Deconstructing RP claims: Is the double standard society has for promiscuity fair??

fathergoose77 · 2023-02-13T21:05:00+00:00

Your points A, B, and C are not factual. They are merely redpill talking points.

You keep posting and making comments in bad faith.

This is not a debate sub. This is not purplepill debate.

What are you trying to get out of posting and commenting on this sub so much?

leandrot · 2023-02-13T19:53:36+00:00

A) It's not hard to be promiscous as a man and redpillers themselves admit to that when they demonize single mothers. They only frame their selectivity as a right and women's as a problem.

B) These kind of claims have zero evidence to back them up and many that refute them. Monogamy is not biological and in a wild environment, it's actually detrimental to survival in many ways (like reducing genetical variability). Poligyny is even less natural, as it leads inevitably to most of the men being sexless and sexless men have more violent tendencies.

C) There are women with less standards (once again, like the demonized single mothers) and men with more. The logic is also strange, I think someone who has 12 requirements met by 90% of people should be less forgiving than someone with 3 requirements held by the top 0.001% of the population each.

xvszero · 2023-02-13T22:21:43+00:00

What is your debunk of the information you presented? I mean it sounds like sheer gibberish that doesn't even warrant much thought but how would you debunk it?

HappyRainbowSparkle · 2023-02-13T23:15:14+00:00

Do you have a source for these claims? What's wrong with being promiscuous if you don't want kids?

anthonyrecenello · 2023-02-13T23:31:45+00:00

So here’s the big thing that people don’t think about…

WHO GIVES A SHIT.

Red pill is about hating women, so they need reasons to keep them controlled.

But guess what… if you don’t hate women, you don’t want to control them… then you are HAPPY for them to live their lives the way they want.

If you don’t hate women, you would not gaf who they had sex with.

It has nothing to do with anything.

“But biologically…” Shut the fuck up.

I literally don’t care about body count because it has nothing to do with me…. UNLESS my confidence is based on my control of another person.

What red pillers don’t realize is that everything they teach is just about leveraging your insecurities and low self esteem.

PutsWomenOnPedestal · 2023-02-14T04:28:28+00:00

the double standard regarding “body count”/ promiscuity is fair because

What does "fair" mean here? Why does the evo psych explanation of something make it fair? Evolution deals with maximizing the frequency of genes in a population. It has nothing to do with values of fairness. In fact, things that might potentially maximize genes in an evolutionary sense are very unfair in terms of humanitarian values.

A) it is harder for the male to be promiscuous because he doesn't contribute much in terms of parental investment compared to the female who has to gestate offspring, risk death during childbirth & is limited to a few children. The male contributes nothing but sperm, which is cheap. So, why is it "fair" for men's promiscuity to be reviled less than women's ? An explanation for why something is the way it is doesn't make it fair.

B) I agree it is plausible that men are programmed to be turned off by promiscuity in a potential mate (unlike the rest of this sub, I don't believe it is just "male insecurity') . But why wouldn't women be programmed similarly? A promiscuous mate with many commitments is less likely to feed her kids. Keep in mind that it isn't sufficient for a woman just to birth kids, they need to survive to pass on her genes. Deadbeat dads aren't an evolutionary advantage that you seem to think. The exception is if the man is an emperor with a harem, but that is a much later stage in human societal evolution. The vast majority of the 200,000 years of existence of our species did not involve harems by wealthy kings.

C) Not sure what you are trying to say.

Edit: I come from south Asia. While women are held to a higher standard than men, even male promiscuity is not "glorified". No middle-class father will agree to his daughter's marriage to a known playboy. The point is, not all patriarchal cultures glorify male promiscuity. Even if they turned a blind eye in the past, that is not the case today, which implies this is more a cultural than a biological thing.

anthonyrecenello · 2023-02-13T23:27:05+00:00

Loving these comments 🤘🏻

Title	Deconstructing RP claims: Is the double standard society has for promiscuity fair??
Author	ArtemisMinion1
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Comments	11
Date	February 13, 2023 7:16 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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