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| 72 | Dont insult me with pop psychology telling me the patriarchy is to blame for my issues based on your privileged feminist viewpoint, it's my mistakes and my mentally ill mum | Social Issues | Bojack35 | /r/MensRights | 19/05/20 06:13 PM |
| 64 | My car broke down & AA said they can't prioritise lone women as 'it's equality' | Discrimination | Bojack35 | /r/MensRights | 26/01/22 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Banned from r/offmychest just for commenting on this sub! Anyone else had this? | Anti-MRM | Bojack35 | /r/MensRights | 16/04/21 07:47 PM |
| 0 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop! | General | Bojack35 | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 06:38 PM |
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| 1 | UK: Cat-calls and wolf-whistles in the street will be met with fines of £1,000 under a new Labour council scheme to protect women and girlsOf course there is an effect, who said it had to be physical? Feeling intimidated, threatened is a direct effect. You can dismiss that as hurt feelings, but if I followed you around all day insulting you would have an issue with it. Me saying my freedom of speech wins over your feelings would not change the fact I was harassing you. If you think my right to harass you is more important than your right to a peaceful existence that's fine. But admit that is what you are arguing for. Freedom of spe… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/24 11:57 PM |
| 0 | UK: Cat-calls and wolf-whistles in the street will be met with fines of £1,000 under a new Labour council scheme to protect women and girlsNope. Our rights are limited by the effects of our actions on others. I cannot blast music at 3am. Because my right to do so is limited by the effect on others and their right to peaceful enjoyment of their home. Criminalizing cat calling is limiting your actions by the effect on others. They have a right not to be harassed, that conflicts with your right to expression. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/24 01:06 PM |
| 19 | Apprently an old friend no longer wishes to have anything to do with me because I’m a man. Honestly infuriating.Seems she interpreted it as interest in more than friendship. Obviously we all lack the context you know on the friendship to date. But my read is that she took the offer to buy a drink as a date suggestion more than a friend situation. The general point that it is far less likely a man (having just gone through a break up it seems?) would say he doesnt want anything to do with women stands. Equally, that man is probably receiving less unwanted new attention from women than a newly single woman … | /r/MensRights | 02/11/24 12:06 AM |
| -2 | What are your thoughts on the “mental load” debate?It absolutely is a valid concept. It is tiring always having to plan everything. However, there are a lot of examples where it is debatable if the planning is necessary. There are some things that women care about more than men do, so it would be right to say that if they didnt organise it then it wouldnt happen. But it's also right to say thet the man would not care if it didnt happen, or would he happy to do it on the fly rather than pre plan it. So in those cases the women is taking on a job … | /r/MensRights | 04/08/24 05:25 PM |
| 3 | mens rights activism opinion pollHonestly I think if you want institutional help then there is going to be some level of corruption, like with anything. Anything that involves collecting or allocating resources can and to some extent will be corrupt. That's humanity for you. | /r/MensRights | 07/07/24 11:51 AM |
| 6 | mens rights activism opinion pollYes, outside of marriage/ some other restriction. While I overall support the idea, a major concern is couples using it to exploit welfare. There is a difference between one night stand mum wants to keep dad doesn't and couple have kid, realise they are better off financially pretending dad wants nothing to do with it so scam taxpayers with the bonus that dad has no parental rights if they do break up. I dont know the solution but there needs to be some thought on that side with legislation. Abo… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/24 11:41 AM |
| 2 | Hysterics for Hamas: Why have young women been so prominent in the recent campus chaos?Bruh. Let's use Western ethical principles! To make it fair! So let's really assess the societal harms. Then completely ignores western ethical principles of freedom of choice, individuality, not discriminating based on sexuality etc. I dont know about the US, but the UK literally has 'british values' as official government policy that include individual liberty, mutual respect and tolerance. Even if we accept your premise of what are relatively minor negative consequences, the overriding import… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/24 03:01 PM |
| 34 | I was raised as a feminist and the misandry that was indoctrinated into my head has made me dislike being a man.Yeh divorced parents demonising the child that reminds them of their ex is a common issue. 'You are being just like your dad, hit me like he did!' 'You wouldn't question me if I was a man' etc. Were common go tos for my mum. With there being more single mums than single dads and the media being more positive about women and less about men, young boys are particularly vulnerable to 'man bad'. Then end up struggling with identity and resenting both parents for different reasons. Had a similar jour… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/24 09:21 PM |
| 3 | Consent, only for women ?Sex doesn't have to be included, as you say some people are happy without it. But most people want it to be part of their relationship and are allowed to walk away if it's not. You can find compromises but nobody has to agree to compromise. If I work night shifts and my partner doesn't like it, we can work out a compromise, either of us can change or we can decide it makes us incompatible. What you seem to be getting at is that there should be attempts to find compromise before walking away, whi… | /r/MensRights | 01/04/24 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Consent, only for women ?People have expectations going into anything, including relationships. It does not mean the other party is obligated to fulfil those expectations. Getting married as next step in what is presumably an ongoing physical relationship, it is a perfectly reasonable expectation that sex will continue. Of course either can reject sex on any singular occasion. They can also reject sex full stop. But the other one is allowed to feel like their reasonable expectation is not being met and choose to leave t… | /r/MensRights | 01/04/24 11:24 AM |
| 5 | Inside the disturbing world of Femcels: British women reveal why they've joined dark online forums where they share fears about being alone forever.I think men and women are mostly increasingly lonely for the same reasons - lack of 3rd spaces, lack of money to spend socialising, increasingly stuck living with parents, social media/ technology at large. That said, I agree the dynamics on men approaching have become much harder/ riskier. The whole risk of life ruined on social media side is a bit overblown (for 99% of cases) and to an extent is as relevant as you make it. I don't do social media, someone wants to disparage me on there I reall… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/24 10:30 PM |
| 4 | Inside the disturbing world of Femcels: British women reveal why they've joined dark online forums where they share fears about being alone forever.You wont be liked for this but it is correct. Some women receive lots of attention, lots dont. I know plenty of lonely women. Its exactly the same apex fallacy as when feminists gripe about Male privileges. Just because the top x% of women receive lots of easy attention, that doesn't mean they all do. However, it is true that on average women receive more attention than men which is why people push back on the idea of lonely women. 'I have it worse' mindset. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/24 06:36 PM |
| 97 | Therapy most of the time doesn't work for men, and here's why.In my experience - specific to substance abuse - men desire more practical solutions and less exploring their emotional response to problems, women desire more empathy/ support and less practical stuff. Men want to vent but mostly want to be told 'yes that is an issue here is how to fix it.' So 12 step stuff - here is some work to do that will 'fix' the problem - tends to resonate more. Women want some practical solutions, but mostly want 'yes that is an issue here is some validation, we will wo… | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 11:54 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men care more about money than women do when choosing education or career?There have been surveys done by recruitment agencies which confirm this. For both men and women pay is the most significant factor in searching for a job, but for men it is given higher weight whereas women give more weight to other factors like commute, enjoyment, colleagues etc. So if 100 men and women both have to choose between job a which is £50k but 2 hours commute away and job b which is £40k but 1 hour commute away then the majority of both will choose a, but slightly more men will choos… | /r/MensRights | 16/10/23 12:40 PM |
| 13 | Is it a man’s right to know your body count?I told him I’d only been with one guy before him. he thinks I’m faking traditional values and using him. I mean you can see why he is thinking that. I don't think it is a 'right' in a relationship to know body count. However the issue is that you lied to him. The problem with lying is when you are caught doing so about one thing it makes people doubt other things you told them. Thus him doubting paternity. In my opinion the issue is your dishonesty, not the body count/ past. While I do think he … | /r/MensRights | 09/08/23 03:20 PM |
| 11 | UK: Undercover police squads who fine men £100 for catcalling women are to roll out across LondonI'm a man. Never felt the need to catcall a woman, seems a very bizarre thing to do. Justifying it as 'men being men' is quite insulting to me. I have near zero concerns about this law affecting me. My primary concern is that this is yet another crime that is hard to prove, so the likely outcome will be faux outrage in a few years about low prosecution statistics and pushes for ever more stringent measures. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/23 12:09 AM |
| -2 | At the park earlier when watched by a womanHorrible person is a bit much lol. I described the act as abnormal, which you seem to agree with. There are plenty of legitimate reasons for parents not to want random strangers buying food for their kid, regardless of gender. OPs intentions were good, but any surprise or complaints about gender are at best naive. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/23 11:50 PM |
| -2 | At the park earlier when watched by a womanWhat, a parent who cares about their kids diet or doesn't want random strangers buying them stuff? I love kids, there is a big leap between talking to them and buying them something without speaking to their parents. There was no need for the woman to scowl at you, but your actions were absolutely abnormal. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/23 11:26 PM |
| 5 | Tennessee bill would make it illegal to falsely accuse someone of being baby's fatherTo play devils advocate, how do you prove it is a deliberate false accusation and not a genuine mistake? I suppose the consequence would be that if there is any uncertainty on the mothers side there has to be paternity tests not just assumption, which would be fair enough. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/23 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe that being handsome as a man is a huge privilege?There's no privileged gender at all I would more say that men are privileged in some circumstances and women in others. But yes, there is not one privileged gender. That's why I'm not keen on the whole oppressor/ oppressed dynamic feminism promotes. I think the fighting over who has it better mostly comes from the mindset of 'this issue is more important so needs more energy/funds etc.' Raise a mens issue in many subs and you will find it trivialised in comparison to a 'more important' womens is… | /r/MensRights | 17/06/23 07:57 PM |
| 5 | Do you believe that being handsome as a man is a huge privilege?I've read that hot women can have a really easy life and become popular very easily with almost no effort. Massive generalisation. Plenty of attractive people have very difficult lives and being attractive does come with its downfalls. When you talk about being popular, it's not uncommon for very attractive women to struggle to make friends with other women who see them as a threat or are insecure/ jealous etc. Also men, as most want to sleep with them not be friends. The same is true to a lesse… | /r/MensRights | 17/06/23 07:43 PM |
| 3 | "Nor Vincent, book Self-made Man, after disguising herself as a man for 18 months, her perceptions were rockedIt's kinda bizarre you keep repeating that stat as if it disproves sexism. Saying only 1% of trans women regret their transition would not be evidence that misogyny does not exist. The same is true for trans men having low regret rates. There are going to be pros and cons of transition. It seems more likely that both trans men and trans women face some misandry/ misogyny that they previously didn't but that they are still happier living as their preferred gender. Also need to consider that their… | /r/MensRights | 11/06/23 12:19 PM |
| 1 | I find this interaction with this misandrist woman pretty funny. This is the best way to deal with trolls who lives in a bubbleNah this is pretty much the worst way to deal with 'trolls' , not that she was even trolling just saying something you disagree with. If they are a troll don't interact. Whether they are a troll or not don't post the whole conversation on another sub. If for some reason you do post the conversation, censor their name. Surprised mods haven't taken this shitty post down yet. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/23 04:22 PM |
| 8 | Sorry in advance for low-quality screenshot and crop. Found on my college’s Yik Yak, man seeking advice for how to handle him not wanting to have sex with a girl and the backlash. Comments proceeded to explain this is the fault of the patriarchy because women are programmed to do this.While patriarchy is not the term I would use, there is a social aspect that makes rejection a different internal experience for women. 1) It is rarer for them. 2) As - if not more - importantly, it is rarer for their friends. So it is more of a shock and has more negative connotations. If it is common for men to get rejected then it is not a big deal an individual man being rejected, if it is rare women getting rejected then it is a bigger deal for an individual woman. There is a false expectati… | /r/MensRights | 04/05/23 10:36 PM |
| 7 | I'm a left leaning moderate, but if Trump promises to reform or abolish child support I predict he will win in a landslide.Surely there is also an equally large number of recipients/ supporters of child support who would be against this? Maybe a lot of them are already set on who to vote for and the anti child support brigade are more swing voters, I don't know. | /r/MensRights | 30/04/23 11:39 AM |
| 9 | Men are 57% of all rape victims and women are most of their rapists, per CDC data. Feminist propaganda about rape is false.I know a guy who was, was in desperation, forced by his drug dealer to receive a blowjob. Seems weird, but gay drug dealer and hetero victim. Spoke with gay friends about it who kinda explained the whole 'making someone gay' aspect. Rare no doubt, but anecdotally I have heard of one such instance. | /r/MensRights | 27/04/23 10:03 PM |
| 17 | As a man, having to put your arm around someone else's kid.I mean, as a man what the fuck are we actually supposed to do? Simple. Worry about the kids not judgy adults. In this this case, carny asked you to put your arm around the kids presumably for safety. So that's your priority. Honestly this is one of the complaints on this sub that doesn't really align with my experiences. Yes get a very rare comment from an uptight and likely tired mum, but 99% encourage me to play with their kids rather than complain about it. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/23 10:38 PM |
| 5 | A 'Feminist spring' - "dump your boyfriend".1) It's not a quiz it's a parable style story. 2) The idea presented in the video that love automatically brings wealth and happiness is demonstrably false. 3) I get the point you are trying to make, still a shite video. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/23 08:30 PM |
| 4 | A 'Feminist spring' - "dump your boyfriend".Haha what a bullshit video. 'Where love is wealth and health always follow', yeh dam those poor people they just don't love each other enough. Sorry you got cancer Dave, guess your wife doesn't love you enough. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/23 08:05 PM |
| 1 | My uncle and his friend are both divorced...I went to a few fathers 4 justice meetings when I was a teenager, on account of my dad having gone to those groups while struggling with custody of myself (I later moved in with him and it was a bit of a 'win' to show to others there.) I remember speaking with a guy there who had been through hell with his divorce, custody etc. I remember him fervently saying to me not to let the negative experiences of the men there put me off. How wonderful relationships could be and that feeling was worth the… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/23 02:13 PM |
| -1 | Feeling lonelyNot everything has to be compared to the other gender when deciding how to implement it. I don't see how a woman aborting or abandoning a baby applies anyway? | /r/MensRights | 16/03/23 06:19 PM |
| 0 | Feeling lonelyI don't personally but of course such men exist. I was just pointing out what would be a big issue with extending it to married men. How you get something to apply to 'genuine' cases and not be exploited through fraud is difficult, but it does need considering. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/23 05:56 PM |
| 0 | Feeling lonelyThere is an issue with married men being able to surrender paternity (well, men in general but it is particularly egregious with married men.) The problem is the potential for fraud. Let's say as a married couple you dont qualify for certain child benefits. But the single mother does. This would absolutely lead to married couples where the dad 'surrenders paternity' for financial benefits, but in fact is remains in a parental role. Not only is that scamming taxpayers, it will also cause problems… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/23 05:38 PM |
| 6 | What are men’s rights on knowledge of infidelity and do they deserve to know?How did your son find out about this? It sounds like not from you. If that's the case then surely it's a pretty obvious answer as to why he is upset with you? You hid something from him about not just your private life but about his childhood. A pretty basic fact - for the first 3 years he was raised by someone else - which from your title you are asking if he 'deserves' to know. It could have been a non issue if you were up front about it. Put yourself in his shoes. Would you want to know 'the … | /r/MensRights | 12/03/23 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Being the Main CharacterFair enough. Honestly I dont see a massive difference in who does it more. The ways men do it are often more obvious but not necessarily more numerous. | /r/MensRights | 28/02/23 01:07 PM |
| 2 | Being the Main CharacterWhat do you mean by are like children? To be fair there are some things men are more likely to be inept at - the amount of middle aged men I have met who claim not to understand washing machines and other basic domestic tasks is staggering. But there are also things women are more likely to be inept at - the amount of middle aged women I have met who 'don't do motorways' or refuse to deal with spiders/ take out rubbish/ other 'unpleasant' domestic tasks is equally staggering. Both seem to, broad… | /r/MensRights | 28/02/23 12:46 PM |
| 2 | “We can still be friends”While it may not have been you, receiving a suicide watch message two mins before this reply from you is rather suspicious. If it was you, then grow up. How you interpret someone rejecting you is down to you. Possible they 'wanted more convincing' but I would speculate unlikely. In any case it was an unnecessary response from you. To be rude to someone who politely rejects you then conclude 'they didnt like that because they wanted to feel validated' is bizarre and I suspect somewhat hypocritica… | /r/MensRights | 20/02/23 02:51 AM |
| 6 | “We can still be friends”I understand that. It is personal and for me depends on whether it is 'ex' or 'friend I fucked 10 years ago'. Does the same apply to you - you cant hang out with someone you had sex with? Or, per your original point, just flirted with you? I dont know man, just seems an over the top reaction to me to say to someone 'I would break up with you for that' just for saying we can still be friends as a form of rejection. How do you reject advances, 'never talk to me again!' ? | /r/MensRights | 20/02/23 12:36 AM |
| 5 | “We can still be friends”Why? Do you not trust being alone with someone lest something happens? Surely we have to give ourselves and others more credit than that. If I think of my teenage friendship group, half of them had sex with each other. Most are now married/ settled. Wouldn't mean they couldn't meet up with an old friend even if they had sex in the past. Let alone your scenario - chatted to someone in a bar who was flirty. Said I'm not interested, we are now friends - that's fine?! Met one of my gay friends like … | /r/MensRights | 20/02/23 12:28 AM |
| 5 | “We can still be friends”The fuck is this. You would dump your girlfriend for having male friends? Jesus christ, there are lots of women I am friends with but have no sexual interest in. There are plenty of couples I know where I sometimes meet up/ chat with just one of the two. This 'can't be friends with the opposite sex' mindset is something I have only seen in real life from people who cheat on their partners and think everyone else is the same. | /r/MensRights | 20/02/23 12:09 AM |
| 30 | How do you all feel about this post? c/ : educating.misogynists via IG"Lies, damn lies and statistics" What this post does is to take liberty with the fact the vast majority of sexual assault cases are no verdict, which it refers to as unfounded. Those unfounded cases cannot be claimed to be all true or all false. We do not know is the only honest comment. Yet many will present all the unfounded as true to downplay false accusation, or indeed present them as all false to exaggerate it. Bad practice in either case. This post actually has its cake and eats it by por… | /r/MensRights | 19/02/23 11:58 PM |
| 26 | Charges of attempted rape and assault are dropped against Manchester United footballer Mason Greenwood.Nah guys, this one was handled correctly. There was audio of her saying 'I dont want to have sex with you'- and him saying 'I dont care if you dont want to have sex with me'. That's fucked up. Being suspended by the club while under investigation was the right course of action. She has now dropped those allegations, seems they have got back together. Messy situation all round. What the club does with reinstating him into the team or not remains to be seen, but to date it has been handled correct… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/23 05:42 PM |
| 5 | Teachers being harsher to boys, especially Traditional boys, does this make you lean toward homeschool for your own children?For me the costs of homeschooling still outweigh the benefits, that is true regardless what gender my children might be. But I dont have kids, if/when I do would depend on partners opinion, our financial circumstances, etc. While the gender bias in school is a concern, my instinct would be to try to compensate rather than completely pull the child out of school. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/23 05:35 PM |
| 22 | Can someone tell me when custody began to switch from father to mother, and just when was the earliest form of “child support” (or “child maintenance” in the UK), even if it wasn’t called that? Most I could find was all over the place.I dont know about child maintenance, but with respect to custody im just going to paste a comment I made I someone who was insisting that patriachy is why women get custody: In the UK, custody used to default to the father under a patriachal line of reasoning that he could decide what happened to the children like all other family 'possessions'. This was codified into law in the Tenures Abolition Act 1660 The Custody of Infants Act 1839 gave women the right to custody of children under 7, and be… | /r/MensRights | 16/01/23 09:14 AM |
| 4 | What's the problem non-MRMs and/or anti-MRMs have with gym and physical exercising?Really dont like the dismissal of therapy in this post. I know several men who have been / still are engaged in counselling and find it useful. I don't think it good to put men off it by saying it 'doesn't work for men' or that they are 'never encouraged to talk about their feelings'. Some people shit on 'gym bros' out of jealousy, there is a also a stereotype of people making it their whole personality or treating it as a cure all when - while beneficial - it is not. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/22 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Question people don't ask when discussing the female and male gap in crime.Oh same I wasnt advocating for sex work to be illegal, just saying it not being so is likely a factor. | /r/MensRights | 28/10/22 01:44 PM |
| 2 | I need resources and arguments against the gender pay gap for class tomorrow. Google is hiding articles against it so I’m here panicking, any help please?A few other things which might be of interest: The commons study I linked above showed women under 30 earning within 1% of men despite working less full time hours. This article states " Figures compiled by the Press Association have shown that between the ages of 22 and 29, a woman will typically earn £1,111 more per annum than her male counterparts." Ask if this difference is discrimination against men, or just more women getting degrees? "While women are earning slightly more than men in thei… | /r/MensRights | 28/10/22 01:20 PM |
| 2 | I need resources and arguments against the gender pay gap for class tomorrow. Google is hiding articles against it so I’m here panicking, any help please?These videos might be food for thought Australian committee on gender pay gap pretty balanced look at both sides In essence, you need to first ask what they are describing then pay gap as. If they are quoting 15-20% they are definitely referring to total earnings regardless of job role/hours etc. Many of these studies 'adjust' part time earnings to full time equivalent, ignoring that part time workers will earn less by virtue of being less essential to the business and most part time workers are… | /r/MensRights | 28/10/22 01:20 PM |
| 1 | Question people don't ask when discussing the female and male gap in crime.I have a lot of experience with addicts. I have met a lot of women who turned to prostitution to fund their addiction, and a lot of men who turned to some form of theft. Very few men turn to prostitution. In part because it is a less viable option, more so because they would rather steal than be a prostitute. When asked, the vast majority consider theft the preferable option. While more women turn to theft than men to prostitution, I have asked those who became prostitutes why they didn't turn t… | /r/MensRights | 28/10/22 11:30 AM |
| 5 | Give me a ranking on JP, Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro and your reasons for thatBen Shapiro is terrible, an example of the worst form of debating that has taken over political discourse. He picks easy targets, is more concerned with appearance and 'outsmarting' his opponent than engaging the actual issue and is so defensive when challenged. 'I am right and I am smarter than you dont you dare say otherwise' is 10 year old level discussion. His fanboys are intolerable. I know nothing of Matt Walsh other than his 'what is a woman' documentary which sounds like shooting fish in… | /r/MensRights | 26/10/22 07:15 PM |
| 40 | What do you think of "emotional labor"?I get the point in that if there is a big imbalance in a relationship it can be draining to be the one putting more 'emotional labour' into it. Obviously there are periods where one party needs more support than the other' but if the imbalance is the long term status quo that is an issue. What I can't comprehend is using it as a reason to never support your partner - as you say that is a basic part of being in a relationship. If you dont want to support your partner' but presumably still want th… | /r/MensRights | 26/09/22 09:59 AM |
| 31 | If we should say #BlackLivesMatter instead of #AllLivesMatter because black people are getting killed at higher rates, Why isn’t it ok to point out that black men are being killed at higher rates than black women?The thing is black women are at lower risk than any race of men. In fact with BLMs premise of black people being more likely to be killed while arrested / during custody its statistically not true in the US or UK. Black people are more likely to be arrested in the first place' but are no more likely to die during that process. Men are far far more likely to both be arrested and then to die during arrest or custody. Simply put it is the 'male' part that increases risk not the 'black' part. | /r/MensRights | 15/09/22 09:55 AM |
| 31 | My car broke down & AA said they can't prioritise lone women as 'it's equality'Just found the attitude amusing. Another example of wanting special treatment when it is beneficial. Of course paying higher premiums to get this higher level of service would be unfair and unequal' but they should get special treatment for the same 'equal' price. To be clear I do think that the AA should prioritise high risk cases. But does being a lone women entitle you to a faster rescue than being a lone man? The AA statement eventually said 'we do prioritise women but we can't legally say t… | /r/MensRights | 26/01/22 07:29 PM |
| 28 | So, today my ex wife phoned me up to complain...The ex wife had wound herself into a fury as she kept asking me 'how does this make her feel'. Like her daughter prefers spending time with you. The right response is to take it on the chin and try to be a better parent. The shitty lazy response is to blame you and try to drag down your parenting to her level. Do what is best for your daughter' never mind the finances. | /r/MensRights | 29/12/21 12:58 AM |
| 3 | Feminism is dying down and mens rights is growingI certainly think some people are more told they are a feminist because they believe xyz than seek out the label to describe their beliefs but it doesn't really matter. I was trying to make the point that you can't assume everyone who calls themself a feminist identifies as your perception of what the word means. Change the word feminist for MRA/Christian/Liberal/ any other term people adopt and it's the same. Using the same label does not mean the same understanding of that label or the same be… | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 12:30 AM |
| 0 | Picky women vs slut shamingSure. The difference (in my eyes) is the assumption about sex to begin with. Not having sex with someone (edit - someone random) is straightforward and not an issue. Withholding sex implies the person you are withholding it from expects it now or in the future. It's the difference between me not giving you money and withholding money - holding it back from you sounds like it is yours/ you have a right to it that I am denying. So if it is two strangers and the man feels the woman is holding back … | /r/MensRights | 26/12/21 11:23 PM |
| 9 | Feminism is dying down and mens rights is growingIt depends what their understanding of feminist is. Many self identified feminists consider it to be a byword for equality' so there is nothing wrong with them identifying as one. If they buy into patriachy theory' the future is female' kill all men etc. That is a very different idea of feminist they are identifying as. | /r/MensRights | 26/12/21 08:32 PM |
| 0 | Picky women vs slut shamingThere is no singular way that a woman - or man - should behave regarding their sexual choices. However there needs to be an acceptance that your choices have consequences. Take gender out of it because it doesn't change my point- if you do x then some people will have a negative opinion of you and some people a positive one. They dont have a right to force their opinion on you but if it comes to whether to date you then they are allowed their opinion. Whether it's having lots of casual sex or no… | /r/MensRights | 26/12/21 08:25 PM |
| 2 | The International Conference on Men's Issues 2021 is unacceptably anti-abortion.You are right that there are other consequences often deliberately left out of abortion discussions such as the mental effects years after the decision. That ties into what you are saying about New York - using mental health to justify a late stage abortion is woolly at best. It is impossible to judge the mental effects until years after the event and as it will vary on a case by case basis when we cant are both outcomes we cant ever really know. Treating neglecting a child during labour or post… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/21 01:55 PM |
| 2 | The International Conference on Men's Issues 2021 is unacceptably anti-abortion.If the fetus has a right to life equivalent to everybody else's right to life This is where I would draw a distinction. Its right is not equivalent to everyone elses because its status as alive is different by virtue of physical dependence on another for survival. The pregnant woman has authority over its life by virtue of having authority over her own life which it depends on. I've not attempted nor seen anyone else attempt to quantify that balance. (Impact on father vs mother.) Fair enough and… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/21 07:17 PM |
| 2 | The International Conference on Men's Issues 2021 is unacceptably anti-abortion.Thanks' apologies if I was a bit tetchy! Pro choice is... >pro woman-only-choice to give it a reasonably accurate label I understand the point you are making. In fairness the term is commonly used in relation to a womans choice to have an abortion or not - the input of others isn't really the point. When I say pro choice I think most people understand that means pro womens choice not pro all parties involved as most people (rightly or wrongly) see the choice as being solely the womans to being w… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/21 06:43 PM |
| 2 | The International Conference on Men's Issues 2021 is unacceptably anti-abortion.Sorry just found it... You cannot have equal parental rights prior to birth because only one of the parents is pregnant. That biological reality means equal choice over the pregnancy is impractical. Its the fetuses right to life prevailed over the "right" to get an abortion, not men's "right" to autonomy over someone else's body. When the argument is that abortion is legal if both parents agree but not if the man disagrees then it is the mans right being legislated not the fetuses. When it is il… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/21 11:35 PM |
| 2 | The International Conference on Men's Issues 2021 is unacceptably anti-abortion.I meant completely pro choice in the sense of the pro choice / pro life debate. That's not me twisting the meaning' you are doing that by expanding it to the father and fetus. If you can suggest any way that the father can have a choice which is respected when contrary to the mothers choice without imposing his choice on the mothers body I'm all ears. But as you are pro life I doubt that is your point. For the fetus' it cannot communicate its 'choice' but if it could that would still fall into t… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/21 11:01 PM |
| 1 | The International Conference on Men's Issues 2021 is unacceptably anti-abortion.Don't be obtuse. The rest of my comment clarifies that the fathers choice is overruled by the mothers. There is no way around that' if they disagree her opinion is final. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/21 10:11 PM |
| 6 | r/misandryfetishWe might live in the same country neither of us have said which but it hardly matters. I don't believe your intent is to make racism worse but do believe that stirring up tensions by saying it is all white peoples fault does make things worse. I was talking about current times and history together. If you think it is fair to criticise white people for white past then the past of other races also needs to be considered. If you think only the present matters then why did you talk about white ances… | /r/MensRights | 07/12/21 07:35 PM |
| 6 | r/misandryfetishWestern media/history is going to have a western bias' that's hardly surprising. Same would be true of 'eastern' media/history and so on. There is also plenty of media that looks at western conquerors in a negative light - I would argue in the current climate it is far more acceptable and common to negatively portray the actions of white historical figures than other races. As to other races or ethnicities not having race based gangs- do you really think that is true or just that you don't hear … | /r/MensRights | 07/12/21 07:15 PM |
| 10 | r/misandryfetishYou guys are in-fact the original racists in human history, 'Othering' has always been a part of tribal identity. The idea that this is either exclusive to or an invention of white people is ridiculous. Racism existed in countless countries long before a white man ever set foot there. , no other race on the planet self proclaimed to be a superior race than you white people, Japan says hello. Also Han Chinese' ancient Chinese views of white Europeans' ancient indian views of all foreigners' Arab … | /r/MensRights | 07/12/21 06:49 PM |
| 5 | “Help, rape”Even though I knew she wasn’t interested I still tried making moves on her Idiot. | /r/MensRights | 07/12/21 06:23 PM |
| 1 | The International Conference on Men's Issues 2021 is unacceptably anti-abortion.The view that only people that have the prerequisites to live a happy life should be brought to life (which is obviously correct) does not entail that those that don't should kill themselves. I'm not suggesting they kill themselves' you are suggesting they should be killed? I don't think someone born with an absent father is self destructing if they don't rage against children being born to single mothers' blaming their struggles solely on that fact sounds much more self destructive to me. Have … | /r/MensRights | 05/12/21 03:00 PM |
| 1 | The International Conference on Men's Issues 2021 is unacceptably anti-abortion.I have first hand experience of that and have seen it in others I am close to. Does not mean I believe those children (myself included) should not have been born. | /r/MensRights | 05/12/21 01:01 AM |
| 1 | The International Conference on Men's Issues 2021 is unacceptably anti-abortion.Really. That's a wild comparison to make. Born with failing organs and about to die is having such a poor quality of life that abortion could be medically recommended. Being born healthy but without an involved father does have an impact on expected life outcomes but does not produce such a low quality of life that ended that life is the best option. Same as being born to addicted parents or any other measure that has worse than average outcomes. | /r/MensRights | 04/12/21 09:26 PM |
| 2 | The International Conference on Men's Issues 2021 is unacceptably anti-abortion.Best interest of the child is applied once the child is born so does not apply to abortion decisions. That decision is based upon the right of the mother to decide whether to put her body through pregnancy or not. That is her decision and her decision alone. However if she makes that decision against the fathers wishes then he should not be liable for the financial consequences of her decision. | /r/MensRights | 04/12/21 09:05 PM |
| 2 | Why are the majority of violent crimes perpetrated by men? Are men socialized to think less of themselves?There is both a biological and social side. Socially there are many factors that lead to a greater chance of criminal action across gender/race etc. If you have a certain gender/race etc. Who are disproportionately affected by one of those factors you are going to have more people from that demographic committing crime. A lot of the issues people raise on here - education homelessness' social value etc. - correlate with a higher risk of committing violent crime. Fixing these issues men face woul… | /r/MensRights | 04/12/21 06:22 PM |
| 2 | The International Conference on Men's Issues 2021 is unacceptably anti-abortion.Agreed I am completely pro choice. I suspect there is an element of organisers pushing their own agenda and also trying to jump on a political issue to draw attention and supporters from the vocal pro life camp. Men should have the same, full, abortion rights as a woman: No man should be forced to become a father because of an "accident" and despite his will. This is practically speaking impossible. If there is a disagreement over whether to keep the child then both parents cannot have full righ… | /r/MensRights | 04/12/21 06:14 PM |
| 80 | Do you guys think there could ever be peace between this sub and subreddit's like r/feminism?Common question... 1) r/egalitarianism exists. 2) For most people on either sub the ideal is equality. The disagreement is about why inequality exists and how to fix it. The entire premise of feminism is that men are oppressors and women the oppressed. This alone is why inequality exists. The solution is therefore to treat women like victims with no agency' dismiss mens problems as all of their own making and 'dismantle the patriachy' whatever that actually means. If you disagree that this is ei… | /r/MensRights | 03/12/21 03:09 PM |
| 6 | Beware the MatriarchyYup. It's another 'why men performing worse in society is bad for women' article. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/21 05:54 PM |
| 7 | Feminists Target King RichardHonestly I kind of think good. If feminists want to rant about this it's not going to win them any supporters. If I saw a film about Judy Murray I wouldn't get annoyed about it not focusing on Andy or Jamie. Let alone start digging up dirt on her. Doing so would just be bitter - same thing applies to feminists with this film. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/21 11:27 PM |
| 10 | Feminists Target King RichardBeing kind it's just a very shallow reading of the film - why focus on the dad of these two incredible athletes instead of the athletes themselves? If someone is genuinely ignorant of the fact the Williams sisters produced the film' or the incredible influence their dad had on their careers' then I can understand that attitude. But I highly doubt that is the case. Most of the critics know all this but just don't like a positive portrayal of a man - especially a dad. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/21 11:07 PM |
| 3 | An attempt to understand why there's so little interest to men's issuesHuh new one on me. Dont care if OP is concern trolling or anything else. If I'm bored I will give a genuine answer - hasn't cost me anything and they might take some of it in. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/21 02:04 AM |
| 2 | An attempt to understand why there's so little interest to men's issuesQuisling? | /r/MensRights | 25/11/21 01:59 AM |
| 4 | An attempt to understand why there's so little interest to men's issuesThis is down to two factors imo. First that mens issues are mostly ignored in the media. Why that is could be an essay in itself but a simplified attempt would be a) women consume more media than men and more specifically female focused media. So the media gives its consumers what they care about. This ties in to women having an in group bias and men an out group bias - both tend to care more about women and their issues. b) one thing the western world differentiates itself from 'developing nati… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/21 01:06 AM |
| 6 | How do you get over the anxiety of people not liking you?I have always felt the need to be nice and make sure I am kind and pleasant to everyone and to make them feel good and happy. But it leads me to so many situations that I regret and end up dwelling in indefinitely. This sounds a lot like 'people pleasing'. Here is a Web MD article about it. Your 'friend' sounds rather exploitative of the situation - perhaps unintentionally. It is best to seek help from people who are not themselves emotionally invested in the situation to avoid this kind of issu… | /r/MensRights | 16/11/21 01:15 AM |
| 20 | R/childfree "men who whan children are a red flag to me"Oh that whole sub is stupid. Not wanting kids for whatever reason is fine but it seems to be much more about criticising people who do. Which is criticising people for one of the most natural common desires in humanity. If most of the world (presumably including their parents etc.) look like red flags to you then the issue is the tint in your glasses not their flags. | /r/MensRights | 07/11/21 09:47 PM |
| 7 | Many men, when they understand the advantages that modern society gives women, secretly wish that they were born women.Freud described a phenomenon called 'penis envy' as the female equivalent which was later built on as a 'woman wanting to be a man in a mans world' idea in the past. To be fair Freud was an absolute nutjob but there is some logic to 'the other gender has privileges I dont' I wish I had those privileges therefore I wish I was that gender' as a line of thought. Although there will always be a 'grass is greener' side to this' it does make sense that the more society favours one gender the more the … | /r/MensRights | 06/11/21 03:30 PM |
| 2 | Man was raped by deception, his case was used as proof of rape culture (against only women of course)No worries. Yeh of course intent matters and I take your entrapment point but just can't agree that the man did nothing wrong. She was more at fault than him but he was still at fault. If I was tricked into sleeping with someone underage I would absolutely consider myself guilty - not of rape but of a crime - regardless of how I was tricked into doing it. Following your line of thought do you think the age of consent should not exist? Or just that breaching it without intent should not be punish… | /r/MensRights | 04/11/21 11:11 PM |
| 1 | Man was raped by deception, his case was used as proof of rape culture (against only women of course)Notice how I'm not down voting you? Just weird when people downvote someone they are replying to. My point was that increased risk of exploitation is a valid reason why we seek to protect minors. I'm not saying the case should be automatically assumed to be the fault of the man - take the gender out of it' there is sound reasoning behind treating the adult at fault in a sexual act with a child. That the child lied to cause this should definitely be taken into consideration but it does not absolv… | /r/MensRights | 04/11/21 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Man was raped by deception, his case was used as proof of rape culture (against only women of course)Yes it's possible I never said otherwise. It is also extremely unlikely / rare - the overwhelming majority of the time you can tell that a 12 year old is below 16 no matter what make up etc. They use. I'm not trying to dispute whether it is reasonable for the guy to have thought she was 16 or whether it was wrong for her to lie about her age - simple yes to both. The issue is how does the law treat such cases? Part of the reason for the current laws is the potential for coercion/ abuse of power … | /r/MensRights | 04/11/21 10:47 PM |
| 2 | Man was raped by deception, his case was used as proof of rape culture (against only women of course)I'm in agreement that the man in this story being lied to absolutely should be taken into account. It's difficult to approach legally because the whole point of age of consent is that anyone below is automatically the victim regardless of circumstance' which does come from a good place in trying to protect minors but also leaves the door open to people being prosecuted for being lied to by a minor. I won't pretend to have a solution. All I was saying was that 10 year olds passing for 20 - let al… | /r/MensRights | 04/11/21 10:30 PM |
| 2 | Man was raped by deception, his case was used as proof of rape culture (against only women of course)Sorry what? You think ANY 10 year old could pass for 30?! Yes there are plenty of teenagers who look older than they are - there was a boy in my class who at 16 honestly looked older than I do now at 31. But 99% of 10 year olds are not going to pass for more than 14 at an absolute stretch. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/21 10:17 PM |
| 4 | I held a poll on r/polls about mandatory paternity test. I am just sharing it here for any of you who may be curious about the results.Makes sense. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/21 11:32 PM |
| 9 | I held a poll on r/polls about mandatory paternity test. I am just sharing it here for any of you who may be curious about the results.Will put my comment on that poll here as well: No they shouldn't be mandatory. They should be a clear option that is explained to the couple (and the man in private) but not compulsory. What would get interesting is if the man wants a paternity test and the woman doesn't. Pre- birth she has the right to refuse. However once the child is born if the man is being claimed as the father he should have the right to check that. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/21 07:01 PM |
| 1 | So apparently just because I'm a male I have to pay more for car insurance than a female?I will not be editing it on the drive lol Quite right given the topic of conversation lol! I get your point that eyesight is a factor that might contribute to a crash whereas gender doesn't cause crashes but is just an indicator of likelihood. My point is that the insurance company doesn't care about cause or not just outcome - more crashes = more cost regardless of why that is. If x = more crashes then charge more for x. Have to agree to disagree - the law sides with you where I am in the UK bu… | /r/MensRights | 30/10/21 01:11 AM |
| 1 | So apparently just because I'm a male I have to pay more for car insurance than a female?Ok I misread it as from not born in. Just trying to get an idea of where you draw the line on what can and cannot be taking into account. As you say yourself cost sharing is inherent in insurance but you also don't think it reasonable that men should share costs with other men just based on gender' so what level of cost sharing is acceptable? "gender should not an eligible factor for the same reason as race, birth place, nationality, etc." So you seem to think anything that an individual has no … | /r/MensRights | 30/10/21 12:33 AM |
| 1 | So apparently just because I'm a male I have to pay more for car insurance than a female?I was just trying to establish that we agree insurance can discriminate on some things. You agree garage vs street (is it a choice or a reflection of wealth?) but questioned Chicago vs Houston. If chicago has a higher crime rate then I would say discriminate away - would you agree as by your logic it's their choice to live there? I get your logic on age being equal opportunity as it were in a way gender or race aren't. Honestly I still believe that the purpose of the insurance companies isn't to… | /r/MensRights | 30/10/21 12:13 AM |
| 2 | So apparently just because I'm a male I have to pay more for car insurance than a female?I think insurance companies should be able to discriminate based on whatever criteria they want to as long as there is a proven statistical reason for doing so. Do you think a 50 year old woman who lives in a low crime neighbourhood and parks in a garage should pay the same as a 20 year old man in a high crime neighbourhood who parks on the street? That's not practical. | /r/MensRights | 29/10/21 11:55 PM |
| 2 | So apparently just because I'm a male I have to pay more for car insurance than a female?Doesn't matter if it is correlation not causation. If there is a strong enough correlation to make insuring that demographic more likely to result in a payout then that is sufficient reason for more expensive premiums to cover that higher risk. Again' same as age. Being 20 doesn't cause traffic accidents but it is more likely that a 20 year old will cause an accident than a 50 year old. Before you sayot this isn't just down to driving experience- a new driver at 30 will still pay less than a new… | /r/MensRights | 29/10/21 11:47 PM |
| 2 | So apparently just because I'm a male I have to pay more for car insurance than a female?Does this also apply to age in your world? The entire point of insurance is to charge more or less based on different traits and the statistical risk that poses. | /r/MensRights | 29/10/21 11:32 PM |
| 1 | So apparently just because I'm a male I have to pay more for car insurance than a female?The entire principle of insurance is to discriminate based upon risk and potential cost' risk they can only assess by putting people into categories. So they look at age' postcode' career' etc. etc. And yes also gender. I honestly don't see the issue unless you think the entire industry should have one size fits all prices which would just be absurd. | /r/MensRights | 29/10/21 11:29 PM |
| 3 | Contact after parental alienationFirst of all good luck with the hearing. It's difficult. Hopefully the mum has not said anything too bad about you to her. To an extent kids that age take the lead from the adult so if you treat is as everything is normal she should echo that. In the grand scheme of things 3 months is not a long period (although it will have felt it!) I would just stick with a generic I missed you a lot/ love you and not get too into why you couldn't see her unless she pushes it. If she does then we had to sort … | /r/MensRights | 29/10/21 11:03 PM |
| 9 | I saw the user overlap stat of r/menslib. And almost all the top similar subs by user overlap were of women centric subs.The number is how many times more likely someone who comments on menslib is to comment on the corresponding sub than the 'average' reddit user. So someone on menslib is 17.07% more likely to post on witchesvspatriachy than the average reddit user. 25.01% more likely to post on trollxchromosomes' 11.18% on twoxchromosomes' 11.08% on girls survival guide etc.. The point is these overlaps strongly suggest the users of menslib are more likely to be women than men' and there is also an overlap with f… | /r/MensRights | 24/10/21 03:19 PM |
| 14 | In the UK a woman walking alone at night was abducted and killed. A debate was started that men rather than those walking at night need to change their behaviour. This recent AskReddit proves men take action when walking alone at night, so why is the media saying the opposite?So you are saying both men and women need to take sensible precautions to reduce the risk of assault? I can't believe you are blaming victims like that! She was just walking home! People like you are the problem! We need to expect crime to magically stop existing because we told criminals to stop! You see how stupid that line of reasoning is..? If so congrats you agree with OP. | /r/MensRights | 22/10/21 11:25 AM |
| 11 | In the UK a woman walking alone at night was abducted and killed. A debate was started that men rather than those walking at night need to change their behaviour. This recent AskReddit proves men take action when walking alone at night, so why is the media saying the opposite?It's both. Men are viewed as less in need of protection because they are seen as both less vulnerable and less important. Women being seen as having less agency is in itself misogyny but also results in misandry that while women are innocent victims men probably did something to get attacked' or at least are responsible for avoiding it. | /r/MensRights | 22/10/21 11:19 AM |
| 1 | Reddit hates gender roles... until a woman advocates for male gender rolesUnderstandable but that doesn't mean you would be above criticism for doing so. I never tried to say the girl wasn't at fault' just that I think both of them were as they both wound each other up and got more and more insulting. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/21 12:36 AM |
| 10 | A feminist promoting slideI said you were being an arse because of the condescending tone of your response and choosing to pick on the OPs spelling to demean what he was saying. Same way if my response to you now picked on spelling errors I would be a bit of an arse... I don't think you really presented a constructive argument so much as sought to dismiss what the OP was saying. Not that I particularly agree with all OP said but if you want to discuss what you raised I am happy to do so' however honestly I'm not optimist… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/21 12:23 AM |
| 15 | A feminist promoting slideEnglish might well not be their first language' in any case the meaning was perfectly understandable. Picking on spelling errors comes across as having a superiority complex' lacking confidence in your own argument or both. Don't be an arse. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/21 06:37 PM |
| 8 | Boy scouts let Girls in, but not vice versa. "Girls are mixed area every day"All I said was I agree that there are benefits to girl or boy only spaces - not at all times but alongside mixed groups. That wasn't a comment on gender bias overall within education. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/21 11:48 PM |
| 11 | Boy scouts let Girls in, but not vice versa. "Girls are mixed area every day"While I can see and support the logic behind giving girls girl only spaces what I find daft is that the same benefits will apply (maybe to a different extent) to boy only spaces. When they say girls wont 'have to show off' does anyone think boys never 'show off' around girls?! Do boys spend less time in a 'mixed gender space'? Why then should boys spaces be 'opened up' to everyone while girls spaces need preserving? There is a current media campaign in the UK about getting teen girls more into s… | /r/MensRights | 18/10/21 10:26 PM |
| 2 | Tucker Carlson mocks the idea of paternity leave. Apparently only mothers need to spend time with their infant children.I wouldn't feel at all guilty about taking some guys place in the workplace- that's just the competitive market. It's up to him to compete. With it being off balance in the relationship that just depends on the people in the relationship. We would be totally incompatible for example lol. But if the differences are complementary then it doesn't matter if the man is better at x and the woman better at y even if they are traditionally the other way around. Exactly as you say with the wife not likin… | /r/MensRights | 16/10/21 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Tucker Carlson mocks the idea of paternity leave. Apparently only mothers need to spend time with their infant children.Fair enough. I understand your viewpoint and there are clear social benefits to it. I know a few mums who do a 'bit of volunteering or part time work' either during school hours or when kids have left home just so they have some adult company - it's almost a break for them! But also plenty who have just taken maternity then straight back to full time work. Also several who would hate the idea of having kids let alone being a full time mum. Ultimately one thing which benefits children is having h… | /r/MensRights | 16/10/21 05:31 PM |
| 2 | Tucker Carlson mocks the idea of paternity leave. Apparently only mothers need to spend time with their infant children.With after having children I more meant once they have 'flown the nest'. Is a job then fair enough? Would you consider working while searching for a man ok? Given how many relationships start at work to begin with. Or not working at all just 'socialising' to meet someone? I agree that a total erosion of 'manliness' is a bad thing. But a man spending time with children/ in what could be considered maternal roles is in my opinion a good thing for the man' child and society. There is a reason peopl… | /r/MensRights | 16/10/21 04:50 PM |
| 3 | Tucker Carlson mocks the idea of paternity leave. Apparently only mothers need to spend time with their infant children.This is an interesting opinion. Disagree as I am more on what you would call the 'modern' side' not that I dont understand the benefits to traditionalism. Just want to ask if I can - when you say the women should be at home raising the kids' what is she meant to be doing before/after having children? Also what makes you think men are being turned into mothers / why is that a bad thing? | /r/MensRights | 16/10/21 04:27 PM |
| 3 | Why is "but men are the majority of perpetrators" brought up when talking about male victims?The entire MRA position exists as a response to women’s liberation / feminist movements. Is this in itself a bad thing? Oh look the gender inequalities women face are being dealt with - thats great wouldn't it also be great if we can also deal with the gender inequalities men face. That would be like dismissing a group dealing with racism against Indian people as just a response to the black rights civil movements. Or LGBT groups etc. Feminism doesn't have a moral superiority through being the f… | /r/MensRights | 14/10/21 07:02 PM |
| 3 | Questions for a mini documentary for my classYes. My dads struggle with getting custody of me. Gender roles enforced by my mother harming my childhood and creating a sense that my life was worth less than women. Have been through judicial and social systems which have an anti- male bias although it would be speculative to say how much effect that had. Some would categorise my mothers treatment of me as emotional abuse. Nothing physical. Not an 'activist' as such. Just a member of this sub and try to be a decent person. Yes. The manner in w… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/21 09:32 PM |
| -2 | Twox's toxicity and censorship I understand very well but this is a new low. Vicious assault is apparently ok when met with vulgarity from a teenaged boy no less.....they wear their misandry on their sleeves.There is a massive false equivalence between spousal violence and being hit by a stranger because you insulted them. You know there is. We can all say nice things like 'violence is never acceptable' but the reality is it does occur and there are times when it is more warranted than others. Is it fair to say if the boy was hit for no reason it would be less deserved than for saying what he did? We can say 'everyone should be treated equally' but the reality is we have different responses based on… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/21 02:18 AM |
| -2 | California: In just two days, governor signs into law free menstrual products for girls, requires stores to have gender neutral areas.Nonsense. Women being better educated and more economically productive is better for the men and women within that society on so many levels. Men and women benefit from schemes which reduce poverty whether it is men or women who are lifted from poverty. Never mind the fact that the women who benefit from this will be mens daughters/ future partners etc. Many a single dad struggling to make ends meet will be able to spend a bit more money elsewhere that previously went on his daughters tampons. I… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/21 01:41 AM |
| 0 | Twox's toxicity and censorship I understand very well but this is a new low. Vicious assault is apparently ok when met with vulgarity from a teenaged boy no less.....they wear their misandry on their sleeves.Of course I am not on board with either spouse beating the other for an offensive remark don't by hyperbolic. Yes I admit that while equal treatment is the ideal there will always be - for me personally - a different emotional response to different situations based on biological differences' gender roles & experiences' social conditioning etc. that is hard to shake and dishonest to pretend doesn't exist. That means in some instances I am naturally more sympathetic to a man and in others more sym… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/21 01:34 AM |
| -4 | Twox's toxicity and censorship I understand very well but this is a new low. Vicious assault is apparently ok when met with vulgarity from a teenaged boy no less.....they wear their misandry on their sleeves.I would admittedly be marginally more sympathetic to the girl - I did acknowledge that there is an inequality in how it is viewed - but my overall attitude of 'well dont say stupid shit then' would be consistent. | /r/MensRights | 12/10/21 01:23 AM |
| -4 | Twox's toxicity and censorship I understand very well but this is a new low. Vicious assault is apparently ok when met with vulgarity from a teenaged boy no less.....they wear their misandry on their sleeves.I get what you are saying and of course ideally violence should never be resorted to. I'm far from someone who thinks words equate to violence or nonsense like that. I do think that being pragmatic if a teenager deliberately insults another teenager it's hardly a shock or a big concern that they are met with violence. If the boy deliberately insulted another boy (or any combination of genders you want) and got a smack then I wouldn't feel a lot of sympathy. I will say that yes the violence is fa… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/21 01:15 AM |
| -7 | Twox's toxicity and censorship I understand very well but this is a new low. Vicious assault is apparently ok when met with vulgarity from a teenaged boy no less.....they wear their misandry on their sleeves.Point taken. But the wider context of the post doesn't really fit. The violence was not systematic' it's an individual case which occurred in response to the boy making what he knew was a derogatory comment. He just found out his words have consequences. Not like any of us think teenage boys should be able to tell random teenage girls they are going to fuck them in the ass without consequence is it? | /r/MensRights | 12/10/21 01:05 AM |
| 8 | Loudoun County Schools Tried To Conceal Sexual Assault Against Daughter In Bathroom, Father Says | The Daily WireNice try... Maintaining the concept of innocent until proven guilty does not mean treating it as a false accusation. It means treating it as an unsubstantiated accusation. Not assumed to be false or true. | /r/MensRights | 12/10/21 01:01 AM |
| 10 | An anthropologist at Harvard arguing that "we really need to get rid of males".Wasnt there a thing in the 70s where feminists were being encouraged to be lesbian so as not to enable the patriachy or some bullshit like that? I imagine that's the "thought process". | /r/MensRights | 12/10/21 12:56 AM |
| -10 | Twox's toxicity and censorship I understand very well but this is a new low. Vicious assault is apparently ok when met with vulgarity from a teenaged boy no less.....they wear their misandry on their sleeves.What point are you making with this post? How is this in any way related to mens rights? Is this somehow an inappropriate topic for twox? Regardless of genders involved If someone randomly tells someone walking past that they are going to fuck them in the ass then they cannot complain at that comment being met with physical violence. Of course ideally the teenage girl shouldn't resort to violence but given the teenage boys behaviour I don't blame her. Nothing misandrist about that. | /r/MensRights | 12/10/21 12:49 AM |
| -4 | California: In just two days, governor signs into law free menstrual products for girls, requires stores to have gender neutral areas.Yeh society isnt perfect. Problem a existing doesn't mean problem b shouldn't be rectified. Your existing health issues dont mean other peoples shouldn't be dealt with. Are you in the UK? I have had cataract surgery myself and know others who have without such a long waiting list. Not trying to rub it in just surprised honestly surprised you are facing such a wait - I understand the frustration. | /r/MensRights | 11/10/21 11:32 PM |
| 5 | California: In just two days, governor signs into law free menstrual products for girls, requires stores to have gender neutral areas.Why should we pay for shit that doesn't benefit us? Because it benefits society for young girls to not have their education effected by being unable to afford tampons? There are many social programs which you will never see a direct benefit from. That doesn't make them not worthwhile. Many sexual health clinics in the UK give out free condoms - just because I choose to pay for mine doesn't mean that isn't a good thing. | /r/MensRights | 11/10/21 08:11 PM |
| 7 | California: In just two days, governor signs into law free menstrual products for girls, requires stores to have gender neutral areas.Good. No problem with free sanitary products for students. The one which gets me is compulsory 'ethnic studies' for high schoolers. Dont understand the need for that. | /r/MensRights | 11/10/21 06:30 PM |
| 5 | what's up with the reporter post fight asking fury "do you think you'll get depression again?"I think Fury has been incredible in being so open and forthcoming about depression. He said himself if the heavyweight champion of the world can suffer from it then anyone can and it's not a reflection on your masculinity. Overall I think the media has been quite sympathetic to him about his struggles (once they became apparent- prior to that he was slaughtered which may well have pressured him to 'out' himself.) I can see where the reporter was coming from in that Fury has spoken about post fig… | /r/MensRights | 11/10/21 05:02 PM |
| 7 | Im genuinly interested why some men and women think men can't be raped.Because the phrasing of the law in a lot of countries defines rape as assault by penetration. So a lot of these people will think that men can be raped by other men just not by women - the line of thinking isn't so much that men cant be raped as that women can't be rapists. And legally they are right' unless the women penetrates the mans anus then her forcing sex would not be considered rape. That and a complete misunderstanding of erections. You can get an erection as a result of stimulation no… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/21 10:27 PM |
| 1 | TACKLE BREAST CANCER, FOOTBALL BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTHHere you are. Every September in North America. Its March in the UK There is also Movember which is general mens health issues including prostate cancer. I agree that mens health is comparatively underfunded and overlooked. But to complain there is no prostate cancer awareness months when there are isnt accurate and a poor reason to knock breast cancer awareness which is a good thing. | /r/MensRights | 10/10/21 10:13 PM |
| 14 | More bs from the British ministry for propaganda "BBC News: Why women are more burned out than men"It's all just building on the idea that equal pay isn't enough- women need to be paid more than men for things to be equitable. Always has and always will he about preferential treatment not equal treatment. | /r/MensRights | 07/10/21 06:18 PM |
| 21 | 'Nasty' woman who used ex's Alexa to terrify his new lover spared jail"Copleston-Warren, from Chelsea, west London, appeared in the dock with her support dog on Wednesday" "The judge added: ‘As a result of this crisis (the dog needing a surgery), which led to you behaving in an uncharacteristic way, you have already been punished.’ " Fucking stupid world we live in. You can post naked pictures of your ex and verbally harass people in their home as long as your dog was sick! | /r/MensRights | 07/10/21 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Good stuff given out, outside Tory Conference 2021I dont have a problem with it. I was simply saying that for a mens rights party to have its two opening policies in its manifesto be about pregnant women seems a bit wrong. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/21 01:15 PM |
| 0 | Reddit hates gender roles... until a woman advocates for male gender rolesYes. He tells her she is cutting some potential great guys off despite her already having tried to brush off his objection. Her response is to put him down as a bad boyfriend. He pushes his view on her she rudely dismisses him - what do you think I am misreading? | /r/MensRights | 05/10/21 12:22 AM |
| -2 | Reddit hates gender roles... until a woman advocates for male gender rolesYou got that the wrong way around sorry if I was unclear. 'Not eating eggs is missing out on so many great meals' was meant to relate to him saying 'avoiding guys who prefer to split is cutting off some great guys.' The shitty chef comment was related to her shitty boyfriend comment. As you mixed them doesn't that show that perhaps both were unreasonable? | /r/MensRights | 05/10/21 12:13 AM |
| -2 | Reddit hates gender roles... until a woman advocates for male gender rolesSo you are saying they are both in the wrong for giving unsolicited advice? Quite agree. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/21 12:10 AM |
| 0 | Reddit hates gender roles... until a woman advocates for male gender rolesI'm not defending that comment from her. I'm just saying that his comments both preceding and following it were bad as well. She stated an opinion he objected she tried to brush it off he pushed it and then she said that - it didn't come out of nowhere. This sounds very much like a two to tango argument where both riled each other up. This sub is mensrights not menarealwaysright. Both were at fault don't see an issue with saying that? | /r/MensRights | 05/10/21 12:08 AM |
| -4 | Reddit hates gender roles... until a woman advocates for male gender rolesHis comment was in the same vein as her shitty boyfriend comment. Not directly talking about the other person but clearly aimed at them. If someone said 'I don't like eggs'' and you said 'I love eggs' they said 'just as well we dont eat together' and you went 'not eating eggs is missing out on so many great meals' you are pushing the issue and challenging their stated personal preference. Doesn't mean they should respond 'you are a shit cook' but you did challenge their personal taste. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/21 11:57 PM |
| -4 | Reddit hates gender roles... until a woman advocates for male gender rolesHis comment was fair in itself but also giving unsolicited advice which was already gently rebutted with a 'I'm not talking about you' is going to have someone push back at you. Her push back was rude - both escalated it as it went along. I'm not focusing on whether it should be 50/50 or not - personally that depends on the circumstances of the date. Tinder type? 50/50. Me approaching a known acquaintance? I will offer to pay. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/21 11:41 PM |
| -4 | Reddit hates gender roles... until a woman advocates for male gender rolesI didnt say he started it did I? Read my other comment. Both escalated it at each stage in the conversation - he took it from her sharing an opinion to him challenging it and putting her on the defensive. She responded with a thinly veiled insult he then made a direct insult. Both were shitty I don't see how he isn't or why 'her starting it' would absolve him? | /r/MensRights | 04/10/21 11:36 PM |
| 0 | Reddit hates gender roles... until a woman advocates for male gender rolesYes... She says she doesn't want to date men who do x. He says I am one of those men. She seems to try and laugh it off. Instead of leaving it there he pushes it that she is missing out on some good guys by thinking like that. While a fair comment also pretty unnecessary and it's now him challenging her views not just them being discussed. More him taking it personally than her being personal. She responds snarkily by saying guys like that are bad boyfriends- ie. He is a bad boyfriend. Indirectl… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/21 11:32 PM |
| -1 | Reddit hates gender roles... until a woman advocates for male gender rolesWhy? | /r/MensRights | 04/10/21 10:55 PM |
| -12 | Reddit hates gender roles... until a woman advocates for male gender rolesThey were both assholes but I don't know how you can suggest he isn't basically because she started with the name calling? He made it personal criticising her dating standards before she implied he was a shitty boyfriend. The calling your friends sister a gold digger and bitch is an asshole worthy overreaction.. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/21 09:58 PM |
| 7 | Question to MensRightsI would happily listen and learn but would likely not have much to contribute not being BGT myself. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/21 05:05 PM |
| 0 | Good stuff given out, outside Tory Conference 2021Honestly I agree that our current 24 weeks does seem on the long side and 13 weeks would bring us in line with countries like Germany where it is first trimester. Really I don't have the medical knowledge to say where I think the line should be drawn. Only thing I would say for certain is as a minimum you have to give the woman enough time to realise she is pregnant' make a decision and organise the abortion - for this reason 3 weeks would be absurd. Its needs to be at least 10 to give enough ti… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/21 10:39 AM |
| 8 | Good stuff given out, outside Tory Conference 2021Never heard of this party before so went to their website and had a read of their manifesto Not bad and does try to be very straightforward/fact led. But I do find it really disappointing that the first two points are abortion (advocating for reducing the term limit to 13 weeks) and foetal alcohol syndrome (likening it to GBH and calling for prison sentences for mothers who cause it by drinking when pregnant.) It is terrible that a party meant to be focused on mens issues leads with two policies… | /r/MensRights | 03/10/21 11:10 PM |
| 3 | Is patriarchy inevitable?Pregnancy' infant mortality' job specialisation and the physical nature of work is what created gender rules that have women in charge of domestic affairs and men in charge of external affairs. All the rest stems from there. Going to copy a previous comment I made on the development of 'patriarchy' : Look at the transition from hunter- gatherer to farming based societies - in many senses the starting point of modern society. A few points on that: This happened independently in several locations … | /r/MensRights | 02/10/21 03:56 PM |
| 94 | USA: OnlyFans star who accused timeshare mogul, 59, of forcibly performing oral sex on her on their first date admitted she 'let him' but didn't want to sleep with him until 'he spoils me,' texts to matchmaker revealThose text messages are... interesting... it is essentially her talking to her pimp about how they both get paid. I kind of think fair enough - sounds like they all knew the situation was sex/ a fake relationship for money but in a more 'classy' way than that. But that he then acted deceived and is suing her for the money and her response is to falsely claim sexual assault just makes them both very shitty people. | /r/MensRights | 02/10/21 01:41 AM |
| 4 | How do we spread awareness of violence against men?Its difficult because although the stats show it happens far more to men than women inviting a comparison will instantly be shot down as 'anti women'. So the best approach is to try and raise the issue in it's own right and try to steer it away from people inevitably then raising violence against women to demean it. Then as you say you get 'yeh by other men' as if that discredits the victims. Unfortunately I don't think awareness of violence against men is tolerated. So the most effective short … | /r/MensRights | 01/10/21 10:21 PM |
| 5 | Examples of Misandry?I have only just replied because I went to bed... Why did my comment make you angry enough to send 4 replies? To clarify I am not saying that women don't face sexism - of course they do - just that this is more social sexism (gender roles and discrimination from individuals) than institutional sexism (discrimination from the state.) To answer the points you raised... 1) Yes a lot of the issues with social services do stem from women being viewed as primary carers for children. That is a partial … | /r/MensRights | 29/09/21 10:56 AM |
| 32 | UK: Male teacher, 32, who had sex with female pupil, 17, at £30,000-a-year Hurstpierpoint College is jailed for 2 years. OP: Very harsh sentence when female teachers are rarely jailed. The comments are reassuring.He had sex with his pupil. Her being over 16 isn't the point. If they met outside of the school dynamic and hooked up then legally it's fine. In a dynamic where he is her teacher it is and should be illegal. | /r/MensRights | 28/09/21 09:17 PM |
| 16 | Examples of Misandry?Institutional misandry: The court system is biased against men in every aspect whether criminal or victim. No matter the scenario you will have a worse outcome if you are male. The education system has been widely known to educate in a way that girls prefer and boys struggle with since the 80s but this imbalance instead of being rectified has been steadily made worse. Then there is significantly more schemes to help women than men despite women already performing better. Social services are misa… | /r/MensRights | 28/09/21 09:00 PM |
| 9 | Why some women become misandristsWith the bad experiences point. For men or women (or indeed race before someone says that) there is some level where it is understandable. If you have a bad experience with person with x characteristic then it's just an individual. If you have several bad experiences with people who all have x in common you are faced with a few conclusions. 1) You are the common factor and it is the way you interact with x type of people that is an issue. 2) As you have these bad experiences to a lesser level wi… | /r/MensRights | 27/09/21 07:29 PM |
| 8 | A big reason as to why some men are misogynists is because how men are often treated worseWhile I agree isn't this just a 'grass is greener' attitude on both sides? Some men see the advantages women have' ignore the advantages men have and end up jealous of women which becomes bitterness and leads to misogyny. Some women see the advantages men have' ignore the advantages women have and end up jealous of men which becomes bitterness and leads to misandry. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/21 08:29 PM |
| 3 | Sadiq calls for misogyny to be hate crime after Sabina Nessa’s murderYeh I know there is legal precedent for considering motive. It's just when the identity is a factor - I don't think me hitting a person of another race/gender whatever should have a more severe sentence than the same race/gender. What's also strange is that victims own assessment is a factor - they can say they believe that my motivation was their gender when in fact that had nothing to do with it and that is sufficient for it to be treated as a hate crime. Assuming someone's motivation and puni… | /r/MensRights | 23/09/21 11:16 PM |
| 18 | Sadiq calls for misogyny to be hate crime after Sabina Nessa’s murderPersonally I think the whole concept of hate crimes is identity based nonsense - the motive (often assumed motive) of a crime shouldnt be a crime in itself. That being said it is simple that if misogyny does become a hate crime then misandry has to be too. Otherwise you are making one gender more legally protected than the other. How anyone can even think is compatible with an equal society is beyond me. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/21 07:19 PM |
| 26 | I was talking to this person about why feminists don't call out the rampant misandry within their groupThat the UN discriminates food aid based on gender is surely a pretty clear cut example? Starving men denied food solely because of their gender. I would describe that as more than 'merely irritating.' Young boys being turned away from domestic violence shelters? Making a 12 year old homeless because of their gender is more than 'merely irritating.' Etc. Etc. I suspect the point she wants to make is that online misandry doesn't cause deaths whereas online misogyny does. Take whatever logic she u… | /r/MensRights | 22/09/21 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Curiosity: How do men here feel about legalizing sex work?From a practical perspective prostitution being illegal does not prevent it- all it does is push it underground which is worse for the prostitutes' their customers and the taxman. Yes prostitution might be more common if legal but why is that implicitly bad? Yes there will be some prostitutes who feel trapped doing it and some customers who develop unhealthy attitudes to it but that's true of any number of legal things people enjoy. From a moral perspective I can understand why people don't like… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/21 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Being a man means neighbourhood kids no longer talk with you cause you are seen as a creepI don't want to sound unkind but if it was solely because you are a man then wouldn't it have been the case from the off? Rather than a sudden 180? Seems like you are just assuming the reason is sexism. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/21 11:59 PM |
| 23 | I have never been told not to cry by a man, only women and children.When it comes to parents this study found that mothers have a gender bias that fathers don't with children crying/ showing negative emotions. The idea that the patriachy is what tells men they cannot express negative emotions is nonsense - that message comes from the matriachs in their life. In general the idea that 'boys dont cry' can be said in two ways. When my grandma died my mum was upset that I wasn't crying like her/ my sister so must 'not care.' In this situation boys dont cry can be use… | /r/MensRights | 20/09/21 07:56 PM |
| 4 | Since June, Swiss feminists have been protesting for "equal rights" and against women's retirement age being increased to match men's retirement age. Typical feminist hypocrisy.You realise the retirement age isn't a case that you are forced to retire - many choose to work well beyond it. What they mean is the pension age - when you become eligible to receive state pension. There is no reason why women should become eligble earlier than men. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/21 06:38 PM |
| 21 | My dad meets a lot of women online and goes on to actually meeting in person on the same day as they started talking. Like within hours of first sending a message. Am I wrong for worrying about the dangers of this? He is 53 years old and extremely sweet.Obviously there is an inherent risk to any unknown first meeting but realistically the chances of any danger are going to be statistically very low. From how you describe him it's going to be possibly being taken advantage of if/when a relationship develops which is more of a risk but still unlikely. Ultimately if he considers the risks involved worth the reward of a potential relationship then that is up to him to decide. Just speak to him about your concerns so he is aware then let him get on … | /r/MensRights | 18/09/21 09:54 PM |
| 1 | We are already living in a false rape accusation cultureYou do realise that you are advocating for people being jailed based on probability? Not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt just 'more people are guilty than not so we will assume you are guilty to be safe'. I agree that there are likely more correct accusations that can't be proven than false accusations. But the principle of innocent until proven guilty should remain regardless. | /r/MensRights | 14/09/21 10:25 PM |
| 8 | Is being in school in your 30's considered "not having your shit together"?Honestly just don't worry about it. There are people younger than you who have made more than you ever will and people older than you who don't have a penny to their name. You are bettering yourself and that is legitimate at any age. That's all that matters. As to the relationship side' you seriously don't think there are guys in relationships earning less than the $30k you were? Money makes most things in life easier but is rarely an instant fix - don't assume that earning more money will sudde… | /r/MensRights | 12/09/21 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Interesting Hypothetical dilemaAlways go and help' not a difficult decision. It's instinct to help a child. Sod any potential negative reaction. Lets be honest you aren't going to jail for helping a drowning kid. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/21 06:01 PM |
| 0 | Should Paternity Fraud be a Felony?Did you read my previous comments or just jump in where you did? I already said that I don't support jailing the only carer of a child unless they are a threat to the rest of society. There are clear benefits to the child and society as a whole not doing this. There is little or no benefit to the wronged man doing it. Paternity fraud should be punished but not in a way that harms the child for no benefit to anyone else. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/21 04:03 PM |
| 2 | Should Paternity Fraud be a Felony?Yes and I have suggested retribution/ reparations. Just not prison when a child is involved. Prison is not necessary as a deterrent. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/21 03:53 PM |
| 2 | Should Paternity Fraud be a Felony?Ok fair distinction to make. Disagree but accept that point. I would still ask if sending the mother to jail makes the man any less likely to commit suicide or the court process any easier on him? | /r/MensRights | 11/09/21 03:40 PM |
| 2 | Should Paternity Fraud be a Felony?Oh come on stop being silly. If I decided to kill myself now and left a suicide note blaming you for this conversation would you be liable?! You are suggesting that upsetting someone makes you legally responsible for their actions. That is mad. I'm not ignoring the damage just saying I don't think it should be a jailable offence no matter how the wronged party reacts to it. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/21 03:32 PM |
| 2 | Should Paternity Fraud be a Felony?No it isn't. Its not jailing people who assist in a suicide where they know their actions will result in their death. Its jailing someone for upsetting somebody. Imagine if two people break up and one kills themself' leaving a suicide note blaming the other one for leaving them - you can't seriously think that would be a available offence? Same point here - the man may kill himself because of his reaction to her actions but she is not responsible for his reaction. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/21 03:26 PM |
| 2 | Should Paternity Fraud be a Felony?Doesn't really change anything I have said. Would sending the mother to jail make them any less likely to commit suicide or make the court process any easier on them? Is being part of the reason someone kills themself an offence that could ever be proven / punished? | /r/MensRights | 11/09/21 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Should Paternity Fraud be a Felony?I would imagine the same thing as you. Its very hard to picture disowning a child you love. That being said it's probably one of those 'you never know until it happens to you' situations. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/21 12:15 PM |
| 1 | How does a utopian society looks like from your point of view? How would it treat the men and women of that society? The religion, the economy ,the life style how would it look like?Big question... There will never be such a thing as a utopian society because everyone's version of utopia is wildly different and forcing others to behave how your utopia requires is very dystopian. Personally it would be a society with as little infringement on personal liberty as possible while still maintaining a sense of order - to an extreme both of those things are incompatible so its about balance. With equality it would treat everyone the same on opportunities and differently based on t… | /r/MensRights | 10/09/21 11:11 PM |
| 3 | Should Paternity Fraud be a Felony?I'm not saying it isn't a crime just that jail isn't the best punishment for it. In what way do you consider committing paternity fraud to make someone such a threat to society that jail is necessary?. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/21 08:43 PM |
| 3 | Should Paternity Fraud be a Felony?This isn't about not punishing all women though is it? It's about the type of punishment. You can have an effective deterrent to paternity fraud without prison involved. Paternity fraud is not a crime which makes the mother a threat to society as a whole - not like a violent attack - so what is the reason for prison? Not protecting others in society but purely to punish her actions. This can be done in a way that doesn't leave a child parentless. It's not about it being unfair or not. It's about… | /r/MensRights | 10/09/21 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Should Paternity Fraud be a Felony?Ok I think it's better to avoid children going into care because of the crimes of their parent(s). Removing a child from their parents has negative consequences for the child and society as a whole so alternative punishments which dont cause this are preferable when possible. How it is implemented might well be flawed but the core concept is sound. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/21 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Should Paternity Fraud be a Felony?Hm fair point. With that I would suggest the courts cover the money (in the UK we have a victims fund which people pay into when fined by the courts that is then be used to compensate victims where the offender can't pay.) Then just a suitable financial punishment for the mothers fraud which can be payable to the courts not the father. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/21 08:23 PM |
| 7 | Should Paternity Fraud be a Felony?No it is a legitimate concern. In a scenario where you have a 10 year old and the Dad finds out paternity fraud and wants nothing to do with them I think sending their mum as their primary carer to prison is something to be avoided if possible. So many reasons it is better for society as a whole to avoid this. You can deter and punish paternity fraud without resorting to a prison sentence that harms an innocent child. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/21 08:19 PM |
| 9 | Should Paternity Fraud be a Felony?Yeh - you are defrauding someone out of a substantial sum of money using emotional manipulation that will change their life. The punishment is where it gets murky. No being a mother doesnt make you immune from prison but there is a legitimate interest of the child side that makes prison questionable. Some kind of suspended sentence and community service might be the best approach. If child maintenance has been involved then that should be a straightforward starting point - that needs to be repai… | /r/MensRights | 10/09/21 07:43 PM |
| 12 | What is the difference between Men's rights and MensLib ?I think we all have to make a decision about how much we want bitterness to define our character. I'd rather not let it define mine (as long as I can hold out). Completely agree with you. There are some posts on this sub which do go too far and are a bit petty/ bitter. I just take it with a pinch of salt but if you feel it may affect you then absolutely do what is right for you. In spite of the divorce I'm sure you have things to be grateful for in life so always keep a balance! | /r/MensRights | 10/09/21 03:01 PM |
| 43 | What is the difference between Men's rights and MensLib ?Feel free to check out menslib nobody is stopping you. But fair warning they will likely approach your divorce through the lens of patriachy and focus on what you did wrong to make her act badly to you- women don't have much accountability in feminism. That false slander will be dismissed or justified to you. Nothing wrong with some introspection nobody is perfect but no need to hate yourself and that sub has a lot of male self loathing. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/21 02:43 PM |
| 33 | What is the difference between Men's rights and MensLib ?"Well, we can agree that societal problems can't be blamed on women" That sounds an awful lot like saying women don't have social power. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/21 02:38 PM |
| 27 | What's your opinion on male characters getting gender swapped just telling gender is not important to character but it can't happen other way roundThe problem for me is that they aren't just gender swapped. Honestly don't care if you have a female version of a Male character or vice versa. The issue is more the way that a lot of the female characters are written - without flaws. A general trend in storytelling is that we see the protagonist learn and grow' often overcoming an initial personality flaw. This development is key and provides both a meaning to the story and a reason to root for the protagonist. A lot of female characters are wr… | /r/MensRights | 10/09/21 02:35 PM |
| 65 | How Anti-Male Feminism Is Driving The Growing Trend Of Anti-Female SubculturesIf you tell someone they are your enemy enough times don't be surprised when they start acting like one. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/21 02:25 PM |
| 0 | I have to denounce this one idea common on this sub, might get downvotedTo my mind the problem with this best interests of the child argument is children with one parent where the other died/ cannot provide financial support for another reason. If we have a system whereby a single parent cannot be expected to provide sufficiently for a child by themself then that is the problem. That some children are 'lucky' enough to have their main caregiver be able to force another to subsidise them is not a great solution. There is also the fact that child support is based on i… | /r/MensRights | 07/09/21 05:55 PM |
| 5 | Some points everyone is missing!Why would "misogynistic women going against what's good for all women" happen? The answer is either as I believe that people have a variety of beliefs experiences and self interests which cause them to act differently. Or as you believe that those women have been socially conditioned to harm other woman and themselves. Which seems more likely? | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 06:45 PM |
| 7 | Some points everyone is missing!If you can't see how it is demeaning to dismiss the actions of women as being down to internalised misogyny just because you disagree with them then I dont expect you to grasp how illogical everything else you are saying is. I get it the big bad patriachy is to blame for everything no need for any critical thinking. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 06:37 PM |
| 9 | Some points everyone is missing!There are more white voters because of voter silencing, not because of any other reason There are more woman voters because of voter silencing not because of any other reason. You see how absurd it is when you fit reality to your narrative rather than your narrative to reality. The reason for both disparities has to do with issues like voter availability (not being stuck at work)' engagement (caring about voting)' social engagement (feeling 'part' of the political system) and so on. To simplify … | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 06:08 PM |
| 12 | Some points everyone is missing!The reason there are more women voters is just an example of how we live in a patriarchal society. More women vote because they have more to lose if a misogynistic political cabinet is choosen. How can you actually believe that... Does more white people than black people voting mean we live in a black supremacist society as those white people have more to lose? As most politicians are male they literally passed a bill restricting women's autonomy rights in Texas. A bill that had more support fro… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 05:32 PM |
| 0 | Got a girl pregnant- curious what everyone thinks.I'm confused what both of you seem to want? Do you want her to live with you? Doesnt sound either of you want that so why is it happening? So if the alternative is her going back to Brazil then that's the thing to do. But yeh you are going to have to pay child support if they move out. Do you want to see the kid again? If so surely they qualify for a Visa through you? Marriage is clearly not a good idea. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 05:10 PM |
| 2 | Why are so many comparisons being drawn between the new Texas abortion law and "The Handmaid's Tale?"I don't know why you view attention for women as being solely for white women. Saying 'POC only get attention when they make their own' is like saying 'white/ women/ men / etc. people only get attention when they make their own' ... no shit. The reason there is 'no unity' is because of intersectional attitudes like this that try to break everything down into increasingly marginal groups. Dealing with a womans issue is not the to exclusion of any groups within the umbrella of women. If something … | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 03:17 PM |
| 2 | Why are so many comparisons being drawn between the new Texas abortion law and "The Handmaid's Tale?"I repeat I was not saying there are not racial issues in society or politics - just that implying black women already live a reality comparable to the handmaids tale and white women care more about that fictional tale than black womens reality is quite an extreme claim without anything to really back it up. Why do you think politics doesn't care about a black womens bodily autonomy? This Texan 'law' is not exclusively targeted at black women. There is a huge amount of political energy spent on d… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Why are so many comparisons being drawn between the new Texas abortion law and "The Handmaid's Tale?"That link confirms that more abortions per 1000 are had by POC than white women? Yes of course there are a multitude of social reasons behind this - I'm obviously not suggesting they have more abortions solely because of their melanin level. Just that the person I was responding to implying that minorities don't have bodily autonomy isn't true. The idea that minority women are somehow already living a handmaids tale reality isn't true. I wasn't claiming there aren't racial social issues. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many comparisons being drawn between the new Texas abortion law and "The Handmaid's Tale?"Aren't more abortions had by POC than white women? What POC are being forced to have children for a ruling elite? The hell are you on about? | /r/MensRights | 05/09/21 01:15 PM |
| 2 | What is the male equivalent of chocolates and flowers.Thay bullet list sounds really cute to me. Also back rubs. Everyone loves back rubs. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/21 10:03 PM |
| 2 | I'm going to write a letter to my local MP, and probably post it to a number of other people too. Can you help me write it?Just seen this... Here is a link to the last mens day in the UK government. It may be worth tying into this as a 'things you can build upon' - comes across as less of a complaint? Education is a massive thing that the government controls - drawing attention to how boys are falling further behind and asking what new initiatives are being put in place to combat this could be a good start. Mental health is a very topical subject at the moment so pushing focus on 'male friendly' approaches to this w… | /r/MensRights | 04/09/21 07:21 PM |
| 6 | Remember, only mothers make good parents.You can't be dense enough to quote something showing well over double the amount of children are abused by mothers alone than fathers alone but there is a 0.01% difference that the abusive fathers are more likely to kill than abusive mothers as evidence that mothers are less abusive? Mothers kill more children and commit substantially more abuse - over 2/3 - and there is an insignificant 0.01% difference in whether that abuse results in death whre fathers are worse so that 0.01% is what you focu… | /r/MensRights | 03/09/21 07:21 PM |
| 7 | Thank god for the DNA test!It's against men in some areas and against women in others. It doesn't have to be a zero sum 'one gender has it worse' - they both have advantages and disadvantages and both deserve attention. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/21 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Texas passes fetal heart beat bill. In a twist that might make it more men's rights than not enforcement is left to private citizens including I'd suppose biological fathers rather than government officials. It also seems to be civil and not criminal.Just as well that isn't what I said then. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/21 10:50 AM |
| 5 | Texas passes fetal heart beat bill. In a twist that might make it more men's rights than not enforcement is left to private citizens including I'd suppose biological fathers rather than government officials. It also seems to be civil and not criminal.You cannot have equal parental rights prior to birth because only one of the parents is pregnant. That biological reality means equal choice over the pregnancy is impractical. Its the fetuses right to life prevailed over the "right" to get an abortion, not men's "right" to autonomy over someone else's body. Is this law about the fetus? It seems the abortion is still allowed - so not protecting the fetuses right to life - its just that the aborter can be sued by another party. The person who sues… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/21 01:24 AM |
| 2 | Men's vs. Women's Emotional HealthYeah the whole approach to therapy is focused on a female friendly 'talk about your feelings in a safe space where we all sympathise with each other.' I have been to a few rehabs and in my opinion the best ones had an emphasis on both practical solutions and challenging peoples stories to look at their part rather than saying oh poor you. Generally the men are more receptive to and take more from 'looking at their part in it' while the women tend to take more offence at this. Both want to change… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/21 01:04 AM |
| 9 | Texas passes fetal heart beat bill. In a twist that might make it more men's rights than not enforcement is left to private citizens including I'd suppose biological fathers rather than government officials. It also seems to be civil and not criminal.Ok technically it is but it's not progress towards equal rights. I dont want men granted autonomy over their partners body that is far from equality. Preventing that killing of the child involves forcing your partner to undergo 9 months of pregnancy and permanent physical changes plus the emotional side of carrying a child to term that they didn't want. The state having any ability to enforce pregnancy is the stuff of a dystopian nightmare. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/21 12:41 AM |
| 4 | Texas passes fetal heart beat bill. In a twist that might make it more men's rights than not enforcement is left to private citizens including I'd suppose biological fathers rather than government officials. It also seems to be civil and not criminal.Hm depends what you see as illegal. It makes it grounds to sue somebody as a civil offence which makes it somewhat outside the law if not a crime. Either way the motive and likely affect of the ruling is clear - to discourage abortions. If anything it of worse that it is being done in an underhanded manner because they can't pass the legislation they really want to. I don't want someone to not have an abortion purely because they are threatened by being sued for $10k if they do. Unless you are v… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/21 12:36 AM |
| 13 | Texas passes fetal heart beat bill. In a twist that might make it more men's rights than not enforcement is left to private citizens including I'd suppose biological fathers rather than government officials. It also seems to be civil and not criminal."The law, signed by Republican Governor Greg Abbott in May, would prohibit abortions once a fetal heartbeat can be detected, before most women even know they're pregnant. " I can't support that. It's not progress for mens rights to essentially make abortion illegal. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/21 09:57 PM |
| 9 | News article on equal pay finally admits its not about same pay for same jobI'm not talking about whether minimum wage is high enough. Talking about different wages being offered for different jobs based on the demand to work there. An entry level job working with puppies is going to be able to offer less than entry level job working with sewage. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/21 08:33 AM |
| 1 | Revoking consentI'm not advising anything just saying it's an understandable response that shouldnt be condemned and the initial post is more about quality of sex than quantity. If A finds sex unsatisfying because B won't finish them off then A is allowed to say I don't want to do this anymore. Of course As end goal is better sex but not having the worse sex is a reasonable way of making the point to B. Party A is saying I want more/ better sex and will seek that even if it means with someone new (whether that … | /r/MensRights | 31/08/21 01:47 AM |
| 58 | News article on equal pay finally admits its not about same pay for same jobThis is my worry with the push for 'equal pay' - that it's now moving to 'regardless of the job you do.' There is the case a supermarket in the UK (think Sainsburys? One of the big ones) lost recently that they were discriminating because they pay their warehouse workers more than their store workers. As more of their store workers are women and more warehouse workers men this was labelled gender discrimination. They are different jobs with different skills and labour supply so pay differently. … | /r/MensRights | 30/08/21 11:46 PM |
| 0 | Revoking consentMy stance on this has nothing to do with whether party A is female or not. I started with gender neutral terms it is you who has made it a gendered point. To be clear my view is the same regardless of the genders and sexualities involved. I get what you are saying about sexual coercion. But there is a reasonable line with things that while they could be technically considered 'abuse' realistically probably isn't unless we consider every single relationship abusive which does seem to me where thi… | /r/MensRights | 30/08/21 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Revoking consentShe can accept what he has to offer as it is or she can fuck off. Of course. She can also ask if he can change what he offers. The idea that people don't and shouldn't accommodate each others needs in a relationship is odd. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/21 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Revoking consentChrist calm down. It is a legitimate complaint to your partner. Of course that does not mean I am treating men (or women) as sex products/objects. Just that you can communicate with each other about your sex life and if one of you routinely finishes first and refused to then help the other one get off that's going to be annoying. Of course your partner is not 'designed to be' responsible for your orgasm or anything else (although when you say 'marketed' they probably promoted themself as willing… | /r/MensRights | 30/08/21 04:50 PM |
| 1 | War paintThe point is simply that just because you would choose to wear war paint that doesn't mean it should be socially acceptable or that many other people would want to. Everyone has a choice about appearance and every appearance has a consequence. That will always be the case. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/21 04:00 PM |
| 1 | War paintIf I could cover myself in war paint no I wouldn't. I already can and choose not to. Because I'm not an attention seeker. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/21 03:56 PM |
| 5 | What do you think about women who view all men as dangerous threats?Yes we can expect and enforce basic safety standards. Pretending existing standards dont exist - ' we live in a car crash culture because some crashes happen and all drivers are responsible for not calling out the bad drivers' is nonsense designed to project victimhood and not in keeping with reality. You can acknowledge a risk but if you present that risk as greater than it actually is to push an agenda I don't respect that. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/21 03:55 PM |
| 1 | War paintMen can wear masculine face paint like women do - they can both wear foundation. Neither can paint themselves like you describe. You say yourself there should be a social and business standard within limits- why should these limits be expanded to include bright war paint if the majority dont want that? Just because you think it would be cool? | /r/MensRights | 30/08/21 03:51 PM |
| 4 | What do you think about women who view all men as dangerous threats?Anyone who lives in constant fear is paranoid and that shouldn't be encouraged. Crossing the road has an inherent danger. If I am so afraid of that danger that I am terrified to cross the road then my fear is not relative to the risk and is unhealthy exaggerated. Raging that drivers need to be better to make me feel safer and all drivers are responsible for the few bad ones would be an unhealthy narcissistic mindset. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/21 03:47 PM |
| 1 | War paintYou are acting like women can wear whatever they like to work... they can't. I agree that they have more options but do you honestly think a woman could wear 'war paint' similar to how you describe without issue at work? As to why not... there are many reasons for a level of social conformity when it comes to appearance. People are free to reject that but in doing so they are demonstrating a disregard for social standards that will make people perceive them differently. The point of your war pai… | /r/MensRights | 30/08/21 03:42 PM |
| 1 | War paintWhy should we? Why should you be free from consequences for your appearance in a visual society? Is this just related to war paint or should you also be able to wear a mankini to work? | /r/MensRights | 30/08/21 03:34 PM |
| 1 | War paintYeh probably' because it doesn't look professional. If you had a bit of foundation on people probably wouldn't notice or care. Thing is freedom of choice does not equal freedom from consequences. In your private life wear what you like and accept the consequences. In your professional life adhere to the dress code or accept the consequences. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/21 03:26 PM |
| 1 | War paintFeel free to wear make up or 'war paint' if you want to. Is anyone is stopping you? Nobody 'should' do though that's up to the individual. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/21 03:17 PM |
| 2 | Do you guys think feminism is something good, or that they really just hate men?Fair enough agree with that and yeh I did get the wrong end of the stick with what you said. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/21 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Do you guys think feminism is something good, or that they really just hate men?Ok sorry what did you mean? | /r/MensRights | 29/08/21 08:53 PM |
| 4 | Do you guys think feminism is something good, or that they really just hate men?Feminism is not about hating Men .... >it would inevitably discriminate against Men Well at least you aren't pretending its about equality and openly saying it is about discriminating against men as some form of revenge. because power and privilege does not come out of thin air, there is always a price to be paid, and guess who paid the price? You are obviously implying that women 'paid the price' for male privilege... this is where the ideology becomes about hatred by portraying one gender as o… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/21 08:47 PM |
| 74 | Revoking consentYes of course anyone has the right to stop consenting to sex at any time. However it's also a legitimate complaint if your lover routinely stops once they are 'done' and has no regard for your wishes. It's fair enough to label that as selfish / unsatisfying to the extent you don't want to keep having sex with them. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/21 08:07 PM |
| 3 | Abused By My Girlfriend: The Teenage Romance That Descended Into Terrible ViolenceHey u/chuckderry would love your thoughts on this given your AMA on menslib... | /r/MensRights | 29/08/21 12:35 AM |
| 7 | Thoughts on the song?The cynic in me says it is more about financially capitalising on the discussion than contributing to it. But hey nothing wrong with that and it is actually fairly well done. As to its content... there is nothing wrong with addressing the concerns that girls/ women face. However It is always a bit frustrating that universal issues are presented as so gender specific - the line about walking with keys between your fingers made me think about walking home with a knife in my hand which was actually… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/21 12:20 AM |
| 4 | Do you think you can measure how many right someone hasIt doesn't matter if you can measure it what matters is why she is bringing it up. Take a topical issue - let's say women in Afghanistan have less rights than women in America. Does that mean she thinks womens rights/ any inequalities they face in America don't matter? I doubt it... she is just trying to dismiss an issue she doesn't see as valid. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/21 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Falsely Accused - My StoryWho the fuck is upvoting this?! Don't employ whammen. Don't promote them. Don't give them the time of the day. Sexist bullshit. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/21 06:56 PM |
| 3 | Mum threatened to accuse victim of rape when he caught her burgling his homeOk cool not just minor stuff - I would still be free lol! Thanks. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/21 06:44 PM |
| 4 | Mum threatened to accuse victim of rape when he caught her burgling his homeI have heard of the 3 strike system in the past - would you be kind enough to explain it to me? Is it any 3 offences or just a certain 'level' of crime? I live in the UK and had 3 things on my record in a short space of time. Drink driving then criminal damage x2. Surely I wouldn't have ended up doing life?! | /r/MensRights | 25/08/21 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Why do women push for marriage to later initiate 70-80% of divorces?I get what you mean but that ignores the emotional side of wanting a baby with your partner. She isn't saying this with an idea of screwing him over - being a single mother would be her nightmare! Its more a case of if we are going to commit to raising a child together then commit to marriage first. Don't think that's unreasonable really. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/21 09:44 AM |
| 13 | Why do women push for marriage to later initiate 70-80% of divorces?Great comment. I would just add that I think there is a 'security' element when it comes to childbirth. A friend of mine has been with her partner for years. He wants kids she never really did but has come round to the idea of having one. However she has made it clear that she wants them to be married first. She has never been big on marriage but it has become a condition to having a kid. There is a 'not wanting a kid out of wedlock' side but there is very little stigma with that nowadays. She h… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/21 07:45 PM |
| 26 | Should men and women's chests be treated the same?My view is the same as any clothing choices - you have a right to wear what you like but a) cannot expect that it doesn't change how you are perceived/ treated. b) private institutions have every right to dictate a clothing policy which means practically speaking most of the time nobody can walk around topless regardless of gender. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/21 06:56 PM |
| 18 | Are all feminist issues now based on fraud?Wow.. I knew that various fields were left out of the 'women in STEM' figures but to see that with them all included women outnumber men... mad. Really shows how easy it is to repeat false 'facts' until they become accepted as true. I think with a lot of what you have listed its taking a valid point and exaggerating it to the point it becomes absurd. With STEM I have no problem with saying women are underrepresented in a particular subject- say physics - and asking why? To make out it is all STE… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/21 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Language issues in gender debates - Misogyny and Misandry aren't descriptive enough.Interesting read... I agree that from a moderation point of view it is far better to err on the side of caution than being ban heavy and a lot of the more 'minor' examples are not ban worthy. Also that its hyperbolic to label these minor things full blown misandry/misogyny. What is your intention for the new words - would you be flagging comments that were disandrist/ disogynist? Couldn't you just add a mod comment basically saying 'watch it/ tone it down' rather than new terms that many wouldn'… | /r/MensRights | 22/08/21 07:10 PM |
| 186 | Graphic being circulated on twitter tendatiously placing MRA's on a scale with 'black pill incels'"Acts aren't committed by people who are in power - Committed by Young men." Well at least they are saying young men aren't in power... the patriachy is finally crumbling! Take that Male privilege! /s | /r/MensRights | 22/08/21 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Moral of the story: keep all communications with females, record if possible - Trevor Bauer accuser's bid for restraining order is denied after emotional hearingWhilst an alleged vicitm could be lying when she says "I really enjoyed last night - when can we do it again?" to her alleged rapist, it doesn't seem very likely. That is a deliberately extreme example as opposed to CCTV showing them leaving together / messages to meet up beforehand etc.. While it can be unambiguous it often isn't dont know why you are trying to make stuff so black and white. Even then we have the issue that the real number is necessarily a grey number. Yes of course it is. But … | /r/MensRights | 21/08/21 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Moral of the story: keep all communications with females, record if possible - Trevor Bauer accuser's bid for restraining order is denied after emotional hearingOnly because you ignored the conclusion and substituted your own which was nothing like mine! You had already stated your conclusion was/is that 98% of no verdict cases were likely false. That is what you led with. It's unreasonable to present it as me substituting my own conclusion when that is what you said. Often private messaging between the two before and after the alleged rape demonstrates it was consensual It demonstrates intent for a consensual act but not that what then transpired was a… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/21 11:40 PM |
| 1 | Moral of the story: keep all communications with females, record if possible - Trevor Bauer accuser's bid for restraining order is denied after emotional hearingI'm not speaking in bad faith but it felt like you were jumping from a statement I can agree with- some cases are prosecuted without evidence - to a conclusion I can't- therefore it is statistically likely that 98% of cases which are not prosecuted are a false claim. I took this train of thought to be about lack of evidence whereas you seem to be saying more evidence against than for the claim? Easy to mix those ideas. Lack of evidence does not mean a false accusation. However, lack of a prosecu… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/21 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Moral of the story: keep all communications with females, record if possible - Trevor Bauer accuser's bid for restraining order is denied after emotional hearingYou seem adamant that a lack of evidence = false accusation. I think it's a lack of evidence - do you really think in all the 80% no verdict cases there is significant inarguable evidence that there was not a rape? Yet not significant enough to warrant a false claim verdict? That some cases are prosecuted on he said/ she said does not mean that they all are. That's a big leap. Plenty of he said/ she said will result in no verdict. Just as you argue that lack of evidence results in successful con… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/21 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Moral of the story: keep all communications with females, record if possible - Trevor Bauer accuser's bid for restraining order is denied after emotional hearingJust saw this.. I agree there is validity to looking at the likely figures of unknown statistics as long as we accept they are just estimates' not when they are claimed as fact to suit an agenda. Also agree that there seems to be a higher burden of evidence to obtain a false accusation judgement than a guilty judgement so you can speculate that of the 80% no verdict there are more unproven false than unproven true. That's assuming all else is equal though and i doubt the motivation/ amount of pe… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/21 06:49 PM |
| 3 | Moral of the story: keep all communications with females, record if possible - Trevor Bauer accuser's bid for restraining order is denied after emotional hearing'Ah yeh bullshit statistics are totally justified to make my point' I agree that the way accusations are handled at the moment is a perversion of the innocent until proven guilty concept that underpins our judicial system. Don't understand why people are publically named prior to a verdict. But making up clearly false stats to exaggerate the issue is not helpful. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/21 12:26 AM |
| 21 | Moral of the story: keep all communications with females, record if possible - Trevor Bauer accuser's bid for restraining order is denied after emotional hearingThere is no proof that 90% of accusations are false. Just like there is no proof that 90% of accusations are true. For both it's only 5-10% each with the rest unproven either way. Anybody claiming either statistic is presenting a deliberately inaccurate version of events. Your personal experience sucks and sorry to hear that but it doesn't mean you can take the 80% 'unproven' and lump them into 'false.' | /r/MensRights | 19/08/21 11:49 PM |
| 3 | Dreams can come true - New Stay at Home Foster DadWell this is wholesome. Well done' I hope it all goes well for you and your little family. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Question about relationshipThinking that an unattractive woman can't rape a man does not make me a feminist. Not wanting to track womens body counts so I can treat virgins differently to non virgins doesn't make me a feminist. Having a different opinion to you( if indeed you are serious) does not make me a feminist. You thinking everyone who disagrees with your frankly hateful rhetoric is a feminist is an impressively bad take. I'm just going to assume you are trolling... | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 10:31 PM |
| 3 | Question about relationshipAll women are rapist except virgins but they would probably do it if they got the chance. An app to track women’s body counts. We need to have an app where men can report the sexual encounters they have with the face and name of the women so we get an accurate idea of her body count since it’s so easy for women to lie these days. If a women is a non virgin we know to treat her like one, if she is a virgin then she gets respect. With the rise of false rape allegations, we need to collectively not… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 10:25 PM |
| 3 | Question about relationshipCome on. I support mens rights have been on this sub over a year and have started volunteering with a charity for male mental health which was introduced to me by this sub. That being my position I am going to call out someone trolling with comments that seem designed to make this sub look bad. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 10:21 PM |
| 3 | Question about relationshipWhy are you spamming such bullshit comments? | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe in the 'women are wonderful' effect?With women suffering in employment as a result of having kids.. I really don't know what people want to be done about this? If you take a year + out of a career that is going to set you back. Not saying that raising kids isn't work but it is different work - if I took a year out of my accountancy career to do childcare then that would set me back vs colleagues who spent that year doing a job relevant to the field. That's common sense. A friend of mine has a 1 year old' only took 2 months materni… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe in the 'women are wonderful' effect?I think it’s fair to assume a given woman has less agency than an average man given the wealth and power inequity. Ok. Women under 30 in the UK out earn men under 30. They are more likely to have a college degree. Power I dont know any stats off the top of my head on but generally people under 30 don't have positions of significant influence. So should we assume women under 30 have more agency than men under 30 by your metric? I have read the article and it is an interesting and valid point that… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe in the 'women are wonderful' effect?I'm just reading the wiki article while I do I should say I do agree a lot on the empathy point. A lot of it comes from women being seen as having less agency. So if a bad thing happens to a woman she receives more empathy as it is perceived to be more something that happened to her than something she did. Whereas with a man it is seen more something he did than something that happened. This results in women receiving more empathy when needed but also less credit for something positive- again mo… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe in the 'women are wonderful' effect?Do you accept that you saying men have more money doesn't mean the women are wonderful affect doesnt exist? Both things are true. Please stop dodging this simple question... With women being seen as in need of more protection... is it in need of or more worthy of? Again I would say a bit of both. Women are generally physically weaker and are the ones who carry babies. Those two immutable facts of biology are one part in way society sees women as both more in need and more deserving of protection… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe in the 'women are wonderful' effect?Acknowledging that men have benefit a and women have benefit b does not mean I am claiming a=b. You using a to say b doesnt exist isnt logical. Do you accept that you saying men have more money doesn't mean the women are wonderful affect doesnt exist? Both things are true. I can happily acknowledge there are social benefits to being male and disadvantages to being female - the same is true in reverse. I don't know why you feel the need to disprove a female privilege by saying a male one in retur… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe in the 'women are wonderful' effect?The social privilege you’re talking about isn’t as easy to quantify as wealth and power. No but that does not mean it doesn't exist. I'm not saying that it 'cancels out actual wealth and power'. Equality is not a zero sum game. Acknowledging that men have benefit a and women have benefit b does not mean I am claiming a=b. You using a to say b doesnt exist isnt logical. Additionally, you only get treated nicely as a woman if you are young and pretty, I don’t experience any of this as a 44 year ol… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe in the 'women are wonderful' effect?That's ignoring my reply to say the ready made answer you wanted to. I dont dispute that cultural change has resulted in women having more access to wealth and power. That more change would result in more of the same is an oversimplification but fair enough... My point which you have totally ignored is that women having less wealth/ power does not mean that women don't have other benefits such as the women are wonderful effect this post mentioned. They are not mutually exclusive things. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe in the 'women are wonderful' effect?What you are doing is conflating having higher material value with having a pre existing higher social value that allowed you to accrue that extra wealth. The women are wonderful affect is neither proven or disproven by the top x% of wealthy/CEOs whatever being men. You could make an argument that men get wealthy because they are privileged or that men more aggressively pursue wealth because they do not have the privilege of being intrinsically valued in the same way woman are. Both have an elem… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 12:08 AM |
| 4 | The #HeToo movement looks for mainstream acceptance by challenging women's programs in businesses and at universitiesThis is great because it is simply using equality legislation to highlight the unequal practices being done in the name of womens 'equality.' Nobody can complain without saying they want privilege not equality. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 11:38 PM |
| 4 | How often do you Advocate for Gay, Bisexual and Trans rights?I am wondering how often Mens Rights Activists advocate for Gay rights. It depends what you consider to be advocating. I always find people talking about advocates and allies a bit off putting as everyone seems to have a different definition of what behaviour is expected of me to tick the social virtue box and just being a decent person is increasingly not good enough... I don't go around preaching or going to pride rallies.. because why would I? I am completely accepting of individual LGBT memb… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Guys we have to start stepping in. We can't sit on the sidelines anymore.He PMd me to be fair. Basically said that while there were parts of my comment he disagreed with he 'can't think of any worthwhile alternatives to suggest.' Just left it that there is no 'good' outcome to an unwanted pregnancy but abortion is the 'least bad' option for now until technology provides better solutions. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/21 10:30 AM |
| 1 | A few points from a book I'm writing - what really was the history of "the patriarchy", and correcting feminist misinterpretation of human historyOk that all makes sense thanks. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/21 09:05 PM |
| 2 | A few points from a book I'm writing - what really was the history of "the patriarchy", and correcting feminist misinterpretation of human historyWhether this gwnerates anything resempling to the patriarchy defined in feninism, which expliclty (bluntly) assumes sinister, premeditated and coordinated ongoing male crime against women Very well put and yes I am not trying to suggest that such a thing has ever existed! That's the interesting thing and something you seem to be addressing in your book - the difference between patriachy as rule of fathers and patriachy as systematic oppression of women. Hugely different things. I agree that the … | /r/MensRights | 13/08/21 08:09 PM |
| 1 | A few points from a book I'm writing - what really was the history of "the patriarchy", and correcting feminist misinterpretation of human historyI'm sorry but I dont follow why you are saying marriage causes either matriachy or patriachy? That marriage + war will cause this? | /r/MensRights | 13/08/21 06:57 PM |
| 1 | A few points from a book I'm writing - what really was the history of "the patriarchy", and correcting feminist misinterpretation of human historyOk I understand where you are coming from with formal patriarchy'. Again I think you will find many claiming this exists pre nation states - the ancient Greek cities spring to mind - but not in the same way as under industrialisation so it's a valid distinction. I completely agree with that. It makes sense to look at how industrialisation/ urbanisation changed and formalised gender roles. Agree the idea that women never worked is so clearly wrong' I doubt anyone can claim it without an ulterior … | /r/MensRights | 13/08/21 06:28 PM |
| 1 | A few points from a book I'm writing - what really was the history of "the patriarchy", and correcting feminist misinterpretation of human historyYes. You said ' early lifelong marriage was already widespread... on its basis, patriarchy arose' You said patriachy arose on the basis of marriage so I asked why? | /r/MensRights | 13/08/21 06:19 PM |
| 1 | A few points from a book I'm writing - what really was the history of "the patriarchy", and correcting feminist misinterpretation of human historyPrehistoric societies were more monogamous than early farmers? I get they operated in smaller communities but my impression was that the general attitude to sex was more relaxed. In any case why does marriage in itself give rise to patriachy? | /r/MensRights | 13/08/21 01:22 AM |
| 1 | A few points from a book I'm writing - what really was the history of "the patriarchy", and correcting feminist misinterpretation of human historyFair point I should have and meant to say that men mostly did the hunting and women mostly did the plant gathering. Doesn't change the overall point I was making. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/21 12:57 AM |
| 9 | Why are attacking responses ignored by mods?Are you complaining about judgemental comments on a judgement sub? I read that AITA post. Wasn't it her birthday present not a surprise gift? Money wasn't the issue as he spent more on the bikini. The issue was that he decided a bikini was a more appropriate gift than something cheaper he dismissed as too expensive. He got a present he wanted rather than one she wanted. But, indications are, this is a prudish, insecure girl whose sex drive does not match his, so....surprise instead. So.... don't… | /r/MensRights | 12/08/21 11:41 PM |
| 38 | People in my life make it worse when they tell me to be optimistic.Things can get better. My dad was royally screwed over in his divorce when it came to custody' finance' false accusations and implications us kids were in danger with him etc. As adults all 3 kids have a good relationship with him. I respect him greatly for his attitude throughout that time. I haven't spoken to my mum for years. Please talk to friends/ family you trust who can help you. Organisations like fathers 4 justice may be able to offer advice and support. You are not alone in this and wh… | /r/MensRights | 12/08/21 11:33 PM |
| 3 | A few points from a book I'm writing - what really was the history of "the patriarchy", and correcting feminist misinterpretation of human historyI have to say that starting with the nation state seems a bit odd given that both gender roles and household representation existed long before this time. An interesting book for you to read might be 'why the west rules for now' by Ian Morris. While its focus is on the differences between East and West in doing so the author provides quite a thorough analysis of social evolution at large. Included in this is gender relations/roles. What made me think of this book is the opening few chapters whic… | /r/MensRights | 12/08/21 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Can we discuss gender issues rationally? Yes, if we can stop gamma bias.The article as a whole does not try to pretend the situation is equal - far from it. The article is highlighting how society views different gendered situations differently in a manner that disadvantages men. I don't know why your takeaway from the article was annoyance at the true statement that there is evidence that women are disadvantaged in some areas and why you chose to ignore that it also states this is true for men in others. That's pretty undeniable. The issue (which the article tries … | /r/MensRights | 10/08/21 01:21 AM |
| 3 | Can we discuss gender issues rationally? Yes, if we can stop gamma bias.Oh come on... It says: "1/ There is evidence that women are disadvantaged compared to men 2/ There is evidence that men are disadvantaged compared to women" Your comment has to be one of the worst examples of bad faith selective quoting I have seen and that is saying something. | /r/MensRights | 10/08/21 12:37 AM |
| 1 | The most masculine thread I've seen while reading the FTM sub?I have sympathy with anyone being persecuted on account of their identity. That being said goong off those comments they aren't receiving transphobia because they are men but because they are transgender. Yes being a man is what makes them trans but is not the source of the abuse. I do appreciate that presenting male might affect how it is treated like the first quote that people worry more about the woman doing the attacking more than the victim. Also not a fan of the disdain the comments have … | /r/MensRights | 10/08/21 12:32 AM |
| 4 | This might end up as an unpopular opinion, but this sub is degrading at it makes me sad.I can appreciate the logic and agree that a starting position of 'this is an issue for men / misandry is bad' should be enough. It all depends on who you are speaking to. If someone dismisses misandry as unreal or less important than misogyny or already dealt with by feminism you are then compelled to explain otherwise. Unfortunately this type of response is so common that many will end up preempting it and go straight 'on the offense.' I take the point that can be counter productive. That being… | /r/MensRights | 08/08/21 04:27 AM |
| 6 | This might end up as an unpopular opinion, but this sub is degrading at it makes me sad.Okay. But are you suggesting that we go along with the assertion that men are the perpetrators because that is how you believe society sees it? You might not consider men that way but if even mens advocates said they were oppressors just to go along with feminists rhetoric wouldn't that make if not your own then plenty of others opinion worse? What on earth would be the point in a mens advocacy group saying ' yeh men are terrible and oppress women but hey we should still support them!'?? Recogni… | /r/MensRights | 08/08/21 04:14 AM |
| 7 | This might end up as an unpopular opinion, but this sub is degrading at it makes me sad."the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes." See this is what makes me laugh about that definition of feminism being held up as proof it is for equality/for men too. It isn't' it is exclusively for womens rights as per that definition. There is no mention of mens rights on the basis of equality. Obviously I dont have a problem with addressing social issues that exclusively or primarily affect women. I do have an issue with those issues being blamed on patriachy and… | /r/MensRights | 08/08/21 03:24 AM |
| 1 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!Idk man I think if you polled people who aren't feminist they would still have a lower opinion of MGTOW than of this sub. It's not a universal interpretation but a common enough one to be problematic. Just blaming it on feminism without any introspection isn't great. I'm not following feminism just because I have a different - albeit probably less informed - opinion to you. Of course some people think its great and some dont. For the record I don't have an issue with the concept of MGTOW - anyon… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 08:13 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!Again please be pragmatic. I am not trying to debate the validity of MGTOW' why it has or whether it deserves a bad name. I do agree that the M part is a lot of why it receives criticism. I am just saying that it clearly does have a bad name. You might say this is only with the admins but guess what that matters if they are the ones capable of banning this sub. (I would dispute that though it does generally have quite a bad reputation.) As such I would rather this sub not be associated with it a… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 07:58 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!Do you mean me in this sub or men on reddit? | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 07:50 PM |
| 0 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!Ok I never went on MGTOW2. But if it was banned despite not breaking any rules you can view that two ways: 1) It was banned because it was a male sub and therefore all male subs will be banned regardless. 2) It was banned because of a branding issue. The content was not the problem but the fact MGTOW has a bad reputation. Without knowing I am inclined to believe that 2) is more likely. Particularly given the banning of new MGTOW subs. So what does this sub getting a MGTOW focus do but give it th… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 07:43 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!Fair point. Another reality of war is there are some people you either cannot or pragmatically choose not to save. I'm not anti MGTOW (neither they or the admins are my 'enemy') just dont want this sub repurposed and dragged down by it. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 07:33 PM |
| 0 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!Ok apologies if that's how it come across not my intention. The reason I focused on the MGTOW side is that this post is addressed to them not to the admins. I can only appeal to you to change as I am only speaking to you. And it is only an appeal - of course I am just one voice myself which can and most likely will be ignored. I don't like advocating for self censorship. But playing by the rules and the sub continuing as it was is preferable to it being banned. This is more about not wanting to … | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 07:31 PM |
| -1 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!And? A good friend of mine is a feminist and we have interesting conversations about gender roles but neither of us take it to personal hatred just because we have different sexes and disagree. Broadstroke generalisations are always flawed and that also applies to feminists- some are assholes' your ex might be one of them. But plenty are normal empathetic people who just have a different opinion on one particular subject. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 07:16 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!Ok I appreciate that perspective. Disagree that supporting bad actors is necessary under a group survival mindset but I can see the logic behind that approach. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 07:12 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!You are making it zero sum. Yes you can blame the admins. That doesn't absolve the MGTOW commenters from blame. That you view it so black and white and are also approaching this with an attitude that I must agree with you to continue talking is the kind of divisive childish nonsense I dont want to see overrun this sub. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 07:11 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!Yeh I don't want to be uncompassionate. But like I said with my lifeboat analogy there is a level of help that just ends up killing everyone. I didn't mind the initial MGTOW posts at all. But the quantity and more the sexist comments alongside that... if it becomes dominant and effectively repurpose this sub I can't support this just being a new place for them to ruin and get banned. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 07:08 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!Yes. But why give them better ammo? | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 07:03 PM |
| 0 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!So it's all the admins fault you have no personal responsibility? Im not saying it's perfectly rational/ causal but surely you think that repeating content which has which been shown to attract a ban is a poor idea? Never mind that a lot of people on this sub don't want to hear it as that is not what this sub is about. If you know they are irrational it would make sense to be wary of that not go fuck it let's talk shit as it doesn't matter what I do the admins could ban me for anything so let's … | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 07:02 PM |
| 2 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!Yes there will always be antagonists and trolls. I don't want to ban anyone but those comments need to be challenged not upvoted as they then go from individual haters to representative of the sub. My concern is that an influx of misogynistic comments will give an excuse to ban this sub. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 06:57 PM |
| 2 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!Ok so how do you respond? Defeatist? It's going to happen so just accept it?! Or be positive and maintain a civil discourse to give no reason for the sub to be banned and make any ban which does come clearly unjustified? They will cancel us so I may as well be an asshole is a poor attitude. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 06:54 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!I absolutely agree that 'misandrist' comment is far more tolerated on reddit than 'misogynist' content. I agree the admins will take any excuse to ban a 'male' sub. So why on earth would you give them the excuse they are looking for? I do blame you for your comments. Nobody but you is responsible for you making them. You know what the response will be from the admins so why do it? | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 06:52 PM |
| 2 | MGTOW posts and comments will kill this sub - please stop!If x behaviour has caused a subreddit to be banned and all its users just transfer to a new subreddit and repeat x behaviour that sub is going to be banned too. You can complain it's not fair or right that isn't the point of my post. Take responsibility that it will be the MGTOW content that gets this sub banned and people have ownership over producing that content. Blaming the admins response is denying the responsibility of the individuals commenting that they respond to. Its childish and self… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 06:45 PM |
| 0 | What are we supposed to do?Agreed. Unfortunately this sub is going to be killed my MGTOW refugees. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/21 05:50 PM |
| 0 | California: Kirilose Mansour v. Bumble Trading Inc. ; Bumble being sued for discrimination against men in the provision of dating services.I'm not saying that it isn't discriminatory I'm saying that it is reasonable discrimination because a) it is subverting the norm of dating apps to offer a unique service b) The format is clearly advertised and people are aware of it before they choose to sign up. If they don't like it they can choose another dating service. The discrimination these men experience is entirely voluntary. They have 'uniform' dating websites' think I have seen specifically muslim dating websites etc. Its not problem… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/21 05:27 PM |
| 0 | California: Kirilose Mansour v. Bumble Trading Inc. ; Bumble being sued for discrimination against men in the provision of dating services.I get the principle of treating all users equally. But the reality is that dating apps rely on the users to provide the experience for other users. That means that people of certain demographics are going to have inherently different experiences because of the demographics they are interacting with. Gay men have different experiences on dating apps to hetero men because they are interacting with other gay men instead of hetero women. That's just how it is. So in this instance Bumble have acknowl… | /r/MensRights | 01/08/21 11:07 PM |
| -2 | California: Kirilose Mansour v. Bumble Trading Inc. ; Bumble being sued for discrimination against men in the provision of dating services.Because the entire point of the app was to subvert that expectation by making women have to make the first move. You can't sue a dating company for nobody messaging you. What is the dating company meant to do? Force the users to contact people they don't want to? | /r/MensRights | 01/08/21 10:20 PM |
| 8 | Avoid the kool-aidCan people please stop trying to turn this sub in MGTOW2. Yes a lot of women wear makeup. That products designed to alter your appearance indeed do alter your appearance should be a surprise to nobody. If it bothers you wear make up yourself. Or don't date women who wear a lot of make up. If you can't tell any of those 'afters' are wearing a lot of make up you are an idiot. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/21 10:07 PM |
| 5 | Wanted to share this. I don't have the hours in the day to volunteer myself, but someone else may be able it.I'm really disappointed with this sub at the lack of engagement this post has got... Looking at your other comments OP it seems volunteers have to be USA based but does that mean that service users also have to be from the USA? If not I can try and spread information with support services in the UK and know a couple of men who have been sexually abused and may be interested. Edit: OP I have gone on the website and asked them to email me about how I might be able to help. Thanks for posting this … | /r/MensRights | 30/07/21 08:55 PM |
| 0 | This is a really heartbreaking story to read. And there are still people in the comments going after the guy as if he’s wrong. I’m glad some are defending him, but it’s sad there’s even a question about it.Hard question. It's like the police using an unlawful method to gather evidence of a crime. It confirms the suspicions and the outcome of looking is better than not having done so but the act in itself was still the wrong thing to do. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/21 08:27 PM |
| 4 | Chivalry is Not Dead When it Comes to MoralityEven when highlighting male disposability the article has to say 'Chivalry is not dead' to frame it positively. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/21 01:39 AM |
| 3 | This is a really heartbreaking story to read. And there are still people in the comments going after the guy as if he’s wrong. I’m glad some are defending him, but it’s sad there’s even a question about it.The guy is wrong. Come on he: Went through her phone when she was passed out. Smashed up her house. Went to go and beat up the guy she cheated on him with. Yes he was horribly betrayed and has every right to be upset/ angry. Being drunk/high makes a bad reaction understandable but not justified. Saying I smashed up her house but I'm still a nice guy just doesn't fly. It's not a mutually exclusive one or the other is 'in the wrong.' Both of them behaved very poorly. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/21 01:30 AM |
| 2 | Being a man complaining about your problems brings social stigmaFull stops are your friend. Find better friends there are plenty of women I know who are happy to be a shoulder to cry on without looking to one up me. If you are always complaining then yeah people get bored' if they never listen to you that's a them problem not a you problem. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/21 01:17 AM |
| 4 | How can level-headed feminists try support men’s rights?I don't. I do and am friends with some. Not true. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/21 09:43 PM |
| 6 | How can level-headed feminists try support men’s rights?The simple answer is advocacy. Help make raising issue outside of the scope of patriachy and toxic masculinity more acceptable. Yes supporting feminism will get you a push back due to some of the misandrist policies feminism promotes. But ultimately I don't care what someone calls themself so much as what they do. Raising and supporting mens issues' if you are feeling brave then push back on the 'all men' 'men are oppressors' type rhetoric when feminists raise it. Mention how a lot of male and f… | /r/MensRights | 20/07/21 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Sex work (esp online) is unethical and doesn't deserve respectYour reply doesn't show below my comment for some reason? Your distinction between alcohol at least does something to you and watching only fans doesn't is nonsensical. Why do these men pay to watch it if it doesn't do something for them? People only choose to engage in activity for a reward. These men have agency and choose to spend money on receiving a service. That's up to them. Using mental health to justify your dislike of it isnt reasonable. It's fair to assume the vast majority of only fa… | /r/MensRights | 20/07/21 02:47 AM |
| 2 | Sex work (esp online) is unethical and doesn't deserve respectrespecting sex workers as legitimate workers They provide a service in exchange for money. Legitimate business. You can say it doesn't add value to the economy but plenty of service/entertainment jobs don't do that. As for exploiting the people paying them' are they? Their customers have responsibility for their own choices not the people they choose to spend on. If any customers are deluded enough to be 'led on' then short of mental issues it's their fault for being an idiot. Loneliness is an i… | /r/MensRights | 20/07/21 02:11 AM |
| 13 | How do I convince my husband not to circumcise our son?Oh shit I always thought it was inactivism and wasn't sure why. That makes much more sense! | /r/MensRights | 20/07/21 12:49 AM |
| 61 | How do I convince my husband not to circumcise our son?Is your son already 14 / near to? If so surely he should have an input. I know a Turkish guy who was circumcised against his will by his parents at 13 for cultural reasons. Gave him a lot of resentment with them. Maybe go through the health and social reasons with your husband. The health stuff can likely be debunked - check r/inactivism - and you can challenge his thinking on the social stuff. | /r/MensRights | 19/07/21 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Universal child support, universal financial abortion, and finding common ground with feminists.You put it on men by saying 'a good father loves the mother' and then making it the mans fault because 'he chose her'. I'm not inherently opposed to child support so much as the way it is calculated and am happy to talk about the nuances of it but I'm not happy to talk to someone whose position seems to be 'men bad.' I'm done. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/21 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Universal child support, universal financial abortion, and finding common ground with feminists.You want to imprison men forever if they don't pay child support in order to stop them reproducing. You think that every relationship that fails is the mans fault for getting into the relationship and not the womans for any reason (or just no fault.) I can only assume you are trolling and/or hate men. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/21 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Universal child support, universal financial abortion, and finding common ground with feminists.No, because if they are out of the pool they won't be creating more kids. Kids are not the only part of the economic side. You just ignored every other point I made. Also how long are you planning on imprisoning these guys to make it so they are never going to have kids again? by being unfit in general and not having the ability to be a good father. A good father loves the mother. Right because every relationship that falls apart is the mans fault alone? There are plenty of legitimate reasons fo… | /r/MensRights | 18/07/21 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Universal child support, universal financial abortion, and finding common ground with feminists.Yes. Some men would be more involved if there wasn't a cost involved. Some men would be less involved if there wasn't a financial reward to sharing custody. Everyone is different. Looking at the large picture my stance is very simple. The state already provides for fatherless children. If that is not enough it needs to be improved. If it is enough then child support shouldn't be necessary. If child support from the father is viewed as being preferable to state support then its justification is n… | /r/MensRights | 18/07/21 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Universal child support, universal financial abortion, and finding common ground with feminists.But nobody wants to pay for men to keep on having sex and making more of the same problem. Kids without fathers do not do well. I agree. But this is the issue - those kids do exist and need to be supported. Any support could be argued to incentivise this happening but its preferable (imo) to that support not being there. As welfare exists this is clearly the preferred route so the question is more should welfare be in place instead or alongside child support. In particular, fathers need to step … | /r/MensRights | 18/07/21 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Universal child support, universal financial abortion, and finding common ground with feminists.I get where you are coming from but my view on givernment spending on children has always been that in theory everyone benefits from it when they were a child themselves. Even if you just view it from a self interest point of view you are just paying for what benefitted you and will benefit any kids in your life. I do think it's a fair point that if child support is deemed necessary then what about the children who for whatever reason don't have another parent there paying child support? Having … | /r/MensRights | 18/07/21 08:02 PM |
| 0 | How to combat discriminatory retirement ages.Oh yeh I'm not defending it at all just saying I seem to remember that was the reasoning. Whatever the reason was it shouldnt still be in place. Trouble with pension and retirement stuff is that they make any changes gradual and years in advance to 'give people time to prepare' so I while I think it will be equalised it will be done slowly over at least 2 decades probably more. | /r/MensRights | 17/07/21 08:50 PM |
| 3 | How to combat discriminatory retirement ages.Close. I think it was based on the averàge age gap between couples - the idea being that husband and wife can retire at the same/similar time instead of the older man retiring much sooner than his younger wife. | /r/MensRights | 17/07/21 08:26 PM |
| 5 | Girl accuses her father of raping her. After he spends 10 years in prison, she admits she had made it up. But police will not prosecute her as 'it may keep others from coming forward."Yeh you are saying feminists should fight for everyone under equality but also using the common definition of feminism which is the advocacy of womens rights. Focusing just on women is not fighting for everyone. Think of it this way. I run a charity and insist it supports all animals. However I define the charity as focusing on the rights of dogs. I only talk about dogs. If people mention cats I get annoyed and say that helping dogs helps cats too and they shouldn't deflect from the real issue w… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/21 12:02 PM |
| 5 | Girl accuses her father of raping her. After he spends 10 years in prison, she admits she had made it up. But police will not prosecute her as 'it may keep others from coming forward."You define feminism as advocating for womens rights on the grounds of equality and then say feminists dont fight for a specific type of person. Is fighting for womens rights not fighting for a specific type of person? | /r/MensRights | 16/07/21 11:30 AM |
| 4 | Girl accuses her father of raping her. After he spends 10 years in prison, she admits she had made it up. But police will not prosecute her as 'it may keep others from coming forward.""the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes." If a 'feminist' fights for only a specific type of person then they aren't a feminist. Can't you see a contradiction in those two statements? | /r/MensRights | 16/07/21 11:00 AM |
| 0 | 290,000 people in South Korea sign petition to require that women have the same military obligations as men. President office says we need to ask women if it's OK.Yeh I agree with that. But a historical law which still exists that men had no choice over is not a reason to implement a new law that women have no choice over. However it being decided that it is wrong to force conscription on women may provide good grounds for challenging the current law that affects men. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/21 06:01 PM |
| 1 | 290,000 people in South Korea sign petition to require that women have the same military obligations as men. President office says we need to ask women if it's OK.I mean the response is perfectly reasonable. They haven't dismissed the petition but said that it need to be considered before being implemented. That's how a government should respond to a petition' not just blindly action its demands. Of course reaching a social consensus is going to involve canvassing the opinions of women. Yes men didn't get this option' hopefully if the outcome is no draft for women it will lead into questioning the draft for men. | /r/MensRights | 14/07/21 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Is the move to Islam in the Western world, due to the dissatisfaction with radical feminism in the secular democracies?Yeh was just saying that Islam doesn't say 'no Jesus doesn't exist' but 'yeh Jesus is a very important prophet but there was another after him.' I imagine it's a bit more palatable. I have no idea on the numbers but assumed the children of a Muslim immigrant were more likely to be muslim (or not atheist at least) than the children of a christian who has lived in the country for generations. Could be wrong on that. The only point I was trying to make is that I doubt the reason for islam growing i… | /r/MensRights | 11/07/21 02:44 PM |
| 1 | Is the move to Islam in the Western world, due to the dissatisfaction with radical feminism in the secular democracies?Islam is quite an effective religion at converting people. It doesn't reject judeo christian beliefs do much as build upon them. Immigrants tend to bring their own religions with them and stay more loyal to them so while christian bases tend to dwindle into atheism islam grows. Doubt it has much at all to do with feminism. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/21 12:56 PM |
| 12 | My argument to those when I say I don't support feminismBut if all being a feminist means is that you support womens rights This is the issue in a nutshell. That is not all that being a feminist means. The core concept of feminism is patriachy theory - that women are oppressed and men are oppressors. If I support equality for women (and recognise there are areas where women are disadvantaged just like other areas where men are) but don't believe the explanation for this is patriachy then I am not a feminist. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/21 12:48 PM |
| 4 | Is abortion when your partner is unwilling alright?Abortion if the woman wants to and the man doesn't is ok as it is preferable to the alternative of the man being able to force her to go through pregnancy against her wishes. Abortion if the man wants to and the women doesn't is not ok as the man can't force a medical procedure on her. However he should be able to state I don't want this child and as it is solely your decision to have it I am not responsible for the consequences of that decision (ie paper abortion.) It's a double standard but an… | /r/MensRights | 06/07/21 11:22 PM |
| 14 | Society needs to stop letting little boys play with dolls, they can negatively impact their lives and society as a wholeNope. What a load of drivel. Yes play is educational. The lessons learned from playing with dolls - such as honing social skills by practicing interactions- are absolutely useful for boys. What you play with is what you learn about. What you learn about is what you are in adulthood. Stupid over simplification. A single thing you learn about does not in isolation define who you are as an adult - it's an amalgamation of everything. There is nothing harmful about the skills developed in this type o… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/21 08:53 PM |
| 9 | Seeking Emotional Support in Light of False AllegationsYour partner is lucky to have your support. Just commenting to say there is also a specific sub called r/supportfortheaccused. In terms of wanting to see that you are not alone the posts there may help. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/21 08:52 AM |
| 2 | Feminism is nothing more than a life hack for most women. Very few feminists are truly interested in equality.Labels are a funny one - both useful for brevity and inaccurate for detail. I doubt many people agree 100% with the policies of Republicans or Democrats but will sometimes take the label as a convenient way of generalizing their overall position. Same way you have people who will agree with some aspects of feminism and disagree with others. Plenty of those who say 'yes I am a feminist' will disagree with some feminist policies and plenty who say 'no I'm not' will still agree with some parts. I d… | /r/MensRights | 20/06/21 12:58 AM |
| 4 | Feminism is nothing more than a life hack for most women. Very few feminists are truly interested in equality.81% of women and 82% of men believe men and women should be equal when asked, Also 27% of males and 35% of females identified as being feminist too. Doesn't this just prove that there are more people who believe in gender equality but don't identify as feminist than people who both believe in gender equality and identify as feminist? Great that 93% of feminists claim to want gender equality (for the sake of it let's assume that is genuine) but also 77% of non feminists is very close to the overa… | /r/MensRights | 20/06/21 12:30 AM |
| 5 | I really want to do in person advocacy in my community but I dont know where to even start.Appreciate the intention. I wouldn't suggest a random peaceful protest- needs to be targeted at something really and as you say doing it alone probably isn't advisable. If your drawn towards fathers rights then there are many groups which focus on this you can look to support in different ways. My dad has given a lot of time to fathers 4 justice and most of that is just being at the end of the phone when someone needs you. But I'm sure they could point you towards more 'active'/ protest type act… | /r/MensRights | 18/06/21 09:38 PM |
| 5 | I'm leaving the sub, here is why.Fair enough I get that - as I say try taking it up with the mods if you can be bothered' obviously I can't speak for whoever removed it.. I agree that anything pertaining to mens rights/ human rights/ equality at large should be fair game for discussion regardless of controversy or politics and like that the sub tends to be hands off on moderation for that reason. There does need to be a level of keeping on topic and focusing on the gender aspect within that topic but you seemed to do so. Up to … | /r/MensRights | 16/06/21 07:30 PM |
| 4 | I'm leaving the sub, here is why.I will be honest I skim read this. If you want you could message the mods and ask why the post was removed? As to peoples responses focusing on certain political aspects' that's just how it is. I get your point that people should focus on the human rights aspect but if you choose a highly contentious and politicised example.- which the Capitol riots are - you can't be surprised that people respond about it. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/21 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Do you agree with the core Marxist and Feminist belief in Social Constructivism? That we're mostly the product of nurture and that nature is barely relevantI dont believe nature is barely relevant - of course genetics plays a huge role. However nurture also clearly does play a big part. As an anecdotal example I am an alcoholic and have been in rehab several times - the sheer prevalence of addicts I have met who have been sexually abused as children certainly suggests there is some correlation between childhood trauma and addiction problems. That being said I know an alcohol counsellor who is adamant in her belief addicts have naturally low dopamin… | /r/MensRights | 16/06/21 03:32 PM |
| -1 | Women caught on video hitting herself to frame husband for DVPlenty of women aren't doing what you say. Of course female superiority should be opposed as should any form of identity superiority. But the way you initially phrased it was that equality was in itself a bad thing. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/21 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Women caught on video hitting herself to frame husband for DVWhat now? So you are saying women shouldn't be respected and treated as equal? | /r/MensRights | 15/06/21 12:19 PM |
| 2 | A friend of a friend (23) was just sentenced to 2 years for rape. He’s kind, good looking, wealthy. The girl is fat and poor. The jury, after 8 hours, found him somehow guilty, without any proof. She claims he violently strangled her- has no marks. She gets monthly compensation. So wrong.Ok. I can see the logic of that. But I can't see that it should be used as supporting evidence of your friends innocence. Using him being good looking to support his innocence is just the same as someone saying a guy 'looks creepy' so is probably guilty. It doesn't wash either way for me. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/21 05:52 PM |
| 3 | A friend of a friend (23) was just sentenced to 2 years for rape. He’s kind, good looking, wealthy. The girl is fat and poor. The jury, after 8 hours, found him somehow guilty, without any proof. She claims he violently strangled her- has no marks. She gets monthly compensation. So wrong.So you do think that if he was unattractive and she was attractive it is both more likely and more acceptable for him to rape her? | /r/MensRights | 13/06/21 05:47 PM |
| 4 | A friend of a friend (23) was just sentenced to 2 years for rape. He’s kind, good looking, wealthy. The girl is fat and poor. The jury, after 8 hours, found him somehow guilty, without any proof. She claims he violently strangled her- has no marks. She gets monthly compensation. So wrong.No they aren't. The idea that someone who struggles to find a partner is in any way more justified in raping someone is fucked up. If she was really attractive would you think he was more likely to have raped her? I know an overweight and fairly unattractive woman who was gang raped by 3 younger men at knife point because she had thrown them out of a bar (she was a bouncer.) Their motivation had fuck all to do with her appearance and was a power/ punishment thing. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/21 05:13 PM |
| 6 | A friend of a friend (23) was just sentenced to 2 years for rape. He’s kind, good looking, wealthy. The girl is fat and poor. The jury, after 8 hours, found him somehow guilty, without any proof. She claims he violently strangled her- has no marks. She gets monthly compensation. So wrong.Or you could interpret it that he is good looking and therefore not used to hearing no. The relative attractiveness of either party has no real impact on how credible or not they are. That she grew up in a 'bad' neigbourhood and him with money also has no impact on an individual case. If this guy was falsely accused yeh that sucks. But you putting so much emphasis on their difference in looks and class as some kind of evidence of his innocence is just bullshit. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/21 04:52 PM |
| 18 | "Yeah I know men are more likely to be a victim of homicide... because of other men." Any good rebuttals for this?Just common sense. It doesn't matter what the identity of the perpetrator is a victim is still a victim. Only idiots who view all identities as monolithic and seek to blame all of one group for some of their actions think otherwise. Like saying a woman raped by a woman doesnt matter or a black man killed by a black man doesn't matter. Assuming it's a feminist trying to say how all mens problem are mens fault. I have never heard a proper response to me pointing out that the majority of child abus… | /r/MensRights | 13/06/21 04:04 PM |
| 2 | Misandry is as socially dangerous as mysoganyI get what you are saying but feel it is drawing the conclusion you want rather than what actually is. You say that holding in your feeling is “traditionally masculine”. But assume this is seen as a good state BECAUSE it is masculine rather than it is a good state FOR masculine people. Ie. Men should be more emotionally repressed. That's not a good thing for men but does make them better worker bees for society. Women being seen as incapable of restraint is a bad thing but being allowed to expre… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/21 10:41 PM |
| 1 | The history of Feminism in three sentences.Ok so your point 'when did it become illegal to rape your wife' is meaningless in terms of comparing gender rights. | /r/MensRights | 07/06/21 12:08 PM |
| 3 | The history of Feminism in three sentences.When did raping your husband become illegal in your country? If you want to make a gendered point you have to compare both genders treatment under law not just one. | /r/MensRights | 06/06/21 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Male teachers turn up in SKIRTS across Spain to support boy who was expelled and made to visit a psychologist for wearing one to classThis isn't people 'trying to abolish masculinity' it's just masculinity being expressed in a way you apparently don't like. Supporting mens rights should in my opinion be about supporting them expressing themselves however they are comfortable not about imposing your own ideals on them. I wouldn't want to wear a skirt but if that boy wants to it shouldn't be seen as him feminising himself just him being himself. Ditto make up straightening his hair or anything else. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/21 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Shower thoughts: Is prohibiting women from using certain clothes sexist against men since it implies that men are creatures unable to control their impulses and just by seeing a shoulder they might abuse someone?Yes I was purely referring to OPs question whether women being told to restrict clothing was sexist against men as it implies men can't control themselves. To which I think it is primarily sexist against women as they are the ones being restricted. Wasn't comparing to mens clothing. I agree that mens clothing restrictions tend to be more strict. The classic examples with school uniforms of girls not having bare shoulders or keeping skirts below the knee ignores that boys are not allowed bare sho… | /r/MensRights | 01/06/21 10:58 PM |
| 1 | Shower thoughts: Is prohibiting women from using certain clothes sexist against men since it implies that men are creatures unable to control their impulses and just by seeing a shoulder they might abuse someone?Yes I addressed that later on in my comment. Women do get far more choice in what they wear. I had a conversation a decade ago with my bosses about unequal dress codes in hot weather and was just told tough that's how it is. Me calling it sexist against women was in response to the OP talking just about restricting womens clothing - that in isolation is sexist against women more than it is against men. | /r/MensRights | 31/05/21 11:17 PM |
| 2 | Shower thoughts: Is prohibiting women from using certain clothes sexist against men since it implies that men are creatures unable to control their impulses and just by seeing a shoulder they might abuse someone?I mean that's obviously primarily sexist against women seeing as they are the ones whose clothing choice is being restricted. I can see the line of thought that it is also sexist against men by implying they can't control themselves. When it comes to school/ professional settings I'm all in favour of dress codes. Gendered dress codes not so much' but I doubt in any of these cases the men are allowed to have exposed shoulders so as long as it's fairly equal I don't see a problem. It's the justifi… | /r/MensRights | 31/05/21 10:39 PM |
| 3 | As an MRA, I think we should be more at peace with feminismThe problem is what do you mean by being 'at peace with feminism'? I am completely supportive of gender equality and by definition that means supporting issues for all genders. As such I am all in favour of people advocating for womens issues. What I am not 'at peace' with is a movement that blames gender inequality on patriachy' that believes men are evil oppressors and women are helpless oppressed. The core ideology of feminism is at best simplistic and hypocritical or at worst downright malic… | /r/MensRights | 31/05/21 01:36 AM |
| 8 | Why is the UK such a feminist shithole?Nah just that basically since the 2008 crash there have been more pressing issues to address and almost single issue elections. Both the major political parties have a similar stance on gender issues and differentiate elsewhere although recently labour ramped up the 'progressiveness' and was shot down hard for it. There have been a fair few protest votes in that time - we had the Lib Dems pander to young adults then form a coalition with their natural enemy the conservatives which was a farcical… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/21 01:20 AM |
| 22 | Why is the UK such a feminist shithole?I live in the UK. Like most things it's easy to look online at a certain topic in a country and think wow that's bad when living there it barely registers on daily life. I could say the same thing about gun crime in the USA but imagine for the vast majority of americans it's not an every day issue. A lot of women in the UK don't identify as feminists. The reason feminism is so prevalent here is that a very important part of our national identity is how socially tolerant we think we are. Its argu… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/21 01:02 AM |
| 3 | Should Women Really Be Arrested For False Rape Accusations?I have some experience of this - my mum consistently make false accusations about me having been raped - direct to police and/or to the people she suspected of raping me. It was immensely frustrating having her strain both her and my relationships with family members because she accused them of raping me. I told her repeatedly nothing had happened and to please drop it but she carried on moving on to the next 'target' and was unrepentant that 'she had a right to be worried/ ask questions.' I tri… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/21 02:59 AM |
| 19 | Deer men, if a girl says she's been raped, stay away.I'm not a fan of cross posting 2x stuff for outrage porn. But it seems that OP is drawing the parallel on the 'says' part and the implicit trustworthiness of what someone is saying. The 2x post says to avoid someone who 'says they were falsely accused' then goes on to elaborate that they probably were validly accused - ie. don't believe them/ this is a red flag. This post says to avoid dating someone who 'says they were raped' as following the same logic they probably weren't - ie. don't believe… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/21 02:30 AM |
| 2 | Guys we have to start stepping in. We can't sit on the sidelines anymore.Of course. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/21 02:47 AM |
| 6 | Guys we have to start stepping in. We can't sit on the sidelines anymore.It might be wrong to require a sterilization, but it is a greater wrong otherwise. That's your view. I completely disagree. The greater wrong is to have the state dictate an individuals reproductive abilities - that's some dystopian stuff right there. The outcomes of your proposal would be 1) They have an abortion and are subsequently sterilised at command of the state. 2) Being threatened by 1) they still have an abortion but via illegal methods with all the associated risks that brings. 3) Bri… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/21 02:43 AM |
| 9 | Guys we have to start stepping in. We can't sit on the sidelines anymore.What do you mean by 'make it mandatory in the medical field? Physically how? Are you suggesting sterilisation/hysterectomy if you have an abortion or forced adoption for future pregnancies? Any legal deterrent that forces unwanted pregnancies to continue through intimidation is ethically wrong. The presumption that a woman having an abortion at one time will be a bad mother / not care for future children at a different stage of her life is just wrong. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/21 02:20 AM |
| 5 | Guys we have to start stepping in. We can't sit on the sidelines anymore.So if someone has an abortion once at 18 they can't ever have a kid again? How and why would you want to enforce that? | /r/MensRights | 24/05/21 02:09 AM |
| 4 | Guys we have to start stepping in. We can't sit on the sidelines anymore.Do I have a say in abortion law? As much and no more than any other citizen. Do I have a say in individual cases of abortion? Not really. An opinion sure but not an influence. Even if it's my own kid being aborted my opinion is outweighed by the mothers. As there is no viable way of compromising her opinion is the deciding one. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/21 02:03 AM |
| 9 | Guys we have to start stepping in. We can't sit on the sidelines anymore.What makes you think that supporting mens rights would make me opposed to abortion? | /r/MensRights | 24/05/21 01:58 AM |
| 2 | Some disagreement with the post "Some women just wanna be treated like little children"Sorry what? Your friends think he should also pay your personal bills on top of already paying both your living expenses? How you split things is up to you two Him working longer hours to pay the mortgage while you work less hours but do the domestic work sounds perfectly reasonable if you are both happy with it. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/21 09:08 PM |
| 2 | Open letter to the New Zealand Human Rights CommissionSimply amazing work. You say in the comments that you have been speaking with them for over year - thank you for putting so much time and effort into this. | /r/MensRights | 20/05/21 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Maybe there's hope?Using your arguments to support your argument is circular - like saying the bible proves God exists and God proves the bibles is true. All I am saying is that you using the fact there are less women in the top % of IQ to say the majority of women are incapable of critical thinking is absurd and sexist. There is no valid justification for you saying that despite all your fancy rhetoric to mask how clearly false your initial statement was. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/21 03:05 PM |
| 1 | Maybe there's hope?Research the bell curve distribution of IQ across the sexes. I'm well aware of that. Unless your argument is that only the top x% of people in IQ are capable of critical thinking (which is wrong) it isn't relevant. he rebutted all of Andrew Neil's arguments with a valid counterpoint, Nope. Rather than answering the question he had to default to assuming the political leanings of the questioner. in fact Master Shapiro gave answers that were simply too advanced for Andrew Neil (and most mortals) t… | /r/MensRights | 18/05/21 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Maybe there's hope?I disagree that it is fair to say only a minority of women possess critical thinking skills. Pretty much all people do' although to varying levels. Defining a subset doesn't make your claim factually correct - you are relying on your own argument as evidence. I agree that one poorly conducted interview doesn't negate that Shapiro is a fine debater. However you set the parameter that "If you show me a single video where he loses an argument, then I'll concede to your point." I provided such a vid… | /r/MensRights | 18/05/21 10:18 AM |
| 1 | Maybe there's hope?I will bite... In your initial comment you said "There is a small subset of women who are high up on the bell curve; thus, they possess critical thinking and logical reasoning." That statement is quite reasonably interpreted as 'only a small subset of women possess critical thinking and logical reasoning' which implies that the majority of women do not possess those qualities. It may not have been your intention but that is how the statement comes across. Rather than simply clarify this your sub… | /r/MensRights | 18/05/21 03:04 AM |
| 2 | Trans Exclusionary Mens Rights ActivistsI understand where you are coming from that it must be disheartening. I personally welcome the insight of trans people who can contribute a lot to gender debates from their unique perspective. However while I'm not going to defend transphobic comments I will say that being trans is a harder thing to wrap my head around than other 'types' of male. How you are treated as a certain race or certain sexuality as a man is easier for me to understand regardless of if it matches my race/sexuality etc. P… | /r/MensRights | 17/05/21 04:20 AM |
| 3 | Trans Exclusionary Mens Rights ActivistsThat draft is an interesting point I never considered. Wonder how may FtM trans men have signed up to the draft now they are registered as men? Are they legally required to? Surely the government recognises them as men and therefore imposes the legal obligations men face - it would be transphobic not to. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/21 03:49 AM |
| 8 | How come if the west is so sexist most woman feel actually liberated coming to these countries?No. What is thanks to feminism is that you believe that these things are feminist victories. Voting rights: In the UK voting rights evolved like this Divine right of royalty (the idea that the King/Queen was appointed by and only answerable to God) 1215 and the Magna Carta. Agreed by the royals in response to violent rebellion from powerful barons. Literally a council of just 25 barons granted the right to have a say on the level of taxes in exchange for pledging their local armies (compromised … | /r/MensRights | 17/05/21 03:25 AM |
| 2 | What are your top 3 most important men’s rights issues?Honestly I think that you have said a key issue in your post - the gap in 'the concerns of real MRAs with what the media says they are.' It's not the biggest problem facing men but it is impossible to make progress on other issues without first having discussion of mens issues being acknowledged as worthy not disparaged as inherently sexist or unimportant' dismissed by labels like incel etc. Imagine dismissing womens issues by making derogatory assumptions about their sex life. The top 3 actual … | /r/MensRights | 16/05/21 06:00 PM |
| 2 | Victims have rights. They have responsibilities too (When they're men). Oh, children can give consent of they're boys. The opposite cannot happen.Dude come on. I have not said that a 17 year old has absolutely no personal responsibility. I have said that if the legal age of consent is 18 then anyone under that age cannot legally consent to sex and therefore can't be held legally responsible for the results. Answer the question - if you think age is completely irrelevant then should 3 year olds be able to smoke/drive etc. Like you think 13 year olds should be able to? If not the only logical conclusion is that age is relevant to someone's … | /r/MensRights | 14/05/21 11:49 PM |
| 46 | Abuse is abuse'Women cannot match the brutality of men.' Well this is concerning. As we have all been told for years women can do anything as well or better than men. What evil patriachal oppression is holding women back here? I demand immediate quotas and government funding to enable these strong women to be just as brutal as men. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/21 01:05 AM |
| 2 | Victims have rights. They have responsibilities too (When they're men). Oh, children can give consent of they're boys. The opposite cannot happen.You believe 100% in age and gender equality? 100%?! So why stop at 13 year olds driving or smoking or having sex with adults then - let's make it 3 year olds to be 100% equal. There are obvious differences between ages and genders and laws quite rightly take that into account. I don't know why you are so keen to force abortion into the conversation. Are you suggesting that from conception both parents have no rights and should be legally compelled to act in the best interests of a fetus regardle… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/21 12:51 AM |
| 2 | Victims have rights. They have responsibilities too (When they're men). Oh, children can give consent of they're boys. The opposite cannot happen.That's one epic shift of goalposts from you. Your initial point was that it was reasonable for a male under the age of consent to be on the hook for child support if raped' justified by the comparison that an underage female rape victim also has to care for the child (ignoring the fact that she doesn't have to but may choose to.) You are now talking about whether the age of consent is too high which is a very different take. Minors should be treated as minors by the legal system that's obvious. … | /r/MensRights | 13/05/21 08:22 PM |
| 7 | Victims have rights. They have responsibilities too (When they're men). Oh, children can give consent of they're boys. The opposite cannot happen.What 'reasonable' men do you know in real life who think that a child who is raped bears any responsibility for the event or consequences? Whether the woman who raped him should be allowed to retain custody is a difficult question. But whether the boy - not man but boy - should be forced to pay child support to his rapist should be a fairly obvious no. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/21 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Woman stabbed ex in head after climbing through his house window (Not Guilty due to Insanity.....)You can't outright ban knives- people need to use them for various legitimate reasons. What you can't do is carry a knife bigger than 3 inches in public without a 'good reason'. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/21 12:08 AM |
| 2 | Men should be allowed to back off pregnancy upto 12 weeks into it.Pro life/choice is a completely separate debate. The premise of a paper abortion is based upon physical abortion being legal and I can't see a logical reason why not. It's a purely financial issue and you seem supportive of state support for single parents. I don't agree that the option should be "either raise the child together or give them up for adoption." Of course in an ideal world the parents would raise the child together but if one doesn't want to then I think it is preferable for a will… | /r/MensRights | 11/05/21 10:15 PM |
| 5 | Men should be allowed to back off pregnancy upto 12 weeks into it.I completely understand the 'childs best interests' argument. However this isn't applied to what is of huge benefit to the child - both parents being in their life. I do understand that you can't and shouldn't force disinterested parents to be involved in the childs interest but why force them to be financially involved? My view is simply that the state already spends a lot of money on children and we all benefit from that when we were children so there shouldn't be any objection to paying tax t… | /r/MensRights | 11/05/21 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Illegal opinionNo one shrugged it off. They're just not telling you or they've not come to terms with the impact yet. It impacts them daily anyway. Your response here shows that you do not actually know the impact. Different people react differently to trauma. Not better or worse just differently. Some of them have worked through it and now don't let it interfere with their daily life or even think about it for weeks/ months. Just because some of the people I am close to have a different response to how you th… | /r/MensRights | 06/05/21 05:32 PM |
| 2 | Actual instances of discrimination against womenIsn't it perverse that women want equality in numbers in all areas calling it discriminatory, yet object to the disruption their presence causes as harassment? While my stance is equality of opportunity not equity of outcome the truth is that outcome is easier to measure so understand why it is used as a metric - although anyone doing so should recogniseits flaws. I don't really know what point you are making here? That there is something wrong with wanting to not be harassed at work? Or that wo… | /r/MensRights | 06/05/21 03:16 PM |
| 3 | Illegal opinionI'm not disputing the damage rape causes - I know several men and women who have been victims of sexual assault including two family members of mine. Some have been able to shrug it off some haven't. However none of them have reached a level of hating the gender that assaulted them. Some understandably have trust issues in relationships but all can see it was an individual not a gender that assaulted them. The point I am making is the probability is not extremely high - let's consider how many i… | /r/MensRights | 06/05/21 02:27 AM |
| 2 | Actual instances of discrimination against womenJust to build on the blue collar point I have a friend who trained to be a plumber and faced a lot of derision for being a female plumber. It's not that she was denied the opportunity so much that it was made a more difficult/ unpleasant experience for her. Exactly the same that men can become primary school teachers but the experience is often more difficult/unpleasant. There are other forms of disadvantage which you could call discrimination - in sales there are general trends that person x se… | /r/MensRights | 06/05/21 01:21 AM |
| 5 | Illegal opinionThe difference is between thinking any man could be a rapist and assuming he is. I'm aware that every person I meet could be a serial killer but rational enough to know that the overwhelming majority aren't and it would be unhealthy for me to think they are. At a stage you have to weigh the certain mental strain of being constantly on guard against the probability of what you are trying to avoid. The negative of wearing a stab proof vest all day outweighs the low probability of it being useful. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/21 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Why does misandry manifest so differently than misogyny?You could swap the words misogyny and misandry in your first paragraph - both can manifest in all the things you listed. I agree that misandry is more socially accepted than misogyny so is often louder particularly on social media but both can and often do produce the same behaviours. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/21 12:15 AM |
| 8 | I was on C-span! Men’s rights activism in America, extremism.This is great to see. Hopefully some viewers will see the logic in what he said. | /r/MensRights | 30/04/21 12:28 AM |
| 3 | Sexist “safe space”I understand where you are coming from. Playing devils advocate learning to speak up is an important skill which gets easier with practice and can help with your self esteem. But you do what you are comfortable with. | /r/MensRights | 29/04/21 03:23 PM |
| 36 | Sexist “safe space”Definitely talk to the organiser about how you feel. It's a brave step to start something like that and it shouldn't make you feel worse! Part of a support group is going to be people venting and that's fine but if they are crossing the line you need to speak up. Doesn't have to be confrontational - for a lot of them it's just going to be not thinking about it. If you say it is upsetting and they continue then leave but if you don't say anything they wont know. If you ever want someone to talk t… | /r/MensRights | 28/04/21 09:38 PM |
| 1 | I need help understanding (not sure how else to put it)There is a neutrally termed movement for equality- egalitarianism. My belief is that advocating for equality from everyone's perspective is impossible for an individual to do - we all have different personal experiences which shape our world view. I cannot and should not try and say what a black persons experience of race is because I'm not black. I cannot and should not try and say what a womans experience of gender is because I'm not a woman. It is far better (imo) for people to speak for thei… | /r/MensRights | 27/04/21 11:49 PM |
| 7 | It's not logical to discount feminism because you think they all hate menI don't discount feminism because I think they hate all men. I have good friends who consider themselves feminists so know that isnt true. I discount feminism as a means to gender equality because it falsely states gender inequality is because of patriachy and women being oppressed by men. It's efforts will always be flawed because it is based on a false premise. Feminism is great at progressing womens rights which is obviously good. It is not great at progressing gender equality because it is o… | /r/MensRights | 27/04/21 11:31 PM |
| 6 | I’m a feminist, what more can I do?It's very difficult with the speaking over thing! I don't mean it as a direct criticism just a general point that it is far better to let different 'groups' speak for themselves than assume their experience' but how you can advocate for a group without stereotyping to some level I don't know. Part of the reason I'm not a big fan of identity politics is it almost dehumanises people into categories. I think societal standards is a much better way of putting it. It's the same point but makes it mor… | /r/MensRights | 26/04/21 04:28 AM |
| 8 | I’m a feminist, what more can I do?I think when you say you 'advocate for people across the board' that is a noble sentiment but it is easy to fall into the trap of 'speaking for people across the board.' It is great to be an 'ally' but harmful to tell people what their issues are or how they should be framed. I don't think it is helpful to talk about male issues as being the consequence of patriachy and painting men as oppressors. It's not only inaccurate but feels a lot like victim blaming/ gaslighting. Equally it's incredibly … | /r/MensRights | 26/04/21 03:40 AM |
| 5 | Female Streamer in Bikini for Entire Stream -Twitch: Cool Male Streamer Shows Image of Woman in a Bikini for 5 min: Twitch drops cereal bowl and clumsily pecks at their keyboards banning man (I "really" like the equal treatment here)🤦God this is embarrassing. Woman shows herself in a bikini = images of her. Man shows someone else in a bikini (and from these comments apparently their contact info?!) = images of someone else. This is not about their genders it is about privacy. If I wanted to put my private info on here it would be up to me. If I put private info of someone else on here it is obviously different. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/21 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Wife abandons husband and son for 10 years and wants family backThere are a lot of addicts who have to prove abstinence to regain custody - you can have ankle bracelets which record 24/7 if you drink alcohol' scheduled drug tests etc. I have known a few men go through this to prove they are sober and capable of some level of custody. If she pushes legally I would just express your concerns given her history and suggest that she has to engage with drug services and prove sobriety for several months before any time alone with the kids - most judges would suppo… | /r/MensRights | 25/04/21 03:41 PM |
| 3 | But they choose to have a child? Just like the father can choose to go on paternity leave? And if the woman can choose to not have the responsibility of looking after the child then the father can choose to not have the responsibility?What’s better, a significantly higher chance of a child living in poverty or the assumed mental / financial strain of child support? You are making this a binary choice when it isn't. As you say "Single parents are already 50% more likely to live in poverty, even when on benefits." This suggests that the existing support network is insufficient regardless of child support. So my answer to your question would be to increase state support of all parents. Obviously this has to be paid for but there… | /r/MensRights | 23/04/21 06:10 PM |
| 3 | But they choose to have a child? Just like the father can choose to go on paternity leave? And if the woman can choose to not have the responsibility of looking after the child then the father can choose to not have the responsibility?There is no denying that a woman having an abortion removes a child to be cared for. The question is whether a man should pay for a child that he wanted removed. The reality is that children already cost the government a lot of money regardless of parental situation. Also there are children whos dad is dead/ unidentified and the state supports them. So the argument clearly isn't that the child needs financial support from the father to survive but that if we can make the dad pay instead of the g… | /r/MensRights | 23/04/21 05:01 PM |
| 4 | Domestic Violence billboards updateGood work! | /r/MensRights | 23/04/21 01:06 AM |
| 3 | Why is the safety of homeless single women, more important than the lives of the disproportionate amount of DYING elderly homeless men??there is real truth in self discipline for the sake of it alone, and men of my generation don't seem to be getting that Yeh this is it in a nutshell. I think it's true of men and women of millennial and younger ages but probably more prevalent in men. I'm a recovering alcoholic and believe me I get the self discipline/ not wallowing in self pity part!! Yeh the effect on life expectancy of being in a relationship is a weird one and does suggest there is something unequal going on there. The attit… | /r/MensRights | 23/04/21 12:27 AM |
| 2 | Why is the safety of homeless single women, more important than the lives of the disproportionate amount of DYING elderly homeless men??I just find it preposterous to ignore the very long history of vulnerable women being specifically targeted by serial killers, etc. Oh absolutely that is valid. I think it comes down to how you view it - are homeless shelters for women more urgent because they might be at higher risk of being killed specifically for being a woman. Or are homeless shelters for men more urgent because they might be at higher risk of being killed yet being a man is not the reason why they are killed. Being idealist… | /r/MensRights | 22/04/21 11:21 PM |
| 3 | Why is the safety of homeless single women, more important than the lives of the disproportionate amount of DYING elderly homeless men??Yeh so you are selecting one form of victimized - sexual assault - and disregarding all the others. How worried would you be sleeping on the side of the highway of being raped and murdered? It's highly unlikely for anyone regardless of demographic. I have slept in parks and yes there is a fear of attack but being rational you known it is unlikely. If you want to play identity politics then yes a homeless women is more likely to be raped and a homeless man is more likely to be murdered. Point is … | /r/MensRights | 22/04/21 10:24 PM |
| 3 | Why is the safety of homeless single women, more important than the lives of the disproportionate amount of DYING elderly homeless men??It's likely that women are far more vulnerable to being victimized while homeless. Define victimized? I'm sure women are more likely to participate in certain behaviours when homeless and men others - I have known a lot of people who are/were homeless and the women were more likely to prostitute themselves and the men more likely to commit crimes. Both risky behaviours forced by desperation. It's probably also why there are fewer visibly homeless women than men, because I assume women will do wh… | /r/MensRights | 22/04/21 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Serious question: Am I full of shit or is this an overreaction?No I hadn't heard of those coffee houses. Seems like they ultimately suffered the same fate of turning into echo chambers. Unfortunately people tend to prefer hearing things they agree with and it would be very hard to change that attitude. I think the internet is a fantastic tool for encouraging discourse and learning but you can't stop people liking both reassurance and familiarity. Closest I see to a solution is culturally moving away from cancel culture and the idea that an opinion which off… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/21 09:09 PM |
| 2 | Serious question: Am I full of shit or is this an overreaction?Do you really think being aware and reading comments from "the other side" (that what it sounds like) is enough? Not particularly but I am not sure what else you can do other than vary your own life experience. I have been in a well paid job and have been homeless - while it broadened my experience and understanding I wouldn't suggest anyone becomes homeless just to gain more insight! online you commonly usually get information that you want to get (also when you look up what other political gro… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/21 01:46 PM |
| 19 | Poet says the concept of innocent until proven guilty doesn’t apply when the crime is rape.The justice system does treat accusers as innocent until proven guilty. Being asked to evidence a claim/ provide details is not being treated as guilty. In principle it also treats the accused as innocent until proven guilty - although obviously the person in this article doesn't like that. The media does tend to label accusers as victims which is biased when that victimhood has yet to be established. Also tends to treat the accused as 'probably guilty' pre trial. Obviously this varies depending… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/21 02:26 AM |
| 2 | Serious question: Am I full of shit or is this an overreaction?While I agree with the general point of diverse news sources I would say that you can effect what is recommended to you by searching out different opinions to begin with so that a more balanced selection is recommended to you. Questioning your views is the most important part of actually thinking for yourself. To answer your questions. They are useful and great when it comes to music type recommendations but yeh when it comes to political stuff you need to be aware. Everyone lives in a bubble of… | /r/MensRights | 19/04/21 11:41 PM |
| 5 | Why is supporting men's rights viewed as redpill or incel?I have never heard the term patriachy solely defined as 'women being disproportionately excluded from positions of power' - that's a remarkably watered down version! My question was if you believe patriachy still exists and I take it from this comment you do - which implicitly means you believe women are oppressed because of their gender and this oppression stems from men in power. I don't see any evidence of that. As with any claim the burden of proof is on the person claiming its existence not… | /r/MensRights | 19/04/21 01:10 AM |
| 6 | Why is supporting men's rights viewed as redpill or incel?Dont dismiss it as semantics it's an important and real distinction. Does the patriachy still exist? Yes or No question. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/21 12:36 AM |
| 5 | Why is supporting men's rights viewed as redpill or incel?Existed or exists? If you are saying existed in the past tense then dismantle the patriachy is meaningless as it has already happened. If you are saying it still exists then you are classifying women as presently being an oppressed group. I accept you can say 'patriachy used to exist it doesn't now but we are still dealing with the after effects.' I don't think that past society can be accurately or completely described as patriachy anyway' but just having feminists agree it no longer exists wou… | /r/MensRights | 19/04/21 12:13 AM |
| 13 | Why is supporting men's rights viewed as redpill or incel?By patriarchal society you mean a society where women are the oppressed and men the oppressors right? If so any feminist talking about dismantling the patriachy is implicitly stating that they believe a social system still exists where men are the oppressors of women. Any time they complain about more men being CEOs or politicians and worse gaslight men that societal problems they face are mens fault because there are more men in those positions (the patriachy hurts men too you know!) they are i… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/21 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Why men and women are actually treated the same in society, and why sexism against men doesn't existOk I get you and agree with that. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/21 05:48 AM |
| 1 | Why men and women are actually treated the same in society, and why sexism against men doesn't existI'm not downvoting. unless and/or until a transwoman is going to have sex with a man, she does not have to or need to disclose that she is trans. That's exactly what I was trying to say. Pre sex no need it's not relevant. Post sex I would feel I should have been told before. What exactly is the right time to bring it up is a difficult question - at what point between dating and sex? I get it's uncomfortable but the onus should be on the trans person to say something not to expect to be asked abo… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/21 05:41 AM |
| 9 | Ayeee guys congrajulations r/offmychest has listed us as an incel/redpill reddit!Yeh I posted about having the same happen to me but post didn't go up for some reason. I think it's a great shame as I liked that sub and have had some conversations where I seem to have helped people (or at least hope I did.) When I questioned it they said we will only discuss if you stop participating in hatereddits. Weak attempts at blackmailing people off this sub won't work it just reinforces the need to support mens rights if even discussing mens issues is considered hate speech. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/21 05:09 AM |
| 3 | Why men and women are actually treated the same in society, and why sexism against men doesn't existYeh it works both ways. I don't think either should have to say anything I'm just saying from a statistical view it makes more sense for the trans person to be the one raising it. I honestly don't know how I would feel about having sex with a trans person - will have to see if the situation arises which is unlikely enough I dont think about it. That said I wouldn't be happy if they told me they were trans after having sex. I would want to make an informed decision and feel if not quite lied to t… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/21 05:02 AM |
| 2 | Why men and women are actually treated the same in society, and why sexism against men doesn't existThe TL;DR version- if you want to make sure that you are having sex with a cis-woman, ask. I don't think it should be a crime not disclosing you are transgender ( although the recent suggestions that it should be sexual abuse if you are dishonest about your income/marital status etc. Would make this more questionable.) The issue I have with this is % of population. Less than 1% of the us population is transgender. So there is a very low likelihood. I think given this it is logical for the person… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/21 04:40 AM |
| 17 | TW - Male Suicide ResearchSeemed a very good thorough survey. Would be great if you could publish results / any paper you write off the back of this. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/21 06:51 PM |
| 3 | How feminism is hurting mens rightsDon't think I have seen anyone seriously saying they are against womens rights on here' feels like you are highlighting a non-issue. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/21 01:58 AM |
| 2 | Women don't now just get to decide if you were creepy or romantic. Now they get to decide if you're a criminal.Hi. I get your point that a lot of the comments are either defeatist or exaggerated. In practice it is unlikely that the law will lead to someone being arrested for an innocent comment - the article itself quotes an officer saying even if it wont result in prosecution please report it. But being questioned by police is a concern in itself and can damage reputation even if innocent. It's also natural to question what is the line on harassment here - if people are being told to change their behavi… | /r/MensRights | 17/04/21 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Banned from r/offmychest just for commenting on this sub! Anyone else had this?I was banned less than a minute after replying to a comment on here downplaying mens issues as being done by other men. Was so quick I think it's an alt account of a mod I replied to but they are ignoring me and can't do anything about it... It's a shame that I have been banned from a supportive sub where I have had conversations trying to help people of either gender because I participate in a sub that supports men. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/21 07:50 PM |
| 4 | My best friend’s a feminist and I’m really terrible at debatesSigh.. “a minority” dude we all know that men mostly do violent crimes. out of all the shootings that happened in america only 3 were females while there were 116 made by men. Yes the majority of recorded violent crimes are committed by men. That does not change the fact that it is a minority of men who commit this majority of crimes. Surely you understand that. As to why this minority of men commit more violent crimes (or crimes in general) it is widely established and accepted that those at th… | /r/MensRights | 16/04/21 06:22 PM |
| 1 | What are the goals of this movement?No that makes sense.. you can have core values (bringing the male side of gender equality into the conversation) while having different opinions within that (what inequalities need more attention / how to go about it.) | /r/MensRights | 16/04/21 02:46 PM |
| 2 | What are the goals of this movement?Everyone will have a different answer - no group is a monolith. If it's just about giving men all the attention, why should I support this movement instead of looking for another that looks after men and women as a whole? My stance on this is that while it is in principle better to look after men and women as a whole in practice everyone has different experiences and biases. It is impossible to approach any issue from a truly egalitarian perspective as we all see and prioritise different problem… | /r/MensRights | 16/04/21 01:38 AM |
| 2 | Father’s have no rightsKeep positive things can and do change. My mum told us all sorts of lies about my dad. He now has a decent relationship with all of us kids and I haven't spoken to my mum in 3 years. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/21 12:23 AM |
| 2 | Would you guys appreciate an Opposite World? Included the female privilege checklistThe problem with that cartoon - like a lot of gender stuff - is telling people their experience. In it they have an example of a man saying he does 50% of the housework and tell him to 'check with his partner if that's true' implying he is probably wrong (silly man doesn't she all she does!) and even if it is that's not the point statistically it's true so his experience doesn't matter. It also exaggerates saying vegetables will be left rotting on the counter if the woman doesn't put it away - I… | /r/MensRights | 15/04/21 07:09 PM |
| 6 | When have you got discriminated because of your gender?When I was 18 walked into a pub with a help wanted sign. The owner told me straight that they wanted to hire a woman as they tended to sell more pints. I don't mind it - honestly I think employers should be able to discriminate if they believe whatever type of person will perform better because of x characteristic particularly in sales - but the brazenness of it did make me think. The most concerning thing I have seen was probably in rehab. Unsurprisingly addicts often have relationship issues. … | /r/MensRights | 15/04/21 05:50 PM |
| 5 | Sweden faces sperm deficit as pandemic keeps donors away from clinicsThat's ok they can just use bone marrow right? /s | /r/MensRights | 15/04/21 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Why do people always say false allegations hurt the credibility of real victims?Of course there is still reason not to make false accusations otherwise everyone would be doing it... This is just a classic example of how you can spin something either way when the reality is likely that there is truth in both sides. As I keep saying it doesn't need to be a choice. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/21 04:17 AM |
| 0 | Why do people always say false allegations hurt the credibility of real victims?their numbers would decrease and real cases would have more credibility. Yes so you are saying yourself that false accusations hurts the credibility of real victims but for you the issue is false accusers not being punished enough rather than the effect in real victims - can't it be both? While I do understand the rhetoric that more severe punishments would deter real victims coming forwards the fact that the majority of sex offences are no verdict either way in court means it is unlikely any bu… | /r/MensRights | 15/04/21 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Why do people always say false allegations hurt the credibility of real victims?Agreed. But being pragmatic if the result is less false accusations that's a good thing regardless of what causes it. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/21 01:57 AM |
| 5 | Why do people always say false allegations hurt the credibility of real victims?Because they do hurt the credibility of real victims? False allegations existing and being talked about naturally lessens the credibility of testimony from real victims by raising the possibility that those real victims may be lying. If nobody ever lied about sexual assault people would naturally believe victims more. I agree the primary victim of a false allegation is obviously the accused. But it is valid to say real victims are also harmed by false testimony. I see it as a case of using the e… | /r/MensRights | 15/04/21 12:28 AM |
| 8 | Just another feminist being a lying hypocrite. In other news, today is a day ending in y.Do you think there are any areas of life that men are disadvantaged socially or legally? (Hint - there are.) Is it therefore legitimate for men to discuss those issues? If we support gender equality that entails looking at both genders advantages and disadvantages. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/21 03:06 PM |
| 18 | AHS taking out of context posts and adding their own context to say that this sub is white supremacist.You could cherry pick comments from pretty much any sub' add commentary and make it look negative. They aren't showing the comments they are showing a select few without context. World of difference. Ending the post saying this sub doesn't focus on mens issues like MGM when there are at least weekly posts about that shows the motive is not to genuinely portray the sub but to misrepresent it. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/21 04:06 AM |
| 2 | Rethinking whether I should go to uniGo. It's a great experience. Unless you go around throwing your political views in peoples faces it's unlikely many people will care. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/21 08:47 PM |
| 12 | When narcissism confronts feminism. On the advice of her inner voice Meghan Markle Will Not Attend Prince Philip's Funeral.How did you read 'on the advice of her doctor' as 'on the advice of her inner voice.' ?? | /r/MensRights | 11/04/21 01:10 AM |
| 22 | Judge dismisses case against man for sending birthday card to daughter. Dismissing the charge brought under the Domestic Violence Act against the man, the judge stated:“I mean, if we have reached a stage in our society where a man is deemed to have breached a safety order by sending a birthday card"I'm glad the case was dismissed. But let's be fair there is a court order that bars him communicating with the women or her dependants. Sending a birthday card to his daughter can be considered communicating with her so he has breached the court order. You wouldn't think it is enough to go to court for but all depends on the context of why he is barred from communicating to begin with. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/21 01:05 AM |
| 3 | Looking for Answers1) When men say 'men have it harder than women', why do they say this and how do they get to this conclusion? Do you mean men or MRA? You have female MRA just like you have male feminists. As to why - it is statistically indisputable that men 'have it harder' in some areas and women 'have it harder' in others - even feminism acknowledges this with the condescending 'patriachy hurts men too.' For the most part all MRA is trying to do is draw attention to valid mens issues (and ask they be dealt w… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/21 04:13 AM |
| 52 | Thoughts on this perspective? (genuinely asking)Rose tinted glasses - if you start with the view patriachy exists then it is easy to blame mens issues on it. If you examine the facts without this preconception nobody would draw the conclusion that mens issues are the result of a society built by and for men whereby men actively promote this system and oppress women. The post also contradicts itself. Mentions that women commit suicide more but men choose more violent methods (true but guns are a terrible example given this is also the case in … | /r/MensRights | 10/04/21 02:31 AM |
| 2 | The next time someone asks "why don't men cry" just send them thisWhen are people going to accept that everyone experiences and expresses emotions differently Some people dont want to talk about it and will be upset in private then move on. Some people want to talk about it but just to let it out not for advice. Some want to talk about it and want practical advice. Etc. That is all fine there is not a correct or incorrect way of dealing with emotions. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/21 02:12 AM |
| 7 | I'm girl and I need advice concerning men's rightsThere is a fine line between victim blaming and acknowledging individual fault. The fact is everyone both makes mistakes in life and are affected by their circumstances. From what I have seen of Peterson his point is more a case of stop feeling sorry for yourself and look at what you can do to change things rather than 'it's all your fault.' I am a recovering alcoholic and have been to rehab several times. A key part of that is people taking personal responsibility - acknowledging that yes they … | /r/MensRights | 10/04/21 12:23 AM |
| 1 | How should I disabuse my sons from seeking marriage and LTRs?I personally don't think you should. Teach them to pursue happiness and that their worth doesn't depend on having a relationship but don't discourage them seeking out something beneficial and enjoyable even if there are risks. I have attended a few fathers 4 justice meetings (my dad was involved for years struggling to see us so it was a nice 'win' to show others that we now had a good relationship.) I will always remember a bloke I met there speaking passionately to me that the negative experie… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/21 12:13 AM |
| 1 | Legally paternity tests should be made mandatory. It affects the male more negatively so it isn’t mandatory, but you can get one yourself as you should. Society makes TV shows to profit off of men being shamed for raising a kid they did not know wasn’t theirs in the first place.I presume not but its theoretical so just speculation. The difference is that as the woman is the one pregnant it is obviously very difficult to hide a pregnancy and birth. Whereas a man can get another woman pregnant without it being obvious that he was the one to do so. The point is more about paternity than infedility. Infidelity is not a government concern but paternity is. Loyalty is not the issue but obligation to provide for the resulting child. The only way I can see a requirement to inf… | /r/MensRights | 09/04/21 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Legally paternity tests should be made mandatory. It affects the male more negatively so it isn’t mandatory, but you can get one yourself as you should. Society makes TV shows to profit off of men being shamed for raising a kid they did not know wasn’t theirs in the first place.This isn't about establishing loyalty - none of the governments business if someone is cheating. It's about establishing paternity and the legal ramifications of that. The only way this would apply to a woman is if another woman claims her husband has got her pregnant and the test proves if the kid is his or not. That would not prove he had not cheated just that he is not the father and liable for 18 years of child support. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/21 02:51 PM |
| 3 | This entire subreddit has turned into a race thingIt depends if you view it as having to be about the rights of all men or considering certain subgroups within men. BLM provoked conversation about the specific challenges black men face - both down to being black and being men. The reddit admins said neither white people or men count as needing protection from hate speech (or however they phrased it.) This provokes conversation about the specific challenges white men face - both down to being white and being men. If something hit the news about … | /r/MensRights | 07/04/21 04:58 PM |
| 4 | Any time feminists or men say men have privilege, or there is a patriarchy, just tell theem the story of Brian Banks. Never forget the injustice he faced.So you are saying the reason this man was mistreated is solely because he is black and has nothing to do with him being male? If being male is an aspect of his mistreatment then it is fair to mention it on a sub about male rights no? It doesn't matter if the crime he is falsely accused of is against a woman or not. What matters is that he was not treated fairly in the judicial process and the apparent lack of punishment for the individual who accused him. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/21 05:26 PM |
| 6 | Any time feminists or men say men have privilege, or there is a patriarchy, just tell theem the story of Brian Banks. Never forget the injustice he faced.So black men aren't men? You can make the point that black men are more affected in the subgroup of men but it is also true that black men are more affected in the subgroup of black people. It is a matter of both black rights and Male rights not solely black rights. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/21 05:21 PM |
| 4 | What are your greatest fears and desires out of the child custody process?1) Goes without saying but lawyer! 2) Depending on the age of the kids their wishes should be taken into account. 3) Children remember bad behaviour from parents. Even if she starts bad mouthing you to them never bad mouth her to them. When they grow up they will remember who was antagonistic. 4) Make sure you know information like their Dr and teachers so you can demonstrate being involved in their life. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/21 05:09 PM |
| 12 | Does anyone else struggle with mental illness? I’ve been on antidepressants for over a year and I’m switching them soon. A huge reason why I feel this terrible is because of men’s treatment in society.Yes - I am also on antidepressants. I understand the way men are treated being a factor in your overall mental health and also (certainly in my case) having shaped certain negative experiences along the way. If focusing on mens treatment beyond your own life is a strain then take a step away from it online. You come first. Also if you are in the UK the NHS is actually paying a fair bit of attention to mental health for once thanks to lockdown. Probably a queue but you can get 6 free counselling … | /r/MensRights | 06/04/21 04:38 AM |
| 5 | About consistency.I can agree with the concept of feminism and mens rights working together (if from opposite sides) towards gender equality. I honestly think that while egalitarianism is a noble concept the reality is that peoples views are shaped by their experiences and in many ways it is better to have an honest conversation with different views than try and fail to equally consider all viewpoints. While I can strive to understand I cannot truly know the experience of a woman/homosexual/indian or anything els… | /r/MensRights | 06/04/21 04:07 AM |
| 8 | How to ACTUALLY Make Women Safer. #NotAllMenI know it's a cultural difference from the middle east. But as far as most western culture is concerned there is no reason a woman shouldn't be able to go out at any time without needing a male companion for protection or whatever. Going out at night isn't a sign of bad personality or intentions there are many legitimate reasons to do so. Would you consider a man being out at night a bad sign or just women? As to your last paragraph yes people should be able to wear shorts in the street. I think… | /r/MensRights | 05/04/21 06:56 PM |
| 5 | Who says women never lie about rape?I don't think there are more false accusations than actual rape cases. I do think that sexual assault is very hard to prove as you would think the majority of cases don't have witnesses and even if they do those witnesses are likely to know one or both parties and potentially be biased themselves. If two people go into a room together it is completely one word against another whether what happens in that room was consensual or not. The reality of that is that a lot of true sexual assault charges… | /r/MensRights | 05/04/21 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Gender Inequality Isn't the Problem With the DraftI thought the comment was trying to draw attention to the daughter aspect not the as a mother aspect given they chose the quote about daughters not sons but might be wrong And yeh people care more about issues that have or may personally affect them. It's the same thing that has driven many mums of sons away from feminism. I dont mind it - perfectly natural. If I see someone raising money for cancer because their gran has it I dont think ah you are only bothered now it affects you why aren't you… | /r/MensRights | 05/04/21 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Gender Inequality Isn't the Problem With the DraftOh I never knew that (am British so not an issue here.) I understand the idea of compensation although can't ever see that happening and it would be a mess to quantify. I do get why you suggest it. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/21 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Gender Inequality Isn't the Problem With the DraftWhat would addressing the historical inequalities about the draft look like? | /r/MensRights | 05/04/21 01:09 AM |
| 2 | Gender Inequality Isn't the Problem With the DraftI get that logic. Making it a gender neutral draft will probably help get rid of it by making more people care. Or at least result in some funny mental gymnastics about why it's unfair to expect women to do it. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/21 09:35 PM |
| 0 | Gender Inequality Isn't the Problem With the DraftYes same kind thing really. If people here think the draft is unjust then they should want it to be removed. If you agree with the draft but just think it's sexist then fine say women should do it to. If you disagree with the draft but think women should have to do it just because men do then that isn't advocating for male rights it's just saying not fair women should do it to! | /r/MensRights | 04/04/21 08:49 PM |
| -1 | Gender Inequality Isn't the Problem With the DraftBoth choices do fix the gender discrimination aspect. But you saying pick either implies you have no preference. I am just saying that I think one option is preferable and that was the tone of the article. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/21 06:09 PM |
| -6 | Gender Inequality Isn't the Problem With the DraftBut they aren't equal picks. One removes a male problem the other makes it a universal problem. What is wrong with an article saying it would be better to remove the problem for men than make it a problem for everyone? | /r/MensRights | 04/04/21 04:38 PM |
| 0 | Gender Inequality Isn't the Problem With the DraftI agree. The point is that option a of banning it removes a problem that men exclusively face. Option b just makes it so that women also face the same problem. While option b is gender equal' I think option a is infinitely preferable. It's the difference between removing a male problem and just dragging women down to having the same problem in the name of equality. Surely you would rather the draft didn't exist than just affected everyone? That was the point made in the article. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/21 04:14 PM |
| 3 | Gender Inequality Isn't the Problem With the DraftThat doesn't 'say it all in one sentence' it shows how you can misrepresent an article by picking out one sentence in isolation. That was said a paragraph after "As a mom with young sons, I shudder at this prospect." She was saying that the prospect of her sons being enlisted was horrible and the prospect of her daughters being added to that risk was also horrible. The whole point of the article was that the draft should not exist full stop. She literally says "Instead of a more equitable applic… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/21 03:38 PM |
| 7 | @thetinmen once again hitting the nail on the headOk how would you suggest we change how we raise boys? I would suggest: Replacing rhetoric like 'protect your daughters and educate your sons' with 'protect and educate your children' would be a good way to start. Treat posts like 'kill all men' with the same disdain that 'kill all women' would get. Change an education system which has been known for decades to favour girls both in the style of education and grading. Encourage more male role models for young boys by promoting fairer custody arran… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/21 06:23 PM |
| 3 | The average child attends a school where most Teachers are Women and most Janitors are Men.If you consider questioning hyperbolic nonsense as shady behaviour then I guess I am acting shady. Please show me an anti-man comment I have made. I am a man and oppose misandry. I also question some posts on this sub when I disagree with them - just a personal opinion. Unless you want an echo chamber? | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 06:08 PM |
| 0 | The average child attends a school where most Teachers are Women and most Janitors are Men.What a load of horseshit. I don't want to see all jobs 50/50 on gender just people being free to pursue the career they want. Men do have the opportunity to be teachers as well as janitors- If less men want to get the qualifications and be teachers then that's up to them. My brother is a teacher because he enjoys it. The rest of your post is just incoherent assumptions with massive jumps in logic. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 06:00 PM |
| 7 | A church barred a woman from winning a fishing trip because the pastor wanted to avoid a 'false accusations'True. Equally if it is reasonable to say something like 'It's not all men but I don't know which until it's too late' you can apply that to false accusations. If you can say men should cross the street in public to keep women safe then this guy can say he doesn't want women to come on a private trip to feel safe. I think it is an overreaction but can understand that it is just avoiding a potential risk in the era of believe all women. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 08:37 PM |
| 1 | How is it even possible?For a 7 year old to be attempting sexual behaviour you would expect them to have been exposed to or at least witnessed sexual abuse themself. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 06:01 PM |
| 10 | It's no longer equal pay for equal work, but equal pay for any workSo sometimes pay increases aren't about demand as much as retention. This is really the same thing though. If you can't retain employees then you need to source more. If there is a large pool of potential employees available with minimal training required then retention isn't an issue. If there is a smaller supply or training is more extensive it becomes worth retaining them so you pay them more to do so. There are plenty to jobs with a very high turnover of staff because they are easily replace… | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 02:48 PM |
| 1 | The question feminists can not answer (continued)But the assessment of whether this happens more and whether that is because of gender is not objective. Yes. Doesn't mean that assessment is necessarily wrong just because it is not objective. She may have been seeing something not there'vshe may not' or it might have been because of something else. I wouldn't out and out dismiss the possibility of it being at least partly down to gender. Seems you aren't going to answer the male teacher question but that is a reverse that does happen - sometime… | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 02:43 AM |
| 1 | The question feminists can not answer (continued)In her own judgement or by an objective test? Of course there is not an objective test for this. How does she know how customers interact with other plumbers? By witnessing it and comparing it to her own treatment. I agree personal presentation may have been the issue not gender. I am answering your questions can you answer mine in return? Do you think male teachers would describe a similar experience to my friend as a plumber and would you consider gender a factor in their experience? In her vi… | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 12:25 AM |
| 0 | The question feminists can not answer (continued)Ok so if I said male nursery/ primary school teachers faced stereotypical judgement would you not thing that's true. Acknowledging that men face judgement in some professions while dismissing the judgement women face in some professions is daft. She would obviously be able to answer specifically better than me but it seemed to be being questioned on her work / competency when she was correct by both customers and instructors more than male colleagues. She might have got extra help I dont know bu… | /r/MensRights | 31/03/21 11:33 PM |
| 1 | The question feminists can not answer (continued)To focus on the legal aspect I can only think of situations (judicial system) where it is a disadvantage to be male I thought that was an answer. Legally no I dont think there is nowadays. As you have now added educational/institutional.. Education- overall men have it worse but there are certain subjects that are (through choice) male dominated. You can say that women get more grants etc. In those subjects and while true they do face some discrimination in those subjects / when in the professio… | /r/MensRights | 31/03/21 11:11 PM |
| 2 | The question feminists can not answer (continued)I think anyone sensible would accept that there are a variety of situations where it is beneficial to be male or female so both can be said to have 'privilege' in different circumstances. I don't like the word privilege but if you really want to you can call the advantageous situations privilege and the disadvantageous ones discrimination. To focus on the legal aspect I can only think of situations (judicial system) where it is a disadvantage to be male - call it female privilege if you want. Th… | /r/MensRights | 31/03/21 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Are men inherently seen as disposable by society?I get the point that there are big differences and yes if you gave me the choice between circumcising my son or FGM on my daughter I would obviously choose circumcising the son as it is less bad. But we both seem to agree that both practices should end. The difference in severity does not change that both are violations of bodily autonomy so there is some logic to the comparison - it highlights the hypocrisy if someone is against FGM and for circumcision. In the west one is much more widely crit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/21 01:00 AM |
| 2 | Are men inherently seen as disposable by society?I agree that the more extreme versions of FGM seem much worse than circumcision. I think the comparison is more of a 'why does bodily autonomy matter with baby girls not baby boys' thing rather than saying they are as bad as each other. The common response is to downplay or justify male circumcision. As to why they think women are choosing this for men the choice is obviously down to parents but many women do encourage the practice. I have had a woman I am friends with encourage me to get circum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/21 12:32 AM |
| 2 | Are men inherently seen as disposable by society?Just to chime in - I live in the UK and had a woman I am friends with encourage me to get circumcised and insisting 'all women prefer it trust me.' Have had the sentiment expressed by several different women that it's cleaner/ looks better etc. Not just an American problem and not something solely enforced by men (although yes the 'make my baby look like me' effect does exist.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/21 12:25 AM |
| 4 | Hey r/mensrightsYou made this post an hour ago. You also made a comment on this sub 2 hours ago. Why do you think you are banned? | /r/MensRights | 30/03/21 09:00 PM |
| 3 | Why the 97% of women claim is falseThe questions asked to get that 97% figure are: Being cat called or whistled Being stared at Unwelcome touching' body rubbing or groping In person comments or jokes Unwelcome sexual advances or requests for sexual favours Being physically followed Indecent exposure Online comments or jokes Sharing of suggesting or indecent content online or in person Being forced into participating in sexual behaviour Had images taken and/or shared without your consent The 97% figure isn't strictly false. All th… | /r/MensRights | 29/03/21 04:47 PM |
| 36 | How is being forced to do something based on your gender not sexism?Barbie wouldn't have to beat up superman. She could just say he sexually assaulted her with his x ray vision and let the mob get him for her. | /r/MensRights | 28/03/21 12:49 PM |
| 1 | Elizabeth Hobson: They Never Let A Good Tragedy Go To WasteYeh I get the difference and should have said potentially carries a bigger sentence. Just seems strange to say if I attack someone because they are tall I will be charged for assault but if I attack someone because they are black I will be charged for assault and a hate crime. As you say motivation is hard to prove and this law just gives judges more freedom to discriminate sentences based on their opinion of events not the factual events. I know motivation does apply to crimes and sentences - s… | /r/MensRights | 27/03/21 06:08 PM |
| 6 | [M31] I was sexually harassed by a girl in a pool park (ie. unwanted advances)I'm not defending her... I'm just saying you calling her dumb eye candy is an odd way to talk about someone who assaulted you. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/21 02:12 PM |
| 8 | [M31] I was sexually harassed by a girl in a pool park (ie. unwanted advances)I don't go along with believe all victims and that works both ways. If what you are saying is true than yes you were and sorry that happened. But my comments would stand regardless of the genders involved. It's strange to repeatedly say someone who assaulted you is dumb eye candy and suggest you only went to the pool with them because of this. Doesn't mean you are asking to be assaulted. Does mean it is phrased strangely. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/21 02:09 PM |
| 10 | [M31] I was sexually harassed by a girl in a pool park (ie. unwanted advances)No I'm not. If the pronouns were swapped and the girl kept describing the guy as stupid eye candy it would still come across strangely. Are you trying to say you platonically went to the pool with her because she is dumb and has big tits? Because be fair that does sound odd. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/21 02:03 PM |
| 7 | [M31] I was sexually harassed by a girl in a pool park (ie. unwanted advances)Not platonically as you implied | /r/MensRights | 27/03/21 01:59 PM |
| 7 | [M31] I was sexually harassed by a girl in a pool park (ie. unwanted advances)Ok..? I know you said English is a second language and that's fine when you get a sentence structure wrong or something. But no offence choosing to go on about her intelligence and boob size has nothing to do with that and makes it sound like a shitpost to me | /r/MensRights | 27/03/21 01:51 PM |
| 23 | [M31] I was sexually harassed by a girl in a pool park (ie. unwanted advances)Why have you written it like this? Calling her eye candy' mentioning the size of her boobs twice' mentioning she is a virgin' saying she has a low IQ and is immature' you only met her because you didn't have available friends etc... Just comes across a bit condescending. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/21 01:45 PM |
| 2 | Elizabeth Hobson: They Never Let A Good Tragedy Go To WasteHonestly I mostly enjoy your contrarian comments on this sub. I get the concept of hate crimes in trying to combat discrimination. It does seem a bit daft to me as it is quite hard to prove someone's motivation for a crime and the idea that punching someone with different colour skin to me carries a higher sentence than someone with the same colour skin is an odd concept. It reinforces the legal importance of identity as a victim being as if not more important than the crime itself. To give an e… | /r/MensRights | 27/03/21 01:34 PM |
| 7 | "r/mensrights is a woman hating cesspool of incels." Also subs for women:Ah punching up. When punching is unacceptable unless you sit higher on the oppression table than the person you are attacking. I completely respect complaining if someone is creepily staring at you in the gym but let's not justify it with oppression Olympics it doesn't matter what 'group' you or the starer fall into. Also a huge difference between staring and looking. Fun fact every human regardless of gender looks at the genitals of someone they meet for the first time regardless of their gende… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/21 12:48 PM |
| 8 | whats this subs opinion towards trans rights?Something I support in principle like any humans rights but don't specifically concern myself. As it relates to this sub and mens rights/ debate on gender equality trans people can offer a lot of insight on how differently society treats men or women by having in a way experienced both sides of the fence. That being said if you have lived with gender dysphoria your views and experiences prior to transition are likely to be different to a cis person. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/21 11:51 PM |
| 2 | “We don’t actually mean all men but it’s easier to generalize and say men.”Radical, man-hating feminists may be loud, but I assure you vast majority of women don't have such bitterness toward men. I never suggested most women do have that view' agree that they don't. Was just saying its weird that those vocal few who do spread such opinions are so well supported in main stream media. It would be hypocritical of me to suggest women should contest these opinions if I dont think men should have to police other men but it is the acceptance of misandry and condemnation of m… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 03:26 PM |
| 6 | Highly curious about you people's opinion on this.To my mind a lot of it seems to come from the confusion between victim blaming and victim profiling. Recording the specifics of a crime is just good and proper investigation. This includes recording the victims actions and attire. That is not necessarily blaming the victim for their actions/attire. A crude example would be noting that jack the ripper primarily killed prostitutes. It was an important part of the attempts to catch the killer to profile his victims. That might then extend to warnin… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/21 08:15 PM |
| 3 | “We don’t actually mean all men but it’s easier to generalize and say men.”I agree with you that a generalisation like 'men are disgusting' by someone who has had string of bad experiences with men doesn't really offend me. If someone wants to have a moan fine. When that moan becomes a consistent targeted world view it is more concerning. Men aren't a group in that sense. There is no such thing as "male solidarity" This is the part I find interesting. I agree that being male is more of a category than a cohesive group. However If men are not part of a group then why ar… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/21 07:14 PM |
| 32 | [Facebook] “Womxn”: ThE pAtRiArCy! Also “Womxn”: ChIvAlRy Is DeAd!People getting upset by someone holding a door open for them just want to complain and are trying to find something to moan about. It's this weird assumption that you are holding the door open because they are a woman and not just someone else using the same door as you/ nothing special. The implication that you are doing it for some purpose beyond just being polite says a lot about how they approach the world. Had a woman I am friends with question why I held the door open for an old man in a s… | /r/MensRights | 19/03/21 10:10 PM |
| 2 | Can this movement exist without feminism?You might view this as a reactionary movement but that doesn't make it a fact that it is. Asserting your opinion as a fact is a poor way to open a question. I absolutely believe that some of the issues raised on this sub would be discussed under different banners - they already are - bias against men in family court has several groups dedicated just to that issue. Like a lot of such groups some of it is attempting to change the system and some of it is just support from people who have suffered … | /r/MensRights | 13/03/21 07:30 PM |
| 4 | "entitlement" when used in the realm of gender discussions is a word I've come to dislike. This is why.The point is that yes women do incur extra expenses solely for the fact they are women (tampons) but that men do incur extra expenses for being men (needing more calories to live.) I don't believe men buying more food puts them at any more of a disadvantage than women buying tampons- both have to spend more on different things. Of course I dont think women should be punished for needing less food just as men shouldn't be punished for not needing tampons. However highlighting one cost (tampons) w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/03/21 05:02 PM |
| 5 | "entitlement" when used in the realm of gender discussions is a word I've come to dislike. This is why.This has been a strange thread to read. I get your point that tampons are something women have to pay for that men dont due to biology. It is also a fair point that men have to spend more on food than women due to biology. Indeed food is more of a necessity than hygiene products. Yes both men and women have to buy food but you saying that is deliberately sidestepping the fact that men have to buy more not through choice but necessity. If you think both genders having to buy an item makes the dif… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/03/21 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Teach me how to debate with feminists teach me how to answer their questions properly especially in fourms and meetings?Well according to this link the main one which stands out is South Korea. The question is if there a clear correlation between feminist countries and birth rate? I have to give up my phone for the night so will look at it more and continue tomorrow if you want to | /r/MensRights | 06/03/21 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Teach me how to debate with feminists teach me how to answer their questions properly especially in fourms and meetings?I asked you to explain why you thought feminism was the reason for falling birth rates in developed countries. Your response was initially 'it's obvious' when pressed for an answer you have said 'all developed countries have a birth rate below 2.1' Stating the level of birth rate is not an explanation why you think feminism is the cause. There may well be a first world country with a birth rate above 2.1 I'm not going to check. Unless your point is that there is one first world country with a bi… | /r/MensRights | 06/03/21 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Teach me how to debate with feminists teach me how to answer their questions properly especially in fourms and meetings?Yeh that is my point. Economic and social development is what causes a falling birth rate not feminism. | /r/MensRights | 06/03/21 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Teach me how to debate with feminists teach me how to answer their questions properly especially in fourms and meetings?Feminism is a cancer does not = feminism is the cause of dropping birth rates. You dont seem to want to explain your opinion but are just doubling down on it goes without saying. That's a shame but up to you I guess. | /r/MensRights | 06/03/21 07:38 PM |
| 2 | Teach me how to debate with feminists teach me how to answer their questions properly especially in fourms and meetings?This is the same in Nigeria nowadays but the fertitility rate is still over 6 children per mother. Fair point although not to the same extent. Do you think feminism is the primary difference between Nigeria and countries with lower birth rates or that other socioeconomic factors are the explanation. Seriously? Obviously you have internet and google. Use it. Don't use me as a search engine. Unfortunately google doesn't contain your personal opinion. I am aware some aspects of feminism could be co… | /r/MensRights | 06/03/21 07:23 PM |
| 3 | Teach me how to debate with feminists teach me how to answer their questions properly especially in fourms and meetings?I think it's a bit unfair on feminism to blame it for the falling birthrate in western countries. I believe that increased availability of and education around contraception' improved infant mortality rates and increased disparity in cost of living vs average income are the main factors. Please tell me why do you think feminism is the cause? | /r/MensRights | 06/03/21 06:49 PM |
| 3 | Is it just me?I said women have been oppressed before and were fighting for equal rights, but you guys immediately threw my claim out the window. I can't speak for other commenters. For myself the phrasing that 'women have been oppressed' is problematic because it implies the only women were oppressed' this was done on account of their gender and that the oppression was done by men. I said in my original reply why I believe that to be inaccurate. Saying both genders faced different struggles is more accurate … | /r/MensRights | 28/02/21 03:47 PM |
| 2 | Is it just me?You referred to feminism 'back in the old days' then this person replied talking about 1908. What date did you have in mind for 'the old days' of feminism if 1908 isn't going back far enough? You have made reference to civilisation 1000s of years ago in other comments - is this what you mean by the old days of feminism when that is long before most people would consider the modern concept of feminism to have developed? I get the point that there have been many injustices faced by many categories… | /r/MensRights | 27/02/21 08:15 PM |
| 1 | One of the teachers at our school sent this to our yearI'm interested to see why you think this? Portugal had a big drug problem' decriminalised basically all drugs and saw both general use and problematic use/ addiction plummet. Look at the problems prohibition caused in the US. Removing the legal supply doesn't remove the demand it just makes the supply unreliable and criminal. I'm in the UK and at present drug users are largely ignored by the law. Police can prosecute you but rarely do - it's just not seen as worth doing and the focus is on deale… | /r/MensRights | 26/02/21 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Can you ever, completely prove consentNo you can never really completely prove consent. Equally you can never really prove a lack of consent (other than being underage and therefore legally unable to provide it.) The fact is there are rarely witnesses to sexual activity and if it's two people in a room it is inevitably two peoples words against each other. Which is why' while unfortunate' it is just reality that there will be people who get away with sexual abuse and people who are wrongly convicted. I think most people recognise th… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/21 08:31 PM |
| 17 | Why is that females can get sex so easily and men have to work for it.Fucking hell. Are you saying that women should 'give you sex' as a selfless act to make you happy above their own wishes? Yes woman do have an easier time dating ' no nobody owes you sex. | /r/MensRights | 21/02/21 04:21 PM |
| 10 | How do men fare in Europe?UK here. We follow behind the US socially on most issues to be honest. Media here is nearly as bad as US media seems to be. I rarely look at the BBC now because I got sick of the national media company being so overtly misandric. They have a womans month each year but no need for men because every day is mans day right? Throughout the year you get articles such as why men should pay for first dates (if I recall one of the justifications was that woman spend more time and money getting ready' of … | /r/MensRights | 20/02/21 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Imagine getting conscripted and having to look at this... If this doesn't convince you that we're living in a dystopian nightmare, then I don't know what will.Is your point that being conscripted gives you a right to catcall as you are suffering a greater injustice? If not then what is it? Yes male conscription is an issue. Wolf whistling is a separate issue. A poster telling a solider (it doesn't specify conscripted or not you have added that in) not to wolf whistle and advocating respect is fine. The poster doesn't have anything to do with conscription. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/21 06:42 PM |
| 2 | Legal issues > systemic onesI agree that legal issues are both more important and easier to identify & rectify than systemic ones. I disagree that systemic issues either don't matter or can't change. A lot of systemic issues can and are changing as a result of technology' medical advances and broader changes in society like changing types of work. Yes some inherent differences will always exist but these differences don't dictate social roles as much as they used to. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/21 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Women are as of February 24th allowed to wear makeup, ponytails, earrings, lipstick, and colored nail polish in uniform in U.S. army.No man listening with an open mind doesn't mean I will agree. I will accept the point that men are more affected by an attractive women than vice versa. I think you are overstating it calling it severely disabling and the level to which it effects behaviour (a beautiful woman is not going to make me suddenly eat a food I hate etc.) But technically you can say it makes men less able so fine. The interesting point is when you say So exhausting that I cease to care about the rights of whatever is f… | /r/MensRights | 06/02/21 09:05 PM |
| 2 | Women are as of February 24th allowed to wear makeup, ponytails, earrings, lipstick, and colored nail polish in uniform in U.S. army.I shouldn't feed a troll but what the fuck do you get out of making shitty comments? How can you think wearing make up means women being raped doesnt matter and describe being aroused as psychological and emotional rape? Do attractive men walk around emotionally raping people who find then attractive? Does it not matter if those men get raped? | /r/MensRights | 06/02/21 07:28 PM |
| 1 | The prison system when comparing white men, to black womenHere is a link to a full report in 2017 on UK deaths in custody (most recent I could find.) Feel free to read thoroughly but its 80 pages so a TL:DR focused on the point you raise would be "Natural causes have been the most common known cause of deaths in police custody in England and Wales between 2004/05 and 2014/15, accounting for 51 per cent of deaths." (So we have to bear in mind that the figures are not representative of police brutality. The interesting factor will be the discrepancy betw… | /r/MensRights | 01/02/21 10:34 PM |
| 3 | Male privilege vs Female privilegeThere are situations in life where it is on average beneficial to be male and situations where it is beneficial to be female. Anyone who believes this only applies to one gender is either deliberately obtuse or just stupid. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/21 04:38 PM |
| 2 | How many shelters are there for women compared to men?I know that the method for recording victims is a bit flawed but it's the best source I know of. What better source would you suggest? | /r/MensRights | 01/02/21 09:03 AM |
| 1 | Is the show "Mr. Bean" bad for Men's Rights because of how it depicts the male persona?Carry on probably had a slightly older audience but was still a 'family show'. Just that a lot of British TV back then was quite lewd but it was all harmless 'seaside postcard humour' if you know what I mean by that? Although Mr Bean was a show kids could watch it still had an adult audience. I dont know about global success but that doesn't really matter as far as the intentions of the creators go - something doesnt become more offensive based on the size of its audience. Basically yes some pas… | /r/MensRights | 01/02/21 01:21 AM |
| 1 | Survey for MRAsOn your are women oppressed question I had to say men and women are equally oppressed as imo the best response. What I would want to say is neither are oppressed but both are disproportionately affected by different issues on account of their gender. The word oppressed implies an oppressor and is therefore problematic (to my mind!) Edit: maybe add 'neither are oppressed' as an option? | /r/MensRights | 01/02/21 01:12 AM |
| 1 | Is the show "Mr. Bean" bad for Men's Rights because of how it depicts the male persona?Not at all. He's just a goofy character. There are plenty of examples of socially awkward characters male and female where that is played on for comedy. With the point about the pool episode/ nudity - have you seen any carry on films?! Barbara Windsor in particular is often in varying state of undress for comedic purposes. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/21 12:44 AM |
| 25 | If feminists can use animals as proof of sexism why can't we?Because fighting stupidity with stupidity just makes everyone sound like an idiot. | /r/MensRights | 31/01/21 07:17 PM |
| 16 | How many shelters are there for women compared to men?This took 5 seconds to find. "A third of domestic violence victims are male yet only 0.8 per cent of refuge beds are reserved for them, " | /r/MensRights | 31/01/21 07:15 PM |
| 1 | How can women help to address men's issues while still addressing their own?Yeh agree with all of that. Particularly that there is nothing wrong with having gendered DV shelters - as you say there are unique challenges either gender face which are best dealt with in different ways. There is no ideal solution with paternity tests - if the woman refuses a test because she fears their partner will be a risk to their life if it isn't his then surely her refusal will be seen as a sign of guilt by someone who is likely to be abusive? Unless in this case she tells the hospital… | /r/MensRights | 30/01/21 08:30 PM |
| 6 | How can women help to address men's issues while still addressing their own?I think your DV example is a good example of the question what is a charity/ movements aim? If the aim is to reduce a gender disparity then it makes sense to focus only on the gender most affected. But I don't see why that would be an aim? It makes more sense to me to focus on reducing DV than levelling out DV. Would the charity be happy if DV went up overall but became 50/50? I assume not! So the goal shouldn't be to equalise the gender disparity between victims but to reduce the total number o… | /r/MensRights | 30/01/21 07:58 PM |
| 2 | Men and abortionNo sorry if unclear I meant the woman paying for the abortion (obviously it varies who pays...) . The cost is a disincentive and adding further cost increases the disincentive. I don't see why the government would pay compensation? What argument is there for this? I don't think we do agree on power I was not saying that was a big factor in decision making - why do you think it is? Of course there are a multitude of factors in a decision to abort. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/21 09:43 PM |
| 1 | Men and abortionAm also pro choice. Their seems to be an argument that men should not have the ultimate say because men is already dominant in everything I don't think this is the main argument people use - not one I have heard! It's more that it is the woman who has to carry the pregnancy and has all the physical consequences so if the couple disagree it makes sense that she has the final say. So this is not about how woman feel about abortion this is more so about power Completely disagree as above. Should me… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/21 01:08 PM |
| 37 | Hello! I'm a girl, attempting to write men in an accurate way, can anyone help?Approach it exactly the same as writing a woman. Don't write a man or a woman - write a character. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/21 12:55 PM |
| 11 | Marshall Plan for Moms: celebrities join with "Girls Who Code" to call on President Biden to pay moms for "unpaid labor"Going from it's sexist to see women as the primary child raisers to let's pay only women for raising children. Which will create financial pressure to make dads work and mums stay at home. Then they can complain that there aren't enough women in the workplace and push more quotas to benefit the women who do work over men. So women are advantaged whether at work or being a stay at home parent. Yay equality! | /r/MensRights | 29/01/21 10:25 AM |
| 1 | Do you think it’s possible that women are actually the perverts of society?No I dont think either men or women are 'the perverts of society.' Why finger point? Sex drive and preferences varies from individual to individual. A mans value is not solely what he can provide for a woman. Women have not been 'forcing men to have sex all the time' The idea of men being less selective than women makes evolutionary sense - women can only be pregnant one partner at a time men can make multiple women pregnant in the same period. The girl you spoke to has probably been told that '… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/21 10:19 PM |
| 12 | This is beyond repulsive. India has one of the highest sexual assault rates in the world and this will only continue that trendFucked up ruling. It won't increase recorded sexual assault rates as it is narrowing the definition of sexual assault. But it will make it easier to get away with assault which is an issue and arguably encourages it. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/21 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Not a single comment calling the roommate sexist? Any bets what would happen replacing "men" with "black people"?Would you say the same if it were a white person responding this way any time they see a black person, or would you call that racism? Be honest. Honestly It depends on what is triggering the response. If the girl was sexually abused by a man it's a more understandable response to have a fear of men than fearing whatever race the man was. If it wasnt sexual abuse then it's less justifiable. But response to trauma is often illogical. I agree with the premise that you could label it sexist or racis… | /r/MensRights | 26/01/21 09:06 PM |
| 0 | Not a single comment calling the roommate sexist? Any bets what would happen replacing "men" with "black people"?Oh come on. The girl seems to have some mental issues going on. No one knows what problems she has or what traumas she may have suffered to put her in this condition. Not everything is sexism or 'a result of feminism bad.' | /r/MensRights | 26/01/21 08:17 PM |
| 6 | UK: Labour shadow Foreign Secretary praises calls for British Army to be replaced with a 'gender-balanced human security force' in new woke row.What these left wing woke politicians dont realise is that pushing this woke nonsense is pushing away centrists and moderates- the kind of swing voters that decide elections. Yeh you gain some voters but you lose a lot more. Biden won because his opponent was Trump not because of his woke bullshit. | /r/MensRights | 24/01/21 11:44 AM |
| 11 | Feminism is destroying our little boys :'(.As you haven't had a response... As others have said the figures on rape are inevitably skewed by how rape is defined. Rape is a specific form of sexual assault which entails forced penetration. Given on a basic level men have sex by penetrating and women have sex by being penetrated inevitably more women will be forcibly penetrated than men. That's just obvious. Put it this way- if a woman held a knife to a mans throat and forced him to have sex with her it would be considered sexual assault no… | /r/MensRights | 23/01/21 10:51 AM |
| 2 | A rant about #notallmenHey bit late to respond but some interesting points to respond to. When you say these points are misconceptions about feminism that is half the problem- if they are misconceptions why doesn't feminism try to correct them? Any political movement should look to address negative perceptions that harm its message not just insult people who disagree with them because of these misconceptions. I know there are diverse beliefs within feminism and you shouldn't take the views of extremists as representat… | /r/MensRights | 21/01/21 10:27 AM |
| 2 | Do men respect male feminists?I respect most people regardless of their political beliefs. A man or woman saying they are feminist is fine. If they want to have a reasonable discussion then great and I will explain why/ where I disagree. If they don't want to talk about it then fine move on. Not a big issue. If someone generally submits to anything a group of people says without question I will lose a bit of respect but up to them how they live their life. | /r/MensRights | 20/01/21 07:53 PM |
| 0 | How do I make sure I don't falsely accuse him?Fair enough thanks for clarifying. I really don't know what to say other than if it is playing on your mind then talk to someone about it. But if you can then move on because sadly the chances of you find out the truth look slim. Him kissing you when he though you were asleep is assault but as to anything else happening it's unlikely he would admit it whether true or not. There must be a sexual assault sub or something similar if you are more comfortable online than going to counsellors etc. | /r/MensRights | 20/01/21 08:31 AM |
| 4 | How do I make sure I don't falsely accuse him?This is why sexual assault accusations are so difficult. I completely respect you wanting to know what happened. But also not wanting to fuck someone's life up when you aren't sure what happened yourself. If there are no witnesses then I dont see what you can really do in terms of a)finding out the truth and b) securing a conviction if there was assault involved. If someone did know who it was who came into your room that still wouldn't mean anything untoward happened when he was in there. You m… | /r/MensRights | 20/01/21 07:59 AM |
| 4 | What is considered abuse in the state of CO. What do you think?You can understand the intent of covering various 'smaller' or less obvious forms of abuse. But going by this list every single couple in the world abuses each other. It's impossible not to when you can't demand sex but also can't refuse it or withhold it. Of course in some circumstances those actions could be manipulative or abusive but this list has a lot of contradictions on it. | /r/MensRights | 19/01/21 06:24 PM |
| 3 | The whole turning traditionally male things into feminine things has gotten so badI dont care much about stuff like that. There are an obscene amount of versions of monopoly if they want a Ms version that's fine. Certainly wouldn't make me boycott a shop! If there is a market for it then sell it. As to the films- yeh it's daft. Mainly because most women want some male characters just like most men want some female ones. The line between a 'healthy mix' and 'woke pandering' will be different for everyone. When they start changing the identities of existing characters it's anno… | /r/MensRights | 19/01/21 04:10 AM |
| 2 | I AM NOT A FAGGOT JUST BECAUSE I KISSED MY FRIENDDont use the word faggot. You may just be repeating the slurs directed at you but echoing them isn't great. Don't get hung up on it. You sound young. If you react to it you give them reason to continue to insult you. If you just laugh it off and go yeh I'm not gay but whatever they will lose interest. | /r/MensRights | 18/01/21 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Toxic MasculinityOk I appreciate the distinction to some level. If I understand you In relation to the original post it's a case of this behaviour is an example of some toxic aspects of masculinity but not a condemnation of men themselves. That is not how the tone of the post came across it felt more like a scolding see aren't men awful! I would still reiterate my inital question which is why focus on them being men and ignore the women who protested? Why take some people being assholes and go ah this is an exam… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 05:57 AM |
| 2 | Toxic MasculinityThis was where I got the original number from, Fair enough. i don't consider that "remarkably diverse" which was what I originally stated and if you disagree that's fine. The word remarkably is a hard adjective to put a number on! The initial point I tried to make is that it's a bit unfair of you to paint Trump supporters protesting as being an example of toxic masculinity. You then shifted it from gender to race. My point still stands that Trump does (or did) have supporters from various demogr… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 05:53 AM |
| 1 | Toxic MasculinityTM - categorizing the actions of a group based upon their identity and assumed experience (in this case being male.) IP - categorizing the actions of a group based upon their identity and assumed experience. Unless I am wrong in my understanding/ definitions then how are they not related? | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 05:34 AM |
| -4 | Toxic MasculinityLack of respect for the election process? Ignorance/arrogance? Take your pick. I'm sure they all had diverse motives for their actions. But the definitive factor in their actions was not the presence of a y chromosome. I dont know why men behaving antisocially is down to them being men when if you suggested women/whatever race/whatever sexuality behaving antisocially is down to whatever category you have chosen to differentiate them by that would be unacceptable. It's the epitome of the nonsense… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 05:27 AM |
| 3 | Toxic MasculinitySigh... Can you provide a citation for your claim that less than 1/5th of trump supporters are non white? I did not assert that Trump won 43% of non white votes. I merely observed that if he only won 57% of white votes and 50% of male votes it is unlikely that his voter base is as heavily white male only as you imply. It would be impossible for someone to have a close election result without significant support from other demographics when his advantage in those two areas is so slim. I'm not pro… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 04:38 AM |
| 3 | What would you consider are the main similarities and differences between Feminists and Male rights movements?As others have said the core similarity is that both argue for gender equality. The core difference lies in their assessment of the cause of gender inequality. For MRA it's a combination of various social and biological factors which often worked both ways but in a modern western context have been skewed by feminism to become increasingly anti men. For feminism it's the patriachy and a story of men historically and currently oppressing women. So the proposed solution is different - for feminism … | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 04:27 AM |
| 4 | Toxic MasculinityLiterally the first result on Google "Stewart noticed a slight widening of the gender gap – with women voting 56-43 for Biden, while the two candidates were almost tied among men." Hardly a landslide difference. "nationally Trump was estimated to have won about 57% of white votes – with huge state-to-state variations linked to factors such as education and age" While there is a clear difference it's false to portray someone winning 57% of white votes and approx 50% of male votes as being as reli… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 03:55 AM |
| 5 | Toxic MasculinitySo you do believe that no feminist is a trump supporter. Or if they are they are a 'bad' feminist. Surely there are some who condemn his actions but still choose to vote Republican? Maybe they have a wider political viewpoint than just feminism. It's this kind of narrow minded 'if you step out of line by having any different opinions you are wrong' partisan nonsense which will with any luck spell the end of feminism. What do you mean by 'remarkably diverse'? Both the Republicans and Democrats se… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 03:07 AM |
| 5 | Toxic MasculinityNot every woman is a feminist, that's correct. Sorry what? Are you saying the women who support Trump are by default not feminist? I am sure there are many feminist Trump supporters who disagree with a lot of what he says/ does but still overall prefer him to the alternative. Given that both feminism and Republicanism are broad diverse groups there is inevitably going to be some crossover. I in no way support the storming of the Capitol. I'm not a Trump supporter and not American. However to cat… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 02:24 AM |
| 7 | Toxic MasculinityYup because no women were involved in the protest just nasty men being all toxic with their manliness. I suppose you think the women involved were either oppressed victims of their husbands or somehow expressing their internalised misogyny or some other bullshit reason why it's mens fault not theirs. So much for female empowerment - when they do bad its play the victim time! When men do bad its obviously because they are men. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 02:02 AM |
| 4 | Question: what is this subs opinions on the lgbtq+ communityI don't think many people here care about your sexuality gender etc. Of course you will have different experiences to other people with different sexuality gender etc. But that's important and worth adding to the conversation. I personally think trans people have a huge amount of insight on gender disparity by virtue of having experienced both sides to some extent. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/21 01:51 AM |
| 9 | Gee, thanks for the recommendation, RedditIsn't ask feminists similar to mens rights? Both are subs that discuss gender issues. It's like being pissed that I spend time on reddevils and having a liverpool sub recommended. Both are subs which debate football. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/21 09:33 PM |
| 5 | Next time a feminist claims "we see men as predators because of patriarchy, not feminism" send them this.Well those people can go fuck themselves. You know what I am saying- generally speaking few people hold a jew/christian/muslim etc. Responsible for the actions of other people who happen to have the same religion. Those that do are mostly condemned for such views. Same with race. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/21 04:12 AM |
| 80 | Next time a feminist claims "we see men as predators because of patriarchy, not feminism" send them this.It's the 'take responsibility for your gender' part I just cant understand. We don't tell women to 'take responsibility for your gender' because women commit more child abuse. The idea of telling anyone to take responsibility for your race/religion/etc. Is not acceptable. Why is it only acceptable to tell men to take responsibility for other mens crimes but not any other group of people? | /r/MensRights | 15/01/21 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Feminism as per usual blames men for not seeking healthcare (women who also dont seek healthcare of course thats just sexism against women), yet reality is men have very few entry points into healthcare. No pregnancy, birthcontrol, no screening programmes etc no mens health policies in 98% countrieswe shouldn't put effort into detection/treatment of a disease when you can prevent it in the first place. Why not both? Are you saying we shouldn't try and detect heart issues in men or women because they should just have a better diet? Surely we can push education on healthy lifestyle while also trying to save lives by investing in research for negative consequences. Why do you think men are more likely to smoke' drink etc.? Please don't say toxic masculinity! | /r/MensRights | 15/01/21 04:48 PM |
| 7 | I hate how people are able to laugh at and make jokes about male genital mutilation or support any form of male genital mutilation and emasculation, and no one makes a big deal about it!I get your concern. There is a big difference between castration and circumcision. Anyone genuinely advocating castration is a headcase not worth paying attention to. Anyone advocating circumcision is likely socially conditioned to view it as acceptable/ preferable and worth debating with. I have had what I consider close female friends suggest I should get circumcised because it 'looks better' or 'women just prefer it. When I point put I wouldn't tell them to chop off a chunk of their genitals … | /r/MensRights | 15/01/21 03:42 AM |
| 12 | Feminism as per usual blames men for not seeking healthcare (women who also dont seek healthcare of course thats just sexism against women), yet reality is men have very few entry points into healthcare. No pregnancy, birthcontrol, no screening programmes etc no mens health policies in 98% countriesWhat is your point here? That we shouldn't screen for cancer caused by preventable causes? That it's mens fault for getting cancer through preventable causes? Nobody would suggest we shouldn't try to minimise cancer in women by checking for it. Nobody would say ah well it's their fault for leading an unhealthy lifestyle. Why would you apply such logic to men? | /r/MensRights | 15/01/21 03:32 AM |
| 39 | Liberal MRAsPersonally am a centrist perhaps a little right leaning but the same logic applies. Raised being fed feminist bullshit. Experience reality. Question the bullshit. | /r/MensRights | 13/01/21 12:49 AM |
| 9 | OH MAN They cheat, walk out on you or just want sex – why we hate menThe single mother aspect is just confusing. If I was a 30 year old single father I would recognise that for plenty of women that would be a deal breaker. It's not unreasonable for someone to have reservations about a relationship and lifestyle that will be completely different because there is a child involved. Why a 30 year old single mother can't accept the same logic is beyond me. Yes it must be upsetting that you met a guy you liked and you having a child meant things didnt work out. But don… | /r/MensRights | 13/01/21 12:44 AM |
| 25 | My experience with the difficulties of feminist men's communitiesPersonally I don't think 'feminist mens communities' can properly exist or function in a way that serves men by default of being feminist. As you have found out highlighting any areas where feminism is anti male will be censored. It's a horrible catch 22 where you are told feminism is for gender equality but if you dare to highlight male inequality or comment on how some ( some not all) feminist policies are detrimental to men you will be shot down. When the mods of a menslib sub tell you that f… | /r/MensRights | 12/01/21 04:33 AM |
| 1 | Reproductive rightsNo, you're moving the goalpost by turning it into a "fathers rights" issue when it was an abortion issue. I dont know how to respond to such wilful ignorance... the initial comment I responded to postulated that it was ok for abortion if both parties agree but that the man should be able to prevent abortion if he does not agree (as can mothers at present.) The original post was about male reproductive rights. This was clearly a conversation about male reproductive rights and while abortion is re… | /r/MensRights | 12/01/21 01:49 AM |
| 4 | Why do people automaticaly identify the topic of "gender equality" exclusively with feminism?From the population that isnt criminal women are more often the victim. A valid point if true. Any source for that? Murder and rape are both rare crimes and even rarer that it's done by a stranger for no reason. The harassment point is fair but catcalling is unlikely to escalate to assault. If you were a criminal would you rather rob a man or a women? Of course a woman because most woman are weaker than man. I would rather rob a man actually. If I'm caught the consequences will be less severe an… | /r/MensRights | 11/01/21 05:26 PM |
| 7 | Why do people automaticaly identify the topic of "gender equality" exclusively with feminism?Men are more likely to be a victim of crime than women. They are more likely to be a victim of every single type of crime except sexual assault. A large % of sexual assault occurs in the home/ from someone the victim knows. Simply put men are statistically more in danger than women when alone outside at night. So why are women more afraid? Is it men underestimating the risks they face? Women over estimating? Bit of both? I would suggest a lot of the reason women feel less safe than men is becaus… | /r/MensRights | 11/01/21 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Reproductive rightsNope, i think its better to give both an equal choice. This is impossible when they disagree. If one wants an abortion and the other doesn't then they can't compromise! One of them gets their way and the other doesn't there is no equal choice available. There really isn't a difference, both are sexual encounters that weren't agreed upon. No. Removing a condom is a sexual encounter that wasnt agreed to. The condom failing and resulting in pregnancy is the result of a consensual sexual encounter n… | /r/MensRights | 11/01/21 04:10 PM |
| 2 | Reproductive rightsBut the comment I was responding to was that it's fine to have an abortion if both parents agree but either one can overrule the other and insist on keeping the child. So it's not about abortion being ethical or not. It's about the man being able to force the woman to not abort just because she can currently refuse to have one. | /r/MensRights | 11/01/21 03:06 PM |
| 2 | Reproductive rightsAs i've said its not my favorite option by a country mile, but it isn't nearly as bad as forcing someone into paying for 18 years. So you think it's better to remove her choice than remove his choice. The financial liability of 18 years is covered by the paper abortion idea. That he doesn't have a choice in the child being born is unfortunate but as I have said before only one of them can have the casting vote if there is disagreement and I believe the woman has a greater vote. Taking off a cond… | /r/MensRights | 10/01/21 11:16 PM |
| 2 | Reproductive rightsIts not taking away a womans bodily autonomy to a point where she doesn't have a choice, Forcing her to carry a pregnancy if the man wants her to is taking away her choice though? Ultimately if the two disagree one of them will 'not have a choice' in being overruled by the other. Of the two I think the woman has the stronger case seeing as she is the one who is pregnant. don't agree with this biological perspective when a man says he doesn't want anything to do with the baby. Which is why I supp… | /r/MensRights | 10/01/21 07:13 PM |
| 2 | Reproductive rightsI agree that post sex men dont really have any rights and can see why you think those two options offer more parity. But I don't think being able to either force abortion or force pregnancy is the answer. It's taking away the womans bodily autonomy in order to give the man autonomy over his sperm.. Frankly once the man has had sex from a biological perspective his input is done. In an ideal world the parents will agree to abort or continue. When there is a disagreement the woman should imo have … | /r/MensRights | 10/01/21 05:51 PM |
| 3 | Reproductive rightsFair enough. Yeh I agree that the emotional strain of having your partner abort a child you wanted must be very tough. It really is one of those no win situations. I agree the current set up is a bit too in favour of the mother but personally draw the line at forcing them to continue pregnancy when they dont want to even if that would make things more balanced. Thanks for you other comment. I think disagreement and discussion is healthy - much better than this just being an echo chamber. | /r/MensRights | 10/01/21 04:48 PM |
| 2 | Reproductive rightsI understand the inequality. I can kind of understand - either party can force an abortion is 'fair'. I dont know what would stop the mother just claiming it was someone else's child to avoid being forced into an abortion though. There is a difference between my sperm being used after the event and my uterus being used for 9 months. I just think there are circumstances where equality is unrealistic and abortion rights is one of them. The woman is the one who is pregnant not the man so ultimately… | /r/MensRights | 10/01/21 03:18 PM |
| 3 | Reproductive rightsYes men are and should be allowed to be single parents. You talking about the financial side ignores the physical and emotional impact of being pregnant and giving birth. That is an impact on the mother and her choice whether to suffer it. | /r/MensRights | 10/01/21 03:11 PM |
| 3 | Reproductive rightsAs I have said elsewhere this is where it becomes a pro life question not a fathers rights question. The comment I was responding to was happy for abortion if both parents agreed but not if one of the two wanted to keep it so it's moving the goalposts a bit to then say abortion is wrong. I dont consider early stage abortion murder much like I dont consider the morning after pill murder. There is obviously a line to be drawn in terms of fetal development and in my limited knowledge the current ti… | /r/MensRights | 10/01/21 03:10 PM |
| 6 | Reproductive rightsSo you think we should be legally entitled to force someone to go through with a pregnancy they don't want? Why?! | /r/MensRights | 09/01/21 11:45 PM |
| 2 | Reproductive rightsYeh this is drifting into pro choice / pro life which is obviously connected but a different conversation I don't want to get into so will wish you well and leave it there. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/21 11:30 PM |
| 4 | Reproductive rightsOk if you think its preferable to have a child you don't want rather than an abortion that's your choice. Hope you never have to make it. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/21 11:25 PM |
| 4 | Reproductive rightsSo if you had a one night stand' used contraception but for whatever reason it fails and you get pregnant' you think the man should be able to force you to carry the child to term or take you to court and fine you if you have an abortion? | /r/MensRights | 09/01/21 11:20 PM |
| 8 | Reproductive rightsI suggest that the mother has the final say on pregnancy being as she is the one who is pregnant. The unfortunate reality of that is it means men dont get a say. That sucks but is preferable to forcing women into pregnancy or fining them for aborting. I dont believe men should always suffer. I am a man. I do believe that in this scenario the man has less choice than the woman and that's the morally best option available. Paper abortions would bring some equality to the financial side of things b… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/21 11:12 PM |
| 2 | Reproductive rightsWhat would that achieve? The fee (let's be honest it's a fine) is not going to make up for missing out on parenthood. It cant be a large fee or women will be under financial pressure to have the child. If it's a small token fee what is the point? | /r/MensRights | 09/01/21 11:02 PM |
| 2 | Reproductive rightsYou casually say just have the child like pregnancy is just a trivial experience. It's not with the hormones and body changes and having to go through labour never mind the emotional toll of doing all that for something you didn't want because the man is forcing you to! You think the abortion decision should be in the hands of the mother in the case of rape or medical risk' but if the result of consensual sex the man can force her to go through with a pregnancy? I can't see why you think this. I… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/21 10:49 PM |
| 11 | Reproductive rightsI dont want to make this a pro choice/ life debate. But if you think that abortion is ok if the man and woman both agree that's not your premise. Correct me if I'm wrong but your premise seems to be that a man can refuse to allow the woman to have an abortion. I cant support that idea at all. Yes it is unfair that the woman has the final say and the mans opinion is irrelevant. Paper abortions for men make some sense as a way of rectifying this. Forcing women to have children they dont want to is… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/21 10:34 PM |
| 10 | Reproductive rightsWith the idea of the fathers consent being required for an abortion... what happens if the woman wants an abortion and the man says no? Can't force her to go through with a pregnancy she doesn't want. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/21 10:23 PM |
| 5 | Gf cheated after 2 yearsYeh I didn't actually want you to PM me I was highlighting the in appropriateness of your comment. If you can't see that you are either brain dead or a bot. Either way piss off. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/21 02:33 AM |
| 4 | Gf cheated after 2 yearsHi love I can see you are upset and would love to monetise your emotions. Hit me up yeh x | /r/MensRights | 09/01/21 02:25 AM |
| 3 | Gf cheated after 2 yearsThat's up to you man. I know plenty of couples where one or both have cheated and they have got over it and moved on. And plenty of couples where it was the end of the relationship. Up to you and her to work it out or part ways. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/21 02:24 AM |
| 3 | Feminism in islam dominated countriesI'm always reticent to comment on other societies/ cultures that I do not fully understand. Even more so when you dont specify the country (understand why.) My core approach is always that there are areas in life where men are disadvantaged and areas where women are. This obviously varies in different cultures. I do think there is a place for feminism in countries where women are oppressed more than men. However I still caution that it's not necessarily the best approach- both in what change it … | /r/MensRights | 08/01/21 05:06 PM |
| 8 | Disgusting women will always find an unrealistic excuse to not shave their private parts and blame it on men.Ok I mean at least you are consistent. Seems weird to me and is definitely a preference not a hygiene issue but you are allowed your preferences. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/21 06:04 PM |
| 5 | Disgusting women will always find an unrealistic excuse to not shave their private parts and blame it on men.Ok. If you hadn't trimmed your pubes for a week would you expect her to refuse to have sex with you? | /r/MensRights | 06/01/21 05:59 PM |
| 6 | Disgusting women will always find an unrealistic excuse to not shave their private parts and blame it on men.So you are telling me if your girlfriend hadn't shaved for a week you would refuse to go near her? | /r/MensRights | 06/01/21 05:57 PM |
| 4 | I want to discuss a bitI dont think feminism is bad in the sense of identifying harmful gender roles /stereotypes. I do think feminism has it wrong in blaming these roles/stereotypes on 'patriachy' and implicitly men then proposing dismantling 'patriarchy' as a solution. I do think feminism has a very biased approach to gender disparity which is focused solely on womens issues. Women do face problems on account of their gender' so do men. Women do have advantages on account of their gender' so do men. Often these pros… | /r/MensRights | 06/01/21 05:54 PM |
| 6 | Disgusting women will always find an unrealistic excuse to not shave their private parts and blame it on men.What bullshit. There is nothing disgusting about a woman not shaving her pubic hair. It's not unhygienic as you imply in the comments. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/21 05:35 PM |
| 3 | I can’t help but wonder if these kind of people would think the same way if a popular female character was changed into a man.Honestly as a big Dr Who fan it didn't bother me. The point of the Dr is that they constantly become a new person. It's not like James Bond where the actors all theoretically portray the same person - each Dr is meant to be a physically new person. There are often comments on regeneration about 'wow big chin this time' etc. They did it well by introducing the concept of time lords (the Dr species) switching genders by having others do it before the title character so it wasnt a shock and fit the… | /r/MensRights | 06/01/21 05:25 PM |
| 2 | How do I support men’s rights without sounding like an MRAHow you words/ actions are interpreted will always depend on your audience. Some people will take your opinion at face value. Some will instantly go ew misogynist. In general just say what you want to say and if/when someone challenges you ask why they are labelling you for having an opinion rather than responding to the point you made. They can discuss the validity of what you are saying without just tarring it as 'MRA talk' the same way I can discuss something with a feminist without tying it … | /r/MensRights | 04/01/21 07:08 PM |
| 2 | QUESTION:were the women who didn't want other women to join the military in majority? I have no idea. I'm sure some women wanted to join the military and were stopped by men' some stopped by women and some didn't want to join. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/21 11:42 AM |
| 12 | QUESTION:It's an example of socio-historical gender roles not patriarchy. These are different things. Main difference is one existed and the other is invented. As to the 'men wouldn't allow women to fight'... what about the white feather campaign and women forcing men to fight? It went both ways like everything. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 09:10 PM |
| 2 | As MRAs, are you guys Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?Yeh exactly. It already happens. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 03:53 PM |
| 1 | As MRAs, are you guys Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?I'm pro choice. I'm overall pro paper abortion but there are negatives to it. Negatives- couples may exploit the state by getting a paper abortion to claim more benefits. - Will cost the taxpayer as the child will still need supporting. Positives - gives men some choice ref child support / parenthood. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 01:35 PM |
| 1 | As MRAs, are you guys Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?Pro choice. I don't see the benefit of forcing someone to have an unwanted child. Paper abortions for men are an interesting one... overall I'm for it but there are issues. Basically the problem is once a child is born the theory of the law is the best interests of the child. The practice is often punitive to fathers. Given how much the state spends on children anyway I dont mind having that money come out of the taxpayers pocket instead of a man who at an early enough stage declared he was unwi… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/21 01:08 PM |
| 1 | How severe is the crime of rape?As a general point it should be seen as a very severe crime - it's a huge breach of bodily autonomy. The comments there debating the level of trauma... there are obviously various forms of rape and various types of victims. I know a woman who was gang raped by strangers at knife point and another woman who woke up with her flat mate inside her who told her nobody will believe you just let it happen. It's an impossible debate which is 'worse' or more traumatic- in one case physical violence in a … | /r/MensRights | 02/01/21 11:24 AM |
| 2 | Is this sub about hating women or just the unfair advantages extreme feminism has introduced into modern society?No this sub is not about hating women. The idea that supporting men is somehow about hating women is as harmful as me saying feminists are just man haters. Its just different perspectives. It’s pretty fair to say that for most of history, patriarchal values have placed women as second rate within most societies. It's not fair to present a biased interpretation of history as fact. Society did and to a lesser extent still does have gender roles that in some instances benefit men and some instances… | /r/MensRights | 31/12/20 09:15 PM |
| 40 | "The Patriarchy of Alcoholics Anonymous" -- Feminist attacks AA because women who drink "don’t need to give up our power." Yep.It's a classic case of assumption here. Men are entitled therefore AA works for them as it attacks their entitled male ego. Mens egos need to be challenged not nurtured. Women are victims therefore AA doesn't work as they drink because of societies flaws not their own. Womens egos need nurturing not challenging. I'm an alcoholic and no fan of AA. Agree with a lot of the authors points on the program but she assumes it is primarily her experience as a woman that is relevant. It's not a gendered i… | /r/MensRights | 31/12/20 04:34 PM |
| 1 | Equality? Ok. Stricter laws and consequences for women then.I agree that both UK and US criminal law is structured such as to avoid or be lenient in sentencing women. I dont think you can assume the motivation of abandonment laws are to protect women not children. Yes the current set up fails fathers and children on many levels but to correlate an overall bias with the specific scenario of child abandonment and then assume that bias applies to that specific scenario is not really a fair approach. You do realize that this only applies to women don't you? … | /r/MensRights | 31/12/20 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Equality? Ok. Stricter laws and consequences for women then.they tell men that they chose to risk parenthood when they choose to have sex. Well I have some shocking news for you, it kinda works the same way for women. Of course it does. Yes it is legitimate to point out the inequality in the level of choice women have vs men post sex. I dont think restricting the choices of women is a satisfactory solution and just comes across as a retaliationary if I dont get a say neither do you. You are completely ignoring the point that removing options inevitably r… | /r/MensRights | 30/12/20 10:27 PM |
| 2 | Equality? Ok. Stricter laws and consequences for women then.Okay fair comment. I'm not wildly pro abortion but do believe it should be available as a last resort. Obviously as you say better education and availability of effective contraceptives is preferable. The paper abortion/ male absolution of responsibility is a tricky subject. Overall I agree with the concept purely on the basis that the state subsidises in the absence of a father so it's not an outrageous burden to subsidise the choice of a father to be absent. It is ripe for exploitation as most… | /r/MensRights | 30/12/20 10:19 PM |
| 2 | Equality? Ok. Stricter laws and consequences for women then.But they lack responsibility for that decision. That's a problem. And the solution is punitive laws? I don't see how that forces any women to do anything illegal, no. If she she does so it's because she chooses to do so. You are ignoring my point that limiting choice in itself compels choice. So you insist that women are forced still. Yes. If you make something illegal you are either forcing someone to not do it or forcing them to seek an illegal alternative. It was your invention, I just copy p… | /r/MensRights | 30/12/20 06:05 PM |
| 2 | Equality? Ok. Stricter laws and consequences for women then.It's the choice men have always faced (unwanted parenthood), so how can it be a problem? And this is where the whole argument stems from. It's not fair that men don't have a say in abortion yet are still liable for the child. I agree. The solution is not to take away womens choice on abortion and/or make them face punitive action for doing so. Abortion is genuinely something I see as a case of yes women have more power but that's ok with me. They have to carry the child for 9 months they have th… | /r/MensRights | 30/12/20 04:09 PM |
| 2 | Equality? Ok. Stricter laws and consequences for women then.By removing the option of safe legal abortion you present the alternatives of a)keep a child you dont want which just is not a a good thing to force anyone to do. b)seek illegal solutions. In that sense many women will feel forced into option b. Yes it's always a choice but that choice is being forced upon them by outlawing abortion in the manner OP suggests - with abortion legal they have a different choice. I don't see how that is a feminist narrative or what relevance women committing other c… | /r/MensRights | 30/12/20 03:28 PM |
| 6 | Equality? Ok. Stricter laws and consequences for women then.Jail time or lost privileges for women who abort children Hell no. If a woman wants an abortion I would much rather she had one safely than be forced into illegal routes because of punitive laws. Or forced into having a child. Horrible horrible idea. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/20 08:06 AM |
| 2 | Can we start using the term fake feminist for people who are out to seek anti-equality against men?Or perhaps we recognise there is diversity in beliefs between groups but the effects of that group are still very real. Can Catholics/ Protestants say the other is not a 'true christian' just because they hold a different interpretation? There is diversity within the catholic church that doesnt mean the institution as a whole can dodge its crimes on the 'not a true catholic' argument. I have no doubts there are many feminists who genuinely believe they are just campaigning for equality. Whether … | /r/MensRights | 29/12/20 09:17 AM |
| 38 | ‘Highly damaging’: Girl Scouts accuse Boy Scouts of poaching their membership in latest filing of two-year legal battleFreedom of choice. If young girls or boys would rather join group a than group b its up to group b to adapt. Maybe look at why you are losing 'customers' to your competitor and adjust the product you offer. I went to scouts as a kid and my sister guides and she was often jealous that we got to do more 'fun' activities while she got taught how to make decorations and cookies. | /r/MensRights | 28/12/20 07:35 AM |
| 1 | Are men oppressed?Have said this before the word oppressed is dangerous to use because it implies someone else is doing the oppressing and just leads to blame games and comparing who has it worse. Do men face systematic disadvantages? Yes. As do women in different areas. Change man/woman for any mix of race or religion or pretty much any category and the same is true to varying extents. Does this make either gender oppressed or oppressive? Not in my opinion. | /r/MensRights | 28/12/20 07:30 AM |
| 2 | What is your opinion of men have onlyfans accounts?Do whatever you want to. If it's legal and isn't mentally damaging for you then crack on. Just remember the internet is forever and once you put something up it's potentially always out there. | /r/MensRights | 26/12/20 09:18 AM |
| 3 | Where does male oppression come fromI dont like the term oppression to begin with because it implies there are oppressors. I personally view it more as competition. Life has always been about competition for resources and reproduction. It is the case for every other species and was for us evolutionarily. You then had tribes competing' countries competing etc with internal competition within that. Different groups have different competitive advantages they will look to exploit- tribe a might make better arrows but tribe b has bette… | /r/MensRights | 25/12/20 03:06 AM |
| 2 | Why does a beautiful woman rape a boy?Lets not paint it as it's understandable if unattractive sexually frustrated people rape but doesnt make sense if attractive people do it as they dont need to. Nobody on this earth can get any person they want. Everyone faces rejection or loss at some stage. The power and control element also cant be ignored. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/20 11:14 PM |
| 2 | There's been a lot talk lately about feminism having failed based on the below statistics. Does a prospective collapse of feminism make you happy and what is your honest opinion on why the movement has been unable to close gaps in wealth, income and power distribution to men?I am bored so forgive me for making a second and overly long comment but I thought I would address the direct points you made. 1) In the UK women are more likely to vote yet less likely to be a party member. Given that candidates are mostly chosen from within and by party members I would suggest this is a factor. The question then becomes are less women party members because they are more swing voters? Or less inclined to seek political influence? Do party members put forwards more male candidat… | /r/MensRights | 21/12/20 10:59 PM |
| 3 | There's been a lot talk lately about feminism having failed based on the below statistics. Does a prospective collapse of feminism make you happy and what is your honest opinion on why the movement has been unable to close gaps in wealth, income and power distribution to men?I would suggest a lot of your points come down to wanting equality of outcome as opposed to equality of opportunity. Of course looking at outcome is a useful indicator but it removes personal agency and behavioural differences from the equation. It would be like me complaining that men have shorter life expectancy without taking into account personal decisions like being more likely to smoke or drink or work physically dangerous jobs etc. If feminisms goal was equality of opportunity it has more… | /r/MensRights | 21/12/20 10:19 PM |
| 3 | Self awareness of individual activistsI respect where you are coming from. The problem is 'legitimate feminists' and 'influential feminists.' Sadly it is always the extremists who make the most noise and least sense. This is true of pretty much any social or political issue. Two points I would make are: This sub seems to at least try to call out the more extreme opinions whereas feminist subs seem more inclined to let them blend in with the rest. Big generalisation I know! More importantly feminism has a stranglehold on gender discu… | /r/MensRights | 21/12/20 01:34 PM |
| 6 | Self awareness of individual activistsWe aren’t the only good people who we need to fight for but attacking anyone makes you one of the bad people we fight against. Define attacking? There is nothing wrong with expressing disagreement with another persons opinion - that is the only way to have a proper debate. I disagree with patriachy theory. I dislike the use of deliberately manipulated statistics many feminists quote. That doesn't mean I am attacking feminists or a 'bad person' to be fought against. Just that I am honestly disagr… | /r/MensRights | 21/12/20 01:04 PM |
| 12 | What do you think of these articles about stopping boys from becoming "MeToo" perpetrators someday?Will never forget the sage advice from my mum upon saying I had my first girlfriend at 12 or so. 'Ok but you know not to make her do anything she doesn't want to.' In principle a fair thing to say. But the concept of me not wanting to do anything she wanted to didn't cross my mums mind. I doubt my sister was told she shouldn't make her boyfriend do anything he didnt want to - the conversation would have been you don't have to do anything he doesn't want to. The whole rhetoric paints boys as sexu… | /r/MensRights | 21/12/20 12:46 PM |
| 4 | As an autistic man, the systemic gender discrimination against men is especially visible and disturbing, and i'll tell you why.There is nothing I can say other than to offer my empathy from a position of sheer ignorance and wish you the best. Spreading information like you have may help others in the future if not yourself so fair play keep beating that drum. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/20 12:12 PM |
| 6 | As an autistic man, the systemic gender discrimination against men is especially visible and disturbing, and i'll tell you why.Wow never knew the drop in life expectancy for autistic people is so dramatic. Stats are just averages though mate. No reason you can't be knocking around in 50 years. Look after yourself and best of luck. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/20 07:32 AM |
| 2 | Recommendations for feminist literature?I am sure the likes of r/feminism etc. Have lists of resources. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/20 03:12 PM |
| 4 | Julie Burchill: “When the sex war is won prostitutes should be shot as collaborators for their terrible betrayal of all women…”Do the male prostitutes get left alone? Finally a feminist idea that is pro men! /s | /r/MensRights | 20/12/20 03:08 PM |
| 3 | What would you like women to do?Depends what my relationship is with that woman! Obviously you have different expectations from strangers to your boss or friends etc. Focusing on the relationship aspect as that is what you seemed to lead with. Unfortunately just like there is no magic list of what all women want from a relationship the same applies to men. I have friends in very traditional relationships and friends in polyamorous ones. In essence I think all most men and women want is to be treated as the individual that they… | /r/MensRights | 20/12/20 03:04 PM |
| 2 | I don't understand why MRA are a thing, I mean, feminism does fight for a lot of male issues, aswell.I didn't intend it as a strawman just to highlight that any conversation on equality needs to have input from a variety of sources. I accept feminism has achieved some good things for men but it has also created or perpetuated a lot of bad things. Your example of the updated definition of rape is interesting but upon reading it the definition they helped change it to is : "Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of… | /r/MensRights | 19/12/20 08:10 PM |
| 46 | Some of that toxic masculinity working at young age. A 7 year old boy saves his sister from burning home.This isn't toxic masculinity or male disposablity it is basic genetic programming - we are all programmed to protect our genes and that extends to our close relatives. Also you mention the boy was 7 but not that the girl was 22 months old! That is more noteworthy than their genders in the situation- if his 22 month old brother was in the room I doubt he would have just done nothing. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/20 07:48 PM |
| 2 | I don't understand why MRA are a thing, I mean, feminism does fight for a lot of male issues, aswell.Feminism in principle I have no issue with other than the historical revisionism when it comes to patriachy. Feminism in practice focuses on gender issues from a female perspective. That's fine but it also necessitates focus on gender issues from a male perspective to have a balanced conversation. It would be like tackling racism by only focusing on the issues Indians face while just telling all other ethnicities dont worry by helping Indians it will also help your issues. We are going to encour… | /r/MensRights | 19/12/20 07:41 PM |
| 1 | I can't speek for all of but these are my thoughts on men's mental health.There are two ways of looking at it. 1) men dont cry/ express emotions because they are told not to. 2) men dont cry / express emotions because they receive a negative response when they do so. I believe 2 to be the bigger cause. Male competition means that anything perceived as weakness is often exploited by other men. And women find weakness an unattractive trait. No one gender is to blame and biological differences are as much a factor as social conditioning. But social conditioning does exis… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/20 11:20 PM |
| 3 | Child Support Is a Scam - Tom LeykisWith the whole 'up until the age of 18' side beware that while child support may end at that stage you can still be obligated to financially support your ex. I'm 30 and the youngest. Over the last 12 years my dad has had to pay around £7.5k a year to my mum. That's £90k. Incidentally this is just taken out her benefit money so it does not benefit her financially just hurts him. She then has the gall to complain that he should do more to help us kids financially The court order is in place until … | /r/MensRights | 18/12/20 11:13 PM |
| 5 | Other Men’s thoughts on abortion?You have two options. 1) Abortion is illegal. Consequences? Back alley abortions. Making something illegal while often reducing it does not make it go away. If a woman wants an abortion I want that to be done with as little risk to her health as possible. Other consequences? An already overwhelmed foster care system being flooded with even more unwanted children. Or parents who do not want children feeling forced to have them which is hardly ideal. 2) Abortion is legal. Consequences? Depends on … | /r/MensRights | 18/12/20 08:20 AM |
| 1 | I want to do both.Bit of a late reply but... I absolutely believe that women face many struggles based on their gender. Obviously this varies from country to country but there are a lot of issues out there. I consider myself pro womens rights but opposed to feminism as it places too much emphasis on patriachy and is overly critical of any suggestion of male struggles unless they can also be shoehorned into being the fault of the patriachy. Just acknowledge that men face issues and (in the west) are grossly ignore… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 04:50 PM |
| 7 | For $33,000, You Can Now Hire Amber Heard, Who Admitted On Tape To Abusing Johnny Depp, To Talk About Domestic ViolenceI will bite although I'm aware it's likely a waste of time. The question is not 'women provoking men into bearing them' 'that is you deliberately phrasing a false position that paints women as victims and men as aggressors who ran out of patience. It's fairly well established that a vast % ( apparently 50%) of domestic violence is reciprocal men are less likely to report domestic violence So to frame any domestic violence situation as simply women provoking men into beating them is a terribly in… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/20 05:00 AM |
| 2 | Saddens me that this was found in unpopular. But glad many supports that stance.Does it though? The problem with fiction is that fans take their own ideas and put them onto scenarios the author didnt intend - the death of the author is an interesting summary of this concept. If someone of whatever gender or sexuality likes to think it would be nice if those two fictional characters got together in the end then who gives a shit? | /r/MensRights | 15/12/20 05:48 PM |
| 13 | Can anyone think of any true examples of “male privilege”?According to the law no. There are some simple biological advantages which I suppose you can label privileges. Not having periods Being on average stronger Naturally lower body fat % making it easier to be slim. Being on average taller. Which socially makes you more dominant in a conversation as people are literally looking up to you. That's the best I can come up with. | /r/MensRights | 12/12/20 12:07 AM |
| 8 | Should moms get paid for being moms? Some think so — and there's a new plan to provide a $2,400 monthly stipend.The weird part is the article says this will help integrate women into the workforce. It wont. It will take away any incentive to work when you can earn more for just looking after a child than a lot of full time employees. Ther article even suggests they should get holidays- what so free childcare while they enjoy their free money. This emotional labour and unpaid hours bullshit needs to stop. Yes looking after a child is difficult but that doesnt mean you should be paid to do it. Childcare is … | /r/MensRights | 11/12/20 11:56 PM |
| 2 | If a women ask for my seat, I won't give it up. But if she doesn't, chances are I will.Yeh of course there is a difference between 2 months gone and you cant tell to 8 months in and could clearly do with a seat. In the 2 month scenario I wouldn't give it a moments thought. 8 months I would feel like a dick sitting there ignoring her. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/20 07:41 PM |
| 3 | If a women ask for my seat, I won't give it up. But if she doesn't, chances are I will.Is it not just common decency? If I see a pregnant woman without a seat I offer her mine. If I see an elderly person without a seat i offer them mine. If I see a parent with a young child and there is only one spare seat next to me I will stand up so they can sit together. That's just recognising hey I am young and relatively healthy its easier for me to stand than you so take me seat. What's wrong with that? | /r/MensRights | 10/12/20 06:23 PM |
| 2 | Danny Masterson charged with rapes of 3 women after lengthy investigationIt does not violate the presumption of innocence by saying someone who may be a victim should not be made open to public scrutiny. The same way I also said I believe that someone who may be a perpetrator should not be made public until the trial is concluded. That doesn't presume their guilt or innocence - just that trials should be based upon evidence not identity and that nobody whether potential victim or potential criminal should be judged in the media before the court gives a verdict. Anony… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/20 12:21 AM |
| 3 | Woman Admits False Rape Case Filed Against Man 'Out Of Anger': Delhi High Court Accepts Her Unconditional ApologyYeh a fairer response would be ok apology accepted you do 77 days in jail. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Danny Masterson charged with rapes of 3 women after lengthy investigationI disagree its absolutely ok. They should have to identify in court in order to testify. But they dont have to make their identity public knowledge. Why should they and how does it prevent a fair trial? Equally I believe the press should not be allowed to publicise the names of accused offenses until the legal process has been concluded. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 10:47 PM |
| 3 | Rooting for you, love from a lesbianThis is interesting. Fair play if it works for you both but I have to ask when it comes to sex (other than for baby making purposes) will you both be pursing other people outside of the relationship? | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 07:51 PM |
| 7 | 'One mum called me and said her child had phoned her and asked whether it was still ok to be a boy and like rugby and rock music.'Guy I used to go to school with got U E D D as his AS level results. After school went into teaching first as a class assistant but now as a fully fledged primary school teacher. He is barely capable of teaching kids to tie their shoelaces but is now teaching them subjects he never understood himself. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 06:54 PM |
| 11 | 'One mum called me and said her child had phoned her and asked whether it was still ok to be a boy and like rugby and rock music.'You wonder if there are classes where girls are made to stuff a sock down their pants and imagine what it's like to have a penis? | /r/MensRights | 08/12/20 06:51 PM |
| 2 | The male pill - why are we still waiting?I actually had to take a pill for medical reasons years ago which essentially blocked the sperm on it's way out. I assume it's not a good long term thing - I was told not to have sex / masturbate while on it (was only a month.) Guess just blocking it off will lead to a build up which has to go somewhere. I did cum once while on it and orgasming with nothing coming out is a very weird experience. | /r/MensRights | 07/12/20 10:55 PM |
| 3 | Restrict interactions to required and critical onesFuck this shit. I wont 'stay away from women folks' - I like women as colleagues and friends. This fear mongering is just going too far. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 04:48 AM |
| 2 | YES! MRA's fighting back in Kenya - UN/WHO is forcing men in circumcision. Due to resistance it is now shifting to non consensual circ of infants - In Philippines 70% of boys get PTSD (Circs are done IN PUBLIC age ~10 - see paper and 40% in one cohort were infected)Yeh. I wasn't talking about why the practice developed just how simple it is to keep a penis clean with modern facilities. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 01:07 AM |
| 4 | YES! MRA's fighting back in Kenya - UN/WHO is forcing men in circumcision. Due to resistance it is now shifting to non consensual circ of infants - In Philippines 70% of boys get PTSD (Circs are done IN PUBLIC age ~10 - see paper and 40% in one cohort were infected)Yeh I wasnt commenting on the evolution of the practice just the question how to keep it clean in 2020. If someone asked about managing periods I would mention modern sanitary towels/ tampons etc. Not say just shove some moss or wool up there that's what happened historically. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/20 12:33 AM |
| 4 | Men should have a say if their wives want abortionI think women should always have the option to abort if they want to. Unfortunately that right means that realistically men dont get a say. They can offer an opinion but the final choice always has to be the womans. Its unfair but the best version of unfairness available given the restrictions of biology. Certainly preferable to a man being able to insist a woman carries a child she doesn't want to. Paper abortions is a bit of a different subject... I understand the grievance of having to financ… | /r/MensRights | 05/12/20 08:25 PM |
| 15 | YES! MRA's fighting back in Kenya - UN/WHO is forcing men in circumcision. Due to resistance it is now shifting to non consensual circ of infants - In Philippines 70% of boys get PTSD (Circs are done IN PUBLIC age ~10 - see paper and 40% in one cohort were infected)The same way you keep any part of your body clean - soap and water. All you have to do is teach your boys (if you have them) that they should also wash under the foreskin. It's not like it's a festering mess general basic hygiene does the job. | /r/MensRights | 05/12/20 08:00 PM |
| 2 | Opinions on this topic please? Mods please remove if against the rulesThe title is clickbaity (not yours the crossposted one.) I agree with the content though. It is an individuals choice - regardless of their gender - whether to pay for an only fans account or not. Nobody forced them to do it. Yes loneliness and/or sexual frustration is probably a factor. But their response to those problems being paying someone for private porn is their decision. I'm an alcoholic I dont blame my issues on the alcohol industry- it's my personal decisions that are the issue not th… | /r/MensRights | 03/12/20 08:26 PM |
| 1 | I heard a few stereotypes about men’s rights members and wonder if they are true?I get where you are coming from. However there is a difference between being unable to handle criticism and questioning the intent and phrasing of a poll. Unless you consider your poll itself to be a criticism? I accept you may not have been seeking evidence of sexism but the fact you deleted it because you felt the comments had confirmed a stereotype reeks of you seeking confirmation of a bias rather than a well intentioned query. I don't think my initial comment was 'toxic' but just a valid re… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/20 07:06 PM |
| 1 | I heard a few stereotypes about men’s rights members and wonder if they are true?Ok. 1) why did you delete the post so early? 2) What stereotypes did you think were proved correct? | /r/MensRights | 01/12/20 06:28 PM |
| 4 | Children can only have puberty blockers if they understand they're irreversible, High Court rulesCompletely agree. I remember earlier this year a now adult suing the NHS because as a child they asked for puberty blockers etc. and got them. They now as an adult regretted the decision and sued saying the NHS should have been more rigorous in questioning if they went ahead. 'I was only a kid.' If the NHS is more rigorous you get people like this kid suing them. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/20 06:27 PM |
| 2 | I heard a few stereotypes about men’s rights members and wonder if they are true?This is such a weird set of options which suggests an agenda on your part OP. The last option in particular. To say 'Men are better than women at some things' is an incomplete option as most people who choose that would say 'Men are better then women at some things and women are better than men at some things.' By excluding the second half of that you are setting up for a result you can then present as biased - see men think they are better! I voted women are equal as it was the best option from… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/20 06:21 PM |
| 1 | 1st post, Found out my hook up is pregnant.None personally. Divorced parents and a dad who has had to pay a silly amount of child support but obviously marriage is a different scenario to yours. I can't reiterate enough - speak to a lawyer rather than canvassing the opinion of random redditors. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 01:42 AM |
| 3 | 1st post, Found out my hook up is pregnant.I have no idea tbh. As to settling out of court.. get legal advice. If the figure she asks is less than the lawyer thinks a judge would recommend then take it. If it's more then go to court. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 01:32 AM |
| 6 | 1st post, Found out my hook up is pregnant.Ok first of all fuck anyone here telling you to do a disappearing act. Paternity test. If the kid is yours and the woman has no intentions of having an abortion your only option is to decide how much if at all you want to be involved in the kids life. If she asks for child support you're going to have to pay it. It's shit but that's how it is. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/20 01:28 AM |
| 164 | This is the first time I've personally seen a major news outlet reporting the suicide epidemic in Japan, and they still only focus on how women are affected.This is exactly the same rhetoric the BBC employs. More men are committing suicide than women as usual. But the real issue is that this gap is closing! We need to help women more! You would think people promoting gender equality would be happy to see statistical gender divides falling. Maybe the reason more women are killing themselves is because they are being more exposed to the economic and work pressures men face? Maybe just maybe a consequence of equality is more equal suffering? | /r/MensRights | 29/11/20 08:57 PM |
| 1 | “Real men” sacrifice themselvesNo I didn't but I dont expect someone who is being wilfully ignorant to say otherwise. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/20 07:13 PM |
| 1 | “Real men” sacrifice themselvesYeh. I said that seeing you call him 'a loser simp' and remarking that 'he died for a woman that wasn't even giving him pussy' has MGTOW undertones. Because it does. That doesn't mean you are definitely MGTOW but that the language you used made it reasonable for me to suggest that it sounded like MGTOW terminology. If I spoke about patriachy that wouldn't implicitly make me a feminist but it would be reasonable for you to believe what I was saying had feminist undertones or at least that I was u… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/20 06:49 PM |
| 1 | “Real men” sacrifice themselvesyour point; that, using the phrase "giving him pussy" means a person is MGTOW; or, that they are talking about a MGTOW subject. If you can show me where I said that then that would be a start. There is a world of difference between this sounds like xyz and this is xyz. A bit of an assumption on my part but it seems an accurate one. You're basically saying I said something I didn't and then going ah you cant refute the thing you didn't say. You have said nothing to back up your claim that he is a… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/20 06:08 PM |
| 1 | “Real men” sacrifice themselvesFocusing on the wording of the argument, rather than the argument itself, implies that you are simply unable to refute the actual argument ?? Half the 'argument' is about your phrasing and choice to use the demeaning phrase of giving him pussy. The other half is that you implied the fact she wasnt giving him pussy should have some bearing on how his choice to save her is viewed. You asked how one can go from having sex to being a mother; therefore. I provided a syllogism to demonstrate how A lea… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/20 05:55 PM |
| 1 | “Real men” sacrifice themselvesAgain you could say A = having sex instead of giving him pussy. Would you use the phrase giving her dick? Why the word giving? In any case A doesnt not necessarily lead to B or B to C. Yes it can happen that way but it isn't a definite or assumed pattern. you are asserting that the phrase "giving him pussy" is limited to MGTOW. No I'm not. I'm saying it is a manner of phrasing sex which sounds like the ideology of MGTOW. A movement can use language which predates it and still make that language … | /r/MensRights | 29/11/20 05:32 PM |
| 2 | “Real men” sacrifice themselvesIt's a bit of a leap from 'giving him pussy' to mother/ future mother. As to MGTOW - the phrasing giving him pussy is not exactly normal and implies she is giving something to him as opposed to a mutual relationship. It's just a weird phrasing that implies she is worth more to him if 'giving' sex and plays into the sexual economy stuff MGTOW spouts. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/20 04:38 PM |
| 2 | two comment threads i saw on a post regarding mens issues on instagramNever knew that! It's a tough line to draw between self harm that inadvertently leads to hospitalization and genuine attempts at suicide. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/20 04:05 PM |
| 1 | “Real men” sacrifice themselvesBecause, he owes her nothing. Yes. But her 'giving him pussy' wouldn't change that or make him owe her something. Whether they were or were not in a sexual relationship changes very little in my eyes. We need to talk about how Reddit works. Yeh you have people with different opinions. I was a bit harsh in my language but am frustrated at seeing this sub turn into MGTOW part 2. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/20 04:03 PM |
| 2 | Shaming men for touching genitals?Haha this just makes me think of a friend who used to stay the night a lot who queried why when I slept I apparently had my hand on my junk and she asked why and why does her boyfriend also do the same thing? My response was to stop it running away when I wasn't looking. Serious answer - no idea. I mean partly your hips are roughly arm length away. I guess it's just a fairly common natural thing ( self protection or self comfort?) As to when conscious- honestly most of the time it just needs adj… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/20 03:13 AM |
| 35 | two comment threads i saw on a post regarding mens issues on instagramThere are 3 logical conclusions from the fact women attempt suicide more but men succeed in suicidal attempts more: 1) Men are simply more efficient at getting the job done. They either use more effective methods or are just better at implementing those methods. 2) Women choose less effective methods because they are more concerned with the 'clean up' / effect on those who find them. 3) Women choose methods which demonstrate the intent without the commitment to effect. Essentially a cry for help… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/20 03:07 AM |
| 0 | The Top Golden rules of dating [RED PILL] ( this not be for everybody, so ready with cautionsJust my take on this list... 1) Its not another man's seed it's a child. I know plenty of healthy happy relationships where the man helps care for a child that isn't his. 2) To an extent I agree. 3) Yeh dont capitulate for a shitty person based on looks. That goes both ways. 4) Agreed. 5) Easily said when young. When older... time moves quicker. I know couples who have moved in and/or married within a year. Not inherently an issue. 6) Be responsible or be supportive? Half the point of a relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/20 01:52 AM |
| 6 | “Real men” sacrifice themselvesWhy would her 'giving him pussy' change anything? Piss off with this horseshit. | /r/MensRights | 28/11/20 08:23 PM |
| 9 | The glaring bias on the UN’s study on the unpaid domestic labor gapThe thing that always confuses me with these is what the hell do they think single people do? If I live alone and cook and clean etc. I dont think I'm doing unpaid labour. I'm looking after myself. When any article starts implying that thinking about "our son's first birthday, whether we should take family photos for the holidays, or scheduling a Zoom hangout with friends," is in any way work you know its bullshit. Thinking about taking holiday photos or talking to friends is not fucking work it… | /r/MensRights | 26/11/20 06:23 PM |
| 2 | Scotland becomes first country to make sanitary products freeLike you wouldn't be complaining if menstruating women got paid an extra amount in benefits to covery sanitary products. That's a far worse solution to my mind and would open a huge can of worms other whether men should be paid more benefits for needing more calories or do I need more benefits to pay for a halal diet etc. How would UBI change anything with respect to this issue? | /r/MensRights | 26/11/20 06:01 PM |
| 2 | Scotland becomes first country to make sanitary products freeSo what? I am more than happy to have what will be a minute fraction of my tax money go towards providing sanitary products for impoverished women. If it means they dont have to skip school or work' or cut back on other essentials they need' then it's money well spent. | /r/MensRights | 26/11/20 03:08 PM |
| 0 | Scotland becomes first country to make sanitary products freeWhy should a female CEO earning £100k a year get free sanitary products? Why would she? Someone in that position will likely pay for a high end product as opposed to the lower quality basic free product. I just dont get how anyone can have a problem with a low income women having the option of free sanitary products if she needs them. | /r/MensRights | 26/11/20 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Is this a double standard?That's fine. Every personal relationship is different. I know women who would tickle me for fun and men who wouldn't dream of it. Gender is not the issue here. Personal boundaries in different relationships is. | /r/MensRights | 26/11/20 03:19 AM |
| 1 | Is this a double standard?You are talking about a close personal relationship so the rules are between you two. There are male friends I would hug without question or explicit consent and female friends I would hesitate before doing so ( and vice versa.) A woman I am friends with used to have a thing about her knees being touched so I often grabbed her knees. It was playful affection nothing more. She's over it now so I dont do it any more - only fun pissing off your friend when it works! | /r/MensRights | 26/11/20 03:04 AM |
| 3 | I (18F) would love to better understand male daily problems, specially about society expectations or self-perceptionJust actually listen. That's all anyone wants when they are struggling - a confidante who wont judge them. In terms of general struggles or social expectation they are loosely the same regardless of gender (body image' what career do I choose' money worries' what is the purpose of life etc.) In terms of specific issues talk to him. If he doesn't want to talk or doesnt even know himself what is bugging him... not much you can do but be a positive in his life build trust and be there if he does wa… | /r/MensRights | 26/11/20 02:55 AM |
| 1 | I am not ok with tax payer money going to just one gender. I'm all for health care for all but, since we love equality, women tax money should go to tampons. Change my mind guys.That would not be a monopoly. The market is and will still be dominated by premium products. The introduction of free basic products will not affect the majority of the market. As to the 'free' market. Yes in principle someone could go around taking all the free products and then attempt to resell them. Assuming they somehow exhaust the free supplies and possess all the stock they still would not have a monopoly on the free product market as they would not be supplying free produce but product a… | /r/MensRights | 24/11/20 11:56 PM |
| 0 | I am not ok with tax payer money going to just one gender. I'm all for health care for all but, since we love equality, women tax money should go to tampons. Change my mind guys.'Women tax money should go to tampons' What do you mean? Segregate tax so it only comes out of female tax payers contributions not male? Why and how would that be helpful? I'm more than happy to pay for basic standard free tampons that I imagine will primarily be used only be women who need to take the basic free option as opposed to a higher quality product they cant afford. I agree there is an argument if tampons why not soap and toothbrushes etc. Most public spaces provide free soap and toile… | /r/MensRights | 24/11/20 08:51 PM |
| 1 | I am not ok with tax payer money going to just one gender. I'm all for health care for all but, since we love equality, women tax money should go to tampons. Change my mind guys.They aren't though its anonymous free vending machines. | /r/MensRights | 24/11/20 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Found this crazy articleIt feels like satire but sadly probably isnt. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/20 10:01 PM |
| 5 | He misses his daughter. It's a long post, but feedback would be great.Just tell him things can and will get better. It is expensive and painful but does happen. My mum fought tooth and nail for my dad not to have any custody and would try and turn us kids against him with wild accusations and trying to put words into our mouths that she could then use in court. It hurt my dad and cost him money but he eventually secured every other weekend ... not a lot not 50/50 but this was 20 years ago and things have improved. I moved in with my dad full time at 16 when I had … | /r/MensRights | 20/11/20 01:10 PM |
| 6 | Do men's rights proponents care about opressive gender roles?Personally speaking I think feminism is correct when identifying the negative aspects of traditional gender roles. Where it falters is: The explanation for the evolution of those roles ( patriarchy/ male oppression as opposed to the reality of biological differences that determined roles in a pre modern/ technological society.) Removing these roles being assumed to be something everyone wants. I know plenty of traditional couples who enjoy their stereotypical roles and nobody should condemn or b… | /r/MensRights | 20/11/20 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Is there any scientific article that debunks the wage gap?The biggest issue with the wage gap is how income is measured and how that discrepancy is represented. Most would agree people should be paid the same for doing the same job regardless of gender. They mostly are. The reality is it is a massively different thing to say men are paid more than women because the average man earns more money (although under 30 in the UK the reverse is actually true) and to say men earn more money than women for doing the same job. If we take a woman who is a successf… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/20 09:07 PM |
| 4 | An ethical dilemma I saw online.This is where the word rape needs to stop being used as the be all and end all when it comes to sexual dishonesty / assault. I dont think the guy raped her in the conventional sense of forced penetration. I do think he deceived her by saying yes I will have sex for the express purpose of trying to impregnate you and then using a contraceptive. Flip it around. If a woman had sex with a man for the stated intent of conceiving but was on the pill' I would not consider her to have committed sexual a… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/20 06:35 PM |
| 3 | 3 women filed complaints with Stanford’s Title IX Office against the same student. He faced no repercussions.Would she lie down next to a lion and not expect to get eaten? What an absurd comparison. What so if a woman lies down next to me she has to expect I'm going to start dry humping her and ignore requests to stop? You can say people should be cautious but I disagree that sharing a bed with someone is an invitation to have them force anything. I have shared a bed with several female friends over the years without feeling the need to have sex. Let alone force a situation. I'm sorry but to me your po… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/20 12:27 PM |
| 12 | Feminist Boys are our Future Men: Changing Culture of Sexual Violence | ...I made myself sit through it just to see if there was a hint of reason at any stage... there wasn't. She quoted 1/6 women will be raped then said if you dont believe me 7/1000 women in this city reported being raped... that she thinks 17% correlates with 0.7% says a lot about the level of thought put into this kind of bullshit. I feel for her sons because I was raised by a single mum who taught me men were rapists and that I was worth less than my sister because she was a woman and I was a man. … | /r/MensRights | 18/11/20 11:18 PM |
| 3 | How come it’s always “men harassing women,” “the creepy guys at the bar hitting on all the women,” etc ... and not the other way around?Can confirm as an alcoholic lol. Took me years to understand that people went out socially to hook up. I went out to get drunk. Its not just bars though its everything. Used to go to the gym a lot with a girl I knew and she would complain that I wasnt dressed well / didnt look good. My logic was I'm at the gym to exercise not seduce someone. Her logic was you should always look your best to attract people. I guess I'm a simpleton who views going to x event as to do x' not to try and have sex. | /r/MensRights | 18/11/20 01:57 PM |
| 1 | Damsel in distress is an old theme in art and movies. My guess is that nowadays it's not politically correct and thus has been replaced by something different. But what?I dong care who is saving who I care that there is a good plot' character development and intrigue. Nothing wrong with a man saving a woman or vice versa. But it's boring if there isnt a sense of danger and that they might not succeed. | /r/MensRights | 18/11/20 01:34 PM |
| 2 | 3 women filed complaints with Stanford’s Title IX Office against the same student. He faced no repercussions.I dont think you can really label this false accusation! When you say They are teaching women to try to ruin men for natural male behavior. They should be taught to deal with sexual advances, not treat it like some got damn crime. ... She told the office she awoke to the responding student thrusting his erect penis against her lower back, later pinning her right arm so that she couldn’t move, while inappropriately touching her. Throughout, he told her he had never had sex before. Symere said she… | /r/MensRights | 18/11/20 01:25 PM |
| 7 | Your opinionIs there any evidence for your assertion most incels are trump supporters? Yes we can agree trump is right wing but without substantiating the first part of what you said its meaningless. I repeat - why did you ask the question in your OP about the political leanings of this sub? Forgive my cynicism but this seems like an all MRA are incels and all incels are Republican and all Republicans are bad type effort. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/20 10:14 PM |
| 130 | Law Designed to Catch Men has "Inadvertently" Caught Women, Women Don't Like It.This whole article is hilarious. Basically just we are being treated more equally and we dont like it. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/20 09:47 PM |
| 6 | Your opinionIt seems to be a bit right of centre but fairly diverse. I dont see a prevalence of liberal or conservative opinion as particularly relevant to the majority of issues discussed. Your last sentence covers that perfectly. Why do you ask this question and associate incel with right wing? | /r/MensRights | 16/11/20 09:43 PM |
| 9 | UK: 'Bring back manly men!' Harry Styles is SLAMMED for wearing a dress in Vogue as jounalist insists 'no society can survive without strong' males. The feminization of men at the same time that Marxism is being taught to children is no coincidenceI dont get the point you are making? Is it bad that a journalist criticises him wearing a dress because they are pushing a version of masculinity? Or bad that he is wearing a dress because this is feminising men? How is Marxism relevant? | /r/MensRights | 16/11/20 09:39 PM |
| 3 | PlayStation 5: Gift from a man -vs- Gift from a woman.Have the mods just given up? It's nice that the guy is proposing to his girlfriend. It's a bit tongue in cheek but perfectly fine for the girl to say no ps5 we have a baby coming! This post has fuck all to do with mens rights and I fail to see the point of it being on here. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/20 02:06 AM |
| 4 | 16-year-old boy shares his story about being forced to be trans by motherYeh my thoughts exactly. Shitty if/when it does happen but the way the article is written is just too on the nose. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/20 01:59 AM |
| 1 | Women represented in the workforce more is now a bad thing.It's almost like they are a diverse group some of whom want different things... | /r/MensRights | 14/11/20 10:06 PM |
| 4 | Women represented in the workforce more is now a bad thing.To be fair I agree with the premise of the title. It is an issue that you basically need both people in a couple working to afford what used to be affordable with one of the two working. Single people are fucked as they are competing in the housing market with people on 2 salaries not one. As one of the comments in that post puts it' equality would be more men being stay at home parents and more women bring bread winners. Having both need to work is more reflective of economic issues than social… | /r/MensRights | 14/11/20 10:04 PM |
| 2 | Could someone help me fact check my essay on the discrimination of men in the justice system?I dont know what country you are in but with respect to crime statistics the UK office of national statistics is a good place to start when it comes to perpetrators and victims of crime broken down by gender. You can then correlate that with support for victims based on gender. Search around on the official UK government website or just google support for an issue like domestic violence and see how women focused it is when the first link I provided shows 1/3 of victims are male. Sorry it's late … | /r/MensRights | 12/11/20 02:55 AM |
| 3 | Could someone help me fact check my essay on the discrimination of men in the justice system?Another example is that in most divorce cases the woman gets 90% of belongings plus the children. I would suggest having a citation for this if you want to include it. 90% sounds inaccurately high. With your examples on child support try and find overall statistics - cases can always be cherry picked it's better if you can document an overall trend. I would avoid the some women rhetoric. Keep it fact based not accusationary. In general provide more sources. This - while a good effort - comes acr… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/20 12:27 AM |
| 2 | Market Watch Article - I paid for my wife’s M.A. and vacations. I suggested we save for a house, but she left me — and my in-laws told me to be a manIt's a case of split finances not being actually split. If both of them paid their full pay into the joint account and agreed to share all costs then fine. If she holds money back for another account while burdening the joint expenses with her education costs that is not ok. I would say it sounds like he left her not she left him. But I can't blame the guy for being frustrated at having to finance her education while she kept back money to go on holidays. It's easy with hindsight but where was t… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/20 12:16 AM |
| 4 | I know it’s kinda old but feminists are really getting offended about everything nowThe problem is that this argument is for a change of linguistics and language does not instantly shift to suit newly decided rules. If I say 'my friend who is a woman' that is a clunky less efficient way of saying 'my female friend.' I cant say girl friend or woman friend as these have potentially ambiguous meanings as they are often associated with relationships. Very few people hearing 'my female friend' will think I am referring to anything but a woman. Maybe a few will think I mean my cat or… | /r/MensRights | 11/11/20 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Views on feminismDo you self-identify as a feminist? Absolutely not. Although the term feminist is in itself broad and ambiguous' at its core is patriarchy theory which I consider a deliberately inaccurate depiction of western society. How do you define feminism? In principle it is about gender equality which I completely support. In practice it is about gender equality for women first and men as a byproduct if at all' a subtle but important difference. Feminism raises valid and important issues' where it falls … | /r/MensRights | 11/11/20 10:14 PM |
| 3 | The epic fail of feminists SNOW clearing policy, and now driving is a gender issue too... what happens when you are a gender warrior and insert gender and patriarchy into everything.. even absurd things, this is what you get (feminists snow policy was epic fail made things worse)Equality snow removal had to be the daftest idea I have heard in a long time. How about you clear the roads where vehicles travel at 30mph then worry about the pavements where people walk at 3-5mph! | /r/MensRights | 11/11/20 12:51 PM |
| 1 | We live in a gynocentric society that outlaws prostitution but actively enforces marriage which is slavery on menThere is an obvious distinction between sex being part of what you want from the relationship and sex being all you want from the relationship. Yes sex is a key part of a relationship. No that doesnt mean someone saying 'ugh I have to fake liking this person just to get some sex' isnt a bit of an unhealthy attitude. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/20 02:29 PM |
| 1 | We live in a gynocentric society that outlaws prostitution but actively enforces marriage which is slavery on menOk I mean maybe if you wanted more out of a relationship than just sex and didnt find it a pain 'pretending to like the person' you wouldnt find it so difficult. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/20 10:43 AM |
| 1 | We live in a gynocentric society that outlaws prostitution but actively enforces marriage which is slavery on menI'm not Christian - prostitution doesn't offend me in fact I have had sex with prostitutes. I am well aware of the pitfalls of marriage' I am 30 and my Dad still has to pay £600 a month to my mum. 12 years after i turned 18 he still has to pay her money. My objection to your post (and further comments) is this presentation of sex as being always a traded commodity. It's not. The idea that outlawing prostitution forces men into marriage is absurd and inaccurate. It reinforces the false notion tha… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/20 02:40 AM |
| 7 | We live in a gynocentric society that outlaws prostitution but actively enforces marriage which is slavery on menThe quality of this sub is in the gutter right now. Fuck these nonsense posts. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/20 01:04 AM |
| 10 | The Netherlands revises the rape laws, changes it to a completely non gendered law!Its great progress if it's actually applied to both men and women. I still find the whole freezing side problematic. I get this occurs in genuine cases of sexual assault so does need to be considered' but it does still come across that you can believe you are having consensual sex with someone and they can then say oh no I didnt want to have sex I just wasnt able to say no and felt pressured to respond enthusiastically. Dont really see a practical solution to that. | /r/MensRights | 05/11/20 05:27 PM |
| 3 | 4th family court date she's missedCan your lawyer not push for contempt of court if she refuses to attend? People can be tried in absence- surely at some stage they can make a judgement in her absence and its tough on her for not being there to present her side. | /r/MensRights | 05/11/20 10:51 AM |
| 2 | Paper AbortionsSaid yes within a timeframe. If the woman can opt out by getting an abortion even if she previously wanted the pregnancy' the man should get the same right for the same timeframe. I get the good of the child argument but when you have so many children without fathers anyway and state support exists I just dont buy it. Society can finance the child' already does with any kid to a large extent so the cost doesn't bother me. The only concern I would have is the potential for couples to abuse this b… | /r/MensRights | 05/11/20 10:14 AM |
| 2 | Where did the idea that men can't hit women come from?If a woman hits me I am likely to be able to restrain her without hitting her so why resort to that? Had a woman hit me who was like 5"2 and skinny. I just grabbed her wrists and told her to calm down. It would have been unnecessary for me to hit her back when I could physically prevent violence just through size advantage. However if Ronda Rousey hits me I'm likely to be knocked out! If I am still standing and cant run away I will fight back with everything I have as it's my only option. And wo… | /r/MensRights | 03/11/20 12:32 PM |
| 1 | Question about the sentiment of individual agencyI'm not American so not best placed to comment. Individual agency is undoubtedly a factor. As much as you can categorize people into groups and observe x group does better at y ' there will always be outliers. To say black people are more likely to be arrested is accurate' as is saying men are more likely to be arrested than women. That doesn't mean being a black man condemns you to being arrested' you still have a level of personal autonomy which influences your chances. Being a man doesnt inst… | /r/MensRights | 02/11/20 05:29 PM |
| 17 | I'm so proud of these two random guys last nightYay random guys assuming the drunk woman is the victim... 'Everything alright'.. 'yeh she's my daughter'... 'ok cool' That's fine.. 'Do you need help'... 'is this man bothering you" etc. Is assuming the situation and nothing to applaud. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/20 12:24 PM |
| 13 | UK: Government will ensure women have access to female-only lavatories in public buildings: OP But no mention of male only public toilets.The best solution would be just a series of toilets complete with washing basins that are all separate and can be used by either gender. No worries for trans people' parents with kids etc. Just a multi purpose toilet for whoever needs it. The problem is space. The proposed solution of saying womens toilets are sacred space and mens toilets are a free for all... its blatantly sexist and feeds into the idea women need to be safe from men but men dont need to be safe from women. | /r/MensRights | 31/10/20 07:34 PM |
| 3 | To Fathers with sons: how do you prepare them for adulthood?Honestly my unpopular view would be to teach them to always put themselves first. We have a general culture of raising children of either gender to be placid and think if they are 'nice' the world will be 'nice' back to them. The truth is if you are 'nice' people will take advantage of you. People are inherently selfish and if you aren't you will be manipulated. How to balance that with discipline for a child I dont know... but honestly my life experience is people are cunts and you better be re… | /r/MensRights | 31/10/20 07:30 PM |
| 2 | Women like this is why my channel existsThe crocodile tears point is a good one. You will often see complaints about how women are infantilised. Yet in an argument a lot of womens go to strategy is to infantilise themselves. Either haha arent I cute' or wawa you upset me. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/20 12:44 PM |
| 3 | What is your opinion on abortions?I am completely pro abortion as a last resort option. In an ideal world, either people use contraception or only conceive when both adults want to. In the real world, sometimes people dont use contraception and sometimes it fails anyway. If caught early, the 'morning after' pill can be seen as a mid point between contraception and abortion. If not noticed until this is not a viable option, the alternatives are have a child you dont want or have an abortion. That's ignoring the medical abortions … | /r/MensRights | 29/10/20 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Hey guys I'm writing a policy brief for school over the next couple of days for my sociology class theories of family and kinship. I wanted to do a policy brief on a men's rights issue in Canada that has some effect on families.Check the FAQ for a lot of links. If you want to look into mens rights and the effect on families, a possible topic could be the effect of fatherless childhoods on children. There is a lot of easily accessed research out there on the negative affects on children of removing a father from a family. It produces more criminals, more addicts, lower income prospects etc. | /r/MensRights | 29/10/20 12:40 AM |
| 2 | Women can make thousands of dollars a day selling pictures of their feet.No you would not be sued for harassment for selling pictures, male only fans accounts exist. Yes you might make less money than a woman. | /r/MensRights | 29/10/20 12:36 AM |
| 2 | Could an MRA ever become a politician? Asking for me personally...Unfortunately, the way our system is built, one of the fundamental factors in being a successful politician is compromising on your ideals. It depends on your ambitions, could you be a local politician without much compromise? Probably, depending on how closely the local demographic aligns with your views. Can you be a national politician without compromise? No. That's not to say compromise is inherently bad, it's one of the key points of logical discussion. But the higher you climb the more dil… | /r/MensRights | 29/10/20 12:17 AM |
| 23 | You don’t have to work. You just need to have feelings and join a special club. One that confirms you are a victim for life.Emotional labour is up there with the best feminist scams, not by saying it exists but by insisting that only women experience it. I have had female housemates say I am better at cleaning, some even suggest well you enjoy it more than I do. When I responded I dont enjoy it but am fulfilling a necessary task you refuse to share, shocked pikachu faces. If a man asks what restaurant do you want to go to tonight? Emotional labour! If a man chooses a restaurant without discussion, controlling and pos… | /r/MensRights | 28/10/20 11:46 PM |
| 2 | Do women get special treatment in the military?Fucks sake... The article was referring to pow torture not training, stop shifting the goalposts. gender reversal time: how would you feel if every woman had to go through rape? You wouldn't dare to say anything but bad about it? but here you are not doing the same thing to men? You have an odd concept of gender reversal. A gender reversal would be women being forced to go through torturous training, not rape. Or every man being raped. I repeat, yes it is an issue that conscription exists. Yes i… | /r/MensRights | 27/10/20 02:57 PM |
| 2 | Do women get special treatment in the military?The female pov was grateful she was raped instead of the torture men endured. Yup she was. But she is talking about pow torture not routine training, you are deliberately ignoring that. Military conscription is still there in 70 countries, Yeh. I have said it is an issue which needs addressing. That doesn't make your statement that being raped is better than being forced into military training any better. I would much rather be forced into military training than suffer sexual assault. What if ev… | /r/MensRights | 27/10/20 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Do women get special treatment in the military?That article is about a pow situation and relates to men being tortured not men undergoing routine military training. Yes military conscription exists and is an injustice. However it has not been implemented in most western countries for decades. To portray the average American soldier as being forced into the military is inaccurate, they choose it. Yes the military is predominantly male and they suffer 'protecting society' - ie. Enforcing western values on other parts of the world. No men servi… | /r/MensRights | 27/10/20 01:58 PM |
| 2 | Do women get special treatment in the military?Oh come on. When you say sex , you ignore that it is unconsensual sex. When you say excruciating training, you ignore that it is consensual training. Yes I'm sure there are areas ( physical requirements on tests etc.) Where women have an easier time in the military. I'm also sure that those who are raped dont think 'well lucky me at least I didnt have to do that horrible training exercise.' | /r/MensRights | 27/10/20 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Elizabeth Hobson and Greta Aurora Q&A with mostly MRA focused questionsYou genuinely believe that it's a valid suggestion that either a man or woman shouldn't work incase they meet a better option? | /r/MensRights | 25/10/20 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Elizabeth Hobson and Greta Aurora Q&A with mostly MRA focused questionsOh great the idiot from one conversation joins another one. Do you want to go through all my comments and find stuff to argue about? I agree that the consequences of marital breakdown skew towards benefiting women. The point I made is that the potential to find a new romantic partner at work is a poor reason to suggest women shouldn't work. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/20 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Woman strangles Tinder date - 3 yrs prison. Man 'rapes' Tinder date - 11 yrs prisonLook, you're clearly not interested in men's equality, would you mind leaving my post and going elsewhere? It is grossly unfair to equate me saying trans people have a voice and I dont support you condemning them with not supporting mens equality. You are doing exactly what you accuse others of and saying my opinion should not be aired because you dont like it. Is that hypocrisy lost on you? (Democratic Party style goalpost shifting example: 1. they didn't report you, prove it 2. oh you proved i… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/20 11:03 PM |
| 5 | Single mothers and dating expectationsOf course it narrows her options but that doesnt mean she has to settle for someone she is unhappy with. If I got in a relationship with a single mum, yes I would think twice in terms of the added responsibility of a child being in the equation and whether that impacts her desire to have more children vs my desire to procreate. But it would not be an immediate deal breaker. I find this 'value' concept that has got into dating strange. There are many couples I know where one is more attractive or… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/20 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Woman strangles Tinder date - 3 yrs prison. Man 'rapes' Tinder date - 11 yrs prisonNo I didnt read through all their comments just skimmed the posts you linked, sorry I'm not going to go through everything. That being said your interaction with AcidKritana is pushing the boundary in terms of respectful dialogue and you know it is. I do course agree with freedom of speech and you can express your opinions, but the part people seem to miss is freedom of speech comes with responsibility for that speech. If you want to criticise trans people, dont complain when they dont like it. … | /r/MensRights | 25/10/20 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Woman strangles Tinder date - 3 yrs prison. Man 'rapes' Tinder date - 11 yrs prisonI looked at the posts you linked and dont see any real confrontation either way, other than that you mention being reported for not promoting trans surgery - no evidence of your claim just a claim and denial from the person you accused. As to it being 'all about them' , everyone has their own perspective. I have a different experience of gender equality living in the UK to someone in Canada or India etc. I have a different experience of being a man as a white male as opposed to a black male, bei… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/20 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Woman strangles Tinder date - 3 yrs prison. Man 'rapes' Tinder date - 11 yrs prisonWhat's your problem with trans people posting on this sub? It's great if there is a variety of men, women, trans men, trans women, non binary etc. Posting here. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/20 01:17 PM |
| 3 | Just doing a little experimentDo you realise that the poll shows without the question unless you click on the post? Given that other polls dont have this problem, it feels deliberate. I imagine some people have just taken it as are you a man/woman/neutral without clicking onto the post and seeing what you are actually asking. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/20 01:09 PM |
| 4 | Advice/Help Requestedhow to either get my wife to recognize and repent from her abuse, or to leave safely? It is very difficult to get abusers to recognize their abuse. I appreciate you love her but dont waste energy trying to change something that is unlikely to change. If you are at a stage where you have looked into domestic abuse shelters, you already know you need to leave. When you say you are the sole income for the family - are there kids involved? If so, cutting and running is not a good idea assuming you w… | /r/MensRights | 23/10/20 06:50 PM |
| 5 | Never forget that John Cleese (from Monty Python) divorce.I cant comprehend this. If they didnt have kids and his children were already adults when they met, what on earth was her 'contribution' to his wealth generation? How can anyone say she deserves over 22 million just for marrying someone who was successful long before he met her? | /r/MensRights | 22/10/20 04:57 PM |
| 1 | I'd like to have a discussion. I've had depression, linked to male issuesAlso live in the UK and have interacted with mental health services for years. First point I would make is be persistent and be honest. Unfortunately if you say you have an issue once your GP will just make a note and leave it at that - you have to push the issue. With respect to therapists, if you feel one is dismissing your concerns ask to change. However, I would say the best therapists challenge you instead of nodding along. Its very easy to see that you should move on from a painful experie… | /r/MensRights | 22/10/20 11:31 AM |
| 1 | Elizabeth Hobson and Greta Aurora Q&A with mostly MRA focused questionsthere is just 0 incentive to stay together for a women if she can get a richer guy Of course there is. Like staying with someone she loves. Yeh people are attracted to successful people, but not to the stage of well I'm going to leave my loving husband of the last 20 years because this other guy earns £50k a year more. pretty young man she gave him her good time and later when she had no options because she became less attractive the man stayed with her and paid for her and he got basically more… | /r/MensRights | 22/10/20 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Elizabeth Hobson and Greta Aurora Q&A with mostly MRA focused questionsI meant strawman presented directly to me. It felt a deliberate mischaracterisation of what I was saying. I have advocated for not allow women to work, while I only said that they either should not have no fault divorce or should give up a career. Why? Why should women have a choice between a career or the freedom to end a marriage? With your fast food point, are you saying it's fine for married women to work just so long as it's not a good job? I dont get it? And that they have to most likely s… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/20 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Elizabeth Hobson and Greta Aurora Q&A with mostly MRA focused questionsSorry if you find me presenting reasons I disagree with you frustrating I'm just trying to explain my rationale. the question was why do you think that is the case could it be that older man have on average more money/income/status? You of course did not answer that question. So I am not accused of dodging questions, yes I imagine it is a factor that someone offering a better quality of life is a more attractive partner. But money is not the sole factor. It was not my intention to shift an incom… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/20 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Elizabeth Hobson and Greta Aurora Q&A with mostly MRA focused questionsThis whole comment is the most ridiculous straw man I have ever read. I never said I would cheer on a woman cheating, I said that the likelihood of meeting someone you are attracted to at work is a stupid reason to suggest women shouldnt work. Also, yes relationships break down. That's life. There is no double standard in what I said, any person of any gender should be free to work and free to leave a relationship that doesnt make them happy. If a man or woman has an affair, its regrettable but … | /r/MensRights | 21/10/20 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Elizabeth Hobson and Greta Aurora Q&A with mostly MRA focused questionsbased on nothing? I would have taken you 1% more serious (from 0%) if you were the women and would therefor know how you think as women). Not based on nothing. My two closest friends are both married to older women, my sister just bought a house with a younger man. A good friend of mine is in a long term relationship with a younger man. I know a woman who just got engaged to a younger man who was in prison at the time and they live in her house. It is just blatantly wrong to say women only go fo… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/20 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Elizabeth Hobson and Greta Aurora Q&A with mostly MRA focused questionsI really disagree with this notion that the attraction in a relationship is based upon financial success and this whole sexual market value idea. No I dont think that me earning 10k more than my partner makes me so much more attractive than if I earned the same or less than her. women have to give up something either careers or no fault divorce laws Neither of these should be given up. No fault divorces are a good thing, you should have the freedom to leave an unhappy relationship. Women having … | /r/MensRights | 21/10/20 12:15 PM |
| 3 | Questions - I am newwouldn't agree that society puts women's welfare above men in general, that seems to be the same kind of attitude as the one that perpetuates male privilege. I get your point but society does spend more money on women than men in healthcare and social programs. As a personal example, having been through the rehab system it was shocking how preferentially women were treated in ease of securing funding. Man drinking to death? Join the queue. Woman drinking to death, panic take our money!! That is … | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 09:14 PM |
| 3 | Questions - I am newFair points well made. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Questions - I am newYeh I mean no offense and dont participate in MGTOW communities so dont really know. What I was trying to say is that to me as an outsider it seems an expression of frustration at current society as opposed to a real desire. I dont think many women who say kill all men actually want that, I dont think many men who say no women in my life actually want that. Anger isn't irrational, it's a logical reaction to feeling mistreated. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 01:22 PM |
| 3 | Questions - I am newCheck the FAQ for a comprehensive answer. As a brief summary; court discrimination is not just family courts but general sentencing. There are state funded projects to get more women into STEM while ignoring that less men get into higher education. In general 'progressive' social funding is mostly focused on women, men make up 1/3 of reported domestic violence cases yet receive less than 5% of funding. I wont go on but the general point is that the welfare of women is put above the welfare of me… | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 01:44 AM |
| 32 | Here's one for you guys: Women gets an abortion after her and her partner agree to having kids. Commenters keep repeating "her body, her choice". People sympthazing with the man get down voted.I dont think that's accurate, plenty of sympathetic comments are high up. In fact a lot of the 'her body her choice' comments are downvoted. I feel for the guy, having your partner back out and abort your child is horrible. Yes he doesnt have the same power she does in that situation, it's almost like we are biologically different... | /r/MensRights | 20/10/20 01:25 AM |
| 7 | Every group has a “Jimmy” and guys need to do more to change it.Call out men and women when they act inappropriately You can say this but your original post was just about Jimmy not a Jimmy or a Jane. There is nothing wrong with saying call out either gender when they have had too much to drink and are misbehaving in any way, it is deliberately provocative of you to post on a mens right sub focusing only on male misdemeanor. don’t act like they happen equally. The main difference is that when Jane does such things nobody bats an eyelid. If a guy doesnt like … | /r/MensRights | 19/10/20 03:24 PM |
| 27 | Outrage as Finnish Court Orders Man to Pay Alimony for Child That Resulted From His Wife CheatingFair point about government holding DNA on every citizen, although I think that's the way the world is going to go regardless. But yeh I accept for now a better solution would be a change to the law such that anyone can surrender parental obligations if they discover within any timeframe it's not their child. Problem is like anything people will just exploit this, why pay to support my step child when I can claim not to and have the state and/or biological father contribute? Any time there is an… | /r/MensRights | 19/10/20 03:11 PM |
| 267 | Outrage as Finnish Court Orders Man to Pay Alimony for Child That Resulted From His Wife CheatingThis is utterly absurd. She cheated on him but didnt tell him until 2 years later. The court says well he should have had a paternity test within 2 years, despite him not knowing she had cheated. The only solution to this is mandatory paternity tests when every child is born. | /r/MensRights | 19/10/20 01:10 PM |
| 3 | [Poll]Is the Japanese Government sexist for not having expectations from women, but still helping them ?I'm just surprised that Japan claims to only have less than 5 1/2 thousand homeless. That has to be bullshit for a county of that size. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/20 10:32 PM |
| 7 | PSA from a guy who has done few acts of merit on the subLooked at your post and comment history to see these acts of merit. Your main recent activity seems to be internet stalking some poor random woman for daring to comment on this sub. Well gee thanks for your service! /s because apparently reddit needs sarcasm spelled out. | /r/MensRights | 17/10/20 02:53 PM |
| 7 | A discussion/poll about Leadership and AssholesI think the premise of leadership is not really applicable to loose collectives like MRA or Feminism. More vocal / influential members, sure. That doesn't make them leaders within a power structure, just more vocal individuals. Of course there are organised versions of MRA/ feminism, but let's be fair the majority of self identified members dont belong to some club or follow certain edicts. I do think there are some MRA who hate women, and some feminists who hate men. It's true of pretty much ev… | /r/MensRights | 16/10/20 10:24 PM |
| 28 | Karen’s manHonestly from your comments you are clearly trolling. My main question is why? What on earth do you get out of being an idiot for a few hours on the internet? To address your post about sexual abuse of children, Data from U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services “Child Maltreatment” reports, 2001-2006* : Percent of cases involving one parent acting either alone or in concert with someone other than the child’s other parent Mother Involved But Not Father- 70.6% Resulting in fatality -70.8% Father … | /r/MensRights | 16/10/20 08:08 PM |
| 1 | What are some women's issues?Ok, but the initial point I made was about likelihood of assault not harassment. I cant see a definition of sexual harassment on their website as this section is focused on sexual assault but I may be missing it, have a look yourself if you can find it. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here? | /r/MensRights | 16/10/20 02:38 AM |
| 1 | What are some women's issues?Just looking at my post again think I misread the police part - it's not that they have taken police data, its stating there is an overlap as they include both unreported and reported assaults. So the only discrepancy between the way they usually report crime and how they report sexual assault is taking a 3 year average not just the last years results. | /r/MensRights | 15/10/20 03:12 PM |
| 1 | What are some women's issues?"Sexual assaults measured by the CSEW cover: rape (including attempts) assault by penetration (including attempts) causing sexual activity without consent5 indecent exposure unwanted touching The CSEW term “sexual assault” differs from the term “sexual assault” in police recorded crime, CPS and MoJ data, which refers to one specific type of sexual offence – the sexual touching of a person without their consent." I did also just see "Information from the CSEW on reporting rape or assault by penet… | /r/MensRights | 15/10/20 03:09 PM |
| 1 | What are some women's issues?You can only go off the data available, while I recognise those numbers may be imperfect there is nothing else to really go by. The Crime Survey for England and Wales in 2019 recorded that "Women were nearly four times as likely as men to have experienced sexual assault in the last year (3.4% compared with 0.9%)" The crime survey is not related to police prosecutions, it is just a survey of the public. They estimate their data to have a 5% margin of error, so it's a fairly accurate view that doe… | /r/MensRights | 15/10/20 02:44 PM |
| 2 | What are some women's issues?Ah that's new to me, fair enough. At least we dont just run out of sperm, imagine if guys had a finite number of sperm the same way women have a finite number of eggs. Most men would be impotent at 14! | /r/MensRights | 15/10/20 01:12 PM |
| 4 | What are some women's issues?Women have a greater chance of being sexually assaulted in their life. Their chances of conceiving dramatically reduce from 30+ , creating a time pressure men dont really have to face. Tied into that, they go from having much more dating power under 30 to a more level playing field. These two factors lead to a lot of women complaining about men pursuing younger women once they no longer enjoy the advantages of being a younger women. Women are on average physically weaker, which makes it harder t… | /r/MensRights | 15/10/20 12:28 PM |
| 3 | I am doing a research paper for college English class. I would like to know about this group's subculture of men's rights.Will do my best, but straight off the bat the issue is you are asking for individual opinions to describe a group / subculture. It's like asking an Anglo-Indian person for their opinion on the subculture of Anglo-Indians. An informed opinion, yes, but absolutely not a definitive one. Every individual will have varying experiences and opinions. So my first comment is dont define 'subcultures' by the words of individuals who will also belong to other varying 'subcultures' . What this group is abou… | /r/MensRights | 14/10/20 08:43 PM |
| 5 | opinions on this? I found the whole concept of this 'gender awareness quiz' somewhat offensive (explanation in comments)Yeh the quiz was laughable. Basically if you pick the 'worst' answer you are correct. It's not a quiz, its propaganda. Cherry picked stats that only address womens issues and then say look how unequal the world is! UN at its finest. To be fair its then UN womens page so you kinda expect it, the issue is that there isnt a mens page. Searching the UN website the only references to men that I could find were their role in removing gender inequality that women face. | /r/MensRights | 14/10/20 01:37 PM |
| 25 | What are your thoughts on this thread?It basically sums up how stupid society has become that we can't appreciate nuance anymore. Yes there are areas where men face discrimination/ statistically are worse off. Yes there are areas where women face discrimination/ statistically are worse off. We dont have to view it as black and white one gender has it better the other has it worse. We dont need a 'goodie' and a 'baddie'. The issues are complex and often interrelated. Any truly meaningful attempt at change has to recognise that. But i… | /r/MensRights | 13/10/20 06:16 PM |
| 4 | Not 100% sure it fits here but I figured this is the best place. Original question was “is a relationship between a 19 year old and a 16 year old bad?” I hate that this is the way things are.I'm in the UK and the age of consent is 16. Legally speaking there is no issue with a relationship between a 19 and 16 year old regardless of genders involved. ( unless you have potential abuse of power - teacher/ student etc.) | /r/MensRights | 12/10/20 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill Effects That Changed My Perspective on Modern Dating: MGTOW is the WayI'm not too keen on the MGTOW posts creeping in here. By all means, you do you and if that means no dating then good luck to you. But the fact is there are many women out there who dont have the standards you complain about. Many of my closest friends are women. Yeh there is a double standard in dating, please dont take that as a reason to avoid women you are missing out on a lot (platonically or sexually) if you do so. | /r/MensRights | 12/10/20 08:15 PM |
| 6 | Erin Pizzey (founded 1st ever womens shelter) reveals feminist fraud in Domestic Violence e.g. 100% of white ribbon fundraising goes to fund feminist's salaries 0% goes to Domestic Violence victims.Really good video to watch. People like her will slowly produce change for the good. | /r/MensRights | 12/10/20 08:07 PM |
| 10 | New to this subWelcome. I hope this doesnt sound rude, but I always think trans people can offer a unique insight into sexism / gender roles by virtue of having to some extent lived on both sides of the fence. When you say both genders have their problems, that's the key point for me. There are situations where it is 'beneficial' to be male or female. We dont have to conclude a certain gender has it better or worse, just recognise where discrimination exists in either case and attempt to reduce that. Focusing … | /r/MensRights | 12/10/20 08:01 PM |
| 8 | So,I have a cousin sister who refuses to listen to my MR argumentsfix the gender ratio not being 1:1 we need to abort all men that are being born until the ratio is fixed" That's a new one on me.. China and 1 child policy repercussions aside, isnt most of the world marginally more female than male? | /r/MensRights | 10/10/20 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.Dude. I give up. Not out of lack of arguments but lack of caring. This conversation is clearly going nowhere, you disagree with my approach I disagree with yours. You want to keep on thinking someone being civil is them being a 'nice guy' and warrants criticism, ok have fun with that. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 02:38 PM |
| 0 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.Oh no, I responded with a sarcastic response... Yeh it's not the end of the world. Neither is it productive. Dont complain next time a feminist is sarcastic to you. I doubt that Why? Why is it hard to imagine that I would respond to a wall of text from someone I will never meet the same way regardless of their superficial appearance? You see m'lady? I'm not like any of those barbarians that attack you unconditionally, I'm nIcE because I apologize for them". I really dont give a shit if internet … | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 01:36 PM |
| 0 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.It's not the responding, it's how you respond. You think your sarcastic comment was a better response? You started your comment by apologizing for the negative comments that might hurt m'lady here, that alone makes you look like you care more about her gender rather than her content. You are assuming that I said that based on her gender, I would have said the same thing if OP was a Male feminist here asking questions. .I apologised for the negative comments because I want people to feel able to … | /r/MensRights | 09/10/20 10:59 AM |
| -1 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.I do apologise for the negative comments, not on your behalf but on mine. As a member of this sub, there is some level of guilt by association with the more toxic elements of this sub. I dont want anyone to be discouraged from asking questions because they are met with insults. If I made a post on a trans sub asking genuine questions and had people insult me and say I was seeking attention, it's not going to help my view on trans issues. Same point here. I ask you, in what way was your inital co… | /r/MensRights | 08/10/20 11:03 PM |
| 0 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.Calm down mate. I want to have proper discussions with people regardless of their gender. If you want to have a genuine conversation about why you think it's being a simp to respond to a question from a feminist with a sincere answer instead of sarcasm, I'm all ears. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/20 10:40 PM |
| 0 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.First of all apologies for the few negative comments. Please note they are the minority. The most interesting issue I think that feminists could discuss when it comes to mens rights is the institutional lack of support for men compared to women. There are many examples, but the clearest statistical one I can think of is that in the UK roughly 33% of victims of domestic violence are male yet less than 5% of domestic violence funding goes to men. I am sure some will just blame 'the patriarchy' , b… | /r/MensRights | 08/10/20 09:46 PM |
| -1 | Hello! I’m a feminist joining the subreddit just to see some of the issues you all are being up.Yeh because that's the perfect way to encourage conversation. Fucks sake man. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/20 09:38 PM |
| 17 | Female prisoners to get backpacks on release under pilot programI know a women who only recently came out of prison and is engaged to a man who was also recently in prison. She says herself the difference in their treatment was ridiculous. Apparently most of the women in her prison spent about 1/3 of the time out on day release for visiting family or friends or work programmes etc. She had every weekend off, 3 days out of prison to visit family ( not kids, not people she cared for, just 'rebuilding relationships' ) Her partner and his fellow Male prisoners h… | /r/MensRights | 08/10/20 01:23 PM |
| 3 | Questions from a newcomer on MRA1) No idea. I'm sure there was some kind of survey done a while ago. It's more men, but plenty of women involved. 2) I dont think its accurate to paint abortion as a feminist issue. You can be pro abortion and anti feminist. The wage gap is largely derided on this sub because it is based on cherry picking stats and doesnt reflect reality. 3) Mostly anti male language in the media, the massive gap in funding for male charities/ causes vs female charities/ causes (domestic violence, homelessness, … | /r/MensRights | 08/10/20 01:13 PM |
| 6 | Funny question: If a man flirted with you, how would you react?Have had many men flirt with me. In every instance as soon as I identified this has gone from friendly conversation to you want something out of this, I politely said something along the lines of sorry man I'm not gay you are wasting your time. Most are fine with it. I did have one guy get annoyed because I 'was so nice about letting him down it makes it even worse'. Not a big deal, homosexual men exist I'm flattered some find me attractive enough to take a shot. | /r/MensRights | 07/10/20 08:18 PM |
| 9 | I haven't posted in a while about men's rights, cause I fear.It doesnt matter what movement you support, your health comes first. If you feel defending mens rights is putting a strain on your relationship, health or career then for the love of god put yourself first and tone it down. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/20 11:13 PM |
| 2 | Male test scores have lagged behind female since the 80s in the UKYeh I like all of what you said. Makes perfect sense to randomize everything. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/20 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Would you count being kicked in tha nuts as sexual assault?Yeh I agree either both or neither should be considered sexual assault. Or not. There shouldnt be a double standard. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Would you count being kicked in tha nuts as sexual assault?I get the point and it is valid. . I completely agree that kicking a man in the balls and causing lasting physical damage is a worse crime than touching a girls boobs and causing no long term physical damage. Its whether we define assault by consequence or intention. The law is a bit of a funny mix of both on this and often gets it wrong. I'm not a fan of any of this being categorised sexual assault, its physical battery. But where you draw the line between sexual and physical assault is an abso… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Would you count being kicked in tha nuts as sexual assault?I am not defending anyone kicking you in the balls, the same way you aren't condoning people pinching vaginas... There is an ambiguity about what constitutes sexual assault as opposed to physical assault. It's an issue which is impossibly hard to legislate properly. Both situations equate to physical assault. What makes it sexual assault is very hard to define. Please dont refer to women as 'one of these bitches', how is that conducive to a rational discussion? | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 11:30 PM |
| 2 | Would you count being kicked in tha nuts as sexual assault?Fucking hell man. Come on I like this sub and dont want to see it be targeted or removed because of bullshit comments like this. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 11:03 PM |
| 2 | Male test scores have lagged behind female since the 80s in the UKInteresting points. I fundamentally believe that positive or negative treatment works both ways in terms of consequence, your first point highlight the pros and cons of certain treatment. How long have you been teaching? Have you seen a change in what you mentioned over the years? Both on the behaviour of teachers and behaviour of students? | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 10:59 PM |
| 2 | Would you count being kicked in tha nuts as sexual assault?Look I get it is tenuous what changes assault to sexual assault. You can view it as just what part of the body is touched but let's be honest that doesnt work, a woman could sexually assault me by touching my chest. The manner and motive is what defines it, which is problematic in itself as it's hard to define. I'm not defending someone kicking a guy in the balls, I am saying that shouldnt necessarily be classified as sexual assault. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 10:51 PM |
| 2 | Hello to everyone,I am supposed to prepare an answer to this issue for one of my classes,I'd appreciate your helpYeh he is right that a certain level of self sacrifice/ selflessness is required for social order. This is hardly a revelation. The interesting part is not selflessness, it is the sacrifice of individual rights. Why and when should one individuals rights trump anothers? That is a conversation worth having. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 07:40 PM |
| 3 | Hello to everyone,I am supposed to prepare an answer to this issue for one of my classes,I'd appreciate your helpTo an extent your professor is right. When people assert contradictory rights, there has to be conflict as not everyone can get what they want. I would more ask does your professor want a society without conflict? It sounds nice, but by their own logic requires a sacrifice of personal liberty and autonomy which many would argue is not worth it. With you whole wife/ husband example. Your society may view those things as rights, others wouldn't. The conflict is as much between different views of s… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Would you count being kicked in tha nuts as sexual assault?Its assault. Its assault of a sexual organ. That does not make it sexual assault. I dont think being punched on the boob is sexual assault. But being groped on the boob is, even though it's less physically violent. Sexual assault should imo be reserved for sexually motivated acts of assault. If I kick a guy in the balls it wasnt sexual assault it was just assault. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 07:19 PM |
| 3 | Male test scores have lagged behind female since the 80s in the UKDo you think the overall trend of increasing scores is a result of better education, lower standards, bit of both? As a teacher, do you have any experience that might explain the gap? Is it marking, ability, effort etc..? | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 07:14 PM |
| 3 | How harmful is mgm?What do you mean by improves sexual function? | /r/MensRights | 04/10/20 07:12 PM |
| 3 | Please tell this to feminists who do not understandnoun the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes. This is the point, it's a biased movement that pretends to be about equality. 'The advocacy for womens rights' yeh fine no problem with anyone doing that there are many issues women face. 'on the ground of the equality of the sexes.' But this justification is a problem. If you are only promoting womens rights you arent promoting equality of the sexes, you are promoting one of the sexes. | /r/MensRights | 29/09/20 10:48 AM |
| 1 | Is there a reason for this?There isnt 'a' reason for anything. Social issues are complex and always have multiple factors at play. For example the majority of the violent crime you are referring to is committed by low income individuals. There are more homeless and/or drug addicted men than women, the less rewarded you are by society the more likely you are to commit crime. The more desperate you are the more likely you are to commit crime. I have lived and worked with recovering addicts. As a broad generalisation more me… | /r/MensRights | 29/09/20 10:40 AM |
| 2 | Looking for some sources or a Source repostryOh yeh im not denying there is some male support on there, it just pales in significance compared to the amount of female victim support offered. I have too much time on my hands right now so responded to their feedback asking why they have a section for potential male abusers and not a section for potential female abusers. It gives the option of leaving your email for a response, will be interesting to see what kind of response I get. | /r/MensRights | 28/09/20 06:01 PM |
| 4 | Looking for some sources or a Source repostryGo to the UK office of national statistics website . There is a huge amount of data there. Some points to make "In the year ending March 2019, an estimated 2.4 million adults aged 16 to 74 years experienced domestic abuse in the last year (1.6 million women and 786,000 men)." It is roughly a 1/3 men 2/3 women split on recorded crimes. Obviously doesn't include unreported crime, or reported events that the police dont classify as criminal. In spite of men being 1/3 of recorded victims, have a loo… | /r/MensRights | 28/09/20 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Are more men refusing to be blamed for breakups? Have any of you guys “won” the battle?I think this works both ways. I have known the same woman cheat with a man and say ah well it's his girlfriends fault for not noticing not my problem, then be cheated on and be outraged and call the girl he cheated on her with a slut etc. With no sense of irony. Also known men who cheated and then get upset when they are cheated on, somehow ignoring the hypocrisy. Basically, most humans are narcissistic people who ignore their own sins and criticise others for doing the same fucking thing they d… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/20 10:30 PM |
| 3 | Laws against "misogyny"Hate crime in general is just a ridiculous notion. I dont see why an assumed motivation for crime should significantly impact the sentence. If I assault someone their gender and race shouldnt be a factor in my sentence. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/20 06:13 PM |
| 2 | What was your worst experience of misandry at work?Yeh had similar to that. As an estate agent had an area training session where the female manager running it spoke about professional appearance. She said while I dont like beards I will tolerate them as long as they are a proper beard. Really you should all be clean shaven. What I wont accept is stubble, if you are clean shaven shave every day. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/20 12:21 PM |
| 7 | What projects are out there that address men's social isolation?I dont have any data to back this up but would suggest that projects which involve some kind of physical labour and some kind of net reward would be worth looking into. I was in a dry house and a scheme they saw some success with was beekeeping - you spend time building their homes, plenty of opportunity to chat while you do so only takes a few hours a week and the net result is some lovely honey for you all. Can even sell the surplus to help with costs. Same works with low level farming. Spend … | /r/MensRights | 17/09/20 12:32 AM |
| 3 | united is better (let's join feminism and men's rights)I love the sentiment, but it is not practical. I have said before on here that in my opinion the primary distinction between feminism and MRA is not their stated goal of gender equality, in that they are in agreement. The distinction lies in the explanation for gender inequality and the solution to it. Feminism blames gender inequality on a false description of society as being a patriarchy, uses sexist terminology to place the blame onto solely men and proposes a solution of dismantling a patri… | /r/MensRights | 16/09/20 11:46 PM |
| 0 | Women in the men's clothing section.Honestly yes I have done. | /r/MensRights | 16/09/20 07:00 PM |
| 10 | Women in the men's clothing section.This is madness. The mens clothing section is not a safe space for men, it is a public shopping area. What so if I go to the womens clothing section to buy something as a present for a woman I am invading their space? Grow up this is not an issue. | /r/MensRights | 16/09/20 10:06 AM |
| 5 | As a Man, how can one stop rape culture?Interesting question. I don't know if you can call it rape culture or a culture where rape happens? To add insult to injury, victims of rape crimes are publicly shamed .... the CCPO of Lahore complained that the women should not have been allowed outside of her house This is the part that most concerns me and probably a key thing to change. When victims of rape are presented as shameful and deserving it, that kind of condones raping them. If it shifts to sympathising with them and condemning the… | /r/MensRights | 14/09/20 10:49 AM |
| 1 | Why our societal conception of "nudity=>sex" is a big problemI'm not really sure what the point you are trying to make is. I could go into your post but dont see any benefit to me or this sub in doing so. | /r/MensRights | 14/09/20 02:33 AM |
| 2 | Why our societal conception of "nudity=>sex" is a big problemI fundamentally disagree. I have had female friends get changed in front of me, I did not take that as ah she wants to have sex with me. Quite the opposite, they were comfortable enough in me not seeing them as a sexual object to do so. I would not attempt to judge a girls relationship status by the length of her skirt. People dress how they are comfortable. Do you go to the beach and think wow all these girls in bikinis must be single and want sex? Dude this is just stupid. Yes girls sometimes … | /r/MensRights | 14/09/20 01:43 AM |
| 1 | I just stumbled across this delightful article. A female reporter has published a series of interviews with mothers who are devastated and struggle to cope with sharing 50/50 custody. The bias is real.I wish I could give a better reply than that sucks, but I cant. Keep strong mate. | /r/MensRights | 14/09/20 01:31 AM |
| 7 | How many of you used to identify as a feminist?I was raised by a single mum who constantly told me how bad men were and that I needed to look after my sister. I was raised to be aware of female issues so considered myself a feminist, it took living as a man to become aware of male issues and realise feminism is not the solution to eithers problems. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/20 11:37 PM |
| 8 | I just stumbled across this delightful article. A female reporter has published a series of interviews with mothers who are devastated and struggle to cope with sharing 50/50 custody. The bias is real.I'm very sorry to hear that. It doesnt help your current situation but all I can say is that things can and hopefully will improve. I moved in with my dad at 16 and by living with him encouraged my siblings to also build a relationship with him. He is now heavily involved in all our lives. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/20 10:00 PM |
| 24 | I just stumbled across this delightful article. A female reporter has published a series of interviews with mothers who are devastated and struggle to cope with sharing 50/50 custody. The bias is real.This is madness. Imagine an article about the 'traumas faced' by fathers for having 50/50 custody. My dad would have loved to have even 30% custody, it was deeply upsetting for him to only be able to see us 4 days of a month. And upsetting for me to see him so rarely. This article is complaining about equality and presenting equality as being unfair on women. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/20 09:01 PM |
| 9 | I'm so curious to know if anything happened beforeVote manipulating or brigading is not a good response. You cant change the mind of someone who thinks you are oppressive by being oppressive. You would only confirm what they believe. All I see that I can do is have reasonable conversation with those who will talk reasonably and ignore the idiocy of those who wont. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/20 12:26 PM |
| 7 | Is this a topic where you're never gonna change anyone's mind?You cannot force your opinions on anyone. You can and should express them. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/20 12:23 PM |
| 101 | Bathroom inequality at my university campus means it can be impossible for men to use the bathroom at all.I would try and make the argument that either both or neither bathrooms should be gender neutral. The current set up has a women only bathroom, and an everyone bathroom. If there is a requirement for a women only bathroom there should be a requirement for a men only bathroom. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/20 10:34 PM |
| 5 | Can women be part of the men's right movement?if women shout about inequality to women, it won't be heard as much. Men need to support womans rights and stand side by side to stop the inequality. On the other hand if men shout about male inequality, people won't listen as much. But if women stand with men and shout for mens rights with them. That would be heard more. First of all, welcome. The point you make above is very true. I recognise that women face a lot of discrimination in certain parts of life and am of course against that, men al… | /r/MensRights | 11/09/20 01:40 PM |
| 1 | How popular is "kill all men" among young people?My point was that he cant complain about misandry while being misogynistic. Both things are avoidable. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/20 01:24 PM |
| -3 | How popular is "kill all men" among young people?If my words on Twitter hurt misandrists feelings, it adds to fun. If my words on Twitter hurt misogynists feelings, it adds to fun. What is the difference. I like to think this sub tries to be better than feminism not copy its worst traits. Stop being an idiot. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/20 12:01 AM |
| 2 | How popular is "kill all men" among young people?Ok then ignore feminists wishing you ill. If you think their words cause damage, so do yours. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/20 11:55 PM |
| -5 | How popular is "kill all men" among young people?Why on earth do you care about Twitter accounts. Wishing cancer on people is an obviously shitty thing to do, I am glad you were called out on it. I'm not condoning the phrase kill all men, it is misandrist. It is also fair to say that 99% of the time it is said it is not a serious statement of intent but a hyperbolic expression of annoyance. The phrase should not be used, but is not to be taken seriously. Did you really want misandrists to get cancer?! | /r/MensRights | 10/09/20 11:52 PM |
| -9 | How popular is "kill all men" among young people?It's an expression of frustration not a declaration of war. I doubt any more than 1% - if that - of feminists genuinely want to kill all or indeed any men. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/20 11:29 PM |
| 0 | UK Feminists Score Victory Over Falsely Accused MenThis isnt a victory over falsely accused men come on. The article is written in a gendered nature, but the change in legislation seems to be that police can only request relevant evidence not just everything on your phone. That's a good thing. Sure one party will only provide evidence that benefits their case and omit evidence that harms it. But if it is communication between 2 people the other side will be able to provide the evidence they omit. Personally have no problem with this change in th… | /r/MensRights | 10/09/20 11:25 PM |
| 4 | Writing from the male perspectiveI would focus on the social conditioning. When my twin sister and I went to a party my mum would tell her to enjoy herself and me to look after her. I wasnt to enjoy myself, I had to remain responsible for someone the same age as me. When my sister had her first period my mum made me congratulate her and celebrated her 'becoming a woman.' When I had my first wet dream it was a non event because male sexuality is bad and becoming a man is not a good thing. I was taught not to rape on the assumpti… | /r/MensRights | 10/09/20 02:40 PM |
| 10 | Do you think, given opportunity, feminists will "kill all men"?No. It's a rhetoric not an actual action plan. They will encourage policies that make life harder for men and this will indirectly result in male deaths, we are not going to see a mass genocide. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/20 12:54 PM |
| 1 | I'm young and scared.Chill out. It's an incredibly unlikely occurrence that you probably will never have to deal with. I don't know that stats but am sure there is stuff like being hit by a car etc. that are more likely than a false accusation. You cant live your life in fear of what might happen, you can only live your life and deal with what comes up. | /r/MensRights | 09/09/20 01:57 AM |
| 2 | Just a questionDevolved feudalistic society is what I consider accurate, but also a bit of a mouthful! I would just say society or historical roles. Bit vague but it doesnt imply any specific group is to blame. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/20 01:05 PM |
| 6 | Just a questionI accept the gist of that. But the moment you define womens issues as being the consequence of patriarchy you are placing the blame onto men. If you say not all men but some, this proves my point that it isnt about gender but social privilege. I am willing to say women have in many ways faced more oppression than men. I am not willing to blame men for that or reduce what should be a conversation about social mobility to a conversation about gender. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/20 01:35 AM |
| 11 | Just a questionYes but symptoms is not a definition. Societies all contain inequalities, that doesnt mean I would define them by those inequalities. The point I am getting at it yes society is inequal. Yes at times that inequality works against women. There are also times that inequality works against men. To define those inequalities as being the result of the rule of men is not only historically inaccurate but also places the blame for it onto men. This is simply not true. You mentioned in another comment ab… | /r/MensRights | 08/09/20 01:20 AM |
| 10 | Just a questionMy view of social progression in western society is from feudalism to democracy. Do I think feudalism had some patriachal elements, yes. Do I think it is accurate to describe feudalism as a patriarchy, no. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/20 12:53 AM |
| 12 | Just a questionPatriarchy is a false description of society that I will not accept as a reason for the disadvantages men or women face. Our society has progressed from one which focused on manual labour, had shockingly high child mortality, low life expectancy and no contraception to one which has primarily mental not physical labour, low infant mortality, high life expectancy and widely available contraception. This relatively sudden change has challenged traditional gender roles which previously made sense g… | /r/MensRights | 08/09/20 12:42 AM |
| 2 | Apparently men's rights would not consider the man in this video to be disgusting. I don't believe it, let's prove them wrong!Agreed. I'm not trying to defend the guy. | /r/MensRights | 07/09/20 09:50 PM |
| 4 | Apparently men's rights would not consider the man in this video to be disgusting. I don't believe it, let's prove them wrong!My first thought is it seems a bit staged and you posting this is possibly a bit dishonest/baity, but let's give the benefit of the doubt and assume it is real and you are sincere. I respect that women experience being 'hit on' and this can often feel uncomfortable. I have had women hit on me and sometimes found it uncomfortable. The guy is not flirting he is being crude. Yes the girl could be more assertive in telling him to fuck off, but the point is more that the man should be better at recog… | /r/MensRights | 07/09/20 09:27 PM |
| 6 | True thoughMods your opinion on this? I like this sub but personally dont see how content like this is in any way productive. | /r/MensRights | 07/09/20 09:05 PM |
| 98 | The official United Nations account just posted this ...People like to talk about institutional patriarchy. At what stage will they admit there is institutional feminism, which blames societies ills on patriarchy and therefore on men. Institutional misandry. I honestly think comments like this are opening peoples eyes to the sheer ludricosy of the situation. | /r/MensRights | 07/09/20 08:40 PM |
| 1 | False representation, patriarchy, and rape?through society as a whole, men have more power It depends what society you are talking about and what you define as power, but either way when she says the fact that society as an average favors the man, having situations where men are not in a position of power is acceptable. That's nonsense. We should ignore discrimination if a group has advantages in other areas? Inequality is inequality and should be challenged in any scenario. choose between having all the guilty rapists who went unpunishe… | /r/MensRights | 07/09/20 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Common argument I’ve heard to discredit the MRM is that we only care about little things like having to pay the bill on dates, cheating, and being rejected by women. Do you guys think those are actual issues?Do I think they are minor issues in that they reflect the inequal sex value of genders, yes. Not at all all we care about. This is like asking feminists people try to discredit you by saying you only focus on little things like free the nipple and more female leads in movies, do you think those are actual issues? I imagine their answers would mostly be yes, it's part of a broader problem but we have way bigger concerns. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/20 08:56 AM |
| 3 | Men account for 85% of suicides but when suicidal ideation is shown in media, it’s overwhelmingly women.I hate dismissing someone attempting suicide as trying to get attention like that means it's not an issue. My concern in that case is why are they so low that they feel the need to take such a drastic measure just for attention. Had a friend attempt suicide and some people try to dismiss it as her seeking attention, my response was if she needs attention and support right now then I'm going to give it to her. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/20 08:47 AM |
| 3 | Men’s feelings?I am fortunate that I have a few good male friends who have had there own mental health issues so are very empathetic when talking with me about mine. If your feelings are related to a particular subject there are various support groups out there (drinking/gambling/sex/custody etc) which you might find helpful as everyone is in the same boat. If your partner doesn't want to talk about your feelings they arent a partner they are a fuck buddy. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/20 08:27 AM |
| 2 | How can I get involvedIt saddens me how negative / defeatist the responses to your post are. On a basic level, conversing with people and explaining the problems you see/experience is a start. On a practical level, I am sure you can find homeless shelters to volunteer at nearby. Given the homeless population is majority male you will be helping men. Just talk, most of the homeless I meet are incredibly lonely. There are male groups that physically meet if you want to be involved. My dad was an active participant in f… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/20 11:32 PM |
| 6 | More and More Netflix Series where we are going to see forced and unnecessary Female Leads.100% support this comment. There is nothing 'unnecessary'about a female lead. There is nothing 'unnecessary' about a male lead. It's just a lead actor, I dont give a shit about their gender I care about how entertaining the show is. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/20 11:22 PM |
| 6 | But why,Why would you do that.A girl I know was cheating on her boyfriend and justified it that if he cared about me he would notice I was cheating. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/20 07:47 PM |
| 2 | Can someone explain this to me?Your comment sounds reasonable. As I say you have to ask the mods of those subs why the posts are deleted... are those mods predominantly male? Probably, given that reddit itself is mostly male. Its impossible to answer without the context of each individual post that was or wasnt removed. There may well be some gender bias, that men who are told they are incompetent caregivers enjoy seeing a caring man more than a caring woman and so encourage that content. To some degree when you talk about ge… | /r/MensRights | 03/09/20 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Can someone explain this to me?I couldn't find your post in your history to look at how you worded it, the response and amount of downvotes. I cannot speak for every person on this sub, we all have different views. Personally I never down vote in this sub, discussion should be encouraged even if I disagree with the points being made. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/20 09:17 PM |
| 1 | This. What’s haunting most feminists isn’t that men don’t want women to be equal, which they know is not true, it’s that most feminists want more for women only.I havent as dont want to tarnish this sub with accusations of brigading, but god I want to discuss the top level comment on there with its poster who seems to be a mod. It says: While feminism seeks to dismantle norms that hurt all genders, and to bring women up to equal, it is not for and about men’s issues. So if it doesnt acknowledge mens issues then it is not trying to change things that hurt all genders. Gender stereotypes exist. In X scenario those stereotypes benefit men. In Y scenario th… | /r/MensRights | 03/09/20 09:01 PM |
| 4 | Can someone explain this to me?You would have to ask the moderators of those subs why certain videos are being removed. That being said, no reddit is not 'reflective of culture in general' . It has a demographic that skews male, much like youtube does. Obviously this varies from subreddit to subreddit, I have no idea of the demographics of the subs you mentioned. I cant really answer your questions as there isnt any data available to provide a response that isnt just my subjective opinion. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/20 08:49 PM |
| 6 | Example of one of the reasons why the “pay gap” isn’t realI will never forget a girl I worked with asking our area manager to cover her appointments because of period pain. At the time I had a broken foot and was still hobbling to appointments. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/20 01:32 PM |
| 7 | A reminder how much work we still have to go...To me this is a funny harmless joke. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/20 09:14 PM |
| 8 | Something I just thought of: If trans-women have penises...Women could always technically commit rape by using a dildo etc. That a trans woman has a penis just gives them another tool to 'rape' with. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/20 08:45 PM |
| 3 | Our emotions matterNo thanks for a long response love it when people are thorough, fair warning this is a longer reply! Also sorry just coming back to you had to sleep! I would argue that mothers do not control parenting. They judge and police the fathers parenting. My friend just had a baby, both are new parents both are at home and the mum criticises his parenting. Mums tend to think they know how to care for the child better than Dad. I know I have seen studies on this but cant find any so this will have to do … | /r/MensRights | 02/09/20 01:34 PM |
| 3 | Our emotions matterThe US is a slightly different perspective to myself in the UK but same principles. The literal definition of patriarchy is rule by fathers. The common definition of it is a society where men have social privilege. Neither is true. Mothers control parenting. The education system is dominated by female teachers, teaches in a system that benefits female students, grades female students preferentially and results in more females entering higher education. There are more female voters than male, lar… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/20 02:01 AM |
| 6 | Our emotions matterI'm not going to downvote, dont like doing that. First of all you have taken gender stereotypes and labelled that patriarchy, different things. We do not live in a patriachal society so no the OP should not tell her lies. The concept that anger is an acceptable emotion is laughable. The concept that vulnerability is embarrassing is sadly true. Feminists dont think it's ok for men to express their emotions, they think that they should express their emotions in a female way and only if those emoti… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/20 12:23 AM |
| 1 | I'm being discriminated because I'm a man, help?I know toddlers are a pain in the arse at times. But you arent being discriminated against for being a man. Your female neighbour has had social security called for screaming at her kids, you have had complaints for shouting at your kid. All you can 'do' is try to communicate with your son without losing your temper and shouting. It clearly doesnt work and is causing you other problems. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/20 12:06 AM |
| 18 | Is having more female restroom cubicles unfair or justified?In terms of old buildings, it's hard to change due to space limitations. In terms of new buildings, yeh its justified. Women need to sit down to piss (not biologically, but practically - you know what I mean) men dont. If we assume 75% of toilet visits are to piss, women need more cubicles than men. That this means womens restrooms need to be larger than mens to accommodate more cubicles, fine by me. However I would also add that as a man I would prefer if mens restrooms were given the same trea… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/20 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Today, I was confronted by a security guard for helping a child find her mother.Sorry you experienced that, I have similar experiences. I wouldnt count on feminism ever being about actual equality , its had years to show that and routinely shown the opposite. All we can do is highlight inequality. Over the last 5 years it seems some progress has been made in awareness if not action. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/20 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Today, I was confronted by a security guard for helping a child find her mother.I agree that is the message sent, but not a message I have to listen to. If your friends baby was at risk and you could risk yourself to save it, would you really do nothing? | /r/MensRights | 31/08/20 04:14 PM |
| 2 | Today, I was confronted by a security guard for helping a child find her mother.I'm not fine with it. I have a natural instinct to help a child if they need help. That instinct is a hard wired product of centuries of evolving as a social creature. My friend just had a little boy, I would happily put my life and safety at risk for that little boy. Without hesitation. That instinct doesnt change because of how well I know the child, the instinct is because they are a child. It annoys me that society has taught me to hesitate lest someone judges my intentions because of my app… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/20 04:10 PM |
| 2 | Why is everyone on this sub suddenly a Feminist?I'm not a feminist as believe patriarchy is a misdiscreption of society and that a lot of feminist laws introduced are simply anti men and anti equality. I am perfectly happy to acknowledge there are times where women face discrimination/ statistically do worse. Just like men face the same. To pretend it only happens to one gender is unproductive. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/20 12:31 PM |
| 3 | Today, I was confronted by a security guard for helping a child find her mother.England. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/20 04:14 AM |
| 1 | Any suggestions for arguments from MRAs who disagree with the community about a particular issue?Interesting read and something I missed. As I say dont claim to be an expert, participating in forums like this is all about education so thank you for educating me. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/20 04:14 AM |
| 1 | Any suggestions for arguments from MRAs who disagree with the community about a particular issue?I am not and have no wish to be an expert. My point was just that the worst kind of a is to my mind worse than the worst kind of b. Edit: reading my first comment, the phrase most common forms practiced is apparently wrong from what you say. My bad | /r/MensRights | 31/08/20 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Any suggestions for arguments from MRAs who disagree with the community about a particular issue?Yeh I was talking in terms of 'full' FGM. In western society FGM is illegal and MGM is legal, that's an issue. I have had a grown man crying to me recounting being forcibly circumcised when he was 11 or so. Its horrific. I still maintain that with the worst versions of both, FGM is worse. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/20 12:01 AM |
| 5 | Do you support gay relationships?They are being counted, you just arent getting the results you wanted to discredit this sub. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/20 11:54 PM |
| 3 | Any suggestions for arguments from MRAs who disagree with the community about a particular issue?This is a weird post but ok if you want an example I will be one. I am against male circumcision. However I believe female circumcision is worse in the damage caused and not an equal comparison. If I had a son and a daughter and one had to be circumcised, I would choose the son. Not because of male disposablity or anything like that, because I think having you foreskin cut off is not as bad as having your clitoris cut off and your vaginal canal sown up. Neither should happen, but FGM is to my mi… | /r/MensRights | 30/08/20 11:41 PM |
| 22 | Today, I was confronted by a security guard for helping a child find her mother.I have to stress these are exceptions not the rule and you did the right thing in taking the child to customer services. In the same situation I would hope you do the same thing again regardless of perception. There are shitty people in the world who will project their shittiness onto strangers. Doesnt mean you shouldnt do the right thing, just that unfortunately you are more likely to be judged for helping a child if you look like a man. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/20 09:21 PM |
| 32 | Fathers are importantWho sees a wholesome post about a Dad going to incredible lengths to make their child happy and thinks ah I better point out not all dads are like that and some daughters are selfish too. We know there are shitty people of all ages and genders. Dont need to hear it every time someone does a good thing. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/20 08:25 PM |
| 237 | Today, I was confronted by a security guard for helping a child find her mother.Yup not surprising. My Dad found a lost young boy in a crowded public space crying because he was lost, similar age to me at the time. Bought him an ice cream to cheer him up and put him on a table to make him as visible as possible. The mum eventually saw him came over and instead of thanking him threatened to call the police. This was a good 20 years ago. 10 years ago I was eating my lunch on a bench in a shopping centre, little kid sat down next to me and started talking. I asked where their … | /r/MensRights | 30/08/20 08:20 PM |
| 6 | Could it be that it's because women are doing so much better than men?They dont want an answer. Asking feminists why people believe in misandry is like me asking a liberal sub why do people like trump. If I wanted a valid answer I would ask trump supporters, if I want my own dislike of trump validated I will ask people who dislike him. | /r/MensRights | 28/08/20 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Is nobody going to talk about new male drivers paying higher insurance rates than their female counterpartsYeh I cant argue with any of that really. Having some allowed forms of discrimination and not others is not ok. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/20 01:53 PM |
| 2 | Is nobody going to talk about new male drivers paying higher insurance rates than their female counterparts1) I'm a man. 2) that is not what I have said or believe. I said insurance companies should be able to assess risk and if age/sex/race etc. is a factor then that's fine by me. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/20 01:33 PM |
| 0 | Is nobody going to talk about new male drivers paying higher insurance rates than their female counterpartsYou arent lumped in with an 18 year old , your premiums will definitely be less because they also factor in your age. I'm not saying it's perfect, I dont work in insurance so dont know how they assess risk. Does changing 58 year old man to 58 year old women up your premiums because 58 year old men are greater risk or because men are greater risks and they then make your age a separate factor? I have no idea how sophisticated the modelling is and it's of course not going to be 100% accurate. How … | /r/MensRights | 24/08/20 01:05 PM |
| 0 | Is nobody going to talk about new male drivers paying higher insurance rates than their female counterpartsOk valid points. I have said in other comments my stance is that insurance companies should be able to discriminate so they should also be able to do so when it comes to life insurance or retirement plans. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/20 12:56 PM |
| 1 | Is nobody going to talk about new male drivers paying higher insurance rates than their female counterpartsAgreed. I think all insurance should be discriminatory or none at all. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/20 04:52 AM |
| 1 | Is nobody going to talk about new male drivers paying higher insurance rates than their female counterpartsObviously that has to be then compared to diseases white people are more susceptible to. If the balance of outcome is that insuring a black person is more expensive than insuring a white person, I have no problem with charging the black person more. Insurance isnt social security, it is risk assessment and balancing potential cost of risk against likelihood of risk. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/20 04:38 AM |
| 0 | Is nobody going to talk about new male drivers paying higher insurance rates than their female counterpartsFair point. The difference is that social security is not a private business like insurance is. It's not about a return on investment in the same way. It is implicit in social welfare that some people benefit more than others. I required 4 different eye operations as a minor which the state funded, should I have to pay more back for that? Should my children pay more as they are more likely to have similar issues? I agree the social benefit system favours some over others. I dont think the social… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/20 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Is nobody going to talk about new male drivers paying higher insurance rates than their female counterpartsIn my opinion yes they should be able to. Legally, I dont know. To my mind an insurer can discriminate on age/sex/race/ lifestyle and whatever else. It is their job to categorise and discriminate accordingly. The alternatives are either to say treat every person/ risk the same, or to say you can only discriminate when we consider discrimination appropriate which screws the maths. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/20 04:22 AM |
| 3 | Is nobody going to talk about new male drivers paying higher insurance rates than their female counterpartsProfiling is ok when the nature of your business is to profile and assess risk based upon that profile. We can agree that profiling shouldn't happen and you are happy to pay the same medical insurance as me despite me being an alcoholic smoker. If my profile makes me more at risk, more expensive and you dont like the idea of paying higher insurance to compensate for my high risk profile , the insurer needs to discriminate. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/20 02:35 AM |
| 10 | What classes as abuse from a women?Abuse is , or should be, the same regardless of the genders involved. If you feel you might have been abused, ask yourself if you did whatever it was to someone else would you consider it abuse. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/20 01:24 AM |
| 2 | Is nobody going to talk about new male drivers paying higher insurance rates than their female counterpartsSorry I dont get your point? Insurers do discriminate when it comes to healthcare. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/20 01:22 AM |
| 13 | Is nobody going to talk about new male drivers paying higher insurance rates than their female counterpartsThis is a tricky one. The fundamentals of insurance is built upon assessing risk. The only way to do that is to discriminate. Is it wrong to pay more insurance for not having a garage? For living in a certain postcode? For being 20 not 40? Insurers have to be allowed to discriminate, how else can they assess risk? | /r/MensRights | 24/08/20 01:09 AM |
| 5 | Where to start?It's one of those we are both right and both wrong situations. I fully accept that in situations ( like your job) there are power structures which both benefit and are controlled by men. I don't believe that is evidence of a patriachal society, so much as a patriachal workplace. I could respond with industries dominated and controlled by women. Doesnt mean we live in a matriachy. It just means that both men and women face bias and discrimination in certain industries/ life choices etc. I am agai… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/20 01:23 AM |
| 3 | Men are not trusted with children while women are considered automatically to be good carers.You are doing your best to raise your child. That is more than a lot of men or women ever do. Dont let someone tell you its immoral. I absolutely respect your morals. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/20 01:05 AM |
| 5 | Where to start?Thanks for what seems to be a reasonable conversation. I would rather jump in on this comment than provide a list of sources that others can/will provide, but by all means I will if you would like. Your comment about denying the patriarchy is what I always find myself drawn to in debates like this. What exactly is the patriarchy? If you use the fairly common definition of a system that grants men social privilege, I fundamentally disagree that is the case. I think our society is best described a… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/20 12:37 AM |
| 3 | QUESTION: What are your views on sex differences in mathematical and reading abilities?Simple question, difficult answer. In terms of education environment, it has been fairly accepted for decades that the way in which we teach is less educational for boys than girls. In some respects having an education system that encourages stereotypically feminine behaviour in the classroom harms boys, in some ways it harms girls by reinforcing those stereotypes. If I had to pick one, I would say it is more harmful to boys on the basis it forces them to change their behaviour more than it does… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/20 11:02 PM |
| 4 | QUESTION: What are your views on sex differences in mathematical and reading abilities?A) There are differences in any way that you use to catagorise people. Im sure you could study the height of people relative to their career and produce some correlation. That correlation might be a flaw in your sample size, it might be a reflection of genetics determining ability or preference. The evidence seems to suggest there is a difference in genders ability in different fields. This should neither be seen as offensive to observe or an indication of individual ability. I am male and perfo… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/20 09:38 PM |
| 4 | I need to talk to a guy about a guy problem. Please?What's up? DM if you prefer. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/20 02:38 AM |
| 4 | Why doesn't the media cover gender discrimination towards males? (in your views)I would say it is in part because women spend more money than men and this probably also relates to media. You tell the story your audience wants to hear. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/20 02:35 AM |
| 26 | a post on r/feminism, like men aren't shamed for having long hairA female school / work uniform generally has a lot more choice than a male one. Boys can only wear trousers which go the ankle. Girls can wear trousers/ dress/ skirt from any length from the ankle to a few inches above the knee. Girls are somehow oppressed that their greater choice isnt even greater. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/20 02:05 AM |
| 18 | “It’s what a husband does for his wife”Living with my sister she said taking out the trash was a 'blue' job. I said if that's the case then cleaning the kitchen is a 'pink' job. She got upset. Women exploit their gender routinely. | /r/MensRights | 19/08/20 02:14 AM |
| 4 | Men's Rights problems in England?Just focused on the criminal aspect as men are told that women dont feel safe as if men do. All data from the UK office of national statistics, so not English but England and Wales. Most figures are for year ending march 2020, domestic violence and homicide figures are 2019 as I have not found 2020 figures. The data is not perfect as can not include unreported crimes. Victims of all crime: 19.7% of men 18.9% of women Victims of personal crime: 11.5% of men 10.5% of women Victims of all violent c… | /r/MensRights | 18/08/20 12:50 AM |
| 3 | We need to put an end to the 20% ruleThe examples you gave a more a 0% rule than a 20% rule. I am an MRA and not someone who needs persuading. I do think men are stronger than women. I do think that neither men or women should hit each other. I do think that society tells men not to hit women , but isnt fussed when women hit men. I just meant this 20% thing is not a modern interpretation, if anything the modern interpretation is worse as it is 0%. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/20 12:38 AM |
| 3 | We need to put an end to the 20% ruleYeh the amount of comments who say what did he do to be hit are terrible. I'm not saying that the idea of men shouldnt hit women isnt alive and well. It is socially more acceptable for women to hit men than vice versa. That is wrong. I'm saying this 20% rule is fairly outdated and unheard of. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/20 12:25 AM |
| 5 | Male rejection vs. Female rejection?Facing rejection is like any unpleasant emotion in life, shocking the first time then easier to deal with. The more rejection you get (men) the easier it is to accept the one off. But also it gets upsetting as a ehy does this always happen to me. You blame yourself not the person rejecting you. The less rejection you get (women) the harder it is to accept the one off. But you dont have to deal with a why does it always happen to me, you get to view it as an exception. So you blame the person rej… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/20 10:04 PM |
| 4 | We need to put an end to the 20% ruleI think that you saying younger generations wont know what you mean suggests the rule has been ended. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/20 09:54 PM |
| -2 | I'm circumcised and have been seeing some posts and done my own research, is this bad?Bloody hell the comments. It is not bad that you are circumcised, nothing for you to feel bad about. You can still have normal sexual activity, some women prefer circumcised some dont but overall it's not a deciding factor. It's bad that your parents made a decision about how they wanted your body to look. That decision making should be discouraged. That's it. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/20 04:35 PM |
| 6 | What do you think is the most legitimate disadvantage that women have?What would you consider a backbone in this situation? Insulting people you will never meet online for encouraging discussion or having views you dont like? That isnt being tough it's being immature. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/20 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Men of Reddit: how would you have preferred to loose your virginity?Just try to make it as relaxing as possible. Start off with a lot of foreplay and stuff you have already done together. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/20 01:35 PM |
| 8 | What do you think is the most legitimate disadvantage that women have?If Men complain that feminist subs dismiss male issues, it would be massively hypocritical to dismiss female issues on this sub. Next time you see a comment on a feminist sub calling someone a pick me girl with no backbone for acknowledging male issues- think of this comment from yourself. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/20 01:32 PM |
| 2 | Can I be more proud as a Man than being a gay?Be proud of whatever makes you proud. I could be more proud of my arms than my legs, completely up to me what features I am proud of. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/20 02:11 PM |
| 3 | I’m writing a paper for my english class on body shaming and slut shaming menOne interesting point to explore is who does the shaming to who. Men dont often slut shame other men. Plenty of men do body shame men though. I would also guess the same when men talk about women - more body shaming than slut shaming. Women definitely slut shame women more than men do. I would guess they slut shame more than they body shame, but still do both. Against men, women probably body shame more than slut shame. Basically I think you would get a chart on the amount and perpetrators of ab… | /r/MensRights | 13/08/20 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Equal pay for unequal work.So everyone deserves a day off, but trans people dont need it as much as women? How quickly did your mind go from deserve to need. Giving women extra time off for being women is exactly using equality as a foil to push for unequal treatment via special privileges. I suspect you know that and are taking the piss. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/20 03:29 AM |
| 2 | Equal pay for unequal work.Honestly how do you view this then? Women ( but only those who are menstruating) get a day or 2 off , so 5-10% of the average working month off? Should they earn 5-10% less a month for working 5-10% less? Or be paid the same for doing less work? Should trans woman be denied this benefit because of their biology? If so should a menopausal woman also lose this bonus? Or a woman on birth control? Can I be a trans woman and complain you dont recognise my emotional periods? Can cis men take time off … | /r/MensRights | 13/08/20 12:48 AM |
| 2 | German newspaper on "fragile masculinity"Fragile masculinity = bad Toxic masculinity = bad Just come out and say masculinity = bad and be done with it. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/20 12:24 AM |
| 3 | Seen this and just had to post it. What if you are underage? Gay? Asexual? In a relationship? Celibate for religious reasons? And you refuse that’s rape? No, it’s quite the opposite.Spot on. There are very few people belligerent enough to outright say have sex and be grateful for it. I dont like dismissing stuff as trolling, but this feels like it both from OP and wherever they found this. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/20 11:59 PM |
| 2 | Yo if my girl ain’t fuckin she gettin a ride home...You won't find the applause you want to be outraged about here. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/20 11:49 PM |
| 14 | Why is every show so woke?The old adage was sex sells, just mainly women. The new adage Is sexism sells, just mainly against men. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/20 07:46 PM |
| 3 | hey what if it's both?Its obvious to me that there are some areas where men face discrimination, and some where women do. Rather rather tackling both sides it does often descend into a who has it worse debate. The point to me is more that in the last 50 or so years there has been a huge amount of legislation passed that tackles discrimination against women, and very little passed that does the same for men. Indeed a lot of legislation has actually discriminated against men in the name of helping women. With this lega… | /r/MensRights | 12/08/20 01:06 PM |
| 1 | I keep getting the argument "Men's rights activism is similar to 'all lives matter'".Men's rights activism is similar to the people saying all lives matter". The distinction is that BLM is focused on demonstrable discrimination. All lives matter is a valid distance but is not really campaigning for anything except fuck BLM. Mens rights is focused on demonstrable discrimination. Feminism is indirectly campaigning to increase that discrimination my diverting funds and attention solely to feminist issues. It would be like all lives matter saying here are the areas where white/Hispa… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/20 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Why is that barely anyone talks about how some women believe that they can treat men any way they want to simply because they have their own money and a nice body?Jesus christ mate. I am not a troll I am a man who believes in male rights, I dont want to get petty but which one of us is gatekeeping? If you can be bothered to scroll through my history feel free. Women are making free choices about who they date. That is not a problem at all. Maybe sometimes they make shitty choices based on an inflated societal value, but really I personally think there are many many more important issues that men face in society. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/20 04:03 AM |
| 1 | Why is that barely anyone talks about how some women believe that they can treat men any way they want to simply because they have their own money and a nice body?Ok... come on I have a lot of interest in and support for this sub. You think me saying that complaining about woman making free choices isnt my primary focus relative to legal discrimination is gate keeping, well ok I will try to avoid it. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/20 03:50 AM |
| 1 | Why is that barely anyone talks about how some women believe that they can treat men any way they want to simply because they have their own money and a nice body?I'm just trying to say pick our battles and complaining about entitled pretty women who will always exist probably isnt the most productive route forward. Happy to accept I'm wrong, just my opinion. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/20 03:19 AM |
| 2 | What is your history with women that made you aware of the suffering of men?Very little to do with my history with women, only seeing how much more support they are given. Much more to do with my history as an alcoholic going through a system which always dismissed my need for help, waiting a year for rehab meeting men in rehab who had to wait as long for funding and women who got that same funding within 2 months. Despite or maybe because alcoholism statistically affects more men, the women ALL got funding quicker and easier. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/20 01:03 AM |
| 2 | I’m a woman, I’m a feminist, and I support men’s rights. Patriarchy affects men too.Just caught this. My immediate response is what about your post details how the patriarchy affects men too? You have mainly described the effects of feminist influence on legislation. They hurt me in their violence and misogyny and feminism gave me a place for healing, for embracing the woman that I am. Does this concern you, that your embracement of feminism was more reactionary than based in truth? (Not downplaying your experiences, just questioning the reaction. Equally I respect if that was … | /r/MensRights | 30/07/20 12:48 AM |
| 2 | Why is that barely anyone talks about how some women believe that they can treat men any way they want to simply because they have their own money and a nice body?Emphasis on some. This sub should be about promoting male rights not moaning about how some women behave. Within the law, women can treat anyone how they like regardless of their wealth or looks. As can men. There are entitled egotistical superficial idiots in both genders. I dont care too much about that, there will always be shit people. I care about the discrimination men face in education, employment, health, social care etc. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/20 12:16 AM |
| 5 | Online bullying is not gendered issue.Love that graph as a response! Unfortunately stats wont change their mind. Garauntee a response like the reason women are bullied less is down to the patriarchy. It doesn't matter if women are bullied less, more or the same it's still discrimination against women... | /r/MensRights | 27/07/20 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Talking to my sister right now and she's stating men are the main reason men are having a hard time with life (then suicide)Man I dont want to be someone to jump on a comment but I dont like seeing anyone talking about offing themself. I'm just an internet stranger who cant offer much meaningful support but if that's genuinely where you are at please reach out to me/anyone/everyone. | /r/MensRights | 25/07/20 02:28 AM |
| 2 | Talking to my sister right now and she's stating men are the main reason men are having a hard time with life (then suicide)Just tell her woman are the main reason woman have a hard time with life and show her the hypocrisy which comes out her mouth. | /r/MensRights | 25/07/20 02:25 AM |
| 4 | Why are we making feminism the enemy?Yeh any movement will have people looking to exploit/ control it for personal motives. I understand that. But when feminism becomes as mainstream as it has, I do think it is absolutely right for people to highlight its flaws and say to moderate feminists you realise this is what you are indirectly supporting. Feminism does have valid points, as does MRA. When one side dictates legal policy and the other side is written off as hate speech it is a massive problem for everyone that needs to be addr… | /r/MensRights | 24/07/20 12:47 AM |
| 6 | Why are we making feminism the enemy?Thanks for the comment, even as very much a newcomer I like to think this sub encourages genuine conversation. Feminism, going by it's original and still widely used definition, strives for equality between the genders. If this was genuinely the case I would have no problem with feminism. My annoyance with feminism is that it claims the above while focusing only on female issues. those people aren't feminists. They might say they are, but they aren't. That is radical feminism. Agreed. The issue … | /r/MensRights | 24/07/20 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Sister says she would never let a male person watch her kid aloneAre you male? Best thing to do is for her to see you being a good carer when you are both with her kid. At some point she will go to the toilet or whatever and realise leaving you with her kid for 5 minutes was fine, it will slowly build up her trust. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/20 10:33 PM |
| 21 | The Work Place Gender Equality Agency get asked "What about the gender workplace hours gap?" and they don't know the answer! I wonder if thet know about overtime, holidays, sick leave, work place fatalities and injuries etc (hint: no but Oh MY GaWWad WyMyNN noT pAiD EquALLy)This should be funny but it is upsetting that governments actually listen to idiots like this who deliberately cherry pick data to suit a narrative. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/20 01:48 AM |
| 3 | How do I explain to feminists that feminism isn't about equal rights?feminism is the movement for equality of both genders If this is true why are mens issues less important to feminism than womens issues? Why does feminism promote quotas to get more women into stem subjects but not talk about the fact more women than men are going into higher education? If more men than women were going into higher education you can bet it would suddenly become more of a concern for feminism. no real feminist is saying that men's issues don't matter. Accept that and the point yo… | /r/MensRights | 18/07/20 06:01 PM |
| 1 | How do I explain to feminists that feminism isn't about equal rights?Yeh I agree with all of that. I have a feminist friend who I care a lot about but she will always try to bring my problems back to male toxicity and the patriarchy. She tries to be empathetic but is too biased by her views to be so. The wage gap narrative is genuinely troubling that so many people buy into a false idea and ignore data that disproves it. This feelings over facts position is part of a wider problem in society and not solely feminist. I just believe the best approach to countering … | /r/MensRights | 17/07/20 11:38 PM |
| 1 | How do I explain to feminists that feminism isn't about equal rights?Yeah those are the negatives of extreme feminist views and deserve criticism but realistically arent the views of the majority of moderate feminists. No point trying to change the view of extremists. I am not trying to defend feminism, some of the prevalent feminist attitudes have caused me personal damage from a young age. However the general mask of feminism as trying to challenge areas where women face discrimination is, I think, laudable - as much as I would hope a reasonable woman would see… | /r/MensRights | 17/07/20 11:26 PM |
| 1 | How do I explain to feminists that feminism isn't about equal rights?I'm late to the conversation but just to add my 2 cents. When I talk to feminists about feminism they tend to ultimately say either a) well yes it is focused on womans rights because 1) females are more oppressed so need more focus or 2) feminism is female centric gender politics. b) It does focus on equality we want to dismantle the patriarchy which harms men as well. My general response is A1) Try to avoid debating who has it worse, we can all throw statistics at each other that is not a const… | /r/MensRights | 17/07/20 10:07 PM |
| 1 | I think it is cruel to leave homeless men to die in the streetsI think you should be euthanized. | /r/MensRights | 12/07/20 09:04 PM |
| 24 | Child protection organisation say male genital mutilation is not child abuse !I know a guy with massive addiction issues who has spoken to me about how he was forcibly circumcised against his will at 11 years old and that trauma is a driving factor in his substance abuse. But yeh sure it isnt child abuse and doesnt cause psychological damage. | /r/MensRights | 12/07/20 02:06 AM |
| 1 | (Question)why should I approve of the feminist rights at allIts positive aspect is drawing attention to the inequalities women face and trying to change them... Very weird choice of Sub to ask for positives about feminism. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/20 12:13 AM |
| 2 | (Question)why should I approve of the feminist rights at allThe point ( to me at least) is that feminism presents itself as a movement for gender equality, when it is actually about gender equality from a female perspective and therefore focused on female only issues. Feminism is widely accepted, pushed in the media and influencing government policy. Any other viewpoint is shot down. It is unhealthy for a heavily biased 'equality' movement to control the narrative on gender issues. Exactly the same as it would be unhealthy for conversations on sexuality … | /r/MensRights | 10/07/20 08:19 PM |
| 5 | Do you consider/include trans men and gay/bi men in your activism?I view it as drawing attention to male issues but the end goal is equality for everyone. Gay/bi men still face male issues. Trans men can be very insightful in debates on gender equality as they have the unique experience of having lived on both sides of the fence ( externally, not going to get into the mental side.) I dont see why MRA should focus on issues that exclusively affect trans or lgbt men as they are more trans/lgbt issues than mens issues. | /r/MensRights | 10/07/20 08:05 PM |
| 6 | Do you guys believe that there will be less war if more women were leaders? Why, why not?I wouldn't expect it to make any difference. Most wars are fought for various political/economic/ cultural reasons and tend to happen only when it feels inevitable not on the whim of a leader. Do you think Germany is less likely to go to war with Merkel in charge than a man? Let's not pretend war is just randomly started by men for some kind of bloodlust and a compassionate woman in charge would find a peaceful solution. That's insulting to both men and women. | /r/MensRights | 04/07/20 11:30 PM |
| 8 | My Ex and Mother of my children is ruining my life...I cant suggest anything legally. It's up to you how you proceed but it is always worth trying to have s relationship with your kids. Every time her story is disproved it makes the next one less credible. All I can really say, if this is any consolation, is that often when the kids grow older they recognise the poor behaviour of either side in a divorce and draw their own conclusions. My mum tried a lot of similar tactics as well as bad mouthing my dad to us. Caused my dad a lot of upset and issu… | /r/MensRights | 01/07/20 08:02 PM |
| 7 | BRAINWASHING | Why Feminist Raise their Son’s to Hate themselves and Men in GeneralMy childhood in a headline. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/20 07:43 PM |
| 2 | bUt mEn lOvE tO bE rApEdThe only way she could have 'seen it' is by either partaking in or watching male rape. Absolutely mental this is allowed to be said. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/20 10:33 PM |
| 3 | Help telling my daughter I can't come to her birthday partyGood man well done. Yeh always try and do the right thing for your kid, my parents were bitterly divorced and I remember who was argumentative and who was reasonable I'm sure your kids will. Any parent who slags off the other one to their kids is asking for resentments down the line. Was more trying to say just dont let it be painted that you ever arent there because you dont care. Hope you have a good day tomorrow. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/20 12:49 AM |
| 8 | Help telling my daughter I can't come to her birthday partyAt 10 your daughter is old enough to understand her parents arent together although obviously doesn't need all the details or any drama. It's a shame you havent got more time but do you have phone contact tonight or tomorrow before the party? ( dont know what time it is where you are.) If so I would explain on the phone that she is having two parties one with mum and one with dad, you would love to be there and will be thinking of her but that is her day with mum you hope she enjoys it and you c… | /r/MensRights | 15/05/20 12:30 AM |
| 4 | Warm weather is reminding me of the serious double standard of workplace attireYeh and come winter you will be stuck in your shirt and tie while they can layer up all they want! | /r/MensRights | 12/05/20 11:39 PM |
| 1 | The similarities in MRA and feminismFair play OP i want to agree and in theory both groups should have the same goal, ie. Equality. Unfortunately individuals will always base their arguments on their experience and focus on the change they feel important which is the injustices they have suffered. Not just with sexism but all social injustice, you get groups which argue to improve conditions for 'their side', others not in that group then argue for 'their side' in an attempt for balance and suddenly nobody is really arguing for eq… | /r/MensRights | 01/05/20 11:40 PM |
| 1 | What are some issues facing boys & men today that are being ignored by society?Being treated as a second class citizen while being told you are privileged. Being viewed as a danger by parents just for being male. Then judged for not being as caring as women. Facing discrimination from employers while being told by the media how much better men are treated at work Men are judged on their appearance just like women, but there are no media campaigns to challenge this like with women. The idea of the Disney princess and unhealthy female role models has rightly been challenged … | /r/MensRights | 27/04/20 11:53 PM |
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