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re I'd go on some dates at 6am. I thats interesting lol; the thing is noon or night dates often can lead to sex , if you have tight game and logistics lol
/r/seduction30/07/25 04:48 AM
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only money will attract a certain subset of women lol, if you think money will give you women, its a huge falacy, so if you want to have women on your terms, its more like a combination of all things, find the balance, always prioriteze yourself, or your business.
/r/seduction30/07/25 04:47 AM
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I record a lot of things lol, then put that shit on whisper ai and then pass it on to chatgpt
/r/seduction29/07/25 08:28 PM
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day game with an iphone on your jacket pocket works just fine, super clear audio when I play back on my mac at home,
/r/seduction29/07/25 08:17 PM
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text game basically just use for setting up logistics, for some reason guys think texting her and doing shit in there like bantering or joking will increase her attraction that shit just doesnt work lol, use at a minimun for banter and stuff and get off it quick, leave most stuff for when you are face to face.
/r/seduction29/07/25 03:13 AM
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apporach apprach always like a machine every oportunity you get on your daily life
/r/seduction28/07/25 05:53 PM
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foreplay is freaking important specially satisfying her, that shit will guarantee she gets more and more attached to you LOL
/r/seduction28/07/25 05:52 PM
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lmao I used chatgpt, and come to the same conclusion, do not over invest too much in a single interaction and always talk to more girls, the code has been cracked years ago.
/r/seduction27/07/25 11:34 PM
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I think age doesnt matter as long as you dress not so conservative LOL, as long you have interesting topics of discussing, actual tight game, you dress a bit sexual with some accessories and stuff, women love the years of experience in life matters and stuff.
/r/seduction27/07/25 07:47 PM
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feels like university venues are the best ; or actually the places near wealthy neighbors and stuff
/r/seduction27/07/25 05:22 PM
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use protection and dont do drugs or alcohol, its slows down your reflexes, its slow down your game, its lame, use actual confidence.
/r/seduction27/07/25 05:22 PM
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yes the idea is dont do that shit lmao, women are not attracted to that shit, the way to turn a woman on is with words and touch, learn how to give insane massages, learn how to turn a woman on with just words, dirty talking kind of stuff, the stuff from hypnotica about this is the best, do with that as you will LOL
/r/seduction27/07/25 05:20 PM
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hahaha lmao that was just before project holywood, crazy stuff
/r/seduction26/07/25 09:31 PM
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goat? when he literally soaked most of what he teached out of mystery or Style lmao
/r/seduction26/07/25 09:30 PM
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great answer.
/r/seduction26/07/25 07:16 PM
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hmmm
/r/seduction26/07/25 06:51 PM
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there is crazy amount of homade nowdays, with just regular people lol
/r/seduction26/07/25 06:50 PM
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this is the way lol, it should be like hey lets try this one technique and so on, that being said watching that shit when you are all alone is the path to getting deeper into the slump lmao
/r/seduction26/07/25 06:49 PM
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there is no point in watching that shit when you have no one to practice with, there is plenty of books that gives you sexual tecniques, porn should be though of as a guide in form of video but of course most of us dont see it that way, in fact you dont have to worry about sexual technique or giving girls orgasm unless you are going out with a lot of women and you have stacked a lot of dates with each, by the 3rd date most women will sleep if you do everything correctly lmao
/r/seduction26/07/25 06:48 PM
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great stuff!
/r/seduction25/07/25 01:56 AM
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understand that she wont be the last one specially if you game is not tight, you need experience and you only get that with dating lots of women.
/r/seduction25/07/25 01:56 AM
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mirror her actions and the true is she is losing interest, you didn't demonstrate enough value, keep improving your game and find more leads,
/r/seduction25/07/25 01:51 AM
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you have to win the parents, or the friend or whatever LOL, there is no other way, that is advanced mad socials skills.
/r/seduction25/07/25 01:48 AM
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and it feels like they are waiting for women to approach them first lol, its some crazy stuff, and weird, like those guys who are so in their head thinking you first need money and status and all of that and still lonely or dont get results, its a weird slump to be in haha
/r/seduction25/07/25 01:46 AM
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getting good with women = getting good social skills,
/r/seduction25/07/25 01:45 AM
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dude there is like no context why you are not doing good, you read a lot of stuff and feed your mind great ideas and practice sports, you are in good shape, thats good and all but do you actually approach women consistently? ; do you hit on them right away? , do you approach, demonstrate value, create an emotional connection, do you kino? you need some inner game and back to the fundamentals or whatever source of game you use.
/r/seduction25/07/25 01:44 AM
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keep pushing you might be close to a breakthrough, the game works dude, just gotta be persistent nad practice the fundamentals.
/r/seduction25/07/25 01:41 AM
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Neil strauss when doing online he used to comment with cocky funny stuff on their pics, or make funny remarks, or funny photo edits, Im guessing it will have a similar effect on instagram but in person will always be more satisfying and give you better results.
/r/seduction25/07/25 01:39 AM
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9/10 gets a response, interesting how many lead to a date or even being at your house?
/r/seduction25/07/25 01:37 AM
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thats lame man, if you want to do good in any online platform you have to be different to most guys, never ask for insta, girls give instagram just to get rid of the guy at the moment lol.
/r/seduction25/07/25 01:36 AM
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with women its more like Thumb wrestling LOL, otherwise decent list.
/r/seduction25/07/25 01:33 AM
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get lots of leads, just do regular game and you build a rotation.
/r/seduction25/07/25 01:31 AM
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you could care less about the smile LOL!
/r/seduction14/07/25 12:16 AM
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dude psychiatrist, stay away from SSRI LOL!, that shit is a mixed bag, fix things that you have control over like your sleep, your diet, do some cardio, become more social, start talking to everyone you meet, doesnt matter who is, start slowly like smiling to random women, then asking for random questions, you have a lot of work ahead, but you break the problem in small chunks, its better that way, Photography is a solid hobby that women also like or are interesting in.
/r/seduction14/07/25 12:15 AM
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more humorless rock-starts get laid that very funny stand up comedians, that might mean something right.
/r/seduction14/07/25 12:11 AM
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its calibration, you never want to do too many entertaining things, it should be just tools of the repertoire, in fact you should only do like 1 funny entertaining stuff per set LOL, this is all in the books, go read the damn books people! get off reddit stop cherry picking stuff and asking generic questions!
/r/seduction14/07/25 12:09 AM
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do meditation is you are overthinking too much, learn to be present in the moment, you can do that with meditation.
/r/seduction13/07/25 11:49 PM
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there is a huge rabbit hole of this stuff the old gurus used to call it value demostration, its goes beyond what mystery used to do which was magic tricks and shit, Style was the one that pushed that shit further, cold readings, mind games, there are millions of stuff out there about that LOL, some of that stuff is actually chick crack.
/r/seduction13/07/25 11:47 PM
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dude young women in your country are marrying a bunch of ugly old americans, I think tho you have to have your shit together, really well financially and so on,
/r/seduction13/07/25 11:38 PM
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the layguide has some amazing responses to the how old are you question, LOL!, with some speed seduction embedded.
/r/seduction13/07/25 11:36 PM
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sounds like Neil strauss game to me haha, David D was pretty decent too.
/r/seduction13/07/25 11:35 PM
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well you should never get to this point test you by saying: "aren't you a bit too old to be hitting on girls?" because if you apply good old game, Neil Strauss type of game, you'd know you only hit on woman who are already attracted to you, other strategies are just lame and will send down a spiral of trial and error until you hit the one who was already attracted lmao
/r/seduction13/07/25 11:33 PM
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you are only creep if you approach hitting on them right away, you must use lots of humor and stories, there are many examples that this is possible in fact women like older men for a bunch of reason im too lazy to type lol, but read up how Bruce Willis meet with his latest wife at a gym no less, huge gap difference, many other examples like that.
/r/seduction13/07/25 11:31 PM
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raw confidence
/r/seduction09/07/25 03:15 AM
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focus in yourself in the sense of improve your social skills LOL, that will translate to women.
/r/seduction09/07/25 03:02 AM
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awesome stuff
/r/seduction09/07/25 03:01 AM
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and it turns out water is just there almost free for you to drink lmao
/r/seduction04/07/25 05:09 PM
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Of course, it might work to some extent because it’s based on real material, but my point still stands: why use a watered-down version when learning the principles directly from the actual masters is far superior, rds people were clueless virgins by the time the great gurus figure it all out. In fact I would argue their material makes you more like a robot instead of really getting down the core principles.
/r/seduction04/07/25 05:00 PM
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lmao pick up is like 80% seduction but whatever
/r/seduction04/07/25 04:57 PM
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you mean doing a cold approach when she is walking? ; you can yell STOP but you also stop lmao, don't ever try to walk behind her, just use your voice. as if a woman is busy lol, if you are great seducer she will have the time to be with you, everyone loves to have someone to have oxytocin!, the hormone that outright destroys cortisol !
/r/seduction03/07/25 05:14 PM
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u act as if you dont care, you display a good personality, great value demonstration and tell her you are leaving or whatever, the next day make it a time constrain if she refuses you tell her, ok fine whatever, when can always catch up on socials or whatever. Be the one who is in control, and dont act mean or anything, dont react easier said than done lol but it is what is,
/r/seduction03/07/25 05:03 PM
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hahaha great
/r/seduction03/07/25 04:06 AM
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holy shit ; 2 years, what was your approach, who did you study, 2009 was still fresh for pick up and seduction.
/r/seduction03/07/25 04:06 AM
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if you're totally certain she into you yes, if not keep flirting, she is not going anywhere and you see her everyday, tease her, flirt with her, and just be social lol
/r/seduction03/07/25 04:04 AM
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you are working harder not smarter lol, I just will just repeat one saying, " a man should not have the right to hit on a woman unless she has shown indicators of interest" ; approach, SMILE !, do the opener and then demonstrate some value, and work from there.
/r/seduction03/07/25 04:03 AM
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date other women; post pics with other women ; its that simple lol, do that until you learn more game, the worse you can do is react, and dont vomit your feelings on her either. goodness and you meet her last year lmao
/r/seduction03/07/25 03:59 AM
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you stay centered, emotionally cold, take the attitude of "great I might enjoy this, lets see what happens if not, move on to the next one"
/r/seduction03/07/25 03:55 AM
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if you are beginner read books, read the game see how neil strauss went from AFC to sexually satisfied pua if you are smart you will pick something up.
/r/seduction03/07/25 03:54 AM
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totally stupid game, the only correct answer on what to do , is to have more options, way more options dude untul you wake up one morning and you dont feel desperate ; stack dates like crazy go out and get leads all poissible ways, from day game, nigh game, online; have more options and have something better to do in life than pick up;
/r/seduction03/07/25 03:49 AM
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crazy stuff, this is why pick up is the way for the unnaturals lol, men are against forces they barely understand, men need powerful tools others figured out before or lose time and energy lmao
/r/seduction03/07/25 03:47 AM
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it might work but why use watered down version of stuff the old gurus figured out first?; its best to learn from the best.
/r/seduction29/06/25 04:29 PM
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at this point pick up is the only thing that will get you out of that slump man, that is the road of the unnatural, read the layguide from tony clink and "rules of the game from neil strauss" they are both on archive(dot)org; you have a lot of work to do man; at leat you probably have your finances and profession on point, you need to deal with the women issue LOL
/r/seduction29/06/25 04:28 PM
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you are about to get the LJBF speech LOL, go to the books man, go torrent some books, watch some youtube videos, rehearse that stuff and practice.
/r/seduction29/06/25 04:25 PM
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probably too attractive and men are just so fucked up and with fear of rejection nowdays they wont approach , which is crazy this has been the case for years, but pretty women are just normal beings too LOL
/r/seduction29/06/25 04:22 PM
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this is on point!
/r/seduction29/06/25 04:20 PM
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well use texting just for logistics; it might sound counter intuitive, but be non reactive, be cold, when she cancelled the date, you are just calm and dont give it too much attention, but never again, invite this woman again, if she reaches out make it on your terms but the best is just to find more women LOL!
/r/seduction29/06/25 04:19 PM
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thats why you should stack many dates and also its most likely you didnt demostrate enough value, women always flake because the man doesnt offer enough value, too generic, Women have a crazy amount of options even the women who are not the best looking LOL, work on demonstrating value, read the old books man; speed seduction is still powerful, the mystery routines, there is so much out there.
/r/seduction29/06/25 04:17 PM
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practice talking to everyone on your daily life lol, have something more interesting to do than looking for women, for instance, its better if you are practicing surfing and you go out to the beach and while you are at it if you see a woman that catches you attention, strike up a conversation instead of just going out with the sole purpose of finding women, you know what I mean.
/r/seduction29/06/25 04:12 PM
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you seems to have the same of those guys who are addicted to escorts but not actual intimacy with women, its just practice LOL, get a girlfriend for a while explore her body and stuff ; learn from her and start from there.
/r/seduction29/06/25 04:09 PM
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create a cheat sheet with all you want to say, the openers, the value demostration, how you want to touch her how you want to create an emotional connection, rehearse that shit several times, against a mirror dude,
/r/seduction26/06/25 07:55 PM
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I dont get rejected, I only find out if she has good taste lol
/r/seduction26/06/25 09:40 AM
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by learning from others who became badboys, go read their books.
/r/seduction26/06/25 06:41 AM
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the best possible choice she can make is being with you, can you prove it?? probably not but its a really good perspective and reality to believe in.
/r/seduction25/06/25 01:08 AM
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omfg hahaha; go raw or wrapping that shit up, that was hillarious,
/r/seduction25/06/25 01:01 AM
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psychedelics one way, and rehanging the new believes ; imagining ; dude I actually dont know tbh I guess listening to a lot of material will help you change your believes in part, rehearsing stuff, there is this book called mindlines, I first knew about it on a david d seminar video, I would try that. or the hypnotica stuff is also good for this, I can't believe I dont have a definite idea how to change a limiting believe lol, i've been listening to a lot of stuff for a while.
/r/seduction24/06/25 11:27 PM
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read up the old stuff, its free and it works 100% ; read the layguide by tony clink then move on to other stuff like rules of the game, and work from there, there are tons of material out there, so make sure you learn from the actual best and not watered down modern version of stuff and practice as well.
/r/seduction24/06/25 11:19 PM
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you should study inner game stuff, there is an old tape unstoppable confidence by ross jeffries on youtube, itsl ike 1 hour long, listen to that stuff and do the exercises !
/r/seduction24/06/25 11:16 PM
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if you a certain frame of mind you must rehearse it, if you want a result you must rehearse it , looks like you need to rehearse other things in your brain my friend, you need some ineer game work.
/r/seduction24/06/25 11:15 PM
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internalize that every rejection gets you closer to getting laid, if you aim to become a good pua you have to ebrace rejerction , welcome it with open arms, not be cared by it, and approach women like a machine, like it s avideo game lol
/r/seduction24/06/25 09:25 PM
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online dating is shit and should only be complementary to actually putting yourself out there and talking to women in real life, in every situation, even night game too, and actually style advice on online dating although back then it was very different to now is to go completely out of the ordinary and what seems counter intuitive to most people, and this guy was bald, 5'6 scrawny with jewish nose lmao.
/r/seduction24/06/25 09:24 PM
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most advice is garbage actually from women or either a watered down version of the old stuff, the only great ideas that work 100% is what the old gurus figured out in the past;
/r/seduction24/06/25 09:21 PM
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there are also things like AMOG techniquest back in the day
/r/seduction23/06/25 10:18 PM
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you respond by being calm and centered and being more interested having the total certainty that you are the best choice she can make,
/r/seduction23/06/25 10:18 PM
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learn to be more interesting in dates if that happens, style used to do this shit and he was merciless lol, although he later teaches be respectful to the guy ask for his number too lmao.
/r/seduction23/06/25 10:17 PM
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only one thing went wrong he showed interest right away, women are used to this, they have an entire arsenal for that; being direct is most cases specially if you are new just gives the vibe of "hey hey about some dick" LOL
/r/seduction19/06/25 04:35 PM
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seemed like a kino girl, you should have done the same lol, skip demostrating value and go for kino as well, or something interesting, edit: and of course if you knew how to dance that was perfect; pretty sure was a kino girl. this was the most generic question you could have asked lmao "what do you do" on top of all that women are also ambivalent so there is that; and they all all the options; like you mention in the end; there are no failures only leanring lessons;
/r/seduction18/06/25 05:48 PM
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social skills lol, talk to everyone out
/r/seduction18/06/25 05:27 PM
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read up game from neil strauss double induction massage that is the best way to do that lmao; hands down; invite them both to your house, and set the mood for the whole routine.
/r/seduction18/06/25 05:18 PM
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dont get stuck in learning mode, practice stuff, even if its just in your room practicing fake smiles or delivering lines and the body language and all of that,
/r/seduction16/06/25 08:29 PM
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style EV is amazing LOL, because you build so much tension is pretty cool, and who doesn't like to bite a woman's arm and neck before kissing !
/r/seduction16/06/25 08:27 PM
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best comment,
/r/seduction16/06/25 08:17 PM
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short answer yes lmao dude you are 48, well my dad taught me this shit but just recently read on pua books that yes it does matter and the nose of a woman is 40 times more powerful than a man's so just use a little bit LOL
/r/seduction16/06/25 08:10 PM
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cold readings are powerful stuff
/r/seduction16/06/25 05:08 PM
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I know the feeling , I spent like 4 hours lmao ;
/r/seduction16/06/25 05:07 PM
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LOL go out and talk to women ; go and approach ; learn more game, learn to be interesting, get a great haircut, nice fitting stylish clothing and do something great with your life aside from pick up and you'll see result lmao
/r/seduction14/06/25 06:29 AM
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neil strauss is the best example why you need game lOL
/r/seduction13/06/25 10:51 PM
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that stuff is traninng wheels eventually you develope the confidence which comes from being with women and eventually it becomes part of you ; nothing wrong with that although modern shit is just a watered down verison of the old gurus lol
/r/seduction13/06/25 10:25 PM
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sounds like it was a connection just in your head LOL! ;
/r/seduction13/06/25 10:24 PM
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goddamn autoreact LOL!
/r/seduction13/06/25 09:08 PM
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but neil strauss was 5'6 big nose bald LOL! its more about grooming and style ! accesories ; convey the idea that you belong to a cool tribe and not just generic copy pasted clothing lmao
/r/seduction11/06/25 12:28 AM
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pick up is just training wheels ; its get much better over time.
/r/seduction11/06/25 12:24 AM
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the material in important but avoding getting in learning mode; you have to adctively apply this stuff out in the field.
/r/seduction11/06/25 12:23 AM
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the most random gurus I ever heard, just go the source of this stuff where it began go to the old gurus.
/r/seduction11/06/25 12:22 AM
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with tension and no kiss means most likely the LJBF speech LOL!, you live and you learn man; you always have to go for the kiss; go caveman; even if she rejects you politely its still better than not going for the kiss. There are no such tihngs as mistakes or failure only learning lessons.
/r/seduction11/06/25 12:06 AM
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dude look at sean stephenson ; check out his stuff on david d angelo seminars; it's crazy but its in our heads although I couldnt imagine being in your situation.
/r/seduction11/06/25 12:04 AM
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the best comeback from ross Jeff is like this; you deploy the line and then tell her, "okay that was a really corny line but I was seeing if you have any sense of humor ", or something along those lines, then you instroduce
/r/seduction10/06/25 10:03 PM
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LOL go on google and read up on that there is too much info to just give you a link, start with inner game stuff by him, look up on YouTube there are plenty of free stuff from the time
/r/seduction10/06/25 08:01 PM
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robin baker sperm wards book LOL, that shit used to be a must read for the guys in the pick up community things haven't changed.
/r/seduction10/06/25 08:00 PM
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open > demonstrate value > create an emotional connection > create a physical connection ??
/r/seduction10/06/25 06:42 PM
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If you had been laid recently, you would give much less of a fuck. Unfortunately because of this situation, you’re not getting laid. 🔁 Ad infinitum. this is the worse possible slump to be in indeed; holy shit op needs some inner work
/r/seduction10/06/25 05:54 PM
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internalize that the best thing to say to a woman is NO! ; do affirmations and repeat that for a while until you put in your unconscious mind; you are the price and you are no white knight either LOL! our thought controls our emotions and these control our actions, so take control of your thought !!
/r/seduction10/06/25 05:52 PM
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great stuff
/r/seduction10/06/25 05:52 PM
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yes totally its desperation that kills the mood and changes the energy; you need some inner work, don't put much attention to being accepted or rejected most guys are aware of the second one, but first is important too, yeah dude do some inner work read up ross Jeff for this stuff some powerful ideas there also its not bad to think for instance all the ways you can make her cum ; its stills equal but totally different frame you are the price and she is in for an adventure its all about the frame…
/r/seduction10/06/25 05:51 PM
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talk to everyone, listen more; get in good mood, sleep well,
/r/seduction10/06/25 05:46 PM
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you must abide by the 3 second rule LOL!
/r/seduction08/06/25 05:48 PM
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gamey things are your training wheels LOL, neil strauss tells you about this in detail on all his shit, he used game, he would have entire cheat sheets with routines and stuff eventually he would not use that anymore, but at first you will need that shit, routines, fake DHV stories, silly ass games, all of that. When our fathers failed up that's the only path for the unnaturals.
/r/seduction04/06/25 12:35 AM
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it could work to get rid of approach anxiety with zero expectations of having her number or a date but unfortunately most guys dont go with that frame.
/r/seduction08/05/25 06:10 PM
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| I love talking to strangers everywhere. bingo !
/r/seduction08/05/25 06:00 PM
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If I were you, I'd get good at day game and night game and leave that shit for last, the skillset is kind of different
/r/seduction08/05/25 02:42 AM
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or go to the books man; plenty of stuff there
/r/seduction08/05/25 02:40 AM
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yes very true too, but the best is casual fun sincere sp[ontaneous opener and then go into interesting things, demostrate value
/r/seduction08/05/25 02:39 AM
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tell her stories and humor
/r/seduction08/05/25 01:49 AM
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its words and touch ; where as for a man is looks, for them is just that, words and touch lol
/r/seduction08/05/25 01:48 AM
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it can work with a certain tribe of girls lol; im willing to bet not difficult but just not the right skillset, that is crazy amount of approaches and no pulls? did you really approached with " hey I think you are cute I wanted to say hi"
/r/seduction08/05/25 01:47 AM
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terrible opener man; dont hit on them in the first 3s of the interaction that is not a good strat, openers should be sincere, spontaneous, curious, funny, does that sound like "" hey I think you are cute""
/r/seduction08/05/25 01:36 AM
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genetics looks dont, its more like your grooming, your sense of style higyne, take a look of how neil strauss looked before becoming a pua, thats what I mean.
/r/seduction07/05/25 10:22 PM
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everything that others learnt you can also learn ;
/r/seduction07/05/25 10:17 PM
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dudee; I bet women are very pretty over there; dark black hair, bushy eyebrowns; awesome stuff
/r/seduction07/05/25 10:14 PM
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because looks dont matter lol; only grooming and style; some cardio on the side is good too; go to the books or befriend guys who are succesful with women; another story that shows money or looks dont matter!!
/r/seduction07/05/25 10:13 PM
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rutracker.org
/r/seduction07/05/25 10:10 PM
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lmao poor man;
/r/seduction07/05/25 08:21 PM
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nice guys are best example of incongruency
/r/seduction07/05/25 07:06 PM
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all that shit is on russian torrent websites for free; dont pay for that because a lot of people are reselling pirated courses online.
/r/seduction07/05/25 05:06 PM
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PUA books teach that as well so not sure what material you were styuding lol ; 3s rule and approach anyone
/r/seduction07/05/25 05:04 PM
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that thing from amazon would do well too ; just dont keep any chairs in your room ;
/r/seduction07/05/25 05:03 PM
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a two person couch on living room and no chairs in your room ; I had a stool tho and once I had a girl sit there and it was cool; also maybe one of those gym equipment bench press machines not sure how its called but it would do really well for sex as well hahaha
/r/seduction07/05/25 05:02 PM
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b* please, its reddit we are all nobel laureates here.
/r/seduction07/05/25 04:57 PM
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no dude, genetics looks dont matter as much as we think, its more grooming and style and belonging to a tribe you changces of meeting women of the same tribe increase.
/r/seduction07/05/25 04:53 PM
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|Book-smart however, does absolutely nothing for most women. pretty much haha;
/r/seduction07/05/25 04:51 PM
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women cant even define what smart is lol; its just a weird perception but I bet its more related to the skill and experience of the guy rather than actual raw IQ lol, plnety of actual smart guys who actually changed the world or created the foundations for shit we use nowdays weren't even that good with women.
/r/seduction07/05/25 04:50 PM
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its always the man fault he has to lead man; lack of skill , go on more dates and focus on what you did right,
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:39 AM
3

if your interaction was perfect; from meeting up to that point.
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:38 AM
1

when they ask you are you a player? you tell her, I can date whoever I want when I m not in a commited relation ,
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:30 AM
1

crazy stuff; holy shit im going to follow;
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:29 AM
1

hey man if you could tell us what was you r learning like you mentioned you studied this stuff really hard like preparing for some test but how you juggle work or school and actually practicing the theory?
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:28 AM
1

but here is the thing; just like there are books to become PUA, there are stuff for relations and stuff; there is stuff to make money there is knowledge for everything;
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:22 AM
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go to the books of the old gurus that is the starting point down this rabbit hole lol
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:21 AM
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| day game is much more effective for practice in my experience. But harder on location changes. totally man; women are everywhere so many pretty faces on a daily basis; some hold eye contact; this is incredible
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:21 AM
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crazy stuff man; most here arent even in your shoes and they come up with these ideas ; I cant even imagine what is like after the whole PUA experience, how you end up at the end of the tunnel lol
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:19 AM
1

holy shit respect
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:15 AM
1

a lot of that crazy material in on russian torrent sites , now go do your homework
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:15 AM
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holy shit; but with all that skill why no go out and find the right one?? ; do you end up not commiting o looking for more sex?
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:14 AM
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this is very real;
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:14 AM
0

Elder Scrolls random encounters: 5.5/10 (this includes supermarkets, stores, parks, bus stops, literally anywhere outside random like that. Grade is low because this for me was THE biggest high risk/high reward scenario; you need to look really good, be really smooth, and catch a girl on a really good day. Otherwise, awkwardness incorporated.) holy shit hilarious reference; but crazy its almost 50% success rate; that is crazy low; do you open with interest??
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:11 AM
0

how long have you been in the game?
/r/seduction07/05/25 03:10 AM
1

cool stuff!
/r/seduction06/05/25 04:03 AM
1

actual ground rules for begginers are to smile and say hi to women you pass by lol at a mall or something
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:57 AM
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looks adaptability , strenght value, emotional connection, goals, authenticity , self worth , its from style the author of the game.
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:26 AM
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those methods and style are the training wheels nothing wrong with that and trying to create your own from the ground up is a pretty bad strategy
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:24 AM
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LAS VEGAS attributes !
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:21 AM
1

I know the feeling lol; this shit might spiral into months of feeling like shit unless you actively work on meeting more women; I would do psychedelics if I were you ( I know I would do if ever get into this situation) but the best strategy is ejecting before that even happens lol ; get in the habit of learning about women and dating if you dont want to be in this situation again.
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:20 AM
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looks dont matter as much as we think; grooming and style is all you need, and belonging to a tribe that a woman wants to belong or visit; is perhaps the most important this is why you won't be able to date just any women, also they are turned on by words and touch lol.
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:17 AM
1

the women in enginnering and science lol
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:15 AM
1

its been always like that; since the time of the old gurus; women love all that on cosmopolitan magazines and shit;
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:15 AM
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there are more humorless rockstarts who bang lots of women that stand comedy people lol; as for your problem is reallly hard to tell what your sticking points by this post is lol ; how do you open ; how do you demostrate value? ; what interesting topics do you talk about? ; yeap not enough to go about, go to the books man; dont cherry pick stuff here;
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:13 AM
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women notice this stuff because they also take care or theirs ; yeap its great too;
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:07 AM
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men just need grooming and style lol; what neil has been tellings us all this time lol
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:07 AM
1

awesome stuff;
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:06 AM
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when she gives you the receipt or hatever tell her there is mistake with it; make her take a closer look and tell her "see right here there is a problem your number isnt on it " lol ; but dont do it lol; she is being paid to be nice, she is being nice maybe for the tip or whatever other reason, flirt with her a lot but only do that when you got lots of experience and can calibrate the interaction,
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:04 AM
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great answer ; however I would like to add that is also the perfect people to flirt a lot with and practice; specially if she flirts a lot too but yeap should open women out on the field not these women because pretty much what you said.
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:02 AM
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| if the date ends in a great kiss you can open the next date with a kiss too if you're that kind of passionate guy this is great !
/r/seduction05/05/25 01:12 AM
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no one cares, its all in your head but also one of the rules of this game is that you are not allowed to hit on her unless she is attracted to you lol , so there is that;
/r/seduction05/05/25 12:40 AM
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internalize that there will be more pain if you dont; imagine all the great amazing wild experiences you can get with women; and all you have to do is approach and open, break the problem in small parts, first work on your voice, make random calls ask for random shit, then talk to everyone, random questions, directions, then smile to women, then just say hi to women passing by , then later, open, open at every oportunity you get, an oopener should be sincere, spontaenous and funny, chatgpt can b…
/r/seduction05/05/25 12:38 AM
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you seed the idea of her visiting your place during the interaction and make sure you kissed her passionately lol; otherwise even if she agress to go to your place, she might be even more resistant if you start escalating there; the kiss during dates in important there are a whole lot more things but go to the books instead lol;
/r/seduction05/05/25 12:32 AM
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interesting stuff
/r/seduction04/05/25 10:36 PM
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I think they struggle because they get addicted to the power of how easily things work but not everyone is like that; there are a few who settled after all the crazyness.
/r/seduction04/05/25 09:56 PM
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whoa take a step back and analize what you are doing, if your effort to success ratio is that low you are doing someothing wrong, go over to the books man; dont cherry pick stuff here on reddit.
/r/seduction04/05/25 04:51 PM
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here is the practical exercise; go out and and talk to random people look them in the eye and record their eye color in some journal or whatever, start with normal interactions like cashiers and stuff;
/r/seduction04/05/25 04:48 PM
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you can warm up opening sets in another venue; do it early when there are not that many people, making calls, talking to people that also helps,
/r/seduction04/05/25 07:46 AM
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well you should never ignore the friends lol, you win her friend in this case the sister and the target is yours, at the high point you could have just said come I want to show you something and perform the cube or something cool like that; hmm but ultimately there is no enough to go on about lol; if you always go into a set with a clear structure of the things to say and order that would be better, you open, you demostrate value, (make her laugh , tell a story, a cool things that separates you …
/r/seduction04/05/25 07:13 AM
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crazy stuff lol the second woman that's hillarious; indeed this is well written like the old field reports; I wonder what style would have done lol; the mother of his child was a former model and later became like real state or some shit; dude you actually live in LA why not practice at the nightclubs just like the old gurus did, that would be insane, dude im actually studying style field reports, - next time try like an opinion opener; the one about your brother wanting to buy her gf some swear…
/r/seduction04/05/25 06:56 AM
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always approach no matter how cute she is , how smart she is , how is her personality, open her and figure out; but always approach,
/r/seduction04/05/25 06:40 AM
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this sub is filled with preudo gurus selling and monetizing their content, clueless guys asking for advice, people giving the most generic advice that leads nowhere, there is the ocasional post that is worth reading lol ; but its a a real tragedy.
/r/seduction04/05/25 06:38 AM
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Id say go with the layguide from tony clink its free out there online; pick up the names on that book and go from there into the rabbit hole lol
/r/seduction03/05/25 05:28 PM
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lmao of course!
/r/seduction03/05/25 04:58 PM
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MALLS, LIBRARIES, THE STREET,
/r/seduction03/05/25 04:53 PM
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pretty much the only eadvice anyone will need lol ;
/r/seduction03/05/25 07:43 AM
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the general rule is to never ever show them interest right away lol ; this is huge ; otherwise you will be branded the creppy old guy picking on girls; instead of asking how to talk to a particular girl start talking to every woman lol; and if you want that sort of experiences; go back to college; get into a masters program or short specialization ; thats what ill do in the future lol ;
/r/seduction03/05/25 07:42 AM
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that dude started poping up on my youtube feed lol; he has some cool insights and knowledge;
/r/seduction03/05/25 07:34 AM
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the layguide from tony clink , its online for free; that stuff is so old there is like no copyright anymore lmao; and of course the game and from there pick up on the people mentioned on that book and then go from there into the rabbit hole lol.
/r/seduction03/05/25 07:30 AM
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grooming and style will make you 6/10 lol; go to a hairdresser and show it a picture of a pretty cool haircut or whatever and go to a mall and ask women what style they recommend;
/r/seduction03/05/25 07:29 AM
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showing interest right away in the first 3 seconds with a chessy opener like hey I think you are cute or whatever; ignore her looks; open with something random funny spontaneous ; things like "hey so how was your day " use this one in the afternoon of course; dude just go to the books get off reddit ; learn the fundamentals and you can even train chatgpt to come up with some really cool openers taht follow those guidelines.
/r/seduction03/05/25 07:27 AM
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dude the material of the old gurus is so old they arent even selling that anymore ; not that im aware of , the only ones selling shity courses are the new gurus but its pretty much a watered down version of the old principles; all the great old stuff in on torrent sites, do with that as you will.
/r/seduction03/05/25 07:23 AM
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jon sinn is solid he is one of the oldest PUAs
/r/seduction02/05/25 11:12 PM
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dude I dont recommend doing it like this; break the problem into smaller pieces; first learn how to open women, then how to generate attraction; then how to number close , then the date , then the final step when she is at your home in your bed you know she likes you and so on;
/r/seduction02/05/25 11:08 PM
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you should introduce tocuhes with her jewelry ; with silly games such as thumbs wars; tell her; hey so where are you from? ; MIami or whatever and you tell her hey I havent beat miami yet in thumbs wars; silly shit like this from second grade is great; also learn some shit that actually separates yourself from the average like palm reading its silly its funny and you get to touch her; push pull the interaction like you look at her left hand , then the right and you say hmm so you are one of thos…
/r/seduction02/05/25 11:06 PM
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your friends already have a preconceived idea of you lol; find new people who are actually deep into this stuff.
/r/seduction02/05/25 10:59 PM
1

well yeap I think I I could see it working if you talk about interesting stuff afterwards and ignore her looks; but OP is describing what happens with most direct approaches out there lol
/r/seduction02/05/25 02:49 AM
1

the links are broken on fastseduciton; I only found some stuff from david D
/r/seduction02/05/25 02:46 AM
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yes the neil strauss archive is online on Russian torrents; same with mysterie's, however its only a few pdfs the stuff from mystery is way more; check on rutracker.
/r/seduction02/05/25 02:45 AM
1

the way I see it ; after he got engaged to ingrid he just couldn't settle for one woman; does that mean all the other stuff doesn't work and wont get you result? of course not lol
/r/seduction02/05/25 02:44 AM
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they are all shit; find instead a wingman; someone who is in the path of becoming good with women and dating;
/r/seduction02/05/25 02:40 AM
2

might as well say hey how about some dick! , same result more direct!
/r/seduction02/05/25 02:37 AM
1

hey looks like here is the fun; thats a good opener you can work your way from that lol; go to the books and dont cherry pick stuff here on reddit.
/r/seduction02/05/25 02:37 AM
1

if you didn't kiss her and it went okay ; chances are she is done with you for good lol ;
/r/seduction02/05/25 02:35 AM
1

your opener basically tells the women; hey how about some dick? ; only hit on them when you know she is attracted; your openers should be spontaneous, sincere; fun, and genuine. do with that as you will lol
/r/seduction02/05/25 02:34 AM
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no one cares man; they might think you know each other, or they might be in their heads too thinking they are being judged; its the hardest part to overcome but I found that talking to everyone helps a lot;
/r/seduction02/05/25 02:29 AM
1

style and grooming; looks dont matter as much; consult a specialist for the scar issues; whiten your teeth; shave the back of your neck; its all grooming lol
/r/seduction02/05/25 02:27 AM
2

| Have a strong frame such as ??, do you use affirmations; what things do you rehearse for a particular frame I would love to read more; I'm studying Ross Jeffries and he talks about this stuff;
/r/seduction02/05/25 02:26 AM
2

models is like just be yourself ; the game is more about the stories and you have to pick up the stuff from there; I would much rather re read the game again ; and pay attention to what Neil did to become so good lol ; check out all the gurus he studied. Also mark manson was a clueless baby by the time the old gurus where creating all this seduction stuff lol.
/r/seduction02/05/25 01:55 AM
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yes that stuff works; as for people who think its manipulation who the fuck cares; thats how unnaturals learn and it works so who cares; just leave the woman better than when you found her.
/r/seduction02/05/25 01:38 AM
2

study the material of david d angelo for othis stuff;
/r/seduction02/05/25 01:30 AM
1

that's supposedly what the total 10s do
/r/seduction02/05/25 01:28 AM
0

you set boundaries, just like trump did with the border ; thats setting boundaries you might have to work on your character too thats part of it,
/r/seduction02/05/25 01:27 AM
5

confidence comes from sexual competence lol ; there is no easy fix just gotta start approaching women and getting their validation there is no other more important trick or idea when it comes to confidence.
/r/seduction30/04/25 07:53 PM
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grooming and style is imporatant ; looks are not; huge difference there; and your style wont get you get every woman but a decent amount of them if you approach women like a machine; in everyday situation.
/r/seduction30/04/25 07:50 PM
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holy shit and you are talking here from experience? do you have enough data to come to that conclusion; thats pure bs; every women will respond to you opening most people are raised to be polite.
/r/seduction30/04/25 07:42 PM
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for lack of better word they call psychedelics drugs; but this shit is way more than that; do with that as you will lol
/r/seduction30/04/25 07:38 PM
1

For me personally, once I have sex with a woman I have all the power over her because I show her a good time and now she is hooked. Women’s behaviour change drastically after good sex, they start becoming clingy, they start double texting you, they change their plans just to hangout with you etc etc. this is interesting
/r/seduction30/04/25 07:36 PM
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well yeap if you just go on and hammer her she is going to be pretty desatified lol; its beyond the point; you will have plenty of time to practice if you follow the PUA path;
/r/seduction30/04/25 07:36 PM
2

this sounds like fun ; thats one way to level up ; hanging out with people who are on the same path! good luck to you guys!
/r/seduction29/04/25 02:19 AM
1

who???
/r/seduction29/04/25 02:00 AM
1

thats how you start man; smile; say hi, give compliments then deploy openers that are fun spontaneous and neutral; start from there also become more social by talking to everyone, become the friendly drunk at the bar; but you are not actually drunk.
/r/seduction29/04/25 02:00 AM
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tell her to get a dog if she wants a friend, reach out to you when she is ready
/r/seduction29/04/25 01:58 AM
2

psychedelics before lol; psy yourself up also talking to everyone doing day game ; hit a place where you just don care and then go and approach the place you want;
/r/seduction29/04/25 01:42 AM
1

talking to everyone; mixing compliments; silly comments; fun facts; obvious questions about the current moement; always with everyone;
/r/seduction29/04/25 01:34 AM
2

you have to get in bed with 10 other women and then see if she really was the one lol
/r/seduction29/04/25 01:27 AM
1

you win over her female friends and male orbiters ; always respect them or they will give you a hard time and probably lose the girl
/r/seduction29/04/25 01:23 AM
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read the game from neil strauss and from there you can choose many many options and how to do things; try everything and see what works for you;
/r/seduction29/04/25 01:20 AM
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talk to everyone ; and approach women with casual spontaneous ; fun; openers ; dont do the hey you look cute give me your number; in the mind that translate to "hey how about some dick" ; learn to be more interesting that most dudes out there; talk about interesting stuff; well go the books man; you will not find good info here on reddit.
/r/seduction29/04/25 01:17 AM
2

Im pretty sure 10/10 women dont feel bad about it so why would you lol
/r/seduction29/04/25 01:15 AM
2

holy shit dude; 155 approaches and only 6 women gave you numbers and 2 will go on a date; that effort to success ratio seems pretty bad to me ; seems like you are not demostrating value; and showing interest in the first 3s is very amaterur ; but well its better than nothing I guess
/r/seduction29/04/25 01:14 AM
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talk to everyone ; everywoman too that yo meet on your daily life; ; and let go of the outcome; open with something fun; spntaneous and curios ; it could be statements about the current circunstance and such; talk to everyone ; on books you can also find the signals women give when they are interested ; crazy shit but I just recently learnt and that shit was deep ;
/r/seduction29/04/25 01:12 AM
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reading at that you lack game lol; could have closed it there; but no enough skill
/r/seduction29/04/25 01:05 AM
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its a total tragedy I feel like /oickupartist sub is better but still nothing compares to the old forums when people would write long elaborated field reports full of detail of their interactions; you learn more like that compared to the motivational cluless post.
/r/seduction27/04/25 11:47 PM
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he should work online and live the best of both worlds;
/r/seduction27/04/25 11:44 PM
2

tell us more about this hostels trips lol;
/r/seduction27/04/25 11:44 PM
3

whoa damn ; awesome comment lol ; totally explains the issue some men have with numbers that go nowhere
/r/seduction27/04/25 11:41 PM
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numbers game is you are doing pretty generic stuff I bet; like showing interest in the first 3 seconds of the interaction, style used to convey interest first and then calibrating the interaction to make sure the girl was hooked in order to not get a flakey number.
/r/seduction27/04/25 11:40 PM
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lol
/r/seduction27/04/25 11:33 PM
1

style actually started off talking to everyone ; whether old woman; child whatever talking to everyone making random calls to get into that state; and for the actual approach small baby steps too ; until you can deploy a full opener lol
/r/seduction27/04/25 11:31 PM
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you miss the shot 100% when you dont approach
/r/seduction25/04/25 10:36 PM
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not enough to go on about lol; we dont know how you open what you say; but ask yourself this question; pretty women get approached all the time; are you offering something that stands out a bit? do you tell stories High value demostratou have to stand out; get off reddit and read books on this stuff;
/r/seduction25/04/25 10:35 PM
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figure out what other did and do it yourself go read books on this stuff;!!
/r/seduction25/04/25 10:32 PM
1

| Tried couple of times but they literally asked to go away. Im willing to bet your energy in not the same its lower; you have to approach with sightly higher energy and mood leve
/r/seduction25/04/25 10:30 PM
1

style and mystery are the gods of night game; where as I would consider ross jeff better for day game and approaching single women study their ideas if you want to get into that; for instance they came up witha pretty cool opener that is as simple as Hey looks like the fun is over here!!
/r/seduction25/04/25 10:29 PM
1

whoa interesting lol; good PUAs are them pleasure doms lmao; this shit is pretty detailed; the more pleasre you give to her; the more she is hooked to you; the oxytocin will bing her back wanting more; I didnt know that term ; but this idea is pretty well documented and the reasons behind; books like sperm wars discuss these ideas too; as for signs well PUAs are well grommed, stylish and very confident;
/r/seduction25/04/25 10:26 PM
1

| RSD Max, Julien, Tyler, Todd V All these guys a bunch of social robots lol; well its better than being AFC right!
/r/seduction25/04/25 10:22 PM
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that is so ross jeffries lol; holy fuck im so broke that 200 for me ins huge; I live in 3rd world country; college student broken and slave lmao
/r/seduction25/04/25 10:14 PM
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stop going full on the full appraoch lol; I recommend reading ross jeffries stuff for this; go on google torrent his stuff; break that shit in small chunk size; being first just smiling to women that pass by; do it like crazy 100 women; or more; then actually just say hi and wave your hand; then just ask for random shit like directions and leave it at; then do compliments genuine or not; just for the practice; dude it goes like that until you can open ; get 3 canned openers; openers should be ne…
/r/seduction25/04/25 10:13 PM
1

keep going them lol; start approaching the hot ones; become more interesting; read about styles LAS VEGAS idea ; see which of those attributes you are missing; you are ahead already.
/r/seduction25/04/25 10:10 PM
1

blonde models hmm , if you are not matural you are looking at about performing 2k solid interactions with women go read the game lol
/r/seduction24/04/25 04:59 AM
1

wrong terrible frame, it should be instead men lack the skill, but anything anyone already figured out you can also learn as well.
/r/seduction24/04/25 04:55 AM
1

fuck me eyes lmao what doggy dinner bowl face more like
/r/seduction24/04/25 04:51 AM
1

the hardest part is the approach and the kiss; its all figured out in the books lol like an algorithm, I suggest going there and trying that stuff for yourself and then when you get actual problems in the filed cherry pick stuff here but this sub is but a tiny reflection of the pua forums back in the day,
/r/seduction24/04/25 04:49 AM
1

you can feel it when it happens ; you can feel when she wants you to open ; trust your gut and instinct
/r/seduction24/04/25 04:39 AM
1

the hesitation is fucking hard man; I recommend Ross Jeffries ideas to push thourgh this shit lol; tell others just go for it ; is not gonna do much for some of us lol
/r/seduction24/04/25 12:12 AM
1

amateours show interest right away ; just open with a genuine spontaneous funny opener;
/r/seduction20/04/25 05:26 PM
1

something between a night of hot steamy sex to having 5 children hmm
/r/seduction20/04/25 05:25 PM
1

you can breed what in psychology they call sexy sons and daughthers
/r/seduction20/04/25 05:24 PM
1

at yoga or things like that too;
/r/seduction20/04/25 05:22 PM
2

there is plenty out there on books you can even ask chatgpt im serious with the right prompt lol ; write down that shit on your room on your bathroom mirror cabinet; like a hypnosis theraphy room and you will begin to internalize that;
/r/seduction20/04/25 05:22 PM
1

libraries book stores; on the street;
/r/seduction20/04/25 05:20 PM
1

ignore them lmao;
/r/seduction20/04/25 05:16 PM
1

physical attraction is not the same; for both; they do however focus more on your grooming; your style; do you belong to a cool tribe or you dress and look generic???; do you wear a conversation piece? women almost never approach and that is 100% true for the 10/10 ; she might glance at you several times; she might get into your personal space hoping that you open her but they almost never initiate the conversation lol
/r/seduction20/04/25 05:15 PM
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you need humor and a huge fukcing smile but if you have no experience in this shit; the best way is to say "pleasure meeting you" there are no bitches or things like that; guys who really think like that wont do well in the game of women.
/r/seduction19/04/25 09:25 PM
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be neil strauss lmao
/r/seduction19/04/25 09:21 PM
1

they say the best way is using style's double induction from the book lol; pretty cool stuff ; I fumbled getting sex just out of shyness and insecurity lmao; even onces because of not having condoms and it happened same day in tthe morning and then at night the girl called me again and I had forgotten again lmao
/r/seduction19/04/25 09:08 PM
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at one point I read hynoptica used to lay a lot of women and then he allowed himself to become fat and he was still pretty succesful lol;
/r/seduction16/04/25 02:18 AM
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talk to everyone at the gym ; get into that mood and use the 3s rule when approaching a girl its just like any day game situation; just to talk to them lmao ; you will figure it out if she is single or not;
/r/seduction16/04/25 01:47 AM
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hahaha; awesome
/r/seduction16/04/25 01:45 AM
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you can use a cocky one that goes ike this; Hey I noticed you checking me out but how come you didnt come and say hi ; are you shy or what; and go from there;
/r/seduction16/04/25 01:44 AM
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pretty much
/r/seduction16/04/25 01:43 AM
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that's when you use a canned opener or sone you got yourself on the spot but this takes practice; not all eye contacts mean she is into you lol; does she keep looking; does she look down or to the side? ; you need a lot of experience to tell this ; go out and pracrice
/r/seduction16/04/25 01:43 AM
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Did you ever fumble an opportunity to have sex? oh yes ; plenty hahaha
/r/seduction16/04/25 01:26 AM
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kissing ; passionate hardcore kissing is indeed the greenlight for do you want to go back to my place; she already knowns what is all about; unlike guys who dont kiss but tell her like wanaa see my cd collection at my place lmao and then try to escalte there; wrong!!
/r/seduction16/04/25 01:26 AM
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short answer yes; they even give signs when they are attracted to you ; however perfect 10's they dont do this; for isntance when you lock eyes and she looks down ; that s a sign of interest ; you should approach and open her; same with the kiss; in fact you better get good at the kiss because if not ; you will get the ljbf speech lmao
/r/seduction16/04/25 01:24 AM
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Just tell her that you think about her all the time. for real? lol
/r/seduction16/04/25 01:21 AM
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lmao no ;
/r/seduction16/04/25 01:20 AM
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perfect 10's are really good at game; she is literally push pulling you lol; these girls are the ones you either get because you are really good at game or you lost your virginity at like 12 yo and have been fucking non stop since then aka a natural;
/r/seduction16/04/25 01:20 AM
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jfc , the advice in here is so shallow and lacks depth, lol, nothing like the actual field reports back in the day ;
/r/seduction16/04/25 01:10 AM
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South America: Noob level lmao why is that; hahahha
/r/seduction16/04/25 01:03 AM
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hypnotica, neil strauss, ross jeff, mystery the stuff is all over the internet on torrent sites; then just go out and practice and calibrate thing from real life experience. and having wingmen also would be great.
/r/seduction16/04/25 12:57 AM
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psychedelics or become a social animal talk to everyone; at every time; start slowly big wins eventually youll change those habits ; drinking slows down your game; your learning ; and reflexes;
/r/seduction10/04/25 01:14 AM
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there is no such thing as bitches or hoes lol; guys who think like you dont do well;
/r/seduction10/04/25 01:13 AM
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you figure out what went wrong asking other players or going back to the books and the material; and always remember to keep approaching more women ; and move on ; yes and its alwya syour fault; there is no such thing as bitches and no situation is impossible;
/r/seduction10/04/25 01:12 AM
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self esteem doesnt exist lmao ; its habitual pattern of behaviors; that is something you can change and your brain will adapt
/r/seduction10/04/25 01:06 AM
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read rules of the game my dude; you gotta start at the real bottom; first smiling at random girls; talking to people ; clerks at stores ; cashiers; people on the phone; then start by giving complements to girls; whether fake or real like nice shirt or nice shoes; all the way up to actually opening a single set
/r/seduction10/04/25 01:06 AM
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the clip where he is drunk af ; that was priceless ;
/r/seduction10/04/25 01:01 AM
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you become more natural and spontaneous with this shit with practice; all methods out there are training wheels that is the path of us the unnaturals
/r/seduction10/04/25 01:00 AM
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lmao right !
/r/seduction10/04/25 12:59 AM
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the rules of the game stay the same indeed haha
/r/seduction10/04/25 12:59 AM
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wtf are you talking about richard la ruina is old different type of method and system that gets results its nothing inferior when it comes to mystery method; mystery is the master of group interactions; there is nothgn out there better when it comes to opening big groups of people and creating attraction is the best shit for night game out there;
/r/seduction10/04/25 12:58 AM
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short answer yes it works if you are lucky and worthy you will find a way to get all that material lol
/r/seduction10/04/25 12:56 AM
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put yourself out there and gain experience lmao; get off reddit ;
/r/seduction10/04/25 12:54 AM
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I ditched that fucking shit and went out and meet women on public places; college campus; granted im still in colelge lmao; libraries, malls, parks and plazas like those in south america you find everywhere those are the changes that matter lol
/r/seduction10/04/25 12:53 AM
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if its new modern young coaches you can find better in older stuff lol
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:53 PM
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talkto everyone; talk to every woman you see; aks for random shit ; ask for fake directions, give a complement ; thats how you psy yourself up practice practice andpractice
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:50 PM
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calibration of course; you don't want to look like the clown
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:42 PM
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that's a nice bracelet there must be a story behind! it he should also give him his business card so she is not unconfortable and maybe she will call him
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:37 PM
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wtf did you just said ; so much text lol; op sjhould just medicate ; cultivate the art of meditation and breatihing that will get you out of your head and in the moment;
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:35 PM
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create a script ; create a cheat sheet with everything you want to say; the routines and the interaction ; the stories; be also open to spontaneity of the moment ; number should be done nearing the end when you know she is hooked to you ; and for fucks sake stay there for a moment and talk some more ppush it 20% more; if you made her laugh that is huge; you can open with cheese lines and then tell her just kidding I was discussing with my friends ( from reddit we are all friends right? )) about …
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:34 PM
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dinner should only be if she is already sleeping with you; invite her to buy groceries with you or to buy shoes or whatever; go on roller blading or whatever is called; do sports together ( she can change clothing at your hourse for logistics hehe) ; invite to your local ikea and fool around with stuff; a free cheap hike; good budget lay that sounds like a cool name lol
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:30 PM
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if you want to put up shows keep them really short and maybe something related only to comedy; that works pretty well too; s
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:24 PM
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never go there lol; the best strat is too work really fucking slowly ; like I said above the massaging is very improtant; you can even do stuff like breathing in her neck for like ten min until she get goose bumps; heavy make out should only be done after all of this stuff when you are know she is ready for it ; and then thats when you can escalate the touching in parts;
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:23 PM
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these comments lol; nothing practical its hilarious
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:21 PM
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there are gazillion ways and techniques to do that ; suffice to say watching a lame show is the worse of them all; you have to create then entire atmosphere; she probably felt asleep because the whole thing was boring lmao here ill give you a clue just to keep stuff fresh in my head; the answer is massage lol; learn to do massage; start slowly with hands; learn to do this stuff right; on hands; slowly work your way; then on her back; you sit on top of her slolwly until she removes her top ; crea…
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:20 PM
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I 've read the way to do it is just outside a the coffee shop on a really busy venue; or mall ; but still the chances are quite low lmao ; but seems like a fun experiment
/r/seduction09/04/25 11:12 PM
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it depends on her schedule; it work on busy places ; really busy places to make her more confortable; malls; I want to try just opening with ; hey lets grab some coffee right awya haha
/r/seduction09/04/25 02:40 AM
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lay guide from tony clink start from there lol ;
/r/seduction09/04/25 02:37 AM
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its the path of the unnaturals lol ; women nowdays do the same anyway ;
/r/seduction09/04/25 02:37 AM
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needs to stack up dates fast once you start getting to a lot of dates thats the moment;
/r/seduction09/04/25 02:32 AM
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seems like you are being a selfish scum and you are only prioritazing youself; go on another romantic date; similar to when you guys first started out; and when you get to sex actually make her cum a lot first and then you ; that's my theory lol
/r/seduction09/04/25 02:28 AM
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study how to do cold approach right ; never ask for a number right away; build some attraction first; some intesest ; don't open with "hey girl you look pretty , I wanted to meet you or some other stupid shit you see in 90% of youtube channels; that basically conveys to her unconscious mind; hey how about some dick; " the guy jack denmo has some cool material but really the best shit comes from older gurus;
/r/seduction09/04/25 02:26 AM
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that connection means; you are boring and didn't talk about interesting topics; no stories ; no value demonstration ; no humor ; it all boils down to that shit lol
/r/seduction09/04/25 01:48 AM
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dude there is whole entire level of making a woman feel safe ; its not about physical strength or height or whatever ; for me neil strauss is the best example ; there will be plenty of women out there who will be okay with a guy that is at least taller than then ;
/r/seduction07/04/25 12:39 AM
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you tell her with a smirk ; anything in between from a wild night of hot steamy sex to having 12 children. damn I cant remember where I saw this shit ; maybe on youtube or some interview or somewhere but I wonder if it would work hmm
/r/seduction06/04/25 07:11 PM
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you will have to need more than a simple mindset lol ; you have to study like crazy the old gurus; get obsessed over that stuff; apply and apply and go out into the field.
/r/seduction06/04/25 07:08 PM
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1 week apart and date other women lol ; just because this one gave you sex doesnt mean shit ; always prepared
/r/seduction06/04/25 07:07 PM
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if you are turned on and you start chasing you already lost lol ; thats part of the game
/r/seduction06/04/25 07:06 PM
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3 years only 2 women in real life ; those are rookie numbers ; you have to pump those to 6k women at least lmao ; neil strauss says he did about 2k approaches in 1.5 years so put that into perspective lol that man at the time was out of this world for this now imagine ordinary men like us;
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:54 PM
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you are getting call out all over the post so I hope that is some real good feedback for you. besides most people are just regurgitation the knowledge of the old gurus lol
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:49 PM
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you post says " how I explain on my book or something like that lol "
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:48 PM
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middle east smoked eggplant sauce is the best !!!
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:47 PM
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lmao
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:47 PM
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lmao wait are you guys serious this shit would be funny but could come across as disrespectful?
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:46 PM
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if you train chatgpt with the right inputs you will be suprised the shit it will come up with and then go out and use it in the field and you will again be surprised ; also shit like notebook lm is insane when you are studying this shit from audios and pdfs ; the future is now lol ; ai is your best wingman and your phone too.
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:45 PM
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totally agree; these people are paid to be nice to you ; neil strauss himself said this too ; you should approach women out in the field instead ; same with bartenders and women in restaurants ; however you can practice some routines on these people but should be done just for practice .
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:40 PM
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some are hot ; not eveyone at least here in my small town but holy fuck yes they flirt a lot ; with everyone thats why its so tricky ; you have to first show genuine value to her ; before making the move;
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:39 PM
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when she gives you the receipt you tell her; hey wait there is a problem here with my receipt..... you number isn't in it ; but the number close should only be performed when you are sure she really has interest in you lol
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:38 PM
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going when the store is about to close is like the best thing in this scenario you can interact more with her if you are the last person ;
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:36 PM
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demostrate some value ; since she is a cashier she might be friendly to most people I have been in this sitution so you have to be careful and not fumble this by asking for a phone too early ; you will see her more times so use this to your advantage lol ; well thats on top of my head lol ;
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:36 PM
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he is not wrong that you have to smile ; big smile goes a long way (especially a big, genuine one) can have a strong positive impact — like making people feel more comfortable, friendly, or welcomed.
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:34 PM
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its typical marketing text to sell shit online man;
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:33 PM
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hahahaha
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:32 PM
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you lost me at the "how I explain in the book lmao" jezz man ; is there any decent ideas that don't involve people trying to sell you shit hahaha ;
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:32 PM
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you have to open groups man talk to everyone
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:22 PM
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what if short guy but he is proficient with guns ; throwing knives ; and more lethal shit lmao
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:21 PM
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Neil is 5'6 with scrawny build yeap man he is the best example out there ;
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:20 PM
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awesome stuff ;
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:19 PM
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I know the feel man ; but you can either learn this stuff from all the resources there are on the internet or give up entirely and wait to get lucky ; this stuff is usually learnt from older men around us when growing up ; but it is what is lol
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:17 PM
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how many days you do night game in clubs during a week?
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:15 PM
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that's on the books man ; you are clearly doing the field work which is the most important ; some of us are getting experts in our heads rather than the field hahah ; number closing is usually not the way if you want to take them home ;
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:15 PM
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fruit salad classy ! ;
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:14 PM
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humor ; stories where you convery your personality ; palm reading ; astrology ; things about psychology and personality test ; do playful curious - playful curious - playful curios ; read ross jeff ; neil strauss ; mystery method man ; that's all I can say ; study that shit ; that is the way we unnaturals have to learn this stuff I wish it was different but it is what is lol ; also befriend guys who are good with women ; that way you can also learn ; but yeap pretty much that /
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:11 PM
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humor , stories , and talking about really cool stuff that most women are into like personality test and shit ; palm reading ; astrology ; briggs myers ; all of that is crack to women ; do with that as you will lol
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:06 PM
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get off reddit man; go read some books ; read the game ; read the layguide by tony clink ; read mystery method ; don't cherry pick stuff in here ; you are clearly really lost but the good news is you can learn anything ; anything other figured out you can learn as well .
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:04 PM
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those are lame interview questions lmao ; no dude no ; go to the books read books on this shit ; the old ones; a different version of those questions is fine but way later in the interaction when she is showing you interest ;
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:02 PM
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you perform the cube routine lol
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:01 PM
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its a good thing if at least you escalated there up to her face but didnt do it; that creates more tension and if she refuses but you back off and understand thats powerful ; but your whole idea is out of context ; those who dont even try to kiss because are too shy masquerading as patience will be gien the lets just befriends speech.
/r/seduction05/04/25 11:04 PM
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thats a LJBF speech guarantee in most occasions lol ; you always need to go for the kiss the intent behind it is to tell her I see this more than a platonic friendship ; and more into the romantic space
/r/seduction05/04/25 11:02 PM
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nothing give you more confidence than sexual competece; meaning you need success first to get confident lol ; and you only get success with stuff that trully works and throwing yourself into the field
/r/seduction05/04/25 11:00 PM
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the best roadmap is found in rules of the game and you can work from there and if you are clueless and lost these social skills; chatgpt will be your best wingman and your phone too ; do with that as you will
/r/seduction05/04/25 10:58 PM
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right ! because manson was a clueless guy by the time mystery method and such books where already out there !
/r/seduction05/04/25 10:33 PM
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pretty much indeed
/r/seduction05/04/25 10:32 PM
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models is such a shitty book man; its hilarious how young people keep getting attracted to that shit; i dont have anything against manson; but reality is he was another nice clueless guy by the time of the old gurus where master at this dating and seduction stuff.
/r/seduction05/04/25 10:31 PM
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neil strauss talks about this stuff at the end of the game lol ; naturals vs unnaturals ; keep practicing and keep skills sharp and embrace the new person you've become ; always practice and so on.
/r/seduction05/04/25 10:28 PM
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the way I see it pretty cool stuff; so if you develope this skill you will be way ahead then; the odds are in your favor
/r/seduction05/04/25 10:25 PM
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UFFF what an insane comment lol ; here is the trick go on the internet and torrent all the material of those guys; the answer is there; every dating coach out there is a watered down version of the principles these dudes figured out;
/r/seduction05/04/25 10:07 PM
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he should never ever disclose this; I was in his situation, and I was able to fake it until a made it lol, damn OP needs some deep inner game as well lol
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:49 AM
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all you need be well dressed, belong to a tribe like rocker, hip hop, whatever, dress above average, and grooming a great haircut and shaving the back of your neck lol, generic looks aren't that important, Neil strauss discusses this in the beginning of the game lol, he is 5'6 bald big nose jew lmao
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:46 AM
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hould I go prepared with some opener/routine? yes of course I mean you said you read the game lol, that game is a all about the stories and shit, but you must pick up the ideas along the way, read it 10 times more, and take notes and advice, rules of the game is more hands on approach;
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:43 AM
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dude read the rules of the game afterwards, also from neil strauss, I understand your situation and I've been there, many times blew it and chickened out like you say, several times had the chance I was with them in bed and nothing haha, read that game, and work from there, double your dating is also good, Neil strauss teaches also are you in the filed or are you reading books or discussing stuff on reddit and shit, you have to put more effort into applying what you read, good luck and hopefully…
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:42 AM
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he is scum then, just wants to sell you his book and terrible advice, unlike stuff like the game which Neil Strauss genuinely wrote to tell his story and teach guys along the way, the reality is there is so much shit online of dating coaches and gurus, its just annoying, just go to the source lool, to the guy who figure this out decades ago.
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:32 AM
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lmao, never read that shit but I imagined as much, dude read the material of the old gurus, neil strauss, mystery, ross jeffries, hypnotica, david dangelo has good stuff as well, the best shit for inner game also is from hypnotica; do your homework, go on google that stuff is so old, the only way to find nowdays is on torrent websites, do with that as you will.
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:30 AM
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like neil strauss teaches lol, you have nothing to prove to other people nothing to prove to other guys online, the man is a genius!
/r/seduction31/12/24 05:03 PM
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dude that just goes on to show you suffer from shyness and deep insecurity, dont worry you are not alone, you need to work on inner game, and ask out al ot of women to overcome taht, you only get confidence with success.
/r/seduction31/12/24 03:38 AM
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russian torrent websites
/r/seduction31/12/24 03:36 AM
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omg just ask lol, if she declines who cares, neil strauss discusses this on one his telephone coaching sessions, since you will likley see her for a while, flirt with her more, and when its obvious she is into you just ask,
/r/seduction30/12/24 11:13 PM
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this is how you get good at anything lol, find someone who is better than you; a good advice for anything in life; learn from the best;
/r/seduction09/12/24 05:33 AM
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lmao, crazy stuff
/r/seduction09/12/24 05:31 AM
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the first approach is always hard, but if you keep doing it, and you are doing it right, your brain will start releasing dopamine, just like you would with a video game for instance, thats why people get addicted to the game lol
/r/seduction09/12/24 05:27 AM
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As you talk and banter she may say the music sucks but you say noo this is good I love this song; you never change your opinion to get in rapport with her lol, this will create more attraction actually, if she convinces you logically, you can say, respect,
/r/seduction09/12/24 05:25 AM
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Oren klaffs book pitch anything he talks about frame, great stuff,
/r/seduction09/12/24 05:24 AM
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read the books man, go to the books is you are lost, people figured out, dont cheery pick stuff on the internet,
/r/seduction09/12/24 05:22 AM
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bruh, you gotta start writing an archive or something! I love your comments !
/r/seduction09/12/24 05:21 AM
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talk in statements !
/r/seduction09/12/24 05:13 AM
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this is wrong “Oh, by the way you looked absolutely beautiful today.” thats not a good way to be interesting lol, be the exception to the rule, notice something nobody else would notice about her,
/r/seduction09/12/24 05:12 AM
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bachata/salsa classes are pretty damn good! great place too to meet women, but there might be lots of comepetition too, and if you are not a pro, you are already at disadvantage,
/r/seduction09/12/24 05:11 AM
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im pretty sure the book just regurgitates the principles developed by the older gurus lol, I mean just look at manson older dating coaching programs lmao, I pirated that shit a while ago and it was just that, Give credit were its due, he didn't developed none of those principles, people like Neil strauss, hypnotica and so on did.
/r/seduction09/12/24 04:36 AM
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its about personality traits and shit, psychology,
/r/seduction07/12/24 07:03 PM
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well learn some new shit that is interesting to women, read books on this stuff, the old gurus figure it out, learn psychic shit, palm reading, cold reading, that is crack to chicks, learn how to tell stories, learn some humor, learn some jokes, you are a medical student, how are are you stuck in there lol???, go to the books when in doubt,.
/r/seduction07/12/24 07:02 PM
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severe case of one ithis lol, jfc, there are 350 million ppl in the US alone lol, you need to learn so get rid of those limiting believes, tell her how you feel, dont vomit your feelings on her but be more subtle, tell her you'd like to take things further, if she doesn't feel the same, back off, and date other women, by the time you've been with more women you will see the difference, 15 years with this person in the back of your head is a crazy amount of time lol
/r/seduction07/12/24 06:56 PM
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what? be confident ??, just be confident? you get become confident with success and experience, and nothing will build confident like sexual competence, so for most guys is like being a loop lmao.
/r/seduction07/12/24 02:33 AM
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garbage book, manson wasnt pretty at this by the time of neil strauss for instance.
/r/seduction07/12/24 02:32 AM
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is really lame considering the crazy amount of women out there lol, but I guess guys including you prefer this because its safe and could potentially work as training wheels, no and I think this sub is lame, genuinely sad, almost no field reports, and reports that are pretty terrible, not success stories or anything like that, nothing like the things that existed in the past.
/r/seduction07/12/24 02:26 AM
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getting in the habit of carrying a journal and journaling about this experiences is powerful, just like with anything lol
/r/seduction07/12/24 02:23 AM
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did not expect this lol I don't do this often, I'm pretty introverted and agoraphobic, but my job requires me to have pretty strong social skills so I can use that to my advantage. I've asked out complete strangers in this way probably 5 times in the past year (which is NOT a lot!!) - and two of them have resulted in an FWB or more. Get out there and do some approaches! Thanks for reading haha; bottom line is approaching is better than not approaching even if you are just reinventing the wheel l…
/r/seduction07/12/24 02:22 AM
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worse Europeans country if you are English speaker lol, like literally the worse english level in that place
/r/seduction07/12/24 02:20 AM
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"I like you, do you like me? if that was the case lol, but since long time has always been, hey want some dick?; pretty sure it hasn't changed since mao
/r/seduction07/12/24 02:15 AM
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dont hit on these women lol, they are paid to be polite to you, that is just wrong and lame, and unconfortable for them I guess, I mean maybe you can flirt with them, make her, but yeap thats just what the old gurus used to teach, plnety of women out there you can hit on lol
/r/seduction07/12/24 02:13 AM
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no im pretty sure he is not, for me it sounds confident, genuine, spontaneous, like you are in your own reality lol, besides, remember, tonality is 5x times more important than meaning;
/r/seduction07/12/24 01:56 AM
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into "fake time constraint" like hey I have class, let's chat on xyz or insta or app or number yeap exellent advice too!, thats how the game is played !
/r/seduction07/12/24 01:55 AM
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lmao, great opener, spontaneous, sincere, but why you even ask if she has a boyfriends, and the fact that you talked for 20 min was good, could have number closed, -next time, do as follows, -well next time with a great opener like that you could have gone into more interesting topics, demonstrate value, be interesting, cold reading, spirituality, psychology, tell stories, make statements and don't ask boring gerenric questions, - if all goes well you could have said, hey I liked our conversatio…
/r/seduction07/12/24 01:54 AM
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meditation, beginners breath meditation, I might talk out my ass here but it might have the same effect as alcohol, although very little, breathing is powerful man,
/r/seduction07/12/24 01:45 AM
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the old gurus taught this as well, they call it active disinterest, manson is like the prime example of modern dating coaches who regurgitated the concepts created by the old guys as their own, which totally suck lol.
/r/seduction03/11/24 04:48 AM
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you should fail and you should fail fast lol, the path to success is paved with failure
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:43 AM
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meditation man, breath work, exercise, and installing new believes, get in your brain that there is no scarcity of women, that each rejection or failed fling is just a step towards the most wild experiences with women lol, basically study inner game lol
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:28 AM
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this comment so spot on !!!
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:26 AM
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its not a maybe lol, you have to create interest first, before doing a number close, staying there for a while as well after she gives you the number
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:25 AM
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that's why champions are those who can get through the pain period lol, but I know what you mean lol, and not only cold approaching, failing at relations or flings is even shittier on the mental health, instead of going out and starting again, we crumble into old patters on thinking and behavior's thats why inner game is so important too,
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:24 AM
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if your effort to success ratio is so low lol, you are doing something wrong lol cold approaching is nowhere near like: hey I think you are cute, can I have your number lmao, that is a sure way to get rejected 1 out of 20 times, there is method and the old gurus figured it out, I know from experience this shit doesnt work like that, just asking for phone is a dead end lol
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:22 AM
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thats not how I see it lol, I see it as an oportunity, imagine you learn night game or day game cold approaching, the results are insane, because most people are at a disavantage, neil strauss explain this shit in detail lol, most guys are average frustrated chunks, gives you a huge advantage when you learn those skills
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:20 AM
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because most people are average lol, most men, most men settle for whatever life throws at them, that is the best definition of middle class, the men at the top go for what they want in life, there is good decent book called 3% men, lol, learning game has profound implications in all areas of life, learning leadership skills is very smiliar.
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:18 AM
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bro how you finger a girl you meet at a bar, I know this step in the process, in theory never done it myself, but im curious what if she has herpes and that shit is transmitted via skin lol, how you manage that, of course, one would be fetid smells, but what else, im pretty sure this is on the books but im curious.
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:15 AM
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you should study neil strauss or mystery for club game lol honestly if you are clueless its worthless cherry picking stuff on reddit, go to the books or their seminars, its the best shit out there,.. what were you even dancing lol?, what kind of music you dance in the US? genuinely curious.
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:13 AM
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lol right!
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:09 AM
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in environments with lots of women, its easier to have this happen lol, I bet it happens quite often in degrees with lots of women and shit, very less likely where majority are men
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:08 AM
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you don't say shit, you just show interest, get in his personal space, ask him random logical boring questions, if he doesn't notice this, either he is clueless, not interested or anything in between lol, and this is pretty rare to see a woman taking the initiative lol, someone is quite desperate for vitamin D !!
/r/seduction20/10/24 05:06 AM
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through practice I'd say lol, the good thing is that you are conscious about it now, start in low pressure setting and work your way up
/r/seduction07/10/24 02:22 AM
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great insight !
/r/seduction07/10/24 02:20 AM
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well if your effort to success ratio is not improving you are doing something wrong, stop and calibrate, go and learn the fundamentals learn more theory,
/r/seduction07/10/24 02:19 AM
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the only therapy that will work 100% is exposure therapy, the therapist might give you assignments or social challenges but for all the money it cost its not worth it, lol, the rules of the game are figured out, gotta go and read the books and then go out in the field and practice.
/r/seduction07/10/24 02:18 AM
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yeap although I think using chatgpt works lol, just have to calibrate the promtp, for instance I was messing around with opinion openers that were spontaneous, neutral and fun depending on the setting and it gave me pretty good results that I would have never come up with lol, still I havent test in the field but its a godd starting point, yeap also the whole texting sucks and most of us just fall into that trap, I think i have internalized this stuff, the phone is just for logistics, or voice m…
/r/seduction07/10/24 02:10 AM
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but you have been in a relation and all of that, then you are already ahead lol
/r/seduction07/10/24 02:01 AM
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once per week, but its so damn hard that's why the only choice is to date multiple women, do many things, keep busy lol, no other way aroind
/r/seduction07/10/24 01:55 AM
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I get you, however I might have to master the art of just see what happens ignore the girl im interested, demonstrate some value, interesting topics a lot until get more social awareness , still I think events like salsa dancing lessons or places like that are huge to do the whole thing and close the deal with a number lol
/r/seduction07/10/24 01:50 AM
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well the times I asked for numbers a lot where while drunk and just didn't demonstrate value or spark interest lol, just dumb questions and small talk, I wasn't even trying , I just saw an oportunity to be in a social setting went, however I've been studying this stuff so the idea is now without alcohol, true confidence, other girl ghosted me after I send her a message using chatgpt, which came off pretty bad actually , I also no longer text lol, I I now send short voice messages, I hate the who…
/r/seduction07/10/24 01:49 AM
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her looks primarily, then personality but often times men will deal with whatever problems she has just because she is pretty lol, happens a lot from what I've read.
/r/seduction07/10/24 01:38 AM
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hey that's cool, this is my plan I 've been in uni since 2022, almost 4 semesters now , had a fling with 2 girls, nothing sexual but I made some progress , rejected with fake numbers or ghotsting or i have a boyfriend several times but the plan is to read some material and start sarging next semester , I also hit up places around other univ campuses or around public libraries but my unv is the biggest in the city , also my univ got into sort of a strike that lasted like 3months, and combined wit…
/r/seduction06/10/24 09:43 PM
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city within a city indeed, and it the campus is huge as well and with a define boundary is make it even better haha
/r/seduction06/10/24 09:33 PM
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any evidence? dude unless you are approaching the really crazy radical leftist women, of which there are plenty at public universities, I might see it as a problem but if you change venues and avoid those places I dont see an issue lol
/r/seduction06/10/24 09:32 PM
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do you go to UNiversity of Arizona lol, pretty huge campus, mine also has aprox 50k but south america, thinking on doing the same lmao, but this post has some interesting insights
/r/seduction06/10/24 09:31 PM
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what if your uni campus is really big, like massive, and 50k students on average, ? each faculty seems like its own places and most people only mingle around their faculty,
/r/seduction06/10/24 09:28 PM
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this is powerful man At this point, I’m out here talking to 10+ women a night—solos, duos, groups, doesn’t matter. I know my approach is socially calibrated, and I’m within the bounds of normal human interaction. Sometimes, even with the best energy and a flawless approach, I still get rejected. And you know what? That’s not on me. It just means we weren’t compatible, and there’s no need to overthink it. If she’s not into it, fine—next. Honestly, it’s a win for both sides because we just saved o…
/r/seduction06/10/24 09:21 PM
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this is cool stuff!
/r/seduction06/10/24 09:17 PM
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oh no man, my plan is to do mostly day game in my university or around university campus and libraries, my mental health is not at a place where I can deal with the anxiery of dating apps, although I would like to give a try to facebook dating but still using a throaway phones that I only use when using the app and would leave at home at all times lmao, yeap its crazy
/r/seduction06/10/24 09:14 PM
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a pity the clueless guy who reads this and wonders wtf does he mean by clever conversation , hell even I still don't get it, I know I must stay away from logical stuff but still, in practice you often go into small talk again lmao, the importance of field experience
/r/seduction06/10/24 09:11 PM
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start talking to everyone , say yes to every social interaction or reunion you can go and talk to everyone
/r/seduction06/10/24 09:08 PM
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yikes
/r/seduction06/10/24 09:07 PM
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these comments are so... abstract lol, so I picked up like be the leader in the interaction, your frame, bantering, playful, escalation, but so I wouldn't know how to translate that into actual practical knowledge hahaha
/r/seduction05/10/24 08:06 PM
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3-5 dates holy shit this is the plan while at the same time continuing undergrad in software eng lmao, god help me hahaha
/r/seduction05/10/24 08:01 PM
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short?, how come it all depends on your skill lol, changing venues is a must, as much as 5 venues and even ending at your house, all of that depending on the skill and her attraction
/r/seduction05/10/24 08:00 PM
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in a few words pretty much lol
/r/seduction05/10/24 07:57 PM
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in my almost non existent experience but from what I 've read, and learnt, Im going to guess that is many of these things combined -you are not interesting, you dont talk about interesting non technical non logical topics - you dont escalate or do it very late, awkwardly going for the kiss in the end, so yeap lol pretty much that is a deal breaker and girls are savage as hell, they have options and so if they see the interaction going down that path, they just give you the lets just be frineds o…
/r/seduction05/10/24 07:57 PM
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psy yourself up by talking to every body, train your voice by talking on the phone to random people or bsness lol, start off with girls you are not attractive and keep building, incremental steps that shit does wonders for everything in life.
/r/seduction22/09/24 11:34 PM
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about 1/3 of men aged 25-35 worldwide are in deep existential crysis when it comes to this, crazy stuff indeed.
/r/seduction22/09/24 09:03 PM
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so short answer is no lol!, and dont worry about giving a woman an orgarms until your schedule is full of dates ( the ideal scenario) but seriuosly, learn the basics, learn to open a set, or a group of people, learn to create attraction, interest, learn how to go on dates, how to kiss close, when she is at your house in your bed, you know she likes you but and so on, dont worry about that, begin from the start and slowly work up there.
/r/seduction22/09/24 09:01 PM
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wait so you virgin?, but you have a casual sex partner, ?? are you a man or woman?, not enough info lol
/r/seduction22/09/24 08:56 PM
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curious question, did you pay for eveything or you split the bill?, give her some time to miss you, get in contact in a week and ask her again, think about something interesting from what the things you hopefully found out about her, calibrate the interaction, is she showing indicators of interest?, maybe you should escalate more?, maybe more playful many things lol, dont get hung up on a single woman, date more people, this thing about feeling afraid for a third date or that you fucked up or th…
/r/seduction22/09/24 08:30 PM
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but he should wait a week at least to bursh this out
/r/seduction22/09/24 08:26 PM
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what you mean toxic masculinity?;
/r/seduction22/09/24 07:34 PM
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kudos for talking to a stranger on the bus lol, I 've had so much chances but I just freeze up, well here is my two cents in my non existent experience but from what I 've read on books lol, dodge those questions with a cocky funny attitude lol, never respond in a clear way to a question like that, specially since its your fist time meeting, later in the dating you can tell her, but age really doesn't matter that much lol and it's only 3 years, also have the mindset that while the date might hav…
/r/seduction22/09/24 07:13 PM
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yes exactly! much better wording!
/r/seduction22/09/24 07:04 PM
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seems like being cocky funny, the older gurus figured this out a long time ago lol, you are reinventing the wheels, that's why they say, a book can save you up to 5 years, hey this one seems amazing machine freezes up and i joking say its because it knew i was coming hahaha
/r/seduction22/09/24 06:46 PM
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count to 3 and go for it , learn openers
/r/seduction22/09/24 06:41 PM
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you have to create interest lol, I had this happen the other day, I asked for 3 numbers, 1 said no, other girl gave me afake one and the only one that gave me one was a girl with not the best looks, I realized I just didn't create enough interest and I was drunk so yeap, that happens hahaha
/r/seduction22/09/24 06:39 PM
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SA is conservative but I'd argue is the other side of the coin, the animal brutes muslims, terrorist, women beaters are the ones in Iran and places like that.
/r/seduction22/09/24 06:23 PM
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opinion openers, cold readings,... the rules of the game are the same regarless of location lol, you seems like you to learn the basics,
/r/seduction22/09/24 06:21 PM
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| female psychology however is the same regardless of the region right ! exactly !
/r/seduction22/09/24 06:20 PM
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well definitely better than a progressive, non conservative lol, I would argue they respond the same that every women but there has to be way too much competition in a place like that.
/r/seduction22/09/24 06:19 PM
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edit: your name checks hahaha
/r/seduction22/09/24 06:16 PM
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short answer yes but don't make it your main objective, it's better if you are with a swim suit practicing surfing and casually talking to girls rather than being there for just pick up, if you know what I mean, pick up should always be a glofied hobby only.
/r/seduction22/09/24 06:15 PM
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cold apporoach women at university, join clubs and stuff, the language barrier might be tough, specially since both will ahve to communicate in english, just approach women like a machine, demostrate value, stern awyas from boring topics, lmao and yeap a lot of issues right now in europe wtih extremist muslims, immigrants and shit, be aware of that,
/r/seduction22/09/24 06:08 AM
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from the annihilation method from neil strauss, like dvd 6 if im not mistaken
/r/seduction22/09/24 02:08 AM
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but with the only intension of approaching right?, see what happens, others recommend approaching anyone lol, but I guess it depends what stage are you in
/r/seduction22/09/24 12:06 AM
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and going throgh the pain period, no matter is you faint in the gym, that's how you become good at this
/r/seduction22/09/24 12:05 AM
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yeap man we all have screwed with women in the past, there have been times where women were really ready to fu us, but because we didn't see it, or we didn't know it, we messed up, only one way forward and that is what separetes peple like neil who had tremendous success from average men like us, they look at it like a learning lesson, see where it went wrong and fgure out what to do next time, move on and keep sarging !
/r/seduction21/09/24 11:47 PM
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dude I was watching hypnotica on this topic, last night, short answer, yeap it might help, he said to practice in front of a mirror, cool stuff !
/r/seduction21/09/24 09:59 PM
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if you game isn't good enough you might be lucky if at a praticular venue you get an actual date out of bunch of numbers if they even give you numbers or if they give non fake ones, it's a numbers game lol, you have to calibrate don't make it too obvious for women to see you are just asking for numbers,
/r/seduction21/09/24 07:26 PM
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yeap the fact that she took the first move to talk what a huge indicator she was interested ! youi live and you learn !
/r/seduction21/09/24 07:24 PM
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actually gay venues are the best places according to the old gurus, because women will have their guard down, they wont shit test you so much and there wont be a lot of competition, practice what style teaches, replay the moment in your mind, think what you did wrong, what could have done better, how would have done that, practice it a few times, imagine the whole thing and actually move and reharse it, and go out and keep sarging lol !
/r/seduction21/09/24 07:23 PM
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still need calibration, timing, setting, or it might lead to rejection or even fake numbers lol
/r/seduction21/09/24 07:20 PM
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it's the best place imo do that at your age, depending on the size of yours, mine has 50k people, a huge green area, you could try around the campus, I bet there are plenty of bars, night clubs, the idea is to practice, practice until you find what you really want
/r/seduction21/09/24 07:07 PM
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inner game stuff, read all you can about it
/r/seduction21/09/24 04:33 AM
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ross jeffries has some amzing voice recording destroyer messages lol, they would work nowdays
/r/seduction21/09/24 04:32 AM
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interesting great insight, how do you dodge the question of what do you study, in doing software engineering but it has been my experience and other people through ages that telling them that, they already make up a image in their mind of people in this field being weird and all of that, how do you dodge that , I was told to say, I lead a team in tech but if the conversation goes that way how to deal with it. appreaciate your comments im still on college, trying to find someone to spend the next…
/r/seduction21/09/24 03:02 AM
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are you doing this in a college setting ? or near college campus?, you are very young that seems like your demographics
/r/seduction21/09/24 02:57 AM
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if your effort to success ratio ins't improving STOP YOU ARE doing it wrong ! go back to the books, dont cherry pick stuff here, approaching will the sole purpose of asking for a number will either lead to fake numbers or outright the girl telling you NO, ohj shit I was victim of this yesterday lol
/r/seduction21/09/24 02:56 AM
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you are not seducing the date, you are probably not even touching them, it's hard to tell by the context lol, go and read the books,
/r/seduction21/09/24 02:54 AM
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true !, great insight !
/r/seduction19/09/24 01:54 PM
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humour and shrug it off, in fact this is powerful, act as it nothing bothers you, completely emotionless, she is waiting for your reaction, just dont, this skill is powerful no only in that setting but life in general,
/r/seduction19/09/24 01:50 PM
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nice post!
/r/seduction17/09/24 09:09 PM
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what is OLD
/r/seduction17/09/24 09:08 PM
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it's the top game when you can pull that off lol
/r/seduction17/09/24 09:08 PM
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nice story !
/r/seduction17/09/24 02:55 PM
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interesting post, I think active listening is also a good thing to have
/r/seduction17/09/24 02:42 PM
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when that happens you can tell the women, hey whatever you are doing with these guys, it wont work on me hahaha!
/r/seduction17/09/24 07:26 AM
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the pros go for the kiss during the first 20 min of the interaction lol, crazy isnt it,
/r/seduction17/09/24 07:23 AM
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ignoring women is powerful, it gives you back the control of the interaction, sadly, that's why you need a rotation lol
/r/seduction17/09/24 07:21 AM
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as a matter of fact you kiss the date around the middle, kissing her at the end sucks, for you and for her, lmao, you can make out passionately in the end but only if you went for it before, some women will actually move their face away and tell you NO, you get it, you stop, but internally, they like when you do that, same can happens with sex, only text her once per week to set up the next date of that week, keep that frame and remember to escalate things if she gives you another chance, some w…
/r/seduction17/09/24 07:20 AM
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not sure if im right but she likes to cook live animals and she though you were into animals rights?, this right here seems like a small shit test, dont ever change your opinion with a girl to please her even on small things such as this lmao, its crazy how women test you even in insignificant stuff, and get off the phone, tell her, when are you avaliable to meet, best thing is to learn game lol, no other way around, being prepare so we dont let these type of opportunities pass by.
/r/seduction17/09/24 02:46 AM
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dont text to much, try to escalate by touch, calibrate, body language, touch her jewerly, clap hands, touch her shoulder, learn palmistry, read the signals, go to go for the kiss at about the middle of the date, now that I think about it, when most women eagerly accept to go on a date with a guy, they expect this to happen, they want to get seduced and all of that, they are very likely open for that to happen, dont cherry pick stuff here, go on to youtube or read books, the mystery kiss method i…
/r/seduction17/09/24 02:41 AM
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they way I see it seems like a ton of indicators of interest lol, you matched her preference when it comes to looks perhaps, or maybe the smell, women can sense that, just go with flow, it's a learning opportunity lol !
/r/seduction17/09/24 01:36 AM
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well the first step is too believe it, reprogram your mind, read a lot of material, the key here is fake till you make it, read books, watch movies, internalize that stuff so that you act and behave, never talk about that with women either, don't ask them about pass relations, or lovers, if a future date asks you about it just tell her, you've moved on and such,
/r/seduction17/09/24 01:29 AM
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5'3 in the US?, damn would not what to say man, although 1200 approaches that's impressive to say the least
/r/seduction16/09/24 11:29 PM
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what
/r/seduction16/09/24 07:31 PM
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meet me at xx, time, i want you to meet me at xx I want you to wear xx clothing, and so on and so lol
/r/seduction16/09/24 07:29 PM
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the short answer is "always tell her NO", simple as that, always keep a frame of win/win situations, dominant is also the same as leading, be the leader in the relation.
/r/seduction16/09/24 07:27 PM
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you should never disclosed that with women you are just dating lol, and even such personal things you should keep only to should serlf, , neither your salary, your occupation, fake till you make it, you flip those questions with humor and story telling, well you live and you learn lol, go to the books man, you need a map.
/r/seduction16/09/24 06:05 PM
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I dont understand your post lol, if she alllowed you to do that she has high interest, also first time seeing each other, I dont understand how you got the number after groping her lmao
/r/seduction16/09/24 05:55 PM
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the golden rule when picking up in yoga or workout is to be there early and start up a conversation with then at the beginning when they are not sweaty and tired lol, do with that as you will
/r/seduction16/09/24 05:46 PM
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man im 30 and not a lot of experience, but I've let pass way to many chances where women where ready to down with me but I just didnt see it lol
/r/seduction16/09/24 05:45 PM
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pretty much
/r/seduction16/09/24 05:41 PM
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i don't understand how guys get to have sex but still don't understand the basics lol, You are the one who has to be this cold, seems like you are getting attached, the reality is you let her come to you, when she text you, you set up the next meeting, and leave it at, you actually only set up a date once per week, and that can go on for as much as 8 weeks, this is why you get a rotation, and why you also need to seriously find out what you are passionate about,
/r/seduction16/09/24 05:41 PM
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you don't text obsessively over text
/r/seduction16/09/24 03:35 PM
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crazy stuff
/r/seduction16/09/24 03:34 PM
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unless you 've been there there is no way to tell lol,, sure the constant stream of oxytocin would be nice and all but there is much to it, like the guy talking about the maslow hierarchy of needs,
/r/seduction16/09/24 03:33 PM
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aren't we all, aren;t we all,
/r/seduction16/09/24 03:32 PM
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holy shit, but look at it from the bright side, dont you get up in the morning feeling like you have that part with women figured out?, you can now focus on your purpose, indeed looks like you are peak seduction lol, the lady spending money on the hotel for you both is awesome !
/r/seduction16/09/24 03:31 PM
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if there are drinks, make a toast with random women and if there are guys do it when then too lol, never tried that but it seems to work to gain social proof, and just find the pretties woman and talk to her
/r/seduction15/09/24 09:13 PM
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oh yes!, but the way he delivered that line made all the difference ! thanks for this !
/r/seduction15/09/24 09:10 PM
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someone named Paul Alexander Dobransky goes into detail about that, Im sure you can find more about that from more "conservative psychologist", but he is a good reference, and the interesting part is that he worked on that issue regarding women and dating.
/r/seduction15/09/24 09:01 PM
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oh this is awesome ! thanks for the tip !
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:49 PM
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the thing about dating someone at job is that you might see each other all the time, women need to wonder about you, to growth the attraction, you said you talked for a while, that is usually a big indicator of interest, go for it, invite her for coffee, U should have told her that day right there and there, !Hey we should really continue this conversation, what steps can we take to make that possible, ! wait to see if she offers to give you her number, this is powerful, you are in control and y…
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:48 PM
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from david d right?
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:42 PM
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oh great mateiral, saving this comment !
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:41 PM
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great examples lol !, this is why marriages don't last, and women are usually the ones that jump the rope like a monkey.
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:40 PM
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I was casually learning about this from Ross Jeffries, dominance is important but beware that it becomes domineering, the last is usually negative. dominance is similar to leadership traits, the thing that gives you women, positions of power, money, business opportunities so on and so on!
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:38 PM
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work on inner game dude, there are many things you can improve but without context it's hard to tell, my recomendation like I usually do, go to the books, study the old coaches, the only thing you are going to get through that feeling of rejection is to approach women like a machine, like it's a video game, only through that will you eventually overcome that, start slow, approach 1 women each day, then 2, then 3, you only get confidence with success, refine the approach learn how to open a set, …
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:36 PM
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self esteem doesnt' exist lol I wont go into why is the case, but plenty of research out there from great psychologist
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:33 PM
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cool stuff, not much detail of the game you used but cheers for you!, she probably was into you from the start, the type of tribe or type of style in a guy, cheers! we need more success stories like this one the sub !
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:30 PM
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!Hey, I realized if I don't talk to you I might never see you again, my is XX, ! ! Hey you have great style, you look like someone I should meet, my name is xx! give her a handshake, always smile, always give her a time constrain, always keep the body as if you are about to leave, tada tada, that is just the first step, now work on maintaining that convo for 10 min lol, number close at around the mid, and the 2 min after than and then gtfo.
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:27 PM
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oh man ross jeffries have one line for this particular setting, it's insane sadly I don't remember it, but it's pretty cool,
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:25 PM
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im pretty sure the guys who started everything on one side where mystery and that pick up community, RDS, then neil strauss joined and basically became the best, david d angelo and ross jeffries started out at the same time as well, both have different approaches, there might have been other guys who were good but never taught any of this, there is the interview series of david d angelo, insane stuff, not sure what system you are referring too, but things like those neil strauss teaches where fi…
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:22 PM
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yes of course, its pretty obvious isn't dont take it personally, there is no such thing as bitches, it's always your fault, you didn't make her confortable, you didnt demostrate enough interest, not enough skill, move on , learn from the interaction, and know that no situation is impossible.
/r/seduction15/09/24 08:18 PM
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you need to learn how to open a set, you have to say, so how you guys meet each other, the guys could have been the boyfriends lol
/r/seduction15/09/24 06:28 PM
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well yeap figure out first if the guy was the boyfriend, also never do something for the sole purpose of pick up women lol, this is terrible idea, your mindset will significantly affect your behavior' and all, and the best way to deal with a cock-blocker is to ask him all the things you never ask a woman, the obvious boring interview questions lol
/r/seduction15/09/24 06:26 PM
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doesnt matter the age lol, don't tell her, if she ask, you can say, how much you weight hahaha, it really doesnt matter specially in college settings, im 30's and I've had flings with 23-24-26 year olds in college.
/r/seduction15/09/24 06:22 PM
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oh indeed, great stuff here too!
/r/seduction15/09/24 06:20 PM
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oh it did exist, early 2000's lol, there are even dating gurus from back the day who focused on this stuff, can't recall their names but amazing stuff too, what didn't exist was the massive paywalls, algorithms and stuff, but they figured out back then, the idea of taking her out on a date asap, the idea of spending mostly Sundays on that shit for better results, the idea of interesting spics, it definitely was a thing back in those days. Culture and tech have changed significantly but I still t…
/r/seduction15/09/24 06:18 PM
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depending on your level and approach, neil strauss, david d angelo, mystery, all great coaches!
/r/seduction15/09/24 06:12 PM
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torrent the material of ross jeffries, neil strauss and david d angelo, work on inner game stuff, bit size your knowledge, start by learning how to open a group of girls or one girl, then how to carry the conversation, then how to ask for the phone, etc etc, all the way to the date, the kiss, and ultimately having wild steamy sex lol, seriously just go to the book and material, don't cherry pick stuff here lol
/r/seduction15/09/24 07:33 AM
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you are just playing, you are player, would it work if you tell her, if I'm not in a serious relation I can date as much women as I want lol, I remember that one from david d angelo, if the girl ask you if you are player, seems similar, remember it doesn't matter the meaning, it's all about tonality and body language!
/r/seduction15/09/24 05:11 AM
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indicators of interest, when she asks you things, when she asks you name, when she is touchy, when she smiles at you, etc etc etc
/r/seduction15/09/24 03:12 AM
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Todd V just regurgitates the concepts and principles of the older gurus, such is the case with most youtube gurus, the guys from 2000's figured this shit out, there is nothing else to add, women respond to the same principles no matter the time, or country, or culture, it's a fact that things are different nowdays with social median and stuff but the core principles still apply, specially the inner game stuff, no putting any woman on a pedestal, not having a scarcity mentality so and so on
/r/seduction15/09/24 02:42 AM
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this is spot on !, you get to touch women and the anxiety slowly start to face away !
/r/seduction14/09/24 06:31 PM
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these types of marriages lol, like you say truly dysfunctional stuff, yikes
/r/seduction14/09/24 06:12 PM
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I get block in real life, even after going on several dates, it tends to happen lol, women are chaotic,
/r/seduction14/09/24 06:09 PM
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the amazon girl !!!
/r/seduction14/09/24 06:06 PM
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im willing to bet attractiveness from us guys perspective comes from the shape and symmetry of the face, the style of hair and that bedroom eyes look lol
/r/seduction14/09/24 06:06 PM
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nothing beat as man having the ability to walk up to any woman, create attraction and potentially take her home and close the deal, in fact this stuff has profund impact in other aras of life for a man, his business, his career, everything ! whoa and the last part is so true, many guys think having financial freedom will automatically make them succesful with women, or having a phd or whatever, it's such a wrong and terrible limiting belief.
/r/seduction14/09/24 06:55 AM
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is she is super shy and weird with no female friends and that kind of stuff she might accept, start by suggesting that each other send vioice messages, and then after a month ask her to meet face to face, I honestly was in this situation twice years ago, we endeup meeting but now that I think about it, it was a damn waste of time, meet face to face asap, and refine your skills, approach women IRL like it's a video game lol!
/r/seduction14/09/24 06:33 AM
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I read about this technique when it comes to waitress and stuff lol, when they give you the tiny paper with the order, you tell her, there is a problem here with my order, she might look confused and you tell her, yeap look here ! your number isn't on it lol, it catches then off guard, dude as for the text, something short can work, remind her you are xx guy from the other, day and ask her her to go for drinks some place near your house preferably for logistics of course, if she showed IOI's the…
/r/seduction14/09/24 06:11 AM
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well thats awesome, you need to keep practicing lol, you need a good map, read double your dating or the game from neil strauss, the mystery method is pretty good too, those are the best maps for pick up and dating ! go out and sarge, approach women like a machine, refine your openers, practice keeping a convo for 10 min, do the number close at aorund the 5 min mark and after that just ask for another number, my two cents lol !
/r/seduction14/09/24 02:37 AM
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you are asian for 2 years in the states?, how is your english?, maybe that is a reason, keep practicing, but also polish your english, do things for you but every chance you get talk with girls, join clubs to practice, a reding club or something like that.
/r/seduction14/09/24 02:26 AM
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insecurity, limiting believes, lack of practice lol, this is why you approach any woman, and start a convo no matter her looks, then you realized whether she is cute or not and you can continue the interaction from there, this is key so that when the one that you really feel attracted the one that matches your Wishlist you are prepared, keep this in mind ! this is how you get confidence, with success and practice
/r/seduction14/09/24 02:23 AM
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yeap lol this is crazy, op needs to work on his inner game like a ton
/r/seduction14/09/24 02:16 AM
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you should have said, oh no way, we have been talking for like xx amount of time and you are talking about your problems, ... hahaha, thing is you have to be very witty and all that to pull that off before she becomes uncomfortable and doing that shit in a left wing university setting would be pretty dangerous lol, specially in humanities where are the most crazy ones,
/r/seduction14/09/24 02:15 AM
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well you never invite a woman on the first date to have dinner lol, unless you are natural who can close the deal right then and there nobody should do it
/r/seduction14/09/24 12:08 AM
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anthony lifestyle on youtube might be an option for this type of infield videos, unfortunately the older coaches never did infield stuff but you can find plenty of great material on the subject from them in form of seminars and books.
/r/seduction14/09/24 12:03 AM
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this is so on point lol, the women with long straight shiny hair usually have great face and body, rares cases you find the opposite
/r/seduction14/09/24 12:01 AM
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succcess breeds confidence ! , yeap its important to have a list of qualities you find attractive in a woman, for me personally petite, long straight hair latinas is my thing, I live in south american tho, neil strauss teaches to strike up a conversation with any woman to hone the skills then you will find whether they are attractive or not
/r/seduction13/09/24 11:59 PM
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money and looks are pretty secundary, if you have top game, you can just buy her drinks nothing else lol, if you seduce her right she might even be willing to spent money too lol
/r/seduction13/09/24 11:27 PM
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I would argue women with problems gravitate towards nice guys lol, old women, ugly women, women with severe trauma, I've seen it lol, and even then the nice guy stereotype is so bad that eventually these women will also leave you lol, changing from a nice guy will not only help with women but a shit ton of other dimensions in life, the most fundamental thing and perhaps foundation is always saying NO, always tell her NO to the woman, thats the best thing to say to women and the first step in des…
/r/seduction13/09/24 11:25 PM
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be confident is pretty dumb and terrible advice, you only get confident with success, the more success with yhave in relations the more confident you become, that's not something you get out of thin hair lol, people need to stop giving that advice, it's plain terrible, what op needs is a map, a map for success and there is plenty of that out there books and authors,
/r/seduction13/09/24 11:22 PM
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you are starting out wrong lol, I've been there it can lead somewhere but just ask her out on a date face to face asap, stop the shyness and cuckness, drink a bit if you need to calm your nerves but do it face to face, stop the chatting and make her wonder about you, this my friend could be a recipe for disaster, emotional disaster and lame attachment, just asked for advice, there you have it, read the game from neil strauss, in the meantime lol
/r/seduction13/09/24 11:20 PM
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if she gets scared and shit, just put on your clothing and relax and the sofa and you guys can play table games or something, chances are after that she makes up her mind and it down to it, but be also open to she leaving right then are there lol, women are caotic,
/r/seduction13/09/24 11:15 PM
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and you guys can buy a bottle of wine, just make sure is one bottle so you both don't end up wasted and shit, a nice dinner could also lead up to that, the movie thing is just lame and generic, there are thousand things you can do to impress her, but you both are young so it doenst really matter lol
/r/seduction13/09/24 11:13 PM
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well assuming you are both in your house, start by seducing her, talking about meaningful topics, start loweing your voice and stuff and then make out passionately, then lead her to bed, still with clothing on, give her a massage in her hands, knuckles, then her back, then breath into her neck for 10 min, until her little hair stands up, not sure if that how is written lol, then just caress her tits and make sex poses still with clothing, ask her, can I go touch down here, touch her legs and app…
/r/seduction13/09/24 11:12 PM
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casual hookups and sex talk is normal among other majors but not in engineering with a bunch of weird dudes who are clueless as well, goddamn specially in computer science and computer engineering, it seems spending a lot of time in front a pc makes you even more socially inept than the other majors.
/r/seduction13/09/24 10:48 PM
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date multiple women until you find what you really want lol, the 10/10 at the end of the day they say, it's the same smelling taco,
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:30 PM
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I beleive neil strauss defined the whole courtship, dating thing as a game, with a set of rules and stuff, if you know the game, you can engage and if you know the rules you can come out really successful which at the end of day, is dating women having sex and just enjoying life lol, the chemicals you release during that are pretty beneficial for you, oxytocin is the happy chemical.
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:23 PM
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or if you are in engeneering with terrible social skills lmao, this is insane, compared to other majors, people openly talk about this stuff and all
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:21 PM
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whats your major, how you become moderately rich ?
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:24 PM
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parking and then meeting her in the opposite direction idk man that sounds creepy as hell, just roll down the windows, and ask her name and number lol, simple as that, "hey you look like some I should meet, do you have a number, or put your number and you handle her a notepad and nice stylish pen ! "
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:21 PM
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I know for a fact that coaches do it, in a seminar of david d angelo they discussed that, as simple as, "hey what's your name" , " what is your number !", sounds more assertive, or less assertive " do you have a number" ; just like that lol, considering you are on a car no time to play around be as direct as possible in this case.
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:19 PM
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go to the older dating coaches, buy the programs from DAvid d angelo or Ross Jeffries it's much cheaper, study the material and then go out and practice, maybe find a buddy who is on the same path, honestly I think most dating coaches on youtube and online just regurgitate the principles developed by these guys in the past, oh some of then just reinvented the wheel again to end up at the same ideas and logic about women lol, but still definitely think most of then are either naturals developing …
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:00 PM
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I believe he names his seminar like speed seduction 1, 2, 3, 4,5 on youtube you can find the 3, it last 9 hours, pretty cool content, but on the 5 he actually does live demostrations with a few women and gives even more material, it's insane, he starts with inner game, how to approach, how to keep her interested, what to say during the date, the number close, what to do during the date and all that, the one for iiner games, is called nail your inner game, I got some of that stuff from rutracker,…
/r/seduction13/09/24 05:54 PM
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Ross Jeffries teaches this specifically but he goes beyond and advices you to do the things you would do in front of the girl, imagine she is there, do the same body language gestures, use your voice, and even go so far as imagining you are the girl and you are speaking to her and she is feeling attraction and all that,
/r/seduction13/09/24 05:50 PM
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damn, crazy stats, but just like everything in life, there are maps out there, people and books !
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:48 AM
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Ross if the god father of seduction !, I have like 3 of his seminars and the ideas just blew my mind, even some parts with live demonstrations with women, it's insane, I just need to get my head straight, study the stuff and go out and practice
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:47 AM
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interesting !, never heard of that, 45 min for rewiring , that sounds incredible!
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:43 AM
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the best material for this stuff is Ross Jeffries, there might be material on youtube, very old, it's about changing your believes!
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:36 AM
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Honestly, going into things now I simply couldn't give a fuck? Like the concept of her being on a pedestal is far removed, the fact that there's literally millions of other woman in this world really does remove the importance of "this one". this is so powerful, its insane, having this realization!, but also have to make it true, lol, unless you actually get a practice squad, a nice rotation, you won't believe, it ! approach like a machine and set up plenty of dates, no other way around !
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:35 AM
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ketamine is like LSD?, damn interesting, I heard the trip is way longer compared to mushrooms, interesting stuff, im planniing on doing mushrooms again in the mountains, and then go back into the game lol, and why go back to old flings, plenty of women out there lol, I've burn all the bridges hahaha, will have to start from zero, Im still in college luckly
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:33 AM
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so approach anxiety is just approaching like a machine then
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:30 AM
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one technique I've read on the books often is imagining a string on your chest, so you put shoulders back, standing straight.
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:29 AM
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they will get into your personal space or very close, their body language wont be close, no short answers or looking aways, when they make eye contact that pretty much covers any more ideas?
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:27 AM
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cool stuff,
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:22 AM
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pick up can be and should only be a glorified hobby, still I agree, you should have an interesting life and a purpose, but on the side if you don't polish your social skills and game, then you are not going to be very successful with women, above average at best.
/r/seduction13/09/24 06:21 AM
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55-38-7 rule, the meaning doesn't really matter, it all comes down to the other factors,
/r/seduction12/09/24 11:51 PM
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new realization lol !
/r/seduction12/09/24 11:31 PM
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great to hear man ! awesome stuff !, she is definitely into you !
/r/seduction12/09/24 11:30 PM
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great stuff !,
/r/seduction12/09/24 11:28 PM
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well if you want to annihilate the competition, you should have sightly higher level of enthusiasm and energy, and always smile on the approach always, that is pretty hard one, I might start watching stand up comedy and recall some jokes while I approach hahah
/r/seduction12/09/24 05:08 PM
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holy shit this is cool, I 've seen another video but at the gym, women do actually do this !!, had this happen with a girl this semester in one class it was very obvious, and yeap I let it pass, and she dropped the course, lmao
/r/seduction12/09/24 05:05 PM
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there is also the place where people go to the bathroom, people moving back and forth, you can also strike up a conversation right there, hahaha
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:56 PM
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lol im not the most skilled guy but I'd recommend go to the books, this is all well laid out in there, what to do when she is at home, how to carry the interaction and the escalation, you know she likes you, otherwise she would have just ghosted you, you need to seduce her, be playful then talk about meaning full stuff, playful then meaningful stuff back and forth, but yeap go to the books man, the fact that you didn't kiss her during the first date, means you need to polish your skills, and I d…
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:55 PM
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the fuck?, ai platform? is he even still in the business lol, he has a website with a shit ton of cool stuff still and the material on the web from him is insane, but never heard of this, anyway, you can defintely use chatgpt with the right prompts to get some pretty cool ideas specially for texting, I used it for my last fling and it gave me pretty good results
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:50 PM
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glad to help !,
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:45 PM
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read the material of neil strauss, david d angelo and ross jeffries, go from there lol, do your homework, these guys are the best coaches and there are tons of material out there from them,
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:38 AM
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how would you know such things, learn to read people, become a very socially aware, more so thatn the avearge person, like a good comedian, it's a skill
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:36 AM
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what??, ask for a smoke then ask for a kiss or what are you sayiing ...?
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:34 AM
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dude this has been figured out in the books, go to the books !, don't cherry pick stuff here, read about mystery's kiss test for instance, well you are doing good, it took neil strauss nearly 6 months to break the kiss barrier, he says he would go out with beautiful women but was stuck in that part but he managed to do it
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:33 AM
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damn, my college campus has 50k people, it's huge with lots of green areas, tell us more about your apporach lol, I'm 30, almost 31 now in nov, very little success but im not even trying that much like you . in 3rd year software engineering, I 've had flings with girls around 23-24, that seems to be the average age, and outliers, could be 19 to 30 lol but yeap, age doesn't really matter, it's all about your vibe and your style of course, and approaching women like a machine, like it's a video ga…
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:04 AM
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verbal is the majority of game lol, your vibe, and you communicate all that across, read the dating gurus of the 2000's would be my advice
/r/seduction12/09/24 03:23 AM
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this is so bullshit, especially since she is half american and probably been living the US for a while, I bet OP just didn't have the skills although she is still has attractions for him, another woman would have just ghosted him after 3rd data and no being seduced,
/r/seduction12/09/24 03:22 AM
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with the right skills you can go for the kiss midway during first date lol, all this about she being chinese makes no sense, women are wired the same no matter the country, and she is Chinese American, and mean and watching a movie is just lame, seduce her, make her laugh, polish your skills, get better at the game would be my advice lol, and you said you guys were at your house, with the right skills again you could've had an insane experience lol, at this point do not chase her, set up a date …
/r/seduction12/09/24 03:20 AM
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preparation, neil strauss teaches make a cheat sheet, and study the questions and when you get to the date, put it in your backpocket, you will do just fine !
/r/seduction12/09/24 02:52 AM
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no freaking way, this is awesome ! im studying the DVDs he created teaching 5 guys techiniques and stuff, the guy mentions, its all progressive, threesomes are the highest level of skill in the game lol, can't freaking wait hahaha
/r/seduction12/09/24 02:40 AM
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my experience in real life is the complete opposite. I still approach women but have doing it less since being back on the apps. I’ve approached over 100 people in the past month and had zero success either having sex or following up for a date. I live in a mid sized southern city and feel pretty discouraged to start approaching IRL. yeap you clearly don't have the skills for it lol, bit size your knowledge, learn how to open, create a good topic of conversation, create interest and value, the n…
/r/seduction12/09/24 02:34 AM
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bruh read the game from neil strauss, back in the day early 2000's online dating wasn't that big of a deal, so approaching IRL was the way to go.
/r/seduction12/09/24 02:32 AM
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so this is what they do in the states ! foxtrot, two step, tango, waltz, jitterbug, east coast swing, west coast swing, country swing, chacha cool stuff !, goes on to show the difference, here is south America is just salsa and bachata for the most part,
/r/seduction12/09/24 02:30 AM
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oh I see not aware of that jargon lol , I though it was something I saw on clip from mystery, pulling the girl hair, you tell her " let me show you something, you can thank your predecessors for this" and you pull her hair downwards, it's tricky but something to add to the repertoire,
/r/seduction12/09/24 02:28 AM
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so really great tips ! thanks for this !
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:39 AM
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what you mean the pull? the hair pulling thingy?
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:36 AM
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sex on first date is pretty high level stuff lol, op is still having issues escalating, but that's the goal isn't it>??
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:35 AM
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Most guys fuck up by not touching the girl at all throughout the date and then try to kiss the girl at the end. It can work but it's going from 0-100 and girls will be caught off guard. oh man I've been there so many times hahaha !
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:34 AM
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When I first started dating when I was younger I wasn't escalating either and I felt like a pussy. Eventually you'll either keep repeating the same mistakes or you'll grow some balls and change something. One time I had a girl in my bed ready to fuck and I didn't make any moves. I felt so bad after that I never made that mistake again. Remember the girl is there because she is at least interested in you. You are not only letting yourself down but you are also letting her down. Don't be a pussy. …
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:33 AM
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you only get confidence with success, this is facts, people who say just be confident have no clue what they are talking about lol !
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:29 AM
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these are great !,
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:25 AM
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right !, that's one way to reprogram new positive believes ! practicing beginners breath meditation would also help !
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:22 AM
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work on your inner game, I'd recommend ross Jeffries inner game on this stuff, you need to work on your believes, reprogram you mind,
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:21 AM
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field reports this is the kind of stuff we need more of on this sub !
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:19 AM
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cool stuff haha
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:16 AM
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go to her and greet by saying hi and how's it going. Then I say "Can I ask you a question?" If she says yes, I ask "Are you single?" If she says no, I say ok and leave. If she says yes, I say "I noticed you there and w whoa this is terrible, dude go back to the books, read people like neil strauss, david d angelo, and even Ross jeffries, dont cherry pick stuff in here, do it like this Hey, I realized if I don't talk to you , I might never see you again, my name is XX Hey, you look like someone..…
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:13 AM
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maybe is no in women, I'd ask her to say yes or no, and she says maybe, tell her, we talk later and try once more after a whole week or 7 days
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:08 AM
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so women just want casual sex are you saying ?
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:06 AM
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the hair pull ! , yeap cool stuff,
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:05 AM
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right !, it should be playful - asking her questions, playful and games - asking her questions - humor and story telling, fractionation, its freaking complex lol but the maps are out there !
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:04 AM
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we as men learning game we have to way more socially aware than everyone else lol, like they are saying, cut your loses and move on to the next !
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:02 AM
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yeap its important lol, I had dates in the past where I dont touch, there are manysubtle ways to break that, it all depends on situation, here are a few to reharse my learning, touch her jewerly, walk with crossed arms the street, tell her, did you know how people walked 200 years ago?, high fives, touch in the shoulder, touching if she is laughing is powerful, and the actual cool stuff I've read but haven't tested yet, get a deck of palm reading cards, show it to her for a while and then tell h…
/r/seduction11/09/24 06:01 AM
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you are describing masculine traits, telling her no, the counter intuitive, cool stuff
/r/seduction11/09/24 05:50 AM
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learning game will help you practice get experience to find the right one. good post anyway,
/r/seduction11/09/24 05:49 AM
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yeap cool stuff,
/r/seduction11/09/24 05:43 AM
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women love dancing lol and its actually the best way to break the touch barrier, what kind of dance you do in your country?, here is in south America is salsa,
/r/seduction11/09/24 05:39 AM
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cold approach at night clubs is the absolute best approach to practice and get numbers fast, pretty women are seldom alone so you would need to open the whole group lol
/r/seduction11/09/24 05:38 AM
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use 1 opening and use it 10-20 times, being direct I think ist the best approach, tell her Hey/Hi , I realized if I don't talk to you I might never see you again, my name is X and so on, go from there, the key also si to staty away from logical topics of conversation, and get into emotional ones, its compelx so thats why I recommend going to the books.
/r/seduction10/09/24 11:56 PM
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read the game from neil strauss man, and go from there, the material from david d angelo is priceless too, these guys figured this out a long time ago, and holy shit it's the best material out there and it's mostly in english, lucky you guys who are natives, im learning this stuff but that is not my main language lmao,
/r/seduction10/09/24 11:54 PM
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I dont know which kind of high value definition you have in mind, but it's way too complex and im willing to bet you are thinking in just one or two dimensions, like money or status, and is far from reality lol, it involves many things, being interesting, having ambition, good conversations, can tell stories, while I agree the competition is fierce, true value is a whole lot of stuff, neil strauss teaches this stuff in detail in the DVD series he made a long time ago.
/r/seduction10/09/24 11:52 PM
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its never too late to make a change lol, im also in CS, and the stigma of stem fields you can tell, but it is what is, always has been like this lol, fortunely we are smart guys we can keep looking for answers and read book on the topic, I just got a bunch of material this year and planning on start Appling once and for all.
/r/seduction10/09/24 11:49 PM
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there is no other way,
/r/seduction10/09/24 11:47 PM
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south America actually lmao,
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:42 AM
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download books and seminars and learn that shit for a full month then go out and practice,
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:34 AM
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you live in a third world european country, torrent all the content you can from rutracker or whatever, there are terabytes of old bootcamps and seminars teaching this stuff and then go out and practice in night clubs or college campus, hahaha, that's what I would do lol, I just downloaded a bunch of stuff early this year but havent been serious about it, but that's the plan, learn the material and go practice.
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:28 AM
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interestging
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:25 AM
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just learn to open sets first lol, create interesting topics of conversation and open sets non stop, creating value and then go from there,
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:25 AM
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it's the absolute best setting for practice, but also the hardest to find a woman of value, I'd say perhaps night clubs in college settings are better in this regard but yeap nightc clubs were the absolute best settings were the first pick up artist would hone their skills lol
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:23 AM
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instead of cherry picking stuff here, you should follow a well laid out plan lol, hey but I m genuinely curious, what kind of dancing you did?, DJ? like a rave or something?,
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:18 AM
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right !, that's why in pick up you must have super human social awareness lol
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:16 AM
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I bought a deck of palm reading cars, I would show her and then tell her I can read her hand, well in theory that's the plan lol, I haven't done it yet lmao, there also all sorts of situational touches you can use, but in a setting of drinking coffee, i can't think of a better one thatn the deck of cards lmao, you can also touch her jewelry and stuff
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:14 AM
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damn, that's insane lol
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:09 AM
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so that's the volume everyone is talking about lol, that sounds insane
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:07 AM
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damn I want to live this college experience lol, a long time in college and never had this action, of course covid happened and stuff and also many opportunities that I didn't take or didn't have the skills lmao
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:06 AM
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by having a rotation, multiple options, and improving your game.
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:05 AM
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until sex happens lol
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:04 AM
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flacking generally means you are not offering enough value,
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:03 AM
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5'5 height lol?, Neil strauss is 5'6
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:02 AM
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cool stuff, anyone can learn to be like this,
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:01 AM
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holy shit, I envision the time when I get to this level lmao, the crazy stuff is, do you pull this off in those places?, this stuff seems more like night club game more than anything, even perhaps college campuses but damn, cool stuff
/r/seduction07/09/24 08:59 AM
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humour and story telling, women seem to associate humor with intelligence which so retarded and dumb lmao, IQ is more complex than that, however, there are also humorless rockstarts who can bed women, voice and tonality play an important role too, language seems to be the key here lol
/r/seduction07/09/24 08:57 AM
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believes determine our reality
/r/seduction07/09/24 08:53 AM
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how much volume, like 1 in 100?, 1 in 50, what is rejection heaps?, do you get number rejected or before the first date?
/r/seduction07/09/24 08:53 AM
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damn, like how much, and what setting do you practice?, college campuses perhaps?, Im still in college, so the chances are way higher, but they are also too young, and my limiting believes with limited success kick in lol
/r/seduction07/09/24 08:52 AM
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my guess is that she is playing you, but its weird also the fact that she is down to do all that stuff, really weird lol, people can have all sorts of weird things in their head lmao
/r/seduction07/09/24 08:49 AM
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right !!
/r/seduction07/09/24 08:46 AM
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that is the most basic, common stuff to do, but there are some really good openers out there, developed by the guys who figured this out long time ago.
/r/seduction07/09/24 08:45 AM
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this is why meditation is so important, it puts you in the present, or the reason why most guys get tipsy when interacting with women.
/r/seduction07/09/24 08:44 AM
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cool stuff
/r/seduction07/09/24 08:43 AM
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and most guys wouldn't know what to say after I wanted to talk to you lol
/r/seduction07/09/24 08:42 AM
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the best openers are from Ross Jeffries, and neil strauss also teaches, rehearse the opener several times write it on cheat sheet and so on, practice makes perfect, one that I listened to him but haven't used yet goes like this: Hi , I just realized if I don't say hi I might never see you again, nice to meet you, my name is X, being direct is the best shit state your intentions, the only reason you are talking to her is because you want to put her legs behind her ears, so act like it, anyway tha…
/r/seduction07/09/24 08:41 AM
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experience on the field is important no matter the setting, night game is where you ll find the most to practice lol
/r/seduction26/08/24 04:15 PM
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neil strauss teaches you have to show active disinterest in your target, this is proof that shit still holds lol crazy stuff, nice story!
/r/seduction23/08/24 09:06 PM
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neil strauss and others figure this out a long ago, it still holds !
/r/seduction23/08/24 09:04 PM
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show host are really good with people lol, both women and men, these people seem naturals lol
/r/seduction23/08/24 08:53 PM
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palm reading, palm reading, become a master of that shit and work like crack for chicks lol
/r/seduction23/08/24 08:50 PM
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sometimes they will even tell you lol, this is dead indication she is ready for it, I went on a a hiking trip with a girl, we slept on ther tent she wanted to go for it, I just chicken out lol,
/r/seduction23/08/24 08:49 PM
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Did you know the throat is very similar to the female private parts?, if you have a picture of not even a doctor can't tell the difference!
/r/seduction23/08/24 08:48 PM
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the craig from the time of david d angelo?,
/r/seduction23/08/24 08:47 PM
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right ! this is cool stuff,
/r/seduction23/08/24 08:46 PM
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taking about past experiences and partners, isn't the best thing to do, she will obviously compare you to those experiences, damn Ross Jeffries teaches this stuff in detail and how to steer the convo in that direction without getting into exes, he mentions something along the lines of discussing her fantasies when she is alone or something like that lol, his 3.0 seminar is on youtube, like 9 hjours of great content he touches on this topic in detail.
/r/seduction23/08/24 08:46 PM
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Ross Jeffires teaches this stuff in detail,
/r/seduction23/08/24 08:40 PM
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been playing too much starfield, before that other games, before that go out of a fling with girl, I almost scored but it felt apart in the end lmao, that kind of set me back again into usual behaviors, but I'm going to make some changes the upcoming months of go out stronger than ever, cold approach like a machine, like its a video game lol, considering doing more psychedelics, stronger this time,
/r/seduction22/08/24 03:19 PM
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use psychedelics, find people who perform the therapy or find a dealer they usually can point you out the best dosage for a first experience.
/r/seduction22/08/24 03:16 PM
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cool stuff
/r/seduction22/08/24 03:15 PM
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undesireble perhaps, but I would say clueless instead, they are just clueless men, lot of guys on that boat, but there are maps out there people figured this stuff out in the past.
/r/seduction01/08/24 09:09 PM
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guys before you already did it, dont reinvent the wheal,
/r/seduction01/08/24 09:07 PM
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begin small, divide your learning and knowledge in chunks, start by opening a set, just open, see what happens, open a single set, then a 2 set and so on, open then create interest, and so on, it makes no sense to go into 100 girls right away and im not reading the whole thing, but do you have a plan with the approach, so like I said, focus on opening, then creating interest, and start from there, dude, read the game from Neil strauss , best advice I can give you.
/r/seduction01/08/24 09:06 PM
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it's mostly inner game and language, looks aren't that important to women, go and read some books and then practice.
/r/seduction26/07/24 04:00 AM
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openers are solid if you practice them a lot, it's better to be direct than talking about random shit from the enviroment on the spot at the end of the day, you are atracted to her, it's best just to be direct lol, but in order to get there, it's good practice to talk with everyone about random shit like you mention.
/r/seduction26/07/24 03:34 AM
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looks aren not that important dude, get that in your head, it's more imporatnt your grooming and your clothing, just need to be well groomed and use clothing that makes you stand up a bit from the average loser, shave the back of your head, mantain always a clean haircut, clean your nails, wear clean clothes, shit basic to do but most of us have forgotten lol
/r/seduction26/07/24 03:32 AM
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interesitng question, it's not important, it's more important your tone of voice and how you project yourself, your bofy language, however if you can't keep an intereing conversation it's over, but when you first open your mouth it's not that important
/r/seduction26/07/24 03:30 AM
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if you are interesing and have game, you can be live in the basement of your mother and still do really good with women, it's all relative lol, its depends on the woman, if she is college and doing well, it might be more challenging to keep her, but what do you know ! anything can happen.
/r/seduction26/07/24 03:13 AM
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about 1/3 of guys worldwide are becoming these inepts, shy, terrible weak people so yeap if you take that into consideration, there is a good chance if you act different now
/r/seduction26/07/24 03:07 AM
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whoa best commend in here, a lot of clueless guys or guys with just low self-stem and terrible limiting believes on these comments, glad to see you are evidence of stuff that I 've been learning, women still love and crave and man with confidence to approach them in real life, not behind a screen or social media.
/r/seduction26/07/24 03:06 AM
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dude it's still pretty easy to ask for a number on the streets or wherever, to this day, in fact you can be more classy and have them write the number where you take notes or stuff,
/r/seduction26/07/24 03:04 AM
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what say in number 2 is interesting, there is clear epidcemic of weak guys in the last few years, and like peterson discuss on one of his videos, if the men are falling behind, and women will chase only after the 3% guys, they will not succed and eventually is going to create a massive chaos in society, maybe you are witnessing that?, crazy stuff, Im 30 but still in college so it's very different out here lol, but holy shit, dating outside seems like a whole other level.
/r/seduction26/07/24 03:02 AM
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social media has influenced things, but I still believe with true confidence and grwoth and no scarcity mindset you can do pretty well, get off social media, don;t blow her phone, focus on your mission and purpose, don't chase, show interest but never chase, and just keep pushing and pushing and go out on endless dates, to hone your skills, dealing with women is just another skill, it's a difficult and very charged emotionanlly but the roadmap is out there and still works.
/r/seduction26/07/24 03:00 AM
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RDS dude is good, but so it's david dangelo, neil strauss, ross jeffries, those dudes are the real deal when it comes to all these theories and inner game stuff, all the inner game stuff from these dudes is amazing, I would also add into that mix hypnotica.
/r/seduction26/07/24 02:34 AM
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RIGHT !,
/r/seduction26/07/24 02:32 AM
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game is the best word ! you have to have game, that's why neiil wrote the game lol !trust the game ! that shit works !
/r/seduction26/07/24 02:31 AM
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be interesting is one thing but to have a nice personality seems like a pretty void statement, and yeap I agree, I've also seen beauties with average dudes, here in south america, and the most glaring example is the guy neil strauss, 5'6 big nose bald jew, and everyone familiar with seduction knows the story of the guy and the type of girls he got,
/r/seduction26/07/24 02:31 AM
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yeap man no worries, wasn't mine, tho, I read it on the books, check out the material , of Neil strauss, david D angelo, Ross jeffries, those guys are the gods of dating and women, attraction never changes across time, those principles will always apply.
/r/seduction10/05/24 06:56 PM
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it's called the annihilation method, it's like a seminar he did with 5 dudes, right at the end when he was about to retire from the PUA stuff, it's insane lol, use torrents to get it, because I have no clue where you can get that otherwise nowadays, it was recorded in like 2005 I think, that is the kind of advice we need on this sub, way too much superficial stuff.
/r/seduction07/05/24 04:05 PM
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Great point !
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:37 AM
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Stop spreading bullshit and limiting believes lol, looks are secondary a man however should dress well, groom well, smell good, big difference there, a powerful voice and great body language too that’s all that matters big difference there.
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:36 AM
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Taking to women at random, the ones that get your attention
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:34 AM
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Well you should never sexualize or romance over text
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:33 AM
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If I was clueless and you gave me this advice I would still be clueless lol, this sub is seriously lacking quality depth advice and not superficial stuff lol, how would he romance? Good strategy? Games to touch her? Playing with her hands? Great questions that elicit those feelings lol
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:33 AM
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Check anthonylifestyle on YouTube
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:30 AM
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It’s not vague lol, he does not escalate date ends with a hug, so have been there and when that happens is over very few girls will give you a second chance after that
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:29 AM
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Your post is not vague just from the title I can tell you it’s because you didn’t escalate you came off as just a friend, you didn’t have the courage to go for escalation and close with the kiss, you have to kiss during the date otherwise the chance kiss at the end without escalation with almost fail, she is getting turn off almost 99% of the time this happens, check out Anthonylifestyle on YouTube, it’s the most solid dating on YouTube from what I have seen and then replay those dates in your m…
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:28 AM
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Yeap, knowing around your city is huge, local events will laced where you can take her based on information you have gathered, all of these tips are in the book of Neil Strauss lol
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:24 AM
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Go for the 7,8,9’s lol and find your Damon purpose in life hahaha good job where did you meet?
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:22 AM
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Pretty much lol, these women crave Americans Europeans and shit it is what is, but the rules of the game are valid with every woman worldwide
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:13 AM
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Philippine women are cute
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:12 AM
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Cool stuff but Marson sucks lol
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:06 AM
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Change the would you like to > let’s go out; huge difference the language you use lol
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:04 AM
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Lmao being direct is a good thing but you have to build rapport first, you are stranger after all
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:03 AM
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Are you in the USA? Lots of Muslim girls over there lol, anyway I think you need to build rapport and to minimize flacking talk to her for 5 min at least after she gives you her number, Neil teaches this and it has happened to me before, asking straight up for number and then texting let’s meet for coffee usually ends up in a flake with a bullshit excuse lol
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:01 AM
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Like Neil Strauss says the best way to meet women is by having something else you are passionate about besides pick up lol, having an exiting life but talking to every woman you have the chance would be great approach
/r/seduction07/05/24 06:59 AM
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Dates on the spot would be great if you really click with the woman, I had a fling lately and so much stuff I could have done better we meet at college lunch and we talked for hours I could have invited her for insta date that same day, something like that would be better imo
/r/seduction07/05/24 06:57 AM
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Eighth lol, these are the works themes, if you can put it on a graph, a table, too logical it’s probably not a good idea of conversation
/r/seduction07/05/24 06:55 AM
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Holy shit, crazy stuff but do you have a good plan? I’d recommend those videos from Neil stauss man he nails this stuff really well, how to open a set, your body language being way more socially aware than most people, and always taking responsibility, there are no bitches and stuff like that.
/r/seduction07/05/24 06:54 AM
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I bet all my non existent money it was alcohol lol, I tried to cope with social anxiety with wine after pandemic but I think it would work great now using it for the approach haha
/r/seduction07/05/24 06:51 AM
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Hahah totally agree with you this sub is dry of actual useful knowledge, very generic stuff a good gem here and there from time to time, nice post btw
/r/seduction07/05/24 06:49 AM
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Sperm chases egg not the other way around big realization for me yesterday lol, it’s been always like that, the more approaches the more chance to get a number or date on the spot It all start with the approach lol
/r/seduction07/05/24 06:47 AM
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I’m 30 kind of broke but I’m going college for a nice degree lol but I’m working on getting good at the game and it’s like I was blind before lol
/r/seduction07/05/24 06:44 AM
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Best advice, never reveal that unless they get really get annoying about it, and even tho if you a nice rotation just keep joking about it lol
/r/seduction07/05/24 06:43 AM
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None of that matters ultimately if you have good game and can engage her emotions you are golden, easier said than done tho but reading about it is pretty cool evidence, I’m 30 I have been with 23 and I have taken them on nice long hiking trips and stuff which so did in my younger years, old people had have more experiences they can share.
/r/seduction07/05/24 06:42 AM
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True and not, first you seems to have engraved the believe that women crave looks primarily which is wrong, and it all depends on how you make them feel, your game, Neil stauss in one interview said he would game a lot of young women and he was 36 at the time. A lot of women do like older guys, they are more experienced.
/r/seduction07/05/24 06:39 AM
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Don’t tell them, give them a range, do a lot of fractionation is what Ross Jeffries teaches go from topic to topic interesting stuff back and forth with great questions games, hmm hard to explain here but currently studying that stuff hard but it’s lovely, David frángelo is the other one who teaches how to dodge those questions and reality is, women like older men, they are more experienced more mature, they sexual use and escalate more, more courageous, all of that in theory lol
/r/seduction07/05/24 06:37 AM
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the throwing party at your house is pretty effective indeed and technically you can just meet guys who do this, you just go there contribute with a fee for drinks and you are set, the few parties I've been in college where guys would do this, would end up in an orgy sort of, each to their own.
/r/seduction22/04/24 09:44 PM
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Definitely way younger than you it seems lol, damn still, If I were you, I would enroll in seminars and stuff at these colleges and universities, learn a new skill, enroll in night school, also on sport events hiking trips or beaches organized within that environment, here is the big tip, don't make chasing women your primary goal lol, it should only a gloried hobby, like I said it's better to meet women while you are taking seminars and improving yourself, rather than just finding girls, same w…
/r/seduction22/04/24 09:29 PM
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I'd find a group instead that way you get to interact with women, hold hands and stuff
/r/seduction22/04/24 07:10 AM
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what is like the music in American Clubs? here is south America is mostly salsa lol, and some shitty music I don't like but a lot of salsa too, I mean and supposedly in germany is mostly electronic music lol, so what is like over there in the US, actually women love dancing, it's a skill every man should learn.
/r/seduction22/04/24 07:09 AM
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easy mode is actually also approaching girls you don't find attractive lol, still go to college campus I can't think right now a better place for that hahaha
/r/seduction22/04/24 07:06 AM
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these types of post are a gold mine!
/r/seduction22/04/24 07:05 AM
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there is the language barrier, you would need to practice with women around college campus where the English level is moderate, I'd say no, there are plenty of women wherever you are, if you want to overcome that, I'd try getting into activities with lots of women, like yoga and dancing classes, and who doesn't like that shit?, it's healthy, and women love it, and then just approach and open lots of women, with casual questions, the best place to do that is actually around areas with lots of col…
/r/seduction22/04/24 07:04 AM
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best thing to say to a woman is NO, take that a you will haha
/r/seduction22/04/24 06:40 AM
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a fellow David D student as well?
/r/seduction22/04/24 03:54 AM
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haha
/r/seduction22/04/24 12:40 AM
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I would have said, come and I'll let you can use mine, I can teach you a few tricks, perfect opportunity to get physical lol, imagine you holding hands when teaching her balance and stuff and so on hahaha, bruh, it's the reason why I we need think 10 times before texting back.
/r/seduction22/04/24 12:39 AM
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right, they move on quick and don't care and I think we need to have the same mindset lol, but men have to be the hunters, approach women, like a machine, Lots of options, it's the only way to get confidence and save yourself some from emotional turmoil when the one girl you were dating decides to end it lmao.
/r/seduction22/04/24 12:37 AM
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a little training squad hahaha
/r/seduction22/04/24 12:02 AM
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they were probably 9 or 10's who have way more options, that's why it's important to get good with the 5-8's so when the hottie appears you are ready hahaha
/r/seduction21/04/24 11:58 PM
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attraction isn't a choice,
/r/seduction21/04/24 11:57 PM
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yes woman, text him, show that you are interested, he should take the lead from there, hahaha, this is awesome seeing things from the perspective of the woman, had he texted you first or right after the date, you would've felt an incontrollable loss of attraction, not a huge deal, not the ideal thing either.
/r/seduction21/04/24 11:09 PM
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the code was cracked in the 2000's indeed, 2003-2007 was the highest point,
/r/seduction21/04/24 10:03 PM
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this is great, now do it, 999 more times! success breeds confidence! , this is actually my medium-term goal, opening 500 or 1k sets in college, mine is huge, like 45k people at least hahaha
/r/seduction21/04/24 10:02 PM
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confidence is what you get when you get more success with women, but if not confidence, how do you even start, Neil strauss calls that shit the biggest bullshit advice ever hahaha, along with jUst bE yOursElf actually, for clarification confidence is in any field is when you are really good at that by shitloads of practice, so yeap
/r/seduction21/04/24 09:49 AM
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sounds like a great advice haha, whoa, actually pretty solid, indeed bheyond that people are just too wasted.
/r/seduction21/04/24 09:45 AM
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Asians are super cute, but im more into philipinas they are like latinas but with japanese eyes lmao
/r/seduction21/04/24 09:44 AM
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go on another activity for a date, something fun and exciting that releases endorphins like hiking or something like that, invite her alone , or Idk find something, or maybe drinks, do the usual kino escalation and then tell her out of the blue, Do you wanna kiss me?, if she says no, you know where you stand lol, yeap it's the friendzone, all other answers mean yes; aka maybe, not here, later; that's how you know where you stand and quickly weed out the girl who are not romantically interested l…
/r/seduction21/04/24 09:41 AM
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there is no context , first date?, or a friend you want to be in a relationship with?, you went for the kiss already? you did the kiss test?, she moved her face away?, or said no?, I can't tell what is going on lol, it's always good to date at least 3 women lol, so yeap move on to more ladies, for you own emotional wellbeing. Dating only one girl is suffering.
/r/seduction21/04/24 07:24 AM
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read double your dating from davidDAngelo, it's an old ebook, this stuff is in detail there
/r/seduction21/04/24 07:20 AM
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well, a lot of STEM major are creeps and they 've cancelled quite a few at my univ lol, I don't even know understand what we are discussing anyway hahaha
/r/seduction21/04/24 03:25 AM
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I would also say if she brings up her ex and shit at times, big red flag she is not over yet and might end up giving you the, I'm not ready for a relation (with you lol) yet.
/r/seduction21/04/24 03:08 AM
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I'm not sure about the first one When she sends mixed signals, it's often a sign she's not interested. can you give an example lol
/r/seduction21/04/24 03:06 AM
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hahaha
/r/seduction21/04/24 03:06 AM
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everything she tells you, you can use it, have a mix of storytelling, humor, jokes, mix some stuff of psychology of personality, personality test, open ended questions, don't cherry pick stuff from youtube or reddit, go read books on this stuff lol, there are plenty, have cheat sheet and rehearse what you are going to say before a date, it really helps a lot, but trust me, is better to go read some books on that instead of asking for advice here.
/r/seduction21/04/24 03:03 AM
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I mean yeap if you ask a natural how is he good with women, they will most likely tell you they lost their virginity very early on, before 15 yo, that's why women don't hold any power over them. Going through puberty with that attitude is insane, but I get your point, I guess working on that mindset and what you describe on the second part is very important as well, sort of like faking it till you make it for some but it is what is.
/r/seduction21/04/24 02:54 AM
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^ this is solid advice
/r/seduction21/04/24 02:48 AM
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women love the validation and attention of being asked for a number lol, getting one means nothing really, it's a numbers game literally. hahaha
/r/seduction21/04/24 02:46 AM
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text her after 1 or 2 days of getting the phone, send a few short, funny messages, and then tell her, what is your schedule like, when are you available to meet, let's go for coffee at xyz, cheese cake factory at such and such time and get off the phone dude, don't waste time haha chances of you raising her interest level by chatting with her are pretty low, I have women like that and it goes nowhere , that's why you have to make a great impression when asking the phone, don't even leave after t…
/r/seduction21/04/24 02:45 AM
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most STEM majors only go to drink beer and have terrible social skills with women, my univ is huge very progressive, I bet you all the money is not different from other parts of the world lmao, it's useless and a waste of time, no way in hell you are getting good hanging out with people like that, and the few who are good and extrovert are rare, or perhaps it also depends on the university?, the so called colleges, perhaps, more parting less studying, hard to tell without actual data.
/r/seduction21/04/24 02:40 AM
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great points !
/r/seduction21/04/24 02:31 AM
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you've fumbled going for it lol, I did it twice last year, it think indeed is anxiety, second time I got close last year but still nothing, and they lose all attraction for you after such event, this seems like a sticking point for me as well, perhaps I just need to review this stuff on the books, to be honest I haven't even studied this stuff on the books, I cherry picked some ideas from david de angelo seminar called power sexuality but nothing else, but yeap I know how it feels lol.
/r/seduction21/04/24 02:30 AM
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hmm let me guess, computer science or software engineering lol, hmm man, I know the feeling right, but here is the thing, if you are focused and determined you can make great progress in one year, so here how I would do it; torrent the book from Neil Strauss the game, read that book at least 10 times, believe me, you might want to skip the theory and just go to the nuts and bolts of things, but you 've never even held hands with a girl, so don't skip the theory lol, ignore for the meantime all o…
/r/seduction20/04/24 07:30 PM
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probably as clueless as him, it's worthless, such is the case of most engineering students, I mean I'm also engineering hence the comment haha I mean you have to hang out with people better than you in the area you want to improve; valuable skill for anything in life.
/r/seduction20/04/24 07:14 PM
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this can help and alleviate the feeling indeed.
/r/seduction20/04/24 07:11 PM
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this guy barely talks to women, and you point him out to read a book on sex? the sex stuff comes later when he is going out on dates and stuff, he needs to learn how to open a group of girls, how to keep a conversation, how to demonstrate value lol,
/r/seduction20/04/24 07:06 PM
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stop the antidepressant bullshit medication asap bro, that shit is going to make you delete yourself worst case scenario, do instead psychedelic therapy, check out in your area if there are therapist and practitioners, or go to LA, or buy mushrooms on your own and consult the dosage with the seller, and eat once a month. after that do image consulting, at least for your haircut, beard, looks are secondary, you must program this believe in your brain, looks are secondary, repeat it every day, gro…
/r/seduction20/04/24 07:23 AM
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what is that shit ? hahaha, torrent the book of neil strauss, and double your dating from David DAngelo, perhaps some material from Ross Jeffries if you need solid inner game, ignore the rest of stuff, it's the same regurgitated principles taught by those guys I mentioned.
/r/seduction20/04/24 03:07 AM
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because most men approach this issue from a logical standpoint, and that is just not how it works, see we were supposed to learn this by being around men, and dad and stuff, but for some of us, it wasn't the case, not only it's not a logical issue, it's actually very counter intuitive , I mean it's worth for the sake of alleviating some of the pain because this is a very emotionally charged area of life, and so how can you be authentic when you don't even know the road, you don't have a map for …
/r/seduction20/04/24 02:46 AM
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a lot of escalation and physical touch, do the kiss test, bring your lips closer to hers, watch out for signals of course, tell her to be present and don't think if you are going to kiss her or not during the date, important to build enough attraction and go for it before the end, trying to go for the kiss in the end is terrible.
/r/seduction20/04/24 02:39 AM
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if you are arrogant and think your smarts will get you anywhere, go ahead lol, this is the case for most "smart" people, they think asking for advice on such things to people they consider "less intelligent." is not worth it, you couldn't be more wrong hahaha
/r/seduction20/04/24 02:31 AM
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this is amazing, a nice post for once! the line for the campus was amazing, for someone who is still in college, a huge college actually (40k students) with a bunch of lovely Latinas because it's in south America lol, my type of girl too, genuinely lots of great insights from this post ! thanks again and keep us updated indeed!
/r/seduction20/04/24 02:27 AM
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aka you believes, these stuff are powerful more than most of us realize, that is what dictates our behaviour for the most part
/r/seduction18/04/24 06:13 PM
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the game from neil strauss and double your dating from david d angelo, there is genuinely no better starting point than that, everything else on the web and the modern dating coaches only regurgitate the principles which are described in those books.
/r/seduction18/04/24 09:24 AM
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one those electronic music clubs? germans are tall aren't they, are you below 6 feet?
/r/seduction18/04/24 02:46 AM
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you mix telling interesting stories that demonstrate value and though provoking questions, silly games too, you need to use all the tools and it also depends on the woman,
/r/seduction18/04/24 02:44 AM
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I rather go with daygame lol, this makes no sense at all hhahah but hmm who knows, you got to be open to try everything !
/r/seduction18/04/24 02:42 AM
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if she flakes but it's interested and eager, she will make the space and suggest another time and date, but if not, 2 days go by why the heck would you text again, that lowers your value as a man lol, she is not interested, delete the number from your phone, right then and there lol
/r/seduction18/04/24 02:40 AM
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and you can hear her voice and response, if you hear a flakey tone of voice, or a maybe, you can be more certain! but I don't know I like to send voice messages and some girls are either, just to shy for that or won't reply with voice,
/r/seduction18/04/24 02:38 AM
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totally 100%
/r/seduction18/04/24 02:36 AM
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move on to the next, always have more backups
/r/seduction18/04/24 02:36 AM
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just use texting to set up the next date lol, don't text shit that you can talk face to face, don't do it, I know it's hard but focus on your purpose instead, do with this advice as you will, and say you are dating a particular girl, you set up a date each week, but if you date 3 women at once, one date on friday, one on satuday so on and so on, and you don't even have to spent a ton of money.
/r/seduction18/04/24 02:35 AM
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go to the books man, read the guys who figure this shit out in the past, read Neil sTrauss book and double your dating from david D Angelo, get them from libgen(dot)is, you won't need anything else, learn very well the principles and then go out and practice. in theory getting good with women will help every other aspect of your life, but it will take time, keep focused on your purpose and make this a side hobby, a very important hobby but a hobby nonetheless.
/r/seduction18/04/24 02:30 AM
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genius is the perfect balance of experience/practice and theory, going out and experiencing stuff without haveing a clue what the heck you are doing is useless, it will take a long time, that's why they say a good book will save you 5 years at least, but yeap your point is great, there are guys that read too many book, go out to seminars, youtube, even spending too much time online and they don't approach.
/r/seduction18/04/24 12:41 AM
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first reg flag in this interaction is the fact that you both already exchanged 400 text lmao, GET her our of there dude, invite her too meet for a coffee, quit wasting your time, in 400 text you could have interacted with more women and do something more practical hahah
/r/seduction18/04/24 12:06 AM
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I can feel your pain haha
/r/seduction17/04/24 09:12 PM
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but he had a condom probably, unlike me once hahaha lmao
/r/seduction17/04/24 08:38 PM
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crazy stuff lol, women fractionate like that emotionally and mentally, if my almost nonexistent experienced but from from the stuff I've learnt if that you should have always end the thing yourself push and pull, when you guys were at home, you could have done many things to escalate then back off, escalate then back down, until you fry her emotional circuitry so hard that she is ready set go, for instance, massage her hands, knuckles all of that, then, back off, being very dominant for instance…
/r/seduction17/04/24 08:36 PM
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women give signals through her body, in falls on the man to do the escalation and now that I think about it, pretty much to do everything lol, such are the dynamics of dating and matting, has been like that forever,
/r/seduction17/04/24 04:58 AM
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damn Arizona University, isn't that like the biggest campus in the US lol, crazy stuff haha
/r/seduction16/04/24 05:43 AM
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hahaha engineering?
/r/seduction16/04/24 05:40 AM
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you can gauge a date interest level in you by the size and brightness of their pupils, it's connected to all those chemicals released in the brain, oxytocin, dopamine, if you struggle with that just practice looking at people in their eyes and be the last to break eye contact.
/r/seduction16/04/24 05:38 AM
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this is quite a terrible post, you are boiling down the fact that a cold approach didn't work to a single variable which is the guy is a stranger, I believe it's definitely more complex than that, more things to take into account and that have to do with the guy doing the approach.
/r/seduction16/04/24 05:33 AM
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Whether a girl decides to go on a date with you the vibe the intent, and how the man communicates all that across, totally agree with you on the first thing as well , who the f** does group dating lmao, it's the most ridiculous advice I've seen and I think I know where is coming, but I thought /seduction was a free place far from that stuff,
/r/seduction16/04/24 05:06 AM
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getting good with women and dating should only be a hobby, a big hobby but I hobby nonetheless, find your purpose again and the thing that you like to do no matter what;
/r/seduction16/04/24 03:23 AM
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kinda like opinion openers which indeed are extremely effective lol, it helps break the ice, I think you are onto something here
/r/seduction16/04/24 03:20 AM
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well that's the thing, you only get confidence after each success with women, so it's a infinite loop lmao, you have to interact with women first in order to gain confidence, I'd say courage is the only cheat code, but then again, how you gain courage lol?
/r/seduction16/04/24 03:19 AM
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that seems like a good plan, keeping the count of how many you interact with lol
/r/seduction16/04/24 03:17 AM
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by having a present father that is objectively an asshola, that's the story of most naturals if not, study the people who got good with women, they already cracked the code in the 2000's, read and study their material and then just go out and practice, unfortunately a big chunk of getting good with women involves getting good socials skills and becoming more social with men as well. hang out with guys who are good with women, for me personally this one seems a challenge too like the first hahaha
/r/seduction16/04/24 03:16 AM
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last two years I've had counting in my head like 10 solid opportunities where girls in college showed interest in dating and like 3 other girls where it was ready set go I was in bed with 2 , and one invited to her house, and I just didn't take it lol, it happens to all of us man, don't let the ruminant thought get in the way, run that shit in your head at will but imagine doing the right thing every time, and just let it go, and actually start approaching more women again, there is no other way…
/r/seduction16/04/24 02:55 AM
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I'd say get asap into dancing classes lol, or voice or yoga, lots of women you can interact with and it will ease those feelings a bit while you work on yourself and actually approach women and start dating lol
/r/seduction16/04/24 02:50 AM
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. Or what’s also great when you have a blanket and you use all of it intentionally so she’s like “heyy.. give me some of the blanket” and you get closer. oh this is awesome, this one is going into my journal hahaha
/r/seduction16/04/24 02:49 AM
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your hands seem big/small let’s compare them yep I do this one all the time actually it's a good way to start touching as soon as possible, but mine is the most genuine since I have tiny hands for a man, so I like to compare, always mine are still bigger by a tiny bit haha
/r/seduction16/04/24 02:48 AM
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no way really?, but how come when there are a bunch of universities, it should be good on Fridays and stuff i suppose, there should be a shit ton of interesting stuff around those campus.
/r/seduction16/04/24 02:45 AM
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lucky guy hahahaha, this stuff is super rare lol, how would you rate her attractiveness.
/r/seduction15/04/24 11:50 PM
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great advice, hahaha so here is the thing; how do they even happen in engineering school?, in most of my classes there is like 1 or 2 women lmao
/r/seduction15/04/24 11:47 PM
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underneat all the social and cultural programming bulllshit pretty much all women brain is wired the same way.
/r/seduction15/04/24 11:26 PM
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women love when you are persistent, that's a good point, even if it was rejected doesn't mean she lost interest and they appreciate more that you respected her boundaries, don't give it much thought, reflect on what you did good, what you could improve and keep going on with your purpose, work/school, also date more women lol, don't just stay with this one, date at least 3 women, the time when this one flake on you for whatever reason, it will suck a lot hahaha, amd only date this one once a wee…
/r/seduction15/04/24 11:23 PM
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Boston ehh, I heard the place has one of the top 5 highest standards of living in the US right, and a bunch of colleges and universities. Perfect place for this stuff lol, I wish you luck finding a wingman, but in the meantime, go out and meet women at the colleges campuses and stuff, you'd have better luck in there than asking here I think hehehe
/r/seduction15/04/24 11:14 PM
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neil strauss is 5'6 and mystery is like 6'5 I believe, and from what I 've read neil had as much success as him when they would go out in the field, even so far as telling him he was the best pick up artist at the time, sure thing, height as changed since 20 yrs ago women are taller but I believe it's still about your vibe and confidence.
/r/seduction15/04/24 11:07 PM
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absolutely no correlation, in fact a lot of women like to date older men, more experienced and stuff, it was probably 100% your vibe lol
/r/seduction15/04/24 11:04 PM
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jfc looks are just a part of the equation, what matters most is your vibe, your attitude, your intention, neil strauss is bald with big nose and 5'6 lmao
/r/seduction15/04/24 11:02 PM
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I feel like most people aren't going to agree with what I am going to say but I noticed when a woman really likes, she will do the escalating, touching for you. this is totally on point, she gives clues, she will touch her hair, big bright pupils, her smile, her body language directed towards you, staying on the lookout for that is important!
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:34 AM
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what is going on with you lmaoo go back to dating_advice sub
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:32 AM
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having a concrete plan or a map helps immensely lol, if they guy has no clue how to do it, and people he ask for advice just tell him vague garbage, I can only imagine the situation hahah, this is stuff you learn by looking at adults do it, your dad, uncles all that stuff, but some of us didn't have that luxury hahaha
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:31 AM
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You can give examples to someone who doesn't know, and they'll get the idea and make their own examples. totally !
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:28 AM
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dude I was dating once a girl and she casually told me, she plays tennis, I immediately told her, show me your arms and squeezed it really hard to checkout those muscles hahaha, you clearly know the stuff, but again all of these depend on the interaction and practice.. 6 sounds amazing, I would usually walk her to another venue and if she start bumping into me, I tell her what are you doing!, and dropping this line would be even perfect!! 8 is amazing too ! and I 've done something myself simila…
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:23 AM
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You see? You wait for something special to happen (jewelry, hair), while I encourage OP to create such opportunities and not wait for "special moments". this seems like a reasonable approach
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:20 AM
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I once told a girl I was dating to wear nice black leather pants and black boots, she didn't do it the next date but once she told me to meet and there she was, wearing that lmao, I obviously did the spin thing, it wasn't very smooth, but she complied, oh well that was like the 4th date hahaha, definitely on the first date would be something more while playing pool or bowling, but still lots of calibration
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:18 AM
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the only bad experience is he just probably stayed off form social interactions for too long, what you dont use you lose, but all the circuitry is there, just need to exercise those muscles again,
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:16 AM
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It might just be me, but I'm not seeing something really important in these comments. not just you, literally almost no one gives concrete advice lol, I can feel the pain of this guy, when dates just lose all interest, and you are left wondering what the heck went wrong lmao
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:13 AM
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the plexiglass imaginary wall hahaha
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:12 AM
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dancing, such old timeless skill all men should have lol
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:12 AM
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great insight !!, this should be at the top lol; You can even, suggest playing games that require touching. For example, thumb wrestling, palm reading, truth or dare, drawing on each other’s backs, playing footsie, tickle war, mirror game,… etc I remember this one where you write words letter by letters on each one back and then try to guess, it's super cool move and you can get to touch her back and you can tell how she reacts every time you write a letter lol, great one!!
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:10 AM
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this is great advice too, the jewelry one specially
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:09 AM
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I only understood this lmao Kiss at the end of the date is boring B class movie shit. which is great btw, always go for the kiss around the middle of the date,
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:08 AM
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cool stuff
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:05 AM
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great great stuff, I also love to tell them something like, Show me your hand, and I position mine to clap to check out how long their hand and finger are compared to mine, since I have small hands for a man, but always mine are a bit bigger anyway hahaha
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:05 AM
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this is so true, but I'm seeing logical answers and nothing concrete for this guy lol, I can feel his pain hahaha
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:03 AM
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I think you are lost sir, shouldn't you be at /dating_advice hahaha
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:02 AM
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have you looked for more info about this issue lol?, youtube? books?, you sound so confused like this is so strange to you, check out a few videos on youtube, there are some old video of mystering teaching about what he calls kino escalation, this stuff works like magic, there are some great videos from neil strauss too, silly games and stuff that help break that barrier, also if you clearly see she is touching you, moving in your direction showing interest, bumping into you, touching your arms …
/r/seduction15/04/24 05:00 AM
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I'm 5'6 in engineering, I've fumbled 3 shots so far in two years, I got some more time left but it is what is , gotta go out and hit on girl like a machine like its a video game lol
/r/seduction15/04/24 04:48 AM
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hang with men who are good at the game as well lol, that's one way, or just get into dancing classes, salsa or bachata, join yoga classes too,
/r/seduction15/04/24 04:26 AM
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why? because perhaps looks, height, and money are pretty secondary things when it comes to women and dating, check out the programs of Ross Jeffries he explains why this is in great detail
/r/seduction15/04/24 03:55 AM
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after pandemic I took the same approach, I just had spent way too much fucking time at a farm lol, hey I tried psychedelics and it helped me a bit, here is the thing, just talk to alot of people on the phone, call random shit you psych yourself up, then go in person, go to grocery stores and shit talk to people random people do it for a ocuple of hours, you will feel a whole lot better, are you in college or where do you usually go to meet women?
/r/seduction15/04/24 03:52 AM
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no point in piling guit on ourselves bro, deteach from the emotion, run the shit at will but imagine makeing the right thing everytime
/r/seduction15/04/24 03:49 AM
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bruh Neil strauss is 5'6 , what you on about, let go of those limiting believes haha
/r/seduction15/04/24 03:48 AM
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a happy ending !
/r/seduction15/04/24 03:47 AM
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I've had like 4 experiences of this caliber, and they still haunt me at times lmao although none longer than 18 months so yeap, I'll start the sarging again in few weeks hehehe but I can imagine the feel lol
/r/seduction15/04/24 03:44 AM
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lol you definitely do this : he started going back and forth from looking into my eyes to staring at my lips, but when you are dating someone to calibrate if they want to be kissed, the way this man is using it here is just out of place. hahaha, you reaction to it, it's interesting,
/r/seduction14/04/24 08:48 AM
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ask for an opinion, a genuine one works pretty well
/r/seduction14/04/24 08:40 AM
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who cares lol, it's still college, those are among the most common and terrible limiting believes
/r/seduction14/04/24 08:39 AM
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oh yeap forgot one really important, join mindfulness groups and yoga classes, those alone are powerful; full of women ! hehehe
/r/seduction14/04/24 08:16 AM
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cold approach rarely works, hmm taking for experience or it is an absolute truth lol, that's a terrible limiting believe honestly.
/r/seduction14/04/24 07:52 AM
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replying you to rehearse a little bit here it goes: coffee places, public libraries, parks, in some waiting line; all of the above in big college campus, hmm cinema, huge plazas with lots of people, tourist locations, bar areas < which are actually the hardest lol, grocery stores, at dancing classes, salsa/ bachata, get into seminars in college, night seminars or weekends, some outdoor activity like hiking, join groups online, at parties and shit, at work, and of course through your friends or a…
/r/seduction14/04/24 07:51 AM
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yeap good insight, pretty much if you got game, you can do it anywhere !
/r/seduction14/04/24 07:36 AM
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women have more options, this is just the attitude we need as men as well, it's bullshit lol
/r/seduction14/04/24 01:01 AM
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neil strauss teaches yeap it's ultimately your fault but don't punish and pile guilt on yourself just let it go, learn from the interaction, recalibrate and go out and talk to more girls, there is no scarcity of women !!!! but yeap it's hard to get that shit into our brains hahaha believes are one heck of drug lol
/r/seduction14/04/24 01:01 AM
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oh man I know the feeling right, last girl I dated was the same lol, we talked for like 2 hours, we meet in the one of the college lunch areas, it was great, we parted ways 2 months later haha, she did it lmao, definitely OP, you should only use the phone to set up the next date and just date her once per week, that's just the bare minimun but it's more complex hahaha, just keep going, meet more women, remember there is no scarcity of women, especially in university.
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:58 AM
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getting flaked on is the worse feeling indeed lol, the pro's teach you should always have a back up or more hahaha, but congrants on the progress, I'm also in college, mine has like 30k people
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:43 AM
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dang her interest is pretty high !
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:32 AM
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hahaha this is interesting !!!, indeed, the right vibe and attitude would overcome that, Neil Strauss teaches, always approach with the same of sightly above level of enthusiasm and it will always work out
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:14 AM
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advice from women should be taken with a grain of salt, but see here is some evidence lol
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:12 AM
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virtually everywhere approaching the right way, keeping in mind the body language, acting as if you are ready to leave, showing disinterest and ignoring her looks or attractiveness, asking something genuine and interesting, being aware of the situation, is she receptive to being apporached?, so on and so on
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:10 AM
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that is wrong but I'd say there is no other place where the 3 second rule is more imperative than this places, and also it's probably one of the hardest because most men just keep staring creeping out the woman and not talking, it's hard I bet haha
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:09 AM
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it's good practice to write and rehearse what you are going to ask her and talk about and from there just calibrate the interaction, there are many books on the topic, you should give them a read, double your dating from david D angelo is a good starting point.
/r/seduction13/04/24 01:34 AM
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same species, brain is wired differently, plus they uterus lol
/r/seduction13/04/24 01:24 AM
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I'm willing to bet that's not the case lol, acting as if you have better things to do not putting her first but making you first is still attractive to the emotionally healthy mature woman.
/r/seduction13/04/24 01:24 AM
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reminds me of something I listened to last night from Neil strauss interview lol, he found out that most naturals had fathers that were assholes, your comment is more evidence. !
/r/seduction13/04/24 01:21 AM
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oh this is gold, thanks for sharing!
/r/seduction12/04/24 11:35 PM
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Any suggestions? Cause this is killing me... bro learn from the best, the code has been cracked already, go read the game by neal strauss, that's a good starting point, then get on the web to discuss, but maybe consider that first.
/r/seduction12/04/24 11:34 PM
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hey so no back touches, no arm touches, no hugs, tell them us at least one move to get physical, are you a coach or something by the looks of the profile pic lol
/r/seduction12/04/24 11:26 PM
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Make it a rule that you never hug a woman you are in a date with, you either go for a kiss or forget it whoa damn this is powerful, thanks for sharing the insight !, I 've had experiences where yeap didn't escalate then try to go for the kiss but end up giving a hug and feeling like shit afterwards, now I imagine telling her, wanna kiss me?, if not just leave at that and tell her, hugs are for friends, can already imagine walking out with more power and feeling better lol, genuinely thanks for t…
/r/seduction12/04/24 11:24 PM
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everything she says can be used in your advantage to keep the convesation going, ask her what you are most passiaonate about, though provoking questions, what would do with such and such, also tell her stories and jokes.
/r/seduction12/04/24 11:03 PM
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great insight, yeap I doubt they block people off image recognition too lol, tinder is not run by china luckly
/r/seduction12/04/24 10:56 PM
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why not get a new phone just for that shit?, unless they use AI to recognize the images that might be an issue too but I doubt it
/r/seduction12/04/24 10:56 PM
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this one I read on a book but never done it myself, get a glass of your drink and make a toast with every woman in the bar lol, well those are tricks from the most experienced men, but it works for social proof and later women might approach.
/r/seduction12/04/24 10:53 PM
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now you must build attraction, arousal and then if you play cards well it's ready set go, one doesn't mean the other and she can be in either state at once, women are interesting creatures.
/r/seduction12/04/24 07:48 PM
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smart people don't say I'm smart hahahaha, you sound too arrogant in fact, you should know that the more she talks the more success you will have,
/r/seduction12/04/24 07:43 PM
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get her out of tesxting and go for the date asap, quit wasting time with text
/r/seduction12/04/24 07:40 PM
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just like in real life lol, if you think she is hot just looking at pics, how the heck do you manage it in real life??, you take some liquid courage or what , and yeap dating people on reddit happens, it's all a numbers game although I bet the odds are quite low haha
/r/seduction12/04/24 07:39 PM
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nope they are emotional, they fractionate a lot mentally and emotionally , but I agree with the whole thing being a game with certain rules.
/r/seduction12/04/24 07:35 PM
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the material of Ross Jeffries is the best to understand this sort of behavior lol
/r/seduction12/04/24 07:34 PM
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their auto response
/r/seduction12/04/24 07:33 PM
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neil strauss teaches pursing women and pick up should be a hobby, a hobby ranking high in priorities but nonetheless a hobby, you must focus more on your purpose than that, it's part of being attractive to women lol, guys who have goals and ambition towards something are attractive to women.
/r/seduction12/04/24 07:33 PM
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but what is self-confidence bro, people use that word and such a vague thing, in reality that is something that only comes with success, but you have an idea tho, go out and start conversations with anyone, it works pretty well, practice, practice, practice, there is no other way hahaha
/r/seduction12/04/24 12:20 AM
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this is relative bro, there are studies that women can pick up a certain smell in men doesn't matter the deodorant, as long as you don't bathe yourself in that shit, it's all relative, its all related to pheromones and the reptile brain, this stuff is pretty documented on one of David DAngelo programs If I'm not mistaken.
/r/seduction11/04/24 11:53 PM
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this sub is better than garbage like /relationship_advice tho hahaha, why the f* you even want women input in the topic of seduction lol, first rule is never ask a woman for advice when it comes to this stuff, the pros have always taught this,
/r/seduction11/04/24 11:51 PM
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I’ve had “friends” throw me under the bus because they like the girl who obviously likes me and bring up my former drug issues. I didn’t hide from it, leant into it “yeah I’m a recovering cocaine addict, clean 8 years now, it’s why I don’t drink” what a shit human being lol, you cut him off from life right there and there right lol
/r/seduction11/04/24 05:07 AM
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damn this sounds like a really good idea lol!
/r/seduction11/04/24 04:59 AM
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Women love to talk and the more you let them talk, the better it's going to get. 100% !
/r/seduction11/04/24 04:58 AM
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cool stuff indeed, I just stumbled upon her work today lol, downloading as of now haha
/r/seduction11/04/24 04:56 AM
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opinion openers are actually. pretty damn good !
/r/seduction11/04/24 04:55 AM
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literally the people who used to be coached the most in 2000's when the whole pick-up community began was software engineers lol, learn the rules lol, get a good book, the book of neil strauss is the a good starting point, there is a shit ton of more material online from that time, on torrent sites, david d angelo also did a shit ton of video tapes.
/r/seduction11/04/24 04:54 AM
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Use F bombs if it comes to you, disagree with her, tease her, challenge her. The early stages of comfort are all about making sure you're not hiding something. Being unfiltered but calibrated goes a long way. this is good stuff.
/r/seduction11/04/24 04:51 AM
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rightt !!! , and no wonder the advice came from mark manson book, guy is like a terrible coach compared to the older guys who figure this stuff out in the 2000's
/r/seduction11/04/24 04:50 AM
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read the material of David D Angelo, double your dating book and stuff, it's old but it's the best stuff out there,
/r/seduction11/04/24 04:49 AM
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oh I can definitely vouch for this, but saying be vulnerable like previous comment is just too vague!, this is the best approach!, but of course the date shouldn't be all about just that, humor and story telling as well are powerful
/r/seduction11/04/24 04:44 AM
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what sort of vulnerable lol, should he start crying hahaha, or tell her a few of his most important secrets?
/r/seduction11/04/24 04:42 AM
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humor lots of humor, but calibrate the situation because you don't want to come across as a clown, but humor is powerful
/r/seduction11/04/24 04:41 AM
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yeap man, better self-control and emotional mastery next time, be emotionless in those situations, their excuse is meaningless, ultimately means the same she lost the attraction, make zero contact, don't block her although is she does, just forget her, meet other women asap, before you start running shit in your head and bringing up the past and future lol, seriously go out and meet other 3 women.
/r/seduction11/04/24 04:36 AM
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I think you make a good here If she’s touchy feely, leaning into you, that’s usually a green light to move forward as well. But keep paying attention to how she reacts throughout the date and adjust accordingly. this is key, it's what you should be on the lookout during the date and staying away from logical topics lol
/r/seduction11/04/24 03:28 AM
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yeap what you mean active dates lol, women who are touchy?
/r/seduction11/04/24 03:25 AM
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what you mean their shit test?, what kind of test are you talking about? also you go for the kiss in the end but how you escalate things during the date?
/r/seduction11/04/24 03:24 AM
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hmmm
/r/seduction11/04/24 03:22 AM
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they explain and then ghost, do people really get ghosted for no reason no even a goodbye message lol ?
/r/seduction11/04/24 03:21 AM
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you can chase women but keep in mind there is no scarcity, chase as many as you want but if think don't work out with one, just let it go, move on to the next, it's important for mental health to get a practice squad, dating just one woman if terrible idea if you attached lol
/r/seduction11/04/24 03:20 AM
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The hotter she is, the shorter the expiration date. nice way to put it haha
/r/seduction11/04/24 03:18 AM
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most of the time yes, it's very likely, especially if she seems to have more options and it's attractive, you should start escalating slowly up to the kiss or even more, always calibrating the interaction, don't be like the guy who goes for the kiss at the end of the date when he never even touched her hand lol, try to go for the kiss along the middle of the date, and change venues a lot, go to at least 3 diff places that works pretty well.
/r/seduction11/04/24 03:18 AM
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you get in the friendzone when you are wussie, you have no confidence, you display too many traits of nice guy, you arent' romantic enough, can't seduce a woman, basically no experience, also you put her on a pedestal, you display no boundaries, all of that shit makes a woman think of that person in a romantic way repulsive haha
/r/seduction11/04/24 02:30 AM
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hahaha
/r/seduction09/04/24 11:12 PM
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tell her stories tell her jokes, ask her deep meaningful thought provoking questions, stay away from logical topics, only talk about that during divorse haha
/r/seduction09/04/24 10:51 PM
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great !
/r/seduction09/04/24 10:44 PM
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4 years almost no success?, you are doing something wrong or reinventing the wheel, plenty of books to help you with this lol, go and read some books on the topic, watch the program of DAvidDAngelo, read double your dating, and then try again.
/r/seduction09/04/24 10:32 PM
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whoa nice insight, getting into cuddle position or on top of her with clothing of course, and smelling her in the neck for like 10 min and then a bite, does wonder haha.
/r/seduction09/04/24 10:28 PM
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most men crave sex at all times lol, sometimes more sometimes less, you are not unique, relax
/r/seduction09/04/24 10:25 PM
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holy fuck that is crazy hahaha, yeap I would get the heck out of there, there is no scarcity of women, holy shit, I'm into latinas, I'm myself from south america, where exactly do you live in the US that is full of them lol, tell us please.
/r/seduction09/04/24 10:18 PM
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pretty much, superb comment actually haha!,
/r/seduction09/04/24 10:15 PM
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awesome !^
/r/seduction09/04/24 08:46 PM
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this is the terrible dictionary definition, ultimately seduction is part of the mating process and the guy who is clueless about it, his genes will weeded out of existence; Damn DavidDAngelo explain this stuff in beautiful detail in one of his programs.
/r/seduction09/04/24 08:45 PM
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check out the material of david deAngelo, his book double your dating has lots of advice on asking the number.
/r/seduction09/04/24 08:35 PM
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indeed, this is documented on books, lol, they will give you a fake phone, never reply, and the ones that do probably 3 out of 10, that why they say it's a numbers game, although with time you might better the odds, by calibrating the interation, getting a first good impression and so on,
/r/seduction09/04/24 08:34 PM
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become more social, get into activities that you love and also try yoga classes and salsa dancing asap, but yeap overall become more social, talk with more women, there is no other way, and generally stay away from logical topics with women, you have a lot of work to do but better late than never.
/r/seduction09/04/24 07:21 PM
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interesting
/r/seduction09/04/24 07:19 PM
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Ignoring someone is typically a behaviour from someone who has more sexual value than the one being ignored interesting
/r/seduction09/04/24 07:18 PM
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very normal, emotionally healthy girl bingo !!
/r/seduction09/04/24 07:15 PM
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just use the phone to plan dates, and I'd say plan more dates and stuff, when they are like that by the 8th date or so she would be down to have intimacy with you, if you play your cards well and seduce her.
/r/seduction09/04/24 07:14 PM
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interesting hahaha !
/r/seduction09/04/24 07:01 PM
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it should be worded like this instead, put yourself first, second, and third and then everyone else lol, women will put first whoever the man put first.
/r/seduction09/04/24 07:00 PM
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yeap but what are the qualities of this "pretty boy" look more into it lol, masculine traits are more attractive than anything else
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:59 PM
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it creates attraction yes, but it's not the rule, there is more into it lol
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:57 PM
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I'd say try telling jokes and see if she laughs, but from personal experience with a girl from college too just like that, I'd say she is just not interested lol, very low interest, it is what is , just move on to the next.
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:51 PM
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lots of short men are angry guys, probably because they can't get laid unfortunately
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:42 PM
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how old are you?, what part of USA are you from?, this is interesting as well, powerful evidence to change our limiting believes !
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:40 PM
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I realize a couple of days ago, Neil Strauss is actually 5'6 lol, bald and big nose too, and then look at the success he had hahaha, powerful evidence to change our own believes, and I'm not even in the US were people are so tall hahaha
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:39 PM
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it no secret that most tools out there have a certain bias towards these topics lol, especially that garbage from google, however, wouldn't it be interesting to train a model using the material from DavidDAngelo, and to the other extreme perhaps Ross Jeffries lol, that would be interesting hahaha
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:27 PM
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this may help for text messaging, but you'll be super fucked when actually in person and have to come up with shit on the spot. indeed lol, I was telling op that, but it can works as walking aid in the meantime, but it's important to learn to say this stuff face to face and with confidence.
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:26 PM
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there is thin line when negging, but it shouldn't be ruled out or satanized entirely just because of current progessive/liberal movements lol, negging worked in the past, it works now, and it works really well with women with really high self-esteem, calibration is important tho
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:25 PM
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I tend to do this at times with chatgpt, however, keep in mind that when you both see each other face to face, you will be a totally different person, I'd like to view as an aid but one really must learn this stuff and developed that sense of being funny, cocky and stuff, interesting nonetheless lol, I would try to send it in form of coive message, remember tonally is way up there than meaning, that will also help internalize and learn faster the type of responses haha,
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:22 PM
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seduction phase during the date lol, not when you go out on many dates and have to wait but yeap, ultimately that is one of the goals, the woman always have to be willing to go for it lol
/r/seduction28/03/24 10:20 AM
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since those times Americans used to othink you could only meet women in bars and online, it's probably even worse nowdays worldwide
/r/seduction28/03/24 10:10 AM
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ohh right, I though he was talking about the game lol
/r/seduction28/03/24 10:10 AM
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there should only be yes/no banging, lol numbers are stupid
/r/seduction28/03/24 10:09 AM
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the fuck lol, I haven't finished the game book but how would it ruin Neil Strauss life lol, if anything, Ross Jeffries and David DeAngelo are doing exceptionally well, especially Deangelo, the guy is old now but married to a gorgeous woman and have a girl now, if you want to find the right one, you are gonna have to do some work, -David DeAngelo
/r/seduction28/03/24 10:07 AM
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I have 450 GB of material on those guys, I downloaded most of it from rutracker, it's timeless knowledge when it comes to this stuff, especially the material of Ross Jeffries and Neil strauss, but in fact all of it is powerful, what you say is right, but at least these people left a legacy and recorded all that material.
/r/seduction28/03/24 10:03 AM
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pick up lines are the last thing when it comes to learning game lmao, if you are starting from there, chances are you are going to mess up and don't get any results.
/r/seduction28/03/24 09:51 AM
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the you seems familiar line is a terrible line lol, as bad as asking her "can I buy a drink ", better would be like, did we have sex last week or something like that in the event of meeting at a bar, another cool one would be something like: you, you look like, ... someone ... somone I should meet !!!, .... and go from there or ask for her number on the spot and leave.
/r/seduction28/03/24 09:50 AM
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mystery a mess??, lmao what are your stats to claim that, his methods and stuff are still powerful,
/r/seduction28/03/24 09:47 AM
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that's a lot of rejections, you should get at least a yes after the 3rd, 5th (girl you approach) attempt lol perhaps you are doing something wrong indeed, there is a lot of missing info.
/r/seduction26/03/24 02:02 AM
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dating a lot of women is actually the best way to find the right one !
/r/seduction21/03/24 12:26 PM
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young latina/native something along those lines, long straight black perfect hair, and then whatever psychological issues and traumas she's got hahahaha
/r/seduction21/03/24 12:25 PM
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read the material of david de angelo, style (neil strauss) and even Ross Jeffries, mystery, thank me later.
/r/seduction21/03/24 12:21 PM
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read the material of david de angelo, style (neil strauss) and even Ross Jeffries, mystery, thank me later.
/r/seduction21/03/24 12:21 PM
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humour and story telling bro,
/r/seduction21/03/24 12:20 PM
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check out a talk by mystery on youtube, he explains how to approach that scenerio and touch her hair, it's works amazingly well hahaha
/r/seduction21/03/24 12:19 PM
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bro a lot of us didn't grow up with a dad, however, there are many guys out there teaching this stuff, there is no point in dwelling on the past, taking action in the present and grinding, there is no other way haha
/r/seduction21/03/24 12:19 PM
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ouuuuhh shit yeap, hair holding and massaging is important, mystery teaches one awesome technique for that shit, I remember
/r/seduction21/03/24 12:18 PM
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play hand games, touch her hands, go arms crosses, hand holding, give her a massage in hands, back, keep escalating, look at her lips, there is a lot of material on the books lol, you are doing great tho, keep grinding !@
/r/seduction21/03/24 12:16 PM
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you man up and go out and ask more women for numbers and shit, imagine the girl that dumped you, make a clar icture in your mind and then use liquid nitrogen, until she is completely frozen, then smash that shit, make it vivid in you mind lol, and then go out and ask more women, reharse as many times as you need.
/r/seduction21/03/24 11:35 AM
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TLDR: Don't let yourself get bothered, have fun with it. roll with the punchees !!!
/r/seduction09/03/24 04:25 AM
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good approach, but the follow up would be to bombar him with logical questions lol !
/r/seduction09/03/24 04:25 AM
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right !, and the best way to make those stuff come out of his mouth is to bombing him with logical questions lmao, !!! right!! kudos !!
/r/seduction09/03/24 04:23 AM
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I learnt from Tyler, the guy from social dynamics, to get into logical topics, ask him logical questions and that will turn off the woman since she is close, she will expericience all that stuff, and since you might know, women are turn off by logical topics, yeap, get into logical topics with the guy ,as many questions as you possibly can,
/r/seduction09/03/24 04:22 AM
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I like bookish nerdy girls interesting, got some recommendations??, I asked this girl out that I meet last semester on a seminar, we meet again but once she told she loved going to libraries and stuff, she definitely is the nerdy shy type of girl.
/r/seduction05/03/24 07:16 PM
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then keep seducing her, kiss her all you want, and try to explain, it's not a deal breaker as long as you say to her you are working on it, or you are focusing on career, job or whatever,
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:25 PM
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only do dinner dates when you are really experienced with women, otherwise skip it, something to drink only, something cheap, the idea is to get to know her, practice talking to a woman and so no
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:24 PM
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skydiving the fuck hahaha; jumping from actual planes? you mean also yeap Dancing has been the all-time best way to get physical with a woman, it's insane how good it is lmao every man should get on dacing classes asap
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:23 PM
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3erd date no escalation, yeap chances are she already sees you like a cool friend and stuff, when women already form an opinion of who you are, it's hard to get from there, just move on, you escalate by touching her, starting with shoulders, arms, playing games with her hands, reading the lines on her hands, and so on touch her jewelry, walk with arms crosses, then hands, welll all that might lead to a kiss, but you have to be alert to her signs, her body language, you also can invite her to man…
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:20 PM
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dont tell yiourself that, you just have an incomplete map in your mind, keep learning, read double your dating, there is also some good material in video about just that, escalating all the way when she is ready set go, you have to keep inviting her over to your house or else where are you having action lol, and you have to escalate a lot, maybe some drinks, is she okay, never force it, dancing, listen to music, and be always on the lookout for signals from her.
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:06 PM
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you usually invite to your house, have you done that? how are you gonna close the deal lol, set the tone, keep seducing, escalating, massage her hands, her back, cuddle, dry humping, and so on, keep learning and reading about it, then go out and practice
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:03 PM
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you should at least have 3 steady women lol, or you'll eventually get attached, keep things flowing naturally, 1 date per week this this one I would say keep focus on your purpose but remember to keep eyes open for more dating opportunities.
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:31 AM
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what the heck does that mean
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:29 AM
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AAmen
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:27 AM
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biggest freaks are the ones who grew up without a father, the sluttiness level is inversely proportional to the relationship with her dad.
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:26 AM
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last nubmer I got is from someone like that, hahah
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:24 AM
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game and patience, slow cooking, very slow I'd say
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:24 AM
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I usually say you don't know me yet lol, and leave it at, nothing happens, detached from the outcome, on to the next,
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:22 AM
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learning game around older men, fathers, uncles, who were good with women lol, otherwise hire a prostitute lol
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:21 AM
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yeap inner game is perhaps more important than skills with women.
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:11 AM
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cool stuff my brother have you read any of the great pick-up artist, seduction gurus, out there, I mean the old ones like Neil Strauss and stuff? this is a nice list to keep and review and review at all times! kudos again!
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:09 AM
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cool stuff
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:06 AM
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it's hard to generalize with proper data and stats lol, but one thing is for sure, and this is what Ross Jefferies teaches, it's more important your mental state, your beliefs about yourself and about women, your intent, your tone of voice, you overall confidence, one way to actually realize how true this shit is, when approaching tipsy vs sober, it's insane.
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:05 AM
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seems pretty low rate lol, holy shit, but have you studied some techniques? do you consider yourself moderately skilled with women? seems like you are just reinventing the wheel lol, holy shit but that's scary
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:03 AM
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holy shit this is cool, and doing some entrepreneurial work, awesome, entrepreneurs FTW!
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:01 AM
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humour, the single one think indeed, how you became like that? do you watch a lot of comedy?, read any books?
/r/seduction05/03/24 05:00 AM
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well I wouldn't do that if my college is a single unit building, or doing the same around the same faculty lol,
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:59 AM
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most men worldwide right now I bet are fearful of the approach.
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:58 AM
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they are cocky and funny
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:57 AM
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interesting sub hahaha
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:56 AM
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whoa this is so spot on; but I'd argue you can definitely fake till you make, or have the impression you have an interesting life even if you are short on money lol, adventurous lifestyle is better than nothing.
/r/seduction05/03/24 04:55 AM
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