:23 PM
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my personal opinion is if you’re this hung up over paying for a meal which is like 10-30 bucks max, then maybe you need to get your financial situation together before considering dating This actually applies to the parasitic women described in the post. Where is you self awareness? If you paying for food you eat is a dealbreaker, there is something wrong with you. lot of men don’t mind paying Do you know why? It's because they know women have a price. Also, I don't compete for women, that's idi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:22 PM
1

Women already weed out these men by never swiping on them What? They can see the picture on dating app and make a decision on how he will process dates/outings/meetups…. They also make quick judgement on what kind of a lover he will be… And yet many of them end up in abusive relationships...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:18 PM
-2

Does this mean that men who want kids are parasites unless they compensate the woman who is carrying them? So in your mind, paying for food you eat and having children are the same? Are your friends parasitic if they don’t pay you back for buying a beer? You really don't see the difference between buying drinks for friends and going on a date with someone you're just getting to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:18 PM
2

That way the man shows that he is not stingy and that he can be generous I prefer that a woman show me that she isn't a parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:16 PM
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As long as you have discussed it before the date and don't surprise them with the "you pay for your meal" when it is time to pay - then it is ok. In the world of adults, it should be expected that you will have to pay for your own meals when you hang out with someone else. It's called being considerate. If they insist on paying, fine but you shouldn't need to be told that you will pay for food that goes into your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:15 PM
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but some of them are genuinely traditional women who are gonna be better partners in every other way compared to women who want modern relationships and are willing to split the bill. I doubt this. There's no way someone who expects you to pay for their food because they have boobs will be a great partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:13 PM
1

Now how do women weed out parasitic men? I don't really care. That's for you as a woman to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:06 PM
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You can use money to show off, or to try to please her or whatever. Why? when you try to "test" them by trowing in her face how you'll not spend a penny on her. Letting an adult pay for their food isn't a "test". It's what adults do but clearly most women are psychological children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:04 PM
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A lot of dudes here seem to be constantly up in arms about paying for dates. Alot of women seem to be up in arms about paying for food they eat. Very strange. It's almost like they're entitled children...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:01 PM
3

if a guy offers to take you out to dinner he should pay. Or just turn down the date if paying for your own food is too much for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:00 PM
1

OP sounds stingy You think expecting men to pay for your food isn't stingy? Do you have any ability to self reflect?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:57 PM
1

I’m saying at a certain point the person you’re with is showing that they have no interest in doing nice things for you. Yes, that person is usually the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:17 PM
1

This is exactly why going dutch is best. To weed out women with her mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:05 PM
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You refuse to do something nice for the person you’re going on a date with at a certain point. Who the fuck wants to be in a situation like that? Women's self centeredness is really amazing. You refuse to pay for your own food, and yet a guy who treats you as an equal is the problem 🤦 Who wants to be treated like that? Who wants to be with a woman whose feelings towards him are dependent on payment?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:04 PM
3

What's hilarious is there are actually women who go on dates for free food. It's both hilarious and sad for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:57 PM
2

And now you know why you’re single and can’t get dates I'm single because I enjoy it and I have no trouble getting dates. If I did, I'd be desperate enough to allow women to use me for free food.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:55 PM
2

What is the purpose of this post? Read it and find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:44 PM
7

Gee whiz man, let women pay for their own meals. They're adults with jobs. Edit: I guess whoever downvoted this doesn't think women are adults. Interesting 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:28 PM
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But you also won’t have much dating success, if any as an average guy. Being with a parasite that you have to pay for isn't success.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:14 PM
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The only men who get used are unattractive men. All men get used if they're are not aware of how women operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:13 PM
2

If I don’t like him as a person why would I waste my time with him? That's a question you gotta ask other women. Some literally go on dates for free food...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:49 AM
2

So be likeable then? I hadn't thought of that. Thanks for the suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 12:55 AM
1

so now go work on being part of that group of guys they are attracted to. Just using basic intelligence, does me writing what i wrote in the post not tell you that I'm already aware of things I wrote and therefore act accordingly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 03:41 AM
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I know many people who have that as a rule when dating, men and women. A rule you have for yourself is just a preference because rules are meaningless if there's no external enforcement of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:32 PM
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I think you get the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:30 PM
1

I don't know what the point of the post is. You don't have to know what the point of everything is. There is nothing to debate about the fact that people don't get everything they "want" or prefer in romantic partners. That's not even the point being made. Maybe this is why you don't know what the point of the post is. You should try rereading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:59 PM
0

That is a preference, not a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:58 PM
0

That's a preference, not a rule 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:57 PM
-3

Most men are actually easily manipulated by women. Those are simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:48 PM
1

Unless you're really dense or obtuse, you know what the point of the post is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:47 PM

Like I said in response to another comment by an npc who said the same thing: You say this, and yet if most men understood what I wrote in the post they wouldn't be such simps who get easily manipulated by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:36 PM

I know a lot of men and women who have rules for dating. Then I guess you know a few robots...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:34 PM
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You say this, and yet if most men understood what I wrote in the post they wouldn't be such simps who get easily manipulated by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:30 PM
-1

Why would you take the title literally? That makes no sense 😂 Only a robot would have literal rules for dating. Are women robots? Is that why you couldn't see that the title is meant to be taken literally?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:29 PM
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Yes, the title of the post isn't literal. Most people don't actually have literal rules they follow when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:26 PM
1

Many women agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:10 AM
1

You basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 02:08 AM
1

Okay, let's just pretend that women like that don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:51 PM
1

No, dudes like you deny that men are primarily out for sex, and that they are way hornier and indiscriminate You say men are primarily out for sex and yet you go on dates with them for free food...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:23 AM
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No I'm arguing that most women are primarily attracted by other things The foundation of their attraction is resources and money. Women themselves acknowledge this because they lack self-awareness, so they think being parasitic makes them feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:13 AM
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It also weeds out dudes like you Dudes like me are the ones who are actually interested in more than just sex and are intelligent enough not to cater to parasites. If you think paying for dinner gets you sex, I anticipate that you will be charged with rape soon You're not understanding what is being said. Either you're being disingenuous or you're just slow. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:12 AM
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It’s more than lazy dudes looking for easy sex want to put in No, it isn't. You don't really know much about men. Paying for women's food in exchange for sex is just socially acceptable prostitution so most guys don't actually mind paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:21 AM
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You can exchange sex for other things, and it is not prostitution Yes, it is. It just means you're a less intelligent prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:19 AM
1

So in exchange for sex women want free food? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:19 AM
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The effort is the point, not the food Paying for some parasitic woman's meal requires no effort. Most men know women have the mentality of prostitutes so they don't mind paying in exchange for the chance to have sex. You guys literally prostitute yourselves for free food. That's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:52 AM
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You can pretend like most women aren't like that to some degree if you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:51 AM
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Men are very ok with transactional sex, Yes, that's why they see prostitutes but that doesn't mean you have to become one under the guise of a date or a relationship 🤦 Transactional sex is literally called prostitution. And there's nothing wrong with being a prostitute but just dont pretend like you aren't one if you're gonna make sex transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:48 AM
1

What do you think a date is?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:47 AM
0

And so you use sex as some form of payment?😂 That's so embarrassing for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:10 AM
1

Be honest, going on a date hoping for sex is much more rational than doing it for free food.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:09 AM
0

Getting to know the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:09 AM
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It's rare for men in general. Women generally have some materialistic and self centered motive when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:16 AM
1

What is?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:15 AM
1

And some men go on dates purely to fuck. This is much more sensible than spending time with a man you dont even like for free food like a bum.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:14 AM
1

And yet women will literally go on dates purely for the free food...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:35 AM
1

Is it the norm for men to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:34 AM
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We pay in sex, companionship, service, babies, etc What a terrible way to approach a relationship with another human being. Sex isn't a favour you do men. It's meant to be mutual. If you're having sex with someone as a form if payment, you may as well break up with them. No man with self respect wants to sleep with someone who sees sex as payment. Men also provide companionship and you can't have babies without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:33 AM
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Like I said, keep simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:39 PM
0

What does this even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:06 PM
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This is a dumb comment. There are women who literally go on dates with men for free food. They don't care if you're rich. All they want is free food, but keep simping, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:05 PM
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At least I spent my youth out there getting laid so I can spend my Middle Ages What do you think this is, the 6th century? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:50 PM
-1

Sounds like you should spend less time online.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:26 PM
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You're just cling parasitic and unintelligent behaviour "optimisation" to avoid facing the truth. This is why women haven't been taken seriously historically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:36 AM
1

So, in your world, dating a man for free food and resources is behaving intelligently?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:00 AM
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Well, it does because men don't date women for resources and free food while it's the norm for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:48 AM
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Is 20% VERY RARE? 20% is your estimate so it doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:47 AM
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Well, in this instance you're essentially saying expecting women to act like intelligent human beings is expecting alot 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:34 AM
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It you and your friends are genuinely not like the women described in the post, then you definitely are the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:18 AM
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I expect women to behave like intelligent humans with self respect and not date a guy they don't even like for resources and free food. But maybe I'm expecting too much 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:04 AM
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Which means that your entire OP is just a distant cousin of something everyone already knows So it's not entirely wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:59 AM
1

Well, good job then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:51 AM
1

So why comment on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:45 AM
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I think you're confused. Your whole point is there are some women who don't use men for free food and resources and I'm saying they are the minority, which they objectively are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:44 AM
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Yes, which is why prostitution is more common among women than men. And also why many women are on onlyfans.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:43 AM
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And yet, women still base their attraction on men on free food and resources...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:37 AM
0

I see you don't actually have anything to add to the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:35 AM
-1

A minority != very rare. So they aren't the majority?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:32 AM
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tell whether RP Americans I'm not American, so your blind assumption makes me not even want to engage with everything else you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:31 AM
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You missed the point. What was your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:30 AM
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Idk there are women who financially support men and feed them. Are they the majority?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:24 AM
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Notice how you're not saying anything in the post is wrong...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:16 AM
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Its why you’re approaching her dude No, you approach her because you find her physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:50 PM
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Your post isn’t going to change the minds of all the men in the world either. I'm not trying to change the minds of all the men in the world. but lots of men think only with their dicks do their going to keep trying. Sounds like you should be helping me spread the message of the post because a lot of men don't like hearing that they should stop chasing women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 11:43 AM
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Why does there have to be anything else? The post wasn't directed at you specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 11:27 AM
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I'm glad you agree with the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 11:08 AM

but the push for marriage largely comes from social pressure. Not entirely. Many women actually want to get married and will end a relationship if the man doesn't propose when she thinks he should. Even other women encourage women to end such relationships. Most men and women aren't intelligent enough to question the status quo. So I'm not wrong then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:51 AM
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Precisely So women vow to love men they don't care about? That means they are terrible people. hence they'll stay in relationships with losers for years hoping to get the 'marriage milestone' ticked off the list. This makes them bad people. most women aren't disagreeable enough to actually question it, They aren't intelligent enough to question it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:43 PM
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women are socially conditioned into thinking they're worthless over a certain age if they don't get married. So they don't actually care about the men they say "yes" to, and they don't want to marry them, but they do anyway? Do they have any agency? I was desperate to get married as a teenager but when i did my research about it Why don't other women do the same if they really don't want to get married? Also women do reject proposals. With particular guys, but they don't reject the idea of marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 11:36 AM
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If women didn't benefit from it, they wouldn't aspire to getting married. They would just say "No" to proposals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:29 AM
1

I'm not sure if you know how socialising works but you don't have to go up to people to talk to them. Interactions happen naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:50 AM
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Talking to women I meet at parties and at college isn't "seeking them out." And giving someone your number isn't chasing. I don't think you know what words mean. You should look up what the words you're using mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:05 PM
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Ironically, I've had more "success" since I stopped chasing women 🤷‍♂️ I don't even ask for their numbers, I give them mine and they're the ones who text me first.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:18 AM
1

Most men are not Chad. They actually don't need to be. They just need to stop chasing women and stroking their egos for simply existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:42 PM
1

Men are the pursuants Dumb men who don't know who women are are the pursuants.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:15 PM
1

More like a demonstration of simpility 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:53 AM
1

brooooo bro bro what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:51 PM
1

Do you think part of the “marriage license” is the name change? It's part of the process of marriage. It's essentially two corporations merging together. That's why you get taxed as a collective not individually once you're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 02:03 PM
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They have to go through lengthy paperwork for everything to do it. That's what marriage is 🤦 Not doing it requires questioning things and thinking outside the box, which most women don't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:29 PM
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I implied it represented devotion to the other person as him kneeling does. It doesn't. It's a purely legal thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:24 PM
1

I didn't say they hated it. I said it's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:17 PM
-2

It tells that women know kneeling and asking someone to marry them is goofy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:14 PM
0

Great argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:13 PM
1

Women sacrifice her last name If their last name was such a big deal to them, they wouldn't change them so easily. Truth is women generally don't care about their last name, that's why they don't mind losing it. If men had to change their last names, they wouldn't accept it as quickly and easily as women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:12 PM
1

both men and women uphold the notion that men should propose. Why should men propose and not women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:03 AM
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Come on. Why are you pretending like women generally propose to men? Let alone proposing several times?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:31 AM
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Men also like being led, especially in marriages Be honest. Who openly admits they like being led by the other gender more, men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:25 AM
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Do you speak for all women or just the population you made up in your head? Do you think there are women who like being led? Or is that completely not possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:54 AM
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Wearing an engagement ring 24/7 shows a lot more devotion, c’mon. Men also wear it... Anyways, you referring to men as the “leader” and women as the “follower” shows an insane disproportion of power. I can tell that you do not consider both as equal. It's not my fault that women want to be led and have someone else take responsibility for them 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:41 AM
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Amazing. No woman would ever do that. That tells me all I need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:40 AM
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The truth is that men and women are equal. Who said they weren't? but the kneel signifies devotion which is an important aspect of a healthy marriage. No, it signifies an idiot. The fact that women don't do it shows you that the "devotion" is one way. Women show their devotion by wearing the ring. Oh wow. Such devotion 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:19 AM
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He proposed. Multiple times. I kept saying yes. So you said yes the first time and yet he felt the need to keep kneeling and asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:17 AM
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That's the amazing part. They work and still choose to base relationships on resources and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:06 AM
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My husband proposed to me multiple times. Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:05 AM
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Because I care about the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:53 AM

Nice. Thanks for making my post much more based.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:37 AM
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My observation is that there are a lot of women who don’t fit your experience. Sure. But they're still the minority. The majority of women want to be led, provided for and catered to. That's what love is to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:28 AM
0

It actually does...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:27 AM
1

Instead they pontificate about leading women but never actually led a woman. Because I'm not interested in leading anyone. That's the point 🤦 And I've had women say I'm not a real man because I don't wanna lead women. Which further proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:21 AM
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You're right. No women want to be led and provided for. It's just something I totally made up 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:18 AM
-3

Women don't like being led by a male, Many do. we earn our own living And yet many still want providers and can't form a relationship without using a man for resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:18 AM
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Women definitely want to be led Yes. That's what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:17 AM
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How can you prove that they’re a minority statistically? Through observation of human behaviour. If men actually could learn how to game women, we wouldn’t have so many of them complaining about getting no success. The ones getting no success are the ones who don't learn how to game women 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:15 AM
0

And where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:14 AM
1

Some? Sure, fine. Okay, at least we agree that they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:14 AM
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How would that work? "Hey, kneel down so I can ask you something." It would work through the women being the one to ask for marriage, not the man. Asking a woman to be with you until death is so absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:05 AM
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As long as you live in society, it makes sense to use the benefits and security provided by it. Like I said, if people understood what the state actually represented, they would be horrified. You can only say what you said while you're still ignorant. Sure, and women who do not fit in your ideas also exist Yes. Those are the minority. You talk as if we’re all the same though. Most women are, unfortunately. This is why pick-up artists exist and are actually successful. This is why men can learn h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:04 AM
-2

We agreed that adults don't need to be led. Not all women are psychological adults. In fact, most aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:02 AM
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Women don't say that at all Now you're just lying. Women literally write articles about how men should lead them. If you were honest you'd atleast acknowledge that some women want to be led, maybe not all, but some. But to pretend like women don't say men should lead them at all is just a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:01 AM
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but the same level of the state recognizing you as a family unit isn’t really achievable with other means. This is what I mean when I say marriage is idiotic. If people understood what the state actually represents, they would be horrified. Some women - sure. Okay, so such women do exist and I'm not just making up stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:59 AM
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we women can do that just fine. And yet many still wanna be led and provided for...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:57 AM
1

Adults don't need to be led. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:57 AM
1

You can pretend they don't like being led if you like. But reality paints a different picture. Women themselves say they want a man to be a leader and provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:56 AM
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You're the one pretending that women are just waiting around to be led by a man. The reality is many women actually like being led by men. We can pretend they don't if you like though. I've had men say I'm pretending to believe that women don't want to be led. That's because you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:55 AM
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Also men kneel cause they tend to be the taller one in a relationship. This isn't why men kneel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:46 AM
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Marriage is a good idea for people who want to build their own family. This can be done without marriage. Secondly, marriage doesn't necessarily have a leader/follow situation. From what I've seen, I'd say that most couples these days have a more egalitarian dynamic, as both partners work and have weight in family-related decisions. The reality is alot of women like being led and having someone else think for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:45 AM
-5

I like how you pretend like women wanting to be led by a man is a totally new and foreign idea. I've had women literally tell me that im not a real man because I said I'm not interested in leading anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:44 AM
0

You didn't address anything I said because you know it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:43 AM
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Men pay because men are free sex takers If they're paying then it's not free 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:35 AM
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Wow, the word ‘women’ in scare quotes. You’re openly insulting, and then act like the person you’re insulting is somehow irrationally emotional when they act like they’ve been insulted. The word "women" in quotes implies fake women, women who are just pretending, just like there are "men" who aren't real men. I'm not talking about you personally. You still haven't quoted something I actually said that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:33 AM
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You know I'm right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:40 AM
0

Notice how you're not saying I'm wrong...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:39 AM
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We don’t need to, because everyone knows that’s the end goal for most relationships For women, having kids is the end goal because it justifies them using a man as a provider. This is the unfortunate truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:38 AM
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Plenty of people have done this. No, they haven't and neither have you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:35 AM
-1

This could be applied to all genders… No, it couldn't. Not the things I actually said in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:33 AM
2

Women want providers because kids are expensive No one said anything about kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:31 AM
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“Women make me pay for dates and they still ghost me!” Boo hoo. Choose better. I actually make a conscious choice to not pay for dates to weed out the "women" with a parasitic mentality. Quote something I actually said in the post and tell me why it isn't true. I bet you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:31 AM
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“if I pay for dates, that means women owe me sex Where did I say this? Consider that - instead of name calling, and posting weird rants, maybe reflect on your own actions. Oh wait… you’re incapable. Consider that you just responded emotionally instead of actually addressing the contents of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:27 AM
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The regurgitating talking points from podcasts are so tired. I literally don't watch any podcasts. Everything in the post is based on my own observations and experiences, and many men have had similar experiences. It has nothing to do with hating women. Men are allowed to point out problematic behaviours and perceptions of women, just like women are allowed to do the same about men, which you constantly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:23 PM
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Instead of just "women bad"? Those are your words, not mine. Quote something I said in the post and then tell me why it's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:21 PM
2

Why would a man be interested in a woman who doesnt want to fuck him? If a woman doesn't want to fuck a man, why would she want him to keep being interested in her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 04:16 PM
1

This is what I mean by "self centered".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 04:13 PM
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what about men who think women should cook for them? Those me have usually paid in skme way, shape or form, hence the expectations. Most men aren't just going to expect a woman they aren't financially providing for or whatever to cook for them. Self awareness (and lack thereof) is not based in gender. It's not based on gender but one gender seems to lack it more than the other...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 04:12 PM
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This post says so much about you. Absolutely nothing about women. You can tell yourself this if you like, but that doesn't change how most women actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:27 PM
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Have you not had enough down votes yet? They mean nothing to me. In fact, when many people upvote my posts I actually get a bit concerned. Women owe you nothing. Not. A. Thing. That's great because I didn't say they owe me anything. The post isn't even about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:44 PM
1

Who are you talking to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:42 PM
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He just copies what someone has said and says the opposite of it. Can you give me an example of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:35 AM
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Women can provide for themselves. And yet many still want a provider. You desperately need to touch grass. Come on, atleast be original. I know it's hard, but you can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:30 AM
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SYBAU Rude. What I’m trying to say is that self-centred women are a noisy minority that benefit not only from men, but from women too. As long as we agree that they exist. Most women are quite modest, Modest and parasitic. Hope this helps! It really doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:23 AM
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Are they, as a group, more selfless than men? Probably You know this isn't actually true. If they were, they wouldn't be so entitled to men's money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:56 AM
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What makes you think women lack self awareness? Their behaviour and the things they say. Why do you think women put so much effort into appearance, posture, tone, etc etc to make themselves seem more acceptable? Because they are vapid and only care about their physical appearance. Yeah, it’s self centred. Yeah, it makes them bad people. Interesting... Not all women do this. True. The ones who don't are the minority. And a common reason women do do this, is because they assume men are self centre…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:52 AM
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I live in the real world. And in this "real world" you live in, all women are selfless and don't primarily care about themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:49 AM
-1

You don't need to be anyone in particular to notice self centered behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:48 AM
-3

I can focus on myself and still observe human behaviour. In fact, that's actually what I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:47 AM
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Good one. Fortunately, your non answer actually answered my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:30 AM
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We might not live in the same reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 08:31 AM
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No, you unfortunately are. You don't date women, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 08:30 AM
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Fortunately, your opinion doesn't mean anything because everyone knows you are wrong. Unfortunately I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:51 AM
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I don't really care about women "calling me out". I know that most women aren't used to being told the truth about themselves, so when someone says it, they immediately call them a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:46 AM
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Women aren't parasites Many unfortunately are. men made rules that prevented them from independence and those belief systems still filter through. At which point are women responsible for their actions and perceptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:42 AM
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You seem to be unable to address any points I addressed your points, you just don't like what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:39 AM
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and it has nothing to do with intelligence. It certainly does. Men also like to be led Those men are also idiots, but less idiotic than women since most of them would laugh at the idea of being led by a woman and yet women are willing to be led by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:34 AM
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men act generous because it’s expected from them. And women are not generous at all, and yet they're somehow "feminine", but all they are is self centered and parasitic. Maybe that's what femininity is 🤷‍♂️ Lots of women can get men who pay for them and don’t expect them to submit. Again, they will expect something in return. Thinking men pay and expect literally nothing is silly and shows that you dont understand how men or humans in general think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:32 AM
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without expecting submission. They'll still expect something. lots of them pay, because it’s expected from them and they don’t want to lose their chance with their date. What does this say about women? Does it say that they aren't self centered and selfish?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:30 AM
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Most women are not. They unfortunately are. Even women responding to this post lack so much self awareness that they dont see that they're proving me right. It's actually sad to be that devoid of self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:29 AM
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men generally do not expect a woman to demonstrate generosity. Because they know women aren't 6 will only lead to disappointment to expect them to. Most are incapable of being genuinely generous. You dont act generous because people expect you to but because you're a caring human being who isn't selfish, but ofcourse most women aren't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:26 AM
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Basic understanding of human nature should tell you that if someone is willing to pay for something, they will expect something in return in some way, shape or form. You're literally proving the point of my post and you don't even see it 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:25 AM
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is freeing when someone is telling what you have to do and you don't need to think about it. Which is the mentality of most women, hence their level of intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:23 AM
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I like being led about the things that i don't care about or don't matter to me. Very intelligent approach to life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:16 AM
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I pointed out that you directly repeat what the book says. That doesn't mean women described in the post don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:15 AM
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Women can now work, make their own money, buy their own house and pay for themselves. And yet the parasitic mentality is still present... so some women still expect men to pay for things like back when that was what we had to do due to the absence of choice. Oh so such women do exist? Some women are traditional, some women are not. Both are parasitic. We are all different Not really. Most women are just copies of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:14 AM
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while other people find arousal in what the person does. Like paying for stuff and providing material things? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:11 AM
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The question is not how women show their generosity It is, since I asked. But ofcourse we both know the answer that's why you won't answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:10 AM
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by claiming that they are so self centered that they don’t understand that financial provision comes at the cost of submission. They don't seem to understand this, though. Or maybe they do, but they like pretending like they don't 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:09 AM
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Part of the point is women work and can even make more money than men, and yet they choose to approach relationships from a parasitic perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:05 AM
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The ones who act like parasites, yes. What else would I see them as if they're acting like parasites?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:03 AM
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too stupid to deserve to make decisions about their own lives . Many women actually like being led by men and think men who don't want to lead them aren't real men... Your quote has no relevance to anything said in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:02 AM
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and show her that you’re generous. And how does she show that she's generous. Do women even feel the desire to show that they're generous?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:00 AM
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If you think all women are selfish, that’s all you will find. I didn't say all women. But the majority definitely are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:59 AM
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Like I said in the post: "...unfortunately whenever this gets pointed out, rather than self reflecting on their behaviour, women get defensive and start name calling, which I imagine will happen in response to this post."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:57 AM
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Cause most do where I live you know. That's the point. Women can work now and can even make more money than men, and yet they still want men to pay for dates and provide for them. That makes them even more parasitic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:56 AM
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There is a number of men who expect sex after a first date, else they bail. Those are also the kind of men to think it's their role to pay for dates. There are men who expect the woman to be arousing to them else they won't be interested. Why would anyone want a sexual relationship with someone they don't find arousing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:55 AM
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It's not a gendered thing. Are there large numbers of men who expect women to provide for them and pay for dates otherwise they won't be interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:32 AM
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Like I said in the post: "...unfortunately whenever this gets pointed out, rather than self reflecting on their behaviour, women get defensive and start name calling, which I imagine will happen in response to this post."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:31 AM
1

Maybe you are, but I'm not. What separates me from animals is a higher level of consciousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:24 AM
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Like I said in the post, a woman is either attracted to you or she isn't. There is no need to try to get her. The men she's actually attracted to don't have to try, unless they're idiots who don't realise that they don't need to try to attract a woman who's already attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:59 AM
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So it is important that you impress That's like saying it's important for a billionaire to impress a homeless person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:48 AM
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Men should put up a front of “not trying”, No, that's silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:35 AM
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Women like nice guys. Not really. I only date kind men and ended up marrying the kindest and nicest man I've ever met. What woman doesn't say this about her partner, even if it's not true? Also, I never said anything about not being kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:14 AM
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most cases a man has to prove to a women or girl why she should fuck him It's called attraction 🤦 I'm a black man who has simped to a degree That's the problem. and yet men still got on 1 knee and proposed Yeah, to overcompensate for the way they were collectively treating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:04 PM
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Which is what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:57 PM
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Not trying doesn't men zero sexual energy. It's not all on or all off. Yes, that's why in the post I said; "but i feel like I should clarify for the slow people that not trying doesn't mean not communicating in a positive way with women or remembering their birthdays or whatever. It's about not trying to be liked and just being yourself."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:52 AM
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The most successful men i witnessed are the ones who treat women similarly than they do men That's what "not trying" means. Don't talk to her like she's a wild animal you're trying to lure in, she's a person. I don't even know why you felt the need to say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:15 AM
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I just know that men will take anything, What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:14 AM
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Have you put your ideology to the test? I stopped trying along time ago just because I didn't care anymore, and then I found out that it's much better that way and talking to women was much more fun. So I put it to the test unknowingly, and it "worked".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:06 AM
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I put in effort by not rejecting him That's not putting in effort. The reality is you want a man to try to impress you like he's auditioning for your approval, while you just sit back and either accept or reject him. He'd be a loser to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:04 AM
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If you're initiating and showing interest and the guy is open to it but isn't trying to impress or be liked, what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:22 AM
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And how do you "put in effort"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:39 AM
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If he tries, he'll still be short and bold...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:28 AM
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What does "put in effort" mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:27 AM
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Do they do that on dates with men? Be honest. They don't even like paying for themselves on dates, and yet you want me to believe that on their birthday they somehow become less selfish?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:34 AM
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There's nothing about my relationship that is transactional. Meanwhile women in the comments and in real life say that relationship are transactional...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:10 AM
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That's the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:09 AM
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but society should be set up in a way where women do not feel the need to do OnlyFans, as well as there being no demand for it And what would that look like? How does society make women not feel the need for attention and easy money from men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:13 AM
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unless he insisted cause it was his bday So because it was his birthday, he insisted on paying? Do women where you're from also do this? Do they insist on paying for men on their own birthday?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:29 PM
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So are women who have onlyfans exploiting themselves? If so, what can be done to stop them? Should their rights be limited?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:58 AM
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men fall for things provided as well. Not exactly. The things "provided" for men are the result of them paying in some way, shape or form.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:12 AM
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So you stalk me? 😂 I didn't even quote her in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:28 AM
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Otherwise this is a bad faith post where you just shoot everything down as “not love” But I didn't shoot anyone down. I'm simply asking what you think love is, since you seem to disagree with what's in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:08 AM
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So you don't have to base your worldview on Esther Vilar... You're the only one who mentioned her...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:55 AM
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You made the post and the claims, you’re supposed to tell us the standards/definition Yeah, and I'm asking you what you think love is so I can respond to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:54 AM
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Most guys don't need to buy girlfriends. I don't see the point in pretending like most women aren't interested in men's money and resources. Do you think that atleast some women like that exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:51 AM
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I too can say “men take and take and get used to it and end up simply not giving back”. That wouldn’t make it true, though. Atleast you know it wouldn't be true. What I'm saying on the other hand is. Besides - the dating world is more than what you see on social media and silly podcasts. I don't use social media much and I literally don't watch any podcasts. What I'm saying is based on reality. I find it hard to believe that most women you know aren't interested in men paying for dates or in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:48 AM
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You need to tell us what love is then What do you think it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:15 AM
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Both men and women give and take, it’s a straight up exchange, otherwise it would be a one sided relationship and one that wouldn’t work, obviously. Women are primarily about taking (the opposite of femininity), and once a man has given them alot, then they'll give, but their giving isn't genuine. It's a transaction. The dating world is a great example of this and the level of entitlement women have when it comes to men paying for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:52 AM
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Emotional support, sex, care, entertainment. Men also provide these things...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:57 AM
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Most women work That's the amazing thing. Most women work, and many even make more money than men, and yet the parasitic mentality hasn't changed. It's pretty sad. I've never heard of a woman insisting on paying for a man on a date (like men do) but instead, they insist that he must pay for them otherwise, they won't be interested. No psychological evolution seems to have taken place since the 1800s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:55 AM
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I would think the type of woman you are talking about by far the minority. They are unfortunately the majority. The only difference is the degree to which they demand those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:47 AM
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It wasn't an argument. It was a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:41 AM
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I think most women aren't dating for money or nice things. Those things are definitely a major factor. It's extremely naive to think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:35 AM
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And all this gets done without the man providing any finances?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:34 AM
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these things, any sort of financial thing really. So are there no women like that or are they very rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:28 AM
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"Men tend to describe why they love their partners based on what services their partners provide for them". Services like what, for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:27 AM
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neither times was I doing those things for my partner. What things?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:23 AM
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generally men describe their "love" for their partners in terms of what they do for them. That's the point. And women's describe their "love" based on what men do for them. Do you not see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:21 AM
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What I'm saying is women's "love" is based on what men do for them, not the men themselves. Your (women's) love is all about you and what you can get from the other person. It's not about giving, it's about taking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:20 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:19 AM
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If "good" women are attracted to bad men, then they are not good women, unless ofcourse by "good" you mean they're virgins or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:08 AM
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it’s because the system has taught them that’s where their value lies. Which results in them being shallow... Yet those same women are often punished for wanting too much, Nobody punishes women for being intelligent and having depth. Many men actually want to be with women like this, but they're a minority. Most men want someone they can have an intelligent conversation with. what they’re often reacting to is the small slice of women No, unfortunately, many women don't really bring much to the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:25 AM
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I didn't say you claimed anything. I simply asked what was untrue about the reasons I gave. And also you said you can only support the first part of what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:58 PM
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Not necessarily for the reason you listed What's not true about the reason I listed?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:18 PM
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At some point you'll realise it doesn't matter who makes the first move, and sometimes the first move can be as simple as eye contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:18 PM
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women arent meant to chase men. Nobody is "meant" to chase anyone. I feel like yall are lowkey gay lol If getting women interested in you without you chasing them is gay to you then you are confused and probably also have some psychological issues around insecurity in your masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:48 PM
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they won't remember me. Is it really worth wasting your time on people like that just to put your dick in a wet hole other men have already been in?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:39 AM
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somehow don’t benefit from leadership They benefit from leadership if they're idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:38 AM
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False. Believe it or not, women are also attracted to men and sometimes they actually put in effort to show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:37 AM
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I'm curious what it looks like when it works It looks like not chasing women but still talking to them and having them be interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 11:20 AM
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They'd probably be happy if the average man left her alone. And so they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:05 AM
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just because someone requires leading in a thing doesn’t make her “brainless and soulless” It does. Adults are supposed to be intelligent enough to lead themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:04 AM
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Most women are not attracted to most men So why is not chasing them such a big deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:03 AM
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Right...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:34 AM
1

Sure bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:22 AM
1

How much time and effort do you think making a reddit post takes?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:22 AM
2

Someone is anonymous on reddit? How strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:21 AM
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and you expect them to come to you rather than having to "chase" them I don't expect them to do anything because I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:11 AM
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you're the sheep. Like I said, you're free to believe what you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:10 AM
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by all means make your case. That would make me a sheep 😂 You're free to believe whatever you like. I don't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:52 AM
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Any women who stumble upon this - does this post or any response give you the inkling that this man has natural charisma, intuition, and luck with women? Who cares? 😂 If they say yes, so what? And if they say no, so what? It literally means nothing either way because they don't know me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:50 AM
2

Do such women not exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:49 AM
1

I guess someone doesn't understand metaphors.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:48 AM
2

If you say so 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:33 AM
2

Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:33 AM
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If that were the case, i would be in favour of chasing women, Einstein since i wouldnt be getting them naturally 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:31 AM
1

Women are not the same as men. That doesn't mean they have to be soulless and brainlesss 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:30 AM
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Leaders and protectors have to convince people to follow them. No, the shepherd doesn't need to convince the sheep of anything. They're sheep.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:29 AM
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Why in the hell do you guys want women to change though? Coz they kinda suck. if I was gay, there’s no way I’d date you” That's pretty gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:28 AM
1

You do know that you can just ignore posts you don't like, right? Or maybe you didn't know...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:26 AM
1

You've put women and sex on a pedestal, And that's why I don't chase them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:25 AM
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Because this reads like yet another thread where women should settle with men they aren't attracted to or men who are broke. It always ends up being about money 🥱
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:24 AM
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I am the most important person in her life. I'm sure you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:24 AM
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What's not true about what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:22 AM
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Those men are already lonely, they may just not be aware of it. If you're friends with someone you have to chase, they're not a real friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:21 AM
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You can't in one phrase say that the only thing men want is looks and then blame women for not bringing up more. I can do both, actually. Just because men have low standards beyond looks doesn't mean women shouldn't work on themselves beyond their physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:14 AM
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No one has ever been able to get men to stop thirsting, not even God/eternal damnation and hellfire It almost seems like you want them to keep thirsting...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 01:08 PM
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Hence the post 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:53 PM
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This is said about women who criticize the behavior of men as well Not really. Women can say all kinds of horrible things about men without any one saying anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:43 PM
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So what is your point then? It's in the post. How will desirablw men stopping chasing accomplish anything if they don't even chase in the first place? I said they don't need to chase. Meaning they do chase, but its not necessary 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:25 PM
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Maybe part of the problem is you see women as prey.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:07 PM
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What’s actually selfish is expecting a woman to have a sweet personality, traditional values, emotional warmth... These are all things you made up. I didn't say any of this. You didn’t screen for kindness, depth, or compatibility, Most women lack all this. If you don’t want to end up with someone shallow, stop chasing shallow women. Most are shallow and their concern is always financial, like you've just proved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:06 PM
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By chasing them you're telling them they're "powerful queens".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:03 PM
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In my case, it leads to having a very desirable young girlfriend and lots of casual sex on the side. I just come out of a weekend of 2 days of having a threesome with 2 women. Result of competing for women. If you have to compete for all those women then it's obvious they don't actually give a fuck about you but I guess for some men sex is everything, even if it's with people who dont care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:48 AM
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That explains the post. Only idiots compete for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:24 AM
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Because I don't need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:57 AM
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why would women change if men stop chasing them Because their sense of identity is based on men chasing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:56 AM
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if the women start chasing the men they will chase the men that fit their standards Shouldn't women want this??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:50 AM
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No, I don't want to be with a brainless and soulless woman who can't think for herself and needs to be led and provided for. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:49 AM
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That makes more sense than men chasing women. Only in an insane world would the protectors, leaders and providers chase people to lead, protect and provide for. It makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:41 AM
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I mean you literally just said that married women have found a “long term human atm” and all are essentially the same I'm not wrong, though 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:37 AM
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Men fight this competition by improving their mate value and "chasing", courting, attacking other men, etc. Well, good luck with that. You are just not competing for them. I don't compete for any women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:36 AM
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I don't think men stopping chasing women completely will 1. happen and 2. change women's standards much. That's because you're a negative Nancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:35 AM
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You don't actually know that because you don't know any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:26 AM
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It doesn’t matter. Either way, men need to stop simping and chasing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:20 AM
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I mean yeah you sound like you kind of really hate women This literally means nothing because any man who criticises the behaviour of women is said to hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:17 AM
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Women for the most part do not chase men, Because men chase them, that's the point 🤦 and men are generally less content being alone than women, This isn't actually true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:16 AM
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I’m guessing it won’t go very well. If I made the post, that obviously means I've been doing it and found it worked, hence the post 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:15 AM
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Women do not care about undesirable men not chasing them. Which is why they should stop... And you won't get desirable men to stop chasing because men like having dates relationships and sex Desirable men don't need to chase 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:12 AM
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I'm already not being chased by men So then there is a way men will stop chasing women...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:02 AM
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Realistically: there's no way men will stop chasing women, regardless of how much this forum likes to say they hate women and women aren't worth it lol It sound like you enjoy things being this way...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:50 AM
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But how would this ever be done on a mass scale? One individual man can decide to stop giving attention to women, but for every guy who does this, there will be ten more simps willing to take his place. The point is you stop chasing women out of respect for yourself, not because other men do it. Other men can simp if they like, that doesn't mean you have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:48 AM
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Being attractive doesn't mean you're not a simp or a psychological child that chases women and caters to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:45 AM
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There is a large chunk of men look for more than looks. Not really. The state of women tells me that. And that is especially true among the demographic of men who actually get married and have successful marriages. Women who get married aren't different from other women. Its just that they've found a long term human atm while the others haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:44 AM
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I'm not talking about myself Then who are you talking about? If you can do it, why can't others?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:43 AM
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Like you're doing it now Yeah, I'm the minority of men who will actually say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:42 AM
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Even in theory it would work I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:30 AM
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Funny you think the answer is women to improve and not men Men get constantly told they need to improve themselves but women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:29 AM
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The point is that biology made us that way, Are you some kind of idiot who has no free will and is controlled by their biology?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:27 AM
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Pick one You literally just made up a quote 😂 Why even bother commenting? I really don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:15 AM
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Because what you said has no relevance to the post. Obviously men and women aren't monoliths but generalisations still work otherwise studies done on populations would have no relevance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:10 AM
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The only thing this post tell us, I don't think you even read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:02 AM
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You do know that men have been chasing women forever? Not actually true. By "forever", what are you referring to? And which culture at what time period? It has always been this way. No, it hasn't. Also, just because something has been a certain way doesn't mean you can't change it. husband deeply desires me Oh you're a woman. Ofcourse a woman thinks men should keep chasing women 🤦 don't find him less desirable due to this... Sure you don't. He isn't lonely Right, because you can understand someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:55 AM
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That is not true What isn't? they literally fucked hundreds of attractive women over the years And they still chase them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:51 AM
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Imagine your only redeeming quality being able to open jars. It was obviously a joke 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:36 AM
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Is the only way you can talk to women and relate to them by chasing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:34 AM
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but collecting it won't do anything. Collecting what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:26 AM
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Again, it's not about me, it's about women in general 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:20 AM
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Women won't change shit because we DON'T CARE Based on my experience, not chasing them actually works better than chasing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:19 AM
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you cannot possibly expect top tier men to stop fucking women, Top tier men don't need to chase women. Thats the point 🤦 You also don't need to chase women to get laid, especially if you're "top tier".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:19 AM
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I don't need women would chase men back if men stopped chasing. That's not what's being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:14 AM
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I guess you don't understand how generalisations work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:12 AM
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Did you not read the comment you're responding to??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:12 AM
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Not really. I know from my own experience. Women are also biologically programmed to be attracted to men just as men are to them. Unfortunately because of the simps and men constantly chasing, this doesn't seem true because women have too many men stroking their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:11 AM
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That's what women want you to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:07 AM
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I didn't read the body, sorry. So why comment? Kinda busy with something else. Maybe put your phone down and focus on doing that "something else". And then share your opinion once you've actually read the post you're responding to...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:06 AM
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What's funny is you're not saying that anything I said about women is wrong...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:03 AM
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Lots and lots and lots of men carry standards higher than looks. Not really. For many men, looks are the main thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:03 AM
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They dont x 2 Only women think they don't need to self improve, which proves the point of my post even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:02 AM
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now what? Now you've distinguished yourself as one of the rare ones, if you're actually telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:01 AM
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Women don't need men. Who's gonna open jars for them? They dont care if men chase them or not. They do. They also don't need to be better. They definitely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:56 AM
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because YOU pick poorly and only go for entitled and selfish women, I don't pick those women, but they do exist, and they aren't rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:49 AM
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Not chasing women doesn't result in failure. It results in a better quality of women who will actually reciprocate the effort. Men are already getting individual failure by chasing women with big egos from being chased by a bunch of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:30 AM
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That’s why they chase. Sure, but the point isn't why they chase. The point is about stopping chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:21 AM
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That's not really a counterpoint. You're just stating what people get from dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:11 AM

Stats mean nothing in this context. If you were right, only a minority of women would be in relationships and yet that's clearly not true. Obviously many women are in relationships for resources too (which is disgusting), but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:22 AM
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Also, what about relationships where the women is a major supplier of the resources, IE either the primary or the solebreadwinner? Is this common?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:51 PM
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Most men aren't in it for business, but women defs are. Also, I said men are looking for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:10 PM
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remind me again why women are the only transactional people in this equation? I didn't say they were...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:36 PM
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then all men are about sex holds true too. It does, but that's partially because most women bring nothing but their bodies to the table 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:12 PM

Only a tiny minority of men are attractive to women. That's not actually true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:11 PM
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Quote something in the post that isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:11 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:49 PM
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Too many do for the idea of women wanting to protect their children as some biological imperative to mean nothing because those women are just slaves to their biology just like you said you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:13 PM
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Your point was that women are incapable of love The self centered desire to be provided for and that makes them expect certain treatment that puts them on a pedestal is what makes them incapable of love. There's too much ego to be able to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:12 PM
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Only recently we see women claiming they want a man with resources They have always wanted a man with resources. They literally couldn't work or have a bank account until relatively recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:10 PM
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Some women abuse their children, some abort them. Some end up trafficking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:08 PM
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Do you really think that most women aren't concerned about men paying for dates and providing resources in some way?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:07 PM
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I guess yes. So we basically agree. There is probably women who base their love on dancing moves too. No, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:06 PM
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How are you going to give it to children when you don't have it in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:05 PM
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Love is a biological reaction to get us to mate. No, sexual attraction is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:04 PM
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The answer is no unless you are religious or believe in the metaphysical. So you think you are just your brain its programming? There's no way I can ever be "more" than that. There's more to a real human being than the biological impulses of the body.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:03 PM
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but it is not tight to finance and resources for most women. It is for many. I'm sure you know this. You might disagree on the percentage of women who are like that, but they are not rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:53 AM
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You’re trying to moralize biology Are you more than your biology or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:49 AM
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But to the average woman, their idea of love is generally self serving in some way, particularly in the form of finances and resources, so it doesn't really count.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:48 AM
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unless some men i guess love parasites and leeches They have learnt to just accept that it's just how many women are. Most men know their partner's "love" is dependent on material things like them paying for women's stuff and also catering to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:15 AM
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Answering what?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:14 AM
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Because a prostitute doesn't love her client does that mean she's incapable of loving someone else? The point is you can say someone doesn't love another person without knowing them and be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:13 AM
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Women’s biological imperative is to gather resources so their children have better chances of survival and success. That's why I said I'm not saying you should change. I know you can't help it. Your "love" will always be self serving as long as you use your "biological imperative" to gather resources for children as an excuse for being entitled and parasitic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:11 AM
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The reality is women have children for selfish reasons. For many it provides a justification for having a man provide for them. Most men wouldn't want to play provider for a woman who he has no children with. Women know this and so they have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:09 AM
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What's not true about what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:02 AM
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Generalisations don't apply to everyone. That's why I said in the post many women, not all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:59 AM
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Are you saying every violent man is mentally unwell? Every violent person is mentally unwell. The violence is a symptom of a psychological and emotional problem. This is basic psychology. That is the calculated behaviour of a person with full awareness of what they are doing. Psychopaths also know what they're doing, but they're still psychologically sick. pay or find a woman that doesn't expect you to. You're missing the point. It's not about me. It's about collective female behaviour that is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:31 AM
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You can interpret the truth however you like 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:07 AM
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you can't deal with your "loneliness epidemic" If I felt lonely I would just accept having to deal with self centered and entitled women like most men do. There is no "loneliness epidemic". The truth is no one on planet earth loves anyone else unconditionally In other words, no one on planet earth actually Ioves anyone 🤷‍♂️ There will always be something the other person can do that will make you reject them. The word "unconditional" isn't meant to be taken literally to an extent where you just …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:06 AM
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There are men that leech off of the emotional and physical labour of women all the damn time. Yeah, and that's also wrong. and there are people that love their partners for what they do for them without taking advantage of them. You've proving my point. In the post I said most women don't love men for who they are as human beings. You love men for they do for you, not who they are intrinsically, which is fine. Most women can't help it because of their social conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:23 AM
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My husband would no longer benefit from my love should he become abusive Unconditional love means leaving your husband if he becomes abusive but also having enough love to realise that he is mentally unwell, otherwise he wouldn't be abusive. Do you see ONLY rich handsome tall men in happy relationships? A man doesn't have to be rich for a woman to be with him based on him paying for stuff. She taught me to strive to become everything men want and need, Ironically, men who don't have a high opini…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:10 AM
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Many guys, especially ones from more traditional backgrounds, see a woman eager to pay her own way as a sign she doesn't like him and wants to cut ties. This is where being the kind of person who questions things come in. Where do you think the tradition of men paying for women's way came from? And did women have equal rights at that time? And women from the same background are raised not to let a man pay for her if she doesn't intend to see him agai This is why in the post I said they can't hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:06 AM
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I would leave my husband if he were to become abusive. That's a condition and having boundaries. That goes without saying. When people talk about unconditional love, it doesn't mean you have to put up with abuse 🤦 It's about loving someone beyond the superficial and material stuff like resources and money. It's a very strange mindset to me to worry about the women that you aren't interested in The point is the majority of wome are as described in the post 🤦 It's not personal. It's about critiqui…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:58 AM
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No. I'd actually be dating more women if I did. But unfortunately, I'm interested in who a woman is beyond her body, so I have fewer options since most women are too preoccupied with their bodies so that there isn't much beyond their looks. Women have actually used me for my body, though. It's not just men who do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:53 AM
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heterosexual women orgasms the least out of all women This is a skill issue on the part of the men they choose. choking became normal thing, excuse me, Some women like it so you can't just blame men. relationships could be more egalitarian if there is no sex and children I think the point you're missing is most women aren't asexual so they also want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:50 AM
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we are shopping for an insemination and pair bond partner. Which proves my point about women not caring about men as humans. Why do you insist on proving my point while seemingly disagreeing? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:04 AM
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Women who want to be paid for on dates usually date men they're into Obviously. not just any guy for money. No. A guy they like for money. The money, free food and resources are the foundation. I guess they consider being paid for a part of courting/flirting That doesn't change the parasitic mentality. it's a sign that a man is interested in them. If a woman thinks a man paying for her meal means he's genuinely interested and her having to pay for herself means he isn't interested then she's an …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:02 AM
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So now you admit you are a sexual predator... 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:57 AM
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Women aren't a hive mind. Unfortunately many act like they are. Women don't all want the exact same things. Many do. More women than ever don't need to rely on men to financially support them. They don't need to and yet they choose to. That makes it even worse. No love is unconditional. Real love is. Stop painting women as vapid shallow beings Many unfortunately are. I wish it wasn't true but I'm not gonna pretend I don't see what I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:56 AM
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we would be going for other manly attributes. Yeah, you'd be dating based on social credit 😂 Women see these traits and flush you out. And that's why many complain about being used for their bodies, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:51 AM
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on labour, servitude Maybe in the 1920s or maybe right wing and traditional men want this. immaterial things. Love is immaterial...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:24 AM
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I like a manly man and was gorgeous so wouldn't waste time with you as a B level date. You're literally proving my point 😂 And like I said in the post, I'm not saying that you should change. I know you can't help it. The only way you can "love" is if you gain financially or in some material way from it. I personally would rather die alone that be with someone like this, but most guys don't think like me so you'll have no problem finding a man to get things from in exchange for affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:22 AM
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I’m having the best dating success right now completely broke and jobless. I've had similar experiences but that doesn't mean I have to pretend like many women out there don't have a parasitic mentality. Even some of the women I've been with without playing their game still had the same mentality to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:19 AM
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MEN’S LOVE (lust) IS CONDITIONAL . It’s NOTHING about pure unconditional love. I didn't say anything about unconditional love. I didn't even say men love unconditionally. The title says they are looking for love. Those are 2 different things. I’m not more interesting or creative for them 😂 Maybe you still are but they're looking for a different type of relationship...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:17 AM
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My takeaway is that you refuse to answer this simple question because you fear it will somehow weaken your argument. Not really. My post is from a western culture perspective. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:15 AM
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You know what they say about making assumptions, right? Also, you bringing up a job proves my point but you don't even see it 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:14 AM
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Men and women find different traits attractive Money and material things aren't a trait. If a man has more resources that is often a testament to his work ethic, his ambition and his ability to offer security. This is you just trying to justify being a leech. Like I said in the post, I'm not saying that you should change. I know you can't help it. You see no point in loving a man if you don't get security and material benefits from it and that's fine. The post is mostly for men who fall for wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:12 AM
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Men do the same thing. Okay, but that means that I'm not wrong, doesn't it? it'a a people thing. Using other people is a people thing, but its really only women who base their feeling towards a man on resources, finances and material things. And if these things aren't there, they aren't interested. This is a uniquely female thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:08 AM
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This tells me you know what the post says is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:48 AM
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I guess you've never heard of generalisations or why people use them. But I have no problem with saying the majority of women are as described in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:48 AM
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For the most part, yes. It's actually very obvious to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:47 AM
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The title says men are looking for love. And love in a romantic context involves sex. Surely you know this even if you're asexual...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:46 AM
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You wanting others to care for you and doing things for you is not you loving them, This is literally women. They want men to be generous, but they themselves aren't. They want men to love them unconditionally and yet they themselves want financial compensation to be able to pretend to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:45 AM
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You sound like a victim of gold digger and needy women. I'm an observer of women and their behaviour. I weed out the gold diggers by simply letting them pay for their own meals. That's all it takes for them to reveal themselves and that's actually sad. My husband the apex provider 😂 He is loved because he is smart and a kind soul. And because he's "the apex provider". I am sorry you see women as a pay-to-play scenario. It's women who actually see themselves that way. They literally objectify the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:43 AM
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You can't expect a sexual man to want to be in a romantic relationship with an asexual woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:39 AM
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The reality is people fall in love but still have expectations for their romantic partner. And women's expectations are about finances and material things. That's not love. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:37 AM
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I never said they don’t exist. So what are you going on about? But you act like this is the majority of it all women which just isn’t true. The post said many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:36 AM
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Forget about my cultural background. Is what's said in the post true or not? Are there women who use men for resources and expect men to pay for dates while basing their feelings on whether he paid or not, or do they not exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:35 AM
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You're right, women described in the post definitely don't exist. Women would never use men for resources and finances. That only happens in movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:34 AM
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Does your mum count?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:32 AM
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You can love what your partner does for you and love them for who they are as a person. Not if the foundation is resources, finances and other material things. It's very rare for a woman to genuinely love her partner. She has to have some financial and material incentive to be able to pretend to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:25 AM
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Men also value what women can do for them Okay, but the post isn't wrong though, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:24 AM
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They do not refer to women as money hungry leeches. The truth must be told regardless of people's feelings. What's funny is you're not actually challenging anything I said in the post (because you know its true). You've resorted to trying to insult me because you can't address the points I made. Chances are you are just like the women described in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:22 AM
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most people don't like leeches be it a man or a woman. That's ironic because many women are indeed leeches, and they're not only proud of it, they actually think it makes them feminine. They think paying for their own meals is masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:58 AM
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You love the social capital they offer you. What are you talking about? You are the leeches on the world. You cant belong to a gender that literally begs men for money in exchange for affection and then call someone else a leech.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:56 AM
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Unfortunately true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:41 AM
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Women ARE special in dating. No, they aren't. Women in general are attractive to men in general. So are men, that's how biology and nature works 🤦 That is why men chase women and not vice versa. Dumb men chase women. I've never chased a woman in my life and yet I've been with many. men don't need or expect a woman to be financially generous in a first date. The reason women "need" or expect men to be financially generous is because most of them are greedy parasites who can only take and give not…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:47 AM
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On a first date the woman doesn't typically like you enough to be invested in any way because she doesn't know you. Women aren't special. This is a human thing. Men also need to know you to like you beyond your body. This is common sense. Ive never met a quality guy who expected or wanted to be wooed by a woman. Being generous isn't about "wooing" anyone 🤦 So since you never "woo"anyone, you are never generous in your entire life? How are you going to be a good mother when you think it's men's r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:35 AM
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she doesn't know you and thus doesn't have anything about you to like. Yeah, she does, otherwise she wouldn't like me. It's called attraction. Also men are full packages, a men who is generous and wants to show you a good time via putting effort into courting you is revealing something about himself and his interest in you which are very attractive And you don't think women being generous is something men also look for and putting in effort? Are women so special that they're the only ones who li…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:21 AM
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I think you should reread the post from start to finish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:51 AM
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Don’t hate on “feminine” resources because it will warp your view of the world. What are "feminine" resources? Did you actually even read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:12 AM
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47% of the work force is women. Women are also slowly but surely dominating STEM fields. Yeah, and yet many women are still too focused on getting resources from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:07 AM
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I study epigenetics, and ”desire for money” is not among the things that changes our genome, nor is attraction easily explained by genetics lol. Over thousands of years of living in particular environments, like colder and harsher environments, survival becomes a central part of life, and for women, finding a man with resources would've been tied to their survival. This way of living and approaching relationships for thousands of years had epigenetic effects, meaning developing in colder and har…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:01 AM
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women at large would choose to partner with men who are mean, ugly, etc. That's not what I said. Of course, physical attraction also plays a role, but that doesn't change the fact that most are still primarily concerned about getting resources in whatever form from the man they're with. wanting a man who pays for dates doesn’t mean he has to be a millionare. This is what I'm talking about. It's not "wanting a man with morals" or "wanting a man with intelligence". It's primarily about getting res…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:42 AM
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Oh, so they’re not actually paying for houses and transport and schools and babysitting and sports and camps and lessons and clothes and food and entertainment and travel and college? This is literally the bare minimum any idiot that has kids should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:50 PM
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People still want kids Yeah, for selfish reasons. They don't actually care about the kids and women just use them to get resources from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:34 PM
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Yes, but there's a certain group that's overtly concerned about white birth rates declining.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:24 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:48 PM
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This post is stupid AF and shows a lack of real life experience in relationships. You're right. It's unheard of that women choose men based primarily on resources. Gold diggers don't exist either 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:47 PM
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The point is they were with those men for superficial reasons which is why divorce rates are so high. Alternatively, they're just bad at picking men 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:46 PM
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You’re not describing evolution You're right. I'm describing de-evolution because making relationships transactional is actually taking humanity backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:32 PM
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Only white men on the political right are concerned about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:26 PM
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Kids are just the excuse women use to get resources from men for themselves. If they actually cared about the kids they would think twice about reproducing in a world where according to the FBI, one child goes missing every 40 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:17 PM
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Before I engage with you is this going to be another post where you say things and then claim you didn't say them like your last post? You remember my other posts? Well, that's nice. I'm flaterred.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:52 PM

the complexity of human epiginetic trauma is not limited to asshole white people colonizing the world. It kinda is though...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:27 PM
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you defined women wanting resources and claiming it's due to ice age conditions. It is. Epigenetics play a huge role in human behaviour. if you dropped the white supremacist Since when did white supremacist say their condition is due to the environment they developed in? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:24 PM
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you couldn't even define a "western mindset" if you tried. Well, I literally did, in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:17 PM
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so you're only speaking to the white women in the audience ? The Western mindset is what colonised the world and consequently the minds of non-white women. It was called colonization and it happened in Africa, Europe, America, Australia, New Zealand and other places.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:11 PM
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mating across time and space is pretty similar. No, not really. In ancient african cultures for example, the idea of the man being some kind of "provider" would've been laughable because women played an equal part in society whereas in western cultures they were oppressed and seen as being beneath men, hence them having less rights and being led by men. This all boils down mainly to the environment. Africa was green and abundant whereas Europe was just coming out of the ice age so it was cold an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:02 PM
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Because all of the relationships I have been in were because I liked the guy and was attracted to him. If this is actually true, it doesn't mean that other women don't prioritise resources over connection. This is why most women have such a big problem with paying their own bills on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:54 PM
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If you’re able to attract women in the normal ways, you don’t need to offer an incentive. I know, but the fact remains that most women date with a man's resources as a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:41 PM
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If women’s instincts are “fixed,” I didn't say they were fixed... and men have been conditioned for millennia to provide. You're right, they have. That's why I said this also affects men in the post. So why are so many men constantly complaining about having to do it? Because some are starting to see through the conditioning but most women don't. And so many men feel used.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:40 PM
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If you’re not attractive to someone, and she suddenly wants to date you because you’re offering “resources,” that’s not attraction. That's the point. Women date men primarily based on resources, meaning they're not actually into those men, hence high divorce rates and cheating in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:12 PM
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I think they're great and hope they become even more successful so they'll start focusing on other qualities of men beyond resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:06 PM
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Rather than to be attracted to the physical traits of men who were best able to protect and provide. You still prove my point. Even when you put it in your own words, it ends up being about being protected and getting resources, which are all things related to developing in a cold and harsh climate in Europe 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:05 PM
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I didn't say you're wrong because I said so. I said my post is in alignment with evolutionary psychology. And just because I put the debate tag on, that doesn't mean I have to pretend like I agree with your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 11:48 AM
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The women (and it’s most of us) who are attracted based on things other than “resources” Most women are unfortunately attracted to resources, the man is secondary. Which is how you end up writing little rants like this and actually thinking it’s true. It's actually true about most women and it's in line with evolutionary psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 11:46 AM
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A man is meant to make my life better, brokies tend to have a hard time meeting those expectations. Yes, and you're just following your programming so you can't help it. Once you evolve a little more, you'll realise that relationships aren't about money or getting resources from the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 11:44 AM
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When you assume things and you're completely wrong, you just make the other person not even take you seriously. You literally don't know what you're talking about, and you know it because you're just making an assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:06 PM
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The flipside is that if a woman likes a man she's going go all out and pursue you relentlessly. If she's not doing that, then she doesn't like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:43 AM
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No, they really don't. Men don't need to do anything at all. They literally can decide over night that women should have less rights and it would happen. So a woman saying men need to do anything is laughable. And whatever reproductive value you think you have, it's because of men 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:06 AM
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For 99% of human history and social evolution courtship, sex, and reproduction have been linked. And for about ~80% of people, those things continue to be linked. You still need to bring something to the table besides your eggs 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:45 AM
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I’m not even female. So then this whole conversation is meaningless. Literally every simp has spent thousands on their partner 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:17 AM
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Okay what does being an adult with a job have to do with anything? It means you don't need another adult to provide for you 🤦 Relationships are for connecting with another human being, not for you to get resources while pretending to like your human atm. When women had less rights and couldn't work, men were providing. That's where the whole thing came from because you literally had no money of your own 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:13 AM
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I financially provide and I spoil my baby with gifts. 🤷 I wish I believed you, but selfish women don't really provide anything for their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:11 AM
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Because if your going to get into a relationship with another person you should be able to financially provide for them No, thats not how relationships work. You want a human atm not a partner. By your logic, do you provide financially for your partner? Ofcourse not, you just want to use your partner for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:53 AM
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How is it superficial to want a provider? Because you're an adult with a job. Men for centuries said to women we provide and protect you god forbid a woman want to see it Men for centuries also gave women less rights, while they were providing for and "protecting" women..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:52 AM
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They aren't rare, there are literally billions of women who have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:37 AM
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But typically men are more into "the chase" specifically as the hunter. Only men with nothing going on psychologically. Women bring eggs to the table. What a strange way to view human relationships. Women bring eggs to the table so they don't need to be considerate, be less selfish or to bring anything else to the table, and they should be paid for their eggs? 😂 Eggs are much more valuable than sperm. One man can get several women pregnant while a woman can only be pregnant once at a time. So wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:37 AM
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Would you think it’s appropriate for a woman to completely neglect her appearance and just get really ugly and fat because “oh he won’t care, he loves me.” ?? Do women shower, do basic hygiene and take care of their bodies because of men? Also, why should she want financial compensation for staying healthy? What if she gains a little bit of weight and just doesn’t wanna wear makeup every now and then? I prefer women who wear no makeup at all. And not gaining weight is something you should do bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 07:06 AM
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women like to be won over. And men don't? Women think they're so special and unique when you really aren't. shoot yourself in the foot if you like, I'm not shooting myself in the foot. I'm purposely weeding out narcissists who want to be "won over" while bringing literally nothing to the table except a face full of makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 07:02 AM
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How is it a stupid standard? Because it's superficial and means nothing. Obviously it means a lot to them. Yeah, stupid people exist. That's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:01 AM
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That's a parasite not a genuine woman. Why should an adult be concerned about another adult providing for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:00 AM
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but its reasonable to expect a man to attempt at least some “whoo-ing” early on and in no way reflects a lack of female interest This isn't the 1920s, no one needs to be "whoo-ing" anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:57 AM
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I think it’s weird that a lot of you men spend all your time theorizing about what women think or desire instead of just asking them I know for a fact from my own experience that if a woman genuinely likes a man she won't care about free food and money. I think it's weird how you don't understand this simple concept. And I didn’t even mention the orgasm gap. Doesn’t matter which way you look at it, that’s unfair. If you want financial compensation for being with a man then just be single. No one…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:55 AM
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So basically, most women aren't actually beautiful, which is why they spend so much money on their looks. At least you're aware of it. Women should be less narcissistic since deep down they know they're ugly. The woman you think is “naturally beautiful” still spends at least 10 times more than you on her looks. And yet I still look better than her when I don't even wear makeup 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:59 AM
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There's no such thing as a "traditional woman". They are called actors. They just play a role in exchange for resources. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:56 AM
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he does not deserve any ounce of me The whole point is to weed out women like you who want a human atm. Don't you get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:51 AM
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Okay and how is that different from a woman looking for resources? It isn't. you're both superficial and your relationship will be fake. also has to show honesty, accountability, realness You want him to show these qualities and yet you lack all of them. You're not even real enough to be natural and not wear makeup and you're not even accountable for the food you eat 😂 but making him pay and invest is a womans best protection and guard to weed out pricks that only want one thing. Making him payi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:50 AM
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Does the woman have to pay for the man so that he feels loved? No, but she can atleast be considerate enough to pay her own bill so that he doesn't feel used. But you don't actually care about the man, you care about free food and resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:46 AM
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Affection and care shouldn’t flow one way in a relationship. Yes, that's my basically my whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:27 PM
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Investment is for business, not human relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 10:17 AM
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Are you someone who wouldn’t mind living in a cardboard box as long as you’re with the person you love? I don't live in a cardboard box now so why would I suddenly live in one just because I'm with a woman I love? Does she live in a cardboard box or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 10:16 AM
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The right relationship is 2 people who simp for one another. Sure, but my point is there's no "simping for each other" when the woman expects to be catered to, provided for and put on a pedestal and also has entitlement about it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 10:14 AM
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This obsession with being invested in is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 10:13 AM
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so there are no men out there that are only looking for sex and to use women for their bodies? There are and those men pay for dates because they know payment is the path of least resistance with women, unfortunately. Aren’t men wanting beauty and youth? They are, but they want real beauty and youth, not the type you get with makeup and plastic surgery. There are fake people everywhere, And many of them are women who expect payment for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:11 AM
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Is being romantic and generous to a lady you are interested in being a “simp?” How come you don't care about being romantic and generous towards a man you supposedly like? You want easy sex and you’re mad you can’t get it hence you write this post. Think about this logically. If I were desperate for women, would I really have made the post I did? The post is literally based on my own experience of women liking me without me having to pay for it. I could care less about sex, anyone can pay for it…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:08 AM
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Just because I want the man to court me, impress me and win me over at first like it’s always been? Yes. Maybe you are jealous of women? No, tbh I feel sorry for most women. You've been conditioned to be very basic and superficial. Even human connections are all about money and resources to you. That's pretty sad. The woman is the price, the man works for it. No, only simps and vain women think this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:37 AM
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but most women look for an emotional connection with their partner. Not really. They look for a man to get resources and special treatment from, the fake emotional connection depends on material things which makes it fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:34 AM
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Without him paying, I would be turned off like I said, even if I did like him a lot before. You didn't actually like him before. You just thought you did because you like how he looks. Your main interest in men is resources, not who they are as people. but because of the lack of effort to impress me. If he has self-respect, he would also be turned off by your entitlement and vanity. There's nothing impressive about paying for another superficial woman's bill. It wouldn’t be masculine to me and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:33 AM
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Nothing here is alike. Without him paying, how would you feel about him? making the man pay for the date, invest in you, put in effort to impress you, will weed out the men that only want sex and nothing else. You don't really understand how men think. Most men know to just pay, even those who hate women. So you're not weeding out anyone, you're behaving exactly the way men think you'll behave. Most men know women primarily care about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:10 AM
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What it is about is the effort on his half to impress the lady. This is what I mean when I say you're too self-centred. You want the man to show effort and yet you don't even put in enough effort to pay your own bill 🤦 Where's the femininity in that? It's not even considerate. No effort is a huge turn off. Money does not equal effort. It only seems like effort to women who have been programmed to think that money is the point of life and who have nothing going on psychologically except social co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:05 AM
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It means they don’t chase women, they are assigned them based on merit or characteristics Again, you don't know very much about other cultures and that's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:53 AM
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I still want to see him invest in me Part of the point of my post is so that men stop wasting time on women who enter relationships for business instead of for love and connection. Real men want a partner, not someone they have to financially invest in so they can pretend to be loving. court me and do his best to impress me. And what you do to impress him? You just exist and wear makeup 😂 If he is not paying on the first date, that is a clear sign to me he does not value me. Hopefully at some po…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:35 AM
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the majority of women want the man to pay. You mean women like using men for stuff? I'm so surprised 😂 The point is to not cater to that childish mentality. It doesn't go away if you encourage it. At some point women have to evolve and stop doing the same things they were doing when they had less rights, and you help them do that by not catering to their childish ideas and expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:27 AM
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Keyword-“was” Yes, just like women expecting men to pay will also be a thing of the past. Mainly because cash is going digital already, but I guess in the future you'll be dating men based on how much social credit they have 😂 Women who depend on men for resources and free food are an embarrassment for other women. Its 2025, be independent. Why choose to be a beggar?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:25 AM
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It also was a social norm for women to have less rights and to not be valued as human beings, but somehow you're able to see through those social norms...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:39 AM
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Demanding that a man pay for the food you eat is a stupid standard to have, but I get that materialistic women don't have a deep inner world so their standards will naturally amount to "He has to pay for my food or else I don't want to be with him". It's not about his character or who he is as a person. Nah, just the free food and resources is all that matters 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:35 AM
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Any woman looking for someone to use for resources will care, not a genuine woman looking for someone to connect with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:33 AM
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It's not a big deal. Seems like it is to you. paid for lunch and dinner for my bestie yesterday. 🤷 And do you expect them to pay for you and then drop them as friends if they don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:32 PM
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I'm not a broke woman. So paying your own lunch or dinner bill shouldn't be a big deal. Exactly why I date other adults. Don't adults pay for their own meals when they hang out? I'm pretty sure that's part of being an adult...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:42 PM
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Attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:40 PM
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l wonder why that is I meant that they were paying to make you like them because they know that if they don't pay, you won't like or care about them. This idea has been drilled into most men's heads, which is why some even insist heavily on paying. Unfortunately, most women don't really care about men, so they never make an effort to show them that they are valued for more than their resources. This is why I find it hard to believe when most women claim to love their partner. It's rarely ever ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:26 PM
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Strangers are not courting. On a date, they are. Am I dating a piller"is a very common question amongst women, after all Maybe it's just me, but that sounds like a question nobody has ever asked anyone. Normal guys do not worry about the cost of a cup of coffee. Neither do normal women 😂 Normal women don't mind paying for food they ate on a date because they are there for the connection not the free food.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:51 PM
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I didnt say anything about sex 😂 I'm sure they paid because you're so wonderfully amazing and interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:48 PM
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I don't like broke men That's very kind of you. Do you think men want to be with a broke woman who demands that they pay for stuff otherwise the relationship is over? Only men with no self-respect would be with such a woman. Your bills are your own business. You're an adult, remember? Once you move in together then obviously rent has to be paid, but this is obvious. if he can't pay for a first date, he's not the man for me. Its wont, not cant but i get your mentality because you're not looking f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:44 PM
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Paying on a date as a male is a kind gesture, True. Paying for food you eat as a human and not expecting someone else to do it is also a kind gesture. When you form a friendship or relationship the value cannot be measured. It seems like you've measured it just fine. To you, it's worth at least some free food and resources. Otherwise, the friendship just can't happen. You sound like a keeper (for a price ofcourse 😂) it is more expensive and time consuming to be a woman Expecting special treatmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:34 PM
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Two people chasing each other is ridiculous. There needs to be energy put towards the relationship, but that's not chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:32 PM
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I want a well off and successful man that wants to take care of me. So you don't really want a partner. You want an adult who will look after you while your mind stays vacant. I simply will no longer be attracted to him... Because it's not really about him. You only care about what he provides. He's just a replaceable atm to you. I'm not saying you should change your preference, I'm just pointing out what it actually is. It's fine to not want a real partner and to just want someone to do stuff f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:30 PM
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Every guy I have ever been on a date with, more than 100 men, has insisted on paying. I wonder why that is... It must be because men are very unselfish and altruistic 😂 always insisted on paying for at least my own half Atleast you insisted. Some women don't even bother, and some insist as a shit test to see if the man insists even more 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:02 PM
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Any women who follows this is an idiot Any woman who doesn't base her feelings towards a man on free food and resources is an idiot? Interesting... You must think prostitutes are very intelligent. is a sign that she is intelligent, It's the same thing women have been doing for hundreds of years because they couldn't make an income of their own. There's nothing intelligent about a woman being dependent for resources on a man. Women have been doing for ages and you had no choice. At some point, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:59 PM
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Then she can say no to the date. Women are adults capable of making decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:59 PM
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There is not a difference between being selfish and getting your needs met. Well, I guess putting on your breathing mask on a crashing plane first before helping others is selfish then. You not wanting to pay bc it’s unfair to you I don't care about it being unfair. I care that I'm on a date with someone who is already expecting me to pay for their stuff before even getting to know me. It gives parasitic vibes which is major turn off, for me atleast. Women who go 50/50 are usually trying to avoi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:56 PM

Make a point of not paying for dates OP. Considering my post, don't you think I'm already doing that? It's become just one more box to tick on the "am I on a date with a manosphere dude" checklist. Then you are someone who is relatively simple psychologically. You think being treated like an equal human means the man is a manosphere dude 😂 when online dating and meeting a stranger for the first time ask if you'd like to meet somewhere neutral and public That's what a date is 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:41 PM
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Yeh she's doing you a favour if she agrees to a date Look, if you feel women are doing you a favour by going on dates with you then that's fine. But the women I go on dates with are into it, and so they aren't doing me a favour. The whole point of asking someone on a first date is to attempt to hurry someone up to do something they aren't as willing to do as you are yet. For you, sure. For me, it's about seeing the woman is a good match.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:38 PM
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They kind of are doing you a favour though, No, they aren't. They're going on the date because they want to hang out with me. That's it. before they feel anywhere near as happy about going on that date as you feel about going on that date. You gotta get some self respect and realise that women aren't doing you favors by saying yes to a date. If you've been on two dates and have never kissed let alone shagged her and she phones you up and says help my car wont start and I need you to transport my…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:26 PM
0

everyone is selfish and self-serving, Like I said, speak for yourself. because being alive requires you serve your needs, Surely, you see a difference between someone taking care of their needs and being selfish. Sure, and I bet they thought that based on more than just him paying. If he hadn't paid they probably would've actually reconsidered "working" for him, and he knew it just like most men know to just pay. I bet he also feigned interest in their streaming careers and talked up how hot the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:22 PM
1

Everyone is selfish and self-serving Speak for yourself. since most women don’t think Andrew Tate is a good person Because of what's been revealed about him. He managed to get many pretty women to "work" for him, so they obviously thought he was a good person. you sure are making it the singular factor of interest when it isn’t No, I simply pointed out the entitlement of saying "If a man likes me, he'll pay for my food on dates". What's funny is I said if you genuinely liked him you wouldn't min…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:03 PM
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You aren't marketing yourself as a partner I don't market myself to anyone. I'm not an object to be bought. If anything, women should "market" themselves to me as partners. you are doing this masturbation thing with a big of a stick up your ass about not being taken advantage of, and it’s extremely obvious to anyone across the table. I don't know what any of this means.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:58 AM
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If they like you they do this. Again, even if a man hates women, he still pays because it's the path of least resistance with women. generally if a man likes a woman he does try to provide for her bc that is how most men are raised. And that's part of the problem. Women are adults, they don't need to be provided for. It's sad that women don't realise that men who think it's their role to provide for women also look down on them. Right-wing and "traditional" men are a great example of this. They'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:47 AM
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This food thing is symptomatic of your unwillingness to invest in anything And I guess you show your willingness by expecting men to pay? 😂 You're actually proving the point of my post. If I go on a date with a woman who asks why she should even care about me, and her feelings towards me are dependent on free food , I know she's not actually into me. I'm interested in psychologically mature women whose feelings towards me aren't dependent on payment. I want a partner, not someone in business loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:40 AM
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You make things way too complicated than they have to be. Women are just people, and you should treat them as such even if you're attracted to them. Women aren't doing you a favour when they go on a date with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:30 AM
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but if a man likes a woman he will also make it easy for her. Men generally do this already. will offer free dates or dates paid for, he’ll offer to pick her up, he’ll offer to help her out with little chores and errands See, it always ends up coming to women wanting men to cater to them. Rather than you saying "If I like a man, I won't mind paying for my own food," you say, "If a man likes me, he'll pay for my food". This is entitlement. men who paid for the first date showed they were more int…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:20 AM
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“Don’t care” is too loaded. Based on your own comment, it's true. It also seems to you free food plays a big role in your feelings towards men 😂 Just skip all the courting and propose on the first date, Marriage is for simps and psychological children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:12 AM
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During a first date a women is still making up her mind about you And I'm also doing the same. she needs to find something about you attractive for her to even bother. So do I.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:46 AM
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So you go on dates with men you don't care about?? it’s to figure out whether you see her as a long-term asset I see women as people not assets. and whether you are willing to be active in a relationship. So for you, free food helps you choose men to be in a relationship with? You gotta have higher standards. It's 2025, you can work and be independent now. It's not 1765.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:43 AM
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If a guy's a bum who wastes his time, she knows there's no future with him. Alot of women end up with bums, some of whom actually abuse them...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:14 AM
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You paying the bill at the end of the night factors into her impression of you. If during the date you're a great listener and you treat her well, her impression of you changing because she had to pay for food she ate is a sign she didn't really care about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:04 AM
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Yes, and those are the ones to avoid. You can weed them out by splitting the bill on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:01 AM
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You sound mad that I told the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:10 AM
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You're completely missing the point. We do not improve our personalities to get more men You do not improve your personalities at all. This is a male mentality Yes, becoming better humans is male mentality. Which is part of the problem. You think because you're a woman you don't have to be a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:37 PM
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No, I mean women in real life. You can pretend like women are deep thinkers if you like, though. Not sure what they point of that would be but you can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:03 PM
0

Okay, if you insist 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:57 PM
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I'm asking why you want to date women when you view them so negatively I don't want to date women. I stopped a while ago. Pointing out toxic behaviour isn't viewing people negatively. It's just pointing out toxic behaviors, but of course, simps and whiteknights can't understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:45 PM
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Sure. That doesn't make what I'm saying not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:43 PM
1

It was a rhetorical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:39 PM
1

They are in fact complaining about a personality. Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:35 PM
1

Because of the possibility of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:33 PM
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If you perceive the truth as being hate, then that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:31 PM
1

They are the minority. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:31 PM
0

No, to women it refers to money and physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:30 PM
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If you’re not even taking the time to get to know women I do take the time and more often than not, I either find out that there isn't much to know or there is someone who is selfish, greedy and entitled behind the makeup, lipstick and fake eye lashes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:28 PM
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Sounds like men are more self involved than women are. 🤷‍♀️ If you're a woman, you know that's not actually true. You know how self-centered women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:27 PM
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What you've said there about basic conversation is completely false and a pretty disgusting assertion. It's unfortunately true and most guys know it. Its basically like deep conversation is a turn off for most women. A man's best option is to keep the convo vapid and superficial and women will be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:08 PM
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And bigger problem, these dudes want to have kids and fall into traps with first women that gives them attention. And the childish romance is making them think the woman loves them. Yeah, this is one of the bigger issues. Alot of dudes don't even try to find out if the woman they're having kids with would make a good mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:14 PM
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but it doesn't mean they don't exist. I agree. They do exist but they are the minority. And if they point out how other women are they get called "pick-mes." Unfortunately for you though, it's useless to pretend like most women like philosophers or something in relation to their character and conversation. Most men know that to keep women's attention you have to keep the conversation at an extremely basic level.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:10 PM
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Complaining about “basic” women while implying they owe you some elevated personality just for existing What does this even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:06 PM
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complain about how low quality the average guy is. "Low quality" to most women means not attractive enough, doesn't have enough money and isn't willing to spend much money on them. It has nothing to do with men's personalities and character.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:05 PM
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Via what information did you make this assessment? Via talking to women and observing their collective behaviour. Calling the truth sexist doesn't stop it from being true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:03 PM
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you cant have standards if you dont have options. Yea, you can. The problem is dudes with no options are too thirsty to sit back and actually judge a woman based on her character.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:00 PM
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They are Sure. This is just like how every woman says their friends are hot. And I'm going go out on a limb and say I interact with far more women than you do on a daily basis A 12 year old is deep and interesting to another 12 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:51 PM
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None of the women I know are I'm sure all the women you know are very interesting, intelligent and interested in things beyond themselves...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:46 PM
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Same with men. But I don't see women making posts about men's character and personality...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:45 PM
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They believe good qualities to be virgins and looking thin and that's the problem with MEN largely Exactly. Most men's focus is on women's physical appearance rather than their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:38 PM
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Who told you that women think they do not need to improve on a psychological level ( They did, through their behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:34 PM
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A woman asks for a source Who do you think would fund studies based on what the post is about? 😂 Some things don't need an academic source. One can just use their eyes and observation skills. Just mass generalizations of women It's unfortunately an accurate generalisation. I wish it wasn't, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:32 PM
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Do you really think that women will start improving themselves just because men don't give them attention? Who cares if they don't??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:24 PM
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This is the answer I was expecting from you. It's unrealistic to expect you to self reflect or look at what is being said objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:23 PM
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Give me an example of lacking subsistence No interest in real things going on in the world. Most only care about themselves, makeup, shopping and what they can get materially from being in a relationship and so on. I'm sure you know all this already.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:21 PM
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when it comes to dating, most men just want sex and care about looks Hence the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:20 PM
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Aren't women going to therapy to become better people, Who told you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:19 PM
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There are plenty of women with great personalities There are some but not "plenty". The ones with great personalities are the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:18 PM
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I don't need to date most women to know what they're like. Talking to them, listening to what they say and observing their behaviour is enough. And your downvotes don't change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:17 PM
-4

All women are like this? Most are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:11 PM
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The entitlement, vanity, vapidness, selfishness, and lack of substance. I know I'll get downvotted, but you asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:08 PM
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That's not what the post is saying. Reread it from start to finish.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:03 PM
1

arranged marriages are still the norm in most recorded hunter-gatherer societies Name a few of these societies. I also don’t need to have family members to understand that arranged marriages are still prevalent among Muslim, South Asian, Middle Eastern and some African countries, which makes up a large proportion of the global population What does this have to do with men chasing women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:51 AM
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most marriages took place in tribes, communities and families, and those leaders acted as authorities Like I said, you need to read more. Just because you read an article doesnt mean you understand other cultures. Also, marriages happening in tribes doesn't mean that men chased women 🤦 Your own article literally says "However, marriage practices vary considerably from culture to culture, ranging from strict prescriptions and arranged marriages in some societies to mostly unregulated courtship in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 04:51 AM
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or bondage It actually is. Why do you think a contract is signed? 🤦 it’s about joining two people into one legal entity. Which is idiotic and only for people who don't understand that the government exists to control them. This is alot more obvious to black and brown people who have been actively oppressed by government.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 11:24 AM
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You gotta read more. For most of human history, men didn't chase women or feel the need to. Men and women just got together if they liked each other. No chasing necessary. It's a relatively new western thing that white men came up with because they had oppressed and dominated their women so they had to chase them to get their attention. In older and more grounded cultures, it wasn't uncommon for women to actually make the first move and go for what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 11:21 AM
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Get a dictionary and read it. Do you think the word "simping" is in the dictionary? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:28 AM
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But what does this have to do with a man kneeling and begging some woman to be with him until death? A relationship that last a long time without any of the people involved signing contracts about it means more than a relationship where people signed contracts to be together. There are men who ask women to marry them and then end up abusing them. So the whole performative marriage thing is literally meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:27 AM
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Great so it’s not too much for her to ask the man who wants to impregnate her to get down on one knee The fact that a woman would require this shows a deep sense of Inferiority and she obviously doesn't actually love the man she wants to marry. Why would she even ask him to do that? For what purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:59 AM
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What most people do is normal behavior, by definition So when slavery was legal, owning human beings was normal to you? but what I do to attract men involves being attractive And what does that mean? What do you do to attract men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:23 AM
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Blame biology, not me. Also, having children isn't a necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:28 AM
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Simping is normal behavior that requires effort, obviously It's not normal behaviour. Just because most men are simps doesn't mean its normal. I don’t do everything for men, but they’re always very clear that looks are the most important, and consistently confirm that So you work on no other aspect of yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:27 AM
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probably has more to do with societies idea of masculine and feminine What's masculine about kneeling and begging a woman to be with you until death?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:03 AM
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normal men put in effort to engage in normal attractive behaviors. I don't think this means anything. Why should women fight with them over that? So women only do things in relation to men? You don't work on your character and personality because men don't seem to care about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:31 AM
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In a loving relationship both people submit to eachother in some way. You share your deepest secrets and eachothers bodies. You can do this without all the performative marriage stuff. And many women have children with a man they love Not really. Many people just have children out of convenience and the need to have a mini version of themselves. Love rarely comes into it. There's a reason why divorce rates are so high and many men end up financially destroyed after being divorced by a woman they…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:23 AM
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Asking someone to be together forever has nothing to do with SIMPING. It's literally simping. Why would someone who isn't a simp do that? It's so absurd and ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:13 AM
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Guess most women want simps and most men want to be them. That's the point. but wanting to be in relationships with people isn’t simp behavior. Going down on your knee and asking another person to be with you until death is definitely simp behaviour. Why don't women do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:12 AM
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It’s seen as one of the most ultimate signs of commitment. It means nothing, hence the divorce rates. And who is usually the one to initiate divorce? If you don’t see it that ways that’s fine but don’t try and tell the people who do that they’re simping… They are though. There's a reason women don't get down on their knees and ask a man to be with them for eternity. They know doing that is beneath them. But they'll gladly let men do it while they look down on them (literally).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:10 AM
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You say simping, I say effort No, you said simping too because you know there's a difference between someone putting in effort and someone being a simp. You literally called simping normal conduct. If only women put more effort in other places besides their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:07 AM
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A simp isn’t a man in a happy, healthy reciprocal relationship who gets down on one knee to propose. It kinda is though. Him getting down on his knees to beg isn't even reciprocated. There's a reason women don't do it. Most think doing that is beneath them. But men being simps don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:06 AM
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You can go and live in places where simping isn’t normal conduct. Atleast you acknowledge that most men do it to the point where it's "normal conduct".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:03 AM
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Simping isn't a spectrum. It is and most men are on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:02 AM
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I simply asked a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:01 AM
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Simping is signing a contract vowing to love someone forever. If you want to be with someone then be with them. Why be weird about it and sign a contract involving the government in your relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:00 AM
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No, I just have observation skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:00 PM
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How is your comment relevant to anything said in the post? Put your white knight cape aside for a second and read the content of the post objectively and then reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:21 PM
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Didn't anyone ever tell you about what making assumptions does?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:09 PM
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So why not just say that you only mean some specific women? The post is about men. Perhaps I’ve been blessed to have known almost exclusively good women who wouldn’t entertain a simp instead of a man by their side. Most women entertain simps. In fact, almost every woman who gets married marries a simp. That's the only kind of man who is still asleep enough to not see through marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:47 AM
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Your whole premise is wrong. It's understandable that you think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:45 AM
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True. But everyone isn't a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:28 AM
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True. But it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:21 AM
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What do you think a simp is?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:14 AM
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I don’t think it aligns with the truth either. The key word is think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:14 AM
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You're not beating the simp allegations bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:13 AM
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You literally insult men who dare to get on bended knee to propose. No, I simply pointed out that this is simp behaviour. There's a reason men do it and women generally don't. Would you personally get down on your knees and ask a man to be with you until death?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:12 AM
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This video is so foreign from my own perspective that I reject it. Well, fortunately the truth doesn't have to be in alignment with your personal perspective for it to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:10 AM
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Are you asking if she would still be with me if I wasn’t nice to her? Do you not know what a simp is?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:10 AM
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I’ve never known a woman who would be happy to share her life and herself with a simp. You don't need to know of someone for them to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:09 AM
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Exactly what you said. The people who like it do so in a particular setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:08 AM
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at least in role play settings Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:02 AM
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I’m not sure I understand what you’re asking. If you weren't being a simp, would your partner still be with you? They do all kinds of nice shit for you. There's obviously a difference between this and simping. Surely you know this...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:02 AM
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Enjoying being a simp is like enjoying being a slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:01 AM
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Yet here YOU are telling men to look to you for validation. Can you quote something I said that indicates this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:00 AM
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Most men also enjoy it. That makes it even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:59 AM
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how is this not banned for misinformation or something? Maybe you should go cry at YouTube and they'll do something about it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:57 AM
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You didn't answer the question... Like, if you can’t simp for the woman you’re in love with, what’s the point of being in a relationship? And she "simps" for you too, I'm guessing 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:56 AM
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Marriage is simp behaviour? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:55 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:55 AM
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Y’all can stay single and miserable while my simp ass is happily having fun with her. So without simping, she wouldn't be with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:49 AM
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He wouldn't sign a contract or get married at all 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:48 AM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:48 AM
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Why would a government that steals your money and uses it to fund wars that kill innocent children want you to benefit from signing a 3 way contract that includes them? If they're offering you a reward or an incentive for it, that means on some level, you're being played 🤦 You think the same government that legalised slavery gives a fuck about you or your marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:47 AM
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But that “contract” is how you are given legally acknowledged priority to each other. What? That’s just what people who like romantic gestures do. Its what simps do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:42 AM
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Oh, I have been told by alpha males online that it does. Do you really think this is a valid source of information? Be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:40 AM
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He wouldn't do it at all. That's the point 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:39 AM
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As a sign of sincerity? So in every other context you're not sincere? Are you only sincere when on your knees? If a woman proposed to a man, is she simping too? This isn't the norm. And there's a reason for that. Women know how absurd it is to get down on one knee and ask some guy to be with them until death. They just won't admit it because they like looking down on men while men beg to be with them for eternity
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:38 AM
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There's no point in telling you what he would do. What would you do with that information? It's like asking what a human would do. If you have to ask, there's no point in telling you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:36 AM
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Please explain how kneeling for marriage is inherently simp behaviour? Why would you kneel to ask another human being to be with you until they die? Why even ask another human being that? It just shows that someone doesn't understand humans, particularly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:35 AM
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Of course, women will say a simp is a good husband. Being kind and generous in bed doesn't make someone a simp. The behaviour described in the post does.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:33 AM
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My thoughts are my own and do not reflect those of OP, they’re retarded. There's no need to call your thoughts mentally challenged bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:31 AM
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Read the first sentence of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:30 AM
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What would a non-simp do if he loved the woman he was dating? He would definitely not get down on his knee and ask her to sign a contract vowing to love him until she dies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:29 AM
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Do you not know the difference between a 30 second ejaculation and 9 months of pregnancy? What does this have to do with sperm coming from men and most women reproducing with men instead of doing it artificially?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:25 AM
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Nobody actually thinks chasing women means literally chasing them. Surely deep down you know that. There's no way you're actually that ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:12 PM
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Yeah, but most don't do that. That's the point. Also, where do you think the sperm comes from? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:08 AM
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In everyone’s experience. No, not mine. Trying to speak for someone else especially when that person has already said they've had different experiences is dumb and weird. In your world, if you don't chase women then they don't pay attention to you. In your experience, women dont go after you because they have options. That's unfortunate, but its fine and it's your experience, but that doesn't mean I or every other man has had similar experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:09 AM
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Women who have options don’t go after men. In your experience, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:18 AM
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then you won’t be seen as a provider. Why would I want to be seen as a provider by another adult? 😂 that will give them the ick too. Only if they dont like you to begin with. If they do, you are what they want and they will go after you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:44 AM
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Like I said in the post, I've had more success with no effort than I did with effort 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:39 AM
1

f you want kids you need a woman to give them to you, If a woman wants kids, she needs a man to give them to her to pass on her genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:09 AM
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Sure bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:42 AM
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but the word "chase" doesn't actually mean to chase a woman It's amazing that you think no one else knows this to the point where felt the need to say it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:42 AM
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If I talk to a woman I give her my number and leave the ball in her court. Imo this is the best way to deal with Exactly! It cuts through all the nonsense because if she texts you, you know she's interested, even if she starts playing games later on. It also makes you stand out because most men don't do that. Men are just so damn thirsty and simpish they would chase a female off a cliff by your 20s you should have outgrown that nonsense. If you have to chase her you'll always be chasing her So t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:40 AM
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Okay 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:06 PM
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Your privilege and mainstream bias is showing. No, if someone would rather die alone than be approached, they're obviously an idiot. Unless you meant something. That's also an ad hominem, not an arguement I wasn't making an argument. It was a statement. there are no women interested in them So the women become magically interested once they start chasing? "just be attractive" Reading the post will show you that I literally said I don't look any special way, which is the opposite of "just be attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:01 PM
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So how do you attract women? Why are they approaching you? They don't necessarily approach me. It's just that when I'm around women in social settings, that's when the connection happens without me trying to be liked but just being natural. Because many men would sooner die alone than have women approach them. Then they're obviously idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:26 PM
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None of this changes the fact that its unnatural and unnecessary to chase women. which induces differences in behaviour Difference in behaviour are caused by social conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:08 AM
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I would never advise to just lean back and hope that a woman i liked would have the balls to approach me. That's great, and it makes sense because you are your own person. That is suboptimal and just an avoidance of confronting your issues. If you approach women to confront your issues you should probably leave women alone until you address your issues rather than depending on women to help you address them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:35 AM
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It's not my fault that you don't have a point 🤷‍♂️ You said: This gives, "I see MMA fighters drowning in pussy (they aren't), so I'm obviously right," vibes. What kind of idiotic point is this? And: I'd be willing to bet your concept of masculinity is also incredibly skewed What kind of point is this? It's an assumption, not a point. So please enlighten me, what's the point of anything you said?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:20 AM
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You wouldn't have better results if you weren't insecure. What? Because you would do both things at the same time. I don't want to. Your whole comment is just you projecting. It seems you have issues with insecurity so you project that onto me and start talking as if you know me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:02 AM
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Men chase women to put their penises inside them, and if you wont, someone else will. And what I'm saying chasing isn't necessary to be able to do that. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:00 AM
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What works for you may not work for others. It does work for others when they try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:59 AM
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Because chasing really means to actively display and prove that you are a better option then the other men she could show interest in. All those other men chase as well. It doesn't prove much. Women inherently prefer the man to make the first move because it signifies confidence and strength, qualities necessary to being a protector and provider No, they want men to make the first move because they're cowards. That's it. Any other reason is just nonsense. The provider and protector isn't going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:56 AM
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you missed the point, brother There wasn't much of a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:49 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:52 PM
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You are insecure. No, not really. I've just realised that I have better results with less effort 🤷‍♂️ For men who are not as crippled as you are, it's better to approach, be the active part and risk more rejection, because they also get more success that way, that with your approach. If most men could put in less effort and still attract women, if they have a brain, they would choose that option.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:51 PM
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But what does that have to do with women being as good protectors as men? It's not a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:48 PM
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So you think women are just as good at protecting? Interesting. Why would the people who carry a child inside of them for 9 months not be able to protect it? Even when seeing men as the providers and protectors, at some point women had to be alone and be able to protect their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:39 PM
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Okay, I guess you're just too smart for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:26 PM
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When you are approached by a woman, you feel good about yourself, flattered, you know she is interested and you don't fear rejection. You can appear as confident and be unaffected by negative thoughts that distract you from presenting yourself in a good light. This lowers rejection rate both by changes in your behavior as well as because the sample of women you interact with has a way lower rate of not initially being interested in you. In other words, you have the upperhand. You're starting to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:15 PM
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What point were you making?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:12 PM
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This gives, "I see MMA fighters drowning in pussy (they aren't), so I'm obviously right," vibes. I don't care for MMA. I've literally never watched a single fight. I'm talking about "vibes" in the way women would talk about vibes. It's not about physical activities but the actual feeling of being with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:11 PM
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Women can’t chase as easily. They can. They just want you to think they can't. If you mean initiate with a woman who you like based on her looks and personality, where you break it off if she’s not right for you? This isn't chasing. Chasing implies you putting in alot of effort to keep her interested and doing things you normally wouldn't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:07 PM
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In pretty much every culture, men do the initiating, courting and competing, as well as proving fitness through acts of competence, aggression, and reckless disregard of bodily wellbeing, aka rites of passage/tests of manhood No, this is only in Western cultures. Other cultures (before western influence) saw women as equals, like ancient African cultures, and it would've made no sense for a man to play the active role while the woman is just passive when there were literally female warriors and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:02 PM
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But if you think about the actual first step, the man's job is to be magnetic. Well, technically, I don't think it's the man's job to be anything. But I've read your whole comment, and I see where you're coming from. The man's job is to put himself in a situation where he is noticed. Create opportunity and be approachable. Put out the bait. Yes, if you're gonna play the game to some extent, this is the best approach. Men have been conditioned to chase the bait, but being the one putting out the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:52 PM
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A particular group of men's culture, sure. The majority of men through out history have seen women as just other human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:39 PM
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In your comments you’ve said married women have approached you just to talk. No, I said they've initiated conversations. Surely you can see the difference. I already had their numbers and they would text me first.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:37 PM
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This is just what horny men have told you. How else would you know it, if they didn't tell you? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:36 PM
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It's naturals for animals, not humans with intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:35 PM
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And who decides that? Men. Once upon a time, men decided that women should have less rights, regardless of the fact that they get pregnant and it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:34 PM
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The point is just because something is "dominant" that doesn't mean that it's good. It just means you've been conditioned to like it because it's "dominant".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:32 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:23 PM
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This is because women are hypergamous, so a man has to actually put some effort into demonstrating his true value But if she's hypergamous, doesn't this mean she's always looking to get a better partner? And doesn't this mean you'd be just a placeholder?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:15 PM
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He's just throwing this weird "masculine energy will naturally get you women" vibe, which is problematic thinking at best. It will though, if you're authentically masculine. That's just how things work in the dating realm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:13 PM
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A number she got herself certainly doesn't have the same meaning as a guy getting a number. Exactly! This is why I think its best to give women your number rather than asking for theirs. Most men ask women for their number, but its very rare for a man to give them his number. So by doing it, you naturally stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:07 PM
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You're assuming every man is inapt and gives everything for a woman's looks. Well, most do, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:04 PM
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Sure, but if they drop at your feet, that happened naturally, unless you forced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:59 PM
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but a lot of women aren’t really “followers” of the men we date lol Well, you are to an extent. Which is why the whole idea of men being "leaders" and "providers" exists. Obviously women don't need leaders and providers, but they choose to need them. Neither person should have to chase the other. If you’re interested, ask someone out. If they’re not interested, don’t chase. I agree. But also, it works out better when women are the ones chasing 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:57 PM
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Nothing comes to you naturally Well, for my experience, this isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:54 PM
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Well, you don't know them so your words don't actually mean anything. But keep chasing women. I'm sure at some point you'll catch one after she gets tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:39 PM
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Then he stays alone. This is much better for his peace of mind. Or perhaps not trying actually means you are more yourself and that's attractive.. Yeah, this is probably it, but it still proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:37 PM
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Yeah, they hook up with her with no effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:36 PM
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Only If you lack real intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:35 PM
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Sitting around cause your only options are the people who come up to you is wild. You don't have to sit around. You can just live your life. Whenever I hooked up with a woman who initiated, I was occupied with other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:34 PM
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Once you become a real man, you realise that you don't have to sit around and wait for women. You live your live and they come into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:33 PM
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What was the point you were trying to illustrate with it? That chasing women is illogical. The leader isn't going to chase the follower. That's absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:31 PM
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and even sometimes we are not aware we are ruled by it. Then, obviously, in those moments, intelligence is lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:29 PM
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Any relationship I’ve ever been in, she was the one interested. It always works better when she's more interested than you, but most men don't get it. They've been conditioned to think that they must chase and try hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:28 PM
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was never into the women who approached me first, Then keep chasing. Good luck to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:25 PM
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Which you posed as a reason why men shouldn’t be the ones to initiate. No, it was an example to illustrate a point. I’m saying that it’s not a relevant question, rhetorical or not. It's very relevant. It makes no sense for the leader (man) to chase a follower (woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:25 PM
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Being intelligent means transcending the animal part and not being ruled by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:23 PM
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men want women more than women want men. This is also unnatural. if they want to see a woman more than the woman wants to see a man, he has to make the initial effort. If a man wants to see a woman more than she wants to see him, he has already lost. Making the initial effort is accepting that she doesn't really like him. but I also recognise that my experience is that of a less attractive woman. Well, I'm a man, and I don't think I'm that attractive, and yet I've had more "success" when I'm not…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:20 PM
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Yes, it is. You've just been programmed to think it doesn't "say" that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:16 PM
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Not the intelligent ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:16 PM
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Taking any initiative or doing any approaching is chasing my guy. I personally know it isn't since I've had women initiate convos with me when they weren't chasing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:15 PM
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Are you an animal or an intelligent human being?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:14 PM
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Okay, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:13 PM
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initiating a conversation with someone is not the same as chasing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:13 PM
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It was a rhetorical question...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:55 AM
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You’re not literally chasing women down the street as they run away from you in fear, dude. You’re “chasing” by asking her to spend some time with you to see if you both like each other. If she says no, you move on. Oh okay. Thanks for clarifying. I had no idea. I thought chasing meant literally chasing women like some kind of animal. Silly me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:55 AM
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Do you really think its necessary to tell me this like I don't already know?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:53 AM
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Do you really think its necessary to tell me this like I don't already know?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:53 AM
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Rape is also a dominant thing to do but that's not appropriate behaviour 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:52 AM
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Chasing women isn’t acting "appropriately" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:37 AM
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You can, without chasing or simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:36 AM
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They don't believe that by themselves. Women help them by playing the part.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:15 AM
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The point was initiating conversation doesn't indicate romantic interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:10 AM
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Or you just stop wasting time and realize she’s not going to be interested in you, That's part of not chasing 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:10 AM
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It really depends on if you're an animal or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:09 AM
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It's also a suitable coping narrative for desperate and insecure men. Yeah, I'm sure men who are insecure are saying chasing women is unnatural and that they've had more success when they don't chase. That makes complete sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:07 AM
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Because neither group wanted you as a partner.. so of course they don't chase you, duh. And yet they still initiated conversation, which is my point 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:05 AM
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This is a recipe for being fast-tracked to the friendzone Not really. And the "friendzone" isn't actually bad if you're not dumb enough to place all your eggs in one basket. Being friends with women can help you meet more women you're more compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:04 AM
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If you don't have enough intelligence to pick a boyfriend that isn't a danger to you, no one can help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:02 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:44 AM
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Should they be?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:41 AM
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Just did it last week, I saw a guy wearing a company shirt I used to work for. Turns out he’s working with my old foreman, and we each bought a round for one another at the bar. Did you want to date him?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:34 AM
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but... this is chasing... No, it isn't. I've had dudes I became friends with initiate conversations with me, and they clearly weren't chasing me. There's a difference between chasing someone and initiating a convo by saying "Hi". Even married women have initiated convos with me, and they weren't chasing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:32 AM
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YOU are the prize 🏆 This is something most men don't get.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:30 AM
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What is your claim even trying to make here? Literally the title and content of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:29 AM
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They aren't that too far apart. You wouldn't approach a guy and start a convo with him, would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:29 AM
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Seems like a lot of extra steps to say you’re scared of rejection and wish it didn’t fall on men. You can call it whatever you like, but it has worked for me. And I didn't start doing it because it "works". Idk any male animals in the wild Are you an animal in the wild?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:27 AM
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I haven't been counting but more than 5. Tbh, everytime I've been with a woman, it was because I wasn't trying. Whenever I try, it generally doesn't work out, and when it does, it's not as fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:25 AM
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I feel its pretty natural for me to shower 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:24 AM
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Well, no because it's possible to not chase women and still initiate a conversation when appropriate. Unless a woman is completely dead inside, if she likes a man, she'll also make some kind of effort. And if she can't, she's not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:22 AM
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Right, but how often does that actually happen? It happens through you realising that women are literally just people. How they look doesn't mean they aren't garbage people. Once you acknowledge this, you just move naturally and talk to women just like you talk to anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:20 AM
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Not really. The less work put in, the better. Women actually feel more connected to a guy if they're the ones putting in the work. I shouldn't have to tell you this since you're supposedly a woman. I'm speaking from my own experience, and I'm not even that attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:15 AM
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if you see a woman you’re interested in, why would you wait to go after her and potentially lose her to someone else? It literally doesn't matter because if she doesn't like you nothing will happen. On the other hand, if you're intelligent and know not to chase, you can place yourself in a situation where she'll notice you and engage with you without having to chase, if she actually likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:13 AM
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Exactly! It's so obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:10 AM
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You didn't summarise anything. You literally just made up a quote, and you know you did 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:36 AM
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Observation is a primary source of many things Exactly 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:01 AM
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Why do you think men get married? It's to have a relatively permanent source of self-worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:11 AM
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It's like you can't fathom the idea of someone observing human behaviour and then writing about it without approval from academics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:10 AM
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Well, fortunately, what i wrote is still there for anyone to read, and reading it makes it obvious that your quote was fake and you were unable to understand what's written.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:09 AM
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I've read it and this is what you're basically saying It literally isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:42 AM
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Really? Only young people think men's sense of self worth is tied to how women see them? Are you sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:23 AM
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Men's sense of success with women depends on how successful they're with women Nobody could have guessed! Who are quoting? I literally never said this 😂. It doesn't even make sense. Please actually read the post and quote something I actually said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:20 AM
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Says who? Me, clearly 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:00 AM
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What study?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:09 AM
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Women having inherent psychological power over men is not something we could or should change, "Women having psychological power over me is something I shouldn't change." - You
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:08 AM
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Do they, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:04 PM
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That's not even the real quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:21 PM
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Which pill is the one that says focus on yourself and ignore these hoes? The black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:44 PM
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Reread your comment I was responding to and then reread my response.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:57 AM
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Don’t let outsides sources you can’t control affect your inner world/peace. Ignore those types of woman. Ofcourse, but that's not the point. It's like if you were to point out how many men use women for their bodies and I were to say "not everyone is going to like you..." That would be missing the point, wouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 01:58 AM
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Nothing about the average woman. The average woman has been conditioned to focus primarily on their physical appearance. These men are not getting used Many men are getting used to relationships. Some end up finding out later that they were being used. so not all women wears it. Sure. But the overwhelming majority do. This is undeniable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:36 AM
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Like what for example? Use a quote I wrote or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:29 AM
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The average woman wears makeup sometimes Most of the time. You’re literally talking instagram/trophy wife levels of appearance management No. You should actually reread what I wrote. We do not have the fucking time to put on a full face of makeup every day. The post isn't even about makeup. That was just an example that took like 2 lines in a post with multiple paragraphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 09:58 AM
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the ‘average woman’ does not Yeah, they do. Maybe they don't post pictures on instagram, but they definitely wear makeup. But feel free to pretend like they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 04:30 AM
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Men that are into women that dress and look like models know exactly what they’re getting into. The post didn't mention models. It's about the average woman. A woman that looks like a Victoria Secret model is a trophy and sign of status. There’s no victims or naive innocents here. The post doesn't even mention physical appearance. You can diss women that like to dress up all you want but I bet if one even gave you a look you’ll be joining in on the “chase”. I think you're confused. The post isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:52 AM
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These guys thinking that instagram models represent all, or even a majority, of women😂 The post doesn't even mention instagram models. Just because a woman post pictures on instagram doesn't mean she's an instagram model. The average woman posts pictures on instagram and wears makeup so I don't know what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:47 AM
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Yes, and?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:30 AM
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It depends on what they're caring about. Caring about the basic stuff everyone cares about is the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:41 PM
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The idea that millions of men around the world currently buried to the hilt in the woman they love or even merely like should just pull out, get dressed, and stomp away because a handful of bossy, miserable men said so is fucking hilarious. What's hilarious is you being so ridiculous and absurd in the purposeful misinterpretation of the post. Why even bother commenting? 😂 Just keep scrolling and ignore the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:39 PM
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and yell about it for a few years. Pointing out why more men should stop chasing women isn't yelling about anything. You only called it that because you can't actually address anything in the post. So you just call it yelling and feel like you actually did something.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:33 PM
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I didn't say it will.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:31 PM
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You don’t think caring about jobs/research/family/hobbies more than lashes shows their character? No, because most NPCs care about those things. Even Ted Bundy probably cared about those things. It doesn't mean much. Caring about those things is the default human state.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:03 PM
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you seem unwilling to actually talk about the (essence of) your comments Quote something I said that isn't true and provide a critique of it. If I'm wrong, this is your way to prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:00 PM
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Antinatalism is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 11:59 AM
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Imo robots and AI will fill that coming void. You are correct. You should look into transhumanism. Eventually, humanity is actually going to merge with A.I and human relationships won't be as much of a thing anymore. Marriage was always about resources. True. As for the undesired men they should use hypergamy and go to where they would be valued like the ME, SA, and SEA. Use those resources to find a wife overseas. In my opinion, all men, not just the undesirable ones should stop chasing women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 11:59 AM
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It's no different than dating men. Many of the single ones are superficial and only care about sex. Far enough. I don't have a side, but since I'm attracted to women, my post is naturally going to be about them. If you do online dating try being really specific in your profile about what qualities you do want, make it easier for them to find you. Nah, I don't bother with online dating. Or dating in general anymore. My post is basically directed to men who are still chasing women, thinking they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 11:55 AM
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If you dont like superficial people weed them out. The point is the overwhelming majority of women are superficial people. Trying to have deep conversations of substance with them is a waste of time, and most don't care about objective things enough to think deeply about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 10:57 AM
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You really didn't, because you can't since what I'm saying is objectively true about an overwhelming number of women. All you could do was quote things I didn't even say 😂. That says alot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 10:55 AM
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Then you’re dealing with the wrong women. Sure. The point is the majority of women, particularly younger ones, are "the wrong women". care way more about their job/research/family/hobbies than lashes I didn't say anything in the post about women caring about lashes more than other things. and I’ve never met anyone who actually draws on their brows Well, they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 10:53 AM
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If instathots feel vapid to you, I'm not on instagram. My post is based on women in real life. Women not on insta are also vapid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 10:33 AM
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Try actually addressing what I said and point out how it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 10:30 AM

You know this isn't true, but I guess someone has to be the whiteknight.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 10:24 AM
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Okay, but that's not what she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 10:23 AM
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“Women only care about their looks and have no personalities or inner qualities” That's not even the real quote 😂 girls have no hobbies” Who are you quoting? 🤣 “I don’t think women who wear false lashes are capable of having personalities” Who do you keep quoting? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 10:22 AM

Okay 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:25 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:15 AM
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I like how comment on my post to tell me to do something the post is saying, and you think you're actually doing something 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:05 AM
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It can be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:04 AM
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That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:55 AM
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Your post is full of very subjective personalized subjective opinion Sounds very subjective 😂 ...And yet many people have resonated with it so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:47 AM
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Surely you can see the difference between me expressing my opinion on a debate sub and you choosing to comment on the post...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:46 AM
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No What are you saying no to? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:45 AM
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Men have been conditioned to think that their appearance is all that matters and they don’t work on their personality or inner qualities. But this is objectively false 😂 Women who chase men Women generally don't chase men, and you know this. Men wear makeup Please stop 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:44 AM
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If anything, men use women. Some do. But if the majority did, women would turn down marriage proposals in large numbers. But the reality is many women will actually breakup with a guy because he didn't propose in the time they thought he should.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:43 AM
-1

I didn't get that memo You did. It's called relationships and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:33 AM

Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:32 AM
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But why bother others with this nonsense? Why be bothered by it? Just ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:32 AM
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Like I said, it doesn't work because men don't wear makeup and fake eye lashes, or use women for resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:31 AM
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The "attempts" are because mgtow subs end up getting banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:11 AM
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You have an agenda Obviously. It's literally in the title of the post 🤦 you don't want to actually go your own way. That's interesting because I'm already going my own way. The post isn't about me. Why would I post something about me specifically on a debate sub full of people who don't know me? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:10 AM
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There are no "mgtow attempts". You either go your own way or you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:07 AM
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You wouldn't be saying that if you had the ability to attract women into your life. I don't even need to chase women to get their attention. Nice try though. The only men who will "go their own way" will be those unattractive low-value men who were sent their own way by women. Keep telling yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:02 AM

Okay, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:33 AM
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Bro calling all women superficial bimbos is not genuine criticism, The only person who used the words "superficial bimbos" is you. The post doesn't even say all women. How is anyone supposed to “address” what you said when it’s a load of nonsense You quote something I said that you think is wrong and actually explain why it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:46 AM
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Your entire thesis is based on a false premise And what's that premise?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:40 AM
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real women aren't fake instagram models and influencers. I didn't know this either. Thanks for clearing it up for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:37 AM
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I read the entire comment, nothing you said actually addresses the points made in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:36 AM
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I probably talk to more women in a day than you do in a week And?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:34 AM
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Really? I didn't know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:32 AM

Either you didn't actually read the post or you didn't understand what you read and felt the need to be a whiteknight.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:32 AM

Wow, I hadn't thought of that. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:02 AM
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Just to be clear, we're absolutely not conditioned that way. You are. It's so obvious just from observing women's way of being and talking to them. it's ***men doing the conditioning It's society. Mothers also teach their daughters to be superficial. What was confusing about what I said? You should try slowly rereading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:01 AM
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Reverse women to men in the text and see if that helps. That doesn't work because the behaviour being described is how women act. Maybe you could make a similar post about me and see how that goes 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:58 AM
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I didn't know this sub was a space specifically for women...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:57 AM
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Why comment on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:47 AM
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That’s demonstrably untrue. You proved it with your initial comment. You didn't even bother to address what was said. You just went straight for the misogyny card.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:46 AM
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it bothers men deeply when women just reject all men and say fuck it I don't care about women rejecting men. I've also rejected women, even ones i found attractive due to their personalities. it's part of life. The post doesn't even mention dating or rejection. If you read the post you'll notice that it's about women's inner qualities, not rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:43 AM
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Men: lol we literally don't care about anything about women other than being hot and young You: Women have been conditioned to think their looks are all that matters, and so they don't work on their personalities or inner qualities. What does what men who aren't me have to do with what I said? There couldn't be a clearer example of the idea most of this bitterness isn't about women being delusional, or trying to date "out of our league" What?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:41 AM
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Okay, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:38 AM

Like what’s the point of this post? None, which is why you should ignore it and move on. But you couldn't do that...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:37 AM
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Unfortunately, you've been conditioned to think any critique of women is misogyny. This also stops you from growing because it makes you disregard valid points. I understand, though, that it feels better to just call someone misogynistic than to actually address the things they said. This way, you protect your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:36 AM
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Don't threaten with going away. Where in the post did I do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:34 AM
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Okay, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:17 AM
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Okay, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:12 AM
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they’re doing it to stand out from the competition. How does doing something that every other guy does make anyone stand out from the competition? In fact, not paying is what actually stands out since most men just pay because it's the path of least resistance when it comes to most women. it started because women didn’t have their own money, now they do. That's what's even more absurd about it. Women hold on to a tradition that started because they had literally less rights. But because this asp…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:58 PM
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Are you specifically saying that you oppose traditional relationships? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:37 PM
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It’s about “if he was really interested in me he would pay for it.” I know. That's why I mentioned how many women are self-centered. They don't consider that the man also wants to know they're interested. From his perspective, she's not even interested in him enough to not mind paying for her own food. Not even his. But women don't care because they don't gain anything by actually considering men's feelings and perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:47 AM
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All men have those same expectations. Well, I don't. That's why I made the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:07 AM
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It sounds like you're agreeing with the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:42 AM
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Then why bother coming to the sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:48 AM
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come up with excuses for why women won’t date/have sex with him. Women literally accept payment for sex. Having sex with them doesn't mean much or add value to anyone's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:17 AM
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The other group is willing to dedicate their entire lives to their husband and their children. Just like people dedicate their lives to a job they get paid to do. That's all it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:15 AM
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What is the point exactly? Read the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:00 AM
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Reread the comment you're responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:00 AM
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But if they choose broke dudes who can’t pay for a date, but he’s really a nice guy, they would be choosing correctly because then she won’t be abused. These are your words, not mine.which is why you can't quote where I said this. Your entire comment is a form of projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:59 AM
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You're missing the point, probably on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:55 AM
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Reread the comment you're responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:33 AM
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They're not really that different. The ones who want a traditional provider are just better actors.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:29 AM
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The guy who pays for dinner is dramatically less likely to be abusive Any man who has experience with women knows the best approach is to pay, even if he hates them. Do you think someone like Andrew Tate doesn't pay for dates? and believes going on a date is like being a prostitute. Requiring payment makes it prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:28 AM
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Again, women wouldn't end up in abusive relationships if the abusive men didn't pay for dates. The lack of payment would turn them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:26 AM
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No I'm just implying that it's not nearly as common as you and some others believe. Okay, so they do exist then. We just disagree on the percentage. Many of them will first say the same thing about other women being gold diggers. But when I ask them more, they admit they've never actually known any gold diggers personally. Right...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:18 AM
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If you're asking where they are this implies you think they don't exist. Pretending like women who use men for resources don't exist is an interesting approach. Especially since some women even openly admit to using men 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:03 AM
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I didn't say they don't exist. Do they exist or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:53 AM
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I know, when I say all men are rapists and violent, I get a ton of men coming out of the woodwork to scream Not All Men!! If it wasn’t true, there would be no reason for them to call me a bitter feminist! What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:53 AM
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Ok, and I don’t get the connection. You don't have to get the connection of something for it to be true. There’s no reasonable connection between “men make money” and “women gotta be their obedient servants”. This is because you don't actually understand how men think. Which is why you’re so hopping mad at women whose social conditioning has shown them that men who think they are “born to be a provider” aren’t worth it. Pointing out shitty behaviour isn't the same as being mad about it. I get th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:51 AM
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But most women don’t want a transactional relationship built on a man being a human atm They actually do. Women themselves will tell you that relationships are transactional. but the rest of us are looking for an egalitarian relationship where we do for each other because we want to and care about the other persons happiness This is actually a minority of women. A dude paying for a date isn’t mandatory. It almost is when women's feeling towards a man are dependent on him paying. Or only date wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:41 AM
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Wouldn't it be in the man's best interest that she just go rather than leading him on? Wouldn't it be in the woman's interest to behave like an equal adult and pay for her own food, this way she can just go without using another human being for free food?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:37 AM
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Most women don’t want to get all dressed up and sit through awkward conversation with a man they’re not interested in just for a free meal. You would be surprised. Without the free meal, they lose interest, which ofcourse means the interest wasn't really there in the first place. There's a reason women make a big deal about paying for their own meals on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:18 AM
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You can pretend that women don't use men for resources all you like, but anyone who has experience with women knows they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:16 AM
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Where are these women wanting a man to provide for them? I like how dudes on reddit pretend like women who want resources from men don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:14 AM
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I think you missed the part where I was answering a specific question that was asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:45 AM
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My argument is that it does not make logical sense to believe that subservience is the only possible thing a woman could offer of value. What I'm telling you is that whether it makes logical sense or not, most men who think they were born to be providers will expect you to k ey and submit. They don't want material things or money from you, you can't give them anything on the material level they can't get themselves so all that's left is them having power over you. There is no logical reason why …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:49 PM
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and emasculating Don't you ever wonder why men find a woman paying for her own food emasculating? Isn't this a sign of how much they've been programmed to be providers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:42 PM
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it’s MEN who are transactional, not women? Expecting payment to go on a date is transactional. Men's transactionalism is a reaction to women being transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:57 PM
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There’s simply no logical reason why “man with paycheck” implies “woman must be subservient”. I didn't say it's the implication. I said if someone pays for something, they're going to expect something in return. This is very simple to understand. if the vast majority of women don’t want that deal, then he’s gonna have a very hard time finding Mrs Subservient. And yet its relatively easy to find such a woman as long as a man pays and provides resources. I can’t imagine wanting to have a partnersh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:53 PM
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In other words they vet these dudes and will reject them. If they did, they wouldn't end up in abusive relationships or in relationships where they don't actually care about the man but just use him for resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:17 PM
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I'm also not sure why you think women are stupid Most people are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:16 PM
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They provide because they enjoy taking care of people. This is naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:46 AM
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They want someone with the characteristics of a provider. That's a superficial characteristic. Like I said in the post, many men who think their role is to provide think women's role is to submit and stay in the house and not even have the right to vote. the vast majority of these men are good at hiding their true nature. That's the point 🤦 so judging them by whether or not they give you resources is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:45 AM
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And how would these women not having a backbone and boundaries exactly help? They wouldn't enter the relationship in the first place since they'd be judging a man on his character not whether he pays for their food or not. You are arguing that these women need to put out and give back what these types of men want. No. That's not what I'm saying at all. If it is what I'm saying, quote where is said it. Also these women also keep character in mind. I know they don't because if they did, they would…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:37 AM
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Not all women think alike Most do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:35 AM
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The point is what women think, not whether it's true or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:27 AM
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and there aren't any real victims. Except the women who end up in abusive relationships because their way of filtering men is judging them based on resources, not their character 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:26 AM
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How, exactly, does one go on a date without hanging out with the person for a while? Some women may choose to leave early because they aren't interested or they just wanted free food. Even I've been on dates so boring that I decided to leave early.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:19 AM
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Paying for date doesn't make you a provider. The women who want a provider expect men to pay for dates because it's an indication that he's willing to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:08 AM
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Women do get abused, and what bothers me most about it is knowing how avoidable dating abusive men is if women just focused on a man's character rather than resources, material things and ego strokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:54 AM
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Or do you claim they won’t date you because you’re short and too nice? I'm actually pretty tall and don't need to chase women to get them interested in me. Also, notice how you didn't answer the question...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:51 AM
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and not thinking American conservative bubble on twitter=reality I'm not conservative or American or on twitter or tiktok or instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:50 AM
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If you’re a twat or jerk or unappealing you won’t get a second date either. Right... Men who just want sex would find paying for it more enjoyable, Yes, and they do that by paying for dates because it's a more acceptable version of prostitution 🤦 It's sad how little you understand about men. especially if it takes more than 3 dates to get sex 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:35 AM
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Does the one guy I mentioned prove something about most men? Is it the norm for men to want a provider or for women? Do men normally expect men to pay for dates or do women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:33 AM
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And that one woman doesn't tell us anything about "most women" which is what you are claiming. And yet I mentioned most women before she even commented, and she proceeded to prove my point. Which shows that those women are very common. I dated a guy who wanted to sit at home playing video games all day and expected me to work and pay the bills. You dated him know this about him? You can pretend all you like but we both know it's common for women to look for resources from the men they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:23 AM
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The lazy and hostile usually won’t bother. Like I've already told you, any man who has been on more than one date with a woman know that paying is the easiest way for women to like him, or rather to act like they do. It's like saying lazy men won't bother paying for prostitutes. It makes no sense. So? He’s up front about what he is, and the women who are with him agree with him. Like I said in the post, the self centeredness and entitlement is stopping you from seeing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:22 AM
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Again, most men know the best approach is to pay. So even the lazy and hostile ones will pay because it's how they get women 🤦 Do you think someone like Andrew Tate, who said women are barely sentient didn't pay for dates when he was recruiting all those women? If he hadn't paid, they probably would've refused.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:12 AM
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You consider “romance” a resource that women extract from men? I never even said the word romance. I said resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:11 AM
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Times have changed and women now don't need men to provide all the money, And yet woman still look for money in a man. One women in the comments even said she uses money and men paying for dates as a way to filter them 😂 "most women" are focused on getting money from men, in 2025, is nonsense and you know it. I didnt actually say they're focused in getting money. I said they're focused on getting resources. They may not focus on getting actual cash, but they definitely look for resources in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:08 AM
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It’s a filtering device Oh wow 😂 no wonder why some women end up with abusive boyfriends. Any man who has experience with women knows the path of least resistance is paying. It doesn't filter out anyone 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:03 AM
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Sounds like you think women are evil based on their behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:01 AM
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He’s paying for the opportunity, aka the date, not sex A woman who requires payment to give a man the "opportunity" is essentially a prostitute. Also, you're missing the point. If a man pays, even if it's for an opportunity to be with a woman who's a carbon copy of other women, he's still going to expect something in return. Unfortunately, the self centeredness and entitlement stops you from understanding this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:00 AM
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Where did I say that? So they do exist then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:53 AM
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So women who want providers and expect men to pay for dates don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:52 AM
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having a romantic relationship Exactly. Part of this is getting resources in some way, shape, or form.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:51 AM
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And yet you said "This is a conversation for a very specific crowd." If it's not true then why would it be a conversation for any crowd?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:45 AM
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More like,5-10% lol This is wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:40 AM
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What you posted is nothing more than bitter ranting. This is just your opinion. If what i wrote didnt apply to you or to most women, you wouldn't feel the need to call it bitter since it's actually true and applies to many women. What's bitter about me saying if a woman expects a man to provide, that man will expect something in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:39 AM
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that are not looking for a man to provide for them. Many women , including in this sub are looking for a man to provide for them, even if it's expecting men to pay for dates, which I know many women in this sub expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:36 AM
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I don’t think about the money. But women do. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:12 AM
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I still pay because it’s tradition Do you know why its tradition? and shows confidence/willingness to lead. Any idiot can pay for a date. In fact, most do. Isn't this obvious to you? Any idiot knows the path of least resistance with women is to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 02:57 PM
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It doesn't change that it does have an impact on mindset and how we approach dating even today. Ofcourse it does. That's why you think men have to pay for dates to be with you. It's not an original thought. It's a result of social conditioning when you had less rights and were oppressed. I can’t afford to go out. A little empathy would help you see that many men are in a similar position. I make this clear and men have no problem with it. Ofcourse. They obviously know that your feelings towards …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 04:54 AM
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you’re not paying for sex. Then what's the payment for?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:46 AM
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Because men like to fuck and run, So instead of choosing better men, you accept payment for sex before they fuck and run? Also, if women are so amazing, why would men fuck and run? Wouldn't they wanna stay?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:40 AM
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There is a culture around dating in every society. Do you know when the idea of men paying for dates started? When women had less rights and weren't even allowed to work and therefore literally couldn't afford to pay. Don't you ever wonder why some men feel less masculine when they don't pay? Don't you think it's strange that their sense of masculinity is tied to paying for what women eat, even when you had less rights? and if he is chivalrous. 'Chivalry' has been changed to mean catering to wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:36 AM
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If you’re so broke that paying for a date or two a week makes such a big dent that you need to think this hard about it, This is funny because of the lack of self awareness. A woman who expects random men to pay for her is the broke one, and if she isnt broke, she's a leech which is unattractive, atleast to me. or you’re too broke to be thinking about dating And yet the woman who expect random men to pay their way aren't. It's truly amazing how your brain works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:03 AM
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I wouldn’t really be interested in a man who orders separate checks after the first date. Then you are who the approach is supposed to weed out. I would take it as a sign of disinterest and maybe he doesn’t really see me as worthy of effort. This is a result of your conditioning and inability to empathise with men. If you could empathise with them, you'd consider how a man might feel knowing your feelings towards him are dependent on him paying for dates. With empathy, you'd be able to understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:00 AM
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Dating isn’t prostitution, So why do require payment? And are against free sex? I don't think you understand what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 02:55 AM
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To sit through an awkward dinner with someone you already know you don't like. Do you go on dates with people you already know you don't like? Maybe you do for the free food. I don't. I go on dates to find out if I genuinely like that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 02:53 AM
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You paying for their food doesn't impress them since literally every simp does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 02:52 AM
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Nope. We’re not gay men What? 😂 Also, it seems you don't realise that many women like having sex without being in a relationship with a man. And I'm not even talking about formal prostitutes. We want relationships Not really. You want someone to use for resources which is why a man paying for your food and other stuff is a big deal to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 02:51 AM
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I know, because you're thinking about it from a selfish perspective. I'm not convinced that a genuine woman who isn't a leech would care about paying for food she ate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 01:38 AM
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And women don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 01:36 AM
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just so she can sit with guy she doesn't like so she can save 10 Eur for dinner The fact that many women have an issue with paying for their own dinner (not even the man's) shows that free food plays a part in it, otherwise it wouldn't matter. They may rationalise it to themselves some other way, but at the end of the day, their feelings towards a man are dependent on money/resources, and the free food is just an expression of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:06 PM
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If I didn't I would put them on a pedestal and apply a different standard to them than I do men. The problem is many women don't actually want to be treated as equals. They want to be treated like they're special.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:03 PM
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You'd rather get paid for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:01 PM
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If you see paying for food that you ate as a shit test then this is like a conversation between a child and an adult. Adults are fine paying for their meals, children on the other hand have a problem with it. Even Schopenhauer said women are children, you're proving him right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:15 PM
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I don't think you know what an authentic woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:22 PM
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Who said only women can test men? 😂 Also, if you think paying for your own food is a shit test then you are a child who the "shit test" is designed for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:20 PM
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maybe you should stop dating Maybe women should stop dating until they mature enough to be okay with being treated as equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:16 PM
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So don't have dates that include food. Again, the point is to find out if the woman is an adult that's okay with paying for the food she eats. This shouldn't be an issue when dealing with equal adults
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:03 PM
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That's what a date is for. Yes, hence the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:45 PM
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The best way for men to weed out inauthentic women is to have dates that don't involve food. This doesn't weed them out since you still don't know if they're the kind of people who have a problem with paying for food they eat. The best way for men to weed out inauthentic women is to avoid using online dating. I don't use online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:35 PM
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This weird manipulative form of investigation is a red flag dude. Ironically, you're the one actually being manipulative by the words you're using, like I'm supposed to care that some random thinks something is a redflag. If you think letting a woman pay for her own food is manipulative then good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:33 PM
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Unfortunately, empathy can't be bought.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:16 PM
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You know I'm right. You've been conditioned to think it's men's role to spend money on you, and because of your lack of empathy you're not able to put yourself in their shoes and feel what it's like to be expected to be used as a human atm just because of your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:55 PM
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EVERY guy insisted that he pay for the date despite my offers up front. I I've already mentioned this in the comments. Obviously if someone insists on paying then that's fine. But some men also insist because some women like to pretend to pay for themselves as a test and if he let's them pay, she drops them. Pretty heartless but that's what some women are like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:47 PM
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I shouldn't need to ask an adult if they're okay with paying for food going into their own mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:44 PM
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Then just say that rather than acting like you're too high and mighty to pay for your own food.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:43 PM
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No man should ever bring up sex, sleeping over, or anything more physical than kissing before marriage. Everytime I hooked up with a woman, she initiated it, so obviously women also want these things, so your approach is pretty silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:42 PM
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It’s amazing that I had to discuss with men that I would not be physically intimate with them or kiss them on a first date. Just like women shouldn't have to be told that they'll pay for food they eat, men shouldn't have to be told this either. Ironically, one of the reasons men expect this is because they paid. So women play themselves in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:38 PM
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but this is something that you can and should discuss before the outing to save everyone’s time. It's amazing that men have to discuss payment with women before hanging out with them. This doesn't happen between equal human beings, only when it comes to women and prostitutes, apparently. Very interesting and revealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:32 PM
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If you offer a cheap, free, split the bill date then SHES NOT GOING!!!! It's almost like for women, it's all about free food and resources than it is about connecting with another human being...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:26 PM
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No, because you won't know if she's okay with paying for her own food on dates or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:49 AM
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have a problem with how tacky your approach is, My approach is to let a woman pay for her own food just like I let my friends pay for their own food. If that's tack to you, that's a reflection of your own state of consciousness. and how you are making a deliberate point to say “I’m not paying for you.” I don't say any of that just like I don't tell my friends that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:44 AM
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misleading people isn't treating them as equals. How is allowing someone to pay for their own food misleading them? you also haven't asked the question What question do you want me to ask? but agrees to pay since she already went down there and is thinking it's just a one off. This never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:41 AM
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Why go have dinner and spend money if the vibe isn’t there? I didn't say anything about dinner, you just assumed. I didn't mention what type of order to get separately. that you have to think up strategies regarding it. I didn't know being an adult that pays for their food is some kind of strategy, but I guess it is when dealing with women who are supposedly equal. think she might be a freeloader, If she wasn't on some level, she wouldn't be bothered. It’s a bad look even to someone who would no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:39 AM
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So why not have a talk about it before eating, so that you could weed them out earlier? Because I think discussing payment before hanging out with someone is for when dealing with prostitutes. But I should probably start treating women as such, based on what you're saying. Imagine ordering food and eating it and then being shocked about paying for it. Women are amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:34 AM
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Most men don't aim to go on dates with women who want to use them. They only find out the women want to use them when they don't spend money on them and their whole demands changes. It's actually a sad commentary on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:32 AM
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Is buying a girl an appetiser going to mean you don’t make rent? Is her paying for her own stuff gonna mean she doesn't make rent?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:28 AM
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I always pay my own way So why should you have e a problem with paying your own way on a first date? Something isn't adding up is so off putting that I wouldn’t go out with him again. That's okay. The whole point is to weed out inauthentic women, so the process would be working as intended. Any woman who finds paying for her own food to be off putting is exactly who I want to weed out. I'm interested in a human connection with a real human being, not someone so superficial that paying for their …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:27 AM
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Or you can understand that what is obvious to one is not obvious to the other I would think paying for food you eat would be obvious to any adult. But I think the issue is most so-called women aren't adults. They are still little girls psychologically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:23 AM
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So you’re putting the tiny minority of chicks looking for a free meal at Cheesecake Factory, vs the overwhelming majority who’d like to make some kind of human connection. Like I said in the post, even the ones not looking specifically for free food still want a man to spend money on them. The free food is just an indicator that they'll be able to use him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:21 AM
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It’s a waste of your time and energy. Most dates are a waste of time and energy for men. It comes with dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:20 AM
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It doesn't have to be, just like domestic abuse doesn't have to be a problem for me personally to point it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:19 AM
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why would you not just be upfront with your expectations? Because I see women as equals and treat them as such. Maybe I should change and start infantalising them. what do you actually tell these women The same thing you tell your friends when you go out for lunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:18 AM
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.you think women don't buy their men dinner or gifts? You're talking about a long-term relationship. I'm talking about initial dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:16 AM
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Why do you expect others to have your expectations, while disregarding the ecpectations that other might have? Unfortunately, I just expect women to behave like equal adults who are used to paying for food that goes into their mouth. Maybe I should start seeing them as people who aren't equal and treat them accordingly 🤷‍♂️ There are a lot of adults who have resentment over not having their expectations met. Those are children. Especially if they have resentment over paying for food that they at…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:15 AM
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Waste time by spending a mealtime with someone you are not interested in. If I wasn't interested I wouldn't go on the date. And if she's isn't interested and requires free food, she shouldn't go on the date. It's very simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:11 AM
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are you also saying you don't tell women beforehand If women are to be seen and treated as equal human beings, why would it be necessary to tell them that they'll pay for food they eat? I don't do that with men because we're equal adults who understand that adults pay for food they eat. Why do women need a discussion about paying for their own food? Are they equal human beings or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:10 AM
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I think expecting to date someone without romantic gestures, gifts, and wooing is actually the entitled bit. As if women do any of this 😂. Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:07 AM
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you will face consequences based on the prevailing norms. The consequences are weeding out inauthentic women, which is the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:06 AM
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