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BaconMeTimbers/r/seduction18/02/18 09:23 PM
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BaconMeTimbers/r/seduction14/10/16 09:50 PM
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This is true to a sense, if you’re a massive fuck boy idiot doing spam approaches without social awareness. But I can tell you multiple times in my experience, that another girl seeing you get rejected had no negative effect on her perception of you and in fact I got approached in a bar immediately after gathering the balls to try and hit on the most attractive girl there. They respect that you go after what they want, it’s attractive to women to see that.
/r/seduction25/10/20 03:20 AM
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Bro I’m sure you’re not that bad. Just keep in mind that they feel what you feel, so if YOU think you’re ugly af, THEY’LL think the same thing. You need to change your attitude, cause even if you really are dumb and ugly at least you can have a maybe a sense of humor about it or not give af about it so that they do the same.. But I have a feeling you’re not that bad, guys tend to overestimate how ugly they are. Especially if you take that guy, then dress him right and get him a nice haircut, and…
/r/seduction20/12/19 04:19 AM
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This is inspiring, because it shows you your current “number”. So your number is 2 dates per 100 girls, now it’s your job to improve your game until you’re averaging 3 per 100, then 4 dates/100, then more... Tom Torrero, top day gamer, gets a ratio of about 6-7 dates per 100 approaches, and about half of those turn to lays. So as you can see even “top puas” need to put in the numbers. But if you’re approaching 100 girls per month as tom, that means you’ll be having sex with about one new girl pe…
/r/seduction20/12/19 04:10 AM
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Wrong. If she sees you’re nervous and you approached anyway she sees you have balls and she’ll respect that. Not only that, and this has happened literally every time I approached a girl I was really scared to approach, when she usually rejects me, I’ll have other girls at the bar approach ME afterwards. Like they see what you did and respect it so much they have to talk to you. You need to quit being such a keyboard jockey and get out and approach.
/r/seduction20/12/19 03:53 AM
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You know how you get feedback for openers? By using your opener, 10s of times, and draw experience from those opens. But to break it down and give my own 2 cents.. “I’ve only got a moment to talk” False time constraint you’re using here, which is good, but I’d agree with the other poster that this needs dropped or changed. Use this if you’re stopping a girl on the street or something and you need to show you realize she’s busy, but I’d almost use “Heyy, quick question, but...” then go into it. N…
/r/seduction09/12/19 02:57 AM
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Good job. It sounds like you’re already starting to do step/day 1 of this newbie assignment: https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/newbie-assignment.34/ Don’t listen to the haters that are diminishing this proaction or saying it’s not enough. It’s plenty, for a start.
/r/seduction07/12/19 10:02 PM
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I was a late bloomer as well, so these points have all worked wonders for me. I’ll keep it simple for you. 1)Learn to “speak your truth”. Practice with this. A lot of the times we hide who we really are behind humor or a fake persona of us so people will like you. Well, people will like and respect you a lot more if you overcome any fears and obstacles in the way to speaking your truth, or at the least not lie. 2) Lift weights to get muscle, keto and intermittent fasting to lost your fat. Get do…
/r/seduction04/08/19 12:58 PM
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It can still be accessed thru web archive, but it’s sad that this censorship is taking place. And this is coming from someone whom disagrees with a lot of red pill ideology, but that should be tackled with debate, never censorship. Source of commandments for those interested: https://web.archive.org/web/20190430031253/https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/
/r/becomeaman13/05/19 03:27 AM
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Malls, grocery stores, bookstores, parks... You’re not going to learn night game in the burbs, so learn day game.
/r/seduction09/04/19 02:18 AM
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Girls Chase ebook 60 years of Challenge ebook bundle Models by Mark Manson The book of pook pdf These are all pretty straight forward, although I’m not totally sure what you mean by ridiculous. They work if you put in the work.
/r/seduction18/03/19 05:54 PM
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“Say fucking Hi, Jesus! It's not that hard.” Exactly, it’s not that hard.
/r/seduction18/03/19 05:47 PM
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No women on earth interested in you today? Not likely, but possible. No women interested in you at your highest potential? No way. Solution: Build yourself to reach your potential
/r/seduction05/03/19 08:58 PM
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^
/r/seduction03/03/19 12:08 AM
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You’re missing a golden opportunity by not hanging out with this guy. Lift with him and make it a priority. Learn from him, as much as you can, while you can. Women will come as a result.
/r/seduction25/02/19 02:10 AM
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Real talk right here.
/r/seduction25/02/19 02:09 AM
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From a Online Dating/Relationship guru Blackdragon: “The Count of Monte Cristo The ultimate rags-to-riches story, a guy going from dark dungeons to ultra-wealthy Count, bent on goodwill towards his friends and dark vengeance for his enemies. He’s on the short list of true literary Alpha males. Strong, intelligent, crafty, well-read, cool and calm with zero drama, business savvy, resourceful, goal-oriented, world-traveler, passionate, motivated, masculine. Oh, did I mention his girlfriend is 18 w…
/r/seduction18/02/19 04:53 PM
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Yea I’d guess you’re still not as vulnerable in certain circumstances as you think you are, because I was the same way in thinking I was authentic 4-5 years ago, but looking back I really wasn’t. Although idk I could be wrong, it’s difficult to “diagnose” over the internet.
/r/seduction05/02/19 03:08 PM
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From what I can gather with your post: you’re not needy, you’re not ugly, you’re not shy. I know what it is... you’re not vulnerable. You scared to show your true self unapologetically. You hide behind a “persona” or “mask”. Instead, open up and be true with your intentions.
/r/seduction05/02/19 01:30 AM
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This requires way too many things to know about you before a recommendation can be made. What are your struggling with currently? What are your goals? What skill level are you at right now? But let’s say you’re a basic beginner with no prior knowledge base: Start with the book “The Game” that gives more of a story than just a “how-to”, and should give you an idea of what “game” looks like, with a zero to hero story Then, read “the 3% man” which will give good overviews to game and is a great boo…
/r/seduction05/02/19 01:18 AM
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What? This advice is terrible and keyboard jockey extreme. Nothing wrong with friend zoning a girl but ALL girls? lol no
/r/seduction05/02/19 12:51 AM
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Systembytodd.com
/r/seduction31/01/19 06:45 PM
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Nice guys are also putting on fronts of being nice to subtly manipulate people into treating them the same way. Then build resentment when they don’t. They don’t fully express themselves to never “rock the boat” and have high levels of outcome dependence. No, the advice is a good one. To be fully, and unapologetically, “you”.
/r/seduction18/12/18 01:27 PM
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Take the time to unload with your bros and work thru your insecure thoughts with them so you don’t feel the need to reveal every insecurity with a girl your with. But it’s probably best to think of vulnerability as being unapologetically “you” (which is actually very masculine when you think about it) vs making others an emotional tampon. If you want more information from Mark Manson, he talks more about it here: https://markmanson.net/vulnerability Specifically the part about “Emotional Vomit” …
/r/seduction03/12/18 09:43 PM
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Excerpt from Mark Manson’s book “Models”: ~The Investment Paradox~ Finally, the true power of vulnerability is that it resolves the investment paradox. The investment paradox, as mentioned in the previous chapters, is the apparent conflict between the two aspects of female attraction. Women are attracted to men who are of higher status than themselves (or in our terms, display more True Confidence). They are also aroused by men who desire them. The paradox is that typically, if a man shows desir…
/r/seduction02/12/18 09:45 PM
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https://www.girlschase.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=34
/r/seduction23/11/18 01:46 PM
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You need to develop both your inner game and outer game. If you just do outer game then yea she’s gonna see the real you after awhile then leave. Inner game brings forth the best “you” so she’ll stay. But you still need outer game to bring them to bed, you just won’t keep them because of what you’re saying. Read Models for the inner game stuff, Mark Manson brings up all the points you bring up.
/r/seduction23/11/18 01:32 PM
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60 years of challenge, his e-books
/r/seduction23/11/18 01:26 PM
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“Well guess we can’t date then, so don’t get any ideas!” It was a shit test not an iod. You failed the test
/r/seduction23/11/18 01:24 PM
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Imagine looking at a juicy steak in two different scenarios: 1) After a thanksgiving meal 2) After not eating anything for a few days In the first scenario you may appreciate the steak, love the sear and perfect medium rare cook of it, think it smells good, etc. But in the second scenario you have a primal desire for that steak. And no matter how many affirmations you tell yourself that you’re “hungry”, this feeling of true hunger can’t be truly replicated in scenario 1 Women want that primal de…
/r/seduction23/11/18 12:41 PM
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Quit porn. Jerk it only once a week
/r/seduction22/11/18 11:52 PM
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This is a tough challenge. I’ve gotten to day 5 before I gave up, but even getting to day five improved my confidence like crazy. Good luck
/r/seduction29/08/18 01:29 PM
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Especially the ones where they helped out that one guy from zero to hero (or at least zero to a five)
/r/seduction27/08/18 06:05 PM
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One of the first books Mark Manson recommends in the back of Models, is no more mr nice guy. So yea, they line up really well together, they only seem opposite because of your misunderstanding of the concepts
/r/seduction18/06/18 02:42 PM
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I understand you're frustrated, but seriously, you should focus on one MAYBE two habit changes at a time. Changing them all at once may work for a week or two, but then you'll slip at one, then all. Maybe start with just gym and no porn. Learn as much as you can about yourself JUST FROM THESE TWO. Then, after consistently doing these for 66 days (about the time to change a habit) add another one/two. You might be impatient, but this would have you changing 7-12 habits in a year! That's huge! So …
/r/seduction15/06/18 01:46 PM
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"You are...on Tuesdays"
/r/seduction25/05/18 09:59 PM
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Maybe set it up better. "Hey, my buddy thinks my profile sucks but I think he's full of it. You seem like you have good taste, can I get your honest opinion on this?"
/r/seduction04/05/18 09:43 PM
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100% this. I've been in your shoes before OP and I was also a late bloomer (late twenties for me). I used to seriously be afraid of success with women and thought I was crazy. But you can't talk yourself out of this mindset. What you need to do is slowly but steadily gain more experience (aka make progress but don't burn yourself out) until one day you realize you don't have those feelings or belief structures anymore. Don't worry, things may get uncomfortable at times, but you won't die or anyt…
/r/seduction26/04/18 11:43 PM
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http://www.girlschase.com/content/i-cant-get-girls-because-girls-only-want-blank
/r/seduction24/04/18 05:35 PM
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I had to look that one up, but yea it doesn't seem like that big a deal. If anything it makes your face more manly.
/r/seduction24/04/18 12:09 PM
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Unless you have some genetic abnormality you too can achieve a nice face with: a nice haircut (and maybe a beard), a healthy bodyfat (preferably under 20, ideally under 15), and be sure to smile and make eye contact with people ("he has kind eyes!") Congrats! You now have a nice face! I know it sounds like I'm being facetious but I'm not. That's all it takes.
/r/seduction24/04/18 11:43 AM
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Quit jerking off. You'll literally drip with sex appeal after awhile
/r/seduction06/04/18 12:30 AM
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Yes it'll work, but it takes a LOT of work and practice to implement towards results. I recommend the 3 percent man first, until your intermediate, then to can download and read magic bullets for streamlined M.M. to reach an advanced level
/r/seduction03/04/18 04:29 AM
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I've heard of people using this blue pill style of rejecting someone before, but I don't agree with it. I think it fucks with your subconscious to have a low quality chick reject you, even if you made her reject you on purpose. I'd rather my rejecting come from a masculine core, and just politely say I'm not interested and be firm about it. It makes me feel better doing it this way
/r/TheRedPill26/03/18 03:15 PM
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It's a numbers game only in the sense that you need to put in the numbers to get laid within your success percentage. Say on average, 1 out of 10 girls you approach end up sleeping with you, then you need to put in the numbers to get laid with ten percent of the women. Then in time this percentage increases as skills improve.
/r/seduction10/03/18 08:00 PM
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Yea I second this. 3% Man to start you off, and also make sure to take SERIOUS action by socializing with everyone while making strong eye contact. This will bring you to your 7 and a group of friends within a year or two at the most if you put in the work. Then if you want a 10, then you can dive into serious pua, like RSD or Mystery Method
/r/seduction09/03/18 10:25 PM
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I've been there man. You can get past it, but you need to start opening up Check out this ted talk, and seriously consider reading her books as well: https://youtu.be/iCvmsMzlF7o
/r/seduction07/03/18 12:18 PM
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Prevent you from getting a hard on, for one
/r/seduction22/02/18 09:07 PM
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Blackdragonblog.com This guy owns three businesses and manages to slay with hot women in his life. You just need to stop making excuses for yourself and you can do anything you put your mind to. But you need to put your mind in a positive place NOW. Because if you think it's too late for you, then this'll become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/seduction22/02/18 09:06 PM
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It worked in those situations too of course, but MM was best when he was working a room or group. Because what happens when you go out to a club or bar? The girl tends to be in a group of friends and is probably best to learn how to deal with that. Check out the old VH1 show "The Pick Up Artist" to give you an light hearted idea of what MM looks like. If you like what you see, you can dive into the deep end by checking out "Mystery Method Revelation" vids (torrent it cough). Also, if you want to…
/r/seduction22/02/18 02:39 PM
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No, he'd work a room to attract women and in that room become high status. Such as attract a girl, take her by the arm as a pivot to use social proof on a hotter girl, disqualify her with a neg then throw in a genuine compliment to reel her back in...etc, etc, etc. It can get technical, but once you get good at the fundamentals to can become a god a sleeping with hot women. Keeping them around however requires the concrete value you speak of, but a lot of this also just comes down to good inner …
/r/seduction21/02/18 06:34 AM
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My girlfriend currently does things like "shopping with my bf" and putting snap filters in my face on social media. I can attest to this
/r/seduction19/02/18 04:09 AM
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Well, I agree you can't learn thru ONLY books, but experimentation plus reading has always helped me in life. Hell it's helped me learn game, so why couldn't a sex book or two do the same? But I totally agree with you that there is nothing that could replace true experience, in sex and in any endeavor
/r/seduction19/02/18 12:32 AM
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Look into logotherapy and it's theory on sexual dysfunction.
/r/seduction18/02/18 09:28 PM
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"Haha, yea, but I suck in STYLE" proceed dance dorkier But really though, I think most responses to shit tests depend on the attitude they're coming from, not so much what is said
/r/seduction16/02/18 12:57 AM
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1) Limit seeing the girl to once a week; 2) Feel free to text but don't over text and have big long conversions (save those for when you see her I'm person) 3) See at least two girls at once
/r/seduction07/02/18 02:28 AM
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You need to work on inner game. Badly. You've proven to yourself that you have the skills to get really good at outer game, but that's just that. A skill set. Inner game is what changes who you are which is what you seem to want. First of all, quit being sooo fucking hard on yourself. You need to start treating yourself like you would a good friend. Give yourself props, even in the smallest of victories. The thoughts and beliefs you have about yourself are very powerful, so if you keep calling y…
/r/seduction06/02/18 09:23 AM
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http://www.girlschase.com/content/sexual-economics-lover-and-provider
/r/seduction29/01/18 02:47 AM
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Frame is king. If you believe it doesn't matter she'll believe it too.
/r/seduction24/01/18 10:23 PM
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I understand what you mean, and it's true to an extent. Some girls will love a great bold approach of picking a girl up spinning her around then making out with her, while that same approach will scare the hell out of another girl. But it's not about getting every girl, it's about getting your type of girl (or girls). I think you're probably getting bogged down with listening to a million different methods, when you should be out on the field and learning from the feedback you get. Google "The N…
/r/seduction24/01/18 10:07 PM
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It took a ton of introspection, getting constant feedback from people, and being brutally honest with myself and what my sticking points are that I should be working on. Some of the biggest inner game plateaus I've broken through have been learning to love myself, learning to let go, and becoming more outcome independent. Outer game plateaus being that I'm much much smoother at escalating and opening than I've ever been. I'm still always improving myself and personally I still feel I have a long…
/r/seduction24/01/18 09:33 PM
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I can personally say from now dating someone out of my league and previous successes, this stuff works. What's not mentioned is how much work it takes to make meaningful and impactful change. But maybe I don't understand the question. Not sure what you mean by "set method"
/r/seduction24/01/18 02:44 PM
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Tacos. Bitches love tacos
/r/seduction02/01/18 02:38 AM
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I did it. I made it to about day five, and I hear that most don't make it past day seven. Was it still worth it? Absolutely. It was one of the main sparks in my life that greatly reduced my approach anxiety.
/r/seduction20/12/17 04:37 AM
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I think you can attack this in a three pronged approach, for short term, medium term, and for long term to help with flakes and dates. In the short term, practice leading these girls to different bars and clubs. Even bring her friends along if you have to. And maybe there's a late night food spot around you that you can practice bringing girls to at the end of the night. It's something I'm sure you heard of, but bringing girls to different venues gives the impression that they've known you a lot…
/r/seduction15/12/17 03:47 PM
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Forget about makeouts, only your ego will tell you that's important. Forget about trying to bang tons of hot girls, you can't even bang one girl currently. Forget about same day lays and all that other stuff, at least for now. Here's the simplest path to get laid: open girls » get girls number » get date with girl » get laid It's how most people get laid in western culture, even to those oblivious of seduction techniques, so it shouldn't be too difficult to do this after putting in the numbers. …
/r/seduction15/12/17 05:00 AM
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Yourbrainonporn.com
/r/seduction13/12/17 05:17 AM
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Your lines suck everywhere
/r/seduction13/12/17 05:15 AM
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That message he replied with gave me cancer
/r/TheRedPill06/12/17 03:39 AM
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The "lock-in" is after sleeping with them twice. Be causal, take it slow, be less invested than she is most of the time, and she'll naturally become attached to you as you hang out more often. I have a girl now that's only now showing strong affection to me after almost a year of sleeping with her and chilling
/r/seduction06/12/17 02:47 AM
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Here's a website started by a influential figure in the community (blackdragon) but written by and for women: http://girls-with-game.com
/r/seduction30/11/17 03:53 AM
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He's seeing the one girl that's 15 years younger than him. She's hopefully at least 18 so he's at least 33. But being 31 myself, anyone under 23 annoys the hell outta me, so if he feels the same I'd guess he's 38. Just a guess.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/17 02:26 AM
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Well there's your problem right there. Love is connection. Love for your friends, love for your family, and love for the women you enjoy. You're not going to go far by thinking love isn't a part of the equation. It's the main part. We're human so we connect, and we connect thru love. You're also putting up emotional armor the more "rejections" you get, thus stifling your progress more, so you put up even more emotional armor, and it spirals out of control. Now you've put on so much armor that ye…
/r/seduction10/11/17 05:20 AM
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Don't do a three way. You literally said the one friend gets jealous. If you go for both at the same time you'll get none
/r/seduction02/11/17 06:46 PM
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No more mr nice guy is referenced a lot in models, so it'd actually read that one first. Then models. Then get it into the field to learn, because you can't learn it all from books.
/r/seduction02/11/17 06:42 PM
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Well, she set up hoop for you to jump thru and you did it. You failed her shit test. But yea I still agree with you overall, online game sucks
/r/seduction27/10/17 12:15 AM
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Bro...you are thinking about a girl you just met WAY too much. You're acting super needy which is driving away all the girls you meet. Here are a couple resources that have personally helped myself with this issue: http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2012/03/11/nine-steps-to-avoid-neediness-and-oneitis/ http://www.francoseduction.com/neediness-management-2/
/r/seduction20/10/17 01:30 PM
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Sounds redundant to me. Discipline breeds confidence, so discipline is all you need. If you're afraid of something like it's mentioned in the article, you need the discipline to push yourself into doing it anyway. Which is exactly what discipline is: doing something even when you don't want to. Discipline = Freedom , no need to make it more complicated than that
/r/becomeaman27/09/17 03:26 PM
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I get what your saying, but who's to say your experience is the majority as opposed to mine? Yea I agree he shouldn't say that EVERYONE should limit porn/masturbation, but one should at least try it for themselves for a limited amount of time, and see if it works for them. Who knows, it may be a big bottleneck for others as it was for myself
/r/seduction20/09/17 06:08 PM
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Nahh dude, don't knock it till you try it
/r/seduction19/09/17 09:12 PM
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Seriously OP, read the fucking book before commenting on its uselessness
/r/seduction29/08/17 07:58 PM
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That's why I recommend Models. It's very anti pua in its message and show how to be attractive by being yourself. I still recommend reading it and implementing it's ideas, but it's up to you
/r/seduction29/08/17 07:35 PM
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Why?
/r/seduction29/08/17 06:13 PM
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Don't do it. Then you'll have the internal belief that you can only get laid if you pay for it. Read models by Mark Manson and also maybe some of the books he suggests in the back of the book. Then, take action. With each implemented success will gain you additional confidence. Sex will naturally follow soon after. I think you'll be surprised how little you have to tweak about yourself to start getting laid, and maybe at that point, you'll also realize that the gift you'd given yourself is also …
/r/seduction29/08/17 04:41 PM
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Totally disagree, it depends how it's said. If it's said as if you're shrugging, then it sounds genuine and it's totally cool. However, if it's said with even a hint of saltiness, then yea I agree, it's said thru the ego
/r/TheRedPill17/08/17 09:37 PM
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http://www.girlschase.com/content/how-much-do-looks-matter-romantic-success
/r/seduction14/07/17 03:02 PM
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My two favorite articles on not being too attached/needy/oneitis-y: http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2012/03/11/nine-steps-to-avoid-neediness-and-oneitis/ http://www.francoseduction.com/neediness-management-2/
/r/seduction14/07/17 01:34 PM
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Obligatory link for people not wanting to cold approach: http://www.girlschase.com/content/why-cold-approach-works-better-anything-else
/r/seduction14/07/17 01:31 PM
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Like I said, it's likely because your not smiling. But really who cares about the eye contact thing..just gooo approooach
/r/seduction16/06/17 10:00 PM
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Yea but have you done it while smiling? I bet you don't even know if you are smiling or not when doing this exercise, which tells me that you weren't. And if they're still not looking you in the eye, then start approaching instead. And let me stress this: it's not how you look that's the problem. It has to be SOMETHING that you're doing instead and you just need to find it and change it. No one said this shit was easy. But if you're willing to put in the effort, you really can get very attractiv…
/r/seduction16/06/17 09:47 PM
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Yea dude you look fine. My guess? You're a bigger dude which can be intimidating, so you should be smiling more (like you are in your photo). My guess is that you get overly anxious when you're thinking of approaching, you don't smile, and then it scares them away..hence the vibes your feeling Try this. Walk around a busy mall or something and try making eye contact with anyone that'll do it with you (with everyone, not just attractive girls). Do it while smiling, then do it while not smiling. A…
/r/seduction16/06/17 09:11 PM
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Dude your face is probably fine. Stop making excuses and start approaching. Start with: "Hi, how's your day going?" And take it from there
/r/seduction16/06/17 07:51 PM
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The ebooks from '60 years of challenge' are some of my favorite game books
/r/seduction13/06/17 05:39 PM
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http://www.girlschase.com/content/why-cold-approach-works-better-anything-else Read that, I'll wait.... Done? Good Now keep in mind you'll still have the belief that cold approach is wrong, won't work, etc. You have a limiting belief, and the ONLY way of displacing this belief it's to go approach to prove it to your brain that this stuff works. Find someone irl that will help you do it if you must, but it's really the only way forward. So your only options are to either face your fears and appro…
/r/seduction09/06/17 06:22 PM
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Haven't heard of the day game guys, but I second looking into blackdragonblog.com and Mark Manson (his book called Models). Mark Manson is great for inner game. Blackdragon is the king at managing multiple relationships at once Other resources: Yareallyarchive.com (he's no longer active, but he can break down a field report like no one I've ever seen. He's also a huge fan of rsd teachings, so things line up well in that regard. It's a gold mine in those archives, especially the interactions with…
/r/seduction09/06/17 06:08 PM
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No don't tell her she's the coolest person you've ever met. Play it down a bit, you don't want to scare her off. But you can simply tell her you think she's a cool person and you'd like to hang out again. Tell her over text and don't make a big production out of it, as it should come across very casual in tone. If she responds, awesome. Work out a good time to meet up that works for the both of you. If not, then sorry but she doesn't feel the same way. Move on to meeting cooler girls than she wa…
/r/seduction31/05/17 04:16 PM
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It is. This guy's just trying to sell his unoriginal product to people
/r/seduction30/05/17 11:16 PM
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No don't tell her you like her, you haven't slept together yet it may scare her away. But I do think it's a good opportunity to be authentic with her by telling her she's a really cool person and that you enjoy hanging out with and would like to do so again...if she doesn't respond to that, take it that she doesn't feel the same and move on
/r/seduction30/05/17 11:00 PM
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To get something you've never gotten, you must do something you've never done. So, get out there and take action. Say hi to every girl you see. Chat up the cute girl standing next to you in the grocery line. Start somewhere and just act. Don't be afraid to be super honest with these girls either. Show who you are. They may not be interested right away but the more action you take the more at ease you'll become, to the point where you'll gain a natural aloofness and non-neediness that's very attr…
/r/seduction18/05/17 10:55 PM
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Read this: http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2012/03/11/nine-steps-to-avoid-neediness-and-oneitis/ And this: http://www.francoseduction.com/neediness-management-2/
/r/seduction25/04/17 02:46 AM
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First of all, don't worry about the sex for now. Focus on two things: 1) Loving and working on yourself. 2) And socializing with everyone. Get friends that are girls too. So like the other poster says, maybe look into lifting as a part of working on yourself. Look into the way you talk to yourself and start treating yourself like you would a friend. And also, literally talk to everyone you can throughout your day. This will ultimately make you less needy, more confident, more social, and...more …
/r/seduction25/04/17 02:22 AM
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Both are effective. Robert Greene got his wife using the methods he describes in his book. But just know that no matter what girl you get you'll have to eventually show her the "real you" because no one can keep up a facade forever, and that's where inner game is still very important.
/r/seduction20/03/17 09:21 PM
1

He's literally said this is about being competent with reading body language and reading social cues. No one said anything about asking for consent
/r/TheRedPill20/03/17 07:47 PM
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I recommend reading "The way of the superior man" by David Dieda It's an easy read and it has great guidance on masculinity without turning the idea into a caricature
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:29 AM
1

Lead more. Be the action, the actor, not the reaction, or reactor.
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:24 AM
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They both work. Robert Greene material was used a lot in old school pickup and is still a good basis for indirect game. Being mysterious, playing hard to get, push pull, etc all excite a woman and plays with her imagination. Mark Manson shows the possibilities of direct game. Showing who you are and not being afraid to show your vulnerable shows you're a high status guy with high outcome independence which is very attractive to a woman. They're both different but effective styles of game, so try…
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:10 AM
1

You need to learn calibration
/r/seduction01/03/17 03:30 AM
1

I really like Mark Mansons second audiobook, the subtle art of not giving a fuck
/r/seduction28/02/17 07:59 PM
1

I see it like this. You'll never meet "her" again. She's her own person with her own personality and you may find another person similar but not "her". BUT you'll absolutely find someone just as good or better if you put in the work to put yourself out there. As an example, you may have broken up with "sushi" but you'll find some amazing "steak"
/r/seduction20/02/17 09:51 PM
1

It's more about the honesty aspect, but yea do whatever works for you
/r/seduction08/02/17 06:06 PM
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Focus on social circle game. Don't even worry about trying to get laid, just try to be as social as possible and get a variety of friends. From there you just ask a girl you'd like to hang out with, to hang out with you. Don't over game in h.s. because as a newbie you won't be able to walk away from your mistakes (as has already happened a bit you said). Save hardcore cold approach game for when you're in a big city or if you go to a decent sized college
/r/seduction07/02/17 05:29 PM
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Women will always go after value, but there are multiples of metrics on what constitutes value. Being good looking or having money is just a couple metrics but there are many more. Regarding your choices, always puck the more empowering choice when evidence is split. Also, no. It not just about approaching. Outer game is important but so is inner game. I'd read Models by Mark Manson if I were you because it keeps things simple, and then get off these forums! You need a lot of reference experienc…
/r/seduction07/02/17 05:23 PM
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Because you're getting attraction but not establishing comfort. After you get attraction: isolate, light kino, and talk about where she grew up or whatever
/r/seduction07/02/17 05:14 PM
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Social circle game, aka meet people thru friends
/r/seduction24/01/17 01:44 PM
1

Question for OP: Do you do NoFap, or limit the amount you masturbate as well? I've had similar accounts happen to me when I don't masturbate and I'm outcome independent (listed as your number one). Just curious that women may be picking up on that sexual energy from not masturbating as well Thoughts?
/r/seduction24/01/17 11:55 AM
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My guess? You come off as needy, which is like chick repellant. Work on becoming more outcome dependant
/r/seduction30/11/16 06:29 PM
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Here are some newbie missions to start you off: http://puamore.com/wiki/newbie-mission/ Just like going to the gym, you need to start from the beginning and work your way up.
/r/seduction27/11/16 06:39 PM
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Simple Solution: Do something scary. Example: Say hi to the hottest girl in a bar. Bravery is the one thing that can't be "faked" because even if mentally you're not confident, the action is all that matters to be considered brave. And afterwards, you'll feel pretty good about yourself. The scarier it was, the better you'll feel after you do it. And if you happen to continue to do scary things, you'll gain confidence. And with confidence, you could develop self love. And by this point you can op…
/r/seduction24/09/16 09:18 AM
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Mgtow isn't for everyone, but might be for you
/r/TheRedPill09/07/16 01:54 AM
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http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2016/05/16/racial-series-part-3-pickup-advice-asian-guys/
/r/TheRedPill12/06/16 01:29 PM
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Here is a good guided meditation to start you off: https://youtu.be/pzMhLmErz5Q
/r/TheRedPill09/02/16 04:00 AM
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Date more than one woman at a time. You won't be able to "act like she's like the other girls" or "try to see her flaws" or any other personal trick. It won't work. I know cause I've tried. Date multiple woman to get rid of the neediness. You could always become exclusive down the road when you're no longer holding her up on a pedestal
/r/seduction09/10/15 07:02 PM
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Fine. Do what you want. But he's not a pick up artist, he's comedian and is known as one of the greats (passed away a few years ago). He was a regular on comedy central roasts and the Opie and Anthony show...and he had unique views that spout redpill before redpill was even a thing.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/15 04:05 PM
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Yea, not true. It makes it easier if you have the looks, sure. But not necessary. Look up any Patrice ONeil on YouTube...the dude is like 400 lbs and gets massive success (and has great red pill attitudes...and is fuckin hilarious)
/r/TheRedPill12/09/15 01:10 PM
1

I see a lot of "fuck that bitch! Who is she to say shit like that?". But I'm surprised nobody is saying what seems pretty obvious to me: This was a shit test. And you, unfortunately, failed it. She was testing your frame. Very hot girls will do this to figure out how you see yourself. The hotter they are, usually the harder they'll test you. And because it fazed you, it shows that maybe deep down you think you're ugly, and you failed her test But look at it like this, if a little kid came up to …
/r/seduction12/03/15 05:29 AM
2

Learn about disqualifiers and start to practice with them. Examples: http://www.thepickupdiary.com/pua-styles-best-disqualifiers/
/r/seduction04/03/15 04:45 AM
1

That makes sense. I think I am addicted, and I sometimes have trouble with hardness or finishing during sex...which can be embarrassing I have a girl I just started dating coming over tomorrow, and I'm gonna use that as motivation to stop jerking it. At least until I see the symptoms go away. Jeez...it's gonna be difficult though
/r/seduction27/12/14 09:52 PM
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http://www.yareallyarchive.com/2013/6/#comment-heartiste-450395 Here is one of the greatest (and free) archives of posts I've ever found, by a PUA calling himself YaReally. He's the shit. I've linked a specific comment of his that addresses what a newbie should get into first to get laid like crazy. On top of this maybe "Rules of the Game" by Neil Strauss. I know this book gets a lot of flak because "no one is ever able to finish the 30 day challenge", but why knock a book because of a challenge…
/r/seduction27/12/14 09:35 PM
2

Style who popularized the cube back in the day has said in a podcast I believe that he would always use it in isolation. He had an example that he'd even use it specifically to isolate sometimes by selling the idea of the cube to the whole group, then say it only worked if you've never heard it before so he'd have to do it to one person at a time. Then pick the target to isolate, cube, escalate, etc. Don't listen to the guys who bash this stuff just because it's "old-school" pickup. Use if it wo…
/r/seduction27/12/14 09:02 PM
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Do you abstain from masturbation too like the nofap guys? Or just porn?
/r/seduction27/12/14 08:52 PM
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