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When we thought the earth was flat and no one could read lol
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/23 04:50 AM
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I think it makes way more sense that people like to feel special and included.. So especially if they are in the minority, they want as many people to fall into their category as humanly possible. Victims want other people to consider themselves victims so they don’t feel like they are the only ones. No illuminate required.. Here specifically, if cleopatra is part african and jada is part African. Well then jada might be special like cleopatra was?!?!
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/23 06:35 PM
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A drama wouldn’t matter, but a documentary?!?!
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/23 01:01 PM
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Naw… it is literally the opposite. Not every women obviously, but the majority of the ones that do were dating them.
/r/AntiFeminists08/04/23 08:57 PM
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I’m not so sure we can’t change the system.. it won’t be easy , but it can be done.
/r/AntiFeminists02/04/23 08:28 PM
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I definitely think we could have had our cake and eaten it too… An admittedly terrible saying, but you get the point. 😂
/r/AntiFeminists30/03/23 06:01 PM
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Nah I’m on the “we need a return to traditional relationships” end of the spectrum, not the Andrew Tate “get your money up so you can take advantage of the dynamics of modern dating.”
/r/AntiFeminists30/03/23 05:58 PM
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Every wave advocated against DV which is a good thing, but they also pretty much destroyed the family unit to protect what was alway a cost minority.. Call me crazy but I think we could have protected DV victims and not destroyed the family unit.
/r/AntiFeminists30/03/23 04:46 PM
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TikTok and other SM sites are full of 40 year old women crying because men are no longer offering a commitment.
/r/AntiFeminists30/03/23 04:17 PM
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That is sexual attention, not relationship attention. Lol Women always fail to recognize the difference.. just because he will sleep with ya’ll doesn’t mean he will wife you.
/r/AntiFeminists30/03/23 04:15 PM
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A big chunk are fundamentalists and conspiracy types.
/r/AntiFeminists30/03/23 02:35 PM
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Absolutely
/r/AntiFeminists30/03/23 02:32 PM
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So better than the people who are trained and have years of experience doing that very thing?? Doubtful, not to mention the socialization..
/r/AntiFeminists30/03/23 03:16 AM
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Every school is about obedience and indoctrination in how to be a better citizen. In every era and in every culture. Lol
/r/AntiFeminists30/03/23 03:14 AM
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I would bet anything that no mattter what TPTB of the movement were after women heard “equality” and decided for themselves what that meant for them in every wave… It is just shocking to me that every wave went with the “I don’t need a man” route and none ever went the “why aren’t we picking good ones” route.
/r/AntiFeminists30/03/23 03:09 AM
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Well being real how many people are actually qualified to teach their kids at home??
/r/AntiFeminists29/03/23 11:45 PM
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Just FYI even first and second wave feminism were pretty terrible if you do any digging. It has pretty much been a “and men are terrible and must be destroyed “ since the start. Not that everyone who claimed feminist meant it that way.. just concerning the stated goals and such of all the founders and big wigs.
/r/AntiFeminists29/03/23 11:43 PM
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I disagree… It ruined women , they just don’t realize it til they hit the wall and no one wants them romantically anymore.
/r/AntiFeminists29/03/23 11:38 PM
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HA!!!
/r/AntiFeminists18/02/23 11:44 AM
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Yea it probably is…. Do more attractive people do better in pretty much every interaction with people, business or personal??? Yes.. Does make up make someone more attractive when applied correctly?? Yes…. It is common sense things like this being played off on discrimination that has given feminists a bad name.
/r/AntiFeminists16/02/23 01:14 PM
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Shocking?!?! More attractive people get favored?!? In other breaking news, water is wet!
/r/AntiFeminists15/02/23 03:33 PM
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“Meeting online has become the most popular way U.S. couples connect, Stanford sociologist finds. Matchmaking is now done primarily by algorithms, according to new research from Stanford sociologist Michael Rosenfeld. His new study shows that most heterosexual couples today meet online.” https://news.stanford.edu/2019/08/21/online-dating-popular-way-u-s-couples-meet/ How about Stanford.edu https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/yk4mnh/8090_of_women_only_date_the_top_1020_of_men_and/?u…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 02:44 AM
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If someone is going to debunk an argument, it should actually be an argument someone is making, correct? That is the actual argument RP types are making. If it is a flawed argument then debunk away.
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 02:37 AM
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You would agree that if someone is looking to deconstruct an argument, it should actually be the argument being made by the other side, right?? Rather than something that is being twisted and is not actually an argument anyone is making?? If the argument is wrong, then deconstruct it. PS if the arguments are not factual than you should probably have a better counter for them than “nah uh”, right?
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 02:32 AM
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It doesn’t matter that there are more women than men on dating apps because, let’s assume there are 100 million people on tinder , for example and only 20% are women. That is still a study with 20 million women as it’s sample size. Which would make it for sure the most women ever polled on any subject. Concerning the study where men agreed on which women were the most attractive, that is totally irrelevant because though they might recognize the top 20% are the most attractive. I’m sure they als…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 02:28 AM
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A) you have never actually watched any red pill stuff yourself have you? Lol Unless we are talking about an escort, or the guy is in the top 20% of men women actually pursue, it is incredibly hard for men to be promiscuous… Literally 30% of men above 18 have not had sex in the last year… Literally no one red pill or black pill would ever say it is easy for the average guy to be promiscuous… B) the base claim is common sense… Those who were cool with their mate being promiscuous would have a bett…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 12:02 AM
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A) dating apps are the primary way most people meet today. So that inherently makes it an excellent representation. B) actually it is making the exact opposite claim. That women are very good at figuring out who the best men are in a group, but very poor at deciding what men they actually qualify for. Aka if your an average woman then obviously a top 10% guy is probably just using you for sex. C) they sure coalesce on the same top 12% of men. So that would seem to be pretty much in agreement.
/r/ExRedPill13/02/23 08:48 PM
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The influencer bubble and pointing out the hardships of dating from the male perspective.
/r/ExRedPill13/02/23 05:58 PM
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As an example, “believe all women” would sound like something most feminists do not actually adhere to and is more something that is just being used to attack feminists, but then like almost every feminist group on the planet came out in support of Amber Heard AFTER THE TRIAL. So in practice where is the case where most feminists have gone after a false accusation by a female.
/r/ExRedPill13/02/23 02:44 PM
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That would go for both sides.. I almost never see RP talking points being correctly represented. Every claim should be able to be tested, but I think if someone is going to deconstruct an argument, it should actually be the correct argument..
/r/ExRedPill13/02/23 02:40 PM
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What part of each side do you disagree with?
/r/ExRedPill13/02/23 02:37 PM
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No one has claimed any absolutes lol…. It is claiming that if there are 2 guys who are clones, except one is taller. The vast majority of women are taking the taller clone.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 06:55 PM
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Fair enough if you didn’t say they were telling men to cheat. I misunderstood. However, I totally disagree “they are permitting men to cheat” is a real thing. ..meaning that internet influencers do not allow individual adults to do or not do anything, on any subject.. Everyone is accountable for their own actions.. I listen to countless podcast on a hundred different subjects and I have seen the biggest of RP types specifically tell the average guy he cannot get away with cheating and her stay u…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 06:51 PM
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No one said they are 6ft only.. They put in a slider that the majority of women set to 6ft plus.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 06:31 PM
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That is only sad deflection… I reply when I have time and/or don’t have anything better to do. I have never once claimed men were smarter than women. Your just reaching because of a lack of an on topic rebuttal. I Just point out stats to back up things that are common knowledge.. mine is the mainstream position. Your the one claiming that all the world is wrong because you feel like it should be.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 06:27 PM
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A) There are oodles of unattractive celebrities and the unattractive male celebrities still all have gorgeous supermodel level partners, while if you look at the unattractive female celebrities they are with very average looking guys. B)actually I am usually referring to cave man days and before. C) I have posted oodles of studies and such and they all only point one direction, but I shouldn’t have to post studies for what is common knowledge.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 02:27 PM
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They are explaining why both sexes view sex diffidently, not telling men to cheat. It is just a fact that men and women view sex differently and that is based on biology. Women get a dose of oxytocin when they orgasm and men do not, because evolution programmed women to fall in love through sex, while it did not program men to fall in love through sex. That is why a lot of women have problems when they attempt to have casual sex. It was an evolutionary advantage for women to fall in love with th…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 02:17 PM
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A) Yes those are uS specific stats, but I doub seriously they change abroad. B) single fathers almost keep up with traditional families and far outpace single mothers, but THAT IS NOT A FAIR COMPARISON, because only the very best single fathers get primary custody. So that is comparing the only the very best single fathers with all the single mothers. Now that is some RP logic that falls apart.. we would need for single fathers to get custody half the time to make a real comparison. C) but it is…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 01:53 PM
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Not 6ft only.. they did studies on alll the dating apps to come up with the stats.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 01:46 PM
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I would bet my paycheck they are talking about “high value men” or the differences between the sexes when they do cheat.. Not telling men to cheat. There is a big difference. Concerning the fact men and women view sex differently is just biology/evolution based on the fact women carry the kids, and pregnancy is so time consuming,expensive and risky.. You might as well be mad men can pee standing up.. Really that should mean that it is even more important when a guy chooses to be monogamous, beca…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 03:00 AM
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A) CDC, FBI crime statistics, etc.. All the places who would know. B) Concerning men not being hypergamous.. Almost Every male celebrity on the planet marries or dates down.. trading beauty for status and wealth and they could have anyone relatively anyone they wanted.. There are 100 reasons why men on average don’t care about wealth and status.. Usually my money is out money, while her money is her money. If you can pay the bills solo, then having to work around a second career is a hassle. Bot…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 02:01 AM
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Kinda… but so few men are even remotely capable of that so it is about the same as most men wanting to be astronauts… sure it would be great but it is so unrealistic no one is expecting or putting work towards that goal.. Most men operate on what is probable not what is a million to one possible. Which is why we don’t mind settling down with an average woman.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 10:39 PM
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Sounds good… If women in general did not care about social ranking, then every male celebrity on the planet wouldn’t have 100 extremely attractive young women at in their DMs at any given moment… and they are…..and those are the women who could have anyone they wanted, and they choose to want people with status. Also, concerning women not liking the men who simp for RP gurus.. Women really tend to have a distain for the men who simp for them… you ever hear how women talk about the guys who buy t…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 10:27 PM
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Most red pill influencers have wealth and status and are beating women off with a stick.. Not for being RP gurus, but just like every other male celebrity is. They also do not really advocate for cheating. They suggest that men “keep women on their toes” by staying attractive to other women. So she doesn’t get bored and think they are settling for someone no other women want. They also warn women that if your going for someone with wealth and status that kind of man is likely to cheat. They 100%…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 06:03 PM
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The best people to ask would be the men who are being pursued by bunches of women.. Hypothetically, according to RP influencers it is because women will say they want one thing , but in reality want the opposite. Most often because attraction is more of a lizard brain thing while culture is a cerebral cortex thing.. This is talking about the hypothetical average, not every individual. They will claim they want someone who will be monogamous, but chase the men with a history of cheating, that all…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 05:53 PM
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I google it and a dozen studies and articles pop up because in the most cases it is common knowledge things. On average of course: “Women prefer taller men” Men prefer younger women” “Women are hypergamous” “Men rank physical attraction higher women” Those things are common knowledge and shouldn’t even require a study… Or really it should take a study to show those things are wrong because they are the default position.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 05:40 PM
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We only have studies or anecdotal evidence, and studies obviously trump anecdotal things.. Today we have a mountain of very accurate ways to find out. Dating app data for example where people have no reason to lie because they seem anonymous and have no idea they are being studied.. I would love to see the study saying pair bonding species prefer same their mate to be a similar size as I would assume all animals prefer to have bigger mates, because bigger means “better protector” and bigger offs…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 05:34 PM
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That is still probably very high. 80% of women only swipe right 5-15% of the time. So just mathematically that is a lot. That said i am just going off the raw stats of dating apps. I have been in a relationship the last couple years and have done very little tinder and bumble personally.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 05:27 PM
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I don’t know you lol.. I am pointing out that being attracted to taller men is almost a universal thing for women, so there is no reason to tag a negative psychological trigger to it.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 04:55 PM
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Women on average only swipe right 5-15% of the time.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 04:51 PM
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Maybe you are insanely attractive… But look it up.. 50 matches a week is off the charts.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 04:47 PM
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That sounds like black pill. Black pill are the ones who think they cannot effect the outcomes and red pill are the ones who think they can make more money, work out and learn game and increase their options. Game/charisma/a smooth operator, whatever you wanna call it..
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 04:46 PM
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I am talking about the average, not you specifically. Individuals like all kinda things. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/after-service/201909/5-reasons-why-women-and-men-care-about-height?amp “A study on women and men's height preferences found that women are most satisfied when their partner was 8 inches (21cm) taller. Men are most satisfied when they are 3 inches (8cm) taller than their partner. Another study found that among men, 13.5 percent prefer to date only women shorter than the…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 04:31 PM
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“A study on women and men's height preferences found that women are most satisfied when their partner was 8 inches (21cm) taller. Men are most satisfied when they are 3 inches (8cm) taller than their partner. Another study found that among men, 13.5 percent prefer to date only women shorter than them.” https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/after-service/201909/5-reasons-why-women-and-men-care-about-height?amp
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 03:38 PM
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Anything is possible, but It is probably subconscious. It would t be so overtly common and apply to a lot of perfectly stable women as well. Girls being turned off by men shorter than they are is probably like an 80% of the population thing.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 03:09 PM
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Men don’t care about height on average, unless your just crazy tell them it is a negative.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 03:05 PM
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That is an insane amount. Like a top 2% or higher amount You either must be ballin, amazingly attractive or your capping.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 03:04 PM
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Is it game or wealth and status?
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 02:10 PM
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On average men like a woman shorter than they are as well. Celebrities have wealth and status which would actually be evidence that women favor wealth and status over the traits that makes someone physically attractive, like with height. You see short and ugly male celebrities with super models all the time. You do not see ugly female celebrities with male supermodels..
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 02:09 PM
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It is probably evolutionary , not insecurity.. A bigger guy meant he was hypothetically a better protector and that meant hypothetically bigger offspring, which would have an advantage in caveman days.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 02:03 PM
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It is almost certainly the majority of dating apps wouldn’t have bothered adding it.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 02:00 PM
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It isn’t dating apps who want to do it lol.. Dating apps cater to women because they know the men will follow, no different than a club/bar letting women in without a cover charge. So that means the vast majority of women wanted to filter out short guys.. Wasn’t a real uproar?? Add a weight option that both sexes can use and watch the ladies flip their wigs.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 01:59 PM
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Where is your source for saying that single mother households and traditional households have similar outcomes, because I have seen a dozen different government agencies come to exactly the opposite conclusion.. Men probably stay because we are far less hypergamous, put our families above our own happiness, on average are less emotional and have a sense of duty that family. Plus men are rarely paid to leave a marriage.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/23 11:54 AM
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Inexperience in the sexual sense would have been an evolutionary advantage, because it would increase the chance a kid you raised would actually be your DNA that you were sinking resources into to pass into the future.. Hypothetically the males who did not favor that would have less offspring that successfully reproduced to send their DNA into the future. Women would have no need for that programming because the kid is always theirs.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/23 02:29 PM
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It is probably a symptom of women valuing physical attraction less and guys trying to get laid and lying.
/r/AntiFeminists06/02/23 06:59 PM
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I don’t freak out over internet comments ever.. I am from a generation that put zero stock in what random people you don’t even know, might say about online. Your just deflecting..
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 06:22 PM
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I didn’t fill out a profile.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 06:20 PM
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You lost me…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 06:20 PM
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1) First off I do not buy for a second that most couples are within 12 months of each other.. the math against that would just be astronomical.. the average age of first marriages in the US is like 28 or 31 presently, I forget which. people are not getting married right out of high school anymore where that might make sense.. people are meeting in the workplace and such where being the same exact age would just be random chance. 2) women have always valued physical attraction less than men.. you…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 06:17 PM
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My birthday is in April.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 02:14 PM
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You are bald faced lying… And who is triggered with the personal attacks, defections and misrepresenting my post history? You think I have bothered to check your post history?!? There is no way someone can stop someone from raping them in the moment.. I have said that because women are the choosers in mate selection they could remove any unwanted trait from the gene pool by refusing to mate with those that have whatever unwanted trait.. Who would disagree with removing rapists, pedos and domesti…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 02:14 PM
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First things like attraction and sexual orientation are lizard brain programmed in by biology, not cerebral cortex decisions. Evolution works over 10s of thousands of generations not over a few decades like with cultural stuff.. so it comes from cave man days or before, not the 1960s forward. Besides women don’t get to decide what men are attracted to IN GENERAL , just like men don’t get to decide what women are attracted to. On average, Men are attracted to youth and beauty just like women are …
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 01:54 PM
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Lol your the one leveling personal attacks and sad deflections, but it is my feelings that were hurt… Suuuuurrrreee…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 01:34 AM
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First off people do not age overnight.. it slowly happens over years lol.. so at 27 they are still at their peak.. hypothetically, they are 5% less attractive by 28, 10 % by 29, 15% by 30, etc.. 1) fertility rates.. by 30 90% of the eggs are gone and by 35 it is geriatric pregnancy. 2) beauty.. very free peoples would claim they were more attractive at 35 than they were at 22. 3) less baggage and trauma.. less broken hearts, kids, less crazy exs that might show up. Etc.. it is not hard math. 4) …
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 01:32 AM
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I doubt it because that would be totally illogical.. It makes perfect sense.. The vast majority of men would never raise their hand to a woman , even if she attacked him first. The rates of DV come from a relatively small group of repeat offenders who beat up every partner they have. While if a man attacks you then you are supposed to defend yourself and retaliate. So it makes perfect sense that same sex couples would have a higher trade of Dv because society expects for you to retaliate against…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 10:47 PM
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That is the proposed beginning of the decline in options.. The claim is reality really hits about 35-40 and there are countless social media videos and such of women that age coming to that realization. From what I have seen what RP influencer types are saying is not to waste the period when you have the most relationship value on “hot girl summers” and chasing bad boys, but to leverage that value on securing the best mate you can. Rather than waiting until someone has less relationship value an…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 10:41 PM
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You are grasping and having to resort to personal attacks and totally irrelevant arguments.. aka someone without a rebuttal who knows they are losing the debate.. I am a 41 year old construction worker who makes 80 grand a year doing extreme sport construction. So am in just outstanding physical condition in a long term monogamous relationship with a very attractive GF in her early 20s, Who’s son I am helping raise. Who bangs my brains out every other night like like it is her job to do so. And …
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 10:35 PM
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Women do not bar me from sex lol.. That is a personal attack as a deflection.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 07:55 PM
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This was just a deflection not a rebuttal, I do however detest men who lay their hands on women and think they should be removed from the gene pool.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 07:34 PM
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It is called google… all the vast collection of humanity’s combined knowledge is at everyone’s finger tips.. Of course there are plenty of terrible stats for men.. far greater crime rates, etc. Those things are not however addressing the topic.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 07:32 PM
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A) https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29994648.amp https://ncadv.org/blog/posts/domestic-violence-and-the-lgbtq-community Violence among lesbian couples have the highest rate of domestic violence. B) in general what is the first thing a woman will call another woman in a confrontation ? C) the red pill claim is that a woman’s DATING options begin to decline around 25-27 and every time I have seen that said they specifically say “their relationship value to men, not their value as a human being. D…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/23 07:19 PM
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This is anecdotal, but I personally am 41 with very attractive fairly long term live in GF that is in her early 20s, and I am just a construction worker who makes more than average, but I am in no way wealthy. I do look younger than 41 and I am in outstanding shape due to doing extreme sport construction every day. I take care of her and her son far better than anyone else has by a country mile as she is from generational poverty, and I didn’t come from much better. The father is totally absent.…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 04:42 AM
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Gisele was considered one of the most beautiful women on the planet at the time they hooked up.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 11:27 PM
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For one I bet the divorce was over a power play.. she is a boss chic who is use to being able to tell people what to do, so she said “retire or I’m leaving” and he refused to retire. I have never heard a peep about Tom that was not as positive as it can get. Even from Gisele, so hypothetically he was as wealthy as they get, as high status as they get, as attractive as they get and desires by every woman on the planet from 18 to 99… that is hyperbolic of course, but barely.. everyone wants to do …
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 11:26 PM
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PS I doubt seriously her money or status mattered to Tom at all.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 10:27 PM
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That is a perfect example of someone who broke up their family just because they were not happy in the short term.. Only to have him retire in just a couple years anyway.. You think she will upgrade from Tom Brady?!?!
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 10:26 PM
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I said duty not dread. If your primary reason for staying is emotional, and emotions are inherently fickle , subjective and usually illogical. Guess what your outcomes will be?? People will leave because they are not happy in a given moment when a) happiness is never perpetual and b) happiness is not necessarily even logical… I doubt seriously most couples who made it 50 years were in love for all of those years… but they stayed loyal and ended back in love again.. Not to mention you can’t reall…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 10:23 PM
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Not all men cheat at all, but even when they do they are IN GENERAL loyal in regards to accepting financial and social responsibilities to those they care about.. because to men sex is just a biological function and there could be zero emotional connection.. we can sleep with some even if we hate their guts. We have zero problem compartmentalizing sex and relationships. When IN GENERAL women cheat it is usually to replace you or if they were offered the same commitment and/or lifestyle with the …
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 10:16 PM
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That in no way addresses what I said.. The vast majority of people consider a divorce a failure.. People do not use a frivolous reason to justify a failure when they have a excellent justification for that failure that is true.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 09:58 PM
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No I am saying why would you assume people are making it sound like they failed at something important for frivolous reasons when they a perfectly reasonable justification is the truth.. Common sense would say it is far more likely to go the other direction and then claim abuse or infidelity when they just were not happy enough. That is the “doctrine of dissimilarity” in historian speech. Aka people don’t usually tell a lie that makes them look worse. They tell a lie that makes them look better.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 07:03 PM
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Apparently not by the stats.. Marriage is the the worst shape ever, pretty much in every category now that we are trying to base it on subjective and changing emotions and happiness.. When it was about duty to family, “who will help me raise the best family unit” and women were not incentivized to leave marriages lasted. Everyone had Christmas dinner at grandma’s house, families stuck together.. You would be right if now there were maybe less marriages but they worked and thus fewer divorces.. B…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 06:56 PM
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The point of RP in this department is that women only want to be approached by the guys they want to be approached by and take offense to being approached by anyone they do not want to be approached by. When from the man’s POV there is absolutely no way to know what category you are in before hand. That they IN GENERAL do not want to have to do the approaching, but then get offended when someone they are not attracted to approaches them. Which is kinda a fair analysis concerning the women who ge…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 06:45 PM
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It would never be all of anything your side stepping by trying to make an absolutist argument. .. it would be the majority or at a higher rate. Which is exactly what we see. The couple societies that glorified being overweight did so because it was a sign of wealth and economic mobility was almost unheard of. So they were not lizard brain attracted to it. It was about taking any chance possible to rise in station. Aka that was cultural necessity over ruling lizard brain attraction. Also I bet mo…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 06:36 PM
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A) That assumes humans were magically special in the animal kingdom. There are a few exceptions but the vast majority of males kill any other male’s offspring they come across specifically to stop them from competing with their own. Then with the few that I know of that do not (prairie dogs and bonobos) all the females specifically sleep with all the other males to avoid that. So even with them the trigger is there. Females just found a work around for it. So it always seems like a massive leap …
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 06:28 PM
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Single father households pretty much keep pace with traditional households, but that is not a fair comparison because in general only the very best single fathers get custody. It isn’t fair to claim fathers are always better parents when you are comparing the best fathers with the best, average and worst mothers.. That would make me a bad faith actor.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:47 PM
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I said the only young attractive guys who care about a women’s money are those who cannot support themselves…. But you see young successful super models hook up with old rich celebrities all the time. They didn’t need to do it for the money and did it for the status.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:43 PM
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It increases te options available.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:41 PM
1

I am trying to reply to about 50 different posts every time I jump on lol.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:41 PM
-1

Ditto
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:39 PM
1

Your location and ratio of males to females is absolutely going to matter relative to your options.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:36 PM
-1

No but the majority is.. that is what makes it the average. It applies to the majority of people. Lol
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:35 PM
1

Again, not a rebuttal that is a deflection.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:34 PM
1

Call it maté selection then… Because the better the outcomes of our children the better the outcomes for society as a whole.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:33 PM
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Adoption is not your DNA and freezing your eggs is very expensive and not applicable to the vast majority of people.. But that is irrelevant because it is because of evolutionary programming from caveman days and before.. Lizard brain things like attraction and sexual orientation do not change over a couple decades. It takes 10s of thousands of generations.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:32 PM
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My personal story is absolutely anecdotal and a larger age gap than the average. So yes that makes me an exception. See how easy that was. Lol Which direction 3 year age gap for marriage?? Men are the older party, and to get that number they are including the 20 year age gaps with the times they were the same age or younger, coming to a 3 year average. So that is evidence for the fact women care less about if the man is older, not evidence against it.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:30 PM
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No one said only.. I said men value wealth and status far less. I have in no way made an absolute argument.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:26 PM
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Who said youth was valued above all else.. I said we value different things in the opposite sex in a different order. Your arguing a point no one even claimed.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:24 PM
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Logic is math. Emotions are not. Logic is evidence based. Emotions are a gut feeling. They are very different things.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:23 PM
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A) I never said they do not value beauty, I said it is lower on their list and a guy can make up for a lack of beauty, where IN GENERAL a woman cannot. B) Purity is relative and virgins are no longer a realistic option. When they were an option, most men chose virgins. If you ask most men if they would rather wife a girl with 50 bodies or 5 and the VAST majority will say 5. Ask most women and they will say they don’t really care. Because evolutionarily men had to verify paternity or it wouldn’t …
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:21 PM
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Why wouldn’t you take what people say when they are not under duress at face value?!?? So taking what they say is reaching, but assuming some alternative motivation is not reaching?!? People usually want the best justification they can get to admit they failed at something as important as a marriage. Aka they are more likely to make it sound worse, than make it sound better.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:14 PM
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Fair enough 99% of societies in history had basic Lu the same beauty standard. Being overweight was a sign of wealth not beauty.. So that doesn’t really count. Because social mobility was almost nonexistent, so if you had the chance to jump classes, you took it because it might be generations before you got that chance again… if ever.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 03:11 PM
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Have the most options.. there is a difference.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:38 PM
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I disagree.. Most of it is based on what was and was not an evolutionary advantage in pre-history when we were still evolving. The things that signal the ability to create a healthy child like symmetrical features and beauty are universal among the sexes today. Then the things that would increase the chance to verify paternity are either attractive or a turnoff to men today. Then the things that would suggest they could protect and provide for a kid are still attractive to women today. 1+1=2.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 12:59 PM
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Who is the older party in the 2.3 year age gap?? The man.. It is common knowledge that women date older more than men do.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 12:54 PM
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Fair enough maybe it has shifted lately, but financial is still number 2, and unreasonable behavior is as broad as you can possibly get.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 12:52 PM
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Not wanted to date old men, “are more attracted to wealth, status and experience “ .. the old is just a symptom because wealth and status usually increases with age… Who is the younger party in that 2.3 year age gap?? The woman. It is common knowledge women date older men more than men date older women..
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 12:50 PM
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A) No it isn’t.. it isn’t illegal until the victim leaves the relationship and at best is a civil matter.. unless it is a threat of violence specifically. You can’t go to the police and say “my husband who I’m staying with said this” and have him arrested unless it is specifically a threat of violence. Or you cannot go to the cops and say “make my husband stop calling me fat”. When that would hypothetically be emotional verbal abuse. B) it makes zero sense that someone would have a very legit re…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 12:47 PM
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I’m a perfect world, but the studies are often including when the father does stick around , but is not in the household. Call me crazy but I don’t expect bad faith actors to act right, but hypothetically if the mother is not a bad faith actor. We can expect her not to have a bad faith actors child just because he made her tingle.. That is like explaining expecting a rapist not to rape , rather than protecting those we can from rapists. The rapist is a bad faith actor who is probably not gonna h…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 12:35 PM
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They studies were not targeting a specific demographic, so all were represented. The “compilation” studies like that are looking at the data from a hundred studies. The base studies took jail statistics where if I remember, it is like 70% of those incarcerated came from single mother households. Then the study you listed used it and other studies. If they are just looking at jail for example all demographics are going to be represented. I don’t doubt that in low income families the contrast is w…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 12:32 PM
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We all watch it play out on a daily basis. Anything that would have been an evolutionary advantage in cave man days lines up with what we are attracted to today. For example: “Men are more worried about body count because men had to verify paternity “ If you were not worried about putting your resources into someone else’s offspring, it wouldn’t be your dna that went into the future The more partners a woman has the less chance it will be your offspring.. While women carry the kids so it is alwa…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:53 AM
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Attraction is lizard brain stuff, while cultural stuff is cerebral cortex.. To say attraction is cultural means that people can choose not to be gay.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:47 AM
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I would bet you she could not, because the nfl star would already have money.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:46 AM
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Agreed a whole lot of people worried about HVM are in no way HVM.. lol Like someone who would leave their wife because of her age is not high value.. he might cheat SECRETLY where it doesn’t effect the families reputation and be high value.. but a HVM is going to take care of his responsibilities for life.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:44 AM
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A) In caveman days the best hunter would be the wealthiest and thus best provider. So it predates modern cultural dynamics. Evolution doesn’t work over decades it works over 10’s of thousands of generations. So nothing cultural is even relevant evolutionarily. B) it doesn’t need to be 100% to be an evolutionary advantage. It just needs to be more likely.. but younger women have a higher chance of a viable pregnancy as well. C) for men a pregnancy is no risk, so it was still an evolutionary advan…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:40 AM
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No one said men like sex more.. The claim is that women are pickier.. They might have sex just as much, but just with the guy who checks those boxes. Which makes perfect sense evolutionarily because a pregnancy is so risky and expensive for women while it is basically no risk at all to men. The amount of sex desired is not even part of that.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:33 AM
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Most are common sense.. “Guys had to verify paternity” that makes perfect sense about why men care more about body count than women.. Women are more attractive to wealth and status, they would have a better ability to set a kid up for success.. Men date younger while women date older, and men are fertile for life while women have menopause. Women are attracted to height, which would make you better at being a protector. Which RP evolutionary claim do you think doesn’t make sense?
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:29 AM
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That is what pre-nups are for but it is super common.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:25 AM
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That is an anecdotal assumption to be fair.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:23 AM
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That is the way to do it.. I have told my daughter since she was born there is no reason to date someone you are not vetting for marriage.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:22 AM
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If your not the average, your an exception to the rule.. that is the definition of “exception to the rule” lol Someone outside the norm.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:21 AM
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That sounds super subjective as to what is considered unreasonable.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:20 AM
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That is because they are.. lol If your not the average, you are an exception to the rule.. that is the definition of an exception to the rule.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:20 AM
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Because those is a legitimately good reason to leave a marriage in everyone’s eyes and is worth the fact leaving is going to put your child at every statistical disadvantage. Emotional/psychological abuse is way too subjective and broad and isn’t even illegal unless they are stalking someone after you leave them. So you would really have to define exactly what you mean.. I see people CONSTANTLY say they left marriages when “he was a guy, I just wasn’t happy”. That is 100% putting your kids at ev…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:19 AM
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Who decided to have a kid with someone before being married and/or who wouldn’t stick around?? Who is and is not born is on the mother 100%. Guys have zero say so in that. So almost everyone of those unmarried single mother households chose that.. They could have vetted their partner.. They could have used 1,000 types of birth control.. They could have taken the morning after pill.. You have abortion .. Then you have adoption.. All choice a guy has stops at a condom.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:12 AM
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You have dysfunctional families figured in on both sides… and we are not talking about just a few categories.. they do better STATISTICALLY in EVERY CATEGORY.. Aka that is not a near run thing. Some of those nuclear families didn’t get along either or didn’t get along for a time period, but they stuck it out till it worked again.. I mean come on, if you are married to someone for 50 years then there will probably be a few of them you really didn’t like each other much, but you put your kids firs…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:08 AM
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It isn’t usually the second the money starts coming in , but that is when the clock starts. VERY few women will want to take care of a man long term, but men are perfectly ok with taking care of a woman for life. Usually my money is out money and her money is her money. Lol Which is yet another reason that it rarely benefits a man that a woman works.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 08:11 PM
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She would absolutely be the exception, not the rule. Give it another 10 years and she will absolutely not look as good as she did at 25
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 08:09 PM
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I think you probably want a guy doing as well or better than you are. If not you are an exception, not the majority.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 08:06 PM
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There are not 1,000 studies disproving what is common sense lol.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 08:04 PM
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It because that answers the question at hand lol… It isn’t a fair comparison of if age matters if you skew every other variable against the hypothetical 25 year old.. It is only a fair comparison if the only variables that are different are age related.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 05:38 PM
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Logic does not come from emotions lol.. logic is literally the opposite of emotion. Logic is math. Emotions are not.. 2+2=4 is logical The fact someone feels like it should equal 5 is not logic.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 05:36 PM
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We are not comparing them to families before no fault divorce, we are comparing them to how kids from traditional families preform today… So literally none of that is relevant relevant to how kids preform today. But it is an interesting question for sure. When comparing families before and after that era, I think that would not give the answer you think it would.. All we have to do is look at the African American community for that.. Before no fault divorce and feminism The AA community had it f…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 05:32 PM
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The average man makes 48k. Which is barely enough to raise a family, but it is enough
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 05:07 PM
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Isn’t a good option for marriage or a committed relationship.. it is a perfectly good option if sex is your only goal.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 05:06 PM
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Men value looks more than women. So most women are not going to sleep with unattractive men who do not check some other evolutionary box. Most men will sleep with any woman of even below average attractiveness without her needing to check any other box. Women do not often sleep with random unattractive guys who are scrubs , just because he was there and willing.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 05:05 PM
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That is true. I read it backwards.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 05:02 PM
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There are definitely aspects of RP that do that, but the science behind the different things we are attracted to is pretty flipping solid and based in what was and was not an evolutionary advantage.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 05:01 PM
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But women value wealth, status and experience , things that come with age. While men do not value those things, except for wealth but only if they are broke. Men value youth, beauty , purity and inexperience, because those things in cave man days were ways to verify paternity, and our programming for attraction is from cave man days.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 05:00 PM
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That makes my point doesn’t it lol?!? Men will sleep with someone they do not plan on siding all day long and I think we can both agree only offers for a marriage/serious relationship actually count.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 04:56 PM
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It matters who filed because that is almost always the person who decided to leave. Lol There are definitely good reasons to divorce, but a lot of the time you hear people say their partner was great, but they were not happy. That is a terrible reason to break up a family as it puts the kid at every statistical disadvantage. Kids from Traditional families STATISTICALLY out preform kids from single parent households in every single category. There are always exceptions, but those are exceptions
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 04:54 PM
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They might look awesome for a 40 year old. But those women almost certainly do not look better than they did at 22… That is what is relevant, so they personally look better at 45 than they did at 25 and is that the average person. Sure there are exceptions to every rule, maybe someone lost a lot of weight etc. But that is not the norm. One reason age matters relative a marriage long return relationship is people usually plan on having children. At 30 90% of your eggs are gone and 35 is high risk…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 04:49 PM
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Oh yes the awkward guy can.. he just has to find a way to be accessible to women who are broke. Sure he might not be getting a super model, but above average is absolutely open to him. A women from poverty is gonna hit that kick quite often.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 04:15 PM
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Why are more men voluntarily single later in life?? Supply and demand. They have more options, thus are less willing to settle on one option.. The same happens with women.. When they are young and beautiful they don’t want to settle down , but after 30-35 when their options decline all the sudden they want to settle down.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 03:00 PM
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You don’t move past evolutionary programming after a few decades of cultural change lol.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:57 PM
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Who said women were less horny than men??
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:56 PM
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That doesn’t mean it is totally transactional. It could be and honestly thinking about it, the vast majority of relationships are transactional.. If i stop working and and don’t help around the house. How long will someone stay with me?? That is transactional.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:55 PM
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Because most people take what they can get and are not choosing out of whoever they want. Plus when people cheat they high status men cheat younger, while women cheat in their age range.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:47 PM
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You would be the exception, not the rule. It is not just broke women who do it, but it is basically only broke men who hook up with wealthy old women.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:46 PM
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The point being they have the option, but their female counterparts do not… Just like a young attractive but unemployed woman will get invited to all the best parties and to travel while their counterparts will not.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:39 PM
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The average woman in America only makes 28k a lol year.. barely enough to support yourself, not enough to raise a family and for damn sure not enough to prepare for retirement.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:37 PM
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“A network of high value men” just means you can’t just be the only one who thinks that, nor just your kids or employees aka biased parties. When men cannot control their emotions people get hurt. Raising young men to “do what they feel” is incredibly dangerous. Because sometimes we might feel like punching someone in the mouth. Emotions are inherently illogical and subjective so they are a terrible way to decide what you should do.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:35 PM
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Except for the over abundance of options thing where too many options leads to worse outcomes, it absolutely does lol.. Unless you just have a million things to choose from , more options is almost always better.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:20 PM
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You should read the article.. at least the part on “effects on children because it absolutely concedes the point that they statistically do worse.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:18 PM
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Of course some do.. we are talking about the majority.. plus most family breakdowns are from lower economic families.. Obviously in a case where one partner is physically/sexually abusive they should leave, but for happiness?!? Hell no. That is selfish AF. But I’m about to read the article.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:15 PM
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The best determination is made by looking at the people who can have whoever they want, because it removes those who settle from the equation.. You see successful super models with unattractive older men all the time. You do not see unattractive celebrity women with young nfl stars. Plus most of the people on this thread are very quick to agree With the premise , but claim they don’t tend to last.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:13 PM
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Every culture in human history has had basic Lu the same beauty standards with very little variation. Colorism is ridiculous, but conceding cymetrical features and being in shape , hour glass figure , etc. they are basically universal.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:10 PM
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Not hard to do, but considering I am making an absolutist statement it should be far easier for you to debunk it because you only have to provide one stat where kids from single mother households do better, while it would take me a week of constant searching to provide stats on every single issue.. But I have no problem throwing some out there. “14 times more likely to commit rape, 20 times more likely to end up in prison, 32 times more likely to run away from home.” https://www.fixfamilycourts.…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:08 PM
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Some of it is ridiculous I agree, but not the parts that focus on the evolutionary triggers for attraction. That is science.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:03 PM
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We are objectively just smart apes.. lol Evolution is over 10’s of thousands of years, not decades. Attraction is lizard brain stuff not cultural.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:02 PM
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Only one who was broke.. She could never get a young nfl star, while successful super models date old celebrities every single day.. Celebrities and such are the people who can relatively have whoever they want, so it removes people who just take what they can get. That is why it is relevant.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:00 PM
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Which is not strange because your hanging out with people in your very narrow field. Lol
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:56 PM
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Your the exception not the rule though, plus people say one thing , but then do another. People say that but then have the opportunity to get with someone high status and it is a totally different animal.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:55 PM
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I agree completely that those with a traditional relationship have the best chance for success. But that doesn’t change the way women have the most options in their 20s, but have less options as they get older . While men have less options in their 20s, but get more options as they become more established.. Which is almost totally biological and not cultural, because of those anthropological books. Lol
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:52 PM
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“A 2015 study by the American Sociological Association revealed that women initiate 69 percent of all divorces in the U.S. Further, the same study found that college-educated women initiate divorce at an even higher rate of 90 percent.” https://www.irwinirwin.com/why-do-women-initiate-divorce-more-than-men/ If they have children which most do, then they are putting their children at every statistical disadvantage and are probably going to have less options than they did when they got married. In…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:49 PM
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But is she more attractive with more options than she had at 25? Plus there are exceptions to every rule. Someone might have been very obese at 25 and have gotten in shape at 30.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:43 PM
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But they don’t do as well as they did in their 20s, while on average men have the most options after they are established at like 35.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:41 PM
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It removes the subjectiveness if we look at hospitalization level abuse and narrows it down ti the situations most people are worried about concerning domestic violence. Where the guy is severely beating her and she is scared to leave, rather than the cases where it is trumped up or mutual combat. DV is one of the things people falsely report the most.. For example, If someone kills their wife/husband they always claim their spouse was abusive and/or abusing the kids.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:40 PM
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It sure doesn’t lessen his options.. assuming he has wealth and status. But a woman at 45 is very limited, even with wealth and status. Neither is a bad thing.. it just reverses. Women get all the options kinda for free when they are young and beautiful, but are on a time table. While men have to earn the ability to have a lot of options, but have a way longer time table.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:31 PM
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Of course. I don’t see how that disagrees with anything I have said.. Men parenting as well would have always been an evolutionary advantage too. But it is the evolutionary differences that explain the double standard with body count, age, wealth and status. Not culture.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:27 PM
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I agree completely.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:24 PM
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What about if we only look at the men with the most options and can have anyone they want. That cuts out those who are just taking what they think can get. If we only look at the men with the most wealth and status I bet there is an average of atleast a 15 year age gap for men, while a lot of older celebrity women cannot get a date with any of the men they want.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:23 PM
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I one is reading an essay lol.. mind summarizing it please?
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:19 PM
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Those are the exception not the rule. On average men and women fall neatly in to that dynamic.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 12:55 PM
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Not at all.. I am just an average 40 year old construction worker who just makes enough to be a good provider and I have a 25 year old long term live in GF and just an obscene amount of more options than I did in my 20s. And so does everyone else I know in the same category.. Especially concerning women that are 35+.. at 20 they wouldn’t give me the time of day, but now chase after me.. it is even more so for my boss and other business owners.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 12:53 PM
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That is a terrible way to go through life not planning for your future.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 12:48 PM
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All things mentally being even you would choose a 45 year old over a 25 year old?? Both are educated, both have class, both are intelligent etc.. With the only difference being the differences in physical appearance and the fact the 45 year old already comes with 2 kids and ex husbands? Your choosing the 45 year old? If so you would be the exception not the rule.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 12:47 PM
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Not a good rebuttal lol.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 12:43 PM
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Point being that IN GENERAL men can make up for getting old, being unattractive and out of shape with wealth, experience and status. Women cannot… Because we are not both attracted to all the same things. That translates to women having the most options/being more desirable from 20-25. While men have the most options from 35-45.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 12:43 PM
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But you are the exception.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 12:33 PM
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She is hot as hell.. The point is that a man can make up for being old, ugly and out of shape with wealth experience and status, while women cannot.. because men are not attracted to those things IN GENERAL.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 12:32 PM
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Who said solely?!?! A guy who has wealth and status will be accepted by women with both things.. women who are young and attractive with class and an education regardless of his looks or if he is in shape. while women don’t have the option to make up for being unattractive with experience, wealth and status.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 12:26 PM
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But men can make up for the drop in being physically attractive with wealth, status and experience. Women can’t, because in general men are not attracted to those things while women in general are.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 12:23 PM
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It is about them having less trauma and baggage, not about control. Less partners means less heartbreak, kids and trauma. Plus if you want a family they are more fertile and have a far greater chance of a problem free pregnancy and are more physically attractive. They are also more available because they are less likely to have a career. They are more likely to look up and admire someone who is older and well established, but they are not necessarily easier to control and are FAR less likely to …
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 12:22 PM
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Ivanka trump is a unicorn who still looks 20a d is probably not even that old.… go older and pick someone unattractive, but has money and status.. Point being Men can make up for being old , ugly and out of shape with status and wealth. Women cannot. Robert Dinero married a 24 year old bar tender and is 210 years old and no longer attractive at all. You do not see old unattractive women with young attractive men who have options and money.. you do see that with old unattractive men though every …
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 11:59 AM
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That is an unfair leap. We should take people’s word for it not assume they really meant X, Y and Z. Plus look up the stats for physical abuse.. only 1-10,000 people will ever experience hospitalization level physical abuse if memory serves.. it is not nearly as common as people think relative to the public could conversation. Plus if we remove the cases where it is mutual combat, men face physical abuse far more than women, it is just rarely life threatening.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 03:33 AM
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But it also means more competition… at 22 men are having to compete with men from 20-45 and at 45 women are having to compete with women from 22-50 for example. It is the same for both groups it just flips as we get older. Women have all the options at 20-25, then those options decline, while men have to wait till 30+ but then continue gaining more and more options.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 03:30 AM
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I think it is safer to look at who is filing ad the reason they state.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 03:27 AM
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I have never seen anything claim it was based on a single stat. RP says most of attraction is based on evolutionary triggers… Things programmed in since cave man days that were an evolutionary advantage when we were still evolving. Which is very hard to argue against since the things both sexes are attracted to like beauty are a sign of being able to produce healthy offspring and the things where we differ are based on the different goals based around the fact women carry the kids and men had to…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 03:26 AM
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You are absolutely an exception not a rule.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 03:19 AM
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Makes enough to provide a good life, takes care of his family, prepares his children for adulthood, stays in shape, has a network of other high quality men who respect him, is in control of himself emotionally.. That is the normal definition, would you disagree?
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:47 AM
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Makes enough to provide a good life, takes care of his family, prepares his children for adulthood, stays in shape, has a network of other high quality men who respect him, is in control of himself emotionally.. That is the normal definition
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:46 AM
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I don’t know if it is the majority, but they go into those fields at higher trades than women.. It should be the minority of both groups getting student loan debt for fields that will probably never pay for your loans.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:43 AM
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Don’t most people agree the kids should come first?? I would say that we are all responsible for our own emotional happiness and shouldn’t blame shift or on to others. What if we remove the “grass is greener” effect and a crystal ball were to tell them “hey, it is all doesn’t hill from here” partner wise??
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:40 AM
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Presently men and women ADMIT to cheating at pretty much the same rate. Plus it is easier for women to cheat and they are looked at worse for cheating by society , fair or not. So it is probably women who cheat more presently.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:37 AM
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To a career guy a career woman is a hindrance.. now both parties work all the time, both are tired every day. You have 2 jobs to work around to go on dates or vacations… So what if he has the option of a 25 year old from a wealthy family and a good education or a 45 year old from a wealthy family with a good education? Assuming similar temperament? Guess who is going to come with less trauma, kids and other liabilities?
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:34 AM
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The FBI crime statistics, CDC demographic studies.. it is just a google away.. I am making an absolutist statement here. So you only have to find one single category where kids from single mother households do better to prove me wrong… But that doesn’t exist.. If I was trying to be a bad faith actor I would point out that single father households preform better than single mother households, but that is not a fair comparison because only the best fathers get custody. So that would be comparing o…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:29 AM
1

Is it smarter to operate on what is possible or what is probable?
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:23 AM
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“A 2015 study by the American Sociological Association revealed that women initiate 69 percent of all divorces in the U.S. Further, the same study found that college-educated women initiate divorce at an even higher rate of 90 percent.” https://www.irwinirwin.com/why-do-women-initiate-divorce-more-than-men/ But when they do get a divorce it is basically always the woman who files.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:22 AM
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Because you have 2 CAREERS to work around.. Wanna go on vacation, both have to get off work.. both are tired after a long day so neither wants to cater to the other and those types of things. Plus usually my money is out money, while her money is her money. So it tends to personally benefit men way less. Then you have the biological stuff where women are attracted to experience, because that experience increases the chance he would be able to navigate problems they face in the future. While men …
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:20 AM
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Your right.. young women chase them.. look at any celebrity, athlete or wealthy person, and it rarely matters how they look. But you do not see young college athletes chasing Oprah.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:14 AM
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Every dating app stat, study ever done and just what we see in the world around us every day.. It is biological. IN GENERAL women are programmed to be attracted to the things that increase the chance of raising healthy offspring after they are born, because they carry the kids and know any kid they have is always their dna. While IN GENERAL men are attracted to things that help us verify paternity of healthy offspring. Because dna tests are a brand new thing. Which is exactly how it plays out in…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:12 AM
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Assuming all things are equal do you think a high socioeconomic man would take a 25 yo or a 45 yo?? Assuming both are marriage minded, educated, etc??
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:05 AM
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That is because the things women value IN GENERAL increase as men gain maturity, wealth , status and are more likely to want to settle down. While the things men value in women in general decrease as they age.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:03 AM
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I’m not sure men have changed.. the rules have always remained the same for us. It is women that now have totally new dynamics to deal with.. For the first time in human history women can have casual sex without the threat of STDs or unwanted pregnancy, and can actually profit from leaving a marriage. But I absolutely agree things have gotten worse. Because women IN GENERAL want the best single partner they can have and men IN GENERAL will sleep with someone far below what they qualify for. It h…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:57 AM
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What both groups judge as quality is totally different because different traits were an evolutionary advantage in cave man days when we were still evolving. Women carry the kids, so IN GENERAL, they are programmed to go for wealth status and protection because those are the traits that had the best chance of sending their dna into the future. Men had to verify paternity because we do not carry the kids and dna tests are brand new. So we are attracted to things that increase the chance our DNA wi…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:49 AM
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I think most people expect for whoever is not the breadwinner to do most of the housework and childcare. If the woman is the breadwinner then that would be on the man to do. That is just very rarely the case and when it is IN GENERAL, the woman will assume she can do better and leave. Women IN GENERAL are programmed by evolution to be attracted to providers, because it was an evolutionary advantage since they carry the kids, while men in general are not programmed to be attracted to providers. W…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:43 AM
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If someone’s feelings do not match reality, what is wrong?? Reality or their feelings?
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:38 AM
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If the average expectation doesn’t match the average reality. That is called unrealistic by definition. Historically, before the last 80 years or so, marriage has been about duty to your family and “who will help you build the best family unit.” It is only the last 80 years where love was expected up front and perpetual happiness was the expectation. Aka the Disney princess trope. Since then marriage rates have dropped dramatically, divorce rates and kids raised by single mother households have …
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:37 AM
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It is always better to operate on probability, rather than possibility.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:30 AM
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The majority of women are biologically attracted to good providers, because women carry the kids so that has always been an evolutionary advantage. Plus men are fertile for life, vastly increasing the length of time they have to start a family. So for all of human history women in general have been attracted to older men. Women are fertile at a younger age and the less sexual partners the they have the increased chance the offspring they are carrying is going to be his, making being attracted to…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:29 AM
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But a woman’s wealth and status only matters to men who need help their to pay the bills… To a guy who can pay the bills solo those things are either irrelevant or a hindrance. While they are very important to the average woman, so while increasing in wealth and status increases a man’s options, it usually decreases a woman’s options, because very few women want a guy they have to pay for. So a guy can make up for being older, unattractive, out of shape or being awkward by increasing his wealth …
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 05:29 PM
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What about when you factor in that most marriages have kids involved and kids from single mother households do worse in every conceivable category.. Of course that doesn’t mean zero kids from single parent households succeed in life, nor that no one from a traditional family has ever been a serial killer, But look at any negative statistic and it is dominated by single mother households.. People in prison , income as an adult, rapists, unemployment, teen pregnancy, kids being molested or abused,…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 05:17 PM
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The majority site financial reasons and/or not being happy. Not the things like abuse, infidelity. Or other tangible things that would make a partner “bad”.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 05:11 PM
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Assuming the higher quality men would still accept a younger woman then that is increased competition, while not being accepted by the lower quality men would mean less options. I can’t think of any scenario where less options and more competition is the more preferable options.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 05:01 PM
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That literally says women have unrealistic expectations lol…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 03:56 PM
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Your moving the goal post. Every job site says the same thing. The average is 40-60k As of Jan 23, 2023, the average annual pay for the Bachelor Degree In Psychology jobs category in the United States is $54,734 a year. ZipRecruiter Bachelor Degree In Psychology Salary - ZipRecruiter The median salaries of psychology bachelor's, master's, and doctoral/professional degree holders in 2019 were $50,000, $60,000, and $90,000, respectively.Nov 1, 2021 American Psychological Association Datapoint: How…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 03:55 PM
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So are you saying you have more dating/marriage options now than you did when you were 22 for example??
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 03:40 PM
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I should have specified “marriage” options as it is kinda common knowledge that most men will sleep with anyone willing who is even of average attractiveness. That is definitely my fault.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 03:38 PM
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My pleasure.. “As a psychology major graduate in the USA, you can expect to earn on average $40,858 per year or $19.64 per hour. Zippia Average Psychology Major Salary: By Location, Industry, and Company - Zippia”
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 03:36 PM
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But you are probably the exception and your career is probably not in liberal arts lol.. I agree a lot of those stats are inaccurate, but one person who beats the average doesn’t debunk it. Psychology, social work, liberal arts degrees probably will not pay for someone’s student loans.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 02:58 PM
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They are probably mostly true, but look at how skewed they are.. A tattoo is body mutilation?!?! How are they getting the stats on herpes that is not showing symptoms?!?! “Useless degrees” rather than a probably low income degree.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 02:53 PM
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Go to the gym and make enough money to support a family.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 02:02 PM
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Um, yes humans are absolutely just a hair smarter animals…
/r/AntiFeminists30/01/23 04:50 PM
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That is not what I mean lol.. Birds evolved not to have penises at all and the mainstream option is that it is because lady birds didn’t like them.
/r/AntiFeminists30/01/23 04:25 PM
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Which makes her the problem… What if she looked in a crystal ball and knew he was the best she was ever going to get? Think she would still be unhappy? The expectation of “true love” and being perpetually happy is literally only a concept that is 80 years old. For the rest of human history it was about duty and “who will help me build the best family unit” and your personal happiness was very very secondary. So it was inconceivable to leave someone who was a great man and father.. A lot of time …
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/23 01:36 PM
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Become a good protector and provider..
/r/ExRedPill30/01/23 10:48 AM
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If he is a great guy and yet still gives her the ick. The problem is with her.. You don’t break up a family for your own happiness. Marriage is not about your happiness.. It is about duty and who will help you build the best family unit.
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/23 10:47 AM
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A) I never said these things cannot be changed… black pill are the ones who claim genetics are king and you cannot effect attraction with improvement. B) There are exceptions to every rule, so there is no use talking about exceptions.. but most wealthy men will have beautiful wives and half the time multiple beautiful mistresses.. You can be ugly with wealth and status and have women lined up to be mrs. ugly rich guy’s wife. C) often evolutionary attraction is common sense.. Who can best protect…
/r/ExRedPill30/01/23 12:15 AM
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That is why I said a dark alley situation instead of a burglary where someone was going to have to engage the threat.
/r/ExRedPill30/01/23 12:01 AM
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Concerning a long term partner/husband/wife Women are generally attracted to status, wealth, height , muscles confidence and experience. While men are attracted to beauty, youth/fertility, loyalty, purity and inexperience. The biggest turn off ever for a woman is desperation, while men being attracted to a damsel in distress is literally common enough to be a trope. And both sides for biological reasons because attraction is lizard brain stuff not cultural. Ya’ll carrying the kids and us having …
/r/ExRedPill29/01/23 09:55 PM
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Nothing at all that is the Kevin samuels approach. I am not at all an Andrew Tate fan because of the fact he acknowledges the degradation of the family unit while pushing the opposite narrative.
/r/ExRedPill29/01/23 02:37 PM
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There is a massive difference between an Andrew Tate and a Kevin samuels type approach. For sure. One pushes using women as a product while the other pushes a traditional family set up. Both are just using biology to do that.
/r/ExRedPill29/01/23 01:59 PM
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All of human history it has based your worth on production.. Even in caveman days the best hunter/gatherer would be more valuable than the worst hunter/gatherer.
/r/ExRedPill29/01/23 01:55 PM
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Every red pill thing I have seen freely acknowledges there are always unicorns, but in general the majority of men want X, while the majority of women want Y, and your better off doing what has the best chance for success. Which is catering to the majority.
/r/ExRedPill29/01/23 01:53 PM
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That sounds good but in reality is not the best course of action.. If both people can escape without conflict, that is the best course of action… So let’s use a better analogy where a couple is attacked in a dark ally, where escape is not really as likely. There there best strategy is for the physically dominant person to engage the threat , while the less physical person runs for help. Who is most likely to be the physically dominant party? Probably the guy.
/r/ExRedPill29/01/23 01:50 PM
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Most of red pill is just acknowledging the evolutionary/biological triggers for attraction. The reason the majority of the population is liberal is not because the left supports inclusion.. It is because the right decided to push obvious logical fallacies and double down against science, so they ran off everyone who wasn’t already a conservative bad faith actor. Make no mistake, logic math and science always win. It doesn’t matter if they are against religion, inclusion , feminism, racism, etc..
/r/ExRedPill29/01/23 01:42 PM
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Grown men who get laid are not controlled by sex… Take sex away from us and it is a totally different animal. But I am talking about a far grander scale.. Don’t get me wrong, it would be very hard to get every woman on board to do anything, but if the fact you were a pedo/rapis/domestic abuser/fill in the blank meant no woman who knew that would ever willingly touch them again., all of those things almost totally disappear inside of 3 generations (60 years)…we wouldn’t have to wait on evolution,…
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/23 02:43 AM
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But women who did have good fathers ass still attracted to the same traits as women without a good father.. now they probably do a worse job of distinguishing between good tough guys and bad ones, but the same traits are generally attractive to all women
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/23 10:11 PM
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Attraction is a lizard brain thing , not a cultural thing.
/r/AntiFeminists28/01/23 10:06 PM
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That is true for every species where the female cannot just be pinned down… The reason some bird species do not have penises is because female bird didn’t like them and have to “consent” to breed and didn’t like them for some reason. It is simple biology for every living creature.. whoever controls access to breeding can shape the species in anyway they choose just by not breeding with anyone with whatever undesirable trait.
/r/AntiFeminists28/01/23 10:02 PM
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It isn’t because she hasn’t experienced it. It is because it is evolutionarily programmed in.
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/23 07:58 PM
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They have unrealistic expectations and probably have no idea how to be a wife..
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/23 07:44 PM
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Yes…. It is the buyer who decides your value in that department.
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/23 07:44 PM
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Is he willing to marry you after a year??? Then he is out of your league.
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/23 07:41 PM
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Stable and healthy relationships are by definition boring.. happiness is not supposed to be perpetual. It is a treat. For both parties. Duty and putting your family unit first is supposed to be the glue, not happiness or even love.. Thinking you need to be in love to marry is like 80 years compared to all of human history.
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/23 07:38 PM
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It is evolutionary programming. Before civilization and kinda the modern era without a provider make you and your offspring starved.
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/23 07:35 PM
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The confusion happens because the same traits that make someone a good hero also make them a good villain and people get confused about which they are dealing with.
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/23 07:34 PM
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Biology.. women are programmed to be attracted to good protectors and provider’s because ya’ll carry the kids and our programming comes from caveman days or before. Not from cultural stuff.
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/23 07:32 PM
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FOR SURE, men will be whatever is required for us to get sex… if they require commitment, monogamy, brig GQ, money.. not be rapists or domestic abusive… Whatever is required.
/r/AntiFeminists28/01/23 07:28 PM
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Yea I think we are at a weird intermediary place where they still get the benefits of being property, but without the penalties of being free and independent. Not that that is their fault , but more a symptom of change.
/r/AntiFeminists19/01/23 06:39 PM
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No women are a privileged group.. not in the past, but presently. Feminists kinda have a bad rap atm
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/23 09:26 PM
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I have no idea how you thought I was going the opposite direction by any of my messages lol
/r/AntiFeminists15/01/23 10:49 PM
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Of course.
/r/AntiFeminists15/01/23 08:01 PM
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Because past history is the best predictor of future behavior. Sexual history is not some magic thing that breaks that rule that applies to everything else.
/r/AntiFeminists15/01/23 06:49 PM
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That if you knowingly do things with a really high chance of going terribly wrong, then you don’t get to act surprised when things go terribly wrong. Ya gotta own it and take accountability.
/r/AntiFeminists15/01/23 06:45 PM
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When it all goes terribly wrong
/r/AntiFeminists15/01/23 06:34 PM
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It is and should absolutely be your choice, but when you do something with a better chance of failure, you don’t get to act all surprised about it..
/r/AntiFeminists14/01/23 09:59 PM
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It is the equivalent of a woman hooking up with an ex con who has a history of DV and cheating.. Sure it is possible he might change, but he probably won’t..
/r/AntiFeminists14/01/23 09:52 PM
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The person you choose as a partner is LITERALLY the most important decision anyone ever makes..
/r/AntiFeminists14/01/23 09:50 PM
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So is hooking up with the wrong woman lol… People have survived jumping off of cliffs as well… That is one of the differences between most men and most women, lol.. Women operate on what is possible, not what is probable.
/r/AntiFeminists14/01/23 09:49 PM
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Of course, but it is also up to you if you want to jump off a cliff.. still doesn’t make it a good idea. Lol
/r/AntiFeminists14/01/23 09:30 PM
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Yes…. Unless they want to stop valuing us on our future. Lol
/r/AntiFeminists14/01/23 09:29 PM
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Of course.. the concept that only a member of whatever group can comment is ridiculous.. someone might be an expert in that field or just have a good idea.
/r/AntiFeminists14/01/23 02:08 AM
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The op is just a cool story an extreme version of the attitude most men wished their wives had.
/r/MensRights12/01/23 06:11 PM
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The OP or reply?
/r/MensRights12/01/23 06:09 PM
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Women. Could 100% end rape, domestic violence and pedophilia if doing so meant no woman would ever knowingly touch you again, and it doesn't take 3 generations.. Ps I am not saying it is fair or their problem to fix, but it would work.
/r/MensRights12/01/23 05:58 PM
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I assume it will all even out.. women are adjusting to the freedom to have casual sex without risking pregnancy and the ability to leave and get paid for it. Evolution is over tens of thousands of generations so it can't keep up with the pace of societal change, but usually the best results will float to the top and become the ideal.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 01:59 PM
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What gives me credibility in this regard is because I have spent years as the head of a black family, with years living neck deep in AA culture because i am paired up with an actual black woman from the very worst of hoods in Memphis. With about 4,000 hours of pre and post civil war history.. The only way I could have more credibility is if I was an AA or had even more time in, while still having the same knowledge of history.
/r/MensRights09/01/23 09:25 PM
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If your rebuttal is only your gatekeeping/mansplsing/woke/nah uh/playing Grammer nazi/ect, without including a rebuttal. That is a sad deflection. I am not accusing you of doing all those things, they are just examples of sad deflections. To the topic, I think it is common sense that if you have lived your entire life as white VERY ATTRACTIVE, female and faced none of the things the black community has and had to face. You don't get to come out and claim, want credit and victim status for being …
/r/MensRights09/01/23 09:17 PM
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Sad deflections lol The other guy is saying it is a good idea if everyone is considered guilty of sexual assault because it is a good idea to have rape and grabbing someone's butt at a drunken party both be put in the same box, because women are doing it. Aka we should validate their terrible logic by pretending it makes sense so we can do the same to them... While I say we should keep sexual assault meaning only those unforgivable things like rape and child molestation. Here I am the one saying…
/r/MensRights09/01/23 08:02 PM
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No I confused your reply with a guy on the post about Henry cavil being sexually assaulted by Amy Adam's.
/r/MensRights09/01/23 06:33 PM
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I apologize relied to the wrong post string.
/r/MensRights09/01/23 06:01 PM
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Any time you have to go with personal attacks instead of a rebuttal is inherently a sad deflection.
/r/MensRights09/01/23 06:00 PM
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It doesn't take an expert, just common semse. Your making the woke argument lol, thar any unwanted sexual touching should be fairly be put in the same box as rape. I am for sure making the right-wing argument, that we shouldn't be expanding the definition of SA to include things that are in no way causing permanent mental scars. I guess your just so used to using woke as a sad deflection you can't help but use it even when you are the one making the woke argument. HA.
/r/MensRights09/01/23 05:49 PM
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HA ain't nothing even liberal about anything I have said here ... I'm guessing that your so used to going with the woke jargon you just do it on reflex as a sad deflection? Huh
/r/MensRights09/01/23 11:10 AM
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HA that is Olympic level sad deflections... both not on topic amd ridiculous... you must still be in high-school lol. An actual man would take the L and mo e o b the the next topic.
/r/MensRights09/01/23 11:07 AM
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That is a sad deflection not a rebuttal.. which is actually a chic move.. Speaking of which I am the one saying not to use chic moves lol
/r/MensRights09/01/23 06:22 AM
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So instead let's just make everyone guilty of sexual assault because everyone agrees any unwanted touching makes you the equivalent of a rapist.. yea that will have the best outcome lol
/r/MensRights09/01/23 03:00 AM
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Really it is a terrible comparison to compare or with chattle slavery. Assuming women are enslaved and do not have any chance of winning , then they would do what they have to survive like with every other enslaved group in history.. If a slave owner in the south for example wants to rape your 12 year old daughter, your only choice is if she gets to watch her father flayed alive before hand.. She is getting raped either way.
/r/MensRights09/01/23 02:58 AM
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Who said that?? There are more than 2 options there. You can even make the reverse argument as an example while maintaining neither are actually sexual assault or point out that SA is such a broad term that it is basically irrelevant and only being used for clickbait which is the truth. That is why we shouldn't be expanding the definitions or horrible things to include the tiniest of infractions. I mean sure grabbing someone's butt at a drunken party technically fits the definition, but that is …
/r/MensRights09/01/23 02:43 AM
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My point is not a straw man.. It is that word that is so. Road it puts grabbing someone's butt in the same box as a gang rape is meaningless.. That is not a strawman argument.
/r/MensRights09/01/23 02:35 AM
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Your link was to grammerlly..
/r/MensRights09/01/23 02:23 AM
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You think it is smarter to have everyone agree with the flawed logic and pretend I makes sense lol?! That is a terrible idea. Objectively a terrible idea. You don't play ball. You make the argument that it wasn't SA/racism. You do not pretend d it was so let's just wrong way more people.
/r/MensRights09/01/23 02:20 AM
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The slaves in Rome that rebelled were crucified lol. There was never a successful slave rebellion.. They were crucified. So is that a successful slave rebellion??? It is not a successful slave revolt if your put right back into bandage or executed?!? What are you considering a successful slave revolt, they cause a little damage before be in NG destroyed? They were oppressed in the past, now it is the opposite, they have the benefits of being property, but without the cost of being free.
/r/MensRights09/01/23 02:16 AM
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A) playing Grammer nazi is the saddest form of deflection.. B) I didn't do that. I said it is a terrible Idea to validate flawed logic by reversing it and pretending it is valid. You can use it to point out hypocrisy, but you still gotta maintain the logic is flawed. You don't reverse it and pretend it makes sense lol
/r/MensRights08/01/23 11:51 PM
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Again nothing but sad deflections without a rebuttal.. Emotional arguments are inherently logical fallacies
/r/MensRights08/01/23 11:47 PM
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Nothing... Only once in history did an enslaved group rise out of slavery of their own accord, and that was in Haiti a d they had to murder wevery white man woman amd child to do it. To end slavery without doing that you have to create a coalition of those enslaved people and those in the pro- slavery group to do it. I mean you are raping and torturing them while keeping all the fruits of theor labor. So your entire culture has to be set up to stop rebellions. Just like in sparta,they did not be…
/r/MensRights08/01/23 11:40 PM
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No correct the logic, just don't attempt to reverse bad logic which validates it. Like when they pretend something ridiculous is sexual assault, do not point to a girl doing the same and accuse her of sexual assault too, unless you are pointing out the hypocrisy while still maintaining neither was actually sexual assault.. If we want sexual assault to mean that person is a terrible person. They we can only count things that make you a terrible person as sexual assault. That is why expanding thes…
/r/MensRights08/01/23 11:33 PM
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Yes I am a liberal.. lol Hypothetically, isn't the liberal position that Markle is a double victim as both a woman and of African decent?? I am a realistic. Saying your gatekeepers is literally the liberal sad deflection for when you cannot defend your position. ah la mansplaining. Those both mean " I don't like the way what you said makes me feel, but I do not have a rebuttal. Your the one making the cancel culture PC sad deflection amd pretending it is a rebuttal. Ha
/r/MensRights08/01/23 07:41 PM
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Not a rebuttal... if your right you could defend your position, if you cannot defend your position you lose.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 07:37 PM
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No it is validating terrible logic.. Instead of them making the argument that their logic is ridiculous, they make the argument, " your ogic is good, so let's go after X woman who did the same to a man." That is validating their terrible idea. Which is the worst possible thing we can do.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 05:49 AM
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For sure, but as I said earlier if you point at someone and say " he sexual assaulted this girl in high-school. We want it to mean he is a terrible person above redemption not that he grabbed a girl's butt without permission at drunken party. We need bright red lines thar seperate the things that matter and are likely to leave permanent scars from nonsense that was slightly in convient. It validates the ridiculous feminist tactics if we just do the same thing to them in reverse.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 02:46 AM
1

Still another sad deflection huh?? And am a liberal with a long term black live in GF who is helping her raise her black son. Your ridiculous. This isn't even a political issue, it just is what it is.. I'm sure she catches all kinda unjustified crap, but she also is apparently an attention whore who was willing to lie on her new inlaws about something very easy to debunk. It is not. Surprise they do not like her..
/r/MensRights08/01/23 12:43 AM
1

I love your sad deflection instead of a rebuttal lol.. At least I pay my dues by helping to raise a black family lol. My GF and her son will not get to play the Megan Merkle card by living life as a white woman then all the sudden deciding she is black when it behooves her to play the victim....
/r/MensRights08/01/23 12:10 AM
2

Then how come all you have is childish personal attacks and sad deflection s lmao??? Hmmmm? You act like you are not the one spouting personal attacks to avoid the fact you have no rebuttal.. My argument is not an emotional appeal, it is a math argument. It is very simple.. when you put very different things in the same box it will not only make people take the less serious more seriously. It will also make people take the more serious in fraction less seriously. If I say " he sexually assaulted…
/r/MensRights07/01/23 10:53 PM
-2

Obviously you have no rebuttal, so you lose.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 10:36 PM
1

That is a primary component of what makes you black in America... if you never had to experience that, you don't deserve to play the victim for that... But I really think she didn't even find out until sdulthiod..but maybe I'm wrong.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 08:56 PM
-16

Why have we added things like butt grabbing to SA?? So people will take it more seriously because you put it in the sane box with things like rape, right?? Don't you realize it will make people take the more serious things like rape less seriously too??
/r/MensRights07/01/23 08:24 PM
2

This is from memory, but either she didn't even f8nd our she was part black or maybe it was saying she didn't hear a thing about it until she started dating a royal.. I'll double check when I have a min.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 07:12 PM
2

That would be like my white self claiming u was black after I found out I was 2% from ancestry.com lol
/r/MensRights07/01/23 06:55 PM
6

Absolutely.... she has never had to live as bring black nor faced any discrimination like a black person in America would, but now wants to claim it like she has...
/r/MensRights07/01/23 06:53 PM
-48

OK? No..... Should it be called the same thing as a football team gang raping a cheerleader?? Absolutely not. Using really broad words is just ridiculous, especially with the stakes involved.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 06:01 PM
-45

How about we all stop pretending nonsense is sexual assault?? We can't bash chics for over hyping sexual assault allegations then do the same?!?! Using sexual assault should be reserved for the cases that could have been permanently scarring not continuing to expand it to basically everything imaginable.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 05:45 PM
4

She for sure went on Oprah and insinuated the royals wouldn't let their kid be a prince because he was " mixed race" when it was a 300 year old law that established all of that.. Plus she us like the least black person in the history of AAs... lol And my long term live in GF is Wesley snipes , raised in Memphis black.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 05:36 PM
-2

No I do not think that, but do not think it should be In the same bag with rape under the umbrella of sexual assault.. Sexual assault should only be the things that are likely to cause permanent scarring ah la rape.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 05:02 PM
1

That is not a rebuttal... In the transhood documentary that is in no way a conservative hit piece the LGBT gender affirming Dr. They go to clearly states that it is the case the RX is not intended for chdren and there are zero studies done on the long term effects. I am liberal as they come without being a shill.
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/23 04:48 PM
4

There are no puberty blockers... there is a castration medication used for it now
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/23 03:34 PM
1

I would be leary of this story.. not necessarily that a crazy person is willing to sacrifice their kid out of spite to hurt a parent or for clout, but I doubt seriously any medical professional would help her do that before the kid was ATLEAST late teens.
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/23 02:54 AM
1

I'm betting this is fake
/r/MensRights07/01/23 01:50 AM
1

I bet it would if he has a disability or something.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 01:47 AM
-1

That sounds fair, though I would be shocked if it is applied fairly.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 01:46 AM
1

Sure.. except for the double standard. Life doesn't care about fair. It only cares about what is and the whole dynamic is not changing for Dana White's @$$.... You need a figure WAY more sympathetic than him, though... maybe some guy in a wheelchair or something.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 01:43 AM
1

Yup.. which just makes him even dumber.. though obviously he did not go full force or anything.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 01:38 AM
1

Mgtow?
/r/MensRights06/01/23 08:41 PM
1

I don't know why we are skipping who broke into who's house first.... lol
/r/MensRights06/01/23 08:40 PM
5

They don't realize how cheap and accessible an escort actually is.
/r/MensRights06/01/23 06:52 PM
0

Obviously when it comes to a physical altercation with a male, yea. It is pretty flipping similar to fighting a disabled male.
/r/MensRights06/01/23 01:29 PM
-13

If someone in a wheel chair punches you and you punch the. Back your getting canceled too.
/r/MensRights06/01/23 12:09 PM
6

Get an escort... message me in private amd I'll tell you the website and rules silly.....
/r/MensRights06/01/23 01:35 AM
0

I would.. there Is a finite amount of time and effort that can go into making change, use it where it counts
/r/MensRights05/01/23 05:28 AM
-2

I don't care if the weaker sex, more likely to be attacked by rapists and robbers gets to park closer.. Never fight a battle with nothing to win , sun tzu
/r/MensRights05/01/23 03:47 AM
1

I personally consider that irrelevant. Of course it is kinda sexist, but a non-issue... I care about automatic custody to the mother and belie e all women. That matters.
/r/MensRights04/01/23 09:19 PM
1

Pearl just destroys people
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 04:14 PM
1

Your allowed to punch up, not down.
/r/MensRights04/01/23 02:00 PM
1

And crazy AF that the state has put people In jail for either aggregated assault on a police off9cer fir something that anyone with sense could tell then was literally scientifically impossible.
/r/MensRights02/01/23 06:50 PM
1

That isn't what I mean. They come in trans-dermal patches. I mean you touching skin to skin with a junkie. Like it is soooo strong even touching someone who is high on fentynal can make you OD. Which is literally impossible and a joke to any scientist ,Dr or junkie.. But people are in jail right now because of a recent trend that has pretty much faded. Cops and paramedics would go into these dark dingy trap houses for an OD or an arrest, then probably because of the media reporting this. They wo…
/r/MensRights02/01/23 01:34 PM
1

Lol the same DEA who claimed it was possible for forst responders to OD from skin to skin contact with people who have done fentynal?? Have you ever seen piles of butt naked junkies rubbing on each other to get high?? Lol
/r/MensRights02/01/23 12:51 AM
1

That and stuff changes... I watched oxys go from .50 a milligram to 1.00$ a milligram. Now they are 2.00$ a milligram. But you can't trust the media reports because they get to lie about drugs for clickbait and no one cares, for example if they report " Crack will kill you in 5 years" and they are wrong f no one will care, but if they report that "Crack will make you live 20 years longer" and they are wrong they will get roasted. Plus they ate doing the math on how powerful/cheap it is per milli…
/r/MensRights01/01/23 09:50 PM
1

That is not cutting...that is substituting. Cutting is when you add some cheap substance like baby formula to a drug. To make less into more. No one has ever done that ever. Plus I'm not at all sure fentynal is heaper than heroin. Oxy, for sure, but I don't think it is cheaper than dope..it wasn't when I was getting high.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 09:29 PM
1

In my experience, and I have been out of the game for a decade now but it was not cheaper than dope.. cheaper than oxy maybe but not H.... No one uses drugs to cut drugs lol that is an old wives tale.. you have to pay extra for that, unless they are trying to date rape drug a female or something. The point of cutting something is to make more money, and an opiates addiction will happily take fentynal instead. To drug addicts I is the stronger and cheaper the better.. Maybe a rich person might be…
/r/MensRights01/01/23 08:58 PM
1

Not really, see opiates are a crazy drug. You can build up a tolerance that would kill a dozen people, and you won't even throw up, but it leaves your system VERY quickly hence the insane withdrawals. So even just a couple days without can cut your tolerance down to a fraction of what it was. This us anecdotal for sure but I spent 5 or 6 years chasing the dragon while fentynal was around and it was almost way a tolerance thing. Either noobs, people who had cleaned up or were for Ed to detox due …
/r/MensRights01/01/23 08:08 PM
2

I saw the video when it dropped, and yes I can fault him for not talking, just like I fault female abuse victims for staying in physically abusive relationships because " but she was in love". Emotional appeals are on the thousands of years old list of logical fallacies for a reason. We need to stop putting feels over reals and put reality first.1
/r/MensRights01/01/23 06:04 PM
3

Those are the vast minority, not the average. Most opioid overdoses come after people clean up and their tolerance goes down. The. They start getting their life back together and get little money in their pocket and decide to get high one more time, but t GG ey do the same dose they were used to taking and ..... done. I also doubt many people do suicide by car, just because their is no way to be sure it does the job and will probably be very painful.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 05:52 PM
1

That was Browns fault for not telling his side of the story in 2009... That said the physically dominant party always has the option to leave the situation, because the less physical party can only leave if their attacker let's them and I think that matters.. If a guy in a wheel chair punches me, I don't have to go full bore on him. I'm still the one in control of the situation.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 06:42 AM
2

I personally think a man should do the least he has to to "win"/protect himself versus anyone who has zero chance to beat you, that said he just now told his story and chose to take the L rather than blameshift it. So it isn't a surprise everyone assumed it was more one sided. That said he went way to far Amy way you look at it.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 09:36 PM
0

The old monarchies were falling and the power vacuum left, plus the printing g press allowed for countless new ideas to become widespread that would have been squashed by the old establishment. It is human nature to only care about the things that hurt you while ignoring the things that help you.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 09:30 PM
8

If it isn't socially acceptable it cannot mainstream.. lol Now for sure their were times and places where it was "your right to do so", aka nor many people would do anything about it, but your neighbors still considered you trash for doing it, unless the infraction was considered monumental. Similar to someone who abused their pets in America before their were animal abuse laws. It was your dog to do with as you wished, but everyone who knew considered you trash for doing it.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 09:20 PM
6

A couple videos does not make something the mainstream societal opinion lol.. that is like me saying the western world agrees with the Westboro Baptist church.. Everything I have seen, even from ancient history has considered it garbage if you beat your wife, even when it was your right to do so, the rest of that society considered you garbage for doing it.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 09:05 PM
-17

Exactly... there has always been large groups of people who thought women should be equal and class and caste systems are flawed. The crazier ideas on the left are not majority opinions like the crazier ideas on the right are, because the left is a compilation of dozens of groups that all have different and often conflicting goals. That acts as a filter because group A is not going for group B's nonsense. The right is, for the most part one group with the same goals. So their craziness is fairly…
/r/MensRights31/12/22 09:01 PM
13

In what way and in what circumstances?? That could be anything... Where are these videos and is thar the mainstream opinion of that society as a whole? Muslims do not have a pope.. so a couple clerics saying x,Y or Z is not proof it is the mainstream societal opinion.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 08:47 PM
9

I don't think that is correct... you got a source??
/r/MensRights31/12/22 08:32 PM
1

Male bonding is not gonna replace female sexual attention lol
/r/MensRights31/12/22 08:18 PM
1

The only way to slow porn consumption is for men to get laid regularly. The only way to do that is sex work,but the old fashioned kind.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 08:18 PM
7

This is only because men are bigger risk takers and opiate addiction is a medical addiction , not a willpower thing.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 08:14 PM
20

Beating your wife has always been considered a garbage thing to do, even when it wasn't illegal to do so. AKA it has never been considered manly.. similar to beating up someone with a disability.. it is manly to do things that are hard to do.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 08:13 PM
-23

I'm quite sure that feminism pre-dayes Marxism lmao
/r/MensRights31/12/22 08:10 PM
96

Because destroying is always easier than building.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 08:09 PM
3

That is far more believable than theOP.
/r/MensRights26/12/22 01:06 AM
2

I’m betting it is a fake story.
/r/MensRights26/12/22 01:05 AM
-4

This is a nonsense story.. I bet it is totally fake. People are not raped by a white/black guy then claims it is the opposite race.. people cheat and then claim rape to cover up the affair.. If this ever did happen it would be for racist reasons. She thought it was more socially acceptable to be raped by a white guy.
/r/MensRights26/12/22 01:04 AM
2

I’m not big on emotional appeals and instead just look at the base math whenever possible.. plus I’m 40 and still like sex with hot 20 year olds. It is very easy and safer than you might think once you learn the rules. Just Google “escorts in (your city)”. Anyone asking for a deposit when you are coming to them assume is a fake account.
/r/MensRights22/12/22 01:38 PM
1

Learn how to do the escort thing and it takes all the pressure off finding someone RIGHT NOW. So you can take your time and be choosy.. Plus it takes away the ability for someone to use sex as a weapon.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 06:35 PM
1

A) Obviously both sexes can be emotional.. on average though women are far more emotional than men but there are always exceptions. B) Wars are not fought for feelings lol they are fought for land, resources and who gets to be in control?!?? C) if you are with someone who might kill you, they are the danger to you.. there is always the chance you could slip and break your neck , whether you stay or go. So staying with a dangerous person is compounding your risk. ESPECIALLY, for a female in the m…
/r/MensRights21/12/22 02:33 PM
1

It will depend on not allowing the wack a doodles to take center stage and professional types with good arguments making the cases.
/r/MensRights20/12/22 08:15 PM
1

She wouldn’t have to if she was the wife when they made the deposit.. her name is on the account and they are not gonna check.. it is your job to call and have the sample destroyed after you divorce if you know you set up the account.
/r/MensRights20/12/22 08:03 PM
1

If she is the one who logged it in then yea… the sperm bank is not gonna spend the time and money to see if your still married lol
/r/MensRights20/12/22 08:01 PM
1

I spend an hour or 2 day talking to my college age daughter on phone who is in her second year of nursing school at a private liberal arts college.. we have a wonderful relationship and she has been a flawless kid… She has been so good I have spent her whole life waiting for her to break bad because she was so perfect and never did.. How many college age women spend an hour plus a day talking to their father on the phone?!?? Almost none… I’m 41 with a very attractive 25 year old live in girlfrie…
/r/MensRights19/12/22 01:08 AM
1

Nah I’m just not a weak B who needs to exaggerate what kind of person I am, just like I’m not a weak Who needs to threaten random people online because I don’t have a rebuttal… 90k a year is not a small paycheck… if I was lying I would go higher.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 10:29 PM
1

Because I get paid 90k a year to do it and to be fair, no one else is willing to pay me 90k a year to do anything.. which puts me in the top 20% of earners if not higher… but I personally love the exercise and like living life in “fresh out of prison shape.” So does my very attractive 25 year old GF. Lol When you stop exercising you fall apart physically and Father Time kicks your @$$. Legitimate tough guys don’t play keyboard warrior online lol.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 10:25 PM
1

Such a tough guy , but you get beat up by a woman on a regular basis… you made my day cupcake. I’ll be giggling to myself all day.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 07:29 PM
1

BWAHAHAHAHA A KEYBOARD WARRIOR HUH!! I swing a sledgehammer for 6, 12 hour days a week doing extremes sport construction... if your not special forces or a trained UFC fighter you lose.. and in my experience only weak Bs play keyboard warrior.. Weak Bs who don’t have a rebuttal. 😘
/r/MensRights18/12/22 07:19 PM
0

Oh so can I play that same card after I murder my GF?? “Well mentally I didn’t have the ability not to murder my GF because she was verbally abusive”.. What about “I didn’t have the mental ability not to rob the person because I was detoxing off dope and I needed my fix”.??? That is why putting feels over reals is ridiculous.. emotions are not logical nor objective.. the world doesn’t care how anyone feels about anything. It only cares about what the reality is and pretending otherwise is not on…
/r/MensRights18/12/22 03:58 AM
-1

No your putting feels over reals which is a very female thing to do.
/r/MensRights17/12/22 03:00 PM
1

He is outstanding.
/r/MensRights17/12/22 01:35 PM
0

Garbage.. that is a sad deflection. Maybe I believe I cannot live without murdering my ex.. that is not a justification to murder my ex.. Emotions are not logical nor objective and pretending they are is both ridiculous and guaranteed to have a negative result. All of society should have a expectation the person leaves or it will never stop.
/r/MensRights17/12/22 01:34 PM
2

If there is video it is going to be self defense.. should police officers always assume the male was the aggressor?? Absolutely not.. but it is not the same thing when a 110lb woman takes a swing and when a 250lb man does.. that is ignoring the reals over feel, which is the entire problem with DV advocacy in the first place. We should be removing the feels from female DV advocacy, not adding the feels to Mens DV advocacy. There is never a justification to stay with an abusive partner no matter w…
/r/MensRights15/12/22 04:19 PM
1

I have been involved in abusive relationships and have never once laid my hands on a woman or chid in anger.. I have also personally been part of 2 failed interventions where a female was legit getting beat up and the family and friends where just shoveling resources and protection at them to get them to leave and they wouldn’t.. I don’t go in for people putting their feels over reals.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:34 PM
-1

No it isn’t .. self defense is always legal. If she lies and the state believes her that could happen with any thing. The “ it is ok she/he stayed because they love bombed them” is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:30 PM
0

Unless he left?!! Just like a female in an abusive relationship should’ve expected to leave.. it is ridiculous to play into the whole “ but he/she loves them so it is ok they stayed narrative. If there is a kid that is even more reason to leave and set up an alternative place for the kid to be?!?!? There is no justification to stay with an abuser longer than it takes to sneak away.. period, and it is insanity to pretend otherwise.. “Well I’m gonna let my kid learn it is ok to abuse them or be ab…
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:27 PM
1

That changes everything.. if she has a weapon then you lose your agency and have every right to treat her like a man. Imho
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:25 PM
1

Fair enough
/r/MensRights13/12/22 04:01 AM
1

Hell no?!?! It is not a normal perjury and should be it’s own category ?!! That is like saying a rape is really just a normal assault.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:58 AM
2

But if the false allegations is worse than being raped, shouldn’t it have a bigger penalty?? Wouldn’t an attempted false allegation that didn’t stick be the equivalent of an attempted rape?
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:54 AM
1

That is what was being discussed lol.. what is the appropriate punishment.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:51 AM
1

Obviously… but you were saying it wouldn’t be ok to put false accusers on a sex offender registry because of the chance a rapist might rape them because they have zero credibility.. My point is the false allegation is worse…. Assuming it sticks of course.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:50 AM
1

Because there is no scenario where everyone decides to stop raping and falsely accusing people lol..
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:47 AM
2

A) I should have specified “the consequences of a false rape conviction would destroy you psychologically “. B) sex offenders are instantly target in prison by everyone.. any chance almost any prisoner gets you will be beaten, raped or murdered. So your prison sentence will be TERRIBLE.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:46 AM
2

You think people falsely accused don’t commit suicide? You think the consequences of a rape conviction will not destroy you psychologically?? What about the rapes, beatings and such they will face for being a rapist in jail?? Assuming the false allegation sticks it is worse in every way… If anyone convicted of rape had the option of being raped and getting to walk free and not be a sex offender and such , almost everyone takes the deal.. male or female.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:39 AM
2

My point is that a false allegation that sticks is worse than what the potential rape victim endured… no one thinks about it, but it is.. That is like saying we shouldn’t prosecute rapists because they might get raped in prison.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:33 AM
1

Obviously.. but that is not an option that is on the table.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:31 AM
2

Obviously both are terrible, but assuming the allegation sticks, it is worse than being raped… and rape is almost as terrible as it gets. But course we should compare the consequences of the false allegation to the consequences of being a rape victim to decide how to handle the situation.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:29 AM
3

What is worse?? Being raped or being falsely accused, losing everything, spending years in a concrete box as a rapist (they do not have it easy in jail) the. Being on the sex offended list and everyone thinking your a rapist FOREVER??? I’ll take being raped any day.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:20 AM
1

Here is the really crazy part… according to the FBI 8-10 of reported rapes are fake allegations!! That is crazy!! That dwarfs all other crimes when it comes to false allegations.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:16 AM
3

I’m not sure it is a total stretch, but that is the price you pay for falsely accusing people imho.. actions have consequences.. do things that ruin your credibility, and guess what?? You lose your credibility.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:15 AM
1

That is the same logic used not to penalize false accusers..” but what if it scares off real victims.” As a society we have decided it is worse to jail an innocent than let a guilty person go free.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:10 AM
1

Awesome!! It should be almost as big a crime as rape or DV…
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:08 AM
-3

Call me crazy , and it is not ok, but I don’t think the law or society should get involved unless someone loses their agency.. If my 110lb gf attacks me I can shove her away and leave the situation whenever I want. If I attack her she can only leave if I let her.. We shouldn’t pretend it is ok to stay with someone who is physically abusive male or female.. and that is kinda what we are saying by playing into the DV victim narrative where they pretend it is not their fault they stayed… The abuse …
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:07 AM
1

Probably because I’ve been pimping out your mother… it is a crappy thing to do but she will take on all callers and I need the money… tell her I’ve got a gangbang set up later for her and your sister. 😘
/r/MensRights13/12/22 02:36 AM
1

Lol says the guy who has no rebuttal and instead had to go with a sad deflection and personal attack..😘
/r/MensRights12/12/22 11:09 PM
0

Suuuurrreee… Men are not attracted to beauty, youth , fertility and submissiveness and women are not attracted to providers,attention, height, status and wealth…. it is just a coincidence all the wealthy go for young beautiful women and do not care if they have wealth or status, and that women flock to celebrities and such…. Your hilarious
/r/MensRights03/12/22 02:55 PM
-1

Your forgetting that women get their relationship value for free and men have to earn theirs. We have to create our value they are just to protect their value, so who has the better deal again?!? Of course I can get women my age lol… they have less and less options as they get older and if you make enough to afford a stay at home wife/gf. Then you don’t care what she makes.. in fact the more she makes the less likely she is to help where you need it.. if I want her to go on a business trip with …
/r/MensRights03/12/22 04:43 AM
1

It is working for now lol. My GF is in her early 20s. Lol
/r/MensRights02/12/22 01:10 PM
1

Because they get less valuable as they age and you get more valuable as you gain wealth and status, but if your being honest then it is her bad.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 07:38 PM
1

Ditto
/r/MensRights30/11/22 08:11 PM
-1

Suuuurrrrreeee……
/r/MensRights30/11/22 02:40 PM
0

If you were married they don’t dna test you without asking.
/r/MensRights30/11/22 12:02 PM
-4

I don’t think it is legally rape, so it is irrelevant.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 07:37 PM
5

It isn’t rape..it should be illegal, but not rape. Make a new charge.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 07:26 PM
5

Idk about that… I was told there is no child support without a dna test when I offered to skip it during my own custody stuff.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 07:26 PM
1

No…. It is something terrible, but it is not rape… just like if you refuse to pay an escort after sex it doesn’t magically become rape.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 07:23 PM
1

If you want it to work it usually does.. If she is the bread winner long term it will usually turn to resentment and her feeling like she settled. Men are in general perfectly ok with paying the bills long term without ever losing respect for the stay at home mom.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 08:40 PM
1

Before recoded history it became a control mechanism, if it ever wasn’t. Well who was it made to control if it predates the haves vs. have nots?
/r/MensRights23/11/22 08:38 PM
1

Maybe but at some point they started becoming a control mechanism.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 08:35 PM
1

There are always exceptions.. we all know a couple where the wife should clearly be running things, but those are exceptions.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 08:10 PM
1

Religion is far older and evolved a country Ike by the time of Abraham.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 08:08 PM
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Of course it is to control people but it predates most of civilization.. can’t be the elites controlling the peasants before there are elites and peasants. So if it was created before civilization. Who was it meant to control?? Their emotional wives? Maybe.. honestly I am spitballing this is not my pet theory lol.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 08:08 PM
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Not at all. Do most women operate on emotion?? Yes. And emotions logical? Yes… Was religion created to keep people in line?? Yes. Religion is also very old.. predating civilization
/r/MensRights23/11/22 07:27 PM
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