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| 1 | Is it possible to have pop culture products where the characters are single by default?You did it, you figured out the joke! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Is it possible to have pop culture products where the characters are single by default?They gotcha covered on that one! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 04:43 PM |
| 5 | Discussion: Why do young women see a serious realtionship as a threat to their career?Dating with the intention of establishing a long term partnership takes time, which is often wasted before reaching relationship stage; even then, men have expectations of sex within relationships that can be disruptive to someone with a tight schedule who would be perfectly happy to cut sex out of their lineup to get ahead on their projects or to invest more time in work-related friendships. An hour a day five days a week is an hour a day five days a week. Adding a partner of any gender to your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 06:51 AM |
| 1 | Is it possible to have pop culture products where the characters are single by default?Without love, you can save the world! Crazy Ex Girlfriend (spoiler) ends with all of the leads, including the eponymous crazy ex girlfriend, happily single and pursuing their personal passions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 04:40 AM |
| 7 | [Q4Women] How would you react if you caught your male partner cheating on you due to a lack of sex?This entire scenario seems like a bizarre nightmare. Even with your modifications, the problems I described remain: he wants to have sex with women who aren't me enough to do it, he doesn't trust me or trust/value himself enough to talk about it, figure shit out, or break up like a decent human and sneaks around instead to avoid an issue that he knows is an issue. That's an issue of character. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 03:18 AM |
| 21 | [Q4Women] How would you react if you caught your male partner cheating on you due to a lack of sex?Finding out that he just decided to fuck off and have sex with someone else rather than making any effort to solve the problem with me in the context of a monogamous relationship makes it seem like 1) he considers sex with me fungible with sex with a random woman 2) he distrusts me with his concerns 3) he thinks 'talking about the sex he wants' counts as 'pressuring' me what the fuck. How I ended up dating a guy like this is the real question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Why do men have far more varied tastes in women than women in men?You've made several new and unsound arguments since you made your first comment, which was itself ultimately useless to the conversation, as you failed to meet basic standards of good faith engagement. I understand perfectly well that your comments have been disingenuous and your arguments are poorly constructed in the context of meaningful conversation on this topic or in general. There's no reason to take someone who engages the way you have engaged with this seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 01:54 PM |
| 3 | Why do men have far more varied tastes in women than women in men?The JMF study doesn't support OP's conclusions. Message sending behavior != attraction. The EASP study speculates on different effect sizes based on study methods, but cites Wood & Brumbaugh specifically in developing its own metrics to assess attractiveness, neither of which are an indictment or a contradiction to the refutation of OP supported by Wood & Brumbaugh's study. Out of curiosity, when you read, in the second paragraph of the results, "This finding also indicates that there is conside… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 02:46 AM |
| 3 | Why do men have far more varied tastes in women than women in men?Your response to the categorical rejection of OP's points based on a study which demonstrates the lack of evidence supporting his claims: ignore the ways the study engages with OP, "male raters agree that "all wamen are queenz"; while female raters disagree which icky guy is the ickiest." I'll call you the next time the club soccer team needs help setting up, thanks. ... "Under top comment from a person whose flair literally says "Your friendly neighborhood misandrist"." I would have stuck with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 01:43 AM |
| 7 | Why do men have far more varied tastes in women than women in men?You didn't do a very good job of finding it, just as you're not doing a very good job of engaging in a coherent debate without moving every goalpost in sight with wild abandon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 01:28 AM |
| 6 | Why do men have far more varied tastes in women than women in men?Here. Fifteen seconds, Google, and engaging with any good faith whatsoever go a long way! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/19 11:48 PM |
| 8 | Q4Women: how did you feel when you first discovered Red Pill theory?I learned about it through my friends making jokes about it on other websites, thought it might be interesting, learned more about it, and felt it wasn't a useful system for me to use to try to understand the world. It's not how I think, and it's not how the people I enjoy spending time with think. Of course, at 22, I'm far past the wall, but I first read TRP at 17, already balanced delicately atop the wall in anticipation of my descent into haggishness. This certainly has influenced my percepti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/19 02:07 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (21 April 2019)Yeah, she's a physicist and I'm honestly so amazed by the way, through the right person, a fundamental understanding of like, math, simple machines, and one's own body can translate to such beautiful movement! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/19 12:18 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (21 April 2019)It's a Chinese infantry weapon, basically a sabre on a four-foot stick - she's a pudao performer on a wushu team, and it's very cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/19 02:08 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (21 April 2019)I think I'll be alpha widowed once my current girlfriend and I break up because now I can never date anyone who can't wield pudao, she's got me fucked up guys. :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/19 11:05 PM |
| 12 | What women mean when they say things like "sex would ruin our friendship"? Why friendship and sex are mutually exclusive?I'm bisexual, and while I can only provide insight on hetero men/gay women, there is a pronounced difference. I've had sex with several of my (lesbian/bi) female friends and have not encountered the situations that I speculate on here based on relationships with hetero men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 04:20 PM |
| 7 | What women mean when they say things like "sex would ruin our friendship"? Why friendship and sex are mutually exclusive?If only one would comment! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 03:42 PM |
| 30 | What women mean when they say things like "sex would ruin our friendship"? Why friendship and sex are mutually exclusive?Men typically get more possessive (among other things) when you've had sex with them. It changes the typically-not-that-close friendship because, in most cases, hetero sex seems to accompany, not universally but frequently enough to be a notable risk, a sense of 'ownership' between people who were previously on even footing with regards to their mutual standards of behavior; the guy will get weird about it if you sleep with someone else, but may expect you to be totally cool with it if he sleeps… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 02:50 PM |
| 6 | In a relationship/marriage, do you/would you have opposite sex friends?I'm bi and the woman I'm dating is also bi and neither of us can talk to anyone but each other. It's tough, but you get used to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 11:33 PM |
| 1 | What are asian (east,south, southeast, middle eastern, etc.) males not appealing to women?I'm white. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 05:35 AM |
| 2 | What are asian (east,south, southeast, middle eastern, etc.) males not appealing to women?My first boyfriend was Palestinian and my longest-running LTR was with a Chinese-American man. Asian men don't make up a large portion of the US population. If you're collecting evidence based on 'who have women I observe been dating', they don't have the numerical representation to make up a majority. Like any racial/ethnic minority in the US, there are barriers to overcome in interracial relationships, and there's been less US media attention paid to overcoming negative attitudes towards Asian… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 05:09 AM |
| 1 | So what makes you a catch OR interesting??I'm 22, so only slightly past the wall and have only just begun to rot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Those of you in a relationship, who is better looking: you or your partner?I recently started dating a woman who's about my height and a bit butcher than I am. We're both snappy dressers in our own ways and quite good-looking, in my opinion. Gay dating has different SMV/RMV rules. We fit very different niches, despite both being lanky 5'9 blondes, which makes comparison difficult. I think we're about matched. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 04:39 PM |
| 7 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Men should absolutely do this and the women they treat poorly as a pseudopolitical power-play should come date me instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 09:29 PM |
| 6 | Q4Fems(in relationships), do you feel like your man fits the TRP/RPW descriptor of an alpha male? Do you think that it matters if they are alpha or beta?100% of my relationships with men have been built on them being nice to me, and 100% of the time when I've broken up with a man it's been because he was less nice to me than he had been previously. Dating me is not something anyone who consistently holds RP values would reasonably want to do, which is no great loss to me or to any hypothetical RP guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 10:26 PM |
| 7 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (07 April 2019)Hey guys, don't hold back, what do you think of my tinder profile? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 07:28 PM |
| 3 | People who refer to other women as a "pick me": can you help define the concept and why it's a bad thing, in your eyes?I actually have a rare disorder that causes me to be perfectly body-hairless and sweat pure jasmine oil and the ability to orgasm instantly from PIV sex, and ugly feminists like you have bullied and excluded me for these traits and for no other reason all my life. :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/19 07:24 PM |
| 5 | People who refer to other women as a "pick me": can you help define the concept and why it's a bad thing, in your eyes?People name things they see regularly occurring in order to usefully discuss them. 'Pick-me-ism' is as silly a thing to make oneself a part of as 'white-knighting', but people do it anyway, and terms to describe these behaviors, particularly in contexts in which they're annoying/derailing of conversations/unnecessary, spring up quite organically, regardless of your personal value judgements on their use. I'd like to see fewer raccoons in my front yard, and I'd like to see fewer people making the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/19 07:22 PM |
| 3 | People who refer to other women as a "pick me": can you help define the concept and why it's a bad thing, in your eyes?I'm sorry, which idea do you think ought to be consigned to the trash based on the concept that excessive performative availability can be obnoxious? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/19 07:00 PM |
| 6 | People who refer to other women as a "pick me": can you help define the concept and why it's a bad thing, in your eyes?Ugh, right, feminism has gone off the deep end! I was talking to my (female) friend about it last night (because I would never just be platonic friends with a man, I tried before and they all fell in love with me because I'm very hot and fun, but also self-aware and aware of my Woman Nature enough to know that leading men on is bad) and anyway I'm so glad someone put it like this, I hate how women always live in such denial about their biology! I'm just really good at cooking and love to be in t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/19 06:56 PM |
| 4 | People who refer to other women as a "pick me": can you help define the concept and why it's a bad thing, in your eyes?I've never referred to another woman by that term - I think it does more harm than good to share that kind of language - but I've definitely thought it. Consider it an analogue for the male concept of a 'white knight'. It's obnoxious, but not especially harmful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/19 06:51 PM |
| 3 | Would you prefer Bumble IRL?I deliberately applied to women's colleges, and now attend one, to create a barrier between myself and 'unknown men talking to me'. It's utterly delightful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/19 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Do you choose the 6 foot skinny fat guy with an average face or the 5’5” guy who is handsome and muscular? They have same job and same age.I don't have a preference for muscular men, and I'm 5'9'' so 5'5'' is on the boundary of what I'd consider a potentially prohibitive height difference. I lean towards tall average guy in whichever case may be at hand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 04:37 AM |
| 2 | Do you wear makeup?I'm a woman, I wear makeup, I like it as art (sometimes I draw extra eyes on my face, I think everyone should feel entitled to do so, it is delightful) and I like that people tend to treat me better when I have a 'conventional' face of makeup on. It also acts as a deterrent to touching my own skin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/19 01:00 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: specifically to the bisexual people here, do you experience attraction to men vs women differently? If so, how? How is courting different between men and women?I like masculine-of-center women and feminine-of-center men, though I don't necessarily think that binary or spectrum or whatever tells a complete story about what I value in a partner. In the context of gay relationships, I'm a verse top. Men tend to find this surprising. I typically don't tell partners I'm bi until we've actually had a few dates and know that we like each other, because men can make things really weird and lesbian women are also sometimes not into it. Back when I was a flighty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 02:13 AM |
| 4 | Off Topic Thread: Welcome the New Mods (31 March 2019)New mods, you absolute bastards, welcome to hell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/19 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (24 March 2019)I have a 2007 Toyota Rav-4 and I love the damn thing. My best friend swears by her Corolla. Toyotas are a great call if you're going a 'used' direction, in my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/19 03:47 AM |
| 2 | [Q4W] Is your attraction for a man based on what you can get from it, or from your attraction to who he is as a person?Most people can't do anything for me that I couldn't or wouldn't do for myself. If I like a man, it's because I like him as an individual. Same with a woman. The sort of things that I could 'get' from most men are interchangeable, and if I just wanted someone to pick up bills occasionally, I wouldn't be single right now, I'd date the first man who could offer me that desirable scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/19 03:43 AM |
| 1 | You don't hate men, you hate capitalism.Counterpoint: you don't hate women, you hate capitalism. Many social problems originate not from inherent biological distinctions between groups, but as either a function of people forced into ill-fitting social roles by the threat or legacy of state violence or actively because of a hyper-competitive mentality fostered under late-stage capitalism applied to existing sociocultural prejudices and institutions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/19 07:58 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about men giving women looks ratings?I had a guy friend in high school who came to me at one point agonizing over two girls who had both asked him to prom - a 'six' and a 'seven', though he knew the girl that he described as a 'six' better. Four years later, I'm still making fun of him for saying those words out loud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/19 02:03 PM |
| 4 | How would you treat a bastard boy your husband brings home to the Castle?Given half an hour I will adore any child. My beloved husband brings home a kid and says 'we have to raise this kid', well, the kid just won the fucking lottery, he's my son now and I already love him. The 'he's my bastard' part might strain my relationship with my husband a bit until we talked it out, but jesus fuck, it's not the kid's fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/19 12:55 AM |
| 8 | Q4Women: How many alpha males have you had sex with and when will you stop?I'm twenty-two and absolutely no one I've had sex with would qualify as an 'alpha male' by this sub's often-moderately-ridiculous standards. I have, however, liked all of them. I hope to continue having sex exclusively with people I like. Like, I'm sincerely in the dark as to how people are out there having any amount of anonymous sex with washboard-abs'd Adonises. I'm pretty sure that's what Grindr is for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/19 09:00 PM |
| 21 | Q4W: Why shouldn't I be suspicious and mistrustful of women?Women are people who do human people things, subject to the cultural influences that define and prescribe womanhood. Like most people, women are capable of change and growth or stagnation. Most people are capable of profound love and profound cruelty. The way people express these qualities is influenced by their gender, and so is your ability to perceive these qualities in others. Why should you trust anyone as a general rule? Take it case by case. Some people are worth trusting, some people are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/19 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Under what conditions would you be in a non monogamous relationship?For me, a monogamous relationship is a very different mindset than what you describe as an open relationship. I'm completely happy to hand my whole heart to a person under a few sets of conditions: we're both on equal footing and have established this mutually and we're each the best possible person for each other at the time. Outside of that, I'm equally happy in a sparsely negotiated loose sort of relationship where I see the person occasionally and we have sex and adore each other but aren't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/19 01:07 AM |
| 9 | Q4Women: Do you ever fret that you are not the best sex your SO ever had?Straps are cop-outs for people who never learned how to use their hands - though that's a controversial opinion in my circles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/19 04:46 PM |
| 19 | Q4Women: Do you ever fret that you are not the best sex your SO ever had?Utterly false, if I can fuck women well without a dick then a man can fuck a woman well with a small one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/19 03:09 PM |
| 42 | Q4Women: Do you ever fret that you are not the best sex your SO ever had?With utmost gravity and sincerity: I know I fuck well, I'm not worried about it. If you're worried you don't fuck well, the all-purpose solution is to fuck better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/19 03:04 PM |
| 3 | Q2women: would you sell your eggs if someone paid you enough?I'd do pretty much anything for a cool million, but I doubt anyone in their right mind would want a few of my eggs that badly. The yield with IVF can be anywhere from 0 to 10/12, with more being pretty abnormal. I have enough random genetic bullshit to handily exclude me even as a tall and educated young woman, and my aversion to invasive medical procedures is pretty high. So I'd probably think it was a ploy for an organ harvesting operation, honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/19 02:38 PM |
| 10 | Looking unapproachable/resting bitch face? Is it only a thing for women?I know very unapproachable men and very unapproachable women. I try very hard to act in a way that could be described as approachable - I want people to feel comfortable asking me for directions or for help with a lab (I'm a lab assistant) or coming to me for personal advice. I work with students at undergrad and pre-college levels, and mostly with young women, and they're very skittish about asking for help if one isn't literally shooting beams of sunshine out of one's eyes. I'm an RA and if a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/19 07:20 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 March 2019)I’m going to be a broke grad student for a while yet to come. In terms of being on equal footing and relating to each other, while it’s not /everything/, education is a lot more important to me than money, though I’m coming from a life stage where most people my age don’t really have money, lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/19 02:40 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 March 2019)Not well - it's not as though they were snapped, the right was much worse than the left, just some ugly fractures that took ages to heal (imagine breaking your fall down the stairs with the heads of both tibias because you have a laptop in your arms). Luckily I didn't shatter my knees. By the time I was willing to go to the ER, it was much worse than it had to be and my right leg is still jacked up. The human body can endure a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/19 03:29 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 March 2019)If you're curious about what pure stubborn agony looks like, I made it to finals and came back the next day to do it again. The ER doc gave me an intensely stern talking-to, I learned absolutely nothing. THIS is toxic femininity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/19 03:17 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 March 2019)Just big dick energy, I like to think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/19 02:44 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 March 2019)Fell down a flight of stairs during the five minute break in semis at nationals, gave my speech mildly in shock and bleeding profusely to the horror of all present. Pictured post mop-up-attempt. My left leg has a wicked scar from where I sliced it open. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/19 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 March 2019)Jealous, by the time I left gymnastics I'd broken both wrists, feet, arms, one ankle, and a long list of fingers and toes. I managed to break both legs on the debate team. My skeleton 100% looks like that of a loose-lipped mob informant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/19 09:49 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 March 2019)People think I'm taller than I am, though I'm already 5'9'', I think it's just that people are used to people around my height claiming to be 6' or like, they personally think they're 5'5'' instead of like 5'3'' and are deeply offended by how much taller than them a 5'9'' person actually is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/19 07:29 PM |
| 3 | How to handle Dating emotionally unavailable women or should I just avoid dating them?Oh no, did you date me at 20? I'm serious, there are a lot of pretty pivotal details in here that - ack. Uh. I try not to think about this, because it's kind of embarrassing, as in hindsight I feel that it really wasn't fair to my boyfriend at the time to be so difficult to access, but it really wasn't his fault at all. The breakup was very hard on him, despite the fact that he was the one breaking up with me. I had a lot going on that I was trying to work through and liked him a lot but... was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/19 07:24 PM |
| 7 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 March 2019)This is what RP men imagine when someone says they're a single 30 y/o+ woman. Also, as silly as it is, I really enjoy the show Crazy Ex Girlfriend - my dad can't stand it because it's mostly 'secondhand embarrassment comedy', but it's genuinely a lot of fun with some great deconstructions of a lot of what gets talked about here. Meanwhile, every Q4Women comment thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/19 06:42 PM |
| 5 | Q4Women: How do you let a guy down that is in love with you without friendzoning him?The rough thing is, if I really care about someone, I'd probably be down to have sex with them if they really wanted to and I wasn't in a relationship at the time. I've been the 'first gay experience' for questioning female friends who I wasn't very attracted to but loved platonically, that sort of thing. But I don't spend a lot of time with men, and those I do I don't consider very close friends. Guys who have been into me that I've not reciprocated interest in have been 100% 'vague acquaintanc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/19 03:31 PM |
| 6 | Off Topic Thread: Reporting and Complaints (16 March 2019)My dad didn't raise a snitch, but you won't hear any complaining from me about how y'all are doing your jobs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 11:25 PM |
| 4 | Should women learn game to keep the man they like interested?Women should try to learn how to articulate what they want and how to approach, in appropriate contexts and with some situational awareness, people they want to get closer with. Lesbians have to do it, bi women have to do it, it's worth doing if you want to maximize your chances of ending up with someone you actually like, regardless of the gender you're interested in. As for 'keeping someone interested', it's kind of dumb to put up a front to 'keep someone hooked' unless you don't mind keeping … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 09:23 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: What do you think inspires women to think they can say this? And why do we never see mainstream media articles like this by men telling women off?I'm just tall, blonde, and annoyingly self-righteous, pal, take your godwin's law stereotypes to Finland where they belong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 09:27 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: What do you think inspires women to think they can say this? And why do we never see mainstream media articles like this by men telling women off?As a degenerate Swede, exactly, you nailed it, that's how historical context on understanding hierarchical and class positioning works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 09:15 AM |
| 6 | Q4W: What do you think inspires women to think they can say this? And why do we never see mainstream media articles like this by men telling women off?You got me there, there is no sociocultural difference in the treatment of men and women informed even slightly by history, and the laws and practices of the present have nothing to do with those a century ago whatsoever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 08:27 AM |
| 6 | Q4W: What do you think inspires women to think they can say this? And why do we never see mainstream media articles like this by men telling women off?To be fair, I think we already kind of know why we 'can't' hate women. People who 'hate' women are broadly acknowledged to look like dicks for not acknowledging the sociocultural context that goes into a person occupying that role. Majority-race men have never been non-citizen humans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 06:28 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: What do you think inspires women to think they can say this? And why do we never see mainstream media articles like this by men telling women off?You're not expected to do anything - I must say, my expectations for you, if I had any at all, are somewhat lowered by this interaction. If you want women to criticise people who are being dicks to men, cool - there are plenty of places you can look to see women doing exactly that, and you don't even have to google it. I'll do it for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 06:03 AM |
| 6 | Q4W: What do you think inspires women to think they can say this? And why do we never see mainstream media articles like this by men telling women off?You asked women to challenge these specific articles. They are the only threshold you've presented other than your own professed credentials. Women challenge cruelty towards the men in their life all the time - you're asking them to do a specific thing, in a specific way, which, in context, shows little potential to yield results. Do you specifically want performative female allyship analogous to performative male allyship? Is that something you're demanding? I hope you'll interrogate that for a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 05:41 AM |
| 7 | Q4W: What do you think inspires women to think they can say this? And why do we never see mainstream media articles like this by men telling women off?The difference is that those articles weren't published in the present day, and if they were, you'd find that social mores have changed about what it's appropriate to say about men in a mildly-reputable publication. The outrage machine has certainly shifted gears, but that doesn't make it any less dysfunctional for anyone, man or woman, to spend their life looking for reasons to be upset. Asking someone else to do something that's harming you is far more folie a deux than social justice. I hope … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 05:30 AM |
| 9 | Q4W: What do you think inspires women to think they can say this? And why do we never see mainstream media articles like this by men telling women off?I don't spend a lot of time with men, but those I like tend to hold themselves to the same standard of self-examination and thoughtful engagement with the world that I try to abide by myself. If you want something from someone, you should ask for it, and then if they - as I'm doing here - say 'here's why I'm not doing that and don't see the value in doing so', it's on you to look at the case you're making and try to understand why it isn't working. Are you getting the results you want to get fro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 05:12 AM |
| 9 | Q4W: What do you think inspires women to think they can say this? And why do we never see mainstream media articles like this by men telling women off?Everybody who wants to be closer to or more involved with someone should be approaching (judiciously and while attending to contextual appropriateness, whatever one's gender may be). These articles are a pretty rude way of conveying that, and do specifically target men, but we'd all be better off if we were willing to ask for what we want. Most women have experienced nonsexual rejection from men for much of their lives, and continue to do so socially and in the workplace and elsewhere even as th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 04:30 AM |
| 11 | Q4W: What do you think inspires women to think they can say this? And why do we never see mainstream media articles like this by men telling women off?I don't know what to tell you about our President and the vast majority of our government (from a US-centric perspective, of course) - we live in Republican-landia. Certain ways of expressing disdain for women are passe precisely because they've been overused so extensively for the past century or so. I don't need to see your twitter to know that you're quite an outlier in terms of the way things people said over half a decade ago get under your skin. That's okay, but expecting other people to p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 04:26 AM |
| 78 | Q4W: What do you think inspires women to think they can say this? And why do we never see mainstream media articles like this by men telling women off?I'll be honest: it seems, based on the dates of these articles, that you may be seeking this kind of content out. These are hardly the New York Times, and even if they were, NYT Opinions publishes some wild stuff about men, women, and everyone in between. Some people are just kind of mean, and gender is certainly one thing to be mean about. Two opinion pieces from 2013 and one from 2016 is hardly an epidemic of institutionalized misandry; these are moderately rude people occupying a space that a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 03:56 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (10 March 2019)They don't have pockets though :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/19 03:30 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (10 March 2019)The best part of having any kind of relationship with another woman is that your wardrobe becomes twice as large, so yes, professor, I am hooking up with my ex and yes, my booty shorts say 'enemy of the state' on the ass, what of it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/19 03:27 PM |
| 9 | Do women prefer masculine or feminine traits in a man?There are more masculine niches/contexts in which a guy can maximize his attractiveness in one way and more feminine niches/contexts in which a guy can maximize his attractiveness in a more feminine way. A guy who would be unsuccessful with the indie music crowd might have great success in the sports fans crowd and vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/19 08:09 PM |
| 6 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (10 March 2019)I tried but they keep kicking me out of the gym. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/19 10:56 AM |
| 1 | Would you want to have been born the opposite sex of what you are nowFeminist troll with excellent abs, thank you very much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/19 07:04 AM |
| 1 | Would you want to have been born the opposite sex of what you are nowTwenty bucks and a milkshake and I'll show you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/19 07:02 AM |
| 0 | Would you want to have been born the opposite sex of what you are nowGuess I just got lucky! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/19 06:58 AM |
| 4 | Would you want to have been born the opposite sex of what you are nowIs this a dick measuring contest? Does having a dick mean you have to work 14 hours a day? Someone's ripping you guys off, unionize men now. That sounds like a personal issue rather than a gender one, frankly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/19 06:52 AM |
| 2 | Would you want to have been born the opposite sex of what you are nowWelcome to the shelf life of female object attractiveness as well. I'll take my chances, again, for a crisp twenty and a milkshake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/19 06:47 AM |
| 1 | Would you want to have been born the opposite sex of what you are nowIf I didn't have male relatives and a reasonable sense of my own face, height, and frame, it would be a real crapshoot, you're very right! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/19 06:44 AM |
| 4 | Would you want to have been born the opposite sex of what you are nowBeing an attractive man confers pretty much all the advantages of being an attractive women, with the bonus that more women would want to sleep with me and more men would be chill in the workplace. I'd switch for $20 and a wendy's frosty if the offer was on the table for some reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/19 04:44 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (10 March 2019)Poem for the Monday, 'In the gloaming, in the roiling night' by Ruth Awad: The hurt returns as it always intended—it is tender as the inside of my thighs, it is as blue, too. O windless, wingless sky, show me your empire of loneliness, let me spring from the jaws of what tried to kill me. Let me look at your face and see a heaven worth having, all your sorry angels falling off a piano bench, laughing. Do you burn because you remember darkness? Outside the joy is clamoring. It is almost like the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 01:17 PM |
| 12 | [Q4W] You're walking down the street with your man, a wild stranger appears.I've never experienced cat-calling while I was with a man. Hopefully he has a whole male feminist routine ready for the aftermath because I get very upset about cat-calls and the real issue would be not saying anything comforting afterwards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 09:02 AM |
| 7 | [Discussion] Is it possible to have a relationship without games or power dynamics?As one of my favorite poets, Hera Lindsay Bird, writes, highlighting the paradox at work in the way we conceive love as hierarchical: I think it’s okay to admit the people you love are better than you I wouldn’t date anyone who wasn’t imagine dating someone worse than yourself on purpose that’s the kind of fucked up thing only everyone I’ve ever loved would do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 04:58 AM |
| 5 | [Discussion] Is it possible to have a relationship without games or power dynamics?There are men who want what you want and women who want what you want - keep an eye out for them. Finding someone who you can love without wanting to control them and who can love you without wanting to control you is... like, it's kind of amazing. It's not going to be everyone, and you'll be lonely for a good while if this is where you set your bar, but it's possible. Some people are married to hierarchies and prescriptive roles, and I'm not going to be a second wife to that, so those relations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/19 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Thread: What does PPD look like ? (Free attractiveness boost edition) March 09 2019I appreciate the compliment, though I'm wearing more makeup than she is today, making it hardly an ideal 1:1 comparison, My girl Julia is the only other dark-eyed-light-haired-creepycute-faced-5'9''-swede I've found on the market, and I'm sticking with her for now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Thread: What does PPD look like ? (Free attractiveness boost edition) March 09 2019Please, by all means - my inbox is always open. I'm part of a collab on campus that sits around once a week and edits each others' random passion projects and there's no tangent I love to go off on more than a biology tangent, except perhaps a chemistry one... Literally I would love the chance to take a look at anything you'd want to share, as well! Sounds fascinating. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Thread: What does PPD look like ? (Free attractiveness boost edition) March 09 2019Oh man, when I'm getting feedback on my novel and someone's trying to pad with nice stuff before they say 'literally stop explaining how canning and other forms of food preservation figure into this imaginary economy, no one cares and you're not victor hugo you idiot' they always hit the 'your sense of place is so vivid! such imagery!' There are only two genders: spatial and abstract exposition, and you have to pick ONE. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 07:26 PM |
| 2 | Off-Topic Thread: What does PPD look like ? (Free attractiveness boost edition) March 09 2019I understand, it's difficult to word without mutual knowledge of how we see the world. I'm super visual, I recall faces very well, it's useful for remembering names because I can sort of refer back to my 'reference' for a person's face and it will be tied to a name. There is definitely a visual component to this recognition process, but more in the way that you might have flashes of recognition when you return to your childhood home or see a familiar tree or something. You literally see it as it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Thread: What does PPD look like ? (Free attractiveness boost edition) March 09 2019The same way you 'see' a face you recognize when you're not specifically looking for it - I don't know if this is your experience, but the best analogue in my frame of reference is catching sight of a friend in a crowd, when you're not really looking at them, but your brain is registering and 'seeing' the features. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Off-Topic Thread: What does PPD look like ? (Free attractiveness boost edition) March 09 2019Yes, as you're describing. I associate names with faces 1:1, and when I don't 'know' a face, I come up with one based on contextual assumptions and amend it as necessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Thread: What does PPD look like ? (Free attractiveness boost edition) March 09 2019you paint a vivid word picture of yourself and your exploits! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Thread: What does PPD look like ? (Free attractiveness boost edition) March 09 2019I'm not sure how old I strictly conceptualize you, but definitely as connie nielson at some age | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Thread: What does PPD look like ? (Free attractiveness boost edition) March 09 2019I think some kinds of faces may just be harder to match. I get just about every blonde celebrity in the book, as you mentioned in your comment. perhaps our doppelgangers are.... each other? or one of these many asian women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 03:33 PM |
| 2 | Off-Topic Thread: What does PPD look like ? (Free attractiveness boost edition) March 09 2019You'll always be constance zimmer to me 💓 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Thread: What does PPD look like ? (Free attractiveness boost edition) March 09 2019My mental image has always been sebastian armesto but ben whishaw definitely isn't a shock | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 03:27 PM |
| 2 | Off-Topic Thread: What does PPD look like ? (Free attractiveness boost edition) March 09 2019I like to believe that if grad school falls through I could put on a red wig and make a living as a body double for Julia Hafstrom. Most of you all have probably seen pictures of me already. Edit: both of the sites seem to think I'm Asian, so that's an exciting plot twist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 03:15 PM |
| 17 | If a man made you wait for sex how would it make you feel/react?I'd be flattered. It speaks highly to his character and maturity that he knows his own boundaries and preferences and is willing to stick to them, and I have hands, I'll be fine. Presumably he's not withholding affection, just not ready for sex? And I like him in general? My first giving and receiving love language is physical affection, as long as I'm getting forehead kisses and held and shit I can handle myself until he's into it. To be fair, I'm very confident that I'm a desirable person to h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 11:18 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (03 March 2019)I'm 95% sure that's a picture of my grandma what the hell | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 01:08 AM |
| 3 | (Q4A) How would you feel dating someone very attractive, who thinks they are unattractive?I would feel really uncomfortable dating someone who very overtly didn't like themselves, at least at the beginning of the relationship. It's one thing to go on a few dates with a girl you think is really hot and find out she's wildly self-critical and actively/vocally dislikes her appearance - that's a huge turnoff - and another if a partner opens up a few months in about feeling, say, insecure because of growing up conventionally unattractive. And I think it's less a concern of their being sco… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/19 12:34 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (03 March 2019)Neither, you have to talk to the scorpion about that shit, but watch out! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (03 March 2019)Moved to DC for his dream job after the holidays. Am I over it? No, but that's what rebounds with your ex are for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 10:08 PM |
| 3 | The "Fisherman" analogy: ExplainedThe analogy falls short as an instructive tool because it discourages talking to women, which is insane if you want to attract women. Must you believe everything anyone says to you? Of course not, but women provide insight on women that you won't get if you don't talk to women. Using this analogy on some dude who's just starting out in the dating pool is setting him up for failure and confusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 02:00 AM |
| 5 | Do girls really wanna meet a guy at the gym?Depends a lot on the kind of gym. There are some very social/young gyms, especially in college areas, that go as far as to host events and provide amenities geared towards meeting people outside of working out. Taking certain kinds of classes and engaging in activities with a collaborative element, like rock climbing, can be a great way to meet friends who you may go on to date. It's not a great place to pick people up for a hookup, necessarily... unless it is, you know your gym better than I do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 01:49 AM |
| 3 | The "Fisherman" analogy: Explained“If you're going to ask for advice, the best people to get advice from are other fishermen (people of the same sex who are successful at attracting the opposite sex), not the fish (the opposite sex). I'd say the only exceptions to this are lesbian women (if you're a man), or gay men (if you're a woman), and I say that lightly. They may not be as good, but they're still better in most cases than asking the fish themselves.” That’s not remotely expressing “talk to other humans”. That’s directly di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 01:32 AM |
| 3 | The "Fisherman" analogy: ExplainedHe’s dead because he was like 70 and that’s kind of what happens. I’m not here to preach to Mystery and his fuzzy hat, I’m saying that these kinds of analogies contribute to a dysfunctional culture that make people unhappy and make relationships not work. Used car dealerships and fishing boats aren’t relationships, and they make shitty heuristics for relationship. They don’t even make universal heuristics for car dealing and fishing, because there are different ways to do everything, and the bes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/19 01:26 AM |
| 1 | The "Fisherman" analogy: Explained"Don't ask for fishing advice from a fish" ... The best way to learn about other humans is to talk to other humans. ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/19 10:37 PM |
| 3 | The "Fisherman" analogy: ExplainedPeople... do like laugh tracks, though. A certain subset of people, not people in general. Reducing a massive group of people like 'women' or 'television viewers' to a set of assumptions is a losing proposition, because if one looks at the majority of television viewers, certainly most dislike laugh tracks enough to change the channel, but a negligible percentage either find them unobtrusively charming or actively appealing enough to avidly consume a show. That's what focus groups are for - to f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/19 10:34 PM |
| 1 | The "Fisherman" analogy: ExplainedIn this context, specifically as a quarry - I could have been clearer on this, but the 'one party is a person, other party is an object-non-human that the person wants to consume' truly isn't doing anyone any favors. The thing is, used car dealers absolutely should consider what customers like. Focus groups don't exist so ad agencies can dunk on idiot customers who don't know what they truly want, they're an information-gathering method with high stakes and usable results that, when ignored, can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/19 10:05 PM |
| 1 | The "Fisherman" analogy: ExplainedIf you're thinking of women as non-human animals for the purposes of entering any kind of relationship with one you're kind of spoiling for a shitty experience. The best way to learn about other humans is to talk to other humans. I don't believe everything that other human says at face value, but more talking to people = more insight into people on a pretty 1:1 basis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/19 09:07 PM |
| 3 | How should a guy go about obtaining casual sex/short term/ONS relationships?I thought you blocked me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/19 08:47 PM |
| 3 | How should a guy go about obtaining casual sex/short term/ONS relationships?Find some kind of happiness and security outside of hooking up. Make some decent friends, find work or a pastime other than sex that'll be fulfilling. Commit to liking yourself and commit to doing what you can to make yourself look and behave in ways that make you happy. Consider, as well, realistically, if you've done your utmost to project an appearance that will attract the kind of people you want to attract. Figure out where in your area, community, or social circle people go when they want … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/19 07:55 PM |
| 4 | Beauty Habits That Aren't Makeup?About 80% of my barre class is there for the 3x a week meetings because they want to look better, per the survey the grad student teaching the class sent around. If it were offered outside of my school, it would be $15-20 per class. It's also, like, 3 hours of a person's life per week, and I wouldn't do it if it didn't improve my enjoyment of other activities. A 'good' (socially acceptable, conventionally attractive) body costs money, especially for busy women whose time is valuable. I cut my ow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/19 05:21 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (03 March 2019)Lived together for a very fun summer while we were working in the same lab, decided to stay friends during the regular academic semester, remain very good friends to this day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/19 04:25 PM |
| 5 | What should one feel as the rebound?It sounds like you'd have every right to feel a strong impulse to get the heck out of this whatever-this-is. Why be a part of something that's making you miserable? Better to be alone with something to hope for than in a relationship with someone who's siphoning away your hope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/19 08:59 AM |
| 5 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (03 March 2019)I think I need one of the RP dudes to come with me the next time she invites me to her room for drinks and be like 'JUST GO FOR IT YOU BETA PIECE OF SHIT' or smth, honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/19 08:00 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (03 March 2019)Two months single, lads, and I'm seriously considering hooking up with a friendly ex who's been showing up for my barre class lately because I'm [jean ralphio saperstein voice] lonely. + why lie, we've both gotten hotter in the last 2.5 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/19 02:49 AM |
| 5 | How Women Experience Sex: What Do You Wish Men (As A Whole) Knew?Level with your partner, start with a lot of oral, fuck for fifteen minutes? My strategy for addressing the issue of 'getting tired during sex' when I started having sex with women was 'hit the gym more often'. I can't recommend barre and pilates enough. Work on your body control, maybe do some kind of thing as a couple? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/19 10:21 PM |
| 21 | How Women Experience Sex: What Do You Wish Men (As A Whole) Knew?I truly don't get the - that's a lie, I completely understand where it comes from, it's a porn thing. I really don't appreciate the emphasis on as many positions as possible. It's usually done in such an unnatural way. Like there's a checklist going on for what positions to do rather than organically shifting positions based on what's feeling good. Also, men are often really bad at articulating when they like something. I personally really enjoy giving oral as a general 'thing', but women are mu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/19 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (03 March 2019)Definitely handsome, less the type of man I'm personally into. My preferences lean more androgynous for both men and women. I'd fuck anyone I dated for a while and liked, though, ofc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/19 06:20 AM |
| 0 | If you man is overly affectionate towards you does it become a turn off?Does her behavior suggest she's into it now that you're acting on her suggestion to be more affectionate? You know her better than anyone on this sub does. One of the more stupid things I've had to ask for in relationships is for more compliments and praise. I don't know if it's a me-dating-men problem or a men problem, but it is a running theme - I'm a very affectionate person, I try to give active positive feedback whenever I can, I realize that men especially don't get a lot of that from thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/19 12:13 AM |
| 1 | Gender doesn't have any bearing on the fundamental qualities people are looking for in a long term partner.Please enjoy my essay, lol. I think the utility here is in identifying a common thread of (not to overhype it) humanity. Sort of a neutral way of understanding why we might want what we want, at the most essential level possible. Understanding that we ultimately all want the best for ourselves (now THERE's a bioessentialist message I can agree with!), whether or not we can realistically assess what that is, whether or not our assessments have been hindered or informed by our upbringing or identi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/19 05:07 AM |
| 1 | Gender doesn't have any bearing on the fundamental qualities people are looking for in a long term partner.Would people be happier if they actually valued those things rather than cultural appearances of such? Absolutely they would. Here is where I think the crux of our misunderstanding can be identified (perhaps): I really do think people are predisposed to value these things, because the qualities I've listed have objective value/are honest signals of 'value', but they do so through the lens they are offered through culture/socialization. And then amateur theorists show up and try to explain male a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/19 01:53 AM |
| 2 | Gender doesn't have any bearing on the fundamental qualities people are looking for in a long term partner.That's the dream! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/19 01:16 AM |
| 2 | Gender doesn't have any bearing on the fundamental qualities people are looking for in a long term partner.INFJ. I was just thinking, there's been vague-ing in the last few weeks about few BP-adjacent effort posts, and I was like, 'I should be the change I wish to see in the world'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/19 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Gender doesn't have any bearing on the fundamental qualities people are looking for in a long term partner.'A kind yielding companion' has her own skills and capabilities - she's the best at acting out that role, offering emotional support, dedicates herself to knowing her partner's preference and deliberately altering her behavior to meet their needs and desires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/19 01:08 AM |
| 0 | Gender doesn't have any bearing on the fundamental qualities people are looking for in a long term partner.'Low maintenance' - mission-driven, intentional about their impact on the world. 'Hot' - pursuing mastery (likely to remain hot, too). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/19 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Gender doesn't have any bearing on the fundamental qualities people are looking for in a long term partner.Can you toss me some examples? I brought up a few here (a traditional woman is one who is effectively 'pursuing mastery' at a set of very conventional standards with accompanying demonstration of compatible values, etc) but I truly don't spend a lot of time talking to men about what they want. Or talking to men at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/19 10:23 PM |
| 2 | Gender doesn't have any bearing on the fundamental qualities people are looking for in a long term partner.I would, and do, argue here that male preferences can also be explained by these fundamental qualities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/19 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Gender doesn't have any bearing on the fundamental qualities people are looking for in a long term partner.Are you trying to change my view on the inherency of some nuanced meaning of the word 'more'? I'm open to it! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/19 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Gender doesn't have any bearing on the fundamental qualities people are looking for in a long term partner.Why? All of them? To what extent? What happens in sociocultural contexts in which different assumptions are made of gendered identity? How are all those pro dommes staying in business? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/19 09:57 PM |
| 2 | Gender doesn't have any bearing on the fundamental qualities people are looking for in a long term partner.I'm less trying to specifically go after hypergamy here than I am trying to generally account for my views on common human motivations that are interpreted, rorschach-style, into different overly-specific assumptions of motivation based on the social conditioning that affects our views of each other. I think it's a mistake to treat humans as purely biological creatures when the states that we value in each other (love, commitment, respect, trust) are not biological states with biochemical/biolog… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/19 09:55 PM |
| 0 | Being a slut is advantageous to women in 2019What concession? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/19 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Being a slut is advantageous to women in 2019So the second one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/19 05:39 AM |
| 3 | Being a slut is advantageous to women in 2019I can't post 'a reply to an insane CMV' in another sub - out of context, this comment wouldn't make much sense. If you go through it line by line, I've said nothing a BPer wouldn't likely agree with, and certainly nothing that would provoke outrage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/19 03:16 AM |
| 3 | Being a slut is advantageous to women in 2019I'm not, just a woman. People do assume. But I also don't think any of this post is contested by BP beliefs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/19 03:10 AM |
| 2 | Being a slut is advantageous to women in 2019Oh, here's a better picture, identifying the multiple tissue layers and muscle differentiation. The esophagus, for the love of goodness, is not a muscle. It is a tube of tissue surrounded by musculature. Are you, like, a really bad and inexplicably confident biologist or do you just get off on starting arguments about vertebrate physiology on the internet for no reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 10:01 PM |
| 4 | Being a slut is advantageous to women in 2019I was born in 1997, I don't know what generation you're talking about but I'm as much an authority on early-twenties sexual culture as you are, which is to say not one. So with that being said: - Risk of violence is not as niche as you think, your friends just don't trust you. I don't spend a lot of time with men, but it's my prevailing impression that the perception of sleeping around is accompanied by the stigma of loose morals and generally negative assumptions about the person. - It's easy t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Being a slut is advantageous to women in 2019It's not "a muscle" as I said - it's a membranous tract, and while pelvic muscles play a role in sex (more of a role if you perform specific exercises to refine muscle function for sexual purposes) the vagina absolutely cannot be accurately described as "a muscle" any more than your esophagus could be accurately described as such. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 08:52 PM |
| 10 | Being a slut is advantageous to women in 2019Over a period of five years, if you're in twenty ONS vs. one LTR, your odds of encountering "the minority" are twenty times higher, particularly if one considers the amount of time that goes into establishing a relationship/vetting as opposed to the random hookup strategy you describe. Let me know how conditioning those biceps by rubbing a lubed up butternut squash on em works out for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 12:27 PM |
| 24 | Being a slut is advantageous to women in 2019The more guys you sleep with, the more men you meet (duh) Kind of putting the cart before the horse, here. It's really hard to have sex with people you haven't met, in my experience. RIP my many burgeoning romances through PPD. Dating is all about compatibility and what better way to find a compatible mate than to go in deep from the get go Sex poses physical and social risks to women in a way that it doesn't to men. The more intimate partners a woman has, the more likely she is to be exposed to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 10:30 AM |
| 6 | Women don't care about pretty boys anymore, they are more in to masculine men.The appeal of a "pretty boy" type is presumably youthful virility. "Sexy son hypothesis" refers to the (theoretical) tendency of females to select more highly ornamented males due to the presumed greater fitness necessary for a male to survive to reproductive maturity with more visible ornamentation as well as the reproductive benefits if such ornamentation and capacity to survive even with the challenge of more visible ornamentation is passed on to their sons. By this logic, it makes total sens… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 07:48 AM |
| 22 | Women don't care about pretty boys anymore, they are more in to masculine men.Attractive men are attractive. A handful of women's perspectives on Game of Thrones isn't decisive as to the question of masculine-feminine attractiveness, and the massive female fandom for Klaus from The Umbrella Academy doesn't make the reverse of this post true. Personally, it's my view, as someone with a lot of female friends, many of whom are heterosexual, that feminine-masculine attractiveness norms are not changing as much as you think they are. I present a counter-explanation to your obs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 07:27 AM |
| 3 | If a woman writes “I’m tired of fuck boys” or “I want to date men, not boys” on the dating profile it shows their Relationship value.I was thinking specifically of what I've seen: "no fuck boys" "no hookups" "only interested in real men" etc - I think OP slanted the general wording of these comments towards a more self-indicting wording, when really women who use these memetic turns of phrase are effectively trying to say "I'm Not That Kind Of Girl, Keep Moving". How successful is it? YMMV, especially now that it's assumed meme status. But a lot of what you're describing are contextless leaps, and if you're ruling yourself ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/19 10:42 PM |
| 8 | If a woman writes “I’m tired of fuck boys” or “I want to date men, not boys” on the dating profile it shows their Relationship value.I think there are some crossed wires here. It's my impression that when women began to write this on their profiles, they often did so under the belief that it would increase their perceived value to the hypothetical man they hoped to attract, on two levels. 1) I am attractive enough that men are pursuing me - in fact, so many men that I am explicitly adding this line to my profile to proactively turn them down. (Analogous RP concept: dread) 2) I have standards, which should make it more meaning… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/19 09:32 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 February 2019)I used to write a humor column for my school's newspaper and it started at roughly the same time. It's only intensified in the last ~2 weeks, but I'm 90% certain that's ground zero. People can be crazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/19 09:22 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 February 2019)Ugh, gross, I hate that you can't do much about that - in my case he's a young guy so I did some digging and contacted his parents last night. Hopeful that helps, if not it's to the police station I go. Still haven't told mine, probably should get around to doing it but it's such a weird thing to tell someone about and I really don't want them to worry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/19 06:34 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 February 2019)So real, and honestly so bizarre! I really don't want to fuck this guy's life up, because he clearly needs some kind of help he's not getting, but jfc. Hope yours is safely in the past and very far away now, mine just happened to move to my city very recently and it's been escalating since then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/19 06:24 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 February 2019)Packages, notes, recently broke in and rifled through a bunch of things. Started on social media and escalated from there after being politely declined and blocked on all platforms. I'm really hoping not to get law enforcement involved, but frankly we're getting to that point. Gotta say, after the past two weeks, I understand Gun People a little more. I'll still never touch one, but I get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/19 05:48 PM |
| 4 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 February 2019)Got an abstract into a conference, I think it's pretty strong and I'm stoked to present, been really good about working out lately and I'm looking forward to having scary biceps like the lady who teaches my barre class, I'm up for an award on campus, and I have the best friends in the world! Less excitingly, being fully stalked and learning the hard way that it doesn't matter if my building is key card protected, I really need to lock my door. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/19 04:04 AM |
| 15 | Discussion: the stages of decline of women's sexual attraction to their partner in the context of a relationship.Thank god you're here, can you help me jumpstart my vagina? I have cables in my trunk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/19 08:15 PM |
| 17 | Discussion: the stages of decline of women's sexual attraction to their partner in the context of a relationship.Hi my name is Womanette Fem'ale Ladyine Hypergamy Bitch and I love branch swinging (that's how I got my name) with lots of Chads while describing, extensively, my physiological reaction to their dicks, and I look exactly like Anita Sarkeesian (AN: if u don't know who she is get da hell out of here!). I'm not related to every bitch that every man has ever both hated and been obsessed with, but it sure seems like I might be based on the amount of projecting going on. I'm a vindictive hellbitch but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/19 08:08 PM |
| 38 | Discussion: the stages of decline of women's sexual attraction to their partner in the context of a relationship."direct stimulation of your vagina" ah yes, a fellow woman, using woman-words to describe the way a woman-body works. Checks out. Seriously, this is a very silly way of describing something that may have, in theory, happened to someone at some point, but this attempted timecourse is literally useless when applied broadly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/19 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you say "Men don't owe women shit, either" to this?Is there such a surplus of wonderful women that you’ve gotten lazy with your dating habits? I'm sincerely curious in what way you consider this or any other line of the other article to be shaming. They're banter-y questions based on a legitimate experience with numbers to back it up. Bolding the word 'obligation' implies that I'm struggling with reading comprehension, but I understand that's not your intention and so I'm not making a post about it. This is not a malicious piece, it's an op-ed a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/19 08:51 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you say "Men don't owe women shit, either" to this?What about the article seemed to shame you? This isn't shaming anyone anymore than my complaining about cats being loud in the morning or salmon being expensive is 'shaming' cats or fishermen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/19 08:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you say "Men don't owe women shit, either" to this?Deliberate cruelty isn't defensible; I don't see this article as being deliberately cruel, the same way an op-ed about, like, someone's friends being flaky about meeting up or indecisive about what to eat is not intended as deliberate cruelty. The jokes here are made at the expense of an abstract idea of men, part of the humor being the incongruence between much of what has been written by/about these Abstract Men online (it's hard to meet women, it's a women's market, etc) and the actual experi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/19 05:47 AM |
| 8 | Q4W: Would you say "Men don't owe women shit, either" to this?This is a personal attack directed at me @mods help | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/19 05:08 AM |
| 3 | How often do women get approached, and how often do men approach?I mean, at most. There are plenty of nights when people just leave me alone. I'd estimate that if I were to pick a random bar and sit alone for two hours, 2-3 men would try to talk to me, based on prior experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/19 05:05 AM |
| 6 | How often do women get approached, and how often do men approach?Depends, a lot. I got 'approached' a lot more when I was 13-16. Since then, while I've gotten more conventionally attractive, I've also started actively avoiding men and doing what I can to deter unfamiliar male attention with my demeanor. I'm quite tall and moderately intimidating before I start talking. I have friends who almost never get approached, like, ever, who, after going out with me, express surprise at how much men interact with me unprovoked. I also have friends who get approached qu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/19 01:09 AM |
| 1 | what is your personality type and would you prefer you were a different one?A good few people on PPD would argue 'yes'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/19 02:58 AM |
| 1 | what is your personality type and would you prefer you were a different one?I'm an INFJ. Self-righteous optimism has been pretty tolerable so far, for me if not for anyone who has to interact with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/19 02:53 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: if you were in highschool, would you rather date a drug dealer or school president?Our combination-school president-valedictorian got nailed selling Xanax two weeks before graduation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/19 03:06 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (10 February 2019)Little do you all know, I was my eighth grade class' poet laureate, which is now one of the top ten most bizarre facts about me as a Serious Science Person. Totally recommend it, though, it's super fun to just hammer something out and make it Exist! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/19 04:19 PM |
| 5 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (10 February 2019)MODS TOOK DOWN THE POST SO HERE'S MY REPLY TO THAT POEM. Please feel free to imagine me dressed like a mid-90s rapper delivering this at an open mic to a scornful audience. Born in 1997, real digital native 'Can't even' with the challenges you claim to complain of It's been the same story, the dating apps changed shit The same way carrier pigeons and and the USPS did People just are and progress isn't linear, no one's always the winner You can wine and dine and dinner but whatever you consider T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/19 03:58 AM |
| 4 | No strings attached: the nature of casual sex in college students.Not having sex with or seeking out a relationship with someone promiscuous is entirely morally defensible. Using your platform, small and insignificant though it may be, on reddit or elsewhere, to bully people or to actively and deliberately join in a culture of purposeful harm is not morally defensible or intellectually honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/19 05:32 PM |
| 5 | No strings attached: the nature of casual sex in college students.I see the question coming up here and elsewhere: at what point does a 'preference' become bullying? 'Slut-shaming' is, in essence, bullying. Attempting to intimidate or harm a group of people based on their perceived vulnerability. We can generally agree that once an action reaches the point of deliberately inflicting harm, that is not a morally defensible action. Women who engage in casual sex fear bullying, are bullied, have been and have observed others being bullied in the past. Not having s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/19 05:17 PM |
| 3 | Do you believe having a high N-count effects men and women differently?You have to fuck at least one guy for every girl or else you legally have to transition once your n-count exceeds 10. Only bisexuals are safe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/19 06:20 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you think that manflu is a real thing?There is an important material distinction between the experience of one's partner tell you off for being whiny about illness and the experience of having a partner who comes through when it matters but has to vent some frustration on the internet. When one is already in a relationship, bound by law, one state is vastly 'better' than the other. 'Venting' does not a terrible-bitch-of-a-wife make, particularly if the 'outlet' facilitates desirable and 'kind' treatment, nor does it inherently resul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/19 03:20 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (10 February 2019)Based on the content of the texts, wide variety of voicemails, the song he wrote, one email, and an Instagram DM once I blocked him everywhere else, I've already messed him up quite enough, somehow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 10:00 PM |
| 4 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (10 February 2019)The sad thing is that he broke up with me because, as he put it, he was tired of turning down other offers. He was getting into modeling about two months into our relationship and decided this was too much of a lifestyle level up to stay in a relationship. A year later he seems to be done with whatever carousel may or may not have been involved, and I wish him well, but I'm not interested in someone who explicitly has decided at any point that they're not into me. Huuuuge turnoff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 09:58 PM |
| 4 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (10 February 2019)Been experiencing a really bizarre case of Gender Dynamics for the last couple of weeks, most of which I've been on break from PPD - one of my exes, who broke up with me in the first place, has embarked on a frankly absurd mission to get back together. I think he's just finally hit the wall and realized he can't trade up from this model anymore. Hypergamy is so sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 08:20 PM |
| 3 | Are there any examples of the context of 'male creepiness' that isn't just regular anti-male bigotry?How are you harmed by a series of liquid crystals rotating polarized light? How can anything be 'bigotry' when nothing occurs in a sociocultural context or has any relationship with truth or consequences beyond physical principles? Nothing matters, eat dirt and kill god and stop whining about something 'real' when literally nothing is by your standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 07:48 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (03 February 2019)Hey, that sucks. Hang in there, surgery is awful but you'll come out the other end alright. Good luck, hope your recovery is quick, easy, and boring in every way. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 03:52 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (03 February 2019)Yo, we've gotten the exact same treatment in the last few weeks, then. If it looked like coffee it might have been injectafer, that's the good shit. Hope they resolve the cause of the bleeding soon and you don't have some kind of diagnosis on the way! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 02:48 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you think that manflu is a real thing?Being kind is materially important and meaningful. You don't have to believe that for it to be true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Would you ever marry or ltr a woman who has had a MMF threesome?I only have FFF threesomes, I'm not the Q's target demo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/19 03:42 PM |
| 22 | Would you ever marry or ltr a woman who has had a MMF threesome?Would you, could you in the rain? LTR her on a train? In a car? In a tree? Look past your insecurity? In a house? In a box? With a mouse? With a fox? LTR her here or there - you're an asshole if you care! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/19 02:39 PM |
| 7 | Q4W: Do you think that manflu is a real thing?With utmost respect, that article and your reading of it represent some of the most irresponsible data interpretation I have ever seen. "Women are more often going to be the main carer whether for a child or an elderly relative. Many workplaces are quite inflexible about emergency leave, so the only way to get that time off is sick leave." This is two paragraphs down from what you chose to cite. The '42% more likely' figure is a similarly ridiculous way to represent data. Women lose roughly 2.6%… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/19 01:46 PM |
| 14 | Q4W: Do you think that manflu is a real thing?I know nuance can be a complicated thing, but part of the 'toxic masculinity' issue is that men struggle to develop social support networks/access care from medical professionals, and expect their wives to fill that exclusive role when they end up miserable as a result. This is why 'Facebook moms' are the ones making manflu memes and I personally don't give a shit. They're the ones acting as sole caregivers for 50 year old men who haven't seen a doctor in three years and likely haven't shown any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/19 01:38 PM |
| 26 | Q4W: Do you think that manflu is a real thing?The joke is that men make a very big deal of it when they are sick compared to women. Most women feel poorly for several days every month and are obligated to go to work anyway. A man making a 'big deal' (what exactly a big deal is must be situation) or otherwise expecting catering/support in a way that a woman feels has been denied to her is a recipe for tension. A better outlet for this tension than 'being mean to your husband' is probably 'make a joke about manflu on facebook'. Ideally we wou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/19 02:34 AM |
| 2 | What are your Valentine’s Day plansHaha, I wish I hadn't been messing with you, it's super illegal in Maine and this time of year I'd likely die/starve but it's the ideal way to go. I've never gone diving this far north and I'm not sure I'd know what to do with a lobster if I got one. But if you want to talk castnetting and wade fishing in the Gulf of Mexico, that's my jam and one of my many potential retirement plans for once I'm ugly, old, and penniless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 10:03 PM |
| 1 | What are your Valentine’s Day plansI plan to only eat what I can catch. Nothing gets ya in the Valentine's Day spirit like diving headfirst into the icy sea and testing your mettle against nature herself! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 09:51 PM |
| 4 | What are your Valentine’s Day plansWow, you mozzarella love her. Have a good one, you crazy kids! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 09:48 PM |
| 2 | What are your Valentine’s Day plansI scheduled a weekend off, bought cheap bus tickets to the coast of Maine, and cashed in an Airbnb gift card - a bitch is going to hike some trails, see some lighthouses, and get some sea air! My last six Valentine's Days have all revolved around a specific work opportunity that pops up this time every year, but I've already paid my last semester's tuition and now my only plan is to get the hell out of town before everyone and their brother shows up for the event. For the actual day, one of my f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 09:34 PM |
| 3 | In what ways do you go out of your way to minimize being hit on, or recieving male attention in general?Hell yeah, I wouldn't want to go anywhere else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 09:06 PM |
| 13 | In what ways do you go out of your way to minimize being hit on, or recieving male attention in general?I prefer the company of women, since I generally find them kinder, more intellectually curious, and more interesting. While there are many perfectly lovely men, for the moment, since it is an option for me, I choose not to gamble on them unless I have to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 09:04 PM |
| 15 | In what ways do you go out of your way to minimize being hit on, or recieving male attention in general?I met men and was generally disappointed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 08:43 PM |
| 9 | In what ways do you go out of your way to minimize being hit on, or recieving male attention in general?I'm an introvert, I'm very serious about my studies and my work, I value friendship with other women, and I find male attention extremely draining. It's all bundled up a bit. I have dated men and loved them dearly, but at the moment there are none I talk to regularly outside of my dad, my brother, and one of my bosses (lol) and I'm enjoying it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 08:42 PM |
| 17 | In what ways do you go out of your way to minimize being hit on, or recieving male attention in general?I go to a women's college and don't leave campus often outside of work. I prefer not to be around unfamiliar men. This is the only strategy I've come up with that reliably works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 07:35 PM |
| 1 | How much money would I have to pay you to switch your gender?I'm cis, per OP the situation is 'magic handwave you're a [something else] now'. I'd take the magic handwave to cis male because I think being a man would be very easy given the equipment I have to work with. Being a woman isn't especially awful either. In general I don't really care, which is why twenty bucks would be enough to sway me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 05:26 AM |
| 5 | How much money would I have to pay you to switch your gender?I'm a woman and I'd do it for a crisp 20. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 01:56 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Womens main disadvantages besides physical strength emotional stability and mental differences are all from being coddled so much and having it so easy that nobody takes them seriouslyWomen's main disadvantage is 4x vulnerability to electric-type attacks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/19 04:42 PM |
| 2 | Why are there no heated debates between the women of PPD?I'm pretty sure some of the RP women here think I'm an idiot and not worth engaging with - I can only think of one regular-poster-definitely-a-woman with whom I've had a 'this thread continued on next page' argument. Though, to be fair, I'm not a big 'reply to someone else's comment' person. The people who respond 'you fucking idiot, prove your shitty claim that all women aren't moronic lying sadists' to things I say are usually men. If I wanted to fight with more women/people in general, I coul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/19 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Ladies! Think of the last few men you dated/ slept with outside of dating aps. Has being 'cold approached' at a non-social setting ever resulted in you going on a date?Yes. Right there in boston common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/19 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (03 February 2019)I always forget how insane the beginning of the semester is. I'm swamped at work, classes have somehow already started hitting, and I swear to god everyone is scheduling everything on the same day. Two bright spots: very convenient open climbing gym hours, and I'm two weeks into a barre class and really liking it. Working on gaining back the muscle mass I've lost to illness over the last two months now that my hemoglobin and hematocrit have normalized. 💪 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/19 11:08 PM |
| 3 | Ladies! Think of the last few men you dated/ slept with outside of dating aps. Has being 'cold approached' at a non-social setting ever resulted in you going on a date?I've only been 'cold-approached' a few times, and each time it has been somewhere between 'unpleasant' and 'got spit on' so I'm not a fan. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/19 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (20 January 2019)I'm from the Floribama Shore, it hits too close to home - but I love The Bachelor. Pageant drama/the age of the contestants makes this season especially hilarious because I have mutual friends with Hannah B. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 05:24 PM |
| 9 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (20 January 2019)Took the GRE, had no idea that they gave you the scores back immediately when you do the computerized version... I'm going to grad school folks! Didn't bomb quant! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/19 11:58 PM |
| 11 | Why do women have a tendency to "learn" that they don't like Chads and "fuckboys" at around the same age?The average motivation for a 'woman who attends a meditation group' differs by age. Women in tumultuous relationship situations almost certainly self-select for meditation groups; so do women who just kind of want someone to talk to or who are seeking out general self-understanding. But there are going to be more 'young women in tumultuous relationships' than there are 'old women in tumultuous relationships'. I don't disagree that 'dating iffy people' is something that everyone has to unlearn. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/19 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What are your political beliefs and how do they fit or conflict with your pill?Why would TRP be an obstacle and not a tool to achieve understanding? If I believe, with utter certainty, that all men are carpenters or desperately want to be carpenters, and I join a community of women who share this certainty about men, even if we have a valid material reason in our lives or experiences for believing this to be the case, insisting upon this prescriptivist view of men and the world to the exclusion of all evidence to the contrary is an obstacle to truth-seeking. don't you need… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/19 03:28 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: What are your political beliefs and how do they fit or conflict with your pill?Humanism resists the idea that broad swaths of humanity are reducible to 'AWALT'. The philosophical approach that some humans, by virtue of the involuntary conditions of their birth, have less access to the truth or less value as seekers of truth, is very much counter to the humanist emphasis on the dynamic nature of humanity. I consider myself a rationalist - most humanists do - and TRP encourages decision-making without individual contextual inquiry and the diminishment of others' potential as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/19 02:32 PM |
| 2 | If Hypergamy is true, where are all the leftover high value womenit's because I'm the TA for orgo II which makes me High Value | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/19 04:37 AM |
| 15 | If Hypergamy is true, where are all the leftover high value womenAll of the leftover high value women are dating me personally. They are feeding me grapes and massaging my shoulders right now as I type this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/19 02:38 AM |
| 5 | Legitimate Opinion Question:You fuckin got this, man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/19 01:25 AM |
| 6 | Legitimate Opinion Question:It sounds like you already know what was going on here - you like her, you were nervous, it's not the sort of situation in which you're comfortable. Five years from now, in an identical situation, with more experience, I'm sure you'll kiss the girl. When you've grown more comfortable with 'wanting to kiss someone -> they also want to kiss me -> I kiss them' as a sequence of events, the fact that it's a girl you really really like will still make it more nerve-wracking, but no longer prohibitivel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/19 01:20 AM |
| 2 | If your sister, a close female relative or your close female friend was interested in a guy who employed TRP hookup tactics, would you voice your opinion on the situation?I have a long and storied history of third-wheeling on my close friends' dates and I would do that, just to see what one of you guys is like in person. My opinion would depend on the guy in question rather than my assumptions of him based on his apparent engagement with TRP. If he could hold his own in a snappy conversation over dinner and didn't seem like an asshole, I'd be like... mazel tov, you two crazy kids have fun, call me if he starts using acronyms and you need help decoding! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 11:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.It would make communication much easier if you, personally, could read or accept any accountability whatsoever for the way you engage. Blame gender if you want, but you're the one cloaking yourself in anti-intellectualism as though it makes you look like anything other than an asshole. That's not a man problem, that's a you problem, and it's worth working on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 11:29 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.I'm sorry long words, short words, and 'what you said in your own comments' seem to all be so confusing to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 11:15 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (20 January 2019)Happy birthday! Enjoy that endless salad and breadsticks in good health! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 10:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.Rhetorical questions founded on the assumption that your conversational partner 1) is an idiot sociologist couching lack of understanding in long words 2) has entirely never considered the cross-cultural history of gender relations 3) is adding flavor to text at the expense of content do not reflect an intellectually honest entrance to a dialogue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 06:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.It really wasn't an honest question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 06:37 PM |
| 7 | Q4All: What are your political beliefs and how do they fit or conflict with your pill?I'm a hardline humanist; everyone deserves to be alive, every human has access to an important piece of the truth of the world, every human deserves the opportunity to better themselves and the piece of the world they inhabit in safety. I wouldn't call myself any pill, though I sympathize much more with BP perspectives than with RP perspectives, largely because I see TRP as an obstacle to acknowledging and acting from an understanding of mutual humanity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 05:20 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women: Would you rather be seen as cute or sexy?Eldritch, and failing that, cute. My celebrity 'lookalike', in face and body type, is Julia Hafstrom, and with a kinda weird-cute face and very lanky body as a starting point, 'sexy' takes a lot more work than I'm willing to put in regularly. + I'm currently early career and in no position to turn down mentorship/advice, and people are more willing to help someone approachable than someone intimidating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 05:04 PM |
| 3 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.Ever considered why so many different cultures and religions shared this belief? Great job changing my view that TRP philosophy interferes with viewing women as equals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 04:07 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (20 January 2019)Thinking of you, it's hard as shit but it's worth doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 03:40 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions."We've all been burned too many times to think of our lovers as human" is one of the saddest and most counterintuitive suggestions I've ever heard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 03:38 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.I'm a biochemist. The 'system that's been at work' for generations has relied on assumptions of female moral and intellectual inferiority. In this way, TRP is more of the same. Don't need a sociology class to see that seeing someone as a child isn't seeing them as equally human. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 03:35 PM |
| 6 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.Speaking the same language would be great; it would be great if TRP's philosophy was 'men and women are just human people, level with them as equals and understand that, in the same way that social context and upbringing influence men, women can also be subject to prevailing cultural narratives and pressures'. 'AWALT' is not a useful heuristic for bridging gaps. It's a great way to take the BP caricature of a woman-on-a-pedestal and turn her into an RP caricature of woman-as-a-petulant-child, an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 05:21 AM |
| 4 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.You're citing OP as an authority on TRP, when the prevailing 'AWALT' and other fundamental principles of TRP are very much in keeping with my interpretation. Make a post about how 'some women, once you get to know them, are sincere, good people and want the best for you' and tell me how that goes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 03:54 AM |
| 3 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.What TRP have you been reading? OP isn't speaking for TRP, he's offering his interpretation of TRP, and I'm arguing that he's wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 02:21 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (20 January 2019)Don't envy you right now, getting off fentanyl was the hardest thing I've ever done. Opioids are a bitch and a half. I don't think I could do it again if I ever went back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 01:27 AM |
| 5 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.This will cause men and women to have the difficult and tough conversations but it will also help the sexes to see eye to eye and bridge a communication gap. OP's view, which I am challenging here, is that TRP encourages 'honest dialogues' between men and women. What you're describing as 'talking with women' is instead 'attracting/seducing women'. OP says: It's also about personality and compatibility and vetting women out to make sure that they are actually decent people who want the best for y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 01:22 AM |
| 6 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.I believe that's what you mean when you say AWALT, but I also believe that it would be more accurate to say 'no one should expect unconditional love from anyone based solely on their gender'. TRP makes observations of humans and falsely applies them specifically to women in a framework that plays on assumptions of female inferiority, both of intellectual and moral character. These assumptions do not lead men to 'better' relationship and marriage decisions, and make it more difficult for men to f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 01:03 AM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.I'm at no point arguing that what you do isn't working for you. I don't believe RP teachings are the royal road to success, particularly as they emphasize many things that contradict your strategy: uniform assumptions of inferiority of women, prescriptive rather than contextual strategizing, and emphasis on creating/leveraging vs bridging gaps with partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 12:48 AM |
| 6 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.My conclusion was that "you can't have 'tough conversations' and 'bridge the gap' with a member of a set of people you consider in equal parts inherently predisposed to duplicity/manipulation and childish/fundamentally irrational". It doesn't sound like you're having tough conversations and bridging the gap with your girlfriends, it sounds like you're adopting behaviors in order to encourage them to behave in certain ways. I'm glad that's worked for you so far, but that isn't the same thing as l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 12:30 AM |
| 20 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.This will cause men and women to have the difficult and tough conversations but it will also help the sexes to see eye to eye and bridge a communication gap. The issue that I have with this part of the argument particularly is that TRP teachings don't encourage talking with women or having difficult conversations with women; they stress that certain facts about women are immutable, that the current state of affairs is immutable, and that there are only a strict, prescriptive set of ways to inter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/19 08:19 PM |
| 1 | What would bother you more with an (almost) ideal partner: emotional or sexual unsatisfaction?- frequency preferences, whether informed by lifestyle or libido - acts that one partner might enjoy but another partner might not - preferences for particular forms of foreplay or extent to which partners 'need' foreplay to enjoy sex - philosophical approaches to sex, if one partner treats it as recreation and the other takes it very seriously etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/19 10:23 PM |
| 2 | What do you think would happen to the dating scene if Androids that could mimic human came out?I'm the dancey one and Ava is my wife, she knows when to put her foot down and turn the music off, thankfully. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 11:09 PM |
| 4 | What do you think would happen to the dating scene if Androids that could mimic human came out?The ex machina robot and I would get together and I'd be so happy. This would change the dating scene because I'd be off it plotting world domination with my murderous wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 10:23 PM |
| 14 | When it comes to attracting women, why does it have to be this way for men?Everyone is complicated. Even you, even me. It can be difficult to accept that other people have rich inner lives outside of ourselves, but once you can eagerly accept Jeffrey Dahmer as a person, I hope that indicates that you're a step closer to recognizing that everyone else is, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 07:09 AM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts on the idea that compliance with women gradually lowers their sexual attraction?You're putting all kinds of motivations to this imaginary woman. Is any man overthinking it this much? No, it's just annoying when someone insists 'you choose, I want to do what you want!' and sublimates their desires at the expense of their actual enthusiasm. My point is exactly that. Understanding this is fundamental to understanding all human behavior, not just that of women in relationships with men: boring people are boring, whether their motivation is 'I love you so much that I want to [ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 05:07 AM |
| 10 | When it comes to attracting women, why does it have to be this way for men?Being a woman is different in terms of consequences to dating, not better or worse. I don't believe I would flip-flop quite so absolutely. I date women as well as men and acknowledge that there are different expectations, but I consider them neutral and more or less interchangeable. 'Being loved for who I truly am versus for the behaviors/attributes I deliberately maintain' is a human anxiety and struggle, not inherently a male one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 02:48 AM |
| 1 | When it comes to attracting women, why does it have to be this way for men?I'm not kidding when I say I have every one of the novelizations on my bookshelf right this moment, not two meters from my desk. I fucking loved that shit as a youth and I did a reread like last year and they stand up pretty well, if you like moderately campy mysteries. I agree that the characterization of Monk, especially, both 'sharpens' him and heightens the sense that his behavior is sincerely disruptive and aggravating (no cute music as he is 'misbehaving') while also decreasing his apparen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 02:22 AM |
| 7 | What are your thoughts on the idea that compliance with women gradually lowers their sexual attraction?"Compliance with" anyone, in excess, is unattractive. To cite common examples of this behavior as unattractive outside of men: woman who can't make up her mind where to eat, woman who passively accepts sexual advances without seemingly being into it, woman who doesn't care to guide conversation towards interesting subjects and is thus a boring conversational partner. "Acting on values" is always going to be more attractive and interesting than "sublimating/ignoring values". Of course a person wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 02:05 AM |
| 5 | What would bother you more with an (almost) ideal partner: emotional or sexual unsatisfaction?In twenty minutes it's already been said quite well, but while neither is great, sexual satisfaction/compatibility is a lot harder to improve with an otherwise ideal partner. Someone who you're not having sex with and don't particularly mutually want to have sex with but whose company you otherwise enjoy is, by my standards, a friend. Some people have different standards, value romantic validation more, don't value sex at all or value it very little, and that's fine and I hope they find each oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 01:39 AM |
| 26 | When it comes to attracting women, why does it have to be this way for men?Thank you for summing this up, I think this is putting it very succinctly. 'Being loved for who I truly am versus for the behaviors/attributes I deliberately maintain' is a human anxiety and struggle, not inherently a male one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 01:32 AM |
| 39 | When it comes to attracting women, why does it have to be this way for men?Everybody is complicated, human, subject to external and internal pressures, and constantly in flux. Most people aren't the right person for any one person to be in an LTR with. I might be a great match for 5% of the world right now, and a guy might be a great match for a different 5% of the world. A few months from now, especially if we're young, we'll still be a good match for 5% of the world, but it may be a slightly different 5%, because we'll be slightly different people. And maybe now it o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 01:16 AM |
| 1 | What height requirement do women put in online dating?Depends on the woman, her height, and what she's looking for. My preference is usually 5'6-6'0 in person, since I'm 5'9 and prefer around my height, but I'm generally not picky about height given how picky I already am about whether or not we get along easily and pleasantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 07:27 PM |
| 4 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (13 January 2019)So, you see, he was lashing out with sexist language because he had his heart broken. We all learned something! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 02:13 PM |
| 8 | Do women realize men don't naturally get a "moderate" amount of muscle?I think some of the people who assume fitness just comes naturally themselves have great trouble with fitness and thus assume that, for the people who 'look like that', there's no amount of effort that works to 'get there', one just has to be there, since periods of strenuous effort on their part haven't had desired results. Certainly some of it is just harboring false assumptions/minimal familiarity with physiology, and some of it is doubling down on these views and becoming defensive after bei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/19 11:43 PM |
| 1 | If one ignores gender roles, then does a person's gender cease to matter?My gender doesn't matter to me at all, but I acknowledge that it matters to other people and that presenting in certain ways changes the way I am perceived. In [online] communities where we don't talk about gender, I just never use pronouns for myself and never correct anyone who uses he, she, or they. Not everyone has the same relationship with their gender that I do (near complete ambivalence) and for some people, they're trying to make up for lost ground and lost time when they change their i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/19 11:33 PM |
| 2 | Ladies, if you were a man, what would be some of your deal-breakers if you were choosing a woman to date?Same as my dealbreakers now as a bi woman who dates women: - not kind to me or others - doesn't particularly like me or I don't particularly like her - lives prohibitively far away - uninterested in bettering herself and the world | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/19 11:21 PM |
| 1 | What are examples of intra masculine competition that are either useless or self defeating re: romantic attraction in women?Yeah, I think the interesting thing is that, for all of the examples of 'thing taken beyond the rational limits of its usefulness [in attracting a partner]' there's usually someone who's... into it. Like, there's a woman out there who's disappointed constantly in her boyfriend's outfits, wishing he'd wear the kind of moderately-over-the-top styles my ex was into. There's a lot of those women out there, in existence. They'd all appreciate the 'display' much more than I would, and would probably b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/19 07:34 PM |
| 2 | What are examples of intra masculine competition that are either useless or self defeating re: romantic attraction in women?So, the gist I'm getting here is: what do men do that is attractive/a significant factor in performing attractiveness, but can easily become pathological and actively harmful to the man/his attractiveness when overdone? Many of the same things that you describe in women can become pathological in men. Hyperattentiveness to hair, hair loss, hair maintenance is one that I've observed. My most recent ex lived in fear that he was going bald, and spent more time on his hair than I spent on mine, whic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/19 07:14 PM |
| 5 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (13 January 2019)A quote for the morning from one of my current favorite poets, Hera Lindsay Bird: O let us not be little bitches to one another Life is hard enough as it is Life is hard enough and fast enough And there is nothing in this world worth doing But shaking our heads in awe | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/19 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Dealing with men who have baggageRelationships that can't survive honesty shouldn't. In my highly professional opinion. "if we want the rewards of being loved we have to submit to the mortifying ordeal of being known." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/19 01:29 PM |
| 2 | Dealing with men who have baggageI'm 22 and a woman - everyone's got bullshit, not everyone is handling it well. My advice as someone who is younger than you and very stupid in general is: if you don't enjoy something about a partner, and you're willing to bite the bullet, bring it up and figure out what they want. The only way to 'know' is to ask. Say, in the situation you're describing: "Hey, it seems like you're still pretty involved with the idea of your ex. I get it. Are you looking to move on right now? I've really enjoye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/19 03:17 AM |
| 4 | Q4A: How many PPD Practice Kink?Every relationship is different in my experience. I'm very versatile, and I'm a lot more interested in working with my partner's energy than I am walking in with a prescribed role. I've dated women (and like one guy) who were more passive in bed, and mostly-men who struggled to give up any sort of control of anything. Most people, I'm pretty sure, orient themselves at least marginally to match whoever they're with. There's stuff I'm just not into - I won't degrade someone, and I won't be degrade… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/19 04:29 PM |
| 3 | Which would you rather do?Nice try, Heath Ledger era Joker, I know neither one of them will blow up unless one of us acts to destroy the other, thereby unmasking the monstrous nature cloaked by our facades of human decency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/19 03:25 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: What does friendship mean to you?F, 22, humanist who answers questions directed towards blue pill because blue pill isn't so much a movement as it is a group of people who like making fun of TRP For me friendship is something people share when they enjoy spending time with each other and do so preferentially over other opportunities - when just a person's company imparts value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 10:52 PM |
| 1 | No, it's not morally justified for Mackenzie Bezos to receive half the wealth in the divorce.Get rid of the USPS and see how well Amazon does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 09:29 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: do you feel like there are things you can get away with simply because you are a woman?They're scientists, they know the risks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 05:09 AM |
| 1 | No, it's not morally justified for Mackenzie Bezos to receive half the wealth in the divorce.The USPS has done more for society than 1000 Amazons Amazoning for 100 years ever could. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 02:19 AM |
| 1 | No, it's not morally justified for Mackenzie Bezos to receive half the wealth in the divorce.Jeff Bezos is not the most productive person in society by a long shot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 02:17 AM |
| 14 | Q4W: do you feel like there are things you can get away with simply because you are a woman?Not all women (or men) want to fuck me, buddy, I've tried. I dare you to go up to the under-attended children of ten different harried mothers in public and start playing with them. Your experience of the consequences of this action will be different than mine. Yes, that's what I'm talking about - men's sadness and fear is systematically mocked and discounted in much the same way that you, here, offer a stellar example of the mocking and discounting of women's anger and frustration. This gesture… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 01:27 AM |
| 23 | Q4W: do you feel like there are things you can get away with simply because you are a woman?It's more expected of me (as a woman, in general) to ask for help when I need or even just want it People trust me with their children, even babies, almost immediately - some of this is specifically because I am a very innocuous looking young white woman, but gender is a large part of that equation. My fear, sadness, and tears in general carry more weight than those of a man, the corollary being that my expressions of anger or frustration carry much less weight. Other people are quicker to trust… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 11:58 PM |
| 1 | How true is the "Hot women barely get hit on" meme?I didn't have the perspective to value other people's feelings. I like to be the best at things, and the people who immediately befriended me/gave me somewhere to sit at lunch were themselves extremely mean. When someone tries to talk to me today, I do my best to give the impression that I'm interested in and value what they're saying. In high school, I got a real kick out of making other people feel stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 03:56 PM |
| 6 | No, it's not morally justified for Mackenzie Bezos to receive half the wealth in the divorce.Not all of us, just, this year, Jeff and Mackenzie Bezos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 03:48 AM |
| 8 | No, it's not morally justified for Mackenzie Bezos to receive half the wealth in the divorce.It's not 'morally justified' based on their 'material contributions' for either of the Bezoses to have accumulated such an indescribable quantity of wealth. The best idea I've ever heard for how to deal with this is, in the hypothetical, is a 'richest person in the world' contest. Every year the richest person in the world gets a nice plaque and a 'congratulations!' ceremony, and then they get to give it all back and start over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 02:55 AM |
| 1 | How true is the "Hot women barely get hit on" meme?The most attractive man that I can imagine is someone like Danny McFadden or Manny Jacinto, but I think I'd be a shitty girlfriend right now - getting over a breakup, about to graduate, not sure where I'm going to be working in six months, health a little iffy - so it'd be a 'thanks - very flattering - but no thanks.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 02:13 AM |
| 7 | Q4W - If you were one of 100 women on a stranded island with one man who was a very unattractive beta, how would you act in that SMP?I'll build a beautiful seaside house just for you, Oryx, and we'll have all of the coconut liquor that I can distill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 12:01 AM |
| 4 | Q4W - If you were one of 100 women on a stranded island with one man who was a very unattractive beta, how would you act in that SMP?Brutal, yasee, I would have shared if you asked nicely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 11:58 PM |
| 3 | Q4W - If you were one of 100 women on a stranded island with one man who was a very unattractive beta, how would you act in that SMP?I'm literally at a historically all-female liberal arts college. We have a good time without men, in my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 11:57 PM |
| 8 | Q4W - If you were one of 100 women on a stranded island with one man who was a very unattractive beta, how would you act in that SMP?e. I am bisexual. At least one of the other women is probably gay. I think my odds are better of getting along with a random gay woman than a random straight man. We'd have a nice life together, and since it's an island, that would make my choice about going into marine biochem/virology for me, effectively. At this low-population moment, my wife and I would have our pick of beachside real estate. I've done enough developmental/cell bio work that I could probably help with the artificial insemina… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 11:55 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Do you or would you consider makeup/plastic surgery to be dishonest?No, I'm being quite consistent, you seem not to be reading competently. If someone is good at doing their makeup, the preconditions for that state are artistic capability and dedication to looking a certain way. It is literally impossible to do an effective full face of makeup without artistic capability and dedication to looking a certain way. When a person has a full face of makeup on, the two things that I can and should rationally assume about that person are that they possess artistic capab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 10:44 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: Do you or would you consider makeup/plastic surgery to be dishonest?I think my opinion is clear from my response. All actions, in isolation, are entirely neutral until one considers intentions. Makeup done with the intention to deceive for malicious purposes is 'deceptive' in the same way that purchasing a fancy dictionary with the intention to deceive for malicious purposes is 'deceptive'. I consider both makeup and plastic surgery to be, in isolation from the context of specific instances, honest signals of artistic capability and dedication or wealth and will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 09:48 PM |
| 5 | Q4All: Do you or would you consider makeup/plastic surgery to be dishonest?Makeup is a skill, and someone who is skilled with makeup, dressing themselves, etc. is very attractive to me. It's an indication that they can and have applied themselves to learning something that can advance their standing and perception in the world. Plastic surgery indicates, I guess, that they have money and the willingness to subvert sociocultural norms about accessing cosmetic surgery, but I'm kind of ambivalent about those traits in a partner, so I'm pretty neutral on plastic surgery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 08:55 PM |
| 2 | How true is the "Hot women barely get hit on" meme?I was pretty but very mean in high school - as 'the new girl' starting in junior year, I easily made friends with women who were also pretty and extremely mean, and men left me alone. I think the reputation for being mean probably did it more than being conventionally attractive. At the present I can't say I get hit on a lot, but I also deliberately limit the amount of time I spend with or around men. I'm not looking to date or have any kind of a relationship right now and the hottest person on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 06:29 PM |
| 1 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?I think it helps that I'm funny and right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 05:05 AM |
| 2 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?Maybe so. I'm still much kinder, functional, and more pleasant to be around now, and in the future I will be kinder, more functional, and more pleasant to be around. Just because it hasn't happened to you by 32 doesn't mean you can't work on being a better person, and it doesn't mean no one else is doing it. Your experiences aren't universal, thank god. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 05:03 AM |
| 2 | Messages about dangerous men you have received in your life?It certainly gets people's attention! Meanwhile, I've heard someone shout 'fire' before - admittedly in a lab where I was working - and I didn't go 'oh boy, I should go help that person', I thought 'they're warning me so I can get out before this place blows up, that's nice of them' and left along with the rest of the staff... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 02:54 AM |
| 3 | PurplePillDebate users and relationships to other subreddits based on user activityThat's 99.99% of the fun! It's campy and hilarious and entirely like football or horse racing, and there's a ton of lore walking in and it feels like you've cracked the goddamned Da Vinci code once you start really being able to anticipate exactly what's going to happen next. You have to get a crew together to make it fun, and then you trash it for the next week before you get together to watch it again. That product sounds really amazing - I know there's a ton of nail products that have become … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 02:51 AM |
| 2 | PurplePillDebate users and relationships to other subreddits based on user activityI'm already completely spoiled on this season, but based on the intros I love Kirpa and I'm actually really fond of Onyeka and hope she doesn't get an awful cut. I think Demi is going to be a great villain once they get rid of Catherine and the poor dog. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 02:43 AM |
| 2 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?Eighteen year old Civil would have already doxxed you and told both you and your mom to kill yourselves if it meant she won the argument. I was ranked first in the country in my debate event and I was the worst person alive. Believe it or not, I used to be meaner, and in a few years I hope to mellow out even further. Coke skanks contribute something to society, I did not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 02:37 AM |
| 3 | Thoughts on socializing or dating at work and people who refuse to do so?Most of the people who've been social towards me at various work places (ranging from retail to labs) have been women. Most men that I meet in the workplace, save for the worst job I ever had, which was a waking nightmare, have been pleasant but shown little interest in being friends/associating outside of work, which suits me just fine. The one male friend I've made through work, and still talk to occasionally, is notably gay. Meanwhile I've found women, especially in male-dominated spaces, are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 10:29 PM |
| 3 | PurplePillDebate users and relationships to other subreddits based on user activityI recently cracked after half a year of 'buying makeup abstinence' and bought some new lashes and white liner. Sephora gave me a ton of points on my birthday, too, so I'm looking forward to burning through those. I work in a lab that strongly discourages any makeup whatsoever, because the protective gear is a bitch to clean, so I go big on my off days to make up for it. I generously donated my nail polish collection to a cousin when I left for college and haven't worn it since. I dated a girl wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 10:09 PM |
| 2 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?I still have exactly one friend left over from being eighteen, because I was a piece of shit, and so were the people who could stand me, and not all of us grew out of it. Those who haven't yet are still generally better than they were, but man, I was there, and I fucking sucked. I was on the debate team. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 08:48 PM |
| 5 | PurplePillDebate users and relationships to other subreddits based on user activityI can't believe that only a negligible amount of you also post about makeup and The Bachelor. I really am a vapid piece of shit, alone in the universe. :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 08:32 PM |
| 1 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?People upvote me because I'm funny and right. You could try it, if you care. "I really only need the basics" ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 06:46 PM |
| 15 | Messages about dangerous men you have received in your life?My dad sat me down some time when I was about 5-6 and told me, 'do you know the rule that we don't bite or scratch or kick, since it can hurt someone? in some situations, when you're scared, if a stranger tries to bring you somewhere, if they try to tell you that mama or papa told them it was okay to get you, if they say they have a puppy or candy, or if they just put their hands on you in a way that you don't like, that rule doesn't apply. you bite, you scratch, you kick with the big muscles in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 03:16 PM |
| 2 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?I was 21 until this Wednesday but alas, the wall looms. Early-twenties women have sticks up their asses. They're among the angriest people I know - which isn't to say anything cruel about other women in my age group, or myself, just that my generation has grown up with the internet's anonymous and named cruelty, with endless war and fear of terrorism, with #metoo and the conditions that lead to the movement... the sweet, feminine, un-jaded woman you're looking for doesn't consistently exist in a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 02:59 PM |
| 1 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?I have 'dat hubris doe' tattooed on my face, that's what it's like to be 22. But if you think I'm shit now, I was an order of magnitude worse at 18, and I'll be an order of magnitude better at 30. Shitty people come at any age. You forfeit the assumption of innocence when you date someone to whom people prefer not to attribute agency. That's a reason to look for a partner that the people around you would consider your equal, if you care what the people around you think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: APA says Traditional Masculinity is toxicWhere was I 'blaming' 'toxic masculinity'. Predictable, enforced patterns of behavior are easily exploited by capitalism. Socioculturally enforced masculine archetypes make men easy to control - to incarcerate, to send to war, to endanger in the workplace. 'Toxic masculinity' is masculinity that isn't 'working'. It's a hammer when the tool you need is a screwdriver. Masculinity is just masculinity when society reasonably accommodates it, when it's a rational response to sociocultural conditions.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 02:37 PM |
| 1 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?So hot. Jaw-droppingly hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Women who date assholes in their youth don't deserve sympathyMy counterpoint here is that everyone 'deserves' sympathy, in the sense that everyone can benefit from compassion and society would function more smoothly and with less unnecessary suffering if we made more overtures to help each other rather than to kick someone once they're down. If you want to punish women into/for acting a certain way, these methods will be legitimized, and more men - and women - will be punished as a tool for behavioral modification. And it likely won't play out in the way … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: APA says Traditional Masculinity is toxicIt's hard, because some people will use any meaningful phrase or movement or observed pattern of behavior to advance their own position at the cost of others. (some people are malicious rational actors) And at the same time, some people are never going to be able to see the nuances in a situation and are going to draw incorrect conclusions in the process of transitioning, because changing roles is a lot harder than maintaining a static role. (some people have limited faculties for responding to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 10:13 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: APA says Traditional Masculinity is toxicThe gap between what is 'perfectly rational' and what we actually do is where capitalism flourishes. If every person trading stocks had access to unlimited information and acted with perfect rationality, no one would make any money. Profit comes at someone's expense. When men work under unsafe conditions without making a fuss and die or injure themselves in the workplace for their troubles, women don't profit; their employer profits. When men are willing to purchase a shitty burger because they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 09:42 PM |
| 3 | Discussion: APA says Traditional Masculinity is toxicToxic masculinity, in my view, is broadly 'the harm done by expectations of masculinity incongruent with reality'. If you teach men to fight uncompromisingly, but put them in a classroom rather than a battlefield, those expectations of masculinity will do them a disservice. Effectively, if his masculine-conditioning to fight without compromise and refuse to entertain challenges to his views prevents him from learning/succeeding, he's hurt himself. If you put the man who's been taught to base his… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 08:57 PM |
| 1 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?Make sure you list me as a reference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 06:38 PM |
| 2 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?What are you doing talking to me? Go, be with your rich and hot fighty bitch! That sounds much more fun than reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 06:26 PM |
| 1 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?No, I'm being entirely sincere. I'm always right. You'll understand when you're 22. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Awalt is a hilarious concept when you consider your mom.Do we have the same mom? This description suits my mom perfectly. Based on this post, I conclude that we have the same mom, which is to say... AWALT, she's living a double life and she's satisfying her hypergamy by also being married to my dad, just because we don't know doesn't mean it's not happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 04:24 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP - How can we trust what feminists say?Accusations of someone being a 'Nazi' mean as much as accusations of someone being an 'SJW' or a 'feminist': literally nothing other than 'person I disagree with' - unless, of course, the accusation is directed at eugenicsgirl1488 when she calls a non-white person subhuman and suggests a final, institutional solution to some particular societal problem. Self-professed identity as a Nazi means something very different and lends itself to a much more specific set of reliable assumptions about a pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 04:11 PM |
| 0 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?Yes. I'm twenty-two and I know everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 04:05 PM |
| 1 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?Alas, this irreconcilable generation gap between generation z and millennials can never be surmounted. Bet you remember 9/11, grandpa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 02:45 PM |
| 1 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?Ah, yes, the normal rational way people draw conclusions: looking at rote numbers of people who say or don't say it rather than paying attention to silly distractions like 'recency of the standard-setting' and 'credibility of the source'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 02:30 PM |
| 2 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?You really need to go to sleep if you think 'Pew Research Centre's most recent standards' is outweighed in any respect by an MTV/set of retailers' surveys. I gave you a list of examples, expecting you could read through and make your own judgements, but clearly I was wrong - how like a stupid gen-z-er of me! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 02:27 PM |
| 2 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?Oh well. I'll take the compliments where I can get 'em. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 02:16 PM |
| 1 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?I, too, when I'm tired and need to go to bed, act like a know-it-all jerk on subjects I clearly know nothing about on the internet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 02:05 PM |
| 1 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?Statistics Canada defines Generation Z as starting with the birth year 1993.[27] Statistics Canada does not recognize a traditional Millennials cohort and instead has Generation Z directly follow what it designates as Children of Baby boomers.[28] Randstad Canada describes Generation Z as those born between 1995–2014.[29][30] Australia's McCrindle Research Centre defines Generation Z as those born between 1995–2009, starting with a recorded rise in birth rates, and fitting their newer definition… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 02:03 PM |
| 4 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?being a naive retard like you showed in your post is what makes you attractive Is this your way of asking me out? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 01:59 PM |
| 3 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?Joke's on you: I'm already boring and not hot, and ten years from now the only thing that will have changed is that I'll be less of a flighty bitch and have more money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 01:59 PM |
| 4 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?All of my posts are performance art about why 22 year olds suck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 01:53 PM |
| 0 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?The cutoff is broadly agreed upon to be 1995-1997. I was born in 1997. Feelin' old? Also, jesus christ, there's a generation between X and Z. My parents are gen X. Millennials are next. I'm not sure why anyone would walk into that comment like 'oh, there's a guy who knows about how generations are generally used to draw conclusions about age-related data'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 01:42 PM |
| 2 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?I've never dated a man more than two years older than me. I don't need an artificial barrier to sit on and feel morally justified, I'm twenty-two and I think I'm always right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 01:39 PM |
| 6 | What do you feel is the difference in the experience redpill vs blue pill men have when viewing an attractive woman?Personally, my eyes bulge out of my skull like party balloons when I see a hot broad with big bahongas and I make a kind of noise like 'boi-oi-oi-oing' but that could just be me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 05:05 AM |
| 9 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?If you're spending time with the kind of woman who, in complete seriousness, wants to be called/treated as a queen, that's, uh, another very valid reason to lean towards women your own age. If you don't want to maximize success, endurance, and happiness within your relationships, because you prefer the bare minimum, I don't think anyone's gonna be able to convince you of anything relating to priorities beyond possession of the necessary anatomy. Keep fucking with those queens, king. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 03:22 AM |
| 10 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?If she views you as an equal, she's wrong. Most 22 year olds are not equal in experience and capabilities to 32 year olds. If you want her to view you as a 'king', that's your problem; unless you've got a title and a country, you're not that, either. You're speculating incorrectly. I want to tell you, as I see it, the truth, using anecdotal or, if necessary, published evidence. My claims can be backed up with data if you would prefer. Why should a man, in theory, seek to date a woman of his own … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 03:13 AM |
| 10 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?You're talking about [women as a lump]. I'm talking about a specific woman, dating the same guy as a 22yo vs a 32yo. She's more likely to value him as an equal, more functional as a human being, less likely to get a job offer in Juneau and disappear, more likely to sincerely share his interests, and dating her is far less likely to provoke social ire. You date a person, not [all women in the relevant age group]. I have literally no reason to scare/shame men out of dating twenty year olds (I'm a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 02:47 AM |
| 4 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (06 January 2019)My college finally posted grades so I'm here to brag about my straight B+s because I can't tell my parents or they'll make fun of me. I worked my ass off this semester, took double lab credits, and I'm still holding on to that roughly-3.5. Plus this study, which shows that women are rewarded in the hiring process for a GPA between B/B+ and called back for interviews less often when their GPAs exceed B-range, is making the rounds on Twitter so @my dad I'M NOT A DISAPPOINTMENT JUST GOTTA GAME THE … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 02:37 AM |
| 38 | What does a man in his 30s have to gain from dating a woman in her 30s versus dating a woman in her 20s?Here is the thing: I'm 22. As a 22 year old woman, I can acknowledge that I fucking suck, relative to who I'm going to be. Statistically, more women in their early twenties are fitter/more capable of physical activity, okay, and maybe my being an absolute dumbass might be endearing to someone who thinks that specific quality is endearing. But compare 22 year old me to 32 year old me, and I can tell you right now - you can take this to the bank - I will have more to offer a 32 year old man when I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 02:22 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: Why do so many women here try to steer men to consuming hobbies, monasteries or homosexuality? Is it so uncomfortable to consider undesirable men as sexual beings?If you've got a local gym or a local crag, climbing is honestly worth doing. And if you start now, you'll be much better than me by the time you make it over! ...Just like that, I've duped another innocent man into doing something enjoyable, rewarding, and great for meeting people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 11:21 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: Why do so many women here try to steer men to consuming hobbies, monasteries or homosexuality? Is it so uncomfortable to consider undesirable men as sexual beings?No one here is on my back in the first place. Men here are far more likely to encounter me in the wild if they take up rock climbing or get involved in local activism, and if they enjoy it, we'll actually have something to talk about. Women should also have hobbies. Lmk when you guys are in the northeast and we'll pull some plastic together. Edit: also if any women here are interested in being steered into homosexuality, I'm the one to talk to about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP - How can we trust what feminists say?You're making a lot of generalizations here without evidence - if you dislike feminism so ardently, and assuming it's 'feminists' rather than 'progressive figureheads' who've taught you this, I'd imagine that's a lesson of theirs that you might want to try to un-learn, as it doesn't serve you well here. I hope that you will make an effort to critically evaluate what people are saying to you in the future, and to look more closely at the world around you rather than just the parts of it that upse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 07:01 PM |
| 3 | What exactly is stopping PPD from becoming a "Mod-rule" sub?I was a mod on an incel sub for a while. Low bar, but these mods are much better at their jobs than I was or am, speaking relatively. Part of modding is making sometimes-unpopular choices before things get out of control, and they do a pretty darn good job of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP - How can we trust what feminists say?Perhaps the best analogy that I can offer: feminism is like punk. It started out as a group of people with similar stances who read similar things and shared similar views. Now it's a t-shirt. The prevailing 'definition' has stuck, and the vast majority of self-declared feminists would agree on what 'feminism', generally, means, per the popular Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie-sampled-by-Beyonce definition. Social, political, and economic equality of the sexes. The overwhelming majority of self-declared… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 06:03 PM |
| 8 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (06 January 2019)Hey hey hey, guess who's no longer the worst 21-year-old know-it-all asshole on this sub! It's my birthday, I finished a project early at work, and I'm going out with some of my oldest friends tonight to eat my own weight in sushi and hit a stand up comedy open mic, and now I'm 22! The wall is calling... Here's one of my favorite boppy indie pop songs since I'm in a good mood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 05:34 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (06 January 2019)I'm a prodigious fake plastic tree collector and I've decided that I consider this more important than the joys of parenthood. Yes, we exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 05:28 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP - How can we trust what feminists say?I'm not getting into this: I don't consider myself a feminist, this isn't my fight. What I'm saying, over and over again, is that the one fundamental thing you could expect the vast majority of the people who would call themselves feminists, in a mess of different values and priorities and motivations, is general support for the sociopolitical equality of the sexes. Beyond this, you can't reasonably expect two randomly selected people who call themselves 'feminists' - a Facebook mom and Matthew … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 05:24 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP - How can we trust what feminists say?I'm talking about a difference in what one can realistically conclude about a person based on the knowledge 'this person is a self-declared feminist' vs. the knowledge 'this person is a self-declared Nazi'. Feminism as a label is effectively meaningless. It's a girl-power slogan or it's a hardcore Derald Wing Sue-citing activist or it's literally Kimberle Crenshaw or Hillary Clinton or a piece of fracking equipment painted pink or a gender-nihilist screed-writer. I say 'oh, you'll hate my cousin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 04:52 PM |
| 3 | Are women hypergamy shamed in our society?Sociocultural pressures influence almost all of the decisions we make, but you would be hard-pressed to find a woman who was truly choosing her partners based on their wealth and status. Wealth and status are among the factors that influence a woman's predisposition to like a person, to look for what's lovable in them, to interpret their traits in a more positive light, but it's not deliberate. It makes sense to me, that women faced with the kind of accusations into which TRP generally channels … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP - How can we trust what feminists say?😜 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP - How can we trust what feminists say?🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 12:59 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP - How can we trust what feminists say?I hope you meet many more pleasant people where you don't expect them - you'd be surprised how many people are just bopping along, doing the best that they can, looking to make their corner of the world a little more survivable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 11:52 AM |
| 1 | The feminist talking point that women are hired less than men in the working environment is complete horseshitThat's my experience as a woman in a male-dominated field, and my father's experience as a man in a female-dominated field. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 11:50 AM |
| 4 | Q4BP - How can we trust what feminists say?Humanists like me tend to be really big on valuing individuals over generalizations. I think every human is special, and certainly some are unpleasant, and some are women, and some are feminists, and some are all three of those things, and it's easy to try to draw conclusions based on heuristics and not see the people in front of us as complex individuals who are capable of growing and changing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 11:12 AM |
| 2 | Q4BP - How can we trust what feminists say?This is incoherent. Is feminism a regimented and institutionally actualized ideology with standards of entry and legal penalties imposed for staking one's identity in it, which is what Nazism is, or not? I can say I'm a Floridian and no one can prove I'm not, assuming I meet a basic assumption (have lived in Florida) - if I say I'm a Nazi, one can easily prove that I'm not based on the prescriptive set of convictions and cultural units passed between practitioners that define, specifically, Nazi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 10:54 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP - How can we trust what feminists say?I used a stretch of the truth to make my point easier to see What point? The assumption you can reasonably make of people who call themselves feminists is support for the sociopolitical equality of the sexes. The assumption you can reasonably make of people who call themselves Nazis is that they espouse the values of Nazism, including explicit authoritarianism, racial/ethnic hierarchies, and militant nationalism/nativism. Feminism as a chosen identity marker, in present-day practice, is fundamen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 09:11 AM |
| 5 | Q4BP - How can we trust what feminists say?Some people who describe themselves as feminists probably consider her behavior horrifying, and some people who describe themselves as feminists are livid to learn that someone shaves their legs, and some people who describe themselves as feminists believe the world is flat. I think it's a silly thing to write an article about, but more power to her, personally. She doesn't make any sweeping statements about what other women want. This is literally just a WaPo article about this one lady talking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 08:47 AM |
| 4 | Q4BP - How can we trust what feminists say?I explained what realistic fundamental assumptions of someone calling them a feminist today were. Someone openly claiming to be a Nazi carries a very different set of connotations and allows someone to make very different assumptions of the person in question, and I find it hard to believe that you're not aware of that. Here's what I said, in case you simply didn't read it, rather than fundamentally and willfully misinterpreting what I wrote: You can generally trust that a person calling themsel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 08:44 AM |
| 10 | Q4BP - How can we trust what feminists say?Don't make sweeping judgements on a group of people based on identity factors with no direct bearing on the quality you intend to judge. Someone being a 'feminist' does not make them inherently 'trustworthy' or 'untrustworthy'. Someone calling themselves a feminist is the same, effectively, as someone calling themselves a Floridian or a tennis player. They could have lived in Florida for five months or their whole life; they could be Serena Williams or a fifteen year old who went to a birthday p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 07:50 AM |
| 4 | The feminist talking point that women are hired less than men in the working environment is complete horseshitSpend a few weeks go-go dancing in a gay club and get back to me on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 01:00 AM |
| 6 | The feminist talking point that women are hired less than men in the working environment is complete horseshitIf you don't fit the 'type' (stand out based on identity) and do an amazingly good job, you'll get noticed and rewarded beyond someone who does fit the 'type'. If you don't fit the 'type' and are mediocre, as most people are, you may feel iced out and excluded beyond a mediocre in-group member. Most of your examples, though, are jobs in which women are preferred due to their object status. Most people consider this an expression of sexism in society, because many people think it would be prefera… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 12:28 AM |
| 1 | What is your stance on ghosting?I'm not describing a specific incident. Ghosting starts with 'not texting back for a while' and ends with 'never texting back again'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 07:30 PM |
| 2 | What is your stance on ghosting?That's called 'the first few days of being ghosted'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 07:10 PM |
| 8 | What is your stance on ghosting?You asked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 03:07 AM |
| 7 | What is your stance on ghosting?I've talked about this before; it's highly contextual. I would rather be ghosted than told 'hey, I found a much hotter girl, sorry'. I would, in most cases, prefer someone tell me 'hey, you made a few jokes at dinner that I didn't really vibe with, I'm sorry but I don't think I'm into that' - but I would understand if they weren't confident enough to say that and just kind of didn't want to deal with it. I think the best thing to do in all cases is to assume best intent, while interrogating your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 01:21 AM |
| 7 | If a stranger slapped your ass in public, how would you want your SO to handle it?I've had a few moments where I already knew the guy in question and confronted him to ensure it didn't happen again - I've found the immediate shame of someone you know turning around and going 'don't touch me, that's disgusting, I thought you were better than that' is actually a much more powerful deterrent than starting a fight. I've dated men who would have thrown the first punch without question and men who wouldn't have said a word. In most cases like this, if it were a random stranger, I'd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/19 08:35 PM |
| 2 | Do you think Briffault's law holds true for females?Generally+Sexual+selection.+Princeton+University+Press,+Princeton&ots=dw_frlPBy1&sig=M-uNNRwDOQ2jAer9Tp6KUKzDEWg#v=onepage&q=male%20selection&f=false). (page 186, male choice of females) Specific example I brought up. Briffault was never an animal behaviorist, he was a social theorist and he was wrong. Culture is mutable, human behavior is far more mutable than that of non-human animals, and within non-human animals, there is already substantial deviation from Briffault's theories. The 'rule' is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/19 03:04 PM |
| 6 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (06 January 2019)Tabasco, garlic powder, ginger, smoked paprika, and a little turmeric for color. At one point this was all I had on hand in my very sad college spice cabinet and I developed a taste for it. Very easy. Great with chicken. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/19 01:52 AM |
| 2 | Do you think the redpilled don't have consistent beliefs?I think most people don't have consistent beliefs. We all suffer to some extent from cognitive dissonance, and if someone cares about sharing their views persuasively, they should examine what they're saying for consistency with other things that they believe to better understand the basis for their opinions and how they can find common ground with those they are trying to convince. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/19 10:57 PM |
| 5 | Do any regular readers here identify as LGBT? If so, do you have any observations that would be useful regarding the relationship dynamics discussed here?I'm bisexual and have never had a useful observation in my life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/19 10:40 PM |
| 9 | Should men treat relationships as they treat their careers?How does anyone improve your life? You like them, they like you, certain activities are more fun with someone you like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/19 10:34 PM |
| 11 | Should men treat relationships as they treat their careers?I think that men should treat relationships as an opportunity to be happy and share love with someone who improves their life. I also think women should treat relationships in this way, and that if we did, we'd all be a lot happier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/19 08:49 PM |
| 34 | Do you think Briffault's law holds true for females?Briffault's law is largely discredited in the field of animal behavior. When males assume greater risk or detriment to fitness in the process of reproduction, males dictate the terms of mating (seahorses, fish species in which the male parent assumes the majority of the care for young, penguin species in which the same is true). Females usually assume more risk, in species in which birth is risky or difficult or in which the majority of brood care falls to the females, but this is far from a rul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/19 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Interested to see what people think about this listicle from a woman complaining about being single in her 30’s.It sounds like she was in a LTR at a particular life stage and missed the boat a bit. She isn't where most women are in their thirties, and that's hard. I can empathize with feeling 'different' and as though you're missing out on something; I'm sure most people here can. Her complaints are very real to her, but they're not necessarily well-articulated or especially useful to anyone reading them, since all the insight she offers is that her life is difficult and you should probably be careful abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/19 03:36 AM |
| 7 | Classy, feminine women with high standards: you discover the otherwise amazing man you are interested in has an ex-wife with a facial piercing. Would this make you think twice?Speaking for the younger crowd, a lot of my friends, including those from much 'better' backgrounds than my own, have nose piercings. It's a very socially acceptable form of rebellion, and isn't something that I immediately notice about someone anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/19 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Classy, feminine women with high standards: you discover the otherwise amazing man you are interested in has an ex-wife with a facial piercing. Would this make you think twice?People get facial piercings for a lot of reasons, and they avoid facial piercings for a lot of reasons. I would try to be sympathetic in this circumstance, despite my personal preferences for my own body. I'm scared of infections and it's expensive, so I don't even have pierced ears. That doesn't say anything about me other than that I'm a broke wimp. If you don't want to be in a relationship to the extent that you feel you may be looking for reasons to end it, that's worth thinking about more d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/19 08:11 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on the following marriage traditions.For the first question: my parents would find someone 'asking for my hand' hilarious. Anyone I would seriously considering marrying would know me and my family well enough to see that this would be socially inappropriate in our particular context. In some families, though, it would be the equivalent of taking off your shoes at the door or attending religious services with the parents - just a way of showing respect for tradition and indicating a willingness to step up and 'be a part of the famil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/19 06:16 AM |
| 1 | Do working class people not use dating apps?In the area where I'm in college, due to the overabundance of college students, dating app use skews (surprise!) college aged/college educated. Tinder/Bumble (especially Bumble) sunk their hooks into university populations and pushed hard to get young upper-middle-class types in. Right now the 'market' on dating apps looks very different in the northeast where I'm in school vs. at home in the south where I am now. People who used or were around users of Bumble/Tinder in college are more likely t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/19 01:06 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Average single women are usually not delusional about their "market value" (RMV), they have just decided that being single is better than what they can "afford" for a relationship.Came here to say this - I think between the two of you, this very effectively sums up 'what's going on'. Friction between the stories we tell or have told ourselves and each other to justify relationships, which used to be a different kind of deal than they currently are, and the different kind of 'deal' presented by relationships today. A lot of people are trying to figure out a new mythos to make sense of what they see, but paradigms aren't done shifting just yet and not all of the information… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/19 01:00 AM |
| 4 | What recent TV show (on Netflix or whatever) encapsulates some interesting PPD-relevant points/themes/ideas? (Please go into detail!)Take that back! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/19 02:44 AM |
| 3 | What recent TV show (on Netflix or whatever) encapsulates some interesting PPD-relevant points/themes/ideas? (Please go into detail!)It's a tongue-in-cheek but good faith attempt to actually address the question of what it would take to put men in the same position in which women currently find themselves. Blow for blow, it hits a lot of the points I've been trying to make lately about the difference between male and female experiences of objectification. We see the difference between the way the man who's just been introduced to a stereotypically female role feels when he's honked at on the street vs. how he feels/how it aff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 11:30 PM |
| 1 | What recent TV show (on Netflix or whatever) encapsulates some interesting PPD-relevant points/themes/ideas? (Please go into detail!)The taglines are 'change your perspective' and 'open your mind' - very PPDesque. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 11:24 PM |
| 5 | What recent TV show (on Netflix or whatever) encapsulates some interesting PPD-relevant points/themes/ideas? (Please go into detail!)I've never said anything clever or deep in my life and I resent the implications of that suggestion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 11:23 PM |
| 7 | What recent TV show (on Netflix or whatever) encapsulates some interesting PPD-relevant points/themes/ideas? (Please go into detail!)I mentioned this last night, but everyone here should watch 'I Am Not an Easy Man'. It's not a TV show, but it is excellent and the taglines are like... PPD platitudes, straight-up. (you can watch the English dub, I sure as hell did) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 09:31 PM |
| 4 | What are the best theories/explanations for male disposability?In my bioethics class, we talked pretty extensively about the legacy of medical research as something conducted for men, on men - because, usually, men aren't pregnant and don't get pregnant over a long period of testing some new drug or being studied for some musculoskeletal condition. There's a massive amount of research that's been done, at the time, 'on people', that in practice has turned out to be 'on men' as we've learned that, for example, musculoskeletal connectivity and tissue connecti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 04:54 PM |
| 3 | What are the best theories/explanations for male disposability?One could argue that the VA is, historically, a massive institution concerned predominantly with the care of men. It's not great at delivering, but neither are many women's resources. I see what you're going for: specific institutions exist for the safety/care of women. Some potential explanations: Women tend to forfeit some of their earning potential in the process of childbirth/childrearing; this puts them at a very real material disadvantage, and makes them a vulnerable 'class' in a way that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 04:30 PM |
| 3 | Maybe it's the MDMA talking but y'all aren't nearly as bad as you make each other out to beI hate that you chose this one because my dad always flipped it to 'your mama's rich and your papa's good-looking' and then he would chortle and ruin the rest of the song. He raised a weird-ass couple of kids but at least we know our music. Feelin the love tonight! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 06:03 AM |
| 6 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (30 December 2018)First time in a while I've been very single on NYE, but had a lovely time with friends and family and overall I think it's been a really good year. Exhausting, but good. Here's to an even better one incoming! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 05:53 AM |
| 2 | Maybe it's the MDMA talking but y'all aren't nearly as bad as you make each other out to beSure, I'll take that explanation: like most things I do, I did it to be overwhelmingly and obnoxiously self-righteous. Hope your NYE has been lovely, Salty, I'm feeling sappy and from all of our interactions you seem like a great fellow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 05:51 AM |
| 2 | Purge is time for seal videos!Ooh, that's a nice one! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 05:28 AM |
| 2 | Maybe it's the MDMA talking but y'all aren't nearly as bad as you make each other out to beYou are an important piece of the world. I hope you prosper in 2018. (it was a random one reddit offered me, but I'm fond of it myself - thanks!) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 05:23 AM |
| 4 | Maybe it's the MDMA talking but y'all aren't nearly as bad as you make each other out to beI'm so confident that many of the posters here are sincerely trying to understand a path to a better world. Happy New Year!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 05:20 AM |
| 1 | What do you imagine each ppd member looks like?Oryx looks like Birgitte Hjort Sørensen because we're shadow relatives, so she looks sort of like me but also different in key ways that keep us from being interchangeable. Atlas looks like Constance Zimmer, but on 'Unreal', not on 'House of Cards'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 04:12 AM |
| 2 | An Alternate Universe: thought experimentTHERE'S A MOVIE THAT DOES AN AMAZING JOB AT THIS. It's called 'I Am Not an Easy Man' and it's sincerely very thought-provoking and well done. It might still be on Netflix. Downside: have to watch it dubbed into English because I'll kill myself before I'll listen to anything in French for more than two minutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 10:57 PM |
| 2 | Purge is time for seal videos!Damn, one of my favorite Seals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 10:42 PM |
| 3 | HOT or NOT --- PPD editionThe job market is especially hard when I haven't even completed my loser certificate yet. :c | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 10:41 PM |
| 3 | HOT or NOT --- PPD editionFuck! Doxxed! I knew this would happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 10:23 PM |
| 23 | Women HATE beta's who improve themselvesShe sounds kind of mean. Maybe not every woman is the same as this one particular person who was a jerk to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 10:18 PM |
| 4 | HOT or NOT --- PPD editionThis is what I actually look like. I've posted pictures before but I'm glad to finally show you the real me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 10:08 PM |
| 3 | HOT or NOT --- PPD editionMy gators won't stand a chance! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 09:59 PM |
| 2 | HOT or NOT --- PPD editionDon't hate on a nice 2007 rav-4 okay the job market and the economy. :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 09:58 PM |
| 1 | All you women here will slam into the wall hard! Deal with it!Yeah we can all party I do a killer crab boil but BYOB. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 09:50 PM |
| 2 | All you women here will slam into the wall hard! Deal with it!I love company and so do my pet gators. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 09:36 PM |
| 2 | Doctors HATE this one simple trick! Buy antibiotics without a prescription if you buy "Fish antibiotics" and they're super cheap!You can grow your own penicillin if you're not cucked by the fish antibiotic industry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 09:29 PM |
| 10 | All you women here will slam into the wall hard! Deal with it!I've said this before but I am so excited to be a middle aged woman and never be looked at as a sexual creature by anyone other than my spouse ever again. It's going to be so fucking fun. I think my midlife crisis may involve making terrifying jewelry out of lacquered spider crab legs I collect myself. My retirement plan is to be a salt marsh hag and scare the local children. This is my dream. You are all invited to my dingy shack in a mouldering wetland! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 09:21 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: Is it okay for women to complain about objectification while turning a blind eye to the objectification of men?I gave only one example of the objectification of men (body objectification in competitions that prioritize form over function) but I certainly believe that men can be exploited for their physicality - just that this isn't Part Of Maleness, it's... part of being a gymnast, or part of stripping, or part of modeling. Objectification is an integral part of the experience of femaleness, in that the average woman probably has the same amount of body consciousness and obsessive self-watching as a man … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 08:06 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: Is it okay for women to complain about objectification while turning a blind eye to the objectification of men?I'm saying that words have meanings and 'objectification' doesn't stretch far enough to mean what you're arguing it means in the context that you're trying to make these analogies. 'Objectification' also describes the experience of male athletes like gymnasts and dancers whose art requires a certain 'aesthetic' and turns the self into an object-tool. It's like trying to say a frying pan and a baseball bat are the same thing. They fundamentally aren't the same thing. I still wouldn't want to be h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 07:40 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: Is it okay for women to complain about objectification while turning a blind eye to the objectification of men?If someone is deliberately exerting power over him based on those assumptions with the intention of doing him harm, of course that's bullying. That's the definition of bullying. It sounds like you're describing 'dehumanization' rather than 'objectification'. These are very different things: women talking about being objectified are talking about the panopticon of visibility, commentary, internalized commentary. Women who throw up or take laxatives to reduce bloating are doing this because they'v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 07:30 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: Is it okay for women to complain about objectification while turning a blind eye to the objectification of men?Cruel, deliberate harm can almost always be usefully called bullying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is it okay for women to complain about objectification while turning a blind eye to the objectification of men?Aw, stop it, you, you're going to make me blush. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 07:12 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: Is it okay for women to complain about objectification while turning a blind eye to the objectification of men?I am undeserving and will almost certainly do it again, but thank you <3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 06:08 AM |
| 6 | Q4W: Is it okay for women to complain about objectification while turning a blind eye to the objectification of men?Oops. I'm a scab who didn't scroll down first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 05:59 AM |
| 11 | Q4W: Is it okay for women to complain about objectification while turning a blind eye to the objectification of men?'Objectification' isn't the same thing as 'bullying'. Bullying is bullying: cruelty, deliberately, to exert power. If you said 'fuck off' to someone who didn't speak English, it wouldn't matter very much to them - not nearly as much as it would matter if you said 'fuck off' to someone who did speak English. This is the 'differing sociocultural context' people bring up when explaining why what we recognize as 'objectification' doesn't have the same impact on men that it does on women. 'Nice ass',… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 05:58 AM |
| 4 | About catcalling...I always bring up this story when someone talks about 'what catcalling is' - once I was on my way to meet up with some friends to see a movie, looking (I felt) pretty nice since we were getting dinner after and I had more time than usual to do my makeup, and a guy skateboarded past, slowed slightly, tipped his snapback, and said 'your hair is the color of corn!' in an oddly complimentary way. I said 'thank you, have a nice day!' after him, and he said 'you too, take care!' and I thought 'that wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 04:10 AM |
| 6 | How often do women leverage their sexuality for perks?I'm not certain the situation you're describing is applicable in the context of the question. The 'situation' the woman you're describing is exploiting isn't her female identity, it's the sociocultural norms that govern dating. You can't flutter your eyelashes at the man sitting alone drinking his coffee with a paper and reasonably expect him to toss you a hundred dollars for a meal. I mean, you can try, but that would come with a high likelihood of failure and a reasonable risk of public shamin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 01:25 AM |
| 9 | How often do women leverage their sexuality for perks?Maybe it's a generational thing. The idea of spending that much money on a meal is horrifying to me. I don't think your experiences are any more universal than mine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 12:40 AM |
| 13 | Why sluterry is bad in my opinionI don't see the value in unnecessary cruelty to people who aren't deliberately attempting to do harm. The consequences to being a jackass are being treated like a jackass. Recognizing that being a dick to women who sleep around is the same thing as being a dick to men who own leather jackets and motorcycles - in that it's still being a dick - is a good thing. 'Slut shaming' is just dressed-up 'being a dick'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/18 09:46 PM |
| 6 | How often do women leverage their sexuality for perks?I've only been pulled over once, and being pretty and female didn't mean I wasn't speeding. I've never gotten a free drink or a free meal out of being a woman. I think most of the things that people attribute to a leveraging of sex-identity or sexuality could also be procured by a man with a roughly equal level of success, women have just been taught to ask in a way that men haven't. If you ask someone for something, and they can give it to you/do it for you, sometimes they'll do it and sometime… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/18 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Dating Deal Breakers compare and contrast.I drive. Call it 'same city'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 11:58 PM |
| 5 | Dating Deal Breakers compare and contrast.No pill, blue leaning by this sub's standards, 21, white woman -unkind -doesn't like me -lives more than 15 minutes away -done growing as a person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 08:22 PM |
| 4 | Why don’t girls hang pictures of old rich powerful men in their rooms?I'm 21 and I have a framed antique picture of Teddy Roosevelt in my dorm room and no other wall decoration. My grandmother bought it to be patriotic when she first came to the United States and hung it in the classroom once she got her teaching certification, my dad brought it to college with him, it was hanging in our house until I took it to school with me. Up until I was ~12 I thought it was a picture of my grandfather who died before I was born. Oh, was I shocked when I hit 6th grade social … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 06:02 PM |
| 6 | Q4W: Do you find old, powerful men attractive?I want to adopt Mads Mikkelsen as my scary/zany grandfather. I can't honestly say that I've ever been into the idea of a much older guy, or even a slightly older guy. A big part of attraction for me is sharing a 'life stage' with someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 03:16 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: if you're one of the many on this sub for whom marriage is a must have deal breaker, is getting married and signing an ironclad cannot be thrown out prenup good enough?A prenup sounds sensible. If you can't maturely contemplate the end of a marriage mutually while you love each other, what hope do you have of contemplating it mutually once you've discovered a conflict or dire difference of opinion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 12:24 AM |
| 3 | What's up with your taste in men?One of my closest friends is utterly head over heels for Luka Modric. When asked why, she doesn't have a reason, she Just Likes Him. She's not especially into football, she's not Croatian, but during the world cup she just looked at him and decided 'that one. that one is my favorite.' and that was that. I have known men to be like this with women, at the same time - men who just adore Felicia Day or Summer Glau, not because they're sincerely, objectively, The Most Beautiful, but because they've … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 07:55 PM |
| 3 | What's up with your taste in men?Do you have oddball choices in men your friends/other girls wouldn't agree with? Yes, but my friends also make ridiculous (to me) choices in male partners, so I've learned to respect the 'glass houses' adage and leave it alone. Nearly every man I've dated has made someone in my friend group, either in hindsight (you dated him?) or the present (you're dating him??), look at me crosswise. Do you even know your choice is not typical until someone brings it up to you? I know I don't really have a ty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 06:13 AM |
| 1 | Should little to no reciprocity in physical touch (but not rejection) be taken as consent?It sounds like you've observed a response to your actions. So did OP. If she stiffens and does not 'warm up', you should stop. OP does not seem to think this is intuitive. It's my view that this should be common sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Should little to no reciprocity in physical touch (but not rejection) be taken as consent?According to him, he knew. I tried to game this woman who I thought was introvert and shy, she wasn't reciprocating my touches but neither rejecting them as well. I interpreted this as her being distant and needing to warm up. Later she told me she didn't like it at all. He's asking what to do next. I answered the question. When previously he was interpreting a woman as 'distant and need[ing] to warm up' to his touches, he should, instead of escalating the touches, stop touching her. More isn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Should little to no reciprocity in physical touch (but not rejection) be taken as consent?A lot of things people do are irrational or irresponsible. OP asked for advice as to how to deal with people, specifically women, in this position. Moral or not, many people aren't good at asking for what they need from a partner, and instead end up attempting to convey it nonverbally. OP has observed this and ignored it in the past. I suggest that, in realizing that a woman is uncomfortable (and identifying situations where she might be uncomfortable in the future) he now has the obligation to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 08:39 PM |
| 2 | Should little to no reciprocity in physical touch (but not rejection) be taken as consent?It's a combination of carrot and stick. A woman likes a guy. She wants him to like her. She wants him to have a good time and enjoy the date (social pressure to deliver a good experience). She wants him to be happy because she thinks he's a decent and pleasant guy who's seemed mindful of her feelings so far, and she wants to reciprocate. And... oh shit, he's got his hand on her hand. She doesn't like this, but she likes him, and she wants him to be happy and think she's Cool and Fun and Game and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 08:12 PM |
| 2 | Should little to no reciprocity in physical touch (but not rejection) be taken as consent?You've got the quote feature, use it if I ever said anything to that effect. In fact, I would argue I said something quite different. But please, go ahead and put words in my mouth, I won't say no but I will cold shoulder you a bit. :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 05:39 PM |
| 2 | Should little to no reciprocity in physical touch (but not rejection) be taken as consent?Work on the comprehension and you'll see that I haven't, or otherwise explain your concerns with my explanation. I think I'm quite clear on the fact that a woman who is on a date with you wants you to like her, with the corollary that she doesn't want you to dislike her, and she may be willing to endure unpleasant elements of interaction in the hope that you will someday explicitly like her enough to listen and react favorably when she explains her discomfort rather than with knee-jerk unpleasan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 05:34 PM |
| 3 | Should little to no reciprocity in physical touch (but not rejection) be taken as consent?It sounds like you didn't read my prior comments, then, if you thought that was what I was going for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Should little to no reciprocity in physical touch (but not rejection) be taken as consent?That's hard to do when you don't want to hurt someone's feelings. It's easy, on the other hand, not to touch someone who doesn't reciprocate the touch/explicitly seems distant and like she needs to warm up. If a woman were here asking 'how do I better avoid this kind of situation?' I would advise her to tell him more explicitly, practice with a friend, try to overcome her barriers to gently and appropriately saying 'sorry, I don't really like being touched', but this is a man, who is aware that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 04:55 PM |
| 7 | Should little to no reciprocity in physical touch (but not rejection) be taken as consent?I tried to game this woman who I thought was introvert and shy, she wasn't reciprocating my touches but neither rejecting them as well. I interpreted this as her being distant and needing to warm up. Later she told me she didn't like it at all. If she seems 'distant' and 'like she needs to warm up', to the extent that you can register these states by name, stop touching her. That's a pretty reasonable expectation of 'interpreting the context clues you've already picked up'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 04:51 PM |
| 6 | Should little to no reciprocity in physical touch (but not rejection) be taken as consent?I know this is a contentious issue for some people, but the kind of women who are pleasant on a date are the kind of women who don't want to hurt your feelings, especially if they sincerely like you. A woman who doesn't tell you when she doesn't like something is aggressively performing agreeability. She wants you to like her and be nice to her and enjoy the date more than she wants to like what is happening to her physical body. She likes you enough to do this several times. Maybe she overestim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 03:56 PM |
| 14 | Should little to no reciprocity in physical touch (but not rejection) be taken as consent?A simple answer: you like the man, not the behavior. Like, look at this guy's response And then you fucking have the nerve to say that I should've noticed you weren't into it? FUCK OFF. I think this is exactly what women are 'afraid' of. At first he touches my hand, and I think 'uh, don't love that,' but I do think he's telling a funny story and he seems interesting, so I don't flick his hand away, I tolerate it even though I'm not into it. He takes this as a sign to go for my hair, and now I th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 02:18 PM |
| 6 | Q4RP what do you think of "challenging" girlsThe number one way to rightfully exclude a guy who's going to be unpleasant every time you have a disagreement with him is to disagree and see what happens, and if 'what happens' is a pleasant and interesting difference of opinion appropriately-defended on both sides, both people involved have learned something very important about their compatibility. Some women (and men) just like to fight, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 05:41 AM |
| 3 | Woman tries to convince her husband to let her use a sperm donor because she wants her kids to be more attractiveInsanely severe Crohn's over here (with Ashkenazi heritage) facing the same dilemma. My family has no history of genetic diseases, and in fact tends to live 95+ in excellent health, but mine showed up and has kicked my ass six ways from Sunday. If I do procreate, some of that decision is going to involve the genes my partner is contributing and what that might mean for our child's health. I'd be proud to pass down every part of my family except for the intestinal hemorrhaging. I'm really not sur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 04:32 AM |
| 3 | Q4Women: If you chose to not hold out for a man who wasn't in the top 20% of SMV... why?If I like him I like him. I don't like many men to the extent that I'd want to date them. There's no reason to deny something good that might be a source of joy for us both over arbitrary standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/18 07:23 PM |
| 7 | Q4Women: Would you rather be a 21 year old who slept around between the ages of 16-20, or a 28 year old virgin?I'm 21 and still in the single digits when it comes to men - my birthday is in two weeks, so I gotta get on this fast. More genuinely: I think my approach to sex is the right one for me. If I was having a lot of casual sex, I think that would be very unhealthy for me. I also think that if I'd been shut in a tower/mentally shut in a tower since I was 18 and stuck to it for another seven years, that would be very unhealthy for me. Health doesn't usually look like either extreme, but it's not my jo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/18 05:37 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: What legal and social privileges do you think women should have that men shouldn't?People should have the right to deal with their own bodies as they choose, and if someone chooses to have a child that someone else doesn't want, that decision should be part of any conversation about child support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 09:13 PM |
| 3 | Off Topic Thread: Merry Christmas (24 December 2018)I made the traditional bacon wrapped scallops for my dad tonight - he's the only one who likes them (I don't like the big fleshy kind, I like the cute little patagonia scallops and I think I cook them very well, but noooooo, tradition) but he's also the only one who's been mitzvah'd and he still has to go to church now that my maternal grandma lives with us so he likes to sin as much as possible on Christmas, hence the most sinful of un-kosher combinations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 01:27 AM |
| 15 | Q4W: What legal and social privileges do you think women should have that men shouldn't?It's my opinion that a just society should afford human people the same rights and privileges as other human people. 'The right to continued life/health' is an important one, for instance, but most women will likely never need a prostate exam and most men will likely never give birth. Most men won't face death by cervical cancer and most women won't face death by testicular cancer. Parents should receive the same amount of paid leave following the birth of their children. Divorce and custody law… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 12:49 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Is your S.O physically unnatractive?I've dated/been attracted to people who were, by conventional standards, kind of iffy looking. I was attracted to who they were, and part of loving them was loving the way they looked - she had long, beautiful eyelashes and these gorgeous, plush lips (and she was meticulous about lip scrubs, so they were always soft), or the way the sunlight slanted into his eyes reminded me of honey and he had such a strong jaw and lovely clear skin and always smelled nice. Which is to say: when I love someone … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 11:14 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (23 December 2018)My dad is making a roast for tonight, my little brother and I just put up and decorated a tree, his dog is wearing a sweater and hates it (it's 70 degrees outside), the sun hasn't set, and we're about to make the annual pilgrimage to my grandma's church to pretend that my mom married a good christian man and has a good christian family. Merry Christmas! To those who don't celebrate the holiday, happy anniversary of the year my dad got me a pair of stilts for Christmas in the hopes that I would j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 09:17 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Do you feel you have "life on easy mode" and "everything is handed to you" because of your gender as the manosphere claims?Some people tend to make negative assumptions about, specifically, pretty young women. Not all, but enough to be noticeable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 07:12 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: What is a good reason why men should get married in today's times?Some good reasons for a man to get married are: if you love and trust someone and want state/institutional recognition of that partnership, if your family honors a marriage over an informal commitment, or just generally if you like the idea of being married to your partner and think it might give you peace and comfort. Divorce is set up 'against' whichever partner makes/has accumulated more income. A family friend whose husband made much less than she did was absolutely hung out to dry when he d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 07:08 PM |
| 13 | Q4W: Do you feel you have "life on easy mode" and "everything is handed to you" because of your gender as the manosphere claims?My grandfather on my father's side used to tell his three daughters (my dad comes from a huge family): when you walk into a room as a pretty woman, you get five minutes of attention from anyone you want, an employer, a partner, a potential friend. But that 'five minutes' is a double-edged sword if you aren't offering something other than a pretty face. So do your fucking math homework. In my experience: people remember a pretty woman. They remember if she does something stupid and worth mocking;… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 03:08 AM |
| 2 | What's so special about marriageYou worked with what I provided, which was an explanation of both the methods of state control and familial pressure that make marriage a favorable state, as well as my own sense of comfort at the thought of marriage, and you came up with some poorly-argued bias-confirmation for your own beliefs about women. When provided with other examples of someone liking the idea of a [state] without inherently dehumanizing all other parties potentially involved in [state], you acted like a child and stompe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/18 05:40 PM |
| 2 | What's so special about marriageThe idea of [x] gives me comfort. (a supportive father figure, a friend I can enjoy the movies with, a partner I love enough to call my spouse) ... Therefore I consider all of these things accessories rather than human people. Going to the movies is my only goal. Having a loving father is my only goal. Having a spouse is my only goal. That doesn't logically follow. We call that 'poor argumentation', or more charitably, 'a reach'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/18 03:53 AM |
| 41 | Attraction and mentally ill womanPreferences for easily manipulated women, vulnerable women, women who will eagerly 'give you everything they have' (not a healthy partnered behavior), and women who may share 'atypical' interests or lifestyles means that RP men may gravitate towards the sort of women who exhibit these traits. Many mentally ill women possess traits that RP men might be particularly predisposed to consider desirable in a partner in addition to those they might consider undesirable, and if they value, say, immediat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/18 02:18 AM |
| 2 | What's so special about marriageI like the idea of going to the movies with someone more than I like the idea of going to the movies alone. Don't hurt your back reaching. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/18 01:57 AM |
| 7 | e-girlsIt reminds me a little more of 'idol' culture than of strip clubs/porn, because it's specifically the egirl/eboy as a Sexy Person rather than an isolated Sexy Experience. Like, someone might have a 'favorite' stripper, but that's not most people who go to strip clubs, since I understand for most it's an environment where they feel powerful/masculine or more a way to scratch an itch. But with idol culture, you get men and women positively fawning over the idea of a (usually, sexy) person who is d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/18 09:28 PM |
| 10 | What's so special about marriageIf I had a child with/cohabitated with someone without marrying them I think my grandmother might have an aneurysm. 'Legitimacy' matters within some people's families and in a broader sense, in the eyes of the state and other institutions that can exercise control over a person's movements/options based on family affiliation (hospitals, insurance agencies, employers, the like). I also just like the idea of being married to someone. The thought gives me comfort, though not for any especially good… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/18 09:17 AM |
| 5 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (16 December 2018)Good evening everyone I'm Finally Fucking Done With Finals, I'm in the airport, my flight is delayed (x3, now), and I'm single! If I drank, I'd be drinking! How's everyone else's Thursday night? (in less pathetic news, there's a candy shop and I bought a shitton of my little brother's favorite candy, he's going to lose his goddamned MIND once I make it out of this hell-dimension of disappointing texts from Jetblue) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/18 02:05 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: If you found the perfect guy for you, but he didn't want to get married, would you stay with him?Any time. I respect that other people here have dealbreakers, but I can also sympathize with plenty of reasons someone might be super opposed to marriage. It really depends. I'd want to talk about it - obviously it never feels great when someone's like 'I don't want to do [thing you want to do] with you, ever' - but people make compromises all the time because they love someone. Might as well assume best intentions in my soulmate and least talk it over with an open mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/18 01:09 AM |
| 1 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"You should read through the exchange again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 11:42 PM |
| 13 | Q4W: If you found the perfect guy for you, but he didn't want to get married, would you stay with him?I'd prefer to get married. I have a severe chronic illness and if I wind up dead I wouldn't want my partner to be doubly fucked over by the legal system's lack of respect for unmarried partnership. I think that's a pretty good reason to get married - I would want him, and my children, to have full access to my resources, my bedside in the hospital, and anything else they can get. I dunno, my partners have always been the marriagey type, I'm not sure how well I'd get on with someone vehemently an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 11:34 PM |
| 1 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"The "lobster guy" was also wrong. He made a big claim (this graph is based on data that the graph does not cite) and was unwilling to back it up. That graph is fully, and poorly, fabricated. I didn't TA a biostatistics class not to tell people when a graph is shit. I hear if you have the new Red Dead Redemption you can punch a suffragette in it, and based on the level you're functioning, that might make you feel better about having cited and defended a shit graph for no apparent reason other tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 11:23 PM |
| 10 | Are you really "alpha" if you have to approach women ?That's a shame. It's female nature to seek out the best possible kidneys. Guess I gotta branch swing and murder someone else now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 04:35 PM |
| 10 | Are you really "alpha" if you have to approach women ?Hey, storffish, what's your blood type? Just curious. Also, do you have any family history of renal disease? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 04:27 PM |
| 2 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"I didn't come into your house and force you to make unsubstantiated claims peppered with garbage evidence. I don't think you should vote if you can't tell whether or not a graph has a legitimate source attribution and can't discern the difference between 'a barely-d-list celebrity's vapid youtube video' and 'a credible source with which to draw sweeping sociocultural generalizations'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 02:06 PM |
| 4 | [Q4W] How much do looks and "personality" matter relative to each other?There you go again! See, here personality seems to matter quite a bit, doesn't it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 05:15 AM |
| 3 | [Q4W] How much do looks and "personality" matter relative to each other?You seem to have 'baselessly telling other people what they should and shouldn't do' down to a science, so I appreciate the opportunity to learn from the best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 05:12 AM |
| 7 | [Q4W] How much do looks and "personality" matter relative to each other?Then maybe you shouldn't ask questions about subjective topics with subjective and personal answers since you find the ensuing discussion so confusing to process. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 05:00 AM |
| 7 | [Q4W] How much do looks and "personality" matter relative to each other?it's just women yammering about whatever they feel. You're not trying to understand where women are coming from, either, if you dismiss them so eagerly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 04:49 AM |
| 6 | [Q4W] How much do looks and "personality" matter relative to each other?If you think women are 'incapable of giving a straight answer', wait until you hear about men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 04:22 AM |
| 3 | [Q4W] How much do looks and "personality" matter relative to each other?This is one of those questions that depends a lot on the person. I have different preferences, and a different relative 'looks threshold', than Atlas or Goat or Oryx, without question. The second you start accounting for personality in a partner, you have to consider the personality of whoever you regard at the 'selecting' partner, which isn't always the woman. I've certainly been rejected by men and women who (perhaps I'm massively understating the role of my own attractiveness or lack thereof,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 03:09 AM |
| 1 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"It doesn't, actually. Unless there's a study called "[year] survey" now, this information is unverifiable and distributing it is irresponsible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 12:10 AM |
| 2 | Off Topic Thread: What would be your dream job? (15 December 2018)Ah! Another ex-gymnast. That sounds really amazing. The USAG bullshit absolutely ruined a lot of it for me, but I look back really fondly on so much of it. A good coach makes all the difference in the world, too. I'm sure you'd do a fantastic job of cleaning up the culture, in some other universe. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 09:33 PM |
| 5 | "Looks dont matter, stop caring!"Looks matter, to a point. If a house is unattractive enough, I'm not even going to want to see the inside, let alone consider purchasing it. But at the same time, if it's a great house, 'not intolerably unattractive to me' can be enough window dressing to walk inside and fall in love. With the house. I'm not trying to draw a comparison between people and objects, here, I just think this is a good way to describe the 'threshold' necessary for a successful start to a relationship. Often the 'thres… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Schopenhauer's "On Women"I fucking love ospreys. There's a nest in a rotted-out old pine tree near where I live, and the same breeding pair has been using it since I was a little kid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 08:20 PM |
| 1 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!""This graph could, in theory, have been sourced from [source that the graph doesn't cite]" is not the mic-drop argument you seem to think it is. Big claims require big evidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 08:06 PM |
| 1 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"There is some data, somewhere, that may or may not be the data this graph is citing. We won't know until you make a graph. You've said the same thing over and over again without it being right or useful. Conversations proceed when someone who claims mastery over data puts their money where their mouth is and makes a graph or otherwise stops defending a jpeg-artifacted piece of shit graph from god knows where as though it came, unquestionably, from the mouth of god, because someone who doesn't kn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 07:47 PM |
| 1 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"If you're into marketing you might consider paying attention to the arguments you're trying to sell. I am insufferable, but I'm also right: this graph is useless, the post you're defending is inaccurate and poorly supported, and if you want to convince anyone of anything, you can download R and get started with that .dat file since you have so much time on your hands! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 07:41 PM |
| 2 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"I did not make any claims about marital satisfaction. ... This is effectively wrong, because women practice a AF/BB mating strategy. In fact, we can see in marriages where a woman was promiscuous prior to the marriage, she experiences LOWER satisfaction in it. If the data's there, you should have no problem reproducing it in your own graph, or otherwise finding evidence other than a demonstrably poorly-sourced graph. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 07:31 PM |
| 4 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"The problem with that is that the graph clearly cites 2006/2008 NSFG data (the raw data you're citing is 2006-2010), so... why wouldn't they cite the data they were using? Are they just bad at making graphs? Or, more likely, based on a cursory analysis of the data you believe they may have cited (which they don't at any point claim to cite) these statistics are falsified to prove a point. A point which is, coincidentally, not the point you claim they make - 'she experiences lower satisfaction in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 07:10 PM |
| 3 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"If you understand it so well, make your own graph. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 06:56 PM |
| 8 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"I have at least slightly more of a clue what I'm saying than you seem to. Cite a legitimate source rather than defending a graph that might as well have been made in MS paint by a bored middle schooler for all it reflects the results of the survey it claims to cite and we'll have a grown up discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 06:47 PM |
| 2 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"The "authors of that graph", based on the source they attributed on that graph, and the inaccurate depictions of the 'raw data' responses within that graph, would disagree with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 06:45 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (16 December 2018)I love Copenhagen! Tell the Ny Carlsberg Glyptotek I say hi! The friend I visited with was militant about our itinerary (love her) but I ended up really appreciating it because we got to a shitton of museums, though I wish we could have spent a full day at Kronborg Castle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 04:46 PM |
| 0 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"This graph is also fake. The general trend I'm following is that your best support for your arguments is fake graphs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 03:15 PM |
| 7 | Schopenhauer's "On Women"I'm writing a final essay for a philosophy class right now (in theory, fuck distribution requirements) and Schopenhauer, despite much more explicitly abhorrent beliefs about eugenics/pedophilia, is understood as a massive influence on western philosophy from Wittgenstein to Nietzsche, who doesn't necessarily need to be read deeply, but does need to be acknowledged for his impact on philosophy and art. Edit: and yes, the school I go to is The bastion of liberal silliness and I love it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 02:59 PM |
| 46 | Schopenhauer's "On Women"The nobler and more perfect a thing is, the later and slower is it in reaching maturity. I defer to the noble Galapagos tortoise on all matters of finance and good taste precisely for this reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 02:51 PM |
| 20 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"My robust counter argument is 'you don't have a fact-based argument in the first place'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 01:55 PM |
| 10 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 01:55 PM |
| 38 | "If You Don't Marry A Past Slut, Then You'll End Up In A Sexless Marriage!"The studies this graph purports to cite don't say what the graph says. This is a misrepresentation of data at best. The data don't record partner count over 15 (binned as 15+) while the variable allegedly depicted in the graph. 'Failure rate at first marriage' is not recorded in this study, only present marital/partnered status. If you're going to cite a fake figure, at least make it yourself. R is free. Not that the 'tate PhD program youtube channel' and 'one post I saw on reddit' aren't also e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 08:51 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: How do you feel about TRP reducing women down to math problems?OP is the person you want to disagree with, not me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 04:53 AM |
| 1 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaYes, while benching you even. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 04:53 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (16 December 2018)What do y'all bench though I'm trying to break past body weight but I've been plateaued for a while because my body is fragile and my bones are made of glass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 04:40 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (16 December 2018)I'm devolving into absurdism and I'm not sure if I can blame finals stress/being sad about leaving my boyfriend tomorrow or just PPD PPDing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 04:39 AM |
| 1 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaYou could weigh 400 pounds and I would still bench you, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 04:37 AM |
| 2 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaHard to arm wrestle while I'm benching you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 04:30 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: How do you feel about TRP reducing women down to math problems?Let me know when you balance those equations, my mom is impossible to shop for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 03:18 AM |
| 29 | Q4W: How do you feel about TRP reducing women down to math problems?It's a bit silly. Everyone's a complex math problem - imagine if I walked into a room full of mathematicians and declared 'Literally all you need to know for any geometry problem is the pythagorean theorem. Give up, you dumb fucks, you're overcomplicating it." They would probably be both a little confused and a little upset. Then I produce a problem - how to find the area of an irregular shape with minimal information? There's enough information for me to use the pythagorean theorem to solve it,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaI'm pretty gay too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 12:31 AM |
| 2 | How will you raise your children with redpill theory in mind?The lesson my dad taught both me and my brother for which I'm most regularly grateful is: what's your evidence? I'd come home sobbing because I thought my teacher hated me because she raised her voice at me for speaking out of turn, hoping to be comforted, as little kids usually do. "Well, what's your evidence that she doesn't like you personally?" "She yelled!" "What does that prove?" "She was... upset?" "Does being upset at someone mean you hate them?" "No..." "Then the conclusion you're drawi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 10:54 PM |
| 7 | What do you think of Rihanna’s tweet regarding menNever underestimate a [person who wants something from you, whether forgiveness, a service, or material support]'s ability to [justify any action necessary to procure what they believe is necessary, potentially by amoral or deceptive means]. Not a gendered thing. I don't say this often, but: Rihanna and your dad are both wrong, and also both right. This is a human thing, not a man thing or a woman thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 10:09 PM |
| 10 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.This is not a woman-specific observation, this is a 'people' thing applied very selectively. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 06:49 AM |
| 6 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaI will bench you if you try to hug me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 06:16 AM |
| 2 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaI'm already swole and I'm only going to get swoler. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women - What is your stance on high n-count men?That's a very different ball game than 'high/low n count'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 06:01 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women - What is your stance on high n-count men?With utmost respect, you've given me no reason to love you, so I'm not sure I can make a ruling on this hypothetical. My boyfriend is still friends with his literal only ex, and I'm fine with that. I love him, it has no bearing on my love for him. But I don't really know you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 05:30 AM |
| 2 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaI don't get your taste, Salty, but I respect it.Mads Mikkelsen does sinister well-dressed ambiguously foreign antagonist much more effectively, in my humble opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 05:21 AM |
| 2 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaIf I say I do, will you join my Bilzerian-style harem? Right now Rambo is the only one in it and he gets lonely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 05:12 AM |
| 4 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaYou know what? You're so right, I change my answer to this one. Rambo is here for a flesh-sizzling good time, not a long time, and I respect that about him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 05:08 AM |
| 2 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaBilzerian and I are the same height. Not inherently a 'no', but the beard makes it a hard pass. At that volume of beard, I stop trusting its hygiene. Where's my boyfriend Rambo when I need him? Rambo would never run off with a bunch of random girls on a yacht. :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 05:07 AM |
| 2 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaWho's the ideal RP Chad? I think you might find more mixed results than you expect, unless you've got a really spectacular Chad up your sleeve. Edit: also Bram Stoker's Dracula is objectively not hot imo, so this would have been tilted towards Rambo even if I wasn't an 80s action aficionado. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 04:57 AM |
| 2 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaHe's fragile and I can fix him. Also my platonic ideal of a relationship is Co Bau and Rambo in part II: we go hiking and bow hunting together, I die horribly, he avenges me by blowing up a military base. Please don't kinkshame this is just female nature. :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 04:56 AM |
| 4 | Q4Women - What is your stance on high n-count men?There's a million reasons a person can act the way they do. Assuming, for the purposes of the thought experiment, all other things the same: my feelings wouldn't change based on something ridiculous like n-count. Lying is an issue, sleeping around (or not sleeping around at all) categorically isn't as long as we like each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 04:53 AM |
| 4 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaI'm telling my boyfriend Rambo you guys are being mean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 04:51 AM |
| 3 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaGenerous to Dracula? Damn, he's got you in his thrall already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 04:39 AM |
| 3 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaBold of you to assume I don't have every intention of making the overthrow of corrupt local governments and/or private prisons our weekly date night. I gotta be out there mate-guarding obviously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 04:37 AM |
| 5 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaYou're just mad because my future boyfriend Rambo is going to help me get into lifting and I'm going to be swole as fuck. I'm going to be bench pressing alligators while the fools in here develop anemia living with an overgrown deer tick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 04:33 AM |
| 6 | Who's sexier to women: Rambo or DraculaRambo, I relate to his disillusionment with the military-industrialist complex and I like that we'd be able to support each other and stay together when I inevitably go off the grid and disappear into the Okefenokee swamp. Also I like that we could share black tank tops probably. He looks like he wears my size even though he could probably go a few up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 04:28 AM |
| 2 | Validation Withdrawals?Dude, if you like her, you should ask her out! I've been giving this gd advice since elementary school and no one ever listens to me. Don't suffer in silence, give it a try, if it sucks, it sucks, and you learned something!! Go for it man!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 04:06 AM |
| 3 | Q4Women - What is your stance on high n-count men?I give a lot of fucks about how long it takes to go see someone I like, very few fucks about what their sex life looked like before we got together. My current boyfriend has one past girlfriend and has never had sex outside of a relationship. I love him, and I'd still love him if he texted me right now and said 'hey Civil, sorry to spring this on you, but I've actually slept around a lot more than I've told you. Like 200-count more.' I love him. That's immutable at this point, though we're gonna… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 03:05 AM |
| 3 | Q4Women - What is your stance on high n-count men?Yeah, between those parallel extremes, assuming I actually like the guy, the one who lives a block closer wins out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 02:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What are your views on "woke" men?You got me: I'm dating Matt McGorry. I saw him in Orange is the New Black and just had to get a piece of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?That smile on your face when you know someone is a ideologue of the women can do no wrong train of thought and they can't even hide it anymore. Are you no longer smiling? If you want to look into the history of the criminalization of drug use in the US and elsewhere, it's a much more fascinating series of events than you're making it out to be. Reading is fun, though again, you haven't seemingly read anything else I've said, or that you've said, so it feels a little like this conversation is cir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 10:44 PM |
| 7 | Q4Women - What is your stance on high n-count men?Neutral I'd have no preference, all other factors being the same. Honestly 'how far away do they live?' rates much higher in factors that actually influence who I would and would not date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 10:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?Obligatory 'slavery was legal'. We have very different views on morality, and mine has nothing to do with gender, for all you've tried to suggest it does over the course of this conversation. People who've hurt themselves and others in carelessness can learn, heal, and help rather than doing further harm. People who choose deliberately, to do harm have a much more difficult road to healing. It can be difficult to tell the difference, and unless you consider yourself an omniscient moral arbiter, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 09:59 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?Then this is where we disagree: it's my view that people who take deliberate action with the intention of or cognizance of the risk of harming others have done something evil. No one else has. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?Is drinking wine inherently immoral? How about a roller coaster? Prescription drugs, when medically necessary and licitly prescribed? You're painting yourself into a corner here by assigning inherent moral value to the consumption of a substance. A person could commit suicide by drinking too much water. Seems like you may be painting with a broader brush than you realize. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?I would have, seizing on the floor and begging for someone to kill me. Withdrawal is the worst feeling you can imagine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?I spent a year in rehab for fentanyl addiction when I was fifteen. Your feelings about what 'those women' think are not very relevant to my views. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?People do things because of reasons. They're hungry, they're hurting, they're lonely, they're excited about something, they trust someone. In past examples, the hypothetical woman has been an addict; this gives us a clear reasons for why she's doing what she's doing. She fears withdrawal, and her fear makes her vulnerable to exploitation. The circumstances that led her to abuse drugs in the first place likely have other influences on her behavior. "Is (totally ambiguous random person) evil for (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?I don't know them personally. Neither of us is qualified to make that judgement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 07:51 PM |
| 6 | women should return to their natural lifestyle as mother and wifeI actually think women should be collectively released into the warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico to live and frolic peacefully in their natural environment, captivity isn't good for them and introduces all kind of health issues. They need, at very least, large tanks in which to swim around, as women living outside of captivity can swim as much as 450 kilometers in a week, traveling with pods of other women, each of which has a distinct whistling song. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?You're bringing gender into this in a really weird way. Do you see how this response, on my part, was not gendered? They aren't inherently bad people, while someone who would, deliberately, exploit them in their helplessness, is an inherently bad person. Drug addicts are in a position of vulnerability. Prostituted women - or men, or whatever the fuck - are in a position of vulnerability. Schrodinger's trafficking/coercion/violence/CSA victim. They're not doing anything evil by trying to survive.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?They aren't inherently bad people, while someone who would, deliberately, exploit them in their helplessness, is an inherently bad person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?It sounds like you don't understand how drugs work. Drugs don't 'excuse' your actions because they make you 'crazy' and do 'abhorrent' things: if you are addicted to drugs, and you don't get more drugs, you suffer horribly. You seize and sweat and sometimes die. Women who prostitute themselves because of their addictions are doing it to stave off withdrawal, or because someone has figured out how to manipulate them into service using their fear of withdrawal, which is a real and present fear, co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?Drugs don't make you need pussy, they make you need more drugs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?"I don't like my assumptions of this woman's choices" isn't an excuse I find acceptable for "so it's okay if, perhaps, the sex I am having with her is under the threat of violence." You and I clearly have different opinions of drug addiction as well. I don't think any of the actions that I'm describing make a person irredeemable, except for purposefully exploiting another person for their perceived and statistically likely helplessness. I will not date a man who considers 'maybe she's being coer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?I'm actually attributing far more accountability to sex-buyers, here, who, per the article you don't seem willing to read, "Two-thirds of a group of 100 US sex buyers opined that a majority are lured, tricked or trafficked into prostitution. Many of the men understood the economic coercion and the lack of alternatives in women’s entry into prostitution." I think that doing something for personal gratification when you know it's exploitative or potentially under highly coercive circumstances/the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?Where did I make that claim? Purchasing sex is too-likely exploitative to be done in good conscience, in my opinion, which is what I've said quite consistently. But those 12-14 year olds, or a young person struggling to pay their bills and turning to sex work, are not 'unacceptable' or 'beyond understanding', they're being exploited. As I've been saying, I think the high level of coercion and exploitation in the industry is a great reason to exclude a potential partner based on their having visi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?Boyer and colleagues (1993) interviewed 60 women prostituting in escort, street, strip club, phone sex, and massage brothels in Seattle, Washington. All of them began prostituting between the ages of 12 and 14. Per the article. It's worth a read. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 06:05 PM |
| 4 | Q4Women: What are your views on "woke" men?Alas, my boyfriend is the wokest man in the world. He's much woker than I am. I loathe using the word 'woke' in this capacity but the motherfucker has a massive social media following for being So Very Woke. I love him so much. I appreciate him a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?I have a data-informed view of prostitution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?I'm Swedish-American. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 04:36 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: Would you rather date a man who has hired hookers/escorts/prostitutes, or a man who has had one night stands?A potential partner would need to share my view that sex work for survival is acceptable and understandable, but purchasing sex has too high a risk of exploitation to reasonably pursue. I don't want to date someone who's willing to gamble on whether they're violating someone who's been coerced or threatened into sleeping with them. That represents a willingness to take risks with other people's lives, health, and safety that I don't want in a partner. I don't think men who've paid for sex should… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 06:56 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (16 December 2018)I thought Durarara!! was goddamned fine art as a 13 year old and I still do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 03:16 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (16 December 2018)Spinach and mushroom lasagna sounds sooo good right now. I've been making increasingly rich meals as it gets colder and colder up here, my lizard brain is telling me to make a snow cave and hibernate. Very excited to work in warmer climes during break. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 12:58 AM |
| 2 | Can everyone take a chill pill and just let people live their life?I like my flair too much to change it to 'chill pilled' but I've been considering it for a while. I'm just here to read the sources and repeat the actual results. I'm in a very 'die alone' mood this finals season, though, and always down for a good fight! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (09 December 2018)On my own! I think it turned out pretty well - I was aiming more rose gold than pink, since I don't bleach my hair and don't want to destroy it, and it's actually pretty subtle and nice-looking. I cut my own hair as well, I can't fathom paying through the nose for something I can do with a pair of kitchen scissors and a can-do attitude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 06:26 PM |
| 3 | Off Topic Thread: What would be your dream job? (15 December 2018)When I go home for the winter, I'm going to be working for an environmental engineer who's trying to develop a biofilter to break down a certain kind of environmental neurotoxin produced by harmful algal blooms. Fifty percent of my time rolling around in filth in the field, fifty percent of it doing experimental work back in the lab. I like antibiotic research, but I love field work, and a lot of my microbio background is in algae/phytopigments/enviro toxicology. So what I'll do long term/how I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 06:23 PM |
| 6 | How would BP respond to these images of CDC divorce data?Here's the problem with the graphs: they do not represent the data found in the purported 'source'. The CDC/NCHS 1995 data from the 1995 National Survey on Family Growth, tellingly, doesn't collect data past '10 or more' lifetime sexual partners (there's no evidence for the '21+' category included on the graphs, let alone literally anything over 10+), and doesn't collect 'happiness' survey data except in the case of pregnancy (the overwhelming majority of the report is dedicated to... you guess … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 04:03 PM |
| 13 | Q4All: Should there be stricter and more gender neutral dresscodes in the workplace?I've worked in a synthesis lab that explicitly prohibited makeup, it was more-or-less mandatory to wear full-coverage clothing (pants, long socks, closed-toe shoes, no heels, full sleeves) because otherwise it was uncomfortable to wear the other protective gear and because otherwise you could easily burn your skin off messing with strong acids. No makeup/cologne meant no weird smears on the equipment/weird smells that might freak someone out, like, oh my god, citrusy smell... did I make nonanol … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 03:45 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (09 December 2018)Dyeing my hair pink tonight since I hate how it always starts to look yellowy at the roots during the winter. Please direct all inquiries for 'raging feminist(s) with unnaturally colored hair' in my direction for the next two months or so, thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 12:34 AM |
| 28 | Do women really wear revealing clothes to ''feel good about themselves''?Agree. There's a balance of 'want to feel desirable/attractive' and 'don't want to feel excluded/abnormal/outgroup'. Carrot and stick at work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/18 08:57 PM |
| 3 | Are there alpha and beta women?Fair warning, I have no piercings of any kind, so it would be in my best interests to set 'as you are' rules. But if you want a jar opened or an earring ripped out or your oil changed, all you have to do is ask. It is my duty as alpha woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/18 02:08 AM |
| 5 | Are there alpha and beta women?Meet me at the TGI Fridays in Times Square, it's my favorite place to brawl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/18 01:41 AM |
| 2 | Are there alpha and beta women?Nagaina was the last alpha woman actually! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/18 01:41 AM |
| 2 | Are there alpha and beta women?It's like Rudyard Kipling and I always say: "There is neither Evil nor Good in life./Except as the needs of the State ordain." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/18 01:14 AM |
| 7 | Are there alpha and beta women?I maintain that I am actually discouraging violence by enforcing the rule of law as the alpha woman. With great power comes great responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/18 12:27 AM |
| 19 | Are there alpha and beta women?There's only one alpha woman and it's me. If anyone else wants to be the alpha woman they can fight me for the position but it's bare-knuckle and I get to pick the location. Mods, this is a serious and good-faith position in response to this question and I am prepared to defend it academically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/18 12:10 AM |
| 1 | "Toxic masculinity" is created and rewarded by women. It's more appropriate to call it "toxic femininity"You were misrepresenting the content of the links you cited as evidence. This is poor practice, and when your 'evidence' is more accurately described as 'wishful thinking based on preexisting biases, attempted to pass off as the conclusions of studies that did not conclude these things', that does usually mean that your argument is invalid. Unironically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/18 07:40 PM |
| 2 | "Toxic masculinity" is created and rewarded by women. It's more appropriate to call it "toxic femininity""exploitative traits may be associated with bullying and sexual partners across adolescence" != "women reward bullies with more sex" "men, but not women, perceived a responsive stranger as more gender-typical (masculine/feminine), and in turn, as more attractive. Study 3 revealed that responsiveness increased men's perception of partner’s femininity." != "women hate actual nice guys with good personalities" "In either case, we are not asserting that female respondents who rated the DT character … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/18 05:52 PM |
| 4 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (09 December 2018)Oh my god. When I was a child, my dad would play the Paul Robeson version of 'Song of the Plains' over and over again for me, singing along with it, until I could phonetically sing the Russian part, though he'd only do this when my mom wasn't home. I have vague memories of this/can still sing it, and eventually I was like "papa, why did you choose that particular song, was it just your favorite?" "Yeah, not really, it's a fun song, but I was just hoping you'd sing it out of the house and the nic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/18 03:59 PM |
| 15 | Why do so many women not want kids?Well, you're legally allowed to say words in whatever order you want, but you won't make much of a point that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/18 06:13 AM |
| 22 | Why do so many women not want kids?Surely Henrik Kleven, Camille Landais and Jakob Egholt Sogaard, three of the numerous researchers cited in the article you didn't read, aren't all just sad lonely feminists? Or is that a phrase that means 'people who draw conclusions you don't like based on evidence you'd prefer to ignore'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/18 06:10 AM |
| 18 | Why do so many women not want kids?I mean peer-reviewed studies and reliable news sources collecting and sharing the data produced by these studies, actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/18 05:54 AM |
| 32 | Why do so many women not want kids?- kids are expensive (especially education/medical care) and many economies are extremely uncertain right now - marriage rates are decreasing/people are marrying later, increasing 'risk' for pregnancies - medical services, including birth services, are wildly and increasingly pricey - many people cite childbirth/childrearing as the reason that women are paid less than men/less valuable employees - anxiety over the future of the world, with escalating natural disasters/fears of climate change, po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/18 03:54 AM |
| 1 | What are your dating preferences, and where do they come from?I prefer people who get my jokes and make jokes that I get, who have strong opinions about politics and ethics and the media that they consume, who are good writers and conversationalists, and who are kind because they want to be kind. My current boyfriend also happens to alarmingly resemble my father, but that's just a coincidence (or is it, Freud, you drugged-up dead fuck?) as there are few patterns physically/appearance-wise in the people I've dated. My first boyfriend was a tall (6'5''), ski… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 09:19 PM |
| 3 | Why do we automatically assume lying or truth in cases of sexual assualt?I think that a lot of what's going on with the sexual assault conversation right now is growing pains with what used to be a highly personal/private situation (and on a lot of levels, still is) and the growing 'broad scale' importance and implications of sexual assault becoming something that we talk about publicly, that affects people beyond their personal lives or, rarely, their judicial/legal proceedings. We're used to 'personal' language in sexual assault conversations: my friend 'believes' … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 07:29 PM |
| 6 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (09 December 2018)For $50 I'll come to your house and press the block button for you so you don't have to admit defeat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 06:38 PM |
| 1 | At my job women break more rules than men and I think thats true everywhere. I work in HR and i adminster open workspace offices and conventional cubicle floorplans. Open floor plans have been a nightmare. Every blank stare or quick glance is a complaint and subtle accusation. In our cubicle officesThat sounds unpleasant. I'm lucky to work in spaces where my male and female coworkers are equally decent, capable, helpful, and professional. My first job was utterly awful and I thought I'd never be able to work with men after that experience, but good people have changed my mind and challenged my biases. Some workplaces are just shit. Hope you can get out of there and to something better soon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What do you make of cultural differences between how women behave towards men?Depends - she's Old Country Lutheran, 'no eye contact outside of marriage'. A sweeter woman has never existed, but she's mildly horrified by the idea that my cousins and I are 'courting' without the guarantee of a husband. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 08:05 PM |
| 0 | " He should be supporting you!! "I'd be down to be a sole provider, especially if I married a woman someday - I worry that most men would eventually get resentful. My mom was the sole provider for my family until the recession in 2008, when my SAHF had to go back to work to make ends meet. I have no interest in being a traditional woman, but I would like to have children/a family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 06:10 PM |
| 14 | What's the deal with cunnilingus?I read this in a Seinfeld voice. "What's the deal with cunnilingus? They should have named it something I could pronounce with my mouth on a pussy! It's like the 's' in lisp! At some point, it's just malicious!" Time to go to sleep, I think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 09:33 AM |
| 4 | So what sex acts will you never do again? And why?Every young person should have someone like you in their lives, Oryx. (she said, herself a wise 21 year old) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 06:12 AM |
| 10 | So what sex acts will you never do again? And why?My boyfriend and I had a great conversation before we had sex - he'd only ever had one partner before, and was raised very religious, so we were really explicit going into it, and he had truly never considered that sex was just an extension of the relationship/existing dynamic between two people who love each other. He'd always seen it as a sort of arcane/damnation-inducing ritual, supported by basically-no-sex-ed, zero exposure to sex beyond porn, and we ended up talking about it for several ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 05:38 AM |
| 8 | So what sex acts will you never do again? And why?I think context clues suggest this is also a line for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 05:27 AM |
| 31 | So what sex acts will you never do again? And why?A 'hard no' for me is being verbally demeaned. I am not interested in being called names, I don't like it and it doesn't make me feel good. Same with anything more than very light s/m stuff. I don't like being hit. It sounds childish, but I explicitly told my current boyfriend before we started having sex that I wanted him to be nice to me. What's changed is that I categorically will not 'endure' an unpleasant-but-not-harmful sex act. I'm not going to have unpleasant sex ever again. I like it wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 03:01 AM |
| 10 | Q4W: Why do women care so much about male dating preferences?Do you have a reason to believe this over my account, or are you just here to downvote me? You're not making a very compelling case, but I guess it's legal to say words in whatever order you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 12:22 AM |
| 14 | Q4W: Why do women care so much about male dating preferences?I offered one example of a gender-flipped parallel, here's another: men getting upset when women express a height preference, men getting upset when women express a preference for a person of similar or greater social status, men getting upset when women express a preference for women. People get upset when they feel excluded or unfairly judged. That's a very normal human response, and it's not unevenly distributed by gender. It's a people thing, not a woman thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 12:20 AM |
| 18 | Q4W: Why do women care so much about male dating preferences?(desired gender) having standards screws (desiring gender)'s plans, is the gist of what you're saying, here. Men are upset when they feel they are not personally favored or are otherwise disadvantaged by a perceived 'double standard'. Women are upset when they feel they are not personally favored or are otherwise disadvantaged by a perceived 'double standard'. Sounds like a human thing, not a woman thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 12:16 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: Why do women care so much about male dating preferences?1) Not a great sample size or sampling strategy to support the claim 'women care what people think more than men'. 2) OP, a man, seems to care what people think quite a lot, as do many of the men responding here. 3) Caring about what people think is an evolutionarily favorable attribute for a eusocial species. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 12:14 AM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] Should women be allowed to fart?OSTOMIES FOR ALL WOMEN IMMEDIATELY. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 09:43 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (09 December 2018)Good luck out there! We'll miss you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 08:45 PM |
| 43 | Q4W: Why do women care so much about male dating preferences?Why do men on PPD/elsewhere care so much about female dating preferences? The second a woman here claims to have an approach to dating/attraction different than the TRP-prescribed absolute-amoral-hypergamy, five guys lose their damn minds trying to convince both her and anyone who'll listen that she's as much, if not more, of a duplicitous branch-swinging hypocrite as any other woman. That's a rhetorical question: people care about what other people think about them, and when people express and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Do men with arrested development/fear of aging/losing your looks ever get over it, and if so what changed you and how?Difference between being an ugly young woman (still fuckable, but perceived as disgusting, even more likely to be treated like an idiot) and a neutral old woman (unfuckable, otherwise a person). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 04:39 PM |
| 8 | Q4ALL: What do you make of cultural differences between how women behave towards men?That's what I do when I'm interested in a man. Men like it when you make them feel like the most interesting and important person alive (most people do, in my experience) so if you want to get involved with a man... that's how you do it. Some women are reluctant to do this, because some cultures place greater value on women's obvious chastity/passive desirability. My grandmother, an 'old country' Scandinavian woman, would be appalled at the way I've approached men that I've gone on to date. My m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Do men with arrested development/fear of aging/losing your looks ever get over it, and if so what changed you and how?I eagerly anticipate having professional relationships with male colleagues that are totally uncomplicated by the fact that I'm a pretty/young/fuckable woman, because I definitively won't be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 03:58 PM |
| 2 | Do men with arrested development/fear of aging/losing your looks ever get over it, and if so what changed you and how?I can't wait to age out of being seen as an even moderately fuckable woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 04:04 AM |
| 4 | the drunken musings of azngirl: divorce is a good thing, happy couples don’t divorceAw, you two have a fun evening in!! My chosen vice is The Bachelor. Enjoy. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 03:32 AM |
| 20 | Off Topic Thread: Feminism. Yes... Feminism (08 December 2018)“Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.” – Eric Hoffer We're pretty deep into the 'racket' with what we contemporarily recognize as feminism. Unfortunately, most alternatives for organization in the pursuit of greater equality are also highly commercialized/veiled con-artistry at best. I hope we can figure out some way to learn to be kinder to each other without elevating the shittiest and most amoral among us, but historically that'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 03:30 AM |
| 5 | the drunken musings of azngirl: divorce is a good thing, happy couples don’t divorceI also like to eat utter trash food (I am unashamed about liking Taco Bell and I will force everyone in my car to humor me after a climbing trip, I need my fucking Fresco Bean Burrito and no one ever helps me pay for gas anyway) and agree that people who can't stand each other shouldn't have to stay married. My parents are great and I'm glad they're still together, but the most messed-up people I know closely are people whose parents should be divorced but aren't or should have divorced much ear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 03:23 AM |
| 2 | To what extent do you feel that lover and provider traits belong to two different kinds of men?I think in any circumstance, both women and men are generally 'choosing' based on the information that they have. Certainly in an environment in which the only information with which a decision can be made is looks/short term interactions, the person who ends up chosen is going to be the best 'looking'/best suited to pleasant interactions in the short term. That's part of why I don't like clubs as a place to meet people. With limited data, it's easy to make a poorly-informed choice and end up in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/18 07:43 PM |
| 5 | To what extent do you feel that lover and provider traits belong to two different kinds of men?I don't look for short term relationships. 'Relationships' become short term when someone excludes themselves or I conclude that there is not the 'expected' long term potential, or vice versa - I exclude myself/demonstrate undesirability in some way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/18 05:42 PM |
| 3 | Q4M/WI'm not very confrontational and neither is my boyfriend. I'd flash the ugly scars across my stomach and make a mild scene about how not having a functioning colon means I desperately need to be nearer to the bathroom (shitting uncontrollably, you know how it is!) to put some distance between myself and the creep, and gamble on my ability to ask some sweet old lady or friendly older guy to swap with my boyfriend as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/18 03:23 PM |
| 2 | Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation?I mentioned murder because sometimes kids get murdered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/18 03:16 PM |
| 4 | Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation?Thank goodness I didn't say "there are terrifying and fucked up things that normally happen when kids have access to something their parents can't or won't understand." Instead I said "there are terrifying and fucked up things that happen when kids have access to something their parents can't or won't understand." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/18 06:49 AM |
| 6 | Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation?It can get you murdered, arrested, kicked out of school... kids do and say dumb shit without understanding the consequences. They get radicalized, they get groomed, they become furries, they get super into slenderman and use it as an excuse to commit murder... The outcomes are all over the map, but certainly some are terrifying and fucked up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/18 04:22 AM |
| 1 | Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation?Things are definitely different on a generational scale, though I'm not sure I agree with the apocalyptic tone this article takes. It's a neutral shift, in my view - the way we interact is changing, and it's changing at different rates for different people. The way my little brother (born 2004) uses technology is massively different than the way I did at his age (born 1997) - largely because our parents regulate his use massively more than they did mine. I anticipate that a distinction will emer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/18 02:05 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: Why Do Women Keep Denying Their Own Hypergamy?Why do [subgroup of people] disagree, sometimes even expressing annoyance in the process, when I insist that they're mindless idiots incapable of self-determination or self-examination? There's your answer. You're met with resistance when you attempt to impose, without evidence beyond your own feelings, an insulting set of assumptions on a group of people as though they are homogenous. You won't be taken seriously until you make a serious effort to explain where your assumptions come from and wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 08:24 PM |
| 3 | Would would happen if WOMEN collectively instituted a pussy cartel?The real pussy cartel was the friends we made along the way! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 06:57 PM |
| 6 | Why aren't Feminists dedicating 100% of their time, energy, and resources into waging an all-out war on Islam's misogynistic culture?I assume you have some polls you'd prefer I look at, rather than just the speculative assumption that some exist? I'm going to come back with "you don't seem to have any evidence to support your comment, and don't seem to have read most of mine." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 06:03 PM |
| 18 | Why aren't Feminists dedicating 100% of their time, energy, and resources into waging an all-out war on Islam's misogynistic culture?"Islam" isn't a cohesive group of people against whom one can 'wage war'. Fundamentalists of all religion do far more harm to women than, generally, 'Muslims', who tend to be normal humans just looking to live their lives freely and without fear, like most large groups of people. The bastards are the minority. The subjugation and mass incarceration of particular groups of people based on identity rather than each individual's offenses runs counter to most feminists' beliefs. Look at the overlap … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Would would happen if WOMEN collectively instituted a pussy cartel?Bold of you to assume we're not already operating a pussy cartel, which is coincidentally also the name of my female-fronted punk rock band. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 05:10 PM |
| 2 | The "only 2% of reported rapes are false" statistic commonly cited by feminists is misleadingI'm sincerely curious: what do you think a woman's motivation is to file a false report of rape? Considering, as you've said, the majority of cases are thrown out due to lack of evidence, only a few result in convictions. Reporting a rape is a humiliating process. A person who reports a rape will irrevocably change the way everyone who's ever met them sees them, will lose friends, will lose support from their family, can have their claim used as evidence to increase the cost of their health insu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 11:32 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (02 December 2018)Unfortunately, I have another semester of undergrad left, and I'm pretty sure it would be wildly disruptive to try to move/transfer - I also have work, friends, and some family up here, and none of that where he's headed. Even then, most of the grad schools I'm looking at are back home in the south-south, though I may shoot my shot in the DC area someday. Hence the bittersweet, though sincerely, with the stuff he's been through the last few months, I'm much happier that he's finally getting the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (02 December 2018)My boyfriend got offered his dream job - I was there when he got the phone call!! I'm so excited for him, even though he'll be moving off to DC after the holidays. Just a little bittersweet, but it gives me vastly more faith, though I have little as a baseline, in the government to know that there's a place in it for someone like him. :') | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 09:31 PM |
| 0 | Well?Wait, so you don't think we should subsidize the risk posed by insuring each others' healthcare but do think we should subsidize the risk imposed by insuring each others' cars? They're fundamentally different things, so that's not impossible, but reflects some values I can't say I share. I think the right to transportation is worth defending; I also think that cars aren't a viable option for long-term transportation and that you're picking an irrational hill to die on, here, as insurance pricing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Well?You sound really upset about this. I think public transportation is very important, and I'd be proud to ride the subway next to anyone else trying to get to work. I think society works best when everyone has a right to live and everyone has access to a way to get to work. OP asked 'why is the situation like this'? I said 'because lawmakers are beginning to value the right to life over insurance companies' right to maximize profits, but at the moment the 'equal-opportunity right to drive' does no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 04:52 PM |
| 2 | Am I a good long-term material if I am financially successful but didn't finish college?People on dating sites are looking for shorthand symbols of value - a standard level of attractiveness, a standard level of intelligence, a standard level of income, a standard level of educational attainment. Online dating is all about split-second choices based on limited information, and different people are looking at different 'thresholds' first, second, third... Some women are going to rule someone out if they don't consider them an education-attainment equal. Some women are going to rule … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 04:38 PM |
| 0 | Well?If you're big on 'the universal right to transportation' (which I do think is a way we could improve society greatly) the brilliant solution is public transportation, not 'a cheap car for every man'. Men should access care for chronic pain more often. They refuse to seek out the services that would help them address issues early and prevent worsening of conditions. This is one of the reasons that men die earlier than women. Do you think this is how women should access care, too? Rather than aimi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 03:05 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: What are your dealbreakers? Please include your gender as part of your answer.If I have to travel more than 30 minutes to see someone it's an LDR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 02:59 PM |
| 7 | Well?Philosophical difference of opinion. If you think 'driving a car' should be protected as a right on par with 'being alive and healthy', you should get together with my 95 year old grandma who lives with us and had to stop driving after racking up four collisions in a year. I'm glad that, while it hasn't always been the case, increasingly, decisions about healthcare are being made under the assumption that every person should have equal access to health and safety. Perhaps there are other people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 03:41 AM |
| 4 | Q4ALL: What are your dealbreakers? Please include your gender as part of your answer.What if I'm a tortured and artistic STEM nerd? Please comfort me as I weep quietly about how I'm an organic chemist with dreams of more beautiful chair-conformed hexagonal structures. :'( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 09:44 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: What are your dealbreakers? Please include your gender as part of your answer.How old are you? I'm 21, and most of my friends are in a similar zone to mine which is 'have a list of things I wouldn't do, otherwise more go-along-to-get-along than actually into anything weird'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 09:22 PM |
| 5 | Q4ALL: What are your dealbreakers? Please include your gender as part of your answer.I'm a woman My dealbreakers, for a person who I want to be with in all other respects: Is not kind to me Is not kind to people other than me Takes more than 30 minutes to go see them Doesn't wish to participate in any, or just prohibitively few, of the activities I enjoy (working out, rock climbing, talking about dumb shit like I do here, watching shows that I like, the beach, hiking, learning new things, painting, listening to the eclectic subset of music that I like) Doesn't get along with my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 08:26 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: at what age should a woman stop exploring her career options and settle into a job and have a family before she becomes too old? Would you support your wife making large career decisions? [Advice AND General question]Go back to school if you have the money, if something's making you miserable and you have the option to not be doing it, why keep doing it? Meet a guy who likes the same things you like, who'll actually be a part of the part of your life you enjoy. Or just some really good friends. A partner in a good relationship will be happy that you're making yourself happy, with reasonable limits (probably won't be stoked if your dream is to move to the Alaskan wilderness and not bring them with you). Just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Would it be possible to have a gay-only male society?I'm at a women's college, so close! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 03:48 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: If you were a man, what would be your dating strategy? How would you present yourself?I think it would be more fun to be a tall man than a tall woman. God I would climb so many rocks!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 03:22 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: If you were a man, what would be your dating strategy? How would you present yourself?I'd date your genderbend if I were single 💓 you had me at 'delightful smelling' honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 03:20 AM |
| 2 | Would it be possible to have a gay-only male society?I'm sorry, my blissful lesbian farmer commune doesn't have wifi so I can't answer this question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 09:34 PM |
| 1 | If men and women are equal, then how were women able to be “oppressed” in the first place?Men and women are people, equally capable of doing great things, awful things, clever things, idiotic things, and the whole spectrum of unique and interesting choices. Man are typically larger than women and are less incapacitated by their role in reproduction. Being large no longer confers such a social advantage; birth control means women have more choice, at least, about when they are willing to accept incapacitation, and are less likely to die as a result of reproducing. The world is changin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 09:32 PM |
| 7 | Women only care about your money and status.Women only care about your GPA in organic chemistry and how good you were at the clapping game 'concentration' as a kid. You can put words in any order you want! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 01:10 PM |
| 2 | Would you say the 3 main things women care about is looks, money and social status?Yes to all, but especially to the food! I'm having a bagel with lox for breakfast this morning to honor my heritage since I'll inevitably dishonor it tonight when I'm trying to fry sufganiyot. :< I think a pet salmon would probably not be happy in confinement, but I'm no fish-scientist. They're very cute, though, in my professional opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 01:06 PM |
| 2 | Would you say the 3 main things women care about is looks, money and social status?The main things I (woman) care about are my family, salmon, and climate change, in that order. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 10:57 AM |
| 1 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsHe sure didn't do the right thing for the last two years when he acted like he shared his girlfriend's liberal sexual attitudes and didn't have enough of a potential problem with past promiscuity to have a five-minute conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 10:43 AM |
| 1 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsHe's looking for someone on the internet to help him publicly shame his girlfriend and women like her. In my view, that's not a constructive approach to a relationship - this, plus kicking her out and then going silent, are the things he's done that are, in my view, not morally justified. Learn to read. Consider responding to my actual comment. I'll wait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 08:57 AM |
| -1 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsDid she put his life at risk? No, he put his own dignity at risk, apparently, because he didn't ask a question about something that was important to him and then misrepresented his attitudes as 'liberal about sex'. Then he ghosted his girlfriend after kicking her out of the house for honestly answering a question that she thought he either already knew or didn't care the answer to. He's being a dick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 02:22 AM |
| 1 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsYou don't have to be a dick about the situation and about, potentially, other women who might be in a similar situation, to ask for advice. He was being a dick. If you think 'being a dick' is a necessary precursor to 'asking for advice on the internet', you'll keep getting negative feedback without understanding why for the rest of your life. And the answer won't be 'because other people are misandrists', it'll be 'because you're acting like a dick'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 02:19 AM |
| 2 | Is it really wrong for women to take finances/earning potential into account?If it works, it works. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Whether it's 'justified' depends a lot on the outcome, imo. I think people, regardless of gender, should consider as much information as they reasonably can when choosing their partner - it's the best way to avoid issues later on. If a person knows they'll be stressed out by a partner who's a starving artist type waiting to make it big, or whatever, they probably shouldn't count on being able to 'change' that person, for instance. Just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 09:57 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (02 December 2018)This is the marxist agenda, Salty! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 09:19 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (02 December 2018)The best secular christmas song is carol of the bells and it should be legally required to play on loop on all stations between December 20th and 25th, playing any other secular christmas song being punishable by guillotine. All covers are permitted except the pentatonix one. If social justice activists would just put me in charge the movement would be a lot more zany! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 09:07 PM |
| 8 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (02 December 2018)Did PPD get linked on trufemcels or something? It seems like there's been an influx of commenters/posters from that sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 08:57 PM |
| 12 | Askmen thread: what's something you found attractive when you were younger that you now find unattractiveYou're welcome, always glad to come in clutch as a desktop user! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 08:41 PM |
| 27 | Askmen thread: what's something you found attractive when you were younger that you now find unattractiveJust to answer your question, as it does come up in the thread - all of these are in the top 10 comments, since you don't seem to have scrolled down that far. I don’t think they’ve become unattractive, but they’ve just moved out of the ‘relationship material’ category, But definitely ‘woo girls’ +5.3k upvotes Super high-energy all the time. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a couch potato. But being with someone who is "on" from the time they wake up to the time they go to bed is exhausting. +5.2k upv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 08:38 PM |
| 3 | CMV: High N count girls are high N count because they have unresolved issues.My boyfriend has a social media following and seeing the amount of stress it puts him under has effectively cured me of the desire for strangers on the internet to pay attention to me for any reason ever. There's an extent to which I think the 'social media for affirmation' thing is a young-people phenomenon rather than a young-woman phenomenon, men just often look for different kinds of validation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Has it gotten this bad? (article inside)If she does mean you harm, or might in the future, her reaction is far more likely to be something to the effect of 'how dare you suggest I would make a false accusation! you pervert! you just want an excuse to rape me and get away with it! you disgust me, I didn't even want to have sex with you anyway, I want to go home!' Worst case scenario,on the way home, she files a police report, alleging you took her to your home and tried to make a porno against her will. That's not a bullet dodged. I'm … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Has it gotten this bad? (article inside)The problem comes when the girl feels jilted by the guy So like, if he whips out a camera and insults her integrity to her face? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Has it gotten this bad? (article inside)Here are two scenarios: You're about to have sex with a woman who seems interested in having sex with you. In one universe, the woman means you harm and may someday make an accusation based on the sexual conduct. In one universe, the woman is sincerely interested in having sex with you and has the moral decency not to make a false accusation. Perhaps 5% of women fall into the former category, 95% into the latter. Most people do not make false accusations in their lives. In either case, you take … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Has it gotten this bad? (article inside)What are you trying to say with this comment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Has it gotten this bad? (article inside)The Huffington Post (!) article you cite contains no evidence. There is not a scientific consensus on how gendered differences in brain-scan activity manifest or the origins of gendered differences in behavior. An 'emotional' woman like the one you're describing, if she's offended by being asked for a consent video, now represents a tremendous risk to the man involved. If you're really sleeping with women you genuinely suspect might falsely accuse you of rape, why are you deliberately insulting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 04:46 PM |
| 2 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsisn't for everyone If you don't disclose HIV to someone prior to having sex, you can kill them. The OP of this screed is alive and kicking, and should have asked if a high partner count 'wasn't for him' rather than presenting himself as a person with liberal sexual attitudes who didn't care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 04:38 PM |
| 35 | Why are women not able to consent to sex when drunk but are able to when driving?On some level, a person has to want to drive to drive. A person doesn't have to want sex for someone to take advantage of their incapacitation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 03:58 PM |
| 1 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsThat's a poor analogy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 03:35 PM |
| 7 | CMV: High N count girls are high N count because they have unresolved issues.I think, rather thank 'looking out' for high n-count, it's usually a good idea to look for the issues. Otherwise you end up with a lot of false positives - if you look at the whole field of women who have, say, an n count>19, most are probably not still within that period of their lives. They may still not be the right person for someone, and may still be working through stuff, but that's not inherent to their 'count'. Some guys are just always going to be resistant to the idea of being with a h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 06:12 AM |
| 15 | CMV: High N count girls are high N count because they have unresolved issues.N-count doesn't go backwards once a woman, theoretically, grows into the kind of person who doesn't need that kind of validation. Saying 'high n-count indicates unresolved issues' is a poor generalization to make - a sweet grandmother who's at peace with her wild escapades in the 60s and has been with her husband ever since can have the same n-count as a 25 year old who hasn't had sex sober in years. Neither is inherently a bad person, but both could have the same, say, count of 20, but be at ve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 05:52 AM |
| 1 | Has it gotten this bad? (article inside)It's worth trying to know before having sex with someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 04:07 AM |
| 2 | Off Topic Thread: Why don't you do the things you know you should be doing? (01 December 2018)I think you would. He's sincerely wonderful, probably the smartest person I know, and even with all the moments I resented it, I'll be raising my children the way he raised me as best I can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 02:29 AM |
| 8 | Has it gotten this bad? (article inside)Humans are fueled by emotions and can flip on a dime. A 'prior to the act' consent video is useless in court if someone wants to hurt you - all of this is useless if someone wants to hurt you. It could be, as I said, evidence that you were trying to establish an alibi and intended to have forcible/unwanted sex, or had such aggressive/forcible/unwanted sex that you could easily threaten her into making the video. Having sex with people who you know don't want to hurt you is just smart, I think mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 02:28 AM |
| 9 | Has it gotten this bad? (article inside)These are two situations, one of which occurred in extenuating circumstances (minor celebrity). It's very silly to extend this article to an umbrella 'it'. No, not all teenagers are eating tide pods, and not all men are so petrified of being accused of sexual misconduct that they're eliminating their chances of having any kind of sexual conduct by freaking a woman out in this way. If a guy asked me to 'consent on video' I would fear that he intended to hurt me and wanted an alibi. A really easy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 02:19 AM |
| 5 | Off Topic Thread: Why don't you do the things you know you should be doing? (01 December 2018)When I was very young, my dad brought me to Walmart and let me pick out some clothes for 'back to school' shopping. While I was taking out a shirt I wanted, I dropped another shirt - and if you've ever seen Walmart clothing areas during the back to school frenzy, it was not the only shirt on the ground. I brought the shirt I wanted over to my dad and asked if I could go try it on. "What about the shirt you dropped?" he said. "Sorry!" I said, and went to go put it back. "No," he said, "you stay r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 01:59 AM |
| 11 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsThat's a mutual responsibility. He clearly cares more than she does; if it's important to him, the burden to 'ask' is his. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 12:32 AM |
| 20 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsHe's looking for someone on the internet to help him publicly shame his girlfriend and women like her. In my view, that's not a constructive approach to a relationship - this, plus kicking her out and then going silent, are the things he's done that are, in my view, not morally justified. He's entitled to his opinions, but he's not entitled to post them publicly, along with his soon-to-be-ex's dirty laundry, and expect no one to react with revulsion and condemnation. He's behaving poorly. She, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel if a woman is explicit on her dating profile “I am looking for a nice beta provider with a good job”I tell people I am pretty and a good person compulsively every thirty seconds outside of PPD, sorry to shatter the illusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 08:07 PM |
| 8 | Q4Men: How do you feel if a woman is explicit on her dating profile “I am looking for a nice beta provider with a good job”Where did you find my OKC profile from 2016? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 06:48 PM |
| 3 | Does face or body matter more for female SMV?When dating women, I gravitate much more to a pretty face than a particularly conventionally attractive body. I don't assume that men have the same approach as a bi woman, but my boyfriend appreciates my face over my body. He's an ass guy and I barely have one; it's just not how my body distributes fat. If body was decisive for him he wouldn't have been very attracted to me as a baseline. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 05:19 AM |
| 6 | How do women show love to men?I can't speak for other women. He cried on my shoulder midway through a conversation addressing some of the hopelessness he'd been feeling about a week ago and it was the closest I've ever felt to him. Part of it is that I know I can trust him with my own feelings - that he'll put the same amount of effort into helping me through a rough patch if one ever comes up. A lot of the iffy situations come from feeling like unequal expectations are at play - most men just don't have well-developed sense… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 05:13 AM |
| 6 | How do women show love to men?My boyfriend loves watermelon flavored candies (I think they're disgusting, but it's sweet that he has such a preference) so I buy anything watermelon flavored when I encounter it. He lives on clif bars half the time, since his job(s) have been stressful, and I order them in bulk on Amazon and leave them in his cupboard so I know he'll have something to eat. We talk about things he hasn't talked about with anyone else. He puts himself under an ungodly amount of stress, some of which comes from b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 05:04 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women don't want childrenI'm the oldest grandchild on both sides of the family by ~4 years and I love my grandparents but if they don't stop pulling the 'I'll be dead soon' card... grandma, I'm 21! You can hang on 5 years for grad school, if my dumb ovaries work now they'll work then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 04:43 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Women don't want childrenDo you have evidence other than your own speculation for any of the claims on which your argument depends? Here are some important ones: Upper/middle class women used to be the fertility powerhouses of the US, somehow, but then birth control happened The drop in price of consumer products is sufficient to compensate for the immense increase in cost of housing, medical care, and education Another factor statistically eclipses the decline in marriage in contribution to declining birth rate OR Decl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 03:55 AM |
| 9 | CMV: Women don't want childrenSpeaking of which, it is general upper middle class and upper class women who are having the least children. These women can afford children, they just don't want them. Upper middle/upper class women have never had the most children. This has been the case since the advent of contraceptive methods. More recently, working/middle class women are also having fewer children. Yeah, rent and healthcare have gone way up That might be part of the story as to why. That, and the declining marriage rates, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 03:16 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Women don't want childrenI want children; out of the many, many women that I know, more want children than don't want children. If you want more numbers, here's an article that takes a dive into the analysis of factors behind lowered birth rates: The decline in fertility is not due to women wanting fewer kids. It also isn’t due to men wanting fewer kids, or to population aging. Nor is it due to abortion: Abortion rates are actually declining. It may be partly due to the rising usage of longer-acting contraception, or di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 02:56 AM |
| 12 | Why do men spend more time anonymous online than women?People will assume you're a man if you don't state your gender. They'll also generally treat you better. If my posting here didn't often specifically include references to my own experiences and relationships, I wouldn't tell you all my gender. Women spend plenty of time 'complaining' about men, but their spaces look different than men's spaces. There are IG communities that post the memes that braincels users hold up as evidence of rampant misandry to rival their own misogyny, Tumblr/Twitter co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 01:41 AM |
| 1 | why do any women like the instagram eyebrows or bother doing them and sharing picturesThey're pretty difficult to actually do, I've never gotten the hang of it - I respect women who can do any kind of eyebrow fancier than some tinted gel. It's a kind of art, requiring a skill I lack. My view of others' avant-garde aesthetic choices is that I've done some dumb shit to my face and hair in my day, so who am I to judge, honestly? It makes for eye-catching pictures, and I guess that's what they're going for. I don't think I've ever seen someone wearing their eyebrows like that outside… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 01:11 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The reason women yell and complain so much is because it works for themIn other words, he was hostile to a woman the second she suggested that she was involved in his field. Both of you are actively contributing to a problem you turn around and claim doesn't exist; people being dismissive and insulting of women in STEM without any evidence of their faults/defects beyond their womanhood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 01:03 AM |
| 5 | CMV: The reason women yell and complain so much is because it works for themHave you, perhaps, listened to what you yourself consider acceptable to say to another human being, with no evidence, purely because she is a woman? You sound hostile. I wouldn't want to work with you if your presence here is any reflection of your attitude, skills, or problem-solving ability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 09:24 PM |
| 4 | CMV: The reason women yell and complain so much is because it works for themBut it's impossible that men in the field are contributing to a hostile environment that makes other fields more preferable for similarly qualified women? Interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 09:03 PM |
| 5 | CMV: The reason women yell and complain so much is because it works for themWomen are not favored in the hiring process. They are disadvantaged compared with equally skilled men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What do you think about these studies and views concerning female empathy/sympathy?This is the study you brought up, of course I'm scrutinizing it. This study isn't 'intended' to 'challenge' conventional wisdom - it's describing how people of different genders behave and react, sometimes, under a specific set of circumstances. If you want to argue about the unique emotional capacity of men, I don't know what to tell you - I think both men and women are people, socialized to express and process emotions in different ways, and that with a different study structure these 'differe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 06:57 PM |
| 21 | CMV: The reason women yell and complain so much is because it works for them'Anger' and 'crying' are different things. Your post describes the female behaviors you think are rewarded as 'yelling and complaining'. Has the evidence I've presented changed your view on that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What do you think about these studies and views concerning female empathy/sympathy?Usually when people talk about their feelings, they're not talking to a stranger. Do you disagree that men might have more trouble/less experience articulating their feelings to a stranger than a woman might? I'm saying that these studies say something, but not 'women are more/less empathetic than men'. From there, cool, look for behavioral patterns in practice, look for the effects of a male or female interviewer, look for whether teaching both men and women beforehand the ways to describe and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 06:00 PM |
| 47 | CMV: The reason women yell and complain so much is because it works for themActually, in practice, the opposite has been demonstrated to be true. Particularly when it comes to the expression of anger, male anger is a legitimizing force while female anger makes the woman in question less persuasive and easier to disregard. Not because of differential expression patterns: in computer generated imagery paired with different gendered names. This analysis is founded on the inaccurate assumption that female anger is treated as more legitimate than male anger. That is categori… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What do you think about these studies and views concerning female empathy/sympathy?The scale of a study doesn't change what it proves, which is, in this case: these men, and these women, in these highly unnatural scenarios, exhibited these physiological responses and reported these descriptions of their self-assessed responses. Bigger doesn't mean the conclusions would go deeper. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What do you think about these studies and views concerning female empathy/sympathy?People overextend and overinterpret lab studies to say things they don't really say. That's what I see going on in this post. My knee is not jerked, but my 'sensationalist account of a baseline study that doesn't go nearly as far as the reporting journalists seem to think it does, and that the scientists in question wouldn't use to make the assertions they use' sense is going haywire. Lab studies aren't 'irrelevant'. I said 'they aren't as useful as people think they are for drawing broad and ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Do women ever really love men?You caught me, I'm a sucker for some fresh alaskan king crab! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What do you think about these studies and views concerning female empathy/sympathy?These are poor studies to cite as authoritative verdicts on emotion by gender. I'm not saying they're bad, I'm saying that what they prove isn't what this post suggests they prove. Lab behavioral studies aren't useless, but they aren't as useful as people think they are for drawing broad and accurate conclusions about human behavior. In my opinion, the resources that fund this kind of research would be better used almost anywhere else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 03:21 PM |
| 6 | Do women ever really love men?Things that are true are useful. We, to an extent, through the way we exert our sociocultural influence and either choose to try/not try to enjoy something, have a hand in what makes us feel 'good'. If I remind myself that, while something may seem great in the moment [twinkies taste good, storming out and 'winning' an arguement feels good'], there are other circumstances to consider [I enjoy my athleticism and eating twinkies jeopardizes that, I enjoy my relationship with my boyfriend and storm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 04:21 AM |
| 16 | Do women ever really love men?Not all women truly love their kids. Many are terrible mothers. Many men make terrible fathers. Men and women alike are sometimes altruistic, sometimes egoistic, sometimes both within the same lifetime or the same relationship. Men and women alike are sometimes good partners, sometimes poor partners, and sometimes just the wrong fit for their partners despite their best efforts. The attempt to apply the original post's analysis - 'some people don't love unconditionally... in fact, many people do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 03:28 AM |
| 11 | Q4W: What do you think about these studies and views concerning female empathy/sympathy?Florence Nightingale is not usually the authority I defer to when defining my experience of being a woman. Her qualifications (woman) are the same as mine. Of the studies: if you show a man a heartwarming video of a man, they'll have a different reaction than a woman would to the same video... not a shocking conclusion. The 'reporting' aspect of this could just as easily reveal underreporting of feelings by men - there's no 'baseline' from which women are deviant and to which men are adherent. P… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 03:18 AM |
| 1 | I never wanted to sacrifice my career for a relationship. Then I realized something had to change.It sounds like she really liked him or didn't like her job. My boyfriend plans to live in DC in a few years; I love him, completely and fully, but without a job in my field or a grad-school reason to be there, that'd be it for us and I'd probably go back to being married to the work until I've got my PhD. I won't suffer for a partner. That's the quickest way to destroy a good relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: I have heard from women here that AWALT is not true, only that men go after the wrong type of women. What is the right type, and how is it different from an AWALT? How can the fabled NAWALT be recognized?Some people have the capacity to be terrible, if you want to split hairs. Some people don't, or won't, and you can tell which people these are, usually, because they seem decent, interesting, well-adjusted, and not at all like any of the women in the relationships OP has described. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 11:37 PM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on ghosting?On a mild scale, dying before changing a consistent pattern of cruelty. On a more dramatic scale - acts of greater cruelty to others, like murder and violent rape - unrepentance for the cruelty, a willingness to repeat truly repugnant acts once one is aware of their repugnance/consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 09:24 PM |
| 11 | Q4W: I have heard from women here that AWALT is not true, only that men go after the wrong type of women. What is the right type, and how is it different from an AWALT? How can the fabled NAWALT be recognized?Most women are just normal humans. If you get the sense that a woman is a tremendous jerk, you're legally permitted and even encouraged to politely stop talking to her. Especially given the track record you describe, you might try taking things slow at first, to give yourself more time to catch red flags that you've missed in the past. A woman who isn't... terrible... won't be terrible. She'll have her own life and interests and friends. If she doesn't seem to have these things, either investiga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 01:42 AM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on ghosting?If, like me/anyone I'd partner up with, you consider 'honesty' a worthwhile value, and you're making a choice to withhold it to avoid the distress or unpleasantness of the conversation at the expense of the opportunity to say 'I'm sorry we didn't have more of an open channel of conversation about grooming, I think I undercommunicated some of the things that were making me unhappy in the bedroom, and I'm sorry about that - I'll work on it in the future, but I think that the situation has gone bey… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 09:56 PM |
| 1 | WHY are male friendships less "emotionally deep" than female friendships?This is a great 'general background' paper on gendered socialization and age-onset of play differentiation! Also consider reading up on studies performed on children with Williams Syndrome, many of which look at questions of the role of 'social fear' in interactions, including among high-functioning WS children. Lack of social fear seems to eliminate the ability to learn racial stereotypes about competence and goodness, but WS children can still learn gender stereotypes about the same qualities,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 09:50 PM |
| 2 | WHY are male friendships less "emotionally deep" than female friendships?Follow up: my dad has a close circle of male friends, including old friends from college years and other 'dads' at my brother's high school, as well as the dads of my friends back home. He's a social person and actually founded a 'dads' club' at the school where he works to try to build the same emotional support network for other male parents feeling isolated by/within fatherhood. One of his friends lost his wife to cancer - the other friends closed ranks to support the guy, who briefly lived w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 08:14 PM |
| 2 | WHY are male friendships less "emotionally deep" than female friendships?Is the difference between male and female friendships caused mainly by culture or biology? Culture. Biology as it pertains to behavior is immensely malleable, we've evolved to favor intelligence and adaptability, people are more than a cocktail of hormones attached to a time bomb and some fancy light sensors operating an automaton. Look at how very young children - especially children without social fear (Williams Syndrome) interact with each other vs. how older children begin to pair off and st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 08:08 PM |
| 3 | Women have the right to reject broke men and should be encouraged to do so.People shouldn't be 'encouraged' to inflict emotional pain on another person for any reason other than the mitigation of their own or others' pain. For some women, dating a broke man may not be her best option, it may limit her ability to care for a family member or maintain a healthy work-life balance or actualize her goals. For other women, dating a broke man may be the single most happy and healthy part of their lives; love is just love, and when it happens, it happens. It doesn't make sense … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 06:44 PM |
| 5 | When did the word "Cis" become mainstream?My organic chemistry professor a few semesters ago introduced cis-trans isomers by excitedly explaining to us that, over the course of her career, as the language (when used for gender identity) has become mainstream, she was able to spend less time explaining the distinction as people came to her class with the understanding that 'cis means same side, trans means changed/crossed over', which slightly but noticeably changed the way she approached stereochemistry as a topic over the past couple o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 03:14 PM |
| 3 | Do guys ever have girl bullies?I've definitely observed women bullying men, covertly and overtly. In early grades, when most of us might as well not have had genders for all we were aware of them, people who were cruel were equal-opportunity cruel to people of perceived lower status. This was early 2000s - maybe people of different ages had different experience with this kind of egalitarian meanness, but I can think of girls who slapped boys (as well as girls), called boys (and girls) names to their faces and kept going when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 04:37 AM |
| 3 | What's your opinion on ghosting?People do cruel, idiot shit all the time. Her particular cruel story has become the public spectacle she tried to make of her ex's condition and the aftermath of her actions. I hope she learns from this and treats people better in the future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 03:05 AM |
| 16 | What's your opinion on ghosting?Ghosting isn't very kind, but people do unkind things all the time without being fundamentally bad people. It's a selfish choice, like a thousand other selfish choices people make based on what they prioritize at any given moment. Almost everyone deserves the door held for them when they are struggling, but sometimes someone else is struggling with something different and can't or won't set it aside long enough to hold the door. We should all try to consider others' feelings whenever possible an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 02:55 AM |
| 3 | Communication between the sexes.I wish men were better at both accepting and giving compliments - little sincere gestures of appreciation. It's something almost every man I've considered a friend or otherwise had a relationship with has struggled with. Noticing and commenting on things people are proud of goes a long way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/18 05:27 PM |
| 2 | What's the reason behind this overemphasis on trangenderism?I don't think people who aren't trans have any reason to be flipping out over trans people or whoever else doing what makes them happier. As long as someone's willing to tell me what they want to be called and doesn't specifically use confusion about their identity to seem superior to other people, I've got no issue with people doing what they want - and even then, it's more like 'wow, that's a sign that this person is a dick' then an issue that comes with someone being trans. We should try not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 10:43 PM |
| 3 | Could a relationship where the man has sex with other women ( with the woman's consent ) but is emotionally faithful to his partner be sustainable in the long term?I don't want to assume that anything is impossible - there are a whole lot of people in the world and I haven't met all of them. That said, it seems like a stressful situation for both partners. What is the man 'getting', here - he has sex with his partner, but not... all the time? Sometimes he doesn't? Why not just date the woman he wants to be having sex with enough to have sex with her? How about the woman? What is she 'getting' out of the relationship - 'emotional faith', so like, a friend w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 10:08 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Malls are a temple to womenWhat are some refutations to this viewpoint? Malls are temples to socially constructed conspicuous displays and acquisitions of the trappings of femininity or, if you prefer to simplify, 'women'. Men go to malls independently - my little brother has Legend of Zelda t-shirts and figurines and games that he wants to get that, I love him, but certainly aren't acquired with the sole purpose of attracting women. He just likes them. It's what he's been taught it's 'okay' to like. Increasingly, he's al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 07:09 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (25 November 2018)Thank you Salty, you're kind to say so. I'm mulling over ways to feel better about my use of time in general and especially the internet. We'll see where that takes me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 09:35 AM |
| 14 | Thanks, birth control day spawned a series of tweets by women espousing why they're thankful for birth control. These exact same reasons justify enabling men to terminate paternal rights and support obligations (also known as "male abortion" or "paper abortion") CMV.In a case in which the potential consequences of carrying a pregnancy to term are equal for both parties, the opportunity to 'opt out' should be equitably distributed. This is not an easy state of affairs to reach, as there is no proportionate physical toll to an unwanted pregnancy (even one that ends in a termination) for the man involved. Vasectomy can be irreversible; my whole point here is women are able.to indulge in life's ultimate pleasure, condomless sex, without irreversibly damaging th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 09:32 AM |
| 30 | Thanks, birth control day spawned a series of tweets by women espousing why they're thankful for birth control. These exact same reasons justify enabling men to terminate paternal rights and support obligations (also known as "male abortion" or "paper abortion") CMV.This is especially true in light of how important having unprotected sex is to living a fulfilled life (if it were not, then women wouldn't be so extremely thankful for birth control as illustrated in the examples below, porn wouldn't be a billion dollar industry, etc.) Condoms are birth control, condoms also sometimes fail, other forms of birth control make great insurance but don't protect against STIs. I've literally never had unprotected sex and I won't until I'm trying to have a child. Noth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 08:33 AM |
| 6 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (25 November 2018)Posting anything anywhere other than here is always such a hilarious reminder that most people, even on the internet, are not reflexively antagonistic. You're all fascinating and have many valuable perspectives, and many of you have been extremely kind and welcoming, but I worry that posting here will make/has made me a little less kind/forgiving to strangers, which isn't the way I want to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 05:26 AM |
| 6 | Ensuring LoyaltyPeople cheat on hot people all the time, regardless of their own standing in terms of conventional attractiveness. A person who is 'unsatisfied' in some way and for whom cheating is easily done in their environment will likely cheat unless they have a strong moral imperative not to. Most people don't have a particularly strong moral imperative to do anything but maximize their own pleasure, and if cheating seems to be a particularly pleasurable activity (convenient, appealing extramonogamous par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 12:57 AM |
| 22 | Do women tend to prefer younger men after a certain age? Are Twilight moms (for example) just exceptions or more common but maybe some just don't say it out of fear of judgement?Some women haven't moved on from seeing themselves as early-twenties-late-teens. Some women, despite occupying the 'older' social role, find the idea of an inexperienced or younger partner who would be uniquely impressed by their 'experience'/'openness' in contrast with younger women to be an appealing one. Some women just like the idea of a famous/rich/powerful man regardless of his age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/18 07:14 PM |
| 2 | CMV that many lesbian women are bisexuals sick of players and unwilling to betabux.most lesbian women are bisexuals who get similar "tingles" from women as they do from men So this is just... most lesbian women are bisexual. I don't know how much time you've spent with gay women (over half of the women at my school identified as 'something other than straight' as of October of last year, including me) but many gay women are just gay and would sincerely never want anything to do with a man, ever. It hasn't been 'studied' that I'm aware of, but anecdotally, I know and have dated… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/18 03:53 PM |
| 0 | Should the public education system do more to prevent minors from having sex?Perhaps I should have said 'to respond to this post, which I am responding to with this response, about how the negative impacts you've described can be minimized, in this response, [Sex ed is vital, more comprehensive sex ed is vital, particularly sex ed that focuses on making responsible choices, legally, socially, and in terms of health.]' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 11:42 PM |
| 7 | Should the public education system do more to prevent minors from having sex?Sex ed is vital, more comprehensive sex ed is vital, particularly sex ed that focuses on making responsible choices, legally, socially, and in terms of health. This sort of education about planning ahead and 'how to say no/set boundaries' would deal with many of the concerns you raise. A few additions, though - I say this very sincerely: to reduce problematic/unhealthy/inequality enhancing sexual behavior, offer more engaging extracurriculars without excluding low income students. A lot of thing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 11:08 PM |
| 5 | Off Topic Thread: What's something that seems obvious in your profession, but the general public misunderstands? (24 November 2018)Hey, thank you for everything you all do. The team of nurses at the hospital where I was bound up in north florida saved my life innumerable times and I was mostly too out of it to say thanks. Being able to get information out of/calm down a panicking/bleeding drugged up kid is such a niche skill but so important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 10:52 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The tension between Feminism/Gynocentrism, Capitalism and Socialism is inevitable.I had an extended Rand phase. This being the case, I think rationalism/objectivism can be a great springboard to materialism, and from there to humanism. Objectivism: some things are true independently of what we think or know of them, collectively or individually. 'It is thought to be' does not mean 'it is' - what is, is. Rationalism: internal consistency rather than abstract extrinsic values should be the means by which truly useful moral principles are formed. Hell yeah! These are very appeal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 08:43 PM |
| 5 | Off Topic Thread: What's something that seems obvious in your profession, but the general public misunderstands? (24 November 2018)[fancy sounding hard science degree] is not a substitute for the essential question, 'does the shit this person is saying make a goddamned ounce of sense based on the evidence they present?' Which is not to say 'I can just out-reason this paper that suggests [conclusion I disagree with] because [small-sample-size anecdotal evidence that informs my personal opinion], checkmate!', but which is to say 'read the methods section, don't cite 'discussion' as 'results', and many, many people, with suffi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 06:58 PM |
| 3 | Do women care about height in dating?Some women are height conscious; some are less height conscious. Some men have very specific standards for body type preferences in women, some women have very specific standards for body type preferences in men. I would guess that there are very few women who would walk away from an otherwise excellent match over a man's being, say, one or two inches shorter than them. Especially as women get taller and the likelihood that they will encounter (relatively) shorter men increases, a small height d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 05:59 PM |
| 3 | I actually don't know where to talk about this so I'll try here. How dangerous is it as a man to help women and children these days?If you're insured in the US, therapy is often covered. I recommend it specifically because my boyfriend has found it so helpful - in situations like the one you're describing and in general. You won't have to ask a stranger on the internet (a 21 year old biochemist with absolutely no qualifications to dispense advice beyond having gone to therapy a few times) about an endless list of hypotheticals if you cultivate the skill for yourself. And by all means, if the situation seems right, make a jud… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 05:11 PM |
| 3 | I actually don't know where to talk about this so I'll try here. How dangerous is it as a man to help women and children these days?Here's the 'worst case' you described in the top comment: Worse case, someone sees me pick her up and accuses me of being a pedo. My entire family looks at me differently. Worth it? To circumvent this anxiety about your family, make your family member your ally in 'rescuing the child' instead of your hypothetical judge, jury, and executioner. Understand that, at least as you explain it here, your fear is not 'being a pedo' - you're not a pedo for helping a child, no amount of hysterics will make… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 04:56 PM |
| 15 | I actually don't know where to talk about this so I'll try here. How dangerous is it as a man to help women and children these days?What you're describing sounds a lot like anxiety. I say this sincerely - it might be worth talking to someone about the way you feel, since if you approach situations where you have to interact with a child or a woman with fear/nervousness, that may make it difficult to move about the world the way you want to and in a way that makes you feel proud of yourself and confident in your own skin. You can and should do whatever you want, but avoidance of situations with women/children will ultimately … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Where is the line drawn?Sounded like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 04:30 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Where is the line drawn?Did you read literally any other part of the comment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 04:25 AM |
| 1 | Red pill says fuck other girls while in ltr. What do you say?I understand - if you look at the full statement, what I said was 'monogamy if you don't want to be monogamous is a recipe for disaster'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 08:34 PM |
| 11 | Q4RP: Where is the line drawn?When my first boyfriend, who I was also absolutely puppy-in-love with, went a little further than I like with dirty talk, I swallowed the 'don't like this!' impulse and just went along with it - it was my first time ever having sex! I loved him so much! He could have stabbed me and I'd have been like 'that's okay!! I love you! I'll clean this up!! So sorry this is all my fault!!' and then died. It happened again, and again, and every time it was harder to swallow the discomfort, but because I ke… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 08:31 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] What are the main reasons that women choose online dating?Online dating is an easy shot of nice-feeling endorphins when you get a match. Actual dating is logistically difficult compared to online dating, so even if it's a bigger reward - potential for sex, partnership, good conversation, something lasting... it's really hard to shoehorn in an in-person date in the time it takes to walk to work. One is easier than the other and still has the same addictive quality as a slot machine. The other is hard to schedule, sometimes dangerous, sometimes very disa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 06:04 PM |
| 3 | Red pill says fuck other girls while in ltr. What do you say?What question do you think I'm dodging? Legitimately, where are you trying to go with this hypothetical? Are you looking for a forced choice between 'dysfunctional/duplicitous monogamy' and 'celibacy'? I'm bisexual, I wouldn't need to 'turn lesbian' - if 'male cheating' was the norm, bisexual women who desired monogamy dating women would be the norm. If 'everyone cheating' was the norm, people who desired monogamous relationships would not exist. Curious, truly, what you're going for here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 05:50 PM |
| 1 | What are people's thoughts on this Reddit post?I was talking about the other commenter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 02:26 PM |
| 11 | Red pill says fuck other girls while in ltr. What do you say?Not date men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 02:25 PM |
| 3 | Red pill says fuck other girls while in ltr. What do you say?I mean, sure. My boyfriend is also bisexual; I simplify to avoid making my comments About Bi People when they don't need to be, since I'm in a pretty het-looking relationship, and I do recognize that there are pretty significant dynamic differences between dating a man and dating a woman. I'm in a monogamous relationship; mutually, we're the only people we sleep with. Whether one of us broke that informal 'contract' with a man or a woman, the other would be well within their rights to say 'bye' … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 02:24 PM |
| 24 | Red pill says fuck other girls while in ltr. What do you say?It's fine to be monogamous if you want to be monogamous. If you don't want to be monogamous, it's a recipe for disaster. If my boyfriend was 'gaming' or having sex with other women I would break up with him before he could say 'but someone on the internet told me it was okay'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 01:52 PM |
| 0 | What are people's thoughts on this Reddit post?My speculation was supported by the available but incomplete evidence, and was largely in response to the questions being asked by the post; Q4ALL: Is it slut-shaming to break up with somebody over their partner count? ... well, just breaking up with someone isn't, but being rude about it would be, and he's now been accused by multiple parties of being The Asshole... why might that be? What about the situation could justify an accusation of slut-shaming, assuming all parties are acting moderatel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 01:37 PM |
| 1 | What are people's thoughts on this Reddit post?Are you doing that classic reddit thing where you read far too much into situations so you cast judgement on the OP? You didn't seem so sure before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 05:18 PM |
| 1 | What are people's thoughts on this Reddit post?He's on a sub called 'am I the asshole?' asking hundreds of people to tell him he's not an asshole. Saying I called him a monster is some grade-A hyperbole. I imagine he didn't just nod calmly and break up with her in so many words; breaking up so abruptly for this reason, it's likely he said some things worth regretting. Saying shitty things to someone over their partner count is 'being shitty to them', slut shaming or not. I hope he considers meaningfully the way he chose to end the relationsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 04:40 PM |
| 2 | What are people's thoughts on this Reddit post?As I said, and as you ignored, 'If you're on a sub asking strangers to forgive you on your ex's and friends' behalf, it's not really a reach that you feel guilty about something.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 04:26 PM |
| 2 | What are people's thoughts on this Reddit post?Perhaps I'm missing the 'wishful condemnation' from my comment. As I said, and as you ignored, 'If you're on a sub asking strangers to forgive you on your ex's and friends' behalf, it's not really a reach that you feel guilty about something.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 04:20 PM |
| 4 | If you want to know why people are having less sex than before, you must ask "why are women giving out less sex than before?"It's hard to find a proper relationship, and even harder to maintain one in a climate of severe economic anxiety. That's a tremendous shame, I agree. If you ask a lot of people my age about their dreams, they're something like 'a job I enjoy, a spouse, owning my own home or at least a nice apartment someday'. People have already downshifted their expectations, and they're still getting the rug yanked out from under them by debt and a terrible entry-level job market. The basic tenets of a happy l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 04:18 PM |
| 5 | What are people's thoughts on this Reddit post?Are you doing that classic bad faith thing where you ask a patronizing question without contributing anything to the conversation? If you're on a sub asking strangers to forgive you on your ex's and friends' behalf, it's not really a reach that you feel guilty about something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 04:11 PM |
| 2 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?I'm from the south; I have friends with big dreams who moved home to try to 'change things', only to realize that they'd never be able to pay off their loans without working at least another part-time job. Teaching here entry-level is around 30k, median is 35k. If they stick it out for a decade they might make more, but not much more. My dad's been teaching for a decade now, was state teacher of the year, and doesn't make 40k. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 04:07 PM |
| 6 | Should sending dick pics be a crime?Really it's just for the laughs. They know how outraged, disgusted, and hysterical women get when they see these pics. I must admit I myself find it very funny when I see how they react (I've never sent one myself though). That's not behavior that should be encouraged by a functional society. I think there are better cases to be made against the criminalization of self-made pornographic image dissemination than 'I personally think the adverse effect it has on women is funny and desirable'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 03:57 PM |
| 5 | What are people's thoughts on this Reddit post?No one should stay in a relationship they don't want to stay in. It's not fair to anyone involved. Breaking up with someone you otherwise like (enough to stay with them for eight months!) over their partner count is a little silly, and it's worth taking some time to reflect 'why did that revelation bother me so much? how can I avoid the kind of relationship where this sort of information makes continuing the relationship untenable? what do I value in a partnership?' but regardless of gender, no … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 03:49 PM |
| 4 | If you want to know why people are having less sex than before, you must ask "why are women giving out less sex than before?"Student loans are being issued at unprecedented rates as more American students pursue higher education. But the cost of tuition at both private and public institutions is touching all-time highs, while interest rates on student loans are also rising. Students are spending more time working instead of studying. (Some 85 percent of current students now work paid jobs while enrolled.) Experts and analysts worry that the next generation of graduates could default on their loans at even higher rates… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 03:41 PM |
| 8 | If you want to know why people are having less sex than before, you must ask "why are women giving out less sex than before?"You're not reading my responses. "Women don't have unique access" means exactly that. No one has special 'free time' privileges owed to their gender. So, you know, I don't want to have sex with an okay man. I don't want to have sex with any man who isn't more important to me than my studies or otherwise capable of working around them. I want to have sex with a steady boyfriend who doesn't pose a risk to me like an ONS would, and I want our lifestyles to work together, and if they don't, being ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 05:55 AM |
| 10 | If you want to know why people are having less sex than before, you must ask "why are women giving out less sex than before?"The same is true of young men. the same is true of men everyone my age is feeling the economic pressure Hint: read the comment. Women don't have unique access to the free time and financial security necessary to safely and satisfactorily enter relationships. Women accept greater risk to their economic productivity and employability every time they have sex; a pregnancy is the quickest way for her to depress her wage potential and damage her health and employability. That's not worth riskin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 05:34 AM |
| 1 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?I'm an RA (a residential job with regular hours and a certain amount of on-call work due to the residential nature), and organic chemistry lab assistant/TA, and I work in a local lab. I'm taking four classes, two of which have lab sections, so two days I have class one-after-another between 8am and 1:30pm, with lab sections on two different afternoons. I work sections two other afternoons, and two free mornings, for a total of 14 hrs a week (3.5 per section, plus or minus setup and if the lab ru… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 05:29 AM |
| 24 | If you want to know why people are having less sex than before, you must ask "why are women giving out less sex than before?"Women are tired and overworked because wages haven't kept up with inflation, older employees aren't financially secure enough to retire, and student loan debt is strangling them. They're busy, they're receiving messages that the men they meet need extensive vetting due to current sociocultural atmosphere, they're on a budget, they have more time to work if they're not in a relationship and relationships, both finding and maintaining, need a lot of time and attention, in part because they increas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 03:10 AM |
| 2 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?Great, I'll answer it, we're on the same page! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 01:01 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (18 November 2018)Congratulations on the position! Literature review can be mind-numbing, glad you're getting out early for Thanksgiving! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 11:52 PM |
| 3 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?Humble brag implies an attempt to obfuscate the brag. Don't ask a question if you don't want an answer, perhaps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 11:48 PM |
| 5 | Q4WOMEN: Fat girls, what was your reaction when you finally realized that looks matter?My earliest memory of just 'existing' rather than an event or a specific interaction with a parent or something was looking at myself in a bathroom mirror when I was four and realizing I didn't look like any of the women I thought were beautiful, thinking that I was ugly. Women know that looks matter. It's been taught to us all of our lives. I dealt with body image issues for most of my early life, including an eating disorder that landed me in the hospital a few times in high school, and eventu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 09:28 PM |
| 3 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?Good on you for pursuing a field you love! College is a great way to get a handle on new/developing fields. I hope someday you find the right school for you to get in on AI work, many schools (including mine) have specific programs including support for older students. A few close friends of mine are mid-late thirties and just now shifting from other fields into a bio/chem/compsci degree, and they're some of the most interesting people I know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 09:07 PM |
| 2 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?So much of dealing with antibiotic resistance is going to have to be international cooperation to alter the way modern agribusiness works, which... if the way we're dealing with climate change is any indication, won't be an easy pill to swallow. No one likes hearing that there's not a magic bullet pill on the way, or that the pills they already have rely on responsible use to keep working. I hope in the future I'll have more time to branch out into scicom or various other kinds of educational en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 07:58 PM |
| 4 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?It depends a lot on what you think you're going to get out of it. A lot of people think college is a magic bullet - an automatic route to a good/fulfilling career. But if you don't sincerely enjoy the kind of academic work you have to do, it's going to be less rewarding, more expensive, and less immediately obvious what you'll be able to do next in terms of work. There are not a million job options for sociology degree holders who don't even like sociology that much. If you really, really want t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 07:41 PM |
| 3 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?I'm very lucky - I'm usually working with N. meningitidis, which, while it needs attention, is a lot more short-term rewarding! Fingers crossed, greater general public awareness of antibiotic resistance will help to bring attention/funding before things go off the rails. I'm more hopeful than I have any right to be, lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 07:35 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Sexually, women don't care about a man's career or wealthMen with good careers are often more sexually attractive because of the same qualities that make them good at their jobs. You're right, that's why I said 'often' and not 'always'. The contribution that certain qualities make to career advancement is a mitigating factor in the seemingly straightforward 'women are attracted to money/success' story that is often told. Women are also attracted to '[list of qualities that make a man a better hire/option for promotion]'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (18 November 2018)Cleaning up some loose ends as I get ready to head home for Thanksgiving, just got a text from my dad that my freshly-learner's-permit-having little brother will be picking me up from the airport. Vertigo!! He's fifteen!!! AAAAAAA! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 06:53 PM |
| 5 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?Thanks, I appreciate it! Life is alright, a little stress now will go a long way later, and I really do have an amazing boyfriend and wonderful friends/family. I wouldn't be able to do what I do if I didn't. I feel for the people in my age cohort who want to do this kind of thing but can't sustain it/miss out on other parts of life as a result, or whose goals are just unrealistic/leading them deeper into debt. I've gotten very lucky in that the jobs I work are relevant to the career I want and a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 06:51 PM |
| 5 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?We're looking at the mechanism by which tuberculosis has developed resistance to rifamycin antibiotics, which has mostly been studied in areas with huge TB epidemics (not the US) but raises potential problems for other infections for which rifamycin antibiotics are involved in treatment, particularly meningitis and anthrax. Outside of an epidemic, the 'drug resistance' isn't the hugest problem, yet, but with meningococcus popping up in colleges/communal housing and the threat of anthrax attacks,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 06:43 PM |
| 12 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?I'm afraid you and I will have to agree to disagree on whether or not men are capable of loving women reciprocally and growing mutually in relationships. I have a higher opinion of men, it seems, than you do. My children will be raised by a 25-28 year old mother who loves them and their father more than anything else on earth, and they'll be read the same poetry and sung the same songs that my SAHF sang to me, and they'll have their grandparents living in the house with us (I'm a big proponent o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 06:14 PM |
| 12 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?I actually really love my boyfriend. It's possible to love a man who's not paying you to do so. I'll graduate without loans, because I work now. I choose to make my life stressful in the moment so that my near future won't include debt hanging over me, and so that once I finish my education, I'll be able to balance work and life the way I want to. Not everyone my age has made the same choices I have, which was the point of my post. The way society is structured makes it necessary for most young … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 05:53 PM |
| 12 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?Just a brag. The work I do is useful to ongoing human existence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 05:45 PM |
| 3 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?A PhD in biochemistry, actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 05:38 PM |
| 8 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?Not as well as it can be done by me, or men would have done it already. The day I meet a man who can do my job better than I can is the day I hand him my lab coat and move on to a different job that optimizes my utility to society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 05:38 PM |
| 15 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?I'm plenty good looking, though I appreciate your concern. I'm taking advantage of my youth to help develop solutions to antibiotic resistance, and I hope someday that you, your husband, or your children can benefit as a result of my wasted time. I'm sure that you will have a much easier time maintaining your looks and marriage if you aren't dead or infirm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 05:36 PM |
| 10 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?If no one wanted to stress over education the way I do the rest of you could make do with untreated cancer and antibiotic-resistant tuberculosis. I work hard because I want to make the world a safer place for people like you who couldn't take care of themselves for half a second if you didn't have the things that people like me endure 'stressful broke lives' to create. Many of the luxuries you enjoy come from people - including women - like me, who recognize that for the world to get better, som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 05:30 PM |
| 37 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?I was talking to my boyfriend about this just the other night - his theory is that fewer young marriages = fewer young people having regular sex, as people generally have the most sex when they're married. My accompanying theory is it's a shitty time to be a young person economically, I'm working three jobs to avoid racking up student loan debt, I have no idea when I'll be able to afford a house - my parents always hoped I'd be financially better off than they were, but I'm not, at the moment, d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 04:50 PM |
| 19 | CMV: Sexually, women don't care about a man's career or wealthA man with a good career, unless he comes from money, came by that career due to his capability, charisma, intelligence, and persistence. It's an 'honest signal' of his qualities as a partner. Men with good careers are often more sexually attractive because of the same qualities that make them good at their jobs. Hard to extricate the two. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 04:37 PM |
| 7 | Q4W: Do you actively seek "orbiters"?I have no male friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 02:14 AM |
| 6 | Getting messages from girls are always the same --> :) OR " seen " OR replying 1,5 - 2 days later onlyIf the whole situation is 'polite but perfunctory, then left on read/unreplied', she's probably not chomping at the bit to be his friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 02:12 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?Hm. As an 'anybody', if I wanted to circumvent my own autonomy, I'd target my sense of pragmatism. If it were easy enough to find one man who met a threshold of kindness to me and difficult enough to leave that relationship, I would stay in that relationship forever. As long as I wasn't being actively harmed or prevented from doing my work, I don't think I'd be riled enough about the lack of 'choice' to do much about it. I don't actually place a huge value on my 'choice' of partner selection. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 08:40 PM |
| 6 | Getting messages from girls are always the same --> :) OR " seen " OR replying 1,5 - 2 days later onlyPeople reply, respond with questions, and laugh at jokes even if they're not interested because they're being polite. Once they stop responding, they're no longer being polite, which sucks, but they are being more honest, so... tradeoffs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Why does it seem there are so many men afraid to criticize women?It seems like there are so many men afraid to criticize women because you are specifically seeking out examples that validate a perspective you've determined based on your own feelings. We 'hold back' on criticism all the time. I don't criticize men I work with unless it's absolutely necessary because I don't want them to be mad at me or think I'm throwing my weight around for no reason, I don't criticize my little brother unless it's absolutely necessary because he's a teenager and I know he's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 08:31 PM |
| 3 | Q4BOTH - What is some genuinely advice from the other sideThe way BP deals with orbiters is 'if you don't want to orbit, don't orbit'. If you give a go at approaching in a romantic-type capacity and it doesn't work out, don't hang around in the hopes that you can convince her. Either approach and figure out what to do from there or don't approach and don't complain when she doesn't read your mind and realize your friendship is a covert contract. 'She's a person and she can only be expected to work with the information she has about your intentions, des… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 08:21 PM |
| 4 | Q4BOTH - What is some genuinely advice from the other sideNo, not really, it would be hard to argue that 'persist until you convince her' is a BP tenet. BP explicitly opposes this part of RP, the 'push until you get a yes, she probably wants an excuse to say yes' approach that suggests one person can know the other's feelings better than that person can. BP says 'if she says no, she means no, walk it off and move on.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Women are not as interested in casual sex, and that blew my mind?Sex is a lot more likely to be satisfying for a woman in the context of an LTR. Conventional female 'attraction' relies at least somewhat on security and comfort/ability to relax in a partner's presence; difficult to achieve in an ONS. Sex outside of a committed relationship poses more physical and sociocultural risks to a woman than a man. It's not that you're stupid, but if you're not a woman, this may not be intuitive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 01:51 AM |
| 19 | Q4BOTH - What is some genuinely advice from the other sideI generally lean blue pill when answering these sorts of questions, but I think both 'communities' are pretty ill-advised in practice and don't align with either, so I'll answer both. RP good advice: working on yourself/building your own intrinsic sense of value outside of women is extremely important, and I think this is an under-appreciated part of RP thought. Be proud of your lifting, your job, your friend group... just generally find ways to build your 'value' and you'll like yourself more. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 12:42 AM |
| 2 | Do women sometimes like when you don't agree with them? Every GF or crush has been more Conservative than me for example.My boyfriend definitely has different beliefs than I do. I appreciate that he cares about different things but still approaches issues with compassion and is interested in learning more. I'm a lab rat, he's a political statistician, I'm a registered independent, he's worked on several different democrats' campaigns but leans much further left. We're at an anarchist bookstore right now and he's in his element, about to buy an armful of books, while I stick out like a sore thumb. I appreciate that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL :Where and how did you meet your current or most recent partner?We became friends through an interscholastic academic competition, despite living in different states, and stayed in touch. A few years later, time and place were right! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 08:59 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (18 November 2018)Got some great climbing and hiking done this weekend, pet some awesome trail dogs, spent the cold nights in a cozy little airbnb cabin with my boyfriend, cooked a lot... 95% of it with no internet connection/cell service. The best couple of days I've had in a long time. Covered in bruises but sort of looking forward to getting back to work with renewed fortitude! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What percentage of men are worth dating? Q4Men: What percentage of women are worth dating?I personally would date about... 5% of men, probably. I would rather be single than dating someone who isn't uniquely well-suited as a partner. I think that plenty of men would get very tired of me once the shiny appearance wore off, and I'm not interested in boring/annoying someone or being bored/annoyed by them. Better to avoid that if possible. 100% of people would make someone uniquely happy as a partner by virtue of their personal identity and experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: How unnattractive is a quiet guy?My boyfriend, in social settings, is an extremely quiet person. Around unfamiliar people, he's the 'barely speak unless spoken to' type. I'm fine with that; I'm an introvert myself, but I'm down to pick up the slack in social situations, and he has fascinating things to say once he's comfortable enough to speak up. I don't think his quietness has ever counted against him with me, though he definitely hasn't had as much RP-defined success with women as he might have if he were a little more willi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 08:40 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: For those of you currently not in a committed relationship, are you on birth control?Second this. The pill sent me off the rails for the month I was on it in high school. I got an IUD once I had the opportunity. Makes periods so much more manageable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/18 02:42 AM |
| 3 | What is the difference between being needy and being vulnerable?'I give her enough to believe I'm being open because ill were totally truthful about how afraid or out of control I feel, she would judge me.' I sympathize a lot with this, but I don't think this is a uniquely male/masculine problem. On the list of things I would absolutely never tell anyone, including my boyfriend who I love and trust and respect beyond measure: I had a severe eating disorder in high school and tried to starve myself to death more than once, when I was a kid I stepped on a liza… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/18 10:10 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (11 November 2018)I'm so amped up right now, I just have to get through two more hellishly overscheduled days and then I have a four-day weekend away with my boyfriend. We split up the planning so I put together two days and he put together two days and I've been keeping my itinerary a surprise and he's doing the same (we've booked a cabin in the middle of nowhere so it's unlikely we'll end up going to the same museum or something, just like packed picnics/dinner ideas and hikes/climbing spots we want to hit kind… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 04:07 PM |
| 3 | How do you mate guard?Only the best you've ever had. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 03:55 PM |
| 1 | How do you mate guard?I'll date a pushy northeastern woman but I will not share with one, that's a losing bet for me. Kill me slowly, it'll be hotter that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 03:35 PM |
| 4 | How do you mate guard?It's funny - he's somewhat well known in a particular online feminist/leftist community, and most of the kind of heart-twisty moments for me are when people fawn over him in these contexts. "Just wait till I have to rescue you when you get Misery'd," I complain. "You're going to be so grateful that you're dating me and not someone who could be described as your 'fan'. Mark my words. I'll rescue you but I'll be so insufferable about it on the drive home." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 03:33 PM |
| 4 | Tinder and Venmo: Betabucks or something different?My friend put her Venmo on Tinder and set her preferences to men and made ten bucks before she got banned. She's also gay and generally just doesn't like men very much but does like money and wanted to see if it would work after noticing it on a few girls' profiles. I watched her do it. It lasted about half an hour. I think at this point a lot of the people doing it are just in it for the fuck of it rather than with the expectation of using it as an income source. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 02:50 PM |
| 4 | Common Arguments against the Impact of SexbotsInstructions were unclear. Dick has been torn off inside the engine. Please call an ambulance, but not one of those slutty Mercedes ambulances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 02:44 PM |
| 2 | Common Arguments against the Impact of SexbotsThat's the dream! Just me and my pals the outdated/abandoned sexbots, taking over the world, but politely! Then, humanity will know a lasting peace that will endure for a thousand years. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 02:42 PM |
| 6 | How do you mate guard?My boyfriend is good-looking, but also has resting murderer face and his affect with people that he doesn't know often convinces people he thinks they're very stupid. I love him and his scary neutral face so much. It's lucky that he's good at shutting down unwanted interest on his own, because despite my efforts, I'm about as intimidating as a bucket of ducklings and predisposed to politeness. My mild southern-lady passive aggression doesn't work very well on northeastern types, who do not fear … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 02:41 PM |
| 2 | Where do these Blue Pill Platitudes come from?This advice is given under the assumption that the recipient's goal is not simply to accumulate lays, but to find a monogamous life partner. It's not intended for someone who does not consider that their objective. There are some people who will be attracted to you and some people who won't be attracted to you no matter what you do. Some people are really, really good fits for your lifestyle and needs and desires and ability to meet their own needs and desires. Some people just aren't. This is u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 09:38 AM |
| 10 | Common Arguments against the Impact of SexbotsI'm going to start a shelter for sex robots and care for them the same way I care for my lab's fucked up old HPLC. I love that stupid, awful, dysfunctional piece of shit, and I will die maintaining it (partially because we can't afford a new one, partially because I'm pathetically attached to the first machine I ever learned to Fix on my own). Based on this, I think the abandoned or messed up sex robots and I will get along very well and together we will lead a pacifist revolution. With full sin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 09:16 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: What was the longest unbroken period of time you went without having sex? Why?About a year - between late July of 2016 and some time summer 2017. I was (and still am) in college. I was busy and had a lot of health stuff going on that was tearing apart my internal organs but I was ignoring that in favor of getting really good at organic chemistry/making friends once I got lonely. I changed treatments in early 2017 and started seeing someone once it started working and I'd successfully finished orgo II and landed a summer position and eventually we had sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 05:19 AM |
| 1 | Are women more assertive than men?Read the link. The two can be quite well-equated in the context of this research. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/18 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Cuddle Buddies: Woke, Broke, or Joke?I spent a year fully single, in what any manosphere guy would call 'monk mode', and by the end, rather than diving back into dating, I decided that what would make me happier was to make a lot of platonic female friends. As we all got closer we would just get together and cuddle up and braid each others' hair and try youtube massage tutorials and it sounds very juvenile but it was amazing and I'm still very close friends with all of them. Some of the most comforting and rewarding relationships i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/18 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Seeking Insecure WomenI don't often accuse anyone of anything if I can avoid it, but when I judge a man to be looking for an insecure woman, my view is that he's the type of hypogamous man who's looking for a partner based on how big/strong/wealthy/capable he looks in comparison. Some men fall into the pattern of validating themselves by how much better/smarter/more capable they are than their female partner. That's somewhat disadvantageous, theoretically, in a 'SMV' context, for a woman like me, who's college educat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/18 10:09 PM |
| 2 | How does someone get to be a "nice guy"?"Nice Guys" with quotes, in my experience and under the definition I use, are people (I've been nice-guyed by lesbians, though they're most commonly male) with dysfunctional learned attitudes about relationships, specifically that their 'giving' more as they define it will automatically result in someone 'giving' more back, also as the Nice Guy defines it. The example is the person who comments on all of your posts/likes all of your tweets immediately, watches all of your stories... and believes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/18 09:44 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (11 November 2018)I'm not sure this is reflective of reality or otherwise a consistent pattern beyond a selectively-observed one. Are you drawing a comparison between a study referring to an ancient genetic bottleneck that's been used to justify the application of the Pareto principle to mating habits to... your perception of the ratio of men to women in PPD? Or do you think 20% of the men here are passing around most PPD women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 11:40 PM |
| 5 | What modern women actually do all lackThat's quite a different statement than 'that's cos marriage rates are declining'. Divorce rates are not getting lower because marriage rates are getting lower, they're being reduced because of who specifically is getting married and a fundamental sociocultural shift in the meaning of marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 11:35 PM |
| 8 | For lesbian/bi women, do you feel that redpill concepts apply to your dating life?Most of RP is very, very, very gendered. I'm a bi woman and I don't find RP principles any more or less applicable in my relationships with men vs women. Things that almost always 'work', independent of gender, are self-improvement, maintaining decent looks, having a life, and putting yourself out there to meet people rather than languishing at home complaining. But a lot of RP relies on the idea that this isn't something women can do or want to do - they're quite explicit about being a male sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Q4w how do you avoid being pumped and dumped?I don't have sex with people who don't like me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 08:53 PM |
| 6 | Dead bedrooms don't existI mean, sometimes the wife doesn't want to have sex with them - sometimes it's the wife rejecting the advances, and in that case, just having sex with her isn't going to help anything. There's a word for having sex with someone who doesn't want to have sex with you, and it's also a crime. To 'fix' the situation, it's important to 1) identify the actual rather than the general problem (sure, you're not having sex and that sucks - why not?) 2) share the conversation with the partner 3) engage with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 08:43 AM |
| 12 | Dead bedrooms don't existSometimes people get into a pattern of not having sex and it becomes difficult to break that pattern, on both ends. If you stop hanging out with a friend for a while, it becomes awkward the next time you see them, so you may end up avoiding them... people don't want to feel uncomfortable, and sometimes it's more comfortable to ignore a problem than to deal with it. 'Dead bedrooms' are a broad spectrum of bedrooms, some of which may look like the bedroom you describe, but some of which are dead b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 08:32 AM |
| 3 | What modern women actually do all lackI'm glad to hear you're doing well! Your comment was a little incoherent, which is why I ask. My weekend was fine, I picked up some extra hours in advance of taking a full weekend off this coming weekend to go on a hiking trip with my boyfriend, so I've been productive but low-key. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 08:27 AM |
| 3 | What modern women actually do all lackAre you feeling okay? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 08:19 AM |
| 10 | Are women more assertive than men?In the study cited in the article I linked, the way they explain this is that women's anger is seen as reflecting on the woman, while men's anger is seen as reflecting on the situation. So a woman who is angry when you're not angry is probably hysterical (or, as you say, a bitch) which makes her less trustworthy, while a man who is angry when you're not angry must be seeing something about the situation that you're missing, which makes him more trustworthy. Interestingly, I've read about the inv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 08:17 AM |
| 15 | Are women more assertive than men?I think that a lot of women - not all, but most - spend more time thinking about why they feel the way they feel than most men do. Some of this is the aforementioned punishment for emotional displays by women; if I'm angry, I have to think very carefully about how to express that anger, why I feel that anger, is it even worth it to share my anger if I'm only going to be held in less regard as a result? If every time you paused for a very long time in a conversation, people thought that you were … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 07:41 AM |
| 22 | Are women more assertive than men?Some women are more assertive, some men are more assertive. I'm not shocked that the scale seems to tip more towards women in this research, but in the long term I think that women are socialized not to act assertively in the same way that men act assertively. Particularly when it comes to the expression of anger, male anger is a legitimizing force while female anger makes the woman in question less persuasive and easier to disregard. Not because of differential expression patterns: in computer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 06:46 AM |
| 9 | What modern women actually do all lackIf the only explanation was 'marriage rates are declining', divorce rates would remain static, as there would be fewer divorces in equal measure. Fewer marriages are being entered, but the marriages being entered are lasting. People who otherwise would have married and divorced are not getting married at all. The purpose of the article is to explain this claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 06:26 AM |
| 5 | Are women's standards for men in regards to relationships too high, too low, or just about right?What works is what works. Different standards relative to their own perceived value may be productive for different women who are looking for different things in a partnership. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 02:50 AM |
| 12 | What modern women actually do all lackDivorce rates are declining, there are plenty of humble women but few of them post here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 02:47 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Why do people act like the "Nice Guy" strategy doesn't work?Have you read my comment? I included examples of the reasoning behind 'nice guy strategy' looking, coming off, and being, in essence, different than a nice guy who likes your friendship and would like to be your partner at some point, though you've ignored this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 12:17 AM |
| 1 | What are the major flaws in red pill theory?Humanism is a hell of a drug! Glad to hear that your truth-seeking is going well and that you are confident in its applicability. Best of luck out there! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Dress codes are not "sexist". Girls who violate them areYeah, exactly. That is exactly what I'm saying. Dress codes are tools that are frequently used to enforce classism and that can contribute to the limitation of lower income students' access to the educational tools that will allow them to be socioeconomically mobile and contribute to society someday. That was the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 12:10 AM |
| 1 | What are the major flaws in red pill theory?I'm glad you find them useful! That's my intention. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Dress codes are not "sexist". Girls who violate them arePerhaps you haven't been to high school recently, but cheerleaders are required to wear their uniforms to all classes on game days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Dress codes are not "sexist". Girls who violate them areIf you read my comment more closely, it's very much on the subject of what system of dress management contributes more to success in a work environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Dress codes are not "sexist". Girls who violate them areI would agree here, and elaborate that based on all of my anecdotal experience with workplace codes of conduct, men and women don't have different levels of difficulty adhering. Most dress codes are quite reasonable. My lab requires me to wear close-toed shoes without heels that fully cover my feet up to the ankles, to have my arms and legs covered, my hair up, and my lab coat/eye protection/gloves on when appropriate and off/stored when I'm not working. There are justifications for all of these… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 11:55 PM |
| 1 | Dress codes are not "sexist". Girls who violate them areNo, it's much more like saying 'you are in school to learn, you are employed contingent on both your successfully having learned and your ability to recognize and follow rules. there are other opportunities in school to learn to follow rules, and none of that matters if a kid isn't in school at all because of a bunch of power-drunk middle-school bureaucrats flexing their administrative muscle to punish poor and unconventional-looking kids.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 11:41 PM |
| 5 | Dress codes are not "sexist". Girls who violate them areMiddle/high school is not a professional environment. Enforcement is wildly slanted towards poor students, not necessarily female students. I dressed 'nicely' but out of dress code and was never coded. Meanwhile, young men and women whose clothing reflected a lower socioeconomic class position were policed. It's a stupid system that interferes with people's schooling far more than bare shoulders. Require students to show up clothed, offer them clothes if they don't. Anything else is a system of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 11:20 PM |
| 8 | What are the major flaws in red pill theory?For most "truths" about women there are "truths" about men, both being human. People want the best possible partner within their means, though the paradigms by which they judge fitness are informed by different sociocultural conditioning. Most people want to help other humans who are hurting; some people purposefully do harm. As long as we assign and enforce gender roles, men and women will act differently, But people, generally, are unbelievably adaptable. Our greatest evolutionary advantage is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 11:06 PM |
| 2 | You can’t complain about “nice guy tokens” if you try to use “sex tokens” for commitmentI'm not going to pull up quotes from a community you seem to think you understand far better than I do, but 'dread' is a tool employed with versatility in a variety of relationships, from one night stands to approaches to marriages, as you'd see if you word-searched it in TRP. 'Comfort', the flip side, is the use of gestures to reaffirm commitment and support and safety. This is the definition of manipulative: doing a certain thing, not for its apparent ontological purpose, but with the intentio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 06:39 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Why do people act like the "Nice Guy" strategy doesn't work?Have you dated all of your friends? Obviously you liked them, to be friends with them. Most of the time, as I get to know someone, I start to find things that, in a different sort of relationship, could raise problems between us. A friend who's a great rock climbing buddy but shuts down and gets defensive the second we talk politics. A friend who's really great to talk with but doesn't understand why I bother to spend to much time working out and thinks it's weird. A friend who's generally reall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 06:28 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many women on Reddit (TwoX, etc) exaggerate how often they are 'assaulted', catcalled, harassed, discriminated against, etc?There's a phenomenon called 'masochistic epistemology' - what hurts must be true. In communities founded on common suffering, further suffering often becomes a form of social capital while attempts to avoid suffering result in exclusion. For example, incels glory in the worst possible conception of the world - everything is hopeless, my position in society is absolute, I have no hope to improve and neither does the existing way we do things. People get parasocial support for saying things that s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 04:35 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Why do people act like the "Nice Guy" strategy doesn't work?The problem with the 'quote a snippet of the paragraph' thing is that you don't seem to be reading the paragraphs. I was explaining that, to successfully transition from being friends with someone to being in a relationship with them, you have to be willing to be friends with them without having sex. I was drawing a distinction between this and the 'nice guy strategy', which is to throw as much platonic attention as possible at someone all at once without getting to know them beyond, usually, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 03:36 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Why do people act like the "Nice Guy" strategy doesn't work?No need to be rude. Where did I assume that? I thought I drew quite a clear distinction between the 'strategic nice guy' (trying to occupy a woman's time and attention under the assumption that the more attention you pay to her the more she'll reciprocate) and the 'actual friend who might be attracted to his friend'. Strategic nice guy isn't a good friend, and ends up kept at arm's length because he's not acting like a good friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 03:25 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Why do people act like the "Nice Guy" strategy doesn't work?Sure, that line in isolation makes my argument sound very limited. Do you object to the whole comment, or just the fraction of the sentence starting the second paragraph'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 03:19 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Why do people act like the "Nice Guy" strategy doesn't work?What I'm saying is that trying to be tricksy and becoming an everyday part of someone's life won't make them like you. More attention != better shot at getting with a person. The 'nice guy' approach is trying to take up so much of her time that you edge out anyone else who might be competing for it, usually before you've even gotten to know her beyond one-sided pining. On the other hand, if you actually enjoy a woman's company, being friends with her doesn't eliminate your romantic prospects, ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 03:09 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Why do people act like the "Nice Guy" strategy doesn't work?The answer is: it depends on how the 'ulterior motive' manifests. Plenty of friendships start with people wishing they could get with someone hot and cool and interesting, getting to know them better, and realizing 'oh wow, this hot, cool, interesting person is also the best bouldering partner and somehow always knows how to fix my phone and is like the only person I've ever met who shares my passionate love of Verdi's requiem', at which point it doesn't matter if she's, say, got a girlfriend, s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 03:00 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Why do people act like the "Nice Guy" strategy doesn't work?I'm not sure what about my statement you disagree with here. For example: someone recently started interacting with all of my tweets. Then, a few days ago, I met up with the group of friends I climb with and there's the person in question. I was like... okay, I do tweet about the climbing group in the hopes that more people will come and get certified with us so we can coordinate bigger trips and group memberships and whatnot, it's exciting to help newbies get started... and they seemed perfectl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 02:43 AM |
| 1 | Mother's right VS fetus right (asking both red and blue)Please don't worry, I totally understand the assumption! Thank you again for your well wishes, and generally all the best to you!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 02:09 AM |
| 8 | CMV: Why do people act like the "Nice Guy" strategy doesn't work?At least five times over my distinguished fourish-years of dating I've entered a capital-R-Relationship with someone I previously considered exclusively a friend. My current boyfriend and I have been friends-ish since high school and only fairly recently decided to take the plunge and try a relationship, and it's been really great! To challenge your view, though: people can generally tell when someone is befriending them with an ulterior motive. It works if you sincerely like the person and are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 02:08 AM |
| 2 | Mother's right VS fetus right (asking both red and blue)Thank you so much! The chemo is currently the only thing that's working to fight a spiraling autoimmune disease, previously diagnosed as Crohn's-colitis but now seemingly affecting pretty much all of my other systems. I'm doing great with treatment, responding amazingly well, healthier than I've been since elementary school, but autoimmune issues can have really weird interactions with pregnancies, not to mention the drugs, so we'll see what the future holds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 01:38 AM |
| 1 | How can one maintain interest without coming as desperate?I did the same thing a few years back - wish you the best of luck, it was one of the most important choices I've ever made! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 11:02 PM |
| 7 | You can’t complain about “nice guy tokens” if you try to use “sex tokens” for commitmentAnyone can be exploited or coerced once someone who wants what they have to offer identifies the correct leverage. This is not a 'good' thing, it's a thing. Situational variation means that it's generally hard to tell who's being exploited with only a general knowledge of the situation. Men and women can and do exploit each other. That's my point, glad we agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 10:37 PM |
| 8 | You can’t complain about “nice guy tokens” if you try to use “sex tokens” for commitmentOne could say the same thing about male 'orbiters'. Their expectations about how the world works make them vulnerable to exploitation; someone who wants something from the exploits that. It's not a moral thing to do, but it's done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 10:12 PM |
| 5 | You can’t complain about “nice guy tokens” if you try to use “sex tokens” for commitmentYou do have the right to say words in whatever order you like, but is there a particular part of the statement you disagree with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 09:31 PM |
| 11 | You can’t complain about “nice guy tokens” if you try to use “sex tokens” for commitmentI'm talking about TRP philosophy specifically, which involves implementing dread (fear of being left for a better option) and rewarding 'good behavior' with the illusion of commitment or otherwise 'choosing' a plate to move on to an LTR based on who serves you better. I'm speaking of this here in neutral terms, as an example of a way that men can manipulate women's expectations to have more sex with them than they would if they did not execute the manipulative behavior patterns. That seems to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 08:44 PM |
| 14 | You can’t complain about “nice guy tokens” if you try to use “sex tokens” for commitmentYou're right, spinning plates has nothing to do with alluding to a future commitment in order to incentivize preferred behavior. That would be manipulative and underhanded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 08:13 PM |
| 3 | Off Topic Thread: Election 2018 (10 November 2018)The Democrats didn't flip near as many House seats as they'd hoped, so I'd be hesitant to call it the 'blue wave'. The races I was excited about didn't go the way I was hoping, but they were very close. There were a few candidates whose messages really resonated and who I thought would do a good job, so it was disappointing not to see them win. A politician who's actively and specifically antagonized the research institution where I work, accusing us of 'undermining' his policies with climate da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 07:47 PM |
| 3 | Mother's right VS fetus right (asking both red and blue)I'm in kind of a weird position on this, because I personally would not want to have an abortion if I could at all avoid it, but if I were to get pregnant, the odds are pretty good that it would become a choice between abortion and death, the fetus' or my own or both. My abdomen is choked with scar tissue and my organs have all been heavily irradiated. I'm currently on chemotherapy that requires me to be checked for pregnancy every time it's administered because it's a known abortifacient and te… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 07:36 PM |
| 24 | You can’t complain about “nice guy tokens” if you try to use “sex tokens” for commitmentI don't think it's a controversial opinion that 'different forms of manipulation/subtle coercion in an attempt to get something another person doesn't want to give you are all generally shitty and disrespectful.' The uninterested-in-commitment guy might say 'maybe if we have sex often enough, you can change my mind ;)' - this is a specific strategy that TRP endorses, and if the woman 'falls for it', it being the guy capitalizing on her feelings to get sex from her, it's shitty in the sense that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Why Should Men Accept Women After Their "Change"?"If I touch a pot one time, and it's hot, I should never touch a pot again, because generalizing all pots based on the fact that some pots, sometimes, are hot, is a useful means of understanding the world." - Albert Einstein I'm not saying that you need to date women you don't like, I'm saying it might be useful to try to break down why you didn't like those women beyond 'she was/she probably was promiscuous in her youth'. This would serve you better, ESTJ or not. You could identify other patter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Why Should Men Accept Women After Their "Change"?I'm curious what you think is 'shaming language'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Why Should Men Accept Women After Their "Change"?I'm talking about the application of bias to dating/relationships, not to the acquisition of goods and services, such as surgery. If I meet someone and they seem awesome but then I learn that they're a surgeon... if I meet someone and they seem awesome but then I learn that they went to my high school, and a lot of people who went to my high school were mean to me... if I meet someone and they seem awesome but then I learn they have a past I'd consider promiscuous... If I let [trait/identity I h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 04:37 PM |
| 2 | Why Should Men Accept Women After Their "Change"?I admire the men on this sub who have put themselves out there to such an extent in their twenties that they've been rejected by every twenty-something woman in their potential dating field at 35. Women who haven't met you and haven't been dating you for a decade haven't been implicitly rejecting you every time they wake up and don't decide to spontaneously throw themselves at your feet, they've been busy or in an LTR or traveling or focusing on self improvement or figuring out their career path… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Why Should Men Accept Women After Their "Change"?I'm talking about dating surgeons, my friend. If you want to switch analogies, this one doesn't work, unless you're talking about a 'changed' 30-year-old woman who used to be a serial killer. Reading my comment in good faith might help, as that was the perspective I was taking when I wrote it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 02:01 PM |
| 2 | CMV: We need to suspend the right to fair trial for males accused of rape by womenHis own evidence suggests otherwise. Unfortunately, he hasn't read it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 04:52 AM |
| 1 | CMV: We need to suspend the right to fair trial for males accused of rape by womenThe content of the post isn't even consistent with the content of the articles you cite as evidence, let alone between one paragraph and another or with anything you've ever said here previously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 04:46 AM |
| 3 | CMV: We need to suspend the right to fair trial for males accused of rape by womenEvery interaction I've ever had with you, mostly, and also the content of the post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 04:35 AM |
| 3 | CMV: We need to suspend the right to fair trial for males accused of rape by womenYou must personally hold the belief. You must be open to having your view challenged. This means that you must act in a way that demonstrates that you are willing to have your view challenged. Moderators do not have access to your internal mental state, but we can infer your intent from your posts and comments. 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 04:33 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (04 November 2018)Congratulations! I wish you two all the love and happiness and good fortune in the world. My mom worked while my dad stayed at home and I was the luckiest child, having the two of them both doing what they did best and what made them happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 03:44 AM |
| 4 | CMV: A women choosing a stable guy as she gets older is not because of any diabolical motivations, but is a result of her growing maturation.Okay, just checking, because you didn't seem to be responding to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 02:31 AM |
| 2 | CMV: A women choosing a stable guy as she gets older is not because of any diabolical motivations, but is a result of her growing maturation.Did you read my comment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 02:29 AM |
| 13 | CMV: A women choosing a stable guy as she gets older is not because of any diabolical motivations, but is a result of her growing maturation.There are plenty of reasons for a woman to be single at thirty and want something different than she did when she was single at 20. She's just finished her PhD, she's had an aging parent to take care of who's passed away, she's moved on to a different friend group with different norms, and seeing her happy friends, she thinks 'maybe the right guy and I could make that together', she couldn't figure out the right career/city for her as a twenty-something and now she's found where she wants to mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 02:22 AM |
| 7 | CMV: A women choosing a stable guy as she gets older is not because of any diabolical motivations, but is a result of her growing maturation.Let me set a scene: I'm a woman, single even though I'm like thirty because I spent so much time absorbed in my PhD studies, going out on a first date with a guy who seems nice, we're talking, the conversation is flowing, he asks about what my time at college was like after we decide on a wine order. "oh," I laugh, "I guess I was a little less career focused than I am now, I had my share of fun... now I can barely imagine spending a Friday night after a full work day and hitting the gym in the e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 01:34 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (04 November 2018)Tried to make chicken marsala like my dad did when I was a kid, followed the recipe and succeeded but it wasn't the same, got sad and called my parents to pitifully tell them I miss them even though I'm flying down to visit them in literally two weeks. Also one of my climbing buddies brought along a 'new friend who recently moved to the area' to our meetup today and she's my old linear algebra professor's new wife. :o | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 12:38 AM |
| 2 | Why Should Men Accept Women After Their "Change"?Most people think I'm an extrovert in person, but that's mainly because my work in the lab lets me compartmentalize a lot/have a lot of time to myself, and my personality is quite cheerful. I'm an INFJ, if that tells you anything - also a debate coach, and an RA, so it's my job to resolve conflicts by encouraging people towards the truth and away from their preexisting biases. Someday it'll just be me and my HPLC in a cool dark room for eight hours a day, but for now I need the cash from other j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Being directly sexual is considered creepy and pretending to be friends with a girl just to get sex is also considered wrong. If both of these methods are wrong then how are you supposed to go about showing interest?There are times and circumstances where it's appropriate to ask someone out quite directly and times when it's not. Sometimes discernment requires social judgement. We should teach people more about social dynamics from an early age. One of my friends growing up had autism, but his mom, who taught more severely autistic children for her work, taught him how to identify 1) three feet of personal space 2) how to back off when he was preventing someone from moving away from him and identify their d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 11:48 PM |
| 2 | Why Should Men Accept Women After Their "Change"?It's because I'm making an analogy. And ideally 'not being a dick to a subset of the population on spec' is something we should all be working on not doing. Maybe it's fun and cathartic to make fun of women who we feel have rejected us, but it sets us up to be crueler and less rational people. We should strive to be 1) kind 2) objectively correct, and by working on our biases, we can do both. Even if I don't want to fuck women who've had a lot of sex, I don't need to be a dick about it any more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Why Should Men Accept Women After Their "Change"?thank you, I'm working on it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Why Should Men Accept Women After Their "Change"?Glad to be of service! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 07:50 PM |
| 10 | Why Should Men Accept Women After Their "Change"?There are other similar cans of worms that boil down to the argument: is it okay to reject someone based on [immutable fact about them/their lifestyle]? The answer is, yes, no one inherently deserves anything from anyone. If I want to reject everyone who's been to med school the second I find that out, due to my intense loathing of surgeons, I'm allowed to do that. No one can or should legally stop me or attempt to coerce me into getting with that doctor. It's my right to say 'no' the same way t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 07:28 PM |
| 8 | Having higher standards as you get older isn’t a bad thing. In fact, that’s what should happen.No offense intended, but I'm trying to imagine a private investigator like, interviewing my high school boyfriend, who is now a med student. "Did she put out, like, immediately? Hm, okay. How long did you wait? Oh.... only three months? And how about blowjobs? I see, she bit your dick the first time she tried because she'd never done it before and after that you wouldn't let her try again, smart man. Wait here, I need to call in this information as soon as possible." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 03:50 PM |
| 8 | Why do feminists say 'men are not entitled to sex' rather than saying 'men are not entitled to love'?Most of the time I see the 'men are not entitled to sex' quote as a response rather than an absolute, since some men do seem to believe that they are entitled to sex, or otherwise as a 'line' that's been repeated so many times as to lose most of it's meaning. In use, it often seems to mean, at this point 'please shut up about why hypergamy or whatever is the reason you've been slighted out of the nubile girl of your dreams and take some responsibility for your situation'. Not a great and persuas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Q4All What do you look like?ppd ladies please get in line there's enough of me to go around | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 03:18 PM |
| 2 | Q4All What do you look like?Here's a picture of my bicep. Getting #jacked is going slowly because of my dysfunctional eating habits while I'm at work. I'm 5'9 and up to 135 lbs, sometimes, but I'm back to square one every time I get close to a deadline. My goal is to confidently back up everything I say with the ability to punch through solid steel, whatever that looks like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 05:53 AM |
| 2 | Q4All What do you look like?Hm, looking in a mirror, if I say that my somewhat extravagant imagination yields simultaneous pictures of an octopus, a dragon, and a human caricature, I shall not be unfaithful to the spirit of the thing. A pulpy, tentacled head surmounts a grotesque and scaly body with rudimentary wings; but it's the general outline of the whole which makes it most shockingly frightful. Also, blonde. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 01:15 AM |
| 1 | What's it like being in a relationship with someone who is busy all the time?My boyfriend and I are both extremely busy people. Recently he's been working 60-hr weeks on a new job and I'm both still a full-time student and juggling multiple part time jobs. We see each other on weekends, mostly. I personally like it a lot. It's a lot better when both partners are busy vs. just one, because it feels 'fair'. We occasionally text, but are both quite terrible about it, but when we're with each other it's awesome and when we're not, we both are confident that we're not isolati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/18 02:41 PM |
| 6 | AMALTPeople, in general, are like that: 'that' being vulnerable to sociocultural norms when it comes to attraction. We don't make our own tastes, in general. We like the food we've been fed all of our lives, and women have Harrison Ford and men have whatever young woman is making doe eyes at Harrison Ford. Age-homogomous couplings are on the rise, though, according to this easily-found study of seniors in Vancouver. Of the 1.7 million senior couples in 2011, 49% were age-homogamous, up from 40% in 19… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/18 02:28 AM |
| 4 | What are the proofs that TRP is incorrect in its assumptions? {Quantitative data only, please}"Statistically it also might not disappear completely, just substantially be reduced" isn't the gotcha you think it is. What I'm saying is that women are not unilaterally the relationship-enders - they're more likely to end marriages, but men are just as likely to end relationships. Something about marriage is contributing to relationship-ending by women rather than something about women. Admittedly, my bad - I was going by the serum testosterone low limit for fifty year+ men. My point still sta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/18 02:06 AM |
| 9 | What are the proofs that TRP is incorrect in its assumptions? {Quantitative data only, please}From an old comment of mine re: AWALT Maybe it would help RP practitioners to consider how well 'All Women Are Like That' stacks up in reality. There's some great data that raises interesting questions about whether women being Like That or institutions being Like That may be implicated in certain situations used to bolster the AWALT claim. Women are more likely to initiate divorce, but the disparity disappears in non-marriage breakups. Women's serum testosterone levels vary substantially. The m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/18 09:29 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (04 November 2018)I have a fairly unusual name (very old fashioned, very ethnic) and there's only one other person at my school with the same first name. She's Korean, it's her English name and she runs in very different circles, so we usually don't overlap. So today, I was in line to pay for my coffee from the shop in the science center when two girls walk past mid-conversation and one loudly says 'no, the BLONDE Civil-Seaworthiness'. It's maddening not to know what they were talking about. I hope they were plan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/18 08:29 PM |
| 3 | WWYD Dating Scenario : Unfamiliar House Party EditionI wish more people realized just how far being fun to be around gets people in friendships, relationships, and career stuff as well. And the flip side, if your ego continually wins out over yourself and others having a good time, people close their doors when they see you coming. I dated a guy that most people were very surprised to see me dating for seven months because it was a hilariously stressful time at work/in classes (taking pchem and orgo II on top of near-full-time lab work while all o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/18 08:13 PM |
| 4 | WWYD Dating Scenario : Unfamiliar House Party EditionI was about to ask if that was you but I thought that might be rude if it weren't, oops. If I were the date, he'd have botched it the second he didn't come into the kitchen to help out, and anything other than a pretty quick 'hey, sorry, I didn't realize you had so much to do in the kitchen, I would have helped! [kiss on the cheek] thank you guys for stepping in, I'd hate to think [date] had to do all that alone. Did I hear you talking about crawfish boils?' and then acting like a normal human h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/18 07:50 PM |
| 10 | WWYD Dating Scenario : Unfamiliar House Party EditionWhy was I not helping her in the kitchen? She brought a lot of food and drink and odds are good I'm stronger than she is, I was carrying half of it in, which means I'm likely part of the invitation to the fire pit with the gentlemen and the old friend along with my date, so of course I'm going to hang out there. My objective, though, is to learn more about the old friend and my date in the context of her old friend while also having fun. Ideally I've picked up a little about what Old Friend has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/18 05:29 PM |
| 2 | Do you think people in their late 20s fit in more with college aged people or middle aged people, in terms of relationships?I'm 21 and I already don't feel like I'm in the same life stage as most 18-19 year olds, and almost certainly wouldn't date one. Definitely not a younger man, as I mostly can't stand men who are in their early-college phase. Among myself and most of my friends right now, with a foot in college and a foot out of college, we're not really looking to hang around in the college lifestyle. Another poster mentioned switching from house parties to bars. I have friends who are married (to people they me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/18 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4all Is it true that women are not "biologically hardwired for long term monogamy" ?Sure, there are a lot of biological factors that might account for gendered differences in heritability. 2) was a judgement on the typically presented 'evidence' for biological gendered difference - 'men and women behave differently, either anecdotally or in a study of behavior, which must mean biological differences are at work!' - which does not make any more than a speculated biological connection, and does not fully consider the mechanism or the evolutionary engine behind it. Because disprov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/18 03:36 PM |
| 26 | Q4all Is it true that women are not "biologically hardwired for long term monogamy" ?I'm a biologist, and I've answered this question before based on my perspectives here on PPD. I think the idea of 'biological hardwiring' that differs consistently and predictably between genders, heritably, is 1) hard to study effectively 2) generally hogwash. What constellation of traits we do we mean when we refer to a woman evolutionarily well-suited for success across the ages? She's probably got strong initiative (sought out a high-quality mate, even amongst other potential offers), 'attra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/18 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (04 November 2018)I do appreciate the wise advice, but I'm pretty sure being 21 makes me immortal /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/18 02:44 AM |
| 3 | Is it just me or tall women are often alone and dateless?I agree, though I'm sure it didn't help. She was raised by a fisherman and a waitress in the south. There were few people willing to be friends with a gangly, bookish, dirt-poor girl, let alone who wanted to date her. Her early life was unbelievably lonely. I think there's an extent to which her towering over other kids all her life played into that. Being an extremely tall woman, if one isn't the supermodel type, can create an awkward personality in some ways, especially if class stuff plays in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/18 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Are young women today more likely to be...Hugely context-dependent, I'd say. Even for the same woman month to month or year to year. Most frequently, I have friends who get utterly fed up with the unpleasantness of present-day heterosexual promiscuity and pivot in the other direction/stop wanting to go out entirely. This is at ~20/21, so it's not like they're hitting the wall, just generally the limits of their patience with bad sex/poor communication/the inconvenience of hookup culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 05:15 PM |
| 9 | Is it just me or tall women are often alone and dateless?My mom is 6', but was very socially awkward as a young woman. She didn't date anyone before dating and then marrying my dad, who is 5'10''. Height may have had a role in it. I'm also a tall woman, though not quite so tall (5'9'') and that doesn't make me dislike 'day approaches' any less. It's not that they happen a lot, it's that when they happen, they're inconvenient and unpleasant and not what I want to deal with on my way to work/getting together with a friend/meeting up with my boyfriend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 05:11 PM |
| 7 | Are young women today more likely to be...Other young women have already responded. I would say that the 'pressures' toward repression and performative sexuality are very different. A single casual male partner is likely to push a ONS towards whatever acts he prefers, which are often porn-informed, as a lot of young men get their information on sex from porn. There's a push-back by women who are not, physically, 24/7 lubed-up flexibility-trained porn stars who get off on being surprised by aggressive deepthroating. Depending on the woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Describe your most recent dateI like to know exactly where I stand, which is why I usually do the asking. People tend to assume that if a woman asks them out, she's interested in a relationship. Based on their reaction, I can usually (not in the case I brought up...) tell whether or not the interest is reciprocated, and from there we have a clear path and I'm unlikely to get roped into anything I don't want to do/make an incorrect assumption about what the other person wants. 'Informal dating', to my mind, is the sort of awk… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 02:11 AM |
| 1 | Describe your most recent dateI haven't been single in a good long while, but... geez, I've had two relationships in the last two years but no dates beyond that. I met the last person I dated on Tinder, I asked him if he was interested in meeting at a restaurant near a bus stop that's convenient for me, he said yes, was half an hour late (weirdly the earliest reservation I could get was 9pm, so I was.... not thrilled, but didn't say anything about it) but was really pleasant to talk to. Split the check. We went to a nearby b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 01:45 AM |
| 6 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (04 November 2018)Are most of you in your mid-twenties? I assume you are, but then someone mentions their two children who are practically my age and I think, oh god, I could be arguing fruitlessly with my mom, usually I wait until Thanksgiving to really get into that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/18 11:27 PM |
| 2 | How do I acquire the masculinity that my father miserably failed to teach me?Sounds like you have a lot of contemplation to do if you're so entirely lost when it comes to who you already are. Here are the questions I suggest finding answers to: Is there something you like about yourself? Do you write for fun, enjoy hiking or traveling or a lively argument between friends? Do you have close friends that you like and respect? What parts of your life would you want to share with a partner? What do you hope to gain from a partnership yourself? What do you want to do with you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/18 08:01 PM |
| 1 | How can one maintain interest without coming as desperate?If you have limited time because you're busy, but the busy-ness makes you miserable (you hate your job, your friends aren't great, your hobbies are unsatisfying and unproductive), the reliance on your partner for fulfillment is still going to come off as clingy more often than not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/18 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Is there a noticable pattern regarding the job/career of the people you tend to date?Not at all - people I date have been all over the map. Two people in different kinds of politics-type employment, a musician/model, a premed student, and a programmer. Some of them might have had greater earning potential than mine, some likely lower, probably about the same. I wasn't raised with a lot of money, but some of them were and some of them weren't. All, however, have been exceedingly passionate about their field of choice. That's something I value a lot in a partner, as I love my own … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/18 03:53 AM |
| 6 | Which one is generally easier: To be a man or to be a woman?Different challenges, few absolutes to be had. Men will tell you men have it hardest, women will tell you that women have it hardest - what we can learn from this is that everyone has it hard in some way or another. Some roles are more challenging for some individuals more than others. A lot of people are put into unnecessarily painful situations because of their gender or the perception thereof. Is it 'easier' to be forced to grow up fast or to be permitted to grow up slowly but inevitably surp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/18 12:02 AM |
| 23 | How do I acquire the masculinity that my father miserably failed to teach me?I got lucky enough to have an amazing dad, and I think the most important lesson he ever taught me when it comes to relationships was that you can't love somebody else until you love yourself. He's used every opportunity he's had to push me and my little brother to gain skills and experiences that contribute to our intrinsic value, our ability to understand and accept ourselves, and our ability to find the truth in a sea of conflicting information. Is there something you like about yourself? Do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/18 11:54 PM |
| 6 | A new perspective on dating as a young woman, and the benefits of early sexual activityHopefully some of them will show up on this post, then, and have a response to my question! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/18 06:59 AM |
| 17 | A new perspective on dating as a young woman, and the benefits of early sexual activity1) It's very important to teach/stress to young women that condom use is the only way to reduce the transmission of STIs. Some young women are not aware that other forms of birth control have no efficacy in this regard, or that pregnancy is not the only potential consequence of sex. This makes them very vulnerable when young men try to insist on unprotected sex. For the love of god, teach kids about condoms. The consequences are real to both men and women, of course, but this post focuses on per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/18 06:38 AM |
| 12 | How can one maintain interest without coming as desperate?Have your own life. Practically, make friends, seek out an occupation that doesn't leave you desperate for someone else to entertain and fulfill you, find things that you like to do alone and with company, whether a friend or a partner. Do the work/introspection necessary to find things to love about yourself that you can share with others to be confident in your value and what you have to offer. This goes regardless of gender. To not be desperate, like yourself more than you like your partner. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/18 02:11 AM |
| 30 | Women have been left aimlessThank goodness there's so much to be gained in terms of emotional fulfillment from female friendships, family, and career success. I love my boyfriend dearly, but he isn't the meaning of my life or its aim. I want to create useful things, fix what's broken in the world, and share all the love I have with the people in my life, from my little brother to my grandmother to my best friends to my boyfriend to the interns in my lab when they're having a hard day. It's a good life, if you ask me. I'd l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/18 02:08 AM |
| 3 | If the father was adamant about not wanting a child would you still want it ?If I was dead set on having children (which I am, but in the future) and was with a man who was not, I would stop being in a relationship with that man. If I were already pregnant and he got cold feet, I would sooner have a child on my own than a miserable partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/18 08:54 PM |
| 7 | Instagram model complains of being seen as sexyPeople don't always sell the parts of themselves that they enjoy, and what a person does for work can often become tedious even when it started out as fun. 440k instagram followers is a job, at that point. She's 'feeding' on almost-fame and money, not 'attention' at that scale. It sounds like she doesn't want a relationship with you beyond flattering emails, and it sounds like you like the idea of her and women like her more than you'd actually like dating them. It's easy to be dazzled by someon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/18 07:37 PM |
| 12 | Q4W : Did your husband get the best deal?I was on clearance in the cosmetics aisle of TJ Maxx when my boyfriend found me. If he'd waited another week or two, he could have gotten me for 75% rather than 50% off. Please don't narc on me, he doesn't know how the markdown cycle works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/18 05:38 PM |
| 10 | Why are women more likely to believe in star signs / psychics / paranormal?Upon reading more into your question, I understand you're asking more about specifically the mysticism element - I was a magician's assistant in high school, and in my anecdotal experience, people of whatever gender love the occult if presented convincingly enough. The trick is to trick without making the person feel tricked, or else they hate the magician more than they love the suspension of disbelief - men are much more prone to decide that they hate the magician, and present much more potent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 04:13 PM |
| 2 | Off Topic Thread: Halloween (27 October 2018)I'm going as 'the dark web' to a little shindig with some friends tonight, and to make fun of me for buying way too much bird netting to make my costume, my boyfriend is going as 'a bird net'. This is the man I choose to love beyond all others... In my defense, ten dollars will buy you a LOT of bird netting. A surprising amount. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 03:46 PM |
| 15 | Why are women more likely to believe in star signs / psychics / paranormal?I worked an event last night where I read people's natal charts for three hours (halloween fun) - I'm well-versed in the 'language' because I used to sell natal chart readings for $30 a pop. How very capricorn of me. Genuine answer, as one of Those Women: it's fun, other people know varying amounts about it, being able to speak fluently in astrology is as useful for communicating with other women as knowing about baseball statistics is for communicating with men. A certain subset of people just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What desires do you believe women are predominately socially conditioned to have?Convenient! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 03:48 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What desires do you believe women are predominately socially conditioned to have?No need to be rude. The huge array of biological/evolved social mechanisms discouraging inbreeding would disagree. Preferential breeding for blue eyes results in deafness. Kissing allows a chemical exchange, favoring partners with a different genetic code in their major histocompatibility complex in fertile women. If humans were going to speciate, then the Hapsbergs would be the ones who'd done it, and look how well that shit worked out for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 03:34 PM |
| 1 | How would women behave if they lived in solitude?My first semester at college, I definitely entered this kind of state. It was extremely hard work, balancing keeping myself alive on my own for the first time, working two jobs, and a full courseload. I just opted out of everything that I wasn't paying for/being paid for. I didn't leave high school with many friends and didn't bother making any new acquaintances outside of classes/roommates, and we were cordial but not close. I prefer the enrichment of having other people in my life, but I'm ver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 01:33 AM |
| 2 | Q4BP: What desires do you believe women are predominately socially conditioned to have?Blue but edgy and self important | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 01:21 AM |
| 5 | Q4BP: What desires do you believe women are predominately socially conditioned to have?I think I'm close enough to BP to legitimately answer this question, though I'd never label myself as such. Desires/hetero dating behaviors that I believe are socially conditioned rather than inherent include: -the expectation of submissiveness/agreeableness to male desire (women not being upfront about what they want/being 'passive aggressive'/tricky rather than honest) -racial prejudices in dating (from a purely evolutionary perspective, it should be advantageous to seek out a partner from as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/18 07:30 PM |
| 5 | Was I being a dick here?It looks like they were being snappy, but not necessarily mean. People here have been just as harsh to me when they think I'm being stupid. I don't think you were being stupid or mean-spirited, but I do think that you posted something in a place where it wasn't welcome. The issue they seem to take is the equivalence drawn between 'being a woman' and 'having a [neurological/emotional/cognitive] difference in the way you view the world'. There are two fundamental issues this raises with radfems in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/18 04:10 AM |
| 3 | Concealed ovulation: What does it say about women? What does it say about men?Humans do, chemically, 'signal' fertility. Ovulating human have chemically different scents, alterations to sensory processing, changes to breast size and prominence throughout their cycle. They bleed periodically (ha! jokes!) which signals lack of fertility. We've sacrificed, over time, our sensory ability (sensitivity to chemical changes) - dogs can discern 'heat', humans can't consciously, but display behaviors that suggest they can subconsciously. Culturally, we've concealed the means of dis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/18 12:20 AM |
| 5 | Do you think it is a good idea to listen to a woman you are in a relationship with?Ideally you wouldn't be dating her in the first place if you didn't, like... at least moderately enjoy her company? Honestly, why not break up with a woman if you don't like talking to her? Spare both of you the trouble, don't waste her time or your own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/18 10:51 PM |
| 2 | Is it possible for SAHFs to become more common?My dad was a SAHF for me and for my little brother for a few years - during the recession, he had to go back to work (2008 was rough) but I had the benefit of a SAHF for the first 11 years of my life. Depending on the guy, I think it can be great. The more it happens, the more it will be able to happen. I'll be much more open to marrying a man who wants to SAHF for our kids because I remember how wonderful it was for me to have a dad who was always around - he had studied mathematics and chemist… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/18 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Women don't choose from all men, they choose from the men they knowI'm very happy, trying to be any happier would just be greedy at this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/18 04:32 PM |
| 8 | Women don't choose from all men, they choose from the men they knowThat sounds a lot like what I said? Would you agree that the phenomena you are describing as gendered are more human than woman-specific, or is that an area on which we disagree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/18 05:20 AM |
| 25 | Women don't choose from all men, they choose from the men they knowI think it's irrational to suggest that if given the opportunity to date a less desirable or a more desirable partner, men would be somehow more likely to choose the less desirable partner. Everyone wants a high-quality well-matched partner. Sure, scale of access within a scene may look different by gender, but that essential drive for the best partner is not unique to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/18 05:18 AM |
| 41 | Women don't choose from all men, they choose from the men they knowIt's wild to me that this behavior is attributed to women rather than people. Women have little crushes on men they'll never talk to for inane reasons - in much the same way that men pine vaguely over women they've never properly met. Women usually end up pursuing the person they see as their best option; men usually end up pursuing the person they see as their best option. Women are not choosing from a pool of Every Man; men are not choosing from a pool of Every Woman. Often, these 'pools' cons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/18 03:55 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameIt's not a problem, it's... how things are. I'm describing the existing state of the world and you're saying 'no, the existing state of the world won't apply to looks-based societal dynamics in the future because CRISPR will be a great equalizer' with no evidence as to why. I've offered you a variety of scenarios that challenge your assertion: CRISPR won't make my grandparents attractive, CRISPR doesn't guarantee genetic-status nondiscrimination, CRISPR doesn't retroactively change your bones, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 08:44 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameMy point is that 'just because we could now almost universally satisfy our basic needs quite affordably doesn't mean we do; we start satisfying our basic needs in such a way that we can indicate our wealth, status, health, and fitness as opposed to eating the exact same things our ancestors were starving for.' Because, as I said before, changing the 'window' of what is available doesn't change the root of the behavior: status-seeking in a hierarchical society. If having an attractive partner is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 08:04 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameAre you sincerely arguing that in upper-class parts of western food-secure communities the wealthy don't purchase status foods rather than subsistence foods? My comment bears out in reality or restaurants wouldn't be able to sell food dipped in gold and wagyu beef. Once people's basic needs are met, they find new ways to stratify the acquisition of the desirable resource. And I'd say 'unattractive parents' would be a pretty good strategy. If you narrow the field of variation, more nuanced hierar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 04:56 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameIf you increase collective access to food and eliminate food insecurity, the standards for food will change. As a society, we've evolved from seeking out as much high calorie food as possible to survive to seeking out food that confers abstracts like 'health' and status. If you increase collective 'good looks', the standards for attractiveness are altered to include the 'status' or perception of health of being a 'natural' beauty, or expand to become inclusive of the means by which attractivenes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 02:08 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameI don't think supportive and capable parents and positive-but-realistic societal messages have ever increased a child's likelihood of harming themselves. Better societal attitudes also mitigate the effects of looks-based prejudice, since teaching children to value internal qualities in themselves and their capacity for growth encourages them to value these (mutable rather than fixed!) qualities in others. While I'm a big fan of gene therapy, I think 'good looks' are a moving target. If you intro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 05:26 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameMy intention was to challenge OP's view. This is a debate sub. Do you disagree with anything but the semantics of what I'm saying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 05:18 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameNone of this contradicts anything I've said. I think it's useful to look at the same social movements and the response to them as explanatory factors behind RP and incel communities. I think people in power should do a better and more responsible job preparing children for the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 05:07 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameWhat are you trying to accomplish with this ongoing conversation? It doesn't seem like you want to hear what I have to say very much, which is your prerogative. I'd imagine you have many better things to do than to argue with someone quite set in her views about the world, none of which seem to run directly opposed to yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 05:04 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameI thought I was saying what incels already say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 04:50 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameI think my distinction was a useful one in terms of the movements to which RP/incels as opposed to BP are responding. RP/incels have formed in response to changing social tides; BP formed quite literally in response to RP, and in the present it gains numbers through opposition to incel ideology as well. I understand your getting offended by the perceived association, but it was a useful and accurate one to make. What I tried to articulate in my original post was that there's a difference between… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 04:48 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameI don't think 'society' (parents, teachers, media) should teach that [The Exact Partner You Desire Must Love You Back] is worth chasing! If incels agree with me and enthusiastically/sincerely espouse these ideals, I have no quarrel with any of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 04:36 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameIf you take issue with how I group/distinguish in my post, please offer your alternative interpretations of my explanatory mechanisms. Would you argue that TRP and incels don't similarly espouse a reactionary ideology opposing the 'progress' of feminism, leftism, what they see as cultural marxism? I'm curious about your evidence for this claim. Do you feel capable of setting your own course in life, capable of doing good things for the people around you, and fundamentally deserving of the love t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 04:30 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameI don't think 'society' (parents, teachers, media) should teach that this is worth chasing! I think people should move on if their sincere love isn't met with the desired response, and that's the behavior that should be encouraged. If someone doesn't like/love you, that's their prerogative, and you have every right to ask for something better and search for it somewhere else if denied. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 04:26 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameI think people do fundamentally deserve to be loved sincerely for their sincere ability to love. That doesn't mean The Exact Partner You Desire Must Love You Back - that means if you're offering love and not receiving it, offer it somewhere else, move on, you deserve it. This is a useful lesson that people are generally not taught, and it leads to a lot of pain. Accepting that things can get better, that people can love you the same way you can love them (and thus, it's worth working on the diff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 02:46 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameWhat I'm saying in this last bit is that I don't think most people have been taught they can chart their own course in life. Increasingly, 'good parenting' is seen as 'steering your child through their potential troubles so they'll be grateful to you and advance on your merits as a parent rather than their own trial and error, realizing they can overcome hardships themselves', 'good teaching' is about training a group of kids to parrot back the right facts in the right way, 'good political engag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 04:24 PM |
| 12 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameI haven't seen many TBP posters with the same kind of regimented worldview often displayed by black/red pill types. I think that's a fundamental difference - blue pill types are rarely showing up wearing the colors/in defense of a concept mutually developed by themselves and a group of other blue pillers, their activities lean more towards 'ugh, fuck TRP, here's why I think it sucks' than 'here's my way of explaining the world'. I would argue that in the same way that TRP/incels espouse a reacti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Besides sex, what do you personally bring to the table in a relationship?Thanks! I'm still chronically ill, and missing most of my intestines, but the crisis is seven years in the past and I don't think about that part of my life much unless someone else close to me is sick and needs help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 03:08 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Besides sex, what do you personally bring to the table in a relationship?When I was in the hospital for half a year, my parents brought up an enormous bag of those little heart-shaped candy boxes - like, fifty cents each when purchased in bulk. Every time a new shift of nurses cycled through, they gave a box to the new nurse and updated her on necessary info - my heartrate runs high, I'm allergic to two fairly common meds, I'd been having some weird bleeding from my incision and the doctors weren't taking it very seriously. It's not Crazy Parent/Girlfriend Nagging if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 02:31 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: Besides sex, what do you personally bring to the table in a relationship?- I can coherently and accurately answer almost any silly question about natural processes/biology/the weather without google, and I know enough about most things to ask good questions about/participate in anything a partner enjoys - I do fun things and am happy to share custody of a large group of fun friends - Parent/family members/friends absolutely love me, I'll get along with literally anyone and have a good time under the weirdest of circumstances - My work/personal life outside of a partn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 08:56 PM |
| 4 | What percentage of women actually go for their looksmatch?So in other words it is a lot to do with looks, since physical attraction is the pre-requisite before anything else gets to be a factor. In other words, specifically the words you ignored after my words: "...even then there are ways 'around' the looks barrier in social circles, subculture, status-matching as opposed to looks-matching, and just two people enjoying activities mutually and deciding to take things in a dating/sex direction." I'm not sure why you expect me to defer to your now-delete… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 05:02 AM |
| 2 | The reason why most women and blue pill men hate TRPThis is quite a narrow perspective. Men have a privilege that women don't have. If I as a woman express anger or frustration during my job because someone criticised me, no one will try to accomodate my workplace for me, no one will walk on eggshells so I can feel comfortable. I'll be mocked as a bitch throwing a temper tantrum, respected less, and my problems will be ignored even further, treated as something wrong with me rather than my situation. The problem is when men realise they can rage … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 01:41 AM |
| 2 | What percentage of women actually go for their looksmatch?Many commitment-phobic men and women are of average or below average attractiveness. I've dated mostly people who would be considered conventionally less attractive to me, and as often as not, they've ended the relationship. It really doesn't have a lot to do with looks beyond the initial approach-get-to-know-you part, and even then there are ways 'around' the looks barrier in social circles, subculture, status-matching as opposed to looks-matching, and just two people enjoying activities mutual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 11:20 PM |
| 2 | The reason why most women and blue pill men hate TRPI appreciate your measured, good-faith representation of your views. I think some of the 'issue' with TRP principles often seems to be their selective application and the fact that the highly simplified, 'meme' approach, especially to biological determinism, which makes it so popular with beginners, is actually very useful for avoiding self improvement and critical thought. A mean woman, for instance, can easily look at her cruel behavior and say, 'well, I'm a blunt and honest person. it's just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 09:41 PM |
| 7 | Q4W; What are the common problems you've run into with men in LTRs?I'm an effusive, loving person. I make a point of making the people around me know that I love them and care about them, and this goes 18x more for a partner. I'm spending a solid 10% of my energy on any given day, even covered in mud in the field or getting into fights on the internet, thinking about how to convince my boyfriend that I adore him more than any person on the planet and I'm right to do so because he is sincerely so good and so kind and so brilliant and wonderful. All that said, my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 05:37 PM |
| 5 | The reason why most women and blue pill men hate TRPI agree with much of what you're saying, but I want to clarify what I'm trying to articulate about Women As People. Women are humans who are acted upon by the people, cultures, and institutions to which they are exposed throughout light. So are men. When you describe differing male and female experiences of sex and different valuation of sex, I consider it important to add the dimension that women don't inherently value sex less than men - it's what their parents and their media influences and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 03:07 AM |
| 10 | The reason why most women and blue pill men hate TRPTeaching men that 'sociocultural dynamics often influence men and women to behave very differently, here's how we've observed these differences, but understand that this strategy has caveats and exceptions and changing the culture has changed behavior and will in the future... people act the way they do because of Reasons, some of which are biological but more of which are cultural, and if the Reasons change, the behavior will change, but not always in the way you anticipate' is far more likely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 02:48 AM |
| 13 | The reason why most women and blue pill men hate TRPTo be angry at its being exposed, it seems to me that they'd have to be aware that it's happening. If someone accuses me of cheating systematically on my taxes, I'm going to be confused rather than hateful unless I'm... deliberately cheating on my taxes. As someone who's taken evolutionary bio and animal behavior, though, I've got to disagree. It's important to ask ourselves what constellation of traits we mean when we refer to a woman who has locked down a desirable mate. She's probably got str… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 01:51 AM |
| 2 | Do you find beards and tats more attractive on guys than the fresh faced boy band look? That hasn't seemed as big in the last few yearsI value your experiences, but I literally will never date or hook up with a man who has a beard. If I know someone values his facial hair, that is fully disqualifying for me. It's a changeable physical characteristic, but I'm not willing to ask a partner to change his hygiene regimen on my account. Inversely, a trait I find uniquely desirable is enjoying the experience of beardlessness. While I don't speak for every woman, I speak for exactly one neurotic germophobe who's not going to subject a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 01:33 AM |
| 9 | The reason why most women and blue pill men hate TRPMost women hate TRP and MGTOW because it exposes their dual mating strategy. Women truly desire their alpha fux and settle for beta bux. "hating TRP because it exposes their strategy," if you'll forgive my bluntness, sounds a whole lot like "women are conniving puppetmasters controlling the sexual marketplace" who hate it when their secret Woman Tactics get revealed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 01:12 AM |
| 7 | The reason why most women and blue pill men hate TRPI'm wholeheartedly with you on this - most men are quite lovely! The internet can scare me somedays, but the material reality of the world is a lot nicer than the one we come up with when we feel angry and alone. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 01:10 AM |
| 7 | The reason why most women and blue pill men hate TRPI've been criticized because my friend-group is self-selective for women's colleges, but you'd be surprised at the number of women I know who are virgins because they're scared of men, aren't 'top tier' in terms of conventional attractiveness, or aren't financially (working crazy shifts) or emotionally (still very much a child of their parents rather than an adult in the world) able to date/sustain a relationship long enough to get to sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 12:19 AM |
| 14 | The reason why most women and blue pill men hate TRPMaybe it would help RP practitioners to consider how well 'All Women Are Like That' stacks up in reality. There's some great data that raises interesting questions about whether women being Like That or institutions being Like That may be implicated in certain situations used to bolster the AWALT claim. Women are more likely to initiate divorce, but the disparity disappears in non-marriage breakups. Women's serum testosterone levels vary substantially. The mean woman would not be diagnosed with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 12:09 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: How often do attractive women get hit on offline?I consider myself pretty, but I don't get approached very often. When I do, though, it's been extremely unpleasant. Maybe if I had spent formative years being approached more frequently but by well-intentioned/pleasant men, I'd have a different view of the practice. As-is, given that I've been spat on before while on my way to work in the city, in a nice part of town at that, being approached at all is unpleasant. I'm not thinking about the looks of a man who approaches me in the street, I'm thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/18 11:43 PM |
| 11 | The reason why most women and blue pill men hate TRPHere's my stance: men and women are fundamentally both people. This is something you and I, and people in general of both genders, have to work consistently to understand. In some biological ways, people differ on a gradient. In far more meaningful ways, people differ in that they've been raised in different environments, had different experiences, and have been taught different lessons. There are many useful sociocultural stories for understanding different behavior in men and women. Biological… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/18 11:16 PM |
| 14 | The reason why most women and blue pill men hate TRPI really don't love the quote-response format - I think it's much more useful and usually in better faith to consolidate one's point into a paragraph model - but to respond: [women are people is] missing because it's not necessary. Men already get "women as people". Most of them have that downpat. In fact that's most TRPers' main problem - they think men and women are exactly alike in all respects except for their reproductive tracts. They need to understand women AS WOMEN, not women as people. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/18 09:45 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (21 October 2018)I agree, BH starts slow but there's a lot to enjoy about the show in general. I didn't love the last season, but 2-3 were definitely excellent. While I haven't watched The X-Files or much of Vikings, I've really enjoyed The Good Place, the first season of Jessica Jones, and Mad Men, all of which are on Netflix | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/18 08:22 PM |
| 3 | Do you find beards and tats more attractive on guys than the fresh faced boy band look? That hasn't seemed as big in the last few yearsI have a personal vendetta against beards. It may be my blonde privilege/minimal and easily removed body hair privilege talking, but I absolutely can't stand facial hair and find it viscerally gross. My family is full of nearly-hairless laplanders so I didn't grow up around a lot of beardy guys, and I've never dated a guy with any sort of facial hair. I can't imagine this changing as I age (I'm young for the age range you target with this question - 21) but what I'm generally trying to convey he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/18 07:32 PM |
| 8 | How Often Do Men Avoid Talking to Women From Fear of Rejection Versus Lack of Interest?A woman telling herself she's 'too intimidating' is telling herself a story to make the schrodinger's rejection less painful, which is, I think, a good thing. I'd hope that men have a way of doing the same thing for themselves - I figure the best analogue is the story that women never approach. As a woman, I completely avoided talking to my now-boyfriend for three months because I was petrified I'd make him uncomfortable and, in the process, be 'rejected'. I was intimidated, based on our several… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/18 07:14 PM |
| 4 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (21 October 2018)I went climbing at a new-to-me schist crag yesterday and absolutely tore the shit out of my hands. It was a great day - apple cider donuts, gorgeous views, amazing company, beautiful weather, sent my first 5.10 - but now I'm not looking forward to work tomorrow, going in and mixing solvents all morning. If I avoid breaking any glassware it will be a miracle. Have you guys had a good weekend? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/18 06:46 PM |
| 75 | The reason why most women and blue pill men hate TRPThe bizarre duality that TRP often reveals, in my experience, is the simultaneous attribution of both no agency (women are children) and infinite agency (women are conniving puppetmasters controlling the sexual marketplace) - with the assumption that women, generally, have absolutely nothing else going on in their lives but, depending on the point being made, childish/inane pursuits or strategically and deliberately working to amass male attention. What I feel is missing from a lot of RP analysi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/18 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Are healthy/unhealthy lifestyles even compatible?I had a long, pleasant relationship with a guy who had absolutely no interest in my weekend activities. I'm an outdoorsy person, I love to get together with my friends and climb or hike - my boyfriend had one go at the local crag and politely never accepted another invitation to come out with us. If you really like each other, it's not a greater problem than, say, liking different restaurants or having different work schedules. You can work around it if you want, but only if you really want to a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/18 01:59 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: If you are dissatisfied with your SO?Break up asap. 'Prospects' takes time for both of us. If I respected someone enough to date them in the first place, I respect them enough to be honest, end things, and let us both heal and move on at our own pace rather than trying to get a leg up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/18 11:59 PM |
| 5 | Q4women:Would you cheat on your normal/ugly looking SO with a much more attractive male than him?Also do you only fantasize about conventionally attractive men?That's a really useful way of putting it - when I'm feeling iffy about an SO for whatever reason, it doesn't get me fired up to go out and find someone else, it makes me feel sad and unattractive and like I don't want to have sex with anyone. Same way with the fantasy thing being a situation - I think to myself, like 'ah, wouldn't it be nice to be held right now? And if I were being held, I might do this... they might do that...' When I'm single, I fantasize about, like, someone I was attracted … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/18 11:08 PM |
| 10 | Q4W How much does red/purple talk about "the wall" affect you emotionally, if at all.I'm 21, and I'm honestly really excited about being like... Robin-Wright age, 50s-range. Ideally, most people would find me kind of pretty-reminiscent but mostly scary. I'm an active person, women in my family don't age horribly and tend to stay healthy and independent into their late eighties, I have high career aspirations that probably won't be fully realized until my late twenties/early thirties... I imagine it'll be a lot easier to be taken seriously as a scientist, assuming I do 'hit a wal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/18 03:27 PM |
| 2 | How unattractive is insecurity to a woman?I'll be honest - when you said 'one month' I immediately thought, have you been with her through a ... monthly slump, yet? Those are kind of a thing that can happen. There are a lot of things that can intervene in a relationship to make things harder, and she might not be willing/able to share those after a month. It's weird being young, though I guess I don't have to tell you that. :) I'm lucky to be in a really lovely relationship right now, though still a bit of a dumbass about sharing insecu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/18 01:01 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Men should stop trying to get society to care about their problems unless they're willing to use violenceI think being part of PPD, and various other places where men express their discontentedness/hurt, has absolutely made me care more about their problems and think more critically about how I can support the men in my life, especially my little brother. Based on my experiences, no one honestly sharing their problems and views is truly doing something useless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/18 12:37 AM |
| 2 | How unattractive is insecurity to a woman?If you're still with her - is it something you feel like you can ask her about? Do you regularly talk about your relationship? One month is almost nothing in the 'grand scheme of things', but it can feel like a crazy long time to someone who hasn't done much dating and can absolutely span the beginning and end of the 'honeymoon phase', especially if you weren't that socially compatible to begin with. Like, it kind of sounds from this like she's not a very good conversationalist, and that's a com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/18 12:22 AM |
| 1 | How unattractive is insecurity to a woman?I've had a few otherwise quite lovely relationships where I absolutely did not feel that I could share insecurity with my partner. It was exhausting, I felt like I always had to be 'on' and that seeking out comfort would make my partner think less of me. It shortened the relationships. I empathize hugely with men who feel this way in relationships, but rather than generalizing all women as vulnerability-insecurity haters, I think it's much more useful to consider how we engage in specific relati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/18 10:20 PM |
| 2 | My boyfriend lost his virginity to a sex worker, then lied about itSometimes there are issues revealed in a person's sexual past. If a woman has many partners, that doesn't necessarily say something bad about her, but if she speaks derogatorily about those partners/has unresolved trauma that can be the consequence of that kind of lifestyle, that's a real 'trait' worthy of attention. Like, if I start dating a guy and find out he's had a lot of dogs... like, a surprising number of different dogs, that raises questions. Is he an animal hoarder? Has he abused/mistr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/18 03:56 PM |
| 6 | CMV: A Lot To Possibly Even Most Of Women's Complaint about Male Attention Is Really Just Another Form Of Humble BraggingNo need to apologize, though I appreciate your trying to empathize with my position a lot! I wrote the comment while I was still feeling that initial '!!!!!!' adrenaline, as most people probably would having been approached like that while walking alone in an isolated/iffy area with very direct intent. I want to distinguish between the way some men yell what are clearly compliments and some yell what are clearly (veiled) threats. A guy passes me on a bicycle and calls back 'you look nice today!'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/18 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Women, how often do you talk with your mother? Men, how often do you talk with your father? How often have you talked to her/him throughout your life?I talk with my mom about once or twice a week - she's in a similar field to mine and often has good advice about it, though I'd never turn to her for emotional/relationship-type advice. I definitely find myself on the phone with her more as tax season rolls around... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/18 12:23 PM |
| 2 | CMV: A Lot To Possibly Even Most Of Women's Complaint about Male Attention Is Really Just Another Form Of Humble BraggingSurprising that you were there, too, and overheard the delivery! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/18 01:22 AM |
| 2 | Strangers and flirtingA lot of my social life takes place through close (several-years-close) friends - we'll all get together and do something, whether in or out. I'm not actively making an effort to meet new people at the moment, since I'm happily in a relationship and I really enjoy my close circle of friends. Flirting without solicitation is usually acceptable, though. A guy who's fun and flirty in a rock climbing group may get some eyerolls from other guys, but he's unlikely to incur negative consequences solely… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/18 09:53 PM |
| 4 | CMV: A Lot To Possibly Even Most Of Women's Complaint about Male Attention Is Really Just Another Form Of Humble BraggingYeah, I figured. You're a predictable bunch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/18 08:46 PM |
| 5 | Strangers and flirtingI'm not a big fan of the bar/party/club scene - I'd say I end up doing something in that range of activities about once or twice a month, and I stopped drinking about a year ago, so I usually end up shepherding friends/boyfriend home safely. Generally, sure, it's acceptable, but it's really important you go in with the knowledge that your advances may be unreciprocated as well as the knowledge that others may make advances in your direction. Certain kinds of sexual attention, from men and women,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/18 08:45 PM |
| 25 | Q4Women: If your man had sex with you in your sleep (and effectively raped you) would you break up with him?Yes. There's a whole lot more to the story than your 'alarm clock penis' simplification. Waiting until someone is asleep to have sex with them because you're mad at them, apologizing mid-act but continuing it, is an alarming action, no clock involved. What'll he do to me the next time we fight? What would he have done if I objected more than annoyed/sleepy noises? How am I supposed to sleep next to a man who thinks swatting my hand away while conscious is a reasonable segue to fucking me while u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/18 08:34 PM |
| 22 | CMV: A Lot To Possibly Even Most Of Women's Complaint about Male Attention Is Really Just Another Form Of Humble BraggingIt's funny that this topic should come up here, because I was catcalled this afternoon, immediately after I had spent 3.5 hours immersed in mud. My shoes were still making sloshy noises, I was loaded down with core sampling equipment that I was bringing back to my professor's car, I cannot stress enough that I was feeling about as non-sexual as a person can physically be. A guy pulled up and beeped at me repeatedly until I looked up, rolled down his window and shouted 'looks like you could use a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/18 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: If you are casually sleeping with a woman...If I'm sleeping with a woman and she develops strong feelings that are unrequited, once I become aware of them, to uphold my personal ethical standard, I would need to examine my feelings towards her. Could I ever grow to feel the same? If not, why am I sleeping with her - sincerely, what am I enjoying from my time with her? If I realize that I sincerely don't like the person I'm sleeping with, I personally feel it is my moral obligation to talk to her about breaking things off in the most respe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/18 11:09 PM |
| 6 | Has anybody looked into what happens when there are no mother figures in child upbringing?While this focuses on children losing a mother due to death, and also seems to be focused on the AIDS crisis, many problems described seem to be quite similar. While single-parent households are often generalized as single-mother households, many of the same issues come up regardless of the gender of the parent lost/walked out. If a son or daughter who loses a mother never receives adequate substitute mothering, the loss can do long-term damage to his or her self-esteem, ability to relate to oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/18 09:54 PM |
| 2 | Did you know of loser males in college who did not socialize or have girlfriendsThey don't have the same level of visibility as incels, and they don't have a community pushing them to physical violence to nearly the same extent, but feeling lonely, isolated, and violently oppressed by men is a very potent combination, and lesbian separatists/political lesbians and the like have certainly not disappeared. Trans-exclusionary radical feminists, for instance - those convinced that anyone with a dick must be oppressing them personally - often fall into this category, with accomp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/18 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Did you know of loser males in college who did not socialize or have girlfriendsIn addition to the trufemcels forum, I would argue that a lot of the sometimes-violent female-separatist stuff that comes up is a very similar, though less vocal, counterpart to the incel-type movements that have gained a public stage recently. I could name a few women I know who quite strongly fall into the '[gender I have a problem with] aren't people, they're cruel duplicitous idiots who deserve to be shunned and punished' category. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/18 08:12 PM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL] Would you love your kids or your partner more?Poems, definitely a product of their time, though I have a huge soft spot for 'The Gods of the Copybook Headings' as it's one of the first that my father read to me as a child. I have a very specific memory of him placing about eighty-six disclaimers about imperialism and racism around 'Gunga Din', for instance - but I'm glad to have learned about those parts of the world in such a way. It was my father's view that I'd learn about it all eventually and might as well be able to ask questions free… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/18 07:58 PM |
| 2 | [Q4ALL] Would you love your kids or your partner more?I wouldn't marry/have children with someone if we couldn't mutually agree to go absolutely all-in on loving and supporting our kids. My children are going to know 24/7, 365, that they've got two amazing parents in their corner, no matter what, who they can tell anything and ask any question without fear and with the expectation of honesty in return. Rather than the 3/5 hour split you're describing, I fully intend for us all to cuddle up on the couch and read Rudyard Kipling's Just So Stories to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/18 02:16 PM |
| 2 | Is TRP really a guide on how to emotionally manipulate women?I think that the 'manipulation' most people take issue with is less the idea of 'men making themselves more valuable than they might otherwise appear!' and more 'literally encouraging manipulation, deception, and dehumanization of women [by certain members of the TRP community]'. Most functional, productive people are making efforts to become the best possible partner. Most functional, productive people are not gleefully discussing methods to do harm to and dehumanize members of their preferred … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/18 12:03 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: How have your friendships with women affected your views of gender relations?I have encountered no evidence against the assertion that we are the same person, one of us flung through a time loop, using slightly different cultural references. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 10:16 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: When you look at people who believe opposite to you, as far as gender/dating related issues are concerned, what are some things you could consider legitimate, or at least partially legitimate? How would you refine the idea to make it fit closer to your own reality?With every generation, we get closer to The Next one. :) ...one hopes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 10:14 PM |
| 3 | Debate: why do women get so worked up about mildly offensive commentsHe's a source. That's an explicitly professional paradigm. She fucks a source, she may lose her job. She's accused of flirting with a source, she loses her credibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 09:31 PM |
| 23 | Why do fangirls display such hysterical excitement in front of their favourite celebrity?I'll answer this question with a similarly rhetorical question: why do men display such hysterical emotion in the context of sporting matches? There are gender-distinct contexts in which extremely strong overflows of emotion are either acceptable or unacceptable. Women are 'allowed' in the context of sociocultural norms to get extremely excited about meeting their favorite celebrity, whether Lady Gaga or a Kpop band. For men, this behavior is shamed and looked down upon in the context of masculi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 09:29 PM |
| 3 | Debate: why do women get so worked up about mildly offensive commentsI really think this is the best way to put it. There are some circumstances in which explicitly sexual come-ons are just never going to be appropriate, and generally, in professional relationships, there's a code of conduct that excludes this kind of behavior. It's not as though she posted his name for public shaming or something, which would itself be inappropriate and an overreaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 09:25 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The Red vs Blue Pill Correlates Mostly Due To Red And Blue States. Southern (Red state) Women Are More AwaltI would definitely agree that PPD is a self-selecting corner of the internet, even within the self-selective context of The Internet. A woman whose lifestyle and approach to life most people here would find abhorrent is unlikely to stay here for any prolonged period of time. A woman who doesn't feel her lifestyle is defensible, and isn't willing to explain/defend her choices, is not going to stick around here or even show up in the first place. Does that mean PPD women are a cut above the throng… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 08:48 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The Red vs Blue Pill Correlates Mostly Due To Red And Blue States. Southern (Red state) Women Are More AwaltI'm 21 and from the south, though I'm currently in college in the northeast. I would have to disagree with this assessment. I haven't observed a substantial difference in the attributes that most people here would describe as 'high-quality' in northern vs southern women. I have noticed a difference in higher vs lower income women, but it's not a strict better-worse line. I grew up (in the south) hard middle class, my mom a teacher and my dad unemployed, SAHF-ing until I was out of elementary sch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 07:30 PM |
| 6 | Q4ALL: When you look at people who believe opposite to you, as far as gender/dating related issues are concerned, what are some things you could consider legitimate, or at least partially legitimate? How would you refine the idea to make it fit closer to your own reality?I understand that there are material causes to the anger and disenfranchisement of men who believe passionately in the inferiority or inherent cruelty of women. While often these men specifically blame women - often individual women who have rejected or abused them - for their conditions, I think there are broader societal factors at work, though the problems are real and it's vital to remedy them. Loneliness, for instance, isn't caused by, say, the twelve cruel women a man has encountered throu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 04:09 AM |
| 2 | Is It Actually Worth Watching The Purge Films?First Purge, the one that was in theaters this summer, might actually be a good place to start once it's easy to get to. Otherwise, I fully agree that Purge 2 is a good starting point, Purge 3 relies on a lot of knowledge of the 'universe' to actually be interesting - 1, 2, and first purge are the ones that make fine standalones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/18 07:47 AM |
| 2 | Is It Actually Worth Watching The Purge Films?In my opinion, they get better as the (movie) series progresses. The first is slow and weirdly contained - why focus on one house when all of the action is happening outside? What a waste of a concept! - but well acted and presents an interesting perspective. The second has found its rhythm, the third even moreso in terms of atmosphere building, though the third is where it gets blatantly preachy... at the same time, it's just a straight-up good movie, though you may not sympathize with the poli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/18 07:21 AM |
| 2 | On Saturday this garbage cat died, but damnit, she was my garbage cat. Press F to pay respect.F, I'm so sorry about your beautiful garbage cat. I'm sure her life with you was as full of love as a cat's life can possibly be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/18 07:09 AM |
| 1 | As a man, I can do whatever I want to my bodyCurrent social norms discourage staring at someone's chest and also discourage publicly flipping out on someone if they stare at your chest. Both still sometimes happen, but we agree, as part of a society, it would probably be better if both happened less often. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/18 07:07 AM |
| 1 | As a man, I can do whatever I want to my bodyI mean, yeah. That is my point. There are social consequences if I write something mean about you on the internet even if there are no physical consequences to you. There are social consequences to staring even if there are no physical consequences. We Live In A Society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/18 03:56 AM |
| 2 | Purge is still on, link seal videos.Definitely one of my top twenty favorite Seals! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/18 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Purge is still on, link seal videos.Great seal, great message! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/18 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Purge is still on, link seal videos.Excellent! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/18 03:22 AM |
| 1 | Purge is still on, link seal videos.GREAT one!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/18 03:22 AM |
| 1 | Purge is still on, link seal videos.😱 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/18 02:36 AM |
| 2 | Purge is still on, link seal videos.Have you accepted our lord and savior Yuki the ringed seal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/18 02:27 AM |
| 6 | The Purge was a great concept that ended up a shit boring filmFirst Purge film was boring, second was a little more fun, third was solid but a little too preachy, most recent was great but politically ham-fisted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 10:19 PM |
| 5 | What women think PPD is like.What men think this sub is like AND what it's actually like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Tell me about the worst breakup you ever had.First boyfriend broke up with me by phone because he felt I hadn't gotten into a good enough college to suit him, the day after I broke both my legs (he didn't know this, I had called him to tell him I had two broken legs). I wish I could go back in time and cradle my poor, dumb, 18-y/o self, I fully blamed myself and went on a several-month mental health tailspin. A few weeks later I ended up getting into a great uni after all, but by then I was already off the rails. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 03:15 PM |
| 1 | What is your favorite store to go to?Hm, I'm a Sephora person between the two of those. And I hate to out myself as a huge Marshall's/TJ Maxx type, but something like 85% of my wardrobe comes from those two shops, lol. Thank god neither of them has an online storefront or I would have no money! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 03:06 PM |
| 2 | As a man, I can do whatever I want to my bodyAs a (wo)man, I can do whatever I want to my body My (vocal chords) are a part of my body. Therefore, I can (shout at someone in public if they're doing something I don't like) if I decide so. You're problematic if you disagree. CMV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 03:01 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I can do whatever I want to my bodyFinally, I've been training for this fight for years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 06:36 AM |
| 1 | As a man, I can do whatever I want to my bodyIt really doesn't. He can do whatever he wants with his body until it interferes with her body. In societal context, staring is a social-norm-breaking act of interference. I made the exaggerated point with the eye-clawing/phone-dialing (actions can affect you) and then scaled back in the second paragraph to provide a more appropriate equivalent: throwing a fit about being stared at. First, extend argument to the point where it obviously conflicts with any practical vision of reality. No, it's de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 06:34 AM |
| 2 | Incels are like onionsOh I LOVED the song of the lioness! I was less sold on the rest of Pierce's stuff, but everything Alanna was life-changing. My first taste of fantasy. I never did fanfic for that specific series, but I read those books to shreds and loaned them to all of my friends... ah, every so often I remember them fondly and think about doing a reread! I can't blame you, most of our online complaining was about how the concept was good but it got jacked up. We were a group of people who wrote alternate-univ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 06:14 AM |
| 2 | As a man, I can do whatever I want to my bodyOkay, by this logic, a woman can do whatever she wants with her body, and you're problematic if you get upset with her for clawing your eyes out or using her voice and hands to call a police officer or her gun-toting older brother if she wants to. Not saying that's an okay or normal response, but there are social norms surrounding behavior beyond what you physically can and can't do. Current social norms discourage staring at someone's chest and also discourage publicly flipping out on someone i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 06:09 AM |
| 1 | Incels are like onionsOh nooo. The Hunger Games? I also did some Artemis Fowl. Ages 11-14 were WILD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Incels are like onionsI think attempts to apply rules to love inevitably run aground in practice because love is such a unique, personal, subjective experience. Beautiful and messy, but so beautiful! Anyone arguing that all relationships always work in certain ways is making a wild overgeneralization, because people are weird. The first guy I was utterly in love with (thought I was... I was fourteen and very stupid, now I'm twenty-one and still very stupid) was a guy I knew exclusively through an online community who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 05:50 AM |
| 3 | Incels are like onionsYeah, full sincerity, I'm sure someone out there is fucking an onion and quite happy about it! The heart wants what it wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 05:32 AM |
| 1 | Is being called unrapeable an insult to you?A woman who I climb with once made a crude comment to this effect while we were conditioning together. She was a small person who could bench about half as much as I could, and she was trying to pay a compliment that went over poorly. Her first language was French and she wasn't from the US, so I explained that the comment wasn't in great taste, but yes, I have a sick right hook and can take care of myself, and we moved on from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 05:11 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Comparison is the thief of joyCheers to you as well! Have a good, fun, safe evening. 💓 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 05:05 AM |
| 2 | [Serious] Women of this sub: What's your type?I'm pretty chill about it, not big into shoving my sex life into other people's faces. If I'm asked, I'll tell them, but most people who've known me while I was dating a woman thought I was gay and most people who've known me while dating a man think I'm straight. It takes a while for people to put pieces together, and most don't care that much once they do. The hardest part is usually explaining to a partner. Gay women and straight men both have a 1 in 5 shot of being really weird about it, and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 05:02 AM |
| 1 | Drop a Pic, but the trick is I, and others cannot comment on the photo. Commenters not posting photos will be blocked. Bonus Karma for sensual photos or pet pics.Not badly at all, this one was very small. Spider crabs and blue crabs are the real savage motherfuckers, and they can get big enough to make you bleed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 04:29 AM |
| 2 | What's your least favorite household chore?Sometimes self-care is hard drugs and a good nap. Hope your neck feels better soon! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 04:26 AM |
| 1 | What's your least favorite household chore?Nothing wrong with that! I hope she enjoys learning with you - it's hard to believe anyone gets through a decade or two without learning how to cook for themselves, it's such a useful skill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 04:26 AM |
| 1 | What's your least favorite household chore?Sending you Strong Cleaning Energy!! You can do it! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 04:24 AM |
| 2 | Drop a Pic, but the trick is I, and others cannot comment on the photo. Commenters not posting photos will be blocked. Bonus Karma for sensual photos or pet pics.This kind of loose bun shape with floofy hair doesn't do anyone head-shape favors, alas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 04:21 AM |
| 1 | [Serious] Women of this sub: What's your type?I'm not sure how useful having sex with a professional would be. She's paid to boost your ego, not necessarily to get you used to what good sex actually looks like - and every woman is different, so the girl you end up with might not necessarily like the same things that the sex worker likes or professes to like. The first guy I had sex with was also a virgin, and we went at it with a 'let's see what happens!' attitude, which was ultimately really great for both of us. I try to bring that attitu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 04:12 AM |
| 1 | MBTI gets introverted types wrong (post based on cleaned up high-effort comment)Yeah, I think you're reading a lot of antagonism on my side that isn't there. If I'm going to level with you, I'm frankly very confused by the way you continue to read absolute worst intent from my responses when you very much... "started it", as it were. I'm annoyed at you because you're being melodramatic and combative over something that I can't imagine anyone sincerely getting this worked up over, then blaming me for the fact that you've gotten so worked up. I'm glad your resting heart rate … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 03:59 AM |
| 2 | Drop a Pic, but the trick is I, and others cannot comment on the photo. Commenters not posting photos will be blocked. Bonus Karma for sensual photos or pet pics.He was trying his best to kill me for the indignity of picking him up! I'm lucky to have survived, let alone captured a picture of him still with the killifish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 03:17 AM |
| 1 | [Serious] Women of this sub: What's your type?"Good enough" has very little to do with size, in my experience, though I recognize I'm not the rule. I date and have sex with women too, and I'm not disappointed when they turn out not to have dicks at all. If, say, a month or two in (at which point I've decided pretty conclusively whether I like someone or not) the sex is shitty, then they may just be inexperienced, with my preferences or in general - no problem, we got time to practice! - or I may have misjudged something about them that resu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Drop a Pic, but the trick is I, and others cannot comment on the photo. Commenters not posting photos will be blocked. Bonus Karma for sensual photos or pet pics.This beautiful little asian shore crab wasn't ready for his closeup when I caught him mid-meal... he's shy. Lighting in the lab is shitty for closeups, unfortunately, and my phone is shitty in general. Best I can do for you is some wild-caught crabs. :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 03:08 AM |
| 1 | [Serious] Women of this sub: What's your type?I'm white but I don't consider race an important or deciding factor - my track record is all over the map. I'm a hair under 5'9, and I prefer height within a few inches of my own (5'6-6'). Much taller/shorter isn't a disqualification, but it introduces physiological challenges. Face is another one with little to go on consistently, though my track record leans more feminine/fine-boned. Manny Jacinto is, in my opinion, one of the most attractive men possible. I'm pretty enough myself. I'm fairly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 02:54 AM |
| 4 | Drop a Pic, but the trick is I, and others cannot comment on the photo. Commenters not posting photos will be blocked. Bonus Karma for sensual photos or pet pics.Met a nice jonah crab today, it counts as a pet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 02:26 AM |
| 1 | What's your least favorite household chore?Ooh, didn't even think of this one. I specifically looked for a place with laminate floors so I can sweep/mop and be done with it. Fuck vacuuming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 02:16 AM |
| 9 | What would happen if rape against women was legal?It would happen slightly more often, but not drastically. It's a crime for a reason. The average person doesn't have a profound desire to do harm. More women would likely own guns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 01:59 AM |
| 1 | MBTI gets introverted types wrong (post based on cleaned up high-effort comment)Ohhhhhh my god. Oh my god. Wow. I don't know why you keep doing this since you don't seem to be enjoying it at all! Every single one of your replies intensifies in navy-seal-copypasta edginess, but you're being completely sincere! It's okay to not respond if you don't want to talk to me anymore. You can ignore me! You are literally the one who's making yourself look like a giant fight-starting asshole here for no particularly good reason. I came here to make my joke and leave - which is the fun … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 01:44 AM |
| 3 | Q4W, if you were a man how would you go about obtaining a large number of casual sexual partners?I'd work to have a conveniently located, clean, comfortable place to 'go back to' Dress reasonably well, smell nice, work out about as much as I do now Go to the same social events I already attend, focus slightly more on meeting women but still prioritize having a good time Make it clear that I'm available, but otherwise focus on having fun conversations with interesting people Invite a woman I was interested in back to my place for a glass of wine, not be weird about it regardless of her respo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 11:56 PM |
| 1 | MBTI gets introverted types wrong (post based on cleaned up high-effort comment)You seem confused about what to think of me, which is fair. I know a lot about MBTI - I had that phase! - which is why I'm good at explaining it simplistically. I initially made a joke and you replied like I'd murdered your infant child in front of you and escalated quite theatrically, and I was surprised and taken aback by this reaction. You sabotaged your own high-effort post by putting no effort into responding like a human being. Probably against your own better knowledge, unless you're the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 11:38 PM |
| 1 | MBTI gets introverted types wrong (post based on cleaned up high-effort comment)It sounds like you're just trying to be mean rather than have fun, which is sad for you. Take better care of your heart, man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 03:46 PM |
| 1 | MBTI gets introverted types wrong (post based on cleaned up high-effort comment)I thought I had decent reading comprehension. :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 03:31 PM |
| 1 | MBTI gets introverted types wrong (post based on cleaned up high-effort comment)I hope this was fun for you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 03:23 PM |
| 12 | How many guys do you think the average woman fucks in her lifetime?That estimate sounds like an extreme outlier, both statistically and in my personal experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 07:13 AM |
| 3 | I like you guysIt's me, isn't it. You hate how I always take things personally for some reason. I KNEW it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 06:44 AM |
| 1 | I'm hanging out with real people IRL and it sucks. AMAThanks! I have a shift in the lab tomorrow (rip) so I'm just trying to kill it with cough suppressants and drinking enough water to hydrate a small army. I know literally nothing about you or your situation other than that you're the fucking lizard king, but Everyone Sits Around And Smokes get-togethers are my least favorite kinds of get-togethers. Especially indoors, yikes. Hope the weather out on the porch is nice and you can duck out gracefully sometime soon, or the situation improves in some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 06:43 AM |
| 1 | Gimme your foodThanks, BananaFactBot! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 06:00 AM |
| 2 | I'm hanging out with real people IRL and it sucks. AMAHave you tried being actively antagonistic to them? Based on this sub, I'd assume that's how human interactions are supposed to work. For real, hope your evening improves! I'm laid up with a cold right now and utterly miserable, you have to live it up on the behalf of everyone who's suffering at home on a friday night! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 05:59 AM |
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