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| 2 | War is a societal construct that glorifies the killing of men by other men. Don't be party to it.Exactly. I would argue that Wars are similar in function to how pimps and feminism worked for women. You tell a bunch of people in a poor class everything they want to hear basically. War promises young men that if they fight they will become better, get status, improve themselves, get money, learn how to fight, get women, learn discipline Etc now the cost to all that is.. you may die before you even have a chance to have kids or turn 21. Something that haunts me at night is thinking about how m… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/23 04:34 PM |
| 1 | "Working on yourself" is a two-way street where men can only learn and improve if they can, well... actually get to date women firstWhat would you advise these guys to do? If you were one of these guys what would you do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:30 AM |
| 3 | "Working on yourself" is a two-way street where men can only learn and improve if they can, well... actually get to date women firstI'll be honest as a black nerd that's kind of why I find myself alone all the time. Believe me I'm social enough but when you are a black nerd that comes with some type of Social and masculation when people don't even notice it. I've been around so many different social groups that I am well versed enough but just because you're good at that type of thing doesn't mean that you're socially attractive. I spend all my time drawing and painting. I've sold some stuff so I've gotten pretty good at it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:24 AM |
| 0 | "Working on yourself" is a two-way street where men can only learn and improve if they can, well... actually get to date women firstDo you think society would be better if we had like a class that taught young men and young women to reality of just this. I really don't think Society understands how the stuff works. Both men and women socially and sexually really underestimate how much our behaviors and what we do and act like come from our biology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:21 AM |
| 4 | "Working on yourself" is a two-way street where men can only learn and improve if they can, well... actually get to date women firstI believe what he's trying to suggest is there's a huge cognitive business between what we are told and what is reality and while what you're saying is true a huge chunk of society acts like this is a non-truth while still gaslighting young men. Young men are basically told the polar opposite messages of young women. They are told that they are expected to be hyper independent and that every single factor that is against him is not anything to be complained about and that they must just power th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:20 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistI'm honestly thought about taking the gamble again and going back to school for something more traditional to support myself while doing art. So far I've worked entry level service jobs and I can support myself but it's clearly not enough. I'm 26 though and school takes so much time and effort. Both my parents were poor. I grew up in an autistic brother. Both my parents are criminals in absolutely had no money and I'm surprised I was able to go as far as I did with no money or support. But when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:49 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistIf you had a son and he was a starving artist? What type of advice would you give him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:46 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistOn the son of two career criminals from the hood. I worked my way through two schools and even without the country for a little bit.. and now I am a starving artist and no idea what to do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:45 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistWhat company did you apply for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:44 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistI'm sorry I completely understand what you're saying now. It would be crazy for a guy to even try something like that. To invite a girl to something and try to pay for both and he can't afford it. If your son was a 20-year-old starving artist what would you tell him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:42 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistIt's not. You know what I mean. Everybody's definition of what could be financially in their means is very different. I was rejected by a girl who once lived in her car. I was making the same amount of money and I was living inside of a house even though it's not my house. Believe me she has the right to like and reject anybody but I found a standard crazy because in my head you think if you would find someone that was equal then it wouldn't be a problem but it really is the perception. I'm not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:41 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistI feel like starving artist men like me are in a weird position because if we allocated all our self-improvement and time and skills to something more traditional I don't doubt that we would be more successful in sex dating and in real life. But art is such a different ball game. It's not like basketball or finances or banking or being a doctor. You can't take a test in art and make a hundred and show that off to tons of people as proof of your efficiency. Artists don't really win gold or when i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:40 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistI guess where I am at right now. We can call it new artist that's growing in popularity. I have sold a bunch of pieces. I sold both digital and traditional art. People ask me to draw stuff all the time and I am locally known as an artist. But I am nowhere near making enough money to move out. Of course I still have a regular job but I'm not a comic book artist on a salary or contract nor am I with a gallery. I guess that's what I would describe as the Modern Age starving artist. You're not liter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:37 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistThat's okay I guess it just gets a little muddled nowadays because a lot of guys here so many conflicting messages. On one hand you're told that you should be equal and try to act accordingly but when it comes to our dating culture it seems like we are still expected to act like 1950s men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:35 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistDo you expect him to pay? That's what I mean by traditionalism. Basically do you expect your man to be like a 1950s man and make all the money and pay for everything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:33 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistWhat I mean by starving artist is that an artist literally in the beginning stages. He's known locally and he sold a bunch of pieces but he's not like the rich 10% of artists. For my own experience in the art field art is competitive but usually from a networking's perspective. The top 10% of artists usually already come from Rich families which makes it 500 times easier to network and actually find someone in the business. I started officially when I was 18 and I'm 26 now and I'm still very muc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:32 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistBy starving artist I mean an artist who is literally in the beginning stages. Why do you want your man to make more than you. Are you a feminist? Do you believe that men and women should be traditional? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:30 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistOnce again I'm not saying that you have to support a little man baby but I find it crazy because we're supposed to be in this new modern era and where men and women are supposed to be loose on gender roles but every time it seems to come back to dating that's where you see the gender roles still very much Remain the same. In a perfect feminist world where both men and women could be whatever a man's finances or income wouldn't be a factor but we are probably far from that world | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:30 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistDo you have your own place and stuff like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:29 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistBut you do see the weird irony right? Why is it okay for you to be in your late 20s and want all of this from a dude. You don't want to pursue an ultra high paying career but you want your hypothetical husband to? You just say that you yourself are nerdy. Are you saying that you are more traditional woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:28 AM |
| – | Q4W: Would you date a starving artistIf he can't afford it why can't you just pay? In a perfect world this wouldn't be an issue but I understand it some women still want traditionalism. Let's say he does pay significantly for whatever activity. But then let's say one day he was short and his paycheck didn't come. Would you pay for him and still be attracted to? I'm not saying that you have to take care of him or whatever, but this is something that kind of deters me from dating today because so many people tell me I'm the type of g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:19 AM |
| 1 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostI find it ironic because your last paragraph is basically what guys have no choice but to do, but then before that you give some type of excuse on why women can't be the first one to pursue. You say you used to tell guys that you like them and that they got awkward and that you stopped doing it but that's a part of the trap. Because the guys feel awkward all the time with doing this but we have no choice but to still do it because most of you guys will not do it yourself. You just proved my poin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 12:56 PM |
| 1 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostExcuses. Stop complaining | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsBut everything you just said is proof on why it's crazy. Because people say you do different things is what makes them hypocritical especially when it comes to intersexual dynamics. This is why there's so much frustration and liberal and for equality but you're dating behaviors really don't show it and that's where most of your biases are going to come out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsThat's kind of what I'm saying from both sides. A lot of women do not understand how many unknown social privileges they have. Which is easy for the gender role that is more passive because there's not much predicated on having your gender role being submitted versus men. Which means women have an easier time being outside with their normal gender role or could be any archetype of woman and not really have any social penalty. Tomboys are not seen as something socially unacceptable but femboy's a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 01:43 AM |
| 2 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsI can actually see that and I see it a lot with the red pill people on youtube. They promote these traditional gender roles and have some type of false Nostalgia for American Christian past. These are the same type of dudes that will be the Chad and Tyrone's and pookies and Ray Ray's | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsNot every woman. That's where the disconnect cone from. It common discourse you hear this but clearly those conservative men are attracting someone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsI really do think that women are the Game Changer in this because women have so much success with social stuff already it's because of ironically the same reason they are viewed as week and need protecting. Men giving women power in the last century was probably the biggest power move without Bloodshed the world has ever seen and it makes sense because men were already expected to give up for women. Those standards really have not changed and they really have not changed from our social sexual d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 09:04 PM |
| 0 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsBut it kind of makes sense and that's what a lot of men advise seems to be catered similarly too. The first thing anyone tells any guy if he's having trouble with girls just to basically bootstrap himself. Work super hard at X Y and Z and constantly expose yourself to girls in abnc. It's not bad advice per se but it's not like it's a check board where you do all this and you get a good outcome nor is it like jobs where you know you would at least be getting something from working on this. I see … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsBut nowadays it has strong connotations because we've politicized and so much of our morality onto sexual dynamics. Personally I agree with you but it's been unavoidable and even cause some friction between men and women as of late. Like you can't say that you believe men and women should be free or equal but all of your dating choices and habits prove opposite. That goes for man and woman. Like a man can say he wants a traditional woman similar to him and yet he's a man w****. Similarly a woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsI'm talking about the socializing and Behavioral aspect. Even as a kid I did absolutely nothing wrong but I was still treated as at risk and on one hand I understood why we on the other hand I didn't and it frustrated me. Here you are doing everything right and your parents who literally were career criminals are trying to give you advice they never even took. It's the same principle. If I was a womanizer I'm not going to tell my son not to be because that doesn't make any sense especially if he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsBut you're kind of proving my point about how not only is it stupid but hypocritical. You weren't thinking about all of that when you were at that age. And neither was that girl so why worry about what the next generation is doing. And I don't mean just accept things you're not attracted to but being open-minded means Thinking Beyond just stereotypical stuff that you hear whether that be for a man or woman. I find the stuff very frustrating because as a black man I grew up embodying everything I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 08:42 PM |
| 4 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsI get that but as someone who's very socially Savvy I kind of irks my ears when people say they believe in certain traits or ideas but clearly they only do it when it benefits them. Once again it's like the dad who acts super promiscuous in his teens and twenties but then wants to act like a Christian Saint when his daughter gets puberty. It's like though girl who spend nothing but putting yourself in bad situations and any of being a victim to bad men trying to raise her son to be a good boy. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsHonestly bro I feel the same way. I wanted to be free to be able to be my personality without having to constantly put on some type of act because at the end of it is stupid. I've had so many men give me unwanted respect because I'm big and muscle. I've had too many women become turned on then turned off by me because I look like a stereotypical Thug but I'm a big softy. I feel like this is getting into territory of wanting your fake and eating it too because I feel like that's the trade-off for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsYes. There has to be something crazy going on because you can't identify as one thing but your action shows something different. That's the main problem I think a lot of men have women these days is for the fact that men know that they can't just give up their gender role and still date but women don't want to perform their gender role but still expect men too. Believe me bro I'm a very open-minded liberal man. I'm an artist and all I have done is hang around artistic type people and they're goi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 08:28 PM |
| 7 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsKnow what I mean is that what we say politically doesn't match up with our actions especially when it comes to heterosexual dating. How many women call themselves open-mind ed but still date the same old traditional Gym Bro type dudes. How many men also say the same but turn into stereotypical dads with shotguns over what some young boy might do his daughter, even though he was doing the same thing and in some instances have no choice unless he wanted to be alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Did having a sibling of the oppostie gender make you more sympathetic of the struggles of the other gender?That's good | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 08:08 PM |
| 9 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsI agree. I have pushed so many of my male friends and female friends into really trying to understand if they agree with what they're talking about. If it is really true that you for go gender roles and don't care about other people's admission to them then allow that to be. On paper if men were really freed of their gender role then men should be able to do whatever they want and not receive any type of social penalty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 08:03 PM |
| 1 | Did having a sibling of the oppostie gender make you more sympathetic of the struggles of the other gender?Do you think more men should adopt mindsets like your brother. To be honest I did the same thing when I was younger but I still wanted to know what it was like today but I ended up contributing to the same cycle of social bull that I hated. It's a strange thing because we both men and women's worst behaviors only get reinforced by both. Men give out their attention to women all the time because they have no choice considering our social script for attracting and dating. But if the man individual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Did having a sibling of the oppostie gender make you more sympathetic of the struggles of the other gender?When you want him to be able to experience normal love sex and relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Did having a sibling of the oppostie gender make you more sympathetic of the struggles of the other gender?Which feeds into what you would call the misogynistic stuff because that's what's going to happen especially in the world where both men and women are already so ignorant about men's issues. Does your brother is expected to be strong it's correct to those roles is why he is so protective of women even when they deserve to be criticized. I used to be the same way. Another gender role for men is to constantly protect women even when they get us in trouble and even when they are in the wrong and I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Did having a sibling of the oppostie gender make you more sympathetic of the struggles of the other gender?Do you think you're other brother wants to go through that much work for a low returns. I'm saying that there's a guy who was much purismatic when I was younger but I also had almost no attention from girls. Now last forward to me being in my mid-20s I'm an absolute mental wreck who has absolutely no direction in life and I have attracted more women than I did when I was on a straight path. That's what I find all these weird standards and ideas about what is attractive confusing because on paper… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Did having a sibling of the oppostie gender make you more sympathetic of the struggles of the other gender?If you guys ever try to correct him when he was younger and as a sister could you tell that he was going to be unattractive to women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 05:13 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Would you prefer to be a man instead of a woman?Do you feel like a lot of women are upset about the downsides of being a woman versus not being the same as a man. Because I think that's why we get our definitions of the quality and what's considered a privilege messed up because to many men being a woman is considered a privilege. You can literally emotes and have such an emotional range and not get made fun of for it. You can have literally any personality archetype and not get made fun of forward or get a masculated for it. Especially nowad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 04:49 PM |
| 2 | CMV : A big cause of confusion is that the male “average” is statistically above average, but women understandably perceive this above average guy as averageIt doesn't upset me but I don't agree with this assessment because as a young man who's been through so many different phases before I even hit 18 I don't find the narrative that we're all lazy and unadjusted to social norms because for my experience I just was not true. But when you have a combination of all young people of all demographics being like that plus an unwillingness to be uncomfortable and be different then of course you're going to have more people being awkward and isolated. I'm a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 04:28 PM |
| 1 | At a certain age, it is completely pointless to chase women, even if you have a chad transformationI'm 26 now and girls don't seem as mysterious if they did when they're like 18. . Honestly the idea of sex and dating looks more fun on TV than it does feel like because of just how much work is placed on the man. I remember staying up one night until 5:00 in the morning, drunk with a girl and we talked about nothing but random stuff but after a while I got bored and wasn't in the mood for sex | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/05/23 06:39 PM |
| 7 | At a certain age, it is completely pointless to chase women, even if you have a chad transformationAnd someone who's going through their transformation right now I completely agree Love and romances are perfect and once you look past Beauty girls on either. There are so many girls I'm talking to right now but they put in half effort or they have something going on. Which one you look at their lives is kind of true because most of them are poor like like me but they're single parents. Of course girls are going to have the advantage anyway but for the amount of work you put yourself through the… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/05/23 04:11 AM |
| – | What's the idea in politics around virginity?Also in a perfect world there shouldn't even be anxiety or any types of lying or withholding information. I find it amazing that the girl I would hop in bed with would be very open with her discomfort and what she would like and how I viewed her. But I as a guy have to jump through all these mental Hoops just to not reveal that I'm a virgin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 12:11 AM |
| – | What's the idea in politics around virginity?In a perfect world I agree with you I really do but from my own experience as a young man I would tell a young man to lie. There is no guarantee he will get another chance. All things equalize the average girl can get way more attention and way more opportunities to have all types of relationships. Her male counterpart is not. This was something I have to tell my female friends when we all would go out to clubs. I told him I was very apprehensive about going out for certain girls because it's al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 12:10 AM |
| – | What's the idea in politics around virginity?Don't get me wrong you have the right to do anything but you can't expect me to be super understanding or sympathetic to women if you guys can't do the same to us | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 11:59 PM |
| – | What's the idea in politics around virginity?And also you would like to unfortunate implications of this is that, men also don't old women anything for any reason and I hate that type of mindset but this is what drives people to it. I get being uncomfortable with teaching somebody but I don't think it's unreasonable. Women cannot have all these crazy politics over men and about men's bad behavior but seem to reinforce the same behavior with your standards. Maybe the pressure of male virginity is why guys get so sex praised. Because they re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 11:58 PM |
| – | What's the idea in politics around virginity?I just think it's hypocritical that women collectively want them to be there for them to comfort them during any type of sexual sexual hang up. That's all I remember if you told us young dude was not how the girl can make me Comfort able supposed to make her comfort able. It is really hypocritical because if we reverse the gender there will be outrage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 11:54 PM |
| – | What's the idea in politics around virginity?I completely understand can you answer me this. What would you do if you were an 18 year old virgin boy who was in the middle of this type of thing right now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 11:53 PM |
| – | What's the idea in politics around virginity?I'm asking you stop thinking about it as some type of manipulative or deceit. And put yourself inside that young virgin man shoes. Dating is already hard enough for it man. And for personal experience is already hard enough dating as a virgin man because even if you have all the other qualities that steal something that is realistically going to be a barrier and our conversation is kind of proving it. So I have to keep asking should that young virgin mail lie or be quiet so he can finally lose h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 11:06 PM |
| – | What's the idea in politics around virginity?So he should just be quiet then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 11:05 PM |
| – | What's the idea in politics around virginity?My problem with the common advice is that it assumes virgin men are somehow clueless or don't know office. I lost my virginity at 24 and I'm still very iffy on penetrating a woman but I made a woman come without even penetrating despite following the motions and listening to whatever it was told for me from everybody since I was a teenager. But the other side of that is a woman has to be open and willing. That's why I think it is so frustrating for virgin men because the only barrier it seems to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 10:51 PM |
| – | What's the idea in politics around virginity?Okay but I'm talking about when that young man is in bed with a woman that he knows looks down on virgins and will be turned off if he States it. Should he lie or just be quiet? You guys make this scene like it's easy but put yourself in the shoes of that young virgin man. If he cannot lie to avoid getting the experience what does he do then.? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 10:44 PM |
| – | What's the idea in politics around virginity?And what would your advice be to Virgin man to avoid this phenomenon | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 10:16 PM |
| – | What's the idea in politics around virginity?So let's say A Guy meets you and he knows about all of this. Should he lie to avoid getting laughed at ridicule or denied actually learning? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Are people who criticize passport bros. hypocritical in this sense?Dude I don't even know if you're trying to argue against me because you are right that it's nothing new which is why I'm kind of surprised there's an outrage against passport bros. Those women in other countries and the women in our home country literally want the same thing so when you think about it it really is no difference | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 09:45 PM |
| 0 | Are people who criticize passport bros. hypocritical in this sense?Actually it's actually the other way around. Men are just now going overseas because women have been complaining for so long. You guys always sound childish when you try to make this competition but you guys were the ones who were complaining about being equal and men always being over you. The reason why men are constantly having to put you guys over is because you guys are attracted to it. If women weren't attracted to traits considered brutish or demanding or oppressive then you probably woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 06:05 PM |
| 3 | men don't care about women other than sexAnd honestly our conversation is kind of proof that both generous reinforce these horrible standards on each other. At this stage of my life I probably would have sex with a girl or not care because so far my experience with girls that show me that that's the only thing they respond to | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/05/23 05:48 PM |
| 5 | men don't care about women other than sexSo what are you trying to argue here then. It seems like there is a subset of both men and women who just do not care about the soul or person of that person. I thought that was common knowledge. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/05/23 05:48 PM |
| 4 | men don't care about women other than sexBut you understand my point right. I've had girlfriends literally look at me crazy because I wasn't groping them or grabbing their ass when I was in the middle of a serious conversation with them. I'm an artistic dude so I do appreciate all those types of things but making artistic dude I found it very ironic that so many girls were turned off by the fact that I was trying to emote and relate to them. It's not every girl but we need to stop acting like girls are these magical beacons of morality… | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/05/23 05:45 PM |
| 2 | men don't care about women other than sexMy question to you would be the women themselves respect and appreciate men who appreciate their traits and features outside of their beauty. Because it sounds nice but in my experience usually no. I have turned off girls because I wasn't being sexual enough and that was because I was admiring everything else besides their body. I understand what you're saying but we have to remember that sometimes men and women can work against each other even when they are doing the right thing | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/05/23 05:43 PM |
| 1 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?So can I ask you a question. Whenever we see a man in real life or online talking about women's bad behavior do we get to call him out or do we get to excuse it by saying that it's just internet or middle school gossip | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 12:10 AM |
| 1 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?I can probably if I work hard enough to find you so many Twitter posts Reddit posts and similar things of that nature of women talking about men in some unsavory ways | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 11:13 PM |
| – | Any men or women felt initial revulsion or was appalled at RP that later accepted and was glad to know?Honestly bro I think you can hurt especially given how much hope and work you put into something. It doesn't matter how much hope is hard work you put into building a business but if you do all that work just to find out that the business you just opened burn down or is under quarantine or Etc then no amount of hard work you put on that is going to make you feel better for having that huge loss of not only time and energy but what you work for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 08:56 PM |
| 2 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?Yes they do. Locker room talking disrespect it's not a gendered thing that only men do. Women are not perfect angels. I remember middle of high school and girls would talk about guys penis size and how they were in bed and their virginity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 08:20 PM |
| – | Any men or women felt initial revulsion or was appalled at RP that later accepted and was glad to know?None of that stereotypical stuff ever made me feel better and that's why I hate to share psychology about man and nastulinity because it's always some type of traditional stereotypical BS. We as a society cannot say one thing but our actions do the other | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 08:16 PM |
| – | Any men or women felt initial revulsion or was appalled at RP that later accepted and was glad to know?Look this type of stuff is perfect and it's not a guarantee it's going to make your life better even if you do full effort. I was a nerdy kid from the hood. Not only was I poor and destitute I was also a nerd. And for black nerves it doesn't matter how confident or socially adjusted you are because you will be excommunicated by both groups but I compensated. I worked out a lot and I stopped caring about what people thought and was genuinely myself and I even started my career as a visual artist … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 07:30 PM |
| – | Any men or women felt initial revulsion or was appalled at RP that later accepted and was glad to know?Men have a right to b****. We take on literally every single responsibility in burden of the world even the ones that don't make sense. I think that's the biggest reason why I've been in therapy for the last couple of years is taking on so much crap and just holding it in | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 06:23 PM |
| – | Any men or women felt initial revulsion or was appalled at RP that later accepted and was glad to know?What if you follow all these stuff and it still does not help you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 06:22 PM |
| 3 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?So a person that isn't experience should just give up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 07:59 PM |
| 2 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?So if you were a virgin man at 25 or 26 would you like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 07:58 PM |
| 2 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?It's not a matter of having a backbone for ignoring Society because if men do that then we end up alone. Believe me I was one of those men who completely did not care about society and then I found myself confused when I kept getting rejected and alone. Even though I was completely happy with myself, it was clear to me that I had to act like some type of something. The fact that you keep conflating in the making about your fear is what's making it frustrating because it keeps reinforcing yoursel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 05:58 PM |
| 4 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?You can understand why the behave that way though? All of society constantly hammers in on young boys that if they are not having sex then they are losers. Women do not make it any better especially when they judge virgin males harshly and reject them because of the virginity which is completely their right but it doesn't make the standard any better. Once again all of this does not come from anywhere. And believe me most men would rather have at least one woman but almost have no choice but tod… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 05:53 PM |
| 1 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?I get what you mean but being a young man and being a teenager a decade ago you will be surprised as how much for pressure it is on Young men. I was getting purged shamed by other virgin men and women in high school even though we were all virgins and all inexperienced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 05:42 PM |
| 1 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?So if you were a 25-year-old virgin mail would you lie? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 05:38 PM |
| 5 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?By definition the fact that men do get rejected I don't understand how it becomes a red flag unless every man started becoming a rapist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 04:16 PM |
| 2 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?That's the thing that I'm trying to say. It's not good because it's not accurate. So many people in my life have told me if I started getting tattoos and jewelry I will instantly look like a player. And as a visual artist I understand why because it's the look. Is the manipulation of visual cues causing the brain to feel and think x y and z. It's literally the same reason why I choose certain shapes and colors when I'm making a piece | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 03:07 PM |
| 1 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?I think I understand what you mean. If you were let's say 16 knowing all the standards and psychological things that go on between men and women and also realizing that as a 16 year old boy in this case it's all on you to make this happen, How would you go about trying to lose your virginity within legal and moral means. And if you were to find a girl that fancied you, would you lie about your virginity status to get that experience so you don't have to lie anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 02:56 PM |
| 1 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?I guess I can understand it from a stereotypical and cultural point of view. But there's a huge difference between what people say and what they do especially behind closed doors. It's like the preacher in church preaching about modesty and abstinate but you find out he was involved in a prostitution ring. I guess with our definitions to us individually and what we pursue and get in real life can sometimes conflict each other. I did not plan on dating a prostitute of course but when I met her an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 02:51 PM |
| 6 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?Outside of looks I never understood the correlation between having a moral traits and being a virgin. I mean think about it since men are told it to pursue women and women are the ones to decide then of course you're going to see more of that. It's hard to explain but there's a lot of social place going on that everybody kind of plays into without realizing it. 17 year old boy wants to lose virginity before 18. He wants to lose it because all his life he's been Trashed by everybody into believin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 02:49 PM |
| 2 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?I completely agree. Reality isn't really reality but perception is. And it's crazy how much socially things happen because of what we perceive. When I was younger I was Big and Tall so I was always looked like I was an adult and people would treat me accordingly. At age 15 I've had grown men try to recruit me to their game or police force or ask me for drugs. I even had older women hit on me because I thought I was older. That's why I really don't trust the instincts around this type of stuff be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 02:46 PM |
| 3 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?My ex-girlfriend was literally a prostitute at one point and I did not care at all. My girlfriend before that was a virgin had trouble with boys because she had that much low self-esteem and I did not care. I cared that her low self-esteem projected itself onto me and hurt me but even to this day I understand where that comes from and she didn't choose to have low self esteem. I'm not a girl so I really don't understand I guess If I came across a virgin girl now a 26th I was kind of feel honored… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 02:43 PM |
| 1 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?I can understand that, but your logic still isn't making much sense to me. You say he's only allowed to be a virgin for religious reasons but at the core of it I don't really see the difference if he was a virgin because he couldn't succeed or he didn't feel like it or if he was religious. Like what would be different if he had sex once in 2019 and decided to wait 3 years again to have sex. With absolutely no change to his personality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 02:29 PM |
| 2 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?Whether that's because a biology or sociology I really don't matter but that's kind of a given since men are told constantly within our culture that they have to pursue and it's reinforced by our behaviors and our conversation as people. But just because you pursue doesn't mean you succeed and just because you get more experience doesn't mean you're going to be compatible with someone else. Even when I was younger I never stood the politics Around The Virginity because it's not like a guy is goi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 02:28 PM |
| 0 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?But wouldn't him being a virgin for religious reasons still have the same effect even if he wasn't. Like if he was a virgin for religious reasons he probably wouldn't have too much relationship experience either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 02:24 PM |
| 0 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?I understand what you mean. I guess it just seems so strange because girls do the rejecting so instead of thinking about why he's tried and failed you have to understand that he's probably trying to fail because not every girl is going to like him thus he's probably going to be rejected way more times than he is successful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 02:20 PM |
| 2 | What's the idea in politics around virginity?But by our definitions of sexuality it's very possible for someone to be a virgin past 25 because they weren't chosen for x amount of reasons. Especially considering that there is still so much virgin shaming | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 02:02 PM |
| 6 | Apparently We All Just Need To Shut Up And "Work With" Feminism...Exactly. And the thing is as a man we know we can't label it that because it's still expected of us and we will be looked at as corny or unattractive if we stated it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/23 01:05 PM |
| 6 | Apparently We All Just Need To Shut Up And "Work With" Feminism...Yes and I get that but during relationships there is no such thing because every relationship is predicated on having emotional labor and it's immature to think about it that way. Especially for men because we are expected to take on a woman's emotional baggage and burdens. You don't know how many times I've been on the first date to where I'm expected to hold back a lot of information unless I look like I'm trauma dumping right? But almost every single time I've been on the date the girl prompt… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/23 12:46 PM |
| 3 | Apparently We All Just Need To Shut Up And "Work With" Feminism...I got to explain to so many people that is why throughout so much history men who sacrificed their bodies and work or seen as heroes. Think about it. You're a poor Farmer in the middle of nowhere. Your king or Lord has just called upon you to protect the land. Unlike the king or the nobility you have absolutely no power and no way for Upward mobility. You have nearly no choice but to fight because if you don't it could mean the destruction of your Homeland and you most likely will be shamed or o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/23 09:35 AM |
| 15 | Apparently We All Just Need To Shut Up And "Work With" Feminism...It's a feminist term and I hate it. This and emotional the labor or stupid terms because they describe basic human socialization. And it's crazy because girls are notorious for being the first ones to do this. You don't know how many first dates I've had girls just open up about everything which is good because I want them to but the problem is knowing that if you was a guy do the same thing that you're looking at is unattractive or weird | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/23 09:31 AM |
| 6 | Apparently We All Just Need To Shut Up And "Work With" Feminism...Which I don't even understand because most male characters don't even act like that. Hell you can look back at most cartoons from the 2010s and even the most feminist ones did not act like how they acted modern times. Looking back I actually find the male character says written in 2000s it's much more open and expressive and writers weren't afraid to tackle crazy subjects in a subtle way. Nobody likes toxic a whole characters that's why I can never really get behind the 90s gritty anti-heroes. Y… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/23 09:30 AM |
| 5 | Apparently We All Just Need To Shut Up And "Work With" Feminism...That's what my experience as a male feminist and I don't think we do male feminist Justice whenever we talk about what brought them there. I was pulled in by feminism because I believe the lie. Feminism is good at telling men that they understand men and that they are secretly on men side but any man that's in feminist basis for too long will tell you that that's just not true. And it's just like you said. They're most Insidious tactic is that they really make you believe that they understand yo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/23 09:28 AM |
| 5 | CMV: As long as men refuse to call out other men, male issues will never be taken seriously.You are more focused on your hatred than really what is going on because man since the dawn of time have clowned and pushed other men even when it didn't need to be. You know the amount of times I have been told that I need to somehow work out or be stronger than men that are literally smaller and shorter than me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 11:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: As long as men refuse to call out other men, male issues will never be taken seriously.Those men were put in charge because of the affirmation pressures of men having to be dominant I'll stop acting like that doesn't come from anywhere. Not only does society men into taking these roles otherwise they're looked at as losers but women are attracted to the same men who do these things | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 11:18 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on dating work-in-progress insecure guys?My biggest complaint is what makes you think men are already doing this. It is totally possible for men to work on insecurities and all of that stuff and still end up losing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 09:55 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on dating work-in-progress insecure guys?But why can you guys literally be the queens of complaining but we can't even complain about what we go through | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 09:50 PM |
| 6 | Men, unlike women, are expected to take full responsibility for their own problems: the unholy alliance between feminists and the far rightCompletely agree. Being a man today you get two very conflicting and dangerous messages. You are such a hyper masculine man to the point where you must constantly be made out to be feared. As in your constantly looked at as a threat. On the other side of that you're constantly told how much of a wimp you are. How much you suck versus your father or grandfather's generation or how unmanly you are because you don't do x y and z. Both modern feminism and traditional conservatism are two sides of th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/23 05:55 PM |
| 19 | Postive masculinity is still something vague when you think about it.I hate the term positive masculinity because it's just another regurgitation of pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and being a"good man" If we were really the society we say we are. Men should literally be whatever they want at any time and there would be no judgment or push back judged entirely on his maleness I read somewhere that a lot of rapists are the way they are because they truly believe that they need sexual experience to be considered real men. And I really believe that because bo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/04/23 01:17 PM |
| – | I find that most times, disillusionment with the opposite sex has a lot to do with where one is looking/ who one is ‘making space’ forI'm going through the same thing right now bro it's crazy. I'm the Chad That Never Was. All my life people kept telling me that I could be a player and honestly I always knew why but it was so friends because honestly came from a weird reasonable place. I'm a very huge muscular black guy. I'm pretty sure if I just get one neck tattoo and wear some jewelry I could easily fit even more into the bad boy stereotype. It's so uncomfortable though because I'm a lover boy. I'm an artist. I'm still starv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 10:51 PM |
| – | CMV: Women not wanting to be judged and having terrible judgement are two sides of the same coinBecause it's very liberating. And there are some women out there. And I think that's what he means. Of course a woman can have standards and all of that but it really seems like a lot of girls really hates being judged but are so judgmental themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Are women's insecurities tolerated while men's are seen as problematic, a weakness, or demonized for being inherently toxic?It could be argued that women's insecurities also do damage but in a very different way does not direct and even still. Most people's insecurities really don't do that much damage. And I get what you mean but even the violence against women is not as open handed as you speak of and I say that as someone who grew up in a household where both my parents beat each other up regularly The fact that women are seen as more docile and not as threatening is such a huge advantage. You're not seen as a dan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 10:29 PM |
| 14 | Are women's insecurities tolerated while men's are seen as problematic, a weakness, or demonized for being inherently toxic?My biggest disagreement with this is that it goes against Natural flow with socializing. Socializing isn't rational and that's where most of our biases and inconsistencies come out. How many of us have overshared on a date? And how many of us have done it without knowing? And that goes for both men and woman and that's why I find it silly whenever it's brought up My ex-girlfriend once said that. She swore that guy's would tell her stuff that she didn't want to hear and yet she's the poster child… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 10:24 PM |
| 7 | Are women's insecurities tolerated while men's are seen as problematic, a weakness, or demonized for being inherently toxic?P*** and s*** shaming has to be supported by women too. Would that make it any less problematic? We have to stop using each other's gender as some type of gotcha. It's sexist and wrong no matter if it's the gender doing it to another or to their own gender Men have contributed towards war. But that does not make war any less a very manipulative and predatory practice that not only indoctrinates men but encourages them to join it. My own ex-girlfriend was sold into sex trafficit by her own mother… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 10:20 PM |
| 2 | Are men seen as expendable?So who's the victim in this because what you're explaining to me really hasn't changed my opinion. That's literally how governments have convinced men how governments have convinced men to do crazy stuff for centuries. Women are not attracted to Losers. Therefore there's even more incentive for men to do certain stuff because they will provide them the very means for them to attract a woman. Young boy grows up in village. Young boy is literally a part of the 99% of the rest of the poor people of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 10:08 PM |
| 2 | Are men seen as expendable?All I heard was a bunch of excuses and I admire and appreciate that you have more information but my point is that we cannot few women simultaneously as a victim and somehow not an active agent. Especially when it comes to things like this. No I don't agree with that it was other men trying to use women to control men. Why do we always act like these women did not have any choice in the matter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 08:58 PM |
| 5 | Men seem to spend their energy convincing bitchy women to fuck/date them.Think of it from a man that's a millennial. All we heard from our mothers and a woman before us were how horrible men were but the biggest cognitive dissonance with that is that we are all literally too young or just now becoming adults to where all the standards they say that men just have did not make sense. Here I am a 17 year old man and I haven't done anything traditionally or stereotypically to which a lot of girls say that men do. But it's not like I'm getting rewarded or respected more j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 05:01 PM |
| 4 | Men seem to spend their energy convincing bitchy women to fuck/date them.That's mostly women. I grew up by mostly women in an African-American community and it's really telling how much internet and hate goes on. And it's not justifiable because any man could take any number of bad experiences he's had with a woman to use that. But the difference is all of women's complaints and grievances about men has literally not only been socially accepted but it champions different Industries like media and dating for example. And there's almost no where culturally where men ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 04:57 PM |
| 5 | Are men seen as expendable?During World War 1 there was a movement called the white feather movement. This movement was mainly upper class upper crust British white women. Also known as the women who not only benefited from being a woman so they didn't have to fight but also benefited from being a rich woman which meant that their husbands and brothers and fathers most likely did not have to fight. The same girls went around Britain and shamed any man that was not in a military uniform into joining the army. This was so b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Are men seen as expendable?Your program at this point though and that's what makes us Expendable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 04:45 PM |
| 7 | Men seem to spend their energy convincing bitchy women to fuck/date them.I agree completely. Men go through as many crazy hangups with horrible Partners as women who but when we are victimized by women it's not nearly represented in Media or in modern culture as much as it should even though it's a reality. Even when you're looking at a TV show and a couples going through problems that's clearly the woman's fault, they're still some way that the TV show will make it seem like it's the man's fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 04:28 PM |
| 14 | Men seem to spend their energy convincing bitchy women to fuck/date them.When I was younger this is actually why I hated our dating Dynamics in the modern age. And absolutely trashy and completely negative and horrible woman can literally still have success in life and dating simply just because she is attractive. It's everyone's fault but it is also partially against fault because we are so focused on trying to improve ourselves that having sex with and insufferable woman is still considered a win because you're still getting something out of it. It's super unrealis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 04:27 PM |
| 1 | It's perfectly sensible for a woman to be rapidly promiscuous with some men, and have tougher criteria for relationship-material menYou are very misguided if you believe this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 02:08 PM |
| 1 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenHaving sex or a relationship with a woman but leaving them completely satisfied or logging for you. Relationships and sex always seem boring to me unless I knew that woman was really emotionally into me, I still like sex like other dudes but I was never a dude could just have sex on demand. So basically my definition of success with women would be an absolute win both in body and mind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 09:22 PM |
| 1 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenHas becoming more of a problem with career women and it's not the women or the career perhaps. But most women want the man to be the breadwinner and when you are a career woman you basically locked yourself out of that type of relationship. Because most girls are not going to want to be the breadwinner over their man and not only that, I bet as a career woman it is hard to find other men attractive if they're not making as much money. On paper it shouldn't be a problem but clearly it has been fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 07:14 PM |
| 2 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenAnd I work at sales and the women around me are the polar opposite. I believe you but you're one experience does not get to Trump mine just because it's your personal experience. What I just described is about 60% of all women from my own experience, and the worst part is I don't really think they are really aware that they are doing it. We have to demystify that you guys are somehow special we can just have super senses and can tell what someone else is thinking because if that was the case the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Women who claim men left them after sex are just shifting blame to menSee it's not though. And using movies as evidence can be a slippery slope because I work in fiction and too many people will try to use works of art to push an agenda when that same agenda can easily be reversed. I once heard a woman use sitcom dads as an example of why men are looked at as idiots or fools. You know instead of seeing it for what it is and realizing it's a stereotype created from TV instead of taking it from real life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 06:54 PM |
| 2 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenAnd I'm saying this as a man because we are the ones that are dating women, you are one out of 20 women. Most girls are still very much expecting their man to pick up their traditional gender role. Which does mean buying for everything and trying to constantly impress her. I don't think this would be a problem but the problem comes to the fact that we're supposed to be in a new feminist World in 2023. The same girl that will scream about wanting men to somehow respect her it's the same girl that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 06:28 PM |
| 1 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenThat kind of is it just of it outside of some genuinely true male and female relationships. What I hate though is that most guys already have strong friendships with women but that has no bearing on if he's going to be sexually successful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 06:26 PM |
| 2 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenBut the major difference is is that women for the most part do not have to approach me in the same way. And almost all heterosexual relationships the common social script is that the man does to the woman. He pays for everything, and he impresses her and he takes her out. That's very different from just understanding how a woman may be via of having friendships through women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 02:51 PM |
| 1 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenThat's not a good thing. No guy likes to hear that he's relationship material | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 01:23 PM |
| 3 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenI find it insulting because having female presence really does not mean it can lead to traits which women like. I don't understand where this comes from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 01:20 PM |
| 3 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenOkay now imagine your boyfriend when he has all those same traits and imagine all the women before you who completely rejected him or ignored him. I respect your experience as a woman but you're not a man dating a woman. I grew up similar to your brother and it would be crazy for me to attribute any type of failure or success with women to my proximity to women around me. If that was the case I wouldn't have struggled so much when I was younger and I wouldn't have succeeded when I was older. A b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 12:05 PM |
| 2 | Women here advise guys to "touch grass" and "talk to actual women" yet stigmatize and threat profile men for approaching themYou're not saying anything most guys already have not heard or have not tried and that's something that gets even more frustrating is that dating is this difficult and irrational because there is no point system. And what I mean by that is literally on paper you could be exactly the type of guy most girls say they want but how you are going to be perceived individually by different individual women is going to be very different from the next. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 11:20 AM |
| 3 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenAnd once again most guys have all of this already and it has nothing to do with their sexual success. This sounds nice and morally good and it makes sense on the surface, but having a bunch of friendships and being good at those types of things is very different from sexual experience. Honestly the whole argument around social proof only works if the woman is already attracted to that dude. Because like I said before you can have all the social proof and have all the confidence but that's not a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 11:18 AM |
| 6 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenExactly. I find it insulting that so many people think young men are incapable of being able to appreciate women's media, appreciating femininity or just having female friends. We literally are all half of humanity and most of us will not go a day of our life without seeing the opposite sex. At work. At school. At home. In the community. Etc And that's the sad as irony of all this is that so many young men who review as socially male adjusted probably grew up not really caring about what's mascu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 04:03 AM |
| 3 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenFrom my perspective right now, a loner. And that's because when you don't have anyone around that is constantly checking for perceived slice, awkwardness or whatever, you are free to literally just be and whatever happens goes. Most men try not to be creepy and I think a lot of men realize that they have no choice but to shoot their shot and to be a little pushy because otherwise you get nowhere. Honestly I really think it's just getting older in my mid twenties and honestly really did mystifyin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 03:59 AM |
| 6 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenAge. That's the only thing I can really think of, when I was around 19 to 21 I was very punctual and outgoing. I've worked in management and I have led clubs before so I know I have leadership skills. The only thing I can really think of is I've gotten older and I stopped being scared of being perceived as a creep which I do think is a real concern. Something that did hold me back a lot when I was younger is that I did not want to make a girl feel uncomfortable. I was raised around women and tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 03:29 AM |
| 2 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenMy point is there is no guarantee for anything and most guys are doing some version of all of this type of stuff anyway and there's still no guarantee for success. We should go without saying but I think the advice giver should actually acknowledge that as well. As I stated before on paper I should not be doing well with women. I have no car and no money and I'm a college Art School dropout. But I'm doing more better with women than I was while I was still in school and literally at my most soci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 03:06 AM |
| 7 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenAnd I get the idea of this advice but even as a young man I found it so insulting that just a base stereotype for every young man was just that we were somehow these unsocialized Savages which is literally no different from any other sexist stereotype of all time Real life is not some type of sitcom cartoon. Most men aren't blundering buffoons who don't know how to act right and I really do think that that's a big cause and why men are really viewed as that. At 16 years old I was pretty independ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 03:04 AM |
| 3 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenBut this is also an opposite extreme of advice because it's almost insulting to assume that most men aren't already social have friends. Most awkward 17 year old boy still have a nice friend group of usually boys and girls but that does not stop the rejections or bullying or masculation. Once again this goes so counter to my experience as a man who literally was raised by mostly women, it did not help my encounters with them. In truth I really don't think most women really do care how many frien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 03:02 AM |
| 1 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenAnd once again you can have all the social proof and I've been on both sides of this and that's how I know that it's not always a 100% guarantee. Once again I literally have always had female friends and it never helped me. As a matter of fact I'm at my most mentally unhealthy and loneliest I've ever been and I've had more experience with women than when I was at my most confident in social. How other people perceive you is most likely 60% on them. Once again you could be completely confident bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 03:01 AM |
| 1 | Women who claim men left them after sex are just shifting blame to menMost people do unethical stuff to get laid all the time. Both men and women literally do this all the time and I think that's the biggest barrier to why so many inexperienced people don't have experience. They are so worried about not being disrespectful that they never get anywhere. I literally told a female friend of mine this the other night. Women aren't men so they will never really understand what it's like being in a man's shoes trying to attract a woman. Most women can literally just be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 02:59 AM |
| 6 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenIn theory that could work but that only can happen if you already are in some type of threshold that makes you attractive. That's why I hate it when so many of my female friends try to introduce me because in their head they're thinking that there should be no problems, but they are unaware that their friends are also attracted to the same top 10% of men that they are. It's like that one Tinder girl that made a profile as a man even though she was a girl. Because she was a girl she ignorantly th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 02:57 AM |
| 5 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenI don't take these studies seriously because they are inherently anti-male and I'm giving you my experience as a very insecure man who was ironically also very social. So many stereotypes that the left and the right will use to describe men are so disingenuous because it goes so counter to not only my experience but so many other men. I had a good 40% ratio of female friends from elementary to high school and that was not a factor into how much success I had. Sometimes even the opposite. We have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Women who claim men left them after sex are just shifting blame to menYour Point's not proven because if anyone wants to blame it's our dating culture and other women. Why would I be super respectful and courteous to a girl when I know that literally 10 of her friends will open her legs for me and I could be the worst man ever. Once again I as a man hate this but I was also the super respectful nice guy at one point and I literally got no female attention. You guys cannot get mad at men for doing what works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 02:51 AM |
| 1 | What do women who post on venting sub-reddits feel about this particular response from males?People need to stop saying this obvious it's something that's so normal because in most guys experience it's not the case. Most men have female friends. Most men are still single. So that should tell you that having female friends or knowing how to have relationships that are platonic with women doesn't necessarily translate to having success with women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 02:49 AM |
| 1 | What do women who post on venting sub-reddits feel about this particular response from males?More so, don't follow the generic device trying to be respectful or friends to women first because they will friends on you despite what they say. You guys need to stop acting like this is somehow rocket science. It is so humiliating as a guy to literally have so many genuine intentions only to end up friend zoned by the same woman who will call you toxic if you try to be more alpha or more pushy. Ironically those are the same type of guys that do well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Women who claim men left them after sex are just shifting blame to menWomen do it too though. I know so many girls who say they like a guy but after sex they don't like it and therefore ghosts or lie or manipulate him. It happened to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Women who claim men left them after sex are just shifting blame to menUnfortunately that's because even though men usually have good intentions, we have to go through so much more crazy and sometimes embarrassing and self-disrespecting things to get laid. Men almost have no choice and that's how challenging it is for us. Why would I come at you normally and respectfully just to be friendzoned or ghosted when I know I can manipulate you because it literally works? I hate it as a man and I'm pretty sure most men hated as well but we look at results. Being Mr respect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 02:39 AM |
| 4 | a man success with women has nothing to do with how well he has friendships with womenAnd I'm telling you as a man who always had a well-rounded group of diverse friends, this isn't something that's like a magic Kryptonite. You could yourself could be confident but how other people perceive you is how they're going to perceive you. As in you could be super confident and have all the great female friends in your circle at a club but that is not going to make that girl across the room like you anymore different if you did not have all those other skills because she's not going to k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 02:35 AM |
| 8 | Women here advise guys to "touch grass" and "talk to actual women" yet stigmatize and threat profile men for approaching themThis is coming from the experience of a woman and that's why it's so hard for you guys to really grasp the experience of a man approaching. A man can do everything that entails touching grass and talking to women but that does not guarantee a success. Men usually have the best intentions but you can see how frustrated it is being a man who is trying his best intentions with a woman and starting out with friendship only to find yourself in the friend zone, ironically because you were trying so ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 01:45 AM |
| 9 | Does this sub believe that "traditional" masculinity and/or gender roles should be promoted/encouraged?I agree completely and that's why you don't see men's gender role really freeing up because men and their inherent productive power is super valuable even more so ironically in our super technolized Society. In my own work I keep hearing there's a shortage of people and trades, and the military ironically two very masculine spaces. Even still most of the dirty and hard jobs whether it be welding or HVAC or working in construction is still men. I was working in retail and working a factory job. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/03/23 12:18 AM |
| 18 | Does this sub believe that "traditional" masculinity and/or gender roles should be promoted/encouraged?That's why I love it. When I was a kid I would be considered very right wing but it was an extreme reaction to trauma as a kid. I grew up black and my dad was not around, my little brother was disabled. Of course it was stupid because it was not making me happy, and it didn't matter how many miles I ran or how many weights I can lift. It was finally accepting that I was unique in my own masculinity whenever I felt like it is what I finally was free | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/03/23 12:16 AM |
| 1 | why do women dominate teaching?That's also a big driver is to think about income. Men are still very much expected to be the breadwinner so of course you're going to find men going into more financially lucrative things despite teaching being a very respectable career. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/23 05:04 PM |
| -6 | men do get more attractive as they get olderBut why do you think it's always been such a stereotype. And I really think it is something that is biological or something that's automatic. Like a woman doesn't really have to work up to her beauty, and I'm very beautiful woman is very noticeable to a lot of men. There are so many social and biological reasons why you guys ain't got a beautiful woman is so instant and automatic for a man. Her youthful beautiful face biologically signals fertility and good signs of pregnancy. I bet seeing an ol… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/03/23 11:55 AM |
| 0 | I 20F in college with a 14M brother who watches tiktoks on masculinity regularly with spartans, knights, warriors and etc saying to be strong and be stoic. Is this bad I want him to embrace feminism and hoping he doesn't hate women?Exactly. I'm getting tired of everybody viewing feminism as this all knowing and all powerful God that judges morally, but that's just not the case in reality. I really think we need to stop viewing men and relationships in a feminist lands because not only will it never work, but every relationship is different and how two people get together and what they consider respectful inappropriate it's going to look very different to the next few people. If you listen to feminism they'll tell you that … | /r/ExRedPill | 19/03/23 11:52 AM |
| 2 | I 20F in college with a 14M brother who watches tiktoks on masculinity regularly with spartans, knights, warriors and etc saying to be strong and be stoic. Is this bad I want him to embrace feminism and hoping he doesn't hate women?Something you can really help him with is give him a concrete positive example of a successful feminist relationship. And what I mean is that show him something that is undeniable proof that men and women can work together and succeed without one of the other being forced into a certain role. Something you can also help him with this confidence with approaching and dealing with the opposite sex with also telling him that there is no guarantee that he's going to have a good outcome or not be reje… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/03/23 11:50 AM |
| 2 | I 20F in college with a 14M brother who watches tiktoks on masculinity regularly with spartans, knights, warriors and etc saying to be strong and be stoic. Is this bad I want him to embrace feminism and hoping he doesn't hate women?I see more women be more open up to but nowhere near at the rate that it should be giving off living a society and I think that's what he's trying to call out. That's what I've been trying to call out for years. Women can't just sit back and be in the role that gets to decide who gets what and gets rejected but then complain about men's complaints. Until women mostly know what it is like to actually be the one in the sewer role with all the positive and negatives that come with it then I don't t… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/03/23 11:48 AM |
| 1 | Sexual politics is damaging young menIt's a yin yang situation between how masculinity and femininity is viewed. I agree with you completely but something that a lot of feminists don't understand is that the same mechanism that's causing a 16 year old girl to be called a s*** even though she hasn't had sex, has the same mechanism that's causing the 16 year old boy to be called a weirdo virgin because he has not had sex. Keep in mind he could totally have friends or even have had a girlfriend or other stuff without having to sex but… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/23 11:38 AM |
| 3 | Sexual politics is damaging young menIt's a cycle problem because all it takes is a few bad examples and experiences. The reason why a young girl dresses up like I want to be hoe and does all this stupid stuff to her body is because she's not only trying to get men's attention but she's also trying to fit into society. That young boy dresses up like I want to be Thug and does a lot of at risk activity not only to get female attention but to fit in with his friends. This is how I always saw the nature of man and woman because all it… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/23 11:36 AM |
| -2 | Young men invisible until 30?Judging by the numbers most young average men aren't dating most young average women and I think that's the problem. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/03/23 11:16 AM |
| 0 | I don't know what to believeIt's literally something you can see in real life if you take away the academics and politics and talking about real individual people on the street. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/03/23 11:14 AM |
| 1 | I 20F in college with a 14M brother who watches tiktoks on masculinity regularly with spartans, knights, warriors and etc saying to be strong and be stoic. Is this bad I want him to embrace feminism and hoping he doesn't hate women?They don't get these expectations out of nowhere so they're not realistic as you can find real examples of real women like this in real life | /r/ExRedPill | 19/03/23 11:13 AM |
| -2 | I 20F in college with a 14M brother who watches tiktoks on masculinity regularly with spartans, knights, warriors and etc saying to be strong and be stoic. Is this bad I want him to embrace feminism and hoping he doesn't hate women?This exactly the types of stuff that makes young men go red pill is because any young man who even comes to any other conclusions besides feminism is made out to be some type of patriarchal monster and this happens young as possible. No 14-year-old boy who was going through the motions of middle school and he'll probably has problems at home wants to hear that he's just a patriarchal monster, and that all his problems are just his fault. You combined feminist shaming with sexual repression with … | /r/ExRedPill | 18/03/23 06:03 PM |
| -6 | I 20F in college with a 14M brother who watches tiktoks on masculinity regularly with spartans, knights, warriors and etc saying to be strong and be stoic. Is this bad I want him to embrace feminism and hoping he doesn't hate women?Maybe just respect your brother and why he came to the conclusions he's come to instead of treating him like and at risk monster. I'm not saying that you're doing that but just because he doesn't agree with the feminist mindset doesn't mean he's crazy, I was a 14 year old boy one point and I didn't come to the conclusion I came to just out of thin air. Maybe listen to his experience and really analyze why he came there without trying to tell him he's wrong all the time. The worst things that dro… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/03/23 06:01 PM |
| -1 | I 20F in college with a 14M brother who watches tiktoks on masculinity regularly with spartans, knights, warriors and etc saying to be strong and be stoic. Is this bad I want him to embrace feminism and hoping he doesn't hate women?Exactly. Respect your brother and why he comes to his conclusions. I'm not saying put up with any craziness or massage but just because your brother doesn't agree with you does not mean he's wrong or that you're right. You're really going to have to sell it to him that he's not a bad guy just because he's a man and that's not every woman is just always right especially if they do something bad to him | /r/ExRedPill | 18/03/23 06:00 PM |
| 30 | Sexual politics is damaging young menAnd that's the weird double bond because you're expected to be all knowing and be successful would every single woman but at the same time you're supposed to watch yourself because your sexuality is inherently freaky or predatory | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/23 03:21 PM |
| 80 | Sexual politics is damaging young menSomething that frustrates me when I talk to feminist is that male sexuality has always been demonized. There is always been in great cultural fear of male sexuality. I even know some men that still live in the south that will literally kick their sons out of the household because they are experimenting with the opposite sex. I know tons of men that still believe in waiting for marriage. There's a Trope of the dad with the shotgun threatening his daughter's boyfriend for a reason. Something that … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/23 12:45 PM |
| -1 | I don't know what to believeI get where it comes from, but a lot of feminism and a literature in wording around it seems to always imply that the woman is the inherent victim and the man is the inherent perpetrator. With all the Criss Crossings of our social biases pertaining to masculinity and femininity I think it's way too easy just to brush that term around. When I was a young man I agreed with feminism because it made sense especially culturally on how we in America View and project ideas on the people pertaining to t… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/03/23 12:36 PM |
| -1 | I don't know what to believeNot really analyzing culture in an unbiased way especially pertaining to masculinity and femininity within history. Two things can be true at once and masculinity and femininity are both forms of power. Someone gaining power through a similar system is not changing the system. The language feminist use describing men is absolutely no different from the average toxic 1950s dad and how he views his manhood. It's always in some type of immaculating or dehumanized way which either makes demand of se… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/03/23 12:34 PM |
| -2 | I don't know what to believeModern coffee shop feminist is very different from second wave feminism and I don't have to copy or bring out all the feminist literature I've ever read in my life to prove that do I? I hear you guys but that does not mean that you guys are correct. That doesn't mean I'm correct either | /r/ExRedPill | 18/03/23 12:32 PM |
| 1 | I'm not red pill anymore but I still have a lot of painIt doesn't identify because it doesn't match up with my reality, but that does not mean he does not tackle some good points but the biggest reason why I push back against someone like him is because I was him at one point | /r/ExRedPill | 18/03/23 12:30 PM |
| -4 | I don't know what to believeThe saddest part about all of this is that nobody wants to be a talk to male but those are the guys who are always successful first. They're the type of guy that every single song movie and internet article is about No amount of unlearning massage knee or toxic masculinity is going to do anything. Despite popular belief most modern men already have an understanding about toxic message what it can do but that does not stop women from being attracted to it or being attracted to men who embody it. … | /r/ExRedPill | 17/03/23 01:01 AM |
| -2 | I don't know what to believeWhat feminism isn't some all knowing god and just because you are a feminist doesn't mean you're right. There are so many contradictions within feminism | /r/ExRedPill | 17/03/23 12:53 AM |
| 1 | in theory, wouldn't women making more money be a non-issueAnd keep in mind I don't want you just to bow down and agree with me if you don't feel like it but it gets so frustrating because we tell people on one hand that we should believe they're lived experiences but every time I bring up mine everyone wants to climb down my throat and tell me I'm just wrong. Why would I lie about something like that? | /r/ExRedPill | 16/03/23 01:47 AM |
| 1 | in theory, wouldn't women making more money be a non-issueAnd bro this is why I get so frustrated with these types of conversations because what you have seen and what have you have heard from feminist in your life does not supersede mine. I hang out with feminist too, I was raised by a bunch of feminists so I know exactly what is BS and what is actual fact. Yes bro I know tons of feminists in real life that will actually say this. I know so many feminists in real life who think they are feminists but will straight up tell me that they are turned off i… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/03/23 01:46 AM |
| 1 | in theory, wouldn't women making more money be a non-issueTons of self-reclined feminists and people who swear that they understand this type of thing I can catch in terms of times and conversation talking about this very same thing. Just like how a racist does not beat myself to be racist, I don't think many feminists really understand that they don't follow what they preach. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/03/23 01:37 AM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolI'm sorry it's just the reasoning of women not approaching to sometimes sounds like an excuse because men have the same reasoning and fears of not approaching but we have no choice | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 10:01 PM |
| 1 | in theory, wouldn't women making more money be a non-issueI've heard a bunch of feminists and women for playing that they found it unattractive at their man made less money. That wasn't from some crazy patriarchal or sexist source. This was the women themselves saying they were literally sexually turned off because they made more money. You will be crazy to think that most men really care if the woman makes more than them. I've had many conversations with women in my own family about how they felt about making more money than a man and it always was a … | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 08:47 PM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolYour logic is Far From Reality, especially you think that men expressing interest in a woman does not result in some type of shame or back last. I'm in historically are seen as hyper dangerous and are sexuality is always been seen as something either disgusting or dangerous to women. Why do you think there's so much Social coding around the man's conduct When approaching a woman. Because so many things he can do could be perceived as creepy or strange. I don't doubt most of that stuff happens wh… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 08:43 PM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolYou didn't answer any of my questions. You make it seem like getting caught insulted some help to make stuff approaching which I'm trying to call out. By your logic I was never supposed to approach any woman because of all the gendered insults long at me. I'm not excusing women being called s**** or slags. But you didn't call horrible names it's not an excuse just to stay idle, imaginative men throughout history stopped approaching women because they were called bad names | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 08:31 PM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolClearly tons of people worry about it otherwise they sub would not exist. Whenever I argue on the sub I always give people if you're telling me that I hear nicely as a means to shut me up. I'm not saying you have to agree with what I'm saying but telling someone just to go there because you can't have an argument doesn't make you look good | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 08:26 PM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolBeing called all those things would not matter approaching because men and women are called all types of things and still go out and date. I get women have a lot of your approaching them but so much of their fears can easily be seen as excuses because men have the same type of fears when it comes to approaching women outside of maybe physical violence. So many girls will tell me that they feel too nervous or feel like XY and z or they'll be looked at ASAP and see if they approach guys but in my … | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 08:25 PM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolWhy do you all keep suggesting therapy when someone has a legitimate claim or complaint. I have been there before work on it much better now years later but that does not make what I say any less wrong even if I wasn't therapy | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 08:23 PM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolI agree with you but that does not absolve anybody whether they be male or female or feminist or not from exuding the exact same unconscious bias this way pertains to men and money. My biggest criticism of feminist is that while I agree with the theories I really don't agree that those so Proclaim feminists really not really that understanding of intersectionality and all the truths and crossing of social skills and biases that happened with each and every interaction. Keep in mind it's anybody'… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 07:56 PM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolOf course not but it has so many crazy influences on our language especially pertaining to dating and sex that is almost inevitable that some type of feminist talking point shows up whenever love and dating is discussed. I've heard some people have the nerve to even say that men feel threatened for making less money because of toxic masculinity, almost as if there is no real world application that shame men for making less money. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 07:51 PM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolThe fact that men are told that they have to talk to women a certain way suggest that we are just that different and whoever's faulted is really does not matter. Women don't have to approach men as much because they just don't have to. And men have to approach tons of women because it's almost a necessity. I myself had two days playing with two different women one week because I have enough experience to know that sometimes you will be flaked out on. Men can I just command Desire with their body… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 07:49 PM |
| 2 | in theory, wouldn't women making more money be a non-issueAlso this suggest a switch and rolls but what I really would like to see is just these roles disappearing and not being thought of as such. I'm telling you the most healthy relationship I am witnessing right now is my cousin's marriage we're both of them living in apartments so there's not much yard work but they both do equal amount of chores and housework and such and they both make around relative money. I will find it hard to believe the relationship breaking down if one of them somehow make… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 05:38 AM |
| 0 | in theory, wouldn't women making more money be a non-issueI get that, and I get what you mean. I get chores is a very controversial one though because even in my own household I was the only man and I really think it is just something that a stereotypical. Like it'll be crazy for me as a man to list all the crazy hardware and yard things that my female counterparts do not do. I'm not saying that anybody should just be a slob or anyone not be appreciative of what anybody does, but I just think so many reasons for these types of breakups are just too sha… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 05:37 AM |
| 2 | in theory, wouldn't women making more money be a non-issueI have dated a lot of older women myself, and I've also dated women that were around my age. It just seems so strange to me because in reality all I see are couples that are both working. I know statistically men are going to make more money based off of a whole bunch of factors but most people are living paycheck to paycheck and most Americans make under $50,000 I believe, last time I checked. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 05:33 AM |
| 2 | in theory, wouldn't women making more money be a non-issueOther commenter and other people I know will suggest the opposite, I also know a lot of women that will say that they are turned off if the guy makes less money. In my own real life I see mostly couples that both work In my own personal opinion I find it's very disheartening that money has become such a disqualifying or inqualifier. Our grandparents great grandparents fought in wars and worked for scraps and still managed to stay together. We're facing some of the most crazy Economic Times ever … | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 05:26 AM |
| 3 | in theory, wouldn't women making more money be a non-issueOkay but both sides you would have some great issue pertaining to something biological. I refuse to conform and I hate this idea of we being that much biologically different, but at some point I can't ignore reality either. Mating crisis and women making more money on paper should not be a problem for either sex. On the manosphere side they'll say it's because women are just inherently different and want the man to inherently be a breadwinner therefore they're turned off by men who make less mon… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 05:23 AM |
| 2 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolI asked you as a professional, I think it is a chicken and egg day but Do you think perception of people are large swabs of people can have a mental effect ? of which we do have evidence of? Being a black man I remember as a kid people would just talk down to me as if I did not understand them. And I understood why they would do that. And at that young age it wasn't hard even though I was still very immature. I was young. I was black. And I was a boy. Viewed as very rowdy, rambunctious immature,… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 05:13 AM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolSo we are biologically different? | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 05:08 AM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolWhen women making more money be a non issue, Why is it that women becoming more educated and making more money such a issue in dating. Are men more threatened by it or the women not like it when men like less money? I literally hear both sides of the debate scream this but I literally see couples who both work all the time. I really don't think it matters who makes more at this point in 2023 | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 04:58 AM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolIf women making more money and becoming college educated is such a barrier that doesn't that suggest that it's the women that are attracted to the men. And I get it but they are basing their criteria still on old style 1950 stuff like income and houses and cars and stuff. In theory wasn't all that stuff not matter since the women would make the money anyway | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 04:53 AM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolYou feel so crazy because it's basically blows into the face of what feminism is then. How can there be no gender roles and how can we as a society act on not trying to be a traditional when the women are literally still picking the men based off of Old standards. It's ironic, because you would think that women making more money than men would be no problem, but it's the women that are unattracted to the men that are making less money. And a super equalized and feminist world I've always found t… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 04:52 AM |
| 2 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolOur society is doing a good job at bringing attention to mental health and I'm glad for that but what we're seeing is going to be looked at very differently for the individual. To give you a good example and to why I hate how both sides glamorize this type of thing. Because I am a big black man I have been looked at as both masculine and feminine for almost the same reasons depending on who is looking at me. I've been called masculine and have had unearned respect from both men and women just of… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 04:50 AM |
| -1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolMost people have all that anyway but the problem comes when you are a man if that's always expected of you and even when you fulfill all those embodiments, you're still subject to being emasculated or made fun of. This is why I feel like there needs to be some Middle Ground alternative to make feminism and men's rights because both sides get masculinity and young men's experiences so wrong. I'm a big black dude. And because of that I have experienced both getting unearned respect on perceived ma… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 04:31 AM |
| 1 | Bad RP dating mantra: The woman is acting like an asshole because you're not assertive/masculine enough. Her shitty behavior is on you, somehow.And like I said before if you read it, I have been in the same environment when I've been trying to get at a girl who gives me that nuclear rejection. I'm the same man with the same traits. In the same environment there was another girl who gladly accepted my number and was super into me. There was no change in me or how I moved but you can see how two different women viewed me into very different ways. I really believe that the assumption that every guy is just some crazy dude who doesn't know … | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Bad RP dating mantra: The woman is acting like an asshole because you're not assertive/masculine enough. Her shitty behavior is on you, somehow.And this is why I hate when there was assumptions come because you assume that I'm saying something to women that I talk to and you're assuming that I'm talking to women all the time. I actually just got done dating a girl who's been in a terrible abusive relationship. I've been on both sides of this as well so I understand. I had to leave her because I don't want to be the cause of her getting hurt nor do I want to be the guy to play second fiddle. Ironically this girl called me masculine becau… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 03:40 AM |
| 1 | Bad RP dating mantra: The woman is acting like an asshole because you're not assertive/masculine enough. Her shitty behavior is on you, somehow.I'm not comparing it but I'm comparing the false logic you're using. You say that people should not care about personal feelings but then go right into talking about how rejection is an existential crisis for women. You say that in this weird way because you're implying that I should care. What makes you think I have not done any positive changes in my life? Just because I'm saying something that may offend or not being agreeing to what you're saying does not mean that I am just sitting at home … | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 03:39 AM |
| 0 | Bad RP dating mantra: The woman is acting like an asshole because you're not assertive/masculine enough. Her shitty behavior is on you, somehow.And once again bro I get it but the other side of this logic is also just as this ingenious comma inaccurate and downright hateful. Do you not see the contradiction in yourself telling me not to care about people's feelings but now you're telling me that men caring about rejection is much more existential for women, which is kind of implying that there should be more care about how women feel and our society does because otherwise feminism would have never took an off. So physically speaking mos… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 03:35 AM |
| 0 | Bad RP dating mantra: The woman is acting like an asshole because you're not assertive/masculine enough. Her shitty behavior is on you, somehow.Actually as I get older I'm starting to believe that there is some type of collective responsibility for all things as humans because if it wasn't then we wouldn't be having this kind of conversation nor will we be seeing the type of politics going on in the real world. You sound like a men's rights activist talking to a feminist if we were to analyze your text outside of context. How many times has a woman been told exactly this whenever she stays grievances towards a man or his behavior. How m… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 03:29 AM |
| 0 | Bad RP dating mantra: The woman is acting like an asshole because you're not assertive/masculine enough. Her shitty behavior is on you, somehow.And now I'm confused because so much of the discourse I have been involved with in red tells me that it's actually the opposite even though I am agreeing with you. No one is responsible for your feelings but I do believe there is some type of responsibility as humans to at least think about how we respond to people and what we may project onto them. It's crazy because you don't know how I have told my female friends that while I empathize with their fear of men, that no man really is responsible… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 03:27 AM |
| 0 | Men of Ex redpill, how do honestly view woman?But for the fact that so many men can literally be repelled called the worst things ever but on the next day find a woman that is attracted to them for this very same traits kind of proves that maybe women need to change their criteria or attitude about men. I've been on both sides of this and this is why it's so frustrating. Anytime there is a problem with both genders it always seems like it's automatically the man's fault. Even right now with the numbers of men leaving society and dating is s… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 03:25 AM |
| 0 | Bad RP dating mantra: The woman is acting like an asshole because you're not assertive/masculine enough. Her shitty behavior is on you, somehow.My point is the respect and empathy. And it works in cycles. As a woman I can understand from best standpoint it looks like a man's ego but that's because most women don't have to deal with this type of thing. It doesn't make what they go through any better or worse but when you're the gender that constantly has to go out and put your self-esteem and self-respect on the line, I think you do have a right to be a little bit upset or frustrated especially if someone takes your intentions the wrong … | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 03:21 AM |
| 0 | Bad RP dating mantra: The woman is acting like an asshole because you're not assertive/masculine enough. Her shitty behavior is on you, somehow.Just as women hate male locker room talk. Men don't like it much either. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 03:12 AM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolExactly, that is exactly what I'm hoping for and maybe we'll actually see more honesty when it comes to dating, gender and gender roles. Especially what most men and women are attracted to and why | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 03:11 AM |
| 0 | Bad RP dating mantra: The woman is acting like an asshole because you're not assertive/masculine enough. Her shitty behavior is on you, somehow.The fact that you see it as ego instead of just common decency or more understanding is why it gets so frustrating. It's one thing to be rejected. But if your nuclear rejected for no reason or rejected all the stuff that is accurate then you would be a little upset because it doesn't affirm you nor does it take accurately you and what you are. At the same time that's usually why most rejections happen is because it's impossible for most people to know exactly everything about someone else. That'… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 03:09 AM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolIt's applying to man but it's because of our biology and right now I hate that reasoning but there seems to be no other reasoning that makes sense. That's the reason why more men are sought after to get women is because that's the really the only way too. If every man just decided to not go after any woman been really nothing would change as eventually there will be a small number of men who who do in those men will get more options. Women like men too of course the women have never really had t… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 03:07 AM |
| 0 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolI thought about writing a book because I hate how much both sides of the debate not only can the male experience so so wrong but for the fact that these conversations get this way because of how much misinformation goes on with both sides. I really do believe that most well many feminist / women give men bad advice because they are trying to protect hypothetical women that these men may creep out or put on it with their sexuality. Now approach women is always been looked at with a change of dang… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 02:49 AM |
| 0 | Bad RP dating mantra: The woman is acting like an asshole because you're not assertive/masculine enough. Her shitty behavior is on you, somehow.But this becomes a problem because I don't think there's any excuse to reject the man in a rude or f***** up way unless he is really being a great but I find it way too many young women Revel into nuclear rejecting men | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 02:37 AM |
| 1 | After leaving redpill and fully recovering do you think that it’s possible for them to convince you to be redpill again?Just because you can debunk something doesn't mean that you are correct or what you are using to debunk it is correct. This is the same trappings that so many white supremacists get into thinking when they think they have found some information that debunks racism existing. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 02:35 AM |
| -4 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolAnd even still, if men still need traditional masculine traits then that kind of proves that feminism is BS right? | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 02:34 AM |
| 1 | masculinity and femininity is a matter of perceptionWhich is why I both love and hate this sub because I hate the red pill and I would love to find something that proves me wrong, but if the red pill is not only getting me more attention with the opposite sex despite having horrible traits then of course I and other men are still going to do it. The nice guy doesn't become angry in a vacuum. They usually becomes that way after years of getting abused and still putting on the best foot with best intentions. We can't scream to the heavens about how… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 02:33 AM |
| 0 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolAnd once again bro you're kind of proving my point because, so here to be more social and open emotionally are usually the first ones who are made fun of. I remember when I was younger I was always pretty socially aware, but that did not stop any bullying or rejection from happening | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 02:31 AM |
| -2 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolIt is because women have such a powerful privileged socially is why they are looked at more socially and not as socially stunted. A girl being nervous is not going to be looked at as socially disadvantages versus a dude who is the same exact level of nervousness and has the same traits as the aforementioned girl if you don't take into account their gender. Most of these men have a pretty good balance of being emotionally healthy and having whatever traditional masculine trait you can think of. M… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 02:30 AM |
| 0 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolI agree up to a point. I do agree with a lot of people that everyone is different and what is considered attractive it's going to be looked at is very different. Which is why I keep giving you my personal experience. I'm very much a nice nerdy dude but I have been perceived as both an alpha and a beta based off of BS projection from both men and women. It doesn't matter how good a social skills are and does a person, if someone else is already projected a standard on to you and has decided menta… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 02:28 AM |
| -3 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolWhat I'm saying is that despite both men and women frustratingly clicking on to the idea that we are more egalitarian and equal, it is clear by both men and women's experiences and thought patterns and conversations that there seems to be a problem in expectations and what is expected of each gender. Right now men are very much struggling more than women so the idea is that men should have dating classes in school to help prepare them when they are young adults and updating age. I never cared pe… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 02:09 AM |
| -3 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolDespite the hysteria both men and women have pretty even levels of Competency in social skills but dating is inherently a rule out type of thing. For example an average man is completely okay on paper but the average woman may not be attracted to him because his levels of Competency as lacking. That doesn't mean that he really is lacking as is this one person's projection of thought onto him. But that mechanism is exactly what women use when they do date. How many times have you heard that girls… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 02:07 AM |
| 1 | there should be mandatory dating classes for young men in schoolI guess what I mean is that, it's clear that our modern ways of thinking and doing are not good for relationships. Men complain about not finding anybody and women complain about not finding the right man. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 01:35 AM |
| – | Is this a common and prevalent problem, or is it just another case of confirmation bias?We could easily say the same about any woman who complaints about a toxic man, and notice this type of Extra Protection and excuse making whenever it comes to women's bad behavior, so many girls are immature and despite what they say about emotional maturity seem to lack of themselves I think that's what a lot of men are trying to say. Men are told so many platitudes like having a personality is gaining social intelligence, and they say it as if women are just more inherently socially in tune an… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 01:34 AM |
| 1 | I legitimately hate men now and am heartbrokenThis is probably the one thing that creates both rabbit feminist and red pill nice guys. All it takes is one or two or a couple of bad interactions with the opposite sex to send men or women down a spiral of gender hatred. Which is why I empathize with a lot of young women but I do to the point because I don't want their experience thinking that that excuses them of committing the exact same type of hatred and ignorance towards men. I grew up by mostly abused women so I understand where this lin… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 01:16 AM |
| 0 | how social where you are has nothing to do with your success and date and I hate that both sides make it soI became an anti-feminist because of the painting me as a toxic Man based off of other men but with a heavy hint of racism and just outright unfair and inaccurate accusations. Especially when I kept finding that my own live experience in other men's completely lived up to and lined up to with a lot of feminist theories about intersectionality and gender rolls. It could be argued that men having to continuously be the first ones to initiate and to make a woman feel safe is very much rooted in tra… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 12:44 AM |
| 1 | masculinity and femininity is a matter of perceptionAt the same time if masculinity and femininity are not subjective then you can understand that that does make feminism and this entire sub by extension not really believable when it comes to credibility. Like we can just abandon feminist theories when we want to attack one group or one ideology. I've heard so many feminists off traditional or red pill talking points whenever it did benefit them My very existence should tell you it is subjective because even though so many people perceive me as m… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 12:14 AM |
| 0 | how social where you are has nothing to do with your success and date and I hate that both sides make it soActually unless you're in the top 10% most men throughout history where in the underclass and I get what you mean about people still having power and privileges, but compared to the 10%. These men had almost little to no power And once again when you are already on the class and received as underclass to the point where you are made fun of or brutalized, you don't want to be compared to the top 10% of men that really do embody toxic masculinity and Power I think it's too easy just to excuse a lo… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 12:10 AM |
| 0 | how social where you are has nothing to do with your success and date and I hate that both sides make it soAnd this is why we need to take people's advice with a grain of salt because I understand you and I I can empathize with your experience but being a girl you really don't understand what it's like being on the other side. Men have almost no choice but to continuously get on women. I did not get success with any female until I finally stop being scared of what they thought or if I came off as a creep When approaching. Every girl swears that approaching them does not work but the girls never menti… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 12:07 AM |
| 0 | how social where you are has nothing to do with your success and date and I hate that both sides make it soMost involuntary celebrations just like you before they go the other way and I agree with you but the problem comes when that form of masculinity is also rejected or made fun of or looked at as week. Believe me bro I'm official artist so I have no qualms about expressing myself and whatever fashion but you can imagine my surprise when being myself constantly made other people question me socially. Basically what I'm saying is it doesn't matter how much the man understands all this, unless it act… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 12:06 AM |
| 2 | men go to the red pill because the Alternatives don't work or lead to going down a bad pathIs it strange to say that I don't want them but in its own way I'm pretty sure it'll make me at least 35% more attractive. I already have the street look without even trying. | /r/ExRedPill | 13/03/23 12:28 AM |
| 3 | men go to the red pill because the Alternatives don't work or lead to going down a bad pathI wouldn't call The Red Pill Male victimhood any more than I would call feminism female victimhood because that becomes a slippery slope and is a little bit disrespectful or disingenuous at best. I'm actually glad I went through both sides because it allows me to analyze both sides. We are living in a strange time where gender roles are changing but it seems like our inner biology isn't changing as quickly and thus creates a lot of confusion on what's considered acceptable behavior, from both si… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/03/23 11:59 PM |
| 2 | men go to the red pill because the Alternatives don't work or lead to going down a bad pathOh bro I completely get it and that's why I hate the red pill too is because case it's on basically men having to be extra perfect and never letting their guard down but when you look around and see other relationships and other men you kind of know that it's bs. But you completely understand why the red pill did emerge. So many things Society / women / women is told to young men that were supposed to work at dating either did not work or backfired. I've dated both white and black and from white… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/03/23 07:52 PM |
| 1 | men go to the red pill because the Alternatives don't work or lead to going down a bad pathI completely agree and that's a part of it. Peer pressure is very strong and a lot of us don't realize that we cave into it and contribute to bullying racism homophobia in other types of stuff are Society hates and it's easy to do because socializing isn't really rational and human beings are probably at the most irrational when we are socializing with each other. I've had both male and female friends do crazy stuff in front of me that I know they would not do if it was just me and them alone, b… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/03/23 07:49 PM |
| -1 | men go to the red pill because the Alternatives don't work or lead to going down a bad pathThat's because stuff that's not red pill usually does not work in exactly the same thing that leads men to the red pill. I say this as a man who's been on both sides so many different times So much is what's considered attractive in me and already it's coded with traditional masculinity and that has always kind of turned me off of dating a general and it's hard to find a girl that isn't attracted to that type of dude or at least understands men's issues. From the age of 15 to 21 I was blue pill … | /r/ExRedPill | 12/03/23 07:26 PM |
| 1 | men go to the red pill because the Alternatives don't work or lead to going down a bad pathI'll get what you mean that's I've been on both sides but once again one would think that feminist might be the easiest to date but I've been on page for so many women who will self-proclaim they are feminists only to give me some type of sexist diatribe against men,. Now at the same time everyone's human and everyone's allowed to get frustrations but the way these girls few men and the language they use kind of tell me that they aren't really as feminist as they think they are. And once again a… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/03/23 07:22 PM |
| 1 | men go to the red pill because the Alternatives don't work or lead to going down a bad pathAlso something else we have to consider is what people project on because usually it's none of our business and doesn't begin with us. You may have done well with a certain amount of women at a certain amount of time, but that does not mean other men doing the exact same thing as you or even having the same temperament, are going to have the same results with one. I have to keep stressing this because it flies in so much of the advice but when I was at my most healthy mentally and at my most ega… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/03/23 06:53 PM |
| 1 | men go to the red pill because the Alternatives don't work or lead to going down a bad pathBut that's the problem is that there are still so many large swaps of women that still do very much project toxic masculine Norms onto men and if they don't live up to those storms then they're usually rejected, bullied or put down. I've been on both sides of this, and that was the one thing that was always frustrating is when you're on a date with a very Progressive minded woman, but she very much still believes in and contributes to toxic masculinity especially in her thinking and in her mate … | /r/ExRedPill | 12/03/23 06:45 PM |
| 1 | men go to the red pill because the Alternatives don't work or lead to going down a bad pathAnd that to me is wearing is the most confusing and disingenuous whenever we have discussions on gender gender roles and sexuality because from the men's point of view this is exactly what we've been trying to tell the women. Believe me I wish that both men and women would be more free not only in their expression but what they are traditionally attracted to but this is the biggest reason why so many men have a problem with feminism. Most women feminist or not are still very much attracted to th… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/03/23 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Is it actually critical to maintain “masculine frame”?Almost everything you listed though I can name 10 to 12 women in my life who are exactly like this and expect them to just pick up their pieces and I don't think a lot of women are really self aware that they do do this but hold them into the different standard | /r/ExRedPill | 12/03/23 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Is it actually critical to maintain “masculine frame”?In my opinion this could be a problem also because nobody wants to have their entire personality policed and I think a big reason why men are so grievanced is because it really does feel like men cannot devote the way they would wish to and if they do they're usually rejected or made fun of | /r/ExRedPill | 12/03/23 05:03 PM |
| 6 | who are some male heroes from history that you admire?Too many. Mlk. FDR. John Brown. Spartacus. Frederick Douglas | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/03/23 03:09 PM |
| 43 | Looking for a good quality essay about the "gay friend" phenomenon, treating gays as a women's accessory sidekick and the general emphasis of embracing feminity by men as a way of their obeisance.Gay male friends are great accessories to women because they can still get attention and compliments at friendship from a man but because he's a gay man he's either seen as lacking masculinity that is being dangerous or because he is gay then there is no sexual threat to that woman whether it be great or unwanted attention from a man they would view as undesirable. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/03/23 04:00 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Telling unsuccesful men that the young women in impoverished countries only want them for their money is pointless, these men believe that women their age in their country are the same. And we can't blame them.Honestly our relationships are based on unequal power balances but I do believe it is just better for both the men and the woman if the man has more power because despite women saying that they're okay with leading a man and being okay being the breadwinner or paying for the date, there seems to be this consensus that whenever a man is okay with that or is okay with not being dominant or alpha or whatever it's always the woman either making fun of him or losing attraction for him. Think about ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 05:34 PM |
| 2 | Almost anything a man does can screw him over in datingAs a guy who's done this I think the biggest frustration comes from when you put 100% effort into trying to make yourself better or even loving yourself but you still find yourself going home alone. At least that's where I find myself right now because I have had some successes but I still get to find a girl that I can actually click with, and it makes me question whether or not something is really wrong with me or if I did not work hard enough or on the right type of thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 10:01 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Telling unsuccesful men that the young women in impoverished countries only want them for their money is pointless, these men believe that women their age in their country are the same. And we can't blame them.I think this is one part of it but it's mainly the respect and actually understanding that this man has no choice but to play a certain role especially if these traits in that role or something that women are universally attracted to and thus if a man fulfills this then at least on the woman's and she could at least try to respect him. I'm not saying bow down to a man and become his slave but if you can recognize that this man is your equal and even more so that if he is financially paying off m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 01:10 AM |
| 1 | It's exhausting to make female friendsI'm telling you from a guy's perspective it's just too easy to think that you're not playing a role in it because nine times out of 10 I bet if I asked all your male friends they're half of the story, they may tell me that you may have played them or let them on or acted like you wanted to date them but didn't, and believe me I know it's not always all the time but whenever it comes to the social dance between men and women we just automatically assume that the woman is always right it's wrong b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Modern dating is like a housing bubbleThat I can respect that because that's the same reason I was single for a long time but I think there comes a certain point where we have to look at ourselves and ask ourselves if we really have standards because we really do care about them or if they're used for some type of protection or to guard against criticism or bad choices Nobody's perfect and both men and women have lost and that was something that helped me get out and date women a little bit more was realizing that the girl in front … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Modern dating is like a housing bubbleBut the problem is in the main difference it seems between men and women is that men can't afford to have these standards because otherwise they will actually stay in their houses and not have any success with any woman. Believe me I used to have my own standards and I stood by them until I realized I was turning 20 then 21 then 22 and realizing that I'm still single | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 04:13 PM |
| 1 | It's exhausting to make female friendsI don't think a lot of them in a really self-aware about the part they play in this also because girls are notorious for not being true to their own feelings and there are so many women that will sling a man along and put him in a friend zone on purpose because they don't have the courage to actually tell the guy that they're not interested or that they want to be single. But even though you're not dating this said guy in the front Zone you're still getting attention and validation Whenever I he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 03:43 PM |
| 1 | It's exhausting to make female friendsHonestly if you view men and your male friends in this way I really do think you shouldn't because you keep giving us generalizations and stereotypes. Not every dude wants to sleep with every woman and not every male friend wants to sleep with all his female friends. You don't know how many female friends I have had that just assumed that was hitting on them just because I was a man, and it kind of tells me that they themselves hold certain biases against men that they really need to think about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 03:40 PM |
| 1 | What do the two genders gain from even engaging with each other?I agree but you can kind of see my point with a double standards because when women criticize men in a very humanizing way, no one ever puts a stop to it or even recognizes that it is defamation, it's almost seen as normal just to put men at fault by default | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 03:39 PM |
| 1 | What do the two genders gain from even engaging with each other?Careful with this because just because you're getting criticized by a man doesn't mean he's being sexist really be valid criticism but because misogyny is such a buzz word now, most men can't criticize women's bad behavior | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:52 PM |
| 1 | It's exhausting to make female friendsAnd this is what makes the stereotype worse is that just because you have had a male friend like this doesn't mean it's the case all the time and like the lp I have been on the opposite ends where I have been completely neutral in trying to make friends with women without romantic interest, and they themselves turned it into something like me trying to get at them. I don't really think most guys enter friendships trying to have more but I do think a lot of girls do protect this type of thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:42 PM |
| 10 | What about the Working Man?I agree with you and as cliche as it sounds all of this does not really make me want to contribute to society or to socialize with people just because you already know what is expected of men and you wonder if most people even care. And the greatest irony of life is that manhood is a performance and it is a perception, and what I mean by that is you could be the smartest or strongest or richest man ever and people will still find something about you to be emasculated or put down with. I don't re… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/23 02:44 PM |
| 2 | where do artistic men fit in all of thisCan u elaborate | /r/MensRights | 18/01/23 06:25 AM |
| 5 | where do artistic men fit in all of thisThank you for your service. My family is full of vets. I feel you bro and thank you for sharing your story, and you are right in the way that it's a crazy mind thing. I once met a Korean war vet. He was literally a prisoner of war and by chance he survived when he was rescued. He said it's shook him up a lot and that makes total sense given the circumstances he was in, He said " I couldn't talk about it because they would have called me a sissy." For one thing, I understand it this man was most … | /r/MensRights | 18/01/23 06:23 AM |
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