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I mean everyone is a hypocrite in some way, but that doesn't make it good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:20 AM
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Because they say that most men aren't bad and that bad men are really rare when it suits them politically- but say the exact opposite to their own sisters/daughters because they "know how men are." I think that the real truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:09 AM
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What does being attractive have to do with being a rapist/abusive or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:41 AM
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I get what you're saying, but I think a lot of it is actually that they're afraid their daughter/sister will get raped, abused, she'll get pregnant and the man will be a deadbeat dad, etc. So part of it is actually criminal stuff. And obviously non-criminal stuff like cheating as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:40 AM
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I'm talking about them saying it in response to feminists/the blue pill, not the validity of the statement itself. Also, a lot of them literally say stuff like, "Men only want one thing," "Don't trust men," "I don't want you to date/have sex with men," etc. to their female relatives. So it's not even just about reducing risk or anything, which would be like telling them not to leave their drink unattended, walk home alone, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:29 AM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:20 AM
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I mean, I think what you're saying is largely true, but I also think there's a difference between being an independent woman and being a rapist (or otherwise unscrupulous) man. It's not like being an independent or not feminine woman is necessarily "bad," as opposed to what fathers and brothers worry men will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:11 AM
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No, just the ones who are. I think liberal men often do this too but not as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:03 AM
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Tbf a lot of them are lol. There are a lot of drug addicts/mentally ill people in Hollywood.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:14 AM
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Tbf it might be a different kind of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:29 AM
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My dad wanted to go to Hooters with me lol. (I'm a girl.) He took my brother there as a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:42 AM
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Yeah probably, but it depends on how attractive the woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:32 AM
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I don't think you're really losing value either though if it's a celebrity. At least it would be an interesting story to share in a lot of people's minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:30 AM
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How would you know if they've never met a famous man to act on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:27 AM
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Well ugly girls probably feel the same way about attractive women tbf. (Attractive women get a lot of advantages from their looks.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:25 AM
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I must have low standards because I don't really care about any of that if I think a celebrity is handsome and I'm a fan of him lol. But maybe I'm projecting. Unless he is a straight-up child molester or murderer, I probably wouldn't care too much about most things lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:22 AM
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They probably just don't have to worry about being called creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:16 AM
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What standards do you mean? Like morals?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:15 AM
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but I'd rather not be disrespected/dehumanized and have my business shared with his entire friend group 💀. I mean you have a point, but it's not like rockstars wouldn't do this too. It's not like rockstars are exactly known for respecting women lol. So I don't think that explains it fully.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:04 AM
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I should've specified, "Famous people someone is attracted to/a fan of." Not like Danny Devito lol (although he probably gets groupies too lmao). But like rockstars, sports players, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:59 AM
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Yeah that's what I was thinking. But maybe occasionally some of them have groupies? I wonder if there are any famous women that do that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:08 PM
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Not always. A lot of the groupies are just normal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:57 AM
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What if she is young? Also, you are saying that like poor people aren't "normal." It just comes off as pretty classist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:37 AM
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True, but there are some naturally beautiful women or middle-class women (not necessarily "rich") who pay for plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:36 AM
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Redpill men always talk about how women have it easy and how they wish they could get sex as easily as the average women can. Maybe not you specifically, but I've seen that sentiment a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:54 AM
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What about people who live in the ghetto lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:54 AM
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How is watching porn not masculine?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:52 AM
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Probably true except for rare exceptions. But my point was that being more promiscuous doesn't necessarily mean that you're more attractive, male or female. You could be a handsome shy guy and a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:42 AM
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Women also do a lot of unpaid labor and make less money on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:39 AM
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You said most divorces are initiated by women, but that doesn't apply to people who aren't married.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:38 AM
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What about people who weren't married when they had kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:16 AM
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I mean obviously the answer is no. But that analogy implies that women have power over men. How is that true? Women can't force men to date them (with few exceptions).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 11:03 PM
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So basically it's an in-group bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:54 PM
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Why do you see women as the ones hiring? Is it because men usually have a higher sex drive? I don't see how that's women's fault though or something that could be changed. Should women take steroids so they have a higher sex drive lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:50 PM
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Ok at least you are consistent. I don't have a problem with that. I was mostly talking about the people who aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:14 PM
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People value honesty so men saying he like round tits and firm ass is seen as good because it's honest, women don't say honestly what they want so hence they shift it there's criticism. Yet if women say that they only want tall men on dating apps, a bunch of men complain. (I agree that having a restrictive height preference is dumb, but that's their choice.) ok and what else? Outside lust and anger what else? How are lust and anger not emotions? Men act on those all the time. Men often behave mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:08 PM
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Isn't that also true for women? You could say that about any group basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:39 PM
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I know men have a higher sex drive on average, which makes them more desperate and less selective. But this doesn't mean that they still can't control their actions. (Like there are some men who choose to be celibate or are selective in who they date.) But that's just on average. There are women with high sex drives and men with low sex drives. Would you excuse a woman being slutty if she had a high sex drive? It seems like most redpillers wouldn't since they seem to dislike slutty women regardl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:36 PM
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Women get a lot of flak from RP because they are ultimately the bottleneck in dating and unilaterally control the direction (if sex, dates, relationships happen) barring grape, SA, etc. This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. Unless women are mass raping men (which I don't think is happening), how do they control dating/sex? I don't understand this line of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:58 PM
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women on the other hand don't want to be part of a harem There are probably some people out there who are fine with that. I don't think most women are part of a harem anyway. Most people are monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:40 PM
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People act on incentive, we are responsible for the incentives we create. I don't get to spit on prime mike tayson face and then say that he is at fault for acting violently. You're confusing actions to reactions. Yeah but you could say the same thing for women as well. I know it's a foreign concept but most people value honesty and despise being lied to. Wdym by this? What do you even means? Redpillers often say that women are irrational and act based on feelings, but men do the same thing with…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:36 PM
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I mean, in a free society, you can only really hold yourself accountable. You can't really control other people's behavior unless you resort to drastic measures. Like are they gonna imprison women for dressing slutty?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:16 PM
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I think it means held accountable for bad dating choices. I'm not sure honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:13 PM
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Wdym by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:10 PM
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So are they basically just trying to do the opposite of what they complain about to overcorrect it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:06 PM
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I mean women who are crack addicts and trashy get more sex. That doesn't mean anything. Having more sex doesn't necessarily mean that you're more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:20 PM
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Idk why ur being so abrasive for no reason but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:20 AM
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I think people often assume that it's predatory for older men to go after young women because they assume that they are usually going after them because they're naive and easy to manipulate. (Whether this is actually true or not, I'm not sure honestly.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:10 AM
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I think part of why society sees it that way (not saying it's fair) is because the older person is usually the predatory one in the relationship. I guess you could make an argument for an exception, like the young person is the one taking advantage of the old person by being a gold-digger, but that's usually not how people see it. BTW, I'm talking about significant age gaps- not like 5 years or something. As to why older women often aren't seen as as creepy for dating younger men (although they …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:38 AM
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I think young women who date old men are also looked down upon. (People say that they are gold-diggers, have daddy issues, etc.) Same with old women who date young men. (A lot of people were hating on the reality show MILF Manor and calling it creepy and stuff.) So it's not like it's just men being looked down upon or considered creepy for doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:49 AM
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Yeah but my post was basically asking about what makes a woman feminine or masculine (or vice versa for men). What does being fat have to do with specific standards for men or women? Are you saying that women are attracted to fat men? Because on average, they probably don't like fat men as much as men don't like fat women. In fact, it's probably even less considering there is a sizable minority of men out there who even have a preference for thick/fat women (BBW), but I don't see as many women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:21 AM
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I guess so, but if they're a serial killer then they don't have good personalities by definition... Unless maybe you would technically consider someone like a military veteran a "serial killer" by definition. Or maybe someone like a vigilante who kills child molesters or something (but I've never heard of that happening in real life). But by "serial killer," I think of someone who kills random people just for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:28 PM
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Isn't that like average?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:32 PM
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Who says serial killers aren't kind or of good character? Wha?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:32 PM
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Do you mean me or him?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:58 PM
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The first one makes sense, although I guess that could also apply to masculine women/men too (albeit masculinity is often associated with aggression). But what does being fat have to do with being feminine or masculine? Can't either men or women be fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:52 PM
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He cited the study in the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:46 AM
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He said less sociosexually restricted, which is a fancy way of saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:46 AM
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Isn't that another way of saying easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:44 AM
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I think it's about men assuming it whether it's actually true or not. Tattoos are often associated with being trashy or slutty for whatever reason. (I think probably because getting a tattoo is often a risky or impulsive decision.) Although, I think having tattoos is seen as more normal nowadays compared to in the past, especially for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:31 PM
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Wouldn't a woman who's easier to get also be more likely to cheat, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:01 PM
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Couldn't a woman (or man) be really attractive physically but just have mental problems or a drug addiction that could make her "easy"? Or it's just her personality? I feel like most porn stars or strippers would probably fall into this category. (Most porn stars were probably promiscuous before the porn.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:57 PM
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Couldn't you be attractive and also easy? It claimed that men find women with tattoos slightly less attractive, but the difference was small.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:45 PM
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People often say that men are visual and value looks more. Do you think this contradicts that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:42 PM
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Most women have borderline traits or other mental issues? Hopefully not lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:13 AM
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Ok there are a lot of them, so I will only reply to ones I have grievances with. On PornHub, women predominantly consume videos depicting violent rape and abuse of women. This only applies to women who watch porn regularly and might not represent all women. Approximately 62% of women report fantasies involving rape or forced sex acts. This doesn't mean that they actually want to be raped in real life. 50% of female porn viewers admit to watching porn involving extreme violence against women. Sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:03 AM
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I guess redpillers do this too because they seem to think that women who willingly dating toxic men are good instead of also having issues themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:38 AM
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All of them? Can you show the studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:15 AM
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Your definition of a shy girl is a girl who goes to clubs and hooks up with random men. I don't know if I can trust your opinion lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:12 AM
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I didn't say they're not. I know there are many women like that. But the point is that the women who are attracted to men like that are usually not the type you'd want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:10 AM
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Wdym? What does being self-aware have to do with being abused? I mean, she pooped in Johnny Depp's bed and cut off his finger, among other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:01 AM
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I mean, isn't that just common knowledge? Everyone prefers attractive people. Men prefer attractive women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:55 AM
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Ok but what does this have to do with my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:52 AM
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Whats the downside for me? Uh, getting abused?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:39 AM
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When did I say women are perfect and men are bad in my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:38 AM
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What do you mean by "Chad"? Do you just mean a handsome man or like a toxic man?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:35 AM
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How do you know that they're mentally stable? And did they know that the men were toxic? Because I think it's different if they were tricked or something. Also, how do they have good values if they are going after toxic men? And how are they shy if they are hooking up with random men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:31 AM
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If you can date and fuck these 'bad' women you can then also date and fuck the good women. I mean, maybe? But if you're openly toxic, that will probably attract a certain type of woman is what I'm saying. And it's probably not the most "normal" type of woman. There is absolutely no downside in being able to date and fuck with as many types of women as possible as a man. So you're saying there are no downsides to being in a toxic relationship? Would you want to date Amber Heard lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:29 AM
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You can sleep with ugly people and average/attractive people as well. They're probably just willing to sleep with basically any woman and don't really care about what she looks like that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:33 AM
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That's men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:27 AM
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I'm just saying what other people say. Don't shoot the messenger.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:16 AM
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I'm not saying that broke men are abusive myself, but if a woman dated a ghetto or white trash man, people would probably judge her if it turned out badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:15 AM
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A lot of men already do that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:13 AM
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That's literally what I'm saying. Yet many redpill men complain when women have standards like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:08 AM
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Women are naturally hairy though, and many women are taller than men. As for promiscuity, I don't think that is specific to one gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:07 AM
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So do you think being bad with money is a red flag or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:06 AM
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Not really. Do you think most hot men would want to date an ugly girl? Unless she has something to make up for it like she has an amazing personality or is rich (although men usually care less about money than women). I rarely ever see hot men with ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:11 AM
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It's not like most women are able to date hot men either though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:06 AM
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So you are fine with all other looks standards for men then? Because you could basically say the same thing for almost all of them as well. Including balding which a lot of men complain about. Basically the only things physically I can think of that can't be changed are height, medical conditions, or race.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:01 AM
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I feel like women usually have lower standards for physical attractiveness though (or more accurately, men can more easily make up for it in other ways). Like the guys who get the most women are often rich or charismatic and not necessarily the most attractive. But I feel like men don't really care as much about a woman being rich or high status or if she has a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:43 AM
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Don't a lot of men date crazy toxic women as well (just because they're hot) and complain when it goes wrong? I don't think that's really gender specific. A lot of guys even admit openly that they think crazy girls or girls with daddy issues are the hottest and best in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:37 AM
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That's interesting. I also think that women might slut-shame more than men. Maybe they don't like the competition? That's my theory. It's kind of like the equivalent of guys complaining about f boys. But I think guys are more likely to respect those kind of guys as well (compared to women).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:32 AM
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I think that's probably true. There are a lot of men who complain that women don't want to date short men, but they wouldn't date old, fat, or bald women for example. But this is probably true for women as well. There are women who only want to date rich or experienced men even when they aren't themselves. But I still feel like women don't openly complain about men's standards as much. They mostly just accept them and are more likely to blame themselves for not reaching them (from what I've seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:27 AM
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So you think it's mostly women who are against prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:20 AM
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If their standards were really low, they probably could. Also, what about prostitutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:13 AM
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The low standards these men complain about are in reference to loyalty, morals, work ethic I've seen a lot of people complain if women only want to date rich men, though? They would call them gold-diggers and stuff. As for morals, a lot of redpill men would complain if a woman had strict standards for morals, like if she refused to date men with different politics for example. (Personally, I don't really care about someone's politics IRL unless they are literally like a neo-Nazi or something.) A…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:12 AM
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It seems more like they want to be gay but aren't actually gay lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:01 AM
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That's probably true somewhat (like if you are a celebrity or something it would definitely be easier), but wouldn't it also be the same the other way around for men? Men would sleep with a lot of women that they wouldn't commit to. How is that any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:00 AM
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Yeah, but don't men do that as well? Like they wouldn't want a hairy women, even though they're hairy themselves. They wouldn't want a woman that's taller than them even if they're tall themselves. They wouldn't want a masculine woman, even though they're masculine themselves. And a lot of promiscuous men don't like promiscuous women. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:55 AM
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They do but women just require more commitment mostly and it's harder to convince us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:52 AM
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I noticed that a lot of people, specifically conservatives, who say that the school system is failing boys (which I'm not against fixing by the way) wouldn't say the same thing about black kids. They would probably just say that black people are lazy, dumb, or inferior and how it's their own fault and that they need to fix their own community. I'm not accusing you specifically of this but just a lot of the people who talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:44 AM
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You could be married and not cheating and have an abortion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:37 PM
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Wouldn't it be more like, "Men don't care if women can find a good husband/start a family or not." Because abortions are usually a choice (unless it's because of health problems or something).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:34 PM
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Wdym, premarital sex (and having kids out of wedlock) is way less stigmatized than it used to be. A lot of people don't even get legally married now before having kids. Also, I'm talking about poor people specifically, who've always had more kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:18 PM
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Kids are still way more expensive than any benefits they could get though. I don't think that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:15 PM
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There are a lot of terrible poor parents as well? It doesn't have anything to do with money. At least if you're rich, you can better afford things for your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:58 PM
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I think a lot of poor people have kids on accident, and/or it's normalized to have kids out of wedlock/young in poor communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:47 PM
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Idk why some people act like 30 is old like you become a wrinkled grandma or something. 30 is still young. Unless you are smoking meth or something you basically look the same at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:33 AM
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What taboos?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:56 PM
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You picked 2 thin, conventionally attractive white women as examples to show that men have diverse preferences... "Thicc" as in Kim Kardashian or Ashley Graham maybe, but not Lizzo or Melissa McCarthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:45 PM
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I think that's only a loud minority of people online... Most people don't really care about small age gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:35 PM
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Those women have both gotten work done and wear a lot of makeup... I mean even just Scarlett Johansson's hair is obviously fake. Also, you have got to be joking. Diversity and body positivity in men's choices? How many men are thirsting after Lizzo?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:29 PM
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True for women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:57 PM
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I don't think most men really care if women are natural or not tbh. Of course there are exceptions. But just from what I've seen. Think of how many men want their wives/girlfriends to get boob jobs and stuff. Basically every female sex symbol is not natural whatsoever. (Marilyn Monroe? Pamela Anderson? Etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:50 PM
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Showering twice a day is kind of excessive tbf. Once a day or every other day is probably best.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:46 PM
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Is this for married/monogamous men or promiscuous men, though? Because I think there is a big difference between a man being married and faithful vs. being promiscuous with a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:47 AM
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But I just explained that they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:29 AM
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I would say the same thing about a man stealing another man's girlfriend/wife. It just sounds more funny/dramatic to phrase it that way IMO. I don't even know why she did or what her reasons were. Also, I was wondering why your flair says red pill when you don't seem like you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:26 AM
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The grandpa was the homewrecker and the cheater Isn't a "homewrecker" a word for someone who knowingly dates a married person? He was a cheater, but not a homewrecker. that paragraph puts the blame solely on the woman No, I'm not solely blaming her since it was mostly his fault... I'm just phrasing it like that since she was the woman, and that's what the post is about. I've never even met my real grandpa.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:07 AM
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Most women have fewer than 10 sexual partners in their lifetimes. How is that acceptable or common? It's more socially acceptable than it used to be, but I still wouldn't consider it "acceptable."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:59 AM
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And the second a man does, the other women come to her defense about “what she does with her body is her business”. That's usually only on the internet and usually only feminist women. Also, that doesn't mean that they actually believe it. They could just be virtue signaling. But you all have a “hoe friend” or several. A lot of men have friends who are cheaters and stuff. That doesn't mean that they think it's good. Everyone has flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:56 AM
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If someone cheats (or whatever) and hides it, does that make them a better person than if they didn't hide it? The pedo thing was just an analogy to illustrate. You could say the same for murder, theft, or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:46 AM
13

So you think that we should go back to those times where cheaters were executed, or are you just stating facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:42 AM
3

Birth control has been around for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:38 AM
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Redpillers have never thought women were perfect at any period of time, that kind of belief would go against their whole shtick. They only bring up the past in an attempt to trash on feminism. They constantly talk about how the past was better and how women were more chaste. Wdym? Your grandma's best friend did not "steal" your grandpa away. Your grandpa willingly decided to cheat even though he was married, and he decided to go with his mistress, leaving his wife behind. Your grandpa is the hom…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:37 AM
1

So in other words, if someone does something bad and hides it, that makes it better? If anything, that arguably makes it worse IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:35 AM
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1- Hypergamy is probably more common when women have less financial freedom. Just look at third-world countries or the past. A lot of kings and other powerful men had a lot of concubines/mistresses and stuff. Polygyny is practiced in a lot of third-world countries. 2- Women had choices in the 70s and 80s, and they were still more promiscuous than women of this generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:32 AM
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It's called an analogy dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:26 AM
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If a woman said that she slept with like 100 people, most people would probably think that there's something wrong with her. Not to mention the women actively encouraging it Women often talk bad about promiscuous women, maybe even more so than men. They even accuse women of being promiscuous when they're not to disparage them. What do you mean? I mean honestly what do you think the approval percentage is of being a hoe? Sure, nobody wants their own daughter to be a hoe. But they’re fine with eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:24 AM
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But there's a large amount of time between the 1940s and today. What I said can still be true. women's reported number of sexual partners increased significantly between the 1970s and 2000s The pill was invented in the 60s and that was also when the sexual revolution happened, so this doesn't surprise me. I'm guessing this included women of all ages. women's sexual behavior and attitudes have become more liberal over the past few decades, with increased acceptance of premarital sex and non-monog…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:13 AM
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I don't think being a hoe is socially acceptable nowadays. It's still looked down upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:03 AM
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Yeah probably Gen X or Boomers were the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:53 AM
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I know, but I was just using that as an example. They are still doing it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:52 AM
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If you look up studies, it actually shows that past generations were MORE promiscuous. Like the rockstars and groupies I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:50 AM
4

So if someone's a pedo and hides it better that makes them a better person?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:48 AM
1

It's not grammatically incorrect to start a sentence with a conjuction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:40 AM
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I know that the pill wasn't invented until the 60s, but condoms and other birth control methods had been available for a long time. So had antibiotics. Or do you mean like before the 1900s? Do even redpillers really want to go back that far in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:37 AM
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Oh yeah I agree. But I also think that social media/reality TV is kind of unrealistic because it frequently only shows the worst people who get more attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:29 AM
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What about the 1920s flappers? Also, Marilyn Monroe was famous in the 1950s, and I wouldn't really consider her chaste. Same with a lot of other celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:27 AM
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Wdym the level of exposure?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:19 AM
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Do you think that if a couple breaks up or get divorced that one of them necessarily has to be evil? Like 50% of people get divorced. Most people have at least one break up in their life. That doesn't mean that the man was like a terrible person or anything. Maybe they just didn't get along. Most men aren't toxic or abusive. Or do you mean women whose baby daddy isn't in her kid's life at all or is in jail or something? 'Cause that's different than if they just broke up, I think. It depends on w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:13 PM
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Even if they do get dates, they could still get broken up with or cheated on. It's not just about getting rejected immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:06 PM
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Ok, dating is usually easier for attractive people. That's just reality. That doesn't mean that ugly people never find love. Look at how many ugly people are in relationships or married.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:02 PM
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Isn't the average Western person overweight though lol? And doesn't everyone have some flaws? What do you mean by "abnormalities"? Like just crooked teeth or a big nose? Or do you mean like a burn victim or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:55 PM
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Cuz he's saying that women don't want to date men they don't know super well. So I used online dating as an example to show that that's not true. But that isn't just for online dating. Also, that's not really anti-men, but more about a specific type of men. That's the whole point of this subreddit to debate stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:46 PM
0

Couldn't you use dating apps or ask out women in public, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:40 PM
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It's not really impossible. (Not saying it's easy either.) Just don't be creepy (as in talking about sex right away unless you are a celebrity or something) and try to flirt with her and get to know her. But don't wait too long to ask her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:39 PM
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"Stop cold approaching women, it's creepy, build a connection with them first." I don't personally think cold approaching women is creepy (maybe if you are creepy), but you might have a high chance of getting rejected as a man (which is fine if you can handle that). A lot of people meet that way (or at least they used to; that's how my parents met at an arcade). I'm guessing by "cold approach," you mean asking out women who are strangers in public places. Also, who really cares if all they do is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:34 PM
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The reason that going in with intentions doesn't work is that it's too heavy handed and aggressive. I don't personally think it's heavy handed or aggressive. I mean, maybe if you're being creepy. But how do dating apps work then? Maybe you could playfully flirt with her, compliment her, ask her out, etc. I'm not saying that you have to be sexual right away or anything. (If anything, that would creep a lot of women out.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:17 PM
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Well I would think that men usually go after women they personally find attractive or at least average. But if they're really desperate, then maybe not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:13 PM
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At the same time, women continously tell men they need to build a connection and get to know them first before dating Isn't the whole point of dating "getting to know someone"? If that were true, then how are dating apps (or even dating reality shows) a thing? Also, you don't have to wait so long after getting to know someone to reveal your romantic interest. I'm not saying that you should just walk up to women you don't know that well and ask them to sleep with you, but maybe ask them on a date…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:12 PM
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Yeah because approaching women while making romantic intentions known has a track record of working Well it's not gonna work every time. That's the whole point... Basically everyone (even really attractive people) gets rejected sometimes. The whole point of asking people out and dating is to find someone that you're compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:59 PM
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"Diagnosed ASPD" Yeah makes sense lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:41 PM
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I think there's a difference between talking to women and naturally having it happen and obsessively focusing all your attention on one woman in hopes that she'll eventually agree to date you (without even being obvious about your intentions). Also, as a man, you shouldn't wait so long to make your romantic feelings known. That way, both you and the woman can move on more quickly if you aren't right for each other instead of dragging it out and making her think that you're her friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:39 PM
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Ok you don't have to straight up say that you want to have sex with her right away (unless she's a prostitute)... That would be kind of creepy for most women. But I mean just flirting with her and asking her on a date. I don't mean it so literal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:31 PM
1

What about Matt Rife, John Mulaney, Colin Jost, Dane Cook, Norm Macdonald, or Eddie Murphy? There are a lot of handsome famous comedians. I think most comedians just aren't that attractive because most people in general aren't that attractive, and it's irrelevant to the job. Plus a lot of famous comedians are old, even if they looked good when they were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:45 AM
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Promiscuous men are usually lying and leading women on. Women basically just have to offer lol. Of course this is just a generalization tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:12 AM
1

I don't know if that's necessarily true; there are a lot of funny handsome men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:05 AM
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You are acting like men can't control their actions... What about men who cheat? Do you think that they can't help that? That has a bad effect on marriages and society. I could use the same excuse as well... "I can't help sleeping with Chads; it's in my nature." Lol. Women's nature isn't monogamy either. It's hypergamy, liking "bad boys," infidelity, etc. But red pillers always seem to complain about women's nature. (Not that all or even most women actually act like that since a lot have self-co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:01 AM
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Because they are all gay, yes. They have nothing to do with straight men. Not all male sex workers are gay... Who do you think makes videos with women? Porn is addictive thats why men watch porn. Not because they don't believe in their values or principles. Ok by that logic, you could say that sex is addictive and that's why women are sluts... That's not really a good excuse. And some women also watch porn. Do you think it shows good values to smoke crack as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:48 AM
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Porn? Porn is one of the biggest reasons men do not respect women. Men are the biggest audience of pornography, though. So they are encouraging it by consuming it. See the many many women on reddit and other social media that defend female porn girls, and sex workers, and act like its a legitimate way of life. They see no connection between encouraging this bad behavior, and its proliferation. You realize that there are male sex workers as well, right? Why don't conservative men talk bad about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:39 AM
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Your expectation that conservative men should act like things already are the way that they want is poorly thought out. Men acting badly affects women and society as a whole, though. Like a woman experiencing men cheating and treating women badly might cause her to become bitter toward men. A woman having a bad dad might influence her negatively in life. No one is an island. Do you agree? but I pretty much never hear women say that not respecting men is a bad thing for a woman. Conservative/trad…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:31 AM
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That might be true in some cases, but I've literally seen some men say stuff like, "Women are all whores and don't respect themselves nowadays, so you might as well use them for sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:19 AM
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You're basically describing the problem, saying that men don't have responsibility for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:17 AM
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Ok but we're not talking about paying teachers a million dollars a year... Let's be real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:36 AM
2

How to create future criminals lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:26 AM
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I would rather have tax dollars going to teachers teaching the next generation than a lot of the dumb stuff it goes to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:25 AM
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Why not just pay them both better??
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:22 AM
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I think that's usually when they start becoming bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:01 PM
1

I mean more as kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:53 PM
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It's the fact that we're told to be better men, only to see objectively worse men and women get sex and relationships. Don't that go for basically anything in life, though... I mean, how many terrible people are millionaires or billionaires while there are good people who are poor or homeless? The world has never been fair. But if the fact that the world isn't fair keeps you from being happy, then you'll literally never be happy. There will always be someone who has it better or easier than you.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:49 PM
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So, if there is no reward to being good and it comes at a cost, and no punishment for not being good but significantly less costs and many potential benefits, why should people be good? That's an interesting point, but I think that also goes for a lot of things. Like, for example, there are lots of good poor people and lots of terrible rich people. The world obviously isn't fair in this respect (although some people would like to believe that it is, the "Just World Hypothesis"). Like kids who ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:35 PM
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That's basically what I was saying. I think you misunderstood me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:25 PM
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Yeah but most people aren't promiscuous tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:50 AM
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Is it really that different from a lot of other bad things that could happen to you? Of course rape is one of the worst things that could happen to you, but so are a lot of things. Like what if your family member was murdered? Or you became very disabled? Would you just give up on life? I still think a rape survivor's life is valuable. There are people who even went through the Holocaust who still found resilience. I wouldn't blame you for feeling that way, though. I think part of the problem is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:47 AM
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Men in the past were probably even less kind, wdym.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:39 AM
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You and other people might say that, but you'd probably eventually cope with it if it happened. Not that it's not terrible. Hopefully it never happens though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:34 AM
2

Not GTA tho
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:31 AM
2

I'm bisexual, but I prefer men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:33 AM
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No for either
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:53 AM
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Average romance novel/movie lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:44 AM
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Marilyn Monroe was literally a renowned sex symbol with men. Basically all of the women that I listed are sex symbols. Megan Fox and Rihanna, at least, are very popular with men. So were Pamela Anderson and Angelina Jolie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:34 AM
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Well, it probably depends a lot on the individual woman. Maybe they are projecting their preferences onto other women. (I think men do this too, sometimes. Like how some men say that fat women are ugly, but other men are chubby chasers, for example.) Even Hitler had a wife, so it must not matter that much. (If even Hitler could find a wife, then basically anyone can.) Women are probably also less likely to admit if they actually do like bad boys since they don't want to look bad. So there is als…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:23 AM
1

I think it's safe to assume that at least murderers/rapists/child molesters are crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:02 AM
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And men never date criminal women (or would if given the chance)? There are just more criminal men out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:58 AM
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Probably not true for all women, just like there are some men that don't care that much about sex. Or they are lying to make themselves look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:56 AM
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What??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:54 AM
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Here's the difference. Women absolutely like bad boys. Why? Confidence. Bad boys get the unique position of demonstrating their confidence at all times because they get to impose their confidence on others by being assholes to others. Couldn't it also just be because they can get away with more because they are more attractive to start with (looks, money, etc.)? This seems supported by the fact that men seem to generally become more promiscuous/get more women with the more status/fame they get (…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:50 AM
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How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:24 AM
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Also Trump lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:23 AM
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It's not like most women are feminists, anyway, though. And that is only a certain section of feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:23 AM
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Schizo comment
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:19 AM
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Maybe it's just 'cause there's more abusive men, so they are statistically more likely to (just a guess).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:16 AM
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Wdym?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:14 AM
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It's not like men find all women equally attractive, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:04 AM
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In my experience, it's usually men themselves who say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:58 AM
1

I think money and status make more of a difference than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:48 AM
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I think that's kind of just a low IQ moment at that point, honestly. That's like me acting surprised that men generally like young, attractive women and will do anything to get sex. Everyone knows that unless you were literally born yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:47 AM
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I don't know; it's always been patently obvious to me that women generally like rich and famous men. It's not much of a secret. I think you'd have to be literally living under a rock to think otherwise. (Not that men are any better; they are just superficial in different ways.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:37 AM
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The woman from "Basic Instinct" is another good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:30 AM
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Men do that, too...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:29 AM
-1

So you agree with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:28 AM
1

Nobody talks about the rock stars who's family are on the bus who do story time with their kids in between sets. Are they even living the "rockstar lifestyle" at that point? That's not what rockstars are known for. I used to work backstage and the majority are really nice people Were they famous, though??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:27 AM
1

The thing is, men who act like gentleman are turned down because they are thirsty in modern times. Did they get turned down specifically because they were a gentleman, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:24 AM
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Like Amber Heard, basically. (She got Johnny Depp, although he was old and past his prime by that point.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:23 AM
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many women claim that they can sense toxicity and misogyny in men Well, I think those people are also dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:19 AM
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Uh, actually most of the famous ones that I've heard of allegedly did. (I'm a fan of rock music, so I'm not saying this to be a hater or anything. Just being honest.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:17 AM
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"Women are easy to manipulate and don't understand the concept of bad people existing" falls under "no agency". I mean, I think that both men and women can get manipulated. It's not a gendered thing. Plus, to explain away the observable differences, you would also need to assume that these factors do not apply to bad women. Men have more of a desire to be promiscuous/have higher sex drives in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:14 AM
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Like men don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:05 AM
4

I don't know anyone who's life was ruined by a rock star I don't know about that. What about the underage girls...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:05 AM
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So if women just admitted it, people would stop complaining about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:03 AM
1

with more ease than someone who does not have those traits Couldn't that also be explained by the possible reason I gave? because those men are better at/don't care about manipulating women to get what they want How would you measure that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:01 AM
0

Wdym by "sexual success", though? Do you mean they are more promiscuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:53 AM
1

The cheating is just an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:52 AM
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Both men and women are more likely to be reproductively successful when criminal; for men the effect is much higher. Both men and women are more likely to get prescribed anti-STI drugs when criminal; for men the effect is higher. Couldn't this also just be because they are more likely to be promiscuous since: 1. They don't care about manipulating women to get what they want/are more charismatic (they are psychopathic/lack empathy). 2. They don't care about social norms/are antisocial, and promis…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:49 AM
0

When did I dispute that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:41 AM
1

Never heard of it. What am I supposed to say about this? Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean no one has. Wth? What percentage of men we talk about. Do you mean what percentage of men value looks over personality or what percentage cheat, specifically? (That was also just an example to show my point.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:39 AM
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Dark triad traits are proven to be successful with women. Is that because women actively prefer those traits or because those men are better at/don't care about manipulating women to get what they want? Also, what do you mean by "successful"? Do you mean promiscuous or in a happy marriage (guessing not) or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:36 AM
5

I heard 'never put your dick in crazy' The only reason people need to say that is because men are doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:32 AM
1

I would say that it's definitely probably true for celebrities, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:53 AM
2

There is also the prenatal effect of testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:45 AM
3

Hmm... Good point. Maybe I should amend it to, "There are more seriously crazy men." It's harder to measure if someone is slightly crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:42 AM
3

The fact that there are more male criminals than female criminals is one demonstration of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:32 AM
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Mental illness is not correlated with violence. People with mental health disorders are more likely to be a victim of crime .. Depends on the mental illness. Psychopathy makes you more likely to commit crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:21 AM
1

Maybe, but I think men have always been more violent in every society, as far as I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:19 AM
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Does it matter who victimized them? Oh you have PTSD? I’m sorry that doesn’t count because a man did it. Not saying it does. But we're specifically talking about men being more violent. Most crazy people are admitted to a psych ward at one time are another. I'm not sure, honestly. Are there any stats on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:15 AM
4

Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I wonder why it's higher for bisexual men and women. I figured it would be higher for gay men than straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:13 AM
4

Hmm... Interesting theory. Possibly. I heard the same thing for IQ as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:08 AM
0

Probably just because they are more poor as a result of slavery/segregation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:00 AM
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But crazy men make up for it or even surpass women's overall craziness IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:57 AM
2

Do the statistics count bisexual women as part of lesbian relationships? I think that could affect it a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:55 AM
1

Makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:52 AM
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Yes, and - on average - people of color commit more crime. Most of them are good people, I'm not talking about all or most of them, but on average... That's still true, though. If you just brought it up randomly or implied that most black people are criminals, then obviously it would be racist. But if it was in response to someone claiming that white people are more violent on average, then I don't think it would be racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:41 AM
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Also - the stuff about men doing anything for sex is a hilariously harmful stereotype that gives rise to the idea that men's consent is implied. I'm talking about on average. Not necessarily all or most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:35 AM
5

Bro is yapping.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:32 AM
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When you account for the fact that men are more likely to work dangerous and traumatic jobs Women are also more likely to be victims of sexual crimes/abused and also have to go through pregnancy/childbirth, so it probably averages out. (I will say that it depends on if there is currently a war or not.) more likely to be victims of violent crimes By other men it makes sense than almost 60% of people in inpatient psych wards are men, and it would probably be closer to 50-50 Just because you belong…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:32 AM
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angry. Men just express anger differently than women. And to a greater extent/are worse at controlling it. crimes aren’t inherently irrational/emotional. When the mob hit man kills someone. There’s usually a purpose for it even if it’s an evil purpose. They are obviously bad at controlling their emotions, though, if they kill people. that’s just cause men have been in power. Catherine the great fought plenty of wars in her time in power. Someone else made this point. men want sex more but that’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:18 AM
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men only show anger I agree with this for the most part. But they show anger so much more and to such a greater extent that it overall averages out IMO. you're ignoring the hundred of times the man just let it slide and didn't acted in emotion. This is true for women, too, though. Women don't always act on their emotions. First one, crime is not irrational outside those commited by mentally ill peoples, it's in fact a very rational trough proccess where the gains > risks. Depends on the crime, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:12 AM
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So they are like that all the time, apparently? That's even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:59 AM
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Men start wars? Yeah cus they usually end up in charge. This is a fair point. I'll amend my post. Men are convicted more? Yeah cus courts are biased against men. Maybe a bit, but not to such a great extent. (80% to 20% for violent crimes) Men get more angry than women? Sure but that’s a stupid thing to average, it’s like when men say “are you on your period”. Wdym by this? “Men will do anything for sex”, stupid and harmful stereotype. It's generally true, though; there have been studies on this.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:59 AM
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I want to clarify that I don't think that most men are crazy, but there are more crazy men than women. (At least, the men that are crazy tend to be crazy to a greater extent.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:44 AM
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I don't think doctors are forced to do it, as far as I'm aware. Even before Roe v. Wade was overturned, there were very few abortion providers in some states.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:43 AM
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Are you saying that men should be legally allowed to hire prostitutes? Or that the government should pay prostitutes to sleep with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:18 PM
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So do men, though. Obviously, most men would want to marry Megan Fox if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:15 PM
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Economy influences culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:25 PM
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How come most men eventually get married/get into a relationship then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:22 PM
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Might just be correlation since they are probably more conservative in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:58 PM
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True, but usually you gotta be pretty desperate to get to that point of selling your body for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:22 AM
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What if it's like their dad or uncle? Also, rapes are usually done by people you know and think you can trust, like family, friends, authority figures (like teachers or priests), family friends, or spouses/significant others. Do you think this applies to kids, as well? What if a girl got raped by her stepdad? Would you blame her?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:36 AM
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I doubt you'd tell them though, so this means your judgement on appearance will definitely change depending on context. What do you mean? Why would I go around telling random people they're ugly/not attractive lol? So are you a good judge then? A reliable one? As much as anyone else is, I guess. Men have long learnt to ignore what women say, and to focus solely on what they do, because of the huge discrepancy between the two. I mean, this is more of a human thing than specifically a man vs. wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:13 AM
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The equivalent would be how big their boobs/ass are, which men definitely do judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:04 AM
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What about boobs or ass size? Or how attractive a woman's face is? A lot of men also want a woman shorter than them. Men also judge women's race (a lot of men don't like black women). Not saying women don't do this, too, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:00 AM
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I don't think most women are attractive either. Most people are around average. If a man is really promiscuous, I would also assume that he sleeps with average women and probably some ugly women, as well. It's just that men have lower standards for who they sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:06 AM
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Who thinks that women are just as horny as men (on average)? A small minority of people might believe that, but I think most people would agree that men are more horny than women. You would have to be living under a rock to think otherwise. I mean literally just look at Grindr.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:38 AM
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I'm saying that it's obviously harder for ugly people, but most people get married eventually (men and women). I'm not saying that ugly men have it easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:23 AM
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Are there even enough attractive men for a woman to sleep with a lot of them exclusively? Unless you literally sleep with every attractive man you meet or you live in a big city and are constantly looking for new men to sleep with or something. Every promiscuous woman I've seen slept with average and ugly men, as well. They have low standards, which is why they're promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:14 AM
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There are some women who are really promiscuous and have low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:09 AM
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I think they have it better than attractive women for a few reasons (I'm talking about really handsome/high status men, like celebrities): They don't have to face as much stigma as women would face for being promiscuous. They could basically sleep with as many women they want without judgment (and many of them do). Men are often admired for their promiscuity (especially by other men), unlike women. Women also don't see it as as much of a problem. (They generally aren't as disapproving of promisc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:05 AM
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If the woman is easy and has low standards, she probably is sleeping with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:48 AM
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I think really hot men have it the easiest. Then attractive women second.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:46 AM
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What does this have to do with my comment, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:36 AM
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They probably will eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:35 AM
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Women already do that, though. Most men get married eventually. Or do they think that most women are nuns or lesbian?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:25 AM
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Lol you're probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:17 AM
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I respect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:16 AM
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So do the men on My 600 Pound Life (they have girlfriends). That doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:15 AM
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So they expect women to be easy and have low standards but only sleep with them? That's unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:13 AM
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Ok, but this is true for attractive women as well. Men will marry an attractive woman and buy her stuff even if she is a bimbo and has a bad personality. But the standards for average men are super high. You need to have a good career, dress well, be respectful, be funny, be interesting, etc etc. Not if the woman has low standards/is really promiscuous. (I'm not saying that most women are, but I'm just talking about the ones that are.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:12 AM
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99% of guys in that dudes life could've told that woman he's a piece of shit after spending 5 minutes with him. Why are they friends with him then? Why don't they call him out on his behavior or inform the woman about it? They are partially guilty as well IMO. Women just blind themselves and then go "oh he manipulated me" instead of "I fell for a guy who clearly didn't give a shit about me and I ignored every sign" Depends on the women. Some men also knowingly go after women who they know are cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:07 AM
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That's like me saying I'd rather have a man just give me money for free without sleeping with them... Of course they would. That doesn't mean that women would want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:49 AM
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Maybe the guy saw it that way, but the woman didn't or hoped for more to eventually come from it. That's possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:46 AM
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Probably like being offered pizza when you're vegan and lactose intolerant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:42 AM
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I don't know if that's necessarily true. And even if it was, did they think more would come of it? (Was there miscommunication/deception?)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:41 AM
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Where do you live? Also, just because someone matched with you, doesn't mean they actually like you, as my friend's experience showed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:39 AM
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It depends. Also, isn't that sometimes true the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:38 AM
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A lot of men also lie and manipulate women to get what they want. Some men are very good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:33 AM
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But she was also tricked and made fun of. It's not just a matter of her not finding anyone to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:59 AM
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Trolling? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:55 AM
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Men do that too, though. There are literally men who called Margot Robbie (of all people) "mid" on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:49 AM
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Yeah, it seems like a lot of men on here think that every woman literally has like 100 simps lined up ready to vie for their attention and buy them free stuff (and she chooses the best one out of them) when that isn't the experience of average or unattractive women at all. Or they seem to think that every woman has an OnlyFans. That's like me thinking that every man is a really rich, famous rockstar and sleeps with 100s of women and has a different woman every night...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:37 AM
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I'm attracted to men who wear makeup (like alternative men, for example), and so are a lot of other women. So I don't think that's always true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:29 AM
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I would date an alternative guy who wears makeup. I think a lot of women would. Matty Healy is a good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:23 AM
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Depends on what subculture they are in, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:10 AM
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I would choose to be a guy if I was really rich and handsome (like a celebrity). I think that's objectively the best life since you could get a lot of women but never really get judged for it much or anything. Also, sex is generally better for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:08 AM
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I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:03 AM
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Honestly, not a bad idea for a lot of women. It seems like more women are already doing that now, though, since younger generations are having less sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:55 AM
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I'm bi, but literally any woman would tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:53 AM
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Ok, and so do a minority of men. It's a minority for a reason...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:52 AM
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That's also wrong IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:32 AM
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But what women get is of a lower quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:30 AM
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sex is both pleasurable and validating For women, it often isn't, especially with men who don't care about or respect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:29 AM
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How come I often hear men complain about women using them for their money, then? Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:01 AM
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While I generally agree, it depends on how fat. Chubby is okay if you otherwise attractive, but that's also true for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:59 AM
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Almost every chad I’ve known has had mid fwb 2am hookup girls who they get with when the hot women they are dating flake Okay, and how many of those women are doing that knowingly without being tricked? Do they know how those men really see them? From the way you are describing it, it sounds like those men are talking about those women disrespectfully and using them. That's like saying I know women who are good at stealing men's money, so no men are poor, and men are lucky to have a woman only w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:55 AM
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Depends on where you live. Also, that is only in regards to directly paying for sex. You could still be a sugar daddy/pay women to date you. That is basically what most male celebrities do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:46 AM
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Who says that fat women only want to date fit men? You are just assuming that. I'm guessing that some of them are like that, but not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:44 AM
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It doesn't magically make an ugly person attractive, but it makes you look more attractive than you started. All celebrities (male and female) wear makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:41 AM
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True, but men could arguably wear makeup if they really wanted to. It's just not as socially acceptable (except for in certain subcultures).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:40 AM
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You are acting like ugly men never get in relationships/get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:38 AM
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Men: Women have to be model skinny but also have a huge ass and boobs at the same time, always wear makeup and dress nice (but not too noticeable/slutty), have long hair but shave everywhere else, always be done up but not high-maintenance, can't look old (has to use expensive skincare/get work done to prevent aging), and cook and clean for me like my mom Also men: All women have to do to be attractive is not be fat. (Obviously not all men. This is just a joke.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:29 AM
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Maybe for men, but not for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:19 AM
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what you consider an unattractive man is likely still top 50% of men Ok, so Harvey Weinstein and Trump are within the top 50% of men in terms of looks... A wealthy and masculine man who is not extremely handsome can still be considered attractive to many women But this goes both ways. A woman couldn't get more money/status to attract men more in the same way that men can with women (at least not to the same level). She is basically stuck with how she looks or has to get plastic surgery. Women we…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:10 AM
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Women tend to put more effort into their looks, though (like with wearing makeup and such).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:04 AM
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it's very difficult for unattractive men to get casual sex because women can sleep with guys who are more attractive than them without any effort. A lot of/most women don't even want that. That's literally WHY it's easier for women. That's how supply and demand works.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:03 AM
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Unattractive women have an objectively easier time dating than unattractive men. And attractive/average men have it easier than unattractive women. That is just on average (and it's arguable as to what extent that is really true). That doesn't mean that all women have it easier than all men. Hell, unattractive women have an easier time dating than even average lot of average men No they don't. See my friend as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:00 AM
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How come I often see unattractive men with attractive women, then? I rarely ever see an unattractive woman with an attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:56 AM
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My post is specifically talking about men who complain that women have it easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:51 AM
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The guys they got were attractive, not fat guys. So you're agreeing that it's not automatically hard or easy for someone just based on their gender, but it has to do with how attractive they are? That's basically what I'm saying. (Whether there are arguably more attractive women than men or not is irrelevant.) There is not fat men that get with lots of women, even fat ugly women. That's not true at all. What about Trump? (I know that he's rich, but it doesn't disprove my point. There are also so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:50 AM
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Considering how plenty of ugly women do pair and marry, I doubt all the food is poisoned. But the thing is, they pair up with men of similar features. This is also true for men. I'm talking about men who complain that women have it easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:44 AM
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How many of those men just wanted them for sex and didn't actually respect them? Also, just because someone matches with you doesn't mean they actually like you, as my friend showed. I think that a lot of men just swipe right on anyone and select out the women they actually want later.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:42 AM
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Men can do this, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:40 AM
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They might've had attractive faces and put on weight in the right places. Also, there are fat men who get a lot of women. How does that disprove anything? What about the men that they are hooking up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:40 AM
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True, also he could pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:34 AM
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What if the food is poisoned? That's basically the equivalent for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:32 AM
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Are American men not also fat?? Or is it okay for men to be fat but not women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:28 AM
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they still have stories of men hitting on them How many of those men just wanted to use them for sex because they were desperate and didn't actually like them? still look down on average or short men This is also true for conventionally unattractive men. If I had a dollar for every time a conventionally unattractive man insulted a woman's looks (despite the fact that she looks way better than him), I'd be rich. (See the men calling Margot Robbie "mid" on the internet.) still have crushes of extr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:27 AM
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Is this woman attractive to you? She's skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:15 AM
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Marriage seems better for men than women overall. Women generally have to do more unpaid labor in a marriage (taking care of kids, doing chores, etc.), even nowadays when women also work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:06 AM
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Do you think that for everyone who was abused or taken advantage of, it's always their own fault? Do you think that for men, too? That might be true in some cases, but not always.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:38 AM
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Some men are like that with every woman, though. It doesn't necessarily have to do with anything the woman did wrong or any shortcomings of hers. How would that be the woman's fault in that case (unless she knew it beforehand and thought she could change him or something)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:13 AM
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What if they're in an open relationship/polyamorous?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:20 AM
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Yeah, I don't understand that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:52 AM
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Doesn't that make you "for the streets" yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:10 AM
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Basically no one in reality thinks that it's good or impressive for a woman to be promiscuous, though. A lot of people (especially other men) see it as impressive if a guy is promiscuous. Also, I think that it is generally acceptable to criticize female promiscuity? I don't think most people see it as a good thing. Maybe some very woke people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:59 PM
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