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Charge36/r/seduction03/11/13 09:19 AM
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Charge36/r/seduction27/10/13 12:03 AM
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If you don't like doing it you don't have to
/r/seduction23/07/26 06:57 PM
5

Some girls are into objectification and dominance play. Others aren't. Ideally you have a decent idea if she'll respond well to this before dropping it on a chick your going to offend mid bone
/r/seduction22/07/26 10:58 PM
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You're reading way too far into this. I wouldn't even call it an interesting question from her. If you want to keep talking to her tell her who you went with and that it was super fun, too bad she didn't make it. Then shift gears and invited to something else Or don't talk to her. Whatever. She's not super reliable so either way I would keep pursuing whatever options you have besides her
/r/seduction14/07/26 01:40 AM
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You need to step off the gas then. More pressure isn't the way to get this girl into bed. It might well not be possible with her ever, but she's uncomfortable and you need to address that before trying to go any further
/r/seduction30/06/26 07:25 PM
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Even if your goal is to just hook up, you should treat it like a date. If the texting is flowing decently well after matching, propose a Meetup after 3 to 5 messages. Go for drinks see if you vibe and invite her back to your place to escalate
/r/seduction30/06/26 01:40 AM
5

She was okay with kissing and hugging but not okay with sex. There's really nothing else to explain about it
/r/seduction30/06/26 01:02 AM
3

Yep. She didn't want it. And you shouldn't beg for it. Or show outward disappointment in her rejection. A Confident man knows that there are women out there who want him, and this one just isn't one of them.
/r/seduction30/06/26 12:56 AM
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What are you confused about? It's almost like she could tell you have a fragile ego and didn't want to hurt your feelings with a rejection...... But She's not going to kiss you or fuck you just to spare your feelings. You put her in a difficult position. To me it sounds like you persisted too much trying to get to her hotel room and then acted butt hurt when she didn't invite you in.
/r/seduction30/06/26 12:39 AM
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Sure. That's not a bad MO for an afternoon date. I mostly do evening dates. I don't mind buying 2 or 3 rounds of drinks on a date. And more often than not they'll offer to buy the second or third round, and three rounds is plenty for a first date. It's still cheaper than dinner but enough to show that you are willing and capable of paying for stuff. There is still some value on nonchalantly spending a few bucks on a girl, but you definitely shouldn't go all out on a nice restaurant early in a re…
/r/seduction30/06/26 12:03 AM
5

Take them out for drinks. But yeah name of the game is low investment. Honestly I think restaurant dates are kind of terrible.
/r/seduction29/06/26 11:53 PM
10

She just didn't want to have sex with you. It's not that deep. Personally I don't think you should ever try to "convince" a girl to sleep with you. If she doesn't want to, it just looks pathetic as fuck to ask her why or try to change her mind. And you're not going to change her mind. Just say "yeah sure no problem. Have a good evening" and leave.
/r/seduction29/06/26 11:51 PM
44

I've been advocating trinary scale for a while now.
/r/seduction29/06/26 10:41 PM
22

I don't think anybody will say height doesn't matter at all. There are lots of other important factors that are fully within any guys control. But yeah all other things equal, a shorter guy is going to have to have stronger social skills than a taller guy to end up with the same level of success with women.
/r/seduction21/06/26 07:19 PM
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A lot of those places the point isn't to pull women but to just be social and maintain a regular habit of approaching women and being comfortable talking to them so you don't lose your mojo when you're talking to a hot woman at a party.
/r/seduction20/06/26 11:30 PM
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This might work with some women but I think it is a bit too direct if it's just some girl you met on the street. Or in the club.
/r/seduction20/06/26 07:47 PM
1

Ok but you still haven't defined what "working" means. Like you took a girl home?
/r/seduction19/06/26 06:25 PM
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You shouldn't consider how quickly she hooked up with the other guy at all. Pretend it never happened. It's irrelevant to your relationship with her If you've already talked about potentially getting a hotel I think you've primed the pump enough to propose a date idea including a hotel as part of the evening plans.
/r/seduction18/06/26 07:07 PM
18

Define "worked"?
/r/seduction18/06/26 06:43 AM
1

Like most things there's nuance to the proper way to do things. Persistence isn't inherently bad, what's bad is persisting in spite of clear resistance or disinterest. I'm currently seeing a girl who's admittedly a quite terrible texter and not the best with a calendar. She regularly forgets to respond to me, and occasionally double books dates with me and has to cancel. I persisted in texting her because she was always apologetic when she did remember to text me and it had been a while, and she…
/r/seduction16/06/26 12:04 AM
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If you make sure she has a good time by whatever means necessary, she will not trip up over the occasional performance issues
/r/seduction15/06/26 11:04 PM
0

I don't think it's the worst thing a guy could do. The dancers are there to flirt with you so it's a good place to engage and practice those skills if you have extreme social anxiety and just literally have no idea what flirting actually looks like. Chat up the girls, have fun, go for a dance if you actually like her vibe. I find the dances with girls I actually vibed with for 10 or 15 minutes are genuinely better and these girls will sometimes encourage you to break the usual "no touching" rule…
/r/seduction15/06/26 09:21 PM
9

I don't think it means much but by all means say hello and see where it goes
/r/seduction12/04/26 03:31 PM
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How old are you guys? None of this social media drama makes any fucking sense to me as a millennial. IMO you're both insecure as fuck about these other people on social media
/r/seduction29/03/26 09:08 PM
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Overall not too bad. I wouldn't ask if you're annoying her. Comes off as insecure. Do pay attention to her demeanor though. If she seems very uninterested or irritated then just tell her it was nice talking and say goodbye. It's a good sign she re-initiated conversation a few minutes later. She may have genuinely just needed directions but she felt comfortable enough to ask you.
/r/seduction29/03/26 07:48 PM
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I had a woman get the ick when I gave them a chocolate bar as a birthday gift on the first date. lesson learned was that gifts on first dates often come across as too eager to please. I can't imagine a woman actually being comfortable/agreeing to you buying them dress and underwear on a first date unless they were just straight up using you to buy things.
/r/seduction23/03/26 08:20 PM
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I like the idea but....little surprised a woman would want to do this on a first date?
/r/seduction23/03/26 05:48 PM
51

I can't think of a more terrible reason to go traveling
/r/seduction17/03/26 04:15 AM
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He literally didn't. He was dragged to one class and never went back
/r/seduction16/03/26 06:11 PM
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What do you mean you just practiced conversations nonstop for a day? Joining clubs isn't just about directly meeting single women. It's about meeting people and growing your social network. You shouldn't expect to just show up at a single wine tasting or salsa class and expect no one else there knows anyone....these are established communities you are trying to join. If you stick around for a few months you will become integrated but you can't expect to just be part of the club if you're just pa…
/r/seduction16/03/26 06:08 PM
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I never felt like errand stores were a great place to meet women. Better to meet women at some kind of social club revolving around a mutual interest. Move out of the suburbs if you're a single dude unless you want to hang yourself
/r/seduction13/03/26 04:36 AM
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she definitely didn't need a car for her day-to-day life. She lives downtown and walking distance to work and everything she needs to do regularly. Genuinely if you don't need a car to commute, it's probably cheaper to take Ubers around for the oddball occasions you need a ride
/r/seduction12/03/26 12:48 AM
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Same. If it takes more than ~30 mins to get to her place I am highly likey not to bother with it for more than a few dates. Recently was seeing a girl without a car who only lived like 10 mins from me and after a few dates I was already tired of driving her back and forth to my place. We met at hers a few times but her place kinda sucked. I don't see her anymore
/r/seduction11/03/26 06:18 PM
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You can propose a place that's close to hers also. I would probably still go on a "halfway date" but the logistics are not good
/r/seduction11/03/26 01:49 AM
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I mean yeah be direct but you can't open with "I'm looking for someone to date and I think you'll do"
/r/seduction03/03/26 05:18 AM
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"Hey, let's stop with the games." Don't do this. There's a really good chance she's not playing games at all and it's just coming in as a customer and will have no idea what you're talking about when you drop this on her. The world doesn't revolve around you. That said by all means shoot your shot. Strike up a conversation next time she comes in or go over there and see her
/r/seduction28/02/26 06:24 AM
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Late 20s is not "old" by a long shot. In your late 20s, I wouldn't pursue anyone under 21. Ideally you probably want to go no younger than about 23 to make sure you find someone at least a few years out of school and has learned how to order a drink at the bar. I think it's ok to date younger within reason. especially if you feel immature for your age, but don't use that as an excuse to stay immature. You should always strive to become a better and better version of yourself
/r/seduction27/02/26 07:55 PM
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Personally I can't get into it. The handful of times I ended up in bed with a large woman I regretted it the next day. Getting myself off is a chore because I'm not attracted to them and I tend to put in less effort as a lover because I just am not very attracted and turned on.
/r/seduction27/02/26 07:42 PM
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Eh. I did better by gaining weight rather than cutting. But also I'm pretty sure I've only got a 4 pack down there. I cut to a borderline underweight and 4 ripples was all that ever appeared even with months of training
/r/seduction11/02/26 04:13 AM
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He might not have known. You thought yours were bugbites. For all you know they might have been bug bites, you didn't get them tested. The way I see it you don't have anything to disclose yet. You don't know that you have genital herpes.
/r/seduction07/02/26 03:42 PM
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Reading a poem? Sounds a bit cringe to me but if it works for you I guess keep it up
/r/seduction07/02/26 02:02 AM
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I asked my doctor about herpes blood test once and she basically refused to order one. Said the false positive rate was really high and creates unnecessary anxiety and stigma.
/r/seduction07/02/26 02:01 AM
1

Assertiveness is important. Nobody likes a spineless human
/r/seduction05/02/26 12:31 AM
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I didn't say be sweet. I said be confident and assertive. Asshole guys attract insecure women. It's really not a relationship mode you should envy
/r/seduction04/02/26 06:08 PM
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You're right on all of your accounts and the advice to take on a personality that isn't you is bad advice. The good advice here is to be yourself but also develop yourself into the best possible version of yourself. You don't have to be macho but self confidence, social skills, and assertiveness are universally attractive traits that anyone can develop
/r/seduction04/02/26 06:05 PM
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I mean sometimes you do need to change though. If you're just being an entitled misogynistic asshole and not getting dates then yeah you need to think about developing social skills and empathy.
/r/seduction04/02/26 06:02 PM
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Literally nothing. Free speech means the government can't arrest you for voicing opinions. That's it. If other people don't like what you say they are completely free to remove you from their communities. Free speech does not entitle you to speak opinions to communities that don't want to hear it
/r/seduction04/02/26 05:57 PM
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What sub bans users for participating here?
/r/seduction04/02/26 05:41 PM
1

Persecution? Relax. Getting banned from an internet forum is hardly persecution. You may think other communities rules are absurd but they are free to make their rules for their community. I am banned from a handful of places because I occasionally comment in right wing subs to provide reality checks on wild delusions propagating in those communities, but I don't view these bans as some great moral injustice. It's just an internet forum dude.
/r/seduction04/02/26 05:40 PM
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I hate to break it to you but if they disappear after the first date, then the first date did not go well
/r/seduction03/02/26 05:58 PM
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You may "feel comfortable" but asking about it repeatedly telegraphs anxiety and neediness about this to everyone reading this. I was one of the people suggesting that you propose a time AND Place but I also said this should wait a few more days. It didn't work in part because you just keep hammering her about the exact time multiple times despite her not responding to that. Take a hint and back off until it's closer to the date and she has a better grip on her schedule. There's a difference bet…
/r/seduction03/02/26 05:54 PM
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Why would you ask the question twice if it's not urgent? You feel uncomfortable with having no set time, so you keep asking her to set a time, even though it's still multiple days away. This is needy behavior and she's going to pick up on it. She doesn't want to talk about it yet so take the hint and stop asking! You should propose both a time and place. Right now you're basically putting all the date planning logistic work on her instead of being a man and coming up with a plan and inviting her…
/r/seduction02/02/26 02:56 PM
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what is the urgency with setting a time? the dates not for 4 more days dude. I would have sent her a proposed time and place like...Wednesday evening. You should drop it for now. Figure out the time later. It's a bit of a weird question but like. You gotta learn how to converse and banter a bit. come up with a funny or interesting reply like "I only like plants I can eat" or "I like plants but they don't like me" or something. You went on a date with her, maybe there's inside knowledge you can m…
/r/seduction02/02/26 03:22 AM
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Yeah it might work if she's already interested. In this situation I think it would be better for OP to propose a specific time and location on Thursday evening. Monday is way too soon to be asking "if they're still on"
/r/seduction01/02/26 04:28 PM
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You ask too many boring questions and aren't very assertive. You already have a time for this date. Thursday evening. You can figure out a specific time the day before or the morning of. People don't always respond to every single thing you mentioned in a text and that's normal. Not everything needs response. If you wanted to keep messaging there's plenty you could say. "Yes of course sleeping counts :)" I would definitely not ask for the time and justify it with "I have to plan my week". fuck d…
/r/seduction01/02/26 04:26 PM
1

No he's an jealous insecure idiot for completely losing his mojo when a girl mentioned another guy that she specifically said she wanted to stop seeing. I would have read that as "hey this other guy sucks but you seem cool and now I realize I want to ditch him" Dude had it in the bag and let his ego get the better of him!
/r/seduction28/01/26 04:07 AM
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You're an idiot. If you can't handle the competition, don't play the game. She was quite literally telling you she didn't like the guy while telling you how much fun she was having and inviting you back to hers. Get a grip dude, in this modern day guys and girls are both seeing multiple people at a time
/r/seduction27/01/26 11:09 PM
5

Just because someone wrote it in a book doesn't mean it's true
/r/seduction27/01/26 05:51 AM
1

I think she was interested before the date, and then you kinda botched the flirting and physical escalation. You can generally touch hands / arms without explicit permission if you do so in a socially appropriate way. Asking for permission to touch does kinda kill vibes, but stating your desires (I really want to kiss you right now) keeps your frame strong while giving them an opportunity to respond verbally. Just "going for a kiss" can work, but if you haven't been flirting or engaging in less …
/r/seduction26/01/26 06:46 PM
4

Talk to more women. You need to develop social skills
/r/seduction23/01/26 04:55 AM
2

I don't think it's worth worrying about. I know a couple people who have it and it's not a big deal. Just use protection and get tested regularly. To be clear are you asking this question over text before you've even gone on a date? that's what you're making it sound like and that's a really terrible time to ask this question
/r/seduction21/01/26 05:58 AM
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It's not so much the information they bring as the support they give and the ability to discuss your specific situation with someone who actually will give you decent advice and feedback. I hired a coach for a little less than a year and they pushed me to do things I probably never would have otherwise
/r/seduction16/01/26 05:57 AM
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I'm not saying that they do have a magic sense. I'm saying that dudes who have this attitude behave a certain way in their interactions that is unattractive. Yeah theoretically you could have a guy who knows how to "perform" the right attitudes and behaviors while secretly harboring this bad attitude, but thats like, The definition of a sociopath
/r/seduction12/01/26 08:35 PM
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You're letting your victim mentality speak for you. It's not impossible to connect with women and you haven't tried everything. Guys who are successful with women treat them like humans that have their own interests and desires. They listen and engage with what she has to say. They create sexual tension with appropriate levels of flirting and touching, constantly reading her response and accelerating or pumping the brakes as needed. Thinking about women as sex objects will ooze out of a mans int…
/r/seduction12/01/26 07:38 PM
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If you want specific answers you need to ask specific questions
/r/seduction12/01/26 06:45 PM
2

I guarantee you the dudes you talking about that sleep with a lot of women are not treating them like objects.
/r/seduction12/01/26 04:06 PM
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Bunch of drivel
/r/seduction12/01/26 05:16 AM
1

Depends what you're calling a date I guess. I consider anytime I hook up with someone a date. Maybe it's just a bottle of wine at my place before we have sex but it's still a date
/r/seduction09/01/26 08:49 AM
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I mean you usually still have to take a FWB on dates. It's less serious than having a girlfriend but you still have to seduce them.
/r/seduction09/01/26 07:27 AM
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I couldn't date a Christian chick personally. I used to date a girl who was conservative but not religious. it was okay at first but slowly over time it became evident our moral values were very different and it lead to conflict.
/r/seduction09/01/26 03:51 AM
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She already didn't respond to your text. What makes you think she'll respond if you reach out again? Being bored is a pretty weak reason for wanting to reach out to someone. Shows you have nothing better to do
/r/seduction09/01/26 02:56 AM
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Don't think four to six times for day is really necessary or has anything to do with gas. Some of us out here just have IBS.
/r/seduction08/01/26 02:54 PM
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Hard to diagnose but you're probably coming off too strong, or not establishing a flirty sexy vibe. Women don't want a guy to take care of them they want a guy to make their pussies tingle
/r/seduction03/01/26 07:35 PM
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Fourth is don't take a girl to McDonald's
/r/seduction03/01/26 07:19 PM
2

Before? Maybe but I don't think I would push it. It's definitely a good sign and a good opportunity for her to get comfortable with you in her place. I think a better plan is to meet at her place, drink a bit, go out and do whatever you're doing for the night, walk her home, come in on some pretense, and escalate from there. If you've already kissed her you might even be able to be pretty direct with pretense or "want to go back to your place and make out on the couch a bit?" Otherwise just make…
/r/seduction03/01/26 09:45 AM
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There's already plenty of information how to do this. The whole basis of social circle gaming
/r/seduction03/01/26 01:11 AM
1

No effort? So how long is it going to take me to build up my million dollar passive income business / attraction funnell and how much of my time am I going to have to dedicate to that? Like I get what you're saying but you haven't really provided concrete Actionable advice for guys. You're just saying "being rich and having status is better than not being rich and having status". No fucking shit dude.
/r/seduction02/01/26 08:03 PM
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It's not an either or situation, and wealth / career status is only one way you can have status. You can develop social skills and develop social status within various niche communities and none of that depends on your career or wealth situation but it is just as effective in terms of impact on seduction. For example: bartenders aren't very wealthy. But they do interact with shitloads of women and have the plug on tons of exclusive industry or underground events. You don't have to be wealthy to …
/r/seduction02/01/26 07:58 PM
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I think dan bilzerian is a pretty terrible role model for pickup. He was born into wealth. That's not really an actionable item for a guy looking to improve his dating life. Also he just kind of sucks as a human I don't understand why people like him
/r/seduction31/12/25 11:39 PM
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Developing social skills is more achievable for most than attaining top 1% wealth status. And it's very easy to completely lose touch with developing connections with women if you are focused on gr8d ing your way into high income status. How many guys have you seen on here that are late 30s, wealthy, and can't get a woman to give him the time of day because he completely neglected his social skills development? I hear what you're saying. But social skills are always going to be important regardl…
/r/seduction31/12/25 07:55 PM
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Yeah sure. They're not mutually exclusive. Money and social skills are both important. But I'd rather have the social skills if I had to choose
/r/seduction31/12/25 07:50 PM
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I'd rather be a charming middle class guy than a rich asshole. Many of those rich guys with hot wives are actually terrible people and the women are taking advantage of them.
/r/seduction31/12/25 07:15 PM
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You get out of it what you put in. I had an arrangement where I had a call with my coach once a week and could text him basically whenever. Worked with him For about a year. Was it an immediate game changer in my success with women? No. But it was very helpful to have a guy in my corner whose job was to help me reflect and dissect what I was doing wrong in my various dates and encounters and what I could improve on. In a lot of ways, he was responsible for me realizing that I needed a major life…
/r/seduction29/12/25 08:35 PM
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In my experience most numbers are flaky from cold approach. I used to celebrate getting them but now I realize how small of an achievement it truly is. I celebrate once a number turns into a date
/r/seduction26/12/25 08:57 PM
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Why not black sheets? I like them precisely because they don't show stains.
/r/seduction23/12/25 02:44 AM
1

I would just relax. Sometimes slowness is a sign of disinterest, sometimes it's just how they are, but in any case the anxiety is self-inflicted. Chill. Don't text her when you're feeling anxious.
/r/seduction21/12/25 12:28 AM
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A Little bullshitting and rapport can be okay over text, but it's easy to overdo. If I hit a girl up and she tells me she's going to be out of town for 2 or 3 weeks, it's not worth setting up a date right then but you can exchange a few messages at that point to vibe a bit. Same idea with pings. Helps to keep you on her radar if logistics don't permit meeting, and you can vibe for a few messages if she's responsive
/r/seduction21/12/25 12:27 AM
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Sounds to me like you're both playing games. Text with intention. If it's going to be a couple weeks because youre out of town for holidays you don't need to be in touch every single day. Ping her with a Christmas / new years message and once you're back in town you can hit her up to set up a date
/r/seduction20/12/25 10:59 PM
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Personally I would have not asked to to workout together. Don't think that's a very good date. Something like "very smooth using my missing phone to get my number. I owe ya a drink!" Would have been better
/r/seduction20/12/25 10:53 PM
1

It's been 1hr. Relax
/r/seduction20/12/25 10:48 PM
1

Now that iPhone has finally upgraded to RCS there's much less of a chance of messaging issues. But before it was a total crap shoot, and there was no feedback to know if your message was delivered or not. Even so I think there's plenty of good reasons why someone who's interested may not respond right away. Maybe they saw your text and got busy and forgot about it. Missing one message is a fluke. Missing two is suspicious. Missing three is intentional. I find the hardcore rules around "double te…
/r/seduction20/12/25 04:41 PM
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So first date goes fine and she gets busy and forgets to respond to a single text and you just let her go without reaching out again? Seems wild to me but OK Part of the reason I am willing to send a few messages before calling quits is because technical issues still happen on occasion with sms. I have had instances of messages I sent just straight up never getting delivered in the last few years. Would be a terrible way to end an otherwise budding connection to assume she got a message and igno…
/r/seduction19/12/25 07:52 PM
1

Like not back to back. A few days to a week between each. Usually I stop after 2. Three is absolute max I will never exceed
/r/seduction19/12/25 03:43 AM
6

I had a girl who invited me into "check out her paintings" when I was dropping her off after a date. I almost laughed out loud because it's exactly the same thing I would ask a girl who was droppong me at my place.
/r/seduction19/12/25 02:14 AM
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Personally I'd never agree to a date with someone that lived 4 hours away but if for some reason I did I think it's better to meet them all the way there than halfway. I used to live on the outskirts of a city and every time we picked a "halfway place" it was always some shitty strip mall bar that wasn't close to either of our places. Now if I meet a girl that lives far away I'll propose we meet somewhere that's close to one of our places just so the logistics are good to bounce somewhere privat…
/r/seduction19/12/25 02:13 AM
2

There's a right and wrong way to multiple text. Wrong way is getting tilted that they aren't responding to you. But you can use multiple texts in a way that punctuates what you're saying, or builds suspense. Or at least just doesn't make a big deal that, for whatever reason, they didn't respond to your previous message. My personal rule is send up to 3 max texts without a response. If she's not responding after that it's time to let it go.
/r/seduction19/12/25 01:07 AM
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I don't understand the question. You haven't even met him? What do you mean by keeping him around?
/r/seduction15/12/25 07:31 AM
9

It's a lot of risk with little payoff. I tend to talk to women at those type of events because it's less boring than talking to Old Men about work, but I rarely try to escalate anything.
/r/seduction14/12/25 07:48 PM
2

Was out at bars with a bachelor party. It was late, we were waiting for Uber home and I was talking to a girl on the sidewalk for a few minutes. Uber arrived and I asked her if she wanted to get in she said yes. We hung out at the house for a few minutes on the rooftop before I took her down to one of the dudes rooms and fucked her. More recently matched a girl on feeld. I sent a message and she replied a couple days later, 7pm on a Saturday asking me what I was doing that night. Told her I had …
/r/seduction14/12/25 05:44 PM
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Were these mostly local women or expats? I traveled in Thailand for a month. I didn't find crazy success on tinder / meeting locals but the traveler / expat community was pretty solid. Hooked up with a very cute European girl.
/r/seduction14/12/25 05:34 PM
2

If the sex was bad and she's avoiding you what makes you think she has any interest anymore? If you want to get better at sex read some women's fantasy books. My secret garden is a good one. Or watch porn made for women. It tends to show what they actually like better than mainstream porn
/r/seduction14/12/25 12:53 AM
2

Chasing is not the same as leading. You can be proactive and lead the interactions without being needy or chasing Yes at some point she needs to be invested and text you back, but it's really not that uncommon to get a woman who's not going to initiate texting with you ever. It doesn't mean she's not interested, some women just don't initiate
/r/seduction13/12/25 11:40 PM
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I mean. Maybe? In my experience if I don't text a woman sometimes she just never gets in touch. You need to be proactive but not needy
/r/seduction13/12/25 11:28 PM
5

For most girls all the fun stuff happens on the outside. You don't need to finger her at all to get her off. Most girls don't put fingers in when they masturbate. Even when you're fingering you want to use less of an in and out motion and more of a "come hither" motion with your fingers pressing the anterior side of the vagina (gspot) If you rub her or eat her out until she comes, she will be wet enough for you to have sex with her. Also likely very eager for you to put it in.
/r/seduction13/12/25 09:48 PM
6

I recently started seeing someone who I clicked with very well sexually right off the bat. She's not the most responsive of texters though, going hours or sometimes a whole day without responding. At first I thought it was a bad sign but we've been together four or five times now and every time has been electric in the bedroom. Best thing you can do is try not to overreact and blow up her phone. Wait a day or two at least to reach out if she doesn't respond to you. Keep inviting her out for date…
/r/seduction13/12/25 09:44 PM
2

I'm a little confused. Going down usually means giving oral, but then you said it was tight and she said it hurts and that you came. Did you eat her out or did you have sex with her? I've never been with a virgin girl but yes it can be uncomfortable for them. I don't think it should have hurt. You should probably stop and check in if a woman is telling you that, not just continue on your Merry way.
/r/seduction13/12/25 09:37 PM
0

Best case scenario it's a really disgusting joke.
/r/seduction08/12/25 02:09 AM
1

The people who insist on getting phone numbers over Instagram don't seem to realize how much easier it is to actually get engagement on IG
/r/seduction04/12/25 10:56 PM
1

It's incredibly poorly written and unclear who even likes who in the scenario
/r/seduction02/12/25 02:48 AM
1

I wouldn't have to assume things about you if you could clearly communicate what the fuck is happening
/r/seduction02/12/25 02:34 AM
0

You're making no fucking sense. I reread you post and I think you mean you are the guy who still has feelings after getting out of a bad relationship with someone else? Do yourself your favor and stop entertaining this idea. It's been at least months, possibly years since you split with this ex and it's highly likely she has moved on. It's kind of pathetic that you havent
/r/seduction02/12/25 02:31 AM
1

I mean. Sounds like she said she likes you so what's the issue? Personally I'd avoid getting involved again but it's not very clear what the situation is
/r/seduction02/12/25 01:33 AM
2

You bought followers because you're a loner? Do you feel less lonely now ?
/r/seduction30/11/25 06:43 AM
2

If you have a boring Instagram you're not fooling anybody
/r/seduction30/11/25 06:42 AM
1

I think he's saying he's been with six women in as many months. Pretty good honestly
/r/seduction29/11/25 07:05 AM
1

You hook up with one new girl a week on dating apps? That's pretty insane honestly
/r/seduction29/11/25 07:04 AM
1

I joined an amateur performing group that's mostly women. They're all hot, have hot friends, and sometimes we all get in a hot tub together naked. It rules.
/r/seduction28/11/25 07:44 PM
1

Why?
/r/seduction25/11/25 07:07 PM
2

Couple things You are way overthinking this. You don't need to compile 2 months worth of "signs" before making a move. You probably should come up with another pretense besides scoring to talk to her. Or don't. Just hit her up on an IG story or sit by her and ask if she wants to go get ice cream or whatever high schoolers do these days
/r/seduction25/11/25 01:06 AM
1

Join a dance club
/r/seduction24/11/25 09:56 PM
14

It's a good start. Keep going out and socializing and try to mix in a little flirting / sexual topics. One concept that helped me was thinking about the topic of sex as a ladder. The lowest rungs are sexual topics about other people, or even taking about sex in a slightly negative way. In practice maybe you're talking about a TV show or movie and say "I can't believe so and so hooked up with so and so, he's gross" If she seems invested talking about sex you can move up the ladder. Talk about sex…
/r/seduction24/11/25 09:54 PM
6

For most women, inviting them straight to your place will be a little bit too on the nose. Usually better to give a few options to hang nearby and then pitch a "hey want to have one more drink at my place? We can play a game/ listen to music/ etc"
/r/seduction24/11/25 09:39 PM
3

What you don't know doesn't make you gay. But also it's highly unlikely she's getting creampied by multiple dudes. Even if she was that stuff clears out in a few hours
/r/seduction22/11/25 05:34 PM
2

Again how does that affect those guys? Do you think she'll be more attracted to them for being stingy cheap asses?
/r/seduction22/11/25 05:26 PM
3

Fair enough I misread you. That can be your standard if it's not mine
/r/seduction22/11/25 03:03 PM
6

I personally have had poor results doing this but do whatever works for you
/r/seduction22/11/25 07:39 AM
0

But a woman should accept a man who's dating around sleeping with multiple women?Why the double standard?
/r/seduction22/11/25 07:37 AM
2

How exactly are you subsidizing the dating lives of other guys by seeing a woman? It has literally no effect on those other guys at all.
/r/seduction22/11/25 04:22 AM
19

Don't understand why dudes are so worried about women dating and fucking other men. It's literally the most normal thing ever these days, and low key what a lot of guys on this forum are trying to build for themselves....a "roster" of women. Do you like her? Keep seeing her. Do you not? Don't.
/r/seduction22/11/25 03:54 AM
1

I rather like planning sex. Can text flirt with my partner in the days / hours leading up to the date and by the time we get together the sexual tension is palpable. We can't wait to get each other naked
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:19 PM
2

Yeah I was just looking for that myself. Someone posted in here a while back. You could like practice responding in real time and it would grade responses and give you feedback. Honestly wasn't bad
/r/seduction16/11/25 09:10 PM
0

I hear you but I also don't think AI is a bad tool for brainstorming these kinds of things. I usually have an idea of what I want to say and once I bounce it off of Chat gpt I refine the response to suit my personality. I agree you should never plug and Play an output straight from AI, but it really can help your thought process in composing a response
/r/seduction16/11/25 09:07 PM
1

Another big problem is shitty attitudes. Don't be afraid to disagree with a woman but if all you're doing is talking shit about the things she likes don't expect her to be begging you to rip her panties off
/r/seduction14/11/25 01:32 AM
3

"I thought that book was crap" is a little too negative IMO, but you are right that being polarizing is generally a good thing
/r/seduction12/11/25 03:00 PM
1

I want to say it's about half. But I typically end up with both number and IG before long and use both to get in touch.
/r/seduction10/11/25 04:35 AM
1

Both. Maybe I have a cool IG idk. There's more for both me and her to engage with on social whereas texts just arrive out of the blue and have to have all their own context. on IG a girl can respond to my story and say "wow <activity> is so cool!" and I'm like "I go weekly, join me at the next one"
/r/seduction10/11/25 03:31 AM
3

My stats are pretty much inverted from yours. Maybe 25% of my lays have come from online dating. Personally I find it a waste of time.
/r/seduction09/11/25 10:24 PM
2

"I’m not going to vye for a woman’s attention against another man" Hate to break it to you but that's just reality my man. You're always competing for her attention against other men
/r/seduction09/11/25 05:09 PM
1

I don't want to deflate your enthusiasm but you really didn't accomplish much here. You walked up so uncalibrated that they stared at each other for a while until you damn near self ejected by saying "actually you don't have to, don't want to disturb you". Then it sounds like you actually got the other girls Instagram instead? And apologized for the disturbance? This girl won't talk to you. You gave her basically no reason to. If you are cold approaching you are disturbing people, don't pretend …
/r/seduction09/11/25 02:18 AM
1

Honestly I find it to be the opposite. I get way better response rates on social media than I do with phone numbers
/r/seduction09/11/25 02:13 AM
1

I don't understand this advice. Like phone numbers are great but social media gives both of your way more opportunity to see and interact with each others lives. Like I don't even have to message a girl and she can see me doing my thing and hit me up after watching a story or post.
/r/seduction09/11/25 02:12 AM
1

I've tried it a handful of times. At best I'll have a short conversation with a stranger that Peter's out. More often than not my message gets ignored
/r/seduction08/11/25 06:57 PM
1

The way I see it as long as you're clear with your intentions that you're not dating her it's on her if she wants to have sex under those conditions
/r/seduction08/11/25 05:27 PM
1

Outer game comes from inner game and confidence comes from experience. We give names to certain social techniques that confident and socially adept people use, but these aren't just a list of things to do and if you check them all off then the girl will like you. They are tools in your social toolbox, and if you don't know how and when to use them they aren't going to be effective. Even if you do everything perfectly there's plenty of reasons why a girl still won't be interested. Maybe she doesn…
/r/seduction07/11/25 01:33 AM
7

I don't know I kind of like the touch my butt line
/r/seduction04/11/25 05:48 AM
6

18 YO girls can have unrealistic expectations of dudes able to read their mind about when to make a move. Some girls will kiss on a first date if they are feeling it, some won't. If you feel like she was getting distant it's unlikely attempting to kiss her would have changed anything. Better to state your intentions rather than ask a permission. Ie "I really want to kiss you right now". She will let you know.
/r/seduction04/11/25 01:07 AM
1

I mean in this specific situation there's lots of innuendo jokes to be made. "Wait till you see my secret pickle" or "do you like big or small pickles" or "don't eat me please" Having lines is kind of a crutch until you can think on your feet. I'd recommend taking an improv class to learn how to free associate
/r/seduction01/11/25 09:57 PM
1

Personally I find this makes my dick and balls itchy as all fuck. I trim it down to like 1 inch minimum
/r/seduction25/10/25 06:05 AM
1

Personally I love pubes both on myself and ladies. I find it makes sex much more comfortable by preventing skin on skin rubbing.
/r/seduction25/10/25 06:03 AM
8

Circumcised is not better
/r/seduction25/10/25 06:01 AM
1

Seems like you just have contempt for building an relationship with a woman. Not all relationships are monogamous, and even the ones that are can have a plenty adequate sex life. Given the choice I'd take a monogamous relationship with a woman I'm very attracted to over constantly grinding for new pussy every week
/r/seduction22/10/25 12:23 AM
8

Yeah I mean I wasn't really conciously deciding to wait that whole time, I was just really attracted to her and way overinvested in a way that made me not interested in seriously pursuing other women because I felt like her breakup was constantly imminent. It wasn't healthy.
/r/seduction21/10/25 05:37 AM
39

One of the hottest girls I ever slept with went this way. Can't recommend it though. I spent probably 18 months waiting for her to break up with her addict boyfriend without seriously pursuing anyone else. She moved on from me within a couple months to some new guy. This experience was the start of getting serious about game though. I never wanted to do that shit again.
/r/seduction21/10/25 03:18 AM
36

I like how you said 100% inner work and then described getting fit.
/r/seduction21/10/25 01:24 AM
5

I guess? Even at like 5 mins per approach this is like. Almost 17 hours of approach in a week. And that's assuming you are somewhere you can talk to a new person every 5 mins for hours at a time.
/r/seduction21/10/25 12:27 AM
1

If "working" just means someone visualized a thing that someone else told them to visualize then no, I don't think it worked. That's just how human brains work. We can visualize things that don't exist. I don't see this as any different from like. Religious people having demons or speaking in tongues. They believe it, and act like it's real, but it's not real. Knowingly or not they are playing along with a fantasy
/r/seduction20/10/25 09:35 PM
28

Logistically how does one even do 200 approaches a week and still keep up with responsibilities? Feel like I wouldn't even have time to meet / follow up with anyone at that rate
/r/seduction20/10/25 09:24 PM
12

I find I connect with much hotter women via social circle game than I do with any other methods.
/r/seduction20/10/25 09:10 PM
1

Are they cut or intact? Sometimes cut guys can take a while
/r/seduction20/10/25 08:41 PM
1

"You will never be able to hypnotize someone that isn't open to it" I don't understand how anyone can say this out loud and not recognize that it's complete horseshit. Like it only works if you play along? Then it doesn't work.
/r/seduction19/10/25 10:13 PM
8

Personally I have a hard time believing that shit is real. Don't waste your time learning hypnosis, just socialize like a human being
/r/seduction19/10/25 08:39 PM
3

I mean I wouldn't say any of those "gems" are particularly useful or actionable advice. At best a book can help you form a mindset you can use to evaluate your interactions with women. At worst people read books as a means of avoiding actually going out and socializing and getting experience. I learned considerably more just putting myself out there than I ever did reading books about how to interact with women.
/r/seduction19/10/25 07:29 PM
5

Nah man. The sub is not and never should be about how to be an emotionally abusive Predator to women
/r/seduction19/10/25 06:28 PM
7

Honestly I found books to be mostly not that useful. Like there were some nuggets in most, but it's also kinda hard to vet good advice from bad advice when you are just starting, and there is A LOT of bad advice dating books.
/r/seduction19/10/25 06:23 PM
6

"Example: If she tells you she’s independent, laugh and say, “That’s cute, but independence is just a placeholder until you meet a real man.” Watch her face shift as she realizes you’re rewriting her script." Yeah. Or watch her face as she rightfully throws her drink at you for being a creepy asshole. This is the kind of dangerous shit that we actually need AI safeguards against
/r/seduction19/10/25 06:02 PM
2

Depends who he's talking about approaching. There's a pretty large expat community there. Many of them sol traveling or working and specifically there for partying
/r/seduction19/10/25 05:33 PM
3

It's a backhanded way of saying she didn't think you were a weirdo. Like literally a compliment. Good response might be something like "I hide it well" or maybe ask her to share a story about a weird dude approaching her
/r/seduction18/10/25 12:19 AM
3

"oh damn" is a pretty weird way to respond to a joke about you not being a weirdo
/r/seduction18/10/25 12:13 AM
1

I mean if those are the options then yeah delete the number but you should really work on genuinely not getting this emotionally invested in a girl you haven't even gone out on a date with yet.
/r/seduction16/10/25 03:09 AM
2

I think it's a little excessive to delete the number over this but overall yeah you shouldn't get worked up about a cancellation. Personally I would attempt to reschedule after a single cancellation, maybe 2 if she had good reasons. I still never delete numbers because what would the point of that be.
/r/seduction15/10/25 11:48 PM
3

If you want to guarantee logistics are not an issue then you should go for the hotel room. I always feel more confident on a date when I know we are close to my place and I have it freshly cleaned for a guest.
/r/seduction13/10/25 09:26 PM
2

I mean yeah. But telling a shit bag to "be himself" is bad dating advice. He needs to be someone else
/r/seduction13/10/25 06:48 PM
11

Well yeah that's kinda what I'm getting at. You didn't actually invest socially in the group, you just hyper fixated on your targets and they picked up on that. If you are forming genuine connections with people they won't think you're just a dude on the hunt for his next lay
/r/seduction13/10/25 06:47 PM
7

This is probably less of a problem than you think it is. As long as you didn't literally spam ask out every girl in the group and only spoke with those you were genuinely interested in
/r/seduction13/10/25 06:03 PM
3

I think I disagree. Some people have asshole personalities or Incel vibes and these kind of folks absolutely should not "be themselves". They need to reflect and learn and grow into someone who doesn't suck the life out of a room.
/r/seduction13/10/25 04:21 PM
26

You can't really count on finding a one night stand. Many of them are a combination of being in the right place at the right time with a little bit of flirting skills. Bars and clubs are probably your best bet.
/r/seduction12/10/25 11:48 PM
2

I doubt it. It's cringeys 90s era pickup artist stuff.
/r/seduction12/10/25 07:16 PM
14

Do you think a guy who refers to women as "HB8" is worth investment?
/r/seduction12/10/25 07:05 PM
1

Do people actually fuck in bathrooms? Seems like it would be a terrible place and a high likelihood security finds you and kicks you out.
/r/seduction12/10/25 05:05 PM
3

0/10 You need to give them a reason to want to message you. Apologizing while handing out your contact info to people who didn't ask for it isn't it.
/r/seduction10/10/25 01:41 AM
1

I wouldn't do this. I dont think I've ever had an unexpected phone call to a new lady contact go well. usually they don't even pick up.
/r/seduction07/10/25 09:20 PM
1

Op isn't Brad Pitt. But if he was and if he was interested in this woman, I don't think he'd be so full of ego as to refuse to send a follow up message because that's what the boys on seddit insist on doing There are plenty of legitimate reasons why people forget to text back even when they're interested. There is really very little harm in sending a single follow up message occasionally.
/r/seduction07/10/25 02:06 PM
1

Op took two days to respond to receiving her number. Or is ok for him but not for her?
/r/seduction07/10/25 04:05 AM
10

You really should text more or less immediately after getting her phone number. It's weird to wait arbitrarily for 2 days before reaching out, and she will lose interest Personally I would just go for a follow up text here. I think the "never double text" advice is not as hard of a line as most guys here seem to think it is.
/r/seduction07/10/25 04:02 AM
9

I think it's probably a good thing to not get too excited about getting a number. When I first started game I would get really excited when a girl would give me her number and proceed to way over invest. These days I understand that getting a number is pretty routine and should not be considered more than a sign of marginal interest at best.
/r/seduction07/10/25 02:29 AM
4

Then why are you even bothering?
/r/seduction03/10/25 11:20 PM
2

I mean it's not that deep to set up a date 5 days in advance. I think it's more likely she'll think you're disinterested if you wait that long to reach out. You don't have to text her constantly between now and then but I think it's good to make contact shortly after getting their info. My advice: Hit her up and propose a date. 2 to 3 messages is all you need. Reach out again the evening before or morning of the date to confirm Go on date.
/r/seduction02/10/25 02:41 PM
7

I agree.
/r/seduction02/10/25 02:36 PM
96

Honestly I think it's harder to find a sex friend than a girlfriend. Finding and attending erotic events is probably your best bet.
/r/seduction02/10/25 02:10 PM
1

If I appear disengaged I never receive another message
/r/seduction02/10/25 01:40 PM
1

Weird is kind of a meaningless word here. Maybe some think it's weird, maybe some doing. Personally I think this would be a really ineffective way to meet people. You might get contact info but you haven't established any reason for them to communicate with you.
/r/seduction29/09/25 04:47 PM
2

I usually don't fuck them but not never. And like. Literally it's the best possible social proof for other women they introduce.e to
/r/seduction27/09/25 01:31 AM
6

Why would it raise alarms to have more women than male friends? It's great, they introduce me to their friends and vouch for me. I regularly am around when they're like, Getting half naked to change and go out clubbing. It rules.
/r/seduction26/09/25 04:51 PM
21

Most of my social group is women. It kind of rules
/r/seduction26/09/25 02:47 PM
1

It's not so much that I can't fathom it as I recognize the gym as a generally not very social environment. Sure you can and should say hello and have brief conversations with people but like it's not a place you want to aggressively approach and game at. There are many other environments that are better suited for socializing and approaching women
/r/seduction24/09/25 05:13 PM
41

Genuinely, don't. Gyms are really poor places to meet women. As you said they're focused on their workout and kind of guarded. If she makes eye contact and smiles you can say hello but keep it super brief.
/r/seduction24/09/25 02:32 AM
5

Despite years of improving my text game and profile / photos, I never got to the point where online dating felt like it was worth the time. It was a brutal soul-sucking grind that occasionally produced a low quality woman that I would go on a few dates with and hook up with. For me social circle game is where most of my lays come from. Women I meet this way also tend to be higher quality overall.
/r/seduction23/09/25 02:30 PM
8

Definitely better to do your approaches in quieter areas like smoking area outside or something
/r/seduction23/09/25 02:25 PM
3

Not sure I agree. You got to strike while the iron is hot. If you just met a girl but can't see her for some number of weeks, her interest level is going to decrease until you either meet up or she gives up on meeting you
/r/seduction22/09/25 03:48 PM
2

Main point I'm making is there is a lot more experience baked into "base level social skills" than I think you realize. Game becomes "easy" when those skills are internalized, but for folks like me where my education years didn't really develop my social skills adequately, it takes years of serious work to immerse yourself in social situations and debrief afterwards what worked and what didn't. Books/videos/coaches can provide ideas and mindsets and tools to self evaluate, but at the end of the …
/r/seduction21/09/25 06:25 PM
10

"assuming you didn't start off being completely unsocialised" Some of us did though. Same sex private Catholic school education not only failed to teach me how to interact with women in a normal healthy way, it actively instilled values and behaviors That are counterproductive to relating with women. It took years of deliberate hard work to undo the damage, and I creeped out no small amount of women in the learning process. If game comes naturally to you be thankful
/r/seduction21/09/25 04:26 PM
1

I don't understand the appeal of Dan bilzerian. That guy sucks, you should not try to be him
/r/seduction19/09/25 02:29 PM
1

Sure they don't. But that was never the point of social media was it? I can take and post a video of me fire dancing at the weekly jam and girls will watch it and hit me up about it. If I sent that same video to a dozen girls they would think it's cringy and try hard and probably ignore me. Same video, same lifestyle, but social media is a great way to showcase your personality and lifestyle without looking needy AF by texting the same content directly to women you like. Also the delivery confir…
/r/seduction19/09/25 04:17 AM
1

Yeah Idk. Personally I find it easier to keep in touch with women on socials, though I usually get the number also. I have trust issues with SMS messages. Sometimes they just don't deliver and it has caused huge fights with partners in the past. It is still a problem with some phones that don't have modern RCS protocols. Social media provides a soft way to keep in touch by watching each other stories / posts and delivery guarantees for messages
/r/seduction19/09/25 12:30 AM
2

Jesus bro don't shoot yourself in the foot here you're just looking for reasons to eject when you should be looking for green flags to proceed.
/r/seduction19/09/25 12:27 AM
2

He didn't say they had just met necessarily
/r/seduction13/09/25 11:29 PM
3

You're overthinking how she introduces you to her parents. Of course she's not going to introduce you as a love interest, but her parents also aren't stupid and know what's going on despite what she says. Just vibe in the room with her like you have been. You don't need to and probably shouldn't jump straight to physical intimacy. Allow time for both of you to get comfortable in the space. Then escalate physically but take it slow. I'm not a fan of "asking" consent to touch, but you can tell her…
/r/seduction04/09/25 04:10 AM
4

This is a fairly high risk move. Women who don't know you aren't typically going to come straight to your place to hang. I will sometines invite women to meet me at my house before we go somewhere if that is logistically sensible. They will usually be fine coming in for a few minutes to scope it out before leaving. You can make a good first impression if your place is clean and has nice homey decorations and lighting and it can plant a seed for what to expect later when you invite them back.
/r/seduction03/09/25 06:44 PM
1

Seek out? Maybe not. But they definitely aren't opposed to it. I dated and hooked up with plenty of women in their mid 20s in my early 30s
/r/seduction19/08/25 03:24 AM
15

I had the opposite happen actually. One of my lady friends posted me in a "vetted single male group" It directly or indirectly led me to have sex with two different women, and dates with a handful more
/r/seduction09/08/25 09:22 AM
46

Exactly this can only work with someone who you already developed a sexual relationship with.
/r/seduction09/08/25 04:54 AM
18

I mean sure. It's just one woman. But you even admitted she was appalled so I don't understand why you think it would be any different with another woman. You need to build a specific kind of rapport to develop a sexual relationship with a woman, you can't just skip that step and ask for it and expect any results.
/r/seduction09/08/25 02:38 AM
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I think you answered your own question with your example. Just because you've known a woman for a while doesn't mean you can be this uncalibrated. Asking to have sex out of the blue without building any sexual tension first is guaranteed to fail, and likely insult someone you are friends with
/r/seduction09/08/25 02:20 AM
2

I agree. That's why I recommended he doesn't do that
/r/seduction07/08/25 01:29 AM
2

I guess we differ on opinion of self sabotage. I think lying about it would be self-sabotaging in the long run. Also self-sabotage to "confess virginity" unprompted.
/r/seduction07/08/25 01:17 AM
-3

If she knew I had lied about it she probably would have stopped banging me. I think he should try and keep it on the DL for sure, but lying about it is even more pathetic
/r/seduction06/08/25 10:20 PM
1

To what end? I was a late bloomer myself. The girl I lost my virginity to didn't know that until after we had sex
/r/seduction06/08/25 10:12 PM
-4

If asked you shouldn't lie about your sexual history, but there's absolutely no need to "confess it" to her. Even calling it a confession implies there's something bad about it. It's not Inherently bad, but your attitude about it can be if you are bitter about it.
/r/seduction06/08/25 09:34 PM
1

As a formerly skinny guy, and now slightly less skinny guy, I did better by gaining weight
/r/seduction06/08/25 09:25 PM
1

I assure you it's perfectly normal and appreciated for guys to get style compliments from women
/r/seduction03/08/25 03:09 PM
1

Personally I don't think gyms are a great place to approach people As far as "easy" ways to start you can try giving style compliments to people. You don't even have to stop walking, just say it in passing while making eye contact. Make sure you are in front of them and making eye contact. you can give a little wave with your hand to get their attention if they aren't looking at you.
/r/seduction03/08/25 03:06 PM
4

It's not about the flirting. Going to work when youre sick sucks and your chimed back with "so hot 🤤" I think a little empathy here would have been a better response. You also should have just immediately asked when she was free for the movie after she both asked you if you had seen it and reacted positively to the idea of going.
/r/seduction02/08/25 11:26 PM
2

was it...was it a jerking off motion? Cause it sounds like a jerking off motion...
/r/seduction01/08/25 06:04 AM
1

I am 5'6" and I looked Skinny as fuck at 130 even though I was lifting quite heavy at the time
/r/seduction31/07/25 05:59 AM
5

I've got one or two that I'm not proud of, but 95% of them I would sleep with again in the right circumstances.
/r/seduction30/07/25 04:39 AM
25

1800 hundred matches is honestly insane. I used various OLD on and off for years and only had like 600 matches. I found the juice to not be worth the squeeze for the most part. I still dabble on apps but it's a soul crushing grind that rarely yields results To answer your question on stats though my match to sex ratio is like 300 to 1
/r/seduction30/07/25 04:34 AM
3

Agreed. He's borderline trying to gaslight this poor girl by just changing his story without acknowledging his previous lie at all.
/r/seduction29/07/25 10:39 PM
7

Ehhh not sure I agree on this one. If she calls him out absolutely he needs to acknowledge it was cringe and that lessons were learned. But with things that were just embarrassing like this I think it's better to just quietly learn your lesson and pretend it never happened. It's possible she's not onto him and he's overthinking.
/r/seduction29/07/25 07:31 PM
30

You might recover. You might not. But literally the only advice I gave was don't talk about it so no I don't think you should bring it up.
/r/seduction29/07/25 07:00 PM
94

You were lame and gamey and she caught on. You're probably toast. Personally I'd just never mention it again and also never do stupid shit like that again.
/r/seduction29/07/25 06:19 PM
6

Maybe about a year and I wasnt super hardcore about it. Just drank half a mass gainer shake each day while lifting like 2 to 3 times a week with a fully body workout. Went from like 125 to almost 160
/r/seduction29/07/25 02:53 AM
2

Yes that always matters of course. All I'm saying was being larger was easier than being smaller
/r/seduction29/07/25 02:52 AM
5

Sure. Point is if you are already under like 140 you should focus on gaining weight not getting lean
/r/seduction29/07/25 02:51 AM
3

Fat is better thank skinny is what I'm saying. Don't focus on losing weight if you are under like 150 pounds
/r/seduction29/07/25 02:47 AM
5

Yes. Best to worst is 1. Built 2. Fat 3. skinny
/r/seduction29/07/25 02:38 AM
97

Don't agree with #1. I was always skinny. I did better once I actually gained some weight and muscle mass. When I was lean I just looked small and often weighed less than some women I was dating
/r/seduction28/07/25 10:48 PM
8

It's going to be too large a gap for most women. You'll probably find more receptive women in their mid to late 30s range, but if you're vibing with a woman in her twenties don't let the age Gap stop you.
/r/seduction25/07/25 05:50 PM
1

If you are using protection properly (and you should be) your chances of pregnancy or serious STD from a one off hookup are pretty dang low. I have had sex with some women that I was not particularly into. Worth it? probably not but it's not that serious. Chalk it up to a lapse in judgement. Never forget that hot girls need loving too.
/r/seduction24/07/25 04:15 PM
1

Personally I found dating apps to be damn near not even worth the time it takes to swipe. I have shown my profile to lady friends for feedback and for the most part they think it's a good profile that shows off all my best qualities. But the quantity and quality of women I meet through online dating are just terrible compared to my social circle gaming efforts. And OLD is such a boring terrible grind to swipe and text that I don't particularly enjoy where social circle gaming is just....having f…
/r/seduction24/07/25 04:35 AM
23

TLDR how many women did you hook up with?
/r/seduction22/07/25 08:37 PM
1

I mean it sounds like you have plenty of experience doing this already. It's going to be harder without your wife helping though
/r/seduction21/07/25 12:46 AM
82

Welp. That's what happens sometimes when you go home with drunk girls.
/r/seduction20/07/25 04:16 PM
0

You know how not everyone in the world wants the same thing as you?
/r/seduction18/07/25 01:44 PM
2

Something cold? He sent a ❤️ emoji
/r/seduction18/07/25 01:43 PM
2

Every approach is a successful approach regardless of the outcome. Gyms are honestly kind of a poor place to approach. Most people are focused on getting their workouts done. You should limit conversations to a minute or two Max.
/r/seduction11/07/25 02:27 AM
1

I don't think it matters too much by your mid thirties. Definitely an issue in your 20s though.
/r/seduction11/07/25 12:53 AM
0

I mean it does matter though. I've had women tell me to my face that they don't want to date me because I'm bald or short. Who knows how many quietly thought this when they ghosted or flaked on plans. I even had one woman leave a date early because she didn't realize she was as tall as me. I would be very curious to see their methods for the study. Wouldn't surprise me if they were just making it up for marketing purposes
/r/seduction11/07/25 12:51 AM
2

He's right that it matters, but there's really no point in dwelling on it as there are no practical actionable steps to change those attributes
/r/seduction11/07/25 12:47 AM
1

I'm downvoting even though I know those things matter. I'm bald and 5'6" in my 30s and am very familiar with the feeling of "I'm a genuinely cool and confident guy doing everything right and its still not enough" I am downvoting because neither of those qualities have actionable steps to improve your situation.
/r/seduction11/07/25 12:45 AM
7

2 to 4 different girls a week? Sleeping with a third of them means one new partner a week? That seems insanely high to me. I was nodding along until I got to that number. it's more or less how my 20s to 30s dating life changed except I sleep with a about 3 new women every year and struggle to find someone who is actually a good long term fit Like who even has four nights a week free in their thirties?
/r/seduction11/07/25 12:36 AM
1

Has that ever worked for anyone ever? That sounds cringy and desperate as fuck
/r/seduction10/07/25 01:17 AM
30

When I do ask this I phrase it more like "are you seeing anyone?". IDK if it's better. You can also just assume she's single until she says otherwise. Usually if you start getting flirty or pitching date ideas they will tell you if they have a boyfriend. I think this is generally a better approach than asking directly
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:57 PM
4

I've read Carnegie and most of Models. Didn't find either particularly groundbreaking, and years later can't recall a single tip or principle that either of them made that stuck with me. I learned more by social immersion. Read them if you are so inclined, but I think their benefits are often overstated.
/r/seduction09/07/25 04:23 PM
3

You're pushing for too much too fast. She already indicated several times you are pushing her comfort limits. I was in a similar situation where neither of us had logistics, but fireworks were popping off at the dance club and we left to find a hotel room. It was too late so we just went back to the hostel dorm with semi private beds and fucked there quietly. Logistics definitely help but if she wants to jump your bones you will find a way.
/r/seduction09/07/25 05:43 AM
1

Some girls are like this. There's a very small chance you end up sleeping with her if she splits with her BF, but I wouldn't bank on it or you might end up like I did waiting 2+ years for her to finally split with biggest asshole boyfriend I've ever met, fuck her like 3 times and then she goes exclusive with someone else
/r/seduction09/07/25 04:21 AM
1

I wouldn't say “I had to come say hi if be kicking myself all day if I didn’t say hello” It's cringy and puts frames her as like a target or prize or something and frames you as a guy who would spend the rest of his day being upset about being too big of a pussy to talk to a woman. Switch to something more like "was really good chatting". Try to establish something you might do together as a pretext for exchanging info. Like "I can send you some info about <whatever> if you want to check it out …
/r/seduction08/07/25 10:28 PM
1

It's just a song my dude. Do you want money? Or women? You can have both but you have to make time for both.
/r/seduction06/07/25 09:52 PM
1

I mean define productive. I think improving your social skills with the intention to improve your dating life is a very productive use of time. You aren't going to get better if you don't actively work on these skills
/r/seduction06/07/25 09:36 PM
1

Both of those lines are terrible and you should never use them as openers.
/r/seduction06/07/25 09:34 PM
1

Agreed, you can't cold open too flirty. It's a line I struggle to find too honestly. Usually I try to start indirect with a sexual joke or something that's not about her. I gauge the reaction to determine if I can get more flirty or if I should simmer down.
/r/seduction06/07/25 09:34 PM
1

I know how you feel. The only way to get better at conversations is to insert yourself into as many social situations as possible and pay attention to the things that do and don't work. ie "when I talked about my shitty hometown she stopped talking to me" vs "I told her she had a cool shirt and she got excited and told me about the festival where she found it"
/r/seduction06/07/25 09:17 PM
1

Context is everything. a "line" that works for someone else may not work for you. And they will never work if you are just forcing them into a conversation. Consider lines as inspiration rather than specific things to say. They communicate the type of attitude you should have when you are speaking with women if you want a flirty vibe.
/r/seduction06/07/25 09:12 PM
0

Yeah talking to women more will help for sure. Classes really aren't that major of a commitment. usually they're once a week for a couple of months. You can keep going to more advanced levels or stop if you're not feeling it. Pay attention that you aren't self sabotaging here. saying "i don't really want to spend time on this" is an excuse to not get better. Don't make excuses to inhibit your self growth
/r/seduction06/07/25 09:10 PM
1

Have you taken an improv class? yeah sure it's not focused on specifically talking to women, but I found it extremely beneficial to my conversational skills and reducing social anxiety. This guys struggling with basic conversation, he's got to get that down first.
/r/seduction06/07/25 09:08 PM
6

For starters, in your example you are being really negative. Asking about why she looks mad, not listening to her answer, and then trying to one up her negative answer about where she lives by talking about how shitty your hometown is. Consider taking an improv class. They feel kind of awkward at first but they are really fun and do a great job at training you to freely associate new ideas into a conversation. And just general be more positive. Hype a girl up, don't drill down on why she's has a…
/r/seduction06/07/25 08:24 PM
1

Persistence can pay off. You should not focus solely on women who seem uninterested, but hit them occasionally and you might be surprised who eventually comes around.
/r/seduction06/07/25 06:27 PM
1

You should only say "ahhh no you're stupid to listen to" If you want to absolutely guarentee a girl never talks to you again.
/r/seduction27/06/25 02:04 AM
1

>Ended up calling her to see if she remembered me. Never. Ever. call someone if this is your objective. All this does is validate you. It does nothing for her. You shouldn't call a girl just to talk without texting first, and the call should have an objective like "Lets switch to a call to work out the details of meeting up?" or "I have this crazy story, got 5 minutes for a call?" >I fucked up because i showed emotion You fucked up because you had emotions. You got way too invested in a girl who…
/r/seduction26/06/25 05:13 PM
1

You can't just share here what happened?
/r/seduction26/06/25 04:33 PM
1

Not like. Night and day. But it didn't hurt.
/r/seduction26/06/25 04:27 PM
30

Why is it surprising to you that a woman who is dating people finds a boyfriend? IME some women tell me they are seeing someone, some dont. I never ask though. If they are evading your invites to meet up again that tells you all you need to know.
/r/seduction26/06/25 04:02 PM
2

Should a golfer be mad at their abysmal hole in one rate?
/r/seduction26/06/25 03:42 PM
1

Why though? Why were you so emotional at a woman you had just met and talked to for a short while? What did you say to her exactly?
/r/seduction26/06/25 01:21 PM
2

Right. Least I can keep my dick in my pants while talking to women
/r/seduction26/06/25 01:13 PM
1

I was traveling and approached a group of people at a party. I had met a few of the girls previously. One of the dudes In the group kept like. Physically boxing me out from talking to the girls. When I asserted my space he pushed me. It was really fucking weird.
/r/seduction26/06/25 01:11 PM
2

And you called me a female?
/r/seduction26/06/25 12:55 PM
5

"So what he has to approach 50 women to get laid once? " What exactly do you think you're implying here? Because what I heard was "wah wah wah I have to go approach 50 whole women? Isn't there an easier way?" You know that those "Masters seducers" you are talking about had lower success rates at first right? I'm not convinced they're actually hitting 30% of the time, that's like unrealistically high
/r/seduction26/06/25 12:49 PM
1

You can recover if she just wasn't interested at first. If you act like an emotional Man baby? You're cooked
/r/seduction26/06/25 12:44 PM
8

You need to change your definition of success. Like what do you expect? That the first hot girl you see and want to fuck will swoon into your arms? Get real. You're not entitled to women's attention. You Have to go out and do the work to be a cool social guy and then talk to a bunch of women until you find someone Compatible with you
/r/seduction26/06/25 12:41 PM
5

"Which is insane because they are supposed to be master seducers" you think a one and five success rate at having sex from a cold approach is bad?! Are you insane? It's lucky if even one girl is single when you approach five
/r/seduction26/06/25 12:34 PM
1

Safe is a relative term based on your risk tolerance. Things that are working in your favor are recent STD tests, recent monogamy, IUD verification. Things that aren't working in your favor raw dogging and trusting your pull out ability. I'd say There is a low chance of pregnancy and STI but it's never zero. The IUD is her insurance policy. What's yours? I highly recommend my one custom fit condoms. They were a night and day game changer for protected sex quality for me
/r/seduction25/06/25 04:53 AM
2

It's going to be harder with your late start for sure. But better late than never as they say. I wasn't in a much better place than you, I had only slept with a few women by my mid 20's, and two of them were girlfriends. I'm in my late 30s now and, while I am still searching for the right partner I have had some wild sexual adventures along the way and have slept with nearly 30 women. Be persistent. You might be surprised what you can achieve in 10 years time. The point of joining the clubs isn'…
/r/seduction24/06/25 04:52 PM
1

Honestly clubs are one of the hardest avenues to meet women. Worth doing, but you may have better luck with social clubs / classes. personally I play recreational sports and am part of a dance performance group. Both of those have massively expanded my social circle to the point where I can go out to clubs alone and have a high chance of bumping into a group of girls I know out for the evening. Other women notice this and it makes cold openings much easier
/r/seduction24/06/25 03:44 PM
1

Nah man it's not that special. Stars don't need to be aligned. You just gotta get social and meet women constantly. You'll find more than you click with
/r/seduction24/06/25 02:27 PM
2

If she's grinding into you that's a body language yes. Your situation is exactly why logistics are so important. There's a pretty good chance you could have hooked up if there was a private space to do so. You can ask something to the effect of "whats your camp setup like" and if she's sharing a tent try to steer her back to your camp instead. Also lesson learned is to get contact info sooner rather than later. Especially at a festival plans can go to shit in an instant, don't part ways without …
/r/seduction24/06/25 06:49 AM
55

"Only cute gals named <her name>" Honest answer In a matter of fact tone Also honest but its a good opportity to mention a few things about her specifically that interested you. Maybe include a physical thing but don't lead with it. "Smart fit girls who like hiking. What's the coolest view you've ever hiked to?"
/r/seduction22/06/25 07:17 PM
1

I don't know where you are seeing "Ignore" or "dont compliment". There are some situations where that is the correct advice but it's not a blanket statement. Many guys come in here because they come on way too strong to women and are giving them way too much attention. From experience, this does not build attraction. For these guys you need to tell them to ease off the gas pedal a little bit. In fact compliment opener is quite common, the trick is to make it not about her body, and only give one…
/r/seduction21/06/25 09:09 PM
1

Cold approach doesn't necessarily mean you are just looking to hookup. It's just a way to meet a new person, not inherently any different than meeting a person through social circles or dating apps. I find a cold approach tends to be a little difficult to form a strong connection as you have no social ties but it can happen. I used to live in a small suburb like you and honestly moving to a more populated area was an improvement to my dating life.
/r/seduction21/06/25 06:08 PM
3

You are not fit and you smoke meth. What is a shattered foot?
/r/seduction21/06/25 04:49 PM
1

Generally better to go for a kiss mid date, but I've done it at the end too. You should never just go for the cheek kiss, or ask a question though. Make a statement while holding eye contact "I want to kiss you". Personally I can't think of a time this hasn't worked. Heck in the right circumstances that can just be the opener but you need to be at a wild party or out on new Year's Eve or something.
/r/seduction14/06/25 08:54 AM
2

I don't know that sex is always a "negative" topic. You need to be careful around sex topics if you've just met but I find they're not totally off limits and some people are keen to discuss it. Helps to start fairly neutral, like talking about celebrity couples or making a double entendre joke to test the waters and dropping the topic if they don't respond to it.
/r/seduction02/06/25 07:02 PM
10

Honestly, take an improv class. It really helps you learn to freely associate new topics into a conversation. But some good starting points are making comments about: Something she is wearing. Something someone else nearby is wearing. Her dance moves. Someone elses dance moves. Nearby art. Make a benign assumption about her (you look like you could be a professional dancer). Jokes. If you're really out of creative juice you can just say "hey there, hows your night?" Consider peacocking. I often …
/r/seduction02/06/25 06:56 PM
2

There is no "perfect method" or "simple process". A "high likelihood" of success might be like a 5% chance of getting laid on a given night. All you can do is improve your social skills and increase the volume of new people you meet. The second part is relatively easy. Go out often and strike up conversations with strangers. Joint new social groups / clubs / classes. There is no easy way to improve social skills. You just need to socialize with lots of people and debrief yourself after on what w…
/r/seduction02/06/25 06:46 PM
4

Reply to a story no more than every 1-2 weeks, and don't force that if you don't see anything you genuinely want to respond to. Text her to meet up when you are back in London. Don't count on anything panning out, continue to develop new leads.
/r/seduction02/06/25 06:30 PM
-1

I'd call it a good sign but I do think it's a little strange to go for the phone number instead. Personally I would have gone for both. IG (or other socials) are great because you can post stories that give them a glimpse into what you're up to and also give you an opportunity to hit her up about something you see on her profile that intrigues you.
/r/seduction01/06/25 10:11 PM
0

Reckon some folks don't even know they have it.
/r/seduction29/04/25 10:27 PM
8

Sure, but it's not like a death sentence. Most folks are asymptomatic most of the time. I understand the aversion but there's like 10x more stigma on herpes than there should be Maybe not worth the risk on someone you aren't that interested in, but if the girl is genuinely a good fit otherwise? There are far worse things I've seen people put up with.
/r/seduction29/04/25 10:23 PM
20

Low but not zero
/r/seduction29/04/25 09:27 PM
6

Yes smartass. You can improve your game without your entire life revolving around the singular goal of fucking women.
/r/seduction27/04/25 03:31 PM
5

I quit my job to take a travel sabbatical a few years ago. Hooking up with girls wasn't the main purpose, but it happened on a few occasions. Personally I don't think you should ever do anything with the explicit intent of trying to hook up with women. You should do things that are fun to you and meeting women as the side effect.
/r/seduction27/04/25 02:58 PM
2

It could be either cute or creepy. The "work" is building up a little bit of flirty tension first. Palmistry is bullshit. So if you frame it as like some serious thing you were interested in and give her a boring vague "reading" it's gonna flop. If you frame it very nonchalantly as a silly party trick and make her laugh about a romance fortune that clearly involves you then it will be cute. But you're building it up into this whole thing with a bookstore trip and a backstory about your interest …
/r/seduction18/04/25 04:35 AM
5

Sounds like a date my dude. Go for it but be careful you don't make this look super staged. It will be weird if it looks like you invited her to a book store just to look at a book about palmistry and drop a palm reading line on her to touch her hand for 5 seconds. Be prepared for her to roll her eyes hard at you if you don't do the work to build the interaction to a point where this kind of escalation would be exciting to her instead of an awkward and overly forward advance.
/r/seduction18/04/25 04:12 AM
11

Is this a date? I have used "palm reading" to flirt before. It definitely can be cringe, you have to make real sure you frame it as a silly flirty joke. When I did this I would describe "their ideal lover" and very specifically describe my own physical features. Usually good for a laugh.
/r/seduction18/04/25 04:03 AM
1

Of my last 7 partners, 6 were not into tongue kissing.
/r/seduction15/04/25 04:57 PM
0

Still not a fan of French kisses. Feel like most women think they're gross too.
/r/seduction15/04/25 06:15 AM
3

First off, you should never explicitly invite her back for sex. If you have escalated to kissing on the date you can consider inviting her back to make out and cuddle. But if you haven't gotten very physical on the date yet, you need to frame it like you're just going for a drink, or to listen to music, or to check out your cool art collection or something. She knows you may take the opportunity to escalate if she goes to your place so she won't agree if she's not already somewhat OK with the id…
/r/seduction15/04/25 06:14 AM
11

I agree do both but for me personally OLD is like the 80% of work that gets me 20% of results. In person is far more juice for the squeeze
/r/seduction11/04/25 02:05 AM
2

"I definitely kept flirting when she wasn’t really responding to it ‘well’, " This might be your problem then. Some gals take longer to get to a flirtatious stage over text. Initiating flirtation is OK but if she's not responding in kind you should probably cool off the flirting for a bit. Some girls will just "go through the motions" on a date and get close to you, touch you, kiss you to see if they're into it or not. Might be you didn't do anything wrong and her attraction levels just weren't …
/r/seduction09/04/25 03:02 AM
10

If she likes you she will text you, but I generally agree a week is too long to wait early on. You shouldn't be blowing her up but you can't let things cool off or look uninterested. I always send a date follow up like same or next day. Then sometime about halfway until the next date a quick ping with a funny meme or thing that made you think about her. Then morning of date a quick confirmation. That's 3 quick low investment points of contact that all give her an opportunity to engage if she wan…
/r/seduction09/04/25 01:41 AM
1

You can ask questions on a date. What you should avoid is making it into Q&A the whole time. Regarding the camping example: you could ask a follow up question like "where else have you camped?" or "what's your scariest camping experience?" You could also share a similar story about camping or outdoor activities. Frame the story as a shared experience, rather than trying to "one up" her. You can practice rephrasing questing as statements too. An easy way to do this is to just state your answer to…
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:50 PM
2

You've got to realize that if you have significantly different values then there is no potential for relationship. You aren't "saving" the potential by lying about your positions on things. Now that's not to say be an offensive asshole, but you should not lie / hide your disagreements on topics.
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:39 PM
-1

I think it's less about rizz and more about gender economics. Women are more selective because the risks and costs of getting pregnant are so much higher for them. Guys are less selective because they can evade those consequences (if they're pieces of shit) So you end up with a situation where its guys who are trying to rizz up girls, and girls are taking the best mates available to them.
/r/seduction04/04/25 11:17 PM
3

Apparently there were two serious relationships squeezed in there somewhere. If they were exclusive for any amount of time it would make the numbers even more ridiculous
/r/seduction30/03/25 07:08 PM
2

Your math isn't mathing. Unless you're fucking all 3 of these women who approach you on your weekly social night. Which is pretty difficult to believe
/r/seduction30/03/25 07:07 PM
1

Yeah sure wear them if you think they look cool. I think we're playing with a very loose definition of "healing powers" meaning "look good feel good" but you found a way to talk about something you don't entirely agree on without being antagonistoc and that's the key with this sort of thing.
/r/seduction29/03/25 10:45 PM
3

Honestly that sounds about right. Cold approach numbers are pretty flakey, at least until you get better at establishing rapport quickly. Even then it's pretty hit or miss. Don't be discouraged
/r/seduction29/03/25 09:29 PM
1

Just matter of factly state your view on the matter. "I don't personally believe that crystals have magical healing powers. I do have a really cool geode though"
/r/seduction29/03/25 08:41 PM
0

You're probably misinterpreting their signals. Or approaching with an awkward and anxious vibe
/r/seduction29/03/25 12:48 AM
4

I think they can be good practice for extreme beginners that just need to get more comfortable talking with strangers. But yeah generally should avoid hitting on them
/r/seduction25/03/25 03:53 AM
3

You should 100% not open asking questions about their relationship status. It's really not that awkward to ask them out and they have a boyfriend. Just say something like "ah lucky guy. Anyway.....[next topic or just say goodbye]
/r/seduction25/03/25 02:23 AM
4

Hah. A barber. As if I had enough hair to style
/r/seduction20/03/25 05:06 AM
1

Overthinking. She might be a little attracted to you if you're a good looking guy and you guys had an engaging interaction, but unless shit is on the rocks with her current boyfriend she's not about to leave him over a single interaction like this
/r/seduction18/03/25 05:33 AM
2

Ehhhh usually you're right but I definitely have number closed women I met at clubs and gone in dates / hooked up with them later
/r/seduction16/03/25 07:16 AM
1

It won't hurt but I personally didn't find much difference after I got professional photos done.
/r/seduction15/03/25 06:40 PM
1

What do you mean when you say "asked them out"?
/r/seduction15/03/25 06:37 PM
9

The ones that cheat have shitty partners. The cheating is a symptom of a problem in the primary relationship. I believe anyone could find themselves cheating if they were unhappy in their relationship, perhaps some people are more likely than others. I have slept with a few people who were in the divorce process so I don't think it would be considered true "cheating". I slept with one woman who was "on a break" with their partner. They did get back together briefly after our encounter, but it al…
/r/seduction14/03/25 04:45 PM
2

Wait for your hair to grow back out? If you want to change up your look go for it, worst case you just look like Eminem for a few months
/r/seduction13/03/25 02:28 AM
3

You should not"ask her out" in the generic sense. You should invite her to a specific place for a specific activity at a specific time.
/r/seduction13/03/25 01:16 AM
2

Yeah like I said dude it's good that she wants to come over, but if that's not an option right now you need to tell her that so she could figure out the logistics on her end
/r/seduction13/03/25 01:14 AM
16

I feel where you're coming from, but if your place is not an option you're not going to get anywhere by beating around the bush either
/r/seduction13/03/25 01:08 AM
3

This is toxic shit and I personally wouldn't put up with it.
/r/seduction12/03/25 03:47 PM
1

Agreed. No such thing as immediate results. But there is such a thing as easier and more difficult places to have successful cold approaches that lead to lasting connections. I have approached women in many places and contexts and still feel like grocery store approaches are uncomfortable and inappropriate on most occasions. No need for a beginner to be bashing themselves against a wall when there are better & more appropriate places to practice approach. It's discouraging enough, beginners don'…
/r/seduction11/03/25 11:56 PM
21

"chivalry" is a bit outdated. it is necessary but not sufficient that women feel comfortable around you. It probably would have been fine to flirt a little with the woman you originally invited out, provided you back off if she's not reciprocating. She can still be a friend even if pursuing her romantically goes nowhere. You should def make a habit of going out with a group of women
/r/seduction11/03/25 09:25 PM
1

You develop your social skills. Go out more. talk to strangers. Travel solo for a few months if you can afford it, and try to meet people & form activity groups at every new place.
/r/seduction11/03/25 04:40 PM
2

Except people in parks are actually in a social setting. They're not running errands
/r/seduction11/03/25 04:38 AM
2

Sure. But is this really the best place for a beginner who needs experience and some easy wins? There's not really any point to making it harder on yourself than it needs to be. You have limited time, you might as well spend it meeting women efficiently.
/r/seduction11/03/25 04:36 AM
1

Personally I don't think grocery stores are a good place to try to approach women. They're unlikely to be receptive to you, they're there to get groceries not meet people
/r/seduction11/03/25 12:28 AM
6

"I should point out that I'm pretty shy in these situations, so I wouldn’t have approached them alone." I used to be shy. Shyness is an indicator of a lack of confidence in social skills. You can learn your way out of being shy.
/r/seduction10/03/25 07:17 PM
1

If it's genuinely so loud that you are shouting into earholes to hear people, its probably not a great place to approach verbally. You can make eye contact and extend your hand to invite them to dance. Give them a twirl or two and let them go. If she's responding well, give her a signal to leave the area to go somewhere a little quieter where you can actually have a conversation. Pretty good guide on dance floor approach https://youtu.be/_jStE6-uQgQ
/r/seduction10/03/25 03:40 PM
1

From most to least prolific vectors: Bar / Club / Event, Online Dating, Class / Club / Sports, Travel, Parties, Other. To be fair, Online dating is one of my top "categories" of how I meet partners, but as I said before they were the lowest quality and it's also the least fun because of the grind required. In the big picture, the sum of all my non OLD efforts are both more fun and more productive than the time I spent with OLD.
/r/seduction04/03/25 10:04 PM
1

When I did an improv class it was mostly older ladies. One pretty hot MILF though that I ended up hooking up with.
/r/seduction03/03/25 11:09 PM
1

Join an amateur dance troupe.
/r/seduction03/03/25 11:07 PM
1

I'm not sure you mean by "rounds"? I'm not even sure what kind of venue this was. A bar? A mall? Hand shaking is a bit antiquated I think, especially in a post covid world. I'd skip it personally unless she offers it when you exchange names. Based on the fact that she avoided eye contact after the conversation, she doesn't seem interested. I don't typically approach outside of social environments like bars or clubs. Public approaches in malls / grocery / Street always felt awkward and rude to me…
/r/seduction01/03/25 04:34 PM
1

I hear what you're saying about guinea pigs, but interacting with real women is sort of the only option to get better. I'm not sure what you're proposing OP if they're not supposed to "practice" on women it's just a few minutes of awkward conversation for her. I think it's OK in the interest of developing social calibration
/r/seduction01/03/25 04:22 PM
10

You can't change her values. You can do a better job vetting them before you get to that point. Do you live in a conservative area?
/r/seduction27/02/25 04:31 AM
1

Define authentic? I don't think guys should aim to people please, and they should take a stances on things they feel strongly about. But I disagree that that necessarily means people have to hate you. Like if people don't hate you that doesn't necessarily mean you're doing anything wrong.
/r/seduction26/02/25 03:49 AM
2

Sports are good if they are coed. The idea is to expose you to interact with more women on a regular basis. Going to parties is good too if you can do that responsibly. It's ok if you need to prioritize things besides dating, just don't put it on the back burner forever.
/r/seduction25/02/25 05:36 AM
1

Social skills and status are the most important. You don't have to be the most popular kid at school, but it helps to have a large network of people who consider you a cool dude. Being fit and having some cash are definitely good but aren't' enough on their own. Online highschool is probably not helping. Being in person at a school is good for developing social relationships. If in person isn't an option I would try to join a club or two, ideally that are at least 50% women. This will help you d…
/r/seduction25/02/25 05:09 AM
8

"People either love my advice or absolutely hate it. That means I’m doing something right." Not necessarily true. You could just have bad advice that resonates with assholes. Ever considered that?
/r/seduction25/02/25 04:46 AM
3

It stands for "hot babe" followed by a 1-10 scale of value which is mostly but not entirely based on physical attractiveness. Believe it originated with Mystery in the game.
/r/seduction24/02/25 02:26 AM
14

Can we please stop using terms like "HB10". It is so cringe.
/r/seduction23/02/25 11:02 PM
1

I hate to break it to you buddy. I have friends with 10K+ followers and it's nothing. They still have regular jobs or have to grind very hard to make any money using Instagram as marketing.
/r/seduction23/02/25 09:49 PM
3

Your plan for financial freedom is "social media bro". The hell does that even mean
/r/seduction23/02/25 08:51 PM
3

Lmao ok
/r/seduction23/02/25 08:46 PM
4

What is this financial freedom plan?
/r/seduction23/02/25 08:20 PM
7

I mean sure. I've approached plenty of mixed groups of guys and girls with no issue. I'm saying if the guys get territorial there's very little you can do about it. Unless the guy is being an egregious asshole the girls are not going to stick out their neck for a guy they don't know
/r/seduction22/02/25 09:04 PM
1

That's ridiculous. Hot girls are everywhere. What's the point of looking at them if you can't talk to them? Most of the time those clubs have a quieter smoking area or something you can hang in. I recommend seeking out those areas
/r/seduction22/02/25 08:46 PM
3

Personally I don't like loud bars for approaches. Need to be somewhere you can have a conversation without screaming into each others ears holes
/r/seduction22/02/25 08:18 PM
2

You definitely shouldn't just sit there like a predator and wait for her to be more alone. Just walk up to the group and join the conversation. If you are trying approaches like this in loud clubs where it is hard to hear....don't.
/r/seduction22/02/25 06:47 PM
12

ehhhhhhhh I highly doubt it. Any time I've been in that situation or seen it unfold they side with the guy the know. Or if the guy is truly being an overly aggressive asshole they will try to calm him but tell you to go away.
/r/seduction22/02/25 06:44 PM
1

Yes. The female immigrants moving to the rural areas
/r/seduction21/02/25 10:16 PM
3

Literal fiction my dude
/r/seduction21/02/25 03:40 PM
7

Really no way to know but to run your game and see who responds to it.
/r/seduction21/02/25 03:29 PM
4

Next time throw on some background music, pour a couple glasses of wine, and sit close to her. Watching videos isn't going to turn her on. Interacting with her will
/r/seduction21/02/25 07:59 AM
1

"look abroad" it's not the same as "going abroad". I'm guessing this is referring to like long distance relationships or mail order bride type situation. Would be curious to see the study they're referring to
/r/seduction21/02/25 07:48 AM
2

What do you mean no opportunities? What's stopping you?
/r/seduction21/02/25 07:47 AM
5

I disagree that small towns are good for dating. Even the "picturesque" ones. There's just too few people. Source: lived in small towns / suburbs for six or seven years, struggled mightily, then moved to a city and have been doing much better dating wise
/r/seduction21/02/25 07:44 AM
1

Might as we ask "how do I find water if I live in the desert?" It's possible, but you'll do better if you just move somewhere with more population.
/r/seduction21/02/25 07:42 AM
8

Yup. First time I did it was just talking to some girl outside while waiting for my uber. 15 minutes tops. When my ride arrived I asked her if she wanted to get in and she did. The rest was history.
/r/seduction21/02/25 05:13 AM
26

Honestly one of the biggest components is just finding a girl who's down to hook up that night. Most wont no matter how charming you are because they just don't want to.
/r/seduction21/02/25 02:49 AM
16

I think TV shows are probably a shitty way to judge the actual culture of a place
/r/seduction21/02/25 02:46 AM
3

You kind of have to let them separate themselves. Most of the time when I achieve the same night lay, the girl is out alone. But when she's not, you have to game her friends a little bit too to gain their trust.
/r/seduction21/02/25 02:45 AM
16

Could be. I've managed a same night lay 6 times in about as many years. Honestly only one of them was genuinely "hot" and the rest were not up to my usual standard. It's definitely not easy. Most of those came after ~2 year period where I spent a lot of time, money, and effort to develop social / game skills. Definitely got a little confidence boost the first few times, but in reality there's a lot of circumstances outside of your control that have to be in place for it to happen. You can't hit …
/r/seduction21/02/25 02:44 AM
9

It is highly likely you are reading into their "signals" too much.
/r/seduction19/02/25 04:05 AM
1

IDK what you disagreed with then. I agree with both of your points and said as much.
/r/seduction19/02/25 04:01 AM
2

Yes Please. Though usually the types that are messaging first are not particularly attractive.
/r/seduction19/02/25 03:14 AM
1

I had a low body count in my 20s. It exploded in my 30s. I would probably trade all the one night stands for a single long term relationship that was a good mutual fit. If you genuinely want a longer term relationship with this woman, don't throw that out to chase tail that you might not even catch.
/r/seduction19/02/25 03:11 AM
1

" So i just got the urge to go through her instagram " This is a surefire sign that you are insecure about the relationship "I just feel like you shouldn’t communicate with ppl you used to have sex with while in a relationship." Why? "its not an insecure thing i dont care about who the guy is, its more of a respect thing." This is most definitely an insecure thing. Her liking an exes photo should not bother you. At all. I agree that if you guys have a mutual rule about this you should both be fo…
/r/seduction19/02/25 03:02 AM
11

Confirmed mutual attraction? Just ask her out on a date bro
/r/seduction16/02/25 08:53 AM
13

Well you can start at 30 or you can start at 40. Which do you think will be better?
/r/seduction15/02/25 11:04 PM
1

Dunno where you heard that this was a good idea. Why would some random woman respond to an "authoritative" command from some dude she doesn't know? If you really want to do this, make eye contact, smile, and wave first. If they smile and or wave back, give them a "come here" hand gesture. I've had similar techniques work in the past. Better than that? You walk up to her and say hi.
/r/seduction13/02/25 03:40 AM
1

Not necessarily to hook up....but they are more social settings where the whole point is to go somewhere and do a thing with a group of people. Women in these settings will be much more open to talking with you
/r/seduction10/02/25 05:14 AM
2

Sure. Rec sports or other hobbies / clubs / classes also good. I'm on a soccer team and a dance group and both introduce me to new people / women pretty regularly
/r/seduction10/02/25 05:09 AM
6

I never found every day situations to be particularly good opportunities to approach a random woman. Women aren't primed to be meeting people when they're out running errands so you're already fighting a bit of an uphill battle. In these situations I think keep it more neutral, find a common interest, and swap numbers on a pretense to do that together at some point. But honestly you're probably better off trying to connect with women in a more social setting
/r/seduction10/02/25 05:01 AM
3

I mean what is the goal here? To get her to rethink rejecting you? Or to help hype you up for approaching the next girl? Because she definitely won't rethink rejecting you. Overall I think its a weird thing to say. Best case scenario if she really enjoyed the interaction with you and just had a boyfriend or something she *might* be down to approach another girl with you if she's super social, but even then you have no idea what she'll say. My experience when women wanted to "winggirl" for me is …
/r/seduction06/02/25 06:56 PM
3

Movie dates are pretty terrible until you have established a relationship. Little / no opportunity to talk and touch. Try to go for drinks after at a minimum
/r/seduction05/02/25 09:51 PM
1

You should get over it
/r/seduction05/02/25 07:11 PM
1

Same concept here, just suggest going to the hotel instead
/r/seduction05/02/25 04:46 PM
3

Don't overthink it. It's not "trickier" if you only have a weekend. Often that works In your favor. If she's interested it will be a "now or never" situation. Just go on a regular date. At some point suggest going to her hotel for a nightcap drink. If you've come this far, give yourselves 10 or 15 mins to get comfortable and make a move. I find explicitly mentioning sex before you are in an appropriate venue for it rarely works out. You have to gradually move the encounter to more and more intim…
/r/seduction05/02/25 04:45 PM
19

"I would love to use my eyes and body language at least to let him know I am interested" For fucks sake just go talk to him. That's what guys have to do.
/r/seduction05/02/25 07:43 AM
3

You got to give it to get it. Have fun in your dead bedroom
/r/seduction04/02/25 03:38 PM
9

My personal experience is that unscheduled calls will likely go unanswered, especially with a girl you just met (who may or may not have saved / remembered your number.) Text her.
/r/seduction03/02/25 11:37 PM
3

I hate having a TV in my bedroom personally. Can always start on the couch and move to the bedroom
/r/seduction02/02/25 06:18 AM
2

Stride of pride
/r/seduction01/02/25 06:37 PM
1

"hey there"
/r/seduction01/02/25 06:29 PM
2

You'll get nowhere wishing that ladies will interact with you in this way. Also worth noting that he may be putting in LOTS of effort to grow his social circle and reputation that you aren't seeing. "I have to initiate....have to ..... have to...." I think you have an attitude problem. Like you resent all the work required to be a cool interesting person that women want to know. You can play the game or resent the game but you're going to do poorly if you do both at the same time. all of those t…
/r/seduction30/01/25 05:13 PM
2

Experience
/r/seduction29/01/25 10:36 PM
1

There is always going to be a chance element. All you can do is increase your odds
/r/seduction29/01/25 10:36 PM
12

By being a cool guy that women want to fuck. Not every woman will like you and not every woman is down for hooking up even if she does. You can't make a woman do anything.
/r/seduction29/01/25 10:26 PM
23

If you have to ask the question you probably won't get laid no matter where you go. Anywhere you go where you are a foreigner (assuming the population isn't like....racist towards you) you will probably experience a little bit of a novelty buff from local women, but you still need to run a tight game or they will lose interest quickly.
/r/seduction29/01/25 09:17 PM
1

This has literally never works for me. You should show interest in the people you're interested in.
/r/seduction29/01/25 01:24 AM
5

Come on dude don't do this
/r/seduction29/01/25 01:23 AM
2

If you weren't expecting a message, anywhere between like 15 minutes and a few hours is probably fine. If shes responding quickly you should mirrow her timing. Don't be afraid to read it and then contemplate for a bit, but don't overthink it.
/r/seduction28/01/25 08:52 AM
16

There will be some women that it's a deal breaker, but there's not much you can do about it so you might as well embrace it. I shaved my head at 31 and had shitty thin hair for years before. I do better now than in my 20s
/r/seduction26/01/25 09:32 PM
1

Depends heavily on what you mean by quality of life. There are many lifestyle differences between West and East US culture. Personally I started being much more successful with women when I moved West, in part because I vibe with the culture more here. I agree it's important to be in a decently large city, but a city you like is going to be better than a city you don't. Even if your city skews heavily male, there are lots of activities you can join that skew heavily female, which can help tilt t…
/r/seduction25/01/25 01:22 AM
1

I always found dinner to be kind of a poor choice for first date. Maybe somewhere that has light appetizers or something but full on meals should be saved for later dates
/r/seduction23/01/25 03:24 AM
3

There is a fine line between teasing and flirting. Easy to do it wrong
/r/seduction21/01/25 05:54 AM
1

Wait so how old are you? Coming out of a 20-year marriage and dating a mid-20s woman?
/r/seduction19/01/25 08:43 PM
1

Silence your notifications. Or don't. That decision shouldn't be about how you anticipate her reacting to it.
/r/seduction19/01/25 08:11 PM
1

You can't make a Reddit post about how silencing notifications from a woman will affect her attraction to you and then turn around and say you're not playing games. You're playing games my man.
/r/seduction19/01/25 07:58 PM
1

The fact that you measure going "no contact" as "successful" in attracting her is a great indicator that your attitude is all wrong. You're playing games to get at this woman. If you want to go no contact by all means go no contact but it's not strategy to get a woman to come back to you
/r/seduction19/01/25 07:30 PM
1

Wtf is this gradeschool shit. How can people tell the other person's notifications are silenced? You sound like a petulant child. "I'm not talking to you until you invite me out on a date" is the most cringe thing I've ever heard. I would be very surprised if she actually obliges you
/r/seduction19/01/25 06:27 PM
2

Message game AI
/r/seduction19/01/25 06:15 PM
1

I have dated a few women who do porn or strip or only fans and they are by far the most fun in the bed
/r/seduction19/01/25 06:44 AM
2

I thought ice white message game was OK. At a minimum it had lots of examples of text conversations that worked you can glean your own insights from. He also has an AI service you can subscribe to which actually wasn't terrible for bouncing message ideas off of to get creative juices flowing.
/r/seduction19/01/25 12:41 AM
3

Honestly dude. Just keep seeing her and pushing the envelope a little bit each time. Maybe next time you fondle her pussy or go down on her. If you suddenly start acting more cold and distant it will seem weird to her, and may cause her to reciprocate. I've never found the "let her chase" or "be disinterested" advice to work very well. She's already shown you that she's not going to escalate herself. Just be persistent but don't cross any hard boundaries she sets on what level of intimacy she is…
/r/seduction18/01/25 05:24 PM
1

Please her with toys and other things. You don't need a big dick to please a woman.
/r/seduction18/01/25 08:58 AM
4

Just look into a guys eyes and get close to / touch him alot. Start with appropriate places like his arms or shoulders. If he likes you he will reciprocate and escalate.
/r/seduction17/01/25 09:57 PM
2

If you see someone you want to talk to, get in front of them and make eye contact. I find a little wave to get their attention can be helpful. Once they're looking at you say whatever you wanted to say. "Hey you look familiar" or "I really dig that shirt" or "I saw you absolutely crushing it on the dancefloor" or whatever. I find the conversation usually flows pretty naturally from there. Won't always though, some people just won't be interested in talking. That's ok, just say it was nice chatti…
/r/seduction17/01/25 05:52 PM
12

Sometimes you go on a hot streak. Sometimes you go on a cold streak. Always reflect on what you could have done better but sometimes you're just on an unlucky streak and shouldn't read into it too much.
/r/seduction17/01/25 05:26 PM
3

Take a hint dude. It's easier for a girl to give you her contact info to get you to go away, then it is to just tell you they're not interested and risk you getting pissed off and potentially violent.
/r/seduction15/01/25 06:08 AM
2

"she was just fucking with me pissed me off hella, why click the button yourself on my phone when ur not gonna accept the request?" You're answering your own question. Because she didn't want to piss you off by rejecting you to your face. A girl brushing you off like this is a bummer but it really shouldn't piss you off. You need to work on your ego and attitude. Next time this happens your response should be "oh well, she wasn't into me no big deal". Women don't owe you anything for talking to …
/r/seduction15/01/25 06:06 AM
1

It seems a bit incongruent to me that you would want to just do foreplay type things without the intention of proceeding to sex. As a guy I wouldn't be mad about it but I would wonder what is going on in your head.
/r/seduction08/01/25 06:39 PM
5

Speaking from experience, I went on a movie date with a girl for our 2nd or 3rd date. We had been texting decently often since the first, and while we hadn't had sex we had got a little bit intimate. The movie was just a terrible place to try to build any kind of vibe at all. I don't think anything happened on that date intimacy wise. Not saying it's going to ruin anything, you'll likely cause more damage by panic changing the plan at this point but maybe try to make a point of getting some good…
/r/seduction08/01/25 06:11 PM
18

First off, movies are terrible for at least the first few dates, especially if you haven't been intimate yet. You just kind of sit together and watch a thing without talking. I would definitely try to add a quick stop at the bar or something before heading to your place so you can flirt a bit and loosen up with a drink. When it comes time to invite her to your place don't make it explicitly about sex. Say that your cat missed her or that you have to show her something. Get comfortable in your pl…
/r/seduction08/01/25 05:36 PM
1

How is this disrespectful to you? I don't think you really understand the concept of boundaries. They are limitations you put on yourself for behaviors you will or won't tolerate. They are not limitations on other people
/r/seduction05/01/25 03:57 PM
1

I was around your age too when I slept with my first woman. It's easy to feel resentful, but just try to relax my dude. My first experience was low key kinda underwhelming and I wondered why I had built it up in my head so much.
/r/seduction01/01/25 01:04 AM
1

If she asks be honest and matter of fact about it, but otherwise there's no need to bring it up.
/r/seduction30/12/24 07:54 PM
1

Mystery opener feels very gamey and girls will sense that. Especially with an inflammatory question like men or women lying more. You don't actually give a shit about the answer you're just using some canned question to talk to a person. It's weird. More often than not I just step in front and wave to get their attention, make eye contact and then say hello or compliment something about their outfit that I like. It's important to make sure they're looking at you when you say something or they mi…
/r/seduction30/12/24 05:48 AM
6

Have a goal when you're messaging her. Don't just shoot her a message to chit chat. You want to always try to steer the conversation towards meeting up. Story replied are a good way to get started, but don't force it. Reply if you have something meaningful to say.
/r/seduction30/12/24 05:44 AM
0

15 of 62 were dating apps. About tracks with my personal experience where about a 20% of my partners were from online dating. If all you do is online dating guys, you're missing a lot of the action
/r/seduction28/12/24 01:28 AM
2

What did you do exactly?
/r/seduction27/12/24 02:51 PM
3

I've heard good things about OMG yes. I'm not even sure what a "politically correct" sex book would look like?
/r/seduction27/12/24 02:47 PM
2

Yes but bars and clubs are poor way to make friends
/r/seduction27/12/24 02:44 PM
1

I'm not saying give validation. I'm saying be confident enough to show interest. Having other options helps both with boosting your confidence. Like obviously don't go overboard and get needy but girls want you to be interested and if they think you're not they won't invest.
/r/seduction27/12/24 08:06 AM
1

Probably already too late to do anything. You should have just invited her out on to do something after she said she was willing to invest and get to know you better.
/r/seduction27/12/24 02:43 AM
1

I never understood this idea to "play uninterested" it's never worked for me. If you give a girl "disinterest" vibes she's going to mirror that right back at you. You need to be interested but outcome independent. IE, you're interested in her, and your confident enough to say it, but you aren't so emotionally invested that a rejection is going to upset you.
/r/seduction27/12/24 02:40 AM
1

Don't make fun of her nose bro that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Also I find that "mirroring" their text pace when they take 12+ hours to respond is a death spiral. You don't think she's interested so you dont respond quick, she thinks you're disinterested etc. just get back with her within a few hours max. Quicker of you're actually not busy at the moment.
/r/seduction25/12/24 01:29 AM
1

Depends on your definition of seduce. College marked the beginning of my departure from Catholic teachings on sex, so for a year or two I wasn't even trying to have sex. I dated a girl for a few weeks my freshman year. we made out and slept in the same bed a few times Junior year I had a girl sleep in my bed / makeout. Senior year I dated a girl for about a year that I met through on campus job. She was the first girl I had sex with. I probably kissed / madeout with a handful of other women who …
/r/seduction23/12/24 07:08 PM
7

Reddit is probably one of the worst possible ways to do this.
/r/seduction18/12/24 09:05 PM
1

So join them. going with a group of girlfriends is like. The best possible scenario.
/r/seduction17/12/24 05:08 PM
2

I'm in my mid 30's and have never had a larger social circle. Yeah it's harder than making friends in college, or even your 20's, but its not impossible. You just have to find a social thing you like and keep showing up.
/r/seduction17/12/24 05:06 PM
1

If skiing is your thing I'd look for a local club or rideshare group. There's a few in my area on Facebook. I found that meeting people on the slopes is not particularly effective. your best bet would be chatting people up in line / on the chairs or in a base area when you're taking a break.
/r/seduction17/12/24 06:59 AM
2

I do ski and that hasn't been as productive as my other two hobbies at meeting new folks, but I enjoy it and it is a good thing I can invite girls to do. Probably could be a better way to meet people if I put more effort into a regular ski club or something but I don't.
/r/seduction17/12/24 06:50 AM
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Yes there are some. I think they are more prevalent on dating apps than if you actually meet people more organically. Don't write them off though, they can still be lovely people and good partners. I've dated a few and usually the reason it doesn't work isn't their kid.
/r/seduction17/12/24 06:44 AM
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I'm in my mid 30's and regularly meet new people and women. Pick a coed hobby or three and show up regularly. Dance and sports are both great ways to meet fit attractive women. I started a recreational coed soccer team and joined a fire dance performance group. Go out with people you meet at those things to parties or bars or whatever and meet their other friends. New people regularly cycle through all of my social groups so there's always opportunities to meet new folks and expand the circle.
/r/seduction17/12/24 06:37 AM
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I feel like I have given online dating a fair shake. I had high quality photos taken, I posted my profile for review by guys, girls, and dating coaches. All to generate maybe a fifth of the quantity and quality I was achieving regularly just by working on my social circle, and grinding the apps was way less fun that just going out and being social. Hinge was honestly one of the least productive apps I ever used. Had OK results on Tinder and Feeld, but nothing to write home about.
/r/seduction17/12/24 06:31 AM
7

I mean. You said yourself she's not interested. You can invite her to do stuff but if she's not down there's not much else you can do
/r/seduction16/12/24 09:03 PM
24

where is here?
/r/seduction16/12/24 08:39 PM
616

Dating apps have consistently been the the most effective way for me to get almost no dates with the lowest quality women possible. Work on expanding your social circle.
/r/seduction16/12/24 07:09 PM
2

alone time in the car.
/r/seduction12/12/24 08:11 PM
2

IDK what CLT is but you should take the opportunity to spend some alone time with her. You're not gonna get any action while driving a car so just take the time to vibe, get to know her, maybe flirt a bit.
/r/seduction12/12/24 06:31 PM
2

General advice around here is not to "confess feelings", especially early on. It signals asymmetric emotional investment. In the past when I would tell a girl "I like you and want to take you on a date" it never worked out well. I've had better results just vibing with a girl and if we're clicking inviting them to meetup. I wish it was as simple as just telling people you liked them and want to take them on a date and see who reciprocates but just the act of saying that seems to be a turn off fo…
/r/seduction12/12/24 05:56 PM
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Just go. It will be good for your personal development. Foreigners tend to have a slight advantage in dating because you stand out a bit from the local guys. I wouldn't say you have to be a hardcore partyer, but you do have to develop a social life of some variety.
/r/seduction12/12/24 02:19 AM
1

What do you mean by communicating what he wants? I don't really understand why being interested in a person and asking them on a date wouldn't be considered "enough"
/r/seduction12/12/24 12:00 AM
6

What makes you so sure it wasn't his cologne? I think you way overreacted
/r/seduction10/12/24 07:11 AM
11

Exposure is the only cure. Keep going out and keep talking to people
/r/seduction10/12/24 03:54 AM
2

Not sure what the problem was. I think i fixed it?
/r/seduction10/12/24 01:47 AM
5

An economist published a paper about this. TLDR the most efficient is for each user to leave it in the position used. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1465-7295.2009.00277.x IMO The only non negotiable position is that if you're peeing standing up, you must lift the seat up. Also not worth the effort to fight this, if your girl has an opinion on this just go with it. I'm also a strong proponent of dudes sitting to pee. Especially in the dark. More relaxing, less mess.
/r/seduction10/12/24 01:39 AM
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"You can literally flirt throughout the day with a girl and she might end up hooking up with a different guy altogether. " This is true in any social environment, and it's just a natural part of the process. People flirt with several others and eventually pair off. Personally I'd avoid hand holding. It's not really that sexy, and you need to be 100% sure she's comfortable with it. The reason it's "traveling like wildfire" is probably because you are escalating too quickly and making her uncomfor…
/r/seduction09/12/24 08:55 PM
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Dude what? You're traveling. If you "mess up" with a woman you can have a fresh try at the next destination. And honestly, as long as you're not a pushy creep with a woman she's not gonna like tell her friends you were flirting with her. You can just start talking to another gal. You only have like a few days at any place. Shoot your shot and see what happens. There are literally no stakes.
/r/seduction09/12/24 08:27 PM
1

Take improv classes and be genuinely interested in learning more about her as a person
/r/seduction07/12/24 06:15 AM
9

Personally I have never seen this. If I'm cold / detached / disdainful / I find women mirror that Sometimes a woman will like me when I don't like her, but I don't think it's because I don't like her. Plenty of women I don't like that also don't like me back.
/r/seduction05/12/24 10:29 PM
1

I bend pretty stubbornly upwards too. Girl on top positions are uncomfortable for me unless she's leaning towards me to make the angle work better
/r/seduction04/12/24 11:39 PM
1

You like bouncing ? I find it terrifying. I slipped out once and nearly had my dick bent in half.
/r/seduction04/12/24 11:38 PM
2

Eye contact has been challenging for me to get right. It has always made me uncomfortable and I find myself either making too little eye contact, or forcing myself to do it and overdoing it.
/r/seduction04/12/24 08:23 PM
18

Grinding is good. Lifting up your entire body and slamming it back down is terrifying and dangerous. Whatever you do on top, do it in controlled motions so you don't break his dick if he slips out. Girl on top is a leading cause of Dick injury.
/r/seduction04/12/24 12:11 AM
9

It will likely feel a lot different than you expect. I found it kind of underwhelming and had a hard time getting off the first few attempts. Just relax and enjoy and don't get too hung up if things don't work as expected.
/r/seduction28/11/24 11:58 PM
2

Lmao. Looked at your "optimizing OLD" post and one of the first things it says is "will not work if you're short ...old ...etc." Well I'm short and bald and a few years older than you. Otherwise pretty fit and not bad looking. In the last year for every one date I generated from OLD I generated 5 from social circle and cold approach methods, and those girls were generally way more attractive than the OLD ones. People should use whatever strategy work for them but OLD is far from being objectivel…
/r/seduction27/11/24 08:02 PM
1

Need to be careful not to like. Dump relationship expectations of starting a family too heavily from the get go, but yes it needs to be in the conversation early on. Make a joke about how your future kids would look and see how she reacts
/r/seduction26/11/24 01:51 AM
3

Triggering? How?
/r/seduction23/11/24 10:55 PM
17

Over 6'2" is like 4% of guys, and they are in very high demand. If you're struggling to keep these dudes attention, consider lowering your standards
/r/seduction23/11/24 06:15 PM
6

I lived in a college town until my late twenties. I didn't sleep with any students and honestly, by then I wasn't interested in kids that young anymore. You're in your thirties dude, time to stop fucking around with college students.
/r/seduction21/11/24 10:54 PM
7

There's absolutely no reason to judge men or women for a high body count. As long as their STD screenings are clean I say play ball My brothers in christ, if you want to have sex with many beautiful women, you need to stop shaming them for giving you what you want
/r/seduction20/11/24 04:37 PM
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Honestly you're slaying. I average around 2 or 3 new women a year and I feel like that doing well enough for a short, balding, mid 30s man Even when I was traveling my most prolific year was 5 women
/r/seduction19/11/24 10:33 PM
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There's really no way to tell ahead of time. Honestly sounds like your ratio of first date sex is pretty dang high.
/r/seduction19/11/24 10:02 PM
3

Nothing wrong with wanting hookups but your general attitude here seems to indicate you really only view her as a sex object. Even hookups / FWB situation need to have some level of relationship built up to work. If it's not legal to kiss / escalate in public, pick a place you can hangout like a bar or coffee shop. Something low key and not too expensive. If your vibing and she seems comfortable with being close to you and physical contact ask if she wants to go to your place (or hers) to contin…
/r/seduction19/11/24 08:25 PM
1

Why would you cancel it? Some people aren't on Instagram all day. Girls with large followings get lots of requests and overlook them easily. Friend of mine I've known for 2 years just followed me back a few days ago. I never noticed she hadn't accepted.
/r/seduction19/11/24 04:24 PM
1

Personally I think malls are terrible places to approach women. I'm not sure why they get recommended here so much. Good job getting out there doing night game
/r/seduction19/11/24 07:44 AM
5

I made this mistake. When I first chatted a girl up on a dating app, she said something about coming over to check out my bedroom wallpaper. Logistics didn't work out for me and I left town for a few weeks. I hit her up when I was back and basically jumped straight to asking her to come check out my wallpaper. She ignored it. You got to flirt a bit to build the anticipation back up and then hit her with " hey why don't we watch that show you wanted to check out?"
/r/seduction19/11/24 02:56 AM
0

You know what else isn't going to make her want you out of nowhere? You doing literally nothing and her wanting you out of nowhere and texting you.
/r/seduction16/11/24 09:44 AM
1

Good stuff. Thanks for sharing
/r/seduction16/11/24 09:27 AM
2

I don't think the occasional double text is as bad as people here make it out to be. You're more likely to get a girl to respond by sending a second message a day or two later than you are by dropping it entirely and hoping she reaches back out If she ignores the second text drop it. Never blow up a girl's phone if she's not responding
/r/seduction16/11/24 01:44 AM
5

Then we're not talking about a double text are we. We're talking about three plus texts with no response
/r/seduction16/11/24 01:43 AM
4

I get more attention in real life for sure.
/r/seduction16/11/24 12:23 AM
5

Cool your jets. You can't fuck every woman you see. Manifesting is bullshit and doesn't work, stop doing that immediately. Honestly sleeping with 3 women in a year isn't bad. Just keep doing what you're doing, maybe chill a bit and try to learn how to just be friends with some women
/r/seduction15/11/24 05:10 AM
1

How is online dating more efficient? I've slept with 22 women in the last 10 years. 4 of them came from online dating, and they were the least attractive of the bunch. Three of my four girlfriends came from cold approach / social circles. Maybe your mileage varies, but for me the numbers are clear. cold approach / social circle is much more efficient than online dating at actually producing dates, sex, and relationships with high quality women.
/r/seduction14/11/24 04:11 PM
2

If she responds well ask her how she's been and see if she wants to go for a drink to catch up
/r/seduction14/11/24 04:56 AM
1

Not sure what you mean. I said it was reviewed to mean that I've got an input from multiple different people to make sure it's optimized well for me. I've stuck my photos on photo feeler, had lady friends review it, etc. I have good reason to believe my profile is as good as I can get it for me, and online dating is still a grind that produces suboptimal results. I do much better with social Circle game.
/r/seduction14/11/24 02:39 AM
1

Never approach from behind. If you want to dance with her get in front of her and make eye contact. After dancing in front for a bit and she is still looking at you, offer your hands for her to take them. Now you're dancing with her.
/r/seduction14/11/24 01:15 AM
0

Sure. But you still have to somehow cut through the chaff. If she's got several hundred likes and 95% of the messages are trash, do you think she's really going to filter through all those messages to find yours? You also have to match first. A woman who matches with nearly anyone she swipes with is going to be picky as fuck. Personally I have really low match rate despite professional photos and multiple reviews by male and female dating coaches. I'm bald, short, and mid 30s, all of which are a…
/r/seduction14/11/24 01:11 AM
0

I did. I lived in a shitty area for meeting women and now I live in a better one.
/r/seduction14/11/24 12:39 AM
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Dude you're young. You have plenty of time to both optimize your profile AND develop your social skills and social circle. I'm 36. Sure. Real life has more variables. You also can control them more. A woman can see and feel who you are in the flesh, not a few pictures and short bio. If you join a group and it's a sausage fest, join a different group. No dateable women? Join a new group. Woman has a boyfriend? Great, hang out with her and meet her friends. I agree. You shouldn't go out with a vag…
/r/seduction13/11/24 11:58 PM
2

Go for it but I wouldn't get your hopes up. Tell her you saw something that reminded you of her. Even better if you can send a meme or joke or something.
/r/seduction13/11/24 11:42 PM
4

Meeting women IRL also develops skills that women generally find attractive in a man. Social skills. Social connections. Confidence. Active lifestyle Etc. keep fiddling with your profile of that makes you happy, but you're only limiting yourself.
/r/seduction13/11/24 11:37 PM
2

You're making excuses. If you don't live in an area conducive to meeting women, move. If you aren't in social circles condusive to meeting women, build or join them. If you lack the social skills and comfort level to interact with people, develop those skills. In the last ten years I've used a combination of apps and social circle / cold approach. Ive slept with 22 women in that time. 4 of which I met on an app. They were the lowest quality of the bunch. No one's telling you to stop using the ap…
/r/seduction13/11/24 11:27 PM
1

I can't say I've ever had a woman who got more interested when I stopped texting them. I've had more success taking the lead messaging them then waiting for them to act
/r/seduction13/11/24 07:57 PM
0

Where are all these girls who go crazy when you ignore them occasionally? Never been my experience.
/r/seduction13/11/24 05:10 PM
1

Most girls I've slept with wanted it more on their periods. The few that didn't we're just squeamish about it being "gross"
/r/seduction13/11/24 05:08 PM
5

You should never count on them coming back later. If they're not into it for whatever reason, just let them drift and stay connected on socials. Maybe respond to a story of hers once in a while. If she has any interest at a later date she will put herself back in play but I wouldn't count on it
/r/seduction11/11/24 09:31 PM
2

Like I said, there's a lot going on before they touch. You don't know if they already know each other. At a minimum they've made eye contact and she's giving nonverbal signals that she's OK with him approaching. Until you get used to this you'll probably want to use gestures like holding your hand out inviting her to grab it, or give her a little twirl signal with your finger and see if she responds. Imitating a dance move can get her attention, see if she imitates any of your moves.
/r/seduction11/11/24 07:52 PM
2

Right but I thought there was risk of getting banned? Like do you have to use new email, new photos, etc? I'm not sure I have many good photos that I haven't already posted on tinder
/r/seduction10/11/24 01:17 AM
3

How did you "reset" tinder?
/r/seduction10/11/24 12:45 AM
1

Idk I read both of those books and didn't find them to be particularly groundbreaking. It was all stuff I already considered to be common sense. Then again I've never really found any variety of self-help book all that useful. Nothing can substitute for experience
/r/seduction09/11/24 08:32 PM
9

There's probably a lot going on before you see those guys grab a girl's hand. They've been making eye contact, facing each other, hell maybe even talking 20 minutes ago outside.
/r/seduction09/11/24 07:04 PM
3

Personally I have the most success with this by first approaching/ talking with a woman at the club then taking her to the dance floor. If you aren't tall / good looking / wearing flashy clothing you probably won't get much attention purely from non verbal dance floor approaches.
/r/seduction08/11/24 07:58 AM
3

Yeah next time just leave off the part that you've never been on a date. Just say I like to get coffee or drinks or go for a walk or whatever.
/r/seduction07/11/24 10:49 PM
7

All she asked was what you wanted to do on a date. You didn't need to volunteer that you've never been on one.
/r/seduction07/11/24 09:50 PM
9

She didn't even ask how many people are into him. He just volunteered that information
/r/seduction07/11/24 09:50 PM
10

You're not wrong but you also don't need to divulge information that gives the illusion that no one wants to go on a date with you. You need to sell yourself
/r/seduction07/11/24 09:49 PM
2

Ridiculous. If a man was in a relationship with a physically and emotionally abusive woman, your advice would be to "flirt with her bro"? Get outtta here
/r/seduction07/11/24 02:25 AM
2

No. I'm not saying men never attempt brute force. I'm saying it makes no sense that 1. a woman would try to do this to a man she didn't want and 2. that it would have any positive effect on a man who was already forcing himself on her.
/r/seduction07/11/24 02:15 AM
2

No. I believe that WHY THE FUCK WOULD A WOMAN TRY TO SEDUCE A MAN WHO IS FORCING HIMSELF ON HER. By definition she doesn't want the man
/r/seduction07/11/24 02:11 AM
1

Literally no dude lmao. You don't seduce people who are violently subjugating you.
/r/seduction07/11/24 02:04 AM
3

That doesn't make any sense bro. Are you saying women started seducing men in response to "conquer by force" behavior from men? How would that stop anything?
/r/seduction07/11/24 01:56 AM
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Hit the gym
/r/seduction06/11/24 04:18 AM
10

You don't need his permission to have a crush on him. It's weird to announce that to him if you truly have no intentions to escalate
/r/seduction04/11/24 11:21 PM
1

Extremely rare. Typically see no smile and eyes darting away.
/r/seduction04/11/24 07:39 PM
2

Thats a weird assumption to make. I do all of those things pretty regularly.
/r/seduction04/11/24 07:28 PM
1

Probably about an hour. Talked to some chick outside of a club while waiting for a lift. Invited her to hop in when the car arrived and she rode back to my place where we hooked up.
/r/seduction04/11/24 05:38 PM
43

I feel like I never see girls giving me eye contact. Their eyes dart away as soon as they meet mine.
/r/seduction04/11/24 03:44 PM
0

I'm not convinced she's actually confirmed for Friday. She pitched it, he said that works, but she never said anything to the effect of "ok see you then" All they really confirmed was that they both are available, not that they're actually doing anything
/r/seduction31/10/24 02:38 AM
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Sounds like you have deep seated shame / guilt around sex. I think you need to do some self-reflection about why sex is making you feel this way. It's okay to want sex. It's okay to enjoy sex. It's okay to have sex with as many of as few different people as you want. It's okay to have sex shortly after meeting. It's okay to wait to have sex. It's okay to have hookup sex. As long as everyone involved is enthusiastically consenting and managing risks appropriately with condom use / regular testing…
/r/seduction30/10/24 09:52 PM
1

What the hell kind of question is this? Even if true do you WANT to be in a relationship based on emotionally degrading your partner into submission?
/r/seduction30/10/24 07:51 PM
4

It's a bad sign that she assumed the date was off if you had already negotiated a time and place for it. I think it's appropriate to make it clear that yes, you blocked out time on your calendar. I would have said something like "why wouldn't we be on for tomorrow? If Friday works better I can swing that too." Regarding the more general question on double texting, it's usually not great but the alternative of doing nothing won't work either. Just wait a day or two and send a fresh message. If th…
/r/seduction30/10/24 07:24 PM
6

Barring legal circumstances, I would only pay for sex if I was actually attracted to the woman. What's the point of spending $50 bucks if you're not even into the product she's offering?
/r/seduction30/10/24 07:15 PM
3

I mean yeah if you want to have lady guests over you need a space for them. I live in a condo also. My home office doubles as entertainment center and I set my couch in front of it
/r/seduction30/10/24 02:01 AM
2

I have occasionally messaged girls directly on IG. Occasionally I got a response and would take with a woman for a few days. Never panned out into a date. A lot of these women are looking to buff up their IG follow numbers
/r/seduction30/10/24 01:42 AM
2

I don't own a tv. When I have girls over I just play music (or sometimes videos/ TV) from my computer and hang out on the couch until things move to the bedroom
/r/seduction30/10/24 01:39 AM
1

I mean. If you're interested and she still lives nearby you could maybe try one more shot but I wouldn't get your hopes up. Something like "hey nice reconnecting with you. What's new?"
/r/seduction29/10/24 10:13 PM
5

Forget it? Why are you reaching out to this person 8 years later?
/r/seduction29/10/24 09:59 PM
5

Rather than blame women, look to things you can do differently. Can you get more fit? Can you join more social clubs? Can you widen your social circle? Can you become a better conversationalist? Can you just enjoy being in the company of women without trying to fuck them all the time? Resent is toxic as fuck and you will get nowhere as long as you avoid taking responsibility for the things you can do better. Women can sniff misogyny from miles away, you need to exorcise that shit from your soul
/r/seduction29/10/24 08:48 PM
10

If you have your own room it shouldn't be that big a deal.
/r/seduction29/10/24 07:28 AM
1

I agree that double texting is not ideal, but there also nothing to lose by shooting off another message. Maybe your first text didn't deliver. Maybe she got busy. Who knows. You have nothing to gain by doing nothing. I have a "stop texting after 2 messages go unreplied" rule that serves me well. Can cut through mild disinterest while not getting to the point of needy desperate harassing texts.
/r/seduction29/10/24 12:31 AM
1

My thoughts too. Might as well send a message on the off chance the previous one didn't deliver. Nothing to gain by assuming disinterest.
/r/seduction29/10/24 12:21 AM
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Thank you for the very helpful and insightful feedback
/r/seduction25/10/24 06:19 PM
3

Sure. Will DM you.
/r/seduction25/10/24 02:57 PM
8

The OPs lines? I mean I use something like them when I match with people but that's what I'm saying. You can't do text game if you don't have people to text.
/r/seduction25/10/24 04:08 AM
4

Yes. I've been. I got more matches for sure but the quality still was poor.
/r/seduction24/10/24 10:51 PM
42

I don't see how that matters. It's a city in US. Plenty of women in my age range here.
/r/seduction24/10/24 07:32 PM
32

I live in a large city ~700k people
/r/seduction24/10/24 06:13 PM
295

It's interesting to me how drastically different people experience with online dating goes. I have refined my profile for years with professional photos, several reviews from dating coaches, both men and women, even occasionally paying the premium for more exposure. Maybe 1/5 of my sexual partners came from online dating. And they were by far the lowest quality of the bunch. Can't use text game if you can't get mtatches In the door.
/r/seduction24/10/24 04:48 PM
0

I'm not saying that obstacles can't be overcome. I'm saying they exist and we shouldnt be pretending that they don't.
/r/seduction21/10/24 06:58 AM
1

Sure. And some of those things you have more control of than others. Theres nothing to gain by blaming things outside of your control, but to suggest that "it's all In your head" is just plainly not true.
/r/seduction21/10/24 06:22 AM
5

I mean. I'm a 5'6" guy who has had a handful of women tell me to my face I was too short to date them. I agree that short people can develop an insecurity about it, but the cold hard reality is that height is an important factor for many women
/r/seduction21/10/24 03:52 AM
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You could start by getting off reddit and being present with her .
/r/seduction19/10/24 09:01 PM
6

What are you doing hitting up random people on Instagram for? This is a terrible way to meet women
/r/seduction18/10/24 04:07 PM
1

Move
/r/seduction18/10/24 04:06 PM
2

If there was drinking involved it's not unusual for people to feel like they're having a great time and wake up with only a vague fun memory that's not specific to you. When you're out of the party environment that enthusiasm fades. That said, I would probably still try texting her at least once. Girls get spooked by direct phone calls like this when they don't know a guy very well.
/r/seduction18/10/24 07:23 AM
5

Cut what losses? I agree it's better to schedule something soon but if you can't I don't think that means you give up entirely.
/r/seduction17/10/24 10:33 PM
2

Just because she can't lie about having a boyfriend doesn't mean she won't reject you if she's not interested. Also pretty patronizing to "compliment" her by saying she must be making her boyfriend happy. Could you imagine a girl telling you "your girlfriend must be so proud"? It's emasculating as fuck and you're basically doing the same thing by defining her value in terms of the men who may or may not be in her life.
/r/seduction17/10/24 07:03 PM
4

I don't think they're meeting up though. Sounds like she'll just be at the same event.
/r/seduction17/10/24 07:06 AM
17

What makes you think he's still attracted to you if he's ghosting you?
/r/seduction17/10/24 01:25 AM
3

No I mean who actually is still picking up girls in the mall? I haven't gone to a mall just to hang out since I was a teenager because they're awful horrible places to be
/r/seduction16/10/24 07:49 PM
2

I'd be careful hitting on wedding guests too much when you're supposed to be working. If you are vibing with someone, see if she wants to go for a drink or a bite immediately after the wedding, or barring that get a number and text her the next day. It's not like you're gonna be able to pull her halfway through the event when you're supposed to be taking photos.
/r/seduction15/10/24 07:27 PM
16

High end malls? What year is it?
/r/seduction15/10/24 05:57 PM
16

Lmao. Hard to do AB testing when guys get like one match a week.
/r/seduction14/10/24 03:27 PM
2

https://tinder.com/@georgeodonnell Sure. Let me know what you think
/r/seduction10/10/24 11:36 PM
2

I think you should just go for it now. The weight loss thing is just some excuse your telling yourself
/r/seduction10/10/24 08:45 PM
4

You just gotta expose yourself to more social activities. Join clubs or teams. Go out solo and strike up conversations with random people. Not everyone can do this but I made lots of progress by solo traveling for like 6 months straight. Every few days I had to make a new group of friends to go do stuff with. I was always a pretty shy kid and young adult. these days my friends would describe me as the social butterfly of the crew.
/r/seduction10/10/24 08:42 PM
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I have tinkered with my online profile for years with professional photos, guides, dating coach review, peer review and all that with very little to show for it. Honestly I think online dating is an awful grind that has literally never produced a date with a woman I was genuinely attracted to. Extroversion is a skill that can be learned, it's not a "born this way" personality trait. And in my experience I end up on way more dates with higher quality women by having an active social life with a w…
/r/seduction10/10/24 05:56 PM
4

I mean. Not in the middle of a date I don't think. You should be giving her your full attention if you're spending time together.
/r/seduction09/10/24 01:08 AM
24

Why are you on your phone on a date? Just don't do that ...problem solved.
/r/seduction08/10/24 11:49 PM
1

Definitely better to engage the whole group at first. Her friends will ultimately either be your allies or your cock blockers. Make sure they're your allies.
/r/seduction06/10/24 09:06 AM
1

Honestly dude. This is a terrible reason to break up with a person. Promiscuous girls are the most fun and you should be thrilled she wants to be in an exclusive relationship with you.
/r/seduction06/10/24 09:04 AM
1

Opening by asking for the number is creepy. You need to build some rapport first. I would honestly trash this whole routine, it's too canned.
/r/seduction03/10/24 10:32 PM
9

Old enough to not get my panties in a bunch when women I'm dating have other things going on in their lives besides spending time with me.
/r/seduction03/10/24 09:34 PM
46

If you can't handle a woman occasionally having other priorities or wanting to talk to you.....you're not going to be able to build any kind of relationship remotely looking like a girlfriend. WTF do you expect bro? A woman to just always be available to you but only when YOU want to spend time with her? That's nuts. No one should put up with that kind of behavior. Rethink your approach. Your ego is fragile AF you need to work on it.
/r/seduction03/10/24 06:47 AM
8

Agreed. What I'm saying is once you hit a point of comfortablly taking care of yourself with a little to spare, you get pretty diminishing returns until you literally are so wealthy you attract golddiggers .....which you don't want.
/r/seduction30/09/24 06:55 PM
11

Being rich does not make game significantly easier
/r/seduction30/09/24 06:19 PM
1

Definitely too much. Shit I brought a girl like a candy bar on our first date because I knew it was her birthday and she said it was creepy afterwards
/r/seduction27/09/24 11:16 PM
1

It's highly likely they are exaggerating or straight up lying about their levels of sucess. I traveled a few months in Europe and SE Asia and while I had a slight uptick in sucess rates it wasn't like I was drowning in pussy. I still had to do the work of seduction and I chalk most of the success up to the fact that I just had more free time and was meeting more people than usual.
/r/seduction27/07/24 04:53 PM
1

There are. You have the wrong mindset.
/r/seduction18/07/24 05:13 AM
2

Nobody's saying approach girls you aren't interested or that aren't your type. Approach 100 girls you are interested in. You might be surprised who responds to you
/r/seduction18/07/24 04:51 AM
2

Personally I have spent money on optimizing my online profile with photoshoots and subscriptions and have found that to be a pretty ineffective use of money
/r/seduction15/07/24 10:40 PM
2

"because we see each other all the time and then it could get awkward if he doesn't want something serious." Now you know how dudes feel literally every time we ask a woman out. It's a risk you have to take.
/r/seduction19/04/24 06:10 AM
3

No. You said it looked stupid. Not that it was normal and nothing to worry about.
/r/seduction17/04/24 08:09 PM
8

I mean. I couldn't finish the first 2 or 3 times I had sex because it took me some time to get accustomed to the sesation. It's pretty normal.
/r/seduction17/04/24 06:50 PM
60

I was not particularly prolific in college. Only slept with one woman who was my girlfriend for a year. I went to an all men Catholic high School, so my game skills were very poor. You only hear stories about the people who are having sex, not the ones who aren't, and there's probably a few who are lying or exaggerating. I reckon it's fairly common to go through college without loads of success in the hookup scene. I do better now as an adult, but I also spend a lot of time conscientiously devel…
/r/seduction15/04/24 07:23 AM
14

My favorite palm reading move was to describe the type of person she was attracted to starting fairly generic but gradually more specifically describing things about myself. If she's into you she'll laugh. If she's not you might get an eye roll, but either way it's a pretty good read on their interest levels
/r/seduction14/04/24 04:32 PM
1

There's definitely a right way and a wrong way to develop seduction skills. I always viewed it as a self-development effort. That said, for extreme cases of guys who had very poor social skills sometimes these lists / lines/ are just a starting point to get them talking. Unfortunately some dudes must pass through this awkward, borderline creepy phase in their development and I try not to be too hard on them because I had to push through that phase too.
/r/seduction10/04/24 03:48 PM
2

I read it as the guy making his virgin status a big deal.....but it's kind of ambiguous the way its worded. I used to care about virginity if only to be like a special memorable experience for that person. Also Catholic upbringing probably a factor. But by mid to late 20 it's basically impossible so I don't care too much anymore.
/r/seduction10/04/24 07:18 AM
1

You need to slowly build up the tension. Sit closer to her. Touch her to emphasize a high point in a story. Throw out a few sexual jokes / double entendres. Invite her to your place to check out your art / balcony / music / whatever. Give her some deep eye contact. Kiss her. Make out. Feel all over her body. Tease closer to her boobs and pussy and see how she reacts. If she into it keep going. Feel her over the clothes. Then under the clothes. Then remove the clothes. Kiss her whole body. Eat he…
/r/seduction10/04/24 07:14 AM
57

Texting first? My dude I would have had sex with zero women if I didn't text them first occasionally
/r/seduction10/04/24 07:01 AM
1

I wasted 2 years of my life on a relationship like this. Not worth the effort.
/r/seduction21/02/24 12:48 AM
3

Shameless is one thing. This is borderline self sabotage
/r/seduction09/02/24 06:53 PM
1

You're not wrong but also if you are physically unattractive it's difficult to even start a conversation especially if you have poor social skills. Working on appearance has relatively quick results and give you a better shot at working on those social skills by opening up more opportunity.
/r/seduction09/02/24 04:22 PM
1

Gotta let go of the things you can't change and work on the things you can. 5'9" is a pretty solidly average height for a a man. Really no reason to be insecure about it
/r/seduction09/02/24 04:19 PM
1

Maybe I'm not big enough yet but I havent noticed significant difference. Like maybe helps a liiitttllle but it's not a night and day difference
/r/seduction30/01/24 06:58 PM
2

Not sure I agree with the "don't sit across from your date" advice. It's easier to make eye contact if you are across from them and on a first date I think that's more important ( at least at first) than actually physically touching them.
/r/seduction30/01/24 06:56 PM
2

I tend to have a hard time turning conversations sexual without it coming off as creepy, or if I do we're just talking about sex in general and not flirting at anything with us specifically. IDK this has always been a sticking point for me. I know girls are freaky, thats not holding be back...its that they don't seem to want to get freaky with me
/r/seduction17/07/23 02:56 AM
1

How else could you possibly share sex except between partners?
/r/seduction29/10/22 08:56 PM
1

I think you should relax your standards. You come off as super judgy. Like for example what is it about thotness or hooking up that is a deal breaker for you? I tend to find people who think like this are thinly veiled misogynists
/r/seduction29/10/22 05:08 PM
1

Smokers are super easy to approach. You can ask for a light. Or ask to join. I'm not a smoker myself but I occasionally wish I could have an easy in like that more frequently
/r/seduction28/10/22 10:49 PM
2

You can't really make some one do anything but you can improve your odds by trying to steer the conversation to her passions. If she mentions a hobby or interest, dig in and ask her about it.
/r/seduction28/10/22 06:59 PM
15

I guess I'm still a rookie since I didn't know. Can you actually explain why is it the best scenario?
/r/seduction28/10/22 12:22 PM
3

Not a red flag but I tend to find dinner dates kind of boring
/r/seduction28/10/22 12:18 PM
13

Eh. I don't think it's that creepy. You have mutual friends. Plenty of good reason to randomly introduce yourself to someone
/r/seduction26/10/22 11:54 PM
2

Go for it you want. On occasion I've met up with people by doing this, but it's never panned out and do any kind of sexual relationship I would just be honest and say something like "Saw you on Bumble and noticed we have some mutual friends! how do you know so-and-so?"
/r/seduction26/10/22 11:53 PM
6

Are you saying I'm sexually incompatible with the gorgeous woman 10 years younger than me I just slept with on our third date? I'm no expert but I think I disagree
/r/seduction25/10/22 11:41 PM
49

Agree but also some women just actually take longer to get comfortable and trust you. As long as things are moving in a sexual direction it's ok to not sleep with them the first 2 or 3 times you meet.
/r/seduction25/10/22 09:08 PM
4

The class I did was mostly guys and gals in their '40s and '50s. That said I did hook up with an attractive late 30s MILF.
/r/seduction25/10/22 03:12 PM
2

If you're leaving in two days probably a good idea to tell her that. If she's actually interested it might spur her into action
/r/seduction25/10/22 01:15 PM
7

r/lostredditors
/r/seduction25/10/22 01:10 PM
5

Personally I don't like my tip stimulated that much. See how your guy reacts. Lots of guys also like the underside of their penis near the tip stimulated (frenulum)
/r/seduction25/10/22 01:10 PM
3

Cover your teeth with your upper lip and tongue.
/r/seduction25/10/22 01:08 PM
5

Improv class. Also listen to comedy podcasts.
/r/seduction25/10/22 01:02 PM
6

My first time was underwhelming and I couldn't get off. It takes a little time to adjust to the in person experience rather than the lifetime of jacking off you're currently accustomed to
/r/seduction25/10/22 12:18 AM
1

I want to believe it but it gets old approaching constantly and only finding intermittent success. I'd trade half of my short-term hookups for a single long-term relationship
/r/seduction24/10/22 03:25 AM
1

I mean. She did agree to meet. I'd just say something like "great, Lets plan for 530 at <fun bar>"
/r/seduction24/10/22 12:19 AM
9

1 My friend and I went to a club, just an hour before closing. He started talking to this girl and after 15 minutes of talking, she hooked in his car and went home with him. There are so many factors in a social interaction. But rest assured, there's a lot going on besides the talking. Especially at a club, where it's often very hard to hear people. Body language Facial expressions Gestures Eye contact It's possible that the interaction with that girl started well before he actually started talk…
/r/seduction23/10/22 03:11 PM
1

Eh yeah. Can be that easy. I've also asked out plenty of lady friends and it either went nowhere or I got curved into oblivion
/r/seduction21/10/22 05:15 PM
11

Be careful about your underlying attitude. Girls don't owe you and aren't "fucking you over" by realizing they aren't interested. Not responding instantly is good but don't overdo it, and don't leave them hanging for days if their last message indicated a response. I respond anywhere from 5 minutes to several hours depending on how how quick they are responding / how busy I am but if you're letting days go by without responding you are communicating disinterest in a bad way.
/r/seduction21/10/22 04:26 PM
1

Don't try to do too much at once. Start with baby steps that get you incrementally closer to your goals
/r/seduction18/10/22 07:49 PM
7

That is literally what kino is.
/r/seduction18/10/22 03:41 PM
1

if rent is taking 60% of your income I'd say you probably can't afford to live alone yet. Need to either find cheaper place to live or make more money.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:54 PM
4

I pull plenty from my social circles and event approaches ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/seduction17/10/22 03:54 PM
4

I don't personally feel comfortable with the idea of going out somewhere solely to approach women on the street. I think people would have better results cold approaching at social events and places
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:39 PM
27

Not at all. I'm an engineering professional, I'm about to own a house, I stay in shape by playing sports, and I have a very active social life and large social network. My experience has taught me that I get more results by being proactive than by waiting around
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:34 PM
22

I have a hard time believing this. Or at least if true, then you must be pulling equally old, fat, scary women
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:06 PM
24

You might get away with this if you're already a very good looking dude. As a short bald guy, If I don't actively take the lead on moving the relationship in an intimate direction, I would never, ever get laid. I spent years waiting for girls to flirt/ dance/ escalate physically with me. I only ever got somewhere when I started showing interest and leading the interaction.
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:58 PM
6

You're not mature you're boring. Having a fun social life is part of being a well-rounded person.
/r/seduction16/10/22 11:25 PM
2

I generally don't text chat much. Ut if it's like more than a few days to the date I'll send a ping message. Usually touch base the day before to confirm and then only text meeting logistics the day of.
/r/seduction16/10/22 08:01 PM
1

I feel like social circle has a good reputation here. It's my preferred way of meeting people / women. More fun and organic and OLD. I meet way more people through social circle but I do have a higher chance of sleeping with someone from OLD.
/r/seduction07/10/22 05:14 PM
27

Boy if I was 6'2 and had 10 hours a week to work out....
/r/seduction05/10/22 02:21 AM
1

How are you opening? If you're getting poor response rate might be your openers or not compelling enough for response
/r/seduction20/09/22 07:42 PM
3

Define "success"? Is it that the marriage doesn't break up even if one or both partners are unhappy? I think there's likely some overlap between the "don't sleep around" crowd and the "divorce is evil even if our lives are a living hell" crowd.
/r/seduction12/09/22 08:07 PM
3

Having sex with people you don't have long term relationship with is most definitely not a waste of time. It's fun, you learn what you do and don't like sexually and in a partner, and did I mention it was fun? Sex is special but not because you only do it with one person, it's special because you shared an intimate experience with someone. Sometimes those relationships are long, and sometimes they aren't, but they're never a waste of time.
/r/seduction12/09/22 08:05 PM
1

Why are you "saving" it? I used to think saving it was a good thing but in hindsight it was an unhealthy attitude to sex and I wish I had just started having sex sooner. I think it will end up being a turn off because you ironically put a lot of pressure on sex by building it up to be this hyper important thing that you should only share with one person. Sex is great but you will almost certainly end up disappointing yourself if you wait to share with only one person. Sex isn't as big a deal as …
/r/seduction12/09/22 07:59 PM
1

Congrats on leaving the Incel mind to set behind
/r/seduction08/09/22 06:48 PM
1

Revenge is stupid. Stop spending your precious time and energy on this girl There is no way she's having sex with you again so forget it.
/r/seduction23/08/22 05:29 PM
1

She's almost certainly not coming back and if she does it will be a rebound situation that won't last.
/r/seduction23/08/22 05:27 PM
3

It's not THAT RNG. You can still put yourself in a good position to roll that dice many times and increase your chances of a hit
/r/seduction23/08/22 05:41 AM
20

Sex is often about meeting someone in the right time and place. You can be the most charming attractive person in the world but it's not gonna happen if you meet someone who is not open to sex
/r/seduction18/08/22 08:43 PM
1

Forget sex for minute. You need to get comfortable talking to people in general and women in particular. Best way is to just start doing it more. Go out and talk to people you don't know. Sex will come when your communication skills make you comfortable to talk with
/r/seduction15/08/22 07:56 PM
2

If you aren't cuddling after sex you are doing it wrong.
/r/seduction01/08/22 04:06 PM
2

bottle of wine. listen to music. watch a video. If the girl wants to be alone with you you could say almost anything here
/r/seduction29/07/22 09:03 PM
32

Cuddling after sex is not needy dude. If a girl likes you and wants to cuddle go for it.
/r/seduction29/07/22 05:23 PM
1

Ideally you've built up a bit of tension already and go her comfortable with being physically close to you and touching you. Take it slow. show her around your place. Give her a little shoulder or neck rub. Massage her hands. Its all about taking little baby steps on physical escalation while being attentive to her comfort levels and responding accordingly.
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:47 PM
2

yeah i feel like this only works if you have a baseline interest level going already. Most of the girls I talk to respond so slowly that we aren't having "chats" so much as message exchange over hours or days. If i sent a message around bedtime it would be normal for them to not respond till morning anyway
/r/seduction07/07/22 07:12 PM
2

Honestly If I have any problem it's that I sometimes have a hard time getting off. It's either relatively quick at like 5 to 7 minutes or I get bored and it's not happening
/r/seduction06/07/22 05:56 AM
4

Bro. You are 20. You are doing better than I was at 20. Didn't get laid until I was 21. Just keep improving yourself and try not to compare your success to others. You'll get there
/r/seduction01/07/22 03:25 PM
2

Awesome but be careful. I've been with a couple girls like this and they can lose interest suddenly for no reason and go cold on you. Enjoy it while it lasts and hopefully she stays interested
/r/seduction18/05/22 09:13 PM
1

I mean I've been friendzoned by girls I sleep with. Still struggle to develop a lasting connection with women despite increasing the rate at which I'm meeting new women, getting dates, hooking up etc.
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:38 PM
3

If you watch porn cut back or stop. It trains your body to get excited in non realistic situations. Maybe try viagra
/r/seduction03/05/22 03:30 PM
2

I got quite a few more matches than usual on tinder with local women, but I was moving cities every few days so never really got the opportunity to take any of them out on a date. I did hook up with a fellow traveler at a party hostel, that's probably an easier way to go IMO.
/r/seduction12/04/22 09:35 PM
68

I had a similar situation where I got accused. Wasn't even trying to get with the girl who accused me. Fortunately it never went to court but it ruined my reputation in that particular circle of friends. Just be real careful when drinking. Err on the side of not getting rape accusations
/r/seduction08/04/22 03:04 AM
0

I'm 34 and would probably still date someone in their mid 20s, but much younger than that and they're usually kind of vapid and lack confidence which I find unattractive.
/r/seduction31/03/22 07:50 PM
1

Being short is definitely more difficult but it is possible to improve your success with women no matter how short, ugly, or weird you are.
/r/seduction29/03/22 10:07 PM
1

Feel like I had better luck when I gained weight cause I was really skinny. I have a really hard time putting on and keeping on muscle, its been a struggle
/r/seduction27/03/22 03:39 AM
2

Only 7 at 23 is a pretty good number I'd say. I was at one, maybe two by then. I'm about your height. I've personally found more success in my early 30s than my entire 20s combined. If you keep working on your social skills and fitness you will definitely have more success with women down the road.
/r/seduction21/03/22 09:48 PM
0

It's harder for sure but you can def still have success. Work on a nice physique and good social skills and you can still find success
/r/seduction15/03/22 01:58 AM
2

What are you talking about then?
/r/seduction10/03/22 12:25 AM
5

Strain you and train you endurance? Most girls don't want you to last more than 10 to 15 mins on penetration and plenty want less than that
/r/seduction09/03/22 11:55 PM
1

No nee to be pissed off about this. Your girl did the right thing. Confronting the guy would have been overkill in this situation even if she brought it up in the restaurant.
/r/seduction09/03/22 04:45 PM
9

Idk how people can stand it. I'm itchy for weeks even if I trim it relatively long.
/r/seduction09/03/22 06:27 AM
5

Man even when I trim to like a number 3 I get itchy for weeks.
/r/seduction09/03/22 06:26 AM
13

Never. I can't stand how itchy And chafy I get even when I do a #3 trim. sex is much more comfortable with pubes and they protect against skin to skin STDs.
/r/seduction09/03/22 06:25 AM
1

Your options are to do nothing or to do something. Give it a few days and reinitiate. Also there's no such thing as a perfect tinder match. You barely know this girl
/r/seduction08/03/22 04:06 AM
5

Just go approach him.... Y'all are always waiting for us to make a move. A guy appreciates a woman who knows what she wants and takes action.
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:58 AM
0

Except he kind of is.
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:33 AM
149

I never really understood why guys don't want to sleep with promiscuous women. They're generally very sexual and loads of fun in the bedroom. If you want to live in a world where quality sex is easy to come by, you should absolutely support the women that make it possible.
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:32 AM
1

I've learned that there are almost no ways to "ask" for a kiss in a jokey way. You're asking for validation
/r/seduction01/03/22 04:50 PM
38

Yeah I'm 33. There's some useful mindsets to be found here but there's a lot of garbage too.
/r/seduction01/03/22 04:45 PM
105

Can you describe how they were "really into you"? Honestly that line sounds cringe as fuck and I wouldn't count on getting away with it with women who have a little self respect.
/r/seduction01/03/22 02:57 PM
3

Just relax and talk. Ask her questions. Probably better not to make any big flirty or physical escalation since she's kind of trapped in the car with you. Just try to relax and be comfortable and make her comfortable with your presence. When you drop her off maybe see about setting up a time to hang more like a proper date if things went well
/r/seduction01/03/22 06:59 AM
82

Yeah but the reason girls are checking him out is because he's dorky and doesnt give a fuck /s
/r/seduction01/03/22 03:22 AM
7

I don't disagree that getting fit should be a priority but I never felt like working out boosted my mood at all. On the contrary I hate working out. Being fit lets me do the things I love to do, but I never felt more energy or whatever just from being in better shape
/r/seduction01/03/22 02:51 AM
1

Honestly I found going out to cold approach in random public areas to be mostly unproductive. Go places where it's more socially acceptable to strike up conversation with strangers. Bars, festivals, social clubs etc. If you have the means, solo travel was very helpful for me. Stayed in hostels for 6 months and had to make new friends every day.
/r/seduction28/02/22 07:01 PM
2

It's a dangerous mindset to convince yourself you don't need to improve. There's always something you can improve. Be more fit, learn a new skill, become more social. All of these things raise your value as a man. If you are content with not improving yourself then you will have to settle for girls who are also content with being unattractive
/r/seduction28/02/22 05:55 PM
2

You gotta change your lifestyle man. Move somewhere that's more to your liking with lots of peers. I was in a place where I hated my lifestyle a few years ago and am doing much better now in a new big city. You got to build your lifestyle first and make that enjoyable before you can hope to attract women consistently
/r/seduction24/02/22 03:02 AM
1

Honestly I don't think driving to a college campus just to run game is a good idea. It feels unnatural because it is unnatural. I would try some more normal social things like joining a club or walking through a local park or attending an event. You can get better at this, but if college campuses aren't working for you, go try somewhere else where you can go an have a good time even if you don't talk to a bunch of women.
/r/seduction24/02/22 02:59 AM
1

Your friend sounds like an asshole. If he's getting his feathers ruffled about a girl he's cheating with then fuck him.
/r/seduction22/02/22 04:35 PM
1

The language thing is probably less of an issue than the work thing. Much (most?) Attraction comes from body language.
/r/seduction21/02/22 06:05 PM
1

Gotta break that mindset. Doesn't help you progress and makes you feel like shit in the meantime. Focus on things you can change. I lost my virginity at 21. Dated that girl for less than a year. I was 25 before I had sex again. Fast forward to now and I've had sex with twice as many girls between age 30 and 34 than I did for the entirety of my 20s. Granted I haven't been in a relationship in 5 years and I wish that were different but you can absolutely get better at attracting women and sleeping…
/r/seduction17/02/22 12:13 AM
3

Yep. It's just part of reality that you have to get used to. Nobody owes you anything, not even the woman who gave your her number. Take her lack of response as disinterest and move on.
/r/seduction16/02/22 07:22 AM
1

Start by doing it less, not by stopping completely. I watch porn about once a week and avoid it in the immediate few days before I expect to see a woman. Works well enough. Doesn't give me problems in the bedroom and I don't have to start going down insane porn rabbit holes to get turned on anymore.
/r/seduction04/02/22 01:36 AM
1

Honestly waiting for others to make a move is a losing strategy. Yes if you dress nice and look approachable some people may make a move, but you are muuchhh better off initiating contact. Talk to everyone you see. It might make other people notice and approach you because they see you being such a sociable person
/r/seduction02/02/22 07:56 PM
1

If you like running, go for it. I got better results from gaining weight with strength training than I did from becoming a cardio God. Def make sure you are doing something to develop social skills. Improv classes are good. Solo travel is amazing. Social hobbies are good also. Gotta get to a point where you aren't afraid to strike up a conversation with anyone
/r/seduction01/02/22 12:57 AM
1

It just did. My efforts to improve social skills started bearing fruit. I worked out, shaved my thinning hair. Before I turned 30 I had slept with 7 women. Most of which were girlfriends or girls I had dated briefly. I'm almost 34 now and have added 11 more to that total, including a few same night pulls, and some shockingly attractive women. IDK what it is man, just a good age for a guy if you've been working on yourself consistently.
/r/seduction31/01/22 10:47 PM
3

I'm with ya bro. Sexy women of all ages and yeah the mid 30s ladies really know what they want and aren't afraid to go for it.
/r/seduction30/01/22 04:02 AM
13

Nah you can still get mid to late 20s girls in your 30s. Heck I'd wager it's easier even. Lots of really sexy ladies still in their 30s, you might be surprised.
/r/seduction30/01/22 02:23 AM
35

30s for me. I spent my 20s trying to undo the damage my catholic teenage years had done to my ability to socialize with women
/r/seduction30/01/22 12:08 AM
1

It certainly can happen. I've pulled it off a handful of times. Usually yes drinking is a factor. Alot of it is being in the right time and place, it won't happen everytime you go out. Have fun, don't give off creepy vibes, and eventually you'll find a chick who's DTF and into you
/r/seduction30/01/22 12:05 AM
79

Eh idk. When I try to call women they often sound caught off guard if they pick up at all.
/r/seduction28/01/22 02:44 PM
-2

Jesus having a short exchange with someone in a coffee shop isn't "leading him on"
/r/seduction01/01/22 03:39 AM
3

Some girls dig hairy. I have a hairy chest. Never met a girl who didn't like stroking it. I'm 5'6". Yeah it sucks but there's still plenty of girls shorter than you and in a lot of cases it only matters that you're taller, not how much. For working out you need to lift heavy to get bigger. If you can't go to a gym then buy a bench and barbell set to use at home.
/r/seduction30/12/21 04:41 PM
1

Maybe I'm hard of hearing but usually I can't hear someone very well if I don't lean towards them a bit. Especially in a lout venue...I wouldn't be able to hear without leaning in.
/r/seduction19/11/21 04:40 PM
8

Nice dude! yeah sometimes you just gotta go for it and you might be surprised what happens. I've only managed a handful of same night pulls but they really do boost your confidence. You're the shit bro, keep it up and sooner or later you'll find a kick ass lady who wants to stick around for a while.
/r/seduction02/11/21 03:52 AM
66

Don't do this. Just say no problem and walk away
/r/seduction18/10/21 02:31 AM
1

True confidence comes from experience. Honestly though I think she may have been talking about your dancing and giving you a little shit test. You probably could have responded better but a relatively neutral non reactive agreement with her isn't the worst response.
/r/seduction19/09/21 05:22 PM
0

Honestly 5 inches is about average. Best course is to stop caring about your dick size. You can't do anything about it and feeling shitty about it isn't helping you. Just keep telling yourself it doesn't matter until you believe it. Because it really actually doesn't matter.
/r/seduction14/09/21 07:09 PM
1

Unfortunately no. I would have been down but we ended up just being tight office buddies.
/r/seduction27/08/21 11:22 PM
2

I'm 5'6" and 130 ish. realistically I think I could hit 160 within a year or two if I really keep at it. I don't think I'll ever be turning heads because I'm still pretty short but I can't do anything about that.
/r/seduction27/08/21 04:43 PM
9

I went out for drinks with my HR person and she showed me pictures of her boob job. YMMV.
/r/seduction27/08/21 04:41 PM
3

Never approach from behind. I tend to think the "shitting where you work" advice is a little over emphasized. You have to take things a little slower but it's certainly possible to form a relationship with a coworker. Don't blame masks. The way a person looks shouldn't affect how you interact with them
/r/seduction27/08/21 04:39 PM
1

Ive been eating and lifting 3 times a week for a year now. I'm making slow progress. I'm one of those skinny short guys with an insane metabolism and have trouble putting on weight If you don't mind, what's your current height / weight?
/r/seduction27/08/21 04:09 PM
7

So it's easy to say have sex with ten women at once but I have no idea how to pull that off.
/r/seduction27/08/21 08:38 AM
3

Yep. Hung a Santa hat off my dick once. Very well received photo
/r/seduction26/08/21 05:48 AM
1

Less is more with sexy photos for guys. Let her see a bulge or hang a hat on your boner or something. Or put an emoji over it. Whatever. Just tease them with the photos. Probly good rule to just never send an actual dick pic
/r/seduction26/08/21 05:47 AM
1

Maybe being circumcised but who knows
/r/seduction20/08/21 08:46 PM
3

Absolute fastest was a random girl I met while waiting for a cab in Chicago. She hopped in after a few minutes of talking, and after a few more minutes making out on the rooftop, we went and banged. We both were pretty drunk. Maybe an hour or two tops for the whole thing. Another time I said hello to a group of girls having drinks on a sidewalk patio. Rode in a fire truck with them to a drag cabaret, ended up making out with one after and proposed we go to my place. She obliged. This was more li…
/r/seduction20/08/21 08:06 PM
1

Quite the opposite. I was struggling to come. It's not a better problem haha
/r/seduction20/08/21 07:47 PM
1

Man I couldn't get off the first like...2 or 3 times i had sex. Never understood how people came quick the first time.
/r/seduction20/08/21 01:42 PM
1

No. Tell her after if you like but she doesn't need to know that before.
/r/seduction19/08/21 02:45 PM
74

How did you manage to set up a FWB without ever having sex? Did you just like......ask them?
/r/seduction19/08/21 02:43 PM
3

Eh. I've been "working on myself" for years and I still can't rely on women to approach me. Idk what I'm missing. I see other guys around me behaving very similar getting results but I'm struggling.
/r/seduction17/08/21 06:33 AM
1

I always find these threads about women having approach anxiety kind of humorous. Men are expected to make the first move so much that when a woman wants to they just don't know what to do. Honestly, just go say hello to him. Dudes are approached so rarely that he's likely to be flattered and receptive to talking with you. "Hey Ive seen you here a few times and wanted to introduce myself. I'm OP".
/r/seduction13/08/21 06:38 PM
1

keep in mind some dudes just aren't super into it and that doesn't mean something is wrong with you. I love the idea of oral and enjoy getting it....but I've never been able to orgasm from it and get much more pleasure from vaginal penetration.
/r/seduction13/08/21 06:28 PM
2

You had people hunt you down and break your arms?
/r/seduction13/08/21 01:55 PM
6

I agree with the notion that asking before escalating is generally a losing proposition. But I wouldn't call this experience a failure. He made a genuine connection with a girl. It happened to not be great logistics for more physical encounter but that's sometimes what happens and there's nothing wrong at all with connecting in a less sexual way. Fucking women isn't the only option.
/r/seduction05/08/21 05:08 AM
10

I mean. I've never explicitly asked to kiss a girl. Or have sex with them. Personally I think it kills the vibe.... Enthusiastic body language is a green light to escalate. Stop the second they look or verbally express discomfort.
/r/seduction05/08/21 05:04 AM
1

Ok. On the one hand you said give them a chance and on the other you said they're hard to date....
/r/seduction27/07/21 02:14 PM
0

Yes I'm a white guy and I traveled in southeast Asia for a couple months. I did match alot with locals on Tinder but never really pursued dates with any of them....i was moving too quickly to really set anything up. I'm not opposed to dating asian people, but it also seems like the ones here aren't quite so awestruck by white dudes since they're surrounded by them.
/r/seduction27/07/21 05:37 AM
4

Yeah I'm with ya here. Doesn't seem to matter much what I'm looking for. The girls are looking for taller not bald dudes.
/r/seduction27/07/21 03:14 AM
0

For whatever reason when I try this girls will think I'm being an asshole if they don't match what I'm looking for, and they'll think I'm too eager if they do match. If they're not interested it seems qualifying won't change that
/r/seduction27/07/21 03:12 AM
2

Pretty normal for a first time. I don't think I got off until the third time I had sex. Also porn and being circumcised make you less sensitive. Just try to relax and get comfortable and your body will figure it out
/r/seduction15/07/21 09:00 PM
9

Good job but honestly sounds like it's not a real good lead. Getting numbers is easy. Getting investments is hard
/r/seduction08/05/21 07:57 AM
1

Wait I don't understand. You had an opportunity to have sex with a girl you're crushing on and you didn't? Why? I mean if you don't want it then don't do it, but what are you "saving yourself" for? You're in your sexual prime now. I'd say get it on with whoever you want to get it on with.
/r/seduction08/05/21 07:48 AM
3

I'm 5050 on texting before the date. Sometimes less is more but I've also had flakes from saying nothing until confirming date logistics the morning of.
/r/seduction05/05/21 12:10 AM
2

Good work my man. I would caution that it still sounds like you're very focused on one woman even though you are doing a good job not making her your raison d'etre. She's probably not posting stories just hoping to grab your attention. It is a good sign that she's interacting with your stories. Keep building yourself up but also, make an effort to meet some other women.
/r/seduction15/04/21 03:01 PM
7

Love that you chose 40k as an example. I haven't played in years but it's something I remember fondly and certainly might get back into it at some point. I am a computer gamer and realized I spoke about it in a validation seeking way on a date when the girl said something like " there's nothing wrong with gaming" I know that of course but I need to work on how I present that part of my identity to people
/r/seduction14/04/21 02:03 PM
3

Yeah it matters for long term compatibly. Still doesn't mean much for attraction. What do mean by "kept" woman?
/r/seduction13/04/21 10:48 PM
25

Not sure I agree totally with first point on success. The most successful period of time for me with women was when I was unemployed, traveling, and very much had no idea what I wanted to do next professionally. Immediately before this I was making good money and couldn't attract women to save my life. Yeah money helps you do fun stuff and have nice things but it has very little impact on how women perceive you
/r/seduction13/04/21 01:53 PM
2

First off. It's hard to convey tone here so I apologize if you feel like I'm shaming you. Honestly that's not the intent. I don't know how else to emphasize without CAPS but I promise I'm not yelling at you. Like you said, everyone has preferences, and like I said, Whatever gets your rocks off. Indeed the Dutch are famed for being tall. I met some lovely (and huge lol) Danes on a ski trip in France. However, you're still over estimating an average Dutch guy's height. I looked it up. It about 182…
/r/seduction11/03/21 02:27 PM
1

I don't know where you're from ... but where I'm from an "average" height dude is about 175 cm. If 172 is your cutoff....you're barely willing to go a few cms below average. If that's what gets your rocks off more power to ya, but maybe you actually DO care about a guys height more than you thought. I happen to be about 172 cm, so yeah girls like you are exactly the reason I don't share my height unless asked. Even girls who say they're cool with short dudes usually don't actually mean it when t…
/r/seduction11/03/21 03:41 AM
4

if someone is (IMO) too many cms shorter than me then it’s just really not going to happen. For this reason I usually ask this pretty quick though Says the girl who started this thread by saying short dudes are not an instant turn off. It's the girls in this scenario who are wasting their time. She can either keep her commitment like a decent human being and see why I'm an awesome guy or she can go home and pout about her unrealistic preconceived expectations about me. I'm not going to weed myse…
/r/seduction11/03/21 01:57 AM
2

Insecure or otherwise it's not good strategy. I have no rapport with rando girls on dating apps so listing my height when I'm a few inches below average is an easy "swipe left" criteria. This is marketing 101. You don't start with the flaws and shortcomings of your product...you lead with your strengths.
/r/seduction10/03/21 11:19 PM
2

Usually girls like this have problems with anxiety and insecurity and shit. They don't like that I don't physically make them feel small and feminine. On the one hand I understand but on the other....grow the fuck up.
/r/seduction10/03/21 06:20 PM
4

I never mention my height unless explicitly asked. Its a form of qualifying myself for her...and sounds insecure. If that girl has a problem with it when we meet...well that's her problem.
/r/seduction10/03/21 06:17 PM
30

Can't speak for all guys or gals, but I've had girls say to my face "why didn't you tell me you were shorter than me? this date is a waste of time" before leaving. So yeah....dating as a short guy can be tough even with the best of mindsets.
/r/seduction06/03/21 01:10 PM
2

Nothing unrelated at all with talking to that dude. The more people you approach the less weird it feels to approach a girl you're attracted to. She's just another person to say hello to.
/r/seduction04/03/21 04:20 AM
2

That's a good attitude. Onward and upward. If its a struggle to get a response out of the girls you know, go find some new people.
/r/seduction24/11/20 05:14 PM
7

All I can say is I know girls watch my stories and that they're usually receptive to me when I chat them up. That said I'm in a 5 month dry spell so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. I see stories as a way for me to demonstrate my lifestyle to people without having to send them photos directly all the time...and for that it works well. Now just to translate that into more dates....
/r/seduction24/11/20 03:54 AM
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It won't neccessarily drive them away if they're into that stuff...but you need to find a way to inject some masculine energy to your stories. Pics / videos of you doing fun stuff with people / girls.
/r/seduction24/11/20 03:45 AM
1

What if like. They do these things but then also occasionally come over for a date?
/r/seduction24/11/20 03:43 AM
3

Ok bro. Not useful advice because I have had an extremely hard time finding that line where I'm being natural with showing intent and completely creeping girls out and shutting them down completely. It's not as simple as "just show a little intent" for everyone.
/r/seduction06/11/20 10:15 PM
1

First off - this is the Suicide Prevention hotline. Talk to them if you're feeling suicidal. They can help you feel better. 800-273-8255 I certainly understand how it can feel to pour yourself into a skill and feel like you aren't progressing. I have studied game on and off for years with little to show for it. I saw the most improvement when I threw myself into 6 months of solo travel. I had to make new friends every couple of days and it really made me a master of approaching and breaking ice …
/r/seduction06/11/20 01:35 AM
6

"just be natural and show intent" is simultaneously the most accurate and most useless advice you can give. Some guys like me just literally didn't know what that looked like or how to embody that. I had a coach for about a year. There were times when I felt like it was a waste of time and money but looking back I have made good progress in game from where I started and have made big changes in my life that likely would have never happened without having someone in my corner to talk to and help …
/r/seduction06/11/20 01:27 AM
2

Good job man! Seriously its great that you are making progress. Things to keep in mind for the future: next time though just kiss her, don't ask. Try not to let her dictate too much of the date either (ie the sitting outside bit). The more you take the lead the better things will go for you. In general just get out and be social with as many people as possible in all kinds of situations. Have fun but pay attention to how people respond to what you do/say and what others do/say. Do more of what y…
/r/seduction25/08/20 08:27 AM
2

General Thoughts: I thought pussy was loose too my first time. Just how it is man, not as as tight as your hands Don't pat yourself on the back too much....literally a gross fat woman left awkwardly after sex and doesn't want to fuck you again. If you wanna get off the porn and with a woman you actually like you need to become a better version of yourself.
/r/seduction12/08/20 05:48 AM
2

Vaginas definitely have a distinctive scent. Stronger in some girls than others, and varies with hygiene. Becomes an acquired taste.
/r/seduction12/08/20 05:44 AM
6

Places to find friends 1. Seminars 2. Meetups 3. Facebook Groups 4. Travel How to make friends 1. Introuduction 2. Share vulnerability 3. Show genuine interest 4. Pursuit
/r/seduction16/11/17 11:57 PM
2

Virginity is overrated. If you like her go for it. Dont do it just so you can say youre not a virgin anymore.
/r/seduction12/06/17 01:02 PM
14

5'9"? Youre tall. Try 5'6"
/r/seduction25/05/17 03:21 AM
1

100% agree. Joining clubs and doing activities is an excellent way to interact with people and have built in common ground Approaching strangers always feels forced to me no matter how many times I do it. 3 months of playing on recreational soccer teams has gotten me more quality contacts than 9 months of cold approaches. Soccer's more fun and keeps me in decent shape to boot.
/r/seduction21/03/17 10:31 PM
1

I find sending an ice breaker text within a few hours works well. Not a conversation, just a "hey heres my number nice meeting you" type of message. Then in a then in another day or two send a funny picture or tell a funny story and chat a bit maybe try to set up a date.
/r/seduction11/12/16 09:49 PM
2

Why?
/r/seduction20/01/16 08:12 PM
1

You should only be using texts/phone calls as tools to get her to meet you in person. So just ask her out. As for the date, pick an activity you can do together. Even better if it's an activity you are good at and can teach her. Ice skating. Day hiking. Trap shooting. Steer clear of movies.
/r/seduction04/11/13 04:20 AM
3

I didn't say "take up palm reading". Its all a big joke and I make it quite obvious that I'm 100% making shit up.
/r/seduction04/11/13 01:21 AM
6

No need to apologize. If you are so uncomfortable with me making a joke about your sexuality, I'm probably not going to be interested anyway.
/r/seduction04/11/13 12:40 AM
2

Was he opening with this? I would definitely not recommend opening with this. It would come off as scripted, and gimmicky. It's also not gonna be the one thing that "gets the girl". You want to build a little rapport first, and use this as a litmus test of whether she has interest in you. The girls who don't will think its dumb. Tell them they are no fun and move on. Done correctly this will communicate your interest subtly, and give her an opportunity to do the same. Girls love that shit.
/r/seduction04/11/13 12:39 AM
2

Honestly you don't need a crash course. "legitimate" palm reading is 100% BS already. Just make up some fortunes and have fun with it.
/r/seduction04/11/13 12:00 AM
2

Haha well yeah I don't say I'm full time palm reader. I introduce it as more of a hobby. I don't know the first thing about "actual" palm reading. I just make some stuff up and have some fun with it.
/r/seduction03/11/13 11:58 PM
1

No its not a creeper thing. I will be in a conversation and for whatever reason we both are quiet for a few moments and just looking at each others faces. They will break the silence with something. The "what" is said with a smile and in a "what are you up to?" kind of way. The same exact kind of situation has happened when I'm being intimate in the bedroom. We'll be looking at each other and they suddenly break the silence with "what are you looking at?" or "what are you thinking" or something.
/r/seduction27/10/13 02:32 AM
1

I mean should I have a preconceived goal for the type of relationship I am shooting for with a girl before/during the first encounter? I feel like this would restrict the scope of the interaction too much.
/r/seduction27/10/13 01:13 AM
2

Perfect!! I like this. I frequently have trouble when asked directly about my feelings or intentions as they often aren't even clear to myself. Related question if you would be so kind as to respond: sometimes when I am making some extended eye contact with a girl they will just kind of smile and say "what?" What kind of response works here? Last night I made a compliment about her smile in response to this but it didn't work out that well. She asked "you think you are the only guy who has ever …
/r/seduction27/10/13 01:07 AM
2

Well I would have. If I had an answer. As I said I didn't really have any specific intentions in mind. I was just making conversation and enjoying the interaction. Is it a problem that I don't have an intention? Do I need a goal for every woman I meet before I even get to know her a little bit?
/r/seduction27/10/13 12:32 AM
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