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Congratulations. I'm very proud of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 06:43 AM
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Right, but I post more on PPD than on TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 06:41 AM
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I find that the 'uninitiated' men come here and automatically start 'white-knighting' because this is how they've been taught by the media. Or maybe, and this might shatter your world, we actually think TRP is garbage. Is thinking that people should be decent to one another no matter what is in between their legs white-knighting? What doesn't constitute as white-knighting exactly? TRPers are logical robots. I've yet to see this logic. Also, you're missing a tl;dr.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 06:39 AM
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I post more on PPD than I do on TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 06:33 AM
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It's a private sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 06:20 AM
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Most users seem to not know the rules or report so you can't blame them The mods are supposed to make sure that the sub runs smoothly and does not break rediquette. Said post was left up for 4 hours. If the mods do not abide by the rules what makes you think the user base will? Compare this to the ridiculous shit ton of moderators that the blue pill needs just to keep the doxxing under the carpet speaks for itself don't you think? One person was supposedly "doxxed" (she wasn't, but for the sake …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 06:19 AM
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Or TRP mods could do their fucking jobs and immediately take posts down that reveal other user's private information instead of keeping it up for 4 hours. Frankly, I'm glad that screenshot was taken seeing as RP members were claiming how TBP doxxes people just the other day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:56 AM
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Lol, yeah, because TRP takes doxxing of non-RPers super seriously. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:42 AM
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An entire definition that used different categories in order to define said word. I give you a round of applause for your top notch rationalizations. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:21 AM
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defiance A silent treatment lasting around, eh let's say 36 hours, is not a sign of defiance? Keep trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:17 AM
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But there have been plenty of incidents. Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:15 AM
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Oh, ignoring your SO and giving her the silent treatment until she does what you want is not a temper tantrum? Hmmm...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:12 AM
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Really rubbish logic. You're allowed to believe what you want. This doesn't mean they're suddenly a monolith that absolves the tactic on their own end. Yeah, but when you blame TBP for doxxing, and then allow a member to do just that (this post was up for 4 hours), it's pretty fucking ironic and hypocritical. That thread was nuked very fast, IT WAS UP FOR 4 HOURS. because you're still de-facto providing a link to the doxxing Lol. Nah. I didn't link to said user's personal information. Nice try t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:05 AM
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If we said "become a catch" would that be better? Nah, you're still being a manipulative little child throwing a temper tantrum because he didn't get his way. You do know the main technique to get over LMR Yeah, I'm sure the concept started out with completely innocent intentions, but I stand by my statement. Ha, wow. I know, I think it's dumb too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:01 AM
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Go monk mode. Focus on yourself. Dread Game Manipulate your SO in order to see that you are a catch when you, in fact, are not. Get over Last Minute Resistance Getting into that grey area of rape that can get you into trouble with the law, but fuck that because getting your dick wet is more important than possibly going to jail and traumatizing your partner. Demonstrate value Peacocking minus the silly outfits. Demonstrate abundance Pretending you don't have oneitis when it's pretty clear you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 03:26 AM
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Alpha widow is perhaps one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of with cock carousel coming in second.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 12:19 AM
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If this discussion doesn't showcase how completely stupid their vocabulary and concepts are then I don't know what does.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 12:16 AM
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I'm over the age of 18 I'm automatically ugly, so they're not entirely wrong! You post wall hag you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 12:09 AM
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They're more likely to say I'm just lying Well, you are a manipulative feeeeeemale after all. Joking aside, their binary views don't allow for any wiggle room. So you are either A) lying B) washed up carousel riding slut C) your SO is hotter than you D) a cocktail of all of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 11:58 PM
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He also has to put, like, zero effort into getting it. Now I'm going to patiently wait for an RP member to chime in to say how you are an exception, or something along those lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 11:51 PM
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Eh, not really. I try to be as impartial as I possibly I can and try not to favor one gender over the other. When it comes to cheating, I pity both rather equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 11:49 PM
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My SO has a pretty high libido herself, so sex is pretty much on tap for me. LTRs are way better in the long run when it comes to these types of things than ONs. The concept of a pussy buffet just sounds mentally exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 11:42 PM
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Not to mention finding a high-drive LTR partner means way more sex than having one-off one night stands with one person a month That's the real "pussy buffet". Having a high libido partner guarantees a constant supply of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 11:07 PM
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Glad to hear it straight from the horses mouth. I had a few other blue pill members tell me that she was in no way doxxed but they also told me that they could not disclose any more information. Thank you for giving me the entire story.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 09:36 PM
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I disagree and would say that men and women flip flop quite a lot between feel a certain way and wanting to feel a certain way. For example, my SO. She will have sex if she feels a certain way or if she wants to feel a certain way. When she has those days where she just can't seem to stop crying, towards the end she will almost always make the first move. Sex helps her get past whatever is bugging her and puts her in a better mood. Afterwards, it's as if her breakdown never happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 09:18 PM
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Yep, because every man on the planet goes to strip clubs, visits prostitutes, and watches porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 06:48 PM
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Yeah. If it wasn't then men would be raping women left and right en masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 04:36 PM
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Of course they're not, but the drive to have sex with as many women as possible is a very strong drive in men. That's all fine and dandy, but said drive doesn't run people's lives. It's a drive that is easy to ignore. Not every good looking guy wants a fuck buffet. And that's why better looking men tend to hold off marriage Source? You're talking about outliers as if that matters. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the CDC stats show that the amount of men who have countless partners is incredibly small…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:19 AM
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Did you ever stop to think that humans are not completely driven by biology and that perhaps you are being solipsistic? Just because you want a fuck buffet doesn't mean that every other male human on the planet does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:07 AM
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why the fuck would he want a 'relationship' when he has a fuck buffet awaiting him. Did you ever stop and think that maybe, just maybe, not every good looking guy wants a fuck buffet?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:48 AM
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I know, I'm asking who was doxxed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 01:03 AM
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Not a woman but I have a few female friends who have had their fair share of hookups and they told me that their main targets were always the "prettiest" of the bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:37 PM
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Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:32 PM
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That sucks for them then, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 07:23 PM
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No you're shifting the fucking goalposts. Dread is shit for manipulative manchildren like yourself. What you linked to was taking responsibility over your body so you don't sit around like a fat slob for the rest of your life. That is not dread. Im not back pedaling, youre just being an intellectually dishonest asshole and misconstruing my entire argument. You done acting like a fucking dumbass baby terp?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 07:23 PM
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Dread game is common sense. What you linked to was not the original definition of dread. This 12 step thing is new as far as I'm aware. Dread game is manipulative since you purposely instill dread in your partner to get them to put out. "Step 2" is not dread.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 08:51 PM
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Now what? Not hurting anyone so moral. OK, now what? Don't know, not an RPer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 08:43 PM
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A man decides to go to the gym and get in better shape. He sheds fat and gains muscle. Moral or immoral? Stupid fucking question, but sure, I'll bite. Moral. It's not out of consideration for the feelings of delicate flowers It's more of fear of being rightfully ostracized. Call it cowardice if that makes you feel better. This isn't about feelings, this is about facts. Fact: RPers don't share their ideas because they are cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 08:16 PM
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And you differentiate these two with your highly calibrated emotions. Nah, I differentiate these two on whether I consider it moral or immoral. Common sense shit? You're not hurting anyone so moral. Manipulative childish shit? You're purposely hurting others so immoral. Think as you like, but behave like others do. Which is both considerate and cowardly at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 07:44 PM
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Could be that both of those things are true. Glad we're in agreement. This tells me that you see nothing wrong with TRP's practices, only their principles. I see nothing wrong with the common sense shit, not the manipulative childish shit. If you're trying to have a whole "gotcha" moment, you're failing. As for their principles, you are absolutely right. as long as he kept quiet about the red pill. As long as I didn't know he was a red piller, we'd be golden. Which is why part of me is glad that…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 07:24 PM
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Problem was that they explained some things and I couldn't find a better explanation. That made sense due to whatever bias you probably already had beforehand. Is "extremist" supposed to put me back on my heels or something? No, I'm just calling it like I see it. One thing that you'd find an overwhelming number of TRP readers share is a history of sexual failure, And there's the common denominator. You're telling me that, due to your sexual failure, you didn't have any preconceived notions about…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 07:03 PM
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TRP always plays the blame game. So much for accountability. It's pretty smart. There are people that profit off of TRP ideas and using a victim mentality to fit their narrative will only create a bigger following. There is nothing that humans love more like a scapegoat to all their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 05:31 PM
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My preconceived notions about women were not what TRP says. So you're telling me you weren't one of those "these ideas all resonated with me personally and I began to swallow the red pill because everything started to make sense" guys? People don't join extremist groups out of the blue, they have to share something in common with them first. Where have red pill ideas appeared before? Throughout history. You think the concept of women being mentally inferior and childlike is new? it's social ebol…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 05:25 PM
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TRP continues its organic growth. Like this is an indication of anything else other than "hey, these guys share my already preconceived notions of the opposite sex!" I theorize that the reason for that is that they bring something new to the table I theorize that their ideas are in no way new or novel and have just been repackaged to fit the era of a new type of jaded man. This is nothing more than a mild appeal to popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 06:49 AM
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To lift weights... To dress well... That women like confident, dominant men... That being attractive is more important to getting a relationship than being nice is... This is the most generic, common sense advice that is in no way exclusive to TRP. Hey, being a complete doormat is unnattractive to the opposite sex? You don't fucking say! Wow, what a novel idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 06:34 AM
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It doesn't make sense to me. It'd make a lot more sense if she was actually a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:52 PM
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There are some crazy ass rad fems out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:48 PM
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Nah, I just find it fishy just how much she hates the female sex considering she is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:47 PM
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You presume being natural to a woman's fantasy wouldn't get your dick wet Most people don't want to live out their sexual fantasies, especially like the one depicted in 50 shades. RP is a fantasy? Absolutely. So, you don't believe 100% of field reports? Pretty much. What's that like? Realz before feelz. Ms. Nobody wasn't nobody. Oh yes she was, thats part of why it sold so well. A virgin at like 22? What the fuck even is that? Not as uncommon as you think. You're looking in the wrong direction i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:45 PM
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It speaks to their nature No. It speaks to the nature of their fantasies. The thing is, most people don't want their fantasies to play out in the real world. And I am claiming it's RP nature they're swallowing. Yes, because RP, like 50 shades of grey, is a fantasy. but if you think this is something Disney, Hot-shot, young CEO falls head over heels for frumpy Ms. Nobody? Sounds like a Disney story to me. Just switch CEO to prince and frumpy nobody to indentured servant and BOOM, you have Cindere…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:16 PM
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I want to know if she is actually a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:07 PM
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So no, you don't have a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 08:45 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 05:42 PM
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Book and movie culture are now empirically backing the tenets of TRP with every ticket and book sale Here's something you're completely missing: it's fiction. people are watching because it frames a realistic narrative in how the characters behave with one another. People are watching it because it's fiction. It's fantasy, it's just another Cinderella story, but for adults. It sells because it's a fantasy. If the book was based on a true story, I'd doubt it have the sales it does now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 05:08 PM
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Explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:10 AM
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http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/026999300402772#/doi/abs/10.1080/026999300402772 http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/psp/53/2/397/ Consistent with other reported sex differences involving the IRI (eg, Davis, 1980), female respondents scored significantly higher on all three of the empathy scales. https://www.questia.com/library/psychology/personality-and-emotions/empathy Relevant stats: http://dpeaflcio.org/programs-publications/issue-fact-sheets/social-service-workers-an-occupational-ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:13 AM
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50 shades is fiction, actually, fan fiction. Its appeal is that it gives a positive sexual identity to the women who read it along with the fact that it's somewhat of a fairy tail. Plain Jane journalist (of all the professions they could have picked; it's so cliché) gets noticed by young hot-shot CEO? Yeah, I can see why that would produce a lot of revenue. It's a subpar Cinderella story with some very mild BDSM thrown in for good measure. I tried reading it because I wanted to see what was all …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 12:32 AM
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When it comes to empathy, studies show that women are equal or above in comparison to men. Im not the only one that has been stating this. If the vast majority of studies are on your side then prove it, you're the one who made the claim that women are unable to empathize with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 12:15 AM
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I just describe reality Which you have failed in doing seeing as you lack any actual scientific data. Reality is subjective, science is objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 11:42 PM
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He never is. In a discussion I had with him in this very thread he threw a red herring mid discussion and refused to continue debating his own topic. He's not here to CMV, he's here to try to "prove" how right his anecdotal experience is in comparison to actual scientific data.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 11:40 PM
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Well, since we're on this subject: I like trains.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:24 PM
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Says I can't use my brain Refuses to answer my simple question. It's been fun sweetheart.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:22 PM
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Oh no, not independent! It's not like daily mail at all! Nope! It's a completely valid source of scientific data! /s Try again. Here, I'll help you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:02 PM
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So cop-out, gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:50 PM
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Lol, learn how IQs work and what a standard deviation is, educate yourself. Your childishness is showing, kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:47 PM
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Right, and my question still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:17 PM
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For every woman with an iq of 120 there are twice as many men with an iq of 140. That's not how it works. Especially since only 5% of the population scores over 120. Are you going to continue with this red herring or are we going to get back on topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:17 PM
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I did read the post, which is why I am asking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:29 PM
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Cop out. It's a very simple question. Yes or no? I wear boxers, panties don't give my dick enough air to breathe, but thanks for the suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:25 PM
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More grey matter =/= smarter. 3-4 more iq points on average =/= smarter. Every time we have this conversation I continue to prove you wrong, do you really want to start this again? Also, this is a red herring and is beside the point. What do you base your opinion off of? A study or a an anecdote?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:23 PM
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You still haven't answered my question. Don't cop out this early.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:18 PM
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A job's a job. She voluntarily signed up for it, why should she be thanked for it? The same could be said about male vets. They voluntarily signed up to put their lives in danger, why should they be thanked for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:13 PM
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So you accept that men are, on average, smarter than women? Because that's what the vast majority of studies say That's actually not what they say. There isn't a single study out there (outside of TRP and MRA pseudoscience that is) that states such a claim. I mean a woman's ability to empathize with male sexual needs and desires. Do you have a study to base this off of or is it completely anecdotal?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:09 PM
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I would stop questioning studies when they are duplicated and the results seem to show the same thing, and said results pan out in the real world. especially empathy towards the opposite sex sexually. Explain what you mean by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:43 PM
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There are countless studies that show that women have equal or above empathizing abilities in comparison to men. Women also gravitate more towards nurturing jobs such as healthcare, teaching, and social work, which requires to be able to empathize often. The fact that you see women as incapable of empathizing with you and your problems might have to do more with confirmation bias rather than women being horrible altogether. Edit: lol at the butthurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:34 PM
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Those guys exude mystery and it has been my experience that women love mysterious guys, especially mysterious guys who also have some type of artistic talent. Hell, my sketchbook alone was the only pickup line I needed when I was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:12 PM
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You've been out-gayed! Suck it Westboro Baptist Church!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:00 PM
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You don't seem to know what satire is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:56 PM
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NOT THE CATS!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:55 PM
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Yeah, luckily the dog park has plenty of bags readily available for the owners to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:41 PM
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Blue pill is focused on being an individual free thinking obease transgender which does not fit into traditional gender norms nor traditional airplane seats. Look at that strawman go.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:40 PM
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Nah, I'm pretty comfortable with myself and this ends up giving me an edge with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:29 PM
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Do you think that there are no women who are racist, sexist, anti-theist, religious bigots, misogynists, misandrists, et cetera?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 03:33 PM
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That'll show that bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 03:05 PM
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I dread gamed my dog at the dog park by petting other dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:23 PM
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Yeah, that comment was just so fucking stupid that it confused me for a sec. I had no idea that sex with a woman was so super gay bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:04 PM
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I'm sorry, what now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:24 AM
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I don't see why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 03:21 AM
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They're applying for the safe office jobs, because danger, sweat, and labor is not what appeals to women. Do you think this is innate or taught? while the men go out and sweat their asses off. Something they decided to do while segregating women. Don't act like these dangerous jobs aren't a giant boys club. I suspect women are not asking for those jobs. If they did not want those jobs then my buddy wouldn't have to specify that he does not hire women. I suspect women have applied to work for him…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 03:14 AM
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Why are high-death-rate jobs like oil riggers, coal miners, electricians, and construction workers still dominated by men Because most of those places refuse to hire women, or, if they do, they give them the safest positions possible. One of my really good friends owns a Surveying Company and he flat out refuses to hire women to work the field and immediately gives them an office job instead because he thinks they will only get in the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:50 AM
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Do you not see my logic or do I need to clarify? I see your logic, the problem is that I see a pattern. It's not one user that constantly says awful shit, it's a few users plus ECs plus moderators.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:38 AM
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Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:47 AM
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As long as you don't believe that women are complete shit and that by virtue of having a dick you are a super special superior snowflake, then you're golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 10:26 PM
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It's aim is to familiarize oneself with the whole of the nature of the gender, instead of just all the "good stuff." If you know the whole nature, you are better prepared to deal with whatever might come from that. You will be better able to handle whatever their nature throws at you (since, half the time, they aren't doing it to you specifically, nor on purpose). That is a good thing. And that's great. It's important to understand that humans can be shit. The problem with terms such as AWALT is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 09:36 PM
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Do you believe there are no behaviors/instincts common to either gender? Absolutely. I don't think they are as innate as you guys want them to be but sure. That being said, you're generally not dating all women. You're dating one at a time. AWALT and AMALT are both terms used to generalize entire populations and generalizations are useless when it comes to individuals. So it's a lazy way to understand the opposite gender as well as a defence mechanism, because understanding that your partner is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 08:51 PM
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Okay. For newbies, they are told to read the sidebar material, from there they "take" the pill, and begin to form new opinions on women, society etc. Assuming that its general user base had read the sidebar, isn't it a strange coincidence that the hateful tone seems to be identical in almost every user and mod?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 07:29 PM
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Some of this stuff that you mentioned is in the RP sidebar, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 07:16 PM
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Source material? Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 06:45 PM
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AWALT is just a lazy man's way of dealing with the opposite sex while simultaneaously inflating his own ego. It's a defence mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 06:25 PM
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Most of these take from random users (or even mods) who don't represent what the movement actually says. If its mods or user base doesn't represent TRP's message, then who or what does?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 05:50 PM
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If anything, I've realized that most of TRP is comprised of common sense advice with a shit ton of bigotry and conspiracy theories piled on top. There have been a few moderate RP folk on here who are pleasant to read such as /u/BakerofPie (I hope i spelled that correctly) but all in all I've found that most RP members are just outraged carbon copies of one another. I think it's still pretty extreme, since most of its users spout the same shit and blindly buy into its dogma.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 05:34 PM
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I'm not a feminist. If it's such an issue for you, then turn yourself into someone that women actually want to fuck instead of whining about how important sex is, expecting it to be given to you for free. Illegal. People do illegal shit all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 09:31 PM
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Suicide girls, especially those with a lot of nature tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 09:07 PM
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I try to be a "live and let live, even though I think you're a moron" type person. Me telling my own daughter that she's an idiot for making said decision isn't going to do anything positive, it'll only make her resent me and push me further away. The only time I'd probably ever say anything is if she was a housewife and a serial killer. I just see a lot of feminists that make it out as if a woman that decides to do such things is simply being controlled by men I think the issue stems from, sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:23 PM
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TRP works because it turns men into a certain type of person that attracts these women. If you are shallow, narcissistic, and insecure, well you're just going to attract shallow, narcissistic and insecure people. AWALT is more All Women Who TRP Works On Are Like That. I've yet to meet this psycho machiavellian female that all RPers are convinced exist because they run into her everyday. If everywhere you go you smell shit, then you'd better check under your shoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:02 PM
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is that you come across as incredibly judgmental and hostile to the idea of getting married and having kids and having that be her be-all-end-all. it shames women for wanting to do things like submissive to their husbands, or be stay at home moms, housewives, etc. etc. I'm going to be completely honest with you because you seem like a genuine person: I'm going to start off by saying that I'm not a feminist, I'm just some asshole on the internet with ideas that overlap with feminism, but all in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 07:54 PM
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but rather about whether that suffering has a tangible, proven negative effect on society? People are always going to suffer. Some suffering is more important than others. Suffering that has a large impact on society is more important, imo, than the suffering of a very tiny minority. Say society decides to do free sex Saturdays for all the incels in the country. Say we do to women what men do to other men and force them to sign up for a selective service type of thing, where they are pretty much…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 07:36 PM
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Do people really not realized how important regular sex is to be a healthy male? Fuck a prostitute. Regular sex is important to everybody, but you won't die without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 07:23 PM
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not only do you feel justified in ignoring points because the other guy is a basement-dwelling neckbeard, you don't even have any way of knowing whether he really is or not. Where did I ignore your points? What's your beef? Keep at it though. Lol, no counter argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 03:59 AM
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At least you're honest about the nature of your ad hominem arguments You don't seem to know what ad hom is. I'm talking about the fact that you get labeled a jerk/insensitive, at best, if you tell a girl to "just get over it" when she's whining about something. I've never dealt with a situation like this so I can't relate. But of course, when males have problems they want to complain about, the default response is that they need to, y'know, "man up." Yeah, by other men. Which is why I have the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 03:31 AM
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Whenever incels exist, war parties of angry young men form and you get things like ISIS, Fortunately we brave and stalwart heroes of TRP are helping to convert the frustrated rage of the incel into discipline and hard work, one beta at a time. Your made up world sounds very interesting. What have you done for lesser men lately? Lol, I don't empathize with someone who can call himself an "incel" and still take himself seriously. Other than blame the patriarchy for everything and laugh with your B…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 02:28 AM
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Down to what? Hookers and fat chicks? Beggars can't be choosers. the assumption is that if you're a virgin, you must be a basement-dwelling loser with no sense of personal hygiene. It's an assumption I've yet to see anyone prove otherwise, so it still stands. Because that's what we tell women when they have problems with how they're treated by men. What are you even talking about here? "Have a better personality" is so vague If you are a complete shit to be around and you can't seem to get laid,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 02:24 AM
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Government subsidized fleshlights for all the incels!!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 06:56 PM
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And you have choices: fleshlight, fuck eachother, or actually put the work in to become someone women actually want to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 06:26 PM
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So does not having a sexual partner/life partner. It doesn't have a massive impact like poverty does. Third world countries are the way they are not because they are overrun with incels. They also aren't the ones walking into yoga studios with M16's or running people over with their BMW, whilst writing manifestos. Those men had psychological problems and needed a scapegoat for their failures in life. Their problem wasn't that they weren't getting laid, their problem was that they were crazy. We …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 06:17 PM
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Well, beggars can't be choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 06:03 PM
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Except that not having enough cash to buy food, or put a roof over your head, has actual societal effects. Just look at all the third world countries and their insane poverty rates if you don't believe me. Not getting laid is a personal problem that could easily be solved if incels: 1) lower their standards. 2) actually take care of themselves 3) drop the "woe is me" crap 4) work on their personality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 05:50 PM
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Excellent, so whats the problem again?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 05:46 PM
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Are you comparing not having enough money for food with whining about not getting your dick wet?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 05:23 PM
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Just invest in a nice fleshlight or fuck eachother. Boom, problem solved. Incels aren't a societal problem and as such, society is not responsible for accommodating them. They are incel by their own accord.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 05:18 PM
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Is it safe to say that the RP lifestyle is not for the two of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:58 AM
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My phone is my biggest handicap.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:45 AM
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How are you liking her somewhat RPWness?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:40 AM
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Lol so you're just the equivalent of the crazy old guy screaming in the street "The End is Nigh!" and as such, should have her claims immediately dismissed. Gotcha. As always, beautiful performance HHL.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:35 AM
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Again, do you have actual evidence? Reality is subjective and seeing as your bias is huge, your reality claim holds no water. I'm sure you have reputable sources to back up your claim, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:25 AM
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And I'm sure you have evidence for this evil feminist conspiracy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:20 AM
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So, how can a woman be sure that the man she is going to marry isn't going to leave her during tough times or when she is not at her so called 'prime' She can't. Even if she truly believes deep down in her heart that the man she married won't leave her if she becomes ill, life will throw her a curve ball. It is in situations like this where I think it is completely fair to take everything from your partner in a divorce: house, money, etc. Luckily, situations like these are not the norm and not e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:03 AM
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BP here. I'd teach her how to be self sufficient and independent. I'd teach her to surround herself with trustworthy people and that all that glitters is not necessarily gold. I'd teach her to treat those the way she wants to be treated. I'd teach her to stand up for herself and her beliefs. I'd teach her that knowledge is incredibly valuable and to strive for a higher education as well as whatever dreams she may have. I'd teach her to pick partners carefully. I'd teach her that sex is so much b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 04:31 AM
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The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men. Sounds like a support group to me. Besides, haven't some ECs or Mods claimed that TRP is a safe space for men to vent?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 11:16 PM
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You just generalise a lot. Surely, being an RP member, you see the irony in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 05:29 PM
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I don't understand. More kids=better in-pair cohesion?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 05:06 PM
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I don't see her even implying that men are shit heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:24 AM
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Telling them that their work was super important, more important than gathering, was an incentive to get the to go hunt. We're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:32 PM
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women had to convince men to hunt so everyone wouldn't starve? Yes because that's exactly what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:20 PM
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Lol, you going to continue with this red herring or are you going to drop the subject with a little bit of dignity?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 10:26 PM
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Humans aren't chimps. Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 09:45 PM
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No telling the hunters that they are so super special is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 09:41 PM
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Again, humans are ommivores. Gatherers could feed the tribe easily, hunters had to travel longer distances in order to find food. Since humans need protein to survive and the men wouldn't do it on their own, a social incentive was put in place so that the tribe wouldn't suffer malnutrition. Why are you being so dense? It's not that it was naturally more important, it's that it had to be considered important in order for the hunters to work. Again you're jumping the gun and miscontruing what I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 09:13 PM
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Because humans are ommivores. Gathering did not require to go long distances and leave the tribe for days.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 07:32 PM
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It was an incentive to hunt as in "please go hunt, you're so super special." I just explained this to you, reread my previous comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 07:23 PM
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No, how did you come to this ridiculous conclusion? The idea that men's work is more important is strictly social. Don't jump the "biology" gun. Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 07:14 PM
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Do you not think evolution wouldn't have selected for traits that were optimized in this environment? No, because this concept is strictly social. This idea that men's work was to be considered more important as an incentive to eat did not spring from biology. There could have been other incentives put into place such as if they don't go hunt then they will be killed by the rest of the tribe, or they will be exiled. If anything evolution selected traits that optimize group cooperation. The reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 07:13 PM
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The Iliad and the Odyssey came from Greece where men had greater status than women. Across cultures men had greater status, more power than women, and were generally seen as superior. We all mostly came from hunter gatherers where hunting was considered more important than gathering as an incentive for the hunters (who were mostly men) to go to work. It is possible that from this idea stemmed the concept that masculine qualities are to be respected more than feminine qualities (hence the stories…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 06:42 PM
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I believe socialization can re-direct some biological values, but not the strongest ones. I completely disagree but fair enough. My source is every single culture to have ever existed since the dawn of culture. That's not a very good source especially since you are not taking into account nuance. Humans (across the globe) started out as mostly hunter gatherers where men were mostly hunters and women were mostly gatherers. Since hunting was sporadic and unreliable, it was seen as more important t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 06:21 PM
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Do you really think that socialization has very little impact on humans across cultures? Also, source?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 05:54 PM
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Do you think it's biologically ingrained?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 05:41 PM
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From other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 05:27 PM
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Exactly. Heroes are good, heroes are brave and honorable, and heroes are men. Now, since these stories are passed down from generation to generation is it so hard to believe that this is one way that people are taught to respect masculine qualities rather than feminine qualities? Most people want to be Odysseus, not Penelope.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 05:14 PM
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Where did she say men are shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 05:02 PM
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Let me ask you a question: who is the hero in every epic tale? A man or a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 04:55 AM
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Typo? No. Sex is penis or vagina, gender is man or woman or somewhere in between. You either have chicks with dicks or you don't. Except that they are mentally women. This issue isn't as simple as you want it to be. And you tried dodging I wasn't dodging anything. I said men and women use different parts of their brain to solve problems. I was hoping you would put two and two together. then just what are those men/women differences you been talking about. You're purposely being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 02:55 AM
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Yeah, there isn't ever really a winner. That's life for you, I guess. Pretty much. or forcing men to take equal paternity leave to a woman's maternity leave, If it was paid for, I think people would go for it without having to force anyone. It just kind of sucks that men who really want to be fathers can't even be there when their kid stands up for the first time because he's slaving away for some corporate asshole. I can't openly debate this stuff in public without being marked a misogynist who…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 02:03 AM
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I think that this point is just a logical progression, but again I'm least likely to see flaws in my own argument. There's also another side to this coin. Men don't have to take time off like women do, but they end up losing valuable time with their children when they are their most vulnerable. Yes they climb the ladder of success to provide for their families but get screwed over when they want to bond with their kids. It's a double edged sword really.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 01:43 AM
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Exactly. It's not like one day you just woke up and said "hey, I want to be a woman today." No, you knew all along that you were one despite of what those around you would tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 01:40 AM
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How would you distinguish gender and sex? Gender and sex are sort of tied together, but gender deals more with socialization and learning behaviors whereas sex deals strictly with biology. Well you should see this as a problem since it contradicts your earlier statement If mentally they are a man then they should be able to identify with one no problem. I was really referring to sex when I stated that rather than gender but nowadays one can undergo surgery to get the bits that they should have b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 01:37 AM
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So what about the trans-person claim; Gender is a fluid concept, so if a person is mentally a man but has a woman's body I don't see what the problem is if they want to identify as a man. Slightly: as in essentially the same or slightly: as in enough that it would lead to behavioural differences. Slightly as in they use different parts of their brain to solve problems and come to similar conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 12:52 AM
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I wasn't trying to make a straw man argument, I was just curious as to where it came from. Just out of interest, what rebuttals do you have to the last 3? It's anecdotal so you can reject it if you want, but some of the most hard working people I know have been women. Men don't get pregnant so it's understandable that we won't have to take a leave of absence to give birth, but this could easily be fixed with paid parental leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 12:48 AM
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I agree with all of these except the last three. Why is it that every time equality is brought up this "men and women must be identical then" strawman is put in place? Who actually thinks men and women are exactly the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 11:43 PM
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Men have penises women have vaginas. Brain chemistry is slightly different. You know, basic shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 11:14 PM
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You just claimed most men are shit heads who don't want their kids. Where did he/she claim that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:18 PM
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You can do all that and still get what you want. It's not about what you want when it comes to making a marriage work. Almost every decision you make, you have to take your partner in consideration especially when you have a baby. A healthy marriage relies on teamwork and when your wife is so stressed that she is contemplating suicide, pulling the Alpha Game crap will only make it worse. The you is replaced by an us. A selfish partner in a marriage leads to problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:09 PM
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Still have nothing of value to say. Next time, don't come in guns blazing "LOL YOU BLOOPS DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE" if you have nothing to show for it. Continue to cop-out though, it's very entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 08:03 PM
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are created by cis teenagers to seem unique, and they wind up delegitimizing the identities of actual trans and non binary people. I agree. I think a lot of people hop on the bandwagon of groups that haven't necessarily reached the mainstream in order to seem cool or unique. It's pretty sad because I've known people like that are actually Transgender have started to undergo the change process and then I've known people who use it as a label to feel like they are a part of something which just en…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 08:01 PM
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What a cop-out. I'll take this as a no, you don't have anything of value to say, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:43 PM
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Please enlighten me since you seem to believe that you have all the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:38 PM
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Except apples and oranges are different fruits. Men and women aren't different species, they are both human but display slight differences due to sexual dimorphism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:31 PM
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"Squirrel people rights!" In all seriousness, gender is a pretty fluid concept so people should identify with whichever one they feel most comfortable with. But when it comes to the most basic shit, men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:28 PM
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No, men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 06:42 PM
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What's the most likely explanation for my personal anecdotal situation? The way we percieve the world as individuals is highly subjective, so your anecdote all comes down to bias. You bought into the TRP narrative and since it has worked for you then it must work for everybody else. Sadly, that's not how the world works; what works for one person may not work for another. TRP is one of many ways to go about relationships with the opposite sex and seeing as most people are non-RP, I'd say your fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 06:38 PM
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Pretty much this. Thinking that RPers are the only ones who can have successful relationships with the opposite sex is pretty naive. All my SOs and FWBs were aquired without TRP tactics and I'm a pretty happy guy. Then again, I don't need sex in order to live a rather happy existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 05:31 PM
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I'm sure you blackout fairly quickly. As for burning alive, what kills you is suffocating on your own flesh, not the burning itself, though I'm sure shock kicks sooner rather than later.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 03:19 PM
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You gonna start screaming Stockton now little boy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 11:24 PM
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You're so insecure that I'm actually starting to feel bad for you. The fact that you have to declare that you are a "real man" just shows just how much of a whipped beta you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 11:07 PM
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No, but your fear does excite me. Neckbeards aren't really scary, sorry to break it to you. Being a mangina and training >10 years in MMA don't go hand-in-hand. Nah, see I do MMA to release tension, not because I am so insecure in my masculinity that I want to get into a macho spitting contest with every man that calls me out on my shit. Unlike you of course. Your balls must be very small my man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 10:55 PM
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Nope, just one. Aww, your parents must be having a tough time :/. Maybe you'll get another one next Christmas. You worried a 12 year old will kick your ass in Judo and make quick work of your bogus "over 10 years in MMA" claim? ;) Are you so worked up about how emasculated you are that you actually want to fight me? Lmao, I'm so flattered. You shouldn't make claims of your "MMA experience" if you're scared, homie. Why would I get into a physical altercation with some reddit loser when I can just…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 10:37 PM
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you're just in horrible pain for about 30 seconds as somebody is sawing your head off. Nah, you black out before that. You wouldn't know about pain so I suggest you leave it up to the grownups I know you like to pretend you're a grownup, but scraping your knee because you fell off your scooter isn't real pain kid. You can think anything you want, it won't change the validity of my statement. Okay, kid, I'm sure you have an extensive collection of toy BMWs. What actual arts have you practiced? Ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 10:14 PM
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you're just so incredibly emasculated Oh no, he dropped the "e" word, what am I to do?/s Lol, you're such a sad little try-hard. Have you even seen a beheading? Yes, it doesn't take long to die when your head is getting cut off. I live on my own, earn a decent salary, am investing in multiple investment properties and own a BMW. Anything is possible on the internet kid. If you're so successful, what are you doing getting so bent out of shape over an Internet argument? Methinks you're full of shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 09:36 PM
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Do you have any new material? You're just really dense so maybe if I repeat myself you'll understand that you are wrong. Can't make a horse drink and all that jazz. Get murdered brutally with no chance of survival or having a chance to survive? Be killed in a rather painless and instant way or be tortured for who knows how long? Hmmm, the former sounds better to me. Hit a little too close to home? Nah, I just think it's funny that some kid who still lives with his parents is trying (failing) to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 09:00 PM
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Leaps in logic, correlation means causation, coming to hasty conclusions when providing scientific data, not reading their own sources simply because the title agrees with them, anecdata is more reliable than science, endless hamstering when they are wrong, intellectual dishonesty, No True Terper.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 06:54 PM
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Because having a good career doesn't factor in to women sleeping with you It's not important to your SMV in comparison to looks. Protip: The only people ISIS are beheading are men. Protip: ISIS is also turning Syrian and Iraqi women into sex slaves. Let's not play the opression Olympics ok? As long as they're hot (unlike your gf) Uh oh, 12 year old spotted. This actually explains quite a lot. Slow your roll, little guy. The fat chicks you're trying to bang are over there. "But moooooooooooom!"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 06:01 PM
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Real salty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 09:00 PM
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Not every black man in the world is going to freak out if you call him a "nigger," but African American men probably will. You need to understand the history of the term. Seeing as the US has an extensive history of black slavery, and "nigger" being such a popular term amongst slave owners, it's not too hard to comprehend why it is so insulting. Like I can say, "I would never call you a whore, but I have proven with this illustrated chart that you definitely are one." Terms like "whore" and "slu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 08:14 PM
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Frankly, it's a little unnerving to have this kind of power. The power to what? Insult people? Everyone has that power. I just don't understand why you're surprised. If you use a group specific slur to insult someone who belongs to said group (i.e slut, whore, fag, insert derogatory racist terms here, etc.) guess what? They are going to be offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 07:36 PM
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So has autism. The more you know
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 06:55 PM
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"These bloopers are mean 2 me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 06:48 PM
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SMV is valuable when settling down. Duh, you want to be actually physically attracted to whoever you're marrying, which is why looks are important. you're assuming that women do not have sex with men they plan on settling down with. I'm not assuming anything, I'm just saying you can't really fuck money and SMV is all about fuckability. when they're being oppressed by ISIS rather than fight their oppression, right? Yeah, that's actual opression, not this first world nonsense. It can also buy you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 03:36 PM
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Congrats on providing zero context.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 03:29 PM
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Regardless, a man's income is extremely important to the average woman. Yes, to settle down. Not SMV. The best bet of avoiding getting divorce raped is exposing feminism's anti-male legislature and help fight laws that punish male sexuality. Or adapting to how the world actually works. Most of the rich men I know are having lots of fun with much younger women. Yes, I already said money can buy you all types of escorts and gold diggers. If you let your biological clock run out, you can forget att…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 05:58 AM
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Yes, gold diggers, which happen to be a minority and if you're scared of getting divorce raped then this type of woman is not your best bet. Going after young women as a 45 year old man is a pipe dream at best and delusional at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 05:17 AM
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Yes, they are called escorts. Money can buy you pretty much anything in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 05:02 AM
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I'm not implying, I'm informing you: looks will get you laid a lot quicker than cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 04:37 AM
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what does money have to do with fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 01:33 AM
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We're talking about SMV here right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 01:26 AM
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You think men's looks don't fade?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 12:48 AM
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I picture them to be massive try-hards. Lol at the butthurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 07:54 PM
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Lol okay, whatever makes you feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 04:46 PM
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which in turn is less of a problem for the man than it would be for a woman. From your source: The older a man is, the longer it will take him to get his partner pregnant. The chance of conception taking more than a year is: about eight per cent when the man is under 25 about 15 per cent when the man is over 35 An age gap can make a difference, too . If a woman's partner is at least five years older than her, she has less chance of conceiving within a year than if her partner is the same age. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 08:06 PM
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Which is entirely possible It's an exception. Just because it's hip within BP circles to operate under the far greater delusion that male and female fertility suffer a similar decline with age doesn't automatically make it true. Strawman. I never said they suffered similar decline. I said sperm goes to shit with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 07:18 PM
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I'm a man, but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:59 PM
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/u/YourLocalNeckbeard, your services are always appreciated. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:47 PM
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I met a guy who had serious hang ups about his ex and was a total momma's boy. This dude would insert himself in every conversation, act tough constantly, and was an overall try-hard. He'd always talk shit about his ex but would go running back to her the second she snapped her fingers. It was pretty comical but I wouldn't necessarily call him RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:46 PM
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Yeah. A lot of guys seem to have this delusion that they'll hit their "peak" around 40, settle down with some 20 year old, and have completely healthy babies with her. Our sperm quality takes a hit around 35 and although most will produce sperm well into their death bed, the quality of said sperm will be completely dubious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:39 PM
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I find that younger girls generally have more pleasant personalities and are more fun to be around. That's great, different strokes for different folks. I find them generally insufferable and I'm at a point in my life where I don't want insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 04:58 PM
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holy shit my sides xD
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 01:17 AM
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25, male, 14
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 11:44 PM
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Would you still swallow that pill ? Uh no. I've done pretty well for myself romantically without TRP and I'm not about to throw all that out the window by adopting a counterproductive mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 09:35 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 07:35 PM
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but being a grown man who only cares about video games is childish. Eh, there are actually people who play video games for a living. Just go on Twitch. There's a streamer there that makes about 6 figures a year and that's not counting donations from his followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 07:19 PM
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As for how did I know to proceed(the part about my "instincts told me yes" in OP); she liked me. We had just had fun. She was already flirting with me. We had both been being suggestive and she had been being very receptive of that. She was smiling while she said it. She said it teasingly... coyly... controllingly, right at the moment where there should've been a kiss. Why didn't you just say this from the get go? I mean, when you put these three sentences together: I even pushed past LMRs in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 07:01 PM
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I even pushed past LMRs in a way even RP might find abhorrent; I pushed past straight no's rather than tacit acceptance or freezeout. Because in my instincts, I perceived a "yes". I'm more careful and thoughtful about doing that now, but jesus christ, I had the best experiences with women in my life because of being daring like this. Whoa whoa whoa. You fucking what mate? You can't just blow past this without any further information. The way I can only interpret this is that you were upset that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 06:33 PM
1

Whatever you say kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 04:28 AM
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Considering multiple different interpretations is not jumping the gun. The only interpretation you allowed was: this is sexist because I say so. Reread your comments. Believe it or not, I did not already have it in my head that the comment was sexist. Your comments and hasty conclusions say otherwise. Fucking hell you even said "You proved me right" meaning you thought it was sexist from the get go. I'm not going to further explain myself because I see that it is falling on deaf ears Fine by me.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 04:27 AM
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Untrue, and an insult. It's not an insult, it's a factual statement. The truth hurts. The difference is that there is history and some science that backs up TRP. I'm sorry, organized religions don't have any history? There aren't followers that try to backup their nonsense with "science"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 11:22 PM
2

Clapped? Lol, don't play dumb. You're a 1 day old account who comes here to insult others the same way /u/Klapped alts did. stating the obvious and missing the point completely shows how fucking dumb you are. Lmao, I wonder how long it'll take for you to get banned this time. Edit: Aaaaaaand you deleted your comments again. Record time. You make it too easy kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 11:19 PM
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I ignored that You ignored it because it was convenient for you too because it made you look bad. Now you're hamstering away how you weren't putting words in said user's mouth even though that by definition you were. I'll give you props for being straightforward about your intellectual dishonesty though. This 'angle' popped up in my head, and I was suspicious Because of your bias. This isn't the first time you've jumped the gun. I wanted to know if I was right to think of her comment as possibly…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 11:17 PM
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Him and RP4L are on the same boat of delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 10:43 PM
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The only real proof we have would be the scientific studies and graduate theses, Which TRP tends to lack entirely. The point is, if multiple field reports point towards a general trend, I take those field report seriously. Right, and if an entire book says that there is a man in the sky that looks after all of us, then it should be taken seriously because, hey, it's a trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 10:40 PM
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posting record does not mean I'm putting words in a person's mouth. I just showed you that you were, in fact, putting words into a user's mouth in this very thread. Funny how you conveniently ignored that in your reply. Your intellectual dishonesty is showing. I wanted to know if I was right to be suspicious of her statement. So again, you purposely read too much into her statement due to your bias and personal hang-ups. but I find it hard to believe, simply based on the comments of the BPers in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 10:38 PM
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20 field reports is about equal to the weight of reputable news article to me. Are you fucking kidding me? So is the bible proof that there really is a man in the sky that watches over us?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 10:27 PM
3

Out of all your one liners, this one takes the cake. Ugh my sides xD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 10:24 PM
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Show me. K: I personally don't think there's anything wrong with it but I get why people would say there's not as much marriage material out there. Right. Men aren't marriage material, of course, because of what you stated above, but women are pretty little angels, and we should be committing to them immediately. I use boldface It's not the formatting, it's your entire tone and your posting record on this sub. I was however fishing for a response So you were purposely reading too much into it an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 10:23 PM
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Their ideology is a self-fulfilling prophecy, so it's to be expected. If you smell shit everywhere you go then you should check your own shoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 10:10 PM
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Make it happen, /u/some_pill, I'm counting on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 10:05 PM
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No, that's all of you doing it to me, not me to you. If more than one person has pointed out to you that you do, in fact, put words into other people's mouths then maybe it'd be a good idea to take a step back and introspect. In this very thread you have done just that. I'm not flipping out. Really? Because you seem pretty angry. I offered some suggestions, and wanted to see what her reaction would be. Don't act like you were just innocently asking questions. You were being deliberately hostile …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 10:04 PM
1

I'd definitely consider myself an "alpha streaks" type. Do what you gotta do to make things work better. When I was younger I definitely had a "total alpha" mentality which made me insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 09:51 PM
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And I have very good memory as well and you have a nasty habit of taking things out of context, putting words in other people's mouths, and flipping out over comments directed towards men in general while subscribing to an ideology that considers women to be mentally children. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 09:40 PM
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Yeah, I actually just realized that and edited my comment lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 09:32 PM
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You're subscribed to a sub that constantly refers to women as "gold digging whores", I think you can handle someone on the internet saying "men want to be boys". The old saying goes: "Don't dish it if you can't take it" Edit: didn't realize that you are messaged every time your name is mentioned in a comment. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 09:28 PM
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Oh shit, you again? Aren't you tired of making alts, Klapped? How many times do you plan on getting banned from here? I mean, this must be what, your third time? Protip: when it comes to relationships, humans seek out similarities in one another. Tis how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 09:27 PM
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Because you're not dating them for their stellar personality. I personally am. Which is why a steer clear of immaturity. It's not like a 27 year old women has a stunningly better personality than a 23 You'd be surprised. but they probably won't be in as good shape. So? Looks fade. I want a partner not a shallow teeny bopper.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 09:11 PM
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i find most women south of 27 to be insufferably immature. Yeah, I don't understand the men who go for women 23 and under. How do they deal with the mind numbing immaturity?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 08:59 PM
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I think you're reading way too much into that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 08:53 PM
1

RPers generally think that they are super smart special snowflakes with advanced degrees in BroSTEM and Evo Psych (pseudoscience) and as such think they have any authority speaking on subjects such as how hunter-gatherers lived thousands of years ago when in reality they all suffer from a huge historian's fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 08:17 PM
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No, see if she only has sex with him, with no strings attached, then she's golden. If she has sex with anybody else then she's a slut who he will rag on because he'll now have to constantly obsess over all the icky penises she's had inside of her in a very homoerotic fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 07:52 PM
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Women do it too Agreed. Humans will go to extreme lengths in order to garner some type of admiration.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 07:40 PM
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My guess is your male friends are trying to impress other men. Listen, we do a lot of dumb shit to impress one another. And I mean a lot. From sports to women to materialistic things like cars, we are constantly trying to one-up each other. I can't tell you how many times I've turned into this complete dictator of an asshole when a competition is involved. Reminds me of those weird Hentai porn cartoons where this tiny woman is being fucked by a giant creature man. Ah this takes me back to my wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 07:33 PM
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I agree with this. I have a good amount of female friends and this is something I've heard from them often. Now switch to my male friends and almost all of them think that being John Cena sized is attractive. When I hit the gym, I strive for lean, while my buddies strap a ridiculous amount of weight to their legs while doing pull ups. I've never heard a woman say, "hey nice biceps" or "your quads look great today." What I have heard women say is "your shoulders/face/chest/butt are so hot." Defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 07:10 PM
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We're a long ways away from that though. Besides, disease or extreme climate changes will probably do a better job at wiping us out than machines. Or who knows, maybe we'll just blow each other up in a nuclear holocaust.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 12:48 AM
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High five! Although I'm more for the extinction of humanity rather than every other lifeform.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 12:37 AM
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Par for the course of the general MGTOW crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 12:36 AM
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I, for one, welcome this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 11:05 PM
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Second-guessing a more or less instinctual reaction because it was conforming to traditional gender roles? Where did I second guess myself? And you actually enabling that mindset? What a complete strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 10:04 PM
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Nevertheless: you felt the need to explain yourself because your SO was pissed that you pulled her out of harm's way And this is a crime because...?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 08:48 PM
-1

Wow, this is the biggest strawman I've ever seen any RPer construct. That hamster must be spinning like crazy. What are you even talking about? It's like you didn't even read anything I said. Consent? What the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 08:30 PM
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There's a difference between explaining and justifying. I never justified anything. You're reaching here. Now my question for you is: what's your problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 07:13 PM
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Well, if you have to justify Where did I justify anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 07:02 PM
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I took a jab at you personally and nothing else. Reported. though I have to admit that you feeling compelled to apologize for displays of masculine behavior, Where did I apologize? Not once did I say sorry, I just explained to her that this whole "self-sacrifice" nonsense isn't as noble as most people think and that a good part of it comes from selfish impulses. Get off your high horse, okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 06:46 PM
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Beats me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 05:31 PM
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Ad hom. Cute. This is why I don't take most of you seriously. Why don't you go back to your circle jerk that is TRP is since you can't handle adult conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 05:31 PM
0

Wouldn't you say that female sexuality is more fluid than male sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 05:06 AM
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Ah yes, those 5 negligible points that have no effect on overall intelligence and depend entirely on what test you are taking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 02:58 AM
-1

Ok, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 01:04 AM
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The title of this post is: "Women built cvilization. Thoughts?" Don't try to take the moral high ground and pretend that all blue pillers that come here are here on good faith. Which is why I said most. There are plenty of trolls on both sides but from what I've seen, TRP posts that are not backed up by anything other than anecdotes are generally argued in good faith by most BPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 12:42 AM
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Way to miss the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 12:37 AM
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So again, why should we have taken anything the OP said seriously when they want to make broad claims with not even a source of reference? Because TRP does this constantly and yet most argue it in good faith. This is a thought experiment, not definitive conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 12:21 AM
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Huh what? What does lesbianism have to do with civilization or the lack thereof? Wouldn't you say that female sexuality is more fluid than male sexuality? And seeing as we are animals that use sex for purposes outside of procreating, it is quite plausible that women, much like the bonobos, used sex to form stronger bonds with the other females of the tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:56 PM
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She should have tagged it as discussion instead seeing as providing sufficient sources for this topic is near to impossible because, well, no one really knows how hunter-gatherers lived.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:50 PM
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You're putting words in my mouth. What I'm asking you to source is how women don't have any logical abilities which is what you claimed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:38 PM
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Here you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:36 PM
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True. I find this topic pretty interesting and from my knowledge of ancient hunter-gatherer tribes, it is quite possible that this is how things used to be. My understanding is that since hunting was not as reliable as gathering, hunters were given more praise for the food they brought home as an incentive to keep them motivated. Since most hunters were men, it is quite possible that this idea fueled the patriarchal societies that emerged during the agricultural revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:19 PM
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If she was a post-op MtF then maybe. I'm pretty open to the idea and there are some people that transition incredibly well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 08:47 PM
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However my problem is with the folks (usually in their early 20's) who invent new words or new definitions for existing words. Yeah, it's called speaking in the vernacular. Humans have done this to language for thousands and thousands of years. Words are created or adjusted accordingly to fit the era or region. TRP is 100% guilty of this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 07:44 PM
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Self sacrifice to save their spouse. I'm going to go ahead an expand a little on this because this trope has been over exaggerated quite a bit. Let me tell you a story: A few weeks ago my SO and I were walking to my car in the parking lot of my apartment complex. Now, my SO is the type of person to get lost in thought pretty easily. She's constantly thinking about countless things all at once, so it's common for her to space out. In her dazed state she didn't notice that she was about to walk be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 06:40 PM
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Almost ALL of my ons lays come from when I was in a touring band. Good for you. Hasn't been my experience so I don't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 03:14 PM
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So no, you don't have any proof that women lack logical capabilities. Thanks for proving that your ideas and opinions should be completely disregarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 03:12 PM
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but it's definitely large enough to be taken seriously by 93k people (and growing). Just because something is popular, doesn't make it true. If anything, it proves that there are a good chunk of men that have identical thought processes and biases when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex. It doesn't make the ideology itself valid enough to be considered the "truth."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 05:28 AM
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And even then you still have to pay. Football players, execs, whatever, all have to pay. Have you ever seen how big their tabs at clubs tend to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 07:50 PM
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Being in the VIP section doesn't necessarily mean you spent money to get there. In order to get into the VIP section, you have to pay money to get there unless you know the club owner. Clubs are businesses that need to make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 07:04 PM
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That's money, not status. And as it turns out, VIP sections are normally full of good looking people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:39 PM
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It's been my experience that women care way more about looks than about status when it comes to hooking up. If it's a fling, status doesnt really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:53 PM
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Not for ONS. Looks matter mote than status. You can't fuck status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:51 PM
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Status Doesn't really matter in ONS. Physical being/penis size Physical attractiveness should be number one. You could be a complete mooch, but if you're a good looking guy then chances are you'll get laid. As for penis size, if you don't have a baby dick then you'll be fine. Average erect penis size in the US is what, about 5-6 inches? Even if your package is pretty small, you still have your hands and mouth. It's all about making the experience worthwhile. If you can get her off, you're set.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:50 AM
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There are no "exceptions" in a majority. Let's see if you understand this in a more straightforward manner: Geniuses have always been exceptions. Also, education has nothing to do with whether or not you are a genius. Then explain why educated women outscore educated men in the Raven's Progressive Matrices. Neuroplasticity. Look it up. Are you still in high school? Maybe you should stop talking about things you know nothing about before you start throwing the ad hom. Makes you look pretty stupid…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 06:55 PM
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Yea, that's why the vast majority of geniuses are men. Which have always been exceptions, not to mention that historically men were awarded with more education than women. That's why men are faster That falls into the physically stronger category. That's why men or more logical. There isn't enough scientific evidence to support this nonsense. That's why men have invented everything of any importance ever. That's historically incorrect. Because their capabilities end at physical strength Which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 05:58 PM
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we're talking about the more capable sex. Which is a moral assertion all on its own. More capable of what? Subjecting countless people to a life of poverty? Yeah, I can agree with that. Lifting rocks? Sure. Men's capabilities end at physical strength which is pretty obsolete in today's world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 05:45 PM
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Men Slaves built civilization FTFY, but just to go along with your point: Men also destroyed countless civilizations, murdered countless people, and laid waste to a good portion of the planet. Why you piggy backing bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 05:30 PM
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You're just all up in the wrong eras and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 07:21 AM
6

I'm glad we had this chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 07:15 AM
0

On the internet, no one knows you're actually a baby seal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 07:13 AM
0

Mr or Mrs banana. That's Mi'Lord to you, boy. Bring your banana and a spare as I am lacking an adequate source of potassium and a weapon. So be it. I look forward to aiding in your demise. Prepare to be defeated. En Garde!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 07:10 AM
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Yes. Yes. On average, yes. What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 07:02 AM
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I asked you for a source, kid. Back up your shit or get the fuck out. I'm not going to entertain your bullshit temper tantrums.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 05:42 AM
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Yes, not being a pathetic doormat and asserting myself has worked out wonderfully for me in my past relationships along with becoming an interesting person. Too bad this is the most generic shit and is in no way exclusive to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 01:57 AM
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Women have virtually no logical abilities. Citation seriously needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 01:50 AM
2

They are like the betas they hate on so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 10:25 PM
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Well good thing I'm not a fucking woman. An anecdote is not proof of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 09:57 PM
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Yes, but men are more likely to have higher IQs as well as lower IQs More likely to have lower ones than higher ones. Geniuses are exceptions. Most people, men and women, are average. When the IQs are averaged separately by sex though men are still on average smarter. A few points doesn't make one smarter. That's not how intelligence works. Again, those points are negligible. Edit: added more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 09:57 PM
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So the notion that men evolved the capacity to work better in teams than women is complete nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 08:53 PM
8

So both men and women perform well in teams?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 08:12 PM
3

Men are better at maths And this has to do with brain size how?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 07:48 PM
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Lol, no actual evidence for your claim, how typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 07:31 PM
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No. Ah honey Don't start that patronizing bullshit with me kid when you don't even know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 07:16 PM
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Since IQ is positively correlated to the brain size Proportionate to the size of the organism. Men having bigger brains than women has absolutely no bearing on intellectual capacity. This idea has been debunked. If it were true, then we'd be ruled by elephants.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 07:10 PM
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The vast majority of tests have men scoring ahead of women. By a measly 3-5 points which are negligible. And no, the bell curve is different to men and women Let's see if I bold what I'm saying, you'll understand: the general population scores between 85-115, yes that includes men and women as well as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 07:00 PM
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I'm sure you have evidence to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:57 PM
4

Yes, although very slightly. Who's denying this though?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:46 PM
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[Here's the study he is referring to](www.pnas.org/content/.../14615.full.pdf). Please pay close attention to the conclusion. Edit: link is broken. Just Google synaptic density.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:28 PM
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No: By the current "deviation IQ" definition of IQ test standard scores, about two-thirds of all test-takers obtain scores from 85 to 115, and about 5 percent of the population scores above 125. Those 5 points are negligible when you take into account that the general population (that is, most people including yourself) score between 85-115. Also, you don't seem to be taking into account that the point difference varies between tests and that in the Raven's Progressive Matrices women in the west…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:23 PM
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Anecdote Aaand we're done.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:41 PM
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Yes because one part of the brain makes no difference It's funny because I know exactly what study you got this idea from and it's pretty clear that you didn't read it. The study was working with epileptic brains (meaning, not people from the general population) and in the conclusion the researchers themselves told their audience that correlation does not mean causation. Also 5 points on average is not negligible, that means for every one woman with an IQ of 120 there are twice as many men with …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:41 PM
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Women have less synaptic density In one part of their brain which doesn't even mean that they are less intellectually capable. 5 IQ points less on average Which are completely negligible. and have substantially less grey matter. Which doesn't affect overall intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:21 PM
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Men evolved the capacity to work better in teams (because they hunt and fight together)... you can see where this is going. What nonsense is this? Please tell me you have something to back up this assertion because this is complete bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:14 PM
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Right, but they obsess over them constantly. Methinks there's more to it than just them wanting to get their dicks wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 03:38 AM
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Of course it is, MGTOW have realized the lies I'm pretty sure MGTOW was around before TRP. Many RP men are in LTR, RP men target high value women to be partners and mothers. Yes, by figuring out ways to obsessively pine for their attention while simultaneaously thinking they are mentally inferior to them. There is respect and reward for those women. I don't know how much "respect" a woman can earn from an RP man when she is considered to be mentally childlike.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 03:01 AM
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Do they? Yes. I am sure MGTOW would disagree with you. MGTOW is not TRP. If that is what you think TRP is about then you obviously haven't read enough. This is a cop-out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 02:49 AM
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Eh, the same thing could be said about TRP. If women are so awful, manipulative, and dumb, then why do TRP men constantly pine for their validation and attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 02:35 AM
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It's an ideology that works in absolutes and claims to be the "truth". As such, its members adopt an absolutist view of the world that works in binaries. The entire point of being a living, sentient creature is to fuck. This is a belief that stems from said world view and it is quite common among RP members
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 08:59 PM
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The entire point of being a living, sentient creature is to fuck. And this is why TRP is toxic. If you can't fuck, or get a partner who wants to fuck you, that's a pretty serious issue. See, that's the thing about humans, we can pick and choose what we want to do with our lives and how we want to use our brains. Some people delve into their base instincts and think there is no other world outside of eating, fucking, etc. While others ignore said instincts and create awesome things while pushing …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 07:27 PM
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1). 9 My mom is one of the most thoughtful and philosophical people I know. 2). 7 Never really got along, so I can't gauge properly. 3). 5
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 07:03 PM
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This is a public forum, get over it. If you're real salty about it, then PM /u/razorbeamz to get whatever answer you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 01:35 AM
1

And why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 12:41 AM
4

I am a 25 year old starving artist. Will draw for sandwich! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 05:24 PM
0

Their current strategy of being belligerent, confrontational and attracting outrage is working much better at getting attention. It's getting negative attention which causes them to not tackle actual issues that men deal with because they are too busy having screaming matches with feminists over the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 09:15 PM
5

If you don't want to get pegged, then dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 08:58 PM
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For some reason, your reply did not show up in my inbox. Currently, i am not able to view the youtube videos, so I'll tackle the articles. That vice article really painted the MRM in a bad light, I doubt that the members that actually want change blame feminism for all their woes. The "don't be that girl" posters were specifically designed to be antagonistic towards feminists especially since the rate of false rape accusations is incredibly small. The violence against men posters were as well. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 08:45 PM
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I agree. I honestly think they should change their name. People aren't really going to get behind a movement called Men's Rights and social movements are kind of a popularity constest. That's just my two cents though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 07:39 PM
5

Do you really think that reverting back to traditional gender roles will help men at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 07:36 PM
4

And this is why the MRM is a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:57 PM
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So yes, you are, in fact, trolling. Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:50 PM
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Thsi is a lot like a white slave holder saying No this is a man saying what the fuck has the MRM done for men? since modern man is in a much worse position. Yeah, not having to get married in order to have sex or have the oppostunity to be given an education so that we aren't sudgegated to the piss poor working conditions of coal mines and oil rigs is literally misandry. If we could rape women, shit would be so much better amirite? /s You trolling bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:41 PM
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The MRM has been doing those things pretty consistently. Please show me some type of evidence for this that is found outside of the MRA subreddit, or their designated corners of the internet. its pretty obvious modern western men have it much worse Top kek. Edit: my phone hates words.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:28 PM
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What are you talking about? You want to get shit done, you protest, you create awareness for these issues, you blow up on social media to get people's attention. That's what feminism has done, and it's work out pretty well for them. What's the MRM's excuse? No "institutional power"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:18 PM
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The "workplace death gap" and selective service has been front & centre in the MRM But have they done anything about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:06 PM
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just go and sit where nobody is smoking, or just go outside. Because blowing poison in someone's face is going to affect their health. Incels have options, they are just lazy as fuck and have a terrible attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:32 AM
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Sick burn bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:21 AM
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A loaded question is a question with a false or questionable presupposition, and it is "loaded" with that presumption. OP's question: To BP guys who view porn online, if I were to look at your porn viewing history, would I find most of the female actresses to be young (18-24) or older (40+)? Also, do most of the actresses in your viewing history have a low to normal BMI, or do they mostly weigh in excess of 200 lbs? Which he further explains: but I'm just curious to know if the age and weight of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:20 AM
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Why such pessimism? Because being an incel isn't an actual problem. Just hire a prostitute. People do it all the time, or go to a place where prostitution is legal, or just fuck one another
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:55 AM
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Loaded question is loaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:50 AM
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So, it has to be free. No. You invest time, money, etc. into your potential partner involuntarily so it's not free. Attraction isn't free, and it's a necessary component for sex unless you hire a prostitute. This isn't a difficult concept. I might go to the Free Sex Saturday, It's never going to happen so I suggest that you and your incels buddies just fuck one another. It's your best bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:47 AM
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Taking something that is free doesn't mean that one is lazy. Except that sex is not free. Well, everyone is entitled to something. Not to someone else's body parts unless you are an organ donor and even then you'd better not be a smoker, a crackhead, or ridiculously old. I think that most of them want women, or they would have already figured out that they could fuck each other. Beggars can't be choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:00 AM
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If Y is "I'm a virgin and it's not fair" and X is "I'm very ill" then you are delusional if you think I'm going to sympathize with Y.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 12:55 AM
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This isn't a debate kid. I'm surprised it's still up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 12:54 AM
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Sure, but not because you're a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 11:06 PM
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This isn't a debate, kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 10:59 PM
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Are you fucking kidding me? There is nothing sensible about OPs post. My reply is one of the more seinsible comments here. Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 10:16 PM
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So, what you're saying is that incels are lazy entitled fucks, color me shocked. You know what would be an even better solution? If they just fuck each other. Boom, problem solved. No cost and it'd be legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 09:27 PM
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He was a sniveling little shit. Pussy wouldn't have been enough if you take into account that he was a spoiled brat who drove a BMW that was given to him by his daddy. Kids like this don't want to work for anything because they are entitled, lazy wastes of space who feel they deserve the world handed to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 09:25 PM
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Escort services are legal. Prostitution is illegal. I'm sure many escorts have sex with their clients though. What the cops don't know won't get anyone arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 09:16 PM
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No, because he was fucked in the head. Pussy wouldn't have been enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 09:13 PM
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Elliot Rodgers was a spoiled, sniveling, mysogynistic little shit who died like a fucking coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 08:45 PM
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A man who can't get laid is not suffering. You know who is actually suffering? The poor, the sick, those that live in war-torn places, etc. If it's so important to you, then hire an escort. This "proposition" is some real pathetic shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 08:42 PM
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That paper doesn't even bring up chastity in women, but I will give you credit for providing something that talks about monogamy. Albeit, it's more about jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 08:36 PM
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You really believe that Yes. The idea of chastity and exclusivity being unimportant is. No, read an anthropology book.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 07:42 PM
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Every major culture went from hunter-gatherer to agriculture which in turn gave rise to the idea of private property.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 07:40 PM
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I've got a Bsc, Cool, me too. Do you honestly think desire and cheating popped into existence a few thousand years ago? I'm sure it's been around since forever but in a society that places importance on egotistical ideas and beliefs, consequences for said things are more heavily enforced. Our ancestors would have had the same biological preoccupations. Except that cultural influences play a huge role, especially a culture that values chastity and non-bastard children. Religion managed to put a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 10:15 PM
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This would go back to even our tribal hunter/gatherer days, far predating modern civilization. That's not true. Read an anthropology book. Humans used to live in tight nit communities where everyone took care of everyone. The idea of chastity and cuckolding are very new. We see monogamous behaviour in animals. And we also see non-monogamous behavior as well. I never mentioned monogamy anyway. It's absolutely not something that was recently constructed. It is compared to how long humans have been…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 09:41 PM
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Women are being anything other than sex things and this is bad I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 09:31 PM
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It's biological. Just as is the aversion to slutty women. There isn't enough evidence of it being biological rather than social so I disagree entirely. It's based on the need to avoid being cuckolded. You realize that chastity and cuckolding are very new concepts in comparison to how long humans have been alive right? Men who had this aversion passed on their genetics more frequently than men who were indifferent. That's just not true. This argument stems from a lack of understanding as to how a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 09:24 PM
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Would it be fair to say women see things through a estrogen "muh feelings" lens, and are unable to see things from a male point of view? Some women? Yeah, absolutely. The problem is that TRP just reinforces this view, so members are stuck in an "anger phase" feedback loop. but men understand that. Men in general? Yeah. Men in TRP? Doubtful. It's just women sleeping with men who fit all the alpha qualities and then saying they want a nice guy who treat them well while simultaneously turning them …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 09:04 PM
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Ok come here, give me your hand since you are insisting. See, what humans look for in one another is similarity when it comes to long term mating. So women like taller men, but only by a few inches. A 5'1" female will go for a 5'5"-5'7" male or so and there are all types of reasons for this, both social, and evolutionary. But since you like STEM so much, I'll science this for you. In evolutionary terms tall men could have been chosen over short men because they were seen as stronger, offered mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:56 PM
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We have a preference for chaste women, I'm glad RP men have a preference for chaste women. Just don't expect one if you whore it up. Let's play a game. Nah, I'm not about to hold your hand and explain to you why your comparison is shit, sorry. Not to memtion that your post doesnt deserve a civil answer seeing as it is dripping with snark and condensation, so be on your way baby terp.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:23 PM
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Their entire reasoning behind why they hate post wall women and sluts is because men and women are different and because they are unable to understand women due to their very narrow world view. Is it jealousy? In my opinion, absolutely. A lot of them seem to be under the impression that women are coddled in society and that they live life on "easy mode" so they are absolutely jealous that they are not awarded the same "privilege." The problem is that they see everything through an angry testoste…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:16 PM
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Encourage her to eat better, invite her to the gym with me, or tell her straight up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 01:06 AM
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Many Native American tribes were matriarchal. It's not that they were matriarchal, they were matrillineal, as in, things were passed down from mothers rather than from fathers. Many ancient societies didn't have a specific "archy" since both men and women shared most of the power. Of course there were exceptions, and still are, such as the Inuit, where men hold most of the power since they gather most of the food. A father making a doll for his daughter?? There were many societies (some which re…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 12:55 AM
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Like Native American tribes, many of which were incredibly progressive when it came to social issues. I remember reading a convo where an avid RPer was convinced that ancient hunter-gatherer women were kept around as nothing more than brood mares and fuck toys and that Native American women were privileged in comparison to other societies. Where he got his facts from, I don't know, but I'm sure he was talking straight out his own asshole. if I could stay exactly where I am and go back 500 years,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 08:21 PM
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Every (and I mean every) RPer thinks he's an archaeologist/anthropologist. Agreed. A lot of information is easy to find nowadays. Just go on Google and type in "division of labor in hunter-gatherer societies" and BOOM! you instantly get an overwhelming amount of information. It's all just laziness and confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 06:52 PM
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What does this have anything to do with love? Seeing as humans need quite a bit of parental investment, if either one dies the other can pick up the slack.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 06:37 PM
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I cannot tell you how many times I've seen the logic that a prehistoric woman was solely dependent on her male mate If you take a look at "modern" hunter gatherer societies, everyone depends on one another. This argument just stems from laziness and confirmation bias in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 06:32 PM
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Hey you fooled me. I thought you were being serious until I saw your username.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 05:52 PM
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Do you honestly believe millionaire men are somehow have different biological wants than non-millionaire men? They are an exception because not every man just so happens to be a millionaire. Like I told the other guy, you are reaching. Also, you are aware that not every millionaire is some hyper frat party boy like Dan Blitzerian, right? in our current feminist-created legislation that allows a stay-at-home wife to legally rape her husband in a divorce settlement. Alimony has been around since b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 05:38 PM
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I think he is really convinced you're a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 12:20 AM
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I don't really date outside of my friend circle and friends are like walking Yelp reviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 12:19 AM
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Because reducing education costs by almost half, yet increasing education levels, will lead to poverty. Yes because not everyone would be able to afford an education. Which means that only the wealthy will be educated which means that only the wealthy will go to college and get high paying jobs which in turn gives them more power. The poverty levels would rise because, let's face it, only the well off and wealthy can go to private schools as is, so you would condemn millions of children to live …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 12:18 AM
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This is a sure fire way to increase poverty rates and drag a society back to an absolute oligarchy, which as we all know, has worked out so well in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:25 AM
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Again citation seriously needed. Anecdata is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 01:47 AM
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The main reason white women end up with white men in the end overwhelming is due to their own narcissism. Citation seriously needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 12:45 AM
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but it's often a compromise in something important. Except that when it comes to marriage, most men feel like they didn't settle. i'm pointing out that the richer men tend to also have the sort of power that means they get close to their 'ideal' with less effort. With a lot of money, or with very little money, people will pair off with someone who is similar to themselves and often marry withinn their own age bracket. That's how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 12:02 AM
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How many men in the west are so dirt poor that they don't have any options? How do you know that poorer men want similar things to rich men when it comes to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 11:48 PM
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Goddamn, I love it when RPers argue with one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 11:34 PM
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I wouldn't really have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 11:20 PM
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She'd be banking so I'm sure she could afford her own goddamn soda.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 11:15 PM
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Rich men are exceptions to the general population Yes the general population. Which is whom I've been talking about while you and some other guy piped in about rich men who are part of the wealthy 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 07:18 PM
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Rich men are exceptions. Rich people in general are exceptions. Again, you're reaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 07:08 PM
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You are using an exception to prove a rule. You're reaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 07:00 PM
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we're taught from an early age to never question the actions of women. I'm sorry, but that's complete bull. I've experienced the exact opposite growing up so you can call me a biased asshole if you want but that's something I can't logically get behind. The media/society/everybody pretty much perpetuates the same old "women are weak, men are strong" stereotype over and over again so I can't relate. some never do and end up as "male feminists". Or maybe some men actually want to become feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 06:00 PM
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I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:46 PM
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Take a nice look at some millionaires and you'll see just what men whom afford to date much younger/hotter chicks feel. Yes, millionaires. The 1% of the population that are in no way representative of men as a whole. Are you being serious right now? The average male is certainly getting turned on just thinking about how much of a "decent career" his future wife is going to have. It has nothing to do with being tuturned on. A woman with a decent career is a better marriage prospect than a woman w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:43 PM
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You got banned and then made another alt in order to stalk me. I am so flattered little troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:34 PM
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I think there's a For Mods tag but I could be wrong. If not you can just message them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:39 AM
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Try tagging this post so that the mods can notice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:19 AM
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Funny you edited my quotes to help them fit your argument, rather than take them verbatim. I didn't edit your quotes. They are, verbatim, what you actually wrote. I just put them side by side to show how dishonest you are being. I gave a succinct, logical, thoughtful argument upon this question, What I'm saying is, the answer to "Why can't women on Facebook find QUALITY MEN after they turn 30?", is that those men can do better than 30+ women. Period. Cry about it. Excoriate me and tell me how wr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 04:10 AM
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When did we ever say we were in the majority? When the fuck will women understand that your degree, your job, your career success is not an "asset" in the dating department? Assuming you speak for men in general. We completely understand that the majority of men are Blue Pill-conditioned, Beta Bux manginas who will cuckold another man's kids, wife up a single mother, and start filling in the financial gaps that alimony and child support doesn't cover. Assuming that A) cuckolds and alimony are th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 03:47 AM
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When will you RPers understand that you are a minority of men that are in no way representative of the general male population? You guys are a tiny minority. You might not find a 30 year old woman with a decent career attractive but insinuating that men in general (hell, even in your own sub) don't is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 03:10 AM
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It goes without saying that if children can internalize what they see with regards to gender roles, they might very well do the same with regards to distorted depictions of dating and relationships. Yes, children. People aren't children forever and at some point one grows up to realize that cartoons are not to be taken seriously. I don't understand why you want men to pinpoint a specific individual who lied to them. Because they cry about being lied to constantly. Like they expected all the answ…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 02:17 AM
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I think it'd be pretty useful and would definitely help in refining the content in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 01:11 AM
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Are there mods that thinks most post like this Concern trolling? This isn't TRP. it is an opinion piece... Most pieces in this sub are opinion pieces. He should have tagged it as "discussion". I think it's time to bail out of the sub. Then by all means, leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 01:08 AM
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The answer is literally on the introduction piece on the very sidebar of the TRP. What it offers is a complete nonanswer that doesn't even begin to address any of my questions. So who specifically lied to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 01:02 AM
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Patiently waiting for an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 12:09 AM
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I don't understand the lying part. Who lied to you so much that made you so damn angry? Disney? They are cartoons. You're not supposed to take them seriously. Your parents? They think the sun shines out of your ass so their advice is going to be shit. Society? No, sorry, the world isn't going to be handed to you on a silver platter. Never being alone; pointing out guys that they get bad vibes from, being really loud when threatened, getting guy friends to hang out with them, etc. This was me a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 11:22 PM
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Most RP advice is in no way exclusive to the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:56 PM
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So I'll take this as a yes that you do, in fact, want to suck my dick. you should go ask to get my posts deleted again No need to ask because you're just going to do it yourself like a fucking coward. You're so pathetic kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 08:23 PM
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That stuff dies out as you age. Mind you, it's still important, but not something I incorporate much into my predictions for LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 07:24 PM
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Are you going to ask a mod to delete my comments like you did last time you pathetic social spastic. Bwahaaha it is you!! Oh shit, you just don't know when to quit kid. I hope you get banned again babe. Jesus Christ you're so pathetic. Why are you so obsessed with me, hmmm? You want to suck my dick or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 07:17 PM
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I predict my relationships according to how compatible we are. If we have roughly the same values and goals, then my relationship will last a very long time. This isn't a sound prediction though because people change as they get older. As for other people's relationships: If it doesn't involve me in any way, I don't give a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 07:15 PM
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I didn't report you, baby troll. Don't cry too hard, okay? Are you going to delete your comments now like a coward like you did last time?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 07:02 PM
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I'm sure you have all the answers. I'm looking forward to your next username. Don't be so obvious next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:44 PM
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You are such an obvious troll and frankly one I've probably encountered before under a different name, so no you don't deserve a serious reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:23 PM
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I make sure that I date trustworthy people who share my values. I also don't date strangers and most of my SOs I've met through mutual friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:18 PM
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Please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:16 PM
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I make sure I am friends with them first or make sure that someone in my circle of friends knows them. I take LTRs really seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:12 PM
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I'm a biased asshole so most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:10 PM
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You are so smart. Thank you for gracing me with your presence. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:06 PM
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So far so good, I don't want to push my luck though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 09:53 PM
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That TRP is very cult-like? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 09:53 PM
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As a man, as long as you don't have some major deformity on your face or are not 500lbs, you can pretty much go to any club/ bar/party and have a really high chance of getting laid. Women overlook all kinds of crap when it comes to ONS, so getting sex is pretty easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 09:52 PM
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You're saying that sex is a reward for your behavior correct? Sex nowadays is really cheap, so it's not really a reward more like an honorable mention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 09:12 PM
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I make sure that I know the person I am dating before I actually date them. It's not a fail-proof method, but so far it has worked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 08:59 PM
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Except that the price of sex is so cheap that frankly it's just the equivalent of an honorable mention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 08:54 PM
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I love how upset you are. Please continue to be some faux-expert on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 08:46 PM
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Are you done?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 07:59 PM
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It's cult language. Just look at the rest of the replies. Look at how obviously irritated some of them are. That's how cults work. They talk mad shit online but then specifically tell each other to not share their ideas with the outside world. Their reasoning for it is because we live in a "Blue Pill World" That's not ready to handle the "truth". In reality, most RP ideas crumble in the real world and they are afraid of being criticized for them by people they actually know. Hell, they can't eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 07:43 PM
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I don't care what you think. Clearly you've never met an actual, diagnosed narcissist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 07:26 PM
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All of them are actively trying to implement thought patterns that ARE objective narcissistic. Their entire strategy is to "fake it till you make it." They emulate these behaviors because they confuse confidence with narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 07:25 PM
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I don't think most RPers are actual narcissists. Actual narcissists really have it hammered in their heads that the world does in fact revolve around them. There is too much self loathing over at TRP from a lot of their members to actually be even considered nacissistic. If anything, they use TRP as a way to compensate for their shortcomings, sort of like a crutch. Narcissists don't pretend to be something they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 05:48 AM
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There is so such thing as a "self-made" anything. Everyone who got anywhere important in life had to rely on others to do so. The problem is giving credit to all those people is a pain in the ass and not worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:09 PM
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Thank you for opening my eyes to the truth. I had no idea my penis was so powerful until this very moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 04:36 AM
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That has nothing to do with genetics and more to do with behavior. Women being less risk adverse has nothing to do with variation in genetic traits due to their XX chromosomes. This translates into women generally being more alike to each other than men. Dude, just no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 03:34 AM
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Right, and women say no and continue to get raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 01:24 AM
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I haven't found anything that talks about his credentials, only that he is a blogger. He has a book and everything. Anyone can write a book nowadays. It's not some great feat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 01:13 AM
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Because clearly women saying no is not enough, especially when it comes to gray areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 01:09 AM
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It seems like an odd thing to have to deny women agency for. That's not denying women agency. Women are responsible to give consent if they are not the initiators. Men are responsible to receive consent when they are the initiators.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:39 PM
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All the positive things about TRP are in no way exclusive to the sub. You can literally find that shit anywhere else without the mysogyny baggage. Oh wait you're bp. That's why that wasn't insane. Heyoooo!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:37 PM
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When you're using it to not purposely harm others. Example, you're at a club. You see a chick you like, you go up to talk to her. You engage in witty banter or whatever then you both go to dance. It escalates. You both start making out at the back of the club. You make your intentions well known that you're only DTF. She's cool with it. You go to her place or she goes to yours. The end. No one got hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:21 PM
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And it's also important to teach boys what consent actually is and make sure they understand that if they initiate then it is their job to receive consent. This isn't a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:13 PM
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Tools all on their own are amoral. Humans are not. What a human does with a tool can either be moral or immoral. For example, a knife can be used morally if you are a surgeon or it can be used immorally if you are a murderer. As such Sexual Strategy all on its own is technically amoral. The problem is how it is implemented by its members. For example, bro-knighting. Sleeping with your friend's SO is an immoral action and stating that Sexual Strategy is amoral does not prevent you, the person, fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:09 PM
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Is he a licensed psychologist? Psychiatrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:39 PM
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If you're fucking her and she doesn't look like she's having a blast you make sure it's okay with her to continue. If not you stop because if you think "well, she's naked in my bed so she must want it anyways something something implied consent" then you will go to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:27 PM
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No that's enthusiastic consent. If she gets naked in your bed and suddenly freezes up, or doesn't enjoy it anymore but you continue because of "implied consent" then that's rape and you're going to jail. This isn't that hard of a concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:16 PM
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In fantasyland, maybe. No. This is how shit works in the real world. It is your job as the initiator to make sure that you get consent. It is her job to give consent. Like I stated before, "implied consent" is nonsense and will land you in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 06:45 PM
3

Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 03:31 PM
3

It's her job to give consent, it's your job to make sure consent was obtained. "Implied consent" is how people end up going to jail. Comprende?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 03:30 PM
2

A society that murders its unborns should do away with such pretensions. But it wont, so get used to it. This is reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 03:29 PM
7

Not magical morals. Except that laws work within a moral framework. Society works within a moral framework. Your amorality scapegoat nonsense would not fly in court and it could apply to every crime. Example: I think murdering is amoral. Survival of the fittest right? So I go over to my neighbor's house and bludgen him to death with a hammer. Although he never revoked consent to be beaten to death, I'm still going to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 06:18 AM
1

I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 02:12 AM
1

I don't live in a low income area and I agreed with hyperrreal that cultural location has a lot to do with it. Check your privilege. No. >:(
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:42 AM
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Well fuck. The disrespectful thing I understand, but the other thing? Sheesh, those are some intense personalities you live around.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:36 AM
1

I'll bet RP replies to that with some mental gymnastics form of AF/BB theory though. And knowing how to hold frame...or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:23 AM
4

True, I'll give you that, but have they been over a guy asking someone's girlfriend to dance? I've seen some nasty fights at sports bars for example that started between two die hard fans, but fights over women have been rare in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:17 AM
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Never in my entire 25 years has anyone ever fought me because I asked their girl to dance and I've been to plenty of shitty dives. A lot of RPs seem to have this idea that most men are super confrontatonal neanderthals but that couldn't be farther from the truth. A respectful "sorry bro, she's taken," is the only thing I've come across. We'll fight over a sports team before we fight some guy that wants to buy our girl a drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:15 AM
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That's the type of shit you'd run into at a dive bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:03 AM
2

Except that the Y chromosome that you inherited is identical to your father's and grandfather's and male ancestors before you. The only purpose the Y chromosome serves is to express male specific traits. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:51 PM
0

This could also be used to explain why there have been more male geniuses than female geniuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:18 PM
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I'm not a redpiller, but that doesn't make any fucking sense. Having a Y chromosome doesn't make you a super special snowflake, in fact, it is really tiny and not as information dense as the X chromosome. The only purpose of the Y chromosome is to establish male specific traits. This is also very interesting. Since normally only one Y chromosome exists per cell, no pairing between X and Y occurs at meiosis, except at small regions. Normally, no crossing over occurs. Therefore, except for rare mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:05 PM
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How many men would suddenly switch the script and go feral, trying to bring that system down? So far there hasn't been any type of revolution in japan, seeing as the numbers of herbivore men are only on the rise. How many men would simply choose to opt out of the system and content themselves with living in single appartments, watching netflix/playing video games all day, and just working enough to get by? I think most men are going to be completely on board with this. I predict that this is how…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:10 PM
1

Trust me, most of us will let you know. We'll scream it from the heavens and parade it around like it's some type of fucking trophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:03 PM
1

Still no counterargument. Please continue to ad hom though, it seems to be the only thing most of you can do, instead of debating like the "rational" men you guys think you are. Edit: also, still no source I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 05:45 PM
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Doesn't provide any type of counterargument. Gets feels hurt. Deflects and calls my argument dumb. Damn kid, I just love watching you fall flat on your face over and over again. I'm still waiting on that source from the other thread seeing as you completely chickened out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 04:51 PM
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they're just weaker mentally Yep, because when times get tough it's women who go shoot up schools....oh wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 04:17 AM
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It really can happen, Please provide some sort of source for this because I am calling bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 04:03 AM
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I'm not going to change your view. Mods have every right to do whatever they want with their sub, and if keeping the content clean is their priority, then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 10:33 PM
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He made a thread where he said he was entitled to sex from women and pretty much became a huge troll (although he already was) and was promptly banned. He even made an alt and came here to bitch about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:39 PM
1

Actually, products that were normally geared towards woman are now also geared towards men in japan. Not to mention the other side of the coin, japanese women who are also showing a disinterest in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 03:37 AM
1

Okay, so in a dystopian future where most men jerk off to porn all day and resign women completely, men aren't going to marry, which means women aren't going to either. You know what happens to lonely people? They buy more. And products are going to be advertised in a way to incite this loneliness because psychology is used already in advertisements to make people buy all kinds of crap. Women will still be the biggest consumers, because, like I already stated, they have jobs now and outnumber me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 02:50 AM
1

Okay a woman is a female human. A feminist is a person with a certain set of political and social beliefs. Do you see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 02:46 AM
0

Sorry, I'm not about to explain this to you like you are 5. I don't have the time at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 02:39 AM
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You said nearly as much. Don't start twisting things around. Women will continue to consume at the same rate with a husband or not. If there is a dip, I doubt it'll be because men aren't marrying. If anything, I think consumption will just rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 02:38 AM
0

What's the difference? Aaaaaand we're done.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 02:33 AM
0

This isn't the 1950s, women nowadays have these things called jobs where they get money to buy things. No husband necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 02:29 AM
1

so much easier to attack than the actual behavior of women. Like I asked before, women or feministst?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 02:17 AM
-2

Men who stay single are probably going to engage in less consumer spending as a result. Women make up most of the consumers anyway and chances are porn is going to be heavily regulated by the government so that the economy doesn't take a huge dip.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 02:16 AM
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Yep, pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 12:17 AM
0

I don't agree at all but thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 12:13 AM
4

screams "MUH MAXILLA!" and collapses in the middle of the bar. Dude, my sides. I can totally picture this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 11:27 PM
10

Buy some shots, chill with the BP crowd, play some pool, make new friends, and have a good time while the RPs hang in a corner somewhere, over analyzing everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 11:27 PM
2

I have no idea what you're talking about but thanks for letting me know that your sex life is awesome. Mine is too, want to trade stories or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:49 PM
0

Then enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:48 PM
2

I've had my moments of "I'm such a mediocre piece of shit" when it came to my art career but never among my peers or friends or colleagues etc. Who knows, maybe I just haven't had that realization yet but I'm usually good at making my presence known when I'm surrounded by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:20 PM
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Ah, I see. My bad lol. I definitely have "beta" qualities I won't deny it. I am a very caring person to say the least and I'm also pretty considerate of those around me. That being said I also have plenty of "Alpha" characteristics as well. I don't like being told what to do, I'm very straightforward and decisive, and when I have my mind set on something no one can deter me. I think both are fairly balanced in my personality and they always have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:07 PM
3

I'm still waiting for a bacon pocket pussy. Get your shit together sex industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:29 PM
4

And she must also simultaneaously be "pure" but somehow super kinky in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:27 PM
5

Yeah, I thought so. What's up with this weird idea that women are equivalent to feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:26 PM
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Probably around the time where my body literally starter to orbit around this one girl. I turned into a spherical object and everything. I was this chick's moon, and chicks love moons. That was also my first and last acid trip. Now, all joking aside, All of the bp males are beta how did you come to this conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:24 PM
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Yeah, well if you expect a girl to take it up the ass like a porn star then that's pretty unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:00 PM
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Grid: she seems like she'd be down for some kinky stuff, which is totally cool with me. MistressNatalie: from her posts she seems like she's really down to Earth and I dig that. RP4L: glad he's banned. Good fucking riddance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:23 PM
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Like, if there were no women they would all just lay down and wait for death, which would cause an economic collapse. Well that's just ridiculous and doesn't really make any sense. do you seriously doubt this an en masse thing? I know a shit ton of men look at porn including myself. What I'm saying is that I doubt men will ever give up women for porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:12 PM
1

Women, or feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:01 PM
1

Woops, my bad xD
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:01 PM
1

Yeah I think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:28 AM
1

Op meant people on this sub xD.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:18 AM
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Most of the research I found is pretty outdated so I will concede my point for now. This is very bad for society and the economy. If it becomes an en masse thing then I can see how it would be problematic for society, but I can't see the economy suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:51 AM
4

I'm an asshole who likes to be an asshole to other assholes. Also, this will probably get taken down. Just letting you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:41 AM
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Many people say porn is damaging to men because the girls they masturbate to are far more attractive than girls they can get in real life. I thought the problem was that it creates a negative mentality toward women in men and that it promotes unrealistic sexual expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:38 AM
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Oil - standard of living. Or we can just find ways to use renewable resources instead of senselessly bombarding other countries. You just find them morally disagreeable, Humans are creatures of morality no matter how much you say otherwise. We rely on one another to be morally good. This is why we live in a civilized society. But, you can knock yourself with your "amorality" scapegoat all you want. which is funny because you willingly participate in a society built on the blood and sweat of expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:28 AM
1

Please continue to be petty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 10:04 PM
1

Again, I'm sorry you don't know how to end a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 09:56 PM
3

Everyone is given horrible advice when it comes to dating. I know I was given my fair share of shitty advice. It's not entirely accurate to describe these things as lies. Because they are not. Rather, they aren't able to accurately articulate the things they're really attracted to. I don't think anyone really is. I think a lot of RP members are equating shitty advice with being lied to, which is innacurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 06:37 PM
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That's unfortunate. But this: Now, where in the "Blue Pill Be Yourself" manual is it explained why young me's thought actually makes quite a bit of sense? Is a strawman. BPers here get ragged on by RPers for giving platonic advice such as be yourself, when that has not been the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 06:29 PM
1

Just because omegas hamster away their failure and play it off as MGTOW doesn't make them MGTOW. Again, agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 06:18 PM
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Is killing afghans for oil so you can drive your fat ass to McDonald's drive through senseless violence? Yes. How about cracking someone in the jaw who disrespected your girlfriend? Also yes. You may find biological tendencies to be in line with locking people away for senseless violence Again, appeal to nature fallacy. There's more that you have in common with them than that in which you differ. Right except that I'm not a rapist, or a thug, or a murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 06:16 PM
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You phrase this like acting according to men's natural biological tendencies is a bad thing we need to stamp out If that biological tendency includes senseless acts of violence because some dude lost his cool or whatever then you bet your ass that shit needs to be stamped out. We live in a civilized society. Just because something is "natural" doesn't mean it's "good". This is an appeal to nature fallacy. Also, thanks for clumping the rest of us in with violent criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 09:35 AM
0

I'm agnostic so, I mean, anything is possible. I'm obviously joking fyi
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 05:41 AM
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However, I started to see a pattern in my connections with the opposite sex. The less I cared, the more she did. The more I cared, the less she did. That's great. I'm glad you figured it out without becoming a dipshit. Now, where in the "Blue Pill Be Yourself" manual is it explained why young me's thought actually makes quite a bit of sense? I don't know because that is a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 03:31 AM
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Define "lied to."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 03:03 AM
2

“My generation of boys is f**ked,” “All that wouldn’t be so bad if we could at least dull the pain with girls. But we’re treated like paedophiles and potential rapists just for showing interest. My generation are the beautiful ones,” Never before in history have relations between the sexes been so fraught with anxiety, animosity and misunderstanding. To radical feminists, who have been the driving force behind many tectonic societal shifts in recent decades, that’s a sign of success: they want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 12:24 AM
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Do you white knight MGTOWs because you are one? Also, last time I checked, personal insults are against the rules. Reading must be hard for you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 12:04 AM
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what's so annoying about such men giving up on the struggle and seeking happiness elsewhere? Because they are whining about it and playing the blame game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:58 PM
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I'm sorry you don't know how to end a debate. Being petty must suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:57 PM
4

Could you be anymore butthurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:36 PM
1

"butthurt" seems pretty appropriate here. How ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:36 PM
1

It's that people are offended by their reasoning. More like annoyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 10:18 PM
2

The sexodus article, regardless of its worth or validity, is definitely producing enormous backlash, and that's significant. Because they are making mountains out of molehills and looking at women/feminism as the culprit for their "woes".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 09:59 PM
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Yes, because women are flooding the medical field.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 09:51 PM
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Impossible without men, who invented in-vitro, modern medicine - and contribute to sperm banks. We're talking about modern day correct? All that shit already exists and there will always be sperm donors seeing as donating is a quick way to make cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 09:46 PM
2

Agree to disagree then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 09:17 PM
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she's not fit and her genes are bred out of the gene pool. Eh, she can always go to a sperm bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 09:16 PM
2

The ones who actually matter Would you mind elaborating?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 09:12 PM
0

Troll harder please.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 09:07 PM
5

You have made a lot of false assumptions to jump to your conclusions in order to continue your bias. I have not. I've simply noticed a trend among MGTOWs. The Sexodus is just the cherry on top. If there is one thing they love to do more than supposedly "avoid" women is bitch about them constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 09:07 PM
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What about now? Still whine-fest? Nope because they don't write idiotic articles about how "unfair" things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 09:04 PM
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I don't care about their reasoning. You want to leave? Go ahead. It's the attitude that they have about it that's invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:52 PM
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Because a self-inflated sense of worth is something humans who need to overcompensate for their flaws do. It's easy to say "screw you guys, I'm going home," and then write a diatribe about how the world is going to shit because some men are exiting the dating market just to pull its readers heartstrings in a pathetic attempt to insight empathy. That's what the Sexodus is. If they had options then they wouldn't be bitching, they'd leave quietly on their own accord. But that's not what's happening…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:48 PM
3

As is TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:38 PM
3

And even though they obviously have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:33 PM
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Yes but those who complain to the extent of the Sexodus obviously don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:28 PM
6

I have, and TRP is about sexual strategy. You start piping up about self improvement in there and you'll be banned pretty fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:21 PM
6

Wrong. RP is focused on self-improvement, Wrong. TRP is focused on sexual strategy. Do you read your own sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:14 PM
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Most of the self improvement advice TRP preaches is in no way exclusive to the sub. What makes TRP TRP is the pseudo-science, confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance, which is used to justify their mysogyny and misandry while at the same time being a self fulfilling prophecy. Most of its members are caught in this never ending bitterness feedback loop which is both sad and hilarious. Why should I pity someone who is purposely stupid? Screw that, mocking the shit out of them is much more produ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:12 PM
7

The Sexodus is just pretty much a giant whine fest. If they have options then why do they whine so damn much?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:03 PM
1

I'm perfectly willing to believe that both that poster specifically, and TBP in general, are trolls. People believe all kinds of stuff to make themselves feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 05:57 PM
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It is the nature of women. Citation seriously needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 08:44 AM
4

One of the most active blue pillers here, and not the only that has pulled out the "insecure" line. She is an obvious troll. well, considering TBP is a troll sub, eh. Anything else you'd like to add?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 08:33 AM
5

One BPer who is a completely obvious troll. Wow. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 08:14 AM
0

Because their thoughts, ideas, and beliefs are completely inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 05:32 AM
4

Ease my way off of food made with animal products. I can't go 100% vegan yet, but I can give vegetarianism a shot. Launch a Patreon page. Start rough draft for a graphic novel. Get back into meditating. Seek medical advice for insomnia problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 07:00 PM
2

Hahaha thanks but I'm currently working off of comissions so it's not that great xD
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 03:34 AM
3

Gr8 b8 m8.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 01:56 AM
1

Male, not RP Drawing, painting, writing, and digital art work (That last one is part of my career so idk if it counts). Also playing video games, listening to music and recently got into archery.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 11:58 PM
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Eh, they're not very appealing at the moment. There's something about cleaning after a pooping, screaming, energy sucking vampire of a child that's not very exciting. But who knows. I might settle down or I might just jizz in cup.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 06:29 PM
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So, as a RPer, you sort of learn to operate complete indifference to what the votes say. Then why are you getting upset that things you disagree with make it to the top? But you can plainly see for yourself everyday that blue votes more proactively. But I thought you were indifferent to votes. Opinions that bash RP and statements of contempt of RPers or TRP. And opinions that bash TBP also get voted to the top by RP members. So say something angrily about RP, and you'll get upvotes even if you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 01:51 AM
5

Nope, never have been either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:54 PM
3

You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:51 PM
1

"In general, men were more likely to send friend requests, and women were more likely to receive them" Yes, this happens in online dating too. People can be more shallow online because they don't have to invest much into impressing their potential partners. For men, it's still a numbers game, even on the internet. Police Interview Footage Of Woman Who Wrongly Accused Man of Rape I agree that what that man went through was horrible, and she deserved to be punished more heavily, but this man's exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:49 PM
2

And I'm sorry no one ever cared about you baby terp.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:09 PM
2

Are you done baby Terp? This whole faux compassion is getting really boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:02 PM
2

Again, why are you so obsessed with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:53 PM
2

I actually have a family and good friends that I can rely on if things go to shit for me so I don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:44 PM
2

Please do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:34 PM
5

Do you have any evidence for any of this or is this just a temper tantrum? Also, what are we supposed to debate exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:33 PM
2

I'm sure you have plenty of evidence that supports the 20/80 rule when it comes to dating. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:28 PM
2

Bwahaha you again? Dude why are you so obsessed with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:26 PM
1

There is no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:55 PM
1

No hate, just annoyance. If you're going to quit, go ahead, but don't expect others to actually want to pay attention to your temper tantrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:54 PM
5

RP's "harsh truth" is fucking common sense. As for reality, BP is literally everything else that is not TRP, so I'll stick with everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:53 PM
5

You're not going to get representative answers. The BP crowd here has majority. They'll upvote things that they agree with or supports their point at will, even if its blatantly wrong. And the TRP crowd doesn't do the exact same thing? Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:34 PM
1

I sympathize with the guy. He shouldn't have been hanging with people he didn't really know. That being said the fault is on the party that assaulted and robbed him. They committed an actual crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:21 PM
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No, what the Yes means yes law is attempting to do is to give a clear definition on what consent is and isn't. This law is only in California, the liberal paradise, so this is still not evidence as to how women dont believe in thwir own agency or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:55 AM
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Women don't believe in their own agency. And what evidence do you have for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:35 PM
2

Right, and one is caused out of pure entitlement from a small minority, the other is caused by a fucked up cultural norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:27 PM
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There's a difference between whiny men not getting the sex they so rightfully think they deserve for simply fucking existing and aborting one sex over the other due to cultural norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:16 PM
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Have all the agency you want, I'm fine with that. I'm a man, so this whole taking agency away from me by others isn't a problem. is a world with vast quantities of de facto "surplus men." Yes, which I, and many many many other adults are completely okay with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:05 PM
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And women having agency be damned!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 10:49 PM
10

Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 10:36 PM
13

Just a group of guys who are upset that they are not getting what they feel they deserve and as such are exiting the dating world. It doesn't stop there, they actually want the world to give a fuck, so they write these click bait articles aimed mostly at women in an attempt to pull their heartstrings and give that loser who's been hitting on her for a while a chance. The reality is, no one is going to miss their exit from the gene pool. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 10:28 PM
2

Do you ever not circle jerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 06:07 PM
1

I don't know, I'm not an anthropologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 06:05 PM
1

Sourcing to a blog with no actual scientific doesn't make your argument any stronger. It only weakens it. The idea that men are smarter than women due to brain size has been debunked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 06:01 PM
1

Right, and you couldn't help yourself by sticking morality in there somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:52 PM
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No, I proved that claiming TRP is "amoral" is ridiculous seeing as humans are not "amoral" creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:40 AM
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I hardly think every single matriarchy would be blessed in this manner, with these perfect characteristics and egalitarian/female supremacist values I never said otherwise but okay. Uh no, judging from your previous statements in this thread it seems you really like to judge ancient societies by modern standards. I'm sure we're talking about agricultural societies and there's this thing that the agricultural revolution brought with it called trade. Trade brought a lot of awareness to other socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 03:45 AM
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they don't have the morality of "let's not wipe out another species". Well obviously. I think the opposite, they are driven to wipe out their prey Even so, notice how their prey doesn't disappear. There's a balance that doesn't seem to be disturbed by most animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 03:38 AM
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Right, that has more to do with exotic populations that don't belong in the environment and chances are they were introduced by humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 03:29 AM
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Not even, location is not the end all for conflicts It's not, but it is an excellent deterrent, especially for societies with very little technology available. what good would location do in a peaceful society if they were blessed with iron ore, but no will to fight? What makes you think they wouldn't? Would such a society send their women to war, putting them at a reproductive disadvantage to the patriarchal society? What makes you think there are no men present in said society? Such men would …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 03:28 AM
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Nature favors that behavior because the end result is the village that didn't get wiped off the map still exists and therefore can propagate. I think you're mixing up concepts here. War is a human abstract and has very little to do with nature. Yes, animals fight, whether it'd be to breed or to rise to a position of power; animals don't wipe out entire civilizations and cultures while enslaving its remains. The only difference here is I want to understand Nature for what it really is, not under …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 03:21 AM
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It's driven by human intelligence Shitting where you eat isn't very smart. with a more baser instinct for resource accumulation. By taking the resources from others even though you have enough already and then burning their homes down for shits and giggles as well as condeming them to a life of servitude. I think you're giving us humans much more credit than we actually deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:57 AM
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Yeah but that's utopian thinking, one single patriarchal warlike society would rek the "matriarchies" and force them into colonial servitude or sexual slavery Except, geographical location has a lot to do with how far this "war" would go. Not to mention that location would also impact how "peaceful" each matriarchal society was.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:52 AM
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Nature and evolution has this trick where it favors survival over any abstract notion of pacifism. Awesome. I have no clue what your little tangent has to do with enslaving others, murdering animals en masse not even mostly for food, and sucking every drop of oil out of the ground to burn it and pollute our own atmosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:42 AM
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If only she had presented an actual point and not some regurgitated quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:32 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:32 AM
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But we'd quickly be killed off or enslaved by those people who did. Unless matriarchal societies were prominent across the globe. You may be willing to die for your pathetic hipster ideals, 1) sweet ad hom bro. 10/10 2) since when did vegan become synonymous for hipster? If anything, I'm just a clean hippy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:31 AM
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What's so fascinating about it? I'm just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:09 AM
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What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:07 AM
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Just turned 25 actually. I bought vegan waffles today, but no hut yet. Baby steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 01:53 AM
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And we would also not have exploited (probably) the shit out of other people, animals, the planet's resources, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 01:48 AM
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The paper that I linked you to at the beginning of our exchange talks about it. It seems to me like you are saying the patriarchy was just one big mistake that snowballed I don't see it as a mistake at all. why weren't women (who had political and social power) unable to refute it or resist it? I'm not an anthropologist, so I don't really know but my guess is that since the nature of hunter-gatherer societies was mutual collaboration, women probably saw giving men more power as an incentive to k…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 01:44 AM
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Okay, so, hunting was more sporadical and less reliable than gathering, so as such hunters were more valued for the food that they brought home than gatherers because it served as an incentive. Then the rise of agriculture gave rise to the notion of property and the need for heirs. Since the idea that men (who were generally hunters) do more important work than women was probably still prevalent at the time, it is possible that from this men rose into more powerful positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 01:24 AM
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The question is why were they able to be denied it in the first place? If women had this great power, then why weren't they in charge of who gets to be denied power/agency/buzzword? Generally, most hunter-gatherer societies were fairly egalitarian and women had plenty of political and social power. It is believed that agriculture gave rise to this power imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 01:01 AM
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I don't really understand why flipping the sexes would change the relationship type. I don't really understand what you mean here. What do you mean by relationship type? My opinion on ONS is that women have a slightly easier time getting them than commitment. It'd be TRP ideas just rewrapped to fit a female agenda and it would mostly revolve around commitment rather than hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 12:06 AM
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The idea that men are smarter than women due to brain size is outdated and debunked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 12:02 AM
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Do you mean that you think women more often look for long-term relationships as compared to men? Eh, yeah, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:11 PM
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Agnostic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 07:58 PM
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I'm arguing from a position of amorality (which you redpillers love doing), nature, and trying to see if my opponent could continue to as well without sticking morality in there somewhere. He could not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 07:06 PM
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Keep reading the thread, I'll get to my point in a minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:49 PM
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Why are men with more symmetry attractive? Because it signals good health. Fitness isn't the only marker of attractiveness. You can be fit as hell, but if you have a butterface, then you probably won't get as far as the naturals. And who said naturals don't have jobs? Beliefs are everything. Not when it comes to nature, seeing as it is amoral. Yes, there are ugly people who do all kinds of awesome stuff, but they will not have the opportunities to breed like natural Alphas. but you can never fak…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:49 PM
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The TRP offers a way out of that, hence the whole point of this post. Right, but they will never be as good as the natural Alphas who have a guaranteed spot in the breeding game. If you believe that, then yes, it is true. This isn't about beliefs, this is about how nature works. Nature is amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:34 PM
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Exactly, amoral experiment forms amoral result "Bluepillers" get upset. Yeah, I'm not talking about TRP here, I'm talking about nature. I personally don't care if a group of ugly guys don't get to have sex. It's how the world works. Not everyone is destined to breed or get laid and plenty of people are simply genetic dead ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:27 PM
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And that helps them get laid... How? It doesn't, that's the point. If a peacock in the wild has shitty feathers, then he will not mate. Nature is amoral and all that jazz.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:20 PM
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We'd be flipping the sexes so it wouldn't be sex, it'd be commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:14 PM
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Sure, but if you're making a scientific claim, then backing it up with actual data males you look more credible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:08 PM
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I think it'd be pretty easy seeing as a lot of their concepts already apply to both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 05:42 AM
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Yes, actually. Just the other day I had a brief exchange with an RP member whom at first I thought was an abusive asshole, but upon further explanation of his marriage I ended up empathizing with the guy and apologizing for my behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:31 PM
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No. Rationalizing is a human trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:22 PM
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A Mother's first duty is to her spouse - the children are always second. This is a very naive way of thinking. A mother's first duty is to her children. A father's first duty is to his children. That's how parenting works. If she upsets her spouse she puts her children in danger. This is pretty misandrous. We don't live in a barbaric age and even if we did, a father wouldn't just hurt his own children. Protecting one's offspring is instinctual.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 07:34 AM
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Here you go, enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 12:26 AM
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I wasn't fat, I was a complete slob though. Doesnt she know big is beautiful? Not to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 09:28 PM
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=1h-bVNn0F4LYgwT8h4LIAw&url=https://www.ecu.edu/cs-dhs/fammed/customcf/resources/nutrition/what_is_BMI.pdf&ved=0CB8QFjAB&usg=AFQjCNF4nUIHQIvKJMZCUFONHfkrNEtNhg Sorry messy link. My Note 4 automatically downloads the PDF so I am unable to copy the address. Let me know if this doesn't work.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/14 08:21 PM
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Nevermind, that study is based off of BMI. I would actually be considered overweight according to the BMI, and Reggie Bush (Detroit Lions running back) would be considered obese with his height and muscle mass. Here's a PDF that details the exceptions to BMI.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/14 07:28 PM
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There is an obesity problem in the US so yeah. If you think I'm wrong by all means provide your own stats from reputable sources.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/14 07:09 PM
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Why are more women obese than men? http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/adult-overweightobesity-rate-by-gender/
/r/TheRedPill24/12/14 06:15 PM
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Right, but it helps prevent this financial abuse shit, which I'm not completely buying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 05:31 PM
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Aaaaaaaaaannd this is why two incomes are better than one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 05:04 PM
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He's completely ok with the idea of raping his own wife to show dominance so I wouldn't waste too much time on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 04:48 PM
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People will do what works, not what is right. If that were true then we wouldn't be living in a civilized society where you are awarded a shit ton of rights. If people did what works and not what is right, we would still be ruled by monarchs, no revolutions would have occurred, and we'd probably be war torn. It just so happens that people don't do what works most of the time, they do what is right, or at least try to because morality and ethics are things that are incredibly prevalent in humans …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 04:46 PM
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You mean work on improving your hygiene/appearance/fitness/personal ambition in order to raise your overall SMV with a hypothetical average girl who cares about those things? Yep, advice that is in no way exclusive to TRP :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 03:35 PM
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And I wish women didn't need to be abused in order to commit for the longest time without cheating/dumping. Most of them don't. Being an abuser is easy. Yeah, you get her commitment until she wises up or her friends/family intervenes. Becoming someone your girl actually wants to be with is much harder but the commitment is much stronger and lasts longer not to mention that you don't have to be a shit bag of a person to achieve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:27 AM
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also forcible appendage amputation is definitely comparable to saying things Ethics be damned according to OP so yeah, it's an excellent comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:21 AM
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TRP tactics is aimed to work on the young virgin housewife (immature, inexperienced, conservative) subset of women. What strategicatomicmoose said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:18 AM
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These are the girls The Red Pill wants. Young, immature, easy to control. We don't want the 40 year old feminist with 100 partners and no hopes of commitment. I never said otherwise. This is a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:16 AM
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Yes, and like other users in this thread have mentioned, it's easier to leave a non-abusive relationship than an abusive one. Also men are not an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:15 AM
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Abusers undermine the very qualities which enable someone to pick up and leave. Male or female. This, exactly this. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 05:35 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 05:06 AM
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Yeah, why is that? Could it be that certain TRP tactics work on only a subset of women that tend to generally be emotionally immature and inexperienced or come from super conservative homes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 05:05 AM
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Yeah, she's normally my go to for advice because she is so blunt and brutally honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 04:47 AM
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I agree. This topic has rustled some jimmies, and the claws are out amongst other members. I haven't seen anything comparable to that said by any RP person about any BP person ITT. And you're right, in this thread. Outside of this thread I have seen my fair share of RP members jumping on the personal attack bandwagon as soon as they get the chance, more so than BP in my opinion but I could just be full of shit, which you are free to assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 09:06 PM
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This paper gives excellent insight on how the earliest hunter-gatherers divided labor and how men and women were generally treated. It also further explains how women started to be seen somewhat as property once agriculture started to take over. I can think of at least four exceptions, Here is a wiki article that details the history of rape and how it has been considered a crime for a very very long time. Notice how rape as a crime was changed once Christianity took over as one of the more promi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 08:17 PM
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Notice how I used the words I've noticed. I used them for a reason, to signal that what I am about to say is a personal observation not a factual claim. Of course you, being a red piller, are going to disagree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:24 PM
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My mom: "Oh honey, you're so wonderful and any girl would be lucky to be with you. My sister: "Maybe if you werent such a fucking slob, a girl might actually want to touch your dick." My dad: "I don't know son, figure it out on your own." My sister by far gave me the best advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 06:50 PM
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Goddamn, that's deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 06:41 PM
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The thing with sources is that whenever RP present them you get twenty people jumping down your throat shouting " le biotruths" or telling you that you didn't read the study or you don't know how to interpret it without any reasoning as to why. I agree. From the RP members that I have encountered that have presented studies, I've noticed that they generally tend to jump the gun without taking into account the limitations of what they presented. For example, the OkCupid study is parroted a lot ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 06:02 PM
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You keep telling yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:55 PM
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Institutionalized rape and women having the status of property has been the norm for most of human history. But that's not true. You have a very flawed understanding of history and anthropology. Hunter-gatherer societies were fairly egalitarian and gender roles weren't really enforced until agriculture came into the picture. The only time I can safely assume "Institutionalized rape" ever occurred was during war times and that's because women were seen as the upholders of society. You take their …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:41 PM
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You can do whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:56 PM
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Actually, by definition, you have but you're allowed to think whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:55 PM
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https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:26 AM
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Let's take a look at your comment shall we? Would you like some more haterade Assuming I am a hateful person. to wash down all your confirmation bias? Assuming I am suffering from confirmation bias. Technically this is an ad hom.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:14 AM
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I think your original comment though doesn't take into account that logical and insightful observations/comments can be made even without academic studies. You're right, it really doesnt. Thanks for the observation. A good number of economic models, for instance, weren't build upon rigorous studies but rather theories based on existing knowledge and deduction + induction. No disagreement there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:00 AM
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This. Nothing TRP says is new. Their ideas have been around for a while, they have just been rewrapped to fit the era.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:51 AM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:48 AM
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I noticed a lot of bpers not even bothering to read their own sources. I agree. Such a bot would be useless because the bot itself doesn't read the studies and it doesn't confirm how bpers/rpers have interpreted them. Very true. I was just thinking out loud to be honest. The longer I spend on ppd, the more I see that most people will just google up with ease whatever supports their own view. I've noticed this as well. Confirmation bias and intellectual dishonesty is seen pretty equally from both…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:48 AM
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Hey remember that part in my comment about ad hom? Well here it is in action. You feel better now?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:38 AM
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Give me hard statistics on more BP mentioning sources and I'll happily accept it, but right now you are not sourcing your claims either (oh the irony) Which is why I said I've noticed. I'm not claiming anything, I'm making a personal observation. I wish I had time to tally every time an RP or BP member sources something but frankly I don't. It'd be a great idea for a bot though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:36 AM
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RP thinks right and wrong are a matter of opinion, and BP doesn't care what the facts are. I've noticed more BP members sourcing their claims than RP members. I've noticed more RP members throwing out ad hom at the first chance they get than BP members. I've noticed more RP members using anecdata to back up their world view instead of actual facts than BP members. I've noticed more close mindedness for RP members than BP members. Of course, any RP member who reads this will think the exact oppos…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:19 AM
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Oh God that fucking killed me, I laughed so hard I'm surprised I didn't get kicked out of the movie theatre.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 03:18 AM
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but as I understand it contraceptives essentially 'trick' a woman's body into thinking it's not fertile anymore. Actually no, it sort of 'tricks' the body into thinking it is already pregnant so that it does not release an egg. It achieves this by providing a constant balanced stream of progestin and estrogen. And by that I mean the similar hormonal changes are being triggered like menopause or a decline in fertility. The hormonal changes involved in menopause and decline in fertility are normal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 03:10 AM
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Is this another reason women tend to prefer betas as they grow older and their reproductive system / fertility is in decline? I don't know what this has to do with your quoted article. Do you mind expanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 02:47 AM
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I don't know man. I'm glad modern society is not so bleak. It's more nuanced than this obviously, I'm just simplifying it for the sake of this debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 09:13 PM
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I should've added this to my original comment. Very well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 08:56 PM
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I'm sure some just strapped their babies onto their backs and continued with their daily taks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 08:49 PM
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Because women were in a vulnerable state during pregnancy and men have more physical strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 08:47 PM
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Being a risk taker isn't a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 08:26 PM
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Being a risk taker isn't a role though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 08:24 PM
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Children are a huge investment that take 9 months to create. During that time women are generally more vulnerable so they would need protection. That was the role that men took over to ensuensure the safety of both their mate and their offspring. As society evolved these roles became much more complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 08:21 PM
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Like for instance, that men are more inclined to take risks due to greater levels of testosterone. I think you just answered your own question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 08:14 PM
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So you think humans just went over to other tribes and said "hey force the women to do the children stuff for no good reason, pass it on"? No. Women have the ability to become pregnant meaning that for 9 months theyd be in a relatively vulnerable state. Women get pregnant across cultures. I'm sure this had a huge influence in how gender roles were created and assigned. Humans are adapted to their traditional gender role biologically. If it's so biological like you claim, then feminism wouldn't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 08:13 PM
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But why was it so widespread? I don't know, I'm not an anthropologist, but I wouldn't chalk it up to nature seeing as humans are incredibly social creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:55 PM
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But that avoids the original question I had, which is "where did they come from in the beginning?" No it doesn't. Why was one gender nurtured one way and another in a different way across pretty much every society that we have known to exist? Because it rose from a societal need and because it made sense at the time to have the sexes do separate tasks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:38 PM
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So as a RP man, why do I live a lifestyle that TRP does not advocate? You tell me. So you are just trying to move the goalposts then? No, you said TRP is the truth, I said it's not. However, due to your bigotry, you will find any way to say it doesn't work. I never said that it wouldn't work, I said that it should be taken with a grain of salt instead of blindly trusting said advice because it worked for some dude you know. Also, what bigotry are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:37 PM
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Isn't it possible that men are more suited for the professions they tend to currently fill in STEM and leadership positions while women might naturally be more suited for the rearing and caring postions they traditionally take up like nursing and teaching? This goes back to nature vs. nurture. No, I personally don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:28 PM
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You can't possibly be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:19 PM
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Yes seeing as tasks A generally required physical strength while tasks B required child rearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:14 PM
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And what question is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:06 PM
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On average A tasks required physical strength, while B tasks generally involved child rearing. Physical strength can now easily be replaced by a machine and child rearing can now be a 2 parent sport instead of just 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:02 PM
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Humans, like other animals, adapt to their surroundings. Gender roles rose out of necessity, because children are a costly investment and it made sense at the time for men to do A and women to do B. Obviously I've simplified the shit out of this because this subject is much more nuanced and complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:55 PM
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You asked a married man how to court lots of women? That seems non-intuitive. No, I'm not interested in ONS, which is why I asked him. He had been married to her for a while (straight out of highschool) and he was 28 years old at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:43 PM
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Yes, he was a married friend of mine who then went ahead and cheated on his wife. Safe to say that his advice was complete garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:33 PM
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I didn't either until I saw TRP. The mental hoops these guys jump through to hamster away their insecurities and fears is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:30 PM
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I'm a 25 year old man who has been given a good share of shitty dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:24 PM
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Bigotry is born out of fear. So yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:23 PM
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Oh we know what we want. I'm glad it worked out for you. It is. It's not. There is a reason I chose my flair to be what it is. Assuming you are some type of authority who should be listened to 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:19 PM
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They aren't just ONS girls. That's the lifestyle TRP abvocates, so I'm assuming that you, being a RP man, are advocating said lifestyle with your hypothetical guy who has slept with hundreds of women. No it's because you are being obtuse. No I'm not, I'm just showing you how TRP is not the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 05:23 PM
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But people post about TRP working with LTRs as well. Right, but the type of relationship TRP promotes is not the type of relationship that I personally want. There are multiple experts on TRP, some who have experience fucking hundreds of women, others who have had great success in marriage. TRP works on a subset of women. Coincidently thats not the type of woman I want for an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 03:41 PM
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What if he has been with all different types of women? ONS women are not my type. Then what if he has been in a relationship for a long time, and is very happy? Then he hasn't been with many women. You wouldn't know unless you tried it. What if I did try and it didn't work? You see why this is futile? There definitely is, you are naive to think there isn't. No, there is "Hey, this worked for me, you can try it if you want but there is no guarantee that it'll work for you."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:01 AM
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You're not worth my downvote. So, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:56 AM
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Evolution claims to be the truth as apposed to religion. Evolution doesn't "claim" anything. It is backed up by a shit ton of research which makes it very plausible. Evolution and red pill theory are pretty similar theories if you think about it. Not even close. Plenty of blue sheeple following religion while believing in horoscopes and ghosts. There are plenty of people who believe in all kinds of shit all over the world and the members of TRP are no exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:55 AM
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However to respecify it, even from the dating advice position, if a man has fucked hundreds of women, and constantly had his pick, does that not qualify him? No because what if I don't like the women he goes after? Or what if I want LTR advice? Or what if his advice only works for him and doesn't work for me? When it comes to dating, there is no such thing as expertise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:51 AM
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If someone is an expert at something, and they give advice that they are confident about, why are they probably wrong? Are you assuming TRP is a place of expertise? I'm working from the dating advice position, not advice in general. Obviously if I have a medical concern, for example, I'm going to go to a doctor with an actual degree for advice than from my friend Jeff who took an anatomy class once in college. Is this what you tell yourself so you can feel like you are better than people who hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:41 AM
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I'd rather they did not. Good for you. Why do BPers require so much humility and not confidence? Because those who think they have all the answers generally don't. If it works for them, cool. That doesn't mean it'll work for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:28 AM
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What does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:23 AM
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I don't give a shit, but thanks for letting me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:22 AM
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Would you rather people say, "everything i'm about to tell you is a complete lie"?. I'd rather people tell me, "take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 05:18 AM
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I think people should be wary of advice given to them no matter who or where it comes from, especially when said abvice claims to be "the truth." Frankly, when it comes to dating, both genders give pretty shitty advice because both generally don't know what the fuck they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 04:51 AM
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But that's pretty much what you just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 04:01 AM
1

Well clearly I did. It's pretty spot on actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 04:00 AM
6

So the reason RP members want virgins is because they are afraid that they will sexually underperform? That's pretty sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 03:49 AM
1

Aww, did I hit a nerve?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 03:44 AM
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Feminism and Blue Pill are not synonymous. I don't share my ideologies with my family mostly because no one really gives a shit. Christmas is the only time we are together under 1 roof actually eating something so we don't waste it bickering about gender relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 01:46 AM
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Left-wingers generally like to think they are "tolerant" and that they have a "live and let live" attitude. Hell no. I'm only tolerant to those who don't purposely harm others. As for TRP, it's a delightful train wreck of entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 01:25 AM
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Let me ask you: if TRP hates women, why do they spend so much damn time and effort trying to succeed with them? It's hatred that is born out of fear. They think that if they bang as many women as they can that they will conquer said fear but it is apparent by their subreddit that it is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 01:08 AM
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Yay for broken up families and perpetual single-motherhood! I never said this was a good thing. There hasn't been a extreme increase in MRA's in the last 5 years nor are people always crying about the "gender war". I'm glad we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 01:03 AM
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You think I am a misogynist, I don't; There's actual evidence to the contrary. You claim to tell me you've never, among your female friends during 'girl talk' moments, referred to certain men as wallets? I'm a fucking man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 12:10 AM
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I've never once typed the sentence "I hate women." The next step is to demote her from plate into cumdumpster. Sure, but someone who uses "cumdumpster" as a label for women must not have a very high opinion of them. Just food for thought. If it talks like a duck and walks like a duck guess what it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 03:28 AM
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This is, of course, evidenced by the super low divorce rates of today, Divorce used to be a big no no. Now it's not. the constant "gender war" that has resulted by all of this. There is no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 03:06 AM
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I feel as if you hate men because you based on my exchanges with you, you've shown me that you think homemaking is a more physically demanding job than coal mining. Strawman. I never made such a claim. You've shown me that you don't care about the work men do, only the work that women do. Another strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 03:03 AM
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There is nothing in my comments that you can in anyway interpret as misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 12:42 AM
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Nothing in my comments even hint that I hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 10:31 PM
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The fact that he thinks I'm a woman hater because of being raised by feminists just shows how much he hates men. But it doesn't. He immediately jumps to the conclusion that men raised by feminists are women haters, just showcasing how he hates men. No he doesnt. It's clear from your comments in this sub that you are, in fact, a mysoginist. This whole backwards psychology thing isn't working for you. My edit is somewhat a joke, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised that BPers can't see that. What …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 06:29 PM
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Mom: the kindest most thoughtful person I know. She worked her ass off to provide for my sister and I and is just an amazing person. She is somewhat of a doormat in her relationship with my dad though. Sister: super determined and motivated to achieve her goals. She's quite an introvert and doesn't have many friends but is really smart. She's also somewhat of a pushover due to the fact that she never really "fit in" with the other kids. Dad: super hard working and practical. I mean, this dude ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:00 AM
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You sure got him with that elementary approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 06:48 AM
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Hence, I no longer care as much about sourcing claims. Then don't make claims anymore if you are unwilling to back them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 11:54 PM
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I'll do it if I feel like it'll actually make a difference, but with people like you, it won't, so I'm not going to waste my time. Protip: Don't make claims if you can't source them. It's been fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 11:27 PM
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I'll take that as a "no I don't have actual sources."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 11:22 PM
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Of course she does, but seeing as you restricted it to 3 things instead of listing every possible thing, I chose those 3 I didn't restrict anything. I just used those letters as an example, seeing as both can do all kinds of shit for the other. My work wasn't automated, and I don't care what you think. Machines haven't taken over every factory sector so I believe you. I stand by what I said. Then your position is a hypocritical one. nor is it mentally taxing. But laying down slabs of concrete is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 11:11 PM
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(the man will stay with her as she grows old and unattracitve) Right and she won't because.....? X: Sex Y: Love Z: Wildcard So she doesn't clean your house, wash your clothes, take care of your kids, cook you food, etc.? I've worked a minimum wage job in a factory before so, please, fuck off with your assumptions. Pray tell, what "backbreaking" labor did you have to endure in a factory? I'm wondering because everything is pretty much automated now. It couldn't be because this sentiment of not ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 10:56 PM
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Why? Why can't marriage be an exchange, where the man provides resources, and the woman provides her body? Because it's not true. Why would a man put in so much time and money just for sex? That doesn't make any sense. The man provides a, b, c while the woman provides x,y,z. It's an equal exchange. Some feel--and rightly so--that the work isn't difficult, because it's not backbreaking labor like construction, coal-mining, etc is, I'm going to stop you right here because I doubt any of you actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 10:45 PM
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some states have banned things that are more male-centric (or at least competitive), like dodgeball and tag. Well this makes me sad. Another example is that plenty of shows on TV have something like the Bumbling Dad Trope or any other manner of showing men in a negative light. Yeah, but then you look at crime shows and 9 out of 10 times, a strong masculine man will be the lead and 9 out of 10 times a woman will be the victim. I think it all depends on who it's marketed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 05:18 AM
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I am actually looking forward to this. Grabs popcorn
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 05:05 AM
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I think TRP romanticizes a past they were not a part of. When it comes to gender roles, people in Western society have become more fluid which has its ups and down. On the one hand, people can do whatever the fuck they want now; on the other, finding a role to fulfill has become more difficult because they are not really necessary. I'll tackle these on a point by point basis because I am really tired and my brain is too all over the place at the moment to form an eloquent essay: Relationships Ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 04:54 AM
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He's not naming issues. He's asking for opinions in order to start a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 04:18 AM
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Exactly, but /r/Drok007 seems to suggest it is about being feminized, which I simply do not see. I don't see it either. I see more adults that act like children than men that act like women (which I don't really see as a bad thing). Since TRP equates women with children I can sort of understand his confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 05:41 PM
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Maybe it's an US thing It's really not. It's not that men have become feminized, they've become infantilized (like another user had already pointed out).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 05:27 PM
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You're not. Get over it. With that attitude, you can say hello to your new friends called "sock" and "vasaline".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 10:57 PM
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Care to refresh me on my sidebar knowledge? Sure! Here you go. My favorite one is "Women, the most responsible teenager in the house." No bigotry there. Or are they mutually exclusive to you? You guys have shown time and time again that TRP and mysoginy go hand in hand, so yeah. What are you talking about??? TRP is about sexual strategy. It's members are trying to get laid as much as possible while simultaneaously hating the people they have sex with. Sex is a form of validation. Therefore no pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 04:49 AM
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They give him a lie detector test to see if his claim was real or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 12:49 AM
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Are you aware of Gene Simmons claim that he has fucked over 5000 women? Are you aware that humans commonly claim all kinds of shit to make themselves seem higher value than they actually are? There is also a well known OK Cupid study that shows that 20% of men get 80% of the messages or something close to those lines. This takes into account online dating only which is a huge limitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 12:31 AM
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It's been said a thousand times, just because we learn to take the pussy off the pedestal it does not equate to Blatant misogyny. Please consult your own sidebar before espousing bullshit. Like I said before own up to it. Also, pining for female validation nonstop is not taking the pussy off the pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 11:57 PM
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I think it's great you spin your disdain for TRP being "misogynistic, unrealistic, and unattractive" Ugh. This shit again. Why is it so hard for you guys to just own it? Seriously, man up. The KKK is at least up front about their bigotry. Besides for a bunch of dudes that are obsessed with masculinity and being so "anti-PC", you guys sure do seem to hamster yourselves into an oblivion whenever someone calls TRP mysoginistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:57 PM
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Damn, you beat me to it. I was coming in here to say this. Anyways, yeah, I completely agree. The 80/20 rule is unsubstantiated bs. MYTH BUSTED But you didn't blow anything up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 05:11 PM
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What constitutes the other 60%? What makes you so sure that all of them happened? Here is a paper that explains how that number was calculated. Because I rely on data and research when it comes to this subject, not feelings. So... you're assuming the acquitted are guilty? I'm not assuming anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:55 PM
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I give what I get. lol do you take everything you read on the internet to be this literal? It's cute, really. Do I offend your feeeelz? Yeah, unprovoked ad-hom is totally the way to go. Don't worry bro, I won't ask you what your TRP throwaway username is. Why do you want me in your little club so bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 02:57 AM
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Oh, cute, more BP name-calling. Are personal attacks sort of a language here? Should I go through your posting history here at PPD? Don't act like you're innocent. Besides, it's an honest observation, at least own up to it. It could be you're a closet RPiller who's trying to learn our ways? Please. Everything that TRP labels as "self-imporvement" are generic pieces of advice that have been around since gyms were fucking established. At least I can get laid without absolutely hating the person I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 02:46 AM
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We aren't going away. I never said otherwise. Bigotry is a part of life. We are carefully expanding our mod team currently to combat the whiny faggots who want to hang on to/espouse BP bullshit in our sub. That subreddit needs to be seriously cleaned up. Between the angry noobs who spew vile everywhere they go and users like IllimitableMan who do nothing but promote their retarded blog, you've got your work cut out for you. I wish you the best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 02:28 AM
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I'm not sure, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:08 PM
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TRP is destined to implode on itself. With an increase of newbies spouting all kinds of crazy shit, veteran RP members are beginning to somewhat abandon the subreddit (just ask around PPD). Not to mention that the "anger phase" is simply being nurtured by the RP mods allowing for more and more hate to spew and build. Someone is eventually going to blow, which will give RP enough bad press that the reddit Admins will have no choice but to shut it down. Meanwhile, the RP vets would have started th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:58 PM
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Whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:33 PM
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I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:05 PM
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By throwing around the 2%-number, you're implying that 98% of all rape accusations are factual, which is intellectually dishonest and, quite frankly, simply false. I'm not implying anything. The conviction rate for rape is low meaning the chances of actually going to jal over a false accusation are pretty low as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 03:05 PM
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I'm sure you have all the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 03:02 PM
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Men are presumed guilty by the public before they are ever tried, Aside from tumblr feminism, I disagree with you. the same people who cry about rape culture will simply say the rape did occur and the man being found innocent was an injustice by the system. I think you are mixing up false rape accusations with cases that are dismissed. This issue isn't very black and white and most cases fall into a "he said/she said" type of scenario. If an investigation leads to evidence that points to the con…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 04:07 AM
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IF you remember the UVA case, it was the most obvious fake story. The media will do anything and everything to exploit the fears of its consumers in order to make a quick buck. That's how it works. Taking Rape Culture and exploiting it is an excellent way to drown in cash. We are moving more and more to a believe the victim or else. Aside from tumblr feminism, I can't say I'd agree with you. There is still a huge social stigma that comes with being the victim of rape. In Universities students ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 03:41 AM
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Rape changes you as a person and healing is hard. Some people don't want to stuck around for the hard part so they leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:57 AM
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No. Rape is already hard to prosecute as well as not taken seriously by the authorities. The chances of a man going to jail for being falsely accused of rape are pretty small.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:56 AM
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From this Wikipedia entry: Applying IACP guidelines, a case was classified as a false report if there was evidence that a thorough investigation was pursued and that the investigation had yielded evidence that the reported sexual assault had in fact not occurred.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:46 AM
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Okay, let's get one thing straight: innocent people will always go to jail, that's how the justice system works. It's not perfect. Now only 2% of reported rapes turn out to be false. That is an incredibly small percentage especially when you consider that 60% of rapes go unreported. Let's delve into this further shall we? 1) 40% of rapes are reported. 2) Out of that 40, 10 actually lead to an arrest. 3) Out of that 10, only 8 get prosecuted. 4) Out of that 8, only 4 lead to a felony conviction. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:17 AM
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True. Let me clarify: condoms help prevent STIs, but are not 100% effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 08:18 PM
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Routine testing, of course, does not prevent STIs. If you are promiscuous, even a little bit, of course routine testing is important. But testing does not prevent STIs. It does not prevent STIs but it nips them in the bud if they just so happen to show up. Condoms prevent STIs which is why I mentioned them. Aren't there also plenty of STIs that cannot be detected by tests? I'm not quite sure. I know that some infections take a while to manifest so they sometimes don't show up in screenings (syph…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 07:11 PM
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Never contracted any. Condoms and routine testing are a wonderful thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 07:00 PM
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Nothing in that statement suggests the US military is inferior, the ADF has just done a better job integrating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 06:19 PM
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Where did he call the US military inferior?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 06:06 PM
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Right and they shouldn't be. Women are NOT required to die for their country, men ARE. Right and up until last year (I believe) women were not allowed in the fronlines of combat. 2 things are probably going to happen: 1) women are going to be required to sign up for the draft. 2) no one is going to be required to sign up for the draft seeing as it is barbaric and outdated. Baby steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:10 AM
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No and neither should men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 01:53 AM
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This was already established. You are either really daft or don't realize that you are going around in circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 01:39 AM
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You would be proven wrong in reality. No, because this is exactly what happens. I'm taking this as an admission that you realize men and women are not equal with equal consequences, regardless of whether or not you will say it directly. But it's not because that is exactly what happens. Your passivity at my insistence for a direct answer is what is truly telling, not your petty derailing attempts insinuating I would care enough to think hitting a down arrow on your comments will change who you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 10:20 PM
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She can still claim I provoked a fight and that she defended herself You have actual defensive wounds, she doesn't. It doesn't matter what she says because you are the one with the bruises, not her. Is this or is it not equality with equal consequences? If she hits you and you call the cops and she goes to jail, then yes it is equality with equal consequences. Pay attention, if I as a man, call the cops on an aggressive hostile woman, she isn't going to be honest about what happened, she's going…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 09:44 PM
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No you are missing the point. Again, I'm not. But that is what is to be discussed. And that's exactly what I've been saying. Fat girls are whining because they can't adapt and they are ugly, which is true (you have decided that discussing both scientific and social research which indicates that the cost of high cal food is lowering and healthy food is increasing is irrelevant because these women are whiney and can't adapt). This is an actual problem with actual data backing it up. Obesity is bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 07:54 PM
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So you're telling me it's better to just take the hit and not do anything in retaliation but call the cops and hope they take my side No, that's not what I'm saying. You can shove her off of you, or you can put your arms up in defense. Most cops will take your side but biases do exist. why do Feminists not rally to make it legal for men to defend themselves against female attackers without involving authorities? Because the authorities exist for a reason. There are laws in place for a reason. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 07:48 PM
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You can do all kinds of shit in the name of self defense. That being said, if you hit her back, seeing as men are physically stronger than women, her injuries will be more visible than yours. On the off-chance that you get an asshole cop, you're going to he the one going to jail not her. You can hit her back if you have witnesses that will vouche for you, but better safe than sorry. Why do I need to prove my innocence when I am the one being assaulted? Because the justice system isn't fool proof…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 05:15 PM
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You call 911 and the cops show up and take her to jail for assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 03:34 PM
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No, but he can introduce her to the reality that is jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 03:23 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 03:14 PM
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I'm not misrepresenting shit. This is my actual opinion on the subject. If you don't like what I'm saying, well that's your problem. The equivalent would be if you told me people in a nice neighbourhood were losing their homes to bank forclosures and I told you I didn't give a fuck because well-to-people are filth and won't be missed when the point of the conversation was an attempt to understand why people are losing their homes and had nothing to do with the quality of people living in them. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 03:12 PM
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It doesn't make the fat women any better, they're shit, but causes exist to explain the growing obesity rate. Right, actual verifiable causes that are actually backed up by studies and relevant data and not by a very Cartman-esque "screw you guys, I'm going home" bullshit attitude. This article is commenting on why there are more MGTOWs, not whether their views are correct or not. There are more MGTOWs because these men feel "disenfranchised" and think they have no incentive to continue to be pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 11:41 PM
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Yeah, it is a temper tantrum Good, I'm glad we agree. It is like when fat girls try and get me to accept them for their shitty life choices. I've yet to run into an obese woman screaming "ACCEPT ME!" but I believe you. So what is your position on the growing numbers of MGTOW? These men are not getting their way and feel like everything is out of their control so instead of adapting to their circumstances, they are leaving. Just, greater numbers of cry babies? Pretty much. Or, perhaps there is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 11:22 PM
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However, you are looking like a dipshit because you are not paying attention to the cause of MGTOW. You want to know why I'm not paying attention to their cause? Because it's retarded, because it can be summed up to a child throwing a temper tantrum because he is not getting his way. You have every right to exit society but don't get upset when no one cares. You honestly think most women are going to loose a wink of sleep because this small group of men are going their own way? Fuck no. To that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 11:07 PM
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If it works for them and they are both happy, great and cheers to a happy marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 06:55 PM
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That's a terrible excuse for making oneself look like an dipshit with 4th grade reading comprehension.... Please explain how I am making myself look like a dipshit. That being said, if you're going to be intentionally obtuse to deny the other side a "point", why are you even here? I'm not being intentionally obtuse, this is my honest opinion on the subject. I never denied you a point seeing as you never made one in the first place. If you have a point then fucking state it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 05:51 PM
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your huffery puffery bigoted shaming language I'm going to take it upon myself to give the definition of of the word shame seeing as you throw it around whenever you are criticized in order to dismiss your opponent: Shame (of a person, action, or situation) make (someone) feel ashamed. synonyms: humiliate, mortify, chagrin, embarrass, abash, chasten, humble, the pure blissful realization that you are free of the manipulations of the SJW minions of Satan and their unholy religion of Feminism, ame…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 05:43 PM
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I don't care. I have zero empathy for stupid people who chose to be stupid on their own accord. Don't want to play the game? Cool, see ya, no one is going to change the rules so some super special snowflakes get their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:19 PM
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If it reaches 10%, 20%, do you agree it could have major consequences for society, regardless of how your opinion of them? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:17 PM
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And yet you peruse TBP which does exactly that- it invokes an emotional response completely based on feels. You sir, are the definition of a hypocrite. No I actually go on TRP to see this shit for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:16 PM
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Men are not Sure we are. Women will simply never be attracted to unnassertive men. You understand that you can be assertive and a caretaker at the same time right? It's not one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:34 AM
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What I read from it is that there is a subset of men that are upset they are not getting their way and as such are exiting the dating market. This same subset of men thinks that others actually give a shit when, outside of the internet, no one cares. Instead of adapting to this new way of doing things, they are throwing a temper tantrum by blaming others and latching onto a victim mentality where they clump all men together as these creatures with no agency whatsoever. Survival of the fittest, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:33 AM
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The further we move from rigid gender roles, the more this will become the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:26 AM
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-cute face, light colored eyes -compatable sex drive -must be totally okay with organic and homemade food -not taller than me -must be a total dork/nerd like me -compatable sense of humor (very important) -down to earth -isn't afraid to call me out on my shit -chill attitude -smart, creative, and fun -loyal and compassionate -loves animals
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 01:18 AM
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That's what you read in those articles? That''s what you gleaned from them? Yes. I don't believe everything I read on the internet, especially articles that use "shock" value to dupe impressionable men and women into thinking that the world is shit in order to make a quick buck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 01:00 AM
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Yes I read the article and how the author seems to think the world is coming to end because....people have the right to do whatever the fuck they want. This is somehow a bad thing and it's also somehow women's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 11:50 PM
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Only gay men and old women will stand up for men against women because we are the only people over whom women have no power What on earth are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 10:47 PM
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I don't think Islam is as red pill as you think it is I have Islamic friends who have informed me as to the religion actually works. Premarital sex is prohibited, the man is the provider and can have more than 1 wife as long as he can financially support more than one household, and that the wife is in charge of the house as well as the finances. Doesn't sound like a red pill paradise to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 06:53 PM
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What a cop-out. Then your assumptions are completely worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 01:29 AM
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Personality Type: INTJ Pill: Blue
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 01:27 AM
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No it's not safe to assume that when actual data says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 01:18 AM
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Conservative studies show that about 8-15% of children aren't fathered by the man who thinks he's the biological father. Here is an article that sources actual data and states that paternity fraud occurs at a rate of around 1-5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 01:05 AM
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Fuck, do I have to add unhappy "because of loneliness"? Or could you perhaps just get that it is implied? Fuck, do I have to add that this issue is more complex than you think? Do you understand that this "loneliness" has several other factors outside of the dating market such as technology, no work-life balance, etc.? Honestly, how simplistic do you have to be to believe that the only reason everyone is feeling so lonely is because of the dating market and that this is somehow womens' fault? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 08:57 PM
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Oh right...the number of unhappy men and women is negligible. Oh right the number of unhappy men and women must be chalked up to the dating market and not the fact that we live in an overworked society. I am pretty sure one can grow up without having casual sex but I could be mistaken. I'm pretty sure that men have been doing this for many years with no problems and that you follow an ideology that advertises this very type of lifestyle. I would call you a hypocrite but I could be mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 08:35 PM
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How is the dating market a mess? Following AF/BB You mean growing up?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 08:05 PM
3

Women hurt 80,371% of men. How did they manage this exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 07:58 PM
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No, it's not. ASD is an actual disorder that exists and has tons of data and research to back it up. Early detection is the best thing for the child becuase it is a learning disability that can cause a lot of harm if not treated properly. You plastered women on here because your bias is so big that you can't even take time out of your day to discuss an actual disorder without bringing them up. You wanted a serious discussion but this is a fucking joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 07:10 PM
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I'm just saying. You seem to be pinning the blame on women. Just thought I'd add some more information.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 06:53 PM
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Why exactly are we showing greater concern for the social competence of literal zero year old infants up to the age of toddlers and holding them medically and psychologically more accountable for their actions and behaviors than most grown adult ass women? That's what I wanna know. Aaaaaaaaaannd we're done. So close, I actually had faith in you this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 06:50 PM
4

Research has shown that older fathers also increase the chances of having offspring with mental disorders and learning disabilities due to sperm mutations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 06:49 PM
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So far, no. I've had the few trolls here and there who go through my post history and downvote everything but nothing major.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 06:25 PM
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Tru dat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 04:57 PM
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If you are never made aware in your entire life of all the negative traits of female nature You mean human nature? Everything negative about women that you guys preach can easily apply to men. There are assholes in the world that come in all shapes and sizes. Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:36 PM
5

Ironic that you, of all people, sent me that imgur link.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:33 PM
4

I know BPers don't like science becuase science works against their world view Top kek. Most BPers provide actual sources to back up their claims unlike RPers who seem to think that anecdata is enough. If you think I will spend time with that hamstering on every case, just no. Thats what science oriented people do, they discuss things. The problem with TRP is that they read everything in studies except the conclusions. Limiting factors are important to take into account which is why most researc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:32 PM
1

Would you look down on a Red Piller who turned down a highly qualified woman for a job on the basis of scientific data showing that men usually perform that job better? Only if the man that applied was not as equally qualified. I'm not denying there are exceptions. Even if one sex is on average better at a job than the other, to assume that a particular applicant is better or worse because of their sex is sexist. Everyone has their biases. I have mine when it comes to work and job performance. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 04:25 AM
2

Why would a man enter an arrangement where there is a 7/10 chance his wife is gonna blow up the marriage because she's unhaaaaapppppyy? Uh, no. There's about a 5/10 chance that the marriage will end in divorce. There's a 7/10 chance that the wife will file the divorce papers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:53 AM
1

How is it gold exactly? That study clearly states that non-confrontational men are preferred for LTRs. None of this is ground-breaking or new. Women are more "fickle" when it comes to ONS than with LTRs (mind you, as are men). Not to mention that we don't live out in the African savanna anymore and that this study, although very insightful, does not account for nuance. These women only saw these men through videos. These are all limiting factors which should be taken into account (and are stated…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 02:47 AM
2

I don't. I just want to see if he can back up his shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:35 PM
2

I have. I knew him before when he was still physically a girl, we went to highschool together. Then I saw him again a few years later through a mutual friend of mine. At first I thought he was her brother or something, then my friend told me that he is Trans and I couldn't believe it. He transitioned really well and I never would have guessed that this man used to be a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 09:42 PM
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Becuase its based on empiricism and rational debate Please tell me you have something up your sleeve to prove this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 09:21 PM
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Kant's idea of "sexual objectification" essentially condemned all sexual desire as exploitative and degrading Kant even argued that masturbation was evil because if you masturbate, you "use yourself as a means to an end" and thus violate the categorical imperative Kant never married and died a virgin, so one can assuming that this influenced his writings on sex quite a bit. Mind you, I believe that everyone objectifies one another at some point and to some degree. I think the issue feminists hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:20 PM
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Also, it's just really arbitrary thing to get hung up about in the first place. Short of being a scientist yourself, there's no reason for why you should find evo-psych particularly wrong. It's been criticized by the scientific community time and time again for being complete shit. So until they stop coming to ridiculous conclusions with little data backing them i will continue to consider that entire field shit. TRP likes to blow it's own whistle about how they work with "facts" and how men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 04:40 PM
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1) The pseudoscience. Using evo-psych (which has been criticized again and again by the scientific community for coming to ridiculous conclusions with little data to actually back up said conclusions) as a crutch to support your anecdata is completely illogical. 2) The mysogyny. I respect women and consider them my equals. Assholes come in all shapes and sizes. It's the way the world works. Most women are not out to get you. Most women are not conniving little hyenas that will destroy you the se…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 07:49 AM
2

Agree to disagree. There, see how civil that was?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 07:31 AM
2

I nominate myself because why the hell not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:50 AM
2

Its lot easier for women, however, to be skinny, than it is for men to be jacked. I think neither is easy or hard. Women have mostly estrogen, which produces fat; men have mostly testosterone which helps a lot for not only burning fat but building muscle as well. In any case, I'm guessing you're not a big fan of the color red. Blue is your favorite color. I love the color red. I can't stand the bullshit over at TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:49 AM
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Also, can you see how you didn't make an attempt to acknowledge the material or refute anything about either one? I did refute it. I stated, pretty clearly, that I don't agree with you. You're upset that I'm not playing your game. Debates are clear and direct. You dismiss what you disagree with. I didn't dismiss it, I said I don't agree. I provide you with actual logical arguments to support my claims, and I'm also smug. I've yet to see a logical argument from you. The difference between us is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:31 AM
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Dude...you're FUCKIN' RED PILL. Ugh, I cannot fucking stress this enough: NOTHING OF WHAT I'M SAYING IS EXCLUSIVE TO TRP. THIS SHIT IS COMMON SENSE. I'm no longer angry at the entitled bitches. What makes them entitled? I've moved on. It doesn't look like you have. They need someone to blame, too, and its easier to blame someone else for their problems, then to blame themselves for being UN-sexy to women. It's misplaced anger used to cover their ego boo boos because they are too cowardly to own …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:27 AM
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Outside of feminism, objectification is an actual word. No, it's not used to shame male sexuality. Here let me add an edit for, consider this me throwing you a bone: Everyone objectifies one another at some point and to some degree. The attitude that sometimes follows it, is the problem. I think this is what feminists are trying to get at.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:13 AM
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Not everyone is gifted in the looks department and hating on them because of some petty jealousy is also counter productive. That's how life works. I'm not very gifted in the looks department either but I don't sit and wallow in my own misery about how unfair I have it. I hit the fucking gym, I focus on becoming a person with actual substance and women flock. Why? Because confidence is sexy. I've gotten rejected plenty, but why the fuck would I get angry at the women who rejected me? That's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:09 AM
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I've yet to see a logical argument from you so please enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:56 AM
1

No, they actually work for it, instead of bitching about it, and know they are not owed jack shit. Don't put words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:55 AM
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(of a person, action, or situation) make (someone) feel ashamed. "I tried to shame him into giving some away" synonyms: humiliate, mortify, chagrin, embarrass, abash, chasten, humble, You seem to throw it around whenever someone says something you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:52 AM
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Do you need a definition of the word shame?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:31 AM
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Yes, hello. Nice to meet you. AMA.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:19 AM
3

Aren't we allowed to be envious of the men who have women every night, and mad at the women for denying us that privilege? Being angry at things you can't change is counterproductive. You're not owed a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 04:52 AM
3

The government spends money on a lot of things. What specific things should be refromed? We're talking about men opting out of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 12:47 AM
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Massive reform that will never happen Reform of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 12:32 AM
2

What would be a solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 11:35 PM
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Exactly. They're all mostly after your money and probably consider you a novelty. I mean, it sounds like it'd be fun for a while, but at some point you'll end up feeling pretty empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 10:09 PM
3

Well, you argue like a Creationist, and, normally, people grow up by the time they are 30. 24.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 10:07 PM
2

Welp, that was all sorts of stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 09:17 PM
9

That's true, apparently he's had 3 heart attacks or so. He's only 33. Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 09:11 PM
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No thanks, that type of lifestyle catches up to you real fast. Not to mention being surrounded by people day in and day out sounds exhausting. I'm sure that type of lifestyle is totally appealing for a lot of men, but I'm not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 09:00 PM
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but tis not, it observations ring true of at least some women, but i doubt its all, or even most Completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:41 PM
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Your character.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:27 PM
5

One of my ex's expected me to fulfill said role too. Our relationship didn't last. I live in a pretty liberal area so this isn't the norm here. I think as society continues to shift, these expectations will erode away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:27 PM
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Nothing, it's just telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 06:58 PM
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First of all the education system sucks for everyone. The only thing they teach in schools is how to take tests. That's it and that sucks for both genders. Why? Because no one actually learns anything. Secondly, if you're upset that you can't be a provider anymore then take the role of a care taker. Adapt to your circumstances or else you will get left behind. That's how this works. Survival of the fittest. Society isn't as fucked as you think and if you're upset that you can't get your way, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 05:47 PM
4

Aren't you 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 05:08 PM
5

It's a shitty investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 05:05 PM
9

So, again, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 05:58 AM
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In other words, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 04:50 AM
2

So you do in fact discriminate based on gender, so long as the statistics support your biases. Eh, yeah. It all depends on the circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 04:49 AM
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I think this will clear it up, straight from GLO himself: I get validation from Red Pillers agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 04:31 AM
13

Do you have verifiable proof of this Gynocracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 04:07 AM
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What are we supposed to debate exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 03:57 AM
5

I'm sure she'll take the piercing off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 03:44 AM
2

Don't know. I have tattoos myself so my tastes are different. My current SO has tattoos as well and her past doesn't even come close to being labled promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 03:44 AM
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Burden of proof. You made a claim first, that's how this works. Either provide a citation or gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 03:12 AM
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You don't. Better luck next time. Edit: I thought you were replying to another one of my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 03:05 AM
2

A hypothetical you are hiring for a company, and the last two candidates are a man and a women. Do you think that you, knowing as you do, that women are less rational would affect your hiring choice? I do not believe this and would hire the woman over the man. Research has shown that group performance increases if more women are present, so based on this I would make my decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 03:04 AM
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You don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 02:16 AM
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So...are you going to back up why you think so, or are you just going to reject the idea and forget you actually need to prove your arguments to be right in a debate? Back up your shit first, then we'll talk. Because it's fairly obvious a great many men in society are totally utterly clueless about what attracts women. Fairly obvious to you. If this cluelessness is so prevalent like you say, then you should have no issue backing up your claims with a scientific study. Again, citation seriously n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 01:57 AM
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Do too No. Are there any benefits? We're unionized. Bet'cha think you totally got me there, dont'cha? Yes I do. So, it's rambling when I'm being logical and totally debunking the idea that objectification is a thing? If only you were being logical. Got anything to back that up? Yes. Well since you think you're an authority, explain to me like I'm five how mutual attraction works. Person A likes Person B. Person B likes Person A. BOOM. Mutual attraction. Why not just say both genders desire thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 12:15 AM
1

I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 09:53 PM
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TRP just tells the truth. They don't. I'm just a guy who likes sex with women and I'm not afraid to admit it. Welcome to the club. Is that so wrong? I never stated otherwise. It's impossible to view a woman as an object. Wait your backtracking here. First you say that you can objectify women and see them as people simultaneaously (which agree with) now you're saying that you can't objectify women in the first place. You are all over the place. If they weren't living breathing human beings with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 09:51 PM
2

so are we to assume that everyone's boundaries is a 10ft bubble? No. You're guilty of assuming that it is always unwelcome, unless, of course, they consent to this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 09:00 PM
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and if you really wanted to be more compelling, you could also claim to be affiliated with SRS as it is larger in subscribers, No. your numbers are dwarfed by TRP, which agrees that this is indeed a reality for more men than you're willing to give credence to at the very least. I won't because anecdata is worthless. If 95% of the men around you don't get laid very much, then stating that 95% of men in general don't get laid is illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 08:53 PM
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Then the word is entirely meaningless and should not be used as a weapon to shame anyone for finding others sexually desirable. Who is this boogeyman that goes around shaming people? So what attitude is the problem? Entitlement. So you agree objectification is really just sexual desire for another. Objectification is simply viewing someone as an object. It's not sex exclusive. So how did you two meet? Through mutual friends. How do you have sex ever if neither of you has ever felt entitled to ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 08:47 PM
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Bottom line: everyone objectifies each other in some way shape or form and to a certain degree. The problem is the attitude behind it and the lack of respect of boundaries. I objectify others sometimes and so does my SO. Hell, we gave a game that revolves around objectifying others. We'll be walking around the downtown area and when we see a good looking guy/girl we'll immediately ask each other if we would tap that. But we don't go up to said attractive person and step all over their boundaries…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 07:26 PM
4

Citation seriously needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 05:20 PM
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Men dont need women to approve of their opinions to get them to open their legs, If that were true, then there wouldn't be so much anger spewing out of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 03:46 PM
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Probably what was stopping 95% of all young men - an incredibly steep learning curve regarding sex! Most young men are sexually clueless and destitute and can barely get laid, by and large, You claimed most men are sexual clueless. I'm sorry that you were one of these men, but I wasn't and neither were my buddies. This is why anecdata is worthless. Can you source this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 03:36 PM
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I get all that shit done without stepping foot in the cesspit that is TRP. Don't be dishonest. If TRP was actually about all those things you mention then nobody would have an issue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 03:11 PM
1

Citation seriously needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 03:10 PM
5

Yes, I've been to clubs before and I've seen this behavior first hand. The reason I stay blue is simply because my goals/ideas/etc. don't align with TRP, not to mention that I enjoy where I am in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 01:26 AM
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More like I don't care to correct you. Sure. PPD could be a place to try to understand the other side, but apparently you think it's a place to fight us. 1) Purple Pill Debate, it's in the name. 2) Further up thread you were showcasing your snark skills to other BPers and now your preaching this whole "you could understand us if you just opened your mind" kumbaya BS. I'm not buying it. I'll give you props for picking your battles though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 01:06 AM
1

Apparently you're more interested in winning a futile argument than trying to understand TRP. If I misunderstand TRP, then by all means enlighten me. Keep deconstructing whatever you imagine us to be, we'll be out there enjoying life. Ad hominem is counter productive. This is a debate subreddit. If you can't refute arguments then don't post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 12:31 AM
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The best I can do is to motivate you to look for the truth yourself. Are you seriously implying that TRP is the truth? But for the men struggling with a lack of masculine role models in their lives, TRP serves a need. TRP serves a need for men who have already been jilted in the past by women and acts as a band aid. It's good in that it shapes men to fit a certain mold that will attract a subset of women. It's bad in that it is a cesspit of counterproductive crap, over generalizations, and "biot…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 12:07 AM
2

It's not a theory, it's an observation born out of practice. That's fine, but again it is not an established fact. Saying things such as: "go try it yourself and you'll see the same thing" will never get anyone anywhere. Experiences are incredibly subjective, which makes anecdata worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 11:00 PM
0

How is his comment a circle jerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 10:55 PM
1

If only the world worked in such a linear and simplistic way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:20 PM
2

The problem is, It isn't just a matter of pure reproductive organs. That's what OPS stance is all about. She/he is stating that men hit a reproductive wall like women. Holistically, you have to consider social status, finances, maturity, housing, and so on. That's all fine and dandy but completely irrelevent when it comes sperm production. Having cash isn't going to magically make a 50 year old man's sperm any better. None of that matters when a 25 year old woman has a kid with said 50 year old …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 07:00 PM
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I'm going to answer this because I love history even though I am not RP. No, men did not build society for women. Humans built civilization to increase their chances of survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 06:20 PM
2

The only thing you have provided for your view is anecdata and you are completely unable to see things from outside your own bias. You are being, for a lack of a better term, a solipsist. Don't like being asked for sources? Don't make stupid fucking claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 04:05 PM
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When people are young, they do foolish things. Then they grow up and settle down. Tis the circle of life. This isn't a bad thing. What was stopping him from having threesomes and fulfilling as many sexual fantasies as he possibly could when he was young?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 12:57 AM
2

This is quite a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 12:01 AM
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You're right, I don't understand this kind of disconnect. That said, perhaps you can explain things? Why is this mentality appropriate? Can you explain this perspective to me? I'm not the OP, but I think I understand what she is saying. People grow and change over time. As this happens, our likes, dislikes, and preferences change as well. Woman A might have been a total freak in the sheets back in college but is completely vanilla now that she is married. That's not a bad thing. Her likes change…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 10:35 PM
3

I think a pretty small percentage, mostly because traditional ideas are not popular in the west anymore nor are they the norm. From my experience, a lot of men (including my buddies) want an equal partner. This is, of course, my own personal opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 05:31 PM
6

Please tell me you are joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 02:39 AM
3

I don't know about other Blue Pillers, but I would cripple the guy for life. When it comes to violent crimes, touch my loved ones and you are fair game to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 10:26 PM
3

No, never. Breaking someone's trust like that would make me feel like such a piece of shit and I'd never forgive myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 07:21 PM
1

Okay. Let's see. I have a huge inability to talk about anything that bothers me so I end up bottling it up. The more I bottle it up the less I give a shit about anything. I end up putting on this mask, to trick the people around me that I am okay, when I'm really not. My current SO sees right through this shit and attempts to ask me what is bothering me but I end up pushing her away. In doing so, which I don't do purposely, I end up feeling guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 05:38 PM
2

AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:46 AM
1

Well TRP likes to generalize women, so I'm targeting said generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:45 AM
5

some girls like having their boundaries pushed Cool, I'm not talking about these girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:39 AM
3

And sleep, and work, and do hobbies, and hit the gym, and eat, and actually talk to one another. The list goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:35 AM
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I know. When my girl says no for whatever reason, it's not the end of the fucking world. Hell, I say no sometimes too. I'm not attached to her by the dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:32 AM
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It makes me wonder if red pillers have ever been in a relationship with mutual respect and acknowledgement of personal boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:22 AM
1

I don't talk about my feelings very much and as such end up becoming a pretty detached person. I've ended up hurting people I care about because of it and has caused plenty of problems in my past relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 08:52 PM
0

That's BS. Men literally invented science. No one was holding Galileo's hand, he just did it. Paging bad history.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 08:02 PM
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Also your definition of toxic masculinity is the definition TRP's definition of an alpha male. No shit Sherlock. That's the point of my list. Interest is not enough if you have no ability, skill, or predisposed for said thing. Interest is enough if you have an ambition to excel. Skills are learned and ability isn't necessarily innate. Your toxic femininity however is pretty much everything (with exception of 1,2,5) that TRP shows to be basic female behavior. Again, no shit. Not really toxic to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 12:37 AM
1

Obese women think they are beautiful and worth fucking, even though they are fat. I don't give a shit because I was never talking about obese women in the first place. The banana is rotten no matter what. No, the banana is rotten to you. You may not like tattooed women, but there are men who do. But that doesn't change the reality that obese women are fat or brown bananas are rotten. Please see the first part of this reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 12:30 AM
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So you think that people men, who maintain basic civilizational infrastructure, dying isn't a big deal. Gotcha. Don't put words in my mouth. You do know that M in STEM stands for medicine and last time I looked women where on par with men there. Not in other STEM fields. The lack of female role models in said fields can be a good explanation, as well as the fact that said fields are total boys clubs. Or are we going to stay on the whole women are oppressed angle? Yeah, I'll stick to reality, it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 12:27 AM
1

Citation seriously needed. No anecdata please.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 12:20 AM
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I never said otherwise. I'm not about to engage your strawman argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 12:19 AM
0

So why isn't there a massive campaign in society to fix those working condition? I don't know, take it up with the MRAs. Why do primarily men work those jobs? Why isn't there a gender quota and state subsidies to get more women into those jobs? Because said fields require physical strength. But somehow they didn't manage to break that Great Wall of STEM. You realize that men got a huge head start in STEM right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 09:49 PM
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What a strawman. What he sees as rotten bananas might not be rotten to someone else. It has nothing to do with seeing things the way the are. Preferences and tastes exist. He brought obese women in for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 09:35 PM
1

Let's what I originally said, shall we? From my experience it only works on the ignorant and inexperienced. I'm not discrediting their experiences. I'm sure it works.....on the ignorant and inexperienced. If women didn't like this shit, men wouldn't have to do it. It works on a subset of women, not on women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 03:25 AM
0

Oh the irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:49 PM
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Did I rustle some jimmies? 92% in comparison to how many men? You can't just pull a percentage from out of your ass without any fucking context. Also, men are the ones who are both WILLING and CAPABLE of taking those jobs with shitty conditions. What's your fucking point? You parrot this statistic as if it's some sort of proof that men are superior to women, when if anything, it proves that a safety reform is most definitely necessary in those sectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 07:27 PM
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90% of work place deaths are male. Over 90% of combat roles in the military are male. When polled only 8% of women even expressed an interest in combat roles in the military. But sure, keep telling yourself that. That's not even scratching the surface either. Men will always dominate STEM fields, art and literature as they have all throughout history. Oh god, not this shit again. 90% of workplace deaths are men because men tend to take up jobs with awful working conditions. 90% of combat roles a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 07:24 PM
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And I and many other RPers don't have to agree with every single thread on the sub. That's all fine and dandy, but, like I stated before threads like these are not rare. I just find it a little convenient that one minute you say that one thread doesn't make the entire sub and the next you say that you don't agree with every thread. It's just sort of a cop-out to be honest. Also you didn't answer my question. What do you think of this: When his girlfriend refused sex or protested, even if just in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 07:06 PM
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One individual thread does not make the entire sub. Ugh. Like it's been pointed out constantly, it's not just one thread. Awful shit gets up voted there regularly. It's a pattern. I don't think women are equal to men. Cool, if I had more time I'd walk you down memory lane of a similar discussion we had a while back on this very subject. What are your thoughts on this: When his girlfriend refused sex or protested, even if just initially, he should have stopped and seriously considered what he was…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 06:51 PM
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Deflective answer from someone who does not have an actual rebuttal. It's been fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 02:53 AM
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Breasts are secondary sex characteristics in the same way facial hair is for men. You can try to spin it and hamster all you want but breasts don't purposely manipulate other people. It's still a shitty analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 02:47 AM
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Mammary glands, necessary to feed offspring. Are we really discussing this right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 02:19 AM
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It's one thing telling a potential partner that you are not okay with their high count, that's fine, having preferences is okay; it's another thing going out of your way to tell someone who in no way affects you personally that their partner count is unattractive. It's also something completely different to value chastity in a partner when you are not chaste yourself. Preferences are okay. Being an asshole and a hypocrite are not okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 09:55 PM
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Boobs don't purposely manipulate other people, so it's still a shitty analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 09:49 PM
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High partner count is unfavorable in both genders in my opinion. I'll use my sister as an example. She has stated beforehand that she would not want a "man-whore" as the father of their children, which is understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 07:09 PM
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I can't speak for the world outside of reddit because slut-shaming is an anomaly where I live. The only time I've heard it is from past aquaintances with pretty conservative views when they, themselves, have racked up a pretty high count as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 06:59 PM
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Or maybe 85% of the members in TRP "misuse" these concepts and give the good TRP members a bad rep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 06:54 PM
3

So do you mean wide-spread on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 06:51 PM
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Do you have a source on how wide-spread it really is? Outside of TRP, I've never really encountered so much disdain for women with high partner counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 06:47 PM
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Yes, I would say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 06:39 PM
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You are insinuating the equivalents of teasing, confidence and the setting of boundaries and introduction of competition do not work on people. No, I'm insinuating that backhanded compliments, faking a persona, emotionally manipulating another person, and acting like a smug asshole doesn't work on everyone. Don't put words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 06:38 PM
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I wasn't part of the "Double Standards" thread so I don't know what you are talking about. That being I said I should emphasize "In my experience". I doubt that I share the same experiences with other BPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 06:28 PM
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From my experience it only works on the ignorant and inexperienced. People with pretty decent self esteem and sense of self worth don't fall for this kind of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 06:18 PM
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The only way to be truly equal is to be the same- and men and women are not same, regardless of whether it is because of biological or social reasons. Equal and sameness are not synonymous with one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 05:47 PM
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Actually no, he's pretty right. Just look at all the different cultures that exist across the globe. Humans are not as preditable as other animals because we have a way to override our intincts. It is how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 05:43 PM
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I'm glad you got out of that. It would have only escalated from there, controlling behavior always does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 10:01 PM
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What does this have anything to do with my reply? Where did obese women come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 08:47 PM
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Way to put words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 08:46 PM
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Many men dont want a tatooed pierced woman to be the mother of their children. Citation? This is actually a very common sentiment among men RP men. FTFY. Im just not the kind of person who is interested in brown bananas. They're brown bananas to you, but to other men they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 06:44 PM
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I honestly think it's a control thing. It's not the apearance that makes them angry, it's that they had no say in choosing said appearance. It's an idealogy that revolves around the notion that women are fickle creatures that need to be "guided" by men, so their reaction is not too surprising. If I believed in said notion I too would be upset when women exercised their agency to do whatever they want with themselves without taking me into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 05:44 PM
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You feeling better now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 04:21 AM
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Your troll attemps are really amusing. Come back to me when you can form an actual argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 03:21 AM
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What I meant is that the ideaology is built around continuing to pedestalize women. Without women, the ideology would seize to exist. No matter how many awful words are used to describe them, women continue to be the central focus of TRP. They continue to be "glorified".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 01:15 AM
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Again, what the hell are you going on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 01:07 AM
2

Again that can be debatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 06:46 PM
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Not as important as either but certainly an orgasm is much more anatomically important for men than women. Eh, this is debatable seeing as orgasms are pretty much necessary for a woman to bond with a partner as well as to better his chances of fertilizing her. I think this is a debate for another day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 06:30 PM
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I know I am, thank you for admitting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 06:02 PM
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In my opinion the "supplicating beta" and the "TRP alpha" are two sides of the same coin. One puts women on the pedestal while the other puts pussy on the pedestal. The idealogy itself revolves around women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 06:01 PM
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You are literally getting wound up over nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 05:53 PM
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What are you going on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 05:48 PM
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Your inability to form a coherent argument without getting upset speaks volumes. Thanks for the laugh, see you around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 05:47 PM
1

Ad hominem eh? Your entire point is "nuh uh, you're wrong! You don't know what you are talking because I said so." I presented sources that back up my claims, which you have dismissed and you are now throwing a temper tantrum because I'm not playing your idiotic game anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 04:07 AM
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I think the issue comes from the idea that sex is a need for men like food and water when it clearly isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 04:01 AM
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The misandry is evinced by the way that you take traits that belong to a disorder which is not related to gender in any way The disorders are more prevalent in men than in women. Like I stated earlier, I'm not citing my sources again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 03:57 AM
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Define toxic masculinity and femininity. Preferably from out side of the feminist perspective. This is the OP which I'm guessing you didn't even read. Of course I'm going to pull this out of my own ass. The OP asked for subjective fucking answers. Research to back what up?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 03:54 AM
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This is so wrong. Unless you are some sort of expert on the manner, I don't care. The OP asked for personal definitions. Number 7. Please read my post entirely before replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 03:51 AM
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I'm not citing my sources again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 03:48 AM
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The occurance of both disorders is pretty small but within the data that has been obtained through research, it is safe to say that they are more prevalent in men than in women. I wish I knew what generalizations you are talking about. I'm not about to debate concrete facts with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 09:07 PM
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What misandry? That antisocial personality disorder is more prevalent in men than in women? It's a statistical fact no matter how small you consider it to be. Your bias is clouding your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 09:03 PM
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Deriving self worth as a man from how many women you can have sex with is toxic and you just illustrated my point with your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 08:41 PM
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Hmm I actually agree with you. I concede my point then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 08:39 PM
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Thank you bot :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 08:14 PM
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If you're incel, you're not much of a man, now are you? You just illustrated my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 08:12 PM
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First of all, that's true but there is still plenty of research going into both disorders. Second, this article backs up what I said about antisocial personality disorder being more prevalent in men as well as this one stating that narcissistic personality disorder is more prevalent in men as well. Third, I couldn't care less what you think of me. I know what I am talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 08:11 PM
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They choose to be leaders AND feminine. Like I said before, femininity is not viable in today's society. Not to mention that it is incredibly undervalued and unrewarding. The feminine role and leadership role are completely contradictory. You can't be decisive and complacent, as well as demure and assertive. This is why I think it is total crap (along with masculinity but that's for another time).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 07:43 PM
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More men than women are diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder as well as narcissistic personality disorder so, no, I think my description was pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 07:26 PM
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Why follow a leader when you can be one yourself? Traditional femininity is an outdated concept that comes with very little reward as well as the label of secondary character. I don't know about you, but almost every woman I've ever interacted with would rather be Wonderwoman than Lois Lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 07:08 PM
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Toxic masculinity: 1) narcissism 2) inability to compromise 3) an impulsive need to use violence as a way to resolve conflicts 4) unwillingness to work with others 5) controlling and agressive behavior 6) self worth derived directly from how many women you can bed 7) the idea that the world should bend to your will for simply existing 8) lashing out during emotional state 9) lack of empathy for others 10) excessive pride Toxic femininity: 1) constant helplessness 2) doormat like behavior 3) cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 06:01 PM
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Oh for fucks sake no they are not. I'm not dancing around anything. You know good and well that anti slut shaming rhetoric is why women cheat and feel no problem with it at all. No, this is just your bitter assumption. You know good and well that LOL NICE GUYTM is why a woman feels content taking advantage of a man Again more nonsense. No I don't know. Want to know why? Because I don't surround myself with assholes. You got burned pretty bad and you're angry, completely understandable. Like I st…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 03:26 AM
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Nonsense. There is nothing inherently red pill about anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 03:14 AM
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Why do you endorse this behavior, I've yet to hear a single BPer endorse such a thing. Strawman. since your advice is basically "wait to be selected" Another strawman. I'm starting to think that you might be a troll, but what the hell I'll bite: You seem to attract the same type of woman, time and time again. Introspection is a great place to start if you want to understand why. Sitting around and waiting isn't going to get you anywhere. Hit the gym, get hobbies, talk to women, and, most importa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 12:05 AM
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So you think red pill is about making success with women your primary end goal? Yes. If getting women is the goal of red pill, then red pill still pedestalizes women I know. Why is being dangerous not red pill? Dark triad involves being dangerous There's a difference between emulating psychopathic tendencies and actually being one. One poses an actual threat to society while the other does not. Also, there is a lot of talk on red pill about sex/relationships being governed by transactional dynam…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 09:05 PM
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you must also acknowledge that you consider an entire group of people (teens, youth) as an insulting and an unfavourable state of being. Of course. But you don't stay a teenager forever. It's a transient state. Besides, who the hell enjoyed their teen years? You can't dance around the fact that you don't view them as equal to an adult I never stated otherwise. We conclude that Blue pills attitude toward teens is not unlike Red pills attitude toward women. This is a false equivalency. You are aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 07:21 PM
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I saw the film over the weekend and did not like the storyline that much. It had a slow start in my opinion. As for the main character, I have to give mad props to Jake Gylenhal for doing an amazing job playing a psychopath. I don't think Lewis Boom is Red Pill though because his end goal isn't to be successful with women. Not to mention that he is a legitimately dangerous guy. Edit: I concede my point. Lewis Bloom is RedPill when it comes it comes to Dark Triad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 07:08 PM
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Your reluctance to concede in your own double standards is irrelevant and not unexpected. What double standard are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 06:30 PM
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Oh, your point was incredibly easy to understand. In fact, your argument is nothing more than a cheap way to pin the blame on BP for considering "teenager" an insult. Again, your entire premise is built on deliberately missing the point and being purposely obtuse. Better luck next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 03:48 PM
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Grow up :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 03:42 PM
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So therefore teenagers are not worthy of the same regard as you would to an adult, male or female. Are we really having this discussion? Let's just say that you don't ask a teenager for life advice. Why? Because they are generally impulsive and short-sighted. And there is nothing wrong with that as long as you are an actual teenager. Therefore you see teenagers as less than mature and come to the eventual conclusion that being a teenager is something to be ashamed of, because it is after all an …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 02:28 AM
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Doctor Nerdlove is a good place to start. Art of Manliness is also pretty decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 01:50 AM
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I tend to think of manipulation as a conscious or even unconscious use of covert actions to try to get what you want from a situation. Do you disagree with that definition, or think it is inherently wrong, morally speaking? This is why I worded my sentence the way that I did: Besides, there are plenty of places on the Internet that promote ways to achieve a better love life without consciously manipulating or shitting on the opposite sex. The very definition of the word has a negative connotatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 01:45 AM
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And I think more of the people in that position are similar to me (issues with Aspergers/Culture Shock/Anxiety/Depression/Abuse/etc) than manipulative creeps. It's been my experience that it's the other way around. Besides, there are plenty of places on the Internet that promote ways to achieve a better love life without consciously manipulating or shitting on the opposite sex. I think the sheer intractability of the feminist position indicates an opinion not entirely formed on rational grounds.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 12:52 AM
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Women complain that pickup is about manipulating people and trying to cheat your way into getting a woman's skirt off. It's not just women and it's a decent complaint. PUAs get a bad rep because they use tactics to consciously manipulate people. I'm thinking that they hate us because subconsciously, they realize that we are "betas," and they don't want to risk the chance that they may end up mating with an "alpha" that is actually a "beta" in disguise. Yeah, no. I'm pretty sure it's the manipula…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 12:15 AM
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nowhere can I conclude that they are developmentally stunted. Because it's not true. I want to challenge the idea that being teenage levelled in maturity is just not as bad as it is perceived. It is bad when you claim that half of the human population is "teenage leveled" in maturity because, again, teenagers are developmentally stunted. It is insulting, because it is meant to be insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 07:23 PM
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You've built your entire argument on purposely missing the point. TBP has no issues with teenagers themselves. There is no disdain for them but there is an acceptance of the fact that teenagers have not fully matured. By calling half of the human population "the most responsible teenager in the house" you are claiming that adult women are developmentally stunted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 06:01 PM
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No one likes a troll either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 09:29 PM
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OP is telling you that he gives everyone the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise and you try to shoehorn him in order to fit your own bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 02:37 PM
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By that logic, Isaac Newton should not have been given credit for his discoveries because Johannes Kepler developed the Laws of Planetary Motion before Isaac could develop his own laws of motion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 04:23 AM
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Blue Definitely applies. Yes. Genuine charm though. No, that's manipulation. Decisively? Yes. Impulsively? No. I'm fairly assertive but far from agressive. Eh, I stutter sometimes. I'm a great communicator in my head though. Does not apply at all. Controlling situations? Depends heavily on the context. Controlling people? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 11:05 PM
1

You again? Do I need to get the mods involved like last time?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 02:41 PM
3

You guys take things way too personally :/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 03:41 AM
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Also, do you ever not circlejerk? :P Oh gawd get over it :P
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 01:52 AM
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Huh, I completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 12:11 AM
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When I first heard it, I thought it was pretty catchy. Now, it's an overplayed mess. As far as the song meaning goes: it's more about not giving a shit what other people think of you. Do whatever makes you happy and don't let anyone's opinion negatively impact who you are. The song can be applied to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 07:46 PM
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Seeing as you are not able to form any type of coherent argument and continue to give me childish replies I'm going to go ahead mark you as a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 03:40 PM
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Why should we cradle the feelings of this small subset of men who like to annoy others for the fun of it while ignoring those of the women who feel threatened?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 04:36 AM
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Funny, because I accused one member of circle jerking once, and here your are talking as if I go around accusing everyone of circlejerking. Not only is this very petty, it is also incredibly inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 01:56 AM
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I accused one member of circlejerking and you decided to not only get unreasonably upset but also, for a lack of a better term, white knight.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 01:54 AM
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Hugs are for betas, brah. Do you even lift?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 01:20 AM
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and if they persist aggressively, the authorities should be involved. You said we don't have the capacity to keep everyone's feels from being hurt, so why should we cradle the feelings of this small subset of men who like to annoy others for the fun of it while ignoring those of the women who feel threatened?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 01:07 AM
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We don't have the Capacity to keep everyone's feels from being hurt. You understand. :/ Exactly! So the men who catcall should be told to can it and if they persist aggressively, the authorities should be involved. Like you said, we don't have the capacity to keep everyone's feels from being hurt, and if telling a subset of men to keep whatever thoughts they have in their head for the sake of a little bit of peace on a woman's way to work, then so be it. It's a win win really.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 12:26 AM
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I too would like to see this question answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 12:13 AM
1

but we have noticed that dark-triad types tend to have certain behaviors that to appeal to women. Here's my issue. A subset of women are attracted to dark triad traits. TRP is guilty of using this small subset to generalize the female population in the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 11:42 PM
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Oh please, don't act like you're some sort of saint. None of you are here to compromise, RPers are some of the most purposefully obtuse people I've ever encountered online. Most of you are not even interested in "fair discourse," you're just here to try to shit on the other side. This isn't TRP. If you can't stand TBP users, then go back to TRP where no one will criticize you. Either that or take whatever issues you have with TBP up with the mods, but being petty isn't going to make anyone take …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 09:14 PM
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A big man hitting on a physically weaker woman should not spell intimidation and fear But it does. That's paranoia on the woman's part It's her trying to stay safe while she does something as simple as walking down the street. Ask them how many times the men were persistent Those men should understand that their entitled attitudes are not welcome the second their advances are ignored. It's called respect. dudes who were just taking a shot trying to get with a woman they found attractive. There i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 09:09 PM
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What I'm saying is that being hit on by women I'm not attracted to doesn't bother me in the least. I don't feel objectified just because people I'm not attracted to wanna suck my cock. That's great, good for you. Not everyone feels the way you do not to mention that being hit on by someone who is physically weaker than you is not as threatening as being hit on by someone who could potentially overpower you. I'm polite, take the compliments with dignity, and keep on going without thinking I'm bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 06:33 PM
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M_rafay simply said this because he is upset that I criticized another user in another thread. He is petty. Go ahead and save it if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 06:13 PM
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They don't call it the wall. They call it, "where have all the good men gone." I'm pretty sure women who bitch about that are the minority. It doesn't mean that you will never find a man again, it means that your SMV drops significantly. A woman's SMV is directly tied with her looks, and I have personally seen incredibly attractive 40 year old women. I could just be misunderstanding the concept entirely and will concede my point. To me, as in my personal preferences, the wall does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 06:11 PM
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It's going to grow and grow until it plateaus. I predict once it hits that point, it'll decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 05:59 PM
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It's all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 05:56 PM
1

But it doesn't directly effect women and it does matter to them! What are you talking about? Most women have no clue what "the wall" is. Most women who have hit said wall still find men that are interested in them. And I'm telling you that you are wrong. How am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 05:52 PM
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You may find post-wall women way more attractive than pre-wall women, but that doesn't change society's views on them. I don't give a shit about society's views on women. That's why I put the words I think in front of my statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 05:45 PM
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K.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 05:35 PM
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Except that I never invalidated his experience. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 05:34 PM
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Great comeback my friend, very edgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 04:42 PM
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Right, you don't like what I say because I'm right so you mark me as a troll. Damn, thanks for the laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 04:41 PM
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Really? You're going with the "I know you are but what am I" approach? Good Grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 01:51 PM
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Okay, if I don't have the same preferences for women that you do then I'm delusional. Gotcha. Anything else you'd like to add?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 01:49 PM
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Out in the street?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 01:48 PM
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Wow, you sure got me with that elementary reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 01:47 PM
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I'm a man. Nice try trying to patronize me bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 01:46 PM
6

Assaulting another human being on the street is still assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 03:02 AM
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If they get their cock out and pin another human being against a wall in an aggressive and violent manner out in a public space such as a street corner, that is still sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 03:00 AM
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Tell me, do you crane your neck to look at 45 year old women like you do 18 year old women? I've seen my fair share of attractive 45 year olds, I don't know what this has to do with anything seeing as I am not a cat caller. Besides, I consider 18 year olds to be children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 12:44 AM
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I am 24 and am a man. My mother gets harassed on the street quite often.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 12:38 AM
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You used your single experience of getting harassed by two women (who were probably weaker than you) in order to invalidate the experiences of many many many women who have every right to feel threatened seeing as their harassers are much stronger than them physically. Way to go, you must feel so proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 12:36 AM
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I think the wall is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 12:30 AM
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Again, so because you don't get harassed no other woman your age gets harassed as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 11:41 PM
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Congrats. What does that have to do with anything? You don't get harassed therefore no woman your age gets harassed?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 11:34 PM
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Wow, you sure showed me with that strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 11:33 PM
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Your replies are generally snarky one liners and hardly ever allow for conversation. Every woman will wake up invisible one day, some earlier some later, her too Except that women get harassed even when they are passed this imaginary "wall". Methinks you've spent too much time on the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 11:29 PM
14

Do you ever not circlejerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 11:21 PM
6

In a public space such as on the street where most harassment happens? Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 10:44 PM
4

Then they'd go to jail for sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 08:50 PM
14

I saw a video of a woman doing just that and it turns out that the men she had been harassing had felt really disrespected by it. I'm under the belief that two wrongs don't make a right though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 08:49 PM
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I never said it was normal or healthy. I personally believe it is misguided and childish. But their is a difference between being a psychopath and pretending to be one. One is an actual medical condition, the other is a way to cope with failures instead of getting over them. They can play pretend all they want though, it's their choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 08:06 PM
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No, they are not psychopaths. They simply try to emulate behaviors that would be deemed psychopathic in order to get laid. Dark Triad and such nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 07:52 PM
1

I see women twice my weight get away with being banshees to everyone. The only relief is when they turn on each other. Then you should stop hanging out with assholes. What can I say? I am just a really tolerant guy, I guess. Nothing screams tolerance like shitting on half of the human population.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 01:53 PM
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Every time I try to make you face the core of what you're saying in a decisive way, you blame me of coping out. What? I only claimed you were copping out once, which you continued to ignore making me repeat myself. Don't put words in my mouth. Giving me an opposite opinion on a topic without explanation is not "addressing" anything. I gave you an explanation which you chose to ignore and waved it off entirely, as many RPers do. I should have thrown "pussy pass" in the list, but I didn't think I …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 03:17 AM
1

Mmm, you didn't really address what I said, you simply gave your opinion. I did actually, you are just being purposefully being obtuse, which is incredibly typical btw. They wouldn't have to if not for a BP-minded SJWs. You're right, men should be allowed to rape and mentally abuse women whenever they want. Those damn feminazis are "shaming" male sexuality. The horror. Such as? Let's start with the brain shall we? RP members are notorious for thinking men have a higher intelligence due to having…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 01:41 AM
1

You call it emotional manipulation, I insist on calling it dominance. You can spin it and put pretty words around it all you want. It doesn't change the fact that it's flat out emotional manipulation. TRP is accused of utilizes the facts of attraction to achieve this dominance. No, it is accused of promoting a toxic ideology that hurts both men and women. For men, following an ideology where they hate a group while simultaneously seeking constant validation from said group is poisonous. For wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 02:03 AM
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I don't think women give good advice when it comes to ONS, but give decent advice when it comes to LTRs. Vice versa. Either way, both genders give shitty advice, so be wary of who you are getting tips from, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 10:33 PM
1

No. Emotionally manipulating women, thinking they are inferior without an actual explanation, and attributing every negative thing about humans to those that have vaginas simply to patch up a crippling inferiority complex is mysogynistic. Nice cop-out though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 04:24 PM
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I didn't call you a mysogynist. I said TRP is mysogynistic at its core.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 02:48 AM
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Never called you names. I simply said to own your shit. It's liberating. Don't get your panties in a twist. I'm not going to sugarcoat it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 02:36 AM
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Not willing is more like it. This has been done so many times. TRP is mysogynistic at its core and the whole "its amoral" battle cry is used by guys who don't want to admit they are mysogynists. Own your shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 02:30 AM
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