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Question for RedPillAlphaFemale9/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:36 AM
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Question for RedPillAlphaFemale9/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 07:53 PM
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Do they somehow change reality? That's not a good example because fish are not human beings, and I'm not arguing that animals create their own reality (although it COULD be argued; I'm just not doing it and I don't feel like doing it because I don't know if I believe that and it doesn't have anything to do with what we've been discussing.) Imagine a vacant lot. Without human consciousness, it remains a vacant lot. If a human possesses the land, the person can create a house or any number of diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 05:51 AM
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Let me rephrase: Feminism still exists because of the MRA, PUA, TRP movements. Feminism will not be obsolete until men stop trying to rationalize misogyny and come up with laundry lists of reasons they believe they are "better" or, the more PC version, "different" than women. If you don't think women are as competent, then we will continue to prove you wrong until you literally have no other legs to stand on. You really don't have many now, but you get into groups and think your random anecdotes…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 12:45 AM
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feel free to attach whatever context you feel will make yourself sound right. You realize that's what you JUST finished doing, right? Its a waste of time because its almost always complete bullshit. I've never dated an older man, so it's not bullshit. It's bullshit for you, a stranger, to think you know more about my personal preferences in a lover than I do or what I find sexually attractive. Earlier you said you would not date 45 year old men and outright disqualify them when you were younger …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 09:44 PM
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I just realized that I've never looked at a study to show that men with better bodies, more friends/social status, more money, better educations, etc., are more desired. That's not hypergamy. It may be tangentially related to the concept, but it's not the same thing. Some nonsense about how all women branch swing from man to man at ANY time during their relationship, and that women always (yes, always, according to TRP) "marry up." This is what you can't prove. But you can't bridge the gap betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 05:26 PM
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Your perception that the causation of such events is to some supernatural occurrence (in this case some offshoot of telekinesis, apparently) is pretty fantastic. It's not a supernatural occurrence. It's an occurrence inside your own consciousness. Legitimate question: Do you use hallucinogens? No I have never. If reality is a constant, why is it different for everyone? Reality is not a situation experienced by everyone, therefore, we must influence our own reality. Before you argue this fact, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 05:07 PM
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You'll have to elucidate on what you felt was flame-worthy about my response.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 05:04 PM
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but the only way we alter reality to fit our expectations is via hamstering, to use the local term This is not true. I'll give you an example that I am pretty sure you will be able to tie to something that has happened in your own life. You think about someone that you haven't seen or talked to in a while, and then you randomly run into them or see them somewhere. This is an example of the power of your subconscious/conscious focus and how it shapes your reality. Since you don't practice this (f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 07:31 AM
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Our beliefs aren't aligned on this. From what I understand, you believe that you are being pragmatic adjusting your expectations to align more with what you believe to be your true experience. What I am saying is that your expectations create your true experience, and that you only experience heartbreak (for example, can substitute any other negative occurrence for that example) is because you have ultimately chosen that outcome through your conscious focus on it. You believe that reality alread…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 06:56 AM
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What's the purpose of life in your opinion? For most people, pursuing love and happiness in its various forms is the main objective...most actions are directly related to achieving one or the other (even if it's only a subconscious connection to the main objective). Just because people grow to adulthood doesn't mean their beliefs and desires are any more rooted in reality. It's not age as much as experience that I think makes people less susceptible to fairy tales and outlandish beliefs. It's th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 06:01 AM
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linked by imaginary notions like love or fate. You don't believe in love? They fall to magical thinking and completely disregard reality. We all crave to feel something so deeply it changes who we are. Feelings like that are intoxicating in their intensity, and when you're young, you don't know what you're guarding against until it's too late. I think most people are vulnerable to this in youth (and I'm talking younger than 18). I'd argue that those who seem more vulnerable than others desire th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:45 AM
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(taking the high road on this one) I won't tell. :) Many of them have tendencies for behaviors we wouldn't tolerate in other men. As women, we also tolerate a lot of shit from men we would not tolerate from other women. it is foolish to assume that most people are like you or share your ideas and beliefs Yes that's why I don't know why TRP is built on the idea that all women share the same ideas and beliefs and behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:40 AM
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you also have to learn to control how much you're willing to leave yourself open emotionally to another person. So true. I wish I had learned this when I was younger. A friend of mine (male friend) always chastises me for not trusting people; he thinks it's a weakness that I don't ever fully trust anyone. I think it's just being pragmatic. Unfortunately, vulnerability is a weakness. I see opening up completely as emotional gluttony. I used to think it was involuntary with some people. Do you dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:24 AM
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Yes...I just like to make sure to point out that not all women suck to TRP guys as frequently as possible. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:16 AM
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the only person you'll ever be able to trust and rely on 100% is yourself, I agree with this. It makes LTR's hard, but I still manage. An interesting contribution to the discussion. Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:04 AM
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Thanks for explaining it. How do you avoid developing feelings for any of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:02 AM
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The terms are set then? We each make a post on frame, what it is, how to use it, and how it helps you get women, and compare outcomes? Just send me a pm from your throwaway. Yes I accept this challenge, but I don't know when I'll have the post ready to go up. I'll pm you when mine goes live and just keep track of yours and then we'll compare the results a couple of days after they've gone up. I think it's probably not right to lay such a claim about the ECs without a name to drop I dropped two n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 03:31 AM
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Oh I plan to give your post my full attention that's why I wanted to wait until later. I don't want you to think I'm ignoring it. I do plan to respond. It'll probably be a few more hours before I can devote the time it will take to properly respond. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 12:28 AM
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I don't think a terper would attempt to date me long term, I mean, unless he's experimenting with the non-submissive type of woman TRP claims doesn't exist. Even then, probably wouldn't last for more than a month. IF the unlikely event did occur, I'd cut off contact cold without an explanation. Public shaming is not my speed. If I for some reason had to speak to him again, I'd tell him straight up to fuck off and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 10:14 PM
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I don't think a custody situation is ever going to be strictly fair, and I'm not deflecting. I have trouble thinking about it because is it actually best to fight for joint custody when that means my son would never have a real home - but have 2 homes half the time? It's not an easy decision either way. It's not black and white, and ultimately, it's only about what's best for the child in the end. I don't pretend to know it all. I don't know what would be best. Moreover, pretend that stay at hom…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 07:51 PM
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Real women have a daily 9-5 job. Lol. First you imply that Rachel McAdams is not a real woman, and then you imply that real women work 9-5. Classic. I listened to my mother on what what women find attractive well into my 20's. What does that have to do with my anecdote? Are you saying your mother knows more than me about what I find attractive? Or are you assuming I don't know what I find attractive and I'm just telling you that I don't and have never found old men attractive. Because it's hard …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 07:19 PM
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I'll get into more of your post shortly, but the existence of TBP and RPW is proof positive that not all women are the same. The two groups of women are diametrically opposed. There's no disputing that fact. A blue pill feminist and a red pill submissive are not two sides of the same coin..they are two sides of two different coins. If all women are the same, there would be only TBP or only RPW, not both. I want that to be its own discussion apart from everything else we are currently talking abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 07:02 PM
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Because it's none of your business who other people are having sex with assuming it's not you. No one should be fucking almost everyone they see. Are you the sex police?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 06:39 PM
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I'll have to create a throwaway if you're wanting me to post on TRP as if I support it. Somehow I think they might catch on that "AlphaFemale" is not a handle a hardcore TRPer would choose. Although I'm not sure what the point of me creating a post like that would be. I'm pointing out that a person like me who disagrees would get banned in a hot second. If I pretend to be a terper, I could prevent myself from being banned. Even to other TRPers? I can't speak for TRPers but extremists often have …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 06:06 PM
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The theories still need to be developed. You are right. They need to undergo significant changes, too. Though, why don't more people get flair if it's that easy? I don't post over there for obvious reasons, so I am not as well versed on how all aspects of that sub work. How long do you think it would take them to ban me? We could have a bet, and I could create a post and we could see which one of us is closer. Why don't the hardcore TRPers get endorsed? Because they sound nuts. Why don't the arr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 05:18 PM
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which you're even on right now, dedicated to TRPers responding to challenges to their philosophy. There is a small group of TRPers that are willing to engage in debate about the philosophy, and most of them aren't hard core pillers. They believe things like NAWALT and that some individual women don't fit into the paradigm. I've even see them say that there's not enough of a gray area in TRP. Lots of minor disagreements with the philosophy that make it easier for them to have reasoned debate with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 04:53 PM
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long term relationship with a quality boyfriend who cares about her orgasms. So not a red piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 04:38 PM
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If the theory isn't deep then why is it the case that we have to do those temp bans? Because a bunch of people spent time writing out anecdotes and then attaching pseudo-intellectual language to their 'findings,' and they think these ramblings have constituted a situation where no one should have to answer questions about TRP. They screech about the sidebar until every unproven premise is accepted as fact so they don't have to deal with actual challenges to their "philosophy." Why do we even hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 04:22 PM
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an attractive 21 year old in shape will have zero competition from an attractive 35 year old. You say this with so much certainty. I'm sure Rachel McAdams worries every day that every random somewhat fit 20 year old might steal her man right away because you know...all women are the same in value and their 'careers' don't influence their perceived value in society. Get real. Your whole comment was an anecdote, which is fine. That's how most of you develop these ideas about society. However, if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 04:14 PM
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Are you talking about temp bans in TRP or PPD? Because if you're talking about TRP, I am not disputing that subscribers THINK it has depth and thus parrot "read the sidebar" incessantly (to the point of being exceptionally obnoxious). I'm saying there's not actually depth there. Just a bunch of inane ramblings that TRPers insist are 'required' reading in order to discuss simple sociological concepts about sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 06:11 AM
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consensus of TRPers is that it is that deep of a theory. There is no depth to TRP. There are only mile long generalizations, anecdotal experience extrapolated to apply to the masses, environmental/social observations paraded around as biological imperatives, mostly fabricated field reports, and confirmation bias veiled as objective and insightful analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 05:08 AM
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You need to read the lurk some more. TRP is not nearly as deep as you all seem to think it is. You can pick up the basic premise of it in a few hours or less. It doesn't take months of reading and lurking to understand the very simple theory it's built on. We understand women No you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 04:25 AM
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yea I know plenty of masculine men who enjoy non submissive women so I don't believe that. Can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 04:17 AM
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*Do you think that in general women are sexually submissive ? I don't know what most women are, and I'm not just saying that. I tried to answer this question, and eventually gave up because I really don't know what the right answer is. *What do you think about female promiscuity? Is there anything inherently wrong about some women who choose to have casual sex? * No nothing wrong with it, BUT I will qualify that statement by saying that I think some people have promiscuous sex for the wrong reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 03:59 AM
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Women past age 30 tend to deteriorate in looks. This was a lot more true before makeup, hair, plastic surgery, and all of the other anti-aging inventions. Women also are most attracted to young, virile men. It is a complete TRP conspiracy to convince men that women want older men. This is not true. They use examples like "Look at Tom Cruise! Look at George Clooney!" When I could just as easy say, "Look at Jennifer Aniston! Look at Rachel McAdams (36)!" More accurate? Look at your uncles. Are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 03:16 AM
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You would probably not get primary custody, if we were totally fair. Do you think life is totally fair for women right now? Fidelity of your spouse has no bearing on what alimony is payed. Law doesn't matter to what I was saying. I wouldn't put up a fight against him getting alimony if he didn't cheat, and I WOULD if he did. That is me personally. That means mediation in the first case, and I would bury him in legal proceedings and paper work in the second. The law is completely inconsequential.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 02:53 AM
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Why will I only connect with a few people while other guys seemingly find connections with everyone? I didn't mean you specifically. I mean everyone. This is universal. Some people you just have more in common with and you will like better. Some people have special connections. I'm sure you know people you feel you connect with better (this girl you're dating for example) than some of the people you've gone on dates with in the past that you didn't click with. It's not you. It's just life. Why s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 02:49 AM
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You can't change your biology. This is such a cop out, and it doesn't help that it's always the same cop out with TRP. You are not beasts. You have the full use of your brain (presumably), so it doesn't matter that you want to have sex and "plant your seed" in as many holes as possible. You don't do it with everyone because you understand there are consequences to that action, i.e., you end up inadvertently creating children that you have no desire to care for and even will go so far as to disow…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 02:33 AM
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Are you ok? You're acting weird. I already explained why I was mixed up. I'm not going to keep talking about it. I was having more than one conversation and I thought you were talking about something else. It's not that big of a deal and I don't know why you would think I'm not "okay" about it. I'm fine. Let's move on. I have zero interest in watching a RAINN video. It's not a video. The stats haven't been discredited because they are stats from the justice department and the FBI. If you want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 06:28 PM
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At the end of the day, if I was to pin point a root cause of damage - its almost always a weak family. I personally think TRP contributes to the breakdown of the family structure, even though they act like they do the opposite. The reason for this is the desire to sex as many women as possible (connection is that sex results in children, and these men seem completely unconcerned with raising children...if anything, they attempt to absolve themselves of responsibilities to their CHILDREN by makin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 06:17 PM
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Truly damaged you're probably right, but I think people do carry around some remnants of past relationships. It doesn't always make them incapable of being fully present in their next relationship, but it's just part of the process. What do you think makes someone emotionally damaged?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 02:15 AM
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I assumed that was what you were talking about so it was my fault. It just seemed like the random stats you posted were more related to the discussion about the divorce stats, but I should've checked context. Regarding the RAINN stats, I'll watch that video if you read this page to see the sources used to compile the stats and the math used to come to that conclusion: https://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 01:48 AM
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Do you feel like you have control over the drive or do you feel like the drive dictates some/all of your actions? Do you have any desire to care for the offspring you create? Or do you just look for quantity of children with your genes not quality (of life that you can provide)?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 01:44 AM
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It's definitely not uncommon for women to make decisions like that after being hurt. The same way you guys gravitate towards TRP to attempt to protect yourself from getting hurt again, women do the same thing when they decide not to do things that have caused them pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 01:41 AM
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The first thing I would say to you is that you can't manipulate yourself into a long term, happy, stable, loving relationship, and if I make it seem like finding a great person and enjoying a happy LTR is an easy thing to do, I'm not doing you any favors because it's not easy. Some people are awesome. Some people suck, and it's hard to know the difference before you are in the trenches with them. I do think you can learn some good things from TRP: take good care of your body, have confidence, ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 01:14 AM
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you truly are a female that is incapable of understanding males. I am asking a question because I want to hear your answer. It has 0 to do with "understanding males." I'm asking you why because I want to hear your answer. If you want to be an ass about it, you can move along. This is how conversations happen. One person asks a question, the other answers. When I want to learn what you personally think or what TRP thinks, I ask questions. It doesn't mean I have no insight of my own. It is the inn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 10:03 PM
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Yes I obviously thought you were talking about the other statistic regarding divorce rates that WAS posted by the TRPer. Oh, and RAINN is completely bullshit. Lol. Yeah you know where they got their stats? The justice department and the FBI. Total bullshit. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:59 PM
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I'd say a 4 or less female within the reproductive window is rare enough to not be statistically significant, and there are fewer of them than 4 or less males. I don't really know how ratings are distributed (seems like not a universal thing), so I can't argue with it. How do you determine what level a girl is in attractiveness? Their facial aesthetics, their body composition, and their youth. LOLOL. Oh Man. If you think that's all it takes to be attractive, you're just not paying attention. Clo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:57 PM
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All of this is textbook RP alpha bad boy behavior. He's definitely more alpha than most TRPers would think considering I'm 100% blue pill, I agree. But seriously, he's a stay at home dad, which will probably change your perspective on the bad boy behavior. He's not like one of those alphas that bosses me around like I'm 5 though...he has some restraint at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:20 PM
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He can still be majority beta, but he has the alpha trait of being tall. He's not majority beta. He doesn't identify with any of this TRP crap or the lingo. He thinks most of it stems from insecurity and from bad experiences with previous girlfriends/fiances/wives or mothers (he's usually right). The beer bellies thing was so fucked up, I literally don't know how to respond. It's pretty much anything the majority of females find attractive. Or anything that the TRP community in some way wants to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:12 PM
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Ugh. The misogyny burns the eyes. Men are beings of rational self-interest Translation: Men are selfish assholes. Women are pretty fucking shitty for anything other than momentary fun Translation: I don't know how to communicate with women or how to get them to enjoy spending time around me. women stripped of their pussies, by and large, are boring and lame Translation: I am so one dimensional I have no interests in the women I fuck other than sex, but I attribute that to them because that makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:02 PM
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Of course you won't ever come out and say it. Because it's not true. Hell you might actually believe what you're saying. Ding ding ding. But this is how it looks to guys. Correction: this is how guys choose to look at it. It's actually pretty obvious, but I'm sure you will find a guy that buys into the narrative you're peddling. It's not at all obvious. There are SO many relationships that don't fit into the narrative you're pushing that your leaps in logic and unfounded conclusions are anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:51 PM
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So my husband is somewhat of an alpha by default. haha. He'll be interested to learn this. But seriously, I wouldn't call him a beta anyway...he just fully doesn't fit the narrative. Basically what you're saying is that anything that women find attractive is alpha, and by that definition, you can create any version of characteristics you want and classify anyone that fits into the narrative as alpha - whether they are or not. The whole thing is too subjective to actually be meaningful. Usually t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:49 PM
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I posted the link to the source. RAINN says 98%. Do you have more info than the RAINN organization on how many rapists go to jail? If so, let me know and I'll revise it. (That's sarcasm by the way). Edited.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:16 PM
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Why would I not want that arrangement as opposed to sitting on the sideline waiting for the girl to fuck as she pleases? It's totally up to you what type of relationship you want. Some girls don't want to commit. Some guys don't want to commit. Some girls are just screwing around, and some guys are just screwing around. If you want the type of girl that's only screwing around, then I could understand why you would adopt a disposition that would appeal to that kind of girl and would make you seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:16 PM
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When they've had enough alpha cock (and corresponding lack of commitment) they miraculously become born-again "good girls". I post something reasonable (woman places higher value on the mates she LTR), you take a wild leap in logic (she's had enough alpha cock and is a born again good girl!), and then you act like that's what I said. ....I mean....you know that's not actually what I said right? Nor is it even implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:13 PM
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imply that they have more sexual value by default, They don't have sexual value by default because the entirety of a woman's value is placed on her physical attractiveness to the opposite sex. Default would mean it just exists independent of anything the woman is/does, and that's not reality. Do you think an HB4 has default sexual value?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:11 PM
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Are you stupid? Yes he did. Why the hell would I post that 78% of women initiate divorce proceedings?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:03 PM
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Generally speaking, most men want to have plenty of sex with multiple attractive women. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:00 PM
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It doesn't matter how you personally define alpha or beta. Of course it does. If I'm misdefining it, it's because TRP doesn't define it well. I'm not parroting my definition and claiming it's the right one. I'm saying it because that's how TRP makes it sound. I know you act like alpha is a physical trait, but it's not. When I observe tall, attractive men around me, they are rarely 'alpha' in behavior. This is crazy. So tall men are just automatically a little alpha even if they act nothing like …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:59 PM
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Wonderful insight, Actually it is. You choose to attach your negative bullshit assumptions, radical, unfounded conclusions, and mental gymnastics to it so that it sounds however you want it to. Believe what you want. Not my job to convince any of you of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:56 PM
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I guess you think your fellow TRPers are making up numbers then, because they're the ones that posted the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:54 PM
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See I don't rate alpha and beta on level of physical attractiveness in the slightest. Beta is a personality to me, doesn't have to do with physical. I do not think alpha is interchangeable with physical attractiveness is what I'm saying, and regardless of ideology, physical attractiveness dictates the majority of sexual attraction, even for many women. Do you think all good looking men are alpha? It's not hypergamy because they ltr the betas they have sex with as well. That's the disconnect betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:24 PM
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I wouldn't really say he's a good person necessarily (I mean maybe if he's Alpha lite or something)...TRP defines an alpha as essentially someone who demands everything and gives relatively nothing. Not LTR material. There's also another layer to the discussion about women and why you observe them becoming attached to alphas they have sex with. Women a lot of times form strong attachments to the men they sleep with, so it's logical that there are more women vying for men that have a lot of sex b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:07 PM
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You're choosing to look at it that way. In my opinion, they only marry them because they think they can't find a better man. Better man = BB even by TRP definitions. The Alpha is supposedly buff and dominant..those are his positive qualities. Betas are actually decent humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:57 PM
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A crime that is taken so seriously 98% of rapists never see a day in jail. Sounds super important.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:48 PM
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Understandable that you notice them. But I think the conclusions you draw follow some premises that are not true in a lot of cases, and sometimes there are perfectly reasonsble explanations for the behavior that don't involve thinking women are just hypergamous or scummy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:48 PM
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Women give a list of qualities outside of the physical when asked that question because most of them aren't looking for a quick fuck like men are. If you're looking for an LTR, do you not have more qualities in mind than how they look on a 10 point scale? You're conflating two different things. If women are just people with the same value as everyone else, shouldn't they have similar standards to men? This question is totally bizarre. Are you disputing that women are people with the same value a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:42 PM
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The BB is the more desirable mate. Does AF/BB say that somewhere and I missed it? I get that you think it's some sort of compliment to get a girl for a night, but it's not. It just means you're a throwaway fuck and pretty undesirable if that's all you get. I don't know how else to say it so you understand that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:29 PM
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Even if I explained it to you it probably wouldn't do anything to further your understanding. Yeah I get that. It's why we're still sitting here talking about women as if you know how they think better than I do. Silly I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:27 PM
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They will still try their best to lock down an alpha if they can, it's in their nature. This is not true. I know you're convinced it's true, but it's just simply not. Betas are the more desirable long term partners; that's why women marry them. You're taking a few situations where a woman fell in love with an alpha and became unable to untether when she was ready to make a life decision. Most of those women are miserable in their marriages too if they are unfortunate enough to LTR one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:26 PM
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My implication is that traditional RPWs or women that don't provide anything financially are more likely to be reliant on men to provide for them and thus turn to another provider when the well runs dry on the first. If you need money and your partner provides all your money, what are you going to be forced to do when there's no more money? Get the money for yourself (if she's lazy forget it) or find another provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:22 PM
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Why is sex so important though? It's just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:20 PM
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https://www.rainn.org/statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:18 PM
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So really TRP's conclusions apply to an even smaller percentage of women than previously thought. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:17 PM
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So you're not talking about women. You're just talking about "hot girls" however you subjectively define that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:14 PM
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Every 107 seconds another American is sexually assaulted. Seems uncommon, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:51 PM
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I understand. Before I became a parent, I would never have thought about it either. I can tell you that you will never make a more important choice than the other half of who parents your children. There is not a single decision you will make that is more important in your whole life, and I can actually understand why TRP says don't marry a slut because I would have the same advice for a woman except it would be "Don't marry an alpha." The reason is that you have as much chance that an alpha wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:48 PM
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She should be so eager to please me that she shouldn't have any second thoughts about it. That's an unrealistic expectation in an LTR. LTRs aren't all about you or your pleasure. If you want a quick fuck I can see you having that standard, but if you're looking for someone to LTR? Well you're doing that with another human being with a full spectrum of thoughts, feelings, and experiences so you're going to have to understand that you're not the only important one in the equation. I don't even kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:44 PM
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What kind of sex do women want? Well I can't speak for all women, but from the women I know and myself, the kind that is passionate, hot, and results in an orgasm for the woman and not just the man. I've never heard a woman say, "Man I can't wait to try [strange sexual act]!" I am fully aware that some women love that kind of stuff and more power to them. I am just saying that women in my personal experience are more vanilla than men seem to be in what they actually enjoy doing sexually. Basical…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:42 PM
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Everyone knows that it is the exception but he talks about the normal way and no matter how good your rape argument is it doesn't even scrape the surface of his point. Talking in absolutes has been known to derail an argument. I didn't even touch the fact that only women that are considered HB8 and above have full sexual "power" as TRP defines it. What about all women HB7 and below? Do you think they get to walk and have sex with any guy they choose? That's what I mean when I say I don't fully a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:38 PM
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The fact is 72% of women file for divorce I know what you're saying, but the way you worded this is technically incorrect. 72% of the 50+% of women that are in relationships that divorce file, not 72% of women total. So more than half of women do not file for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:36 PM
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What number of people can a girl have sex with before she becomes a slut? Also, is it more about attitude than actual partner count?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:35 PM
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Why does it always seem like the obscure sexual act she performed and hated with "The Alpha" always becomes extraordinarily important to the next guy? Probably he wouldn't even care if she did or didn't do it if he didn't know she did it with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:33 PM
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Yeah see I'm sitting here thinking, Jesus all those ONS's would be more work than just sustaining one LTR. But then men think they need like 50 sexual partners to even be a junior Alpha so...that's part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:31 PM
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And now you have a guy who didn't have wild crazy sex during his teens and twenties but ends up with a woman who did, and who thinks that if he didn't get it out of his system it isn't her problem. There's a lot of assumptions that all men in an LTR are unsatisfied sexually. Why is that just an assumed fact? Don't you see how the guy may take an offense to that? Yes I do. But can you not also see that doing something and not liking it would make you not want to do it again? The point is not that…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:30 PM
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Then pick some other act you did but don't anymore for whatever reason. There's nothing for me. Also, I have a question, how do men know she did anal or whatever sexual act with someone else and wouldn't do it with him? Does the woman volunteer that information or is it just assumed if she was with someone deemed to be an 'alpha?' Yeah if you got to go nowhere then that would be different but wouldn't that be more along the lines of she refuses to even give you an orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:28 PM
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It would be hard to be a fully involved parent if you're splitting time with a person you don't live with..how would you make sure you had enough time with your kids if you don't LTR/marry the person that gives birth to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:25 PM
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What is the difference between ONS and LTR material? I haven't had a ONS, but there are people I have been in less serious relationships in the past so I'll use that as my point of comparison. For just sex or a FWB situation, you're not looking at their character, who they are, how they fit with you, what type of father figure they are going to be, their ambitions, their aspirations, etc. You're just there for the fun, which is great for a time. But I'm saying that the ones that the women think …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:21 PM
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You are just attempting to introduce an emotional context to the debate for the sake of removing rational conclusions. Actually, I'm attempting to illustrate that women are not the gatekeepers of sex always. It's a simple fact. Accept it or don't. I don't care. But stating it is not a deflection. If you don't want to hear about rape, there's a simple solution. Stop talking in absolutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:13 PM
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Red pill men don't give a fuck about the intent behind it. That's because Red Pill men think women aren't human beings capable of making personal choices. If a man decided he didn't want to do a specific sexual act even if he did it before with someone else, would you think it was reasonable to insist he always perform that sexual act or he's not LTR material?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:02 PM
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That definition can mean so many different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:18 AM
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As far as Paris though, if you said to me (theoretically), hey I'd rather go somewhere else because I've been there 800 times before and it's just boring to me now, I'd understand. Unless the place had some special sentimental value, why would I want to go somewhere you were going to be bored the whole time?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:17 AM
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Doesn't it require a lot of effort to get a bunch of different women to sleep with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:08 AM
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although it's true that doing the crazy all the time eventually turns it mundane, Precisely. You took the line out of context. No I'm not. That example I gave you is actually a pretty good illustration of exactly why the "she had anal with her ex! She's beta blocking me from it!" reasoning is flawed. Actually, she probably didn't enjoy it and doesn't want to have another negative experience. If she enjoyed it, WHY wouldn't she do it with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:49 AM
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I think the far more likely situation is that they both do a good amount of damage to each other. This is probably true for most relationships when you think about it. even deriving pleasure from it (precisely because it hurts the cheated man) That is seriously awful. How can you avoid being with a person like that? I wonder if there's a way to figure out they are like that. This is really fucked up You are right, that is really fucked up. That actually turns my stomach to think about it, but pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:45 AM
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One of the STRONGEST cards a man has in a relationship to keep things going, is the ability to walk away. Well yeah, but marriage doesn't prevent him from doing that, as the current divorce rate demonstrates. The threat of being able to leave really does help to keep things in shape, This is true from a woman's perspective as well. Your man will never be on better behavior than before you're married. That's a fact. Think he's going to shape up after marriage? Girl please. Grab yourself a bottle …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:41 AM
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And also, what I was saying is that the LTR is more desirable from a woman's perspective. As in, the male she is willing to LTR is seen as better in her mind than the man she will just throwaway fuck. I don't think you fully understood what I was saying. I was saying why do you want to be categorized as the lesser in her mind. I wasn't even talking about his desires, but he then said he did want an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:35 AM
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You're just being abrasive about it. I understand what you're saying - you think LTR's are not more desirable for males (even though it depends on the male..the dude I was talking to actually DID think the LTR was more desirable and was looking for one so I don't know why you're arguing that in the first place). I don't think it comes from a place of solipsism..I think it is what MOST people go for not just women. Eventually men settle down (the majority of them do). It's not just a woman thing.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:33 AM
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Yes to virgins. No to everything else. Virgins get an A+ from me, and I'll leave it right there. :) I'm kinda poking it because the "I need to figure out what I like" always feels amusing to me. It's like if you watched a certain type of porn, like BDSM for instance, and you watched it but you were like..nahh not for me, and then because you watched it once, everyone assumed from that point forward you HAD to watch BDSM porn anytime your partner wanted to (even though you state emphatically that…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:29 AM
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OH you're still in college. I get it. Yeah I remember. Although I LTR'd my husband while I was still in college. "shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars" I love that quote. Questionable move using it for TRPers though lol. Most people in the sub can do far less damage than the other groups I mentioned. I think a lot of them do considerable damage to the women they're with. I've seen sluts disparage men for not being "on their level". Probably this is an act. Unless the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:22 AM
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Companionship, friendship, love, partnership, sex (obviously), children (if he wants them), family, someone to share your life with. Also: challenges, problems, arguments, etc. Overall I weigh the pros and cons for myself, and it's worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:17 AM
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Dude I am having nice conversations with others that don't have all this hostility. I'll put you on hold til tomorrow when I'm irritated and being bitchy again if you're going to come at me with the rudeness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:15 AM
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My marriage almost made it to 6. I'm not implying you're about to cheat, just that if you're still happily married there is more to it than having gone into the relationship with your eyes wide-open (obviously). Well that's awful and I'm sorry you had to deal with the cheating. That is the worst thing. I worry about it, like I think most people do, but at the end of the day, what can you do? Shut yourself away and never be around anyone? I'm too codependent to make that choice lol. My husband al…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:13 AM
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How do you keep your plates from wanting an LTR with you? TRP is really quite concerning simply because it is so focused on putting all women into a category (a very negative category) and just not allowing them any wiggle room at all to not adhere to it. From a female's perspective, it's as if they are taking the worst possible representation of femininity and lifting that up as if it's a literal roadmap to understanding every woman on earth. It's endlessly frustrating. I definitely like certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:03 AM
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Maybe if you'd quit calling women sluts, they wouldn't be so focused on getting into an LTR. Ever think of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:50 AM
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Why couldn't you partner up with a 24 year old? I was already married when I was 24.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:49 AM
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I do not think feminism really focuses on men's issues as much as it should, so I am not a feminist. Feminists talk about a lot of men's issues. It's just not the ones that the MRAs typically talk about. Men get a lot of flack for stepping outside their traditional gender roles, too, and feminism speaks against that. Feminism is female focused, but to truly be an egalitarian, I think you have to understand that historically things were not equal and you can't treat it like everything is equal be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:46 AM
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What kind of relationships do you have if you don't have LTRs or plates? Do you do ONS's only or is it more of a friends with benefits type situation? Life advice on other things I can get elsewhere. Right, but do you ever see the problems with TRP? Do you think women are inferior to men by default or do you believe in a lot of the woman hating that goes on? Because if you're just into the self improvement type of angle, I can see why it's beneficial. But it's when you get into the infantilizing…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:44 AM
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Well yeah I understand what you're going through because I really think it's human nature to try to protect yourself after you get really good and wrecked by something. But if some guy hurt me (true story! 2 guys hurt me pretty brutally before I met my husband) and then I just wrote all men off, I wouldn't be where I am today. I am sure that you and I have different goals in life and I'm not implying they're the same, but do you ever wonder if she's preventing you from really experiencing your l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:41 AM
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Lol dear God. I'm just asking you if there's anything gross in it. If I'm going to read a bio of the movie before I watch it, it's going to ruin it. I'll look at the parental guide.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:38 AM
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I'm just pointing out that you like bigger. I do like taller. I admit it. I have always been like that, too, which is why I'm owning it. Not that he ever would (probably), but physically dominating you wouldn't be very hard. I understand how you're thinking about it, but it's just laughable to think about him doing that. He wouldn't. He knows he'd do it one time and that's it. When you look at the dominatrixes, they don't tend to look like lifters or otherwise strong women. Ok this makes more se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:37 AM
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What constitutes a slut? I know most TBPers (myself included) agree that TRP has several valid points, but it's the misogyny that's the problem. If you can be a better man from TRP, then it's good, but if you're manipulating people and doing "dread game" all the time, and cheating and the likes then what is that really doing for you as a person? Also, TRP can be pretty singularly focused. Why is sex the ONLY important thing about relationships with women? I know it's a sexual strategy, but do yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:33 AM
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I'm egalitarian and would not be a feminist. In my opinion, you are a feminist because I think egalitarianism and feminism are interchangeable concepts - societal stigmas aside. What's the fundamental truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:28 AM
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Yeah he's hot obviously :), but I was meaning more along the lines of - is there anything really fucked up in that movie I don't want to see? Like in Pulp Fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:27 AM
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Liking taller means liking bigger, it's just a different kind of bigger. Yes it's not cognitive dissonance. Do you not think I know that taller is bigger than me? If I didn't want you to know it, I would deny it. I'm giving you height for me personally. That is a thing for me. And I am short. I like it. But I don't like bulk. It's just not my personal thing. It signifies more dominance. My husband is a foot taller than me, and I am the more dominant of the two of us. I mean weaker than the man b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:26 AM
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My mother called those kids her "grandkids". That's really sad. :( I can see why that would make it hard to trust anyone moving forward. Hopefully someone will be worth it for you though or you are happy with the way you are living life now. Now everything makes sense. Well it explains that specific woman anyway. We all do that though at some point - pick someone shitty. I think our minds just naturally gravitate towards anything that can force that kind of hurt to go away and to not come back (…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:23 AM
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So what do you believe TRP is right about regarding women? You've talked a lot about body but not face. Is body or face more important?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:19 AM
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I'm just saying why can't you think women are equal (be a feminist) and still get what you want out of the sexual marketplace? Is that possible? If so, why would you choose the ideology that is known for woman hating?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:14 AM
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but as a whole I think straight men are the least likely to prefer a bigger person to dominate them. I don't prefer it either, and I'm a small woman. I like tall guys, that is true, but they don't need to be huge and intimidating. A lot of straight men seem to be into getting dominated by weaker women though, so there's that. Why do you think the women are weaker? Brad Pitt from Fight Club is the obvious example. Thanks I'll watch it. Hopefully the dude movies aren't totally gross. I remember wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:12 AM
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Well from my perspective, as a woman, what can I do if my husband leaves me? He's not going to probably, but if he did, how would I have control over that? I wouldn't want to be completely written off as damaged because of it (although I probably wouldn't date because I don't want some strange dude around my child). That's why I don't understand the hate for single mothers, and then I hear stories like yours and I'm like ok that makes sense, BUT I will say that if the woman could provide for her…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:08 AM
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Different things for different men. So why do you think it's the same for all women? Like he can't be short guy, poor guy, guy of [insert race] descent, blahblahblah. When I was dating, I did the height thing, not the poor thing, not the race thing. I got married young-ish though, 23, so I didn't date for very long. On the other hand, men will focus on what they want separately. Maybe but if someone comes in that has the full package, aren't you going to dump the one that only has a few things a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:04 AM
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I don't want to have sex with him, that'd be scary - dude's huge. It's actually a scary thought for me as well. Dude looks like he could break me in half. Some women are turned on by that, but it kind of freaks me out. How do you determine whether someone is an alpha? What's a good movie that has what you would consider a top tier alpha in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:58 AM
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But which type of people shouldn't get married? So many types. Not really into commitment? Step away from marriage. Don't want to be in a monogamous relationship or thinking of cheating? Hey! Don't get married! Not sure whether you can stand being around this person long term? Definitely do not get married. Haven't spent a night with the person before? Yeah I say don't do it. I know it's not traditional but living together gives you a great idea of whether you can stand the person long enough to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:52 AM
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So what does a woman need to do to get a man to commit? I think women are more likely to completely overlook pretty minor imperfections though so that's why it's good that men are seen as a whole package.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:44 AM
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Well that sucks. None of mine ever mentioned their sex life, and I'm better off for it I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:43 AM
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I think it's the obsession with alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:40 AM
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You mean, unless it's to each other right? :) Lol yes exactly. Then it seems you're pretty safe. I hope you're better than the other bloopers who resort to gay jokes towards terpers. What jokes? Have you heard of hamstering? I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:36 AM
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So basically for women - be hot. Be THE objectively hottest. That's really it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:35 AM
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Why do you have to be a misogynist terper to navigate the sexual marketplace?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:35 AM
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Do old men still have high sex drives?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:33 AM
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Even though it's across cultures? Like not just here, but in Denmark and France as well? Well Ive never heard that before (learning things every day it seems), but if it is true, I mean don't get married I guess, men? I don't know what to say about it. I don't know women that would walk away from their marriage so to me it's weird and doesn't represent my reality. I don't know men that would walk away either though. In my personal world, divorce is uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:33 AM
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Call it insecure, but as an addict, I know what it feels like to need more of something to get the same euphoria you've had before. But if she hasn't had any, how do you know you will A. be sexually compatible and B. that she has enough of a sex drive to satisfy you? Also, it seems like over time you would need more of anyone/anything to satisfy yourself once you become "immune" to its effects. I don't think there's really a way to prevent it. And why do you think women don't worry about this? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:29 AM
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Ah, it's somehow mostly the man's fault. Unless she's in a solo relationship, then yeah, both parties are involved in the relationship. I've never encountered a relationship that fell apart in which both parties weren't at least partially involved in what was going on. Lesbian couples divorce at twice the rate of gay couples. Since gay marriage is so new, I think it's an incomplete data set and doesn't provide much value.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:26 AM
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I don't know..you're not doing it yet. You might feel differently when/if you can see her revulsion. I know men do it, but will it really make you happy? I guess you'll find out at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:24 AM
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I'm not saying you don't care as in you would fuck anything. I'm saying don't care as in you have more options than the one girl, so what would make that one girl special or stand out if she actually did give it up? I think this is what a lot of girls struggle with in the whole dating "game" actually. They don't want to be a slut, but they want a guy to commit. But they don't want to give it up right away, but they don't want him to lose interest. They don't want him to think she's not intereste…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:22 AM
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When you say things like "women always determine when sex happens" you set yourself up for rape to get brought into the discussion. Whether you would like to admit it or not, it does happen frequently to women so word your thoughts accordingly, e.g., most of the time women decide when sex happens, if you want to avoid it getting brought into discussion. Wtf is that supposed to mean? Are there not enough midgets involved for you? What? Lol what what? Midgets? Color me confused. I explained it I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:18 AM
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72% of all divorces are brought by wives. No shit. You think wives just ran away from their husbands because they felt like it? No. How many of those wives were cheated on or abused? They're still giving orgasms to an old man to get money. That makes them whores. I don't get why that would turn you on because intellectually you know they are repulsed, so it would make it hard to enjoy sex I would think. I know it would for ME but I'm a female so of course, discard my opinion without a second tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:14 AM
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Which example?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:13 AM
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it seems a lot of what you guys do is mock TRP for wanting to bang "HB9s" Oh it's a lot more than that. Refer to the sidebar, re: TRP totes don't misogyny. So what gives you the impression TRP doesn't care who they have sex with? Because a lot of women are objectively hot. What makes one hot girl better than another hot girl? What the blithering hell is a hamplanet?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:11 AM
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No, divorce rates are through the roof because wives can simply say "I'm not happy anymore" and blow up the family. That's a very naive viewpoint. Husbands are involved in this as well. Do you think the Playboy bunnies fucking 85-year old Heff give a shit about his wrinkly dick? They're probably disgusted by it, actually, if you want to know the truth. They're doing it to further their career or to get money. They obviously have no intention of becoming a matriarch to the family I create? Jesus.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:05 AM
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From being on TRP, it doesn't seem like men really care who they have sex with. There's a really disconnected approach to sex that really reduces a woman's 'power' over sex. If you can get it anywhere, then what power does the woman have? If you want it from her and she gives it to you, does she lose that power? She does at least a little. And if she doesn't give it to you, you eventually lose interest and move on to someone you can fuck more easily. I don't see where all the power is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:00 AM
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There's the old feminist retort..."rape". Literally that made me laugh. YOU said that women always 100% of the time have the power over when sex happens. You are wrong. I was just pointing it out. In a civilized society, women are the gatekeepers of sex. If you would just add "most of the time" or something that alludes to you understanding that there are SOME cases in which we are not, then I wouldn't even mention anything else. Why can you terpers never do that? Just say MOST women instead of …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:57 AM
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having power over a powerful man puts you in a better situation than less powerful men. You've got to get him to commit, or your power is so limited as to be virtually useless. Yeah he wants sex, but he can get that from any number of different places. What makes getting it from you worthwhile? Especially when most men expect girls to give it up before the 3rd date nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:50 AM
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Trust me, power over relationships grants you just as much with women. Lots of women basically become servants once they get into an LTR -- that's not the kind of loyalty and devotion you can just buy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:46 AM
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With a 55% divorce rate in America, and 72% of those divorces brought by the wives, "doing sluts forever" is indeed my goal. Marriage is hard, but it's nice having someone to spend your life with. If you're not ready for it, don't do it. Too many people that don't belong being married get married, which is why divorce rates are through the roof. I'll buy them with my wealth in old age. I've never understood how men can get it up for that. Literally knowing she is repulsed by you but sticks aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:44 AM
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I was saying that if what you were saying is correct, it would mean that men have power over relationships and I don't know why you're rating sex over relationships as if it's more powerful for women to have power over sex. It's not. The balance is pretty equal even in your scenario, which I am saying I don't totally agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:42 AM
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Do you ever get the desire to have sex with only one woman and settle down with a family?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:41 AM
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So which perspective do you think is logical of the business examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:39 AM
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He usually has a metric fuck-ton of money. What if he doesn't? Holy hell that is awful. I'm sorry you had to go through that. I retract that. I was fully on your side until, "I wouldn't piss on a single mother to put her out if she was on fire." WHAT!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:38 AM
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Oh, did this individual hurt your feelings? Lol seriously? If it hurt my feelings every time someone on TRP was stupid, I would be really emotionally damaged from my interactions here. Idiocy is a hot commodity in the TRP community. You realize that I'm married to a stay at home dad, right asshole? I don't need you to explain to me that raising a kid and keeping a house is a job. What do you think about my husband doing that kind of work? Yeah, I can see I overestimated your intelligence, educat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:35 AM
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Sex does not happen unless a woman wants it to happen. Rape not a thing in your world? Chances are, 8 or 9 out of 10 would say yes. Most women don't want the kind of sex all you men seem to want. So even though that's what would probably happen, we wouldn't do it. You, however, would if you could. Can you imagine the prevalence of STDs if women were like men and just wanted to actually have sex with every attractive person we came across? My God. That thought is jarring. Women have the power ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:32 AM
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Maybe, but your fellow sisters seem to have settled on a "stereotype" man that they prefer to fuck. My sisters are fucking lots of men, actually. You are just choosing to only see the ones you want to see. Like I asked someone else, is your goal to fuck literally as many hot girls as possible? I assume from you saying you're not getting married and you'll be doing sluts forever that that is what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:26 AM
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No that's not the point. You're seeing a situation and creating conclusions based off your observations when you have incomplete information. I realize I am doing the same thing, but it's because I'm trying to illustrate to you an alternate (and more likely from what you've said) scenario. For example, did the woman actually want to give a blow job? Maybe you don't care, but most people actually want partners who enjoy sexual encounters with them. I know it's kind of a pre-requisite for me (but …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:25 AM
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Those are the guys the hotter women are having sex with, yes. So you literally never have seen a hot woman with an unattractive guy. I find that hard to believe. I'll let the beta losers cuckold some other man's kids. Christ. Why do so many of you think this is going to happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:20 AM
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Ok I misunderstood what you were saying. Thanks for clarifying. How is that point you made relevant to the overall discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:19 AM
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Why would having sex with a lot of attractive women make you totally jaded from having sex with attracted women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:18 AM
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So I understand you can't speak for all men, but I want to know if men literally just want to have sex with as many attractive women as possible or if there is some sort of cut off? What is the goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:12 AM
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I think that's pretty disingenuous I had someone just today tell me I wanted to be infantilized like my dad treated me by my partner, so while the mock outrage is noted - save it for someone newer to PPD. Spend a little time over at RPW. I have had several enlightening conversations with RPW, actually. RP Theory does not advocate treating women like "infants". I totally disagree. What do you do for an infant? Provide for it. How do you treat an infant? Like it's incapable of taking care of itsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:06 AM
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TRP loves sluts. You have a very loose definition of love if that's what you think. They stick their penises in sluts and enjoy manipulating them. Not the same thing. stop being sluts. Shocking that you came to this conclusion. I'm so surprised that for a change you didn't tell the man to stop being a slut and fucking any girl that looks at him. Men are so foolish though, naturally, they can't stop themselves I assume. So the impetus is, quite rightly might I add, put on the woman. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:00 AM
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high smv When I say high SMV is subjective, I don't mean just the distribution of importance placed on those traits generally. I mean literally, some women don't need wealth so they're going to place more significance on other factors - confidence, looks, personality compatibility. Some women NEED money badly, they are going to put more focus on career/wealth status. Literally, two different women could rate the exact same man completely differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:56 AM
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Just can't believe something someone says when I see their actions say different. Yeah I wouldn't buy it either. I'm very distrustful though unless proven otherwise. In that situation it COULD mean that the person is just outgoing and/or still has some residual personality problems they may need to address. But again, no one would know except that woman whether she really changed or not. Just curious, why do you assume by default a girl wouldn't like doing it? You told me she said that, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:54 AM
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Do you think those are the only guys women are having sex with? (I'm really asking)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:49 AM
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From what I understand of the guys who do get angry, it sounds like it is cathartic or liberating. I think you're being generous with this explanation. I don't think I said that. Would you mind explaining what I said that gave you that impression? You said it's the person that the promiscuous person is having sex with that gets street cred, or you implied something like that. But you said women that have sex with a lot of women don't get recognition, and that gay men that have sex with a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:48 AM
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I mean what BPERS say about TRP. Well TRPers on Reddit are acting like assholes, so why are you surprised they are being called that? Side note: ever since I stopped paying for women's stuff and stopped showing interest in their lives I've gotten more action. Well I'm not going to argue with you. That's your experience. I don't desire a one night stand I would like an LTR. Then be LTR material not ONS material. Then this guy can just call her up one day claiming he's changed then pump and dump h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:43 AM
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High SMV is universally attractive to majority of women High "SMV" is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:38 AM
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I enjoyed your explanation of the altruist/utilitarian take on the situation. No. I'm saying the conclusions are different because they followed from different premises. Your "Differing perspective" used a premise which "Natural progression of thought" did not. But that's standard debate. In order to further debate, you add information to it. Have you had a debate that does not involve it? I could also do it without another premise (although it would not be as strong). Differing perspective (no …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:36 AM
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It's not wrong to care from a sociological point of view. If you're (general you) going to get angry and defensive about whatever it is, I don't see why you don't focus on something else. Other people's sex lives don't affect OP or any Red Piller unless the piller in question invites that information into their world and focuses on it. So a woman that gets a lot of women to have sex with her isn't revered the same way a man that gets a lot of women to have sex with him is revered? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:30 AM
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Women have made it clear that a certain type of guy is the preferred choice for casual sex. Have they? And which type would that be?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:27 AM
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they don't make decisions like that after spending years doing that stuff. Why don't they? I know you gave a reason after that but I don't really buy it. People change all the time and stop living certain lifestyles. Also, in my experience, women do not truly know what they want or don't want, just like men. I agree with this but for a different reason. I also think that if more people got really clear on what they wanted in a relationship, TRP would be even less relevant to the 'sexual marketpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:25 AM
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Women are the ones who want to fuck high SMV alphas I'm trying to point out that you consider them high SMV alphas BECAUSE they are having sex with desirable women, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:19 AM
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That's what I thought you meant. So then the question becomes, do you want women to just stop having sex with anyone (other than yourself I assume)? Because let's be honest, so many TRP men consider any guy that any attractive woman is having sex with an alpha so there's no point in acting like there's anyone women could have sex with that you'd approve of. It's almost like random sex with some desirable girl is a pre-requisite for alphadom in TRP. Not having sex? Beta. Having sex? (Is she hot? …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:17 AM
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being sexually adventurous The point of being sexually adventurous in younger years isn't necessarily what you're implying -- that these "alphas" have just the best sex ever and women can't resist doing any/all things they want by virtue of their dicks alone -- it's that you don't even know what you like until you figure it out. Once you figure out what you like/don't like, you quit doing things you don't like. It doesn't have to be more complicated than that. Also, people in their early 20's ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:04 AM
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What I'm trying to say is that women say they want a certain type of guy when they are ACTIVELY fucking the exact opposite. What if they're not? Why are all girls in this scenario having sex with an asshole? That is not real life. Then when we try to improve ourselves and learn how these other guys do it they get upset and say we're pigs. I doubt you lifting and gaining confidence is creating discord with girls you know. If you're getting called a pig, I mean what are you saying? You're clearly …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 03:59 AM
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Why do you care so much who other people are fucking? Focus on yourself, and the sex other people are having won't ruin your life. What social stigma are you talking about? Are you talking about the one where women are thought to be whores for having sex but men are made out like they're champs when they have the same amount or more sex? Because what the hell does that have to do with this? So girls fuck guys you consider your betters and therefore they're all "alpha" (oh the leaps in logic), an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 03:51 AM
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A utilitarian identifies as such because he/she has accepted certain premises (e.g. "an action is moral if it maximizes utility") which align with utilitarianism. Ditto for an altruist (e.g. "an action is moral if it helps someone else"). Yes you are talking about something different. By this logic, every belief that either debater has must be accepted as a premise to have an argument. I am just using those two specific modes of thought as examples. Let's have an altruist and a utilitarian debat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 03:34 AM
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even though she did all those things for the alpha guys she hooked up with in college. Why are TRPers so narcissistic? What if she was in a relationship with someone that hurt her (anyone..don't assign them a label) and she decided she wasn't going to have sex randomly anymore prior to meeting you/whoever? Literally like the person made a decision for their own life that had nothing to do with you. Do you not understand that people make decisions for themselves like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:59 AM
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What do you think an alpha is?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:52 AM
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Holy hellfire. No. You mean women have sex before they get married? With multiple partners? Stop it. That can't possibly be. That happening at all (always assumed with alphas only...LOL) MUST be proof that TRP is true! Because well, yeah! So, if you want a real answer, the whole premise and any subsequent conclusions are flawed because you assume that all women are the same which is false. Don't even try to NAWALT out of this one because it's the premise of the entire point you're making. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:45 AM
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No they are not different premises. I'm saying if you have a general premise accepted by two people with differing perspectives (utilitarian vs. altruist), they may have two different conclusions based solely on the different perspectives they use to form their logic. You have to be able to understand the construction of a premise before you attack its flaws. Why? How deep does your understanding need to be? Typically premises are accepted then logical or deductive reasoning is used to come to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:10 AM
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I think I must not understand the rules. I've seen BPers deleted for responding even when the OP asks BPers a question (they were deleted just for the flair alone). I've seen RPers responding to BP questions all the time, and I get what you're saying that you responded as if you were BP (and I don't disagree with what you said), but I am confused about what the actual rules are, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 10:12 PM
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I saw this cross posted to TBP and I would be past rage if someone treated my father that way. No. Just hell no to that bitch. Do I understand why HE personally is mad? Of course! Does that mean any other man should read his story and as an independent third party conclude that AWALT? No. That story is about one individual and she is CERTAINLY not representative of most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 10:02 PM
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I don't know it seems weird reporting for something like that, but almost every Ask BP thread has an RPer as the top comment when I pop in, and it's just on my nerves! But yes you are otherwise right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 09:58 PM
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Have sex with my husband as frequently as we both want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 09:55 PM
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Why are you responding to an Ask BP question? Can we get a mod in here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 09:54 PM
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My dad treated me like that when I was a child, but I'm not a child. I'm in my late 20's. When I say I want him to act like my father, I mean I want him to be a happy, laid back, compassionate, calm, wonderful person that is supportive and helps me through life. I don't mean I want him to infantilize me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 08:15 PM
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But generally doesn't advocate the stuff you were talking about, cheating, leaving, etc. There was a huge cheating thread that got cross posted to TBP where many of them talked about cheating and lots of them talked about doing it with prostitutes (hello! disease!). And actually a lot of them are talking about leaving their partners too for various reasons. That sub is fraught with unhappy men talking about their unhappy wives and their generally unhappy lives. There's an occasional success stor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 08:07 PM
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Amused mastery, stoicism, treat you like a child etc. This is not how my dad acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 08:04 PM
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I don't know why you would want to increase your testosterone and increase upper body muscle mass. Ugh. http://www.fitnessmagazine.com/workout/lose-weight/build-strength/benefits-strength-training/ Women don't bulk up unless they try to. Strength training is better for a variety of reasons. For some reason it simply escaped me that just like men want women to kind of act like their mothers, women want men to kind of act like their fathers. My father doesn't act anything like a TRP alpha, and I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 07:56 PM
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there's a married TRP sub, you should check it out sometime. I've seen it. It gets cross posted to TBP all the time, and it's much worse than regular TRP. I'm just talking about how it is right now. Well okay, except it's not like that for a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 07:45 PM
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When I talked to women about it they said "ew don't do that, you'll get too muscley". Imagine if you were a girl that started talking about lifting. We get that and much worse. My behavior was the culprit, it was the reason these women lost their attraction to me, it's the reason the sex dried up or got lamer. I think it's good to take responsibility for your role in your relationships instead of assuming it's the women always. And again, it's not as if ALL of TRP is wrong. Even a broken clock i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 07:42 PM
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I was just pointing out that the person that raises the child and the person that made them are increasingly not always the same person. Shouldn't they be though? Don't you think it's better for the child to be raised by their actual parents (assuming the parents are worthwhile humans)? Not neccesarily related to alpha behavior. I think it is related. I think "alphas" are too busy playing the field to commit to a family. Who wants a dad that treats their mother like shit? That cheats on their mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 07:23 PM
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I know quite a few fit men, and they all advocate lifting. You could've been given this advice in literally any fitness community. They even tell women to lift now instead of doing mindless cardio. the drive to get really good at them and why became clearer when I read TRP. It may have given you some confidence to do what you needed to do, but honestly, was IT (TRP) the actually catalyst for your success? Could you have done just as well by applying the principles without the BS?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 07:19 PM
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I think that is, literally, called being "submissive", lol. She is submitting to my desires, lol… So you think anyone that does something to please someone else is their submissive. TIL. Think of your favorite prominent leader who is a man (in this case) Why would you assume my favorite prominent leader would be an alpha? The leader that I respect the most and that I think is most effective is my father. He's not your typical brash alpha either. He's wicked smart and insanely compassionate to pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 07:15 PM
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No I know you had no way of knowing about my specific situation, but I just don't understand why it's your first assumption that he's raising someone else's child when in reality, the child is the spitting image of him and we were married before I got pregnant. He's not raising anyone else's child, and for that I am immensely grateful. This is one of those times when I thank my lucky stars that alpha behavior does nothing for me because I don't want my child to grow up wondering why his daddy ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 07:06 PM
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Role-playing or not, I only care that the passion is real. I'm just saying. Let's not write off EVERYTHING a woman says about herself because your observations of the (assumed) brief time you have with her are thought to be her being her "true self." What if she is just being the self that pleases you because she enjoys your company? That happens all the time. WTF makes you think that "dominant" = "obnoxious"? How do you define an alpha or dominant man? I'm least obnoxious when I'm being most do…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:48 PM
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And truly dominant women are rare. Much more rare than they self-report. I can't tell you the number of times I've been told by a woman that she's definitely the dominant one in a sexual relationship, but I will know almost instantly that she not, and our time in the bedroom always proves me correct, lol. sigh Men always assume that the person she is with them is who she "really is." So rarely do people show you who they really are, and I'm always amused when people think they know more about so…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:18 PM
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Ok speech has returned. Regarding your last sentence, let's start with the obvious - you realize that it takes sex to make children right? And what you're saying is that you honestly think I was married to my husband and screwing some other guy and that is whose child he's raising? I actually feel sorry for you that this is what you think about women. How extraordinarily sad for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:01 PM
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I really wish that were the case. Your wish has come true. Embracing my masculinity, LIFTING, focus on bettering myself, being demanding and strict with women, etc. Basic TRP stuff. All other than the being demanding and strict with women is regular self improvement stuff that you could find anywhere. We're talking about the person who you have sex with, not whoever you've managed to get to raise your children, which may or may not be the same person you made them with. Woooowwwwwwww. I'm speech…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:00 PM
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I know it's true for me and the other successful men I've spoken too. Do you think that maybe you guys are padding your experiences just a bit to ensure they closely match these TRP principles? Incidentally, to what do you attribute your success? Which traits/behaviors/actions have netted you these payoffs? you don't care "who they are" and neither do I. You don't have children do you? Yes I actually do care who they are because "who they are" shapes my offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 05:54 PM
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Your statement is just a blanket assumption. You have no idea whether it's true or not. You just say it because it supports your narrative and your pre-accepted belief structure regarding how males and females interact. I also never said I don't like some of the masculine traits in men, but I like people for who they are - not whether they adhere to every theoretical gender trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 05:47 PM
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You are right I have you confused with someone else. Let me go back and figure out where we were. :) Ok now I remember what we were talking about. I had you confused with that guy cheating on his girlfriend. Both your names start with R. My bad. Anyway, we live something that doesn't even remotely resemble what would be categorized an RP lifestyle, so I don't know what you mean by "maybe he thinks what we think." What do you mean? What do you think he thinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 05:39 PM
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From a previous comment: I often tell my subs that I give them the love they need not the love they want. Subs = submissives. I have a hard time believing that in that context you mistakenly used the abbreviation for submissive. What am I lying about? You said you were lying to your girlfiend about going out with your plates. Did we skip into an alternate universe where you don't remember what you said or....what's the actual point of asking that question?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 05:33 PM
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Y is the only one that works reliably. Again, this is not true. Maybe it is the only one that works reliably on the type of women that you WANT and for you personally (although I suspect it's through confirmation bias). Maybe you have a specific type. Maybe you are a dominant and you can only date submissives for that reason (I am just guessing here). If so that is understandable. But to say it is the only one that works reliably is just categorically false. Correlation /= causation. In this cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 05:29 PM
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How could you, you don't even know them. You told me they are subs - literally you used the word sub. That's all I need to know. there's nothing wrong with that no matter how much you want to shame me for it. When have I ever said there's anything wrong with you dating multiple women? Date 100 women. That's not the point. The thing you're doing wrong is LYING, not dating multiple women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 05:22 PM
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Chances are your husband is like that to some degree and you don't even realize it. This assumes that I'm like all of your women, and I'm not. I could explain to you all of the ways in which I am not, but it would not make a bit of difference to you so just trust me that I am not. I have no responsibility to any of the women in your life, you do. You have the awareness that you are doing something that is going to hurt your partner, and you continue to do it anyway. You are so naive you actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 05:13 PM
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I always think the faux concern about why I post or why I care is kind of hollow when it comes from people that are also posting here. Ignorance is fine, just don't try to present yourself as an expert. Cool deflection. I have been lied to in a relationship before, and I have seen the impact of lies and cheating in a relationship, therefore, I am an expert. You are lying and cheating on your girlfriend with your plates. I feel sorry for her that she believes your lies. I often tell my subs that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 05:03 PM
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if Y is true in my life, if I attribute my success to Y, if I utilize Y and get reliable and effective results, why would I care if it's "Truth"? Because Y isn't the only path to success, and Y also employs questionable and amoral practices to manipulate and hurt other people for personal gain. If it works to my end, it's "true"; if it doesn't, it's "worthless." Those are my standards. Then why do you need to talk about it with anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 04:59 PM
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That seems like a slight overreaction to losing an Internet debate, but hey, you do you. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 04:53 PM
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In my opinion, 'feminist' is a generalisation. Feminist is a term for people who hold specific beliefs. Are there deviations? Of course. That's why if you made blanket generalizations about ALL feminists, i.e., all feminists hate men; all feminists want women to have special privileges (common generalizations in TRP), then that would be incorrect. But if you say "feminists want equality for women" you would be making a logical conclusion based on the person's self identification with the ideolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 04:52 PM
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You realize your husband could think the exact same as us and just not be telling you right? I know it makes you feel better to think that, but it's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 04:47 PM
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Out of curiosity, what exactly is your goal here? To point out your cognitive dissonance and to discuss other people's posts in the subreddit. What is your goal posting here? Are you really concerned about my honor/inegrity? No but you are posting this on a public forum. YOU should be concerned about your own honor/integrity. I get that it's uncomfortable to be called out, but you volunteered this information. I didn't just find it out for no reason. If you don't want people to comment on your l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 04:45 PM
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Ok so you don't get the point I was making. I am saying that we can ALL say, "I have had X romantic experience, therefore Y is true." With that in mind, none of it can be used as a justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 04:29 PM
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Would you be okay with allowing him to have greater custody of the children and the house, given that he spent most of the time raising the children? I would not give him sole custody of my child, no, not even primary without a dispute. I would try to get as much time with my child as I possibly could. Moreover, would you willingly provide him with 50% of the net household income if you guys do split? Yes. Would you willingly provide that to him indefinitely? Yes probably. I wouldn't want my (th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 04:27 PM
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Says who? You? No Oprah. Yes me. Who else? This whole exchange is actually hilarious. You're conveniently leaving out the annoying little fact that there is considerable debate about what TRP or feminism even is. Just because some people debate the core principles doesn't mean there's no meaning attached to either one. That's asinine. I'm not conveniently leaving out anything. You are conveniently choosing to ignore that there are commonly held beliefs associated with BOTH ideologies, and if som…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 04:01 AM
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You realize my husband had me as a girlfriend right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 03:27 AM
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Yes, I know you generalize Tip: if I say I ascribe to a set of beliefs, people associate me with those beliefs. That's not a generalization. Me: I'm a feminist. You: You are not associated with feminist beliefs. Me: Stellar logic, dude. The above is what you are saying. Do you see why that sounds stupid? A generalization would be if I said you, as a TRPer, must be a rapist because there are so many scenarios where TRPers make light of rape, make up ridiculous stories about rape, and also, simply…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 03:23 AM
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If you count people that don't understand what logic is I don't think you necessarily have to be completely ignorant of what logic is to make an illogical argument, but even that is not really what I'm talking about. I'm saying if you're debating someone (assuming they're reasonable), they may be using a form of logic that makes sense to them, even though it doesn't make sense to you. There are good and bad arguments, and I'm not refuting that there are absolutely illogical arguments. My point i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 03:18 AM
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The difference is, I've read some really insightful and well-thought-out posts as well (and this from someone for whom this isn't his first rodeo). Can you post an example? Also, pardon my dismissal of the idea that there could be a well thought out and reasoned form of TRP, but I don't believe there's any form of TRP that would be inoffensive. Otherwise, it wouldn't be TRP. It would be something else - you would have to name it something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 03:12 AM
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Nothing you said warranted a serious response. You're either being intentionally obtuse to further a ridiculous point or you're simply too stupid to get it. I can't do anything about either one, so I choose to just let you know that you are amusing me. Maybe you'll delete your posts. I've had people delete their posts before. Yeah so clearly I was right. You seriously don't get that it's different when you identify with a set of beliefs that people associate you with those beliefs. If I say to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 02:50 AM
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TRP: I have girlfriends, therefore, TRP is true. TBP: I have a husband, therefore, TRP is not true. Who's right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 02:23 AM
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The first section was more fun. I'll admit I did it because I knew it would be so easy to recreate it (I think 99% of them are made up so I thought it wouldn't take much). I've talked to you before and you're not a normal TRPer. What you don't realize is that that's what the vast majority of TRPers sound like to a TBPer. Whether you cloak it in more bullshit rationalizations or not, it is all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 02:19 AM
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This is where the term hamster comes from. I couldn't possibly agree more. Get back on the wheel. 'Splain it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 02:08 AM
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I am thoroughly entertained that you think A. TRP is nothing but a subreddit and B. that you think self-identifying as a certain type of person disassociates you from the beliefs of the thing YOU are CHOOSING to self-identify with. Good times. Really logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 02:05 AM
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All opinions are as proportionally valid as they are logically sound. This implies logic is a universal constant among individuals, and it isn't. If logic was universal, reasoned debate would not exist. A logical analysis of an argument can be performed with the argument itself as the reference material. This is one aspect of an argument, not the whole argument. Providing source material validates or reinforces a person's point. Logic is like basic math, it adheres to simple rules of soundness, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 02:03 AM
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The exercise was to create a brief overlay of Red Pill theory, not to recreate a post by a TRPer. I put that in the second section. Did you read that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 09:28 PM
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If they're so useless why do you generalize TRP? TRP is an ideology with specific tenets and beliefs, and people that SELF-IDENTIFY as TRP are associated with the ideology (as in, they choose to associate themselves with the beliefs). Not even remotely similar to generalizing an entire group of people for gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 09:22 PM
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it gives them what they want. This is not true, and if you actually believe this, I feel sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 08:43 PM
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Uh...what? What I wrote is exactly what you would read on TRP. If you disagree, you don't frequent the sub enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 08:41 PM
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Banning them serves no purpose. I do wish for a grand enlightenment where they all look at the penis between their legs and realize, "Hey! This thing doesn't ACTUALLY give me more inherent value than a person that has a vagina." And also realize that women aren't that predictable, generalizations are useless, and confirmation bias is why they see so much 'proof' of TRP in their daily lives. Some people are happily ignorant though, so I don't have much hope for it happening. Although there is som…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 07:11 PM
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I think it's great how much better you think you are than them, I'm sure they really appriciate [sic] your pity. The fucking irony. I literally can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 07:05 PM
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dont blame him for her discontempt or unhappiness. I am blaming him for lying and the doublespeak - saying he's open and communicative when he is clearly only open and communicative when it is beneficial for him (like any other liar). I'm not giving any opinion on her reasoning, as from a moral standpoint I think it's a pretty stupid thing to get upset about when you're dating a married man, BUT he doesn't have to lie just because she's too weak to deal with the ramifications of her choices. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 06:08 PM
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What's wrong with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:43 PM
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It's good you're ignoring the Political Correctness, but it comes off as sarcastic. Hey I tried. I'm getting a bunch of downvotes but not a lot of constructive criticism about what is actually wrong with my post, so I'm glad you actually said something. Which part came off as sarcastic? Also field reports are supposed to give good advice which you don't give much of. The advice is kind of self explanatory - implement TRP principles; get hot girls to sleep with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:43 PM
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he/she is likely doing something stupid. That's why I said it's like gambling. Are you referring to only stock trading or investment in general? I have a hard time believing that people are making horrible decisions when they invest in mutual funds, bonds, real estate, and savings accounts with a relatively high interest rate. If you're saying most investors that invest in the stock market barely beat inflation, I believe it. just by that virtue alone they tend to lose more. They also may just l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:00 PM
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All of that has 0 to do with him lying, but nice attempted deflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 03:49 PM
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I said a "few" rpers believed it. We disagree here. It's woven into the fabric of RP philosophy. It's hard for me, as an outsider, to actually grasp how one could be RP and not believe that women are inferior at X, Y, and Z because it's THAT entrenched in the philosophy. You do not have to say "women are inferior at business" (although I have read that exact statement many times) to imply the same. Almost everything I have read that is counted among TRP reading material alludes to the assumption…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 06:31 AM
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Eugenics is not a natural biological change. A true biological change occurs over centuries, not decades. However, a discussion on eugenics brings up another interesting question: if biology can be changed so much more easily, what does a biological predisposition actually mean for human behavior over the long term? I don't know why so many bpers do besides insecurity on their part. You don't understand that misogyny affects women in real life or you wouldn't think it's based on insecurity. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 06:00 AM
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Stock market data comparing women investors half a century ago to that of women investors today? Sure if you want to narrow the entire discussion to only that version of risk taking. Were there any female stock market investors in the 50's? The answer is yes I just Googled it, but I wouldn't expect there to be a lot of research on it. Do you know of any? I'm asking if you think there isn't some biological component to this that makes men more likely to take these risks now and in the near term. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 05:37 AM
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TRPers have a hard time discerning how to behave around women (seriously, I'm not just saying that to be rude), so they gravitate to TRP because it allows them to memorize a bunch of drivel which pads their ego, emboldens them with confidence, and then provides a set of principles/beliefs that will act as explanations of behavior in all situations they may encounter in real life (even if the explanations are just flat out wrong and don't explain the situation, there will always be a way to fit t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 05:23 AM
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Do you think it's completely due to social conditioning, or is there a significant biological factor? I tend to agree with another poster that said that the lines are really quite blurred. Is it biological or social that women are more likely to value security and take actions that are in alignment with securing that outcome? Social conditioning has certainly changed the game - I'm sure women take many more risks today than they did say in the 50's, so that's the reason I think it's mostly envir…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 05:04 AM
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aren't as overconfident as men. If you're arguing on the premise that all risks are created equal (they're not), then it's a foregone conclusion that men are overconfident (due to social conditioning) and will take more risks. What I'm trying to point out to you is that all risks are not created equal. I'm not sure if I've failed to articulate that or if we're just on different pages. If you're talking about SMART risk taking, which is what I would presume would be an important premise to the di…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:46 AM
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I removed some comments in threads directed at RPers because I happen to be an RPer myself and they were relevant to me. Understandable. It's just annoying how there's always an RPer responding to our questions and it seems like it's much less likely for it to get deleted than if the same thing happens in an RP thread. Maybe the BP threads just get less activity and don't get seen by the mods though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:21 AM
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I know it seems like I'm being intentionally dismissive of the question, but it is very vague. For example, is a woman more likely to take a 'risk' and waste money on an expensive pair of shoes? In my opinion, it's more likely for a woman to take that kind of risk. Is a man more likely to take a 'risk' and gamble away his life savings? Yeah I could see men being more likely to take that kind of risk. Even defining it as physical or financial leaves a whole spectrum of possibilities. Who is more …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:15 AM
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I assumed mods participated in the threads and that's how they found out about posts that did not abide by the rules. My bad. I only report posts when I find them offensive...I didn't know we were supposed to report posts that just violate the house rules. Will do in future.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:10 AM
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Still, without factoring justifications, do you not think men are more likely to take risks than women? What kind of risks?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:09 AM
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Then quit acting butt hurt that you didn't get a sweet response. No one is mad except you. Calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:00 AM
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Some men are risk averse. Some women are risk takers. Mind. Blown. I know OP. Collect yourself and begin again. I personally think risk taking is not a trait to revere unless it is accompanied by shrewd decision making and good sense. There's nothing admirable about taking big risks just for the sake of saying you're a 'risk taker' (in business). The best business people are the ones that take calculated risks that are likely to bring about a specific outcome. Also, where are the mods to delete …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 03:56 AM
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Dude, do you even STEM? Ok seriously though...your opinion is that all opinions are equally as valid as yours and no study or evidentiary support could make your opinion/point/hypothesis/theory more valid than someone who has no such evidentiary support? Preposterous even on its face. You have a point that scientific studies are not immediately necessary to disprove/support every point made about human behavior, but that's neither here nor there. If you're making an outlandish point that seems c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 03:25 AM
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NO. /s It's like when people respond to you when you say something absurd, you think they're going to talk to you really sweetly and say, hey random dude on the Internet, do you think it would be okay if you could understand that my relationship really exists like in real life and I don't very much like that you sit here and belittle people that live my lifestyle. Like that's not very nice. Seriously, what do you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 03:14 AM
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no girl is going to cheat on her boyfriend with someone "more alpha" unless she was already planning on cheating. I don't think a BPer would say that...I know I wouldn't. I stick away from saying no one would __________ because inevitably there is someone that WOULD. In this specific instance, a self-identified RPW would be pretty likely to do something like that I would think. Also, people could make a choice that to someone LOOKING FOR CONFIRMATION of a pre-existing belief could skew and manip…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 02:22 AM
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He's avoiding anything that could be unpleasant so I'd say it's pretty easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 02:06 AM
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On the other hand, who cares. It's your honor/integrity on the line, but I guess I'd be out of line assuming you care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 02:05 AM
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I manage it with openness and communication Ok. and lying to my girlfriend. Checks out. TRP approved. FYI. Being open, honest, and communicative requires that you be open, honest, and communicative (get this) EVEN when it's hard to do and EVEN when someone is going to be mad about the truth. If you're lying to your girlfriend because she doesn't approve of your other relationships, then you're like any other liar - truthful only when it's convenient for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 12:53 AM
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If you are in the presence of a large, attractive, muscular man, AKA very masculine guy, would you be frightened by him, and scared what he might do to you? Or does having him around make you feel more secure and comfortable? Depends on his energy. Is he happy? Angry? Sad? Withdrawn? Do I know him? Do I like/dislike him as a person? What type of environment are we in? Until you answer some/all of these questions I would have no idea how I would react.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 12:47 AM
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Did you realize that people are already in a relationship like this when you posted the question or did you think people were only going to respond in hypotheticals? I am happily married to a stay at home dad. His devotion to our son and the sacrifices he is willing to make to give him the best life possible are incredibly sexy and inspiring. So that answers all the questions. would you consider it? Yes. Strongly consider it? Yes. What if money were no object? Obviously yes. do you think it woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 12:39 AM
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So the other day, I was out with my buddies, and one of my friends (total beta) starts talking about this girl he's CLEARLY got a bad case of One-itis for, and I casually let him know that this girl has a thing for our other friend (alpha AF) and that he doesn't stand a chance. Being the beta that he is, he got pissed off at me and now we're not really speaking but I think I did the best thing for him because he was going to all these great lengths for the girl and it was just never going to hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 12:12 AM
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I apologize. Clearly I've misunderstood you and assigned beliefs to you that you don't have. I definitely agree that people should be able to live their lives however they please as long as they aren't hurting anyone. I actually don't know why I thought your beliefs were more in alignment with traditional RPW. A lot of what you've said is much more neutral. RP is what I have a problem with, not you if you're just trying to live your life in the way that feels best to you. At the end of the day, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 05:13 AM
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I do not think you are an idiot. I think you have a very jaded worldview that is clouding your judgment and has resulted in you stating several things that I think are extremely bizarre. would you mind explaining how you could not find physical strength valuable? Sure. I just look at it as a neutral trait. A human characteristic like having hair is a human characteristic. Sometimes hair keeps your head warm. Sometimes males that are particularly strong can do cool/interesting things or can do ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 01:35 AM
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If you do not value science, This is not what I said, therefore, the rest of your post is probably irrelevant. I said I do not take EVERYTHING that is commonly accepted in scientific communities as indisputable fact. (Pro tip: neither do they. If you read the guy's post, that's what he actually said in his first reply to me that it's very contentious and people are always challenging commonly held points of view.) I actually use my big brain to decide which things make sense in terms of logic, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 01:17 AM
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men tend to express more extreme traits, This is very vague. What is the measure of intelligence that you're using to determine that men express 'genius' intelligence more frequently and how many people were actually studied? Just for clarity, I don't believe something just because it's generally accepted in scientific communities (those have historically gone through dramatic shifts and made enough changes that it is understandable why so much is disputed in the scientific community). There is …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 04:05 PM
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You are just arbitrarily assigning value to physical strength because you feel like it. The fact that robots are taking over jobs that require male strength is indicative that it is not inherently valuable, but instead is something that you assign value to because you subjectively have determined it is relevant to you right now. I'm not sure why you're coming up with all these scenarios in which some men (because not all men are strong, fyi) could be of value because of one aspect that is more s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 03:52 PM
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Why do you think women are naturally turned off by contentious debate style? I think it's closer than you think. Are you saying it's even closer than I think? Because I was saying it was right around the corner and is virtually happening right now, as we speak. The person I was responding to was contending that it was not happening, which is preposterous as it's happening currently. In other words, there are more genius men and more idiot men. In my opinion, this could be completely fabricated a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 04:45 AM
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I'm not going to argue specifics in the first part of your post. Instead I'm going to make a general point that encompasses several points I would make if I was breaking this comment down. The fact that women are in STEM, have made discoveries, continue to prove traditional tropes about females in business/STEM/predominantly 'male' industries wrong, proves unequivocally that biologically women are not any less competent on a genetic, gender-based level than men are. That point in and of itself s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 03:01 AM
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The fact that it's impossible to verify is the fucking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 02:28 AM
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"I do not buy that the reason for this is that science is a "boys club."" Seriously, why would you disbelieve that a boy's club could exist in STEM? Makes no sense since you are well aware about the "boy's club" that is TRP. Also, just in case you were wondering about discoveries made by women. "If it's that scary for you to enter into a STEM field because you're a girl you do not deserve to be in science because if you are that capable and that passionate it wouldn't stop you." Ok....? Pretty s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 02:04 AM
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This is too sick to even rate a laugh at its absurdity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 01:41 AM
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Thank you for such a thoughtful reply. I have waited to respond to this because I wanted to dedicate my full attention to it. I definitely wasn't trying to be belittling or anything! Thank you for clarifying! I really didn't know if it was intentional or not, but I'm glad it wasn't. I thought I mentioned that in my post? You did mention it, but I think I just applied it to that one paragraph instead of the whole post. We advocate that women have standards when choosing men so that him treating h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 04:26 AM
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Yes, I am saying this. You are willfully ignorant if you think that is an appropriate way to approach women in business. Your mindset is not only damaging, but it is the reason that feminism, affirmative action, and all things you claim to loathe exist. I am stating that fact neutrally just so that you know. This is not me becoming 'emotional.' I don't care what you think. Fortunately, there are a lot of wonderful people in business that are very open and accepting, so I don't feel that I am ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:40 AM
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Do you think insulting someone outright is neutral? I mean, no you are not saying, you, AlphaFemale9, are inferior to me; you are not well suited to your job; and you are bad at leadership, but what you are saying to me is that if I met you in a business setting, you would automatically think less of me than you would if I was a male. You are saying that you view women like me as inferior to men like you, and even when I'm asking you what you think, it's hard to take that without biting back lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 02:08 AM
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1) So? 3) Re: Women weren't oppressed. Do you think women are oppressed now in the middle east? in the tech industry women get the job because they need to hit diversity quotas. You assuming that this is why they get the job is sexist, FYI. Also any savy business owner would hire a woman if she was better suited for the job. They don't know she is better because they are biased against her from the start. Bias prevents you from evaluating people accurately. No one is contending that business own…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 01:51 AM
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I'm going to list some quotes from your original comment, and I'm going to ask you honestly, if you think these are phrased in a way that would come off as condescending/insulting to a non RP woman? Overall, when you take the sum total of everything and average everything out: yes [women are inferior to men]. Like she says, the commander in chief--the leader of an army--is not a position for a woman. But I see more complaints about sexism and less female CEOs actually get shit done. Ask a vague …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 01:48 AM
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You got happy and thanked people when their views agreed with yours, but here comes me, not adding to a circlejerk, and you start emotionally phrasing your questions. This is a question for RPW, and you think I agree with their views? I'm seriously asking this because that is so far from the truth I have no idea how you could possibly have come to that conclusion. I cherry picked viewpoints from their posts that I agreed with instead of going line by line picking apart what I didn't (but I did v…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 11:50 PM
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Acting calm and logical in stressful situations, Not true for all men. Or even most men. Some men act this way. I know my dad does. But others don't. I have actually never met another man that was as calm during stressful situations as my dad because it's very rare for ANYONE male or female to be calm in stressful situations. objectively analyzing a situation (i.e. not letting your feelings get involved in how you analyze it) I disagree. Anger is an emotion. Pride can manifest as emotion, and me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 10:48 PM
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I am asking if, assuming they were equally qualified, would you vote for a woman? Even if you say yes, I think the answer is no based on what you've already said. The part about gang banging is the stupidest most repugnant stance I've seen from TRPers in some time. I assume you're not a woman. No, its just a fact he didn't even get two years straight of working out of here before she started having children (three in a row), when the job she was head hunted for was a serious career job in a smal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 10:06 PM
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Yeah you making sweeping generalizations about women in business, which you clearly have no experience with yourself, is actually trolling. Quit whining because your points are so absurd a 5th grader could dismantle the reasoning. If you don't think women are as good at business, then good. Don't get involved in business. We certainly don't need women like you mucking it up for the rest of us. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 08:42 PM
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The first link is editorializing about a study that the person doing the editorializing made and then is creating faux outrage about his findings. because anyone with half a brain can google "do women take less risks than men." It's not even under question. Heh. The fact that you A. accept that without question and B. think 'anyone with a brain' 'knows' that women take fewer risks than men is actually hilarious. And yes, it is under question because women aren't a homogenous group. None of them …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 03:35 PM
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Earning power is not a trait. I don't find women in general better or worse than men in business. Specific individuals may be better or worse but I don't think being a woman has an impact, just whether you're a competent individual. I agree with you. That hasn't got to do with anyone's competence, but with the customer's general perception that a girl will do an inferior job. So.....sexism. What was the shirt gate incident?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:13 AM
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Thank you for your admirable civility :) Thank you for giving me so much to think about! I have really enjoyed reading your nuanced viewpoints. They are much different than traditional RP ideology, so add another layer to the discussion. You're presuming that profit-oriented businesses would ignore competent women, i.e. ignore profit-making opportunities. This is not what I'm presuming at all. The presumption is that due to gender bias and general misguided, misogynistic beliefs which are still …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:02 AM
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You're not smart enough for me to care. Sorry. If I had at least something to work with, I might waste my time, but alas, that's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 08:35 AM
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Yeah, actually, no. Not really. Yes actually, definitely. I encourage you to update yourself on recent technological advancements in robotics. men will still be the more ambitious, aggressive, competetive gender. Weeeeee...unsubstantiated, baseless gender bias! What can I say to this to make you see that ambition is not gender based? Do I point out that environmental conditioning is what plays a role in the predominance of men in politics vs. women? Do I tell you that it is more socially accepta…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 08:28 AM
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Ok so I got out my response on the points I thought you were belittling on..now I'm going to try to be more neutral again and pull back on any attitude I was giving off in the last reply. I do enjoy talking to you, as I like hearing your perspective, but there are some things we're going to have to get straight about me personally to have constructive dialogue moving forward. but there should be a conscious effort to communicate in a supportive manner, Do you think men have an obligation to do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 08:11 AM
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Just going to hit the most salient points first, and then at the end may go back and add to what I've said first. From our interactions I can tell that the information that you have on feminism is wrong, I find this to be a very condescending remark. Care to explain? Instead of focusing on identity, consider the impact that changing would have on your relationships and happiness. This is a very short-sighted viewpoint, since I told you what I do, and it does not in any way, shape or form fit int…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 07:43 AM
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Women and men are different, which will be inferior depends on what you're "measuring" How are they different? What about women in business? Do you think they are good at business, in general? Do you think women are capable of making positive contributions to business? Do you think women SHOULD be in business at all? Feminazis on the other hand, I find them awful and take solace in the fact that they will not reproduce much What qualifies as a feminazi?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:21 AM
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Overall I like your wife's answers, except for a few. Is she a self-identified Red Pill Woman? Personal opinion is that the idea that "high-power" jobs are the only/best route to female "empowerment" pressures a lot of women onto paths to which they are ill-suited, and that ultimately causes them a lot of anxiety and unhappiness. I feel exactly the same about traditional female gender roles. On average, she finds them less respectable than men. Why? I am glad she qualified all of her thoughts wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:19 AM
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Your voice is welcome even though you're not an RPW. "Inferior" or "superior" in what respect are you talking about? I intended it to be a very vague question (really to see if people would answer it because it IS so vague and almost meaningless in the way I phrased it). If I was going to specify though, I mean do you believe that women should be treated differently in society than men? Do you believe they are emotional, sensitive, irrational, nurturing, and otherwise incapable of logic, rationa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:15 AM
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My overall view of RPW is that I like to think that one day I will find a man that I can 100% trust, that I can defer to and know that he will lead us in the right direction. Do you think this type of man would subscribe to a Red Pill viewpoint? I do think that women these days have been raised in such a way that the have traits that do make them inferior. Which traits? Same as a male, if she can do a good job then great. Nice! I think some of them try to hard to be masculine and it makes them l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:06 AM
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Mostly sensible views here. Thank you for responding to my questions. Although the out of touch train wreck comment I do disagree with...I just don't see it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:03 AM
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https://hbr.org/2013/02/do-women-take-as-many-risks-as/ I'm literally laughing reading this. This faux shock: "Only 18% of the stories involved women." is just priceless. Coming from someone published in the HBD, it's actually pretty jarring. 28% of all businesses are women owned, so the incidence of female risk taking he observed in his subjective study is 10% less than the actual percentage of businesses that are women-owned, which is a little less flabbergasting than simply saying "only 18% o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:44 AM
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What do you think about people who don't participate in traditional gender roles? Do you think they are in denial or do you believe they could be following what is best for them? I think that relationships in general work better if one of the partners is responsibly in charge/leading, and it's acknowledged and accepted by both. I don't believe it has to be the man in charge. There are submissive men out there who are happy being so, although there are probably very few. Unsurprisingly, I totally…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:34 AM
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Each sex has its strengths and weaknesses that are innate. Do you believe this is true for all people of each sex or do you believe there is variation in strengths/weaknesses based on the individual? If she manages to be good at it, then I don't really care if we have a female president or not. Would you vote for a woman? So long as they're not getting special treatment for being women, it doesn't really matter to me. A lot of people have mentioned special treatment, and I just like to point out…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:29 AM
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Thanks for linking me to those resources. I'm in the middle of the first one, the one you wrote, and my initial response to the portion regarding submitting, yielding, and stepping aside to allow your man to lead made me have an immediate and pretty strong negative reaction. I don't think this is the right choice for me. I believe that my opinion is just as valuable as my husband's, and I believe that I have the right to voice it. Do you think my mindset is simply wrong or do you think we are ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:18 AM
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I think feminism is damaging to society. Damaging in what way? I think sex is deeply intimate and not to be taken lightly. How does this relate to RPW? Do RPW believe this about sex, too, and do you believe this is what sets you apart from other women that are not RPW? Women are inferior in some areas, not in others. Do you believe there are exceptions? Are there areas traditionally seen as 'masculine' in which you think specific women could exceed a specific man's capabilities? Or do you believ…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 04:43 AM
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For the most part I think that top percentile intelligent men are smarter than the smartest women. What basis do you have for this belief? men are more capable and thus "superior" when it comes to survival needs, e.g. building the roads, ensuring safety, making sure basic needs are met. The reason that I have a problem with this is because we are coming to an age where robots will be doing the majority of traditional 'masculine' work that requires heavy lifting and bulk strength so those specifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 04:39 AM
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Overall, when you take the sum total of everything and average everything out: yes. Break it down. Which 'things' are men always better at than women? Like she says, the commander in chief--the leader of an army--is not a position for a woman. What exactly qualifies a man to be in charge of a military simply because he has a penis? If he has had no prior military experience, like 12 of our past presidents have not, then what qualifies him to preside over the military simply because he has male g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 04:29 AM
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I think the natural order is for women to gangbang / have multiple partners during their ovulation, and for the strongest sperm to win. Is this a joke? There have already been many. Would you vote for one? Fine - employers can get stung by women though, cousin of mine - really smart and was headhunted for a start up, since then shes has 3 babies on the trot. And you feel that since she was employed at one time that she owed her employer her entire life and to never change jobs? Because you are v…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 04:21 AM
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1). In certain areas yes. Which areas [are women inherently inferior than men]? 2). yes to a female president, no to Hilary Clinton. Cool. Glad you don't automatically reject a whole gender for the highest leadership role. 3). good for them, but they shouldn't receive special privileges or affirmative action hiring. In order to receive 'certain privileges,' they would have to be at the same level in the first place, which on a large scale is not the case. So I have a hard time with the dismissiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 04:15 AM
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Sensible stance. You must work in a STEM field.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 08:57 PM
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I can understand "I just don't care" I guess. I just think the whole mentality is disadvantageous to women because it promotes dehumanizing actual human beings for the purpose of sexual objectification and gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 08:44 PM
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My question has nothing to do with RP as a percentage of the population. What I'm asking is why you, a woman, think it is good for you to associate yourself with an ideology that so clearly breeds misogyny and despises women? I don't understand why that would be acceptable to you, which is why I'm asking you (loaded question or not) instead of just assuming cognitive dissonance and moving on with my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 08:07 PM
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Hey thanks for this comment! I've got to run soon but I created a new thread to discuss some of what we were talking about here. If you don't post there, I will come back and respond to this later.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 07:58 PM
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Do you think it creates a better environment for you, a woman, to subscribe to an ideology that breeds misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 07:49 PM
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I am not sure what you're going to say. As a woman, I would think seeing so much hatred of your sex would be pretty disturbing/appalling, but I could be wrong of course. Do you really want a man that hates women? Do you hate women? I really am asking. I don't really see how you're cool with those toxic beliefs if the answer to either or both questions is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 07:09 PM
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You can read the whole thing here, but the parts of that post I was talking about specifically are the highlight reels and the compilation of posts where men are blatantly talking about women as if they are subhuman. This is very common in TRP, too. That list was made months ago, and I know if I go on TRP today I could probably find at least 5 instances of out and out woman hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 06:52 PM
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Not to be obnoxious, but have you read the sticky on TBP?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 06:44 PM
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Do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 06:36 PM
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That's because they're steeped in hatred. TRP and RPW hate women for being women. NOT the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 06:23 PM
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Re: Why we seek out RPW information. I rarely go there. I know I'm not welcome. I see the threads in TBP and read the ones that are posted there. The point of BP is to mock the Red Pill. RPW is just an extension of that. I mean I'm sure you know that it comes off as very misogynistic, and instead of just raging on TRP and RPW all the time, BP chooses to satirize it instead. BP helped me go from pretty depressed and appalled reading TRP crap to laughing at the sheer absurdity of it. For people th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 06:19 PM
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I can see that, but I still think being made fun of is better than being outright hated like feminists/women are by most TRP and RPW.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 06:00 PM
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My point was it's very easy to say you were just playing after the fact. I can show you the thread. I was very obviously making a rude joke. Even if she did take me saying to pipe down as an attack, I fail to see where the rape and murder comment was warranted. It's like a cat nipping your finger and you bashing it in the head..bit of an overreaction even if she was offended by my joke don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 05:32 PM
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One of these things is not like the other. LOL ok. So I can't make a satirical remark about how she should pipe down since women don't have anything useful to say according to TRP but her saying "you're the type we'd like to rape and murder" is so like ahaha funny and above board. Are you an RPW too? pipe down since women don't have anything useful to say according to TRP "you're the type we'd like to rape and murder" One of these is not like the other. Can you spot which one it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 05:27 PM
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On our sub we discuss issues from our perspective and encourage women to live life so that it truly reflects how they want to live. Lots of the issues are disturbing to someone that has my perspective on life. You can't expect me to read those views, when they are so contrary to my own, and think, "Gee that sounds sensible." Like I said in my original post, people are free to do what they want, but RPW is not for me. I think its viewpoints on a woman's 'role' are damaging, also. Feminists are th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 05:21 PM
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Neither consented so it was, by definition, not consensual sex. Hence why I said it was murky.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 04:43 PM
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Last time I thought only someone themselves can make their own right choices....... That would be the point......... Most RPW want to make it for all women, when a lot of women DECIDE It is not the right choice for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 04:43 PM
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Yeah the woman on woman hate is even more jarring to me than the man on woman hate. I think it's because it signifies such deep self loathing that it gives me the creeps, and it's also kind of sad that RPW have such low opinions of themselves that they think women are not suitable for anything other than a submissive role as head cook, cleaner, and child rearer in the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 04:42 PM
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Both parties are too drunk to consent. Pretty murky. If you admit she was too drunk to consent, then how can she have consented? Even if the guy was also too drunk to consent, it doesn't negate the fact that she also didn't fully consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 04:32 PM
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No. 6. There are juxtaposing theories presented here that make it hard to know. If she's too drunk to know what she's doing, she's too drunk to consent. You say consensually and then paint a picture in the AM that speaks to a non-consensual relationship because she was too drunk to have her wits about her to make the decision. 7. Obviously not. Why would you even ask this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 08:44 AM
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1) Yes. 2) Yes. 3) Yes. 4) Yes. All felonies. All rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 08:41 AM
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First one that comes to mind is this one: "Women want to be ignored, manipulated, and treated like shit. They like it."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 08:39 AM
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Yes I have a problem with most RPW. It's rarely as simple as "I'd like to be submissive to my man," which, if that's all that it is, do you. Most RPW are hyper judgmental, catty, and hateful women. If they don't hate women, they have warped viewpoints about a woman's rightful 'role' in society/the household and often proclaim that more women should be following RPW ideology, even though it's not the right choice for many women. Not to mention many of them are simply batshit crazy. It's hard to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 08:36 AM
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I reported it at the time, and it got deleted. Do I need to send it to them still or did they see it? I'm not sure how that works. I made a thread over at the blue pill about it after it happened, so I still know where the comment was made but it's since been deleted. I copy/pasted the part where she made the....disturbing...comment about rape and murder. Here's that: you're just some loud mouthed Cooze on the internet we'd rape and kill together. Then another TRPer chimed in that he would like …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 06:39 PM
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It was a navy seal copy-pasta. And to be fair, we do the same stuff lots of times There was another one this week. The first one I took seriously because I'm new to Reddit. The second one, however, wasn't a copypasta. HHL told me she and her husband would rape and murder me, or something. It was weird. Super super weird. And freaky. Mostly though I was just poking fun at the fact that you made a generalization and said a single example could disprove them. I disagreed to disprove yours, but I st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 04:59 PM
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You raise an interesting point. Generalities are the reason TRPers feel like they can make such hateful remarks about entire groups of people, so I don't personally find them very helpful. There are shared traits among different types of people, but it doesn't make a generality very meaningful since you could apply it to an incidence in which there are individuals that disprove it which makes it virtually useless as a predictor of human behavior. There's too much variation for generalities to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 05:48 AM
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Stahp! We all think exactly the same, and that's it! We think only one singular way! Especially us feeeemales. Are you a feeeemale? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 01:47 AM
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Really...how many 5'0 Victoria's Secret models do you know? These would be the people that make a living JUST because they are iconically beautiful. Make more than a living actually. Gisele Bundchen makes more than Tom Brady, a 4 time Super Bowl winning MVP. You're fucking insane if you actually think tall women are not revered as beautiful. For you twerps, it's the more you don't know, apparently. And I'm not tall so I'm not defending them out of a sense of duty, just because it is absolutely t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 11:02 PM
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Super models are for appealing to men (sexuality) The rest of your post is superfluous since you proved my point in your first sentence. Thanks for playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 08:34 PM
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Tall women are not prized for their aesthetic appearance. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Omg that's funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 08:33 PM
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There is no contradiction. If your mind is constantly on the best ways to get tail, no matter how you describe it or whether you call it TRP or PUA or whatever other title you give it, you're going to find tail as long as you have established some sort of belief that you can get tail. Not hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 08:32 PM
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Typical completely vague and ridiculous post. "Financial destruction" in actual real people terms means....? TRP advocates traditional gender roles, which do not include women having jobs. If a woman gives up her financial future and her career aspirations to take care of you, then you SHOULD be responsible for providing for her. You made the choice to make the woman dependent. No one else is making that for you. Enjoy dependency and the ramifications of the patriarchal mindset you hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:10 PM
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Clearly you don't know what circle jerking is. Two people of the same pill speaking to each other about a recurring theme in the sub doesn't qualify, FYI. Also, what are we, the only two blue pillers on PPD today? I think you'll manage just fine. RP Bros are just down the hall. Skedaddle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:20 AM
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I firmly believe people attract what they focus on most so I don't think it has a single thing to do with TRP...instead it has totally to do with you and where your mind is all the time. But if it makes you feel better to think it's TRP, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:01 AM
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It's really beautiful though, because it results in us getting the sex we want, How is this relevant to my comment? I even looked back at the context and it still doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:50 AM
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I didn't misread. It was just a stupid comment, and the implication is that BPers just SAY it's satire to get out of defending the premise of Blue Pill...which is actually SATIRE. So I was asking you at what point it is inconvenient to claim that it is satire, when it is actually and always has been...satire? Also, my original comment was to refute that what you take to be Blue Pill, i.e., feminism or any ideology where women are viewed as human beings with agency and bodily autonomy, is the 'de…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:25 AM
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To think homo sapiens are somehow not bound by this reality is quite pompous. FFS, there are different types of horses, and their behavior is very often determined by environment. For example, how will a wild horse who has never been saddled act when you attempt to saddle him/her vs. how will a horse that has been saddled since he/she was big enough to hold a saddle respond to the same situation? Completely differently. The problem with TRP is it looks at ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONING as literal sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:11 AM
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The point is irrelevant. We have common characteristics with horses too, but we cannot predict human behavior by observing horse behavior and making sweeping generalizations that those behaviors apply to all humans because both humans and horses breathe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:03 AM
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So the fact that all living things need sustenance in order to survive is proof of AWALT now? Just hush. You sound ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:01 AM
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Really...when is it inconvenient to be satirical on Blue Pill? You think of blue pill as the antithesis of red pill, but it's actually just a sub making a mockery of red pill. The antithesis of red pill is feminism, redefined gender roles, women's rights movements, etc. Blue Pill is a place where women and men, mostly feminists and otherwise enlightened people, come together to mock and jeer at the disgusting lack of basic reasoning and openly misogynistic rhetoric tossed around by RPers (typica…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 02:58 AM
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AHALT - need food and water to survive. So I believe AH(umans)ALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 02:51 AM
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Oh yes I always report them. I don't know if it actually helps. The first one I was so taken aback by I reported to the FBI. I may do the same with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 12:30 AM
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Yes I just had one crazy RPW that said she and her husband would like to rape and murder me so while I feel narcissism is a definite undercurrent of any TRP speech, the psychopathy/sociopathy is even more jarring and ultimately, extremely concerning. I have never encountered death threats in my life, even on the Internet. Until I spent like 21 days on Reddit in PPD. Now they roll in every time I have a posting spree on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 12:07 AM
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Maybe I attract that sort of woman so the real figure might be lower. This is the most sensible stance I think I've ever heard from a red piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 12:00 AM
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solipsism, not true scotsman, strawman, etc., and the fact they engage in all those things too. Funny you should mention strawmen. I am currently in a discussion with a terp about this exact point. He says AWALT is not a strawman because the literal words all women are like that do not in fact mean all women are like that. I mean sensible first, that's TRP. /s Are you on BP? I get bored over here at PPD pretty quickly because almost all my interactions with terps go as follows: Twerp makes irrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:52 PM
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1 and possibly 6, although I may be able to find an example of a woman who thrives from living on the edge. In fact, strike 6, 1 is the only universal truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:45 PM
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I do know what a strawman is, and AWALT, despite your best attempts to assert that the literal words ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT, do not in fact mean all women are like that, is still a strawman. Hamstering like a pro though. You must've learned from the feeemales you associate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:37 PM
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TRP IS a strawman. That's what you don't seem to understand. Don't attribute the faulty logic to me. AWALT. NAWALT. AWALALTLALAT. Whatever it is, it's a strawman. You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:30 PM
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special snowflake school of thought. No you're right. We're all essentially carbon copies of each other - robots incapable of independent or rational thought. Much more logical. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 10:02 PM
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The fact that you find your very nature to be inferior is quite telling. The fact that you think you know my nature is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:31 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:28 PM
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In the context of TRP, yes. TRP: "Women are less smart and less capable of rational thinking." "Women are like children." "Women are like dogs except dogs are loyal and can be trained." So saying that women are less intelligent than men (dicktelligence y'all!), that women are like mentally underdeveloped children, and that women are like species of animal goes to treating women as equal or superior? Please. Let's not have this argument. I'm not interested. PPD is always the same. You state a bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:22 PM
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I think I created a safe space in my mind where I think of TRP as almost auto-generated bots designed to drive people nuts. I know that's not the case, but it helps me not want to slap people on the regular lol. I think most of them have sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies as well. I always laugh when they start with the 'solipsism' argument about women since that defines TRP in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:15 PM
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Yeah they also ignore the rule about the pill that is asked answers the questions directed to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:13 PM
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I'm not debating something as simple as 'grass appears green.' If you disagree with the basic premise of TRP is the basic premise of TRP, then I have no time for you. It would take too long, and I'm not interested enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:12 PM
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Its you that is making the logical leap and decrying that means women are inferior. Look I don't have time for this. If you're going to be so ignorant as to claim that I am literally fabricating that the dominant belief in TRP is that women are inferior, we're done here. Just know there are thousands of posts with hundreds of upvotes that prove my point, if you would like to take the time to look for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 08:52 PM
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What do you mean 'concede?' I never argued there was only one part. You guys just want to pretend you are making good, revolutionary points, when no one is disputing it in the first place. Physical attractiveness is what dictates whether you get laid. Period. Confidence helps. An unattractive man, no matter how confident, is not going to have the same success rate with most women as an attractive man with the same level of confidence IMO, so it's not a determining factor but it does contribute t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 08:35 PM
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Go back and read my ETA if you didn't pick it up. A big part of how you carry yourself is your confidence level. Confidence as a generally attractive trait is also logical and correct. You think BP rejects that many women are attracted to physically attractive, confident men for what reason? We're not arguing that. We reject the idea that women are inferior to men; that all women behave the same way; that women practice hypergamy exclusively; that women are incapable of true 'love;' that feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 08:22 PM
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Yep, caught me. ETA: for the sarcastically less inclined, it works for hot guys - just like almost every 'sexual strategy' on planet earth works for physically attractive men. But sure, ALPHA and TRP for the WIN! eye roll
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 08:16 PM
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Try to use some common sense here. Too funny. Trying to be more attractive by building muscle is not what is wrong with TRP. Try reading. I am saying physical attractiveness is the only thing that gets misogynistic TRPers laid in the first place, which implies they've been lifting like dude bros as prescribed by TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 08:05 PM
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Of course not. Anyone who believes they are is on a whole other level of delusional and may not be fit to mingle with others in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 07:07 PM
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You know it's no wonder so few blue pill people post in this debate subreddit. Your posts keep getting downvoted to oblivion while the Red Pill bullshit is upvoted. Maybe if the insecure red pillers were a little less heavy handed with the downvoting, more blue pill perspectives would be posted on here. Not that they actually want to hear what blue pill thinks. They just want to feel like they've subjectively won a bro match debate on Red Pill theory so they can continue circle jerking and belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 07:05 PM
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If you're looking for something substantive and thought provoking, then by default, nothing Red Pill will ever satisfy that. Blue Pill is meant to satirize what is otherwise offensive, misogynistic tripe meant to degrade, objective, and dehumanize women. If you want something better than this, find a topic that isn't centered around male superiority and misogyny. That would be a great start.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 07:01 PM
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What does 'ruined' mean? Doesn't TRP advocate that women have no career and simply cater to their man? So wouldn't it only make rational sense that the woman would get some share of assets accrued by the man since she was encouraged not to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:52 PM
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No matter how many ways it's explained to them, it doesn't penetrate their thick skulls. It's always particularly head scratching for me when they start waxing philosophical about how desirable old men are compared to old women. I'm like...have these men ever spoken to an actual woman or do they just see like Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise and are like look how well men age! All women want old men! Post-wall women are gross! It's just too much nonsense to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:38 PM
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Are we going to play this game again, where we just straight up don't believe what women are telling us about what is happening to them? Welcome to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:18 PM
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Wearing a real wedding ring doesn't deter some men...does it really work for you to wear a fake one? Lots of men just look at it as a challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:17 PM
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You don't know what Blue Pill is but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:12 PM
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It hints at a double standard because ultimately the woman has a right to choose if she wants to terminate or go through with the pregnancy and the man has to accept her decision either way. The man had the choice of whether to stick his dick in a woman with a uterus, an egg, and fallopian tubes, so choices were made on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:09 PM
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Bottom line, physical attractiveness is the only way men get away with playing 'alpha' anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:07 PM
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Pseudo-science alert! Height is more important than masculine behavior. But women use height as a proxy for masculinity. Then why are tall women the most prized for their aesthetic appearance, e.g., super models? I suppose Alessandra Ambrosio and Gisele Bundchen must be highly prized for their masculinity...???
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:04 PM
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Blue mode is not default. Naive and inexperienced is default.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 05:57 PM
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The fallacy in this 'question' is that it assumes that some women accepting abusive treatment from men is the norm, and that since it occurs, it is predictive of the type of man that will get 'laid.' It also seems to assert that getting laid is totally random and that kind, respectful men get laid + domestic abusers get laid + people in the middle get laid, which is not red pill logic. Only alphas get laid according to red pill. Or if betas get laid it is only for their money. So your question i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 05:50 PM
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No one in my life gives red pill advice. I have never encountered it. That said, if someone did, he/she would be out of my life in a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 05:30 PM
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I'm not concerned about the why. I'm concerned because sweeping generalizations are used to brainwash men into believing that women are one specific way only (biologically actually - don't you understand science?!?!?!) when in actuality, not only is it not something that happens all the time, it doesn't even happen MOST of the time. "Women love to be dominated" lol ok. "Women love to be ignored or when you play aloof." lol ok. "Women love when you act hyper masculine and never display emotion." …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:00 AM
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What is it about TRP that you believe? Which 'principles' make sense to you? She wants to have it all, and realizes that she can't What kind of work does she do? And, again, my allegiance is to the "truth" (not an objective thing) This is not completely true. Your truth could look different than someone else's truth, even though mentally it is hard to wrap your head around there being 2 versions of the truth. It's like for one person it is the truth that they have experienced dating relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 07:07 PM
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I have yet to find a woman IRL who doesn't acknowledge many of the "truths", even the hard ones, when I present them in a thoughtful and contemplative fashion. I find this extremely hard to believe. You told these women that they are mindless creatures that engage in hypergamy any time a more 'high status' male is in their general vicinity. You told them that femininity is defined by 'serving' and 'pleasing' your man. You told them that traditional gender roles are actually how things should be,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:48 PM
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I'm not backing down. (: Don't worry. I still know. :) I don't mean it is for all of them..for some it's just a crime of opportunity, they feel entitled to the person's body, they think they get to decide whether she really means no, etc. but at the end of the day it's usually about power. Sexual gratification is a bonus, but there are so many ways to experience sexual gratification that only the truly power hungry deviants have to rape in order to get it. I'll ask her about the most current thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:29 PM
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You have no idea. Oh I do. I knew you knew you were wrong about rape not being a compulsion (for SOME) by about your second comment back to me about it. :) I'm a contrarian too though so I indulged you because I like a good debate, like I'm sure you do. Honestly. Thank you. Back at you. Hopefully we'll see each other around again. If you TRPers would give us a chance, you would see that we women can be good for a few other things than just as your sexthings. I've always been amazed at my ability…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:53 AM
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They are pissed off and angry and feel like no one listens to them Who can argue with this logic? I mean pissed off at all women for what a few women in their lives have done. Why don't we all embrace this kind of logic and just hate everyone that's not like us? And don't act like TRP exists outside of that hatred and misogyny. It facilitates it. It breeds it. It is in fact the catalyst for some of these young boys to transform their confusion into extreme forms of hatred. Do you think I can't r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:45 AM
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Well aren't you the contrarian. Now you agree that there are some rapists that are motivated by a compulsion but since it is not all rapists I shouldn't have brought up that some have a compulsion at all. I didn't state that they SAY it because I thought that was understood. I actually just simply thought it was common knowledge TBH. Here's why compulsion makes sense. A compulsion is an 'irresistible urge to behave in a certain way, especially against one's conscious wishes. This has been studie…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:29 AM
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The community though...oh the community. Pretty sure the low iq and prejudice link was what I was showing you, not the conservative beliefs. Also, how do you reconcile your anti-feminist rhetoric with modern liberalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:21 AM
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I did, however, find this with a quick Google search. Food for thought: http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conservative-beliefs-linked-prejudice-180403506.html Focus on the link between low IQ and prejudice. MW Definition of Prejudice: 1prejudice noun prej·u·dice \ˈpre-jə-dəs\ : an unfair feeling of dislike for a person or group because of race, sex, religion, etc. Just check out the TRP sidebar or almost ANY post for evidence of prejudice against women. (Usually with a justification that resembles so…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:14 AM
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I never called it a disorder, crazy. I said it was a compulsion for rapists, ACCORDING TO THEM. Don't think it's a compulsion? Take it up with the fucking rapists that say that, not me. For fuck's sake, you're the type of person that asks a drug dealer about how to fly to the moon. Well obviously a drug dealer knows better than a NASA scientist. Or wait, I guess you could be a rapist so you would know better that it's not a compulsion, than, you know, rapists who SAY IT IS A FUCKING COMPULSION. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 05:56 AM
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I didn't say anything about a disorder. You are the one that invented that in your mind to make my statement seem more outlandish than it actually is. I said SOME rapists are motivated by a compulsion, which has been discussed at length by repeat offenders (particularly child molesters) that can't control their urges and once on the outside no matter how intensive the therapy they have recieved, they re-offend. Secondly, if you don't know that rape is more about power than sexual release, then y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 05:09 AM
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Either you are cutting-edge, or you are disingenuous... Yet more proof that you have no desire to learn anything about the cause of rape or why men do it. Do you consider yourself to be an expert on rape particularly or just everything - like a jack of all trades know-it-all?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 02:26 AM
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You need to learn more about rape and why rapists commit the crime before you ask questions like this. It's not my job to educate you when you clearly have no interest in learning anyway. If I thought you genuinely wanted to be more informed, I wouldn't care to explain, but you are clearly just (Ir)rationalizing so that you can continue to believe and pander your completely useless ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 09:46 PM
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READ what I responded to. "You blew it. I'm leaving." is what I was RESPONDING TO. Why do you people refuse to read the posts I respond to and then make irrelevant statements to me back as if I'm the one being unreasonable when I was simply responding to someone that made a stupid remark? This is exactly what TRP teaches. So your goal is not to have sex then. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 08:16 PM
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Aside from the fact that Brad Pitt looked better in Fight Club in 1999 than he does NOW WORD. Another common TRP myth is that women like older men. SOME women may date them because they like their money, but they're not actually more physically attracted to old men. It's hilarious to me that terpers truly believe women are on average literally MORE attracted to OLD men than young, virile men. HAH. Yeah, okay. Like dude that keeps responding with his what like 5 examples of somewhat good looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 04:17 AM
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so I can't say that men are generally taller than women? sigh Do you see how height is something that can be QUANTITATIVELY MEASURED? Therefore we can make extrapolations on average height range, median height range, distributions based on height, etc. based on our observations because there is a finite measurement system that can be used so that when we discuss height, we deal in actual facts. For traits like, level of physical attractiveness, or "SMV," there is no such measurement, and it cann…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 12:42 AM
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In general for those that disagree with the narrative what exactly don't you believe happens? General points of disagreement: Women are not a single unit and for that matter, neither are men. There are no universal laws regarding female behavior, and a man with certain traits and characteristics is going to be viewed differently depending on what the specific woman wants. As a continuation of point one, I find the analysis that women date "out of their league" to be by majority false. This subje…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 11:56 PM
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I just can not w this group of "men" who think they know what a woman wants or is or will do or has done or whatever the Hell they think, and even when a girl is like " but hey, no" they argue w her. WORD!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 11:09 PM
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I don't care about your life story. And I don't care what you want in a partner. You didn't get my life story. You got the part that is relevant to dismantling your TRP mindset which is wrong on all levels. Please stop using the word solipsism until you grasp the very basic reality that all of TRP is solipsistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 08:18 PM
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They should back off and de-escalate but try not to be whiny twerps about it. Even though TRP doesn't teach this, just know that women apply abundance mentality too, and if you act like a cad or a sex crazed weirdo because she doesn't want to have sex with you on the first date, then she's going to be like..nah and go to one of the MANY other men in the dating pool. Not that I can speak for all women, but many women will do exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 08:16 PM
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How common is his experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 08:13 PM
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If there aren't men out there like that, which I have no idea if there are or not but it sounds like quite a generalization to act like you know for sure anyway, it is by societal conditioning that they're not. It has absolutely nothing to do with gender, which is what you're implying by thinking that it's a woman's natural state to be subservient to her man (LOL). TRPers are always so confused about the difference between societal conditioning and biological imperatives. FYI, they're not the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 07:53 PM
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It would be like someone who is financially independent going out shoplifting. You have no understanding of rape and why rape happens if you think that is an accurate comparison. Rape IS a compulsion for most rapists - a compulsion to exercise power over one's victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 07:34 PM
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Don't associate yourself with a community if you don't want to be linked to it. Pretty simple logic. Would think since you have such superior penis logic skillz that you would have been able to figure that out without having to have a woman tell you. The sad thing is that you think rape apologists are as rare to TRP as the Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity. I feel bad for you that you are so clueless about the members of the organization that you associate yourself with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 07:33 PM
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So if I said to you that I want to find a man whose only purpose in life was to serve me and to pleasure me, you'd think that was above reproach and an acceptable mentality? Switch the gender roles so you can find your outrage. Do what you need to do to see that acting like any romantic relationship that includes one master and one slave is acceptable, and also just generally come the fuck on with that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 08:36 AM
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What would a guy who knows that he can have sex with any number of women stand to gain by risking rape in order to have sex? May not have been able to get a woman as attractive or desirable or just may not have enough self control to stop. How the hell would I know why a rapist would rape someone? It IS possible though. It makes no sense. So because you are not a rapist, no one is a rapist. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 08:14 AM
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Then why the fuck are you talking about LMR, since, the majority of the time, LMR is reported as coming up in ONS-type situations? Because I've been one of the people that I'm sure would be classed as giving 'last minute resistance' when actually I never had any intention to have sex in the first place. My only intention was to make out and see if it was worth following through from there. Just because I'm giving you something doesn't ever mean I was going to give everything. I realize that by T…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 08:12 AM
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Which is what I hear every time after I hear their version of LMR, or we don't have sex. Teach the brethren then. Don't pop off at me about it. Your TRP community has a rape apologist problem. I had some douche tell me just today that 1/3rd of all rapes are false accusations (and 1/2 in India). Deal with that if you don't want to be associated with the rape problem and lack of knowledge about true consent that TRP has.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 08:07 AM
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"alrighty then - thanks for a great night and see ya' round...", READ THE POST I RESPONDED TO. JESUS H. CHRIST. How can you possibly hope to form a cogent argument to something when you take everything I say completely out of context to twist it around to suit your argument? I find saying things like "You blew it [because you wouldn't fuck me], I'm leaving bye." to be petulant and whiny and threatening. If you had READ any of the replies to me, my replies TO THOSE REPLIES might make more sense. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 07:59 AM
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Why do you terpers all say different things and then pretend like you're saying the same thing? Like this, "alrighty then - thanks for a great night and see ya' round...", You are the FIRST AND ONLY person on this thread to act like the exit would have been pleasant and not been petulant/juvenile about the rejection. ONLY. Yet you act like I'm saying a diplomatic exit is wrong..when I never said that because it was never even postulated that it was going to occur. Some other douche said "you ble…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 07:56 AM
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No it's a threat and just petulant/juvenile to say, "you blew it I'm leaving now," and be rude about it. The term last minute resistance is misleading because at face value it seems like it means the woman needs an extra push to want to fuck you, but when questioned apparently the "TRP strategy" is to back completely off. So it's not really last minute resistance if you get nothing and she says no. Sounds like just a regular no I don't want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 07:52 AM
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Backing off completely is not continuing to push.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 07:49 AM
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He is 1 of approximately 1,696 players in the NFL. Do you get that or....no?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 07:48 AM
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So you're not allowed to leave a woman because she won't have sex with you? Of course you are. What you shouldn't do is try to manipulate the situation by whining that if she doesn't, you're leaving. If you're like, okay I'm going to take off, she's going to see you were only out for the one thing and probably lose interest. Depending on the woman, she may have a different response, but I know I would've lost interest. Why do TRPers always make things more dramatic than they need to be? Like say…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 02:04 AM
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5) You invite him back to your place No. That's where it has stopped for me. Even when I was single, I wasn't feeling one night stands. Not my thing. So no, that scenario has not happened to me. I have been making out with a guy and not wanted it to go farther. But it actually meant, I'm not cool with this back off. 100% of the time. If I ever say no, it means no. It doesn't mean, I would really like it if you manipulate me or 'go cold' or 'act disinterested' or whatever game you're playing. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 02:02 AM
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After the fact to me meant after the initial consent is given. I know you RPers think women just sit around thinking of false rape accusations all day long like you do, but the fact of the matter is that I had never considered someone actually 'revoking' consent after the sex act had already occurred because that's not what withdrawing consent ACTUALLY is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 01:54 AM
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I'm pretty sure you don't understand sarcasm. But really, do you believe women are responsible for being raped if they are dressed a certain way or if they're putting themselves in 'situations?' Because if so, should you not be held to at least the minimum standard you hold other women? By TRP logic, men should be in complete control of their 'false' rape accusations....but you're apparently not. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:47 PM
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What did you figure out? It's not that big of an issue. And unless you're not doing what you need to do to protect yourself from getting falsely accused (I think that's the TRP train of thought is it not?) then you really have nothing to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:37 PM
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false rape claims are not a real issue. In debate. That's what I said. It's like saying meteors striking the earth are issues as far as natural disasters. Sure once in a blue moon, but the most common forms of natural disasters have 0 to do with meteors tumbling out of the sky so talking about it too much gives it undue representation in terms of relevance to the overall issue. that's not something I could have prevented. Do you believe that a woman should moderate who she goes behind closed doo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:24 PM
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What do you mean "regardless of how I twist it?" I thought you meant that someone says yeah let's do this, then you get too rough or you start doing something she doesn't like, and she says no. That would be an actual consent withdrawal that you would have to listen to or you would be accused of ACTUAL rape (not falsely accused, rightfully accused). But yeah, the only rape in a situation where you decide after giving consent and doing the deed "gosh, I think I just got raped" because you aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:19 PM
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why should I do work for you? Cute how you imply that you have actual evidence. Child, sit down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:16 PM
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You believe 1/3rd of rape accusations are false due to the mounting body of evidence that you're going to actually post to back up that stupid ass claim....(that means post your evidence shit head).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:14 PM
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later on, she decides to stop fucking me, but if i tell her i'm leaving because of that, i'm a rapist. Do what you want. The only one responsible for whether or not you're accused of rape is yourself. Watch the situations you put yourself in. Should probably make sure your clothing choices and your 'status' displayed is appropriate. Might want to make sure you evaluate what kind of woman you're going into a closed off room with BEFORE you go in there, because at the end of the day, it wouldn't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:12 PM
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Why are you still responding to me? You stopped having anything interesting to say around post 1 to my original comment (of which you only responded to the first sentence...the rest was apparently above your pay grade).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:08 PM
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if you're trying to make a point about the rate of false accusation, then i'd say the number is about a third. This is literal insanity. 1. you are not qualified to make any such determination 2. you have no evidence to back up your assertion 3. no real agency or reliable body has indicated it has EVER been above 8% (as in that is the maximum it would be), and 4. just to reiterate, you are STILL not qualified and will never be qualified to make any statement like that. It disgusts me you would e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:07 PM
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I don't know...you're the one responding. Maybe, stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:02 PM
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Who cares how common it is? People that are actually concerned about discussing real issues, that's who. It exists and ruins men's lives every day Are you as concerned about getting murdered? Cause that happens and it actually ENDS men's lives every day. How about robbery? Identity theft? Meteors striking the earth? Hurricanes leveling towns? You worried about ALL of those things too? Yes it's a non-issue. How long have you hated men? I don't hate real men. How the hell do you function like that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:01 PM
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If words have no meaning, why even talk to you? Irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:59 PM
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The fact that you think you need to emotionally manipulate and threaten with abandonment to get a girl to have sex with you means you are not good at game and you are using threats to get your way. I don't even know how you could feel good about that. Why would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:59 PM
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I feel so sorry for you people. You focus on these stupid obscure issues and use stupid irrelevant blog posts to support that there are actually people that do what you whine and worry about. Even though they make up far less than 0.01% of people in the world, you are still worried. Why? Is it because you think you're not upstanding and you could get into a situation where a real rape accusation could be levied against you? FYI, almost 100% of rapists act like they were falsely accused, and abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:56 PM
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You have no credibility. Bye now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:53 PM
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Weeeeeee another man who thinks false rape accusations are the norm. I thought dudebro was talking about during the sex act because that actually makes sense and is something that happens often in the human experience. False rape accusations are uncommon and I didn't even realize that's what the hell this person was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:53 PM
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Hmm let's see guys getting accused of rape after what they understood to be consensual sex It's not common. It very rarely happens. And you can keep it from happening by having standards and not sleeping with anything that moves. I love how TRP men are all like, "Women are responsible for what they wear and who they're around. If they get raped, it's their fault!" If a guy gets 'falsely' accused of rape, somehow it's her fault. Shouldn't he be responsible for the situations he puts himself in li…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:51 PM
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You are a blue pill leaning person and likely sjw/feminist leaning so your word is inherently less reliable than mine, and people posting in /r/mr. Any credibility you may have had, you just shattered. If you think TRP is 'inherently reliable' please seek professional help to deal with your obvious mental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:47 PM
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You idiots are so focused on 'false rape accusations' that you forget that LMR is real rape strategy and if you don't want a 'false rape accusation' you should focus more on being an upstanding human being and less on the boogeyman under your bed. Also, how fucking stupid that you think false rape accusations are common enough to even talk about them as often as you do. They are so rare as to almost be a non-issue in debate. REAL RAPE however is a REAL ISSUE.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:46 PM
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Who in the hell withdraws consent after sex? Like no one. Why do you TRPers use obscure reasoning and then expect everyone's going to follow it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:39 PM
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Then don't pander it about as fact. The difference is this is my actual story. I don't need to verify details through a 3rd party like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:31 PM
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When you say 'after the fact,' do you mean after the whole act of sex has occurred and is over or are you talking about after she initially gave it and perceptibly still in the middle of the sex? ETA: Also, I hope you never hold office just on the basis that TRP is toxic and anyone who holds these views is also toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:29 PM
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Dudette actually. But that is actually what I'm saying. Thanks for repeating it back to me as if it's a revolutionary new thought. seems to be the most likely answer. So you don't know for sure, even if the story is to be believed at face value. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:28 PM
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Is this a joke? Are you trying to punk me? I literally QUOTED your comment where you made an incorrect statement about rape. Here it is again: You don't get to consent and then withdraw it after the fact because "coercion". While it's.....cute.....that you think you're 'calling me out,' you would have had to actually not have SAID something rapey for you to be able to call anyone out about explaining to you what actual consent is. Comparing consent to borrowing a video game console is ludicrous.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:25 PM
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You are pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:21 PM
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LMR strategy in TRP = powering through. What behavior do you think you can use that is NOT powering through in that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:08 PM
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Yeah except my anecdote comes from my actual self not some random dude that told you a story on the Internet. Am I saying my anecdote should automatically be believed by you? No. You don't and will probably never actually know me. However, same rules apply to the alleged "false rape accusation." Also, just wondering, did the woman like send him something to let him know that was the reason she filed a false claim or is he just assuming that's why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:06 PM
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Ok. What is the point of this anecdote?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:01 PM
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You don't get to consent and then withdraw it after the fact because "coercion". Yet another RP lackey with no concept of what consent is. Consent can be withdrawn WHENEVER the person giving it wants to withdraw it. Let's imagine that consent is like "Hey I'll let you borrow my playstation." because I know this is something you might be able to actually relate to. Now if X woman says "Hey you can borrow my playstation" and then she sees you getting rough with it and bashing the controllers on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 05:40 PM
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Guys need better standards. Seriously. If guys had standards, the Red Pill really wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 05:37 PM
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Just so we're clear, "you blew it and I'll leave.' - threat. co·erce kōˈərs/Submit verb persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats. Now, just if we're using pesky old definitions of words to determine whether something is coercion, both of your bullets are coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 05:36 PM
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I bet it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 05:32 PM
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Here's our disagreement: You think there is an acceptable level of 'powering through' and I personally think all of it is rape-y because it is literally saying, 'even though you're clearly indicating you don't really want to be doing this, I have decided that that is not very important and I am going to continue trying to get you to say yes through any means of manipulation or intimidation I can justify."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 05:31 PM
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I'm so glad I get to talk to people who LITERALLY are confused about what the word "If" means. IF MEANS IN THE EVENT OF, NOT THIS IS A REALITY OR FACT OF LIFE. ETA: SINCE would be the word you're looking for which means what you apparently think IF means. Terpers hate all women for the most part and shame all women/relegate them to inferior status. You have no idea what the word 'love' means if you think twerps "love" sluts. Finally, I have so little faith you know what actual consent is, I coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 05:28 PM
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Look up the definition of coerce and then report back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 09:31 AM
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What you are describing has literally never happened to me. When I say "hold up there" I mean stop I want to wait because I'm not ready..I do not mean try harder and pressure me. That is such a turn off. I am not lying to you. I swear it is a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 08:24 AM
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whereas one with ambition and goals would rather chew off her own hand than hold yours. Well, I know which camp I'm in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:26 AM
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I just can't explain to you that you're wrong in any other way than to say YOU ARE WRONG. When I first had sex with my husband, he wanted to wait and I wanted to get it on. I had to wait on HIM to be ready to have sex. And I am the one that had prior 'experience' in the field, not him. I know, I'm an 'exception' I'm so 'special' not all girls are 'like me' or whatever justification you use to not listen to a damn word an actual woman has to say to you, but it's STILL 100% true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:03 AM
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I for one, want my girl to put in just barely enough effort at work, be unambitious, and have no higher goal in life than pleasing and serving me. I literally almost threw up reading this. I can't take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:44 AM
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They don't want betas who take even the slightest hint of LMR as a sign to back away and give up on sex. You literally could not be more wrong. If you tried to be more wrong, you would not be able to manage it. Most women I know and definitely this applies to myself want ONLY men who respect us enough to understand that no means no and that resistance means 'I'm not ready, slow down.'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:32 AM
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What do you mean "IF" slut shaming exists in our society? Have you even read any Red Pill mumbo jumbo? Because if so, this post wouldn't begin with "If." Pillers are the worst slut shamers. They want to bang everything that moves, but they think they can assert their superiority over everything they bang. It's actually kind of self depreciating when you think about it to have such a low opinion of the women who lower themselves enough to bang the likes of you, but whatever, none of TRP makes sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:26 AM
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What you're seeing is actually just proof in reality that TRP is utter fucking nonsense. That is all. No we're not psychic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 07:16 AM
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Men are shamed for being stay at home dads. Often. It's like you think feminism has negated all of the stigma around men not providing, and this from people that are very aware of TRP and the manosphere. I mean really? Also, why do so many non-blue pillers answer blue pill questions? Like I scroll down and see answers that say, "women don't actually want to change gender roles" and I think the rule that the actual pill asked has to answer the questions is either not enforced or is just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 12:10 AM
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I thought people of the actual pill being questioned were supposed to answer. Where are the Blue Pillers? I can't decide whether the histrionics regarding 'men's problems' is entertaining or actually damaging. Feminism, by definition, helps to break down barriers for men as well. For example, men are no longer expected to provide. There is an understanding that depending on the partner they choose, the woman may be the primary breadwinner or may at minimum contribute to the home in terms of prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 12:04 AM
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Honey if reason smacked you in the face with a perfect pair of boobs, you still wouldn't recognize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 11:36 PM
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Enjoy your privilege. Thank you. I will. :) Glad we finally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:32 AM
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It's almost like you think you get to dictate whether I can have both, and you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:03 AM
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Your comment is dumb. See how dumb refers to your comment specifically and allegedly my thread (if by proxy since it discusses TRP philosophy, it is dumb by nature so I agree). That means that all comments and threads are dumb. We ahve observed that your comment AND my thread are in fact dumb which means all comments and threads in existence (minus a few rare exceptions that we will henceforth refer to as 'unicorns') are dumb. Voila! the vast majority of cases, Conjecture. because the word is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:29 PM
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"Capable" =/= "competent in doing so in every facet of life". Really. I didn't know I switched brains to make some decisions. I find new things out about myself from TRP every single day. Edited autocorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:58 PM
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"Just because science proved something factually correct, if it aligns with TRP belief it HAS to be wrong" Jesus H. Christ. You think hand measurements are indicative of adult female testosterone levels, and you think I'm 'hamstering' by pointing out how irrational and stupid that conclusion is. The earth is square, okay, I understand you must be right on the virtue of penis alone. Sorry for questioning you Mr. Alpha Fux.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:55 PM
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I can't believe I actually have to explain this, but scientific hypotheses cannot be proven. They can only be disproven. It has only been suggested by SOME scientists that the ratio has any link whatsoever to exposure to testosterone in utero (which btw is not an accurate measurement of "testosterone levels" IN ADULT FEMINIST FEMALES as is falsely stated in this conjecture you call a "scientific" study). A note to ALL of TRP: just because a study supports your vastly dim witted and clearly limit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:49 PM
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Ok the fact that you think this study is not flawed is interesting. The only two factors used to determine a woman's testosterone level are "hand shapes" and "dominance" yay for more pseudo science! My hands are tiny, but I'm sure some fucking whackjob pseudo "scientist" would measure them and determine that I somehow am a man in a woman's body Lololol. What utter fucking stupidity. Just because something is called science doesn't mean it actually means anything. You may believe what you want. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:34 PM
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Oh I'm sure this will be good. Let me read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:27 PM
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Well when you post the ramblings of a historical scholar, all we mere mortals can do is say... /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:26 PM
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I'm going to respond to more of this later, but I am just blown away that you think the increased likelihood that you even encounter women who are interested in a ONS (with a woman that is not engaged in sex work) is attributable to anything other than feminism. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:24 PM
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Thanks. It's always interesting learning about my testosterone levels from someone over the Internet. This is just getting silly and petulant now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:18 PM
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Which cultures tried to break gender norms? My bet is that it not only didn't happen but also wasn't every powerful country in the world simultaneously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:16 PM
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Actually it's more likely that the gender roles between men and women are changing permanently.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:10 PM
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Actually it's just another form of TRP manipulation, not tact. If you told a woman what you really think of women and their inferiority, it would never get you laid, and you know that. That's why you don't say it; you hide your true feelings so you can capitalize on their ignorance and what you know to be true which is that males believing in female inferiority is a turn off almost 100% of the time. Now that's a trend! Edited typo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:08 PM
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By default, a low "status" female is not attractive according to TRP standards. An attractive feminist is what you're looking for, of which there are many. she loves it. Mmmmk. This is solid logic. Your woman is a submissive therefore 98% of women are & it's a trend. The state of my relationship is the opposite of what you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:05 PM
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Or to make a genuine connection with one, which you, of course, think is not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:01 PM
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You have confidence and looks, and you think it's TRP getting you laid. Priceless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:45 PM
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You think Taylor Swift, Beyoncé, and Emma Watson are unattractive. Noted. Sorry but after the seriously psycho death threat I received yesterday, I trust no one on this site. I should post a pic of the threat for you. Still sexism and misogyny are not what women other than the very few RPW find attractive. I know you are adamant about believing it doesn't matter, so I encourage you to go up to your nearest HB9 and tell her you hate women or think women are inferior to men. Then report back to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:40 PM
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Yes feminism is getting you laid more. I had no idea you had that worked out, Wtf is a pussy redistribution?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:36 PM
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I don't care about what they want or feel I only care about what they do in reality. Ok? You're part of a community attempting to learn about women and you're convinced you know it all about women. So why do you need to be here? Attractive women don't have to debase themselves by just having a ONS, which thanks to the patriarchy is exactly what a ONS is seen as doing if you're a woman. So give yourself a good big pat on the back if you're upset that more "hot" women won't just sleep with you wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:27 PM
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Most girls don't just want to be fucked. That's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:16 PM
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Can you do me a favor and go back and reread that whole comment? Because some men are willing to slum it, but that doesn't mean if they are attractive that they actually WOULD slum it as they would have more attractive options. And we all know most men are shallow as hell and WILL select their most attractive option.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:13 PM
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Without knowing what you look like, I only have your word to go by. Yes you do. I'm fine with it if you think I'm lying. I mean what else am I going to do? Definitely would not show my face on here unless I wanted to be tracked down and murdered (someone actually did threaten to kill me just yesterday on this site). And also, I have many personal anecdotes myself that I don't share becuase I know if I share them it will be either 'stop humble bragging' or 'you're lying..all feminists are ugly an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:11 PM
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Yes, some TRP guys actually want LTRs. How beta of you. You cannot know your subconscious is hypergamous. No but you can because you know me so well. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:02 PM
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You still don't get why you're wrong do you? Sigh Ok. Showing more tinder matches is not an indication that guys are 'slumming it' with less attractive partners. It shows that more men want to mate with more women than women want to mate with men. I.e. men will fuck anyone, but they definitely WANT to fuck the most attractive ones and will select the most attractive one from their pool of options - thus making it much less likely that an attractive person would end up with someone that was not e…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:01 PM
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The ones that get involved in it, read feminist blogs, post on Facebook, take selfies with "This is what a Feminist looks like", those are exactly like I describe. I read feminist blogs, and then I switch over and read about beauty and fashion. I do, however, not post selfies like "this is what feminism looks like!" because I don't look like what feminism typically looks like. So...hi! I exist! You'd be a tad naive to think that there aren't some very high SMV guys in that sub. You think persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:57 PM
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Countless tinder experiments OMFG TINDER EXPERIMENTS! Why did I not consider that before I spoke? I mean, real life experiences be damned - there are TINDER EXPERIMENTS that support the idea that men try to match with as many women as possible while women are more selective. STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:49 PM
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So all of the women I've been with aren't "good women"? You said it. Not me. And also, you didn't understand. I mean that YOU would ruin your chances with any woman -- good, bad or indifferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:47 PM
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There are black feminists, skinny feminists, famous feminists, but they are extreme outliers. You forgot feminine, girly feminists that are really into fashion and beauty. I am speaking about looks. As far as SMV, I think high value men wouldn't be trolling the Internet looking for ways to demean females and assert their superiority over an entire group of humans (50+% of the population) due to genitals alone. I have high standards though, admittedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:46 PM
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That would imply you were capable of destroying anything but your own chances at finding a good woman. THAT you are an expert at, no doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:40 PM
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Female feminist: High testosterone, low-SMV women. White, middle class. Aggressive, unfeminine. Usually fat. This is not what I look like; therefore, you envisioning this version of feminists is wrong. See where the logic you used is faulty? I was actually being generous when I gave most TRP's a 6 or 7. The more I talk to them, the more I think it's probably a 4 or 5 on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:39 PM
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It is much easier for women to fuck men who are physically more attractive than themselves than it is for a man to do the same with women. Physical attraction is subjective. FYI. You may determine that you are more beautiful than a woman, and I may determine that you are full of shit. Sure sure. Women always fuck hotter guys than themselves while men fuck less attractive women and commit only to the 'unicorn' HB9s. Whatever complete bullshit helps you justify your ridiculous mindsets. I don't ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:38 PM
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TRP's readers weren't really in need of the advice of "being more beta." They are in need of advice on being more balanced. What TRP fails to do is talk about the balance they apparently expect most men to master. You're presuming there's such a thing as natural alphas on a characterological level. You believe there are no natural alphas? Based on...what? Others would argue that real alpha-ness is about dominating other men, and that it is this which women find attractive. If the goal is to domi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:35 PM
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What do you think of when you think of a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:26 PM
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The idea that it's the alphas that are out of her 'league' is what is so fucking funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:25 PM
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Well it, by default is, because it talks about TRP. But I'm not sure you read the definition you provided, or in fact, read beyond the first paragraph of the article you quoted. Do both those things. Focus specifically on the 'not gendered' term and then go down to where it says 'hypergamy is believed to be on the decline' then go down further still to where it discusses how men engage in hypergamy by leaving their mates for younger, more attractive women. Then we can talk about why you actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:24 PM
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But I'll humor you. Don't worry. I won't humor you and I won't read your reply. I wouldn't want to be a burden on an alpha such as yourself. You may go engage another penis so that you can gain the psychological validation you need to continue to believe that TRP is anything other than tripe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:22 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh man...I seriously don't think it can get any funnier, and then it in fact does get funnier. The shit you boys come up with in your head...it's endless entertainment for people that live in this time and space called reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:21 PM
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If you don't understand the irony in your comment, there's no way to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:20 PM
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Which is why "misogyny" isn't an actual game plan. Even if it's not part of the actual code of conduct, or set of rules, or game plan, it is so engrained in the culture as to actually taint how women view the men who practice these bastardly practices like 'dread game,' 'shit tests,' 'abundance mentality,' etc. All of those are based in female inferiority, so while it may not be explicitly stated like this, ("Alphaman" walks into bar and goes hey bitch you're inferior to me let's go get in my be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:16 PM
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And I've heard the same thing. I wasn't agreeing with it. I was just reiterating that that's what TRP says. I think there are times when one could subjectively view Person A and Person B and on the spectrum of "Alpha-ness" the person selected by the high SMV woman would rate as more "Alpha." But any anomaly in that (which is not really an anomaly but actually an entirely separate trend) is seen as her 'settling' for a 'beta bux.' See what I mean about how TRP protects itself from criticism this …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:45 PM
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Feminists have created their own alternate reality where facts dont matter and everyone has to listen to them because its in their benefit. Hilarious. And you guys wonder why you have to hide being TRP out in society. I mean just...no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:38 PM
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Feminism is here to stay. Deal. The dog = unequal treatment of women in society I hear you and I fully understand what you're saying and what problems exist. Which problems would those be? Just to verify that you have in fact actually heard and absorbed the feminine experience enough to have an opinion on this subject at all, since it by default does not affect you. That does not mean you are incapable of understanding it; it means you have to WORK at not letting your personal bias (that you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:06 AM
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I don't know why you have to use such inflammatory language. If there's a specific idea that you disagree with, just disagree with it. It doesn't have to be SO dramatic. heard enough anecdotes about the difficulties of being a woman. I find it interesting that you think that if you weren't really listening that you would ever even HEAR an 'anecdote' much less really absorb what is being said. Even though the words may briefly pass through your brain, that doesn't mean you've absorbed them. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 07:31 AM
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However, when TRP discuss hypergamy in the sense of women wanting an alpha blah blah, they're talking about getting one-night stands rather than getting commitment etc. See I do think that's a common misunderstanding about TRP. You are probably correct that they are generally talking about ONS's because at times they act like alphas don't even engage in LTR's. However, I have heard them say specifically that a woman will TRY to get an 'alpha' to commit to an LTR but will marry a beta if he won't…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 07:22 AM
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The power of victimhood can carry you a long way. As can the power of privilege. Clouds your mind from being able to empathize with people who are not like you. It's when they use professional victimhood to slither their way into politics that shit gets weird. Hmm...so if I notice differences in the way that people are treated based on factors outside of their control, that's engaging in 'professional victimhood?' So many civil rights activists are rolling in their graves at the sincere injustic…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 06:51 AM
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"Red Pill" is all about becoming a manly dude with charisma. Our definitions differ because Red Pill is laced HEAVILY with misogyny. I've met lots of laid back guys that were hot and were very vocally pro-woman. Nothing is more of a turn off to me than misogyny. This one, in particular, is a spectacular example of someone doing their best to not get laid: I've seen them talk about this exact scenario multiple times in TRP and then call the girl a 'slut' and they all Internet bro-five over what a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 06:45 AM
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I think you're being dramatic about the impact of feminism on men's lives. If women are really not that big of a deal and are inferior by nature, I wouldn't worry about any of this actually impacting your life...right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:52 AM
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I choose empowerment and equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:48 AM
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The current trend in female sexuality in the West is to fuck as many alphas as possible in the 18-29 years and then marry a beta provider when they hit the wall. What about the ones that fuck betas between 18-29? Or do you honestly think only the alphas get tail?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:47 AM
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I don't think BP'ers really understand the type of individual that's drawn to TRP, so they use a simplistic explanation like this. I dunno. I don't think men that are really naturally 'alpha' are drawn to TRP. It seems like men that have beta tendencies trying to become alpha mostly, right? And I'm not saying all TRP men are like what I described, I was just saying that's what I picture. Probably like you picture feminists as dorky looking with glasses and possibly a little chunky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:46 AM
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you have some pretty distorted notions of masculine ideals.... I think that comes from reading too much TRP. One of the most "Red Pill" dudes I know is a skinny, affable rockstar with long dreads and a calm, quiet, empathetic demeanor. Is he really admitted "red pill" or just a manly dude with charisma? Because those two things aren't one in the same. Possible TRP Behaviors: -Macking on lots of different women at once and possibly playing them off each other (even on the first meeting) -Showing …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:42 AM
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I promise you I have been approached multiple times by red pill alpha types, and their advances turn me off. Believe what you want. It's no skin off my back if you think all women are turned on by that kind of behavior, but there are only so many ways I can clearly articulate that you're wrong. No amount of 'well he's not alpha enough' or 'his game was just off' is going to change the fact that I personally am not attracted to that macho man "I'm the best thing since sliced bread" "little women …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 11:15 PM
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Words mean stuff. "Pushing through resistance" and "backing the fuck off" are two entirely different strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 08:56 PM
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Yep pretty much. I don't know why God even gave us that lump 3 ft. above our asses, when all he really needed to give us was T&A so we could fulfill our 'role' in life - providing sexual gratification for alpha penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 08:54 PM
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at the heart of it we are 2 different species. Science is a thing. Maybe, like, study it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 08:51 PM
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Those warm tingles in your vagina often come from next level men. The only man that's ever truly pleased me in bed is my husband. True story. He's my next level man. Not by your definition, but then again, you are so woefully lacking that you need TRP so real men don't register on your radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 08:50 PM
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What does feminism mean, Red Piller? You'll prove my point without a doubt just by answering that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 08:07 AM
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You don't know much about the words you're using. Just FYI.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 07:42 AM
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Re: Why do women respond to it? The blue pill women that you are asking do not respond to it. The ones that do either have no idea that you're manipulating the fuck out of them, are too inexperienced to be able to read your true intentions, and/or just simply want to have sex and so they don't care how you act in order for them to get it. Some women are naive, but most aren't. You probably don't have that high of a success ratio, but your brain only catalogues the successes and forgets the many …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 07:22 AM
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hypergamy doesn't conflict with this. No it does. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergamy Studies of heterosexual mate selection in dozens of countries around the world have found men and women report prioritizing different traits when it comes to choosing a mate, with men tending to prefer women who are young and attractive and women tending to prefer men who are rich, well-educated, ambitious, and attractive.[6] Evolutionary psychologists contend this is an inherent sex difference arising out …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 06:52 AM
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Wow. It's like you're a psychic! Do you have psychic powers? No but really, none of your suppositions are true. Literally zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 06:36 AM
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I'm interested, how do you know my SMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 06:21 AM
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Hope you have a better experience in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 05:47 AM
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Cynical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 05:41 AM
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Well I doubt your husband would be able to use his "goodness to dogs" ability to escalate a new girl. Hamstering hard I see. You know at one point, my husband was not married yet somehow he convinced me that it was a good idea to marry him and have his babies. How do you think he managed it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 05:41 AM
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"Hypergamy" doesn't refer to marriage, for one. TRP is referring to raw sexual attraction in females If so, it's still incorrect. RAW sexual attraction in females is physical (does he have physical attributes that I find stimulating?) and sometimes emotional (will he make a good life partner?). Think Channing Tatum in Step Up. For one, money doesn't necessarily mean one will have social esteem or acclaim, and for two, if money were what made women attracted to men then TRP simply could not work …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 05:35 AM
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Yeah it's hard for me to believe anyone stupid enought to believe in TRP would have investment properties, but stranger things have happened I suppose. I wasn't feminist when I started the business though. My mindset has evolved, like many other successful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 04:53 AM
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Yes because as someone that went to a top 20 school in the country, earned a bachelors in economics and business, and opened a business at age 25, it would be totally expected that I would allow your "useless liberal arts degree" jab to go uacknowledged. I could care less if you believe me. Men like you will use any excuse to justify their misogyny, and a woman like me can't fit into your narrative. P.S. I'm not going to divulge the nature of my work, but not only do I enjoy it, it's very unconv…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 04:47 AM
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I wouldn't waste my time training you. I have standards. Edited out personal info. If you are under some false assumption that a man like yourself could even satisfy a woman like me, I'll just dispel that myth for you right off the bat. I don't need you or any man like you to manipulate me. Odds are I'm smarter and more successful at 28 than most men will be in their mid 40's so even the most alpha TRP dude doesn't have much to offer a woman like me. Color me thoroughly unimpressed with your his…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 04:35 AM
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You are the easiest kind to manipulate because you have a false belief that you hold the key to intelligence and power because of your penis. Men that dumb are as easy to train as a golden retriever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 04:26 AM
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It's easier to manipulate someone when you're smarter than they are, too. Just FYI. When you have a lower intellect than the person you're manipulating, it doesn't work. Chew on that a while. I always know when someone is manipulating me. Always. No one is frightened of you, other than the obvious rapist training that is taught by TRP. I, for one, am already married so my interest in the Red Pill is just pure exasperated and incredulous disbelief. Hahahahahahahahahaha woooo man. It's hilarious w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 04:14 AM
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So basically, what you're saying is that lower sex drive equals higher levels of innate manipulative power? I mean do you even try to make correlations and ensure that your jaded beliefs add up and make sense? What am I talking about. Of course you don't. You are pivoting. That's why it's ironic and why I pointed it out. I was being SARCASTIC when I said men are inferior. Jesus. It's not normal to believe an entire gender is inferior just because of genitals. If I ever make a comment like that, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 03:49 AM
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Manipulation is not about sex drive. Nice hamster attempt though. If it was about sex drive, most men would be master manipulators from early in childhood. Also, um...I'm...pivoting? Reread your comment. Unsurprisingly witless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 03:39 AM
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I guess that means men are just born witless. Makes sense when you think about it since most of them never outgrow it. Hence why TRP is so popular. Odd, though, that the 'superior' sex is so easily manipulated by the 'inferior' sex. heh. Might want to re-examine why it's so easy for witless men to be played by masterminded women. I mean, it's just innate for us to be smarter and foxier than you, by your own admission. Doesn't lend much credence to the 'men are better just cause penises y'all!' b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 03:28 AM
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i highly doubt .1% of men have heard of TRP, Typical, highly scientifically-backed TRP claim with clear evidentiary support. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 03:15 AM
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Males don't possess them in any higher quantity. In fact, if you want to hop on over to /r/TheRedPill you can see exactly how uncommon it can be in males.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 03:03 AM
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Ok you win. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 02:24 AM
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Do you need to reread the definition I provided? A definition of a word like 'misogyny' is not like the definition of a word like 'grass.' Misogyny is a complex issue, and it means more than 'hatred' the way you interpret it. This idea that "If I don't say I hate or think that I feel hate towards women, I'm not a misogynist." is rooted in the misunderstanding that you must interpret that you have "feelings" of hate to be a misogynist or make misogynistic comments, which is not the case. Perhaps …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 02:16 AM
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Similarly, there are a lot of arguments that women don't get a fair shake in the justice system. http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/crime-courts/women-unfairly-treated-by-justice-system-1.1046801?localLinksEnabled=false So while male victimization is probably underreported, female victimization is also underreported and under-prosecuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 01:49 AM
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How have you answered 'my' point a dozen times? I just made it for the first time. I understand your point, and it is wrong for the reasons I outlined that you are not addressing. You do not get to claim that anger MUST be part of your speech or thoughts, or you are not a misogynist. That's irrational. You can be a misogynist and make hate-filled speech without feeling 'hatred' as you are interpreting the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 01:26 AM
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I mean that TRPers have issues. Psychologically. Mentally because the entire premise is based on faulty reasoning and male superiority. Therapy would seem to be a good place to unpack why someone feels that their genitals alone make them superior to other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 01:25 AM
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So the DOJ is full of shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 01:16 AM
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Can you see how thinking that women are inferior in some respects doesn't mean that we hate women? No. The very nature of your superiority complex is the reason we believe your speech to be demeaning, malicious, and hateful towards women. Even if you don't feel 'anger' towards women, your opinion that women are inferior is harmful to women and is misogynistic in nature because it devalues all women without cause. If I say, all men are inferior to me, that is a misandrist comment. Even if I truly…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 01:14 AM
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Right and here's where they veer off course. Something is not working for X person, so this Y strategy will definitely work for unrelated Z person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 12:27 AM
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I guess that makes sense if you believe all women are manipulative - wait they teach that at TRP don't they? No wonder so many men think it. If there was a possibility of getting another wholly separate mother, it might be comparable. Considering that people date completely different people but have only one mother (usually), not exactly the same situation. ETA: your experience with one dating partner is not going to be the same as your experience with the next unless YOU make it the same. If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 12:26 AM
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Yeah not trying to sound insensitive to their plight, but there are a lot of other places to go to get advice on females other than the Red Pill. It's like burning down a village because you lost your shoe. A slight overreaction. Women engage in manipulative behavior all the time. That's why there's therapy and breakups. Either work it out or move on. No need to learn how to become a master manipulator yourself and game unsuspecting women that you now believe are inferior to you because you swal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 12:17 AM
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I'm sitting here re-evaluating my previous definition of intelligence because this thread has hijacked that word and completely distorted and destroyed the meaning. TRP is the antithesis of intelligent, rational dialogue or discourse. There are just more men that have given it more thought and thus have commandeered pseudo-intellectual language to package it so they can convince the unwitting masses that it's not complete and utter tripe. It's all about the packaging, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 11:31 PM
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Characteristics of a healthy relationship: Honesty, commitment, compassion, mutual respect, good communication, willingness to compromise, fidelity, ability to disagree without tearing each other down, random acts of love, active and fulfilling sex life, etc. Characteristics of an UNhealthy relationship: emotional manipulation, cheating, screaming, ignoring your partner's feelings and/or concerns, refusing to communicate, thinking only your thoughts and feelings matter, forcing separation when y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 11:24 PM
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The quote you posted explains why it's inflated. There is absolutely no way you could find me objectively more stupid than TRP unless you are just completely devoid of rational thought (which is not something I've completely ruled out as a possibility). I created a successful 6 figure business at the age of 25, and I am extremely eloquent and well spoken. So while that was a cute attempt at an ad hom, not really impressed. Yes the pay gap. I get that it doesn't affect you so you have difficulty …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 11:10 PM
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Also, it's hot when my husband is good to our dogs. So get a dog and be nice to it. You'll get the girls without having to be a macho chump! Problem solved! Let me guess, only "Alpha" men can get girls using dogs. LOL LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 11:02 PM
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Truuuu. But seriously, don't you know that Michelangelo got ALL the girls? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 11:01 PM
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not look like a weak little shitter in her eyes. But you're cool with looking VERY rape-y since she legit doesn't want to but is doing it just to placate your need for manhood validation. Just hit me with anything, Hmm okay. I think it's hot when my husband takes care of our son and is really good with him. Like, they will go out and play outside together and I just think it's really attractive when my husband is so into being a good dad and taking care of his son. Or I also think it's hot when …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:49 PM
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Women consistently and cross-culturally across all age-groups report attraction to men who are successful. Nope. As I already mentioned previously (possibly to someone else), we're not just going to change the definition of hypergamy to include "all times that people date good looking or successful people." The person MUST OBJECTIVELY be of a higher 'status' than her or it does not matter. Also, the 81% of marriages is an inflated number that is influenced by the fact that women were not able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:43 PM
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However, if she says no but still keeps being receptive or smiles or if she uses her hands but only lightly while still remaining receptive or even escalating slightly herself, she is just trying to avoid the urge to fuck. This could also very easily be an, "I really like this guy but I don't want to sleep with him because I don't know him that well. But I want to keep flirting so he knows I'm interested and will ask me out again." "Why, do tell! I'd love to hear these ways that are no doubt ama…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:28 PM
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Hello. I just made this account like yesterday, but it's because this is the first time I've ever posted on Reddit. I probably would agree with The_Mermaid though so I'm okay with you continuing to think I am that person. Men do not chose to marry women more attractive than they are. I disagree. It is much more common for a man to marry a more attractive woman than the other way around. they usually don't offer commitment at all. This has nothing to do with it. This is about mate selection. Just…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:24 PM
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"it has nothing to do with "providing for themselves", it has to do with the man's relative status vis a vis both other men and herself." Actually, according to the definition, it has everything to do with trying to find a 'provider.' I don't think you even know what it is if you think differently. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergamy Studies of heterosexual mate selection in dozens of countries around the world have found men and women report prioritizing different traits when it comes to cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:17 PM
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Most girls just use it to clear themselves of agency. How do you know this? Of course that involves reading her body language for when she actually doesn't want it. My bet is that, 'actually doesn't want it' and 'clearing themselves of agency' looks very similar. How would you know the difference? In fact, I think the idea that women just want to be fucked by a random dude on the first date is so not representative of most women that it's crazy you think it's something most women are comfortable…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:04 PM
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Want me to post another definition back to you? The point is that the trend is that more and more women are not marrying higher status. By taking a very narrow view, you only see the women that still look at hypergamy as a means to an end, but it's not a trend. If anything, truly 'evolved' men are going to be looking at how to capitalize on the new empowered female that is becoming the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:58 PM
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except perhaps that you consider any girl who sleeps with a TRPer to be one. I consider any man that treats a woman like total shit and refuses to communicate with her and 'spins' her like a plate to be emotional abusive unless she likes it I guess. But no I don't think everyone who sleeps with a Terper is physically abused. I think the 'sexual strategy' touted by TRP is emotionally abusive though. So women want to sleep with guys who have some kind of higher motive besides getting laid? Well ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:56 PM
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I am new, but I do know enough to make the very valid argument that hypergamy is not a trend (if anything the opposite is a trend, thanks feminism), AWALT is stupid (even in the sense that exceptions are not the norm...the "exceptions" are the norm because they're, in fact, not exceptions), and that TRP is misogynistic tripe. I am qualified to speak on all of those topics, and I don't need be a TRP dictionary in order to do it effectively. It's baffling that you think me reading one subreddit is…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:43 PM
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I understand that you think I don't understand what AWALT means, but I do understand. Do I think all of the TRPers understand that it means exceptions don't count? Yeah probably. You'd have to be stupid as fuck not to realize that there are not exceptions to human behavior, and do not get it twisted, some Red Pill men DO believe there are no exceptions. AWALT is really not that difficult a concept. "First and foremost, AWALT is the insistence that exceptions do not define the norm." Even if it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:38 PM
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You pretty much summed up my response any time I read /r/TheRedPill/.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:36 PM
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I think there are certain tenets of TRP that could help men - like being confident, taking good care of yourself, etc. But then there are parts that totally negate any value it could bring to men - like LMR strategy. Using that is almost always going to end in a rape-y scenario in which the woman feels pressured into sex. That is not the strategy men of any level of attractiveness should use to get a woman into bed. An enthusiastic yes should be what you're looking for, not an "Ok I guess but on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:33 PM
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I live to entertain. I know what shit-tests and plates are. Fuzzy on hamstering and threat point. What is an RP EC? AWALT is a stupid concept created by idiotic men that want to be able to look at a 'trend' and say 'see this applies to all women!' If we treat women like X, it will yield Y result 98% of the time. Oh didn't work for you? Doesn't mean there's not a 'trend.' It's like me saying AMALT - men are shallow, one-dimensional cads who are incapable of understanding basic ideas about women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:27 PM
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No I didn't, haha! I went over to RPW once and literally just was like..no I can't and had to leave. I've never been back because it's just too much for me. I don't know how to process it. Do you all have a lot of RPW's here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:10 PM
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Hey M_rafay, here's the problem with you believing you disproved anything. You didn't. I am not arguing something that TRP doesn't fully support, which is AWALT. Until you grasp that, please sit this one out so I can talk to people who have just a tiny bit more sense than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:07 PM
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I suppose that's a scenario I hadn't considered. I hadn't thought of it like that. I guess I just assume that a fit, attractive guy wouldn't need to use these tactics to get a girl. In fact, I really know that's the case. It would seem like at some point, a truly attractive guy would disengage from TRP because they literally would not need it. Maybe that's not the case though?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:06 PM
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Did...did you just deny that AWALT is an actual tenet of Red Pill philosophy in the other thread? LOL STRAWMAN!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:03 PM
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A.W.A.L.T. Heard of it, Red Pill dude? Checkmate dolt! Also, here's an idea, get the hell off the thread I started if you're sick of responding to me. Fool. I'll leave when I'm ready. You'll find out REALLY quick that I'm not one of those little ladies you can order around like a dog. You get off my thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:02 PM
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What guy? Would you Red Pillers please STOP attributing the faulty AWALT logic to ME. It's fucking ridiculous. Stop saying that I am the one that created the logic that "AWALT." That IS the Red Pill. Are you even Red Pill? Because if not, why are you responding to this question? I'm starting to think all the ones that are like "LOL STRAWMAN! AWALT is an AlphaFemale9 invention!" are either not Red Pillers or Red Pillers are as dumb as I've always thought they were. It has to be one or the other. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:00 PM
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I have no idea what you're responding to, but no, I'm not and have never been ditzy. If anything, you are so obtuse that I have had to dumb it WAY down to try to get you to understand the very general and basic points I've been making. That's my guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:54 PM
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What we're saying is that it betrays some of your values and makes you quite hypocritical in others. Not really. It's like noticing that someone has a mole on their cheek. Noticing that a lot of TRP'ers happen to behave in a certain way and have certain traits is not inherently negative. TRPers think it's negative which is why they are so bothered by TBPers who 'mock' those aspects of themselves. Then this post is not aimed at you. I'm just saying that not all TBPers think like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:51 PM
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Ugh fine. Apparently you're just verbose and do want to have a debate. I'll bite on this. You'll be the only one having a seat, though. They weren't feminists THEN became models. You notice that right? You could not have made a more irrelevant point if you tried to make it more irrelevant. It doesn't matter who they were/are before they 'became' feminist (which means realizing that they are for female equality..it's not a revolutionary thought process). There is not a before and after feminist..…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:47 PM
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This is a revolutionary concept to someone like you, I know, but some women don't evaluate their man based on his supposed 'status.' When they talk about not being able to find a man, they could mean, "I can't find a man that makes me laugh." "I can't find a man that makes me feel the warm and fuzzies." "I can't find a man that I think is really attractive and has the other qualities I'm looking for in a man like sense of humor, good with kids, happy go lucky, down to earth, whatever else it may…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:32 PM
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So your argument is that this one woman who no one has ever heard of speaks for all women? You're the dense one. What she means is she can't find a man that she connects with personally. It's a pity you're incapable of understanding the English language.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:23 PM
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I am unashamedly blue pill, and loser virgins are not who I envision when I think of TRP. I think of macho men without very much intellect and definitely without any compassion. On a scale of attractiveness, in my mind I rate a TRP on a scale of about 6-7 just by default because they obsess over fitness, but I get the feeling most of them are not that attractive in the face or they wouldn't be seeking TRP for guidance on how to get girls. When I think of the people you're describing, I actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:11 PM
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What is this supposed to prove?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:48 PM
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A brilliant and insightful former rpw mod wrote about this I just can't with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:47 PM
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And what exactly is female sexual strategy? Tip: My guess is that it would be just as non-universal as TRP is not universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:46 PM
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Men are not ATTRACTED by either female status vis a vis other people nor them being of higher status vis a vis themselves. This ignores the fact that women are given status in society based on their looks. men are attracted to hot women irrespective of any status. No. The attractive features create the status. That's why you see attractive women gaining money, fame, and acclaim for NO REASON other than their looks. Also, prior to the induction of women into the workforce, women were traded and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:45 PM
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What am I watching?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:40 PM
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Victim blaming is a pretty heinous offense to me. Sensing hostility? That's probably why. The type of man that would blame someone for being abused is the type of man I have no time for. If you are one of those men, consider this more than a basic disagreement. We have no reason to continue communicating. There are some things I can 'debate' on and blaming abuse victims for their plight is NOT one of them. And I've already said multiple times that high self esteem women do not go for TRPers (no …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:38 PM
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"No it's not." It very truly is. What does AWALT mean to you? I'm repeating back what Terpers say. Stop attributing this clearly faulty logic to me. The only general trend is that TRPers have very little understanding of women in general. That is a trend I actually see manifesting all over this thread and the Red Pill thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:33 PM
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Who is a lesbian?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:13 PM
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beta guys by definition are not the ones that keep the girl. False. Beta guys are the ones women actually want. New age women don't want a man that's going to stomp around the house like a heathen and pretend he's in charge because he has a penis. The very sexist take on male/female relationships that TRP takes is on the way out, fortunately. Most women realize that having a partner that is equal to them and VIEWS them as an equal is preferable to one of these men that thinks he's God's gift to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:13 PM
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Because men date/marry down, women date/marry up. DUH. Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:10 PM
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This is why feminists are lonely as fuck. Not physically attractive and feminine at all. False. TRP men are just hysterical about feminism, and they create these crazy delusions in their mind to justify their hatred of women and feminism. I'm sure that Emma Watson, while dating Prince Harry, is doing just fine and is not lonely as fuck. Would probably be debatable that she's not attractive or feminine at all, too, since she's dating a prince. How about Taylor Swift? Gorgeous, successful, it's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:09 PM
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Are these women that are supposedly being taken advantage of, not individuals who are responsible for their actions and able to make decisions for themselves? That's like saying a kicked kitten has agency just like a regular protected kitten. These women have been thrown to the metaphorical wolves (i.e. the alpha man), and I've seen the negative effects these types of abusive men have on the female pscyhe. If they are, why is it the man's fault that they slept with him? The "man" in this case is…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:01 PM
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I don't think you understand what hypergamy is. I do, in fact. TRP is amoral, but TRP says that men what youthful, good looking women with nice bodies. This is not hypergamy. Good looking women are of a higher status in society than unattractive women. If you need confirmation, think of how someone reacts to a 300 lb. woman like Rosie O'Donnel vs. how they respond to a Victoria's secret model. There is literally nothing that you can do or say that will make the rest of us thinking beings suspend…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:56 PM
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Yea that's the usual absolutist argument, taking "women won't marry down" as a statement meant to be 100% true for every woman ever. Yes that's what TRP argues - an absolutist philosophy about women which is the only reason it would even be practiced as a philosophy and AWALT is the entire basis of it. It's meant to describe a general trend and therefore what you can expect. It's meant to describe whatever a TRPer decides it's meant to describe. Most TRPers believe it describes all even though r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:53 PM
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ATRPALT? Sigh. All TRPers are like a lot of things. They need collective and individual therapy to work through the myriad of issues that are going clearly unaddressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:50 PM
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oprah and steadman never married Personal preference in this example is irrelevant. She didn't LTR across or up and hasn't practiced hypergamy since becoming in the top 10 most powerful people on the planet. Point proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:48 PM
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I know what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:48 PM
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Humans are capable of better reasoning and more advanced thought than primates. Humans are mammals like rats too. Is a comparison of behavior between humans and rats accurate? Only in a very rare circumstance like an actual biological imperative - acquiring food. Not in 'hypergamy' which is not a biological imperative, but a social construct used for sexual manipulation by otherwise lacking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:47 PM
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female looks have nothing to do with status as contemplated by the concept hypergamy. Female looks have everything to do with a woman's status in this society and in all past societies, but good try. I mean not even attempting a reasoned debate are you? Just a "hey this clear fact of reality is false because I say it's false!" Yeah ok. "When a man trades in a woman for a better looking woman it not hypergamy." That's exactly what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:46 PM
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Virtually every culture behaves the same way with the same sexual power dynamics. It is not up for opinion or debate, it is fact. Wrong. The only thing not up for opinion or debate is that many women don't practice this. Someone posted a figure of 20% of women make more than their husband right now (and that number is on the rise), so we can deduce even from that low number which does not take into account unmarried women and all sorts of other women, that at least 1/5th of the women in the worl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:44 PM
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They make no sense whatsoever, are not in any way based on reality and in fact require one to actually ignore very obvious contradictions in the world around them. So true. TRP men must just practice complete suspension of reality to even believe this tripe on a small scale. It really does go far beyond mere "NAWALT" at this point. PREACH.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:42 PM
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To like 20% couples having a female who earns more in the US. This figure includes men who are unemployed. You're selling the picture awfully short. By your own admission, 20% of women are not hypergamous and that number is on the rise. That also doesn't count ALL of the women that are unmarried, dating, etc. So again, hypergamy is not a biological imperative - the entire point of my post. Glad you agree. Also, expect that number to continue to rise and with it an inverse relationship in the lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:40 PM
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My last girlfriend was a 33yo senior regional manager for Toyota with her shit thoroughly together. Not only did she have an overabundance of self-esteem, she was not a naturally submissive person by any means. I played her like Pacman. One time I dated this "Alpha" dude that thought he could get away with treating me like a plate. That lasted about a week before I dropped his ass to go find a better man, e.g., someone who would be classified a 'beta' by people like you. The game didn't work on …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:29 PM
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Basically you pretend probabalistic generalizations are absolutes in order to pretend like you have a point. You're hilarious. I realize that there are truly jarring parts of your philosophy that don't add up nor make sense, but please don't attribute your faulty logic to me. I'm repeating what has been said by TRPers. I certainly didn't come up with this nonsense myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:27 PM
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To refute a trend, you point to an exception and claim victory. First of all, TRP does not claim that hypergamy in women is a 'trend.' It claims that it's a biological imperative. Since the claim is that all women are hypergamous, it is easy to refute. So yes it is a victory. Glad you figured that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:26 PM
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You really believe that men are affected by IPV nearly as much as women don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:24 PM
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Is it unfair to suggest that female sexuality may be similarly aesthetically-inclined towards certain features in males for similarly biological reasons? No but that's not what hypergamy is. If the TRP philosophy contended that women went for the best LOOKING mate they could find, well then duh yes I can see where the thought process is behind that (but even then, women still marry men less attractive than they are all the time). However, the TRP philosophy is that women ALWAYS without fail marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:21 PM
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This is just misleading. The actual figures are as follows: (figures from US Department of Justice) Women - Women account for two out of three murder victims killed by an intimate partner. The number of women killed by an intimate partner fell from 43% in 1980 to 38% in 1995, but rose to 45% in 2008. Men - The number of men killed by an intimate partner fell from 10.4% in 1980 to 4.98% in 2008. There is absolutely no way that intimate partner violence against men is even similar in frequency and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:36 AM
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It's utter nonsense to someone like you because you have a narrow idea of male and female identity and power dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:21 AM
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I don't drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:20 AM
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If you think comparing humans to primates proves a point, you are wrong. I'll still address your points though. "Female hypergamy is probably biological." I think it is environmental due to the fact that the preponderance of it is dropping as women are more easily able to access resources without having to rely on their husband as a provider. Hypergamy has diminished substantially over the last decade for this reason. "If you are a smaller, weaker creature with less aggression, you will look for…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:19 AM
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Yes on the male hypergamy analogy. Agreed. I don't know how to properly quote on Reddit so I'm probably doing this wrong, but: "But I think the point about the RP emphasis on female hypergamy is that women in general skew more towards hypergamic behaviour on average" Yeah but I think there's a reason for that, which is that women are still gaining the ability to acquire resources for themselves in the workforce. Women were JUST able to begin accessing resources and creating financial stability f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:10 AM
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How many men are killed at the hands of their intimate female partner? Now, how many women are killed at the hands of their intimate male partner? IPV of women on men exists, but is very rare in comparison to the very common male on female intimate partner violence. Both are important to discuss, but females are at much more risk physically from men than men from women. I really don't know what you're talking about as far as traits to look for in dangerous women, which I guess supports your poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:02 AM
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What would the 'middle ground' be for me? I believe in female empowerment and equality. If you can't understand that TRP is the antithesis of that, then I'm not sure what to do for you. Figure it out and you might understand the hostility. Obviously you think it's worth it to respond because you did. If you don't want to hear my perspective, there are other threads. RP does poison men. Every tenant of red pill philosophy is rooted in female inferiority or male superiority or sexual manipulation …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:58 AM
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Sex because he's nothing like you...yeah I'm sure he'll be thanking you for showing me why he was such an amazing catch. I'll let him know that you Red Pill men make him look so good in comparison that he is completely irresistible to me. Shouldn't you be spinning a plate right about now? Goodnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:54 AM
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If a girl says no at all in a scenario where you are becoming intimate, any self respecting man is going to let that be and back off because most men want an enthusiastic yes and a partner that is more than willing to do the deed with them. If you have to coerce or cajole a woman into sleeping with you, can you honestly not see why that is not true consent? Your definition of LMR is very narrow. In practice, it's probably not as black and white as 'she changes her mind completely and says a stro…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:48 AM
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Also, I call into question 'respected' if she's writing tripe in support of TRP. Respected by whom exactly? TRP men? Not a source I trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:40 AM
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I don't care who she is. She doesn't know more about how I personally love anyone than I do. Each and every woman loves differently and is unique. No matter what the "Biological Anthropologist" has to say; she does not speak for me or any other woman that feels differently than she describes. Women that support Red Pill philosophy are a special bunch, and to say they don't speak for the majority of women is a vast understatement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:39 AM
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I'm always interested to hear men tell me about my 'biological' drive. Do continue. You're just itching to ruin another good man, aren't you? You've ruined enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:29 AM
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And Helen Fisher is more of an expert on how I personally love a man than I am because...?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:20 AM
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I'm not anyone's first mate. And he knows about you. We've discussed TRP. He thinks you TRPers either have mommy issues or girlfriend/fiance/wife issues, which has given you completely screwed up ideas about relationships and women in general. He's very insightful because that's absolutely what most TRPers admit to being the case. And LOL at you getting him on the right track. If anything, I should send him to you to get YOU on the right track.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:10 AM
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I see this happening all the time. Young, vulnerable, broken-hearted boy doesn't know why he lost the girl, and seeks out advice from what he believes are well intentioned men. Then, those men poison his mind with half truths and uninformed ramblings and fake 'field reports' so that the young man who was once just a broken hearted boy looking for answers becomes a cynical, cruel, heartless man incapable of looking at a woman as an actual human being anymore. You start to believe that women are p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:06 AM
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You didn't answer anything about evidence. You just posted more opinions, all of which I would like you to explain further. You say men love better and are more romantic, yet you don't explain how or why. I ask you for evidence, you say you've already given it. I wasn't asking you to tell me that empirical and anecdotal evidence exist. I was asking you to tell me what the evidence is. What is the evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:00 AM
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You really have no idea about my husband's status, though, do you? Not as much insight as, say, I would have on the matter. But then again, I forget, TRP know what women think and what women experience MUCH better than women could know any such thing. Lol. It has nothing to do with cleverness and 100% to do with the fact that I'm not attracted to men that think they need to dominate me in order to feel like a man. I also have absolutely no time for a man that thinks because he was born with male…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:57 AM
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Discrete just seems like an obscure word to use in that context, even though the dictionary definition is accurate. Discrete is typically used in scientific settings, and I was misreading it anyway to be discreet because that's the version of the word that is most often used. So on a perfunctory reading, I kept stumbling over it when I was trying to ascertain what your point was with those bullets. But ANYWAY, moving on, back to what I originally said. My initial post is referring to a specific …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:53 AM
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I don't think women are told that all men are potential rapists, although that IS what people like that Roosh and other Red Pill men say that women should believe. Like they should never be in a room alone with a man, thus reinforcing the stereotype that men are dangerous by nature and cannot control themselves. I certainly never grew up thinking men were dangerous. I was too trusting of men because I had a good father and didn't realize men could be bad until I went to college. Women are taught…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:38 AM
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Sure. Anything that will reinforce your misguided belief system. My initial response didn't satisfy because it doesn't fit your narrative, but it is actually the truth. Red Pill game wouldn't work on me. I'm married and no amount of waving a hot guy in front of my face is going to make me branch swing from my attractive mate (who was not of a higher status than me when I married him btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:31 AM
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ok I think part of the confusion is that you say they are discrete traits (as in 'under wraps') when I think you mean distinct traits (as in 'different from one another'). You haven't corrected it in every subsequent reposting and honestly it kind of makes the entire point you're trying to make confusing. I don't relate hypergamy to only cheating on an LTR. I think of it as a variety of different scenarios which could include any of the following: -Casually dating multiple men but attempting to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:25 AM
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I haven't discussed cheating or fidelity, but bye?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:20 AM
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I'm just going to repost this because you didn't answer it: How do you know this? Empirical evidence? Anecdotal experience? Are you a woman? How are men different? Why do you believe they are more 'romantic?' "Understanding this is part of TRP." I know. That's why I'm trying to illustrate why it's wrong because it's the premise of the entire 'philosophy.'
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:19 AM
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Where did I say RP said a woman cannot be faithful? You guys just talk and talk. It doesn't have to make sense. That's what I've realized. Just throw words together and hit save and if they make sense and others agree, weeeee, and if they don't, hopefully no one notices right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:16 AM
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You are reading way too much into it. I quoted you to let you know I was responding to that specific part of your post. I disagree with you that 'some' TRP men look down on career-oriented women. I think it's more like 98%, with the other 2% neutral, from the posts I've read. If you go to the Red Pill reddit, you can see where most of my negative biases on this topic have been formed. Or maybe you don't see it? I don't know. Maybe you think it's normal to talk about women the way they do. You ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:15 AM
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If I was going to be a completely different person and just try to have sex for the sake of having sex (which I wouldn't do because disease and stuff), then I would choose someone that seemed like they would be good in bed and was very attractive. If I was going to LTR (and I'm married so been there done that), I would choose someone that made me laugh, that I got along with, that I thought was attractive, that complemented me (not to be confused with complimented), and that demonstrated his lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:06 AM
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How do you know this? Empirical evidence? Anecdotal experience? Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:04 AM
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I'm stating two things, and one of them is that not all women are hypergamous. The fact that men are hypergamous is just obvious, but surprisingly, most RP men not on the purple pill debate argued just the opposite - that men do not practice hypergamy. It's interesting the different response you get when the forum is designed around debate, and men aren't just trying to deny they do it based on principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:03 AM
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Uh what? The only quotes I posted from you were from your post. The quotes at the bottom were from the blog I linked to. What did I correct? We're saying the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:01 AM
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Um. It's not a cherry pick, and this isn't the only place I read it. This is ONE of the places I read it. The first quote I read on it said that women are not capable of 'true love' which is what my original post states. The blog I linked to says that women are not capable of 'true love' even though the words true love aren't used. The argument is clear. I'm not going to entertain your obtuse line of reasoning. Either respond to my thoughts without trying to play the semantics game, or run along…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:59 AM
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Oprah is more successful than almost any man on the planet. If she was hypergamous, she would have left his ass for a more high status male PERIOD. You're wrong on all counts. Tom Brady is successful, but she is more successful than him. You guys just say whatever you want, it doesn't have to make sense. He NEVER had more money than her, ever. He does not have a higher status than her. She was already just as if not more well known worldwide than him before they ever met. You don't get to just i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:57 AM
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"Women are incapable of loving men in a way that a man idealizes is possible, in a way he thinks she should be capable of." "Women are utterly incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved." Literally the words "incapable of loving" are in the article TWICE that I saw when I quickly skimmed it. Did you even read it? The entire argument is that women are not capable of TRUE love and loving men in a way they think they deserve or something. It's all very whiny and narcissisti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:51 AM
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What does this have to do with it? I don't like just sleeping with people randomly so I would sleep with the same person I would LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:48 AM
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Who cares if she's married? That's not even relevant. The point is that Oprah did not LTR across or up. The point is not that Brady is not successful; it's that he's not more successful than she is. She has a lot more money than him, so unless we just evaluate a man's 'social status' based on 'feelz' that can't be quantified or objectively discussed, then you know she's the more successful of the two in her career thus invalidating any exclusive argument that all women are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:45 AM
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They said it. Here's a link: http://therationalmale.com/2011/12/27/women-in-love/ "Women are incapable of loving men in a way that a man idealizes is possible, in a way he thinks she should be capable of." "Men have been, and should be, the more dominant gender, not because of some imagined divine right or physical prowess, but because on some rudimentary psychological level we ought to realized that a woman’s love is contingent upon our capacity to maintain that love in spite of a woman’s hyper…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:40 AM
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"some TRPers definitely do." Most TRPers do. So if you believe that hypergamy is in fact not a biological imperative or something practiced by all females, then do you also believe that TRP sexual strategy works on all of these different types of females or just the first set, the ones that "don't do hypergamy and don't provide" and the third set "who do hypergamy and aren't financially independent?" By admission, you agree that not all women are hypergamous, which is what I'm saying. So ironica…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:39 AM
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Actually, TRP theory states that women never do it so it's REALLY easy to disprove. I've already provided 2 examples of high status females Gisele Bundchen and Oprah who definitely did not marry across or up. Gisele is much wealthier than Tom Brady, and he does not 'provide' for her. She is also a world famous super model and marrying him did not give her status in any way. Oprah - that one is self explanatory. Any sexual strategy can work. I'm not giving it any more credit than I would give bar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:30 AM
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My real problem with the whole thing is that believing that requires complete suspension of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:24 AM
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Is it really a 'biological' imperative if it doesn't apply to all women? This "women are biologically predisposed to X" is what I have a problem with because it implies that ALL women are hypergamous (we're not), while most men are not hypergamous (debatable).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:22 AM
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"Women marry across or up, never down." This is not even slightly true across the board. In what way is Oprah's husband 'across' or 'up' from her in social status? We could even argue about a couple like Tom Brady and Gisele Bundchen (I'm mentioning them because they're famous, and everyone knows who they are). In all respects, she is above him. Attractiveness, her career, her wealth, her 'status' as one of the most successful super models of all time. Even though he is also successful, he is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:18 AM
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Actually, I've talked to some of them before, and if you think they think that men engage in hypergamy, I'm not sure which ones you're talking to, but I don't think they're the mainstream ones. They don't think that. There is an entire blog dedicated to why women are incapable of love DUE TO hypergamy, and how men are the only ones capable of love (indicating men apparently don't engage in hypergamy). The problem with discussing the RP is that there are probably people with differing beliefs, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:10 AM
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As far as I know, hypergamy is the basis of most of their hatred for women. From what I've read, they believe that since women engage in hypergamy they are incapable of 'true love' (<--- direct quote) and should therefore be used like objects and subjugated by their 'Alpha' man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:57 AM
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Well here's the problem with a belief that women will never marry a man with lower "SMV" than them, it's completely false. Women marry men that are less attractive than they are all the time (and career oriented women will marry men that don't have as 'high' of a 'status' as they do in business, too). I mean you would have to live in an alternate universe to make that argument. The last 3 sentences of my second paragraph are an anti-TRP rant. The first 2/3rds of the paragraph make other points r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:49 AM
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