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I wouldn't care. My FWB already has that issue once in a while (pelvic vasoconstriction, sometimes he needs a quick massage to get the blood flowing again to orgasm). If I was the marrying type, I'd be cool doing similar stuff for my man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:03 PM
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No, I'm bi. But OP hasn't given us much to work with, just a question about social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:32 PM
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It honestly wouldn't matter enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:26 PM
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That seems more logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:15 PM
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My FWB is 50. When I still dated, I was 17-22 and was attempting to date boys my same age. If I had to date nowadays, I would go for men 35-45, so long as we shared enough interests and hobbies obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:09 PM
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Lol, once again you're like me. The only account I have is Facebook and I only go on it every 3 months or so to keep up with friends who live far away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:13 PM
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Yeah, but it's helping other people. I probably would have suggested a different, less inherently time consuming way of checking on everyone. Like you could buy each veteran one of those $20 prepaid phones and keep 60 minutes on each one. That way you could call them for a quick check each night and they could call if they need something specific. Imo that is a better solution because the veterans are still helped but my man wouldn't have to be running around like a headless chicken.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:11 PM
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Sure, everyone will have some social media apps. That's a given nowadays. But if she only uses one or two, and takes long breaks in using them, or only uses them with her friends instead of blasting to the public, she's not going to be nearly as visible as the women and teens posting literally every half hour for the world to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:19 PM
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Ah, okay. Well, I'm sure there are women like me in their teens and 20s, it's not like my core personality changed from when I was younger. But again, the problem is you won't find them online.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:04 PM
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Am I old in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:54 PM
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Yes, it is difficult since you usually have to meet us organically rather than online.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:36 PM
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The average women does Jack shit compared to the average man effort wise, out of ignorance they will say otherwise. But you have no idea what it takes to get success as an average man. Have you never met any masculine women? People who have lived our whole lives doing whatever possible to be treated the same as our male peers, and doing the same tasks as them at work? I know exactly what my male coworkers are expected to accomplish in every job I've had and work to keep in the top 10%. I'm not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:17 PM
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Yes, there's a bunch of women who pursue that lifestyle. Not going to deny it. But then there's those of us who don't even have a Twitter or Instagram account, and are pursuing lifestyles that involve self-improvement instead of fame. However we aren't on social media so obviously can't be seen. Comes down to how "vocal" you are online and how many people know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:07 PM
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Do you know roughly when it was done or what the hypothesis being tested was? I haven't heard of it but can try searching with a few more details.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:01 PM
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Why did the girlfriends and wives of the veteran-caregivers break up with them? That doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:57 AM
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Only the incredibly attractive women who also put themselves out there as trophy wives or sugar babies or sexual prizes get free rides. Everyone else has to work. I will say that men tend to get hurt on the job more, so we need better safety equipment and protocols. Also men are over represented in certain jobs like mining, oil rigging, sanitation, etc so more needs to be done to even things out. Everyone wants to say we "need more female ceos" but nobody ever says we need more female garbage tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:55 AM
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If you remove lines 2 and 4, yes. I don't talk about my period for obvious reasons irl, but my female relatives and coworkers would indeed speak in general, non-graphic ways about their periods. Mostly about the cramps and headaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:46 AM
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Same here. And yes, I think most women have more of the painful cramps and migraines to deal with, like my first gf. Either way I feel really bad for everything they have to endure each month.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 07:32 AM
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I don't have any negative symptoms during my periods at all, but unfortunately most women aren't that lucky. I've dated 3 women in my life, one in high school and 2 in college. Each "relationship" only lasted for less than 8 werks, so at most I saw what they were like for two cycles. The high school one was pretty okay, she'd get minor cramps, slight nausea, and moody but nothing as bad as my sisters. I'd do things like make her soothing teas and tread carefully emotionally. Both of the women in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 06:57 AM
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you should give your body to science lol, let them figure out what makes you special. It's not just me, it's about 15% of women who have no negative periods from what I've read. Of course that means the overwhelming majority of women are suffering at least moderate pain and other issues 12 times a year for decades. I've said many, many times that the 15% of us need to be studied so we can figure out what makes us different. If it's genetic, obviously it's a recessive gene. If it's other factors,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 06:37 AM
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I'm the only woman in my entire life I've ever known who has no negative effects from menstruation. It's just 4 days of light to moderate bleeding and feeling more hungry than usual. Nothing else. My FWB jokes that I shouldn't talk about it because then stupid men will assume other women are faking. Every other female member of my family, including aunts and cousins, have an absolutely terrible time of it. Debilitating cramps, nausea, migraines, heavy blood flow, mood swings, constipation, bloat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 06:08 AM
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Exactly this. If a guy I'm dating doesn't like doing something I really want or crave sexually, it's not necessarily a flaw...just means we aren't compatible as partners. We're obviously not going to work out so shouldn't stay in a sexual relationship. I would leave. My stepfather paid for all of my siblings to go to college, most of whom dropped out. I didn't get anything since I'm not his offspring. That's not necessarily a flaw...just means we weren't compatible as family members. That's why …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:40 PM
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That is unfortunately a common way of thinking about sex, for some people at least. But those people are fucked in the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:47 AM
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Okay, I actually laughed at this, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:41 AM
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So what's an exaggeration of men's normal emotions called? I imagine the same thing since we all have the same range.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:48 AM
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Please do!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:25 AM
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Ah, so the perfect woman still has the normal range of human emotions, but isn't overly flamboyant with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:06 AM
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Emotionalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:42 AM
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He doesn't want to tell you at first, but you eventually figure out that she used to be very attractive, assertive, but had a dark side and would often belittle your boyfriend - even pegging him every night when they had sex. Uh, the fuck? What in Satan's red ball sack does pegging have to do with belittling someone? Anal sex is not inherently degrading to anyone, male or female. Frick alllllll the way off Mt Everest with that idea, please and thank you. He tells you how much he used to enjoy th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:25 AM
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I convinced my sister to not do it to her first son, who's dad isn't around. But her second son got cut, because his father insisted he didn't want his boy to look "like a freak". It's really disturbing how many men are in favor of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:51 PM
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Absolutely! It's great to see another person in favor of working against this, most people aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:47 PM
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This is the most well-known protest group in the US, although most of the ones I went to were local and unfortunately gone. This one is still very active though, and when they eventually get to my area I'm going to join. https://www.bloodstainedmen.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:40 PM
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So...are you going to tell u/Wrasserman, u/DetroitLou, u/kittenated, and I how you know homo sapiens aren't a social species? All of us would be highly interested in the information you apparently have. Especially since it has been proven throughout literally hundreds of years that forced isolation causes intense depression and eventual insanity in humans, not to mention more recent horrific studies involving other social animals. Also that infant humans who are adequately clothed, fed, hydrated…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:46 AM
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At this point I'm wondering if the commenter is a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:35 AM
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Anyone can do it. Doesn't mean it's healthy for most to do it, or can do it well. When exactly was it "debunked" that humans are a social species? Because that doesn't sound real.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:34 AM
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Most men don't enjoy going full on mgtow monk. We're a social species, and even those of us who are highly introverted have innate desires for love, sex, companionship, intimacy, etc. Telling the majority of men to just "be happy on your own" isn't realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:29 AM
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I mean there’s literal biblical references to women trying to destroy men. Very true, just as there's biblical references to men killing entire villages but keeping the virgin girls alive for themselves, or instructions on how to punish women who were raped but didn't call for help loudly enough in the city. Honestly, the Abrahamic faiths are just all around bloody, disturbing, and horrible in many parts. There’s the famous saying “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.” The entire line from th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:28 AM
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That's fair. So what kind of responses were you expecting, since it seems you haven't gotten what you thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 12:56 AM
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I'd own up to it if I'd ever broken up with anyone, ever. Every single time a date didn't work out, the guy broke up with me. And I'm still FWB with my only sex partner now, 12 years later. As for other people's relationships, I've seen and heard of just as many dudes being nasty as women. It's almost 50/50 in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 12:48 AM
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I agree with your point about AI rights and child rights. See all my following comments about animal rights...or lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 12:40 AM
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Of course it's not common, but neither is the one you posted. Regardless of whether the person is a man or woman, the overwhelming majority of people aren't going around causing significant harm to their exes. Some people are crazy but they're a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 12:39 AM
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Are all his other former horses doing better too?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:51 PM
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I'd take great pleasure in treating him the same way. Fuck, but I hope he at least got a few years in prison getting beaten up by other inmates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:50 PM
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I guess you don't watch much/any true crime documentaries. There's absolutely boat loads of men who come back to kill their ex or the entire family, or do it before the divorce has gone through. A startling number of men have a "if I can't have them, nobody can" mentality regarding divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:41 PM
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Completely understandable. I wouldn't have any problem whatsoever doing the same thing to those humans and forcing them to walk around under threat of being tasered.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:36 PM
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Well, it is true that people lie on anonymous surveys. It's something we went over for a few days in statistics class, and how to write questions that help to alleviate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:12 PM
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Exactly 😏 And yet people will still lie on them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:03 PM
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Fair. Although...This is the one topic where I'd have the absolute least faith in accurate self-reporting, for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:46 PM
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Question: by monogamy are you referring to marriage or simply sexually monogamous relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:15 PM
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I haven't had any female friends for roughly 9 years, and only a few before that. So my responses will be based on my own preferences, female coworkers, relatives, mother and mother's female friends, acquaintances/neighbors, former classmates, and discussions I've been a part of on Facebook. These are all rough estimates, obviously. What do you think is an exact percentage of women who're into meaningless hook ups? 15-20% Percentage of women settling for "betabuxxers" without liking them that mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:12 PM
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If you're not in a committed relationship where both of you understand and operate as if you're sexually exclusive, then there can be no cheating. Seems pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:43 PM
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How is it over there?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:41 PM
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Exactly. Which is why I don't believe that the majority of humans would be in favor of equal rights for artificial beings, because we're in the year 2021 and still don't have protective rights or guardianship laws for even dogs, our closest companions over tens of thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:04 PM
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You're talking about a program then, not individual sentience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:01 PM
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I don't put as much stock into wisdom, since there's a good number of humans who aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:58 PM
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If she's not sentient and can't make choices, no. If she is sentient and can make the choice, that's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:56 PM
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Guess we'd have to come up with a Turing Test...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:26 PM
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He does! It's too bad I already have a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:24 PM
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So how do we stop society from viewing men as expendable? That seems to be the most direct course of action to fix this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:03 PM
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No, what he say?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:01 PM
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I really hope you're right. It's just that I worked in wildlife rehab and still volunteer at the humane society...I see how humans treat nonhumans every week, and it doesn't make me feel positive at all. I do small parrot rescue when possible and one of my cockatiels has terrible nightmares and feather plucking from being kept in a literal closet for almost a year alone. That's classified as torture for a human but the monsters who did it to this bird got away scottfree. Dogs who were set on fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:57 PM
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So true. And it's best to start talking about it now, before it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:40 PM
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My take is that if the Singularity occurs and robots/machines gain actual sentience, they should be considered legally equivalent to humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:40 PM
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I really worry that given how our species is, it won't be taken into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:38 PM
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If you're interested in fiction, read Ray Bradbury, Issac Asimov, Arthur C Clark, and James P Hogan. Also one of my favorite graphic novels is Alex + Ada which is like, ridiculously on point for your post. Also the Chobits manga...so freaking good. Anime has waaaaay too much out there to type here, but Time of Eve is a fucking rollercoaster of feels and questioning who is human and does it matter. It's on YouTube as a 6 part subbed series. The YouTube channel called Closer to Truth is all about …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:37 PM
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Oh dude...this type of stuff is MY JAM. Fucking love these kinds of discussions and hypotheticals 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:25 PM
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No, we first met when I was 21...he was 36. We became FWB when I was 23, he was 38. I'm now 35 so he is 50. Yes, we are still FWB. Odd, sure. But we're good friends and it works for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:22 PM
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I would consider them alive, yes. Then again I define "living" as being a conscious and sentient being, deserving of the same rights. I also don't think of pets to be property, I consider myself as their legal guardian. Humans are extremely egotistical about our species. I don't believe in gods anyway. I'd hope that we figure out a non spiritual or condescending way to incorporate future Synths/Inorganics into society. But probably not...it's far more likely to be a horrible shitshow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:20 PM
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Ever since I read Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep in 8th grade, I've been hooked on techno-ethics lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:14 PM
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True, that's why I like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:12 PM
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If the androids are that realistic looking, and are literally artificially intelligent, then why would that be cringe? It's not like guys would be walking around with mobile Real Dolls...they would be with a thinking, intelligent, conscious being. Just because she's made out of artificial parts doesn't mean she's not real. The only part I never like about the idea of future Lovebots is how it sounds like sci-fi slavery. If the Singularity actually occurs and we have to make a program to essentia…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:07 PM
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If he only did it once, maaaaaybe twice, it could be chalked up to being an emotionally idiotic teen/young adult. If he did it to every woman he's as self-reflective as a shattered mirror lol. But yeah, that would be immoral because he obviously knows it's going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:54 PM
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I've never had another sex partner, I shared my virginity with him when I was 23. Everything is pretty great between us sexually, and I utterly failed at dating from age 17-22, so figure it's a waste of time. He's had 12 partners before me, but as far as I'm aware he hasn't had any others since. If he did, he would probably ask if I wanted to do a threesome lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:52 PM
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That's totally fair! It probably helps that we're regular friends 90% of the time and sex partners only a few hours a month lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:35 PM
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Especially where they had the expectation of a continued relationship. Why would they though? I haven't read any other followup comments, so maybe he explained further, but in the original post he doesn't say anything about telling them he'd want a relationship. It sounds like he was overly flirtatious, quickly intimate, and used honeyed compliments to get them in bed. But I do not see him saying any relationship stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:19 PM
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This is why it's incredibly important to think for yourself. Numerous atrocities only happen because individuals forget to stand up for themselves as well as what's moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:04 PM
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If you mean "prove I do care about stupid, meaningless shit" then I welcome you to try. Hell, if you live in the Northeast US I'll take you out for dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:02 PM
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Yeah, I corrected myself in a follow-up
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:46 PM
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He's 50. Although his age has only started to really show in the past 4 years or so. When we first met, I was 21 and he was 36...I thought he was 29 at the most lol. I didn't learn until after a few months of being friends how old he actually was.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:44 PM
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Yeah, I often see people calling them the same thing but imo they're different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:37 PM
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You did. Being assured of your abilities doesn't remotely change who you are. If you take a math test, and get 8 out of 10 questions right, you should say "I have confidence in my ability to solve these 8 problems but am not learned enough to solve the other two". Acknowledging your strengths does fuck all to change your personality. Getting an 80% on the test doesn't change the fact tacos are your favorite food, or that blue is your favorite color, or that you're shy around new coworkers, or th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:36 PM
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Dude, no. You are putting so many ridiculous traditionalist, conservative shitty takes into what I wrote. Forget reading between the lines...you've poured white out on my entire comment and wrote your own words. It would be impressive if it weren't so wrong. Men and women should both be confident. Confidence: feeling of self-assurance arising from one's appreciation of one's own abilities or qualities. It has nothing to do whatsoever with women being submissive and men being dominant. It means u…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:24 PM
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Sorry, yes, you're correct. It bans all abortion after week 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:05 PM
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Do what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:01 PM
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It depends on the state. For example, Texas has outlawed all abortion, even in cases of rape. I live in NY, we have some of the best reproductive rights and can get an abortion up to week 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:00 PM
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I'm a centrist, so get along okay with both right and left wing moderates. People firmly on their specific side are usually like oil and fire though lol. I think it's important for men and women to share basic similar views when together, but not necessarily 100% of the party lines. So long as you can agree on the core values/beliefs, that's all that really matters. This goes for religious and social issues too, not just political. Like, I'm an atheist and my FWB is what I'd call a "questioning …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:57 AM
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There was a few years in my life - because I was attractive enough - that I could do this. And I don't mean hook-ups, casual relationships, etc. I mean like love bombing girls, telling them how much I like them, and then usually going quiet or ghosting them once I got to clap the cheeks. Lovebombing is something cults and emotionally abusive parents do. So yes, that is immoral. Completely going quiet and ghosting someone immediately after having sex isn't necessarily "immoral" but it's 100% assh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:49 AM
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No, it is because men do not exist to please women. Duh. Expecting men to change to please women is stupid. It is the equivalent of expecting women to be virgin traditional housewives over who they are. True. Misogyny is forming for it is just to one sided and it is creating resentment (especially when women keep fucking men over even when they do everything right…like in a divorce). I agree that many aspects of society are one-sided and women have certain privileges that men do not. All the thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:29 AM
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How else would you classify someone as alpha / betas? I don't. The only time I ever use that type of language or classification is here. In actual, real life when dealing with people I classify them based solely on behavior. Are they Nice (generally polite, funny, kind, normal banter without being cruel, etc)? Or an Asshole (generally a cunt, rude, narcissistic, mean-spirited banter, etc)? If they're an asshole family member I cut them out of my life. If they're an asshole customer or neighbor I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:20 AM
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You can be mentally tough without being sexist, same as you can be mentally tough without being racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:04 AM
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I don't know if I've ever seen a man in a wig, but if they're as good as you say then maybe it's just not noticeable. My FWB is 50 and just beginning to get thin hair, idk what he's going to look like in 5 years. If he wants to get hair implants or wear a wig, that's fine. If he decides to just go bald, that's fine too. It's his body, not mine. If a man feels better about himself by wearing a wig there's nothing wrong with it. People do way more expensive stuff to make themselves attractive. Wig…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:15 AM
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Ah, I thought you meant validation as in actual praise for being subpar or less than mediocre. Yes, I agree that certain aspects of society are fucked up and misandric, especially mental health, support after divorce, and financial expectations. Not to mention the Draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:04 AM
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Any of them, obvious or otherwise. Whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:55 AM
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Betas don't inherently have untruthful views or don't get laid. I've seen RP guys refer to men in happy, sexually fulfilling relationships as "betas" because they have certain personality traits or are househusbands. Behaviors that are negative should absolutely be called out. No disagreement there. But that's different than saying someone inherently has those tendencies without evidence of it. It's sex based profiling that i cannot get behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:54 AM
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I'm one of those people who can orgasm from piv consistently and it's always a bit weird to me that the actual activity of penetration just doesn't do it for most. Like, it seems as though it should be way more experiencing orgasm from it, right? I almost wonder if it's a pelvic bloodflow issue or something that many women have. Maybe the g-spot (which is just the interior wall of the clitoris) isn't getting enough blood to engorge it, so the dick rubbing against it doesn't feel really good as i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:49 AM
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I just don’t understand this general idea of sex stopping when the man is done. Completely anecdotal, but by the time he's done I've already cum 3-5 times and am physically tired so am ready to be done too. Doesn't mean I won't be horny af again 2 hours later, but yeah...sex is usually like running a marathon lol. Only exception is if things are just hot and heavy, I’ll gladly enjoy what’s happening without an orgasm You enjoy sex even without an orgasm? How do you not get pain from "blue clit"?…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:09 AM
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Unfortunately, yes. Hopefully that will change someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:47 AM
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Thank you, but it's nothing worth praising. You don't get a cookie for not being racist, don't get a cookie for not being misandric. It's the default of how someone should be. I do lie about some identifying things to keep my internet privacy, but I'll never lie about things I've done/never done.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:38 AM
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Can you give a few examples of validation for doing almost nothing? In my anecdotal experience of living, you don't typically get validated for shit unless you really stand out above the crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:34 AM
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We probably can't and that's honestly very sad. It's too bad we can't just magically combine all the men who think all women are beautiful unicorns with all the men who think all women are inferior trash and get someone who is normal and in the middle. Doesn't pedestalize women but isn't misogynistic either. Treats us exactly the same as a fellow man. That's the true obstacle that stands in the way of things like male body positivity - there will never be a female equivalent to the simp who will…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:26 AM
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But it still considers women and non-stereotypical men inferior (women are all hypergamous, women are the oldest teen in the house, AWALT, the disgust towards "beta" men, telling men to always "hold frame" and never allow their wife or partner to see them in pain or ask for help/comfort, AMALT, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:52 AM
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It's what should be done, especially the anti circumcision work. It's disgusting that the majority of states have laws forbidding female genital cutting but no states are against male genital cutting. We're equals and should be treated as such under the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:42 AM
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Disagree wholeheartedly. I'm friends with some mgtow in real life, used to help run a men's rights blog, and spent years on a incel forum speaking with the guys there to better understand their struggles. Also used to talk with dudes on RP blogs, volunteered at soup kitchens that had a 98% male population, and I've gone to real life protests against circumcision. I've been involved...in some way, shape, or form...with learning about and helping "the manosphere" and men's issues since I was 19. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:29 AM
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I obviously love having sex too. Would prefer to have it twice a day, everyday, if possible. There is nothing wrong with having sex early if you're sexually attracted to the person and it's safe to be in a vulnerable situation with them. I wish I could have sex that easily and quickly! But unfortunately I'm demisexual = I don't experience any sexual attraction until I know the guy well. Having sex prior to being attracted to someone would be like fucking your sibling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:22 PM
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Probably, but I've not had luck with men my age, unfortunately. They don't have any patience and always want sex by date 3, date 4 at absolute most.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:18 PM
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On average, sure. Not 100%. On average, women don't want sex 24/7 and have an active libido like I do. Outliers exist. Plus, I'm 35, he's 50. Sex drive goes down slightly as men age. Men don't have to be horny all the time. They suffer from insomnia, illness, stress, depression, etc too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:08 PM
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Lol I wish 2 weeks was a long time...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:01 PM
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I understand what you're saying, and wouldn't mind being in a relationship with a man like you. There's different types of love...sexual, romantic, platonic, familial, etc. The fact you feel incredible "X" love for your partner doesn't mean you're incapable of feeling "Y" love for someone else. And yes, those could overlap at times. Idk, it's probably because I've been in a monogamous FWB relationship for over a decade, but I get how love doesn't have to be the same for everyone. Like, I love hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:03 PM
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Yes, precisely. I think part of the miscommunication here is people conflating the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:23 AM
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I've gone up to 3 months without sex from my guy, because he gets severe seasonal depression in the winter. That's the most I'm willing to do, and only because it has an actual psychological reason + it's cyclical so not a surprise or indicative of fading sexual desire in the long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:53 AM
2

Hopefully it would never get to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:47 AM
2

Neither shit testing nor violence are ever acceptable. They should both be called out as horrible actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:26 AM
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Imo it depends on if he actually wants to do it or if he's just doing it to make me "happy". If my FWB is just not in the mindset for sex at all but he fingers me to orgasm because he realizes I really want it, and he's doing it out of love for me as a friend? That's fine. If he was to ever do it because he thinks I'll be pissed otherwise, that's not okay. I'd greatly prefer he just not do anything and openly communicate that he's not in the mood so I can know sex isn't on the table and go take …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:18 AM
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Speaking as the one (female) who's horny 24/7 with a sex partner (male) who is not, this isn't true. Some men and women can't help that their sex drives are affected by their daily emotional or mental state, and while it's difficult to understand it isn't uncommon. If the person withholds sex for a very long period of time (6+ months) and you're in any type of relationship, you need to have a discussion about it. Maybe they have a significant physical or mental ailment but still love you...in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:53 AM
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None. My libido is higher than my sex partner's, and I'd love it if he wanted it as much as me. I've never had sex that I wasn't already wanting because I inherently want it all the time. This is why he can show up to my apartment just to play videogames and I'm already imagining ways to get him in my bed lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:44 AM
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I don't like hookup culture, it has zero appeal to me and I've only had 1 partner. The idea of sex with strangers is gross and unrealistic for my type of sexuality. I don't perceive anyone as sexually attractive until getting to know them over the course of a few months. Hooking up with a random guy would be like hooking up with my brother...nasty and -1000 points on the desirable meter. However, I don't believe it's bad or that it shouldn't exist. Yeah it made dating incredibly difficult, tires…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:41 AM
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I agree with you wholeheartedly, OP. The idea of "duty sex" is nauseating to me. I'm horny all the freaking time, would have sex twice everyday if possible. But the thing is, I know that even if we lived together my FWB wouldn't be able to keep up with that. His libido is affected by his mental state whereas mine is a constant program running in the background irrelevant to my feelings. Over 12 years I've only said no to his advances once because I had a stomach flu, he's said no to mine at leas…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:28 AM
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Agree completely as a masculine gender person. Male/masculine bonding is very different from female/feminine bonding (the latter being more difficult for some of us). As you say, networking is also extremely important and likewise handled slightly differently between the sexes in general. But you start out solitary and have to learn early on that independence is a survival necessity, not something to decide to do or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:29 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:43 PM
1

Yeah, but the familiarity is an additional feeling ime, it doesn't replace the other one. Not saying it can't replace it but it doesn't necessarily have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:51 AM
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If someone isn't used to being financially strict with themselves, I suppose it could be a problem to keep it there. No problem with that here! I keep a tight hold of my wallet and have no issues pretending my savings doesn't exist. Just comes down to reminding yourself you don't NEED a bigger apartment or newer car or huge vacation...just stay content with life as is. That's awesome, tech is a great field. You're quite a number of years older than me though. Hopefully by the time I'm your age I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 10:24 AM
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That's an interesting take on it. But in my experience it hasn't gone away after more than a decade. By now of course I know a bunch of his flaws, some things he does do annoy me, there's a couple things I wish he'd do that he's just never going to because it's not how his brain works. But I still get really excited anytime we're going to hang out, and get "butterflies" in my stomach when we're having sex. The desire to see him a few times a week, even if we're just doing friend stuff and not se…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 10:19 AM
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I don't need compliments either, but they are still nice to randomly get every few months. Just one can make me feel like I won the lottery the entire day! Aww, that's nice you're her first. My FWB is mine too! He's a great friend and much kinder than most men I'd ever had in my life. Glad you found someone to stick with!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:51 AM
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That's good, it gives you a better perspective than those who've never had to work for their money. I imagine you worked in the tech field to make as much as you have? If electronics didn't give me a headache I'd have gone into that. What do you mean "it is until you're there"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:47 AM
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Unfortunately it doesn't sound like he had anyone to help him though. It's less covering up and more bringing the truth under the light.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:39 AM
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But what about for you? Do you still get "butterflies" when she compliments you or tells you she wants sex or randomly gives you a small gift?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:37 AM
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Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:35 AM
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We wouldn't be compatible for that reason anyway. While I do eventually want to travel to a few select countries (I live in US, have only been to Canada and Mexico, but have 4 others on my list) I'm more of a homebody. Like, vacations are nice in small doses but there's nothing like coming back home to the quiet and comfort of familiar surroundings. Hey, if you have just 1 million tax free dollars lying around, I can use that to live for 50 full years without working...with inflation, call it 45…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:34 AM
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They may not necessarily be thinking about screwing you over. Many women are taught that the "end goal" of a relationship is marriage and if they spend over 5-6 years with a man but never get a ring, they "failed". I've been told by 7 different FDS women here that having a longterm FWB is the worst relationship choice I could ever make, because I'm "giving him sex for free". They don't acknowledge that I'm also getting sex from him for free lol. But yeah, a lot of women see marriage as a status …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:17 AM
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Lol, I get that a lot here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:08 AM
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What about when it doesn't dwindle, even after years?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:07 AM
1

You only date millionaires who don't have to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:05 AM
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Exactly. Due to the incredible range of what's considered attractive for both sexes, there's just no way for it to be anything except cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:04 AM
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First, that was a terrible, atrocious thing she did and I hope you were able to either clear your name or possibly press charges. Assault and defamation aren't crimes to be taken lightly. It's horrible you had to deal with that shit. Hope you're alright now. I think men and women are both terrible. Humans can be the worst species. But women's maleficence seems glossed over by society, and projected onto men while men's failings are highlighted, spotlighted, and demonized in addition. Yup, agree …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:01 AM
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Those are some good doggos. I'm not anti-marriage towards the idea of people pledging themselves to each other, I'm against the government becoming a "third partner" in ones relationship. Regarding a man's wages, they don't matter. I have my own well paying job that pays my living expenses 3x over if I remain frugal. But whether he works as a grocery store cashier, a lawyer, or a carpenter...he should have a strong work ethic. Take pride in your job and do it well, don't be a schlub who does the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:56 AM
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I've tried it by myself and he's not interested in trying. I don't enjoy the feeling personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:42 AM
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What exactly is the "honeymoon phase" to you? Most of the time it seems to mean you're still in the caring + lusting part of a relationship but people usually think it's short term. Is there anything else to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:30 AM
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Who or what would he even be fighting? And don't knock cooking, food is awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:22 AM
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Apologies, only put things I'm into.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:19 AM
2

Well, that's for me personally lol. Facial hair is gross. 😝 But everything else can apply to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:02 AM
3

The ideal bf/husband for a woman is a romantic chef that lives to cook, clean and serve. Can I trade for one that's a nympho instead of "romantic" and doesn't "serve" (whatever that means)? He can still clean while I'm working, and cook 2/3 of the time. Being worth it just means you fulfill the role the other person doesn't like or want to do, plus you enjoy spending time together. Like if I wanted a cohabitating boyfriend I'd want him to either be a "homemaker" or work from home part time while…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:27 AM
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I'm anti-marriage unless children are involved, but for an LTR there's definitely some traits to look for. Takes responsibility for his words/actions, is dependable/doesn't forget to do things he said he would, shares a similar sense of humor, has empathy for other people and animals. He has to be kind, intelligent though not necessarily educated, have a good work ethic even if it's just a minimum wage job, share at least half your hobbies, is hygienic, and very important, have a similar libido …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:10 AM
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I don't believe looks are objective for 95% of the population. It's subjective the majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:53 PM
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Sorry, dearheart. Already have a FWB 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:11 PM
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Nobody worth listening to says this. Looks are still very important, for most people it's what initially gets you on their radar. Personality comes next, it's what keeps you in a relationship. The idea that women don't care about looks/mainly care about personality is completely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:40 PM
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One of many uses, dear. 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 08:53 PM
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Dude, I own a copy of the Kama Sutra. It's got way more than 5 positions lol. Plus you're not even counting using things like dildos for double penetration, vibrating cockrings, floggers, restraints, anal beads, prostate massagers, cock pumps, strap ons...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 08:48 PM
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Right? If someone prefers the other stuff, cool, but it sounds like a bunch of problems imo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 08:41 PM
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I absolutely do NOT want traditional men. They're the exact opposite of everything I look for in one. I'm an egalitarian and am only attracted to egalitarian or "househusband" men. I'm also anti-marriage, I think it's completely unnecessary unless you have children together. I will not be traditional because I grew up in that lifestyle and it sucked ass. I will never ask a man to be traditional for that same reason. Equality in every aspect of the relationship or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:42 PM
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I don't care about feminist women, or random women from other studies. I only care about my own life and the rights that other people born with my type of genitals have. If most modern women want to go back to living like 1950s housewives they're free to do so, but not if it comes back with the cost of losing rights for those of us who hate that lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:36 PM
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I have a FWB for the last 12 years, I'm not some Ebenezer cat lady lol. And I never said that money or pets would replace a man. My argument is quite obviously that having more rights and a equal partner is 100% better than having less rights and an inherently unequal/dependent partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:31 PM
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Interesting. I wonder why those women acted that way. It seems illogical. Too bad they didn't directly ask them the reasoning behind those responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:28 PM
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It's truth. Pure and simple. I prefer the right to vote vs being "courted". I prefer the ability to hire contractors and handymen to fix my home without needing to be married vs dudes holding the door open. I prefer being able to purchase a car or home by myself without needing a male relative to cosign it vs not having to pay on dates. I prefer having person reproductive rights to use birth control without needing my nonexistent husband's permission vs getting flowers and chocolates. I prefer h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:25 PM
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We're treated better legally by a lot, which is an acceptable price to pay for being treated "poorly" in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:11 PM
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That's why I've been with the same FWB for 12 years. Not worth it to keep trying for random men when you already have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:45 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:44 PM
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That your anecdote isn't any better or worse than mine? Yes. True. That is what everyone should say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:43 PM
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Well, I guess that's your anecdotal account vs my anecdotal account. I would never have sex with and/or date a man who didn't love me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:47 PM
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It's only valuable if you let every other guy wait aswell, if you have sex with man A on the first date, and let man B wait for 10 dates. It's probably stupid to ask this during purge and expect a real answer, but how on earth would B know? I'm coming at this from the perspective of a woman who doesn't want sex right away ever, because I am incapable of being sexually attracted immediately. So while dating in high school and college I made 100% of men wait...none of whom did, so I was a virgin f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:46 PM
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You hate men who love you? Why? Imo unrequited love sucks elephant ass. If you love a man and he doesn't love you back in any way, shape, or form, then you're better off not trying to pursue him. If he loves you but you don't love him back, don't spend time hating him. Just tell him you aren't interested and try to limit your interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:38 PM
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Yeah, unfortunately a lot of the guys (and the few women who posted constantly) were definitely not right in the head. I only hung around for 1 month before noping outta there permanently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:36 PM
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It's not pathetic, but I'd want to shop with him. If he really wants to add 1" for some reason that's fine, I wouldn't care. However when I sold sex toys at a previous job there were 3"-5" ones. Big nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:33 PM
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No idea, never tried anything. I'm high on life, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:30 PM
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Lol no. Completely opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:29 PM
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Get rid if the weird "nurse you when sick" part, and tell me if he's willing to have various types of sex 4-5 times a week. If you do do that, the bald guy is great. Guy on the right is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:28 PM
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I've seen it on other forums and blogs, not on Reddit. It was something that the "GovernmentGetsGirlfriends" dude was a strong proponent of. I actually spoke with him personally over chat years ago...he was the one who said his mother was evil for not fucking him. He told me later on that he didn't hate her anymore but still believed all marriages should be arranged by the men of the household, women shouldn't be allowed to work or live on their own, and that the only job an "insistent" woman sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:26 PM
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Am I a perv since I want sex daily? Don't think the other option applies since I don't want to be picked by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:37 PM
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Nothing. Haven't spoken to my father in 8 years, wouldn't care if my mother was. It's not my place to determine what my parents do with their lives, just like it's not their place to determine mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:34 PM
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My only sexual partner is neither my husband nor a chad, so idk where that leaves this answer. Yes, I've orgasmed from just piv before, pretty frequently. However I need to be on top for physical reasons. Yes, I'm hooked on the feeling of sex with my FWB. It would just be regular friendship if I wasn't lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:31 PM
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Still don't know why people insist that an act of purely hetero sex is "gay" though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:27 PM
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Precisely my point, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:24 PM
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To be fair, it feels dominant in my favor when my guy does it to me. Get an attractive man on his knees? Hell yes 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:23 PM
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For me, they're the same level of enjoyment. I'm only equating that aspect of it, obviously not the ramifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:19 PM
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True, although they could hypothetically be identifying as an incel as the term was originally used. Interestingly, it was coined by a woman and she made the very first incel forum for both women and men who had significant trouble with sex/relationships to talk and support each other. I can agree with that message as I'd be a 35 year old virgin myself if not for my FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:18 PM
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I've never drank bleach, but that sounds as fun as having a kid, doing drugs, and fucking random men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:16 PM
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I'm doing better now than ever in my entire life. I'm 35, emotionally stable and physically fit. Don't need any medications. Debt free, over $16k in savings so far and recently started putting $400 every month into my IRA. Have a nice one bedroom apartment, a decent car, recently got a bigger flat screen TV and am saving up to get a PS4 next month. My FWB is great (as most here know), my guyfriends are wonderful, and my pets are healthy. My job requires long hours/lots of driving but I get to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:13 PM
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Exactly! They aren't one and the same. It's pretty pathetic that random misogynistic comments are usually met with "okay, incel". Like, no. Not all incels are misogynist and not all misogynists are incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:39 PM
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So according to you, he's gay. According to u/gggnnneee, if he didn't agree to butt play he'd also be gay. Is this a case of Schrodingers Gay? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:36 PM
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It certainly can be miserable. I was a virgin until 23, and had/have a very high libido that made it difficult to focus in middle school and high school. Not being able to have your sexual desires met isn't always easy to deal with, especially when you're one of the bullied kids too. I'm glad you didn't become a misogynistic person. It's okay to have unhealthy thoughts now and then, everyone does, but it's best to acknowledge why you're feeling that way and dissect it logically if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:34 PM
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No such thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:29 PM
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Because nobody else has the right to use your organs without your permission. We don't even do that with corpses, it shouldn't be done to living women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:27 PM
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I do actually believe this, no lie. However there's a difference between incels and misogynists. A man who can't get laid no matter what he does is indeed deserving of compassion and empathy. A misogynist who wants to have the government revoke all women's rights and literally force us to either get married or become street beggers to survive can go fuck a dead hippopotamus.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:25 PM
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Luckily I don't have that problem lol. My guy agrees to butt stuff already. What about the other commenter above who gave a hard pass to his girl rimming him? Gay? Or very, very hetero?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:22 PM
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What if it's the opposite? She wants to, but he says no...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:18 PM
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Neither option sounds like a good time tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:16 PM
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Idk what you're talking about, porn is fucking awesome. But for women who don't like it, most of the negativity probably comes from insecurities about their own looks or what they are willing to do in bed. Some even consider it "cheating" which is mind blowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:15 PM
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Yes, or at least I tried to. I used OLD way too much though, and guys can write whatever they want on their profiles in an attempt to find more partners. Doesn't mean they're being truthful about what they want or like. One example is a guy who was pretty okay looking in his pics, probably a 6 or 7. Dressed like a hipster but whatever. His profile said he "enjoyed foods from many cultures". I do too, as long as it's vegetarian, so I hit him up chatting for a bit before asking him out to an aweso…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 09:48 AM
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To be clear I’m not calling you personally disingenuous, just that it’s how I’d feel about it. I know, it's just a sentiment I've heard directed at me specifically a number of times before. At the risk of sounding like Captain Obvious: those things are platonic. True. But it does show I care about the guy, want him to be happy, and am willing to provide for him in other ways until my comfort level is such that I desire him. And platonic love is still enough of an emotional bond that I'd be attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 09:26 AM
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It's difficult to tell because the only one who was around long enough for me to feel desire is my friend of 2 years. But I'm thinking about 2 months of seeing each other a couple times a week would be enough. The trigger is literally just knowing the guy enough to feel safe alone with him in an intimate setting. I think the difference isn't that I want sex specifically with Guy A and not want to act on it. It's that I'm generally horny, and want sex as a form of relief, but I don't feel sexuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 01:16 AM
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Nobody (hopefully) thinks this is their "only" value.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 12:57 AM
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How often do you meet with friends? Usually once week during the school year. We meet on Friday night or Saturday night to play boardgames or RPGs for 6 hours. Most of them are parents, teachers, or both, so during the summer 2-3x a week since their schedules are more flexible. How often to you go to movies, music, museums, dance classes, volunteering? etc etc etc Once a month we go to the movies or game stores because of covid. Previously it was about 3x a month. I also volunteer at my local an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 12:50 AM
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I have never wanted marriage, children, shared finances, or cohabitation. Being a "forever FWB" is awesome for me. However, for women who do want those things, I would recommend not wasting time on hookup sites like tinder. Spend time on sites that actually help to pair up people looking for marriage, join singles groups that focus on healthy relationships and lifestyles. Better themselves so they have something other than looks and sex to bring to the table. Take care of herself (diet, exercise…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 10:06 PM
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They just want girlfriends, my dude. Just like 95% of other straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 09:59 PM
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No...I thought it was what you meant. I wouldn't have taken the time for all those links otherwise. Guess I don't really know which feelings you're talking about? I don't feel the same love for random men as I do for my FWB or guyfriends, no. But if I got to know an individual man and he wasn't an asshole, then sure, I could have those feelings for probably 6 or 7 out of 10. I think 9 is unrealistic, especially if we're talking romantically. I don't think men would be capable of feeling love for…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 04:46 PM
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I never said that a FWB is the same as a spouse, and I know I can't purchase a husband. Slavery is dead for a reason. Not sure why you think I'm comparing a committed LTR to a casual LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 03:34 PM
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Well, that's correct. According to Dunbar's Number an individual can only maintain solid, caring relationships with approximately 150 people. This includes family, partners, friends, neighbors, coworkers, clients, teachers, etc. So it's a lot more than just 80% of the population that men and women can't have real emotions for. However, there is such a thing as agape love that an individual can feel for humanity in general. Some theists refer to this as "godly love" but for atheists like myself w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 03:32 PM
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What on earth are you talking about? $25...? I don't pay my friends to hang out with me lol. And my FWB relationship isn't "cheap". He's my best friend of 14 years, and we've been intimate for 12. It's not as if he's some rando off the street I've never hung out or traveled with before... I acknowledge that casual relationships aren't as common as committed ones, but that doesn't mean our experiences together are cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 03:23 PM
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Lol as far as I know we never dated 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 02:25 PM
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Is this even something anyone is debating? Yes, it's common knowledge that the overwhelming majority of men and women look better prior to age 30 vs after age 30, and both sexes physical appearance will diminish from there. Some people it's quick, other people it's slow, but it still happens. The part that is usually debated about is the weird assertion that women's "sexual market value" plummets immediately after she turns 35, whereas men's "sexual market value" magically rises. Which is just w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 02:24 PM
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They do, but you're still paying them money to pretend to be your girlfriend. It's not real emotions they're feeling for you, which is what most people want. Which is why it's good that women have their own jobs, credit cards, cars, ability to sign contracts, own property, gain inheritance, etc en masse nowadays. Means far fewer men have to necessarily be financially responsible and accountable for their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 02:13 PM
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They're crazy. If she's paying I'll wait as long as she wants. Unless you mean that you still wanted them to be exclusive because that's a big ask. Well then there are a lot of crazy young men out there lol. And no, I understood that my own sexuality shouldn't impede them having other partners. I'm hardly a jealous type, and honestly wouldn't care so long as when we finally had sex he didn't give me stds. Because how incredibly suck that would be, right? First time having sex and the idiot gives…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:25 PM
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So what they want is to be loveeeed and cherisheeeed and they want to be pursueeeeed? Yes, and there's nothing wrong with that. Would you say the incels are miserable because they were born with a female brain? Speaking as someone who actually has gender dysphoria, no, I don't think they have a female structured brain. Although a fair amount of them have pretty significant body image issues, I've yet to see any who want to be female. They are quite happy being male (some of them to the point of …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:11 PM
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I didn't especially want a relationship, at least not a committed one where you live together, make decisions together, combine finances, etc. Never been interested in that, I'm too much of a happy loner for it. There's a reason I haven't wanted "more" from my FWB in over a decade...because friend + sex is perfect. But I did want to have sex. Very badly, in fact. I've always had a high libido and hitting puberty at age 9 meant by the time I was in my late teens, I'd been dealing with it for a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:06 PM
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You don't have any female relatives or friends? Or do you solely mean love in a sexual/romantic way? I experienced male love from my friends as a child (unfortunately not from father or stepfather) and sexual/romantic with my FWB when I was 23 to now. For those of us who are late bloomers in a social sense, it seems very common that we don't find anyone during college and it happens for us more in mid-late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 12:11 PM
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Because as you say, women no longer need men so there's no reason to be in a relationship with them. The reason is you love him and want to be around him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 11:24 AM
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Nope. Most women in the west are either living with their parents or sharing an apartament with a bunch of college classmates, or they are living alone and barely making rent. Those studies about young women out-earning young men don't mean much, because many of the guys who go to college drop out without a college degree, or they work menial jobs, or they simply gave up on life and moved back to their parent's house to play video games all day, and they don't have a job nor are they in the proc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 11:23 AM
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Precisely this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 11:16 AM
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That would probably depend on what you mean by hardship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 11:14 AM
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One reason I might feel aversion to bi women is because they might be correlated with feminist ideology? ...what? Sure there's some political lesbians aka feminists who only date women "because patriarchy" but that's very different than normal bi women. It's a incredibly small percentage of people who can pick their sexuality based on ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 08:07 AM
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My guy reminds me a few times every year that I'm not obligated to be exclusive with him since we're FWB and not committed. He's slowly (verrrry slowly) understanding that I have no real desire to have another sex partner in my life and am content with how things are for the most part. However, I know he'd be happy if I found another man or woman to have sex with now and then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:59 AM
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I'm not tryna impose my views on you, but it hurts because I literally like one girl at a time and if things didn't go good or I lost interest or se rejected me, I'd prolly take like 2-3 months to actually like another girl. The majority of my dates were only first or seconds, with a few making it to date 3-4. But never further than that, so didn't have a chance to have feelings for an individual other than "he's okay to be around". I'm kind and friendly, and people are drawn to that, but it tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:50 AM
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Most incels don't want to use the services of sex workers because it's just sex, and that's not what they're looking for. The name "incel" isn't entirely accurate because it was never about the act of having sex, it's about the act of sex with a woman who actively desires you as a person. Some of these dudes do actually use prostitution, but still consider themselves incels since they've never had sex without paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:01 AM
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I only dated one guy at a time...too much work to juggle school + job + numerous dates...but don't see an issue with this. Most of the dudes I went on dates with either said in their profile or remarked that they were already seeing other women too. Always knew I was just one option amongst a sea of other women. If you're honest about it and don't string your dates along or use them, it's just reality at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:53 AM
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Yeah, didn't think you specifically had, no worries there. I was just preemptively warding off the people who may try and say I'm a tradcon or against people having unmarried sex. You'd think the fact I've had a FWB for over a decade would show I don't care about marriage as a prerequisite for sexytimes, but...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:44 AM
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Because I spent 4 years (18-22) going on dates in an attempt to find a partner, and unfortunately couldn't find a man who would be willing to wait past date 3 or 4 for sex. Like a handful of other men and women here, I can tell when someone is physically attractive but I don't experience sexual attraction/any desire for them until getting to know them, which takes a couple months. Hookups/ONS are not something makes sense to me...how can you want sex with a person you just met and know nothing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:29 AM
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Nobody is pretending that. The point is it's common for people to protect those they care about. Aside from wars, it is likely a parent protecting their child that happens most often.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:14 AM
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It was a joke, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:11 AM
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Online dating is generally trash, I agree. Never had any luck with it the 4 years I tried, unfortunately a waste of time. Meeting people organically is much better. But my original comment was a joke, obviously. It's enjoyable saying weird stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:05 AM
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I don't know who those guys are, but I'll take your word for it. I like thicc/heavy set men myself, and am not hetero. Don't think "Chad" is how men see themselves either, especially in this section of the internet lol. Chad is essentially the boogeyman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 12:50 AM
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Ah, yes. I've heard tell of him too. King Chad, of the Thundercock lineage. Able to impregnate women with merely a glance, and has an omnipresent schlong. He is literally fucking everyone's girlfriend and wife, all of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 12:30 AM
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Having a degree and job doesn't mean you're financially well off. Or have you missed the news of the past 6 years talking about how many people are graduating with massive debt, needing to move back with their parents, unable to get hired in their degree field, can't afford healthcare, and living paycheck to paycheck? Perhaps you were one of the fortunate few to be 25 and have a good job with benefits, vacation time, and a decent income. Unfortunately most are not that lucky. I'm 35, and it has …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 11:43 PM
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Could try, but it's far less likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 11:28 PM
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Depends on what they want out of life. You have a 40 yr old man who wants kids? He's going to pick the 25 year old because it'll be easier for her to get pregnant and recuperate from it. That is logical. But he doesn't want kids and is looking for a partner to travel with, buy a house with, and who has enough of her own savings that she can contribute just as much as him? He's going to choose the 35 year old. That is logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 11:23 PM
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That's inaccurate. You could say that a percentage do, and that number would be up for debate, but it is not 90% much less 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 10:52 PM
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And I got punched, kicked, and shoved into a locker by a school bully for standing in front of one of my male friends, who was the original target. People generally protect those they have caring relationships with. Not sure why it's surprising?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 08:05 PM
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Do you think this normalization of casual sex among women has made it harder for you to find a partner? Yes, it did. Do you believe that sexism against women would decrease if sex were had exclusively in committed relationships? Lol, no. Sexism against both sexes will always exist. If you have engaged in casual sex or slept with men without their commitment, did you do it because you thought that this is what you were supposed to do for the relationship to progress? No. I've stayed in my casual …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:42 PM
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I already don't want my male friends and FWB to put themselves in danger for me though...They shouldn't, they have lives, and relatives, and other people who love them and wouldn't want them to be hurt either. My safety isn't so paramount that I'd feel okay putting them in a bad situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:38 PM
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Yeah, never experienced that. The closest thing that's ever happened is my FWB said something...don't even remember what, it was just some phrase. But the tone, speed, and way he said it was exactly the same as my stepfather, who abused me for 7 years, would say it. I automatically felt nauseous, and terrified, and ran from the room. It was an automatic flight reaction. My guy came in and comforted me, asked me what was wrong, and he apologized after I explained it. This was back in my early 20s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:32 PM
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I'd say you should "next" men who don't see you as an entire person and only think you have value when you're young, sure. Just like a man should "next" women who don't value him as a whole person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:21 PM
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Strategies?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:30 PM
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Yeah, but couldn't they...idk. Go to more public places and send out physical/body language indicators of interest. I'm honestly not sure how it works if you're not doing the asking out and it's not online where someone just asks it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:19 PM
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Well, then I stand corrected and our species has no hope. We may as well fall into the sun.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 05:50 PM
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It's certainly worth it to bring up in discussions. I mean, of all the dates I went on, I asked out the majority of dudes. Obviously most women aren't masculine, and aren't going to do that, but if they want to win they gotta play somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 05:49 PM
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Do they think the Magical Date Platypus is going to fly through their window and sprinkle man attraction glitter over them while sleeping?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 05:26 PM
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I prefer to act more masculine, because it's natural for me. Women, and men, should act whatever way they wish. If that means going with traditional gender roles, cool. If that means using the opposite gender roles, awesome. A mixture of the two? Crazy, I like it. How it will impact her really depends on her type of job, what her partner is like/what kind of partner she wants, and whatever friends she makes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 05:12 PM
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What do you think are the male expectations that fit better with extroversion? Do you think there are any that fit with introversion? Curious because I've never heard of ex/in being sex specific before. It's always been loud boys/loud girls vs quiet boys/quiet girls for me. It's interesting to see that some...maybe a bunch...of people see it as far more divided.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:19 PM
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Extroversion isn't masculine and introversion isn't feminine though...It is just what kind of mental energy you have. Also, anyone can pretend to be the other type. For example, I work in sales and manage a large geographic territory. To do this successfully, I have to force myself to be extroverted and put my energy out for clients constantly. My FWB is extroverted, but as an elementary school teacher he can't be as wild or energetic as he naturally is, because the kids wouldn't respect him or …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:10 PM
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I'm just going based off myself and the other introverted friends and acquaintances I know. Some are certainly going to be different than I describe, but it's generalizations. Idk about that. As long as you're an attractive woman, or even just a woman, your chances of getting laid are still very good. Sure, if unmarried men meet you and deign to stay with you long enough that they become sexually attractive...which doesn't happen often. Almost never. Unfortunately nowadays it really is all about…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:02 PM
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Lol this is definitely going to happen. However, to be serious for a minute, I tend to think introverts need extroverts and vice versa. Like I'm the introvert in my relationship, and my guy is the extrovert. Our personalities are complementary, and makes both of us more well-rounded.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 01:56 PM
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Introverts have small social circles, aren't putting themselves out there, don't leave their home as often, aren't going to clubs/bars/other busy places. As I said before, even I...a pleasant, somewhat attractive woman...would be a 35 year old virgin if left to my own devices and attempts at dating. If my social circle was as small as some introvert men I know, I'd have never gotten laid. As a woman with all male friends, I at least had a small chance at catching the eye of an unmarried friend. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 01:47 PM
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Sure, that's pretty likely. I have numerous experiences like that too, ranging from getting catcalled by random town guys when I was 11-14, to being groped by the seniors in the hallways at school as a 7th grader, having adult men and women try to approach me at the mall when I was 15-16 and openly make comments about my body, not to mention the years of sexual abuse from my stepfather. Believe me, I've lots of negative and hurtful memories of times when people older than me thought it was alrig…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 11:31 AM
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Women would compromise more on their boxes if they were hornier. No, we would just have a drawer full of sex toys. Source: me as a ridiculously horny teen/early 20s when I was failing heavily at dating. Why not finally legalize prostitution and stop making sex workers afraid of being jailed?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 10:05 AM
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As I said elsewhere, I had a crush on a 40yo woman when I was 24, and being reminded of that just hammered home how absurd any notion of a power imbalance, or her manipulating or grooming me, is. Now we wait for all the people who love double standards to say "but Cim is a guuuuurl, that makes it baaaaad". This is one of the most common issues with our society (talking about the US here). Male sexuality is seen as predatory, older, forceful, in control...female sexuality is victimized, younger, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:55 AM
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Thank you, but I'm sure there's a few others. It's just more difficult to find us now that FDS has overrun a lot of the threads lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:29 AM
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I think it's because those people are mentally immature and can't imagine that someone their same age may not be. Which isn't an insult, different people do mature at various rates and 24 year old A might only have the maturity of a 17 year old...but 24 year old B might have the maturity of a 30 year old. This is not an inherently bad thing, it simply means different life experiences and responsibilities have given B more maturity than A, and they're better equipped to do certain things. Some ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:28 AM
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I wish it was only those 2 groups, because that would be perfectly fine. People have opinions and they don't have to line up with anyone else's. We can disagree but remain polite to each other. Unfortunately there are indeed people, usually other women, who will say cruel or disgusting things about my relationship and other age gap relationships. This has happened irl as well as online. In this very sub, in fact, there were 3 FDS women who tried to tell me that my FWB is a molester, groomer, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:19 AM
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My FWB and I were taking a walk just last week, and he said that if we hadn't met, I'd still be a virgin. And I couldn't even be upset because he's 99% right...in all likelihood, I would have kept going on failed dates until I was 25 and then stopped altogether. Just bought a bunch of sex toys and learned to be content with normal friendships. Why? Precisely because it's stressful for no payoff, and I'm too comfortable alone. Not totally of course, I still keep in contact with parts of my family…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:06 AM
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I agree that you do need some experience "adulting" prior to getting into a relationship or having kids. Why do you only go to work and home? I can understand not having close family, same here, but that's why I'm so close to my guyfriends. Friends are the family you choose, after all! Have you considered going places that align with your interests and hobbies, so you can make friends and gain that relationship experience naturally? Like if you're into carpentry, you could join your local Habita…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 08:30 AM
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Lol mgtow doesn't mean they have to go live in the mountains with no internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 08:12 AM
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Sorry! Clean-shaven is just much preferred for kissing and sex. No offense intended towards facially hairy bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 08:10 AM
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Presumably this is because one's 20s are...for most people...a time of figuring out oneself. Many are out on their own for the first time, which can be discombobulating if not slightly scary. Gone are the days we'd have structure and mandatory socializing in grade school, now college or work puts us in a completely new and disjointed territory. Friends begin to drift apart, move, lose touch. It can often seem everyone else has a relationship other than you, which obviously is untrue, yet our min…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 12:29 AM
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He is already. See the flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 12:21 AM
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Could always adopt a slightly older kid/kids too. There's many children who need stable, loving homes and if having your own related ones isn't possible, you can still have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 12:19 AM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 11:14 PM
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Women are you attracted to those men? No, but none are my type and most have facial hair which is a -1 or -2 for me...it's one of the few features I can't get over disliking. Part of the problem may also be their pictures aren't as good. They could be better looking irl and just aren't photogenic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 10:16 PM
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The picture that pops up first is a beautiful man. He's not even my type, and I can still see he's physically attractive...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 10:14 PM
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Except that it is weird, at least a little, to have sex with the same woman your friend did. Makes things awkward, I'd think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 10:10 PM
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I could only understand it from a true disgust factor. Like finding out your man raped someone, or is secretly a murderer, or took part in animal abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 08:39 PM
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This should really say: It’s unwise for women to invest in romantic relationships with men if the man in question doesn't believe his partner is valuable past age 30. Because that's really what this comes down to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 07:50 PM
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What? No, exact opposite. I actually said this to someone 3 posts ago...I'm not interested in doing hookups but even if I was, it would be the most vanilla, normal sex known to humanity. Can't imagine doing anything kinky or vulnerable with a complete stranger, sounds incredibly dangerous. How would I be assured he actually gives a fuck about my safewords, my pleasure, my physical and mental safety? My FWB on the other hand? Hell yeah, we do lots of adventurous and kinky shit. Why? Because he's …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 07:48 PM
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A big part of it was maturing, but also leaving the environment itself and growing a backbone. When you aren't beaten down verbally, gaslit, and molested every week anymore, you can finally begin to heal. And once you've healed, you won't allow yourself be hurt again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 07:08 PM
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Oh, I know. But it's painful to one's brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 06:34 PM
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Love you too, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 06:30 PM
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If you do, hopefully you'll post here!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 06:23 PM
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That has to be one of the most retarded things ever. Sounds like a parody, too dumb to be real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 06:23 PM
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Precisely. But I just had a conversation with a guy who says it doesn't matter if the woman is sexually attracted to a rich guy or not, the only thing that matters is she's willing to fuck him to obtain money/cars/whatever. Which is certainly true in those cases! But totally different conversation than what poppy is saying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 02:55 PM
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I just don't see the distinguishing difference in the results between the nuanced point you all are making here. Because no woman is masturbating to the thought of swimming in a gold coin filled tower a la Scrooge Mcduck lol. But there's lots of men who believe we do, and also believe that they are doomed to be FA just because they're not wealthy. Thus, talking about how this is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 02:31 PM
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It's irrelevant. It's not. The point of this post is that money, resources, etc aren't sexually attractive. Yes, there are women who will act as prostitutes and give sex for cars or resources. Nobody is denying that. What we're saying is those women aren't getting horny for the guy giving them that stuff, any more than an average sex worker is horny for her customer. If you're dating women who only want you for money, that does suck and hopefully you can find one in your social circle who doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:54 PM
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Sure, she wants it to be hers. She may be willing to become his gf or fuck him so she can drive it herself or so he'll buy her one. But if you think that's the same as her feeling burning, horny desire for his dick, I have bad news for you...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:32 PM
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I'm never married, guess automod? Best man imo is purple/egalitarian (which surprises precisely 0 people, most likely). Not blue or red, not traditional or even semi-trad. Just a dude who treats me as an equal and we play to our personal strengths to better each other's lives, regardless of gender stereotypes. I did date some trad guys when I was younger, and grew up in a tradcon household. Experiences were undeniably suck, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:16 PM
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Lol no, I haven't. But that's still not sexual attraction. That's her being excited she gets to be in an expensive vehicle, for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:13 PM
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It's not always the guy's fault. Some women really do be crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:49 PM
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"Women are wonderful, you go girls with your non-materialism!" Could be wrong, but I don't think u/poppy_blu believes that most women are non-materialistic. She's saying that knowing a dude has money doesn't make him sexually attractive, because sexual attraction is all about looks. It may make him financially attractive but that's RMV, not SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:44 PM
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Not sure what relationship fatigue is. Boredom? Like bored with her life? That's not his fault. Slipping into "beta" behavior? Would need some examples but if your partner starts to drastically change in personality that can be worrying...probably not break up though, I think most people would just want their partner to talk to them about it. Attractive man at work is mere eye candy, not worth losing a good longterm relationship over. If there's a bunch of things that add up over time, sure. One…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:11 PM
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Can't change your mind, because I agree with this 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 11:56 AM
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I remember reading one user's comment here about how women can lose attraction and dump a man for doing some random thing that reminds her of an ex. I think it would depend on the action. Leaving his socks on the floor next to the hamper? Almost certainly not. Never doing the dishes, even when she's traveling for work? Juvenile, but likely not a deal breaker. Gaslighting her and making her question her sanity? Fuck yeah, don't put up with abuse. So if a woman saw her man at a certain light and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 11:53 AM
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Ive heard of women literally dumping their boyfriend because one day they caught him in the wrong light at the wrong angle and "I've never been able to get over how his chin looked in that moment and now its all I see..." Lol. What in the fresh fuck is that crap? This is peak stupidity. The overwhelming majority of women wouldn't dump their boyfriend for such a mentally deficient reason. So habits, looks, the way we speak and act....frame....do we as men, especially in LTR's, have a much narrowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 11:07 AM
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You can have someone who is masculine and caring, or masculine and abrasive, but not all 3. Why would you want an abrasive partner anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 10:57 AM
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I don't think you'd come across as a creep just by asking a woman out randomly. Creeps do things like abject staring, leering, making comments about your body, mimicking sex acts with their hands, negging, and invading your personal space. You were just thinking of asking someone out = not creepy. However, I think it's good that you didn't, partially because you were sitting so close to each other. If she had turned you down for further conversation, it would have made things more awkward and te…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 10:12 AM
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Did you make a post about it I could find in your history? That sounds really interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 10:03 AM
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For a select few, maybe. There weren't enough bosses for it to be a good method of mate finding. Even today there aren't, and some bosses are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:47 AM
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Sounds like an adult Disney movie lol. Very unrealistic. Might as well rely on winning the lottery instead of saving for retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:34 AM
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It has, PPD/FDS women think they're slick by hiding their posts on there profiles thinking we cant find out, when all you have to do is go to their comments lmao. Isn't it impossible to hide posts? Also, PPD and FDS aren't inherently the same thing. All FDS women that comment here are necessarily PPD since they are in this sub. But not all women who comment in PPD are from FDS or agree with it. That is why women are the sub-species lol. I didn't realize you were a misanthrope. Don't like the hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:32 AM
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Have you spoken to any of the mgtow or childfree men and women here? I agree that the "purpose" of life in general is continuation, but we are under no obligation to do it as individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:26 AM
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Not all of us. There's plenty of men and women in this sub alone who have no desire to reproduce. When your goal is to avoid procreation entirely its rather unlikely that any of your actions will be towards it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:23 AM
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True, there are quite a number of misandrists around nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:21 AM
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I'm going to agree with u/Ladyofblades here. Despite what Disney movies and fairytales want you to believe, princes and wealthy nobles aren't going around marrying farm girls or coal women. They're marrying princesses and noble ladies. Same thing today. I do well for myself financially and am upper middle class as a single person but no millionaire would ever date someone of my financial level. We would simply never cross paths, we don't inhabit the same social circles whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:20 AM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:13 AM
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If she makes enough to successfully become part of an entirely new social status (going from middle class to upper class) then it does become significantly more likely, sure. But that just has to do with the majority of people dating and marrying within their level.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:13 AM
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Most of my friends would agree with you. Although not all of them have a college degree, so that part isn't as important. It's more about career and intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:10 AM
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So then you're the exact opposite of my comment, not an example of it. You haven't spent your entire life attempting to get a partner by any means you could think of, you've spent it being competitive in the business world and accumulating finances. My comment was about men (or women, even) who make finding a partner their goal in life to the point they don't do or say anything that would jeopardize it. They live for the idea of finding their "other half" and thus never become a full person them…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:09 AM
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ASPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 08:48 AM
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How much do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 08:47 AM
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mostly FDSers Damn, has the sub been overrun that much? I thought they were still only about 15-20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:51 AM
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It was common in the Jehovah Witness church my family attended for 4 years growing up. I imagine it's amongst other traditionalist/religious conservatives too, where the man wants a wife who makes significantly less than him, since his role is to be leader and breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:48 AM
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Ah, thank you. Missed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:41 AM
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What's the difference between a RP man and a "RP man" exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:26 AM
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And it's a stupid point. If two people are equal on 99 factors, but better one the 100th one, then of course, that gives them the edge. Not "of course". There's men who would say they prefer the low wage woman, ones who prefer the higher earner, and there's many men who have said that wages don't matter to men as a whole at all. My point was for the latter men to understand that the former men exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:25 AM
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It doesn't sound like your only goal in life was to get a partner, or that you didn't enjoy/experience pride and stability from your accomplishments though. What did you do to try and find a partner? I have been single my entire life so by now it is literally all I know. I wouldn't have a clue what to do with a girlfriend assuming I would even want one by now. You may not, and that's valid too. Nobody has to have a partner. But as for what to do with a girlfriend? Literally anything you both lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:19 AM
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Yeah, I'm thinking that's where some of the miscommunication amongst other conversations/commenters is stemming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:20 AM
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Who would you say is their equal in the sexual marketplace?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:18 AM
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Do you think that due to the type of discussions we have/the type of women who stay in PPD, that there's more of us here who chose the last option?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:16 AM
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Yeah, the amount of men who would do that is extremely small. That's why my hypothetical says everything else is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:14 AM
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What do you think the other 2 are?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:10 AM
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Most = ?%
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:04 AM
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If both were equally kind, equally feminine, equally good-looking, then sure, I'll take the high-earning one. This was my point. A better question is: what are men more willing to compromise on - her femininity, or her income? That's going to depend on the dude. Some men only want feminine women, some men only want masculine ones, most are good with a mixture of traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:12 PM
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For girls and women who don't know any better and go through an "asshole phase", yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:47 PM
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Being highly physically attractive doesn't excuse having a shit personality though.... I've tried telling certain PPD men this, and am told this is inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:33 PM
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that they value the friendship and totally uninterested in sex. The only one that is correct in some cases is this one. Everything else is completely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:28 PM
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Flee while you can, new dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:26 PM
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Thankfully not all men are like this! Can you imagine dating someone who's only goal in life is to find a partner? And the majority of things they do and choices they make are solely dedicated to that instead of actually enjoying life? This is why I have respect for the non-misogynistic mgtow I've met here. At least they live for themselves, not to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:24 PM
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All other traits being equal sure, but that's never the case. In life you have to give something up to get something else. It's called a hypothetical question. Not supposed to reflect the intricacies of real life. A career means she may not have had time for as many hobbies, and certainly with having time to be creative, or to do volunteering. Sure, you don't have as much time for stuff you enjoy when you have a career. But that goes for both sexes. 24x7 = 168 and I work 50 hours a week. That st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:11 PM
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Oh, come on. "All" actions? Not every single thing a woman does is about finding a mate. Going on vacation doesn't. Going grocery shopping doesn't. Learning to play a new boardgame doesn't. Taking my nephews out for ice cream doesn't. Taking online classes so I can open a b&m store next year also doesn't. Getting to know "high status" people doesn't mean anything if you either already have a man or aren't interested in having one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:56 PM
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You do get the feeling that some male commenters truly believe everything a woman does is to attract men 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:45 PM
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...being sarcastic?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:41 PM
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I'm not sure that's true in every case. I've asked my guyfriends before if...all other traits being equal...they prefer a woman who earns $25k vs a woman who earns $75k and all of them have said they'd prefer the higher earning woman. Reasons ranged from "she's probably more educated" to "it's easier to pay bills together" to "a higher double income makes it easier to afford children". Even my FWB says that he wouldn't date a woman who only makes minimum wage. Anecdotal evidence, of course, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:40 PM
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I'll go first; women believing that being a dominant, boss chick with a high-level of career success, makes them more attractive to men is a blue pill mentality. Some women certainly do believe that, but don't the majority simply not care if it makes them more attractive or not? Like, most women who are doing well in our careers/financial lives aren't doing it to attract men, we're doing it because we know more money = better retirement and housing stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:15 PM
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And it's fine if he says he really doesn't know. But he can give a real response, whereas none of us can.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 04:14 PM
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Selecting purely on looks is not a good route That's what I'm saying. Don't use looks as your foundation for a relationship, but use it for preferences so you are attracted to your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 04:13 PM
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Exactly. This is the reason most incels I've spoken to don't really care about legalizing prostitution, because it's just sex. The majority of them want a woman who actually cares about them, not just be willing to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:23 PM
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It's possible to love a man that you don't get any money, resources, or status from so long as their personality is complementary and they're attractive to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:21 PM
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A friendship between men and women isn’t a thing. What on earth? No, this is inaccurate. For some men and women, sure. There's always people who don't want friends of the opposite sex. But it's not like there's no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:16 PM
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They can do this. Men are just as emotionally complex as women, they just tend to show it differently. I've seen all of my friends cry, vent, be frustrated, get really angry, be ecstatic, lose and gain hope, have depressive thoughts, etc. And even though I'm the only female of the group, I'm not even the most outwardly emotional one since I'm autistic and introverted. They support each other and openly talk about their issues, and we all give sympathy and solutions when possible. Are there other…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 02:34 PM
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and what that is is not subject to change is wrong. Correct, which is why I said it's potentially going to change in the following months.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 02:25 PM
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Men make fantastic friends. Throughout my entire life, the majority of my friends have been men/boys, and for the past 6 years or so I've only had male friends. (Not saying women can't be good friends, I've just not had much luck personally...but someday I may have a good female friend too!) The fact that I happen to be born with a vulva doesn't mean my friends rely on me for emotional support or to "fix their loneliness". They already have other friends outside our group, wives/girlfriends, cow…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:21 PM
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Slut shaming is not limiting anyone’s rights. Who's talking about slut shaming? OP seems to be referring to social enforcement of matrimony. Men are shamed for being sexless, for watching porn or hiring prostitutes where that is legal. Yes, and this is sexist as well, and shouldn't be tolerated either. Men and women are allowed to dislike these things, of course. Personal preferences and opinions are valid. But men shouldn't be shamed for their life choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:14 PM
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Oh sure. And yes, women who've been pregnant before have an easier time as they age vs someone who's first trying to conceive after 35. One is much better chance! Stars above, I wish that at my age it was impossible lol. But unfortunately not. Thankfully my FWB is vasectomized and I've "given him my prime years" as RP would say, so no pregnancy scares ever. But I do feel sorry for those who wanted kids and are not able.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:49 PM
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Exactly. Looks always fade, not a good basis for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:45 PM
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True. I think the difference is really just a casual relationship vs a committed relationship, which basically comes down to an expectation to eventually share/combine finances and cohabitate for one and not the other. Also if I took his advice and sought out more partners, it would be looked down on as cheating vs not cheating since we're not committed as society deems it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:45 PM
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It's the general trend of society to see male sexuality as inherently animalistic/predatory/degenerate and unworthy of thought. While female sexuality is 'pure', seeking for 'real meaning, passion, connection, romance'. 100%. Society is both misandric and misogynistic simultaneously, which is terrible for everyone. It can make innocent males suspected of perversion for no reason, and also makes it difficult for victims of female predators to receive help or be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:54 AM
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Who do you think is typical vs exceptional? Both the groups I spoke of above are typical, depending on what area of my state you're in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:49 AM
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True, but that's why I mentioned like-minded groups. There's numerous subcultures in the US alone, and each one is compromised of individuals who want the same things and generally agree on most topics. The cultural policies of secular liberal men don't line up with religious conservative men for example, but yes, both subcultures could work on prioritizing happiness for their men. It just wouldn't work for every man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:43 AM
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they live a lifestyle where a woman has to really bring something to it beyond looking pretty. This should be every man's lifestyle, regardless of age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:36 AM
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You can't prioritize "gender's" happiness. Gender is a person's trait, not a person itself. An individual or like-minded group can work to prioritize their happiness though. Like how RP tries to prioritize men's happiness, although it doesn't appeal to the entire gender. Or how FDS tries to prioritize women's happiness, but it also doesn't appeal to the entire gender. You'll never make everyone happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:19 AM
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If you go around "demanding" marriage, you'll be single forever anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:10 AM
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I agree, that is a common problem. However this specific OP doesn't seem to be saying that men's issues aren't as important as women's. Rather he's pointing out that the way to solve men's problems isn't to limit women's rights, since then both sides will be unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:52 AM
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Which brings me to the question: How would you all feel about being with a partner that was intuitive enough to see your inner-most insecurities and was able to pinpoint your flaws? Already have one. I do the same for him. Would you be okay with such a critical partner or would you prefer a less-critical partner to avoid feeling judged and uncomfortable that someone knows you just as well as you do yourself? I think the majority of people would prefer a less critical partner on an emotional leve…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:46 AM
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Ah sorry. No worries. Well FWB's like ONS but I guess less so, are known for weighing physical attributes more highly than personality, status etc. etc. Do you mean FWB or do you mean fuck buddies/booty calls? I agree that fuck buddies and ONS lean heavily towards purely looks, but that's because it's all about sex. Never had either, I'm not interested in casual sex/hookups, but as I understand it the only time you spend together is having sex, then one of you leaves. You don't make plans outsid…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:31 AM
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Lol no. Where on earth did you hear that? Women’s fertility doesn't start to slightly drop until late 20s/early 30s, and the biggest initial decline is after age 35. You need to add at minimum 5 years to your number there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:13 AM
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I mean, if he already told her "I'm not ready for a relationship" then he does have some idea of what his current emotional state is. Still a better idea to ask the individual directly, rather than strangers on the internet who never met him. Sure, what he wants is subject to change. Maybe he's not ready for a relationship today, but in a month or two he will be. Or a year from now. That's not a bad thing. It shows he's growing and healing as a person, not remaining stagnant in his thoughts. Peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:09 AM
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Sperm really doesn’t diminish until mid 40’s Uh, exactly. That's why I said it doesn't make sense for people to wait until they are 40 and older. It doesn't matter if an individual male's sperm starts degrading at 42 or 45...why take the risk? And women aren't inherently done at 40, the ability to get pregnant only stops once you hit menopause. That's typically late 40s-early 50s. Difficulty getting pregnant starts in the mid 30s and gets harder from there, yes. But unfortunately not impossible,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:01 AM
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If that's how you want to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:58 PM
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Not necessarily. It could be that he's just not ready for a relationship as of right now. Maybe he'll never be. Maybe it's just with you. Only he knows, and reading between the lines is a really bad way to figure out what he means. Just ask him, not us lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:55 PM
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Some are, yes. So are some men. Not all of us though. Not sure what the point is?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:52 PM
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I had a friend who's dad was 62...it does happen, I just don't know why you'd want to be running around after toddlers in your 40s lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:10 PM
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You're welcome, but you didn't answer my question lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:03 PM
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Yes, precisely! And it's not that I don't like tall dudes as people...hell, most of my guyfriends are over 6' and a couple of them are 6'4". I'm not afraid of them or anything, we share hotel rooms and car rides, but they're way too tall to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:02 PM
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No it's all good. You're fine. We just use the term friends with benefits because that's what we are. We aren't boyfriend/girlfriend because we have no plans on living together or sharing finances or meeting each other's families. He's my best friend and we have sex a few times a month...ergo, FWB. We are exclusive yes, although even now he reminds me a few times a year that I don't have to be lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:00 PM
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No special reason. It's just that neither of us wants kids and we both believe that marriage is for when people are going to have them.. There really isn't any reason to get married otherwise. So being close friends that sometimes have sex is our best relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 09:24 PM
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Interesting in an FWB relationship in particular How so? why would you prefer it if he were shorter? I just like being the taller partner. Personal preference based on disliking guys who are too tall/looming.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:50 PM
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Unfortunately the report didn't differentiate between types of debt. It would have been interesting to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:03 PM
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Just watch how women act around hot dudes. They go completely dumb, laugh at his unfunny jokes, try to get as close to him as possible...Those are the guys they have the best sex in life with. Maybe, maybe not. I've only had my 1 partner so don't know what sex with anyone else is like as of yet. However, the weird flirting and fake laughing that some girls and young women do around conventionally attractive men is rather nauseating. I agree with you that they act dumb. There's no guarantee that …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 03:06 PM
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Poor time management, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:47 PM
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My point is - to make sure I am sexually desirable first of all. Because that's the most important thing. Everything else comes after. Well, of course. Looks gets you through the door, personality lets you stay. Most people do settle eventually after realizing they will never be able to get what they ACTUALLY WANT. Because in many, not all, cases your 100% ideal partner doesn't exist. Or if they do, you'll spend your entire life seeking them out and miss someone else who's really great right in …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:46 PM
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I mean for people who did it on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:37 PM
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Thank you! I hope you'll be able to train yourself to do otherwise. I used to freeze as well, but changed that over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:36 PM
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I'm just going based off of what I look for in a man as a potential partner, and what my guyfriends and male coworkers are like as individuals, the overwhelming majority of whom are either married for many years or in longterm relationships like me. So yes, I was thinking of men I personally know...watch what they do, women married/have stayed with them. And you are correct that attraction matters but nobody in my social circle is above a 7, so it's not like anyone is a super model or young, hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:22 PM
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Exactly. Though why you would wait until 40 or older to have children is beyond me. Think of it...18 years for them to graduate high school. You're attending their graduation at 58 years old? And that's if you only have 1 precisely at 40! Your youngest might graduate when you're 65, and now you are grandparent age without any grandkids. Never understood why some people wait that long on purpose to reproduce, especially since both sperm and eggs start to degrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:15 PM
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Becoming healthier and/or stronger is rarely a bad thing, and yes there's plenty of women who like fit or muscular men so it'll improve one's chances with that group. However, my point was that most men don't have a great job, so they don't have the resources to attract women who would be into money/material items. But they can and hopefully do bring other things to the table like being a good conversationalist, having similar hobbies or goals, complementary personality, ability to cook well, go…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:37 PM
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Since women insist on having men with only 2-3 years of age gap, how would they feel about dating men with only 2-3 inches or even 2-3 cms of height gap? The age range you're talking about seems to be a preference, not an insistence. According to a 2017 US population survey: Husband 20+ years older than wife 1% Husband 15–19 years older than wife 1.6% Husband 10–14 years older than wife 5% Husband 6–9 years older than wife 11.2% Husband 4–5 years older than wife 12.8% Husband 2–3 years older tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:30 PM
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Oh, I definitely agree. But it's surprising how many women and men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:32 AM
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Most men don't really have the exceptional careers that would make them more attractive in their 30s This. You still see a lot of RP talk about how men in their 30s and 40s have these great jobs, with nice cars, a house, a fat 401k...but most don't. The current US millennial (age 25-40) has an average salary of $48,000 and an average debt of $87,000. Typical net worth of people in my age bracket is $8,000 and most won't be debt free until their late 40s. Combine this with the fact 22% of millenn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:31 AM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 09:43 AM
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Hmm. It's changed a bit over the years. I remember the feuds between various RP and "married RP" blogs 10-15 years ago. Damn, but most red guys came down hard on how dumb/traitorous they thought the married ones were lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:48 AM
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Ah, okay. Makes a lot more sense now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:45 AM
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This doesn't even revolve around the type of content, but if you have a guest over (friend or partner) don't you ask them what they want to watch? Or you've already discussed it in your plans for the evening? Like if my FWB is coming over to my place for dinner, I'll say something like "want to watch the newest episode of Bad Batch" and he'll say "sure" or "I've already seen it but could watch again". Or we'll discuss a movie to watch so I already have it on stream. It's kinda blowing my mind th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:35 AM
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Wouldn't the RP you watch say to never put a ring on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:26 AM
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It was just a joke, didn't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:23 AM
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This actually sounds like a fun time. Lots of good discussion content that's important between partners. Do we get "bonus points" for recommending episodes we've already watched, or suggesting other creators? I'm not RP myself, but there's things about both red and blue sides I agree with, and some RP content on YouTube is entertaining...even if I think a few of the guests are kinda sad or just hamming it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:21 AM
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Yes, love is definitely worth it. Doesn't even have to be romantic or intimate love though, which is what most answers seem to be focusing on. Love for your friends can be just as powerful in its own way. Even if you don't have a partner of some kind, and aren't close to your family, love from and towards friends can also be highly cherished. We're a social species and the majority of us need some kind of love to remain healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:17 AM
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I don't see anything he's saying as threatening, but damn is it sad. Like, he seems to have no backbone or solid opinions of his own. He reminds me of the "yes man" in corporate companies...just there to agree with everything the boss says. I get the feeling he'd bend over backwards to pretend everything a woman says is true. She could say "grass is orange" and he'd spout some gibberish about certain types of unique light refraction trying to agree with her. No, dude. Stop. Use your own brain. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:08 AM
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I wouldn't consider porn to be a form of social media. It's more like entertainment, watching a movie where you already know the people are getting paid to look and act a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:57 AM
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Why's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:55 AM
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True, didn't even think of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:53 AM
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I agree that women should be held to the exact same standards as men, in all aspects of society. However I'd prefer that to mean men and women alike don't get hit during arguments. Of course if a woman throws the first punch, the man is free to defend himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 12:16 AM
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I didn't realize I was one of the undead, but that's pretty cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:02 PM
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I do not think that escalating from a verbal altercation to a physical fight is right or permissible. Words are words...slapping, punching, throwing things is another entirely. Interestingly, over the years I've seen a lot of men on various RP blogs talk about how, if a woman verbally assaults/insults a man, she should be prepared to get punched or thrown on the ground. When I and others pointed out this would mean the man is throwing the first punch and escalating the fight, we were told "that …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 10:58 PM
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I'm not a trans man unfortunately. I've never taken hormones or gotten surgery to change my outer body from female to male looking. I'm transgender, in that when I think of myself I don't think of a woman, but I'm not transsexual and nobody confuses me for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 09:42 PM
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So...then what would less than average men be? I've not yet heard that I don't exist either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:01 PM
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I'm sympathetic to this view, and I'm sorry it's been your experience so far. Fwiw, I grew up taught that the only "good" emotion for a woman to have is happiness. Sadness was to be kept inside and dealt with when you're alone. Frustration was unladylike. Anger is not something a woman should express. And children are to be seen, not heard. I do agree that men are told this in harsher ways and for longer periods of time than women are, at least outside of conservative religious communities. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:57 PM
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I'm a rural person living in an area with more chickens and cows than humans lol. I don't really want to give people attention, they just give me theirs anyway so I "have to" listen. Apparently I have a "friendly face".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:02 PM
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So...same thing as last night, I'm not saying this about myself. I've never felt unsexy. Imo if my FWB agrees to have sex with me and I get him hard then obviously I'm sexy enough. Once again, I'm just explaining what other people are trying to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:59 PM
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Oh yeah. Didn't realize you'd meant a sudden hookup. I'd refuse that as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:57 PM
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You can tell someone they are handsome or beautiful every day you see them. If they have low self-esteem at that time, it doesn't matter. They aren't going to believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:45 PM
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Why would you refuse, even with security and recordings?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:43 PM
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You probably are! People just...always talk to me. I have no frickin clue why. I'll be in the grocery store, literally just getting milk and apples. Grab something down for someone shorter than me, or elderly, or in a cast, etc. All of a sudden I've got a new "friend" walking around with me telling their life story. Young people too! I'm just unfortunately approachable. Please take some of it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:38 PM
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I don't think anyone would say that's incorrect though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:29 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:27 PM
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Either way it sounds like the pain from being ignored outweighed any effect that might've had on your attraction and that you liked him enough anyway in the first place. Correct. Living with it for years from my relatives really did a number on my mental health, among other things. I do remember you leaving a comment recently saying that you're almost always the one to initiate sex and check if he's up for it, so it sounds like there might still be some kind of imbalance (although sounds like yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:20 PM
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Which is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:20 PM
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Sorry, but I still disagree with you completely. It can also just mean a more ethereal "social status" like in the invisible status hierarchy (like how everyone in school knows who the "popular" kids are). When someone likes you less than you like them, it can make you feel like they're above you in that hierarchy. Yes, I know this is a thing. It is shit, imo. I would never be with someone I thought was "higher" than me, no matter if it's real status or "invisible" status. I'm just not into powe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:17 PM
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But I'm turned off by men who are higher status than me. I enjoy being the provider in my relationships and can't do that if he makes significantly more or has more power. Given all our similarities, I think I'm slightly higher "value" than my FWB. Although it feels gross to say that because he's my equal as a person. Being ignored didn't trigger any attraction. It made me cry and wonder wtf I had managed to do wrong already. Made me feel like a total failure as a human and want to jump in front…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:54 PM
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This will probably sound horribly cliché, so apologies ahead of time. If she loves you and truly enjoys being your partner, it doesn't matter if a literal Adonis hits on her. She may admire his body for its beauty, the same as you would an attractive woman, but it won't matter. You compete by being her best partner, not by being the hottest, wealthiest, or highest status. I know people are going to say my advice doesn't count because I've only had a longterm FWB. That's fine. But I've been appro…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:45 PM
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Don't know why you're huffing and puffing, my dude. It's just a word that describes a type of sexuality. My ideal physically attractive man would be white or Asian, my height (5'7") or slightly shorter, clear skin, few wrinkles, good teeth but not "perfect"/weirdly bleached. Short hair, clean-shaven, slightly overweight/dadbod. Age range of 30-50.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:39 PM
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I don't think I can answer that the way you're expecting. I'm demisexual, which means I don't experience sexual attraction/desire to fuck another person until I know them well. So I'm fully capable of seeing when a man is physically attractive but I won't want to fuck him until we've spent a decent amount of time together. If you want to know what makes me want to orgasm, that's entirely different. I'm horny everyday and masturbate accordingly in the morning so I'm not physically frustrated (aka…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:15 PM
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Thanks for reading it, I know it was long lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:33 PM
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Perhaps some do. Obviously others don't. I admit to not understanding the idea of going with what feels familiar if it causes you pain. In my experience it means you run from what you know, because even an unknown situation that has the potential to be better is far, far preferable to that which you know will continue to harm you. When I left home abruptly in 11th grade, I only had a part-time job, some clothes, my pets, my phone (paid for by me), and my shitty old car (purchased by me). I only …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:32 PM
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I have links and studies showing it is not a myth too. Unfortunately I think it will be a number of years before medical science can be certain of anything related to the human brain and its various structures. In the meantime, I'm going to be supportive of my fellow transgender men and women, and hope that society comes to understand we just want to live as normally as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:07 PM
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Fair enough. I don't understand how we can constantly have these discussions but so many men and women remain convinced the other side is lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:04 PM
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Doubtful. I just displayed quite a lot of it. When ones spends a significant amount of time in self-reflection and dissecting why they think or feel certain ways, it leads to a lot of self awareness indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:03 PM
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I disagree. Unthinking lust is irrational, attraction is not. Or even if it is for some, it's not necessarily so. All of our thoughts are controlled by chemicals of course, but that obviously doesn't mean there isn't reason behind why X is attractive to one person but unattractive to another. For example, I'm slightly revolted by muscular or very fit men. This is because I was bullied constantly by the jocks and gym rats all throughout middle and high school. My brain automatically sees men with…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:57 PM
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Why do you think attraction is irrational? I can tell you precisely why I'm attracted to the things I like, and why I am not for the things I don't like. Emotions certainly can be irrational, but in my experience attraction is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:41 PM
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It can be, although not always. When I'm obviously in the middle of doing something in a rush, or am on the phone wigh family/friends but the guy keeps trying to get me to hang up...yes, that's rude and annoying. But if I'm at the gas station just pumping my tank, and the guy filling his car next to me says "hey mama, looking good in them shorts" that's perfectly fine. I'll just smile and say thank you, he smiles back, we both get in our cars and carry on with our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:39 PM
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That's why I try to give compliments to random people. Not enough are given out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:32 PM
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Lol what? How can someone not know what they are attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:30 PM
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If money, looks, status arent what attracts women like blue pillers would have you believe than what does? Who ever said that we don't care about looks? I'd say it's an incredibly, almost infinitely small amount of women who don't care about looks at all. Imo they're important because I want to be physically attracted to the man I'm eventually going to have sex with. However, maybe the miscommunication is the fact not all women are attracted to the same body type. I am not attracted to fit or mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:27 PM
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I'm assuming by attention you mean romantic attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:55 PM
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I'm about a 7 in looks, and from the ages of 13 to now I'll get asked out or hit on by random men...rarely women too...approx 8 or 9x a month. Like just at the grocery store, farmers market, at work, walking in the park, etc. For an introvert like me who really doesn't want to deal with general humanity, it certainly seems like a lot of attention. However I'm positive that beautiful women get hit on a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:39 PM
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There's nothing wrong with being a masculine woman/tomboy. But they feel at home in their bodies and don't wish they were male. They don't have gender dysphoria, and almost certainly don't have male structured brains. That's the difference between a cis woman who just likes masculine things vs a transgender person like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:33 PM
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Gender roles will always and have always existed. They are only regressive when someone is forced to do the ones they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:17 PM
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I know, but you're assuming these people care...which they don't. Some of them even want us to kill ourselves, or worse, they want the US government to do it for them so they can claim their own hands are "clean".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:58 AM
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Unfortunately terfs and gender critical people see our very existence as "wrong", and many of them are very loud. Traditionalists/pro gender role people would argue we do have a choice to just live unhappily, the same way they say homosexuals have the choice to be in relationships with people they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:42 AM
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If the rule is simply to prevent circlejerking, wouldn't it just be easier to delete posts that are doing so? I mean, I have my sex in my flair but most people don't. I can't imagine it's easy or efficient for the mods to have to go looking through a random member's comment history to figure out if they're male or female, just to see if an otherwise good post should stay up or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:34 AM
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He's talking about how you can be a female sex person but due to hormonal abnormalities while in the womb, your brain grew more as a male structured brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:26 AM
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It is, and I hope more people here watch it. There's a lot of misinformation or outright lies regarding trans people (especially trans women...whereas somehow everybody always forgets about trans men's existence) and it would be great if more cis people just knew about the studies on gender, natal hormones, and brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:21 AM
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Lol I don't think I'm the best person on this sub, and I definitely shouldn't be able to do whatever I want. However I do think that it's a bizarre rule that just because someone is born female they can't ask questions of women, or because someone is born male they can't ask questions of men. Like, what's the point of who asks the question, so long as it abides by all the other reddit and sub rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:17 AM
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i don’t think the human experience in general is as narrow as the pills would suggest. Correct, but you don't even have to be trans for this to apply. The pills necessarily make things into a dichotomy when life rarely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:10 AM
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Damn, you're quick. I was just about to link this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:08 AM
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Is it different than other major cities like NYC and LA?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:59 AM
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Does tinder even run surveys or have a forum the way dating sites do though? Or are you talking about the moderators of tinder putting out the data?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:50 AM
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I have gender dysphoria, and have lived as a masculine person as much as possible without taking hormones, ever since moving out of my parents house in 11th grade. (Very short hair, men's clothing, chest binder at times, use male gender roles when dating or in a relationship) Yes we exist and yes there's a few of us here. However this is undeniably a sub aimed towards only hetero and cis people, even some of its rules. For example, I can't ask Q4W even though I have a bunch of questions about wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:48 AM
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while think women aren't There's nothing supposed to be between "while" and "think"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:37 AM
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Unfortunately I don't think we'll ever have more of the data again, as it's been mostly erased. Unsure if they even did a survey of that particular information, but I really don't think the majority of female messages are only being sent by the 0s and 1s. I'd be a 2.5/3 on that scale and when I did online dating I sent more messages than I received. Never bothered messaging the 5s men though, because it would have been a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:36 AM
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I think you're missing a word?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:27 AM
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Unfortunately most of the posts from that time period have been erased, so it's becoming more difficult to find since you have to search other sites who reported on it. We might never have it fully accessible again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:26 AM
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Sure, for the younger guys that's probably true. I'm not as positive for the ones who look my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:15 AM
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Are men who rate themselves correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:10 AM
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Same. Typically they are 6 or 7, a few 8s, but they think they are 3-4. Body dysmorphia again, methinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:08 AM
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Much like in the other thread going on about types of men (ones who rate themselves too highly vs too low vs just right) it would be good for people to realize there are types of women in those same brackets. When I watch YouTube shows like Aba & Preach, or Fresh & Fit, I'm quite frankly amazed by what the majority of female guests say. Many of them openly talk about doing the things RP warns men about, or as OP said, admit to having a "ho phase" and "bad boy phase". It's almost like listening t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:56 AM
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You're right, I should have said 3. There are the ones who rate themselves accurately.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:36 AM
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I think it was from okcupid. It was interesting because although women rated 80% of men as below average (scored from 1/least attractive to 5/most attractive), they sent the most messages to men ranked as a 2 and it steadily declined from there. Men ranked as 0 got the same number of messages as men ranked 4, and men ranked 5 got barely anything. On the other hand, men ranked women as a dome (slight majority average, with a gentle bell curve in either extreme direction). However, men sent 2/3 of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:06 AM
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A decent portion of men (not the majority...except on reddit) think they have low value, but don't actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:32 AM
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It is important, definitely. I can say that when I was younger I felt that way but life will quickly teach you that lesson. I never felt that way, always been the bullied kid. As I got older (19+) it changed for the better though. Leaving stupid cliches behind does wonders lol. There are very few men outside of the teens/early twenties who still feel like women don't care a lot about looks in men. Which is good, because looks are certainly important to the majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:24 AM
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I think you are probs more vulnerable to existential dread the closer to your 30's you get. Why? I obviously can't speak for anyone else, but my 13 year old self had waaaaay more existential dread, insecurities, lying awake at night worrying about the future, etc. As I've gotten older, life has become so much better, easier, far more enjoyable, and I worry about almost nothing. (I get no matches on tinder because I've never used use such apps and have not used OLD for over a decade.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:13 AM
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You are likely correct about the second group getting bigger. I know that boys have been getting diagnosed with anorexia more often in recent years too. Yes, I know of many more men who think this way vs men who just focus on their looks, but I didn't bring it up since it wasn't the main topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:04 AM
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There's 2 groups of men, in my experience. Ones who rate themselves as too high, like they think they're an awesome, handsome af catch but honestly they are average or just slightly above, like a 6 or 7 at absolute most on a good day. I'd say this is probably about 20-25% of men. Then there's ones who rate themselves too low, to the point I'm convinced some of them would be diagnosed with body dysmorphia. You can find many such men on forever alone/incel subs, where they constantly pick out the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 11:53 PM
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Duality goes brrrr. So much truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 10:23 PM
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Angry Harry came waaaaay before Rollo, and he was much more polite and easy to speak with on the occasions he answered the comments on his blog.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 10:22 PM
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Enlighten me, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:55 PM
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This just in; Comparing yourself to models, celebrities, and people whose job it is to look perfect gives normal men and women inferiority complexes. Aka social media is a form of cancer. In other news, the sun is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 08:56 PM
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I like you, you're very rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 08:53 PM
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You're probably correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 08:52 PM
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The women who would take this type of option need to have 2 specific personality traits (in addition to their unique/personal ones, obviously). They need to both enjoy having and raising children + need to enjoy being taken care of financially by their husband and not contributing to the household expenses. I'm sure this kind of lifestyle appeals to many women who would gladly hang up their jobs forever if it could be guaranteed that they'd be cared for while being sahm. However there have alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:21 PM
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Oooooh. I like this a lot. Still disagree about the hypergamy thing/the idea all or overwhelming majority of women are, but everything sounds pretty legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:13 PM
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Do we grow tusks too, like when a normal pig goes feral? Because that would be pretty cool. Easy to cosplay a WoW troll in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 05:55 PM
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I also wish to know what white pill means.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 05:53 PM
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This is the best response so far, and also extremely fair. 🏆🏆🏆
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 05:20 PM
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Legally no. Maturity wise, it's up to the individual. Some 18 year olds are very mature and have already had to deal with many aspects of adult life, others still live and act like they're 14. Women who are in their late 20s/early 30s are generally looking for men who are the same maturity level. Unfortunately, if you look like you're 10 years younger than you actually are, the automatic assumption...based solely on looks...is you're not the personality or life experience they're seeking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 04:48 PM
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I'm definitely going to ask my sisters how much they have now lol. I suppose cosmetics can really be like a hobby to some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 02:08 PM
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Damn, that's a lot of money. I used to work at a Rite Aid/CVS pharmacy when I was a teen, and that's the only makeup I ever saw the prices for. Most was between $4-6, maybe $9-10 for the limited edition colors. I've never willingly worn cosmetics...my mom would put some of hers on me for holiday pictures and family reunions, which I hated...so figured the prices were roughly the same everywhere. Thought that the expensive stuff, like Ulta or Sephora, was for very fancy people. Like how you could…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 01:51 PM
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Guessing you prefer to go Dutch?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:57 AM
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Depends on the woman, but some of the women with decent jobs have thousands of dollars worth of makeup. Teenagers aren't likely to have that much. Mostly the basics. I'd say hundreds can be typical. Now I'm curious, and will ask my sisters how much they own. They're mostly all the same group, but at different times. Ugh, that's the worst kind of opinion...one that fluctuates based on how beneficial it is to you instead of remaining consistent. See that a lot from both sexes here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:52 AM
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Some women, from what I understand, have hundreds of dollars of makeup and other creams and beauty products for keeping their face blemish and wrinkle free, plus perfume and stuff. Jesus fucking Christ on a pogo stick. I'm going to assume that's not typical? Right. Apparently that depends on the context which is totally decided by them. Probably...hopefully...two different camps of women. One group only wears makeup for men vs the group who wears it because they like it. And the third group wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:30 AM
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Yeah, it's all about how you present yourself. If those guys had said "I've never been here before, mind if I try something I've always wanted to get?" I'd be like please, sure, go ahead! It's always nice to help people get things they would have trouble having otherwise. Like when you pay for someone's car repairs or give to charity. Just feels good knowing you made someone's life better. But entitled bitches...whether male or female...need to move along.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:24 AM
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I would never, ever have a shared bank account. I'm not interested in marriage, but if I was? Still a big no. I have no problem going 50:50 if I were to cohabitate with a partner someday. Hell, I'll be the main breadwinner so long as he keeps our place clean, goes for a walk/exercises a little, and has dinner ready when I get home. But I'm not adding them to any of my bank accounts. I am debt free and have an amazing credit score...it is way too easy for someone to overspend and accidentally eat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:18 AM
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Okay, but how much money does makeup cost? I'm guessing something like $4-6 for most things like foundation, lipstick, blush? Idk it's been a long time since I worked in a grocery as a teen, but I can't imagine even the really high end makeup is more than $10 a piece. Regardless, you constantly hear about how women aren't wearing makeup for men, they're choosing to wear it because they like it. So this Sugarfuzz is either only wearing makeup to attract men, which is her own choice that nobody is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:10 AM
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That's one of the things I looked for in a date when I was still doing so. You probably remember I prefer paying for dates because I like being a provider/it makes me feel useful to the man I'm out with. Of course, if the guy strongly objected and insisted on paying his half, I let him. But there's other guys I went out with who asked, as we were looking at menus, "hey, you're paying, right?". When I affirmed that was my offer, they proceeded to order the most expensive things on the menu plus a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:02 AM
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No. I mean, someone can believe that if they want, but it's a misandric opinion to hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 08:48 AM
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Which also doesn't make sense. Okay, so she puts in effort to look as what she considers her best. And? So what? It's as though she thinks the guy is just throwing on the cleanest shirt from off his floor and walking out the door to meet her. Does she really think men don't wash up, shave, style their hair, pick out nice clothes, and brush their teeth before a date? I'm not sure how anyone can be over 18 years old and believe this, but somehow she has managed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 08:47 AM
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You do know OP is a man, yes? And you are correct, women aren't better than men, we are equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 08:42 AM
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Awww, this was really nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 01:11 AM
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Probably, yeah. Assuming you're a straight guy, looking at another man's ass in all likelihood does nothing for you. Or as you said, it's not attractive to you but is funny sometimes. If you were attracted to the male body like straight and bi women are, or gay and bi men, I'm sure you'd understand. Well, we both enjoy using toys, either ones for couples or sex specific ones on each other. Just fun to try new stuff, y'know? But as for playing with his ass, it's not a power thing. Like, don't get…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 01:08 AM
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Women have a very specific shape which drives men nuts, guy's butts are both repulsive and hilarious which is why seeing a guy's naked ass is always hilarious. To you, sure. To myself and many other women its very sexy. Seeing my guy's naked ass is always arousing, and seeing another guy's isn't arousing since I don't know him but I definitely appreciate the view. Or did you mean to say that straight dudes also enjoy assplay? I mean that some straight or bicurious men enjoy ass play, and also th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:01 AM
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Never heard of this before, and no, of course not. I mean, my own relationship is in its 12th year and he got vasectomized prior to even being my friend, much less my FWB. It's actually a huge part of my mental attraction to him, just knowing it was impossible for him to knock me up. And of course there's other childfree partners here. I'd be a lot more worried (and incredibly turned off) by any man who wanted kids within 2 years of our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:53 PM
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They feel good to grab. They look nice, like how women's butts do. Very fun to play with. Not only gay men enjoy ass sex/toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:50 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/po27x7/women_control_the_entire_relationship_realm_men/hctv9t0?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 I didn't address all their claims, but here's the part I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:47 PM
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Probably because in the US at least, we're still under the thumb of old fashioned puritan ideas of how inherently sexual the human body is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 08:43 PM
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Yeah, I thought I remembered that from one of your previous comments. I've never been married but don't believe in it as a necessity, and I'm the oldest of 7 so have no desire to raise children ever again lol. Is your child old enough that having one doesn't harm your dating prospects? Like I could imagine myself dating a guy who has a kid who's 17 or older since they're basically an adult, but would never with someone who has younglings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 08:39 PM
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It's not a big deal. Many women do eventually want to get hitched, I just don't see a point unless you're wanting children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 08:32 PM
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Well, you're my kind of man lol. I'm not interested in marriage, having kids, splitting finances, etc either. So you're the "right man" for a portion of women. As one who did have to vet without sex, I agree that it takes a long time and is frustrating...but obviously still worth it. After all, it means that any man who enjoys spending time with you as a potential partner without sex in the beginning of your dates is likewise vetting you for more traits. This is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 06:36 PM
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The more men that have this mentality (like myself), the worse it will become for women trying to find the “right guy”. The will be utterly powerless in keeping that “right guy”. What action do you think a modern woman should use to keep a man like you (assuming you believe yourself a "right man")? What action would you think a past woman should have taken?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 06:15 PM
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Telling someone the truth doesn't mean they're going to believe it unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 05:49 PM
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The rise of these types of women was supposed to empower them, but instead robbed them of the power they’ve had since the beginning of time… The power of gatekeeping sex. Women are still gatekeeping sex, it's just that society is no longer doing it on top of that. We're still only going to have sex with the men we want to (whether that's just 1 man forever or 50 men over a lifetime). But in modern day society women are free to enjoy it as they decide, instead of being shamed for even wanting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 05:43 PM
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Oof. That relationship sounds like watching a 12 car pileup...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 05:34 PM
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Lol tell that to other people here. Many think I'm just lying or not actually a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:17 PM
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I did in another comment, because OP seemed interested. And no, they didn't laugh or mock me, they were actually quite polite. Nicer than a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:50 PM
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Exactly. I'm an outlier so my experiences, no matter how long they last, don't count./s Thank you, that is a kind sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:24 PM
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He offers, but I like being the provider because it helps me feel useful. But yes, I understand how doing 50/50 is often preferred.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:23 PM
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Whoever cares less wins. Right. So in my relationship he wins because he cares about sex less. I can't say the same for other people's relationships, but in r/deadbedrooms there do appear to be quite a few other women who have male partners with more sexual power.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:22 PM
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Well, because it's either untrue in her situation, or it's unequal so she refuses to do it. For example, you wrote: Men desire sex much more than they desire relationships (on average), women are the opposite (on average). But who initiates them? Women rarely ever initiate either. To be 100% fair, you did say "on average" and I'd be speaking as a non average then. But I have a stronger and more consistent libido than my FWB. If he's very hungry, or has a headache, or is tired, he won't be in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:19 PM
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It wouldn't be that, because I am a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 02:22 PM
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Yes, which is true. It is anecdotal. But if I mention X and then 10 other commenters agree with it/say that's how their own relationships are, now we have evidence it's not just me. I'm not trying to say OP is completely wrong, because it is a fact there are relationships as he describes. Simply attempting to point out it isn't as inherent to male/female relations as he believes. But again, I've better things to do if it's just dismissed immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 02:22 PM
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To be fair, I call out FDS stuff too. Two sides of the same coin imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 02:16 PM
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I never said it was, and that's why I didn't waste my time writing it out if people are just going to say "outliers" don't count for shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 02:15 PM
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That's fair, and usually how it goes. Fwiw, I'm a masculine woman and don't care about "chads" or "alphas" or money, etc. My FWB is slightly feminine/doesn't care about gender roles and is one of the few men that enjoys being taken out and having me pay for our "dates". So I'm pretty sure if I was a feminine woman who wanted marriage/children/provider stuff I'd have left long ago. But I just want good sex and friendship so this is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 02:14 PM
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Thank you 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 02:06 PM
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So before I spend time commenting, are you actually open to hearing individual accounts that contradict these claims? Or is your response just going to be "outliers exist" and "exceptions prove the rule" and dismiss it entirely?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 01:03 PM
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I'm attracted to genuine smiles, bigger/thicc guys, and nice asses. If a guy smiles at me, I'll nod and smile back. If a guy is a "bear", I'll give him a full body look up and down. And if a guy with a nice butt walks by or bends over in front on me, I will definitely steal a bunch of glances. Never stare or leer, I'm not a creep. I'm just admiring the view of a nice body. Very happy with my own guy and would still turn them down politely if they approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 01:00 PM
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Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:07 AM
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Oh no. I really hope she doesn't waste anymore time chasing fairytales. Were they ever actually friends? Because if they were, he should lay down the fact he's never going to commit, so she eventually gets the message.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:55 AM
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Did he though? If he knew she wanted one and kept stringing her along with comments about maybe being committed at a later date, then yes. He knew he had a simp and milked her for sex and money for years. But from the way her friend here is telling it, they were FWB for 6 years prior to her popping the question...if that was the first time she mentioned going from FWB to bf/gf, then that's on her. I'd say 2-3 years in she should have made her intentions known. I'd say the same if the sexes were …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:52 AM
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Fwiw, he didn't make her do anything. I've been with my FWB for longer than her, and I'm well aware that something could happen in either of our lives that would end the sexual part of our friendship. If she actually wanted a committed relationship she shouldn't have kept going with her FWB, but that was definitely her choice to not end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:20 AM
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Jesus Christ...I've been with mine for double that time and still wouldn't do any of that stuff. Is she alright mentally? In other areas of life? Because she obviously is downright obsessed with this guy, and if she's this extreme in her emotions in other ways, that's really concerning. How did she even meet him if he's 5 frickin hours away?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:15 AM
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That's correct
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:02 AM
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No worries! As you can see from my original comment, the overwhelming majority of people don't remember that it's a valid possibility either. Then again, how many demisexual people do you know? Other than myself I can only think of 2 more here. It's not as if our type of sexuality is common.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 11:59 PM
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Yup, I remember that and have used it in 80% of my life. It's led to a lot of contentment with things that I couldn't possibly change at the time and acceptance of things that are good enough/don't need to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 11:15 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 10:46 PM
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Fuck, man, sometimes I think it's the intro song for my first 20 years of life lol. But yes, it does resonate here quite a bit. Here is the actual PPD theme song though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 10:27 PM
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Thank the fucking stars, a man in PPD with standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 10:24 PM
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🎶I strive, strive, strive, to get everything done I've played by all the rules, but i've very rarely won I've smiled, i've charmed, i've wooed and laughed, alas to no avail I've run round like a moron, to unequivocally fail!🎶
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 10:19 PM
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Okay, but I don't care. Just because other people find it attractive doesn't mean I must also.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 10:14 PM
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Thank you 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 10:00 PM
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Yes, as u/1witty_username pointed out, we were friends first. We hung out on a weekly basis for just over 2 years before adding sex to our friendship. So it worked out really well!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 09:59 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 09:55 PM
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I tried dating, both online and irl, from the time I was 18 until 22. Unfortunately I'm demisexual so while I see men as being attractive physically (like I can tell who is good looking or not, in my opinion) it takes me a few months to experience sexual attraction. So 99% of guys I dated thought I was being a cock tease or stringing them along since I wouldn't have sex within the first 3-4 dates...despite the fact I had this listed in my bio and I was very upfront with it so nobody was blindsid…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 07:13 PM
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It's the hair, actually. Facial hair is really gross imo. Automatic -1 or -2.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 06:15 PM
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Well, I disagree with your position but appreciate the fact you're consistent and not hypocritical. Don't see that as often here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 04:22 PM
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My guy and I enjoy watching it together, watching it alone, or sharing links with each other to stuff we recently viewed. Sometimes during sex he'll talk about what he's searched for recently and want to try it, which is pretty fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 04:21 PM
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Are you okay with your gf or wife telling you she's not okay with you watching porn too? Would you abide by her wishes for you to never watch it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 04:18 PM
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"wow, you have a vibrator? that's hot!" Sorry, I just had to laugh at this because it's such a common toy to have. It'd be like getting excited knowing your partner owns a microwave 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 04:15 PM
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It's okay, I don't mind giving a more detailed explanation of what I meant. I'm autistic and have been told by many women that the way I write comes off as aggressive/assertive most of the time. So if that's how it sounded i apologize too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 04:12 PM
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What do these toxic women think if their bf or husband refuses to allow erotica in the house?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 04:10 PM
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Idk, maybe that's more individual then. My FWB gets off to erotica really easily. He's actually the one who gave me a link of 4 different story websites he uses lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 04:09 PM
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Idk, I'm always willing to give the benefit of the doubt and 98% of the time I don't believe in porn addiction. As someone who enjoys watching it, I've gotten flak from both women and men. Most of the time I think "addiction" isn't accurate or being used as a scare word. But in her accounting of everything it sounds like a true addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 04:04 PM
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Then I guess I really am a "man" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 03:51 PM
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Watching porn can screw with your sex life as well as being potentially psychologically detrimental Sure, if you get addicted to it or forget it's essentially a movie. ethics in the porn industry are so bad that chances are you're watching rape That's part of the reason I only watch amateur or homemade stuff online. You can also become very reliant on porn which can affect the quality of masturbating without. It's hardly like you NUST watch porn if you're not having sex anyway, it's a choice you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 03:50 PM
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Whoa. Sounds like a real, honest to goodness case of actual porn addiction. Plus some fetishization, which is unfortunate. I'm sorry your partner got into that mindset and hopefully he got therapeutic help, and you weren't harmed by it too much. I know your trying to understand it better but asking if he did most of the work is a punch to heart for most people who dated sex addicts. A common topic for partners is do not become a “porn star” if you do not want to. Many times after discovering the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:30 PM
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Sure, people can, but that doesn't mean it works well for everyone. I'm aware that I don't necessarily need porn or erotica to successfully masturbate but it makes it much easier, quicker, and is far more pleasurable/intense. I'd compare it to eating a cold 5 pc of Chicken Mcnuggets vs eating a freshly made chicken sandwich. Yes both are food but I know which one I'd choose every time if given the option. I'm not sure what you mean by healthier or ethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:17 PM
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Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:11 PM
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Okay, but what is the typical underlying reason for it? My thought process goes like this "I like penis. My FWB likes vagina but has tried penis and isn't opposed to it. Ergo, we can both agree on some level that penis is okay." Maybe it's because I'm not cis/don't equate genitals to gender, but there doesn't seem to be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 01:23 PM
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Hmmm. That's fair to a point. Over the last 12 years, my FWB has said that sometimes. Basically he just wants a quick release and doesn't want to wait for me to drive to his place, so either he watches on his own or we Skype and watch together. But I'd say that's only happened 8 times? Maybe 9? It's not typical. If it became commonplace, I'd have a discussion about why the porn is preferable. Is he watching something niche that he knows you won't be into? Is he having erection trouble and doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:54 PM
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What was his reason for declining sex and watching porn instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:42 PM
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Thank you, I appreciate that. I don't see your comments as often but we usually end up agreeing on most topics. You're a good mod too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:41 PM
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I've heard from a few women that they think it's cheating or adultery, but don't agree. I do wonder if they'd think the same way if he was reading instead of watching.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:40 PM
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Everyone is an individual, but when I comment on this sub, I’m mostly identifying patterns, not absolutes. True, I just didn't know if you had information from somewhere that this actually is a male vs female trait. Also, aren’t you more masculine-wired than not? I recall you saying that before. That could be an actual physiological thing that makes your experience in many cases align more with the male experience? Yes, but people tend to either say I'm "virtue signaling" or "have internalized m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:37 PM
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Yeah, I don't think it's right to shame people for their preferences. However it is healthy to figure out why that's a preference so you understand yourself better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:32 PM
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So then it makes even less sense, right? If your partner isn't in the mood for sex, but you're horny, then you shouldn't try to force them into something. Just go take care of it with your own hand and a video. If I tell my guy "hey, let's have sex" and he's not in the mood (before anyone says "no man would decline sex!!!" yes this has happened a number of times over the years, men aren't always horny) then I'm going to just go rub one out with a spicy story or sexy video. Maybe he'll end up joi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:29 PM
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But why is she not attracted to bi men? I understand if a certain woman is turned off by twink or femboy bi men, but there's plenty of masc bi men in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:22 PM
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I'm unsure if that's necessarily a male vs female thing, it may be more of an individual thing. Like I can successfully masturbate using just my fantasies/memories, but it's not as good and takes a hell of a lot longer to do than if I'm watching porn or reading erotica. Having the external stimulus of viewing/reading a particular scene makes everything much quicker, easier, and more intense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:19 PM
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Lack of communication. If your partner doesn't know you're open to having sex and/or you frequently shoot down their advances, then of course they will use the next option. Why is the one person "lying in bed feeling horrible/lonely" while their SO watches porn in the other room? If you're wanting sex and it seems that's what your partner is wanting too...just...go in the room and get it on. Like, wtf is going on here? Start rubbing their shoulders, ask what they're watching, kiss their neck, ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:06 PM
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I've seen it on a lot of black dudes and a handful of white dudes. I'm not a fan of any facial hair on a man regardless, but gotta say this looks dumb af in my opinion. It's like a neckbeard who won't commit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 11:57 AM
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That's why one of my prerequisites for anyone I dated, male or female, to share my sense of humor. They don't have to be into gallows humor as much or make self-deprecating jokes like I do but they should understand/appreciate why it appeals to me. People say sense of humor isn't an important trait but I wholeheartedly disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 11:54 AM
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Ha! I saw that original comment too. Hoo boy. Such a short sentence, so much to unpack.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 11:49 AM
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I've heard this before from other bisexual/bicurious men and it really is true...99% of cis straight women are, for whatever reason, revolted by the idea of men loving other men + women. Yet they don't seem to have the same level of disgust for gay men. Which honestly, makes less sense. It leads me to believe the issue isn't actually the fact some men sex other men, but rather that some men sex both. It's as if the notion your partner's dick may have been sucked off by male as well as female lip…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 11:46 AM
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And yet he has a literal neck/under chin beard and a half-assed mustache...his teeth are so straight and white they look fake too. His smile looks manufactured, it doesn't reach his eyes and is a bit off-putting, like a robot. He's about a 7/10 imo. But yes, he has good skin care, lives in a booming city, has BLM in his bio which is going to automatically attract all the social justice chicks, and has a good job. He's also into working out/sports, which means he's probably extroverted, energetic…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 10:39 AM
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Okay, so I'm going to come at this as if it was my life. I'm the only child of my mother and father, they divorced and both remarried and had children with their new spouses. So I'm the oldest of 7 kids but all of them are half-siblings. I know what it's like growing up in a similar situation. First, we don't know why the dad says it's specifically the one kid's console. Was it given as a birthday present when the parents were still together? Was it purchased by the father alone and given as a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 10:25 AM
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Yes, but just because something is mainstream or popular doesn't mean it should be accepted without dissecting it or calling out inaccuracies. Or laughing at silly things some of its followers say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 09:54 AM
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I come here to laugh at some utterly ridiculous ideas from FDS and TRP, yes. They're both pretty funny. But it was half joking, I also come here for interesting discussion with the people who are up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:01 AM
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They're probably talking about how the gender discussion areas of reddit aren't windows into typical relationships, but rather windows into the relationships that aren't working. Most people with good, loving, working relationships spend 5 minutes here and leave because it's mostly bs. The rest of us are here purely for entertainment. I sometimes tell my FWB about the conversations here and he says it sounds like watching a fiery train accident in written form. He's pretty correct lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:37 PM
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Want to switch brains? I want to be a man, you want to be a woman, some mad scientist wants a Nobel Prize for first double brain transplant. We can def make this work. And you get the bonus of a female body that doesn't get cramps, so huge amount of winning here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:27 PM
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Here you go: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/symptoms-causes/syc-20475255 Glad to know I'm actually a penis-less man who just happens to have tits, a vulva, and can bleed for 4 days every month and not die. Is that a superpower?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:21 PM
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I wish I could be outside LARPing...the group disbanded due to covid and probably won't be getting back into it. I have gender dysphoria if that makes you feel better. I've never gotten a DNA test, for all anyone knows my chromosomes are abnormal/not entirely female or something. But as far as I'm aware I am a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:54 PM
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To be fair, as a woman, when I see some women's lists for expectations of men it is also fatal levels of cringe. I understand both men and women having a handful of preferences...that is normal. But if you have 20 bulletpoints you went beyond normal into "regressed into 15 years old" territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:43 PM
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They don't typically post it on their dating profiles, rather on their Facebook or other social media. I'm definitely not confusing men and women lol...what even.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:35 PM
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I wish it was. Unfortunately they were real. Fwiw, I don't think it's wrong for people to have preferences, I just think that many people are unrealistic in what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:15 PM
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I have had gender dysphoria as long as I can remember. One of my earliest memories is being in kindergarten and telling my grandmother that I want to be a man when I grow up...and that feeling has just never gone away. If magic existed, and I could pay someone my entire net worth to change it so I'd been born male, I wouldn't even hesitate. I don't know why I'm so uncomfortable. It's like looking in a mirror and not seeing yourself. It is incredibly frustrating to be treated like a woman instead…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:13 PM
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Come to the dark side lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:06 PM
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You haven't seen the lists some men make for the women they want to date? I've not only seen both of those but other things like must be size 4, must be part Asian, must always have long hair, must never get above me in salary, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:05 PM
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Thanks, I was hoping you'd comment since we tend to have similar thought processes. I'm just saying, it's the same exact thing, use the same damn word.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:01 PM
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Why? If it doesn't hurt anyone I suppose it's not bad to be selfish, but is the gain worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:50 PM
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I never said men don't settle. Women settle too. But people even settle not in the derogatory way it's used here, but acknowledging simply that while there's someone out there who may check off two or three more points, you're already with a great man/woman. Why should I bother finding a man who fulfills 9 of my 10 mate-points, when I already have spent years with one who fulfills 7 out of 10? Why not just be content with the fruit I can reach up and take, and not spend needless time and energy …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:45 PM
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Yeah, I've seen your name before, knew you are a guy. 😅 And yes, I agree with your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:35 PM
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The thing that drives me crazy about "hypergamy" is that men will say they want a 9/10 woman who fulfills the majority of their desires in a mate...but this is somehow not hypergamous. Like, at all. How dare you even suggest that men wanting the best is hypergamy. Then when a woman says she wants a 9/10 man who fulfills the majority of her desires...now all the finger pointing starts again, claiming this is just yet another example of the "nature" of women. No, they're the same thing. And fwiw, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:08 PM
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Is it really manipulation if there are a steady stream of people who seem to want to be manipulated? Yes. Taking advantage of those who you have power over is immoral. The only exception would be if it's something like a mutually agreed upon bdsm scene/power differential relationship where both people know the deal and people can tap out if they want to and/or openly discuss the power dynamic afterwards. Does this type of behavior have any place in terms of short term fulfillment? There are abso…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 08:57 PM
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If I were a woman I'd definitely have had some people following carrots dangled on strings. Can't relate to the rest of the post, I'm well aware of how much potential power physical attractiveness and sex has over men. However I firmly believe it is not a power to be played around with or misused. I've heard many, many men say exactly what OP does above. Sometimes joking, often serious. But honestly, why would you want to be a bitch? Why would you want to go through life "dangling" the promise o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 08:20 PM
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To make myself look more masculine. I've never been fully comfortable being a woman, I'd much prefer being seen as androgynous or masc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 08:04 PM
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I'm sure it has leeched its way into the general population by now. Honestly makes it worse, now it isn't contained...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 07:00 PM
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Exactly. This is part of the reason a lot of religious teachings are bullshit for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 06:54 PM
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Am I missing something here? I've read your post in full, twice, but although you talk a lot about the supposed confident...actually arrogant or egotistical...guy, you don't seem to describe the doubtful guy as, well, doubtful. Sure, you say he's into reading the paper and knows about tech and history, whatever. What about having interests screams out "I'm doubtful in my own capabilities"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 06:54 PM
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Eww, no. Disgusting. The only times I ever heard that was during religious studies where we were being taught that a wife and children aren't "fully their own" and "the honor they make belongs to the husband, as he is their leader and the public face of the household". It puts a huge burden of necessary responsibility on just the man, that he's personally accountable for everything his family does. It's simultaneously misandric and misogynistic. That deserves some kind of anti-award.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 06:47 PM
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According to Harvard Medical, as well as other medical/hormone related sites, high T does lead to oily skin and acne, along with other health problems. https://www.health.harvard.edu/drugs-and-medications/testosterone--what-it-does-and-doesnt-do *Problems associated with abnormally high testosterone levels in men include: Low sperm counts, shrinking of the testicles and impotence Heart muscle damage and increased risk of heart attack Prostate enlargement with difficulty urinating Liver disease A…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 06:43 PM
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It wouldn't have been anyway. I'm a monogamous minded person. No congratulations necessary for basic nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 06:38 PM
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I was told by one of my elder relatives that if you don't share a bank account you are saying you don't actually love a man...I told him, no, it means you just don't want to be unexpectedly broke!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:55 PM
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Right? I don't wear feminine clothes but he's got it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:49 PM
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I never said anything about cats for that reason lol. Male dogs do indeed help raise their offspring, at least the golden retrievers, labradors, and newfoundlands my family members breed. The fathers are very protective of the young pups, will pick them up and carry them away from danger, break up fights, one of them even grabs kibble in his mouth and drops in front of his kids when they're crated in the playpen. I'm willing to believe that not all male dogs do this, but I know for a 100% fact t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:48 PM
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But most social animals (dogs, birds, primates) have fathers that stay around and help care for the offspring, at least for the initial years. I'd say it's instinctual for a father to bond with his offspring, there's a reason holding babies...even of other species, like puppies and kittens...gives the majority of men and women oxytocin.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:33 PM
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Yes! Some questions should be asked very early on to help determine if you're even compatible. Like, I don't care about income level, he could work at a minimum wage job for all it matters. But I have a 827 credit score that I worked hard to get...if his is 640 and he has a spending problem, we're never sharing a bank account lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:20 PM
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Ah, okays
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:45 PM
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That sounds like a better idea!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:10 PM
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True, but it is definitely barren lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:53 PM
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I'm sorry it didn't, but I have to say don't take hormones unless you're really sure. I've debated taking T for years, but decided that short hair, male clothes, and a chest binder was enough. Only do as much as you're comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:52 PM
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Oh, I know. Here's the field where I grow my Fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:50 PM
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a trans woman would be her perfect partner because she has the beauty of a woman coupled with a penis for penetrative sex. I said this to my FWB (cis male) and he laughed. But I was like "dude, tits + cock = sounds like best combination since peanut butter and jelly" 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:47 PM
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Damn, you fine. Awesome legs, a man who can rock a skirt is chef's kiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:44 PM
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Shhh. We have to pretend it's some big revelation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:42 PM
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You don't like porn, I take it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:41 PM
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Okay, sure. I agree that some men and women are sluts/have lots of hookups. But that's not the majority of us. I mean, the first time I had sex I was 23 and he'sstillmy only lover. Not every woman is like me, of course not, but the average seems to hover between 7-10 partners, not something huge like idk, 30 or 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:18 PM
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Women's love distribution is similar to capitalism, whereas men's is like social democracy. How do you reach this conclusion? Like what experiences have you had that give anecdotal evidence for your belief of it? People settle, what's new? My point was that it's rarely a case of women saying)as you said) "chad or stay single". Most do not live like this, even if they wish they had the sexual pull to. Are you saying there are women who prefer short, balding, fat guys over their counterparts? Damn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 02:43 PM
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I can appreciate that. Guess it doesn't really matter to me since the Christian tradcon culture I grew up in never sat well with me, and I chucked it off when I moved out in 11th grade. In my area I don't see our general American culture dying out so it doesn't give me a feeling of sadness or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 02:35 PM
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I've been in a casual relationship since I was 23, so completely understand where you're coming from. Once people like us start to date again, it'll be interesting to see how we fare.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 02:32 PM
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Glad to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 02:31 PM
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Do you have trouble finding people who are also childfree and uninterested in marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:40 PM
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We are hardly going extinct anytime soon with 7 billion humans and counting. Plus all 6 of my younger siblings plan on having/already have 2 kids each so believe me, my specific genes aren't necessary whatsoever. There have always been men and women who refuse to procreate. You can see it hasn't stopped our growth as a species.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:39 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:00 PM
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I never understood half the things in that "book" when I first read it 16 years ago. Now I understand them better but still don't agree with the majority of it. When I dated, I thought of the guy's past and future equally. What was he like in his younger years, how has he grown since then, does he have any trauma that would make our relationship difficult or impossible, did he ever have stds or has baby mamas? Does he have realistic life goals, is he childfree like me, what are his thoughts abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 12:58 PM
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I mean, people here have called me a "cat lady" (which excuse you guys, I have parrots, not cats 😁) for turning 36 and never being married or reproducing...so idk. I do know I'm waaaaay happier than my mom ever has been or probably will be. As for 50+ year old cat ladies vs my 50+ year old self-sacrificing mom, they are equal levels of mental health. Being halfway through life and realizing you fucked up/lived according to other people's wishes isn't good for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 12:47 PM
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Idk, my dude. My mother is a traditionalist, antifeminist, and did a lot of self-sacrificing for us. I mean, she's 54 and has never voted in her life because she thinks "women don't belong in politics". Currently she's absolutely miserable and holds a lot of resentment towards my 6 younger siblings. The only reason she's not resentful towards me is because I'm the oldest and acted as a pseudo-parent/helped her for most of my "childhood". Ironically...or maybe not...it's from watching how my trad…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 12:04 PM
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Shit. Thankfully only the first thing on that list applies to me and I've gotten therapy for it. Most of those are harmful to their partners/other relationships though and can be controlled, stopped, or fixed. It really sucks that you've met women who act in such deplorable ways and hopefully you're okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:45 AM
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No i am talking about date with sex obviously. Even if there's no sex he'll leave his mark on her anyways. Okay, I've never had sex after only knowing someone for a few weeks, much less hours, so wasn't thinking of that. But still, pair bonding in primates isn't that quick. Sure, she can be attracted to him, but if she learns he was hit by a car and killed the next day she's not going to be mentally distraught and inconsolable for months the way she would if her partner of 5 years dies. At most …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:39 AM
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Not sure where you're going with this. I said that if a guy doesn't find a partner by the time he's 30, he's screwed in the US. I didn't say anything about guys in their 20s at all. I mentioned it because you said "Unless he's tall and good-looking, a guy in his 30s will not be able to date a woman in her 20s". So I was pointing out that people could start dating in their same age range, which will be easier. Do you think that this is a common enough occurrence to be worth discussing at all? Yes…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:01 AM
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Are they at fault? Like, are some of them extremely picky or have unrealistic expectations, or are they all pretty level headed and just have bad luck in dating? I've seen both.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:43 AM
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1 is enough, 1 date is all it takes. 1 date? So not even anything sexual? Damn, the red pill beliefs are getting pretty extreme nowadays. You do realize that actual pair bonding in primates isn't something that can be formed in a 2 hour dinner or walk in a park, yes? Maybe a minority of them who have access to multiple women. This is nonsensical. If a woman can, according to you and assuming you're not trolling which is always a possibility, fall completely and totally in love with a random guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:39 AM
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Interesting. Have they said what makes it more difficult? For example, lack of communication, ghosting, weird prerequisites, different goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:26 AM
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Seems a bit too black and white. Life, and humanity, is rarely so easily divided up. What about a guy in his 20s dating a woman in her 20s, rather than having a potentially significant age gap? (Note that I'm not belittling people who are in intergenerational relationships, my own guy is 15 years my senior. It's just that most women aren't interested in dating someone much older.) What about a woman who is 30 and a widow because her husband of 8+ years was killed in war/died in a car crash/etc? …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:25 AM
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Most women are alpha widowed or thier pair bonding abilities ruined by the time they reach 25 25 is so young though...How many "alphas" could one woman possibly meet to have their "pair bonding" ruined at that age? How many men are similarly ruined and unable to "pair bond"? (You can probably tell I don't believe in pair bonding the way RP typically describes it, but I'm willing to operate under the hypothetical of it being real for this discussion.) some can find an extraordinary men of their d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:12 AM
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I was thinking of casual/unmarried relationships, but yeah, being single is a good choice for people too! It's important to do what you want, not what society or your family dictates is "correct".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:56 AM
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For women, late twenties is when it starts to get hard. How so? I haven't dated since I was 23, so honestly curious, especially if you have direct experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:37 AM
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Now I'm imagining someone coming out with an Acorns For Kids app...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:33 AM
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Or sometimes we never look for it. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:30 AM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:29 AM
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This is a good answer. If having children is important to you, try to find a partner before age 35, for both of you. If it's not, and you know you don't want kids ever, it opens up so many more possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:26 AM
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What do you mean by "fantasy relationship"? Remembering what high school was like, in terms of not only my own mental/emotional/physical maturity but also that of my peers and how they acted, I can't say that's the foundation for a healthy adult relationship. I mean, during middle school and high school most boys (other than my small nerd friend group) either ignored me completely or bullied me. There were maybe 5 boys in my entire grade I'd have considered dating, if I was interested in doing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:23 AM
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When you're in college you're still (for most people) out on your own for the first time and still figuring out what you want out of life. If you only get a bachelor's degree, you're done by the time you're 22...you really think the majority of young men and women are going to be "snatched up" by then? You believe that men and women who are 28+ aren't worth dating? Seems like an arbitrary number.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:11 AM
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Everything about this comment is true. Take my upvote and fake awards. 🏆🥇🎉🏅🎯
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:03 AM
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Why is 30 the magic number for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:01 AM
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As someone who had not just an abusive father, but also stepfather, I want to point out that this is only good advice if her past has made her bitter/angry/sexist towards men. This isn't the case for all of us though. I can say that, by living with examples of horrible men, it made it that much easier to seek out friendships and relationships with boys/men who were the exact opposite. When you see what shit behaviors/personalities look like at home, you quickly learn to avoid it in all other asp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 08:51 AM
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When you're dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 08:36 AM
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A good partner is someone you can love and respect, who likewise loves and respects you back. Best chance of finding a good partner is in social circles/hobby groups where you'll share the majority of your basic values + things you enjoy doing together. Red pill posts are true regarding some women, but not 100%. Remember "ewalt" = enough women are like that. Stay away from the hypergamous ones and your life will be better. As my flair says, I'm egalitarian. Completely in favor of real equality i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:57 AM
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Cool. Okay, so my guyfriends and I meet up at one of our homes once a week to play boardgames/D&D/Shadowrun. Once or twice a month we go to the movies ...like we just saw Free Guy last week and next week we're seeing Shang-Chi. I've been to microbreweries/small local outdoor bars, but I hate loud noises, crowds, and weird lighting so haven't been to "real" bars or clubs. As my flair says, I'm 35F. Never married, childfree, longterm FWB. Live in upstate NY, or "almost Canada" according to people …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:37 AM
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u/SKY_ACTIV3 what do you consider a night out? Just anything you don't stay at home for? Or specifically going out to nightclubs?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 10:39 PM
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Agreed. Although I'd argue that everyone should care about their physical, mental, and emotional health. Of course, I don't actually assume the worst of anybody at any time, because living in fear 24/7 sounds paranoid and objectively terrible. But I understand a little why other men and women do. I do the opposite...everyone starts off as neutral, then I add or subtract from there depending on how they act towards me or other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:34 PM
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Sure, just like you can't tell the men who are misogynistic, dark triad, or bipolar from the outset, so it's safest to assume it's all men. I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:19 PM
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This is a type of question I have rarely ever seen here. It seems very focused on looks but when it comes down to it, and the looks are there, how would you as a woman feel about a guy who has a very timid personality? Depends on what you mean by timid. If he's just shy, passive, and doesn't want to take charge in our potential relationship, that's cool. I can definitely see myself with that kind of man. If you mean he's a doormat and bows to stronger opinions, even one's he knows are incorrect,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:16 PM
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Only if you think all of us act this way, which obviously we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:06 PM
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I am! I've seen people talk about money, height, muscles, general body type, cars, status, career, penis size, if he wants kids...lots of stuff. But not specifically ambition. So, learn something new everyday. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:25 PM
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I have honestly never heard of "ambition" as something women are supposed to find attractive. I'm guessing they mean like...motivated to complete a personal goal? Or maybe a work goal? Not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:16 PM
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I personally as a guy have no sense about social status about people around me. At most I notice some people are more or less popular but its much less pronounced than highschool. I notice people's status more than that, just have no reason to care. But yes, status is unfortunately big in the US. Politicians, celebrities, show hosts, TV stars, just regular people who happen to be rich or beautiful. Doesn't mean they're inherently worth knowing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:59 PM
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That's fair. I was thinking of either going to different restaurants (which my guy and I did often before covid) where you can pick separate meals. Or the times we do cook, we are both in the kitchen making similar things. Like if we make spaghetti I'll take my portion of noodles and sauce, then he'll put in the precooked ground beef. Or for the grill he'll have normal hot dogs and burgers, my veggie dogs and burgers will cook at same time. Or if we're making Chinese food I'll cook the veggies a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:56 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:57 PM
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It's like okay? but which types of these attributes are your favorites? Which color eyes do you prefer? What size penis? What types of culture do you enjoy most? Kind of like your favorite ice cream flavor. These defining aspects would be under either looks or personality. Color eyes doesn't matter. Original culture doesn't matter, I only care that we share the same values. Less than 6" dick, preferably 5" or smaller. I don't care about skin color or ethnicity or hair color, I care if we enjoy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:44 PM
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Briffault's law is not just about finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:38 PM
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That's assuming he will keep rising in value and will age well. Most men age okay until about 50-60, then it's liver spots, balding, and wrinkles everywhere. A much younger woman is not going to have sex with an old man unless they're already in a loving relationship so she has "wife goggles" or she's a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:07 PM
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That's a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:06 PM
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Huh. Maybe it depends on what the satisfaction is, like different aspects of life? Like I tend to be satisfied with a job for about 2 years before wanting something different or new...whether it's an entirely new job, or just being moved to a different department/higher position in the same company. But then once I'm there, it's another 2 years give or take a few months before I'm looking around again. Relationships last a very long time, like my friendships since 8th grade going forward tend to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:06 PM
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Probably the same number of red pillers and/or mgtow who made bad decisions vs legit got screwed. Just from what I've seen over the years of reading posts and blogs by, or speaking with, both groups of men...it's an almost 50/50 split.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:14 AM
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Eh, fleeting moments sounds a bit short of a timespan. Aren't many people satisfied or content for a year or two at a time before feeling the need to make life changes again?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:10 AM
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Why wouldn't an independent man and independent woman get together and have RICH-KIDS or AVERAGE INCOME KIDS? Or why not just stay INDEPENDENT for both partners if they want to be NO KIDS together?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:05 AM
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Well said, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:02 AM
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Personality is one of my 3 requirements along with libido and looks. Obviously you have different definitions though. What do you consider a preference vs a requirement? Or maybe an example showing why/how personality is not one for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:59 AM
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Not the person from original comment, but I think desire to provide for your partner is a personality trait. Actual ability to is different, of course. You could be someone who would love to be the main breadwinner or sole date-payer, but not have the financial means to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:55 AM
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For a type of woman, sure. No doubt. But I don't think I'm that rare of a woman who would look at that and immediately be a little disgusted as my first reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:51 AM
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That's assuming one believes other women will have the same calculations for a HVM as you, which often is not the case. If I see a guy who has a lot of women dropping themselves on him, it's a big red flag. He's probably a player, has a casual sex mindset, and has high risk of stds. All negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:09 AM
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In reality, and at least in my anecdotal experience. Personality (which for most people is easily interchangeable and adaptable when needed), is the probably the least important trait in dating, at least for long term. In my experience, personality is 33/33/33...looks, personality, libido. Those are the 3 main components of a partner, imo. They're all equally important. Your personality (whether good or bad) means nothing if you don't provide intrinsic value to your partner and the relationship.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:04 AM
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I agree with all of this, for a HVM. The only thing I disagree with is meat eaters with vegetarians or vegans. So long as they respect each other's food choices and aren't assholes trying to "convert" their partner, it works out fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:48 AM
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Who said anything about "all the time"? It's only a few times a year. All of my different guyfriends from 10th grade forward have shared with me/the other guys when they've been depressed or angry or something bad happened. Not everything though, I'm sure. I certainly haven't shared anything about the worst of the shit I went through as a kid with everyone...only my FWB knows that. But yeah, I heard about the reasons one of my friends got divorced. Struggles with alcohol. Family drama. Fights wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:34 AM
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Wasn't your comment directed solely at me...? It certainly reads like it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 10:21 PM
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Yes because again, numerous men do mean ALL when they say AWALT, just like numerous feminists do mean ALL when they say YesAllMen. If it wasn’t something I frequently encountered, it would be a different story. But because it is commonly used to say no exceptions, I do need clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:07 PM
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Well that would be an extremely easy task, since I've only ever had 1 FWB, who is still my current sex partner. My apologies then. There are numerous people in this sub who do mean it entirely literally, as in 100%, no exceptions allowed. I had assumed you were one of these due to your phrasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:05 PM
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Well at least now you've changed it to nearly all instead of all. But yes, it is encountered by many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:02 PM
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Thankfully you are incorrect. Nobody is a saint, no man or woman, me, you, anyone. Not saying that at all. But I can swear on my life that if you were to tally up my personal "sins", none of these would be on the list. And because I don't believe I'm a "unicorn", I'm confident that other women haven't either. No idea about percentages but it's definitely not 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:01 PM
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No, that would be terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:51 PM
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You're very lucky. I hope that continues for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:58 PM
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Yikes...what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:44 PM
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Thankfully I have never once in my life wanted marriage or kids. I have lived alone since I was 17 and already do 100% of the house work. As for my FWB, I've known him almost 16 years and he is none of those things. Would you like to try again?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:42 PM
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Or I'm just someone who knows what she likes. My FWB is 50, and knows what he likes too. Societal expectations can go piss up a rope.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:34 PM
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To be fair, I don't watch much real human shows, so all my examples are from cartoons/anime. So if you don't watch any of that (I can highly recommend some though) it's not weird you don't know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:01 PM
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What are you trying to do here? 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:56 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:44 PM
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At least you have someone. That's good! If you want to chat, I have a surprising amount of people...usually guys, sometimes gals...here who pm me to vent. No pressure. Just an offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:10 PM
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You budget your time like any other activity. If needed, just set a timer on your phone. I tend to get really into my games, and would play for 5+ hours on my day off if I'm not paying attention. So I set my phone alarm for 2 hours and save at that point. I do the same thing when reading, because I'll just sit and read an entire 500+ page book and suddenly my day is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:04 PM
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I realize this is going to sound like I'm a "pick me" groupie, but I don't actually give a fuck. I watch porn. I play videogames. Ergo, I have zero issues with men doing the same. Why would I care that someone else also enjoys wanking or relaxing with a game?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:01 PM
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So who do you talk to when life shits on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:58 PM
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Nah, I've been with my FWB for 13 years and we enjoy being switches. Sometimes I'm in charge, sometimes he is. Prevents boredom and fulfills our different needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:08 AM
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I'm fine with that, but wouldn't call it discipline. It's just not being a doormat and sticking to your values. As a woman who used to be completely spineless and submissive, I had to unlearn that behavior. This is why I can sympathize with men who are doing the same...it's not as easy to reject years of indoctrination as people think. But it is very much worth it, and your life will drastically improve by refusing to associate with men or women who mistreat you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:05 AM
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Sounds like someone who believes in Abrahamic gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:58 AM
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For me a man is someone who knows what he wants, is strong, uncompromising and has unquestionable authority. So...then women are men if they embody these traits? But nobody can treat you like shit without your permission. Oh they most certainly can. You just choose how to respond. So why do men let women mistreat them? Various reasons. They're tired of fighting back. They've been brainwashed to pedestalize women. They aren't good at standing up for themselves. They think it isn't that serious. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:56 AM
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Okay so what about relationships where there are no kids? Or relationships where the woman lies about doing half the work?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:09 AM
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Beast Boy and Raven (Teen Titans) Aang and Katara (The Last Airbender) Starfire and Robin (Teen Titans) Cosmo and Wanda (Fairly Oddparents) Tatsu and Miku (Way of the Househusband) Yona and Hak (Yona of the Dawn)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:03 AM
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You're right. I'll have to think on this some more. Thanks for going back and forth about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:38 AM
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How tall is s/he? Probably 5'9" What does s/he generally look like? (facial hair, skin, haircut, etc.) How's s/he built? White or mixed, slight facial hair, typical short male haircut, some freckles, lightly tanned looking skin, a little overweight by 10 lbs, not as much body hair. Broader shoulders than me but not muscular. (For the women:) If he were to approach you in a setting where it's encouraged (bar, nightclub, party, any social event really) , how would you react? The only social events…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:36 AM
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Do you think there's any solution? I can usually think of ones that would involve laws or public policies but am at a loss for issues like emotional abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:13 AM
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I don't believe in literal AWALT obviously, although I will admit that hearing from various men over the past decade that Enough WALT for them to be cautious. I don't know what sexual attraction has to do with it. If we're talking about the type of woman who requires an emotional connection for either sexual attraction to occur or to feel comfortable enough to have sex, then being emotionally open would help. Maybe it wouldn't for women who don't need a connection, you'd have to ask them. Your F…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:12 AM
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Unfortunately it's much more difficult for there to be social consequences for things that usually happen in privacy of one's home. That goes for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:59 AM
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Is it really though? If your friends acted the same way as your partners, would they be your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:55 AM
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Do you think there's anything to be done about these norms, other than teaching the future generations not to act like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:29 AM
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Basically every discussion involving men with actual romantic experience has the consensus that women don't want an emotionally available man and would rather he just suffer and deal with his problems in silence. We have a word for women like this. It begins with a B. Or worse, they'll just use his problems against him in an argument down the line, which hasn't happened to me personally but I have seen play out. We have a word for them too. Starts with a C. The average woman wants a guy who'll s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:07 AM
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I love everything about this post. ❤
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:30 PM
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Women tend to be the stronger social sex, because we typically have very large and strong social circles. This doesn't only include friends and family, but in many cases coworkers, hobby groups, business contacts, etc. This is part of the reason why women in general suffer less emotionally after a divorce, because men do not have the network to talk with and gain support from. There is also the fact that, when a crime occurs between a man and a woman, the media and people in general will believe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:29 PM
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No problem at all!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:24 PM
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Not all of it, but they have infected large amounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:19 PM
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I'm very glad that you're not. Do you think that they only wrote those books, or helped with your rehab because they were feminists? Or would they have done it if they were egalitarian, or no ideology at all, or even traditionalists who don't want to see women suffer? I'm asking because I often hear about the many good things churches and religious people do for those in poverty, which is undeniable. But I also volunteered or still help with similar assistance to the poor, and I'm an atheist. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:01 PM
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Thanks Cimorene You're welcome, Pink. I hope we can have a meaningful conversation about this topic. What is equality in a schema where biologically the female and the male have extremely different but necessary functions. The equality I'm talking about is based on equal treatment, responsibilities, and expectations of men and women in the workforce, judicial system, and healthcare fields. I've been vocal about my position that women not pay for dates because the positive outcome for a male who …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:54 PM
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Conservative
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:22 PM
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Yeah humans of all types tend to suck quite a bit. But thank you for your empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:14 PM
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Oh, how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:55 PM
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Because I was rather horribly bullied and tormented in middle school and high school by the jocks, athletes, and popular boys. Physically and emotionally. I have an aversion to muscular men because of this. I like my men soft and overweight and not intimidating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:55 PM
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So...I don't hate feminism but I do think it has, in the western world, largely outlived its usefulness. Maybe it's just the kind of people who have generally taken it over...like the radfems and TERFs and SJWs...but it isn't an ideology I agree with or can align myself with. Yes, I'm extremely aware that the dictionary definition is something of "the belief that men and women are equal and should be treated as such". And if that's all it was in practice, I'd absolutely be a feminist. But unfort…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:51 PM
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Usually we just get told our experiences are valid but we're outliers and don't really matter for the discussions. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:37 PM
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That means a lot to me, thank you. I know that a lot of us disagree here but we can still have fun and interesting conversations so long as nobody acts like a douche.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:32 PM
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Lol most likely yes. I hope the demographic survey results for our sub gets released soon!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:31 PM
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Do you have a source for point 1? I've never heard of that before and am having trouble finding that information in Google searches. This might be an interesting article based on the second point: https://www.divorcemag.com/articles/multiple-sex-partners-before-marriage-does-it-lead-to-divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:29 PM
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I'm honestly not sure, because it could just be that there's limited types of men who try out or get hired for porn. Remember that the actresses aren't doing the hiring, it's the directors, who are like 98% male. They may be hiring based on what they believe women want to see, or maybe disregarding women entirely since they know most viewers are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:18 PM
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Sure. A lot of the time they are, which is why I don't tend to watch hetero porn unless it is homemade. I'm already not a fan of the typical porn star look, prefer to look at normal people. But if you want to have an actor that will appeal to the majority of watchers...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:36 PM
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Despite one-third of porn viewers being women there is no short chubby guy fantasy as a category, not even lean skinny guys are in demand...No variation. No diversity. This part is true, which is why I almost exclusively watch gay male porn or homemade/amateur porn. sexual fantasies of women we essentially se the same guy; athletic 6ft white or sometimes black stud that rails them. I don't actually think that most of what you're calling "marketed towards women" porn is really consumed by women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:03 PM
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I wasn't aware that handjobs had a bad reputation at all. When the hell did that happen? Is fingering a woman looked down on for the same reasons now? Handjobs are like, super involved, my dude. You have to ask which kind of lube he wants (warming, cooling, tingling, water based or hybrid) and then you have to work out what he likes best. Twist at the end? Massage the frenulum? Use 2 fingers of both hands to kinda do a opposite direction rub? Does he like the feeling of fingernails or no? I've g…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:22 AM
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Yes, I understand that is how it usually goes. My comment is only speaking from personal experience though, not what "everyone else" is doing. I'm most comfortable in male gender roles and this reflects in how I treat the men I date. Which is again why I don't understand if I'm doing my absolute best to show sincere interest and that I care/want to provide for him from the start, why is full on piv sex still the only thing that matters?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:13 AM
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I think the big issue is women want what they need for intimacy and expect men to give it to them, but very rarely consider the reverse If any of the guys I dated had been willing to compromise with this, it would have been fine. Like if by date 3 he wanted to make out a bit and get a handjob, that's definitely doable. But unfortunately most guys seem to be all or nothing, either you bring them to bed for full on 100% fucking or they think you're a prude and not worth their time anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:06 AM
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Fwiw I don't see many men saying that sex needs to happen by date 1. Most are going with the whole "3 is the magic number" rule that people seem so fond of. Which to me is still really freaking soon because you're asking for both physical and emotional vulnerability from someone you've only known for like, 6-8 combined hours? (Assuming dates are about 2.5 hours long.) There's men here who openly say they have trouble being emotionally vulnerable with their wives, but I'm expected to do so with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:58 AM
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What country are you from that points 2 and 3 aren't a part of the standard curriculum?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:45 AM
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Lol no thank you. Contrary to what Tears for Fears says, not everybody wants to rule the world. Honestly I'm surprised I currently have 10 up votes, thought that this comment would be like -3 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:41 AM
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Note that I am not speaking for myself here, I don't do hookups and don't separate sex from relationships...so I could be incorrect. But from what I understand of both men and women who are into having casual sex, they are able to put their sex partners into a Just Sex category. Like the woman will sleep with a good-looking guy but would never consider him for a relationship because he's dumb as a baked potato. Or the man will sleep with a good-looking chick but not have a relationship with her …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:56 AM
2

Most of the women are 4s? Seems statistically odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:43 AM
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Us guys are expected to do all the work in the bedroom Sounds like lazy or uncaring partners And no girl is good enough to make it fun What would actually make it fun, if you don't mind saying? I've only known 1 asexual person irl and she said that although she finds sex boring, even with orgasms, she does it for the feeling of intimacy/romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:38 AM
2

What did you realize? Or do you mean you read my flair and saw that I'm a gamer too so wouldn't tell men to stop playing games?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:30 AM
2

The above scenario is probably one of the few times this would realistically happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:10 AM
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Artificial wombs, nice. No need for the dangers of pregnancy and will allow single men/gay couples to not be potentially fucked over by surrogates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:07 AM
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Eliminate all sexist and racist double standards in the judicial system, media, military, public workplaces, dv shelters, and hospitals. Improve purchasing requirements for firearms. Make the federal government smaller, it's main purpose should be to protect its citizens. Allow people the right to use their property however they wish, so long as it does not negatively affect their neighborhood or the environment. Legalize abortion rights for all women prior to week 20, and allow after that if he…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:50 AM
2

That works!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:23 AM
2

So...do you live in the US, and when are you running for office?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:06 AM
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I'm just glad it's not all of them, and the misogyny is getting less and less as the years go on. For example I'm back in a construction/blue collar job now and am enjoying it immensely. I'm the only female in the territory (and the youngest by 9 years) but my coworkers and production manager all treat me as an equal. There's just a few hangers on that will hopefully become egalitarian soon and hire based on merit and ability instead of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:05 AM
1

Interestingly, I have had gender dysphoria since I was 6, and am transgender (not transsexual, no surgery or hormone therapy). You're also the 4th person in 3 weeks on this sub to ask if I'm a transwoman. I find this pretty funny, given that I am a biological female but have always thought of myself as a boy/man. I keep my hair extremely short, wear male clothing, have a breast binder, abide by masculine gender roles in my relationship, and have always felt more comfortable with male friends and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:21 PM
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Sure. For what it's worth, I've had jobs were I'm better than some of my male coworkers, both physically and production wise. Not all of my coworkers, of course, but a decent amount. For example, when I worked at my warehouse job in my 20s, I had 2 male coworkers who were weaker than me and 3 who were stronger. At my current job which involves making sales for a construction company, I'm consistently in the top of sales vs my 5 local male coworkers and always in the top 20% of sales for our enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:56 PM
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It's a possibility. Could also depend on how you're feeling during the rest of the day, what happened at work, where your hormones are at in the natural daily cycle the male body goes through. Hell, it could be related to what you ate, like if you had chocolate or caffeine or alcohol. Unless you keep a nutrition and wanking journal there's a lot of factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:41 PM
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I haven't noticed this trend, but if it's happening it just proves people care about celebrity lives waaaaay too much. Like damn, focus on your own shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:38 PM
2

Wait, why not the other way around? That what most guys here say they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:37 PM
1

Maybe twice is too much for your body. Could try to limit yourself to once a day and see how that goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:34 PM
2

It's not going to hurt you, if that's what you're worried about. If you don't cum your body will just break down the sperm and reuse it. I don't think nofap is a terrible idea by itself, what is a bad idea is how they create an entire ideology around it. It's like being vegetarian or vegan...I haven't eaten meat since I was 13, because I am grossed out by eating any animals. It's my personal choice to be vegetarian and I don't care that none of my friends or family are. But other people act holi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:33 PM
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It does slightly affect your hormones but many activities do that. The small amount of water, sugars, proteins, and other chemicals a human loses through masturbation can be easily replaced by eating a healthy snack. As you've noticed yourself, it's not that much of an affect, if any.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:28 PM
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Is that one task the only task in the role, or all? No, just literally driving a truck or picking up things that weigh less than 50 lbs. Not a difficult task at all, fam. I used to be a warehouse manager and carried/shipped heavier items than that. Its not hard. That small improvement between sexes on performance may look small but for a business trying to maximize efficiency, they’re gonna look at that. We aren't talking about professional sports or programming for NASA, dude. Yeah in those job…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:25 PM
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There is no such thing as "sexual energy", not the way they describe it. This is what's called "woo" or pseudoscience. If you decide to not masturbate because you want to use that 15-30 minutes doing a different activity, go for it. But don't get pulled into the weird, cultish mentality of "conserving your sexual chakras" or whatever their current line is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:04 PM
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Crystals are shiny rocks and the majority of essential oils don't actually do the majority of what the Young Living or DoTerra people say. Some oils are great for aromatherapy and some do have minor medicinal properties. But rubbing ylang-ylang on your butt isn't going to cure your intestinal cancer. My mom believes in all this stuff and wastes so much money...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:01 PM
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My dude, I do the same thing since I was like, 16. It's fine if you're not addicted. How to tell if you're addicted? You don't just want it, your brain thinks you need it. If I know that playing hey diddle diddle is going to make me late to work tomorrow morning, I'll go without. I'll be slightly horny for the majority of the day but it'll be fine. If I'm running late for work specifically because I decided than getting off was more important than my job...then yeah, that would be a problem. Sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:57 PM
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Holy shit, yes, thank you. The argument that oxytocin is some borderline magical chemical akin to a love spell from a fantasy rpg is really difficult to take seriously after the 100th time you hear it. Yes, it makes you feel good and is meant to create bonds between people and animals we spend a lot of time with. But it is in no way what some of the red pillers or blackpillers make it out to be for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:51 PM
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A man is better than a woman at driving a truck or picking up roadkill? Please, we aren't talking about using a jackhammer here...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:46 PM
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Yeah, you gotta take care of yourself, and if this is his best way to do so, more power to him. Nothing wrong with that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:44 PM
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Thank you. What were you expecting me to respond with, if you're comfortable saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:34 PM
1

Oh it certainly does occur that way too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:34 PM
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100% totally this. I have a friend irl who is a mgtow and we get along swimmingly since we agree on a lot of stuff. Honestly most mgtow who are just not into traditional relationships are pretty good guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:32 PM
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I would treat them exactly the same in regards to sex, I don't do hookups or casual, and would require months of dating before becoming intimate with either one. I don't mind short, I'm 5'7" and find men shorter than me attractive. Fat...no, not if you mean obese but I do prefer men with a dadbod/some meat on their bones. As for bald, it depends on his ethnicity. I think more black men look good bald than white men do, but it isn't a very attractive look imo. As for a literal male model, it depe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:11 PM
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Hello, pleased to meet you 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:34 PM
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I can understand that. My guy has had previous partners whereas he's my only one. In the beginning I had to deal with some jealousy...not an enjoyable emotion, of course. But eventually you learn to let it go and appreciate the relationship for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:33 PM
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Ah, so you're post is only addressing the issue of women who have one set of requirements for Chad vs another set for non-Chads, and is not directed towards the ones who treat both men the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:04 PM
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Judging by my own life experiences as a masculine woman vs my mother, aunt, and sisters who are very feminine women. I greatly prefer feminine/non-traditional men whereas they greatly prefer masculine/traditional men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:01 PM
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No, because it doesn't matter if they left him or he left them (as he has said happened). It only matters that he keeps choosing to be my friend and sex partner now, what occurred before I met him doesn't matter since we didn't know each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:58 PM
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Do you actually want a wife and kids? Or would you prefer a lifelong companion for a sexual relationship? If you want kids and marriage I don't have much advice, it's not something I care about or have put thought into. However if you want the second option I recommend getting a vasectomy and when dating make it known early on that you're medically infertile. This will help weed out any of the "baby rabies" women while simultaneously attracting the women who are happy to eliminate their worries …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:54 PM
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Where did you find the number in your post? Do you have the stats for men as well for better comparison? Also, most attractive I= best partner. I've never had hookups and even I know that. You could be a woman who fucked a Chad but he was terrible in bed, or a man who fucked a gorgeous woman but she was a starfish. As my FWB says, "a sexually enthusiastic and nice 7/10 will always be a better choice than a sexually boring and bitchy 9/10".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:45 PM
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Very much this. If you're a feminine woman, you're typically attracted to a masculine man, and vice versa. If you're a masculine woman, you're typically attracted to a feminine man, and vice versa. There is nothing wrong with this, it's completely natural to seek out the kind of partner who can provide the "half" you don't have yourself. Most cultures have understood this idea of complementary partnership or yin and yang, this is old information.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:22 PM
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Very tiny amount most men would struggle to become rangers and it would take a women with some massive fitness and strength for her to do it. Yeah, that's why there's only a few female Rangers in the world...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:12 PM
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No, it would just be a very small amount of women who could, not 0. And that is perfectly fine. Here is an article with a partial interview with Captain Kristen Griest, one of the first 3 female Rangers. I agree with her stance, that just because it is more difficult for women to become Rangers (or infantry in general) doesn't mean the standards should ever be dropped. If women are given easier tasks, they will not be respected the same by their male peers as a fellow soldier who completed the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:52 PM
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There aren't "plenty" of men still doing heavy construction work at 50 and 60. I work in the building/construction industry and typically as construction workers get older they'll take on easier/light lifting jobs and leave the heavy lifting to the 20 and 30 year old men. Do some 60 year old men still remain fit enough to keep doing the same job 40 years later? Sure. I'll never say outliers don't exist. But as people here are incredibly fond of telling me, the exception proves the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:46 PM
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Jesus...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:07 PM
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Did you bring this information back to the boss?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:57 PM
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Damn, that sucks. Not uncommon from what I've heard though. I did work at a warehouse that had a few physical requirements but thankfully the boss was an equal opportunity employer and just hired anyone who could do it. Which is as it should be. Merit and capabilities, not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:51 PM
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Because I enjoy watching porn, both alone and with my FWB. Likewise, he enjoys watching it alone or with me. I find it to be sexy and sometimes inspiring, where we try the same positions or toys/lubes shown. I'm not insecure in either my body or his desire for it, so find it silly to restrict either him or other men from watching it. It's not like I find him less desirable as a sex partner just because he's not as good looking as some other men in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:52 PM
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So your mom is probably in her late 50s, early 60s and wouldn't be the age most people work full-time in blue collar jobs anyway. Not sure why you're comparing a menopausal woman to a woman in her 20s or 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:25 PM
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Ah, then it must have been another member. I try very hard to remember usernames but there's a few of you who just have strings of numbers. You're pointing out solutions to someone who doesn't need them though. You should probably tell them to the people in this thread looking for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:21 PM
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my mother is way fitter than avarage women She's fitter than average but can't open a jar? Does she have a degenerative nerve condition or something? Because that doesn't make sense otherwise. my mother is 30 pounds slimmer than avarage american woman at that height and she did sport stuff. Okay? I'm 5'7" and 155lbs and I did landscaping stuff in my 20s as well as have a current morning workout.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:19 PM
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Well they should not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:16 PM
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I'm talking about devoting more time to being productive and less to complaining, but all I get from you gals here in this thread is "problem here problem there boo hoo I can't do it, it can't be done easily!". Honest question, are you new to this sub? Actually if I recall correctly you are fairly recently a member. You're pretty much describing what this sub is made for...Discussions and debates about gender and dating topics, where people of both sexes basically complain all the time. Complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:14 PM
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Okay, so your mom can't do any blue collar work. Again, thankfully your mom is not indicative of all women's capabilities. I agree that employers should hire based on competence. It's a good thing women can be competent too. He did not break the women's world record, he broke the British women's record, which was 525 lbs of deadlift. As of 2021 the world record belongs to an American woman and it was 683 lbs., which he did not break. Yes, he is not a career lifter but he admitted in interviews t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:06 PM
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Has complaining about the way things are and venting to others ever helped anyone in this sub? It's not like 100% of human activities are "productive" lol. You have never complained to a friend or relative about anything work related in your entire life? Come on, my dude...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:55 PM
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Because if you are unemployed and already pinching pennies to survive since unemployment benefits are shit, you're not going to have the funds to open a brand new company. I'm working on opening a business now, and I certainly wouldn't be able to if I wasn't currently employed full-time and had that income to draw from.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:53 PM
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Easy to say if you are already working and just looking for a new job. You can't blame unemployed men and women for complaining at least a little, when they desperately need a job and have all the required skills for an open position but never even get a call back.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:50 PM
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I honestly do not know. Perhaps they don't believe female applicants are serious, or the owners are misogynistic, or they believe the woman will be a temporary hire because "they all want babies hurp derp", or they don't believe the previous experience on resumes. There's probably other reasons too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:48 PM
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And after doing all that, then what? Being capable of DIY home improvement doesn't mean you'll be hired for a job doing that work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:45 PM
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Thankfully many women are stronger than your mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:41 PM
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A perfect opportunity, for those wo/men who do want to do it, to do it instead of waiting on the hesitant men, no? Unless companies still won't hire us. See my comment further upthread.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:36 PM
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I'm most assuredly not "your girl". I'm 35 years old, and haven't been a girl for decades. Please do not be condescending if you're interested in a real discussion. And if you're not, then there's nothing more to say here. Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:23 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_hysteria Even though it was categorized as a disease, hysteria's symptoms were synonymous with normal functioning female sexuality.[1] In extreme cases, the woman may have been forced to enter an insane asylum or to have undergone surgical hysterectomy.[2] Hysteria is a term for a completely different condition now, that affects both sexes, and the type you're referring to isn't valid and hasn't been for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:12 PM
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This is going to sound harsh, so apologies in advance. You need better female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:06 PM
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No, that doesn't have to do with sex, it has to do with gender and perhaps sexual orientation, albeit to a far lesser extent. Masculine identity people will usually have different modes of communication and speaking styles than feminine identity people, that is true. But if you divide people by sex rather than gender, you'll be putting some of us into groups we don't belong in and can't comfortably communicate with. Trust me, I'm a masculine female and have been in female exclusive spaces. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:05 PM
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You've missed the point. The point is that if you mention to your friends that you need help moving, both your male and female friends should offer to help so long as they don't have prior commitments. If your galfriends don't but your guyfriends do, call them out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:53 AM
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...you do realize "hysteria" isn't a thing, right? Like, the field of gynecological medicine has advanced greatly since 1880 when the vibrator was invented to treat "hysteria" aka sexual frustration that male doctors refused to admit was sexual frustration. And I'm not talking about delayed pregnancy, I'm talking about no pregnancy. Zilch. Nada. None. Never occurring. Not on the table, no negotiations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:50 AM
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Ah, I was assuming you were talking about a typical work environment or office, not someone moving house, since you mentioned the "women around you" not female friends. Yes, absolutely, in that case your friends of either sex should definitely help. I've had my guyfriends help me move, and in return/previously I've helped them move. It's actually pretty handy to have different sized people when moving furniture! I'm significantly slimmer and more dexterous than all of them, so if something gets …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:34 AM
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I agree and would very much like to see that. Or just get rid of them altogether. For things like gyms and salons and clubs obviously, not things that are necessarily gendered like uterine cancer support groups. A man wouldn't have any reason to join a cervical cancer survivor group, just like a woman wouldn't have reason to join a prostate cancer survivor group. But both sexes can get breast cancer so that should be open to all. I think that makes the most sense...Have memberships based on shar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:25 AM
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I don't know. But if my experiences are anything to go by, it doesn't matter if we do line up when companies aren't willing to hire us. Employment statistics are only good to show how many people are actually hired. As far as I know, there is no labor bureau report for resumes or applications handed in, which is what we're talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:20 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/oi1bl0/why_do_they_feel_this_way/h4snaod?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:15 AM
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Correct. However if more of us speak out and petition for social change and true equality, eventually we'll be able to take baby steps towards it. While it will be slow and many people will be against it, I'm confident that it's in the realm of possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:14 AM
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Men will get hired for the jobs, women won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:12 AM
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Depends on how heavy. If it's 150 lbs then yeah, I'd be unable to carry it, as would many men. But if you're talking about carting are 35 lbs water jugs or 50 lbs boxes of printer paper, or even need someone to grab the other side of a 100 lbs crate...then yes. I can and have helped with that. If they aren't volunteering, I'd say directly ask the women around you and see what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:11 AM
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For what it's worth, I support private businesses to do as they wish. But as soon as you take any amount of funding (be it local, state, or federal) I firmly believe you must open your doors to the entire public or at least provide a similar service. For example, I somewhat understand why a woman's domestic violence shelter wouldn't want to allow male victims into their living space, but then they should still provide separate assistance or shelter to men. I'm very much against the creation of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:05 AM
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You don't think there are men dating in their 40s, 50s, and 60s right now? That's not correct. My FWB is 50, and we have members here who are unmarried/dating males who are in their 40s and older. Not sure where you came up with the idea older men aren't dating or being FWB or even looking for casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:56 AM
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Depends on your age. It is easier for a 20 year old male to be fit than a 50 year old one. As men age they lose testosterone and muscle mass and skin elasticity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:25 AM
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Never said it was a value judgment. Fertility is only important to people who want to be parents. If you do not, then fertility is a high detriment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:24 AM
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That's a good idea for a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:22 AM
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Another point they don't realize is that they think women don't want to do these jobs. Women interested in it often can't get ahead in the business. Ask any woman to walk into an office for work and see if they hire her. This is the problem. Men constantly say "women only want equality to be white collar workers" when, in my experience, this is not true. There have been 2 times in my life I was unemployed (pre-covid so no extra $600 a week, just normal unemployment benefits which suck ass). Duri…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:20 AM
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Work is still work. There is no "men's space" or "women's space" for earning income. We aren't talking about gyms or clubs or fraternities/sororities, we're talking about doing a job so you get money to survive. And for those of us who don't give a fuck about fertility it is a non-issue. Hell, I've tried to pay doctors to damage my fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:57 AM
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Guys are expected to have extremely fit physiques to be attractive. Average amount of fit, yes. Muscular or built? No. Men aren't anywhere near that narrow minded about women's bodies. Most of us aren't narrow minded about men's bodies either, it's just that whenever we say so we're called liars or that we're "gaslighting" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:51 AM
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What is with the anti-porn stances currently? I don't recall it being like this just a month ago. Were we recently inundated by nofap? I'm waiting for a post saying that women lose our virginity by watching porn lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:46 AM
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The very first one I ever found was Angry Harry. He predates all the current ridiculous "gurus" like Rollo, Dalrock, etc. He did use extremely blunt language and was, of course, angry in his venting, but wasn't misogynistic. At least not in the way the current ones are, which is far easier to see in their writings and opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:35 AM
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Not sure what you're saying here?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:01 AM
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Lol. My guy is 15 years older man me, so I'm the whippersnapper in my relationship 😂😂😂 I'm assuming you don't actually think of yourself as old though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 07:42 PM
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I don't think in my country we have that kind of cinematic bullying scenarios. We might make fun of certain losers, but not with that kind of brutality. Americans need to chill. I'm sure it doesn't happen at most schools, I've spoken to other people around my age who were bullied and it seems it was usually just verbal. Of course nowadays we have cyberbullying too. People just suck. I regularly go for younger girls. My last girlfriend is 8 years younger. So i have decent basis of comparison. Oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 07:21 PM
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There isn't anything wrong, you just want an exclusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 07:10 PM
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I remember this girl, quite shy, that wouldn't talk to a lot of people, wouldn't go out at night, but would have amazing grades. I never saw a guy hitting on her. But she was actually quite cute. That type of girl doesn't exist anymore. Two things. I was this type of girl, except instead of just not being hit on, guys and girls were bullies. (Not including the nerdy/geeky guys who were my friends of course.) Milk poured on my head, gum put in my hair, clothes stolen by the girls and given to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 07:09 PM
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Same thing as men who are creepy. Leering, staring unblinking at you, invading personal space, gropping, making random and/or inappropriate remarks about your body. Y'know, creepiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 06:58 PM
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Ah, okay. Yeah, my guy isn't effeminate but he is slightly feminineand doesn't care that I prefer masculine gender roles. He's had and still has female friends, just like I have just male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:41 PM
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I don't know anyone else who is a vegetarian or agnostic atheist either, but that doesn't stop me lol. I'm not sure what I should say? It's lasted many years for us. Guess it's just a matter of finding a man who doesn't want kids or marriage, but does want friendship and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:11 PM
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No, I don't know anyone else with a FWB irl. Surely it's not weird to love your friends though?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:05 PM
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No it is because the terms mean different things. When you say that you are childless, most people assume that you want kids but are unable to have them. When you say that you are childfree it shows that you are free from having them. There's no insecurity, simply separate definitions for different words.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:35 PM
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I wasn't told that either, but I know that many have been. You can see it in the women who call themselves "queens" or think men are useless unless they have a 6 figure income or insist on traditional gender roles for their dates but not themselves. Hell, even some of my younger sisters think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:54 PM
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I am definitely disagreeing! OP wants both parties to experience difficulties in dating, essentially to know how it feels. I'm against this idea. Imo it is better to eliminate the difficulties as much as possible from the start by promoting a truly egalitarian mindset amongst the sexes instead of splitting us apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:51 PM
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No, it isn't making me look bad, whatever that means. I don't care to "be quiet" and it is not anyone's place to tell me to. Please stop trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:48 PM
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Agreed. I enjoy the fan song cover Paranoid DJ did, captures the character well and voice is spot on. https://youtu.be/kG8ioClgly0
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:29 PM
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Definitely this, if you're not asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:26 PM
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Thanks 😁 You watch too?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:23 PM
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Thanks 😁 You watch too?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:22 PM
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No, it would be better if women weren't told they were a prize to be won and woo'd to begin with. It leads to egotistical behaviors on one hand, and pedestalization on the other. Just teach boys and girls that neither of us are more or less human than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:43 PM
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Someone who wants equality. Okay, yeah. That's why I'm an egalitarian. I see the opposite. The only men are being loved are the ones who have value that others can use. The LVM I know are all men that have been mistreated by women and women refuse to take responsibility for them. 100% of them? That's really weird. Statistically it doesn't seem possible, I wish I could introduce you to all my guyfriends and my FWB so you see how relationships are meant to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:40 PM
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Someone who wants equality. Okay, yeah. That's why I'm an egalitarian. I see the opposite. The only men are being loved are the ones who have value that others can use. The LVM I know are all men that have been mistreated by women and women refuse to take responsibility for them. 100% of them? That's really weird. Statistically it doesn't seem possible, I wish I could introduce you to all my guyfriends and my FWB so you see how relationships are meant to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:39 PM
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Someone who wants equality. Okay, yeah. That's why I'm an egalitarian. I see the opposite. The only men are being loved are the ones who have value that others can use. The LVM I know are all men that have been mistreated by women and women refuse to take responsibility for them. 100% of them? That's really weird. Statistically it doesn't seem possible, I wish I could introduce you to all my guyfriends and my FWB so you see how relationships are meant to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:39 PM
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OK so then what would you call a woman who cares about the well-being of men in general, not just the one she is in a relationship with? My friends have had much better experiences with their wives so that's where I'm getting my information from. I've also seen and/or been the child of relationships where the woman abused the man, or the man abused the woman, and there's certainly far too many cases like this. But I still would say about 60% of relationships have it where the people care about e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:33 PM
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We can and should call women out just as much. It is one of the only ways we'll affect change.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:14 PM
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Most people do though, not just "pick mes". That was what I was getting at. It's normal to want your partner to be happy, and if you have agape love then that extends to a much larger amount of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:13 PM
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I have had the exact opposite experiences lol. I have a difficult time trusting and communicating with women, because of lying, backstabbing, or being used as a verbal punching bag. For me, men are more blatantly direct with how they speak and if they have a problem with you they tell you straight up so you can (hopefully) fix the issue, whereas women in my experience just let it fester and you find out they don't like you through the grapevine. Like you said, be indifferent, not rude. I have be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:58 PM
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Ah. I've always worked in male dominated fields and all my friends for the past decade or so have been men. But I have gender dysphoria so it's different for me vs a cis woman, I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:42 PM
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That's really unfortunate, I'm sorry that has been your experience. What about your male friends, family, and co-workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:31 PM
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That's really unfortunate, I'm sorry that has been your experience. What about your male friends, family, and co-workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:30 PM
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There's a bunch of us who are vocal about being childfree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:14 PM
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There's a bunch of us who are vocal about being childfree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:14 PM
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That's good then, but it doesn't mean you're the only ones who care about men. Anyone who wants men to be happy and able to live a safe life cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:58 AM
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That's good then, but it doesn't mean you're the only ones who care about men. Anyone who wants men to be happy and able to live a safe life cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:57 AM
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Okay, all of those are stupid reasons to call someone creepy, but I really need to know how eating ice cream is. Like that one just sticks out as the most absurd out of a list of ridiculousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:04 AM
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I don't agree with that number, it is way too high. That being said, my biological father, stepfather, and one uncle were all abusive in various ways and none of them ever went to jail. Just because a man or woman is violent or abusive doesn't mean they'll end up in our judicial system.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:02 AM
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Men who are actually abusive/net negative to society (murderers, rapists, arsonists, etc) = about 5%. Women a very similar number, I'd say 4%. Men who are creepy (not physically harmful or awkward, just legitimately misogynistic) = another 5%. Women who are creepy is actually a larger number in my opinion, probably close to 15%.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:59 AM
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Misogyny used to sell, now the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction. We need to work together to stop all forms of sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:55 AM
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This. The people who are truly abusive or horrible aren't just hurting one person, they're hurting many. Look at Bill Cosby or Harvey Weinstein...only 2 men, but over a hundred women negatively affected by their crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:54 AM
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Traditional success markers are for suckers and so are the standards of women who can't even meet them themselves most of the time Absolutely this. Double standards are shit, as is living life just trying to keep up with what society says you "need" to be fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:35 AM
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I used to do the same exact thing. It takes a while, sometimes years, but eventually you see how fucked your situation is. When you see your boss rolling up to work 3 hours late in his brand new BMW and then an hour later going out to eat at a restaurant you could never afford on the salary he's paying, all while you're working a 11 hour shift just to pay your bills...yeah. You see your labor for what it is. If you're not the boss, you're probably being misused.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:33 AM
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Lol best answer so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:28 AM
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Me? I only have to worry about MYSELF. Call it selfish, whatever. I call it SMART. Hear, hear. Unmarried and childfree is the way to go for many of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:28 AM
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The women who care about men are the ones who have empathy. That's really all that's required. (Which you'd think was the majority of our species given how social we are but strangely not.) People who are empathetic don't like to see other people suffering or downtrodden.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:23 AM
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Honest question: do "pick me" women actually care about men as human beings, or just give male positive lip service in order to be picked, but not truly care?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:18 AM
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Individual values can be socially influenced, they aren’t necessarily. I never said people are wrong for conforming. But in your previous comment you said Women are socially encouraged to wear make up, full stop. With that "full stop" at the end it sounded like you're making the assumption that just because it is socially encouraged that it's a given that women will usually conform, and not make an actual decision for themselves if they want to put stuff on their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:15 AM
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That is not true at all. I've seen relatives and coworkers with/without makeup and you cannot tell if they're using a "natural" look until you see them actually bare faced. It's not as jarring as if they typically go all out and then show up naked faced one day, but they do look tired or sick compared to when they're "natural". Why? Because they are using makeup not to completely change their features but to give an altered look that shows their normal face if it was perfect. They then necessari…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:09 AM
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Just because you're socially encouraged to do something doesn't mean you have to if it goes against what you value or enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:51 AM
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Is it an actual requirement, like in your employee handbook, or just expected. I don't wear makeup and would bring it up to HR if any boss of mine tried to say it's needed to look professional but only for female staff
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:48 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/oh6qi9/women_wearing_tons_of_makeup_and_shapewear_are/h4nre4a?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:44 AM
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Say no less of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:40 AM
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Possibly. I could just not have felt it yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:39 AM
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Which seems a lot worse than the opposite...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:15 AM
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Is it? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:55 AM
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Nah, don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:47 AM
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Is that something they usually say? I see a decent amount of overweight women with muscular dudes...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:00 AM
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Meh, might be too hairy for me, but you should enjoy yourself 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:59 AM
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I agree that regular hygiene isn't lying, it is necessary for physical health. Not sure why you're bringing it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:57 AM
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Yeah, I understand that part about dead bedrooms. Sex is, in my experience, is a major aspect of how you show love to your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:54 AM
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True, that does happen often lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:01 AM
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Lol true. 0 does equal 0. 😉 You can always do a post edit if you want to change the wording a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:58 PM
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Yeah, it's lying but idk...I'm very hesitant to call either one of these "pathetic". That seems too harsh. Pathetic imo is stuff like simping, pedestalization, being a doormat, letting other men or women tell you how to live, pretending to agree with opinions you don't like just for cred or "acceptance".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:50 PM
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It probably depends on where you hang out though?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:46 PM
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Eh, the only 2 of these I'd say no to are the political rally and gym. The casino sounds fun, I've never been to one so it'd be a cool new experience. Mall would be familiar and comfortable, can be fun to stop in the more eclectic shops. Amusement park...maybe. I'm afraid of roller coasters lol. I'd also suggest museums, outdoor local concert, farmers market, and microbrew taverns.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:45 PM
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I don't think I'd say it's pathetic, just disingenuous. On one hand you're lying about your income, on the other you're lying about how you really look. Don't see much of a point to it in the dating world since if you do get into a relationship the other person will eventually see the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:37 PM
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I'm not into them, but I'd still go for them before giving a second glance to a gymrat/muscular bro. One of my sisters is into this type of guy, she likes how they're graceful, slim, smooth skin, and no rough hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:33 PM
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Ah, okay. Thanks for clarifying. Yeah, idealistic beliefs that involve other people don't usually work out in my experience. It's better to be realistic, less ability to be hurt then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:22 PM
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I'm glad you eventually felt it! What was it like? Did something specific happen that made you feel it? Maybe it's because I compartmentalize too much. Like I've heard people describe romantic love as similar to the "afterglow" following sex...I've never felt that either. Apparently it's a soft, fuzzy feeling that makes you want to "pillow talk" and snuggle? But after sex I just head to the bathroom to clean myself up and get a warm towel for my guy. It's as though my brain says "sex is over now…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:20 PM
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But why does that mean your brain wouldn't make those chemicals anymore? That's not usually a conscious decision, from what I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:06 PM
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Agreed, I'd like to see some of these accounts and the reasons for why they thought they didn't want kids and then suddenly regret it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:04 PM
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Why's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:42 PM
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Objectophilia. I've seen that people can love all sorts of things, it's so odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:31 PM
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Thanks. Yeah, that's what I've been told. I appreciate seeing it play out in books, movies, and real life but my brain hasn't made those chemicals yet I guess 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:30 PM
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First, I think it's a very individual trait. In these discussions, my sexuality (as well as a few other women) reacts and manifests like the stereotypical male sexuality. Likewise there's men who have "feminine" sexuality. We can make generalizations but outliers will always exist who are more like the opposite sex. This isn't about politics, but biological facts. What I'm against is treating one sex's sexuality as "simple" or "basic" and the other as "complex" or "mysterious". This can only lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:28 PM
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This is going to be a little weird, but I'd like to know what it's like to experience romantic emotions. It seems that most people automatically feel it, especially in the beginning of a relationship. Like the lovey-dovey, "disney", hand holding, honestly kinda mushy sounding stuff. I love my FWB of course, but it's not how other people describe it, it's pragmatic and sexually satisfying yet I've never felt a "honeymoon" phase. Nor with any of the other people I dated, though that's to be expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:13 PM
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do you feel like making some sandwiches?” Dude, I nearly spit my tea out 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:58 PM
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No, you're weird for a woman Yes. every other woman here insists that their own sexuality is much more holistic, complex, and context-dependent than men's, while describing to us men how our sexualities are simplistic, linear stimulus-response pathways: tits and ass=boner. Every other woman? Or mostly the FDS crowd? Every woman here is smug and self-satisfied with the subtle, non-linear mystique she perceives her own sexuality to be. I prefer for female sexuality to not be seen as mysterious or …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:32 PM
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I agree, if all you're going to say is "lol" with no explanation, followup, or dialogue it's better to stay quiet and not troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:26 PM
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Since when is "lol" valid criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:15 PM
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God damn, a nit-picking bot...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:14 PM
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...are you one of those Edgy McEmoLords who believes that love "isn't real"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:13 PM
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I mean, you can masturbate to almost anything if you try hard enough...😆
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:11 PM
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I've only heard men say it, followed typically by myself and other women telling them that's not correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:09 PM
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In other news, water is wet and politicians lie. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:08 PM
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No offense to you, she sounds pretty suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 07:11 PM
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I know my FWB has dated a few Stacey's, but he has also dated a few Heather's and Karen's. Not everyone in his past was phenomenal otherwise he wouldn't have broken up with them. I'm glad he has chosen to be with me longer than any of them, so I'm doing something right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 07:09 PM
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1%? What happened to the oft-repeated 20%? Being unmarried or being in no relationship at all? Those are 2 different things. I'm never getting married but I'm in a LTR. A large amount of millennials, both sexes, aren't interested in marriage anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 07:04 PM
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Most rational and logical people would not consider it settling" just because they cannot date a 10 out of 10 "supermodel. And that's even if they want someone who looks like that. Frankly I don't find men who look that way attractive. In my opinion they look a vapid
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:34 PM
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They'd be fine with the muscles and money but not the height. I'm actually the tallest person in my family at 5'7"...my mom and sisters are 5'4" or shorter. They prefer guys who are only around my height or so, whereas I prefer men who are shorter than me. I'm the one who likes bellies and doesn't care about money. They all care a lot about money and 2 of them like muscular men. My other sister likes slim/lean men who essentially look like white kpop guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:18 PM
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But it's not a small minority of women. You're acting as though only like 5% of women would be into guys who aren't sitting 6' tall or ripped. I think you're comparing social media to real life relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:40 PM
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Many women, yes. I'd say 50-60%.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:15 PM
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OK, I've always heard it the way I wrote it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:00 PM
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Sure, most will.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 01:33 PM
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No I'm not talking about women dating women. I am referring to women who are interested in and attracted to male men dude guys who do not have a 6 pack or 6 figures or are 6' tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 01:32 PM
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If you're wanting to be with a woman who is interested in any of those, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 01:14 PM
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Don't be silly. Didn't anyone ever tell you that we only get wet for 6 pack, 6 ft, 6 figure, Adonis looking male model Chads who have horse dicks? But seriously this is what I've said all the time. Different women find different physical traits attractive. The men my mom and sisters find attractive do nothing for me, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 01:02 PM
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Adoption doesn't mean you can devote less of your life, love, money, time, and parenting to the child. It's not that adoption by itself is off the table, it's that I don't want to care for any child. Doesn't matter if they're related or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:57 AM
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That's fine, don't know why that means you have a dislike of porn though. I don't know what you define as "daddy issues" but I can say that while I'm not sexually vanilla (ie: only into oral and piv missionary sex) I don't have any extreme kinks. So now you've met at least one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:53 AM
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At least you are logical and admit that it is near universal rather than AWALT. You have some of my respect for understanding that not everyone is, most here do not. I agree that, for the women who do have hypergamous instincts, that our current use of social media is definitely affecting the way it is manifesting. Which honestly seems like a negative for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:50 AM
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I can say it's awesome to be childfree. I'm the oldest of 7 half-siblings and was the pseudo-parent for all of them. Waking up early to get them and myself ready for school, cooking them meals, making their lunches, driving/escorting them to their friends homes or tutoring, getting up in the middle of the night to give them a bottle or change a urine soaked blanket or hold their hair while the throw up, forced to give up my teenage nights or weekends so my parents could go to parties...I've alre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:43 AM
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Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:26 AM
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Is kinkshaming your kink?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:21 AM
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Women, for their part, add to the problem by denying that hypergamy exists at all. Or constantly trying to frame female and male behavior in some symmetrical paradigm that distorts our understanding of each type of behavior. Hypergamy, as some define it here, is just someone trying to get the best mate they can. (Which no, not everyone tries to do.) This would apply equally to men and women. Do you have a different definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:01 AM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:51 AM
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That's fine, you don't have to watch porn. I am demisexual. Porn is still good for wanking because I have a good imagination and can think of me and my guy in those scenarios/positions. It's good inspiration.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:45 AM
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Not true, it took me years to find a sex partner because of my strangeness. Sex is not cheap to me as a demisexual high libido woman, it's borderline sacred. What I'm saying is if people are preemptively judging your character for no reason, to hell with them. If they're going to be watching you anyway, live your life as you normally would. Don't kill your values for anybody. Eventually people who don't have a terminal case of head-in-ass will see they were wrong about you and will perceive you …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:43 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:37 AM
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That's why I tend to watch gay porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:34 AM
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Porn is for everyone 👍👍👍
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:10 AM
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Our sexuality is not based on being wanted, but wanting something desirable, old women are not as desirable. Yeah, of course. That is how the overwhelming majority of sexuality works. My point is that both sexes lose smv as they get older. So sure, older women aren't going to be as desirable but if you're the same age or older, your body won't be as desirable either. A young man in his physical and metabolic prime of 20-25 is going to be better looking than when he's 40+, and I'd say this is tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:58 AM
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That's why at some point you just need to stop caring what other people think and do what you know is right in your life/values.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 01:12 AM
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What do you mean? I think some taxation is necessary for society to run, but much of it is currently being misused or misappropriated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 01:09 AM
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Then they probably aren't identifying it correctly. Eros is lustful love, it's all about the sex and hormones and physical pleasure...nothing wrong with that, but isn't the basis for a longterm relationship. Resource exploitation would be extremely difficult to confuse with pragma, since the core features involve compromise, patience, longterm goals, and a desire between both partners to make it last.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:10 AM
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It isn't inherently misogynistic, no. I actually have 2 real life friends who are mgtow (though obviously they don't advertise it). Honestly I've opted out of marriage and parenting too, so can easily relate with throwing off traditionalist shackles. Mgtow as it's base is a pretty healthy ideology, just like RP is. The problem is you get men who twist it from the original message and just use it as a platform to smack talk in an echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:05 AM
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Regarding point 3, I don't think this is true anymore. At least not for millennial or gen X. There's a lot...like a hell of a lot...of men in these age ranges who don't stay in shape, haven't taken care of their skin/overall health, and aren't making as much as their parents did at same point in life. I look at the Facebook profiles of the guys I went to high school with and most look older than they should. I'd definitely say they had higher physical and sexual attractiveness when they were sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:01 AM
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You neglected to mention the 4th category based on personal love/enduring companionship. Sometimes called "pragma". Staying in love rather than falling in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:53 PM
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You probably don't suck, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:49 PM
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Probably not as related to the excitement in their lives, as much as their core personality type. Extrovert vs introvert, adrenaline junkie vs comfort lover, people who like loud music and crowds vs people who enjoy quiet and solitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:25 PM
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Do not assume that I vote for such things. I'm a libertarian. I don't care about women as a group, I care about my own involuntary contributions and resulting income.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:18 PM
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Doesn't mean that those of us who are a net positive as individuals enjoy giving up so much of our paychecks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:06 PM
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Which part is only recent? The society/fact that if you were middle class or lower you worked a shitty dangerous job regardless of whether you were a man, woman, or child? Yeah, that has been basically forever with it only changing relatively recently. And even now there are countries where children die from cave ins or mudslides or breathing in coal dust. Life was never kind to the poor and in many cases still isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 07:22 PM
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Even the independent aggressive hard working woman in the west is doing so through the efforts of men as without the sanctions, developments, and protections that men as a whole have created, she, and most any woman would not be able to do so. It's almost like we live in a society of both men and women, who contribute in various ways and different amounts. And it's almost like this has occurred throughout human history with our best chances of survival being dependent on working together rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:43 PM
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How would going through her phone specifically give you an idea though? I don't have Instagram and haven't used dating apps in over 10 years, do they keep all your messages forever (assuming you can send private messages on IG, I thought it was open responses like Twitter)? Or are you talking about looking through her texts? Idk if even that would be though...I clean out my texts every 6 months just to get rid of spam, old conversations, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:53 PM
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This is certainly frustrating and painful for men who fall for women who act like this. If they see this happening though, they dodged a bullet. Never a good idea to get into a relationship with someone who says one thing and proceeds to do the opposite. Stay away from women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:12 PM
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All he did was talk about women who are either hypocritical or potentially manipulative, not "the nature of women". Like men, we aren't some hivemind monolith where we all think the same or do the same things. Talking about a subset of a group is not the same as talking about the entirety of a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:09 PM
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So with the above points in tow, do men and women in relationships often talk past one another and does this explain why women complain more about communication issues? Almost certainly. I am a masculine kind of female and always had a much harder time conversing with the women I dated than the men. Part of this could just be autism, but in my experience women...idk...sidestep? Use doublespeak? They don't tend to talk as bluntly, like instead of telling you something straight up they'll approach…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:36 PM
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I'm not hung up on the words, I was working within your analogy. The message is pretty damn clear...if you think you're getting less than a previous partner did, you assume the response is to be upset. That is certainly valid for men and women who see their partners past as a scorecard. I may not agree with it, but it is a valid way of looking at things. I do not see it like that however. I'm not dating Past Guy, I'm dating Current Guy. Current Guy has more life experience and learned more about…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:19 PM
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Okay? That's fine for you, not every woman or man views sex as casually as you. To me sex is a very big deal and I only want to share it with someone I have a sexual attraction to, which takes a while to occur. Physical attraction is immediate, sexual attraction takes time. This isn't a male vs female thing, this is a pro-casual sex vs anti-casual sex thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:47 AM
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Let's say you're dating a guy for I don't know 5 months and he doesn't really like taking you to nice places to eat or buying you expensive things but then one day you find out that his previous girlfriend went to 5 stars restaurants with him and got a new handbag every month. You would be upset right? No, because obviously he's not into being used as a walking wallet, and has learned to vet against golddiggers. If I'm not a golddigger, and I wasn't in the relationship with him for expensive shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:43 AM
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Just want to say that not immediately having sex is not necessarily about either of those things. It could be about getting men to "act right" whatever that means, or it could be about vetting against men who are only looking for a hookup/ONS. Both are certainly reasons women do so. But there's another reason everyone, men and women, always forget; that some people just aren't interested in sex that quickly. And not because they don't find you attractive or are trying to string you along! But si…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:37 AM
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Based solely on large number of anecdotal evidence and some own experience, i would claim that many women traits the avarage "blue pilled beta" provider (the agreeable guy who works his ass off to make her happy) as a personal punching bag, whom she having no desire for (eg sexless marriage). Some of them do, yes. This kind of treatment by bitchy women seems to be one of the biggest factors in the growth of the mgtow and red pill communities. It's honestly despicable behavior. In a nutshell, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 08:31 AM
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In that respect the Quran says: Al-Nisaa’ 4:34: Men are responsible for women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. So, we men are supposed to be paying for them women. That's fine for you, I'm an atheist and don't care about religious reasoning, regardless of which belief system it is. Furthermore, that is even a biology-wide invariant: Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such asso…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 08:10 AM
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So you're fine with giving a dowry directly to the woman when she agrees to marry you, and provide for her during the entire marriage as well as give her alimony for some time after divorce if it occurs. Other than the first part, sounds like pretty standard traditional western marriage. I don't care about any religious beliefs obviously, but am anti-marriage myself. I'm also not in favor of relationships where one person essentially pays or gives an allowance to the other one, but that's more o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 07:18 AM
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No, I mean a relationship where you're not spending money, like I just stated. And you're aging as well, so also losing physical and sexual appeal, because that's just what happens to humans. My FWB is 50 now, and we've been sex partners since he was 37 and I was 23. I'm obviously still attracted to him but will also admit he was better looking when he was younger at the beginning of our relationship. This is simple biology, nothing bad. And not based on "love", but on love. If a male is incapab…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:36 AM
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Why wouldn't you prefer a relationship where money isn't even mentioned or cared about, and the transaction is trading your love + sex for her love + sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:12 AM
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Listen. Grow up. There is simply no such thing as a free lunch. Furthermore, if the woman doesn't need money, because she's got her own, then skip her, and look instead for one that does. Never thought I'd see the day someone argued in favor of sugar babies being the best kind of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:04 AM
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This ⬆️⬆️⬆️ 🎶"The only heaven I'll be sent to, is when I'm alone with you" 🎶
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:06 AM
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Right, it's not like he's a young male pumped full of fresh sex hormones lol. He's normal libido for a 50 year old who is still sexually active. My own libido matches to yours, not his...but that's why toys were created! 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:43 AM
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How old are you? My guy is 50. When he was in his 30s that was normal but libido usually decreases with age. I think 6x a day 7 days a week is high for most males, according to what I've read on the AskMen and sex subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:31 AM
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Either of us could have other partners if we chose to, absolutely. However we've been monogamous for 13 years and both of us are fine with that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:08 AM
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Nah, mine is just high. I'd say he's normal the majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:05 AM
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I'm not traditionalist whatsoever, and pay for both myself and the guy whenever I date. Being the provider is my jam. It is 100% a great idea to have this standard for yourself. At the very minimum, going Dutch should be the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 09:48 PM
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Okay, I don't do hookups or casual sex, so the only sex I have had is within my FWB relationship. If you're talking about spinning plates where I was one of the plates myself I guess I wouldn't care? Idk. Not interested in that lifestyle. My guy can't keep up with me, so I'm not in that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 06:57 PM
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I personally have a problem with it for 2 reasons: If I'm in a relationship with someone I very much expect sex to be on the table. Nothing against asexual people or low libido people, it just isn't compatible with my needs. Unfortunately men are more physically limited in how often they can get it up, so if he's trying to share 1 dick amongst many women, I'm not getting enough of a very important part of my relationship. Stds. Plain and simple. I've never had any sexually transmitted diseases o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 05:00 PM
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Who/what is Jan?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:48 PM
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Delicious word salad, could use some croutons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:00 PM
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Interesting. I don't understand why some of those traits would be acceptable in a partner, much less attractive, but different strokes for different folks. The traits I'm attracted to in a man are similar sense of humor, similar intelligence, blunt communication, kindness (towards myself and others), emotionally stable and open, empathetic, type B/laid back personality, slightly feminine and passive, doesn't give a shit about gender roles, sexually adventurous, confident in his abilities but wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 11:58 AM
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I don't think being attracted to traits like dominance and aloofness makes you broken. Women who like dominance are very likely traditionalists, if not in their whole lives then at least in the home/when alone with their guy. So women who are anti-gender roles probably don't select for dominance, or are actively turned off by it. I have no idea what kind of woman is attracted to aloofness. In my experience, if someone is acting aloofness they're just not interested in spending time with me and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 10:40 AM
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Much applause 👏 👏👏👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:12 PM
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Please do!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:09 PM
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For the same reason that all FDS women and a handful of RP men dislike and/or have doubts about my 13 year FWB relationship. Because it's atypical, doesn't work for the overwhelming majority of people, and flies in the face of a significant amount of "facts" spoken of here. Therefore either you/I are blatantly lying about our happiness and the happiness of our partners or we're lying about how our relationships work. Fwiw, I think if you're upfront and honest about wanting multiple partners and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:04 PM
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Thank you, I appreciate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:01 PM
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Leagues are stupid concepts in dating. This isn't football, this is trying to find a partner. If you ask someone out, and they say yes, and you get into a healthy relationship...who cares if you're in the same looks level or income bracket or class or whatever else determines a "league"? If you're both happy just tell the haters to go piss up a rope.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:42 PM
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Gender identity is inherent to an individual. Whether cis or trans, that's just who you are born as. Gender roles are created by the society you're living in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:39 PM
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And it blows my mind to see the level of attraction and interest a woman could have towards you flush down the drain instantly. Sounds like someone into traditional gender roles and male stoicism. so I can go from a very cocky confident man. to a man talking about his issues. And it blows my mind to see the level of attraction and interest a woman could have towards you flush down the drain instantly...they are not interested in men that show vulnerability. they are not rude about it but you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:28 PM
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I think you may just be consuming lumpy milk lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 10:30 PM
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For online dating men have to have a good profile, versus women who can just rock up with whatever and still get tons of matches. Or even just being on the street or out a bar. Does it matter that this is usually for ONS/casual sex, which isn't what most women are looking for? Or are you counting any attention as good/preferable?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 09:06 PM
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Hmmm. It's possible they're severely up in price by now. Last time I was in Nevada was 2015 and the guys on the street were handing out flyers advertising $300 for a girlfriend experience of 2 hours. Could be much more expensive in 2021... Still, I think it'd be worth it. I'd do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:58 PM
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The average man has to put way more effort into dating than the average woman, and the results will not even be close. By the results not being close, which aspects are you referring to? Do you mean a 8/10 guy has to put in the effort to remain a 8/10 only to get into a relationship with a 6/10 woman? (Looks only) Or you mean a guy has to bring more to the table and the resulting relationship will still have her bringing less? (Effort, care, money, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:55 PM
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Girlfriend experience at the Bunny Ranch, yo. Last I checked it wasn't more than a couple hundred dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:50 PM
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When women bring up about their inability to achieve orgasm or sexual pleasure in general, you'll often hear them blaming men talking about how terrible men are at sex, which is ironic since men always achieve orgasm when a woman has virtually no skills to influence it. I think it is unfair to lay blame on your partner if you know there's issues with how your body obtains pleasure. That being said, there are women who have literally zero problems with having orgasms and there are men who do have…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 06:18 PM
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I guess it's a good thing most people aren't cannibals or coprophagic then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:55 PM
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Ha! That is a good way of putting it. It's a version of the r/MenWritingWomen sub lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:49 PM
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I guess they can. It's only morally wrong if it hurts or endangers other people and animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:48 PM
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I agree completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:23 PM
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You're very rare in this sub 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:06 PM
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I believe Tough and I were both referring to men, but sure. Let's all be cheese together. I like a nice double creme brie.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:05 PM
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If you eat too much of course
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:03 PM
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Like voluntary euthanasia?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:42 PM
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That doesn't mean both those women aren't suffering from one or more of the aforementioned issues. Many people have shit childhoods. You can be a rural high school level education lower-class farmer woman, or an urban Masters graduate upper-class lawyer. Doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:42 PM
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Awalt, solipsism, non accountability and hamstering as well as their ways to gain control are inbuild. These are due to poor or neglectful "nurturing". Their parents screwed up and the resulting woman hasn't had life shit on them hard enough to make them reconsider their personal failures. Anyone who is longer on this planet knows the ways women are. Knows the ways some women who either act like trash, have mental disorders, are narcissistic, think misandry is okay, are insecure, have codependen…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:32 PM
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You don't have to tell them they suck at sex using those words though. I agree that would be a shit thing to do. But you can say something like "that doesn't feel great, can you put your fingers like this instead" or say "this position isn't doing it for me, can we switch places". My guy had 12 partners before me and while he was great at some sex he wasn't good at other sex...part of this was because we were trying things neither of us had done before, or because my body doesn't react the way h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:27 PM
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But what I don't understand and want to understand is why we never quite hear about the other side: too few previous partners and lack of experience. It's important to realize that these are two separate categories. Someone can be like me (one partner and lots of varied sexual experience) or be like my FWB was (a dozen partners but little variation of sexual experience). If you have only a couple longterm partners but you're very trusting of them and try every sexual thing you've both wanted...y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:17 PM
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It honestly kind of amazes me how so many women can repeatedly read that type of advice and not feel like they are being patronized. That's part of the reason I don't go there. Advice for me always seemed like it needed to be difficult. The more uncomfortable it felt hearing, the more it probably applied to me. Not necessarily. This is true in some cases, certainly, but other advice is discomforting because it doesn't apply to you and the person giving said advice simply is making assumptions ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:02 PM
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That's kinda how it seems with most of the people here, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:23 AM
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It tells about your nature and how to handle it correct. For a certain type of woman, yes. But it is incorrect to believe all women have the same nature/behaviors. There's things written in RP about women claiming it's part of our "nature" that are disturbing. It even tells how to really make a woman hapoy and fulfilled and keep her long term. For a certain type of woman with certain goals in life, yes. But it is odd to assume all women care about the same shit. Is there anything in the sidebar …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:18 AM
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What happens after she finds out she's been fooled and has fallen for a fake "alpha" man?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:06 AM
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I can see how being “submissive” can be beneficial for a woman in a relationship with a man, as men value others deferring to him and will likely treat a woman who does that better. Threw up a little bit reading this, ngl... Okay, yeah, exaggeration. If a woman decides she wants to be submissive to her man who likes that, no skin off my nose. Not my business. Hope they're very happy. But as I was raised conservative/religious and to believe no man would want me because I had "problems" being sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:04 AM
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I can see how being “submissive” can be beneficial for a woman in a relationship with a man, as men value others deferring to him and will likely treat a woman who does that better. Threw up a little bit reading this, ngl... Okay, yeah, exaggeration. If a woman decides she wants to be submissive to her man who likes that, no skin off my nose. Not my business. Hope they're very happy. But as I was raised conservative/religious and to believe no man would want me because I had "problems" being sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:04 AM
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...and then what? I'm not trying to be dense, I just don't have experience with "alphas" in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:44 AM
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But if you destroy yourself you won't be able to eat desserts anymore, and that would be sad because desserts are delicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:35 AM
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Excuse me, sir, but mature cheese is usually more attractive than immature cheese.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:34 AM
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I know some male feminists, but they don't have/do most of that stuff. Also, 2 of them are gay, so...not into charming women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:32 AM
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But if him being "fake" bypasses her filters how can she tell?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:28 AM
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It's like finding out a portal to Hell is real, it's just on discord instead of a giant hole in Siberia.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:17 AM
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Someone being scared of this. Would she just break off all communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:08 AM
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Hey everyone, I made extra popcorn 🍿 🍿🍿🍿 Who else wants to Comment Watch?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:39 AM
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See, Tough, people like you are why I have a fallout bunker...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:37 AM
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Okay, thanks lol. To go back to that point, what if...and this is a huge if...some of us started to not talk to each other like we're assuming our conversation partner is "literally Hitler"? Wouldn't that be just a fucking novel concept? 😏 Like you could say to me "Cim, I really hate it when my ex girlfriend did xyz" and I can be all "Tough, my dude, that does sound like she was a bitch". Then we can talk about how craptactular it is when people suck, and be on the same page. Then I'll order us …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:35 AM
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Well we all know which one the mainstream accepts eh Yes. Although I grew up in a conservative religious household, so really should be used to hearing how crap women are. 😑 I understand you, yet if that kind of language against men is to be accepted, so too must that kind of language against men I know you meant to say women in one of these spaces...which one?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:27 AM
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A man learning how to be arousing bypasses her filters and scares her. Legitimately curious as to what this would even look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:24 AM
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Yes! Thank you! Quob almighty, someone else sees it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:22 AM
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I like some parts of RP, but it gets tiresome in other parts, due constantly being informed that you're a terrible human because you happen to be born with a vagina. It's like when men are constantly told they're terrible people for simply being born with a penis. Can't we all just agree that doing this to each other is shit, and not hold Person A responsible for the things Person B did? Treat one another as individuals whenever possible, please and thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:20 AM
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I know, it's not like Aba & Preach where they react to preexisting videos most of the time. But even during the unscripted stuff, idk where the hell they picking up these rampant gold digger princesses lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:03 AM
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I suppose the best way would be to either talk to each other on an individual basis like we're doing now, or to try and create irl support groups on sites like Meetup.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:14 PM
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That's what I mean. If only one person in the relationship is benefitting then both people should either fix it together or it should just end.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:12 PM
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Lol I wish... Regular middle class schlub here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:09 PM
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Then it's not a relationship worth having.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:07 PM
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To be fair, all the examples are trash women. It's not like any kind or non-misandric women are interviewed on these shows. Which is fine, the point of these is to show men what the dangers are. But after watching these same interviews it really is disgusting and ridiculous how the women are acting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:06 PM
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This is close but I would say that while these men had abusive relationships, the amount of help they can get is limited, let alone help from people that talk to them in a way they understand and will actually respond and engage with them on their level. Yes, I agree wholeheartedly with this. In the US, we have hardly any assistance for men in abusive situations. Most DV shelters don't have rooms for males, try to recommend them to "anger management" classes despite being the victims, and we sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 09:52 PM
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None taken. So why do they want really tall guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 07:44 PM
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Now ask any woman and she'll state she wants a guy over 6ft. This claim gets repeated so often but what exactly is so awesome and special about guys over 6 ft tall? I'm sorry, but that's just too much. I'm 5'7" and my guy is 5'10"...at least I don't have to stand on tiptoe to kiss him. If he was something ridiculous like 6'5" we'd look so disproportionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 07:41 PM
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I discovered red pill sites when I was 19. A lot of people are surprised when I say it helped me break out of my conservative/tradcon childhood brainwashing...but it did. The RP blogs that I had found back then weren't as focused on the "evils" of "female nature", rather about giving men the motivation to think for themselves. Don't allow others to determine your life path, keep your mind and body active, if you don't want kids that's actually okay, improve yourself, be confident in your abiliti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 06:18 PM
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I don't have any rewards to give, so here you go: 🥇🏆🏅
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:13 PM
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I don't have any rewards to give, so here you go: 🥇🏆🏅
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:13 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:10 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:10 PM
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Endowment can be worked with using toys or different angles/sex furniture. If she agreed to be in a relationship with someone who she finds so unattractive that it literally affects her sexual experience, that sounds like a her problem. She wasn't fair to either one of you, in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:03 PM
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Lol I love this response 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:00 PM
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Even if they are only providing for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:54 PM
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Yeah I find him a little bit attractive when hes a normal guy but far more when hes playing as Rumplestiltskin
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:50 PM
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Maybe it's a more rural thing. I went to public school from a 6th grade until 12 And we had Sadie Hawkins day every single year
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:47 PM
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Moo, bitches 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:14 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:09 PM
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It could also mean that your brain doesn't bother with attaching something/using "thinking power" on something that it sees as futile as those characters don't exist. It could be this, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 01:15 PM
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Yeah, it's good that not everyone is attracted to the same exact thing!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:42 PM
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Fake scenarios? On the internet? It's more likely than you think! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:01 PM
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Definitely!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 11:50 AM
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Right?! 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 11:47 AM
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His accent is wonderful, yes! The age thing doesn't bother me, my partner is 15 years older than me lol. I guess the inhuman aspects (sharper teeth, lizard like skin, claw fingernails, odd eyes) are a big part of the attractiveness for me. Conventional is so...boring. Vanilla. Mundane. I love it when someone just looks beyond the norm, maybe they're much shorter than average or have different color eyes or extra fingers or vitiligo. They're just so different, and it's refreshing to see how mold-…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 11:46 AM
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The real truth is you guys like to cope by labeling attractive charismatic confident men bad boys, sociopaths and abusers. Precisely this. There's a few RP guys here who don't do this, and kudos to them, but for the most part you've nailed it on the head. They see a woman talking about her longterm partner and assume he is a dark triad, super alpha, criminal background Chad. It doesn't matter if she says he is actually a nerd or short or overweight or lower income or literally any of the things …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 11:31 AM
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This is going to sound really weird given that I play a ton of videogames, watch anime every week, and have both a Webtoons and Tapas account...but I don't find fictional characters attractive. I can give you examples of fictional characters in live action that don't look entirely human (for example, Rumplestiltskin in Once Upon A Time just really does it for me, he's so deliberately insane, and wears leather pants, delicious). But there's like this mental barrier to finding fake people attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:46 AM
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Thank you! I love your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:33 AM
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If the men are completely passive, of course. But if you reread my comment, that's not what I'm talking about. Apparently none of you have ever had a Sadie Hawkins Day at school, and it shows... Statistically this should be impossible, but here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:32 AM
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That's true. I've always disliked that term. Unicorns don't exist, full stop. At least call us a real animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:28 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:26 AM
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I'm completely against forcing anyone into gender roles that they don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:26 AM
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Unfortunately I agree with you. Wish I didn't, really don't like having biases based on looks. But every time I see a guy or gal with lots of tattoos, it's like an automatic -20 attractiveness modifier. Worst part is I have no clue why so don't know how to get rid of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 01:04 AM
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Now that is an awesome band name.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:51 AM
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Interesting. So I take it you admit men can be hypergamous as well? Since I know a few men who got divorced because their wives stopped being kind/started being completely bitchy 24/7...ergo they lost the kindness keeping him in the relationship...so his clock began ticking. After attempting (and failing) to fix the relationship by going to couples therapy, going to a retreat together, etc they left. Their hypergamy wasn't based on their wives material contributions, but her emotional one. When …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:28 AM
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Yes, that's what I was referring to. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:59 PM
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As long as she have options, your relationship is not safe while you are on the ground. Trust me, I've been there. She must always see you as her best option, or at least the potential to be so. Speaking from an entirely personal standpoint, this is what I disagree with. I, and a minority of other women, don't fulfill this part of the ideology. Again, talking purely anecdotally, I know that my FWB is not my best option if we're discussing status, money, physical attractiveness, strength, etc. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:59 PM
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