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I'll send a text. And yeah, I rarely bother listening to my voicemails too.
/r/seduction10/06/14 08:09 AM
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Awesome mate. Good idea.
/r/seduction03/06/14 01:53 PM
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Erm.. sarcasm or no? I can't tell.. Either way, it doesn't have to be a candlelit dinner in a hot air balloon over the sahara. Just different enough, which could just mean 1 - 2%. You don't have to innovate to improve. For me, it was just about getting out of default mode and doing something slightly different.
/r/seduction03/06/14 12:54 AM
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Guess it all depends. It's more of a "couldn't hurt to blast out one last text on old leads" kind of mentality. I'm not overly invested in any one in particular. I'll probably group text to save time.
/r/seduction03/06/14 12:48 AM
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Yeah I use the first few hours to just be social and have fun so even when I do talk to the hottest girls it's just flirty banter without overtly hitting on them. After doing this for a few hours, they're all wondering if I'm in to them. Once I've chatted to a lot of girls for a few hours I know logistics and warmest sets so it's all a breeze from there. That was a big epiphany for me instead of being in game-mode as soon as I got there.
/r/seduction03/06/14 12:47 AM
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Well said.
/r/seduction03/06/14 12:43 AM
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Yeah I always make the effort to call first to at least show that I have the confidence to. Most of the time (even those who don't flake) don't answer though. A lot of the time they want to go for the default too. All depends though.
/r/seduction03/06/14 12:42 AM
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It's an English expression.
/r/seduction03/06/14 12:41 AM
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Used to live there a few years back actually. Awesome place. Based in Sydney now though.
/r/seduction02/06/14 02:56 PM
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If you do call her out on it, the intent is to do it when she's giving you her number, and to do it in a joking/teasing way. Definitely, being Irish and travelling I'm always having people comment on my choice of words from "wrecked" for tired, to "good craic" for fun, and "the jacks" for the toilet. Give a few of these a bash, sure. Anyway, it's gettin fierce cold.. better put on me jumper. ;)
/r/seduction02/06/14 10:35 AM
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Sincere Seduction by Damien Diecke. The ideas I shared are just my favourites from the book.
/r/seduction02/06/14 09:06 AM
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Very mature perspective. After a while it had to evolve beyond just getting girls. Once I had that area handled I have to explore new levels of motivation. Sounds to me like you're on the same path.
/r/seduction02/06/14 08:54 AM
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Yeah I had a similar realisation before I read the book. Someone suggested that you should "speak in sales copy". Because copywriting has the intent to influence a sale this seems like the most direct route to effective communication. If we take pick-up as a craft worth pursuing to mastery there are so many outlets to practice from acting, and creative writing, to comedy improv which would all have a huge impact. Plus they're some damn cool hobbies to have either way.
/r/seduction02/06/14 08:17 AM
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With 4 it is definitely about how expressive you are with your choice of words. Which do you think has more of a punch? You can say a venue is busy, or that it was packed to the rafters, as an example off the top of my head. Great storytelling requires the right choice of words. It's not to say that "weird" phrases are better, but if there's a synonym or metaphor that better expresses what you're trying to communicate, use it. That being said, take what resonates and apply it. They're just a few…
/r/seduction02/06/14 07:41 AM
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People are always trying to hard to look cool dancing and caring about how THEY look they probably won't even notice. Forget the technique. If you dance (or do anything for that matter!), it should be because you do it out of your own enjoyment. Don't think of it in terms of trying to look cool. Cool comes from not caring what other people think. The more you worry about whether you're doing it right the worse it can be. Dance if you feel like it. Stand if you feel like it. This is cool because …
/r/seduction02/06/14 07:04 AM
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I think I remember him saying the only people this will happen to are those who are socially anxious or socially isolated. That just means work on cultivating a great group of friends who support you. The best thing to do is find guys who are interested in meeting girls and go out with them. This will remove any possibility of ALL rejections over time and the quickest way to make it happen. If you handle the three fundamentals and approach a ton of girls you'll be getting awesome results in no t…
/r/seduction02/06/14 06:53 AM
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Nah mate. Guys dating multiple girls and girls dating multiple guys is more of the norm. You don't want to invest to heavily in one girl at the start of the relationship. It will create more needy behaviour than if you're dating a few girls. That way you have enough abundance so that if it doesn't work out with one girl you're not immediately back to square one. Assume that seeing other girls is the default. Monogamy isn't expected until you both agree to not see other people.
/r/seduction02/06/14 06:49 AM
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Could you link me to the podcast? I'd be interested to learn more about it. I'll be coaching this weekend but we might be able to arrange another time.
/r/seduction22/05/14 08:28 AM
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Nice one. Looks beautiful in Colombia. I'm planning on moving back in the next few years to learn Spanish once I have the business in a place where I can work remotely. Just moved to Australia though, and going to spend some time living in South East Asia first.
/r/seduction21/05/14 03:00 AM
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Just a couple of days on and off. Was living in Pisco mostly, with a short trip to Cusco and Machhu Picchu. How about you?
/r/seduction20/05/14 11:50 PM
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Ha cool. Yeah, let me know man.
/r/seduction20/05/14 12:26 AM
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I used to live in Peru, and while I mostly dated European/North American girls there, there's always a way of circumventing her entrenched beliefs by staying true to your desires and motivations.
/r/seduction20/05/14 12:25 AM
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Hahahahaha brilliant. I'll have to remember that one. Classic.
/r/seduction20/05/14 12:23 AM
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Usually I escalate just as hard and close hard too, but I just thought it was a funny "excuse" to get more physical with her and went with it. I can see it working any time. Like anything, it's all about delivery.
/r/seduction20/05/14 12:23 AM
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Not too sure about this subreddit, but I know that the demographics of the simple pickup audience is about 20% taking action in any capacity, with even less than that going out consistently. I'd say that's pretty much industry standard in my experience. Getting started can be the biggest hurdle when guys don't have a social circle interested in it too. I know this was the biggest barrier for me, spending about a year watching things like Blueprint and David DeAngelo before doing ANYTHING. The be…
/r/seduction20/05/14 12:21 AM
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Just be a confident guy who flirts with girls he likes. If they flirt back ask for their number and take it from there.
/r/seduction19/05/14 12:21 PM
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Sometimes country customs and traditions take precedence when you're playing away from home. Then again, it's important for you as a man to stick to your principles. If you don't want to double date like children, refuse. That way you maintain your integrity. If she refuses, elicit more of an investment from her so that next time you don't get the objection. It's the same frame as a parent/child relationship. The kid wants it's ice-cream but the parent knows best.
/r/seduction19/05/14 12:07 PM
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Great comment. Have more important things in your life than your girl. It's one of my favourite ideas from The Way of the Superior Man. David Deida talks about how, even though you might love your girl, you should still have a mission that takes precedence over her. Logically she wants to win by getting more of your attention and having you think about her all the time, but she wants to feel like she's with a winner more.
/r/seduction19/05/14 12:02 PM
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Just text for logistics. Keep it simple.
/r/seduction19/05/14 11:58 AM
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The cues aren't obvious to most. I'd say it's more that you develop a stronger sense when you've gone out for years on end. Hints only become "obvious" when you have enough reference experiences. Also, it's extremely rare that a woman will escalate on her own... especially at work. :P
/r/seduction13/05/14 05:05 AM
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The main factor were her big "anime eyes" to be honest. She had this look that sub communicated that she REALLY wanted me to ask her out. She also kept hinting at when she was working and that I should stop by again. The differences will be the same as most cold-approach. She might have to pretend to be nice to you, but she doesn't have to pretend to be into you. Look for the same cues of interest that you'd find doing any kind of cold-approach. After a while you develop an instant sense of whet…
/r/seduction12/05/14 10:13 PM
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Talk to whoever you're attracted to. After that don't label hotter girls differently. It's a subtle way of putting them on a pedestal and attributing more value to them than they deserve that's based entirely on their looks. As soon as you stop caring that they're 9's and 10's is when you get them.
/r/seduction12/05/14 12:35 PM
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Your value in her eyes can dictate what she can let you get away with. You're probably already a high-value guy but remember you're still a stranger to her. When she meets you, she doesn't know that yet. This doesn't apply to everyone, but in your case because it works on dates, it's probably because you've "earned the right" to make fun of her. The difference in playful teasing and insulting is your intent. Even though you don't mean it in a bad way, it's easier for high risk displays to come o…
/r/seduction12/05/14 12:32 PM
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A low value person is nice because they have to be. If they aren't kind they will step on the toes of those who are higher social status than them and get in trouble. A high value man is nice because he decides to be. People responding positively to him and respecting him doesn't depend on his kindness. That's why it's even more admirable for a high value man to be so. Demonstrate gestures that you care. Although you and I wouldn't watch a Hugh Grant movie, there's no denying that girls love "th…
/r/seduction12/05/14 12:21 PM
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I think it's okay. I got a number from a girl working at a coffee shop the other day. Instead of getting her to put her number in (to crystallise it as an "event" in her memory), I held the phone low and asked her without anyone else seeing so she wouldn't feel put off by other customers or her boss seeing. At no point did I "hit on" her though. There was obviously mutual attraction so why not? It just takes a bit more social calibration to recognise whether she's doing it to be nice as apposed …
/r/seduction12/05/14 12:14 PM
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It's all about setting the frame. The paradigm of "act as if" applies in most cases. While you're probably not going to ask her to be your girlfriend straight away, start transitioning to exclusive relationship behaviour, whatever that means to you. Asking her out on a date is not needy. It simply communicates your desire for her for reasons other than sex. Introduce her to your friends. Meet hers too. Begin "opening up" and sharing things about yourself that not everybody knows. That's the easi…
/r/seduction12/05/14 12:10 PM
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Yeah I realised with some of the feedback that maybe it's more intermediate/advanced stuff and that a lot of guys were pretty solid in that area already. Some guys go too far beyond in an attempt to be alpha though so it's more of a suggestion to prompt guys like that to pare it back. 3 things were probably the cause of her response: No rapport, just great sex (read sex god method) No dates (every visit was an implicit meet up just to fuck). This keeps you out of being categorised as boyfriend m…
/r/seduction09/05/14 07:15 AM
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Connection stories don't always have to mean showing vulnerability. As long as the stories you share give her more of an insight into what you value you can pull her into your world. Your value as a man is not entirely dictated by sexual value. Sexual value is just one component. Being fake might get the girl, but as a high-value guy, I would rather express myself authentically at the risk of losing her. That's true abundance. You don't have to fake it if you've already made it. And as a high va…
/r/seduction07/05/14 08:24 AM
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Always good to get challenged on what I mean by certain concepts though. Requires me to clarify exactly what I mean instead of just having a vague idea of what I'm trying to explain.
/r/seduction06/05/14 10:28 PM
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Cool. no worries. happy to help.
/r/seduction06/05/14 10:39 AM
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You don't need to game a girl after you fuck her. But although I suggested a slow transition to relationship mode, it should still be a conversation that both of you have so you're both on the same page and know that it's exclusive. What I mean is that once you transition to acting as if it's already the case getting her to be your girlfriend should be the easy part.
/r/seduction06/05/14 09:50 AM
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Nothing says I like you more than just for sex than taking her on a date. Make more of an effort to share who you are with her and get her to share more about herself with you. Any fwbs I've had I saw only on a sporadic basis. Any girls I ended up dating exclusively, I slowly transitioned from once a week to seeing them more frequently about 3-4 times a week. Essentially, act as if you're already in a relationship. That way when it's something both of you talk about it will be a no-brainer. The …
/r/seduction06/05/14 08:49 AM
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$0.00
/r/seduction06/05/14 06:50 AM
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No this is a medium to give you more free content if you want it.
/r/seduction06/05/14 06:24 AM
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Happy you appreciate it. It's all about those 1% things changes that all add up. If you try it I'd be interested to hear how you got on. Should also include that they're the type of conversations for isolation and suit some venues more than others, but you seem like you know your stuff either way. Good luck.
/r/seduction06/05/14 06:23 AM
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I would say that with dating there is an element of progression. You should get a sense that both of you are making an effort to get to know each other better. A fwb is usually just a casual thing where not too much of a focus is put on the "getting to know you" phase. Whats the intention of recognising the distinction though? To recognise the signs, or to move the relationship in one direction over the other?
/r/seduction06/05/14 06:20 AM
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I see where you're coming from. Potential isn't partially related to how well she knows you in the moment though. The potential she sees in you is partially based on the potential for the two of you to connect (unless she just wants a fuck buddy). While I'm not advocating sob stories in the club, what I am saying is that you have to demonstrate to her how your different by providing not only the emotional anchors that made her feel good, but also the logical anchors of "John. Who plays guitar, l…
/r/seduction06/05/14 05:49 AM
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I didn't overthink it but what I mean by social value is everything I convey as a high value man. The emotional variety I mentioned was my way of saying I made her experience a full range of emotions when she was with me. There are definitely 100 other things that attraction entails but in a broad sense, its about being a cool high-value guy who makes her feel good.
/r/seduction06/05/14 05:23 AM
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How much a girl likes you is a function of how well she knows you (along with a myriad of other things of course). Girls are "attracted" to guys all the time, but the ones they follow up with and keep dating are the ones they have a connection with.
/r/seduction06/05/14 05:08 AM
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Broaden your perspective to see the value in things like TV, music. In the same way you would appreciate a girl who made the effort to understand your interests and learned a bit about politics, you can do the same with her interests. If it's popular, ask yourself "How do I feel about that?". Even if you don't like the same things she does, develop an articulate perspective of why that is. You don't have to like everything she likes. Not liking the same stuff provides just as much meat for a con…
/r/seduction06/05/14 03:53 AM
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Thanks mate. The trouble has less to do with the needy behaviour and more to do with the level of incongruence behind it. If you are uncomfortable expressing your desire for her and try to mask it by playing cool/alpha she'll pick up on that disconnect and it will weird her out. In short, don't mask it. Embrace it as a social experiment and see what happens. What you resist persists.
/r/seduction06/05/14 03:48 AM
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I'd say hit her up over text and call as a last resort. Girls aren't pushing themselves out of their comfort zone in the same way you are. Generally it's normal for them to be a bit shy to talk to a new guy they just met. That's just my frame/experience.
/r/seduction06/05/14 03:46 AM
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Think of it as a "girl neg". She likes you. You're doing the right thing. Girls on tinder can be flaky. They get hit up by lots of guys all the time. Imagine you had 1000's of girls wanting to fuck you. Occasionally even if you like one of them, if you haven't met, the investment isn't high enough for you to follow up 100%. What I always do on Tinder is go from open to getting her number to switch it to text in one sitting. That way there's more investment to text back someone you like than ther…
/r/seduction06/05/14 03:43 AM
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I've been there. Try a "30 day theory fast". One way to not beat yourself up like this is to celebrate the small victories. Breaking it down into really small pieces and set yourself the "minimum criteria for success". It could be talk to one girl. It could be compliment a stranger. All depends on what level you're at. Set it up so that you win. Over time all those smaller victories add up as you expand your comfort zone.
/r/seduction06/05/14 03:39 AM
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I shared a piece of an article recently on this topic about how even after knowing a girl for months she still didn't feel like she knew me. To her it felt like every time we met was a one night stand. Share "connection stories" with her that make you real to her. This is one of the fastest ways to create that bond where she likes you not for how much "game" you have, and starts liking you more for who you are.
/r/seduction06/05/14 03:34 AM
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Can go either way. But, if she's texting you back you've obviously done it right. The more shared experiences, or memories of shared experiences both of you have the stronger the bond, the more she will care and be attracted to you. While one way to do this is through "call backs" to an inside joke sending a picture sounds like a great way to spark her emotional memory of the time she spent with you. All of our memories are "state access dependent" so when she sees the picture it should trigger …
/r/seduction06/05/14 03:31 AM
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Appreciate it. Thanks.
/r/seduction25/04/14 02:34 AM
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me too. been travelling all over the world the last few years and builiding a business now 4 hour work week style. I'd probably be stuck in an office job i hated right now otherwise.
/r/seduction25/04/14 12:55 AM
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whispered
/r/seduction25/04/14 12:51 AM
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ready. fire. aim. (same approach to game i guess?). Thanks Ill change it now.
/r/seduction25/04/14 12:51 AM
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yeah not only one of the most important concepts, but hilarious too. Theyre really getting better and better.
/r/seduction24/04/14 10:16 AM
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Thanks dude. Obviously a lot of room to expand, but I wanted to keep it concise.
/r/seduction24/04/14 05:24 AM
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There are specific things online that you can look up related to "indicators of interest". My coaching style involves creating the kinds of opportunities where students develop a "sense" of when a girl is interested instead of looking for specific things like if she's playing with her hair or touching you playfully. It something that will take time, but as long as you keep meeting women and flirting with them, you'll start to know when they're flirting back. Until they do, I think there's little…
/r/seduction20/04/14 08:17 AM
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Avoid the reputation by only asking girls that show you signs that they are interested. It's better to be the guy who asks a girl on a date and gets rejected than to be known as the guy who asks nobody on a date and never has any meaningful relationships with women. There are definitely ways to avoid getting the reputation. To start, don't "practice" game on your social circle. You can keep those two aspects of your life entirely distinct.
/r/seduction20/04/14 05:26 AM
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I'd also add the resilience to endure failure. From my perspective I only fail at something I set out to achieve when I stop trying. All my goals are process oriented though. So, for example my goal can only ever be to talk to a girl, not fuck the girl. The first is in my control. The second ultimately isn't.
/r/seduction20/04/14 03:44 AM
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Hmm cool. Do you know where I could find that study? I kind of get why that could be the case actually. Its a lot less important now for men to kill their dinner. Alpha qualities aren't as valuable for survival anymore.
/r/seduction20/04/14 03:41 AM
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Do you know of any cultures where the opposite is true?
/r/seduction20/04/14 12:54 AM
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Good to hear. I think the same could be said for me to some degree. Men who have faced adversity make the best leaders. They understand other people to a greater degree and and make better decisions for the community as a result.
/r/seduction19/04/14 12:23 AM
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Probably my favorite definition so far.
/r/seduction18/04/14 11:07 PM
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Yeah I'm noticing that as the thread goes on. Yeah I guess we're all just trying to become our best selves whatever you want to call it. Some traits can be more masculine though in the David Deida's superior man sense of the word. There are invariably some qualities that are more important for men to pursue than women and vice versa. "Feminine" men are generally less attractive, and "masculine" women are generally less attractive so they still have meaning beyond being a good human being in some…
/r/seduction18/04/14 11:06 PM
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Good stuff. I read it a while back, but I'll definitely give it a read again soon. Seems like one of those books where you can ge something new from it depending on where you're at in life.
/r/seduction18/04/14 11:01 PM
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That's true. But remember, women are stratisfied in the same way men are. The frail weak ones mate with women of their "equal value" and on it goes. All they need is one women to consent to pass on their genes. The frailty of some men today isn't entirely due to environmental factors like playing wow all day. They have a particular genetic body type that gets passed along because their mom consented to sex with the guy who would have spent his life playing wow a generation ago if it were availab…
/r/seduction18/04/14 10:59 PM
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True. It's easy to be pulled around by external circumstances sometimes. Always important to tap into what you really want and live with integrity with your thoughts, words, and, actions all aligned.
/r/seduction18/04/14 10:54 PM
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In a broad sense, it's less about what the words mean an more about living life the best way you know how, like you said, without trying to live up to other people's standards.
/r/seduction18/04/14 10:53 PM
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Dominant and dependable. I like it.
/r/seduction18/04/14 10:51 PM
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Yeah and it's not just been in the way men dress. The feminist movement has made women more assertive (masculine quality) leaving men who feel guilty for wanting women to occupy traditional roles.
/r/seduction18/04/14 10:50 PM
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Cool man. Let me know how you get on.
/r/seduction18/04/14 10:47 PM
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The same applies. You might sleep with her, but if she's not attractive to you without make-up it's not likely to last (short term solution).
/r/seduction18/04/14 12:01 PM
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I can see why you answered the way you did now. Superior man is one of my favourites and some of the ideas will probably serve as the foundation for a course I'm working on. Sounds very familiar to some cognitive behavioural therapy techniques. Seems like it might be something you'd be interested in if you havn't checked it out already. Largely about adopting more resourceful interpretations of whatever situation you find yourself in.
/r/seduction18/04/14 11:18 AM
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Definitely. Masculinity is a like a foundation for machismo. Definitely something that would take a long time to cultivate. It's probably more of a reflection of a character disposition than something worth working towards by changing belief systems that would then express themselves as macho behaviour. If you got it, cool. If you don't, no worries. It probably serves more to polarize girls than anything else.
/r/seduction18/04/14 11:15 AM
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Fuck. I think you're on to something. Men are more characterized by logic, while women are characterized by their emotion. Letting your emotions rule you can be a very feminine quality. Cool tie in with the idea of "generating your emotions from within" on the one hand, but also knowing when to "fuck your emotions" when you need to get shit done. Self generated positivity/ discipline. Have you heard of Elliot Hulse's head/heart/balls distinction? I guess sometimes it depends on the situation. Re…
/r/seduction18/04/14 10:13 AM
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So important to do what makes you happy instead of trying to please other people. Seems like you've gotten to the core of what it's all about. It all seems to manifest itself as confidence and assertiveness. Off the top of my head, if everyone had those two qualities handled there wouldn't be much else needed. Most of the other stuff like being a leader, being firm in your values and non-reaction seeking all fit under those qualities. Interesting point on social graces. A lot of guys with good g…
/r/seduction18/04/14 10:06 AM
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Haha I know. That's what I was expecting, but it's good to see that guys are open to the idea of being a superior man without machismo. Inner-game, to me, outwardly manifests itself as confidence. Very few pre-selected men today are macho. I had just come of the back of a stint of practicing "beast mode", and instead I'm thinking much more in terms of Brad Pitt's "game". If you have value, you don't need to show people. If anything, sometimes I have to tone it down to relate to the girl on her l…
/r/seduction18/04/14 09:50 AM
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Thanks brother. Great definition. While there is a demonstration of strength there's also the recognition of the softer approach of fairness. Too much focus on strength or aggression can create it's own imbalance. It's easy for a weak person to be fair, because they have no choice (they'll get their ass kicked if they're not fair to others). But it demands a lot more from a strong person to be fair, because they have the power to get what they want either way. That way fairness from the strong i…
/r/seduction18/04/14 09:29 AM
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Yeah not giving a fuck is a huge part of it for me. Rather than overtly needing to show the world that (through purposeful indifference), I demonstrate it through doing whatever I want. Definitely important not to be a whiny bitch. My route is through taking 100% accountability for everything "wrong" with my life, deciding what I want and making it happen. Like that you added "when needed" to the use of violence. I've been in a few fights, but always for the right reason. To me, knowing when to …
/r/seduction18/04/14 08:59 AM
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That was the point of the post. Society can confuse masculinity (characteristics of what it means to be a man) with the idea of machismo (being manly). Subtle distinction but essentially, there's more to being a man than "being manly" (machismo).
/r/seduction18/04/14 08:51 AM
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I heard the six pillars is a great read for this. Still meaning to give it a go. Core confidence comes from realizing you are enough and liking yourself as a person. After that, you will probably have "social anxiety" when it comes to talking to girls but realize that this isn't a confidence issue, but a competence issue. If I asked you how confident you would be on a scale of 1 to 10, to play "Stairway to Heaven" on guitar (presuming you can't), you probably would be a 0. Same goes with chattin…
/r/seduction18/04/14 06:43 AM
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Lead.
/r/seduction17/04/14 06:18 AM
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Reminds me of some of my favourite quotes: "you attract what you are, not what you want" and "who you are screams so loud I cant hear what you say". Good to recognize that becoming the best version of yourself is one of the best ways to get girls (as long as we keep cold approaching to create opportunities and stay sharp). I agree though. Most of the time it works because the way we say it sub-communicates value.
/r/seduction16/04/14 10:00 AM
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Find out "Tylers six steps" from RSD. Drill them over and over and over. In game, whether you're new or not, its all about getting reference experiences so go out as much as you can to learn to make the distinctions between what works and what doesnt.
/r/seduction16/04/14 09:55 AM
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Keep getting those reference experiences!
/r/seduction16/04/14 09:52 AM
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Take it as your responsibility as the man to always lead the conversation. Even if she provides the topics you can lead it in whatever direction you want. RSD has a few good videos on this. Try searching "never run out of things to say". Other than that, lets say she says something like.. "I love to walk my dog in the park". In that one sentence you can talk about love, walking, dogs, and parks and anything you can think of related to above. Every sentence she says will be the same. Keep practic…
/r/seduction16/04/14 09:51 AM
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Perfect timing. Jeffy posted a video on this exact topic a few hours ago. I havnt watched it yet but it should help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAR6aJP6RBo (Dealing with loud clubs)
/r/seduction16/04/14 09:45 AM
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Yeah tried to watch a few bits from youtube again recently and it seemed really basic. Stuff like "looks and money dont matter" and "how to get in state". Like anything though, it always comes back to the fundamentals.
/r/seduction16/04/14 09:37 AM
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Must have watched every RSD video about 5 times at this stage. Thinking of giving foundations and blueprint a go over again. It would be interesting to see how far I've come over the years.
/r/seduction16/04/14 09:30 AM
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Good point. Cheers.
/r/seduction09/04/14 08:10 AM
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Thanks for commenting. I need to simplify the way I explain things next time though. Thinking my next article might involve a reappraisal of masculine identity, yet I don't know which audience might find it useful. Any subreddit suggestions? I'd really appreciate a steer in the right direction so I'm not posting stuff in the wrong places.
/r/seduction09/04/14 07:38 AM
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You're welcome. Good to hear it was useful.
/r/seduction09/04/14 07:33 AM
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Thank you. Great link too.
/r/seduction09/04/14 06:34 AM
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"You are constantly letting other people know how to treat you by the way you treat yourself."
/r/seduction09/04/14 02:46 AM
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The Feel Good Factor is a great source of information for self-love strangely enough. Much of how we feel about ourselves can be attributed to imbalances of our bio-chemistry as a result of poor nutrition. Focus on eating things getting things like omega-3 from fish, cod liver oil, vitamin D supplements (as almost everybody doesn't get enough from the sun). That's the nutrition side. Another one on self love that I keep hearing over and over is The Six Pillars of Self Esteem. I havn't read it ye…
/r/seduction09/04/14 02:26 AM
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Truth.
/r/seduction07/04/14 07:18 PM
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Good to hear you're making progress. And yeah, it's definitely better to think of it as just talking to people instead of "daygame". Are the numbers you're getting progressing to dates or do you find that you tend to get a few flakes? If you want to jump on a Skype call at any time, I'd be happy to help you out. I'm just doing this for free with a handful of guys on reddit to get experience.
/r/seduction07/04/14 07:17 PM
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I send someone a post on this a while ago that was pretty popular. It's about leading instead of asking. Do you know any way you can search your own thread other than one-by-one? I'll send it to you if I can.
/r/seduction07/04/14 06:51 PM
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Yeah so I always veer the conversation towards things that are more sexual pretty early on. Obviously it's calibrated to the girl and the situation and the girl though too. But, for example, by learning to read the signs I steer it towards threesomes and their dildo collection in the space of 5 minutes. It's all about how she feels in the moment, so if you share some adventurous sexual stories that you've had. she'll want to share hers. It's all about creating context. (If you don't have any sto…
/r/seduction07/04/14 04:57 AM
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Working 4 hours a week is probably unrealistic. But travelling the world on a shoestring is actually pretty easy. Most just create excuses for themselves not to do it. Yeah, go for it. You'll really learn a lot. In terms of personal development, other than reading, there's nothing better than travel. I hope the Asia trip works out for you man. Make it happen. What's your situation like right now? When do you want to leave for Asia by?
/r/seduction07/04/14 04:51 AM
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To touch her without making it awkward, just start setting the frame from the start where you touch casually. She has to know that that's the kind of person you are. The more you do it, the more she will get used to it. Yeah, if she's into you it can be completely normal for you to just grab her hand and see how she responds. Physicality is all about just being receptive to how they respond. If they're comfortable with step 1, you can move it forward a bit more. So like I said, start small. As y…
/r/seduction07/04/14 04:46 AM
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I spend some time volunteering. That's been one way to make long term travel more affordable. Other than that, focus on creating a career that you can do remotely (4 hour work week style), or supplement your travel with short bursts of working/saving as much as you can. "Vagabonding" is a great resource on this kind of lifestyle.
/r/seduction07/04/14 04:25 AM
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Thank you for exemplifying my point. One of the core principles has always been to be a person of value if you want to attract women. Do you think your comment reflects that?
/r/seduction07/04/14 04:23 AM
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No problem. Maybe it's just in my experience, but a lot of what I see in the industry/community can be pretty misogynistic with a focus on "racking up their numbers". In a sense, part of this might come from the insecurity they feel resulting in them feeling validated by sleeping with a lot of women. Then again, some are just horny motherfuckers. Great to see people having great relationships along their journey of becoming more successful with women and in life. Darragh
/r/seduction06/04/14 10:39 PM
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There is nothing that turns a guy on more than a woman's expression of her femininity. Don't think about flirting. Instead, just have fun and express yourself spontaneously. To cold approach like guys do, just "open" with the pretense of being social. Think of it like you're just creating as many opportunities as you can. There's the "situational opener" which just means making a passing comment on something from the environment, like the iPad he's on at the coffee shop, or go direct and just sa…
/r/seduction06/04/14 09:33 PM
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To me, an abundance mentality means having so much choice that I have no time to bother with girls that are taken. Think about it like this. All else equal, would you rather fuck a girl who is single, or one who is getting a regular dick from someone else? This is not even a moral dilemma because who am I to say what's right and wrong. It's just practical. Kind regards, Darragh, http://www.apexofattraction.com/about-darragh.html
/r/seduction06/04/14 09:12 PM
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What country are you based in? I'm planning on living in Eastern Europe in 2-3 years (travelling Australia now, then SE Asia). Love the relaxed attitude you've adopted. That go out/don't go out attitude is something I always see. When I set a new challenge I always get asked what if it doesn't work out. In one situation for example, you train for a black belt. If you don't get the black belt, you don't fail. What's the alternative? Not ever starting. I'd much rather the reality where I go for wh…
/r/seduction06/04/14 09:05 PM
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That's an awesome post man. And thanks for the link to the Sasha article. Sometimes I get so caught up with the RSD stuff that I stop looking for new ideas in other places. I'll definitely try the "hot girl tag" and leaving 30 minutes early. Daygame has never really been a focus, but I just moved to Sydney so thought it might be worth trying a new approach after all this time. Good perspective. Kind regards, Darragh, http://www.apexofattraction.com/about-darragh.html
/r/seduction06/04/14 08:58 PM
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Hey, It's great that you've spent a lot of time working on yourself and at the end of the day it's not about the girl, it's about you. The thing about social circle game though is that it's easy for everyone. That's why 90% of the population rely EXCLUSIVELY on it. In my experience the best girls I've met have been through cold-approach. That way I havn't been lazy about creating new opportunities just because I didn't know someone. I get what you mean about daygame. I never really do it for the…
/r/seduction06/04/14 08:52 PM
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Hey, just some honest feedback from my perspective. With the opener in set one, I'd steer away from compliments to the group. In a sense you havn't "earned the right" to hit on them just yet. If you open with the intention of screening them to get them to communicate their value to you, you're in a lot better position of choice. Act through your own intentions though. If you genuinely want to compliment the group, then do. Just make sure it's not done with the intention of trying to get their ap…
/r/seduction06/04/14 08:37 PM
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Haha whether you're being shipped to the friendzone depends so much more than on the context of those texts. The guys that are probably saying it rationalize things as putting them in the friendzone a lot easier than most. With everything we always have the choice with how to interpret it. While they have the scarcity mindset of FZ, when a girl text me (anything), my mind automatically thinks she wants to fuck. Thus, the self-fulfilling prophesy. Set your intent on the outcome that you want, and…
/r/seduction06/04/14 08:32 PM
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Like the RSD stuff goes, I'd make it so that your only criteria for success is that you approach. That lowers your expectations or the demands for yourself to such a degree that you give yourself permission to fail. I also have a win some/lose some mindset, so I told put too much emphasis on the outcome, and instead always just focus on the process. To be more present though, I always try to be aware of my breath throughout the day, and put my "awareness" in my feet before initial approaches. Be…
/r/seduction06/04/14 08:26 PM
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What I always do is acknowledge what they said, but then quickly segway to a new topic. That way even though she initiated it, I'm leading it. That being saiid, the only criteria other than leading is keeping it light. You're not her little text buddy, so I'd always keep it minimal and ONLY use texting as a way to organize a date, and a check in when I havnt seen them in a while. Kind regards, Darragh, http://www.apexofattraction.com/about-darragh.html
/r/seduction06/04/14 08:17 PM
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Very true. Where I'm from it's 18 to go to bars so I didn't think of it like that. Context is king though. The venue that you meet a girl is definitely going to dramatically contextualize the conversation in a way that work in/against your favour. Any area except clubs can be even better because the girls get hit on there a lot less. It's about creating the "romance" for them, or the "love story narrative" that they are all looking for. Kind regards, Darragh, http://www.apexofattraction.com/abou…
/r/seduction06/04/14 08:11 PM
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Yeah, it's good to recognize th0se distinctions. I guess with an abundance mentality it's about recognizing that there are great girls EVERYWHERE. It's when I'm not being selective and just being social with everyone that I always seem to find someone worth not dating other girls for. Kind regards, Darragh, http://www.apexofattraction.com/about-darragh.html
/r/seduction06/04/14 08:06 PM
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Hey IwantIT_all, Awesome story! You have no idea how happy I am for you. I'm sure you know how rare it is for something like this to happen. Good luck with your new relationship. Kind regards, Darragh, http://www.apexofattraction.com/about-darragh.html
/r/seduction06/04/14 08:03 PM
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This might not be you, but cynicism can sometimes be a mask for a lack of self-belief. Each of us can selectively interpret the data we receive from the world in different ways depending on your belief system. Your interpretation was to think she just wanted you to buy her a drink, whereas my first thought would be that she was horny and needed to be fucked right away. Unless she says "buy me a drink", assume shes's not interested you getting her a drink. In future, try choosing a more resourcef…
/r/seduction31/03/14 10:01 AM
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Play a movie she hates. Make fucking the easier option. ;) Darragh, Apex of Attraction www.apexofattraction.com
/r/seduction31/03/14 09:55 AM
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Guys and girls can wing together by having either one open new groups with the pretense of "just being social". Because it's a guy/girl combo, the new girls in the group are less on edge (and I guess it also introduces pre-selection for the guy). The best thing I can think for a guy to do is to help open sets with guys she's interested. That way the girl doesn't have to do cold-approach. Darragh, Apex of Attraction www.apexofattraction.com
/r/seduction31/03/14 09:50 AM
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Do girls who go to the library not go to bars? Quality women go to bars too. If you want a serious relationship, even if you're in a bar, you can purposefully experiment not hooking up with them on the night and going for the number after investing a lot of time with them. That way you get a much better sense of what kind of person they are rather than categorizing people by the kinds of venue you find them in at the time. Darragh, Apex of Attraction www.apexofattraction.com
/r/seduction31/03/14 09:45 AM
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Yes I've been reading the book you recommended, but the main problem is finding what to focus on. My mind is wandering way too much. I'll keep trying it as an experiment and see what happens.
/r/seduction31/03/14 09:40 AM
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We can organize something for next week if you want. I'll be adding a page for that soon, but for now if you message me on my "Get in touch" page with what you want to focus on, why it is important to you, and availability we can take it from there. -Darragh
/r/seduction28/03/14 05:00 PM
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I've already read 2 out of 3 so not a bad start. I'll download the inner game of tennis now though. I have a practice of meditating, where I usually visualize towards the end of the session, but definitely not as long as 30 minutes. It seems to be working out for you so I'll give it a try. How do you break it down though? If I do 30 minutes, if I focus on the process like you said, should that mean I focus on creating content, writing emails and the day to day instead of visualizing public speak…
/r/seduction28/03/14 04:37 PM
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The website is new as of this week. There will be articles and videos published every week, so that was just an initial way to give away exclusive content as a way to get sign ups. That way I can keep people in the loop with new content. It will probably change soon. Maybe a 30 minute Skype coaching session. What do you think? More compelling offer? -Darragh
/r/seduction28/03/14 04:29 PM
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Yeah I started that way too so it was probably a bit easier to get results. I'm developing a six week course so I was thinking of getting Pimp to see how he structures all the info. what do you think of it so far? Worth the investment? -Darragh
/r/seduction28/03/14 02:52 PM
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Hey Chase_bank, Good opener, but I'd cut that conversational thread earlier, and move on to questions that help you getting the meetup once it's hooked. That might mean seeing what she's doing later in the week. If she says no that just let's you know where you stand. Fluff a bit more, then go for it again. It's your responsability to lead the conversation. So after the initial compliment take it in a new direction. Darragh, Apex of Attraction, www.apexofattraction.com
/r/seduction28/03/14 02:48 PM
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No problem. Are you familiar with their other channels? RSDTyler is the best in the industry as far as i'm concerned.
/r/seduction28/03/14 02:43 PM
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Hey rickraus, In my experience the kind of confidence where you feel like you can do anything comes over time. It's a result of progressive desensitization. Put yourself in situations that make you feel uncomfortable and you get used to it. Not relying on alcohol is important though because once you have the confidence that you have when drinking without alcohol, you'll also have the clarity to express yourself in a way that is attractive to the girl. No quick fix really. Rack up those reference…
/r/seduction28/03/14 02:40 PM
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Hey hynnia, There's a new motivational series from Real Social Dynamics. I think it's called RSDMotivation. Some of the most inspiring stuff you'll ever hear. If that doesn't get you to take action I don't know what will. Darragh, Apex of Attraction, www.apexofattraction.com
/r/seduction28/03/14 02:24 PM
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Hey ChristheMachine, What's your business? I've started a business recently (+visualizing daily). I mostly come here to leave helpful comments, but to do you have any specific advice for someone who is just starting out? Darragh, Apex of Attraction www.apexofattraction.com
/r/seduction28/03/14 01:32 PM
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Hey Wtlpua, I really appreciate your honesty. This is the EXACT same situation I was in until a couple of years ago so I completely know what it's like. Most of the time I come on her just to try to leave helpful comments, but I see a lot of myself in what you're saying. Anyway, I've been coaching for a few months, and been in the game for years with a lot of success. If you'd be interested in Skype sessions to be like a "digital wing" I'd be happy to share anything that I know to speed up your …
/r/seduction28/03/14 01:27 PM
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Hey -masterballs-, Unlike daygame/clubs, this is one of the few times I'd go with something situational. She'll be busy with her workout and a lot more likely to want to have personal space so understand that and keep it casual and flirty. To start, don't be THAT guy that hits on girls at the gym. If you're going to be "opening", be talkative with everyone. That way she won't think that you're hitting on her as much. Use the opportunity to screen her on whether she's interested before closing. M…
/r/seduction28/03/14 01:11 PM
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I wouldn't say it's necessary. It's kind of presupposed. That being said, don't worry about micro-managing whether something is the right thing to say or not. Someone who is genuinely really busy realizes that their friends are probably really busy too, so it kind of goes without saying that if you didn't text back, but are texting back now, that that's the reason. There's rarely a need to genuinely apologize unless you're going to be late or say something that offends her by accident. Darragh, …
/r/seduction28/03/14 01:01 PM
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Hey throwawayaz123, In terms of picking her up, I'd suggest you meet her at the restaurant. That is, unless she live's far away and it's really awkward for her to get to the venue. Greeting: Personally I'd give her a hug, maybe a kiss on the cheek (nothing too lingering, just casual but sets the tone of the interaction). For the restaurant, I'd keep it casual. Try pick somewhere fun. Talk about your passions, and get her talking about hers. Be an active listener if you don't know exactly what to…
/r/seduction28/03/14 12:57 PM
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I'd move on if she said that, but work on creating sexual tension when talking to any girls you like in future. Girls want guys to make the first move. Don't wait for IOI's. Instead, try and escalate and use your intuition for feedback as to whether she wants to be kissed, etc. 2 steps forward, 1 step back.
/r/seduction26/03/14 06:45 PM
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Hey ArtistBlock, How long are you waiting to text? I'd text the very next day so you're still fresh on their mind. Hot girls get hit on all the time so they don't feel any obligation to text back guys who are basically strangers. To stop this, get them to invest. During your next interactions, get them talking about 70% after the set hooks. Also, if you can, create opportunities that require them to qualify themselves (say things to try to get your approval) by approving of some things and not o…
/r/seduction26/03/14 06:04 PM
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Hey rusty84, It sounds to me like she wanted to fuck then and there. Open invitation. You declining out of not wanting to seem like a pervert probably demonstrated to her what your attitude towards sex is. Just because she doesn't want to date (excuse maybe?), doesn't mean she doesn't want to fuck. At the next opportunity, work on taking things in a more sexual direction from the outset. Reassess your attitudes towards sex. Talking about it does not make you a pervert. I get girls talking about …
/r/seduction26/03/14 05:55 PM
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Awesome post. Thanks DikembeNONONO!
/r/seduction26/03/14 05:47 PM
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Hey BSSNJV, I would try to cut conversations by text and say goodbye before she does. When texting, it's less about WAITING to text her back, and more about legitimately having other things going on so that you text back when you get around to it. If you find yourself constantly texting back as soon as she texts you, she'll probably get the impression that you have nothing better going on. Silent treatment is pointless. As long as you are using it as a technique, it will have very short-term res…
/r/seduction26/03/14 05:43 PM
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Hey seddit_nOOb, Practice exercises that can help you to create multiple conversational threads. Interview mode questions are okay, but once she gives you any answer that should be your opportunity to take the content of whatever she said and talk about it endlessly. Talk about your passions/ best experiences in an expressive way that draws her in. Make statements instead of questions like "you look Spanish", instead of "where are you from?". Get them to invest by having them do most of the talk…
/r/seduction26/03/14 05:32 PM
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Hey invalidcarpetbug, Sounds to me like you have a lot going for you. I don't think it should be an issue at all. Practice by holding eye contact with people in the street and let them be the first to look away. The girls doesn't care about you're wandering eye. She just wants to know that you're okay with it. If you're comfortable with it, she will be too. From personal experience, I have really high standards and I was with a girl with a wandering eye. To be honest, I didn't even notice it for…
/r/seduction26/03/14 05:23 PM
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Hey bunhead13, I'd not bother negging in the way Mystery does. If you're using it as a technique to elicit a particular response it's not really going to have the effect you want it to. Look instead towards the principle that underlies it. It is communicating that you might be interested, yet you're still a challenge. This creates sexual tension. So if you want to create more sexual tension, reciprocate her "kino", but make sure that you do it in a way that demonstrates your sexual intent toward…
/r/seduction26/03/14 05:15 PM
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Needy to me means needing something from other people. For the most part, in this context it would mean wanting people to approve of you. Your desire for others to approve of you comes across badly because it demonstrates that you don't have your own emotions handled and that you look to others to guage your own level of self-worth, instead of recognizing through you're own actions that you are ALREADY a person of value. Yes. A good way to think of it is independence. You might even desire other…
/r/seduction26/03/14 05:07 PM
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Great to hear that there is an identity level shift happening. Noticing that you're already communicating as if that kind of behaviour is part of an old self tells me that you are well on your way to having the level of success you want. Feel free to keep me posted on how your getting on with this girl. Happy to share any advice I might have to help you out. Darragh, Apex of Attraction
/r/seduction25/03/14 04:45 PM
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Hey pertichor, One to texting point, it shouldn't be that your texting a lot of girls. It should be that you're seeing a lot of girls and just texting to deal with logistics. For example, if I'm seeing a girl once every 7-10 days to keep her in rotation one text will be for a catch up to see how they are, the other will be for a meetup. This isn't really set in stone though. The only reason I would text to see how they are is if I don't have plans on seeing them very frequently. This is just a s…
/r/seduction25/03/14 01:31 PM
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Hey SilverCats, You can find other guys who are living in your area who are interested in getter better at attracting girls. You are the average of the 5 people you spend most of your time with. Going out alone might work in the short run, but it is definitely not sustainable over time. This is a marathon, not a sprint. No need to drink alcohol. I rarely do. If you do end up getting good results with women from going out drinking, it will create a dependency whereby you'll think you need to have…
/r/seduction25/03/14 01:24 PM
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Hey LalitaNyima, Figutre out: 1. 5 things you're passionate about 2. 5 things you want to do before you die 3. 5 best/worst experiences of your life Communicate them to her so she can really get a sense of who you are. Each topic will offer endless tangents to transition to so that should provide an endless supply of things to talk about. Darragh, Apex of Attraction, www.apexofattraction.com/
/r/seduction25/03/14 01:13 PM
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Hey jm4232, In terms of non-native speakers this is something that I run into over and over again. My approach has always been to emphasize my levels of self-expression and introduce a lot more physicality. I think not speaking a common language is a great opportunity to create attraction where you don't use your words as a crutch. In terms of a game, when I was living in Peru, most of my conversations with women reverted to a game of charades where we were trying to communicate different aspect…
/r/seduction25/03/14 01:03 PM
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Hey PUA_Training_Student, Why is there a presumption that things will inevitably go wrong with this one girl? Is that the only reason you want to keep the opportunities open with the other girls? Here are my thoughts anyway. If the other girls like you, if you start a relationship with one girl, they don't stop liking you. Unless their situation changes in the meantime you should be able to pick up where you left off with them. It's not uncommon for me to text a girl out of the blue that I havn'…
/r/seduction25/03/14 12:37 PM
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Hey NFNICK, It's natural to want to convince your friends to join you in a very "interesting" subculture of seduction. But, whether it's a comfort zone issue or not shouldn't matter. He's about as likely to be convinced to do pick-up with you as you are likely to to be convinced to collect stamps with him. It's just not his passion and that's okay. Most of the time we find fault with others who reflect something that we have embodied in the past. It's because you have such strong emotional ancho…
/r/seduction23/03/14 06:25 PM
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Hey nikotoskani, Much of the reason why we feel anxiety is because we are doing something that is outside our comfort zone. If cold approach in this way is new for you, recognize that it is something that is to be expected. It cannot be completely "bypassed". A lot of what is available from acceptance and commitment therapy involves resolving to accept whatever it is that you're feeling, and taking the necessary actions to expand your comfort zone. Over time it will begin to feel more normal for…
/r/seduction23/03/14 06:09 PM
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Hey haveapresent, I'd say in future, it's ALWAYS better to get her number. I've never given my number to a girl instead of the other way around. It requires far too much investment for the girl to text a guy first, even if she knows you like her. Culturally, the man has always been in the role of making the first move, so women will not move things forward. It's your responsability as the man in the relationship to do so. If she is in the same social circle, it's probably okay to message. Showin…
/r/seduction23/03/14 05:57 PM
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Hey NotThatDroid, I've traveled most of the world and it's the same everywhere. Don't create mental barriers that stop you from trying. Go out and find out for yourself. Attraction is universal. And the variations that you'll notice around the world when it comes to meeting women really aren't that significant. I've been to Amsterdam, and I can tell you with 100% certainty that it's the same in Amsterdam as it is in the US. Darragh, Apex of Attraction www.apexofattraction.com/
/r/seduction23/03/14 05:50 PM
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Hey EmmonsVentures, People who are famous usually date within their social circle, or same "level" so to speak. If you want to start dating celebrities, start going to the same places they do, and create an opportunity to introduce yourself. From there it's just like picking-up any other girl. Remember though that if she is in the top 1%, your pick-up skills aren't going to get you as far as you'd hope. Learning pick-up helps, but you should still be able to demonstrate to her that you are in th…
/r/seduction23/03/14 05:46 PM
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Hey Tomahawksc, It seems to me that if you hooked up with her last Friday for the first time that it might be too early. Then again, if it's mutual it's mutual. I'd suggested developing more comfort and familiarity with her first. Sleep with her a few times, and wait until she is more invested in beginning an exclusive relationship with you, than you are with her. Essentially, act as if you were already in a relationship with her. In doing so you will already seem as if you are her boyfriend so …
/r/seduction23/03/14 05:38 PM
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Hey justVisitingAgain, I'll throw out a text the next day. If I don't get a reply, I don't really care because I'm not overly invested in her. If you just met them they're basically still a stranger. Ideally you'll want to have so much going on (with other girls and an awesome lifestyle) that you literally forget. On the follow up a few days later, just rinse and repeat. Don't even acknowledge that you send an earlier text. Darragh, Apex of Attraction, http://apexofattraction.weebly.com/
/r/seduction21/03/14 09:20 PM
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Hey throwawayjohns, Focus on building social momentum. Start with small approaches and add a little more to each conversation. Don't think you need to be in state to get girls though. I love those nights when I'm really ON, but to be honest it's pretty rare. It's something that anybody who's been in the game for a few years is completely addicted to though. Again, build momentum. Focus on the process instead of looking for the outcome of being in state. Realize that if it happens 1/20 nights out…
/r/seduction21/03/14 09:09 PM
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The point about women being turned on by the man's desire for her is absolutely true. Sex is much more of a psychological experience than it is physical. There's a great book called the sex god method which demonstrates this point. The central tenet is that what women value is dominance, emotional connection, variety, and immersion (being in the moment - presence / mindfulness). Much of what dominance, emotions and immersion serve to do is communicate the level of your desire for her sexually (t…
/r/seduction21/03/14 09:04 PM
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Hey hertogetbetter, Whether a guy is persistent or needy comes down to his intentions. His mindset will be sub-communicated to the girl and she will be able to tell the difference. What communicates neediness? 1. Lack of purpose. You're intention can't be focused on hoping she like you, not wanting to get rejected, and hoping you don't run out of things to say all at once. If your intention is spread out it seems very uncertain. You should have one intent and be clear on it. 2. You also have to …
/r/seduction21/03/14 08:53 PM
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Hey BABS34, Whenever you have the choice between doing something and not doing something, do something. We regret the things we didn't do more than the things we did. That's a BIG yes from me. Darragh, Apex of Attraction http://apexofattraction.weebly.com/
/r/seduction21/03/14 08:36 PM
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Hey weightliftin4life, You don't need new stuff. 90% of your progress will be made in-field. Attraction isn't learned in the forum, but forums do serve to illuminate points of improvement for those with sticking points. Darragh, Apex of Attraction http://apexofattraction.weebly.com/
/r/seduction21/03/14 08:28 PM
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Hey rooney222, I've been going out for years and to be honest it's rare, but does happen. If you had hot girls approach you all night, you would have no need to approach them. That be said, it's always been the man's role to be proactive in this way. Yet, it's still entirely possible that society could have emerged in a way that women had to approach men instead of vice versa. There are actually cultures where the top tier males are fought over by the women. The women would rather be the one of …
/r/seduction21/03/14 08:24 PM
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"That's nice. Maybe I can be your man-friend". Reframe her having a boyfriend as adorable, as if it's something only kids have. Internalize or "act as if" monogamy is an outdated romantisized ideal and communicate that to her. Darragh, Apex of Attraction http://apexofattraction.weebly.com/
/r/seduction21/03/14 08:10 PM
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Pu$$y - Iggy Azalea ..Sets up my RAS for the night just fine. Then bring my girls back and fk to The Black Keys or Kendrick Lamar. Darragh, Apex of Attraction http://apexofattraction.weebly.com/
/r/seduction21/03/14 07:59 PM
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Hey ThatGuyOverT, All of those ideas will work great. Provided she's already DTF you're really just taking away any form of accountability on her part. My favorite way has always been to never say ANYTHING explicitly about going anywhere. Invites are an opportunity to say no. Leading doesn't. This also means that she is much more likely to rationalize that it "just happened". At a certain point in the night, you should try to pull from the club with whatever girl you've invested some time with. …
/r/seduction21/03/14 07:29 PM
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Hey NotThatDroid, Awesome question! When we use the term "Alpha" the main distinction that we're making is whether you are assertive vs submissive. You can look after your looks and even embody feminine traits and still be attractive. Being an attractive man is about acting the way you want to, instead of reacting to how other people see you. It's "Alpha" to express yourself the way you are instead of being stifled and trying to be somebody you're not to be approved of by others. Self-acceptance…
/r/seduction19/03/14 08:36 PM
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Hey stachen, The professionalism element is constraining in a way and it's not uncommon to become stifled and "not fully yourself" around people of authority. It's something I struggled with for years. There's a lot that transfers from talking to girls: 1. Self-expression: Imagine you were telling a bedtime story to a kid. Be expressive (within the context of the dinner of course). 2. Ask questions: for the most part people like to talk more than they like to listen. Try make it 70% them talking…
/r/seduction19/03/14 08:24 PM
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Hey Aakash294, First off, she is not bound to see her friends before she leaves. To pull her without this annoying part start by leading her to different locations around the club. With so many different environments she will begin to realize that you are the only constant in the environment and will look to you to provide a sense of direction. From there it will be normal to lead her out the front door (in the second half of the night). Say you want fresh air or something. Then, without making …
/r/seduction19/03/14 08:15 PM
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Hey Daterman, Flirting with your roommates fine. She will probably pick up that your expressing it as an expression of your own enjoyment, and not with any intentions to sleep with her. She'll definitely get the idea when you don't make a move. It's rare that roommates will ever sleep together because the level of investment from the possible relationship will be far outweighed by the awkwardness of moving forward with it and having it not work out. So her intentions are probably the same as you…
/r/seduction19/03/14 08:07 PM
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What does you internal experience feel like to you when you're sustaining eye contact? What are the thoughts going though your head? What do you think the consequences of sustaining eye contact are? Much of the emotional distress that makes this situation uncomfortable will be due to negative thought loops. As soon as we identify them, we can begin the process of uncovering associations and adopting more empowering beliefs. Other than that, use every opportunity you can to practice. Lower your c…
/r/seduction19/03/14 07:53 PM
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You're welcome. I'm just trying to create opportunities to add as much value as possible right now so I'd be happy to organize a FREE session. Message me with your availability and we can sort something out. Darragh
/r/seduction19/03/14 07:37 PM
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Hey FuriouslyIndifferent, Age (like any point of insecurity) will only be an issue to her if you sub-communicate that it is an issue to you. If it's something your not comfortable she will sense that and make it a bigger deal than it needs to be. Set the frame that it's not a big deal from the open. Reframe your age to yourself as being something of more value than if you were to be in your mid-twenties. You have a wealth of experiences and stories to share with her that most immature "boys" in …
/r/seduction19/03/14 07:31 PM
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Hey Lazybusbum, Getting her to follow up is not the most effective strategy. You don't want to take the pressure off. You want to build enough attraction that familiarity that she wants to see you again. A strong masculine quality is going after what you want and being a successful risk-taker. Don't place the responsability of that onto the girl. If it works, keep doing it. By getting their number they should never be bad leads. I have about 90% response from numbers I get because I make sure ev…
/r/seduction18/03/14 07:14 PM
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There is no such thing as a text game problem. If you meet her out the night before you should really only be getting the number as a last resort if logistics aren't good to pull. Text "game" should really just be to organize a time to see them again. If they're flaking after she gives you her number, there could be 2 reasons: 1 is that she wasn't really interested to begin with and gave you the number to get rid of you. 2 is that you didn't create enough of a connection with her on the night. E…
/r/seduction18/03/14 07:07 PM
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Hey Detachment, Are you involving the group? If you befriend everyone and he sees that you are accepted by them, he's a lot less likely to rock the boat by going against the side of the majority. After that, if he says something to try to provoke you the first time, befriend. Second time, ignore. Third time, reframe the girls perspective to emphasize that his bahaviour is attention-seeking. If you retaliate, you both lose. Women like a man who can stand up for himself, but not one who loses his …
/r/seduction18/03/14 06:58 PM
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To move past the friends shit-shield: The friend will naturally lose interest if you aren't adding to her experience. If it's a small group she often doesn't want you to hit it off with her friend because you'll end up "stealing" her from them for the night. If they go out a lot, she's probably had this happen before. That being said, sometimes that just happens. Don't invest too heavily in any one set. Use the first two hours of the night to just be social. It's not likely that you're going to …
/r/seduction18/03/14 06:51 PM
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A job should definitely come first over girls. A man's gotta pay the bills. Approaching girls and going to the kinds of venues where they hang out will definitely motivate you to lose the weight though. But, you're definitely right about taking small steps for now. "You are the average of the five people you spend most of your time with." Get around where it's better, and will automatically move in the direction of making your life better. Darragh, Apex of Attraction http://apexofattraction.weeb…
/r/seduction18/03/14 06:42 PM
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Haha not exactly what I was suggesting, but all I can do is offer my perspective. That definitely sounds like she was down though. Girls often use alcohol as an excuse to give themselves permission to do something that they already want to do to begin with. Darragh, Apex of Attraction http://apexofattraction.weebly.com/
/r/seduction18/03/14 06:38 PM
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Too many to know where to start. One of the interesting points involved a shamanic ayahuasca retreat in the sacred valley near Machu Pichu. I came back to college from that experience and wrote my philosophy thesis on the experience. Start with "The Way of the Superior Man" by David Deida. Let me know what you think about it and I'd be happy to give you more recommendations. Also, take on a leadership role no matter how small. Find an opportunity to mentor somebody younger than you. I might do a…
/r/seduction18/03/14 06:36 PM
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Hey Masutatsu, I'd start by sitting down with her to apologize about not making it clear from the start. Seeing other girls is nothing worth apologizing for when you're single, but not setting the frame with the girl is. It's likely that the girl will assume from the start that if she isn't dating anyone else, you probably aren't either. Be clear about your intentions with her and the extent of the relationship. Tell her about the possibility that it could have in the future if any, but recogniz…
/r/seduction18/03/14 06:29 PM
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When you have the choice between a lot of different girls, there's really no need to fuck girls with boyfriends. If there is a whole cinema of empty seats and you can have any one you want, do you sit on a strangers lap? Probably not. If you did already, that happens (more than most realize.) There's no reason to feel guilty. Think of relationships like a monogamy contract. She's the one breaking the contract, not you, and it's not your perogative to deny her something she wants if you want it t…
/r/seduction17/03/14 06:06 PM
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What are the outcomes that you are predicting specifically? You cannot control how she responds, but you can control your interpretation of what it means. The difference in levels of confidence between two people is determined by their interpretation of events. If she told you to go away, you might interpret it as you not being able to attract girls, and that you are not worthy of her attention. My interpretation would be that she must be having a really bad day to cause her to respond negativel…
/r/seduction17/03/14 05:05 PM
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That's amazing. Great to hear you're taking action. However, I would suggest doing both. There will be no perfect time to start doing cold-approaches. So a lot of guys get caught in a malicious psychological trap of thinking that when they lose the weight, learn more from videos or books, get enough of a social circle, then they can start. With your approach anxiety, develop courage, not confidence. Courage means acting in spite of fear. Becoming a courageous man in your relationship with women …
/r/seduction17/03/14 03:23 PM
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My experience is that for most guys new to sex they place too much importance on it. This means that they get trapped into a cycle of thoughts that causes them not to be present to the moment. It's the thoughts that can overwhelm you and cause you to not enjoy the experience. Look into mindfulness to quiet any disempowering thoughts. Or begin by just focusing on your breath when your mind starts to wander. You don't have to be a sex expert, so there's no need to look into techniques or anything …
/r/seduction17/03/14 03:16 PM
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Ha I like your description of them looking at you like they're taking a selfie. I don't know if you meant it to be funny, but I'm just picturing them duck-facing at you. You actually stuck on a very important point by using the word courage instead of confidence. Courage is the ability to act in spite of your fear, and that's exactly what you need to do. Over time it will get easier. Just remember, the ACTIONS of confidence come first, the FEELINGS of confidence come after. Progressive exposure …
/r/seduction17/03/14 03:08 PM
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Can you be more specific? I've been going on hundreds of dates and I still prefer the old classics of coffee shops and bars. The venue isn't as important to her experience as your company is. Just make sure she has a good time and enjoy yourself. Good luck! Darragh, Apex of Attraction http://apexofattraction.weebly.com/
/r/seduction17/03/14 02:59 PM
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AMOGing back is definitely not the behaviour of a superior man. Once you adopt that mindset, you will see every AMOG's unsuitable behaviour as needy and attention seeking. Recognize that most anger expressed is coming from a place of fear. If someone makes fun on you, ask yourself what they are so fearful of that would provoke them to bring down other people to their level. There is nothing manly about making fun of other people if it is done in a malicious way. Reframe their attacks as a reflec…
/r/seduction17/03/14 02:23 PM
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Congratulations on being depression free. It's something I've also struggled with in the past so I'm really happy for you. To keep it to the point, there are no books that you need to read in order to get good with girls. It all comes from practice. My suggestion is to go out and introduce yourself to 10 girls. Just say hi and ask their name. Nothing fancy. If you're sticking point is that you are too nervous to talk to them, then that's what you need to work on. I can suggest exercises for that…
/r/seduction17/03/14 12:43 PM
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Right now I'd say not to worry about how to take a girl home yet. My number one tip would be to break your goal down into smaller pieces. Let's say you want to meet,attract, and take home with a girl, your first step really is just to get yourself out there. Where are you from? There are other guys out there just like you where you're from who are in the same situation. Look for ways to meet other guys from the PUA community. They say you are the everage of the five peope you spend most of your …
/r/seduction17/03/14 12:30 PM
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You can talk about whatever you want. Just realize that if you enjoy what you're talking about, so will she. It's called the Law of State Transference, and can be expressed like this: whatever you feel, she feels. So it becomes less about what you say and more about how you say it. Practice being highly expressive, as if you were telling a story to a child. Use both positive and negative expressions to engage her. In terms of content, given that you can talk about whatever you want, how do you n…
/r/seduction16/03/14 11:04 PM
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Great to hear. Thanks. You have a good level of self-awareness to know what needs working on. I've started coaching recently. If you'd like a free coaching session by Skype I'd be happy to help you out. I have a talk coming up so it would also be a great opportunity for me to practice. Completely win/win. Just message me from the website and we can arrange something from there. They won't be free for long. ;) Darragh, Apex of Attraction http://apexofattraction.weebly.com/
/r/seduction16/03/14 10:41 PM
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Great use of push/pull, with both verbals and non-verbals. To add to this, I'd create tension with pauses in your words, and switch the pace of the conversation. I'd introduce more commands for her, all of which will elicit compliance from her and get her to invest more. Tell her "come" authoritatively when you bring her to her families house. By her following you, she is subconsciously agreeing to your authority in the relationship, which will advance her attraction for you dramatically. If you…
/r/seduction16/03/14 09:09 PM
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Just because it is a fetish of your does not mean that it needs to manifest itself when you are hitting on girls. In many cases, your sex life will involve playing along with what the girl wants to fulfill her fantasies. Instead of waiting for her to fulfill your desire to be dominated, instead fulfill hers on the pick-up by "playing the role" of the dominant male. A lot of the characteristics that I embody in the pick-up, I set aside and don't imbue them in my everyday experience. My dominance …
/r/seduction16/03/14 08:51 PM
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Great post. Reminds me of this quote: "We do not attract what we want; we attract what we are." Darragh, Apex of Attraction http://apexofattraction.weebly.com/
/r/seduction16/03/14 08:39 PM
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Have you heard of the lover provider distinction? The lover is characterized as the exciting archetype. When she categorizes you in this way, she isn't dating you because of what you can provide for her materially. I'm sure she makes her own money, and doesn't need you to fulfill the role of the provider for her. If she were only with you for that reason, would you want to be dating her? As an example, if you go on a date with her there's really not much need to bring it up. Instead, say "I'll g…
/r/seduction16/03/14 07:31 PM
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Hey dysrhythmic, Happy to help with any feedback. On the first approach I'd say you made a great point of not caring what people think. With daygame people are already a bit more on edge from not knowing what the intentions of strangers are. If it doesn't hook it would be better to leave it. Take the reference experience and move on to the next one. Keep the interactions short and sweet at the start. Use the momentum from the first set and carry it to the next. Stay optimistic. Good use of cocky…
/r/seduction16/03/14 06:10 PM
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Keep dating other girls. This will help you to live with more of an abundance mindset. If you still like her when you're dating other girls, you will know that you like her for her, rather than getting one-itis because you're not dating other girls. As a general rule, you should keep clubbing gaming for as long as you like. You have no obligation to be in an exclusive relationship with her, but if you decide you do want to, wait until you've had sex with her 3-5 times. Any other dating questions…
/r/seduction16/03/14 05:52 PM
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