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1

Did he date anyone famous before Ariana? If not, why did she date him?
/r/seduction04/08/22 05:17 PM
1

That Colin Jost was already taken?
/r/seduction04/08/22 05:16 PM
42

That's prime boob fondling time you're missing out on if you don't cuddle afterwards.
/r/seduction10/07/22 05:31 AM
1

The idea height matters between gay men is insane, because, like, there's no preexisting context for it. If you're the more feminine guy, then it literally just adheres to the existing gender norms. Like, what does it mean when 2 straight guys are different heights? It certainly doesn't mean anything sexual.
/r/seduction29/06/22 11:04 PM
1

Pretty sure he was getting pretty rapey. But that's just the opinion I held 2 years ago, don't think I've kept up on it since then.
/r/seduction07/05/22 07:29 PM
2

Why is that what you imagine a clown doing?
/r/seduction25/10/21 02:51 PM
3

That's not true, why even would it be true? That mindset honestly sounds incredibly toxic, it'll lead you to thinking women are required to rely on you instead of having autonomy. Marriage rates have declined due to economic reasons, not the number of employed women.
/r/seduction06/10/21 01:09 AM
5

But why is that shameful? It's true. Your value to society is not dictated by how many people you fuck. I also can't grow my own food, is it shameful for me to go to a grocery store? The point of society is that every person does not have to be great at every thing. Just find a place you are valuable and do that well.
/r/seduction05/10/21 10:27 PM
6

It's not because of women in the work force, it's because the average worker has no power over his own life. Pay is down drastically from the 80s and as a result, most people can't afford to get married or have a kid.
/r/seduction05/10/21 10:25 PM
1

Virginity is made up, you'll do a lot better in general if you don't let society dictate what is important to you.
/r/seduction05/10/21 10:20 PM
1

I didn't say anything about female judges. Men are more likely than women to be imprisoned for (presumably every?) crime, thus the fact that Weinstein still didn't get prosecuted earlier despite that fact shows that society is massively slanted in favor of people who are like Weinstein. Part of that is that it's slanted towards rich people, and white people, but also towards men. The anecdote shows that someone who committed a large number of very brazen offenses, and who is also in a group who …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/21 02:41 PM
1

Doesn't that only speak to my point?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/21 01:38 AM
-1

Society is absolutely male dominated, I mean shit, it took until like 5 years ago for Harvey fucking Weinstein to be thrown in jail.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/21 05:41 AM
-3

But again, why is it an issue that he thinks you're being an alt right pipeline? Just don't be one. No reason to ban him over that. Personally I agree with that guy that the ban message IS an indictment of the mods here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/21 09:36 AM
-4

And which groups are those exactly? What does it mean, in your opinion, to oppose men's advocacy? Like, I could certainly imagine the breitbarts and daily mails of the world calling their propaganda about Matt Gaetz's "situation" "Men's Advocacy". So if that's what these groups oppose, then I as a man would obviously support their opposition to it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/21 09:33 AM
-8

Why would I care if they do that? That's what I would expect them to do. It's only an issue if the subs aren't actually hate subs. Is that what you're claiming? If so, prove it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/21 09:26 AM
-7

That's clearly entirely different, A) pedophilia is far, far worse than acting in bad faith is, B) physical neighbors are far different from random redditors, and C), what a sub is is subjective and subject to change, as well as being very easy to perceive. You can't perceive someone's status as a pedophile.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/21 09:25 AM
-7

If you don't want people to think you're an alright pipeline, just, don't be one. I'm only here from that dudes post, wanted to see for myself. If he's wrong, people will come here and see that he's wrong. So I don't see what your issue with it is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/21 01:47 AM
4

It's very important knowledge to have. Dating is a team sport, she wants to go home a winner as much as you do. Many parts of getting good are just learning how to help her feel good about the next step. You can't possibly win if she loses, and you wouldn't want to anyway (assuming you were both capable of consent at the time). Sometimes people change their opinion on what is considered a win the next day or next week, but at the time all involved will always consider it a win.
/r/seduction16/06/21 05:21 AM
1

I made the mistake once of bringing up "my number" with a girl I was sleeping with once, which caused her to turn our soon to be ongoing thing into a one time thing. It actually kind of seems like, at least in the circles I travel in, guys get slut shamed more frequently than girls do. Mainly because basically no one I know would do it to a girl. I think your example speaks to people not realizing that any situation they might be involved in, everyone around them is in too. The girl probably tho…
/r/seduction01/04/21 12:37 AM
2

I bet OP says this kind of thing to all the subs.
/r/seduction21/03/21 05:56 PM
7

Even if this is 100% true, this is a very toxic mindset. You'll be much better off assuming you're wrong about that, and just not letting girls rejections get to you, because they aren't actually personal.
/r/seduction30/01/21 11:15 AM
17

Best thing I took away from Model's was the logic regarding assumptions about women. If you assume that women don't play games, the fail rate you sign up for is accidentally blowing off interested girls, who will usually adjust or let you reject them. So it's by far the best to assume attraction and that nobody you meet is playing games.
/r/seduction30/01/21 11:13 AM
1

Today's culture is incredibly toxic to anybody trying to create their own happiness. If a company didn't sell it to you, how can we know its legitimate? The fact is, the people who talk the most about "freedom" are usually the angriest that you want to find happiness that isn't reliant on other people and things.
/r/seduction27/01/21 10:36 AM
12

Celebrate the victory but learn from victories too, you definitely should have just kissed her. I don't think she would have gone on a date with someone and have been that concerned about covid. Dates often involve kissing.
/r/seduction24/08/20 07:49 PM
1

Okay great, you'll fit right in in this sub.
/r/seduction21/08/20 07:08 PM
12

The first issue you need to deal with is the insecurities you're projecting onto women. You seem to think the only thing women can care about is social status. You're projecting your own insecurity about not having social status onto them, as a means to not be a failure. Be honest with yourself about whether you consider yourself a failure, and if so what it would take for you to not see yourself that way. Even when a girl cares about status above all, it's usually about future status. I was in …
/r/seduction13/08/20 01:16 AM
6

I'd say that in general, masturbation derives complacency. Part of the reason your ancestors got laid is their biological drive to make it happen. When you shift that from "I NEED this to happen as soon as possible" to "sure would be nice if I got laid this week", it makes it harder to force yourself to follow through. I see it as a tool to use to help you decide how badly you want to want it. I always appreciated the advice of doing it once a week and only to girls you know in real life. It tur…
/r/seduction06/08/20 11:49 PM
1

Haha dude cmon, no one says that. I'll give you credit and assume you're saying it to a girl you know really well, but even then, tell me your work schedule is pretty creepy. I have female friends that I've been friends with for years who I wouldn't say that to. If you want something in a similar, more direct vein as that when you're trying to schedule a date that is not creepy, it works better for you to suggest a specific time and place. Then she might say "I can't I'm working that night, but …
/r/seduction15/07/20 09:16 PM
17

This is satire right? Those last 2 are super creepy.
/r/seduction15/07/20 05:01 PM
17

That's rough man.
/r/seduction25/05/20 09:23 AM
1

Maybe some people would say to let go of your insecurity over being unemployed, and maybe thats right. In my opinion the insecurity is good, it keeps you on the right path. What you should do is get a job. It's very normal to feel insecure when you are literally not secure. Get a job asap (but don't rush it, just do your best to find one). If you keep waiting around and feeling worthless, all that will happen is 9 months will become 18. In a year you're going to be 24, for sure. The only questio…
/r/seduction08/04/20 08:59 PM
1

Question: How tall are you? Cool, that's the height that you are. It doesn't matter anymore. You can bitch about what's fair or not or stacked against you, but it has zero impact because you cannot change it. You can spend all day convincing me that a 5'9" person has it way harder. Even if you convince me, guess what? You're still 5'9". Focus on things that you can change, not the ways you are getting screwed over.
/r/seduction07/04/20 08:47 PM
1

Wherever you go, there you are. I don't believe you that your town is shit unless it's under 10K people and in the middle of nowhere. You gotta play the cards you're dealt.
/r/seduction04/04/20 02:01 AM
3

Yeah she seems highly insecure about keeping a guy around. I think she unfriended on snap to be able to proactively not get dumped. I bet if OP found her again she would be down to hook up again. She's just scared
/r/seduction15/02/20 03:43 AM
1

Well does she want to kiss you more? Cause if so you're in luck, practice makes perfect
/r/seduction31/01/20 11:41 PM
9

Shit dude, I've been doing 2 on the sides this whole time
/r/seduction25/01/20 09:29 AM
17

I 100% believe you but this sounds made up as shit.
/r/seduction10/01/20 12:39 AM
-10

Ah, sucks he deleted them before you met her. I say what she doesn't know can't hurt her. As long as you keep them private and she doesn't find out you have them, no harm no foul.
/r/seduction09/01/20 01:16 AM
2

What kind of friend won't even show you the nudes of a girl you're lusting for?
/r/seduction09/01/20 01:08 AM
2

I hope you at least saw the nudes
/r/seduction09/01/20 01:04 AM
3

The med student went to a second location with you and talked to you for 30 minutes and you were scared of rejection? Bruh. Rejection doesn't hurt, it's all in your mind. Stop being so scared.
/r/seduction06/01/20 09:35 AM
24

The way that it is, mainly.
/r/seduction02/01/20 10:10 AM
0

Yeah what kind of weirdo wears clothes when it's just them and their opposite sex friends? Grow up, prudes.
/r/seduction01/01/20 10:03 PM
1

If she's willing to get in my car and go to her place, sure. Or she might just blow me in a bathroom.
/r/seduction31/12/19 09:15 AM
8

The issue with the attempts in the video is they act kind of clingy. If any of those girls asked me for sex I'd say yes, but I'm not gonna try to have a real relationship with a super awkward girl.
/r/seduction31/12/19 08:41 AM
3

Even the really cute blonde girl, watching that and imagining it was me, I'd probably turn her down. People who don't have game trying to hit on people is super unattractive.
/r/seduction31/12/19 08:37 AM
76

Wow I can see why girls don't do pickup much. They all know that pickup lines are just jokes, right? You're not supposed to actually use them.
/r/seduction31/12/19 08:35 AM
1

Self depreciating humor is great though. It's basically the easiest show of self security there is. Just don't use it to highlight your actual flaws.
/r/seduction18/12/19 11:57 PM
62

Nice guys don't finish last, they finish alone
/r/seduction09/12/19 05:42 AM
0

Don't start with work, if you get rejected constantly it's not a great look to have it happen at work. But later on when you have confidence, no reason not to. Just move slower than typical, girls are a lot less willing to hook up with people they know than strangers
/r/seduction04/12/19 08:31 AM
1

The important part is to make progress where you can. If it feels natural to compliment a girl, or ask for her number, in week 1 or 2, you need to do it.
/r/seduction20/10/19 12:00 AM
117

The negs in the section about Ashley seem pretty cringey
/r/seduction07/09/19 07:35 AM
1

You have to not be phased by whether things might go poorly. Rejection will happen. You gotta nut up if you want results.
/r/seduction07/09/19 04:04 AM
1

Julian legit made some serious "suggestions" towards raping people. If he had legit raped someone he'd be in jail, but you don't get banned from a country over random culture differences. He was just first over the cliff when it came to RSD moving more and more towards the rape side of thing, and it seems as though RSD recognized the path they were on and corrected in time.
/r/seduction30/08/19 12:28 AM
3

I've come to the conclusion that this is one of the things that makes a Real Man. Confidence to know that you will feel fine no matter what, and that you are for sure a person worth knowing
/r/seduction20/07/19 06:10 AM
1

Will the gym make me lose weight? I was alway under the impression it would make you bigger and healthier
/r/seduction20/07/19 04:27 AM
44

You have to buy an iPhone X for your friends to use while you're with them
/r/seduction13/07/19 07:19 AM
3

Game over man, find a new girl
/r/seduction03/07/19 10:36 AM
0

But also if you're depressed DO NOT buy a gun for any reason
/r/seduction23/06/19 07:54 PM
4

Let's not mince words, there were old RSD videos encouraging men to act in ways that sounded a hell of a lot like rape. RSD doesn't have a great record on giving voices to those who encourage rape-like behavior. Many people have come on this sub and related what was said at RSD conferences and some of what they quoted sounded like rape. So I don't have a lot of mind to give them if they're under fire for what they say, and have to go under ground because of it. If they didn't want that to happen…
/r/seduction23/06/19 05:59 AM
0

What political tension do you mean? Punishing rapists isn't political, and it's not like anybody that we want in this community is raping people.
/r/seduction23/06/19 01:15 AM
7

Owen saying it's gonna be forced underground just sounds like right wing fear mongering. If Owen isn't raping people, he has nothing to fear from any SJW with actual teeth, and neither do any of us. The Twitter mob is absurd to be sure, but no judge is going to take the side of an insane Twitter mob. Just don't rape people and you won't face consequences from society. And if you ARE raping people, then I hope to God they force you underground and ideally out of society
/r/seduction22/06/19 09:29 PM
8

That seems like a good followup
/r/seduction06/06/19 12:39 AM
0

What is the purpose of reading the number back wrong? Do you get charged $3/ text? Why not just call or text, and if she doesn't respond, move on? It seems pretty needy to me
/r/seduction25/05/19 04:42 AM
3

The therapist?
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:42 PM
3

Every post in this vein can be answered with this: So you are X thing. You can either change that, stay the same, or learn to accept it. You don't get to choose to be taller. You only get to choose how you react to being short. That's what matters
/r/seduction14/05/19 07:01 AM
2

Dude once I found a bio where the girl had 4 pictures, all of which with at least 1 other person, and I legit could not figure out which one was the girl. I could not find a girl who was in all 4 pictures. She must have drastically changed appearance in some. I actually sent her pics to a friend, and together we couldn't figure it out either.
/r/seduction13/05/19 06:43 AM
2

I see it more like you have to learn to dodge before you see an attack indication. The theme throughout the games is to not get too greedy, because even when youre getting good hits in the enemy can strike back quicker than you can dodge. you should always be dodging the next attack and rarely leaving yourself open, theres no reflexes involved in that, except for the reflex to strike when you have a short opening
/r/seduction10/05/19 04:41 PM
66

It's a classic trap really. Men want to think if they just do this one thing extra for girls then they'll want them, but I would guess the skeeball guy wasn't doing it for himself, he was doing it for girls.
/r/seduction10/05/19 03:19 PM
2

One major dofference: Peacocking is effective in dark souls. Never forget about Fashion Souls, it's super important
/r/seduction10/05/19 03:14 PM
9

How is dark souls at all reflex based? It's about prepared attacks from you. You have to figure out when and how yuu should strike. If you're playing reactively then of course you're gonna lose
/r/seduction10/05/19 03:12 PM
6

Yeah don't say this. This works with girls who are potentially interested and also value having you around. This is neither. Just say nothing. Failing quickly is a virtue, let it happen
/r/seduction03/05/19 08:07 AM
0

Have you seen the posts news about anything political? It's complete fabrication. They obviously just post whatever trump tells them to
/r/seduction01/05/19 04:14 PM
-1

I object to the premise that Donald Trump has anything figured out or is anything close to a role model for anything. He's probably not even a billionaire (why do you think he won't realese his taxes?).
/r/seduction01/05/19 08:10 AM
2

Well in my experience no one parties with the creepy dudes so it's kind of moot.
/r/seduction30/04/19 05:06 PM
3

I'd say more important is find a sorority that won't slut shame you
/r/seduction30/04/19 09:26 AM
2

Yeah I was thinking more like 5-6 times a week down to 1,not necessarily never
/r/seduction15/04/19 11:16 PM
8

Maybe it doesn't work, but I can tell you for sure that if you can't fap you are way more motivated to get laid. Maybe you aren't better at it, but you damn well try harder.
/r/seduction15/04/19 12:44 AM
5

Grindr is still qonly for gay people right?
/r/seduction10/04/19 08:40 PM
4

To be honest... I'm pretty sure this is significantly more effective that what the guy in the post said. Chicks really dig honesty
/r/seduction03/04/19 11:23 PM
9

Is it possible that there is literally one other person she would cheat with? Maybe. But its more likely that any of thousands of men would be attractive enough to get her to cheat
/r/seduction01/04/19 11:11 PM
4

If a girl is going to cheat on you, it's not about the other guy, it's about either you or her. So the guy didn't make anything happen that wouldn't have anyway
/r/seduction01/04/19 10:56 PM
29

Yeah its really shitty to keep pursuing women who tell you they have a boyfriend. Mainly because even if theyre lying it doesnt matter, since shes already told you that shes not into you BY lying to you about it
/r/seduction01/04/19 07:46 PM
26

The way I see it, if someone games my girl and she cheats on me, I should be thanking him for exposing her as a cheater. Better to know earlier if she is
/r/seduction01/04/19 07:38 PM
1

I think I've found your problem
/r/seduction28/03/19 08:53 AM
3

And if I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening, and good night
/r/seduction28/03/19 08:52 AM
1

Make a post about it after everyone sees it and say "it's even bigger in person"
/r/seduction22/03/19 10:22 PM
1

It was really interesting but I didn't like that it glorified abusive relationships
/r/seduction18/03/19 12:10 AM
1

"I think it'd be better if we go to yours"
/r/seduction15/03/19 11:05 PM
1

It's a trap because it's partially true. You can't just ignore reality and expect to get laid. It's hard to tell when you're using it as a crutch or for a good reason
/r/seduction15/03/19 11:04 PM
1

"there's no such thing as darkness bro, you're just misinterpreting what all this lack of light means"
/r/seduction02/03/19 05:38 AM
3

I was legit expecting this to end in him getting mugged for about 50% of it
/r/seduction02/03/19 05:37 AM
3

A lot of guys think they want to be approached, but in reality a woman approaching communicates low value. Could she be crazy hot? Sure. But that's an outlier situation. Often times when you give someone what they want, they don't want it anymore
/r/seduction23/02/19 02:49 AM
1

Step 2: ????? Step 3: Profit
/r/seduction17/02/19 09:07 AM
1

Yeah it definitely does
/r/seduction12/02/19 11:28 PM
1

Thats a great story
/r/seduction12/02/19 09:25 PM
5

If this is a question you need the answer to, it is absolutely worth it to be someone that girls like. It's not about seeking validation, it's about being able to have good relationships with people. You find out which girls you like by talking to a lot of them. It's not about forgiving them, is about realizing they had every right to think you're ugly or weird if you are ugly or weird. You can stop being that way, I promise
/r/seduction09/02/19 11:27 PM
7

You should say Hi, my name is X, I think you're cute, or whatever you want to put there. Maybe throw in a reason for coming to talk to her. Just have a fun conversation with her. But, getting laid in high school is pretty hard, don't let it bum you out if she doesn't want to keep in contact with you. At the first meeting you should either have a good reason for part 2 or get her number. She's practice for later, you're getting better every time. Here's a good crutch: instead of texting her, snap…
/r/seduction09/02/19 01:08 AM
2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyvz_g5bnFc
/r/seduction07/02/19 10:32 PM
2

This seems a little presumptuous
/r/seduction05/02/19 07:17 AM
1

I don't like the vacation line, it seems too prepared. Like an interview. I agree on changing the subject though
/r/seduction31/01/19 06:26 PM
77

Remember, self selection is a real thing. People generally act how you expect them to act. What this means is if you stereotype a woman into being the type of girl who never has sex on the first date, then she won't. Try believing that most women do want to have sex on a first date (they generally do)
/r/seduction20/01/19 09:10 PM
2

Maybe shes just canadian and/or being polite
/r/seduction17/01/19 07:32 AM
0

If things go south he can just find a new restaurant. Risks are made to be broken and all that jazz
/r/seduction13/01/19 08:08 PM
154

This is something that doesnt get mentioned enough here: Seduction is a team sport. Listening to your team mate usually helps you immensely
/r/seduction05/01/19 08:59 PM
154

Bruh go nail some baristas for me. Don't listen to the other guys. You can get a job at a different coffee shop within a week
/r/seduction31/12/18 07:55 PM
2

Man I could NOT do that, that's way too many decision trees to go down. The way my brain works is that before saying something I find the 2-3 most likely outcomes and try to figure out how to respond to each. And usually I'm several steps down each. It becomes 36 or so possible routes in no time
/r/seduction29/12/18 02:42 AM
4

If you know him, probably hold back for your own social standing. If she told you about him, you don't have a shot with her. If you just incidentally know of him though, mawy as well go for it. Girls cheat all the time, it's not up to you to police her
/r/seduction28/12/18 07:30 PM
1

Alternative: friend zone her. She seems good at meeting new people and is quite outgoing. Maybe being her friend gets you more girls than trying to bang her. If it works out you can always bang her later, too
/r/seduction24/12/18 05:54 PM
2

You need to make up her mind for her. Blow her off, girls that wont commit shouldnt get this level of commitment from you. You've done all that can be expected of you. After you start blowing her off, she will either chase you, or quit wasting your time with games. Let HER prove to YOU that shes interested. Otherwise, just believe what she says. shes telling you that shes not interested, so believe her. She can let you know if she was lying or not later
/r/seduction23/12/18 08:38 AM
1

Oh you're right, I just read it that way I guess. That's all just fake news anyway
/r/seduction23/12/18 07:42 AM
2

Yeah I was supposed to figure that out when it doesn't even fit into the sentence? I was think pre masturbation something. The fuck is a post masturbation orgasm? The orgasm is part of the masturbation. You can't orgasm AFTER. That's like saying "Post Eating Swallowing".
/r/seduction23/12/18 04:20 AM
8

What's PMO? But I agree, you should never jerk off within 24 hours of a date. You lose the killer instinct. IE, everything your ancestors put in your DNA to make sure you get laid.
/r/seduction23/12/18 04:04 AM
13

When you're about to get in bed with a girl, do you want her to be thinking about your genetic condition? Both words in that phrase contribute a bad connotation (genetic meaning your kids will have it, condition meaning it's a bad thing). That's fighting her brain on both evolution and on lust, both consciously and subconsciously. You should have them put away before she comes over.
/r/seduction19/12/18 10:30 AM
25

Hmm, is there a way to find a neutral site but get both partners to believe that it's the home of the other? It seems like everybody wants to go to the other person's house, there's gotta be a best of both worlds scenario. It would obviously require a 3rd person, likely one who knows both people. The more I think about this the more I think this doesn't work at all
/r/seduction09/12/18 06:39 AM
6

This seems good in theory but the way you talk about it makes it very creepy. Why am I trying to deceive people again? If you want person X to think John is lazy, just speak to person X as if you both understand that John is lazy. People believe the things your tone and body language tell them to believe. Trying to subliminally plant an idea is retarded.
/r/seduction24/11/18 12:31 AM
1

You say that like a bad thing. The way I see it, I'm here to be able to score with MOST girls, so I don't end up settling. But once that's achieved, I don't think going around gaming random women does much for me if I don't see potential/can get girls I think I deserve
/r/seduction05/11/18 06:01 PM
2

I believe to get a reset you need a blank Facebook account as well as a new email. No need to delete it, just sign in on another account
/r/seduction04/11/18 08:51 PM
8

A friend explained tinder logistics to me pretty in depth recently and it boiled down to: don't do that. Tinder has a score for you, and it goes down if you swipe a girl ranked below you and she doesn't swipe back. I think it's basically just ELO if you understand that. Swiping hot girls is good because sometimes they swipe back and boost you. But getting rejected by 4s and 5s will kill you like no other. I believe the super like just ignored the rating restriction. Typically if you swipe a 10 a…
/r/seduction04/11/18 08:38 PM
3

Yeah but what's your Klout score man? I read a book that said it's the most important thing online
/r/seduction19/10/18 10:13 PM
4

This community is basically built on truthfulness to yourself. You're gonna get a lot of ugly truth here. We see very little value in lies for the sake of others. Or maybe I'm just projecting.
/r/seduction17/10/18 08:49 AM
1

Hey don't take it personally, I don't believe anybody knows their own brain well. I can't tell you what about girls makes me attracted, aside from them being crazy hot. People can't be objective about why they do things
/r/seduction17/10/18 08:44 AM
4

In my experience the women who laugh most at my jokes are the ones who are already attracted to me. I'm not certain that the correlation is that direction, but it sure seems to be. And I'm funny very often, girls just never appreciate it until they're already into me. So in this case it's not attracting girls through humor, it's only a decent test of if "it's already raining"
/r/seduction17/10/18 08:42 AM
3

Heres the real lesson 1 from this sub: Sometimes people are bullshit and you shouldnt listen to them. Learn to figure out when that is, like in this case
/r/seduction08/10/18 05:02 PM
3

I mean, someone else can also catch your eye in 2 days right? Seems like a decent test of that anyway. But i agree, next afternoon is ideal
/r/seduction08/10/18 01:08 AM
3

Sounds an awful lot like negging to me. Calling her ugly is a bad idea, not to mention a pretty rude thing to say. It's a fine line between teasing and being hurtful. My impression of her reaction is that she has a fuckton of self confidence, is a good actor, or is already so incredibly down to fuck you. Any average girl would hate you for saying that
/r/seduction06/10/18 07:19 AM
2

Lol that's pretty funny. Also a great joke for the situation, it's like the perfect way to essentially anti-neg
/r/seduction29/09/18 06:06 AM
0

I only got mad at him because he insulted me first. And I think it's reasonable to point out to someone that they're talking about something that is directly answered in the post
/r/seduction24/09/18 04:37 PM
-4

Youre criticizing my contribution when you didnt even read the whole post! You commenting something that was clearly disproved in the post is the useless contribution
/r/seduction24/09/18 05:15 AM
0

The first sentence of the post said he was in a different restaurant than he works at. What is unclear about that?
/r/seduction24/09/18 05:09 AM
0

Did you read the post?
/r/seduction24/09/18 05:05 AM
3

As everyone else said, usually no. But take her at face value. If being just friends with her adds to your life in a meaningful way, do it. Just don't be thinking the path leads anywhere near having sex with her again. Maybe she has hot friends, then it's not such a bad deal
/r/seduction04/09/18 09:20 AM
9

A lot of the jargon is dumb and needs context, but Kino is better than touch. Kino has a purpose. Also a huge benefit is that the jargon turns off those who arent committed. If you arent willing to read the entire sidebar before posting, i dont want to read your comment. And reading the sidebar gets people in the correct mindset
/r/seduction19/08/18 06:43 AM
4

isnt it also needy to sleep with someone you decided isnt worth your time? (just as a thought experiment here)
/r/seduction19/08/18 06:40 AM
2

Uh, yes. The whole post is her blatantly hitting on you
/r/seduction13/08/18 04:46 PM
1

This kind of post confuses me. You're on this sub, which is specifically about getting girls to be attracted to you, and yet you're completely unwilling to see when a girl is showing you major attraction
/r/seduction13/08/18 04:37 PM
1

I didnt look at your pics, i dont give a shit what you look like. Dont use your attractiveness level as an excuse to give up on girls
/r/seduction10/08/18 12:09 AM
1

Okay so a girl giggles and smiles at you. There's 2 inferences you can make, she likes me, or she thinks I'm a joke. In the case where she thinks you're a joke, her opinion does not matter at all. Even if it's as high as 50% of the time that girl thinks you're a joke, you can flirt with her EVERY time. Because the potential reactions are A) She flirts back, which is positive, and B) she's a shitty girl not worth your time, meaning her opinion doesn't matter. This is neutral. Flirting back has at…
/r/seduction09/08/18 11:01 PM
1

Bruh, she was into you. This is why you assume attraction. Even if I'm wrong, you lose nothing by flirting with her. Don't let some random girls opinion of you break your frame
/r/seduction09/08/18 10:51 PM
31

Look dude, you're in a shit situation. So you can either get out of the situation, or you can make the most of it. What you can't do is feel sorry for yourself while not doing anything. Accept the situation and find a way to react to it
/r/seduction09/08/18 06:22 PM
1

Who reads more than the title?
/r/seduction06/08/18 05:44 AM
3

This is similar to my rule for kissing, always pull out first. I dont see it mentioned here a lot and its super important. If she breaks off the texting/the kiss, she loses interest. She got what she wanted for as long as she wanted, so there are no doubts. Not having doubts makes girls lose interest immediately
/r/seduction06/08/18 04:13 AM
4

Girls can absolutely post here, you just have to be down with the system. If you recognize it as a place to figure out how to fuck more often you're more than welcome. All you need is the right mentality or a mind that's open to it
/r/seduction06/08/18 03:26 AM
3

Wait why does the Donald even do daring advice? Why would anybody listen to them?
/r/seduction04/08/18 11:42 PM
4

And you may ask yourself "Where is that beautiful house? And my beautiful wife?"
/r/seduction04/08/18 11:35 PM
0

Rating scales are stupid and can only serve to put a girl on a pedestal or make you feel like shit. A 4 isn't easier or harder to game than a 9 or 10, and the more important question is "would I like to have sex with her?". She's either worth pursuing or isnt. The other problem is him saying he can't learn game from this post because the girl isn't attractive enough.
/r/seduction02/08/18 06:18 PM
0

I haven't used Molly, but I heard the content of my original comment from several friends who have.
/r/seduction31/07/18 09:00 PM
4

The most typical rave drug is Molly, and it's not really a "non sober" drug. It's not some major trip like acid or shrooms are, or even as intense as being extremely drunk. It doesn't have that same "out of this world" effect that disassociates the user.
/r/seduction31/07/18 06:00 PM
10

"Youre so (Thing that you think is good)" Usually works well. Manly, caring, strong, well-spoken, youre a natural, etc. Whatever YOU think is true and also appreciate is going to be by far the most impactful compliment you can give. The real trick is to learn to say what you mean when youre thinking of it. If he does something you really like, tell him that you really liked it without ulterior motives, just because you want him to feel loved
/r/seduction25/07/18 05:40 AM
12

I'm sorry to tell you this but paying hookers does not count as seducing them. They only cared about your money
/r/seduction23/07/18 10:55 PM
5

Seems kind of obvious doesn't it?
/r/seduction16/07/18 10:52 PM
36

I bet it can work in the right situation
/r/seduction16/07/18 10:42 AM
48

This seems like a perfect place to implement my patented "say literally anything" technique. The trick is, you go up to her, and you say literally anything. Introducing yourself and asking her name is usually fine
/r/seduction16/07/18 08:46 AM
1

I see PDA as more like making out and a lot of touching, not holding hands
/r/seduction13/07/18 04:47 AM
1

PDA implies girls youve already slept with or are going to with near certainty in the near future. Kino is much less significant touching. Also kino is usually not just making out
/r/seduction13/07/18 03:09 AM
3

I was speaking literally about cold showers. People talk about them a lot, and i was wondering if the people who take cold showers are onto something, or if theyre just being pretentious
/r/seduction06/06/18 05:39 PM
1

"I'm not into you anymore" will suffice. Or, "I changed my mind". Alternatively, just treat her like a friend. You could also try putting her on a pedestal, that's always worked for me in the past to drive women away
/r/seduction06/06/18 07:30 AM
4

Is there a benefit to cold showers or is it just a way to brag about how tough you are?
/r/seduction06/06/18 06:59 AM
6

Can I be zuck that gives a shit about his public appearance? That guy seems like he gets way more girls and has a better life
/r/seduction22/05/18 10:32 AM
1

Other people saying to not act like its a gross thing are right. But you dont need to flaunt it. If it comes up, dont try to act like you think its weird. But dont bring it up yourself in high quantities. Playing the uke is not in itself highly nerdy, thats actually actively cool if youre not embarrassed of it. It makes you way needier to change your hobbies based on how you think women will perceive it. And like, dont wear beatles tshirts to a date, wear a nice t shirt. Be cognizant of social c…
/r/seduction15/05/18 07:22 AM
6

They talk about "The Game" a lot in that thread. Theyre refering to "The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists" by Neill Strauss, right? Because if so im not sure anyone there actually read it. The entire moral of the book is that the things he describes people as doing either just dont work or are less effective than non scummy alternatives. You can sum it up with "Heres the things i and my friends did, and this is why you shouldnt be doing those things". Are all these people j…
/r/seduction09/05/18 10:02 PM
6

They hate the people who want to put the work in, but then they go ahead and love the resulting men. I think most women just dont realize how much more they like men who follow the principles of this sub because the successful men arent talking about it. If we want people to not hate pickup artists then the ones that are adored by women would have to tell those women where they came from
/r/seduction09/05/18 09:54 PM
1

Wait is dick rubs sex, or is it a euphemism for bad?
/r/seduction07/05/18 06:32 PM
1

A: Dinner is a terrible first date. It's really hard to not put her on a pedestal when you're spending $50-75 on her. B: be more honest with her, meaning don't hide your intentions or act like what you're suggesting is unusual. If she doesn't know that you're interested in her then she'll automatically reject you either for her perceived lack of interest or for you not having the balls to tell her. It's entirely possible that she knows you've been attracted to her for a long time and has already…
/r/seduction06/05/18 09:45 PM
1

On a first date, it's simple: pay for everything, but don't do anything expensive. Don't take her to dinner on a first date. Have coffee, walk in the park, get ice cream, etc. Buying her coffee is reasonable and doesn't make you lose credibility as not a chump. Guys who spend $200 on a first date are seen as chumps
/r/seduction04/05/18 06:16 PM
5

It's just so hard to tell. When the shills are out, it looks just like this post, since it is actually a real person. I get the feeling this is a shill actually, but it's only that, a feeling. The feeling is based on the fact that everyone here should know by now that movies are terrible dates. And you seem like an asshole when you're accusing a real person of it, so there's a huge stigma against fighting back. I wouldnt be surprised if Reddit users start advocating for all brand news to be left…
/r/seduction12/04/18 01:43 AM
1

I completely agree with the audience idea. In certain areas personal fitness is significantly more important that other areas. I do think that even at a met gala though, your body is gonna score you some major points after your brain keeps her from walking away. Girls appreciate when a guy takes care of himself. It shows her that he thinks highly of himself since he is willing to put the effort in to keep himself healthy
/r/seduction04/04/18 07:19 PM
1

Maybe not directly, but it has a huge impact on your own perception of things, and also her perception of things. It's like saying you can run a marathon wearing jeans. Can it be done? Absolutely. But why would anyone put in all the work to get good at running but not throw in simple quality of life improvements too? It's so much easier to do or learn than the core stuff that would be crazy not to. It's a level one skill, when all the other stuff is level 30 skills. By the time you're level 28 t…
/r/seduction04/04/18 08:53 AM
8

I disagree that working out and maintaining your appearance counts for shit. It shows that he cares. That's a relevant attribute
/r/seduction04/04/18 07:55 AM
1

The reason women tend to give out the horrible advice you talk about is that they communicate via emotions and men communicate via problem solving. It's a man asking for a solution to a problem and a girl helping him identify how that problem makes him feel. Which is a valid thing to assume the man would be asking for, except that it wasn't what he meant
/r/seduction03/04/18 09:51 PM
1

Yeah it really comes down to "is this guy bringing me up, or pushing me down?" What is he adding to your life? Everyone here says don't put up with shitty girls, same thing for guys. Don't put up with shitty people
/r/seduction02/04/18 08:37 PM
40

So you say "hold on a minute, I want to finish watching this band". Dance with her or something while they're playing. Be real dude. You wanted to fuck her, and you wanted to stick around while they finished playing. Tell her that. Don't treat it like a game you're trying to win, treat it like you're trying to be the most honest with her
/r/seduction30/03/18 06:20 PM
1

Wow, so after writing The Game, he wrote a book that's actually a manual for pickup that just renegs on everything he seemed to learn from the events in The Game?
/r/seduction28/03/18 05:11 AM
3

You read The Game, and you agree with the Mystery Method? You know that whole book is about how stupid things like the Mystery Method actually are, right?
/r/seduction28/03/18 02:24 AM
13

The only thing that's gonna ruin it is you pussyfooting around. She told you she wants to fuck you. Go fuck her
/r/seduction09/02/18 09:32 AM
3

It's not even a shit test, he just needed to cut ties earlier. You owe it to yourself to not deal with shitty girls. I would be upset because I let someone trick me into wasting my time on them, not because I didn't pass her tests. This is a perfect example of the sunk cost fallacy at work, and why outcome independence/abundance is such an important philosophy. The rational point to leave that date was likely hours before he did, but every time he evaluated leaving, he added in the sunk costs of…
/r/seduction21/01/18 07:29 AM
1

Beyond this being a fairly typical "I don't want to be pretty, I want to be powerful" poem, I really have no idea what she means. There were a lot of euphemisms for sex in there, but definitely not everything about flowers was about sex. Did she get planted when she lost her virginity or when she was born? Who is the gardener here? Being planted is a weird way to describe sex, I've definitely never had a sexual experience that felt anything like planting her and/or pulling her out of the ground.…
/r/seduction14/01/18 07:26 AM
1

Is one of the benefits you mention of having hot platonic friends getting to fuck their hot friends?
/r/seduction14/01/18 01:11 AM
11

I don't see how it says you don't have a soul. If your friend didn't want you to fuck other girls, she shouldnt have broken it off. It's a logical conclusion that when you stop fucking a guy, he'll look for it elsewhere with other hot girls he knows. You don't want to be like the guys that let girls keep them on a string for the chance to fuck them, right? If a girl isn't willing to commit to anything, you don't owe her anything back
/r/seduction14/01/18 01:09 AM
1

I've never been in a situation where the person who doesn't live there wants to go home. If it's in your house, I'd expect you to be the only person interested in him going home, so probably nothing to worry about there. No one wants to get dressed and drive home right after sex
/r/seduction07/01/18 10:24 PM
1

Freud was wrong about a lot, but those were things no one had even thought of before. Just because he didn't apply his ideas in the perfect way doesn't make him a laughing stock. We can still credit him for inventing new ways to think about psychology, even if some of the scenarios he used those ideas in were dumb. It's like saying the Beatles aren't any good because new music has improved upon the baseline they set so much. He made meaningful true discoveries, and then applied those discoveries…
/r/seduction06/01/18 11:42 PM
4

Anyone thinking "oh, the reason I don't have success is because I haven't moved to NYC" is going to be sorely disappointed. But anyone who has consistent success with women and would like to have better experiences and meet higher quality women will probably get use from this. If you can't make it as is, making things 5% easier and the successes 5% better won't do anything for you. I'd be surprised if anything but the most drastic changes in location had a real effect on someone's happiness, com…
/r/seduction06/01/18 10:35 PM
14

Almost certainly. You start out at a significantly lower level though, to the point most aspergers kids have real social issues throughout their teens. Any process that you have to learn by hand is going to be harder for you than the ones yuu know naturally. But the upside is only there when you consciously learn the basics. Regular people learn via socialization the necessary skills to get by, while aspergers people can't learn them easily through socialization. So those regular people don't ac…
/r/seduction04/01/18 04:40 AM
14

It's actually like finding a loophole in aspergers. You can become great at anything if you spend a ton of time looking at it but can't figure out social cues. So you just spend your hours being obsessed with something learning social cues
/r/seduction03/01/18 10:23 PM
3

Your point is entirely not true. Yes, testosterone=sex drive. But it's a relative effect. A woman with more testosterone in her than another woman will have a higher sex drive, but you can't compare female testosterone levels to male levels. It would be like saying "my car needs gas to run, and my gas tank is bigger, therefore my car is faster than yours". Male testosterone is doing all sorts of other things, like growing facial and body hair, growing muscles, etc. So women having less testoster…
/r/seduction28/12/17 04:07 AM
4

A lot of women really want sex, they just aren't as obvious about it, between societal pressures and the ways that women are attractive. Girls who really want to fuck are generally less attractive than men who do, because girls tend to like more aggressive men, and men tend to like more laid back girls. But if men want sex more, it's not by much. You should also think about how your belief of how much women like sex affects the kind of women yuu attract. They likely aren't as open with you about…
/r/seduction28/12/17 02:49 AM
26

I'm kind of surprised you even wanted to close by the end of it. I got exhausted just reading it. I see no reason to put so much energy into this girl who isn't willing to invest in you
/r/seduction27/12/17 10:41 PM
9

Why are you hiding the truth about yourself? Are you scared she won't like it? Are you so invested in a random girl's opinion that you'd rather make things up than tell the truth? You don't have to tell her your deepest darkest secrets, just regular stuff you would talk to your friends about. Explain why a TV show is your favorite. Tell her about a family tradition you have. Be a real person
/r/seduction26/12/17 06:09 AM
10

The guy who wrote the best pickup book ever, mark Manson, disagrees with you. Showing vulnerability makes you stronger in her eyes because it shows that you know it won't hurt you to make yourself vulnerable. Only weak guys believe they will get hurt if they open up to people
/r/seduction26/12/17 04:20 AM
22

Also, if you don't enjoy her why are you gaming her? It's 100% weird to be trying to sleep with her solely to do it. If you can't enjoy doing it then why even try?
/r/seduction26/12/17 04:16 AM
9

But they're actually just that, fears. Fear doesn't provide us any tangible benefit. You can absolutely ask a woman on a date and not risk your standing in the friend group. You just have to frame the group as something you have in common, and not you two as something the group has in common, if that makes any sense. If you're 2 members of the group going on a date, that will end poorly. If you're 2 people who have similar friends, it wont
/r/seduction20/12/17 07:55 AM
3

I don't think I'd consider her all that hot if she has a facial deformity, but to each their own
/r/seduction17/12/17 12:29 AM
21

It is nice to have a reason though, just to give her plausible deniability on the way there and not pressure her. "you wanna see my fish tank?" is the classic. Obviously you're just gonna have sex, and she knows it, but she isn't thinking about sex and getting nervous. So it's a comfort thing
/r/seduction17/12/17 12:26 AM
1

I recommend not even considering the fact that you're a virgin. Learning how to read and attract women doesn't change if you've had sex. All that changes is you might be worse at sex. If you're both naked, you could probably tell her just to be honest and help her understand you.
/r/seduction13/12/17 03:12 AM
1

If she's walking that close to you, put your arm around her waist. You're not even pulling her in with it at that point, so it's pretty much "free" and sort of "proves a point" to both of you
/r/seduction11/12/17 04:19 AM
11

You may be right. But it doesn't actually matter, because you can either play the game by the rules, or lose. Change what you can, accept what you cant
/r/seduction11/12/17 04:12 AM
1

A guy you're dating,as in at least considering exclusivity with. But you don't expect that much text communication if you haven't even had sex, right?
/r/seduction09/12/17 07:58 AM
3

Yeah if she wants to put the effort in you should definitely return it. But you don't need to worry about having 0 texts with her. You won't seduce her with a text
/r/seduction09/12/17 07:49 AM
7

I assume everyone gets the joke. Did we need to wait for some random person to say "nobody expects the Spanish inquisition"? I based my joke off of what the original joke obviously was
/r/seduction09/12/17 07:31 AM
4

You must be new, you're not supposed to act like sex is unexpected
/r/seduction08/12/17 08:27 PM
0

You've been teaching pickup for 13 years now and don't even save your own videos? That's pretty much your whole entire marketing scheme for your business, right? Plus a portion of the profits itself, since simple views generate revenue. Your business skills seem shoddy.
/r/seduction07/12/17 02:56 AM
5

Or if it's something like getting coffee or a drink, say "have a drink with me on Wednesday"
/r/seduction02/12/17 01:45 AM
3

I think most people get to this subreddit by saying "wow, I've been not thinking about it much and doing what comes naturally, and that got me to age 22 as a virgin. Maybe a different approach could help". Imagine telling a guy who wants to be a great quarterback but doesn't have a decent throwing motion to stop thinking about it so much. That'd be crazy. He clearly isn't good at it now, so not trying to change won't make him good at it
/r/seduction30/11/17 10:37 PM
2

Virginity is a symptom, and nothing more. If you went to a doctor and said "Doctor, I've had this really bad cough for 6 months now, it won't go away", he's never going to reply "Oh, you're totally fucked, might as well give up now". He would figure out what's wrong with you based on context. By trying to lose your virginity, you're essentially making random stabs at what may be wrong and seeing what happens. You should be trying to fix the things that cause you to not have sex, not the fact tha…
/r/seduction01/08/17 05:54 AM
5

I think models is relevant here, where he talks about being more honest with people. If you're trying to hide something from her, she will see that eventually. By staying in the "cold, make her chase me" mindset too long, she learned that that was just a charade the whole time
/r/seduction26/07/17 08:22 PM
3

I have no idea what your first paragraph means
/r/seduction04/07/17 08:35 AM
3

No fap has to be approached the right way. You can't do it just to do it, you have to have a purpose for it. Have you ever taken Adderall saying "I'm gonna drop Addy and then study for 10 hours"? Usually what happens is that because you didn't set a goal for the Adderall usage, you just got high and acted normally. No fap is the same. You can't just be a guy who isn't jerking off. You have to be the guy not jerking off so that he feels more drive when approaching women. The action itself isn't g…
/r/seduction17/06/17 05:50 AM
3

Also, the premise is wrong. You can hear the sound multiple times, which anyone can figure out if they watch the first 30 seconds twice
/r/seduction11/06/17 10:45 PM
1

Yes, women will be more attracted to you if you work out. As for the other part, who cares? Is me telling you that you're too short going to make you crawl into a hole and die? You need to own the things that you can't change
/r/seduction24/05/17 01:44 AM
2

This is a great comment, thanks. I like that it focuses on People, not Girls. A lot of times this sub can get distracted by symptoms of poor social skills, and while that is relevant in a lot of situations, better mechanics overall help more often
/r/seduction23/03/17 12:05 AM
1

It is sick!
/r/seduction03/02/17 12:26 AM
4

In that case it might make more sense to invite her to a 2 person thing, if neither of you is particularly friendly with the other teammates
/r/seduction30/12/16 12:07 AM
1

If he was charming as fuck, why do you say he had no game? What is game if not knowing how to be charming?
/r/seduction20/12/16 11:03 PM
2

I really liked the section in Models about this assumption: if you assume that women never play games, you will subconsciously weed out the ones who are playing games by taking them at their word. That way you get to only make an effort for the ones that prove their interest
/r/seduction16/12/16 07:59 AM
8

Either she was an actor or she was desperate. There were so many times any self respecting girl would leave immediately. If she's not an actor, she gave you a TON of leeway. That's not to say this is a bad thing, but I wouldn't be so inclined to use this as an example of how effective your game is. I got a little creeped out by you just while watching this. You do look like you're super attractive though, and you seem to dress well. Maybe this is a better example of the seddit cliche "be confide…
/r/seduction06/12/16 09:20 AM
1

I agree that he should show his attraction, but that would be best done by spending more time with her and then asking her out. Not telling her she's a naughty girl. Jesus. High school is not the place to be a sleazy pick up artist. You expect him to just walk up to her and be a totally different person? I will accept the argument that that kind of stuff works on some girls, but it most definitely will not work on a high schooler who is his friend. Being funny and confident is a great move. Pick…
/r/seduction04/12/16 03:11 PM
2

Yeah, don't say most of this. He's a high schooler, most of that will just freak her out, and since she's so popular, a ton of other people too. The first 3 paragraphs are good. The rest is gonna make her think he's a creep
/r/seduction04/12/16 02:42 PM
1

Yknow, if you don't actually fully trust this girl, there is a non-zero chance that this becomes a rape accusation because you're her supervisor. I know it's fairly common, and it almost certainly won't end badly this time, but it could end badly, and losing your job would be the least of your worries. This sub always preaches not getting hung up on girls you aren't dating, and risking more than you would usually risk over a girl seems like a good example of putting a specific pussy on a pedesta…
/r/seduction29/11/16 04:21 AM
4

If you haven't, try El Jimador tequila. It's way better than Cuervo, and somehow cheaper too
/r/seduction22/11/16 07:29 PM
2

The most meaningful part for me was the section on the 2 assumptions to make, and the follow through for how each combination would affect you. Once you start disregarding how the situations where she is playing games or unattractive to you affect you, you can focus on meaningful results. Since you never win in those positions anyway, it makes way more sense to play so that you win the scenarios where she isn't being unhelpful.
/r/seduction14/11/16 11:04 AM
17

College girls want guys that are fun first and foremost. The easiest way to start being fun is to drink. It's like 30% of the job done like that. So by not drinking you have to be more fun than anyone else. The drinkers have to get 70% of the way there, you have to get 100% just to be even with them. College is the epitome of showing you're good at being fun, you need to organize events, have a cool place to hang out at, etc. So be the guy that is always doing cool things, and don't bring up tha…
/r/seduction06/11/16 07:53 AM
1

I don't know if I'd put it that way... And of course, there's always the option of using social skills to determine how you think the girl you want to sleep with will react to either side of the joke. Controversial here, I know, but girls do actually vary in how they respond to that stuff.
/r/seduction01/11/16 06:21 AM
3

Do what makes the most sense to who you are. If one way doesn't make sense that you would say something like that, don't say that.
/r/seduction31/10/16 08:18 PM
2

Self-Defecating
/r/seduction31/10/16 08:15 PM
3

If she hasn't seen it yet, then you can just lie?
/r/seduction31/10/16 10:43 AM
-1

How did catching a football well turn the kid into a quarterback? Wouldn't he have been a wide receiver?
/r/seduction29/10/16 08:10 PM
2

So you take what they said and just repeat it back to them in a question? And people don't usually catch on to what you're doing?
/r/seduction29/10/16 08:05 PM
1

Wait so you're mad about... The idea that this girl got her face licked prior to this? Like, sure, that's fucked up, but nobody involved here had anything to do with that. I get pretty angry that things have happened too, but I don't get mad at people unrelated to it. The issue is that she had to be on the defensive, because men in general do this, right? How is this effective? Are you gonna yell at me? I've never licked a girls face without consent, why am I suddenly the bad guy here? You're pr…
/r/seduction25/10/16 10:15 PM
2

So a guy posts an example of his technique picking up women, members of this subreddit explain to him why she will never be calling him and point out what he should have done differently if he wanted her to like him, and you act like this is unacceptable? I'm sorry, we can't all be Casanova, tons of men that are terrible with women are here because they want to not be terrible with women. Would you and the rest of your gender prefer that he never learn how to talk to women effectively? Nobody is…
/r/seduction25/10/16 02:49 AM
1

This subreddit in a nutshell
/r/seduction24/10/16 12:33 AM
1

A default of putting your arm around her shoulder wouldn't be terrible. It's not very bold, and obviously you're the judge, but as far as any touching goes its fairly versatile
/r/seduction13/10/16 04:00 AM
1

I see you've spoken with several frat guys moms. Did they also tell you that it's a dry house?
/r/seduction09/09/16 05:05 AM
1

Psychology isn't that precise. I can bring you a PhD holder with 30 years in the field and the best you'll get is "factors related to her mother could cause something like this to happen". Psychology is about examining single people deeply, there's no golden rule for anal
/r/seduction30/08/16 01:05 AM
3

Something you actually think about her is good. It should be congruent with how she's presented herself to you, ideally something she hopes people will notice about her
/r/seduction29/08/16 09:14 PM
1

I feel like this needs a solid cool down from the FZ conversation. You can't make it a rebuttal, then you're just a douche. If you wait a week, then when you ask she's still going to suffer the cognitive dissonance of believing she would set up her friends, but not wanting to set you up, but not see it as a direct play by you. She's more likely to see it as one of your core beliefs ("my female friends set me up") than as you taking advantage of the situation or cutting your losses
/r/seduction29/08/16 04:57 AM
2

I was sure this was going to actually end up going somewhere, but I guess not
/r/seduction29/08/16 12:46 AM
3

So first you've gotta start using ass related terms around her alot, like suggest she's really anal about stuff, and she's being a butthole, etc. Once you've conditioned her to respond positively and hopefully erotically to that kind of stuff, you put anal sex related things in her every day life, like have her find a butt plug while at work, that kind of stuff. Step 3 is to make it seem more normal, so you tell her about your (fake) friend who just loves anal but is worried it makes her too bor…
/r/seduction28/08/16 11:16 PM
43

I ran a half marathon once
/r/seduction22/08/16 01:35 AM
2

*especially if they're not funny. He knows when he's funny or not, but someone laughing at a funny joke is commonplace. You have to stand out in a way he will notice
/r/seduction02/07/16 08:52 PM
3

In a lot of ways pickup is a skill. And like any skill, some are pretty much born great. I bet babe Ruth hit a ton of home runs before he was 15. Guys that got laid before they turned 15 (usually) would be considered "born great". Those guys will always be comfortable around women, unless something changes in their life, because they were comfortable without ever putting a ton of thought into it. But look at Strauss himself, or literally any pickup coach. They all, without exception, we're born …
/r/seduction19/06/16 09:23 AM
9

Trough is life. Only way is trough.
/r/seduction12/06/16 06:04 PM
1

I've never heard that term before outside of Sgt. Pepper's one. What is that?
/r/seduction20/05/16 03:49 AM
0

I heard if you jerk off in your room enough, girls just show up and blow you. And you don't even have to do all that icky socializing you hate so much and can get back to just being amazing with women without trying that much sooner
/r/seduction05/04/16 06:16 PM
1

This guy is right. Especially for men, attractiveness is only like 10% predetermined. Get in good shape, hold yourself better, and act with confidence, and youre getting there. If you can dress well, stay at a good fitness level, and be intelligent in a reasonably wide range of topics while speaking with a medium level of confidence, youre more attractive to a woman than 90% of men regardless of what you were born looking like. Show that you care about your body and your mind, and girls will car…
/r/seduction09/03/16 05:49 AM
1

Or she's a teenager and, being a teenager, doesnt understand anything about anything. She can, factually, be a virgin, and simply be wrong that she wants FWB. Or she used to be looking for "the one" and now is not. Most things teenagers do dont really make sense to other people, since they are gaining new experience so quickly and haphazardly
/r/seduction22/02/16 03:49 AM
9

This is cool, I've never really thought about what i like girls to do in these situations. It helps me think about the future of whatever relationship we have. As in, if I can tell she wants to fuck, how do i both show her that I do and make it actually happen. This is why im glad guys get to be dominant, because i would never get laid if i had to guide her and myself, even when we both want to.
/r/seduction01/02/16 07:08 AM
6

Your window of view into this has been heavily shifted. Most girls expect you to pay for them on the first date, and youll blow it if you dont. Many times this will be 100% deal breaker. You asked her for the date. Plan a $20 date, its not hard. And then, like the other guy said, have her pay for 2nd or third or 4th. Pay for two of the first 3, including the first one
/r/seduction01/02/16 04:59 AM
10

TL;DR ignore girls and they will try to rape you
/r/seduction21/01/16 05:02 AM
2

Especially fuk, right?
/r/seduction12/01/16 06:38 AM
7

This is why this sub recommends working out. You need to have great squats before attempting this. If you can't squat effectively and she sees you lifting with your back, you lose all attraction.
/r/seduction10/01/16 09:15 AM
1

What if I have a tongue in my mouth already?
/r/seduction10/01/16 09:12 AM
5

I think Tuesday might be a better option. I feel like you're more of a Tuesday kind of guy
/r/seduction10/01/16 09:11 AM
2

But when you go out and act this way, you make anyone that is does pickup without being doughy look bad. I don't believe we have to be assholes to succeed in this, and that's what I aim to do
/r/seduction06/01/16 06:36 AM
3

I actually meant that you make anyone practicing this sort of thing look bad, by being a douche. It isnt hurting my sense of self worth, it just makes it so i cant really tell people that i do this without them thinking im a douche
/r/seduction05/01/16 09:45 PM
1

While I'm sure she was doing it for tips, she did seem to be the aggressor to him. Not rude to hit on a girl that presents herself to you
/r/seduction05/01/16 07:26 PM
3

So not only do you think you really got a date with a hooter waitress, but she already told you how big her tits are? Girls don't do that. By the way, remember how you said the guys name was Chaz, since it was the douchiest name you know? Chaz was certainly not the douchiest guy at that table. If this had been a true story, you would have been making all of us look bad by being such a dick
/r/seduction05/01/16 07:24 PM
1

I was just yanking your chain, being intentionally vague
/r/seduction28/12/15 05:25 PM
1

Maybe the solution is to set all of them up cross religions unknowingly. If no one will launch the rockets because "my boy/girlfriend is over there", we have no war.
/r/seduction28/12/15 06:03 AM
1

Isn't it 12 years a slave, then no one owns you? Is there a time limit on slavery?
/r/seduction28/12/15 05:58 AM
1

Well I don't like to brag, but pretty much, I walked up to her, we talked for a while, and then we had sex. Is that what you were looking good for? By the way, the sex was great, I'm glad I did the things I did
/r/seduction28/12/15 05:39 AM
6

Link to the real article, why should this website get paid for what Wong wrote? Also, this is literally on the sidebar, since its #10 on all time top posts, which is a sidebar link. These points combined make me think youre either a karma whore, or you posted the article to brightside.me and are getting the ad revenue. If you want to repost links, 1. use the right link, and 2. make it a self post
/r/seduction25/12/15 08:02 AM
1

If you have her number, call her. You can talk for half an hour and it probably won't be weird. Set up logistics of a date at the start, then just chat
/r/seduction16/12/15 02:13 AM
2

Love Letter. Plays very well with 2 players, and as a bonus has a perfect theme for you two
/r/seduction16/12/15 02:03 AM
0

Does it matter? Your options are to give up, to make it work, or to move. Since you're here, I'm guessing you've eliminated giving up. So move, or get better. Just remember before you move, "wherever you go, there you are". What im getting at is, who cares if it's harder? Play with the cards you've been dealt instead of wishing for a better hand
/r/seduction16/12/15 02:00 AM
1

I only ever read it in The Game, but I am pretty sure that the Mystery Method is terrible. Doesn't it have peacocking and negging involved?
/r/seduction16/12/15 01:55 AM
6

What I've noticed here is that the basics are covered very well, and will definitely get your foot in the door with many beautiful women. After that however, you're definitely on your own. Game has to be coming from you, because no girl wants to date a forum for picking up girls
/r/seduction15/12/15 01:54 AM
3

I believe in having a short but complete texting conversation first, then calling her for the date
/r/seduction14/12/15 07:23 PM
1

I think you should get that jacket back, regardless of your relationship with this girl.
/r/seduction13/12/15 03:10 AM
1

No he's not, thats terrible advice. You'll just come off as creepy if you start asking random girls to have sex with you
/r/seduction08/12/15 09:00 PM
1

Maybe stay coherent next time and you'll remember for sure what happened. Do you actually remember it happening one way or another?
/r/seduction07/12/15 07:20 AM
1

It's common for alcoholics, for sure. People drink in bars because other people are drinking, and everyone drunk is more fun than everyone sober. But being drunk in public by yourself kind of sucks, i would recommend not. Just practice while sober more. It really is 90% practice
/r/seduction07/12/15 07:13 AM
-2

Your friends think it's extreme to delete her contact info and iPod songs, but not that you just gave up being friends with them because they remind you of her? Or are these your new friends? Do your new friends know what might happen to them?
/r/seduction17/11/15 06:00 PM
1

Hmm, that's a difficult one. I think that, assuming you liked world war Z, you might like something similarly minded toward physically altered people like zombies. So I would say watch The Avengers next. Or if you want to get into a TV show, I think The Twilight Zone might be your style. The plus side of that is it's short episodes, with just enough meaning that a drunk guy can still understand them. Let me know if those don't work out for you, otherwise, happy watching!
/r/seduction17/11/15 05:57 PM
5

Stop hitting on her. Beyond that, do whatever you want, just have fun
/r/seduction16/11/15 08:12 PM
1

Honestly she is probably a little upset that you two havent had sex yet. That said, kiss her. If you can, say something really dumb and cheesy when you do, girls like that. I mean, you will anyway, so might as well do it on purpose. while you make out with her, move your hands all over her. Take it from there. If you mean what to do right off, sit down with her VERY close to you, watch maybe 5 minutes tops, and as i said before, do something dumb leading to a kiss. The fact that youre kissing he…
/r/seduction12/11/15 10:21 AM
1

That brings up a good question that seems to come up for me lately, but on different topics: How do you escalate to anal? I cant get much closer than currently inside her, so it seems like a gap that has no bridge. Asking straight up seems very out of touch with the entirety of the rest of game
/r/seduction12/11/15 05:10 AM
1

I just always find it funny. If ive never kissed her before, and we're getting together at one of our places, it seems obvious. Kind of a shame they feel they have to lie to themselves and us
/r/seduction12/11/15 04:45 AM
1

For some reason the girls im with seem to be really bad at predicting what might happen when we get together. "I never expected that to happen", all the time
/r/seduction12/11/15 04:01 AM
1

My shpeal on nice guys is this: no one cares that you're nice. It's the default. It's like if a car salesman was trying to get you into a car by saying "well it runs!" All you would think is "yeah, I'd be pretty pissed if it didn't. If that's the lead, and there's no more beyond that, I'm not interested. Other cars have actual benefits". You have a basket of attributes that you can use to sell yourself. Leading with a neutral one doesn't make anyone interested in finding out the rest of them
/r/seduction11/11/15 01:43 AM
3

It's honestly easier than actually talking. It's totally a crutch for me, the whole never talk to her thing. But I've found that no one really cares if you're too forward once, it's only if you don't figure out that they aren't interested. And if you use that one free pass that every girl gives you on several girls, by around number 2-3 at the latest you get one that's hugely into it. But I'm also in a college town doing it with sorority girls, YMMV
/r/seduction08/11/15 10:03 PM
7

I don't know how slurry the girls you're around are, but I generally end up dancing with them for a while, then after a while when it's clear they're all about it I start making out with them, then I go outside with them, make out more, and suggest we go to somewhere we can fuck. Then we fuck
/r/seduction08/11/15 08:30 PM
32

Interesting choice of QB there.
/r/seduction07/11/15 04:22 AM
10

I know tons of guys that are in frats for 5-6 years. I mean, get in at 19, stay 5 years, that makes you 24. Everyone has a different story
/r/seduction02/11/15 06:59 AM
5

I'm not sure if you're joking, obviously you don't get booted instantly when you graduate, you're still friends with the brothers. Tons of guys go until 24-25
/r/seduction02/11/15 06:46 AM
3

Why not keep doing college for a year or so? Take a few classes, keep living in the frat house. Maybe you move to the club scene and EDM shows. No need to give it up if you dont want to
/r/seduction02/11/15 06:27 AM
5

I've seen it. I just wanted an explanation of your tie in
/r/seduction31/10/15 06:32 PM
5

Okay, so what does it mean?
/r/seduction31/10/15 05:30 PM
7

This seems like a really smart and well said turn of phrase but I dont think I get it
/r/seduction31/10/15 05:08 PM
1

So what I'm getting is that we should smile regularly when first meeting someone, then increase that ~2 days into a relationship. Or in other words, what most people do who have positive feelings toward somebody
/r/seduction27/10/15 05:39 PM
0

Let me point out the real problem you're facing: You haven't explained the rules to anyone. Let's say you turn 30. That day, the 5 girls are now 27, 29, 30, 30, and 31. How do you pick which one? Do you go with the 31 year old because she was 30 first? Or maybe you go with the older of the 30 year olds because she was the first to turn 30 and still be that age when you turned 30. Or should you pick the younger 30 year old, because she most recently met the criteria prior to you meeting it? Or yo…
/r/seduction21/10/15 05:28 PM
7

Easier than college, with college girls?
/r/seduction21/10/15 05:14 PM
2

It's really true. I spent a long time here working on confidence and that sort of thing, but the biggest improvement I saw was a new haircut and better facial hair, along with clothing on a smaller scale. And then the exterior stuff brings out confidence, so it's a win win
/r/seduction20/10/15 01:09 AM
6

Yeah, any one that actually read the book had already heard this. Not even just the end though, pretty much the entire book is getting at the fact that beyond internal beliefs, game isnt a real thing. The Mystery Method seems to be presented as a total joke from the very beginning, regardless of its huge success for mystery
/r/seduction15/10/15 09:03 AM
41

That fuck ruined women for all of us now. This was male-kinds one chance at convincing girls to do it, and this guy goes and messes it all up
/r/seduction13/10/15 11:27 PM
1

If that isnt a joke, no, but they all do ignore texting for snaps
/r/seduction10/10/15 11:13 PM
1

Friday the 9th
/r/seduction10/10/15 07:50 AM
12

Yeah man, shes a total slut, stay away or youll get AIDS. Seriously though, it probably means she's in a sorority and snaps instead of texting.
/r/seduction10/10/15 07:48 AM
1

I like this advice. Learning how to sleep with girls is nice, but the real lesson to be learned from pickup is how to adapt to new situations. Start to learn what other people are thinking, and you'll never need a trick again
/r/seduction10/10/15 02:54 AM
1

I think there's a subreddit for that. Called /r/seduction, or something like that
/r/seduction02/10/15 01:55 AM
1

I think there's a subreddit for that. Called /r/seduction, or something like that
/r/seduction02/10/15 01:55 AM
2

Truly the last bastion of purity
/r/seduction20/09/15 11:09 PM
0

Well, except most guys that are 9s and 10s. If you can already find girls interested in you off the bat in a bar any given night, tinder serves you no purpose. If you're in a frat on a college campus, you probably don't have trouble meeting women. The fact that you're even on tinder is inherently unattractive, which means you're disadvantaging yourself
/r/seduction14/09/15 05:21 PM
5

I'm not a fan of tinder, and it's for the same reason I'm not a fan of used car lots: Lemons. The average guy on tinder, and the average used car, are not as good as you would think. So if I go to a used car lot, I have to factor in the possibility that the car will be a total dud when first taking in the situation. In real life I can prove that I'm not a lemon immediately by being interesting and not weird, but on tinder you go from maybe a 7 to now being a 5 because she can't be sure you're no…
/r/seduction14/09/15 03:20 AM
2

Clearly these girls think he is. But what you're saying is essentially trying to say the answer to an algebra problem is "whatever x is". You're just restating the question. Why is he in the top 10%? Because if he can't figure that out, then he can't turn the variable that made him top 10% into a constant
/r/seduction07/09/15 09:37 PM
7

by her dog she meant her tits That is almost certainly one of the worst pickup lines imaginable. That doesn't make any sense
/r/seduction06/09/15 08:14 AM
1

Just because it is possible to make her not yours and lose her doesn't mean she was never yours. There are plenty of girls who end up in situations where they would never leave a guy unless the guy forced them away
/r/seduction18/08/15 04:36 PM
-3

Well shit, if that's reality then I may as well stop trying to get laid, if it's just gonna result in her leaving me, when masturbating is so much easier. If you assume every girl will cheat then you can't ever have a meaningful relationship, and is there really a point beyond that? If you don't care about the girl in any way, you should masturbate because that's quicker
/r/seduction17/08/15 07:22 AM
0

I mean, she can be his. Not yet obviously but there is a point in their relationship where it will stop just being his turn and she will be his, if they choose to go that far. Your way is a really depressing look on life
/r/seduction17/08/15 06:40 AM
2

Time for the shawshank redemption quote. "It comes down to a simple choice, really. Get busy living, or get busy dying". Do you think you should just give up? If you do, that's an awfully lonely 50-70 years ahead of you. Are you gonna get busy living and take some action? Life doesn't get any easier from here on out. The only thing harder than being a 29 year old with no experience is being a 39 year old with no experience
/r/seduction13/08/15 06:16 AM
0

To me that makes it the best one. No one will ever ask a girl the time to actually get the time, and she knows that. It's a way to directly show interest without saying it
/r/seduction11/08/15 05:07 AM
3

I feel like of I started doing this I would totally ignore the girls and instead do this routine for an hour, switching every 2 minutes
/r/seduction07/08/15 08:04 AM
1

The real passage you need to think about from Models is the need to be honest with yourself and with girls. Maybe i can buy you didnt lie to yourself, but you were lying to her for sure. You wont get anywhere gaming girls
/r/seduction06/07/15 07:16 AM
1

Here's a metaphor that i think can help explain this phenomenon: When a computer is playing chess, it ranks moves by the positivity of the potential outcomes of later moves. If a certain move results in 90% of later outcomes as positive, it will be taken. It will never be able to process every possible move, but it can group several in a branch into overall negative and ignore the whole branch. So while it realistically doesnt know that leaving a queen in front of a rook is bad, it can see that …
/r/seduction06/07/15 06:56 AM
1

I highly respect your huge step forward by doing this. However, like others have said, it isnt enough yet. You shouldnt have let her off the hook so easily, she has been treating you horribly for a long time. She will likely try to revert to her old pattern, and if she does give her one warning then leave
/r/seduction25/06/15 04:23 AM
2

He has a freakishly large mouth
/r/seduction07/06/15 10:19 PM
1

If you don't want her, do nothing. If she seems to expect more, reject her the same way girls reject you. Girls can pick that stuff up well. You have the right to change your mind. After all, how many girls have changed their minds on you?
/r/seduction07/06/15 07:03 PM
-1

I downvoted you because that will likely get you arrested in the worst case scenarios, and it shows false confidence and an inability to understand social situations. But I do believe it would work if you do it right. Because everything can work if you do it right. That's still never the best option though.
/r/seduction07/06/15 03:43 AM
11

Not sure if sarcasm, but... I don't think it was an insult. Sometimes you just need to hear how it is, and while he used a term associated with rudeness, he was using it to convey that the actions you claim are making you appear to others that way. In other, ruder words: Its not an insult if its true
/r/seduction07/06/15 03:35 AM
1

Aspergers is a medical condition, right? Well then, decide how you want to live your life, and start getting rid of the symptoms that you don't like. You're young enough that you can learn to break it. I'm guessing that almost all of the problems you face are a result of your aspergers. Which is good, because it is a self-treatable disease. When you see yourself acting in an abnormal way, ask yourself why you are, and decide whether it should be changed
/r/seduction18/05/15 05:27 AM
1

It only takes one to make things go right I always thought it took two to make the thing go right?
/r/seduction18/05/15 05:18 AM
3

Well if you assume that any given interaction has a success rate above zero, then they will benefit. Day game is not necessarily THE BEST solution, but it is a solution, which provides better results than sitting on your ass all day
/r/seduction16/05/15 06:24 AM
39

I believe you might be in the wrong sub, because here in /r/seduction, we don't make excuses like that. You've been dealt the cards you've been dealt and nothing will change that. Now go and make something of them instead of explaining why you haven't already
/r/seduction15/05/15 06:53 PM
1

Yeah, but I prefer to let them tell me about it
/r/seduction13/05/15 07:40 PM
1

Yeah, I figure if she doesn't say anything, she is close enough to single anyway. And then if she talks about a bf, I just cut bait because at that point one of is going to not be into it usually
/r/seduction13/05/15 07:39 PM
0

I don't see why availability matters. It isn't your job to keep her from cheating. If a girl says she has a bf, it doesn't have to be literally true. It's generally just a rejection line. There's no need to vet the girl before you hit on her. If she wants to cheat, then this sort of line just makes her less likely
/r/seduction13/05/15 05:10 PM
1

Girls also say they hate "Frat boys" too, but those frat boys are still getting laid. Judge people on their actions, not their words, because people are often wrong about what they like
/r/seduction12/05/15 08:45 PM
2

Just make sure you aren't trying to trick her over, and that instead you're just giving her an excuse to come over. If you do that and make a move when she's there then you'll be fine
/r/seduction12/05/15 08:37 PM
3

First step is to sell your car, second step is to spend all the money on hundreds of gallons of alcohol
/r/seduction04/05/15 07:33 PM
1

You probably don't carry yourself well. Girls listen to your decision about whether you're attractive most of the time, I'm guessing something you do tells them that you don't think they should approach you
/r/seduction04/05/15 05:57 PM
11

And in this game, grinding for experience is literally grinding
/r/seduction04/05/15 02:57 AM
2

Well I think twice now I got us onto something around us seeing us, once a squirrel and once people in a party, and replied to whatever she said with "well, let's give them something to watch then". Currently 1/2 on the kiss directly following.
/r/seduction02/05/15 10:53 PM
6

I'm still never gonna say it. I do just fine thinking up idiotic things to say in that situation myself, why would I want yours?
/r/seduction02/05/15 10:05 PM
15

That "Can I kiss your smile" line sounds absolutely terrible. I think I would rather die than say that. However, I fully believe it would work, because for some reasons the dumb lines have more success for me. I can't think of a single intelligent thing I've ever said to get a first kiss
/r/seduction02/05/15 09:44 PM
5

If you're homosexual, I'm pretty sure I figured out the issue you're having with hooking up with girls. The problem is you don't like girls
/r/seduction02/05/15 04:11 AM
2

This is the best in the thread. He isn't a standard douchebag, he's a guy that seems to commit every social mis-step possible. Sort of like a try hard, he's trying so hard to be cool that he constantly messes it up
/r/seduction01/05/15 06:26 AM
6

When you play the game of inches, you close or you die
/r/seduction27/04/15 08:08 AM
1

You can struggle after taken girls all you want, which will work often enough, but you have to realize that at the point she says she has a bf, you are in the negatives. If you find a neutral girl instead, there will be less work involved. The great thing about women is, you can start over whenever you want. So I don't see why you would choose to put in more work for the same result when you can just move on any time you want
/r/seduction22/04/15 01:10 AM
1

Maybe that example in particular may be reasonable advice, but literally any social issue I'm not taking his advice on, because he doesn't understand social issues
/r/seduction13/04/15 07:46 AM
0

I'm not saying a rapist can never give good advice or be right, just that I would never trust them to. I couldn't be sure that they didn't get to that conclusion through faulty logic, so I would ask a doctor about food and exercise habits instead. Being a psychopath like that guy seems to be takes away all his credibility in other areas of life
/r/seduction13/04/15 07:32 AM
1

I agree with the metaphor, risks are an important part of life. In a literal sense though, he is completely deranged. I don't want to ever be able to seperate myself so far as I'm willing to do what he did
/r/seduction13/04/15 04:51 AM
-1

The same reason I don't take advice from rapists. He committed a crime against humanity on a small scale without any hesitation, he is clearly either so stupid as to be an entirely unreliable source, or a certifiable psychopath. There is no opinion of his that I can apply in any positive way
/r/seduction13/04/15 04:48 AM
0

Watched that vine, who fucking does that? I understand the metaphor, but I'm not taking advice or guidance from anyone that would do that
/r/seduction13/04/15 03:42 AM
2

You should be happy it seems obvious. You aren't tricking her into sleeping with you, you're on a journey with her to fucking. She would not be in your house if she didn't want to sleep with you. Point blank, she would not be there. Sit down with her, watch something on tv, and kiss her at some point
/r/seduction10/04/15 04:30 AM
2

They're on the side bar, but not really hard to figure out with some time. The "close" language is to specify that at the point you left her, kissing had been done and was still on the table
/r/seduction09/04/15 06:03 AM
1

Seems like this is a huge problem in our world. People think they want one thing and then reward opposite behaviors. It's not just romantically, it's everywhere. "I'll never date an asshole", proceeds to disregard guys asshole traits because of their attractive ones.
/r/seduction09/04/15 06:00 AM
2

There are better places for that. There's nothing we can help you with in this post, and there's no insight provided. This sub requires actionable advice to be flowing in either direction Come back when you actually do set yourself back up, tell us how you did it, and that will be a good post here
/r/seduction08/04/15 12:09 AM
-4

Pretty sure they're $100 beats that sell for $300. Huge difference, they are good headphones
/r/seduction03/04/15 07:25 PM
1

Even if you assume a cheater is going to cheat no matter what, what's the point? Regardless you're working harder for the same goal. Single girls are far easier to get and don't come with the chance they actually won't cheat
/r/seduction03/04/15 08:40 AM
-2

It has points equaling 10% of the active population of the sub, i wouldnt say it has no attention
/r/seduction02/04/15 07:13 PM
3

Whatever feels right. Don't be worrying about it though
/r/seduction02/04/15 01:38 AM
2

Having a gf you really like is different from oneitis. That's a relationship. Ever talk to a girl once and start imagining your wedding? That's oneitis, and it makes you far less desirable because you are dependant on her without any sort of commitment on her part
/r/seduction27/03/15 06:55 PM
3

Isn't the point of those lines that she knows? I don't want her to get to my place and not expect a move. There's a reason they've stuck around, even though everybody knows them. Because they don't work if not everybody knows them
/r/seduction27/03/15 06:52 PM
41

Meth
/r/seduction27/03/15 10:42 AM
8

Coming here as a 19yo virgin, the idea of Kino was like having a lightbulb go off in my head. It makes a lot of sense when you think about it, but it isn't intuitive really. It's a building block that very frequently gets left out of stories and descriptions both in real life and movies. And you also need to understand why it works, which is even less intuitive
/r/seduction26/03/15 06:33 AM
1

Its hard to misconstrue touch. Do what it takes to get his hands on you. If not, some really dirty dancing usually works. Take the decision away from the head of his that might say no and show him what that ass of yours can do
/r/seduction23/03/15 08:31 AM
1

That is so untrue, girls sleep with ugly guys all the time, but I would not be down with a fat girl at all. Girls get judged on almost purely looks in those settings
/r/seduction23/03/15 08:23 AM
9

Is that when you spin for her and then she ignores you?
/r/seduction23/03/15 08:08 AM
1

I have a similar problem: I just enrolled in a new college course, and i'm worried that the final will be too hard. But seriously, fight that battle when it comes to you, because it probably wont. And it definitely wont if you stay in this mindset
/r/seduction14/03/15 06:53 AM
1

She probably ignored you because you wouldnt make a move. Dont be surprised of she thinks youre a pussy now. Sorry
/r/seduction14/03/15 06:46 AM
3

Get 52 girls numbers in a weekend, shuffle them up, and make it into a game for yourself over the next week. You don't want a girl that is unlucky anyway, right? This will confirm that you only go on dates with girls who have proven themselves to both you and fate
/r/seduction09/03/15 05:36 PM
6

This is like the perfect mix of a humble brag and whatever the opposite of that is
/r/seduction08/03/15 12:49 AM
8

I think the point was that these are two of the easiest things to improve your game/life that guys tend not to do
/r/seduction01/03/15 01:44 AM
-2

Or if youve only just graduated high school, it's a great change
/r/seduction13/02/15 07:22 AM
1

You get one thing easily: An easier path to self correction. Imagine how hard it would be if you actually liked having your personality the way it is. Just start now, start being who you want. Make corrections when you get off track
/r/seduction10/02/15 09:38 AM
16

First of all, there's no need for numbers to be involved in that conversation. She doesnt care about the numbers, she is judging your personality with this topic. But even if you're a virgin you'll be fine if you just own it. People only care about your number if you care about it.
/r/seduction08/02/15 08:58 AM
11

But they're all point #1
/r/seduction07/02/15 10:49 PM
2

Wow, Mystery looks like a cross between Aaron Paul and a neckbeard, I never knew. Also, I get the point about rejection, but both your examples seem way too out there. People that arent assholes or desperate dont do either of those things, why lead him down that path?
/r/seduction06/02/15 08:54 AM
7

Do you write the fortunes that go in fortune cookies?
/r/seduction06/02/15 08:51 AM
4

Me llamo T-Bone, la arana discoteca
/r/seduction05/02/15 08:39 AM
1

You need to get to the point where you are judging her for a date. It's a step, yeah, but why do you like her better than a girl of similar looks? There will always be hotter girls, so find out if this girl is worth the opportunity cost
/r/seduction27/01/15 09:25 AM
1

You've obviously never been to a college bar. I've been on my way walking back to her bed with a girl and have her ask me my name. Sometimes they just wanna get laid
/r/seduction27/01/15 09:12 AM
3

Is her name Lana?
/r/seduction26/01/15 07:43 AM
2

Well asking for her number is showing attraction right? So you can get her number immediately and still not come off desperate
/r/seduction26/01/15 06:35 AM
1

How much did you change from 15 to 18? If it wasnt "unbelievable amounts" you're lying. Imagine that, but controlled by you, changing into what you want to be, between now and 21. You're not a freak, just start talking to girls. You're 18, this can literally happen in 2 months for you, because you are at probably the most impressionable stage of life, since you are actually trying to change. As long as you arent complacent, you're gonna be fine
/r/seduction26/01/15 05:28 AM
1

vagina panties Thanks for clearing up that these panties are for vaginas, I was unclear
/r/seduction26/01/15 05:22 AM
1

You're always training to win, but what I mean is if you were running 6 miles at practice, you dont stay with the fast guys for 2 miles then drop to last, that isnt good training. You need to go fast enough to get faster, at a pace you can maintain the whole time
/r/seduction26/01/15 05:18 AM
2

I'm a fan of the 3 day rule lately actually. I thought it was dumb before I tried it, but it seems to work. Give her 2 days at least
/r/seduction26/01/15 05:13 AM
1

Trying too hard is when you try to make a bigger step forward than you can reasonably make. For instance, if you're the slowest guy on a track team, dont try to keep up with the fastest. Keep up with the middle guys and work your way up. Similarly, dont go from average guy to master pick-up artist over night. Start by becoming more social and talking to girls, then PUA comes on its own. Trying too hard with a woman is essentially desperation
/r/seduction26/01/15 03:56 AM
1

You're falling into the classic trap here of going too hard, and thus have come off as an asshole. Pull the reins on your new imagining and see where that leaves you
/r/seduction26/01/15 03:00 AM
2

I've noticed this lately too. Also hot girls never match me. So at this point im thinking I should delete the app to save myself some time where i can instead meet real girls
/r/seduction21/01/15 08:36 AM
2

If she's neither why are you even flirting with her?
/r/seduction21/01/15 08:25 AM
2

Yeah seriously, this guys trying to get her to sleep with him "with this one weird trick". No one is offended by opening meeting someone witha compliment. Seems to me like 90% of them are opened this way, just usually less direct ("Oh you're friends with Will? Awesome, he's a cool guy")
/r/seduction21/01/15 08:23 AM
3

As I pointed out, I do know how to ask that with proper social intelligence, it involves waiting until the 3rd date or so. Asking it with poor social intelligence is doing so when you barely know the girl. Its a first date for fucks sake, why would you want her to think that is who you are? Im sure it works on some girls on the first date, its just that if I said that to a girl and slept with her for it, I would certainly never call her back because I would have lost all respect for her. So in m…
/r/seduction29/12/14 07:48 PM
10

Why would anyone think that was good? Its awful. First of all, it's a fucking mouthful, and is clearly scripted, second, it would get you slapped by any girl with a modicum of respect, and third, it's incredibly douchey. Save it for the third date and we can talk, but I wouldn't be surprised if any girl he said this too got up and left right there
/r/seduction29/12/14 05:37 AM
1

If its fairly new relationships, dont bother, just let em stew for a few weeks. Start up with them again a few days before you get back
/r/seduction23/12/14 06:07 AM
3

Im gonna give you 5 stalks of asparagus, and you have to get laid without ever having them leave your hand
/r/seduction23/12/14 06:05 AM
1

Her best friend died, dude. Dont be so self-absorbed
/r/seduction11/12/14 10:38 PM
1

This article looks like its a heavily edited first draft
/r/seduction10/12/14 02:16 AM
6

This is very close to the borderline of FR and just bragging. For instance, you entirely skipped how you went from resistance to her wanting it with the second girl, and while you provided a few details here and there that seemed to imply something you might have learned here, it seems like you were more interested in telling us about how great you are at this. Is somebody actually going to learn from this? What would they learn exactly if they did?
/r/seduction02/12/14 10:58 AM
2

Thats actually all of tinder. Normally, The rules of Be Attractive/Dont be Unattractive are bull shit, but on tinder it really is true. My proof of this is that I have recently grown a beard which is apparently really attractive, and everything in person with girls has gone much better, while my tinder which doesnt have updated pics is doing exactly the same as always. Tinder is for attractive people. Just means less attractive people need to have more balls
/r/seduction02/12/14 10:51 AM
1

Youd like to make a move. Go do it. If you want to do something and you cant think of a good reason not to, you can either do it or never get anywhere in life. Once you strat doing things you believe are positive and are also things you want to do, you can start getting somewhere. Theres approximately 10 trillion words you can use to mold yourself on the sidebar, you should read them. 5 trillion of those words will be worthless to you, but only you will know which 5 trillion those are. Good luck…
/r/seduction26/11/14 06:19 AM
7

And drawing with the coffee
/r/seduction05/11/14 08:20 AM
1

Its not so much a shit test as it is you making her realize she needs to value your time. She was trying to treat you like a guy she wouldnt sleep with
/r/seduction11/10/14 06:03 AM
1

Seriously, youre just changing your normal rules into new rules this sub has said will work. The key is to do it without rules so you get out of your head
/r/seduction19/09/14 07:52 AM
-1

/r/theyburnedthisjokeintotheground
/r/seduction18/09/14 08:30 AM
14

Okay, yeah, he might be wrong. Some marriages fall apart. But at the moment he believes he has found a truly special person, so this is definitely the epitome of winning this game we call pick up
/r/seduction13/09/14 11:41 PM
1

It's touching, but romantically/sexually. Just touching is not Kino, it has to be in a way that helps attract her to you
/r/seduction06/09/14 08:26 PM
7

Its over. We're safe. "What happened?" I won
/r/seduction06/09/14 01:13 AM
6

The second one isnt a rule, its just a vague piece of advice, admittedly one which implys a lot to the reader. Not a rule though
/r/seduction06/09/14 01:09 AM
10

I think it's "you'll find girls with the least self esteem at a beauty pageant". Does that sound right?
/r/seduction28/07/14 09:25 PM
1

If your life is more than reddit and videogames, then your answer is in one of those things you do that make it not just that. Even if its just work, make a friend at work. But dont just make a friend. Make a friend with the potential to conceivably be your best friend, because this way you ensure you wont be only an acquaintance to them. Just start talking to them a lot, and at some point ask them to hang out with you. Nobody likes to admit that seduction is not only effective on women and in a…
/r/seduction02/07/14 08:12 PM
4

Youre the one that was asking about friends, i assumed you wanted them
/r/seduction26/06/14 08:59 PM
2

Find just one person you think is cool, and try to make them a friend. Invite them to a movie. Do literally anything with them. They have friends, make those people your friends too. Do this again with an unrelated person. If you can successfully turn 2 people who have never met into your friends, and each of them has their own group they do stuff with, you now have 3 friends groups. Use other peoples already established social networks
/r/seduction26/06/14 06:53 PM
6

Good point. /u/ThePUA_Baddie , you need to go check if she is still alive, that might be the reason she isnt texting you back. If you get there and she is alive, she will think you are so caring and that youre such a nice guy that she will feel obligated to repay you for your time with the sex you have shown you deserve
/r/seduction11/06/14 03:02 AM
1

Either that or compliment her on the broccoli in her teeth. I can never decide which to go for
/r/seduction08/06/14 07:35 AM
3

Clearly not, because he is here. Different people develop different strengths in life. I bet you have some weaknesses too, so why are you calling his dumb?
/r/seduction07/06/14 04:58 AM
1

Exactly, almost any date that doesnt go anywhere is gonna get that label, and she will obviously leave out the part where it being bad was entirely her fault. Good thing OP found out she was shitty though
/r/seduction04/06/14 06:42 PM
1

I disagree, youve already gotten past everything this sub is here for, because shes really into you. If you want to call her, do it. Decide what you want and go get it. Which is also a central message here, btw. She's clearlyinto it, so if you want to make her your gf, make her your gf
/r/seduction02/06/14 01:26 AM
-1

Ive been waiting for her to come for 2 hours now, but she keeps telling me to use my dick. Should i do what she says or keep waiting like you said?
/r/seduction02/06/14 01:13 AM
2

over powered?
/r/seduction27/05/14 01:43 AM
2

Right, because clearly it has never worked ever, thats why hes saying it has never failed him. Its not like there are any rules here, if he wants to use methods that are generally worse and then succeeds using them, more power to him
/r/seduction21/05/14 03:06 AM
29

What i do is just go on auto pilot, i go in my head for 5 seconds, start talking to them without ever realizing it, and then i wake up and im like "Well shit i cant back out now"
/r/seduction21/05/14 12:28 AM
1

Dont try to game them. Just be a good potential boyfriend to everyone. Highschool girls will play mind games, but at the same time, mind games will work so well on them. Everyone wants what they cant have, make yourself a scarce commodity
/r/seduction19/05/14 06:28 PM
1

As the people of /r/sex will point out, women want sex just as much as men do. Im willing to bet that your average girl has been on fewer dates in the last month than anyone here. Meaning if anything she should be more nervous as a rule, since she has more to lose. You can have another in 3 days, her not so much
/r/seduction14/05/14 07:08 PM
1

Well she certainly doesnt want a guy without confidence. Imagine I asked how to make mashed potatoes and you interrupt the guy telling me that i will need potatoes to say that I cant forget the sour cream, milk, and butter
/r/seduction14/05/14 09:10 AM
3

Then this sub probably wont help you. Find something that you like doing and own that shit. And getting fucked up, reading reddit, playing video games, masturbating, and watching tv alone all do not count. Watch a tv show with a friend. Then the next time you see that friend, you have something to talk about. Work from there, slowly becoming more interesting. Have people around you that assume you will be interesting.
/r/seduction14/05/14 08:53 AM
2

I didnt read this
/r/seduction13/05/14 06:26 PM
2

Wow, could you stop being such an asshole for one second and let these girls try to fuck you? I dont actually mean that, but thats how you should think about it
/r/seduction12/05/14 08:34 AM
5

Its from Archer, everyone makes fun of Lana for having big hands, and at least what is funny to me is that Lana's hands are, at worst, slightly bigger than average, and its definitely only noticeable if someone points it out, which people constantly do in the show, specifically Sterling Archer, who also often yells "LAAANNAAA!!!" whilst standing right next to her to get her attention
/r/seduction12/05/14 06:39 AM
3

LAANNNAAAAAAA!!!!
/r/seduction12/05/14 06:19 AM
2

I think what you mean is kino doesnt create attraction, which is fairly true. You cant just walk around touching everyone you see and have a mob behind you within a week. But it should build attraction if done right
/r/seduction03/05/14 07:36 PM
1

I couldnt tell if that was about weed or tall people, and it turns out it was neither
/r/seduction28/04/14 01:01 AM
1

I never knew retrogress was a word before, whats the difference between it and regress?
/r/seduction24/04/14 10:35 PM
2

Your badge should be in your mailbox by next week
/r/seduction24/04/14 10:34 PM
2

Average Frustrated Chump Glossary of terms
/r/seduction20/04/14 04:28 AM
3

Why would paying for it validate you? If anything youll probably feel shitty afterwards, since you apparently have to resort to paying for it. Thats not what i think, thats what i would probably end up thinking if i was in your position and did it. The underlying issue isnt lack of sex, its an inability to get girls interested in you. Fix the disease before you go fixing the symptoms
/r/seduction20/04/14 04:11 AM
2

Please elaborate on what you mean by "I just dont "get it"". Because i am kind of like that, everything socially involved seems to be so much easier for everyone else. I also assumed things would just kind of click eventually, and they never did. I am getting over a lack of confidence, shy-ness, never really "getting people". And you have a tendency to become interested in things just a little more than is socially acceptable, and even though you dont have exceptionally good awareness of your su…
/r/seduction17/04/14 08:53 AM
3

And then he couldn't suck your cock anymore either :(
/r/seduction16/04/14 05:27 AM
2

Oops
/r/seduction15/04/14 04:42 AM
2

Deaf?
/r/seduction15/04/14 03:55 AM
-2

If humans arent meant to be monogamous, why do men get so jealous when we see another man around a woman we want to be with? Surely we can find 5 others within the half hour, right? Its because when we fuck her, we need to make sure that the kid is ours, so we end up with a child we created. Why do 90%+ of every culture on earth value sexual fidelity if it isnt biologically programmed into us? Its possible that men arent best off being monogamous, i can definitely see where that argument would c…
/r/seduction12/04/14 05:06 PM
2

Every human being has a purpose in life to make their own life better and other peoples lives better. If you hit on a taken girl you make one person very unhappy and 2 happy for a short time, and one is you. If you turn around and look at the single girl, you make 2 people happy, one of which is you, without making anyone unhappy. Hitting on taken girls is a sign of beta-ness, you are telling the world "I cant get a suitable girl, so i have to resort to stealing other peoples happiness for my ow…
/r/seduction12/04/14 09:15 AM
-2

Excuse me, but monogamy is happiness. Humans are evolutionarily designed to be monogomous. If she is happy being monogamous with a beta, then you should not try to ruin it. If they are both happy, let them be happy
/r/seduction12/04/14 09:10 AM
1

Relevant Doctor Who
/r/seduction12/04/14 02:28 AM
1

How is that a good skill to have? Speaking French is a good skill to have, breaking up a couple for your one night stand is not, its a shitty skill to have. It has no socially desirable use
/r/seduction12/04/14 01:58 AM
-1

Regardless of whether this works, cant we all agree that this sub is not here to make us all assholes, and instead to make us attractive people? How would you like it if some prick started hitting on your GF with everything you say to do? Maybe he is better than you, maybe you are, it doesnt matter, just dont be that guy
/r/seduction12/04/14 01:08 AM
20

Nobody likes that asshole. If she has a BF fucking cool it, its not like you couldnt possibly find another suitable girl. You say you found out though, so i suggest you ask her. If she says yes and continues to flirt with you point out that shes flirting with you. Either she isnt, or you should encourage her to break up with him. Dont fuck a girl with a BF though
/r/seduction12/04/14 01:04 AM
8

It's when you only have sex to house music
/r/seduction08/04/14 10:54 PM
0

Youre the one that wanted tips on how to score with girls. You can watch the Golf channel 24/7 but you wont get any better if you never take a swing
/r/seduction05/04/14 09:52 PM
7

Get off reddit, idiot
/r/seduction05/04/14 04:01 AM
1

Im pretty sure a good idea for help with your tinder profile is to delete it. Im guessing most of the people on this sub are within the 4-7 range of looks, and while this is easily fixable in real life, since women care more about attitude, tinder is only physical, so if you look like a 5 and behave like a 9, youll get 5s and under on tinder and 9s and under in real life. Personally i prefer the 9s, but maybe thats just me
/r/seduction30/03/14 07:11 AM
1

Prior to saying anything, and definitely after saying anything, ask yourself what the subtext of the sentence is. If the subtext is something like "Youre my only hope tonight" or "Please fuck me", you will have her on a pedestal. Once she decides she can have you any day of the week, she never will. You're at that point an "Already had" guy
/r/seduction30/03/14 07:06 AM
1

Stop making her reject you before she's had a chance to make up her mind. Well actually she already has made up her mind, in a good way. Ask her on a date, and while on it remember that she wants you to kiss her. This isnt along the lines of fake it til you make it, she actually does, it would be an insult to her if you dont
/r/seduction29/03/14 07:27 PM
1

I've played it with friends and it was a lot of fun, but I've never had sex with any of the members afterwards if that's what you're asking. And i guess it's not really sexual, just kind of a fun game to play with anyone
/r/seduction16/03/14 09:29 PM
6

This isn't really a anything to do with pickup or anything, but it would be fun with a gf for sure. It's called psychiatrist, with like 5+ people. One person leaves the rest and is the psychiatrist, and the others decide on a "condition" that they all have, which determines how they respond to questions posed by the psychiatrist. This must always be fulfilled. For instance, everyone must answer with a word starting with the first letter of their name, or they answer for the person to their left,…
/r/seduction16/03/14 05:47 AM
2

If youre going as a PUA, you should go solo
/r/seduction13/03/14 05:13 AM
1

Maybe its just me but this seems to imply rape, which is really not what you want her thinking about
/r/seduction10/03/14 07:27 PM
2

Wanting a relationship is not a bad thing. That should be every guys goal here. The goal is not to fuck as many women as possible, its to improve your value to women so that the high-quality ones want to date you. Youre not dumb or a pussy for wanting a relationship, it would be shallow and short sighted not to. The guys banging a different girl every night arent more fulfilled than the guy spending actual time getting to know them
/r/seduction08/03/14 03:26 AM
2

I was following you right up to that last part there
/r/seduction08/03/14 03:18 AM
3

I dont like the last 2 at all. For the second to last, theres no need to call her out on it because you both know what shes doing, and it seems like youre saying that she has to now that shes gone this far with you. And the last one just sounds needy. It says that shes doing you a favor, and you need to have the mindset that youre doing her a favor, since she only got with you at all because you like her so much
/r/seduction08/03/14 03:16 AM
7

Are those real legs? Is it a trick of the camera? How could they be so skinny and angular-like?
/r/seduction06/03/14 11:11 PM
1

If she suggests another actual date/time/place as she cancels, she is clearly interested in you. Other people have lives too yknow
/r/seduction06/03/14 12:50 AM
1

Thanks for the advice, I really didnt kino at all and i should have. Im gonna text her tomorrow for a date
/r/seduction03/03/14 09:33 PM
2

This is a one girl example on the surface, but this type of thing happens fairly often to me, so im wondering what it is im doing wrong. So last weekend i was at a small frat party (which i am not in), about 50 people, probably 15-20 of which are girls. I start talking to this girl and her friend, giving the girl im interested in much more attention. were mostly just chatting, and eventually she suggests we go out on the dance floor. So i let her follow me (dont take her hand though because i fo…
/r/seduction03/03/14 09:03 PM
1

Or he was just trying to make it a good story, yknow, add in some trivial facts here and there to engage the reader
/r/seduction02/03/14 10:55 PM
1

Yeah, I noticed that too, its almost as if they have a biological need to breathe. Im looking into this as we speak
/r/seduction02/03/14 10:45 PM
1

Conventional wisdom here states you should limit texting to at most 2 sent by you before making plans. If she doesnt know your number make sure its a text
/r/seduction02/03/14 10:28 PM
1

Im trying to be a good girl This is the point at which you start either quoting or full out singing Billy Joel's "Only the good die young"
/r/seduction27/02/14 01:37 AM
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Oh, so the other two dick ones then? Good move, pulling your dick out a third time is almost always a bad idea
/r/seduction12/02/14 10:20 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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