how often does outergame fail for you?

OpinionThink481 · 2025-11-07T00:41:50+00:00

1 - People who say they do everything right, lack critical analysis and tend to have, more often than not, a self-serving bias.

More often than not they are not doing everything right even if they think they do, dismissing certain errors as if they are not a big deal, or not even noticing those little things that make all the difference.

2 - Even if you objectively did everything right, you need to understand that just like with everything else in life, success is dependent not just on your actions, but on external circumstances that have nothing to do with you.

She could have a bad day, a boyfriend, be stressed, be in a rush, not be in the mood, have a cognitive dissonance, have different preferences on men, be lesbians, be asexual, be fed up with guys, her not connecting with you, have different goals and values than you,... etc

So you never have full control over the outcome, you have at best 50% control if you do everything right. And this is the same for everything else that you do in life, from having a successful business, to driving a car without crashing, the result is never fully in your control 100%.

If you don't die in a car accident when you drive a car, you might tell yourself it's because you were so good at driving, and to some extent yeah, but to another extent it's because the other drivers didn't screw you up by driving recklessly or doing something unpredictable.

So, part of it was your control, part of it was the other drivers and the circumstances of the road being favorable to you.

Seduction is about maximizing your chances and increasing your success not about convincing every girl in the entire world to sleep with you.

ImpossibleBritches · 2025-11-06T22:15:19+00:00

Stop overthinking and go talk to girls.

Rejection happens all the time on cold approach.

The more you do, the better you get and the rejection rate falls.

Now go out and meet women. Now.

Accomplished_Egg_928 · 2025-11-07T21:17:10+00:00

You need to build emotional connection. When speaking to girls, treat them like anyone else (a normal person), build comfort and flirt a bit then see if they flirt back. If they don't then move on and don't waste any time. If they do flirt back then that's your green light to continue to run game.

Sometimes when you move on from them and they see you having fun with other girls, they may approach you and re-engage.

Also be authentic, women can smell it when a guy is trying to be someone they are not. They can also sense if your looking for a positive outcome. Don't have an outcome other than having fun.

Not every girl is going to be attracted to you. If a girl is into tall Chad's, then no matter what you do, you will never be their first option (or an option at all).

Another tip, if they are into you, don't spend too long around them, tell them to come find you or meet you somewhere near by a little while later. Then when they leave the bar/club to grab a taxi, they are actually meeting you, but nobody else knows but you and her, there by protecting her image.

BurnItDownSR · 2025-11-07T01:05:23+00:00

If you think outer game is only push pull, cold reads, and DHV routines then its not working for you simply because you're doing it wrong.

This sounds like a post from someone who's only understanding of seduction comes from reading The Game.

Charge36 · 2025-11-07T01:33:39+00:00

Outer game comes from inner game and confidence comes from experience.

We give names to certain social techniques that confident and socially adept people use, but these aren't just a list of things to do and if you check them all off then the girl will like you.

They are tools in your social toolbox, and if you don't know how and when to use them they aren't going to be effective. Even if you do everything perfectly there's plenty of reasons why a girl still won't be interested. Maybe she doesn't like bald guys. Or short guys. Or tattooed guys.

All you can really do is keep gaining experience to build true confidence and increase your odds. You will never be able to 100% seduce any woman you encounter and that's an unrealistic goal

miyass_miyass · 2025-11-07T05:40:04+00:00

Extremely often. You’re always going to get rejected more often than not no matter how good you get.

Royal-Heron-11 · 2025-11-10T20:15:24+00:00

You're trying to approach women like they're a fucking recipe for banana bread. Stop reading stupid pickup culture bullshit. Stop using dumbass pick up game language and tactics.

You're failing because you're pretending to be a person you aren't and she picks up in it every time. It is so obvious to a woman when you're following a script and it's also pathetic to them once they realize it.

If all you care about is getting random hookups? Do whatever you want that you think helps. But if you care about finding an actual relationship? This shit is never going to work for you.

ImpossibleWaiting · 2025-11-06T22:16:26+00:00

It's not a secret that PUAs have the most rejection out of all categories of men. Sometimes nothing will work. The idea is to find someone who's at least okay with your presence, or better yet someone's who's giving out IOIs.

Title	how often does outergame fail for you?
Author	barlowaplesand
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Comments	16
Date	November 6, 2025 10:11 PM UTC (8 months ago)
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