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FundamentalsCanadian-Seductioner/r/seduction05/11/21 01:12 PM
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2

Thanks for sharing!
/r/seduction04/11/22 04:45 AM
2

Not in my 30s yet, but can relate to your story. What's your lay count?
/r/seduction04/11/22 12:21 AM
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Take a look at my post history for a guide on optimizing your OLD profile
/r/seduction30/10/22 09:15 PM
2

You're better off traveling solo and meeting girls in hostels. As for places I recommend Europe and Southeast Asia
/r/seduction30/10/22 03:14 PM
2

Unless you're staring at people, eye contact is not creepy bro. Get that out of your head.
/r/seduction30/10/22 02:04 PM
4

Yes, all women everywhere in the world hate fun now. There are no women out there who want to have a good time 🙄
/r/seduction30/10/22 01:56 PM
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If you have never seduced a woman, you most definitely should not be giving advice on how it's done.
/r/seduction30/10/22 01:38 PM
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Lmao so why are you even making this post?
/r/seduction29/10/22 11:24 PM
1

Lol ok
/r/seduction29/10/22 11:24 PM
4

As long as the advice is about how to cope with your situation and not about how to get women or what women are like, then it's totally fine.
/r/seduction29/10/22 04:36 PM
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Well said, too many guys who have never even touched a vagina outside of the one they came out of when they were born offering advice in this sub.
/r/seduction29/10/22 04:32 PM
4

Move to a bigger city.
/r/seduction29/10/22 03:56 PM
1

I literally responded with doesn't matter as my first response to you
/r/seduction29/10/22 03:38 PM
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Lmao you just told me it does why are you asking me?
/r/seduction29/10/22 03:37 PM
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Ok 👍
/r/seduction29/10/22 03:36 PM
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Pick a bar near hers and at the end of the date, just say hey let's have some wine back at yours.
/r/seduction29/10/22 03:36 PM
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Trying to pick up at meetup events is hella risky bro. You gotta be very indirect at these things and get their socials in the guise that you're just connecting. Then game in the DMs.
/r/seduction29/10/22 03:35 PM
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Doesn't matter.
/r/seduction29/10/22 03:33 PM
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Take a look at my post history. I put together a full guide!
/r/seduction29/10/22 02:06 PM
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Ok well like I said, feel free to send me your profile if you want my opinion
/r/seduction28/10/22 10:02 PM
1

Physically? Maybe an 8 at most. What brings me success is my photos which is what I'm trying to tell you. You said you're decently attractive so the reason you're likely struggling is because your profile isn't optimized.
/r/seduction28/10/22 09:59 PM
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Sounds like your profile isn't optimized. Feel free to send it to me for critique if you like. OLD has been amazing for me.
/r/seduction28/10/22 09:55 PM
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OLD is a goldmine for me. Feel free to send me your profile for a review so I can tell you why you're struggling.
/r/seduction28/10/22 09:54 PM
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What happened to the same post you made in r / seduction?
/r/seduction28/10/22 09:35 PM
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Read this post by u/mo_drps_knwldg: https://www.reddit.com/r/dating_advice/comments/yfq24e/mens_advice_how_to_view_yourself_as_a_prize_and/
/r/seduction28/10/22 07:23 PM
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If you do things to become more attractive, you will be more attractive to women, yes.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:17 PM
4

If you're getting cockblocked by your female friends when you're going out with them, that's a problem with your game, not the fact that you're out with female friends. I've gone out with female friends many a time and haven't had to deal with cockblocking.
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:53 PM
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If girls see you with other girls already, they know you're probably not a creep or loser. You already have status.
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:35 PM
2

Not a red flag, but not something you want to be doing either. Too much of a commitment for someone you don't even know if you like. Propose a drinks date instead.
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:20 AM
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Going out with 3 girls to the club is one of the best scenarios you could be in.
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:19 AM
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Welcome to r / seduction
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:18 AM
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I usually invite her over to cook dinner together. Cheap and easy to escalate.
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:13 AM
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Lmao what's wrong with you bro? Go jerk off or something to release all this random pent up anger you seem to have for no reason. You're wasting your energy on me, go peddle your YouTube shorts to someone else.
/r/seduction28/10/22 03:47 AM
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Lmao I'm good bro, got a girl coming over rn for some Netflix and chill so I don't really need your help. Not sure why you targeted me of all people 😅
/r/seduction28/10/22 03:42 AM
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I did, it's a YouTube short of a still image of a book cover or something with a drake song playing in the background lmao
/r/seduction28/10/22 03:37 AM
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Lol wtf is that video
/r/seduction28/10/22 03:35 AM
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You can get a beer for under $10. I also don't go to fancy cocktail bars. Sometimes I split the bill with the girl too anyway.
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:29 AM
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One last thing: Is the bar walking distance from your place...or does she have to follow you in her car? Anything else I should know Thanks a bunch
/r/seduction27/10/22 10:20 PM
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I'm assuming you greet with a hug, and you're sitting by them probably touching them playfully during a joke or something. Anything else I should know? Is the line simply "Want to go back to mine for some wine?"
/r/seduction27/10/22 10:14 PM
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How does the convo usually go? Like are most women hesistant to go back to your place? I understand Tinder Thots are probably down to go back, but what about Hinge normal women?
/r/seduction27/10/22 10:00 PM
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One drink at a bar and then I invite her over for some wine. Never invest more than like $30 for a first date, meaning save dinner for another date. Anything more complex I save for 2nd & 3rd dates.
/r/seduction27/10/22 07:48 PM
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Wear a cool/funny costume and act as that character, then ask/compliment girls about their costumes. My fave costume I've worn at Halloween was the Duffman costume. Halloween is one of the best times of year to game, it's so easy to open pretty much anyone on a night out since everyone is dressed up.
/r/seduction27/10/22 06:09 PM
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Just look at the recent Adam Levine drama. Dude was married to and had kids with a fucking Victoria's Secret supermodel and was still thirsting over other random girls in the IG DMs
/r/seduction27/10/22 04:15 PM
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Holy shit that's a really good analogy
/r/seduction27/10/22 02:04 PM
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Lmao that's the same line I use when I have too many girls on the go. What should you do? Get more options. This girl is obviously just leading you on.
/r/seduction27/10/22 01:57 PM
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Had 3 different lays last year on Halloween weekend.
/r/seduction27/10/22 01:28 PM
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I get their IG and comment on their stories
/r/seduction27/10/22 01:26 PM
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Lol not at all what I said. Romance and love exist, they just don't look like what Hollywood portrays them as.
/r/seduction27/10/22 01:24 PM
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A few I can think of off the top of my head: Girls never go for the sweet/nice loser best friend after "realizing he was the right guy for her". In real life, that guy remains friendzoned or never even gets to interact with her in the first place. . Girls find most romantic gestures creepy or tryhard (unless you're in a long-term relationship). In real life, getting a girl flowers, playing a boombox outside her window, and expressing your love to her in a dramatic way (to name a few things) will…
/r/seduction27/10/22 12:47 PM
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Lmao exactly. That movie trope fucked me up for the longest time by giving me false hope with women.
/r/seduction27/10/22 12:26 PM
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That the way Hollywood portrays romance is not at all accurate to reality.
/r/seduction27/10/22 04:25 AM
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Move out lmao
/r/seduction27/10/22 01:30 AM
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Only thing is she might have remembered matching with him on bumble so OP is better off mentioning it
/r/seduction26/10/22 11:13 PM
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It's not creepy. You can always just say she appeared in your explore page or some shit. Edit: Oh wait, that doesn't work if you say you saw her on bumble. Either way it's not creepy bro.
/r/seduction26/10/22 10:50 PM
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Just follow her and see if she follows back. If she does, say hey I saw your profile on bumble so I thought I'd connect. How do you know x?
/r/seduction26/10/22 10:47 PM
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Haha okay, can't get through to everyone 🤷
/r/seduction26/10/22 10:30 PM
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She likely sees you as lacking confidence and boldness
/r/seduction26/10/22 08:29 PM
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Not necessarily, but you're better off focusing your energy on a new girl as opposed to trying to win back an old one that you fucked up with
/r/seduction26/10/22 08:17 PM
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You can learn from it for the next time.
/r/seduction26/10/22 07:57 PM
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Safe way to do it is to have a normal first date, then invite her over to yours at the end of it. If she accepts your invite, then there's your cue that she wants you to make a move.
/r/seduction26/10/22 06:51 PM
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Wasn't responding to your comment, but hope you get that harem you're looking for!
/r/seduction26/10/22 04:59 PM
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Exactly. I had to unlearn everything that Hollywood taught me growing up to finally start having success with women.
/r/seduction26/10/22 01:26 PM
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Hollywood definitely pushes the idea that dates have to be romantic and men have to be as gentlemanly as possible with women or else they're complete assholes which is the complete opposite of reality.
/r/seduction26/10/22 01:23 PM
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Thanks bro 🙏
/r/seduction26/10/22 01:06 PM
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Probably has a good profile.
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:52 PM
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Preach 🙏
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:50 PM
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If she smiles and looks you in the eyes, that's a good sign she's interested in the interaction. If her body language makes it seem like she wants the conversation to end, then she's not interested. There may be a few exceptions to this, but you're better off focusing on the majority than trying to win over the exceptions as well.
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:45 PM
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If it's something you enjoy doing, then all the power to you my man 💪
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:39 PM
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It's the method I use with every girl I date and it works extremely well for me. Haven't run into many, if any anomalies. The gist of it is: if she agrees to come over to yours for any reason, she's into you so do something about it. And regardless of that, you should always be trying to go for the kiss-close at the end of the 1st date anyway to establish some level of physical intimacy and be sure that she's actually into you so you know if you can schedule a 2nd date.
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:37 PM
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Yeah we're not trying to seduce 48 year olds here.
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:34 PM
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Yep, it's extremely common now.
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:34 PM
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1st date sex has no bearing on the "quality of the girl". I've been with very high quality girls who have put out on the 1st date because we were vibing. Stop having these misogynistic thoughts.
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:30 PM
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1st date sex has no bearing on the "quality of the girl". I've been with very high quality girls who have put out on the 1st date because we were vibing. Stop having these misogynistic thoughts.
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:30 PM
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I've had a very similar experience. I cringe when I think back to it because it was such an easy layup, but I was too scared to make a move. Fellas, if she comes over to watch a movie, MAKE A MOVE.
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:26 PM
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Meh, while I can see it working, it unnecessarily complicates things. Better to just make the move when expected.
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:24 PM
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At the end of the first date, invite her over to your place. If she agrees, make out with her when you get to yours and try to escalate to sex. If she doesn't agree to come over, go for the kiss close when you're saying goodbye and schedule a 2nd date cooking together at yours where you attempt to escalate to sex. If she said no to coming over and doesn't want to kiss you at all at the end of the 1st date, forget about her and move on to the next girl. Similarly, if she only came over on the 2nd…
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:22 PM
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Send me a pic of your face and body and I'll tell you if you've maximized your attractiveness or not.
/r/seduction26/10/22 04:30 AM
1

Right, in this case just give up and let the rest of us get the girls 😁
/r/seduction26/10/22 03:59 AM
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No. 1 way to friendzone yourself: be too scared to make a move and escalate when you need to.
/r/seduction25/10/22 08:57 PM
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Irrelevant to what OP is saying, but yes you are correct in that you want to avoid bringing up sex too quickly.
/r/seduction25/10/22 08:55 PM
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First: maximize your attractiveness. Second: use direct openers in daygame and indirect openers in nightgame, then gauge how interested they are based on their reactions. Proceed accordingly afterwards. If you're always getting negative reactions, then something is off with your outer game - you likely haven't maximized your attractiveness.
/r/seduction25/10/22 07:31 PM
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Bars: Most women are in groups in separate tables, you only rarely see someone at the bar open to be approached. Go to bars that have a social vibe, where people are standing rather than sitting at separate tables. And even if they're sitting at table, it doesn't mean you can't approach. Clubs: Women have their guard up and their friends come to the rescue. And you really can't have a conversation in clubs You act as if nobody picks up at clubs lmao your game is just weak bro. Hit the dancefloor…
/r/seduction25/10/22 03:40 PM
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The lengths guys will go to to justify their lack of effort when it comes to improving their game smh
/r/seduction25/10/22 03:21 PM
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My sex life only got better after 25
/r/seduction25/10/22 12:10 PM
2

Tight fitting clothes are sexy, yes.
/r/seduction25/10/22 12:16 AM
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It does sound like you might have an addiction then, considering the lying, leading on, banging anyone willing to bang you with low standards. Sex addiction is a real thing and if you actually wanted to fix it, you'd probably have to start talking to a therapist experienced in this sort of thing. I also sleep with a lot of women, more than you actually, but I don't do it dishonestly, I don't lie to them or lead them on, and I rarely go below my standards either. This is what makes me think you a…
/r/seduction24/10/22 11:26 PM
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This post feels off, like a troll or perhaps written about someone else whom you despise, but in the first person in an attempt to justify yourself in despising him by garnering empathetic comments.
/r/seduction24/10/22 11:19 PM
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Fuck them three times, and don’t fuck them no more, Cause they just fall in love if you fuck them the fourth.
/r/seduction24/10/22 10:21 PM
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My personal rule is: don't take a woman seriously until you've been inside her on at least 3 separate occasions. The first might have been a fluke and the second might just be her giving you another chance because she's still not 100% sure about you, but if she lets you fuck her a third time, then you definitely know she probably likes you.
/r/seduction24/10/22 11:57 AM
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Okay
/r/seduction24/10/22 11:17 AM
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No one says you have to, but if you want to avoid the friendzone, it is advised that you do.
/r/seduction24/10/22 11:16 AM
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I use IG to text personally so I don't run into that issue.
/r/seduction24/10/22 11:13 AM
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Drink at a bar. Nothing less nothing more.
/r/seduction24/10/22 04:32 AM
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Just "like" their last message rather than leave them on read.
/r/seduction24/10/22 04:31 AM
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LTRs can happen from OLD, but the most you usually get is a fling.
/r/seduction23/10/22 05:23 PM
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I mean yeah you want to optimize your chances by being in a high traffic area ideally, but if that's not an option right now, then compromising on this rule is definitely an ok thing to do.
/r/seduction23/10/22 03:48 PM
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It became the rule for me after I realized I was wasting my time on girls who made me wait longer than 2 dates. It was almost always never actually worth it and there are so many other girls who are down on the 1st/2nd date anyway.
/r/seduction23/10/22 03:44 PM
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Some girls just have a personal rule of no sex on the first date and there's not much you can do about it. That or they're on their period.
/r/seduction23/10/22 03:36 PM
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I live by the max 2 dates before sex rule, but often get it on the 1st. I only get it on the 2nd if she's not down for it on the 1st (which happens about a third of the time). If she doesn't put out on the 2nd either though, then I just drop her and move on to the next.
/r/seduction23/10/22 03:25 PM
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Good rule of thumb guide, especially for newbies. That being said, I don't follow the "texting only for logistics" rule and it works out much better for me than if I did. I obviously don't go overboard either, but I just don't think about it and text her as much as I feel like, as if she was a friend of mine. Granted, I text using IG so the dynamic is a little different with stories and stuff.
/r/seduction23/10/22 03:23 PM
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Seduction refers to the act of enticing someone into sexual intercourse. You might be better off in r / dating advice
/r/seduction22/10/22 10:07 PM
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Then you're in the wrong subreddit.
/r/seduction22/10/22 09:49 PM
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😂 😂 😂 Haven't been with a fat chick in years bro. Currently hanging at the beach with a 9/10 actually
/r/seduction22/10/22 08:54 PM
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Nope, just a dude who got his shit together
/r/seduction22/10/22 08:47 PM
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Exactly, don't even try so the rest of us have a better chance 😁
/r/seduction22/10/22 08:44 PM
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If you aren't trying to smash by the 2nd date, you're doing it wrong.
/r/seduction22/10/22 08:43 PM
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Good poker players don't cry about getting dealt an offsuit 2 and 8 while other players get pocket aces. They make do with what they've been dealt and you should too.
/r/seduction22/10/22 01:14 PM
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I thought I was pretty clear, but ok. Good luck on your netflix & chill date!
/r/seduction22/10/22 01:39 AM
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Well the point of this subreddit is to help people seduce women so I was just informing you how to best do so in your situation, which would be to change your beliefs, yes. I even gave you a second option if that wasn't possible for you. You're intentionally getting angry at me for no reason.
/r/seduction22/10/22 01:31 AM
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i didn't asked for your moral judgement or to be put in a chair and be called evil, i really hope you don't speak like that with anyone you disagree with ideologically. Didn't do any of that, you're putting words in my mouth. I was just telling you that those types of beliefs will limit your seduction results because most women find them unattractive, therefore they will likely find you unattractive.
/r/seduction22/10/22 01:23 AM
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Good bot.
/r/seduction22/10/22 01:10 AM
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If you actually take Ben Shapiro seriously, your beliefs will limit your results so the first thing you should do is re-evaluate your beliefs. If that's not an option for you, then yes, hide the book. Edit: getting downvoted for telling someone that girls don't like right wingers, didn't realize there were so many Shapiro simps here lmao. It isn't that far fetched to tell someone to re-evaluate their beliefs on a seduction subreddit if said beliefs limit them from achieving their seduction goals…
/r/seduction22/10/22 01:09 AM
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By gaming lol
/r/seduction21/10/22 11:04 AM
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Get a FWB and ask her if she's ever had a threesome before. Then ask her what she thinks of them. If you're getting positive energy from her, then you can ask her if she has any friends who might be into it. If she doesn't, then you'll just have to find another FWB who is and then set up a date with both of them.
/r/seduction21/10/22 03:25 AM
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Look through my post history
/r/seduction20/10/22 09:33 PM
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Majority from dating apps. I'm white with an optimized profile in a Latin American country though so it's kinda like being on easy mode. When I was back in Canada, I was still using the apps, but was still getting dates at least every 2 days.
/r/seduction20/10/22 04:56 PM
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I don't keep track of my rejections, that's a bit extreme. As for dates, I'm meeting girls pretty much every day lol
/r/seduction20/10/22 04:51 PM
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Oof cringe. She didn't respond. Not surprised and if you are, you got some work to do.
/r/seduction20/10/22 03:52 PM
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Your profile matters more than your one-liners. I use the same opener with every match (not a cheesy/funny/over the top/tryhard pickup line), then have a short conversation about how their week/weekend is going/was, and then ask them out. It's extremely low-effort and works extremely well for me.
/r/seduction20/10/22 03:26 PM
3

Lol alright bro continue being a nice guy then
/r/seduction20/10/22 11:40 AM
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To be fair, he called what you said dumb, not you dumb.
/r/seduction20/10/22 05:22 AM
0

Yeah because nice guys are bad energy lol
/r/seduction20/10/22 03:46 AM
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I disagree, it's literally what being a nice guy is and what I was referring to when I said this post has nice guy energy.
/r/seduction19/10/22 11:23 PM
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This man got all the cheat codes.
/r/seduction19/10/22 10:39 PM
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Lmao well you're wrong. It means you're good in bed.
/r/seduction19/10/22 10:12 PM
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You really think that's a bad thing?
/r/seduction19/10/22 09:40 PM
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Go check out r / niceguys and tell me that kind of energy isn't bad lol
/r/seduction19/10/22 07:48 PM
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Maybe a little note at the top stating it's a repost would eliminate any confusion for next time
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:36 PM
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Was just wondering if I was going crazy or not having read the exact same post recently, that's all
/r/seduction19/10/22 06:26 PM
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You don't wanna be pushy about it, you gotta take it step by step and stop if you experience resistance, but if she's into it, you should go through with it. Girls wanna have sex too and they kinda expect guys to escalate to it on the first date these days so you might be subconsciously telling them you're being a little chicken about it when you don't even try to go for it. I'm just spitballin here.
/r/seduction19/10/22 05:36 PM
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Hard to tell what's going wrong to be honest, you might just be getting unlucky or maybe you're a terrible kisser. The only major thing I do differently to you is I try to escalate to sex on the first date, not just a kiss, and I've found that to work out quite well for me in terms of girls wanting to see me again.
/r/seduction19/10/22 04:57 PM
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100%. A big part of seduction is having the right mindset + attitude and a lot of guys who try to get into it simply do not have it.
/r/seduction19/10/22 04:54 PM
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Getting a lot of nice guy energy from this post bro. At the end of the day, you gotta make yourself attractive to women if you want to attract women.
/r/seduction19/10/22 04:52 PM
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Didn't you post this a few weeks ago? Edit: yep, he did: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/xk67vt/unless_you_are_in_an_established_relationship/
/r/seduction19/10/22 02:47 PM
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Personally, I'll take my chances. Have dated and been with hundreds of women and haven't had to deal with anything like this. I would severely hinder my results if I waited until the 2nd date to make a move. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I like to think I'm fairly socially calibrated.
/r/seduction19/10/22 01:41 PM
2

Alright well I hope that works out for you!
/r/seduction19/10/22 01:33 PM
2

Almost any topic can be fun if you're flirting. Just ask them about themselves and tease them lightly about their answers. The tone of your voice isn't important (unless you sound like Mickey Mouse) so stop worrying about that.
/r/seduction19/10/22 12:35 PM
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Sounds like your personality isn't really on par with your looks. Girls probably just like you for your looks, but don't think you have much else to offer them. This is just a guess based on what you've told us.
/r/seduction19/10/22 12:33 PM
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I would advise against it.
/r/seduction19/10/22 12:31 PM
1

For your own legal safety? What? Lol You should always be going for the kiss on the first date (assuming it's going well).
/r/seduction19/10/22 12:30 PM
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Drinks first, pool after bro.
/r/seduction19/10/22 12:29 PM
3

Life starts at the end of your comfort zone.
/r/seduction19/10/22 05:23 AM
1

I agree. It should be "be the most attractive version of yourself you can be". This means stay true to who you are, but maximize your attractiveness so you can actually attract women.
/r/seduction19/10/22 05:22 AM
-5

Grasping at straws but ok
/r/seduction19/10/22 12:38 AM
1

You do you bro. I think you're missing out though.
/r/seduction19/10/22 12:38 AM
-1

Charisma could defs be included as one of the other parts that make up attractiveness, but you made it seem like it's the term for every other part I mentioned. Sorry, misunderstood you, my bad!
/r/seduction18/10/22 10:34 PM
2

Having a fit body has nothing to do with charisma lol
/r/seduction18/10/22 10:27 PM
13

Charisma has to do with the way you act, not the way you look/what kind of person you are.
/r/seduction18/10/22 10:18 PM
-1

I didn't understand your point, but that's ok. Have a good day!
/r/seduction18/10/22 09:57 PM
-1

I guess I must have misunderstood your English then, my bad!
/r/seduction18/10/22 09:45 PM
1

Not sure why you're picking specific places when it's pretty much the same environment/experience in almost every western country. I've had great success in bars in more than just those 2 cities in Canada as well as across the US, in addition to the locations you've mentioned. If you were talking about western bars vs eastern bars, then maybe you'd have a point.
/r/seduction18/10/22 09:44 PM
3

Love that story. Boldness can be effective for sure.
/r/seduction18/10/22 09:31 PM
2

The apps are very image-based. If you don't have good photos, you will struggle. This does not reflect who you actually are which is why many guys who can't get girls on apps still kill it in real life. If the apps aren't doing it for you, focus on IRL game.
/r/seduction18/10/22 09:01 PM
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Was referring to this specific part of your comment: "The apps give priority to who pays so I think is less natural now and girls doesnt have the best options in terms of men presented to them." Sorry, should have quoted it in my original response to make it clearer.
/r/seduction18/10/22 08:44 PM
17

Until you decide to make one of them your girlfriend, you should not disclose that you are talking to/seeing other people. It is self-sabotage. Chances are, the girls are doing the same anyway.
/r/seduction18/10/22 08:33 PM
2

Bars are one of the best places to meet single women, yes.
/r/seduction18/10/22 08:12 PM
4

Bro, his name is Chad, of course he's been a master at game from birth.
/r/seduction18/10/22 08:09 PM
7

I won't lie, I start to feel frustrated knowing my intentions are pure: I truly just want to get to know someone doing cute things with like getting pizza / feeding the ducks. I'm looking for a girlfriend. You gotta save the cute dates for the 2nd & 3rd dates. The first date should be simple: a drink at a bar to get to know each other. You should at least kiss-close her on the 1st date, but don't be afraid to invite her over and go for the f-close too. Girls want to feel wanted and if you're not…
/r/seduction18/10/22 08:06 PM
-1

I don't pay for the apps and I still find success. The quality of your profile matters more than whether or not you pay for it.
/r/seduction18/10/22 08:01 PM
52

It creates a false self of attraction where 80% of girls now believe they deserve literal perfection and won’t settle for anything less. I’m not suggesting girls should settle but you shouldn’t believe you can be with Ryan Reynolds either 100% true. I've seen this in my female friends who complain about not being able to find a good guy because they don't want to settle for someone who's only decent looking, but gives them everything else they want in a partner and would rather keep trying out a…
/r/seduction18/10/22 08:00 PM
14

Externally: I worked on my body (most important), improved my style, got a better haircut, and started sporting a stubble. Internally: read self-help books like The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck , No More Mr Nice Guy, 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, How to Win Friends and Influence People, and Models, and applied all those learnings to my life. Socially: started taking up social and attractive hobbies like learning languages, dancing, and beach volleyball, and started putting myself out t…
/r/seduction18/10/22 06:18 PM
2

Well said!
/r/seduction18/10/22 05:09 PM
290

What you're saying isn't wrong, but you're missing an important point. You also need to be attractive for it to work. Now when I say attractive, I don't mean good looking. This is because while looks are an important part of attraction, they aren't the only part. Your body, mindset, attitude, style, hobbies, and personality all also play key roles and you can easily make up for your looks if you work on them. In essence, maximize your attractiveness so that you become an attractive person and th…
/r/seduction18/10/22 04:37 PM
44

For me it was at the age of 18 and the switch that flipped was when I realized my problems weren't externally caused, but rather internally caused. In other words, my failures with women weren't the fault of women themselves, society, or some other bullshit excuse, but rather my own fault for not becoming the type of person that women would find attractive. After that, it took several years of work to achieve meaningful success with a few lucky breaks in between.
/r/seduction18/10/22 04:32 PM
1

So because your text game sucks, it's the app's fault for being "a time-waster, unnatural, and sketchy"? This is a terrible mindset to have, regardless of the context. Re-train your brain to look for opportunities to improve as opposed to opportunities to criticize, it will help you significantly in all aspects of your life, including seduction. For reference, I use dating apps extensively and they have made dating so much easier. You just gotta know how to use them.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:01 PM
3

If you must date women do not pay for them until they are committed to you. Instead of going on dates, initiate hangouts that lead to sex. Got a boat and like to fish? Take her on it! Like to play video games? Like to go hunting? Take her on an adventure. Invite her to join you. The point is to have hobbies that you can invite her to. Dating doesn't mean paying for their dinner or whatever. Doing the things you mentioned is still dating.
/r/seduction18/10/22 12:27 PM
1

Sounds like you didn't pull the trigger when you needed to and now you lost your chance.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:27 AM
15

It's not mandatory, but it will help a whole lot.
/r/seduction17/10/22 11:31 PM
2

Show us the photo and we'll tell you
/r/seduction17/10/22 08:55 PM
63

Because it's stigmatized in standard society due to many women feeling uncomfortable when it's done badly or by a creep so people generalize it and thus dislike it as a whole. This sub is an exception and actively encourages it because it's one of the best ways to meet women. However, try to keep it to yourself outside of this sub as a result of its stigma.
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:26 PM
0

Bruh this ain't Saudi Arabia, you'll be fine
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:12 PM
1

Meant OP of the comment. Is there another term for that?
/r/seduction17/10/22 12:30 PM
5

As well as the balls to actually invite her over too, a lot of guys chicken out for fear of rejection.
/r/seduction16/10/22 11:15 PM
4

OLD works extremely well and is a game changer if you know how to build a good profile. . Most average guys can become at least a 7, many even an 8 if they put work into their appearance. Meaning get jacked (most important), wear stylish clothes, get a good haircut, and groom themselves well. . The main thing holding guys back from success is their mindset and attitude. They blame women for not liking them for being "nice" rather than working on themselves to become attractive to them. . If afte…
/r/seduction16/10/22 11:05 PM
3

Lmao Twitter game, that's a new one. Just follow her on IG and send her a DM. If she doesn't react, move on to the next one.
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:36 PM
10

She probably lost interest. Move on to the next.
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:33 PM
8

Lmao at this bot correcting OP more than once haha
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:33 PM
32

Texting is just to set up the date, right? Nope, that's antiquated thinking from back when everyone had flip phones. At this point, should you keep the conversation going or just stop and wait until the date? It's a balance. You don't want to go cold turkey because she might assume you've lost interest, but you also don't want to overdo it either because that will turn her off. Just continue the existing conversation after establishing the date and when it ends, just check in on her a day or two…
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:31 PM
12

Meh, I rarely sexualize my first dates and they almost always end up back at mine regardless. As long as the girl knows it's a date, the implication is there already.
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:26 PM
1

"do you travel? No way, what's your favourite place you've traveled to? Got any fun travel stories?"
/r/seduction16/10/22 08:03 PM
6

Tell her role-play. I.e. Teacher-student, doctor-patient, etc.
/r/seduction16/10/22 02:36 PM
8

They don't need to be professional photos, just good ones. Not sure how out of shape you are, but you can hide it with clothes for now if it's not that bad. Once your body is good, just take some beach/pool pics to add to your profile too.
/r/seduction16/10/22 01:25 PM
1

Learn languages, learn to dance, learn an instrument, join casual team sports, travel, to name a few.
/r/seduction16/10/22 01:23 PM
6

Bro get those photos, it will change your dating life.
/r/seduction16/10/22 01:21 PM
2

Look through my post history, I wrote a post explaining exactly how to build a winning dating app profile.
/r/seduction16/10/22 01:21 PM
1

I have no value to provide to them. Well then start doing things that give you value.
/r/seduction16/10/22 01:19 PM
3

If she doesn't even want to kiss me on the first date, I'm not wasting my time with her on any other dates lmao
/r/seduction16/10/22 01:18 PM
3

If they don't want to make time to schedule a date with you, just respond with "ok no worries let's see if we can find a time next week" and then leave it at that. Then, follow up a week later by starting a normal conversation to get a feel for their vibe before proposing another date.
/r/seduction16/10/22 01:16 PM
4

Oh that's sick thanks
/r/seduction16/10/22 01:14 PM
3

Probably because you're cute and not hot. So what can I do to change this? Hard to tell you without knowing what you look like.
/r/seduction15/10/22 10:11 PM
5

Optimize your dating app profile with good photos.
/r/seduction15/10/22 10:07 PM
2

Walkable? Not many cities fit that bill in the states. That being said, Austin is pretty good if you live downtown.
/r/seduction15/10/22 10:05 PM
4

Seduction =/= manipulation techniques and tactics
/r/seduction15/10/22 02:08 PM
1

My own. Look through my post history.
/r/seduction15/10/22 12:05 PM
4

Lmao silly thing to focus on bro. It really doesn't matter.
/r/seduction14/10/22 12:50 PM
1

Do you think that most women would expect a traditional date before a hook up? Most women? Yes. All women? No. If the man insists on going Dutch, many if not most women will refuse to hook up with the man, because she gets nothing out of it. She only got involved in the hook up to begin with, because she was hoping for a free meal. That is what I have heard. I do not know if it is accurate or not? It's not. I've fucked many women after splitting the bill with them. There have been instances wher…
/r/seduction14/10/22 12:48 PM
2

Unless you sound like Mickey Mouse, it really doesn't matter.
/r/seduction14/10/22 12:44 PM
3

I prefer just not think about it at all because its really not that important. That's what I said...
/r/seduction14/10/22 12:42 PM
6

I'm 29 and have had the best year ever of my dating life and it's not even over yet.
/r/seduction13/10/22 05:58 PM
1

There is a subtle way. Assume she has roommates and ask her about them. If she lives alone, she'll correct you to say she actually doesn't have any roommates.
/r/seduction13/10/22 12:49 PM
1

The rise of the incels and manosphere has corrupted this sub.
/r/seduction13/10/22 12:48 PM
17

The way you do it is by separating your self worth from other people's opinions of you. The key to being confident is not giving a fuck what other people think of you. Therefore, if a girl rejects you, it won't bother you in the slightest because your self worth isn't affected by it. Your self worth should stand on its own.
/r/seduction13/10/22 12:45 PM
6

I go out on dates every night of the week, doesn't really make a difference lol. Some girls are easier to pull on weekends though since they don't have to wake up early the next day.
/r/seduction13/10/22 01:38 AM
7

Smoothest way? Assume she has roommates and let her correct you if she doesn't. For example: "So what are your roommates like? You guys get along?" If she has roommates, she'll say yeah or no or whatever. If she lives alone, she'll say "I actually don't have any".
/r/seduction13/10/22 01:37 AM
16

This post needs to be pinned. Extremely well said.
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:46 PM
51

Compliment their vibe, smile, or style on the apps, not their looks. You can tell them how hot they are when you're inside them.
/r/seduction11/10/22 10:10 PM
2

Here's what I can tell you. If you're introverted, your best bet is to drink to loosen up (not getting drunk though) if going out to bars, clubs, or other crowded events. If that's not an option, then stick to meeting girls by focusing on your hobbies and social circles.
/r/seduction11/10/22 03:00 PM
1

Lol so don't go to them for advice?
/r/seduction11/10/22 02:42 PM
2

It is. And the common thread you will see in this sub is that introverted people aren't getting laid whereas extroverted people are. If you're saying you know people in real life who do not fit that narrative, then you're better off talking to them.
/r/seduction11/10/22 02:41 PM
1

I don't. Just saying you'd have better luck asking someone you know than strangers on reddit.
/r/seduction11/10/22 02:33 PM
1

Nothing more useful than someone you actually know who already has the answers you're looking for.
/r/seduction11/10/22 02:32 PM
1

So ask him how he does it instead of strangers on reddit?
/r/seduction11/10/22 02:29 PM
-3

I'm saying you're going to struggle getting laid being introverted.
/r/seduction11/10/22 02:24 PM
-4

Sure, just letting you know it's not going to be easy as it is now.
/r/seduction11/10/22 02:08 PM
3

You'd have better luck as an extrovert for sure. Girls often mistake introversion for insecurity which is not attractive.
/r/seduction11/10/22 02:01 PM
2

Bigger cities are definitely better for the apps. If you want, I can review your profile in the DMs and give you tips to improve it. Also, funny you say tinder is the best for you and bumble is the worst. Bumble is actually the best for me, followed by Hinge, then Tinder.
/r/seduction11/10/22 01:12 PM
2

If you're as attractive as you say you are, then you're just missing the right photos. Good photos are everything on the apps. These apps are a sausage fest filled with bots and onlyfans girls where they want guys to just pay for more features in hope of success. Not true whatsoever. I'm swimming in matches myself (with actual girls, not dudes, bots, or OF thots) and I don't have enough time to see them all.
/r/seduction11/10/22 12:14 PM
1

Don't know how the title relates to the post, but responding to the title here: if you have a profile that's on point, then dating apps are easily the best way to get hookups. I have had an insane amount of hookups over the past 2 years thanks to them.
/r/seduction11/10/22 05:44 AM
2

Lol so we're selling products on this sub now?
/r/seduction10/10/22 09:12 PM
2

I'm going to be real with you bro. You are at a disadvantage for sure. The other guys telling you you are not bad looking are just being nice. Here's what you need to do to have the best chance at success: Build your body as best you can. Get jacked to make up for your looks. Also get a stylish haircut. Don't focus on girls at all and instead, do everything you can to make as much money as you can. Money is another way you can make up for your looks. Once you've done at least one of the two, but…
/r/seduction10/10/22 03:54 AM
-1

Nah, he'd probably be impressed by your boldness.
/r/seduction08/10/22 08:47 PM
2

Don't care and you shouldn't either.
/r/seduction08/10/22 08:46 PM
-4

I get hookup offers but I decline cause I want to wait until I get a boyfriend to have sex (also side question is it normal to wait until you are dating to have sex? You're better off just getting it out of the way sooner rather than later. The special-ness of losing your virginity is overrated. If you find a guy who's willing to do it, I'd say just go for it.
/r/seduction08/10/22 08:45 PM
0

under 30, women Yeah, by 1% lol meaningless
/r/seduction07/10/22 05:59 PM
1

Update: just tried that opener on a tinder match and it worked perfectly haha thanks again bro. Curious how you handle the next steps after? Do you just set up a time for them to come over? And when they do come over, do you warm up into it or just kinda physically escalate relatively quickly as soon as they're at your place?
/r/seduction07/10/22 03:44 PM
1

Lol ok buddy
/r/seduction07/10/22 02:10 PM
2

Haha ok cool thanks for sharing man!
/r/seduction07/10/22 01:22 AM
1

For example? Thinking of employing this opener myself.
/r/seduction07/10/22 01:20 AM
1

And when it comes to the other 70%, are you able to recover with some of them or are they all lost causes at that point?
/r/seduction07/10/22 01:05 AM
1

What would you say is your success rate with that opener?
/r/seduction07/10/22 01:03 AM
1

The implication that you need to become the loud obnoxious party addicted frat bro in order to have dating success. Never said that, you're putting words in my mouth and building a strawman. That if you prefer a more reserved scene and vibe that you are a broken man that needs to “grow” into the frat bro. Also never said that either. You can be reserved and quiet if you want, I'm just saying it will limit your opportunities with women, that's all. You definitely don't need to go to the other ext…
/r/seduction06/10/22 09:10 PM
3

First dates should be simple. A drink at a bar, nothing more. This is because the point is to get to know each other and make sure you guys like each other before committing to some kind of activity. 2nd and 3rd dates are when you want to do a fun activity.
/r/seduction06/10/22 08:33 PM
5

Well they will always look at you the same way as they did when you were growing up, no matter how much you change. You will not be able to change the way they look at you. You need to go on your own path and find new people who look at you with a fresh perspective.
/r/seduction06/10/22 07:49 PM
3

The first step was an honest self-realization that I didn't like who I was and the life I was living as a result and that I needed to do something about it. This was the kick-off moment and gave me the motivation I needed to dedicate myself to self-growth to become that person I wanted to be. The next step was a glow-up. This meant hitting the gym, getting a better haircut, improving my style, and working on my social skills by going to lots of events and talking to people. Reading self-help boo…
/r/seduction06/10/22 07:08 PM
0

Whatever you say bro, it's easier to deny everything than work on yourself at the end of the day 🤷
/r/seduction06/10/22 05:33 PM
0

I used to be shy and introverted. Took several years of growth, but I grew out of it and became confident + extroverted, and my game improved significantly as a result. All it took was dedication and a willingness to improve. Some people just aren't willing to put the work in, that's all. They'd rather downvote people who make them feel bad about being lazy lol
/r/seduction06/10/22 05:19 PM
1

Not fake if you grow as a person to become that attractive person. Sounds like you have problems with personal growth.
/r/seduction06/10/22 05:12 PM
2

Well duh. If who you are is unattractive, how can you expect to attract anyone? Lol
/r/seduction06/10/22 05:09 PM
8

When it comes to being out with friends, I don’t feel the need to be the center of attention or the life of the party, I’m totally content being my quiet self and not having to be that funny guy. Sounds like that's your problem, assuming you're otherwise as attractive as you seem to say you are. Timidness/quietness/introvertedness gives the impression that you're insecure (and I've found most guys who act this way are) which is not attractive to women. You need to develop a more confident and ex…
/r/seduction06/10/22 01:53 PM
1

Kansas City is pretty affordable. New Orleans too.
/r/seduction06/10/22 12:36 PM
2

Sounds like you need to get your life together before trying to chase girls.
/r/seduction06/10/22 11:55 AM
2

Or Miami lol
/r/seduction06/10/22 11:55 AM
1

Not sure you'll get much advice on lesbian game in this sub. It's mostly men here.
/r/seduction06/10/22 11:54 AM
17

You need to have a good profile and just follow them + comment on their stories. If they respond with more than just liking your comments, then you know there's interest.
/r/seduction06/10/22 11:53 AM
15

Give me an example of one good tik tok that you think gave you good seduction advice lol
/r/seduction06/10/22 03:26 AM
1

You probably haven't maxed out your looks or built a good profile.
/r/seduction05/10/22 12:05 PM
41

Yes it is.
/r/seduction04/10/22 02:15 PM
6

Try hooking up with a guy, you might actually like it and decide to go for guys instead who are much easier to get laid with.
/r/seduction03/10/22 10:28 PM
1

Not if you're going to parties. Could get laid the same night.
/r/seduction03/10/22 10:27 PM
2

I usually just drop a "hey we should grab a drink sometime, what do you think?" Always works.
/r/seduction03/10/22 01:59 PM
2

Early 20s is still young bro, our brains don't fully develop until 25.
/r/seduction01/10/22 02:29 PM
1

Play pool and "help" her with her shots. Then invite her over to yours and escalate to sex there.
/r/seduction01/10/22 03:46 AM
1

Not unpopular. It matters for sure, that's why you don't go out looking like a slob.
/r/seduction01/10/22 03:45 AM
2

Lmao damn bro wasn't criticizing him in any way, was just asking him about it. Gotta love reddit 😂
/r/seduction30/09/22 08:49 PM
1

Can't give advice on that, sorry
/r/seduction30/09/22 06:00 PM
1

😂 😂 😂 Keep slaying king
/r/seduction30/09/22 03:42 PM
2

Lol what? Arrogance is believing you are better or more important than other people and behaving in a pompous way about it. Nothing to do with what I said. Your condescending tone in your comment makes me think you got some arrogance issues lmao.
/r/seduction30/09/22 03:26 PM
2

Confidence boils down to not giving a fuck what others think about you and doing/saying whatever you want (within reason of course)
/r/seduction30/09/22 02:42 PM
8

Being able to read a situation and be smooth about it is so much better than asking for consent lol and this applies to everything from giving a hug, holding hands, dancing, kissing, fucking, etc. Girls who say they want to be asked for consent mean they want to be asked by people who are unattractive because that way they can just say no. Optimize your looks and read the situation well. There's a dude in this sub who preaches asking for consent for everything and it cracks me up every time I se…
/r/seduction30/09/22 02:41 PM
2

Jesus christ bro lol. Well okay to answer your question, the easiest way to find out a girl's age if she looks under 30 is to just ask her what year of college she's in, then do the math: 17 + whatever year = their estimated age.
/r/seduction30/09/22 02:35 PM
1

Sounds like you're not very engaging during the dates, but it's hard to diagnose the problem without knowing more.
/r/seduction30/09/22 02:31 PM
0

It’s a bar I take tinder dates too, I don’t try pick up women there. I know, that's what I'm saying. The staff seemed fine with bringing different people there! Nobody made any comments about how you keep bringing different girls?
/r/seduction30/09/22 12:33 PM
12

Interesting. I usually avoid going to the same bar so the staff don't realize what I'm up to, but you're saying it's been working out well for you?
/r/seduction30/09/22 03:25 AM
6

Looks definitely help and make things easier, but you still need self-confidence and game to make it happen.
/r/seduction30/09/22 03:23 AM
1

It's because crypto bros think it's a flex and think that girls will assume they got money
/r/seduction29/09/22 10:01 PM
6

Nah, nothing wrong with double texting.
/r/seduction29/09/22 04:50 PM
7

Have a drink, get to know each other, and then invite her over to yours at the end when your drinks are almost finished.
/r/seduction29/09/22 01:16 PM
1

Is it safe to say most women date with the intention of finding something serious? No, lots of women just want to have fun too. So just how do you date casually and sexually, without the constant pressure of a relationship being around the corner? Just keep her at an emotional distance, treat her as a friend that you fuck rather than a partner. Do you simply reveal this position early on: "I want to date casually and see how it goes", the question of sex being an open question? If she asks, yes,…
/r/seduction29/09/22 01:11 PM
1

so many people hide behind glorified profiles, heavily filtered photos and a texting personality which is entirely different to real life - you'll meet girls off there and be more often than not dissapointed. Not my experience.
/r/seduction29/09/22 12:53 AM
3

Location matters 100%. I get more matches the bigger the city is.
/r/seduction28/09/22 07:24 PM
1

And here I thought you were going to give it another chance 😉
/r/seduction28/09/22 07:24 PM
1

You need more passions than just pickup, but nothing wrong with pickup being one of those passions.
/r/seduction28/09/22 03:50 PM
11

Girls love dogs, this is nothing new haha kudos to you for figuring out a way to utilize him as an excuse to bring them back to yours though
/r/seduction28/09/22 02:12 PM
4

Don't know why you're getting so much hate. I think this shower thought is pretty accurate, despite its simplicity.
/r/seduction28/09/22 08:04 AM
1

Yep, achieved it.
/r/seduction28/09/22 08:03 AM
1

Just suggest going back to hers at the end of the date instead of going back to yours. I do that sometimes, works out most of the time.
/r/seduction28/09/22 08:02 AM
1

Dm me, let's connect.
/r/seduction28/09/22 12:37 AM
2

Ahaha yeah I'm moving to Mexico for a few months and changed my location on bumble in advance and now I've got so many matches and girls lining up to meet me before I've even stepped foot in the country lmao OLD is a game changer for sure
/r/seduction28/09/22 12:35 AM
4

Rules 1 and 2 are big for sure, especially to pull the kinds of numbers I pull haha, but that doesn't mean success can't be found if you don't have the face. As long as you have an average face (i.e. you're not ugly), you can make up for it with a good body and good photos. The photos are honestly the biggest part. Before I optimized my photos, I didn't get many matches. I think the key is to go into it with an optimized profile and no expectations. Doesn't take all that much time out of your da…
/r/seduction28/09/22 12:11 AM
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I like it. My night game is still a work in progress and even though I get more than enough action from OLD, I still wanna be sharp on the occasions I do hit the bars/clubs so this is killer insight, thank you.
/r/seduction27/09/22 11:39 PM
3

Question for you since I got you here: what's your typical cold read opener? I know that's your go-to approach so just wondering if you have one you use fairly consistently or if it really is all context-based.
/r/seduction27/09/22 11:14 PM
1

Honestly wasn't expecting that haha thought native East Asians would be more reserved in bed!
/r/seduction27/09/22 10:53 PM
23

Well sure, this is assuming she has her own place or is living with roomies. If she says she lives with her parents, then OP should pull an uno reverse card and invite her to his city.
/r/seduction27/09/22 05:30 PM
2

What was she like in bed compared to western girls?
/r/seduction27/09/22 04:41 PM
100

Ask her if you'd have a place to stay if you came to visit. If she says yes stay with me, it's game on. If she says get a hotel, forget about her.
/r/seduction27/09/22 03:49 PM
8

More like 75%. Can't get 99% unless you're a celebrity.
/r/seduction27/09/22 01:42 PM
36

I never escalate more than a hug at the start of the date and then 1.5 hours in, I invite them over and the majority say yes.
/r/seduction27/09/22 05:06 AM
67

Don't need to escalate all that much during the date. Invite her over once your drinks are almost finished and escalate at home. If she agrees to come over, that's your sign she wants you to escalate.
/r/seduction27/09/22 04:51 AM
1

Interesting perspective, you may be on to something. Regardless, OP should still seize the moment even if it's just flaunting lol
/r/seduction26/09/22 11:47 PM
2

24 year old was making moves on you when you were 14? There's no damn way lol Anyway sounds like you keep ending up in situations where you could make a move on a older woman (if you're not trolling), you just need to shoot your shot. That or just extend your age range on dating apps to go higher.
/r/seduction26/09/22 11:14 PM
1

Time for new friends bro
/r/seduction26/09/22 06:29 PM
1

😂 😂 😂
/r/seduction26/09/22 11:49 AM
3

Anyone who's serious about finding success on tinder/OLD, look through my post history.
/r/seduction26/09/22 03:36 AM
2

Thank you baby 😘
/r/seduction26/09/22 12:58 AM
3

Please teach me your ways wise master
/r/seduction26/09/22 12:57 AM
2

Precisely 😂
/r/seduction26/09/22 12:55 AM
5

Forgetting our previous conversation already? Ouch you're breaking my heart baby 💔
/r/seduction26/09/22 12:54 AM
7

Says the dude who takes all that "Manosphere" stuff seriously 😂
/r/seduction26/09/22 12:47 AM
1

No, don't do that. If you only let the girl ask questions, she will lose interest fast. Lead the interaction.
/r/seduction26/09/22 12:25 AM
2

She's playing games. Don't play, forget about her and move on to the next
/r/seduction26/09/22 12:24 AM
2

Looks aren't everything. You also need to know what the fuck you're doing.
/r/seduction26/09/22 12:23 AM
13

So, is it all hopeless? Yes, don't even try. Become a monk. Don't you think the game is pretty much rigged from the start? Yes, only Spanish people get laid. Without them coming into your country on exchange, your country's fertility rate would be 0. You're probably Spanish yourself if you think about it. What can one even do? Bow down to your Spanish overlords.
/r/seduction26/09/22 12:22 AM
0

Happy for you
/r/seduction24/09/22 09:22 PM
2

I personally think public is better than private.
/r/seduction24/09/22 09:15 PM
0

I'm sure they already avoid you as-is buddy
/r/seduction24/09/22 09:15 PM
2

If that's how you want to look at it, then yes avoid it. If you instead look at it like a normal person and use it as a social resume to showcase who you are, then you're better off using it.
/r/seduction24/09/22 08:55 PM
1

This just seems like Tinder writ large. In a way, yes IG is like Tinder. You gotta put your best foot forward to make the best impression. Any schmuck can produce content by going out and taking pictures Sure, but is it good content? Probably not. but then all that being equal it's just face game and my face and build aren't worth showing off. Nope, it's about showing people you're a fun, likeable guy to be around. If I have to do squats and cram 5 protein shakes a day to get laid, I might as we…
/r/seduction24/09/22 08:52 PM
6

😂
/r/seduction24/09/22 07:58 PM
5

And that's why you don't get laid.
/r/seduction24/09/22 07:56 PM
1

Right, so use it correctly and you're fine. It's a tool at the end of the day and it's up to you to decide how to use it. If you use that tool to hurt yourself, then you're not using it correctly
/r/seduction24/09/22 07:21 PM
9

stop listening to podcasts in the stupid “Manosphere” Probably the best advice most guys need.
/r/seduction24/09/22 07:18 PM
2

It can be if you decide to poison yourself with it by comparing yourself to everyone you see on it, but that's a mindset issue, not an Instagram issue.
/r/seduction24/09/22 07:09 PM
6

So for number one, I tried on the second and third date. On the third date, she told me not yet despite us being all over each other... If she doesn't say yes after the 2nd date, drop her and focus on other girls, she's wasting your time. I tried to take her up to her room, but she said she is a submissive and she wants a LTR, and if we go up to her condo it would be game over. If you're not looking for an LTR (which I assume you aren't since you're posting here), then forget about her and move …
/r/seduction24/09/22 06:47 PM
4

i know a lot of women like when a guy doesn’t have a huge social media presence cause it adds to the mystique. I literally don't know any women like that. The only time women like when a guy doesn't have social media is when he's a total Chad because it means he won't be getting as much attention from other girls online. but the guy would have to have a solid social circle and solid status as otherwise it may just look like u don’t have friends. Exactly. Most guys don't have all that. If you do …
/r/seduction24/09/22 06:31 PM
6

1 I physically escalated to makeouts on all 3 dates. With each date we get more physically into each other, but after the 3rd date, texting was awkward and that fizzled out. Because you didn't bring her to your bedroom. You were too weak to make a move so she lost interest. Aim to make a move to get her into your bed at the end of the first date and if not, then the 2nd. Show intent, make her feel wanted. 2nd date physically escalated to heavy makeouts in her condo rec room, but I hesitated to e…
/r/seduction24/09/22 06:24 PM
2

I meant, what's your definition of "above average with women", not an above average IG profile. Thousands of followers with a blue checkmark is not above average on IG btw, that's top 5% (top 10% without the blue checkmark). If you hit tens of thousands of followers, that's top 1% and if you're at 100k followers or up, you're top 0.1%. Basically what I'm trying to say is that the bar isn't as high as you think.
/r/seduction24/09/22 06:09 PM
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Maybe they don't utilize IG in their dating life which is why they're doing above average. I guarantee though that if they built up their profiles, they would have a lot more opportunities and would really boost their dating lives. For instance, curious what your definition of above average is? Edit: to answer your question, that sounds like a shitty profile. At minimum I'd say you need at least 9 good photos of yourself (a full grid, basically), and a couple hundred followers for social proof (…
/r/seduction24/09/22 06:04 PM
4

It's only cruel if you decide to see it that way. Maybe she had bad intentions by saying that, but if you weren't bothered by it, then what does it matter? Own it and prove to her that it doesn't affect you. "Never forget what you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor, and it can never be used to hurt you." - Tyrion Lannister
/r/seduction24/09/22 06:02 PM
1

Same. Guys here just don't see the potential that comes with connecting via IG instead of getting a faceless number. Better for guys like us I guess.
/r/seduction24/09/22 05:59 PM
1

It's not though? How exactly is it toxic? Edit: lmao downvoted for asking a legitimate question, never change reddit
/r/seduction24/09/22 05:57 PM
2

Found exactly who I was talking about.
/r/seduction24/09/22 05:55 PM
2

Tell her you saw her on your explore page and thought she was cute so you wanted to say hi. If she doesn't respond, move on, do not try to message her again.
/r/seduction24/09/22 03:07 PM
1

Definitely improve your text game, but the only way to do that is to simply stop overthinking it. Just be yourself and text like a normal human being. Text her like you would anyone else.
/r/seduction24/09/22 03:03 PM
2

i figured id put less thought and effort into it and just be an all around funny, witty and charming anf it worked wonders for me. My texts didnt came off try hard and i was just being myself. That's literally all you need to do. Don't overthink it and talk to her like you would anyone else.
/r/seduction24/09/22 03:02 PM
7

I personally think this mindset of “delete social media” is really weak and cowardly. Social media is a huge status symbol and opportunity to connect with others. 100%. It's a silly cop-out and convenient excuse for people who have nothing going on in their lives. If they were living cool lives, they would understand the benefits of being on social media far outweigh any perceived negatives.
/r/seduction24/09/22 03:00 PM
0

most wanna be seducers actually have no life and think they can solve all of their social problems just by spam approaching women This is exactly it and the reason there are so many social media haters in this sub and on reddit as a whole. They just have terrible social media profiles as a result of having no lives apart from reddit and video games. Fix your life first, then showcase it on social media when it's cool.
/r/seduction24/09/22 02:57 PM
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You're better off building up your social presence than going off the grid, but if the options are have a shitty profile or none at all, choose the latter.
/r/seduction24/09/22 06:13 AM
6

Yeah girls who make guys wait more than 2 dates for sex are only shooting themselves in the foot.
/r/seduction23/09/22 09:16 PM
1

Take a look at my post history and reach out if you want.
/r/seduction23/09/22 07:14 PM
1

I don't invite girls straight over as a first date. As a second yeah, but we're already quite comfortable with each other by that point. Hard to tell if there's a chance, but I'm inclined to say no.
/r/seduction23/09/22 06:14 PM
1

I mean that’s what I was kinda trying to do with continuing the conversation with a flirt and tease about my one comment but I guess she might’ve took it the wrong way, idk. Don't overdo the flirting before you've even gone on a date with her. It's needy, desperate, and tryhard. But I also was one of the first guys she matched with so maybe she found someone better in her eyes for her “free” day. Nah, you likely just scared her off. Don't even think of other guys she might be talking to anyway, …
/r/seduction23/09/22 03:53 PM
2

"hey how's it going"
/r/seduction23/09/22 03:26 PM
1

Oh I thought you were asking about the confirmation text. Yeah, if I've just set the date, I either continue the conversation based off of something we already discussed or that's in their profile, or I wait until I'm at the halfway point between when I set the date up and the date itself and just ask how their day/week/weekend is going and have a little conversation based off of that, as I specified in my original comment on this post.
/r/seduction23/09/22 03:21 PM
1

What would you say after “even better, let’s have dinner and wine over my place” Her: “yeah that sounds like fun” "How does 6pm sound?" "Sounds great" "Okay can't wait, see you then!" I meant re-engaging a day before the date. She left me on read before the flaking happened I usually re-engage the morning of the date: "Hey how's it going? We still good for tonight?"
/r/seduction23/09/22 03:13 PM
1

I feel he gives solid advice since he focuses on having a flirty vibe and focuses on the girl’s comfortability. Obviously not working for you though so maybe it's not good advice after all haha About after making the plans. You need to be more specific. Give me a prompt and I'll tell you what I'd say. And if she left you on read, how you would re-engage like I did If she left me on read after flaking on me, I would move on to the next girl dude lol
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:58 PM
1

Heard of him, don't care much for him or pay attention to him. Best to be natural over text, not tryhard. What would you have said in my situation? Which situation? You gave me a bunch 😅
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:52 PM
1

You're supposed to keep it chill and casual until you've fucked her, yes. Otherwise you come off as needy and desperate, especially to hot girls who get tons of attention already. You probably started to sound like all those other needy and desperate guys who try to slide in her DMs all the time. You're treating her like the prize when you should be seeing yourself as the prize. I sent her a text saying I picked up all the ingredients for our romantic evening tomorrow and she flaked saying she c…
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:45 PM
2

Then you made it too sexual too soon. Don't say shit like that until you've already fucked her.
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:35 PM
1

I will admit, I try to be a little more careful about what I say to them than those I don’t care about There's your problem. I told her “hopefully I won’t be too much of a distraction for you (;” and got left on read Have you already fucked her or not yet?
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:29 PM
1

It’s mainly the girls I find very attractive and want to see them that are the ones flaking I would wager this desperation in seeing them indirectly (or maybe even directly) comes out in how and what you text them. You need to treat those girls like you would any other, not put them on a pedestal.
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:15 PM
1

Yeah, I get that. But girls say shit they don't mean all the time. Or things they haven't actually given thought to and only really give it thought once it's a reality. So don't worry about it too much.
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:13 PM
5

I’m another thread someone mentioned she may want to hook up with Spanish dudes and me going with her would make it like a lovers week in Spain vs her being free to do what she wants. Exactly why I personally love solo traveling haha
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:08 PM
1

Look bro, you came to reddit asking for other perspectives to understand what's happening and we gave them to you. If you don't want answers to your question, then don't ask it? You said this is a consistent problem for you. This means it's not something to do with the girls, but rather with you. The logical conclusion is your texting game is weak because you're trying too hard, but if you don't want to believe that, then so be it. Don't get annoyed at redditors trying to help you though. I trie…
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:07 PM
13

She might still be thinking about it, but if she truly was looking for someone to join her and she didn't dislike you for whatever reason, she wouldn't be taking this long to get back to you. Don't dwell on it too much, keep it casual/chill, and live your life. If she does get back to you eventually, great, but if not, then check in on her during her trip asking her how it's going.
/r/seduction23/09/22 01:43 PM
1

The same way you'd start a conversation with any other gender.
/r/seduction23/09/22 01:37 PM
2

If you think seduction is tricking people into having sex with you, then you've got an extremely flawed view of seduction. Like i need to go to the gym, build a great body, make sure my face looks handsome, have good hair, shoe lifts for height, have a good job, earn money and then try to convince (seduce) a girl to like me? like isn't that just stupid? I need to try and trick and seduce a women to like me? It's not tricking them if they are attracted to you. If you don't do those things, how do…
/r/seduction23/09/22 08:10 AM
2

Sounds like you're forcing daily text conversations and they're getting weirded out by it. You don't need to text daily, keep it casual. Don't go cold turkey on them either though. If there's a few days between when you asked them out and when you're taking them out, just ask how their week/weekend is going sometime in between and have a little conversation based on that. That's all that's really needed to maintain the attraction before the date. Anything more is bordering on overkill.
/r/seduction23/09/22 08:05 AM
10

True. You only treat the ones who deserve to be treated like that. The rest you reverse the script on and let them treat you like a king.
/r/seduction23/09/22 07:59 AM
2

Note that I said fit, not skinny.
/r/seduction23/09/22 07:58 AM
1

Oh okay yeah it makes sense now.
/r/seduction23/09/22 07:57 AM
2

Don't think I've ever seen someone switch between pronouns as much as OP did, regardless of where they're from.
/r/seduction22/09/22 11:46 PM
12

Are you talking about a girl or a guy? You keep switching pronouns. Regardless, you got way too invested in this person. Spamming them with messages when they weren't even opening them? Sending them flowers anonymously? Cringe bro, you became a simp for someone who completely ignored you. Next time, if the person doesn't respond to your initial opener, forget about them and move on. Doesn't matter how "high value" they are.
/r/seduction22/09/22 10:50 PM
2

You're not wrong!
/r/seduction22/09/22 08:41 PM
1

What I'm trying to say is maximize your physical appearance first before you worry about trying to game.
/r/seduction22/09/22 08:07 PM
403

If you treat her like a queen, and she loses feelings. She never saw you as her king. Wonderfully said.
/r/seduction22/09/22 07:55 PM
2

Oh wow you're still here? I admire the dedication to the bit, but at a certain point, it's just embarrassing bro. I'm sure you got other people to troll
/r/seduction22/09/22 07:49 PM
5

Lol nice troll bro, here's your upvote. Now go back under your bridge. Edit: just to be clear, I never once denied the power of confidence, but to claim your physical appearance doesn't play any role in seduction is completely asinine.
/r/seduction22/09/22 07:44 PM
4

Can you send me the link to your "obese seduction" course plz? I can't see why you'd peddle such bullshit ideas otherwise 😂 "girls actually don't have any physical preferences, as long as you're just confident, you can smash anyone you want" is a pretty bold take bro lmao
/r/seduction22/09/22 07:32 PM
3

Lol ok bud
/r/seduction22/09/22 07:24 PM
7

Oh, confidence will definitely boost your results no matter what, don't get me wrong, but a fit body is objectively more physically attractive to women than a chubby one and will give you many more opportunities with them to begin with. Remember, your appearance is what gets your foot in the door. Your game (including your confidence) is what opens it. (not to mention that being fit makes being stylish much easier too, which is the topic at hand)
/r/seduction22/09/22 07:19 PM
6

Best men's fashion guide: google "stylish men casual" and adopt those outfits/looks into your wardrobe.
/r/seduction22/09/22 06:44 PM
12

If you're chubby, that's your first problem. Fix that before thinking about style.
/r/seduction22/09/22 06:44 PM
28

Was a beginner when I discovered this forum. Took several years, but have improved my game significantly since.
/r/seduction22/09/22 04:47 PM
2

Sure, although nothing is wrong with making it one of your primary focuses as I said earlier. As long as you have other focuses too, you have a good enough balance. If it's your only focus, then yeah there's a problem.
/r/seduction22/09/22 04:26 PM
5

I wouldn't call it a need. More of a want. I'd equate it to traveling. I don't need to travel to new cities/countries, but I want to because it's fun as fuck. Same thing with seduction. I feel the same rush when I explore a new place as I do when I seduce a new girl.
/r/seduction22/09/22 04:21 PM
10

Not my only focus in life, but definitely one of the main ones. Definitely agree that you need other goals, passions, and hobbies in life to be attractive, but it's not a bad thing to include seduction as one of those hobbies, especially if you want to seduce lots of women.
/r/seduction22/09/22 04:13 PM
18

I'm looking for advice on how to handle a girl who seemed interested but suddenly stops talking to you. You move on to the next one.
/r/seduction22/09/22 01:33 PM
0

Oh yes please answer his extremely vague and low effort question master. Show us how it's done.
/r/seduction21/09/22 11:28 PM
2

You went on a couple dates and didn't smash? Sounds like she got bored of you since you didn't escalate.
/r/seduction21/09/22 09:11 PM
27

You're supposed to not give a single flying fuck.
/r/seduction21/09/22 05:52 PM
5

I'm not angry honestly I'm just confused and sad af I've been crying all day at work. Oof
/r/seduction21/09/22 05:49 PM
2

I do it pretty successfully 🤷 If she goes out of line, I drop her and go for other ones.
/r/seduction21/09/22 05:15 PM
4

Ok that explains it completely then. She saw your empty profile, assumed you were a loser, and forgot about you. I would stick to numbers from now on and work on building your profile up in the meantime (if that's something you want to take advantage of in your dating game, which is what I'd recommend).
/r/seduction21/09/22 04:55 PM
6

Or add her to your roster and continue dating other women 😉
/r/seduction21/09/22 04:52 PM
2

Not true. IG is fine, you just gotta make sure your profile is on point or else you will fall flat. Number is a safe bet though.
/r/seduction21/09/22 04:50 PM
27

Don't try to understand women and their actions. You will end up pulling your own hair out more often than not. Women operate on emotion, not logic. She likely felt emotionally high when meeting you, but then the next day came off that high. Or maybe your IG profile is shit and she wasn't into it. Who knows? Doesn't matter. Either way, best way to do it is to always go into it with low expectations. Expect that a girl will pull shit like this when you talk to her. That way, when she doesn't and …
/r/seduction21/09/22 04:36 PM
1

Nothing to do with ego, I'm just over seeing this antiquated mindset of "tExTiNg Is BaD" being repeated on this sub over and over again when it simply isn't true. Glad you could understand the point I was trying to make though. I hope the best for you brother. Appreciate it! Likewise.
/r/seduction21/09/22 04:23 PM
1

You're making my point though. They had other ways of gauging your personality. Not just from "letters on a screen". Right, because that's what good texting is. If all you're doing is sending them letters on a screen, then like I said earlier, you're doing it wrong. That was literally the point I was trying to make. Nope, you're trying to say you can't build a connection on texting, which is false. The first girl (who you haven't met, mind you) had your IG story to go off of. She can create a st…
/r/seduction21/09/22 04:04 PM
1

Well yeah because texting isn't just letters on a screen anymore dude. You still using a flip phone or something? Lol
/r/seduction21/09/22 03:36 PM
1

They've both heard my voice, first one only through IG stories, never directly from me in a conversation. Second one I've met in person and fucked several times. She also plans to travel with me.
/r/seduction21/09/22 03:23 PM
1

Sigh, okay here's an initial conversation with a girl that I matched with on a dating app when I was in Texas, but then she flew to South Carolina for work so we never ended up getting the chance to meet in person while I was there: omitted We have spoken extensively since, no facetimes or in-person meetups, and now she's planning to travel with me. This is but one example of many where I've built connections with girls over text only. At the end of the day, texting is just another form of commu…
/r/seduction21/09/22 03:04 PM
2

Can't really give an example of how it works to someone who's never been able to build a connection with anyone outside of a face to face interaction.
/r/seduction21/09/22 02:03 PM
2

Rule of thumb, it's almost impossible to build sexual tension or to build a connection via text. No it's not lmao you're just bad at it
/r/seduction21/09/22 01:46 PM
1

I know intelligence is a turn on for most women No it's not. No girl is going to get wet over you talking about rocket science lmao. Emotional intelligence, however, is a turn on for women.
/r/seduction21/09/22 01:42 PM
1

TRAVEL
/r/seduction21/09/22 01:40 PM
12

Gotta love these low effort posts that make this community so great 🥰
/r/seduction21/09/22 01:39 PM
2

Okay, but how are you going to keep those friends you make if you don't get their contact info? Lmao
/r/seduction21/09/22 04:35 AM
4

I have not experienced unresponsive and emotionless women in North America via text. They don't fall in love with me, but they most definitely aren't robots either.
/r/seduction20/09/22 11:24 PM
1

I'm just keeping it simple and logical bro. Seduction = the enticement of someone into sex. Therefore, sex on the 1st date is more efficient seduction than sex on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or whatever. That's it. You're the one being excessive about it here lol.
/r/seduction20/09/22 10:14 PM
1

How is it the wrong metric? You admitted the end goal is sex. Getting it on the 1st date is more efficient than getting it on the 4th or whatever. How is what I said wrong?
/r/seduction20/09/22 09:45 PM
1

In that case, please refer to my previous comment for a response to this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/xhl1pj/unpopular_opinion_most_men_are_totally_okay_with/ip8x9eu?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
/r/seduction20/09/22 09:30 PM
1

Seduction is quite literally the act of enticing someone to have sex with you, so yes, it is the most important end goal. You might be looking for a different subreddit, perhaps r / dating?
/r/seduction20/09/22 09:22 PM
2

Fair point. Inefficient way of getting it done, but all the power to him if that's the way he wants go about it.
/r/seduction20/09/22 09:19 PM
2

You should be focusing on yourself until you're in a better place before you're even interacting with women in a romantic context.
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:58 PM
1

Yeah but what does getting a number do for you if you get ghosted? Not exactly a layup that's brag-worthy.
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:43 PM
4

Time to work on your verbal game. Ask her about herself and her passions/interests. Ask follow up questions based on what she tells you. Share relevant stories to establish a connection, etc.
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:42 PM
1

What's your opener and follow up message for these matches?
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:38 PM
1

Well yeah, otherwise what's the point of cold approaching?
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:34 PM
23

I feel like some of the advice people still give about texting is very "early 2000s". That's exactly what it is and guys who still parrot it in this day and age are guys who don't actually get many girls and simply spout "theory" from their favourite mentors online. The fact of the matter is girls live on their phones now and if you're not keeping in touch with them + using text/socials to maintain their investment, they are going to forget about you and lose interest in you, especially if you j…
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:30 PM
1

Yeah numbers that ghosted you lol is that what you consider a layup?
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:16 PM
1

Why you even calling them in the first place? That's needy beta simp behaviour. Real men with game wait for the girl to chase them, not the other way around.
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:12 PM
1

Yeah, if they're approaching you, but you're the one approaching them and even calling them + leaving voice messages. Needy beta simp behaviour much? 😂
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:09 PM
1

Says the one who claims he doesn't chase girls 😅
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:04 PM
1

Ew you're approaching women and even calling them + leaving them voice messages? Beta chaser smh real men with game don't do anything at all to get girls, they get chased by the girls already.
/r/seduction20/09/22 05:58 PM
1

That's a weird assumption to make
/r/seduction20/09/22 05:45 PM
1

Well duh, I'm the one that wrote them
/r/seduction20/09/22 05:41 PM
2

Those are not layups lmao
/r/seduction20/09/22 03:06 PM
2

IG is way more personal. There's a face to go alongside the letters on the screen and you can stay connected easier with stories. I keep in touch with dozens of different girls around the world over months at a time thanks to IG that I would never be able to if I just had their number. Some of these girls I haven't met yet, but we built a strong connection thanks to IG and they plan to visit me on my next trip. What it sounds like to me is your IG profile was never very good. That's a major fact…
/r/seduction20/09/22 03:05 PM
1

You're right. Never initiate a conversation or do anything to push an interaction along. In fact, you shouldn't be approaching women, they should be approaching you. Otherwise you're just another chasing loser.
/r/seduction20/09/22 03:00 PM
1

agree to dates, without much rescheduling, postponing, etc. be interested in me and my goals respond sexually to flirting (or rather not back out of it) Additionally, we will have a good conversation flow - she will pick up the conversation if it withers down (but that is again the fact that she is interested in me). Girls do do all these things if they're interested in you. What it sounds like is most girls aren't interested in you.
/r/seduction20/09/22 02:58 PM
4

If you call the dude that fucks her her fan, then yes.
/r/seduction20/09/22 07:03 AM
1

Probably balls tbh
/r/seduction20/09/22 01:36 AM
2

Best compliment for a stranger: love your smile, you've got a great vibe
/r/seduction19/09/22 08:23 PM
1

Oh, that's what you mean. Yeah, they have more life experience to combat it in their 20s compared to in their teens for sure.
/r/seduction19/09/22 08:21 PM
2

Well they start to get the trouble once they've become hot.
/r/seduction19/09/22 08:14 PM
1

But how would they know you are interested in something more than friends if you're not making moves?
/r/seduction19/09/22 06:09 PM
5

I wouldn't know anyway as I ask for their IG, not number
/r/seduction19/09/22 05:23 PM
2

Mostly dating apps. Optimized my look and profile to get multiple matches a day.
/r/seduction19/09/22 05:08 PM
19

I would say work on your mental health first and foremost, don't focus on girls until you're in a better place.
/r/seduction19/09/22 05:07 PM
41

I find that giving my # requires less investment than asking for one because I don’t have to get invested by planning to follow up It also limits your opportunities as many girls won't just chase you so you'll miss out on a decent number of them. and it removes obligation from my end unless they’re almost certainly interested. In other words, you're trying to avoid rejection as much as possible. I think you're better off facing rejection head on to get used to it. If you keep avoiding it, you'll…
/r/seduction19/09/22 04:45 PM
2

When the girl throws herself at you, it's just not as rewarding as when there's a buildup and you "earn" it. Same with most other things in life.
/r/seduction19/09/22 04:40 PM
1

Maybe not relevant to OP's topic, but I was just asking you because I'm curious about it.
/r/seduction19/09/22 04:09 PM
2

I don't waste my time with girls who play coy lol.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:38 PM
1

Don't give her any more energy than she gives you.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:37 PM
1

I know, I've experienced that many a time. That's why I give it 2 dates if she says no the first time, but I'm still going to shoot my shot on the 1st date because half of them do wanna fuck.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:37 PM
2

That's a safe way to do it for sure.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:15 PM
47

When it comes to dating, don't waste your energy on girls who aren't into you, simple as that.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:13 PM
2

Missing out on easy lays then
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:12 PM
0

The chase is what makes the game fun.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:12 PM
2

She might have been interested at the start, but you guys just weren't compatible. I've been in that experience, currently have a friend like that actually. Works wonders when we go out together as it gives me instant qualification from other girls.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:11 PM
6

And those are always the wife material girls because they are hot without the ego that usually comes with it if they were hot growing up too.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:08 PM
3

Yep, anyone who does otherwise is a simp.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:06 PM
3

Good point. Explains why guys in some cultures have a reputation of being overly pushy, they need to be because the girls make them chase it.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:06 PM
26

I agree with you, but a lot of guys, especially in this sub and on reddit, lie to themselves because they're thirsty and lack options. A girl gives them some attention and they latch onto it, becoming simps and trying to do whatever it takes to keep her, believing the more they try, the more likely she'll come around. It's not as uncommon as you put it.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:04 PM
2

Don't try to befriend them mid-dance. Catch them when they are taking a break and ask them basic questions like how long they've been dancing, where they learned, etc.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:59 PM
1

Don't waste your energy on girls like this. Move on and talk to other girls.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:56 PM
1

100%
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:55 PM
2

Yeah I give it 2 dates. First only like I said, if I have multiple girls I'm taking out all week and don't really have time to schedule 2nd dates, like this week.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:54 PM
1

Him bro.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:53 PM
2

That's exactly what this is.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:49 PM
1

Oh wow. Are you Mormon or something?
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:48 PM
1

Well said.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:47 PM
2

Very true, if we didn't shame women for sex in society, then they would be so much more open to sex on the first date because let's face it, they wanna fuck as much as we do at the end of the day.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:46 PM
1

What should it be like then?
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:45 PM
2

Well put. To clarify, we walk in the door, both take off our own jackets and shoes because that's what you do when you enter a house, then I just go in for the kiss, one hand on the side of her neck, the other on her hips.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:43 PM
3

I agree, but there are a lot of women who have a personal rule not to fuck on a first date, no matter how attracted they are to you. If you met them at the club on a night out, they might be dtf, but that's a different scenario to first dates. Some girls even extend that rule to 2nd dates or are going through something, but those are less commonplace and I usually drop them if that's the case as I am not interested in dealing with that.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:38 PM
2

only guys with less options or when you really really like the girl are willing to wait . Well put. Methinks OP is the former and is just trying to come up with justifications/excuses for it.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:33 PM
3

If only every girl thought like that, would make everything so much easier lol. Can totally relate with girls who have made me wait longer than 2 dates for sex, it was almost always meh, nothing special and not worth the wait. Super vanilla and reserved. Gimme those freaks in the sheets please.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:31 PM
2

My relationships don't even begin if she isn't putting out 😂 Also, all relationships fail eventually so that's a non-point.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:28 PM
5

Dude is in a seduction subreddit talking about how he doesn't want to seduce 🤦 Makes me think he is just saying all this as an excuse for having poor game tbh.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:25 PM
1

Are you sure you're in the right subreddit? Doesn't exactly sound like you're trying to "seduce" women...
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:24 PM
2

If I don't have it by the 2nd, I give up. Hell, if I have multiple girls I'm taking out at the time and she doesn't put out on the 1st, I'll drop her lol.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:22 PM
7

How do you ask them to come back to your place? Once our drinks are about to be finished (usually 1-1.5 hours to the date), I use this question sequence: "do you like wine?" Answer is usually yes. If it isn't, I ask what kind of drinks are their fave and continue accordingly. "what's your favourite type of wine?" Her: chardonnay/riesling/pinot noir/cab sav, etc. "have you ever tried malbec before?" (that's my fave wine) Her: yes/no What I ask next depends on whether or not I already have wine at…
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:11 PM
1

😂
/r/seduction19/09/22 01:57 PM
2

On a first date, definitely a turn off
/r/seduction19/09/22 06:52 AM
4

Fair points, didn't think of it that way. I just think back to when I was still learning game where I focused heavily on sitting next to the girl and tried to find excuses to physically escalate leading to awkward encounters and no 2nd dates. I think sitting across from girls forces newbies to train their verbal game and improve it to the point where everything flows smoothly and physical touch isn't really needed. Otherwise they focus too heavily on randomly touching her which could make them c…
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:44 AM
1

Awesome!
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:31 AM
10

Oh okay yeah didn't realize you were changing venues. I do agree that's a good time to go for then. Basically, major transition points in the date. My only venue change is back to my place, but I see your method working too!
/r/seduction18/09/22 10:20 PM
122

I agree to an extent: Hug and smile at the start? For sure. Light touch on the back when leading through the venue? Sure, but not needed. Sitting next to her? Totally unnecessary. I rarely sit next to girls on dates and almost always bring them home after. Don't need to physically escalate at the table, focus on mentally escalating; building rapport and connection. The sexual tension will build naturally and the release is bigger when you finally do physically escalate back at your place. As for…
/r/seduction18/09/22 09:47 PM
3

Defs unpopular, I wanna fuck lmao
/r/seduction18/09/22 09:28 PM
2

Idk man, I don't read women's brains
/r/seduction18/09/22 01:56 PM
3

Don't need to bring it up unless they do.
/r/seduction18/09/22 01:55 PM
3

Leading them on is telling them you're looking for a relationship when you're not.
/r/seduction18/09/22 01:54 PM
1

Then maybe it's just your outer game. Girls are likely just saying that to be nice
/r/seduction18/09/22 03:09 AM
1

Then something is off with your game, likely both inner and outer
/r/seduction18/09/22 02:55 AM
1

Lower your standards
/r/seduction18/09/22 02:46 AM
1

I'm 29 now, game really picked up when I was 22
/r/seduction18/09/22 02:45 AM
0

That's not hookup culture, that's fuckboy culture. Hookup culture is when people go on dates without the specific intent of finding a relationship and just want to see what happens. They are just having fun and enjoying being single. Sometimes they see one person for only one date, sometimes several. The pleasure is mutual.
/r/seduction18/09/22 12:37 AM
-3

What's the idea you have of it in your head?
/r/seduction18/09/22 12:21 AM
5

In the way you did it, yes
/r/seduction18/09/22 12:12 AM
-3

How can you say you do not believe in hookup culture if you've never had sex? Lol you haven't even experienced it before.
/r/seduction18/09/22 12:06 AM
6

This post is all over the place lol
/r/seduction18/09/22 12:05 AM
2

Please do not use the mystery method for game
/r/seduction18/09/22 12:04 AM
9

Can't tell if this is a troll post or not, but if not, my advice is don't do any of this ever again lol it will not make you feel good in any way.
/r/seduction18/09/22 12:03 AM
21

Don't do it, you really don't need to stoop that low. You don't need to be upfront about just wanting to keep things casual, but don't lie about it either.
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:48 PM
19

You're probably not as attractive as them. Everyone finds Margot Robbie attractive, but she doesn't find everyone attractive. Improve your attractiveness to get more reciprocal attention.
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:47 PM
4

If you want a better dating life (and it sounds like you do or else you wouldn't have made this post), then yesterday.
/r/seduction17/09/22 05:02 PM
2

Otherwise, it's manipulative! Not manipulative, just a more inclusive idea than a movie. The girl knows sex is on the table, she's coming over to your place ffs. It's just more suave to cook than simply "watch a movie" which is super low effort and will turn a decent amount of those girls off since it's just a fuckboy move. And if you feel manipulative when doing it, then you're doing it wrong. Maybe because you spend about an hour in the kitchen whereas you could be directly escalating from the…
/r/seduction17/09/22 04:39 PM
3

Curious why your results differ with a movie vs cooking? I find cooking builds rapport better and also gives the girl a justifiable excuse for coming over "oh, we're just cooking dinner", meaning more girls would be down for it. It's also more fun and creative as a date idea. A movie has sexual connotations to it (Netflix and chill) so only those who are directly dtf would be up for it. The others would feel uncomfortable with it and think you're just trying to get your dick wet. Also, a lot of …
/r/seduction17/09/22 04:15 PM
4

Yeah I mean the more you focus on yourself and your own self improvement, the more chances you'll get with women as the ones who don't mind disabled guys will see your confidence and swagger. If you focus on trying to pick up women though, you'll just end up disappointed and depressed because the vast majority will disqualify you from the start. Go be the best person you can be and some girls will enter your life eventually as a result.
/r/seduction17/09/22 03:45 PM
4

I don't mean to be rude here, but you're playing the dating game on hard mode bro. I would focus on other life pursuits if I were you man, having a physical disability is going to limit you severely as most girls will not want to deal with that.
/r/seduction17/09/22 03:23 PM
3

Now you go look for another girl to sleep with.
/r/seduction17/09/22 03:21 PM
2

Lol what? So easy to establish lots of touch during the cooking process and then you make the sexual moves after. And it's best to have sex on an empty stomach. Okay, that's very pedantic, but you do you lol. Inviting her to see a movie always had a higher success chance for me. Okay, then just do that?
/r/seduction17/09/22 03:20 PM
1

Yeah I'd agree
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:59 AM
1

Would be weird if you were lol
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:54 AM
2

Lucifer Morningstar.
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:53 AM
1

A lot of incels in this sub for sure, but I've done pretty well for myself in combatting them.
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:52 AM
1

How does that work if I weigh less than 150 lbs and don't have arms, a chest, or abs?
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:49 AM
1

Nah, haven't been to the gym in 3 years lol
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:46 AM
2

Go for it. Be sure to check my post history too, made a whole post explaining what you need to have a good profile.
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:45 AM
1

It was someone else, I was occupied the last few hours with 2 girls lol
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:43 AM
1

Is that the mentality that you think I have?
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:43 AM
1

What mentality are you talking about?
/r/seduction17/09/22 03:24 AM
1

Well I don't really go here for those advanced topics tbh
/r/seduction17/09/22 03:19 AM
1

Well sure, there are still seduction milestones I want to reach, but they are more advanced than most of the topics discussed on this sub
/r/seduction17/09/22 03:13 AM
2

So don't use it if it doesn't work for you then?
/r/seduction17/09/22 02:55 AM
3

Lol trying to help others get to the same point as me ✌️
/r/seduction17/09/22 02:53 AM
4

The money is in keeping guys who can't get matches swiping. I don't pay them any money lol
/r/seduction17/09/22 12:58 AM
12

Been my best friend for the past few years. Been with over 70 different girls as a result of them over the past 2 years alone. Love being single so OLD works out perfectly for me lol
/r/seduction17/09/22 12:43 AM
1

You can text her the next day, not needy or whatever. See if she's down for cooking dinner together as your next date. Then it's an easy lay.
/r/seduction16/09/22 11:05 PM
3

Yeah I was thinking this might also be a foreign culture type thing
/r/seduction16/09/22 05:01 PM
1

Maybe your outer game isn't on point and she didn't find you attractive so this was her innate reaction. Childish, but that's the only thing I can think of maybe apart from your delivery since your opener was decent enough (although I'd remove "I know people don't usually do this" from it, makes you seem weak)
/r/seduction16/09/22 04:12 PM
29

Well fucking said OP. So tired of seeing all these weak "men" in the comments who have nothing more to offer than complaints about their height, race, looks, baldness, and/or other unchangeable disadvantages. It contributes nothing to the conversation and nothing to their own personal development when it comes to game.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:24 PM
14

Perfect analogy.
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:21 PM
3

casual relationships are generally easier to pursue while you are abroad or on holiday. This is because both parties understand from the get go, and without stating explicitly, that anything will unlikely lead to a relationship given the temporary nature of you being there and distances involved. Yep, you got it. Or do you pursue casual relationships in you own city all the same? Yeah because why not
/r/seduction15/09/22 01:39 PM
9

Also be careful about going outside without your hazmat suit. You don't want to get radiation poisoning.
/r/seduction14/09/22 07:20 PM
4

You focus on yourself until you're at a point where you start to get attention from girls, then you shift your focus to improving your game.
/r/seduction14/09/22 11:41 AM
2

Truer words have never been spoken. Unfortunately though, they will fall on deaf ears in this sub. Lots of comments are already trying to justify why what you're saying doesn't apply to them. Hopefully you get through to some of them though.
/r/seduction14/09/22 11:40 AM
3

No, it's a movie trope that doesn't translate to real life. People who are "mysterious" or hide who they are in real life are just seen as weird by girls.
/r/seduction14/09/22 11:34 AM
2

Just find an easy recipe online, cooking doesn't have to be difficult.
/r/seduction14/09/22 12:53 AM
2

Best 2nd date idea is always cooking dinner together at yours/hers.
/r/seduction14/09/22 12:49 AM
1

Damn bro, you got lucky and played your cards perfectly. Well done!
/r/seduction13/09/22 07:07 PM
2

Just drive and don't order more than 2 drinks max.
/r/seduction13/09/22 07:05 PM
5

Means she wants you to smash her then and there
/r/seduction13/09/22 07:02 PM
3

He's focused on race because many people on this sub use it as a crutch. He's trying to show that it's not.
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:50 PM
3

Girls are the same. They can be vile to each other and that's what makes them insecure about themselves, not anything guys say or do.
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:47 PM
4

"if I can't get girls, then no one else can, therefore this post must be fake"
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:43 PM
3

And yet he does
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:41 PM
3

It is when you understand how much South Asians struggle in the dating world
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:38 PM
3

No way bro, everyone knows the best way to get women is to cry about your height on reddit /s
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:36 PM
2

Curious why you think that?
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:32 PM
1

Cool story bro
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:31 PM
2

Ah ok fair enough, so it's a long-game play. Cool, thanks for sharing!
/r/seduction13/09/22 03:13 PM
9

How do you guys approach very hot girls or at least considerably more attractive than you in an online context? By not even thinking about or comparing myself to other guys she may or may not be talking to. I just focus on myself and treat her as I would any other girl. I have noticed though that lots of those super hot girls aren't my type personality-wise since they're used to being spoiled all the time and that's not my vibe.
/r/seduction12/09/22 08:22 PM
2

Fair enough! Happy scrolling and I wish you a great rest of your day then. Thanks for the chat!
/r/seduction12/09/22 08:18 PM
5

I'm not sure what point there even is to make. We're in a seduction subreddit sharing tips about seducing. You're the one who has admitted to not even being in the dating market to begin with, coming in talking about how difficult society is. You're missing the point of this subreddit.
/r/seduction12/09/22 08:14 PM
5

Ok and? What are you going to do about it? Change society? Lmao. Complaining about it isn't going to get you anywhere, either play the game by the rules or find another game to play.
/r/seduction12/09/22 07:50 PM
10

News flash: women don't owe you anything bud. If you want to attract them, you have to be attractive to them, end of story. If you don't have your shit together, then focus on that before you even think about trying to get women.
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:37 PM
13

I mean, I'm white and I haven't experienced that - I have no problems with women. I think it's hard to generalize like that, but yes either you be a victim or you own it. If you want to find success, you choose the latter.
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:58 PM
24

Smh when MFs here expect to get girls when they have nothing to offer lmao
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:55 PM
43

Everyone is going to look for the easiest excuse they can find to explain their failures rather than work on finding success.
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:54 PM
22

Read the rest of the post. He explains how race affects things and how to use it to your advantage.
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:53 PM
1

Best to ask someone else who is a non drinker, I don't have an answer for you on that.
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:20 PM
1

Yeah, but cafes and dessert spots are just less sexually conducive than bars so first date lays are a little more challenging.
/r/seduction12/09/22 04:45 PM
28

This post needs to be pinned. Amazing write-up bro and kudos to you for breaking out of that crab bucket. It sounds like a large part of your game has been capitalizing on travelers who are visiting NYC for a short period of time, just based on the fact that your number one nationality has been Italian (unless you're grouping Italian-Americans with them), would you say that's accurate? Curious to know what your experience with locals has been like and if you've had any struggles there, consideri…
/r/seduction12/09/22 04:33 PM
0

For sure, I'm just asking what your strategy is to get them in bed after all that.
/r/seduction12/09/22 02:53 PM
4

100%. That being said, some women do just want you inside them asap so you gotta find that balance. Best way is to play with their clit as you make out with them until they are wet enough, checking for that periodically by fingering them. Once they are, it's game on.
/r/seduction12/09/22 02:49 PM
1

Nah, he's 100% right.
/r/seduction12/09/22 02:45 PM
1

I would run lol. A girl who asks that on a first date where you guys didn't even fuck is a red flag haha. Even if you guys did fuck, that'd be a red flag. Next!
/r/seduction12/09/22 02:43 PM
1

By breaking up with her and living your own life.
/r/seduction12/09/22 02:41 PM
1

Depends on what kind of life experiences you've had. For example, if you've traveled a lot, then ask about travel. If you don't have much life experience, then a) start getting some, and b) ask about embarrassing moments in college or something.
/r/seduction12/09/22 02:38 PM
1

Keep it simple for the first date (drinks at a bar) and save the fun date ideas for the 2nd & 3rd dates.
/r/seduction12/09/22 02:35 PM
1

That's a very creative and unique first date idea. How do you escalate after the ice cream though?
/r/seduction12/09/22 02:34 PM
3

There is no set rule. If you can pick them up, then go ahead, but there's no problem with meeting them there.
/r/seduction12/09/22 02:31 PM
0

Damn bro, another killer post with great advice!
/r/seduction12/09/22 02:30 PM
4

100%. This post is spot on. This sub can be a real cesspool a lot of the times, especially when someone posts anything resembling success with women. Real crab bucket mentality here. Bottom line is this: most guys on this sub don't actually belong here because they aren't remotely close to actually being able to work on being good with women since they need to focus on working on themselves first.
/r/seduction10/09/22 10:15 PM
2

Yes, that's called flirting
/r/seduction10/09/22 02:34 PM
1

By realizing that you can't change the past, but you can still change the future. Getting hung up over the past is wasted energy. Focus on the present and future and make that what you want it to be.
/r/seduction10/09/22 02:33 PM
6

Hmm I'm getting bad vibes from her, I feel like she's just messing with you, but hard to tell without more context. I'd say tread carefully with this one and push for a date to see if she's serious. And don't do an expensive date either, I get the feeling if she does agree to a date, she will just try to take advantage of you.
/r/seduction10/09/22 02:32 PM
3

Uhhh terrible advice. Don't just randomly kiss her without knowing if the vibe is right. Lots of girls also don't want to have complete PDA in front of a bunch of other people in a cafe on a first date. Spend about an hour building comfort, attraction, and rapport before going for the kiss and make sure the vibe is right before you do too. Otherwise she'll be like "that dude was weird, he tried to kiss me in line at the Starbucks as we were about to order"
/r/seduction10/09/22 02:29 PM
2

Yes of course, it's a balance. You don't want to go full self-depracation mode either as that's going full circle back to insecurity.
/r/seduction09/09/22 07:15 PM
3

Yeah true, I don't agree with OP on announcing your insecurities. However, if you're asked about them, it's better to show you don't care about them than to try to hide them. For example, don't go around telling girls you're a virgin, but if one of them asks you if you are, don't try to hide it either. Just say yeah I am. Stop caring what other people think about you.
/r/seduction09/09/22 03:58 PM
2

But the insecurities in it self are not attractive, most of the time. They aren't, but that's not what we're talking about. I'm saying when you quite obviously are insecure about them and try to hide them or talk negatively about yourself, it makes it even more unattractive than if you were to not give a fuck about them and actually own them as part of who you are. Owning can also be an internal or implicit process, you don't have to address your insecurities in your speech all the time. Never s…
/r/seduction09/09/22 03:48 PM
2

She's not interested, but is trying to be friendly about it.
/r/seduction09/09/22 03:00 PM
20

Owning your insecurities is way more attractive than trying to hide them. This applies to both men and women.
/r/seduction09/09/22 02:58 PM
2

Apart from the introductory hug at the start of the date, I don't get physical at all really until she's at my place. I don't even sit next to her most of the time, like this sub likes to defend to the grave. I sit across most of the time, makes it easier for eye contact and conversation. Sometimes I'll kiss her in the car before we go to mine if I feel like it, but most of the time I'll just wait until she's in the door. Because I've waited that long for any physicality, and knowing she's comin…
/r/seduction08/09/22 03:25 AM
3

Yeah you gotta strike when the iron's hot, not when it's still warming up or when it's melting.
/r/seduction07/09/22 11:47 PM
3

It's more about building comfort and rapport during the actual date. Once it's established that she's coming over, then the sexual tension starts to build and if you wait to act on it until she's at your place, it can unleash like a volcano.
/r/seduction07/09/22 09:56 PM
1

Normally girls from OLD, sometimes strangers in bars though. Rarely friends or acquaintances.
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:33 PM
7

Aim to kiss later in the first date, after you have established rapport and built up some sexual tension. Spend at least an hour getting to know each other and then think about going for the kiss. Ideally, when you're in a position to bring her back to yours. I usually don't kiss the girl or escalate much physically until we're at my place, pretty much immediately after entering and taking off our coats + shoes. Sometimes the sexual tension is enough to lead straight to the bedroom from that, ot…
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:31 PM
3

Bruh if a girl doesn't want to kiss at the end of the first date, I friendzone her lmao don't have time for that middle school bullshit. Same thing if she doesn't want to fuck by the 2nd date max. You went 6 dates without smashing??? No wonder she doesn't feel any chemistry with you, you were too much of a wuss to make a move. You should be trying to get the lay at the end of the first date, don't waste your own time. And if she's not the type to have first date sex, then at least get the kiss-c…
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:25 PM
2

Layed next to each other on the ground (far enough away that I didn’t feel like there was room to make a move without being awkward as fuck) It's only awkward if you make it awkward. Ideally, you ask her to sit on the couch with you and then just go for the kiss then, but if you're in a situation like the one you just described here, all you have to do is make the damn move. Doesn't really matter how far away you are, just get close to her and kiss her. If you continue to think it's awkward when…
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:21 PM
1

Do a short facetime with her to help quell any doubts she might have.
/r/seduction06/09/22 04:26 PM
5

Lmao
/r/seduction05/09/22 10:29 PM
3

If you're in a relationship, you don't get to meet new people.
/r/seduction05/09/22 02:35 AM
2

Casual. Being single is way more fun.
/r/seduction05/09/22 12:40 AM
25

It's anxiety. You'll get over it the more you experience you get.
/r/seduction05/09/22 12:40 AM
1

Maybe your IG isn't on point and girls lose interest when they see it?
/r/seduction05/09/22 12:39 AM
2

Don't listen to that dude. Doesn't matter how many dudes are hitting her up on IG, if she's interested in you, she'll respond to you and want to meet up with you.
/r/seduction05/09/22 12:37 AM
7

Hookups.com
/r/seduction04/09/22 02:15 AM
7

"hey, how about we cook dinner together?"
/r/seduction03/09/22 03:37 PM
6

Cooking dinner together.
/r/seduction03/09/22 03:35 PM
27

I literally never get blocked after an ONS. You're likely just putting out really shitty energy and these girls don't vibe with it. They see you as a random fuck and nothing more. Maybe try going out for a drink with them first before smashing them to build a little rapport and establish that you're more than "a big dick", both literally and figuratively.
/r/seduction03/09/22 02:38 PM
12

Then you chill and make the most of the escalation level she stopped you at. If it's 3rd base, go down on each other. If it's 2nd, get your feel in. And if it's just 1st, make out for a bit. And if she doesn't even let you kiss her, then you've been friendzoned bro lol
/r/seduction01/09/22 09:27 PM
5

Looks-wise, you're a 6 imo. Dating profile picture-wise, your photo is a 7. It's a decent photo, but it could be better.
/r/seduction01/09/22 04:14 PM
1

Found the Trump voter 😂😂😂
/r/seduction01/09/22 03:02 PM
2

Lmao what? This girl is likely going to an all-inclusive resort on the coast. You're more likely to get shot in a shopping mall or grocery store in the US than you are in Mexico.
/r/seduction01/09/22 02:30 PM
1

Observational and cold reads
/r/seduction01/09/22 02:25 PM
0

After how many dates kiss 1 Age of both Irrelevant After how many dates you had sex (optional) Usually 1, sometimes 2, rarely 3
/r/seduction01/09/22 02:24 PM
29

You're overthinking it. If she invited you over, she wants things to happen. Just escalate as you normally would.
/r/seduction01/09/22 02:23 PM
3

Lol how old are you? If you trust her, let her enjoy herself. If you don't, maybe she's not the one for you.
/r/seduction01/09/22 02:21 PM
2

I don't have boatloads of money and I do fine 🤷
/r/seduction31/08/22 03:35 PM
7

It's natural to feel and act this way when you're not used to it. Takes time to adjust. Was in a similar situation when I was 18, started getting attention from girls after I changed my haircut and improved my style when previously I was totally invisible to them. Had no idea what to do with all that attention so I fucked up many initial interactions. Took several years of work to finally develop game and harness that attention to my benefit.
/r/seduction31/08/22 03:21 PM
2

Literally the exact same way you'd meet women in any other country.
/r/seduction30/08/22 03:19 AM
6

Go to meetups, play group sports, learn new skills like languages, dancing, musical instruments, travel
/r/seduction29/08/22 05:59 PM
1

By not being a loner? Be social, make friends, do fun/cool stuff. Doing all of these things will make you a more attractive person and also connect you with more women, giving you more opportunities to date.
/r/seduction29/08/22 05:48 PM
2

I always invite her over at the end of the first date.
/r/seduction29/08/22 03:23 PM
0

Disagree. I get like 90% of my success from OLD. Sounds like you just have a shit profile bro.
/r/seduction29/08/22 03:23 PM
5

Better to have photos of you topless taken by someone else. Like when you're at the pool, beach, or on a boat, for example.
/r/seduction29/08/22 03:22 PM
23

Maybe it's the opposite and they thought you'd be prettier than you are lol
/r/seduction29/08/22 03:20 PM
3

So I decided to do the hug test that I usually do. I turned to her and said “you know what. I am impressed and I feel really special” She “Why?” I “You have groomed and dressed well, all for me. I am feeling special” She started smiling and blushing. I “come her .. give me a hug, I want to thank you”. Ngl, this hug test thing you do sounds super cringe, but it looks like it worked out for you so who am I to judge. Since this is SFW sub-reddit That's news to me. Escalate soon -- Don't wait till y…
/r/seduction27/08/22 10:13 PM
2

Nah, it's the same with android. They save your device ID so you need to use a completely new phone.
/r/seduction25/08/22 02:31 PM
2

Not necessarily. OLD is defs more about image, but I'm just saying you gotta look your best to find success. That doesn't mean be a chad, it just means put some effort into your appearance lol. Same with social circle game.
/r/seduction25/08/22 02:30 PM
1

29.
/r/seduction25/08/22 07:17 AM
1

Can't relate. Seeing lots of 7s, 8s, and even 9s on OLD. Are you swiping in a town of 500 people or something?
/r/seduction25/08/22 06:39 AM
5

If you have game, you don't need to ask, you'll know when the vibe is right. If you need to ask every time, you got some work to do on your game.
/r/seduction25/08/22 02:57 AM
39

You're right, but you also fail to realize that just like sales, the product matters. If your product (you) is shit, nobody is going to be interested in it, no matter how good you are at sales or how many potential clients you approach. You may get some out of luck or because they get bamboozled by your sales tactics, but in general, you will fail at closing deals. However, if your product is super attractive, your closing ratio will be much much higher.
/r/seduction25/08/22 02:56 AM
1

Not about trust issues or playing hard to get, just about making sure you're not just going to randomly send her a dick pic or spam call her right off the bat. Girls deal with dumbass guys all the time, especially the higher quality ones.
/r/seduction24/08/22 09:33 PM
2

The sooner you get her off of Tinder the easier time you’ll have. I agree, I'm just saying some girls won't instantly go off tinder until they know you're not a creepy loser first.
/r/seduction24/08/22 09:11 PM
2

Eh maybe, but we're talking a couple minutes of your time to see whether or not she even is interested in you. Some girls require a little basic conversation to know you're not some loser or creep which is hard to tell from a profile alone. A little back and forth can go a long way with those girls and would give you a lot more options overall. Most high quality girls aren't going to be chasing you due to how many options they have so you gotta be giving them a little attention if you want to ca…
/r/seduction24/08/22 08:50 PM
0

If you say so 🤷
/r/seduction24/08/22 07:24 PM
1

I agree, especially if those people refuse to believe they can be more attractive 🤷
/r/seduction24/08/22 07:03 PM
1

You forget to realize that most guys are able to improve their level of attractiveness.
/r/seduction24/08/22 06:53 PM
1

Sure, based on your level of attractiveness.
/r/seduction24/08/22 06:43 PM
28

Um, yes. You know she's just trying to mess with you because you know it's not true so the only reason you're feeling bothered by it is because you're choosing to feel bothered by it.
/r/seduction24/08/22 06:29 PM
2

Not really no. If you're not socializing, you're not meeting people and if you're not meeting people, you're not getting chances with girls, simple as that.
/r/seduction24/08/22 05:55 PM
2

Light up shot glass necklace (search for it on Amazon). Instant conversation starter and girls love the vibe. Girls will approach me when I'm wearing it and it's not cheesy or cringey or anything, just a fun party prop. Try it out.
/r/seduction24/08/22 05:54 PM
2

Girls like confident and douchey guys so it will only work on your favour if you post pics like that.
/r/seduction24/08/22 05:53 PM
2

I've started to get a lot more 8s and even 9s now as I've been upgrading my profile. Still get the 6s and lower of course, but I just swipe left on those. If you've maximized your attractiveness and your profile is on point, you'll be getting likes from higher and higher quality women, as well as just way more likes in general. I switched my location to back home after traveling for the past 4 months and got 100+ likes overnight, it was ridiculous.
/r/seduction24/08/22 05:51 PM
1

I wait until she's at my place before kissing her and then I do it at the entrance as soon as we've walked in and she takes off her shoes and coat. If she didn't agree to come over at the end of our drink date for whatever reason, then I'll kiss her in the car or in front of her place or in front of wherever we say goodbye at the end of the date, unless the date didn't go well or the vibes are off, in which case we say our goodbyes and that's it.
/r/seduction24/08/22 05:48 PM
6

That's way too late. You need to go for a kiss by the end of the first date for sure. Hell, you should actually be going for the lay at the end of the first date. Don't waste your own time.
/r/seduction24/08/22 05:45 PM
1

IG always
/r/seduction23/08/22 04:22 AM
3

There are others too like Topdeck and Busabout, but Contiki is defs the king for debauchery. Try Topdeck, it's still got the party, but also has some cultural experiences mixed in there too.
/r/seduction22/08/22 08:40 PM
4

Because they are inherently social environments and girls are away from home and therefore more likely to let loose.
/r/seduction22/08/22 08:38 PM
4

Party hostels and pub crawls. Usually for foreigners visiting the city though, not locals. If you work as a pub crawl host, you could probably get some of the action too though.
/r/seduction22/08/22 06:29 PM
2

OP never specified wanting a relationship and this being a seduction subreddit, it can be assumed he's referring to hookups. Most guys here would kill to fuck a trophy wife.
/r/seduction22/08/22 01:44 PM
1

Thanks!
/r/seduction22/08/22 01:36 PM
1

Money talks 🤷
/r/seduction22/08/22 01:36 PM
13

Your theory gets defeated when you look at all those rich ugly motherfuckers who have trophy wives. Not always about looks.
/r/seduction22/08/22 06:22 AM
32

Vienna is beautiful, but it's expensive and Austrians can be more uptight. If you wanted a 3rd city to add to the list, do Krakow instead. Similar vibe to Budapest and Prague, just a little smaller.
/r/seduction22/08/22 02:23 AM
17

Lmao found the guy who's never left his country 😂
/r/seduction21/08/22 11:46 PM
114

Budapest & Prague. Easy to get laid there at hostels and pub crawls without breaking the bank.
/r/seduction21/08/22 08:19 PM
1

Video games
/r/seduction21/08/22 08:18 PM
6

Most girls will not set up a date during the evening just for safety reasons. Not in my experience. All my dates are evening drink dates, I never have an issue getting them and if you are, maybe you're giving off a questionable vibe that makes them feel unsafe with the idea of meeting you in the evening. Regardless, I'm impressed by your ability to pull after breakfast. Never even would have considered that it was possible so kudos to you for figuring out a way to do it. On average before I met …
/r/seduction21/08/22 04:12 AM
2

If anyone's splitting hairs, it's you. You're the one coming into a post literally titled "how to get laid" and complaining that people are giving ONS advice lmao
/r/seduction17/08/22 02:13 AM
7

Because girls are pickier than guys are. You gotta up your game if you want a chance.
/r/seduction16/08/22 01:50 PM
2

Sure, but this sub is literally called seduction. I.e. Entincing people into sex.
/r/seduction16/08/22 04:52 AM
3

Explain exactly how you would write out a direct and sincere message that you want them to stop messaging you that doesn't make you sound like a dick please. Slowly letting them down is much nicer.
/r/seduction14/08/22 07:09 PM
2

Not if you're trying to be polite though like OP is. It's extremely difficult to not sound like a rude dick when you are direct and sincere about not wanting to talk to them anymore.
/r/seduction14/08/22 06:58 PM
5

Came here to say this. Not sure if there's an official term for it, but I've seen it called soft ghosting before. Long story short, this is the best way to do it.
/r/seduction14/08/22 02:57 PM
1

You're in the wrong sub bud, this is r seduction, not r dating
/r/seduction13/08/22 07:08 PM
7

They do it because it's easier than dealing with the confrontation that many guys will give them when they are honest about why they aren't interested in them.
/r/seduction11/08/22 03:29 PM
1

I know you personally can't, I'm just refuting your argument that it's not possible for anyone who didn't have experience in their 20s. Anyway, this conversation isn't going anywhere. I feel pity for you and hope you find some kind of solution for yourself, whatever it may be.
/r/seduction11/08/22 03:11 AM
1

Well being in a big city is a major factor and he doesn't pull ugly chicks, look at his post history. Just saying it's possible to change your life around if you make the right moves.
/r/seduction11/08/22 03:01 AM
1

Look at 5_7pickup. He was able to figure it out.
/r/seduction11/08/22 02:55 AM
1

Maybe you should get off this sub then, doesn't seem like it's helping you.
/r/seduction11/08/22 02:46 AM
1

There's more to life after your 20s. I'm 29 and getting better and better every year.
/r/seduction11/08/22 02:43 AM
1

Ok yeah that's not ideal. Maybe you should forget about chasing girls until your situation improves because I don't see it happening right now. Play video games or something to pass the time.
/r/seduction11/08/22 02:36 AM
1

Oh damn yeah that's a big problem. You need to move to a big city asap.
/r/seduction11/08/22 02:13 AM
6

By meeting more and more people from them until you get desensitized to it. Try to go on as many first dates as you can per week.
/r/seduction11/08/22 02:04 AM
1

For your body, have you tried working with a dietitian and personal trainer to achieve the results you're looking for? Diet is like 70% of it when it comes to working out and a personal trainer will know what you need to do in order to get the body you want. As for your social circle, I recommend attending social events to work on your social skills. I'm talking meetup events, classes to learn new skills (improv, language, and dancing classes are some of the best), and other similar settings whe…
/r/seduction11/08/22 01:58 AM
1

I mean, there are steps you can take to improve your situation...
/r/seduction11/08/22 12:49 AM
1

Oh damn yeah not to be blunt, but you have a lot of work to do before you can think of trying OLD...
/r/seduction11/08/22 12:44 AM
1

Are you talking looks-wise? Or body? Or lifestyle?
/r/seduction11/08/22 12:29 AM
1

You don't know how far redditors will go. All the help you need is in my posts bro. Feel free to DM me your profile and I can critique it for you if you want.
/r/seduction11/08/22 12:13 AM
-1

Just take a look through my posts on this sub and then tell me I don't know what I'm talking about
/r/seduction10/08/22 10:56 PM
0

Lmao I know, hard to believe when you have no game.
/r/seduction10/08/22 10:39 PM
2

Not sure what you mean? I slept with all of them and they all came from dating apps.
/r/seduction10/08/22 10:13 PM
1

Oh definitely, several of them.
/r/seduction10/08/22 10:09 PM
2

It's alive and well for me buddy, been with 28 different girls this year from dating apps alone. It's not the apps, it's you.
/r/seduction10/08/22 10:01 PM
1

Bookstores and nerd conventions
/r/seduction10/08/22 05:13 PM
1

Yeah that's why you stick to cheap first dates. 1 drink (that you take your time with) at an average bar and then invite her over.
/r/seduction08/08/22 04:42 PM
3

Very easy: Ask her where she went to school, what she studied, and when she graduated. Normal conversation topics and if she says she already graduated, you're golden since that means she's at least 21+ since most people start uni at the age of 18 and graduate 4 years later. If you only care about her being at least 18 and don't really care about her actual age, then just the fact that she's in uni means you're good to go (with the exception of her being in her 1st year - see below). However, if…
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:25 PM
3

You don't necessarily need friends to get laid, but having friends will help for sure, especially if you want more than one night stands.
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:15 PM
4

1) It's totally normal for most first dates to not go to 2nd dates. It's not necessarily a reflection of you. It's actually kind of rare for 2 strangers from the internet to click in person. Don't take it personally. This is true, however as you improve your game, you can increase the rate at which your first dates lead to second dates. Over 50% of my first dates lead to second ones now. 2) You have to make your own closure. It's rare for the other person to bluntly tell you what went wrong. Of …
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:13 PM
3

I'm willing to bet it's because you just don't have good pics. Feel free to DM them to me for critique if you want. I've gotten over 100 lays from OLD so I've cracked the code.
/r/seduction07/08/22 02:25 PM
5

As the top comments already say, because they're with different guys every time and Don't want to be getting a bunch of questions from people like "who is that?" and Want to avoid losing attention from other guys who might think she's a whore or already with someone else I do the exact same thing as them, just with the roles reversed, and if your game is on point, you'll be doing it too.
/r/seduction04/08/22 04:05 PM
12

In other words: "I suck at cold approaching"
/r/seduction02/08/22 02:52 PM
1

Sounds like your text game is weak
/r/seduction01/08/22 04:55 PM
1

Just comment on one of her stories and start a convo based off that
/r/seduction01/08/22 04:54 PM
3

If she doesn't want to see you again because you invited her over at the end of the first date, then she likely wasn't going to fuck you on the 2nd either.
/r/seduction01/08/22 04:53 PM
1

A major city in Canada.
/r/seduction01/08/22 03:11 PM
1

Don't do it. Girls will never give you honest feedback about why they didn't like you. It's a waste of energy and will also misguided you because when they do give you feedback, it's often not the actual truth so you'll be focusing on the wrong things.
/r/seduction01/08/22 02:26 AM
3

Yep, exactly. Guarantee the other dude is just a virgin loser with no friends whose IG profile is complete shit and turns off girls so he has to resort to pretending he's cooler than he actually is when he approaches them.
/r/seduction31/07/22 01:59 PM
2

Thanks bro, likewise! You'll need it.
/r/seduction31/07/22 01:56 PM
2

Lol I exclusively ask for their IG and I guarantee I get laid more than you. If that makes me an autist, then I'm happy to be one 😂 If a girl doesn't want to give you her number and you're not willing to connect on IG, then your chance with her is over then and there. If you connect on IG, you still have a chance with her. It sounds like you're just a loser with no friends and a terrible IG profile lol, same with the idiot in that article.
/r/seduction31/07/22 01:52 PM
1

I can still get a good feel for a girl's "intellect" when we grab a drink. The act of her putting food in her mouth doesn't provide any more data points I would need to know if she's just a pretty face or not. She's still interacting with wait staff and using the same body language (except for her using a fork to raise food to her mouth). The cost of the food/drinks also doesn't change any of that either.
/r/seduction31/07/22 12:55 AM
2

Yeah my first date is always just a drink at a bar, usually less than $10 per drink and I often split the bill with the girl too. Doesn't really affect my lay rate, most of them still end up going home with me or seeing me a 2nd time. A small amount of them will get turned off by it, but if they do, it's totally fine because that's not the type of girl I want to get involved with anyway so it kinda acts as a filter for me. A restaurant as a first date is just asking for trouble. Way too high of …
/r/seduction30/07/22 11:57 PM
2

Sure, but I'm just saying you can still make IG direct.
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:50 PM
3

It's worked for me on women in their 40s too.
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:24 PM
3

IG can be just as forward if you ask the girl out before you ask her for her contact info.
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:18 PM
1

Ima go a step further and say no first date is worth more than $20 lol
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:16 PM
1

It's the price to pay when you date a 10. She's going to get attention from other guys, full stop. Be happy she's choosing you as her exclusive partner and accept that other guys will talk to her, hit on her, hold her by the waist, etc. If you try to stop her from going out with her girlfriend, she will dump you so take it for what it is.
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:05 PM
8

I just say "heyy what's happening (her name)? Love your smile, you've got a great vibe ✌️" Works like a charm. Girls love "vibes" and shit.
/r/seduction30/07/22 06:52 PM
10

100%. All the guys here who are hating on IG are missing out on a much better texting experience.
/r/seduction30/07/22 06:50 PM
2

Damn bro, that mindset is limiting. Most girls just use IG to keep in touch with friends, only wannabe influencers act the way you describe.
/r/seduction30/07/22 06:49 PM
11

IG 100%. Unless your IG is trash, in which case go for the number. Also, IG is more personal than texting since you can see her face. Getting her number is just words on a screen. Also, you're not "competing" with a bunch of dudes on IG. It's just a medium of communication. If she's into you, she will respond to you. Just because you have her number doesn't mean you aren't still "competing" with all the guys in her DMs.
/r/seduction30/07/22 06:47 PM
3

"the seduction secret women DON'T want you to know"
/r/seduction30/07/22 06:45 PM
2

Oh, yeah you should
/r/seduction27/07/22 02:38 PM
2

You're trying to figure out how to text even less than that?
/r/seduction27/07/22 02:29 PM
1

You do you bro
/r/seduction22/07/22 05:17 PM
1

Hence reading the situation right lol
/r/seduction22/07/22 11:55 AM
4

I've hooked up more in this calendar year than I did in all my college years combined. Don't worry, things will get better provided you're improving your game.
/r/seduction21/07/22 02:55 PM
33

I've never asked lmao I just go for it when the vibe is right.
/r/seduction21/07/22 02:53 PM
6

You can, but it's unnecessary since both of you already know you were checking each other out.
/r/seduction20/07/22 04:46 PM
6

"hey how you doing?"
/r/seduction20/07/22 04:26 PM
1

Defs the Borat mankini
/r/seduction20/07/22 03:15 PM
1

It's not farcical, but if your game is non-existent, it won't matter.
/r/seduction20/07/22 03:15 PM
21

She's waiting for you to kiss her
/r/seduction20/07/22 03:14 PM
2

Somehow OP didn't think of it lol
/r/seduction19/07/22 12:59 AM
17

Because you get lots of sex
/r/seduction18/07/22 09:57 AM
2

I definitely include some light teasing and joking in the conversation for sure
/r/seduction17/07/22 04:42 PM
2

Fair point. The younger girls, especially those 18-20 in America, would be more likely to go to yours for the first date since they're unable to go to a bar.
/r/seduction17/07/22 05:39 AM
0

Whatever you say bro 🤷
/r/seduction16/07/22 04:50 PM
1

Yeah I explain what you need to get dates from the apps. I'm saying you're overthinking how to act on the date itself. As OP explains, it's not complicated.
/r/seduction16/07/22 04:28 PM
0

Nah, you're just overthinking it bro
/r/seduction16/07/22 04:04 PM
2

Nah bro, I don't use any bullshit PUA methods and kill it on dates using the exact method OP gave.
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:47 PM
1

30 min drive at most for a first date. If it's guaranteed sex, I'd probably up it to 45 mins, maybe 1 hour.
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:23 PM
2

Bahaha this girl just tried to come up with a reason to bring him over and he just shut it down instantly 😂. OP should have just said sure, then when he got over to hers, just gone for the move before even having any drinks. Or if some more warmup was needed, just say he'll have water/juice/whatever these non-drinkers drink and continue gaming normally.
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:19 PM
6

News flash: being "able to talk in a non contrarian, non weird way about travel, food, her story etc" IS building rapport and attraction with her.
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:16 PM
-15

Start drinking. You're only limiting yourself otherwise.
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:14 PM
-5

Start drinking. You're only limiting yourself otherwise.
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:14 PM
1

You're overthinking it, but if you're really concerned about it, just say "some wine" instead of a bottle of wine.
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:13 PM
32

Well said. There's a bit more to it such as maximizing your attractiveness to get the date in the first place and making sure your logistics are on point too (your own place that's not too far away and isn't a mess + not scheduling the date too late), but otherwise you hit the nail on the head. I use that exact strategy on all of my first dates and it works like a charm. And if she doesn't want to come over or if she does, but doesn't want to fuck, just be cool about it and plan for a 2nd date. …
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:09 PM
43

Terrible advice, you'll only get low quality girls doing this and lose out on chances with high quality girls who are respectable enough not to go to a stranger's house on a first date. Just go for a drink near your place (only 1, the date doesn't need to last longer than 1.5 hours at most) before inviting them over.
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:06 PM
2

If you're not getting matches, it's because your profile sucks (and/or you haven't maximized your attractiveness yet). If you're not getting dates, it's because your text game sucks. If you're not getting laid, it's because your actual game sucks.
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:02 PM
3

Yeah, recipe for disaster lmao that dude has no idea what he's talking about.
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:00 PM
1

Yeah, my conversation rate is higher. After my opener, I usually ask how their week/weekend is going/was, have a short convo about that, then say "hey, we should grab a drink, what do you think?". When they say yes, I then grab their IG and set up the date there.
/r/seduction09/07/22 01:32 PM
1

Lol didn't say games, I said game. I.E. your seduction skills.
/r/seduction07/07/22 02:01 AM
1

Check out the last post I made in this sub, I outline the types of photos you should be taking
/r/seduction05/07/22 01:38 PM
1

If you're not willing to do what it takes to get women, then you have to accept that you won't get women.
/r/seduction05/07/22 01:37 PM
2

And it's not only about looks either, you gotta be living an attractive life too. That doesn't mean drive fancy cars and fly first class, it means look fun and interesting to know and be around.
/r/seduction04/07/22 08:58 PM
2

Because it's fun. And I just take basic remote corporate jobs like project management, marketing, event management, product management, etc.
/r/seduction04/07/22 07:06 PM
2

100%. People who complain about it either haven't maximized their attractiveness, are insecure about how they look, are socially inept, are boomers, or all of the above.
/r/seduction04/07/22 07:04 PM
8

Sounds like your game needs some work then
/r/seduction04/07/22 06:58 PM
3

Okay then practice abstinence? Don't why you're telling me about it lol
/r/seduction04/07/22 05:09 PM
4

Yeah if he wanted to get around, being on social media would just make it easier for him.
/r/seduction04/07/22 05:08 PM
1

Yeah I get tested every 3-6 months. And sure, I might get one eventually even with condoms, but that risk is so low and inconsequential, I would be a fool to live my life in fear over it.
/r/seduction04/07/22 05:06 PM
5

Well I'm currently roadtripping across the US, but I was also nomading across Canada in 2021.
/r/seduction04/07/22 05:01 PM
0

Nah bro, that's what condoms are for.
/r/seduction04/07/22 05:00 PM
-1

I recommend you read through the posts I've made on this sub, I explain my app + first date strategy
/r/seduction04/07/22 03:47 PM
14

Yeah man I'm currently at 53 with a month to spare, meaning at least 1 new girl a week. Basically, I've perfected my app strategy and travel a lot so I'm meeting new girls all the time.
/r/seduction04/07/22 03:44 PM
2

Yeah if OP really wants to go the extra mile with the condom, he should put a drop or two of hot sauce in it before tying it up and throwing it in the trash. That's what Drake does.
/r/seduction04/07/22 03:38 PM
68

Guys typically aren't as tuned into social media as girls are. It means he's probably a good catch since he won't be getting attention from girls online.
/r/seduction04/07/22 03:15 PM
3

Yeah, use common sense. Don't wear blazers or pick outfits that look super out of place. There are lots of good photos in those results where their outfits are stylish, but still casual, which is what you want to be going for. Most of the guys in that forum are old fucks, the rest look fine though so I don't know what you're talking about. Anyway, I can tell you're not open to advice so ima just dip now. Good luck out there bro ✌️
/r/seduction04/07/22 02:29 PM
38

I'm almost 29 and having the best year of my life game-wise. Smashed over 50 different girls in the past 12 months, a new personal record for me. It gets better bro, provided you're improving your skills.
/r/seduction04/07/22 02:24 PM
5

Any brand which is "thin" or "ultra sensitive" will be just as good.
/r/seduction04/07/22 02:23 PM
4

Being bi/gay is seduction on easy mode. Just go to gay bars and get on Grindr.
/r/seduction04/07/22 02:22 PM
15

She's 100% using you, but if you're enjoying it, then no harm no foul. Just don't expect a committed relationship and always wear a condom.
/r/seduction04/07/22 02:19 PM
3

Won't mean anything. Liking their posts and commenting on their stories are better indicators of interest.
/r/seduction04/07/22 02:18 PM
3

Better advice: google "stylish men casual" and dress like that.
/r/seduction04/07/22 02:13 PM
154

It's a balance. That advice is useful to those who make pickup their only mission when they go out as it brings them down a notch. You wanna be out enjoying yourself, but still approaching and being social.
/r/seduction04/07/22 02:12 PM
5

Read how to make friends and influence people
/r/seduction04/07/22 02:10 PM
1

You from Alabama by chance?
/r/seduction04/07/22 02:10 PM
2

Is there a rule of when to ask for the date? Within the first 5-10 messages Should I be asking in a specific way? "Hey, we should grab a drink, what do you think?"
/r/seduction04/07/22 12:00 AM
2

Ok yeah, that explains it.
/r/seduction03/07/22 03:51 PM
1

Curious, what was your body count?
/r/seduction03/07/22 03:44 PM
2

It makes total sense. A lot of girls, especially those with thousands of followers, will miss the fact that you followed them (if their profile isn't private) so sending a few likes their way ensures they can't miss you in their notifications. I've had girls do it to me, just never realized its usefulness the other way around until now. Will start doing it every time I follow a new girl now, lost a few girls in the past because they missed my follow so I'm curious to see if this changes anything…
/r/seduction03/07/22 03:01 PM
2

Interesting that spam liking their pics would actually be a good thing, thanks for sharing.
/r/seduction03/07/22 01:54 PM
1

Get a personal trainer
/r/seduction03/07/22 01:50 PM
1

London, Barcelona, Prague, Lisbon, Budapest
/r/seduction03/07/22 01:49 PM
3

So? If she saw you there's plausible deniability that you've seen her too.
/r/seduction02/07/22 06:15 PM
1

Lol wut? Your post says she told you she keeps seeing you a lot around campus? Which is it?
/r/seduction02/07/22 06:01 PM
2

Stop caring what people think of you.
/r/seduction02/07/22 05:56 PM
4

Lol neither. Just say "hey what's going on? Pretty funny how we keep seeing each other around campus"
/r/seduction02/07/22 05:55 PM
27

Asking them what they studied and when they graduated is the best one. If they started uni at the age of 18 like most people, then they'll likely be 22 when they graduated so if they say 2020, then they're probably 24. If they're still in school, ask what year they are. And if they say they're in high school, run away. Edit: or even better than asking, cold read her. For example: "you totally look like you majored in psychology". Let her correct you.
/r/seduction01/07/22 06:51 PM
5

😂 😂 😂 Don't know what he did to you, but this shit is hilarious lmao
/r/seduction01/07/22 02:49 PM
1

A girlfriend that you've never even kissed, now I've heard it all.
/r/seduction01/07/22 04:44 AM
1

Just an fyi: this subreddit is like 95% guys so you might not get the answer you're looking for. Best to ask on dating_advice or another subreddit with more women in it.
/r/seduction01/07/22 04:42 AM
2

Lol yeah exactly. Being normal is already more attractive than all these simps lmao
/r/seduction30/06/22 10:08 PM
-2

I love the apps, get most of my lays from them Edit: no idea why people are down voting lmao just sharing my experience
/r/seduction30/06/22 09:53 PM
1

Bruh idk what you're talking about. Dating apps work great for me
/r/seduction30/06/22 09:52 PM
0

I don't trust you, but whatever you say bro.
/r/seduction29/06/22 12:37 PM
2

Google "stylish men casual" and dress like that. As for the glasses, yes it will help. Otherwise you will always be seen as a nerd.
/r/seduction29/06/22 12:16 PM
3

By becoming attractive. This means lose the glasses, get ripped, get a better hairstyle, wear more stylish clothing, and pick up some cool hobbies.
/r/seduction29/06/22 12:08 PM
1

Sounds like you need to accept that you won't get results until you do then. If you're in college, consider living on campus in a dorm. That will drastically improve your chances. Hell, even just getting a place with roommates. College girls are very easygoing with that sort of thing. They aren't when you still live at home though. As for where to meet them, go to college/frat parties. Goldmines for getting laid.
/r/seduction29/06/22 09:17 AM
1

Look at my post history.
/r/seduction29/06/22 08:40 AM
3

I just comment on their stories. If they don't give me any responses, I move on to the next girl.
/r/seduction29/06/22 08:39 AM
1

Work on getting your own place first and foremost.
/r/seduction29/06/22 08:38 AM
1

That's about accurate.
/r/seduction29/06/22 08:37 AM
1

It's normal for people who are insecure. Sounds like you should work on your confidence.
/r/seduction29/06/22 08:37 AM
1

Read it in senior year, can't remember much of it, but I'm sure I've implemented much of it in my own game. I'm 28 now and have had a record year when it comes to dating so while I wouldn't attribute all my success to that one book, I'm sure it played a role.
/r/seduction29/06/22 08:36 AM
6

Text game just refers to not fucking up your chances with girls after getting their contact info and being able to set up dates. Your strategy of minimizing the interaction via text is a good one and seems to work well for you.
/r/seduction29/06/22 08:33 AM
6

It means she's not worth your time. Next.
/r/seduction29/06/22 08:28 AM
2

Welcome to the friendzone my friend.
/r/seduction29/06/22 08:27 AM
14

Grade 8? Jesus christ. Ask her if she wants to play on the playground with you lmao
/r/seduction29/06/22 08:27 AM
2

I don't understand your point lol
/r/seduction29/06/22 08:18 AM
2

Best peacocking item for nights out: a light up shot glass necklace. Google it. People love that thing and it's a great conversation starter.
/r/seduction28/06/22 11:16 PM
2

By not negging them in the first place?
/r/seduction28/06/22 11:15 PM
3

This is a lot of effort to put into a shitpost. Don't know if it's impressive or pitiful.
/r/seduction28/06/22 11:13 PM
8

"Yeah I totally get that, no worries. Let me know when you want to make plans again" Then you forget about her and focus on other girls. If she reaches out again later, make new plans with her but if not, just forget about it.
/r/seduction27/06/22 03:13 PM
1

Alright bro, keep holding on to the hope then lol. I'm telling you, even if she is a tiny bit interested, acting this needy will just turn her off.
/r/seduction26/06/22 03:23 PM
2

Idk man, I use IG for stuff like this and it works great. Maybe someone else here can offer a texting strategy for you.
/r/seduction26/06/22 03:02 PM
2

No you're not, she said that to be nice. You guys haven't made any concrete plans and even if you do, she will flake, I 100% guarantee it.
/r/seduction26/06/22 03:01 PM
1

No, don't fake it till you make it. Focus on making yourself attractive first.
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:59 PM
2

Pretty much this.
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:58 PM
7

Start with friends first bro.
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:57 PM
5

Falling on deaf ears bro. This sub will never accept that attitude and mindset can actually make as much of, if not more of a difference than looks.
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:57 PM
2

She's not interested bro. Next.
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:54 PM
2

Get her IG or snap and check her stories. Girls usually post when they travel somewhere.
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:51 PM
3

I actually do the opposite. I don't post any girls on my stories or feed to avoid having other girls that I'm seeing or planning to go out with potentially get upset about it. It works really well for me as I date and fuck a lot of girls.
/r/seduction22/06/22 12:53 PM
3

I think she's acting way too erratically for you to take her seriously. A party is a good place to meet other girls so you should defs still go, just don't expect anything from that girl and focus on meeting other people. It's weird that only a few people are going to the pool and extra weird that she invited you after the way she's been acting with you. You can always attend with the frame of just being friends with her and being social to meet her other friends if you wanted to go to a pool.
/r/seduction22/06/22 12:47 PM
2

People don't want to believe that success is possible. It makes them feel better when they can't achieve it.
/r/seduction20/06/22 11:17 PM
-4

I know, hard to believe if you have no game.
/r/seduction20/06/22 02:35 PM
5

This man knows what he is talking about. Great post OP!
/r/seduction20/06/22 01:43 PM
-7

Bro if you're above average, you can clean up on dating apps. You very likely just have a shit profile and shit photos. I get multiple likes a day on the apps and have slept with over 100 women from them. Take a look at my last post for info on what makes a good profile or reach out if you want help.
/r/seduction20/06/22 01:18 PM
2

It's not so much what you say, but how you say it. Your vibe is more important than your words.
/r/seduction14/06/22 02:50 PM
1

I don't see China and India shooting up elementary schools 🤷
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:37 PM
1

If that's how you want to look at it 🤷
/r/seduction13/06/22 02:21 AM
1

Reach out if you're looking for help.
/r/seduction12/06/22 01:43 AM
3

Man, I can teach you game for 10% of what they made you pay
/r/seduction12/06/22 01:41 AM
6

Use this opener for every girl from now on: Heyy what's happening (her name)? Love your smile, you've got a great vibe ✌️ It's what I use every time and it works every time. After they say thanks, they'll either bring up a topic of discussion from your profile or give you a compliment in return. Then you just ask them how their week/weekend is going, have a little chat about what you been up to or what fun plans you have, then say "hey we should grab a drink soon, what do you think?". When they …
/r/seduction12/06/22 01:13 AM
2

What's your opener?
/r/seduction12/06/22 12:23 AM
1

Take a look at my last post and let me know if you have any questions
/r/seduction12/06/22 12:22 AM
1

In the majority of the cases, I doubt it's an intentional shit test. I think you and most other guys here are overthinking it. When this happens, it's most likely usually just the girl thinking it would be fun to get a group together for the night. It's a mindset thing. You guys are choosing to feel "disrespected" by this instead of just adjusting to the different social situation you're in. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter as much as you think it does and if it does, then that's a you p…
/r/seduction11/06/22 04:52 PM
2

Lmao okay bud, I'm sure you got 10 girls on speed dial waiting by their phones for you to call them up last minute at 8pm on a weekday so they can come over at your beck and call. News flash, if you have to pay for them, it doesn't count 😂 Even if that were my case (not prostitutes though), I'd still probably choose being social and making 10 new friends. Better than fucking a random hole last minute, but I guess making friends is a hard concept for you to grasp so I understand why you'd prefer …
/r/seduction11/06/22 02:45 PM
2

If the alternative is to go home and jerk off, I'd pick being social and making new friends any day. The fact that you choose to do the former says a lot about you and your level of game. Good luck to you out there bro ✌️
/r/seduction11/06/22 02:27 PM
-1

If you would have read my comment, you would already know my answer to your question. Since you struggle with reading, I'll summarize it for you. Yes, I would love to meet 10 girls at once. Chances are, at least one, if not most of them, would like me, giving me even more opportunities to pull later on. And even if I don't get with any one of them specifically, if they like my vibe, they'll invite me to hang out again in other social settings, giving me even more opportunities to game with their…
/r/seduction11/06/22 02:16 PM
2

The girl isn't the one expected to lead the interaction so it's not the same. You've still got a lot to learn bro. You should work on your inner game.
/r/seduction11/06/22 02:10 PM
0

I can guarantee I get more than you, buddy.
/r/seduction11/06/22 02:08 PM
0

Not what I said, learn to read.
/r/seduction11/06/22 02:07 PM
2

Then if she's not interested in you, you forget about her and focus on other girls.
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:59 PM
5

There is no script. Just agree and exaggerate. That's the way to beat shit tests.
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:58 PM
2

If you're trying to meet women while traveling, you need to go to where they will be. They aren't going to show up to your hotel room (unless you called them and plan to pay them for it). So to answer your question, yes you should go out drinking if you want to meet women while traveling.
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:56 PM
1

Contrary to what most other guys here are saying, you kinda were the asshole. She gave you a vibe test and you utterly failed it. Should she have given you a heads up that her friends would be there? Absolutely. Does it really matter that she didn't though? Not really. If you were on top of your game, you could have easily turned the situation into a great one by simply being social and making friends with her friends. You could have shifted your mindset from "this is a date" to "this is a night…
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:54 PM
3

This is the right answer. All these other guys in the comments saying she's a bitch for doing that and that OP did the right thing by leaving are inexperienced and don't know what they're talking about. This was a vibe test and OP failed it. If he was on top of his game, this wouldn't have been a big deal at all.
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:40 PM
1

I'll tell you right now, she won't tell you why she ghosted you. And even if she does give some reason, it won't be the honest one. Best to forget about it and move on to the next one.
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:31 PM
5

OP's new ebook title: How to seduce women for psycopaths
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:30 PM
1

Don't compliment at the gym, makes you look desperate. She already knows she's beautiful and knows she's probably already getting ogled by most guys there, no need to tell her that. Also, saying things like "not to make it awkward" will instantly make it awkward. Don't voice things like that. Also, don't unnecessarily discredit yourself. Saying "I doubt it" after she said your attempt to pronounce her name wasn't bad isn't going to help you. You displayed insecurity instead of confidence in that…
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:28 PM
3

How do I meet women? Dating apps and going out, mainly.
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:13 PM
1

Go to social events to build up your social skills. Things like group sports, dance classes, language exchanges, etc. Go with the intention of being social, not to game.
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:11 PM
0

Nah, but I'm turned off by losers like you who feel the need to voice their dumbass sexual preferences in pointless posts like these on reddit lmao.
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:08 PM
1

By finding an open relationship.
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:06 PM
1

By finding an open relationship.
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:06 PM
5

Think about it this way. That girl could call up any one of her previous partners if she wanted to, but instead she's spending time with you. She's preferring your company over guys she's already fucked. That's gotta mean something.
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:05 PM
28

I prefer bars, especially those that have a dancefloor since it's kinda like getting the best of both worlds.
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:03 PM
1

If you weren't interested in her, why does it bother you that other guys were trying to game her?
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:01 PM
3

I am still working out on trying to get muscular but idk if that will help much. It will. My first photo is a crop out family pic so maybe it’s “bad quality”, but I doubt that’s the main problem. Maybe not the main one, but a big one. Did you personally get a lot more matches after getting in muscular shape? You do, provided your photos show it. Or is my algorithm fucked up? Nah, more than likely your profile just sucks. That and you haven't maximized your attractiveness yet. Take a look at my l…
/r/seduction11/06/22 12:59 PM
2

If it's about OLD, then it's about having a good profile & photos. Unless he's objectively ugly or has some kind of deformity, any average guy can find success on dating apps provided he has maximized his attractiveness, taken good photos, and created a good profile. Even naturally handsome guys need good photos to get matches. It's all about the profile.
/r/seduction11/06/22 12:33 PM
1

It still falls within the umbrella of game.
/r/seduction11/06/22 12:32 PM
2

If it's about OLD, then it's about having a good profile & photos. Unless he's objectively ugly or has some kind of deformity, any average guy can find success on dating apps provided he has maximized his attractiveness, taken good photos, and created a good profile. Even naturally handsome guys need good photos to get matches. It's all about the profile. When I say game, it encompasses dating app game, including profile creation.
/r/seduction11/06/22 12:30 PM
2

I usually wait a few hours before texting, personally. If you're trying to text immediately so that you have them in your conversations list, then another method is to just text them "hey it's JollyEye3" as soon as they put their number in your phone. Then later, you can follow up with asking how the rest of their day was.
/r/seduction11/06/22 12:21 PM
2

Assuming you asked them what they were up to that day during the approach: "Hey it's JollyEye3. How was xxx"?
/r/seduction11/06/22 02:42 AM
1

Why are you texting them nice to meet you and then sending a compliment?
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:39 AM
21

There's a reason they say "good vibes only"
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:32 AM
-5

Okay then what is it?
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:32 AM
1

Look at my last post.
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:28 AM
7

This pua shit has gone too far lmao
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:28 AM
8

Become a pornstar
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:26 AM
-3

Once you get good at game, it doesn't become so unbelievable
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:26 AM
1

You've been conditioned to be too polite. You need to be more assertive.
/r/seduction11/06/22 01:25 AM
1

You discuss the laws of thermodynamics.
/r/seduction09/06/22 07:05 PM
2

Ahaha feel free to reach out if you need help
/r/seduction09/06/22 06:48 PM
1

I'd be curious to see how it plays out for you!
/r/seduction09/06/22 06:44 PM
2

That's a lot of money to invest. You only need 1 really good headshot for your first pic which you can probably get from a photographer for like $100. The rest of the photos should be a combination of other pics looking good and doing interesting things. Take a look at my last post for more detailed info.
/r/seduction09/06/22 06:24 PM
1

Where do you stay when you travel? What kind of activities do you partake in? Are you using dating apps?
/r/seduction09/06/22 05:01 PM
1

Start kissing them on first dates. And inviting them over to yours at the end of the date. However, I get the sense the problem runs deeper than that. You might not be all that interesting when conversing with them on the date itself and they get bored.
/r/seduction09/06/22 04:59 PM
3

Men like OP: I want to meet women! Also men like OP: but I don't want to go to the places they are found!
/r/seduction09/06/22 04:56 PM
1

I'd just keep the interaction light and limited to commenting on stories every once in a while to gauge interest. It seems she was down to meet, but when you couldn't when she wanted, the interest was lost. Focus on other girls in the meantime.
/r/seduction09/06/22 04:50 PM
1

I'm a guy who gets girls. I know what they like. Girls will never be straight up about what they like. Just offering to help you bro, up to you whether you want to take my help.
/r/seduction09/06/22 04:35 PM
1

Well, it would answer your question about whether it's your physical appearance that's the problem or something else
/r/seduction09/06/22 04:11 PM
1

Normally, yes, but everyone's bodies are different. If you're not sure if yours is up to par, post a pic of your body and I'll tell you.
/r/seduction09/06/22 03:35 PM
1

So you’re saying a woman who’s getting nothing but sex is having “dating options”? Uh, yes? Going on dates = dating. I am in the top 20% but I don’t feel the need to go online and cuck for women like you do Cuck for women? Lmao what? You're the one coming here crying about the state of society. I'm just telling people they're better off adapting than trying to change it.
/r/seduction09/06/22 02:23 PM
1

No they don’t. Women get fuckzoned, they’re not entering ltr or marriages with these men We're saying the same thing lmao. No it’s actually every man’s problem outside of the top 20% of males by SMV Right. So are you going to cry about it or get into that top 20%?
/r/seduction09/06/22 02:09 PM
1

Wrong. A 5 isn’t going to enter a LTR or marriage with Chad Never said they would. Just saying they have more options for dating. They just falsely believe a lot of those guys would be interested in an LTR with them. Nope. Same issue, and it becomes men’s problem too. It’s why women have such an inflated sense of self nowadays. They think their peers are the studs they fuck It only becomes a man's problem if he's an unattractive loser who spends his time whining on reddit instead of working on h…
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:58 PM
1

Just saying what works bro. If you don't want to play the dating app game, then don't.
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:34 PM
1

I never said you do, those were OP's words. You just need to be attractive, which most guys who complain on this sub aren't.
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:33 PM
1

They in fact do have more options which is why they're getting with the Chads in the first place. The fact that they don't realize that most Chads aren't looking for LTRs (because why would you if you can find a new girl anytime without issue?) and yet keep going back to them is a different issue entirely, but that's their problem, not ours. The best thing you can do is make yourself attractive to them so you can become one of those Chads yourself and profit accordingly, getting an ltr if you wa…
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:31 PM
1

6 figures doesn't mean as much as it used to these days. Lots of girls are starting to make that now too. I guarantee that getting ripped would increase your attractiveness though. It's the best way to compensate for whatever other physical disadvantages you have.
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:18 PM
1

You don't need to look like a bodybuilder, you just need to have defined muscles
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:10 PM
1

There's not really many benefits to having children anymore and many people are waking up to that now, hence the declining birth rates.
/r/seduction09/06/22 12:11 PM
1

Except China and India aren't having the same incel problem the US is.
/r/seduction09/06/22 12:10 PM
1

You don't have to become a chad, just put in some effort into your appearance.
/r/seduction09/06/22 05:30 AM
1

By the time you're able to "figure it out", you could have put in the work needed to make yourself attractive and actually get laid. It's not ridiculous that it's harder to get laid as someone whose defining feature is spending all day playing video games. What's ridiculous is thinking that someone like that deserves it.
/r/seduction09/06/22 05:14 AM
0

Alright go change society then lmfao
/r/seduction09/06/22 05:06 AM
3

Nah, they're just picking the same 20% of guys who have multiple options as a result and once they realize it, they drop them for someone better.
/r/seduction09/06/22 04:50 AM
1

🤷
/r/seduction09/06/22 03:55 AM
2

Yeah, a lack of social security, healthcare, mental health support, and easy access to firearms will do that to ya haha
/r/seduction09/06/22 03:53 AM
2

10 years
/r/seduction09/06/22 03:52 AM
0

That's only an American problem. The rest of the world is doing fine.
/r/seduction09/06/22 03:52 AM
2

About to hit 200 lays
/r/seduction09/06/22 03:50 AM
2

No, I know lots of guys have it rough. I just adapt as needed to find success.
/r/seduction09/06/22 03:48 AM
1

Happiness is a direct result of how you choose to view life. You can either let things upset you or make the most of it. I choose to do the latter.
/r/seduction09/06/22 03:19 AM
2

Not a deflection, just the reality. What are you going to do, change society? Lmfao
/r/seduction09/06/22 03:01 AM
1

At least the losers they're marrying are actually attractive 🤷
/r/seduction09/06/22 02:51 AM
1

Nah I'm good, thanks though
/r/seduction09/06/22 02:51 AM
3

Times have changed. You can either get over it and adapt or do nothing and cry about it. Seems like you've chosen the latter.
/r/seduction09/06/22 02:50 AM
5

Yep, I put in the work and I'm reaping the rewards.
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:27 AM
4

Not really. Society is still functioning.
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:27 AM
27

Because times have changed. Girls have more options. They don't need to settle for losers anymore because they are pressured to get married and it's the best they'll get. They can be pickier now.
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:04 AM
12

So instead of complaining about it, why don't you put the work in to get jacked, do exciting things, take a pic with a dog, and get a better haircut so you can compete with them?
/r/seduction09/06/22 12:11 AM
1

Take a look through my post history for info on how to kill it on the apps.
/r/seduction09/06/22 12:09 AM
3

See one one day, then see another the next day, then another the next day, etc.
/r/seduction09/06/22 12:08 AM
2

Just alternate between them.
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:58 PM
1

You spent more time thinking about and crafting this elaborate analogy than you probably have making yourself attractive to them in the first place.
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:58 PM
5

Barcelona, Prague, Budapest, Lisbon, or London.
/r/seduction08/06/22 03:15 PM
-4

The penis goes in the vagina
/r/seduction31/05/22 02:14 PM
1

Well then just say you haven't had time for relationships because you travel and work too much
/r/seduction30/05/22 10:33 PM
2

Just say you think she's cute and wanted to introduce yourself
/r/seduction30/05/22 02:31 PM
1

But what's your lifestyle like? Do you travel a lot? Or have a demanding career?
/r/seduction30/05/22 12:12 PM
1

Basically, let her escalate the investment level. If she's not being lovey-dovey, don't start being it yourself. Match her energy when it comes to texting.
/r/seduction30/05/22 12:10 PM
2

Trying to game in a small town is like playing on hard mode. You will struggle.
/r/seduction29/05/22 07:12 PM
2

Normally you wanna give some context to getting her contact before you ask for it. Basically just say you'd like to take her out sometime, then when she says yes, ask for her contact. Anyway, in this situation since you don't know how invested she is in going out with you, I'd test her investment first through normal conversation. Either comment on her story or share one of her posts to her in a private message with a comment about it to start the conversation or simply send her a message saying…
/r/seduction29/05/22 05:25 PM
3

Well what's your honest cover?
/r/seduction29/05/22 05:14 PM
11

Lose weight, get fit, then dress like what you see when when you google "stylish men casual"
/r/seduction29/05/22 05:12 PM
1

Depends on whether you asked her out during the cold approach or if you just got her IG without the context of connecting to go on a date
/r/seduction29/05/22 04:49 PM
15

Even as someone who's advanced, I don't even bother with maybe girls
/r/seduction29/05/22 04:47 PM
15

You don't need to play games, you just need to have more social intelligence. Being sweet, vulnerable and honest about your feelings with people too soon is a lot for people to handle. You need to go into social interactions with tact and use social awareness to know when to open up that way.
/r/seduction29/05/22 04:46 PM
1

It's just too much investment before the first date. You don't want to seem overly eager or more invested than she is. I recommend just texting "hey, we still on for tonight?". The only time you should write something more lovey-dovey is if she's already being that way with you, in which case match her energy.
/r/seduction29/05/22 04:42 PM
1

Still not recommended.
/r/seduction29/05/22 02:00 PM
1

This is why I get their IG instead of their number. Way easier to keep track of them that way since their name and face are already there. Is there a way for me to go through my contacts and find the 5 most recent additions Maybe, but it probably depends on what type of phone you have. Best to google that. Or some sort of app that will allow me to separate coworkers, from girls I’m interested in to avoid this happening again in the future? Probably not, I think you just need to make a note in th…
/r/seduction29/05/22 12:19 PM
2

Don't get so invested in random girls. Not every girl will be into you when you approach them. Realize that and it won't be a big deal when you get rejected.
/r/seduction29/05/22 12:16 PM
1

She wasn't interested. Side note: don't say "oh fuck this is gonna be awkward", that made you look weak.
/r/seduction29/05/22 12:11 PM
0

Go to social events to make friends and get on the dating apps to meet girls.
/r/seduction29/05/22 12:10 PM
1

Just do a pub crawl. Easiest way to meet other women and get laid.
/r/seduction29/05/22 12:09 PM
2

Generally, they will make you look more nerdy which is usually not the most attractive style. I highly advise you start wearing contacts.
/r/seduction29/05/22 12:08 PM
2

Just don't propose one and let the conversation die out naturally. If she's asking you for one, then say you can't and she'll get the message eventually.
/r/seduction29/05/22 12:06 PM
3

Need is a strong word. A social circle helps for sure, but you can still be successful without it. There are different ways to game and they each have their pros and cons. Social circle game is good, but so are daygame, night game, and dating apps. You just need to know what you're doing.
/r/seduction29/05/22 12:03 PM
7

Daygame - direct Night game - indirect "Hello, I just saw you from there, and I found your style to be attractive. I think we can scan QR code (a way to exchange contact info in China) to get to know each other". That does not work every time, however, generally speaking, more than 30% of women I opened would agree, according to my logs. You're asking for their contact info way too early. You need to build attraction first. Just say you think she's cute and wanted to introduce yourself, then hav…
/r/seduction29/05/22 11:57 AM
6

Bring the girls you're already talking to to the dancefloor. Otherwise just enjoy yourself on the dancefloor and see if any girls come near you or give you a smile, then approach them.
/r/seduction29/05/22 11:54 AM
-1

Sounds like you need to work on your inner game. You don't sound like you're in the right place mentally. If your financial and living situation is sound, then you need to work on your mindset and confidence.
/r/seduction29/05/22 11:51 AM
2

Just ask her how work is going and have a normal conversation. See how invested she is in her responses. If she seems invested, just say "hey we should go out sometime, what do you think?" If she doesn't say yes, it's not a big deal. It's not creepy to ask girls out.
/r/seduction29/05/22 11:49 AM
8

You can bring up that you saw her the other night, but don't bring up how you were afraid to approach her
/r/seduction28/05/22 03:56 AM
1

By becoming a person with value to add.
/r/seduction28/05/22 03:27 AM
1

Just amused at how you decided to frame this post lol I'm sure your guide is great.
/r/seduction28/05/22 03:24 AM
1

I use it every time to great success.
/r/seduction28/05/22 03:10 AM
3

Try this opener: "heyy what's happening NAME? Love your smile, you've got a great vibe ✌️" If a conversation doesn't start after that, just ask her how her week/weekend is going. After a little back and forth, say "we should grab a drink soon, what do you think?". Then get her number/IG and set it up there.
/r/seduction28/05/22 02:58 AM
1

By being attractive and having game.
/r/seduction28/05/22 02:56 AM
2

It's very unlikely
/r/seduction28/05/22 02:56 AM
1

What am I doing wrong/ missing because once I approach a girl or anyone all I can talk about is work or boring stuff. Stop talking about work or boring stuff.
/r/seduction28/05/22 02:55 AM
5

No you shouldn't. Just say you're grabbing a drink with a friend.
/r/seduction28/05/22 02:54 AM
2

Lol we give you permission to give her a massage young padawan
/r/seduction28/05/22 02:54 AM
1

It's very useful, but not necessary
/r/seduction28/05/22 02:53 AM
1

Yes.
/r/seduction28/05/22 02:52 AM
3

Knock on her door and introduce yourself as her neighbour. At the end of the convo, tell her you guys should connect in case she needs anything. Get her IG or number, then test out her interest through text. Be careful though, if things don't work out or if you act too creepy during all this, it'll make things awkward between you guys and since she lives next door, that won't be ideal.
/r/seduction28/05/22 02:51 AM
1

Oof I'm surprised this girl is still hanging with you. How have you not kissed her after 3 dates? That should happen on date 1. Anyway, if by some chance she's still into you after all this inaction, you should defs go for a kiss asap on your next date and if you're at a point where you don't know what to do, just suggest going back to her place. It's not as big a deal as you think it is. One great date idea is to cook dinner together. Maybe you should suggest that as your next date.
/r/seduction28/05/22 02:49 AM
3

How do you normally open and what's your follow up message?
/r/seduction28/05/22 02:45 AM
3

Long hair, tight & revealing clothing, fit body, boob job if flat chested, well done makeup
/r/seduction27/05/22 10:52 PM
2

Title: "Guide on how to be physically attractive" Post: OP telling you to go look for it on another subreddit Lmao
/r/seduction27/05/22 10:50 PM
5

Says the dude who initially started this conversation at 100 by saying "worst advice" lmao
/r/seduction27/05/22 04:18 PM
9

I'll tell you what a high value guy doesn't do - try to get validation from his friends by calling them to brag about his sexual encounters 😂
/r/seduction27/05/22 04:15 PM
8

She ghosted him, sure, but then she reached out again. Sometimes girls change their minds about you over time. Obviously that's never happened to you before lol.
/r/seduction27/05/22 03:37 PM
12

Lmao if you're losing your self esteem and sense of abundance from taking a shot in the dark without expectation, you are doing it wrong. Reply but know you’re just letting her treat you like shit This is the real worst advice here.
/r/seduction27/05/22 02:59 PM
2

Move on, yes
/r/seduction27/05/22 02:51 PM
4

This is exactly it.
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:33 PM
2

I have several platonic female friends, yes. The reason most guys can't be friends with girls though is because they struggle getting girls in general so if a girl is giving them more attention than normal, they see them as a potential romantic partner. To have guy friends, you need to focus on guys who are secure in themselves already to the point where they understand you're just friends. It's usually guys who get lots of girls who fit this bill because even if you say no to them romantically,…
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:32 PM
2

My personality is that of an introverted semi-loner, I have only a few friends and don't really get out much. This is your biggest problem (apart from maybe your physical appearance which I can't judge without seeing pics of you). Introvertedness is correlated with insecurity which girls do not find attractive in the slightest. Not having friends either indicates a lack of social skills which again, is not attractive. Sounds like you need to focus on your inner game first and foremost. Read No M…
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:23 PM
1

Having a drink or two definitely helps you loosen up in social settings. Just don't go overboard with it. Get a little buzz and go with it.
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:16 PM
1

Yep, I can totally relate.
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:15 PM
7

😂 😂 😂 Love it
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:15 PM
2

Hot chocolate at Dunkin? That's probably the reason she flaked on you bro, that's a terrible date idea lmao. Go for a drink at a bar. If you really want to see this girl, go meet her somewhere close to her, but I'd focus on other girls who live closer to you if I were you bro.
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:14 PM
3

Comment on their stories. Gives context to the conversation.
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:12 PM
4

Sounds like you missed the boat to ask her out on a date. You gotta do it when the investment is high.
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:10 PM
1

I don't use snap to talk to girls, but maybe the solution for you is to just delay your responses so as to extend the conversations.
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:09 PM
1

If she barely speaks English, then you're better off focusing your energy on other girls. Unless she's giving you very direct IOIs, it's an uphill battle my man.
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:07 PM
7

I suppose extremely attractive people have never needed to develop much in the way of substance; apparently most guys will put up with anything if a cute lady opens wide and lets them cum inside - and not just for a night but for a longer term relationship. They'll jump through hoops for months and months and parade around with their ditzy girl as if she's a flesh trophy, who's the real loser here? Bingo, you've hit the nail on the head. Most guys struggle getting laid in general so they will pu…
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:05 PM
1

Unless your dad is constantly popping into your house, you're completely fine.
/r/seduction27/05/22 11:58 AM
13

Bro how old are you? Lmao sounds like you're dealing with some insecurity issues if you need validation from people about your sexual exploits. Just enjoy yourself, you don't need to tell people.
/r/seduction27/05/22 11:56 AM
2

Like the other dude said, things in life are only awkward if you decide to see them as awkward. You need to stop thinking things are awkward. For your first question, you just change the subject to something else. For your second, if she turns away from the kiss, just say "oh someone's shy, but that's ok", then change the subject. This can be complicated though because the reason she turned away from the kiss might be because she's not actually into you. You have to calibrate according to the co…
/r/seduction27/05/22 11:54 AM
13

If a girl can't keep up a conversation, then just move on to the next one because it means she's not invested. You're wasting your time trying to make something happen with a girl who responds with 1 word answers.
/r/seduction27/05/22 11:48 AM
1

There is no fixing it. You forget about her and move on. Go talk to other girls, preferably not ones you work with.
/r/seduction27/05/22 11:45 AM
7

She did not reject you, she was simply taken already at that time. She might be single now so you should definitely shoot your shot. Just approach her and say hey, how's it going. Have a normal conversation. You've already spoken to her before so there's already context to you approaching her.
/r/seduction27/05/22 11:42 AM
22

You got nothing to lose so yeah you should. Just don't get your hopes up so you don't get disappointed if it doesn't go anywhere.
/r/seduction27/05/22 11:39 AM
3

Everyone makes mistakes, especially when they're horny
/r/seduction26/05/22 09:58 PM
1

To be able to get one date, you need to have the capability to get multiple. Otherwise it's just a fluke.
/r/seduction26/05/22 06:23 PM
1

Oh yes I remember you. You have to remember that change is gradual, not overnight. You won't see results until your body is visibly different, for instance. I also think that's not the best style to lean into if you're trying to attract multiple women.
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:56 PM
1

I wouldn't be able to tell you without seeing what you look like
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:13 PM
1

A lot of guys complain about OLD, but they don't realize that girls (who aren't just trying to fuck) have it just as bad. Girls are so highly selective on the apps because it's too overwhelming for them otherwise, but the only guys they swipe right on are the same 10% of guys that all the other girls swipe right on too which makes it very easy for said guys to live a pump and dump lifestyle since they have so many options at their disposal and never have to worry about not having someone to date…
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:08 PM
2

Feel free to dm me if you want an objective opinion
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:25 PM
12

If you're ugly/fat, we wouldn't make fun of you because we wouldn't want anyone to know we fucked you so we wouldn't even bring you up in the first place.
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:24 PM
13

It's not 100% true, but is generally still a good indicator, especially the post liking. If she's just watching your stories, it doesn't mean anything, but if she's commenting on them, it's 100% an IOI
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:22 PM
1

Maybe you haven't maximized your attractiveness yet
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:20 PM
1

You approach them.
/r/seduction23/05/22 04:02 PM
1

Nice shitpost 👌
/r/seduction23/05/22 04:00 PM
3

First off, your dates should always be close to your place so this should never really be an issue, but if for some reason you picked a faraway spot, at the end of the date, ask if she wants to split a bottle of wine. When she says yes and asks where, you just say "well we could go back to mine, but I live a little far away. What about your place?"
/r/seduction21/05/22 04:44 PM
1

I mean, the solution is to then make yourself able to compete. Or take the easy route and go for the college poon.
/r/seduction21/05/22 03:56 PM
1

I mean, if it's really close to downtown, what's stopping you from just living downtown and going out there to game when you want to? When you're pulling, you can tell them you have a condo downtown with a nice view which college girls will love.
/r/seduction21/05/22 01:15 PM
2

Yep, either OP hasn't maximized his attractiveness or he's socially awkward in his approaches.
/r/seduction21/05/22 01:11 PM
1

Uhhhh no, don't do that. If she reacts negatively to your opener, she's not interested. Don't try to white knight her into talking to you, just move on to the next girl, that's it.
/r/seduction21/05/22 01:10 PM
1

If you're moving from a small town or something, yes. If you're moving from the downtown of a major city, then no. Ideally, you want to be in a major city that also has a sizeable student presence.
/r/seduction21/05/22 01:08 PM
47

Next time you have a similar interaction with her, just say "it's too bad you have a boyfriend" and see how she responds to that.
/r/seduction21/05/22 01:05 PM
2

What's the reason you can't go back to yours? Are you living with your parents?
/r/seduction21/05/22 01:02 PM
1

It's very much like sales. You are the product and you have a funnel of prospective clients that you're qualifying as their interest in you increases until you get the sale (the lay). Some clients will already be invested in your product and the sale will be easy, but others will not be, making the sale harder. Those who aren't even interested to begin with will be almost impossible to convert so the best thing you can do is make your product as attractive as possible. Sometimes you will have co…
/r/seduction21/05/22 01:00 PM
12

I have to say, this isn't the fun and occasionally flirty back-and-forth I'd hoped for' Cringe, don't write that. She's probably not interested so just move on. If you really want to give it another try, then the best way to do it is to comment on her stories going forward and if she doesn't interact with your comments, then she's definitely not interested.
/r/seduction21/05/22 12:54 PM
2

You know, . This is . A great . Post!
/r/seduction17/05/22 06:07 PM
1

Lots of 9s+ know what they want and they aren't ashamed to admit it because they know they will get it. Maybe not from you, but from other guys who will deliver it. Best to lower your expectations and go for 7s/8s.
/r/seduction17/05/22 06:04 PM
1

Yes.
/r/seduction17/05/22 06:01 PM
2

Bro how old are you?
/r/seduction17/05/22 06:00 PM
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Lol what? Not sure what you're referring to. All I said was I enjoy casual sex lol. If you're secure enough in yourself, you won't feel lonely or need anyone else to complete you, you'll be complete already.
/r/seduction17/05/22 04:23 PM
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Not my experience so far 🤷
/r/seduction17/05/22 04:08 PM
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Once you really get to know someone you will find things about them that make them less attractive. Could be anything. It's all up to you and them if you want to continue. Very true, but many of those things don't need to be surprises. Sounds like you might just be dating the wrong people and/or putting on a front when you first meet them that they eventually figure out isn't the real you. The best way to find love is to be authentic from the get go, that way there wouldn't be any reason for the…
/r/seduction17/05/22 04:01 PM
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Might be your location, but in general, if you become less attractive as you date someone, it shouldn't be a surprise if they lose interest 🤷
/r/seduction17/05/22 03:49 PM
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In my experience, they drop all of that bs after the 3rd time they've slept with you. I was referring moreso to just having higher standards in general if you're going to fall for someone.
/r/seduction17/05/22 03:36 PM
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I'd say that's a stretch. You can still love them, it just takes more to get to that point.
/r/seduction17/05/22 03:32 PM
1

So your flying around the world for social proof? I travel a lot, yes. You got lambos in the backdrop? I would not recommend this unless you're actually loaded. I guess this is a way but your better be living that life style in reality, if your eating hot pockets in your moms basement then its going to back fire. If you're eating hot pockets in your mom's basement, you should not even be trying to pick up girls at all. You have more important things to work on first.
/r/seduction17/05/22 11:03 AM
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Sounds like your schedule is pretty crazy then. If you only have free time from 9-11 to meet people, then you're not going to meet many people. If you want to meet people, you may need to consider changing your schedule. Being free after 7 on weeknights is a must-have.
/r/seduction17/05/22 05:09 AM
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Bro that comment wasn't even directed at you, you chose to take personal offense to it yourself which is a sign of some pretty weak inner game. I'd caution anyone who is considering working with you. Maybe you should try to learn how to interact with people and everybody won't downvote you. Says the guy whose top comment on his long-winded pointless essay post is "lol" 😂
/r/seduction16/05/22 11:08 PM
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If you put more than 30 seconds of thought into your IG profile, you are a loser. 😂 Nice ego save bro It's very easy to get laid without creating an image on social media. Never said it wasn't 🤷 however, nothing wrong with maximizing all possible avenues of game. As a dating coach, I thought that's something you'd have understood by now. I'm sorry you haven't figured out how yet. Lmao so bitter man, sorry your post didn't get the response you wanted it to. Maybe you should re-evaluate your coach…
/r/seduction16/05/22 10:50 PM
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If you're spending all day trying to take cool IG pics to impress women, you're doing it wrong lmao
/r/seduction16/05/22 10:31 PM
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Anyone who still says getting her number is better than getting her IG/socials either A) has a shit IG profile, B) is insecure about how they look in photos, C) is a boomer, or D) all of the above.
/r/seduction16/05/22 10:16 PM
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Men have tried to understand women for millennia. I gave up a long time ago. The best thing to do is to not take them seriously until you've slept with them at least 3 times. Until then, their investment will be like a roller-coaster in the dark. It will go up and down randomly.
/r/seduction16/05/22 09:26 PM
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Girls will be girls. Learn to expect this from them and don't let it get to you.
/r/seduction16/05/22 08:59 PM
1

Comment on her IG stories.
/r/seduction16/05/22 08:57 PM
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It's because you haven't shown enough value to her. If you have a decent IG, get her IG instead of her number, that social proof is invaluable.
/r/seduction16/05/22 08:57 PM
1

You should always be trying to get the girl over to yours at the end of the date. Your time is valuable, dont waste it.
/r/seduction16/05/22 08:56 PM
1

Not needy. Just say "hey actually, x day works better for me. Are you available then?"
/r/seduction16/05/22 08:55 PM
1

Handcuffs and a blindfold
/r/seduction16/05/22 08:55 PM
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Not reading all that (and I'd be surprised if anyone actually has apart from OP re-reading it over and over again while jerking himself), but here's my bulletproof method: Getting her IG instead of her number. The social proof from my IG is enough to prevent flaking since there's no reason for her to doubt my value. Edit: y'all who are down voting obviously have shit IGs and do not know the power of having a good profile.
/r/seduction16/05/22 08:54 PM
10

Bro wtf did I just read
/r/seduction16/05/22 08:52 PM
3

Get a 2nd degree
/r/seduction13/05/22 04:45 AM
1

I beg to differ 🤷
/r/seduction12/05/22 12:19 AM
3

It's not low hanging fruit, it's just girls who aren't prude and stuck up.
/r/seduction11/05/22 09:25 PM
2

Nah, I just know what I'm doing. You'd be surprised at what you can achieve if you had game.
/r/seduction11/05/22 09:05 PM
2

Because it's fun af
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:55 PM
4

That's what condoms are for 😘
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:55 PM
0

Don't need a 2nd if I get it in on the 1st 🤷
/r/seduction11/05/22 01:05 AM
1

Some of them sure. Most of them have pretty average bodies though. I don't get with fatties, those are 5 and under lol. Going out with 7s and 8s from dating apps will not increase your chances of getting 9s and 10s, no. They don't know each other. I also don't have a reputation because I travel a lot so I always swiping in different cities.
/r/seduction10/05/22 07:53 PM
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Doesn't need to be if you do it right. I rarely spend more than $15 on my dates.
/r/seduction10/05/22 03:11 AM
1

No idea!
/r/seduction09/05/22 11:52 PM
1

You mentioned it at the end of your post!
/r/seduction09/05/22 10:57 PM
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