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You got me, drink more water now
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:29 PM
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Believe whatever you want flat earther. It’s called a recessed chin, as I said lifestyle factors can play a role but their effects are minor compared to genetics, a double chin is the most affected by fat if you’re obese but low jaw recession and the way it pushes back fat is only correctable by surgery. You’re not going to find a bodybuilder zooming in on that
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:27 PM
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Research is free but you clearly wouldn’t understand scientific literature anyway. Doesn’t help people to tell them that their problems can be solved with diet, sleep, and exercise and then years go by and they wonder why they have a six pack but they also have a double chin, acne, bald head and bags under their eyes. Sure, people should be healthy but this post reads like an oblivious California hippie girl that believes health is just about drinking water and sleeping.
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:17 PM
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The ridiculousness of this post is in not recognizing how much of these “cues” are dependent on genetics, not health. Jawline, skin, hair, droopy eyes, and to a lower extent (primarily for men) slim waist, are almost entirely genetic. Eye bags are usually a structural issue, puffy eyes from low sleep is reversible in a single night (it’s a result of blood pooling in your eye lids/under eyes, it should turn white when pressed on). jawline/especially double chin is related to genetics of bone stru…
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:10 PM
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Meh depends on the context. If its 1 on 1/during the day time, sure. If its her and her group of friends and they’re being rude or ignoring you or giving you any sign of disinterest on the opener that isn’t polite/mature/direct - you’re not being given the space to leave with grace. Totally fine to walk away mid sentence. At best your attempt at a polite exit gets ignored, at worst it escalates to them making a scene/bro police getting involved etc. Not saying that it should be the norm to exit …
/r/seduction03/06/26 02:56 PM
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Am a nurse - generally very few go anywhere after work, its straight home & to sleep. Our shifts are 7 AM to 7:30 PM, sometimes not getting out until 8-9 PM, not home til 8:30-11 pm depending on the commute. and then most are back up somewhere between 4-5 AM, sometimes even 3 if the commute is bad, so they can go to work again the next morning. Then night shifters are the same but 12 hours flipped. Really isn’t a lot of time to socialize or unwind anywhere. Only people i knew who did were on a f…
/r/seduction26/05/26 07:37 AM
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Yeah i saw that on a tiktok too. Its false. Ofc women can have kids into their 40s, but the odds rapidly decline after 30 with each year. The chance of chromosomal disorders also rapidly increases. By age 45 the chance of a chromosomal disorder like down syndrome is as common as 1 in 20 pregnancies in some studies. Mens sperm quality might decline, but there is so much of it that it doesn’t really matter, and while it can increase the risk of autism/even double it as one ages, that’s still a sup…
/r/seduction19/05/26 02:02 PM
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Sorry for the wall of text, taking a poop, gotta do something while I’m here. I almost exclusively approach groups, more fun/easier to flirt/tease, winning over the friends helps a lot, most pretty girls are found in groups
/r/seduction19/05/26 01:51 PM
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In general its best not to project/psychoanalyze people you know nothing about on the internet, its not really constructive. I give two shits if they think I’m creepy - if I cared do you think I’d lie about my age to improve my odds, possibly one of the most legitimately creepy things you could do, or do you think I’d be like most men and feel shame and go to other venues and rationalize about how “I don’t want those women anyway, they’re too immature for me.” I have no problem saying my real ag…
/r/seduction19/05/26 01:46 PM
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I mean in a womans 30s getting married/having kids within only 1-2 years of meeting a guy isn’t that uncommon. Female fertility takes an exponential nosedive in a woman’s 30s and they have much more peer pressure to settle down/have kids when they see all their friends are getting married/having kids before them.
/r/seduction19/05/26 01:28 PM
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I mean tbh its definitely not just older women saying this. I’m 27, I went to Phebes in NYC, well known for letting in under-21s. In fact, the place is basically 90% 18 year olds, I didn’t meet a single girl older & talked to basically all the pretty ones at the bar. My friends aged 29-36 did not lie about their age/didn’t think they could get away with it, 3/3 all hated if because they’d get instantly rejected due to age alone. I made the mistake of thinking lying about being 22 was okay and ev…
/r/seduction19/05/26 12:24 PM
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Actually personal experience is massively important, because attraction/dating is ALWAYS personal and contextual. Some people will say the phillipines or colombia or thailand are the easiest in the world - and then they leave out that they were either 1) paying escorts 2) going for the trailer park trash equivalent of their home country that the locals aren’t going for 3) Don’t understand the extent that age/money/race/looks/height can massively swing your status in different cultural contexts a…
/r/seduction13/04/26 08:53 PM
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Really the answer is whatever gives you the highest amount of status in the environment with the demographic you’re after. Lots say “bartender” because while actually not being a high status job in general - you can be positioned in a noghtclub environment with beautiful young women and have high status within that specific environment. A DJ/promoter/headliner music artist all have way more status in those venues, security is probably similar. But you could also be a christian rock singer, a pre…
/r/seduction07/04/26 12:37 AM
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I mean - if you’re talking about the guy who was on the news for that - he was not picking up hot chicks he was going for middle aged women 30s-50s lol.
/r/seduction16/02/26 10:26 PM
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Thailand is terrible tbh unless you want a transformer or escort (often the same person). Young Middle-upper class attractive educated women there are a lot less likely to be impressed, especially if you dont speak the language. Sorry bro but no long term expats I know with standards find it easy there.
/r/seduction16/02/26 10:24 PM
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Hair/skin/teeth issues are #1 Fitness is #2 if you’re very out of shape and never really got interested in the gym. Its true you can learn it all for free - but the real value is that when you’re paying money - you’re far less likely to not show up and less likely to half ass it (assuming you have a good coach who understands to push you - careful because many are afraid to push clients and risk them feeling discomfort as it can make them lose business). 12 months is probably not necessary- afte…
/r/seduction16/02/26 10:21 PM
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Its not the third world country, its moreso women in vulnerable social and financial positions (broke, uneducated, unstable/nonexistent family & friend support networks). You don’t need to travel to a third world country for that. Also, if you have standards, every third world country has an educated middle and upper class who are often living even better than most first worlders. They will not be easy and will likely be even harder than back home due to having strong national pride & preferring…
/r/seduction07/02/26 02:02 PM
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I mean, game really isn’t the same all over the world. It’s largely a western english speaking culture thing - so are you just looking at cities in the US/UK/Australia/Canada? If you can be outside of the US, the best options are generally south america or east europe. But whatever “game” you learn there will not translate over well to the US - you’ll probably find you can often just go direct with girls in groups at clubs and its fine. You also will probably lose all desire to ever date an Amer…
/r/seduction04/02/26 03:26 AM
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Tl:dr Carry a bag of onions everywhere you go boys, women love onions
/r/seduction28/01/26 10:33 AM
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Food for thought: there are two men the woman talks about. The responsible vulnerable man she says she wants. And the egotistical liar who brushes everything off as a joke or blames her and makes her insecure that she complains about (hmm. How does she know them so well? Weird). Which ones has she always gone for? Sometimes being “toxic” or whatever is literally all they emotionally respond to.
/r/seduction28/01/26 12:59 AM
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Idk every time I went out with friends 6’2+ (Ny, PA, North Carolina) at college bars (women 18-22) they literally turn every head in the bar as they walk past and if any of us opened with them next to us, they could just stand there not saying anything and the girl would open them, it was awful lol couldn’t go out with them. They rarely would go out bc they’d all get girlfriends very quickly/whenever they wanted. Maybe different cities/demographics are less impressed but the women we were going …
/r/seduction26/01/26 12:25 AM
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1st world just means cold war era NATO, 2nd world is cold war era warsaw pact nations and 3rd means all the countries that were neutral. Not sure how you could combine those three lol.
/r/seduction22/01/26 09:17 PM
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Complete nonsense. In fact volume is usually one of the bigger problems lol. Bros are going out in nyc complaining about being 3000 sets deep with 1 lay with a 4/10. Length of time in set is whats important. Better to be in one or two sets and talk with them the whole night rather than get rejected in 2 seconds and spam approach the whole bar. If you can’t hook consistently, volume isn’t your problem, your opener is coming off too threatening/sexual and you have nothing of value to offer.
/r/seduction22/01/26 01:04 AM
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There’s a website called photofeeler where you can have your pics anonymously rated by women - you can do it for “free” if you’ll rate a bunch of women’s photos in exchange or pay a bit of money to save time. Generally you need all photos to be an 8/10.
/r/seduction19/01/26 05:57 PM
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Im saying dont go to the middle east lol. “Anywhere that is not”
/r/seduction18/01/26 09:40 AM
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Karisma King, and my game is still largely the same. Better results when I travel abroad - direct game is much more culturally acceptable in south/latin america, the word creep doesn’t really exist in their language (there is similar but you have to be very egregiously disrespectful to be called it)- even rejections are generally still friendly. Trying to just change my career and leave the US permanently. I realized that many of the direct game pundits, especially mark manson (6’3” white texan …
/r/seduction17/01/26 07:57 PM
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I would bet any amount the money back guarantee is a lie, they will make any excuse for why you’re not eligible. I understand they’re massive in this space - but I’ve been at free tours and couldn’t stay longer then 10 minutes because my friend and I were so cringed by what was obviously paid actors (the acting was terrible) in the crowd to try to cheer or act in demonstrations where they have their anxiety “released” If they had any integrity- its long gone - I can’t trust anything they put out…
/r/seduction15/01/26 10:42 PM
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I did- i had already had a couple thousand sets under my belt but d didn’t have much to show for it, chronic rejections. I fully thought it would be a scam and that its going to just be a bunch of dudes with approach anxiety and a coach to push them into sets. It was that but worse actually. Before the day I told him i needed feed back on the content of my conversations so i can better understand how to hook more consistently and how to escalate and pull more smoothly. I shit you not - this mofo…
/r/seduction15/01/26 10:39 PM
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Its definitely circumventable and the foreigner status will help with that a lot - but feiends of mine ag 5’7 or shorter are blatantly told they’re being rejected due to their height. Its moreso being very tall is just easy mlde (6’2 is the point where you can kind of just be an autist and have no game - assuming your hair/age/fitness aren’t limiting you - baldness/age is a strong rejection trigger in younger women)
/r/seduction15/01/26 09:53 PM
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100% this is a grass is greener situation. You’re foreigner status maxxing. I think americans are far worse than british (though i agree americans are prettier on average). Culturally it felt pretty similar to be honest except maybe British girls are even more likely to be on antidepressants, cant tolerate basic everday life without a therapist, and drink more (a fuck ton more). American girls also value height much more - at your height you could be unemployed, live with your mom, have a crimin…
/r/seduction15/01/26 12:38 PM
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Respectfully- be careful about your reputation. American college is different, it is very easy to get a creep reputation, it will not matter how “respectful” you are - its largely considered a socially inappropriate thing to do. It’s probably best you avoid cold approach during the day, especially group sets. When I was your age cold approaching in college, I had a reputation after like 20 cold approaches - word spreads very fast due to group chats. The majority of guys I saw do cold approaches …
/r/seduction04/01/26 06:32 PM
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Dating is extremely contextual- you did not say your age, your city, what kinds of women you’re after, what types of sets you’re opening, where you meet them, who you’re with when you meet them, etc. All of that is honestly more impactful than looks or game. An ugly 30 something year old will brag about how he’s one of the top 5 PUAs in his city - and then you find out every girl he sleeps with is obese, scarred face, cleft lip, trans, obese 50 divorced with 2 kids, extra chromosome, or literall…
/r/seduction03/01/26 06:10 AM
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Again - speaking purely about American culture. Cant name a single girl from my university who was dating a guy older than 24 and it was always through college or an extension of it. In most of Europe this does not apply. If you’re talking about 18-22 year olds from tinder who were matching with 30 somethings - guarantee they’re either fat/ugly/crazy/social outcasts from their peers and it will never be serious. Still in my 20s btw, so no its not me at all. But many of my friends are in their 30…
/r/seduction13/12/25 12:11 AM
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Depends on the women and the culture. In America If you’re talking about very young women 18-22 - hell no. Those are college girls, they care a great deal about what their peers think - and the age range they look for is very narrow and the pool of guys they date is mostly limited to their college. There is a great deal of cultural social shame attached to them dating older than 3 years (and even that’s pushing it much of the time with gen z calling seniors who date freshmen pedos). Sometimes th…
/r/seduction12/12/25 11:58 PM
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You’re not succeeding you’re changing your metrics of success lol. If your metric is: date beautiful women whose company makes you happiest and you change it to: date any woman so I can brag to the boys about what a player I am even though I find the actual women uninteresting and unenjoyable - are you really succeeding? Idk I think dating women for the approval of other men is kind of gay.
/r/seduction28/11/25 03:44 PM
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Yes. If they ask you where are your friends: “they’re drunk.”
/r/seduction19/09/24 11:37 PM
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it’s a GABA receptor agonist. In laymans terms it blocks part of the brain responsible for inhibiton.
/r/seduction03/09/24 06:19 PM
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Yes she turned her head around at the END. He was already past her. She showed disinterest (rudely) and he immediately began walking away. As for how far away he was on the open: we really have no idea. She’s filming a close up of herself. She also said she was leaving the bars in a follow up video in her comments - again because of the way it’s filmed we don’t know how busy the street is. Men are not predators. A simple: “I’m fine sorry but I’d rather not talk I hope you have a really good nigh…
/r/seduction11/05/24 06:25 PM
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So a simple “Hey how’s it going” is idiotic but “damn you’re cute, could I get your number” to a girl walking alone in the dark is smooth? Most girls would say the latter is cat calling lmao “Dayummmmm gurl you’re cute” hahaha
/r/seduction11/05/24 09:29 AM
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The exchange was Man: “Hey how’s it going” Woman: turns to her right “don’t fucking talk to me” Man: “oh.. okay” begins to walk away Woman: turns behind her to talk to man as he walks away “THANK YOU, FUCK OFF” Man: “You could say it nicer!” Where is the harassment did we watch the same video? Clown world.
/r/seduction11/05/24 09:21 AM
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Did we watch the same video? The man said “hey how’s it going.” He was not screaming you can barely hear him on the mic lol. He also was not behind her, she turns to her right. She thinks the response to “hey how’s it going” is to be rude and say “don’t fucking talk to me right now” to which the guy says “oh okay” and begins to walk away. How is that pressuring her? Then she goes for a double hit to kick him further down and turns to say “thank you [for agreeing to leave me alone and not pressur…
/r/seduction11/05/24 09:16 AM
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Well in case they do, film yourself on tiktok doing this so you go viral and then maybe one of them can visit you in jail before your birthday
/r/seduction27/04/24 02:18 PM
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Go up to girls at the mall and tell them you think they’re really pretty and you’re trying to lose your virginity
/r/seduction27/04/24 12:00 PM
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There’s a term for what you described: fools mate. I got laid in nashville too! Pulled within 10 seconds, was instant honestly. I opened with “get off the phone you’re hot” or something, and then we started walking towards her apartment. You met up with a girl who specifically wanted to get laid. That’s not game. And i’m not going to write on reddit and tell guys they just need to be confident. And I’m not going to tell people she was a 10 either - no girl that’s that easy is. The longer you do …
/r/seduction25/03/24 09:07 PM
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Fun hack: join the facebook group for people looking for apartments, roommates, subleases. People that are looking for roommates are pretty much always in their 20s. And girls will literally write out an exact description of everything they like doing for fun like it’s a resumé. In US cities on the east coast, I’ve found it’s usually “going out” aka binge drinking at bars/clubs til 2 am OR getting food/drinks at restaurants/having wine nights & going to bed early before midnight. Additional popu…
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:19 PM
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Incorrect. It’s a virus, it is permanent, just dormant. Stress/a weakened immune system can cause flare ups in some people that no one notices or cares about. You probably have it and don’t realize it.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:15 PM
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Herpes is probably the most minor std you’ve chosen to worry about, and you probably have it and don’t know it. Nearly everyone does, it’s far more common than 1 in 4. It goes dormant and stays asymptomatic. You should worry more about pregnancy, the risk and consequences are far higher than pretty much any std.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:13 PM
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Doesn't sound like a ONS, doesn't sound like sex happened at all. Probably why she's ghosting. Also why is her friend there? That's not a date. Sounds like he didn't close, he escalated but now there is too much pressure around meeting. How is she supposed to act? What is she supposed to expect? Does she really know this guy? Or is all she knows about him that he likes her because of her "natural beauty." Is he going to expect sex? She doesn't know, so she ghosts.
/r/seduction07/06/22 02:44 AM
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Popular seduction advice is not game anymore. It is running around like a chicken with their head cut off asking women “how about some dick?” but disguising it in variations of “You’re cute, I’m [name]. The majority of “success” men boast about, is either: They got a girlfriend, she’s a 5-6/10 and they’re calling her a 10. It wasn’t game, she was just down, you were out of her league, and you two had sex which made her very invested and you settled for her. Or the even more toxic and pathetic su…
/r/seduction08/05/22 12:28 AM
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What do you want? Seriously why are you even asking this question? You're not even asking how to turn it into fwb or how to cut it off or how to just be friends, you're asking reddit what you should want.
/r/seduction01/05/22 07:46 AM
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These results aren’t abnormal. Guys shitting on you are either skating on their height and/or looks and are oblivious to it, or they’re hunting in the pacific ocean in National Geographic harpooning whales and pedaling them off as 10s. You should record your audio in set.
/r/seduction01/05/22 01:53 AM
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You’re making too big a deal about it. Read the social cues. Why is she telling you you have a boyfriend? Is it because you were too forward? Say don’t worry about it (in the tonality that you would say “no problem.”) and change subjects. Does she like you but has a boyfriend and is telling you because she knows she’s not supposed to flirt with you? Say don’t worry about it in a cocky way, cut the conversation thread and change subjects. Get OFF any conversation involving her having a boyfriend.…
/r/seduction17/04/22 04:13 PM
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There's literally a homeless guy in NYC who gets by begging for money and sleeping with women for showers and a bed to sleep on half the week. You can look him up, he did an interview. I'm sure everyone here knows a guy or two that has lived on a few friends couches while banging like it's their part time job. Being a dead beat does not mean you are unattractive. There are plenty of seemingly successful men who "have their life together." Money, friends, social connections, etc. Yet they get now…
/r/seduction21/10/21 05:22 PM
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Oh god John Anthony is a total fraud I have friends that know him personally, one that used to wing with him until he realized he's a con artist. He scams guys, hires hookers, sleeps with trannies, pays actresses for infields, and even pays his current girlfriend. I hope to god you realize that and run far from him.
/r/seduction19/10/21 03:56 AM
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Yeah I watched the video. I actually just posted about it. You didn't think there was anything odd about how much the girls reacted on his open? You thought there was nothing fake about that? How about when he started showing how his camera man followed them on the streets and then got in their cab filming them with the camera pointed right at their face? Or when the camera man gets out first and films them getting out and coming back to the apartment? Did you ever even question how the girls we…
/r/seduction19/10/21 03:47 AM
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Not really, I STILL pretty much only get rejected, I’ve only pulled a couple times. I try to look for sets where I can talk to the girl without the friends cock blocking. Ie: girl of interest is on her phone on a bar stool, looking around the room and her friends are engaged with each other or other guy(s). Sets where a group of girls are standing in a circle can be very tough to open unless the girls don’t know each other well. Although I’m finding that now that I’m out of college, the girl’s f…
/r/seduction25/09/21 06:59 AM
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You can’t become “immune” you just approach regardless of how perfect or imperfect the situation may be. If it’s a group, how can you bring value to the group? You can’t expect to just become “immune” or fearless or whatever and open a 6 set with 2 guys and get in a one on one convo with your girl of interest while ignoring her friends. They will cock block you, they don’t know you, and you won’t get to give the girl enough value that she will fight for you against her friends disapproval. Of co…
/r/seduction25/09/21 12:42 AM
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Seconding #2. Went through over 1000 rejections in a row at that age (unless you count make outs with drunk girls that will never know or care about your name as a break in the streak).
/r/seduction24/09/21 09:01 PM
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If you’re thinking about hiring a hooker so you can find the courage and skill to pick up girls afterwards it’s probably not going to help.
/r/seduction24/09/21 02:00 AM
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It’s an advertised benefit of tinder platinum. “Priority likes.”
/r/seduction19/09/21 11:32 PM
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USA, have used it in NY, PA, and now North Carolina. Although I was in more suburban environments, more people but not too many in a 5 km radius - I’ve run out of girls to swipe on pretty quick with that radius, I use like a 100 km radius. Maybe you just have a killer profile
/r/seduction19/09/21 10:25 PM
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It’s a visible toggle in the app. I think you can even see it without a subscription. Tap on the profile button in the bottom right and at the crnter of the bottom of the screen there’s a button, “my tinder” or something. For me it says “my tinder platinum.” Then it gives you settings like “control who sees you” where you can choose to only be seen by those you swipe or be seen by anyone. Obviously the downside of not being seen by anyone is: if you’re really attractive or you buy boosts: no one…
/r/seduction19/09/21 10:23 PM
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If you pay tinder $5/month you can select an option to only show your profile to those that you've swiped on (As a guy no matter how good looking you are you really should pay, significantly improves your matches and match quality, the $20/mo membership makes your likes appear as a priority above free users. If you're not paying your profile is not even ever being shown to the vast majority of girls you swipe on.)
/r/seduction19/09/21 04:56 PM
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Thanks that's really helpful, I think I'm going to sublease a spot for a couple months down there to get a feel for Raleigh & Franklin St before leasing for a year. Aside from location, are there any apartment complexes/buildings you know of that have a lot of college students/young professionals? Would any near the downtown areas fit the bill? I know there are some really nice high rise buildings down there but if it's all old retired people living there that's not what I'm looking for obv
/r/seduction25/07/21 05:13 PM
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Not at all. You stated a problem about your looks in the first sentence. That women think you’re ugly in your third sentence. It sounds like you think your looks are hurting you, it sounds like your feelings about your looks are really important to you throughout this whole post really. You did not state any changes or details about your appearance. In my first sentence I stated “IF you’re currently...” recognizing that maybe you have made changes you’re not talking about here.
/r/seduction16/07/21 06:06 PM
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You don’t, you just accept you may be scared when you make your intentions clear. Paradoxically, if you accept that it’s okay to feel scared, you won’t feel scared anymore. The real issue is that you don’t think others will accept you if you’re scared or nervous and that that’s not okay. Do not do this at school or work. You will creep people out and you will develop a reputation and may have consequences. Not really avoidable with going direct. In my experience direct game is over hyped, the va…
/r/seduction16/07/21 05:24 PM
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Take out on a date and pull to their place, or pull to a field/park/lake since it’s summer time. Pop up tents are like $20, and you’ll look like the fucking wilderness man.
/r/seduction27/06/21 04:08 PM
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Disagree, Ik plenty of people in relationships who’s life revolves around smoking weed, drinking, playing video games, working shitty jobs and studying in school. That’s most guys tbh. Your ability to get into a relationship depends on how well you can connect emotionally with a girl.
/r/seduction24/06/20 03:33 PM
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Mm not getting girls every girl rejected my opener. Just blow out after blow out, it’s how it usually goes. I said I’ve approached over 200 girls. About 80 or so were on the campus of my university. Got a creep reputation. Most were 8-10 range in groups of 2-6. Still a virgin. Had one date if you can call it that (instant date, 30 minutes between classes) that went nowhere.
/r/seduction19/04/19 07:02 AM
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Lol different than my thread a while back. I made over 70 or 80 approaches on campus, most 8-10 range most in groups of 2-6 (hot girls are rarely alone). All direct, used similar openers as you. Got a creep reputation, all numbers flaked, one instant date but fizzled out (bad logistics). Most girls were very flattered/flustered on the open, but it destroyed comfort and as the interaction went on they’d get creeped out (Boldness isn’t exactly comfort inducing). Some were so nervous and creeped ou…
/r/seduction13/04/19 07:38 PM
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Bartender from what I’ve seen at the bars I’ve worked at is 1) Who you know 2) Do they have an opening available. I’ve seen bartenders try out with like 18 yrs experience but they don’t get called back. And when a spot opens up, one of the barbacks or waitresses or a bartender that has friends with the management/staff there gets it. Barback you just walk in and apply, be strong and ready to hustle it’s hard work at most bars. Reality is being a bartender doesn’t take much skill. Most people jus…
/r/seduction29/03/19 06:06 PM
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Most people use observational + situational openers or dancing. You’re probably going to college bars, they can be cliquey, there most people only approach successfully through mutual friends. Have to seem spontaneous/unintentional, nonchalant. If openers (or dancing) are delivered in a way that the girl perceives you to have an agenda with her she won’t want to talk/dance. Don’t feel pressured to immediately get in conversation after you open. You can leave (assuming you weren’t waiting expecta…
/r/seduction29/03/19 05:22 PM
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Don’t be direct on college campus unless you know the girl is into you and you won’t fuck up/make her uncomfortable any step of the way. Unless you have a big college you will get a creep reputation. Speaking from experience, was direct with over 70 girls in one semester, they were often in groups of 2-4+ as well so it really spread. The reality is that opening indirect, making banal conversation while fantasizing about each other and tuning out the words, making excuses to hang out, and eventua…
/r/seduction29/03/19 07:09 AM
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Not to be harsh but first I think you need to realize you are, in fact, full of shit. You claim to “know” the girls and have determined that their personalities are “basic.” You then claim you have difficulty making eye contact and developing friendships. YOU DO NOT KNOW THOSE GIRLS. By generalizing them all you make yourself a victim. “All these girls are too basic, all the ones with good personality are ugly, fuck I’m powerless.” First take care of yourself if you aren’t already, then against …
/r/seduction18/12/18 06:21 AM
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I sent the first text asking for pics, they wanted to face time. Would have had to make an excuse not to do it if facetiming is a bad thing. Decided to take the advice of "listen to your dad" and he thought that setting up a meet for drinks was a terrible idea and that they were just teasing, not dtf. Sent texts according to his advice after that, got ghosted.
/r/seduction13/06/18 05:22 PM
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Texted them, they face timed, was kinda nervous and was a tad awk for a moment b/c had to untangle headphones to hear them. Talked a bit, they told me about how it happened (My dad approaching them), they’re both 23, I’m 19 turning 20 soon. I suggested we get drinks some time at their place. They said they usually go to bars but yeah sure (they were uneasy/hesitating though), we didn’t set up a time today. According to them my Dad said something along the lines of I sleep all day and need to han…
/r/seduction12/06/18 10:59 PM
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Yeah my texts were retarded, I’m inexperienced outside of approaching, have done like 60 approaches and never got a date. Telling them to come over to my place isn’t an option, I’m at home with parents over the summer from college and our house is embarrassing. Dad did good here but he’s not perfect, he’s a hoarder. Would have to meet them at their place or in a car or something. Dad recommended I follow that text up with something along the lines of “You know I’m still trying to wrap my head ar…
/r/seduction12/06/18 09:20 PM
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yes, all day game.
/r/seduction11/06/18 08:07 PM
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I’m curious as to how this actually worked for you, especially since you’re on a college campus like me it seems (You mentioned a sorority group). I made a post about a month ago. I’ve done about 60 approaches, all direct, many in groups of 2-6 (at least half). Ended up getting a creep reputation. Even if girls were seemingly having a positive experience in the moment, the next day they were guarded around me. All numbers flaked. As for the “dare” mindset, I don’t go in with that mindset but get…
/r/seduction11/06/18 03:54 PM
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1) Just pay attention to the moment and use observational skills. Then use that information in your openers. So essentially are you saying I should try observational/situational openers? I saw 2 videos by Todd Valentine on those kinds of opens, I don't think they're bad (Seems to be what 99% of people use outside of PUA community) but the few times I've tried them it felt inauthentic, cheesy, and needy. Kind of got drilled into me from Models that you should just express your genuine interest in…
/r/seduction16/05/18 01:07 AM
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4) I mean, the primary, easy, low-hanging fruit in conversation is following up on what they said. Not making jokes, crass or otherwise. Not talking about Judo. Yeah I'm conflicted, I've tried both just keeping the conversation focused on them hoping they'd eventually ask me questions back. I've also tried sharing myself and hoping that encourages them to share themselves back. Models explicitly advocates the latter. Which does mean talking about things that are important to me like Judo, or exp…
/r/seduction16/05/18 01:06 AM
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_5_ No, man. Models doesn't advocate making awkward approaches in some self-absorbed way where you are unaware of the other person and just trying to steamroller them. You aren't following Models. The missing piece here seems to be empathy. Which again, is not simply apologizing for being awkward but still being awkward. It's actually calibrating. I did try to study calibration because I thought that was the missing piece leading to me creeping women out. Models largely glosses over calibration.…
/r/seduction13/05/18 01:27 AM
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First I just want to say thank you, I apreciate that you’re willing to help/work with me here. You didn’t come off as aggressive, I may seem argumentative in response to points 2 and 5 because it does seem to contradict my understanding of Models. I’m a tad stubborn, and I realize that how I perceived a situation may not have been how it actually occurred (Hard to get a second opinion without infields), although I do think I’m fairly adept at reading body language and telling if someone is genui…
/r/seduction13/05/18 01:22 AM
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Fakes not accepted at any bar in our area. Would have to take train into city (Or pay a really expensive uber). That friend of mine also doesn't drink. Also I'm a junior, and from what I've seen new members generally just act as pledge drivers and don't actually participate. Short on time. If you think that's not an issue I'll look into it come next semester.
/r/seduction08/05/18 01:01 AM
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I invest most of my time into one club, into lifting, and into studies. I don't connect with anyone in that club. I don't think I really want to anymore either, lots of conflicting values and they don't really go out, I won't meet people through them. Haven't really tried to connect w/ people at the gym, have failed to connect w/ people in my major so far. I'm missing the part where I have a friend group that I hang out with and go out with, not the being busy with hobbies/studies part. I don't …
/r/seduction08/05/18 12:52 AM
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I'm familiar with Todd V. I've watched most of his youtube stuff and saw his "winner game" course, I was considering that maybe the problem was with direct game. I also considered: "Well, there's this subreddit full of people that praise direct game, Models is written by someone who has coached hundreds of men giving them direct game, I know one friend that is successful with direct game, so is it really that the problem is direct game or me?" Hard to say, maybe models is full of crap, maybe sed…
/r/seduction07/05/18 11:50 PM
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I've considered recording audio w/ my phone. Haven't done it out of insecurity, I feel that it's creepy. Not sure how I would film video. I also posted this at the end of my semester, I have not done an approach in about 2 weeks. I leave Thursday. I should be studying right now probably, but this is on my mind and I'm not good at repressing things to do work anymore. I want to try to get this handled over the summer. Looking into any music festivals/concerts that will have a lot of people my age…
/r/seduction07/05/18 11:32 PM
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Usually leads to short conversation. Very few auto rejections, most short conversations. One factor that may play into that is a lot of the time they were sitting down somewhere either eating or studying. I considered that maybe I just wasn't being polarizing enough, maybe I showed subtle neediness, maybe I just didn't connect enough. Then I consider the magnitude of my approaches and think: "Am I really communicating in such a needy and/or boring way that I should be getting chronically rejecte…
/r/seduction07/05/18 11:06 PM
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Yes. Sometimes they let you in if you have a ratio of 6 attractive girls to one guy. Sometimes. Most of the time they still don't let you in. Some club sports have parties, but they're usually smaller and often closed off to people in the club. My club used to host "parties" for example, but they've gotten smaller and smaller and now it's usually just hive mind team drinking bonding time, I don't connect with them but I still usually went. They've slowed down. Or maybe they just got smaller and …
/r/seduction07/05/18 10:42 PM
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I have gotten numbers. I would only ask if she seemed to feel secure, was single, and the conversation wasn't boring. All but two resulted in me being ghosted before seeing each other again (a few times I never got any reply whatsoever), the two that didn't resulted in some variation of that's sweet but no thx. Numbers are meaningless to me, doesn't mean that they're going to go out. One that ghosted me was pretty invested however, she was very reciprocative but had to reschedule seeing me twice…
/r/seduction07/05/18 10:24 PM
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Based on your writing, your mindset is very focused on the negative. Your first priority should be to give yourself props. Once you get home after going out, write a field report in which you write out three things you did well. At one point I did start reflecting and writing very brief things about my interactions. The thing is, the positives I get, like all the ones you've mentioned which I have actually given myself credit for in the past, really don't matter to me now. 60 isn't much? Also, i…
/r/seduction07/05/18 10:06 PM
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Joining a frat is expensive, would have to take out loans. Also I doubt I could get in one. They all haze, from friends that are in frats a lot of the questions are about sex. Obviously being a kissless virgin, I'd have to have a lot of good lies that I feel very secure telling. I've only met one person at my college that cold approaches. He's direct, but is also extremely physically attractive. He's extremely popular, lots of success with girls. I've asked him for advice, he thinks that I might…
/r/seduction07/05/18 09:09 PM
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Not sure how you got that from my post. I'm the hyper aware type when it comes to social cues, not the socially oblivious. Used to have tremendous anxiety as a result. If I had autism, I wouldn't notice that people feel insecure around me and would just continue striking up conversation with people that actually are creeped out by me. I would keep hitting up my "friends" to hang out despite signs that they don't actually enjoy having me around and do not respect what I say or do. I notice when p…
/r/seduction07/05/18 08:56 PM
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1) 19. 2) Idk, 7 maybe. Probably more subjective to the girl since I’m muscular but skinny. Girls have checked me out, although less lately (idk if it’s coincidence or hairline receding). In a lecture last semester I heard 2 girls whisper “he’s so cute.” I smiled. They whispered “He just smiled.” Didn’t have as much confidence back then, wanted to turn around & smile at them & approach later, approach anxiety got the better of me. 3) Yes sometimes. If they’re sitting down, rarely. Feels natural …
/r/seduction22/03/18 02:15 PM
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I absolutely agree I struggle building emotional connection. Feels very difficult to elicit emotions that they actually care about. As for the PUA vibe, I doubt I have that b/c I’m very blunt. Ie: “Hey running in front of her I realize it looks like, I just ran from all the way down there panting that’s exactly what I just did, hi I just thought you were cute and wanted to meet you.” Maybe I’m not as good at reading social cues as I think, but in that interaction at least she seemed interested a…
/r/seduction22/03/18 05:44 AM
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I’ve tried small specific compliments but I’m not a good actor and chances are if I have to look for something to compliment her on, its not genuine. When it is genuine, haven’t noticed a difference as opposed to just saying I thought they were cute/attractive or w/e. When it’s not genuine it’s very awkward very fast. As for qualification, I do find that I mostly will state things about myself in an attempt to elicit something from her (doesn’t work unless she’s invested). I also state things ab…
/r/seduction22/03/18 05:02 AM
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Thanks, I appreciate the reply and I've considered that it is true that I can't be friends with them. I have doubts because its usually a case of the girl offering to be friends with me after being attracted but having some kind of friction (ie. boyfriend) that I'm interested in befriending. I also think that platonic friendships/aquaintances may have more value than you're giving credit. I also see no reason why filling up my contact list with platonic friends has to be viewed as such a big tim…
/r/seduction31/01/18 11:56 PM
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"How to establish a dictatorship in 1 step! (with pictures)" sounds more interesting
/r/seduction19/05/17 04:54 AM
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He explains that vulnerability doesn't mean emotional vomit. It can mean that, that's a type of vulnerability, but it's not always appropriate. Vulnerability can be as simple as "I thought you were cute and I wanted to meet you." You're expressing your desire unconditionally and making yourself vulnerable to rejection. It can be "I'm really nervous but I wanted to get to know you." Again, you're expressing your emotions and making yourself vulnerable to rejection. I'm pretty sure he emphasizes t…
/r/seduction23/03/17 11:09 PM
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