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Edit the message to include paragraphs and I might reply. I'm not reading that wall of text.
/r/BlackPillScience27/10/19 02:07 PM
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I know that, I've read the study. If you look at the vocal pitch part of the study, however: Using voice pitch instead of subjective ratings as an indicator of desirability, the results did not suggest a preference for overall psychopathy. Post hoc exploratory analyses did, however, suggest affective traits elicited more interest and antisocial traits less interest based on voice pitch increasing and decreasing, respectively. These are what are considered the affective traits of psychopathy: (su…
/r/BlackPillScience27/10/19 10:23 AM
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constellation of POSITIVE traits that psychopaths have that non-psychopaths can also possess too, such as charm, etc.? That was the researchers main hypothesis; that psychopathy "exploits" female mate choice via mimicry of positive traits: We first formulate a plausible evolutionary function, the sexual exploitation hypothesis, that proposes psychopathy exhibits “special design” features for subverting female mate choice, facilitating the induction of favorable impressions and desire in prospect…
/r/BlackPillScience06/09/19 10:31 AM
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They controlled for physical attractiveness (facial and bodily attractiveness) by sorting the men into different categories based on the judgements of a group of 11 raters ( 7 women, 4 men) blind to the purpose of the study.
/r/BlackPillScience02/09/19 09:10 PM
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According to the study: Psychopathic traits were assessed with the Self-Report Psychopathy scale (SRP 4; Paulhus et al. 2016), a 64-item measure designed for use in nonoffender populations that captures the four-facet structure of psychopathy (Hare et al. 2018). The definition of psychopathy, as defined by the author of the self-report scale used in the study, is divided between four-facets: Interpersonal: Superficial charm, deceit, manipulates others. Affective: Callousness, lack of empathy and…
/r/BlackPillScience02/09/19 06:05 PM
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Key Findings: Method: The first phase relevant to this study had participants viewing a random sample of two dating videos of men that were matched on attractiveness (see section below). Two videos were chosen to provide an analysis of relative attractiveness ratings given by women when comparing two men. Since men were matched on physical attractiveness, differences in ratings across the two videos shown may be due to interactional style attractiveness (i.e., how desirable the men are appearing…
/r/BlackPillScience02/09/19 04:44 PM
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The women in the study were young (study one mean age = 23.52, study two mean age = 24.21). The studies were done over a fairly small period of time (4 years for study one), so any secular increase in obesity rates would have been inconsequential on the authors findings. They found while women that gave birth generally experienced a drop in libido , this was a smaller effect than the effect of the length of the relationship on libido (controlling for post-natal stress and depression). Women that…
/r/BlackPillScience02/09/19 11:11 AM
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Unfortunately no. They only investigated recently married couples. Would have been a better study if they did attempt to replicate that interesting finding from Klusmann 2006 that showed only a slight decline in sexual drive for women not cohabitating with their partners, by including a non-married cohort of couples. Also Klusmann also found a lower decline in sexual drive for women in hypergamous relationships, where the male partner had a higher level of education.
/r/BlackPillScience02/09/19 10:49 AM
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Key findings: *Preference for high heels correlated with female self-perceived attractiveness. (r = 0.20) *Shorter body height correlated with preferences for high heels. (−0.11, weak negative correlation between greater body height and high heel use). *High heels were most preferred in interaction with an attractive male. *High heels were least preferred in interaction with an unattractive male. The use of high heels was very strongly enhanced when females imagined interacting with an attractiv…
/r/BlackPillScience01/09/19 08:59 PM
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The researchers defined it as "physical or social aggression". Specifically: Teachers completed a modified version of the CSBS-T (Crick, 1996), which assesses relational aggression, physical aggression, and prosocial behavior Social Aggression was defined as: Three social aggression items were similar to the relational aggression items on the original CSBS-T: (a) “ignores people or stops talking to them when he/she is mad at them”, (b) “gossips or spreads rumors about people to make other studen…
/r/BlackPillScience01/09/19 08:32 PM
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Abstract: This study examined the relations between facial attractiveness, aggression, and popularity in adolescence to determine whether facial attractiveness would buffer against the negative effects of aggression on popularity. We collected ratings of facial attractiveness from standardized photographs, and teachers provided information on adolescents' social aggression, physical aggression, and popularity for 143 seventh graders (70 girls). Regression analyses indicated that facial attractiv…
/r/BlackPillScience01/09/19 08:28 PM
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Key findings: "We find that men are more supportive of Islamic veiling than women, but women with more sons are more supportive of veiling and more likely to wear veils than women with fewer sons. All effects were robust to the inclusion of religiosity, which was weaker amongst men and unrelated to the number of sons a woman had." "Overall, these findings highlight that far from being the fixed strategy of one sex or the other, female sexual suppression manifests facultatively to promote one’s r…
/r/BlackPillScience01/09/19 07:47 PM
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Quoting the paper: An evolutionary explanation: But the novelty of the current findings lies in the fact that the variability in wives’ sexual desire was such that their desire became systematically lower over time. Indeed, if female sexual desire does serve, at least in part, to help ensure men’s investment, it would need to respond to environmental cues and change quickly. And hormonal and cognitive factors that coincide with such change may be the proximal mechanisms through which such change…
/r/BlackPillScience01/09/19 07:35 PM
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Full Text Abstract: Sex is critical to marriage. Yet, there are several reasons to expect spouses to experience declines in the desire for sex over time, and the rates of any declines in sexual desire may differ for men and women. We used two multi-wave, longitudinal studies to test whether male and female members of newlywed couples experienced different rates of change in sexual desire, whether any such changes were accentuated by childbirth, and whether any such changes had implications for m…
/r/BlackPillScience01/09/19 07:05 PM
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It might be related to the malaria gene where having one of the two indicators is slightly beneficial and having two indicators is bad. For example, schizophrenia affects 1% of the population consistently even though it's an awful disorder. However, having parts of it could mean more creativity? Yes, likely. Similar arguments have been made regarding Autism representing a "failed male sexual strategy" for males. I found this really interesting. Thanks to Tinder, we are in an era of high variance…
/r/BlackPillScience01/09/19 09:45 AM
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It might be a combination of both. Possibly, it certainly shows that such behavior is not maladaptive (at least in modern society). I don't know if dark triad traits are universally beneficial in more violent societies where there are harsh punishments for anti-social behavior (including execution), and monogamy is more strictly enforced. Of course, they probably presented an adaptive trait in some ancestral environments, otherwise they would have likely been eliminated from the gene pool. Onlin…
/r/BlackPillScience31/08/19 09:25 AM
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Was the study also implying females judging the same way? Yeah the abstract was worded using male pronouns, due to the age of the study. They found: The correlation between liking of the date and evaluation of the date's physical attractiveness is .78 for male subjects and .69 for female subjects. Others variables recorded like self-esteem, popularity, nervousness and academic success weren't found to be significantly correlated with the female date's liking of the men. Also 1966 is a very old s…
/r/BlackPillScience31/08/19 08:12 AM
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I agree. The study was 5 minutes interaction during speed dating. If you can pass a threshold for attraction and then display dark triad, you can escalate that attraction for short term mating strategies. You would need longer than 5 minutes for that. Maybe an hour. The Luo & Zhang speed-dating study was centered around 5 minute interactions, but I also linked a blind-dating study with the same general conclusion, and the length of the interaction was far longer, (average of 150 minutes spent on…
/r/BlackPillScience31/08/19 07:25 AM
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All of these traits are very attractive in the short term, especially for a one night stand. The evidence regarding short-term mating appears to suggest that physical attractiveness is the main determinant of attractiveness in short-term mating contexts for both sexes(at least without prior acquaintance between the parties involved). So the greater mating success shown by the Cluster-B males is probably chiefly related to their greater activity levels, lower level of behavioral inhibition etc., …
/r/BlackPillScience31/08/19 06:08 AM
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More evidence of the gender paradox perhaps? Give women greater freedom to choose and they default more towards their biological programming.
/r/BlackPillScience24/08/19 10:28 PM
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The graph in the study seems to show a preference for a man a couple of inches taller for the tall women (over 180cm).
/r/BlackPillScience24/08/19 10:18 PM
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The finding was that the harassment from the younger men was seen as more desirable, probably due to the agepill, and the fact that most of the women in the study were fairly young themselves.
/r/BlackPillScience21/08/19 09:48 PM
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Repost but you selected a better title than I did. Albeit somewhat misleading per the study: The experience of IPV was not a significant predictor of the accuracy of estimates of aggressiveness (aggression-fWHR: β = 0.03; p= 0.52; aggression-actual aggression: β = 0.09, p= 0.07). The experience of IPV, however, significantly influences associations with estimates of attractiveness (attractiveness-fWHR β = -1.14; p= 0.002; attractiveness-actual aggression β= -0.17, p= 0.004) And: Contrary to our …
/r/BlackPillScience20/08/19 02:36 PM
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Btw, partner quality may be a better measure than partner count because the latter obscures effects for high SMV men with high risk aversion or low sex drive. You're probably correct there. There is some evidence that taller men self-report greater relationships satisfaction and less jealously in their relationships. The authors said this (the greater satisfaction) was possibly mediated by the taller men being able to obtain more desirable partners. Physical dominance is probably the most import…
/r/BlackPillScience20/08/19 02:16 PM
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Link to the full study. Sample: The 1,277 remaining participants all reported their gender as female. The majority (87.2%) reported white for their race and heterosexual (74.2%) for their sexual orientation. The mean age of the participants was 28.11 years old(SD=9.29); reported ages ranged from 15 to 71 years old. Method: In order to attract participants to the survey, the researcher and her research assistants posted the link in various web forums; the links advertising the study invited the p…
/r/BlackPillScience20/08/19 11:37 AM
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From Price 2011. Interesting, given that wrist size etc. often scales with height, therefore you would think that taller men generally would have a greater arm circumference and so on. Maybe it's partially the result of shorter men getting buffer to compensate for their lack of stature? perhaps cultural variation? That explanation would go well with this study (often used by bluepillers to claim that the preference for height is mainly culturally influenced) that does indeed to support a partial…
/r/BlackPillScience20/08/19 10:53 AM
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Correlation between height and muscularity is only r = .23* and I think muscularity is more important establishing dominance than height. Is this from the study? How did they define muscularity, lean body mass, FFMI or some other measure? Our lack of detecting a significant effect of body height on mating success converges with previous studies showing a mixture of positive and negative, linear and quadratic associations between height and reproductive success (e.g., Nettle, 2002; Stulp, Pollet,…
/r/BlackPillScience18/08/19 11:59 PM
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Very interesting, thanks for that.
/r/BlackPillScience18/08/19 09:25 PM
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Key phrase is 'reputation for chastity', which is relative, in relation to the sexual mores of the time. https://incels.wiki/w/File:Changes_in_premarital_sex_partners.PNG There doesn't appear to be many 'premarital virgins' in The West these days, despite increasing economic inequality. Is there any reliable evidence of an actual increase in female virginity recently, in contradiction to the graph I linked above, or is it just indicative of general disengagement from the dating market due to hig…
/r/BlackPillScience18/08/19 07:51 PM
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Based and Belfort Bax-pilled.
/r/BlackPillScience18/08/19 07:45 PM
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This had long been known in PUA circles, i.e. 'pre-selection game'. It seems to apply to the females of nearly every species. I wonder if this has been tested in a more naturalistic fashion in humans?
/r/BlackPillScience18/08/19 07:44 PM
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It's interesting that they didn't find a link between egalitarianism and height though, only muscularity and self-perceived attractiveness (which is generally fairly unreliable, correct?)
/r/BlackPillScience18/08/19 07:40 PM
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Not much point taking on the risks of being a criminal when you're already living life on 'easy mode', I guess? It could also be that they manipulate men in doing their 'dirty work' for them, and subsequently have them take the fall for any possible consequences. Small effect sizes though, which is interesting.
/r/BlackPillScience18/08/19 07:35 PM
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Women that have previously been the victims of childhood sexual abuse i.e. 'revictimized women', are not less aware of potentially risky cues regarding their potential sexual partners than other women, and are actually more alert to such risks. But they apparently engage in risky dating behaviors anyway. Specifically, they found that women that had been the victim of IPV (interpersonal violence) rated men with broader faces as more physically attractive than women without such histories. They (t…
/r/BlackPillScience18/08/19 07:24 PM
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Longer ring finger in comparison to the index finger is generally indicative of greater pre-natal T exposure, which this study found was related to the chance of the men being partnered with more attractive women (as measured by their WHR).
/r/BlackPillScience17/08/19 04:18 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digit_ratio
/r/BlackPillScience17/08/19 02:16 AM
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Key findings: 1)Men's prenatal environment may have long-lasting influences on their mating value. 2)Men's 2D:4D may be linked with their actual partners' anthropometric traits. 3)Women partnered with men with lower 2D:4D have significantly narrower waists. (Specifically, the study found: the men with the lower digit ratios, were also four times more often partnered with women who had low WHRs [for right hand digit ratio]). An intriguingly strong effect (IMO), and it's interesting to see the stu…
/r/BlackPillScience17/08/19 02:06 AM
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They also rate them (vegetarians) as less likable, for platonic interactions. I'm guessing we won't see animal's rights organizations chastising women for encouraging men to eat meat; more proof that women are the main promoters (through their mate selection process) of aspects of masculinity they frequently deem 'toxic'.
/r/BlackPillScience17/08/19 01:25 AM
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empathy and testosterone tend to have an inverse relationship Can you cite a study providing proof of that claim, please? I'm not saying this in an accusatory manner, I'm genuinely curious to read such evidence.
/r/BlackPillScience17/08/19 01:11 AM
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They found actual measured strength only correlated moderately with physical attractiveness. So it's not known how much this is down to muscle size, total body size and how much is down to factors like broader clavicles etc. The researchers stated that the strength of this correlation was also likely effected by factors that can contribute to strength, but are detrimental to bodily attractiveness, like excess fat.
/r/BlackPillScience16/08/19 11:47 PM
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Abstract: Financial and pro social biases in favor of attractive adults have been documented in the labor market, in social transactions in everyday life, and in studies involving experimental economic games. According to the taste-based discrimination model developed by economists, attractiveness-related financial and pro social biases are the result of preferences or prejudices similar to those displayed toward members of a particular sex, racial, ethnic, or religious group. Other explanations…
/r/BlackPillScience04/08/19 02:40 AM
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Abstract: Prior research finds that sexually permissive individuals are judged more negatively than non permissive peers, placing them at risk of social isolation. Based on the positive assortment principle (i.e., preferences for similarity in attributes in close relationships), we examined whether participants’ own permissiveness mitigated negative judgments of permissive others in the same-sex friendship context. College students (N=751) evaluated a hypothetical same-sex target with either 2 (…
/r/BlackPillScience04/08/19 01:12 AM
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Congruent with the main thesis of this interesting paper: http://humboldt-dspace.calstate.edu/bitstream/handle/2148/624/ThesisFinal.pdf The authors main argument was that height was/is under strong sexual selection due to increased gender equality: If sexual selection posses the ability to rapidly alter a population’s allele distribution,then human cultural changes that influence sexual selection could lead to shifts in allele frequencies much more rapidly than classical Darwinian evolution theo…
/r/BlackPillScience04/08/19 12:43 AM
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Heritability 50-80% for lean mass and so on. Wow, can you please link a source for that figure, at the upper bounds of that range, that's nearly as heritable as height. Does that figure take interventions (i.e strength training) into account, or is it only in regards to your 'baseline' lean mass? There is plenty of evidence of genetics playing a huge role in how you respond to exercise also, with some even regressing in muscle size from strength training see: https://www.researchgate.net/publica…
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/19 05:45 AM
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My personal hypothesis here is that those advantages are not due to behavior, but due to other traits that enable such behavior - i.e. you have to be attractive and/or otherwise privileged enough for society to enable egoistic and narcissistic behavior from you, and if you are - this attractiveness and status will obviously grant you advantages in dating as well. Yes, I agree that this behavior is an 'honest signal' of such traits in that regard, and require a certain threshold of attractiveness…
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/19 05:04 AM
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Conclusion: Previous studies showed that revictimized women displayed a superior risk recognition and yet they engaged in risky situations, thus potentially increasing their risk for further victimization (Naugle, 1999). The results of our study show that revictimized women indeed have equally good abilities to detect implicit cues of aggression as do non-victimized women. Revictimized women, however, judged all men to be less aggressive. Furthermore, revictimized women with IPV experiences rate…
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/19 02:00 AM
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Is this that selfish, incentive seeking people are actually more attractive, or simply that they accept more partners? There is a fair amount of research that indicates women generally find such behavior attractive in men. See: https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Personality for a good summary of some of these studies. Also not much competition considering they’re being compared here with the other clusters, which are antisocial tendencies. The researchers found type-C (anxious, neurotic)…
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/19 01:13 AM
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Sample: The study sample consisted of 738 outpatients (53.0% female) of mean age 34.1 years (SD 10.9; range 16–74), consecutively referred for personality assessment to the Psychology Service of a general teaching hospital from 2005 to 2009. This study consisted of a sample of both individuals of both sexes. However the authors found these reproductive advantages held by high cluster-B individuals hold true for individuals of both sexes. Among the subjects with the other personality disorders, i…
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/19 12:52 AM
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Abstract: Extreme personality traits in humans often have detrimental life consequences, so they have long been supposed to be diseases. However, many other species display personality variants that are maintained due to their fitness advantages; in this case, they are construed as strategies. To examine the fitness costs and benefits of pathological personality traits in humans, we measured features of the A (socially odd, distrustful), B (incentive-seeking, selfish) and C (fearful, inhibited) …
/r/BlackPillScience01/08/19 11:54 PM
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Study involved rating only pictures of women, NOT men. It was found that the sad faces were rated as less attractive on average. There was no major difference between a happy face and a neutral face (with the neutral face being viewed as slightly more attractive on average.)
/r/BlackPillScience30/07/19 06:44 PM
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Is OP's study actually about females rating male targets? The researchers did a bit of a poor job of clarifying that matter, but it appears that there were no male pictures used in the studies. Stimulus materials. Fifteen white female target persons with a mean age of 20.27 years were recruited on the grounds of the University of Illinois, Chicago, campus to pose for five photos to be used as stimuli in the subsequent experiments. From study number 2: Procedure. The stimulus materials used were …
/r/BlackPillScience30/07/19 06:38 PM
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It may be so, but according to this review of the research: https://www.routledgehandbooks.com/doi/10.4324/9781315282015.ch33 With the exception of studies that rely on participants’ self- reports, or on others’ reports of their behavior, no consistent gender differences in empathy have been observed. This pattern raises the possibility that gender differences in empathy are in the eye of the beholder, and that the beholder is more influenced by gender stereotypes than by empathetic feelings or …
/r/BlackPillScience28/07/19 11:27 PM
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Thus, the results of Experiment 1 showed that female Doms and Subs scored lower than the control group on trait empathy.However, female Switches and male BDSM practitioners did not differ from individuals of the same gender in the control group. Interesting finding that the female 'switches' didn't score lower on empathy.
/r/BlackPillScience28/07/19 11:25 PM
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By adopting the position that the long history of controlling our tastes by associating packaging to contents no different than how golden arches make you hungry for French fries is somehow natural and something you have no control over. You still dodge the question of why ratings of physical attractiveness are quite reliable cross-culturally and cross-racially. Women are graduating more and chasing careers and so are settling down a decade later and it happened just as predicted as the "million…
/r/BlackPillScience26/07/19 08:01 PM
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'Gamma males' is a biological term? I though that terminology was invented by the manosphere? What defines the behaviour of a 'gamma male' chimp?
/r/BlackPillScience26/07/19 06:55 PM
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Do you have the name of the surgeon who performed the operations?
/r/BlackPillScience26/07/19 06:49 PM
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Explain? Are you referring to these kind of methodological flaws in FMRI studies: https://www.wired.com/2009/09/fmrisalmon/
/r/BlackPillScience26/07/19 06:41 PM
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Middle aged married man or woman will cheat, has nothing to do with hormones. For the exact reason, middle aged married men become limp dicks, it's not because of testosterone, it's because they are married. Yes, and it is well known that being in an LTR reduces men's T levels see: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25782185 That would make make men less likely to cheat, no? Lower T usually means lower libido. Saliva sample lmao. From this link:http://clinchem.aaccjnls.org/content/54/11/1759 A …
/r/BlackPillScience26/07/19 06:41 PM
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Abstract: Background: Infidelity in romantic relationships is a common, but severe issue often causing breakup and severe psychological impairment. Higher levels of testosterone are related to mating-behavior, sexual desire, and infidelity in men with sexual dysfunctions. Previous studies, have insufficiently addressed the potential role of testosterone in infidelity in healthy men. Methods: A sample of 224 middle-aged self-reporting healthy men being currently in a relationship completed questi…
/r/BlackPillScience19/07/19 04:19 AM
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Missed the graph, thanks for that. That growth is insane.
/r/BlackPillScience17/07/19 09:45 AM
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Yea you can wisen up and actually have power over the system and your own life or be beholden to it and whine. How was I whining, JFL? Well there we go. It looks like millenials aren't all single at all. It's just like anticipated as women began graduating more and entering careers the age of marriage just got pushed about a decade forward compared to the boomers who all got pregnant and married a like 20. That doesn't change the fact that 28% of young American men are basically incel, it's not …
/r/BlackPillScience17/07/19 03:40 AM
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I think I remember you from your 'distinctive' posting style, you're the Asian guy with the White wife right? Typical of you to reply with a wall of copy-pasted text, involving your various historical tidbits and non-sequiturs. This survey says 24% percent of couples in the U.S met through online dating apps: http://www.unm.edu/~reubenjthomas/onlineexogamy.pdf, it hardly seems 'niche' when you take into account that this figure is most likely much higher among younger people, and this only count…
/r/BlackPillScience17/07/19 02:16 AM
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It's quite likely much of the couples meeting strangers online are employing equally image based social media platforms (Instagram etc.) to do so. It's surprising the number isn't higher though.
/r/BlackPillScience16/07/19 10:32 PM
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There are plenty of other online dating apps out there. Strange that when any of them release any data, it demonstrates that a minority of men get most of the attention from the women using the platform...
/r/BlackPillScience16/07/19 10:26 PM
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The 5'9 figure is all ages and ethnic groups, young white men in the U.S are 5'10 on average, probably taller in urban areas. See: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_03/sr03_039.pdf#page22
/r/BlackPillScience16/07/19 09:20 PM
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The researchers conducted a meta-analysis of brain scanning studies (fMRI) , found there was no difference between men and women in the brain activation patterns ( but there is some variance, based on sexual orientation,) when they actually objectively measure the response in the brain areas involved using fMRI scans instead of relying on subjective self-reported data.
/r/BlackPillScience16/07/19 08:57 PM
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Yeah it's bullshit that 'women aren't as visual as men,' they're just way more selective.
/r/BlackPillScience16/07/19 08:49 PM
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More evidence of the "bodyguard hypothesis", i.e women have been selected to seek physically formidable men to protect them from male violence.
/r/BlackPillScience30/06/19 11:41 PM
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Further evidence of the "bodyguard hypothesis" you think? BTW I'm the one who did that edit on the wiki, I'd be interested if you could link any good studies on the possible connection between male voice depth and mating success?
/r/BlackPillScience30/06/19 11:24 PM
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The study showed no "significant amount of women" preferred weaker men. Therefore, if these "pretty boys" were more physically formidable, they would presumably be even more attractive. The female raters in the study were mostly young women too. It's important to note "perceived strength" and rated bodily attractiveness in this study encompassed height and (most likely, shoulder width) frame as well as musculature. ​ Raters were student volunteers from Griffith University in Australia and Oklaho…
/r/BlackPillScience30/06/19 11:20 PM
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Tee hee.
/r/BlackPillScience18/06/19 11:24 AM
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Neoteny probably plays a role, but I'd wager the main reason men are seen as more 'creepy' then women is because of womens lower disgust threshold, general tendency to see low status/unattractive as a sexual threat (as opposed to men being warmer towards the prospect of sexual relations with a wide spectrum of women) and men seeing 'loners' etc. as potential rivals/threats due to not being part of their coalition.
/r/BlackPillScience18/06/19 11:24 AM
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Confidence and narcissism (excessive self-love) are different, but yes I imagine onlookers (particularly women) often conflate the two. Most people tend to score quite low on psychopathy in the studies I've seen also. Don't know about the prevelance of machiavellianism. The main pioneer of the concept of 'Dark Triad' was the psychologist Delroy L. Paulhus, don't know if he is a 'big nosed circumcised guy'.
/r/BlackPillScience18/06/19 11:14 AM
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Abstract: Tinder is the leading online dating application. This study (N = 271) explored the Dark Triad personality traits (i.e., Machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy) and sociosexuality as correlates of Tinder use. The results revealed that Tinder users had higher scores on the Dark Triad traits and sociosexuality, compared to non-users. Also, Tinder users with higher scores on the Dark Triad traits and sociosexuality significantly showed greater motivation to use Tinder for short-term…
/r/BlackPillScience18/06/19 10:55 AM
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Another idea is to make a youtube account with catfish experiments, make it 'normie friendly' though, (i.e use clickbaity titles, don't say anything that could be construed as misogynist, racist etc.) Good ideas for basic blackpill experimentsto feature would be rich normie vs poor chad, loser NEET depressed low self esteem chad, racepill experiment with white normie vs good looking asian/curry etc.
/r/Chadfish18/06/19 05:09 AM
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Good idea, it would be a good trolling opportunity to show them a bio with a right-wing(MAGA chad) or white nationalist theme, or a 'misogynist' bio. That would make those soyboys heads spin.
/r/Chadfish18/06/19 04:43 AM
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Nah this seems like typical normie 'humor' you'd see on r/tinder. Of course you're correct that any overt sexual display by a low SMV is seen as creepy, however.
/r/Chadfish18/06/19 04:19 AM
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Great post OP , this is one good way incels can fuck over females(ephebophilic chads too, if you're so inclined) in a non violent fashion and do a 'good deed' to boot by the moral standards of society. Some NEET autists with nothing to lose could literally spend all day doing this shit, potentially saving hundreds of poor underage chads from these roasties depredations.
/r/Chadfish18/06/19 03:12 AM
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Chad can be direct, normies have to orbit and portray themselves as good beta providers, incels get excluded. https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/8a3hqw/women_penalize_for_direct_game_on_average_hitsch/
/r/Chadfish18/06/19 03:03 AM
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It makes me think that the 'bluepill' (in the sense of 'personality' taking precedence over all other romantically desirable traits) is a more recent invention, maybe intended (deliberately or not) to pacify men after the sexual revolution unleashed the full hypergamous instincts of females. It even mentions LMS in an Islamic Hadith(in reference to women though, not men), seems to me this knowledge was once more widely accepted.
/r/BlackPillScience04/06/19 09:29 PM
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Not the OP, but yes they examined both sex's preferences.
/r/BlackPillScience04/06/19 09:16 PM
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JFL at the blunt, politically incorrect langauge used in this old study ('ugly subjects'). Skimmed the study, it seems to demonstrate men are equally picky in terms of looks as women( the most attractive women got asked out the most, men didn't prefer to go after women at their own level), when given the opportunity to be so. A decent blackpill, the results (looks are by far the most important determinate of romantic desire, in both sexes;at least in relatively short term encounters) have been r…
/r/BlackPillScience04/06/19 09:14 PM
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Interesting. I've read that a staggering number of young men were estimated to have used/currently are users of anabolic steroids(off the top of my head and ergo probably inaccurate, around 20% of adolescent boys were estimated to have tried anabolic compounds in the U.S laugh), would be interesting the see if/how the use and presumably abuse of these substances has risen over time, probably significantly driven by the rise of the use of dating apps by men. Edit: I was laughably off base with my…
/r/BlackPillScience04/06/19 08:17 PM
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Abstract: The factors influencing human female facial attractiveness—symmetry, averageness, and sexual dimorphism—have been extensively studied. However, recent studies, using improved methodologies, have called into question their evolutionary utility and links with life history. The current studies use a range of approaches to quantify how important these factors actually are in perceiving attractiveness, through the use of novel statistical analyses and by addressing methodological weaknesses…
/r/BlackPillScience04/06/19 07:31 PM
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Yes, there were big pharma corps looking into using Testosterone Enathate as a male contraceptive, but they stopped it because of the societal stigma surrounding steroid use and because they thought most men wouldn't bother to get regular injections. Interestingly, among the Asians they tested it on, Test-E was enough to 100% shut down their spermatogenesis in the vast majority of cases, but Whites often needed progesterone added to the injections to do the trick. Steroids do make most men who t…
/r/BlackPillScience04/06/19 06:32 PM
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Yes, it's quite a stretch to compare soft looksmaxing( and taking such a commonly used supplement like creatine, often taken for general health benefits) with bulemia and anorexia nervosa. Confounds the results of the study heavily.
/r/BlackPillScience04/06/19 06:22 PM
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Yeah, would be interesting if they did a follow up study that accounted for sheer physical mass (frame,muscles, even fat) rather then just height.
/r/BlackPillScience04/06/19 06:16 PM
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Yes, I've read about the theory of 'social defeat' or low status leading to depression. Makes sense from an evo-psych perspective. It seems like another case of a useful evolutionary adaption becoming possibly maladaptive in a modern enviroment, as I can't see the costs of being chronically severely depressed being outweighed by the positives in a less violent modern society where social conflict is less likely to lead to violence. Thank you for the articles, I'll read later.
/r/BlackPillScience14/05/19 05:31 PM
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Oh okay. I just quickly skimmed the study, it does indeed show women as being only slightly more picky then men in looks for short-term mating. It's all self report though, which immediately makes me doubt the reliabilty of the study. The authors themselves mentioned this as a limitation. ​ There's also this to consider: The participants considered themselves relatively desirable as potential mates: Across characteristics, men and women perceived themselves as more desirable than over 60% of the…
/r/BlackPillScience14/05/19 05:10 PM
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Thank you for the reply. Yes, I agree that 'low-inhib' isn't innately attractive, just something you can get away with more if you have certain phenotypic features. Are you saying that psychopaths don't get depressed? It makes sense given their constant need for high levels of stimulation I guess.
/r/BlackPillScience14/05/19 04:13 PM
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Most notably, standards for looks in short-term mating are not significantly different for men and women. You mean the emphasis on looks is the same for both sexes, but women obviously are more picky in terms of the minimum level of looks they require for a short-term relationship, correct?
/r/BlackPillScience14/05/19 03:59 PM
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I was referring more to the secular decline in crime in general and the knock on effects this would therefore have on domestic violence. I agree with the rest of your post, I've read anecdotal reports that wife beaters are considered as bad as child molesters in some prisons. Probably, the entire west will soon have 'femicide' laws like in some european countries mentioned below this post, effectively making women into a legally protected class.
/r/BlackPillScience14/05/19 03:35 PM
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A 1% decrease in voice pitch is associated with a $30 million increase in the size of the firm managed, and in turn, $19 thousand more in annual compensation. That seems frankly insane, more powerful then the effects of facial attractiveness on income in the studies I've read. I know their incomes being much larger then medium wage ones partially accounts for this, but if this study is correct it seems voice is much more important then I thought, at least for commanding respect from men and in a…
/r/BlackPillScience14/05/19 03:23 PM
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It's probably quite predictive of individual outcomes at the tails of the distribution I would think. Similar to the effects of looks on dating outcomes.
/r/BlackPillScience14/05/19 03:13 PM
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Is there really any strong scientific evidence of 'low inhib' being significantly attractive to women in otherwise NT men(apart from the correlation of extraversion and looks, and studies like this one, and the ones studying the mating habits of psychopaths)? I'm curious if you have any studies that elucidate the matter further.
/r/BlackPillScience14/05/19 03:10 PM
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There's plenty on Incel forums, might be misdiagnosed autism instead though.
/r/BlackPillScience14/05/19 03:05 PM
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I knew Spain was cucked as hell, despite it's historical legacy of a culture of machismo, but this is insane. I know this is old news among Manospherian types, but this should be seen as blantant evidence to your average man that the endgoal of feminism is female supremacy, and turning women into a elevated protected class.
/r/BlackPillScience14/05/19 02:55 PM
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Probably partially due to people in general staying inside more often, consuming electronic entertainment, particularly those most disposed to commit violent crimes (i.e young men.)
/r/BlackPillScience14/05/19 02:53 PM
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Typical BS bluepill article from the MSM blaming prolonged adolescence among millenials, widespread availability of electronic entertainment and a supposed new trend of teenage girls taking 'purity pledges' (JFL, despite levels of religiosity being at an all time low, in the U.S and The West in general .) Instead of as mentioned below, increasing hypergamy. Very good find nevertheless, OP.
/r/BlackPillScience07/05/19 12:34 PM
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And high SMV men, I presume.
/r/BlackPillScience07/05/19 04:33 AM
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Yes, it's an interplay of different factors. A good example is Donald Trump, tall, good looking, (when he was young) high FWHR, dark triad personality etc.
/r/BlackPillScience06/05/19 03:14 PM
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There's also some evidence indicating FWHR (facial width to height ratio, proposed to be a measure of facial dominance and formidability) is similarly correlated with corperate success. Monkeys in suits.
/r/BlackPillScience06/05/19 10:58 AM
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If you record yourself having intercourse with a heavily intoxicated woman, you're thereby potentially incriminating yourself (depending on how cucked the jurisdiction you're living in is.)
/r/BlackPillScience06/05/19 09:47 AM
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I have to admit I found this part quite amusing. National surveys show that between 1991 and 2006 there has been an increase in rates of infidelity in all age groups, with the most dramatic rise in the oldest cohort of men (ages 65–90) where a 2–3 fold increase is likely attributable to the introduction of easily accessible treatments for erectile dysfunction. Lifefuel for oldcels?
/r/BlackPillScience04/05/19 10:56 AM
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Abstract In light of the growing unmarried demographic, this study analyzed the extent and determinants of sexual satisfaction among seven relationship-status groups: married, never married, and those who are divorced/separated, where the latter two groups are further divided into single, living apart together (LAT), and cohabiting. In addition, the study measured the levels of sexual self-esteem, sexual communication, and sex frequency for the different relationship-status groups as predictors …
/r/BlackPillScience04/05/19 10:49 AM
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They may not be coddled versus western women, but they are typically better off then the men of their social class in terms of material comfort and are more protected from hardships.
/r/BlackPillScience02/05/19 11:10 PM
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How many of these females truly fit the definition of 'incel' though? These women are mostly voluntarily celibate(apart from a tiny minority with severe deformities or sufferers of immobilizing medical conditions) because they can't fulfill their hypergamous desires, not incel.
/r/BlackPillScience01/05/19 11:21 PM
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Thank you for writing that reply. I agree the scenario of enforced monogamy you outlined would be ideal for societal stability and cohesion, and ultimately benefit both sexes. Unfortunately, it seems the west is transitioning from serial monogamy to gradually open polygyny. There is a slight possibility that the anti-feminist reaction you mentioned could avert this outcome, fueled by rising inceldom. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
/r/BlackPillScience01/05/19 06:53 PM
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Out of curiosity, I'd like to hear your reasoning as to how couples being age-matched reinforces monogamy as opposed to historical male being older norm? Is it because of men losing their looks as they age, despite tending to have more resources and a higher social status as they age? It seems to me it would at least promote monogamy on behalf of men, due to their usual preference for neoteny. As for the social acceptability of greater age gaps, even in the southern US in the sixties it was cons…
/r/BlackPillScience01/05/19 09:10 AM
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Very astute. The whole "tears of a clown" stereotype, suffering increasing the ability to self-reflect and humour as a coping mechanism to lessen sadness. I would also argue that banter between men contributes to this, as well as using humour to defuse hostile social situations.
/r/BlackPillScience01/05/19 01:14 AM
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Probably, the explanation the study gave was "muh gender roles."
/r/BlackPillScience30/04/19 10:58 PM
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The only possible solution I see is to offer economic incentives for women to give birth early and drop out of the workforce, or more likely work part-time with parental leave, like Russia I think has done to some success. This however, won't solve the issue of women being unwilling to date men they see as beneath them,or even equal to them, because this is probably significantly biologically mediated. I don't really see any political will in Western countries to implement these measures, apart …
/r/BlackPillScience30/04/19 10:49 PM
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At the same time, cultural degeneracy also makes large age gaps socially acceptable. Isn't it the opposite in "degenerate" cultures? I mean you can see men accused of being a pedophile by many these days for going after, say a 17 yr old girl (in countries where this is legal, of course.) It seems to me that one of the effects of modernity and feminism has been to reduce age gaps between couples, not increase them.
/r/BlackPillScience30/04/19 10:43 PM
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Wouldn't this lead to an even larger divorce rate in WEIRD countries, with Millenial women in the U.S earning more then their male peers? Or it will lead to a situation like Japan, where there is a substantial number of female as well as male virgins (due to men not being 'good enough' for them, a major cause of this likely being Japan's low economic growth since their bubble economy bursting in the early nineties.
/r/BlackPillScience30/04/19 10:30 PM
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Abstract: In a sample of college couples, we examined the frequency of extrapair copulations, how these differ from intercourse with committed partners, and how knowledge of the other person’s relationship status affects sexual behavior. More than 25% of both men and women reported engaging in 1 or more extrapair copulations. Those who cheated reported greater arousal, but the duration of intercourse was not affected. Both sexes achieved greater sexual satisfaction from extrapair copulations. Wh…
/r/BlackPillScience30/04/19 10:16 PM
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Out of curiosity, are the women you attract with this look "primitive", or in other words lower-class slutty types, or does it work on all types of women?
/r/BlackPillScience25/04/19 03:31 PM
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So basically you successfully pulled off the "RTT"(roided,tattoed game) meme from lookism.net/PSL forums. There are some studies that say physical "dominance" is more important then facial attractiveness for slaying, so it might be legit. You had a good base to start from tho, white/fairly tall.
/r/BlackPillScience25/04/19 03:19 PM
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Yea, looks seems to work similar to the charisma stat in RPGs.
/r/BlackPillScience25/04/19 03:12 PM
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What are your stats(i.e facial attractiveness,height,race) if you don't mind me asking? Seems like a dramatic turnaround.
/r/BlackPillScience25/04/19 12:37 PM
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Original link seems to be dead for now, but from the original r/braincels post: The rape figure comes from https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/animals-and-us/201208/rape-victims-are-more-not-less-likely-become-pregnant From above The evidence that women are more likely to get pregnant by rape is described in this article in the journal Human Nature by Jonathan and Tiffani Gottschall. Between November,1995 and May, 1996, the National Institute of Justice, the National Center for Injury Preven…
/r/BlackPillScience25/04/19 12:28 PM
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Interesting, thanks for that reply.
/r/BlackPillScience25/04/19 12:13 PM
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True, but these russian/ukrainian girls seem to be on another level of ruthlessness. Probably best to limit your visits to sex tourism, maybe run religion game and convert to Orthodox Christianity and get a "trad" girl if you're desperate enough, probably won't make much of a difference in potential outcome though.
/r/BlackPillScience24/04/19 08:25 PM
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Any explanation for the quite large variance between IPIP rated extroversion and the HEXACO test?
/r/BlackPillScience24/04/19 05:00 PM
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Good chance of getting cucked/divorce raped or even murdered if you try to run betabux game on these cunning materialist east-slavic women. Many such cases!
/r/BlackPillScience24/04/19 04:44 PM
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​ >The chances of pregnancy are more than two times higher for rape intercourse (8%) than voluntary intercourse (3,1%). >14% of US men account for 51% of male reproduction. Holy shit, good work compiling all these studies OP. I've been lurking/posting in red/blackpill spaces for years and haven't heard of these figures before. Brutal.
/r/BlackPillScience24/04/19 04:32 PM
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