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Luckily, there are lots more obnoxious people to debate in PPD land :-; Keep on smoogsing. I can't stay where I can't engage in debate the same way every else can, no matter what crazy stuff they're making discussion threads about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 12:40 AM
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If you are the 2nd most obnoxious poster here, it seems that I must be the most obnoxious. Because I don't seem to be able to post an OP without LittleKnownFacts having a problem with it. Enjoy your purple pilling. I'm fucking over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 01:19 PM
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I'd discuss it with you, Mr Moral, but the same mod has jumped down my throat yet again and removed my post. Apparently the rp stuff posted here is worthy. Mine is not. No point in coming here with attack dogs on the loose.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 12:55 PM
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No need to be civil to someone who jumps on every OP of mine. You can see for yourself what is being posted here. My post was well thought out and well formatted. You just have a problem with it. I'm banning myself from this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 12:51 PM
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There is something wrong with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 12:46 PM
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oh for fucks sake What wrong with you? You always do this to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 12:45 PM
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Because the theory applies and works in the real world. It's just stuff that is not rp that works. You guys just don't realise it. We don't say the worst things about women bitches, hoes, children the conclusion might appear to be radical, but how radical can it be when it can be applied to the real world and show real life results? trp wouldn't be the cesspit it is if the stuff there worked for the majority of men. The forum is there for men to share hate about women. Trying to make out it's so…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 12:34 PM
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cherry pick If it was a matter of cherry picking, PPD wouldn't have become a thing and reddit wouldn't have wanted to shut trp down.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 12:31 PM
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Testesterone also increase your tendency to be bold so lots of men are upfront instead of manipulative. lol no. Lots of men are con men or cheating on many women at the same time or in politics or simply manipulating during business deals. It's universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 11:36 AM
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but men are far less likely to use women for reasons outside of love / romance *cough splutter* You mean to say, men don't use women just for sex and just pretend love and romance? Or cheat when the opportunity comes along? And what the hell is "pure" about falling in love because of beauty. Nothing, that's what. Women are just the same when it comes to male beauty, so it's not just a male trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 11:33 AM
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Reddit at large would have you believe that TRP is one shade of sexist crap, but I could go on any subreddit and find the outlier that makes the community look bad. Doesn’t mean that is the example we should take away and exemplify to people unfamiliar with the community. It's 90% of the people on trp who make it look bad. Very, very embarrassingly bad. It's hard to believe that the guys there don't know this. I'm pretty sure that if reddit suddenly insisted on using real names, most of them wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 11:26 AM
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I used to think RP was a misogynistic hive of crazies. They are misogynistic crazies. Then I actually went there and applied all of their truths to my reality, and you can’t stop 1+1 being 2. Yeah that's why the same old bitter men are there month in month out, spouting the same "truths" and the same bitter diatribes. That's how we know it's not working. They can't hide that kind of truth. Everyone sees it. Whatever worked for you is just things are not rp. Looking your best, confidence and a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 11:16 AM
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I too can traffic in pointless platitudes. Women are people. Not a different species. It's a pointless distinction for those peddling rp bitterness, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 04:03 AM
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Red pill is when you see that women have different criteria for different relationships with different men - that involves promiscuity with some men, 10-date rule with others and total manipulation with yet anothers. You just blew any integrity with that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 12:25 AM
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Wrong premise. Manipulation is not a built-in feature of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 12:20 AM
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Learning how women work and acting accordingly is not manipulation. You cannot know how women 'work' without knowing how humans work. Start there. Confident, assertive women are treated better by men than submissive, timid women are treated by men. Confident, assertive people are treated better in general than submissive, timid people are. On the other hand, rp is filled with so much inane crap about women. There is a thread in rp right now that has links to posts by someone named bonecrckr. His…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 12:19 AM
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I know what I know about women. I am one. I'm around many. Because of that, I know when men are bullshitting about women. That's the last thing I'll say. You keep on doing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:10 PM
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Will settle in my 50s and snag a post wall 30 old hottie then. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:05 PM
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male SMV/RMV isn't directly correlate to youthfulness. it is not at all uncommon for a man's SMV and RMV to continue increasing well into his 30s. Men look better in their 20s, so it does correlate. The vast majority of men do not increase their SMV past age 25. And most will not increase their RMV past age 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:01 PM
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Because women just don't relate to the idea of propping up an entire friendship based on the faint hope of getting laid. Yes I think that's true. We don't relate to that. But I've seen women engage in friendship with a guy in the hope of an LTR. That's kind of similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:49 PM
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Have you ever actively tried acquiring orbiters or were you naive enough to think they were just really good friends before finding how covert contracts work? I never thought about orbiters before this forum. I wouldn't try to acquire any. Yes, I've thought that men just wanted to be friends with me. I have some like that now. Whatever. If they are just friends with me in the hope to hevae sex with me then that's on them, not me. I don't need to change my behaviour. If one of them makes it clear…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:37 PM
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Female status is based on the kinds of men you can attract for commitment . Do you mean in the eyes of other women? I so, I strongly disagree. These days, female status is about the job that you do. Young women want a high flying job. Or they at least want a solid career path. I think the number of women studying at college/uni show this. And young women are impressed by other women who have jobs like that. I have a friend studying to be a doctor, and I notice that she immediately gains respect …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:18 PM
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I’ve been with a large enough pool of women to derive a workable sample size from No you haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:07 PM
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is there anything less funny than a woman trying to be funny? Yes, a man. "manster" isn't a pun, it's just a heavy handed and graceless portmanteau word. there is no cleverness involved, you just shoved together the first two words that came to mind. you assume it is funny, not because it actually is funny (it's not), but because you are a woman and all women have a terrible sense of humor. Only a manster would rationalise things in that way. You can't conceive of the glory in that word. "himste…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:05 PM
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Right totally....that's what they do today/since birth control. That's the transition though, it's not how it worked before birth control made the cost non-prohibitive. We agree on something. Yay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:59 PM
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Fuck around and have fun with the top, low-commitment men while younger (at little cost--yay birth control!), settle down with a stable guy a little later. That's just what people generally do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 04:02 AM
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That's a stupid question. Why? Why are people so afraid of insisting that boys and men do something about contraception but feel fine about raging at women about it and forcing them into abortions?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 04:01 AM
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Why do women sleep with so many men these days, even though it completely contradicts their sexual strategy to do so? It's because the strategy was never hardwired. Each generation of women has to do the best with the environment they find themselves in. Women do not have to grab a man for marriage when they're young the way in which they used to have to. They are less likely to have to rely solely on a man for money (SAHMs still do). RP imagines that women are always the same over thousands of …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 01:22 AM
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if women were as funny as they think they are, they would call the male version a "himster" Nah. Manster is a blend of man and hamster. What the fack is a himster? Get outta here you manster hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 01:13 AM
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Deny deny deny? What is it is that your tiny experience of a few women cannot make a theory. There is also no way you slept with a lot of varied women and they were all like this. You can say it until you're blue in the face but I 100% know it's untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 01:10 AM
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It's so easy to make mansters grateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 12:34 AM
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Pervs selling porn illegally out of their homes is so far from every twelve year old boy becoming a hardcore porn addict and massively damaging his ability to become a normal non degenerate freak or psycho killer incel That's a good point. But if people are prepared to sell illegally (and they would) they would sell to teenagers, and younger brothers and sisters would also gain access to it. Wouldn't it better for internet providers to restrict access to those who are over 18? Still not bulletpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 12:33 AM
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The “RP only works on slutty dumb women” is false. Works on everyone I didn't say 'slutty dumb'. But there is NO way you have slept with a lot of women, if you think what you do. No way at all. Sorry, didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 12:30 AM
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if you gain the approval of her group of friends then you can seduce her. They all think he's attractive and fuckable? Well, then yeah, he's in with good chance. The obvious is obvious. But approval here means being considered worthy of fucking, and her group contains all other women, so yes if you are able to seduce one woman you can seduce them all. If he's very attractive, he's fuckable. Obvious comment is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 12:29 AM
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>You desire a man who has experience and who’s desired by other women All the men I date have experience in dating other women - and the women they date have experience in dating other men. The idea of his sexual experiences grosses me out and I choose not to think about it. All men I date are desired by other women, because they are attractive. However, I don't always have any visual clues about his desirability when I first meet him and date him. All I know is that I like how he looks and how …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 10:16 PM
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It's ok... the mansters will soon forget what any woman says. Their manster brains are continually being reconditioned in the rp, incel and mgtow manster strongholds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 09:36 PM
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As a guy who has slept with his fair share number of women they all respond to the same triggers Then you either haven't slept with that many or you choose the same type of woman every time. Because your statement isn't true of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 09:32 PM
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Women want to be provided for, protected, and be somewhat possessed (for lack of a better term) by a dominant masculine man. See, this sounds like you lifted it directly from incels or rp. It's not real life, generally. I'm 20, and neither me or any of my friends date men who are dominant. As far as being 'provided for' - men who are older want to date us, and even one or two years older can mean that he has a car and more money than us. I can understand men who are having trouble dating women l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 09:30 PM
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I don't think we could make porn illegal, because as soon as we tried, people would just be selling it out of their private houses. I agree that young men would overall be better off with varied activities, especially outdoor ones. Perspectives get skewed by staying indoors and playing games, watching porn and only talking to the people in certain internet forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 09:18 PM
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Of course, manster.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 09:14 PM
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In general men are more variable than women in most measures. Even if they are, it doesn't change the fact it is not true to say that 'women are a homogeneous lot'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 09:13 PM
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Does she have enough finances to afford that? Is she working? If so can she afford daycare? Does she have enough space for a crib and all necessary baby products? Can she afford diapers? No to all of that. If your automatic response to hardship is to use drugs, then you’re probably not ready to raise a child. I agree. The thing is that she still feels traumatised and empty and she can't help how she feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 09:11 PM
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Your points about things that can go wrong are all true. But it's still not a medical issue that needs fixing. Unless you consider every process in the human body a medical issue that needs fixing - because every process or structure in a body can go wrong. An arm bone becomes a medical issue when it is broken. Women did have babies for hundreds of thousands of years before modern medical advances - before c-sections or hospitals. It's also true that pregnancy and childbirth carried a high risk …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 09:08 PM
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Ok, so you don't mean that if you sexually seduce one woman then you are able to sexually seduce all women. You are saying that if you sexually seduce one woman, then you gain the approval of her group of friends? Well, that's not quite true either. We try hard to like the guy for our friend's sake but we can't always do that. There has been quite a few times in which one of the girls in my group of friends has gotten a boyfriend that we don't like and think is sketchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 09:02 PM
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Don't listen to the scatterbrains here. The LAST thing a woman should ever do is to 'sit back and pick and choose between those men who approach her'. Because you might get none that way. And the men who do approach are likely to be all chaff and no wheat. The best thing to do is to pick the men you like yourself, and talk to them. Otherwise, it's almost impossible to get anyone who's worth dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:54 PM
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If you can seduce one woman, you can seduce them all. Not in the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:49 PM
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Passively selecting the best suitor from a roster of male applicants, and then kicking back and letting him do all the work, does not require a "guide" What if none if the applicants appeal? What if there are none or barely any applicants?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:48 PM
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Women have it easier then men.Women can get men effortlessly Obviously, the OP is trying hard but still not getting attention from men. How the fuck is that effortless?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:44 PM
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But it does let me know that female sexual desire is really nonexistent without manipulation You are correct. There is a hamster in women's brains busily pushing buttons and pulling strings. When the hamster sees an attractive manster, it activates the 'tease and please' lever. Once the attractive manster is on the hook, the hamster activates the 'gifts and money' lever. After the manster promises his commitment, the hamster releases the levers and pushes the 'cold harpy' button. It's true. All …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:34 PM
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This sounds extremely bitter. I hope you find a way of feeling better about yourself, in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:26 PM
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You sound very isolated from women. That's all I got from your post. None of it is true. It's sad that you're so isolated. I hope you can do something about that. What I think we need more than anything in our society is free counselling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:23 PM
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Give them enticements. A t-shirt maybe that says AWALT.... make the letters glow-in-the-dark so that the message does not fail them even in the gravest darkness....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:10 PM
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This isn't new BC though. Newer than the type that's been around for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 08:01 AM
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I mean, I could always refuse so, not really. Scary from the point of view that there are women so freely going bareback when having ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 08:00 AM
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Oh hell I'm so sorry. I didn't even know about the brittle bone thing. I just looked it up. How scary! Seems that women gain much of their bone mass when they are under 30 - and the pill affects our ability to gain that bone mass. And osteoporosis rates are increasing. http://www.thedoctorwillseeyounow.com/content/womens_health/art2849.html Fuck. I hope you're able to reverse the bone loss!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:58 AM
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Have you heard of child support? I'm speaking about birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:52 AM
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If a boyfriend is pressuring you into getting an abortion, it would probably be a nightmare raising a child with him. My close friend wishes she had the baby and was raising it without him. She might well change her mind later on and I hope she does. The drug use definitely came after the abortions. It's how they're dealing with it. I believe that it's best for abortion to completely the woman's own decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:51 AM
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Pregnancy isn't a disease, but it is a medical issue. Not all medical issues are diseases; menopause and a broken bone aren't diseases either. I wouldn't call pregnancy or menopause medical issues, because they are both natural processes and don't need fixing. Whereas a broken bone is a medical issue and does need fixing. There can be medical complications with pregnancy though and it does carry health risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:48 AM
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Every casual hookup I went raw with, the girl suggested no condom. Scary!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:44 AM
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So many men are so fucking stupid it isn't even funny. Yes! You need to instruct them better, Mr Kapowie
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:42 AM
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Can you post some data about this? https://www.bmj.com/content/350/bmj.h2135 Conclusions In these population based, case-control studies using two large primary care databases, risks of venous thromboembolism associated with combined oral contraceptives were, with the exception of norgestimate, higher for newer drug preparations than for second generation drugs. ​ The UK has some of the largest sources of routinely collected data in the world, with longitudinal primary care records spanning up t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:36 AM
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Yes there are definite risks of death with pregnancy and childbirth. No question. Birth control saves lives. It also takes some lives, via blood clots etc. The new BC is even worse for blood clots. The vaginal ring carries a 6 times greater risk of blood clots. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/newer-birth-control-pills-higher-risk-of-blood-clots/ My point is that it needs to be far safer than it is. Am tired of the claims that say women have endless options and it's all so easy. For many women, it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:27 AM
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That is very true about the risks. But it still stands that pregnancy is a natural process and not a disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:24 AM
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That's great to hear you got to a better place! I have one close friend and know at least 3 others who are not dealing well with abortions. They are dealing with it with drug use, which obviously isn't good. I think the pain is wrapped up in the callous attitudes of boyfriends and others who pressured them into getting one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:05 AM
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Hopefully the male BC Pill will have much less side effects. Since regulations has got way better Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:44 AM
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Meh, women are a homogeneous lot. The enormous variability of the expressed X chromosomes say differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 12:03 AM
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Getting pregnant is a medical issue. No, it isn't a medical issue. A pregnancy isn't a disease. I have significantly more agency as a woman because of birth control. I can now have sex without living in fear of becoming pregnant. I would never want to rely on man to ensure that I don't get pregnant. Yes to all of that. So you can talk about how horrible birth control is but it is one of the best things that has ever happened to advance women. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. I'm talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:29 PM
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You didn't mention a single thing about ensuring your son uses a bit of polyurethane on his penis for five minutes at a time, yet you think it's ok to force your daughter into an abortion. Translation: it's easy to force women to take responsibility but it's too hard to force men to do anything. So, just let men off the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:26 PM
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See what I don't understand about you is you don't want women to have to make this moral decision yet you think female contraception, which reduces abortions, is terrible. I don't think the concept of contraception is terrible at all. It's needed. I think the side effects are terrible. I'm saying women have to deal with medications their whole lives that men don't have to even think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:20 PM
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It's a huge political football. Studies can be skewed every which way. Both sides of the debate have enormous agendas. One side is trying to prove one thing and the other side is trying to prove the opposite. It's vicious. My friend, for instance, won't speak out because she thinks she'll be aligning herself with the pro-lifers. I wouldn't want to align myself with them either. I'm on neither side but believe that we currently have no choice but to offer choice. And forgotten in the whole debate…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:20 PM
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I think it's a fair comment because of the high number of risks associated with birth control. Some women are ok on it but how do we know how they are not being adversely affected even so? Not everything shows up until years later, such as liver or thyroid issues. And how would most women know if their libido is being affected if they've been on birth control since they were 16? And then there are issues with blood clots and cancer and a thousand other things. I know that birth control is used t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:07 PM
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The real issue/risk is the fact that they have high T. Men get hot and heavy and forget that they need to be aware and cautious. Women get hot and heavy and throw away caution too. The real issue is that men expect women to take on all the responsibility and themselves none.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:34 PM
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Boys are told about the risks of pregnancy and men know what the risks are. They just largely don't care. They see pregnancy as a 'woman's issue'. They expect that women will be on contraception - and if something goes wrong with that, she'll have an abortion. They are taught what the risks are but they still treat themselves as children and women as adults. Women are expected to take on all responsibility while men expect to take on none. (In saying the above, I don't mean all men, but just a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:32 PM
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Why the hell can women give up a baby for adoption without the permission of the father? Can they? That doesn't seem right at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:20 PM
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I've got daughters, and have zero doubts about my ability to strong-arm them into an abortion if they get knocked up in high school or college. What if you fuck up their lives by doing so? What if they can't get past it? https://psychcentral.com/lib/understanding-abortion-grief-and-the-recovery-process/ There is an incredibly stupid 'study' that claims to know how the majority of women feel after abortion by whether or not they use anti-depressants. But people who don't feel 'worthy' of seeking …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:11 PM
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What? You can't have women pair bonding young and giving up their independence if men don't do the same??? Where is the logic in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:58 PM
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"always believe women" I didn't mention that. But the saying is "believe women" not "always believe women". It means to not automatically discount what a woman says because she's a woman. But, I disagree with it, because I prefer things to be stated plainly. And there is always going to be a small percentage who will be lying instead of telling the truth, and they should not be believed. Or the fuckheads who want to penalize men for the pay gap, even though it's 90% women's own choices that are …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 06:13 AM
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I was just giving a translation of the statements in the OP. We do not have such a world in the west because people, by and large, don't want it. But there are some elements in our society who would welcome such a world in, as long as they got to have sex (or rape without fear of reprisal).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 05:24 AM
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Men could, if they wanted to. They have before after all. Truth. And, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 10:37 PM
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missing out doesnt mean itsa not their imperative. they are failures or theyve compromised their imperative Well then, you've confused me by saying " because if one sex achieves 100% of its imperative it must be at the expense of the other sex's imperative" If that is so, then men can never achieve 100% of their imperative, right? It's impossible. Things would be far, far worse for men if they followed this imperative than if the world followed 'women's imperative'.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 10:09 PM
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that is not the RP conception of the male sexual imperative Then what is it? All I've seen is rp saying that men's imperative is to have sex with as many fertile women as possible. (Throughout history, this has often meant forcing sex on women in harems or as spoils of war etc) If the answer is polygyny, then that means many men missing out, so that can't be the men's imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 09:28 PM
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because if one sex achieves 100% of itrs imperativ eit must be at the expense of the other sex's imperative That's only if you believe that sex imperatives are true and beneficial. I believe neither. And if all men got their 'sex imperative' of running about forcing sex on any woman they choose and running away again (as rp puts it) - human life would be over and done in a few generations. Men wouldn't 'win' in such a world. Such a world would be at everyone's expense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 09:22 PM
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It takes funding that could have gone towards free tampons or other bullshit for women It doesn't work like that. If everything is pro-woman at the expense of men, women will suffer. If everything is pro-man at the expense of women, men will suffer. Things are only good for all of us if we all have as equal a piece of the pie as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 09:17 PM
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One thing that bothers me a bit in subs like this is that one of the sexes get categorized into "Chads", "Betas", etc. and the other gets a "score" or rating from 1-10. Yes, it's nutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 09:11 PM
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It's not so much a zero sum game as it is a 'prisioner's dilemma' kinda game. Both sides can gain so much more from cooperation, but the logical strategy is to be selfish. Yep. Which is why we've had so much war.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 09:11 PM
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The problem is (for our societies) that feminists don't understand it. Generally, women can have 80% of what they want by only taking away 20% of the freedom of men. However, feminists want 100% and ignore that in order to get the remaining 20%, you have to take away 80% of the freedom of men. When you are the gender who has held the power for so long, the other gender gaining some rights seems like you're losing everything. No one is taking away men's freedom. Men are not losing the right to vo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 09:07 PM
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You're right that it's a polarised mentality. I think these kinds of people have a lot more trouble navigating the world than most.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:56 PM
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The losers are really women, because yes they get to be free and have fun and later on form a family with a nice beta, but they end up miserable with this beta. rp fallacy. The men were all betas the whole way. When she was ready, she chose one of them for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:51 PM
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Exactly. Men wanting women to pair bond at a young age and form a family may sound detrimental to women on the short run (they can't find themselves through many experiences, and they give up part of their independence and power to their man), but is beneficial to everyone (including them) on the long run. Should men also pair bond at a young age and give up their independence and power to their woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:45 PM
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If you’re a woman, it benefits you to be a feminist and to be merciless to betas and omegas Translation: If women weren't so damned feminist, they'd be giving out sex to every man who looks their way If you’re a man, it benefits you to know when to not care what women think and when to not listen to what they say. Translation: men should be able to create a cold, dark world of hate and violence, to get a better chance at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:44 PM
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There's too much shit to do to have children before 30. At least for a dude. Yep. For both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 10:03 AM
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Try reverse atoms next time No such thing. Unless you're talking about atoms becoming re-localised. And then it's just the same thing, as it was before.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 10:02 AM
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They're still your kids. Obvious comment is obvious. They might now be damaged fucked-up angry kids who she has to deal with, while he walks away with his 'new family'. Neither scenario is a good one. Both result in humiliation, shock and anger. Men never have to deal with their wives having made another family in another house, and women never have to deal with their children not being biologically theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 09:54 AM
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I'd be curious to hear what women think the most comparable thing would be. Finding out that he has kids to another woman, and has been having sex with her the whole time. And finding out that she and those kids got the best of him, while he was a shit husband and father to you and your kids. The pain of not only being abandoned by your husband by also watching the pain your children experience in being abandoned by him would be enormous. ​ Having a husband who says he "doesn't want kids" and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 12:21 AM
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So it is specific to eras and culture. You said "why has it suddenly become a thing?" Your words. I was simply demonstrating that it isn't sudden and has been a thing for a very, very long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 12:17 AM
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In your early 20s, most men and women are low RMV, whether high SMV or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 12:11 AM
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Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 12:07 AM
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Yep. That's what my two older sisters have done.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 12:06 AM
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The wall-metaphore generally describes a point in life where you experience a drastic decrease in options over a relatively short timespan - so if you're ugly by nature, there isn't much of a wall to hit. Oh don't get me wrong. I don't agree with the rp concept of the wall. I was just making a point that a 13 year old girl can't have hit the wall. That's ludicrous because she wasn't at her 'sexual peak' beforehand (again, framing this in rp theory).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 12:03 AM
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Men are not women clap clap clap It's interesting to reverse genders sometimes to see where the stodgy, biased thought patterns lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 11:59 PM
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I was basing that on the two people being exclusive. If she's asked him to wait for her to be ready for sex, I assume exclusivity. And I assume she expects he's waiting and not running about having sex with other women. If they are not exclusive, no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 11:58 PM
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How is it cheating to date multiple people before exclusivity? I was basing that on the two people being exclusive. If she's asked him to wait for her to be ready for sex, I assume exclusivity. And I assume she expects he's waiting and not running about having sex with other women. If they are not exclusive, no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 11:58 PM
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It's not "too old" for either men or women to have kids in their 40s. I'm just saying it's not the best option. But it's fine. Mid-50s does seem over the line. Way over the line. Why did he leave it so late? His sperm won't be of the same quality as that of a younger man - that's even if he's able to get someone pregnant. And he'll be 75 or 80 by the time the kids reach 20. And most probably dead before the kids reach the age of 30. Any grandchildren will never know their grandfather.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 11:55 PM
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A chimpanzee alpha male would never think of using his power in order to go on holiday into the territory of a neighbouring chimpanzee band. We have human brains. We spread far and wide and have populated the whole planet. The elite of ancient Egypt spent their fortunes building pyramids and having their corpses mummified, but none of them thought of going shopping in Babylon or taking a skiing holiday in Phoenicia. They were focused on death and immortality. Why would they consider their human …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 11:50 PM
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A rich guy is more likely to be unattractive - those are just the odds. To me, that's not worth it. Because I have to sleep beside him every night and see him first the in the morning. If the guy isn't rich but is everything you could hope for, it might not be worth giving him up for your freedom. He generally will be ok with not having kids for a lot of years - and kids would be what tie you down the most. A rich (older) guy would prob want kids fairly soon (as he's in his 30s or 40s and he nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 11:44 PM
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Why has this only suddenly become a thing, and even then only for a very particular strain of socioeconomic class, if it is so universal and timeless? It's not sudden. People who can afford to, generally do and have, no matter which era.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 11:38 PM
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So if Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Gosling, Chris Evans, or Chris Hemsworth approached a 25 year old woman, she wouldn't find them objectively attractive. Those men are rich movie stars. They are also more attractive than 80% of men. Also, I stated that men can be attractive at age 35 and older - just not most of them. Even if they were just normal guys with decent careers looking exactly like those guys do? Depends what she wants. For me, it's a no. I like guys my age. I don't want to get tied down and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:43 PM
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I've seen that 'study'. If men peaked at 50, young women would be racing after 50 year old men. But they are not. A 50 year old man is 7 years older than my father. There is just no way he is "peak" in my eyes. Stats clearly show that people marry and partner people who are between 1-3 years of their own age. And this is becoming increasingly true. Online dating is full of sugar babies and sugar daddies pretending that they are not. These are not romantic relationships but are based on money tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:40 PM
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"traveling" "finding yourself" etc. are all socially constructed fictions. It's just more stuff to fill our lives with and not have feared missing out on. They are not fictions. The more you live and the more you broaden your horizons the more you know about yourself and what you truly believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:33 PM
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college age tart Why do you describe college women as tarts?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 09:27 PM
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You are overlooking one key factor affecting why the 'outcomes' of relationships show a preference for women picking someone closer to their own age. Namely social stigma. There is a strong culture of shaming that happens when a younger woman ends up with an older guy. That's not why. Women like men their own age because they have more in common and the guy is more attractive than an older man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 09:23 PM
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even though it's TRP 101 that men's RMV peaks at 36 That's cute you're going by trp's desperate assertions. It's not vaguely true. The majority of women want a guy close to their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 09:09 PM
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I've been checked. No problems in sperm or t count here. Thanks! They're only just starting to understand sperm mutations and how they increase year by year. You do not know if you have problems. Men over 40 have far more trouble getting a woman pregnant than a younger man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:58 PM
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a scientific fact that women's fertility, as well as number of eggs, declines with each passing year, and sharply after 30 It declines sharply after 40. The potential for conception is also greatly affected by the man's age, which is why it's a very bad idea for a woman to choose to be with a man much older than herself, if she wants to have kids. His sperm is also mutating with each passing year. The best age for both men and women to have kids is between 25 and 35. Between 30 and 35 is probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:48 PM
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Let's be real, this is not true. Even teenage girls find (attractive) 35 year old men attractive, often more so than guys their age... I'm 20. Men of 35 are not more attractive than men aged 18-25. Men aged 18-25 are hot and fun to be around. Many men are still attractive at 35 and older but most are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:41 PM
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A woman in her early to mid 20s would have gone to college and therefore doesn’t need to be a homemaker just because she married. She can have the same, if not better, career prospects after getting married. In the scenario given, she would have had kids. Because the man she married was in his 30s and therefore he needed to start having a family, otherwise he soon would have been in his 40s and getting too old for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:32 PM
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Even then, what has she really missed out on? Casual sex? She's spent all her 20s with one man (who turned out to be a dickhead), when she might have been far better off going on adventures, seeing the world and understanding more about herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:30 PM
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So you mean any attractive masculine men are worthless for relationships? Cheating doesn't make you masculine. It's carries an air of desperation. And it's not attractive to cheat. So no, I don't mean attractive, masculine men are worthless for relationships. Guys who are prepared to hang with you and build something meaningful are the ones who are worth it. The others are trashy in terms of anything meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:46 AM
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If men were treated the same as women in "rp theory", rp would say that you've been following AF/BB - you've been partying with alpha girls on the pussy carousel and now you've hit the wall and suddenly want a solid relationship with a beta girl. But because you're a man, rp will say you're simply a blue-pilled mangina who needs to read the sidebar and get back on the program. Rp 'theory' doesn't allow for normal human thoughts and behaviour. Everything is wrapped up tight in bullshit theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 05:33 AM
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BUT, they aint waiting on you for sex. theyre fucking other women while they wait and no one talks about it Those kind of men are worthless for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 05:25 AM
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Women won’t bang someone they don’t respect Yes they will. Depends on if she feels like sex or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 01:56 AM
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She sounds great. And you sound great too for describing your partner in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:21 AM
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Minimum wage + half the housework? Something is wrong here, if (and only if) you spend most of the money she should do most of the chores. What the fuck? That couple have kids, and I'm assuming she also does a lot of care for the kids. You guys with your outdated attitudes to housework are what is killing marriages everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:20 AM
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I agree on all your points.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:15 AM
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Me: I want sex, dude. I demand access to your body. Him: Can't get it up right now, babe, sorry. Totally tired out. Me: Can't you do something else to help me out? Oral? Him: Sorry, I don't feel like doing that when I'm not into it. Me: ok then I should be able to go downtown and get sex right now. Him: " "
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 11:10 AM
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So why did feminists demand that affirmative action be banned in Sweden when it started helping men? You have a point. One consideration is that affirmative action wasn't meant to give people positions in place of more qualified people. It was meant to stop employers/universities from unfairly choosing men (or white men) over women/minorities with the same qualifications. As far as I understand, less qualified men were being given positions. I don't have the whole picture though. I know that men…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 11:03 AM
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Oh my bad I meant most hot women It would make far more sense for branch swingers to be insecure women who believe they'll have a hard time getting someone else if they leave the boyfriend they've got. Hot women don't have those concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 07:05 AM
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Most of the women we don't want nah just most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 07:04 AM
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says who Says what women commonly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:37 AM
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Maybe you should be asking a feminist this question. Feminism is supposed to be for equality of the sexes right? Feminism is that but it is also to fix the balance and gain women equal power. Men need to step up and start lobbying for their own concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:36 AM
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No. Most women are never single. They go from guy to guy and have the next guy mostly lined up before letting the first guy go. Untrue. I have a lot of single girlfriends. I am also single. Most women will have an alone period before finding another guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:35 AM
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Sure there was, but there wasn't oddball men staying home and realizing other men's kids. Nothing oddball about that. See the African bushmen tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:32 AM
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The women basically sat back and let the men take the hit. Sounds like you were there. What happened when sabre tooths attacked the camp when only women were there? Do you think women wouldn't have protected the children and elderly? ​ > I'm sorry at what age do men become sterile again? It becomes harder and harder for a man to impregnate a woman from age 40 onward. Inability to get an erection or maintain an erection, issues with sperm motility and quality and other health issues. A small perc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:44 PM
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If she does not consider him her best choice she will always be subconsciously on the look out for a better man and for the better option present himself she will move on to it. Yet, when most young women are unhappy with the man they are with, they simply end the relationship - without there being another man she is 'swinging to'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:37 PM
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Men spend their whole lives working and building civilization literally growing the food that you eat. Marriage demotes them into humiliated junior employees of an overweight middle aged woman who has barely earned or done anything in her life. Most women engage in paid work. Building civilisation includes the raising of children - the most vital of the civilisation jobs. Most women who are middle-aged and overweight have middle-aged and overweight husbands. Most men are not 'humiliated junior e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:57 PM
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Men on average work longer hours than women and get don’t get paternity leave. Why aren't men lobbying for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:43 PM
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Maybe I exaggerated I'm just amazed you believed any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:30 PM
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13 year old girls and boys have to put in effort to be relatively attractive to girls and boys in their age group. A lot of them are too young to care. They certainly won't feel the desperation that is attached to 'the wall'. Some 'unattractive' boys and girls will become attractive with age - sometimes very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:30 PM
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I don't have a LTR. With women I don't think it's just about the man's body, but everything about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:27 PM
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We’re talking about cases where consent is present, even if she verbally says “no”. I fully understand this. What you don't understand is that it's being implied that most women (with a man whom they have consented to sexually before) would get instantly hot if he had sex with her even if she said no.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:25 PM
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Yep I know some people are viewed as less attractive than others. I'm just saying that the concept of 'the wall' doesn't apply to a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:23 PM
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You said: " The wall is only when you spot putting in the requisite effort to be attractive, or when that effort doesn’t matter anymore." How does that even relate to a 13 yr old girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:54 PM
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“Male-like movements” Swinging her dick as she walks....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:51 PM
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Maybe specific groups of women are raped more often? Yes they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:44 PM
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People can be ugly at 13. Hitting the wall is about being past your sexual attractiveness peak. A 13 year old has not been at their sexual peak and shouldn't be spoken of in those terms. It's totally ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:44 PM
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A mod called me ugly and a 4.5 because I was black Omg. No words.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:39 PM
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For some people the wall could be 13 What the hell? This...this is what I'm talking about folks....this...weirdness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:37 PM
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The day I discovered the red pill was funny and sad at the same time. Those guys are in a bitter bubble all of their own. The 'theory' is trash and I take no stock in it at all. If you were shattered by it, you're far too sensitive to be on the internet. Weirdos tucked away in endless corners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:33 PM
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Question. What makes you the defacto authority on this? You offered no facts in your "rebuttal". I'm not an authority. But from talking with lots of young women, I know we like to feel aroused before sex happens. Dragging a woman off to the bedroom works if that's her kink. Otherwise, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:28 PM
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You mean, gang members are killed by gang members and that's it? FFS, I said 'specific groups'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:26 PM
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So you solve the problem by NO always meaning NO and any woman who has a problem with this can learn to use her words. Agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:48 PM
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Actually it's very normal for women to want to be "raped" by men they would have willingly fucked. Normal. Not common. And the word is 'ravished' not 'raped'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:48 PM
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Has it ever occurred to you feminists that the bulk of men actually hate the whole concept of rape and genuinely don't want to hurt women? Feminists believe this. Otherwise they all would have set sail for feminist island decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:43 PM
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I truly believe most women are like this. They are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:41 PM
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So from purely sexual standpoint, marriage is bad for women and you'd rather have multiple men and sexual variety? I think once women have made a choice, they can stick to it. And they get their 'variety' from erotic novels or porn. Marriage isn't bad for women - it's a choice they willingly make. But marriage is a better deal for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:40 PM
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While you're also unlikely to be robbed -- we're living in the safest period ever -- robbery is still many times more common than stranger rape. Yes it is. Many times. It's generally not something people spend much time worrying about though. Because you can hand over your wallet and live. You generally won't experience some deep and traumatic "loss of self" afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:36 PM
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Men more often commit crimes and men more often are victims of crimes. E.g. murders. You are repeating the same thing. 'Men' does not mean men in general. It's generally very specific groups of men who are murdered. It's disingenuous to claim that all men face the same kind of risks. They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:33 PM
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What? All women who have different views than you are unusual? What? What? Nope. But most women prefer to have sex at a time of their choosing, rather than being dragged off to have sex randomly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:23 PM
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I don't know if I should laugh or cry. As none of this is remotely true nor does anything at all support this. If this was truly the case then human civilization would never be at the point it be at today. Hmmm seriously. Men are more apt to bring in cultural hegemony and authoritarian hegemonic thinking. Think of the authoritarian regimes of the past and how strong the patriarchy was in those - eg. Hitler's regime.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:57 AM
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Mostly when you started berating me for questioning a social program in the status quo. I berated you in a debate sub? Don't you mean I debated you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:52 AM
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They're not being "left out to die," they are being massively subsidized by via the labor of the relatively young and poor. That is exactly my point. Exactly. Where did you go astray?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:33 AM
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I would HATE what your wife likes. Your wife is unusual. Women please take note of this. You can help. I don’t like this way of doing things. What? All woman have to take note of something your wife likes?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 05:19 AM
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"Many" being tiny, insular, ostracized communities that will never receive mainstream acceptance. You have a perspective problem. No, you see it everywhere. Even doctors and the government don't seem to feel that women's sex drive is as important as men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 05:05 AM
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literally no one has to pay for that No one has to pay for old people? How do you figure that? Let them die?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:41 AM
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However, that doesn't mean its even remotely likely to happen walking home after a movie in Mayberry (or even a hell hole like Fresno). Pedophiles are in all suburbs - and so too are men who secretly desire to rape women. They might never carry it out, but they want to. Or they might have already done it but were not caught. There are guys out there right now watching rape porn and wanting to do the same to a woman. I have been followed by men a few times in 'safe' suburbs. I know that being fol…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:39 AM
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Marriage is an institution for men, to protect beta males. It's men who need monogamy due to sexual jealousy. Monogamy is hell for women. They are itching for variety as they have options I agree it's for men mostly. I think wanting variety is normal for both men and women but it's also a choice. Once the choice is made, the itch often goes away. Humans are capable of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:35 AM
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Imagine seriously believing this decades after the sexual revolution proved once and for all that it's women and not men who control the sexual mores of a civilization. And yet...there are still many men who believe that women are sexually submissive and need to be led by a man to arousal. You will see that over and over again in this forum alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:32 AM
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If men leave women , women would die in a week Wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:04 AM
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Women don't crave variety. Behaviour shows otherwise. But they still want monogamy. Yes, for children and stability. So do men. he sacrifice women make is sacrificing sex with the highest value male, not sexual variety. No, it's definitely sexual variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:03 AM
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There's half a billion shelters out there for women, including young and old women, not just for women who are taking care of someone. Half a billion??? Link please. What about the shelters for men? There are LOTS! The below is just a tiny sample of the many services for men. http://www.dccfh.org/programs/transitional-housing http://www.refugeofhope.org/mens-shelter/ https://wheelermission.org/our-work/mens-services/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 11:58 PM
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bribing women to have kids with mens tax money lol @ 'men's tax money'. Why don't men go live on islands away from women and see how far their 'tax money' goes and what it buys them. No society will ever force women to breed They would if women refused to breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 11:50 PM
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Can we stop pretending that any woman chooses to have kids as a part of some solemn duty to keep the human race going. No one is pretending that. Women don't take it on for that reason. But it doesn't negate the fact that it's vital that they do. When women choose to have careers and avoid having kids in growing numbers, the population just declines. That's it. No one holds women accountable. No one puts any obligation on women to go back to being the source of life. They decided to stop so that…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 11:32 PM
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No, we must start with ending the betafication and cuckery of men. Destroy video games and porn, let the weaker half die in the withdrawal process worse than ETOH withdrawal . Then the rest will go through a year long reform program similar to boot camp and come out bloodthirsty and ready to enforce a strong patriarchy Go forth with this brave idea and conquer! CONQUER! Let's see how many men follow you. A strong patriarchy is what has led this world to the brink of environmental destruction. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 11:31 PM
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Basically, men who don't have anyone to support, get no support, and women with no one to support, still get plenty of support Links please. What the hell are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 11:28 PM
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If I draw conclusions from these cherry-picked stories like you They are not cherry picked. ALL murders are reported - male or female. Women who live in developed areas have extremely low risk of being attacked, especially by strangers. This is what so many people ignore - the fact that it's because women take so many precautions they are not attacked more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 11:27 PM
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It's almost like birth control exists. It's almost like the human race would die out if women stayed on birth control their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:30 PM
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Those patriarchal rules are typically dictatorial and I kind of place it in the communism department, because its an oppressive system forcing people at the bottom except for a couple of Elites. Yes pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:24 PM
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Men only experience stranger robberies more because they are out alone more. Do you not get that women are attempting to protect themselves? Don't you think that criminals would rather rob a woman than a man if they could - an easier mark. the murderers and rapists are all by definition criminals Nothing I said is in opposition to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:09 PM
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If the guy's not committed to the girl, and he's not disclosing how many other women she is sharing him with, the number could be pretty high If the number is more than one other, then she would know. Because he won't be on call and around most of the time. Most women who'd accept a man seeing other women are seeing other men themselves. It's not a harem. The women aren't all having babies to the one guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:06 PM
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This is women's reality: raped twice on a walk home. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224814/Woman-raped-alley-stranger-night-sexually-assaulted-AGAIN-passer-lay-helpless.html It is only because most women do not walk home alone or drunk that this isn't happening all the time. As it is, 20% of rapes are by strangers. This number would soar if women were not constantly vigilant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:36 PM
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Would do you mean we already had that? That's happening now? We do not have harems. And terpers and others in this forum greatly inflate the numbers of women willing to share one guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:25 PM
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Stranger rape hardly every happens. I've handled thousands of felony cases over the last 13 years. A grand total of two stranger sexual assaults (both were too drunk to actually penetrate the victim). You are one person. Women walking home alone at night are at a high risk of stranger rape. Which is why women avoid doing this wherever possible. As I said, women are well aware of the high risks involved in doing this. The only reason it doesn't happen far more is because of the cautions women tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:24 PM
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Statistically I have shown that this is not true. Men are the majority of random violent crime. If you mean robbery, yes. I wouldn't and don't have a deep fear of robbery. I'm talking about rape and murder. MOST men are not in any danger of these kinds of violent crimes. Men who are criminals or in gangs are the ones with a risk of experiencing murder perpetrated by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:20 PM
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There's also the fact that the majority of sexual violence against women isn't committed by strangers. It's committed by men they know. Yes, because women trust men they know enough to get drunk or go to sleep in their presence. But if women trusted strange men more, they would be raped far more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:09 PM
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There's also the fact that the majority of sexual violence against women isn't committed by strangers. It's committed by men they know. Yes, because women trust men they know enough to get drunk or go to sleep in their presence. But if women trusted strange men more, they would be raped far more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:09 PM
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Men evolved to have random sex to maximise their chances at increased numbers of offspring I don't believe this in the slightest. I think that only happens when a society goes off-tap. The only reason women in such a society aren't doing exactly the same is pregnancy. I believe younger people generally want varied sex but both sexes want stability and a family as they grow older. The cad strategy must have had significant success or it would have been bred out of the gene pool. All men who work …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:08 PM
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Men evolved to have random sex to maximise their chances at increased numbers of offspring I don't believe this in the slightest. I think that only happens when a society goes off-tap. The only reason women in such a society aren't doing exactly the same is pregnancy. I believe younger people generally want varied sex but both sexes want stability and a family as they grow older. The cad strategy must have had significant success or it would have been bred out of the gene pool. All men who work …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:07 PM
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Somehow I am not afraid to step out of my door, even though I am more likely to be attacked by a person at random. Are you a man or a woman? Most men are not in any danger from anyone. At all. Which is why they don't worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:59 PM
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These are incredibly rare events. And when they do happen its almost always someone the woman knows not so random creep. Yet we see it in the news every single day. And as I said, women are well aware that if they went out at night alone, even in 'safe' neighbourhoods, they stand a risk of being raped or murdered. Women know that it's only by extreme caution that these things don't happen. In some places in the world, where men are not kept in check, brutal rape and torture are common. Men keep …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:54 PM
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Your theory and premise are wrong. Women desire orgasms their entire lives. Their bodies have evolved for just this purpose. The enormous sales of women's sex toys proves this point. Orgasms bring blood to the sex organs and this is healthy and normal for women. We have all evolved to desire frequent orgasms because it's healthy for our bodies. Women are affected by hormones during pregnancy and breastfeeding and menstrual cycles. They are also affected by the loss-of-self, loss of sleep and bod…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:45 PM
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Women are conditioned to be afraid by their peers No, the news does that. Take look at what is in the news every day. The rape and murder of women by men. Recently, a woman mistook a car for her uber ride. She was killed. Would that shit happen to a man? Nope. Nope, it wouldn't. ​ >70% of violent crimes committed by strangers are committed against males. That old chestnut. Most crime against men is criminals harming criminals or gang members. Most men have nothing to fear from other men. Whereas…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:17 PM
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Imagine a society where the alpha male fucks all the females, and the beta male gets none. We've already had that, with harems. It was shit. Some old mangy "alpha" sultan. ​ And the females lose out on sharing the alpha male sperm. Women don't want it. Seriously. There is no "alpha male sperm". The men who grabbed control in the past were simply psychopaths, brutal warlords or inherited power. Diversity of sperm is far more important. ​ The book “the rational male” explains marriage as a subtle …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:04 PM
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It was initially a joke by Owen Benjamin but it was interesting to think about. It goes hand-in-hand with men being individualist and women being collectivist. The most patriarchal societies are the ones that are the most collectivist and the societies that are more egalitarian are more individualist. Men, when they rule, get stuck in a collectivist rut. The entire society will get stuck in a rut. When women begin to share in the leadership roles and decision making, individuals begin to stand o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 02:45 PM
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end the thotification of women and restore virtue Start with ending the thotification of men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 01:48 PM
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All men pay for sex one way or the other. In that case, so do women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 01:30 PM
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If men defined women's sexuality the same way women defined men's, they'd riot. They do define it. They've controlled the information about women's sexuality for the longest time: women are sexually submissive, women's sex drive is reactive, women don't like sex all that much etc etc Women got tired of men defining their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 01:27 PM
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Again, how does this apply to the childless homeless women with no one under their charge? Again, my original comment (that you were responding to) spoke of both children and elderly parents, and responsibilities that men (largely) don't have. How it applies is that there are far, far more men without caring responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:05 AM
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Just be ready. Whatever you don't over invest in her. Over invest in yourself. One of those three things is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 10:42 PM
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Awwww sad... but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 10:41 PM
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At what point is somebody simply responsible for themselves and their kin, though? I get what you're saying. But what this means is that 'someone must be responsible for their kin and that someone is women'. That's what we mean when we say that. Men rule the world and make the most money simply because they do not have these caring roles holding them back (in general). It's the basic reason. Absolutely, I think we should care for our own. But by and large, men aren't asked to do the grunt work o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 10:31 PM
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Break the numbers down for childless women and see what their homeless rate is. Hint: not nearly as high as childless men. It's not that simple. Women care for more than children - aging parents, disabled siblings, disabled partners etc - and they work in caring professions and they do a lot of charity caring roles. Being responsible for someone else often gives you motivation to seek help and also often makes you stronger minded. If you only have yourself to care for, you can go off the rails f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 10:23 PM
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Well, by your definition that you provided above, it does. Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 10:20 PM
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But all women aren't going to stop having kids. Well, there are a few countries where the number of old people is so growing rapidly that the number of births is nowhere near enough to keep up. Old people need a lot of care and resources. Who do you think is going to pay for all that? The taxpayer. And where does the taxpayer come from? Women's wombs. And yep, if enough women decide not to have kids, it will absolutely be a problem. And it's already starting to happen. Look at Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 10:19 PM
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Went on a date with a guy who was pretty cute and I was honestly just trolling for sex -- he was such a cringe I ended the date after two drinks and went home. Yeah, you can tell when they pull out the well-worn lines, or they find ways to 'touch you' (thinking that 'this will make her hot for me'). Why can't they just be normal human beings?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 10:16 PM
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Protip: The overwhelming majority of women in the West are not forced to have kids No. But if they didn't, cue the gnashing of teeth as people everywhere lose their jobs - due to there not being enough people for companies to stay in business. In the end, having children is a choice. but not having children is also a choice. Both affect the economy. Not having kids is a luxury some people can have because of the people who do. I think we currently have too many people. But if most women suddenly…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 11:17 PM
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How would we even address this? Who is supposed to pay these mothers etc? Tax payers ? Hard to figure that one. But it's true that women are being used as free carers, and that that care underpins our whole society, and that they are not being reimbursed for that care. Women are providing the care that the taxpayer would have to fork out for if women didn't do it for free. Women also provide the human beings that buy goods and services and pay taxes when they grow up. The Swedish model is a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 08:56 PM
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Not this. The very definition that (s)he shared with us seems to confirm that receiving special advantages that are not available to others is privilege, just like the bird in this example. It's a well known example. It does not confer privilege to be in a cage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 08:51 PM
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Honestly dude, sometimes yes. I can think of a few kids from high school who worked under the table every night to support their siblings and then slept during class every day because they needed sleep. Life can be vicious, and humans will do what they gotta do. That's an awful situation. But if they are at school, they are not watching babies and toddlers in the home and probably not doing the food shopping etc etc. My argument was about women being in the care role far more often than men (eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 08:49 PM
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There objectively are. To deny this is nothing less than opportunistic political revisionism. No, there are not. And as it is, law policies advantage men over women: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/01/10/social-policies-dont-always-help-women-and-men-equally-we-did-the-math-on-which-work-best/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 08:47 PM
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Too old.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 08:41 PM
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youd fuck brad pitt or whoever your fav celeb is on the first date dont shit yourself Brad is almost 3 times my age. Just no. And I wouldn't sleep with someone just because of their fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 08:41 PM
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If a girl tells me she wants to take it slowly but also confided in me that she's had enjoyable sex with men much sooner before The only girl who would say that is a weirdo. Run! Men are allowed to have issues or anxieties, you know. Of course. I didn't say they can't or don't. I think you got hung up on the word 'anxious'. I'm saying that if a guy is pressuring a girl for sex then she should run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 08:38 PM
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Good post. If shes lukewarm, game can be just the edge you need. Or... game can push her into the 'not attracted at all' category. That has happened to me. He pulls out the game and I'm outta there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 09:01 AM
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any female for the right man would fuck on the first date. No
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 08:56 AM
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Her 12 year old is providing the care. The all to common scenario of a child being forced to become the parent. The 12 year old is staying at home and not going to school? Dressing the toddler every day? Shopping for food? Paying the bills? Providing a home of some sort? The 12 year old is doing all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 05:50 AM
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A recent example. Mom hits the bars every night leaving her 12 year old daughter to wander the streets with her two year old little brother who calls his big sister "mom" . That's awful. I know of lots of similar stories. But it's not women leaving home and wandering the streets as homeless people, as per my comment. The mother in your example is an alcoholic obviously, but she is still providing some sort of care (because the kids are alive). If she only had the two-year-old and left it home al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 05:26 AM
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You don’t have to do what you’re “expected” to do But if women don't do it, what else is there? and they’re also your relatives, who is supposed to pay you for this voluntary labor? Yes they are your relatives. But if you don't care for the elderly relatives, they might go into a home and then the government must pay for them (aka the taxpayer). If you don't care for your children, then they might grow up to be burdens rather than assets to the government. It's not exactly voluntary. The entire …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 05:21 AM
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The small pieces of the whole are what cause the problems though. The devil's in the details, as they say. But specific examples are not the rule. We all need to stand back and try to see the whole and not just our small piece of the pie.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 11:24 PM
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That’s exactly what feminism did, picked a limit: “Fortune 500 CEOs”, found out that they’re all men, decided that if they’re all men then there must be a global conspiracy between all men called the patriarchy that puts men in all the high paying jobs. Feminism doesn't believe in a conspiracy between men. We simply come from a system in which people were owned as property, and this system carried through for women at a time where men were gaining greater and greater options and rights in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:21 PM
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If a man is doing nothing at all to provide, most women will probably see that as a problem and very unattractive. If he's not even like paying for some things and not doing basic watchdog protection, most women will see that as undesirable. Agree. And nothing has changed in terms of women being the ones to have the children and spend far more time than men caring for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:15 PM
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There is truth in this. I like it that you see the whole picture. So many in this forum get stuck on small pieces of the whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:13 PM
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A gilded cage is not 'privilege', nor could it ever be. Privilege is power. The bird in the cage can be starved to death in that cage at the sudden whim of the master, who has actual privilege. This.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:07 PM
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That's such a ridiculous exagerration; they should be cringing but instead they are screaming that men are trash. Men are not trash. There are still tons of SAHMs and there have been studies showing it leads to better outcomes. Jobs used to pay enough for a whole household, now they pay closer to half a households worth of salary. The problem with the system of the SAHM (if most women are SAHMs) is that women cannot be part of the public sphere and the world is run and dominated by men. Very une…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:03 PM
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They certainly can and do -- with predictable results. Do tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 08:58 PM
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She can get a job or go to college. She's in a prison of her own making and she hold the key. lol Says a man who never had to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 08:52 PM
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Will there be any discussion of the redpill anymore on this sub? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 08:48 PM
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This is something I dispute heavily. Most men did not get educations or even start businesses or have trades really, they had whatever option was right in front of them. Maybe joining the military was another option. Depends what era we're talking about. Under feudalism, the lord owned all his serfs. Once that system was gone, women became the virtual property of their husbands, and were also seen as 'cheap labour' by their villages (cheaper than men's labour). Which brings right up to the prese…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 08:46 PM
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Nowadays I don't have to put up with any woman's sissy fucking bullshit. The era of providership is over You are absolutely correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 08:38 PM
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Ever hear the last name Webster? It means female weaver. Ever heard of anyone named Brewster? It's a female brewer. There were quite a few trades that women did. But - Woman-as-cheap-labor was a concept already well-established through the feudal system and was perpetuated by the guild system because women were legal non-entities and so could be paid less than a man. So, with the move from the feudal system, men proceeded to put the thumbscrews on women and use them as slaves. This carried right…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 08:35 PM
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Let me tell you how well women with substance abuse issues take care of their children and elderly parents. Just this week alone I've dealt with a woman that beat up her elderly father, a woman whose neglect resulted in the premature death of her elderly mother, and a woman who stole thousands of dollars from her elderly mother. There is some absolutely terrible behaviour, abuse and neglect from women, and these women should not be looking after anyone. What I said doesn't negate that. Try to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 08:11 PM
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What a disgusting exaggeration. Way to trivialize actual slavery, nice one. I'm not trivialising. I'm talking about slavery in terms of legal rights as a person. In the past, many women had absolutely no other options in life but to marry a man, be constantly pregnant and spend her days toiling in menial labour. Her husband likely had a manual labour job and was a slave to his boss, but men in general had a lot more options and legal rights in life than women. Slaves are denied the ability to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 01:56 PM
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​ In the meantime I hear what women did before the 60's was all unpaid labor, but they don't seem comprehend that those women were being paid by being taken care of and provided for in ways men never were and still aren't. Slaves are also 'taken care of and provided for'. A large percentage of women have always disliked their status and wanted to be able to have the same independence and access to income as men. All women are not 'wives of CEOs'. Most people are struggling through life. It's why…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 01:06 PM
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Yes, they would be. As visual may be pushing it? Men regurarly seek out visual pornography, while women are often said to prefer reading? If an attractive woman just undressed in an everyday, non-provocative manner, men would often be significantly aroused by it. Funny, if such things are hard-wired, then why are tribal men are not gawking at women's breasts and bare butts. The only reason any man seeks nudie pics is if women's bodies are hidden away under clothing. If men were suddenly hidden u…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 12:57 PM
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Thanks for your explanation. Women are as visual and sexual as men, but not as thirsty, because things are different for us. We also learn to practice self-control at any early age - to a far, far greater degree than men do. But if you are right and men want to have sex with all their female friends, aren't they better off not having female friends? Why do men persist in seeking these friendships? It's not a pathway to sex - any idiot knows that. So, why do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 04:20 AM
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You look down on these male friends, if they can’t fall in line and hide their true natures (of which you are already probably well aware in the first place) then "stay away". So, a man's 'true nature' is all about sex? No, I am not aware of that. Is that the only reason they laugh at my jokes? If so, they are really good actors. Grow up and realize that sexless relationships with hold no tangible and wholesome benefits for men. It’s just an arrangement where you keep men in line by shaming them…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 11:09 PM
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A man has nothing to lose making a move on his female friends. Multiple women here have demonstrated just how lowly they think about male friends. I don't believe that women here have commonly said they think lowly of their male friends. You must be pointing to very specific examples. I hold mine in the same esteem I hold my female friends. A friend is a friend. Men are great. Why wouldn't I want to be friends with a great guy who wants to be friends with me? There are lots of males and females …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 09:14 PM
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Very rarely/almost never has a woman ever asked me what my n-count was before we had sex. Dude, they don't care because they just want a root. OP is asking about a 'SO'.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:45 AM
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Nothing to do with n count, but I have seen girls seemingly change perspectives about their SO when they find out about some of the people theyve slept with. Particularly when they arent hot. That would really get to me, too. I'd see him as having little self-respect or discernment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:40 AM
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YES x 1000. I didn't think too much about the why before I joined this forum. But if I perceive he's had a lot of women (or even if he hasn't but I perceive him as playing the 'numbers game') it's a big fat no from me. I hate to admit it, but I don't see him as having enough value to consider having a relationship with. He's just not the kind of man I want. It makes him instantly unattractive. And that goes if he's a sports star, too. I've been asked out by men who are well-known in my city. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:27 AM
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Heterosexual men’s emotions towards attractive women are generally always sexualized. They are not platonic no matter what. In that case, men should never pretend and be friends with women. Just stay away.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:18 AM
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Yes, somehow women are well aware that the friendship won’t be "ruined" for the man in the overwhelming majority of the cases. You mean because he's quite ok to detonate the friendship for the chance to get his dick in? Then it was never a friendship from his end. He was just waiting and watching.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:15 AM
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denying sex to a man is a definitive trait of the friendship. DENYING? What the hell? Women do not deny their friends sex - it's a given that there is no sex in a friendship. Unless a FWB has been established. And then it's not exactly a friendship - it's become something else. If I don't have sex with friends it's not because they are friends, but because they are males Would you DENY a male friend who wanted to have sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 09:49 PM
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I find the two competing narratives interesting: "sex is no big deal," and "sex is such a big deal that it ruins friendships." Sex is no big deal if you're not going to see the person again, or just for a few weeks over a summer break. It's a huge deal if you're going to have a relationship with a person - either friendship or romantic. Because then, sex can be all wrapped up in emotions and life directions and many other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 09:44 PM
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I don't think he is red pilled, just young and confused. He's red pilled because he's buying into their assertions and taking it on board. Blue pill people do not see the world through any pill lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 12:19 AM
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I don’t tend to believe most of the worst RP assertions about the nature of women. You believe enough of their assertions to be red pill. I fall for women who show interest pretty easily and am quick to try and prove my worth by being very nice and available. That's not blue pill. You just fall for women easily. You're buying into red pill 'theories' of red and blue men. Most red pillers do a lot of that - falling for women or being clingy, beta etc. They're just trying not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 12:09 AM
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No dude. It was outlining hard facts and figures relating to France.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 10:28 PM
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If you feel like you have a "reasonable expectation" of something, than you feel "entitled" to that thing. Not at all. Not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 10:27 PM
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Nobody is claiming that people are ACTUALLY entitled to sex. It's all about FEELING entitled. If you FEEL entitled, then the entitlement is in your head. Okay, but that contradicts your statement previously that you aren't feeling entitled if you are given consent. We've been over this. No contradiction. You do not FEEL entitled if you are given consent. FEELING ENTITLED is when you DO NOT KNOW if you have consent. Accepting an entitlement is knowing you have consent. Will leave you with that. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 04:24 PM
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You have a feeling of entitlement that is THEN granted to you by the other party. You don't seem to understand the difference between feeling entitled and actually being entitled to something. That statement in and of itself assumes you consider yourself entitled even when you don't yet have consent. If you're given an entitlement, that's consent. That's what consent is. You're entitled to kiss someone who asked you to kiss them. They gave you that entitlement. Entitlement can of course be withd…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 04:16 PM
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Why make up your own definitions? It's an understanding of the definitions. This defeats your premise. You said you aren't entitled if you are granted consent. Now you are entitled but your entitlement is granted. You're all over the place and contradicting yourself. No. I said you only consider yourself entitled if you do not have the consent of the other party. Other people can grant you entitlements if they wish. You can decide to accept or reject those entitlements. For example, you're danci…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 04:06 PM
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correct, he did not give the reverse of scenario A, his reversal was 'woman is bought dinner and doesn't put out', not whacking off in her own socks. I am getting a strange and unwanted visual of Smoogs arriving home after a dinner date - him splooging into the towels and the woman whacking off into her socks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:59 PM
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She can always have a better life with another man? That or her freedom. People who consider their relationships a sacrifice are the problem to begin with. It was a chore? And this I mean for either sex. I'm just using the same terminology as the post I was replying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:57 PM
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You're making up your own definitions. I'm explaining my understanding of entitlement. If she gave me a kiss, it doesn't cancel out the fact that I felt entitled to it. No it doesn't cancel out your feelings. If you gained consent, your entitlement is fulfilled. You have an entitlement granted to you by the other party.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:54 PM
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Me too. Even the towels feel entitled to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:49 PM
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Entitled in an aggregate sense, not so much at any given moment though. This.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:47 PM
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Smoog's house is full of spoogey towels.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:43 PM
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No, it's thinking you are deserving of special treatment regardless of consent. No. Without consent. If you have consent, you are not acting entitled. So it would be entitled to expect sex after dinner? In our society, it's not a reasonable expectation, so no. As I said, sex in return for food is prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:40 PM
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Entitlement in the context you are using it is thinking you are special when you do not have the consent of other people to consider you special. You think you are entitled to it anyway. The couple who are dating have given their consent to consider each other as special. A dinner with a date is consent to consider the other as special enough to have dinner with only. Why can't acting entitled be reasonable? It's a reasonable expectation to kiss after a date. You can still feel entitled to such …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:33 PM
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a) A man and woman are dating. He brings her out to a romantic Valentines Day dinner. Once back home, he jerks off into a towel and passes out. She becomes upset. She's not being entitled. The ground rules of a "romantic valentine's day dinner" are commonly acknowledged as being a night in which your partner has your full attention. The two are already a couple in which intimacy has been part of their relationship. b) A man and woman are dating. They are both at a bar having a night out. She get…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:18 PM
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Wut? The children still exist. She still sacrificed everything to be with him and continues to do so on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 02:58 PM
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No, seriously, thy problem is bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 02:56 PM
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You're not the first woman to try to claim an exemption from her biology. That is the most ridiculous thing I've seen this month. Women are very different to each other. Blame it on the genes. Too many men are systemisers who try to put women in a basket, but they will never understand the complexity and variety of women. Never. Statements like that prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 01:47 PM
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Yet all your boyfriends were strong minded, confident and assertive, they went to you, they flirted with you, they escalated, they did everything and barely cared about your consent. And those who are arrogant are those who do that but you're not attracted physically. You have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 01:42 PM
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You are not blue pill. Blue pill would never see things or categorise things the way you have. You're red pill all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 01:37 PM
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ALMOST ALL conditions for love are EXTERNAL for a woman. She loves him for what HE does for HER and for how HE makes HER feel. Nah. She loves him for giving her his best years, staying by her side, the way he fathers their children, the way he smiles, the way he laughs.... A lot of "conditions" for love are internal for men. Men may (or, sometimes, may not) love a woman for the fact that she gave birth to his children and gave him her best years. Men may (or may not) love a woman for sacrificing…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 01:30 PM
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I am happy to help. Wouldn't want people to think you're an idiot that doesn't understand the difference between a quantitative study and a qualitative assessment that amounts to opinion now, wouldn't we. Hey Bud, you just stepped way beyond your pay grade. You do not understand what a qualitative assessment is. The information that I posted is based on hard numbers. On studies that measure numbers. Go back in your corner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 01:22 PM
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They can't get boyfriends, not the type they want. Who can't? Women who have casual sex can't get boyfriends? That's some strange thought processes you've got going on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 04:13 AM
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I'm confused what this is about. Is it about women having sex who don't really want to? Or women in general who are having sex. Yes there are both men and women with mental issues who are having sex. As well as autism - women with autism apparently fall prey to men in fairly high numbers. In general though, women who like casual sex just like casual sex. Sex is really just sex. Especially if you go away, it's fun to meet a new guy and sleep with him. I've only done this twice, and both times wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:36 AM
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Women don't like sex just for sex sake. If they do something is wrong with them mentally. Ok, that's enough internet for you today. You're obviously 12.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:02 AM
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They're seeking male affection. Because they have daddy issues Nope, because they'd get boyfriends if they wanted that. You keep mentioning daddy issues. You are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:01 AM
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Happy women don't seek that garbage Do 'happy men' seek that garbage, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:00 AM
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I will say from my experience, most girls doing casual sex are not happy and have a bunch of issues.... Usually daddy issues I don't see that. What I see is my friends who do that going away on holidays a lot and having sex with guys they meet. They think it's fun. They're figuring themselves out. No daddy issues. I don't know if "act" is the right word but society is definitely pushing them to do stuff that doesn't really make them happy. Don't worry, they're fine. Not being pushed. And it does…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 02:59 AM
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If a woman has her wild/adventurous phase, then her desires change later on to settle down and find a partner, is it not fair that the partner is upset that he didn’t get to share that adventurous phase with her? No. Because he obviously didn't know her back then. If he doesn't like women who had party days, then he should stick with girls who never partied.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 02:53 AM
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alcohol doesn’t change what you want, it just makes you less inhibited to go get what you want. You still wanted it before. I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 02:47 AM
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I amended my post so that your pendantic sensibilities do not continue to be offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:54 PM
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As a person that can usually recall any given memory, I find all I need is a small trigger or stimuli before I’m in memory lane again. This “choosing to not remember” thing feels entirely alien to me lol It's just that there's not much to remember. Part A slots into Part B and so on. And if you don't like him anymore, you don't think about the sex you had with him. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:51 PM
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marriage rates dropped considerably. you're not catching up with the latest news. Wives or partners - same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:47 PM
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building a wall might be a solution to reduce trafficking of both people and drugs. Drugs are easier to bring in and out. But people need a passport. Unlike Europe where people can be hidden in vehicles and taken from country to country.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:46 PM
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Men pursue, women select. If women didn't select for the best, our species would suck. Both men and women select for the same thing - a spouse who will make a good parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 02:07 PM
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In its original meaning it meant women's tendency to marry men of higher status than their own. So even then it didn't simply mean "more selective". No, it meant higher caste and was an Indian term. It doesn't translate well to the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 02:03 PM
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That's a critical number because sexually unsatisfied or frustrated young males have always been cause of social unrest during history. Always? Suffragettes caused social unrest. And the poor, both male and female, have caused unrest. Men without sex is a poor contender for unrest. Men without wives is a far bigger concern. And that generally happens when there are more men than women, for whatever reason. That's not the case in the west. Most people who want to get married will eventually marry…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 01:54 PM
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Prostitution would become the biggest sector of the economy by far. No. That hasn't happened in countries where it is fully legal. Most women do not want to be sex workers. Pussy triumphant... the wage gap reversed in an instant. lol sex work would be so cheap in your scenario that the wages for sex workers would be low. And women in general would be treated with a lot less respect. The wage gap would be huge. ​ The stigma around prostitution would diminish after legalization, helped along by fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 01:34 PM
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Yeah and Australia also has very low rates of sex trafficking too. Because it's an island.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 01:22 PM
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I don't have that much experience, but it's not so much that I don't remember but that I don't care. As soon as a relationship goes bad, I don't want to sit around recalling which body part did what to whom. The next guy will have my full focus.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 01:18 PM
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Apart from that, that's not a study, you fucking moron. It's an analysis of many studies. You mucking foron.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 01:09 PM
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Situational hypergamy is a redundant way of saying hypergamy. Not in this forum. The common meaning is that it is hard wired.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 01:05 PM
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People generally date people who are in the same range but you’ll see more 7 women dating 5-6 men than vice versa, You’ll almost never see a 10 guy with a 3 woman but you sometimes see a 3-4 guy with an 8-9 woman. I see what I consider to be unattractive women with highly attractive men all the time - the thing is that these men must find the woman attractive, even though I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 04:38 AM
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You mean they are if they can be. I meant they aren't if they can be. This doesn’t say they aren’t. It does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 04:34 AM
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Anyways, it doesn’t matter about looks. It’s about masculinity and energy and presence and power and social status, not how guys look No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:11 PM
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If ugly guys were praised by society then women would go for ugly guys, if that’s what you’re asking. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:11 PM
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Women can fuck more attractive men, men can date more attractive women. No. People generally date people who are about as good looking as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:09 PM
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most women's sexual attraction is very influenced by a man's ambition/career But his looks are the initial attractor and cannot be otherwise. Women are highly visual. We can spot a hot guy from a long distance away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:05 PM
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No man I know cares about how much money a woman he is interested in has, or what job she has. Yay for anecdotes. Men care a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 05:58 PM
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You are correct. But don't expect the kind of minds who populate this forum to understand what you're saying. They're incapable. This French analysis of studies on this subject confirms what you are saying: Fewer Singles among Highly Educated Women. A Gender Reversal of Hypergamy Across Cohorts in France
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 05:55 PM
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You failed to understand the OP. Women are NOT hypergamous. It's purely situational. https://www.cairn-int.info/article-E_POPU_1504_0705--fewer-singles-among-highly-educated.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 05:52 PM
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Funnily, Grindr is older than Tinder. And other dating apps are older than Grindr.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:08 AM
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I still don’t quite get why it seems to dominate over the other features in this list, but maybe that’s just my perception. It doesn't dominate. Lots of people with genetic disorders are shorter because of it. Diseases that make you taller are very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:08 AM
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One of those forces is vastly weaker than the other Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:05 AM
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How is penis size a selector? Anything above a micropenis can get a woman pregnant lol True. But it's an indicator of maleness. Just like men selecting for bigger breasts when big breasts are not needed to feed babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:05 AM
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There are numerous studies showing that most women aren't that interested in still photographs. They are proven WRONG by all the dating apps that women use. Women would have no interest if still pictures didn't interest them. All we'd have is face-to-face meetups. And only gay men would use dating apps. Most women like video, and most women like stories, but most women are completely unaroused by still photographs. Everyone prefers these. Hence why we'll pay good money to watch a movie or a talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 07:38 AM
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Life expectancy is not the most important factor. Do men select for life expectancy of females? No. Women select for health above all else. Men who - - are young (best for fertility and strength) - have even facial features (no deformities) - are tall for their culture (a marker for not having poor nutrition or a genetic deformity/illness) - have full head of hair (not old. Protection from skin cancer. Though, in the modern age, we're realising baldness is not a negative, so this selection might…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 07:27 AM
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It would be great to see it. Especially the apps in which women approach men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 07:14 AM
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And that doesn't translate into jack shit. Especially since studies show consistently that women aren't that interested in still pictures, period. Hahahahahahahaha Where the fuck do you get that from? Women are extremely interested in photographs of men - which is one of the prime reasons why online dating has exploded.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 07:11 AM
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Current so is 20 but I have dated all age ranged we just happen to work and she also happens to be younger. think what you will I aint loosing sleep over what you think of my relationship. If you don't purposely seek out very young women then what I said does not include you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 07:09 AM
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This is exactly what I mean. You want someone who you perceive needs you and can learn from you. Easier to manage. It's due to vulnerability within you, as you illustrated. Thanks for sharing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 07:08 AM
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You are so childish, It's apparent. Go ahead attack my spelling it shows only weakness in your argument. Go back and look at what you said. I was just copying your tone and format.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 07:05 AM
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Youth will always have biological value to men. That's extreme youth. It's an aberration of culture when men select for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 07:04 AM
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Just because I am attracted to younger chicks doesnt mean it because they are easier to dominate. It depends on how young. If younger than 20 and you are older than that, you are likely afraid of women and you want a woman you perceive as easier to manage. I recently turned 20 and this is my perception of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:00 PM
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Women with hips and tits have always been valued. But in some cultures, men have zeroed in on the young girls - which are children with slim hips and small/no breasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 10:57 PM
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You are effectively saying Social Constructs (Culture) drives biology. Its flat wrong. Biology drives culture. Biology drives culture. Culture drives biology. If you think on it, you'll see many examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 10:53 PM
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Thanks for the armchair psych. You keep on doing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 10:50 PM
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Most of red pillers were and are anger phasers/black pill/annoying. Can't keep debating the same old tired slodge forever. It's juvenile stuff. Fun to debate for a while but ultimately pointless. The only rp stuff that is any good is stuff that was already accepted by the mainstream, so it's not specific to rp. Anything specific to rp is very, very silly stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 08:15 PM
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In this scenario, you are in a coma. You are not going to get any physical closeness or love from your husband sticking his dick in your mouth. And he might just choke you with his dick or sperm without realising - yay for coma sex! Also, bjs are my least favourite sex thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 08:56 AM
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I guess you could have preserved your sex life with her, had you stayed together. I'll see myself out....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 08:54 AM
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Did she have a graveyard sort of aroma?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:15 AM
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What is that hospital bed doing in our bedroom, honey?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:13 AM
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YES. I would still want the closeness and body contact and stimulation - who knows, it might bring me out of the coma. Also, causing blood to flow around the body is good for it. I would still want him to hug me and cuddle up to me and tell me what he feels for me - sex is just an extension of that. It wouldn't just be him using my comatose body for his self-gratification but it would be him keeping our relationship alive, until hopefully I wake from the coma. Just no oral sex please. Ugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:11 AM
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This is rationalizing/hamstering. No, sex is just better that way. She wants to be in the dominant position, able to dictate the flow of sex in the LTR, as opposed to being helplessly compelled to bang Chad, who btw is not under her control. Nah, dominant is jumping straight into bed with him and calling the shots. It's very womanly to wait. B/c this would paint our brave heroine in a unfavorable light, the mind/ego leaps in to convert an unappealing line of reasoning into the beautifully quoted…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:05 AM
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I wouldn't find it a compliment if a guy wanted to have with me. It's a given. Guys don't find it a compliment if a girl wants to have sex with them but wouldn't begin to consider them for a relationship. A guy would like to believe that the girl would jump at the chance for a relationship if he offered it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:02 AM
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Why do so many women have such a hard time admitting this self-evident truth? They don't? Women talk about hot guys all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:35 AM
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It never happened to me every night but it has happened to me on multiple occasions. I love it when rp men disagree with the 'lived experience' of other rp men and say things women know to be true. Just sucks when you guys insist on knowing what women are thinking and doing in relation to other subjects - when you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:33 AM
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super boring and shy Shy doesn't mean boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:26 AM
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I'm sure it happens. Doesnt mean it would make the hot guy "more successful" than an uglier but more fun guy with good approach game. Look at young couples. You will see very attractive girls with very attractive guys. How does this happen? It happens because people are attracted to attractive people and generally end up with someone as attractive as themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:22 AM
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He'll go to a club, sit in a corner on his phone, and sooner or later, they come. yes, they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:18 AM
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You see the women on here agreeing with this all the time; a good-looking guy means NOTHING until he approaches and starts trying to get on her radar. Nope. You mostly see women DISAGREEING with this. A hot guy is on her radar as soon as she sees him. Within a split second. You must believe women are blind. OTOH a uglier guy with charisma will easily get on her radar. On her please-go-away radar more likely. But if you don't mean 'ugly' and he's just an average guy with a good personality who is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:14 AM
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Triple cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:10 AM
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Game is obsolete. It's SO easy to see right through game. It's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:07 AM
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100% correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:06 AM
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Lots of replies used the word hamstering. You said all these replies were valid arguments against mine. They were mostly rot. Apart from that, I do not understand your kind of debating. You seem to think you can 'emphasise' me into agreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:05 AM
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You do not understand anything. I'll try to make an OP post when I have time. But you are so, so wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:03 AM
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It's not rationalising if it's just basic feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:01 AM
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tendancy People who cannot spell the word "tendency" tend to be individuals who need to educate themselves a bit more before criticising others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:01 AM
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My type = passionate women who are not afraid to follow their heart. They all fall instantly in love? I find that hard to believe. In lust, more likely. You have to admit that most ONS are not intense or spectacular but just drunken fumblings - and they will not lead to committed relationships. So, your experience is way outside the usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:22 AM
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Show me that you have a counterargument and that you can teach me something I didn't already know. I showed it and explained it in full. I can't engage in debate to all of those dismissive, scoffing one-liners being thrown at me and all the 'hamster' comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:18 AM
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Women enjoying sex and women weaponizing sex aren't mutually exclusive They don't have to be, but they pretty much are. It's hard to weaponise something that you desire. And weaponising sex leads to a pretty crappy relationship. Imagine that you really, really want sex but you also want something that your boyfriend/husband doesn't (such as a trip away to a specific place). Pulling out the 'sex as a weapon' card will have you not only missing out on sex but damaging your relationship. It's not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:16 AM
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Currently, there are 11 comments on your earlier reply disagreeing with it I am in a forum littered with bitter rp'ers with little experience of women. They cannot debate women's lived experience by saying they don't agree or pulling out the hoary hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:52 AM
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I never had sex with any man right away but I will tell you I was more hesitant to put myself out there for a guy I really liked. There was more self doubt and “does he really like me back” going on rather than some deliberate strategy of waiting just to wait. Yes, that. It's not a planned strategy. It's about feelings. Also, for me and many women, you want the sex to be special and mean something. If you don't know how he and you feel yet, then it's not as special. You also build respect and fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:44 AM
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It's the other way around -- it's not about respecting the man, it's about wanting to appear respectable to a man she wants the LTR with. Not for me. It's about my respect for the man, or lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:40 AM
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If she's not into me enough to sleep with me straight away I'm not interested in a LTR with her. Have you considered that your 'type' in women might be the type who are more likely to have ONS? Nothing wrong with that, but just sayin'
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:39 AM
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Yes. Slutty sex doesn’t always mean good. I don’t know your definition of “slutty sex,” but if it’s literally just having a hookup with a stranger who you’re defining as a slut, then yes there’s better kinds. Yep. The boys in this forum have strong imaginations. They have little experience but a truckload of bitterness dressed up as tinpot theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:37 AM
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It's the female "rationalization hamster." When rp sees a woman saying something true and upsetting, they pull out the hamstering word to make themselves feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:34 AM
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Classic hamstering. I hope your silly rp terms give you comfort. Of course, you probably knew this. Just clarifying for anyone on the fence or PP. Go ahead and cling to those tired old theories, while you sit and wonder why things aren't adding up the way you think they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:32 AM
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Thanks, I needed a good laugh today. Laugh all you like, if it helps you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:28 AM
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Yes to all of that. Although I do know quite a few that started out as a ONS, I know far more that didn't. But then, it might be an age thing. At my age, there are a lot of parties and things where young people get together and sex doesn't seem as serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:27 AM
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That's because the guy that can get you in bed night 1 only wants that too. No. Lots of relationships start off that way. You were obviously somewhat gaga over him or you wouldn't have done it. No. A woman doesn't not need to anything near gaga over a guy to have ONS with him. maybe she just broke up with a boyfriend/husband or maybe she's drunk or maybe she went out that night for a ONS and the guy was just there etc etc etc But guys with that power aren't going to 'relationship-u-up' Great guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:24 AM
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So she’s less willing to have sex with him because she respects him. So if she respected him less she would be more willing to have sex with him? Is this where the idea that women are attracted to assholes comes from? She might or might not have sex with a guy she respects and wants for a relationship on the night she meets him. But if she just wants sex, she doesn't need to respect the guy she sleeps with. But if she wants to wait, usually she thinks a lot of the guy and wants the sex to be spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:20 AM
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Sigh. Red pill thought keeps on truckin' down the same lane. It's not real. It's just bitterness wrapped up as tinpot theory. Women don't use sex as 'measured doggie treats'. They love sex. They're human. The more you try to see women as 'non people' the more you misunderstand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:17 AM
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That's stupid and completely backwards but whatever, you do you. However, I'm not giving away my time for free. A guy who won't wait is a guy you're better off without. He weeds himself out. So, you're doing women a favour.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:13 AM
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Those lucky relationship guys! To be so respected. Yes. They get the best of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:12 AM
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Or maybe this has just been my experience. A very limited one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:12 AM
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lol such ridiculous female rationalization There is no rationalisation at play here. You don't rationalise feelings. It's how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:11 AM
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Wow such respect.... if you are looking for a long term respectful relationship its gunna look like you are throwing 'em into the friendzone which is a completely disrespectful thing to do while you give/gave it up to so many others. What is this "gave it up"? The woman simply had sex. Full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:10 AM
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She doesn’t respect fuckboys, that’s why she fucks them! Yep. Though not all women even go for these type of men. A small % of women just want sports stars etc - but they are groupies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:05 AM
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I can’t tell if you seriously believe this or not. You need to download the sarcasm alert module.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:04 AM
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Nope the best most slutty sex happens the same day you meet them. lol no way. One night stand sex is awkward and usually doesn't get the woman off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:03 AM
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Fuck that shit! I can do without that kind of "respect". Maybe you can, but a guy who really wants a girl will wait until she's ready. Only desperadoes are anxious to get sex straight away - big signal that he's not worth being with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:02 AM
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Really strange way of showing that. I'm not trying to show it. It's how I feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:00 AM
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If you give it up to fuckboy(s), then it shows a lack of self respect and tarnishes all the respect you otherwise have to give. Conversely, consistency will always be respected. Nah. It's just sex. My point is this is not a logical pattern of thought. It's not logical to you, someone with old-fashioned beliefs. It is, however, logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:59 AM
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She can savor the specialness of the relationship after she's proven she's really into the guy. He's not in control of that. But he has the full choice not to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:58 AM
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As stated above, I believe women use sex as a method of control in LTR, and define the nature of the sexual relationship by placing limits on access to sex. You obvs haven't had much sex or relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:50 PM
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Why will (some) men happily sleep with women they view as sluts, but will not wife them up? Because men are people who just want to have some fun and adventure FFS. Women are not people. They are automated baby machines whose circuitry is currently malfunctioning en masse. Their program is meant to be husbands and babies, but somehow their programs have been flipping to the men's program of fun and adventure, and then only switching to husband/baby mode when the machinery reaches 30 years. The s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:48 PM
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Because sex with an attractive man is valuable, whereas sex with unattractive men (most men) is not. If she's making you wait, then she views sex with you as worthless, at least beyond using it to control you. That's why you should never waste time on a woman who won't fuck you immediately. If I have a guy wait, it's because I'm over-the-moon about him. If I had sex straight away, I'd view the guy as someone to spend a couple of hours with and then he goes away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:41 PM
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Some say that the reason for doing this is avoiding slut shaming. Women want “relationship” guys to respect them, and fear that if they have sex right away the man will think she’s a slut and not be interested. Obviously this doesn’t apply to fuckboys, women don’t care about their respect. A little bit of that. But it's largely due to to the respect she has for the potential relationship guy that she wants to take it slow. She wants to savour it, make it special and make this the start of a long…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:35 PM
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Not quite. It's largely due to to the respect she has for the potential relationship guy that she wants to take it slow. She wants to savour it, make it special and make this the start of a long (or forever) relationship. She has no respect for fuckboys and won't go to these lengths for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:26 PM
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What? Women CEOs are just as ruthless and will choose dumping industrial waste in a local river if they can get away with it. Yes, the kind of people who get to become CEOs - male or female, are often ruthless. I'm simply talking about women being able to influence society - which they didn't use to. They have come into the workforce/positions of influence and changed many things. We've already seen the effects of this. Because women have the primary care of children, they are more focused on fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:21 PM
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What's so bad about being milquetoast? Is it better to have most girls out in clubs doing drugs, downing drinks and sucking off Chad in the bathroom? As opposed to men working their way up the career ladder and then having his milquetoast dick sucked by the secretary? And his wife had to stay married to him because she had no options? Has that given us as a species anything? Women being autonomous has already given us a great deal. You're focused merely on sex. Men leading the way financially ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 06:46 PM
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This doesn't work in a man's favour as women in general aren't that kind that they'd consider self improvement for men's benefit. lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 06:32 PM
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> You mean like idiots who don't get hyperbole? It's repeated ad nauseam as if it were true. >Nothing's stopping her from having her own job, getting maternity leave or being a single mom. ? I'm talking about her reasons for seeking out men at her income level or above. There are difficulties attached to doing all those things - as opposed to being male and just working, unencumbered by the care of children. >And I wasn't talking about this. I was talking about how men have to have money just to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 06:25 PM
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We're actually the best sources since we've seen women behave in similar ways over and over again. No, you're not. The men who congregate in the manosphere have seen the worst side of specific women. It's like women who've been dumped or used by men all getting together and making up tinpot theories about all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:57 AM
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The lived personal experiences of millions of men. Crowd sourced logic is a great thing. Its a bit messy but the information provided can't be found anywhere else. No. Only the men who can't get women. This is a very small subset. But they are very loud and they influence each other and make it seem like A BIG THING.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:38 PM
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Your problem is you are listening to what women say instead of paying attention to who they fuck. Your problem is making up stories in your head and believing them. Ordinary women sleep with ordinary men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:37 PM
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It's explained perfectly well with AF/BB. AF/BB is a load of steaming shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:35 PM
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I'm agreeing a lot with you lately. The beliefs of many of the men in this sub are toxic and they encourage each other to keep thinking that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:34 PM
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Why do you find that comment funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:23 PM
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The left did not champion policies that removed fathers from homes. There was no law that said fathers had to leave the homes. And those relationships were already shit. If you look at the crime rate in those decades, you can see what the sons of "solid two-parent families" were doing (The sons born in the 50s, 60s and early 70s) - before such policies you're speaking of. Society was already frayed. We are a primate species after all and that means we will continue form tribal social hierarchies…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:17 PM
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Well thats also part of the problem, because women can get sex from men much easier than vice versa, especially in their 20s. Yes it's a problem if every man wants a lot of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:10 PM
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Yes. Any white woman that associates herself with a black man deserves to be raped and murdered. What is the black man guilty of, being seduced? Fuck that. Burn the coal, pay the toll. Nice. Why shouldn't white women view black men the same as any other man? I don't know what the jury knows. Maybe she was blind drunk and he tugged her along by the hand and she didn't know what the fuck was happening. I don't know and neither do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:08 PM
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Physically attractive men have a lot to offer because their sexuality has value to women. That isn't the case for most men, though. Women fall in love with a whole range of men. This forum and the red pill paints a wrong picture of women. Ordinary girls fall in love with ordinary men every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:06 PM
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I'm not any type. I've done cheerleading but had no interest in the jocks. I don't like the sports they play and don't want to hear about them and dislike the culture that goes with it. 6 ft 4, buff, strong jawline If that's what you think all girls like, then you're only focusing on select groups of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:04 PM
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In my country, men were offered generous time off after their babies were born, but few took it up. And they didn't because it would interrupt their jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:02 PM
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in all fairness I have not seen the evidence and this is my uninformed layman’s opinion You called her a bitch and invoked To Kill a Mockingbird. How can you have an "opinion" when you haven't seen the evidence, and why are you calling her a bitch and also invoking To Kill a Mockingbird? You're part of the pitchfork crew on no evidence. Your bias is clearly evident. If she returned to the bar crying - how do you even make up a story in your head that it was only after her social group at her pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:00 PM
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Women clearly deem a lot fewer amount of men sexy than men deem women, regardless of how much money/power she has. Despite what is said here, women are realistic about their looks. They basically want one man and to settle down - once past their mid 20s or so. The focus in this sub is all about getting women for sex, and yes, thats different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 03:34 PM
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That's why women are attracted to taller men in the first place. If we operated entirely on logic then a woman would think "logically, it doesn't matter whether this guy is taller than me, or not, that's just a hangover from primeval times, it no longer has any relevance". It's still logical. If her sons are tall, they will have an easier time in dating and the business world. Also, even if he is shorter, he is still much stronger than her. If she is shorter than him, she considers he might be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 03:29 PM
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Being men, they would rather have the power to rape with impunity than let women have the power to falsely accuse them of rape with impunity, which is an understandable yet entirely unsympathetic desire. Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:59 PM
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They left holding hands; that doesn't scream "he's forcing me to go". How about 'he had her by the hand'? Which he would if he were trying to get a drunk girl back to his house as quick as possible. I don't know what really happened, but you can't go by a news article write up either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:56 PM
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So, every black man who is tried for rape didn't do the crime due to being black? Did you see the story about the white drunk woman who mistook a car driven by a black man for her uber the other day? He killed her. If he had only 'raped' her, would you have said she got into the car on purpose and was lying about the rape? Yes, I think you would. I have no idea what the real story is here. But we did not sit on the jury and did not hear the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:54 PM
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they arent in the same places. jocks get the women who flock to jocks and artists/actors/musicians/hipsters get the women who flock to those This woman gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:40 PM
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I don't believe that because the masculine guys can dominate in situations where there is a pretty boy. They can act more dominant. How? And who cares? If a guy tries to throw his weight around, 9/10 he just looks like an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:39 PM
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I hate jocks and huge muscles. Seems that the type of girls you are interested in like those kinds of guys. You like the cheerleader type.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:37 PM
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Young women aged 18-25 get bombarded by guys on apps who are older 30+ who have jobs, houses, cars, etc, that a younger guy simply can not compete with. It is no wonder they feel insecure, no matter how attractive they are, they simply haven't had time to succeed yet. I'm 20 and yep we're being stormed by old dudes of 30 plus. But who wants them? My friends and I don't want to settle down and live in some old dude's house and be expected to spit out a kid in a couple of years. Nope, we party wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:34 PM
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now that women don't need men to make a living, most have nothing to offer women. You don't seem to understand that women desire men because they are men. Most men have a lot to offer, merely by being men. Romantic love is strong in women and most want to love one man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:24 PM
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Men are frustrated because they aren't desirable, are disposable, have no purpose, and any action they take to change that is seen as whiny entitlement. Fuck no. Guys who try to get ahead, work out, get a better mind frame - are anything but whiny. They are only whiny if they get together and wank each other by saying that women are shit. AWALT bro's AWALT the evil wimmins goin getcha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:18 PM
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All of this. You said it so much better than I could. They don't care about men at all. They only care about getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:15 PM
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What can the right do? The right is the reason we are in this mess in the first place. Patriarchies (the right) form because some men want to have more than other men and are willing to do whatever it takes to have it. therefore, some men take away the ability of large numbers of men to have a woman and children. Women, who are smaller and weaker in brute strength and who bear the burden of pregnancy and childbirth, simply do the best they can in the society that men created.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:06 PM
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This notion that we live in a patriarchy is almost entirely because women of all socioeconomic statuses have higher demands than men of all respective socioeconomic statuses. Men like sex. Thus patriarchies form. Women also like sex. Patriarchies form because some men want to have more than other men and are willing to do whatever it takes to have it. therefore, some men take away the ability of large numbers of men to have a woman and children. Women, who are smaller and weaker in brute strengt…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:04 PM
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There's a reason why they call it the oldest profession Hookers are not the oldest profession. Only idiots keep repeating that. Women generally make you pay a price for sex. There is no difference between her wanting you to have a job (along with other requirements) and paying a prostitute for access to sex. Nope. She wants a man with a job, because if she has kids, she can hardly work while she's in hospital having the babies and then caring for said babies. Few men will ever have the care of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 01:54 PM
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That’s literally so false. Even if people don’t want his money, career is VERY important to most women. Edited to add source: women care more about resources and men care more about attractiveness. Look at those percentages from the study you linked: it was 'desirable/essential' that their potential partner was good-looking (M 92 percent vs. W 84 percent), had a slender body (M 80 percent vs. W 58 percent), had a steady income (M 74 percent vs. W 97 percent), and made/will make a lot of money (M…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:17 PM
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When they measure what women want they find that... the more resources the woman has, the more resources she requires in a mate... the higher the socio-economic level she has, the higher she requires her mates SES to be.... and the more educated she is, the more educated she requires her partner to be. Yes but this is also true of men. It's called associative mating. It's only more true of women because they bear the burden of childbirth and raising small children, and cannot continue on the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:10 PM
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Cougars are the female version of the creepy old guy in the club. Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 04:09 AM
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Yep because for men money is WAY more important than appearance when it comes to status and ability to get women. He’s also hilarious and confident. I just looked him up. He couldn't get the vast majority of women, unless he's going for his own age range. He could only get the young gold diggers. Money is only important for getting gold diggers. So it's erroneous of you to use the term 'women' instead of a certain kind of woman. As for being socially alpha, yes, he might be that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 04:06 AM
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I want your system, so that I cannot lose. I intend to make lots of money but I might want kids in the future, and kids will stop my plans dead. So, all I have to do is grab a dude willing to stay at home with the rugrats, then I can continue with my career and side gigs, and never have to worry about a divorce taking my cash away from me. He, of course, will do badly in a divorce - but that's okay, because he's not me. No changes. Also, would you be willing to be the low-income man who marries …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 03:58 AM
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Even in the household -- the woman cooks and cleans, inside a nice, comfortable, air conditioned house, while the man is out doing yard work, risking his life climbing on the roof to clean the gutters, exposing himself to skin cancer etc, and then even getting to spend very much time at home like the wife / mother does (if I was home all day, of course I'd decorate and clean the place, because I do have to live there -- unlike the husband who's stuck as work). Who the fuck wants to cook and clea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 10:47 PM
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Not disagreeing with your point but it is kind of crappy that men are expected to be bread winners. They end up exposed to occupational hazards and health problems at a rate 92 to 1 in comparison to women, who, on average, work less stressful, easier, safer jobs than men do. Women are routinely exposed to biohazards and physical danger as nurses and looking after the aged and dying. Back injuries, assaults and exposure to biohazards are common.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 10:44 PM
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Female hypergamy (n the scientific sense) has been found to be universal across human cultures. The effect of this is increasingly lessened as women have access to their own resources. It isn't instinctual. It's societal. Women are forced to adapt to whatever society they find themselves in, just as men do. Men, being bigger and stronger, have held the cards in almost every human society. But the age of brawn is vanishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 10:34 PM
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lol. What the fuck other system do you propose? You expect a person to take care of kids and work? Devaluing parenthood much? It's slavery if you don't get paid for an essential job. Capitalism relies on women's free labour. How horrifying. Having a slave provide for you. Woe is woman. He gets paid for his work. Without the care of kids weighing him down, he can pursue any job he chooses, too, without penalty. He freely chooses what to do with his income. He's not a slave. They aren't, their sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 10:24 PM
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Alimony is paid according to the lost opportunity of the lower earner, e.g. it can only be determined from the point after the housing arrangement was made and can never last longer than the length of the housing arrangement. At the time that the parties separate, you look at the monthly incomes disclosed on the lease and compare them to the current incomes of both parties. An increase in income makes you the payer, a decrease makes you the payee. The lower income party is given 50% of the diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 10:02 PM
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It also isn't unpaid. Society is built around remunerating women for it. Child support, child benefits and innumerable welfare and social programs, and marriage. wow fucking wow. If you fall so far in income due to having children, hey, there is welfare. And you get to have to rely on a man for your daily bread in a marriage. For fucks sake. Imagine if those were the 'perks' of any other job. No wonder women are increasingly opting out of having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 09:00 PM
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You come here to debate red pill ideas. I do? News to me. I come here to discuss gender. The whole red pill thing is an embarrassing aside in this forum for me. Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology? If you have not, please be honest enough to admit that . Yup If you have read one or more such books, please name them. Cognitive Gadgets: The Cultural Evolution of Thinking - was the most recent. Also, if you have read such books, please tell us what you think about what you lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 05:27 PM
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That does not work for men: personality and game > looks. lol no. Looks are greater than personality and game in terms of men. He would need to have a terrible personality to mute the effect of his looks. Of course, once his looks have your attention, personality is most important.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 05:00 PM
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> Why is prostitution the world's oldest profession? Why is that old chestnut repeated by non-thinking people all the time? As if that is the oldest profession! No. Men are women were pretty equal for most of humanity's timeline. ​ > Which is why I think need to talk with more, date more, kiss more, seduce more, and sleep with more than our female counterparts. None of that is going to make a guy better looking. But in terms of educating himself that he doesn't have to be desperate and should tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 04:55 PM
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It too me a couple of reads to realise that the woman in your scenario was not sleeping with the guy when she was married - until the marriage tanked. But yeah - yuk big time! And... was that you in that scenario??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 04:46 PM
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Mothering isn't a profession. Yes it is. Is it vital work without which society will fall apart? Yes. Does it have high monetary value to society (even though it is unpaid)? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 04:42 PM
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I admit to finding this kind of shocking. Why would a guy who is a friend suddenly ask you out just because you're suddenly single? That's ick. It would be like he was never your friend and was just waiting for his chance. It wouldn't be ick if you were both single and starting doing some things together and realised you both liked each other romantically. My girlfriends boyfriends are off-limit to me, even after they break up. I'm not going to pursue them. Besides, I've already heard (via my g'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:31 PM
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Welcome, new overlords. Exit Sandman will take a page to tell people why they're wrong. Cxj will refer to his past posts of fame and glory whenever possible. Who knows about out of oranges? Not me, but apparently everyone else. Bring it on. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:25 PM
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You cannot just go by workplace fatalities to say which professions are physically more demanding and dangerous. And if you do, then women have one of the most dangerous professions, per 100,000. Mothering is one of the 'caring professions' - and per 100,000 more die in childbirth than people do in almost other professions. "The US has the "highest rate of maternal mortality in the industrialized world." In the United States, the maternal death rate averaged 9.1 maternal deaths per 100,000 live …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:08 PM
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Those aren't physically hard. The physically hard parts, men will be called in to do that. I've spent time in hospitals. When patients need "lifting", a male porter will be called in. Women physically cannot do such things, so men will bear the physical ardour. Also, the reason women go into such fields is because they're rewarding. And you'll find plenty of men in such fields, unlike fields like truck driving-- which are literally 99% male. Yeah, calling them the "caring professions" doesn't me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:34 PM
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Lmao. One of my brothers is unemployed and dating a model. Im pretty sure she can find a man her own age if she wants to. Then there is something wrong with her. Full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:26 PM
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There has to be reasons for that. Trust me. The women are looking for money or they are not very attractive and can't get attractive boyfriends their own ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 01:10 PM
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Trump is a joke - no alpha there. Creepy as fuck. Di Caprio is getting old fast. Who cares about him? Creepy men are creepy when they make sexual advances on unsuspecting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 01:06 PM
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Women maturity, masculinity and older age only compliments this. That advantage was only because women didn't use to have access to make their own money. So they had few choices. Men's advantage is slipping away. She doesn't need his money so he better look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 01:01 PM
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Grown women love all the one direction boys. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5062041/Liam-Payne-gushes-girlfriend-Cheryl-rap-battle.html Women love lots of different kinds of men. To say they all want weathered ones is way too narrow and false. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 12:56 PM
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it doesn't matter how many times you call it an approach, it's not an approach when you just sit on your ass and wait on the other person to physically approach you. Who said you have to sit? She can walk near and give him eye contact. Easy for him to say hello.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 12:46 PM
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> High earning or high status men will typically date a lower earning woman, since they tend to value different things in mate for evolutionarily instantiated biological reasons No. Not by much. College educated high earning men value college educated high earning women. ​ > and significant evidence indicates that, at least so far, it is not being experienced as a net positive for either men or women.. or the longevity of western civilization for that matter. ​ It's a definite net positive for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:41 AM
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And the articles are not a studies of any sort. They are based on studies and reports.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:38 AM
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If a man has to rely on the numbers game, then he isn't a man I want. Does that make better sense? I'm not saying a man shouldn't do it - if nothing else is working, I'm guessing he's got to try something. It's just that I don't want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:29 AM
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Most people do not prefer wage slaving in a menial and often physically intensive job to sitting at home with their kids and family. Or, at least, they'd rather do more of the latter and less of the former, given the choice. Most men would rather this, because they see staying at home with kids as 'feminine' and also they feel out of control if they have to depend on someone else for their food and shelter. It's very slowly changing. Have you worked outdoors for 12 hours a day for 40 years? If n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:21 AM
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usually just signal an invitation to approach by giving IOIs like flirty eye contact, it usually falls on the man to approach. That is a woman's approach. Most guys will respond to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:11 AM
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You've got it the other way around. Men are more free to be themselves around other men. It is when he's around a woman that he does all those things. Nope. Unless it's attractive women he's trying to impress. Otherwise, he relaxes around women. Around men, he postures and deepens his voice. Because around women, he's automatically the most masculine one there. Around men, it's not automatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:10 AM
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One time I walked into an ER, obviously sick, and I asked for instructions on where such and such place is and the lady treated me like a fucking idiot. It was appalling. Some hospital desk staff are the pits.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:08 AM
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Lmao what??? As someone with a dick no that doesn’t happen. Will men act differently around other men? Yes, but not in the ways you described I have seen it a thousand times. It's real. Maybe you just don't notice it happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 03:36 AM
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Except that men have to pay alimony to equate the wages and their wives don't have to have a job. Nice try Stacey. Alimony doesn't equate the wages. Read the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 03:34 AM
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I'm disgusted if men become angry over nothing or are racist/sexist. I love it when a boyfriend is open with me. It feels special, like we're sharing his inner space, something no one else sees. Crying and sadness are part of the territory. Too much sadness would mean depression - doesn't disgust me but he would need help with it. People who are sadsacks in general can grate - men or women - they seem to find a way to feel hurt about every encounter and event in their lives. I strongly suspect t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:40 PM
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Yes. She gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:27 PM
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Not in the least. I value more the men who don't approach. The guys who approach are usually playing a numbers game and they leave me cold. I want someone special. Not a numbers man. I prefer a guy who doesn't approach, but responds to my flirting or eye contact. Women who say that guys don't exist unless they approach are super old-fashioned. If a guy is physically attractive, he is noticed and desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:23 PM
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No they don't. Yes they do. No it isn't. It's physically not remotely stressful. You sit on your arse all day. The life expectancy gap has closed since women entered work. The effects of work on the body are huge Have you cared for young children for years? If not, shut up. If men go for half custody, they will get it almost always. They tend to chase a new woman instead and only want the kids months or years later when they have the new woman installed in their home.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:19 PM
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And men don't care what other men think about them anyway. lol No one believes this. As soon as a man meets another man, he deepens his voice, changes his posture, changes the way he talks. Men want to be respected by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:02 PM
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What was the study? The only thing I could find linked to in the article was an article on how men shame men: I mentally ticked through this list. Asking for help? Check. There was a time when I would risk life and limb on the construction site rather than ask for help, and I followed the same policy with abstract problems as well; but at some point, I can't say when, I realized that it was easier to admit that I couldn't do it myself. https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/03/what-being…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:59 PM
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Law is by man for a safe and cohesive society You are changing goalposts. I was replying to your post and what you specifically said about the age of consent in France. You want to talk nature, we'll talk nature. Completely irrelevant to nature. Nature doesn't care about an adult fucking a 14year old. Nature cares a great deal. Why would nature want an underdeveloped female having sex? It's not efficient, and nature is all set up for efficiency in terms of offspring. A 14 year old child is not m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:39 PM
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That’s because they’ve set out to be prostitutes. Most women don’t do that wtf? Why would you use prostitution as a counterpoint? It’s entirely different Do you see a huge difference in young women wanting to be with older men due to what they can give them in terms of money, experiences and resources? I don't. There is no difference. If anyone falls in love with anyone its usually a combination of time shared together doing enjoyable things, and liking the person. Yes. This type of connection i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:31 PM
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Most men don't have "careers", they have jobs. That they hate. Spending more time at home with the kids is generally less stressful and more rewarding than wage slaving. Most men prefer their jobs to staying at home with kids and housework. Being with young kids all day is more stressful than the majority of jobs, but I can see how it would be more rewarding (although not financially rewarding and doesn't allow for the building of skills for future security. Leaves women in a highly vulnerable p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:24 PM
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Okay, enough pot for you today. Okay, but only if you promise to lay off the crack pipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:20 PM
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what if he earns more than you, and pregnancy obviously will hurt your perspectives more than his? How will pregnancy hurt his perspectives? IMO the issue usually isn't that men expect women to do the bulk of the chores, but often is that women's expectations of orderly and cleanliness are above men's. Biggest fallacy out there. Look at all-male businesses and the level of cleanliness and order they demand from cleaning staff. That tells you that men desire a high level of order, but see it as b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:18 PM
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Why aren't women considered the socially awkward ones if they aren't driving interactions with men towards successful relationships? I agree! It is still acceptable for women to be passive, unpleasant and then disappointed if the man doesn't react to infinitely complex queues properly. Even now, articles about how shitty dating is will frame women as disappointed and men as inadequate Yep. Horribly sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:26 PM
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Successful men are now the nerds, this has been a growing issue primarily since the late 80s or so, but definitely reach a new level since 2007 or so. Yep Women are too picky, they have their high earning job with the social benefits of that, but dont want to share their success with lesser men It's not that so much as women experiencing a big drop in earnings after they have children. And wanting men they can talk to, who are also educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:18 PM
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If she's interested she can buy me a drink. lol true
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:16 PM
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After 30, many women are considered "past their prime" That sounds bitter. It could be that women have been frustrated with the quality of men in NY for years (when they were in their 20s) and so they go in search of men who are more marriageable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:15 PM
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Men do not do half the housework. https://splinternews.com/women-are-literally-expected-to-do-all-the-chores-depr-1793861364 https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2018/feb/17/dirty-secret-why-housework-gender-gap https://www.thenation.com/article/why-it-matters-women-do-most-housework/ http://www.asanet.org/sites/default/files/pr_am_2016_quadlin_news_release_final.pdf They tend to start treating their wives as a mother - a mother they want to have sex with. They want their wives to look after t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:53 PM
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Dazzling experiences + person you constantly have them with = feels. I disagree. Sugar babies do dazzling experiences with older men all the time but do not get feels. The feel it gives might be an emotional high but not a lasting one. If a young women falls in love with a much older man - and occasionally they do - it's because of something about the man himself. His personality and looks, combined with a woman who is open to a relationship with a much older man (which most are not).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:49 PM
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This doesn't disapprove what I'm saying. It's not black or white, and on a spectrum. Some girls are ready some aren't by 14. They suddenly don't all become ripe peaches at 16 like the law says. I mean is it 16, or 15 like in France? Are they pedophiles in France? The age of consent allows for the fact that both teenage boys and girls are having sex - no point in making them criminals for this. What it doesn't allow is for adults to have sex with teenager under 18. This is to protect children fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:44 PM
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Also in terms of outdated expectations from men in terms of house cleaning and childcare. Men too often start treating women as mothers - mothers who they want to have sex with. It causes a big chasm in a marriage that men are often not aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:39 PM
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What would be a good deal for women? Family friendly workplaces that allow men and women to far more easily balance children and paid work. Men who expect to take on their share of house cleaning and childcare. No expectations from men that women will do the bulk of the house cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:33 PM
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Expectations from men that women will do the bulk of the house cleaning. And marriage allows men to keep forging ahead with their careers while also having children but does not give this advantage to women. If divorce happens, women tend to be much lower down in their career path and income level than their husbands - and evidence shows that women can struggle after divorce much more than their husbands. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/mar/19/divorce-women-risk-poverty-children-re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:30 PM
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It's a fairytale thing that is pushed at little girls - especially the wedding itself. They also want the supposed stability of a publicly committed relationship and children who are born into that. But some of the other sides of it are terrible for women. Expectations from men that women will do the bulk of the house cleaning. And marriage allows men to keep forging ahead with their careers while also having children but does not give this advantage to women. If divorce happens, women tend to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:29 PM
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Marriage is a bad deal FOR MEN in some TRP circles. It was always a great strategy for women. It was always terrible for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 05:04 AM
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If marriage is a bad deal for men, then it's a good deal for women. So a woman is foolish for not taking advantage of that Marriage is a far worse deal for women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 04:52 AM
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Kind of like how all of Europe died out because people used up get married and start having children around that age? They didn't. Not trying to be overly argumentative but you have to admit that you pretty much just came up with that on your own. It might make a certain amount of sense but it's not like either of us really knows for sure. I didn't. You have to consider that most people used to die before they even hit 20, which nowadays is just considered the first part of your life, so we see …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:35 PM
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I'm not denying that, that's WHY his abandonment of his idealogy at the drop of a pussy was so threatening. ok, I got that wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:30 PM
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Not embarrassing for women to fuck though. I don't want anything to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 10:29 PM
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That was indeed hilarious. Not sure why you're calling her an internet hole though. She obv made a really bad decision, so I think 'nutcase' might be more apt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 08:39 PM
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It was the hypocritical contrast between those two things that was provocative. Either one on its own wouldve been fine Nah it was very obviously a huge blow to their fragile egos. They want to believe that men have almighty principles (that women don't have) and that red-pill men should stick together as a force. Read the article. Feel the seething.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 08:36 PM
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IMHO the trick is to understand women -- not hate them. Women are what they are. You cannot change millions of years of biology and thousands of years of culture. Once you understand women you can engage in a mutually satisfying manner -- no hate involved. Rubbish. Women are not 'what they are' because we are all so different. And over those thousands of years, women and men were far more equal than they have been since the advent of agriculture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:29 PM
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Ephebophilia is not pedophilia. Its on the hairline.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:14 PM
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I have actually seen theories that it ensures that her child is actually his, and not someone else's, because he was the first guy to get to her so to speak. Even if she isn't at the optimal age to give birth yet, she still technically can, and it will likely be his. A tribe could not afford to have so many girls dying in childbirth. They would die out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:13 PM
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Girls at 14 with breasts and pubic hair are more or less biologically women No they are not. No more than boys of those age are men. Girls of that age will commonly die in childbirth, without modern medical assistance. Whereas properly grown women are far more likely to survive. She cannot be a woman if her primary function will likely kill her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:09 PM
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I am perturbed by this need for affirmative action. Blue females should be all that is needed to speak and moderate on everyone's behalf. They can see all points of view (even the pointless red ones). Whatever happened to merit? Those candidates have the most merit and ability to steward everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:59 PM
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I mean there’s a cause and effect for everything that happens in the body. Misuse of the word spontaneous to describe arousal in the context of what gendered norms we’re comfortable with is disingenuous. Yes there is always cause and effect. I see sexual desire as a normal bodily function - necessary to keep the sex organs healthy. I think women often just aren't as in tune with it as men. The more you respond to it, the more you'll notice it and the more desire you'll have. I agree there is a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:50 PM
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Men crush on hot women with no context. Women do not. I'm afraid that's dead wrong. I see pics of random hotties passed around on social media all the time, and women crush on them. No context as to who they are or what they do in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:43 PM
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I've seen them, even with the same type of guy when she's 60 and he's 80, together 40 years. It's not something I'd look for but it's there. Of course it happens. But not often. Stats say the bigger the gap, the greater the % of divorce. A 20- year gap has terrible odds and anyone who wants the best chance of a long happy relationship wouldnt go there
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:19 AM
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Yes, I dont believe that. Please dont type hybristophilia at me. It was a sad day when reddit learned that word It's real. The woman who wanted to marry Manson just wanted his body after he was dead. There are a % of women who are not quite so nuts but still get off on the thought of very bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:05 AM
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He got a well-known actress interested in him many years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:02 AM
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Nobody has spontanous sexual desire, honestly. I think most people do, but some are less aware of it. Women are far less aware of it than men because they don't get boners. Women might feel congestion inside and not realise what it is. It's a physical process and is far less psychological than people realise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:01 AM
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I'd not say you with your friends are the majority, though. Hence why paper is not wrong. The research is wrong. They don't talk to all women. They just get a set of women from god knows where are do their research, and then say it's accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:59 AM
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Why don't women care about hot male fashion models or even sport stars? They crush over guys in movies with stories. So do men crush on film stars and models etc. But women also crush on random photos and views of attractive men, with no context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:58 AM
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As you've said, women very rarely have spontaneous sexual desire. You don't understand women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:34 PM
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As a mid 40's in good shape, I could find a mid 20 something who would honestly love me (not THINK shes a gold digger) because of my provider ship would set that part tingeing. I'm 20, and I think most mid-20s women who'd go for a mid-40s guy would be gold diggers, not comfort seekers. Because if they didn't have money in their eyes, they would be thinking, 'Oh crap, when when I'm 45, he'll be 65. And he'll be between 70 and 75 when our youngest child turns 20.' I don't think they're thinking th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:31 PM
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whats "interesting" about it, thats what women like, masculine killers They don't like killers and rapists. Unless they have a personality disorder of that type.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:26 PM
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That women would likely feel nothing without seeing Game of Thrones. lol. You are very, very wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:24 PM
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wanting to fuck and domesticate a pretty badboy Yuck. Badboys are embarrassing to date. Never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:23 PM
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The trouble is that most research indicates that women do not experience arousal under these isolated conditions. In order to experience arousal, women need some context or a story. Nope. I get raw sexual desire out of thin air. No context, no story. My girlfriends are the same. They say things like, 'Fuck, I need sex.' We can't all be unicorns. The research is dead wrong. Raw sexual desire is desire without context. We all experience it. In terms of women, their sexual desire depends not so muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:15 PM
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She can say what she wants I disagree. A quick google focuses mostly on female responsive desire like this one. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shameless-woman/201301/cracking-the-code-female-sexual-desire I know women who are very spontaneous with sex but I find most need a warm up and I'm not talking about foreplay. Women would not own vibrators if their sex drives were just responsive. Women have them because they have active sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 07:13 PM
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So if a high n count girl has experienced the large side of the bell curve, will she be satisfied with an average dick? I don't know about high count girls, but I can't see girls who are after a relationship caring. The guy is what is most important - not his dick. If the girl was just after sex, then sure, the dick matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 06:44 PM
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Not every woman has responsive desire, but its common and far more common in women than men. Its also going to depend on how hard up you are. Jeez how did you remember or find my old post!? Anyway, the research said that men and women are just about the same "Responsive desire looks “just the same” in men, she says."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 03:46 AM
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This study and studies like it are silly because it assumes that what women find attractive is just as visual as what men find attractive. It IS the same. Just, men are thirstier. If men had as many options as women, they would only find the top percentage of women attractive and would go for more attractive women than they do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 12:26 AM
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.... And that is my story of how to seduce a woman who wasn't attracted to you at all at first TL;DR: get out of your damn house, kids. Women's sexuality needs interpersonal interaction Doesn't sound like he seduced you as much as you seduced him. Sounds like you liked his personality and decided that you liked him a lot - and then you attempted to seduce him. (Picking out nice outfits, trying to be where he is etc) If you didn't like his personality, any attempt he made to seduce you would have…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 12:24 AM
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Men need to stimulate a woman into thinking sexual thoughts Big fat NO. Women think sexual thoughts without a man in sight. And when they do see a man they like romantically, most women will think sexual thoughts about him. He doesn't need to do anything. If he's not attractive on sight but she grows to like his personality, she will think about sex with him. Again, he didn't need to do anything special. Fuck this stuff about 'tricking' women into having sexual thoughts. We don't work like that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 12:16 AM
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I like your analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 11:33 PM
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Men would be dying more if society collapses Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 11:31 PM
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Men friendzone themselves. If they directly make a move you reject them kindly, but its up to them to stop "being friends" with you. ^ This. For heaven's sake, we women have got to stop worrying about hurting men's feelings when we're not actively doing anything to hurt them. We spend our lives worrying about how we affect other people and how we're perceived. (Not you, Atlas, but you're not most women ;) ) It's not our fault. We're not leading these guys on or sending confusing signals. Men don…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 11:17 PM
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Probably right didn't even tell me that she had a study abroad lined up in the background so she never intended for us to be long term. Did she pretend like you two were dating? Because it's awful if she did. Sorry, dude, it really sounds like she was just in it for the sex. My question should I avoid emotionally unavailable women at all cost or at the very least have hookups with them? It doesn't sound like you can maintain emotional distance from the women who are just looking for FWBs. So, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 10:57 PM
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Nope I have a double standard about it, that's part of the deal with dating me. If she doesn’t like that it’s fine, plenty of girls are ok w it You must date the weirdest girls ever. Few girls would wanna hear stories about a man's sexual past, unless they are just FWB and not dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 10:55 PM
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Off topic but is your username a reference to the Metric song "Combat Baby"? Sorry to disappoint - no. I'm just using 'combat' as another word for 'debate'.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 10:51 PM
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No, I was exposed to the constant message that literally said that men and women were equal (except on the physical level), that any gender differences were the result of social engineering; and that anyone who claimed the opposite was a sexist pig who deserved to be ostracized. Okay, well that's weird. How could people with such different hormones be exactly the same? I think a lot of it IS social engineering, but not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 10:50 PM
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Compared to women, they're definitely at the lowest of their life. Not in the eyes of women. I seriously don't know what standard you're going by. Young men are the ones young women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 10:48 PM
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Yeah, I believe it all boils down to innate sex drive. That is, when a person is aroused without external influences. Men have it higher. I don't think it's arousal. I have days each month of extreme libido but I don't masturbate in public. (Neither do most men, but women are far less likely to) I think though, that something leads men to believe that their sexual needs must be met at all costs. This does tie in with sex drive, because men are more driven in terms of their sexuality. They seek t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 08:42 PM
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I'll be honest: it seems, based on the dates of these articles, that you may be seeking this kind of content out. These are hardly the New York Times, and even if they were, NYT Opinions publishes some wild stuff about men, women That's correct. He's seeking out random articles. But the second part of his premise seems to be right. Women do have these articles posted but there doesn't seem to be any mainstream articles from men. It's becoming ok for women to put men down but not the opposite and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 08:19 PM
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Apparently, not all women are like that. That is, privacy is not enough. They would be extreme outliers I'd imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 08:12 PM
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Most women want sex too, but for most women, the degree is like a small uncomfortable itch. That's hilarious. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 02:40 AM
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People with more testosterone want sex more. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 02:39 AM
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I've only rarely had a long term partner that wanted it as much as me. Maybe I am a nympho, or just have bad luck with men (the latter for sure). Yes, I want sex everyday. When I last had a boyfriend, we matched each other, except he didn't have as much energy for it as me. Without a boyfriend, I still want it as much - more probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 02:38 AM
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In my opinion most women just aren't wired for random sexual encounters in practice bc there's no narrative for the desire she's been building. I agree with some of what you said but I don't quite agree with this. Women don't need narratives to want sex, because it's a normal bodily function. But they do need narratives to trust a man enough to have sex with him. Because sex is risky for women. If you took all the risk away, many more women would have random sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 02:34 AM
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wrong. testosterone is real. ask any woman to transitioned from being a woman to a man. Test makes you want it MORE OFTEN. Wrong. If giving women T would make them want it more often, then there would be zero women with low sex drives. For most women, T doesn't work. And that's because T is not the only hormone that drives libido in women. We have other very strong hormones that do that. Women who want to transition are already different to your average woman - they have more 'maleness' already.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 02:30 AM
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wrong setting, I won't masturabate The only wrong setting is somewhere that isn't totally private. Idgaf, I want to cum and I will jerk True that men are far more known for this. But the majority of men will only do so where it is totally private, so it's nonsense that men will jerk off wherever they happen to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 02:26 AM
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And you will like masculine, muscled men with square jaws and prominent facial features when you're ovulating. I don't like muscled men with square jaws at any time of the month. And they don't look 'more masculine' to me than men without these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 02:22 AM
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I doubt you can find a masculine man in his teens I recently turned 20. To me, guys my age seem masculine. When I was 17, the 17 year old guys at school that I liked seemed masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 11:26 AM
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Yes it's betrayal, but so is someone having sex with you when you think they want a relationship (but they don't). Get it? If someone is lying to you about the terms under which you are having sex with them, you are being used.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 11:24 AM
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Oh come on, be serious now. Few women aged 17-24 are with men aged over 30. Those men are mostly not in the running. Possibly 20% of men aged 17-24 don't have the SMV to get a girlfriend but the rest do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 11:21 AM
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Sounds good!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 11:17 AM
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Younger men are at the lowest SMV of their life False. The majority of young women who have boyfriends are with young men. That's who they want. Young men have sky high SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:43 AM
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There a lot of women that don't give a damn about reality tv and shopping. Yep. Like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:32 AM
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The bigger ones like electrical, mechanical, civil, software have basically no women The biggest problem is too many men. Women don't want to go where there are a lot of men because sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:27 AM
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Engineering colleges are flooded with women in Eastern Europe because the salaries are high. Cool. Women there can lead the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:25 AM
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Wonder Woman is women aspiring to be masculine. No. It's a fantasy superhero. Just like the male fantasy superheroes. Women do fantasise about being as strong as WW. Doesn't make them masculine. Just makes them people. Guys don't like that. Women don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:23 AM
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I am not saying I am strong. You'd have to be to hang out here and put up with this stuff so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:20 AM
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wimminz Argument destroyed. >Then, you go out into the world and absolutely none of the women you interact with are bold, forthcoming, brave, and self-determining like Wonder Woman led you to believe, you get a little confused. You obviously hang in very, very narrow circles. I know many such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:19 AM
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wimmin That destroyed any hope that you were making a fair comment. Grossly under-qualified women are not routinely being hired. You made that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:17 AM
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They were taught that men and women are equal by school, media, authority figures and theyre struggling with all kinds of dissonance because the fairytale and reality dont align They ARE equal as people, and that is what is taught. Because it is correct. But the OP is behind the times. These days, girls do approach and many want to do STEM. We don't defend men against attack only because of the size and strength difference, not because it's not in our nature. We're not chivalrous because it wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:11 AM
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Because, of course, the only reason that women want marriage is so they can divorce rape men. There is literally no other justification for getting married. I'm guessing you must be being sarcastic? No one sane would believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:02 AM
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When you only have sex to have sex, you're never being "used for sex" That sounds good and I'd almost agree. But... For example, what if you are in a FWB in which she says she is only having sex with you, and you both have had STD checks, so you feel safe. Then you discover she's been having sex with with many men at the same time as you. She has been using you for sex under false pretences. You were used because that wasn't the deal as described.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:01 AM
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It's not a known thing that not all men give a fuck about their out of wedlock or noncustodial kids? Sigh. Moving the goal post. It's not a known thing that men who care about spending time with their kids are fussypot mommymen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:57 AM
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No. Kids aren't masculine No kids can be described as being men. Men must be 18 or older.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:55 AM
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The IRS might fall for this but family courts are much less likely to. Very hard to do so. If they bring a business to ruin because they took money that was needed to run the company and pay staff, that's not going to help anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:55 AM
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if you're not being lied to by the other person, you're never being 'used for sex'.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 04:45 AM
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not all men are fussypot mommymen who care about spending time with kids while their ex fucks another man Yes but I didn't talk about that. But you stated the above as if it's a known thing. Therefore, debatable. But, let's let it go.... let it go......
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 04:41 AM
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Women decide Ok and women do not see older men as more masculine. They see masculine men of any age as masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 04:32 AM
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But some redditor threw it out there without proof or any kind of context, so let's just go with that's what everyone pays. It's her job to know - it's what she does for a living. You must pay more because you make more. I think I saw that you have your kids half of the time though, so it doesn't seem fair you pay so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 04:30 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 04:28 AM
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She has super oily skin and so do I. We like soap. Cleanser feels awful and gets in your eyes. But I agree on genetics being a big decider.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:06 PM
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It's a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:03 PM
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It's not about you either. Who decides what makes men more masculine? It's in the eyes of the beholder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:02 PM
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Age makes men more masculine. Men my age seem more masculine to me than men twice my age and older, because guys my age can physically do more and have better bodies. I don't even think about older men. They are like women to me, sexually speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:54 PM
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Women's physical beauty is valued more than males. That's becoming less and less true. The question is asking about the future for men who are young now - and looks are increasingly becoming important for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:50 PM
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handsoap A good handsoap is fine, like Dove, esp. if you have greasy skin. My mother uses that and has great skin and no wrinkles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:48 PM
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Why do you think the marriages don't last? From the outside, the couples seem well suited.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:40 PM
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I found that interesting - that the women in question considered having their own children less important than the option to financially punish a partner for leaving. How does that follow on from women wanting to be married rather than have kids out of wedlock?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:38 PM
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not all men are fussypot mommymen who care about spending time with kids while their ex fucks another man You just described decent human beings as "fussypot mommymen". Men who care more about who their ex is fucking than seeing their kids are whiny little weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:32 PM
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Well fuck equality for men because $400 ain't too bad! That's less than a hundred bucks a week. It really aint too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:22 PM
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Not if he has an actual job or legit business. If he wants to be a homeless bum sure. he can plunge all his money into his company if he has a business and claim he has little personal income.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:18 PM
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Not for the man, he can just move someplace far away and not pay child support. Lots of them get away with it. Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 05:16 PM
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Men can't stop looking at me when I wear all pink, and pink is the only colour I wear. I wish that wasn't true, because I'd like to give other women a chance to be seen. This is a recent pic of me: http://feminine1st.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/pink_women_03.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 09:49 PM
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Maybe it was that :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 09:41 PM
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I call BS on this. Unless a man is balding, you don't really see any real visual signs of aging in males until at least 30, even later if they're not white. Oh for the love of. That was an approx. age, not an absolute. Many guys aged 18-35 look great. But also, many past age 25 start to age a lot, even without balding.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 09:41 PM
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It can't be a signal to males because males don't notice and aren't interested in status in females anyway. It IS a signal to males. If you think on this a while, you'll understand it to be true. It's subliminal. Men obviously are interested in status in women, or all these markers wouldn't exist. Status in women: Pale skin (in white people), no visible muscles, non-bluecollar clothing, styled hair, jewellery, long or cared-for nails, earrings, no early wrinkles (from the sun) etc It is obvious …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 09:59 PM
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Dude, of course women want guys who match them in wealth and status (or better). Her income will drop drastically when she has kids. But you WILL see that his looks match hers. With women able to make that choice, they are making it. They are not marrying much older or much less attractive guys, like they used to have to (if they wanted a wealthier life) . Most wealthy college educated men will also marry college educated women from wealthy families. More generally, a common finding across many …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 09:18 PM
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You're confusing desires with needs born of circumstance. As we become more equal, we're seeing what women's desires really are and really were all along. Women desire looks and personality over everything else. A young good-looking man will produce better healthier babies. This is the most basic unshakeable desire. Everything else is just born of circumstance and subject to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 05:42 PM
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The RP women subs have a strong male presence and are dedicated to teaching women to serve men's imperatives, not their own. Ewwww Hey, didn't you used to be blue? I could be imagining that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 05:33 PM
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I've also never seen any kind of scientific study that noted female nails as being a marker of attractiveness, many other things but not this. Long nails means she isn't doing manual labour, which equals status.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 05:28 PM
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Did I think females find status very roughly as attractive instinctively as guys fine looks/youth ? Yes. No way Josea. Women value looks as much. And youth almost as much. Fine, but women are instictively attracted to status. On a certain subconscious level men understand this, and it promps them to be interested in things, and spend money on things, that display status You don't seem to get that a woman who doesn't look like she spent the day scrubbing floors and working in the fields is also d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 05:15 PM
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I do not care about suits and rolex watches - in fact, it would turn me right off if a guy turned up for dinner in those. In terms of a car, I have my own very nice one. All he basically needs to do is show up wearing a clean shirt and his natural youth/ beauty . I will insist on going halvies with dinner too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 05:07 PM
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exactly what planet are these women from that you think will actually, willingly fuck non-Chads? Most women fuck non chads. Happily. Willingly. Most women will fall in love with non chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 12:05 PM
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then why are there so many escort services? Because a very small percentage is still a lot of women. Why are there a lot of voluntary sex workers in legal countries? You'll have to explain that one
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 12:03 PM
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the only reason prostitution is avoided is due to the risks involved. Remove the legal issues, lower the cost, and stop the social shaming and you'd see guys using prostitutes again. You couldn't get enough women willing to be sex workers for a greatly increased demand. Prices would skyrocket. The vast majority of women would never consider becoming a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:37 AM
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you knwo who doesnt give a flying fuck if girls "desire" them? rich old men who are gleefully balls deep in hot 19 year pussy because they have money Many do give a flying fuck. Have you heard the girls at the Hugh Hefner ranch describe sex with him? It was awful and he hardly sounded happy. Most men prefer to be with their families over a life of rolling around with girls who can't wait for his wrinkly body to get off them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:33 AM
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> This leads to a whole host of problems in society - higher crime rates (including rape), prostitution, sexual harassment, the wide prevalence of porn etc. Addiction to things like alcohol, drugs and gambling are almost exclusively male problems, largely because their sex drives were never fulfilled - so they use these things as coping mechanisms. Yes, the porn and prostitution industries would be just about gone in your proposed world. Some of the crime rate would possibly go down. But most cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:19 AM
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The rates of women self-harming and suicide attempts prove that and has nothing to do with seeking help because they are all involuntarily admitted to hospitals. Those rates are not huge. It still stands that more women seek help for depression etc than men. Probably because women have a lot more responsibilities - caring for children, and cannot continue without help. Whereas many more men just need to look after themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:06 AM
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ROTFLMAO no they wouldn't mate with men, regardless. Yes, they would. You don't know the first thing about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:04 AM
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The research shows that women give up when faced hardship more often than men do. No, the research showed the response of women to failure, not hardship. If women responded to hardship the way men do, we'd have a lot more women running away from the responsibility of caring for children. Even when caring for their children thrusts them into extreme poverty, women stay, and 'stoic' it out. Whereas many men run and look after themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:03 AM
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Women seek help for mood disorders more. Men don't. Which means men aren't counted as much. It's exactly the same as men not seeking help for lack of interest in sex, so the numbers aren't counted. Nor do they talk about it. If any of them do talk about it - it's always the woman's fault for his lack of interest, not his. The only time men will go to the docs for sex probs is when they can't get erections anymore - then they flood the doctors office (or buy pills off the internet).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 09:30 PM
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Your link shows that girls suffer from stereotype issues. Because their failure is the failure of their gender - whereas a man's failure is personal and not evidence of his gender overall. Also, science says women are not more emotional than men: https://www.wired.co.uk/video/the-three-big-myths-about-emotions-gender-and-brains-wired-live I do think though that men are more emotional from what I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 09:26 PM
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Men have mood swings all month long. If men had more capacity for violence but used it less than women, I'd believe you. But it isn't the case. Evidence of men's anger is everywhere, everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 09:24 PM
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Men will be seen by whom as more stoic? Themselves? Because they are the ones who wrote the history books. I see men are far more quick to anger and too impulsive and also far more likely to exhibit emotions such as fear and shame as rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 08:58 PM
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most men are stoic, Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 03:55 PM
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enduring pain and hardship That would be far more attributed to women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 03:54 PM
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Stoicism is masculine I see it as being more feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 03:50 PM
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I don't think we need to argue which sex is more emotional. I agree. It's men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 03:49 PM
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Most dudes can't keep a stiff upper lip without taking out their feelings on someone. Yep. They lack control.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 03:48 PM
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It is attained because women demand it, and always have. If men manage to "socialize" away from masculinity, the human race will go extinct in a century. The vast majority of women simply won't mate with non-masculine men. Depends what you mean by masculine. You seem to think it;s something bad. But women would still mate with men, regardless. As long as they still had penises, they're good to go. Women have sex drives, and want sex. People also want babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 03:46 PM
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From the very beginning, we are all female to begin with (XX chromosome) and some with exposure of testosterone etc become male (XY chromosome) Masculinity is by no means a "default" state, it is attained. You are almost correct. The default is female. For the first weeks, both male and female foetuses only exhibit the XX chromosome. The SRY gene will then kick in for males - and testosterone will bring about changes. But male foetuses were always going to become male, right from conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 03:41 PM
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Okies - sorry!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 10:22 PM
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Men who get divorced do not necessarily want to get married again but they want the girlfriend experience same with older men who are widowed they usually grab some woman pretty quickly to replace dead wife. Yes. Among my older relatives/friends of older relatives - this is exactly what happens. And men will sacrifice their kids to be with a woman. That's why I think the child custody thing is a shemozzle - men don't want half or full custody of the kids until they find themselves another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 10:22 PM
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OK, there are things woman are attracted to you can't see in a photo. Charisma. Confidence. Dominance. Social Skills. Intelligence. Competence.... to name a few of them. Of course. The same goes for men. He might be very attracted to a woman he meets in real life that he thought was ordinary in a photo. So when she assesses a male photo she (internally and instinctively) scores their attractiveness something like ... "Looks = 50, Body = 50, Status = 30, Age = -10, Confidence = 0, Charisma = 0, S…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 10:16 PM
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They only get attracted when the "sum total of all those things" is enough to make them believe this is a desirable man. Say what? Women get attracted as soon as they look at a photo of a men they find attractive. Full stop. They might also find a man attractive in real life who they did not find attractive in a photo - either because it was a bad photo or because his personality shines through.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 01:50 PM
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Women rate men based on their estimations on how other women would rate men. lol NO. Women rate men based on what they think when they look at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 01:47 PM
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Feminism is one of the products of the social changes that were caused by technology. How ill-informed. Women speaking out against patriarchy has been going on for many hundreds of years. Most women over thousands of years have felt oppressed by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 01:34 PM
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Yeah for real, I’m a virgin and I’m not even actively looking for one, even though I wouldn’t care if she was one,as long as it’s not more than 5-6 I would be fine, though the chance of finding women like that are slim. Depends how old you are. If we're talking about women aged 18-20 I can say that women who've only had one or two are common. Quite a few have had none.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 12:59 PM
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Those are rich weirdos. It's common knowledge that men who are sociopaths and narcissists are far more likely to rise to positions of wealth and power. And those kinds of guys have power fantasies. For some of them, the thought of a virgin gives them a power trip, and they are rich enough to indulge. Would every guy who happened to get rich pay out for virgins? The answer is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 12:54 PM
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Men move on faster then woman. Yep. Men don't like to be without a woman to anchor them. Whereas women take their time and try to heal first, and they also are more likely to have the kids in their care a lot more and therefore don't date as readily.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 12:48 PM
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A fling with the pool boy doesn't necessarily destroy the family. Stuff like that always destroyed the family in all ways except financial. Once that stuff starts, the love and respect in the marriage is over. The kids know it and they grow up without that solid family love that kids need. The kids feel that life and romantic relationships are meaningless, and then the family fractures once the kids are old enough to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 12:46 PM
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Yes you can for sure trick people into thinking you're more confident than you actually are. Yes. That wasn't my argument. My argument was that it doesn't follow that the woman was tricked or thought he had higher status. Confidence does not equal status. She might simply think his confidence is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 10:50 PM
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You said: >Then why when someone complains about lack of sex in a relationship its the man 99% of the time? The percentage is what I was debating. You're going off on tangents now. I'm not going to debate goalpost shifting. ​ ​
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 10:12 PM
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And the poor led short, miserable lives with a huge brood of children. Nice job learning the wrong lessons from history. You didn't bother to read what I posted. They gathered resources before marriage. Which is why women were in their mid-20s when they married. They didn't have as many kids as they would have either, had they married at age 15. The economy had the benefit of a large, young workforce - and people not having kids until they had the resources to do so. The assumption being that me…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 10:09 PM
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this is the opposite of truth, attractive men don't even need confidence but confidence and ~charisma can make you think twice about someone you weren't initially attracted to. This is true. I notice looks first. If he's quiet and a bit unassuming, that's just cute on an attractive guy. Other guys grow on you over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 09:46 PM
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Status matters as much as looks. By acting confident, an average looking guy can trick a less perceptive woman into thinking he's higher status than he is. You guys are all about trickery. Looks matter far more than status, except to golddiggers. But as far as confidence goes, some women just like confident men. He hasn't tricked her. She just likes it. Maybe she even thinks he's fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 09:44 PM
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The latter is easily confirmed with a google search. Bad confirmation. Women don't complain as much because it's not socially acceptable. If a man's wife doesn't want sex, people think the problem is her. If a woman's husband doesn't want sex, people think the problem is her. Testosterone is just one hormone women have that directs that sex drive. Doesn't matter that men have more T.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 12:11 AM
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All I saw were boobies. Not going back.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 12:09 AM
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If women are half as fragile as you say they were Wha? Women in prehistory were not fragile.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 12:09 AM
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What they crave and what they actually do (or rather what the average man can actually get away with doing) are two diff things. It's very similar for women. Both genders have to make choices on what they want out of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 12:08 AM
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wtf. That site has vids of nekked ladies
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:38 PM
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Every woman would have faced wild animals at many points. Crazy to think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:37 PM
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What did these men do? laze about waiting for a tiger to show up? Did they gather and cook food? look after the young? They couldn't just be there to guard the tribe. It's possible men were there at times, but they couldn't defend all women and children all the time. It makes no sense for women not to be defending the tribe, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:28 PM
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If male thirst disappeared, it would be literally, utterly impossible for chads to be hot to trot. That's like saying without heat there'd still be fire. You don't need thirst to be hot to trot. All you need is a healthy libido. The scenario put forward was if men had the same libido as women, not if their libido vanished.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:24 PM
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This thread wasn't your OP. What link do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:22 PM
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Facing wild predators was also risky. Even moreso. Animals were fond of attacking humans and guess who was the front line of defense? The men. What line of defense were men when they were out hunting? Women would have had to learn how to defend themselves also, as well as how to defend and keep children and the elderly safe. Women faced a dicey childbirth. Men literally had animals gunning for them. Women also had saber-tooths going for them and their children. It's a myth they stayed in caves a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:20 PM
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Depends on which era you are talking about. 19th century England and Irish (not speaking of France, Spain or Germany here) literature is full of references to brides that were 16, or even younger. Western Europe in Tudor times. Generally only the rich married young brides, for political relations etc In Tudor England, most people who married did so only after they had the wherewithal to establish a household of their own. This usually meant waiting at least until they were in their twenties. Con…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:14 PM
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This scenario classifies as men wanting NSA sex. But he also wants a wife his own age not just NSA sex. And many men will get a mistress who is not exactly NSA. I think it's both societal and evolutionary. if men see other men doing it, especially their own peer group, they'd be more likely to want to do it, too. And we've had societies like that. Likewise, if women in a woman's peer group had toy boys on the side, she'd be more likely to want the same thing. Men have evolutionary forces working…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:14 PM
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Yes. Just like most women have an interest in hot young men. Easy to see that women do, by the romance/erotica books they read. But most want to be married to someone who represents more than just a hot young body. I see the happy marriages of my family members and can see the truth in this. Otherwise all men would focus on nothing but making lots of money and spending it all on young hookers and sugar babies. Most men would end up finding this life pretty empty. Just like most women would find …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:04 PM
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More men die than women now because they do riskier jobs, smoke more, eat more fatty foods - while childbirth has become a lot safer. Back when childbirth was highly risky, I don't know what the percentages were of male to female deaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 11:58 AM
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Then why when someone complains about lack of sex in a relationship its the man 99% of the time? Source? Seems to be a lot of women in dead bedrooms complaining about their men. Men watch more porn because women are more exciting to look at than men. Women can make do with a vibrator and their imagination. Men visit clubs and hookers because they can't get easy access to sex like women can. Untrue about women. if it were true, no vibrator would be sold because it wouldn't work. Instead, vibrator…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 11:56 AM
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And short men and not so good looking men and nerds who dare walk into their field of vision, much less gin up the sheer insolence to try and strike up a conversation. You don't have a very good view of women, do you? Women do not complain about men who they don't find attractive. They might complain about men who approach them - because it's unwanted contact, and some of those guys will grope, say sexually suggestive things or/and get angry when rejected. And i know that then you'll say, oh, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 11:32 AM
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Except women would have to work their asses off to seduce the Chads that they want so much. Nope. You don't get it. Women want and love sex. But sex is risky and sex carries with it all the things I mentioned for women. Men don't have to deal with those things. Chad would still be hot to trot. Ordinary women might no longer have a chance with Chad. And yes, some of those might be upset they don't get to cha cha with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 11:27 AM
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because of a combination of factors Agree. You will note that I said "played a big part" not "was the single factor".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 11:22 AM
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Before the sexual revolution, men expected the women they married to be virgins, who were often much younger. So, this type of attraction is nothing out of the ordinary. A low n count woman is also less likely to divorce her husband. Of course, once you start talking about girls as young as 16 or younger, you are entering pedophilia territory. ​ Not in Western Europe, dude. You've got it very, very wrong. Women were in their mid-20s when they married. They might or might not have been virgins. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 03:07 AM
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I have come to terms with that now. But my version of “swallowing the pill” was realizing that’s pretty much male sexuality. That was a hard pill to swallow because that type of sexuality is innately predatory and creepy to me. Humans man lol Most men are not like this. Most men would choose to have a woman their own age as a wife than a child. They will appreciate the sight of a young girl's body but not want to be married to one. If a grown man wants only 16 year olds, something is very wrong …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 03:05 AM
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Oh yeah - guys who care about virginity are the biggest sleazeballs around. (Unless they are virgins too) I had two experiences like that back when I was a virgin. They turned me off so much I would not go on any more dates with them, let alone sleep with them. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 02:55 AM
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I don't think it's male sexuality to want very young girls and innocence. I think that's cultural. Men who want to have sex with children have largely stunted brain development - something is very wrong with them - else it's cultural and due to erroneous beliefs. Such cultures won't last or do well in the longterm. Most people (both men and women) are disgusted by it. And I think the reason is due to evolution. People in tribes would have seen that old men (the few that were able to sire babies …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 02:47 AM
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Hmm yeah I don’t think men wanting lots of NSA sex is taught to them by society. I absolutely think this is true. Men get slaps on the back and cred if they are promiscuous. Not so for women. Men are taught that 'real men' have a lot of sex with a lot of women before marriage. If many men had it their way they would have a primary wife exclusive to him and he would be able to explore strange pussy on the side. This is true. The only reason many don't is because women will divorce them if they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 02:31 AM
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Men pay the vast majority of of those social programs. If they're good enough to support women indirectly though tax payments, they're good enough to marry and support you directly. It's far worse to have a bad man by your side than to be a single mother. By the way, dude, the children that women produce and care for are the people who use the goods and services that make the economy go around. To say that 'men pay most of the social welfare' is very misleading. They don't do it in a vacuum. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 02:27 AM
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If you look at the gay male community, their libidos are generally fairly on par with one another, and yet gay men have lots of sex — the thirst for sex didn’t stop because well the first bullet point is still a thing for them. This is true, but - Gay men in relationships have less sex than gay men having random sex. And gay men have more random sex because: Men are taught to have lots of random sex. Women are taught to have relationships. It's also biological and instinctual - women treat their…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:39 AM
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Ok, then the rest of my post stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:27 AM
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If you want to raise decent children, give them decent and relatively happy lives, you need a father in the picture If you don't want your kid to be made fun of for wearing the cheapest clothes and eating cheap fatty foods, you need a father to provide that Women can provide for children extremely well on their own if they work for 10-12 years and build up resources and then have kids. But I agree that having a father in the picture is best. Fathers are needed and give things to kids that mother…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:25 AM
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Sorry for this question, but did your looks change a lot from then to now? I guess that's an obvious question. Of course your looks changed. Also, are you going for the same girls that you used to go for, or have your tastes matured? If you're still going after the same girls (same ages, same maturity level) your answer might lie there. I have tried to explain this over and over to the men here, but they just don't get it. They keep telling me that a 30-year-old guy with a great job is better in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:15 AM
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Sorry Greasy, there is nothing you can put forward about RP that I will agree with. And I cannot battle through long replies at the moment. Succinct is best. I have read their sidebar and I do not agree. Full stop. I have no questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:07 AM
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My prediction was that birth rates regardless of married/partnered/etc would fall below replacement rates, such that humans would die out after 2 generations. You're not offering any evidence to show why this is wrong NOR are you offering any reasoning to show why this is illogical. Your math is terrible. What you are proposing would take hundreds of years, not 2 generations. And policies would be brought in way before that happened to curb the falling birth rate. Also, the children who are born…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 12:01 AM
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For blues, going over to TRP would probably be a triggering experience. hahahahahaha no. Everything there is laughable, not triggering.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 11:38 PM
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They wanted to maintain (as they had done on Day 1) That "TRP is a science"... and also that they had doctrine, orthodoxy, priests as well Zomg. Am rolling in the aisles here....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 11:25 PM
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They didn't fail because "RP is wrong".... They failed because "They couldn't adequately represent RP properly anymore to outsiders, because they have no practice in doing so". Nope. They failed because it is wrong. They have their sidebar to fall back on, but this just showed how wonky their belief system is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 11:16 PM
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I have no such thing. My libido is 'on' all month long. Sometimes it's stronger than others, but it's still there every day. A woman would have sex as per normal. She says yes on many days when her drive isn't strong. And he says yes on many days when he's tired and would rather just watch TV and have a beer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 11:07 PM
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You're just naive to think they don't fuck around on the side, or are too old to be fucking around ??? How does that follow from what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 11:04 PM
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Men would be scammed more often, but wouldn't complain, because of male ego. Also, many men are 'willingly scammed'. They know the woman is fleecing them but they partly like the feeling of economic control over her (even if it's illusory).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 11:03 PM
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Interesting. I could see that being the case in some relationships, but not all. We've had cultures in which sex was pretty free for all (Polynesian etc in the past) and they survived. I don't think we need 'male thirst' to go on as we are. I don't think 'male thirst' is desire for sex so much as inability to get sex. If women were suddenly denied sex, women would suddenly develop 'female thirst'.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 11:01 PM
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Male thirst is what drives guys to accumulate the resources that make marriage and family possible. People still need to work to buy cars and houses and have kids. We have very clear examples of women doing the same thing for many decades now - and where is their 'thirst'?? Without thirst guys just aren't going to put in that effort. Men who have lots of women wanting them still put in the effort and still get good jobs. And they still marry just one woman. Or are you saying that good looking me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 10:53 PM
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Yes they are. More males than females die from the time they're conceived. Sheesh WTF. You mean over a lifetime, in the modern world?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 10:49 PM
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In the eyes of evolution that's the same thing. The same thing as what? You were saying that far more men of reproductive age die than women and that explains why far fewer men reproduced. I gave a couple of other explanations - harems and men living past their best reproductive age (under 40) without having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 10:49 PM
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Her desire for sex is on par. Her desire to have sex with randoms is not on par - mostly because sex is very risky for a woman. But most men who have wives and girlfriends are not going to have sex on the grocery store bathroom with randoms, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 10:46 PM
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Nobody claimed that people wouldn't marry and have kids, nobody claimed that women's libidos were unhealthy. But I agree that made up strawman arguments would be pretty dumb if anyone was actually making them. No strawman here. Birth rates of babies born to unmarried/unpartnered women would fall. But as for the 'END OF HUMANITY AFTER 2 GENERATIONS'?? - that's the dumb bit. My argument is that women have a healthy libido and if men matched that, we'd be fine. Humanity wouldn't end.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 10:34 PM
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There aren't enough good men to go around. Your plan has already failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:49 PM
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It is on par. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:47 PM
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Stoicism, respect for others, self respect, leadership qualities and a host of other self benefit features have been ensconced into what we today know of as the Red Pill. NONE of that describes the red pill. The red pill is whiny and reactionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:44 PM
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Women are picky because they have to be. Sex is risky. If men had the same libidos as women, we'd be fine. Women love sex. Women's sex drive gets impacted by the awful birth control pill/hormonal birth control/periods/period pain/pregnancy/breastfeeding/raising small children and lack of sleep. Men have NONE of those type of stresses on their bodies - so their sex drive would remain constant. We would be FINE. The world would be instantly BETTER.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:38 PM
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Female thirst would appear. Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:34 PM
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Women would lose all power in sexual and societal placement . Men wouldn’t be blinded by their dicks .We wouldn’t place every basic bitch on a pedestal Sounds good to me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:33 PM
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Well if men had the same libido as women, nothing would change? Women are thirsty too, we just contain ourselves more. Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:32 PM
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Problem is without the male libido forcing itself, most ppl would realize they aren’t that compatible. What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:29 PM
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(not really sure what is causing it in Japan) men are too traditional in Japan, and women don't want to be traditional anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:28 PM
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Birth rates would plummet way below replacement rates, end of humanity after 2 generations. However, I don't see women complaining about the intensity of male libidos, only the male libidos of undesirable men That's pretty dumb. people would still marry and have kids. Women have very healthy libidos - they just don't go after random men, because it's too risky. If men had the same libidos, we'd be FINE. Women don't complain about the libidos of men who they don't want to have sex with. They only…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:24 PM
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This is a terrible argument but let's consider for a moment the fact that those judges and policy makers were put in power by female voters who make up a majority of the electorate. Bullshit. They are put in place by other men. You don't seem to know how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:20 PM
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You're still barely an adult(no offense) but what about when you're about 24 and there's a guy who's 31 years old, interested in you, he's established, $130K+ income, and with a similar level attractiveness as 25 year old Tom who is in a much earlier stage in income generation than the 31 year old guy. All else equal, it'd probably be the 31 year old guy that'd get the girl. No. I'd want someone in my circles who I have things in common with. A guy that old is going to want kids. Blah. Also, I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:18 PM
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Nope. Women are likely to attempt suicide. No, what I said is true. They commit suicide in greater numbers than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:16 PM
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Why? Because that's what people do when they go their own way. They go towards something. Not constantly rail against something - otherwise they'd be protesters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:15 PM
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More male babies are born than female babies. Male babes have more issues than female babies. But in the end, the numbers are about even. Males are hardly 'culled'.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:12 PM
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And yet despite your long and angry rant, women were still TWICE as successful at reproducing than men. Numbers don't lie. More men died before reproducing than women did. Again, Numbers. Don't. LIE. Not a shred of anger. My post was simply factual. What you fail to realise is that men didn't fail to reproduce simply because they died. If you read my post, you'll see that I say that too many men gained power and ruled over harems etc. Many men lived to a decent age and died without siring babies…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:09 PM
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It isn't like we can pretend they don't exist. I've seen groups on reddit that are mostly men - sports etc - and I don't see women even mentioned. Seems like it's easy if you're not fixated on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:52 PM
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Why do atheists talk so much about god? They don't. Seriously, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:50 PM
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For MGTOW a lot of it is about feeling validated in their beliefs and blowing off steam. If it's a safe space in which feelings about women are shared, why not call it that? When people go their own way, they don't talk about what they left behind. You need a name change.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:47 PM
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You do not seem to understand the meaning of "going their own way". If someone goes their own way, they leave something behind. They generally don't look back. It would be more truthful to call it Men Sharing Their Feelings About Women in a Safe Space. MSTFAWSS ​ ​
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:45 PM
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Nature begins culling male babies before they're even born. Plus males are far more susceptible to birth defects. Yet a huge percentage of weak males survived. We only have to look at many of the kings of history to see evidence of this. >The problem of weak women being culled wasn't all that big, considering that women were twice as successful as men in reproducing. (80% vs 40%) This statement is senseless. Old men with mutant sperm led many harems and had many children. Old men with money had …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:38 PM
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Women were not killed by invaderes They were often killed. Women are extremely competent soldiers when trained and when using guns. In hand to hand combat with men, yes they are useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:31 PM
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If we forced females into dangerous roles, and we miraculously barely escaped extinction, we'd be far less of an intelligent animal than we are today. Bad model all around. Correct. Because women already had the most dangerous role there is. Pregnancy, childbirth and caring for the sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:28 PM
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Because in either society model, men are expected to face all the danger, be it war, animal intruders, natural disaster rescue and cleanup, hazardous workplaces... who faced the tigers, lions and bears back before any "Patriarchy"? MEN. Women are expected to face pregnancy and childbirth - both highly hazardous before recent times. Women were also expected to care for the sick and dying and be exposed to all kinds of infectious diseases. Women are expected to have sex, yet they and their resulti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:14 PM
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I've seen LOTS about that here and in the media. You're freaking because you suddenly got interested in the topic. It seems to be environmental. More baby boys are being born with deformed penises. Yes of course women care and yes I personally give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 01:58 PM
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She was a child groomed by terrorists. Just like teen males have been. Then she lost two babies due to the substandard conditions she's living in, and she wants the next baby to live. No red pill in that. Red pill would say "women have no loyalty" - yet here is a young woman who is refusing to be disloyal to her group (no matter how misguided that may be). Red pill denied. You lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 01:54 PM
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It's because you are a late millennial chasing young gen z girls, and you are mistaking their disinterest in an older man for inflated egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 01:47 PM
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men can look at a woman (or just a picture of a woman) and decide whether she is hot/not, fuckable/unfuckable. 100% wrong!! Women can absolutely decide on whether or not a man is hot or fuckable just from a photo. We do it all the time. the vast majority of men who aren't a solid definitive yes at first sight still do have a chance depending on how it goes when they interact with her in person. Yes, but the same goes for men. He might fall in love with the person in real life, but he thought her…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:47 AM
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That's right. Men are pimples on butts. You just want to squeeze them to see what you can get out of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 02:44 AM
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Consciously, or unconsciously, directly or indirectly by one, two, three, or more degrees of separation of true purpose - the attainment of women is the reason why there are pyramids, a polio vaccine, a flag on the moon, Navier-Stokes equations, silicon doping, twist-off caps, Petronas towers, and vulcanised rubber. After securing shelter, air, water, and food, this is the reason why men 'do'. This primeval link is often buried in the psyche - obfuscated by our belief systems, culture and langua…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 05:09 AM
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You do know that having children is a choice right? lol It's not a choice overall. If no women have kids, then the world of humans stops dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 10:13 PM
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This is a terrible argument but let's consider for a moment the fact that those judges and policy makers were put in power by female voters who make up a majority of the electorate. What? No. Old white males put those judges in place. Plenty of Africans took part in the slave trade, so I guess that makes slavery ok too, right?). Yes they did. But which Africans? The chiefs and those in power, who stole their own people and sold them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 10:12 PM
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You're still barely an adult(no offense) but what about when you're about 24 and there's a guy who's 31 years old, interested in you, he's established, $130K+ income, and with a similar level attractiveness as 25 year old Tom who is in a much earlier stage in income generation than the 31 year old guy. No, because a 31 year old male is not as attractive as someone my own age who is going to fit into my social group and like going out to outdoor concerts etc. And he's likely to want to have babie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 10:09 PM
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Yeah -- I never had a problem getting laid in my 20's. I was broke AF almost the entire decade. Young women aren't looking for rich guys. They're looking for attractive guys. Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 02:10 AM
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In light of this, why is the default position to blame women and their supposed hypergamy instead of blaming older men and their preferences since it is these preferences that most drastically distort the market age-wise. False premise. It's NOT men's preferences that make the difference. It's been women's economic standing. Sexually speaking, women prefer men around their own age, as evidenced by marriage stats. And women are increasingly choosing men close to their own age as their economic vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 02:05 AM
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They're also getting loud and angry in order to get shit done; not just to "vent" and "rant" and manipulate. When women bosses do this in order to get shit done, they are called "bitches" and "at that time of the month"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 02:00 AM
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I've never seen a man punch a hole through a wall Not a stereotype. I haven't seen it happen, but have seen it afterwards in quite a few homes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 01:58 AM
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by evidence of the fact that men don't lash out and dump their problems on to other people the way women do. You're right - men don't lash out in the way women do (nagging, crying, trying to make others feel guilty etc). Men punch (holes in walls and other people). Men are more likely to yell and raise their voices when angry. Men are also far more likely to kill other people because of their emotions. We've taken signs of maturity and responsibility in men, and turned it around to pretend that …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 01:57 AM
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ONLY an underclass would worry about sexual deprivation No underclass in history has been described as such. Deprivation in terms of underclasses involves the things essential to survival. Food, water, shelter, ability to earn an income etc Young women outearn young men This is new and is only true while they're young and don't have children Women select. It's not men's fault that a generation of women have been exposed to a chad cock free for all in University and relentlessly and continuously …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 04:47 AM
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My comment was based on research studies... Yep, and my comment still stands. Women care just as much about sexual cheating as emotional, but they don't have the resources behind them that men do. So that would influence their answers. Women's fears of being left alone with the children. Men don't tend to get left with the children. Women are not an underclass. What kind of underclass could have been the majority of voters in every election for a century? ONLY an underclass would worry about fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:03 AM
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Today, a woman's unsupported accusation can easily put a man in prison and destroy his life, while women frequently get away with even murder. This very, very rarely happens. And most times, men get away with rape and other kinds of violence against women. Meanwhile men are "stuck" much more often, because a woman can leave him, no matter why, and keep most of his property and income stream. If he initiates the divorce she still gets both, and the kids too. Yes, men are stuck, too. But in a diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 02:20 AM
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No. All men have alpha and beta traits. I think some very underconfident women gush about 'alphas' who are their dream men but these men don't exist in reality. Just like men dream about some woman who looks like a model, is a porn star in bed and loves him more than any woman has ever loved a man before.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:36 PM
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Men on average react substantially more to a woman cheating sexually, and women react substantially more to emotional cheating or indicators that time and resources might be diverted. It's why high SES men in many cultures get away with mistresses. Both genders do care somewhat about both forms of cheating though. Absolutely wrong. It's not that women 'react more' or 'care more' about emotional cheating, it's that women are often stuck, due to years out of the workforce and caring for children e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:25 PM
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Makes no difference. Who wants marriage just because the guy is desperate for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:52 PM
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It was not wasted It was wasted. If he leaves, the relationship was never as real and true as she hoped and he wasn't the man she thought he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:50 PM
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I’d disagree that this inherently means the relationship is a waste of time. It's a complete waste of time if the woman was looking for a life partner. The time with the guy who left her would have been wasted and pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:48 PM
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It's just so blatant to me how my own attraction to women is so perfectly aligned to their fertility which drops exponentially in their mid 30s, that I find it hilarious to watch women like you pretend it doesn't happen. Women are also attracted to young, fertile men. Sexually. It makes perfect sense in terms of evolution. Would you have children with someone who looked in the peak of health or someone with grey hair? Women have had to make a choice between healthy young men and resources. But t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 08:09 PM
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We just don't believe in the wall. At all. For any man or woman. We don't buy your metaphor. This is a debate forum in which ideas of the red pill are discussed. To state that 'bloops and feminists' are obsessed with the ideas of the red pill here is plain ludicrous. It's literally the reason for the existence of the forum. All that is true is that men and women age, and everyone is best to have kids under 40, because both eggs and sperm degrade. You could call that a wall if you wish, but it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:58 PM
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Um ok that’s not how it works necessarily. Sexual tension can absolutely build and typically there’s a pattern of flirting which can be an indication of romantic interest. Quoted for truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:52 PM
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It's not that guys only care about sex, it is that connection without sex is painful. How are they ever able to have guy friends? I don't buy it. It's that they feel entitled to women's bodies and that's what is painful - when they don't get what they expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:51 PM
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A constant build up without a climax for a man is very frustrating. I get emotional blue balls and it is almost physically painful. Then, I end up detaching emotionally. It is the same for women. A build up without orgasm feels physically painful. All the blood has congregated and everything is swollen - and if orgasm doesn't happen, then it all aches and hurts. (It's not exactly the same, because we don't have a build-up of sperm, but we do have a tremendous build-up of blood and internal swell…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:48 PM
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Your experience is your experience. It might describe people who are into kink. I had a relationship in which lots of sex was had and in which I was really into the sex (more than him, I think) but I didn't talk about it or go to 'sex events'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:42 PM
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Women who have been molested as children may be inclined to zone out and let it happen, because it was the only way they could mentally protect themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 12:41 PM
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Every woman i tell i have a high count loves to mention it. Bleh. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 08:47 PM
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On first thought, the virgin man. 30 seems really high. I don't want to be with a guy who's been with that many girls. But there would be a lot of other factors involved with real-life people. Like, would the virgin guy wonder what other women would be like years down the track? I know I would, if I'd married as a virgin. The thought of it is awful. How would I know who I really want to be with if I'd just gotten with one man straight out of school? If the guy stayed besotted with me, the virgin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 08:44 PM
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Do you wanna go halfsies on the price of buying a domain to create a website like Return of Kings? Kidding, unless you're into that. Imagine that. We could rule them all!! (Men, that is)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 08:37 AM
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Aw cute. You get cranky when it's nap time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 08:36 AM
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" I have always been attracted to older guys. " She's the 1 in every 100 women who are attracted to older guys. And love is love. Unfortunate for the old guy's daughter, but what can you do? You can only wish them the best. If she doesn't want kids, the relationship could last until he dies. If she does want kids, there could be trouble in the future. He's too old to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 02:17 AM
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Ponders this at length.... Why yes, you are quite correct. (But please, remove the pacifier next time you say something profound. It's distracting...)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:11 PM
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Women are taught to hate men, not ruin them. That's what you think.................................
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:09 PM
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This is literally what happens though, there is a reason no women needs to be taught it online, they've already been taught it. ahahahaha yes all baby girls are handed a manual upon birth: How to ruin men. We keep those manuals stashed away and pretend to be sugar and spice. But we have secret women-only meetings all our lives where we discuss 'the book'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:31 PM
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I’m not wearing a diaper lol How do we know that for sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 12:05 PM
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she always fixes her husband's plate You never know, she might be telling you she chooses her husband's side chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 12:04 PM
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The real female red pill. Women aiming to get the best of both worlds. Men are children. They need to be managed by women. Men are too testerical to take seriously. so just humour them and keep your frame, ladies. AMALT. Never forget that. It's just your turn (of their dick and wallet) Plate men for years, then hook a provider and keep a side dick. Keep your provider leashed to the treadmill. Have a good life. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:46 AM
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everytime you make a definitive claim for what is hatred and what is not.. this can too never be taken seriously though Then we understand each other. You understand that a definitive claim about a whole race or gender cannot be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 07:48 AM
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Sexism is hatred. Racism is hatred. When a woman says that all men are lying, conniving cheats, it comes from a place of hatred. When a man says that all women are lying, conniving hypergamists, it comes from a place of hatred. When someone says that all of one particular race are less intelligent, it comes from a place of hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 07:47 AM
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You have much to learn about the world. Your vision is narrow. Your powers of googlefu are also lacking. May you one day stop observing your anus and look around you. My wish for you for 2019.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 07:41 AM
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This is hatred, This is hatred, This is hatred. Writing words like "women are children" is not hatred. Hatred is hatred. Saying that women are children comes from hatred and fear of women. If a woman says 'all men are rapists' - this is hatred. Every time you say a whole gender is this or that, it's hatred and the words cannot be taken seriously. Things like that are why the red pill is not taken seriously and is the subject of derision everywhere that they are known.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 09:03 PM
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Companies want to make money and be competitive, and they can't do that if they have to pay way more money to get a female employee than a male. Both men and women have children, so I don't see why all the burden/blame for 'having children' should be put onto women. Society is seeing this wrong. Companies with women in the boardroom have been proven to be better than those with all men. The profits are higher. I think this is because of the mix of genders and not purely because of the women. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 08:58 PM
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No it's not whataboutism. Something was specifically attributed to women, as if it can only be attributed to women. That was false. And I am duty bound to point out falsehoods. If there is 'female entitlement' in the dating market, who is it hurting? If there is 'male entitlement' in the dating market, who is it hurting? Who must 'oppose it' and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:07 AM
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Yay! I'm rolling my eyes too! PPD BFFs!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:03 AM
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here we are where none of those things is true any longer No. The sentence I replied began with "here we are where none of those things is true any longer". Obviously, some things are still true and women are still responding to those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:02 AM
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What's the solution? For women not to work, or not to have children anymore? There is no one solution and no solution that suits everyone. But more flexible, family-friendly working places are a really good start. if she knows she won't be penalised for having children, she's going to be a lot more secure in her financial future.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:00 AM
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Looks matter as much to women as men. I've never seen a woman get shamed for liking cute men. Women have more considerations though. Is a man going to end up harming/killing her or killing their kids? Will he stay? Will he pay? Will he stray - and give her STDs (thereby harming their future kids)? And so his personality and character are also vitally important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 09:16 PM
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The essay is and should be one of the foundational documents of the Manosphere. Yes. We finally agree on something! It is the perfect and quintessential document for the MenOfFear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 09:09 PM
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His words seethe with hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 09:06 PM
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Why? He was an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 09:03 PM
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And here we are where none of those things is true any longer and arguably men are still thought of that way. Huh. In an age in which women are largely engaging in paid work while still having the burdens of pregnancy, childbirth and raising small children - tell me again that "men are still thought of that way". It's more that women realise their earning capacity is going to be stunted, and until that changes, yes they'll want a man who earns a solid wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 09:02 PM
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You may not need it, but they still feel like they deserve it. That describes many men. Those men don't just feel entitled to money, but everything. And when they don't get what they think they deserve, they riot. Or steal. Or shoot up schools. Or murder women. Or rape. Tell me again that women feel entitled to money?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 08:57 PM
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Lots of women don't find a guy they want to marry for years. They have LTRs and break up - eventually finding the right man. That's what my two older sisters did. They're not married yet but have plans to marry the men they're with now (both in mid and late 20s)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 08:49 PM
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"Fucked more guys" does not necessarily mean "able to get higher value man". No, but the fact that they were more likely to remain married than those with a count of 2 points to something going right. I put it forward this means they obtained higher quality men through their efforts. The problem with promiscuous women as bad marriage prospects has less to do with her fucking the guys and much more to do with WHY she fucked the guys and WHY she couldn't either (1) pick a decent guy; or (2) get a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 12:42 PM
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And in THIS instance we are talking about WOMEN and their N counts. Women's N counts are not a problem nor are they a women's issue. Therefore, what I said stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 12:38 PM
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You're right: men don't need parades. We aren't a bunch of pussies. Men parade every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 12:35 PM
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parades for sluts. Men don't need special parades. Their slut walks happen every day on every busy street. Congratulations on your next slut walk (when you leave the house).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 09:38 PM
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The notion that 1994 was like living on an alien planet is the among the stupidest things I have ever read. Men and women interacted with each other in essentially the same way 25 scant years ago. The data was from the 70s up until 1995. That's a hella long time ago. - Many, many more women (and men) married as virgins back then - Many women stayed at home and looked after the kids - There was far more shame attached to having sex out of wedlock - There was more pressure to stay married ​ >The y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 09:36 PM
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(this is key - women have a very very hard time accepting that they are a major cause of their own problems), and then actually doing things to change it and improve it This is true of all people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 09:26 PM
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If she's a virgin she's much less likely to divorce you and be in a happier marriage too. Weird. Maybe schools should stop having dances and encouraging young teenagers to fuck eachother. Or maybe we should abolish marriage. No. If she's religious or has strict beliefs about staying marriage, she's less likely to divorce you. Proven by the divorce rate dropping among women who marry as virgins. Back when a much higher percentage of virgin women married just because of social mores, a much higher…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 09:24 PM
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Your boyfriend follows IG girls??!!! And you're seriously staying with this loser? He has NO business being concerned over your porn preferences. The guy is a loser orbiter. Seriously. If he's following IG girls, he's not enough into you. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 02:16 PM
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Now compare that to Rocco Siffredi dumping his huge dick into an 18yo's mouth and watching her gag. Fucking sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 02:11 PM
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Our teenaged sexual experiences shape our sexuality. Sucks when you consider that most teenagers first sexual experiences these days will consist of porn that depicts men using women as masturbation toys. That's what my friends and I were exposed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 02:06 PM
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I'd like to see if anyone has a concise argument against them. At your service. Your graphs are old and dated and must be analysed in the light of that. I don't have time to research old pre-1995 data. But you can be certain that much of the data does not apply these days. Give a clear reason why such old data is relevant and I might look at it. Anyway, I put it forward that the difference in the divorce rate comes NOT from the quality of the women but from the quality of the men. Exhibit A - ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:47 PM
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Can I ask why you didn't go live with your dad years ago? Like, from the age of about 12? And why not now at age 18? Your reasons for staying with your mother at the age you are now do not make sense to me. Did your dad ever try to get half/half or even full custody of you and your brother? If not, why not? Why is 'being in the friendzone a sign of disrespect? I'm 19 and friends with lots of guys that I respect a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 05:44 PM
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Well, then it looks like loss of relationship that follows is a biological thing then too. If you're with a guy who would dump you because your sex drive is low, then good riddance. If I was with a guy whose sex drive was low - good luck to me in trying to ride his limp penis. And good luck to me in trying to get oral when he has no drive for sex. Instead, I'd try to help him through whatever he was going through. Hoo boy. Results would disagree with you there. So, you're saying to me that a per…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 08:13 PM
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Eh, I do it mostly for the women If the woman wants it, for sure, you're just doing it for her. It's a weird thing to want though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 08:07 PM
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Yep. I think they might enjoy it sometimes. But if that's all it ever is (orgasmless sex) it might get less and less enjoyable. And if she really doesn't feel like it - too stressed, then it really is just another chore to get through. If the OP's 'low drive' analogy was sound, then that kind of sex would equate to not wanting to clean the house, and even when you do, the mess is still there when you're done.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 08:06 PM
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The hunkiest men she can find.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:59 PM
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Feminism encourages women to do what makes them happy. Having kids very young might suit some women but not most. Most women (who want kids) are better off delaying marriage and kids and establishing themselves first. Thanks feminism - your advice is sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:58 PM
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What about female bosses and managers? Everyone is biased in men's favour in the business world, but men are even more likely to favour other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 07:56 PM
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And if a woman can get a long-term commitment from 7/10 guys but not 8/10, then her SMV is 7/10 at best. Do not confuse how a girl's SMV is determined with how a guy's SMV is determined. Just because a girl can get a ONS with an 8/10 guy doesn't mean her SMV is 8/10; her SMV would only be 8/10 if and only if she could get long term commitment from him. Who cares? Not her. She's getting ace tail for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:55 PM
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Feminism has for the last few decades been encouraging the entire generations of women to choose money, financial independence, career and work over getting married, raising kids and building a family. This naturally leads to a lot of women to have less desire to have kids. Yay!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:53 PM
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"running out of freshwater" globally, doesn't even make sense.. Are you serious??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:47 PM
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So when I hear 'I'm not having children because it's not practical' I always kind of go wtf are you talking about? It's not practical for an individual woman. Women being pregnant is practical for a tribe. What's hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:40 PM
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What more can you expect from the me generation. Men have always been the me generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:37 PM
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You come home to that. It doesn't stop you from working and making money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:35 PM
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There isn't a pay gap until after women have children. Correct. There is a promotion gap though, which does end up equating to a money gap. Because male bosses and managers tend to promote other men over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:32 PM
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Apply the low libido rationalization to any other facet of life and you look like the lazy ass that just doesn’t feel like it. I don’t say that I have a low job drive or a low gym desire or a low chore urge. Analogy does not add up. People feel like sex when they feel like an orgasm. If an orgasm doesn't come from sex, they might well think, what's the point? It would be confusing if something that used to be fun is suddenly a chore that is about pleasing someone else and 'doing your duty'. Low …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:29 PM
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A cuckold is a man who either gains sexual pleasure from his wife having sex with other men, or who has an adulterous wife (and he doesn't know it). Your first link doesn't mention feminism and the men don't match the above description. They seem to just like sex with other women and are accepting of their wives having sex with other men. I'll accept that the book mentioned in your second link was written by feminists, though there is no mention of feminism in the article. I don't see promotion …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 08:08 PM
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This is just another sick and depraved attempt by feminists to justify and normalize cuckoldry. What do you base this statement on? Can you give me links to places in which feminists are advocating for cheating and/or cuckoldry?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 10:18 PM
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its when his penis is so tiny she cant feel anything else so needs to get hit or choked so she can feel something from "sex". Shit, you might have hit the nail on the head. The guy who tried it on me did have a smaller size one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 05:24 AM
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I've only had one guy try that stuff (have only been with 3 guys) and I got up and walked out of the room. I was that turned off, it was over for me. We didn't see each other again. I'm in it for the orgasm dammit, I don't want to watch you get off on hurting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 05:21 AM
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For your reading pleasure. You basically just reinforced my point. It's not made-up stuff. It's real and happening every day. Men are raping and murdering and committing crime in way, way larger numbers than women. And that's the stuff that is reported in the news. You can't say it's a conspiracy. It's the way it is. Quite frankly, I'd rather be objectified in porn (which is widely considered a non-respectable media of ill repute) and get people being outrage on the behalf of my gender because o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 05:16 AM
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From my understanding a passive sex drive means you need someone else to initiate. But more importantly, the blood doesn't flow to the sex organs unless there is a trigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 04:15 AM
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But girls want Chad. They all do. And there aren't enogh Chads to go around. I don't want Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 09:31 PM
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Except every sitcom that shows a knowing wife and a bumbling fat husband... This is true. Absolutely. I'll hand you that one. Men are shown as stupid. Although, fat, bumbling husband generally does what fat, bumbling husband wants. And skinny, attractive wife stays with him. Also, skinny wife is usually depicted as neurotic or obsessive in some way. Homer, Peter Griffin, Ray (Everybody loves Raymond), Doug (king of queens), - they all do what they choose. Their wives don't dominate them. Al Bund…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 09:26 PM
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More like.. when you watch enough hours of super hot women having super hot sex, the average fat chick giving out mediocre sex just doesn't do it for you anymore. Oh, I get it. Substitute "woman" for "man" ... when a woman sees enough hours of super hot Chads and their super hot bodies, the average man with their mediocre looks just doesn't do it for her anymore (passive sex drive)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 09:19 PM
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mainstream media journalism Shows men existing only to please women and only being in the service of women and putting up with extreme discomfort in order to give women orgasms? Yer, right lad. Lemme take a look at mainstream media news today. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news I'll ignore the politics and go straight to the ordinary people sections: THE GOOD NEWS: Stuff about both men and women doing good shit, but mostly men - as there are more men out and about at all times of day and far more me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 09:12 PM
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My personal take is this: It isn't ED, it is just that some women don't pass the boner test. In other words, men's sex drive isn't robust.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 08:48 PM
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Many of you are not very appetizing at that hence the supposed ED Men have passive sex drives. I'm seeing it again and again in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 08:15 PM
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men are being pleased and that means it will always be at the expense of women? It's at the expense of women because it portrays women as being in the service of men, existing only to please men, seeing men's pleasure as more important than their own, putting up with extreme discomfort in order to give men orgasms etc There is NOTHING aimed at women that shows men in such a negative and harmful light.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 08:10 PM
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The dudes equipment works fine he just needs more excitement In other words, men have a passive sex drive that needs high stimulation in order to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 08:05 PM
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Women fuck from the men that approach them not the prettier homebodies. hahahahahahahahahahaha What do you know? It's not a game of "who dares, wins" We pursue in subtler ways that are obviously unknown to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 08:44 AM
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If it's 50/50 custody, then I agree with you - that's wrong. You're already supporting your kids during the 50% of the time you have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 08:15 AM
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Reading is so beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:40 AM
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You're fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:38 AM
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This would never happen as a man. If a man is timid, no matter what happened in his life to cause that, he is universally going to be seen as unattractive, or even disgusting. Shy guys are cute as anything. A cute guy who is too shy to ask me out but he really wants to? That's hot. If you mean timid as physically shaking upon social contact or running and hiding in a corner, that would be extreme for male or female. Men would have it harder than women if exhibiting this behaviour. A lot of guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:36 AM
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This is preselection. Yes. Preselection by assumption. No. Selection based on thousands of years of knowledge that people with youthful, symmetrical features, good hair, nice teeth, good skin and bodies are likely to be healthy and have good genes. I don't think you can assume introverts automatically prefer introverts. Everyone wants to be pursued, which generally requires some degree of extraversion. I didn't assume. I said "some other women" and "especially introverts" but I didn't say all in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:20 AM
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What dontcha quote the stats (from your own link) that alimony awards only run at 8%-10%? It's not like all divorced dudes are out there paying alimony. And when they do, they get to claim it on tax. If a guy divorces at the peak of his career, he can make up the money again in no time. While his wife, if she's caring for the children and spent her prime years raising them - she has nowhere near the earning capacity he has.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 01:15 AM
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this is what feminists actually believe Not feminists, women. Women see how men are given more respect just about everywhere and in just about every situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 08:48 PM
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Sure, but men don't have menopause. Having kids while you are older is inconvienient if you are a man. Having kids while you are older is impossible if you are a woman. Men don't have menopause, but they slide into andropause. The huge sales of viagra are testament to this. They also increasingly produce mutated sperm and are also much less able to get a woman pregnant. Having kids is not just inconvenient if you're an older man. You might well need help from science to have a kid. Yes, having a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 08:46 PM
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What if he's surrounded by women when they meet? Will she judge and even base her reactions off of how other women react to him? Some women would find that hot. Other women would just expect that the man would have a lot of female attention whether they see women around him or not (because he's good looking). And yet other women would be turned off, especially introverts who prefer quiet, introverted men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 08:40 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 08:37 PM
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In no way is he a hottie.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 08:37 PM
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I didn't mention alimony. Yes, they can get rid of that. But at the same time, there needs to be a lot of changes for women and their ability to study and earn income after having children. Unfair to dump women into poverty, who haven't had a chance to continue their careers as their husbands have. Marriage penalises women and something needs to happen to prevent this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 08:36 PM
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I wanted companionship and a future. In other words, you wanted security.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:48 PM
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Divorce, alimony, and child support. Oh noes, supporting your own children! Bring back war and famine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:44 PM
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I'm guessing most girls would find Tom Segura physically attractive No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:40 PM
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I think for the 25+ age range he's a real catch. Only if they're after wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:37 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:30 PM
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If you gave me $50 million dollars, I wouldn't get any plastic surgery. I'd be fucking pussy by trailer load looking EXACTLY the same way I look now. This is true. Men who want sex, not love, can concentrate on getting rich and will be able to get women easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:21 PM
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Women are primarily attracted to men WHO APPROACH THEM and escalate Nope. Women are primarily attracted to men who look good. Full stop. Nothing attractive about a man approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:16 PM
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In fact, called her right after my LTR of 2 yrs. gave birth. Was that your own kid or someone else's?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:13 PM
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It's like yall can't quite figure out what exactly is alpha and it confuses the shit out of me because I know I hate RP and their "this is how people are" bs because people aren't a collective borg, but shit, yall can't even get it together and decide what alpha is. I've seen them argue among themselves on rp over what is alpha or not. Hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:08 PM
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. For men good looks don't attract women as effectively as status does. Wrong. It's looks way over status.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:07 PM
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Whether or not side piece gets anything or not also depends entirely on Mr. Ferrari's behavior within the relationship. If she's with him for money, she'll cheat. Nothing he can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:04 PM
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Men on the other hand should primarily focus on behavior, wealth, status. Those are the metrics that women value most. Nope. Looks and personality all the way. Status is the icing on the cake. With women, the more looks, personality and status she has, the 'higher value' the man she can get - he'll have looks, personality and status too. Yes, Mr Ferrari will get girls. if he wants girls who value money over sex and love, he's in luck. Nothing wrong with that either. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:02 PM
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it's easier to get with one woman if she can see that you have already been approved of sufficiently well by other women. No!! A woman has no freaking idea about how many women "approve" of a man when she meets him. Unless he's well known, like a celebrity. Look good and be a nice and interesting person - that's all a guy needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:46 PM
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Don't forget that the woman needs time to find the husband. Attract him. Vet him. Every single failed attempt also takes time. Men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:41 PM
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True words. Also true that you don't live with the same kinds of threats from the opposite sex that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:40 PM
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Single dads are having their kids removed from them because of drug abuse/mental illness? You're going to have to link me with your sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:39 PM
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Her ratios aren't magically getting better, she will only get fatter, more hairy , skin will be saggier, and get more wrinckles. In no way she can get more womanly unless you associate fat with femininity. Dude. Men get all those things too. Hope you don't think they're manly! But a woman doesn't need to get fatter or hairier. But they do look more womanly after they get older and have kids and develop bigger boobs and hips. Jennifer Anniston and Jennifer Lopez are both much older women and both…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:38 PM
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A reasonable solution would be healthy socialization and rehabilitation into the real world. The real world according to who? To a man? You don't live in the world according to a young woman. I bet you haven't been stalked, grabbed, had strangers call out what awful thing they'd like to do to you, had men stop and watch you walk to your car in a lonely parking lot, try to comfort a traumatised friend who has been raped or anything like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:26 AM
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Both men and women are on a timer. Let's be honest. Men are better off not starting a family at age 40. And men's fertility keeps dropping/mutations increase/penis problems increase. A woman is not on a timer at age 18. She's not on a timer until age 35. Then she's got five years in which to have two kids. Better to have them at age 28-35 though, if possible, for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:22 AM
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What do you think will happen in this circumstance?: Let's place a man with young kids sleeping rough on the street and lets' place a single woman sleeping rough on the street. And watch to see who gets help first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:18 AM
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Yes, it's never going to be the full experience. They will experience part of it though - and a very valid part. I think it was the Nora book in which she said that, looking as a man, people avoided looking at her. That would be an immediate change. I can say that everyone looks at me - both men and women. I feel constantly judged, but also (I guess) "seen" (which is validating even if people are looking at you critically, because it's confirmation that you exist).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 10:25 PM
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Get some sunlight, youll be ok. Does sunlight zap men and sizzle them like vampires? Otherwise, the problem isn't going away.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 10:21 PM
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You don't have a time limit when it comes to building a career or having fun. Better to have fun when young than when you're old and jaded. Life is great for me now. Why would I fuck that up by getting married and spending my days mopping and wiping kids' faces?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 10:19 PM
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Men have less responsibilities than women. A woman with mental illness/abusing drugs who has kids is far more likely to seek help or be given help - because of the kids (no other reason). A man is more likely to go straight to the streets because he has no responsibilities. Also, he's less likely to be raped out there on the street than a woman. Women obtain more financial aid for their kids, not for themselves. A single woman is no more advantaged than a single man. Let's do an experiment, shal…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 10:18 PM
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AND WHETHER MEN ARE DRAFTED OR NOT THEY'RE ALL FIGHTING A WAR JUST TO SURVIVE EACH DAY THAT'S HOW HARD IT IS TO BE MALE. THEY HAVE TO PUT ON THEIR OWN SOCKS AND GO TO WORK AND WORRY IF A WOMAN SOMEWHERE IS SECRETLY LAUGHING AT THEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 09:40 PM
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I know the stereotype is that men are usually messier and don't clean as much, but I wonder how much of that is gender, or just from a lack of time / money / energy from being worked to death in other aspects of their lives. It's from believing that "it's not their role" to clean. That's all. Congrats on keeping a tidy house. I like to keep everything neat, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 09:35 PM
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I think you're right. He'd have been raised male and would be very different to a woman who was raised as female.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 09:32 PM
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My estimate is that many men-turned-women would fall victim to sexual predators and become single parents, not having grown up with the kind of defensive education women are taught. Men can't accidentally fall pregnant. They'd still be stronger than women and more likely to be able to fend off a sexual predator, and also more likely to realise the moves that a predator male was making (because they were once male. Just like fathers know more than mothers about boys intentions towards their daugh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 09:31 PM
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As a man I have to be on my A game 99.95% of the time and barely earn the same as a woman with 1.5-2x the work put in. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 09:22 PM
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I read that. Some of it was very insightful, but she didn't have enough self reflection. In one part, she attended a camp in which men were expressing rage against women. She was scared that if she was suddenly outed as a woman, they'd kill her or seriously hurt her. Would she have felt that way if it was a group of women raging about men and she was actually a man? No. That camp perfectly illustrated the fear that many women feel in terms of men and what we have to live with. We see and feel it…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 09:21 PM
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Amazing read. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 09:10 PM
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if you ever need a safety net. No safety net for women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 09:10 PM
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I mean... you can if you get married at 18, have your children early on and then when the children are grown up you start to study and make yourself a career but that ship is already gone. I can't even. At age 19, I'd be throwing my life away to have kids now. These are the years to have fun without being tied down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 08:34 PM
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Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 08:26 PM
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I can't comment on a Dutch show. I watched the mainstream US ones. They didn't put couch potato men against survivalist women - most of the women were everyday, without survivalist skills. Most of the men came with skills taught to them by their fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 08:22 PM
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Is your wife also not looking more womanly than the girl she once was? Maybe your wife's looks are not fading as much as you both imagine. Not all men are stuck on liking teenagers, like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 08:19 PM
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Are you ahem getting excited at the prospect of him getting hard at work?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 12:45 PM
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My wife herself admitted I'm far better looking than 10 years ago, while she knows her looks are fading. Then you must have the gene for looking younger and she must have the gene for looking older faster. Because normally couples of the same age look pretty much the same in terms of attractiveness. I guess you could only tell about genes if you got with someone when they are close to 30, rather than young. But you're right - looks fade but love stays.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 12:41 PM
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haha yep. Guaranteed fucks. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 04:19 AM
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We absolutely felt that she was too drunk to consent. She did however seem to be into it. However, all things considered, I don't think she missed out on much. Yeah, there would be a line in between. You made the right call. She could be so drunk she doesn't know what she's doing. Or just conscious enough to consent. Which is why people have to leave other people alone who are in that condition, because you don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 04:17 AM
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He's a pasta blaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 10:22 PM
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The woman who was with you at her prime but at your lowest deserves you to stay at your prime, it seems logical to me. She probably sees the young you as your physical prime. And probably sees both of you as being pretty equal in terms of being attractive to the opposite sex. But it is sweet that you appreciate that she has stayed with you and you want to remain as loyal as she has.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 10:20 PM
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I don't think so. " The women shared their only food with the starving men, who had not been able to feed themselves since arriving. " https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/tv-radio/2016/04/outrageous-sexism-island-bear-grylls-might-be-what-makes-it-great-show Although, the producers do tend to choose men with more of a background in physical things and women who have no experience with that stuff. Which is the producers trying desperately to prove that men are better at survival. I laughed when …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 09:28 PM
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This is why women, if they are still single in their 30s, would rather remain with their cat than shack up with some twisted (and not in a good way) dude who didn't get enough action in his 20s. Their bitterness is repulsive. Yeah, cats or maybe a single dad or guy who did see action might be a better bet at that point. Bitterness is not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 09:05 PM
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It's not even that cut and dried. I was at an event once and a couple stumbled past and fell over on the grass beside us. They proceeded to heavily grope each other. The guy tried to get her to stand up but she couldn't. She actually seemed into the sex. One of our group got a security guard and he managed to get her into a cab, despite the guys protestations. I'm guessing onlookers couldn't be sure what was happening? If the guy could stand but she couldn't, that sounds as if she might have bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 09:04 PM
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and I doubt that these women had been smitten with me immediately and only waited for me to break the ice. I didn't say smitten, though that can certainly happen. I just mean that it's binary. A man is either a yes or no on sight. From there, he can fuck up the encounter by being rude or idiotic - but in general, if he's a yes, he's "in". If I don't escalate, nothing will happen even if she's into me. Now that's weird. I don't know what nationality you are, but if a woman is really into a man, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 09:01 PM
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Red pill be crazy. No sense to their blatherings, I'm afraid. What you said is excatly what happens in real life. Red pill are just bitter they didn't get the party girls when they were younger and so must pile shit on women in order to make themselves feel better. Everyone sees straight through it. Except for rp themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:15 PM
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Of course they can. That's silly to say they can't - it depends on the degree of 'drunk'. eg. If a guy is so drunk he can't resist, speak coherently etc when another guy comes and pulls his trousers down and has sex with him - the drunk guy is not consenting. eg. If a woman is drunk and dancing with a guy and they decide to go upstairs and have sex, and she makes it obvious she is consenting (verbally, physically etc) - she is consenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:08 PM
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People can consent to sex when drunk, but not when so drunk that they can't actively consent. ​ If using the car analogy: ​ A. A drunk/incapacitated person chooses to drive. They do this mindlessly and wouldn't choose to do it if they were sober. However, they are now a danger to themselves and others. A. A drunk/incapacitated person chooses to have sex with themselves (masturbate). They do this mindlessly, and wouldn't have chosen to do it (within view of others) if sober. They are not a danger…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:43 PM
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But if a drunk person can want to drive, can't a drunk person also want sex? Yes. Can a drunk person consent to sex? Yes. If they are not so drunk that they can actively consent and keep actively consenting and actively taking part in sex all the way through - then they have consented to sex, Can a person who is too drunk to stay awake drive? No. Can a person who is so impaired they can barely talk drive? Maybe. Maybe not. But they made the decision to get behind the wheel. No one else put them …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:49 PM
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Unlike you, I have dated women and therefore have first-hand experience what does and doesn't work out there in the field. Keep on calling it a "field". You only know what has been your experience in a few circumstances with a few women. My friends and I have literally been approached by hundreds of men. I alone have been approached by hundreds of men. I know that NOTHING WORKS. She has already made up her mind when she saw you. You can ask a woman out without touching her. Or you can touch her …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:34 PM
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Everyone has different reasons and motivations. But there is a core of entitlement. And a lot of people who feel entitled are not good future thinkers or big picture thinkers. If you steal: why do people have things that I don't? I should have those things, too. If you rape: I want that person's body. Why should they be able to keep it from me when I want it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 07:27 PM
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Yew, at my age, it's all about that fresh young meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 07:23 PM
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Literally Superman is creepy af now. Let that sink in. He would be if he were creeping on young girls instead of going after the age-appropriate Lois Lane. Think how that would change our concept of superman if that were the case. Let that sink in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 07:21 PM
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I doubt you'd do that to a guy who looks like Henry Cavill. That old guy? That would be creepy af.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:11 PM
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but being willing to escalate, and intrude into a woman's comfort zone is essential. If you really "intruded into her comfort zone" she would have sent you packing. What you did was to show interest. Lots of women have low self esteem, and if they think a guy is not interested, they won't show their own interest. but will soon shrug it off because another guy - one who was willing to take action - has her attention. NO. A thousand times NOPE. It isn't because of the guy "taking action" that got …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 11:49 AM
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women reward men who escalate and penalize men who don't - which means that men who want to get intimate with a woman (regardless of nature of that relationship) are required to risk making women varying degrees of uncomfortable to find those who respond positively to their approaches. oh fuck off. That kind of stuff being spread around by clueless men makes my blood boil. No, escalating and touching women will not get your dick wet. Touching her won't make her hot for you in any way. If the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 02:54 AM
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When circumstances permit profit from violence, men absolutely are willing to inflict violence on other men. Men, statistically, inflict violence on other men way more often then they do on women. I disagree. Men inflict violence on women way more than other men. Most domestic violence is not reported. Men do kill other men more - men who are not their intimate partners, but often men who are criminals like them. And they DO feel entitled to kill the other man - over money or drugs. Or they woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 02:49 AM
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It’s because the man is a threat in terms of defending himself and the woman isn’t . Therefore, the other person feels entitled to manhandle the one that can't easily fight back. The thief is entitled because they know they could get money by working in a paid job, but instead take the shortcut. At some level, they feel entitled to other people's money/things or they wouldn't be able to steal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 02:38 AM
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People stealing shit know that stuff doesn't belong to them. They feel entitled to steal it. It's entirely possible those guys are completely clear that they have no right to your body, but are doing what they think will bring them the most success, either sexual success or social standing. They wouldn't do the same to a man. If a man at work has the job they want, they won't manhandle him out of his office. But some guys, if they see a woman who has the body they want, they feel free to manhand…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 06:10 AM
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Knowing that most criminals are fatherless and that fatherless homes are something relatively new, I don't know what kind of problem you're talking about. It's been discussed on ppd multiple times. Back when almost all people had fathers in the home, the crime rate was through the roof. These days, those same kind of people get divorced or don't stay together, and among those people, some will grow up to be criminals. It's a matter of poverty and education and society. Fathers in the home doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 06:08 AM
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a boy toy who doesn't grow up is headed for a world of disappointment. There's not much of a market for used up and worn out toys. But if that's what he wants to do with his time?? It's not much different to terpers wanting to spin plates all their lives (even if it's only in their own minds and fake field reports)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 05:00 AM
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Back then people valued family and their role and duty more than love, they would marry people they barely know, feel love for a time and then have it fade away, but wouldn't separate Awful. No wonder society had so many problems back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 04:58 AM
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Sorry -- but its time to grow out of your boy toy phase. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 01:20 AM
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By the same logic most RPers would be bad bets for LTRs since most “gave their all” or however you want to put it in prior relationships and now they’ve wised up and aim to invest as little as they can get away with. Yep. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:37 PM
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I think it has more to do with the fact that it's in relation to previous men. It would be one thing if a dude was like "I need xyz sex act in my relationship", but when he's like "I only need xyz sex act in my relationship if she's done it before at any time in her life, regardless of her reasons, but if she hasn't, I'm cool without" then it seems that insecurity could be a reasonable cause. Yes. You get it. I'm talking about irrational obsession about her past relationships, without context.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:36 PM
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Well would you look at that. Without fail, any time a man has any boundaries or standards for his relationships it's because he's """insecure.""" No. Standards and boundaries are GOOD and healthy. Obsessing over what a woman might have done with previous boyfriends is not healthy. If a guy spent all his money on a previous gf that he was crazy about but grew up enough to realise it was dumb - and then he dated me - I would not feel slighted because he's not spending all his money on me. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:35 PM
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the bloated Cheeto hahahahaha love it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:32 PM
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Unfortunately most women over 30 are no longer capable of the type of desire guys crave. I don't know if that's true. I think most men just don't stay romantic enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:30 PM
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Hahahaha, I've been there too. Honestly, I think a lot of adolescent craziness is just hormones wanting an outlet, not that anyone involved was "Chad". I was a dorky high-schooler, so a lot of that energy in me was spent obsessing over fictional characters and random obviously-unobtainable people (teachers, The Cute Guy Who Works at That One Shop I Spoke to Once, celebrities). Yes! I had 'book boyfriends' that I obsessed over.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:27 PM
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I am insecure about a lot of things. TRP slams women for being insecure, but it's the way things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:26 PM
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insecurity is a meaningless cunt shaming word for "if you act on this feeling it will be to my detriment as a woman" All people get insecure. Your cunt-shaming definition is your internalised misogyny speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:24 PM
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Think of gestures or behaviors that you love to receive from a partner. It could be gifts, cuddles, going on adventures together, him listening to you, etc. Basically something that you value that would push a mediocre relationship into a good or great relationship. Something that makes you feel desired and signals that he's highly invested. Personally, sex is the greatest gift he can give me. In terms of cuddles, listening, adventures etc - I don't care whether he gave those things to a previou…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:20 PM
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this is just woman shaming talk that has no regard for males psychology wants and needs It is not. Male psychology wants and needs are pretty much the same as women's anyway. I am saying that a woman who is so crazy for you that she'll do anything is usually silly in some way. I'm not wrong. Most women have boundaries. A woman who'll "do anything" for a man is usually underconfident or hurt by another man and trying to prove something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:12 PM
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The question is: would you have been on board with having orgies with him and your other 16 year old girlfriends? Ugh. No. Just being unrealistically in love with someone - which isn't that uncommon for younger people - automatically translates into having porn sex with him. What do you mean? I was thinking about romance and dinners and picnics with that teacher at age 16. Porn sex was never on my mind. Is that what you meant or did I misread you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 09:41 PM
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If “young and silly” women fall prey to douche-y, sleazy assholes, then being young and silly obviously has nothing to do with desire. It's because the women are inexperienced and underconfident and are pushovers. Young women also have crushes that they fall in and out of. She might be crazy about you one minute and the next wonder what the hell she was thinking. As I said, it's about being young and making mistakes. Is it wrong for men to want to be desired by women they’re in a relationship wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 09:36 PM
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I want to have hot sex and go to titty bars and shit. The girls who are head over heels for me don't bat an eye about that shit. Only girls who are already okay with that will be okay with that - unless, as I said, they are very young and silly and easy to push over. I am not okay with that stuff and it doesn't matter who I date, I won't be okay with that. I may be young but I'm not silly. You need to find a certain kind of woman for what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 09:32 PM
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you can sexually assault someone in a relationship. Yes, but the difference is that dick pics are sent via phone, in the middle of a range of texts sent between the two people. The evidence should be there, in the texts. You do know that men have escaped false rape claims due to the texts that were sent and received by the woman? Texts can be pretty good evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 09:30 PM
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If we value having a society with low levels of mental retardation and birth defects, we need to find ways to persuade our most intelligent, relaxed, nonfeminist women to have children early. Then we also need to find ways to persuade relaxed, intelligent, non-misogynist men to have kids early, too. Because their sperm degrades with every year that they're alive. We also should give every childless feminist a million dollars to get sterilized. Every woman who is doing what she chooses to do and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 09:27 PM
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You seem to get it. A lot of "Career Women" TM seem to be only passionate about work and its like the rest of life does not matter. Only the project, the deadline, the client. As someone who works the last thing I want at home and on dates is a continuation of the hours I spend in the office. That's exactly what women hate about career husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 08:17 PM
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What would you do if male cheating was the norm? It never will be. A stronger force than sexual variety is love. People will stick with one person in order to give and receive love. If male cheating was the norm, then women wouldn't love men. And female cheating would be the norm, too. And no one would love each other. Society would suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 08:12 PM
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they want to be the hot guy who makes her crazy In other words, they are so insecure that they want a woman who is young and silly and making mistakes left, right and centre. When I was 16, I had the worst crush on a teacher of mine. I thought he was heaven on a stick. Three years later, I wonder what the hell I was thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 07:58 PM
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Is, for example, putting off having children indefinitely out of fear it will hurt one's career really "independence and autonomy"? It is until there is something better. If there was a good way of doing both, then more women would do it. Or trying to raise children without a single free moment in the day, immense burnout, and feeling like you've failed because you can't have it all, is that meaningful "independence and autonomy"? Yes, that is the story of a lot of stay-at-home mothers. They hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 07:53 PM
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There would be a lot of context around it. The pic arrived by phone, so it's obvious that the two people communicate via phone, and there would be a lot of text evidence on their phones as to their relationship at the time of the pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 07:48 PM
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Your girlfriend is at dinner with you and solicits a dick pic, you send her one. A month later you break up with her and she's pissed. She reports you for sending her an unsolicited dick pic and you have to register as a sex offender. If she solicited it, there would be a text record of that? There would also be text records of romantic texts between you after the dick pic? I mean, you don't have to get that severe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 12:11 AM
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As if I'm some dead end, something they can't avoid at some point in their life. Ha! Yeah, women don't want to be some guy's dead end.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 12:07 AM
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If the alternative is a life alone its not bad at all. There are generally other alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 12:06 AM
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Is this trade-off better? Yes of course it's better. Women want independence and autonomy. Being dependent on a husband makes for a very precarious existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 12:06 AM
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The obligations didn't only flow in one direction That's why women want to make their own money these days. So that they're not held over a barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 09:09 PM
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Was that really such a bad thing? Yes it is a bad thing for men or women to have to marry someone they don't desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 08:40 PM
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You have a right to feel the way you do. If you can't accept her past, then you have a right to do so. I have turned down dates from men who I know have had a lot of sex with a lot of different women. Something about it turns me right off. Over eight months though, did she not have sex with anyone else? Did the two of you fall in love with each other? I think, if that was me, I couldn't end the relationship after all that. But if you feel like it goes against what you believe in, then you did th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 08:25 PM
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What if it was the man who 'slept around'? Would you say he had no self-control and could not pair-bond, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 08:18 PM
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No guy wants to be given step by step instruction. As in most interactions with women its far better to observe her reactions rather than listen to her what she's saying. Which is exactly why guys don't learn how to do it in a way that we'll orgasm. Watching her reactions is fine, but it might be very, very hit and miss, because while it feels good, she can't get into the zone from which she can reach orgasm - and then she'll get tired and bored of it, and maybe fake orgasm just so you'll stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 07:45 PM
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We simply want to have a functioning relationship and take care of our responsibilities. That's exactly what you have. That's what my parents have and what I want when I eventually marry, or shack up lol Unequal is when one person feels like they are lumbered with certain jobs just because of their gender or because they bring in less money/no money or because the other person is more dominant etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 07:40 PM
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Most are - and women are in the best position possible. Every woman knows something about what other women want to buy, and women are easier to sell to, as they use insta etc. All they're doing is buying in stock, or designing their own, and selling it via instagram. It's not hard. It's supply and demand. Some women (not the ones I know) are making millions overnight. As long as you don't get too big too quick and spread too thin, you're ok. I don't think guys realise what's happening out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 11:53 PM
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It's unequal if she insists he work or he insists she stay at home. One person dominating the other is common - usually the man dominating the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 11:45 PM
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What does dominate mean to you? When one person gets their way over the other most or all of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 11:43 PM
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Congratulations. You have just described an equal relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 11:39 PM
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A lot of women here seem to think they can magic money and success out of the air and they don't actually need men for these things, when the fact is you do if you want to live a certain lifestyle and don't have the skillset or time (and if you are a woman, you don't have time if you want a family) to develop it yourself. Dude, you are so behind the times. I know at least a dozen women - all friends of my older sisters who are killing it with their own companies. They absolutely don't need men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 10:54 PM
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If a man doesn't bring his penis, I'm outta there. His wealth and status doesn't equate to sex. If he's not young and sexy, then ewwwwwww
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 10:46 PM
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I'm 19 and I'm not going to 'waste my prime' getting married, especially not to a man in his mid-30s. I've got too much living to do - I'm not giving myself up to a man who partied with party girls, slutted around and now is in the market for a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 10:42 PM
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that's all people nope. Not all are into choking FFS. I'm certainly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 11:01 AM
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That sub would be dominated by people into kinky sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 06:43 AM
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The issue is that the men of PPD point to lack of arousal upon sight as lack of attraction. That is simply not the case. Okay. Yep, agreed. That's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 05:40 AM
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And! Sometimes you can be aroused and your body says, "Fuck it, I'm not getting wet. Fuck you and your desire for sex." That's happened to me a few times! I seriously wanted it but didn't get wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 01:30 AM
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Women need touch or banter or escalation to go from attraction to arousal Not quite. Because you can't talk about attraction separately from those things. If a woman is already feel aroused (aroused enough to want an orgasm), then the sight of a hot guy is all she needs to want him sexually. And yes, she might get wet. The attraction is close to 90% of the deal. Arousal will happen on its own from there. Touch, banter and escalation won't help and will actually produce an ewww if the attraction …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 01:29 AM
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A woman can chose to drop off her kids at an adoption shelter (or get an abortion) and whipe her hands completely clean of her motherhood responsibilities, even if the father disagrees with this decision. No, a woman cannot adopt her child out without the father's consent if he takes steps to gain custody. He has to show that he is the father and is behaving as a father would - taking steps to provide for the child. If he does this, he could gain custody. If he's married to the mother and she do…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 01:02 AM
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I said masculine traits. Lots of men aren't the least bit masculine. They're not masculine traits. They're people traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 03:09 AM
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So blood flow studies are inaccurate in detecting female arousal. hahahaha no. Blood flow is everything. Sorry dude, but women can feel their genitals swelling and it does indeed mean arousal. Men are more visual. You keep stating that. Doesn't make it true
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:35 PM
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Bullshit. Women don't give a shit about any of those You are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:32 PM
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Many men cannot have face to face access with their children even if they want to, due to spiteful ex-wives And it's terrible when that happens - and we need better laws so it doesn't happen. Some men date out of necessity for some socialization to fill the time between their visitation days. Nothing wrong with that. It's just if they seek out women during their visitation days that you can see where their priorities lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:31 PM
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However; honesty, loyalty, and bravery are indeed core masculine traits. You can say it. Doesn't make it true at all. Honesty - men have lied to women and cheated from the beginning of time. They have swindled each other out of money. They have sent companies down the drain with their rorts. Women are far more honest. Loyalty - no more loyal than women are. Bravery - no braver than women are. Bravery can be a lot of things. Such as a woman who lost five babies and children turning around and put…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:29 PM
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Your experiences of people you know is spot on with what I'm hearing. I'm sure there are some great men/dads out there in deep pain over not having as much access to their kids as they want - and terrible mothers who use their kids as pawns. But mostly, it seems that the scenario you outlined is the most common.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:20 PM
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Sounds like he did. No he didn't. A weekend dad isn't looking after his kids in the way the mother is all week long.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:15 PM
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I find the fact that you and your friends discuss your sexuality so freely fascinating. I have only once had a conversation with a friend about masturbating and it went as far as "if you're not sure if you've ever reached orgasm then you haven't." We're pretty open. I think it's a good thing. I can assure you that a healthy sex drive can last well past middle age. Good to know!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:12 PM
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Men do have a higher need to 'scratch the itch' than women but that doesn't mean their sex drives are lacking any cerebral or psychological aspects. Thanks for your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:10 PM
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Yep. But they try to tear me a new asshole every time I point out that this type of attitude only fuels judges and lawyers who favor moms. Excellent point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:09 PM
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99.9% of men throughout history knew that was true, only the 0.01% lowest T and cuckiest men (modern, white, atheist, WEIRD men) think it's not. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:07 PM
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Wow, dailydot is your source? Well now I'm convinced. It's not the source, The source is in the article: https://www.autostraddle.com/how-often-do-lesbians-have-sex-283731/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:06 PM
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Oh you don't like sex? That's cool lots of other girls do. Not from a guy who's out there seeking it as his priority. Such men have a slimy yuk factor about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:03 PM
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That's sad - on a few levels. Sad for older men if their wives die first. Sad for older women who are still married to feel like they are some kind of servants.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:01 PM
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My dad didn't get the chance to look after his own kids because he was kicked out the house. The kids need a house. He could still have looked after you guys, if he chose to. He did not go to the mall to meet a woman. He took the kids to the mall. The woman he met just so happened to be on her break and noticed him. Small talk. Some dates. Married. Keep telling yourself that. The "gentle, submissive" woman you described approached a man - and way back in those days, too. Didn't happen. My father…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 06:35 PM
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Again, old studies that relied on surveys. 1953?? 1952??. And your link did say the results of those studies were confounded by other evidence. Newer studies show the same genital blood flow in men and women when presented with visual sexual stimuli. Women are trained to deny sexual feelings. But the blood flow studies don;t lie. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/jul/05/what-do-women-want-extract https://www.lehmiller.com/blog/2013/9/13/sex-question-friday-are-men-more-visually-aroused-than…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 06:28 PM
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It fell to gynocentrism. Many other things will follow. Can't wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 06:13 PM
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I agree. Life skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 06:10 PM
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In the past year I’ve dated men ages 21-65 Woah!! You'd have some stories to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 06:09 PM
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I have heard a few of the older ladies in my family/my friends' families say the same thing. Mostly about the cooking and cleaning thing. They say they done their time, like it was a jail sentence, and they never want to have to care for a man again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 06:07 PM
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Honor, loyalty, and bravery are core masculine traits lol They are not. What a fucking joke. No one but the red pill believe this. Some people have those traits. Others don't. Men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 06:02 PM
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It appears to me that a lot of men can not just live without women. Seems that way to me, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 05:59 PM
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Men remarry at higher rates because if they don't, for some, their choice is the slow death by isolation or suicide. Why don't they just invest as much time into their kids as women do? What was he doing meeting women at the mall when he had the kids on an access visit? Jeez if some men don't have a mommy wife looking after them, they're just not happy. They can't be happy looking after their own fucking children, can they? Between the shock, the sense of failure, the loss of kids, the loss of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 05:56 PM
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f she is going to divorce me, and take custody of the kids, she made the decision to keep me out of the kids life. I will let her live with the decision she made. I am not going to give myself, my energy, heart and soul, to something that will always be painful and self-sacrificing at the pleasure of a person who took these lives away from me.. I rather go start a new family with the lessons i learned from the first relationship. Fuck. You should never ever have kids. That's so cold. Instead of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 05:51 PM
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Hearing older women talk - this is true. Men don't want the kids when they first divorce. Looking for sex is more important. Then later on they get a girlfriend or marry, so that she can help look after the kids when he has them on weekend visits and cook for them/clean up after them. At this point, he might want custody of the kids because he has a woman to take care of them now and he also wants to stop paying child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 05:47 PM
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You can keep giving me old tired links about lesbians all day if you like. The links are old and dusty and don't appear to be true. I gave you a newer study that says otherwise. It's pretty much scientific consensus that women are less visual than men. That's not what the article said. It said that the assumption that men are more sexually visually stimulated is confounded by "the variable content of the stimuli presented and measurement techniques" Men are more stimulated by women than women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 05:39 PM
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This!!!! A "ur hot do u do anal" message is gross from the greasy guy at the takeaway shop, and it's gross from the Chris-Hemsworth-look-alike. It's just gross. Yeh, it's just weird they think we get some kind of thrill out of a hot guy wanting sex from us. They're projecting hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 05:30 PM
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It's amusing to see that women need a drawer full of sex toys to feel sexually pleasured We don't actually need them. It's about fun and heightening pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 05:29 PM
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The answer is that it depends on the man. If a gross fat greasy tow-truck guy hits on you, it probably decreases your self-esteem and makes you want to teleport away to a desert island. Yes. Whereas, if a gorgeous handsome stud hits on you then you'll probably be delighted/thrilled/happy, and want to show all the text-messages to your friends. No. What the fuck? Gorgeous guys hit on us all the time. If he's prowling for sex, it's still pretty yuk. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 02:49 PM
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In the current year (2018 for those living under a rock); millennial women have a voracious sexual appetite and certainly have no social restraint on indulging in their desires. Hence why the average woman probably fucks a new guy every week. Not true. I'd say most are using vibrators and not having that much sex. Men are too much trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 02:44 PM
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Cool. I'll have to see what it's like as i get older
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 02:41 PM
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I'll take the 19 year old nymphomaniac any day of the week! I'm not a nympho. I have two older sisters who are mid to late 20s. Their sex drive is similar to mine - we talk. Except they are both in relationships and have a lot more sex than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 02:40 PM
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Gay men ass blast each other on the reg because they love the sight of cock. Ass blast eh? Love the sight of cock eh? You have a very interesting way of putting these things. Men are more likely to have multiple partners and women more likely to have relationships. Therefore, gay men will have more sex. Lesbian bed death Is a myth: https://www.dailydot.com/irl/lesbian-bed-death-myth/ Also, the porn watched most by women is lesbian (already proven to you in an earlier post and link) If your hypot…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 02:30 PM
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You are horny for Chad, not for common men. I am a sexual being. Full stop. Women don't need a man to feel horny. A cute guy who is not Chad is what most women want and go for and are more than happy to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 02:21 PM
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If I had a dollar for every sex toy I've worn out ... I have a drawer full. Every one gets used.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 02:18 PM
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Women are asexual. Deal with it. Cuckoo Cuckoo (channelling Jack Black)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 02:17 PM
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I don't have a boyfriend at the moment. Guys bodies do turn me on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 02:16 PM
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I am fully convinced that a lot of the machismo TRP promotes isn't to turn women on, it's to make the man feel sexier) Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 02:15 PM
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Putting it that way makes it seem like you think men are offended by the idea their sex drives can be more complicated and more psychological than the standard "men just want sex" narrative. It seems that many ARE offended. Because I hear men say that all red-blooded men want sex all the time, at the drop of a hat - and NEVER hear men say any other narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 02:15 PM
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women's manifest asexuality Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 06:54 AM
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Yes. Sex drive is so tied up with masculinity for men that there seems there is no room for the real narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 01:46 AM
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C'mon you're 16. Seriously. You're not fooling me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 01:45 AM
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Take sex with all the men all the time option, pretty please. 10/10 people know you wouldn't like the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 01:44 AM
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But young women have not yet had their hearts pushed through a thresher, and even when they say no, they are still very excited and happy inside to know that that guy thought they were cute. I'm 19. I do not feel happy or excited when guys approach me out of the blue. I think they want sex and I don't like it. And I also think they're desperate and trying out a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 12:20 AM
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It's not hard for women to get sex, It can be hard for her to get sex from the same man, continuously. If that's what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 11:38 PM
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I don’t see how a reward the other way has an impact on women rewarding men with sex. The OP is posed as only women being rewards and not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 11:36 PM
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Well, the moment a man complains that he is failing to get a partner they tell him that "He is not working hard enough" or that "He needs to try other things" and "Try harder". Women are framed as rewards even by women themselves. Women can't win, can they? If they say "You're fine as you are. You'll find someone", they're evil witches lying to men because they "don't want betas improving themselves or whatever". If they say "You could improve yourself", they're evil witches positioning themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 11:34 PM
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Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 11:28 PM
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Is this the post you meant? Ok, you set me a lot of homework there. Good thing I read fast, boyo. I saw a lot of studies from therapists etc who deal with low sexual desire from their patients. Many of those women like sex a lot more once they get started. But they don't represent the entirity of women - because women with a high sex drive will not seek out therapy. Many other women are feeling flat on hormonal birth control but a lot more horny when off birth control. And when you consider the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 11:26 PM
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Of course not -- but he'll get more than enough. No. He won't. That's my point. An asshole will only ever get the kind of women who are attracted to assholes - airheads. There will come a time where he craves the kind of women who reject him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 11:09 PM
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Are you going to respond to the post above? I don't know which one you mean - busy life here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 11:07 PM
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If it makes you feel better to say that I'm triggered rather than just debating you, then okay!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 11:05 PM
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Okay. If it makes you feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 11:05 PM
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His name is funny but he’s a researcher with actual credibility. I said I agreed with the section you posted, that I reposted, Now you’re blaming society for women having reactive sexualities which is another thing entirely. Whether women have reactive sexualities because society manipulates them into having it is irrelevant in this discussion. It’s matter of fact that they do, so the source is of little relevance. No, you misunderstand. I did not say that society is giving women reactive sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 06:37 AM
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my truth bombs lol and then several of them send me pm's and say "my gawd you are so right it shocked me." Pics or it didn't happen Every high status female I've ever known, specifically attractive high status females, would read my post here and be like yup, spot on. Double lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 03:09 AM
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Roy Baumeister I don't care who he is. What women actually do speaks far, far louder than what one guy thinks they do. Women, on the other hand, have a much more variable sex drive, far more responsive to the surrounding circumstances. He based these conclusions on a broad range of empirical findings. According to this research, women have greater variation both in the level of sexual activity and choice of gender over time. Moreover, women's sexuality is far more influenced by cultural factors,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 03:06 AM
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No. The most commonly consumed porn for women is erotica, not lesbian porn. This is the second study I’ve linked tonight where researchers found women have reactive sexualities. How many more would you like? Dear Smoogs. You are confusing romance and sex. Again. You're comparing romance books with porn. The stats are abundantly clear. Women search for and watch lesbian porn online, more than any other kind. They're sexually getting off to lesbian porn. I don't know how the stats could be clearer…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 02:59 AM
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Is itso small that there will likely be no attractive women in the group? There will be lots of attractive women in the group. Seriously. Name one person who ever lived who actually had every person he or she wanted. Name one person who ever existed, or even one fictional person, who had every man or woman he or she ever wanted. You can't. You can't do it, because it's an impossible standard. For sure. Am just saying that looks & status are no guarantee. Whereas if it were purely a transaction i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 02:50 AM
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You hit the nail on the head. It's all about transactions for them. Someone has to be the buyer and someone has to be the seller. Haven't they heard of free trade agreements? ;) ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 02:47 AM
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You’re just moralizing. No. I'm paraphrasing rp. There’s not inherently wrong with women rewarding men or asshole men with sex. And nothing inherently true, either. We're debating something that doesn't exist. Except for a small number of women, it's not true. If men want to change their strategy to sleep with more women then let them. Stop moralizing. You cannot get up early enough in the morning to catch me out with a strawman like this ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 02:45 AM
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How is receiving a reward victimizing? It maybe harder but it’s certainly more rewarding lmao EVERYTHING rp comes up with comes with a negative slant against women. 'Women reward asshole men with sex and then have their bastard spawn. If women would only have sex with betas, then betas would be a lot happier and women wouldn't be training men to be assholes."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 01:16 AM
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Maybe it doesn't affect you and you lack empathy? That's rich coming from the anyone who aligns themselves with the red pill. They have zero empathy for women. All women are to them are objects to stick dicks into and gain validation from.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 12:51 AM
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I disagree. It’s been my experience that young women still desire to be swept off their feet by an active act of romance from a male. Yes, woman love romance and being swept off their feet. But this is the thing - they don't need this to want sex with a man. Do you see my point? Love and sex and not the same thing in a woman's mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:54 PM
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female sexuality in general is passive. It's not passive. You have some weird ideas about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:53 PM
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Correct. Same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:52 PM
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It’s uncommon that an attractive male is suffice in and of himself. It is suffice. Most men, I think, can just jerk off at a still image of an attractive woman. Or in the very real sense, feel fulfilled by treating an actual woman as a mere physical object. Female sexuality just isn’t like that from my experience. Because women have more interesting and restricted bodily features. Everyone wants women. Even women. Men's bodies are not restricted - they're easy to access. But women don't need a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:52 PM
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Duuuuude, the most popular porn for women is woman-on-woman. Which means they're looking for sex from someone who knows how to get them off. Experiences uncorrelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:48 PM
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So you're using the biased experiences of one human being. A human who is not a woman. And you're using an idea of the porn woman consume? Er.... so you're using the idea that most western women are lesbian, sexually? Because here are the stats: https://www.maxim.com/maxim-man/what-porn-women-watch-2016-3 This idea of a man sweeping a woman off her feet is not only touted by RP women lmao Men fall in love, too. That's what the sweeping feeling is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:43 PM
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Women absolutely require men to make them feel sexy and desired to have sex hahahahahahahahahahahaha Joke's on you if you believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:34 PM
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Men don't typically sleep with women because she makes him feel wanted and hot. You're projecting female sexuality onto men. You're projecting your idea of female sexuality onto PPD. Women don't sleep with men because they make her feel hot and wanted. That idea is laughable. You don't have the barest clue about female sexuality - except for the small group of women who are "red" in their viewpoint - which isn't most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:33 PM
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So while makeup is still a reward structure, it's not the same in that it doesn't manifest itself as men being seen as a reward unlike the trope of women being a reward. It's the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:30 PM
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It sounds like you're just calling what makes each gender want to sleep with someone as "inherently framing sex as a reward." Exactly. What is it with red/purples here with needing to give something a name that forever casts men in a victim role?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:29 PM
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but her actions are inherently rewarding or responsive of the male's actions. She is inherently framing it as a reward. What if she just wanted to get it off with a hot-looking male? Is it his looks that are being rewarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:26 PM
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The most successful guys I've ever known when it came to women didn't give two shits about almost any of them, and if they did it was a passing affection at best. All those women knew they were not necessarily wanted, but they rewarded these guys with sex and attention as a means to make themselves feel sexy and wanted through sex with a high status male-it was not the male who made them feel that way with his actions but with his status and therefore wasn't his intention at all. Only a small gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:24 PM
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Positive = rawr lets bang daddy Negative = get away from me loser ew gross! Have you considered how men reward women?? If we want to call it rewards, then rewards go both ways. ​ Positive = rawr let's bang mummy - I'm so good looking that I can get the best-looking girls who are into casual sex. Or, let's bang mummy and keep her around, maybe for life - she's that good. Negative = get me away from her as soon as I nail her. Ugh gross
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:21 PM
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DO you understand marketing and competition at all? Really so you just select any bank? There offers and marketing rewards them with customers? This wasn't directed at me, but I'll answer it anyway. Because I'm rude like that. In that case, men are rewarding women with sex, too. If he stays with her and keeps giving her sex, and only her, then he is rewarding her with his penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 09:48 PM
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If you ask any woman on Earth, she will tell you that sex happened because she wanted to have sex and was in the mood to have it. Yes! This is what happens. (Except in the case of sympathy sex in a married relationship. Women sometimes give this to men. Men are selfish and don't give it to women, though - even if they can't get it up they could still give her oral. But they don't. From the drunken words of my aunties, people)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 09:45 PM
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You win women over by adopting the traits, physical appearance etc. that women select for, ergo sex is a 'reward' in that it influences the behavior of men as men seek to imitate the traits and appearance of those who are most successful. This is literally the reason for the existence of PUA and Red Pill. Women win men by adopting the traits and physical appearance men select for, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 09:42 PM
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weve had our differences but congratulations on beign the only man alive who understands female sexuality Is this serious or a joke? That is nothing like female sexuality. Women don't even need men to feel sexual. A man making a woman feel special is for relationships. Men also want to feel special in terms of the woman they're dating/married to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 09:39 PM
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> It becomes obvious that female sexuality often manifests itself as a response to how a particular man makes her feel. This inherently frames successful male sexuality as a set of actions where the response is a woman feeling desired resulting in sex. Women frame romance, intimacy and sex within the context of a man acting upon her to make her feel wanted and desired. ​ What the fuck? No. Maybe older women feel this way but they grew up in a different era, in which women weren't supposed to lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 09:37 PM
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Im curious, do you think that women desire casual sex at the same intensity as the average man Yes and no. She probably would if she was 1. guaranteed an orgasm in the same way younger men generally are and 2. The risk was as low as it is for men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 05:23 AM
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Such people have seen hundreds of cases. Unlike you and I.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 12:26 PM
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Just because a woman masturbates does not mean she does not desire emotional intimacy True. Also true: Just because a man masturbates does not mean he does not desire emotional intimacy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 12:25 PM
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Unverified self reported surveys !!! The bane of ppd Oh, I didn't say the surveys didn't exist. They do. In both Amato and Previti’s study, and in the report by Johnson and colleagues, women were more likely than men to report a marriage ending because of abuse. I recall a talk by Amato, years ago, where he noted that, on average, many marriages end when women become fed up with men behaving badly. Similarly, Johnson and colleagues reported the top reasons men and women gave for divorcing and fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 12:17 PM
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Nope you said what you thought I'd say and then answered it. That's talking to yourself. Women incentivize men to be assholes, and then complain if men are assholes. Only in the eyes of rp. It's a coping mechanism. What women actually do is incentivize men to stick around, and they don't complain when men do. Men incentivize women to be pretty, but men don't complain if women are pretty. You could also argue that men incentivize women to become sluts and then complain if they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 11:55 AM
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Not saying that is the only thing, but how a woman looks is probably the most important thing for her in terms of dating It's the most important thing for men in terms of dating, too. Good looking men are not short of dates. Whereas for men, it is a very easy hole to fall down. Women fall down the same hole if they are not considered attractive by men. And it's more painful for women not to be attractive because society praises and focuses on beautiful women. Validation via sex doesn't count, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 01:23 AM
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What are you basing this on? Wishful thinking? Because that is literally never the case from what I've seen. Basing it on the family court lawyer I see posting all the time in this forum. Have forgotten her name.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 12:55 AM
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You must have fun having these conversations with yourself. Do we complain about women being pretty? Irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 12:53 AM
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Yes really. Most of these sentences are laughable, especially in comparison to how men are treated. It's changing fast - you need to keep up. And who is to blame for the rulings of the past? Men. Male police and judges who think that boys who are molested by female teachers got a lucky break. And who is changing this situation? Women. Yep. Imagine that. Women ensuring that other women get proper jail time for the same crime that men have been committing. “Law enforcement is increasingly feminize…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 12:48 AM
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Men are stronger and faster, hence they are scarier. No. It's not because of that. It's because of the % of men who rape women. You don't worry when a man twice your size enters the bathroom because stats say he won't rape you. If big guys raped men as often as men rape women, you'd have concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:55 PM
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Really? Because I've been reading reports of jail time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:51 PM
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Do you not realise that men exact the same kind of pressures on women? Look at all that women do in order to be sexually attractive. The idea behind it all is procreation, and both men and women put pressures on each other. It's not like women are bee queens with drone males scrambling to please her. Most young men, if they want to get a girlfriend, can get a girlfriend. Sex is a gift they give each other equally. If the guy only wants sex, it's harder, because only a relatively small number of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:48 PM
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It's the rain, not the wheather, that makes the ground wet. It's the mysterious petrichor of maturity and life stages that propels women to want to settle down - sticking with a weather theme. Happens to men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:35 PM
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Had you not found out, you would have loved him even more. If he acted normal of course. Case closed. Huh? If I didn't know then this whole scenario makes no sense. Bu if they do not know the truth, then it's all fine. Same for men. If they didn't know their woman is having sex with another man, and she acts normal, they'd be fine too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:32 PM
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As long as you don't expect to get the same value guy then as you could now. My two older sisters got much better deals in their mid to late-20s than they did when they were younger, and I expect to as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:29 PM
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Nice list. I think most women would already know that list though. Some women, however, choose to lie to themselves. There isn't anything on there that I don't already know. Probably a good list for girls aged 14-17 For the majority of you, only when your sexual marketplace value falls will you make good on your cries of “hating players” and “just try to find a nice guy.” LOL no. I already know I want to have fun for the next few years, and then when I'm mature enough, I'll think about something…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 12:13 PM
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Because he begged. And was beta about it. If he acted casually you would have stayed. Like most women I was gone before he had a chance to say or do anything at all. The begging came days after. He had no shadow of a chance from the second I found out. This is a common story. I have girlfriends who dumped their boyfriends after finding out he cheated and it's totally normal. If you think you can have a girlfriend who'll stay after you cheat on her, all I can say it, go right ahead and try it. Es…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 11:53 AM
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Large surveys say I'm right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 11:47 AM
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Switch "reward" for "incentive/incentivize" if this makes you feel better. Facts don't care about feelings. Women do not incentivize men through sex in the context of this discussion. Sex is a not a prize women bestow on men. RP's biggest problem is that they concentrate on that 10% of women who have lots of sex with lots of men. Which makes sense if your goal is to have lots of sex - but there just aren't enough female studs to go around, and so it is also the source of great unhappiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 11:46 AM
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Then argue it I'd have to argue it with a mod and can't be bothered. Seems that people get away with doing this all the time, despite what the rules say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 08:03 AM
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So Rihanna has low self esteem? Yes. Something inside her doesn't think she deserves better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 08:02 AM
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"Sex is a reward" "Women will use sex as a reward to manipulate you" That's old. As women gain more power, they less and less need to resort to tactics. Got their own money and independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 08:00 AM
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Nah. Girls always say this but women adore a guy who cheats on them. They say they hate him, they pretend they will hate him, they even think they will. But then? Has happened to me. He said it was just one drunken night. Begged me to forgive him. But I walked away on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 07:59 AM
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I thought thread titles were supposed to be neutral. The subject of your title can be argued and is not a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 03:49 AM
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why guys feel so much anger when a girl sexually cheats on them but females are more into the emotional intimacy cheat? You're stating that as a fact and it's not a fact. I thought thread titles were supposed to be neutral. The subject of your title can be argued and is not a fact. Women are upset with cheating, full stop. It's worse if he has sex with her. If a guy I'm dating has sex with another girl, he doesn't get a second chance with me. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 03:44 AM
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She liked me because of how I treated her when we actually met up for real. How did you treat her?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 12:50 AM
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Also, most divorces weren’t over literal abuse, it’s over them just being unhappy for no tangible reason No, it's because the men are abusive or abusing themselves (substance abuse) or abusing the relationship (infidelity). More women then men want to leave a relationship, and it's because they can't take it anymore. It's hard for a woman with children to leave - financially and socially, she's better off married. And so generally if she leaves, there is a compelling reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 12:39 AM
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But niceness still has nothing to do with how SEXUALLY ATTRACTIVE you are, while certain other personality traits that may or may not have anything to do with being an actual good person do have to do with sexual attraction. Yes, it does. Sorry to disagree but I disagree strongly. Niceness does make a man more sexually attractive - if his looks are sexually attractive in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 12:38 AM
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men still hold the power to make decisions. If men are making the decisions for men, women and society, then women are infantilised. but because women don't deserve to make those decisions. That's your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 12:35 AM
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RPs don't see sex as a reward for men They keep using that word "reward". Don't try to tell me they don't. It's there in black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 12:31 AM
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Another issue is that sexual attraction also does not work the same for men and women. Men are highly visual and therefor can easily rate women on a scale from 1-10 just based on looks which corresponds pretty accurately to how sexually attracted they are to the women in question. Women on the other hand are also attracted to “personality“/ presence in a man (status, confidence, dominance, etc.) and a lot of women's sexuality is reactive instead of spontaneous. So for one, a man's looks on a sca…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 09:54 PM
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Why are all you feminists obsessed over who gets 'higher' payment? Atlas is not a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 09:37 PM
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Some women are psychos who throw histrionic fits and call 911 everytime they see who looks creepy walking down the street 10,000 feet away from them. Yes! Very true. Everything triggers them. The male equivalent is rp. They throw testerical fits about women being awful and AWALTy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 09:36 PM
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No such thing as a good man in the feminist mind. All men are schrodingers rapist. Not true at all. You're talking about extreme radicals there. If it were vaguely true, you'd see women setting up all-women islands and towns all over the place. But the only place where I've heard of this happening is in places where a high percentage of men are actively awful to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 09:35 PM
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They don't want to help guys they want to control them. That sounds very paranoid. Telling a man what to do makes a feminists imaginary penis get all hard. Feminists don't even want to imagine having a penis, let alone have one. You appear to think that a penis holds some kind of magical power. Also look at the feminist reaction to NoFap, they flipped out because men were cutting back on porn for their own gain. Links? I can't imagine. Unless they thought some of these men were priming themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 09:31 PM
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The vast majority of women respond positively to masculinity Yes, they do. > I can’t imagine a world in which feminists ever embrace and advise gender roles. Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 09:27 PM
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As long as the supposedly toxically masculine men are the ones being rewarded with sex and reproductive opportunties, you can expect they will continue existing and non-successful men will try to emulate the successful ones as best they can. That old bitter rp speech. It's not true. You focus on a minority of men and women and ignore all the other couples which make up the majority. And why do you rp'ers see sex as a "reward" for men? Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 09:25 PM
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I admit to hating the 'smash the patriarchy' thing too. I avoid the word patriarchy - except in PPD, because it's thrown around so much here. I think I hate it because it could be interpreted by men as "smash men" and that's not what is intended. No end of concrete actions are being undertaken to remove patriarchy. Look at how many women just moved into political leadership roles in the US. Patriarchy says women are children. The more women are independent and in leadership roles, the more patri…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 09:21 PM
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Yep. Self care all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 09:03 PM
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And yet women in 2018 are far more bitter and angry towards men, when they personally enjoy the greatest level of freedom and independence they've ever had. They're not. They're angry about the % of men who have been getting away with sexually harassing/assaulting women, especially if those men have been in a position of power over these women. They're sick of having to live in a world where women must put up with such things in order to hold down a job. I've met quite a number of women who come…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 09:01 PM
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You may not go back to an abuser but tons of women always have and tons always will. Yes they will. Doesn't mean that most women will, though. The divorce rate is testament to that. His statement was not bitter and definitely true. You just don’t like it because it takes women off a pedestal. It was bitter as. I love women being taken off the pedestal. Don't want to be there. But it is untrue that niceness & truthfulness are non factors in attracting women. If the initial attraction is there (lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 07:57 PM
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It was your claim that niceness and truthfulness are "non factors" that I was objecting to. They are definite factors for a large percentage of women. The first point of attraction is looks. The second is personality. Of course they are non factors for a small percentage of women. In fact, in almost any area in life the more inconsiderate you are to other people, the more you succeed. Yes and no. People are pretty mobile with employment these days - if they don't like the boss, they're far more …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 07:24 PM
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but apparently lots of women get beat up and lied to and go back for more. Low self-esteem. No way would I go back to such a guy. One strike and you're out. > So it's not like niceness and truthfulness are base line requirements to attract women, they're just non-factors. That's bitter. And untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 11:29 PM
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Yes, agreed. Both are stupid. I totally agree that a woman who uses "sex tokens" to try to get a man and is upset when he dumps her, shouldn't complain. Sex does not get you a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 11:26 PM
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Wait, that's just like now No, things are a lot healthier now. I don't think it's true at all that women distrust and despise men now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 11:19 PM
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There are a million examples of women trying to do something - art, business, study, science, writing, sculpture, medicine etc etc etc - where she was stopped at every turn because she is a woman. That has never happened to men in general. How would it be possible that women wouldn't mistrust and resent the sex that not only stopped them from doing what they want but also thought they were incapable of doing those things? Answer - it isn't possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 11:17 PM
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Young women's better options are young men. Unless she's going for money. But we don't have that 'pool boy' meme for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 11:13 PM
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Now... if a woman is young and makes the effort to meet and attract those better options. I say that she has a strong advantage over the older women. Ewwww are you saying young women should get with older men because you think those men are "better options"? Remember, young women don't want better options that come with saggy balls and wrinkles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 01:24 PM
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Sounds exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 01:15 PM
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This is why most traditional societies and religions have men as providers, leaders, etc. That's not why, Men just took over, that's what happened. The families were not stable. Women despised living with men's feet on their necks. Whatever a woman tried to do, there was a man ready to kick her down. Women distrusted and despised men in general. You can't call that a healthy society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 01:11 PM
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You don't understand attraction from a woman's point of view. The attraction to a good looking, nice body male is primal for women. If, on top of that, he's loving and caring and seems like he'll be a good father in the future, he's a keeper. A big no to women being able to do it all themselves and not needing a man. Cis women want to love and be loved by a man. Raising children and running a household is also very hard and men are very much needed. Also, men bring their masculinity to a relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 01:07 PM
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Like any kind of sitcom or TV show or movie or anything like that. Still so vague it's absolutely meaningless. The entire concept of women leaving their home life in other to "discover themselves" comes from the 1800s, not just from popular plays in the era (the equivalent of modern day television), but also from laws during that time period that basically left most of the parenting responsibilities on the man You have no proof of this. Not being a father is literally illegal. That right only ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:10 PM
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Correct, the effect is smaller in women when it comes to sex drive Yes because other hormones are also very important for women and sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:08 PM
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Yes, testosterone pumping in your system actually affect your behavior. It will have much more effect if you are male/feel as if you are male. My aunt had T for her low sex life. It did diddly squat and didn't change her in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 11:11 PM
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Absolutely. Just look at any popular blog or TV show that addresses the topic. ok?? Like what??? There's also a famous play from the 1800s where the mother leaves her husband and children to go "discover herself", likely one of the reasons that this idea is so ingrained into modern society (it's where the phrase actually comes from). A play? From the 1800s? Boy, you're digging deep and coming up empty handed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 11:08 PM
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The idea that you're entitled to your fairy tale romance and everything that comes with it is far from a modest and realistic ideal. Not exactly a fairytale romance, but a wonderful romance that lasts a lifetime, yes. Where it comes undone for women is when he doesn't stay romantic. Yep, yep, I know some men will complain that the "sex went out the window" but I think the romance will have gone first. He just doesn't realise it or doesn't think it's important anymore. In a way, male and female f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 08:42 PM
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