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This is something that comes up so often here. And its hard for a lot of people to understand, but it does come down to mindset. Physical appearance is a lot more malleable than some people realize if you put the work in. You have to think about it and learn though. Its not a straight path from A to Z.
/r/seduction05/12/19 07:32 PM
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Gym. Clothes. Hair. Skin products. Makeup. Perfume. Posture. Shit like that
/r/seduction30/11/19 06:17 PM
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This is known to be less effective by an order of magnitude.
/r/seduction30/11/19 07:16 AM
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When I was younger, I would shut up for like 90% of the date and get the girl talking about her passions by asking open ended questions. I did it naturally on instinct. It worked really well. This does NOT work with pickup lol Definitely the open ended statement thing works way better.
/r/seduction30/11/19 06:38 AM
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Personally, I’d delete Netflix. But I do shit like that. I also have a safe that I put my phone in. It has a timer on it, and I can’t get my phone out until the timer goes off.
/r/seduction30/11/19 02:58 AM
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I figure with attractive women, sometimes it’s not even that they hold an especially high value of themselves over other people. A lot of times, for the ones that are genuine people, which is probably most of them, it’s just that they can’t physically talk to every guy that hits in them. It’s way to exhausting and impossible. They either have to throw up these shields or not leave the house. As for this unnattractive girl, I feel you on the guilt and your compassion for her. But also, she’s got …
/r/seduction30/11/19 02:48 AM
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Ha ha, I should probably read that book again then. What don’t you agree with? Just the stuff about waiting bunch of days to call? Or some more fundamental stuff?
/r/seduction30/11/19 02:33 AM
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I’ve never been passed around. But one of my plates does know about all the other ones. I was also in an open relationship for a bit and she knew about all the other girls. The manwhore guy, that sounds like it’s his style of game. I have a friend like that. He’ll work social circles and get a reputation as a cool guy and good fuck. But I’d like to have the choice. I don’t want everyone in my social media knowing I got plates. And some of these girls I’m feeling out to see if I want to get serio…
/r/seduction30/11/19 01:16 AM
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As a general rule, with the right frame most things will work. This guy is betraying his lack of experience saying it will “100% not work”. Fear driven dudes who don’t fuck say shit like that.
/r/seduction30/11/19 01:03 AM
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This falls on a bell curve. If you want to have a good relationship with a woman, she needs to feel special and be happy. I’m used to being chased by the women I date and I’m used to women always wanting a relationship with me. There’s been only two times in my life when I met a woman that I actually wanted a relationship with. And both times I said I was going to do it differently with her and treat her right. And both times it backfired and I lost the girl because I did too much of a 180. Most…
/r/seduction29/11/19 10:59 PM
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I’ll check it out. I see what you’re saying, but I’m of two minds about it. Maybe I should detach more. But on the other hand I’m not Hank Mooney. I relate to women in my own way. And it’s not really congruent with being OK with my plates seeing each other.
/r/seduction29/11/19 08:36 PM
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I worded it that way because it’s more compelling. However the question is about how to handle social media in general. What are these guys doing if they have multiple plates? How are they dealing with these privacy issues?
/r/seduction29/11/19 06:42 PM
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Are you approaching direct or indirect?
/r/seduction29/11/19 05:54 PM
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I’d talk to her directly about it.
/r/askTRP29/11/19 05:52 PM
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I don’t know who Hank Moody is. I do know that I want to keep fucking my plates. And I don’t want one of my plates to see a picture of me with a different one.
/r/seduction29/11/19 05:48 PM
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I’m starting to notice some patterns with people on here. People who say shit like “This won’t work in ...” are usually KJs who don’t get laid much. Also, people who say things are “creepy” or “cringe” are usually also people who are not having success.
/r/seduction29/11/19 05:33 PM
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Took me 80 or so before I even got my first date. I thought I’d at least get one date in 20 LOL
/r/seduction29/11/19 05:30 PM
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Downvotes are either incels or FDS. I’m going with Incels.
/r/seduction29/11/19 05:29 PM
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Fucker is $25 just for the kindle version. I’ll Probably get it anyway.
/r/seduction29/11/19 05:28 PM
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I’m concerned about: My other current plates Future iterations of this same basic problem.
/r/seduction29/11/19 05:16 PM
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I don’t even know where that is on Instagram. I thought that was a Facebook thing?
/r/seduction29/11/19 05:07 PM
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This is in iteration of a question that gets asked on here very very frequently. The answer is that you need to work at this and learn the skill. In order to do that you will need to fail out it very many times. There are also some basic truths that you’ll have to learn. One of them is that people who talk to a lot of people and who make a lot of connections. And men who fuck a lot of women. All of these people very frequently make mistakes in their conversations and look stupid and say embarras…
/r/seduction29/11/19 05:06 PM
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What if she had posted it?
/r/seduction29/11/19 05:03 PM
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I’m pretty sure I’m tagged in the picture
/r/seduction29/11/19 04:58 PM
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Honestly man it’s refreshing to see this viewpoint. I mean it’s just a good sales pipeline for god sake’s. I think the reason men don’t like to do it is because of their pride. They say all this bullshit about not being needy and being alpha and all that shit. But being alpha is doing whatever the fuck you want. It just makes sense to take five seconds to text someone every three days. Especially if you have like 15 girls that you’re working on. Take five minutes and text each one of them every …
/r/seduction29/11/19 02:53 AM
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Almost everyone on here says not to do this, but I’m more with you. Why not hit her up every few days? It’s good execution. Putting pride aside and focusing on the outcome. If she’s not interested it doesn’t matter if you look desperate. If she is interested, you’ll eventually text her when she’s in the mood.
/r/seduction29/11/19 02:37 AM
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I saw a girl at the gym the other day who was stark bald. She was also very hot. In my opinion, if you’re going to do bald. Do completely bald, like smooth scalp. Other short haircuts look masculine. But a smooth scalp looks feminine on a woman. Perhaps also make an extra effort to dress feminine. So you look like an artist or model and not a feminazi.
/r/seduction29/11/19 02:32 AM
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Unless you got stuff growing on your face, this is more of an inner game issue. Not just confidence though. But drive and attitude.
/r/seduction29/11/19 12:12 AM
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Read “No More Mr. Nice Guy” - Robert Glover
/r/seduction28/11/19 11:50 PM
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Get some lube, put in on your fingers and play with her pussy. I prefer Swiss Navy brand. Silicone based usually but their water based is good too.
/r/seduction28/11/19 11:49 PM
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Great report! How many times did you see her after that? Or are you still seeing her now?
/r/seduction28/11/19 11:47 PM
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Inner game can be hard. The first step is probably to at least catch yourself when you are saying and thinking negative things. For those of us who’ve been through this, we can look back at your last few comments and see what your problem is. Its really obvious in how you write out your thoughts.
/r/seduction28/11/19 11:07 PM
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This is a very destructive behavior. It’s a sum-negative for everyone.
/r/seduction28/11/19 09:35 PM
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Were you jacked and still felt unattractive?
/r/seduction28/11/19 09:31 PM
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If the girls are actually making an effort to come out with you, you’re not getting rejected because they have too many options. The reason for this is because they only have so much effort to expend on going out on dates. If they went out on a date with you and didn’t want to go out on a second date, then they are disappointed too because now they have to go on a first date with someone else. I don’t know what you are doing wrong, It could just be that you’re having a unlucky streak. But it als…
/r/seduction28/11/19 07:41 PM
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Do you work out?
/r/seduction28/11/19 07:29 PM
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I actually went to a hypnotist to help with my social anxiety. It helped. I think what helped more though was reading and understanding more about what inner game really is. Most of the guys on here have little success because of really bad inner game. But when you notice a guy is getting lays, look at how he thinks and talks. You'll notice he thinks differently. One of the key concepts is you need to keep a positive mindset. Doesn't mean you have to trick yourself all the time, but you can't be…
/r/seduction28/11/19 07:28 PM
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I'm good looking in my own right I suppose. I have dark, hard features. Most of the time I have resting bitch face. I'm also 5'8" and have a slender build. Its very difficult for me to put on muscle. Although I have been bulking up lately due to very hard workouts, and some supplementation. I worked very hard for what I've gotten. Last year I took a lot of pictures and paid money to a service called Photofeeler.com to rate my pictures. I was consistently in the 60% range when rated by women unde…
/r/seduction28/11/19 07:25 PM
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100 easy if you find a lot of women attractive. I've been fucking a lot more attractive women lately, after doing a lot of work on myself. But when I was younger, I fucked a lot of chunky and fat women. Especially after getting out of a relationship, I'd start with a fatty and then work my way up the ladder. This is a good thing to do in a lot of ways because it gives you experience and confidence and women. A lot of guys I know who are more "incel-ish" only want to bang really hot women. I thin…
/r/seduction28/11/19 07:19 PM
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The apps have been distracted me a lot lately. I’m thinking about deleting them as well because I end up on all these dates with women who generally are not as hot as the women I would meet doing day game. If you want more dates from Hinge, just ask them out in the first two screens of texting. I’m going to assume you’re trying to build rapport over text before you ask them out. Don’t do that, it’s a huge waste of time. Instead ask them out on coffee dates or dates in the park. Preferably places…
/r/seduction28/11/19 07:07 PM
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A friend of mine gets hit on a lot. It’s because she makes a lot of eye contact.
/r/seduction28/11/19 06:54 PM
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I do mainly direct because it’s so much simpler. I’ll just say that I think they’re beautiful I want to say hi. Then they’ll say something and I asked her name and go from there. You don’t have to ask them out in the same sentence that you open. Direct is a great way to start out learning game. Because it simplifies the whole process. You know exactly what you’re going to say when you approach and you don’t have to think something up. Having to think something up give your mind a great opportuni…
/r/seduction28/11/19 06:31 AM
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I think he’ll do just fine dating non-niche girls. He doesn’t need to have the same pop culture interests as them.
/r/seduction28/11/19 06:28 AM
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I think you should just get the girls talking about this shit. If you don’t know anything about what she’s talking about, just keep her talking about it. After a while, you will know a lot about this stuff from all the women you talk to. I don’t think you should try to learn about it externally. That’s a waste of time and completely unnecessary. It’s also a needy behavior. Which will put you in a bad mindset.
/r/seduction28/11/19 06:27 AM
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You think your problem is your Aspergers. Aspergers is a challenge you have. Other guys are short, old, or a less desirable ethnicity. Everyone’s got their challenges. Your problem is your attitude. People with challenges such as aspbergers or dyslexia Often get polarized in life. For example Richard Branson has dyslexia. These challenges sometimes spur people to great success, Or a beat people down mentally. Right now you’re in beat down mode. You got to change your attitude. You got to work. Y…
/r/seduction28/11/19 06:13 AM
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There’s a really good post on here from a guy with Aspergers. Your success will have less to do with your Aspergers And more to do with your grit. I always say this about Temple Grandon. The most interesting thing about her isn’t her autism or her animal insight, it’s her grit. That woman is a fucking juggernaut. Here’s a link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/d95y2m/nothing_is_impossible_overcoming_aspergers_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/seduction28/11/19 06:08 AM
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Great answer!
/r/seduction28/11/19 06:02 AM
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Interesting question. LTR is my end game. I want to get married to an amazing woman and have a family. There’s probably a few reasons why I’ve fucked so many women. The main reason is probably just that I really wanted to. I have a high sex drive and it was higher when I was younger. I remember being amazed at how little effort my friends would put into getting laid. They’d be whining that they never received messages back on online dating. Meanwhile, I’d have just messaged 50 women on OK Cupid.…
/r/seduction28/11/19 05:57 AM
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I’m 38 now. 100 was maybe 5-7 years ago. I spent about 10 years in relationships. Once I get going I start having sex with a lot of girls. This girl will make #4 on the current rotation.
/r/seduction28/11/19 04:18 AM
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Yeah man, that’s exactly it! Girl got game lol
/r/seduction27/11/19 10:24 PM
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Oh man, I just remembered this other story I have to tell you. The most high value guy I know is this rich guy who is also very kind and compassionate. And he looks like a fucking avenger, like he could kick Thor’s ass. He’s gone to the gym practically every day since he was 15. His athletic ability is unreal. Crazy shit happens to him all the time. For example, last summer he went to all these boat parties because he had a ton of rich friends. During this time he fucked three girls every day. T…
/r/seduction27/11/19 09:40 PM
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Yeah, this has happened to me a couple times. One girl in particular, last year especially sticks out in my mind. I remember she kissed me passionately in my apartment on the first date. And I was like oh wow I’ve found a really great girl here. And then we went out 7 MORE TIMES without fucking. I fucked over 100 girls and that’s by far the longest I’ve waited for sex other than my first girlfriend when I lost my virginity. When we finally had sex it was really good. And I was all amped up. I re…
/r/seduction27/11/19 09:20 PM
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It sounds like you need to take more risks and have fun with it. It’s probably getting dull because you’re doing the same thing over and over trying to protect your self from the pain of rejection. Try to loosen up and do some crazy shit and make some memories. If it’s getting dollar monotonous, you’re doing it wrong. You should be getting into all kinds of weird situations and very many times the day should end in unexpected ways.
/r/seduction27/11/19 09:09 PM
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I don’t like the first two of your rules. They serve to prevent you from being rejected more often. But they’re also holding you back. A rule of thumb in this game is that the more you put yourself in situations where you’ll get rejected, the more you succeed. You are right that the first two rules are more challenging situations. But you should not be avoiding them. I hit on women all the time with headphones in because most people have headphones in when they’re walking around during the day. …
/r/seduction27/11/19 09:03 PM
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I used to think that. But it’s good forplay. Something to do with how our mind’s attracting mechanisms are triggered. In fact, I think it would work better on more high value guys. To a point obviously.... And also assuming that she is high value. Like if the dude is trying to plate her and he’s got a few other plates just like her, he’ll probably just next when he sees any resistance. But if he’s excited about her, I think playing hard to get would amp up his excitement. I think it would keep h…
/r/seduction27/11/19 08:56 PM
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This is like the reverse problem when men ask women for dating advice and the women give bad advice because they say what they think they want but not what they actually respond to. I think most of us men would go nuts over a woman they liked who was playing hard to get. I mean, obviously you could take it too far. To the point where neither one of you have any fun. But it sounds like that’s not what you’re doing. If it’s working for you, which it sounds like it is, you should probably keep doin…
/r/seduction27/11/19 06:11 PM
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My guess would be it’s probably a drop in testosterone for some reason. Testosterone is thought of as a male hormone but it’s also an important hormone and women and it drives this sex drive. Could also be caused by an imbalance in estrogen or another hormone now. You can get your blood checked for like 75 bucks even if you don’t have insurance. I look for something called up female hormone panel something like that. Also, do you guys use lube? Requiring a woman to always produce her own natural…
/r/seduction26/11/19 08:39 PM
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I feel you on not wanting to convert him. There are so many guys on here with horrible attitudes and horrible mind sets. It’s so sad to see. And they are so angry. It’s almost impossible to get through to them. Whenever anyone tries to explain to them how to improve their mindset, they just lash out.
/r/seduction26/11/19 08:28 PM
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I read his post a little differently. It sounds like he’s a beginner and he needs a metric other than how many women he’s fucked. Because he’s not quite there yet. For me, it was how many dates I got. Numbers are OK, but the problem is that a lot of times women will give you the number just because there’s no reason not to. It’s a lot less awkward and they can just block you later. You should also just have a feeling for it. Like how do your interactions feel? Do the women seem to be having fun …
/r/seduction26/11/19 07:54 PM
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This makes me think of that poor bastard in the UK who got convicted of sexual assault for touching some girl on the arm. In both these cases, the men seemed to be on the spectrum. I guess we all have our own challenges. Mine has always been the opposite. I'm too sensitive to other people's emotions. Seeing a negative micro-expression used to be an actual traumatic experience for me. And thats what kept me from pickup. The raw pain and trauma of it. For that reason, this kind of thing is extreme…
/r/seduction26/11/19 06:49 PM
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I read through most of the posts, I actually didn’t get “Don’t do college campuses” from it. He actually goes to that school (according to the girl he went in a date with) The common thread is that he’s making everyone uncomfortable. There seems to be two reasons for this: 1) He’s mildly autistic. Most of the time he approaches, he’s giving people a creepy vibe because of this. Then he just keeps talking to the people he approaches even when they’re uncomfortable. Probably because he doesn’t kno…
/r/seduction26/11/19 05:33 PM
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Man, I lived in the suburbs for so long, waste of my life. Didn’t realize what I was missing. If you ever come out to DC or I’m in your area we should wing together. I know a few other guys around here who are good too. Nice, cool guys who fuck hot girls.
/r/seduction25/11/19 11:52 PM
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I think you have a lot of other venues out in LA that are really good that I don’t have access to. Especially with the weather being more temperate.
/r/seduction25/11/19 11:33 PM
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That’s the paradox I see sometimes. Kind and compassionate men have a really hard time taking the “risks” because they are sensitive to everyone’s emotions. He should have already asked you out, but he’s probably held back by the risk of awkwardness if you say no. Or even if you say yes and then things don’t work out later. He sounds comfortable with himself and confident. I think a lot of succeeding in this game is being open to risks and accepting the risk of the pain if things don’t work out.…
/r/seduction25/11/19 11:18 PM
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It’s crazy the amount of women I’ve met online who are into salsa or tango but haven’t dated any men there. It seems like such an amazing foreplay, but then the community is so small, people don’t want to mess up things with their community.
/r/seduction25/11/19 08:15 PM
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Yeah man, I have an app that gives me notifications when people I follow post on Reddit. And you’re one of the people I follow. Every other post that you comment on is deleted it’s like WTF? You’ll say something interesting, and then I can’t read the original context. It’s really annoying.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:33 PM
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I have a standard thing that I say so I don’t have to think of something. Lately it’s been: “I think you’re beautiful and want to say hi.” For a while I used: “I’d be kicking myself if I didn’t say hi to you”
/r/seduction25/11/19 06:39 PM
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Five is nothing. You have a lot more work to do. You need to do at least a few hundred more approaches. And for a while most of them are not gonna go anywhere. You should be trying new things and changing things periodically. But you can’t expect good results so quickly. You need to be in this for the long-haul.
/r/seduction25/11/19 06:37 PM
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The Natural - Richard Laruina Models - Mark Manson How to attract and talk to women - Craig Beck
/r/seduction24/11/19 06:47 PM
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I know nothing about this specific situation. But as a general rule, a lot of game is a willingness to do things that are “inappropriate”.
/r/seduction24/11/19 06:44 PM
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It sounds like neither girl is good for you. I think it’s obvious that you should find a girl that you’re both attracted to and who is someone who you like.
/r/seduction24/11/19 06:42 PM
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It’s deeper than you’re even thinking. Dudes who fuck a lot of girls from pickup “mess up” A LOT. One of the marks of dudes who get really successful with this is that they “‘mess up”, get rejected and then quickly shake it off and forget about it. It circles back to your relationship with pain and fear. You’ll never get a to place where you will not mess up. The trick is getting to the place where you’re ok with messing up. Crawling is messing up and agonizing over it. Walking is messing up and…
/r/seduction24/11/19 06:29 PM
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It’s not really about them, it’s about you. That thought process is harmful because it’s not taking responsibility for our own shit. What I’m talking about his abstract. On a surface level, yes it would be great to get hit on by a hot woman. But the exercise of thinking about that and wishing for it is very harmful.
/r/seduction24/11/19 08:20 AM
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I feel you. Something that I don’t see talked about on here too much, but I think holds men like you back is your fundamental relationship with pain. And maybe also fear. In order to do this you will have to feel pain. And you’ll have to train yourself to do things that you find terrifying. People these days lives such comfortable lives, that our relationships to pain and fear are not what they naturally evolve to be. And in some ways it’s great because our lives are so much more comfortable. Bu…
/r/seduction24/11/19 08:18 AM
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I disagree with the attitude that women should take the initiative. I understand what you’re saying. But it’s a misunderstanding of gender roles. It’s a misunderstanding of what stimulates women sexually. It’s a misunderstanding of men’s challenges versus women’s challenges. Men and women are different. That doesn’t mean that one gender is lesser than the other or better than the other. But they’re different and different things are required of each one.
/r/seduction24/11/19 08:14 AM
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I want to try grocery store soon now that it’s getting cold. This summer I got a Onewheel electric skateboard. And I rode all over the city and game for women off of that. It worked really well.
/r/seduction24/11/19 08:12 AM
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This seems like such an obvious answer. Yes, of course you do. I mean, unless you can get hard again in the next 30 seconds. The caveat is that some women just don’t orgasm. Or they won’t very often. Or they won’t that time. So if you’ve been fucking them for a while and they haven’t come and they seem to be getting tired and not into it as much, then it’s time for you to come.
/r/seduction24/11/19 08:11 AM
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Actually, you’re not a coward. This is really normal. When dealing with approach anxiety, you often have to go out for a week or more and try to approach but fail. I think this is something the trips a lot of guys up. They feel like if they go out, they have to approach and if they don’t approach they made no progress. But in fact, the path to getting over approach anxiety starts with going out a bunch of times and trying to approach and failing. One thing you are doing wrong though, Is calling …
/r/seduction24/11/19 08:08 AM
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Normally I just reply to these questions with fuck no don’t listen to women. But I think this is great advice. And a great way to utilize women friends in learning pick up.
/r/seduction24/11/19 08:03 AM
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If you’re going out with really hot girls, your date to close ratio isn’t that bad. It also depends on where you meet them. I have sort of the opposite problem. It’s more difficult for me to get on the date with a hot woman. But if they decide To sleep with me, they almost always end up wanting a relationship. I’ve reflected on this, and I have a few theories as to why this is. One is I think when a hot woman does agree to go out with me, she is especially interested. This is because my game isn…
/r/seduction24/11/19 07:54 AM
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Sister will tell him not to approach. She won’t understand the math behind it and why it doesn’t matter if she likes to be approach or not. Some androgynous lesbians have mad game, But their shit is like way different than a straight guy. I’m not sure they’d be able to say anything useful.
/r/seduction24/11/19 07:47 AM
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It’s not Beta. It might mess up the FWB dynamic. But it’s not beta. Caring about a woman is not beta. This is where things can get confusing. There are a lot of rules that people talk about. About what is Beta and what is alpha. What isn’t discussed very much is that the rules are there to approximate beta and alpha. But Beta and alpha are mindsets. The rules are there as training wheels. To help you get into the alpha mindset and away from the better mindset. Following the rules is actually kin…
/r/askTRP23/11/19 11:53 PM
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The answer is probably not. I’ve been down this road before. I spent a lot of time cultivating attractive female friends in order to get their assistance. Most of the advice they gave me was not good. The best people to help with this are confident men who get a lot of women.
/r/seduction23/11/19 05:43 PM
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/r/seduction23/11/19 05:18 PM
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I read on a chat group a while back about a guy who was as gaming in Thailand I think it was. He said, for the opener, that the more aggressive, direct stuff didn’t work at all. But more like polite, nice guy stuff worked better for the opener. Like “excuse me, I’m so sorry to bother you but, <compliment>” He said it had to do with the culture and history of the country.
/r/seduction23/11/19 05:10 PM
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This is why taking pick up advice from women is a terrible idea.
/r/seduction23/11/19 01:51 AM
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It’s going to take hard work. And pain. And fear. This is the best explanation I’ve seen of how to do it: This is the best method for getting over approach anxiety that I’ve ever seen: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/cutote/how_did_you_guys_get_over_approach_anxiety_i/exytcvr/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/seduction22/11/19 09:45 PM
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I think the difference is that you have a limited amount of sales prospects and so you don’t wanna blow it with any of them if you can avoid it. But with cold approach, you kind of just need to go out and do it because there’s like a jillion targets if you go to the right places. Your problem is probably not that you need to practice for 15 to 30 minutes a week. If you’re looking for this, your problem is probably approach anxiety. Basically everyone’s problem LOL
/r/seduction22/11/19 09:36 PM
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Dude, that would be amazing, thanks so much
/r/seduction22/11/19 03:42 PM
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That’s good. It would be even better if a comment was left explaining the reason for removal. The reason this would be helpful is because a lot of them have a decent amount of engagement already. So if a person is checking comments by people they follow, they’ll run into a lot of comments from that person where the original post was removed. This happens very frequently. Oftentimes the comments are useful, insightful, and in depth by people with a lot of experience. Without the original context,…
/r/seduction22/11/19 03:41 PM
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I’d accept her request and then ask her out again. I see no reason not to.
/r/seduction22/11/19 07:45 AM
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It’s really confusing to look back at comments from people I follow and see that the original post was deleted. That all being said. I think things would be a lot better if the moderators posted a quick comment stating the reason for the removal. No everyone is going to agree with their vision, but if they tell people why things are being removed then it will be a lot easier for people to get on board.
/r/seduction22/11/19 07:43 AM
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Readily approaching women, Even if they look like they wouldn’t be receptive so important. Especially for a beginner. It’s really the only way to get enough practice. Also it’s a good way to calibrate who really is receptive and who isn’t. Because as a beginner you really just don’t know. It’s also kind of like digging for gold. You just start digging a hole and sometimes you don’t get anything (rejection) And then other times you find it in the weirdest places. Like the girl walking home from w…
/r/seduction21/11/19 10:17 PM
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I think you’re wasting time with this guy. His username is “anonymous”. I think he’s either a troll, someone who is entertaining themselves by getting a rise out of people online. Or a very unintelligent and weak minded person.
/r/seduction21/11/19 10:06 PM
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How many hours do you typically sleep at night?
/r/seduction21/11/19 05:08 AM
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When you said that you could learn the violin by watching videos on YouTube I was like “Ohhhhhhhhhhh” lol
/r/seduction21/11/19 02:31 AM
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Or fuck a dragon LOL
/r/seduction21/11/19 01:55 AM
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Ok I just realized you’re fucking with me lol
/r/seduction21/11/19 01:28 AM
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When you experience in emotional spike like that, It’s an indicator that it’s a concept that you’re struggling with subconsciously. I might suggest thinking about this concept with a more open mind. It doesn’t mean that I’m right and you’re wrong. But there might be some things that your subconscious is trying to tell you that another part of your subconscious is pushing down because it threatens your feelings of safety in knowing the right way.
/r/seduction21/11/19 12:43 AM
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No, I very much do you want to increase the success rate. But in order to do that requires failure. So if I’m not putting myself in situations where I’m approaching a lot, then I’m not failing like that a lot, which means I’m not improving. Think about if you’re trying to learn to play the violin. You’re going to have to sit around for hours and hours and hours playing terrible violin before you can play good violin. And the shame should come from not doing that. You shouldn’t feel ashamed for p…
/r/seduction21/11/19 12:21 AM
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You should feel ashamed if this DOESN’T happen to you. The way I see it, I should be doing an approach about 10 times a day. At least 4 to 5 times a week. If this kind of thing is not happening to me on a regular basis, then I feel ashamed. Ashamed for not putting the work in and going through the pain of learning and growing.
/r/seduction20/11/19 11:50 PM
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I used to just start with a couple of fatty’s. Honestly, one thing I’ve noticed about attractive dudes who don’t get laid, is that they’re too prideful to fuck a few ugly girls even if they want to. Fucking less attractive women will give you experience and they’ll also up your confidence because they’ll be super into you.
/r/seduction20/11/19 10:35 PM
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I’m going with “to shut him up”. Or not to be rude and hurt his feelings and make things awkward. Happens to me all the time
/r/seduction18/11/19 05:32 AM
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Get some viagra or cialis. I get bootleg versions her without a prescription: https://kula-labs.com
/r/seduction18/11/19 03:17 AM
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Sometimes the chemistry is just bad.
/r/seduction18/11/19 02:33 AM
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This hasn’t been my experience with tinder for the most part. For me it’s been like the other dating apps except the dates tend to go better.
/r/seduction17/11/19 07:09 PM
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This is your mind trying to protect you from the pain of approaching. Nothing wrong with approaching. And depending on the type of job you’re applying for, they’re going to want to see stuff like that.
/r/seduction17/11/19 07:46 AM
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Yes. Generally you should approach anyone you want. The exception would be if you just did a good approach that you think might go somewhere, don’t do another one right in front of her.
/r/seduction17/11/19 07:44 AM
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Most of the stuff that appears to be mind games is triggering emotions. If you want to connect with more “normal” women in your league, then you don’t really need to do anything special. I’ve fucked over 100 women with just “nice guy” game, but most of them weren’t super hot. If you want to connect with women who have a lot of options you need to have tighter game.
/r/seduction17/11/19 07:42 AM
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I’m not familiar with that. Why do you bail after having a good set?
/r/seduction17/11/19 03:24 AM
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I’ve been wanting to start doing grocery stores. Do you have any pointers?
/r/seduction17/11/19 12:34 AM
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It takes astronomically more time to approach 20 social circle women than 20 day game women. In the right place at the right time, you can knock out 20 approaches in 2 hours.
/r/seduction16/11/19 05:27 PM
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I think the whole point is to do these and then fuck them up a lot of the time. Your premise is that this is the first approach that you’ve done in a while. I don’t think you should try to pick it apart and figure out what’s wrong with it. If you haven’t done very many of these in your lifetime, like a few hundred to 1000. Then you’re not gonna be very good at it yet. If you do one every once in a while, and then pick it apart, it’s going to be very difficult to get the practice in that you need…
/r/seduction16/11/19 08:23 AM
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I approach a lot, and I try not to have too many excuses to not approach. But I have to admit this is one of my sticking points. If two girls are the same attractiveness I’ll approach one of them and not worry about being intimidated by the two set or the three set. But if it’s a hot girl and her fat friend, I always feel bad approaching the hot girl. And I usually don’t do it. I’d be interested to see what men with more experience have to say about this.
/r/seduction16/11/19 06:25 AM
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I’ve been having a lot of insomnia lately and been taking melatonin. The problem I’m having with it is that I seem to wake up in the middle the night a lot. Like it puts me to sleep but then I don’t stay asleep so I have to take it again in the middle the night. But then maybe it’s still in my system when I wake up in the morning. So I was sleeping longer than I should’ve been. I usually take zinc before going to sleep but I’ll order some ZMA on Amazon right now.
/r/seduction16/11/19 06:18 AM
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For people who actually have drive and practice and improve, energy management is a big concern. Great take on it.
/r/seduction15/11/19 11:25 PM
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Right, so your mistake is earlier than you realize. You know she’s flaky. But you still schedule plans with her ahead of time. And you did that knowing she might flake. So all that stuff about how your time is valuable makes sense on the surface, but when you delve deeper you realize that you set yourself up for this. And that’s where the neediness comes from. You knew she might flake, But you leverage her into a position where she felt obligated to hang out with you anyway. I should say this is…
/r/seduction15/11/19 08:16 PM
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I think you might need to concentrate a little bit more on flipping this needy script. In the post you mentioned that your female friends said that you sent something really sweet. I believe that is obviously true. However if you go a little deeper, You’ll realize that you’re making an assumption there. The assumption is that it is good for you to say something sweet in that context. It’s probably good if you say sweet things sometimes, and other times be more cold. You also mentioned that you d…
/r/seduction15/11/19 07:50 PM
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Kid is 13. You’re the one who’s pathetic.
/r/seduction15/11/19 05:08 AM
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Wear a condom
/r/seduction15/11/19 05:07 AM
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You’re giving this guy pearls and he’s complaining that they’re too shiny.
/r/seduction15/11/19 12:11 AM
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I think this gets to the heart of something that confuses a lot of people even beyond the seduction discipline. People get confused about the difference between becoming the best version of themselves. And trying to be someone else
/r/seduction14/11/19 11:03 PM
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This has been my experience as well. I struggled a lot in my life with anxiety, being too nice. And waffling back-and-forth between being a pushover or being too aggressive. Basically just trying to please people too much. Forcing myself to go through the pain of cold approaching and examining myself and looking at why I was being rejected, really made me grow. I mean overall it’s a joyous thing. I was at a party the other day and was totally loose and having fun like I’ve never been at a party …
/r/seduction14/11/19 10:43 PM
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Yeah man, me and my friends open like that almost exclusively. Literally last week my friend pulled an ex beauty queen who is now a rich marketing executive doing that. They’re vacationing in New York in two weeks. I think he said something like oh my God I just had to tell you you were so beautiful and say hi blah blah blah I mean, if we can think of a situational opener, we use them. But like maybe 5% of the time I’ll think of one in time
/r/seduction14/11/19 09:17 PM
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Yeah what’s up with the removed posts? I have this app that allows me to follow people on Reddit, so it’ll show me a summary of their comments. Half the time I click on one, the post is removed. I just thought everyone was deleting heir own posts for some reason since there was never any explanation. It’s very confusing when a post is removed with no explanation after it has gotten some replys.
/r/seduction14/11/19 07:28 PM
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Yeah I was disappointed in the mods response. Reading it closely, he’s mostly not agreeing with her conclusion that guy’s shouldn’t approach. But there is a key place where he seems to imply that it is bad to approach direct with a compliment. This is terrible advice for two reasons: 1) it DOES actually work. 2) Although there may be better ways for more advanced men, direct with a compliment is one the best ways to start out learning. It simplifies the whole process. You know what you’re going …
/r/seduction14/11/19 07:26 PM
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Yeah so I actually went through a phase where I concentrated a lot on getting feedback from women. I made a ton of hot female friends. And I even hired women to Wing for me. I learned that women do have a little bit to offer, but mostly they give terrible pick-up advice. Her post is an example of bad advice for the reasons I described in the previous comment. I still value those friendships today. But the people who help me be successful with women are almost exclusively strong, generous, confid…
/r/seduction13/11/19 11:37 PM
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It’s scary how many upvotes this post got. Isn’t this subreddit the continuation of the old-school FastSeduction.com? Formhandle would be rolling in his grave ...OK he’s probably still alive and married and has four kids in Tulsa but whatever
/r/seduction13/11/19 11:27 PM
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As a beginner, most of my “tactics” revolve around this. A lot of approach as I do, I noticed and not because the woman was not attracted. But just because she was on default reject mode or didn’t know what else to do other than walk away. So then I reflect on it after and adjust little things to make it easier for her to engage.
/r/seduction13/11/19 11:25 PM
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I just glanced at the video with the sound off earlier today and I remember thinking that I thought he had a really great vibe.
/r/seduction13/11/19 10:59 PM
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You know, that’s the game though. This stuff isn’t easy. The guys who can figure the stuff out and deal with the hard work and pain of it all are the ones who get ahead. Sure, the woman could make it a lot easier. But ultimately it’s not her job to give us what we want, even if it’s also what she wants. If we want something, we have to find a way to make it happen. It’s the same for many things in life.
/r/seduction13/11/19 07:57 PM
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Polling my female friends, most of them want to get approached more. But the idea that most women want to be approached, while probably true, is a distraction from what’s really important. Which is that approaching produces results. What if 90% of women found being approached annoying and 10% welcomed it? Approaching would still be a good idea that produced fantastic results.
/r/seduction13/11/19 07:07 PM
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Just PM’d you
/r/seduction13/11/19 08:29 AM
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Unless this is the only time it happened and you normally get very positive responses, I think this probably has to do with your tone and body language. Normally with Direct openers where you give them a complement and just say hi, people are not so nasty. I have had that happen before, but usually people are friendly and smile and appreciative even if they do have boyfriends. Sometimes especially if they have boyfriends. But other times when I wasn’t in a good state, I would open more monotone …
/r/seduction13/11/19 02:40 AM
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How long do you talk to them before you get the number? A sticking point for me lately is I don’t keep the conversation going much because I’m not good at it yet. So when it seems like it’s about to stall, I number close and then peace out.
/r/seduction12/11/19 08:02 PM
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I always approach women with headphones in. The reason is because I do day game and every woman ever has headphones in these days. If I didn’t approach women with headphones in, I’d be standing around holding my dick all day.
/r/seduction12/11/19 07:28 PM
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Never listen to women’s advice in this area. It’s not that this person is not telling the truth. She is. But it’s a very small portion of the truth. She’s only considering her narrow point of view and her narrow vision. She is saying that when she has headphones on, she does not want to be approached by a random Redditor. This is irrelevant for a few reasons. The first is that she doesn’t know what all the other women with headphones on think. Do they want to be approached? Some of them will wan…
/r/seduction12/11/19 07:24 PM
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From the books I’ve read and the people I talk to. You need to do at least 1000 approaches, more like a few thousand before you get good. You also need to engage in “directed practice” which means you periodically analyze what you need to improve, what’s going wrong, what’s going right, then change things and iterate. If you fail to do the high number of approaches, you won’t get good. If you do a high number of approaches and don’t constantly seek to work out kinks and improve, you won’t get go…
/r/seduction12/11/19 07:18 PM
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Dude, yeah this has totally been my experience too. That’s why I approach girls who even look kind of bitchy or busy. You just never know who’s going to light up from an approach. A lot of the girls with resting bitch face are in bad moods. But a lot of them just have resting bitch face and never ever get approach because of it. And they really want to get approached and don’t know what’s wrong with them.
/r/seduction12/11/19 07:01 PM
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I’ve had that happen to me a few times. I led work vulnerability and it worked really well. I said something like how I was getting away from online dating and meeting women in the real world. Both led to longer conversations and some deeper rapport. Check your default answer, that’s kind of nasty. No reason to be negative like that.
/r/seduction12/11/19 03:01 AM
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I almost wonder if something is working against you in the background. Like if people google your name some weird shit comes up or something. It’s very weird to get blocked by someone you’ve slept with. Especially if you didn’t blow up her phone or something.
/r/seduction12/11/19 02:53 AM
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Sounds to me like you’re waffling between two opposing extremes on a bell curve. First one, you went too far and hurt her. Second one you’re going too far in the other direction too fast. Sounds like you’re insecure. First one you had her, but then spun plates because you didn’t feel like she would find you adequate without doing all that shit. Second one you go all in and get needy, again cause you’re afraid and insecure. Working on the insecurity should make you happier. This other shit will w…
/r/askTRP12/11/19 02:17 AM
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Is she super into fitness? I almost wonder if she’s looking for an experience where you’re the player, but then you see something special in her, so you start taking her on dates and shit. Like we know piles of guys are asking her out to dinner, but instead she’s over in your apartment on the first date. So she’s turned on by a player. But then she doesn’t want to fuck cause she wants it more like a date, to be special. So then you find some reason to appreciate her for what’s on the inside. Now…
/r/seduction11/11/19 10:05 PM
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It might be most people’s scale. I should ask around. More likely everyone has their own. Probably based in their own priorities and experience. In my area, (Washington DC) an average girl would be a little fat. Your 5: good body, ok face. That would carry some value. My friend is from San Diego and I think the standards here are much higher. It also sounds like pickup was significantly easier there. People are known to be cold and antisocial in DC. Do the super hot girls bring you more pleasure…
/r/seduction11/11/19 08:29 PM
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Is this scale from somewhere? Or is this your personal one? Which level do you aim for? Like which one makes you happy?
/r/seduction11/11/19 08:06 PM
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/r/seduction11/11/19 08:02 PM
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Nice guy game seems to work well on the average girls.
/r/seduction11/11/19 06:05 PM
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Kind if a side-note: that numbers scale is a lot different than the one I have in my head. For me: 5 is pretty ugly, but fuckable if I’m very horny 6 cute but fat or other major flaw 7 attractive but major flaw such as a little overweight, ugly face. Or age starting to show 8 no major flaws, toned body, pretty face 9 very hot and toned 10 movie star hot 6’s and 7’s mean I’m settling. Anything 8 and above means I’m happy. For me, there are diminishing returns on a 9 or 10. They aren't bringing me…
/r/seduction11/11/19 06:03 PM
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Fear
/r/seduction11/11/19 07:45 AM
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Haha yeah I mean sometimes it’s just pride in your workmanship. I mean you could get greedy and fuck her before she comes. But you could also show her an awesome time and take a risk.
/r/seduction11/11/19 07:38 AM
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Loved that you mentioned eating out her ass. Hardly any guys do that. When I’m super attracted to a girl, I’m all over that ass. This is probably obvious in hindsight. If I’ve never fucked them before, I won’t let them orgasm with oral. Higher probability to stop in the middle of oral and fuck them, than hope she still wants to fuck after she’s come.
/r/seduction11/11/19 05:29 AM
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Get some guy friends. Preferably ones who are confident, kind people. I don’t know too much about night game, but I think the thought is to hold off on the ass-grabbing a bit. The reason is because when you were doing that you were looking at things as more of a linear progression. You believe that if you’re able to grab her ass then you’re one step closer to having sex with her. But this is overly simplistic way of viewing things. And that type of thought process is one of the main things that …
/r/seduction10/11/19 07:23 PM
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A couple things: She’s got some sexual trauma in her past. So that’s gonna suck. You’re moving very very slow. Generally makeouts lead to sex. So it’s strange you guys have made out so many times and not had sex. Although this could be an exception if you guys are in high school or something. She doesnt like you moving super slow low like this. I can kind of see why too. It’s like you’re trying to boil a frog by slowly turning up the heat. By inching along like that, you’re creating the frame th…
/r/seduction10/11/19 07:13 PM
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I don’t know, but it sounds worse to me. Being intimate with people over and over again and then being discarded. I might be a little biased. Most of the incel-type men I’ve come into contact with are that way because of negative thinking in their own heads. Being angry at everyone and then hating on women. Usually combined with other stupid shit like not wanting to sleep with less attractive women. On the other hand, I have a soft spot for women so I forgive their foolishness more readily. I do…
/r/seduction10/11/19 07:26 AM
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I’m no expert, but for a date, I have the most luck when I get their talking about things they’re passionate about.
/r/seduction10/11/19 05:17 AM
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I think you might be misidentifying your problem. It sounds like you’re getting your foot in the door, but during the insta-date, you’re game isn’t good enough for them to want to see you again. This isn’t a horrible thing. It’s just something to work on and improve. Are you talking to girls for 30 minutes before getting their number?
/r/seduction10/11/19 02:58 AM
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A lot of the understood best practices in this community are useful but that doesn’t mean nothing else will ever work. It’s not near that ridged. You can come across a little bashful or insecure and get results. Especially considering the meaning of the words is drastically influenced by your tone and body language. I think people getting too wrapped up in all these tactics and theories and what to say can really mess people up sometimes. Missing the tree itself by being too focused on the leave…
/r/seduction09/11/19 10:06 PM
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Ask her out.
/r/seduction09/11/19 09:48 PM
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Oh man, this happened to me in college! Too bad it was MLM, but great story lol
/r/seduction09/11/19 09:44 PM
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The worst is when he does get locked down. Because the whole time he’s looking for somebody better and is unsatisfied. And then he waste the woman’s time. I mean, it’s not always like that. But I think it is a trap that some women get into over and over and over again. Exclusively dating guys above their level with dark triad traits. Those are usually the women saying that all men are assholes and no men want to commit.
/r/seduction09/11/19 05:31 AM
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I really need to start doing that. How long does it take you to parse through all of the sound files? Or do you start recording immediately before you do the approach?
/r/seduction08/11/19 10:15 PM
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I think the female version is worse. Which is one of the points I was making. The emotional trauma of repeated pump-dumps seems horrible to me. There are also some other things about being female that seem scarier and more difficult. That being said, people who get what they want out of life tend to take charge and take responsibility for getting what they want. The male incels and the angry women on FemaleDatingStrategies all seem to have in common a lot of external anger and blame. I believe t…
/r/seduction08/11/19 10:08 PM
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I have some female friends that have the same problem. This shit isn’t easy for women either. I mean, it’s really easy to have sex. But often you don’t find out until much later if the guy is actually interested in you or not. Which is a very difficult situation. There is a Reddit called FemaleDatingStrategies But I don’t recommend it. Reading over a lot of the posts, most of the people on there seem to be basically the female version of male incels. I mean they are women so they’re not celibate…
/r/seduction08/11/19 09:01 PM
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What kind of things did you find when you started recording? I’ve been wanting to do this for a while.
/r/seduction08/11/19 08:47 PM
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Sorry, it was as u/Loreing instead of r/Loreing (Fixed it in original comment) I feel like 3% of the people on here actually know what they’re talking about And have advanced skills to teach. And when I read that post I realized he was probably one of them so I started following him.
/r/seduction08/11/19 08:44 PM
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I know who this is. His handle is u/Loreing After I read that post, I started following him
/r/seduction08/11/19 08:39 PM
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It’s a fair point. In the past I’ve had things go far after not kissing on the first date. But past few years, it seems if we didn’t kiss on the first date, there wasn’t going to be a second date anyway. I think this is because before I just wasn’t going for it when I could have. There hasn’t been one time where she turned the kiss into a hug or cheek kiss instead and then there was a second date. If they feel strong chemistry, they’re going to want to kiss on the first date is my theory. I mean…
/r/seduction08/11/19 06:20 PM
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/r/seduction08/11/19 02:43 AM
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I’ve fucked over 100 women. Interestingly enough, for almost all that time I was a nice guy and made a lot of the typical nice guy mistakes. The number one reason I was able to fuck that many women was desire. I really really fucking wanted it. So I went on a lot of dates. And figured out ways to meet women and fuck them. Mostly it was online. My strategy seem to have been to take them on a date and make them feel comfortable with me. Then on the first second or third date I would find a reason …
/r/seduction08/11/19 02:37 AM
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I actually don’t think this is a terrible question. If you’re the type of person to have normal relationships, then your answer well tell her some things about you. Things that will make her feel closer to you. I ask girls this question for this reason and many times it’s created a closer bond. If you have fucked up relationships, I’d definitely spin it a little bit. I’ve made some big mistakes in past relationships, so I spin some stuff for sure.
/r/seduction08/11/19 02:20 AM
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I always go for it. If they don’t want to by the end of the first date, it’s very likely not going anywhere anyway
/r/seduction08/11/19 12:49 AM
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This is pretty much why I started day game. Figured it was kind of like tinder except I got to dictate that the hottest women saw me and had to swipe right or left. ....and I might be their only match for a while.
/r/seduction07/11/19 11:16 PM
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I always ask them out in the first few screens of text
/r/seduction07/11/19 11:14 PM
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I think we might agree more than I came across. I do agree that these tendencies are in all women. And I didn’t mean to advocate for being “nice”. I believe that the men that she was talking about were erring on opposite sides of the bell curve. The assholes were too much asshole (too self-centered maybe?) and the nice guy was too nice (not centered, weak) I think the trick is to combine the good parts of each and discard the bad. I hesitate to call it a bell curve because to combine the two is …
/r/seduction07/11/19 11:07 PM
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Kind of off-topic: but when do you decide to actually invest? Or have you not felt like you’ve wanted to yet?
/r/seduction07/11/19 10:08 PM
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You make a lot of really good points here. And I think the post you’re referring to is a really interesting one and a really good one. I think the flipside is that most of the women on female dating strategies are hard cases. I would say the typical woman wouldn’t polarise that much towards the assholes. The reason she’s on female dating strategies is because she has a problem. She’s trying to fix something in her life. Her specific thing seems like she polarize is too much towards men who are e…
/r/seduction07/11/19 06:54 PM
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Ha ha I love that! Usually the r/femaledatingstrategy Reddit Is like one step above the incels, but that’s good
/r/seduction07/11/19 03:42 AM
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What’s the deal with all these removed posts lately? Is this post removed or is it my app that’s messed up?
/r/seduction07/11/19 01:55 AM
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Yeah, that’s what I was thinking when I read it too. To allow himself to be dominated like that. On the other hand, we can all learn things from other people who know more than us on a particular subject. It sounds like he didn’t understand why those terms were needed.
/r/seduction07/11/19 01:46 AM
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Hahaha yeah
/r/seduction06/11/19 12:01 AM
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Right, so the problem isn’t that realistically you can’t do these things. It’s that you think that you can’t.
/r/seduction05/11/19 08:44 PM
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I know this is really hard to grasp right now, but this is all in your head. You have negative thinking patterns which is creating all kinds of problems.
/r/seduction05/11/19 08:42 PM
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So.... this concept isn’t just about seduction: The attitude that you want results quickly and easily is of course understandable but it’s not really the attitude that people have who get things they want out of life have. It’s not that you should choose the hardest thing either. But you have to look at he playing field objectively, figure out what you need to do. Then work your ass off and enjoy the process.
/r/seduction05/11/19 08:39 PM
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Getting with half brings a host of other problems. I've gotten near that and had to back off because you end up sleeping with women and then not wanting to see them again and hurting a lot of people. Its great you're going on so many dates. I might suggest setting a goal to go on 100 dates and try to learn each time. Dating can be hard. And depending on the types of women/platform you use, you get rejected a lot more. Personally, I have way more success with Tinder, but its harder to find hot wo…
/r/seduction05/11/19 08:08 PM
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I wasn’t able to read your original post, but it sounds like I’m dealing with the same problem. It’s tough.
/r/seduction05/11/19 07:13 PM
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You might even like some of these new girls keep, but you don’t have that kind of relationship with them yet on the first date. It’s not a good comparison from one to the other that early.
/r/seduction05/11/19 07:12 PM
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That’s really interesting, what was causing your panic attacks?
/r/seduction03/11/19 08:13 AM
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A few thoughts: You're upcoming goal does not need to be so ambitious. If you went out for a two weeks and never approached, but each tried to, that wouldn't be bad. In order to get over approach anxiety, some people have to go out day after day and try to make themselves approach. You're next goal might be to make yourself go out for 10 days, 1-2 hours each and try to approach. After that, your goal could be to approach 3-7 girls a day. Try to get your time in between approaches down. The try t…
/r/seduction02/11/19 08:42 PM
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Thats the game, to push yourself outside of your comfort zone into situations that make you uncomfortable.
/r/seduction02/11/19 06:53 PM
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Not sure why this got downvoted. Its a damn decent affirmation.
/r/seduction02/11/19 06:47 PM
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You don't have to believe the affirmations. You're mind being a neural network, you can just pound it with something like affirmations over and over again and eventually it will have an effect.
/r/seduction02/11/19 06:45 PM
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Omg yeah man, is always be trying to convince her not to shower after the gym so could lick the sweat off her armpits.
/r/seduction02/11/19 06:08 AM
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What’s his Instagram?
/r/askTRP01/11/19 09:24 PM
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Liked this video a lot. Seems to know what he’s talking about.
/r/seduction01/11/19 09:17 PM
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I didn’t really think of it as being emotionally challenged. My theory was it’s a hormone thing. The crazy girls even smell better to me. I think they just have so much emotional energy that they’re super sensitive and experience swings. Everything is 100 times more intense with them. That’s why the highs are so high. But I figured I had to pay for those highs with the lows. Another crazy girl I dated even told me something was off with her thyroid and she has extra testosterone or something. My…
/r/seduction01/11/19 04:53 PM
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In the book, “The 3% Man”, he talks about how women just do this. They’ll be loving one week and then cold at other times. He says it’s just a feminine thing and as men we just have to be stoic about it. If we bitch about it, it turns her off cause she doesn’t feel like her man is strong... which makes he feel less safe and secure. I think the women who are most intense tend to be the worst with this. My ex would blow my mind. But she was just so fucking crazy. Pretty sure that the same thing th…
/r/seduction01/11/19 06:08 AM
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Yeah man. I’m in the same boat. Ex girlfriend would be all over me and blowing my mind one week, then the next week was cold as fuck. The highs were never so high as they were with her. One reason I got into game is so I could be floating a couple girls like her so if one started to fuck with me head, I had backups.
/r/seduction01/11/19 05:47 AM
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Lol yeah, I mean it makes so sense. I’ve literally had this conversation before: Friend: She’s no good man, she’s crazy and doesn’t really offer much Me: Yeah man, I totally agree Friend: So you’re going break up with her? Me: Nope Friend: Why???? Me: Cause I really really really don’t want to Friend: That makes. I sense Me: I totally agree. I don’t know what to tell you
/r/seduction01/11/19 05:09 AM
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Similar to what me and my friends go through: we find a nice, supportive woman with no drama and we get bored. Give us some crazy woman who fucks us till we’re silly and then makes our life miserable with drama, and that’s the woman we want to be with.
/r/seduction01/11/19 04:03 AM
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This could also have nothing to do with you. She could be bipolar or manic depressive. Possibly not even clinical, but she could go through phases where she has more and less energy.
/r/seduction31/10/19 10:47 PM
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You’re blaming he girl when you mentioned several things in your post that make this obviously your fault. You mentioned you have no experience asking out girls and then you also described how you asked her out with low confidence. She gave you her info because she didn’t want to be a dick to your face, but she has no obligation to chat with you or go to dinner with you. You have a long road of hard work ahead of you. If you don’t do the work, don’t expect the results.
/r/seduction31/10/19 06:07 PM
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Could just change “where do we stand?” To “let’s do xyz on Friday”
/r/seduction31/10/19 04:39 AM
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Love this answer. It’s so much easier and straight forward to go direct with a compliment. It’s a great way to keep things simple while learning.
/r/seduction30/10/19 09:47 PM
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I think I see. So if she never brings up the boyfriend again, then she probably doesn't have one. If she brings it up again later, then she probably does and you bail then?
/r/seduction29/10/19 05:24 PM
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When you do this, would you have opened direct letting her know you think she's attractive? Or a situational opener? Once you re-engage her, where do you take it from there? Do you try to insta-date or number close? I think whats confusing me is that she's already set the "I have a boyfriend" frame, so how do you lead things back into a sexual/relationship frame?
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:18 PM
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When I first started with the OneWheel skateboard, I used to roll up about 30-50 feet past them, then get off, pick the board up, and walk towards them from the front. This worked well a couple if times. But other times women just got really freaked out by me coming at them from the front. This probably had a lot to do with my inexperience though. Since then, I roll up beside them and do the opener. This is smoother, less abrupt, and doesn't lead to as many harsh blowouts. I should probably try …
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:13 PM
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Yeah this girl has almost a fob. From Taiwan but went to grad school in the states and now working in DC. Looking at her facebook, I think almost all her friends are asian. A lot of girls, it s just hard to get them to stop moving and engage. This was me experimenting with different ways to get them to commit to the interaction. Because I do think for a lot of normal people, the natural reaction is to be flattered, but then try to exit the interaction because instinctually they want to avoid awk…
/r/seduction29/10/19 03:33 PM
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This time it was her name. But I'm trying to think of something better to follow up with that hooks her better than asking her name. They often give me their name and keep walking. I'd like to ask them something that has a higher probability of them stopping to answer.
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:23 AM
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Yeah, it was subtractive. Saying what NOT to do, but not giving a better alternative.
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:18 AM
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I could try "interesting". I didn't really like it cause it felt too coy, like duh I'm obviously talking to her because I find her attractive... but not saying it directly feels a little weak. She knows what 'interesting' means. I used to say "I think you're super hot and want to say hi". "Super hot" doesn't work as well as "beautiful" though. The tone is important, I can't compliment them and sound impressed. I have to sort of lower my voice, like I'm stating a fact and then taking control of t…
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:16 AM
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What do you use for a direct opener if you don't lead with a compliment? She already knows you think she's hot, otherwise you wouldn't be taking to her. By saying it, you at least show her that you don't fuck around and aren't afraid to speak your mind.
/r/seduction29/10/19 03:31 AM
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LOL thats a good one, hilarious
/r/seduction29/10/19 02:07 AM
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The biggest problem I see is if I get her to agree to the insta-date and she's not interested. Then I waste a shitload of time on the date with her.(which I think is a legitimate concern, especially in the case above. If I get her to go on a pity-date with me and can't turn that around into a lay, then I've really fucked myself) As for the women wearing headphones, walking fast, in a bad mood.... thats a good question. I actually open women like that a lot. The main reason is because I believe i…
/r/seduction29/10/19 02:05 AM
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80% of my approach has been from a OneWheel electric skateboard. Right now I'm at about 130 approaches so I'm still a beginner, but this is what I've learned so far: It works better than walking on outdoor moving targets during the day for one very simple reason: You can get to the woman faster. So you spot a woman 50 yards away? You can get to her in a few moments instead of having to walk fast or run after her. A few other notes: I used to come up beside them and do my opener and then ride alo…
/r/seduction29/10/19 01:56 AM
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Does he talk about needing to be alpha and not beta in Models? Its been a while since I've read it so I forget a lot of it. The biggest thing I remember is him saying to be vulnerable more often.
/r/seduction29/10/19 01:37 AM
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I loved Models. The purpose of that opener was to get her to stop and engage instead of keep walking. There is some subtleties to what I was doing that I failed to describe: They're all moving targets (I don't think I would have used this on a stationary target) I'm opening them, and then I ask them a question right as I stop moving. (Before I used to walk along beside them, but that has problems of its own. ) The idea is to get them to stop and answer my question. This was working sometimes, bu…
/r/seduction29/10/19 01:31 AM
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I should have mentioned this before: I tried "I know this is crazy but I think you're beautiful and want to say hi" a bunch of times. It works ok, but I get better results with the simpler, more direct: "I think you're beautiful and want to say hi." I specifically didn't do that this time because I felt like it wouldn't work on her and did "Don't hate me" instead. I'm having trouble articulating why I think this worked better than the other stuff I've tried. One key concept is my goal was simply…
/r/seduction29/10/19 12:44 AM
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I'm saying strict application of the scientific method: "Do 100 with this one and 100 with that one" is not what I see being used. Instead I see people trying new things all the time and going with what they feel works the best... a creative... even playful way of thinking. The reason is because the problem set is way too complex to succeed using an A-B test approach. I believe that type of thinking is one of the ways that some guys stall out in their development. They hyper-focus on things, suc…
/r/seduction29/10/19 12:00 AM
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MidwestDaygame I really hate to do this. Calling bullshit on this style of thinking. Pickup is extremely complex. Everyone who I know and have read about who is good at it uses a more intuitive approach.
/r/seduction28/10/19 11:50 PM
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Yeah, I think it appealed to her empathy. I felt like it would make her stop and chat instead of running off. I do this on an electric skateboard. So I rolled up beside her and did my opener, then when I ask her name, I stop and get off the board. This is where they either keep walking and blow me off or stop and chat. The trick is that they have to be a little rude to keep walking, cause I just asked them a question. I think if I had done my standard "You're beautiful" opener, she would have ke…
/r/seduction28/10/19 09:29 PM
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Yeah, the worst would be if he out 2 hours into it and then it failed.
/r/seduction28/10/19 12:26 AM
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Yeah based on how she told the story, I don’t think the guy was a knockout or anything. He was probably reasonably attractive. But the key seemed to be that he made her feel comfortable and she enjoyed interacting with him. I figure he probably kept the conversation light and fun. Then he asked he to come hang with him at another location, she enjoyed that too. As the day went on, he probably escalated and they eventually ended up at his place. The weirdest part of the story to me was that he ne…
/r/seduction27/10/19 08:30 PM
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A female friend of mine told me a story about how a guy chatted her up in Trader Joe’s and they had sex later that day. I asked her how he did it and she had no idea. She just said he was friendly and it just “happened”. (Obviously the guy was doing something very skillful weather he was a natural or studied pickup) The girl is a 9 by they way.
/r/seduction27/10/19 05:57 PM
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That works on dates, but not so much on the first one to three minutes to pick up.
/r/seduction27/10/19 12:28 AM
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Yeah, you’d be surprised how easy it is to rationalize yourself out of pick up. I have a friend who is a really good looking and really sociable, and he’s always finding reasons not to approach. When I pointed out, he’s like “oh shit, I’m totally playing mind games with myself” I’m on around my 130th approach and it’s starting to get easier. Based on books I’ve read and people I’ve talked to, I believe it will take between 1000 and 5000 approaches to get good. ...And that’s assuming directed pra…
/r/seduction26/10/19 11:46 PM
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It’s a numbers game. And you can use it to your advantage. Women will think you’re young, then you tell them your age, they’ll be shocked and you have an opening for a conversation. Rule #1 pickup is the guy who can push himself the most into what makes himself uncomfortable wins. Dealing with fear, anxiety, and self-doubt is the #1 barrier of entry into the game. Sure, some women aren’t going to like your baby face. But others will. Your job is to find the ones who like it and forget about the …
/r/seduction26/10/19 11:23 PM
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Dude. Count your blessings. You can be banging 18 year olds now and until your fuckin 40. I’m 38 and always looked young. At first it was inconvenient but now I bang young girls while dudes I went to high school with look like they could be my fat uncle and I wouldn’t touch their old wrinkly wives with a 10’foot pole.
/r/seduction26/10/19 10:53 PM
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I think this is true for extroverts. And I have noticed that some women will immediately engage. But they seem to be very extroverted women. I’ve noticed that a few times they kept walking and I got the feeling that they would have stopped if I give them a reason to. The problem is I’m sort of surprising them with this. So a normal person with a normal amount of social anxiety is going to try to keep walking. A few other times I have gotten shyer women to stop. I believe at the times it was beca…
/r/seduction26/10/19 09:50 PM
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Your comment makes more sense in that context
/r/seduction26/10/19 09:44 PM
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I usually say something like: “I’d be kicking myself if I didn’t say hi to you” Or “I think you are very beautiful and want to say hi” The reason I do this is because it’s simpler than going with an indirect opener. They know exactly why am talking to them. And I don’t have to think up something in the moment. I always know exactly what I’m gonna say to start.
/r/seduction26/10/19 09:20 PM
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Hey random question: How did you come across this post? Did it pop up in a feed or were you browsing r/seduction specifically?
/r/seduction26/10/19 08:52 PM
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Who’s infields would you recommend to watch these days?
/r/seduction26/10/19 01:34 AM
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I spent at least a week or two doing indirects at first because I couldn’t make myself go direct. Now, I almost always go direct because it seems less complicated to me. Maybe when I get more skills I’ll start doing more indirect stuff again.
/r/seduction26/10/19 01:04 AM
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Haha yeah, whenever they say “I have a boyfriend” I instead hear: “Chris, go work on your game some more”
/r/seduction25/10/19 08:36 PM
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Yeah that’s annoying
/r/seduction25/10/19 08:30 PM
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Did you find a pen one you like?
/r/seduction25/10/19 06:06 PM
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I’m not sure I totally agree with this. I think “shit tests” like that fall on a bell curve. You don’t want to fail too many of them but I think “passing” every single one is not a good thing either. I think healthy women want a strong, independent guy, but also someone who cares about them.
/r/askTRP25/10/19 04:15 PM
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I had this problem with a FWB a while back. It only got worse. You should probably be letting her know your expectations before you go over or she comes over. “So horny can’t wait to see you!” If she does this more times, I’d cut her lose cause at least for me, it’s really stressful when they do this.
/r/askTRP25/10/19 04:12 PM
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If you can manage, try saying “Whats your name” instead of immediately dismissing yourself with “Have a good day” Then when she responds with her name, tell her yours and then try to make a general observation about her. Doesn’t have to genious, like if she’s reading a book, you can say “You like to read” That being said, if all this is too much, do your original plan cause it’s a good next step.
/r/seduction25/10/19 03:35 PM
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Anything specific you do with your phone set up? Or you just turn the video on and stick it in your pocket?
/r/seduction25/10/19 03:21 PM
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Haha yeah, I’m not worried about getting caught or something. Its perfectly reasonable for me to want feedback on my approaches. The mic would be something I could clip somewhere. If I just use my phone then it won’t pick up the audio as well from my pocket. I don’t want to have anything in my ear while I’m trying to concentrate on the conversation.
/r/seduction25/10/19 04:57 AM
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Yeah I was thinking that, just need to hook a mic up to it. I could call him right before I do the approach
/r/seduction25/10/19 04:06 AM
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They’re outliers, but they can be a lot louder than normal people too, which is unfortunate
/r/seduction25/10/19 03:58 AM
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I want to know what app she’s using to do this. It’s gotta be an app since it’s so precise. This could be a shit test, but it might also be that she wants to throttle the texts so she’s not on her damn phone texting you all day. If she always responds immediately, and you always respond immediately, that’s a recipe for not getting anything else done.
/r/seduction23/10/19 07:13 PM
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The stuff you get from the doctor is going to be higher quality. The stuff I recommended comes in liquid form so that you have a whole lot more control over the dose that you take. You use an oral syringe and you can control how much you take to the 10th of a milliliter. First time taking Viagra I figure you can take it significantly before 30 minutes. I’d do a test run with it to make sure the dose he is telling you is good for you. Viagra lasts about 12 to 24 hours for me.
/r/seduction23/10/19 06:55 PM
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I’d just ask him out. Like not ambiguously. Like let’s have coffee tomorrow evening after work at XYZ location. He’s probably especially shy with you because you guys work together. And doesn’t want to fuck shit up and then have to see you every day. That being said, it’s mostly a bunch of dudes on this forum. You should probably get some advice from women too, specifically women who seem happy. There is a FemaleDatingStrategy subreddit.
/r/seduction23/10/19 02:48 AM
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I generally ask them out within the first 2 to 3 screens a text. Lately I’ve been trying to get them on the phone first so that I don’t waste time on a date with them if I don’t like them.
/r/seduction23/10/19 02:45 AM
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Roman?i haven’t tried them yet. I think you’ll be happy with the pill
/r/seduction23/10/19 02:19 AM
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Get some viagra/cialis ASAP. You obviously have a psychological thing going on that you need to fix long term. But you can nip this boner thing in the bud right now before she comes back again. You can order some off the grey market here: https://kula-labs.com I like the the stuff they call “Varden”. I mix it with Viagra, but take a gasex cause viagra makes you fart. Low dose of cialis every day is good, but too much makes my back sore.
/r/seduction23/10/19 02:18 AM
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I think you should generally have a boner whenever possible when a girl is sitting on your lap.
/r/seduction23/10/19 02:11 AM
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“And women aren’t funny” To anyone else reading this - That is the kind if thing incels think. Very unhealthy, hateful. Also means the person has little experience with women.
/r/seduction22/10/19 09:19 PM
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I don’t think you fucked up the kiss. I think she wasn’t into you before that, hence her weak ass kiss. Her saying that shit about the kiss was kind of a shit test, that you failed by apologizing and making excuses. That being said I don’t think it would have made a difference had you passed it. You just would have maintained more dignity and been in a better mindset for your next experience with someone else. It’s a numbers game. Keep at it, get more practice. The biggest mistake I see you maki…
/r/seduction21/10/19 05:01 PM
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This is really helpful. Have you done anything with your hair? Like to keep it all on your head and not going bald? Or do you just naturally have a full head of hair? Also, is that all night game stuff or so you dress that way for day game too?
/r/seduction21/10/19 04:32 PM
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So you talked with the mom and daughter for 2 hours? A lot of the time when I see this, the mom and daughter are spending time together. Like at the mall or an art festival. Are you going for isolation then? Or just briefly chatting both of them up and then getting her contact information for later?
/r/seduction19/10/19 03:09 PM
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Did something happen to destroy the lairs?
/r/seduction19/10/19 02:49 PM
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It’s so weird how a lot of the hottest girls are with there moms. I haven’t done any sets like that yet but I know it’s something I want to start soon. It seems like it could be a good opportunity if the experience can be pleasant and fun for both the girl and her mom. How do you handle those approaches?
/r/seduction19/10/19 02:43 PM
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Yeah actually I always go for the kiss at the end of the first date at the latest. The reason is because if they don’t want to kiss me at the end of the first date, then it ain’t going anywhere anyway and I know to forget about her and not worry about pursuing. Like if she wasn’t ready to kiss me at the end of the first date but still would have gone on a second date with me, that would be a time wasting situation. And a few times I’ve thought the girl wasn’t interested at the end of the first d…
/r/seduction18/10/19 04:09 AM
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Ideally, you should’ve gone for the kiss on the first date while she was at your place. However I don’t think you should beat yourself up over this. And I don’t think it’s a fatal mistake either. I mean, shit happens and things aren’t going to be perfect all the time. I think you absolutely did the right thing by going for the kiss on a second date. Perhaps she’s weird or perhaps you missed calibrate and it came off as creepy. Regardless you absolutely did the right thing. You put yourself in a …
/r/seduction18/10/19 03:25 AM
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It’s out of print. But the PDF was readily available on google. Loving it so far. I like his energy.
/r/seduction15/10/19 10:28 PM
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I wouldn’t recommend this one. I think there is a ton of good technical advice in it. But the author, Roosh V seems to have an extremely unhealthy mindset. Really bad inner game in some subtle ways. I liked: * Models * The Natural * Aproach and Talk to Women Easily - Craig Beck
/r/seduction15/10/19 09:57 PM
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I thought the same thing about the title but bought it cause my friend recommended it. It’s one of the best. What parts did you think were dumb?
/r/seduction14/10/19 07:46 PM
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What city are you in?
/r/seduction14/10/19 03:19 PM
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The best thing I can think of is to moderate some of the advice that’s given. It sounds to me like he was implementing advice that was for people who were farther along. Like telling women to stop and touching them and stuff. Those are things people should do once they’re more comfortable and can read the situation. He probably could’ve learned that stuff eventually. But he needed to start with smaller steps more suited to his own challenges. Communication with the magistrate could help too. The…
/r/MensRights11/10/19 03:19 AM
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Yes, I agree. The girl is obviously socially handicapped too. The irony is they’re probably both very high anxiety and neurotic and might be good for each other... Too bad she did terrible violence to him. I think this is a much less problem for girls though. They can just look pretty and get away with it to some degree. I know a few girls like this. They hold men to extremely high standards meanwhile they have huge gaps in their social skills and understanding of other people. ...I’m not really…
/r/seduction10/10/19 06:31 PM
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He was probably at the railroad pass because there were less people there. Less people would be good because it would reduce his anxiety. He was staring at the hedge probably because he was freaking out trying to work himself up to do the approach. He was probably looking for a girlfriend, not a friend. But I’m very sure he was not trying to cop a feel. He probably read a bunch of shit online about how you’re supposed to touch the girl on the arm when you meet her and a bunch of other shit and h…
/r/seduction10/10/19 04:08 PM
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I’ve lucked into that before. I’d love to learn how to do that on purpose.
/r/seduction09/10/19 10:25 PM
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This is just speculation from a noob, but sometimes I wonder if too much use of “material” reduces bonding and the likelihood of a relationship. Perhaps too much success with women who are not a good match. Or maybe even working as a reverse filter, letting in women that won’t work as well in a relationship with that person and screening out the women who will.
/r/seduction09/10/19 08:37 PM
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What happened to him? Did he end up in a relationship?
/r/seduction09/10/19 07:52 PM
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Some never worked for me, some worked once, my goal was really just to find something that worked 50% of the time. Afterall, getting attraction 50% of the time would be amazing. But I stumbled across game that worked at 70% and some at like 99% of the time. When you say you watched people's infields, I assume you meant like, in person. Did you mean like on YouTube? If so, who would you recommend watching?
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:28 PM
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What is the nature of the stuff that works most of the time? I know you probably don’t want to give away something exact, but what is the nature of it, like topic and tone? Also, how did you find other people who are good at day game? There are a few of us in my area working on it, but most people who are getting results are doing social circle and put down day game / direct.
/r/seduction05/10/19 04:31 PM
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Can you point us in the direction of some of these routines? This kind of makes sense based on what I’ve seen so far. There is sort of a smallish amount of things you can say to each other at the start. A lot of times things go in one of only several directions. So I can see having a handful of routines being the best way to start and then once the foundation is set that way, moving in to being more natural.
/r/seduction05/10/19 02:45 PM
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Literally this same thing happened to me a few weeks ago. I don’t know exactly what happened. My theory was my brain needed to catch up and process everything. I’m getting back into it now, but it really sucked, I fee your pain. One part of me wanted to drive forward but then this other part just like, died in apathy. The eye of the tiger left me. I indulged it for a week figuring I needed the rest and now I’m fighting to get the tiger back.
/r/seduction05/10/19 01:28 PM
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Do you approach girls in the phone much? I approach if they have headphones in cause EVERYONE has headphones in. I’ve been holding off if they’re on the phone though. Figured I’d get to that when I have more experience.
/r/seduction05/10/19 01:23 PM
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Some people have written some good stuff on it. Actually the other person who commented on your post, Fairanalyist has a really good write-up on it. I also suggest reading Craig Beck’s books on approaching. (I listen to them on audio). Most people start out just by going out and being in the environment where they’ll do the approach and it takes many days to even work up to one approach. I think a problem a lot of new guys have is they want to go directly from A-Z, but when you look at people wh…
/r/seduction04/10/19 10:40 PM
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Pain is good for you. It gets you out of your comfort zone. Facing fear is good too. Start pushing yourself. Push yourself a little past your boundary, but not way way past it cause it will be too much. Then move your boundary a little farther out and repeat.
/r/seduction04/10/19 10:07 PM
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Some girls are going to be glad you approached and some aren’t. If you listen to the the girls who go around saying they don’t like when guys approach then you are letting them ruin it for all the girls who want to be approached. A big part of this challenge is to move past the impulse to please people. To be liked by everyone and behave in a way that everyone finds acceptable. That impulse is a huge thing holding men, especially nice men back. To miss out on finding the love of your life becaus…
/r/seduction02/10/19 02:33 PM
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Thanks that’s helpful. Another thing from your post made me think as well: You said you would often have a lot of girls hanging off you and your wings. Does that require a lot of extroverted energy? Or can that be done with a more subdued, relaxed energy?
/r/seduction01/10/19 08:24 PM
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Just watched the video. What was your approach to learning that worked and what didn't work?
/r/seduction01/10/19 06:42 PM
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This is really helpful
/r/seduction30/09/19 12:05 AM
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Are there movies that you personally like and don’t like?
/r/seduction26/09/19 10:17 PM
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I don’t understand, she responded to you..... so you got her interest. Also it was your first day on Tinder so it’s super reasonable to be like “none, this is my first day on tinder”
/r/seduction26/09/19 02:14 AM
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That’s how you know you’re emotionally healthy and doing right. As soon as you get good and start getting what you want, you settle down. I don’t get these dudes who fuck 100 9’s and 10’s and just keep going. It’s like “Dude, you didn’t fall For even one of these women??”
/r/seduction26/09/19 12:33 AM
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Is that negative thinking? I didn’t even catch that but I think you’re right. I was looking at it more like a positive. I just gotta do these 1000 approaches and not pressure myself for results, just improvement. But maybe I need to adjust me attitude. Over all I do well, I fuck a lot, just like 7s from tinder, not the 8s and 9s I approach from daygame. I think your video camera suggesting is fucking brilliant and I think it’s exactly what I need for some of my sticking points. Have you read The…
/r/seduction26/09/19 12:28 AM
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I’ve done about 80 approaches so far. Based on my learning curve, I’m not expecting to achieve a reasonable level of competence until at least 1000 approaches. 3 lays for the first 2000 approaches didn’t sound that bad to me, because those are your shittiest approaches. It also sounds like you got a lot of dates? Just not lays?
/r/seduction25/09/19 11:47 PM
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It sounds like you never were able to find someone who was better than you? I read this book “The Natural” and one thing he did was find a few guys that were better than him. I’m not skilled or anything, but I haven’t been able to find anyone significantly better than me yet. Did you ever find anyone you were able to mentor?
/r/seduction25/09/19 11:42 PM
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Did you ever try going out with a wingman? If so did you ever find any you liked?
/r/seduction25/09/19 10:26 PM
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This is really good, thanks!
/r/seduction25/09/19 07:13 PM
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No. I was curious what your learning curve was like.
/r/seduction22/09/19 11:37 PM
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Awesome thanks.
/r/seduction22/09/19 06:41 PM
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I'm in DC area too. Roslyn (Arlington). Been doing a lot of day game recently,
/r/seduction22/09/19 06:14 PM
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Is this is? http://www.socialnatural.com/The-Art-of-Conversational-Combat-Jijutsu.pdf
/r/seduction22/09/19 05:43 PM
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About how many approaches did you do before you started getting dates?
/r/seduction22/09/19 02:05 AM
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I wouldn’t worry too much about it either way. If it comes up or you feel like making a joke about it then definitely go for it. You just got to realize that it’s fucking hilarious. I get that you feel kind of embarrassed, but it doesn’t really sound embarrassing to me. Do the people you hang out with not masturbate all the time?
/r/seduction20/09/19 05:59 PM
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That’s hilarious. Own it, it’s really funny and a great story. Make fun of her for not knocking.
/r/seduction20/09/19 05:51 PM
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You probably just need to figure out how to make your personality work. The solution is probably not to change but instead to add some little tweaks. And then also to realize it’s polarizing. Some women will love it and some will hate it. This is a good thing. Trying to be more like Clint Eastwood or James Bond would probably not work at all cause you’d be throwing the baby out with the bath water.
/r/seduction20/09/19 02:06 PM
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Been there. Good job man. Great way to be strong for your mental health.
/r/seduction20/09/19 01:56 PM
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I usually go for the younger women. I’m sure there other guys on here who can give you better advice. But I remember a conversation with one of my female friends who is 38 years old, this guy she knew from the bar asked her out. It sounded like she was interested in having sex with them but not dating him. But he framed it more it’s like a dating thing. If here just come out faster to have sex with them she also would’ve said though though. She did mention if he had found some legitimate reason …
/r/seduction19/09/19 03:57 AM
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I mean, it’s a numbers game. I’m not sure it would be any harder for you to bang out an older woman than a woman your own age. But you’re probably right in asking if there Is anything specific you should do To increase your chances considering the age dynamic. I’m 38 and hit on women 15-20 years younger than me all the time. Some go for it and some don’t, it is what it is.
/r/seduction19/09/19 03:35 AM
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I think you did the right thing asking her out. If they turn you down, you might mention how many times you can ejaculate on one hour. Older men can’t go quite as hard as the young guys. Half joking here, but I almost wonder if she somehow needed permission or needed it framed as a sexual only relationship.
/r/seduction19/09/19 03:29 AM
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I imagine for the same reason most people aren’t entrepreneurs. It’s hard to do things they are different, scary, and violate social norms. I also imagine approaching was a terrible strategy 60,000 years ago when people lived in tribes of 150 people... which is what our DNA is mostly still adapted for today.
/r/seduction19/09/19 02:23 AM
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You could maybe improve your game. But it might just be that you’re expecting too a higher response ratio than is reasonable.
/r/seduction18/09/19 07:02 PM
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Ok so you’re fat? So what? Fat people have sex and fall in love all the time. Your problem might be that you want to be validated by being with a more attractive guy. That kind of thinking leads to unhappiness. Show some body pics. Plenty of guys will want to fuck you. If you show body pics, you won’t be worried they’ll be turned off in person cause they already know what you look like. Make them accurate too. Don’t try to get just the perfect angle on all of them. This is your filter so you don…
/r/seduction18/09/19 04:15 PM
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Not a lot of context here. But it sounds like the person who said that values different things than you do. That person is probably fundamentally wired differently than you and finds completely different things stimulating. I hired someone to help me with my image about a year ago. She was a socialite. Very beautiful, always going out and doing things. Very dialed in. She told me something similar. She said I wouldn’t get invited to dinner parties because I was a boring filler person. I thought …
/r/seduction18/09/19 02:55 PM
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I might suggest traveling/living in Guatemala, Thailand, or the Philippines. Sometimes extremely short men can sort of transcend their situation and almost become more successful because if it. But getting over the massive mind-fuck of being a small man is really difficult. ...I think that’s why extremely short men who do well, do very well... they’re frames are solid as fuck after getting over the mind-fuck.
/r/seduction17/09/19 03:34 AM
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I'd really like an audio book filled with field reports so I can listen to it while I'm cleaning and stuff. Sometimes its not about remembering and learning from each detail, but just getting my subconscious mind focused on the whole problem set.
/r/seduction17/09/19 12:21 AM
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What are some PUAs who's videos you like?
/r/seduction17/09/19 12:18 AM
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Did you find Mystery helpful? Is there something you prefer more? I've been trying to build some technical skills around this lately.
/r/seduction17/09/19 12:13 AM
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Yeah I did notice the new account which I thought was a smell. Specifically, what are some things you think he is discouraging that new people should do?
/r/seduction16/09/19 02:55 PM
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Yeah, I think he’s being a little overly broad when he says game is “bad”’or whatever. He’s talking about a more specific set of approaches, attitudes, and values to gaming. ...his overly broad working is eye-catching but also getting people upset. That being said... man... I’ve seen some guys just tread water in an endless loop beating their heads against the “game” he is saying is kind of waste. Endless time practicing certain approaches, being in control, and other surface stuff that is never…
/r/seduction16/09/19 02:53 PM
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Same reason a lot of stuff we say in real life goes over great, then we try it over text and it bombs.
/r/seduction16/09/19 02:45 PM
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I was meeting them on tinder. Hinge is also good. With tinder, I paid for it and used boosts. I also put a lot of effort into getting good pictures. I’m still very new to pickup, but so far it seems to be more promising.
/r/seduction16/09/19 05:40 AM
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I’m 38. I’ve been doing it this way all my life. I look about 32. Most of the women I fuck now are about 10 years younger or more.
/r/seduction16/09/19 02:46 AM
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Keeping the conversation non-friendly is an area where I'm not especially good. Most of my success comes from meeting women online. So the context is already that of a date. Then I just shut the fuck up and get them talking about themselves. After they talk about themselves a ton, they feel comfortable with me. I get them back to my place either that night or on the 2nd or 3rd date. About 1 out of 50 times (accurate statistic) it will take me past the 3rd date to bang. Women want to fuck, if she…
/r/seduction16/09/19 02:10 AM
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I do a lot of it instinctively. And I do still have a lot to learn. For example, a lot of the stuff I do does NOT work over text at all. What I think it is, is I love women and I feel genuine pleasure when they are happy. I’m also very strong. So when I tell a woman that she is beautiful for example, I’m saying it from a position of strength and benevolence. If I make her feel good, that will give me genuine pleasure via my brain’s empathic pathways. ...Not because I’m trying to get sex. (not th…
/r/seduction16/09/19 01:43 AM
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Reading between the lines, he’s already learned game. He wouldn’t be able to do all that if he hadn’t already traversed that gauntlet. (In my opinion) I’m not sure if he’s trying to say that people should not practice game. If he is, he probably doesn’t realize that he wouldn’t be able to do what he is doing if he hadn’t practiced so much and gotten so much experience. Sometimes people who are very good at something forget how they got there or don’t realize how they got there. What I took from …
/r/seduction16/09/19 01:31 AM
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To be honest, I pictured you doing a lot of what he is saying when I read your stuff.
/r/seduction16/09/19 12:21 AM
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This is closer to the stuff that works for me. I think why this goes over most guy’s heads is it’s all about frame and energy. Not words and logic. A lot of these guys don’t understand that you can say nice things to a woman and tell her she is beautiful if you are coming from the right place. A frame of strength, benevolence, sexuality. I’m curious, are you a sensitive, high empathy person? I’ve always had “nice guy game”. I’m very kind and compassionate, but I fuck a lot of women.
/r/seduction16/09/19 12:19 AM
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That would be more effective/comfortable in terms of result-to-rejection ratio. But it is not a good strategy for the following reasons: * Wasted time not approaching and practicing waiting for IOIs * Staying inside comfort zoning, instead of pushing comfort zone and learning * Missed opportunities to further reduce approach anxiety * Missed opportunities to learn which women who look unapproachable actually are receptive * Missed opportunities with women who look I aproachable but are receptive…
/r/seduction15/09/19 04:27 AM
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Not sure how I understand how you mean for that to be applied in this context ?
/r/seduction15/09/19 02:43 AM
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“ approach and talk to women easily” by Craig Beck got me over the hurdle. Also: The Natural Models
/r/seduction15/09/19 12:10 AM
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Tell her you like to use a condom cause it makes you last longer.
/r/seduction14/09/19 11:18 PM
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How many approaches do you think you’ve done? I’m trying to do about 200-300 a month. But so far this month I’ve done a little less than 100
/r/seduction14/09/19 09:54 PM
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I love that book. “The 3% Man” has helped me get back in with my ex. It’s probably not going to work long term, but fun for now.
/r/seduction14/09/19 01:46 AM
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Yeah, I probably need to focus on it more, move out of my comfort zone, and build the skill.
/r/seduction13/09/19 05:10 AM
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Most of those things I’m doing or improving on except for #5 - Stopping girls I tried stopping girls a few times and most of the time it went very badly. (Except for the one time it went great)
/r/seduction13/09/19 12:42 AM
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I found this to be super helpful. Sometimes it’s hard to know when you’re in the right path amongst all the rejections.
/r/seduction11/09/19 08:49 PM
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I think ultimately after I get a ton of experience cold approaching, I’ll find a lot of the really good women that I want to be with at the gym. But I don’t think I’ll be able to do that without First doing a few thousand cold approaches.
/r/seduction09/09/19 09:34 PM
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Personally, something like that on low volume makes me sleep better. You can play it over a speaker or use headphones designed to be worn while sleeping (check Amazon) With the headphones, if you wake up in the middle of the night you can shrug them off. I wouldn’t stress about having it all in the time, just try to work it into your particular lifestyle
/r/seduction09/09/19 06:19 PM
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I mean, maybe it’s for the best. If you want something serious and she’s not looking for that? But on the other hand as men, we tend to act like dogs until we find someone we really like. And then sometimes we go for the relationship. She could be the same way.
/r/seduction09/09/19 04:20 PM
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I don’t see anything wrong with that one. I might I also try: * I kiss women * I go for the kiss * I initiate kissing * I initiate * I take action
/r/seduction09/09/19 03:27 PM
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This is a big reason why many guys don’t start approaching. A smaller percentage of women do not like to be approached. And they hear those women bitching and accept that approaching is bad as their reality. In fact, these women are ruining it for other women who would like to meet men that way. They are also ruining it for men who would like to meet women that way. Women like to be approached by guys who are good at it and who they’re attracted to. When you go out and approach, you are the cata…
/r/seduction09/09/19 03:24 PM
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I think when she asked you what was wrong, you should have told her straight up. It took a lot of courage for her to ask you out and then ask you that question. She had taken two steps forward in order to do that and that was your opening to move a step forward without being needy or losing value. When you acted like nothing was wrong. It was too much nonchalance. That’s the thing about all this advice from this community about being aloof with women and being the prize and not validating them a…
/r/seduction09/09/19 03:12 PM
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Ahhhhhahahahahahah
/r/seduction07/09/19 02:39 PM
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I’m sure it’s different for different people, but I like the dichotomy of me being bigger than them and being able to pick them up and move them around and stuff. I weigh about 180, so if they’re tall but also slim that works too.
/r/seduction07/09/19 02:22 PM
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I’m 5’8” too. I will say that shorter girls are much easier. However, pickup in general is very hard. A big part of it is pushing your comfort zone and approaching women who are likely to say no and getting those no’s. It’s not a good strategy to pre-screen girls for the ones you think will say yes. You should always be pushing a little past your comfort zone. And in order to be true to yourself, you need to be approaching the women you want to talk to, or at least working towards that. That all…
/r/seduction07/09/19 02:17 PM
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Second this. You gotta plow through. You’re at an advantage over other guys cause you at least have a frame of reference.
/r/seduction07/09/19 02:03 AM
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I’ll definitely check that out
/r/seduction07/09/19 01:49 AM
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Yeah I’ve actually gotten fairly far being a nice guy. I’ve fucked a lot of women and they often fall for me. I balance it with being very masculine and sexual. I pass a lot of shit tests and I’m dominant in bed. I am starting to see when being nice doesn’t work though. It makes a weak first impression. Generally I need a few hours to get someone interested. I’ve been doing daygame recently where I have like 3-5 minutes to get them interested and my nice guy charms are NOT working.
/r/seduction06/09/19 06:22 PM
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Hahahaha yeah I know the feeling. One thing that helps is to establish physical dominance. Like I’ll move them to the inside of the sidewalk as we’re waking and stuff.
/r/seduction06/09/19 05:43 PM
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My advice would be to escalate. It probably takes her a long time to open up and she’s probably bored too. She probably is only stimulated by a few very close friends and family. If she still hang out with you, it’s probably because she want some dick very badly. At least that’s the way it was with the girl I was with. And she fucked me so good I passed out one time.
/r/seduction06/09/19 04:28 PM
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In the summertime I’m just like fuck it, I’ll just hit on shorter bitches lol
/r/seduction06/09/19 04:26 PM
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I don’t think it’s a huge problem when they come off. Because when they come on you’re probably about to make out anyway. The problem if you lift too much is the way it changes the way you walk. And to a lesser degree the way you stand. I’m 5’8”
/r/seduction06/09/19 04:25 PM
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Yeah there are lots of shoes that just naturally give you an inch. Like Timberland boots. I will say, no one will generally notice if you are wearing lifts. But if the lifts are too high, they’ll just notice you walk funny and your shoes look gay. The reason you will be waking funny is because you will be walking like you are wearing high heels... cause you’re basically wearing high heels. So people will just be like “huhhhhh... he walks kind of like a girl or a drag queen” They won’t even usual…
/r/seduction06/09/19 03:25 PM
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I have biker boots with a heel and then I add more lift on the inside. I wear jeans/pants over the boot. It gives me about 2 more inches, which is significant. Don’t lift too much or it will mess with your gait. Also, I’ve tried shoes that were designed to make guys taller, but each and every one had a giveaway in the way the heel is designed and they look weird. The biker boots I have look like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YD963K/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdo_t1_hvNCDbJM3RHCC
/r/seduction06/09/19 03:08 PM
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Doesn’t really sound like you did anything wrong. Shit happens
/r/seduction06/09/19 03:01 PM
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I usually ask them out within the first 2-4 screens of text. Texting for hours fuckin sucks. Then when you finally meet in person half the time they’re not what you thought.
/r/seduction06/09/19 01:22 AM
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I’ve been with a girl like this before. In my case she turned out to be extremely worth it. Start by talking to her about initial things that she likes such as movies. I remember I started to get her to open up by asking her which movies she liked and didn’t like and then I would try to predict which movies she had already seen And whether she liked them or not. There’s a very good chance she’s also extremely sexual.
/r/seduction06/09/19 12:38 AM
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Hahaha I don’t know.
/r/seduction06/09/19 12:14 AM
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If I’m not ok with being friend-zoned, I treat them the same way as I did when in the relationship. Including talk, touching, and kissing. If they don’t like it, they don’t get to talk to me.
/r/seduction05/09/19 06:04 PM
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This kind of think is going to happen sometimes. It’s the price you have to pay in order to be successful. I would like to add that I do NOT agree with the people who are saying “Oh, you could have screened better.” The reason I don’t think this is a good mindset is because if you try to screen out bad apples like her (who were not very very obviously bad apples) then you’re going to screen out a lot of good apples too. This is going to deprive you of * Good successes * More learning experiences…
/r/seduction05/09/19 03:40 PM
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With that follow-up, it sounds more like a shit test than a rejection.
/r/seduction05/09/19 03:31 PM
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Thanks!!
/r/seduction05/09/19 01:36 AM
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I think I wasn't clear in the original post. This is a hail mary text. So at this point, I would have already tried to go for the insta-date in person, if that didn't work, I got her number. Then I would have already tried setting up a date over text and she has now ghosted. So this is the last step in the process before I never text her again.
/r/seduction05/09/19 01:35 AM
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Do you have an alternative suggestion?
/r/seduction04/09/19 09:46 PM
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It sounds like you’re saying even when they do agree to go out with me from the Hail Mary text, then it will be way harder to fuck them cause if the frame I’m setting. This totally makes sense. I’m right at the beginning of this, only about 50 approaches in and I know there is a ton of stuff I’m doing wrong still.
/r/seduction04/09/19 07:28 PM
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To be attractive as a heterosexual woman is more straight forward than for a heterosexual man to attract women. You’re probably a little chubby and/or you’re dressed in a way that’s not stimulating. I know it sucks to be chubby and it’s embarrassing but it’s actually a fairly simple problem to fix. The other silver lining is even if you are a little chubby, you can dress a certain way and still get a lot of attention. It doesn’t even have to be super slutty. Then go out with women who aren’t as …
/r/seduction04/09/19 03:17 PM
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Avoiding being a girl’s emotional sponge is something you do with women you haven’t fucked yet in order to avoid being friend-zoned. This is a completely different situation. I don’t know what you should do, but if you’re worried about not being alpha, you’re taking the advice way out of context.
/r/seduction04/09/19 03:04 PM
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Ok dumb question: How did you get frame control from “The Way of The Superior Man”? I got this: * Be confident, and do what you think is right. * Attractive women are crazy and all over the place. Your job is to relax and stay cool
/r/seduction03/09/19 03:47 AM
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Yeah I think so, the problem I see with those is that they will distort contact. And proper use of eye contact is something I will need to be working on.
/r/seduction01/09/19 10:04 PM
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Its a shame how much negative energy people sling around on these forums sometimes.
/r/seduction30/08/19 07:36 PM
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I think you're right, the "Hey beautiful" doesn't work over text. To be fair though, this is how I opened her, I rolled up next to her and said I thought she was hot. Also, I pull this off in person. With proper tone and eye contact, I'm not putting them on a pedestal. By saying "Hey beautiful", I"m establishing them in the feminine. Her job as a woman is to be beautiful, to smell good, follow my lead, be supportive, bring joy. I am masculine. I kill things, I make things, I protect things, I am…
/r/seduction30/08/19 07:35 PM
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Thanks man, this is really helpful. I don't mind paying for books. I have a texting book now that I'm reading. Do you recommend any others? The problem I seem to have sometimes is each interaction is so context-dependent. And the advice in the book is geared toward that individual person's style. ... so its taking me some trial and error to figure out how to adapt to my own needs, style, identity, and women I vibe with.
/r/seduction30/08/19 07:28 PM
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Oh interesting, I didn't realize that was RSD
/r/seduction30/08/19 07:23 PM
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I feel like a more natural lube might be more bacteria-prone? This is coming from someone who has absolutely no context of your relationship, but it almost sounds she's wearing too much of the pants in the relationship. Outside of the bedroom does she take the lead and make a lot of decisions? Are you dominant? Problems with the expression of your masculinity and her femininity within the relationship could be causing these problems in the bedroom. Especially since you were just kids when you me…
/r/seduction30/08/19 02:10 AM
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I was thinking of a spin off the first one: "Hahahah yeah crazy we met this way right?" Kind of a dumb question: Whats wrong with saying she's the first? I thought about it, but didn't cause it would be a lie and then that incongruence would permeate my other interaction with her. But it doesn't seem a terrible thing if that was the first time I ever did it? Super cool way to do daygame btw. Thanks man, I'm just getting started with it, learning the routes where the most women are and the best w…
/r/seduction30/08/19 02:03 AM
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I read a few books lately that might help with your problem. There is a lot of information on them that you might be able to use in order to get her more enthusiastic about your relationship. * The 3% Man * The Way is the Superior Man Perhaps these two as well: * Atomic Attraction * No More Mr Nice Guy You mention two things that give me pause: She won’t use lube. She won’t get eaten out.... this kind of makes me think she might have some serious hang ups with sex. A quick fix might be to get he…
/r/seduction30/08/19 01:39 AM
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Hmmmmm... I could see if she wants to walk the dog with me. Not sure I want to hang out with her at some party though
/r/seduction30/08/19 01:16 AM
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Yeah especially since she didn’t lead with emojis. Ok now what do I do?
/r/seduction30/08/19 12:56 AM
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Right, that’s assumed. Now let’s improve it.
/r/seduction30/08/19 12:50 AM
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Yeah the ioi's are really nice. Sometimes I get more on my board because it is unique and draws attention.
/r/seduction28/08/19 08:03 PM
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Better to say it like, "Hey if you're uncomfortable and want me to leave just let me know and I'll leave." This is a relief to hear you say. I prefer to be blunt and direct. I'd rather get rejected than force an awkward interaction. I could be looking at it wrong, but it seems more time efficient to go approach more women and find one that is interested, than try to force something with someone who is only lukewarm. ​ The reason this would be better is because on an electric skateboard it'll loo…
/r/seduction28/08/19 07:48 PM
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Do you have a rough idea of how many you've done in total?
/r/seduction28/08/19 07:35 PM
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Thanks so much for this response. This sheds light on some things I was blurry on, especially the reasons for doing the full stop. Not sure if this is of any relevance, but I've been doing the approaches from an electric skateboard. So to do a front-stop, I would swing around in front of them, about 30-50 feet ahead, then stop my board, get off, take my helmet off and then approach from the front. This worked a few times, but there were many other times where it freaked out the women. Although I…
/r/seduction28/08/19 07:03 PM
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Very cool to record this. How long have you been doing this?
/r/seduction28/08/19 06:51 PM
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I love that book. I especially like how he talks about polarization. Makes everything so much simpler, instead of trying to maximize each approach, just polarize them so the rejections are faster and the ones who don't reject are super interested. Then just do more approaches...
/r/seduction28/08/19 02:44 AM
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A few days ago, I saw the best breakdown ever of how to do this by FairAnalyst: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/cutote/how_did_you_guys_get_over_approach_anxiety_i/exytcvr?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x Its especially useful how he points out that he kept going out even though he wasn't able to do any approaches AT ALL. Another thing that I did is I bought a ton of audio books on approaching and day game and listened to them while cleaning / driving / at the gym, etc... They had u…
/r/seduction28/08/19 02:35 AM
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I just paid for boosts when I did it.
/r/seduction27/08/19 01:17 AM
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"It validates 6's and makes 7's seem unattainable" This has been my experience too. I know a woman who is a 38 year old 7. She got a tinder account and had over 1000 likes in the first day. I know another woman who is a 7 and all she dates are guys who are basically 9's off dating apps. Then she doesn't understand why none of them want a relationship with her... I also speculate that women in the 8-10 range who are also cool people are a lot less likely to ever end up on an app - cause they get …
/r/seduction27/08/19 01:08 AM
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I've been in this situation. I didn't have a problem with it. The girls I lived with were cool and I made sure they knew pretty quickly that I was a dog and they should expect me to be bringing lots of girls by. That being said, it did kind of mess with me sometimes. For example if I wanted to bring some average looking girl by cause she'd come over and fuck me during lunch and do freaky shit, then I found myself concerned that the girls would see me with a less attractive girl. I did it anyway,…
/r/seduction27/08/19 12:25 AM
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I also imagine that if they're in a group, their fear/intimidation factor is lower. So not only will you present as more attractive because of your confidence and boldness, but their anxiety about the situation will be lower too.
/r/seduction26/08/19 05:42 PM
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VERY NICE I love how you talk about just going out and not being able to approach at all. But the trick is to just keep going out even if you know you probably won’t be able to approach. A lot of people think this is a wall, but the trick is to just keep going out and keep trying. Have you found that the bolder moves like approaching women in groups actually works better? I did this a few times when I was younger and it seemed to actually have better results.
/r/seduction24/08/19 08:45 PM
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You should expect this to happen a certain percentage of the time. That being said, there are things you should be doing to reduce this: Body language Voice tone Appearance (clothes and polish, not your natural looks) You can also select targets that are more likely to not be annoyed by an approach, although valid counter-arguments can be made for this ( just because you're a lot more likely to be rejected quickly doesn't necessarily mean you shouldn't do it, especially f the rejection will be q…
/r/seduction24/08/19 04:45 PM
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I just like to leave handcuffs and bondage rope conspicuously lying around j/k
/r/seduction24/08/19 04:31 PM
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I used to keep that book on my coffee table just for shits and giggles
/r/seduction23/08/19 04:08 AM
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Hey thanks a lot, this is useful. Do you know what this kind of coach is called? I've tried a few keywords and I keep getting stuff for public speaking or voice lessons for singing. Basically I'm just trying to get into the habit of speaking with a lower. more calm, dominant voice. Right now I speak from my throat a lot and I sound more high pitched and anxious than I need to.
/r/seduction23/08/19 04:07 AM
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Its most definitely a mental thing. The utility of the physical fix is that it gets you started and having good sex. Once you have some good sex, you'll relax and start to be able to have good sex without a physical fix. You're dogma on not wanting to try a few physical hacks speaks to your anxiety and inflexibility. Which is probably contributing to your problem as well. You're not going to get addicted to a numbing wipe for your dick.
/r/seduction23/08/19 02:14 AM
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I think Roman makes something you can wipe on your dick to make it less sensitive. There is a book where he goes into this: "No More Mr. Nice Guy - Dr. Robert Glover"
/r/seduction23/08/19 01:56 AM
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Any suggestions on how to join these facebook groups without everyone I'm connected to knowing my business?
/r/seduction23/08/19 12:57 AM
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Was that post recent? I think I saw it. I felt bad for him. Some of the "PUA's" out there are basically incels who created enough tactics to bang a few women but are still completely fucked in their core.
/r/seduction23/08/19 12:49 AM
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Part 2 - I've persevered with the OneWheel pickup. Today I did 5 approaches. The first 2 approaches by body langue was WAY off. When this happens, the girls just keep walking, they won't stop. They respond as if I'm a salesperson trying to sell them something. I was a bit phased after the first 2 approaches went badly, but I persevered. After having done 5 direct approaches on previous days, I'm starting to be able to shake this kind of thing off easier. I'm a little shocked how fast the anxiety…
/r/seduction23/08/19 12:39 AM
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Corey Wayne - The 3% Man is EXCELLENT For this problem, I might suggest "The Natural - Richard La Ruina" It is also an excellent book and he goes into more detail about how to actually talk to the woman during the approach. He breaks it down really well and its not stupid routines, but deep insight into how to control the thread of the conversation and build attraction.
/r/seduction22/08/19 04:11 AM
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Is it a small college or a large one?
/r/seduction21/08/19 04:10 PM
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I'm reading "Models - Mark Manson" now. I was initially turned off by the title, but its exceptionally good as well. "3% Man" made it possible for me to start sleeping with my ex again. No way I would have salvaged that without that book.
/r/seduction21/08/19 02:39 PM
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You’re at a great age to start this stuff. The small town is a major major problem though. You probably already know a bunch of people there who already perceive you as a loser. This has a brainwashing effect and makes it difficult for you to change your self image. It also makes it really hard to experiment and make mistakes because you’ll always be thinking about people you know finding out. Also there’s just a lot less going on and less women and less places to find women and less places to w…
/r/seduction21/08/19 02:05 PM
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There is a pathway to becoming happier and accomplishing these things. How old are you and around where do you live? Like is it the Suburbs or in a city?
/r/seduction21/08/19 02:00 PM
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I think you’ll be a lot happier if you start going to the gym. It will raise your testosterone levels which gives you more energy and vigor. Eventually find a crew of dudes to workout with. Makes going to the gym a pleasure. Preferably these dudes will be people who work hard and are happy. You will have to be able to work out by yourself before this will happen though. Workout classes are fun too and you can just show up. Also stop playing video games and other things that waste your life. Some…
/r/seduction20/08/19 09:01 AM
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I think you answered your own question here: “I catch feelings really easily” You probably just need to chill and not tell them you have feelings so early. A few people suggested reading Corey Wayne - The 3% Man. Definitely do this. He’ll fill in the blanks you’re missing. Also sounds to me like you’ve just had some bad luck. That last girl sounds a little strange. Are you sure you even want her to have feelings for you? Are you sure you have feelings for her? Or do you just want the validation …
/r/seduction20/08/19 08:53 AM
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This is one of the best books out there, especially for this problem.
/r/seduction20/08/19 08:43 AM
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Yeah me too. I do feel a lot better about it now. I think I will be comfortable with it in about 1-3 months at the rate I'm going now.
/r/seduction19/08/19 10:58 PM
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I don't like this response because it implies if he does send her the $500, then he'll get somewhere with her. Which he will not.
/r/seduction19/08/19 10:25 PM
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For god's sakes do not do that. She's going to take your money and then ghost you.
/r/seduction19/08/19 10:23 PM
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Read the book "No More Mr Nice Guy - Dr. Robert Glover" he goes into deep detail on this subject.
/r/seduction19/08/19 10:21 PM
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I can do direct approaches now, but not "at will" the way I would like. I have to take about an hour to work up to them. This did get me closer to the goal though and I think the part it played was significant. A few other things I did that got me closer: Listened to a ton of audio books on day game and approaching women while I did other things Listened to Chapter 8 in the audiobook: "Approach and Talk to Women Easily - Craig Beck" on repeat a few times I have a friend who is good at hypnosis h…
/r/seduction19/08/19 10:17 PM
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Its probably more useful to explain the logic behind those affirmations. I was out trying to do direct approaches and I was freezing up. My mind would not let me do them. I thought about it for a while and I think it was because my subconscious was trying to protect me from pain. Similar to if I tried to bite my finger off or punch myself in the face really hard. I'd have trouble doing these things even with a really big incentive. So what I did was try to create some affirmations that re-framed…
/r/seduction19/08/19 04:51 PM
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I don't know what you want me to say. Read those books, get your head on straight.
/r/seduction19/08/19 04:40 PM
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You're problem isn't your dick size. You're problem is your mind. People get broken up with for all sorts of reasons. The challenge is to remain centered, which you have not. You have caved and become emotionally weak. I don't say this to be rude, but to be helpful. You need to become strong. You are mind-fucked. The vector to mind-fucking you was this experience with your ex. But if that hadn't happened, something else would have mind-fucked you. Either way you'd be in the same basic situation.…
/r/seduction19/08/19 04:09 PM
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Yeah man, like years. I went to a hypnotist and still go regularly
/r/seduction19/08/19 04:14 AM
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Affirmations help me a lot. I do this: Write down a list of affirmations. Record myself saying them. I keep recording them until I sound relaxed and dominant, not tense. Play them back while I sleep and during the day at low volume while I work. An ios app called "AudioShare" lets you play the track on loop while also playing audio from other apps at the same time Affirmations can be used for self-hypnosis, they don't have to be just things to raise your self-esteem. For example, I was having tr…
/r/seduction19/08/19 02:12 AM
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I don't mean this to be rude, I mean this to be helpful: You're thought process here is part of your problem. Hesitant, anxious, fear-oriented. Looking up to a random internet guy to tell you what is safe and not safe instead of taking it upon yourself to make the determination.
/r/seduction15/08/19 04:10 PM
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A couple things: Read the book "No More Mr. Nice Guy" Its a really damn smart book written by a really damn smart guy. He goes into some deep background about why you're probably getting ED and what you can do about it. (Note: The book is not about being an asshole, its just a catchy title) Get some Cialis and/or Viagra. Take enough of that shit and it doesn't matter what psychological shit you got going on in your head. You'll have a hard on. You can order from a company called Roman and its 10…
/r/seduction15/08/19 01:27 AM
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Yeah man, thats probably accurate. I mean its hard. Getting into approach is very painful at first. Its terrifying and painful. Much easier to just read and fantasize.
/r/seduction12/08/19 08:52 PM
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For me, this was more nuanced. I needed to do approaches and also read. Obviously only reading is a terrible strategy. And the attitude, "I'm going to read all these books and AFTER I'm done THEN I'll approach" is pretty dumb, cowardly, and masturbatory. That being said, its really easy to get caught in a loop where you're approaching and not getting anywhere because you don't have enough information to learn from your mistakes. Thats where the books come in. I listen to audiobooks, and I do whi…
/r/seduction12/08/19 08:35 PM
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I just bought 'How to be a 3% Man' on audible. I'll listen to it after I finish "The Natural" which I'm listening to right now. I've been devouring books on day game and other adjacent topics like inner game and approach anxiety. I'm constantly listening to these books to learn but also to keep myself in the mindset of getting my ass out there and approaching. Keeping focused on it. I find approaching is easer if I keep listening to people talking about it all the time. I'm also getting hypnotiz…
/r/seduction07/08/19 02:28 AM
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I've been doing situational because of anxiety I have over direct. I believe I should be doing more direct though.
/r/seduction06/08/19 06:03 PM
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I'm having a similar problem. I'm getting hypnotized once a week to help with it. Also playing affirmations in the background all day. At the end of the day though, I think I'm just going to have to force myself to do it over and over again.
/r/seduction06/08/19 02:10 AM
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The coolest thing I see here is you did 100+ approaches. I don't think it much matters as long as you got some results (4 dates, 1 fuck), which you did. If you do a few hundred more, you'll get a higher and higher ratio of results to approaches. I do disagree with the very negative person who said you shouldn't track this stuff. I think its a very good thing to track progress. ​ Are you doing direct or situational approaches?
/r/seduction06/08/19 02:00 AM
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I have a spreadsheet. 6% of first dates eventually lead to "lighting" where the girl blows my mind in and out of the sack. If i'm trying to land hot women who I'm super excited about, I have sex with about 10%-20% of the women I go out with. If I'm just trying to have fun, I have sex with about 30% of the women I go out with. Between 30%-50% of the time we both like each other and want to pursue. The lower number is if I'm dating hotter women, the higher is if I'm just trying to have fun. Of the…
/r/seduction06/08/19 01:48 AM
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I think all this talk from people about what you did wrong or could improve is not helpful. I think you 100% did the right thing as your first approach. It took a lot of balls and you kept it simple. For now, you probably just need to get to where you do them more often. Then later you can worry about all this other shit.
/r/seduction06/08/19 01:25 AM
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