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| 3 | Men Get Called Bitches All the TimeWTF is this talking about? Men get called "bitch" all the time. It means something different, more like "beta" or "cuck"...i.e. saying someone is weak/submissive. But its still demonstrably the same word!! | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/05/26 08:27 PM |
| 3 | NoThis man is the "Uncle Tom" of men. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/05/26 08:25 PM |
| 1 | "Is There As Much Man-Hating In Music As There Is Misogyny?"Personally I'm more worried about the general cognitive decline and enshittification that modern pop music shows. When an entire "song" can just be the name of an overpriced fashion fad, we aren't making music anymore. We are making advertisements. That is more damaging than either misogyny or misandry ever could be. Also, doesn't every song have the N word in it these days? It seems like you could make a much stronger case for racism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/26 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Talking about feelings has been exhaustingI've always wondered: what's the point in talking about feelings anyway? How does that solve anything? If I'm angry about something I can change, its more useful to talk about solutions. If I can't change it, its better not to dwell on the topic. Talking about emotions is a very good way to just make them spiral, which is not productive or healthy. Neuroscience backs this up, by the way. When men talk about emotions, their cortisol goes up. In women, it goes down and releases dopamine. At a biol… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/26 07:13 PM |
| 4 | Weaponization of gender normsEvery choice in partner a woman makes is a vote for the type of man (and thus, the type of world) she wants to live in. And from what I've experienced, this idea that most women, that feminists, are against gender norms, is total bullshit. Most women choose guys who embody the same behaviors they complain about. The whole "fragile masculinity" thing is mainly an ad-hominem attack against men who point out the contradictions between what modern women/feminism say they want, and what they actually… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/05/26 05:16 AM |
| 9 | Why men don't go to therapyIts a proven thing that men solve problems by coming up with solutions, and women solve them by talking about how the problem makes them feel. I've experienced this gender difference in my own relationship, and every single other guy I have talked to has said the same. Therapy is dominated by women, so its no surprise they mainly focus on what works for them (the latter concept). The other thing that disenfranchised me with therapy is how easily and commonly therapy language is misused, and over… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/05/26 05:08 AM |
| 10 | British actress & feminist Jameela Jamil's tirade against boys after the '62 million rape academy' hoax: is it not deplorable misandrist/bigotry to insinuate that literal children are rapists-by-default?I would love to have a stalwart interviewer sit her down and grill her about what *exactly* she expects men as a group to collectively do about this problem. Beyond simply not committing crimes myself, what am I supposed to do? Sure, if I see a crime happening, I would try to stop it. But that has never happened and likely will never happen. Maybe the first place she should look to for support instead should be the government, which apparently thinks its ok to spend billions of dollars on bombin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/05/26 03:29 AM |
| 2 | the pedophile hysteria has gone too far and i'm sick and tired of it.I'm not surprised. I've seen it too. This is the end result of people saying that sexism is always power + prejudice and all that crap. They are enabled to defend literal pedophilia because "older women don't have institutional power over young boys". Ummm...yes they do!! Especially in schools where this happens most often IRL. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/05/26 03:18 AM |
| 5 | What actually is the patriarchy?Ironically, as a feminine man myself, I never felt such pressure from other men to be more manly as feminists claim. I felt most of that pressure from women. It was surreal constantly hearing women bitch about toxic masculinity and there I was, the complete opposite of that. And not only were they not interested, they actively still got with the guys whose same behavior they were complaining about. Women are the sexual selectors of the species and hold all the power when it comes to dating, so t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/26 07:20 AM |
| 1 | This was in my School’s Library Social Justice sectionThat quote by Margret Atwood is so insipid. Most women cannot possibly be constantly afraid that men will kill them--society couldn't function if that were the case. It also couldn't function if there was anywhere near the amount of crime happening that it would take to make such fear justified. But also--so what? Just because two problems exist and one might be less severe than the other, does not mean it isn't worth addressing. I'd be interested to see what kind of mental gymnastics this book … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/26 07:09 AM |
| 2 | How do you other queer LWMA's connect with other LGBTQ people without risking exposure to missndry?I was making an observation about how these people do the right thing (look past someone's appearance and self expression) to acknowledge their gender identity. It felt weirdly validating to be seen as a "real man" after facing bullying and discrimination for being femme from other people. Its just unfortunate that being a "real man" in this case also means being lumped in with bad actors. Its an interesting dichotomy. I can hang out with liberal queers and be understood for my self expression, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/26 07:00 AM |
| 2 | TIL: Contrary to misandrist narrative, men actually do not care about woman's body count more than women do about men's body countThis is a brilliant response. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/05/26 03:42 PM |
| 4 | TIL: Contrary to misandrist narrative, men actually do not care about woman's body count more than women do about men's body countI dont think you know what red or black pill means. Both of them tell you how dating really works, but they also have a built in philosophy to how you should respond to that knowledge. Red pills says you should exploit the knowledge to treat women like sexual objects. I dont believe in that. Black pill says its hopeless. I dont believe in that either. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/05/26 03:32 PM |
| 7 | The demonization (and sexualization) of young boysGirls are perfect. They have fully formed emotional maturity at a young age and would never misjudge someone. This is literally what you would have to believe for any of her responses to make any sense. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 08/05/26 07:57 AM |
| 12 | TIL: Contrary to misandrist narrative, men actually do not care about woman's body count more than women do about men's body countAt the end of the day though, its the "fuckboys" who get laid over and over while the average "unfuckable loser" doesnt. The truth is, most women do care alot about body count. Just in the opposite direction of what they claim men care about. I.E. they want a man with a high body count and immediately find shy virgins suspect. How else do you explain how "incel" keeps getting used as an insult? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/05/26 07:54 AM |
| 13 | On HasanPersonally, I think anyone who accepts being told that everyone of their group is trash--whether that's race, gender, etc.--is the furthest thing from both "positive" and "manly". Its actually very pathetic and cowardly. Standing up and fighting back though? That shows self respect and takes guts. If a racist spews crap about black people being inferior, no one accuses a black person who points out the racism of being "sensitive". This thing Hasan is doing where you "be a man" and accept having … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/05/26 07:46 AM |
| 1 | How do you other queer LWMA's connect with other LGBTQ people without risking exposure to missndry?Not to take away from what you said at all because you raised a very important point. I feel horrible for you and all the other trans men/masculine non-males. That said, the thing is that I dont show masculine behavoir. Im very feminine in the way I express myself and talk to people. I get along very well with women online. I dont show any of the traits you mentioned at all. And they still hate me. Its not about masc or fem. If you identify as a man and have any position on gender issues other t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/05/26 07:11 AM |
| 17 | On incels.The funny thing is that she is literally showing that the only unit of value she understands is sex. Some feminist, amirite? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/26 05:35 AM |
| 4 | On incels.There are genuinely radical incels that hate women and feel entitled to sex. However, they are a SMALL minority. And unfortunately the bad actions of this group are applied to all incels, and even just men in general. The majority of men who use this term do not hate women or feel entitled to sex. They are simply using the term in the most literal sense (persistent lack of romantic success, i.e. involuntarily celibate). This is also how the term was first used by the woman who invented it. And t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/26 05:32 AM |
| 2 | How do you other queer LWMA's connect with other LGBTQ people without risking exposure to missndry?Yes, its a stupid metaphor because it compares humans to snakes. I wouldn't jump into a pit of 100 snakes anyway even if I knew they were all non-poisonous. There is simply no reason to do that. This is where the metaphor falls apart. Simply treating random men you interact with in daily life with dignity and respect is not at all like "jumping into a pit of snakes". The risk is not the same. Im not asking women to trust men completely and walk into a dark alley with strangers. All I was taking … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/26 10:06 PM |
| 15 | How do you other queer LWMA's connect with other LGBTQ people without risking exposure to missndry?I dont think its masculinity they have an issue with. Fem presenting males get treated like shit too. I would know cause I am one. Its literally just men. They just latch onto "toxic masculinity" as a way to hide that. I bet you I could say Im a trans woman and change literally nothing and they'd all of a sudden accept me. Sorry you and your partner had go through all of that. Its all just a double standard. Women do the same things that get labeled as "toxic masculinity" but direct those behavi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/26 10:17 PM |
| 0 | The 'Pill' people and internet macho-posturers hold back/are counterproductive to opposition to feminist misandry and/or critique of feminismI agree with your points about red pill. Its a really shallow criticism of modern day radical feminism that doesnt focus on the actual issues. Its just a bunch of frat bros pretending to be "traditional conservatives". But they dont actually have family values they just want to get laid for free while offering nothing to women. You're correct about black pill failing at Biodeterminism. There are general trends towards certain things in society but saying they're 100% universal is obviously wrong… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/26 04:32 AM |
| 13 | I’m Sure a Lot of People Would Hire Male BabysittersAnyone with sense wouldnt hire a random female stranger, either. Especially one with such clear hatred of males to boot. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/05/26 04:19 AM |
| 11 | Stop saying "by other men!"It doesnt matter because the point is that even if other men are doing it, they're still doing it to men instead of women. The disproportionate nature of it is what proves the misandry. Funny how you will see feminsts talk about "internalized misogyny" but suddenly when men do bad things to other men, its not "internalized misandry". These people can literally only see things in terms of oppressor vs oppressed. They only care about who is the "bad guy", not actual unequal suffering. Theyre not e… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/26 04:17 AM |
| 2 | Just because a server says they are queer friendly does not mean they have progressive views.The whole "education" thing is a non-starter. There is no possible argument anyone can make that justifies hatred of entire racial or gender groups. Was it just that Native Americans were forced to endure "education" by Spanish missionaries? No, of course not. No one should have to listen to "education" about why they are evil just because they belong to a certain group they could not control being born into. You're spot on about the Nazi thing. The possibility that men or white people could be … | /r/EverydayMisandry | 26/04/26 07:18 PM |
| 5 | Teen boys are choosing AI girlfriends over real ones for 'maximum control, zero rejection'—experts say it could make them unemployable | FortuneAssuming this is true, would it even be any surprise? So many "progressives" attack men and call them evil, talk about how they'd rather choose a bear, etc. Of course boys/men are going to choose AI. These are crap, undoubtedly, but they still offer better companionship and affection than most women can provide. I think you can easily spin this around and say that modern manhaters can't even compete with chat GPT. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/26 07:11 PM |
| 4 | the pedophile hysteria has gone too far and i'm sick and tired of it.I've been called a pedo because I came out on another account as a brolita (male lolita). For those who don't know, its a fashion/cosplay style based on hyperfeminine outfits like petticoats, jump skirts, etc. It has nothing to do with "loli" hentai or anything like that. Even if that were the case, it was other (female, I presume) lolitas calling me that, so they were just straight up being hypocritical and acting like women can't and don't abuse children. (They can and do). Its so absurd becau… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/26 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone else (particularly Millennial men) feel men were told for a long time to critically examine their looks standards for women, only for this messaging to suddenly and silently disappear when it was discovered circa 2012 that women are no less looks-focused than men?I remember being told countless times that I was unfair for wanting only the most attractive 10/10 women and only caring about looks (I don't). These people also accused me being of being ugly (I'm not, but according to their worldview it shouldn't matter) by saying they were "out of my league" and I should just looksmatch by dating a fat/ugly woman. So apparently its wrong for men to want an attractive partner, but its okay for women to not want that. It's also ok to use supposed "ugliness" as … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/26 07:51 PM |
| 1 | As we approach the 25th anniversary of Shrek, what do you think about the film's commentary on gender issues?I think the metaphor completely falls apart when you consider that Shrek actually is a giant, hideous ogre who lives in a bog swamp. If the film actually wanted to be pro male, Shrek would just be an ordinary, non-menacing dude who gets mislabeled for literally no reason. That's basically what they did in Zootopia and why that movie gets it right. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/26 07:42 PM |
| 5 | Who will stop the fear merchants?"Entombing women within a prison of fear" what a great line. That is exactly what people are doing because fear is how you control people. I feel so bad for women nowadays. It must take a severe psychological toll to live in constant fear. Let alone the opportunity cost of missing out on positive interactions/relationships with good men. The irony is that this mentality makes it MORE likely for women to end up with bad men. They become desensitized to the idea that men are bad, and they are soci… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/26 02:24 PM |
| 8 | They’re trying to erase history to fit their narrative.Oh, so white women were getting lynched? Enslaved? Forced to use different drinking fountains and sit in the back of the bus? What a blatantly racist dogwhistle. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 23/04/26 02:16 PM |
| 2 | TIL why autistic men have it so much harder indeed, while reading "The assertive woman" by Bloom/Coburn/Pearlman from 1975. Non-assertive men are interpreted in a very malicious way, further encouraging aggressive and dominant behaviours while activly punishing sensible characters.I'm autistic and had problems with dating for many years, and it was not because I was too meek and passive. It was because I was too forward and open (a common trait of autistics), which would be more on the assertive side, not passive. It was just that WHAT I was asserting and the way that I was asserting it was seen as "wrong". Its been said many times that society often expects men to be mind readers when it comes to female comfort, and that's even harder for autistic men. So we end up not r… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/26 02:07 AM |
| 4 | What's your response to feminists who claim that the Epstein's case proves the patriarchy or men's nature?You can just cite any woman who did a bad thing and then turn around and mockingly accuse all women of being that way as a way to show how ridiculous the argument is. What about Ghislaine Maxwell? That clearly shows all women are rapists, right? The truth is that whenever bad stuff happens people hyperfocus on the men who were guilty and ignore the women. Its a form of a cherry picking fallacy. Female chauvinists ignore all of the times a woman did wrong and only focus on the men. I also think i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/03/26 05:33 AM |
| 10 | Question about the influence of online discourse on women's perception of dangerExcept that saying this feels... dangerous. Like I should broadly accepy that women are the most vulnerable population out there and that the discourse has no part in this perception. That by me saying this I would be saying "women are scared for no reason at all". Well, I wouldn't say "no reason at all". But yeah, the fear is *mostly* unfounded. The likelihood of it actually happening is not proportionate at all to the harm caused to both men and women by assuming it will. I absolutely think on… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/03/26 05:27 AM |
| 5 | Blaming all men despite the fact that women also enabled EpseinSo every man on the planet is in the epstein files? Is that what this is claiming? | /r/EverydayMisandry | 15/02/26 08:25 AM |
| 1 | The Problem With Men in Modern Video GamesIts so sureal being a femboy in today's world. I am constantly seeing male characters I can't relate to because I don't feel they represent me, only to be told that "it's okay when men are depicted all the same way" (that being hyper masc and generic muscle dudes with short hair) because its not objectification, it's a male power fantasy. Excuse me? It's not MY power fantasy. Men are not all the same. Meanwhile, they act like looking beautiful and feminine is somehow NOT a power fantasy as well.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/26 07:59 AM |
| 1 | Blackness and MalenessThe comparison is so apt that you can basically swap "female" for "white" and "male" for "black" in any gender debate to expose how regressive female chauvinists actually are. If it sounds bad when you apply the same issue to race, its bad when applied to gender, too. There is a whole subreddit that does this, r/menkampf you may be interested in, albeit more often with jews instead of black people. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/26 07:50 AM |
| 1 | This video is one of the best examples of the blatant double standard around men versus women being abusedI have seen quite a few of these over the years. Sometimes they even show that even if the woman was the initial aggressor and the man defended himself, bystanders would still react to protect her as if he were the aggressor. So essentially not only can a woman do whatever she wants to a man in public and no one will care, but you can't even defend yourself without being labelled the abuser instead. If you swap the genders or apply that dynamic to something like race, it would sound like somethi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/26 07:45 AM |
| 1 | Do You Dislike The Term "Men's Rights?"I'm not a big fan of the term and don't apply it to myself because I'm not sure which "rights" I'd be fighting for. The issues that have affected me are more cultural and not the type of thing you can really fix with legislation. I want to change people's attitudes, stop them from demonizing and devaluing men. Any official legislation that would try to fix that would do more harm than good. You can't force people to change their attitude, they have to decide it for themselves. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/26 07:33 AM |
| 2 | Discussions of male loneliness always results in some feminists chiming in and oversimplifying the issueAn obvious straw man. Most guys aren't complaining about not having any male friends. They're complaining about not having any romantic relationships with women. Which just isn't the same as having a male friend--you're way more intimate with your romantic partner than you are with a friend. That's the kind of intimacy they are missing out on and no amount of male friendship can replace it. They're two completely different types of relationships. Men are generally less homosocial than women. You… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/26 07:27 AM |
| 27 | Feminist assumptions about men are to blame for half of the rise in anti-feminismBoth create stereotype threat (the feeling of needing to disprove stereotypes through positive behaviour (adding a behaviour) or through negative behaviour (removing a behaviour)). I felt something very deep and personal when I read this. I wouldn't quite have described it that way, but stereotype threat is essentially what I've been dealing with for my entire adult life. I've always felt a need to "prove myself" to women. Prove myself not only harmless, but also a benevolent force to them. When… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/26 07:58 AM |
| 2 | My Psychology textbook “wryly” suggested putting all males between the ages of 12 to 28 in cryogenic sleep to reduce crime.Yeah and we'd also grind society to a halt cause those same men wouldn't be working all the important jobs. I doubt most women would just pick up the slack and work as mechanics or plumbers. This is literally giving rich people saying "lets just get rid of all the poor people and then we won't have to deal with them" vibes. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/01/26 07:33 AM |
| 1 | Exposing double standards is misogynistic, apparentlyHe literally said the same thing but with the genders reversed and they called him a bigot for it. The delusion is unreal. How much more blatantly hypocritical can you get? | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/01/26 07:31 AM |
| 2 | Part 2 of People Attacking a Husband for Being Unhappy About Being Overlooked at His Own WeddingBecause of hypergamy. Women marry up the social ladder, so for her its an achievement. They celebrate her because its like she just won the lottery. She got bailed out. She got uplifted. She rolled the dice and got snake eyes. But because of doublethink society has also convinced itself that women are somehow "the prize" and so she *deserves* to be the primary focus as compensation because she's being "given away". It's the the best of both worlds, because if it wasn't, and men realized they wer… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 24/12/25 08:30 AM |
| 3 | As a Bisexual woman I do not claim her, and I also reported her post for promoting violence against men including normalizing transphobiaWonder Woman is possibly the least radfem female character ever conceived. She literally left an island of all women who claimed to be awesome and perfect but in reality could do absolutely nothing to save or protect anyone, only to go to "man's world", where contrary to her expectations she made allies with tons of men and was respected as a hero, then got exiled from said island because she saved them with the help of her male allies. You literally couldn't conceive of a less radfem character … | /r/EverydayMisandry | 24/12/25 08:21 AM |
| 9 | Assuming men are murderersWhy does the sex of the perpetrator matter? Most slut shaming is done "By OtHeR wOmEn". Double standards. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 24/12/25 08:12 AM |
| 5 | Assuming men are murderers"What if he murders me" that's why she sexually selects for the most highly masculinized, tall, and physically imposing males who are more equipped to do the deed. Makes perfect sense to me. /s | /r/EverydayMisandry | 24/12/25 08:09 AM |
| 8 | "Boy math"I like how guys are apparently scumbags for rounding up to 6 feet when women will literally call HR for sexual harassment on men talking to them who are under 6ft. Meanwhile, we all know no woman has ever lied about her age or weight, ever, right? Ok so a mattress on the floor is pretty cheap and lazy, sure, but is that really comparable to earning significantly less not through sexism or discrimination but by working less hours, less high-paying jobs, etc.? The wage gap ain't real, its an earni… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 24/12/25 08:05 AM |
| 1 | Boys to learn difference between porn and real life to tackle misogyny in England’s schoolsExcuse me?! First of all, 11 year olds should not be taught the difference between porn and reality because 11 year olds shouldn't be looking at porn. Funny how all the anti-pedo warriors are suddenly silent when it comes to adults teaching young *boys* about sex. Imagine if they were talking about teaching girls 11-17 about porn. There would be people marching in the streets with torches and pitchforks. That said, I do agree with the overall concept. Porn is so vile! It depicts such heinous act… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/12/25 07:51 AM |
| 4 | There's a lot to unpack here...Actually most romance books aimed at women are literally the exact opposite of what is claimed here: romanticization of bad boys with toxic masculinity attitudes that treat women in ways that they would label as abuse if a less attractive man did it. (Bodice rippers, harlequin novels, 50 Shades, etc.) Meanwhile, most romance aimed at men caters to the fantasy of just being appreciated by a woman for the basic quality of being a decent guy. That's all any of us can really do, and it used to be en… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 17/12/25 04:41 AM |
| 2 | Male-Only Draft in the United StatesLets call the all-male draft what it is: men dying and experiencing life-altering trauma to protect women. Perhaps that made somewhat more sense in a time period where society was more favorable for men, and it was expected that the vast majority of men would pair bond young and have a wife + kids they'd actually want to protect. It's still unfair of course, because I could at least see some rationale behind ideals of "The American Dream" and all that. But now? In a world where so many men are c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/25 05:33 AM |
| 1 | Zohran Mamdani's take on the male loneliness crisis is probably the most fair take by any Western politician so far, acknowledging systemic issues and economic pressure as the driving force. This is surprising for the Leftist misandry he's surrounded by, and hopeful.I don't disagree (generally) but I didn't say "will", I said "can", and that's an important distinction to make. Pointing out they CAN but are choosing NOT to should be an important part of any dialogue about gender norms, dating, etc. We shouldn't allow detracted to hide behind "they can't" as a defense. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/25 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Zohran Mamdani's take on the male loneliness crisis is probably the most fair take by any Western politician so far, acknowledging systemic issues and economic pressure as the driving force. This is surprising for the Leftist misandry he's surrounded by, and hopeful.Except women can fix it. They can start having more reasonable standards, stop demonizing well intentioned men over trivial matters like social awkwardness, stop seeking dark triad men, etc. No, that wont fix the economic issues, but it sure would make a hell of a difference. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/25 07:20 AM |
| 1 | Audiences having a strong dislike for fictional male characters that are aloof.People dont like misunderstood, brooding male characters because it forces them to confront their own lack of empathy. A character like Batman is a perfect example. He someone who experienced something terrible, got traumatized, but strengthened himself from it and became a hero despite inner darkness tempting him to evil. People don't like that because they want to ignore male trauma and pretend there arent good reasons for a man to become dark and brooding like that, and even if they did, that… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/25 07:15 AM |
| 3 | A lot of misandry is very anti-autisticAlso, we communicate very clearly and precisely. We don't veil our language in the double meanings and hints and indirect allusions. Perhaps many women see this kind of direct language as a sort of aggression, especially in courtship. I have no idea how most NT males speak to women, but I'm very direct. "I really enjoy talking to you and would like to spend more time with you, if you're interested." A friend once told me that I have problems with women because I "wear my heart on my sleeve". To … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/25 05:34 AM |
| 3 | Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine has *disproportionately* affected womenIf she had just said "the people of Ukraine" it would have been a great sentiment about the horrors of what happened to that country. But no, she had to use a terrible human tragedy to advance her misandrist agenda. That's disgusting. I hope they build a huge monument to her with the words "women and girls are most affected by war" on it. That way, someday and somewhen the world is less misandrist, people will look back on her name and her countenance and realize what a complete fucking buffoon … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/25 05:21 AM |
| 1 | “Men only view women as objects” is false and missing the point.It’s why OnlyFans took off so quickly, it’s a model as to where you can pretend the girl actually is interested in you, hence the chat feature. It provides that second component to male sexuality that’s so inherent. Spot on. Porn is free. If that's all men wanted, OF wouldn't exist. I've never understood this feminist notion that I can't desire a physically attractive partner, AND care about her emotionally/romantically. And by the way, even if there was something wrong with us, women couldn't c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/25 05:14 AM |
| 1 | Why does nobody seem to talk about the double standards of male vs female clothing?Obviously, this system isn't great for women either, that their bodies are treated as ornaments to be displayed for public consumption and treated as sexualised 'prizes' to be shown off. No, its a great system for women. You said it yourself earlier in the post. For any formal event, women can wear outfits which cover the female form entirely, which display it partially or gowns that tease it with slits etc. They can wear whatever they want. It's become a social taboo to regulate female appearan… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/25 05:02 AM |
| 1 | Most people don't truly or unconditionally support human rightsMost people are chauvinists--they only care about things that benefit them, which is why they often support their own social group. It's just human nature. Most of us are selfish. Why else would we be killing the planet and giving 99.9999% of the wealth to billionaires? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/25 04:54 AM |
| 3 | A lot of misandry is very anti-autisticIn my experience, "autistic" may as well mean "sociopath" to most people, because in most cases the traits they attribute to the former are more accurate to the latter. People have no idea what it actually means to be autistic when it comes to men. It's really just an excuse to exaggerate the worst traits of toxic masculinity and apply them to anyone they don't like. The truth is that, fundamentally, the traits of autism are actually incongruent with traditional masculinity. Autistic males are m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/25 04:51 AM |
| 1 | RationalWiki's argument for misandry is the most ridiculous I've ever readYeah, it makes no sense to be insult and demean people you're allegedly afraid of. If women are really afraid of men because they're so much stronger, why do so many of them prefer men with overly traditional manly attributes (tall, muscles, sporty types) compared to less traditional attributes (short, slender, intellectual, empathetic)? To borrow from manosphere parlance, a "chad" or "alpha" male would be much more physically equipped to hurt her than "beta" male. Sure, both are probably strong… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/25 04:33 AM |
| 10 | I'm so tired of Vaush's take on male lonelinessAt some point, one has to question if "push[ing] people toward the manosphere grifters" isn't the point to begin with? Like if I was a manosphere grifter, I'd want to play good cop bad cop with someone who goes so far on the radical left side that they push people towards me. Just saying. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/25 04:17 AM |
| 5 | I realize how most dating advice for men you get from people is unhelpful, sexist, and biased, and why I think that's the case.Hygiene? In my experience the sweaty stinky guys with bad skin are the ones who get laid, and guys like me who have a skincare routine get called gay or "too feminine". Confidence? Oh like you mean if I'm not a quarterback but I go up to the cheerleader and talk to her anyway? Right. Of course not THAT kind of confidence. I'd be the creep in that scenario. Because everyone knows it actually requires less confidence to be a 7/10 and approach women. Money? Men are already making more money than wo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/25 02:47 AM |
| 1 | The rise of misandrist conspiracy theories.True crime is like the female equivalent of MGTOWs constantly citing divorce cases where men get screwed over and financially raped. Yes, it happens, but not every woman is like that, just like how every man is like that. I was taken in by that nonsense when I was in my younger 20's. That's why this stuff is so insidious: it brainwashes young naive people who don't know any better by bombarding them with the 1% of cases that match the narrative they want to sell. Only in my defense (and in defen… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/10/25 02:23 AM |
| 1 | Should we start telling feminists that, if they want our support to restore abortion protections in the US, it's only fair that they support men's reproductive rights too?This post is such a good example of how much this sub has changed for the better since the last mod regime. I was temporarily banned back in the day for making a post much like this one. My observation was that removing abortion rights is just lowering women back down to the floor that men have always been at. That said, is it right to refuse support of abortion until men get equal due? Well, isn't one of our main counter arguments against feminists who say "yeah, but women get raped tho" that j… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/10/25 02:16 AM |
| 21 | Have You Experienced or Witnessed Mistreatment of Men Based on Physical Appearance or Social Status?I remember posting pictures of myself to one of those "do I look good" subreddits or something like that, oh, I don't know, 10 years ago. I was a naive college kid and didn't know what kind of answers I would get. My favorite mean comment was about how shitty it looks for men to wear cardigans and sweaters and that I should wear leather biker jackets instead. Imagine writing off whole articles of clothing because they aren't "masculine enough". Sure, you don't have to be into the softer aestheti… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/10/25 03:41 AM |
| 1 | The performative male trend expose cognitive dissonance again.No, you actually made a very good point! Yes, a lot of women (especially millennials and younger) base decisions on purely arbitrary and indefinable reasons like "vibes" or whatever random tiktok brainrot is popular at the time. I don't actually believe that's because women are too emotional and just can't base things on reason. That's an absurd and sexist claim. But ironically that's the exact sexist trope being played into here: play dumb and act like a silly girl so you don't have to explain … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/10/25 03:34 AM |
| 1 | They want us to be "soft"I have noticed the same exact thing after trying to interact in various femdom subs and discords. So many "dommes" express disdain for male subs. Any time a guy talks about what he wants or what he's into, there's some way they have to "problematize" it and couch the discussion in radical feminist language, even if what he said is obviously not problematic at all. There's a constant hyperfixation on what the dommes want and need, because you know obviously "in normal society women's needs are ig… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/10/25 03:24 AM |
| 1 | (OLD POST) The expectation society (men & women) has of men to approach and initiate an interaction is the reason women feel unsafe when a man does approachGood for you man. I hope you're a lot younger than me, and that you're realizing this at a young age before your golden years are ruined like mine were. I didn't figure that out soon enough and had tons of self-doubt and loathing over it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/10/25 02:54 AM |
| 2 | (OLD POST) The expectation society (men & women) has of men to approach and initiate an interaction is the reason women feel unsafe when a man does approachThe way I look at it is this. Women put up a kind of social "forcefield" around themselves to keep themselves safe (read: to make themselves feel safe. Two very different things.) Except the boundaries they define are ridiculous things like "a man talking to me in public for any reason". As seen in the 12 hour video you mention where most of the guys weren't even being creepy. Well, if your boundaries so broad as to basically encompass everything, then of course people are constantly going to vi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/25 01:11 AM |
| 2 | Performative maleWe don't want to know each other and we want to know ourselves even less. Pure poetry. This comment deserves more upvotes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/25 12:58 AM |
| 1 | Performative maleIts a little bit hard for me to understand your post but I think I get the gist of what you are saying. People often tell lonely men to mirror hobbies that attract women, but they paradoxically also say to "be yourself". Besides the obvious hypocrisy of this it also implies that all women are the same, which is sexist. Some women like video games and books. Maybe they're looking for a nerdy guy and not quarterback. To erase those women is disrespectful. (It's also disrespectful to erase nerdy me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/25 12:53 AM |
| 7 | Feminists say men issues are caused by other men. But yet men are still mocked for having a brotherhood with other men though.Black on black crime is more common than white on black crime, but that doesn't mean racism is not a problem. It's truly frightening sometimes how closely the logic used by feminists lines up with the logic used by conservatives. Or, to make it more personal: point out that most slut shaming is done by other women, so obviously men shouldn't care about it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/25 12:44 AM |
| 7 | The performative male trend expose cognitive dissonance again.Literally almost every one of my male friends has a cat. And some of these are quite "macho" men in the traditional way (not toxic). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/25 12:39 AM |
| 15 | The performative male trend expose cognitive dissonance again.Also, romance books sales (mostly aimed at women, of course) absolutely dwarf those of every other genre by a huge margin to the point that its taking over the industry. And guess what most of those books are stuffed with? Smut, often with extreme content and fetishes, and romantization of dark triad men. Most of these books aren't romantic at all, they're downright depraved. The idea that women are the more romantic gender is a total lie. Their porn just takes a different form. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/25 12:37 AM |
| 10 | The performative male trend expose cognitive dissonance again.That's exactly what happened to me in college. I was told than I have no social skills and need to learn how to be charming. So I started asking questions related to that and people then said: "Well if you even have to ask how women want you to act then you're obviously a psychopath with no human emotions who can't figure it out on his own, so we're not going to give you the knowledge to exploit against us." (obviously I shouldn't have cared about conforming to what women want, but I was a dumb,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/25 12:30 AM |
| 5 | They want us to be "soft"I too am that way, but imagine my surprise when I became old enough to date and found out that most women definitely don't want a guy like that, despite their claims to the opposite. The reality is that (much like right-wing alpha male coaches) they conflate being shy, emotional, empathetic, etc. with being a weak little beta cuck. It's just that they WANT A weak little beta cuck. (Or at least they think they do, in reality harlequin romance novels sell by the truckloads). Only, they use it in a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/25 12:16 AM |
| 17 | Unpopular opinion, recently, this sub discusses culture and the language of the discourse more than the actual issues billions of men face.Policy is not the cause, but the effect. Rhetoric is the cause--its why policy is what it is in the first place. You can't convince people to change their policy until they change their rhetoric first. You have to tackle the small stuff (like the excesses of feminism and misandrist twitter posts) before you can address the big stuff (male homelessness and economic issues). All of the soapbox "whining" you complain about is geared to address the root problem: the empathy gap. Do you really think … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/25 12:00 AM |
| 21 | An excellent video on female-targeted smut. (My analysis below).I'm bisexual and have several reddit accounts. On one of them I used to be much more open about my sexuality and openly talk about what turns me on in appropriate NSFW servers, including commenting on various porn subs. People in SFW servers I would also comment in (nothing related to sex, of course) would look at my post history and use it as a way to exclude or attack me. The common theme seemed to be "you're a pervert who only has these interests because you look at porn" so somehow that make… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/25 03:56 AM |
| 29 | An excellent video on female-targeted smut. (My analysis below).There certainly is an element of feminist "male gaze" logic to it. The reason people see male porn as bad probably does have a lot to do with the fact that its visual: its seen as "objectifying women". But female porn isn't visual so therefore it doesn't objectify anyone according to feminist logic. Even though reducing men to various sets of "tropes" sounds way more objectifying to me. I mean, women have tits and asses, that's a biological fact. But real men aren't as shallow as some of these i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/25 03:41 AM |
| 1 | The Science: A Few Hyper-Aggressive Men, Drive Violence StatsIt's mostly men but it's also only a small percentage of men as a whole. The average men has about as much in common with one of these hyper aggressive males as the average peaceful Muslim has with violent Islamic terrorists. For some reason, profiling Muslims is correctly seen as intolerable by the regressive mainstream left, but they turn around and apply Trumpian logic when it comes to men. Or to look at this another way: most child abuses are committed by women. But the average person would … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/25 11:15 PM |
| 2 | Years later, I'm still mourning what was taken from me.Reality is most women want to be the nice one in the relationship. Interesting, I hadn't considered that. It adds even more reason why so many women chose jerks. It's so much easier to be nice when the bar of your comparison is in the marianas trench. Meanwhile, men that do set a high bar of niceness are insurmountable, so they must be taken down. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/25 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Years later, I'm still mourning what was taken from me.This is where us men, especially "naive nice guys" like myself, are at a huge disadvantage. This kind of behavior and reasoning is invisible to us until we're older, get burned a few times, and have a chance to discuss it over with fellow men. We're not used to weaponizing social games like this. And unfortunately society is very well set up to call out male aggression, to the point of over-fixating on it and going after innocents. It is not as well optimized to call out female aggression. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/25 02:25 AM |
| 2 | Years later, I'm still mourning what was taken from me.I don't like social circles because as you described it it has a ripple effect. One of the comments mentioned you were targeted for bullying. Because you mentioned some group dynamic in your early 20s, I'd have to assume this was an environment where people have an idea of you and think you're non threatening? I had a similar experience like that too. The women I knew in my social circle were comfortable throwing shade at me. However, I notice when I try to start a friendly conversation with wom… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/08/25 05:05 AM |
| 1 | Years later, I'm still mourning what was taken from me.No, I don't want testosterone therapy at all. I assume it wouldn't work anyway. The condition is basically one that prevents androgen from being absorbed properly so it converts into estrogen, so that would only give me more estrogen. At least I think so. Trying to get an intersex diagnosis in this country is absolute hell. But yeah, I actually enjoy presenting myself in a feminine way. I have gender dysphoria sometimes about not looking feminine enough. I can only imagine that's because I've ba… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/08/25 04:56 AM |
| 2 | Years later, I'm still mourning what was taken from me.Perhaps I am not introverted as you. It can be a spectrum sometimes. I like socializing, it just drains me. I never wanted to have a huge circle of friends, it just always made me feel sick whenever I'd finally develop a meaningful relationship with several people only for all of them to ghost me because I asked one of the women of the group on a date. I | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/25 03:43 AM |
| 3 | Years later, I'm still mourning what was taken from me.What's wrong with the other comments? They're all empathetic and insightful. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/25 04:13 AM |
| 6 | Years later, I'm still mourning what was taken from me.Dude, he said he starts friendly conversations. That is literally the exact opposite of what red pill philosophy says you should do. At least know what manosphere terms mean before you start spouting them randomly. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/25 03:18 AM |
| 4 | Years later, I'm still mourning what was taken from me.Honestly, starting a friendly conversation with them is probably what kills your chances. I mean, people have done literal tinder studies where "high value men" with bodies similar to yours treat women like absolute shit, saying horribly misogynistic stuff that would never fly in any other context and they respond positively to it for some bizarre reason. I'm not sure what conclusion a sane person can draw from that other than "I guess most women do want to be treated like shit". I don't want to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/25 03:17 AM |
| 7 | Years later, I'm still mourning what was taken from me.Honestly that whole "you don't need a partner to be happy" seems like cope to me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/25 03:10 AM |
| 7 | Years later, I'm still mourning what was taken from me.Perhaps this is something I could have phrased better. By "miss out" I mean missing out on what was promised by society, not some kind of tangible possibility that could have actually happened. I.E. the lies that media and tradition tell you about what is supposed to happen in your 20's vs what you actually get. I know that rationally, you're correct, I didn't really miss out on anything that could have actually happened. It's more like how Boomers say that getting a job/married/kids is easy, bu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/25 03:03 AM |
| 24 | Years later, I'm still mourning what was taken from me.Yeah I totally get what you mean. Its possible to think two things at once. I don't have to believe what happened to me was good, in order for me to not wish it changed. Thanks, this was a really insightful and supporting comment. Just hearing you say someone should have stood up for me helps a lot. For what it's worth, I am very sorry for what happened to you as well. Someone should have done something. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/25 05:35 AM |
| 2 | The Tea app shows the social attitude towards menThe most glaring hypocrisy to me is the fact that most of the lawsuits, from what I've seen, are being filed on behalf of the female users, not the male users. In other words, the big problem everyone has with an app that doxes men without their knowledge or consent, is that it wasn't secure enough and hackers were able to dox the women doing the doxing without their knowledge or consent. It's literally the perpetrators of a crime suing because their crime wasn't foolproof enough and they didn't… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/25 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Popular female "dating advice" app "Tea", known for female creeps breached by hackers.Imagine if there was app doxxing women like this. It would be an uproar, of course. It would be one thing if the app was 100% women sharing actual stories about legitimate creeps. But then, most popular guys and boyfriends would be on that list. Not single lonely nerds like I am sure it is now. Based on what kind of superficial things are considered "creepy" nowadays, I simply have no faith whatsoever that most of what is being reported here is actually creepy behavior. Its probably mostly just … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/25 03:04 AM |
| 2 | Normalizing trauma-informed responses to womens' safety concernsBut crime statistics and civil liberties are a good argument. A smoking gun, even. (Regardless of whether people will see it that way or not, it is). As for mocking trauma. I of course don't advocate that anyone mock what actually happened to someone. That is not worthy of mockery. What IS worthy of mockery, though, is extrapolating one's personal traumas onto an entire group and blaming them for it when most of that group is innocent. Imagine if I, as a white guy, said that I feared black peopl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/25 02:53 AM |
| 6 | These two replies (not the comment on the top) are utterly horrifying. He was EIGHT.That is a literal comment a pedophile would say. Imagine if the commenter/hypothetical perpetrator was male and the victim was a girl? | /r/EverydayMisandry | 13/08/25 02:38 AM |
| 14 | apparently it’s “fragile” to not like to be insulted"I want a big strong manly alpha male who won't take any shit and is a totally unrealistic badass who can protect me against 17 elite ninjas at once, but also any guy who defends himself against my misandrist rhetoric and won't let me make him look like a weak little bitch has a fragile ego". The dating standards are literally impossible, guys. Actually, no, maybe they're quite possible. I feel like the right answer was "that's right baby, I have a big ego cause I'm Chad Thunderballs and I deser… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 13/08/25 02:33 AM |
| 1 | I thought I found an article actually addressing male sexlessness from a progressive perspective, only to get more shaming and the same cliche tropes.The core issue is that most women don't actually want to date the kind of guy who has the relationship skills they complain are lacking. They want to keep dating the traditionally masculine Chad Thunderballs who's a terrible life partner but a great hookup and has a jaw made of steel, but magically fix him somehow instead of maybe giving the slightly less conventionally attractive guy who may have a lot more redeeming qualities a fair chance. That's why all of their examples are stuff that only … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/25 02:16 AM |
| -9 | Keep in mind that this is the only reason that men and men's rights are relevant again.I'd rather men's rights be consigned to the dust bin of history than be associated with Trump and the right. Some may think that its good that we're getting attention no matter how distasteful the avenue, but the reality is that associating men's rights with the right wing is only making it worse for us. It makes it easier for the radical not-so-left to paint us all as misogynists, while avoiding doing anything actually economically left leaning that would actually help men. Meanwhile, the right… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/25 02:05 AM |
| 1 | Breaking Points: SHOE0NHEAD Responds To Male Loneliness BacklashYeah well the opinions of other men don't matter. They can hate me for being queer and call me slurs all they want, its not their opinion that matters when it comes to dating unless I'm gay. Last time I checked, females are the sexual selectors of the species. A guy asks them out, and they say yes or no. And overwhelmingly, they're saying no, because if they weren't, queerness would be accepted. Women could pretty much eradicate all forms of toxic masculinity (or any other trait they wanted, rea… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/25 01:59 AM |
| 1 | How can women possibly be suffering that badly?We are not saying women are not deserving of sympathy. If you're going to make such a bold and frankly disingenuous claim, please provide proof. We are simply saying that the problems some women face do not validate a disproportionate response of lashing out at all men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/25 01:43 AM |
| 5 | How can women possibly be suffering that badly?I just don't see how women are "forced to keep quiet" when most people are generally so protective of women that men who did nothing wrong get called rapists and murderers. I've been called "the next Elliot Roger" just for saying it would be nice if women tried to woo men and say nice things to them sometimes instead of men having to do all the approaching. We live in a world where a rape allegation can ruin a man's life and the woman won't even be punished for filing one falsely when/if its dis… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/07/25 10:38 PM |
| 7 | How can women possibly be suffering that badly?I think there still is too much pressure on women to be attractive, and using their appearance as a pretense to do favors. Are there though? When I was still dating, the status quo was that any decently attractive woman expected to hook up with only the most 10/10 chads...6 foot guys with a 6 pack and a 6 figure salary. And of course they could expect to get it, because horny fuckbois will sleep with almost any woman as long as she isn't ugly. If you weren't a 10/10 male, you could expect to onl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/07/25 10:24 PM |
| 13 | How can women possibly be suffering that badly?Good point, that even makes the whole "I'm angry at men because Trump got reelected" thing even more ridiculous-sounding. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/07/25 10:12 PM |
| 29 | How can women possibly be suffering that badly?Sure, there are absolutely places like Saudia Arabia where female oppression is still way, way worse than America ever was. Not to downplay that at all, but the purpose of my post is to address first world pop culture feminism, the kind that, as you so eloquently put it, are "appropriating the suffering of the most vulnerable women as part of their own suffering and wearing it like a badge." That is what bothers me, since those are the people that mostly use reddit. Not people pointing out the w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/07/25 06:01 AM |
| 2 | My experiences as an ace guy makes me think that women are just as capable of sexual pressure and assault as men areSometimes I think many supposed "dommes" are actually just women looking to get revenge on men and relish their power over them. Like you said, they know they are desired and have an edge in the dating market, and want to exploit that as much as possible. They don't want to just have fun and find a play partner, they want to be showered with adoration and respect without giving anything in turn. They don't want the responsibility that comes with being a domme, just as many vanilla women don't wa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/07/25 04:46 AM |
| 1 | "It's a dangerous world out there, especially for women"Here's a simple solution. Men, don't try to get women alone in some dark, isolated place where she has no help if you do decide to attack. When I was in college, I only asked women in well lit places with other people around so she wasn't defenseless and could get other people to help if needed. Women, don't go somewhere alone with a man you've never met before. Simple. I honestly don't understand why this is even an issue. Are men teleporting into women's bedrooms at night like some kind of Cre… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/07/25 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Societal obligationbut on the other hand she thinks it’s unfair, since women also has to carry and give birth to children. This is a classic example about how it's all "feminism is about equality" until supposedly "strong women" have to accept some of the responsibilities that come along with that. Then it becomes "women are weaker and have a duty to serve men, actually (except JK not really haha)". If I were you I would point out that the idea I quoted above is complete horseshit and how can she say that with a s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/07/25 04:25 AM |
| 49 | My experiences as an ace guy makes me think that women are just as capable of sexual pressure and assault as men areRespect for male consent basically doesn't exist online. I ran into a situation while discussing kink with a supposed domme who basically made it sound like I was being a misogynist just for existing as a male sub, because apparently "its too stressful for the female dominant to worry about safe words and consent of the male sub's limits". When I pointed out how utterly deranged that sounded, and how much people would be freaking out if the roles where reversed and I said that as a male dom to a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/06/25 04:36 AM |
| 5 | "It's a dangerous world out there, especially for women"Its insane how people cant seem to understand a simple thing like that, isnt it? In 99% of interactions the woman was not in any danger whatsoever but because of that 1%, we had to get punished for someone else's sins. I dont know about you but today I still get panic attacks when Im randomly accused of being a creep on my other accounts (often when innocently discussing unrelated topics). I know logically that I should just ignore what random trolls say, but it brings out a panic induced combat… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/06/25 04:17 AM |
| 1 | "It's a dangerous world out there, especially for women"Hot take but there are much better reasons to give a firm no. Vague answers can be misinterpreted, which may lead to the guy thinking that he still has a chance and maybe just needs to try again later. This could have the opposite effect than intended, where the woman gets approached repeatedly by the same guy. And when the truth does get out, it can lead to the guy just feeling worse than if he was rejected promptly because he was strung along for a while, which increases the chance for a bad r… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/25 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Equity or equal victimhood?Concern trolling in its purest form. OP basically says "hey guys, I agree with you but you need to stop being victims". How are we even supposed to talk about problems without being victims? Thats the definition of the word victims. Answer: there isn't. OP just wants us to shut up and is using pseudo-intellectual buzz words like "epistemological" to disguise that fact. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/25 08:02 PM |
| 28 | What?The first two apply to me (I dont have any kids) and they dont bother me at all. Seriously, who is that insecure? | /r/EverydayMisandry | 23/06/25 07:58 PM |
| 10 | Male disposability is a human right, apparentlyIts all "feminism is about equality" until a woman might suffer in some way, then it becomes "actually women are a baby making resource after all" when convenient. Disgusting. You could say Roosh V wrote this and no one would probably even question it, least of all feminists themselves. Much has been said of the infantilization of women, but this post really shows how feminists are often willing to infantilize themselves. And like many children, they want the perks of being a grown up without an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/25 07:55 PM |
| 29 | The Amazing Atheist makes a disingenuous video about the male loneliness epidemic.The funny thing is that the very first video I ever saw of his was "its only sexist when men do it" where he mocked the hosts of the view for applauding that woman who chopped a guys dick off and threw it down a drain. He correctly pointed out how badly people would be freaking out if a guy did that to a woman's boobs. After that he would go on to own radical feminists in many of his videos and I looked up to him for a long time because of it. Nowadays he's way more woke and mainstream. Its part… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/25 06:39 AM |
| 3 | The “Progressive” Case for Why Women Shouldn’t ProposeAlot of this just boils to "men benefit more from marriage because women are domestic slaves". Excuse me but what world are they living in? Victorian England? Its 2025, most marriages are not like that. If you dont want to be a domestic slave, dont agree to be one? Its really that simple. Seems to me like a strong, confident, independent woman who knows what she wants and gets it wouldnt sit around bitching about how women are supposedly treated like domestic slaves and just go build the life sh… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 23/06/25 06:29 AM |
| 1 | Trans Men Deserve to Be Loved and Respected as MenIm just not sure I agree about the online part of what you said. I have seen a lot of posts straight up trash talking femme/shy/nerdy men, calling them liars and fakers, etc. I will agree though about the celebrity thing. So many women went crazy for Harry Styles when he wore a dress. But that was just a publicity stunt. He isn't even remotely trying to pass as female or femme in that picture, let alone his real/daily life. They dont want an actually queer man, they want a highly masculine man t… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 23/06/25 06:22 AM |
| 2 | Trans Men Deserve to Be Loved and Respected as MenWell Ive always been like one of the men you describe and I've NEVER felt lionized in my life. It got me negative respect from women. Dating was a depressing wasteland full of nothing but rejection. I got told Im a creep, misogynist, etc. Ive never read posts where people talk positively about this either. People trash talk soft males and femboys, calling them perverts or liars or nice guys. The only time that changed was when I finally met my GF at age 28 which was also the first woman who ever… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 20/06/25 07:52 PM |
| 6 | Trans Men Deserve to Be Loved and Respected as MenOn what planet do people romanticize cute smol bean guys? | /r/EverydayMisandry | 20/06/25 07:28 AM |
| 1 | How do we decouple the unspoken idea that a woman’s sexual selection of a man is a form of cosmic justice that rewards him for being a good man?Id tell you but it happened with me using a different account and I try to keep my LWMA life seperate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/06/25 07:26 AM |
| 3 | Femcels being brutally opinionatedThere is so much copium here you could build a whole new periodic table out of it. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 19/06/25 07:18 AM |
| 6 | LWMAs have two choices: leave men’s (sexual) loneliness to the likes of Andrew Tate or address itPeople will say that there are ‘more important issues’ for men and we shouldn’t rock the boat by bringing up this. But how true is that? It's so much more than a problem of guys "not getting their dick wet" as some people might say. Forget the sex part of it. The sexual marketplace, dating norms, and conversation around incels is so absolutely fucked right now that if this continues/worsens, society itself will break down. How are men and women even going to talk to, relate to, and respect each … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/06/25 07:09 AM |
| 4 | "If you feel attacked, you're the problem!"Hey black people, if you feel attacked, you're the problem! Hey jews, if you feel attacked, you're the problem! Yeah, history doesn't paint this argument in a very good light, does it? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/06/25 07:00 AM |
| 5 | Fairytales, girls and boysFairy tales are very often examples of benevolent sexism. Men are stupid, ugly, violent, reckless. Women are clever, pretty, well-behaved, and cool-headed. Women are civilized, men are beasts. Except when they are heroes who basically act as servants, fulfilling the woman's fantasies and rescuing her out of the pure goodness of their heart. The typical feminist response might be "but benevolent sexism is bad!" To which I say, yes it is. But also, at least its not hostile sexism, like what the me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/06/25 06:55 AM |
| 1 | A list of some things feminists seem to not understand due to having female privilegeFemale privilege is being able to be LGBTQ+ without it being seen as a bad thing, being questioned, and called a fetish. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/06/25 06:46 AM |
| 1 | Have you heard of Postgenderism?If there is no gender, how does a trans person distinguish themselves from a cis person? Without gender as a concept the only thing you can use to describe yourself is your biological assigned sex at birth. How can the phrase "I was born with a penis but I identify as a woman" or an equivalency of it exist? The sheer concept as "identifying" as something can't exist without gender. What about styles of dress? There will always be dresses and suits, but how does one linguistically describe the di… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/06/25 06:38 AM |
| 1 | Women with alternative lifestyles don't exist, apparently, and you're scum for thinking they do. Or: Why I dont feel safe posting anywhere but this subreddit anymore.I dont, not really. But its a systemic issue against men that mirrors similar behavoir in real life. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/06/25 07:11 PM |
| 1 | How would you say feminist/ misandrist discourse has affected your personal politics?Sure. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/06/25 07:10 PM |
| 6 | How would you say feminist/ misandrist discourse has affected your personal politics?If anything the aforementioned discourse pushed me farther left wing. It showed me what fake left wing discourse that actually has more in common with conservatism looks like. In trying to refute it I naturally had to adopt more left wing arguments, which at some point I realized were the same arguments I was using against the right wing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/06/25 04:25 AM |
| 2 | male PUA "gurus" are banned from many countries now, meanwhile this is a hyped up new bestseller"Men are dogs. Anyways I as a woman am going to rely on the power of my genitals instead of something else to offer. But its totally the men who are unsophisticated animals tho." ROFL this is projection and self reporting. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/06/25 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Men Should Receive Affection in Relationships TooI understand that and I agree, I just don't understand why this image is here when it is someone who also agrees and didn't express and misandrist viewpoint. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/06/25 04:15 AM |
| -11 | Men Should Receive Affection in Relationships TooHow is this misandry? She is being sympathetic to him and expressing frustration that no one did this to him before so it seems pretty clear that she supports men receiving affection. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/06/25 04:11 AM |
| 13 | How do we decouple the unspoken idea that a woman’s sexual selection of a man is a form of cosmic justice that rewards him for being a good man?I think you hit the nail on the head when you talked about every sub always taking the woman's side in any issue. That is core problem. Gynocentrism. All anyone wants to do is decenter male perspectives while prioritizing female ones. People will also go out of their way to give a woman the benefit of the doubt and interpret whatever she says or does in the most charitable way possible, while treating anything a man says or does in the least charitable way possible. Case and point. I was on a su… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/06/25 07:13 AM |
| 4 | Watch a whole sub fail to understand OP point about men getting mixed signals in society, and end up proving OP point.This reminds me a lot of a post I made on a deleted account more than a decade ago in a mixed gender sub about dating, where I simply asked women to share their opinions about boundaries lines, and what they consider unacceptable behavior. The response I got was very much the same. A bunch of hate and accusations of being creepy, having no social skills, and even the same bizzare "vending machine" comment. But they also refuse to offer guidance on how not to be creepy. So basically what we have … | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/06/25 05:16 PM |
| 11 | so disheartening that some people don't even view men as humanThe statistics actually show the opposite, that rape is actually an incredibly rare occurrence and men are also the majority of violent attack victims, but ok. I dont know which is more frustrating. Seeing boomers quote Fox News as a credible source or feminists quoting Tumblr and Buzzfeed. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 28/05/25 05:41 AM |
| 15 | Women with alternative lifestyles don't exist, apparently, and you're scum for thinking they do. Or: Why I dont feel safe posting anywhere but this subreddit anymore.They're riding the dopamine high of the realization that society is set up to cater to female sexuality. Men pay, men approach, men have to conform to strict standards, men WANT. Women ARE wanted. In hookup culture, she got to be this hot young thing. Get all the guys she wanted. Everyone was clamoring for her, making her feel special for zero effort. OF is the logical extension of that. Once the high isn't good enough anymore, she needs to intensify it. It's not enough to just be the object of … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/25 09:33 PM |
| 26 | Women with alternative lifestyles don't exist, apparently, and you're scum for thinking they do. Or: Why I dont feel safe posting anywhere but this subreddit anymore.Christian Grey, literal abuser = hot stud Anonymous man fapping to consensual porn that doesn't degrade women in any way = spiteful misogynist | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/25 09:21 PM |
| 35 | Women with alternative lifestyles don't exist, apparently, and you're scum for thinking they do. Or: Why I dont feel safe posting anywhere but this subreddit anymore.Ive spoken to some so called "dommes" once. They say that dominating is not fun, its a lot of hard work. (To that I say, try digging ditches.) That its less fun than being a sub. And they wouldnt do it "just for fun" without some kind of compensation. Ok so why are you a domme then? Because they dont actually enjoy being a femdom, they just see a niche market. They dont want a play partner, they want pay piggies. Dare to criticize them and they misappropriate social justice grievance language to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/25 08:16 PM |
| 19 | Women with alternative lifestyles don't exist, apparently, and you're scum for thinking they do. Or: Why I dont feel safe posting anywhere but this subreddit anymore.There are also plenty of women who find sex work, or porgraphy empowering (as well they should). From interviews Ive seen, most porn actresses and really chill and cool with their fans. But other women standing on the sideline ridicule men for consuming porn, while praising the women who make it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/25 08:11 PM |
| 6 | Stop glorifying "masculinity"I dont really have a horse in this race as Im a "queer sissy" (according to "progressives"), but the majority of men identity as masc so its not a pointless topic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/25 04:24 PM |
| 14 | Feminism is incompleteI like to say "the left isn't woke enough for me" because its true. A lot of the performative SJW crap that people think of is not actually "woke". True woke is talking about wealth inequality. A social safety net. Rising housing costs. Completely abolishing gender roles, instead of simply redefining them in a way that benefits women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/25 04:18 PM |
| 42 | Women with alternative lifestyles don't exist, apparently, and you're scum for thinking they do. Or: Why I dont feel safe posting anywhere but this subreddit anymore.Fantastic point. Yes, its literally projection. They want a harem of men worshipping them like a goddess yet they accuse those same worshippers of wanting the same. Someone who is so quick to think everyone else is a certain way, is usually that way themselves. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/25 04:05 PM |
| 2 | What are your essential book recommendations?Ironically, the Invisible Man by Ralph Elison is a great read. Its about the horrors a black man faced in pre civil rights society. Alot of the themes are relevant even today and have transcended race to gender (men unfairly being labeled as threats by society). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/25 03:56 PM |
| 3 | Billie Eilish Being Exposed for Her HypocrisyMeanwhile, on tinder the exact opposite is being proven every day. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 26/05/25 03:50 PM |
| 6 | These can be found all over the UK right now.Imagine the outrage at "girls will be what we teach them to be" | /r/EverydayMisandry | 26/05/25 03:42 PM |
| 25 | The mockery of male lonelinessMy entire online experience as an extremely queer and nontraditional man has been nothing but hate and bullying from women and the male simps who serve them. I've been told things like "You're the same as the men we're complaining about." "Ok, so youre exclusively dating shy, nerdy, feminine, bisexual, intersex crossdressers then?" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/25 04:30 AM |
| 4 | The mockery of male lonelinessIt turns out there actually was a gender all along that was privileged in one area: confidence, and its women, not men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/25 04:27 AM |
| 14 | I made this meme to broadly describe our current situation, and why it is so hard for us to speak upWomen are the sexual selectors of the species. They could systemically breed out toxic masculinity in just a generation or two, just by choosing kind, sensitive, progressive men. A very good question to ask would be: "Why the hell aren't they?" You could go so far as to say that some women being selfish and devoid of empathy is societally reinforced. Software, not hardware as it were. It gives room to avoid accusations of misogyny because you're not saying its an inescapable reality. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/25 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Some books I have recently read that I want to recommend to this sub for subverting the misandrist tropes often seen in more mainstream media.Can you give a more in depth explanation on this one? The summary sounds interesting but I'm not sure how it subverts misandrist tropes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/25 03:41 AM |
| 162 | I made this meme to broadly describe our current situation, and why it is so hard for us to speak upThird road: "Evolution encouraged both sexes to exploit the other for selfish gain in different ways, but unfortunately the ways in which men historically exploited women are more commonly recognized as evil, while the ways in which women exploited men are still ignored or even excused. Freeing both sexes from traditional gender roles would be idea but unfortunately society only really achieved that for women and has yet to achieve it for men." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/25 03:39 AM |
| 2 | Just, pure misandryWhat does it say about women if we're stupid yet able to dominate them so easily? This is literally self-ownage. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/05/25 03:34 AM |
| 2 | "Emotional support animal" - because men being vulnerable is supposed to be bad..?I doubt all of the non-douchy guys she met had literally "no friends, no social life". Maybe it just isn't a vibrant and extroverted as yours. Maybe you have unrealistic standards. Sometimes people can have too many friends. In the words of Oregairu: "Someone who is liked by everyone can't be loved by someone". For real though, this is the absolutely state of modern dating. So many women see it as a dichotomy like this, where there are only these 2 exact types of guys. And guess what? Your perce… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/05/25 03:33 AM |
| 13 | Men are either superheroes or supervillains. There is no in between.I hate the damsel in distress trope. Not just because its sexist to women (though it definitely is) but because its also sexist to men. It basically says "the only way you have any value is if you're unrealistic badass who slaughters legions of goombas to save me from Bowser's castle". I wish more people discussed this trope in THAT context, because it definitely goes both ways. A lot of classical media and tropes reduce men to their utility. Would Zelda still love Link if he wasn't able to save… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/25 03:28 AM |
| 10 | The term “mansplain” isn’t just sexist hate speech, it is often also a narcissistic deflection people resort to when they feel intellectually inadequate."Arguing that you're not mansplaining is exactly what a mansplainer would do". It's evocative of the same logic as the red scare, french revolution, etc. "Only a commie/bourgeois would deny they are one." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/25 03:20 AM |
| 7 | The term “mansplain” isn’t just sexist hate speech, it is often also a narcissistic deflection people resort to when they feel intellectually inadequate.The dumbest part of it is that the whole premise is "men explain things to me I already know". As you just pointed out, sometimes women legitimately need something explained because they don't know. (Not because they're dumb women though). But lets assume they did know. Why not just stand up for herself and politely let the man know she's already aware of that subject? That's what I would expect a strong-willed, individualistic, self-assured woman who sees herself as equal to men to do. That las… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/25 03:18 AM |
| 1 | Invalidating men’s issues is counterproductive to feminism.Yes? But I don't. So it doesn't make sense to argue with me against a position I don't believe in. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/25 03:13 AM |
| 7 | This sub has made me less misandrist towards straight menYeah this is literally the same logic as racist republicans that are all "Oh I only called Cosby the n word because he's a rapist, not all black people are n words if they're high class and white acting". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/25 03:11 AM |
| 2 | Do other male leftists find the whole "life" experience alienating and isolating af ?? (living in a pretty progressist area, personally socialized into woke circles but almost asocial now)Going to assume you mean liberal even though that's not the same thing. Most people who say they are, actually aren't. They use weird leaps of logic that horseshoe around back to being conservative. This applies to everything. There are people who are actually liberal, or at least as close as you can get while ignoring issues from half the species, that might potentially be swayed. But its a lot of risk/investment required to do that with your friends and family. For instance, I have some people… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/25 06:12 AM |
| 146 | This sub has made me less misandrist towards straight men"Beta", "incel", "cuck", etc. are all just variations of the same thing: saying a man is a loser because he is isn't a real man (i.e. feminine) in some way. They appeal to this hyper idealized, self-serving, outdated, masturbatory fantasy of what masculinity/men are that is actually very derogatory towards women as well for obvious reasons. I remember too when supposedly progressive people used to use these a lot more, literally co-opting words from an actually misogynist group. Sometimes they s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/25 05:54 AM |
| 7 | SureThis is like if a 7 year old tried to summarize the nuances of the gender war while understanding nothing about the real world. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 20/05/25 05:48 AM |
| 4 | As If Average Women Don’t Say Similar Things About MenLiterally just projection. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 20/05/25 05:46 AM |
| 6 | The phrase "men were the ones who created patriarchy" is just a deflection from pointing out their Cakism and hypocrisy when it comes to male gender roles.As if women never benefited from or supported patriarchy at all. As if female leaders never existed. They are literally erasing the impact women had on history and assigning no agency or relevance to them--yet we're the misogynists. Real life is stranger than fiction indeed. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/25 05:46 AM |
| 4 | Invalidating men’s issues is counterproductive to feminism.If you read my comment more closely, you will notice I only referred to patriarchy in a historical sense. Claiming that patriarchy exists now is ridiculous, yes, but that isn't the claim I made. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/05/25 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Misandrist finds way to label the vast majority of men in the past as rapistsWouldn't they be more like professional prostitutes since they traded sex for money? See, I can oversimplify things too. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 15/05/25 05:23 AM |
| 7 | Latest reason to hate ALL men ? Literally, for just existing and standing in a line (queue)"Strong independent women" can't handle men standing near them in public. What else is new? | /r/EverydayMisandry | 15/05/25 05:19 AM |
| 8 | Invalidating men’s issues is counterproductive to feminism.I don't think a lot of men these days (at least younger generations, particularly millennials and younger) actually want very traditionally feminine women. I think most guys my age (I'm 30) either like the idea of a strong, independent woman or are neutral to it. At the very least, we are woke to the oppressive role of being a protector/provider that men struggled with in the past and don't want to fall victim to that. Then again, its also a different world, as two incomes are needed to survive … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/05/25 05:14 AM |
| 1 | Japanese Women on Gender Gap in Japan (Interview)Japan is weirdly both more progressive and less progressive than the West. Like sure, it can actually be more patriarchal and traditional in some ways, but women are also acknowledging the problems that causes men as well without hating them. I remember when an Japanese eroge company published a series of visual novels about homosexual crossdressing men, and Americans attacked it for being transphobic. They do the same thing with feminine men in manga, changing their pronouns to she/her. Its biz… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/05/25 04:43 AM |
| 33 | Invalidating men’s issues is counterproductive to feminism.These self-proclaimed progressives, aren't. They're secret conservatives. I've thought for a long time that many women who perpetuate this kind of thinking must have a very deep and probably very soul-crushing form of cognitive dissonance. They've been taught that they should be strong and independent (more like men, traditionally) and want men who are (more like women, traditionally) which is all fine and good. But the thing is, they don't actually want that. But they don't want to admit it in … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/05/25 04:28 AM |
| 2 | The way male characters are portrayed in fiction is frustrating.How in the world is Superman an "underdog" character? You also have him in category #1 (which is accurate) but those two categories are mutually exclusive. I disagree with some of your points: aloof, stoic, edgy, etc. are often loved by mainstream audiences, especially women when it comes to romance media (though notably many will often say the exact opposite when not behind closed doors). I mean there is a reason "bodice rippers" and harlequin romance novels like 50 Shades exist. There is a ver… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/05/25 03:40 AM |
| 1 | Femcels want to enslave men and treat them like litteral dogs:Ok got it, I just didn't understand at first but that makes sense now | /r/EverydayMisandry | 11/05/25 09:50 PM |
| 2 | Femcels want to enslave men and treat them like litteral dogs:No its fine, I'm just trying to figure out what you're trying to say with the religion metaphor, because I honestly have no clue. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 11/05/25 09:49 PM |
| 2 | Femcels want to enslave men and treat them like litteral dogs:Are you saying men don't love their wives enough, so that is why the wives don't return the favor and real role reversal doesn't work? | /r/EverydayMisandry | 10/05/25 06:00 AM |
| 2 | Men were more lonely but now articles say women are more lonely. Why the change?Men are conditioned to be less open about their emotions, especially in a climate where saying you feel lonely is like saying "I'm an incel who thinks he is entitled to women's bodies" in most people's eyes. So naturally less are going to admit it compared to the actual number. That said I do understand why plenty of women would also be unsatisfied with the current paradigm. They're pressured to practice hookup culture, hypergamy, ignore sensitive men, and pursue "traditional" aggressive, brutis… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/25 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Male loneliness or male isolation epidemic?Yeah I just don't understand this "just hug your bros more" mentality so many people in our movement seem to promote. It holds us back and undermines our grievances with society. They are literally playing into the hands of those who hate us and want to keep us unhappy. If someone can't understand why receiving love and trust and acceptance from the group that normally vilifies you would be a big deal, then arguing with them is hopeless. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/25 05:48 AM |
| 1 | What did they get right and what did they get wrong? (Masculinity Debate: Are Dating Apps Creating Incels?! Lonely Men Are More Dangerous Than Ever!)If a small number of men are dating most of the women, it would explain why there are more lonely men than women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/25 05:44 AM |
| 3 | What did they get right and what did they get wrong? (Masculinity Debate: Are Dating Apps Creating Incels?! Lonely Men Are More Dangerous Than Ever!)Either these grifters really were GF-less losers and they're pretending they did have GFs to establish credibility, or they are lying about being losers for the same reason. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/25 05:43 AM |
| 1 | What did they get right and what did they get wrong? (Masculinity Debate: Are Dating Apps Creating Incels?! Lonely Men Are More Dangerous Than Ever!)Every time I fall for it and check out a clickbait title like this it ends up being controlled opposition, with a few minor but notable exceptions. So I just ignore them and would advise others to do the same. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/25 05:36 AM |
| 2 | People are suspicious of me around children without reasonWhat's really disgusting when you stop to think about it is that people are also suspicious of men around adult women in exactly the same way. The way you described the vibe of people feeling like you're trespassing but don't want to admit it resonates with me so much. This happened to me so many times I was alone with a woman, or even just talked to her in public, especially if I made a romantic advance that was unwanted. It's fucked up because it basically infantilizes women and equates them t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/25 05:32 AM |
| 2 | Am I the only one who just doesn’t like the concept of “masculinity”?The idea of there being a right/wrong way to be ANY gender is idiotic. You're a man if you identify as one. That is literally the only requirement. Same with women or non-binary. End of story. Masculine does not mean "male". Feminine does not mean "female". Feminine men are valid. Unfortunately this kind of discourse basically ignores our existence. Instead, the focus should be on eradicating all gender roles for both men and women. Since the latter has basically been achieved already, the forme… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/25 05:21 AM |
| 5 | They are not our alliesIt's absolutely baffling to me how they can say with a straight face "women being drafted in equal numbers alongside men is gendered violence, but drafting only men isn't". Congratulations, this is how you create a generation of bitter men that will absolutely refuse to defend the country if needed. Ancient societies knew this and created an alternative incentive structure to reward men for the risk of fighting and dying in wars, which was the glory of coming back from war and having access to h… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/25 05:12 AM |
| 2 | Femcels want to enslave men and treat them like litteral dogs:Yeah I agree 100%. I for one do find the idea of a woman bigger/stronger than me quite appealing, but that isn't the most important totality of what role reversal actually is. In fact I got banned from there on an alt account that women should actually don the traditionally male role you describe. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 10/05/25 04:55 AM |
| 4 | I’m a woman and I want to helpVery few, honestly. The culture war is fought over the silent majority of moderate centrists trying to sway them to one side or the other by telling them that the other side is worse. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/25 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Femcels accuse men of praying on women while displaying extremely predatory (and even genocidal) behavior toward men:Its gut wrenching to see how utterly hypnotized so many women are by dating apps. Here we have one who's been conditioned to use them to such a degree that she keeps doing it even though she understands its a dangerous vehicle of exploitation, but instead of doing the logical thing and just stopping her use of them she keeps on doing it and simply blames men as the problem. Like at a certain point I almost want to be sympathetic to her. I can see how the instant attention and ego validation thos… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/04/25 05:43 AM |
| 1 | What a StrawmanThey tried to play UNO reverse and only reversed themselves. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/04/25 05:33 AM |
| 4 | Another Day, Another Insane GeneralizationI feel like any time women say stuff like this, they're just tattling on themselves for having very poor taste in men, because they're exclusively hanging out with a very small minority of troglodytes so frequently that they think that's what all men are like. Like girl, go out and experience the real world and stop dating fuckbois on tinder. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/04/25 05:32 AM |
| 2 | What if the people on misogynistic subs like r/theredpill, r/MGTOW, etc. were women trying to make men look bad?I like how the responder to the top comment excused saying "men are trash" as "just venting". By that logic incels are "just venting" when they say nasty things about women then, no? I'm certainly not going to take the opinion of someone who says my gender is trash seriously, whether they mean it facetiously or not. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/04/25 05:29 AM |
| 1 | What if the people on misogynistic subs like r/theredpill, r/MGTOW, etc. were women trying to make men look bad?Its certainly possible. Such tactics are the logical extension of the culture war. Not that it 100% accounts for misogyny, of course. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/04/25 05:26 AM |
| 3 | Femcels want to enslave men and treat them like litteral dogs:To be fair, the first slide is probably from a role-reversal or fetish sub and makes sense within that context where the understanding is that they're making tongue-in-cheek joke. I still find the imagine a bit uncomfortable because not everyone shares those fetishes but w/e. The other slides are absolutely disgusting, though. Also I remember when people (quite fairly) ruthlessly mocked incels for using disgusting terms like "foids". Now it seems people are openly doing the same thing to men. Jo… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/04/25 05:20 AM |
| 3 | How Dare Men Receive Praise for AnythingSlides, in order. Both men and women commit crimes. Point? When was that written, the roaring 20's? Women are perfectly capable of financial independence in this day and age. There is no social barrier against it, so what are you saying? Are they just mentally incompetent then? (They're not, plenty of rich women exist.) Plenty of women, such as Marie Curie, contributed so science as well and ignoring their contributions is sexist. Allow me to submit to the court the existence of one Elizabeth Bá… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/04/25 05:15 AM |
| 11 | TheTinMen's post on men is really heartbreakingHonestly that doesn't even annoy me as much as when they try to turn it around on you like you're somehow the racist for pointing out racist stuff and explaining how its racist while saying its bad because its racist. I made a post on here a while ago about how saying "man vs. bear" would be totally different if it was "black man vs. bear" and a feminist watchdog sub cross posted it, calling me a racist. I guess because they assumed I'm a white man (which I am, but they have no way of knowing th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/25 05:06 AM |
| 2 | When did Trump pay lip service to mens issues?He didn't, people basically just painted him as being pro-male by default because the regressive left is anti-male (which is one of the most illogical things ever. The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend). It's part of this whole mystique he's created around himself that he is somehow the silver bullet to "wokeism" when he's not. Which is why we've only seen him do a bunch of token gestures against "wokeism" that really don't amount to anything since taking office. You have to understa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/25 05:00 AM |
| 23 | TheTinMen's post on men is really heartbreakingNo, see, you're showing how historical racist propaganda is the same thing as what I, a feminist, believes, so therefore that means you're the racist because I'm enlightened and can't be racist...or something like that. /s No, seriously. This has been said to me before. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/25 04:53 AM |
| 31 | TheTinMen's post on men is really heartbreakingThe slide where it says "are dating apps creating incels" is such a perfect encapsulation of this problem that I almost LOL'd. Like no shit sherlock. Dating apps are probably the single worst thing that ever happened for the majority of men and anyone who doesn't realize that at this point is so privileged that they've become an out of touch reactionary. It may as well say "are apps that are designed to make men feel worthless and unloved by a culture that wants men to feel worthless and unloved… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/25 04:49 AM |
| 1 | "Training in "male psychology" is generally not required in clinical psychology training programs. "Probably not. Since most therapists are women they're probably already considered experts because the female viewpoint is the only one they want to teach anyway. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/25 04:44 AM |
| 1 | "Training in "male psychology" is generally not required in clinical psychology training programs. "I mean its no surprise really when the whole foundation of therapy as a concept is more catered towards female psychology. I.E. the very principle of talking about problems instead of trying to take tangible steps to fix them. I remember when I was in therapy, it was like pulling teeth to get my therapist to do anything practical for me. As soon as I got what I wanted, I stopped seeing her so I can't say the experience was necessarily negative, but that certainly won't be the case for everyone a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/25 04:43 AM |
| 1 | "Training in "male psychology" is generally not required in clinical psychology training programs. "Possibly one of the most chilling quotes of all time. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/25 04:39 AM |
| 2 | I’m a woman and I want to helpI don’t care about recognition, fame, money, or power. I’m only motivated for love of my sons. That's very admirable. It sounds like your sons are lucky to have a mother like you. Yeah I know that success is unlikely, but it’s bothering me so much that I feel like I’d rather try and fail than not do anything. I think this is the right attitude to take. I like to remind myself sometimes that it must have seemed very pointless for every disadvantaged group throughout history to keep struggling, bu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/25 04:37 AM |
| 4 | I’m a woman and I want to helpTo answer u/ZealousidealCrazy393 's question, it is happening as you said, its just sadly going to take a lot longer than our lifetimes for the consequences to be felt and the balance of power to shift back in a more egalitarian direction again. Assuming of course it does even become egalitarian. It could just as easily become balanced in the favor of men. And while I won't deny there is a part of me that would take pleasure in seeing the roles reversed, in the long run I really don't hope that … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/25 04:32 AM |
| 22 | I’m a woman and I want to helpI'm not the OP but I'd like to take a crack at answering this question. I don't think "women don't need men the same way that men need women" means that women don't need men at all. Both men and women need each other (at least among heterosexually inclined folks). Rather, its about a power imbalance. Women have so much more power and control in the sexual marketplace than men do. A woman can passively receive hundreds if not thousands of ego-boosting messages and offers from men on a dating app … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/25 11:14 PM |
| 3 | I’m a woman and I want to helpHistory shows that even women who argued quite eloquently against gynocentricism like Esther Villar and Nora Vincent weren't taken particularly seriously either. I'm not saying you shouldn't try, not at all. In fact I applaud you for the effort because giving up is not the solution either. Someone has to try and frankly I think you're correct that a woman stands a better chance than a man does, unfortunately. All I'm doing is counseling you not to automatically think people will listen just beca… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/25 11:08 PM |
| 4 | Using “incel” as an insult is immoral and obnoxious.It's not about toxic masculinity. It never was. It was about control. You see the same pattern with religion. It was never about the dogma. And like the medieval church, the people preaching against sins were the ones engaging in it the most, while those who actually led a life without sin were punished. Incel has become the feminist equivalent of original sin. Create an existential punishment, tell people they're going to receive it by default because they're inherently evil and flawed due to d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/25 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Something we can actually do: fix lonelinessOn the contrary, I think acting as if a man SHOULD be able to feel complete without a woman is very invalidating and dismissive of men who do need one in their lives. Same reason why it would be disrespectful to say the opposite, because it would be ignoring men who are ARO. Also, I think blinding accepting that love is something that many men can't have is a defeatist attitude. That's what the regressive left wants you to do. Personally, I am never going to shut up about male loneliness it beca… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/25 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Something we can actually do: fix lonelinessI had friends and social interaction but was still miserably depressed. There is something an SO can give you that platonic friends cannot. Its not just about being lonely, its about feeling like a failure. It's about thinking you're going to die alone. It's about thinking that women will never, ever really trust you and only see you as a disgusting monster. Are there some people who don't need romance? Sure. I can only speak for myself and I'm not one of them. I felt like there was a piece of m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/03/25 05:29 AM |
| 2 | The ideas of masculinity and femininity are inherently sexistThe way I see it, there are both admirable qualities and toxic qualities about both gender roles. So why can't people just take the admirable qualities of both and combine them into one thing? This is basically kind of already what's happening with women. Virtues like being strong and independent are already accepted as part of femininity. Women have worn pants, worked, owned property, etc. for years. There basically are no gender roles for women, they've become completely androgenized. They get… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/03/25 05:21 AM |
| 16 | Using “incel” as an insult is immoral and obnoxious.The dumbest thing about it that just at a linguistic level, it literally means "involuntary celibate". If there was ever a time any guy, even a so called "chad", got horny and wanted sex but didn't have it (which happens to every guy, every day at work or wherever else), then he was an incel in that moment. So really every guy is technically an incel. Of course, that's not what people actually mean. They mean "virgin". Or maybe not even that, just a guy who hasn't had sex in a long time. Which, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/03/25 05:12 AM |
| 1 | “It kills me that you think you’re good enough” Is Something an Abuser Says to Their VictimI like how in most of these the picture they paint of all men is so obviously just their ex boyfriend. They're basing their entire idea of men just off of their own poor choices and inability to pick good men, so they rationalize it and protect their ego by telling themselves all men are like that. One of the most embarrassingly self-serving mental gymnastics I've ever seen. Maybe stop dating trash guys? Its not rocket science. Or maybe they actually like trash guys and feel disgusted with thems… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 29/03/25 08:52 AM |
| 10 | Misandry’s impact on young menI too was a of a similar age during the rise of 3rd wave feminism and felt inspired to write about some of my experiences by this post. I think the most damaging thing for me was constantly getting rejected for seemingly doing nothing wrong and often in harsh ways. Sometimes there was just this instant coldness and look of "what the fuck do you think you are doing, actually talking to me in public right now". Other times it wasn't so overt. Being misdirected with techniques like giving out a fak… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/25 08:37 AM |
| 1 | Incels: New studyWell then how is most of the hate directed towards incels ableism? | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/03/25 04:14 AM |
| 6 | Using a Sensitive Case, just to generalize man for their misandry quotes is next level of sexist.Imagine you're her. You're in the afterlife looking down and you see a bunch of spoiled feminists comparing their "worst thing that ever happened to them" (which was probably just being said hello to by a guy that was too short) to 44 days of literal hell. Unreal. I bet whoever made this never even heard of her until they looked up information about rape victims trying to find an image for their meme. This shit is pure disrespect to a woman who already suffered more than enough. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/03/25 04:13 AM |
| 3 | Its apparently not offensive, but incredibly smart, to run a police background check on someone you're datingI love the one comment saying "just use your observation skills" because it highlights the irony of how people say men are the ones plagued by autism and lack of social skills when really it can also be the other way around... | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/03/25 07:58 AM |
| 1 | "Men are soft now"Did a feminist actually post this or a conservative? Like I know they are basically the same thing now but the distinction matters. My response would be different if Tate posted this than if a supposed "liberal" did it. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/03/25 07:55 AM |
| 6 | Using a Sensitive Case, just to generalize man for their misandry quotes is next level of sexist.Its insane. These kinds of mental gymnastics are so depressing to me because they reveal the catastrophic damage that has been done. Women have been groomed to perceive safety as danger and danger as safety. Like, I'm not normally one to go on and on about issues affecting women on a men's sub, but seriously, I feel so bad for women of my generation and younger. They're being told men are out to get them and the solution is to run straight to the arms of the men who are actually out to get them.… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/03/25 07:52 AM |
| 7 | Why do women get blamed for choosing the wrong men but men don't get blamed for choosing the wrong women? /sBecause men don't do the choosing. We do the asking. The woman has the privilege of getting to be the approached, the chooser. Yet another example of female privilege somehow being misogyny. You'd think they'd eventually figure out that trying to turn privileges like this one into oppressions just calls more attention to those unequal privileges in the first place. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/03/25 07:44 AM |
| 3 | Incels: New studyI mostly agree with you but I really don't think autism is the main cause of incels. One of them, surely. But there others too. Like some women having unreasonable, hypocritical standards about men. For example, feeling entitled to not having to deal with a man they don't like asking them out because they perceive it as "lowering their value" and gaslighting him into thinking he should have somehow known her answer before asking. Or women feeling threatened by a guy they don't like politely talk… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/03/25 07:40 AM |
| 7 | Incels: New studyThe language of "mindreading" gives me cause for concern. I think that specific use of language is telling. Mind reading is literally impossible but there is often a dialogue in mainstream culture about men needing to read women's minds anyway. Now sure, obviously there are ways to know what a person thinks/feels without them telling you, but the question is where do you draw that line? In my personal life there have been times where I felt that I did everything I reasonably could have to take s… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/03/25 07:36 AM |
| 20 | Using a Sensitive Case, just to generalize man for their misandry quotes is next level of sexist.Dude you so hit the nail on the head. We live in a culture that encourages women to take risky behaviors like that which are actually harming them (though its still a small minority which is overblown), and then we turn around and blame people who had nothing to do with it instead of dealing with actual problem. Its almost like...hold on a minute...they don't actually want to fix the problem. But who benefits from that? Gee I wonder... | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/03/25 07:26 AM |
| 12 | Using a Sensitive Case, just to generalize man for their misandry quotes is next level of sexist.I legit felt a shiver of disgust go down my spine when I saw this. Disgusting that they are using a tragedy like what happened to her as a political maneuver. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/03/25 07:24 AM |
| 17 | Except when women choose the bear, apparently it's "okay"Classic feminism. When we do share we're trauma dumping, when we don't share we're being toxic. For real though, this tree thing is a zinger. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/03/25 07:20 AM |
| 5 | This has to be stopped. Men deserve the same degree of freedom of expression as womenYeah that makes me think more than anything this was going to be mostly aimed at boys. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/03/25 07:19 AM |
| 11 | This has to be stopped. Men deserve the same degree of freedom of expression as womenTrue but the way its worded, it would also apply to gender non conforming people that aren't trans. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/03/25 07:17 AM |
| 7 | Is it just me, or is this whole “gamers think female characters are ugly” is massively overblown?Its stupid on both sides. Sometimes people complain about the way a female character looks when they aren't even ugly. And then other times, people will say a character is "unrealistically sexy" when they're modelled after a real person (Stellar Blade). There is definitely some truth to the idea that some games are trying to desexualize female characters but yes, you're correct, its overblown. I can think of only a few legit examples. I'm of the opinion that games are for entertainment, not real… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/03/25 07:13 AM |
| 4 | A Netflix series regarding the manosphere and teen guysI had some hope for this seeing the boy get unfairly castigated and attacked, but then I saw them say this as if its some kind of jump scare: "80% of women are attracted to 20% of men" Yeah where's the lie in that lmao? Something tells me they are not going to seriously explore this issue and instead treat the above like a fringe radical viewpoint, and make it seem like accepting it is the same as condoning violence against women. Its possible to believe the 80/20 split thing and not advocate vi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/03/25 09:34 AM |
| 5 | "Not all men, but always a man"Women commit crimes less often not because they're better people. They commit crimes less often because they were never the victims of a system that encouraged ruthlessness and aggression in half the human species for thousands of years. A system that was in part perpetrated by what again? Oh right. Female sexual selection. For thousands of years the biggest, most brutal caveman (we'll call him Thag) was the one who got to pass on his genes. With a system like that, its surprising there aren't m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/03/25 09:25 AM |
| 8 | What are some other examples of men getting in trouble for not interacting with women?Pretty simple example is men getting called incel if they haven't have sex/many relationships with women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/03/25 09:07 AM |
| 1 | Understanding where the people who are here are coming fromCenter left, but not a democrat. Modern day establishment democrats like Biden or Clinton have nothing to do with liberal politics. They're center right at best. That's still left of Trump, sure, but not left overall. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/03/25 09:05 AM |
| 1 | Becuase the right is homophobic and the left is (openly) hostile towards men, gay/bi men don’t have anywhere to go.Genuinely curious how the left is hostile to gay men. Bi and straight men I can understand, because I have direct experience with it. The issue being the attraction to women is seen as predatory, with moral panics over female sexual harassment and attributing blame to innocuous behaviors of all female-attracted men. But gay men don't pursue women, so I'm not sure where the issue would be for modern day radical leftists. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 08/03/25 09:03 AM |
| 26 | Reddit says NO to male self-defense against female physical assault.Yeah this is not "self-defense". Sounds like he retaliated with a way harder slap than was necessary. She was still in the wrong, but so was he, and two wrongs don't make a right. The mature thing to do would be to not attack someone that is apologizing and be the bigger person. That said, its not like the husband was acting like an unforgivable monster either. This is a simple case of an altercation getting out of hand in a way that ultimately didn't end up being a big deal. The internet defini… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 08/03/25 08:57 AM |
| 2 | So being a victim of CSA makes me an instant "creepy man"This is like the equivalent of a kid who gets bullied so they go home and write overly indulgent fanfic about how they're actually a superhero and give the cool kids wedgies and steal their girlfriends. They're just making shit up to fulfill their desperate fantasy because their own life is lacking in some way. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/02/25 07:48 AM |
| 1 | Video Games = Bad 🤔I just want to say that if I were rescued from Bowser by a woman that sure would make me feel a lot more attracted to her. These kinds of people don't understand how human emotions work. People like people who do nice things for them. Well, most sane, non man hating people do... | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/02/25 07:43 AM |
| 4 | Breaking Points: SHOE0NHEAD Responds To Male Loneliness BacklashI feel like they danced around the core of the issue here. What do we need to do is pretty simple. Ask the 80% why they want to chase the 20%. Ask why gender nonconformity is embraced in women but not in men. Ask why women date guys who are the exact opposite of what they say they want. And persist until we get some serious answers. There will probably be lots of very ugly backlash, but its the only way. Until the vast majority of women seriously evaluate their preferences, nothing will change. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/02/25 07:36 AM |
| 1 | From 4bmovement. You can literally throw a dart and find this kind of thing.That bottom comment is literally writing fanfiction about a theoretical straw man who doesn't even exist. Could this get any more pathetic? | /r/EverydayMisandry | 14/02/25 04:41 AM |
| 1 | Opposite day Taken LiterallyFunny, when I remember being a lonely young man complaining about constantly getting rejected by women, I would get told things like "don't worry, they're missing out, you're a good catch" by both women and men. But I guess that didn't happen and I was just supposed to have zero confidence and act like a pathetic worm who doesn't think women are missing out by not dating him. But wait, what was that other platitude we always got told? Be more confident? Huh, seems like a paradox to me... Nice tr… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 14/02/25 04:37 AM |
| 2 | “Men don’t have empathy for or humanize women.”Yeah I'd rather be a woman risking pregnancy than a man being alive while aged 18-25 (the U.S. drafting age). I'm glad I'm aged out of that now, but it was pretty scary time for me, especially with the way politics was going. I was potentially going to have to pay the price for political decisions made in part by women. But would they be watching my back in the foxhole? No. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 14/02/25 04:26 AM |
| 2 | “Men don’t have empathy for or humanize women.”"One of the reasons women don't want to hear that being drafted into war is hard, scary, even life-threatening is because it demands empathy and humanization of men. The same reason they're angry over guys talking about wanting girlfriend robots. Men are supposed to be silent martyrs." Now lets compare how many people die in war vs. pregnancy...oh wait, its not even comparable. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 14/02/25 04:19 AM |
| 8 | The Man Carrying Thing Makes Fun of Male LonelinessThe inclusion of the line "women should be nicer to us" as if that's some kind of ridiculous statement on par with all the other things he's saying is what really disturbs me. People are literally disagreeing with statements as benign and basic as women being nice to men. They don't think we even deserve that level of decency. Yet of course they think men should be nice to women. But oh, walk a tightrope and don't be a nice guy *TM* either... This is why so many men are turning to the right. The… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/02/25 04:14 AM |
| 2 | What are your honest thoughts on "Patriarchy"?Its real but not as feminists define it. Because most of them, just like most non-feminist women as well, are complicit in creating it. They create it every time they enforce traditional gender roles for men but not for women. They create it every time they decry non-traditional virgin men as incels. They create it every time they promote conservative values by selectively discarding equality when it benefits them. They create it when they practice hypergamy despite claiming to be a strong indep… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/02/25 04:02 AM |
| 1 | How can a human being be so fucking dense?Apparently they missed the fact that men still have dramatically higher occupational death rates even with all that safety gear. I know which risk I'd rather take. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 14/02/25 03:44 AM |
| 3 | Name me one guy who was saved from any rape accusation (true or false), who isn’t a rich guy, celebrity, politician, or someone with really good connections to famous figures.This is like setting up a minefield and then standing in the middle of it shouting "why won't anyone come over here and talk to me!" False accusations are also ruining women's lives indirectly. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/02/25 06:27 AM |
| 1 | This comment section is disgustingI love seeing their insecurity so exposed. It gives me the same feeling as those "alpha male" podcast grifter guys trying to do mental gymnastics to explain their weird ideology. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/02/25 06:24 AM |
| 1 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?Anyway, is so out of touch with its wishful thinking it can't even factor in women's desires truthfully. Agreed. Most don't actually want to be liberated. Sadly they just want feel liberated and be told that they are. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/25 06:41 AM |
| 2 | "Men need to build themselves better support systems"Personally, I don't care what's considered masculine or feminine. I openly and proudly do a lot of things that could be considered feminine and hate it when people try to enforce traditional gender roles. Its not like I'm saying I'd complain or be offended if someone expressed empathy for my issues. Its a nice thing to have and obviously a lot better than people being neutral or showing disdain. It just doesn't actually do anything to fix the core problem. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 02/02/25 06:27 AM |
| -8 | "Men need to build themselves better support systems"The real problem is that most men don't want "support systems" because we like finding solutions, not talking about our feelings. I can't speak for everyone but in my case, the latter just makes things worse. What would have helped me when I was depressed and lonely was society fixing itself to not create those situations in the first place. No amount of "support systems" would have made the factors causing my situation suddenly disappear. Saying lonely men need support systems just sounds like … | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/02/25 11:10 AM |
| 2 | This Is Way Too FarTranslation: "women should not be held accountable for their choices". As if they think women are mental children who need to be coddled or something. Disgusting. I think we're only a few steps away from people saying that all sex is rape and no woman can consent to it, period. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/02/25 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Traditional masculinity shouldn’t be something men strive forAlthough people associate masculinity with dominance, I feel as though it’s actually quite submissive. For example, the idea of men being perfect soldier who follow commands for their country and die for others is very subservient. Also the whole idea of men having to be providers (not just financially) and protectors. Men are expected to serve and set their lives aside for women. Men are expected to act like guard dogs for women. Also the process of “courting” a partner is submissive and also q… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/25 10:55 AM |
| 2 | There is a narrative to paint all men who are cautious around women, as paranoid Incels with victim complexes.There were many times in my life I desperately wished I was gay because I felt like it was the only way I'd ever get to experience any kind of love and sex. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/25 10:34 AM |
| 5 | There is a narrative to paint all men who are cautious around women, as paranoid Incels with victim complexes.You can boil the three answers from the short section down to one thing basically. Which is that the predominant dating culture is "women get all the advantages, men get all the disadvantages". For example, women can have as much sex as they want without getting called a slut (which is good) but they also don't have to do any approach or handle men's feelings with any degree of sensitivity (which is bad). Men? Complete opposite. We're fuckboys if we have too much sex or incels if we don't, our s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/25 10:29 AM |
| 4 | Violent & Disgusting Display of “Female Rage”.I try not to let myself get too bothered about this. Most of the people raging about how all men should die would flinch if a 5'4 120 femboy with asthma wheezed in their direction. Its just impotent rage lashing out and hoping you get offended over it. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/02/25 10:06 AM |
| 1 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?And that's NOT a harmless man. The point I was making isn't that most women do want an unthreatening man, its how diametrically opposed the desire for a threatening man truly is with the core concept of women's liberation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/25 09:59 AM |
| – | Tried of dating cultureCorrect. I of course sadly didn't realize this at first, so it messed me up for a while. And I still think it is a little of column and A little of column B. | /r/MenSupportMen | 20/12/24 07:44 AM |
| 5 | Because the men deserve to be killed you know!Exploiting the tragedy of genocide and the suffering of actual political refugees is a low blow. Seriously, it makes me sick. I hate misandrists but I didn't think even they would be this depraved. That's enough internet for today. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/12/24 07:21 AM |
| 14 | Bro cis men do not act like thisThis is Fox News level of straw manning. Radfems, I hope you understand one day that you're just female Tucker Carlsons. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/12/24 07:18 AM |
| 2 | So are generalizations bad or not?No, you ran straight into the point and kept on running. Both sides here are idiots. The takeaway here should be that its wrong to profile any group based on one bad experience. I hate to sound like a broken record, but if this was about black people, I bet both of these guys would suddenly start agreeing that profiling is wrong. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/12/24 07:16 AM |
| 3 | Tried of dating cultureThat's some psychotic behavior right there. I know its an old cliche man but just be grateful because you seriously dodged a bullet. If she was really interested in you, she wouldn't have ghosted. And if she wasn't interested, she wouldn't have sent all those flirty texts and whatnot. So that leaves only a few possibilities. Only someone with mental issues could suddenly invert their behavior 180 degrees like that. Or she was just treating it as a game all along, possibly trying to keep you on r… | /r/MenSupportMen | 18/12/24 07:13 AM |
| 1 | "If my boyfriend doesn't risk his life for me and other women, he's not a real man."The guy should have done something and helped out but not because that's "what a real man does" or anything like that. Its just the decent thing to do, whether man or woman. If the genders were reversed I'd say the same thing. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/12/24 07:02 AM |
| 3 | Lily Phillips situation/reaction is gross100% agree with everything you said and have noticed it too. Every art is vulnerable to the depravations of capitalism. Porn is no exception. It makes sense that a lot of these newer OF models are more jaded and cynical about it. We live in an era of corporate culture where everyone is trying to put their bootheels on everyone else's neck. Just look at what is going on in the video game industry right now. This mentality has infiltrated EVERYTHING. In addition, I think a lot of contemporary sex … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/12/24 06:57 AM |
| 5 | Lily Phillips situation/reaction is grossI'm not surprised. Feminists have always been no better than puritans rallying against sexually liberated women. Example: attacking pornstars/strippers when in reality those women chose that profession of their own free will. And a lot those women revel in their sexuality, and the power that comes from being desired. They're just either repressed about their own sexuality and view it as dirty, that it taints them (and them men who desire them, I guess). And I hate to play this card but most of t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/24 09:19 AM |
| 7 | Being a victim does not enable you to be a sexistThis the same logic as "If a white person is traumatized by a black person, don't expect them to not be scared/hate them." These people would literally be aligned against the civil rights movement if they were born in another time. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 15/12/24 09:13 AM |
| 8 | Imagine seeing information about men being raped and having to chime in just to blame them.This is literally the same exact thing feminists often complain about men supposedly doing (interrupting conversations on rape of the opposite sex to chime in about rape of their sex). Only their side doesn't have the disadvantage of rape against them being ignored and excused, so the two aren't the same. Its perfectly valid for men to being up that "men get raped too". Pointing out women get raped too, on the other hand, is like saying" but white people get beaten by police too" when mentioning… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 15/12/24 09:10 AM |
| 2 | Reddit's mod support says misandry will be allowed on Reddit because men as a group is not vulnerable (as if misandry did not negatively impact young boys at all)The problem is that women spend the majority of the money, to the point of more than they make (on average). Therefore, capitalism will always insure that corporations stand the most to gain by appealing to women and ignoring men. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 11/12/24 06:30 AM |
| 3 | Reddit's mod support says misandry will be allowed on Reddit because men as a group is not vulnerable (as if misandry did not negatively impact young boys at all)By that logic we shouldn't focus on any women's rights issues in the west as long as women in the middle east are being oppressed worse. Noted, mods. I'll remember that next time someone mentions Roe vs. Wade. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 11/12/24 06:26 AM |
| 1 | “No, ALL lives matter!”Thanks, fixed. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 11/12/24 06:17 AM |
| 3 | "Because gender roles are becoming obsolete, men feel like they don't have a purpose" How true is this statement really?Gender roles are far from obsolete. They are very much still popular. "Strong independent women?" Most women still seek to marry up the social ladder. They want to be protected and provided for but they ALSO want to be seen as strong and independent. They want to pretend they want a "soft" guy but they really want to date the quarterback of the football team. I'll start believing that gender roles are obsolete when the majority of women are wealthy lawyers that date shy nerds. As a nontraditiona… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/24 06:13 AM |
| 6 | “No, ALL lives matter!”Something tells me that if you said "Don't like women being raped, then just protest rape as a whole instead of talking about women getting raped specifically" he would call you sexist. Funny how when its women suffering, its a women's issue. But when its men suffering, its a human issue. Also, the entire problem in the first place is that these left wing policies that would help everyone are often held back by alienating men, therefore causing them to not vote for the party that could effect th… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 11/12/24 06:02 AM |
| 3 | National Review: The Democrats Have a Woman ProblemI was more talking about people who no-voted or voted third party. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/12/24 07:41 PM |
| 15 | National Review: The Democrats Have a Woman ProblemThe gender war waged against men is literally the reason Trump keeps getting elected. At this point I almost have to wonder if the dems secretly want this. And the worst thing about it is that if you as a man fight back you are told you're the problem for not sucking it up and voting for people who hate you anyway. I personally voted for Kamala to keep Trump out of office but I don't begrudge anyone who didn't. Its not an easy thing to simply decide between two different deeply help principles t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/12/24 06:27 AM |
| 24 | Men are so sensitiveIt's more like this. Men: Calmly making well-reasoned, strong moral and philosophical arguments based on evidence and logic which allow us to feel proud of ourselves instead of spreading mindless hate Feminist: lol you're a rapist These people calling men sensitive is like 4 chan trolls calling jews sensitive after posting nazi memes. Unreal how detached these people are from reality. Good on you OP for standing up to them but after a certain point it becomes pointless. You're not going to re-ed… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/12/24 06:23 AM |
| 2 | Systematic tackling of the male loneliness epidemic?True, this kind of thing will absolutely be met with hostility no matter how logical and well-presented the reasoning is. But just because people don't want to listen doesn't make it untrue or not worth trying. But what is the alternative? Give up? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/11/24 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Is The Left Dangerously Out Of Touch?In other news, water is wet. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/11/24 06:07 AM |
| 7 | Systematic tackling of the male loneliness epidemic?Firstly, its obviously coming from social messaging. Just look at what feminism is saying right now. Its the exact opposite of all the things I said. Secondly, if it was biological, that would lead to some pretty hideous and misogynistic beliefs about women. That they must be stupid and incapable of making mature decisions, and/or they want to be treated like shit. I don't believe that though. No honest liberal can. Thirdly, even if it was biological, not everything that is natural is good and n… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/11/24 06:06 AM |
| 5 | “Your body my choice”One of the radfem tropes is "have you even met any women IRL, incel" whenever we say anything they disagree with. I say reverse it on them. "Have you even met any men IRL or are you just an incel?" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/24 06:55 AM |
| 3 | The Phenomenon of “Female Chauvinism”And the irony of it is that despite all the endless prattling about how femininity is so superior, any man that shows a shred of femininity usually gets rejected by women. Meanwhile most women will in turn fall for the same kind of guy that shows the toxic masculinity they talk so much about. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/24 06:52 AM |
| 6 | Systematic tackling of the male loneliness epidemic?I think the main thing that would make a difference is the kind of messaging young women receive. Especially in college/dating. We should be teaching them things like: There are other standards you can judge male attractiveness by than what is conventional. The shy, nerdy guy might have something to contribute, too. Shy, nerdy guys are not automatically a threat to you, or even more likely to be. Conventionally attractive men are much more likely to hurt you. You're not sexually liberating yours… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/24 06:34 AM |
| 3 | the abolishment of men's gender roles.The problem is that male gender roles are actually mainly enforced by women. Women are the gateways to sex and reproduction of our species because of men being expected to act as the pursuers. That means each man they have sex with is like a "vote" for what kind of men they want to exist in the future. Expectations of what is a man is and male gender roles won't change until more women decide that they find men who break those conventions attractive. Which they largely (on average) don't. Additi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/24 08:58 PM |
| 7 | Feminists contempt for men trying to improve dating skills: an anecdote.I'm always extremely skeptical of anything that tells you to touch women without their consent. I've been inappropriately treated like a creep enough times without ever doing that, so I can only imagine how much hate I would have gotten if I had. I don't know about you OP but I can really sympathize with women there because the thought of it happening to me is just gross. Also, I don't think this lady actually understands what dating is like for young people nowadays. Maybe in her day you could … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/24 05:55 AM |
| 1 | South Korean woman submits AI-manipulated voice as evidence of sexual harassment to kill a man socially and to get the money.In a few years AI content will become so common that it will probably have the opposite effect. It will be so ubiquitous that no one will ever believe anything is real. Which is damaging in a whole other way, of course. But we're in a weird twilight zone right now where the technology exists, but its not literally smacking idiots in the face yet so they still believe any random thing they see. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 05/11/24 05:22 AM |
| 27 | Treating Men the Way Women Expect to Be Treated Is a JokeThe ironic thing is that this reveals just how non-progressive so-called feminists are. If they expect to be treated this way but treating men this way is a joke, then guess what, they're a joke too. The only way to sidestep this of course is to throw away all pretense of equal rights. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/11/24 10:56 PM |
| 14 | What was a time that you, as a man, experienced sexism or misandry?Almost every single time I ever told a girl that I liked her, asked her out on a date, or even just tried to strike up a friendly conversation with her in public, I got treated like I was violating some kind of sacred taboo. Sometimes it was just the cold shoulder, other times it was evasive tactics like "give me your number and I'll call you back later" which is basically like saying "I'm scared you might rape/kill me if I say no, so I'm going to do it indirectly instead". This all probably see… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/24 02:23 AM |
| 1 | Anyone else feel conflicted about voting left due to how dismissive and condescending the discourse on men has become? Men are unfairly reduced to violent, unemotional providers, with no space to address their issues. While I oppose conservative policies, this still frustrates me.The left as a political concept? No. The American Democrat party? Yes. Voting blue is just voting for corporate crony capitalism with a nicer coat of paint over it. Their adoption of radical gender politics is just a smokescreen for the fact that they want to put their bootheels on our necks just like Republicans do. The American left is no longer liberal. Biden was the perfect example: he was in office for 4 years and the housing crisis has only gotten worse since then. Or look at the 2016 elec… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/24 08:19 PM |
| 2 | Are Men to Blame for the Restrictions Against Afghan Women?Of course men would oppose the Taliban. Even the most hateful, misogynistic feminist caricature of a man would oppose a religious tradcon ideology out of self-interest, if nothing else. That's because groups like the Taliban just use men as disposable protector/provider utilities, dying in wars, etc. In other words, serving the elite just like women, albeit in a slightly different role. Feminists in reading: believe me when I say we don't want this any more than you do. I think this idea that th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/24 08:01 PM |
| 2 | What are some ways that women suffer that you can acknowledge or understand?It genuinely makes me upset and depressed to hear some of the horrific stories that happen to women in the dating world. The creepy messages/IRL comments, harassment, rape, etc. All of these are very real problems. The fact that radical modern feminists exaggerate these doesn't make the minority cases that do occur any less real. What I can't understand is the way society responds to this, pointing the blame at men that had absolutely nothing to do with this unacceptable behavior. People love to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/24 07:47 PM |
| 4 | The answer is no. There's literally a century of sentencing data to show this.This is equally as tone deaf as asking "Are white people who commit violence judged more harshly?" Yet somehow, many supposed "progressives" would recognize the racism in the above, but not the sexism in the screenshot from the OP. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/24 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Straight men face stigma for being feminine. But feminine straight men are still mocked in progressive places though.You're welcome and thank you for taking the time to say so. It feels really nice to be able to get this kind of stuff off my chest and not get yelled at for it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/09/24 07:32 AM |
| 2 | Straight men face stigma for being feminine. But feminine straight men are still mocked in progressive places though.The crazy thing is there are plenty of guys who can pull off a dress and look gorgeous doing it that they could praise and use as positive examples instead, like Jorge Chacón or Finster. And sure, they may have their own niche followings, but still not that much in the grand scheme of things. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/09/24 07:30 AM |
| 11 | Straight men face stigma for being feminine. But feminine straight men are still mocked in progressive places though.Yeah it actually bothers me, as a femboy/male GNC/crossdresser or whatever you want to call me, every time I see some big male celebrity pull some kind of stunt like wearing a dress. Everyone praises it like you mentioned, but would most women date a guy who did that seriously? I can tell you from personal experience the answer is not only "no" but most of them wouldn't even date a feminine-looking guy regardless of whether he wears a dress or not. The reason people - especially young, female fa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/24 09:50 PM |
| 3 | The phase "feminism is for men too" can't coexist with the oppressed vs oppressor dichotomy. Because it's a major contradiction."You're evil sadistic overlords that are oppressing us, but also we're trying to help you because we're just that nice" said no one who was actually oppressed, ever. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/09/24 06:13 AM |
| 6 | I hate the narrative that only sexist men care about men issues, because they are afraid of feminism, and losing male privilege and power.Weren't female activists originally accused of the same thing? Just wanting to take down men and assert female power? The response was (and still is) stuff like "I'm not trying to take down anyone I just want reproductive rights". Yet we do the same, and its crickets. What a joke. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/24 06:49 AM |
| 2 | I hate the pressure society puts on men to have "game".I think this is a perfect illustration on why people say that liberals usually become conservative later in life. They're right, but only insofar as we understand "liberals" to mean "fake liberals" in that statement. The people saying "rizz" now are basically the same in their core set of beliefs (fake liberals) as sexist PUA red pillers (conservatives). They just present their beliefs in a different, seemingly-more-wholesome-on-the-surface package. Different terms for the same thing. The only r… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/24 06:34 AM |
| 2 | In the 2024 Democratic Party Platform, the word Women appears 82 times, the word Men, 4 times. In the US, how can we encourage Democrats to focus more and boys and men? https://menandthe2024election.substack.com/p/the-dnc-story-no-ones-talking-aboutThe fucked up part is, we can't do it with our vote. Either we vote red or we don't vote at all. The former is unthinkable and the latter basically guarantees whatever color your state is normally. There are only a few battleground states to begin with. They know we're stuck voting blue out of obligation. That's why they don't bother to appeal to men. They know we wouldn't vote for Trump regardless and I hate to admit it but they're correct (I hope). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/24 06:17 AM |
| 1 | There was controversy when the largest women's online community in South Korea, 'Women's Generation', mocked a soldier who had suffered severe burns (여성시대, 군인 비하)Is that true? I'm not certain things are the same in Korea as they are in the US. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 23/08/24 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Conservatism is deeply misandristMy ultra conservative grandfather has ranted about how all men are beasts and have the potential to become pedophile rapists. I had to do a spit take when I heard that because I normally expect that kind of crap to come from a woke kid with purple hair. Radical ideologies really do become so radical they eventually horseshoe and meet up with each other at some point, able to argue for the same thing from different angles. For instance, from a radical feminist perspective, you could make a case t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/24 07:26 PM |
| 1 | So apparently everyone is the product of rape by men, WHAT THE FU**.I don't think she knows what intergenerational rape means. Also, its really distressing me as a white person to see someone comparing misogyny to slavery, so I can only imagine how enraging it would be if I was black, and my ancestors were actually owned. Disgusting. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/08/24 07:02 PM |
| 8 | There was controversy when the largest women's online community in South Korea, 'Women's Generation', mocked a soldier who had suffered severe burns (여성시대, 군인 비하)I hope a Korean official says "women can all have equal rights now, except these people". | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/08/24 06:59 PM |
| 2 | The duality of man. A paradox that put a lot of men into double bind situations.Its like they're trying to bait us into being creepy just so they can complain about it. The fact they have to try to incite men into being creepy to validate their worldview instead of just relying on our supposed "natural creepiness" speaks volumes. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/08/24 06:56 PM |
| 6 | InhumaneThis reminds me of TJ Kirk's "its only sexist when men do it" video. Similar story of a woman cutting off a guy's dick and those hags on the view laughing about it. That was 13 years ago. Nothing has changed. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/08/24 06:53 PM |
| 7 | “Men are creepy”This is recurring theme I notice. They take one thing that is definitely an indisputable issue (comments/touches) and then conflate that with something vague like "bad vibes" from men as a whole. Notice she doesn't actually explain what "bad vibes" even means. If people said they got "bad vibes" around black people or muslims, everyone would point out how racist that is. Its just a way of attacking a whole group without having to be scrutinized because they'll just say you're gaslighting women o… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 12/08/24 09:29 PM |
| 1 | "Your grandad was probably awful and deserved to be left"So the argument seems to be that because sexism existed, there definitely weren't any good men that treated women properly. Except I don't see the part where she actually shows the connection between those two things. Just because women were mistreated, doesn't mean its impossible there were some who wanted to stay with their partners out of both survival AND love at the same time. Its a non-sequitur. But what the fuck does it matter anyway? Even if she was right, so what? That was then, this is… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 09/08/24 02:46 AM |
| 4 | How in the world am I the one spreading propogandaI don't know what the first post has to do with it but that's crazy, you literally posted the evidence so its not propaganda by definition. This is why I laugh when the radical left calls itself "the party of science" or I heard feminists say "follow the science" during covid. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 09/08/24 02:41 AM |
| 3 | Anyone else overwhelmed by the dating advice?Most of the dating advice you see (especially online) is total crap. Either its really obvious straw man stuff that you're probably already doing like "be nice" or "take showers", or its deranged red pill crap. Case and point: I got my girlfriend by doing literally everything the opposite of doing what all the dating coaches say. That's because they're basically saying: be this one particular kind of man which just so happens to be a buff, rich, extroverted uber chad. The problem is, not everyon… | /r/MenSupportMen | 09/08/24 02:38 AM |
| 6 | I guess I’m a criminal.Guilty until proven innocent is terrifying enough in and of itself. That's how a lot of historical atrocities started. The fact that she's able to say it out loud without being downvoted and mocked into oblivion makes it so much worse, because it shows we're getting that much closer to the next atrocity. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 09/08/24 02:33 AM |
| 4 | I guess I’m a criminal.Ok_Remote_4844: Male children don't obey their parents but girls do, and somehow that's evidence of misogyny Also Ok_Remote_4844: When people I don't like say the same thing, that's also misogyny Like what point was she trying to make if she wasn't saying girls are more obedient? First of all this dichotomy is bullshit, plenty of female children ignore their parents too. Its called being a child. But even if we assume that's true, she literally just said female children are more obedient but fre… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 09/08/24 02:30 AM |
| 1 | Another case of “feminists” having complete double standards. Polyamory in women is good, polyamory in men is bad. (This comes from the now-closed FDS sub and their website/forum)Its basically red pill but for women. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 07/08/24 03:12 PM |
| 2 | Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.Men are murdered every day, and at much higher rates than women actually. What's your point? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/08/24 03:07 PM |
| 38 | The way feminism wants men to act/feel about gender issues feels very religious/catholic to meNote that this is the exact inverse of the narrative from medieval times. Women were seen as sinful temptresses who lure men from the righteous path with their dangerous sexuality. Just like now, the dogma was twisted to suit the purposes of one side. All humans are inherently sinful but women are more sinful than men. And that is of course misogynistic. Well now it's the opposite and no one is saying it's misandrist. Moral of the story: whichever sex is in power at the time will always make it … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/24 09:55 PM |
| 12 | We are seeing damned if you do, and damned if you don't type of situations playing out in real time.In my opinion the problem stems from the fact that many women (not all but many) are not actually liberal deep down. They don't really believe in equality. They actually like a lot of toxic male behaviors. They like traditional gender roles and being objectified, such as catcalling, and feel ashamed for it. They don't want a nice, sweet, caring man. They're told their sexuality is being oppressed by the patriarchy but they redirect that blame onto the nice men because we're the ones who "oppress… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/24 04:44 PM |
| 2 | Is there actually a manosphere?Its just a buzzword. Imagine grouping christianity and islam into one pool just because they're both abrahamic religions. In reality they're totally different and the different elements of the manosphere are the same. For instance, every element of the manosphere acknowledges the unique challenges and biases against men in the dating sphere, but they all have different answers to how you should feel about that. Red Pill: You should hate women and want to get revenge on them by exploiting the rul… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/24 06:31 AM |
| 6 | Feminist here. I was wondering this: why is it ok to speak out against white racism, and heterophobia, but speaking out against misandry, you’re considered an anti-feminist/misogynist.I don't agree that speaking out against white racism and heterophobia is seen as okay either, at least not by far left radical sjw types. But that is really who we're talking about to begin with when we complain about people on the internet because most people IRL are more reasonable. But to answer your actual question, its because they're just genuinely ignorant and brainwashed, or they're the people doing the brainwashing and they know this is an effective tactic. I also think there are people… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/24 06:18 AM |
| 1 | Looking back at a case of an autistic man being viewed as a threat to children, and how to push back against talking points suggesting that the safety of children trumps men being treated fairlyAsk if its the autism causing the danger to kids. If yes, why are only autistic men suspect, and not autistic women? If no, you can point out that women actually abuse children more than men, so by their own logic we should view all women as inherently suspect and prevent them from interacting with kids. But that would be wrong, so why do the same with men? This dialog is also applicable to dating, due to the connection that has with neurodiverse men as well. Actually, looking at these two issue… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/24 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on how I could rebut this “gender conscious lens” argument?Replace some of the language and see if it passes the racism test. For example... "the race-conscious lens means we understand the reasons why black people are more likely to violent than white people" ...reads like a KK pamphlet. Yup, racist as fuck! Reminds me of that scene in Django where the DiCaprio's character is talking about "indentations on the negro skull" or whatever. Nothing should ever be viewed through a "lens" of any kind except the lens of truth. All bigoted ideologies throughout… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/24 10:50 PM |
| 57 | The male gender role of being the stoic rock in a romantic relationship is the most pronounced example of emotional labour that exists in life, and those who believe women do more emotional labour on average are either lying or ignorant.Not only taking the active role in courtship but also being judged based on your success/lack thereof, constantly scrutinized under suspicion of being a "nice guy TM", etc. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/24 10:43 PM |
| 5 | “Not all men but it’s always a man.”Even if it was always a man, that wouldn't justify hurting innocent people. It could be all men committing every crime ever, but that would still mean an extreme minority of men commit crimes. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 19/07/24 09:06 PM |
| 3 | Reddit doesn’t care about you.What terrifies me about this is that if they reacted this negatively towards a man who simply talked about being raped by a woman because that "detracts from female victims" or whatever, then how would they react to a man who they perceive as doing something actually directly harmful to a woman? For example how men who approach women in public to say hi are called creeps now? Its honestly chilling and affects all of us. Pretty soon we could see men preemptively being treated the same way just fo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/24 05:59 AM |
| 11 | As much as society complain about boys always being rambunctious, society still hates quiet/reserved boys. Or at least find these boys odd at best.If women as a whole were really upset about toxic masculinity, they could solve it easily with sexual selection. They could just date the kinds of guys you're talking about. That way they would be able to insulate themselves from the problematic behaviors and get to spend all their time with the softer men they claim to want. There are literally hordes of us that are dying for female attention so they'd have their pick and it would be even easier than female dating already is. But at least in th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/24 05:51 AM |
| 3 | There are men murdered too…And not only that, but at dramatically higher rates too. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/07/24 05:21 AM |
| 3 | All over redditI like how 90% of the things she describes are normal and non-problematic, like wanting to have a beer or talking about doing flips. Then when one problematic behavior actually happed, a guy came to her aid...proving why she should trust men. Not trusting men will isolate her from good men but do nothing to stop bad men because guess what, bad men don't care about your boundaries. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/07/24 05:20 AM |
| 5 | What are people's opinions on TERFs and trans rights in general?TERFS are also the same people who literally believe all males are inherently rapists without exception, including babies. Even if I were a massive transphobe, which I'm not, then I would still be against them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/24 05:13 AM |
| 4 | Found this gem on r/Feminism, this just shows how all their statements are just pulled from thin airIf men suffer from war less than women, wouldn't she want to be drafted, since in her mind men fighting in war is better than women staying at home not fighting war? | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/07/24 05:08 AM |
| 6 | This was depressing to read through.I like how she says "men don't see women as human because they only care about looks" but also "only attractive women get treated like humans". Which is it? Make up your damn mind. Also, I want to know what kind people she dates. Does she only date the ugliest men/women? If not then she's a hypocrite guilty of the same crimes she accuses men of. She talks about vile things but doesn't give any examples. I'm willing to bet these guys just said something like "so and so has a nice rack". Guess wha… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/07/24 05:03 AM |
| 2 | Do any other “non-masculine” men also struggle with a lack of acceptance?The man is free to be "soft", express his emotions, and do other things seen as traditionally feminine without being mocked. Both members share household responsibilities as equally as possible (cleaning, cooking, etc). Maybe even making money, though a dual income household is basically more of a requirement these days just to barely scrape by. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/07/24 10:00 PM |
| 2 | What do you think of male misandrists?They're conservatives in disguise, f-bois desperate to get laid, victims of brainwashing/abuse to the point of internalizing it, or (on the internet) fake accounts used by feminists. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/05/24 06:57 AM |
| 3 | Niche question: Any other men here that previously identified as nonbinary? How has navigating identity worked out for you?Not nonbinary but have been known to identify myself as a femboy or similar terms. People all the time try to convince me I'm trans. "Are you sure you're not trans, why else would you want to look and dress like a girl". Why is no one saying the same thing to butch women? I get the sense that they're basically saying "You have an easy excuse not to identify as one of those nasty men so why the hell would you not take it." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/24 06:56 AM |
| 1 | Wow… “I don’t understand why women want to birth their own oppressors”If she feels oppressed by babies she is mentally unfit for society and needs to see a psychologist immediately. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/05/24 06:50 AM |
| 5 | Yikes- a horrific take hereI like how they demonstrate a lack of basic understanding of how time works. Man in the future says something they deem as misogynistic > women in the past would know that and not date him. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/05/24 06:47 AM |
| 7 | How dare you explain the trauma of a false accusation? I'm gonna falsely accuse you now!Its frightening how easily you can compare this denial/victim blaming to rape denial/victim blaming. Historically, the impact of rape against women was often dismissed. Yet the same type of social justice feminist warriors that would (rightly) attack the misogyny of that refuse to recognize the misandry in doing the same thing to men. This denial of human trauma and "only my problems matter" will surely come to bite them in the ass one day if this continues, because it affects us all. How easily… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/05/24 06:43 AM |
| 5 | At least this one is getting downvotedLol what? It would not be over quickly with a bear. Bears have been known to eat people's entrails while they are still alive. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 09/05/24 08:10 PM |
| 2 | Men, what do you think about the poisoned Skittles/M&Ms/candy/muffin analogy?That's the thing about fascists. They advocate for their own group at the exclusion of everything else, which means their greatest enemy are often other fascists who just so happen to belong to a different group. Not sure why radfems like islam so much though, considering its a religion that would literally have them as subservient second class citizens. Then again, technically Christianity would be the same. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 09/05/24 06:06 AM |
| 7 | Men, what do you think about the poisoned Skittles/M&Ms/candy/muffin analogy?I love it, because it exposes how radfems are basically alike in thinking to Trump supporters, considering he used the same argument against muslims. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 08/05/24 06:45 AM |
| 4 | Do any other “non-masculine” men also struggle with a lack of acceptance?I'm not sure. I think it originated sometime around 2017-2020? A quick google search shows lots of articles from that time period warning women about the "danger of softboys" and whatnot. I do know that the word himbo still gets thrown around much too often for my liking. For example in r/rolereversal. A lot of female users there seem to want a dumb, subservient, but conventionally attractive man. When you ask how that makes them any better than male chauvanists that want bang maids, or why a ge… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/05/24 06:05 AM |
| 3 | Apparently 1 in 3 women are attacked by men according to this.The same thing happened to me. They said I was being racist for comparing misandry to racism. That it showed my own biases by equating bears to black people. When my exact point was exactly that its racist in the first place because black people aren't bears and neither are men. So in accusing others of showing their racism they are actually showing their racism. They are the ones who see bears as black people and that gives them existential dread about their own cognitive dissonance so they pro… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 11:57 PM |
| 4 | Do any other “non-masculine” men also struggle with a lack of acceptance?I definitely used to. The only reason I don't now basically comes down to having a girlfriend, so I just don't care anymore. I get all the validation I need from her and don't need to care what anyone else thinks until/if I need to start dating again. But before that, I got rejected over and over, was a virgin at 28, got told I'm as bad as Elliot Roger because I assumed it was my fault for being too intrusive and asked innocent questions like how to treat women more respectfully. Etc. It was so … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/24 11:01 PM |
| 8 | A woman was almost killed by a bear, but men are still terribleFeminism victimizes women as much as men! | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/05/24 10:23 PM |
| 12 | A woman was almost killed by a bear, but men are still terrible"Its not enough when women are victims, they also have to be pawns in our sick games" - pop feminism. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/05/24 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.I think its incredibly degrading to women to treat them as if their brains are so infantile that they're actually scared of being killed by most men they see. Certainly, women like that exist. But it isn't some genetic flaw that plagues women as a whole. Plenty of them are sane. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/05/24 12:04 AM |
| 6 | Man v bear episode 592Men: Some female indifference to men's desire not to be labelled as inherent threat is bad so we think you'd be safer around us than a bear. Healthy Female Response: Wow, it its really troubling that you feel this way, what can I do? Instead: Men are dumb and I hope they feel bad women are choosing bears instead. The projection is real. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 03/05/24 11:41 PM |
| 24 | Man Bear MegathreadAsk them "would you rather be in the woods with a bear or a black man?" If they still choose bear, ask them if they really don't think that sounds racist. If they choose black man, ask them why. If they say its racist to assume black people as threats, ask them why choosing bear over black man is racist but choosing bear over white man isn't misandrist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/24 05:31 AM |
| 2 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.Well, the bear is not a guaranteed death either. And also, I think you're generalizing women too much. If you said "feminists" I would agree more. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 07:48 PM |
| 2 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.They have to go out of their way to invent misogyny, while women in less other countries are literally being treated like cattle. If that doesn't summarize the absolute state of modern western feminism, I don't know what does. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 05:14 PM |
| 2 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.Yeah I'm honestly not too surprised by this man vs bear thing to be honest. Its a natural evolution of what the Chadfishing experiments revealed. Which is that a shocking amount of women are apparently ok with being treated like absolute shit despite outward protests against "misogyny". I will say one thing though. Based on some of the disgusting personas the Chadfishers portrayed, there are apparently some guys out there who are worse than the bears. I'm talking about the guys who pretended to … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 05:11 PM |
| 1 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.They're not going to see it as misandry, though. They see it as women fighting back against rape culture. So you can point to the example all you want, but people won't see it as an example of misandry. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 05:06 PM |
| 2 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.You're correct, the race of the man shouldn't matter at all. My point is that using statistics to make arguments like "men commit more violence, so they're dangerous predators and should be avoided" was the same logic used by white racists in the past to vilify black people. We all recognize that as racist, so why is doing the same to men instead of black people ok? So if you chose bear over a white man, why not chose a white man over black man? I'm exposing the bigotry of people who chose bear,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 05:02 PM |
| 1 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.I mean that's great, I'm glad bears in your area aren't dangerous but thats not the case for all bears everywhere. The scenario is very generalized. Most bears aren't that used to humans. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 04:58 PM |
| 2 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.You could grab a rooster by the neck and toss it out of the car in three seconds. The lion would maul you to death no matter how much training you have, unless you have a gun and are allowed to kill it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 04:53 PM |
| 2 | The wonderful people on blatantmisogyny are calling one of your threads "misogyny"As the OP of the post they are talking about, I find that that thread hilarious. Most of people there don't make any actual argument, just childish remarks. I'm surprised I didn't get call a boogerface or something. But then there is the fact that the post itself violates on of their rules (rule 6) which I reported it for. I also reported almost every single comment in it for violating rule 6 and 14, because justifying choosing bear over men is hate. Sadly, most of those comments were not remove… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 04:45 PM |
| 1 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.Couldn't you just say this about any example of bigotry, then? Like surely police killings of black men will stop now, because after George Floyd no one can deny the problem exists anymore, right? There have been thousands of examples of widespread misandry. This is just the latest one in a long list. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 07:31 AM |
| 2 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.I'd take the rooster, no contest. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 07:29 AM |
| 1 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.Oh hell yes, that sounds like something a pampered medieval princess would say. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 07:28 AM |
| 3 | The issue misogynists and TERFs share in common is the idea that men are utterly controlled by their sexual attitude.This is how most people are with politics, sadly. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 07:27 AM |
| 5 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.That's actually a good one because part of the problem with saying bears attack women less...its only because bears are around women a lot less. If bears were around them a lot more, that statistic would change. Drastically. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/24 07:26 AM |
| 3 | Why do lefists treat dating market so differently from other markets?There is no amount of policy that could fix this problem-nor should there be. I don't want the government getting involved in our dating lives. The solution would have to be a radically different way of socializing young girls. Socializing them to actually be strong and independent so they won't chose hypergamy. Teaching them not to hate men. Teaching them when they put up a hyper defensive barrier of ice, it will only filter out the men who don't care about boundaries, leaving them exclusively … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/24 08:35 PM |
| 3 | My experiences with misandry being a Trans male victim of a woman.This is pretty much the ultimate proof that trans people have a legitimate desire to transition and is not something they chose, is it? Why would he go through all this if he didn't have to? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/24 08:14 PM |
| 7 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.This is a brilliant comment, I'm adding this to my repertoire. Thanks! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/24 08:01 PM |
| 5 | I think it’s hypocritical for someone to be misandrist and Pro- Palestine/ anti- racistIt is hypocritical. Misandrists aren't liberal, they just pretend to be. They have more in common with Trump voters than us, considering Trump used the same logic to try to ban people like you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/24 07:59 PM |
| 57 | The issue misogynists and TERFs share in common is the idea that men are utterly controlled by their sexual attitude.Feminists have much more in common with conservatives than they realize. I had this epiphany one day listening to my grandpa rant about how girls/women are defenseless and men are beasts who will rape them and even commit pedophilia at the first opportunity so they need good men to protect them, and how even good men have a beast inside them and all that crap. How is that any different than the rape paranoia spread by modern feminists? Both see men the same way. And once you realize that, you st… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/24 07:50 PM |
| 6 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.Well at least that view is egalitarian and internally consistent, but still man. A wild animal is way more dangerous than a human. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/24 07:33 PM |
| 1 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.What's your vision of "listen compassionately"? In terms of actual arguments. Try asking them "who would you rather be in the woods with a bear or a black man" Isn't that exactly what I said? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/24 07:32 PM |
| 3 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.Five seconds is awfully generous lmao | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/24 07:27 PM |
| 7 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.If we don't counter the narrative, that's how we'd be letting them win. Sure, you won't convince the actual people you're arguing with, but maybe you'll convince some bystanders. Letting them bully us out of the conversation is exactly what they want us to do with these kinds of hyperbolic statements like "I would prefer a bear over a man" or "yes all men". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/24 07:26 PM |
| 10 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.The point is to show the hypocrisy of people who are easily able to understand the racism of judging one group of people based on superficial characteristics they can't control, but not the misandry of doing it with another group. Whether you like it or not, unfortunately the gender wars are about race. And I didn't make it that way, feminists did. All this fear of men goes double for men of color, especially black, who have been traditionally and still are treated even worse/mistrusted than whi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/24 07:23 PM |
| 9 | How to respond to people who choose bear over man.If we're arguing that its misandry to choose bear, then its also misogynist for us to choose bear. However, jokingly saying that as a way to expose how horrid the other side sounds could be a reflective tactic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/24 04:01 PM |
| 3 | The amount of misandry I hear at collegeSome of these are real misandry but a lot of them are insane to be upset about, completely benign, or outright untrue (most women being predators). | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/05/24 07:11 AM |
| 4 | WowImagine saying that Jews should be able to abuse random German people | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/05/24 07:09 AM |
| 1 | Men are "sick f*cks who view the other sex as subhuman", apparently...Did they miss the fact that its a HORROR movie? The point of horror is to take oneself outside their comfort zone. I don't necessarily want to see a girl violate herself with a crucifix in isolation, but it can be compelling horror precisely because we DON'T like that. If men liked seeing that, The Exorcist wouldn't be a horror film, it'd just be a porno. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 30/04/24 07:59 AM |
| 1 | The absolute state that is r/menslibbGuess those comments accidentally fell down a memory hole. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/04/24 07:55 AM |
| 2 | The type of men who feminists generalize men off of (the only kind of men who are misogynistic). Here's some info about them:And they are dating the ones who do, while portraying the ones they're not as being like that. Its a very fascinating psychology, isn't it? Even having elements of projection and gaslighting in it too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/04/24 07:40 AM |
| 11 | So why do feminists say that when men have problems, they should create their own movement, but then actually hate when we make our own movement?That's how fascism works. The statement just changes based on the situation. The truth is malleable in service to the ideology. I.E. they don't want us to do either, but they know it would sound shitty to say that out loud, so they switch it based on the situation to disguise their apathy. Its nothing new, along the lines of "my enemy is simultaneously very powerful but also very weak" sort of doublethink. Like conservatives saying "minorities need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps" but … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/04/24 07:31 AM |
| 1 | Why doesn't intersectionality theory able to explain the disadvantage of men?Intersectionality is one among many social justice concepts modern feminists selectively employ only when it suits them, and ignore when it favors men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/04/24 07:26 AM |
| 8 | Men are hated for having certain traits deem as toxic masculinity. But men will always be judge way worse for the alternatives to those traits when it comes to everyday interactions with women.You might want to look into the "soft boy scare". Its a fascinating phenomenon. People were actually telling women to be suspicious of men who were nice and not aggressive. Feminine/androgynous/gender non-conforming guys got hit by this even harder. I experienced this firsthand. You could literally be the softest, friendliest, most non-aggressive male on the planet and people would act like you're literally Elliot Roger, going out of their way to read ill intentions into your words/action with t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/04/24 07:23 AM |
| 2 | Is Male Loneliness Self-Inflicted?Yes it is self inflicted. All the times I got rejected I had secretly paid them off to reject me while impersonating someone else because I'm a masochist and I loved being depressed. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/24 07:34 AM |
| 4 | Do men blame women for their problems?Women make up 50% of society and influence it accordingly. Society in general is not treating men well. Therefore, women are part of the problem. Of course, so are other men, but that doesn't mean the statement is wrong. To pretend as if women have no influence on men's issues is to pretend they aren't intelligent and capable enough to influence society, which is misogynist. The waters get a little muddy, though. I draw the line at MGTOWs and Red Pillers saying female nature is evil. No, misandr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/24 07:31 AM |
| 32 | Traditionalism/Conservatism is in many ways compatible with feminism.Imagine being so fabulously wealthy that your household can afford for only one partner to work and then still wanting to get paid for the easier role of staying home and cleaning. In their ideal world, feminists would get all the benefits of trad gender roles, while also getting all the benefits from emancipation. Take care of us, but also we're also somehow still strong and independent. And they would achieve this by trapping men in trad gender roles. It would be like gender based feudalism, b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/24 07:23 AM |
| 1 | The worst a woman can do is reject you...Its not the rejection itself but often the way its delivered. I doubt many people who make this statement have ever been treated like a night stalker for just speaking to a woman in a respectful manner. I doubt they know what is like to be afraid for their own safety because others will see them as a threat to be eliminated. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 07/04/24 07:18 AM |
| 1 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".it’s a specific lens that refers to seeing women as hyper-sexualized objects who are “sexy” in a narrow way, and doesn’t usually see them as full humans. Then why is it called "male gaze" as if its trying to associate with all men? Why not call it like the asshole gaze or the rapist gaze or something? There is absolutely a female gaze— you should try searching it on Tik Tok, because nerdier, more feminine guys make up the bulk of what’s considered the female gaze. Big, muscle-y, hyper-masculine … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/24 07:09 AM |
| 2 | Casual Misandry"Just because you have daddy issues doesn't mean you get to make obscene statements like men make you uncomfortable" has to be one of the greatest zingers of all time. I'm adding it to my personal dictionary of comebacks. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/24 08:32 AM |
| 5 | Men’s therapyBecause therapy doesn't actually do anything to fix the problems at their source. Maybe that's fine for women, due to the discrepancy between (average) male and female psychology when it comes to dealing with problems. Men want to solve problems, women like to talk about it. Therapists don't solve problems, they talk about it. Which is why most therapists are women and it doesn't help men. Of course everything I just said assumes the problem is external, not internal. And that highlights the oth… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/24 08:28 AM |
| 4 | Queer spaces are filled with man-hate, bi women most affectedI once asked a gay sub about the refrain that "it sucks to be gay because men are gross". How common it was and the reasoning behind it. I explained that I'm a straight man myself who has no issue with people not finding men gross even though I do find men gross, but I'm failing to really conceptualize how someone can be attracted to a gender they find gross. I understand sexuality is not a choice but if you think a gender is gross (like I do about men), wouldn't you just be not attracted to the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/24 08:23 AM |
| 4 | Someone actually said “Go ahead, tell me how you were abused.” Holy shit. The same people that say “believe all women” in one breath then say “go ahead, tell me how you were abused” and “I don’t believe you” in the next sentence when I mention my own experiences. What the actual fuck…?Same logic as "evil men pretend to be nice, so being nice is actually evidence of being evil". Also only applied to men of course. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/24 08:13 AM |
| 9 | "Men are more violent" vs. "Certain crimes are worse when men do them"I think the best counter argument is that men aren't more violent in general, its just that the most violent people who ever lived are mostly men. Most serial killers are men, true, but so are most peace activists like MLK, Ghandi, etc. And not only that but men also use violence as way to protect innocents from violence more often than women do. For every male aggressor, there are 5 male protectors that use violence defensively. Most villains may be men but so are most heroes, and there are far… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/03/24 10:01 PM |
| 3 | How dare they build a men’s shelterTo be fair affordable housing is the biggest issue this generation is facing and is looking extremely dystopian at the moment...but then that logic should also apply to female shelters. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/03/24 11:46 PM |
| 3 | What a fucked up thing to saySo she's trying to profit from the horrific torture and murder of other women? What a psychopath. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/03/24 11:45 PM |
| 3 | “Men have trust issues because women wear makeup; women have trust issues because men rape and kill us”Yeah this guy picked a weird hill to die on, but the thing is she's still wrong because all of that has nothing to do with the topic. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/03/24 11:37 PM |
| 2 | When I was 30, I lost my virginity. Two points: 1. My mental headspace cleared up. 2. Everything I theorized about my circumcision was also true.I've only ever had sex with one woman, but in all the time that I've known her I've never been able to finish just from sex. I have to pull out and use my hand. I think society over-hypes how great sex is supposed to be, physically. Maybe something about porn placing too much emphasis on orgasm and all that? IDK but for me its more about the emotional and intimate connection. At some point you just have to accept that it is what it is. That being said though, if you feel pain then it could be th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/03/24 11:35 PM |
| 8 | As LWMA's, how do we respond to posts like this one?"Ok bro, then be a good boy and don't approach or try to have any kind of relationship with women, ever, since by your own words you're scaring them and they have good reasons to be afraid." He can believe what he says here all he wants as long as he actually lives by it, but I guarantee you this is white knight virtue signaling to draw more women to him. Point out the hypocrisy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/03/24 11:27 PM |
| 18 | This comment on a female-on-male sexual assault scene from Doctor WhoWomen can just stop men's advances, they can have pepperspray/tazer/gun. Same logic, and just as fucked up. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/03/24 11:16 PM |
| 25 | Is It Really a "Man's World?"Anyone who thinks that society caters towards men and fulfilling their desires has no imagination as to what kind of society that would actually look like. If I lived in a "man's world" that catered completely to me, I'd be living like Andrew Tate. I'd be driving my Ferrari to a shooting range and railing lines of baking soda in a harem chamber all day while a fleet of female slaves earn money for me. (And no, I'm not saying I'd prefer that world). Instead I drive an old pickup truck to work and… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/03/24 09:54 PM |
| 2 | Because we all know that men have never had their opinions of women tainted from their own bad experiences with them; and that no woman’s hatred of men has ever stemmed from not being able to get a bf.Its so much more than "I can't get a BF". Its being harassed and labelled an incel, Elliot Roger, rapist, etc. just for: expressing the desire to have a GF asking for help getting a GF trying to talk to women about what they want out of a BF not having a GF being horny just existing And the list goes on... | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/03/24 09:42 PM |
| 2 | “All men have to fear is liminal space”Meanwhile, the homeless war veteran PTSD experience... | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/03/24 09:38 PM |
| 3 | Asking all colleges: Where is our safe space?Safe spaces are psychotic. There are legitimate reasons for being afraid of men--such as past rape victims or whatnot. But something tells me that probably wasn't the case for all the women in that space. Legit androphobia is one thing, but this is clearly political. Also, even in the case of legit androphobia, I'm still against the concept of safe spaces. Its the responsibility of the person who has androphobia to deal with their issue, not make it a public issue that other people are responsib… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/24 09:28 PM |
| 2 | “Ugh men”Then stop dating fuckboys. I guarantee you that most women who end up with guys who treat them like a set of holes do so because they treat themselves like a set of holes. Its really easy to find guys who respect women. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/03/24 09:19 PM |
| 2 | “It’s men’s fault”I think its extremely shitty to use a child's death to attack the mother for her dating choices. Its possible she didn't know the guy was a psycho at first, that's not her fault if he turned out to be one. That said, the feminazi is also wrong, because its unfair to extrapolate what happened to her onto all men. If its true that the cops didn't take it seriously then yeah, they were assholes. But most men do take male on female violence seriously. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/03/24 09:15 PM |
| 3 | Dehumanising comparisons about men again and comparing them to poisonous foodFeminists unironically mirroring Donald Trump talking points is one of the most dystopian things I have ever seen. We really are headed towards the timeline where Idiocracy eventually becomes a documentary. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/03/24 09:11 PM |
| 3 | Men are 'careless and selfish'Classic begging the question/circular logic. "The sky is red." "No, its actually blue." "The fact that you would say its red proves how out of touch you are, which proves its blue." Otherwise known as the "of courses spies would say they aren't spies" argument. Which highlights a pretty scary resemblance to fascism. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/03/24 09:07 PM |
| 3 | Improving Boys’ Education to Reduce PolarizationYeah, its almost like sexual selection is a kind of soft, more ethical form of natural eugenics. I've often wondered if the type of aggressive, criminal men that feminists love to complain about (i.e. the real toxic masculinity) could be bred out of existence within a few generations. In principle it should be really simple: only have sex with gentle, polite men and both the genetic and social factors that cause aggression towards women will disappear. Of course there will always be outliers, bu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/24 02:26 AM |
| 2 | Intersectionality is terrible in practice, but the theory its based on isnt badThe truth is that intersectionality does exist, but it applies more to men than women. Intersectionality could very well be a useful concept when talking about black men, for example. But the feminist lie that women have it worse than men prevents that from ever being brought up because they will always focus on black women instead .Which means black men, the group that intersectionality could actually help shine some light on, will be ignored. Its ironic really. In jumping to claim oppression p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/03/24 08:31 AM |
| 1 | A Look at HeterofatalismI've seen this trend too. It also seems to affect gay men which I find baffling as well. When confronted on it, people make it seem as though it has something to do with looks. Men are hairy, rough, big, burly, not delicate and beautiful and cute like women. Ok, fine. I'm a straight man, so I definitely get that. I find women beautiful. But if you're a straight woman or a gay man, shouldn't you think that "hairy, rough, big, burly" etc. is beautiful? I always imagined sexuality as an aesthetic c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/03/24 08:25 AM |
| 2 | No space for peaceful incelsYeah, it was insane to me how that sub got banned. Misogyny was heavily moderated against and people did not get away with being a misogynist there. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/03/24 08:09 AM |
| 3 | Is a large component of the male loneliness epidemic the general feeling of being undesirable?Your feelings are valid. A lot of guys feel the same way, trust me. I did for most of my 20's, which unfortunately kind of ruined such a valuable time in my life. The important thing is to realize its not *just* a feeling. Or rather, many guys feel this way for a good reason. They actually *are* undesirable, according to mainstream standards. If a feeling comes from accurately assessing reality, is it really a feeling anymore or just a fact? Sorry if this seems like a nitpick, but I just want to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/03/24 08:07 AM |
| 2 | The "Alone At Night" Argument"You don't have to be afraid when you're out by yourself at night" I like to reply with "you're right, which is why you don't either." We need to get past this bullshit defense where people act like "Gee, I'm really sorry, I would love to trust men but unfortunately I'm just forced not to by all the daily rapes that occur to 4/5 women in my apartment block." No. No one is forcing you to be afraid because the statistics aren't that bad. This something you are choosing for yourself because it bene… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/03/24 07:58 AM |
| 0 | How do we get people to have more empathy for incel men?Being lonely is not a mental illness. This would only exacerbate the idea that if you don't have a date, something is wrong with you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/03/24 07:52 AM |
| 6 | How do we get people to have more empathy for incel men?I'm afraid the answer is that they never will until women start suffering in the same way. I hate to say this because it sounds spiteful, and I definitely don't advocate for turnabout, but I really do think that might be the only possibility. As time goes on those women who called every nerdy or slightly awkward guy an incel will probably be alone when they gets older. In their 20's they can circulate themselves among a few "chads" through hookup culture, but as they get older and start to lose … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/03/24 07:49 AM |
| 6 | Do men see women as objects?So what? Its also true that same part of your brain that processes is cuteness is the same part of your brain that processes violence and hunger. That's why people say things like "Aw that puppy is so cute I could just eat him up" or "I could squeeze him to death". Does this mean most people are violent psychopaths who want to murder and eat dogs? No. The human brain is actually still very primitive in a lot of ways. But just because the brain functions one way at a mechanical level does not mea… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/03/24 07:36 AM |
| 7 | “I’d rather support a false accuser than an innocent man”The problem is that "possible" is a meaningless word in this context. Everyone is a possible something or other. But the only reason you consider them a possible rapist specifically was because that accusation was floated over them in the first place. Allow me to demonstrate. Hey everyone, shu/cari raped me. See, shy/cari is now a possible rapist. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 17/03/24 07:28 AM |
| 44 | Improving Boys’ Education to Reduce PolarizationI can't see any reason why boys would need to start school later than girls. Its not like boys are any less capable or something. Its funny how things have come full circle now. It used to be that people saw women/girls as less competent academically, and now they are using the fact that girls are doing better in school as ammunition to make the same claim in reverse. Fighting historical misogyny with misandry, as if two wrongs make a right. The answer is so much simpler than that, though. Boys … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/03/24 07:24 AM |
| 15 | New EU Directive on Femicide has been approved: Male Victims are second class citizens in EU nowThe irony is that labelling of incels is, itself, actual hate speech that could very well result in real violence against incels. I'm glad I'm not a single man living in the EU, or even anywhere else for that matter. The rest of you should probably make sure you have some weapons on hand that you are licensed and trained to defend yourself with. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/24 03:09 AM |
| 1 | On a serious note: Can we talk about how men of color aren't allowed to be vanilla or "squares"?I agree. My point was that its more of spectrum. Black > brown >white > asain in ascending order of "square". "Egg"? I've only seen that term used to describe feminine men that the speaker thinks are really transwomen who haven't "hatched" yet. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/24 03:03 AM |
| 13 | Came across a 17-year old post critiquing how feminism is used to promote continuing guilt in men.Of course feminism has a ton of similarities to religion. And its not a bug, its a feature. Feminism was started by upper-middle class white women who would have had the luxury to study history in great detail, learn the mechanisms of religion, and realize how it was used to control people for thousands of years. It was just a matter of translating those mechanisms from spiritual ones into gendered ones. For example, toxic masculinity is basically original sin repackaged. Christianity also inten… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/24 12:19 AM |
| 4 | On a serious note: Can we talk about how men of color aren't allowed to be vanilla or "squares"?Another reason is because sometimes men of color are fetishized as an offshoot of the bad boy fetish. Black and brown men are seen as more dangerous, exciting, aggressive, etc. due to being more "uncivilized" (/s) than white men. But because feminism claims that women don't/shouldn't like those traits in men, some of them turn to dating/hooking up with racial minorities. Take the Kardashians for example. As soon as they got their mixed race babies they went immediately back dating white guys. Se… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/24 12:06 AM |
| 15 | Tired Of The "Men Do It More" BSEven if every single crime ever committed was committed by a man, that still wouldn't justify misandry. Because at the end of the day, its still a minority of men who commit crimes. Its a "all rectangles are squares but not all squares are rectangles" type situation. Oftentimes someone will go on a nasty rant about they've never been DM'd gross inappropriate things by a woman and so on. My response is "so every man on the planet has sent you those DMs then?" Also, male on male crime is a far mor… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 05:34 PM |
| 2 | D.N. top tier. 🤡Its ok. I could have been more specific but I said "account" because I figured I didn't know if this person was male or female. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 24/01/24 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?Them as in, women or men? I don't know what gender you are. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 07:48 AM |
| 3 | D.N. top tier. 🤡How am I simp? I'm agreeing with your post that the comment represents misandry. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 24/01/24 03:19 AM |
| 5 | D.N. top tier. 🤡If missing the point were a movie, this account could be the main character. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 24/01/24 03:15 AM |
| 8 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?The way you phrased that comment is in pretty stark contrast to what you said before since its a lot more nuanced. If you had said this right up front I wouldn't have had as much of an issue. I get it. I talk about culture a lot, specifically dating culture. And its the same thing. I don't think its some kind of problem with women, just a cultural issue. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and say the same thing. I just think you should be careful not to make sweeping generalization… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 03:10 AM |
| 8 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?You just have to simply recognize that just because some men did something bad to you, does not mean all men are like that or that it is a systemic problem in "male culture". I would say the same to a MGTOW who made negative statements about women after being ruined in divorce courts three times. Its horrible what happened to him, but not all women are like that. People are often quick to fall back on this whole "lived experiences" arguement in order to defend generalized hate towards men. But i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 02:08 AM |
| 11 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?Wow. That is one of the most insane and unacceptable things I have ever heard of and I'm truly sorry you experienced that. I would be mortified and enraged. I have no idea how you held your composure. Have they at least stopped doing this? I never experienced it in college myself (starting 2013 in California) and I even went to a fairly liberal school (just wasn't the insane SJW kind). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 01:48 AM |
| 5 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?Sounds to me like you are trying to say most men are misogynists but just not have to deal with the consequences for such a blatantly misandrist statement by making it sound softer. I recognize no difference between my experience did leave me with the impression that most men to some degree view women as lesser, usually unconsciously. and most men are misogynists | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 01:43 AM |
| 3 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?It wants me to create an an account to read it. In general: I agree women have good reasons to be cautious. But that doesn't mean being overly cautious, and that treating innocent people like threats is ok either. Especially since it doesn't even work to keep the bad ones away. For example: if a woman crosses the street, her attacker can just cross the street as well. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 12:18 AM |
| 13 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?"Look to your left, look to your right one of those men will rape you" thing. Wait, that actually happens? If you don't mind me asking, when was this? I'm not trying to make you date yourself but I thought it was just an exaggerated family guy joke. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 12:16 AM |
| 8 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?So you're saying most men are misogynists? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 12:14 AM |
| 10 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?But what has been forgotten in these conversations is what actually is an ethical, respectful way to approach. Yes. And one has to wonder why there is such a resistance to this. You would think feminists that are allegedly so concerned about women would want to offer up a correct way to approach women, so that men who wanted to not be creepy could avoid doing so. But defining clear boundaries of acceptability would mean taking away a woman's power to call a man creepy for any reason at any time.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 10:24 PM |
| 17 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?That story right there is heartbreaking because it shows just how hard it is to heal from being treated as a monster. Even when you know the person doing it has a legit mental disorder, its not something you can "just get over". And you at least have the excuse of being able to point to her diagnosis as evidence that it wasn't your fault. Most guys don't even have that. (Not to downplay your problems and say they weren't just as bad or anything, so sorry if it comes off that way). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 10:15 PM |
| 19 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?You can't give her too much credit, though. She also mischaracterized male attraction towards women--like the kind she witnessed in the strip club chapter--as very beastly and gross, even though she herself was attracted to women as well. Which she tried to defend as a "well women are more wholesome about it because we're less visual somehow" as if that would even make it better even if it were true. So you can't give her too much respect. She's an unreliable narrator. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 10:12 PM |
| 13 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?The byproduct of thinking you're scary is that you can't trust anybody, you're never comfortable in your own skin, you don't know why people love you, you think you should take as less space as possible in this world. This exact feeling is what I was trying to capture so thank you for putting so eloquently. Even now, when my girlfriend praises me, I laugh it off. And I feel bad about that too, because it still sounds incredibly goofy to my ears. Don't get me wrong, I believe she's telling the tr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 10:07 PM |
| 2 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?I think you completely misunderstood my post. You are taking a lot of what I said at face value, when I'm actually in agreement with you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 09:23 PM |
| 12 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?I actually made another post about the female forcefield specifically. TL;DR: I totally understand the need for it, but I wish there was a better one that didn't misfire and excoriate innocent men as often. I'm glad it worked for you, but it doesn't work for a lot of women. They still attract bad guys. Why? Because the forcefield overcompensating the way it does means its really effective at repelling men who empathize with women and don't want them to feel uncomfortable. But bad men don't care … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 09:19 PM |
| 2 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?Oh right, duh. I know about resting bitch face. The funny thing is though, for all feminists complain about being unfairly judged for having resting bitch face and not smiling more, that issue actually applies more to men. Like almost every other feminist talking point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 09:13 PM |
| 3 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?Well you're certainly right about one thing. Nowadays I do show the real me, but I definitely didn't do that before. That's a valid criticism. But I'm actually glad you brought that up because that's exactly my point. Some guys do become closed off but its only because they were rejected and made to feel like a monster before--when they were opened up--in the first place. So they try as best they can to be as dispassionate and neutral as possible to avoid appearing as if they have any interest i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 09:10 PM |
| 2 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?I sympathize with your point. But I tried to be like that once upon a time and had an experience that easily could have turned out really bad for me. I consider myself very lucky that it didn't, and given all the documented cases of innocent college men being wrongly accused, lucky that I survived college in general. What you're suggesting is undoubtedly better for one's own mental health, though. That said its walking a narrow balancing beam between not beating yourself up too much and warrante… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 08:30 PM |
| 2 | Why do you need to see men with female friends in order to think he's valuable and not weird?Exactly. Its like a cell membrane that lets in harmful pathogens but not nutrients that are actually useful. At that point, the cell would be better off if the membrane didn't exist at all. Of course, the ideal would be a membrane that filters out pathogens while still letting the good things in. But the first step in getting the social version of that for women is getting rid of the current one that exists. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 07:45 PM |
| 6 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?This is basically what I was trying to say at the end of the 4th paragraph, thank you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 07:42 PM |
| 10 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?Nowadays though, I’ve come to recognize that as long as I’m not hurting anyone I should not let that kind of messaging get to me. I wanted to highlight this because THIS is the message guys need to hear and I'm glad you learned it. It took me a long time. I wish I'd done it sooner. Sure, I thought I had, but the truth was that deep down I didn't really FEEL it, and still had self-doubts and low self-esteem. Maybe its not really possible to truly internalize this message 100%. I don't know. But I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 07:42 PM |
| 9 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?I don't know what RBF is, but your experience is almost a perfect summary of mine. I can tell they look and glance and it's not a look of appreciation or curiosity but of concerned analysis of sorts. That's just it. This kind of treatment turns a normally warm individual into a damaged and guarded person. And then people pick up on that emotional damage/vulnerability, and treat it as a turn off (despite all the things feminism claims about allowing men to be vulnerable). Most don't want someone … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 07:39 PM |
| 5 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?Yeah, I've wondered about this too. I've been trying to pay more attention to stuff like this lately so that when it comes up in conversation I can more confidently reference my own experiences. But its difficult sometimes, and that's one of the insidious things about society. It gets us so used to being seen as a threat, that it becomes difficult to prove the conditioning even exists, ironically because it is so ubiquitous. Yes, I know I'm borrowing the language of feminism in how it talks abou… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 07:31 PM |
| 5 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?I mean, not really at this at this point since we know full well feminism isn't actually liberal, but you know what I mean. It bears pointing out as often as possible. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 07:26 PM |
| 3 | Did anyone else develop a complex about how "scary" they were to women?Sure, go for it. I'd love to hear your thoughts. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Government guidelines on teaching children sexual consent advise starting early and using plain language (with arbitrary focus on protecting "women and children")I don't think its necessarily "shy" to ask. I think you were just being reasonable. People often pathologize men who aren't overly risk-taking and gutsy as being socially impaired when actually its the opposite. Shyness is a normal human response to being concerned about stepping over someone else's boundaries and definitely a good thing. I think it shows a lot of class and respect. That said, you're right, it can go too far as well. Its definitely possible to detect implicit consent, but its ha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 08:32 AM |
| 2 | Why do you need to see men with female friends in order to think he's valuable and not weird?Same reason why a guy is suspect for being a virgin past a certain age. Female approval is a sign that he is "safe". Other women accepted him, so therefore there must be some good reason, right? Of course there are two problems with this: Its misandrist to treat all men with an automatic assumption of threat. If someone said that white people should only accept black people who have fight friends, almost anyone would easily be able to point out why that is racist. It assumes, incorrectly, that m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/24 08:20 AM |
| 16 | Male feminism is a great extent just re-packaged chivalry.Another comparison is the "white savoir complex". I.E. virtue signaling. Trying way too hard to go out of your way to show positive support for the historically oppressed group to earn favor with them. I don't generally agree with a lot of things Jordan Petersen and other conservative chuds say, but they're right that male feminists are often weasels. They want to get laid, or cover up pre-existing scumminess towards women, and they think being white knights will help with that. Which I'm sure w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/24 08:25 AM |
| 2 | Government guidelines on teaching children sexual consent advise starting early and using plain language (with arbitrary focus on protecting "women and children")I've always found that perspective to be really strange. To me, asking to kiss or whatever is actually kind of sexy and I even appreciate it when my GF does it to me. Of course, its not necessary for every time, but the first time at the very least? Is it that much of a turn off? Kinda seems like yet another example of the "women expecting men to be mind readers" theme. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/01/24 08:15 AM |
| 30 | What is society's crippling obsession with friendless/single men? Why would such demographic live rent-free in most people's heads?There's probably a lot of merit to this. Its a recurring theme in these discussions that woke culture simply repackages conservative ideals. For example, the idea that men are beasts who need to be tamed by women/society was regarded as common sense in the past and used as justification for a lot of repugnant old fashioned opinions. Its just that this narrative has been changed to fit the incel narrative (which is what people really men when they say lonely). Almost like men-as-beasts is the def… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/24 12:43 AM |
| 5 | UN should consider Killing of Drafted Men as Civilian CasualtiesIts not a vindictive attitude. Living in society is a social contract. By having other rights protected, you also agree to defend that same society that gives you those rights when required. Human beings are selfish, its just our nature. If military service was completely voluntary then too few people may volunteer, at times. The reason women should be drafted too is because their lives aren't any more valuable than men's. Its part of equality. If you want equal status in society, you have to ag… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/24 12:30 AM |
| 39 | Contrary to common notion, men aren't as conservative as a whole as society makes it out to be, quite the opposite, most men are the innovative & curious types, but I think in political terms is a little more complicated and nuanced than thatAnother interesting point too is that the social reforms that led to women's equality could never have happened, unless more men than not were on board. If men as a whole decided "no, you're staying in the kitchen actually" then that would pretty much just be how it still is today. But that's clearly not the case. Just looking around at our current society is already the perfect refutation of the idea that men are mostly conservative. If anything, its the opposite. The ideas of modern feminism f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/24 07:14 PM |
| 10 | Studs and Sluts: The (Perceived) Double Standards of SexThis is why my favorite retort is "not all men are your ex boyfriend, honey". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/24 09:19 AM |
| 2 | I really love this scene of Zootopia. It depicts exactly the feelings of men who can't bear to be shown as dangerousReminds me a bit of the anime Beastars. It had a similar setup with anthropomorphic animals and tension between predator and prey species, but came down much more on the "people have a right to be afraid of predators" side of the argument. Ironic that an anime from conservative Japan would have more in agreement with supposedly liberal western feminists than a western animation would. Question: is this a central theme of the film? To be honest I've never seen it and actually wrote it off as a ki… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/24 09:05 AM |
| 1 | just treat women like human beings-what does that mean?and it always seems to be something super obvious that a lot of men in relationships totally do but lonely men somehow cant seem to grasp, yet a lot of men who apparently dont treat women as human beings also dont struggle to date, in fact, with how many women complain about them, one would think they are actually very succesdull at it. My friend, you're uncovered one of the great truths (or shall I say lies) of society. As you pointed out, "treat women as human beings" makes no sense because mo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/24 08:57 AM |
| 3 | Feminism isn't for everyone, it's just for women. People that say it is for everyone, are either naive or deliberately manipulative.Its a classic example of the fascist doublethink maxim: "Our enemy is strong and weak at the same time". Men are weak and need women to help them, here are all these examples of women helping men. But also, you don't deserve our help anyway. Its all designed to create this sense of "I'm morally superior to you and you don't deserve my help but look at me I'm so good I'm going to give it to you anyway, be thankful mongrel" without coming right out and saying that because it would sound condescend… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/24 08:49 AM |
| 1 | Men and consentIts disturbing how all of those responses are clear examples of people infantilizing women. To be fair, she did act pretty immature, and to some degree its not her fault because society treats women with kid gloves, but that just proves my point. Most people are so willing to give women the benefit of the doubt and side with them no matter what that it leads to absolution of responsibility. Perhaps this is hyperbole, but I really feel like its also pedophilic in a way, how men are expected to tr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/24 08:43 AM |
| 3 | UN should consider Killing of Drafted Men as Civilian CasualtiesOr here is an idea maybe just draft women too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/24 08:37 AM |
| 14 | Studs and Sluts: The (Perceived) Double Standards of SexI've constantly overheard college-aged women complaining about "fuckbois" (the specific type of male slut/pickup artist) and how annoying they were. And I can sympathize with them on that. But at the end of the day, you have to realize that guys wouldn't be acting this way if it didn't work. Its the fuckbois who (mostly) get laid, even though many women complain about them. That speaks volumes about what most women (really) want. They're just ashamed to admit it (and possibly, rightly so). So su… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/24 08:34 AM |
| 0 | You would think with how hard society negatively obsesses over incels, we could have actually stopped so much time, energy and resources from being wasted and instead invested into some sort of mental health campaign for them and romantically-struggling men in general, instead of scapegoating themNow imagine that kind of impotence and fear multiplied across a life of romantic failure and with a brain that experiences heightened emotion. Imagine the emotional anguish that leaves a person in. Believe me, I don't need to imagine it. I understand its a degree thing, but I just feel like what's the point in bringing it up, you know? Ok, so maybe some neurodivergent people experience this even worse. But you make it sound like you need to be neurodivergent to experience it when that's not the … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/24 08:25 AM |
| 1 | End of (male) cultural romanticism - now what?I agree with everything you said. Empty platitudes are definitely a big problem and I didn't mean to convey that at all. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/24 06:29 PM |
| 2 | It is sad when showing affection to your male children is treated as something inappropriate. This is also a reason why solution to male problems cannot come from the right wingI don't want to be kissed by my dad, and I don't think that's an example of toxic masculinity. Doesn't mean I don't love my dad or vice versa. Its just a difference in cultural values. I don't have a problem with men who do kiss male family members. In many Eastern cultures, its more normal, and less so in Western cultures. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/24 08:41 PM |
| 1 | You would think with how hard society negatively obsesses over incels, we could have actually stopped so much time, energy and resources from being wasted and instead invested into some sort of mental health campaign for them and romantically-struggling men in general, instead of scapegoating themI'm struggling to understand the link between "being neurodivergent" and "being upset that toxic behavoirs get rewarded". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/24 08:33 PM |
| 6 | You would think with how hard society negatively obsesses over incels, we could have actually stopped so much time, energy and resources from being wasted and instead invested into some sort of mental health campaign for them and romantically-struggling men in general, instead of scapegoating themas if being successful with women is indicative of moral character at all If anything, its usually the opposite. You hit the nail on the end. They don't want incels do go away by converting them back into "normies", they want them to stay around to have a boogeyman to point at as well as something to take perverse pleasure in mocking. With how much they say incels harm women (which is drastically overblown) you would think its the number one problem they want to fix out of selfish interest at th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/24 08:28 PM |
| 2 | A thing people get wrong is thinking agency directly correlates to safety, while really it's the oppositeModern feminists want women to have all the agency, but also be coddled at the same time. Its a paradox. Women get the upsides of both, men get the downsides of both. You're right, in an ideal society both genders should get the upsides of both. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/24 08:22 PM |
| 5 | End of (male) cultural romanticism - now what?Its very bizarre, how the political conversation is all about women standing up for themselves, being independent, and not taking shit from toxic men, being equal, etc. Which are all good things, as far as I'm concerned. But then you look at what sells, and its loads and loads of media with male love interests that act more like the "patriarchal toxic man" that would be more at home in the early 1900's, the very same era pseudo-progressives are publicly saying they want to escape the legacy of. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/01/24 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Revisiting the feminist situation in South KoreaYeah, maybe so. Like women are one rung down the ladder but men are five. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/01/24 02:04 AM |
| 24 | Revisiting the feminist situation in South KoreaHonestly, Asian countries all seem to have an even greater disparity between expectations for women and expectations for men than western countries. In other words, it seems the extent of women's liberation from traditional gender roles is about the same as the west, but the extent of men's liberation from traditional gender roles is a lot worse. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/12/23 08:41 AM |
| 1 | Delusional isn't even the word 🤦🏾♂️It's not paranoia, it's compliance. Well phrase it however you want, but my point is that you're just giving in and devaluing yourself. You're not gonna get arrested from talking to a cashier. By complying you are just legitimizing their hate. I get it dude, there is a climate of woke culture, but 99.99% of women in real life aren't going to get you arrested because you walked up and ordered a coffee. You sound just as bad as the other side at this point, like those women who refuse to talk to m… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 29/12/23 08:30 AM |
| 5 | "Feminism is only seen as Misandry because it puts men on the same ground as women"But when you point out about how feminism only focuses on raising up women they say the exact opposite. That whole "we're disproportionately lifting up women because they need more lifting up." So which is it? Are they lifting up women or pushing down men? The narrative changes depending on whatever suits them best in the moment. Even if the latter were true, pushing down men to women's level wouldn't the right way to go about it. Sure, everyone is equal if everyone is miserable but wouldn't it … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/12/23 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Losing their leverage and their minds 😂"[Most] Men aren't hypergamous like how society encourages women to be, and that makes us look bad, we're going to say hypergamy is good" is pretty much what I imagine the thought process was here. Its so transparent that its mind numbing. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 28/12/23 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Delusional isn't even the word 🤦🏾♂️That seems a bit too paranoid, man. If its a service position you're probably fine. I mean, unless you're flirting with them then the expectation of having to interact for their job should pretty much head off any issues. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 28/12/23 09:00 PM |
| 3 | How feminism makes me want to die: a detailed but relatively short explanation with an exampleA lot better. I finally met a wonderful woman who really boosted my self-esteem and helped lift me out of a dark place. But the memory of what it was like before I met her still haunts me sometimes, because finding her basically amounted to pure luck. Long story short, there is a very real chance that if I had dome something slightly different I never would have met her. She was probably my only chance at happiness and to be honest I'm scared of losing her and going back to where I was before. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/12/23 03:32 AM |
| 12 | Delusional isn't even the word 🤦🏾♂️Ah yes, the ultimate evil: men talking to women in public spaces. /s Reading this kind of stuff makes me feel sick. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 27/12/23 05:14 PM |
| 1 | Is "Male Domination" Real?I think people that do think male domination is real in contemporary society have repressed BDSM fetishes and are projecting them into real life. I've never once done anything or seen anything done by a man in public that could be called "dominating" women. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 27/12/23 08:35 AM |
| 2 | SpeechlessI like how she completely ignored the issue of romantic loneliness and focused on the kid thing because she had an answer for that one. Even so, "just adopt a kid and be a single dad even though society hates single dads and we live in a dual income economy" is astoundingly terrible advice. I wonder if she has the same standard, and thinks women should just be single mothers. Lastly, the guy is an incel for being lonely and not sure what he should do with his life? Congratulations, the entire hu… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 27/12/23 08:29 AM |
| 2 | I'm sick of how much it seems like men and women don't even like each other.Reminds me of those boomer "I hate my wife" type of jokes you'd see in old sitcoms. And then the female characters clap back by calling men stupid, ugly, troglodytes, etc. You can say that's just joking, but there's always some kernel of truth to comedy. Even if its entirely subconscious. Thankfully this seems to be mainly a thing with the older generations and is slowly going away. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/12/23 08:24 AM |
| 1 | "The Story Of Art Without Men"I could see this as a funny gag, if the book was entirely empty for all of known human history up until the last few centuries. Or just like, images of the Sistine Chapel with black bars over all the paintings, the statue of David as an empty pedestal, etc. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/12/23 08:22 AM |
| 1 | "Only 2% of SA allegations are false. Trust victims!" Bullshit.It doesn't matter how rare false accusations are. Its innocent until proven guilty. Even if it was 0.0001%, each case still needs to be treated with due process. It would be hypocritical not to, since we treat every other crime that way. For example, I'm sure there is a non-zero percentage of accused murderers who were actually innocent, but I don't see anyone saying we should believe in all murder accusations. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/12/23 08:17 AM |
| 1 | "Men have abused women since time immemorial, it's time to compensate."Even if it was true, it would still not be just to inflict punishment on people who had nothing to do with those crimes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/12/23 08:14 AM |
| 6 | "Men should open up about their problems and show more emotion" is disingenuous and downright awful advice.You hear it ad-nauseam from feminism: men are only hostile because they do not open about their problems. In the logic of feminism, it's so incredibly hostile to suppress your emotions (even though hostility itself is an emotion), but the people attacking men and making them want to protect their emotions in the first place? Nope, not hostile at all. Describing men protecting their emotions as hostility is like describing abuse victims being mistrustful of others as abuse. Typically, if people a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/12/23 08:09 AM |
| 5 | How feminism makes me want to die: a detailed but relatively short explanation with an exampleThe thing that made me want to die wasn't sexual objectification but rather the consequences of it: the demonization of men as assumed-by-default predators. All through college and the first half of my 20's I put in a lot of effort to approach women, be gregarious, and all that other stuff people tell you to do. But I got rejected over and over again, more times than I can even remember. Most of the time I couldn't even be friends with women without them cutting it off. And even worse than the r… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/12/23 08:04 AM |
| 3 | Double standard with regard to insecurityI agree 100%. Its so dumb because literally everyone is insecure about something. No one is perfectly confident in 100% of situations. Sure, maybe you can pretend, but not for real. Its like society's image of the ideal man is based of some macho Hollywood character from a movie instead of a real person with flaws and emotions. But imagine the uproar if men started basing their image of the ideal woman off of Bond girls or something. (This is a motif that intersects with a lot of other men's iss… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/12/23 07:51 AM |
| 1 | A man is not responsible for other men's toxicity.I've noticed a trend of feminists using past bad experiences with men (supposedly they and every other woman they know are all somehow all coincidentally abuse survivors, for example) to justify this idea. Even assuming that's true (which goes against factual statistics), you would think that would make them want to meet good men even more, but no, they excoriate them instead by casting aspersions through such a wide net. Either feminists are stupid for not realizing this or...they don't actuall… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/23 08:47 AM |
| 3 | Tired Of The "Women And Children" NarrativeThe actual biological basis for this sentiment is that women ARE more valuable, evolutionarily, because they can help repopulate the tribe. But if we go with that logic, it means women would be relegated to the traditional role of baby making factories (something feminists are against). But does it stop them from using this logic? No. That right there tells you everything you need to know about feminism. Gender roles for thee but not for me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/23 08:36 AM |
| 0 | Schools need to let boys be boys againTestosterone increases your energy, adrenaline, and strength. So what happens when you place a room full of 14-19y/o boys going through the height of their puberty in front of a computer all day with no P.E. and no recess? They're going to get bored, lash out, and give up. Not every guy is a sports jock who likes rough housing. Some of us are brainy and couldn't care less about sports and physical activities. Some of us enjoy pursuing intellectual activities. You make boys/men sound like a monol… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/23 08:31 AM |
| 2 | why is the concept of "male loneliness epidemic" such a controversial topic among female/feminist groups?You forgot "3. Saying that men can just compliment and hug each other more and that somehow fixes the issue." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/23 08:17 AM |
| 2 | "Violence against men is committed by other men". Ok, so what?Yeah I'd rather fight a bigger man than me if he's barehanded than a woman with a knife. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/23 08:15 AM |
| 3 | Let us now praise awkward men"Awkward" is often an arbitrary label people apply to others (especially men) who don't have a carefully crafted and completely fake persona. They think being charming means never saying anything dumb at all because they're basing their definition of a "charming guy" from unrealistic hollywood movies. When it reality, being human and relatable is what actually makes people charming. And guess what: real humans are awkward sometimes. We make mistakes and say dumb things because social situations … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/11/23 09:15 AM |
| 2 | Why does it seem like whatever a man says/does is scrutinised under the worst faith possible?I've literally shared such thoughts as: Gee, it would be nice if women courted men sometimes. It would really mean a lot to me and improve my self-esteem to feel desired. I wonder what kinds of boundaries women have and what makes them feel uncomfortable so I can make sure to not do that. And they got translated in feminist logic to: Women are objects and I want to make them my sex slaves. Women are objects and I want to make them my sex slaves. Radical feminism really is fascinating. Linguists … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/10/23 07:52 AM |
| 3 | Why does it seem like whatever a man says/does is scrutinised under the worst faith possible?They can't crap all over bad men who actually are toxic because those guys don't care. Its only good men who care how women feel so that is who radical feminists go after. They just want an audience to take their wrath out on while also continuing to date the same toxic assholes they complain about. Its kind of like a domestic abuse survivor defending her abuser and attacking everyone who comes to help her because she's so far in denial that the abuse is even happening. Its easier to be mad at a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/10/23 07:49 AM |
| 2 | Honest question: why are people in this group not just conservative?We just seem right leaning because we are right of the hyper radicalized left wing wackos, which really isn't saying much. TBH, none of the traits you listed are uniquely conservative or even conservative at all, arguably. I think you should explain what your definition of conservative is because it seems way off base to me. Either you are genuinely ignorant of politics or you are willfully obscuring things. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/10/23 07:42 AM |
| 5 | A genuine sincere question, why is it when it comes to incel-shaming, are autistic men one of running jokes behind the trope? Like I can understand a cliche like the stereotypical fat nerd, but why did autistic guys have to be thrown into the mix?Because people think of autistics as all being like the most extreme cases such as Chris Chan, when in reality there are a whole lot more issues going on with someone like that (such as learning disability). They don't get that its a collection of symptoms and a spectrum. For example I don't have any issues with social cues but I could probably be considered autistic due to other symptoms such as sensory ones. Its just a convenient way to pathologize and otherize lonely, introverted men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/10/23 07:37 AM |
| 5 | "It's worse for women"I guarantee you either of those people would hate if they had to become a male overnight. Just in terms of dealing with how much people care about male problems and being expected to shut up about it. Or even better yet, once they see what dating is like for men. They would change their tune real quick. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/10/23 07:31 AM |
| 1 | Don't you think that the feminist concept of objectification is very problematic?I don't think there is much of an orgasm gap. In fact, feminists also attack men for "caring too much" about female orgasms. Its a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation they've made. A typical tactic for them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/23 08:26 AM |
| 1 | I don't understand how some people can think men being good people or even decent people is a rare or strange phenomenon.Yeah, you're not proving them wrong at that point. I say, be a relentlessly good person in the face of that. Don't give them a villain to easily discredit. Give them someone it will be problematic to discredit. For example, when all the feminists went after TJ Kirk and he was like "Actually I've donated more money to charities that help women and girls than all of you combined" and showed proof of it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/23 08:22 AM |
| 1 | The Momentous Khan v. Yale Decision and a Defeat for False Accuser AdvocacySo if a woman accuses one of them of rape right this second, by their own logic, they would have to agree they are guilty, right? Even though they know they are not? Oh right. I forgot politicians never have to suffer the consequences of their own rules. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/23 08:18 AM |
| 1 | How Is MVAW Systemic?WTF, do they seriously think men all over the world are conspiring to commit acts of violence against women and it's government policy for women to be victims of male violence? Dude, did you not see the most recent email in the patriarchy forum? It says which women the government is planning to attack next Tuesday. /s | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/23 08:11 AM |
| 2 | Governor Gavin Newsom will soon sign a bill reflexively punishing men with legal fees, including punitive damages, when their defamation lawsuits against rape accusers are unsuccessful. So if you are falsely accused of rape but lose a hard-to-win defamation lawsuit, you get punished by the state.Speaking in purely hypothetical terms of course, I wonder how Gavin would react if a female LWMA wanted to accuse him of rape to prove a point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/23 07:59 AM |
| 1 | Governor Gavin Newsom will soon sign a bill reflexively punishing men with legal fees, including punitive damages, when their defamation lawsuits against rape accusers are unsuccessful. So if you are falsely accused of rape but lose a hard-to-win defamation lawsuit, you get punished by the state.Why not? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/23 07:58 AM |
| 2 | "Men's greatest fear in pursuing relationship with a woman is that he will be laughed at or rejected. Women's greatest fear is that she will be physically harmed-raped-killed." -Thoughts?I'm sure that's true. Most women probably do fear that. But what really matters is whether that fear is justified or not. (Its not). This is an important conversation because "but we're afraid of rape tho" is the arguement a feminist will immediately spurt out when discussing dating culture from a male-sympathetic perspective. Its the endless rebuttal because, what do men have to complain about? Hurt feelings? Rape is obviously worse. Well, yes of course, but only if the rate at which both happe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/23 07:55 AM |
| 3 | Feminism is toxic for the leftHis feminist upbringing means he is respectful around women but they find that boring. I've spent many years dwelling on the horror you've outlined in this post, and this sentence touches upon what I find most disturbing about it. All this castigation, all this unfairness, its merely the result of casual boredom. Not even hate, but what I call "romantic affluenza". Women alive right now have the most sexual freedom in all of history, yet many (though not all) prefer chasing bad boys simply becau… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/23 07:44 AM |
| 1 | Feminism is toxic for the leftRed pill is right wing, just radical libertarianism (lower right quadrant) as opposed to auth right religious conservatism (upper right quadrant). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/23 07:16 AM |
| 1 | Feminism is toxic for the leftI don't think the person you're replying to even knows what Andrew Tate is like, lmao. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/23 07:13 AM |
| 7 | “Men Deserve To Be Lonely!” Responding To Backlash Over ‘The Male Loneliness Epidemic’You know where all this rage is coming from? They're femcels. Deep down they know most lonely men are good, dateable people because they're lonely too and could easily get with these men but its sunk cost fallacy for them. They spent so many years dating bad boys and don't want to admit they were wrong. They would rather either continue being mistreated or continue being lonely themselves. Basically its self hatred spiraling inward in a recursive loop and then being projected outward. Its an int… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/09/23 08:30 AM |
| 3 | Are Any Of These Real?Rape culture is real. Its just not perpetuated against the sex everyone says it is. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/09/23 08:21 AM |
| 65 | I don't understand how some people can think men being good people or even decent people is a rare or strange phenomenon."Nice guys are super rare" "But no actually I'm not going to appreciate men who are nice" "Well its because actually the nice ones are only doing it to get sex out of it" "So yeah, actually all men I guess" *gives evidence of men being nice* "Well its just super rare" The whole thing is a bizarre series of circular rationalizations that are necessary's for this worldview to make whatever passes for sense in their brains. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/09/23 08:20 AM |
| 1 | What are your guy's thoughts about some people who complain about rigid gender roles, while still upholding gender roles to an extent?I grew up around so many guys who seemed to take pride in being a caveman, being dirty, unsophisticated. Oftentimes it was framed as a self-deprecating joke, and I think there was an element of that to it, but it also seemed to be a form of justifying the unfairness of traditional gender roles. Like "hey, its ok women weren't able to vote, because they didn't have to be caveman sex". Except the most powerful people in history, like lords and such, were the opposite of dirty brutes anyway. Its co… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/23 02:21 AM |
| 4 | Why is the issue of men not approaching women, always have to be negative?You know, when you phrase it like that, its really obvious why there seems to be such a classist element to feminism. Remove the first two letters from reproduction. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/23 02:14 AM |
| 2 | Why is the issue of men not approaching women, always have to be negative?Oh I see. You could have worded that better, but don't worry about it--not a big deal. :) I mostly agree that it will get better. Though maybe not so fast. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/23 08:17 PM |
| 1 | What are your guy's thoughts about some people who complain about rigid gender roles, while still upholding gender roles to an extent?True but hopefully those women would eventually realize that the harems they are willingly participating in are forming a sexual version of the same patriarchy they complained about before, and get fed up with being treated that way. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/23 08:11 PM |
| 4 | What are your guy's thoughts about some people who complain about rigid gender roles, while still upholding gender roles to an extent?It would be kind of humiliating to be seen as an incapable, meek housewife who can't survive on her own and needs a man for everything. But on the other hand, at least she isn't told to bottle up her emotions, work herself to the bone for others in dangerous jobs, and die in war. I'd rather be a housewife in the 1940's than a dead or traumatized World War 2 soldier. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/23 08:06 PM |
| 2 | What are your guy's thoughts about some people who complain about rigid gender roles, while still upholding gender roles to an extent?Complaining about toxic masculinity while secretly pining for it is modern feminism in a nutshell. They have severe cognitive dissonance. They want the conveniences and easier way of life that comes with having a stoic, insensitive male protector/provider who takes care of them, but they also want to be seen as powerful and independent. Kind of like a teenager saying "I don't need you mom" even though she still does all the laundry, cooking, cleaning, etc. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/23 08:03 PM |
| 9 | Why is the issue of men not approaching women, always have to be negative?Yeah, stuff like "I don't care about women's feelings" is an easy target for cherry-picking by feminists. Ironically, I do care about women's feelings in the courtship process, but was told that I was a scumbag "nice guy" for it by women themselves. But I like wearing that fact as a badge of honor because it exposes a lot of the hypocrisy of modern feminism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/23 07:55 PM |
| 21 | Why is the issue of men not approaching women, always have to be negative?Another reason: the archetype of the seductress is explicitly feminine. Seducing is a feminine act. And quite a lot of power comes with that. Its bizarre to me that people think men actually have power in dating. In economic terms, women have the supply and men have the demand, not the other way around. Powerlessness doesn't seem like a very masculine position for men to be in to me. (To be clear I don't care about such things, but I'm talking from traditional terms). So its ridiculous to me tha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/23 07:52 PM |
| 18 | Why is the issue of men not approaching women, always have to be negative?Fear is a valid reason. Porn is just a coping mechanism for the average guy though, its the effect and not the cause. I don't think the lack of pressure to get married really plays much of a factor. That social restriction is as lax as it has ever been. Most men want relationships regardless of that lack of pressure, which is the cause of the loneliness epidemic. Also, what do you mean men aren't expected to conform to gender roles? Its better now than in the 1900's, but its still pretty bad. Gi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/23 07:41 PM |
| 1 | The "Male Dominated History" of Earth's civilizations.Pick literally any length of time going back farther than the last few hundred years, and I would rather be a woman than a man. I wouldn't have to get psychologically scarred, physically mutilated, die, or all of the above in war. I wouldn't have to go hunt wooly mammoths for long weeks in freezing weather with nothing more than a few pelts and sharpened sticks. Being "confined" to domestic work and child-rearing in a world of savage brutality is pretty much the best one can hope for. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/23 04:52 AM |
| 10 | Folk feminism or vulgar feminismWhen you lay it out like that, it really reveals how reactionary feminism actually is. Replace men with blacks, jews, etc. in most of that and it sounds exactly like something right wing fascists would say. One rarely ever sees hateful groups talk about how much they are oppressing the ones they hate. No, they always put the group they want to hate in an absurdly dominant position that doesn't actually exist. Pretending to be oppressed while inciting fear and harm against the people they claim a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/23 04:41 AM |
| 5 | It might seem like a minor thing but I hate how people make fun of men who don't last long enoughThis is exactly why mainstream porn has such exaggerated gender roles, where the female pornstars act ridiculously submissive and wholly dedicated to pleasing the man. The reality is almost always the exact opposite of that. Its a form of escapism through fetishism. I think most feminists would clap to a Ted talk titled "Why men need to give head daily" but would protest a Ted talk called "Why women need to give head daily". This goes back to the medieval period, even. Look up the bedroom trials… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/23 08:13 AM |
| 2 | I will die by this statement: We don't celebrate masculinity enough as a society, on the contrarary we're trying to marginalize and stigmatize it even moreAt least when it comes to women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/23 08:07 AM |
| 4 | I will die by this statement: We don't celebrate masculinity enough as a society, on the contrarary we're trying to marginalize and stigmatize it even moreI don't agree with this premise that traditional masculinity is marginalized. If anything, as a guy more on the feminine side, I can tell you its people like me that are marginalized. Feminists are always saying they want men to embrace more traditionally feminine aspects. Be more open about their emotions, etc. But their actions paint a different picture. They mostly want traditional men, but its almost more of a guilty pleasure, a cognitive dissonance. And like anything that gets suppressed, i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/23 08:06 AM |
| 1 | Do you think there is "good" radicalisation?I just think radicalizing might be the wrong way to phrase it. We don't want to go down a slippery slope of becoming the very thing we hate. Where we overreact to even the slightest perceived offense against men like feminists due for women. Point is, its not "radical" to be a men's advocate. Its actually extremely moderate/left of center. Its just legitimizing the hate we get to call us radical. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/23 07:50 AM |
| 6 | Shoe0nHead on The Male Loneliness EpidemicI'm not trying to invalidate your experiences, so maybe you are legitimately socially awkward or neurodivergent, but I used to think I was, too. I changed literally nothing about myself and then suddenly got a girlfriend one day. It just took meeting the right person, who isn't as plugged in to feminism and the toxic culture of modern dating. There is this tendency for people to exaggerate social awkwardness in men. For instance, maybe you're shy and say dumb things sometimes. So what? Doesn't t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/23 07:45 AM |
| 11 | Objectification and SexualizationLike she would have amounted to anything if she could not sell her sex appeal. "Trust me, I totally would have written 17 books and won a nobel prize, but the damn patriarchy was keeping me down and forcing me to objectify myself". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/08/23 10:45 PM |
| 5 | Objectification and SexualizationLike most feminist rhetoric, those articles don't even show any kind of logical connection between "sexy images" and "sex trafficking, rape, etc." I've been waiting for some kind of explanation on this for as long as I've been paying attention to this idiotic movement. I would love to hear some actual reasoning on this other than buzz word soup. Most men that watch porn will never rape anyone. This is obvious if you look at the percentage of men who rape and the percentage of men who watch porn.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/08/23 10:42 PM |
| 3 | "Violence against men is committed by other men". Ok, so what?The other thing too is that there is a great variance in levels of male strength. Not all men are burly linebackers. Some of us are small, skinny, etc. The strength difference between me and a woman and me and a bigger guy is probably not nearly the same. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/08/23 10:11 PM |
| 6 | "Violence against men is committed by other men". Ok, so what?The odds of me or you going outside and getting killed is much higher than a woman going outside and getting killed. The gender of the person doing it doesn't change that immutable fact. Feminists don't care about male on male crime for the same reasons that racists don't care about black on black crime. Its not happening to them, and (from their point of view) its just scum killing scum. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/08/23 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Do you think there is "good" radicalisation?Correct me if I'm wrong, but by radicalization do you just mean adopting grievance/identity politics language? Your comments seem to imply as much but those are not the same thing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/08/23 10:00 PM |
| 13 | Don't you think that the feminist concept of objectification is very problematic?If men just wanted to have sex with objects, we would stay at home and use sex toys. We're outside looking for real women because want someone with agency. Its ironic that feminists attack men for being virgins, but demonstrate what seems to be a lack of experience with sex themselves. I don't think they know as much about sex as they claim. Because if they did, they would know that real sex doesn't feel that much better than masturbation at a physical level and is mainly for the romantic connec… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/23 12:53 AM |
| 12 | Don't you think that the feminist concept of objectification is very problematic?in my experience, men tend to be more attentive to the moods and desires of the women they're attracted to than they are to basically anyone else. This is a golden nugget of wisdom that more people need to accept, period. nobody does these sorts of subconscious calculations and they all act on some instinct, idk. They aren't mutually exclusive. Most people do do these calculations, they just do them subconsciously. Yet somehow if you're the one who describes what many (though not all) women are … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/23 12:47 AM |
| 4 | Don't you think that the feminist concept of objectification is very problematic?I suppose in an abstract sense, a man who is attracted to women he sees on the street is a potential rapist...just like someone who gets angry at someone else is a potential murderer. In the latter case, everyone knows its technically possible, but doesn't worry about it without good reason. Its a meaningless distinction. But does this same logic apply to the former? No. What about women attracted to men they see on the street? Or women to other women? Or men to men? This logic is very heterosex… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/23 12:38 AM |
| 14 | Shoe0nHead on The Male Loneliness EpidemicI used to be very much in the same boat as you. What I think it comes down to is that guys who respect women are going to have less chances because they are going to worry about making women uncomfortable. But because the modern woman's "force field" is so high, it filters out everyone except the guys who don't give a shit about how women feel. (Which seems like some kind of ironic hell, now that I think about it...) You're not a loser for giving up after being told "no" over and over again. At … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/23 12:24 AM |
| 9 | Shoe0nHead on The Male Loneliness EpidemicThe funny thing is that if we did that, the members of that group would overlap greatly with members of groups like "incel", "virgin", "beta", etc. In other words, the same type of man that modern pop feminism claims it wants every man to be, are the ones they are not only not choosing to date but actively demonizing. And that is an idea that I think might actually break society at the seams if people realized it. Well, at some point, neo-gender roles will become so common that it will basically… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/23 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Reddit Will Side Against Men In ANY SituationThe logic is so stupid when you apply it to anything else. I actually wrote an essay on it in college but here is the basic idea: If drunk people can't consent to sex, they shouldn't be able to consent to driving a car. Which means if they run 15 people over while drunk, they should be forgiven because they didn't actually consent to that crime. I think what people mean when they say "drunk" is "so drunk the person is unconscious". Which is true. But the issue there is that they're unconscious, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/08/23 05:24 AM |
| 2 | What causes false rape accusations?Women who false accuse should be forced to suffer the same penalties the man would have suffered if he had been convicted. If the man dies as a result of suicide or mob justice from the damage done to his reputation, up that charge to manslaughter, at the very least. And we need sweeping reform in how these cases are handled, so the man isn't reported to the media until he is actually proven guilty (to avoid the reputation damage). I won't weigh in on how many do it maliciously or not, but I als… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/08/23 05:19 AM |
| 77 | Shoe0nHead on The Male Loneliness EpidemicI was glad that she showed the dating statistics of how men rate women and women rate men on ok cupid but I would have liked to see her dive a bit more deeply into that point and how messed up dating culture is because its a key piece of the puzzle. Most of the lonely guys are lonely to begin with not because they have genuine social issues and a sane, level-headed woman wouldn't be attracted to them. Or at least they don't start that way. They're lonely because there is this insane paradigm of … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/08/23 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Barbie movie reviewOk, you got me. That is a pretty good troll. Take an upvote. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/08/23 04:56 AM |
| 5 | The “male gaze”Pretty much the same as yours. Its heterosexist. It assumes that all men are straight and that no women might also be interested in women's bodies. Which you think would be a big deal for the type of people who use PC terms like this. Of course, one way people get around this is saying stuff like "well, when bi/lesbian women look at women's bodies, its less visceral, we don't look at them like pieces of meat". What the fuck does that even mean? It annoys the hell out of me. Just say you like tit… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/07/23 05:25 AM |
| 3 | The real reason men are lonely. I disagree with this sub about the solution for lonely men.My experience is that 90% of lonely guys are not lonely because they don't know how to properly date women. So I agree that "training them" won't work. They didn't do anything wrong. They just had the misfortune of being a non-traditional, nerdy, introverted, slightly feminine, etc. And so the pool of women that are interested in them vastly shrinks. Most women do practice hypergamy and have traditionalistic tastes in men (not because of "female nature" or anything like that, its just what socie… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/07/23 05:16 AM |
| 1 | I think movies would be better for men if they were a lot more diverseOh yeah, Reynolds. Not Gosling. I get those two mixed up easily. Thanks for pointing that out. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/23 07:37 AM |
| 2 | There is a discrepancy between what social media feminists think is "creepy" and what is actually creepy in reality.This, and also, you don't have to treat someone like shit just to hook up with them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/23 07:37 AM |
| 4 | I think movies would be better for men if they were a lot more diverseA recent example that comes to mind of this principle done well is the movie Free Guy. It has a love subplot where the female lead is romancing Ryan Reynolds' character inside a VR game. In the end though,she realizes her shy, nerdy best friend actually created Ryan Reynolds' AI and based the character's personality off himself. She gives up romancing him and the movie ends with her kissing the best friend instead. The nerdy best friend also has a bunch of chances to be a hero and plays a key ro… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/23 09:12 PM |
| 3 | There is a discrepancy between what social media feminists think is "creepy" and what is actually creepy in reality.Your girlfriend thinks muscles are creepy? No. She's not attracted to it, but even if she was, she thinks the stuff that guy said would be creepy, no matter what he looked like. No, the guy in the Tinder experiment was not toxic because Tinder is for hookups. I can't fathom that opinion. Women are not sex objects should not be treated that way, right? Just because some may tolerate or even like it does not make it okay. At least not in a liberal society where we claim to believe in equality. Als… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/23 09:00 PM |
| 2 | There is a discrepancy between what social media feminists think is "creepy" and what is actually creepy in reality.I don't think height automatically makes a man less creepy. If he does inappropriate things, he will be seen as creepy. Its not just height. A lot of other factors, too. Like being more muscular and athletic, more aggressive, etc. And there are plenty of women who think that stuff is creepy. My girlfriend for example. But from personal experience I can tell you she is a rare exception that proves the rule. Yes, it's based on being "high value", but not necessarily traditional gender roles. I alr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/23 05:32 PM |
| 0 | Patriarchy or competition-based society?Yes but my point is there are other factors as well. For example, rising housing costs because we're overpopulated. Reaganomics, etc. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/23 05:23 PM |
| 15 | There is a discrepancy between what social media feminists think is "creepy" and what is actually creepy in reality.I made that quote while thinking about the responses in this experiment: https://www.boredpanda.com/social-experiment-guy-created-fake-tinder-profile-hot-model-pictures-germanlifter/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic My point is that non-highly idealized versions of traditionally "alpha" men often get treated with more suspicion and less presumption of innocence, even though that is logically backward. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/23 12:35 AM |
| 3 | Barbie movie reviewI think its hilarious that there is a subplot where Ken becomes fascinated by the patriarchy he is told exists because it gives him a way to feel he has value. Its a direct metaphor how modern feminism actually radicalizes men and turns (some of) them into the very caricature of what they claim all men are in the first place. So basically Barbie explains how feminism creates its own problems. Tell men they are douchebags that control women, and some of them will think "well if I'm going to be ha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/23 11:55 PM |
| 1 | Should I be suspicious of Dr. Warren Farrell, given things he has written about rape?No. He is very liberal and about as much of a true egalitarian as you can get. False accusations are real. It doesn't matter how much it happens. Even if it only happened once or twice, it would still be a serious issue. It shouldn't happen, period. The case should be investigated. Innocent until proven guilty. This is the bedrock of any decent legal system. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/23 11:46 PM |
| -1 | Patriarchy or competition-based society?That seems like a very difficult position to defend. Are you saying inflation and rising costs of living is not a thing? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/23 11:11 PM |
| 1 | Is Jordan Peterson's assessment of modern feminism accurate?And the other thing too is that in order to find a dissenting view of feminism, the radical left, and identity politics, you have to look for right wing sources. There are moderate and left of center sources for those views like ours, certainly, but the right wing viewpoint is much easier for the average idiot who mindlessly plugs in to mainstream media to access. That is why people like JP are popular. People come for the anti-feminist stuff, and end up staying for the ring wing religious crap.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/23 11:07 PM |
| 3 | In most heterosexual relationships, men still earn more than their wives, yet there persists a argument regarding household labor division.Seems like the bigger problem to me is that if men are still the primary breadwinners, it shows that most women still want to practice hypergamy. This is not only at odds with women's rights, but it also puts men in an unfair position. If the average woman is in the workforce and makes as much as the average man, but they only want to date up, that means most men are not valid dating options for most women, will be rejected, and won't have a fair shot at being able to find a match. You'd think t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/23 11:01 PM |
| 2 | Female entitlementKarens are overwhelmingly conservative. Its a standard conservative maneuver to suddenly adopt the language of identity politics and oppression when it concerns their group. Just look at all the Christians saying Christianity is under attack in America. Or "the white cis hetero man is America's new devil". Yeah, not even close. Its not female entitlement. Its just being right wing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/23 10:31 PM |
| 2 | Is Jordan Peterson's assessment of modern feminism accurate?The way I view it, even an idiot can form a pretty coherent argument against radical ideologies like feminism. Doesn't mean I need to agree with their other views or like them as a person. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/23 10:28 PM |
| 35 | There is a discrepancy between what social media feminists think is "creepy" and what is actually creepy in reality.Not creepy: A 6'3 gym bro saying "why don't you come over to my house and sit on my d*ck, b*tch" Creepy: A 5'6 nerdy guy saying "Hello there, I noticed in your profile that you said you liked Horror movies. Got a favorite? Mine is Event Horizon." For most women, creepiness is totally based on how "high value" she considers the guy based on traditional gender role characteristics, which is a very flawed system. This is also why sexist "romance" movies like 50 Shades or bodice ripper novels are al… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/23 10:21 PM |
| 14 | Title IX: How Schools Hold Kangaroo Courts and Oppress the AccusedReminds me of a TJ Kirk video back in the day. Responding to Steve Shives saying that all rape accusations should be believed, he said "Steve Shives raped me". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/23 10:05 PM |
| 3 | I am tired of "All men know each other" trope.Its a subtle way of pushing the narrative. It implies that misogyny is so common, every man must know a bunch of guys that do it. Which is insidious, because it creates the idea that we must be slightly harboring this misogynist ideas ourselves, if we are apparently friends with those who do so more openly. When like you said, that is not true. Most men would be kicked out of social circles immediately for such views. But they want to erase this truth, because it paints men in a good light. I th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/23 04:39 AM |
| 6 | Patriarchy or competition-based society?The .01%, the truly insanely wealthy people that feminists are talking about when they reference patriarchy, don't actually do anything. They just get handed money just for existing because capitalism is a joke like that sometimes. Sure, there may be more male CEOs or billionaires or whatever, but its not like they are breaking their backs to really earn that money anyway. They are just really lucky and inheriting a position or getting where they are by exploiting workers and consumers. Even whe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/23 04:32 AM |
| 7 | Patriarchy or competition-based society?Upper class men > all women > all other men | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/23 03:55 AM |
| 1 | False Rape AccusationIt probably should be. Even if not, if I were that guy, I would sue her and claim damages. In any just world, he would win that case effortlessly. But now that I think about it, its not so much that slander is the issue but rather false accusations. Accusing someone of one of the most horrific crimes imaginable knowing they didn't do it is a type of slander, yes, but it really should be considered on a whole other level than regular slander. In fact, I think a case can be made that false accusat… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 24/07/23 03:52 AM |
| 2 | "women hold up half the sky" Or why I stopped dating cis women and identifying as a man.Aside from being nonbinary, this is very close to the experience I had. I tried dating cis straight women for my entire life until about 6 months ago when I decided to specifically look for cis bisexual women. Literally the first one I met, on my first attempt, became my current girlfriend after 28 years of being a dateless virgin. And it was such a shock to me too, I could barely believe she even existed and was a real person. I essentially whiplashed from all the problems you're describing to … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/23 07:58 AM |
| 1 | "Educated girls are less likely to be exposed to violence."True. But also, there is a limit to that. Example: you go to college and get a fancy degree but also massive student loans. Your degree affords you a job that allows you to pay the exorbitant amounts of rent required to live in a decent area, on top of having to pay off the student loans. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/04/23 04:05 PM |
| 2 | Anyone here read “Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism” by Kristen GhodseeI think you might be taking what I'm saying a little too literally and picking out specific statements rather trying to digest the spirit of my entire point. I'm not saying hypergamy would just magically disappear overnight, just that it would disappear quicker without capitalism. I don't know if that would be 10 years, 100 years, or 1,000 years. I don't have all the answers and neither do you. What I do know is that appealing to evolution can be a real fallacy. The past few hundred years brough… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/23 06:28 AM |
| 7 | "Educated girls are less likely to be exposed to violence."Yeah. I think it must be some angle like "she'll date more educated men if she is" or something. Which still frames men as the problem and is also a little bit classist/racist. And also doesn't address random non-partner violence. Also I love the implication that women need education just to protect themselves. Not because women are people that deserve education in and of themselves. As usual, the agenda trips over itself so hard that it actually bashes women too. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 20/04/23 11:25 PM |
| 13 | "Educated girls are less likely to be exposed to violence."I don't even see how being educated, regardless of gender, reduces your risk of being exposed to violence. Education doesn't create a magic forcefield that blocks punches. Sounds like they are grasping at straws. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 20/04/23 11:02 PM |
| 2 | Anyone here read “Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism” by Kristen GhodseeI think you might be mistaken with regard to the timescale involved in evolution. Yeah, no, I'm definitely not. I attended biology class like everyone else. Once again, you're talking at right angles to what I'm saying. All I said was "Yeah isn't kinda funny how our economic system reflects the same values we have". Its not supposed to be a deep point or anything and I never implied that I expect hypergamy to magically disappear. That kind of thing is constantly discussed on this sub and I've be… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/23 09:08 PM |
| 3 | A calm rant about the straight white dude experience in left politicsI think part of the problem is that these radical woke leftists (sorry, don't mean to insult your ex, it just seems like that is her attitude from the way you describe her) think of straight, white, cis men as a monolith. I.E. some idealized hyper successful "alpha male" CEO type. What they don't realize is there are many ways to be marginalized that don't have anything to do with being straight, white, and cis. "On paper" so to speak, it may seem like straight white cis guys should have it easy… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/23 06:13 PM |
| 3 | What are problems men face that women don’t face?Women have the option to wear pants or skirts. They can be an ambitious, competitive, career minded professional or a doting housewife. They can be a tough stoic badass or an emotional, vulnerable, sensitive, passionate lover, or any combination of those two things. Men get only one option for each of those sentences. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/23 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Physical v Mental Abuse and gendersTo counter argue — sucker punch is one thing, exerting continuous physical dominance is another. The latter requires greater physical prowess. That's why the answer is probably somewhere between both theses. Its definitely possible for women to fight back in various ways (especially in modern society where we have advanced weapons like guns that level the playing field) but its also true that its not a viable strategy for women in the long term. That being said, there are plenty of manipulative … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/23 05:19 PM |
| 6 | Anyone here read “Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism” by Kristen GhodseeI never said hypergamy comes from capitalism, I said that capitalism plays into/exploits those evolved traits and exacerbates them so that they continue to exist despite actually being maladaptive to modern society. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/23 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Anyone here read “Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism” by Kristen GhodseeThat was a pretty condescending reply for what I thought was a simple point. Simply that capitalism exaggerates and exacerbates those natural selection/evolutionary gender role adaptations you were talking about. Instead of "hunt boars so you can eat" its now "make a lots of money just so you can afford an ridiculously overpriced shithole apartment and be an obedient consumer who buys next product". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/23 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Physical v Mental Abuse and gendersI'm not sure I agree with this. Physical strength isn't everything. A petite 5'0 woman could sneak up behind Floyd Mayweather and hit him in the back of the head with a brick. I'm sure in cavemen societies, this is what physically weaker males did to stronger males when they got too out of control all the time. There is no reason women couldn't do it too. Ergo, no need for an elaborate compensation through mental/social/emotional manipulation. That may be a bit of an oversimplification, but I th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/23 07:18 AM |
| 7 | Anyone here read “Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism” by Kristen GhodseeNo but it sounds like a pretty interesting title. The basic premise seems logical enough to me and I've already thought much the same for a while now. Unregulated capitalism makes love/sex more of a transaction because it encourages women to look for a higher earning partner (the one that satisfies them the most economically) rather than the one that they are most deeply attracted to (that satisfies them the most emotionally). And if the man is expected to be this high earning provider, then nat… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/23 07:09 AM |
| 5 | I think feminism is a right wing ideology.I think the biggest fallacy about politics is that speaking the language of oppression isn't inherently left wing. People forget that Hitler used "this group is oppressing us" as logic to perpetuate oppression of his own against said group. Its actually a classic right wing play. Christians in America do this too. "We're being oppressed because we can't oppress others with our religion". Instead, people should look at whether that oppression is actually happening or not: that is a real indicator… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/23 05:52 AM |
| 2 | 'Woke AI'- bias against menI agree that woke is not really the same thing as radical left. In its truest sense, radical left would be communism. But people often use radical left as shorthand for the illiberal "left" that whines about micro-aggressions and manspreading. We may be talking in parallels lines here because I agree with what you said. Corporations are just like the actual wokeists themselves. They have gone so far with social justice they shoehorned and ended up on the right. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/23 06:54 PM |
| 1 | 'Woke AI'- bias against menYou're right actually, that might be a better explanation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/23 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Why does the man that moves out after a breakup or divorce?Combination of things. The assumption of the man being the one at fault for one. I absolutely agree the one at fault (if there is one, sometimes it is mutual) should be the one to move out but that is not always the man. Also, probably the idea of a woman being out on the street and/or having to live in a more low-income/more dangerous area violating the idea that women need providing/protection. Some mumbo jumbo about men being tougher and therefore safer on the street, even though more men are… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/23 08:37 PM |
| 2 | 'Woke AI'- bias against menOh I agree, most people are not woke. But its become the dominant narrative in this weird way where lots of people don't speak out against it because they're afraid of being cancelled. So its what big companies have to appeal to. Because the woke minority is so vocal and will complain about it the most on Twitter, which is where these big companies get their metrics from. They are not in tune with the actual average person. In short, its corporate culture, which is in bed with the radical left n… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/23 08:31 PM |
| 9 | False Rape AccusationNow she is serving a 25 year prison sentence for slander right? | /r/PussyPassDenied | 11/04/23 10:07 PM |
| -2 | 'Woke AI'- bias against menThat's the problem with these AI. They don't give real, fact-based answers. They prioritize "ethics" over fact. The only question is who's ethics? Well, these are big companies, investing huge amounts money into them, so they want an ROI as high as possible by appealing to the broadest demographic. That means being politically correct aka woke feminist. Once these AI are more common and cheaper to produce, there will probably be ones that don't have those biases because whoever is making them ca… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/23 10:02 PM |
| 9 | Exploitation of men and their wealthIts not just "seeking out the best fathers to their children". The kind of hypergamy OP is talking about here goes way beyond that. To the expectation that women are entitled to men's protecting/providing services (such as the divorce court example OP mentioned). I'm not saying women should date unemployed homeless drug addicts or something, but there surely comes a point where hypergamy is excessive, no? There are a lot of feminists who think that women should have perfect professional lives in… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/04/23 10:58 PM |
| 5 | Exploitation of men and their wealthExcept not all of us actually have these so called "instincts"... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/04/23 05:03 PM |
| 7 | Exploitation of men and their wealthYes, but its an evolutionary instinct that is maladapted for a modern society. Not everything that is "natural" is good just because it is natural. We are not cavemen struggling to barely survive anymore. Women are no longer reliant on men to hunt saber toothed cats or whatever to survive. If hypergamy is such a good thing, maybe you also believe women shouldn't have jobs as lawyers or doctors or CEOs for their own good, because they're misguided and not following their natural instincts and the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/04/23 05:02 PM |
| 7 | What are the examples of misandry, male disposability & common male tropes in fiction?One big example from anime/manga is the "guy trips and accidentally touches a girl's boobs or something, so she kicks in him in the balls so hard he dramatically explodes or deforms his head". Its cartoonish violence, but still, its practically a staple of the harem romance/comedy genre. Sometimes the girl will hit or at least verbally belittle a guy simply for not realizing she is into him, or even for simply not being into her because he chooses another girl. In fact there are probably other e… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/04/23 07:49 AM |
| 13 | Exploitation of men and their wealthI would love to see the look on a feminists face if you asked her to explain how she can be equal to men but also deserves to practice hypergamy. It'd be a total "feminist .exe has stopped working" moment. Not that they would ever let that happen since feminists generally don't argue in good faith. Hypergamy is un-egalitarian and misogynistic. It implies women are weak and need protector/providers. Of course, it harms men too, but try using that argument on a feminist. They won't care. If there … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/04/23 07:33 AM |
| 5 | Downplaying False Accusationsnot taking the time to weed out the false ones from the genuine instances What is ironic is that this point perfectly demonstrates how the male danger paranoia crowd actually harms women. When you call everything a wolf, the real one can hide easier because no one takes it seriously anymore... | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/04/23 07:29 AM |
| 5 | Downplaying False AccusationsI can relate to this because I was called "the next Elliot Roger" and such names by women (and I assume some men as well) who harassed me on reddit after I made some posts asking about what women are comfortable with in an approach/dating context. The ER comparison stuck with me for a long time and was definitely the worst thing anyone has ever said to me. I think I internalized it for a long time and created a belief in myself that women would never trust me or see me as good and everything I d… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/04/23 07:23 AM |
| 1 | How to unlearn the “sit down and shut up” conditioning of public school?I agree that not letting toddlers play is wrong and extreme. But for almost all of the other points you raised, maybe you grew up in a different part of the world than me? Like, I remember recess and lunch being a thing in the American school system (which admittedly isn't perfect by any means). I remember being allowed to ask questions and we had all kinds of hands-on activities. (Sometimes even to excess! I hated having to glue shit together and make some goofy art project to explain a concept… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/23 02:46 AM |
| 3 | How do I escape the “blackpill” if it has done irreversible damage to how I view the world?I think that one thing which often clouds discourse about blackpill is that some people take blackpill to mean "a hopeless mentality" and other people take blackpill to mean that plus the formal collection of philosophical "incel" TM* beliefs. The only reason I bring this up is because you seem to be using in the former sense, and a lot of people on the sub understand it to mean in the latter sense. Whether that is right or wrong isn't really material right now but the point is that other than a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/23 02:38 AM |
| 1 | How much is male experience valued?Sure. I'll warn you I'm not very active though haha. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/03/23 06:14 PM |
| 33 | Modern “Slimy misandry” is a fundamentally different beast to previous bigotry"Women are evil" "The fuck? You can't just say that. That's sexist." "Oh, well when I say all women, I just mean these specific women." Most would recognize the problem with the above when it comes to women, but not men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/23 10:12 PM |
| 6 | Mating Gap -it is men's fault obviouslyI really highly doubt that most men would not want to partner with a woman who earns more than them. This kind of thinking, that men are still stuck in the 1940's in terms of traditional gender roles, is just an extension of the radical left's typical idea that all men are misogynist/evil. In reality, the reason for many successful women not having any partners is more likely to be that they themselves still want to practice hypergamy even though they are already successful, meaning they are art… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/23 09:59 PM |
| 4 | How much is male experience valued?Agreed. The pursuer role when combined with the female dating market advantage can lead to this crazy viscous cycle of anxiety and degradation. Constantly being told to pursue then being rejected for it leads to doubling down on pursuing since that's the only cultural pathway to romantic success, which leads to more rejection, more feelings of worthlessness, more pursuing, and so on... I think this is one reason for the rise of red pill. With each iteration of the the cycle the person is more li… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/23 09:47 PM |
| 3 | How much is male experience valued?I'll copy my response to u/farcomposer: "The problem is that a lot of these people that say "I don't see color" are in fact racist and you can't engage them in a meaningful debate about racism because they will default to "I don't see color, you're the one seeing color because you keep mentioning race". On its own its a fairly innocuous statement, the issue comes from hypocrisy on how it is often used, and I am comparing feminists here to those people." Men being the pursuer is not misandrist. I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/23 09:40 PM |
| 2 | How much is male experience valued?I understand that. The problem is that a lot of these people that say "I don't see color" are in fact racist and you can't engage them in a meaningful debate about racism because they will default to "I don't see color, you're the one seeing color because you keep mentioning race". On its own its a fairly innocuous statement, the issue comes from hypocrisy on how it is often used, and I am comparing feminists here to those people. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/23 09:35 PM |
| 26 | How much is male experience valued?Its crazy to me how so many women will instantly go on the defensive like in these comments and pretend as though they are these holier than thou saints who don't care about looks and would date even the ugliest guy if he had a good personality traits. I'm sure such women exist but it must be very rare. We're all humans, we're all biased towards looks. On average, sure, maybe men are more visually inclined and women less, but most women are obviously still visually inclined to at least to some d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/03/23 06:30 AM |
| 9 | Gender dysphoria made me understand how important masculinity is to most menThe irony about the whole Harry Styles thing is that most of the women who'd be attracted to Harry Styles in a dress would still be attracted to him not in a dress. That is to say, its because he is a masculine and high-status man despite incidentally wearing a dress as a mere publicity stunt one time. Its very annoying to me, as a guy who likes crossdressing as an expression of his true self, how much people freak out of over him doing that. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he did, but where is all… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/03/23 07:28 AM |
| 9 | Does this sub believe that "traditional" masculinity and/or gender roles should be promoted/encouraged?I haven't really seen people on here advocating for traditional gender roles. Hell, I've openly talked on here about how I crossdress, can be classified as a femboy, etc. and I've had less (read: no one) attack me for it compared to subs like r/rolereversal which is a sub that (in theory) should celebrate such men. Not that that necessarily has anything to do with men's advocacy, just using it as an example of how this sub is actually a lot more open-minded than many modern feminist-influenced s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/03/23 07:06 AM |
| 24 | Looking for a good quality essay about the "gay friend" phenomenon, treating gays as a women's accessory sidekick and the general emphasis of embracing feminity by men as a way of their obeisance.I can't point you in the direction you're looking for, but your comments prompted me to make some reflections that are somewhat related to this. Similar to the gay best friend thing, there does seem to be a tendency, especially among radical feminist minded women, to tokenize all feminine men in general. Its just that a lot of people commonly assume feminine men to be gay (which is a problem in and of itself, of course). This comes with the understanding though that simple definitions like "nice… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/03/23 07:17 AM |
| 8 | «It's not enough that men's lives are ruined»Taking false accusations seriously doesn't reduce the credibility of actual victims. Credibility is determined based on evidence. If an actual victim has evidence, then she's still credible. If the courts align themselves to be totally evidence based in this matter, there will be no issue. For proof, look at literally any other crime. Do you ever see people saying that accused murderers should just be presumed guilty? That not guilty verdicts reduces the credibility of real murderers? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/03/23 03:17 AM |
| 2 | Modern Radical Woke Feminism (MRWF) is essentially just "nice guy syndrome" extrapolated to all of society.Really, I haven't seen this. But this is also the exact reason I avoid social media for the most part. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/03/23 03:13 AM |
| -3 | "Men should be drafted/conscripted because they are more capable fighter, not because of their sex" is the dumbest argumentI believe there should be a draft. If you're not willing to defend the country, then you don't deserve to live in it (note: this does not include wars fought for bullshit reasons like the US war in Iraq or Vietnam, only actual wars fought to literally defend your country). However, I would want it to be truly random who gets picked. That way if I got picked, I would be able to resign myself to fate, knowing it wasn't a selfish decision by someone, but truly and dispassionately random. In order t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/03/23 03:12 AM |
| 6 | Modern Radical Woke Feminism (MRWF) is essentially just "nice guy syndrome" extrapolated to all of society.Oh I wholly agree. I used that example because I asked a question like that once and it fucked me up mentally; I really internalized the responses for years. Its still entirely reasonable of course to worry about women being unjustifiably scared of you in today's cultural climate, but this is not a healthy way to learn that lesson. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/03/23 08:09 AM |
| 9 | Guardian article that sums up the left's problem discussing male loneliness.Funny how the author says "men don't need relationships, they can just have friends" but doesn't advocate for women canceling their relationships. Funny also how she doesn't question WHY some women are dating older men. Could it be because she's afraid of revealing the fact that its for hypergamy (older men generally being better providers)? She's ostensibly a feminist, so you'd think she'd want women to be strong and independent and all that good stuff--not rely on sugar daddies. Then again, ma… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/23 10:24 PM |
| 19 | Modern Radical Woke Feminism (MRWF) is essentially just "nice guy syndrome" extrapolated to all of society.Yeah the double standard is insane. Woman: "OMG all guys are monsters, why do they all hate women? This is why I can't get a date, where are the nice guys". Man: "I don't feel like I'm creepy to women or anything, but I'm 25 and have never had a girlfriend. Could I be doing something wrong?" Society: "Shut the fuck up man, you're probably going to be a serial killer LMAO" And then that guy winds up with a crippling complex that women will always be irrationally afraid of him and then none of the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/23 09:47 PM |
| 16 | Modern Radical Woke Feminism (MRWF) is essentially just "nice guy syndrome" extrapolated to all of society.It’s a sad (and kinda red pill) lesson to learn that women are almost always repulsed by the men they claim to want. If you replaced "women" with "feminist women" in that sentence, I would agree. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/23 06:25 AM |
| 11 | Modern Radical Woke Feminism (MRWF) is essentially just "nice guy syndrome" extrapolated to all of society.It's just a myth that women prefer assholes. I agree, and I never said otherwise. My whole point was that its not that these women (the ones I'm talking about that overrepresent nice guys) want assholes, they don't. Its that they've literally been told there are no nice guys to begin with, only assholes. Its a kind of deep-set cynicism about the male sex that is MRWF's bread and butter. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/23 06:23 AM |
| 7 | A lie that needs to die: "Men Won't Take Birth Control if They Had it."Modern Feminists: "Men are all just a bunch of misogynistic fuckbois that just want sex without commitment" Also Modern Feminists: "But also, these same fuckbois would definitely not use something that could empower them to have sex without consequence" Logic skill: cyclopean. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/23 12:28 AM |
| 2 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".Not even counting steroids, the kind of 6+ f.t. tall ripped "alpha males" that are so idealized are extremely unhealthy in and of themselves. Humans were not meant to be that tall, large, and muscular. According to a 6'4 guy I know, its living hell on your body. He had massive, constant growing pains growing up, horrible back and joint pain in his 30's, etc. Yeah, supermodels can take things too far in starving themselves, anorexia, etc. But that is not what most men want. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/23 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".I fail to see how having a man be unnecessarily stripped and demeaned in front of a crowd, somehow makes it more acceptable than if the same happened to a woman. I never said that. I just said your example of Thor in that movie isn't what I was talking about when I said "female gaze" and I explained why. Men have benevolent sexism towards women, and most men want women to be safe, protected, happy, whatever, and feel empathy for them. The reverse unfortunately does not appear to be true. Men car… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/23 12:17 AM |
| 3 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".Well, that's a different scenario. That's a man being unnecessarily stripped in front of a crowd and then jokes made to demean him. I'm talking about how feminists complain about women essentially just being sexy (consensually) in movies. I think there are very few men who would find it entertaining if Natalie Portman's character was demeaned in the same way. Otherwise, I agree with you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/23 08:32 AM |
| 4 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".Hm, I'm starting to feel like in this subreddit, people critique mostly liberal/casual use of certain feminist concepts. Well, that's because critiquing right wing thoughts are low hanging fruit. Everyone knows those ideas are dumb and its already been done to death. But feminists masquerade as the heroes of this story, so it needs more pointing out. Otherwise, it will go unnoticed. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/23 08:29 AM |
| 2 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".Yeah, its just absurd. These ideas are infiltrating the minds of the public discourse to such a degree that even young people who don't buy into the most toxic radfem stuff will still throw it around casually. Even if its just in a half-serious manner, its still concerning. There was one time a different bi woman I met was complaining about how "male gaze" a particular thing was because it showed sexy women. She should have known its not only men considering she herself was attracted to women...… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 05:57 PM |
| 2 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".I agree with that. You often hear stuff like "happy wife happy life", "yes dear", and all that. Yet those same (usually conservative) men will talk about the importance of being manly and dominant. Wouldn't being "subservient" to your wife fly in the face of all that? I think a lot of men don't think its very manly to sound like a complainer, or show your vulnerability by showing that all this woke shit can get to you. But I think its much more manly to stand up for yourself against it and not l… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 07:33 AM |
| 1 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".Oh so characters like Felix from Re:Zero? That's a good example, my complaint is that he isn't the main character or the focus of the story. But I suppose he does have a canonical female partner, so pretty close to what I'm looking for. The problem with a lot of characters like that is they are often used as comic relief, usually where the punchline is the main character questioning his sexuality for finding the femboy attractive. I've never met a "femboy" IRL, so I'm not sure what it really ent… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 07:27 AM |
| 4 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".You never see men complaining about it, either. If they did, they'd most likely get called homophobic and implied that they're insecure about their sexuality. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 07:09 AM |
| 4 | "men aren't men anymore"They only say this for men, never women. I've heard plenty of people say this for women too. My sexist grandfather is always ranting about how much he hates women in politics, and women voting, and then in same breath mentions "how women aren't women anymore". Suspicious, that... But yeah, I find it pretty hilarious whenever conservatives attack men for not wrestling bears and working in coal mines or whatever ridiculous self destructive near-slavery type shit it is they think we're supposed to … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 07:01 AM |
| 3 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".I don't know how old you are but in my age range (20's), its extremely common to hear people talk about this stuff in real life. It took finally meeting a bisexual woman in real life to talk to someone who didn't buy into all this crap. And even then it was only because she likes "looking at boobies" too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 06:50 AM |
| 6 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".Anime has a lot of bishounen, or men we would consider "twinky" in the US. That is more like an androgynous/glam rock kind of male, though. Which isn't really seen as all that feminine in Asian countries, because men have much greater range of acceptable gender presentation while still being allowed to be considered "masculine". I was talking more about full on crossdresser/femboy male characters. The kind that basically look reasonably female on the outside. Of course those exist too but they a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 06:47 AM |
| 8 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".Do they? I think they care more about male perpetrators, or else they wouldn't constantly be trying to frame the issue as men abusing women, and would acknowledge female abuse of females more. Maybe I'm missing something but I never see feminists acknowledge it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 06:39 AM |
| 3 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".Any in western games? I know there are plenty in Japanese games, especially JRPGs, but I've just never been able to get into those much. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 06:37 AM |
| 11 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".Yeah its really mystifying to me how often people will associate being decent, kind, caring and gentle with being a femboy or some similar concept. As an actual femboy/gnc male, I don't mind being seen that way, but I want to be appreciated for the right reasons, and I feel like most of these people don't actually want men with a feminine gender expression, they just think masculinity/men are bad and women/femininity are good. This could possibly be part of why so many feminists complain about w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 06:36 AM |
| 10 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".I disagree. It isn't objectifying or misogynistic for men to oggle female actresses asses in movies, just as it isn't objectifying and misandrist for women to oggle male bodies in magic mike. Trying to resolve the double standard by saying "lets attack female sexuality too" seems like a right wing conservative answer to me. Instead we should be trying to be sex positive and de-stigmatizing the male gaze. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 06:28 AM |
| 6 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good"."Male gaze", sounds more like a femcel term they'd use to shame women who appeal to Male sexuality. You are so right about that, and I know from personal experience with the other side. When I was younger I got sucked into the incel mindset a little bit. There was so much badmouthing in that community aimed at women who like men with a stereotypical Chad appearance, as well as men for embodying that appearance. Making them seem like degenerates for it, using coded language so there was plausible… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 06:20 AM |
| 5 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".I think its just about attacking men either way, with very little thought put into it about making sense or what men get out of it. These same feminists that are against "objectification from the male gaze" organize protests where they walk around nearly naked with degrading labels like "slut" written all over them. That right there is more hardcore than anything I've seen in media. Women covering up = opression Women not covering up = oppression | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/23 06:11 AM |
| 12 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".the male characters you're talking about are more of a male fantasy than a female one. Then you could say the same thing about female characters. Many women like feeling sexy and identify with traditionally feminine/beautiful women. Why? Because they are attracted to men, and that is what most straight men want. So same thing in reverse for men. Yeah, its a fantasy, but that fantasy only exists because it is what (most) women want. What you're saying is not actually all that different than what … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/02/23 06:45 PM |
| 7 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".Or if men were sexually abused by men, or women were sexually abused by women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/02/23 06:36 PM |
| 2 | I think that positive masculinity is just traditional masculinity without of the negatives of traditional masculinity, how it really isn't realistic for most men, and how some on the left use this to push bootstraps narrative for menI've never identified with the "loud, brash, brutish" definition of masculinity promoted by Hollywood and other corporations. But this is a false definition anyway, created by society's worship of the bad boy archetype, even while everyone (especially feminists) claiming they hate it. If you go back even farther, gentlemanly men who would be considered sensitive nerds and dweebs by modern standards (like poets and artists) were considered the gold standard of masculinity. So much so that they we… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/23 08:41 AM |
| 1 | Does misandry taint contemporary American dating culture?The irony to that too is that the rule of 6's is very patriarchal/traditional in a way. All of the rule of 6 items are geared to represent masculine dominance either physically or socially. "Six figures" is easily the most direct example of that (looking for a man far richer than her to support her). But also in the sense of height, 6 pack, and all that, because those are psychologically very masculine forms of expressing dominance and power, they are simply physical rather than financial/social… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/23 05:42 AM |
| 3 | A lot of "left wing" people revert to "bootstraps" mentality when it comes to men and dating. Has anybody else noticed this?Well, they do choose to be hateful (some of them). They don't choose to be sexless, which is what you probably meant to say. But yes, I agree. A user (whose name escapes me at the moment) on this sub said something something really poignant once. It went something like "The sexual revolution was supposed to communize sex, but instead it really just added an element of capitalism to it." I think that's totally true and it hearkens back to a deeper issue that a lot of radical woke people aren't ve… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/01/23 08:09 AM |
| 4 | Is pornography degrading to women? Or does society just have a problem being open about male sexuality?The only person porn could degrade is the person in it, and only then if it was non-consensual, which is clearly not the case in the ordinary porn most men watch as you pointed out. Its kind of funny how they focused on cum shots when much more extreme forms of porn exist, like BDSM. Even then, the degradation would just be roleplay, not real. You'd be an idiot to look at something like that and think "yes, that's how most women like to be treated for real, its not just roleplay". If someone did… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/01/23 07:59 AM |
| 4 | Are these two sides of the same coin?In other words, they're both selling you a religion. Damnation as a status quo, with a way to escape the system (heaven) all while cultivating feeling of superiority over everyone else (sinners) for being one of the "saved". Its funny that feminism split off in a great schism from early internet atheism, yet they fail to recognize the same psychological tricks in their own narrative. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/01/23 07:36 AM |
| 31 | Does misandry taint contemporary American dating culture?If its misogyny for men to think that the only thing a woman can offer is her body (aka dating based purely on looks), then it must stand to reason that dating men on similarly superficial grounds is misandry. There is a ton of discussion in our culture about how women should be loved for intelligence, personality, etc. And all of that is absolutely true, but when it comes to shy, nerdy guys, everyone is mysteriously silent. Or in the worst case scenario, actively attacks anyone who dares sugges… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/01/23 07:30 AM |
| 5 | Is protecting women heroism or the bare minimum?The irony is that women saying these kinds of things believe they're entitled to male protection in the same way they accuse the men that protect them of feeling entitled to their bodies. Its very telling that you mentioned being a hero and they immediately assumed you were using "heroism" as some kind of code word for being rewarded with sex. Because in their mind the only reason a man could do something heroic would be if he expected sex as a result. I know it gets mentioned to death on this s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/01/23 08:41 AM |
| 3 | Double messages for men from AOCAOC is being absurd here. I don't know what kind of dimension she lives in, but tons of social experiments that are easily looked up via Youtube will prove her wrong. The vast majority of men already will intervene if a woman is perceived to be in danger, even to the point of excessive overprotectiveness. For example, people not giving a shit if a woman beats a guy but then suddenly coming to the woman's defense if the guy she's beating dares to even just raise his voice back at her. So not only… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/23 10:43 PM |
| 3 | Is the whole redpill "female imperative" thing true?In short, they're right in saying that the biological impulse is there, but they're wrong in saying its a deterministic certainty. Saying females will always seek out the best provider just because the evolutionary impulse is there is like saying men will always rape just because the impulse for sex is there. The correct response to red pill is the same as the correct response to radfems saying all men are rapists. That is, that people of both genders are individuals with free will, not a monoli… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/23 10:36 PM |
| 0 | Virgin shaming can be just as harmful, if not more, than slut shaming.Womanizers aren't bad because they all woman shame. They're bad because womanizing is bad. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/01/23 01:55 AM |
| 3 | Virgin shaming can be just as harmful, if not more, than slut shaming.Well yes of course. That's disgusting behavior. Hence why I'm so upset those guys are lent false credibility by society/virgin shaming. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/01/23 09:51 AM |
| 22 | Virgin shaming can be just as harmful, if not more, than slut shaming.In modern times, virgin shaming is definitely more harmful. And prolific, and generally accepted... Maybe feminists would have a point if this was the Victorian Era. It could actually be pretty brutal for women back then to be accused of being a harlot or whatnot. But that was so long ago though. Not that its exactly unusual for feminists to appeal to ancient injustices that have nothing to do with modern society. I think your last point is particularly profound. When society debases virgin men … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/23 09:38 AM |
| 1 | The power of soft powerYes but if it wasn't maintained, that perception would die out, eventually. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/01/23 09:02 AM |
| 1 | I believe reddit HATES men. My experience:I have this other account where I interact with r/rolereversal...what a shitshow. Its basically a microcosm of everything you just mentioned. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/01/23 08:59 AM |
| 1 | The power of soft powerWomen do absolutely have control over it, though. Haven't you ever seen a girl bat her eyes and say something like "you wouldn't hit a girl, would you?" Yeah, women didn't invent our revolutionary instincts, but they sure as hell can play into them and perpetuate them. Assuming they don't realize they can do that would be to assume women aren't very intelligent, I would think. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/01/23 08:45 AM |
| 2 | "Especially to a female."Oh yeah, totally. Strength isn't the real issue here. Its that people who claim to be pro-women don't want to hold women to the same standards of responsibility that they hold men to...as if they believe women aren't mature enough to handle it, or something. I dunno. Seems pretty misogynist to me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/01/23 08:42 AM |
| 1 | People use "incel" as an insult on social media to feel better about themselves.I know you edited the original post, so I'm willing to believe you truly don't believe that and regretted your wording. No big deal, happens to the best of us. But that being the case, I am very curious what you DID mean, then. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/01/23 08:39 AM |
| 2 | People use "incel" as an insult on social media to feel better about themselves.It doesn't have anything to do with optimism or pessimism. I'm just looking at facts. There are more men complaining of being lonely than ever before. Do they all deserve it, or is there something else going on here? Do you think its just a coincidence modern radical feminism is so popular and tells everyone "men are trash", and we're also seeing these really high rates? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/01/23 08:36 AM |
| 2 | Radical Feminist Catharine A MacKinnon is Sexist! She infantilizes women! She wants to get rid of consent legally!So many people throughout history who committed evil acts did so while claiming to be morally just. Hiter didn't just come out and say he hated jews, it was couched in German Nationalism (no, we're doing this to save our country!). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/01/23 08:31 AM |
| 1 | The power of soft powerI agree with you on that, but I don't see how it contradicts what I said. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/01/23 08:29 AM |
| 1 | Radical Feminist Catharine A MacKinnon is Sexist! She infantilizes women! She wants to get rid of consent legally!That actually isn't that crazy of a theory. MacKinnon was previously engaged to a man, a "repentant womanizer" who supposedly bedded (or by her definition "raped") 1,000 women. Doesn't surprise me. Women like her are the inverse of a redpiller who complains all women are "trashy whores"...when those are the only ones he's looking for in the first place. "We do our best. He's not not a man and I'm not not a woman. ROFLMAO. That's the most blatantly non-committal, dodgy answer I've ever seen. She … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/01/23 08:27 AM |
| 5 | Radical Feminist Catharine A MacKinnon is Sexist! She infantilizes women! She wants to get rid of consent legally!Why does it always seem that a lot of the "All men are terrible" people are just projecting their own experience of being attracted to terrible people. They have severe cognitive dissonance resulting from the fact that they are deeply and irrevocably attracted to aggressive, domineering, (by their language, "toxic masculinity") men, but they hate that about themselves, because they think it makes no sense: it doesn't. If they really wanted a nice, sweet guy, they would go find one, and then writ… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/01/23 08:20 AM |
| 7 | People use "incel" as an insult on social media to feel better about themselves.Well, I'm trying to get to the root of what he actually believes, but most of his answers are vague deflections that don't actually address my response. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 01:54 AM |
| 4 | People use "incel" as an insult on social media to feel better about themselves.Well yeah, I get that self-improvement is different for each person. That isn't what I asked, though. I asked why self-improvement is needed in the first place, if it isn't neccessarily their fault. I'm sure there are some incels that need to self-improve, but that hardly describes all of them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 01:44 AM |
| 7 | People use "incel" as an insult on social media to feel better about themselves.I'm not attacking him personally, though. I'm attacking his ideas and pointing out how they're contradictory (at least from what I understand he's saying, which I admit could be wrong). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 01:39 AM |
| 4 | People use "incel" as an insult on social media to feel better about themselves.Okay, then what's this self-improvement nonsense? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 01:37 AM |
| 2 | The soft eugenics of male-hatredif you’re not Reproductively useful, then you have no value Ironically, radfems complain about that mentality when applied to women, but apparently when it comes to men, its ok. Yet another hypocrisy! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 01:37 AM |
| 3 | "Especially to a female."If you had pushed her on it she probably would have said something about women being physically weaker than men on average. Which is true of course, but all that means is that people perceive men as "being able to take it". Its actually more likely for a male employee to get hit by the angry customer in that scenario, even though he's more likely to be closer to the aggressor in strength. Essentially, hitting a woman is a more egregious crime, which means a man is actually MORE vulnerable in tha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 01:33 AM |
| 15 | The power of soft powerThis is why so many men joke about "happy wife happy life" and being whipped, how their wife controls everything, etc. Its a coping mechanism. Most women usually have a dominant position in the private/domestic side of relationships in the traditional dynamic. Which is probably why modern radical feminism is ironically trying to slide back into traditional values, while picking and choosing only the aspects of female liberation they do like without the equal responsibilities. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 01:26 AM |
| 16 | The power of soft powerSoft power is a better kind of power, too. And modern radical feminism is showing us exactly why. Since you aren't outwardly powerful and perceived as such, you can play the victim and scapegoat those with hard power to get even more soft power. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 01:24 AM |
| 1 | People use "incel" as an insult on social media to feel better about themselves.That doesn't have anything to do with what I just said. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 01:21 AM |
| 1 | People use "incel" as an insult on social media to feel better about themselves.Why shouldn't they use incel as an insult though? If what you're saying is true, and its a self-imposed condition, then its totally their fault right? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 01:20 AM |
| 44 | Radical Feminist Catharine A MacKinnon is Sexist! She infantilizes women! She wants to get rid of consent legally!I genuinely feel sorry for women like you right now, who are awake to all the faults of modern radical feminism. The big political movement that claims to represent you and is widely respected by all, yet it actually perpetuates more sexist views and backwards regression against women than anything else due to that very same blind popularity. At least when redpillers and tradcons say misogynist shit, people ridicule it. But when radfems do it, everyone eats it right up. I used to laugh at people… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 01:15 AM |
| 8 | People use "incel" as an insult on social media to feel better about themselves.I think with the rising tide of lonely, unattached men, that statement is demonstrably not true. There are very strict and misandrist standards burdening men. Frankly, I'm shocked to hear you say this given what you wrote in the OP. The way you sound right now, its almost like you're saying people are right to use incel as an insult. That a guy really must be a loser if he's single/virgin. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 01:06 AM |
| 7 | People use "incel" as an insult on social media to feel better about themselves.If a woman is attracted to a man, she will sleep with him regardless of his political views, race, looks, religion, or his character. Saying "If a woman is attracted to a man, she will sleep with him regardless of his political views, race, looks, religion, or his character" is a pretty big generalization. You make it sound like women are deterministic robots that can't help but instantly open their legs for any attractive guy that stumbles along, even if he's a boorish brute. Certainly that doe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 01:03 AM |
| 13 | People use "incel" as an insult on social media to feel better about themselves.Oh, I'm not saying that stuff doesn't happen at all. On the contrary, I'm very aware of it and its a sad reality. I'm just saying OP shouldn't go around implying awalt. That's sexist red pill drivel. Imagine how a woman who does want a sweet and caring guy would feel reading something like this? Maybe she would have met OP, and liked him, but then she heard that. She would feel unseen and unappreciated. Essentially, apply the same logic as feminists saying #yesallmen in reverse. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 12:59 AM |
| 3 | People use "incel" as an insult on social media to feel better about themselves."non attractive" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 12:56 AM |
| 28 | People use "incel" as an insult on social media to feel better about themselves.Attraction between men and women is biological. If a woman is attracted to a man, she will sleep with him regardless of his political views, race, looks, religion, or his character. Not all women are like that. I understand your frustration but talking that way will not help anything except alienating the women who might otherwise agree with you and don't act that way. Imagine how you'd feel if a woman described all men as cold, brutish boors. Even if you shared her frustration with the men who … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/12/22 09:33 PM |
| 2 | Men receive contradicting messages about dating from societyI can't even imagine thinking something as simple as a cameras lens point of view is inherently male/masculine. That's like saying breathing is masculine or something...its just a fucking camera lens. Why is it inherently male? They are the ones perpetuating misogyny at this point by labelling totally neutral things as male. Saying "the camera lens is inherently white" sounds like something a racist nazi would say, no black person would ever say/believe that for obvious reasons...but when women … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/12/22 12:41 AM |
| 6 | What's missing from the incel conversation?In my experience, it makes perfect sense why incels would be more likely to be liberal than conservative. The whole reason why a lot of people identify as incel, including myself (in the past) is because they feel like they are being held up to a standard of hyper-traditional masculinity they can't live up to and therefore will never get a date. Like, if you look at incels, they are not typically jocks, bodybuilders, etc. Most are shy and "sensitive" types, intellectuals, gamers, etc. There are … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/12/22 12:02 AM |
| 10 | Those who have contempt for “toxic masculinity” have a FAR greater contempt for femininityWell said. It always amazes me that people complain about toxic masculinity but then turn around and laud female characters for acting exactly the same way. Its bad enough that they assume this is what all men are like, but on top of that, if they hate men so much, why do they want women to act like them (or what they claim men are like at any rate)? This goes beyond just female characters too. These same people are silently going to see movies like 50 Shades and reading Harlequin romance novels… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/12/22 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Struggling to find any good argument against mandatory paternity testingI think you misunderstood my comment, I wasn't saying at all that it was bad for a man and child to confirm their lineage. I was pointing out the double standard of how people act like its misogynistic to want to confirm the woman isn't pregnancy frauding, but how these same people would support it fully if there was a way to test if men were dangerous. So yes, I was actually supporting paternity testing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/12/22 11:11 PM |
| 2 | The irony of them saying this when male rape by women is legal in most placesOf course a human can provide more than a sex bot. Genuine love, connection, etc. not just sex. But men are inventing sex bots as replacements for women. Why do that if they don't only want sex and see women as sex objects? Because they feel they can't/won't ever get real love OR sex anyway. We can't fix the love part scientifically, but might as well be able to at least have sex right? In other words, if all women can offer is sex, then they aren't doing any better than a robot. My point was th… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 29/11/22 06:39 PM |
| 10 | Another unhinged feminist subreddit on here is currently implying that this is misogyny.Not only that, but height has no bearing on the other hallmarks of attractiveness. A guy could be short and still ripped like a greek god, or have a symmetrical face, clean skin, strong jawline, etc. Or even have lots of money as well. If dating sites are going to ask for height on your profile, they should also ask for weight. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 22/11/22 06:41 PM |
| 5 | Most left-wingers and progressives have a huge problem with hypocrisy in their beliefs and the way they talk about gender issues is a prime example of that.The left is no longer liberal. They've become authoritarian, exactly like conservative authoritarians, just a different flavor of it. And science denial is a perfect tool of authoritarianism. The left is just better at selectively adopting some aspects of good science, just enough to make them credible to people who aren't paying attention, so they can point at the religious right and say "look they're the science deniers, they think Covid doesn't exist" to make themselves look slightly better. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/22 12:40 AM |
| 3 | Is it better to reject the labels, or reclaim them?In my opinion, the only correct way to answer "what is a man" is with "whatever the fuck he wants to be." Its literally just a question asked at the intersection of biology and identity. I'm a man, but I identify with almost no aspects of traditional masculinity. I'm a man, but I'm also a femboy who likes wearing dresses and looking cute. I'm not competitive or aggressive or macho at all, etc. I wouldn't want to be described as "manly", but I would be offended, though, at being called "not a man… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/11/22 08:06 AM |
| 1 | A recent experience with the gender empathy gap and its potential for unseen impactNo clue where you got that impression. I just described the negative consequences that can happen, that comes directly from experience. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/11/22 03:29 AM |
| 13 | Being perceived as a threat (especially by women)I know it sounds insane, but that was exactly it. Many people even commented things like "well, you must be some socially awkward caveman if you don't already know. You should already be able to figure this out, so we aren't going to tell you." I guess in their head they were thinking of really simple things not to do, like grabbing women's asses or something. Which of course, I already wasn't doing. The question was much more sophisticated than that. I asked something more along the lines of "w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/22 11:01 PM |
| 7 | Being perceived as a threat (especially by women)Logically, shouldn’t younger women have more positive view of men than older women? You would think so. I mean, I'm not saying past generations were as universally sexist as modern feminism claims, but certainly, things have been getting progressively better and better for women with each passing generation. You would think younger women would recognize they have way more rights and agency than their great-grandmothers did, and have appreciation not only for the men that created such an equal wo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/22 10:51 PM |
| 15 | On the failed feminist colonisation of traditionally “male” geek spacesIt makes perfect sense when you think about the feminist perspective. Feminism views men as having all of this effortlessly obtained, undeserved power. They are largely blind to the fact that the Hobbits are not studs and Luke had to train to earn his power because they are also blind to the struggles of the everyman in real life. They see well off middle class businessmen but don't think of all the sacrifices those businessmen had to make to get there. This is all but an extension of the core l… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/22 07:06 AM |
| 26 | Being perceived as a threat (especially by women)I got called "the next Elliot Roger" because I dared to ask for dating advice on a dating advice sub regarding what women do/don't find comfortable and acceptable. Because you know how misogynist murderers like Elliot Roger think: they care about how women feel and want to comply with that. Apparently, even trying to be considerate towards women and learning more about their boundaries is seen as a sign of ill intent. You're "the wolf asking the sheep how to make a sheep costume", so to speak. E… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/22 06:41 AM |
| 3 | If we all agree, then where is the action for our boys?I really hate the term "alpha" too because its really unscientific as well and doesn't exist in nature aside from a fabricated persona that society glorifies and goes along with. But I think its fine to say as long as we use air quotes, because I know what you mean by it. People really only see the "alpha"/macho guys when they complain about men because those are the ones they care about (for the most part). Which is indicative of the fact that despite people claiming to hate toxic masculinity, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/11/22 11:43 PM |
| 2 | If we all agree, then where is the action for our boys?Its a good thing the conscription dropped. Its not like anyone should wish for conscription to come back, just to increase male college enrollment numbers again. But I still wonder why they don't still go, anyway. Yeah, its very much "be yourself"...as long as "yourself" is a certain thing. Nerdy introverted hobbies for shy males like games and books are not cool if a guy is doing them. But if a woman is playing video games she's praised for rebelling against social norms. Its like society simul… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/11/22 06:16 PM |
| 3 | A recent experience with the gender empathy gap and its potential for unseen impactAs shitty as it sounds to say, my number one fear is that if someone (especially a woman) DID try to get me to open up, I would assume they're either A) not being serious and its a kind of test or B) being genuine, but might change their mind and get really weirded out if I did respond. Its something that is going to take time. Society needs to build trust with us. It might not be the first time, or the fifth time, etc. but just expecting it to happen the first time is unrealistic, because of th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/11/22 06:03 PM |
| 8 | A recent experience with the gender empathy gap and its potential for unseen impactYou know, reading this provoked an interesting question for me. As I was imagining myself in your shoes, it really just struck me that its not so much the lack of empathy that bothers me, its more the judgement for wanting empathy. Like, the genuine thing that struck me as so terrible about your experience was the dirty looks and smirks you described people showing you. I thought about that and realized that's way worse than simply not having people walk up to me to ask me if I'm okay the way yo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/11/22 12:45 AM |
| 3 | If we all agree, then where is the action for our boys?I don't understand your point about why men in your country don't go to college if the conscription is suspended for those who do? Or are you saying they can still get conscripted anyway? Either way, getting conscripted or not, why wouldn't there still be a motivation to go if its free? Maybe there's something I'm missing here. Other than that, I see there are many similarities with the US. The discourse is very much "well, if women don't want the guys, obviously its because they're trash". The … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/11/22 12:35 AM |
| 10 | If we all agree, then where is the action for our boys?Depending on what their career goals are, yes. Want to be an office worker? Instead of working for a huge company that demands college degrees so they can turn you into a wage slave, become a receptionist at a small family run business. They probably wont care about a degree, and may actually look for people who don't have degrees, since people with degrees need higher pay to cover their college debt. Want to be a doctor, scientist, radiology technician? Yeah sure, go get that degree. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/22 11:34 PM |
| 4 | If we all agree, then where is the action for our boys?Then in those countries it makes sense. Your tax dollars are paying for it, so why not use it? (By the way, I love that idea, and it would be my ideal choice). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/22 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Richard Reeves: Of Boys and Men | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)Sure, no problem. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/22 11:28 PM |
| 3 | Preferences of Mobile Dating App Users: A Semantic Network Analysis ApproachThe other interesting thing is that the only reason why men DON'T value job, education level, etc. more is because we literally don't have the privilege of being so picky. Most of us will be incredibly lucky to "looks match" and get a decent looking girl. (I.E. not getting a fat and ugly partner if I'm not fat and ugly myself). Of course I want an intelligent partner and not a stepford wife, but I'm willing to at least meet them and see in person if they are intelligent or not. I can't afford to… | /r/Male_Studies | 10/11/22 10:45 PM |
| 1 | If we all agree, then where is the action for our boys?Leftists are not liberal. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/22 10:38 PM |
| 7 | If we all agree, then where is the action for our boys?Question: is it really a big deal if men are not graduating college as much? Maybe they aren't going to college as much not because they lack ability, but because colleges are becoming increasingly hostile to them due to radical feminist ideology? And also because more men go into trade schools for plumbing, electricity, etc.? College degrees are not what they used to be. In my experience, tuition is so expensive it is largely a scam. I got away with it because I had scholarships and financial a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/22 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Richard Reeves: Of Boys and Men | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)You're oversimplifying the issue. Your position seems to be "the science is right, even if it says obviously absurd things". Simple question: would you believe a science paper if it said the sky is lime green with orange polka dots? Its not "science denial" to think critically and question science if it seems to contradict our direct experiences. In fact, this kind of critical thinking is what makes science stronger and understand it better. Science thrives on skepticism and questioning. I even … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/22 09:43 PM |
| 31 | Top AskFeminists post: "zero pity for men for not having sex"Yeah, every day on my way to work, I like to casually stroll into Congress and pass a few laws restricting women's freedom. Its practically my favorite hobby. /s All these feminists talking about how sex isn't a big deal...why don't you put incels in their place by demonstrating the truth of your claims? Swear off sex completely, and live the life of a female monk. Go on, I'm waiting. How can people be this shortsighted to not realize that by talking this way, they are ostracizing loads of men w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/22 05:48 AM |
| 0 | Richard Reeves: Of Boys and Men | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)This sub is heading towards authoritarianism, and fast. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/22 05:36 AM |
| 1 | Richard Reeves: Of Boys and Men | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)No, I don't say that because its actually true that women are physically weaker than men on average. It doesn't contradict what I know through my daily lived experiences. You can say that they weren't claiming what I said they were claiming, but it did sound an awful lot like a dogwhistle for that. And being backed up by scientific data means nothing to me if what the data is saying is absurd. If you showed me hundreds of scientific papers saying the sky is lime green with ornage polka dots, I s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/22 07:20 PM |
| 0 | Richard Reeves: Of Boys and Men | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)They may have quoted someone else's paper, but they weren't bringing it up to debunk it, and it was pretty obvious they agreed with it and were using it to support their points. Of course they did not openly say that, but they danced around the point by saying "soft skills" and whatnot. "Teach boys better social skills" sounds like its based on a lot of the same logic as "teach men not to rape". Men/boys are deficient and need extra help to be at the same level as girls? Am I really the only one… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/22 08:12 AM |
| 1 | Is The Male Gaze and Gynocentrism two sides of the same coin?I don't think thats an autistic exclusive trait. I'm not autistic and I care very much about genuineness. I absolutely despise having to pretend to be something I'm not as well and I can't imagine how that would even work out to be a good relationship in the future if its build on lies. I want to be loved for who I am and be free to be myself. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/22 02:30 AM |
| 1 | Richard Reeves: Of Boys and Men | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)I skipped to 11:30 in the Chris Williamson video and what he says there is INSANE. Men aged 24-25 are only as mature as 10-11 girls? Are you serious? Has he ever met a 10-11 year old girl? They are NOT as mature as adult men. I happen to live a across the street from a family that has girls. They're very sweet but its immediately obvious the gap in maturity when they talk to adults. I'm 27 now but just a couple of years ago I would have been 25, and one of those girls (aged 14) briefly joined my… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/22 12:53 AM |
| 1 | Is The Male Gaze and Gynocentrism two sides of the same coin?I would feel pretty pathetic too. I would feel like a piece of shit misogynist dudebro. But you have to understand, that's just because we're good men with empathy. Guys that do this kind of shit and get away with don't have that empathy, so they don't feel pathetic about it. You have to remember that mainstream dating culture doesn't appeal to guys like us. From our perspective, everything looks upside-down. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/22 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Is The Male Gaze and Gynocentrism two sides of the same coin?That line I used was one I remembered from this social experiment. As you can see, the guy didn't appear needy at all--or if the women did think he was needy, they didn't care. In fact he was even able to get some of them who were initially more skeptical to give in just by threatening to withdraw his interest. So if anything, they are the ones who appeared needy. Especially by responding positively to someone who treated you like shit to begin with. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/22 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Richard Reeves: Of Boys and Men | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)Yeah, the playing field line and the recess line bothered me a bit too. It comes off as dismissive. Reeves pretends as though he's the one protesting misandry and unjust treatment of boys, but then he sets lower standards for boys by saying they should just go have more recess, like they can't be expected to mentally handle as much class time as girls. Maybe that's not what he meant, but that's what it sounded like he meant. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume his position … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/22 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Richard Reeves: Of Boys and Men | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)Question by OP: Is there anything that higher education could do to fix the gender gap? I'm going to borrow heavily from Warren Farrell here and say that we should teach young girls/society to value stage 2 men more than stage 1 men, just like how we teach boys to value stage 2 women more than stage 1 women. Once the definition of the "badass alpha male" changes from the quarterback of the football team to the most articulate boy with the best grades, once "nerds" stops being an insult and becom… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/22 10:23 PM |
| 4 | Perhaps the only man talking about sex-positivity on YouTube from a heterosexual male perspectiveI just watched this video and the feeling I constantly got was like he on the verge of making that brilliant revelation, but never went quite far enough. The result is a very watered down milque-toast version of real MRA talking points. I get the sense he is trying to seem more palatable to the feminist overlords. For example, he doesn't really come out and say as plainly as you just did the real reason why there aren't men talking about sex. He just kind of dances around it for the whole video … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/22 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Is The Male Gaze and Gynocentrism two sides of the same coin?Its not really degrading themselves though, its degrading women by treating them like sex objects. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/22 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Is The Male Gaze and Gynocentrism two sides of the same coin?Somehow the "male gaze" of "alpha studs" never gets called out or questioned, just the rest of us losers who want to indulge in a little fantasy. Me watching movies were consenting female actors were compensated for showing off their bodies is oppressive but somehow 10/10 chads can flirt with women using sexist lines like "Why don't you sit on my face so I can eat my way to your heart" is perfectly fine. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/22 07:42 PM |
| 12 | Is The Male Gaze and Gynocentrism two sides of the same coin?Ah yes, the male gaze, what a horrible concept: showing women as attractive and desirable. Because obviously nobody wants to feel attractive and desirable. In fact, its horrible. I'd rather feel ignored, useless, ugly, and undesired. Just like how in the medieval age starving peasants didn't actually want any food, and in fact the nobility were oppressed by being forced to have plenty of it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/22 07:37 PM |
| 9 | People who claim that false accusations (of rape) are insignificant are so hypocritical and inconsistentPeople easily see racism, but they don't so easily see sexism misandry. Feminism literally scares younger men away from women by showing us that any woman could accuse us at any moment and everyone will believe her and we'll be screwed. I'm not saying extreme gynophobia is rational but you can see why there would be a hesitance. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/11/22 12:07 AM |
| 7 | this is wild.Yeah, its her right to have sex with whoever she chooses. But its also his right to walk away if she's unfaithful. The right answer is "divorce but specifically tell the judge you want to get absolutely nothing from him, no alimony or child support." The second woman is clearly a hateful monster. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 28/10/22 04:40 AM |
| 14 | "The Future Is Female" Is Hate SpeechI bet almost everyone that likes this phrase would be horrified by something like "the future is aryan". Hypocrisy, plan and simple. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 28/10/22 04:35 AM |
| 15 | what should we do for Incels?Listening is great but nothing will change until we convince the people who aren't willing to listen. Its kind of a catch 22: society won't listen to incels until it learns not to hate/fear them arbitrarily, and it won't learn not to hate/fear them arbitrarily until it listens to them. That's why we need something like "incel mediators". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/10/22 06:48 AM |
| 14 | what should we do for Incels?I think the best thing we can do is deconstruct WHY people shun incels and then counter it. For example: debunking the idea that virgin men are angry and therefore more likely to abuse women. Push back against "nice guy" ism whenever it comes up. When the topic of dating comes up, point out that practicing hypergamy isn't egalitarian. Warren Farrell also makes a great suggestion in the myth of male power. Encourage girls at a young age to see value in the stage 2 man, the same way we teach boys … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/10/22 06:45 AM |
| 24 | It’s time to talk about the social outcasting that is done to autistic boys.That's a really interesting point. Its always really annoyed me how people say that girls are more emotionally/socially intelligent than guys. Its like, are you kidding me? As a guy, everything you do is scrutinized to a ridiculous degree. It is absolutely imperative that you develop social skills because the pressure is so intense. You must be charming, use humor to disarm people, etc. especially when talking to women and you want a shot at dating. You have to prove you are not a predator (whic… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/10/22 07:00 AM |
| 36 | It’s time to talk about the social outcasting that is done to autistic boys.I just want to say as a non-autistic person that I know 100% what your are going through is real, simply because people have accused me of being autistic whenever I talked about problems I'm having. Never had a girlfriend? Well then you must be a socially inept moron who doesn't understand social cues. Shy? Introverted? Well everyone knows only autistic people can be shy and introverted. By misusing a label like that to explain someone's perceived personal failings, and then also to attack them … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/10/22 05:36 AM |
| 6 | Men, Intimacy & The "Right to Sex" - Between The Scenes | The Daily ShowYeah, I don't get why people treat this like rocket science. Its obviously different for straight guys to hug a cute girl than another dude. Trying to explain why is like explaining why 2 + 2 = 4 or what the word "the" means. Funny, you never see people saying that gay men should just hug women as opposed to wanting to hug the gender they are attracted to. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/10/22 05:20 AM |
| 4 | "Social isolation isn't a factor in guys struggling to have sex." One tweet later: "if you want to have sex, start by making friends."I don't even think its low confidence, per se. I get what you're saying, because (generally) women DO dislike low confidence. As in, low confidence will make a hot guy less attractive, but that does not mean the opposite (confidence make less attractive guys more attractive) is necessarily true. At least in my case, its wasn't due to low confidence at all. I haven't had as many opportunities in the last few years to be around single women my age as much I used to, but back when I was in college,… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 23/10/22 05:16 AM |
| 1 | "Kill All Men" is a response to misogynyCould you imagine if Adolf Hitler was alive today? He'd be all "No no no, when I said kill all Jews it was just in response to anti-aryanism, I don't actually want to kill all Jews. Pinky promise." | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/10/22 10:59 PM |
| 3 | The first part of this tweet is great, the second part is what I have a problem with.You know, I can think of many examples in history where men said "women are weak and prone to [emotional] fits" as justification for not letting them have any power. This kind of rationale also used to be why women were sent to insane asylums for "hysteria" and had their uteruses forcibly cut out. I get the feeling though that women like her would have enjoyed living in those times everyone condemns as sexist, but only from the male side of it. The sentiments she echoes here are awfully similar,… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/10/22 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Typical.What do you mean? This never happened. shoves paper in a memory hole Prove it. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/10/22 10:50 PM |
| 16 | do i need to say anything?That's actually technically true. But the important part they forgot is that it doesn't mean they ARE guilty, either. Not guilty is just not guilty. Its an agnostic position. They may still be guilty, but if you're going to say (or imply that), the burden of proof is on you. Innocent until proven guilty. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/10/22 10:47 PM |
| 2 | What this world can do to autistic men.Even though I'm not autistic or have any of those mental health conditions you have, I do feel as if I can relate to a lot of what you wrote. The fear is less intense for me, of course, but there is always that little nagging voice in the back of my mind that reminds me: "she could get you sent to jail where you'd be the one that gets raped and murdered". So I mostly engage with women on a very superficial level. I'll make small talk, laugh, make jokes, etc. and can even be a little charming wit… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/10/22 10:41 PM |
| 11 | "Social isolation isn't a factor in guys struggling to have sex." One tweet later: "if you want to have sex, start by making friends."I get why you're saying its hypocritical, but his point (I think) is that its not really about social isolation, because the social isolation is self-inflicted, and incels could just un-socially isolate themselves. IMO this is an even more damaging idea because its essentially victim blaming. Also, it assumes incels have zero friends which is simply not true. Maybe they have plenty of friends, its just that no women want to date them. But why would that be the case? Seems like a better place to … | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/10/22 10:21 PM |
| 6 | 26k likes for "if you're lonely, light a candle and go to the park." 🙄You know, I never thought about doing cool hobbies. I've just been sitting around doing nothing my whole life like an idiot. Now that I've read a book, I don't want a girlfriend anymore! Thanks random misandrist! /s | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/10/22 10:11 PM |
| 3 | From my recent misandrist experience with r/AirBnBEspecially if they said something like "women just bleed all over the place, its gross". That would be like hitting the ultimate feminist rage button. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 20/10/22 10:39 PM |
| 12 | Men, Intimacy & The "Right to Sex" - Between The Scenes | The Daily ShowI can hug male friends and all that, but it also doesn't help me at all. I could take it or leave it. It wouldn't bother me at all if I never hugged another man again in my life but it also doesn't bother me when another man goes in for a hug. What I want is to hold hands, cuddle, hug, etc. a woman--preferably a girlfriend or wife that I can be reasonably certain won't abandon me. The feeling of not having that and that I'll probably NEVER get that (whether justified or not) is what is causing m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/22 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Men, Intimacy & The "Right to Sex" - Between The Scenes | The Daily ShowI don't understand-didn't he specifically say that's not the real claim being made? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/22 09:56 PM |
| 22 | Men, Intimacy & The "Right to Sex" - Between The Scenes | The Daily ShowKind of a milquetoast take. On one hand, I like how he makes the distinction between intimacy and sex. On the other, he completely drops the ball by talking about male/male affection. That will not solve the issue. Men wanting intimacy apart from sex isn't going to be solved by intimacy with men. Its going to be solved by intimacy with women apart from sex. This means women undergoing courtship rituals on behalf of men, initiating, buying men things, being loving and kind to them, etc. Also, the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/22 09:45 PM |
| 3 | Shower thought: If a woman lies about her intentions during sex, for example by secretly not wanting to have sex, does that mean the guy was unable to give informed consent, and was raped?This logic checks out. It can be no less a "gotcha" that her withdrawing consent retroactively. There is another layer to this that you can use to build an even stronger case. A woman lying about her consent for sex could induce feelings of extreme guilt in the man (assuming he ever finds out). Even if she isn't visibly traumatized, he might rationalize that maybe she's just feigning nonchalance about it but is actually "broken inside". Magnify this problem an infinite number of times if it isn'… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/22 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")I get what you're saying, On the surface level, yes, it does seem very nicey-nice. I guess I'm just more literal minded and have a hard time separating the subtextual, transactional nature of it from the surface-level pleasentry. Like...I would rather have the "pay me, bitch" attitude than the fake nice one, because at least it would be more honest. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/22 08:35 PM |
| 2 | Women are more critical of female toplessness than men (but don't worry, it's men's fault anyway)Yes it is doublethink. If men were horny rape beasts that objectify women and only care about sex, then wouldn't they want women to walk around topless? Also, suggesting the first statement is in any way actually true is an extreme example of misandry. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/22 08:26 PM |
| 28 | Billy Ray is a predatory pedo who exploits power imbalances to sleep with 30 year old children!Silly MRA, don't you know women are mentally children and can't be held responsible for their own choices or consent to sex even when they're 30? Oh and by the way, we're the party that is pro women. -Feminists | /r/EverydayMisandry | 20/10/22 07:10 AM |
| 6 | Invitation by Warren FarrellI agree. Just finished "The Myth of Male Power" and its very surreal to see him recommend this website. He talked so passionately about the difference between stage 1 and stage 2 men in the book, and how society needs to align with stage 2 men more, but this feels more like those "alpha male" seminars (which would be stage 1). Specifically, its all the vague stuff about "becoming a man" and what not that makes me really suspicious. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/22 07:05 AM |
| 1 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")Regarding your first point, I think you answered the question well. I see where you're coming from now and totally agree. With the caveat that I guess I just don't understand that mentality. Even with the whole "its cheaper and less effort than normal" aspect, I don't see that as worth the price of walking away feeling humiliated and pathetic. Or are you saying that other guys don't feel that way in the strip club? Maybe I'm just weird. Regarding the second: I'm still not so convinced. Female se… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/22 06:52 AM |
| 50 | Women are more critical of female toplessness than men (but don't worry, it's men's fault anyway)Feminism: men are horny rape beasts that objectify women and only care about sex. Also Feminism: the reason women can't go topless is because men don't want to see it. We're definitely not living in a simulation because you seriously can't write this kind of doublethink idiocy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/10/22 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")You make some good points. In particular, the part about about rappers and bachelor parties and such. I guess part of the problem I'm having is understanding what these men get out of it. Like, why do they feel the need to go to a strip club if they already have harems of women that will actually have sex with them (in the rappers case) or are already in a relationship (in the bachelor's case)? As you said, stripping is like the "fast food" of sex and relationships. Why go to McDonalds if you're… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/10/22 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")Except you don't go straight to "the finish line". Stripping causes a man to walk away horny and unsatisfied. At least in traditional marriage, the man got to have sex (maybe only occasionally, but still), a lifelong partner, etc. True, the cost was steeper, but it also required a woman investing more as well. Stripping is all of that, but with less steps, less compensation for the man, and less effort by the woman. (15 minute lap dance vs. 60 year marriage). I'd take traditional marriage over p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/10/22 07:48 AM |
| 1 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")Are strippers in a position where they are demanding compensation? Tipping stage dancers is not at all mandatory, in most places you can literally go and watch the girls without paying a single dollar. You can watch without paying, sure, though its considered passe`. You are expected to tip them the same way you're expected to tip waiters. You technically don't have to, but people will judge you if you don't. Sure, you have to pay for lap dances, but even in that case it's the girls going around… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/10/22 07:38 AM |
| 2 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")I don't think this "stupid mammal instinct" is as universal as you think it is. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/10/22 07:28 AM |
| 3 | Did anyone have a good college experience?I graduated from a fairly conservative college, at least by Californian standards, which means it actually wasn't that conservative, its just more centrist than "radical left". That said, I did have one class that was all about feminism, patriarchy theory, etc. The strange part was it was supposed to be an Asian American studies class. I thought we were going actually learn about Asian history and culture and was genuinely bummed to find out it was just SJW stuff. Perfect example of how all the … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/10/22 06:19 AM |
| 2 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")The closest I can come to what you're describing is the expectation that feminine/androgynous men have to be gay. When you look at any type of media (except some rare examples in otaku culture) you never see feminine/androgynous men with women. They're always depicted as gay. Type "femboy" into google and you will instantly get results mostly leading to gay porn videos or images. When I tell fellow guys like me that I'm not into men they usually react with shock and make jokes like "lol, femboy … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/10/22 07:21 PM |
| 1 | What's happening to boys in school?Boys have on average simply more energy and are more competitive than girls. Do not make the mistake to write this off as misandry. I'm not saying the innate nature isn't there (on average), just saying we shouldn't cater to it and should try to counter it as much as possible. Straw man. Nobody here is doing that. Then can you explain how saying that boys can't be expected to sit quietly and learn isn't implying such? I mean, if you're having to translate lessons into some kind of "hands on" act… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/10/22 07:11 PM |
| 3 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")only possible because you had to pay desperate women hard cash to touch you. That's kind of what I'm saying. The party that can demand compensation for that is the one with power (bargaining power) and ultimately profits the most. Meanwhile, men walk away worse off for having spent a bunch of money for a temporary thrill. If that doesn't demonstrate a power imbalance I don't know what does. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/10/22 06:37 PM |
| 27 | Oh look it's that "Women are afraid men killing them, men are afraid of hurt feelings" bullshit. Again.People often forget that very few women get killed by men, whereas every man every day has to live with the experience of being isolated and seen as a threat. I'd happily except that risk if I could feel a little fucking warmth every now and then. Also, I guarantee you that most of these women spreading paranoia about men wouldn't hesitate to go out with a 6'3 athlete if they had the chance, even though he is MUCH more equipped to hurt her than you or I would be. Usually, "men are dangerous" is … | /r/EverydayMisandry | 08/10/22 08:24 AM |
| 7 | Can bullying shape violent fantasies?The fact that so many feminists call for the castration of men, "kill all men", etc. proves women can have just as violent fantasies as any man. I firmly believe that women are no less violent than men, they just act on it far less because they're aware of the biological difference. Its a normal human reaction to fantasize about violence as a means of revenge for real (or perceived) wrongdoing. What matters is whether you act on them or not. I think what people fail to understand is that 99% of … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/10/22 07:42 AM |
| 7 | People are more sceptical of sex difference research when findings favour men - The British Psychological SocietyThe irony is the that this study also favors men, so it would probably be ignored as well. Vote Giant Asteroid 2024. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/10/22 07:28 AM |
| 0 | What's happening to boys in school?I really can't wrap my head around this idea that "boys can't be expected to just sit quietly in class and learn". I never had any problem doing that and honestly would have hated it if my teachers tried to turn class into some kind of physical activity. All this talk about boys "needing things to be physical or they won't understand" seems more misandrist to me than the feminist position that boys need to learn to just sit calmly and learn. It seems condescending to paint the male gender as inh… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/10/22 07:20 AM |
| 1 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")Are you sure you're really gay and not just coping? I'm pretty sure most gay men don't feel disgust and contempt towards women. I could see maybe being bisexual, and only being attracted to women physically while having romantic feelings for men, so just deciding to stick with men. But not hating them. I'm as straight as they come and even I don't think men are disgusting. If I imagine men in a sexual context, sure, but not generally, not all the time. Love and hate are two sides of the same coi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/10/22 06:49 AM |
| 2 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")Revenge? Against whom? Women? Not women. Its so much bigger than that. More like "the system that makes this kind of exploitation and marginalization possible". Women aren't your enemy, my friend. The radical feminists who demonize and criminalize male sexuality are. Oh, and the capitalists, let's not forget them. They're the real exploiters of human needs, not women. Believe me, I know. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/10/22 06:10 AM |
| 5 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")Sure. But I see no good evidence that this is more true for men than it is for women. It's typically expressed differently, sure. But when zillions of women go gaga over some male musician or actor it's not at all a platonic thing. That's a pretty good point. I was thinking that its something both sexes do (being superficial that is), but didn't articulate that fully. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/10/22 06:08 AM |
| 3 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")What specifically is so implausible about it? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/10/22 06:05 AM |
| 5 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")At the same time, the men have some control over the women because they have the money that the strippers want; the stripper has to act like the man wants to get the money she needs. She doesn't have to. If she doesn't want to strip, she could get another job. while a rich man can use his money to get whatever he wants. I'm pretty sure if we're talking about a rich guy, the money is high enough that she doesn't strictly need it to survive. She just wants it, and if she's willing to do something … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/10/22 06:05 AM |
| 8 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")Also a couple of other counterpoints: The whole point of stripping is to tease and deny men, not actually having sex with them, so calling strippers "sluits" makes no sense. Sure, some strippers do prostitution on the side but surely not all. Ok, so the feminine power of sex appeal is a double edged sword. I get that. But by contrast, being a man is a zero-edged sword. Not only do you not get the thrill of being desired sexually, but you also get told you're a piece of shit. Getting called a slu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/10/22 05:59 AM |
| 10 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")Yeah, the one from the book is more like the second one in your story, and I think that colored Norah's perception a bit. That, and the fact that she mostly hung out with poorer, more working class kind of men. So its no surprise the strip club she went to was grungier as well. I can see how the atmosphere would be totally different in a place like that because the girls may not be doing it by choice but from pure desperation. That said, I can only imagine how much worse my experience would have… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/10/22 06:35 AM |
| 13 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")Yeah, I'd rather have the attractiveness power than the money power. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/10/22 06:31 AM |
| 7 | Why I hate strip clubs, and what they reveal about sexual dynamics. (A critique of Norah Vincent's "Self Made Man")I get what you're saying. Maybe I'm just a hardcore romantic, but based on my experiences, I can't imagine just hiring escorts would be enough for me. I'd probably just feel as pathetic, unfulfilled, and used as I did at the strip club. Maybe the sex would be worth it compared to masturbation, but as a virgin I really can't imagine it is so much better by comparison as to justify spending money on it at all. (Not to mention the risk, since its illegal where I live). I'd really just save that mon… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/10/22 06:30 AM |
| 33 | The Myth Of Male Power ReviewTo be fair, he wasn't writing this in the age of obnoxious fourth wave Tumblr feminists shouting about manspreading, mansplaining, saying looks are rape, etc. Things have gotten so much crazier since then. So its understandable that he had a more mild view on the dangers of feminism. I've noticed that prior to the early 2000s, people could disagree and get a long more amicably without one side having to call the other a rape supporter if they disagreed with them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/10/22 06:23 AM |
| 2 | Mandated diversity statements in academia & male advocacyI love how wokeists complain about women needing affirmative action-type policies to counteract sexism and level the playing field. But as soon as the fact that women already attend college more (and get better grades) comes out, they use it as evidence for women being smarter. If you were a woman or other minority, wouldn't you want to know you were at a university because you deserved it, and that you succeeded despite your sex/race? Not patronized and implied that you're less capable by being… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/10/22 11:04 PM |
| 6 | “Fragile masculinity” is an example of the most cruel feminist strategy - exploiting insecurityThere's almost nothing more authoritarian than making it so the only valid options are "agree with me, or agree with me". The party always wins no matter what. And the fact that they can dictate such ridiculous terms without mainstream society recognizing it shows their power. No oppressed group in history has ever been able to rig everything in their favor. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/10/22 10:55 PM |
| 12 | Wife Guys are the new Nice Guys.So "wife guy" means "a guy that pretends to love his wife even though he doesn't" in the same way that "nice guy" means "a guy that pretends to be nice to women even though he isn't"? Forgive me if that was supposed to be obvious, I have no idea what these posts you're referring to are. I am really familiar with nice-guy-ism, though. Since nowadays being nice, or describing yourself in such terms, or even just saying you aspire to such, will instantly get you labelled a creep. Because obviously … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/10/22 10:35 PM |
| 1 | I'm a Wizard Today, and I Feel AwfulWhy not just embrace the idea of being asexual? Obviously you're not really asexual. I'm not either, but I've toyed with the idea of telling myself in my head that I am one. At the very least, you could tell other people you're ace as a way of explaining it and so that you won't get as much shit. But at the same time, I feel like saying asexual isn't a complete lie. Its hard to maintain a level of excitement for, and interest in, a group of humans that consistently tells you "no" and holds you a… | /r/MenSupportMen | 06/10/22 10:22 PM |
| 5 | “Fragile masculinity” is an example of the most cruel feminist strategy - exploiting insecurityNot just narcissism, but the entire dark tetrad (psychopathy, machevllianism, sadism, and narcissism) predict both sexual and financial success. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/10/22 01:06 AM |
| 28 | “Fragile masculinity” is an example of the most cruel feminist strategy - exploiting insecurityMen are tyrannical, indestructible masterminds when feminism wants an excuse for their own failings, and we're pathetic worms when they want to feel triumphant. Reality is multiple choice. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/10/22 01:04 AM |
| 15 | “Fragile masculinity” is an example of the most cruel feminist strategy - exploiting insecurityIt doesn't even make sense on the face of it. "Oh look, these fragile males are standing up to the abuse we're laying on them, what a bunch of wimps". Ok...are you going to tell me that George McFly standing up to Biff was an example of him being "fragile" as well? Meanwhile, feminists are the ones with such a fragile position that they have to resort to these kinds of tactics and can't handle any level of pushback from men. They can dish out the abuse but not take it themselves. That's pretty d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/10/22 01:00 AM |
| 2 | If feminists believe in combatting so called “toxic masculinity”, why are they not fighting for more positive portrayals of black and Hispanic male masculinity?Yeah, instead of changing the script, they just dumped the responsibilities of both men and women onto men. So now men are expected to perform the traditional male role (provide, pursue, protect) and also the traditional female role (be loving and sensitive). But women are expected to do nothing. Suggest women provide and protect? Well men are stronger so obviously the draft should be all male, and women shouldn't have to work either because how else would they have kids you sexist jerk? Suggest… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/10/22 12:48 AM |
| 2 | If feminists believe in combatting so called “toxic masculinity”, why are they not fighting for more positive portrayals of black and Hispanic male masculinity?And then I realized that that was exactly the moment when masks just fell off :)) It also shows that those people have no understanding of the burden of leadership and what makes a man an effective killer/protector. Namely, that being vulnerable and empathetic is a direct contradiction to all of those things they are praising Zelensky for. In order to become an effective killer/protector or leader, you need the empathy and vulnerability to show emotion beaten out of you because those things are … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/22 06:55 AM |
| 4 | If feminists believe in combatting so called “toxic masculinity”, why are they not fighting for more positive portrayals of black and Hispanic male masculinity?It has often been mentioned on this sub how feminism was historically a middle/upper class white woman's movement, and how it--even today--plays into old racist tropes about non-white males being violent savages that want to rape white women. Therefore I cannot help but wonder if this is a case of "methinks thou dost protest too much". In my anecdotal experience, most of the white girls I knew growing up loved buying the CDs of black rappers who made songs with lyrics glorifying thug life. (The … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/22 06:42 AM |
| 20 | Found this on another subredditThat guy is lucky he figured out so easily that he has the wrong girlfriend. Hope he kicked her to the curb. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/10/22 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Would you be for or against this hypothetical?Either we get rid of men paying child support, or we do this. Personally, I like the former option better. But the law should be equal, either way. Either neither sex pays it, or both do. That pretty much describes my feeling on every issue. If nothing else, doing this would make people finally come out in force screaming for child support to be eliminated. A stepping stone, perhaps? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/22 11:51 AM |
| 1 | Biden administration guts due process protections for students accused of sexual misconductThat's kind of ironic, considering the things he's been caught doing to women and girls on public cameras. It boils my blood that guys like me are automatically assumed to be creeps and get no due process, yet a guy like him gets away Scott free with smelling little girls' hair? Like WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/22 11:45 AM |
| 3 | Men’s contact with children - considered feminine or too (creepy) masculine?Because the feminist narrative is "men are sex-obsessed perverts and anything they do must be in the pursuit of sex". When they see all male/female relations the same way, its really no surprise they would apply them to male/child relations too. Man being nice to woman? Grooming. He's obviously trying to ingratiate her with niceness to get sex. Man being nice to kids? Grooming. He's obviously trying to ingratiate them with niceness to get sex. (There's probably an interesting allusion to woman-a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/22 11:37 AM |
| 2 | What are the general rebuttals to "Men Commit the Vast Majority of Crime!" talking point?I applaud those women. We need more like that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/22 11:19 AM |
| 2 | What are the general rebuttals to "Men Commit the Vast Majority of Crime!" talking point?Its a small number of unusually aggressive and hyperviolent males that do not represent the majority of the male population committing the majority of those crimes. They are mostly repeat offenders. So it is not "men doing it to men" but "the worst men doing it to the rest of us good ones". Also, men are driven to crime in poor areas more than women because of the protector/provider role. So a man may sell drugs or rob liquor stores because he feels he has to provide and he can't do it any other… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/22 11:13 AM |
| 3 | Man (25) fired for accusations by girl (12) - but gets lots of support online by men and womenI wouldn't count this as a win unless the guy gets his job back and the school publicly apologizes to him. That said, its pretty refreshing to see how different public opinion can be in other countries. It seems like parts of Europe are a lot less radical woke feminist than where I live, the U.S. (Though there are also parts of Europe that are super woke, from what I gather). Thanks for sharing and providing a summary for us non-Dutch speakers. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/22 10:58 AM |
| 2 | Is paper/financial abortion socially responsible?I for one do think that most paper abortions would lead to biological abortions. Because more women than not would be unwilling to continue knowing that they can't lock the father down in the "male provider" role and would have to take on that role themselves. Now you may say, "but abortion is traumatic!" Yes. That is why more women will be incentivized to use the pill, not lie about being on the pill (not saying a lot of women do this, just that some do). Because if they know the father can wit… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/22 10:51 AM |
| 2 | Norah Vincent diedYeah, I heard about this too. Its a shame. Honestly, it makes me feel a bit guilty for never having read it. I always held off mainly because the points she discussed in it are often circulated as common mens advocacy talking points. If one good thing comes out of her death, maybe it will be that more people like me actually pick up her book. RIP Norah Vincent. We need more like you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/22 10:41 AM |
| 2 | Estonian PM: Every citizen is responsible for the actions of their state, and citizens of Russia are no exception. Therefore, we do not give asylum to Russian men who flee their country. They should oppose the war.Hey, genius: if you let all the young men flee Russia, then in a generation or so, there will be no war anymore because there will be no one to fight it. (Or at least their army will be a lot weaker). Unless Russia starts sending women to war of course, but I think we all know no country in the world would ever do that. Fleeing is literally their way of protesting it. Because if they stay, they'll get forced into it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/22 10:29 AM |
| 1 | Is masculinity a boundary to men?I for one don't care at all what people consider masculine or not. It's not that I'm setting out to be masculine or feminine, my goal is just to be myself. Part of the problem may be that when people say "masculinity" they really mean "traditional masculinity". I.E. strong, be a man, join the military, be a protector/provider, don't show emotions, success with women is everything, etc. When feminists are talking about "toxic masculinity" they are really just talking about this kind of stuff. Whi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/22 10:24 AM |
| 2 | Concerning the events in IranOut of over 700 protester arrests, 640 of them are men. You mean...even in a misogynistic, patriarchal country, there are good men who care about women and don't want them to be subjugated? *surprised Pikachu face* This shows plain as day its not "evil men keeping women down", even in a place like Iran. Its the regime. Separating men and women into essentialist State 1 gender roles is useful to the oligarchs. That is the only reason why. The sooner that fact is acknowledged the sooner we, as a w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/22 10:10 AM |
| 1 | Meat, masculinity and bullshitMale bodies have higher muscle mass on average. The best way to increase/maintain muscle mass is protein, and meat has a lot of that. When most boys go through puberty they start to want to eat more meat. For women meat is not so important, especially since it also raises testosterone. The answer is probably just biological--its really that simple. Reminds me of the connection feminists tried to draw between "manspreading" and masculinity when really it just has to do with the fact that males ha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/22 09:54 AM |
| 9 | Men don't see intelligent women as attractive? BS. Statistically men and women marry at a matching level of intelligence. We're not idiots.Yeah, that too. "Men don't care about personality" is a very easy excuse when your own personality is shit. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 16/09/22 12:37 AM |
| 2 | *Ignores blatant statistics*Really? Because I see it the other way around. The slightest hint of a man doing something weird or wrong is pathologized as "yeah he must be mentally ill". Meanwhile women doing shitty behavior gets explained as "don't blame her, its hard being a woman, she's just going through a tough time", etc. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 15/09/22 08:51 PM |
| 13 | Do men suffer because they are men?I just wanted to say that I really appreciate these consistently measured and logical responses. Its nothing short of amazing to me. I often find it difficult to remain clam like that in the face of such idiocy and blatant misandry. My response probably would have been something sarcastic like "Yeah, it really sucks how many female graves you can find at Arlington National Cemetery. OH WAIT you can't, because its all men!" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/09/22 08:45 PM |
| 19 | Men don't see intelligent women as attractive? BS. Statistically men and women marry at a matching level of intelligence. We're not idiots.I wonder if she is lacking in one of those qualities, and chooses to believe that men don't appreciate intelligence, when really they are making a judgement based on something else? In other words, she is seeing that most men don't want fat/ugly women or women with kids from another man and concluding that that's "all they care about". Newsflash, those other things are also important characteristics, and women make judgements about men based on them too. Or is she really going to claim that she … | /r/EverydayMisandry | 15/09/22 08:40 PM |
| 1 | how do you practice empathy/understanding towards women and their issues even while you aren't shown any towards your problems?Thanks | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/09/22 05:18 AM |
| 18 | Ten years of Tinder, and how it changed the dating marketTinder is a tool designed to exploit male loneliness and desperation. Its so insidious because of that faint sense of false hope that, oh, maybe it will be different this time, instead of me swiping all night and not getting a single match again. So you keep coming back for more and at some point its just a viscous cycle. You keep swiping to alleviate the symptoms of having your self-esteem wrecked but in the end it only wrecks your self esteem worse, so more swiping, rinse and repeat. And like … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/09/22 05:17 AM |
| 14 | An Interesting tumblr conversation about ale undersexualization and how it affects the discussion around female oversexualizationI feel like this was posted on here before? But yeah, its spot on. I pretty much feel that way every day and it makes me wanna cry. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/09/22 05:08 AM |
| 4 | Should boys start school a year later than girls?Its some of both. I look extremely androgynous naturally and have some feminine mannerisms. Like being more shy, introverted, passive, etc. Might have PAIS as well. Got told I was a "sensitive boy" and shit like that a lot growing up. Never really felt comfortable being aggressive or taking charge. And as you probably guessed, have absolutely no interest in sports or anything people seem to like. I like books, games, etc. Basically a classic nerd. Normally I prefer the term GNC (gender non-confo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/09/22 04:46 AM |
| 1 | Should boys start school a year later than girls?I would question the "gigachads of the future", however, because other than their obscene riches I don't see women flocking to the likes of Gates and Zuckerberg. Well that was exactly my point: the obscene riches. Even if you look at a smaller scale: who is going to make more money: an architect or a construction worker? A communications engineer or a ditch digger? Physical strength means very little in the modern world. Its only a matter of time until all manual labor is automated, and men with… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/22 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Should boys start school a year later than girls?And the sad truth is that being nerdy is often not such a severe impediment on girls. They have value inherently for their youth, beauty and wombs. As long as they are reasonably pretty, even the jocks will literally not care if they have "weird" or arcane-seeming interests they don't quite understand. Whereas for boys, their value comes from displays of traditional masculinity: fighting, sports ability, athleticism, aggression, extroversion, etc. Nerds fail at all of those categories, even thou… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/22 11:15 PM |
| 13 | Another article about #MeToo and ‘harassment’.A significant portion of MeToo is just women using sex as a weapon to further climb the social ladder and tear down men. I.E. they already did that before by trading sexual favors for career advancement (an option men don't have, I'd like to point out). And then decades later claim that they were forced into it so they can leverage even more power in the feminist climate of "believe all women". I'm sure there was a noble genesis to it, and undoubtedly there have definitely been some disgusting c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/22 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Should boys start school a year later than girls?the correct analysis, which is that at that age the girls were entering puberty and they wanted to be attractive to boys so they were dumbing themselves down, because "boys don't like smart girls". I find stuff like this so frustrating to hear because it is actually the exact opposite. It is (most) "girls who don't like smart boys". Why? Because being shy, introverted, studious, aka all the hallmarks of being a "nerd" are seen as unmasculine, and therefore feminine, and therefore bad, traits. Wh… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/22 10:48 PM |
| 9 | the root issue with social sciencesFor some women, yes. But not all or even most. The dark triad predicts sexual success, not the light triad. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/22 07:51 AM |
| 17 | how do you practice empathy/understanding towards women and their issues even while you aren't shown any towards your problems?First of all, there are way more lonely men than there are women who get raped, so the whole "but women get raped tho" argument is drawing a false equivocation. On a one to one comparison level, sure, getting raped is worse than being lonely. But men die all the time at their jobs or suffer from just as intense PTSD as rape victims as a result of war or other trauma (men make up the majority of overall violence victims) not to mention sometimes getting raped themselves as well. If you counted up… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/22 03:51 AM |
| 1 | They did it to themselves.You're right, wow. I just checked wikipedia but it doesn't say why. Just that it was "assisted suicide" so I'm guessing she had some kind of terminal illness. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 14/09/22 12:03 AM |
| 34 | Why are school shootings so common?Its not an incel problem because inceldom isn't the motivation for the vast majority of cases. The reason everyone thinks it is is because of Elliot Roger, who was motivated by inceldom, and Alek Minassian, who initially claimed it was because of inceldom but then later admitted that it wasn't, and that he just used inceldom to prop himself up. Indeed, if you look at most killings, the shooters are are killing indiscriminately, rather than targeting just "Chads and Staceys". The root cause is me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/09/22 10:42 PM |
| 57 | the root issue with social sciencesDid you ask the same question to women about men? They will never do that, because they know what kind of answers they will get and that it will contradict their narrative. I.E. if you polled women the same way, you would find the inverse: they (mostly) prefer men that are dominant and aggressive. So in other words, women perpetuate the very same "toxic masculinity" they are claiming to fight against through their mate selection. I use air quotes because, as you pointed out, the conclusion is wr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/09/22 07:35 PM |
| 11 | on the dynamics of catcalling, and romantic lonelinessFirst of all your original comment is a straight up defence and encouragement for violence No, I actually explained why "giving affection" =/= "women dating men they don't like". Try harder next time. Stereotypically women are seen as more emotionally supportive and nurturing, they are responsible for all domestic duties and they are expected to give up their aspirations to lift up their partner. Yes, women are stereotypically seen that way, but that does not make it so. Many things can seem one… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/09/22 06:50 PM |
| 1 | They did it to themselves.There was a lesbian who once did the same thing with a similar outcome as well. She wasn't FTM but disguised herself as a man. Norah Vincent was her name. I think she wrote a book about it too. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 13/09/22 04:53 PM |
| 2 | Reading 'The Myth of Male Power': ch.3Lol, same. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/09/22 07:00 AM |
| 2 | Bias against reserved menYeah, exactly. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/09/22 06:59 AM |
| 3 | Bias against reserved menWomen are individuals, they'll have different reactions. When did I imply otherwise? I said "those who called us nice guys". So, I'm talking about the specific women who do that. Not all women do that. So therefore, I'm not talking about all women. But then lack of social awareness and empathy leads her to use language that paints with a broad brush and tarnishes the reputation of real nice guys. That's exactly the issue being discussed. just like the "nice guys" themselves she believes that man… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/09/22 06:58 AM |
| 6 | If "pussy" and "bitch" are sexist words, why are "dick" and "bastard" not also?"Pussy" isn't a word against women, its a word against men, so I don't know why its grouped in with "bitch". The only reason "pussy" gets any attention is because feminists can claim it has to do with female biology, so is therefore sexist. Even though it actually comes from the word "pusillanimous" which existed before "pussy" was used as slang for female anatomy. I don't necessarily agree bitch, bastard, or dick are sexist, though. They're just words that mean "an unpleasant person". The only … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/09/22 06:32 AM |
| 11 | They did it to themselves.That's true. Its difficult to be certain, but it seems to me like more and more "chads" are adopting the redpill mindset. And why wouldn't they? There are no more checks and balances against it anymore. It used to be that gentle, compassionate men were the counterbalance, since if the "chads" were too rough, she had another option. But feminism demonizing "nice guys" has removed that option. They're just capitalists gaming the system feminism created. That doesn't justify their behavior, of cour… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 13/09/22 05:01 AM |
| 9 | They did it to themselves.That would be the ultimate poetic justice. But I'd only wish that on someone who actually did the inverse of that in real life. I bet this girl is just an angsty teenager trying to look cool by spouting feminist stuff she heard online. Most likely she won't actually report anyone for having a crush on her. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 13/09/22 04:56 AM |
| 13 | on the dynamics of catcalling, and romantic lonelinessYou're misunderstanding me. It is selfish to want to have your emotions and self-esteem catered to, without offering anything in return. However, I was speaking very vaguely so that you could take this in two ways. Very generally in a broad social context (men contribute to the overall pool of affection women receive, as a group, by pursuing them and with romantic gestures of affection, paying for dates, gifts, being sensitive to their needs, etc.) OR all of that stuff within the context of any … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/09/22 04:54 AM |
| 1 | The acceptable losses of the "forcefield defense" and possible alternatives?Even if that woman you saw with her force fields up had just approached a dozen men and made dates with all of them, that wouldn’t provide any comfort to you as the thirteenth man who she came across and treated icily, would it? No, but if I knew it wasn't completely unheard of for women to show interest in men, then I wouldn't feel pressured to ask out a woman every time I get an opportunity to do so (where it would be appropriate and not weird to do so, of course). Lets look at it the other wa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/09/22 01:40 AM |
| 2 | The acceptable losses of the "forcefield defense" and possible alternatives?It can't seriously be that common for a woman to get hit on by 5 guys on her way to a grocery store. But for arguments sake...yes, I would sympathize with not wanting to reject five guys on my way to a grocery store. That said...in my experience, I've never walked up to a random woman on the street and hit on her. I've only asked out women that I know personally and have talked to at least 30 minutes or so in a relaxed setting. Perhaps I should have specified that a little better in my post, but… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/09/22 12:12 AM |
| 1 | They did it to themselves.Which one? | /r/PussyPassDenied | 12/09/22 10:41 PM |
| 3 | They did it to themselves.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaBQq8M1Gbs | /r/PussyPassDenied | 12/09/22 10:41 PM |
| 19 | on the dynamics of catcalling, and romantic lonelinessI think you're correct about that observation. Its not a gender problem, its a problem that happens when either sex is isolated and deprived from attention by the other sex. The key point is that it simply takes an extreme case like an all female prison or all female school for that kind of deprivation to happen to women, whereas for men this is the norm. Modern feminism perpetuates the belief that women can have it both ways. That they can selfishly avoid giving men attention, but they can also… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/09/22 10:38 PM |
| 11 | Bias against reserved menIf they could see inside our minds, it wouldn't be pretty, and I suspect they know that. They don't want to acknowledge that we were exactly what they're asking for, but we spent years, decades of our lives being overlooked and disregarded for it. I suspect the same thing too. To be fair, I imagine the guilt of knowing all that would be pretty crushing. They may feel like they "don't deserve a good man" anymore because of how long they ignored them. Or the opposite, they may dig in their heels a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/09/22 08:44 PM |
| 141 | They did it to themselves.Nah. There will always be guys who do give women the attention they want. They're just going to be the wrong guys though, that don't care about boundaries. Most women will like the attention initially but when it turns sour they'll use that experience to justify "all men are like that". Only the good men that respect women's boundaries will stay away, leaving the bad ones as the only ones that approach and the only ones they have any knowledge of. Its a viscous cycle and quite literally a hell o… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 12/09/22 07:54 PM |
| 16 | Bias against reserved menI keep having this occurring thought over and over again. I wish all those who called us "nice guys" who "only want to get our dick wet" could telepathically look inside our minds and see who we really are. Maybe it wouldn't change anything, but maybe they'd be quite shocked. In any case, it feels like such a fantastical thing is the only way any kind of honest communication could happen anymore. I don't know how to follow up this perfect comment you wrote, other than to say I wholly agree with … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/09/22 07:49 PM |
| 17 | Bias against reserved menYou're not alone. Except for the part where women are initially fetishizing it, as you put it. That's really interesting because its never happened for me and I don't see that happening anywhere. Maybe things are different where you live so IDK. But other than that, I feel the same way. It really weird to me that in the age of me too and hypersensitivity towards sexual harassment, the type of man least likely to do such things isn't valued. All I see is (for the most part) loud, boisterous, cock… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/09/22 07:04 PM |
| 598 | They did it to themselves.I wish she could get her wish and live in a world where no men are attracted to or give any attention to women whatsoever. If only for just a little while, to see how much she likes it. Guarantee she would go mad and try to spin men not being interested in her as some kind of sexism as well. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 12/09/22 06:50 PM |
| 13 | Economic based virginity. Or how I still need to do everything as a man in a more expensive and demanding economy. Move out, become "independent," get a "good" job, become a supporter etc.I live in California which is one the worst places for taxes/rent in the US. Same, one bedroom apartments in decent neighborhoods are 2k+ a month in rent, meaning you can't even have roommates unless you're going to sleep in the same bed as them or someone sleeps on the couch. Its possible to find cheaper apartments for 1k+ in bad neighborhoods but even that might only be 1k/person with roomates. Frankly, it just doesn't make sense for me (27) to move out. Even if the cost of living were more af… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/09/22 03:20 AM |
| 2 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingUltimately that is what is going to (and already is) tear apart the PC ideology. When they can only express their views by twisting them in relation to an overarching philosophy, and non-compliance to that philosophy means metaphorical death, like in 1984 or the reign of fear, they are naturally going have to sell each other out to that overarching philosophy as "not real believers" due to their competing interpretations in order to protect themselves. Feminism is often compared to religion. Wel… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 06:05 PM |
| 4 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingYeah, I remember that scene well. Its from Justice League: War of the DC direct to DvD animated movies. Its in their definitely weakest cannon (the New 52 adaptation), and part of it is because of Rosario Dawson's Wonder Woman (the voice actress, who is a rad fem herself). That scene has always bothered me. I really like most versions of Wonder Woman because she comes from an island of people that are basically an allegory for modern third wave feminism, but either is already, or becomes, the th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 06:00 PM |
| 5 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingYou're right. Its a little "been there and done that" for me, but I'll admit, every once in a while I get a chuckle out of it. I just prefer not to focus on the negativity as much. But yeah, I guess it is important for people to keep doing this until PC culture is over. Not everyone has been exposed yet, which is probably going to be very important for the younger generations that are growing up with even more political correctness than we did. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 05:31 AM |
| 6 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingYou know that's just a character persona, right? He most likely doesn't have a drinking problem. He's just playing up what a grumpy drunk old man he is because that's how people perceive these kinds of guys that criticize shitty media with political agendas these days. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 05:28 AM |
| 7 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingYeah, sorry, I should have clarified: the original one, not 1984, which also sucked for many other reasons. Everyone loves to critique Snyder, but look what happened when he was booted out and Patty Jenkins got the full reins to the next movie. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 05:25 AM |
| 1 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingNope. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 05:23 AM |
| 28 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingRight. Of course Captain Marvel was a walking example of female toxic masculinity. "in the patriarchal framework, that is all women can aspire to". Lol I feel like I could get paid to write SJW shit for them. I mean it practically writes itself. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 05:21 AM |
| 8 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingI suppose you're right. I myself had a very strong anti-sjw phase in my early 20's and late teens. Of course I still consider myself anti-SJW, I just don't watch videos about it constantly anymore. Didn't mean to imply that its not valid, but its just so tiring. At some point you have to move on. But yeah, getting out of your system is cathartic for most people. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 05:19 AM |
| 22 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingYeah I love the points he brings up from an artistic/film analysis perspective but he is way more inflammatory than he needs to be. I feel like he is one of those guys that enjoys dunking on the SJWs for the "lulz" a little too much. Its just a really low hanging fruit, like picking on a disabled kid. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/22 10:17 PM |
| 71 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingIt mystifies me that the woke crowd can't see how this harms women. Its like asking someone "can you fight?" and they say "yeah I regularly beat up 10 or 20 guys at once as warm-up exercise". You wouldn't think they're tough, you'd think the opposite. You'd think they're weak as shit and overcompensating. Same thing with these Mary Sue female characters. It makes women look like they NEED to overcompensate. By being so over to top and cartoony, it makes it seem like the idea of a strong female c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/22 10:15 PM |
| 2 | The acceptable losses of the "forcefield defense" and possible alternatives?Not saying that this is an ideal response, or that it doesn't end up making some men feel even worse Ok so you just disproved your own arguement, thanks for that. Let's say that a woman believes that only 1 in 100 men would react negatively to being rejected, even politely. Lol, okay Donald Trump. I guess you also believe Muslims shouldn't be let into the country, since some of them are terrorists? Men being alone with women can sometimes lead to pretty bad outcomes, quite true, which is why men… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/22 10:07 PM |
| 0 | The acceptable losses of the "forcefield defense" and possible alternatives?And once again, my point is not that this is the best response, my point is that it doesn't necessarily suggest that she's trying to avoid rape; this the second time I'm repeating this. I guess you missed it the first time but my point is this: if she's not trying to avoid rape, what is she trying to avoid? Awkwardness? Question for you: is excoriating an innocent man's feelings and making him feel like a monster justifiable merely to avoid "awkwardness"? My contention is that it is childish and… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/22 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone here had feminists and the broader ideology have lasting negative affects on there life?You yourself just said drowning in pussy gets old, and in your first comment, you explained how the expectations of aggression make even you uncomfortable. And if that's the case, imagine how uncomfortable a guy like *me* would be? So why are suddenly pushing so hard to "just play the game, man"? The game is bullshit, its a meat grinder of humiliation, I don't even want the type of relationship I'd be most likely to get, and so I refuse to play until I'm respected more. Sorry if I sound rude but… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/22 04:16 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone here had feminists and the broader ideology have lasting negative affects on there life?a) Me and plenty of other guys like me already do that. b) I was giving you the short version. Yes, I have conversations and ask out at the end. But even an hour long conversation is not long enough to really get to know someone. That is what dating is for. c) I'm not going to drop my standards below--at bare minimum--"looksmatching". Yeah, I know I could get laid if I go for an ugly or fat woman. But I refuse to do that if I'm good looking and healthy. Frankly, its bullshit that in this culture… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 11:57 PM |
| 0 | The acceptable losses of the "forcefield defense" and possible alternatives?You don't understand how rejecting someone could be awkward? Uncomfortable, sure. But not necessarily awkward. Depends on how you mean the word, though, I guess. I take awkward to mean "breaking social conventions or some other tension that arises from miscommunication". And regardless, part of being a mature adult is having unpleasant conversations and facing things in a direct manner instead of trying to avoid them. Avoiding your problems instead of facing them head on is just childish. Again,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone here had feminists and the broader ideology have lasting negative affects on there life?Trying to show my competence is easier said than done, especially if they immediately end the interaction and don't give me a chance to show myself. I mean what am I supposed to do? Ask them to shadow me at my job? That's kind of what I'm wondering about your comment regarding "not seeming desperate" as well. What do you mean by that? The interaction is pretty much "Hey would you like to go on a date...no? Okay, have a nice day." What about that comes off as desperate? As far as not expecting a … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 11:30 PM |
| 17 | “What systemic discrimination do men face?”They benefitted by not having to go, and those men dying in their stead. At least in the case of Vietnam and Iraq. In more historical wars that actually threatened the existence of the US as a country, like WWI and WWII, those soldiers who died literally protected them not just by proxy but they defended the country in which those women lived and made their lives possible. And those very same feminists that opposed the war (which is good) also framed it not as a corrupt government elite exploiti… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 11:23 PM |
| 3 | advice on what to do with my life after a false accusationEventually, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Stay strong man. You seem to be handling this pretty bravely so far so just keep it up. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 11:20 PM |
| 1 | advice on what to do with my life after a false accusationProfessionalism? Posting on this subreddit isn't my job. I get what you're saying, but seriously? We're going to wring our hands over defending a false accuser's right not to be called bad words even though she definitely deserves it? Would you make the same argument if a woman used an insulting swear word in regards to male rapists? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 11:17 PM |
| 36 | “What systemic discrimination do men face?”How about the fact that men have always been and still are the only ones required to sign up for a draft? And when they go off to war and die or return home mutilated and traumatized (BTW war PTSD was found to be just as bad and maybe even worse than rape PTSD) they get treated like shit. Not only that, but the fact that men were required to fight in wars gets used as ammunition against them to "prove" men are the more violent and evil sex. You had men literally sacrificing everything for my cou… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 08:02 PM |
| 2 | The acceptable losses of the "forcefield defense" and possible alternatives?some are just trying to avoid an awkward encounter. How is it awkward to simply tell someone you are not interested? I would think that using deceitful methods to dance around the issue, rather than clear communication, is what would be awkward. I have no doubt that your dating experiences have been difficult, but that doesn't give you the right to use your experiences with women to make demonizing generalizations of every other woman, especially on an egalitarian subreddit. I didn't say every w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 07:54 PM |
| 7 | The acceptable losses of the "forcefield defense" and possible alternatives?Its kind of sad, really. They are living imprisoned in a hell of their own creation and don't even realize it. In all honesty I'm glad I'm on this side of the barrier, as much as it sucks. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 05:41 PM |
| 3 | The acceptable losses of the "forcefield defense" and possible alternatives?A security system doesn't need to be constantly preventing problems in order to be necessary. It isn't "failing" when it's in use but not actively preventing a problem. I didn't say that. I said it shouldn't be constantly activating when there is no threat. That is a massive failure. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 05:16 PM |
| 1 | The acceptable losses of the "forcefield defense" and possible alternatives?The forcefield is applied to men as a whole, at least in the minds of the women who do this. It is rationalized as defense against all men because all men are potential rapists. They have to pretend as if its applied evenly to all men so that if she accepts the 6'3 asshole but rejects the 5'8 nice guy, she can say "well the 5'8 guy was being creepy" and no one will question it. Its one thing to be rejected. That's fine. But its another thing to take elaborate self defense measures like giving ou… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 05:12 PM |
| 7 | The acceptable losses of the "forcefield defense" and possible alternatives?Exactly. Love your extension of my analogy. Its confirmation bias. Or another way to put it: the correlation = causation fallacy. "Oh look, I put my guard up ten times, and all ten times, I didn't get attacked. That must mean that putting my guard up saved me from getting attacked all ten times!" No. They weren't going to get attacked anyway. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 04:43 PM |
| 2 | Has anyone here had feminists and the broader ideology have lasting negative affects on there life?Thanks for your support. Its good to be reminded I'm not crazy. Hearing it from fellow "incels" like myself is one thing but its much more meaningful to hear it from a guy who has all the reason in the world to lie and not give a shit about guys like me. I used to hate guys like you and rationalize that you were all the monsters that most women seem to want you to be, or at least you were ok with pretending to fit that role. But its comments like these that made me soften my stance. Its incredib… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 04:39 PM |
| 4 | The acceptable losses of the "forcefield defense" and possible alternatives?There are countless women who use dating apps to meet up with men they've never previously met. There are women who travel abroad by themselves, women who walk home alone after dark, women who go to nightclubs filled with drunk men; these are not the behaviors of a person who believes that any man could be a rapist. The only thing that proves is that there is a double standard in how the forcefield is applied. Plenty of women will allow an aggressive 6'3 jock who immediately makes disgusting sex… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 04:28 PM |
| 4 | The acceptable losses of the "forcefield defense" and possible alternatives?They both hurt in different kind of ways. Ghosting is horrible because it gets your hopes up, but instantly getting electrocuted by the forcefield is just as jarring. It can make you feel more hopeless and powerless since you can't even apparently make the initial contact. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 04:20 PM |
| 7 | The acceptable losses of the "forcefield defense" and possible alternatives?Yeah a self-fulfilling prophecy indeed. That is exactly what I meant when I said it is not even effective in the first place. Should I have my door unlocked in that case? No, you should lock your door. This is not a good analogy though because no one is going to get offended over a locked door denying them entry. A better example would be "I'm afraid of burglars, so I covered my front porch with caltrops" and then an innocent neighbor coming over to borrow a cup of sugar steps in them and wounds… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 04:11 PM |
| 3 | advice on what to do with my life after a false accusationYou're welcome. And you may be right. I have no idea how commonly this happens and might just be paranoid but I have always wondered about the possibility of vigilante white knights going after falsely accused. I've never been accused of rape, but there have been times that I feared I would get my ass kicked by white knights. I am not the strongest, tallest, or biggest guy by any stretch of the imagination. Once I was walking and talking to this girl that I knew from class and by the time I real… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 05:41 AM |
| 1 | Does this qualify?Latin borrowed heavily from ancient Greek so it was also part of that language as well. But I guess that is *technically* more correct. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 08/09/22 05:23 AM |
| 3 | How does misandry hurt men in the same ways misogyny hurts women?Would be interesting to see your proof of the opposite, actually. I am not the one making an extraordinary claim like "all men are evil and throughout history constantly raped women". The burden of proof is the other side. Especially when it is so obviously oversimplified and hateful to one gender. Its basically akin to asking "Okay, so prove to me Jews aren't evil?" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 05:20 AM |
| 1 | LeftWingMaleAdvocates top posts and comments for the week of August 28 - September 03Wow, I finally made it into this recap and with two at once nonetheless! Prepare to watch me fade back into obscurity now lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 05:15 AM |
| 3 | The pros and cons of total sexual freedom, and the possibility of nuance.Yeah, that's basically another form of cognitive dissonance. Basically their entire web of lies comes crumbling down around them and they don't want to accept it because it would mean they've been the bad guy all along. In a way I can almost sympathize with finding out their entire worldview is a lie. Operant word here being "almost". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 05:12 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone here had feminists and the broader ideology have lasting negative affects on there life?I consider one of the main reasons that I'm perpetually lonely (romantically) is because of modern feminism. I'm a gamer and a "nerd" type so therefore I'm automatically bad because of gamergate and because everyone knows all gamers are fat neckbearded misogynist manbabies, amirite? Factor that in with the general paranoia and fear incited by modern feminism into the minds of young women and you have things like the "nice guy" paradox. Oh, he's a sensitive and caring guy? Obviously that's just a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 04:13 AM |
| 20 | Thoughts on TERFs and the general reaction to them?Great point. Everyone needs to remember that TERFS are also the same people that would ban someone for simply saying "not all men are rapists" (true story, it happened to me). Trans people are less than 1% of the population. But men are 50% of the population and they are literally inciting hatred against us by saying we're all rapists and misogynists to the point that we would pretend to be women in order to rape more. Can anyone honestly say that the former is more important than the latter? Es… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 03:54 AM |
| 4 | advice on what to do with my life after a false accusationAs fucked up as it sounds to say this, you got off easy, at least compared to many stories I have heard. Sounds like she hasn't filed any actual accusations with the law yet. But you did a good job by taking all those screenshots and stuff because if she ever does pursue legal action you will easily be able to show the inconsistencies. As for all the people who took her side? They weren't true friends anyway. I know that's a real sour grapes way to look at it but its not totally false either and… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 03:48 AM |
| 3 | The pros and cons of total sexual freedom, and the possibility of nuance.Sex negative feminism did have something to do with it. Maybe I wasn't being clear, but that's partially what I meant when I said: I think another reason for the low sex rates is that a lot of women try out the promiscuity lifestyle, get abused by bad men, conclude that "all men are like that", and swear off dating. Most sex negative arguments come from the position I outlined above: "all men are evil and just want to hurt women so by definition sex and sexual attraction is objectifying". And ho… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/22 08:59 PM |
| 6 | The pros and cons of total sexual freedom, and the possibility of nuance.Sadly I think part of the problem is that many (but not all) women do want a guy like you described. Confidence to the point of arrogance. Assertive to the point of aggression, etc. Of course they don't want to be beaten and mistreated and raped, but that's a natural risk of those type of men because they are the ones that are far more likely to hurt women because of those very traits. When you play with fire, you get burned. I think its because nature (evolution) programmed women to seek out th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/22 08:51 PM |
| 4 | The pros and cons of total sexual freedom, and the possibility of nuance.I'm with Perry on this one. At the risk of sounding like a biological essentialist, I do think that on average women ARE less promiscuous by nature. The stats clearly show that most people of both genders are having less sex than previous generations and that trend has been continuing with each successive generation going back pretty far. Women are now freer than ever to have as much promiscuous sex as they want but most are not taking advantage of that. You would expect to see something closer … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/22 06:33 PM |
| 2 | Post with multiple awards dehumanizing men to an insane degreeHaha, thanks. I'm proud of it :) | /r/EverydayMisandry | 07/09/22 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Post with multiple awards dehumanizing men to an insane degreeIDK depends on your gender, I'm not into guys. Unless you're another femboy then maybe I'd consider it :) | /r/EverydayMisandry | 07/09/22 06:01 PM |
| 2 | Does this qualify?Easy way to remember it: andro = latin for male/man gyno = latin for female/woman Which is why "andro - gyny" means "possessing the qualities of both male and female". | /r/PussyPassDenied | 07/09/22 05:58 PM |
| 46 | Does this qualify?Seems like a better fit for r/everydaymisandry | /r/PussyPassDenied | 07/09/22 07:19 AM |
| 34 | Struggling to find any good argument against mandatory paternity testingIf there was a test that could reveal whether a man is a rapist/woman abuser, and men were refusing to take it, women would (rightly) be skeptical. They would be saying "if you're not a bad one then you have nothing to fear". But when we do actually have perfectly good way to reveal whether or not a woman is pregnancy's frauding a man, and women are refusing to let men take it, no one is skeptical. "If you're not a bad one, you have nothing to fear" gets met with accusations of misogyny. You kno… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/09/22 06:19 AM |
| 11 | Research on gender difference in sexual preferenceI can't help you with academic studies but I did just want to point out a couple things. EDIT: check out the work of Gad Saad. One, that plenty of women do go for looks as well, possibly because looks can be a kind of "status". More masculine traits (broader shoulders, more muscle mass, height, etc.) can be taken as signs of strength. And strength would have translated to status in early human history. Which is itself (like all status) really only a goal to reach protecting/providing ability. Tw… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/09/22 06:10 AM |
| 2 | Why did this die so quickly?Could you even imagine the shitstorm that would be caused if a man did this? | /r/PussyPassDenied | 06/09/22 06:02 AM |
| 8 | Men of PPD: Have you ever rejected a woman? If so, how did that go down?I just recently made a post where you could sort of say I rejected a woman. Technically, she rejected me first in a really psycho way by telling me she never wanted to see me again. But then she came in for a hug with arms wide and a smile later on, so I shut her down. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 06/09/22 05:57 AM |
| 8 | In my personal opinion, I don't think current feminism is left wing.I have another account where I post in the sub role reversal, and its mostly wholesome but there is a viscous undercurrent of radfem types that seemingly have the support of the mods. Because of that, there are conversations that go like this: Me: I think it would be cool if women took a more active role in dating Them: Nuh-uh because...rape culture. We'll get raped. Me: So you're a "strong, independent woman" that wants to take over traditional male roles but you're terrified of men? Do you wan… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/22 05:55 AM |
| 2 | Does this count as pussypass denied?"Accused of" asking her out? So not only did somebody claim you asked her out, but they did it way after the fact, and they also tried to make it seem like asking out women is a bad thing? What the absolute fuck. If I had a week I could not untangle that web of insanity. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 03/09/22 08:14 PM |
| 6 | Does this count as pussypass denied?I did get kind of a misandrist vibe from her one time. She was into anime, and started complaining about a famous one called Kill La Kill that has a lot of fanservice, even though that is actually a parody of fanservice but who cares anyway. She complained about the male gaze in it and when I questioned her why it would have to be a "male gaze" since women might want to see that too (ironic because she herself was bi), she awkwardly ended the interaction and walked away. I'm really glad I wasn't… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 02/09/22 10:50 PM |
| 29 | Emotional support structures for men, or lack thereofThat just mirrors the way society reacts to men and women talking about dating. Man venting about dating: sexist entitled incel Woman venting about dating: poor thing, she must have been hurt so many times by bad men so no wonder she feels that way, its not her fault | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/22 05:14 PM |
| 14 | Emotional support structures for men, or lack thereofThe feminist reading of the issue (men should support each other more) is a fundamental misunderstanding. Its not that men don't support each other, we do. Its just that we don't support each other in the same way that women do. Straight men require one kind of support from other men (have a drink together, acknowledge issues, guys night, etc.) and one kind of support from women (hugs, cuddling, affection). Why is this a hard concept for people to grasp? Is it not natural to want more intimate f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/22 05:11 PM |
| 9 | What can be done to help solve the under/desexualization, sexlessness, loneliness, etc. of so many men?If women are really attracted to power to such an extent then maybe society should return to the anarchic ways of traditionalism. Women should surrender their rights, not be allowed to have jobs, money, own property, and have to rely on a man for survival. Because if we're going to have an egalitarian and equal society, it is not realistic for the average man to have more power than the average woman. (I don't really believe the above, just exposing the hypocrisy). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/22 04:44 PM |
| 19 | What can be done to help solve the under/desexualization, sexlessness, loneliness, etc. of so many men?Ironically, feminism acts like how they portray males incels as as (entitled man babies that want supermodels while being hideous themselves). Maybe not quite to the same extreme, but you get my point. Males incels acting that way are a small minority and are universally despised, but when female incels act that way, its most of society. Its a mainstream movement and universally accepted. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/22 04:33 PM |
| 65 | What can be done to help solve the under/desexualization, sexlessness, loneliness, etc. of so many men?The way I see it, the problem is that modern feminism has encouraged the attitude of "having your cake and eating it too". I.E. getting the best of both worlds. It seems like most (but not all) young women want to be seen as strong and independent, but they don't want to actually BE strong and independent. They don't want to risk rejection. They still very much want the position of the "desired/choosing sex" and all the power that comes with it. They want to date up the social ladder. They want … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/22 08:01 AM |
| 15 | How does misandry hurt men in the same ways misogyny hurts women?it was men who got to be generals No, it was just a very few, very lucky men. The rest were footsoldiers with no say. That is how the oligarchy works. Women for most of our history were very close to property - they had little or no education Depending on what point in history we're talking about, both genders were basically uneducated slaves to the upper class. For example: medieval serfs. their husband owned everything, they could be raped at will, they could not have jobs or money of their ow… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/22 07:42 AM |
| 3 | Does this count as pussypass denied?There's no guarantee that me accepting the hug would have led to sex. Even if it did, I don't consider that worth it. I don't need sex to feel good about myself but if she was really using me as a rebound then she clearly does. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 02/09/22 04:57 AM |
| 5 | Does this count as pussypass denied?If it were really some kind of scenario like that, you'd think she would have tried to talk to me afterward and explained the situation. I might not have believed her, but if she didn't hate me, wasn't using me as backup, and actually wanted to be friends again, you'd think she would have at least tried. Also, she told me straight to my face not to call her or talk to her ever again, not over text, when her girlfriend wasn't there. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 02/09/22 04:55 AM |
| 52 | Does this count as pussypass denied?There could be another layer to this too: she was already on a rocky relationship with her SO and was actually looking to cheat on her with me. Because all this actually started after I told her I enjoyed meeting her SO and that she seemed like a cool person. (Though why she wanted to introduce me to her, I have no idea, that seems counterproductive). I think maybe her partner caught on that I was the "other guy" so she had to deny it by painting me as a creep. It failed, hence the breakup and r… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 01/09/22 10:23 PM |
| 8 | Does this count as pussypass denied?The crazy thing is I expected her to be cool because as a woman who dates other women, she should've gone through the same B.S. as most of us guys. You'd think she'd be able to empathize with being labelled a creep. I guess its literally just paranoia over men being attracted to women instead of just women attracted people in general. I don't think it was because she's bi though. Almost every time I've asked out a straight woman she pulled some kind of stunt. Not quite as bad as this but similar… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 01/09/22 10:15 PM |
| 7 | Does this count as pussypass denied?Yeah, maybe I should have done that. But I was thinking about the other people there and did not want to cause a scene. We were all enjoying a pleasant evening up until that point. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 01/09/22 10:07 PM |
| 7 | Does this count as pussypass denied?That's the same thing I basically concluded at the end of this whole experience. Its not feasible to remain platonic friends with women anymore. At least not ones you have expressed interest in. In a perfect world it really shouldn't be a problem, people should be able to act like mature adults, but sadly that seems impossible. I suppose I can rest easy though knowing it was not me who fucked things like that up for no good reason. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 01/09/22 07:31 PM |
| 23 | “Anything to do with male sexuality is bad” - r/justneckbeardthingsMen talking about their sexual desires and kinks: bad Women talking about their sexual desires and kinks: good Modern feminism, everybody. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/09/22 05:57 PM |
| 15 | Why do you think most women are hostile about manly traits but seem to be attracted to them?I think you give too much credit to red pill. They do not mean in it the "1 in 10 jellybeans are poison" kind of way. Which, even if they did, would still be disgusting. Feminists use that same tactic against men, which I'm sure you're against. I.E. "not all men are rapists but we don't know which ones are so we have to treat all of them that way". And then they use that to justify "yes, all men" and backpedal with the jellybeans when questioned. Apply this same logic to anything else. 1/10 blac… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/09/22 04:51 PM |
| 105 | How does misandry hurt men in the same ways misogyny hurts women?men are the ones who only allowed men to fight for the longest time Wrong. You should look up the white feather society. Its a pretty disgusting and fairly recent historical example of women encouraging men to die in wars. And to say that "men made the draft" is equally incorrect because it assumes that men have been the only ones running society forever. In reality, women had just as much influence over society, they just influenced it from a less obvious position of power: the household. They … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/09/22 08:15 AM |
| 61 | Why do you think most women are hostile about manly traits but seem to be attracted to them?I think there are a few reasons: Dual mating strategy "Shit tests", like you said Genuine cognitive dissonance, i.e. not realizing or wanting to admit that modern egalitarian values contradict their attractions: they still want the "alpha male of the jungle" Red pill does a great job at explaining the evopsych roots of this kind of stuff, at least as it applies to most (though not all) women. Where it goes wrong is: In saying AWALT, now and forever, aka its an inborn female trait and ignoring th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/09/22 08:01 AM |
| 1 | Well-being of incels: an interesting paperI used "them" in the beginning because I was talking about misogynistic incels. I switched to talking about myself later on because I switched to talking about all incels in general, not just the incel-subculture ones. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/09/22 07:29 AM |
| 2 | Am I the only one that notices a greater willingness by society to show male nudity in media than female nudity?Couldn't have said it better myself. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/08/22 05:02 PM |
| 3 | Am I the only one that notices a greater willingness by society to show male nudity in media than female nudity?A bit off topic but yeah that is ridiculous. I heave heard that in Europe it is the exact opposite. Nudity does not equal an automatic R rating but violent stuff that would be PG-13 in America is. Personally, I think both are fine for teenagers (depending on how extreme). It really just comes down to the individual kids maturity level and the parent's judgement, but that's just the problem. Parents don't want to be responsible for regulating what their kids watch and teaching them anymore. They'… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/22 11:18 PM |
| 2 | Guess which one is controllable.Wait a minute, if he messaged her "suck my dick" that would constitute sexual harassment. He should report her. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 30/08/22 11:13 PM |
| 5 | Am I the only one that notices a greater willingness by society to show male nudity in media than female nudity?Eh, I'm fine with unrealistic bodies as long as they are equally unrealistic for both genders in the same media for the purpose of entertainment. Especially in the case of something like superhero animation for which the whole point is the characters being larger than life and a power fantasy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/22 11:12 PM |
| 5 | Am I the only one that notices a greater willingness by society to show male nudity in media than female nudity?So my problem is not that male nudity is being shown in the movies. But that female nudity is surrounded by neo-puritan taboos and the demonization of male sexuality. That's essentially what I'm saying. If the guy were alone in the scene it would be fine, if they were both in underwear, fine. But just him being in underwear but her not is just a double standard. I'd feel its equally bullshit if she was in bra and panties and he was normally clothed as well. Unless there was some kind of adequate… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/22 11:08 PM |
| 6 | Am I the only one that notices a greater willingness by society to show male nudity in media than female nudity?While I agree with that, I don't think you're getting the spirit of what I'm saying. I also think its fair to show more T&A than dong because, well, those things are not as serious and sexual as a primary sex organ. A more comparable example would be showing dong & vag. And the latter almost never happens, so there is actually an imbalance there as well. In this particular case, it wasn't dong: it was a guy in his underwear. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/22 11:04 PM |
| 4 | Am I the only one that notices a greater willingness by society to show male nudity in media than female nudity?Not only that, but they don't want to surrender that power by allowing men to also have that power of sex appeal. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/22 04:58 PM |
| 5 | Am I the only one that notices a greater willingness by society to show male nudity in media than female nudity?Like I said, if he were alone in the scene, it would not be a problem. Its the fact that he was with a woman who had a similar justification for having her clothes destroyed but magically they kept her in them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/22 04:23 PM |
| 6 | Am I the only one that notices a greater willingness by society to show male nudity in media than female nudity?I didn't even see that. I don't want to support crappy movies with my dollar especially when they're influenced so heavily by the feminist narrative. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/22 04:22 PM |
| 1 | ….no wordsThose kind of things do happen, but surely it can't be common for women to get off THAT easily. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 30/08/22 05:49 AM |
| 16 | ….no wordsI 100% guarantee this is fake, it has the same exact tone as the "my 5 year old made an insightful and adult sounding comment about patriarchy" type posts. The western world is pretty gynocentric but it is not so gynocentric that she wouldn't have to have some kind of charges, especially if the dude went to the hospital. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 29/08/22 11:44 PM |
| 3 | The misandrist idea that single men are lonely because they should be ‘emotionally available’ and ‘open up more’ totally debunked.Its not misandrist, I'm just saying that society has discouraged men from acting that way, so that is how most are going to be. Just like saying most women are hypergamous because they are encouraged to be that way from a young age is not misogynistic. Most men have the potential to be kind and most women have the potential to not be hypergamous, its about what society promotes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/22 04:31 PM |
| 2 | "Most politicians are men"Yes, most politicians were men. All that reveals is it was mostly men perpetuating a system designed to protect and provide for women, making women the real ruling class. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/22 04:02 AM |
| 13 | The misandrist idea that single men are lonely because they should be ‘emotionally available’ and ‘open up more’ totally debunked.Its true, most women are not into emotionally sensitive, kind men. And most men are probably not emotionally sensitive and kind. But I honestly think that it is because most of us learned that we weren't "supposed to" be that way, that it wouldn't help us find love. Some of us who see through the bullshit and/or feel the impulse to be naturally emotionally sensitive/kind decide to be ourselves anyway. (That description is probably over-represented in this sub.) Point being, women could decide to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/22 03:51 AM |
| 6 | Feminists hate lonely men the same way conservatives hate poor peopleYou know that kind of superior hate. There you are, walking down the street and everyone just thinks you're this useless, jobless piece of crap. But inside, you feel really strong. Their hatred sort of helps you feel that way. You're right, comparing this to datelessness is so poignant. I've felt that EXACT way so many times. Its something you tell yourself as cope, but its also true in a way. Because if you are hated, that means you must be threatening their power base in some way. That means t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/22 03:31 AM |
| 79 | Feminists hate lonely men the same way conservatives hate poor peopleIts because the haves usually hate the have-nots. In many ways, sex/gender politics has an element of ruthless capitalism to it. Men, disproportionally compared to women, are the have nots. Just like rich conservatives, feminists don't want to acknowledge the plight of the poor (men) lest it threaten their own power base and reveal the inequalities. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/08/22 03:44 AM |
| 26 | Women asks why men don’t give women slack for being assholes because of hormones.This is kind of scary because these same kinds of arguments were used by patriarchal cultures in the past. For example, cutting out women's uteruses because they believed female hormones drove them crazy, sending women to insane asylums when where they got electroshocked, etc. As well as believing that women were like children, and could not be expected to handle anything because of their irrational hormones. Any woman that asks for a pass because of her hormones either needs to read up on histo… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 27/08/22 06:11 PM |
| 2 | Why cheating is now a good thingI'm not quoting directly from memory because my memory isn't THAT good, but yeah, that is the general idea. FDS basically says this same kind of stuff regularly, but with nicer words. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/08/22 11:08 PM |
| 7 | Well-being of incels: an interesting paperIt looks like you're right on the divorce rates, but median income increasing doesn't mean much with massive inflation and rent costing 2k a month for shitty one bedroom apartments (ok so that's based on where I live but you get my point). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/08/22 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Why cheating is now a good thingLike I said in another comment, I don't screenshot my conversations on reddit and I have no idea how I'd find them. But if you go on feminist dominated subreddits and such, its really easy to get people to start doing this kind of thing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/08/22 05:09 PM |
| 3 | Why cheating is now a good thingI can't screenshot something for you but if you go on feminist dominated spaces that discuss dating issues, you will really get women coming out of the woodwork to defend this kind of thing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/08/22 05:07 PM |
| 53 | Found this infographic on Twitter claiming women work more than men.You mean stuff men do too? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/08/22 06:36 AM |
| 12 | Well-being of incels: an interesting paperYeah, reddit gave me a new avatar or something and it activated without me realizing lol. I'll probably change it back. I just told him I'd let him interview me, or if he wants to include me as a respondent in future surveys or something. Not all women, but I honestly do believe that most are all that stuff you said. You know, disgusted by us, don't really want us to be happy, etc. We're a threat to them at worst (in their mind) and just some "random irrelevant thing" at best. Most because those… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/08/22 06:32 AM |
| 7 | Well-being of incels: an interesting paperYou should write this guy and tell him you'd be willing to participate in his studies. I ended up finding his contact info from the page and emailing him. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/08/22 02:25 AM |
| 6 | ‘Men have issues because they don’t talk’A lot. But strangely, that "someone else" never seems to come up. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 11:38 PM |
| 2 | ‘Men have issues because they don’t talk’Doesnt seem that much different to be told to not even think about it by someone else or your own brain, at least for me I guess I'm just a contrarian. Or maybe I'd rather find out for myself, than wonder what could have been, even if its a small chance. That was like 3 years ago though. It was actually one of the things that made me give up. I mean if there was a girl I liked I'd probably still ask her out, but I stopped actively looking to date. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 11:05 PM |
| 2 | ‘Men have issues because they don’t talk’Maybe you're just smarter than me then :) In my defense though, its really hard to simply refrain from acting on your feelings simply because someone said it was a bad idea. I mean, how can they really know how someone will react? Its one thing to decide on your own not to try, but another to be told to bottle it up and not act on your feelings by someone else. In my case, I just felt like I would be a pathetic loser who missed out on a potential good chance if I wasn't brave enough to shoot my … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 10:33 PM |
| 38 | Well-being of incels: an interesting paperThis is what I've been saying all along. Even the worst ones, the most misogynistic ones, are more of a threat to themselves than anyone else. Regarding "moral elitism": of course incels will think they are morally superior to everyone else. When society treats them like shit (undeservedly) of course they are going to have low faith in humanity. Similarly, its difficult to develop empathy when you yourself are not receiving any. People learn to love by being loved, not the other way around. That… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 10:01 PM |
| 3 | ‘Men have issues because they don’t talk’If you don't mind me asking, have you ever lost friends because of something like this? Its so frustrating because its happened multiple times to me including in the instance I mentioned and I don't understand why it makes me such a piece of shit. All I did was ask out someone he knew, she said no, and I left her the hell alone after that. If she had said yes, would it have been such a problem? I get that he told me not to do it, but that was in a "this is for your own interest" kind of way. He … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 09:52 PM |
| 5 | Appeal to grieved identityI think we should come up with a fallacy for the "but women get raped tho" argument. AKA "X is not a problem because problem Y exists and is worse". (In this case, X is some problem men have and Y is some problem women have). Yeah, well, more women die from car crashes than from rape, so by that own logic, we should not care about rape and focus on stopping car crashes. The above (in bold) is complete baloney though, we don't ignore people with migraines because cancer victims exist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 09:46 PM |
| 1 | How do any of you manage to date non-egalitarians?I generally don't manage to date at all, unfortunately. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 08:34 PM |
| 7 | Gender Studies CareerDoesn't the existence of a male worker making sandwiches instead of running a fortune 500 company kind of disprove the entire patriarchy theory though? I wonder if her professor is secretly trying to red pill the women in the class. If so, they have my applause. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 25/08/22 08:18 PM |
| 25 | Why cheating is now a good thingThis really doesn't surprise me, feminists have been defending cucking for as long as I've been involved in gender politics. Its just another extension of the "rules for me but not for thee". I've even seen feminists arguing that its their "duty" to sleep around so they can try to get the most "fit" male with the best sperm. Remind me again of how women are NOT baby machines? Even if cheating was encouraged for men, the sad reality is that women would still have the advantage due to their easier… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 08:16 PM |
| 3 | ‘Men have issues because they don’t talk’Well I don't know your age but if I'm 27 then the answer would be yes if you're 23. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 08:02 PM |
| 2 | thinks she deserves a husband cause she is pretty, gets shut downPlot twist: she rejected this guy in high school/college and deeply regrets it. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 25/08/22 08:23 AM |
| 25 | ‘Men have issues because they don’t talk’I'll never forget what one of my friends told me once. He was counseling me not to ask out a girl we both knew. He said that I'm a guy who "wears his heart on his sleeve" and that it wouldn't work out because of that. Well, he was right. But the thing is, I've never had good luck with women (actually that is a massive understatement since I'm a virgin at 27). It seems pretty obvious to me that this could be one reason why. (Most) Women don't want a guy that shows too much emotion, positive or ne… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 08:21 AM |
| 13 | Post with multiple awards dehumanizing men to an insane degreeWhat's with this fixation on women walking alone at night? I've had women treat me like a threat even when tons of people were around, in a lighted area. Which is insane. Because if you're scared of me, something is wrong with you, mentally. I'm 5'8, 150 pounds, and look like a cute little femboy. People tell me I'm a sensitive boi and all that kind of stuff. Yet the way I've been treated, you'd think I'm a hulking bodybuilder or something. That right there proves it isn't really about body size… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 25/08/22 08:08 AM |
| 7 | We're Not Trying To "Hijack The Narrative"I disagree, we are trying destroy their narrative, because their narrative is misandrist drivel. Personally, I would be proud of that fact. Every time someone accuses me of something like this or makes a misandrist remark like "you must be pro women getting raped!" I take it as a victory because that means I just collapsed their entire house of cards and they are lashing out in frustration like a child. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 07:54 AM |
| 2 | Wednesday Addams castrating her brother's bully with a piranha is played for laughs. Sexual violence against teenage boys for minor offences is a despicable thing to laugh at. This should not be featured in a teen rated show aimed at a wide audience.Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the whole point of the Adams Family that they're actually wholesome and nice despite being creepy on the outside? Or at least that they magically somehow don't do any actual harm to anyone because of cartoon logic? This would appear to completely go against that. Like with Captain Marvel, these kinds of psycho "girlboss" characters always seem to end up blowing back on women instead of "punching up" at men. Because the message I'm seeing is that "freaky" goth g… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/08/22 12:01 AM |
| 5 | Why rape laws are/were genderedThus we have this "A person with a brain of an adult but with the accountability of a child" result. More like: "A person with a brain and social power of an adult but with the accountability of a child" result. I'm thinking specifically of false allegations and Me Too, how women can make an accusation and people will chant that they should be believed, but there is no corresponding accountability to go with it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/22 08:48 PM |
| 13 | "Sometimes I wish men disappeared" - Not hateful, says adminFeminism: women are super powerful girl bosses equal to men Also Feminism: men are scary | /r/EverydayMisandry | 20/08/22 05:54 AM |
| 12 | "Sometimes I wish men disappeared" - Not hateful, says adminFeminism: for when you hate men more than you hate totalitarianism. Like seriously, just think about this for a moment. These women are advocating for a totalitarian policy that would control when people are allowed to go outside. Such a government would be 10 times the threat to their liberty than any man could ever be. Oh, and they also mention needing male escorts...what is this, Handmaid's Tale? Do they not see how they are playing into the hands of the real enemies of women, aka conservativ… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 20/08/22 05:49 AM |
| 1 | *Shadow in the Cloud* is a fantastic feminist filmYet when any type of media shows women doing something bad, even if its literally just one woman, and the entire rest of the female cast are stand-up/awesome characters, its "an incel fantasy". Especially if the subject matter deals with false rape accusation or persecution of low class men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/08/22 12:00 AM |
| 3 | The demonization of sexually frustrated menYour last paragraph there is the point of the issue: we need to know how to behave in this world. Not an imaginary feminist utopia, not a conservative 1950s vision of the perfect nuclear family, but this era, this current time, where we exist, and have to navigate these issues of identity and figure out what it means to succeed. What if I don't want to be "told" how to behave to achieve value as a man in this world? What if I think the standards are bullshit and should be changed? Because the an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 07:31 PM |
| 4 | Feminists coplaining about "boys being quirky" is them trying to have their cake and eat it tooI agree 100%. And the reason why society denies that PUA works? If they admit it does work, they'd have to confront the idea that there are some (maybe more) women who have superficial standards and will easily fall for cheap "bad boy" tactics. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Feminists coplaining about "boys being quirky" is them trying to have their cake and eat it tooI think it is basically young boy's reaction to a female-skewed education system in a way - oh, girls are smarter, more rational, and we are the irrational childish ones, so let's embrace being irrational and childish. That's a spot-on interpretation. Similar concept to men embracing the whole "predator" aesthetic. They know they are going to get slapped with that label anyway, so why not embrace it, and revel in the power that comes with it? Thanks for providing the context. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Do we do videos around here? | The Emotional Objectification of MenThe forcefield analogy he used towards the middle of his video intrigued me, and it actually inspired me write a similar comment on another thread, but I thought I would post a slightly edited version here as well since it is relevant to the video. This reminds me of so many conversations I have had with women online. Many of them talk about how they need a "forcefield" of protection against the bad guys out there. And that's fucking great, honestly. I'm glad women have those forcefields, becaus… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 06:48 AM |
| 3 | The demonization of sexually frustrated menAs for the million or thousands of years? We don't even have idea if humanity will be the same or survive to that time period so its not relevant to speculate this far. That's not the point. You asked a theoretical question about knowing that it was impossible. My point was that I don't think we can claim to know that, since given enough time, surely it would happen eventually, no? (Of course, it goes without saying that humanity surviving would be a requirement of that). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 05:22 AM |
| 8 | The demonization of sexually frustrated menI get what you're saying. I'm sorry. I may have felt a bit personally attacked because: The case of a perfectly healthy, perfectly well adjusted but terminally sexless incel, who can't do anything to meaningfully improve is theoretically possible, but is definitely an outlier. is how I'd describe myself. But I see you are accounting for the outliers, so I really should not have reacted that way. I may be a bit sensitive in this matter because "there must be something wrong with you" is a dialogu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 05:19 AM |
| 1 | The demonization of sexually frustrated menMaybe I'm in the minority opinion but when people tell men to "just be themselves", I actually think it is unintentionally good advice. You should be yourself. But not because its going to get you a girlfriend (which is what people giving this advice often seem to imply). But because you should be yourself anyway, even it means not having a girlfriend. And yeah, I don't think becoming more assertive and whatnot contradicts being yourself in any way. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 03:13 AM |
| 2 | The demonization of sexually frustrated menBut there are healthy ways people can work on themselves that also improve their chances of success. For example, I am living proof that confidence is something that can be learnt, as is believing in oneself and becoming more assertive. I'm absolutely in support of things like believing in oneself and becoming more assertive. But that is not magically going to help you get a girlfriend. Plenty of guys already do those things and they have been rejected over and over again. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 03:05 AM |
| 10 | The demonization of sexually frustrated menHere is a question, what if they simply don't care that hypergamy is not compatible with Modern liberal values? Then deep down they do not really believe in modern liberal values and they are misogynists. If not explicitly, then by proxy, since under misogyny then that is the only way their beliefs make sense. Or what if you can't get rid of Hypergamy no matter all the talk about this? Then that would make me extremely depressed. The human species is a lot more contemptable an ill-deserving of s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 03:02 AM |
| 3 | Feminists coplaining about "boys being quirky" is them trying to have their cake and eat it too"Boys are quirky" sounds like exactly the opposite of making women boring. In my experience, not being quirky is a good thing. It doesn't mean you're "boring", it just means you are normal, not weird, not a freak. "Quirky" is often just a nice way of saying "weird", "creepy", etc. which are typical insults that get thrown at men who deviate from a very specific gender norm. Personally, I like quirky people. Quirks are what make people interesting. There is nothing more boring to me than sitting … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 02:56 AM |
| 6 | The demonization of sexually frustrated menYou could flip that around, and say that by focusing on pragmatism, the ideals will never come to fruition. I don't think that telling men that if they're gnc, they should pretend not to be (which is what it sounds like you're implying, correct me if I'm wrong). It isn't worth it to pretend to be something you're not, and hate yourself, just to get a girlfriend. Better to be yourself and be alone. Maybe in the short term it would work but I imagine that in the long run, you won't really value yo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 02:49 AM |
| 16 | The demonization of sexually frustrated menExactly. And that's how we end up with a lot of mixed messaging, confusion, and contradiction. Which is a huge part of the problem, in my opinion. Ok, but you do not solve that confusion by offering up a single "objective" answer. A real man decides for himself what he wants to be. Sure. But they are severely limiting their dating pool. And that is something we need to be honest about too. Fair enough. As I said in that post about feeling alienated from gender roles, I get that it makes me attra… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 02:21 AM |
| 7 | The demonization of sexually frustrated menThe other explanation ("women are too picky") is both a strategic and logical minefield. Most men are not, in fact, incels. I think A LOT more men are "incel" than anyone realizes or would be comfortable admitting, including themselves. (Assuming we go by the literal definition, and not blackpill). It also depends greatly how you define "incel". Guys that have never had sex? Guys that haven't had sex in 5 years? etc. It can be quite subjective. But really, the question of whether or not most men… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 02:14 AM |
| 16 | The demonization of sexually frustrated menI asked that question because its a reasonable question to ask. A lot of different groups have different ideas about what a "man" is, and it oftentimes comes down to subjective and gender essentialist crap like "real men drink dark beer" or "real men pay for dates". And apart from the dating and sex dynamic, what makes a man a man and no longer a boy? What personality traits and behaviors should be encouraged in boys as they grow into adults? Responsibility? Maturity? etc. The problem is, those … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 01:28 AM |
| 11 | The demonization of sexually frustrated menWhat do you mean by "be a man"? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 12:56 AM |
| 5 | Why we insist on rule 6 and using wording that explicitly allows for exceptionsI think part of the problem is that a lot of us don't have great women in our lives who aren't older relatives. In my case I have no sisters or female cousins whatsoever, and have never had a girlfriend. But when I'm talking about gender war stuff, I'm not talking about their generation. I don't think a lot of mothers, aunts, grandmothers, etc. are radical third wave feminists. But maybe that's beside the point. Maybe we should be thinking about our ideal partner who might be out there somewhere… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Why we insist on rule 6 and using wording that explicitly allows for exceptionsI'd be lying if I said I haven't, at times, felt frustration against the mods. But ultimately I realize you're correct and just trying to protect us. It comes down to semantics more than anything else. Looking back at my own comments that have been removed, there are times I did say "most" and things like that in one paragraph, but didn't keep that consistent through the whole body of text, using "they" and other shorthand in later paragraphs. Is that annoying? Yeah. But I get where you're comin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/22 11:55 PM |
| 19 | The demonization of sexually frustrated menI don't know about that. I don't have the stats on hand but I could swear reading that lesbians have the least sex of all the couple-types. straight women > gay men > lesbian women > straight men ( in terms of easiest access to sex) By all accounts though, gay men are the ones who have beaten the system. Those same stats also show they supposedly have lower rates of domestic violence, higher rates of happiness, less divorce, etc. than every other group including straight couples. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/22 11:39 PM |
| 13 | The demonization of sexually frustrated menAdmittedly, I'm looking at this from the perspective of someone who is more romantic-oriented. I'm not built for hookups I'm the same way. Never been called gay for it, but when I posted about this on a fairly mainstream sub saying something like "I honestly don't know if I could agree to a random hookup even if an insanely hot woman propositioned me", the reactions went something like this: "You fucking liar, you're just saying that to make it seem like your conservative double standards for wo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/22 11:34 PM |
| 39 | The demonization of sexually frustrated menI think the question society needs to ask itself is "why do most women not want these guys?" The feminist/mainstream/gynocentric answer is "well its because these guys are all complete trash". Which is not only deeply misandrist but also plainly against reality itself. I mean seriously? There are really that many creeps and entitled rapists? Even if I wasn't one of those guys who gets called those things even though he KNOWS he isn't one of them, I would still find this claim hard to believe. Th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/22 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Loneliness and the EconomyI live in the California in the U.S. and the average one-bedroom apartment here is like 2.2k a month, which is about how much I make, so no room for living expenses. If I get lucky I could find a cheap ass coffin apartment or an apartment in a bad neighborhood for 1.5k a month. But even then, I would be saving very little money for the future. That is why I and other people I know still live/moved back in with their parents. Its starting to become not an embarrassing thing anymore because of the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/22 11:03 PM |
| 2 | There is more to incels than just "entitlement"What is amazing to me is how 99% of society, especially young, modern women are not able to differentiate between those two groups you described. Exactly. This reminds me of so many conversations I have had with women online. Many of them talk about how they need a "forcefield" of protection against the bad guys out there. And that's fucking great, honestly. I'm glad women have forcefields, because they need them. The problem is why the forcefield goes up against 100% of guys, instead of just th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/22 10:53 PM |
| 5 | "How To Spot a Dangerous Man Before You Get Involved"I'd be interested in checking the book out to see what it says first before making any judgements. Who knows, maybe its going to give actual good advice. Granted, in today's climate, it is most likely going to demonize shy/nerdy/non-traditional men whilst ignoring genuine f*ckboi behavoir. But I guess I like to hold out hope that one day something will be different, and the title is not inherently misandrist. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 16/08/22 04:29 AM |
| 9 | Feminist FascismI can't same I'm surprised. Feminists must have a fetish or something for biting that hand that tries to feed them. I mean seriously, here you are saying you actually AGREE with them, and that you don't like the term, and they banned you. I guess because you pointed out that other countries do use it, I guess? You're just supplying factual information at that point. If you ever get another chance, post a dictionary definition and see if they ban you for that. It would be a fun experiment. My mon… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/22 03:22 AM |
| 15 | Loneliness and the EconomyEmotionally immature...is that what you call it when the dominant mainstream narrative demonizes us? Yeah, men are constantly attacked, told that we're garbage, etc. but the reason we're alone doesn't have anything to do with that, it's because we're emotionally immature. I love how these Tradcon boomers sit on their high horses and talk about how weak men are today. Even though they themselves had it the easiest of any society. They played life on easy mode and could afford houses just by worki… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/22 03:15 AM |
| 10 | What are good "comfort characters" for men?My icon is Hikigaya Hachiman from Oregairu. That may seem like a weird choice since he is basically the penultimate "incel" archetype (I'm talking about true involuntarily celibate, not blackpill). I.E. lonely, depressed, hated by everyone, no romantic prospects. The reason I like the character so much is that instead of portraying all this as a negative thing, the show actually makes him sympathetic. At first you think he is just a cynical asshole who deserves his situation, but you begin to sl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/22 07:23 AM |
| 20 | What are good "comfort characters" for men?I'm a big Batman fan, but I'll be honest, its not because I find him a relatable character. He is 6 foot+ super athlete billionaire, the literal epitome of "Chad". Normally that would be the formula for a character I hate. The reason I like Batman is because in universe, he is an underdog with no special powers aside from intellect and will, a man standing amongst (and against) gods. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/22 07:03 AM |
| 4 | The Social Stigma of Loneliness: Effect of Target Person's and Perceiver's SexI love it when science validates stuff we all pretty much knew. | /r/Male_Studies | 12/08/22 06:26 PM |
| 22 | Is this some kind of projection (more in comments)Yeah, I think there are a lot of mental gymnastics going on here. You have women in their late 20's and early 30's realizing that they passed up all the good guys for the goons. They're seriously regretting the fact that they had their first sexual/romantic experiences, things that are supposed to be precious memories, with bad boys that didn't deserve them. They feel "ruined" and wasted their youth in a way. But because a lot of guys are angry (rightly so) about being passed up on for years onl… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 12/08/22 07:36 AM |
| 7 | Data that claims to debunk redpill dialog on dating. ThoughtsWhat I see around me is: women complaining about having (had) the wrong man Exactly. And when those specific women have had the wrong partner its always somehow caused by patriarchy/men being evil, women oppressed, and where have all the good men gone even though I ignored droves of them until now, etc. Weird how that works. I'm not saying female loneliness is *always* this way, but I'd wager its the main cause. So they are either deliberately swearing off men after getting burned, or have too h… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/08/22 06:51 AM |
| 19 | Data that claims to debunk redpill dialog on dating. ThoughtsI’m disappointed the study didn’t look at the reasons why the respondents were sexless, even if self reported. I suspect they are very different based on gender. For example, I think it’s probable that a lot of mens’ answers would be “I tried and tried but just kept getting rejected” but a lot of woman’s would be “I can’t find a good enough man”. So it still relates back to female standards and advantage in the dating world, which is the real issue here. Also, let’s not forget that the effects o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/08/22 08:04 AM |
| 1 | Why is Tik-tok so misandrist?Its a brain-rotting app for children with low attention spans. Its a breeding ground of idiocy, just like most social media (including reddit, though to a much lesser extent IMO). Where idiocy thrives, hate will as well. Because senseless hate is ultimately the same...idiotic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/22 05:31 AM |
| 3 | How the trans community destroyed feminismThat's the wider downfall of ALL these identity politics. By definition, the various minorities and sub-groups must eventually come into conflict for one another as they compete for victim points. Within the framework, feminist women are to transgender people as what they claim men are to women: oppressors/a more privileged group. So to cover that up, they need to use mental gymnastics to create perceived failings of the group that's even lower than them to explain why the their (the first) grou… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/22 05:26 AM |
| 11 | Do You Dislike The Term "Men's Rights?"I don't have an issue with the "men" part, but rather the "rights" part. If you want to talk about divorce law, right to opt out of parentage (financial abortion), right to not be drafted, etc. then that's fine, it fits. But a lot of the other stuff we talk about on this sub doesn't have to do with a concrete right that could be written into law. Its more gender war stuff. I.E. "I would like to not be seen as an inherent threat and creep" is not really a right that a government can guarantee. It… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/22 05:15 AM |
| 1 | insults and compliments directed towards menThe section on demonizing women is very brief/vague and so I'm not sure it helps very much. It just says to not say stuff like "All women are like that", which is pretty far from what I said, no? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/22 05:05 AM |
| 2 | insults and compliments directed towards menAlright, I have edited the comment, but in my opinion it should have been very clear that I was not generalizing all women. I get that the mods want to avoid any chance of intentional misunderstandings that might be used by enemies of the sub, but it will also become very linguistically cumbersome to have to say “those specific women” or something like that every single time the pronoun “they” would normally be used. EDIT: Maybe we need an official guideline of how to phrase things? It sounds a … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/08/22 08:01 AM |
| 4 | insults and compliments directed towards menI’m just putting the truth very bluntly, and if people find that unpalatable, it’s because the ideas I’m describing are what’s really unpalatable, and that should concern them more. I agree with you completely. As a guy who isn’t very traditionally masculine appearance-wise or personality-wise, it’s very frustrating to constantly hear feminists talk about toxic masculinity. A) being loving towards women and being manly is not mutually exclusive and B) even if that were true, it’s not as if femin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/08/22 07:52 AM |
| 6 | insults and compliments directed towards menFeminists: "Real men are super badass alpha chads who don't complain about anything and fight against the system." Also Feminists: "Be a good doggy and think exactly how we tell you." The standards are impossible, and it reveals their own cognitive dissonance about what they want. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/08/22 06:41 AM |
| 5 | insults and compliments directed towards menGynocentric types will often claim it is only men doing this, and I admit its true that you usually only see other men talking about "real men" and all that. But that is only because when women do it, it is usually done in a much subtler way. You hit the nail on the head when you said "loser, incel, soyboy, neckbeard, creep,"...those are code words those specific women use to describe a "not real man". Despite paying lip service to the idea that men's value should not be based so much on sex, in… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/08/22 06:34 AM |
| 15 | where do artistic men fit in all of thisArtistic, even emotional and sensitive men used to be considered very manly. If anything, it’s the more thug-like, anti-intellectual version of contemporary masculinity that is a social construct. One of the biggest gigachads of all time was Lord Byron, a romantic-era poet. The literary trope of the byronic hero was literally named after him. At the same time, Mary Shelly once wrote a letter expressing her concern to one of her friends that Byron was partying so hard and having so much sex that … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/08/22 04:16 AM |
| 2 | I feel like homophobia is often co-opted by women when they claim that it’s just misogyny.It’s both misogyny AND misandry. Misogyny because by making “being like a woman” a negative thing, you are denigrating women. Misandry because you are limiting male expression and identity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/08/22 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Putting Women In Charge Is Not The Way To Make The World Better“The title is saying: [women should not make up 100% of governance]. That is not the same thing as saying [0% of women should make up governance.] Negation of one claim does not equivocate to a positive claim of the opposite. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/08/22 04:07 AM |
| 27 | There is more to incels than just "entitlement"Bad Incels: “Fuck foids and chads” Good Incels: “Hey it would be nice if I could get a girlfriend and I don’t think I’m completely trash so why is it so hard?” Feminist Response to Both: “Oh so you’re saying rape should be legal and men should be assigned wife slaves by the government?!!?” The response is disproportionate, and it is directed at the wrong people. Yes, there are entitled incels, but there are also a lot that did nothing wrong. It is perfect legit to be an “incel” and not have any … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/08/22 04:03 AM |
| 2 | Thoughts on the phrase “not all men” and more specifically the general reaction to it?My response to fellow guys who say "yes, all men" (and/or go after other men for saying "no, not all men") is to call them a rapist. After all, isn't that basically what they just admitted? So they should have no problem tattooing "rapist" all over their body so that any woman that sees them can run away, thereby ensuring they live loveless, alone and hated for the rest of their lives. If one of these guys did THAT, maybe I would start to take them seriously. Another thing I like to say is "yes,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/07/22 10:23 PM |
| 3 | what do you think of MRAs saying the problem is unmasculine men?Seems like sexism to me. Why are they associating femininity to being abusive? In other words, it sounds like they're establishing some sort of "toxic femininity", and then comparing the "unmasculine men" to the angry, toxic feminists that exemplify that kind of femininity. I've seen a lot of traditionalists say stuff like this, where its almost like they think that the reason women turn bitter and misandrist is because they resent men for being weak and try to "provoke them" into being tough ag… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/07/22 10:13 PM |
| 3 | My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother revealsYou're absolutely right, I don't want to create that kind of horrific situation either. Just to be clear, I'm not saying we should automatically take unproved accusation to mean false. I guess where we got on different tracks was your use of the word "proof". Yeah, in this case, they probably can't "prove" objectively that the allegations were false (i.e. some kind of scientific test), but then again, real rape cases often can't be "proven" either. In this case though I think it is patently obvi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/07/22 10:03 PM |
| 5 | My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother revealsOkay so you're telling me it'd be ok if a woman made a false allegation against you right now and ruined your life, and went unpunished because "hey, they're just dismissing the case due to lack of evidence, they didn't prove it was false." What's to stop any woman from filing multiple rape allegations against every guy she didn't like? There needs to be some kind of deterrent. And the punishment should always be at least as proportional to the harm caused. Simply put: if filing false accusation… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/07/22 07:16 AM |
| 10 | My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother revealsThat's just it, the topless photo was proof for them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/22 09:42 AM |
| 35 | My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother revealsShe should have been worse than expelled. All the bullies that went after him should have been expelled. But the girl that actually made the false accusation should be expelled and get attempted murder, considering he could have died from this (either suicide or by vigilante). At the very least she deserves some kind of punishment for ruining his life and causing him mental anguish. Lets say 10 years in jail. Either that or she should be wrecked financially and have to pay damages. Maybe she'll … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/22 08:04 AM |
| 7 | My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother revealsI just looked up nonce, and apparently it means pedophile. First of all, pedophilia is attraction to pre-pubescent children. Secondly, the girl was his own age anyway. Like, I can understand why people would call him a rapist (from the point of view of their fucked up logic and evil political agendas), but a pedophile just straight up makes no sense. That right there shows the intent was malicious and to cause as much harm as possible. And yeah, the people leading the charge are often the most g… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/22 07:56 AM |
| 16 | My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother revealsI think it's pretty clear she wasn't totally taking the girls side and was in fact saying how toxic that mentality is. That bit at the end there? She's just saying that maybe her son did do something that could be construed as a little too forceful. Like, I'm sure plenty of boys make remarks that accidentally sound too forward and sexual when they're trying out flirting for the first time, for example. I remember doing something like that myself, but luckily I wasn't Me Too'd for it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/22 07:44 AM |
| 14 | Received a response from the Advertising Standards Authority re. EE's 'Stop Sexist Hate' Ad CampaignThis is the same bit of cute little sophistry that all gynocentrists seem to play. Step 1: "Acknowledge" that it goes both ways and "notallmen" Step 2: Claim that doesn't matter because "you're just focusing on female victims right now" Step 3: Continue ONLY producing content about men hurting women Step 4: If people have an issue with that, claim THEY are the hateful ones Step 5: Advocate policies/ideologies that comply with yesallmen even though you denied that in step 1 Its absurd. Everyone w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/22 07:04 AM |
| 5 | "Reforming masculinity" is a modern version of conversion therapy and should be seen as equally unscientific and backwardsIt would be like taking negative attributes typical of 'mean girl' high school bullies (manipulativeness, vindictiveness, entitlement, narcissism, victim complex etc) and calling it 'femininity' and then saying women need to reform their toxic femininity. You mean "AWALT"? This is exactly what elements of the manosphere already do and they are widely hated for it. So its not as if people are incapable of recognizing how shitty this is, they care very much when its happening to them, but they see… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/22 06:50 AM |
| 12 | "Reforming masculinity" is a modern version of conversion therapy and should be seen as equally unscientific and backwardsThe truly baffling thing is that its not as if anyone (feminist, APA, etc.) would say “risk,” “achievement,” “adventure,” and “success, power, and competition” is something that should be discouraged for women. In fact, if you suggested it, then they would probably say that thinking so is an example of toxic masculinity itself and that you're "just trying to keep women in the kitchen". So what it comes out to is basically: Men having masculine traits = bad Women having masculine traits = good I … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/22 06:41 AM |
| 8 | Why are unsolicited dick picks seen as such a big deal? Perspective of a not 100% straight guyI am a straight guy and have also never gotten one, so take this with a grain of salt, but I kind of agree with you. Anyone that watches porn (even straight porn) sees dicks regularly or even male nudity in movies. Its not really a big deal and I feel like my sexuality is strong enough that I can handle it without freaking out. Did I particularly want to see that? No. But its not the end of the world either. For women who actually are attracted to men I imagine its an even easier experience. Tha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/22 12:08 AM |
| 3 | Would there be interest in a book club?I like this idea because it would serve as an actual push that would get me (and I presume others) to actually start reading a lot of the stuff that is commonly mentioned on here. I keep telling myself "Why even do it, I already know all the talking points about it anyway" but I think actually reading them would be beneficial as well. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/22 11:51 PM |
| 3 | I believe I've finally found the language to describe one of the privileges I've always felt that women have over men...No true Scottsman. Understand that the affection you want to receive and what passes for affection that women do receive too much of are very much dissimilar. You're acting like the stalkerish attention is the only one women get though... Yes, I'm using hyperbole to intensify the example in order to make the issues stand out more clearly. No, your hyperbole blows the issue way out of proportion and twists it to an absurd length that makes you correct, instead of addressing the actual point. This… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/22 07:33 AM |
| 1 | Should we make erections normal?I don't think that saying "normal" is the right descriptor for their ideal status in society. I mean, there are some situations where an erection is definitely not appropriate. Same goes for the female anatomy stuff, too. I can see how either an erection or hard nipples would distract/bother people. Do I think that person is a piece of shit because of it? No, shit happens. But it would be shitty if female office workers had to just accept that Dave from IT says hello to them every morning with a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/22 05:10 AM |
| 2 | How to I explain in a cogent way that the dua lipa song “boys will be boys” is counter productive in it’s overwhelming sexism.I always hated it because (at least in my experience) it was used in a more Trumpian-esque way. I.E. "boys will be boys" used to mean "boys will grope/be inappropriate with women and there is nothing we can do about it". Which sucks because not only is it obviously bad to encourage sexual harassment, but also because it slaps me with a sort of "guilt by association" even though I never acted that way. But you're right, there is that other level of it too, which also presents the same problem. I.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/22 05:01 AM |
| 4 | I believe I've finally found the language to describe one of the privileges I've always felt that women have over men...Women don't have access to a buffet of options when it comes to love; they have a buffet of options of guys to sleep with, and they have to sort though all of those to find one who will actually care for them beyond what sexual gratification they can provide. Not all women have to do that though. Lets not forget there are plenty of women who are content to get one night stands. But in the spirit of your point: of course they have to sort through the options. That is what anyone would have to do.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/22 04:56 AM |
| 3 | I believe I've finally found the language to describe one of the privileges I've always felt that women have over men...Well, there is something you misunderstand about human relationships if you mistake affection and/or attention with the fungibility of currency. The point in comparing affection to currency is not that they're both fungible, but that they're both necessary for a happy life, and the "haves" are objectively better off than the "have nots". Stalkers are affectionate. Griefers slather their targets with attention. I'd argue that stalkers and griefers are not truly affectionate because true affection… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/22 04:47 AM |
| 4 | I believe I've finally found the language to describe one of the privileges I've always felt that women have over men...In the context of that paragraph, I was explaining how the other side frames the issue. To be fair, I could have put that in air quotes to make it extremely obvious. I’ll make that edit if you believe it would help. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/22 04:29 AM |
| 8 | I believe I've finally found the language to describe one of the privileges I've always felt that women have over men...You misunderstand. I'm not talking only about sex; especially the meaningless/hookup kind. I'm actually the last guy who would fault women for not wanting meaningless sex since I'm a guy who most likely wouldn't feel comfortable with hookups either. In fact I would admire women who feel the same. Or at least, I'm not talking ONLY about sex. I'm talking about everything: love, affection, support lines, attention, ego-boosting from knowing people are attracted to you, etc. It just seems unfair to … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/22 11:25 PM |
| 7 | I believe I've finally found the language to describe one of the privileges I've always felt that women have over men...Thanks for understanding. Right about now is the time I'd normally get called a misogynist and blown off. I kind of get what you mean about it not being possible to have a meaningful conversation. Yeah, I get that there is such a thing as too much of a good thing. But its extremely hard for me to understand what its like for women because I just genuinely can't believe that getting approached is frequent as they sometimes make it seem. I've pretty much given up on dating for the past four years.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/22 09:20 AM |
| 5 | How to I explain in a cogent way that the dua lipa song “boys will be boys” is counter productive in it’s overwhelming sexism.I thought feminism hated the "boys will be boys" phrase for how it seemingly justifies boys doing inappropriate behavior (understandably). They are actually defending that statement now? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/22 08:34 AM |
| 3 | Google search trends point out Men's rights activism is more prevalent in blue states, than red states, yet the running trope of MRAs being angry reactionaries continues to defame our image, how do you feel about this?A lot of people here in the U.S. use "left" to mean "liberal" and "right" to mean "conservative". The definitions you're using are actually the correct ones; left vs. right is a matter of economic theory and is a completely separate axis than authoritarian vs liberal. But most Americans don't get this because our politics have become so confused by the popular "left" trying to pretend as though they're liberal when they're really authoritarians. And they also don't know about the political align… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/22 08:30 AM |
| 3 | Google search trends point out Men's rights activism is more prevalent in blue states, than red states, yet the running trope of MRAs being angry reactionaries continues to defame our image, how do you feel about this?It actually makes perfect sense. The conservative/right wing point of view would be that they don't need something like MRA. They could never admit to having problems because that would be admitting weakness and they're an "alpha male" who doesn't have any. Any problem MRA would seek to address their ideology would somehow turn into a positive. Expected to be provide/protect? Oh well that just makes me a "real man". Etc. Of course the problem is that American politics are becoming so extremist a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/22 08:24 AM |
| 5 | I believe I've finally found the language to describe one of the privileges I've always felt that women have over men...Look, I'm not saying that women are given a free pass to be an ice queen any time they want with zero consequences. There are times where its objectively not appropriate to do so, like work interviews. (That applies to men too). And look, I totally get why women get pissed at guys who tell women to smile. That's a fucking shitty thing for men to do to women. They are not entitled to seeing her smile if she doesn't want to. Sorry if it wasn't clear, but what I'm mainly talking about is rejection.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/22 08:11 AM |
| 3 | I believe I've finally found the language to describe one of the privileges I've always felt that women have over men...The problem is that the "thirstiness" is very much a real problem. But "drowning" in affection and attention is like complaining you have too much money. So no, they are not equal because they both do not have equal physical reality. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/22 07:52 AM |
| 3 | I believe I've finally found the language to describe one of the privileges I've always felt that women have over men...That's actually a really great point that I forgot to touch on in my post. It would be one thing if this "ice shield" actually made sense and was effective, buts its not. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/22 06:16 AM |
| 9 | I believe I've finally found the language to describe one of the privileges I've always felt that women have over men...And even outside of this setting, there is this very real pressure to « be shinny and smiley » to get what you want. Cold women really scolded, unless they are able to sexualise it which is not always the case depending on their ethos and attractiveness. I don't see that at all. Every time I've spoken about this subject I've been served up the argument I outlined in my post: "Oh, they just have to be that way to protect themselves." or "If they were being cold to you, then you probably did somet… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/22 06:11 AM |
| 5 | I believe I've finally found the language to describe one of the privileges I've always felt that women have over men...That's a good question. Obviously, there is a time and a place to be icy. If a guy is being legitimately harassing to a woman, being icy towards him is completely understandable. The problem is when this iciness becomes an automatic response used discriminately. And then when people defend that with the reprehensible "bowel of M&Ms" analogy. "If 1 out of every 10 M&M's was poisonous, would you eat them?" In other words, arguing that women need to be icy to every man on the off chance he's danger… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/22 05:59 AM |
| 2 | Men's Struggles with Valuing OurselvesSpeaking of tumors, how about mobile gaming? Those gacha games filled with mindless busywork and microtransactions? Companies are now investing billions of dollars into that shit because they know the masses will eat it up. Instead of investing that money in to full-on PC/console games. It was this that first showed me the truth of the adage "art cannot survive under capitalism". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/07/22 08:19 AM |
| 9 | I am tired of men being treated as means to ends instead of as ends in themselves (in contravention of Kantian ethics)You could say that about male and female clothing in general. Female clothing is designed to reveal, while male clothing is designed to conceal. Funnily enough, I'm the type of guy who would rather wear a dress than a suit. I'm sure that experience is not typical of most men, but you see the point. Male clothing could be much more expressive and varied while remaining within the confines of what we currently consider masculine. I.E. more colors and softer fabrics and such. Well I guess that does… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/07/22 08:16 AM |
| 21 | I am tired of men being treated as means to ends instead of as ends in themselves (in contravention of Kantian ethics)The strangest part is that the same people that are complaining about “fat acceptance” and saying it’s transphobia if a straight guy doesn’t want a woman with a dick. You would think they would celebrate when guys actually do want that, but it’s the opposite. This proves it’s not really about sticking up for fat women, trans women, etc. They just want to shit on men no matter what and make us out to be villains. It seems to me like the fact that they even call it a fetish seems to imply they rec… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/22 11:32 PM |
| 5 | Men's Struggles with Valuing OurselvesThat was a great comment but I just wanted to expand on 2 things. People wonder why there are is so much disbelief regarding "gamer girls" and I think you did a good job explaining that. But I also wanted to point out there is hostility directed their way as well and not all of it is totally undeserved. For example, there are a lot of fake "gamer girls" that are all like "gosh lmao I'm so nerdy ;)" and when you ask them what they play its like "Oh, I play Minecraft and Call of Duty". Ok...so bas… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/22 10:17 PM |
| 53 | I am tired of men being treated as means to ends instead of as ends in themselves (in contravention of Kantian ethics)I think this is an example of convergent thinking because I described the situation almost exactly the same way when I made a post on a different sub about the brutality of the pursuer/pursued dynamic in heterosexual dating. I think that's one of the easiest places to see it. Men are expected to pursue/woo/initiate romance with women. And make no mistake: this is because the entire romantic process is an audition, and men are not the judges. Women are. Men are the performers. In other words, WE … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/22 10:00 PM |
| 3 | Got banned from the Unpopular Opinion sub for posting this. Haha! Always a one-sided issue, pathetic.Reminds me of when I got banned from a subreddit for “misgendering/transphobia” even though I was actually sticking up for a trans person. They didn’t look at the context. I had called her “him” (with air quotes) to point out the TERF-like way another group thinks, but apparently that counts. The kicker is this was all hypothetical anyway and not in regards to any real person. So apparently misgendering a theoretical person who doesn’t exist to satire a transphobic group is transphobia. What a w… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 22/07/22 08:12 PM |
| 9 | Men's Struggles with Valuing OurselvesKind of random but this post really reminds me of an incident that happened semi-recently at a family event. Several older men were questioning me on my love life (basically, the fact of me being an "incel"--though of course they did not know that term). One of the advice they tried to give me basically went along the lines of "you need to fake being interesting because men aren't really interesting on our own". That line left me speechless. At the time I didn't really know how to respond but yo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/22 07:12 AM |
| 5 | Inceldom and capitalism: Is there a connection?Capitalism exploits inceldom for profit for sure. But it didn’t cause inceldom. There were probably cavemen who couldn’t get any partners because they all wanted to be with Thag the barbarian king even if that meant competing with other women harem style. I suppose you can argue capitalism made it worse, though. The advent of phones, large cities, and transportation gave women vastly more options which of course feeds hypergamy. In turn creating more desperate men they can sell sex bots, dating … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/22 07:05 AM |
| 1 | Two years for a false accusationThe problem with that you’re saying is that it’s based on consequentialism. Our laws aren’t based on the harm caused. They’re based on an objective standard. I’m not aware of any courts that take into consideration the harm caused by someone. For example if I do something extremely dangerous like fire a gun while spinning around randomly in a public place, I’ll still be arrested even if all of my bullets somehow missed people. If I happen to hit someone and they die, I’ll be charged for that, bu… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 21/07/22 12:44 AM |
| 39 | Help me understand rhetoric surrounding men emotionally "opening up"They are interjecting fake nuance into the conversation that isn’t really there. Either you want men to open up or not. It’s pretty straightforward, no? But this is how feminism is. A never ending chain of one talking point to cover up the holes in another talking point and so on and so on ad infinitum. That is why they eventually fall back on “academic” feminism. Unless you’ve read fifteen 300 page feminist manifesto papers you’re “not educated on the subject”. It’s all a trick so that no matte… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/22 12:31 AM |
| 14 | How Come I Never Hear Men Complain About Getting Fetishized?“Fetishizing” is often just a code word for “objectifying” only when it’s a minority group. In other words it’s just like the whole intersectionality thing that woke people are always going on about. It’s not bad enough that men being attracted to women is bad, if they’re attracted to non white women, it has to be even worse. Oppression olympics. Ironically though, these idiots don’t even understand the actual definition of fetish. “Fetish” is an attraction to a nonhuman object. So by calling at… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 20/07/22 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone noticed men being held to a higher standard when it comes to consumer culture?There always seemed to be a lot of women in his videos. Though I admit I stopped paying attention to him after drunken peasants stopped following him. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/07/22 12:00 AM |
| 1 | What Do You Think Of These Two Anti-TRP (Documentary) Videos?You’re right, I jumped to conclusions.I completely forgot the other use of “the red pill exists”. Maybe I’ve spent too much time on reddit. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/07/22 04:33 PM |
| 3 | Is "Respect Women" Sexist?My policy is that I respect anyone by default until they prove they’re not worthy of it. Just because Amber Heard exists doesn’t mean all women are like that. Even if you think 99% are like that, if there is even a chance of meeting one who is not then you should give them the benefit of the doubt. Respect women isn’t any less true than respect men simply because people say the latter and not the former. However I do think it’s funny that people always say respect women but yet the guys who actu… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 19/07/22 07:05 AM |
| 1 | What Do You Think Of These Two Anti-TRP (Documentary) Videos?Haven’t watched the video yet but I’ve learned a lot about red pill. For the life of me I can’t understand why anyone would defend it. If you agree blackpill (aka the bad incels) is bad, then why would you support red pill? Blackpill: Here’s how the system works but you can’t abuse the loopholes to get women because you’re not chad Redpill: Here’s how to become chad and abuse the system It’s like the difference between hanging someone a loaded gun and handing someone gun with no firing pin. I ge… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/07/22 06:57 AM |
| -5 | Anecdotal job discrimination. Is it a large scale problem?Why would anyone hire a man when you know that employee could get destroyed at any moment by a false allegation and you’d have to let them go even if you believe their side of the story? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/07/22 09:03 AM |
| 2 | Women currently make up ~28% of the US Congress. Do you think things would be better if their representation were more proportional to population?It would be interesting to see what kind of mental gymnastics people would have to perform to explain why it’s still men’s fault for everything. I have a feeling the patriarchy argument would get warped into something ridiculous like “the female congress members don’t hold any real power they’re probably just being puppetted by the men”. In other words, feminism would be going full Alex Jones and start screaming about a shadow illuminati patriarchy instead of the open one. As if the conspirators… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/07/22 08:58 AM |
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