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In my experience, once the female ‘checks out’ of the relationship, or when she doesn’t try at all to make things work, putting all the responsibility on the male, or even when she becomes unacceptably disrespectful- it’s not worth continuing on the man’s side. This makes things pretty simple though; the woman either ‘acts right’ or doesn’t, and when you see that sign of disrespect and/or indifference that you cannot accept, just close the relationship down like a business that no longer makes a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:57 PM
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Sounds funny but this is genius! Even if it’s BS, if you frame it like this i think it would get under the girl’s skin a bit and you yourself don’t take an ego state hit.. kind of a funny way to end the interaction on top. ‘actually I agree, not feeling that spark, better to call it off now’
/r/seduction17/05/26 10:41 PM
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I can say from experiences that I’ve had with relationships that I personally would be careful about someone in a relationship that has had many partners especially casual fwb or ONS, or anything that would qualify as advanced sexual exploration. Romantic relationship frame: • romantic sexual relationships are kind of like the movies, you and your partner have to suspend disbelief a bit and buy into the magical world of romantic love together, and the idea that you are the only person in the wor…
/r/seduction24/03/26 01:26 PM
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Not completely ignoring you. Any attention seeking behavior, listening to you talk or having eyes on you for more than a half second
/r/seduction07/01/26 03:55 AM
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If you actually want to have high quality sex with a girl who is decently attractive and well proportioned for sex you’re gonna have to actually try hard at it and make it a hobby. Start with the hobby of lifting weights, expand the hobby into fixing your style and optimizing your vibe and personality for attracting people. First, no excuses- you simply HAVE TO lift weights, to add muscle to your frame, if you have not yet filled out your natural form. It’s also important to be fairly lean and n…
/r/seduction04/01/26 07:32 PM
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OP understands the female perspective of the issue: that women are attracted more to guys who don’t need to ‘work on themselves’ because the guy who just looks good is the guy who has the good genes. It’s more of an illusion though; they want the lean tall guy with muscle on his frame and natural confidence who is just born like that, not the guy who obsessed about gym progress and diet to reach that same level of physical excellence. The trick is to be the guy who lifts weights and diets but hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:59 PM
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Just do what he said; open up more conversations with the general public starting with the lowest risk people like the old lady who works at the grocery store, the guy that cuts your hair, the workers at your gym, etc. Just always be working on the social skill of chatting with random strangers, giving value to them and don’t try to ‘get something’ out of the interaction other than just interact with them, show genuine interest in their lives, and hope to leave them with a good impression of you…
/r/seduction07/08/25 06:32 PM
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This is the way
/r/seduction05/08/25 05:10 PM
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Maybe say it died if she asks about it
/r/seduction20/07/25 10:15 PM
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It’s tough because if you are up front about only wanting casual, the girl will likely pull away and there you are, holding your dick. Masturbation alone in your room instead of pumping her amazing pussy, instead of her little ass bouncing on you it’s gonna be someone else’s to enjoy… but hey you did the right thing and told the truth… meanwhile the next guy is already on the way to her place to pick up your slack and will be balls deep later tonight. It kind of trains you to lead them on, tell …
/r/seduction13/05/25 04:08 AM
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Is it possible to make some kind of legal statement about that and have a girl sign it? Basically state something like we’re both adults consenting to sex and also rough sex acts, emotional manipulation, consensual non consent, etc. is all part of the deal for this type of no sex life that we consent to and sign off on, so future litigation is possible.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/25 05:35 PM
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There’s nothing ‘wrong’ with any man who wishes to be intimate with a young women, provided she is older than the state’s age of consent. Look at most men with that option, powerful men, celebrities with money and influence etc. Most of them choose a young woman about as young as they can legally have, like 18-22 range.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:12 PM
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I think that with some younger girls, some immature tendencies become amplified a bit for example they may have a really short attention span, be on their phones more, give less attention in general, act kind of rude and be more immature with texting and require perfect ‘text game’ to keep the conversation going. Now you may find the same problems with a 35 year old woman but in general the 19 year old girl may be more likely to have these maturity issues.
/r/seduction26/04/25 03:41 AM
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It’s only a cope but you are free to choose to cope in that way if it makes you feel better. The truth is, in the natural world, no man with power and influence would choose a 30+ woman over a late teen or early 20’s girl provided that is in the same league regarding looks and genetics. Younger is better, just like bigger is better for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:19 PM

There’s a law that decides that in the U.S. the age of consent is 18 I believe. In some other countries it’s lower, Philippines for example is 12 and a lot of parts of the world it is 15 or 16. That’s the only rule that is enforceable so any other noise or idea about age gap doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:17 PM
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It would be cool if tinder etc had some kind of rating system so a girl that flakes a lot on dates would end up with a negative karma or something like that. Also some way of knowing if she hooks up a lot more than she says would be nice to know so you can treat her accordingly
/r/seduction14/04/25 02:43 PM
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Ok are you saying to set up the date not via text but verbally on a phone call? I like that idea
/r/seduction14/04/25 02:33 PM
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You mention waiting for her to arrive and then walking in right after her to avoid awkward moments. Can you break this technique down with examples? I imagine you set a date at a bar or restaurant or coffee shop, you somehow wait nearby unseen but with a view of the entrance, watch her walk up to the entrance and enter, then you jump up and walk in just a moment later? Do you wait more than a minute to make her feel slightly uncomfortable in the place? Seems like a good strategy to make it feel …
/r/seduction13/04/25 01:55 PM
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Curious about how to recover from her thinking that you are homosexual? Can you recover by saying something along the lines of ‘haha jk I’m not gay’ right away?! For example I think that most women would just question whether you’re really gay and probably imagine you in some gay bottom situation and lose attraction VERY quickly, as they picture you taking it up the butt or sucking a D and acting even more BETA than even the most BETA straight guy, or maybe assume that you are Bi at the very lea…
/r/seduction11/04/25 02:58 PM
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Good points. I should probably point out that I date both good girls, those I deem worthy of a relationship, with integrity and respect… but also I supplement with bad girls, those that I think are hot but not worthy of a relationship with me in particular. Girls that are toxic can also be hot, some of the best sex I’ve ever had. Anyway not every date needs to be for finding ‘the one’ I go with the strategy of meeting and dating anyone I’m very attracted to and later seeing if they prove themsel…
/r/seduction04/04/25 10:32 PM
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I agree with that sentiment in the case that I’ve met a nice pretty girl with presumed low body count, trad wife values, etc. that I want a relationship with, and in that case I would definitely play the long game and not feel entitled to sex. I’d wait 2 or 3 dates before pushing for it… But I’m talking about sluts, aka promiscuous night club baddies that you just want to get on a date and into a hotel room for a night. In this case I do want to exchange a fun night on a date for the ONS.
/r/seduction04/04/25 10:27 PM
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The fact that she can gatekeep the sex and if I don’t play my cards right I can potentially go home with no sex after having paid money and effort
/r/seduction04/04/25 08:33 PM
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I planned a dinner date because the country I’m vacationing in is reasonably priced even for nice restaurants. The issue is, even if I tell the girl I don’t want to drink, if she’s a party nightclub style girl she just pushes the alcohol agenda and we end up at the end of the night with 6 or more drinks in us. I don’t want to be too much of a drill Sargent so I go with the flow and get the ONS, but looking for ways to shut it down without too much pushback
/r/seduction04/04/25 08:31 PM
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Yes I know that’s the way but I’m struggling to find those activities that puts me and her in a chill place with time to connect. It seems like the only option is to go get dinner together which isn’t too expensive (I’m in a cheap country on vacation dinners are like $10 per person) but that can get out of hand if the girl wants drinks, and to extend the date to a nightclub and continue drinking. Like I said, I closed a ONS doing this recently but it still cost too much, was annoying to be at a …
/r/seduction04/04/25 08:27 PM
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It isn’t a confidence issue at all, what I want is to set the date up with activities aren’t annoying to me, and helps me close the deal without having alcohol in my system when I finally get her into bed. If anything it’s more over confident to say something that sets the rules up; ‘no phones, no alcohol, we’re gonna spend a small amount of money and I’m expecting to get you into bed at the end’
/r/seduction04/04/25 07:09 PM
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I’ve had this come up a lot, it’s like a shit test. If I go with ‘looking for a good connection and see where it goes’ they definitely won’t buy it anymore because they’ve heard that same thing from other guys who just want to keep it casual. I’m not going to say ‘I’m looking for a relationship’ because it’s not true- for example if I end up in a relationship it’s because I went after a hookup but somehow the girl proved herself in some way that makes me want to stay with her. I wonder if just b…
/r/seduction04/04/25 01:37 PM
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Ha well when you said ‘literal baby factory’ you made me think- yeah it’s dumb to cum unprotected in a girl I can agree with you there. I just think it would also be nice to have some insurance for men, because practically everyone is going to slip up just once or sometimes. A lot of guys depend on the pull out method for example, which is dumb but still maybe in the heat of the moment their lizard brain is like “come on bro yolo just pull out, it worked last time!” Maybe they start without a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 10:42 PM
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I’m saying that in a general sense this is happening often. It’s like a deception play that women hold in their back pocket, an ace card they can pull on a dude to f him over and ruin his life on a whim. It goes like this; she says she’ll take plan B, or says she takes her BC, or just agrees that in the event of pregnancy she’ll get an abortion… then when he slips up just once and gets her knocked up she changes her tune.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 10:18 PM
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I think you’re missing the point I’m making. I’m saying that as a man, I want to have safe sex backed up with a contract of some kind that says basically ’whatever happens in the heat of the moment, let’s agree beforehand that we aren’t in it to start a family, and that while we agree to that now, if the woman later changes her mind and won’t abort, I’m clear and it’s 100% her responsibility ’
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 04:15 PM
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Well that’s also a very bad outcome for one person who doesn’t want anything more than sexual release in the moment. As a man I want to be able to have a conversation and ideally a contract in place to avoid both situations, because I see it like exploitation of the fact that men ‘need sex’ and therefor can be tricked into parenthood or financial responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:58 PM
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A similar situation actually happened to some guys I know and I think it’s fairly common, and imo it’s an abuse of a one sided law that heavily favors female consent and doesn’t recognize the man’s rights. It’s literally like a scam that they run: • Woman says ‘I’m on the pill so let’s have sex without condoms it feels better!’ It’s very seductive in the moment and the man consents with the pretext that he is having ‘safe sex’ with her and maybe they have a long relationship with lots of this se…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:47 PM
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You should be able to make a contract with a women about this issue and basically state that whatever happens, you don’t consent to participate in a parenthood, if she still wants to engage in sex with you after that and gets pregnant the man should be able to say sorry we already have an agreement about this I didn’t consent to starting a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:35 PM
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Under the current laws yes, it’s foolish to nut in a woman. However it is very deceptive and should be illegal for a woman to claim she’s on birth control or promise to take plan B and then say ‘nah I want the pregnancy now’!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:32 PM
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People saying it’s his responsibility aren’t considering the fact that the laws about this heavily favor the woman. They need to change the law so that women can’t baby-trap a man in this way. It’s one thing to have unprotected sex and later say oops we have a responsibility now, it’s a different thing all together if the woman assures the man she’s on the pill (or will take plan b) and they have sex under this pretext, then later she says she’s keeping the pregnancy. There should not be an oppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:29 PM
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The point I’m making is literally every single woman acts like this in modern relationships. In other words it’s understandable when men hit a point where they don’t want to get taken advantage of anymore. Relationships are cooked, just smash bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:59 PM
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On the other hand it’s usually females who cause problems, are hypergamous, and break up the relationship, play deception games, ghost and block and move on quickly. Men who’ve been burned a few times being the ethical one in romance get the idea that abandoning romance ethics is the only way to not get burned emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:41 PM
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I’m a transcendent man driven by the will to power, and I prioritize my own enjoyment and independence above everything else. I reject societal cooperation, familial responsibilities, and sacrifice—those are burdens for women and beta men—while I embrace my identity as an alpha warrior, focusing only on my own power, influence, and pleasure. I admit this selfish stance goes against mainstream values, so I keep it to myself, sharing it only anonymously.
/r/RedPillWomen30/03/25 02:57 PM
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I agree with this strategy and want to get a nice clone of a Rolex and maybe one other luxury brand. I don’t know why your post got so much push back it’s probably from guys who don’t pull casual sex partners and just being haters. Guys who don’t have a history of hookups and short term relationships will cope and virtue signal a lot more than natural alpha player types who know what’s up. If the strategy is, just have flings and casual partners, get them into your bed by any means possible- who…
/r/TheRedPill28/03/25 01:29 PM
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Was thinking about tweaking it a bit and instead just joke about if she’s not married yet she must be a virgin… ‘Are you married?’ Her: ‘No’ ‘Oh nice so you’re a virgin!’ Her: hahahaha omg eye roll “I’m not a virgin!” frame change, she has had premarital sex before = price drop, Ho-flation bubble popped, she’s just another girl that has sex with guys who say the right lines and act alpha
/r/seduction06/03/25 12:55 AM
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Because the man wants to believe that the women desires him physically and she’s not just in the relationship because he is the responsible dependable man that was perhaps the least desirable of her options
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:42 PM
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The cold hard truth is that she is way too obese… and what makes it much worse is she probably thinks that she is in good enough shape to be attractive due to toxic positivity culture. She’s about 100lbs heavier than what anyone would realistically be ok with. But secondly, her attitude and personality is not attractive, it’s actually the opposite (repulsive) … Why? Assertiveness, confidence, loudness, brashness, etc. are all masculine traits. I like when women are more feminine in their persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:02 PM
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I should have been more clear: High quality girls (for me) = very desirable hot gym girl body, petite, short, under 135lbs, excellent booty and hourglass curves, feminine style, pretty face, decent personality, 20’s to early 30’s, no kids Hook up girls (for me) = typical non gym girl body, chubby or just not super sexy physique, average height or taller. unremarkable yet decent booty, some fun or beautiful features mixed with some flaws . Pretty face or average face. Includes single moms mid 30’…
/r/seduction03/09/24 06:46 AM
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To be honest with you the height difference makes it very much not worth the effort or even a second thought. I’m a (not tall, just average height) man with experience in dating and hookups (5-6 serious LTR and about 60 casual sex encounters) so I can speak on this if you want to hear. I personally would not be interested in anything with a woman who is equal to my height and above my height is just an immediate no. I will date girls who are ‘just’ an inch or two shorter than me but it’s not my …
/r/seduction27/06/24 03:26 PM
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Awesome and thanks for the critique, this is what I’m looking for! Definitely blew it with the bad plan, then doubled down with not being able to secure a table at the second pizza restaurant… kinda looking like a dumbass having to walk back to the third option which was very basic local food but not a bad atmosphere… we were mostly alone surrounded by a garden so it was not a terrible spot to get to know each other…. But Lol lesson learned. I did get a free 10 minute walk to the pizza place and…
/r/seduction28/02/24 04:37 PM
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I can offer a different perspective. I’m a man who has been able to ‘get sex’ or as I would say I’ve been able to enter both casual and serious relationships all my life and that has resulted in me being ‘given’ sex. Anyway, the idea that women are punching up that OP outlined is true in my opinion. Also- When I’ve wanted casual easy sex I’ve punched down and it is very effective, let’s say I’m a 7-8 in terms of attraction… if I want some super easy sex i can get just about any 4-6 girl or woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:38 PM
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