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| 1 | My first thought when Red Pillers say all women over 200 pounds are " unattractive " . She's 5'7 slightly over 200Should be attractive? I don't determine what is attractive however to say objectively! that no women over 200 pounds is attractive is just bigotry . This woman is sexy asf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/22 06:08 AM |
| 1 | My first thought when Red Pillers say all women over 200 pounds are " unattractive " . She's 5'7 slightly over 200If you didn't know her weight would she be attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/22 05:58 AM |
| 1 | Why by Red pill " theory " Women at 2 sexual partners just sleep to up to 7 more and why pair bonding is such a silly term used for birds that are only monogamous during a nesting period.Yes I personally want the age of consent raised and it's not women but men frontal lobe that's not complete as well . I don't know why you are acting so dense. If you have anything to say to the topic then say it but don't put up some farce as if we as a society expect an 18 year old to date someone their own age . Not some 30 year old man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 06:36 AM |
| 1 | Why by Red pill " theory " Women at 2 sexual partners just sleep to up to 7 more and why pair bonding is such a silly term used for birds that are only monogamous during a nesting period.There is no happy correlation? I've actually looked into this. Demonstrate where they are more happy. And a guy just here said he explicitly dates 18 year olds for that reason . Men are attracted to virgins? Stop doing that , it's do cringe when this community appeals to this evo-psych BS . I don't want to date a child practically and nor do I look at virginity as a factor. I actually may prefer an experience women rather than trying to prepare a virgin for sex and have to teach her . A chore , … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 06:24 AM |
| 1 | Why by Red pill " theory " Women at 2 sexual partners just sleep to up to 7 more and why pair bonding is such a silly term used for birds that are only monogamous during a nesting period.Its not a virgin but explicitly a 18 year old virgin is what this community is seeking . It's particularly young women valuing them like they are car mileage. Just because someone says they prefer something doesn't mean its suddenly incapable of being immoral . Why are women waiting until marriage? People don't just do this randomly. You are ignoring what type of background led to such behavior in the first place . What's the difference between someone who waited to have sex until marriage and a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 05:50 AM |
| 1 | Why by Red pill " theory " Women at 2 sexual partners just sleep to up to 7 more and why pair bonding is such a silly term used for birds that are only monogamous during a nesting period.Your asking me to prove its easier to manipulate a young adult that just reached the age of consent. You can't be serious. Like I said I'm moving on from that . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 05:15 AM |
| 1 | Why by Red pill " theory " Women at 2 sexual partners just sleep to up to 7 more and why pair bonding is such a silly term used for birds that are only monogamous during a nesting period.Ok I'm going to leave this alone . If you have any other questions on the topic I'll address those | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 05:10 AM |
| 1 | Why by Red pill " theory " Women at 2 sexual partners just sleep to up to 7 more and why pair bonding is such a silly term used for birds that are only monogamous during a nesting period.Humans don't pair bond . I just appealed to your definition of pair bonding just to show you that isn't being said above. Also this entire community is based on soft sciences . Human behavior is complex which is why a social study is considered impossible to recreate because there's too many variables . You'll have a study that says porn help men to not cheat and then you have a study that has data suggesting porn makes men cheat more . There's a million other reasons why someone might do someth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 05:09 AM |
| 1 | Why by Red pill " theory " Women at 2 sexual partners just sleep to up to 7 more and why pair bonding is such a silly term used for birds that are only monogamous during a nesting period.A 18 year old is practically a child and this obsession/predatory practice of going for specifically 18 year olds is most definitely frowned upon generally. It's only this community that has expressed this obsession with 18 year olds . I name many reasons why 0 to 1 are less likely to divorce . I imagine they are marrying someone close their age but who knows . The other points I mentioned are more common for people who marry the first or second person they meet . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 05:05 AM |
| 1 | Why by Red pill " theory " Women at 2 sexual partners just sleep to up to 7 more and why pair bonding is such a silly term used for birds that are only monogamous during a nesting period.He explicitly said on Piers Morgan that a 18 year old has had less dick in her, less arguments and baggage . This is about viewing women like car mileage and manipulation so you can do whatever you want with them . He said he once slept with all his employees because women work harder once you've had sex with them . His onlyfans models he managed at the time just happen to want to sleep with him and weren't coerced because they didn't want to lose their job . Do you realize how unethical that is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 05:01 AM |
| 1 | Why by Red pill " theory " Women at 2 sexual partners just sleep to up to 7 more and why pair bonding is such a silly term used for birds that are only monogamous during a nesting period.And this why you need to understand what a soft science is because this is pseudoscience . And did you see what it said ? It said the bond can be temporary or a lifetime? It says nothing to corroborate the theory that more sex reduces your chances to " Pair bond " meaning you can continue making temporary pair bonds in life by what you cited. Humans are complex and not dictated by happy hormones as they call it such as dopamine, oxytocin and so on . They are literally looking at couples assuming… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Why by Red pill " theory " Women at 2 sexual partners just sleep to up to 7 more and why pair bonding is such a silly term used for birds that are only monogamous during a nesting period.Didn't know it was a far fetch thing to say 18 year olds are easy to manipulate and consider a young adult. It's as if our society doesn't actively shame a 30 year old or even 25 year old for dating a 18 year old . Statistically 80 percent of relationships are couples within 5 years of each other . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Why by Red pill " theory " Women at 2 sexual partners just sleep to up to 7 more and why pair bonding is such a silly term used for birds that are only monogamous during a nesting period.Virgin girls are just easier to manipulate which is why this community preys on girls who just reached the age of consent . Andrew tate explicitly states a 18 year old is more valuable than a 25 year old by some creepy criteria and this community subscribe to that sentiment in large . A 18 year old can't even drink yet . That low of a number typically marry young , may be an arranged marriages, heavy pressure to divorce in a small rural town, the woman is financially dependent, they believe the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 04:40 AM |
| 1 | Why by Red pill " theory " Women at 2 sexual partners just sleep to up to 7 more and why pair bonding is such a silly term used for birds that are only monogamous during a nesting period.Perfect example of correlation doesn't mean causation. Link of the study that Red pillers appeal to which I got the photos from https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 03:46 AM |
| 1 | Around 70% of divorces are initiated by women, what are some of your theories as to why that is?This is simple, men are just more complacent in bad marriages where women are just more likely to pull the plug . The person pulling the plug shouldn't really be the place of focus but it's ultimately what led to the bad marriage. Also if more men were open like the man in the link women wouldn't realize later on they married a guy they didn't want to be with. https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/y4uzbh/wow_hes_honest_but_imagine_badgering_a_woman/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=androi… | /r/MensRights | 16/10/22 04:52 AM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.There's no flaw , you just don't understand what misogny is . Don't worry about it , I seriously think you are too dense to get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 04:16 AM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.I want to link some new post of mine that better explain my position and you can look at the comments to see the discussion if interested. Just to be clear they don't have an aversion to promiscuous women . You come off rather dense in that regard not understanding what misogny is . Using words like " Ew" to describe disgust let's me know you don't understand . If we were so disgusted then men wouldn't sleep with promiscuous women bragging to our boys about all the ones we banged and we would be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .I honestly believe they've stopped looking at women as human beings around puberty . Look at how they describe women. Sometimes it's a little surreal that someone can give you a straight face spewing such indifference when it comes to women as human beings. It's about their feelings, entitlement and indignation for a possession they feel should oblige. Like I said above , it isn't the casual sex that disgust them or they would never sleep with promiscuous women bragging about it to their boys bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Stop doing that , " men bang who they can " . All men aren't just having sex with anything. This community always presents us like well just bang any girl we meet Yes alot of men subscribe to a prejudice, insecurity or just emotional because we are primed, entitled and indignant by this indoctrination while women are expected to be more mature despite the feelings or prejudice they may have judging the relationship by its own merit despite a man being promiscuous in the past. You keep mentioning… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .I completely disagree, this is a reason women are oppressed all over the world by this silly notion of "modesty " and sexual morality . You aren't being objective at all but rather falling prey to relative objectification. The guy below literally said to me he wants someone with the same sex partners as him . First that's weird especially creepy asking a woman how many men she's slept and its a relative standard meaning if he only had 2 partners then she can only have 2 partners . That is petty … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 05:54 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .You don't own women. You keep using these words to invoke some appeal of entitlement but you are not entitled to be privy of every single thing in a woman's life . If she wishes to divulge that's fine but asking her how many men she's slept with is definetly none of your business . A woman should run for the hills if a man ask that question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .I'm kind of embarrassed for them . Male insecurity is seriously normalized . Another reason I wanted to speak about shallowness is to demonstrate that for many it's always been this internal fight with themselves because of insecurity. To not be able to admit that you may not be the ideal in regards to physically characteristics demonstrates how it plagues your mind. We are just primed, entitled , and indignant when it comes to feelings we may have as men ; however when it comes to women they ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .I've addressed that in detail here dismissing all that above . https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xvkel9/how_the_red_pill_indoctrinates_young_men_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Please don't generalize , as a man everytime I hear someone generalize men saying we are disgusted because a woman engaged in casual sex in college having fun or what have you its always cringe . Just speak for yourself , one thing I hate about this community is that it always wants to hijack all men making generalizations left and right. I'm sure women are reading what you said above thinking they don't shame men who pay sex workers . And the negative emotion and relationship impacts is somethi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Shaming a woman for having casual sex is objectifying women like they are car mileage. Plenty of men out their who have mothers who engaged in casual sex in college and then you get Red pill men especially saying " i don't want NO HO! , I want someone like my mother!" .......not realizing that their mother was promiscuous In college. This is because you have a prejudice that demonize promiscuous women so you form a belief where you can ascertain whether someone is promiscuous or not . You Ultima… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Hide ? It's none of your business and rather creepy and weird to badger a woman on her sexual history . It's tantamount to asking her how many blowjobs have you given , how many men did you kiss , and so on . You dont own her . She's not some possession that loses value like a used car . You are objectifying women rather than treating her like a human being . This is a reflection of yourself and what you need to deal with internally . Like I said, a woman may feel a certain way about a man who w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .I simply want you to work on yourself because women don't deserve this . How can we call women emotional but we make whole reddits to whine and complain about promiscuous women . This is not only for women but you as well . I know men who let good women go because they were mindfuqed finding out she was promiscuous In the past . She not only feel like she became useless like some possession that's been used by other people too long but you let your emotions override the actual relationship. You … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 07:25 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .There's alot of assumptions here that would take awhile to parse through to even have a proper discussion. I've explained how some of your beliefs above aren't true . Here if interested https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xovvib/why_we_need_to_stop_being_emotional_insecure_men/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xnxmo5/the_fundamental_reason_as_to_why_red_pill_is_a/?utm_… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 07:14 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Your comment is analogous to saying I'm racist but not harming anyone . Your thoughts create perceptions that women have to deal with. When you objectify women like objects as if they are car mileage you aren't treating them like a human being anymore.Typically this doesn't stop here . When the precedent has been set that you can treat people how you want by how you feel then typically a man may say " why are you wearing those leggings ? Why did you have that conservation with that man in public… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 07:09 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Because preferences that are tantamount to saying I prefer women who let me physically discipline them shouldn't be considered a preference. And like I said above you aren't providing a preference but a requirement . I just explained above that a preference doesn't preclude most people from engaging with others who don't fit their ideal characteristics. For example someone may say they prefer green eyes but that doesn't mean they dismiss anyone who doesn't have green eyes like you are in regards… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 06:01 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .I'm almost at a loss of words on this one . Engaging in casual sex doesn't mean you were seeking a relationship. If you are speaking about a woman who's has had 10 relationships fail then most definitely get to the bottom of it to see why . Then you said a man who's only slept with one women doesn't deserve a woman who's been with more than him . I don't even know how to address such immature thinking. A relationship isn't about some sex competition but it's looking for a companion to love and s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 05:48 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Great , when I as a man read " did she have a father " to determine if a woman engages in casual sex it makes me cringe . You definitely need to specify what type of men you are referring to . You said how to filter women for a long term relationship? I don't know maybe the other million things you could value like loyalty, dedication , empathy, shared hobbies , commitment, kindness , forgiving, loving, gentleness, great sense of humor and so on rather than treating her like a possession that lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 05:40 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .If interested I spoke about this community appeals to studies to dismiss women who engage in casual sex/promiscuous women is misrepresenting them here . I'll put the link below. I don't if you were asking me or her but the notion of finding prince charming the first or even second time is not ideal . Women will most likely go through a few relationships. Women shouldn't have to deny themselves sexually so a man can be feel comfortable about himself . Just because a woman engages in casual sex do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 05:34 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .You are proving her point. This is just a prejudice you have . You provided a long list of behaviors that don't preclude a woman from being promiscuous. This is type of thinking where a man has a heart attack finding out she was promiscuous In the past because you can't believe she didn't do any of the above. You can respect your father and engage in casual sex . How are you not respecting your father ? That's the most asinine thing I've read today . Your father doesn't own you . You need to cha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 05:21 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Her youth? Do you realize how you speak as if you own women. Women don't owe you anything. When it comes to this community it ironically caters to how men feel while women are just expected to be the adults judging the relationship by its own merit and not sexual history . A racist man may feel disgusted by black women but we don't just sit there being complacent. We try to change the perception by educating people , not teaching children to hate someone by the color their skin. I may want to pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 04:29 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .They are delusional , either they badger a woman on her sexual history which is weird and creepy or they convince themselves she's never been promiscuous by her behavior. Ultimately you can't tell . Just because a woman is reserved doesn't mean she never engaged in casual sex in college or what have you . They simply have a prejudice but in no way does anything preclude a woman from being promiscuous. I've known conservative women that I thought was practically a virgin to be quite promiscuous. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 04:15 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Well said, good to see a woman in the comments explaining how this is blatant misogyny. We are priming men to behave this way by entitling them to have indignation and disgust towards promiscuous women. Have you seen some of these comments ? You would think women are owned objects that need to wait to live life until their master meets them . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .I've addressed all your points on my previous post . Also there is no such thing as a limit but rather its just a non-factor . I know you are probably amongst like minded but I'm asked questions like this by men harping on it it's really a testament to what bothers you to a point I feel bad you feel this way . This is just weird and creepy to me to be that bothered fantasizing about what occurred. Here's the past post https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xvkel9/how_the_red_pill_ind… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .I've addressed these studies that this community appeals to in regards to divorce and what not on previous post if interested to claim a promiscuous women is most likely to do all sorts of things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 02:08 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .A train every week lol 😆 . You guys just fantasize about what happened . Man it doesn't bother me my goodness. If she's with me and the relationship is great nothing else matters . Like I said I'm not going to have a heart attack because she was promiscuous In college . Value doesn't drop because you aren't God ? You are definetly speaking to something I didn't ask. Don't worry about it. Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 02:03 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .I'm a man , so speak about your own feelings but not on behalf of all men . I'm not having a heart attack because I found out my wife had some fun in college . You said her values lower ? So would you divorce her ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 01:48 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .I'm not someone from this community so when you attempt to invoke some indignant emotion it's just not there . I'm going to judge the relationship by its own merit . She had some fun in college in which alot of people do in college. Interestingly enough if a man was with 3 girls , he's eating one out , one is riding on him and another waiting to ride you wouldn't hear such shameful appeals you are making by saying a train is being ran on her . She's just having fun like the guy . So your answer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Well a woman sexual history is none of your business anyway. If you are badgering a woman to tell you how many sexual partners she has most women will find that creepy . There really shouldn't even be an event to lie about it because a man should never ask it . Nevermind that , this thread wasn't to critique men who dismiss promiscuous women . Unless you are speaking about a twin or a life where you live forever that's just idealistic . You are not going to find someone with the ideal physical c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xvkel9/how_the_red_pill_indoctrinates_young_men_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 01:07 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .That has nothing to do with my post . If you want to discuss that go look at my other post which critiques the dismissal of promiscuous women . This post was about shallowness, the claim of disgust coming from promiscuity when it's really how women ought to behave , having nothing to do with her being promiscuous and asking if you would consider your wife to have lesser value if you found out she was promiscuous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 01:03 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Couldn't land one that fits the criteria ? What do you mean ? I know women who fit my criteria by physical characteristics and they are boring . Been there and done that as as young man . Just because you have the physical characteristics I want doesn't mean the relationship is suddenly great . Like I said shared hobbies , loyalty, empathy, kindness , giving, same sense of humor and so on are the most important for most people out there . My question is to those making an objective determination… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 12:59 AM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .3 more bodies but promiscuous to you correct ? By question is only in regards to what promiscuity is by you because you agreed that a woman loses value by an objective determination. Whatever promiscuous is then when reached she should automatically lose value. Now I'm confused , she loses value and dismissed irrespective of anything if you know she's promiscuous from the outset . If you found out she was promiscuous In the past then why does anything else matter ? Divorce her ? Otherwise you ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Thanks for answering the question . Now you said her value would drop now would you divorce her ? And women don't decide the perception. Women are just expected to be more mature about a man's sexual history judging the relationship by its on merit instead of casting shame . Women get insecure like men , they could appeal to a promiscuous man baggage , say he's more likely to cheat and so on but women are just expected to be mature about it. Conservative women who are religious would most defini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Yes clearly , I am hoping more adults comment . This fantasy world where most people are with a significant other that meets their ideal by physical characteristics doesn't exist . Now they in particular may be incredibly shallow but I'm guessing that will end when they grow up meeting someone they genuinely care about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Pardon ? What's not common? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .My question is to those who subscribe to Andrew tate who said a woman value is by how many men she's slept with . This is an objective determination of value where you dismiss a woman irrespective of anything else . If you don't subscribe then its fine however your wife of 10 years value should fall if she's been found out to be promiscuous in the past . Either it's an objective determination of value or its not. Men create the perceptions so ! Woman didn't create the perception that a promiscuo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Ah , you are giving me politically correct answers that just isn't reality to most. My post is not meant for you . My post is for the typical man by the looming perception. We don't live in a society where men are shamed for being promiscuous which is another reason I think it's funny you called them degenerate . Most men I know certainly wouldn't call them degenerate and the looming perception wouldn't deem promiscuous men degenerates either. Lastly , my question was about an objective determin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Dude, no one is touching my significant other except me. I'm adult enough to acknowledge that though we are attracted to other and pleasure each other, that we may not be ideal by physical characteristics. Maybe you are particularly young but there's so many other reasons to value someone when you meet someone you genuinely love . Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .You guys really don't live in reality or rather make up your own reality . Ask yourself are you the ideal to your significant other by physical characteristics? I know I'm not and my girl isn't for me either however we value each other for other things . You know? Kindness, empathy, loyalty, forgiving, charismatic, sense of humor , shared hobbies etc ? You know , the things that matter the most . Most people aren't with someone who is ideal by physical characteristics. If your girlfriend fills a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Wow , you compared a woman being promiscuous in the past to a sexual harasser....I was asking about value but I'm sure their value would drop to you . If someone used to sexually harass people then most definitely their value would drop to me just like someone who explicated raped girls in the past . That isn't something you gloss over . Remember this is about men valuing women by how many men she slept with. If someone value is soley based on that then it follows they should be less valuable. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .There's 20 plus MODS and you are the only one bothering me over and over. The MOD Mrs Degree just commented on a older post of mine that it was CMV now. She didn't remove the post . Just read what I wrote. I'm not here to troll or bother someone . It's always people like this who appeal to technicalities rather than using common sense to use their power in some way or another . Relax | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Why do you keep bothering me . I think I remember you removing one of my other post . I get it , you may not like the post but allow proper discourse . I didn't know this was a place for MODS to satisfy their own ego at the expense of proper discourse . Just relax and chill | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 08:17 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Exactly what I'm thinking, a woman is simply enjoying herself just like men who are promiscuous. No reason to shame women exclusively because of something internal , demonizing women as being terrible people accusing them of bringing baggage , more likely to cheat , divorce and so on . Looking down on those who were just enjoying themselves by something internal is not becoming of a individual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness, and the value/disgust of the promiscuous women .Imagine being a woman that knows you like big boobs to see your ex-girlfriend has huge ones you'd prefer over hers . People deal with this all the time however its understood that there's million of other reasons to value someone . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?You seriously thought when I said that I was literally saying there's not a single 30 yr old engaging with a 18 year old . You could extend some good faith in this discussion. The link you just presented literally showed that 80 percent are within 5 years of one another . Whatever And I don't care what what deem normal. You don't get prescriptions out of descriptions. Do you know what is-ought problem is ? You keep repeating descriptions/is as if it leads to a prescription/ought . Appealing to w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/22 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?I dont know what you mean by normal. It's not normal by judeo-christian values that shame women for being promiscuous most certainly. Are you speaking in terms of our bodies? I would tell you who cares . I made a post explaining how red pill is a cult smuggling in prescriptions by descriptions. For example, someone like fresh and fit will say men should be allowed to be promiscuous in a relationship because they can stay committed and the woman has the security he wants . Women and men are diffe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 09:39 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Choices? Men create the perceptions that limit women choice by shame. You don't want to acknowledge that a mass amount of men dismissing women by their sexual history, telling their daughters to not be promiscuous is coercion because men create the perceptions. The women must adapt . Now of course I can admit its not as bad as a muslim country but you should understand now. If you go to a muslim country and tell women they don't have to wear the hijab in order to attract a muslim man they'll loo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?Lmaooo I'm not well versed in this. I've only seen a few reassignment surgeries after the operation and they didn't look like a vagina to me . Now if you want to accuse all of those men of being gay then so be it but I'm not so sure especially when there used to be a fright defense to men who killed transwoman finding out after the fact that she wasnt a biological woman. I'm not so sure on this topic but I could certainly grant that some men may just be gay . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?You do realize I don't care about a woman's body count ? But some men do , I'm saying for the women that want to know they should be allowed to know even if it's uncomfortable just like you demand the transwoman to know. I remember you now actually from the last dense conversation we had . Let's end it here , good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?Most women are not with their ideal man by physical characteristics. This is why I keep trying to tell you . You live in this shallow internet world . You do realize theres a million other reasons to value someone other than physical characteristics? Just go out and meet more people. This notion that women are with their ideal man by physical characteristics isn't reality. People aren't as shallow as you think . Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?I said it rarely happens. It's simply not reality , 30 or 25 year old men aren't out her dating 18 year old girls on average even remotely . Statistically people are with someone relative to their own age within 5 years. You said psychology and fitness ? What are you talking about? This is exactly what I'm taking about . I don't find a 18 year old which I see as a child to be more desirable than a woman in her 20s. I can understand wanting a young women from 18 to 35 perhaps but this obsession w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?Many men who've had sec with a woman after reassignment surgery. If done well it could resemble a vagina . If you haven't seen many vaginas in person I could see how an especially horny man may just think hers look a little weird . Especially when all her other features are indistinguishable from a biological woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?What? Wait you think promiscuous would not want to know? Do you know how used and tricked a promiscuous women feel being dropped month later ? Do you realize there's a whole feminist movement where a feminist would drop you even if they weren't promiscuous considering you to be sexist, insecure, misogynistic and so forth? To say women wouldn't want to know is blatantly false . You just don't respect the woman demand to know like that of a man's demand to know of the transwoman . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?You are conflating a physical characteristic with a behavior that is actively shaming women . I also want to be clear that men and women have their preferences but very few people get their ideal anything physically. I personally like big behinds , and big breast but my girls breast aren't that big . Naturally women will say they want a taller guy or some say even 6 foot yet women don't operate that way in the slightest . Don't focus on the shallow extremes of the internet . It's not reality , j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?You ultimately can't tell if a woman has been promiscuous or not . This is just an association fallacy. A women need to do any of the things you mentioned to have a promiscuous past and it doesn't matter anyway. The point was about letting her know even if its uncomfortable just like it's uncomfortable for transwoman to tell you they are a biological male A woman may feel used , tricked and so on to be dropped month later because you found she was promiscuous. It seems when we want to know its f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?Do you realize how a woman may feel used and tricked not telling them from the outset ? You realize most transwoman aren't comfortable telling you they are a biological male but you demand it correct? You know women would also like to know ? Why when it comes us we can make demands that we know will end the relationship but when it comes to women we string them along the way potentially wasting their time by something that can also end the relationship. If we demand to know then they can demand … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?I see, you are most definitely consistent. You are not wasting your time or her time letting her know from the outset . I would reckon that most women don't want a guy who would dismiss you for being promiscuous though. however more conservative women may just accept it because of religion and so on. If you had 2 identical men most women are the picking the guy that wouldn't dismiss them because of sexual history . Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?Yes I spoke of how emotional we are as men and and how this community indoctrinates , prime , and entitle young men to their emotions while most women are just expected to be mature about it getting over the fact that her man was promiscuous. My question is why does it matter when you demand the transwoman to tell you she's a biological male ? The transwoman is uncomfortable yet men want to know if they are biological male because the relationship is dependent on it . Also you realize how much t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?It's none of your business or anyone business to how many sexual partners I've had just like a transwoman feel its none of your business if they are a biological male . Either way you demand a transwoman to tell you no matter If she's uncomfortable? Then ask the woman no matter if she's uncomfortable because you are potentially wasting your time and hers . Do you realize how a woman would feel used and tricked to be dropped month later if you happen to realize she was promiscuous? It seems when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?It's on topic , the analogy is clear here . It's about being aware of something that will immediately end the relationship . It's about being fair to both parties so you dont waste each other time . If you demand a transwoman to tell you then you need to tell women . Do you realize how women feel when they just get dropped for being promiscuous? Think about the woman . The analogy is clear here . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Do you tell women from the outset that you will immediately end the relationship if she was promiscuous?Do you think it's uncouth to ask a transwoman if she's a biological male ? Do you wait until you had sex to ask the transwoman? I know if I was a woman and had been promiscuous I wouldn't want to waste my time and may even feel lied to in a weird way when you don't ask that from the outset . It's not only for the woman but for you as well . Imagine wasting all that time to realize she was promiscuous In the past | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 04:33 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.You are coercing women though . Who do you think created the perception that it's ok if a man is promiscuous but not a woman? Certainly wasn't a woman yet millions of women oblige .why ? Because they don't make the perception and feel the pressure when millions of men will dismiss you for being promiscuous. You know racist men were disgusted by women of color 150 years ago ? Muslim men disgusted by women who didn't wear the hijab , you realize women may find your promiscuous behavior disgusting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 03:49 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.It's predatory to be honest . Who is actively asking women are they virgins as if that means anything. It's creepy and weird . She could lose her virginity by him and shes instantly bad goods for men looking for virgins. It's silly really | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 02:44 AM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Women have no choice because they don't make the perceptions. Like I said said didn't create the perception that it's great for a man to be promiscuous but it's bad for a woman to. Trust me women don't like that perception but they must oblige and adapt because millions of men will dismiss a promiscuous women and will teach their daughters to not be promiscuous. I don't think you understand what coercion is . Let's say you go to a muslim country where the hijab is a choice ? You think women have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 01:49 AM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.What about if I said? I dont want to go to a mall with black people present ? Let's not speak as if you don't need a legitimate reason to shame women for being promiscuous. You think women created the perception thats its great for a man to be promiscuous but it's not for a woman? You must be kidding me . When someone question you why is it OK for a man to be promiscuous its " don't need to give reasons " . Of course you dont because we make the perceptions and women just have to deal with our e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 01:42 AM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.You want to take this elsewhere. I'm speaking in regards to sexual promiscuity. Any other topic deserves it's own post. I'll say it again, when it comes to promiscuity women are just expected to be the mature ones judging the relationship by its own merit . You can't tell if someone is promiscuous. No one need to divulge anything to anyone about their sexual encounters. You ultimately can not tell with certainty. You are just convincing yourself by the way she carries herself. I've seen your typ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 01:24 AM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.No one said most men wouldn't prefer that . I said tjst to dismiss this silly biological appeal that all men care . The point of this post was to convince other men that we shouldn't behave this way and nor should we teach young men to behave this way . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 01:10 AM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.I'm a man buddy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:50 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.I want a woman who is attractive, and makes six figures . Who wouldn't want that? You are conflating physical characteristics or income with behavior that actively shames someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:26 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Who said my number count is high ? Just look at what you are doing . First you just conceded that people don't think like you which means this isn't some biological imperative or whatever . Then you assert that I have a high body count ? I literally told you it's none of your business but you must assume so your worldview stays in place . You don't engage in discussion and make up whatever you want about people for your own ends. It's impossible to have a discussion because you want to ask quest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:24 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.I'm saying that you will deem anything a preference . What constitutes a preference for you would be any behavior irrespective of shame / how someone else is treated . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:16 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.None of these men from the outset will ever tell a woman this . It's interesting how they want a transwoman to tell them they are a biological male because they'll immediately end the relationship however when it comes to them being upfront to women about something you'll immediately end the relationship by, they'll never explicitly ask them how many men you slept with. Why ? Because they know most women would not even engage a man who is asking a question that's none of his business . It's cree… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:02 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Duh, now dont ask me any other questions implying my wife value should be diminished because she's slept with a bunch of guys before meeting me . It doesn't change how amazing someone is by the slightest. You guys need to grow up . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 09:39 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.How convenient that most women just get over it or dont have such feelings but men are entitled, indignant and emotional about it . So many pejorative like tho*, whor*, slu and so on when invoked we know explicitly its in regard to women . So much so that you must provide context or a prefix to say male-who** so people understand what you mean. You are conflating physical characteristics with shaming /treating of other people . You realize 150 years ago race mixing was no socially accepted? You … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 09:36 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.I disagree wholeheartedly with that . There is no legitimate reason for that . It's people like that where purity culture and what not are formed by. I would never tell someone to wait until marriage before sex because marriage is just a wager. You can commit to someone before marriage. I dont want to get bogged down by a tangent though. I'm against that because it's relative not an objective standard even if it was its still valuing someone based off sex partners . Saying I want someone around … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 09:28 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.You know men used to have the right to discipline a woman physically? If a woman consented to a man disciplining her physically is it a preference? You are conflating a physical characteristic like height with how you shame treating other people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 09:22 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.She's my wife ? I cant believe some of the questions that are asked and how you can not feel embarrassed even asking them . I don't know what you are feeling but even if I did feel that way I wouldn't let that waver the love I have for my wife. At some point we as men have to tell younger men to not be guided by your emotions where you let a good woman go . You are literally telling me to think differently of my wife just because she's been with other men. This is such a disrespectful question i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 09:20 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.I rather end it here , it's becoming clear that I can drop this community in any time period and it will conform to whatever the time is because it's easier to live life that way . Segregation and slavery wouldn't have been abolished if everyone conformed like this community to have a easier life irrespective of how women or people of color are treated . This community doesn't help build character but tells men to be entitled to emotions you have , indignant, insecure and so on . Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 08:39 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Go read number 7, I said I won't generalize. I never generalize to make biological appeals. Of course a woman may be judgemental. Mostly everyone here agreed when my usage of " most " meaning more often than not . Most women are expected and WILL simply get over it . You don't make the perceptions but we do . Who do you think created the perception that a promiscuous man should be praised but a promiscuous women is borderline useless goods ? It wasn't you , women don't create perceptions but we … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 08:18 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Simply you find it disgusting ( like women don't and engage in promiscuous women because they are expected to be adults judging the relationship by their own merit) . The need of validation by other men . Number 2 is definetly why young men don't need to be indoctrinated by this nonsense. I've know men who let good girlfriends go because men like yourself told them to break up with her because she was promiscuous In the past. This is not becoming of a man . If you genuinely love someone you don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 08:08 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.I disagree wholeheartedly and why I always critique this community for not creating men with character but more so indoctrinating young men into being emotional and to conform . Once upon a time it was wrong to associate with black people socially but look at you above ? You literally went after me for that example . Why ? It's fine if it's accepted in society but if it was 150 years ago you'd be telling someone advocating for the mixing of races they need to accept the preference and utter disg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 07:58 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Wow , buddy I know women and I'm sure many men here know women who are insecure knowing the man had many partners in the past . It just comes with being promiscuous. They simply get over it . When a girl sees your ex had huge breast or the girls you slept with in the past did she may definitely feel insecure if she has average breast . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 07:13 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Wow , this last sentence. This is what this community is creating and why I am vehemently against young men being indoctrinated into this . You would literally tell a white man that is insecure that his girlfriend slept with a black man that he shouldn't date women who've been with black men because he has an aversion to it rather than help him to overcome his insecurity. Wow , good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 07:10 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Next time I want to play a new game all night neglecting my wife and child I'll tell my wife she's entitled for expecting me to do something I don't want to do . This is how emotional this community has become while women are expected to be mature adults judging the relationship by its own merit not shaming you for your sexual history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 07:07 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.I don't like to speak on generalizations. You should be more worried about putting forth generalizations and me , as man having no clue of what the hell you are talking about. And yes , this is a projection in the sense of , I don't know anyone who I am around who believe interpert this the way you do. I'm not going to get bogged down by some belief you have to the point where you feel comfortable asking someone their body count. I told you that's what this weird community does . I mentioned I c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 07:02 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Ask me rather than making things up about me . You didn't even seek to specify " soft sciences " in order to characteristize what I said dishonesty. Soft sciences just need to be taken with a grain of salt . We must understand that we are studying human behavior to not make haphazard conclusions which this community does misrepresenting scientist who've worked hard on these studies. 200 boyfriends in 10 years ? You choose to call those boyfriends ? Apparently we disagree to what an actual relati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 06:54 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.You aren't even remotely asking the same question. Asking someone about the type of partners they engaged in can be interesting and sometimes neccesary discussion on self esteem or trauma someone has gone through. This is something a non-promiscuous individual can go through and promiscuous. Asking someone the number of people they had sex with is certainly none of your business. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 06:36 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Well some Red pillers are appealing to studies to do that but some genuinely believe the misrepresentation by this community that these studies conclude women who are promiscuous are more likely to divorce. They aren't trying to be dishonest, well some aren't. Either way you are insulting a certain percentage of this community. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 06:31 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.I was displaying how no one says anything about the baggage a promiscuous man may bring because his character nor the previous women he engaged with are attacked . If the assumption isn't made towards the promiscuous man then naturally it need not be made by the promiscuous women. This is typical sexism here i.e misogyny. Well first you can't ultimately tell if a women has been promiscuous and it's always good to get tested anyway no matter who you initially engage with . You either badger a wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 06:28 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Wow, imagine taking the time to go over other reasons such as studies , social standing , the baggage a promiscuous partner may bring and so on to see someone dismiss it all to characterize my Post in such a dishonest way . Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 06:15 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.White men don't need justify their aversion of women who slept with black men . Men don't need to justify their aversion of women wearing leggings in public Men don't need to justify their aversion of their wife taking about topics they don't like her to speak about public dictating what she says. It mind boggles me how emotional this community it is . We are teaching young men to be emotional, insecure , entitled and so on . We are letting our emotions dictate how we shame and treat other peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 06:11 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Ok I stopped reading after the first paragraph. Its clear you are just going to make things up by your belief. Do you understand the reason that I mentioned the divorce study showing at 9 partners women were less likely to divorce than at 3 partners? Why does a promiscuous woman of 9 sexual partners have a lower divorce rate than a woman who had only 3 ? You need to demonstrate what you are saying though we know it's demonstrably false . Many pornstars are married | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 06:07 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.This is weird, you are so caught up in your belief that you aren't even embarrassed by that comment. Just a huge projection , why are you so bothered? What bothers you ? What do you mean by confidence? You don't think it will last or something? More progressive men like myself won't care about a body count but rather the actual relationship. You know ? The actual relationship? And yes more conservative people especially religious will more likely want someone with similar experience. And ? I'm a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 06:02 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Sex can't be scared if you have a high body count ? What lol ? You are being so bigoted here . You don't get to tell people how they value an interaction. Casual sex could be nothing sacred to them but when they find someone they love that sex can most definitely be sacred. This reminds of a preacher who said he believes marriage is to be valued , important sacred event so that's why they are against homosexuals marrying. He's literally telling them their marriage is not sacred . To who ? You ? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 05:54 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.Yes the latter , that's the point . They are merely insecure about their size . That example was provided to the men who appeals to " I don't like how it makes me feel " to dismiss a promiscuous woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 05:31 PM |
| 1 | How the Red Pill indoctrinates young men and dismissing the " reasons " to not engage with women who were promiscuous in the past.I'm a man buddy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Shameful? Quite the obvious, telling young women to be mature about a man sexual history judging the relationship by its out merit while telling men to be emotional, entitled and indignant is a problem. It's just misogyny, I rather you tackle at least one point rather than commenting absolutely nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Smh , I really don't care about the evo-,psych BS . Apparently non-judeo-christian cultures like the musuo that don't care about how promiscuous a woman is shouldn't exist. There's no "preference " for that there . Appealing to a culture that forced the world to adopt its values by colonialism and killed women who weren't virgins in ancient times does not entail its biology . You might as well say killing women for not being virgins is biology but people who do this only stop where they want and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Yes , stop appealing to evo-psychology conclusions you've made up to justify what you are saying . First you don't get oughts from a description. You can read my last post about descriptions and oughts . Secondly, you can't appeal to a society that colonized the world forcing others to adopt their religion and say look guys it's evolutionary. They forced the religion upon us as well as the values . Most the world has been dominated by judeo-christian values . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Alright so I grouped the studies that I've seen in the comments misrepresenting scientist by making conclusions that they wouldn't dare make themselves to justify your misogynistic beliefs . https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability https://ifstudies.org/blog/promiscuous-america-smart-secular-and-somewhat-less-happy https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/10/sexual-partners-and-marital-happiness/573493/ https://www.researc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 08:06 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Alright so I grouped the studies that I've seen in the comments misrepresenting scientist by making conclusions that they wouldn't dare make themselves to justify your misogynistic beliefs . https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability https://ifstudies.org/blog/promiscuous-america-smart-secular-and-somewhat-less-happy https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/10/sexual-partners-and-marital-happiness/573493/ https://www.researc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 08:03 AM |
| 2 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Well said , I know plenty of women who are turned off by such men. They are setting a precedent from the outset that their feelings is more important than the actual relationship. Many of these men would badger a woman for wearing leggings or anything that makes them uncomfortable at the expense of the woman . They would censor what the woman says in public . Men can agree that we feel its a must to get permission to talk about certain topics to a woman when a certain type of man is present . It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 07:36 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Well said , they have such an adversial mindset when engaging women. It always feel its women vs men . Many of them don't realize its a detriment to them as well . Had a few in the comments tell me they broke up with their partner because they heard through the grapevine that she was promiscuous In the past. He let her go because he said it would save him pain later . He wholeheartedly believed she would leave him ruining the relationship. This serves to demonize women who were once promiscuous … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 07:14 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .You are absolutely correct........... You are correct by by the perception is that its not good for a man to be promiscuous and a woman will break up with you immediately if she finds out you were promiscuous in the past . You are not misunderstanding and misrepresenting most of women .................. If you believe what I said above you don't live in reality. Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 04:50 AM |
| 0 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Please read the comments . I've already provided 3 or more reasons why a man may reject a promiscuous woman in the comments. Also the reason doesn't matter because it's still shaming . There is no legitimate reason . Read my other comments and comment on those as I've elaborated on this a dozen times now in the comments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 04:45 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Wow, this improved my day. I really appreciate you taking the time out to say this . I've been battling below not having one person who agreed with what I said so its good to hear this . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .My goodness, this is just stupid . Come on now , you are speaking about women who don't want active promiscuous men . You are conflating men who won't engage with women who have a promiscuous past with women who don't want men who are ACTIVELY promiscuous. Go look what a fuqboy is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Maybe you left the other discussion we had to come over because you realized you literally are appealing to studies making up whatever conclusion you want by them . I quoted the study to show you there's no casual link . I don't know if you are just ignorant or so caught up in hate that you can't humble yourself. Don't worry about it . People can read the studies you linked and see for themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I know you are the same guy. Maybe you can't see the past comment I made on the other comnents where we just spoke. I've already addressed and dismantled everything you've said so far. At this point you are just expressing your hate for women who engage in promiscuity and saying alot of men like yourself hate those women as well . Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Ok so you admitted a woman should sleep with 6 more women. Do you realize how silly this is . Your entire argument is out the window. And pair bonding is a throw away term . Human behavior is to complex to reduce us to something that doesn't even apply to all birds which it was used to refer to . Did you even read these studies ? You sent me studies I've seen a million times already . Quote from the second one . "In other words, there is no way of knowing if promiscuity is directly causing peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .This is a perception that has already been established. When the precedent is set already that a man may put his feelings over the actual relationship then it may also be at her expense. Many men here are of that ilk such as badgering a woman about what she is wearing . You wearing leggings ? What are you doing ? Or scolding in her in the car after she had a conversation you didn't like with a man in public. I'm sure you can feel the difference between speaking with a woman who is alone vs when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .We me collectively are the monsters as well . We dont do anything when they actually get raped which is what rape culture is . There's no rape reform, rape kits aren't tested, conviction rate lower than 5 percent because the perception is is cover yourself up because its your fault . Men are just like this so cover yourself up. Victim blaming is usually in regards to a woman's behavior and this response is typically to oppress women rather than oppress men. In Saudi Arabia it's a core belief tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Promiscuous men could have engaged with women who have messy boyfriends leading to their death. Happens more often than you think. Secondly this isnt an exclusive possibility in regards to having sex . Friends who engage in criminal activity or someone who has a job where they interact with alot of people may increase the chance of something happening . This is just typical misogyny though. A woman can engage with good men in the past and be just fine . You not only demonize the women but the me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Just present the study then . I can't explain my former points better than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Oh , I see what you are saying . Someone made an appeal like this before . I don't care about what some people do . Will every single woman on the planet not shame you for your sexual history ? Of course not , I'm speaking about reality and not hey this person over does shame . Most often women just deal with it . They are simply expected to be more mature . Men create the perceptions and not women . The perception that men can be promiscuous and a woman shouldn't is universal and women have to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Do you acknowledge how what you call a "preference" serves as " coercion "? I'm starting to think that the common man has so clue what women go through. I presume you are telling your daughters to be promiscuous( typically no preemptive measure to tell son) ? I don't understand how you can't see how men in large mass dismissing women in the millions by the fact that they were promiscuous has an effect on society. There's so many pejorative for a promiscuous woman such as whore, thot , slut and s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I'm sure many don't hate promiscuous women but it builds hated and animosity regardless. Now I'm glad you provided a reason. Many here are afraid to explain their reason because it's probably just insecurity. Now you said " Safer" correct ? Please explain , also I it more safer or less safe to get with a promiscuous man . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Idol? No idol but thanks . I'm actively trying to respond to anyone who is addressing the topic. Honestly I didn't expect this much of a response but I'll just deal with it and take the time out . I feel its incumbent upon anyone who makes a topic asking others to challenge their views to make a genuine attempt to respond. Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .But you are clearly entitled to treat women how you want at the expense of her . Trust me I know these type . I'm sure many of you but not all are the exact type of man to tell a woman" what are you wearing ? Those leggings ? I can't can't believe had the discussion in public , don't ever tall about that topic again to a man " and so . You know I'm right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Wait are you implying that women don't feel insecure ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Evo-psychology nonsense to justufy sexism/misogyny. Most the world has been colonized by those who subscribe to judeo-christian values . I bet you can't even name a culture in Africa before colonialism. There was more matriacharies around. Rather than appeal to Abrahamic religions where women were stoned if they couldn't prove their virginity by a bloody cloth I'll appeal to a society untouched from judeo-christian values . Watch a video called the kingdom of women if interested that goes over t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .That's just silly , we are getting to the point where you are just believing nonsense to justify sexism. This is type of rhetoric where men will shame women telling them " you are going against your female nature" to shame them for not behaving how misogynist want them too . You don't tell women how they feel . That's one thing from this community that's particularly disgusting. You don't decide how other people feel . Millions of women are bothered by the fact that their men slept with many gir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 05:32 PM |
| 0 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Haha my guy, yep I'm a man . I'm just a more progressive guy . The label beta was created for a reason right ? To dismiss men who disagree with the alpha or whatever BS . If such men didn't exist there's no reason to create labels to shame men who don't agree with you . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .What are you talking about . Sex workers being killed , honor killing and acid attacks are all motivated by women not behaving as the society demand them to behave . We have sought ought a motive by those who go over after sex workers and the sentiments are the same as this community. It boils down to hatred and indignation building for how women ought to behave . I presume you will tell your daughter to not be promiscuous correct ? Most men of your ilk would. For some reason you cant see how me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 05:25 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Never said they were the latter . You missed my entire point. I'm implying that there is a threshold where shame is warranted even if she consents . I honestly thought physically disciplining your wife would be enough to demonstrate this but clearly not . If a woman consented to being cut with a knife would you shame the man then for doing it ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 05:20 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .I granted that ? That's the description, and I'm saying it doesn't leas to an ought . It's the typical nature fallacy . You don't get oughts from descriptions . For example humans are selfish by nature , we want to do things we want to do above all else . If a new video game comes out I can't neglect my wife and children playing the game all day. Now when I tend to my family are the urges still there ? Absolutely, I want to play the game however I feel that I " ought " to tend to my family than … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I suggest you talk to women especially victims and ask them why they were attacked . We are literally speaking about men in large mass dismissing women who are promiscuous and you think there is absolutely no harmful effect buy it . These men wil also teach their daughters to behave as such . It builds indignation , entitlement and hatred for women for not behaving as they should . It's clear you don't know what misogyny is. Do you not know why honor killings and acid attacks are committed? Why … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 06:30 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Oh great , I've used that example and had men tell me it's nothing wrong with physically disciplining your wife if she consents to it . Glad we are at least on the same page on that . May I ask why did you say loyal caring ? It seems to be you realize how incoherent it is to mention handsome in the same breath of being insecure that a woman was promiscuous in the past or dismissing because of public perception. Or perhaps you are saying that a promiscuous woman is not loyal or caring? And men ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 06:20 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .You aren't getting at all . I havent said insecurity is inherently bad and I've also provided other reasons as to why men won't engage in promiscuous women . The reason doesn't even matter but it's the outcome . There is no legitimate reason to not engage with a woman you have great chemistry with, you enjoying being with her and so on because of her promiscuous past . Men who kill sex workers have the same beliefs .They just have an extreme indignation and built up hate for their behavior more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 06:06 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Women get insecure I said this above. You acknowledge the insecurity, you don't hide or be ashamed of it . You then work to overcome it but you don't use it as fuel to shame women . This is why I said women are expected to be the mature ones and men are primed to be entitled and indignant about their emotions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 05:46 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I'm for the moderate use of it . I believe it may actually help men who have high sex drives to stay committed . I want to focus on the discussion though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 05:26 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Your so called preference is analogous to saying I don't like women who dated black guys. I know white men who explicitly admit they won't date a woman who dated a black guy . Had a guy tell me that he couldn't get hard when he found out she was with a black guy . Now I'm not going to mock the guy by his insecurity or tell him that his insecurity doesn't matter. His feeling is real however I won't tell him to be complacent and not overcome it. He needs to acknowledge the feeling and work to over… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 05:09 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Insecurity is not bad if you don't use it as fuel to shame others . Like i said women are insecure just like men but are expected to be mature judging the relationship by its own merit and not shaming you for sexual history. Men on the other hand is entitled to their insecurity . This builds hate and animosity towards women for not behaving as such . It's also a detriment to the man . You could throw away potential good partners because of this indignation and entitlement in your your that's bee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 04:56 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Wait , so 15 men isn't promiscuous to you ? Do you think most men would consider this high ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 04:52 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Please demonstrate, Kevin Samuel told men it's ok to physically discipline your wife when she's " out of hand " if she consents to it . Is this also a preference to you ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .If a woman is practicing promiscuous behavior then of course run as far as you can . I'm speaking of men and women who were promiscuous in the past looking for a serious relationship not being shamed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 04:49 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .There's not a single study that suggest the correlation is the causation and you know it. Otherwise the typical study that is appealed to shows women are less likely to divorce at 9 partners than 3 . Are you seriously telling women they need 6 more partners to not lower their chances of divorce of they are at 3 ? I said I imagine , I didn't say anything objective like this community does. Either way it's childish to suggest that because a woman didn't find prince charming in her first relationsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 04:47 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Don't worry about it, I just don't want to have a conversation where we speak as if men being promiscuous is not an accepted perception. I'm I'm going to speak as if the men I'm addressing believe men should not be promiscuous either. Just isn't reality , Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 04:00 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .You are defining shaming as a preference. Women are expected to be mature judging the relationship by its on merit while men are expected to revel in their insecurity, or oblige a social perception and even appeal to studies and so on to justify the belief that promiscuous women aren't good wives . It builds animosity towards these women. We know men that kill sex workers have great indignation towards women having sex with multiple partners. Many of them say that's not what they should be doing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 03:58 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I've actually read papers and many documentary on the matter . And what do you mean that's not Christianity ? Do you not know of deuteronomy? Leveticus? I can give verses for everything I'm saying . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 03:00 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I am always surprised when someone from the outset just speaks as if a promiscuous woman doesn't value sex. And dont don't that value talk . This has nothing to do with value . If it was blatant sexism would not be normalized where it's perfectly ok generally for a man to be promiscuous but if a woman is it's the end of the world. This is about sexism, male insecurity , social perceptions and misogyny being normalized . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 02:58 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I didn't call you dumb but said to stop acting dumb . I provided 3 reasons , I don't know which but yes insecurity could be one. The problem is men are being primed to be emotional and entitled where women nowadays are just having to lie about their sexual history just appease these type of men . Women are expected to be mature judging the relationship by its on merit while men are expected to revel in their insecurity, or oblige a social perception and even appeal to studies and so on to justif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I've name 3 other reasons . I'm pretty exhausted, if you want to see the other reasons I've mentioned them a million times in other comments. . I'm trying to be respectful and respond to every person but it's quite tiring explaining the same points . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .You would think religion favors women . It doesn't, women are often by religious by the very things you mentioned. It's the man's feeling irrespective of how you are treated and then she must adapt. Of course it's easy to invoke a God to get women to behave how you want them to because it's in our your own self interest . You would think the feminist movement didn't happen because women were tired of being treated the way you want to treat them . Sure, you can find conservative women who've been… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .You are just saying you'll engage with women who'll let you control what they wear . If you feel uncomfortable irrespective of how you treat someone you'll leave the situation. This is exactly what I'm speaking about . You are only acting on your emotions and not considering anyone else. Good day , I hope you consider other people over the feelings you have. You are essentially saying it's my feelings or the highway irrespective of how I treat you . It's true entitlement | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .There's plenty of things that can you make you feel bad . A woman waking outside with a big bottom in leggings can make a man feel bad even uncomfortable however do you oppress her by telling her what to wear ? This is why I said men are being primed to be emotional, entitled and indignant while women are expected to be the mature ones . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .The conversation is about whether promiscuity warrants dismissal. You are so focused on whether women have a low body count on average that its getting weird. I'm not here to obsess over a woman sexual history . It doesn't matter to me if the average woman has slept with 10 to 5 men. At this point it seems like it's about making you feel better about the girls you meet in the future . Ultimately you can't tell a woman's body count . You have to badger her about her sexual history believing what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .What are you talking about the reason is because she was promiscuous. That's been known so why act dumb . Its either Insecurity Social perception Some belief by religion or some study A combination of those typically is what I hear . For you I'm sure it's probably just insecurity. You are so used to saying it and male insecurity is so normalized that you aren't embarrassed at all to say any of this . My guy it's just insecurity. Women are less conservative today and we know women life because me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Sin is just another word for immorality against God. Immoral acts against God may have absolutely nothing to do with human well being such as homosexuality, or just unreasonable punishment such as stoning a woman for not being a virgun because there was no bloody cloth. This misogyny has been going on for thousands of years . Yes most relationships are monogamous in their culture however being promiscuous prior is not shamed at all . What happened to that biological feeling we all have . Women a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Wow , you can't even see how this is detrimental to men as well . This is just toxic insecurity, beliefs or whatever your reason is. You are letting go of potential great women because of the demonization of promiscuous women. The thing is you could never know . You may very well love someone who was promiscuous. I just hope you get over whatever it is because if you found out no matter how long youve been together you'll end it abruptly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .20 percent is not that big considering where you are . I'd imagine those who live in the city are subjected to very small percent of women who are virgins compared to a more rural area. This is getting weird like some predation of virgin women so I'll drop it lol. All I was saying that women closer to the age of 25 on average won't have a 1 or 2 body count especially in the city. And you said men aren't worrying about 3 to 6 ? I don't know , it can be quite subjective. I've known men who said 5 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .We can both admit that most women are voluntary virgins. 3 to 6 ? Yes that's reasonable but 1 to 2 ? What age ? They must be young . Whatever , there's a study that provides data of voluntary virgin men . I'd imagine the availability of porn and hedonistic lifestyle we live today has led to it but 50 percent of men who stay at home are voluntary virgins . 50 percent of men who graduate with a bachelor degree is a voluntary virgin. I'll send the link if you want but this community never speaks ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Enjoy the lies of your future promiscuous wife . If you guys think girls aren't getting around in today society it's wishful thinking . I'd said the average 25 year old woman has a body count of 5 to 7 guys already. We got to get over it . As time goes on women are getting less conservative/Traditional. Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .That data comes from women and we know they lie . You seriously think most women have only slept with 2 guys ? That is wishful thinking . We are in the west which is the most liberal places to be. Talking about other cultures is not relevant. You do realize half the world marriages are arranged marriages correct ? Really not relevant to mention other cultures. Did you compare female promiscuity to a criminal past ? Lol , I had one guy compare it to stealing and another to racism. This comment se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 12:37 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .What ? You do realize that homosexuality is wrong in the bible yet gay marriage is legal , women are to be subservient to men but are free , the Bible condones slavery from exodus 21 , to the new testament ephesians 6:5 and so on yet its abolished. We have made progression from the Bible already. And purity culture is dying . To say we can't change anything is weird . It seems you just want to hold your views using any excuse to shame women for being promiscuous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Got it enough said , Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Ok , you cant seriously expect a promiscuous women to divulge the entirety of her sexual history to her friends. If so this is hilarious and creepy but weirdly ....I'd watch an inspector gadget show to watch a man investigate potential relationship candidate girlfriends to see if she's been promiscuous or not . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I'm not asking you to engage with a woman who is currently promiscuous but merely why break up with a woman if everything is going great because she was promiscuous In the past. And ti be clear you can't tell with certainty if a woman was promiscuous In the past. You are either Badgering her from the outset about her sexual history Convinced she's never been promiscuous by how she carries herself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Stealing lol ? I had another guy compare promiscuity to racism already lol . My goodness , you guys are something else . If misogyny wasn't such a bad thing this would be a good show idea . Men just joking about promiscuous women . But unfortunately this incredibly damaging . There's plenty of women who were promiscuous in the past now married. Even pornstars happily married. What do you say to them ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .You do realize that wanting the child to be of your blood is a choice . They even would kill women if they weren't virgins in ancient times . Let's get out of judeo-christian values for a second . In the Mosuo culture the man isn't responsible for the baby but the family is . The man after mating must go back home home his grandmother home where his sisters and brothers live to take care of the children his sisters and aunt produce . The man doesn't have to anything for his child and nor is he o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .You would think that you'd be able to discern whether a woman is promiscuous by such logic . Convince you that you are special? Man male insecurity is so normalized that you can present it in such a edgy jokey way and not feel embarrassed at all . Height is objective , beauty is not objective and dismissing a promiscuous woman is shaming in application. That's not a simple physical characteristic. You are shaming the woman for not waiting on you to put your thing inside of her . It's quite immat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .My guy did you read what I said . Promiscuous women don't need to be promiscuous forever correct ? Just like men are typically not promiscuous forever . With that said many people are in relationships with promiscuous women of the past . Women lie about body count because they know men like yourself will be over dramatic about it . Whether it's insecurity, social perception or just some prejudice. You can't discern if a woman was promiscuous In the past. You badger her from the outset to know ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I've noticed many here dont like answering questions or even presenting their view . You said I made assumptions ? then make me look like a dumbass and prove me wrong ? You just spoke of standards and I said those who hold to these so called " standards" are doing one of two things . Badgering women from the outset to find out their sexual history. Or Convincing yourself that she was never promiscuous in the past by how she carries herself . If I'm wrong then tell me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:55 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Prejudice is having a prejudement about something based on a characteristic, religion and so on . I'm asking you to explain your prejudice about promiscuous women . Unless you can see women body count above their head please explain. Do you just assume all the successful relationships you know of are of women who were never promiscuous? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Man honestly I just want to know how is racism comparable in any . Please explain | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Man , do you not feel embarrassed at all that women have to lie because we are too emotional? They are expected to be mature but we sit here as grown men speaking about badgering women from the outset to know how many men they slept with or just convincing ourselves by how she carries herself that she hasn't been promiscuous? Ultimately you can never tell if a woman was promiscuous In the past or not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:47 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .So says the person that badger women from the outset asking their sexual history just assume that a girl they are talking to isnt promiscuous by how she carries herself . You can't tell if a woman was promiscuous In the past . You just have to lie to yourself. It's another reason women lie because they don't want men to be so insecure about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .You literally just make crap up ? We know this is demonstrably false. At least you provided a reason though. I think many men here fear providing a reason to avoid a incoherent comment like yours . Plenty of pornstars who are married and promiscuous college women that got married . It amazes me that the Red pil l community who hold their mother in regard believe that 100 percent of their mothers were never promiscuous. This is nonsense and you know it deep down . We have to get over this insecur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .3 things Insecure Social perception Saw some study you interpreted as women being promiscuous to be bad . Usually one if those 3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .So far the response I've gotten as reasons . She may have a Std Get her tested then . I'm a virgin so though the chemistry may be there I'll still dismiss her if she's not a virgin . Just insecurity , vetting women from the outset to determine if they are a virgin. I don't think the relationship will last. No study whatsoever whatsoever back it up . If I broke up with a girl over racism would you call it insecurity? The most funny response so far . Guy comparing female promiscuity to racism . If… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .In application it's mostly definetly shaming women . There's not some perception that a promiscuous man is bad. Your position attempts to hide the shaming but its still there because you cant even provide one reason . There's literally no reason to dismiss someone because they were promiscuous in the past. I'm still a little dumbfounded that grown men are saying this without being embarrassed in the slightest . It's really telling of how insecurity, social perception and judeo-christian baggage … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .You guys could make physically disciplining your wife with her consent a preference. Insecurity /shaming is not a preference. Its almost as if you want to run from reasons as well. I've had only a few people provide a reason . It seems ro me that you know the reasons are BS | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .You guys could make physically disciplining your wife with her consent a preference. Insecurity /shaming is not a preference. Its almost as if you want to run from reasons as well. I've had only a few people provide a reason . It seems ro me that you know the reasons are BS | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .How is being insecure a standard. Fine I want a woman who will let me play games all day a standard . Selfishness is not a standard . Just admit it's 3 reasons , social perception, insecurity, or appealing to a study you interpreted incorrectly to justify It | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Just tell them to get tested . Not difficult, is thst seriously the only concern | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Ok so you just have a bias . You assume those you know who have successful marriages were never promiscuous and unsuccessful marriages could have been because of promiscuity. Your belief is a typical one rather i should say the default to conservatives especially. No reason to demonize promiscuous women . Just like promiscuous men they can have successful marriages and do . Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .If enough men are insecure/ or cater to the perception, and have daughters teaching them to behave as such then you have created a society in which women are oppressed. They are already shamed enough already. Essentially you get a light version of Saudi Arabia. I'll just end it here because we all have reasons as to why we do something. The reason literally leads to the act . Without the reason there is no action . You cant take out insecurity/social male perception from not engaging in promiscu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .You are like the 10th person so far thats expressed this prejudice. What baggage ? Please explain | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .You have to demonstrate that or you just have a typical prejudice that most likely comes from judeo-christian values. You seriously going to tell me tou know the body count of all the successful marriages you know of ? You dont know if they were promiscuous or not . Substantiate your belief . Demonstrably today women are married who was promiscuous In the past, even retired pornstars are in successful marriages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Lmao did you compare racism to being promiscuous? My goodness thanks for the laugh . Ok please tell me how is a woman being promiscuous is comparable to a racist . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Yes , that's called a prejudice my guy . Typical demonization of women who are promiscuous while men get no such demonization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I don't why know you are all ignoring the incel ideology that presents women in a shallow way blaming them . Naturally women will insult those who insult them who rather blame women that themselves for their predicament. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:47 PM |
| 2 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Please tell me buddy . I'd love to hear a new reason | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Yes , you just have a prejudice . Like I said , Many Red pill mothers held in high regard that were plowed in college . I know this community also thinks they can tell a women body count by mannerism and so on which is an association fallacy. This belief literally feeds itself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I know what it means . I dont why we are ignoring the incel community beliefs . Whatever , good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Stopped at agree, good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .This is analogous to saying I just want to neglect my children and wife all day playing video games. Long as the women understand that he will be busy playing games i see no problem with it. Im removing the selfishness aspect of that scenario and you are removing the shaming and insecurity from this scenario. You realize you haven't provided me a reason ? Because there is no legitimate reason. It's just women being shamed for having sex before they met him . That's literally it , if you keep bab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .That's just a nonsensical belief . You realize I'm a man ? And you realize some women love a man who hasn't slept around ? I've seen women eyes light up when they find out the guy is a virgin. Let me guess I'm fighting my nature or something? Hoe convenient is your belief to justify men being promiscuous and then even imply women don't care about how many women a man has sleep with. That not a biological wiring right ? Watch a video called the kingdom of women . Women are exlected to be promiscu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Yes it increases because it's who I getting married. I'd imagine anyone who marries the first person they have sex with probably has a low quality marriage. Just because a marriage last doesnt mean its a good one. I would argue 3 marriages that last 10 years could have been more happier unions than someone married for 30 years . Marriage are always the highest when a woman can't unilaterally divorce, low access to birth control , dont make equal pay or money at all and heavy social pressure to d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .You live in a fantasy world . Women aren't in mass saying that . I'm guessing you think that women love men who sleep around . And of course it matters. Men with the same logic you have would say women like staying at home being traditional mothers but then we had the feminist movements because women had dreams too. I'm a man and won't teach my daughter to get with man who will dismiss you for being promiscuous. What's happening is that women are reported to just lie to ease your insecurity. Men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Lol I think It's something wrong with a woman as well at that age . It's just curiosity though . Nothing wrong with being curious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Not sleeping? No , imagine being in a relationship and you realize through the grapevine she was promiscuous In the past ? To break up with her is either insecurity or confirming to a conservative social perception by men . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I'm a man buddy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .A preference? How is insecurity a preference? How is telling women to be your submissive slaves a preference? How is badgering women about their past sexual history to know their body count a preference? A physical characteristic characteristics definitely a preference. I want to be clear because we are considering the ill treatment of someone as a preference. For example, if a man said he wants a woman who let's him physically discipline her when she's out of hand for preference? You are speaki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .I'm using Promiscuous as just having alot of partners in the past . For example a woman seeking a genuine relationship may have had 4 to 6 different partners in 10 years . And I'm also encompassing women who are promiscuous In the general sense of engaging in sex with multiple partners without a relationship. A woman being promiscuous doesn't preclude her from finding sex to be exclusively romantic. It's also some prejudice thrown around when it comes to promiscuous women . First just admit you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Do you understand that probably about 50 to 65 percent of men hold that view especially conversative? Do you realize how that coerce women to behave ? We need to shut this entitlement, emotional insecurity down in the root . Like I said , women are not likely going to find their prince charming in their first relationship. This is just child immature thinking demonizing women for engaging in authentic relationships. This is not something to be passive about . Women are expected to be the mature … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .You do realize that incel shame women ? Forget for a second the beliefs you may agree with . The beliefs they they most definitely present women in a very shallow light . You do agree with that correct ? Naturally women are going to speak against that . And virgin is just a typical insult thrown around even to Red pill men by other men who spew misogyny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 09:57 PM |
| -1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .😄 you would think the standards are set independent from a standard set by male perception Let's not speak as if we have some nuance standard . These standards are based on insecurity and the sense of validation from other men . Theyve been here for hundreds of years under judeo-christian values . Social pressure is real when your friends, family or just acquaintances find out your significant other is a pornstar . You speak of security? Yea right, men of your ilk would drop a girl in a second n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .That's not the real world . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .That's because you have nonsensical beliefs by the demonization of women who are promiscuous. You just have a prejudice towards women insulting their character because of it . Meanwhile there may be women in your life who you hold in high regard who was promiscuous In the past . Its also this sense of validation from other men I see of your ilk seek as well . We tend to care too much about what other men think. I've seen men be in love but break up with a girl because his boys didn't approve of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Why we need to stop being EMOTIONAL INSECURE men when it comes to Promiscuous women . And why we need to stop Demanding women be our submissive slaves .Women shame virgins ? What world you live in . If I ask just a regular guy right now most will say a promiscuous past is a no no however if I ask women is it bad for a man to be a virgin you won't see such a unanimous consensus . Remember men make the perceptions. You are speaking about a small selection of women who are speaking against the hate they recieve from the incel community throwing shaming at them instead . Women aren't out here in mass shaming virgin men . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 09:34 PM |
| 7 | Women when a women expresses a preference: she can have whatever standards she wants. Women when men express a preference: he's misogynistic, insecure ect...Well women are just expected to be Mature adults . A woman may be insecure like a man however they are expected to be mature and judge the relationship by its own merit and not shame people for their past promiscuous behavior. Also conservative men tend to ask women to be submissive slaves for them . Forget gender for a second , that's not how you treat people. Submission is not a word that should be used in regards to relationships . If it was at least fair it'd be one thing but men make the pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 08:34 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Please read comments. I've answered this a million times . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 07:03 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .You guys make up new labels all the time . Some explain how blue pill is it's own ideology and then people use blue pill as if its reactionary pejorative to Red pill . Whatever , it boils down to you making crap up by data/Studies to justify your beliefs disagreeing with popular Red pillers who do the same thing. This Cult must do this because without the appeal to soft sciences you just have a belief . You can at least hide your belief by some pretense of actually trying to understand the data … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 07:02 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .I have no clue what blue pill means . I dont follow all these labels . Best possible offspring ? You speaking of hypergamy or something? I'm guessing you believe women are hypergamous by nature or something. And there's reddit , forums or what have you of millions of men and women who don't wish to procreate. Did you know in Japan about 25 percent of women and men are virgins from ages 20 to 30 ? Many of them are voluntary virgins. Women take on about 90 percent of the household work such as cle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 06:31 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Well many of them will just tell men to use your wealth as leverage to treat women how they wouldn't want to be treated if they weren't rich. They lack character and only think about what they want irrespective of anyone else . Yes , a woman may let you sleep with other women because she wants that lifestyle but it doesn't mean its not a terrible act to cheat on your wife when you know she doesn't want you too . Is there a threshold is what I ask them . Kevin Samuels told men it's ok to physical… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 05:09 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Methodology Look at data / correlations, suggest a generalization and make a biological inferences. Red pillers inferences may be different but the key belief is that women and men are fundamentally different ; Having beliefs that are in the men favor typically traditional ones . To say that there is nothing to expand on suggest that there is objective method you are using and it's not . You are sitting here telling me that this Red piller inference is wrong because the guy I like didn't say it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 04:28 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Kevin Samuels is the same guy that told men it's ok to physically discipline your wife If she consents to it . He took his time to shame black women , and shame women who didn't fit his objective standard of beauty calling them too fat and so on . Kevin Samuels told men and women who wish to engage in hypergamy how to do it and pushed bad values and bigoted views on people. I can name plenty of high value men who I know are with women that Kevin Samuel fans would consider a 5/10 in the face , fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 04:23 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Like I said to make an appeal and dismiss others would need an objective method to determine what something is . The literature /community are laymen using soft sciences as a basis for your ideology. In soft sciences you'll see different conclusions on the same topic because we are ultimately dealing with human behavior. To dismiss others who are also making an inference just tells you your bias . This community speaks of virgin men for example but don't speak about the surge of men who are volu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 04:12 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Yes.....women and men are not different at all .......They are absolutely the same!!!!!! Thats exactly what I said in the Topic and comments.......its no way you are trying to make a argument out of nothing because you choose to not seek an honest understanding of what I wrote by a pugnacious personality . Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 02:44 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .It's definitely a Cult at this point . I understand you don't want acknowledge them as Red pill and refuse to accept that any of them can expand the ideology outside your precious books but they do . You just aren't willing to accept them as expanding the ideology | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 02:40 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .This is not the point of the topic . Would rather focus on the topic than to critique the leveraging of wealth to treat people how they wouldn't want to be treated otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 02:33 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .What you said is analogous to reading the Bible telling others they can just simply take the good and ignore the claim of a God. I'm speaking about what is happening and not what you wish would happen. Young men are being taught that descriptions lead to objective prescriptions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 02:31 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .You don't get oughts from descriptions. . Maybe read the comments to better understand that . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 02:29 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Thats not what I said . I'm exhausted by this response. I've answer this numerous times in the comment and even in the topic. Read the entire Topic or go read the comments. Good day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 02:28 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .I just used them as an example . It's not as if they are the only ones giving out prescriptions by descriptions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 02:26 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .You can be in denial but I'm not getting into some semantic game . What you may call Red pill is not considered Red pill by most . I don't really see the reason to grant your right to this label because you are not the one who decides who is Red pill . Just because someone says something you don't like doesn't mean they aren't Red pill nor does it mean they can't expand the Red pill ideology themselves . You speak as if this ideology is objective or something . This community really needs to und… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 03:56 AM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .You dismiss the millions of young men who are convinced that descriptions lead to prescriptions . I'm speaking of what's happening and not some obscure ideology you wish Red pill was . No one cares about that . Millions of young men are watching Andrew tate . They aren't reading literature. I understand your frustration but what you speak of in application is not what Red pill is today . Young men aren't reading literature . They are brought in this community by friends and media. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 01:27 AM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .I knew someone would appeal to this . Dismiss the millions of young men who are convinced that descriptions lead to prescriptions by saying " Who gives a fuq what Red pill youtubers say ? " ........ I don't even know what to say in response to a comment like this especially when you mention Andrew tate as if he wasn't one of the most influential of this community. The guy had a tik tok of over 4 billion views . You are just in denial . I understand you may not like how the ideology is being port… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 01:22 AM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .No one in the Red pill community can say that Fresh and fit aren't giving out prescriptions by descriptions. I used them for examples but there's dozens of other big Red Pillers employing the same tactic to convince young men that descriptions lead to oughts . I wanted to keep this topic only about the is-ought problem but I could easily going into why an ideology based on soft sciences serves to be cultish as well. Using terms like Pair bonding that wasn't even used for our species or looking a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 12:28 AM |
| 2 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .You aren't understanding at all what I'm saying . Of course women and men are different but they aren't complete opposites of each other. When you believe the later you'll hyperfixate on studies interpreting the data by your belief reaching conclusions the scientist themselves wouldn't dare say . I don't want to get too biggest down by that but I never said you have to base your idealist on science to not be a cult but rather Red pill appeal to science to justify its beliefs in a dishonest way .… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 12:26 AM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Did you read the topic in its entirety ? I granted that everything Myron said or just the Red pill community as a true description for the sake of discussion. I've used this examples a million times in the comment already but I'll do it here . I'm not saying I agree or disagree with Myron. I'm only speaking about the ought/Prescription thereafter. For example " Men should seek polyamorous relationships if they can't commit to one woman . Search for a woman who is fine with a polyamorous relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 12:17 AM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .That's not what I said at all . In just simple terms "Men who can't commit should perhaps seek polyamorous relationship so you aren't bound to one women" Nothing wrong with the above statement right ? Now let's say I said "Women and men are different therefore men ought to be able to sleep with other women in a relationship because we can be faithful and sleep around but a woman can't sleep with other men and be faithful. Also a woman seeks security in a relationship so we ought to be satisfied … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 12:07 AM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Not a leader but something or someone they venerate by the Google definition which would be women here . I personally constitute this community as Cult by the latter . Young men and especially lonely men is the target audience for this community. There's other aspects that makes this a cult such as basing an ideology by soft sciences, making conclusions the scientist themselves wouldn't make by data/correlations to justify your belief that women and men are diametrically opposed to one another. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 11:41 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .No one in the Red pill community can say that Fresh and fit aren't giving out prescriptions by descriptions. I used them for examples but there's dozens of other big Red Pillers employing the same tactic to convince young men that descriptions lead to oughts . I wanted to keep this topic only about the is-ought problem but I could easily going into why an ideology based on soft sciences serves to be cultish as well. Using terms like Pair bonding that wasn't even used for our species or looking a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 11:21 PM |
| 3 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .If only that was the case . If you are seriously part of the community you know for a fact that prescriptions are smuggled in with descriptions all the time. That fine line is leaped over all the time when it comes to this community. If a Red Piller told men that have a hard time with commitment to search for women who are accepting of polyamorous relationships I wouldn't call it a cult; however when you say men and women are different or appeal to some study to justify your ought we have a prob… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 10:20 PM |
| 0 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Well said , In application young men are invoking descriptions such as " women and men are different " to justify whatever ought the community has decided on . It builds entitlement and a sense of indignation towards women who don't oblige. " They are " rejecting " their female nature" and so on is what I hear from this community all the time . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 09:57 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Exactly, fresh and fit particular tell men that a woman will let you sleep with other women if you are high value . They are literally telling men to use your wealth as leverage so women will let you treat them how they wouldn't want to be treated if you weren't wealthy . It's quite dishonest of him to say that Red pill is not about women but just self improvement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 09:48 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Hmm I didn't say any of that? I just spoke on what you said about women and this community . I never said that was particularly wrong. I'm curious did you read my post in its entirety? The whole point of my post about the problem of descriptions leading to prescriptions . If I'm a Christian man and a Red piller says men and women are different, men provide the security a woman wants so naturally a man should be allowed to be sexually satisfied and sleep with other in a relationship there's a pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 09:45 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .When you speak of " useful" I presume you are speaking about the knowledge of a description to understand a behavior perhaps but not the ought . Like i said , if Red pill just gave out data that's fine or just said we believe this is how men and women should behave I wouldn't call it a cult either however when you smuggle in prescriptions along the descriptions there's a problem. For example , we are polyamorous by nature but many of us agree especially religious that we shouldn't sleep with oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 09:36 PM |
| 2 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Hmm that's not what I said ? I even above granted that any description the Red pill community has come up with as true for the sake of discussion. My point is about the ought that comes after the fact that women and men are different. A Christian man nor women won't agree with the oughts they put forward . The Red pill community hides its oughts in its descriptions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 09:27 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .I'm not comparing this group to anything but judging it by its own merit . It would be nice if it promoted self improvement independent of women but you know as well as I do that men don't seek the Red pill community to simply get advice for working out but it's to ultimately attract women. To say that Red pill has nothing to do with women or suggest it has just a little to do with women is quite dishonest. They understand what young men watch them for and cater to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 09:24 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Well a cult is particularly veneration for a figure ( women ) and having sinister beliefs which Red pill is full of having. When I mentioned a cult I was really speaking about descriptions leading to prescriptions and the indoctrinationof young men by it . It's best to lay out definitions or otherwise we can call anything a cult . Telling young men that descriptions objectively lead to the oughts of this community builds entitlement and animosity for those who don't oblige. I hear young men all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 09:03 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Well a cult is particularly veneration for a figure ( women ) and having sinister beliefs which Red pill is full of having. When I mentioned a cult I was really speaking about descriptions leading to prescriptions and the indoctrinationof young men by it . It's best to lay out definitions or otherwise we can call anything a cult . Telling young men that descriptions objectively lead to the oughts of this community builds entitlement and animosity for those who don't oblige. I hear young men all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 08:55 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .They claim alot of things but the entirety of their advice even when it comes to working out is in effort to get a woman . They'll tell you to focus on becoming a high value man and that women will come naturally . They understand their audience and give advice based on the assumption by the viewers that ultimately it will lead to women . To disconnect women from Red pill advice would be dishonest . Women are the integral core . Without women there is no Red pill . On a side thought when Red pil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 08:48 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Yes its an ideology that hides its prescriptions/oughts in its descriptions. That's why it's so dangerous. The most dangerous places for women to live is where the indignation is the highest for how you ought to behave. Telling young men , given a descriptions leads to a prescription is indoctrination. You are creating close minded young men who can only view the dynamics between men and women by one lens that you have decided yourself . Now someone who is more conservative or very religious may… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 08:42 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .The definition of a cult is veneration for a particular figure and having sinister belief. Red pill venerate women, I know that may sound odd to say but the sense of validation, status and so on comes from women . When it comes to sinister beliefs there's all sort of prescriptions they hand out which is considered misogynistic outside the community. Lastly it's the convincing of young men that descriptions lead to oughts which is false . This is a false belief and incredibly damaging. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 08:34 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .The definition of a cult is veneration for a particular figure and having sinister belief. Red pill venerate women, I know that may sound odd to say but the sense of validation, status and so on comes from women . When it comes to sinister beliefs there's all sort of prescriptions they hand out which is considered misogynistic outside the community. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 08:31 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .My point has nothing to do with generalizations but rather objective descriptions being used to give out prescriptions/oughts . The Red pill community would be a more honest community if they just said from the outset that we believe men and women ought to behave this way ( in the selfish interest of the man ) rather than teaching young men that descriptions leads to oughts in where anyone who doesn't oblige is being selfish . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 08:27 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental reason as to why Red pill is a Cult .Exactly , agree with everything you said and trust me I know they are coming lol 😆 . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 08:23 PM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?I'm not missing anything . People are just so accepting of discrimination by sex being normalized that you can't even see how it applies to race . Are you a person of color ? I know if this was some woke reddit it would be a unanimous agreement that black people should be allowed to demand a black therapist to feel comfortable but here time and time again people don't acknowledge the level of discomfort black people feel . | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 11:32 PM |
| 0 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?Buddy I told you above I'm looking for people who want to engage in the discussion and not this . Wasting my time , good day | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 03:30 PM |
| 0 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?Only if I said white people or any other race can't undergo trauma. We account for 40 percent of the crime being only 12 percent of the population so I'm sure some white people have some trauma but business will only cater to gender . People can go somewhere else for a female ? So why ask them explicitly ? If they get asked what gender then they can ask what race too | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 03:17 PM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?Good day | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 03:14 PM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?You are the one appealing to this muddying the waters. A transwoman can get reassignment surgery and boom , instantly you will accept her demand for a female massage therapist . The reason doesn't matter at all . The standard is about how comfortable one is . You literally are just saying our society is fine with discrimination by sex rather than race to justify our perception today when you know darn well that we were segregated and discriminated by race before and there was no appeals to this … | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 05:53 AM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?You are just saying you don't care . Nothing logical about what you are saying. Interestingly enough I've had people in the comment section that said it's fine if someone said they wanted a certain race because it's Ultimately about that person being comfortable. Are you black BTW? When I hear someone dismiss people of color seeking to be comfortable saying that it doesn't matter unless it's important enough to you it makes me think you are disconnected to how isolated a group may feel by race . | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 04:55 AM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?Of course if a white woman wants a white woman for a massage then she should be able to demand it because it makes her comfortable. The standard has been based on how comfortable someone is so naturally that logically follows . I don't understand the red herring it seems you are throwing out . It seems like you are essentially saying we socially except discrimination by sex however socially Is not accepted . It sounds like you are saying not enough people care about the feelings of people of col… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 02:14 AM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?Good day | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 02:08 AM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?The standard has been about how comfortable someone is and now you are saying someone of color expressing they are uncomfortable doesn't matter because you get to decide by the time and place ? It's irrelevant, the point is that someone is uncomfortable. Why mention something that has absolutely nothing to do with whether you'd accept the demand of someone who is genuinely telling you they are comfortable. This is simple but you seem to throw red herrings around rather than answer the question t… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 01:54 AM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?Why is it an asshole thing to do ? I don't why suddenly people think you can't have a legitimate reason to want a black massage therapist and so on. When it comes to women you would never appeal to such a characterization like you just did about hair and bbq ribs but when it's someone of color saying they feel more comfortable you characterize their request in such a way. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 01:50 AM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?Oh then just say that's how it is . I'm looking for people to actually engage in the question from a logical standpoint and not appeal to our society thinks its permissible therefore its permissible. Slavery was permissible at one point , color only school or bathrooms where too . I understand you speak from a position of complacency by conformity but some people don't just lay down with the times . Nothing gets changed that way . 80 years ago you would just say schools are segregated so get ove… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 01:47 AM |
| 2 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?That's what I thought i said . Sorry about that , I've been trying to message everyone here so it must have auto-typed or something . I meant to say you believe it's ethical for someone to demand a black therapist just like a woman demanding a female therapist. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 12:58 AM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?That's what I'm asking you . I'm asking you to acknowledge people of color not being comfortable just like you did in regards to women . | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 12:53 AM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?Ok just to be clear , you don't think it's ethical for a consumer to demand a black therapist in the same way a woman may ask for a female therapist. If so thanks for answering my question | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 12:52 AM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?Ok then someone should be allowed to demand a black therapist . If it's about the right to decide who touches your body then a business should be accepting of people who demand a therapist by race just like they do sex . | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 12:50 AM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?This reminds me of a business owner they talked to on the news . He said he wasn't racist but most his customers ate comfortable around other white people so he only hires white people . Why would he hire black people if they aren't bringing in any business ? Also just want to mention that normalized standards can change perceptions . Meaning women who may not be neccesarily uncomfortable with a man will feel compelled to get a woman when asked the question. Someone who is black may not think ab… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 12:47 AM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?Why does it have it to be non-bigoted? It's not like they ask all women do you just hate men . It's understood that a woman may not feel comfortable so you oblige but if a black person says they want a black massage therapist we all of sudden have to go through a gauntlet of questions as to why . Just to be clear some women prefer a man since they tend to be stronger applying pressure in certain spots so it's not all women . With that said I'm sure some women may have some bigoted views towards … | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 12:36 AM |
| – | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?I honestly have no clue of what you are talking about . Maybe I'm just too slow but can you please make it more simple. Also just to clarify I'm asking people a question by a standard we've set which is by how comfortable someone is . By this logic people who have undergone trauma by race or just feel comfortable around the same race should be able to also demand a black therapist and it should be nothing wrong with it . I'm asking people do they acknowledge the level of comfort someone may have… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 12:31 AM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?I don't understand, you said its not justified and the q couple sentences later say it's justified. I want to provide the wiki definition of discrimination. Discrimination is the act of making distinctions between people based on the groups, classes, or other categories to which they belong or are perceived to belong.[1] People may be discriminated on the basis of race, gender, age, religion, disability, or sexual orientation, as well as other categories.[2 Just to be clear that discrimination d… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 12:21 AM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?I don't know how to explain to people that trauma by race is real . For some reason you think someone who is black should feel perfectly fine being massaged by someone who is white despite the trauma. You don't decide how comfortable someone is. Hand waving them is just showing how little you think of them being comfortable. If the standard is whether someone is comfortable then you can't just hand wave deciding how people feel by other immutable characteristics. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 12:17 AM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?I see , you believe discrimination is justified even if the person was racist because the end goal is for people to be comfortable. Thank you for actually answering the question. Very few people feel comfortable actually answering the question. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/22 11:59 PM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?Didn't say discrimination was inherently bad though I feel certain people have that assumption. It seems you admit that a business discriminating is wrong but then appeal to morality being subjective by your view so ultimately what is ethical depending on the person . | /r/MensRights | 23/09/22 11:56 PM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?I agree , I've met many black people that has experienced trauma and don't want white people especially in regards to many activities but at the same time you would be discriminating against those work there by their race. At that point should a business be compelled to oblige and is it ethical for a business to oblige thereby discriminating against its therapist by race . I think your answer is good but how comfortable someone is by gender , race and so on is subjective. It seems we acknowledge… | /r/MensRights | 23/09/22 10:02 PM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?I don't understand how people don't accept trauma by race . I'm black and have met many black people who don't want other races except black in regards to many activities because they aren't comfortable. Alot of times we just deal with the activity however it doesn't mean we are comfortable. So my question is why don't you accept trauma by race ? | /r/MensRights | 23/09/22 09:55 PM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?Can you explain the difference ? To me they were both equally bad . If someone said they don't want to buy a phone from a shop because it's black owned or said I don't want a massage from a black person I would see them equally as bad . I don't want to harp on that too much because that's not the question though. The question is whether it's ethical for not the consumer, but the businesses themselves to cater to such preferences. So a business would ask do you prefer a woman or a man ? Or white … | /r/MensRights | 23/09/22 09:52 PM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?Best answer I've seen so far but this" simplified idealism " as you call it is merely an appeal to how our society views gender. You are essentially saying that's just how it is . Logically there is no reason that someone who is black can't ask for another black person for a variety of activities because it makes them feel comfortable. All you said was that women aren't comfortable and it's socially accepted but when I mention there's many immutable characteristics that can make someone more com… | /r/MensRights | 23/09/22 09:46 PM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?I believe he's a independent contractor . It seems you are saying it's justified based on how comfortable you are correct ? I meet people all the time who say they are more comfortable with other black people . If a business catered to those preferences would it be ethical to discriminate against white therapist or sex the only immutable characteristic you think should be discriminated against ? | /r/MensRights | 23/09/22 09:23 PM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?That's not my question, I'm asking if it's ethical for a business to do it . You aren't speaking from a normative position. I'm asking is it immoral for a business to cater to someone preference who may want a white woman to massage them thereby discriminating against the black therapist | /r/MensRights | 23/09/22 09:14 PM |
| 1 | My friend a male massage therapist recently lost most his clients because his place of work started asking for gender preferences. Is this ethical? and if so should we normalize gender discrimination and other immutable characteristics as well ?I'm not speaking about going to a business seeing only men and walking our but I'm asking is it ethical for men to be discriminated in this way. Should we allow businesses to cater to people preferences because it makes them more comfortable which incidentally serves as discrimination. Pick any immutable characteristic you want ? Sex? Race ? If someone asked for a white women is it ethical for a business to provide that discriminating against the black therapist that work there because it makes … | /r/MensRights | 23/09/22 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?Power and influence necessitate wealth inequality? They are all benefiting from it though. I get what you a saying but I think it's a lack of understanding the culture . I could point out that their outcome is a good indication of it because we know inequality of wealth causes crime yet since time immemorial with a peak of 300,000 there's no jails and while the anthropologist report that here is theft very rarely it's so miniscule its not even worth mentioning . | /r/MensRights | 03/09/22 06:35 PM |
| 2 | Reasons why patriarchy theory is irrelevant to modern Western culture.He's right , this why the social sciences are considered soft sciences and some scientist don't even consider them science . It's because ultimately they are dealing with human behavior so the variables are difficult to control for. It's considered impossible to replicate a study because of this . So much of it is just looking at data and making an inference. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/22 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?What can a woman offer that man cant outside intimacy and sex? | /r/MensRights | 03/09/22 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?I'm not going to consider a society a primitive lifestyle to be necessarily lesser . I know Americans especially look at primitive people and think of how awful their life must be but to them they are enjoying their life . Not every society is material like America where you bring up money in of itself as if it necessitates a better society . You don't need to be rich to be happy and nor do you need possessions. Survival for some is all that's neccesary to enjoy all other aspects of life . And y… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?Obviously not what I said . Just read the first sentence that claimed I said merely because of the word when I literally said the concept above being more so important . No need to read any of what you said further. You didn't come here to have a good faith argument. Continue ranting and please leave . Good day | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?It's more so the concept and not just the word . If you can't find the word then just look for a concept of description which wasn't present . Being technologically advanced is a preference you have and doesn't mean a society is better off because of it neccesarily. You can live a healthy primitive life . And if you think it's a troll post then go away . I dont even know why your types post as if you want some attention or something . Good day | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?I don't understand what you are saying . Do you disagree with red pill? That women not being attracted to emotional men biologically therefore you should always confide in your bros? | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?I see , I was only speaking of rape but yes I'm also curious would the others things be possible to Eliminate virtually as well | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 09:06 AM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?No jails , inequality of wealth , no rape or crime , no murder. Those outcomes | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 08:55 AM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?It's just not a competitive society and with society limited by technology I don't see it . Like I said huge groups of people together and benefit collectively. If you are willing to switch a baby so the other family can be more balance by gender which has happened though rare in that culture Imagine what else you'll do for your neighbor or just how you view them. They are your family, when I hear you speak it sounds like you think of this culture as big groups operating with its own interests l… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 08:25 AM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?At their peak the mosuo numbered over 300,000 and they've been practicing this since time immemorial. Theres no jails In their culture. They report its a few theft but it so insignificant that it doesn't warrant even creating a jail . I'd say not having jails is a good indication of wealth inequality | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 07:53 AM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?Did you know a precedent set in Louisiana iirc permitted men to beat their wives with something no bigger than their thumb because like you mentioned the man was responsible so therefore he should have a right to discipline. And it's up to the man. Trust me the men aren't forced . The men can inform the woman that he doesn't want to engage or even stop the relationship and it's over. The stigma of divorce isn't present | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 07:23 AM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?If everyone on your street lived In the same house, benefiting from the same business and was helping to take care of everyone in the house in a less technological society do you it would be more about community and not so much about being people trying to rise above each independently in capitalistic system creating inequality | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 07:19 AM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?A man can refuse a walking marriage which is how courtship is practiced there so those comparison are not warranted. Would you be against the 1950s where men owned the properties and businesses , created the perceptions and so on ? | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 06:45 AM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?Watch a video called the kingdom of women to get a gist . It's a really short video and you won't regret it . No one leaves their grandmother house . You stay there for life . This is a culture about community and lacks possessiveness. Though rare they may swap babies if they needed a balance of genders in the home . The culture doesn't really have this possessiveness like we do but merely take care of each other . The distinction between your mother or grandmother is small in regards to respect… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 06:41 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?A gay relationship would be ideal . By their own admission they admit a man can offer something exclusive which a woman can't. It's literally just sex and intimacy. Don't you think it's beneficial to confide in your partner when emotional then to hide it from your partner because you she make see you as weak ? Honestly if I believed what the red pill community does I would most definitely rather be gay . If I can't confide in my women then that's that's huge aspect of the relationship lost . I'm… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 06:31 AM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?Do you think men who want it to be like the 1950s again wrong ? Where the men owned everything , worked , own the companies , and perceptions created by men and so forth? Some refer to the 1950s as the best in America history | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 06:27 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?The point was that this philosophy is cutting off half the population. I don't subscribe so I acknowledge that a woman and man can be someone you confide in however if you are in a relationship which so many get that aspect from you had better hope you have bros because your philosophy Cuts off half the population. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 06:25 AM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?I'm more so speaking of the concept but language is definitely a good metric to see what is going on . If you see don't see anything descriptive by the language then just look for the concept if a label hasn't manifested yet . You can harp on the word if you want but its really the concept not being present which is even more amazing . And yep I'm asking if a society dominated by women preferable if the outcomes are better than ours . First I'm not neccesarily saying a society dictated by men ca… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 06:06 AM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?Interesting take 🤔 , I will definitely think about this. Don't want to give a half baked response . | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 05:49 AM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?Well words are used to serve as some utility. It sounds like you are saying a woman can rape whoever she wants and it won't be considered rape in our society . I don't want to go into that because the word rape is still used to describe someone who has sex without your consent . No matter how it's implemented the word is still present in some shape or form . The Concept isn't present at all . I would urge you to watch a short video called the kingdom of women that gives you a gist because though… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 05:44 AM |
| 1 | Is a large scale society without rape impossible?Even if the outcomes were better ? There's no jails , no rape, no inequality of wealth in their culture . Do you think the outcomes are worth it or the sexism just unacceptable? | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?Lmaooo 😆 | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?Have you seen studies that said straight men ( allegedly) were aroused more of the sight of a big penis during a porno than a small penis during a porno. Do you think this is an indication of being homosexuality? | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?The point was that you'd be happier if you were born gay because of women biologically to turn down men for looking weak by expressing emotions when something awful happens by red pill philosophy. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 02:27 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?I was just speaking hypothetically. In a pragmatic sense to address the issue I'd say an attractive transwoman that has undergone reassignment surgery. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?Thank you for the honesty . I always find it interesting to hear other people perspectives because it makes me view the world in a way that I may have not viewed before. Thank you for the conversation Sir . Good day | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 01:48 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?Oh I see , then I will ask you the same question. I'm curious , is there anything exclusive to a woman that you can't experience from a man outside intimacy and sex ? | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?Well I dont know about that now . I'm not willing to cast that generalization on them but I understand your point . Thanks for the discussion | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?I see , so you disagree with the red pill messaging that women are biologically turned of from a man being emotional because its a feminine feature which may make her feel uncomfortable. You seem to be saying culture has demonized men therefore women treat men like crap making men only want to confide in other men. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?I dont subscribe to them . In fact I was trying to convince men that women are great to confide in but I was met with stories that you wouldn't believe . They have their reasons trust me though I can't invalidate their experiences by mine to oppose their generalization. It just came to me that these guys would be better of being born gay with their philosophy. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?I respect you for sharing all this. I've heard similar stories especially by the Red pill community. You seem as convinced like many of whom I've spoken too. I can't change someone perception and I even think by what you experienced that it's not necessarily a bad inference . I'm just saying that the red pill community seems to not believe that women can offer anything that a man can't outside intimacy sex. It naturally follows that same sex relationships would be the ideal. Of course I know you… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?I simply said I'm confused and ask direct questions in which I was confused by . Sometimes you can ask someone to explain and you still don't understand what they mean by their rhetoric delivery . All you had to say that you disagree with the generalization but do acknowledge that men in this community may think that . By my experience it seems like fair generalization though. Good day | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 01:01 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?I was only mentioning that by their philosophy that if they were born gay they would have a partner who you could always confide in opposed to a woman . That's all , I think that logically follows by their philosophy | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?I know for a fact that women are great to confide in but what I've witnessed so far that so many Red pill men are convinced despite of what I say . It just seems they would be more happier if born Gay to have a partner to confide in emotionally. Also all men don't have bros they can rely on . | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?Well the assumption is that they are born gay . If you are born gay wouldn't it better to have a partner you can confide in when emotional. By the red pill community a woman can't offer that because you may be deemed weak in which a woman will find a better high value man . | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?I'm confused? Do you not acknowledge the men I speak or you feel I'm casting an unfair generalization of red pill men ? Fresh and fit are red pill to my knowledge and so is the audience of men I've spoken to . Provided that what I said is true do you think they would be more happier as gay men? Also all men don't have bros to confide in . The advice I've seen is that you risk being weak if you ever confide in women. You see the dilemma here ? | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 12:13 AM |
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